From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Aug 3 17:49:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA00838 for mobile-outgoing; Sun, 3 Aug 1997 17:49:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sed.cs.fsu.edu (sed.cs.fsu.edu [128.186.121.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA00830 for ; Sun, 3 Aug 1997 17:48:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uh@localhost) by sed.cs.fsu.edu (8.8.5/8.7.3) id UAA24311 for mobile@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 3 Aug 1997 20:48:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Gang-Ryung Uh Message-Id: <199708040048.UAA24311@sed.cs.fsu.edu> Subject: xircom credit card FAX/MODEM To: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 20:48:55 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I can successfully install FreeBSD 2.2.2 (XFree86 3.2) with the recent PAO packages to the NEC versa Window NT laptop. FreeBSD seems to run very stable for APM and mouse (touchpad). Woops!! Unfortunately, I realized that I have a Xircom creditcard modem 28.8. When I run window NT with the modem in PCMCIA slot 0, the system reports that it detects the modem at slot 0 card Creditcard Modem 28.8Kbps IRQ 3 PORT 0x2e8 DOS Device COM4 and I can set up PPP and can run various TCP/IP applications. When I run FreeBSD 2.2.2 system with the modem in slot 0, (I copied pccard.conf.sample to pccard.conf without any modification) syslog reports the following message from pccardd and the whole system is frozen: Card inserted slot 0 Card inserted slot 0 pccardd[32]: Card "Xircom"("CreditCard Modem 28.8") has function ID 2 sio0: Warning: irq_pending error. sio2: type 16550A Would you explain to me what is the above error message means and how to make this modem configured in a generic manner such as window NT? I appreciate any advice (including curses) in advance. Regards, Gang-Ryung Uh ps. When I insert the card into slot 1, pccardd can not detect that action. From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Aug 3 20:53:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA10031 for mobile-outgoing; Sun, 3 Aug 1997 20:53:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA10020 for ; Sun, 3 Aug 1997 20:53:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from msmith@localhost) by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.8.5/8.7.3) id NAA17713; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 13:22:58 +0930 (CST) From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199708040352.NAA17713@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: xircom credit card FAX/MODEM In-Reply-To: <199708040048.UAA24311@sed.cs.fsu.edu> from Gang-Ryung Uh at "Aug 3, 97 08:48:55 pm" To: uh@NU.CS.FSU.EDU (Gang-Ryung Uh) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 13:22:58 +0930 (CST) Cc: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Gang-Ryung Uh stands accused of saying: > syslog reports the following message from pccardd and the > whole system is frozen: > > Card inserted slot 0 > Card inserted slot 0 > pccardd[32]: Card "Xircom"("CreditCard Modem 28.8") has > function ID 2 > > sio0: Warning: irq_pending error. > sio2: type 16550A > > Would you explain to me what is the above error message means > and how to make this modem configured in a generic manner such as > window NT? The above error indicates that the card is not configured for the right interrupt. I don't know why the system has frozen; there are a couple of possible reasons for that; - there might be a bug in the kernel that is tickled by your config - the card might have generated another (wrong) interrupt and the system has not handled it well. However, you shouldn't need the PAO patches at all for your setup. -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control. (ph) +61-8-8267-3493 [[ ]] Unix hardware collector. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Aug 3 21:15:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA11385 for mobile-outgoing; Sun, 3 Aug 1997 21:15:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sag.space.lockheed.com (sag.space.lockheed.com [192.68.162.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA11369 for ; Sun, 3 Aug 1997 21:15:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost by sag.space.lockheed.com; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/21Nov95-0423PM) id AA23698; Sun, 3 Aug 1997 21:15:18 -0700 Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 21:15:18 -0700 (PDT) From: "Brian N. Handy" To: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Gang-Ryung Uh Subject: Re: xircom credit card FAX/MODEM In-Reply-To: <199708040352.NAA17713@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Message-Id: X-Files: The truth is out there Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Gang-Ryung Uh stands accused of saying: >> syslog reports the following message from pccardd and the >> whole system is frozen: >> >> Card inserted slot 0 >> Card inserted slot 0 >> pccardd[32]: Card "Xircom"("CreditCard Modem 28.8") has >> function ID 2 >> >> sio0: Warning: irq_pending error. >> sio2: type 16550A One of the guys at work has a Xircom card, maybe this Tuesday if it helps I can snag it and play around a bit and see what I come up with. Brian From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Aug 4 07:38:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA03366 for mobile-outgoing; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 07:38:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from prozac.neuron.net (prozac.neuron.net [165.254.1.213]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA03359 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 07:38:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from amir@localhost) by prozac.neuron.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) id KAA04822; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 10:40:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19970804104027.62378@neuron.net> Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 10:40:27 -0400 From: "Amir Y. Rosenblatt" To: mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Panasonic CF-62 and PD drives? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.76 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Has anyone tried running FreeBSD on the Panasonic CF-62 or CF-25 and does it recognize the "PD" drive in the CF-62? Or, more generally, does freebsd work with panasonic's PD drives at all? -Amir -- / \ E Pluribus Unix. | Amir Y. Rosenblatt /<@>\ | amir@neuron.net / \ FNORD | http://www.neuron.net/~amir _/_______\____________________________________|____________________________ From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Aug 4 09:17:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA08302 for mobile-outgoing; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 09:17:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fgate.flevel.co.uk (root@fgate.flevel.co.uk [194.6.101.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA08292 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 09:17:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from graham@localhost) by fgate.flevel.co.uk (8.8.5/8.6.9) id RAA15627; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 17:16:26 +0100 (BST) From: Graham Breach Message-Id: <199708041616.RAA15627@fgate.flevel.co.uk> Subject: Re: Panasonic CF-62 and PD drives? In-Reply-To: <19970804104027.62378@neuron.net> from "Amir Y. Rosenblatt" at "Aug 4, 97 10:40:27 am" To: amir@neuron.net (Amir Y. Rosenblatt) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 17:16:26 +0100 (BST) Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Has anyone tried running FreeBSD on the Panasonic CF-62 or CF-25 and does > it recognize the "PD" drive in the CF-62? Or, more generally, does > freebsd work with panasonic's PD drives at all? > > -Amir I don't know about the CF-62 or CF-25 drives specifically, but we have a PD drive here working fine (using an old snap of 3.0-CURRENT). relevant dmesg output: (ahc0:2:0): "MATSHITA PD-1 LF-1000 A108" type 7 removable SCSI 2 od0(ahc0:2:0): Optical od not present (ahc0:2:1): "MATSHITA PD-1 LF-1000 A108" type 5 removable SCSI 2 cd0(ahc0:2:1): CD-ROM cd0(ahc0:2:1): NOT READY asc:3a,0 Medium not present -- /* Graham Breach * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * http://www.cybercities.net/fxhtml - FXHTML web building tool * */ From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Aug 5 06:10:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA12066 for mobile-outgoing; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 06:10:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.cep.yale.edu (www.cep.yale.edu [130.132.125.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA12061 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 06:10:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (adept@localhost) by www.cep.yale.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA17344 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 09:09:55 -0400 Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 09:09:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Adept To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Libretto 50 and FSD Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Good Day-- I've had my Thinkpad 701C running with FreeBSD 2.2.2 for quite a while now and love it, but I'm debating whther or not I want to upgrade to a Libretto50 (great toy to debug networks, eh?) Does anyone have any gotcha's for the Libretto or even war stories? I know that Hosokawa-san has done the PAO work on a Libretto, but is the Libretto available in Japan the same one that is available in the US?> Thanks! Ben. ____ Ben Samman.................................................ben@edelweb.fr Paris, France Illudium Q36 Explosive Space Modulator From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Aug 5 09:58:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA23201 for mobile-outgoing; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 09:58:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA23189 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 09:58:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA04141; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 10:58:09 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 10:58:09 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199708051658.KAA04141@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Adept Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Libretto 50 and FSD In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.29 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > and love it, but I'm debating whther or not I want to upgrade to a > Libretto50 (great toy to debug networks, eh?) > > Does anyone have any gotcha's for the Libretto or even war stories? I > know that Hosokawa-san has done the PAO work on a Libretto, but is the > Libretto available in Japan the same one that is available in the US?> Is the Libretto 50 now available in the US? We have 2 of them, but we ended up buying them from a company that re-packages them from the Japanese market. (In any case, I don't have any experience running FreeBSD on them, and although they are pretty sexy, the keyboard is almost completely useless.) Nate From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Aug 5 10:36:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA25068 for mobile-outgoing; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 10:36:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from osprey.grizzly.com (med.sc.scruznet.com [165.227.115.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA25058 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 10:36:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from markd@localhost) by osprey.grizzly.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) id KAA00432; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 10:37:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 10:37:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199708051737.KAA00432@osprey.grizzly.com> From: Mark Diekhans To: nate@mt.sri.com CC: adept@cep.yale.edu, freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <199708051658.KAA04141@rocky.mt.sri.com> (message from Nate Williams on Tue, 5 Aug 1997 10:58:09 -0600 (MDT)) Subject: Re: Libretto 50 and FSD Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Is the Libretto 50 now available in the US? We have 2 of them, but we >ended up buying them from a company that re-packages them from the >Japanese market. Its announced and orders can be placed at various retailers, but I don't believe its shipping yet http://www.waysoft.com for several links. Mark From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Aug 5 21:48:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA28837 for mobile-outgoing; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 21:48:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tokyonet-entrance.astec.co.jp (tokyonet-entrance.astec.co.jp [202.239.16.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA28814 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 21:47:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from amont.astec.co.jp (amont.astec.co.jp [172.20.10.1]) by tokyonet-entrance.astec.co.jp (8.6.12+2.5Wb7/3.4Wbeta5-astecMX2.3) with ESMTP id NAA24604 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 13:47:55 +0900 Received: from lepton (lepton.astec.co.jp [172.20.12.27]) by amont.astec.co.jp (8.7.6/3.5Wbeta-astecMX2.4) with ESMTP id NAA29010 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 13:47:54 +0900 (JST) To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Libretto 50 and FSD From: Hiroyuki HANAI In-Reply-To: Your message of "5 Aug 1997 13:20:53 -0000" References: X-Mailer: Mew version 1.70 on Emacs 19.34.1 / Mule 2.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19970806134925S.hanai@astec.co.jp> Date: Wed, 06 Aug 1997 13:49:25 +0900 X-Dispatcher: impost version 0.99h (Apr. 2, 1997) Lines: 35 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk From: Adept > Does anyone have any gotcha's for the Libretto or even war stories? I > know that Hosokawa-san has done the PAO work on a Libretto, but is the > Libretto available in Japan the same one that is available in the US?> I think that the difference between the Japanese model and the US model is only the keyboard. Others seem to be same at all. So, I think you can enjoy FreeBSD with the US model of Libretto 50. From: Nate Williams > Is the Libretto 50 now available in the US? We have 2 of them, but we > ended up buying them from a company that re-packages them from the > Japanese market. It seems that Toshiba America Inc. is now dealing with the Libretto 50, where URL is: . By the way, In Japan, Libretto 60 is now available. What's new in Libretto 60 is: CPU is Pentium 100 MHz (P-75 for Libretto 50), Longer battery life, Ability of charging the battery during the machine is working. I don't know whether the US model of Libretto 60 is made or not. Cheers! -- Hiroyuki HANAI hanai@astec.co.jp, hanai@jp.FreeBSD.ORG, hanai@FreeBSD.ORG ASTEC Inc. BR Ichigaya 6 Minami-cho Shinjuku-ku Tokyo 162 JAPAN (81)3-5261-5974(Tel)/(81)3-5261-5980(Fax) From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Aug 7 01:35:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA27605 for mobile-outgoing; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 01:35:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.cep.yale.edu (www.cep.yale.edu [130.132.125.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA27600 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 01:35:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (adept@localhost) by www.cep.yale.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id EAA22512; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 04:35:16 -0400 Date: Thu, 7 Aug 1997 04:35:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Adept To: Nate Williams cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Libretto 50 and FSD In-Reply-To: <199708051658.KAA04141@rocky.mt.sri.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 5 Aug 1997, Nate Williams wrote: > Is the Libretto 50 now available in the US? We have 2 of them, but we > ended up buying them from a company that re-packages them from the > Japanese market. Yup. Going rate in the Us seems to be around 1900 USD. Take alook at www.necx.com and www.cdw.com Ben. ____ Ben Samman.................................................ben@edelweb.fr Paris, France Illudium Q36 Explosive Space Modulator From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Aug 7 09:11:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA14888 for mobile-outgoing; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 09:11:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from arg1.demon.co.uk (arg1.demon.co.uk [194.222.34.166]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA14883 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 09:11:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from arg@localhost) by arg1.demon.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA26397; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 17:15:30 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 1997 17:15:30 +0100 (BST) From: Andrew Gordon X-Sender: arg@server.arg.sj.co.uk To: Adept cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Libretto 50 and FSD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 5 Aug 1997, Adept wrote: > I've had my Thinkpad 701C running with FreeBSD 2.2.2 for quite a while now > and love it, but I'm debating whther or not I want to upgrade to a > Libretto50 (great toy to debug networks, eh?) > > Does anyone have any gotcha's for the Libretto or even war stories? I > know that Hosokawa-san has done the PAO work on a Libretto, but is the > Libretto available in Japan the same one that is available in the US?> I purchased one of the english-model Libretto 50 last week. I haven't yet installed FreeBSD on it (awaiting delivery of a replacement, larger hard drive), but I have booted the 2.2.2R boot floppy for test purposes. The most likely hazzard I have observed so far is that, unlike the several Toshibas I have owned previously, the 'suspend' mode suspends to disk (rather than just continuing to refresh the DRAM while suspended). The FDISK partitioning on the disk looks like: off size end name Ptype Desc subtype 0 63 62 - 6 unused 0 63 1520001 1520063 wd0s1 2 fat 6 1520064 72576 1592639 - 6 unused 0 I don't know whether the suspend function just uses the last 32M of the disc regardless, or if it looks for a suitable partition or what - I suspect I may find out shortly! Interestingly, the suspend/resume function (by pressing the power button successfully resumes into sysinstall, despite apm being disabled on the boot floppy. The (PCMCIA) floppy boots OK, but doesn't seem to be probed correctly: fdc0: direction bit not set fdc0: cmd 3 failed at out byte 1 of 3 fdc0: not found at 0x3f0 Otherwise, the hardware seems to probe as expected. The IRDA port probes as sio1 - anyone know if IRDA is capable of supporting PPP between a pair of consenting FreeBSD machines, or does the IR hardware demand a special protocol? Given that the floppy occupies the only PCMCIA slot, it looks like a parallel-port install (PLIP) is the sensible way to go. If anything interesting happens when I get to the install, I will let you know; meantime if there's anything else about the machine you would like to know, drop me an email. Andrew. From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Aug 7 18:48:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA14296 for mobile-outgoing; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 18:48:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tokyonet-entrance.astec.co.jp (tokyonet-entrance.astec.co.jp [202.239.16.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA14288 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 18:48:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from amont.astec.co.jp (amont.astec.co.jp [172.20.10.1]) by tokyonet-entrance.astec.co.jp (8.6.12+2.5Wb7/3.4Wbeta5-astecMX2.3) with ESMTP id KAA20420; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 10:48:07 +0900 Received: from lepton (lepton.astec.co.jp [172.20.12.27]) by amont.astec.co.jp (8.7.6/3.5Wbeta-astecMX2.4) with ESMTP id KAA04154; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 10:48:07 +0900 (JST) To: arg@arg1.demon.co.uk Cc: adept@cep.yale.edu, freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Libretto 50 and FSD From: Hiroyuki HANAI In-Reply-To: Your message of "7 Aug 1997 16:47:06 -0000" References: X-Mailer: Mew version 1.70 on Emacs 19.34.1 / Mule 2.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19970808105009Z.hanai@astec.co.jp> Date: Fri, 08 Aug 1997 10:50:09 +0900 X-Dispatcher: impost version 0.99h (Apr. 2, 1997) Lines: 44 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk From: Andrew Gordon > The most likely hazzard I have observed so far is that, unlike the > several Toshibas I have owned previously, the 'suspend' mode suspends > to disk (rather than just continuing to refresh the DRAM while suspended). Yes, Toshiba calls this `hibernation', i.e. the memory image is dumped into the last region of the hard disk and the Libretto really hibernates! This is very good for the life of battery, but it takes long time, about 30 seconds, to suspend/resume. > The FDISK partitioning on the disk looks like: > > off size end name Ptype Desc subtype > 0 63 62 - 6 unused 0 > 63 1520001 1520063 wd0s1 2 fat 6 > 1520064 72576 1592639 - 6 unused 0 If you use the FDISK.EXE on DOS, the last region will not be shown. > I don't know whether the suspend function just uses the last 32M > of the disc regardless, or if it looks for a suitable partition > or what - I suspect I may find out shortly! Yes, you are right. In hibernation, the memory image is placed on the last 32MB slice of the hard disk. So, you must take care of it when you install FreeBSD. You must leave the last 32MB region unused. > Given that the floppy occupies the only PCMCIA slot, it looks like > a parallel-port install (PLIP) is the sensible way to go. PLIP or SLIP is one solution but you can take faster and easier way. I recommend to use PAO-ready boot floppy(bootpao). When the booting of sysinstall is completed, bootpao tells you to change the PC-card with appropriate one, such as Ethernet card for network install, SCSI card for CD-ROM install. When you change the card, bootpao probe and recognize it automatically, and you can install in usual way! -- Hiroyuki HANAI, Ph.D. hanai@astec.co.jp ASTEC Inc. BR Ichigaya 6 Minami-cho Shinjuku-ku Tokyo 162 JAPAN (81)3-5261-5974(Tel)/(81)3-5261-5980(Fax) From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Aug 7 21:28:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA20641 for mobile-outgoing; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 21:28:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from afs.ntc.mita.keio.ac.jp (afs.ntc.mita.keio.ac.jp [131.113.212.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA20547 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 21:27:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from hosokawa@localhost) by afs.ntc.mita.keio.ac.jp (8.7.4+2.6Wbeta6/3.4W5-ntc_mailserver1.02) id NAA05148; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 13:26:08 +0900 (JST) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 13:26:08 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199708080426.NAA05148@afs.ntc.mita.keio.ac.jp> To: nate@mt.sri.com Cc: adept@cep.yale.edu, freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG, hosokawa@ntc.keio.ac.jp Subject: Re: Libretto 50 and FSD In-Reply-To: Your message of Tue, 5 Aug 1997 10:58:09 -0600 (MDT). <199708051658.KAA04141@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: hosokawa@ntc.keio.ac.jp (HOSOKAWA Tatsumi) X-Mailer: mnews [version 1.18PL3] 1994-08/01(Mon) Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In article <199708051658.KAA04141@rocky.mt.sri.com> nate@mt.sri.com writes: >> Is the Libretto 50 now available in the US? We have 2 of them, but we >> ended up buying them from a company that re-packages them from the >> Japanese market. I got US version of Libretto 50 (US$ 1,999). Its keyboard is 15mm pitch (13mm for Japanese version). >> (In any case, I don't have any experience running FreeBSD on them, and >> although they are pretty sexy, the keyboard is almost completely >> useless.) To install FreeBSD on libretto 50, you have to use dos fdisk to create one fdisk slice, and change slice ID later to 165 from FreeBSD sysinstall. If you fdisk FreeBSD slice directly from FreeBSD sysinstall, the tail of the slice (about 34MB) will be overwritten by hybernation data when you suspend the machine :-<. -- HOSOKAWA, Tatsumi Network Technology Center Keio University hosokawa@ntc.keio.ac.jp From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Aug 8 00:48:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA29771 for mobile-outgoing; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 00:48:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from afs.ntc.mita.keio.ac.jp (afs.ntc.mita.keio.ac.jp [131.113.212.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA29765 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 00:48:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from hosokawa@localhost) by afs.ntc.mita.keio.ac.jp (8.7.4+2.6Wbeta6/3.4W5-ntc_mailserver1.02) id QAA06025; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 16:47:24 +0900 (JST) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 16:47:24 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199708080747.QAA06025@afs.ntc.mita.keio.ac.jp> To: mobile@freebsd.org Cc: hosokawa@ntc.keio.ac.jp Subject: PC-card patch for 3.0-CURRENT (experimental) From: hosokawa@ntc.keio.ac.jp (HOSOKAWA Tatsumi) X-Mailer: mnews [version 1.18PL3] 1994-08/01(Mon) Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As I promised before, I created a patch for laptop machines for today's -current. (the URL is ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/incoming/pccard-current-970808.tar.gz) This tarball contains patch for sys and usr.sbin/pccard. Problems: o Some drivers (scc, spc, ncv, stg, and wlp) have not been incorporated into this patch. scc, spc haven't tested yet ncv, stg should be incorporated in more smart way wlp should be implemented as a patch for wl driver o sn driver does not support multicastiing. -- HOSOKAWA, Tatsumi Network Technology Center Keio University hosokawa@ntc.keio.ac.jp From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Aug 8 07:47:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA22055 for mobile-outgoing; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 07:47:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lsmarso.dialup.access.net (lsmarso.dialup.access.net [166.84.254.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA22047 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 07:47:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from lsmarso@localhost) by lsmarso.dialup.access.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA05612; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 10:44:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19970808104413.04431@panix.com> Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 10:44:13 -0400 From: "Larry S. Marso" To: Hiroyuki HANAI , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Libretto 50 and FSD References: <19970808105009Z.hanai@astec.co.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.79 In-Reply-To: <19970808105009Z.hanai@astec.co.jp>; from Hiroyuki HANAI on Fri, Aug 08, 1997 at 10:50:09AM +0900 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, Aug 08, 1997 at 10:50:09AM +0900, Hiroyuki HANAI wrote: > > to disk (rather than just continuing to refresh the DRAM while suspended). > > Yes, Toshiba calls this `hibernation', i.e. the memory image > is dumped into the last region of the hard disk and the Libretto > really hibernates! > This is very good for the life of battery, but it takes long time, > about 30 seconds, to suspend/resume. > Yes, you are right. > In hibernation, the memory image is placed on the last 32MB slice > of the hard disk. So, you must take care of it when you install FreeBSD. My Chembook notebook also has a suspend to special partition feature, but after a little experimentation I decided that it was incompatible with FreeBSD, suitable for WinTel systems. Are you actually saying you have a "suspend to disk" feature working for FreeBSD? Maybe I gave up in my own case too quickly. -- Larry S. Marso lsmarso@panix.com From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Aug 8 07:49:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA22163 for mobile-outgoing; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 07:49:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lsmarso.dialup.access.net (lsmarso.dialup.access.net [166.84.254.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA22158 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 07:49:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from lsmarso@localhost) by lsmarso.dialup.access.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA05625; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 10:45:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19970808104554.21434@panix.com> Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 10:45:54 -0400 From: "Larry S. Marso" To: HOSOKAWA Tatsumi , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Libretto 50 and FSD References: <199708051658.KAA04141@rocky.mt.sri.com> <199708080426.NAA05148@afs.ntc.mita.keio.ac.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.79 In-Reply-To: <199708080426.NAA05148@afs.ntc.mita.keio.ac.jp>; from HOSOKAWA Tatsumi on Fri, Aug 08, 1997 at 01:26:08PM +0900 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, Aug 08, 1997 at 01:26:08PM +0900, HOSOKAWA Tatsumi wrote: > > To install FreeBSD on libretto 50, you have to use dos fdisk to create > one fdisk slice, and change slice ID later to 165 from FreeBSD > sysinstall. If you fdisk FreeBSD slice directly from FreeBSD > sysinstall, the tail of the slice (about 34MB) will be overwritten by > hybernation data when you suspend the machine :-<. > Have you successfully suspended a FreeBSD session? -- Larry S. Marso lsmarso@panix.com From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Aug 8 08:23:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA23897 for mobile-outgoing; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 08:23:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tokyonet-entrance.astec.co.jp (tokyonet-entrance.astec.co.jp [202.239.16.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA23891 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 08:23:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from amont.astec.co.jp (amont.astec.co.jp [172.20.10.1]) by tokyonet-entrance.astec.co.jp (8.6.12+2.5Wb7/3.4Wbeta5-astecMX2.3) with ESMTP id AAA09122; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 00:22:58 +0900 Received: from lepton (lepton.astec.co.jp [172.20.12.27]) by amont.astec.co.jp (8.7.6/3.5Wbeta-astecMX2.4) with ESMTP id AAA14518; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 00:22:57 +0900 (JST) To: lsmarso@panix.com Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Libretto 50 and FSD From: Hiroyuki HANAI In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 8 Aug 1997 10:44:13 -0400" References: <19970808104413.04431@panix.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.70 on Emacs 19.34.1 / Mule 2.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19970809002509V.hanai@astec.co.jp> Date: Sat, 09 Aug 1997 00:25:09 +0900 X-Dispatcher: impost version 0.99h (Apr. 2, 1997) Lines: 24 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk From: "Larry S. Marso" > > Yes, you are right. > > In hibernation, the memory image is placed on the last 32MB slice > > of the hard disk. So, you must take care of it when you install FreeBSD. > > My Chembook notebook also has a suspend to special partition feature, but > after a little experimentation I decided that it was incompatible with > FreeBSD, suitable for WinTel systems. Why you decided so? > Are you actually saying you have a "suspend to disk" feature working for > FreeBSD? Maybe I gave up in my own case too quickly. Yes! If we don't forget to leave the 34 MB tail of the disk unused, the Libretto suspends/resumes fine with FreeBSD. Actually, Hosokawa-san uses Libretto to develop PAO. // Sorry, I wrote `32MB' in the previous mail but Hosokawa-san says // it's `about 34MB'. I think Hosokawa-san is right because he has // Libretto 50 but I don't have. I have Libretto 30, the previous model. -- H.Hanai From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Aug 8 13:14:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA10375 for mobile-outgoing; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 13:14:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vader.cs.berkeley.edu (vader.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.38.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA10366 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 13:14:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from asami@localhost) by vader.cs.berkeley.edu (8.8.6/8.7.3) id NAA20177; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 13:14:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 13:14:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199708082014.NAA20177@vader.cs.berkeley.edu> To: hanai@astec.co.jp CC: lsmarso@panix.com, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <19970809002509V.hanai@astec.co.jp> (message from Hiroyuki HANAI on Sat, 09 Aug 1997 00:25:09 +0900) Subject: Re: Libretto 50 and FSD From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk * From: Hiroyuki HANAI * If we don't forget to leave the 34 MB tail of the disk unused, * the Libretto suspends/resumes fine with FreeBSD. * Actually, Hosokawa-san uses Libretto to develop PAO. Ok, let me clarify. (1) The problem with DOS fdisk vs. FreeBSD fdisk/sysinstall is not that you can't use the FreeBSD utilities, but it's that you need to leave some number of megabytes at the tail end of the disk unused (and sysinstall will try to use the whole thing if you don't explicitly tell it not to), right? (2) Is the amount "34MB" related to memory size? For instance, if I have a machine with 48MB of memory, is it 50MB or 98MB that I need to leave? Thanks Satoshi From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Aug 8 16:54:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA23484 for mobile-outgoing; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 16:54:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from afs.ntc.mita.keio.ac.jp (afs.ntc.mita.keio.ac.jp [131.113.212.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA23477 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 16:54:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from hosokawa@localhost) by afs.ntc.mita.keio.ac.jp (8.7.4+2.6Wbeta6/3.4W5-ntc_mailserver1.02) id IAA07492; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 08:54:50 +0900 (JST) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 1997 08:54:50 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199708082354.IAA07492@afs.ntc.mita.keio.ac.jp> To: lsmarso@panix.com Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org, hosokawa@ntc.keio.ac.jp Subject: Re: Libretto 50 and FSD In-Reply-To: Your message of Fri, 8 Aug 1997 10:45:54 -0400. <19970808104554.21434@panix.com> From: hosokawa@ntc.keio.ac.jp (HOSOKAWA Tatsumi) X-Mailer: mnews [version 1.18PL3] 1994-08/01(Mon) Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In article <19970808104554.21434@panix.com> lsmarso@panix.com writes: >> Have you successfully suspended a FreeBSD session? Of course. `zzz' works fine with all Libretto series. -- HOSOKAWA, Tatsumi Network Technology Center Keio University hosokawa@ntc.keio.ac.jp From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Aug 8 19:36:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA02539 for mobile-outgoing; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 19:36:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atohasi.mickey.ai.kyutech.ac.jp (atohasi.mickey.ai.kyutech.ac.jp [131.206.21.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA02534 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 19:36:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ohashi@localhost) by atohasi.mickey.ai.kyutech.ac.jp (8.8.5/3.4Wbeta6) id LAA01050; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 11:36:36 +0900 (JST) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 1997 11:36:36 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199708090236.LAA01050@atohasi.mickey.ai.kyutech.ac.jp> To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Libretto 50 and FSD In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 8 Aug 1997 13:14:41 -0700 (PDT)". <199708082014.NAA20177@vader.cs.berkeley.edu> From: ohashi@mickey.ai.kyutech.ac.jp (Takeshi Ohashi) X-Mailer: mnews [version 1.20] 1996-12/08(Sun) Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have a Libretto50(Japanese version) and a Libretto20(only Japanese version). asami>>Ok, let me clarify. asami>> asami>>(1) The problem with DOS fdisk vs. FreeBSD fdisk/sysinstall is not asami>> that you can't use the FreeBSD utilities, but it's that you need asami>> to leave some number of megabytes at the tail end of the disk asami>> unused (and sysinstall will try to use the whole thing if you asami>> don't explicitly tell it not to), right? Yes. Fdisk of DOS and Win95 are looking the disk geometry through the BIOS, but FreeBSD's are looking directly. I think that the problem is similer to the geometry translation promblem. asami>>(2) Is the amount "34MB" related to memory size? For instance, if I asami>> have a machine with 48MB of memory, is it 50MB or 98MB that I asami>> need to leave? In Libretto series case, the size is depended the model or the BIOS, and that is little larger than the maximum availabel memory size. For example, the maximum memroy size of Libretto20/30 is 20MB(8+12), Libretto50(US/Japanese)/60's is 32MB(16+16). If you don't have the optional memory, the leaving size is same. In addition, the size is not related the disk size. Thank you. -- Takeshi OHASHI From owner-freebsd-mobile Sat Aug 9 01:14:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA13758 for mobile-outgoing; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 01:14:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tokyonet-entrance.astec.co.jp (tokyonet-entrance.astec.co.jp [202.239.16.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA13750 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 01:13:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from amont.astec.co.jp (amont.astec.co.jp [172.20.10.1]) by tokyonet-entrance.astec.co.jp (8.6.12+2.5Wb7/3.4Wbeta5-astecMX2.3) with ESMTP id RAA27143; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 17:13:57 +0900 Received: from lepton (lepton.astec.co.jp [172.20.12.27]) by amont.astec.co.jp (8.7.6/3.5Wbeta-astecMX2.4) with ESMTP id RAA19929; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 17:13:56 +0900 (JST) To: asami@cs.berkeley.edu Cc: lsmarso@panix.com, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Libretto 50 and FSD From: Hiroyuki HANAI In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 8 Aug 1997 13:14:41 -0700 (PDT)" References: <199708082014.NAA20177@vader.cs.berkeley.edu> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.70 on Emacs 19.34.1 / Mule 2.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19970809171619K.hanai@astec.co.jp> Date: Sat, 09 Aug 1997 17:16:19 +0900 X-Dispatcher: impost version 0.99h (Apr. 2, 1997) Lines: 27 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) > Ok, let me clarify. Thank you for cleaning up my trash. :-) > (1) The problem with DOS fdisk vs. FreeBSD fdisk/sysinstall is not > that you can't use the FreeBSD utilities, but it's that you need > to leave some number of megabytes at the tail end of the disk > unused (and sysinstall will try to use the whole thing if you > don't explicitly tell it not to), right? Yes. > (2) Is the amount "34MB" related to memory size? For instance, if I Yes. I think that the size of the tail region depends on memory size. But.... > have a machine with 48MB of memory, is it 50MB or 98MB that I > need to leave? Sorry, I don't know how does it depend. -- H.Hanai From owner-freebsd-mobile Sat Aug 9 01:39:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA14575 for mobile-outgoing; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 01:39:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tokyonet-entrance.astec.co.jp (tokyonet-entrance.astec.co.jp [202.239.16.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA14570 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 01:39:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from amont.astec.co.jp (amont.astec.co.jp [172.20.10.1]) by tokyonet-entrance.astec.co.jp (8.6.12+2.5Wb7/3.4Wbeta5-astecMX2.3) with ESMTP id RAA27476; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 17:39:04 +0900 Received: from lepton (lepton.astec.co.jp [172.20.12.27]) by amont.astec.co.jp (8.7.6/3.5Wbeta-astecMX2.4) with ESMTP id RAA20005; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 17:39:03 +0900 (JST) To: ohashi@mickey.ai.kyutech.ac.jp Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Libretto 50 and FSD From: Hiroyuki HANAI In-Reply-To: Your message of "9 Aug 1997 02:46:17 -0000" References: <199708090236.LAA01050@atohasi.mickey.ai.kyutech.ac.jp> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.70 on Emacs 19.34.1 / Mule 2.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19970809174126X.hanai@astec.co.jp> Date: Sat, 09 Aug 1997 17:41:26 +0900 X-Dispatcher: impost version 0.99h (Apr. 2, 1997) Lines: 16 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk From: ohashi@mickey.ai.kyutech.ac.jp (Takeshi Ohashi) > In Libretto series case, the size is depended the model or the BIOS, > and that is little larger than the maximum availabel memory size. For > example, the maximum memroy size of Libretto20/30 is 20MB(8+12), > Libretto50(US/Japanese)/60's is 32MB(16+16). If you don't have the > optional memory, the leaving size is same. In addition, the size is > not related the disk size. If a third party vendor shipped a larger size of optional memory for Libretto, does the FDISK command of DOS/Windows95 recognize it and enlarge the tail region of hard disk? Cheers! -- H.Hanai From owner-freebsd-mobile Sat Aug 9 02:24:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA15942 for mobile-outgoing; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 02:24:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atohasi.mickey.ai.kyutech.ac.jp (atohasi.mickey.ai.kyutech.ac.jp [131.206.21.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA15937 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 02:24:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ohashi@localhost) by atohasi.mickey.ai.kyutech.ac.jp (8.8.5/3.4Wbeta6) id SAA03546; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 18:24:39 +0900 (JST) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 1997 18:24:39 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199708090924.SAA03546@atohasi.mickey.ai.kyutech.ac.jp> To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Libretto 50 and FSD In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 09 Aug 1997 17:41:26 +0900". <19970809174126X.hanai@astec.co.jp> From: ohashi@mickey.ai.kyutech.ac.jp (Takeshi Ohashi) X-Mailer: mnews [version 1.20] 1996-12/08(Sun) Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk <19970809174126X.hanai@astec.co.jp> hanai>>If a third party vendor shipped a larger size of optional hanai>>memory for Libretto, does the FDISK command of DOS/Windows95 hanai>>recognize it and enlarge the tail region of hard disk? If it is possible for hardware, BIOS updateing or hacking is needed, I think, but I am not sure :-) I wander that optional memories by third parties have a slight difference from TOSHIBA's. Some of us bought third party memories for Libretto20/30, but they could not succeed to use XFree86 for 16bpp mode, bucause these memories conflict linear mapping. Then I bought the optional memory for Libretto50 from TOSHIBA. -- Takeshi OHASHI