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Hi,

Yesterday I bought myself a SoundBlaster AWE 64. Unfortunately, I can't get
it to work under FreeBSD 2.2.2 RELEASE (it does however work under M$
windows 3.1). 

I installed Luigi's pnp and snd driver (pnp970924.tgz & snd971007.tgz) and
recompiled the kernel. The kernel config file contains the following
configuration lines:

controller      pnp0
device          pcm0 at isa ? port 0x220 tty irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x15 vector pcmintr

When I boot using this new kernel I get the following boot messages:

....
Probing for PnP devices:
CSN 1 Vendor ID: CTL00c5 [0xc5008c0e] Serial 0x056d76bc
This is a SB16 PnP, but LDN 0 is disabled
....
pcm0 at 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 mem 0x0 flags 0x15 en 1 confl 0
mss_detect error, busy still set (0xff)
sb_reset_dsp 0x220 failed
pcm0 not found at 0x220
....

What is wrong here? Should I configure something using the -c boot option?
My BIOS is not PnP aware, but I think that should not matter (it does not
matter for Windows 3.1). pnpinfo shows the following information:

Checking for Plug-n-Play devices...

Card assigned CSN #1
Vendor ID CTL00c5 (0xc5008c0e), Serial Number 0x056d76bc
PnP Version 1.0, Vendor Version 16
Device Description: Creative SB AWE64 PnP
*** Small Vendor Tag Detected

Logical Device ID: CTL0045 0x45008c0e #0
Device Description: Audio
TAG Start DF
Good Configuration
    IRQ: 5  - only one type (true/edge)
    DMA: channel(s) 1 
	8-bit, not a bus master, count by byte, , Compatibility mode
    DMA: channel(s) 5 
	16-bit, not a bus master, , count by word, Compatibility mode
    I/O Range 0x220 .. 0x220, alignment 0x1, len 0x10
	[16-bit addr]
    I/O Range 0x330 .. 0x330, alignment 0x1, len 0x2
	[16-bit addr]
    I/O Range 0x388 .. 0x388, alignment 0x1, len 0x4
	[16-bit addr]
TAG Start DF
Acceptable Configuration
    IRQ: 5 7 9 10  - only one type (true/edge)
    DMA: channel(s) 0 1 3 
	8-bit, not a bus master, count by byte, , Compatibility mode
    DMA: channel(s) 5 6 7 
	16-bit, not a bus master, , count by word, Compatibility mode
    I/O Range 0x220 .. 0x280, alignment 0x20, len 0x10
	[16-bit addr]
    I/O Range 0x300 .. 0x330, alignment 0x30, len 0x2
	[16-bit addr]
    I/O Range 0x388 .. 0x388, alignment 0x1, len 0x4
	[16-bit addr]
TAG Start DF
Acceptable Configuration
    IRQ: 5 7 9 10  - only one type (true/edge)
    DMA: channel(s) 0 1 3 
	8-bit, not a bus master, count by byte, , Compatibility mode
    DMA: channel(s) 5 6 7 
	16-bit, not a bus master, , count by word, Compatibility mode
    I/O Range 0x220 .. 0x280, alignment 0x20, len 0x10
	[16-bit addr]
    I/O Range 0x300 .. 0x330, alignment 0x30, len 0x2
	[16-bit addr]
TAG Start DF
Acceptable Configuration
    IRQ: 5 7 9 10  - only one type (true/edge)
    DMA: channel(s) 0 1 3 
	8-bit, not a bus master, count by byte, , Compatibility mode
    DMA: channel(s) 5 6 7 
	16-bit, not a bus master, , count by word, Compatibility mode
    I/O Range 0x220 .. 0x280, alignment 0x20, len 0x10
	[16-bit addr]
TAG Start DF
Acceptable Configuration
    IRQ: 5 7 9 10  - only one type (true/edge)
    DMA: channel(s) 0 1 3 
	8-bit, not a bus master, count by byte, , Compatibility mode
    I/O Range 0x220 .. 0x280, alignment 0x20, len 0x10
	[16-bit addr]
    I/O Range 0x300 .. 0x330, alignment 0x30, len 0x2
	[16-bit addr]
    I/O Range 0x388 .. 0x388, alignment 0x1, len 0x4
	[16-bit addr]
TAG Start DF
Acceptable Configuration
    IRQ: 5 7 9 10  - only one type (true/edge)
    DMA: channel(s) 0 1 3 
	8-bit, not a bus master, count by byte, , Compatibility mode
    I/O Range 0x220 .. 0x280, alignment 0x20, len 0x10
	[16-bit addr]
    I/O Range 0x300 .. 0x330, alignment 0x30, len 0x2
	[16-bit addr]
TAG Start DF
Acceptable Configuration
    IRQ: 5 7 9 10  - only one type (true/edge)
    DMA: channel(s) 0 1 3 
	8-bit, not a bus master, count by byte, , Compatibility mode
    I/O Range 0x220 .. 0x280, alignment 0x20, len 0x10
	[16-bit addr]
TAG Start DF
Sub-optimal Configuration
    IRQ: 5 7 9 10  - only one type (true/edge)
    DMA: channel(s) 0 1 3 
	8-bit, not a bus master, count by byte, , Compatibility mode
    DMA: channel(s) 5 6 7 
	16-bit, not a bus master, , count by word, Compatibility mode
    I/O Range 0x220 .. 0x280, alignment 0x20, len 0x10
	[16-bit addr]
    I/O Range 0x300 .. 0x330, alignment 0x10, len 0x2
	[16-bit addr]
    I/O Range 0x388 .. 0x394, alignment 0x4, len 0x4
	[16-bit addr]
TAG End DF

Logical Device ID: CTL7002 0x02708c0e #1
Compatible Device ID: PNPb02f (2fb0d041)
Device Description: Game
TAG Start DF
Good Configuration
    I/O Range 0x200 .. 0x200, alignment 0x1, len 0x8
	[16-bit addr]
TAG Start DF
Acceptable Configuration
    I/O Range 0x200 .. 0x208, alignment 0x8, len 0x8
	[16-bit addr]
TAG End DF

Logical Device ID: CTL0022 0x22008c0e #2
Device Description: WaveTable
TAG Start DF
Good Configuration
    I/O Range 0x620 .. 0x620, alignment 0x1, len 0x4
	[16-bit addr]
TAG Start DF
Acceptable Configuration
    I/O Range 0x620 .. 0x680, alignment 0x20, len 0x4
	[16-bit addr]
TAG End DF
*** Small Vendor Tag Detected
End Tag

Successfully got 69 resources, 3 logical fdevs
-- card select # 0x0001

CSN CTL00c5 (0xc5008c0e), Serial Number 0x056d76bc

Logical device #0
IO:  0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000
IRQ 0 0
DMA 4 4
IO range check 0x00 activate 0x00

Logical device #1
IO:  0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000
IRQ 0 0
DMA 4 4
IO range check 0x00 activate 0x00

Logical device #2
IO:  0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000
IRQ 0 0
DMA 4 4
IO range check 0x00 activate 0x00

What should I do to get my card working properly?

Thanks for your time,

                          Frank

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On the subject of Matrox Rainbow Runner, Petri Helenius stated:

> I use this card to produce MPEG's. That is, I take the video into
> MJPEG (with one of the higher rate settings, from 7 to 20
> megabits/sec) and compress it with an MPEG encoder to 600 to 2500
> kilobits/sec. Note that MJPEG is an editable format and not really
> targeted for network nor distribution format.

What do you use for to convert to MPEG?  The software that comes with the card
is horrendously slow!

>  > The only downside as far as I can see for this card is, it requires I run
>  > windows :)  Has anyone else looked at this card?
>  > 
> The only real problem here is that the windows drivers leak memory
> like hell. Doing a 15 minute capture renders my 64 meg machine out of
> memory.

Hum.  I used the 1.52 driver to capture about an hour of video last night with
no problems.

-Crh

       Charles Henrich     Michigan State University     henrich@msu.edu

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Charles Henrich writes:
 > On the subject of Matrox Rainbow Runner, Petri Helenius stated:
 > 
 > > I use this card to produce MPEG's. That is, I take the video into
 > > MJPEG (with one of the higher rate settings, from 7 to 20
 > > megabits/sec) and compress it with an MPEG encoder to 600 to 2500
 > > kilobits/sec. Note that MJPEG is an editable format and not really
 > > targeted for network nor distribution format.
 > 
 > What do you use for to convert to MPEG?  The software that comes with the card
 > is horrendously slow!
 >
Xing MPEG encoder 2.0. You get free 30 days from www.xingtech.com or $89
for a license. It does about 8 minutes an hour on my 200 MMX so it's
definetly faster than the crappy Ulead one. (and does better quality)

 > >  > The only downside as far as I can see for this card is, it requires I run
 > >  > windows :)  Has anyone else looked at this card?
 > >  > 
 > > The only real problem here is that the windows drivers leak memory
 > > like hell. Doing a 15 minute capture renders my 64 meg machine out of
 > > memory.
 > 
 > Hum.  I used the 1.52 driver to capture about an hour of video last night with
 > no problems.
 > 
You can do that, the problem is when you try to do something else
after doing that or specifically after playing back that video. 1.52
(and 1.5) are little less worse in this sense than 1.1 but there is no
cure yet.

Pete

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Subject: Re: Need help setting AWE64
To: volf@oasis.IAEhv.nl (Frank Volf)
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 16:23:07 +0100 (MET)
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> Yesterday I bought myself a SoundBlaster AWE 64. Unfortunately, I can't get
> it to work under FreeBSD 2.2.2 RELEASE (it does however work under M$
> windows 3.1). 
> 
> I installed Luigi's pnp and snd driver (pnp970924.tgz & snd971007.tgz) and
> recompiled the kernel. The kernel config file contains the following
> configuration lines:

> controller      pnp0
> device          pcm0 at isa ? port 0x220 tty irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x15 vector pcmintr
> 
> When I boot using this new kernel I get the following boot messages:
> 
> ....
> Probing for PnP devices:
> CSN 1 Vendor ID: CTL00c5 [0xc5008c0e] Serial 0x056d76bc
> This is a SB16 PnP, but LDN 0 is disabled

your config is correct and as you see the diagnostic is very clear.
Your bios is not pnp aware hence it does not assign resources to the
card. win95 is pnp aware so this does not matter. freebsd can
initialize the card for you provided you tell it in the follwing way.
- pick some free io, irq and dma addresses (say port 0x220, irq5 drq 1
  and 5 -- or the same as you use in win95
- boot -c
- issue the command

    pnp 1 0 os enable port0 0x220 irq0 5 drq0 1 drq1 5

then everything should work and your pcm1 will be recognised

	cheers
	luigi

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From: volf@oasis.IAEhv.nl (Frank Volf)
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Subject: Re: Need help setting AWE64
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Luigi Rizzo wrote:
> - issue the command
> 
>     pnp 1 0 os enable port0 0x220 irq0 5 drq0 1 drq1 5
> 
> then everything should work and your pcm1 will be recognised

Great that works! In fact, I have been playing with the card for some time
now. I'm able to play audio files, mpeg's with sound and RealAudio 3.0 also
works fine. Good job Luigi, thanks!

Unfortunately, I ran into a small problem. Sometimes (I did not figure out
yet what condition this triggers), I get the following message:

oasis /kernel: SoundBlaster 16 4.16>1 open: device busy

after this message. I can no longer play any sounds. The solution I have
found so far is to reboot the system :-(. dmesg shows the following
messages:

dsp write channels 2
dsp write channels 2
START dma chan: play 5, rec 1
Race! got wrint while reloading...
Race! got wrint while reloading...
Race! got wrint while reloading...
Race! got wrint while reloading...
Race! got wrint while reloading...
Race! got wrint while reloading...
dsp write channels 2
dsp write channels 2
dsp write channels 2
Race! got wrint while reloading...
Race! got wrint while reloading...
Race! got wrint while reloading...
1 open: device busy

Any clue?

Regards,

              Frank


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Frank Volf scribbled this message on Oct 19:
> Luigi Rizzo wrote:
> > - issue the command
> > 
> >     pnp 1 0 os enable port0 0x220 irq0 5 drq0 1 drq1 5
> > 
> > then everything should work and your pcm1 will be recognised
> 
> Great that works! In fact, I have been playing with the card for some time
> now. I'm able to play audio files, mpeg's with sound and RealAudio 3.0 also
> works fine. Good job Luigi, thanks!
> 
> Unfortunately, I ran into a small problem. Sometimes (I did not figure out
> yet what condition this triggers), I get the following message:
> 
> oasis /kernel: SoundBlaster 16 4.16>1 open: device busy
> 
> after this message. I can no longer play any sounds. The solution I have
> found so far is to reboot the system :-(. dmesg shows the following
> messages:

what are the specs of your system?  (make sure to include cpu and speed)
I saw something like this on my 486dx2/66 w/ a cs4237 based card..  

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A new snap of my audio driver and pnp code are available at

 	http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/snd971020.tgz
 	http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/pnp971020.tgz
 
both are tested against 2.2.5 and 2.2.1.

The PnP code is substantially unchanged since the previous snapshot,
only minor changes have been done to the README file.

The sound code has some minor fixes for the following bugs in 971007:

  + snd_sync() did not properly shut down the device;
  + because of some typos, the code would not compile on 3.0
  + 3.0 users had problems in the attach of SB16 devices;

also the README files and patches have been cleaned up.

Feedback as usual is welcome, please include in plain ascii the
relevant info, e.g. your config file, dmesg output, pnpinfo output and
a description of the problem

	Cheers
	Luigi
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Dear Mr. Wosch,
	Is there any Video Conferencing solution you know of on freeBSD.
It should work both on Ethernet LAN and SLIP or PPP WAN at 28.8K.
Do you know of any drivers for Video blaster SE100 on BSD.

Any information on these issues is most welcome

Thanks in advance
Murali
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John-Mark Gurney wrote:
> what are the specs of your system?  (make sure to include cpu and speed)
> I saw something like this on my 486dx2/66 w/ a cs4237 based card..  

Pentium 90 - 16 Mbyte RAM - SoundBlaster AWE 64 PnP

FreeBSD 2.2.2 kernel with snd971007 and pnp970924 added.

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Luigi Rizzo:
 |> However, if across the group we're lacking T T or E for a rewrite, unless
 |> you know of some prohibitive bugs in the existing synth code, it might be a
 |> good idea to lean toward working it so that the synth system's existing
 |> external APIs can be "plugged in" so-to-speak across a DMZ (your clean code
 |
 |the external API is the last think I want to change -- as in the case
 |of the sound driver, i implemented most of the voxware interface first,
 |and then tried to define a new one to cover the missing
 |functionlaities. But the problem I think is that even pluggin in a
 |module without understanding what it does it's a hard task. Plus...

Sorry, I shouldn't have used the word "external".  What I meant was the
APIs between the sound driver "shell" and each of the individual sequencer
drivers (like probe, attach, ioctl, etc.).  I was thinking of these
sequencer APIs as external to a particular sequencer driver (in terms of
plugging into the sound driver shell), but of course they're still internal
to the sound driver as a whole.  Sorry about that.

 |... the real thing I am missing is not how to code the driver, for that
 |I can borrow from the existing one. The real problem is what the synth
 |is expecting to receive in terms of communication with the system. I
 |guess it needs, for each note, a set of parameters identifying the note
 |to play, and perhaps some timing reference to relate it to other notes.
 |Also what kind of feedback is the driver supposed to give back to the
 |application --- things like "i am about to finish with this note please
 |send me more..." etc. Once I understand this, i guess i can be really
 |productive. And for that it is more important to have a high level
 |understanding of what the synth should do, rather than low level driver
 |programming. It is the former experience i am severely lacking an
 |looking for help. if you know about that, or know somebody who can
 |help, please let me know.
 |
 |>From these discussions I am slowly figuring out what should the
 |interface be, but more is needed...

I've not done any sequencer programming myself, but the two references I'm
aware of are are:

    1) Chapter 4 (pp 32-44) from Hannu's snd-sdk-doc-0.1.ps, and
    2) http://www.4front-tech.com/pguide/midi.html at 4-Front.

The latter is a pretty anemic write-up.  The former is much more
interesting.  Let me know if you don't have a copy of this
snd-sdk-doc-0.1.ps file and I'll be glad to get one in the mail to you.

Thanks,

Randall

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Alex Nash:
 |It worked like a charm.  Thanks for patching this so quickly!

No problem.  Glad that did the trick.

 |>  |The card appears to work properly under Windows (after I yanked out my
 |>  |SMC network card :).  Also, I briefly had a version of fxtv 0.44 which
 |>  |would start up and display static, but could not be coaxed into
 |>  |displaying anything from my VCR.  I thought this might be a
 |> 
 |> This I'm really not sure about.  I'm assuming you set inputFormat as
 |> desired.  The did you select "Video" from the Input menu?  Also try
 |> selecting the Tuner input, put fxtv on your VCR's control channel
 |> (2,3,4), and put the VCR's VCR/TV selection on VCR.  See if either of
 |> these gives you something better than static.
 |
 |No luck :(  I've tried all combinations.  Regardless of the
 |antenna/cable setting, I get:
 |
 |  - Blank video (all black) and static for audio when the input is set to
 |    tuner.
 |
 |  - Blank video (all black) and no audio when the input is set to
 |    video or S-VHS.
 |
 |I'm stumped.  The kernel appears to identify the card without a problem:
 |
 |  bktr0 <BrookTree 848> rev 17 int a irq 9 on pci0:12
 |  Hauppauge WinCast/TV, Temic PAL tuner, dbx stereo.
 |
 |I'm not adverse to debugging this at the driver level -- does anyone
 |have suggestions for a good starting point?

Ok, well I'm getting close to the limit of things I can think of to try.
Here are some thoughts:
     - Bring up the Input->Appearance dialog and crank up brightness and
         contrast

     - Play with selecting different input formats from the Format menu

     - Run fxtv with the -colorbars option.  Don't know for sure about
       PAL tuners, but in NTSC-land you should see solid vertical
       colorbars with very pure colors in this order from left-to-right:

          White  Yellow  Cyan  Green  Magenta  Red  Blue  Black

If this doesn't reveal any clues, I think you might want to dial up Steve
or Amancio for some driver debugging tips.

BTW, you might drop the output of "xdpyinfo" on your box into your reply.
I'm curious as to what your visuals look like.

Randall

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Joachim Wunder:
 |I just installed Fxtv Version 0.45 and the newest available driver for my
 |Win/TVpci under FreeBSD 2.2.1.
 |
 |All seems to work very fine, except that I cannot tune in any channel.
 |Fxtv reports the following on start-up:
 |
 |	Warning: Actions not found: TVSetChannel
 |
 |I only can see "snow" on the video-screen. :(
 |
 |I am using a Trio V64+ and 16bpp and the card is working great under Win95.

Sorry about that -- my fault.  Joao and Alex also hit this last week.  

There are a few ways to fix your problem.  The easiest is to change the
"TVSetChannel"s in app_rsrc.h to "TVSetStation", rm tv.o, and rebuild fxtv.

The reason these (albeit incorrect) internal defaults are coming into play
is that Fxtv can't find its global resource file.  You can set
XFILESEARCHPATH (see below) so that it can.  This, also, will also get rid
of the TVSetChannel errors.

I'll clean this up for the next version.

Randall


Randall Hopper:
 |Alex Nash:
 | |  Warning: Actions not found: TVSetChannel
 |
 |This one's my bust.  TVSetChannel is history.  It's TVSetStation now.  I
 |changed this in the global Fxtv resource file, but I missed it in the
 |internal fall-back.  If fxtv can't find the global resource file
 |(via XFILESEARCHPATH), it falls back on internal defaults in the code,
 |which are in error.
 |
 |To fix, either:
 |
 |    setenv XFILESEARCHPATH  /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/%T/%N%C%S:/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/%T/%N%S
 |
 |or something similar; or replace the "TVSetChannel" refs in app_rsrc.h with
 |"TVSetStation", remove tv.o, and relink fxtv.  Or do both.
 ...

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> Ok, well I'm getting close to the limit of things I can think of to try.
> Here are some thoughts:
>      - Bring up the Input->Appearance dialog and crank up brightness and
>          contrast
> 
>      - Play with selecting different input formats from the Format menu

No luck with either of these.

>      - Run fxtv with the -colorbars option.  Don't know for sure about
>        PAL tuners, but in NTSC-land you should see solid vertical
>        colorbars with very pure colors in this order from left-to-right:
> 
>           White  Yellow  Cyan  Green  Magenta  Red  Blue  Black

No luck here either -- I get nothing but black when using -colorbars.

> If this doesn't reveal any clues, I think you might want to dial up Steve
> or Amancio for some driver debugging tips.

My latest thinking on all this is that the card I have is incompatible
with the driver because it has FM radio support (is anyone running a
card with radio support under FreeBSD?).  Probably there's a command
to select TV or radio, and hopefully that is all that's missing.

Perhaps Amancio or Steve could answer this question: Has all the
documentation for the bt848 driver come from Brooktree, or has
Hauppauge been forthcoming with details about their board?  (Assuming
that this is a Hauppauge specific problem.)

> BTW, you might drop the output of "xdpyinfo" on your box into your reply.
> I'm curious as to what your visuals look like.

You bet, I'll attach it to the end of this message.  Thanks again for
your help.

Alex

name of display:    :0.0
version number:    11.0
vendor string:    Xi Graphics
vendor release number:    3100
maximum request size:  4194300 bytes
motion buffer size:  256
bitmap unit, bit order, padding:    32, LSBFirst, 32
image byte order:    LSBFirst
number of supported pixmap formats:    7
supported pixmap formats:
    depth 1, bits_per_pixel 1, scanline_pad 32
    depth 4, bits_per_pixel 8, scanline_pad 32
    depth 8, bits_per_pixel 8, scanline_pad 32
    depth 15, bits_per_pixel 16, scanline_pad 32
    depth 16, bits_per_pixel 16, scanline_pad 32
    depth 24, bits_per_pixel 32, scanline_pad 32
    depth 32, bits_per_pixel 32, scanline_pad 32
keycode range:    minimum 8, maximum 167
focus:  window 0x480000e, revert to PointerRoot
number of extensions:    15
    BIG-REQUESTS
    DOUBLE-BUFFER
    MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
    MIT-SHM
    MIT-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD
    RECORD
    SHAPE
    SYNC
    X3D-PEX
    XC-MISC
    XIE
    XIdle
    XTEST
    XTestExtension1
    XsightExtension
default screen number:    0
number of screens:    1

screen #0:
  dimensions:    1600x1200 pixels (324x235 millimeters)
  resolution:    125x130 dots per inch
  depths (3):    1, 8, 24
  root window id:    0x25
  depth of root window:    8 planes
  number of colormaps:    minimum 1, maximum 2
  default colormap:    0x23
  default number of colormap cells:    256
  preallocated pixels:    black 0, white 1
  options:    backing-store NO, save-unders NO
  largest cursor:    64x64
  current input event mask:    0x70003c
    ButtonPressMask          ButtonReleaseMask        EnterWindowMask          
    LeaveWindowMask          SubstructureRedirectMask FocusChangeMask          
    PropertyChangeMask       
  number of visuals:    3
  default visual id:  0x20
  visual:
    visual id:    0x20
    class:    PseudoColor
    depth:    8 planes
    available colormap entries:    256
    red, green, blue masks:    0x0, 0x0, 0x0
    significant bits in color specification:    8 bits
  visual:
    visual id:    0x21
    class:    GrayScale
    depth:    8 planes
    available colormap entries:    256
    red, green, blue masks:    0x0, 0x0, 0x0
    significant bits in color specification:    8 bits
  visual:
    visual id:    0x22
    class:    TrueColor
    depth:    24 planes
    available colormap entries:    256 per subfield
    red, green, blue masks:    0xff0000, 0xff00, 0xff
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I was wondering how to get one of these beasts to work in 2.2-STABLE, not
using Luigi's sound driver since i also have a PAS card that i want (need)
to use. Or how hard it would be to get the PAS (with sb part running) to
work with Luigi's driver.

regards/ Joakim


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Alex Nash:
 |supported pixmap formats:
 |    depth 1, bits_per_pixel 1, scanline_pad 32
 |    depth 4, bits_per_pixel 8, scanline_pad 32
 |    depth 8, bits_per_pixel 8, scanline_pad 32
 |    depth 15, bits_per_pixel 16, scanline_pad 32
 |    depth 16, bits_per_pixel 16, scanline_pad 32
 |    depth 24, bits_per_pixel 32, scanline_pad 32
 |    depth 32, bits_per_pixel 32, scanline_pad 32

Hmm..interesting.  Support for bunches of Pixmap depths simultaneously.

Just for kicks, what's the output of "fxtv -debug startup" look like (just
the part before it starts talking about FONT stuff)?  You should see fxtv
chosing your 24-bpp visual to work in.  Pretty sure it will; just want to
sanity check this.

BTW, you're frame buffer is running in 24-bpp, right?  I'm slightly puzzled
by the fact that the "default visual id" is your 8-bpp PseudoColor visual.  

OR, if you in fact "are" running your frame buffer in 8-bpp, and the Xaccel
server doesn't handle 24-bit ximages in 8-bpp mode, this just might explain
the black screen you're seeing :-)

If you are running your frame buffer in 8-bpp, just for kicks, change this
line in tvscreen.c:

          case PseudoColor : rank = 2;  break;

to this:
 
          case PseudoColor : rank = 1000;  break;

Which should force use of the PseudoColor visual.  See if that makes any
difference :-)

Randall


 |  number of visuals:    3
 |  default visual id:  0x20
 |  visual:
 |    visual id:    0x20
 |    class:    PseudoColor
 |    depth:    8 planes
 |    available colormap entries:    256
 |    red, green, blue masks:    0x0, 0x0, 0x0
 |    significant bits in color specification:    8 bits
 |  visual:
 |    visual id:    0x21
 |    class:    GrayScale
 |    depth:    8 planes
 |    available colormap entries:    256
 |    red, green, blue masks:    0x0, 0x0, 0x0
 |    significant bits in color specification:    8 bits
 |  visual:
 |    visual id:    0x22
 |    class:    TrueColor
 |    depth:    24 planes
 |    available colormap entries:    256 per subfield
 |    red, green, blue masks:    0xff0000, 0xff00, 0xff
 |    significant bits in color specification:    8 bits

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Is anyone else having problems with Xi graphics's servers?


As for debugging the driver:



#if defined( STATUS_SUM )
        /* add any new device status or INTerrupt status bits */
        status_sum |= (bktr_status & ~(BT848_INT_RSV0|BT848_INT_RSV1));
        status_sum |= ((dstatus & (BT848_DSTATUS_COF|BT848_DSTATUS_LOF)) << 6);
#endif /* STATUS_SUM */
        /*      printf( " STATUS %x %x %x \n", 
                dstatus, bktr_status, bt848->risc_count );
                */
        /* if risc was disabled re-start process again */
        if ( !(bktr_status & BT848_INT_RISC_EN) ||

Just uncomment the above printf , compile , install the new kernel.
After rebooting , run fxtv and send me the output of the last 200 
or messages . 

	Tnks,
	Amancio



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> I was wondering how to get one of these beasts to work in 2.2-STABLE, not
> using Luigi's sound driver since i also have a PAS card that i want (need)
> to use. Or how hard it would be to get the PAS (with sb part running) to
> work with Luigi's driver.

the best option would be to support the PAS on my driver. Does it
by chance emulate the SB or something, or can you help in writing
support for it ?

	Thanks
	Luigi
-----------------------------+--------------------------------------
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email: luigi@iet.unipi.it    |  Universita' di Pisa
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> > using Luigi's sound driver since i also have a PAS card that i want (need)
> > to use. Or how hard it would be to get the PAS (with sb part running) to
> > work with Luigi's driver.
> 
> the best option would be to support the PAS on my driver. Does it
> by chance emulate the SB or something, or can you help in writing
> support for it ?

The PAS is one of the funnier cards since it does do SB emulation, but
uses an actual Creatice chip to achieve it. This gives the PAS two sound
channels out (PAS 16bit stereo, sb 8bit mono). I would think that the sb
part could be accessed by your drivers. But then i lose the PAS part and
can _still_ only play two sounds at a time :) As to me writing a driver...
Don't have the slightest idea how to. I would guess there are some
defferencies between your driver and the voxware one, how hard would it be
to port the voxware one, any guidelines etc?

regards/ Joakim



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> > the best option would be to support the PAS on my driver. Does it
> > by chance emulate the SB or something, or can you help in writing
> > support for it ?
> 
> The PAS is one of the funnier cards since it does do SB emulation, but
> uses an actual Creatice chip to achieve it. This gives the PAS two sound
> channels out (PAS 16bit stereo, sb 8bit mono). I would think that the sb
> part could be accessed by your drivers. But then i lose the PAS part and
> can _still_ only play two sounds at a time :) As to me writing a driver...

What is the point of using multiple cards to play sounds together,
rather than mixing them in software and playing the resulting stream on
one _good_ sound card ?

> Don't have the slightest idea how to. I would guess there are some
> defferencies between your driver and the voxware one, how hard would it be
> to port the voxware one, any guidelines etc?

I have to say that the ossfreee 3.8 code (the linux version, which is
available in source format) is much more readable than previous ones
(or perhaps I have more experience...) so you could start from the
documentation in the doc/ directory in my driver, and then try to look
at the ossfree code for the PAS.

But I don't think I will ever support the PAS in such a way that
two independent, simultaneous channels are available. Does Voxware
support this ?

	Cheers
	Luigi
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> > The PAS is one of the funnier cards since it does do SB emulation, but
> > uses an actual Creatice chip to achieve it. This gives the PAS two sound
> > channels out (PAS 16bit stereo, sb 8bit mono). I would think that the sb
> > part could be accessed by your drivers. But then i lose the PAS part and
> > can _still_ only play two sounds at a time :) As to me writing a driver...
> 
> What is the point of using multiple cards to play sounds together,
> rather than mixing them in software and playing the resulting stream on
> one _good_ sound card ?

CPU? I did try software mixing once, but to make a good mixing device? I
just dont have the math for it.

> But I don't think I will ever support the PAS in such a way that
> two independent, simultaneous channels are available. Does Voxware
> support this ?

I'm not sure i'm following you on this but if you are asking if i can play
two sounds simmultaneous, then yes i can. The PAS card is really two cards
in one.

regards/ Joakim


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Hi,

The problems described herein is very similar to the ones I
have, thus I thought I'd share my experiences.

> No luck :(  I've tried all combinations.  Regardless of the
> antenna/cable setting, I get:
> 
>   - Blank video (all black) and static for audio when the input is set to
>     tuner.

Same here (when tuner is set to Temic).

>   - Blank video (all black) and no audio when the input is set to
>     video or S-VHS.

My video-in works fine (My old Philips TVtuner from my Amiga days
is curently feeding it). I haven't tried S-VHS, as I've got
nowhere to get the signal from.

> I'm stumped.  The kernel appears to identify the card without a problem:
> 
>   bktr0 <BrookTree 848> rev 17 int a irq 9 on pci0:12
>   Hauppauge WinCast/TV, Temic PAL tuner, dbx stereo.

Are you sure that the tuner is a Temic? My Hauppauge card (PAL,
Text, Radio - probably a model 418) has a Philips tuner.
You have to take off the Hauppauge sticker to check - be
carefull that you don't remove the text on the stickers below.
(I'm at work now, but I remenber setting an option in the kernel
config. file to force the driver to assume a Philips tuner).

The problem is probably that the sticker on the (i.e. my) tuner
module says FM1216. I think the ones the driver is based on are the
F[IR]1216 tuners.

Does anyone have the datasheet for the FM1216. I have tried calling
the Danish Philips branch and I've tried asking at www.philips.com.
Both times I've been directed to a Danish distributor (Rosenmeier
Data A/S), who hasn't got a clue.
I've also tried contacting techsupport@hauppauge.com - NO answer.
If anyone can help me get a copy of the datasheet, I'd be happy
to update the driver. 

Currently my advise to the public is: Stay away from the
Hauppauge cards with radio.


	Have a nice day
	Flemming

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On Wed, 15 Oct 1997, Luigi Rizzo wrote:
> you should really look at the audio driver I wrote and its
> documentation, which should really be helpful. In a few days I will
> also provide a manual for the API I am developing in parallel with
> the old voxware one; as you will see there is much more support
> for synchronization, which is what you need for your type of apps.

I'll be getting a copy of this later today, looking forwards to seeing
some documentation further than the voxware 2.4 stuff I've got.

> Plus, my driver supports multiple cards of the same type (if they
> are distinguishable; there are some unnamed PnP cards which have
> the same vendor id and serial number thus being undistinguishable
> at the PnP level...).

I should probably buy a motherboard that actually gives the correct
voltages for the 166MMX I impulse-bought. I'll be wanting to do this
eventually though so it's nice to see that this is looking possible.

Anyway, thanks for the information, I'll try out some of the newer
versions of both guspnp (although I don't have actually have a GUS) and
your driver (not necessarily in that order!).

Also apologies for the late reply. I've not had time to check my mail much
lately.

Many Thanks,

	Steve Roome

Steve Roome - Vision Interactive Ltd.
Tel:+44(0)117 9730597 Home:+44(0)976 241342
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Joachim Wunder:
 |> |	Warning: Actions not found: TVSetChannel
 |> |
 |>The reason these (albeit incorrect) internal defaults are coming into play
 |>is that Fxtv can't find its global resource file.  You can set
 |>XFILESEARCHPATH (see below) so that it can.  This, also, will also get rid
 |>of the TVSetChannel errors.
 |
 |I tried this, too, but perceived the same phenomenon as described above. Huh!

Sounds like you have old settings from a previous version of Fxtv lying
around somewheres, or this version of Fxtv wasn't installed correctly.
First, verify that /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults/Fxtv and
$XAPPLRESDIR/Fxtv (if XAPPLRESDIR is set) don't have TVSetChannel
references.

Then look in your ~/.Xdefaults and ~/.Xresources for "Fxtv" settings
containing "TVSetChannel".  

And finally, make sure any Fxtv files (if present) in any of your
XUSERFILESEARCHPATH directories (if XUSERFILESEARCHPATH is set) don't have
"TVSetChannel" in them.

Change any found references to TVSetStation.

Finally once you think you've got them all, run:

     appres Fxtv | grep TVSetChannel                  and
     strings /usr/X11R6/bin/fxtv | grep TVSetChannel

to be sure.  These commands shouldn't print anything if you did.

 |By the way: I normally use "Europe Cable" and "PAL (BGH...)" under the
 |Win95 application. So do you think your fxtv is "incompatible" to the
 |format used in Germany!? Hmmm.....

That I don't know.  Really the bt848 driver is what determines whether that
support is there for that formata.  Fxtv is just passing through the user's
request to set the format.

Searching my mail archives, the only person I see posting about the Bt848
TV cards from Germany is Volker Freiburg
<volker@neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>.  You might give him a mail and
see if he can help you out.  He added some channel definitions for PAL in
Western Europe.

Randall

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The API / programming guide for the linux sound driver 3.5 is at:

http://www.4front-tech.com/pguide/index.html

	Amancio



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Thats a reference to a multimedia book for the linux sound driver.

I have no idea how good or bad the book is .

	Have fun,
	Amancio



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On Sun, 19 Oct 1997, Joachim Wunder wrote:

> I obeyed all instructions on http://multiverse.com/~rhh/fxtv and installed all
> the necessary kernel drivers for my Hauppauge Win/TVpci PAL card:
> 
> bktr0 <BrookTree 848> rev 18 int a irq 11 on pci0:13
> Hauppauge WinCast/TV, Temic PAL tuner.
> 
> I further installed fxtv from from the ports collection on my 2.2.1 release.
> After starting fxtv it shows up with
> 
> 	Warning: Actions not found: TVSetChannel

That's OK -- you're using an old or nonexistent Fxtv app-defaults file.
Copy fxtv to your app-deafuls directory or append to ~/.Xdefaults.

> So I only see some "snow" on txvf video screen and can change the channels,
> but can't tune in any program.

make sure the tuner is checked on the Input menu.  Also check your cable
connection and that the channels that are being tuned are actually on your
system.  The default channels are few and far between, and if you're on an
antenna you may not be getting the right channels.

Doug White                              | University of Oregon  
Internet:  dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu    | Residence Networking Assistant
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On Tue, 21 Oct 1997, Amancio Hasty wrote:

> 
> Thats a reference to a multimedia book for the linux sound driver.
> 
> I have no idea how good or bad the book is .
> 

It is good for the OSS/FreeBSD sound driver, I  have used it to write a
simple/sample memmap()ed sound player.

--
David Cross
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http://www.freebsd.org/~ahasty/Bt848.html

Has anyone played with the dos toolkit from the Hackers tool chest ?

	Cheers,
	Amancio



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Well, I had a little time to experiment with the Bt848 driver/fxtv 
this weekend/yesterday, so, since I understand that fxtv-0.45 and
the updated Bt848 driver are in the 2.2.x and 3.0-current source trees,
I upgraded to the latest (late Saturday) 2.2 RELENG, soon to be 2.2.5.
I wanted to test the soon-to-be-2.2.5 release wrt the Bt848.
It appeared to have updated fxtv and bt848 drivers.  I did a 
"make world" overnight, it worked, and fxtv and video in worked.


A few complications.

[Of course, I ran into the same "TVSetChannel" problem, but, 
that was easily fixed by the advice on "freebsd-multimedia".]  

Somewhere in all the upgrades, [I freely admit that during upgrades
operator error is a possibility}, I have experienced two new problems.

First, the vic 2.8 framegrabber no longer seems to detect the Bt848, 
as it did before, so, I can't do video input to vic.   Was a change
to vic required to support the modified driver?  It was working
Saturday (I checked), before the cvsup and "make world".  Are there 
any modifications to the vic source needed to go with the latest 
driver?  As I said, this was working before the upgrade, and I did
not upgrade vic, so the change would have had to have been in 
cvsup'ed system source or in one of the /usr/ports dependent libraries, 
some of which may have been updated since vic was last built.

Now, fxtv-0.45 works in 8-bit color mode (I was expecting a somewhat
different user interface from fxtv-0.44, but it looks the same to me -
do I have an X resources problem?), although, fxtv seems to ignore the 
channel selection X resources that I had set before (but, you can go up 
and down one-channel-at-a-time) in the channel space.  Was there an 
announcement of new X resources to set/handle the channels?  Is there 
another way to do this now - I saw no menu.  In any case, I assume that 
all this will sort itself out over time and has nothing to do with
the driver changes.

The other, potentially serious, problem is that in (32-bit) 
Truecolor (using an ATI Graphics Xpression), a large horizontal
band of what appears to be every-other line (e.g. even or odd?) 
is messed up.  I don't have the exact dimensions, but, I would 
say that this band goes perhaps from lines ~120 to ~300 on the
displayed video image.  Now, I did see  a similar effect before 
with 2.2.2-RELEASE and fxtv-0.43 or -0.44 (somewhere in the 
June-August timeframe), and, after recompiling and reinstalling 
everything in September, it mysteriously went away.  But, now 
the problem is back.  I tried cleaning, deleting, and reinstalling 
from port source, a few things, but, it made no difference.
8-bit color mode still works fine.

I also tried running the old fxtv, which I had squirreled away,
and, it produced some error messages and wouldn't run.  I have
not tried reinstalling the old driver, because, I think there
is some new ioctl or something the new fxtv needs.  But, if
I'm wrong about that, I could try putting the old driver back.

Environment: 2.2-RELENG as of Saturday, including the now-included
Bt848 driver, which appears to have been updated properly (previously,
I had the ~June driver hand-installed), fxtv-0.45, ATI Graphics
Xpression, XFree86 3.3.1, using the Mach64 X server.


So, anyway, has anyone else tried the almost-2.2.5 release 
with fxtv-0.45 using the X server in truecolor mode, and, 
if so, anything odd?  It may have something to do with the
relatively slow ATI card, but, it was working since early
September using 2.2.2, fxtv-0.44, and the (June?) driver.


-Hugh LaMaster




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Hi,

The same mmap example works on guspnp and it was the basis for providing
sound support for Quake 8)

	Cheers,
	Amancio
> On Tue, 21 Oct 1997, Amancio Hasty wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Thats a reference to a multimedia book for the linux sound driver.
> > 
> > I have no idea how good or bad the book is .
> > 
> 
> It is good for the OSS/FreeBSD sound driver, I  have used it to write a
> simple/sample memmap()ed sound player.
> 
> --
> David Cross
> ACS Consultant
> 



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If you want to search for Philips parts this is the web page to go:
http://www-us.semiconductors.philips.com/search/


If the information is not there then someone is going to have to 
write or call philips to request the data sheet. Usually, Philips
is very good about sending the data sheet or faixing back.

	Regards,
	Amancio


	
> Hi,
> 
> The problems described herein is very similar to the ones I
> have, thus I thought I'd share my experiences.
> 
> > No luck :(  I've tried all combinations.  Regardless of the
> > antenna/cable setting, I get:
> > 
> >   - Blank video (all black) and static for audio when the input is set to
> >     tuner.
> 
> Same here (when tuner is set to Temic).
> 
> >   - Blank video (all black) and no audio when the input is set to
> >     video or S-VHS.
> 
> My video-in works fine (My old Philips TVtuner from my Amiga days
> is curently feeding it). I haven't tried S-VHS, as I've got
> nowhere to get the signal from.
> 
> > I'm stumped.  The kernel appears to identify the card without a problem:
> > 
> >   bktr0 <BrookTree 848> rev 17 int a irq 9 on pci0:12
> >   Hauppauge WinCast/TV, Temic PAL tuner, dbx stereo.
> 
> Are you sure that the tuner is a Temic? My Hauppauge card (PAL,
> Text, Radio - probably a model 418) has a Philips tuner.
> You have to take off the Hauppauge sticker to check - be
> carefull that you don't remove the text on the stickers below.
> (I'm at work now, but I remenber setting an option in the kernel
> config. file to force the driver to assume a Philips tuner).
> 
> The problem is probably that the sticker on the (i.e. my) tuner
> module says FM1216. I think the ones the driver is based on are the
> F[IR]1216 tuners.
> 
> Does anyone have the datasheet for the FM1216. I have tried calling
> the Danish Philips branch and I've tried asking at www.philips.com.
> Both times I've been directed to a Danish distributor (Rosenmeier
> Data A/S), who hasn't got a clue.
> I've also tried contacting techsupport@hauppauge.com - NO answer.
> If anyone can help me get a copy of the datasheet, I'd be happy
> to update the driver. 
> 
> Currently my advise to the public is: Stay away from the
> Hauppauge cards with radio.
> 
> 
> 	Have a nice day
> 	Flemming
> 
> -- 
> Flemming Jacobsen            It'll probably say something like "Does not
>                              compute" or "Inoperative parameters". That's
> Email: fj@login.dknet.dk     what it says when it doesn't know and doesn't
> Phone: +45 35 43 33 49       want to admit it.  -- Terry Pratchett: Wings
> 



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Hi Hugh,

#define quoting(lamaster@george.arc.nasa.gov)
// First, the vic 2.8 framegrabber no longer seems to detect the Bt848, 
// as it did before, so, I can't do video input to vic.   Was a change
// to vic required to support the modified driver?  It was working

Are you using the latest version from rah.star-gate.com ?

There was a change in the driver some time ago that required an
update of vic.

// Now, fxtv-0.45 works in 8-bit color mode (I was expecting a somewhat
// different user interface from fxtv-0.44, but it looks the same to me -
// do I have an X resources problem?), although, fxtv seems to ignore the 

No, it's the same interface, with the video format menu added.

// channel selection X resources that I had set before (but, you can go up 
// and down one-channel-at-a-time) in the channel space.  Was there an 
// announcement of new X resources to set/handle the channels?  Is there 
// another way to do this now - I saw no menu.  In any case, I assume that 
// all this will sort itself out over time and has nothing to do with
// the driver changes.

The resource names have changed.  A s/Channel/Station/g in your
resource file may solve this.

// I also tried running the old fxtv, which I had squirreled away,
// and, it produced some error messages and wouldn't run.  I have
// not tried reinstalling the old driver, because, I think there
// is some new ioctl or something the new fxtv needs.  But, if
// I'm wrong about that, I could try putting the old driver back.

It really needs the latest driver upgrades to run.  This is ok.

// Environment: 2.2-RELENG as of Saturday, including the now-included
// Bt848 driver, which appears to have been updated properly (previously,
// I had the ~June driver hand-installed), fxtv-0.45, ATI Graphics
// Xpression, XFree86 3.3.1, using the Mach64 X server.
// 
// So, anyway, has anyone else tried the almost-2.2.5 release 
// with fxtv-0.45 using the X server in truecolor mode, and, 
// if so, anything odd?  It may have something to do with the
// relatively slow ATI card, but, it was working since early
// September using 2.2.2, fxtv-0.44, and the (June?) driver.

I have experience using fxtv with two ATI cards.  At home I have
an ATI 3D Pro Turbo, 8M VRAM.  It works wonderfully in True Color
mode.  At work I have an ATI Graphics Pro Turbo, 4M VRAM, and I
cannot get fxtv to work in True Color mode.  Neither DirectV
mode, nor XImages mode work at all.  It works in 15bpp mode,
though, and I have not tried anything below this.

					Jonny

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Randall Hopper wrote:
> Alex Nash:
>  |supported pixmap formats:
>  |    depth 1, bits_per_pixel 1, scanline_pad 32
>  |    depth 4, bits_per_pixel 8, scanline_pad 32
>  |    depth 8, bits_per_pixel 8, scanline_pad 32
>  |    depth 15, bits_per_pixel 16, scanline_pad 32
>  |    depth 16, bits_per_pixel 16, scanline_pad 32
>  |    depth 24, bits_per_pixel 32, scanline_pad 32
>  |    depth 32, bits_per_pixel 32, scanline_pad 32
> 
> Hmm..interesting.  Support for bunches of Pixmap depths simultaneously.

A feature new with AccelX 3.1 -- works great for programs like xdoom
which only understand 8-bpp.

> Just for kicks, what's the output of "fxtv -debug startup" look like (just
> the part before it starts talking about FONT stuff)?  You should see fxtv
> chosing your 24-bpp visual to work in.  Pretty sure it will; just want to
> sanity check this.

It sure did (see the attachment).

> BTW, you're frame buffer is running in 24-bpp, right?  I'm slightly puzzled
> by the fact that the "default visual id" is your 8-bpp PseudoColor visual.

Yes, 24-bpp.  I'm as puzzled as you are about how it works, but I haven't
seen a program yet which was thrown off by it.

> OR, if you in fact "are" running your frame buffer in 8-bpp, and the Xaccel
> server doesn't handle 24-bit ximages in 8-bpp mode, this just might explain
> the black screen you're seeing :-)

I can only wish :)  But seriously, given the static for audio I'm getting,
I think fxtv and AccelX are faultless.

Alex
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Querying Supported Capture Pixel Formats:
   bpp  Bpp  R,G,B Masks                   Swap
   ---  ---  ----------------------------  ----
    15   2   00007c00, 000003e0, 0000001f  NB  
    16   2   0000f800, 000007e0, 0000001f  NB  
    24   3   00ff0000, 0000ff00, 000000ff   B  
    24   4   00ff0000, 0000ff00, 000000ff  NBWb

Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DGA" missing on display ":0.0".
XF86DGAQueryVersion() failed

Rating Available Visuals:
   Rating  Class        bpp  Bpp  R,G,B Masks                   Swap  DirectVid
   ------  -----------  ---  ---  ----------------------------  ----  ---------
     2     PseudoColor    8  1,1  00000000, 00000000, 00000000   --      No 
     1     GrayScale      8  1,1  00000000, 00000000, 00000000   --      No 
     4     TrueColor     24  1,1  00ff0000, 0000ff00, 000000ff   --      No 
Default Visual is 24-bpp TrueColor

Xlib:  extension "XFree86-VidModeExtension" missing on display ":0.0".
XF86VidModeQueryVersion() failed

STATION ANNOTATION FONT:
Validating font spec '-adobe-utopia-bold-r-*-*-0-0-*-*-*-0-iso8859-1'
Found at least one registered font, and the first one is an XLFD font:
  '-adobe-utopia-bold-r-normal--0-0-100-100-p-0-iso8859-1'
Trying to load a '25' pixel size version
Load failed:
  -adobe-utopia-bold-r-normal--0-0-100-100-p-0-iso8859-1
Falling back on '10x20' font.

TUNER MODE ANNOTATION FONT:
Validating font spec '-adobe-utopia-bold-r-*-*-0-0-*-*-*-0-iso8859-1'
Found at least one registered font, and the first one is an XLFD font:
  '-adobe-utopia-bold-r-normal--0-0-100-100-p-0-iso8859-1'
Trying to load a '20' pixel size version
Load failed:
  -adobe-utopia-bold-r-normal--0-0-100-100-p-0-iso8859-1
Falling back on '10x20' font.

INPUT DEVICE ANNOTATION FONT:
Validating font spec '-adobe-utopia-bold-r-*-*-0-0-*-*-*-0-iso8859-1'
Found at least one registered font, and the first one is an XLFD font:
  '-adobe-utopia-bold-r-normal--0-0-100-100-p-0-iso8859-1'
Trying to load a '20' pixel size version
Load failed:
  -adobe-utopia-bold-r-normal--0-0-100-100-p-0-iso8859-1
Falling back on '10x20' font.

VOLUME ANNOTATION FONT:
Validating font spec '-adobe-utopia-bold-r-*-*-0-0-*-*-*-0-iso8859-1'
Found at least one registered font, and the first one is an XLFD font:
  '-adobe-utopia-bold-r-normal--0-0-100-100-p-0-iso8859-1'
Trying to load a '20' pixel size version
Load failed:
  -adobe-utopia-bold-r-normal--0-0-100-100-p-0-iso8859-1
Falling back on '10x20' font.

MUTE ANNOTATION FONT:
Validating font spec '-adobe-utopia-bold-r-*-*-0-0-*-*-*-0-iso8859-1'
Found at least one registered font, and the first one is an XLFD font:
  '-adobe-utopia-bold-r-normal--0-0-100-100-p-0-iso8859-1'
Trying to load a '15' pixel size version
Load failed:
  -adobe-utopia-bold-r-normal--0-0-100-100-p-0-iso8859-1
Falling back on '10x20' font.
Direct Video not supported by visual...using XImages

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Flemming Jacobsen wrote:
> > I'm stumped.  The kernel appears to identify the card without a problem:
> >
> >   bktr0 <BrookTree 848> rev 17 int a irq 9 on pci0:12
> >   Hauppauge WinCast/TV, Temic PAL tuner, dbx stereo.
> 
> Are you sure that the tuner is a Temic? My Hauppauge card (PAL,
> Text, Radio - probably a model 418) has a Philips tuner.
> You have to take off the Hauppauge sticker to check - be
> carefull that you don't remove the text on the stickers below.
> (I'm at work now, but I remenber setting an option in the kernel
> config. file to force the driver to assume a Philips tuner).

Doh!  I have model 452, which is most definitely NTSC.  I'll
try some experiments with OVERRIDE_TUNER.  Thanks for pointing
that out.

> The problem is probably that the sticker on the (i.e. my) tuner
> module says FM1216. I think the ones the driver is based on are the
> F[IR]1216 tuners.

Amancio came up with a nifty URL for the Philips semiconductor
search engine.  Alas, the documentation for the F[IRM]1216
tuners is off-line at the moment.

> Currently my advise to the public is: Stay away from the
> Hauppauge cards with radio.

Agreed.

Alex

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Well, 
My old vic-2.7 still works with the bt848 driver.

Please make sure that you have :
cd /dev
ln -s meteor btkr
ln -s meteor0 bktr0

If it still does not work please let me know.

Also on http://www.freebsd.org/~ahasty/Bt848.html

There is a version of grabber-meteor.cc for vic-2.8  which supports both
the matrox and bt848 driver by basically locating /dev/bktr and /dev/meteor
no other bt848 specific ioctl was added.

Try 16bit color depth with fxtv and your X setup.

	Amancio

> 
> Well, I had a little time to experiment with the Bt848 driver/fxtv 
> this weekend/yesterday, so, since I understand that fxtv-0.45 and
> the updated Bt848 driver are in the 2.2.x and 3.0-current source trees,
> I upgraded to the latest (late Saturday) 2.2 RELENG, soon to be 2.2.5.
> I wanted to test the soon-to-be-2.2.5 release wrt the Bt848.
> It appeared to have updated fxtv and bt848 drivers.  I did a 
> "make world" overnight, it worked, and fxtv and video in worked.
> 
> 
> A few complications.
> 
> [Of course, I ran into the same "TVSetChannel" problem, but, 
> that was easily fixed by the advice on "freebsd-multimedia".]  
> 
> Somewhere in all the upgrades, [I freely admit that during upgrades
> operator error is a possibility}, I have experienced two new problems.
> 
> First, the vic 2.8 framegrabber no longer seems to detect the Bt848, 
> as it did before, so, I can't do video input to vic.   Was a change
> to vic required to support the modified driver?  It was working
> Saturday (I checked), before the cvsup and "make world".  Are there 
> any modifications to the vic source needed to go with the latest 
> driver?  As I said, this was working before the upgrade, and I did
> not upgrade vic, so the change would have had to have been in 
> cvsup'ed system source or in one of the /usr/ports dependent libraries, 
> some of which may have been updated since vic was last built.
> 
> Now, fxtv-0.45 works in 8-bit color mode (I was expecting a somewhat
> different user interface from fxtv-0.44, but it looks the same to me -
> do I have an X resources problem?), although, fxtv seems to ignore the 
> channel selection X resources that I had set before (but, you can go up 
> and down one-channel-at-a-time) in the channel space.  Was there an 
> announcement of new X resources to set/handle the channels?  Is there 
> another way to do this now - I saw no menu.  In any case, I assume that 
> all this will sort itself out over time and has nothing to do with
> the driver changes.
> 
> The other, potentially serious, problem is that in (32-bit) 
> Truecolor (using an ATI Graphics Xpression), a large horizontal
> band of what appears to be every-other line (e.g. even or odd?) 
> is messed up.  I don't have the exact dimensions, but, I would 
> say that this band goes perhaps from lines ~120 to ~300 on the
> displayed video image.  Now, I did see  a similar effect before 
> with 2.2.2-RELEASE and fxtv-0.43 or -0.44 (somewhere in the 
> June-August timeframe), and, after recompiling and reinstalling 
> everything in September, it mysteriously went away.  But, now 
> the problem is back.  I tried cleaning, deleting, and reinstalling 
> from port source, a few things, but, it made no difference.
> 8-bit color mode still works fine.
> 
> I also tried running the old fxtv, which I had squirreled away,
> and, it produced some error messages and wouldn't run.  I have
> not tried reinstalling the old driver, because, I think there
> is some new ioctl or something the new fxtv needs.  But, if
> I'm wrong about that, I could try putting the old driver back.
> 
> Environment: 2.2-RELENG as of Saturday, including the now-included
> Bt848 driver, which appears to have been updated properly (previously,
> I had the ~June driver hand-installed), fxtv-0.45, ATI Graphics
> Xpression, XFree86 3.3.1, using the Mach64 X server.
> 
> 
> So, anyway, has anyone else tried the almost-2.2.5 release 
> with fxtv-0.45 using the X server in truecolor mode, and, 
> if so, anything odd?  It may have something to do with the
> relatively slow ATI card, but, it was working since early
> September using 2.2.2, fxtv-0.44, and the (June?) driver.
> 
> 
> -Hugh LaMaster
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Can you try out Xfree86 3.3.1 ?

	Tnks,
	Amancio



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i'm not sure if this is a hardware problem or not...
but i've only getting a left channel output from 
a toshiba atapi cdrom drive (when i play music).

When i plug in a pair of headphones, all i get
is the right channel... not the left.  i'm puzzled.

The volume controls in cdcontrol work, does
something else need to be configured?

mts.

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oops.  i meant i only get right channel output, never
left channel output.  i keep thinking i ought to
review code near wcd_setchan.

i have no problem with 9660 style data on the drive.

mts.

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Thats an update to linux_ioctl so it compiles with recent 3.0-current.
Basically, I just replaced linux_misc.c with the one from current.

2.2- folks can safely ignore this update.

	Cheers,
	Amancio




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Last week, one of my scsi disk died and I hosed my main scsi disk.
My quantum 2.1 gig got replaced by a Seagate Cheeta 4.3 Gig, 10000 rpm 8)

The ftp directory has been restored however my http pages still need to
be restored. This is a great reminder to re-install my scsi tape drive 8)


	Cheers,
	Amancio



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Thats a win95 application from brooktree to display the register values
in the bt848 chipset.

I think this is a great tool to fine tune our driver or figure out
whats going on with the tuner section. 

The registers of interest with respect to tuners are:
gpio_dma_ctl
gpio_reg_inp
gpio_data

If you look in brooktree848.c:set_audio it should be fairly
straightforward to find out how to set gpio_data and gpio_reg_inp.


Perhaps someone  can get the Philips FM1216 data sheet via fax 8)

http://www.semiconductors.philips.com/search/fod.html


	Cheers,
	Amancio



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Hi,

I found the datasheet for the FR126 which has video and fm tuner
sections:
http://www.dc-na.comp.philips.com/fi1200.html

Perhaps is closed enough to the fm1216 model.

	Cheers,
	Amancio


> config. file to force the driver to assume a Philips tuner).
> 
> The problem is probably that the sticker on the (i.e. my) tuner
> module says FM1216. I think the ones the driver is based on are the
> F[IR]1216 tuners.
> 






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Hi,

> I found the datasheet for the FR126 which has video and fm tuner
> sections:
> http://www.dc-na.comp.philips.com/fi1200.html
> 
> Perhaps is closed enough to the fm1216 model.

I've got that one, and according to that the band-switching in
your driver is OK. Actually I can't see any conflicts between
the sheet and your driver.

I emailed the author of the Linux driver (nice, helpfull guy).
According to him, the Linux driver supports my card.
He told me that the FM and FI/FR tuners are not very different
but that he had to fix something in order to not enable the 
radio.
I looked at the Linux driver, but I didn't get any wiser
(according to it the band select bytes are: 0xA4,0x94,0x34 -
according to the FR1216 specs this (i.e. setting bit 3) will
select the radio (at least for the low band)).

I got a name at Hauppauge from whom he got a fax of the interesting
pages of the FM1216 specs. I sent the guy a polite letter -
hopefully he'll send something to me.


	Hyg'
	Flemming

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"matthew" <root@cyrix.futurelab.com> says:
	did you check the command "mixer"
	 
	 ----------
	 > From: Michael T. Stolarchuk <mts@rare.net>
	 > To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG
	 > Cc: mts@rare.net
	 > Subject: toshiba atapi cd drive.
	 > Date: Tuesday, October 21, 1997 8:13 PM
	 > 
	 > 
	 > i'm not sure if this is a hardware problem or not...
	 > but i've only getting a right channel output from 
	 > a toshiba atapi cdrom drive (when i play music).
	 > 
	 > When i plug in a pair of headphones, all i get
	 > is the right channel... not the left.  i'm puzzled.
	 > 
	 > The volume controls in cdcontrol work, does
	 > something else need to be configured?
	 > 
	 > mts.

rare% mixer
Mixer vol      is currently set to  90:90
Mixer bass     is currently set to  75:75
Mixer treble   is currently set to  75:75
Mixer synth    is currently set to  75:75
Mixer pcm      is currently set to  75:75
Mixer speaker  is currently set to  75:75
Mixer line     is currently set to  75:75
Mixer mic      is currently set to  16:16
Mixer cd       is currently set to  75:75
Mixer igain    is currently set to  75:75
Mixer ogain    is currently set to  75:75

all values are set equally.
The left channel is still missing.
doesn't mixer control the soundcard?
i still get left channel missing from the headphone port
on the cd player, which is why i believe its wcd related.

mts.

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sorry to bug ya.

As i was getting ready to play with a cheap new sony cr writer
(cdu926s), i unplugged the cable from the cd player from the 
cd player to the soundblaster board.

When i plugged the headphones in, the sound wasn't attenuated anymore,
AND BOTH CHANNELs appeared.

This is a soundBlaster 64 awe board, and it has two jacks,
one which is black, labeled CD, another which is labeled
aux1.  It SEEMS like the traditional cdrom audio black/white 
cable would plug into the (black) cdrom, and the white (soundblaster)
but that's not true.  The soundblaster wants a black/black
style connector.

i've got to find out what the white aux1 connector is for...

Thanks for putting up with me.

mts.

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On Tue, 21 Oct 1997, Sergey Shkonda wrote:

Use sox.  In the ports tree under `audio'.

Doug White                              | University of Oregon  
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On Mon, 20 Oct 1997, Wolfram Schneider wrote:

> 	Is there any Video Conferencing solution you know of on freeBSD.
> It should work both on Ethernet LAN and SLIP or PPP WAN at 28.8K.

We really don't have any products that use this little bandwidth.  Across
a standard Ethernet segment, you can use vic/vat.

> Do you know of any drivers for Video blaster SE100 on BSD.

Not that I know of.

Doug White                              | University of Oregon  
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Just a brief note to tell that I now have guspnp support in my audio
driver. The relevant bits are available from

	http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/snd971022.tgz

there are still a few things to fix (e.g. some GUS cards seem to
produce a DC offset which can cause problems in vat -- i have a
fix contributed by Brad Karp which should go in the next snap;
also, on the card I have ulaw/alaw is still not working) but overall
the code works pretty well.

If you have a gus and are impatient, have a try...

	Cheers
	Luigi

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On 23-Oct-97 Doug White wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Oct 1997, Sergey Shkonda wrote:
> 
> Use sox.  In the ports tree under `audio'.
    sox _can't_ play MS ADPCM:

>From soxgamma:
 wav.c:

...
wavstartread(ft) 
{
 ...

  switch (wFormatTag)
  {
    case WAVE_FORMAT_UNKNOWN:
     fail("Sorry, this WAV file is in Microsoft Official Unknown format.");
 ...
    case WAVE_FORMAT_ADPCM:
     fail("Sorry, this WAV file is in Microsoft ADPCM format.");
    case WAVE_FORMAT_ALAW:  /* Think I can handle this */
...
}

> 
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After unpacking their 5.0B1 version, I get this behavior:

jkh@time-> pwd
/usr/tmp/rvplayer5.0b1
jkh@time-> LD_LIBRARY_PATH=`pwd` ./rvplayer
LINUX: 'ioctl' fd=6, typ=0x450(P), num=0xf not implemented

The control panel comes up as normal, and I can even open the default
realvideo "welcome" and get what looks like a single frame of the
video, then nix.  I don't know if the failed ioctl() and the lack of
video is related in anyway, but there you have it.  Anyone have any
better luck?

					Jordan

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Thats a linux audio ioctl not impleted in your linux emulation layer .

	Cheers,
	Amancio



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If you like you can try guspnp21 which seems to work with 
the linux rvplayer and you will need to get also
ftp://rah.star-gate.com/pub/linux_ioctl.tar.gz 

This is only for 3.0 -current .

	Cheers,
	Amancio




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Thanks Amancio, I kind of figured that. :-)

What I was more curious about was what it was trying to do and
how hard it would be to implement.

					Jordan

> Thats a linux audio ioctl not impleted in your linux emulation layer .
> 
> 	Cheers,
> 	Amancio
> 
> 


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Ah, thanks!  That's exactly what I was looking for. :)

				Jordan
> 
> 
> If you like you can try guspnp21 which seems to work with 
> the linux rvplayer and you will need to get also
> ftp://rah.star-gate.com/pub/linux_ioctl.tar.gz 
> 
> This is only for 3.0 -current .
> 
> 	Cheers,
> 	Amancio
> 
> 
> 


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Well, 

is not that hard to implement and the ioctl is :

#define SNDCTL_DSP_GETFMTS              _IOR ('P',11, int) /* Returns a mask */

	Cheers,
	Amancio



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On Thu, 23 Oct 1997, Amancio Hasty wrote:

>If you like you can try guspnp21 which seems to work with 
>the linux rvplayer and you will need to get also
>ftp://rah.star-gate.com/pub/linux_ioctl.tar.gz 

>This is only for 3.0 -current .

Aaargh.  Do you know if anyone has gotten that stuff to work with
2.2-stable?  I'm not sure I want to go to -current yet... bleh

>	Cheers,
>	Amancio


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You don't need guspnp21 given that the problem was due to a 
bug in  the way that the driver was handling the system call poll.

The system call poll  is not available for 2.2.x

	Amancio



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On Mon, 20 Oct 1997, Wolfram Schneider wrote:

>       Is there any Video Conferencing solution you know of on freeBSD.
> It should work both on Ethernet LAN and SLIP or PPP WAN at 28.8K.
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I assume that you realize that you can't satisfy both requirements
within the same session.  [At the present time - there is research
going on with layered codecs, etc., but, for the moment, you have
to choose your settings to match the lowest-bitrate.]


The standard Mbone tools (sdr; vic; vat or rat; wb or nte) work 
fine over Ethernet, and even passably well over ISDN with some 
care used in choosing codecs (e.g. DVI4 or GSM audio) and parameters
(keeping video bitrate down).

Over 28.8, however, you have very limited options.  One option
is to use proprietary hardware and software, rather than FreeBSD.  
Even then, quality is limited.

The other option is to go ahead and use vat/rat, with the lpc4 codec.  
I have used it before under vat, (on an SGI Irix system - I haven't 
tested it on FreeBSD or rat) and it worked OK for me.  LPC4 sounds 
tolerable for speech,  like a moderate-quality AM radio signal listened to 
over a portable radio speaker - in other words, it is clear enough, 
but is obviously a little unnatural.  Music sounds absolutely terrible.
GSM sounds better, but, given SLIP/PPP overhead, I doubt if there 
would be enough bandwidth left over for much video.

You have no option but to severely limit your video bandwidth.
Using vat with either H.261 or nv (at very low bitrates, I prefer 
using nv or H.261 at a quality 4 setting, using "small picture", 
setting the bitrate limit to 1 fps and 10 kbits/sec, use
"sending slides" mode.  In other words, forget about trying to 
capture facial movement, and just get a sequence of stills.
(Others may differ with this choice.)

With your video bitrate set this low  - that is, to 10 kbits/sec, 
you *might* barely have enough audio bandwidth left over 
to use rat with lpc+lpc redundancy, which would likely be 
a good thing using SLIP/PPP over 28.8 modem.  Experiment.  
The "rat" audio tool is not quite as solid/debugged as vat,
but, the redundancy feature should make a big difference 
in low bitrate-lossy situations.  This is unavoidably
an experimental situation in which you will have to actively
choose settings which are, at best, usable.  In other words,
if you already have the systems at either end, it is worthwhile
to try, although, since this is experimental, you certainly
wouldn't want to "sell" a solution to an end-user.


If you were thinking about one of the new, very-low-bitrate video 
codecs, AFAIK, no support is expected any time soon, because, 
even though there are standards, they involve patented, 
proprietary technology that has to be licensed. 



Corrections welcome.

-Hugh LaMaster



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On Thu, 23 Oct 1997, Ken Krebs wrote:

> On Thu, 23 Oct 1997, Amancio Hasty wrote:
> 
> >If you like you can try guspnp21 which seems to work with 
> >the linux rvplayer and you will need to get also
> >ftp://rah.star-gate.com/pub/linux_ioctl.tar.gz 
> 
> >This is only for 3.0 -current .
> 
> Aaargh.  Do you know if anyone has gotten that stuff to work with
> 2.2-stable?  I'm not sure I want to go to -current yet... bleh

Echo that.  What was the last gugpnp to support 2.2.x, and does someone
still have it laying around? guspnp18 is still too late and that's the
earliest that's on rah.  I had to go back to guspnp11 (which I luckily
still had laying around) after I upgraded to 2.2.5. 

Doug White                              | University of Oregon  
Internet:  dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu    | Residence Networking Assistant
http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite    | Computer Science Major



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According to Doug White:
> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 12:53:40 -0700 (PDT)
> To: William Bulley <web@merit.edu>
> Subject: Re: sound
> 
> On Mon, 13 Oct 1997, William Bulley wrote:
> 
> > My co-worker practically insisted I buy a clone SoundBlaster card
> > for my brand-spanking new FreeBSD box.  I understand I will have
> > to rebuild my kernel and add drivers and devices, but I am somewhat
> > worried since the card I was sent has the dreaded "Plug-n-Play"
> > marketing hype plastered all over the worthless Micro$loth-oriented
> > documentation.
> > 
> > I guess the first question is: will FreeBSD even stand a chance at
> > using this device?  Then, and only if the answer is yes, I need to
> > understand what purposes I will be able to use the bloody thing...  :-)
> 
> Yes, it will, hopefully.  Contact multimedia@freebsd.org.

Doug says to contact this list.  What day you?

Regards,

web...

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> > On Mon, 13 Oct 1997, William Bulley wrote:
> > 
> > > My co-worker practically insisted I buy a clone SoundBlaster card
> > > for my brand-spanking new FreeBSD box.  I understand I will have

my new driver at http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/FreeBSD.html

supports PnP and SoundBlaster16.

I strongly suggest you _not_ to buy a SoundBlaster, and instead go for
some cheap Windows Sound System-compatible card, e.g. the AOpen AW35 or
others based on the Crystal CS423x, Yamaha, or if you have no other
chance, OPTI931 chipsets. The WSS clones support 16-bit full duplex,
whereas the SB16 can only do full duplex with a trick and with lower
quality (8 bit only on one channel).

	Cheers
	Luigi
-----------------------------+--------------------------------------
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email: luigi@iet.unipi.it    |  Universita' di Pisa
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	I'm happily using what Amancio's done, but would like to see it go 
into the main code branch. Does anybody have plans to commit it?


	Stephen


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Not any time soon it has a dependency on the linux sound driver 3.5 interface.


	Amancio



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Stephen Hocking wrote:
> 	I'm happily using what Amancio's done, but would like to see it go 
> into the main code branch. Does anybody have plans to commit it?

I have been committing Amancio's work bit-by-bit. I'd be happy to bung 
this in if he is...

M
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> Stephen Hocking wrote:
> > 	I'm happily using what Amancio's done, but would like to see it go 
> > into the main code branch. Does anybody have plans to commit it?
> 
> I have been committing Amancio's work bit-by-bit. I'd be happy to bung 
> this in if he is...
> 
> M

Hi  Mark,

Is up to you guys if you want to check in the code then thats fine with
me.

	Cheers,
	Amancio



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Amancio Hasty wrote:
> If you like you can try guspnp21 which seems to work with 
> the linux rvplayer and you will need to get also
> ftp://rah.star-gate.com/pub/linux_ioctl.tar.gz 
> 
> This is only for 3.0 -current .

I tried this, and it does indeed work. Well done!

I had do patch my system a bit to get it (linux_ioctl) to compile:

1) I had to put the guspnp21's soundcard.h into
   sys/i386/include (AKA /usr/include/machine).

2) I had to patch the code to work with untimeout. But it appears, on 
   making a diff with a _really_ recent CURRENT, that some of those 
   problems have already been fixed?

What is the most recent version of this, and how well is it working on 
a _recent_ current?

M
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The last time I sup the system was last Monday morning.

--------------------------------------------------------------
make world completed on Mon Oct 20 12:01:43 PDT 1997
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	Cheers,
	Amancio



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My brother bought today new Hauppauge Win/TV PCI Model 406 card.  I
recommended that because it's same card I have used couple months with
great success.  Bt848 driver couldn't probe card and then I looked bt848
chip.  It was BT849!  Card also has new PCI ID.  I changed this to
brktree_reg.h (#define BROOKTREE_848_ID 0x0351109E).  After this
change card probed ok.  External video mode does now work but tuner
mode doesn't.

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lamaster@george.arc.nasa.gov wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 20 Oct 1997, Wolfram Schneider wrote:
> 
> >       Is there any Video Conferencing solution you know of on freeBSD.
> > It should work both on Ethernet LAN and SLIP or PPP WAN at 28.8K.
>   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> I assume that you realize that you can't satisfy both requirements
> within the same session.  [At the present time - there is research
> going on with layered codecs, etc., but, for the moment, you have
> to choose your settings to match the lowest-bitrate.]
> 
> The standard Mbone tools (sdr; vic; vat or rat; wb or nte) work
> fine over Ethernet, and even passably well over ISDN with some
> care used in choosing codecs (e.g. DVI4 or GSM audio) and parameters
> (keeping video bitrate down).
> 
> Over 28.8, however, you have very limited options.  One option
> is to use proprietary hardware and software, rather than FreeBSD.
> Even then, quality is limited.
[snip]
> Corrections welcome.

No offense taken, but having worked on H.324, I feel compelled to point out
that that H.324 is an international _standard_ solution to videoconferencing
over dial-up modems at speeds below 33.6Kbps.  It uses (usually) the H.263
video codec, which provides much better video quality than H.261 at such
low speeds.  Sure, the quality is "limited" compared to the luxurious stuff
you can get over a LAN, but hey, remember it's going over a 4KHz-bandwidth
phone line!  In my opinion it is quite usable, once you get used to the fact
that it's not going to look as good as your television.  :-)

Unfortunately, none of the H.324 hardware/software solutions I'm aware of
work with FreeBSD - they're all tailored to Windows 95 - except for the
new stand-alone videophones that have become available recently (for example,
the C-Phone box you can buy at retail) that don't require any computer.

Gary Corcoran

(personal opinions only)

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For now, just return the card and get one that has a Bt848.

	Amancio



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> For now, just return the card and get one that has a Bt848.

I have a Miro PCTV card with a Bt848 and a Temic tuner which partially
works - it seems to do only NTSC (even though it does PAL under
windows) and have some offset-problem for the DMA when running in
32-bit mode (the offset works correctly in 16-bit mode).

Should I try to debug this, or are other people working on it and I
should just not bother?  Any hints on where to start?

I have so far tried to switch the driver probes around to make the
Tenic detect as a PAL, and done some other minor experimental driver
changes, but it still seem to be doing NTSC only.

Eivind.

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Please try to debug it hour PAL support is rather week.

	Tnks,
	Amancio

> > For now, just return the card and get one that has a Bt848.
> 
> I have a Miro PCTV card with a Bt848 and a Temic tuner which partially
> works - it seems to do only NTSC (even though it does PAL under
> windows) and have some offset-problem for the DMA when running in
> 32-bit mode (the offset works correctly in 16-bit mode).
> 
> Should I try to debug this, or are other people working on it and I
> should just not bother?  Any hints on where to start?
> 
> I have so far tried to switch the driver probes around to make the
> Tenic detect as a PAL, and done some other minor experimental driver
> changes, but it still seem to be doing NTSC only.
> 
> Eivind.