From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun May 11 03:18:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA21550 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 11 May 1997 03:18:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pegasus.com (pegasus.com [140.174.243.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id DAA21545 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 03:18:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pegasus.com (8.6.8/PEGASUS-2.2) id AAA15601; Sun, 11 May 1997 00:18:13 -1000 Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 00:18:13 -1000 From: richard@pegasus.com (Richard Foulk) Message-Id: <199705111018.AAA15601@pegasus.com> In-Reply-To: Amancio Hasty "Re: which sound card?" (May 10, 10:37pm) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: Amancio Hasty Subject: Re: which sound card? Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk } Please, send me the output of : } } cat /dev/sndstat } } Tnks, } Amancio } Okay, here it is: VoxWare Sound Driver:3.5-alpha7-951119 (Thu Jan 4 01:09:01 PST 1996 Amancio Hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Config options: 188090a Installed drivers: Type 4: Gravis Ultrasound Card config: Gravis Ultrasound at 0x220 irq 11 drq 1,3 Audio devices: 0: GUS PNP (AD1845) (DUPLEX) 1: Gravis UltraSound (DUPLEX) Synth devices: 0: Gravis PNP (512k) Midi devices: 0: Gravis UltraSound Midi Timers: 0: System clock 1: GUS Mixers: 0: AD1848/CS4248/CS4231 1: Gravis Ultrasound From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun May 11 04:08:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA23854 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 11 May 1997 04:08:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rztsun.rz.tu-harburg.de (rztsun.rz.tu-harburg.de [134.28.200.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id EAA23849 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 04:08:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.0 [p0] on FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199705102009.NAA11759@rah.star-gate.com> Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 13:04:51 +0200 (MET DST) From: Ralph Thomas Aussem To: Amancio Hasty Subject: Re: Problems with bt848 in FreeBSD 2.2.1 Cc: Randall Hopper , multimedia@FreeBSD.org, Richard Tobin , Steve Passe , Ralph Thomas Aussem Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi Amancio Thinking more about it what we need is a trace of what is happening >in the bt848 driver . [..] I have tried to uncomment the printf (recompile the kernel,installed it, reboot my machine and start fxtv) but I only see the tsleep-message. Bye Ralph From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun May 11 04:55:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA25588 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 11 May 1997 04:55:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA25583 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 04:55:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA00567; Sun, 11 May 1997 04:54:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705111154.EAA00567@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Ralph Thomas Aussem cc: Randall Hopper , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, Richard Tobin , Steve Passe Subject: Re: Problems with bt848 in FreeBSD 2.2.1 In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 11 May 1997 13:04:51 +0200." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 04:54:59 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Make sure that your card is well seated in the slot or take it out and insert the card. I would also like to get a list of "dmesg". It sounds like your bt848 is not responding to interrupts . Amancio >From The Desk Of Ralph Thomas Aussem : > Hi Amancio > > Thinking more about it what we need is a trace of what is happening > >in the bt848 driver . > [..] > I have tried to uncomment the printf (recompile the kernel,installed it, > reboot my machine and start fxtv) but I only see the tsleep-message. > > Bye > Ralph From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun May 11 05:00:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA25804 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 11 May 1997 05:00:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA25797 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 05:00:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA00665; Sun, 11 May 1997 05:00:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705111200.FAA00665@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: richard@pegasus.com (Richard Foulk) cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: which sound card? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 11 May 1997 00:18:13 -1000." <199705111018.AAA15601@pegasus.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 05:00:32 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Your system is not detecting properly the GUS PNP. Would you happen to know at what speed is your ISA bus set to? On my system: Audio devices: 0: GUS PNP (CS4231) (DUPLEX) 1: Gravis UltraSound (DUPLEX) On your system: Audio devices: 0: GUS PNP (AD1845) (DUPLEX) 1: Gravis UltraSound (DUPLEX) The ad1845 is wrong... Tnks, Amancio >From The Desk Of Richard Foulk : > } Please, send me the output of : > } > } cat /dev/sndstat > } > } Tnks, > } Amancio > } > > Okay, here it is: > > > VoxWare Sound Driver:3.5-alpha7-951119 (Thu Jan 4 01:09:01 PST 1996 Amancio Hasty@rah.star-gate.com) > Config options: 188090a > > Installed drivers: > Type 4: Gravis Ultrasound > > > Card config: > Gravis Ultrasound at 0x220 irq 11 drq 1,3 > > Audio devices: > 0: GUS PNP (AD1845) (DUPLEX) > 1: Gravis UltraSound (DUPLEX) > > Synth devices: > 0: Gravis PNP (512k) > > Midi devices: > 0: Gravis UltraSound Midi > > Timers: > 0: System clock > 1: GUS > > Mixers: > 0: AD1848/CS4248/CS4231 > 1: Gravis Ultrasound From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun May 11 05:10:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA26162 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 11 May 1997 05:10:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rztsun.rz.tu-harburg.de (rztsun.rz.tu-harburg.de [134.28.200.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id FAA26157 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 05:10:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.1 [p0] on FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199705111154.EAA00567@rah.star-gate.com> Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 14:07:00 +0200 (MET DST) From: Ralph Thomas Aussem To: Amancio Hasty Subject: Re: Problems with bt848 in FreeBSD 2.2.1 Cc: Steve Passe , Richard Tobin , multimedia@FreeBSD.org, Randall Hopper Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On 11-May-97 Amancio Hasty wrote: >Make sure that your card is well seated in the slot or take it out and >insert the card. Under windos95 everything works well. Do I have to activate something in the kernel config file ? > >I would also like to get a list of "dmesg". It sounds like your bt848 >is not responding to interrupts . ---------------------------snip ----------------- Copyright (c) 1992-1996 FreeBSD Inc. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 2.2-RELEASE #3: Sat May 10 23:06:12 MET DST 1997 root@mavhh.aut.tu-harburg.de:/usr/src/sys/compile/mavhh CPU: i486DX (486-class CPU) real memory = 33554432 (32768K bytes) avail memory = 30232576 (29524K bytes) Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: chip0 rev 1 on pci0:0 chip1 rev 2 on pci0:7:0 chip2 rev 2 on pci0:7:1 vga0 rev 0 int a irq 11 on pci0:8 ahc0 rev 0 int a irq 11 on pci0:9 ahc0: aic7880 Single Channel, SCSI Id=7, 16 SCBs (ahc0:2:0): "PHILIPS CDD2600 1.07" type 5 removable SCSI 2 cd0(ahc0:2:0): CD-ROM cd present [328768 x 2048 byte records] (ahc0:3:0): "WANGTEK 5150ES SCSI FA18 08" type 1 removable SCSI 1 st0(ahc0:3:0): Sequential-Access drive offline (ahc0:4:0): "IBM 0662SW1 !X 2 23" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd0(ahc0:4:0): Direct-Access 1003MB (2055035 512 byte sectors) (ahc0:5:0): "QUANTUM FIREBALL_TM3200S 300X" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd1(ahc0:5:0): Direct-Access 3067MB (6281856 512 byte sectors) (ahc0:6:0): "FUJITSU M2684S-512 2039" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd2(ahc0:6:0): Direct-Access 507MB (1039329 512 byte sectors) bktr0 rev 17 int a irq 11 on pci0:10 Hauppauge WinCast/TV, Temic PAL tuner. Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> ed0: disabled, not probed. sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16550A sio2 at 0x3e8-0x3ef irq 10 on isa sio2: type 16550A sio3 at 0x2e8-0x2ef irq 9 on isa sio3: type 16550A lpt0 at 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa lpt0: Interrupt-driven port lp0: TCP/IP capable interface fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: NEC 72065B fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in tel0 at 0xd80 irq 15 maddr 0xd8000 msize 4096 on isa tel0: card type Teles S0 or Creatix S0 npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface apm0: disabled, not probed. sb0 at 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 on isa sb0: sbxvi0 at 0x0 drq 5 on isa sbxvi0: sbmidi0 at 0x330 on isa joy0 at 0x201 on isa joy0: joystick changing root device to sd1a ---------------------------snip ----------------- Bye Ralph From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun May 11 06:35:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA28744 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 11 May 1997 06:35:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pegasus.com (pegasus.com [140.174.243.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA28738 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 06:35:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pegasus.com (8.6.8/PEGASUS-2.2) id DAA16526; Sun, 11 May 1997 03:35:06 -1000 Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 03:35:06 -1000 From: richard@pegasus.com (Richard Foulk) Message-Id: <199705111335.DAA16526@pegasus.com> In-Reply-To: Amancio Hasty "Re: which sound card?" (May 11, 5:00am) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: Amancio Hasty Subject: Re: which sound card? Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk } Your system is not detecting properly the GUS PNP. Would you happen } to know at what speed is your ISA bus set to? I'm not sure. It's set to the default value. Nothing has been pushed on the motherboard. } On my system: } Audio devices: } 0: GUS PNP (CS4231) (DUPLEX) } 1: Gravis UltraSound (DUPLEX) } } On your system: } } Audio devices: } 0: GUS PNP (AD1845) (DUPLEX) } 1: Gravis UltraSound (DUPLEX) } } The ad1845 is wrong... } The board works fine with the DOS tests that came with it. Richard From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun May 11 10:12:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA05028 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 11 May 1997 10:12:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.andrew.cmu.edu (MAIL1.ANDREW.CMU.EDU [128.2.10.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA05023 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 10:12:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from po5.andrew.cmu.edu (PO5.ANDREW.CMU.EDU [128.2.10.105]) by mail1.andrew.cmu.edu (8.8.2/8.8.2) with ESMTP id NAA10211 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 13:12:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by po5.andrew.cmu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.2) id NAA06395 for post+internet.computing.freebsd-multimedia@MAIL1.ANDREW.CMU.EDU; Sun, 11 May 1997 13:12:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: via switchmail for post+internet.computing.freebsd-multimedia@andrew.cmu.edu; Sun, 11 May 1997 13:12:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cmu1.acs.cmu.edu (CMU1.ACS.CMU.EDU [128.2.35.186]) by po5.andrew.cmu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.2) with ESMTP id NAA06390 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 13:12:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from apriori.cc.cmu.edu (APRIORI.CC.CMU.EDU [128.2.72.117]) by cmu1.acs.cmu.edu (8.8.2/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA01480 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 13:12:02 -0400 Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 13:12:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert N Watson X-Sender: rnw@apriori.cc.cmu.edu To: post+internet.computing.freebsd-multimedia@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: Audio, combo Data/Audio CDR scripts Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-2139678214-2064463308-863370721=:20239" Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---2139678214-2064463308-863370721=:20239 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Attached using MIME are three scripts to handle the Audio and Data/Audio CDR creation process. For instructions on using the scripts, look in the scripts themselves. I have not used these revised scripts -- mine were written in sh, and I converted them to csh for distribution. This means they may have problems. Also, the CD-burning process itself is very fragile on some systems, so that may cause problems. End result: if you screw up or it screws up, this will be expensive. :) Don't blame me. I've successfully burned a number of audio and combined audio/data CD's so far. And destroyed several figuring out how to burn them. One got burnt little-endian, and is affectionately titled "Little Endian Machines" -- we're thinking about releasing it as an album . If you have any changes to submit, either to add functionallity or whatever, email me and let me know. Thanks :) 1. convert2cdr.csh Converts stereo 44khz .wav files to .cdr files appropriate for CD-burning. It also reverses the endian. Requires sox package/port. 3. burn_audio.csh Burns a set of audio tracks onto the CDR. Set the variable in the script to your data directory, and place a series of files number 01..99.cdr in the directory, and it'll burn them on in that order. It actually burns according to the normal ls output order. I like using 01..99 since it's easy to tell what order things will turn up in. The .cdr files should have been generated by the above script -- doing it yourself is risky. These scripts are designed for the Intel platform, as they reverse the endian (CD's are burned big endian.) 2. burn_audio_data.csh Burns one data image to track 1, then burns audio onto the rest. Again, modify the script to point to the right place for both audio and data. You can create the cd image with mkisofs included with your system. 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Sun, 11 May 1997 13:27:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA11681 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 13:27:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA03533; Sun, 11 May 1997 13:27:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705112027.NAA03533@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: richard@pegasus.com (Richard Foulk) cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: which sound card? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 11 May 1997 03:35:06 -1000." <199705111335.DAA16526@pegasus.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 13:27:51 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The info on how to set the ISA bus speed is usually in your motherboards manual. Cheers, Amancio >From The Desk Of Richard Foulk : > } Your system is not detecting properly the GUS PNP. Would you happen > } to know at what speed is your ISA bus set to? > > I'm not sure. It's set to the default value. Nothing has been pushed > on the motherboard. > > } On my system: > } Audio devices: > } 0: GUS PNP (CS4231) (DUPLEX) > } 1: Gravis UltraSound (DUPLEX) > } > } On your system: > } > } Audio devices: > } 0: GUS PNP (AD1845) (DUPLEX) > } 1: Gravis UltraSound (DUPLEX) > } > } The ad1845 is wrong... > } > > The board works fine with the DOS tests that came with it. > > > Richard From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun May 11 15:58:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA17112 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 11 May 1997 15:58:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pegasus.com (pegasus.com [140.174.243.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA17107 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 15:58:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pegasus.com (8.6.8/PEGASUS-2.2) id MAA18854; Sun, 11 May 1997 12:58:09 -1000 Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 12:58:09 -1000 From: richard@pegasus.com (Richard Foulk) Message-Id: <199705112258.MAA18854@pegasus.com> In-Reply-To: Amancio Hasty "Re: which sound card?" (May 11, 1:27pm) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: Amancio Hasty Subject: Re: which sound card? Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk } The info on how to set the ISA bus speed is usually in your motherboards } manual. } } Cheers, } Amancio } It was set to `1/4 PCLK'. I switched to 7.159Mhz, but it doesn't sound any different. Still playing garbage. Here's what /dev/sndstat looks like now: VoxWare Sound Driver:3.5-alpha7-951119 (Thu Jan 4 01:09:01 PST 1996 Amancio Hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Config options: 188090a Installed drivers: Type 4: Gravis Ultrasound Card config: Gravis Ultrasound at 0x220 irq 11 drq 1,3 Audio devices: 0: GUS PNP (CS4231) (DUPLEX) 1: Gravis UltraSound (DUPLEX) Synth devices: 0: Gravis PNP (512k) Midi devices: 0: Gravis UltraSound Midi Timers: 0: System clock 1: GUS Mixers: 0: AD1848/CS4248/CS4231 1: Gravis Ultrasound Richard From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun May 11 16:01:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA17231 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 11 May 1997 16:01:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA17226 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 16:01:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA07354; Sun, 11 May 1997 16:01:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705112301.QAA07354@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: richard@pegasus.com (Richard Foulk) cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: which sound card? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 11 May 1997 12:58:09 -1000." <199705112258.MAA18854@pegasus.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 16:01:45 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk grab this file: ftp://rah.star-gate.com/pub/sorrydave.au cat sorrydave.au >/dev/audio If you have an audio server kill it before catting the audio file. Tnks, Amancio >From The Desk Of Richard Foulk : > } The info on how to set the ISA bus speed is usually in your motherboards > } manual. > } > } Cheers, > } Amancio > } > > It was set to `1/4 PCLK'. I switched to 7.159Mhz, but it doesn't > sound any different. Still playing garbage. > > Here's what /dev/sndstat looks like now: > > VoxWare Sound Driver:3.5-alpha7-951119 (Thu Jan 4 01:09:01 PST 1996 Amancio Hasty@rah.star-gate.com) > Config options: 188090a > > Installed drivers: > Type 4: Gravis Ultrasound > > > Card config: > Gravis Ultrasound at 0x220 irq 11 drq 1,3 > > Audio devices: > 0: GUS PNP (CS4231) (DUPLEX) > 1: Gravis UltraSound (DUPLEX) > > Synth devices: > 0: Gravis PNP (512k) > > Midi devices: > 0: Gravis UltraSound Midi > > Timers: > 0: System clock > 1: GUS > > Mixers: > 0: AD1848/CS4248/CS4231 > 1: Gravis Ultrasound > > > > Richard From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun May 11 18:14:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA21160 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 11 May 1997 18:14:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pegasus.com (pegasus.com [140.174.243.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA21155 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 18:14:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pegasus.com (8.6.8/PEGASUS-2.2) id PAA19517; Sun, 11 May 1997 15:14:24 -1000 Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 15:14:24 -1000 From: richard@pegasus.com (Richard Foulk) Message-Id: <199705120114.PAA19517@pegasus.com> In-Reply-To: Amancio Hasty "Re: which sound card?" (May 11, 4:01pm) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: Amancio Hasty Subject: Re: which sound card? Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk } grab this file: } ftp://rah.star-gate.com/pub/sorrydave.au I'm getting a `Connection refused' from you just now. But I already have a copy, cksum: 1887305151 29684 sorrydave.au } cat sorrydave.au >/dev/audio } } If you have an audio server kill it before catting the audio file. } } Tnks, } Amancio No audio server yet. I still get throbbing, raspy, looping garbage. It seemed like the data wasn't making it to the board's buffer, but different input files elicit different garbage. It sounds like the sample rate is off by some very large amount. But I've tried modifying data in both directions with sox, to no avail -- it just sounds different, not recognizable. Richard From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun May 11 18:21:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA21347 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 11 May 1997 18:21:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA21342 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 18:21:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA00294; Sun, 11 May 1997 18:20:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705120120.SAA00294@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: richard@pegasus.com (Richard Foulk) cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: which sound card? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 11 May 1997 15:14:24 -1000." <199705120114.PAA19517@pegasus.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 18:20:58 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk My chksum is: cksum sorrydave.au 1522428464 29652 sorrydave.au Amancio >From The Desk Of Richard Foulk : > } grab this file: > } ftp://rah.star-gate.com/pub/sorrydave.au > > I'm getting a `Connection refused' from you just now. But I already have > a copy, cksum: > > 1887305151 29684 sorrydave.au > > } cat sorrydave.au >/dev/audio > } > } If you have an audio server kill it before catting the audio file. > } > } Tnks, > } Amancio > > No audio server yet. I still get throbbing, raspy, looping garbage. > It seemed like the data wasn't making it to the board's buffer, but > different input files elicit different garbage. > > It sounds like the sample rate is off by some very large amount. But > I've tried modifying data in both directions with sox, to no avail -- > it just sounds different, not recognizable. > > > Richard From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun May 11 18:30:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA21545 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 11 May 1997 18:30:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA21538 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 18:30:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA00388; Sun, 11 May 1997 18:30:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705120130.SAA00388@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: richard@pegasus.com (Richard Foulk) cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: which sound card? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 11 May 1997 12:58:09 -1000." <199705112258.MAA18854@pegasus.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 18:30:41 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Also make sure that you have 2 or 3 wait states for you ISA bus if it is not obvious from your BIOS display reference your motherboard's manual. amancio >From The Desk Of Richard Foulk : > } The info on how to set the ISA bus speed is usually in your motherboards > } manual. > } > } Cheers, > } Amancio > } > > It was set to `1/4 PCLK'. I switched to 7.159Mhz, but it doesn't > sound any different. Still playing garbage. > > Here's what /dev/sndstat looks like now: > > VoxWare Sound Driver:3.5-alpha7-951119 (Thu Jan 4 01:09:01 PST 1996 Amancio Hasty@rah.star-gate.com) > Config options: 188090a > > Installed drivers: > Type 4: Gravis Ultrasound > > > Card config: > Gravis Ultrasound at 0x220 irq 11 drq 1,3 > > Audio devices: > 0: GUS PNP (CS4231) (DUPLEX) > 1: Gravis UltraSound (DUPLEX) > > Synth devices: > 0: Gravis PNP (512k) > > Midi devices: > 0: Gravis UltraSound Midi > > Timers: > 0: System clock > 1: GUS > > Mixers: > 0: AD1848/CS4248/CS4231 > 1: Gravis Ultrasound > > > > Richard From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun May 11 18:32:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA21608 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 11 May 1997 18:32:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pegasus.com (pegasus.com [140.174.243.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA21602 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 18:32:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pegasus.com (8.6.8/PEGASUS-2.2) id PAA19616; Sun, 11 May 1997 15:31:37 -1000 Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 15:31:37 -1000 From: richard@pegasus.com (Richard Foulk) Message-Id: <199705120131.PAA19616@pegasus.com> In-Reply-To: Amancio Hasty "Re: which sound card?" (May 11, 6:20pm) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: Amancio Hasty Subject: Re: which sound card? Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk } My chksum is: } cksum sorrydave.au } 1522428464 29652 sorrydave.au } } Amancio } Okay, got it. Same checksum as your's. Sounds the same. Richard From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun May 11 19:18:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA23137 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 11 May 1997 19:18:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA23128 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 19:18:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA01333; Sun, 11 May 1997 19:17:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705120217.TAA01333@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: richard@pegasus.com (Richard Foulk) cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: which sound card? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 11 May 1997 15:31:37 -1000." <199705120131.PAA19616@pegasus.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 19:17:59 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk And you have tested your card in DOS or Windows? Tnks, Amancio >From The Desk Of Richard Foulk : > } My chksum is: > } cksum sorrydave.au > } 1522428464 29652 sorrydave.au > } > } Amancio > } > > Okay, got it. Same checksum as your's. Sounds the same. > > > Richard From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon May 12 06:51:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA11451 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 12 May 1997 06:51:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from teligent.se (iservern.teligent.se [194.17.198.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA11440 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 06:51:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from datorn.teligent.se (datorn.teligent.se [192.168.2.31]) by teligent.se (8.7/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA04403; Mon, 12 May 1997 15:49:44 +0200 Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 15:51:17 +0200 (MET DST) From: Jakob Alvermark To: Doug White cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Vic and Quickcam In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id GAA11443 Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 9 May 1997, Doug White wrote: > > What do you mean by my "network"? And how do you mean require use of > > mbone? You have to excuse me, I´m new to this. > > That didn't come out the way I expected. I meant to say, does your network > require the use of mrouted? For instance, our Cisco routers at the U of O > have "native multicast" enabled, so I don't need to run mrouted -- it just > works. :) Ok, I see.. Well.. I tried now with programs i found on your machine, vic-qcam and nv-qcam, and it works! The two machines I connect are on the same ethernet, same subnet, so I think mrouted shouldn't be needed in this case. One thing that might come up is running multicast applications between our two offices. The two offices are connected via a 128Kb/s link, and bridges. I assume the bridges work on "ethernet"-level, so it shold work. Well, I have to find out that myself. :-) > > > I have a program called `xfqcam' which can view the quickcam. I think it > > > even uses the kernel interface. I don't know, I have the libraries laying > > > around here too...I have lots of stuff from the qcam I can't use on this > > > machine anymore....:) > > > > Where can I get it? :-) > > I will put it at ftp://gdi.uoregon.edu/pub/xfqcam.gz. Extract and run. Ok, I've tried it. Works sometimes, sometimes not.. complains about not finding a camera. (?) Anyway, since I got vic-qcam and nv-qcam working, I don't have much use for xfqcam... Btw, the "vic"-program that a got from you don't have brightness/contrast controls. It´s a bit sad.. Byt, hey, it's just for tests anyway. Thank everyone! /Jakob Alvermark ------------------------------------------------------- Teligent AB, P.O. Box 213, S-149 23 Nynäshamn, Sweden Telephone +46-(0)8 520 660 00 * Fax +46-(0)8 520 193 36 Direct +46-(0)8 520 660 32 * GSM +46-(0)70 792 16 57 From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon May 12 07:04:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA12374 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 12 May 1997 07:04:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stevenson.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (stevenson144.cogsci.ed.ac.uk [129.215.144.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA11913 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 06:57:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from richard@localhost) by stevenson.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA25946; Mon, 12 May 1997 14:53:59 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 14:53:59 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <199705121353.OAA25946@stevenson.cogsci.ed.ac.uk> From: Richard Tobin Subject: Re: Problems with bt848 in FreeBSD 2.2.1 To: Amancio Hasty , Ralph Thomas Aussem In-Reply-To: Amancio Hasty's message of Sat, 10 May 1997 12:46:15 -0700 Organization: just say no Cc: Steve Passe , Richard Tobin , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, Randall Hopper Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Is anyone else using a Cyrix CPU 133 Mhz / with a Bt848 card? I'm using a Cyrix PR-166. -- Richard From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon May 12 07:55:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA15053 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 12 May 1997 07:55:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lirmm.lirmm.fr (lirmm.lirmm.fr [193.49.104.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15048 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 07:55:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lirmm.fr (myosotis.lirmm.fr [193.49.104.14]) by lirmm.lirmm.fr (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA29431 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 16:55:25 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199705121455.QAA29431@lirmm.lirmm.fr> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: grabber for vic Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 16:55:24 +0200 From: Michel Jacquot Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I am about to buy a video grabber for a PC under FreeBSD 2.2.1, to use with vic. I am wondering if the Matrox Pulsar card would work with the standard Matrox Meteor driver. Otherwise, do you know of any other card that works fine (good quality)? Thanks for your answer. Best regards, Michel --- Michel Jacquot LIRMM 161 rue ADA 34392 Montpellier Cedex 5 FRANCE Tel +33 (0)4 67 41 85 94 Fax +33 (0)4 67 41 85 00 email: jacquot@lirmm.fr www : http://www.lirmm.fr/~jacquot --- From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon May 12 07:59:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA15186 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 12 May 1997 07:59:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA15181 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 07:59:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Mon, 12 May 1997 10:57:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com ([144.54.57.34]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA07316; Mon, 12 May 97 10:57:24 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA27928; Mon, 12 May 1997 10:56:39 -0400 Message-Id: <19970512105639.44853@ct.picker.com> Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 10:56:39 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Ralph Thomas Aussem Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems with bt848 in FreeBSD 2.2.1 References: <19970508161741.28673@ct.picker.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: ; from Ralph Thomas Aussem on Fri, May 09, 1997 at 11:21:02PM +0200 Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Ralph Thomas Aussem: |Randall Hopper: |> 1) In fxtv when you can hear the audio, play with the appearance |> controls (Input->Appearance) and see if that changes anything. |If I change the appearance the display changes to. If I change tuner/video |the video signal changes. So the control functions seems to work. A few questions and things to try: 1) Which version of the driver are you using 2) By "the display changes too" do you mean that when you, for example, adjust the brightness up, you see the screen get brighter? 3) When you change tuner/video, what visual cues do you have that anything happened -- you said you see the video signal change? 4) As the screen gets brighter do you see solid white or do you see any background static in there? The fact that you see something change with the appearance controls confirms that the driver is dumping images into the driver memory buffer. 5) Sounds like either 1) the tuner isn't tuned right, 2) the video signal is somehow being disabled, or 3) there's a problem in fxtv with the color-space conversion code that crops up on your particular video card. If its one of the former two, whether you see static or not will help point that out. In case its the latter, try playing with the colorbar and pixel swapping options with direct video disabled (which you said is what its defaulting to). E.g.: fxtv -disableDirectV -colorbars -nobswap2Bpp Here's the full list of options to play with depending on your video mode: 15bpp/16bpp MODES: -nobswap2Bpp, -bswap2Bpp 24bpp (3Bpp) MODES: -nobswap3Bpp, -bswap3Bpp 24/32bpp(4Bpp) MODES: -nobswap4Bpp, -bswap4Bpp, -nowswap4Bpp, -wswap4Bpp, 6) If your card supports it, run in other color depths (8,15,16,24,32 bits per pixel) and see if you get the same result. 6) Finally, please mail me the output of: "fxtv -debug startup", and "xdpyinfo" and which video card you're using. Thanks, Randall From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon May 12 09:45:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA20605 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 12 May 1997 09:45:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA20599 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 09:45:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA08587; Mon, 12 May 1997 09:45:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 09:45:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White X-Sender: dwhite@localhost Reply-To: Doug White To: Jakob Alvermark cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Vic and Quickcam In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 12 May 1997, Jakob Alvermark wrote: > Ok, I see.. Well.. I tried now with programs i found on your machine, > vic-qcam and nv-qcam, and it works! The two machines I connect are on the > same ethernet, same subnet, so I think mrouted shouldn't be needed in > this case. One thing that might come up is running multicast applications > between our two offices. The two offices are connected via a 128Kb/s > link, and bridges. I assume the bridges work on "ethernet"-level, so it > shold work. Well, I have to find out that myself. :-) Cool. Yes, if your machines are onthe same subnet then multicast will work without any further configuration. You either need to reconfigure y our routers or use mrouted if you want to get to other places in your LAN that are behind routers. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon May 12 11:11:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA25573 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 12 May 1997 11:11:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA25568 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 11:11:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA11596; Mon, 12 May 1997 11:11:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705121811.LAA11596@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Brad Parker cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The "BT848 RISC Challenge" In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 12 May 1997 10:01:43 EDT." <199705121401.OAA24205@compaq.parker.boston.ma.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 11:11:17 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi Brad, If you are not in the freebsd multimedia mailing list please do join in. Do keep the same interface so both OSes can benefit from the apps. In the event that you wish to add / or change an IOCTL please post on the multimedia mailing list for review. For now , I rather keep both sources separate the driver is just one file and I am afraid that if we decide to start supporting other OSes that it will start to be more complicated than what it is. This is the Bt848 Project web page: http://freebsd.org/~fsmp/HomeAuto/Bt848.html Cheers, Amancio >From The Desk Of Brad Parker : > > Hi! > > First off I'd like to thank you for all the work you've done on > freebsd a/v. I've certainly benefited. > > Due to a twist of fate I'm spending more time on Linux these days. > I'm trying to use a BT848 based card. The linux driver I've found is, > well, rather poor. It barely works doing capture-to-screen. > > I've started porting the freebsd driver to linux - in the process I > split it up in to freebsd specific parts, linux specific parts and > common parts. Naturally I want to support vat, so I want the existing > ioctl's to work. > > Is this interesting? Is it a waste of time? (I'll probably do it any, > even if it is :-) > > I'd also like to use the various tools you guys are building, etc... > > what do you think? > > -brad > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon May 12 12:34:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA00290 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 12 May 1997 12:34:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from teligent.se (iservern.teligent.se [194.17.198.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA00267 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 12:34:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from datorn.teligent.se (datorn.teligent.se [192.168.2.31]) by teligent.se (8.7/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA08923; Mon, 12 May 1997 21:10:52 +0200 Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 21:08:24 +0200 (MET DST) From: Jakob Alvermark To: Doug White cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Vic and Quickcam In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id MAA00279 Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 12 May 1997, Doug White wrote: > > Ok, I see.. Well.. I tried now with programs i found on your machine, > > vic-qcam and nv-qcam, and it works! The two machines I connect are on the > > same ethernet, same subnet, so I think mrouted shouldn't be needed in > > this case. One thing that might come up is running multicast applications > > between our two offices. The two offices are connected via a 128Kb/s > > link, and bridges. I assume the bridges work on "ethernet"-level, so it > > shold work. Well, I have to find out that myself. :-) > > Cool. Yes, if your machines are onthe same subnet then multicast will > work without any further configuration. You either need to reconfigure y > our routers or use mrouted if you want to get to other places in your LAN > that are behind routers. Yes, it's cool.. :-) I've even run vic-FreeBSD and vic-Win95. Works ok, except for one thing, the vic-Win95 I have can´t send! Not using a Quickcam anyway. That's the big final question. Is there any version of vic for Windows95 that supports Connectix Quickcam? Please, anybody! I would be most grateful if some could tell me if it exists, and where I could find it. Thanks, Jakob Alvermark ------------------------------------------------------- Teligent AB, P.O. Box 213, S-149 23 Nynäshamn, Sweden Telephone +46-(0)8 520 660 00 * Fax +46-(0)8 520 193 36 Direct +46-(0)8 520 660 32 * GSM +46-(0)70 792 16 57 From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon May 12 15:04:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA08565 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 12 May 1997 15:04:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA08560 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 15:04:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA14224; Mon, 12 May 1997 15:04:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 15:04:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White X-Sender: dwhite@localhost Reply-To: Doug White To: Jakob Alvermark cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Vic and Quickcam In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id PAA08561 Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 12 May 1997, Jakob Alvermark wrote: > I've even run vic-FreeBSD and vic-Win95. Works ok, except for one thing, > the vic-Win95 I have can´t send! Not using a Quickcam anyway. That's the > big final question. > > Is there any version of vic for Windows95 that supports Connectix Quickcam? > Please, anybody! I would be most grateful if some could tell me if it > exists, and where I could find it. You should feel lucky that vic even works on win95 without kiling it :) If you ned transmit badly, you may be more interested in Precept's IP/TV. It costs money but it does do a pretty decent job. Our Computing Center is going ga-ga over it a the moment. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon May 12 18:23:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA18437 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 12 May 1997 18:23:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA18432 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 18:23:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Mon, 12 May 1997 21:22:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com ([144.54.57.34]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA27044; Mon, 12 May 97 21:22:45 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id VAA28558; Mon, 12 May 1997 21:22:02 -0400 Message-Id: <19970512212201.21957@ct.picker.com> Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 21:22:01 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Bt848 on P55T2P4-P100oc Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In case anyone's motherboard shoppin' for a multimedia system, you should give the ASUS P55T2P4 a look (Triton 2 chipset). Several days ago, I swapped one of these under my P100 in place of my old P55TP4XE Triton 1 (for the fun of it; you know, the hobby thing; old one was working just fine). The Wincast (and all my other cards/memory) work just fine with the standard BIOS setup and (more importantly) with the mem bus/PCI bus overclocked to 83/41.5Mhz (and the CPU OCed to 125Mhz). My P100 w/ T2P4 now benches up with the P150s and P166s. Not bad. It'll be a more restful wait for the the K6-233 prices to fall now, and I'm even armed with the just the board for the chip :-) Randall From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon May 12 18:48:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA19721 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 12 May 1997 18:48:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA19712 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 18:48:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA14383; Mon, 12 May 1997 18:48:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705130148.SAA14383@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Randall Hopper cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bt848 on P55T2P4-P100oc In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 12 May 1997 21:22:01 EDT." <19970512212201.21957@ct.picker.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 18:48:08 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk This is useful information . I think that what we ought to do is collect a few system configurations and publish them in the Bt848 page. Cheers, Amancio >From The Desk Of Randall Hopper : > In case anyone's motherboard shoppin' for a multimedia system, you > should give the ASUS P55T2P4 a look (Triton 2 chipset). Several days ago, > I swapped one of these under my P100 in place of my old P55TP4XE Triton 1 > (for the fun of it; you know, the hobby thing; old one was working just > fine). > > The Wincast (and all my other cards/memory) work just fine with the > standard BIOS setup and (more importantly) with the mem bus/PCI bus > overclocked to 83/41.5Mhz (and the CPU OCed to 125Mhz). > > My P100 w/ T2P4 now benches up with the P150s and P166s. Not bad. > It'll be a more restful wait for the the K6-233 prices to fall now, and I'm > even armed with the just the board for the chip :-) > > > > Randall From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon May 12 19:15:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA21461 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 12 May 1997 19:15:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA21455 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 19:15:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Mon, 12 May 1997 22:14:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com ([144.54.57.34]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA27731; Mon, 12 May 97 22:14:06 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id WAA28629; Mon, 12 May 1997 22:13:23 -0400 Message-Id: <19970512221323.53520@ct.picker.com> Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 22:13:23 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Amancio Hasty Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bt848 on P55T2P4-P100oc References: <19970512212201.21957@ct.picker.com> <199705130148.SAA14383@rah.star-gate.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: <199705130148.SAA14383@rah.star-gate.com>; from Amancio Hasty on Mon, May 12, 1997 at 06:48:08PM -0700 Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Amancio Hasty: |This is useful information . I think that what we ought to do is collect |a few system configurations and publish them in the Bt848 page. Sounds like a good idea. I'm sure it'd help the many monitors of our list with their future purchases. We need a thorough form for folks to fill in before we start gathering data. Could easily be an HTML form on the multimedia page (would save list traffic and subsequent collation), and could then be more easily massaged into an HTML table, also for web posting/browsing. As for form fields, here's a first stab (focusing on multimedia): HARDWARE: Motherboard: (Make/Model/Vers) MB Chipset: CPU: (Make & speed) Overclocks tested: (CPU/Mem/PCI) System Mem: (Type/Speed) Video Card: (Make/Model, Mem/MemType) TV Card: (Make/Model) [anything else ?] Sound Card: (Make/Model) Other Cards: Comments: SOFTWARE: XFree Vers: Color depths tested: Randall From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon May 12 19:24:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA22019 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 12 May 1997 19:24:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA22013 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 19:24:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA14764 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 19:24:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705130224.TAA14764@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 to: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bt848 on P55T2P4-P100oc In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 12 May 1997 22:13:23 EDT." <19970512221323.53520@ct.picker.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 19:24:45 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Could any web techie take over Randall's request? The end product should be placed in the Bt848 Web Page. Tnks, Amancio >From The Desk Of Randall Hopper : > Amancio Hasty: > |This is useful information . I think that what we ought to do is collect > |a few system configurations and publish them in the Bt848 page. > > Sounds like a good idea. I'm sure it'd help the many monitors of our list > with their future purchases. > > We need a thorough form for folks to fill in before we start gathering > data. Could easily be an HTML form on the multimedia page (would save list > traffic and subsequent collation), and could then be more easily massaged > into an HTML table, also for web posting/browsing. > > As for form fields, here's a first stab (focusing on multimedia): > > HARDWARE: > Motherboard: (Make/Model/Vers) > MB Chipset: > CPU: (Make & speed) > Overclocks tested: (CPU/Mem/PCI) > System Mem: (Type/Speed) > Video Card: (Make/Model, Mem/MemType) > TV Card: (Make/Model) [anything else ?] > Sound Card: (Make/Model) > Other Cards: > Comments: > > SOFTWARE: > XFree Vers: > Color depths tested: > > > Randall > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon May 12 19:43:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA23247 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 12 May 1997 19:43:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA23241 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 19:43:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA20132; Mon, 12 May 1997 19:43:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 19:43:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White X-Sender: dwhite@localhost Reply-To: Doug White To: Randall Hopper cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bt848 on P55T2P4-P100oc In-Reply-To: <19970512212201.21957@ct.picker.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 12 May 1997, Randall Hopper wrote: > In case anyone's motherboard shoppin' for a multimedia system, you > should give the ASUS P55T2P4 a look (Triton 2 chipset). Several days ago, > I swapped one of these under my P100 in place of my old P55TP4XE Triton 1 > (for the fun of it; you know, the hobby thing; old one was working just > fine). To continue the Asus plug mode, I'm running one with a P133 at standard settings and it works nicely. I found the overclocking guide for this board the other day, and if I get my confidence up that I won't overheat the whole works, I might try it :) (I think it was at sysdoc.pair.com) (This is after two days of ~80 degree F heat) > Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon May 12 23:07:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA02721 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 12 May 1997 23:07:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fyeung5 (netific.vip.best.com [205.149.182.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA02716 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 23:07:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fyeung8.netific.com (fyeung8.netific.com [204.238.125.8]) by fyeung5 (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id BAA23905; Mon, 12 May 1997 01:05:43 -0700 Received: by fyeung8.netific.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA28148; Mon, 12 May 1997 12:58:16 -0700 Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 12:58:16 -0700 From: fyeung@fyeung8.netific.com (Francis Yeung) Message-Id: <9705121958.AA28148@fyeung8.netific.com> To: jakob@teligent.se, dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu Subject: Re: Vic and Quickcam Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greetings Does anyone have the NV-qcam - CuSeeMe conferencing working with the BSDI Reflector ? Accordingly, I am supposed to use multicast for Reflector and the NV-qcam but I still don't see any video. Maybe I did something fundamentally wrong. I have the nv-qcam and the reflector in a FreeBSD machine and try to conference with a Win95 running CuSeeMe over the Net. Accordingly, nv-qcam is not ready for point to point CuSeeMe type of conferencing but with the reflector, I should be able to fake it. Maybe I am wrong. Thank you for your help. Francis p.s. I can't use vic because it is not CuSeeME compatible. > From root@fyeung25.netific.com Mon May 12 12:18 PDT 1997 > Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 09:45:35 -0700 (PDT) > From: Doug White > X-Sender: dwhite@localhost > To: Jakob Alvermark > Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: Vic and Quickcam > Mime-Version: 1.0 > X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > On Mon, 12 May 1997, Jakob Alvermark wrote: > > > Ok, I see.. Well.. I tried now with programs i found on your machine, > > vic-qcam and nv-qcam, and it works! The two machines I connect are on the > > same ethernet, same subnet, so I think mrouted shouldn't be needed in > > this case. One thing that might come up is running multicast applications > > between our two offices. The two offices are connected via a 128Kb/s > > link, and bridges. I assume the bridges work on "ethernet"-level, so it > > shold work. Well, I have to find out that myself. :-) > > Cool. Yes, if your machines are onthe same subnet then multicast will > work without any further configuration. You either need to reconfigure y > our routers or use mrouted if you want to get to other places in your LAN > that are behind routers. > > Doug White | University of Oregon > Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant > http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major > > > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon May 12 23:48:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA04584 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 12 May 1997 23:48:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hydrogen.nike.efn.org (metriclient-4.uoregon.edu [128.223.172.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA04577 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 23:48:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jmg@localhost) by hydrogen.nike.efn.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA11931; Mon, 12 May 1997 23:48:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <19970512234846.10968@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 23:48:46 -0700 From: John-Mark Gurney To: Amancio Hasty Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bt848 on P55T2P4-P100oc References: <19970512221323.53520@ct.picker.com> <199705130224.TAA14764@rah.star-gate.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: <199705130224.TAA14764@rah.star-gate.com>; from Amancio Hasty on Mon, May 12, 1997 at 07:24:45PM -0700 Reply-To: John-Mark Gurney Organization: Cu Networking X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE i386 X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 EC EF F8 AE ED A7 31 96 7A 22 B3 D8 56 36 F4 X-Files: The truth is out there X-URL: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Amancio Hasty scribbled this message on May 12: > Could any web techie take over Randall's request? I guess I could take it over... I have a nice guest book setup that would take about 5 minutes to convert to this style of format... :) is all the fields that Randall listed all that is neccessary? any other fields? (I didn't read over the list very closely...) ttyl... > The end product should be placed in the Bt848 Web Page. [...] > > As for form fields, here's a first stab (focusing on multimedia): > > > > HARDWARE: > > Motherboard: (Make/Model/Vers) > > MB Chipset: > > CPU: (Make & speed) > > Overclocks tested: (CPU/Mem/PCI) > > System Mem: (Type/Speed) > > Video Card: (Make/Model, Mem/MemType) > > TV Card: (Make/Model) [anything else ?] > > Sound Card: (Make/Model) is this one really needed?? I guess it would be nice to track other hardware... but I thought this was more orintated to Bt848 then generic hardware... same with the next one... > > Other Cards: > > Comments: > > > > SOFTWARE: > > XFree Vers: > > Color depths tested: looks good too me... -- John-Mark Cu Networking Modem/FAX: +1 541 683 6954 Live in Peace, destroy Micro$oft, support free software, run FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue May 13 00:00:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA05011 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 00:00:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA05005 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 00:00:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA16808; Tue, 13 May 1997 00:00:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705130700.AAA16808@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: John-Mark Gurney cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bt848 on P55T2P4-P100oc In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 12 May 1997 23:48:46 PDT." <19970512234846.10968@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 00:00:08 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The list is fine you have to remember that people who don't know anything about multimedia will be using the card and we do need to warn people that for optimal performance they need a PCI card such as an S3 968 VRAM which XFree86 provides DGA support. The same goes for the sound cards and other things such as disks which are going to be more important later on once fxtv supports video capture streams. Tnks! Amancio >From The Desk Of John-Mark Gurney : > Amancio Hasty scribbled this message on May 12: > > Could any web techie take over Randall's request? > > I guess I could take it over... I have a nice guest book setup that > would take about 5 minutes to convert to this style of format... :) > > is all the fields that Randall listed all that is neccessary? any > other fields? (I didn't read over the list very closely...) > > ttyl... > > > The end product should be placed in the Bt848 Web Page. > > [...] > > > > As for form fields, here's a first stab (focusing on multimedia): > > > > > > HARDWARE: > > > Motherboard: (Make/Model/Vers) > > > MB Chipset: > > > CPU: (Make & speed) > > > Overclocks tested: (CPU/Mem/PCI) > > > System Mem: (Type/Speed) > > > Video Card: (Make/Model, Mem/MemType) > > > TV Card: (Make/Model) [anything else ?] > > > Sound Card: (Make/Model) > > is this one really needed?? I guess it would be nice to track other > hardware... but I thought this was more orintated to Bt848 then generic > hardware... same with the next one... > > > > Other Cards: > > > Comments: > > > > > > SOFTWARE: > > > XFree Vers: > > > Color depths tested: > > looks good too me... > > -- > John-Mark > Cu Networking Modem/FAX: +1 541 683 6954 > > Live in Peace, destroy Micro$oft, support free software, run FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue May 13 08:18:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA24511 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 08:18:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from teligent.se (iservern.teligent.se [194.17.198.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA24502 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 08:18:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from datorn.teligent.se (datorn.teligent.se [192.168.2.31]) by teligent.se (8.7/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA25174; Tue, 13 May 1997 17:16:59 +0200 Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 17:14:56 +0200 (MET DST) From: Jakob Alvermark To: Doug White cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Vic and Quickcam In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id IAA24505 Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 12 May 1997, Doug White wrote: > > Is there any version of vic for Windows95 that supports Connectix Quickcam? > > Please, anybody! I would be most grateful if some could tell me if it > > exists, and where I could find it. > > You should feel lucky that vic even works on win95 without kiling it :) > If you ned transmit badly, you may be more interested in Precept's IP/TV. > It costs money but it does do a pretty decent job. Our Computing Center > is going ga-ga over it a the moment. Ok, what is IP/TV? How much does it cost? Does it run on both FreeBSD and Windows? Where can I get more information? Thanks, Jakob Alvermark ------------------------------------------------------- Teligent AB, P.O. Box 213, S-149 23 Nynäshamn, Sweden Telephone +46-(0)8 520 660 00 * Fax +46-(0)8 520 193 36 Direct +46-(0)8 520 660 32 * GSM +46-(0)70 792 16 57 From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue May 13 10:33:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA01461 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 10:33:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA01454 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 10:33:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA08753; Tue, 13 May 1997 10:33:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 10:33:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White X-Sender: dwhite@localhost Reply-To: Doug White To: Jakob Alvermark cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Vic and Quickcam In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 13 May 1997, Jakob Alvermark wrote: > Ok, what is IP/TV? How much does it cost? Does it run on both FreeBSD and > Windows? Where can I get more information? IP/TV is multicast for Win95 that works, basically :) I don't know a whole lot about it, but you can find more at www.precept.com I bet. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue May 13 11:23:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA04237 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 11:23:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA04229; Tue, 13 May 1997 11:23:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Tue, 13 May 1997 14:22:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com ([144.54.57.34]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA23114; Tue, 13 May 97 14:22:07 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA02919; Tue, 13 May 1997 14:21:21 -0400 Message-Id: <19970513142120.35779@ct.picker.com> Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 14:21:20 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Justen Stepka Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Video input device References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: ; from Justen Stepka on Fri, May 02, 1997 at 04:27:50PM -0500 Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Justen Stepka: |This is to anyone that has experience working with video input devices for |2.1.6+. I currently have the USRobitics camra that uses a PCI video media |card. I've read the 'meteor' man page and have compiled the kernel with |all the options needed, but I'm having troubles finding software that will |work with this device. NV needs a port called 'tk' which is out of date |and the plain port 'tcl' which is also out of date. Another program that |I've tried is MMCC which can't run; The FAQ talks about this but the |information in there is incorrect. | |Is there anything that I'm missing or imformation that could be shared to |point me into the correct direction. (Cross-posting this to the multimedia list since most folks that can help you monitor there). Can someone with a meteor offer some advice? Randall From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue May 13 14:05:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA14336 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 14:05:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from proto.math.ucdavis.edu (bill@proto.math.ucdavis.edu [128.120.22.112]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA14326 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 14:05:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bill@localhost) by proto.math.ucdavis.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA26152; Tue, 13 May 1997 14:05:06 -0700 From: Bill Broadley Message-Id: <199705132105.OAA26152@proto.math.ucdavis.edu> Subject: Video capture To: multimedia@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 14:05:05 -0700 (PDT) Cc: bill@proto.math.ucdavis.edu (Bill Broadley) Content-Type: text Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm looking for a good video capture board. I have a few questions... Is the matrox driver the most developed? Current plan is to buy video capture to handle HI-8 video camera output for various purposes including mbone. Should the: http://www.omt.com/dir/seqps.html work well? Be worth $300.00? (Sequence - P1S OmniMedia Technology, Inc.) I tried to buy a matrox meteor from matrox they said no direct sales. From enorex after 5 weeks they say that can't sell it to us. From some other company that won't call use back. Any suggestions appreciated, I search my multimedia archive (2400 messages) for matrox/clone and similiar. I'll summarize if prefered... -- Bill Broadley Bill@math.ucdavis.edu UCD Math Sys-Admin From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue May 13 15:02:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA19285 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 15:02:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from plains.nodak.edu (tinguely@plains.NoDak.edu [134.129.111.64]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA19271 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 15:02:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tinguely@localhost) by plains.nodak.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA23337; Tue, 13 May 1997 17:02:26 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 17:02:26 -0500 (CDT) From: Mark Tinguely Message-Id: <199705132202.RAA23337@plains.nodak.edu> To: bill@proto.math.ucdavis.edu, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Video capture Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Is the matrox driver the most developed? the meteor and clones are good cards but a lot of new activity has been on the BT848 based cards because a PCI bug in the Phillips chipset used in the Meteor will not allow the Meteor and clone to work in Pentium Pro machines. For information on the BT848 driver and cards, see: http://www.freebsd.org/~fsmp/HomeAuto/Bt848.html --mark. From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue May 13 17:42:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA28748 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 17:42:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA28742; Tue, 13 May 1997 17:42:07 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Message-Id: <199705140042.RAA28742@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Bt848 on P55T2P4-P100oc To: hasty@rah.star-gate.com (Amancio Hasty) Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 17:42:07 -0700 (PDT) Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199705130224.TAA14764@rah.star-gate.com> from "Amancio Hasty" at May 12, 97 07:24:45 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk why limit this to bt848? a similar database for smp and for motherboards/systems ingeneral would be a great contribution to freebsd please do not limit this to bt848 we can host it at freebsd.org once it is ready jmb Amancio Hasty wrote: > > Could any web techie take over Randall's request? > The end product should be placed in the Bt848 Web Page. > > Tnks, > Amancio > > > > >From The Desk Of Randall Hopper : > > Amancio Hasty: > > |This is useful information . I think that what we ought to do is collect > > |a few system configurations and publish them in the Bt848 page. > > > > Sounds like a good idea. I'm sure it'd help the many monitors of our list > > with their future purchases. > > > > We need a thorough form for folks to fill in before we start gathering > > data. Could easily be an HTML form on the multimedia page (would save list > > traffic and subsequent collation), and could then be more easily massaged > > into an HTML table, also for web posting/browsing. > > > > As for form fields, here's a first stab (focusing on multimedia): > > > > HARDWARE: > > Motherboard: (Make/Model/Vers) > > MB Chipset: > > CPU: (Make & speed) > > Overclocks tested: (CPU/Mem/PCI) > > System Mem: (Type/Speed) > > Video Card: (Make/Model, Mem/MemType) > > TV Card: (Make/Model) [anything else ?] > > Sound Card: (Make/Model) > > Other Cards: > > Comments: > > > > SOFTWARE: > > XFree Vers: > > Color depths tested: > > > > > > Randall > > > > > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue May 13 18:12:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA00522 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 18:12:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA00501; Tue, 13 May 1997 18:12:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA00941; Tue, 13 May 1997 18:12:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705140112.SAA00941@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: "Jonathan M. Bresler" cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bt848 on P55T2P4-P100oc In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 13 May 1997 17:42:07 PDT." <199705140042.RAA28742@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 18:12:46 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Nope this is specifically for video processing and yes we do need such a document. You see my P100 can process video to my display adapter such as fast as my PPRO 200. As for FreeBSD it is more appropriate to document the systems based on something like world stones, cool comm gear , etc.. We really ought to beat on the hackers or maybe the current mailing list for such a document. I am saying -current because those hackers probably tend to do more make worlds . If people don't volunteer for such a simple task which many in the -current list do anyhow, then we will simply not have such a document. my system or relevant parts: OS: FreeBSD 3.0 current CPU : PPRO 200mhz 256k 48MB of memory (60ns dram). Motherboard : ASUS P/I- XP6NP5 ATX form factor PCI chipset: : Intel 82440FX (Natoma) graphic adapater: Diamond S3 968 4MB VRAM video capture : Wincast/tv dbx stereo sound : gus pnp pro monitor : Nano F550i 17 inch fxtv works great in PCI to PCI mode 15, 16, 32 bit color depth. I added fxtv to my fvwm95 "utilities" pop menu so it is pretty easy to pop a tv window . Tnks, Amancio >From The Desk Of "Jonathan M. Bresler" : > why limit this to bt848? > a similar database for smp > and for motherboards/systems ingeneral would be a great > contribution to freebsd > > please do not limit this to bt848 > > we can host it at freebsd.org once it is ready > > jmb > > Amancio Hasty wrote: > > > > Could any web techie take over Randall's request? > > The end product should be placed in the Bt848 Web Page. > > > > Tnks, > > Amancio > > > > > > > > >From The Desk Of Randall Hopper : > > > Amancio Hasty: > > > |This is useful information . I think that what we ought to do is collec t > > > |a few system configurations and publish them in the Bt848 page. > > > > > > Sounds like a good idea. I'm sure it'd help the many monitors of our lis t > > > with their future purchases. > > > > > > We need a thorough form for folks to fill in before we start gathering > > > data. Could easily be an HTML form on the multimedia page (would save li st > > > traffic and subsequent collation), and could then be more easily massaged > > > into an HTML table, also for web posting/browsing. > > > > > > As for form fields, here's a first stab (focusing on multimedia): > > > > > > HARDWARE: > > > Motherboard: (Make/Model/Vers) > > > MB Chipset: > > > CPU: (Make & speed) > > > Overclocks tested: (CPU/Mem/PCI) > > > System Mem: (Type/Speed) > > > Video Card: (Make/Model, Mem/MemType) > > > TV Card: (Make/Model) [anything else ?] > > > Sound Card: (Make/Model) > > > Other Cards: > > > Comments: > > > > > > SOFTWARE: > > > XFree Vers: > > > Color depths tested: > > > > > > > > > Randall > > > > > > > > > > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue May 13 18:27:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA01509 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 18:27:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aries.bb.cc.wa.us ([208.8.136.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA01496; Tue, 13 May 1997 18:27:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (chris@localhost) by aries.bb.cc.wa.us (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id SAA20183; Tue, 13 May 1997 18:21:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 18:21:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Coleman Reply-To: Chris Coleman To: "Jonathan M. Bresler" cc: Amancio Hasty , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: FreeBSD Web DATABASE(WAS Re: Bt848 on P55T2P4-P100oc) In-Reply-To: <199705140042.RAA28742@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Ok, a database for FreeBSD hardware that is contributed by users? Is that what we are after. Would a simple PERL cgi script that say, read the information out of the form and appended the specs and a little paragraph from the user on to the correct page work? Or are we wanting something more robust? BTW I have also been toying with the idea of putting up a database of people who are working on projects into a Web page. Just to kind of advertise the projects and let people know who is interested and working. Just an Idea. Christopher J. Coleman (chris@aries.bb.cc.wa.us) Computer Support Technician I (509)-766-8873 Big Bend Community College Internet Instructor FreeBSD Book Project: http://vinyl.quickweb.com/~chrisc/book.html Disclaimer: Even Though it has My Name on it, Doesn't mean I said it. From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue May 13 20:03:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA10273 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 20:03:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hydrogen.nike.efn.org (metriclient-10.uoregon.edu [128.223.172.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA10267; Tue, 13 May 1997 20:03:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jmg@localhost) by hydrogen.nike.efn.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA15852; Tue, 13 May 1997 20:03:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <19970513200350.46757@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 20:03:50 -0700 From: John-Mark Gurney To: Chris Coleman Cc: "Jonathan M. Bresler" , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD Web DATABASE(WAS Re: Bt848 on P55T2P4-P100oc) References: <199705140042.RAA28742@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: ; from Chris Coleman on Tue, May 13, 1997 at 06:21:06PM -0700 Reply-To: John-Mark Gurney Organization: Cu Networking X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE i386 X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 EC EF F8 AE ED A7 31 96 7A 22 B3 D8 56 36 F4 X-Files: The truth is out there X-URL: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Chris Coleman scribbled this message on May 13: > Ok, a database for FreeBSD hardware that is contributed by users? Is that > what we are after. Would a simple PERL cgi script that say, read the > information out of the form and appended the specs and a little paragraph > from the user on to the correct page work? Or are we wanting something > more robust? well.. I have a guestbook program that all I need to do is modify then char *fields[], to get more "fields" on the guestbook.. and my wrapping around is seperated (intro and ending), and the body is iterated for each submitted entry... I've finished the source changes (took a few minutes to type 'em in over laggy connection to freefall..) now just to modify the wrapping entries... which I'm about to begin on now... > BTW I have also been toying with the idea of putting up a database of > people who are working on projects into a Web page. Just to kind of > advertise the projects and let people know who is interested and working. > Just an Idea. hmmm... probably wouldn't be hard to modify mine to do that... only problem with this is that delete will take O(n) time as my database for storage is a null delmited fields... should have it done in about an hour or so... oh... all of this is based on my cgiparse lib... it makes writing something like this (in C) about a 50 line program... ttyl... -- John-Mark Cu Networking Modem/FAX: +1 541 683 6954 Live in Peace, destroy Micro$oft, support free software, run FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue May 13 20:44:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA12120 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 20:44:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA12115 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 20:43:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA01937; Tue, 13 May 1997 20:44:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705140344.UAA01937@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Mark Tinguely cc: bill@proto.math.ucdavis.edu, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Video capture In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 13 May 1997 17:02:26 CDT." <199705132202.RAA23337@plains.nodak.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 20:44:03 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Also the Bt848 cards are cheap . I bought my Wincast/TV dbx stereo for $120 8) The meteor because it does not require a risc program to drive the dma crontroller probably produces video better however the high costs of the cards makes them a little unattractive in lieu of cheap bt848 cards. Cheers, Amancio >From The Desk Of Mark Tinguely : > > Is the matrox driver the most developed? > > the meteor and clones are good cards but a lot of new activity has been > on the BT848 based cards because a PCI bug in the Phillips chipset used > in the Meteor will not allow the Meteor and clone to work in Pentium Pro > machines. For information on the BT848 driver and cards, see: > > http://www.freebsd.org/~fsmp/HomeAuto/Bt848.html > > --mark. From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue May 13 23:18:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA26224 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 23:18:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hydrogen.nike.efn.org (metriclient-10.uoregon.edu [128.223.172.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA26218; Tue, 13 May 1997 23:18:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jmg@localhost) by hydrogen.nike.efn.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA16330; Tue, 13 May 1997 23:18:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <19970513231847.36016@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 23:18:47 -0700 From: John-Mark Gurney To: Chris Coleman Cc: "Jonathan M. Bresler" , Amancio Hasty , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD Web DATABASE(WAS Re: Bt848 on P55T2P4-P100oc) References: <199705140042.RAA28742@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: ; from Chris Coleman on Tue, May 13, 1997 at 06:21:06PM -0700 Reply-To: John-Mark Gurney Organization: Cu Networking X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE i386 X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 EC EF F8 AE ED A7 31 96 7A 22 B3 D8 56 36 F4 X-Files: The truth is out there X-URL: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk http://www.freebsd.org/~jmg/cgi-bin/bt848.cgi well... the hardware page is ready for comments... if you would like to submit a better form, grab intro, book, or ending from the same directory and mail me a better one.. :) ttyl... -- John-Mark Cu Networking Modem/FAX: +1 541 683 6954 Live in Peace, destroy Micro$oft, support free software, run FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed May 14 00:04:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA07847 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 00:04:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA07822; Wed, 14 May 1997 00:04:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA03036; Wed, 14 May 1997 00:04:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705140704.AAA03036@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: John-Mark Gurney cc: Chris Coleman , "Jonathan M. Bresler" , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD Web DATABASE(WAS Re: Bt848 on P55T2P4-P100oc) In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 13 May 1997 23:18:47 PDT." <19970513231847.36016@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 00:04:30 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Please add the following categories: 1. Speakers ( I got a pair of Bose MediaMate which sound really good and a nice feature is that I can connect my headphones to them for private listening . is not big deal however is easy to switch back and forth.) 2. Monitors (My Nanao F550i is kind of dull as it is so watching tv is not that great ;however, on my Sony 15sx monitor tv comes out really good) 3. PCI chipset: For instance, your VIA chipset is not compatible with the Bt848. >From The Desk Of John-Mark Gurney : > http://www.freebsd.org/~jmg/cgi-bin/bt848.cgi > > well... the hardware page is ready for comments... if you would like to > submit a better form, grab intro, book, or ending from the same directory > and mail me a better one.. :) > > ttyl... > > -- > John-Mark > Cu Networking Modem/FAX: +1 541 683 6954 > > Live in Peace, destroy Micro$oft, support free software, run FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed May 14 00:48:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA14697 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 00:48:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hydrogen.nike.efn.org (metriclient-10.uoregon.edu [128.223.172.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA14690; Wed, 14 May 1997 00:48:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jmg@localhost) by hydrogen.nike.efn.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA16569; Wed, 14 May 1997 00:48:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <19970514004828.15132@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 00:48:28 -0700 From: John-Mark Gurney To: Amancio Hasty Cc: Chris Coleman , "Jonathan M. Bresler" , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD Web DATABASE(WAS Re: Bt848 on P55T2P4-P100oc) References: <19970513231847.36016@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> <199705140704.AAA03036@rah.star-gate.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: <199705140704.AAA03036@rah.star-gate.com>; from Amancio Hasty on Wed, May 14, 1997 at 12:04:30AM -0700 Reply-To: John-Mark Gurney Organization: Cu Networking X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE i386 X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 EC EF F8 AE ED A7 31 96 7A 22 B3 D8 56 36 F4 X-Files: The truth is out there X-URL: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Amancio Hasty scribbled this message on May 14: > Please add the following categories: > 1. Speakers ( I got a pair of Bose MediaMate which sound really good and a nice > feature is that I can connect my headphones to them for private > listening . is not big deal however is easy to switch back and > forth.) > > 2. Monitors (My Nanao F550i is kind of dull as it is so watching tv is > not that great ;however, on my Sony 15sx monitor tv comes out > really good) these two are now added... you will need to resubmit as the fields have changed and the data format isn't compatible... > 3. PCI chipset: For instance, your VIA chipset is not compatible with the > Bt848. heh... I had this in the program.. just didn't add it to the form.. :) > >From The Desk Of John-Mark Gurney : > > http://www.freebsd.org/~jmg/cgi-bin/bt848.cgi > > > > well... the hardware page is ready for comments... if you would like to > > submit a better form, grab intro, book, or ending from the same directory > > and mail me a better one.. :) -- John-Mark Cu Networking Modem/FAX: +1 541 683 6954 Live in Peace, destroy Micro$oft, support free software, run FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed May 14 07:59:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA12785 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 07:59:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stevenson.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (stevenson144.cogsci.ed.ac.uk [129.215.144.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA12756 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 07:59:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from richard@localhost) by stevenson.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA02299; Wed, 14 May 1997 15:57:56 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 15:57:56 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <199705141457.PAA02299@stevenson.cogsci.ed.ac.uk> From: Richard Tobin Subject: Re: FreeBSD Web DATABASE(WAS Re: Bt848 on P55T2P4-P100oc) To: John-Mark Gurney In-Reply-To: John-Mark Gurney's message of Tue, 13 May 1997 23:18:47 -0700 Organization: just say no Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > well... the hardware page is ready for comments... The video card section should include processor, type & amount of memory. For example, I have a no-brand S3 Virge with 2MB EDO RAM. -- Richard From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed May 14 09:08:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA16941 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 09:08:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stevenson.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (stevenson144.cogsci.ed.ac.uk [129.215.144.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA16596 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 09:02:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from richard@localhost) by stevenson.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA03149; Wed, 14 May 1997 16:57:17 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 16:57:17 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <199705141557.QAA03149@stevenson.cogsci.ed.ac.uk> From: Richard Tobin Subject: Re: FreeBSD Web DATABASE(WAS Re: Bt848 on P55T2P4-P100oc) To: Bernie Doehner In-Reply-To: Bernie Doehner's message of Wed, 14 May 1997 11:42:46 -0400 (EDT) Organization: just say no Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Hmm. Maybe I should have asked you before buying. I have a no-brand S3 > Virge card with 4MB EDO RAM and just ordered a mono Wincast/TV board. > Are you also using a Wincast board? I'm using Win/TV (that's the Euro version - teletext instead of intercast). > Any problems? Yes; it can't keep up with the frames at full (PAL) window size when the screen resolution is 1024x768. No problem at 800x600. Presumably the screen refresh is using too much of the video memory bandwidth, so reducing the refresh rate would also fix it, and you *may* not have so much problem with NTSC (640x480x30 instead of 768x576x25). [Presumably it accesses 4MB in wider chunks than 2MB, otherwise it wouldn't be able be display at all!] I guess this is a problem with single-ported video memory in general. -- Richard From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed May 14 09:56:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA20060 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 09:56:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA20053 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 09:56:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id SAA26588; Wed, 14 May 1997 18:07:39 +0200 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199705141607.SAA26588@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Teletext and intercast To: richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 18:07:39 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: bad@uhf.wireless.net, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199705141557.QAA03149@stevenson.cogsci.ed.ac.uk> from "Richard Tobin" at May 14, 97 04:56:58 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I'm using Win/TV (that's the Euro version - teletext instead of intercast). I can't swear, but in the Hauppauge Win/TV, the teletext decoder is a piece of hardware (two chips from Philips), and the associated documentation says that intercast decoding is done in software. So, at most you are missing some piece of software, but you have the same, or more, hardware. For the records, you can do teletext decoding in software as well (there is even some code for this on my home page) and when/if the intercast data format specs are available we can surely modify my code for this as well. At this point I really need a copy of some of the Bt848 pages related to sync management (because the driver tends to loose sync when the signal is weak, and the free-run frequency seems really 60Hz...) and to Vertical Blanking Interval (VBI) acquisition (the video rows carrying teletext and intercast info). Brooktree ignored my numerous requests by fax and email... can some good soul scan the relevant pages and let me have them ? Cheers Luigi -----------------------------+-------------------------------------- Luigi Rizzo | Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione email: luigi@iet.unipi.it | Universita' di Pisa tel: +39-50-568533 | via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) fax: +39-50-568522 | http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ _____________________________|______________________________________ From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed May 14 10:22:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA21816 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 10:22:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from grolsch.cs.ubc.ca (grolsch.cs.ubc.ca [142.103.6.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA21811 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 10:22:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cascade.cs.ubc.ca (cascade.cs.ubc.ca [142.103.7.7]) by grolsch.cs.ubc.ca (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id KAA03573 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 10:22:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mkerr@localhost) by cascade.cs.ubc.ca (8.8.5/8.6.12) id KAA24057 for multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 14 May 1997 10:22:22 -0700 (PDT) From: "Michael Kerr" Message-Id: <9705141022.ZM24055@cascade.cs.ubc.ca> Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 10:22:21 -0700 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.1 10apr95) To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE and full duplex sound drivers for Gravis MAX Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have been trying to find the sound source files for 2.2.1 that will support my gravis ultrasound MAX with full duplex audio. All the tools for mbone work fine ie vat, sdr, etc. Just need the sound working... Thankyou for any help. Michael Kerr From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed May 14 10:26:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA22102 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 10:26:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stevenson.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (stevenson144.cogsci.ed.ac.uk [129.215.144.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA22094 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 10:26:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pitcairn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (pitcairn [129.215.197.19]) by stevenson.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA04273; Wed, 14 May 1997 18:26:08 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 18:26:07 +0100 Message-Id: <16608.199705141726@pitcairn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk> From: Richard Tobin Subject: Re: Teletext and intercast To: Luigi Rizzo In-Reply-To: Luigi Rizzo's message of Wed, 14 May 1997 18:07:39 +0200 (MET DST) Organization: just say no Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I can't swear, but in the Hauppauge Win/TV, the teletext decoder is a > piece of hardware (two chips from Philips) Yes. > and the associated > documentation says that intercast decoding is done in software. Yes. Potentially interesting, but we don't have Intercast here anyway (does anywhere outside the US?) > At this point I really need a copy of some of the Bt848 pages Amancio put some up for ftp for me a few weeks ago, but I think I deleted them when I got the paper manual - maybe Amancio still has them? Incidentally, I emailed Brooktree in the US and they must have contacted their UK distributor, since it eventually came from a UK company called TDC after I'd given up hope. So maybe you'll get them eventually. If you want to try TDC for the specs, their phone number is +44 1256 332800 or fax ... 332810. -- Richard From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed May 14 10:43:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA23078 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 10:43:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bigpuppy.newell.arlington.va.us (bigpuppy.newell.arlington.va.us [208.218.26.242]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA23073 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 10:43:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (mnewell@localhost) by bigpuppy.newell.arlington.va.us (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA28508; Wed, 14 May 1997 13:42:54 -0400 Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 13:42:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Newell To: Michael Kerr cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE and full duplex sound drivers for Gravis MAX In-Reply-To: <9705141022.ZM24055@cascade.cs.ubc.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk You need to replace the drivers with new ones; I got them from rah.star-gate.com; file "guspnp6.tar.gz". See "http://rah.star-gate.com" for details. BTW, instructions are contained in the file; which is unforatunte, 'cause to get to them you have to unpack the file... :-( But installation is pretty simple: cd / mv /sys/i386/isa/sound /sys/i386/isa/sound.old tar xzf guspnp6.tar.gz worked for me... :-) Mike On Wed, 14 May 1997, Michael Kerr wrote: mkerr> Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 10:22:21 -0700 mkerr> From: Michael Kerr mkerr> To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG mkerr> Subject: FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE and full duplex sound drivers for Gravis MAX mkerr> mkerr> I have been trying to find the sound source files for 2.2.1 that will support mkerr> my mkerr> gravis ultrasound MAX with full duplex audio. All the tools for mbone work mkerr> fine ie vat, sdr, etc. Just need the sound working... mkerr> mkerr> Thankyou for any help. mkerr> mkerr> Michael Kerr mkerr> mkerr> Much obliged, Mike +--------------------------------------+------------------------------------+ | Mike Newell | The opinions expressed herein | | Affiliation: | are mine. You can take them or | | Address: | leave them. Flames to /dev/null. | +--------------------------------------+------------------------------------+ | Mike@Newell.arlington.va.us | http://www.newell.arlington.va.us | +--------------------------------------+------------------------------------+ | "Peace. It's wonderful!" Father Divine. | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed May 14 10:54:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA23754 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 10:54:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA23749 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 10:54:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id TAA26720; Wed, 14 May 1997 19:16:00 +0200 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199705141716.TAA26720@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: Teletext and intercast To: richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 19:15:59 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <16608.199705141726@pitcairn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk> from "Richard Tobin" at May 14, 97 06:25:48 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > At this point I really need a copy of some of the Bt848 pages Whoops... the Bt848 manual is on the Brooktree web server now (http://www.brooktree.com) for those interested... Cheers Luigi -----------------------------+-------------------------------------- Luigi Rizzo | Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione email: luigi@iet.unipi.it | Universita' di Pisa tel: +39-50-568533 | via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) fax: +39-50-568522 | http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ _____________________________|______________________________________ From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed May 14 11:36:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA26469 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 11:36:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (root@agora.rdrop.com [199.2.210.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA26464 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 11:36:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from plains.nodak.edu (tinguely@plains.NoDak.edu [134.129.111.64]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA15640 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 11:10:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tinguely@localhost) by plains.nodak.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA08149; Wed, 14 May 1997 13:10:09 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 13:10:09 -0500 (CDT) From: Mark Tinguely Message-Id: <199705141810.NAA08149@plains.nodak.edu> To: mkerr@cs.ubc.ca, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE and full duplex sound drivers for Gravis MAX Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I have been trying to find the sound source files for 2.2.1 that will support > my > gravis ultrasound MAX with full duplex audio. All the tools for mbone work > fine ie vat, sdr, etc. Just need the sound working... get the GUS PnP support from ftp://rah.star-gate.com/guspnp6.tar.gz and then apply the follwing patch. Note: this hack breaks GUS PnP support, but fixes GUS and GUS MAX support. sys/i386/isa/sound/gus_wave.c: *** gus_wave.c.orig Tue Nov 5 12:56:04 1996 --- gus_wave.c Thu May 8 12:53:06 1997 *************** *** 4830,4835 **** --- 4830,4836 ---- if (gus_pnp_found[i] != 0 && gus_pnp_found[i] == hw_config->io_base) gus_pnp_seen = 1; } + /* XXX */ gus_pnp_seen = 0; /* XXX */ gus_irq = irq; gus_dma = dma; gus_dma2 = dma2; --mark. From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed May 14 11:52:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA27514 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 11:52:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailbag.jf.intel.com (mailbag.jf.intel.com [134.134.248.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA27508 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 11:52:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aahz.jf.intel.com (aahz.jf.intel.com [192.198.161.2]) by mailbag.jf.intel.com (8.8.5/8.8.4) with SMTP id LAA21091; Wed, 14 May 1997 11:53:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by aahz.jf.intel.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #13) id m0wRj99-000hy2C; Wed, 14 May 97 11:51 PDT Message-Id: From: batie@aahz.jf.intel.com (Alan Batie) Subject: Re: Teletext and intercast To: richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 11:51:31 -0700 (PDT) Cc: luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <16608.199705141726@pitcairn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk> from "Richard Tobin" at May 14, 97 06:26:07 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Potentially interesting, but we don't have Intercast here anyway (does > anywhere outside the US?) I don't have any connection with them, other than that they work in the same campus, and I suspect this was a hypothetical question, but since I know it's being worked on, I thought I'd toss a quick response out... >From the Intercast FAQ at http://www.intercast.org/info/info08.htm : Q5. Will the Intercast medium be available outside of the USA? What are the plans for implementing Intercast technology on the PAL broadcast standard? Initially, Intel Intercast technology will be developed and deployed in the United States and is based on the NTSC broadcast standard. PAL is expected to be supported by the end of 1997. Differing TV standards and government regulations in various countries will have to be addressed before the Intercast medium can be broadly deployed outside of the US. Intel is investigating the internationalization of the Intercast technology. -- Alan Batie ------ What goes up, must come down. batie@aahz.jf.intel.com \ / Ask any system administrator. +1 503-264-8844 (voice) \ / --unknown D0 D2 39 0E 02 34 D6 B4 \/ 5A 41 21 8F 23 5F 08 9D From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed May 14 12:12:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA28575 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 12:12:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (Ilsa.StevesCafe.com [205.168.119.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA28568 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 12:12:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA03454; Wed, 14 May 1997 13:11:39 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199705141911.NAA03454@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 From: Steve Passe To: Luigi Rizzo cc: richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin), multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Teletext and intercast In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 14 May 1997 19:15:59 +0200." <199705141716.TAA26720@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 13:11:38 -0600 Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, > > > At this point I really need a copy of some of the Bt848 pages > > Whoops... the Bt848 manual is on the Brooktree web server now > (http://www.brooktree.com) for those interested... specifically: http://www.brooktree.com/pdf/graphics/DATASHTS/l848_b.pdf I've added this link to the bt848 page. -- Steve Passe | powered by smp@csn.net | Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed May 14 13:27:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA02260 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 13:27:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA02246; Wed, 14 May 1997 13:27:01 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Message-Id: <199705142027.NAA02246@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Bt848 on P55T2P4-P100oc To: hasty@rah.star-gate.com (Amancio Hasty) Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 13:27:00 -0700 (PDT) Cc: jmb@FreeBSD.org, multimedia@FreeBSD.org, hackers@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199705140112.SAA00941@rah.star-gate.com> from "Amancio Hasty" at May 13, 97 06:12:46 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Amancio Hasty wrote: > > Nope this is specifically for video processing and yes we do need such > a document. You see my P100 can process video to my display adapter > such as fast as my PPRO 200. the document that you need is a subset of a larger document that FreeBSD needs. you need the subset related to video processing. cool. why not work on creating hte larger document and get the one that you need for free :) John_mark Gurney (?)? spoke of a web interfacefor collecting this information. adding a few more fields to the web interface creates the larger document. seems too easy for forego the little eatra work required. jmb From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed May 14 13:35:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA02936 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 13:35:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA02911; Wed, 14 May 1997 13:35:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA09642; Wed, 14 May 1997 13:35:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705142035.NAA09642@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: "Jonathan M. Bresler" cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bt848 on P55T2P4-P100oc In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 14 May 1997 13:27:00 PDT." <199705142027.NAA02246@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 13:35:11 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Fine, just take this up with John-Mark. For now , we should proceed forward with our original intent which is to provide relevant hardware information for the video / multimedia group. Regards, Amancio >From The Desk Of "Jonathan M. Bresler" : > Amancio Hasty wrote: > > > > Nope this is specifically for video processing and yes we do need such > > a document. You see my P100 can process video to my display adapter > > such as fast as my PPRO 200. > > the document that you need is a subset of a larger document > that FreeBSD needs. you need the subset related to > video processing. cool. why not work on creating hte larger > document and get the one that you need for free :) > > John_mark Gurney (?)? spoke of a web interfacefor collecting > this information. adding a few more fields to the web interface > creates the larger document. seems too easy for forego the > little eatra work required. > jmb > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed May 14 14:29:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA05557 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 14:29:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (root@agora.rdrop.com [199.2.210.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA05551 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 14:29:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA00586 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 14:29:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id WAA27038; Wed, 14 May 1997 22:47:50 +0200 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199705142047.WAA27038@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: Teletext and intercast To: batie@aahz.jf.intel.com (Alan Batie) Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 22:47:49 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Alan Batie" at May 14, 97 11:51:12 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Thanks, Alan, for posting this (I have read this and many other pages at the intercast site looking for technical specifications, but to no avail...) > >From the Intercast FAQ at http://www.intercast.org/info/info08.htm : > > Q5. Will the Intercast medium be available outside of the USA? > What are the plans for implementing Intercast technology on > the PAL broadcast standard? > > Initially, > Intel Intercast technology will be developed and deployed > in the United States and is based on the NTSC broadcast standard. > PAL is expected to be supported by the end of 1997. Differing > TV standards and government regulations in various countries > will have to be addressed before the Intercast medium can be > broadly deployed outside of the US. I think one should read between the lines... since here in europe we have Teletext almost everywhere since the early 80's, and at least in Italy (but I am sure in many many countries) major broadcast companies sell "pages" for commercial purpose (from advertising to software distribution), I have a hard time believing that there are technical or legal impedements to the deployment of something like intercast outside the US. Probably it's merely a question of whether or not there is a sufficiently large market to encourage companies to license the intercast approach as opposed to using public specifications such as Teletext, or proprietary encodings (which is what many are doing now). > Intel is investigating > the internationalization of the Intercast technology. ... As an aside: my TV unit (bought in 1992 but probably designed a couple of years before) has a browsing mode for teletext pages which is almost the same as Lynx, and when I bought the TV I had not seen yet a www browser! Intercast just adds some stronger FEC protection to data (teletext only has a very weak protection) so that graphics and HTML pages can be sent, and the use of a larger cache for "pages" (typical teletext decoders use a small SRAM as a cache, which can only hold a few (1..32) pages). Cheers Luigi -----------------------------+-------------------------------------- Luigi Rizzo | Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione email: luigi@iet.unipi.it | Universita' di Pisa tel: +39-50-568533 | via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) fax: +39-50-568522 | http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ _____________________________|______________________________________ From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed May 14 14:54:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA07061 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 14:54:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (Ilsa.StevesCafe.com [205.168.119.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA07042; Wed, 14 May 1997 14:54:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA03954; Wed, 14 May 1997 15:54:22 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199705142154.PAA03954@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 From: Steve Passe To: "Jonathan M. Bresler" cc: hasty@rah.star-gate.com (Amancio Hasty), multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bt848 on P55T2P4-P100oc In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 14 May 1997 13:27:00 PDT." <199705142027.NAA02246@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 15:54:22 -0600 Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, > the document that you need is a subset of a larger document > that FreeBSD needs. you need the subset related to > video processing. cool. why not work on creating hte larger > document and get the one that you need for free :) > > John_mark Gurney (?)? spoke of a web interfacefor collecting > this information. adding a few more fields to the web interface > creates the larger document. seems too easy for forego the > little eatra work required. SMP definately needs this tool. I was just going to wait till the the mm specific one was finished then grab & modify it. If someone wants to put the effort into a universal tool that would be great! -- Steve Passe | powered by smp@csn.net | Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed May 14 15:07:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA08720 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 15:07:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailbag.jf.intel.com (mailbag.jf.intel.com [134.134.248.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA08709 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 15:07:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aahz.jf.intel.com (aahz.jf.intel.com [192.198.161.2]) by mailbag.jf.intel.com (8.8.5/8.8.4) with SMTP id PAA01887; Wed, 14 May 1997 15:08:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by aahz.jf.intel.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #13) id m0wRmBq-000hy2C; Wed, 14 May 97 15:06 PDT Message-Id: From: batie@aahz.jf.intel.com (Alan Batie) Subject: Re: Teletext and intercast To: luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it (Luigi Rizzo) Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 15:06:30 -0700 (PDT) Cc: richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199705142047.WAA27038@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> from "Luigi Rizzo" at May 14, 97 10:47:49 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I have a hard time believing that there > are technical or legal impedements to the deployment of something > like intercast outside the US. Again, I'll disclaim any real knowledge of matters, but I've heard that the VBI market is getting crowded. While teletext has the advantage of being grandfathered, it wouldn't surprise me if new applications for it had to go through hoops to get space allocated, not to mention typical bureaucratic stuff (aren't a lot of the overseas tv stations government run?). You also have to worry about what other people are doing with it already (I've heard of at least one instance where they discovered that the hard way). -- Alan Batie ------ What goes up, must come down. batie@aahz.jf.intel.com \ / Ask any system administrator. +1 503-264-8844 (voice) \ / --unknown D0 D2 39 0E 02 34 D6 B4 \/ 5A 41 21 8F 23 5F 08 9D From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed May 14 18:09:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA19184 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 18:09:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from compaq.parker.boston.ma.us (bparker.ne.highway1.com [24.128.47.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA19174 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 18:09:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sparc (sparc [204.253.111.2]) by compaq.parker.boston.ma.us (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA32697 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 01:09:37 GMT Received: by sparc (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id VAA29229; Wed, 14 May 1997 21:09:35 -0400 Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 21:09:35 -0400 Message-Id: <199705150109.VAA29229@sparc> From: Brad Parker To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: questions about current bt848 code Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have a couple of questions about the current freebsd bt848 driver - why is BROOKTREE_PAGES so large? it seems like it should be, worst case, pal rgb (768*576*4)/4096 = 432. NTSC looks like (640*480*4)/4096=300 the "217*4" does not make sense to me... (I get the 217 - for 16 bit) - is bktr_read missing a call to "start_capture"? the "examples/single.c" program I have from my meteor days hangs in the read of a single frame... -brad From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed May 14 20:52:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA26445 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 20:52:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA26440 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 20:52:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA23946; Wed, 14 May 1997 20:52:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705150352.UAA23946@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Brad Parker cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: questions about current bt848 code In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 14 May 1997 21:09:35 EDT." <199705150109.VAA29229@sparc> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 20:52:31 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >From The Desk Of Brad Parker : > > I have a couple of questions about the current freebsd bt848 driver > > - why is BROOKTREE_PAGES so large? it seems like it should be, worst > case, pal rgb (768*576*4)/4096 = 432. NTSC looks like > (640*480*4)/4096=300 You can fine tune that value it was left large for the possibility of multiple frame captures which the card can do. > the "217*4" does not make sense to me... (I get the 217 - for 16 bit) > > - is bktr_read missing a call to "start_capture"? the "examples/single.c" > program I have from my meteor days hangs in the read of a single frame... Just debug , I have not had a chance to check bktr_read . Most of us use the ioctl interface. download dtv from ftp site for sample code if you like. Also you should be able to get vic going with very little problems Just use grabber-meteor.cc and change the reference to meteor0 to bktr0 or whatever bt848 device you have created. Regards, Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu May 15 02:15:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA09457 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 02:15:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mpress.com (mpress.com [208.138.29.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id CAA09449 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 02:15:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 14617 invoked by uid 100); 15 May 1997 09:15:12 -0000 Message-ID: <19970515021512.02494@mpress.com> Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 02:15:12 -0700 From: Brian Litzinger To: Alan Batie Cc: Luigi Rizzo , richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Teletext and intercast References: <199705142047.WAA27038@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: ; from Alan Batie on Wed, May 14, 1997 at 03:06:30PM -0700 Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On May 14, Alan Batie wrote: > > I have a hard time believing that there > > are technical or legal impedements to the deployment of something > > like intercast outside the US. > > Again, I'll disclaim any real knowledge of matters, but I've heard that > the VBI market is getting crowded. While teletext has the advantage of > being grandfathered, it wouldn't surprise me if new applications for it > had to go through hoops to get space allocated, not to mention typical > bureaucratic stuff (aren't a lot of the overseas tv stations government > run?). You also have to worry about what other people are doing with > it already (I've heard of at least one instance where they discovered > that the hard way). I'm the ex-CTO of International Teletext Corporation which later became Advanced Wiresless Inc, which later ceased operating because no one was interested in VBI encoded data. The major problem we had with the deployment of VBI services is shown in the following example: 1. Buy 3 line VBI right of way on HSN (home shopping network). 2. Broadcast stock data, internet stuff, email, etc via the 3 VBIs 3. Get 60K or so customers. 4. Have many people reporting troubles. 5. Find out that joe six-pack cable operator is stripping the VBI off HSN cuz he can. you explain to him the problem, and he says when are you going to send him a check for your use of his VBI. -- Brian Litzinger brian@mediacity.com From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu May 15 03:19:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA11825 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 03:19:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id DAA11820 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 03:19:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id LAA28027 for multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 15 May 1997 11:40:34 +0200 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199705150940.LAA28027@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: Teletext and intercast To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 11:40:34 +0200 (MET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > The major problem we had with the deployment of VBI services is > shown in the following example: ... > 5. Find out that joe six-pack cable operator is stripping the VBI > off HSN cuz he can. you explain to him the problem, and he says when > are you going to send him a check for your use of his VBI. This is clearly a problem in the contracts between you, HSN and the cable operator (CO). If the contract between CO and HSN allows the CO to strip off commercials from the HSN programs, (and ask money to the advertisers to reinsert them), and advertisers are not appropriately warned in their contract with HSN, they would immediately sue HSN. It seems to me the same exact situation. Nonetheless with wireless TV (not cable) this is not a problem. I don't know how cable is widespread in europe, but surely less than in the US. It wouldn't be a problem with Sat-TV either. Cheers Luigi -----------------------------+-------------------------------------- Luigi Rizzo | Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione email: luigi@iet.unipi.it | Universita' di Pisa tel: +39-50-568533 | via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) fax: +39-50-568522 | http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ _____________________________|______________________________________ From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu May 15 09:17:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA26608 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 09:17:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from uhf.wdc.net (uhf.4d.net [207.137.157.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA26602 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 09:17:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (bad@localhost) by uhf.wdc.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA01292 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 12:17:19 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 12:17:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Bernie Doehner To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: WinCast TV stereo (cheap) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi Gang (especialy lurkers on this list who might be buying a bt848 board soon): I just bought a WinCast/TV board from Microwarehouse and it just arrived. I specificaly ordered the mono version and was charge for only the mono version, BUT to my surprise I opened it and judging from the instruction manual and connectors on the flange (and the patch cable) it is indeed the stereo/dbx version!!! Your mileage may vary, but if one of you is about to buy one of these cards, I'd recommend you also order the mono card from Microwavehouse and hopefuly you too will get the stereo version! Bernie From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu May 15 09:36:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA27748 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 09:36:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA27699 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 09:36:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA09780; Thu, 15 May 1997 09:36:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705151636.JAA09780@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Bernie Doehner cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: WinCast TV stereo (cheap) In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 15 May 1997 12:17:17 EDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 09:36:02 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Curious , how much did you pay? Tnks, Amancio >From The Desk Of Bernie Doehner : > Hi Gang (especialy lurkers on this list who might be buying a bt848 > board soon): > > I just bought a WinCast/TV board from Microwarehouse and it just arrived. > > I specificaly ordered the mono version and was charge for only the mono > version, BUT to my surprise I opened it and judging from the instruction > manual and connectors on the flange (and the patch cable) it is indeed the > stereo/dbx version!!! > > Your mileage may vary, but if one of you is about to buy one of these > cards, I'd recommend you also order the mono card from Microwavehouse and > hopefuly you too will get the stereo version! > > Bernie > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu May 15 11:13:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA04881 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 11:13:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stevenson.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (stevenson144.cogsci.ed.ac.uk [129.215.144.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA04874 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 11:13:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from richard@localhost) by stevenson.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA02222 for multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 15 May 1997 19:12:57 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 19:12:57 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <199705151812.TAA02222@stevenson.cogsci.ed.ac.uk> From: Richard Tobin Subject: Re: Teletext and intercast To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: Luigi Rizzo's message of Thu, 15 May 1997 11:40:34 +0200 (MET DST) Organization: just say no Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I don't know how cable is widespread in europe This reminds me: I have cable, but it turns out that almost all the cable stations here are scrambled, even the basic-rate ones. This makes my Win/TV card useless for cable. -- Richard From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu May 15 13:25:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA12663 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 13:25:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from compaq.parker.boston.ma.us (bparker.ne.highway1.com [24.128.47.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA12658 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 13:25:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sparc (sparc [204.253.111.2]) by compaq.parker.boston.ma.us (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA02908; Thu, 15 May 1997 20:25:50 GMT Message-Id: <199705152025.UAA02908@compaq.parker.boston.ma.us> To: Amancio Hasty cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: questions about current bt848 code In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 14 May 1997 20:52:31 PDT." <199705150352.UAA23946@rah.star-gate.com> Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 16:25:50 -0400 From: Brad Parker Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk You've been so kind listening to my questions, I hesistate to ask more but (what the heck!) - I have a "working" port of the freebsd snapshot bt848 driver for linux. The signal and mmap interface work fine, as well as the read interface if I comment out the code to wait for a frame (and assume that the capture ioctl has been called, as the meteor examples/single.c program does). - Naturally I have an S3 card. I have XFree 3.2 also. I can't get "direct" mode to work right. If I use "fxtv -disableDirectV" I get live video (since that uses the mmap interface) which looks ok, but has a little "snow" all over the screen at regular intervals... (reminds me of when we used to write into the frame buffer during on-screen time and the non-dual ported ram would have to arbitrate between the bus and the video and the video would loose). If I use "fxtv" I get a blank screen - but when I hit the middle mouse button in the title bar part of the screen fills in (dont' ask me why). I did some experiments mapping the frame buffer into kernel space and using memset, etc... I the address being given to the dma engine is right... it looks like the dma is stopping at random places. (I assume the pci bus master operating in the "physical address space", i.e. no mmu mapping is going on out there). Any ideas? I'm wondering if the X server has the addresses space cached and I need to disable the caching... -brad From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu May 15 13:43:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA13770 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 13:43:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from prova.iet.unipi.it (prova1.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA13763 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 13:43:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by prova.iet.unipi.it (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA00341 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 22:42:48 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 22:42:48 +0200 (CEST) From: Luigi Rizzo To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: teletext decoder on the hauppauge ? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, does anyone know how the teletext decoder (SAA5246A) is connected to the Bt848 on the Hauppauge card ? I have the data sheet of the saa5246a and it seems the only way to fetch the teletext data is by hooking into the lines between the teletext decoder and the RAM, but there appears to be no way to acquire control of the ram from the Bt848. Hence I assume the only way would be to let the SAA5246A display the page, and read address (13 bit), data (8) and OE (1) lines of the ram using 22 of the 24 GPIO lines of the Bt848 (2 are presumably used for the audio mux). Does not seem very efficient. Maybe the board is done differently ? Thanks Luigi ==================================================================== Luigi Rizzo Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione email: luigi@iet.unipi.it Universita' di Pisa tel: +39-50-568533 via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) fax: +39-50-568522 http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ ==================================================================== From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu May 15 13:46:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA13943 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 13:46:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA13937 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 13:46:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA11424; Thu, 15 May 1997 13:46:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705152046.NAA11424@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Brad Parker cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: questions about current bt848 code In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 15 May 1997 16:25:50 EDT." <199705152025.UAA02908@compaq.parker.boston.ma.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 13:46:53 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Whats up Mr Linux 8) Just talk to the XFree86 people about the snow it sounds like you have a DRAM card and also ask them about their Linux DGA extension. the snow can be caused by incorrect programming of the S3 chipset. Grab mtv , play an mpeg movie and chances are that you will see the same effect . Also, in bktr_intr you can uncomment the line which prints the status registers with that you ought to figure out why is the Bt848 stopping. If you can't interpret the status register just send me the output of the last 100 or so lines. Whats your system configuration: CPU Motherboard PCI chipset video card Last but not least play around with your BIOS settings . Better yet post your current BIOS PCI settings. Cheers, Amancio >From The Desk Of Brad Parker : > > You've been so kind listening to my questions, I hesistate to ask more > but (what the heck!) > > - I have a "working" port of the freebsd snapshot bt848 driver for linux. > The signal and mmap interface work fine, as well as the read interface > if I comment out the code to wait for a frame (and assume that the capture > ioctl has been called, as the meteor examples/single.c program does). > > - Naturally I have an S3 card. I have XFree 3.2 also. I can't get > "direct" mode to work right. > > If I use "fxtv -disableDirectV" I get live video (since that uses the > mmap interface) which looks ok, but has a little "snow" all over the > screen at regular intervals... (reminds me of when we used to write > into the frame buffer during on-screen time and the non-dual ported > ram would have to arbitrate between the bus and the video and the > video would loose). > > If I use "fxtv" I get a blank screen - but when I hit the middle mouse > button in the title bar part of the screen fills in (dont' ask me why). > I did some experiments mapping the frame buffer into kernel space and > using memset, etc... I the address being given to the dma engine is > right... it looks like the dma is stopping at random places. (I assume > the pci bus master operating in the "physical address space", i.e. no > mmu mapping is going on out there). > > Any ideas? I'm wondering if the X server has the addresses space cached and > I need to disable the caching... > > -brad From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu May 15 18:00:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA28087 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 18:00:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from compaq.parker.boston.ma.us (bparker.ne.highway1.com [24.128.47.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA28062 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 17:59:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sparc (sparc [204.253.111.2]) by compaq.parker.boston.ma.us (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA03836; Fri, 16 May 1997 00:59:54 GMT Message-Id: <199705160059.AAA03836@compaq.parker.boston.ma.us> To: Amancio Hasty cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: questions about current bt848 code In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 14 May 1997 20:52:31 PDT." <199705150352.UAA23946@rah.star-gate.com> Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 20:59:53 -0400 From: Brad Parker Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Amancio Hasty wrote: ... >Also you should be able to get vic going with very little problems >Just use grabber-meteor.cc and change the reference to meteor0 to bktr0 >or whatever bt848 device you have created. ... You said this (and I believed it :-) so I tried it. I got a really ugly green image with lots of pretty purple dots (it reminded me of my college days). Does it work for you? vic-2.8 wants to use YUV_PACKED mode. It looks like there is dma-program support for this in the current driver but no pixfmt, so "oformat_meteor_to_bt()" failes w/-1 (I verified this - it happens in my driver). There's also a comment in the code to the effect that pixel formats for YUV_422 and YUV_PACKED are missing... I'm not sure how to fix this but I'll look into it. any insights? I added entries to the mapping tables to get the right dma program to be built (that was easy), but still produced a nice green image (only 1/2 of an image, oddly) with purple highlights. ps: thanks for the tip on the S3 card & xfree86 - I'm going to get xfree86a and try the new "anti snow" fix From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu May 15 18:01:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA28188 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 18:01:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from uhf.wdc.net (uhf.wdc.net [198.147.74.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA28183 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 18:01:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (bad@localhost) by uhf.wdc.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA01779; Thu, 15 May 1997 21:01:47 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 21:01:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Bernie Doehner To: Amancio Hasty cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: WinCast TV stereo (cheap) In-Reply-To: <199705151636.JAA09780@rah.star-gate.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Curious , how much did you pay? > > Tnks, > Amancio > $99 plus $4 shipping! :) Now it's your turn, any recommendations on a cheap place for getting a cheap GUS PnP (mail order)? Bernie From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu May 15 18:43:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA00257 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 18:43:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA00252 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 18:43:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Thu, 15 May 1997 21:43:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com ([144.54.57.34]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA15208; Thu, 15 May 97 21:42:58 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id VAA13783; Thu, 15 May 1997 21:42:11 -0400 Message-Id: <19970515214210.17028@ct.picker.com> Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 21:42:10 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Nicolas M Pottier Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: MP3 Player for FreeBSD? References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: ; from Nicolas M Pottier on Wed, Apr 23, 1997 at 07:47:36PM -0400 Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Nicolas M Pottier: |Anybody know of one? | |I've tried tk3play, but it doesnt seem to link to my tkX libraries |correctly? Anybody got the binaries for a play that will work? (I know its been about 3 weeks since your request, but just got to MPEG-3 code/audio surfing tonight :-) First!, some nice MPEG-3 tests: http://www.mpeg.org/MPEG/bitstreams.html (mucho links to cool stuff) http://www.eskimo.com/~miyaguch/thx/thx.mp3 http://www.eskimo.com/~miyaguch/thx/thxbway.mp3 http://www.eskimo.com/~miyaguch/thx/cimarron.mp3 http://www.eskimo.com/~miyaguch/thx/bwaysimp.mp3 http://www.eskimo.com/~miyaguch/startrek/trekthem.mp3 (yeah, I kinda like those THX trailers ;-) And for the MPEG-3 players for FreeBSD (most posted to -questions recently): -- From: Dan Nelson -- mpg123 v0.59: plays Layer 1,2,3, plus may play Fraunhofer's layer 2.5 claims to be the fastest Unix MPEG player available at http://www.sfs.nphil.uni-tuebingen.de/~hipp/mpg123.html amp v0.7.3: only plays Layer 3 files (.mp3) available at ftp://ftp.rasip.fer.hr/pub/mpeg/ -- From: Zoltan Sebestyen -- maplay+: http://www-inst.eecs.berkeley.edu/~ctsay/mp2win/maplay+.freebsd.zip (one other poster had troubles on SBPro with this) -- From: Yun-Ching Lee -- splay v0.3: Plays mpeg (layer 3 and others?) and wave files Relatively high CPU utilization (70%) on my Cyrix 6x86 133MHz (P166) I got it from Linux directory on sunsite. It came with a Pentium-optimized Linux binary, but neither applies to me. and there's the original Linux mp3play at: mp3play: ftp://ftp.fhg.de/pub/iis/layer3 Of the above I've tried (in order of preference) mpg123 (my favorite so far), maplay+, and mp3play. mpg123 compiles out of the box for FreeBSD. It also uses less CPU than maplay+. Was using mp3play originally, but its a pain to use (have to wrap it in a script, have it write .wav to stdout, patch the wav, pipe that to a wav player, ...). mpg123 and maplay+ are stand-alone, so no need for that mess anymore. Randall From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu May 15 19:31:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA02072 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 19:31:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA02064 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 19:31:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA13862; Thu, 15 May 1997 19:31:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705160231.TAA13862@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Brad Parker cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: questions about current bt848 code In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 15 May 1997 20:59:53 EDT." <199705160059.AAA03836@compaq.parker.boston.ma.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed ; boundary="===_0_Thu_May_15_19:09:12_PDT_1997" Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 19:31:33 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk This is a multipart MIME message. --===_0_Thu_May_15_19:09:12_PDT_1997 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi, I am still waiting for your system configuration --- take your time 8) Yes, vic works over here fine . Please try out my version of grabber-meteor.cc it supports meteor and bt848 by that I mean that it goes out and tries to do a stat on metero and bktr where x is 0 , 1, 2 , etc.. however the video capture portion is the same as the old grabber-meteor.cc Regards, Amancio >From The Desk Of Brad Park er : > > Amancio Hasty wrote: > ... > >Also you should be able to get vic going with very little problems > >Just use grabber-meteor.cc and change the reference to meteor0 to bktr0 > >or whatever bt848 device you have created. > ... > > You said this (and I believed it :-) so I tried it. I got a really > ugly green image with lots of pretty purple dots (it reminded me of my > college days). Does it work for you? > > vic-2.8 wants to use YUV_PACKED mode. It looks like there is > dma-program support for this in the current driver but no pixfmt, so > "oformat_meteor_to_bt()" failes w/-1 (I verified this - it happens in > my driver). Hmmm... I wonder if you have the latest driver or something else is wrong. Our vic uses METEOR_GEO_UNSIGNED | METEOR_GEO_YUV_422; Looking a little bit more into the driver . Just fill out an entry for YUV_422 and YUV_PACKED and make sure that the mode type is set to to the respective video format: METEOR_GEO_YUV_422 and METEOR_YUV_PACKED. Currently, yuv_422 and yuv_packed dont use any byte or word swapping on the Bt848 . However , do give a try to the vic video capture module which I sent you. Cheers, Amancio > There's also a comment in the code to the effect that pixel formats > for YUV_422 and YUV_PACKED are missing... I'm not sure how to fix this > but I'll look into it. > > any insights? Leave that alone you don't need it at least for now . It is useful to support different yuv encodings however we don't have a good to represent FourCCs . You see on Windos land video cards support different FourCCs codes -- basically for this case it means different ways of encoding yuv . Please check out the http link in the Bt848 page on what FourCC means and various yuv formats for video cards. As it is today, XFree86 is not supporting yuv to RGB color expansion. Have fun! 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May 1997 19:57:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705160257.TAA14188@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Randall Hopper cc: Nicolas M Pottier , freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: MP3 Player for FreeBSD? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 15 May 1997 21:42:10 EDT." <19970515214210.17028@ct.picker.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 19:57:41 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Most Cool! I just tried out the first thx test streams and it sounds awesome with my GUS PnP . I am thinking about that inserting an rc entry so that when the system starts I can play it 8) With mpg123 v0.59 the CPU utilization is less than 6 percent of CPU utilization on my PPRO 200Mhz !! Pretty cool stuff ... Worth putting up your posting on the multimedia web page at FreeBSD.org just have a link to mpeg3 and if anyone likes they can pretty up the mpeg3 web stuff. Tnks! Amancio >From The Desk Of Randall Hopper : > Nicolas M Pottier: > |Anybody know of one? > | > |I've tried tk3play, but it doesnt seem to link to my tkX libraries > |correctly? Anybody got the binaries for a play that will work? > > (I know its been about 3 weeks since your request, but just got to MPEG-3 > code/audio surfing tonight :-) > > First!, some nice MPEG-3 tests: > > http://www.mpeg.org/MPEG/bitstreams.html (mucho links to cool stuff ) > http://www.eskimo.com/~miyaguch/thx/thx.mp3 > http://www.eskimo.com/~miyaguch/thx/thxbway.mp3 > http://www.eskimo.com/~miyaguch/thx/cimarron.mp3 > http://www.eskimo.com/~miyaguch/thx/bwaysimp.mp3 > http://www.eskimo.com/~miyaguch/startrek/trekthem.mp3 > > (yeah, I kinda like those THX trailers ;-) > > And for the MPEG-3 players for FreeBSD (most posted to -questions recently): > > -- From: Dan Nelson -- > mpg123 v0.59: > plays Layer 1,2,3, plus may play Fraunhofer's layer 2.5 > claims to be the fastest Unix MPEG player > available at http://www.sfs.nphil.uni-tuebingen.de/~hipp/mpg123.html > > amp v0.7.3: > only plays Layer 3 files (.mp3) > available at ftp://ftp.rasip.fer.hr/pub/mpeg/ > > -- From: Zoltan Sebestyen -- > maplay+: > http://www-inst.eecs.berkeley.edu/~ctsay/mp2win/maplay+.freebsd.zip > (one other poster had troubles on SBPro with this) > > -- From: Yun-Ching Lee -- > splay v0.3: > Plays mpeg (layer 3 and others?) and wave files > Relatively high CPU utilization (70%) on my Cyrix 6x86 133MHz (P166) > I got it from Linux directory on sunsite. It came with a > Pentium-optimized Linux binary, but neither applies to me. > > and there's the original Linux mp3play at: > > mp3play: ftp://ftp.fhg.de/pub/iis/layer3 > > > Of the above I've tried (in order of preference) mpg123 (my favorite so > far), maplay+, and mp3play. > > mpg123 compiles out of the box for FreeBSD. It also uses less CPU than > maplay+. Was using mp3play originally, but its a pain to use (have to wrap > it in a script, have it write .wav to stdout, patch the wav, pipe that to a > wav player, ...). mpg123 and maplay+ are stand-alone, so no need for that > mess anymore. > > Randall > > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu May 15 20:01:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA03419 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 20:01:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA03413 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 20:01:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA14227 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 20:01:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705160301.UAA14227@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: real time mpg3 encoder? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 20:01:51 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk If we can muster a realtime mpg3 encoder then it will be possible to modify vat to support mpg3 . Cheers, Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu May 15 20:25:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA04454 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 20:25:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA04449 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 20:25:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA14534 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 20:26:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705160326.UAA14534@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: new cd-da player Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 20:26:02 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk http://www.heim3.tu-clausthal.de/~olli/tosha/ Just tried out over here with my scsi TOSHIBA CD-ROM XM-3701TA 3205 and it seems to work ... No changes are necessarily since the program was written for FreeBSD 8) Another good candidate for the multimedia page once is out of the alpha stage ... Have fun, Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu May 15 20:56:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA05826 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 20:56:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dyson.iquest.net (dyson.iquest.net [198.70.144.127]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA05820 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 20:56:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by dyson.iquest.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id WAA00468; Thu, 15 May 1997 22:56:27 -0500 (EST) From: "John S. Dyson" Message-Id: <199705160356.WAA00468@dyson.iquest.net> Subject: Re: new cd-da player In-Reply-To: <199705160326.UAA14534@rah.star-gate.com> from Amancio Hasty at "May 15, 97 08:26:02 pm" To: hasty@rah.star-gate.com (Amancio Hasty) Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 22:56:26 -0500 (EST) Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > http://www.heim3.tu-clausthal.de/~olli/tosha/ > > Just tried out over here with my scsi TOSHIBA CD-ROM XM-3701TA 3205 and > it seems to work ... > > No changes are necessarily since the program was written for FreeBSD 8) > > Another good candidate for the multimedia page once is out of the alpha > stage ... > I have played with it, and it is the only FREE digital "audio-grabber" that has gotten my Plextor 12plex to grab at nearly full speed (8X!!!) so far. John From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu May 15 21:01:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA06003 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 21:01:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA05998 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 21:01:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA14816; Thu, 15 May 1997 21:01:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705160401.VAA14816@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: "John S. Dyson" cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: new cd-da player In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 15 May 1997 22:56:26 CDT." <199705160356.WAA00468@dyson.iquest.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 21:01:37 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Cool, If we hear more good reports lets move at least a reference to the multimedia web page. A port and package will not hurt also. Volunteers? Tnks, Amancio >From The Desk Of "John S. Dyson" : > > > > http://www.heim3.tu-clausthal.de/~olli/tosha/ > > > > Just tried out over here with my scsi TOSHIBA CD-ROM XM-3701TA 3205 and > > it seems to work ... > > > > No changes are necessarily since the program was written for FreeBSD 8) > > > > Another good candidate for the multimedia page once is out of the alpha > > stage ... > > > I have played with it, and it is the only FREE digital "audio-grabber" > that has gotten my Plextor 12plex to grab at nearly full speed (8X!!!) > so far. > > John From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu May 15 21:38:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA07426 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 21:38:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from silver.sms.fi (silver.sms.fi [194.111.122.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA07421 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 21:38:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from pete@localhost) by silver.sms.fi (8.8.5/8.7.3) id HAA22105; Fri, 16 May 1997 07:38:23 +0300 (EEST) Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 07:38:23 +0300 (EEST) Message-Id: <199705160438.HAA22105@silver.sms.fi> From: Petri Helenius To: Amancio Hasty Cc: "John S. Dyson" , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: new cd-da player In-Reply-To: <199705160401.VAA14816@rah.star-gate.com> References: <199705160356.WAA00468@dyson.iquest.net> <199705160401.VAA14816@rah.star-gate.com> Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Amancio Hasty writes: > Cool, > > If we hear more good reports lets move at least a reference to the > multimedia web page. A port and package will not hurt also. Volunteers? > I think this player lacks jittercontrol which is neccessary, specially with lower speed drives. My audio gets bad at times (if there is any significant activity on the system at the time of reading the cd) Pete From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu May 15 21:39:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA07556 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 21:39:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from silver.sms.fi (silver.sms.fi [194.111.122.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA07546 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 21:39:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from pete@localhost) by silver.sms.fi (8.8.5/8.7.3) id HAA22108; Fri, 16 May 1997 07:39:39 +0300 (EEST) Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 07:39:39 +0300 (EEST) Message-Id: <199705160439.HAA22108@silver.sms.fi> From: Petri Helenius To: Amancio Hasty Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: real time mpg3 encoder? In-Reply-To: <199705160301.UAA14227@rah.star-gate.com> References: <199705160301.UAA14227@rah.star-gate.com> Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Amancio Hasty writes: > > > If we can muster a realtime mpg3 encoder then it will be possible to > modify vat to support mpg3 . > I've been told by the people who do this for living that they've accomplished the task (MPEG Audio layer-3, there is no MPEG-3) using 166 Mhz MMX CPU but not with even Pro200. (that is with high quality which is the idea behind this anyway) Pete From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu May 15 21:54:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA08068 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 21:54:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA08061 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 21:54:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA15194; Thu, 15 May 1997 21:54:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705160454.VAA15194@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Petri Helenius cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: real time mpg3 encoder? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 16 May 1997 07:39:39 +0300." <199705160439.HAA22108@silver.sms.fi> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 21:54:30 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Can you inform those that do things like mpeg layer 3 encoding that we are interested on an mpeg layer 3 encoder for the purpose of audio conferencing or "broadcasting" with vat or an rtp audio tool? Yes, I understand the P166 MMX requirement and we do have patches to support MMX . Tnks, Amancio >From The Desk Of Petri Helenius : > Amancio Hasty writes: > > > > > > If we can muster a realtime mpg3 encoder then it will be possible to > > modify vat to support mpg3 . > > > I've been told by the people who do this for living that they've > accomplished the task (MPEG Audio layer-3, there is no MPEG-3) using > 166 Mhz MMX CPU but not with even Pro200. > (that is with high quality which is the idea behind this anyway) > > Pete From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu May 15 22:03:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA08391 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 22:03:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crh.cl.msu.edu (crh.cl.msu.edu [35.8.1.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA08385 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 22:03:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from henrich@localhost) by crh.cl.msu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA26265; Fri, 16 May 1997 01:01:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19970516010127.60264@crh.cl.msu.edu> Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 01:01:27 -0400 From: Charles Henrich To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org, toor@dyson.iquest.net Subject: Re: new cd-da player Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.73 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2-970422-RELENG Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > http://www.heim3.tu-clausthal.de/~olli/tosha/ > > > > Just tried out over here with my scsi TOSHIBA CD-ROM XM-3701TA 3205 and > > it seems to work ... > > > > No changes are necessarily since the program was written for FreeBSD 8) > > > > Another good candidate for the multimedia page once is out of the alpha > > stage ... > > > > I have played with it, and it is the only FREE digital "audio-grabber" > that has gotten my Plextor 12plex to grab at nearly full speed (8X!!!) > so far. How does this compare to cdd? (ftp.scnc.k12.mi.us/pub/misc) ? -Crh Charles Henrich Michigan State University henrich@msu.edu http://pilot.msu.edu/~henrich From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu May 15 22:05:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA08531 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 22:05:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from silver.sms.fi (silver.sms.fi [194.111.122.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA08526 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 22:05:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from pete@localhost) by silver.sms.fi (8.8.5/8.7.3) id IAA22207; Fri, 16 May 1997 08:05:02 +0300 (EEST) Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 08:05:02 +0300 (EEST) Message-Id: <199705160505.IAA22207@silver.sms.fi> From: Petri Helenius To: Amancio Hasty Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: real time mpg3 encoder? In-Reply-To: <199705160454.VAA15194@rah.star-gate.com> References: <199705160439.HAA22108@silver.sms.fi> <199705160454.VAA15194@rah.star-gate.com> Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Amancio Hasty writes: > Can you inform those that do things like mpeg layer 3 encoding that we > are interested on an mpeg layer 3 encoder for the purpose of audio > conferencing or "broadcasting" with vat or an rtp audio tool? > Can you live with just having object libary with documented API or is source availability a neccessity? Additionally, are you willing to shell out $$$ for doing this? Since it might take a while until a free implementation comes around. (or then, maybe not) > Yes, I understand the P166 MMX requirement and we do have patches to > support MMX . > Pete From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu May 15 22:05:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA08570 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 22:05:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA08565 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 22:05:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id WAA02253 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 22:06:24 -0700 (PDT) To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Anyone know of any software for playing Video CDs? Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 22:06:23 -0700 Message-ID: <2239.863759183@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk And I'm not talking about the new DVD stuff, I'm talking about the older Video CD "standard" which was promulgated by Phillips and others. I can play these CDs just fine in my CD-I player (with hardware MPEG decoder plugged in the back) but it's a PAL device, it runs off of 220V and, basically, I'd much rather view them on my FreeBSD box if I could. :-) So, anyone have any clues for me? I used to not even be able to read their funny record size before, but I think that the new Plexstore 12CS drive I have (or, at the very least, my HP 4020i) should be able to handle that if I can find some sort of software for handling the decompression. And no Windows solutions please - I don't even have Windows on this box. ;) Thanks! Jordan From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu May 15 22:09:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA08698 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 22:09:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA08692 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 22:09:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA15334; Thu, 15 May 1997 22:10:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705160510.WAA15334@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Petri Helenius cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: real time mpg3 encoder? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 16 May 1997 08:05:02 +0300." <199705160505.IAA22207@silver.sms.fi> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 22:10:00 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I can live with an object library and API . Just how much are thinking for asking for the library? Amancio >From The Desk Of Petri Helenius : > Amancio Hasty writes: > > Can you inform those that do things like mpeg layer 3 encoding that we > > are interested on an mpeg layer 3 encoder for the purpose of audio > > conferencing or "broadcasting" with vat or an rtp audio tool? > > > Can you live with just having object libary with documented API or is > source availability a neccessity? Additionally, are you willing to > shell out $$$ for doing this? Since it might take a while until a free > implementation comes around. (or then, maybe not) > > > Yes, I understand the P166 MMX requirement and we do have patches to > > support MMX . > > > Pete From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu May 15 22:28:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA09540 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 22:28:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from silver.sms.fi (silver.sms.fi [194.111.122.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA09522 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 22:28:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from pete@localhost) by silver.sms.fi (8.8.5/8.7.3) id IAA22254; Fri, 16 May 1997 08:27:56 +0300 (EEST) Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 08:27:56 +0300 (EEST) Message-Id: <199705160527.IAA22254@silver.sms.fi> From: Petri Helenius To: Amancio Hasty Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: real time mpg3 encoder? In-Reply-To: <199705160510.WAA15334@rah.star-gate.com> References: <199705160505.IAA22207@silver.sms.fi> <199705160510.WAA15334@rah.star-gate.com> Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Amancio Hasty writes: > I can live with an object library and API . Just how much are thinking > for asking for the library? > I don't know since I'm not selling nor doing anything, but since this is unreleased development, I'll ask the people doing it to contact you directly. Pete From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri May 16 01:49:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA17348 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 01:49:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA17342 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 01:49:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA16914; Fri, 16 May 1997 01:49:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705160849.BAA16914@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Petri Helenius cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, oliver.fromme@heim3.tu-clausthal.de Subject: Re: new cd-da player In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 16 May 1997 07:38:23 +0300." <199705160438.HAA22105@silver.sms.fi> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 01:49:38 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hmm... Have you mentioned this to Oliver? Cheers, Amancio >From The Desk Of Petri Helenius : > Amancio Hasty writes: > > Cool, > > > > If we hear more good reports lets move at least a reference to the > > multimedia web page. A port and package will not hurt also. Volunteers? > > > I think this player lacks jittercontrol which is neccessary, specially > with lower speed drives. My audio gets bad at times (if there is any > significant activity on the system at the time of reading the cd) > > Pete From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri May 16 02:05:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA17976 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 02:05:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA17969 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 02:05:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA17152; Fri, 16 May 1997 02:05:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705160905.CAA17152@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Bernie Doehner cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: WinCast TV stereo (cheap) In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 15 May 1997 21:01:46 EDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 02:05:04 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I tried to avoid buying equipment cheaply that is from mail orders , etc... In my case, I am more interested in the return policy and with equipment such as disks with the warranty such as Fry's offers in the Bay Area. If the disk goes bad, I just take it back and get another one. Got to admit that at $99 is a terrific deal that even I am tempted for . Additionally, it makes video conferencing an affordable technology. Regards, Amancio >From The Desk Of Bernie Doehner : > > Curious , how much did you pay? > > > > Tnks, > > Amancio > > > > $99 plus $4 shipping! :) > > Now it's your turn, any recommendations on a cheap place for getting a > cheap GUS PnP (mail order)? > > Bernie > > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri May 16 02:09:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA18113 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 02:09:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from silver.sms.fi (silver.sms.fi [194.111.122.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA18107 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 02:09:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from pete@localhost) by silver.sms.fi (8.8.5/8.7.3) id MAA22617; Fri, 16 May 1997 12:09:21 +0300 (EEST) Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 12:09:21 +0300 (EEST) Message-Id: <199705160909.MAA22617@silver.sms.fi> From: Petri Helenius To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Anyone know of any software for playing Video CDs? In-Reply-To: <2239.863759183@time.cdrom.com> References: <2239.863759183@time.cdrom.com> Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Jordan K. Hubbard writes: > And I'm not talking about the new DVD stuff, I'm talking about > the older Video CD "standard" which was promulgated by Phillips > and others. > > I can play these CDs just fine in my CD-I player (with hardware MPEG > decoder plugged in the back) but it's a PAL device, it runs off of > 220V and, basically, I'd much rather view them on my FreeBSD box if I > could. :-) > > So, anyone have any clues for me? I used to not even be able to read > their funny record size before, but I think that the new Plexstore > 12CS drive I have (or, at the very least, my HP 4020i) should be > able to handle that if I can find some sort of software for handling > the decompression. > Most of the video CD's are actually ISO9660 formatted stuff (at least most of the ones I've run into, though my exposure is limited to about 10 disks). So you have one large mpeg system stream in /MPEGAV/ subdirectory which is playable with players that play mpeg system streams. Pete From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri May 16 02:35:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA19042 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 02:35:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA19030; Fri, 16 May 1997 02:35:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id CAA05961; Fri, 16 May 1997 02:36:14 -0700 (PDT) To: Petri Helenius cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, joerg@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Anyone know of any software for playing Video CDs? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 16 May 1997 12:09:21 +0300." <199705160909.MAA22617@silver.sms.fi> Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 02:36:13 -0700 Message-ID: <5942.863775373@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Most of the video CD's are actually ISO9660 formatted stuff (at least > most of the ones I've run into, though my exposure is limited to about > 10 disks). So you have one large mpeg system stream in /MPEGAV/ > subdirectory which is playable with players that play mpeg system > streams. Interesting. I first got "Star Trek IV, The undiscovered country" out and saw that it was clearly labelled "CD-I" - not unsurprisingly, it wouldn't mount as an ISO9660 volume (it'd still be nice to figure out how to play it as it's my favorite disk, but hey - I know it was an early rev of the spec :). Then I got "Addam's Family Values" which is simply labelled as "Video CD" and, sure enough: root@time-> cd /cdrom root@time-> ls abstract.txt cdi mpegav biblio.txt copyrigh.txt vcd root@time-> ls -l mpegav/ total 381380 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 768000 May 20 1994 avseq01.dat -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 4933632 May 20 1994 avseq02.dat -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 384831488 May 20 1994 avseq03.dat So.. I then tried the new xanim on this and was rewarded with the following on my console: cd0(ahc0:6:0): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:64,0 Illegal mode for this track cd0(ahc0:6:0): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:64,0 Illegal mode for this track (xanim, of course, promptly said "bleah!"). "Hmmmm!" says I. I tried it then on the HP 4020i drive, using the worm driver. No doggie bisquit for me: worm0(ahc0:2:0): MISCOMPARE info:d4d asc:a7,0 Vendor Specific ASC worm0(ahc0:2:0): MISCOMPARE info:d4e asc:a7,0 Vendor Specific ASC worm0(ahc0:2:0): MISCOMPARE info:d4d asc:a7,0 Vendor Specific ASC Same basic problem. Any other ideas? ;-) Jordan From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri May 16 02:41:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA19371 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 02:41:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA19366 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 02:41:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA00509; Fri, 16 May 1997 02:41:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705160941.CAA00509@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Petri Helenius cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Anyone know of any software for playing Video CDs? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 16 May 1997 12:09:21 +0300." <199705160909.MAA22617@silver.sms.fi> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 02:41:07 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi Jordan, Omnimedia sells board which we have a driver for and Brian Litzinger wrote an applicatio which is capable of playing back cdi and videocd. Alternatively, if you can talk Brian to generate a library for his cdi player we could then use it for players such as mtv. Cheers, Amancio >From The Desk Of Petri Helenius : > Jordan K. Hubbard writes: > > And I'm not talking about the new DVD stuff, I'm talking about > > the older Video CD "standard" which was promulgated by Phillips > > and others. > > > > I can play these CDs just fine in my CD-I player (with hardware MPEG > > decoder plugged in the back) but it's a PAL device, it runs off of > > 220V and, basically, I'd much rather view them on my FreeBSD box if I > > could. :-) > > > > So, anyone have any clues for me? I used to not even be able to read > > their funny record size before, but I think that the new Plexstore > > 12CS drive I have (or, at the very least, my HP 4020i) should be > > able to handle that if I can find some sort of software for handling > > the decompression. > > > Most of the video CD's are actually ISO9660 formatted stuff (at least > most of the ones I've run into, though my exposure is limited to about > 10 disks). So you have one large mpeg system stream in /MPEGAV/ > subdirectory which is playable with players that play mpeg system > streams. > > Pete From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri May 16 04:01:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA22163 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 04:01:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA22157 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 04:01:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id EAA17591; Fri, 16 May 1997 04:01:41 -0700 (PDT) To: Amancio Hasty cc: Petri Helenius , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Anyone know of any software for playing Video CDs? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 16 May 1997 02:41:07 PDT." <199705160941.CAA00509@rah.star-gate.com> Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 04:01:40 -0700 Message-ID: <17587.863780500@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Omnimedia sells board which we have a driver for and Brian Litzinger wrote > an applicatio which is capable of playing back cdi and videocd. Interesting - how much does it cost? I'd sort of hoped to do this in software, but I guess if I can't even _read_ the bloody CDs (as you see from my follow-up), I have little choice. ;-) Jordan From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri May 16 04:23:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA22912 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 04:23:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from silver.sms.fi (silver.sms.fi [194.111.122.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA22907 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 04:22:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from pete@localhost) by silver.sms.fi (8.8.5/8.7.3) id OAA22818; Fri, 16 May 1997 14:21:52 +0300 (EEST) Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 14:21:52 +0300 (EEST) Message-Id: <199705161121.OAA22818@silver.sms.fi> From: Petri Helenius To: Amancio Hasty Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, oliver.fromme@heim3.tu-clausthal.de Subject: Re: new cd-da player In-Reply-To: <199705160849.BAA16914@rah.star-gate.com> References: <199705160438.HAA22105@silver.sms.fi> <199705160849.BAA16914@rah.star-gate.com> Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Amancio Hasty writes: > Hmm... > Have you mentioned this to Oliver? > Not yet, since I just loaded the software a couple of hours ago. Pete From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri May 16 04:30:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA23196 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 04:30:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id EAA23191 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 04:30:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Fri, 16 May 1997 7:29:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com ([144.54.57.34]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA28088; Fri, 16 May 97 07:29:10 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id HAA15390; Fri, 16 May 1997 07:28:23 -0400 Message-Id: <19970516072822.51063@ct.picker.com> Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 07:28:22 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Richard Foulk Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: which sound card? SB32/AWE32 References: <199705100050.OAA07484@pegasus.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: <199705100050.OAA07484@pegasus.com>; from Richard Foulk on Fri, May 09, 1997 at 02:49:56PM -1001 Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Richard Foulk: |Aloha, any recommendations on a decent sound card that works |with 2.2? Other than a GUS PnP that is. I've got one of those and |it doesn't work very well with my AMD 486. Just caught up on the Gus PnP thread that this spawned. Sounds like its there's a trick to getting it to work. Seriously, as far as good sound cards go, I haven't been disappointed with my Sound Blaster 32. Full SB16, SB compatibility, works great with the existing FreeBSD Voxware drivers, and can't beat the support in other OSs. The only thing it doesn't have I have wanted in the past is full-duplex support in FreeBSD. But this isn't a big deal to me. Even has MIDI support. I took time earlier this week and updated Takashi Iwai's AWE32 driver (v0.4.0). It'll plug right into FreeBSD: http://bahamut.mm.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp/~iwai/midi.html I also updated the Doom musserver port, so FreeBSD SB32/AWE32 users can now get music w/o the elusive 3.5 Voxware drivers that have never been ported (to my knowledge). Takashi should be posting this shortly, or you can e-mail me and I'll send you a copy (it's not a big patch). Randall From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri May 16 04:58:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA24165 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 04:58:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from silver.sms.fi (silver.sms.fi [194.111.122.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA24158; Fri, 16 May 1997 04:58:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from pete@localhost) by silver.sms.fi (8.8.5/8.7.3) id OAA22997; Fri, 16 May 1997 14:58:23 +0300 (EEST) Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 14:58:23 +0300 (EEST) Message-Id: <199705161158.OAA22997@silver.sms.fi> From: Petri Helenius To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, joerg@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Anyone know of any software for playing Video CDs? In-Reply-To: <5942.863775373@time.cdrom.com> References: <199705160909.MAA22617@silver.sms.fi> <5942.863775373@time.cdrom.com> Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Jordan K. Hubbard writes: > > Most of the video CD's are actually ISO9660 formatted stuff (at least > > most of the ones I've run into, though my exposure is limited to about > > 10 disks). So you have one large mpeg system stream in /MPEGAV/ > > subdirectory which is playable with players that play mpeg system > > streams. > > Interesting. I first got "Star Trek IV, The undiscovered country" out > and saw that it was clearly labelled "CD-I" - not unsurprisingly, it > wouldn't mount as an ISO9660 volume (it'd still be nice to figure out > how to play it as it's my favorite disk, but hey - I know it was an > early rev of the spec :). Then I got "Addam's Family Values" which > is simply labelled as "Video CD" and, sure enough: Unfortunately I've actually copied them over to the Freebsd's hard disk using win95 :-( I tried reading the disks I've with my solaris workstation and it seems to function ok. I'll try reading them with my home workstation which has Toshiba CD later today. > > (xanim, of course, promptly said "bleah!"). > Unfortunately some of the files might not be straight MPG system streams but encapsulated in RIFF CDXA format. xanim cannot deal with these. Pete From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri May 16 05:05:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA24566 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 05:05:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from uhf.wdc.net (uhf.4d.net [207.137.157.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA24557 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 05:05:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (bad@localhost) by uhf.wdc.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id IAA01196; Fri, 16 May 1997 08:05:27 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 08:05:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Bernie Doehner To: Amancio Hasty cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: WinCast TV stereo (cheap) In-Reply-To: <199705160905.CAA17152@rah.star-gate.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I tried to avoid buying equipment cheaply that is from mail orders , etc... > In my case, I am more interested in the return policy and with equipment > such as disks with the warranty such as Fry's offers in the Bay > Area. If the disk goes bad, I just take it back and get another one. Yea. Me too. Fortunately all the *Warehouse dealers are really good with returns. Bernie From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri May 16 05:48:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA26331 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 05:48:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stevenson.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (stevenson144.cogsci.ed.ac.uk [129.215.144.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA26191 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 05:45:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from richard@localhost) by stevenson.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA23420; Fri, 16 May 1997 13:43:12 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 13:43:12 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <199705161243.NAA23420@stevenson.cogsci.ed.ac.uk> From: Richard Tobin Subject: Re: Anyone know of any software for playing Video CDs? To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: Jordan K. Hubbard's message of Thu, 15 May 1997 22:06:23 -0700 Organization: just say no Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I can play these CDs just fine in my CD-I player (with hardware MPEG > decoder plugged in the back) but it's a PAL device, it runs off of > 220V and, basically, I'd much rather view them on my FreeBSD box if I > could. :-) Why not get a PAL Win/TV card, plug the PAL output into it, and watch it in a window using fxtv. Just joking (I think). -- Richard From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri May 16 06:51:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA28729 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 06:51:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA28723 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 06:50:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA04073; Fri, 16 May 1997 06:50:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705161350.GAA04073@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Randall Hopper cc: Richard Foulk , freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: which sound card? SB32/AWE32 In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 16 May 1997 07:28:22 EDT." <19970516072822.51063@ct.picker.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 06:50:32 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >From The Desk Of Randall Hopper : > Richard Foulk: > |Aloha, any recommendations on a decent sound card that works > |with 2.2? Other than a GUS PnP that is. I've got one of those and > |it doesn't work very well with my AMD 486. > > Just caught up on the Gus PnP thread that this spawned. Sounds like its > there's a trick to getting it to work. > Hi, Every once in a while we do get a system in hardware does not work. This is the first time I heard of a system refusing to work with the GUS PnP . The guspnp6 is based upon the 3.5 Voxware sound driver. Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri May 16 06:55:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA28861 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 06:55:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA28855; Fri, 16 May 1997 06:55:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA04118; Fri, 16 May 1997 06:54:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705161354.GAA04118@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: Petri Helenius , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, joerg@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Anyone know of any software for playing Video CDs? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 16 May 1997 02:36:13 PDT." <5942.863775373@time.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 06:54:51 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Jordan, we can play read both CDI and VideoCD. I wrote the original code to read CDI . Brian should be able to step in and explain again. the videocd format is not really ISO9660 compliant . yes, you can read the directory structure however the actual video stream is still pretty much Phillips format and in fact the blocks are not even 2048. Amancio >From The Desk Of "Jordan K. Hubbard" : > > Most of the video CD's are actually ISO9660 formatted stuff (at least > > most of the ones I've run into, though my exposure is limited to about > > 10 disks). So you have one large mpeg system stream in /MPEGAV/ > > subdirectory which is playable with players that play mpeg system > > streams. > > Interesting. I first got "Star Trek IV, The undiscovered country" out > and saw that it was clearly labelled "CD-I" - not unsurprisingly, it > wouldn't mount as an ISO9660 volume (it'd still be nice to figure out > how to play it as it's my favorite disk, but hey - I know it was an > early rev of the spec :). Then I got "Addam's Family Values" which > is simply labelled as "Video CD" and, sure enough: > > root@time-> cd /cdrom > root@time-> ls > abstract.txt cdi mpegav > biblio.txt copyrigh.txt vcd > root@time-> ls -l mpegav/ > total 381380 > -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 768000 May 20 1994 avseq01.dat > -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 4933632 May 20 1994 avseq02.dat > -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 384831488 May 20 1994 avseq03.dat > > So.. I then tried the new xanim on this and was rewarded with > the following on my console: > > cd0(ahc0:6:0): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:64,0 Illegal mode for this track > cd0(ahc0:6:0): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:64,0 Illegal mode for this track > > (xanim, of course, promptly said "bleah!"). > > "Hmmmm!" says I. I tried it then on the HP 4020i drive, using > the worm driver. No doggie bisquit for me: > > worm0(ahc0:2:0): MISCOMPARE info:d4d asc:a7,0 Vendor Specific ASC > worm0(ahc0:2:0): MISCOMPARE info:d4e asc:a7,0 Vendor Specific ASC > worm0(ahc0:2:0): MISCOMPARE info:d4d asc:a7,0 Vendor Specific ASC > > Same basic problem. Any other ideas? ;-) > > Jordan From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri May 16 07:00:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA29205 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 07:00:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA29200 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 07:00:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Fri, 16 May 1997 9:59:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com ([144.54.57.34]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA05522; Fri, 16 May 97 09:59:00 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA15606; Fri, 16 May 1997 09:58:13 -0400 Message-Id: <19970516095812.31339@ct.picker.com> Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 09:58:12 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Bernie Doehner Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: wincast/tv which one? References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: ; from Bernie Doehner on Wed, May 07, 1997 at 06:20:44PM -0400 Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Bernie Doehner: |I just picked up a Stealth 3D 2000 clone video card that will hopefuly |work with WinCast/TV, and I am about to order my WinCast from iQVC. I see most of your other questions were answered by folks on the list. When I was video card shopping, this was one of the many I surfed. If memory serves, the Stealth 3D 2000 is a S3 Virge-based DRAM card. Ken Stox and I are both running STB Velocity 3Ds (also S3 Virge chipset) with the Wincast with no problems. The XFree86 3.2A S3V server works fine in 8 and 16bpp. These are VRAM cards though, so though the chipset is the same, the RAM speed and single-/dual-portedness of the video memory is different between these cards. However, having said that, I've had the Wincast blasting to my 2Meg EDO-DRAM Hercules Stingray 64 with no problem, so there's a good change the 3D 2000 will work fine. |Last question.. Coming out of the wincast TV I gather is line level audio. |How weak is it?? I won't be getting my GUS MAX for another month. Is it Standard line (not speaker) impedence, so you'll want to use an amp or the line in jack of your soundcard. Randall From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri May 16 07:05:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA29405 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 07:05:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from uhf.wdc.net (uhf.4d.net [207.137.157.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA29400 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 07:04:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (bad@localhost) by uhf.wdc.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA00474; Fri, 16 May 1997 10:04:24 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 10:04:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Bernie Doehner To: Randall Hopper cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: wincast/tv which one? In-Reply-To: <19970516095812.31339@ct.picker.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > When I was video card shopping, this was one of the many I surfed. If > memory serves, the Stealth 3D 2000 is a S3 Virge-based DRAM card. At least my clone uses EDO. I am not a believer in EDO, but this card cost 1/2 of the real Stealth 3D's. I have been battling with slow SIMMs so I haven't time to install Wincast. Hopefuly today. > with the Wincast with no problems. The XFree86 3.2A S3V server works fine > in 8 and 16bpp. These are VRAM cards though, so though the chipset is the I noticed.. So nice to have 16bpp (with my Trident 9680/2MB it didn't work all that well). Can't wait for 24bpp functioning support. > Standard line (not speaker) impedence, so you'll want to use an amp or the > line in jack of your soundcard. > All set in that department. Thanks. Bernie From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri May 16 09:16:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA05913 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 09:16:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from garbo.lodgenet.com ([204.124.122.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA05908 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 09:16:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jake.lodgenet.com (jake.lodgenet.com [10.0.11.30]) by garbo.lodgenet.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA30898; Fri, 16 May 1997 11:15:43 -0500 Received: from jake.lodgenet.com (localhost.lodgenet.com [127.0.0.1]) by jake.lodgenet.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id LAA05586; Fri, 16 May 1997 11:15:37 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199705161615.LAA05586@jake.lodgenet.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: Amancio Hasty cc: Petri Helenius , "Jordan K. Hubbard" , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Anyone know of any software for playing Video CDs? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 16 May 1997 02:41:07 PDT." <199705160941.CAA00509@rah.star-gate.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 11:15:36 -0500 From: "Eric L. Hernes" Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Amancio Hasty writes: > >Hi Jordan, > >Omnimedia sells board which we have a driver for and Brian Litzinger wrote >an applicatio which is capable of playing back cdi and videocd. > I've got a driver for Visual Circuits mpeg-I isa cards. I've got it on the way-back burner to put it in current someday (there weren't any objections from committers', just don't let it stagnate). The cards are ~$400 or so. It'll play system streams just fine. Visual Circuits is working on a real-time encoder, that I'm hoping to play with someday too... >Alternatively, if you can talk Brian to generate a library for his cdi player >we could then use it for players such as mtv. Yea, I'd like a library that reads cdi and spits out mpeg systems. > > Cheers, > Amancio eric. -- erich@rrnet.com http://rrnet.com/~erich erich@freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org/~erich erich@lodgenet.com From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri May 16 09:23:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA06212 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 09:23:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cerberus.partsnow.com (gatekeeper.partsnow.com [207.155.26.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA06207 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 09:23:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bin@localhost) by cerberus.partsnow.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) id JAA27662 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 09:21:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: cerberus.partsnow.com: bin set sender to using -f Received: from pcconsole(192.168.100.254) by cerberus.partsnow.com via smap (V2.0) id xma027657; Fri, 16 May 97 09:21:37 -0700 Message-ID: <337C8A01.1F28@PartsNow.com> Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 09:23:29 -0700 From: Don Wilde Organization: Soligen, Incorporated X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01E -NOV-NOV (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: video capture Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'd like to get some feedback for a project that we're going to do Real Soon Now: point-to-point videoconferencing. I'd like to get some experiences and pointers as to what's good and what's available for FreeBSD. We have several locations which will have frame relay 128K connections. We need to be able to conference (1 - 5 people) with both audio and video. I'd like to be able to dial the frame size to support either low-res for color and real-time motion or hi res at 1 frame/10 sec or so, because we need to be able to zoom in and discern features on closeup shots. We have PCI pentiums available, can probably even use one for digitizing and one for MPEG squirting. The video source is potentially open, too. I'd like to be able to upgrade from NTSC to Hi-8 / Svideo as an option. I have heard of NV from my research into CU-SeeMe, what do you all think about hardware and software possibilities? -- oooOOO O O O o * * * * * * o ___ _________ _________ ________ _________ _________ ___==_ V_=_=_DW ===--- Don Wilde [don@PartsNow.com] [http://www.PartsNow.com ] /oo0000oo-oo--oo-ooo---ooo-ooo---ooo-ooo--ooo-ooo---ooo-ooo---ooo-oo--oo From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri May 16 10:03:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA08289 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 10:03:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fyeung5 (netific.vip.best.com [205.149.182.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA08281 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 10:03:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fyeung8.netific.com (fyeung8.netific.com [204.238.125.8]) by fyeung5 (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id WAA21851; Thu, 15 May 1997 22:10:37 -0700 Received: by fyeung8.netific.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA13780; Fri, 16 May 1997 10:08:40 -0700 Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 10:08:40 -0700 From: fyeung@fyeung8.netific.com (Francis Yeung) Message-Id: <9705161708.AA13780@fyeung8.netific.com> To: pete@sms.fi, hasty@rah.star-gate.com Subject: Re: real time mpg3 encoder? Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greetings, Correct me if I am wrong. I thought MPEG 3 is dead and MPEG 4 is the way to do. Francis > From root@fyeung25.netific.com Thu May 15 22:51 PDT 1997 > To: Petri Helenius > Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: real time mpg3 encoder? > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 22:10:00 -0700 > From: Amancio Hasty > X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > I can live with an object library and API . Just how much are thinking > for asking for the library? > > Amancio > > >From The Desk Of Petri Helenius : > > Amancio Hasty writes: > > > Can you inform those that do things like mpeg layer 3 encoding that we > > > are interested on an mpeg layer 3 encoder for the purpose of audio > > > conferencing or "broadcasting" with vat or an rtp audio tool? > > > > > Can you live with just having object libary with documented API or is > > source availability a neccessity? Additionally, are you willing to > > shell out $$$ for doing this? Since it might take a while until a free > > implementation comes around. (or then, maybe not) > > > > > Yes, I understand the P166 MMX requirement and we do have patches to > > > support MMX . > > > > > Pete > > > > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri May 16 10:08:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA08583 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 10:08:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from silver.sms.fi (silver.sms.fi [194.111.122.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA08577 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 10:08:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from pete@localhost) by silver.sms.fi (8.8.5/8.7.3) id UAA23508; Fri, 16 May 1997 20:06:03 +0300 (EEST) Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 20:06:03 +0300 (EEST) Message-Id: <199705161706.UAA23508@silver.sms.fi> From: Petri Helenius To: "Eric L. Hernes" Cc: Amancio Hasty , "Jordan K. Hubbard" , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Anyone know of any software for playing Video CDs? In-Reply-To: <199705161615.LAA05586@jake.lodgenet.com> References: <199705160941.CAA00509@rah.star-gate.com> <199705161615.LAA05586@jake.lodgenet.com> Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Eric L. Hernes writes: > Amancio Hasty writes: > > > >Hi Jordan, > > > >Omnimedia sells board which we have a driver for and Brian Litzinger wrote > >an applicatio which is capable of playing back cdi and videocd. > > > > I've got a driver for Visual Circuits mpeg-I isa cards. I've got it > on the way-back burner to put it in current someday (there weren't any > objections from committers', just don't let it stagnate). The cards are > ~$400 or so. It'll play system streams just fine. Visual Circuits > is working on a real-time encoder, that I'm hoping to play with someday > too... > $400 sounds kind of steep for a card that cannot do DMA into video memory... (since it's an ISA card it obviously cannot DMA to PCI memory, right?) Pete From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri May 16 10:44:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA10276 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 10:44:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA10207; Fri, 16 May 1997 10:44:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id KAA15875; Fri, 16 May 1997 10:43:24 -0700 (PDT) To: Amancio Hasty cc: Petri Helenius , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, joerg@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Anyone know of any software for playing Video CDs? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 16 May 1997 06:54:51 PDT." <199705161354.GAA04118@rah.star-gate.com> Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 10:43:23 -0700 Message-ID: <15871.863804603@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Jordan, we can play read both CDI and VideoCD. I wrote the original code > to read CDI . Brian should be able to step in and explain again. > the videocd format is not really ISO9660 compliant . yes, you can Erm. This is with the hardware you mentioned, or some other way? As I pointed out, CDI isn't even close to being ISO9660 compliant, at least you can't mount one thusly. How does one go about playing it then? Jordan From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri May 16 11:11:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA11627 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 11:11:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from garbo.lodgenet.com ([204.124.122.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA11622 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 11:11:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jake.lodgenet.com (jake.lodgenet.com [10.0.11.30]) by garbo.lodgenet.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id NAA00776; Fri, 16 May 1997 13:11:17 -0500 Received: from jake.lodgenet.com (localhost.lodgenet.com [127.0.0.1]) by jake.lodgenet.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id NAA18252; Fri, 16 May 1997 13:11:15 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199705161811.NAA18252@jake.lodgenet.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: Petri Helenius cc: "Eric L. Hernes" , Amancio Hasty , "Jordan K. Hubbard" , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Anyone know of any software for playing Video CDs? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 16 May 1997 20:06:03 +0300." <199705161706.UAA23508@silver.sms.fi> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 13:11:14 -0500 From: "Eric L. Hernes" Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Petri Helenius writes: >$400 sounds kind of steep for a card that cannot do DMA into video >memory... >(since it's an ISA card it obviously cannot DMA to PCI memory, right?) Yea, I'd agree it's pretty steep. That was last time I checked, 6 months ago or so. I guess it's not really my business, I just wrote the driver. I'm not sure off-hand why you'd want to DMA from an MPEG playback card to a video card. It will do VGA overlays, with any video card. The overlay goes via the VGA feature connector, not running through the IO bus. I think the Tailsman works the same way, but I haven't looked at it for a while. > >Pete eric. -- erich@rrnet.com http://rrnet.com/~erich erich@freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org/~erich erich@lodgenet.com From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri May 16 11:27:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA12203 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 11:27:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from elch.heim4.tu-clausthal.de (100@elch.heim4.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.244.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA12189 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 11:27:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from olli@localhost) by elch.heim4.tu-clausthal.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA15669; Fri, 16 May 1997 20:27:00 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199705161827.UAA15669@elch.heim4.tu-clausthal.de> Subject: Re: new cd-da player To: hasty@rah.star-gate.com (Amancio Hasty) Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 20:26:59 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: pete@sms.fi, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199705160849.BAA16914@rah.star-gate.com> from "Amancio Hasty" at May 16, 97 01:49:38 am From: oliver.fromme@heim3.tu-clausthal.de (Oliver Fromme) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Hmm... > Have you mentioned this to Oliver? > > Cheers, > Amancio > > >From The Desk Of Petri Helenius : > > Amancio Hasty writes: > > > Cool, > > > > > > If we hear more good reports lets move at least a reference to the > > > multimedia web page. A port and package will not hurt also. Volunteers? > > > > > I think this player lacks jittercontrol which is neccessary, specially > > with lower speed drives. My audio gets bad at times (if there is any > > significant activity on the system at the time of reading the cd) > > > > Pete I guess you are talking about my CD-DA reader called "tosha" (http://www.heim3.tu-clausthal.de/~olli/tosha/). I am well aware that it doesn't perform jitter correction at all. There are several reasons for that: - I don't have access to any CD-ROM drive that requires jitter correction. - My own CD-ROM drive doesn't work at all with jitter correction (for example, using the CDDA under DOS, I have to turn jitter correction off to get it working correctly). - It is my understanding that all newer CD-ROM drives do not require jitter correction. This is especially true for SCSI drives (tosha does not support IDE drives). Because of those reasons, I didn't take the trouble to implement jitter correction. Regards Oliver Fromme -- Oliver Fromme, Leibnizstr. 18-61, 38678 Clausthal, Germany (Info: finger userinfo:olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri May 16 11:37:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA12850 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 11:37:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from silver.sms.fi (silver.sms.fi [194.111.122.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA12845 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 11:36:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from pete@localhost) by silver.sms.fi (8.8.5/8.7.3) id VAA02434; Fri, 16 May 1997 21:36:51 +0300 (EEST) Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 21:36:51 +0300 (EEST) Message-Id: <199705161836.VAA02434@silver.sms.fi> From: Petri Helenius To: fyeung@fyeung8.netific.com (Francis Yeung) Cc: hasty@rah.star-gate.com, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: real time mpg3 encoder? In-Reply-To: <9705161708.AA13780@fyeung8.netific.com> References: <9705161708.AA13780@fyeung8.netific.com> Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Francis Yeung writes: > > Greetings, > > Correct me if I am wrong. > > I thought MPEG 3 is dead and MPEG 4 is the way to do. > As I said, there is no MPEG-3. But there is MPEG Audio Layer-3. MPEG-4 is a low-bandwidth video codec. Pete From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri May 16 11:44:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA13126 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 11:44:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from silver.sms.fi (silver.sms.fi [194.111.122.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA13121 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 11:44:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from pete@localhost) by silver.sms.fi (8.8.5/8.7.3) id VAA02474; Fri, 16 May 1997 21:44:09 +0300 (EEST) Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 21:44:09 +0300 (EEST) Message-Id: <199705161844.VAA02474@silver.sms.fi> From: Petri Helenius To: oliver.fromme@heim3.tu-clausthal.de (Oliver Fromme) Cc: hasty@rah.star-gate.com (Amancio Hasty), multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: new cd-da player In-Reply-To: <199705161827.UAA15669@elch.heim4.tu-clausthal.de> References: <199705160849.BAA16914@rah.star-gate.com> <199705161827.UAA15669@elch.heim4.tu-clausthal.de> Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Oliver Fromme writes: > > I guess you are talking about my CD-DA reader called "tosha" > (http://www.heim3.tu-clausthal.de/~olli/tosha/). I am well > aware that it doesn't perform jitter correction at all. > There are several reasons for that: > > - I don't have access to any CD-ROM drive that requires > jitter correction. > - My own CD-ROM drive doesn't work at all with jitter > correction (for example, using the CDDA under DOS, I have > to turn jitter correction off to get it working correctly). > - It is my understanding that all newer CD-ROM drives do not > require jitter correction. This is especially true for > SCSI drives (tosha does not support IDE drives). > > Because of those reasons, I didn't take the trouble to > implement jitter correction. > I have: (ahc0:6:0): "TOSHIBA CD-ROM XM-5401TA 3115" type 5 removable SCSI 2 cd0(ahc0:6:0): CD-ROM cd present [327758 x 2048 byte records] Guess this does not qualify as a 'new' drive since it's only quad-speed and I guess single-speed for CDDA applications. The problem is that I get panic's with 'cdd' application and bad (jittery) data with 'tosha' but no problem actually reading the data. I'm trying to merge parts from tosha and cdd to make a combined utility that would both do jitter correction and work with the freebsd SCSI driver without screwing it up. Pete From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri May 16 12:26:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA14729 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 12:26:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA14720 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 12:26:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id VAA07308; Fri, 16 May 1997 21:25:42 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA05172; Fri, 16 May 1997 21:18:38 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19970516211838.LF11408@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 21:18:38 +0200 From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Subject: Re: Anyone know of any software for playing Video CDs? References: <5942.863775373@time.cdrom.com> <199705161354.GAA04118@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.60_p2-3,5,8-9 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199705161354.GAA04118@rah.star-gate.com>; from Amancio Hasty on May 16, 1997 06:54:51 -0700 Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Amancio Hasty wrote: > Jordan, we can play read both CDI and VideoCD. I wrote the original code > to read CDI . Brian should be able to step in and explain again. > the videocd format is not really ISO9660 compliant . yes, you can > read the directory structure however the actual video stream is still > pretty much Phillips format and in fact the blocks are not even 2048. I suppose that's yet another vendor-specific format (like CD-DA), not covered by the SCSI-2 standard? Is it covered by SCSI-3? -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri May 16 13:07:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA16793 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 13:07:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from grolsch.cs.ubc.ca (grolsch.cs.ubc.ca [142.103.6.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA16788 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 13:07:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cascade.cs.ubc.ca (cascade.cs.ubc.ca [142.103.7.7]) by grolsch.cs.ubc.ca (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id NAA19754 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 13:07:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mkerr@localhost) by cascade.cs.ubc.ca (8.8.5/8.6.12) id NAA08935 for multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 16 May 1997 13:07:46 -0700 (PDT) From: "Michael Kerr" Message-Id: <9705161307.ZM8933@cascade.cs.ubc.ca> Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 13:07:45 -0700 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.1 10apr95) To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE, GUS PNP sound drivers, and GUS MAX Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk With the help of some kind people from I have the newer driver for gravis ultrasound plug and play with the one line modification for using it with the GUS MAX. It works! almost perfectly. sigh.. The sound driver works. All the applications can use it and duplex works great. The only problem is an error message that spews out whenever a call to the sound card drivers occurs. the message I get is. May 16 13:03:21 mercury /kernel: isa_dmastart: channel 1 busy May 16 13:03:21 mercury /kernel: isa_dmastart: channel 1 busy then it will say message repeated something like 67 times depending on length of sound file, application, etc. I have been through the code and DMAbuf_start_dma is calling isa_dmastart each time but I can't find what is calling DMAbuf_start_dma. Any suggestions would be much appreciated From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri May 16 13:45:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA18711 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 13:45:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (Ilsa.StevesCafe.com [205.168.119.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA18706 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 13:45:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA11801; Fri, 16 May 1997 14:45:20 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199705162045.OAA11801@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 From: Steve Passe To: "Michael Kerr" cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE, GUS PNP sound drivers, and GUS MAX In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 16 May 1997 13:07:45 PDT." <9705161307.ZM8933@cascade.cs.ubc.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 14:45:20 -0600 Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, > With the help of some kind people from I have the newer driver for gravis > ... > the message I get is. > May 16 13:03:21 mercury /kernel: isa_dmastart: channel 1 busy > May 16 13:03:21 mercury /kernel: isa_dmastart: channel 1 busy > > then it will say message repeated something like 67 times depending > on length of sound file, application, etc. > > I have been through the code and DMAbuf_start_dma is calling isa_dmastart each > time but I can't find what is calling DMAbuf_start_dma. > > Any suggestions would be much appreciated it is in sys/i386/isa/isa.c. this is fixed in current as of a week or 2 ago, but nowhere else. just comment it out and all will be well. -- Steve Passe | powered by smp@csn.net | Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri May 16 13:47:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA18880 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 13:47:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crh.cl.msu.edu (crh.cl.msu.edu [35.8.1.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA18874 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 13:47:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from henrich@localhost) by crh.cl.msu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA05694; Fri, 16 May 1997 16:47:09 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 16:47:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Charles Henrich Message-Id: <199705162047.QAA05694@crh.cl.msu.edu> To: j@uriah.heep.sax.de, freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anyone know of any software for playing Video CDs? Newsgroups: lists.freebsd.multimedia References: <5liddk$prh$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 CURRENT #1 Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In lists.freebsd.multimedia you write: >As Amancio Hasty wrote: >> Jordan, we can play read both CDI and VideoCD. I wrote the original code >> to read CDI . Brian should be able to step in and explain again. >> the videocd format is not really ISO9660 compliant . yes, you can >> read the directory structure however the actual video stream is still >> pretty much Phillips format and in fact the blocks are not even 2048. >I suppose that's yet another vendor-specific format (like CD-DA), >not covered by the SCSI-2 standard? >Is it covered by SCSI-3? One should be able to tell cdd to read the track as raw data and output it to stdout for processing by a videoCD application.. -Crh -- Charles Henrich Michigan State University henrich@msu.edu http://pilot.msu.edu/~henrich From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri May 16 17:08:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA27862 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 17:08:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fyeung5 (netific.vip.best.com [205.149.182.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA27855 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 17:08:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fyeung8.netific.com (fyeung8.netific.com [204.238.125.8]) by fyeung5 (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id CAA19037; Fri, 16 May 1997 02:39:00 -0700 Received: by fyeung8.netific.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA14669; Fri, 16 May 1997 14:37:04 -0700 Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 14:37:04 -0700 From: fyeung@fyeung8.netific.com (Francis Yeung) Message-Id: <9705162137.AA14669@fyeung8.netific.com> To: pete@sms.fi Subject: Re: real time mpg3 encoder? Cc: hasty@rah.star-gate.com, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Pete, Thank you for the education. Now, I understand. You folks are talking about MPEG1 layer 3 audio streams and players. MPEG1 audio can be encoded in 3 standards called layers. MPEG2 can also support MPEG1 audio. MPEG2 audio added surround sound with 5.1 channels. DVD uses MPEG2 video but MPEG2 audio only in Europe, Dolby AC3 audio in the US. In the past, most MPEG (1 and 2) players and encoders are for layer 1 and 2. Layer 3 is for low bit rate encoding and only until recently people are using layer 3 to stream high quality audio on Internet. Many thanks. Francis > From root@fyeung25.netific.com Fri May 16 14:26 PDT 1997 > Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 21:36:51 +0300 (EEST) > From: Petri Helenius > To: fyeung@fyeung8.netific.com (Francis Yeung) > Cc: hasty@rah.star-gate.com, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: real time mpg3 encoder? > > > Francis Yeung writes: > > > > Greetings, > > > > Correct me if I am wrong. > > > > I thought MPEG 3 is dead and MPEG 4 is the way to do. > > > As I said, there is no MPEG-3. But there is MPEG Audio Layer-3. > > MPEG-4 is a low-bandwidth video codec. > > Pete > > > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri May 16 18:52:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA01165 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 18:52:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA01160; Fri, 16 May 1997 18:52:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA07651; Fri, 16 May 1997 18:52:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705170152.SAA07651@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: Petri Helenius , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, joerg@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Anyone know of any software for playing Video CDs? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 16 May 1997 10:43:23 PDT." <15871.863804603@time.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 18:52:16 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The CDI and VideoCD stuff for all practical purposes behaves a lot like CD DA . Is just that the CDROM format for CDI is a Philips thingy and in the case of VideoCD the files are a Phlips thingy. The information is proprieratory and we can get into trouble if we release source code. In my case, I crack the CDI stuff and was fortunate enough that Brian's company had a license so thru Omnimedia Brian was able to release his CDI + VideoCD player. So we can decode CDI or VideoCD via software and now days also play it back using just software. For instance, if mtv had a library api to interface to CDI or VideoCD the Pentium Pros 200Mhs shouldn't have too much of problem playing back the mpeg streams. Cheers, Amancio >From The Desk Of "Jordan K. Hubbard" : > > Jordan, we can play read both CDI and VideoCD. I wrote the original code > > to read CDI . Brian should be able to step in and explain again. > > the videocd format is not really ISO9660 compliant . yes, you can > > Erm. This is with the hardware you mentioned, or some other way? > As I pointed out, CDI isn't even close to being ISO9660 compliant, > at least you can't mount one thusly. How does one go about playing > it then? > > Jordan From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri May 16 19:01:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA01362 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 19:01:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA01357 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 19:00:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA07736; Fri, 16 May 1997 19:00:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705170200.TAA07736@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: fyeung@fyeung8.netific.com (Francis Yeung) cc: pete@sms.fi, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: real time mpg3 encoder? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 16 May 1997 14:37:04 PDT." <9705162137.AA14669@fyeung8.netific.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 19:00:56 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Actually, mpeg1 layer 3 is very very nice codec for cool audio broadcasts it is much better than PCM 8) Now the other missing piece is a high performance video codec and for now H.263 is out. Cheers, Amancio >From The Desk Of Francis Yeung : > > Pete, > > Thank you for the education. > > Now, I understand. > > You folks are talking about MPEG1 layer 3 audio streams and > players. MPEG1 audio can be encoded in 3 standards called layers. > MPEG2 can also support MPEG1 audio. MPEG2 audio added surround sound > with 5.1 channels. DVD uses MPEG2 video but MPEG2 audio only in > Europe, Dolby AC3 audio in the US. In the past, most MPEG (1 > and 2) players and encoders are for layer 1 and 2. Layer 3 is for > low bit rate encoding and only until recently people are using layer > 3 to stream high quality audio on Internet. > > Many thanks. > > Francis > > > > From root@fyeung25.netific.com Fri May 16 14:26 PDT 1997 > > Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 21:36:51 +0300 (EEST) > > From: Petri Helenius > > To: fyeung@fyeung8.netific.com (Francis Yeung) > > Cc: hasty@rah.star-gate.com, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG > > Subject: Re: real time mpg3 encoder? > > > > > > Francis Yeung writes: > > > > > > Greetings, > > > > > > Correct me if I am wrong. > > > > > > I thought MPEG 3 is dead and MPEG 4 is the way to do. > > > > > As I said, there is no MPEG-3. But there is MPEG Audio Layer-3. > > > > MPEG-4 is a low-bandwidth video codec. > > > > Pete > > > > > > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri May 16 19:03:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA01464 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 19:03:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA01459 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 19:03:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA07785; Fri, 16 May 1997 19:03:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705170203.TAA07785@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Petri Helenius cc: oliver.fromme@heim3.tu-clausthal.de (Oliver Fromme), multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: new cd-da player In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 16 May 1997 21:44:09 +0300." <199705161844.VAA02474@silver.sms.fi> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 19:03:50 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Well, I dont have any problems with my TOSHIBA CD-ROM XM-3701TA Will try hard tonite to see if it crashes my system. Cheers, Amancio >From The Desk Of Petri Helenius : > Oliver Fromme writes: > > > > I guess you are talking about my CD-DA reader called "tosha" > > (http://www.heim3.tu-clausthal.de/~olli/tosha/). I am well > > aware that it doesn't perform jitter correction at all. > > There are several reasons for that: > > > > - I don't have access to any CD-ROM drive that requires > > jitter correction. > > - My own CD-ROM drive doesn't work at all with jitter > > correction (for example, using the CDDA under DOS, I have > > to turn jitter correction off to get it working correctly). > > - It is my understanding that all newer CD-ROM drives do not > > require jitter correction. This is especially true for > > SCSI drives (tosha does not support IDE drives). > > > > Because of those reasons, I didn't take the trouble to > > implement jitter correction. > > > I have: > (ahc0:6:0): "TOSHIBA CD-ROM XM-5401TA 3115" type 5 removable SCSI 2 > cd0(ahc0:6:0): CD-ROM cd present [327758 x 2048 byte records] > > Guess this does not qualify as a 'new' drive since it's only > quad-speed and I guess single-speed for CDDA applications. The problem > is that I get panic's with 'cdd' application and bad (jittery) data > with 'tosha' but no problem actually reading the data. > > I'm trying to merge parts from tosha and cdd to make a combined > utility that would both do jitter correction and work with the freebsd > SCSI driver without screwing it up. > > Pete From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri May 16 20:19:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA04543 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 20:19:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA04535; Fri, 16 May 1997 20:19:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id UAA21100; Fri, 16 May 1997 20:19:36 -0700 (PDT) To: Amancio Hasty cc: Petri Helenius , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, joerg@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Anyone know of any software for playing Video CDs? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 16 May 1997 18:52:16 PDT." <199705170152.SAA07651@rah.star-gate.com> Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 20:19:36 -0700 Message-ID: <21096.863839176@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > So we can decode CDI or VideoCD via software and now days also play it > back using just software. For instance, if mtv had a library api to > interface to CDI or VideoCD the Pentium Pros 200Mhs shouldn't have > too much of problem playing back the mpeg streams. But.. but.. How? If I can't even read the data off the CD, I fail to see how I could play it. :-) Jordan From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri May 16 20:36:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA05119 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 20:36:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whizzo.transsys.com (whizzo.TransSys.COM [144.202.42.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA05114 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 20:36:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.transsys.com (localhost.transsys.com [127.0.0.1]) by whizzo.transsys.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA12567; Fri, 16 May 1997 23:36:19 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199705170336.XAA12567@whizzo.transsys.com> To: Amancio Hasty cc: Petri Helenius , oliver.fromme@heim3.tu-clausthal.de (Oliver Fromme), multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Louis A. Mamakos" Subject: Re: new cd-da player References: <199705170203.TAA07785@rah.star-gate.com> In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 16 May 1997 19:03:50 PDT." <199705170203.TAA07785@rah.star-gate.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 23:36:19 -0400 Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'v read 3 or 4 tracks from a CD using tosha, without any problems at all. I'm running a few day old 3.0-current, and my CDROM drive is cd0 at scbus0 target 3 lun 0 cd0: type 5 removable SCSI 2 cd0: CD-ROM cd0: 4.0 MB/s (250 ns, offset 8) which is on a ncr0 rev 2 int a irq 15 on pci0:20:0 In particular, it's able to read audio tracks off this drive which cdd was unable to. The cdd program would begin to read the data, and the go into this infinite retry loop (in the application, not the driver). louie From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri May 16 20:38:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA05162 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 20:38:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA05155; Fri, 16 May 1997 20:38:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA08505; Fri, 16 May 1997 20:38:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705170338.UAA08505@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: Petri Helenius , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, joerg@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Anyone know of any software for playing Video CDs? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 16 May 1997 20:19:36 PDT." <21096.863839176@time.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 20:38:37 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Let me make it plain . I can't tell you because along the way I signed an NDA with Omnimedia . Now if you talk nicely to Brian Litzinger he should be able to set you up. Cheers, Amancio >From The Desk Of "Jordan K. Hubbard" : > > So we can decode CDI or VideoCD via software and now days also play it > > back using just software. For instance, if mtv had a library api to > > interface to CDI or VideoCD the Pentium Pros 200Mhs shouldn't have > > too much of problem playing back the mpeg streams. > > But.. but.. How? If I can't even read the data off the CD, I fail > to see how I could play it. :-) > > Jordan From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri May 16 20:43:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA05337 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 20:43:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA05332; Fri, 16 May 1997 20:43:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id UAA21305; Fri, 16 May 1997 20:44:06 -0700 (PDT) To: Amancio Hasty cc: Petri Helenius , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, joerg@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Anyone know of any software for playing Video CDs? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 16 May 1997 20:38:37 PDT." <199705170338.UAA08505@rah.star-gate.com> Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 20:44:05 -0700 Message-ID: <21299.863840645@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Let me make it plain . I can't tell you because along the way I signed > an NDA with Omnimedia . Now if you talk nicely to Brian Litzinger he ^^^^^^^^^ Argh. So we're back to hardware assist again? I guess we've passed what can be reasonably discussed in such an oblique fashion so I'll just go away now with the conclusion that no, it can't be done and maybe if you had Amancio's Special Secret Setup you could do it but we don't so we can't. :-) Either that or we've hit the language barrier again, I don't know which. All I *do* know is that I'm now more confused about this than when we started, so I'll quit while I'm behind and put all these stupid video CDs back on the shelf, to wait for DVD. ;-) Jordan From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri May 16 20:55:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA05892 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 20:55:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from silver.sms.fi (silver.sms.fi [194.111.122.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA05887; Fri, 16 May 1997 20:55:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from pete@localhost) by silver.sms.fi (8.8.5/8.7.3) id GAA05978; Sat, 17 May 1997 06:55:04 +0300 (EEST) Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 06:55:04 +0300 (EEST) Message-Id: <199705170355.GAA05978@silver.sms.fi> From: Petri Helenius To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: Amancio Hasty , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, joerg@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Anyone know of any software for playing Video CDs? In-Reply-To: <21096.863839176@time.cdrom.com> References: <199705170152.SAA07651@rah.star-gate.com> <21096.863839176@time.cdrom.com> Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Jordan K. Hubbard writes: > > So we can decode CDI or VideoCD via software and now days also play it > > back using just software. For instance, if mtv had a library api to > > interface to CDI or VideoCD the Pentium Pros 200Mhs shouldn't have > > too much of problem playing back the mpeg streams. > > But.. but.. How? If I can't even read the data off the CD, I fail > to see how I could play it. :-) > You read the data from the CD with a program called 'cdd' or for that matter, maybe 'tosha'. Pete From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri May 16 21:03:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA06178 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 21:03:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from silver.sms.fi (silver.sms.fi [194.111.122.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA06166; Fri, 16 May 1997 21:03:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from pete@localhost) by silver.sms.fi (8.8.5/8.7.3) id HAA06056; Sat, 17 May 1997 07:03:05 +0300 (EEST) Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 07:03:05 +0300 (EEST) Message-Id: <199705170403.HAA06056@silver.sms.fi> From: Petri Helenius To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: Amancio Hasty , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, joerg@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Anyone know of any software for playing Video CDs? In-Reply-To: <21299.863840645@time.cdrom.com> References: <199705170338.UAA08505@rah.star-gate.com> <21299.863840645@time.cdrom.com> Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Jordan K. Hubbard writes: > > Either that or we've hit the language barrier again, I don't know > which. All I *do* know is that I'm now more confused about this than > when we started, so I'll quit while I'm behind and put all these > stupid video CDs back on the shelf, to wait for DVD. ;-) > Just pick up a DVD player (either external box or DVD ROM with a decoder card) from your favourite store. Creative's DVD-ROM with decoder card seems to be $499. Pete From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri May 16 21:07:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA06300 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 21:07:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA06295; Fri, 16 May 1997 21:07:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA08816; Fri, 16 May 1997 21:07:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705170407.VAA08816@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: Petri Helenius , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, joerg@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Anyone know of any software for playing Video CDs? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 16 May 1997 20:44:05 PDT." <21299.863840645@time.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 21:07:19 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >From The Desk Of "Jordan K. Hubbard" : > > Let me make it plain . I can't tell you because along the way I signed > > an NDA with Omnimedia . Now if you talk nicely to Brian Litzinger he > ^^^^^^^^^ > > Argh. So we're back to hardware assist again? I guess we've passed The answer is that you don't need hardware assist now days. The way to bypass the Philips Dragonian licensing is to ask Brian to write a library api for the code he has to decode CDI and VideoCD. Once that such a library starts streaming an MPEG system stream you can feed it to anything a file for instance or have a program such as mtv play it back. Currently, mtv does not have such a hook however it should not be hard at all for the author to implement. Amancio > what can be reasonably discussed in such an oblique fashion so I'll > just go away now with the conclusion that no, it can't be done and > maybe if you had Amancio's Special Secret Setup you could do it but we > don't so we can't. :-) > > Either that or we've hit the language barrier again, I don't know > which. All I *do* know is that I'm now more confused about this than > when we started, so I'll quit while I'm behind and put all these > stupid video CDs back on the shelf, to wait for DVD. ;-) > > Jordan From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri May 16 21:12:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA06461 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 21:12:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA06454; Fri, 16 May 1997 21:12:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id VAA21470; Fri, 16 May 1997 21:12:04 -0700 (PDT) To: Petri Helenius cc: Amancio Hasty , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, joerg@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Anyone know of any software for playing Video CDs? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 17 May 1997 07:03:05 +0300." <199705170403.HAA06056@silver.sms.fi> Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 21:12:03 -0700 Message-ID: <21466.863842323@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Just pick up a DVD player (either external box or DVD ROM with a > decoder card) from your favourite store. Creative's DVD-ROM with > decoder card seems to be $499. Yeah, I saw those at CompUSA just last week. I'm still waiting for the SCSI models to arrive. :-) Jordan From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri May 16 21:19:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA06577 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 21:19:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crh.cl.msu.edu (crh.cl.msu.edu [35.8.1.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA06572 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 21:19:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from henrich@localhost) by crh.cl.msu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA11258; Sat, 17 May 1997 00:19:30 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 00:19:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Charles Henrich Message-Id: <199705170419.AAA11258@crh.cl.msu.edu> To: louie@TransSys.COM, freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: new cd-da player Newsgroups: lists.freebsd.multimedia References: <5lja9e$4a6$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 CURRENT #1 Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In lists.freebsd.multimedia you write: >In particular, it's able to read audio tracks off this drive which >cdd was unable to. The cdd program would begin to read the data, >and the go into this infinite retry loop (in the application, not >the driver). Okay, I fixed that problem, Its been there for a long time. What it does now is after attempting to recover for its full buffer it gives up and tries rereading the entire track. When a CD is dirty, or scratched, or has some other defect that causes your CD player to be unable to read that track cleanly, you will see this behavior. CDD is trying to recover but no luck. In these cases you should take some windex or other CD cleaner to the CD and see if that doesnt fix your problem (It always has for me). Also, in the newest version of CDD (I put it up today) I added a -nojc option, which allows you to turn off jitter correction (which of course will eliminate that looping problem). From the README: (*) Jitter correction is a method whereby extra effort is taken to ensure that the data retrieved off of the CD is clean. This is absolutely necessarily on older/cheaper mechs, however on the latest Plextor's you may get away without it. However, should the disc have any defects, or surface problems you could end up with a corrupted audio file. I.e. I never use this feature! Its only there for those who are impatient, because it can speed up the process by 2-5x depending on the hardware you have. If during normal audio grabs the overlap distance is ALWAYS 0 (except for the last frame) this may actually work for you. If this is NOT the case, do not use this feature, IT WILL NOT WORK! And folks, I am very interested in making this work for people, so if your having trouble, please drop me a note and I'll do my best to help figure it out. -Crh -- Charles Henrich Michigan State University henrich@msu.edu http://pilot.msu.edu/~henrich From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri May 16 21:21:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA06669 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 21:21:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from silver.sms.fi (silver.sms.fi [194.111.122.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA06663 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 21:21:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from pete@localhost) by silver.sms.fi (8.8.5/8.7.3) id HAA06130; Sat, 17 May 1997 07:21:19 +0300 (EEST) Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 07:21:19 +0300 (EEST) Message-Id: <199705170421.HAA06130@silver.sms.fi> From: Petri Helenius To: fyeung@fyeung8.netific.com (Francis Yeung) Cc: hasty@rah.star-gate.com, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: real time mpg3 encoder? In-Reply-To: <9705162137.AA14669@fyeung8.netific.com> References: <9705162137.AA14669@fyeung8.netific.com> Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Francis Yeung writes: > > Pete, > > Thank you for the education. > > Now, I understand. > > You folks are talking about MPEG1 layer 3 audio streams and > players. MPEG1 audio can be encoded in 3 standards called layers. > MPEG2 can also support MPEG1 audio. MPEG2 audio added surround sound > with 5.1 channels. DVD uses MPEG2 video but MPEG2 audio only in > Europe, Dolby AC3 audio in the US. In the past, most MPEG (1 > and 2) players and encoders are for layer 1 and 2. Layer 3 is for > low bit rate encoding and only until recently people are using layer > 3 to stream high quality audio on Internet. > Actually, layer 3 is more of high quality than low bitrate. The low bitrate for the quality kind of comes along. 128kbps layer-3 audio pretty much beats other layer codecs regardless of bitrate. Pete From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri May 16 21:52:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA07443 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 21:52:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA07438; Fri, 16 May 1997 21:52:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA00406; Fri, 16 May 1997 21:52:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705170452.VAA00406@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Petri Helenius cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, joerg@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Anyone know of any software for playing Video CDs? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 17 May 1997 07:03:05 +0300." <199705170403.HAA06056@silver.sms.fi> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 21:52:31 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk And how are you proposing that he plays his CDI or VideCDs? You see he will still be face with the problem of having a program to extract the mpeg video stream off his CDI or VideoCDs. In the case of the hardware decoder someone will have to write a driver for it. I just want to know what part of the following statement you don't understand : "The way to bypass the Philips Dragonian licensing is to ask Brian to write a library api for the code he has to decode CDI and VideoCD." >From The Desk Of Petri Helenius : > Jordan K. Hubbard writes: > > > > Either that or we've hit the language barrier again, I don't know > > which. All I *do* know is that I'm now more confused about this than > > when we started, so I'll quit while I'm behind and put all these > > stupid video CDs back on the shelf, to wait for DVD. ;-) > > > Just pick up a DVD player (either external box or DVD ROM with a > decoder card) from your favourite store. Creative's DVD-ROM with > decoder card seems to be $499. > > Pete From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri May 16 22:03:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA07719 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 22:03:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from silver.sms.fi (silver.sms.fi [194.111.122.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA07712; Fri, 16 May 1997 22:03:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from pete@localhost) by silver.sms.fi (8.8.5/8.7.3) id IAA06191; Sat, 17 May 1997 08:03:12 +0300 (EEST) Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 08:03:12 +0300 (EEST) Message-Id: <199705170503.IAA06191@silver.sms.fi> From: Petri Helenius To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: Amancio Hasty , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, joerg@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Anyone know of any software for playing Video CDs? In-Reply-To: <21466.863842323@time.cdrom.com> References: <199705170403.HAA06056@silver.sms.fi> <21466.863842323@time.cdrom.com> Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Jordan K. Hubbard writes: > > Just pick up a DVD player (either external box or DVD ROM with a > > decoder card) from your favourite store. Creative's DVD-ROM with > > decoder card seems to be $499. > > Yeah, I saw those at CompUSA just last week. I'm still waiting > for the SCSI models to arrive. :-) > I should be noted though that at least PC magazine thought that the decoder card leaves quality to be desired. As in other hand all of the current DVD-players are accounted as having stunning picture quality. Pete From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri May 16 22:10:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA08005 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 22:10:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA07992; Fri, 16 May 1997 22:10:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA00668; Fri, 16 May 1997 22:10:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705170510.WAA00668@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Petri Helenius cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, joerg@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Anyone know of any software for playing Video CDs? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 17 May 1997 08:03:12 +0300." <199705170503.IAA06191@silver.sms.fi> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 22:10:10 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk New hardware is on its way with stereo quality. The trick is to get enough info to write a driver. Amancio >From The Desk Of Petri Helenius : > Jordan K. Hubbard writes: > > > Just pick up a DVD player (either external box or DVD ROM with a > > > decoder card) from your favourite store. Creative's DVD-ROM with > > > decoder card seems to be $499. > > > > Yeah, I saw those at CompUSA just last week. I'm still waiting > > for the SCSI models to arrive. :-) > > > I should be noted though that at least PC magazine thought that the > decoder card leaves quality to be desired. > As in other hand all of the current DVD-players are accounted as > having stunning picture quality. > > Pete From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri May 16 22:13:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA08149 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 22:13:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from silver.sms.fi (silver.sms.fi [194.111.122.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA08144; Fri, 16 May 1997 22:13:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from pete@localhost) by silver.sms.fi (8.8.5/8.7.3) id IAA06331; Sat, 17 May 1997 08:13:46 +0300 (EEST) Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 08:13:46 +0300 (EEST) Message-Id: <199705170513.IAA06331@silver.sms.fi> From: Petri Helenius To: Amancio Hasty Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, joerg@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Anyone know of any software for playing Video CDs? In-Reply-To: <199705170510.WAA00668@rah.star-gate.com> References: <199705170503.IAA06191@silver.sms.fi> <199705170510.WAA00668@rah.star-gate.com> Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Amancio Hasty writes: > New hardware is on its way with stereo quality. The trick is to get > enough info to write a driver. > Excuse me, but I fail to understand what 'stereo quality' means in the context of DVD player? Pete From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat May 17 09:21:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA29968 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 17 May 1997 09:21:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bmccane.uit.net (bmccane.uit.net [208.129.189.48]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA29962 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 09:21:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bmccane.uit.net (localhost.mccane.com [127.0.0.1]) by bmccane.uit.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA24522 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 11:20:59 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199705171620.LAA24522@bmccane.uit.net> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Sound Drivers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 11:20:58 -0500 From: Wm Brian McCane Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Morning (I know it's relative 8), I was curious what features the current Sound Drivers require to be compatible with the OSS drivers. I would prefer to help develop or maintain the current version of Sound Drivers and thus keep ours a truly `Free' OS, instead of letting the drivers fall in to disrepair. In my opinion this would just add one more thing that most people want to have and are required to pay for (can you say hidden costs?), making our OS a little less appealing to some. brian +-------------------------------------+----------------------------------------+ He rides a cycle of mighty days, and \ Wm Brian and Lori McCane he represents the last great schizm \ McCane Consulting among the gods. Evil though he obviously \ root@bmccane.uit.net is, he is a mighty figure, this father of \ http://bmccane.uit.net/ my spirit, and I respect him as the sons \ http://bmccane.uit.net/~pictures/ of old did the fathers of their bodies. \ http://bmccane.uit.net/~bmccane/ Roger Zelazny - "Lord of Light" \ http://bmccane.uit.net/~bbs/ +---------------------------------------------+--------------------------------+ From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat May 17 10:02:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA01840 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 17 May 1997 10:02:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from uhf.wdc.net (uhf.wdc.net [198.147.74.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA01834 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 10:02:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by uhf.wdc.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA00265 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 13:02:38 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 13:02:37 -0400 (EDT) From: To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: PAL WinCast/TV card Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >From dmesg: ... bktr0 rev 17 int a irq 10 on pci0:11 Hauppauge WinCast/TV, Temic PAL tuner. ... Looks like they sent me a stereo card, but also a PAL tuner. Do all Wincast boards say PAL? Is there any way to make the PAL tuner actualy receive NTSC? Thanks. Bernie Doehner bad@uhf.wireless.net From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat May 17 11:18:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA05147 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 17 May 1997 11:18:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (Ilsa.StevesCafe.com [205.168.119.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA05142 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 11:17:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA18957; Sat, 17 May 1997 12:17:43 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199705171817.MAA18957@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 From: Steve Passe To: root@uhf.wireless.net cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PAL WinCast/TV card In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 17 May 1997 13:02:37 EDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 12:17:43 -0600 Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, > >From dmesg: > > ... > bktr0 rev 17 int a irq 10 on pci0:11 > Hauppauge WinCast/TV, Temic PAL tuner. > ... > > Looks like they sent me a stereo card, but also a PAL tuner. Do all > Wincast boards say PAL? Is there any way to make the PAL tuner actualy > receive NTSC? this looks to be a mono card, if stereo it would say: Hauppauge WinCast/TV, Temic PAL tuner, dbx stereo. ^^^^^^^^^^ if it truly is a PAL tuner it won't tune NTSC. The probe code isn't well tested but I've never seen it mistake an NTSC card for a PAL card. -- Steve Passe | powered by smp@csn.net | Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat May 17 14:15:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA12085 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 17 May 1997 14:15:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from uhf.wdc.net (uhf.wdc.net [198.147.74.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA12077 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 14:15:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (bad@localhost) by uhf.wdc.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA00366 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 17:15:29 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 17:15:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Bernie Doehner To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Wincast/TV troubles (Temic PAL tuner) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi Amancio/Steve/Gang: Thanks for your help in creating bktr0 and mixer0. I just fired up dtv and then fxtv to make sure I really do have the PAL version and that the probe wasn't just getting it wrong. Of course it complained about not being able to open /dev/mixer since I don't have a soundcard, but a few seconds later, I also got: May 17 16:05:29 uhf /kernel: bktr0: ioctl: tsleep error 35 1000694 The second time I used fxtv I used it for more than 60 minutes, and the following happened: May 17 15:13:21 uhf /kernel: bktr0: ioctl: tsleep error 35 1000624 May 17 15:16:21 uhf /kernel: bktr0: ioctl: tsleep error 35 10002a4 May 17 15:17:46 uhf /kernel: bktr0: ioctl: tsleep error 35 100087c May 17 15:18:33 uhf /kernel: wd0s1e: wdintr: timeout waiting for status writing fsbn 1376352 of 1376352-1376367 (wd0s1 bn 1482848; cn 1471 tn 1 sn 17)wd0: status d0 error 0 May 17 15:19:26 uhf /kernel: wd0s1e: wdstart: timeout waiting to give command writing fsbn 1376352 of 1376352-1376367 (wd0s1 bn 1482848; cn 1471 tn 1 sn 17)wd0: status d0 error 0 May 17 15:19:26 uhf /kernel: wd0s1e: wdintr: timeout waiting for status writing fsbn 1966288 of 1966288-1966303 (wd0s1 bn 2072784; cn 2056 tn 5 sn 21)wd0: status d0 error 1 May 17 15:19:26 uhf /kernel: wd0s1e: wdstart: timeout waiting to give command writing fsbn 1966288 of 1966288-1966303 (wd0s1 bn 2072784; cn 2056 tn 5 sn 21)wd0: status d0 error 1 May 17 15:19:26 uhf /kernel: wd0a: wdstart: timeout waiting to give command writing fsbn 64 of 64-79 (wd0 bn 64; cn 0 tn 1 sn 1)wd0: status d0 error 1 May 17 15:19:26 uhf /kernel: pid 121 (mountd), uid 0: exited on signal 10 (core dumped)p no matter if I use dtv or fxtv. Needless to say, CRASH and BURN at this point. And pretty badly - resulted in major filesystem damange, including tons of zero length directories, and duplicate inodes. Luckily not much of importance has been lost, but it could have been worse. Lastly, my "full dmesg" in case some of you can possible problems from this: (PCI devices ed2 and vga0 work just fine - my PCI allocation is "automatic" whatever that means - I find it odd that bktr0 and vga0 are sitting on the same int and irq, but then I don't know anything about PCI irq sharing). Copyright (c) 1992-1996 FreeBSD Inc. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE #0: Sat May 17 11:12:10 EDT 1997 root@uhf.wireless.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/gw CPU: AMD Unknown (486-class CPU) Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x494 Stepping=4 Features=0x1 real memory = 50331648 (49152K bytes) avail memory = 46395392 (45308K bytes) Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: chip0 rev 49 on pci0:5 bktr0 rev 17 int a irq 9 on pci0:11 Hauppauge WinCast/TV, Temic PAL tuner. ed2 rev 0 int a irq 10 on pci0:13 ed2: address 48:54:e8:21:3a:58, type NE2000 (16 bit) vga0 rev 6 int a irq 9 on pci0:15 Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16550A sio2 at 0x3e8-0x3ef irq 5 on isa sio2: type 16550A sio3 not found at 0x2e8 lpt0 at 0x278-0x27f irq 7 on isa lpt0: Interrupt-driven port lp0: TCP/IP capable interface fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: NEC 72065B fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 flags 0x80ff80ff on isa wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): , 32-bit, multi-block-32 wd0: 1039MB (2127888 sectors), 2111 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc0: unit 1 (wd1): , 32-bit, multi-block-16 wd1: 202MB (415380 sectors), 989 cyls, 12 heads, 35 S/T, 512 B/S wdc1: disabled, not probed. wl0 at 0x390-0x39f irq 11 on isa wl0: address 08:00:0e:21:14:58, NWID 0xc201 npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface I am not an expert (by any means) at multimedia, so it's quite possible I made a mistake somewhere. I am prepared to create a temporary account on this machine for current users on freefall in case you think having a look at the machine localy would help. Looking forward to your help/comments/suggestions. Bernie P.S. If you prefer talking to me with Unix talk, type "talk root@uhf.wireless.net". If I am here, I'll definitely answer. From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat May 17 15:07:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA16888 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 17 May 1997 15:07:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA16865 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 15:07:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA22806; Sat, 17 May 1997 15:07:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705172207.PAA22806@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Bernie Doehner cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Wincast/TV troubles (Temic PAL tuner) In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 17 May 1997 17:15:28 EDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 15:07:39 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I suspect that your problem is the chip0 rev 49 on pci0:5 Most likely that PCI chipset is not PCI 2.1 compliant. Amancio >From The Desk Of Bernie Doehner : > Hi Amancio/Steve/Gang: > > Thanks for your help in creating bktr0 and mixer0. > > I just fired up dtv and then fxtv to make sure I really do have the PAL versi on > and that the probe wasn't just getting it wrong. > > Of course it complained about not being able to open /dev/mixer since I don't have a soundcard, but a few seconds later, I also got: > > May 17 16:05:29 uhf /kernel: bktr0: ioctl: tsleep error 35 1000694 > > The second time I used fxtv I used it for more than 60 minutes, and the > following happened: > > May 17 15:13:21 uhf /kernel: bktr0: ioctl: tsleep error 35 1000624 > May 17 15:16:21 uhf /kernel: bktr0: ioctl: tsleep error 35 10002a4 > May 17 15:17:46 uhf /kernel: bktr0: ioctl: tsleep error 35 100087c > May 17 15:18:33 uhf /kernel: wd0s1e: wdintr: timeout waiting for status writi ng fsbn 1376352 of 1376352-1376367 (wd0s1 bn 1482848; cn 1471 tn 1 sn 17)wd0: s tatus d0 error 0 > May 17 15:19:26 uhf /kernel: wd0s1e: wdstart: timeout waiting to give command writing fsbn 1376352 of 1376352-1376367 (wd0s1 bn 1482848; cn 1471 tn 1 sn 17) wd0: status d0 error 0 > May 17 15:19:26 uhf /kernel: wd0s1e: wdintr: timeout waiting for status writi ng fsbn 1966288 of 1966288-1966303 (wd0s1 bn 2072784; cn 2056 tn 5 sn 21)wd0: s tatus d0 error 1 > May 17 15:19:26 uhf /kernel: wd0s1e: wdstart: timeout waiting to give command writing fsbn 1966288 of 1966288-1966303 (wd0s1 bn 2072784; cn 2056 tn 5 sn 21) wd0: status d0 error 1 > May 17 15:19:26 uhf /kernel: wd0a: wdstart: timeout waiting to give command w riting fsbn 64 of 64-79 (wd0 bn 64; cn 0 tn 1 sn 1)wd0: status d0 error 1 > May 17 15:19:26 uhf /kernel: pid 121 (mountd), uid 0: exited on signal 10 (co re dumped)p no matter if I use dtv or fxtv. > > Needless to say, CRASH and BURN at this point. And pretty badly - resulted in > major filesystem damange, including tons of zero length directories, and > duplicate inodes. Luckily not much of importance has been lost, but it could have been worse. > Lastly, my "full dmesg" in case some of you can possible problems from this: > (PCI devices ed2 and vga0 work just fine - my PCI allocation is "automatic" > whatever that means - I find it odd that bktr0 and vga0 are sitting on the sa me int and irq, but then I don't know anything about PCI irq sharing). > > > Copyright (c) 1992-1996 FreeBSD Inc. > Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 > The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. > > FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE #0: Sat May 17 11:12:10 EDT 1997 > root@uhf.wireless.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/gw > CPU: AMD Unknown (486-class CPU) > Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x494 Stepping=4 > Features=0x1 > real memory = 50331648 (49152K bytes) > avail memory = 46395392 (45308K bytes) > Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: > chip0 rev 49 on pci0:5 > bktr0 rev 17 int a irq 9 on pci0:11 > Hauppauge WinCast/TV, Temic PAL tuner. > ed2 rev 0 int a irq 10 on pci0:13 > ed2: address 48:54:e8:21:3a:58, type NE2000 (16 bit) > vga0 rev 6 int a irq 9 on pci0:15 > Probing for devices on the ISA bus: > sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard > sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> > sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa > sio0: type 16550A > sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa > sio1: type 16550A > sio2 at 0x3e8-0x3ef irq 5 on isa > sio2: type 16550A > sio3 not found at 0x2e8 > lpt0 at 0x278-0x27f irq 7 on isa > lpt0: Interrupt-driven port > lp0: TCP/IP capable interface > fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa > fdc0: NEC 72065B > fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in > wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 flags 0x80ff80ff on isa > wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): , 32-bit, multi-block-32 > wd0: 1039MB (2127888 sectors), 2111 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S > wdc0: unit 1 (wd1): , 32-bit, multi-block-16 > wd1: 202MB (415380 sectors), 989 cyls, 12 heads, 35 S/T, 512 B/S > wdc1: disabled, not probed. > wl0 at 0x390-0x39f irq 11 on isa > wl0: address 08:00:0e:21:14:58, NWID 0xc201 > npx0 on motherboard > npx0: INT 16 interface > > > I am not an expert (by any means) at multimedia, so it's quite possible I mad e a mistake somewhere. > > I am prepared to create a temporary account on this machine for current users > on freefall in case you think having a look at the machine localy would help. > > Looking forward to your help/comments/suggestions. > > Bernie > > P.S. If you prefer talking to me with Unix talk, type "talk root@uhf.wireless .net". If I am here, I'll definitely answer. > > > > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat May 17 15:13:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA17324 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 17 May 1997 15:13:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA17319; Sat, 17 May 1997 15:13:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA22849; Sat, 17 May 1997 15:13:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705172213.PAA22849@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Brian Litzinger cc: jkh@freebsd.org, multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: mpeg stuff... In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 17 May 1997 13:22:13 PDT." <19970517132213.46651@mpress.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 15:13:08 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Care to lend a hand? Basically, Jordan wants to extract the mpeg stream from his VideoCDs and CDI disks. Didn't you have a version of your tm player which could dump the mpeg stream to a file? Also, if you can provide a library to interface to CDIs or VideoCDs it would be fantastic . Such a library would allow other programs such as mtv to play mpeg system streams. Tnks, Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat May 17 16:08:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA18766 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 17 May 1997 16:08:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from uhf.wdc.net (uhf.4d.net [207.137.157.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA18761 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 16:08:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (bad@localhost) by uhf.wdc.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA00345; Sat, 17 May 1997 19:08:29 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 19:08:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Bernie Doehner To: Amancio Hasty cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Wincast/TV troubles (Temic PAL tuner) In-Reply-To: <199705172207.PAA22806@rah.star-gate.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I suspect that your problem is the chip0 rev 49 on pci0:5 > > Most likely that PCI chipset is not PCI 2.1 compliant. > > Amancio Oh no! God how hardware ages! I suppose not being PCI 2.1 compliant could easily cause the probe to incorrectly determine the type of card. Is there a program (BSD or DOS) that can test PCI 2.1 compliance on a motherboard? If I were to buy a Pentium MB now, can I be reasonably certain that something with a VX or FX chipset is indeed PCI 2.1 comliant? Thanks! Bernie From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat May 17 16:30:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA19269 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 17 May 1997 16:30:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stevenson.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (stevenson144.cogsci.ed.ac.uk [129.215.144.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA19264 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 16:30:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pitcairn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (pitcairn [129.215.197.19]) by stevenson.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA19502; Sun, 18 May 1997 00:30:17 +0100 (BST) Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 00:30:17 +0100 Message-Id: <18258.199705172330@pitcairn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk> From: Richard Tobin Subject: Re: PAL WinCast/TV card To: , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: root@uhf.wireless.net's message of Sat, 17 May 1997 13:02:37 -0400 (EDT) Organization: just say no Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Looks like they sent me a stereo card, but also a PAL tuner. Do all > Wincast boards say PAL? What does the label on the tuner say? -- Richard From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat May 17 17:40:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA21656 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 17 May 1997 17:40:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from uhf.wdc.net (uhf.4d.net [207.137.157.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA21651 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 17:40:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (bad@localhost) by uhf.wdc.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA00520; Sat, 17 May 1997 20:40:28 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 20:40:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Bernie Doehner To: Richard Tobin cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PAL WinCast/TV card In-Reply-To: <18258.199705172330@pitcairn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Looks like they sent me a stereo card, but also a PAL tuner. Do all > > Wincast boards say PAL? > > What does the label on the tuner say? > Hmmm. It says WinCast/TV NTSC - can I trust this? Next thing I try is upgrading the BIOS. Bernie From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat May 17 18:28:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA23691 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 17 May 1997 18:28:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (Ilsa.StevesCafe.com [205.168.119.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA23686 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 18:28:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA20264; Sat, 17 May 1997 19:27:59 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199705180127.TAA20264@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 From: Steve Passe To: Bernie Doehner cc: Richard Tobin , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PAL WinCast/TV card In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 17 May 1997 20:40:27 EDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 19:27:59 -0600 Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, > > > Looks like they sent me a stereo card, but also a PAL tuner. Do all > > > Wincast boards say PAL? > > > > What does the label on the tuner say? > > > > Hmmm. It says WinCast/TV NTSC - can I trust this? I would say so, evidently the probe is failing. I'd pursue the PCI compliance theory... -- Steve Passe | powered by smp@csn.net | Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat May 17 18:38:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA24283 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 17 May 1997 18:38:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spacehog.structured.net (ppp-dialup4.sns-access.com [206.58.222.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA24275; Sat, 17 May 1997 18:38:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spacehog.structured.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spacehog.structured.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA02033; Sat, 17 May 1997 18:38:11 GMT Message-ID: <337DFB13.CEF5C9BA@spacehog.structured.net> Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 18:38:11 +0000 From: Justin Ashworth Reply-To: ashworth@cs.montana.edu Organization: Pretty cruddy X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b3C (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-970209-SNAP i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org, multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Ensoniq sound card X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Has anybody gotten an Ensoniq sound card to work with FreeBSD. If so, how? Thanks... -- - Justin Ashworth, Intern -- Structured Network Systems, Inc. --- justin@structured.net From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat May 17 19:45:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA01307 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 17 May 1997 19:45:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA01302 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 19:45:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA24175; Sat, 17 May 1997 19:43:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705180243.TAA24175@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Bernie Doehner cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Wincast/TV troubles (Temic PAL tuner) In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 17 May 1997 19:08:27 EDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 19:43:24 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk If you go with an ASUS motherboard and a fx or vx model you should be all set. If you can load up windows 95 and check out the system. One thing that you can do is peruse the various mailing list for STB and see if there are any complains about the SiS chipset . I caught one such complain in the Intel Video Capture newsgroup and no one really knew what the problem was. Can you enter you configuration into the bt848 configuration web page and comment on your experience? http://www.freebsd.org/~jmg/cgi-bin/bt848.cgi Regards, Amancio >From The Desk Of Bernie Doehner : > > I suspect that your problem is the chip0 rev 49 on pci0:5 > > > > Most likely that PCI chipset is not PCI 2.1 compliant. > > > > Amancio > > Oh no! God how hardware ages! > > I suppose not being PCI 2.1 compliant could easily cause the probe to > incorrectly determine the type of card. > > Is there a program (BSD or DOS) that can test PCI 2.1 compliance on a > motherboard? > > If I were to buy a Pentium MB now, can I be reasonably certain that > something with a VX or FX chipset is indeed PCI 2.1 comliant? > > Thanks! > > Bernie >