From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 11 01:22:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA17915 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 11 May 1997 01:22:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from obiwan.psinet.net.au (obiwan.psinet.net.au [203.19.28.59]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA17909 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 01:22:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (adrian@localhost) by obiwan.psinet.net.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA08949; Sun, 11 May 1997 16:05:22 +0800 (WST) Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 16:05:22 +0800 (WST) From: Adrian Chadd To: Steve Howe cc: "Jay D. Nelson" , freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Installation Problems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk [snip] > have these extra "psuedo-partitions" at the cost of making things more > non-standard. i mean - if you really wanted 8 partitions, why not just > get a second hard drive? > > / > /dos > /usr > /var > > isn't that enough for a 1 drive system? Linux uses the "normal" partitions, and supports "extended" partitions too (however you can't boot from them). You've forgotten swap there btw :) Adrian From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 11 01:28:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA18106 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 11 May 1997 01:28:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hubbub.cisco.com (mailgate-sj-1.cisco.com [198.92.30.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA18101 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 01:28:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 171.69.113.22 (homework.cisco.com [171.69.113.22]) by hubbub.cisco.com (8.8.4-Cisco.1/CISCO.GATE.1.1) with SMTP id BAA09567 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 01:28:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <33758383.1A58@sprynet.com> Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 02:31:57 -0600 From: Greg Satz Reply-To: satz@sprynet.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: FreeBSD JDK 1.0.2 libnet.so (UDP) busted? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am attempting to get the FreeBSD 1.0.2 JDK port to receive UDP datagrams using DatagramSocket.receive(). All I get is errno 35, resource temporarily unavailable. The java code calls into a native routine called datagramSocketReceive that lives in lib/i386/libnet.so. >From the ktrace it appears to be doing a recvfrom system call and returning the above errno. At that point it returns an IOException. The bottom line is DatagramSocket.receive() never returns a UDP packet. It works fine on Solaris, Mac and Win95 so I know it isn't my java code. Since this package is unsupported I know it may not get fixed but I figured I would ask anyway. Thanks, Greg Satz PS. I am running 2.2-stable. From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 11 02:18:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA19781 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 11 May 1997 02:18:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns.isi.co.jp (ns.isi.co.jp [202.214.62.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id CAA19776 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 02:18:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from john@localhost) by ns.isi.co.jp (8.6.12/3.4W2 ISI-Net 1996/10/27) id SAA25670; Sun, 11 May 1997 18:12:35 +0900 Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 18:12:35 +0900 From: john cooper Message-Id: <199705110912.SAA25670@ns.isi.co.jp> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Quick (freebsd 2.2.1 / xf86 / flakey mouse) question Cc: john@isi.co.jp Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I searched the freebsd and XF86 FAQ's but found nothing corresponding the the problem I'm experiencing. I have a ps/2 mouse systems mouse that exhibits wierd behavior under both fvwm and twm. The cursor can be moved with the mouse, however the cursor instantly 'homes' back to the lower left corner of the screen at seemingly random times. The frequency of this is so high that X is effectively unuseable. The mouse is at 0x60, IRQ 12 as usual and conflicts with no other device as best as I can tell. I suspect some xf86 configuration problem here as the erratic behavior occurs in fvwm and twm. I tried selecting mouse comm protocols other than ps/2, which only made things worse. So at this point I'm stuck. This is a pretty generic installation so I suspect some other poor soul already grappled with this problem. Help! Any and all advice is most welcome. Thanks, -john Please respond to: john@isi.co.jp From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 11 03:55:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA23473 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 11 May 1997 03:55:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iceberg.anchorage.net. (root@iceberg.anchorage.net [207.14.72.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id DAA23462 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 03:55:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aak.anchorage.net (ai-130 [207.14.72.130]) by iceberg.anchorage.net. (8.6.11/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA29899; Sun, 11 May 1997 01:52:20 -0800 Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 02:43:28 -0800 (AKDT) From: Steve Howe X-Sender: abc@aak.anchorage.net To: Nadav Eiron cc: Richard Johnson , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to re-install bootmanager? In-Reply-To: <33756BEE.7537@barcode.co.il> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 11 May 1997, Nadav Eiron wrote: > Richard Johnson wrote: > > > > I installed freebsd while keeping a DOS partition as partition#0 on my drive. > > Initially I installed bootmanager and it allowed me to boot whichever I wanted > > just perfectly. However, now I have installed Windoze95 into partition#0 > > and it overwrote the bootmanager code. How do I go about re-installing > > bootmanager? > > > > /raj > > Boot a DOS disketter (Win95 DOS mode might not do), and run bootinst.exe > from the /tools directory on the CD/ftp site. i've done it before by just booting the bootfloppy and carefully doiing a custom install. i thing i just didn't select anything or modify anything but chose the MBR and then "committed" ... ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sleep: a sign a caffeine deprivation ... http://www.anchorage.net/~un_x ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 11 06:14:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA28089 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 11 May 1997 06:14:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dub-img-9.compuserve.com (dub-img-9.compuserve.com [149.174.206.139]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA28084 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 06:14:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by dub-img-9.compuserve.com (8.6.10/5.950515) id JAA13009; Sun, 11 May 1997 09:13:30 -0400 Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 09:13:02 -0400 From: Jochim Jäckel Subject: Your CD-Rom and Fvwm95 To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <199705110913_MC2-165C-9294@compuserve.com> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello. I realized, that you ship with your Fvwm95-port on your 2.2.1 CD-Rom a "Linux 95"-Logo for the Start-menu. I created a "FreeBSD '95"-Logo with (of course) a little Chuck-Bitmap. If you are interested in getting this Xpm-file, please send me a mail. Bye, Joachim. (JJaeckel@compuserve.com) From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 11 06:22:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA28361 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 11 May 1997 06:22:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from federation.addy.com (federation.addy.com [207.239.68.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA28355 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 06:22:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freyes.dh.i-2000.com (slip166-72-219-96.ny.us.ibm.net [166.72.219.96]) by federation.addy.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA13117 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 09:22:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199705111322.JAA13117@federation.addy.com> From: "Francisco Reyes" To: "FreeBSD questions" Date: Sun, 11 May 97 09:19:49 -0400 Reply-To: "Francisco Reyes" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.91 For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: How to re-install or rebuild user ppp? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 11 May 1997 09:50:12 +0300, Nadav Eiron wrote: >Francisco Reyes wrote: >> My user ppp gives me an error >> Is there a way to re-install ppp and all the files it depends on or to >> re-build them from sources? > >Yes there is, but that's probably not the problem. More likely it's >something you've misconfigured. What is the error you're getting? >Nadav Just tried running to get the error: May 11 09:06 reyes01 /kernel:pid165 (ppp), uid0: exited on signal 11, segmentation fault. From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 11 08:59:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA02238 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 11 May 1997 08:59:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from u1.farm.idt.net (root@u1.farm.idt.net [169.132.8.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA02233 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 08:59:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ppp-43.ts-1.suf.idt.net (ppp-43.ts-1.suf.idt.net [169.132.80.43]) by u1.farm.idt.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA22237 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 11:59:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3375EE95.400@idt.net> Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 09:06:45 -0700 From: jim ward X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: I need help Badly. X-URL: http://www.freebsd.org/mailto.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk hey ... i'm an experienced computer user and i pretty much know what i'm doing with unix (i have linux, os/2 and win95 booting using system commander. i tried to install freebsd, and now my system can't recognise my hard drive. if i try to reinstall any operating system, it can't recognise my HD. if i try booting into dos, it wont work. i've tried every single possible BIOS setting and even reinstalling freeBSD. i've checked my connections on the inside of my computer and the hard drive is there and connected. so what could cause this? anxious ... jim ward ... (thanks) From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 11 09:45:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA04011 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 11 May 1997 09:45:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from blue.bad.bris.ac.uk (blue.bad.bris.ac.uk [137.222.132.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA04006 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 09:45:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 13187 invoked by uid 57242); 11 May 1997 16:48:07 -0000 Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 17:48:05 +0100 (BST) From: Aled Treharne Reply-To: felix@royal.net To: jim ward cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: I need help Badly. In-Reply-To: <3375EE95.400@idt.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 11 May 1997, jim ward wrote: > commander. i tried to install freebsd, and now my system can't recognise > my hard drive. if i try to reinstall any operating system, it can't > recognise my HD. if i try booting into dos, it wont work. i've tried > every single possible BIOS setting and even reinstalling freeBSD. i've > checked my connections on the inside of my computer and the hard drive is > there and connected. so what could cause this? This happened to me once. I went mad trying to work out what went wrong. My problem turned out to be a broken data cable. Looked fine, but obviously there was something wrong with it. To me it sounds like dodgy hardware, i.e. the controller, the cable (!) or even the disk itself. Hope this helps. Aled Treharne felix@royal.net "Big Bird meets Salvador Dali has been brought to you by the numbers L and ), and by the letter 3." For PGP Public key finger taff@blue.bad.bris.ac.uk #include(disclaim.h) From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 11 10:01:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA04639 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 11 May 1997 10:01:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iceberg.anchorage.net. (root@iceberg.anchorage.net [207.14.72.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA04627 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 10:01:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aak.anchorage.net (ai-130 [207.14.72.130]) by iceberg.anchorage.net. (8.6.11/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA30712 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 07:59:11 -0800 Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 08:51:46 -0800 (AKDT) From: Steve Howe X-Sender: abc@aak.anchorage.net To: freebsd-questions Subject: getopts Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk ok - i finally figured this out, and am posting my answer for anyone else that may be interested ... there are a few tricky aspects of it (w/thanks to zgabor). ------------------------------------------------------------------------- while getopts abc i; do case $i in a) a=$i; echo A;; b) b=$i; echo B;; c) c=$i; echo C;; ?) e=$i; echo huh?;; esac done shift $(($OPTIND - 1)) echo $a + $b + $c echo $0 $1 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- this script may be invoked as "script -abc file" or "script -bc -a file" or "script -c -cc file" ... (C will echo 3x) the "shift" statement MUST occur as above, or any "file" will not appear in "$1" when option parsing is done. you CANNOT replace the "shift" statement above with "a) a=$i; echo A; shift;;" type case statements, otherwise "script -abc file" where "-abc" is "$1" will get shifted 3x, and you will lose "file". any number of options in the getopts statement may be followed by a colon, in which case, $OPTARG will contain the options argument, which should be "caught" by its corresponding options "case" statement. the "e" case statement will trap any errors. i don't know if "getopts" can be used without a "while" statement ... From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 11 10:27:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA05494 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 11 May 1997 10:27:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hera.ecs.csus.edu (hera.ecs.csus.edu [130.86.71.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA05489 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 10:27:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gaia.ecs.csus.edu (gaia.ecs.csus.edu [130.86.71.9]) by hera.ecs.csus.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA15100 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 10:14:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from sithoa@localhost) by gaia.ecs.csus.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA01415; Sun, 11 May 1997 10:14:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 10:14:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Allen Sitho To: FreeBSD Subject: What is "invalid primary partition... magic"? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, When I tried to run Sysintall I get this message at the beginning. "Invalid Primary Partition Table.. magic." What is this? Should it be something I worry about? I have dos 622 on the first partition of the drive and bsd on the second partition. Is this a problem of mounting dos partition? Or is it more serious? Thanks. ooooo ooooo $$$$$$$$o o$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$o$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$ $$$$$ $$$$ Allen Sitho $$$$ "$$$$ $$$$" "$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$" ""$$$$$$$$$$$"" ""$$$$$"" "$" From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 11 11:21:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA07737 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 11 May 1997 11:21:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from light.pomona.edu (light.pomona.edu [134.173.72.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA07729 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 11:21:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jadeite@localhost) by light.pomona.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA12787 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 11:21:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 11:21:15 -0700 (PDT) From: jadeite To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: spreadsheet program Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk there are four spreadsheet programs listed in the ports collection. can anyone make a recommendation. thanx From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 11 11:58:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA09119 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 11 May 1997 11:58:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bobcat.ent.ohiou.edu (root@bobcat.Ent.OhioU.Edu [132.235.17.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA09112 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 11:58:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nec.ent.ohiou.edu by bobcat.ent.ohiou.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA10311; Sun, 11 May 1997 14:56:28 -0400 Message-ID: <337616D7.F3EBD3E4@bobcat.ent.ohiou.edu> Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 14:58:31 -0400 From: Chien-Hsien Wen Reply-To: wenchien@homer.ece.ohiou.edu Organization: Ohio University X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b4 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: 3C501 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Does the installation boot disk support 3COM 3C501? Becasue I could not that in the enternet card list during install. Thanks!! From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 11 13:17:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA11410 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 11 May 1997 13:17:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from net-thing.net (root@shell.net-thing.net [207.94.83.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA11402 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 13:17:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Obelisk@DAL.net Received: from [207.94.83.119] (acetone.net-thing.net [207.94.83.119]) by net-thing.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id QAA06947 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 16:18:35 -0400 X-Sender: nellie@mail.net-thing.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 16:19:15 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: SMP Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I stated my question incorrectly, basically is SMP support safe enough to use on a daily basis, as I am getting a dual p200 pro and don't wanna use Linux *EG* Thanks! __ _-==-=_,-. /--`' \_@-@.--< `--'\ \ <___/. \ \\ " / >=\\_/`< ____ /= | \_|/ _' `\ _/=== \___/ = -_ __/===================================================================== | PhiberOptics | Find me on DALnet as: | | obelisk@dal.net | PhiberOptics | | Beloved Fan of the Philadelphia Flyers | /server orion.dal.net port 7000 | ============================================================================= From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 11 13:19:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA11491 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 11 May 1997 13:19:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iceberg.anchorage.net. (root@iceberg.anchorage.net [207.14.72.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA11480 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 13:19:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aak.anchorage.net (ai-132 [207.14.72.132]) by iceberg.anchorage.net. (8.6.11/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA31486 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 11:17:15 -0800 Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 12:09:48 -0800 (AKDT) From: Steve Howe X-Sender: abc@aak.anchorage.net To: freebsd-questions Subject: hard links Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk is there any way to determine what files are hard links to s specific file? it's obvious for softlinks using "ls", but what about hard links? ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 11 13:37:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA11984 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 11 May 1997 13:37:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iceberg.anchorage.net. (root@iceberg.anchorage.net [207.14.72.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA11978 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 13:37:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aak.anchorage.net (ai-132 [207.14.72.132]) by iceberg.anchorage.net. (8.6.11/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA31524; Sun, 11 May 1997 11:35:11 -0800 Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 12:27:44 -0800 (AKDT) From: Steve Howe X-Sender: abc@aak.anchorage.net To: jim ward cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: I need help Badly. In-Reply-To: <3375EE95.400@idt.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 11 May 1997, jim ward wrote: > hey ... i'm an experienced computer user and i pretty much know what i'm > doing with unix (i have linux, os/2 and win95 booting using system > commander. i tried to install freebsd, and now my system can't recognise > my hard drive. if i try to reinstall any operating system, it can't > recognise my HD. if i try booting into dos, it wont work. i've tried > every single possible BIOS setting and even reinstalling freeBSD. i've > checked my connections on the inside of my computer and the hard drive is > there and connected. so what could cause this? > > anxious ... jim ward ... (thanks) what are the details? do you have a boot manager coming up? if not, put one in the MBR. then what happens? ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sleep: a sign a caffeine deprivation ... http://www.anchorage.net/~un_x ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 11 13:42:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA12157 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 11 May 1997 13:42:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iceberg.anchorage.net. (root@iceberg.anchorage.net [207.14.72.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA12152 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 13:42:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aak.anchorage.net (ai-132 [207.14.72.132]) by iceberg.anchorage.net. (8.6.11/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA31548; Sun, 11 May 1997 11:40:14 -0800 Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 12:32:47 -0800 (AKDT) From: Steve Howe X-Sender: abc@aak.anchorage.net To: Allen Sitho cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: What is "invalid primary partition... magic"? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 11 May 1997, Allen Sitho wrote: a magic number exists in the partitions table so that the block on the hard drive may be verified to be a partition table ... it's serious if it is causing you problems. > Hello, > When I tried to run Sysintall I get this message at the beginning. > "Invalid Primary Partition Table.. magic." What is this? Should it be > something I worry about? I have dos 622 on the first partition of the > drive and bsd on the second partition. Is this a problem of mounting dos > partition? Or is it more serious? Thanks. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sleep: a sign a caffeine deprivation ... http://www.anchorage.net/~un_x ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 11 13:47:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA12295 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 11 May 1997 13:47:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iceberg.anchorage.net. (root@iceberg.anchorage.net [207.14.72.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA12289 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 13:47:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aak.anchorage.net (ai-132 [207.14.72.132]) by iceberg.anchorage.net. (8.6.11/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA31567; Sun, 11 May 1997 11:45:08 -0800 Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 12:37:40 -0800 (AKDT) From: Steve Howe X-Sender: abc@aak.anchorage.net To: wenchien@homer.ece.ohiou.edu cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3C501 In-Reply-To: <337616D7.F3EBD3E4@bobcat.ent.ohiou.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 11 May 1997, Chien-Hsien Wen wrote: > Does the installation boot disk support 3COM 3C501? > Becasue I could not that in the enternet card list during install. i think so - check the HARDWARE.TXT file. i can't understand the 2nd part of your question. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sleep: a sign a caffeine deprivation ... http://www.anchorage.net/~un_x ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 11 14:01:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA12678 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 11 May 1997 14:01:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hubbub.cisco.com (mailgate-sj-1.cisco.com [198.92.30.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA12673 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 14:01:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rast.cisco.com (rast.cisco.com [171.69.113.55]) by hubbub.cisco.com (8.8.4-Cisco.1/CISCO.GATE.1.1) with ESMTP id OAA19945; Sun, 11 May 1997 14:00:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.cisco.com (localhost.cisco.com [127.0.0.1]) by rast.cisco.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA00463; Sun, 11 May 1997 14:00:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705112100.OAA00463@rast.cisco.com> To: Steve Howe cc: Nadav Eiron , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to re-install bootmanager? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 11 May 1997 02:43:28 -0800." Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 14:00:20 -0700 From: Richard Johnson Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Thanks to everyone for the suggestions. I booted from the install floppy and after going through a few menus in order to select installation media and what distributions to install (I just selected "man", it seemed safe), the install program was finally satisfied and installed bootmanager for me, then bombed on the rest of the install. I exited, rebooted, and now bootmanager is there just fine! /raj From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 11 14:23:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA13376 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 11 May 1997 14:23:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Vorlon.odc.net (nwestfal@Vorlon.odc.net [207.137.42.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA13371 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 14:23:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (nwestfal@localhost) by Vorlon.odc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA11530 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 14:23:14 -0700 Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 14:23:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Neal Westfall To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Support for DPT Smartcache IV Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Does FreeBSD have support for the DPT Smartcache IV RAID controllers? I have heard a rumor that DPT may have written a FreeBSD driver, but it is not listed in their literature that we got from them at Networld+Interop, nor can I find it on their web site. We are looking at building a dedicated NFS server and we would like to use FreeBSD rather than Linux if at all possible. TIA Neal Westfall Digital Odyssey From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 11 14:23:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA13411 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 11 May 1997 14:23:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from u3.farm.idt.net (root@u3.farm.idt.net [169.132.8.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA13404 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 14:23:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ppp-21.ts-1.suf.idt.net (ppp-21.ts-1.suf.idt.net [169.132.80.21]) by u3.farm.idt.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA02782; Sun, 11 May 1997 17:23:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <33763A6C.3E72@idt.net> Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 14:30:20 -0700 From: jim ward X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: felix@royal.net CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I need help Badly. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Aled Treharne wrote: > > On Sun, 11 May 1997, jim ward wrote: > > commander. i tried to install freebsd, and now my system can't recognise > > my hard drive. if i try to reinstall any operating system, it can't > > recognise my HD. if i try booting into dos, it wont work. i've tried > > every single possible BIOS setting and even reinstalling freeBSD. i've > > checked my connections on the inside of my computer and the hard drive is > > there and connected. so what could cause this? > > This happened to me once. I went mad trying to work out what went wrong. > My problem turned out to be a broken data cable. Looked fine, but > obviously there was something wrong with it. > To me it sounds like dodgy hardware, i.e. the controller, the cable (!) > or even the disk itself. Hope this helps. > > Aled Treharne felix@royal.net > "Big Bird meets Salvador Dali has been brought to you by the numbers L and > ), and by the letter 3." > For PGP Public key finger taff@blue.bad.bris.ac.uk > > #include(disclaim.h)ahh .. now all of a sudden im getting freebsd's boot manager, and it says it cant find "/" when i press "f1" (the only option) For freebsd. From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 11 14:48:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA13925 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 11 May 1997 14:48:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sliphost37.uni-trier.de (root@sliphost37.uni-trier.de [136.199.240.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA13920 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 14:48:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from blank@localhost) by sliphost37.uni-trier.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA02113; Sun, 11 May 1997 12:29:30 +0200 (CEST) From: Sascha Blank Message-Id: <199705111029.MAA02113@sliphost37.uni-trier.de> Subject: Re: Truncated digests In-Reply-To: <199705100610.OAA09652@vas.tomsk.su> from "Victor A. Sudakov" at "May 10, 97 02:10:21 pm" To: vas@vas.tomsk.su (Victor A. Sudakov) Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 12:29:30 +0200 (CEST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: blank@fox.uni-trier.de (Sascha Blank) X-System: FreeBSD 2.2-STABLE X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31H (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello Victor, Victor A. Sudakov has written recently: > Why do some of the freebsd-questions-digests come truncated? #207, for > example. are you using a mail-filter? I have made the experience that some filters (for example the elm filter) will truncate digests when another mail is quoted entirely in that digest. The filter thinks this quote is the beginning of another mail message and therefore discards everything starting from there. Maybe changing your filter will help you. -- Sascha Blank - mailto:blank@fox.uni-trier.de Student and System Administrator at the University of Trier, Germany Finger my account to receive my Public PGP key I don't speak for my employers, they don't pay me enough for that. From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 11 14:52:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA14275 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 11 May 1997 14:52:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from panix.com (panix.com [198.7.0.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA14264 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 14:52:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jbarrm@localhost) by panix.com (8.8.5/8.7/PanixU1.3) with SMTP id RAA22880 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 17:52:13 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 17:52:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Barry Masterson To: FreeBSD-questions Subject: xdoom: can't save game. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I installed xdoom, and it runs fine except that I can't save the game. The 'save' menu pops up, I choose an empty slot, fill it in, I even get the "game saved" prompt in the upper left of the screen. Except the game is not saved. Going back to 'save' or 'load game' brings up all empty slots. Those doomsav?.dsg files are nowhere. I know this feature worked in earlier versions of xdoom; before it became an offical port. This was when I had it all installed on my home directory, when I was running 2.1.5. Has anyone else experienced this? How can it be fixed? Thanks, Barry Masterson jbarrm@panix.com >--->--->--->--->---> FreeBSD 2.2.1-R <---<---<---<---<---< From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 11 15:32:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA16142 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 11 May 1997 15:32:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lightning.tbe.net (qmailr@lightning.tbe.net [208.208.122.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA16130 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 15:32:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 13482 invoked from network); 11 May 1997 22:29:19 -0000 Received: from ts8-155.intercall.com (HELO bc.bythehand.net) (207.77.26.155) by lightning.tbe.net with SMTP; 11 May 1997 22:29:19 -0000 Message-ID: <33764900.3B39@bythehand.com> Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 18:32:32 -0400 From: Bernard Courtney Reply-To: bc@bythehand.com Organization: Internet Creations By The Hand X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org CC: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: SCSI Host Adapter Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi All, I recently can accross a DTC 3150V SCSI Host Adapter for sale **CHEEP**, however I was wondering if it is compatable with FreeBSD 2.2.1. Thanks in advance. Bernard From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 11 15:33:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA16194 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 11 May 1997 15:33:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from capella.grayphics.com (root@capella.grayphics.com [207.211.152.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA16176; Sun, 11 May 1997 15:33:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (nick@localhost) by capella.grayphics.com (8.8.5/8.8.3) with SMTP id PAA09593; Sun, 11 May 1997 15:33:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 15:33:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Nick Esborn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Subject: 2.2.1R + Adaptec 2940UW + Microp 3243WT spontaneous reboot Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I recently upgraded from 2.1.5-R to 2.2.1-R, and added a wide Micropolis 3243WT. Since the installation, the machine has spontaneously rebooted itself, and I cannot find anything in the logs to suggest why. I remember reading something recently about an updated ahc driver to fix this problem... is this the case? For reference, there were a few such reboots before the upgrade, over the course of 6-8 months. I had suspected then that they might be due to the SCSI card, but this was before I had heard of others having the same problem. Thank you in advance to anyone who is able to shed some light on this. Here is my most recent boot log: May 11 08:55:49 capella login: login from host131.flex.net as ali May 11 09:10:09 capella /kernel: Copyright (c) 1992-1996 FreeBSD Inc. May 11 09:10:09 capella /kernel: Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 May 11 09:10:09 capella /kernel: The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. May 11 09:10:09 capella /kernel: May 11 09:10:09 capella /kernel: FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE #0: Sat May 10 21:20:16 PDT 1997 May 11 09:10:09 capella /kernel: root@:/usr/src/sys/compile/CAPELLA May 11 09:10:09 capella /kernel: CPU: Pentium Pro (233.09-MHz 686-class CPU) May 11 09:10:09 capella /kernel: Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x617 Stepping=7 May 11 09:10:09 capella /kernel: Features=0xfbff,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV> May 11 09:10:09 capella /kernel: real memory = 100663296 (98304K bytes) May 11 09:10:09 capella /kernel: avail memory = 94830592 (92608K bytes) May 11 09:10:09 capella /kernel: Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: May 11 09:10:09 capella /kernel: chip0 rev 2 on pci0:0 May 11 09:10:09 capella /kernel: chip1 rev 1 on pci0:7:0 May 11 09:10:09 capella /kernel: chip2 rev 0 on pci0:7:1 May 11 09:10:09 capella /kernel: ahc0 rev 0 int a irq 15 on pci0:13 May 11 09:10:10 capella /kernel: ahc0: aic7880 Wide Channel, SCSI Id=7, 16 SCBs May 11 09:10:10 capella /kernel: ahc0 waiting for scsi devices to settle May 11 09:10:10 capella /kernel: (ahc0:0:0): "MICROP 3243WT P429" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 May 11 09:10:10 capella /kernel: sd0(ahc0:0:0): Direct-Access 4095MB (8388315 512 byte sectors) May 11 09:10:10 capella /kernel: (ahc0:2:0): "SEAGATE ST43400N 1022" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 May 11 09:10:10 capella /kernel: sd1(ahc0:2:0): Direct-Access 2777MB (5688447 512 byte sectors) May 11 09:10:10 capella /kernel: de0 rev 17 int a irq 14 on pci0:14 May 11 09:10:10 capella /kernel: de0: DE500-XA 21140 [10-100Mb/s] pass 1.1 May 11 09:10:10 capella /kernel: de0: address 00:00:f8:01:1d:27 May 11 09:10:10 capella /kernel: de0: enabling 10baseT port May 11 09:10:10 capella /kernel: vga0 rev 0 int a irq 11 on pci0:15 May 11 09:10:10 capella /kernel: Probing for devices on the ISA bus: May 11 09:10:10 capella /kernel: sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard May 11 09:10:10 capella /kernel: sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> May 11 09:10:10 capella /kernel: sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa May 11 09:10:10 capella /kernel: sio0: type 16550A May 11 09:10:10 capella /kernel: sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa May 11 09:10:10 capella /kernel: sio1: type 16550A May 11 09:10:10 capella /kernel: fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa May 11 09:10:10 capella /kernel: fdc0: NEC 72065B May 11 09:10:10 capella /kernel: fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in May 11 09:10:10 capella /kernel: npx0 on motherboard May 11 09:10:10 capella /kernel: npx0: INT 16 interface May 11 09:10:10 capella /kernel: gus0 at 0x220 irq 11 drq 1 flags 0x3 on isa May 11 09:10:10 capella /kernel: gus0: May 11 09:10:10 capella /kernel: WARNING: / was not properly dismounted. Nick Grayphics http://www.grayphics.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 11 15:50:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA16824 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 11 May 1997 15:50:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from panix.com (panix.com [198.7.0.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA16819 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 15:50:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jbarrm@localhost) by panix.com (8.8.5/8.7/PanixU1.3) with SMTP id SAA00225 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 18:50:34 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 18:50:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Barry Masterson To: FreeBSD-questions Subject: Re: xdoom: can't save game. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'll answer my own question. Should have known better: chmod 4755 /usr/local/bin/doom chmod 4755 /usr/local/libxec/doom/xdoom I can now save the game. It may not be the best way, but it now works. Games are saved in the libexec/doom directory. I suppose /var/games would be better for those *.dsg files. Barry Masterson jbarrm@panix.com >--->--->--->--->---> FreeBSD 2.2.1-R <---<---<---<---<---< On Sun, 11 May 1997, Barry Masterson wrote: > I installed xdoom, and it runs fine except that I can't save the game. > > The 'save' menu pops up, I choose an empty slot, fill it in, I even > get the "game saved" prompt in the upper left of the screen. Except > the game is not saved. Going back to 'save' or 'load game' brings > up all empty slots. > > Those doomsav?.dsg files are nowhere. > > I know this feature worked in earlier versions of xdoom; before it > became an offical port. This was when I had it all installed on my home > directory, when I was running 2.1.5. > > Has anyone else experienced this? How can it be fixed? > > Thanks, > > Barry Masterson > jbarrm@panix.com > > >--->--->--->--->---> > FreeBSD 2.2.1-R > <---<---<---<---<---< > From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 11 15:54:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA16937 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 11 May 1997 15:54:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thelonious.spidome.net (thelonious.spidome.net [205.153.247.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA16932 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 15:54:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from daniel@localhost) by thelonious.spidome.net (8.8.3/8.8.3) id WAA20808; Sun, 11 May 1997 22:52:17 GMT Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 22:52:17 GMT Message-Id: <199705112252.WAA20808@thelonious.spidome.net> From: Daniel Odom MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Jeremy & Beth Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: vs. Linux In-Reply-To: <337520D5.3F67@frontiernet.net> References: <337520D5.3F67@frontiernet.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Linux and FreeBSD are both BSD 4.4 derivatives. (in other words, neither one is sysV). You might look at Solaris 386 -- http://www.sun.com -- which is SysV. Jeremy & Beth writes: > I'm currently a CS student and we've been using the Sun System V OS. My > quick question is - what would be the closest match to System V, > Slackware Linux or FreeBSD? Is there a difference in the applications? > or is it just a matter of the kernel? > > Thanks in advance, > jeremy -- Daniel Odom Software engineer daniel@spidome.net voice: 913-625-6124 fax: 913-625-6967 From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 11 16:13:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA17508 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 11 May 1997 16:13:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from narcissus.ml.org (root@brosenga.Pitzer.edu [134.173.120.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA17503 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 16:13:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (ben@localhost) by narcissus.ml.org (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA06888; Sun, 11 May 1997 16:13:23 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 16:13:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Snob Art Genre To: Barry Masterson cc: FreeBSD-questions Subject: Re: xdoom: can't save game. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 11 May 1997, Barry Masterson wrote: > I'll answer my own question. Should have known better: > > chmod 4755 /usr/local/bin/doom > chmod 4755 /usr/local/libxec/doom/xdoom > > I can now save the game. It may not be the best way, but it now > works. Games are saved in the libexec/doom directory. I suppose > /var/games would be better for those *.dsg files. Why not just set the sticky bit on the appropriate directory? > Barry Masterson > jbarrm@panix.com Ben "You have your mind on computers, it seems." From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 11 16:57:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA18961 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 11 May 1997 16:57:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iworks.InterWorks.org (deischen@iworks.interworks.org [128.255.18.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA18953 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 16:57:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from deischen@localhost) by iworks.InterWorks.org (8.7.5/) id SAA02554; Sun, 11 May 1997 18:57:50 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199705112357.SAA02554@iworks.InterWorks.org> Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 18:57:50 -0500 (CDT) From: "Daniel M. Eischen" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, nick@capella.grayphics.com Subject: Re: 2.2.1R + Adaptec 2940UW + Microp 3243WT spontaneous reboot Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I recently upgraded from 2.1.5-R to 2.2.1-R, and added a wide Micropolis > 3243WT. Since the installation, the machine has spontaneously rebooted > itself, and I cannot find anything in the logs to suggest why. I remember > reading something recently about an updated ahc driver to fix this > problem... is this the case? > > For reference, there were a few such reboots before the upgrade, over the > course of 6-8 months. I had suspected then that they might be due to the > SCSI card, but this was before I had heard of others having the same > problem. > > Thank you in advance to anyone who is able to shed some light on this. Use sup, CVSup, or CTM and upgrade to 2.2-stable. There were bugs in the aic7xxx driver at the time 2.2-RELEASE was made. Dan Eischen deischen@iworks.InterWorks.org From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 11 16:58:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA19014 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 11 May 1997 16:58:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vespucci.iquest.com (root@vespucci.iquest.com [199.170.120.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA19009 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 16:58:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pc-1 (usr1-d6.iquest.com [165.113.140.6]) by vespucci.iquest.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA03678 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 18:58:04 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <33765CF1.493A@aol.com> Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 18:57:37 -0500 From: T Norris Reply-To: TNorris@aolcom X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Can't get FreeBSD cdrom to load Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I just purchased the latest walnut creek FreeBSD 2.2.1. After wasting an embarrasing number of hours trying to get this supposedly easier to install version of unix up and running, I am now begging for assistance. I did not have any problem at all with Linux. Had it up and running in only a few hours. Naturally I wanted to try the "better and faster" unix from FreeBSD. Where's the better and faster?? I find no books at my bookstore on FreeBSD installation amongst all the Linux books. I don't think that the folks at FreeBSD should bragg about how easy their product is to install. I would like to install from CD using my Toshiba IDE cdrom drive like I did with Linux. I first boot into FreeBSD from my cdrom. Then I go though the installation procedure, and even get all the IRQ conflicts resolved and my disk drives to be recognized and partitioned the way I want. Then the install program gets to the point where I am actually load the stuff from the cdrom. Then I get the message that I suddenly have no cdrom configured. This is not good. Please don't tell me that I won't be able to use my cd drive with Free($50)BSD. I thought I read somewhere that there is a IDE cd driver. Is there, and how do I find it on the $50 walnut creek cdrom. From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 11 17:02:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA19204 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 11 May 1997 17:02:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from grog@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA19192 for FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 11 May 1997 17:02:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 17:02:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Greg Lehey Message-Id: <199705120002.RAA19192@hub.freebsd.org> To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Errata and addenda in "The Complete FreeBSD" Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The trouble with books is that you can't update them the way you can a web page or any other online documentation. The result is that most leading edge computer books are out of date almost before they are printed. Unfortunately, "The Complete FreeBSD", published by Walnut Creek, is no exception. Since going to press, a number of anomalies have surfaced. The following is a list of modifications which go beyond simple typos. They relate to the first edition, formatted on 19 July 1996 (at the time of writing the only edition that is available). If you have this book, please check this list. I apply these changes to the current source of the book, so if you buy a later edition, they will be in it as well. If you find a bug or a suspected bug in the book, please contact me (grog@freebsd.org). --- Changes: 5 December 1996 --- Page 192: Middle of the page, the indented small print comment. Replace with: If your system doesn't have the directory /usr/src/sys, then the kernel source has not been installed. To install from the CD-ROM, perform the following steps: # mkdir -p /usr/src/sys # ln -s /usr/src/sys /sys # cd / # cat /cdrom/dists/src/sys.* | tar xzvf - The symbolic link /sys for /usr/src/sys is not strictly necessary, but it's a good idea: some software uses it, and otherwise you may end up with two different copies of the sources. --- Changes: 28 November 1996 --- Page 135, second paragraph: replace with In addition, you may need to create the device nodes if they don't already exist. By default, the system contains four virtual terminal devices in the /dev directory. If you use more than this number, you must create them, either with MAKEDEV (see page 162), or with mknod (see page 573). When calculating how many devices you need, note that if you intend to run X11, you need a terminal device without a getty for the X server. For example, if you have enabled /dev/ttyv3, /dev/ttyv4, and /dev/ttyv5, and you also want to run X, you will need a total of 7 virtual terminals (/dev/ttyv0 through /dev/ttyv6). With MAKEDEV, you specify how many virtual terminals you need: # cd /dev # ./MAKEDEV vty7 make 7 vtys Alternatively, you can do this with mknod: # cd /dev # ls -l ttyv0 crw------- 1 root wheel 12, 0 Nov 28 10:25 ttyv0 # mknod ttyv3 c 12 3 # mknod ttyv4 c 12 4 # mknod ttyv5 c 12 5 # mknod ttyv6 c 12 6 In this example, you list the entry for /dev/ttyv0 in order to check the major device number of the virtual terminals (that's the 12, in this example; it may change from one release to another). You need to specify this number to mknod. For more details about major and minor device numbers, see page 160. --- Changes: 20 November 1996 --- Figure 10-4, page 172: The devices in the FreeBSD slice are called /dev/sd1s2a through /dev/sd1s2h, not /dev/sd1s3a through /dev/sd1s3h as shown. Figure 10-6, page 176: The devices in the FreeBSD slice are *still* called /dev/sd1s2a through /dev/sd1s2h, not /dev/sd1s1a through /dev/sd1s1h as shown. (Well, at least the average turned out right :-) The man page section (pages 225 to 766) was sorted by ASCII name of the man page, with the result that the man pages whose names start with upper-case letters come before those whose names start with lower-case letters. Sorry about that. If you're looking for a man page, probably the best place to start is in the Table of Contents on page vi. The man pages are really just excerpts. The total FreeBSD man pages format to some 6,000 pages, far more than I could possibly put in this book. --- Changes: 1 November 1996 --- Major changes: 1. No difference in installation from ATAPI CD-ROM drives. When "The Complete FreeBSD" was written, you still needed a separate installation procedure for installing from ATAPI CD-ROM drives. This is no longer the case. The following modifications to the text come as a result: Page 14, table: Remove references to atapiflp.bat and inst_ide.bat. FreeBSD 2.1.5 no longer has separate boot floppies and installation procedures for ATAPI CD-ROM drives. Page 29: Remove the text "You will also need a different boot disk (/cdrom/floppies/atapi.flp). If you are creating the boot floppy with MS-DOS, you can use the file ATAPIFLP.BAT to create the floppy." The resultant text reads: IDE CD-ROM drives, more properly called ATAPI CD-ROM drives, are a new kind of CD-ROM drive which connect to the same controller as your IDE hard disk. Currently, FreeBSD 2.1.5 support for ATAPI CD-ROM drives is in alpha test. In order to install from an ATAPI CD-ROM, the drive must be jumpered as slave device. The installation may or may not work--please let us know if it doesn't, especially if you can give us some indication about the cause of the trouble. You can also create this boot diskette with the aid of the VIEW program (see Chapter 4, Installing FreeBSD, page 38). Page 35: Remove the points referring to atapi.flp. The text for the third box from the bottom of the page should read: If the direct boot doesn't work, you will need to make a boot floppy, which may be either a 3 1/2" or a 5 1/4" diskette. Create a boot floppy by copying the image /cdrom/boot.flp to diskette. Refer to Chapter 2, Installing FreeBSD, page 39. If you have an IDE (ATAPI) CD-ROM drive, see also the section on this kind of drive in Chapter 2, Installation Concepts, page 29. Page 43, after first example: remove references to ATAPI. The resultant text should read: Don't try this from MS Windows--the installation will fail with the message not enough memory. The boot will progress in the same way as if you had booted from floppy. The advantage of starting VIEW is that you get more documentation: ultimately VIEW will start INSTALL to boot the system. INSTALL doesn't always work. It depends on what drivers or TSRs are in your system. There's no reason to try changing your MS-DOS configuration to get it to work: it's a lot easier just to boot from floppy (see page 38 for further information). 2. Changes to section on installing a second disk. Page 170: The bottom paragraph should read: When the message Three seconds until format begins... appears, you can still change your mind by hitting CTRL-C before the message Formatting... appears. After that, you can't stop the format: most disks can perform a format by themselves, so scsiformat just issues the command to format the disk. Since there is no SCSI bus activity, the disk activity lamp will also not light up, and since the scsiformat program will just be waiting and not using any CPU time, you could easily get the impression the nothing is going on. The disk format can take a long time--depending on the disk, up to 90 minutes. Page 173, after table 10-5: Add the text If you're unlucky, fdisk will give you a completely different idea of the disk geometry from what scsiformat did. Possibly you can decide by examination which program is wrong, or maybe you can look at the dmesg output for a tie-breaker. In all cases I have seen, it has been fdisk that returned the incorrect information, and only when the disk did not have a valid partition table. For example, this happened with a disk formatted for BSD/OS: # scsiformat sd1 MICROP 2112-15MQ1094802 HQ48 Mode data length: 35 Medium type: 0 Device Specific Parameter: 0 Block descriptor length: 8 Density code: 0 Number of blocks: 2051615 Reserved: 0 Block length: 512 PS: 1 Reserved: 0 Page code: 4 Page length: 22 Number of Cylinders: 1760 Number of Heads: 15 Starting Cylinder-Write Precompensation: 0 Starting Cylinder-Reduced Write Current: 0 Drive Step Rate: 0 Landing Zone Cylinder: 0 Reserved: 0 RPL: 0 Rotational Offset: 0 Reserved: 0 Medium Rotation Rate: 5400 Reserved: 0 Reserved: 0 # fdisk sd1 ******* Working on device /dev/rsd1 ******* parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are: cylinders=160 heads=256 sectors/track=50 (12800 blks/cyl) Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1 parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are: cylinders=160 heads=256 sectors/track=50 (12800 blks/cyl) Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1 Information from DOS bootblock is: The data for partition 0 is: sysid 255,(BBT (Bad Blocks Table)) start 1023744, size 2108293151 (1029440 Meg), flag 0 beg: cyl 768/ sector 15/ head 147; end: cyl 0/ sector 0/ head 255 The data for partition 1 is: sysid 101,(Novell Netware 3.xx) start 1646292846, size 1814062195 (885772 Meg), flag 0 beg: cyl 356/ sector 50/ head 0; end: cyl 256/ sector 50/ head 114 The data for partition 2 is: sysid 0,(unused) start 0, size 0 (0 Meg), flag 61 beg: cyl 364/ sector 37/ head 98; end: cyl 0/ sector 0/ head 0 The data for partition 3 is: Looking at the output from dmesg, we see: (aha0:1:0): "MICROP 2112-15MQ1094802 HQ48" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd1(aha0:1:0): Direct-Access 1001MB (2051615 512 byte sectors) sd1(aha0:1:0): with 1760 cyls, 15 heads, and an average 77 sectors/track In this case, then, you should use the parameters 1760 cylinders, 15 heads, and 77 sectors per track. What's less obvious here is the number of cylinders: fdisk doesn't have an opinion, and scsiformat and dmesg decided it has 2,051,615 sectors. Unfortunately, if you calculate the number according to the formula cylinders x heads x sectors, you'll come up with a different result: in this case 1760 x 15 x 77 = 2,032,800. How come? The disks report the total number of sectors, including spare tracks and such, but you can't use them all. The 2,032,800 is the correct number, and if you try to specify 2,051,615 to disklabel, it will spit out lots of messages about partitions which go beyond the end of the disk. Page 173, middle of page. Change the text after the "no magic" message to: The message no magic doesn't mean that fdisk is out of purple smoke. It refers to the fact that it didn't find the so-called magic number, which identifies the partition table. Since we don't have a partition table yet, this message isn't surprising. It's also completely harmless. Page 173, last example. Remove the first 22 lines, from ******* Working on device /dev/rsd1 ******* to, but not including the next occurrence of this line. Page 177, bulleted list: add the bullet * The total number of sectors in the partition. Calculate the number from the the formula cylinders x heads x sectors, even if you are using the whole disk: the output from dmesg or scsiformat is not correct here. Page 178, middle of page: after # disklabel -w -r /dev/sd1c cdc94161 insert When you do this, expect a kernel message (in high-intensity display) saying ``Cannot find disk label''. Since there isn't any label, it can't be found. This is another harmless chicken and egg problem. Page 182: In the section "Creating the file systems", add the first line to the example: # newfs /dev/rsd1h Further down the page, the last example should also read # newfs /dev/rsd1h 3. Other changes Page 41, after the heading "Installing from an MS-DOS partition". Add the text: It's also possible to install from a primary MS-DOS partition on the first disk. At the moment, it's not possible to install from extended partitions. Page 136, bottom: Add the text If you are changing the root password, be careful: it's easy enough to lock yourself out of the system if you mess things up, which could happen if, for example, you mistyped the password twice in the same way (don't laugh, it happens). If you're running X, open another window and use su to become root. If you're running in character mode, select another virtual terminal and log in as root there. Only when you're sure you can still access root should you log out. Page 152, just before the heading "The online manual". Add: Yes, you really need to run latex three times in order to build the cross-references. Page 199, the end of the multipage table is garbled. It should read: ze0 214 IBM/National Semiconductor PCMCIA ethernet controller zp0 214 3Com PCMCIA Etherlink III Page 205: Change the section titled "lpt0" to: lpt0 through lpt2 are the three printer ports you could conceivably have. Most people don't have three printers: you can comment out the definitions of the printers which you don't have. Page 208, bottom of page: swap the italicized headings "Adaptec 274X controller" and "Adaptec 1274X controller" Many thanks to Paul DuBois and Jerry Dunham for finding many of these bugs. From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 11 17:02:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA19203 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 11 May 1997 17:02:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from grog@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA19190 for FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 11 May 1997 17:02:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 17:02:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Greg Lehey Message-Id: <199705120002.RAA19190@hub.freebsd.org> To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: How to get best results from FreeBSD-questions Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk How to get the best results from FreeBSD questions. =================================================== Last update 17 October 1996. This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD questions mailing list. If you got it in answer to a message you sent, it means that the sender thinks that at least one of the following things was wrong with your message: - You left out a subject line, or the subject line was not appropriate. - You formatted it in such a way that it was difficult to read. - You asked more than one unrelated question in one message. - You sent out a message with an incorrect date, time or time zone. - You sent out the same message more than once. - You sent an 'unsubscribe' message to FreeBSD-questions. If you have done any of these things, there is a good chance that you will get more than one copy of this message from different people. Read on, and your next message will be more successful. ===================================================================== Contents: I: Introduction II: How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions III: How to submit a question to FreeBSD-questions IV: How to answer a question to FreeBSD-questions I: Introduction =============== This is a regular posting aimed to help both those seeking advice from FreeBSD-questions (the "newcomers"), and also those who answer the questions (the "hackers"). Note that the term "hacker" has nothing to do with break- ing into other people's computers. The correct term for the latter activity is "cracker", but the popular press hasn't found out yet. The FreeBSD hackers disapprove strongly of cracking security, and have nothing to do with it. In the past, there has been some friction which stems from the different viewpoints of the two groups. The newcomers accused the hackers of being arrogant, stuck-up, and unhelpful, while the hackers accused the newcomers of being stupid, unable to read plain English, and expecting everything to be handed to them on a silver platter. Of course, there's an element of truth in both these claims, but for the most part these viewpoints come from a sense of frustration. In this document, I'd like to do something to relieve this frustration and help everybody get better results from FreeBSD-questions. In the following section, I recommend how to submit a question; after that, we'll look at how to answer one. II: How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions ============================================== When you subscribed to FreeBSD-questions, you got a welcome message from Majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG. In this message, amongst other things, it told you how to unsubscribe. Here's a typical message: Welcome to the freebsd-questions mailing list! If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, you can send mail to "Majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG" with the following command in the body of your email message: unsubscribe freebsd-questions Greg Lehey Here's the general information for the list you've subscribed to, in case you don't already have it: FREEBSD-QUESTIONS User questions This is the mailing list for questions about FreeBSD. You should not send "how to" questions to the technical lists unless you consider the question to be pretty technical. Normally, unsubscribing is even simpler than the message suggests: you don't need to specify your mail ID unless it is different from the one which you specified when you subscribed. If Majordomo replies and tells you (incorrectly) that you're not on the list, this may mean that you have changed your mail ID since you subscribed. In this case, you do need to tell Majordomo the correct name, and that's when the welcome message from Majordomo comes in handy. If you have not kept it, all is not lost. Send a message to majordomo asking for the list of the members of the group. In the text of the message, write: who freebsd-questions The names returned in the list are not all individual mail IDs: you'll see a number of names like: freebsd-questions-list@datatec.com freebsd-questions-redist@news.uni-stuttgart.de incoming-freebsd-questions@cisco.com freebsd-questions@clinet.fi freebsd-questions@mcs.anl.gov If you're on one of these lists, you'll have to figure out which one it is and get your name taken off that one. If you're not sure which one it might be, check the headers of the messages you receive from freebsd-questions: maybe there's a clue there. IF ALL ELSE FAILS ----------------- If you've done all this, and you still can't figure out what's going on, send a message to Postmaster@FreeBSD.ORG, and he will sort things out for you. DON'T send a message to FreeBSD-questions: they can't help you. III: How to submit a question ============================== When submitting a question to FreeBSD-questions, consider the following points: 1. Remember that nobody gets paid for answering a FreeBSD question. They do it of their own free will. You can influence this free will positively by submitting a well-formulated question supplying as much relevant information as possible. You can influence this free will negatively by submitting an incomplete, illegible, or rude question. It's perfectly possible to send a message to FreeBSD-questions and not get an answer. In the rest of this document, we'll look at how to get the most out of your question to FreeBSD-questions. 2. Not everybody who answers FreeBSD questions reads every message: they look at the subject line and decide whether it interests them. Clearly, it's in your interest to specify a subject. "FreeBSD problem" or "Help" aren't enough. If you provide no subject at all, many people won't bother reading it. If your subject isn't specific enough, the people who can answer it may not read it. 3. Format your message so that it is legible, and PLEASE DON'T SHOUT!!!!!. We appreciate that a lot of people don't speak English as their first language, and we try to make allowances for that, but it's really painful to try to read a message written full of typos or without any line breaks. A lot of badly formatted messages come from bad mailers. The mailers in the Microsoft world are frequent offenders. If at all possible, use a UNIX mailer. If you must use a mailer under Microsoft environments, make sure it is set up correctly. Try not to use MIME: a lot of people use mailers which don't get on very well with MIME. 4. Make sure your time and time zone are set correctly. This may seem a little silly, since your message still gets there, but many of the people you are trying to reach get several hundred messages a day. They frequently sort the incoming messages by subject and by date, and if your message doesn't come before the first answer, they may assume they missed it and not bother to look. 5. Don't include unrelated questions in the same message. Firstly, a long message tends to scare people off, and secondly, it's more difficult to get all the people who can answer all the questions to read the message. 6. Specify as much information as possible. This is a difficult area, and we need to expand on what information you need to submit, but here's a start: - If you get error messages, don't say "I get error messages", say (for example) "I get the error message 'No route to host'". - If your system panics, don't say "My system panicked", say (for example) "my system panicked with the message 'free vnode isn't'". - If you have difficulty installing FreeBSD, please tell us what hardware you have. In particular, it's important to know the IRQs and I/O addresses of the boards installed in your machine. 7. If you do all this, and you still don't get an answer, there could be other reasons. For example, the problem is so complicated that nobody knows the answer, or the person who does know the answer was offline. If you don't get an answer after, say, a week, it might help to re-send the message. If you don't get an answer to your second message, though, you're probably not going to get one from this forum. Resending the same message again and again will only make you unpopular. To summarize, let's assume you know the answer to the following question. You choose which of these two questions you would be more prepared to answer: Message 1: Subject: (none) I just can't get hits damn silly FereBSD system to workd, and Im really good at this tsuff, but I have never seen anythign sho difficult to install, it jst wont work whatever I try so why don't y9ou guys tell me what I doing wrong. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message 2: Subject: Problems installing FreeBSD I've just got the FreeBSD 2.1.5 CD-ROM from Walnut Creek, and I'm having a lot of difficulty installing it. I have a 66 MHz 486 with 16 MB of memory and an Adaptec 1540A SCSI board, a 1.2GB Quantum Fireball disk and a Toshiba 3501XA CD-ROM drive. The installation works just fine, but when I try to reboot the system, I get the message "Missing Operating System". ---------------------------------------------------------------------- IV: How to answer a question ============================ Before you answer a question to FreeBSD-questions, consider: 1. A lot of the points on submitting questions also apply to answering questions. Read them. 2. Has somebody already answered the question? The easiest way to check this is to sort your incoming mail by subject: then (hopefully) you'll see the question followed by any answers, all together. If somebody has already answered it, it doesn't automatically mean that you shouldn't send another answer. But it makes sense to read all the other answers first. 3. Do you have something to contribute beyond what has already been said? In general, "Yeah, me too" answers don't help much, although there are exceptions, like when somebody is describing a problem he's having, and he doesn't know whether it's his fault or whether there's something wrong with the hardware or software. If you do send a "me too" answer, you should also include any further relevant information. 4. Are you sure your answer is correct? If not, wait a day or so. If nobody else comes up with a better answer, you can still reply and say, for example, "I don't know if this is correct, but since nobody else has replied, why don't you try replacing your ATAPI CD-ROM with a frog?". 5. Don't do a group reply; lots of people send messages with hundreds of CCs. Unless there's a good reason to do otherwise, just reply to the person and copy FreeBSD-questions. 6. Trim the original message to the minimum, and use some technique to identify which text came from the original message, and which text you add. I personally find that prepending "> " to the original message works best. Leaving white space after the ">" and leave empty lines between your text and the original text both make the result more readable. Most mailers change the subject line on a reply by prepending a text such as "Re: ". If your mailer doesn't do it automatically, you should do it manually. If the submitter didn't abide by format conventions (lines too long, inappropriate subject line), *please* fix it. In the case of an incorrect subject line (such as "HELP!!??"), change the subject line to (say) "Re: Difficulties with sync PPP (was: HELP!!??)". That way other people trying to follow the thread will have less difficulty following it. In such cases, it's appropriate to say what you did and why you did it, but try not to be rude. If you find you can't answer without being rude, don't answer. If you just want to reply to a message because of its bad format, just reply to the submitter, not to the list. You can just send him this message in reply, if you like. From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 11 17:51:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA20656 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 11 May 1997 17:51:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sand.sentex.ca (sand.sentex.ca [206.222.77.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA20650 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 17:51:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gravel (gravel.sentex.ca [205.211.165.210]) by sand.sentex.ca (8.8.5/8.8.3) with SMTP id UAA00293 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 20:55:15 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970511205459.025b5320@sentex.net> X-Sender: mdtancsa@sentex.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 20:54:59 -0400 To: questions@freebsd.org From: Mike Tancsa Subject: inetd: login_getclass: unknown class 'root' Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk After doing a make world last night, I am getting this error every time I login... I am using the following cvsup file *default tag=RELENG_2_2 *default host=cvsup.freebsd.org *default prefix=/usr *default base=/usr *default release=cvs delete use-rel-suffix src-all src-eBones src-secure Does this have to do with the eBones ? ---Mike ********************************************************************** Mike Tancsa (mike@sentex.net) * To do is to be -- Nietzsche Sentex Communications Corp, * To be is to do -- Sartre Cambridge, Ontario * Do be do be do -- Sinatra (http://www.sentex.net/~mdtancsa) * From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 11 18:58:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA22361 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 11 May 1997 18:58:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.nih.gov (poca58.capecod.net [205.230.13.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA22356 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 18:58:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from crtb@localhost) by localhost.nih.gov (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA15051 for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 11 May 1997 21:58:39 -0400 Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 21:58:39 -0400 From: Chuck Message-Id: <199705120158.VAA15051@localhost.nih.gov> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: ip-down can't route delete Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk When my ppp link goes down (I absentmindedly don't use it for 5 min. and my ISP kills it), /etc/ppp/ip-down is run. My ip-down has a route delete in it, because for some reason pppd doesn't do a good job of it, and leaves old IP addresses in the table. But the route delete fails with permission denied, since it's not running root. On my FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE, pppd is setuid root, and appropriately so. Yet it can't run route! My guess is that route wants a real root UID, not just an effective root. But sudo route delete works fine! Is that any different? Please e-mail.. I don't subscribe to questions. TIA. Chuck Bacon -- crtb@capecod.net ABHOR SECRECY -- DEFEND PRIVACY From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 11 19:34:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA23743 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 11 May 1997 19:34:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spoon.beta.com ([199.165.180.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA23738 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 19:33:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spoon.beta.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spoon.beta.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA27767 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 22:40:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199705120240.WAA27767@spoon.beta.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Need help creating mixed type CDs... Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 22:40:06 -0400 From: "Brian J. McGovern" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I've been playing with wormcontrol for just under a year now, creating data-only CDs. Recently, I've been approached by a friend who'd like to put together a CD of their MIDI file work - placing the MIDI files on the first (Data) track of the CD, and then audio tracks of the music itself as its been played by the synths... I can currently get the audio in an 11KHz stereo WAV file (which is what CD is supposed to be sample wise, yes?). The data track I can make with mkisofs. If someone can give me the hint on the proceedure, or a better, or a "right" way to do it, I'd greatly appreciate it. The wormcontrol documents seem to hint that you can do it, but it doesn't give as clear-cut an example as a data CD. Thanks in advance. -Brian From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 11 20:40:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA26016 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 11 May 1997 20:40:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hera.ecs.csus.edu (hera.ecs.csus.edu [130.86.71.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA26011 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 20:40:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gaia.ecs.csus.edu (gaia.ecs.csus.edu [130.86.71.9]) by hera.ecs.csus.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA17892; Sun, 11 May 1997 20:40:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from sithoa@localhost) by gaia.ecs.csus.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA13480; Sun, 11 May 1997 20:40:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 20:40:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Allen Sitho To: Steve Howe cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: What is "invalid primary partition... magic"? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 11 May 1997, Steve Howe wrote: > On Sun, 11 May 1997, Allen Sitho wrote: > > a magic number exists in the partitions table so that > the block on the hard drive may be verified to be > a partition table ... > > it's serious if it is causing you problems. > Hello, I get this message on the first boot drive of my pc, and I have linux on a physical second drive. I experience no problem with the first drive but when I boot linux, Iget the boot sector might be corrupted message and linuz hangs. Could they be related, or is the no magic problem should exist only onthe first drive? Do I need to reinstall to fix this problem? ooooo ooooo $$$$$$$$o o$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$o$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$ $$$$$ $$$$ Allen Sitho $$$$ "$$$$ $$$$" "$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$" ""$$$$$$$$$$$"" ""$$$$$"" "$" From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 11 20:40:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA26065 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 11 May 1997 20:40:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sand.sentex.ca (sand.sentex.ca [206.222.77.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA26056 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 20:40:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gravel (gravel.sentex.ca [205.211.165.210]) by sand.sentex.ca (8.8.5/8.8.3) with SMTP id XAA09598; Sun, 11 May 1997 23:45:10 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970511234454.00ab2880@sentex.net> X-Sender: mdtancsa@sentex.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 23:44:54 -0400 To: "Kenneth R. Westerback" From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: 2.2-STABLE src-2.2.0274 "login_getclass: unknown class 'root'" Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.1.32.19970511231241.00a9ac20@sentex.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 11:29 PM 5/11/97 -0400, Kenneth R. Westerback wrote: >A little investigation and ... > >Somewhere along the way a new file has been created that should be in the >/etc directory: login.conf. This file contains the stuff that >login_getclass() and friends are looking for. > >I just copied /usr/src/etc/login.conf as /etc/login.conf and the message >no longer appears. > >Of course there seems to be a lot of stuff in login.conf that should be >modified by anybody not just running a workstation setup like me. Excellent! Thanks for the tip.. I will cc this to questions to answer my questio there! ---Mike ********************************************************************** Mike Tancsa (mike@sentex.net) * To do is to be -- Nietzsche Sentex Communications Corp, * To be is to do -- Sartre Cambridge, Ontario * Do be do be do -- Sinatra (http://www.sentex.net/~mdtancsa) * From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 11 21:29:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA27913 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 11 May 1997 21:29:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pluto.plutotech.com (root@pluto100.plutotech.com [206.168.67.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA27892; Sun, 11 May 1997 21:29:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from narnia.plutotech.com (narnia.plutotech.com [206.168.67.130]) by pluto.plutotech.com (8.8.5/8.8.3) with ESMTP id WAA17659; Sun, 11 May 1997 22:29:01 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199705120429.WAA17659@pluto.plutotech.com> To: Nick Esborn cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2.2.1R + Adaptec 2940UW + Microp 3243WT spontaneous reboot In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 11 May 1997 15:33:19 PDT." Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 23:26:57 -0600 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >I recently upgraded from 2.1.5-R to 2.2.1-R, and added a wide Micropolis >3243WT. Since the installation, the machine has spontaneously rebooted >itself, and I cannot find anything in the logs to suggest why. I remember >reading something recently about an updated ahc driver to fix this >problem... is this the case? You should be running 2.2-stable on any machine that you think is important. 2.2-stable can be obtained via CVSup by pulling the RELENG_2_2 branch. Details on using CVSup can be found in the FreeBSD handbook at www.FreeBSD.org. There were several bug fixes to the aic7xxx driver after 2.2.1R and you will get all of them if you upgrade your sources to 2.2-stable and rebuild the world. (Just rebuilding the kernel may work, but there may be some other changes in 2.2-stable that will not make this work). -- Justin T. Gibbs =========================================== FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations =========================================== From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 11 21:34:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA28267 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 11 May 1997 21:34:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from theta.pair.com (theta.pair.com [207.86.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA28262 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 21:34:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from adam.netsonic.com (gb_noc36.sparknet.net [207.250.20.36]) by theta.pair.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id AAA26991 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 00:30:30 -0400 (EDT) X-Envelope-To: Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970511233943.00758174@mail.netsonic.com> X-Sender: adam@mail.netsonic.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 23:39:45 -0500 To: questions@freebsd.org From: "Adam L. Simpson" Subject: POP3 Config - qpopper2.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello: We are setting up qpopper 2.3 and having a couple of problems with the config of it. checking the mail when I use adam2@207.250.84.2 works...but no apollo.netsonic.com, mail.netsonic.com or netsonic.com. meaning I want to be able to check the mail at mail.netsonic.com It also comes up with an error, unable to open temporary mail drop /var/mail/.adam.pop other than that all the other tests worked.. I assume it is a permission thing or somthing with the temp file? I appreciate the help! Adam L. Simpson From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 11 21:41:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA28496 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 11 May 1997 21:41:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from theta.pair.com (theta.pair.com [207.86.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA28484 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 21:41:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from adam.netsonic.com (gb_noc36.sparknet.net [207.250.20.36]) by theta.pair.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id AAA27863 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 00:37:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Envelope-To: Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970511234621.00758174@mail.netsonic.com> X-Sender: adam@mail.netsonic.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 23:46:24 -0500 To: questions@freebsd.org From: "Adam L. Simpson" Subject: frontpage server extensions docs Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Does any one have a better resource for the installation of the Front page server extensions to the web server than the the microsoft site? Thanks in advance. Adam From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 11 21:45:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA28689 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 11 May 1997 21:45:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tulpi.interconnect.com.au (root@tulpi.interconnect.com.au [192.189.54.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA28684 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 21:45:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ahill@localhost) by tulpi.interconnect.com.au id OAA05324 (8.8.5/IDA-1.6); Mon, 12 May 1997 14:45:06 +1000 (EST) Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 14:45:05 +1000 (EST) From: Anthony Hill To: Tim Oneil cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: fvwm2 In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19970508085141.0098a2b0@visigenic.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Use the fvwm2rc.system file that fvwm2 uses by default - just copy it to your home dir, and rename it to .fvwm2rc (I think its in /usr/X11/lib/X11R6/fvwm2 or something like that) Anthony Hill ahill@connect.com.au On Thu, 8 May 1997, Tim Oneil wrote: > Would someone mind sending me the example > .fvwm2rc config file? It doesn't appear to > have been installed with the window manager, > even a recursive search of my drive won't > reveal it, and without one example file I'm > not getting very far in customizing it. > fBSD 2.2.1 as a whole however is rocking! Thanks > to the guys who answered my question about the > fonts for xterm too. > > -Tim > > From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 11 22:07:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA29326 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 11 May 1997 22:07:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from house.key.net.au (root@house.key.net.au [203.35.4.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA29321 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 22:07:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (andrew@localhost) by house.key.net.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA09173; Mon, 12 May 1997 15:07:16 +1000 (EST) Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 15:07:16 +1000 (EST) From: Andrew To: ZxOxRxRxO@aol.com cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Is there a FreeBSD for Mac OS? In-Reply-To: <970510084433_-1834991848@emout02.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: X-Wibble: WonK MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 10 May 1997 ZxOxRxRxO@aol.com wrote: > Is there a freeBSD for mac os? I have heard that there was one. > and is this for 68k or PPC? Nope...you need (if your looking for Free UNIXes for MAc hardware): http://www.mklinux.apple.com (powerPC) or http://www.openbsd.org (PowerPC & 68K) or http://www.netbsd.org (68K) I'd go for one of the BSDs (probably OpenBSD) if I were you...(just personal preference) Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 11 22:21:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA29754 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 11 May 1997 22:21:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Radford.i-Plus.net (root@Radford.i-Plus.net [206.99.237.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA29746 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 22:21:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from abyss (pitlord@cOnFuSeD.i-Plus.net [206.99.237.42]) by Radford.i-Plus.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA04161; Mon, 12 May 1997 01:19:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199705120519.BAA04161@Radford.i-Plus.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.0544.0 From: "Troy Settle" To: , "Paul Missman" Subject: Re: Freebsd - It works, thanks. Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 13:21:11 -0400 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE Engine V4.71.0544.0 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >1. I exited the installation process before it copied the binaries. oops >2. I hadn't marked the freebsd partition as bootable. Perhaps instructions >under novice installation need to be added here, with reassurance that this >won't cause Win95 to become non-bootable. Actually, I've never had to mess with the boot flag on any partition. The boot manager that comes with FreeBSD replaces the MBR and takes care of all that. (of course, I use system commander, and don't even have to mess with the boot manager any more). >3. Other than that, installation was pretty easy (even though I had to >upload it all at 14.4k). Ouch... I've had to do that a time or two. Been on a T1 for the last few months :) >Thanks to everyone, >Paul Missman You're welcome, though I don't think I've given any assistance to you specifically :) >P.S. One question - does anyone know when ppp for COM4 might be added? >Else, I will have to disable my COM1 and move my modem. When you get the boot: prompt, type in -c for a configuration menu, and adjust the drivers there. In the GENERIC kernel, you can have up to 4 serial devices, configured to use a wide variety of IO addresses and IRQs. Just set one of them for com4 (actually, com4 is already configured, just need to turn it on and check the IRQ -- I think it's set to IRQ2), and be on your way. -- Troy Settle Network Administrator, iPlus Internet Services http://www.i-Plus.net From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 11 22:23:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA29860 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 11 May 1997 22:23:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Radford.i-Plus.net (root@Radford.i-Plus.net [206.99.237.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA29852 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 22:23:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from abyss (pitlord@cOnFuSeD.i-Plus.net [206.99.237.42]) by Radford.i-Plus.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA04218; Mon, 12 May 1997 01:21:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199705120521.BAA04218@Radford.i-Plus.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.0544.0 From: "Troy Settle" To: , "Adam L. Simpson" Subject: Re: frontpage server extensions docs Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 13:23:26 -0400 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE Engine V4.71.0544.0 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Does any one have a better resource for the installation of the Front page >server extensions to the web server than the the microsoft site? http://www.rtr.com >Thanks in advance. You're welcome Installing the frontpage extentions is a bitch and a half, and once it's done, it's a nightmare you can't wait to forget. (I'd give you some pointers, but I've had 2 months to forget :) -- Troy Settle Network Administrator, iPlus Internet Services http://www.i-Plus.net From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 11 22:30:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA00253 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 11 May 1997 22:30:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Radford.i-Plus.net (root@Radford.i-Plus.net [206.99.237.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA00200 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 22:29:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from abyss (pitlord@cOnFuSeD.i-Plus.net [206.99.237.42]) by Radford.i-Plus.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA04270; Mon, 12 May 1997 01:27:30 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199705120527.BAA04270@Radford.i-Plus.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.0544.0 From: "Troy Settle" To: "freebsd-questions" , "Steve Howe" Subject: Re: hard links Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 13:29:34 -0400 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE Engine V4.71.0544.0 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > >is there any way to determine what files are >hard links to s specific file? it's obvious >for softlinks using "ls", but what about >hard links? >--------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Sure, take a look at this for a short example. These two files are hard linked with 4 other files. How do I know? look at the 2nd column. See the 6? Tells me that there's 6 node thingies in use for that one file. (I forget exactly what those things are called. nevertheless, there's 6 directory entries for that one file.) -r-xr-x--- 6 root bin 36864 Feb 5 08:00 /usr/bin/chpass -r-xr-x--- 6 root bin 36864 Feb 5 08:00 /usr/bin/chsh laters, -- Troy Settle Network Administrator, iPlus Internet Services http://www.i-Plus.net From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 11 22:40:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA00619 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 11 May 1997 22:40:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tree.Stanford.EDU (tree.Stanford.EDU [36.83.0.139]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA00591 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 22:40:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jkoum@localhost) by tree.Stanford.EDU (8.8.5/8.8.3) id WAA03697; Sun, 11 May 1997 22:40:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 22:40:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Jan Koum To: Tim Oneil cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: fvwm2 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk You can also look at http://www.cobaltgroup.com/~roland/fvwm/fvwm.html for more info on how to configure and customize your fvwm (don't think 2.0 is there yet, but the page has links to other resources on the web). -- yan On Mon, 12 May 1997, Anthony Hill wrote: > Use the fvwm2rc.system file that fvwm2 uses by default - just copy it to > your home dir, and rename it to .fvwm2rc > > (I think its in /usr/X11/lib/X11R6/fvwm2 or something like that) > > > Anthony Hill > ahill@connect.com.au > > On Thu, 8 May 1997, Tim Oneil wrote: > > > Would someone mind sending me the example > > .fvwm2rc config file? It doesn't appear to > > have been installed with the window manager, > > even a recursive search of my drive won't > > reveal it, and without one example file I'm > > not getting very far in customizing it. > > fBSD 2.2.1 as a whole however is rocking! Thanks > > to the guys who answered my question about the > > fonts for xterm too. > > > > -Tim > > > > > From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 11 23:45:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA02790 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 11 May 1997 23:45:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from seine.cs.umd.edu (seine.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.59]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA02785 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 23:45:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by seine.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id CAA22334; Mon, 12 May 1997 02:45:48 -0400 (EDT) From: georgeap@cs.umd.edu (Geo. Apostolopoulos) Message-Id: <199705120645.CAA22334@seine.cs.umd.edu> Subject: Dell Latitude XPi CD and Xfree86 3.2 ? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 02:45:48 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, is there anybody running successfuly Xfree86 3.2 and 2.2.1 on a Dell Latitude XPi CD ? As soon as I start X I loose the keyboard... while the mouse works fine all the time. The Keyboard is inactive (no events generated) even after exiting X. If anybody out there has X running on the Dell, I'd love to have a look at your /etc/XF86Config file :) thanks a lot, George From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 12 00:11:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA03869 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 12 May 1997 00:11:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from falcon.pacit.tas.gov.au (falcon.pacit.tas.gov.au [147.109.1.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA03858 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 00:11:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from carey.pacit.tas.gov.au (carey.pacit.tas.gov.AU [147.109.2.69]) by falcon.pacit.tas.gov.au (8.8.4/8.8.2) with SMTP id RAA18114 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 17:10:41 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970512170945.007640f0@falcon.pacit.tas.gov.au> X-Sender: cpn@falcon.pacit.tas.gov.au X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 17:09:46 +1000 To: questions@freebsd.org From: Carey Nairn Subject: Western Digital Enterprise SCSC drive problems Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk greetings all, I have a small problem with som WD SCSI drives and was wondering if there are any known problems with them or any advice you could give me. I have 3 of these drives connected to an Adaptec 2940AU controller and trying to install 2.2.1R. During the boot sequence the SCSI BIOS gets the drives OK but when the FreeBSD probes start I get the following errors... ahc0 rev 1 int a irq 10 on pci0:16 ahc0: aic7860 Single channel, SCSI Id-7, 3 SCBs ahc0 board is not responding (ahc0:0:0): SCB 0x0 - timedout in datain phase, SCSISIGI==0x46 SEQADDR==0x12c (ahc0:0:0): abort message in message buffer ahc0 board is not responding (ahc0:0:0): SCB 0x2 - timedout while recovery in progress (ahc0:0:0): "unknown unknown ????" type 13 fixed SCSI 0 uk0 unknown device .... Do I have 3 dodgy drives ?? any clues, help or otherwise would be appreciated. Thanks in advance cheers, Carey Nairn From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 12 01:14:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA05820 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 12 May 1997 01:14:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.barcode.co.il (gatekeeper.barcode.co.il [192.116.93.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA05812 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 01:13:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nadav@localhost) by gatekeeper.barcode.co.il (8.8.5/8.6.12) id LAA26306; Mon, 12 May 1997 11:11:34 +0300 (IDT) Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 11:11:34 +0300 (IDT) From: Nadav Eiron To: TNorris@aolcom cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Can't get FreeBSD cdrom to load In-Reply-To: <33765CF1.493A@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 11 May 1997, T Norris wrote: > I just purchased the latest walnut creek FreeBSD 2.2.1. After wasting > an embarrasing number of hours trying to get this supposedly easier to > install version of unix up and running, I am now begging for assistance. > > I did not have any problem at all with Linux. Had it up and running in > only a few hours. Naturally I wanted to try the "better and faster" > unix from FreeBSD. Where's the better and faster?? I find no books at > my bookstore on FreeBSD installation amongst all the Linux books. I > don't think that the folks at FreeBSD should bragg about how easy their > product is to install. > > I would like to install from CD using my Toshiba IDE cdrom drive like I > did with Linux. I first boot into FreeBSD from my cdrom. Then I go > though the installation procedure, and even get all the IRQ conflicts > resolved and my disk drives to be recognized and partitioned the way I > want. Then the install program gets to the point where I am actually > load the stuff from the cdrom. Then I get the message that I suddenly > have no cdrom configured. This is not good. > What is the CD connected to? Make sure it is connected to one of the EIDE controllers on your motherboard (not a soundcard or such). You should try it either as the slave on the primary controller or as the master on the secondary controller. When you boot the install disk, make sure that the CD is in the drive! Nadav From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 12 01:17:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA05936 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 12 May 1997 01:17:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.barcode.co.il (gatekeeper.barcode.co.il [192.116.93.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA05931 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 01:17:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nadav@localhost) by gatekeeper.barcode.co.il (8.8.5/8.6.12) id LAA26314; Mon, 12 May 1997 11:14:03 +0300 (IDT) Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 11:14:03 +0300 (IDT) From: Nadav Eiron To: Obelisk@DAL.net cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SMP In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 11 May 1997 Obelisk@DAL.net wrote: > I stated my question incorrectly, basically is SMP support safe enough to > use on a daily basis, as I am getting a dual p200 pro and don't wanna use > Linux *EG* Thanks! Depends on what you do with it. SMP is integrated into 3.0-current, so it is *at least* as dangerous as running -current. If you feel current will do, subscribe to the smp and current lists and ask there. They'll probably give you a better answer. It might also depend on the hardware you're using. Personaly I don't think I'll run a production server on 3.0/SMP just yet, but that's *my* personal opinion. [gigantic .signature snipped] Nadav From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 12 01:33:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA06416 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 12 May 1997 01:33:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from krondor.cpn.org.au (slip3.tas.gov.au [147.109.237.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA06411 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 01:33:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from krondor.cpn.org.au (krondor.cpn.org.au [172.16.1.1]) by krondor.cpn.org.au (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id SAA17798 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 18:32:32 GMT Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 18:32:32 +0000 () From: Carey Nairn X-Sender: cpn@krondor.cpn.org.au To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Western Digital Enterprise SCSC drive problems In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19970512170945.007640f0@falcon.pacit.tas.gov.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 12 May 1997, Carey Nairn wrote: > greetings all, > > I have a small problem with som WD SCSI drives and was wondering if there > are any known problems with them or any advice you could give me. > > I have 3 of these drives connected to an Adaptec 2940AU controller and > trying to install 2.2.1R. During the boot sequence the SCSI BIOS gets the > drives OK but when the FreeBSD probes start I get the following errors... > > ahc0 rev 1 int a irq 10 on pci0:16 > ahc0: aic7860 Single channel, SCSI Id-7, 3 SCBs > ahc0 board is not responding > (ahc0:0:0): SCB 0x0 - timedout in datain phase, SCSISIGI==0x46 > SEQADDR==0x12c > (ahc0:0:0): abort message in message buffer > ahc0 board is not responding > (ahc0:0:0): SCB 0x2 - timedout while recovery in progress > (ahc0:0:0): "unknown unknown ????" type 13 fixed SCSI 0 > uk0 unknown device > ..... > > Do I have 3 dodgy drives ?? > any clues, help or otherwise would be appreciated. > Thanks in advance > > cheers, > Carey Nairn > I should also have mentioned... I tested the setup with a known good drive (one that already had 2.2.1R installed) and everything worked fine. This really points at the drive IMHO. I have also tried varios jumper settings on the WD drives to no avail. thanks again Carey Nairn From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 12 01:46:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA06924 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 12 May 1997 01:46:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.pi.net (root@mailhost.pi.net [145.220.3.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA06919 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 01:46:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Amigo (gn64.pi.net [145.220.201.64]) by mailhost.pi.net (8.8.3/8.7.1) with SMTP id KAA00347 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 10:46:43 +0200 (MET DST) Posted-Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 10:46:43 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <3376D615.41C67EA6@pobox.com> Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 08:34:29 +0000 From: Wouter de Boer Organization: Planet Internet X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Subject: Netscape problems Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I've upgraded from 2.1.7 to 2.2.1 and when I started netscape and push the 'net search' button I see the following messages: May 12 09:52:51 Amigo /kernel: pid 243 (netscape), uid 1001: exited on signal 8 /usr/home/wouter $ May 12 07:53:13 Amigo syslog: /etc/pwd.db: Invalid argument May 12 07:53:13 Amigo last message repeated 7 times [3] Floating point exceptionnetscape I have changed nothing when I upgraded from 2.1.7. In version 2.1.7 it still works fine. I am not sure if it worked after I changed something to compile my own kernel in 2.2.1 I read the newsgroup "comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc" and someone there said remove the .netscape directory. But that sollution won't work. When I enter a loccation from in the netsite box everything works fine. When I go the the home page from netscape everything works fine. But when I click on the Web search link on that page I see the error described above. Can anybody help me ?? Thanks, Wouter From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 12 02:51:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA08616 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 12 May 1997 02:51:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sys1.inforel.com (root@sys1.inforel.com [207.77.100.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA08611 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 02:51:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Pgoodie (ppp4.inforel.com [207.77.100.23]) by sys1.inforel.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA29879 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 04:49:36 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199705120949.EAA29879@sys1.inforel.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.0544.0 From: "Mike Goodridge" To: Subject: Links Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 03:53:20 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01BC5E88.0853BCC0" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE Engine V4.71.0544.0 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01BC5E88.0853BCC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi! I am putting up a web page and a portion of it is being devoted to UNIX = in general. I use Free BSD serveral other BSD products and was = wondering if I could use your graphic on my page to offset a link back = to several BSD sites, such as BSDI, NETBSD and FreeBSD. Couls you send = me the graphic if this is ok with you? Thanks,=20 Mike Goodridge ------=_NextPart_000_01BC5E88.0853BCC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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------=_NextPart_000_01BC5E88.0853BCC0-- From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 12 03:20:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA09979 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 12 May 1997 03:20:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp1.xs4all.nl (smtp1.xs4all.nl [194.109.6.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA09961 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 03:20:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from magigimmix.xs4all.nl (magigimmix.xs4all.nl [194.109.6.25]) by smtp1.xs4all.nl (8.7.6/XS4ALL) with ESMTP id MAA23016; Mon, 12 May 1997 12:19:57 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from default (drt01-23.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.42.24]) by magigimmix.xs4all.nl (8.7.6/XS4ALL) with SMTP id MAA06451; Mon, 12 May 1997 12:19:55 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970512122859.0073733c@mail.xs4all.nl> X-Sender: thunder7@mail.xs4all.nl X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 12:29:38 +0200 To: Carey Nairn From: jurriaan Subject: Re: Western Digital Enterprise SCSC drive problems Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 06:32 PM 5/12/97 +0000, you wrote: >On Mon, 12 May 1997, Carey Nairn wrote: > >> greetings all, >> >> I have a small problem with som WD SCSI drives and was wondering if there >> are any known problems with them or any advice you could give me. >> >> I have 3 of these drives connected to an Adaptec 2940AU controller and >> trying to install 2.2.1R. During the boot sequence the SCSI BIOS gets the >> drives OK but when the FreeBSD probes start I get the following errors... >> I have read that WD enterprise SCSI drives had some problems with an erlier firmware version (1.51) (sporadic write-errors) on an 2940 UW, and would not be recognised at all on a SYM8751SP adapter. The same magazine reported one month later that the newer firmware version 1.70 had no problems. I suggest you try to contact WD, and try to find out which firmware-version you have. Good luck, Jurriaan There are very few people who do not become more interesting when they stop talking. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 12 04:07:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA12619 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 12 May 1997 04:07:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.EUnet.hu (www.eunet.hu [193.225.28.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA12608 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 04:07:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.EUnet.hu, id NAA03004; Mon, 12 May 1997 13:07:36 +0200 Received: (from zgabor@localhost) by CoDe.hu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA00677; Mon, 12 May 1997 10:38:54 +0200 (MET DST) From: Zahemszky Gabor Message-Id: <199705120838.KAA00677@CoDe.hu> Subject: Re: hard links To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org (FreeBSD questions) Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 10:38:54 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: un_x@anchorage.net In-Reply-To: from Steve Howe at "May 11, 97 12:09:48 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL11 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > is there any way to determine what files are > hard links to s specific file? it's obvious > for softlinks using "ls", but what about > hard links? ls -i one_hard_link df one_hard_link -> get the last column: Mounted on (eg: /var) find /var -xdev -inum inum_of_one_hard_link_from_ls -print (or on any 4.4BSD-derived system?) find -x /var -inum ... And of course, from the ls -l list, the number after the permissions is the number of hard links of this file. Bye, Gabor -- #!/bin/ksh Z='21N16I25C25E30, 40M30E33E25T15U!' ;IFS=' ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ ';set $Z;for i { [[ $i = ? ]]&&print $i&&break;[[ $i = ??? ]]&&j=$i&&i=${i%?};typeset -i40 i=8#$i;print -n ${i#???};[[ "$j" = ??? ]]&&print -n "${j#??} "&&j=;typeset +i i;};IFS=' 0123456789 ';set $Z;X=;for i { [[ $i = , ]]&&i=2;[[ $i = ?? ]]||typeset -l i;X="$X $i";typeset +l i;};print "$X" From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 12 04:07:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA12640 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 12 May 1997 04:07:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.EUnet.hu (www.eunet.hu [193.225.28.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA12618 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 04:07:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.EUnet.hu, id NAA03001; Mon, 12 May 1997 13:07:35 +0200 Received: (from zgabor@localhost) by CoDe.hu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA00648; Mon, 12 May 1997 10:33:15 +0200 (MET DST) From: Zahemszky Gabor Message-Id: <199705120833.KAA00648@CoDe.hu> Subject: Re: getopts To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org (FreeBSD questions) Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 10:33:14 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: un_x@anchorage.net In-Reply-To: from Steve Howe at "May 11, 97 08:51:46 am" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL11 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > ok - i finally figured this out, and am posting my answer > for anyone else that may be interested ... there are a few > tricky aspects of it (w/thanks to zgabor). > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > while getopts abc i; do > case $i in > a) a=$i; echo A;; > b) b=$i; echo B;; > c) c=$i; echo C;; > ?) e=$i; echo huh?;; > esac > done > shift $(($OPTIND - 1)) > echo $a + $b + $c > echo $0 $1 Hm. ?) e=$OPTARG ; echo $OPTARG 'is an illegal option or an option without a parameter' ;; And it would be better : while getopts :abc i ; do --------------^ In that way, you suppress the getopts' own error message, and get back a '?' if you give an illegal option, and get back a ':' if you give a legal option which needs a parameter, but it's missing, eg: Call the script with -x -a -b -c, but the -x is illegal, and it's missing the -c's parameter. while getopts :abc: i ; do case "$i" in a) echo option A ;; b) echo option B ;; c) echo option C with argumentum "$OPTARG" ;; \?) echo illegal option "$OPTARG" ;; :) echo "$OPTARG" option requires an argument ;; ?) echo 'What an earth is it? Getopts cannot return with anything else' ;; esac done Well, on 2.1.5, sh's getopts cannot handle this, I don't know the newer one. (But it's the way, getopts works in other shells. Get pdksh, and man it. It has a very good description about getopts - and about any other shell construct.) > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > this script may be invoked as > "script -abc file" or > "script -bc -a file" or > "script -c -cc file" ... (C will echo 3x) > > the "shift" statement MUST occur > as above, or any "file" will not > appear in "$1" when option parsing > is done. you CANNOT replace the > "shift" statement above with > > "a) a=$i; echo A; shift;;" > > type case statements, otherwise > > "script -abc file" > > where "-abc" is "$1" > will get shifted 3x, and > you will lose "file". > > any number of options in the getopts statement > may be followed by a colon, in which case, > $OPTARG will contain the options argument, > which should be "caught" by its corresponding > options "case" statement. > > the "e" case statement will trap any errors. > > i don't know if "getopts" can be used > without a "while" statement ... Yes it can, but it's not too effective ;-). Gabor -- #!/bin/ksh Z='21N16I25C25E30, 40M30E33E25T15U!' ;IFS=' ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ ';set $Z;for i { [[ $i = ? ]]&&print $i&&break;[[ $i = ??? ]]&&j=$i&&i=${i%?};typeset -i40 i=8#$i;print -n ${i#???};[[ "$j" = ??? ]]&&print -n "${j#??} "&&j=;typeset +i i;};IFS=' 0123456789 ';set $Z;X=;for i { [[ $i = , ]]&&i=2;[[ $i = ?? ]]||typeset -l i;X="$X $i";typeset +l i;};print "$X" From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 12 04:08:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA12694 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 12 May 1997 04:08:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.EUnet.hu (www.eunet.hu [193.225.28.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA12609 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 04:07:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.EUnet.hu, id NAA03014; Mon, 12 May 1997 13:07:39 +0200 Received: (from zgabor@localhost) by CoDe.hu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA00690; Mon, 12 May 1997 10:40:37 +0200 (MET DST) From: Zahemszky Gabor Message-Id: <199705120840.KAA00690@CoDe.hu> Subject: Re: hard links To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org (FreeBSD questions) Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 10:40:37 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: rewt@i-Plus.net In-Reply-To: <199705120527.BAA04270@Radford.i-Plus.net> from Troy Settle at "May 12, 97 01:29:34 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL11 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > >is there any way to determine what files are > >hard links to s specific file? it's obvious > >for softlinks using "ls", but what about > >hard links? > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---- > Sure, take a look at this for a short example. > > These two files are hard linked with 4 other files. How do I know? > look at the 2nd column. See the 6? Tells me that there's 6 node > thingies in use for that one file. (I forget exactly what those > things are called. nevertheless, there's 6 directory entries for > that one file.) They called the ``number of hard links'' :-) > -r-xr-x--- 6 root bin 36864 Feb 5 08:00 /usr/bin/chpass > -r-xr-x--- 6 root bin 36864 Feb 5 08:00 /usr/bin/chsh Bye, Gabor -- #!/bin/ksh Z='21N16I25C25E30, 40M30E33E25T15U!' ;IFS=' ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ ';set $Z;for i { [[ $i = ? ]]&&print $i&&break;[[ $i = ??? ]]&&j=$i&&i=${i%?};typeset -i40 i=8#$i;print -n ${i#???};[[ "$j" = ??? ]]&&print -n "${j#??} "&&j=;typeset +i i;};IFS=' 0123456789 ';set $Z;X=;for i { [[ $i = , ]]&&i=2;[[ $i = ?? ]]||typeset -l i;X="$X $i";typeset +l i;};print "$X" From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 12 04:08:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA12707 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 12 May 1997 04:08:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.EUnet.hu (www.eunet.hu [193.225.28.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA12647 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 04:07:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.EUnet.hu, id NAA03016; Mon, 12 May 1997 13:07:39 +0200 Received: (from zgabor@localhost) by CoDe.hu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA00701; Mon, 12 May 1997 10:42:31 +0200 (MET DST) From: Zahemszky Gabor Message-Id: <199705120842.KAA00701@CoDe.hu> Subject: Re: hard links / 2 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org (FreeBSD questions) Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 10:42:31 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: un_x@anchorage.net In-Reply-To: from Steve Howe at "May 11, 97 12:09:48 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL11 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > is there any way to determine what files are > hard links to s specific file? it's obvious > for softlinks using "ls", but what about > hard links? > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Answer 2. ncheck -i inode_number_of_file /dev/xyz, where /dev/xyz is the device which holds the filesystem of the file. Gabor -- #!/bin/ksh Z='21N16I25C25E30, 40M30E33E25T15U!' ;IFS=' ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ ';set $Z;for i { [[ $i = ? ]]&&print $i&&break;[[ $i = ??? ]]&&j=$i&&i=${i%?};typeset -i40 i=8#$i;print -n ${i#???};[[ "$j" = ??? ]]&&print -n "${j#??} "&&j=;typeset +i i;};IFS=' 0123456789 ';set $Z;X=;for i { [[ $i = , ]]&&i=2;[[ $i = ?? ]]||typeset -l i;X="$X $i";typeset +l i;};print "$X" From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 12 04:10:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA12936 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 12 May 1997 04:10:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from halicore.csv.warwick.ac.uk (csubl@halicore.csv.warwick.ac.uk [137.205.148.211]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA12929 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 04:10:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Mr M P Searle Message-Id: <1075.199705121106@halicore.csv.warwick.ac.uk> Received: by halicore.csv.warwick.ac.uk id MAA01075; Mon, 12 May 1997 12:06:41 +0100 (BST) Subject: Re: Need help creating mixed type CDs... In-Reply-To: <199705120240.WAA27767@spoon.beta.com> from "Brian J. McGovern" at "May 11, 97 10:40:06 pm" To: mcgovern@spoon.beta.com (Brian J. McGovern) Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 12:06:36 +0100 (BST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I've been playing with wormcontrol for just under a year now, creating > data-only CDs. > > Recently, I've been approached by a friend who'd like to put together > a CD of their MIDI file work - placing the MIDI files on the first (Data) > track of the CD, and then audio tracks of the music itself as its been > played by the synths... > > I can currently get the audio in an 11KHz stereo WAV file (which is what > CD is supposed to be sample wise, yes?). The data track I can make with > mkisofs. CD audio isn't 11KHz, it's 44.1 KHz, 16 bit, stereo. I don't know the exact format though. > > If someone can give me the hint on the proceedure, or a better, or a > "right" way to do it, I'd greatly appreciate it. The wormcontrol documents > seem to hint that you can do it, but it doesn't give as clear-cut an example > as a data CD. > > Thanks in advance. > -Brian > From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 12 04:38:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA14234 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 12 May 1997 04:38:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from krondor.cpn.org.au (slip3.tas.gov.au [147.109.237.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA14229 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 04:38:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from krondor.cpn.org.au (krondor.cpn.org.au [172.16.1.1]) by krondor.cpn.org.au (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id VAA18194; Mon, 12 May 1997 21:37:52 GMT Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 21:37:51 +0000 () From: Carey Nairn X-Sender: cpn@krondor.cpn.org.au To: jurriaan cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Western Digital Enterprise SCSC drive problems In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19970512122859.0073733c@mail.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 12 May 1997, jurriaan wrote: > At 06:32 PM 5/12/97 +0000, you wrote: > >On Mon, 12 May 1997, Carey Nairn wrote: > > > >> greetings all, > >> > >> I have a small problem with som WD SCSI drives and was wondering if there > >> are any known problems with them or any advice you could give me. > >> > >> I have 3 of these drives connected to an Adaptec 2940AU controller and > >> trying to install 2.2.1R. During the boot sequence the SCSI BIOS gets the > >> drives OK but when the FreeBSD probes start I get the following errors... > >> > I have read that WD enterprise SCSI drives had some problems with an erlier > firmware version (1.51) (sporadic write-errors) on an 2940 UW, and would > not be recognised at all on a SYM8751SP adapter. > The same magazine reported one month later that the newer firmware version > 1.70 had no problems. > I suggest you try to contact WD, and try to find out which firmware-version > you have. > > Good luck, > Jurriaan > Thanks for the info :) cheers, Carey Nairn From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 12 05:25:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA18310 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 12 May 1997 05:25:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay1.UU.NET (relay1.UU.NET [192.48.96.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA18305 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 05:25:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ntserver.vsat.com by relay1.UU.NET with ESMTP (peer crosschecked as: [208.12.115.77]) id QQcpfd03152; Mon, 12 May 1997 08:25:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ntserver.vsat.com from localhost (router,SLmailNT V2.4); Mon, 12 May 1997 05:23:19 Pacific Daylight Time Received: by ntserver.vsat.com from RICK.vsat.com (208.12.115.82::mail daemon; unverified,SLmailNT V2.4); Mon, 12 May 1997 05:23:19 Pacific Daylight Time Message-ID: <33770C5F.6FE5@vsat.com> Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 05:26:07 -0700 From: "Rick Lattner" Reply-To: "Rick Lattner" Organization: Intellicom X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: freebsd & NT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Have look at FAQ and got answer to my question about running 95 and freebsd on the same PC. Now would like to know if I can run NT and freebsd on the same PC, and if so, what are the 'gotchas' ? thanks in advance, Rick From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 12 05:36:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA24075 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 12 May 1997 05:36:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay1.UU.NET (relay1.UU.NET [192.48.96.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA24070 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 05:36:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ntserver.vsat.com by relay1.UU.NET with ESMTP (peer crosschecked as: [208.12.115.77]) id QQcpfe04917; Mon, 12 May 1997 08:36:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ntserver.vsat.com from localhost (router,SLmailNT V2.4); Mon, 12 May 1997 05:34:11 Pacific Daylight Time Received: by ntserver.vsat.com from RICK.vsat.com (208.12.115.82::mail daemon; unverified,SLmailNT V2.4); Mon, 12 May 1997 05:34:11 Pacific Daylight Time Message-ID: <33770EEB.1AD@vsat.com> Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 05:37:00 -0700 From: "Rick Lattner" Reply-To: "Rick Lattner" Organization: Intellicom X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: disk space required Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk is there info available that i could read re how much disk space is required for installing the various configurations ? thanks, rick From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 12 06:03:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA08928 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 12 May 1997 06:03:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zorak.gsfc.nasa.gov (qmailr@zorak.gsfc.nasa.gov [128.183.200.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA08923 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 06:03:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 31906 invoked by uid 21868); 12 May 1997 13:03:37 -0000 Message-ID: <19970512090336.61208@zorak.gsfc.nasa.gov> Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 09:03:36 -0400 From: Mark Cornick To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: QuickCam/2.2.1-RELEASE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk First, a big hi-five to the guys (and gals?) of the FreeBSD team on 2.2.1-RELEASE - I've been following FreeBSD since 2.0.something, but this is the release that finally convinced me to nuke Linux on my home box in favor of FreeBSD. (OK, so I've still got Linux on another disk, but you get the picture.) I'm looking for some help with the QuickCam driver. I have a greyscale QuickCam, attached to my secondary printer port (0x278). I have lpt1 enabled in the kernel, and I have qcam0 as: device qcam0 at isa? port "IO_LPT2" tty conflicts flags 1 (trying to remember this - the box is at home, I'm at work. LINT had "tty", qcam(4) had "conflicts", and I had to add "flags 1" to get it to probe right.) When I boot with this kernel, qcam0 is detected at 0x278 according to dmesg. So far so good. However, when I try to load the LKM with /usr/bin/qcam, I get "probe failed". I tried running xqcam and qcamcontrol from the qcamdriver-1.1.tar.gz archive with no interesting results. Now, maybe I haven't got things set up exactly right - the documentation on QuickCams and FreeBSD is pretty sparse. I did notice this: /lkm/qcam_mod.o has a date of April 1 (the build date of the GENERIC stuff, I guess?) The last kernel I built (with "make depend; make; make install" was last night, May 12. Is this significant? Is there another "make" I have to do to build the LKMs (like "make modules" in Linux, maybe?) Or do I need to rebuild the LKMs at all? I'd appreciate any pointers anyone could give on this. Basically it's the last piece of hardware from my Linux setup that isn't working yet... not crucial, but it'd be nice :) -- Mark Cornick / HSTX/NASA Goddard Space Flight Center, Code 922 mcornick@zorak.gsfc.nasa.gov From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 12 06:48:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA11167 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 12 May 1997 06:48:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from raid2.fddi.phoenix.net (alpha400.phoenix.net [207.43.3.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA11162 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 06:48:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from one ([199.3.234.104]) by raid2.fddi.phoenix.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id IAA17773 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 08:57:44 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3377206A.4B688597@dataline.net> Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 08:51:39 -0500 From: Bruce Rohde Organization: Alpha Intranet Solutions X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b4 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: DPT PM3224 SmartRAID Controler X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I'm looking for a driver for my DPT SmartRAID controler (PM3224). Thanks in advance. Bruce Rohde Alpha Intranet Solutions brohde@dataline.net (281)351-2348 From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 12 06:49:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA11211 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 12 May 1997 06:49:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.EUnet.hu (www.eunet.hu [193.225.28.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA11193 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 06:49:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.EUnet.hu, id PAA09844; Mon, 12 May 1997 15:48:50 +0200 Received: (from zgabor@localhost) by CoDe.hu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA00930; Mon, 12 May 1997 13:25:25 +0200 (MET DST) From: Zahemszky Gabor Message-Id: <199705121125.NAA00930@CoDe.hu> Subject: Re: ?mount fd0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org (FreeBSD questions) Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 13:25:25 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: sysadm@ns.sirena.ru In-Reply-To: <199705081128.PAA04525@ns.sirena.ru> from Chemisov Sergey at "May 8, 97 03:28:39 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL11 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Good day! > How make file sistem on floppi disk using mount command? You cannot make file systems with mount. You can make file systems with newfs. But first, you have to format your disk, and after it put a disklabel into it: fdformat fd0 (for a: floppy, and fd1 for b: floppy) disklabel -r -w fd0 fd1200 (of course fd1 for b: floppy, and fd1440 if it's a 1.44M drive) newfs fd0 (or fd1 ;-) But first of it: man fdformat man disklabel man newfs man disktab more /etc/disktab Bye, Gabor -- #!/bin/ksh Z='21N16I25C25E30, 40M30E33E25T15U!' ;IFS=' ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ ';set $Z;for i { [[ $i = ? ]]&&print $i&&break;[[ $i = ??? ]]&&j=$i&&i=${i%?};typeset -i40 i=8#$i;print -n ${i#???};[[ "$j" = ??? ]]&&print -n "${j#??} "&&j=;typeset +i i;};IFS=' 0123456789 ';set $Z;X=;for i { [[ $i = , ]]&&i=2;[[ $i = ?? ]]||typeset -l i;X="$X $i";typeset +l i;};print "$X" From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 12 07:17:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA13024 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 12 May 1997 07:17:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Starbase.NeoSoft.COM (jmcab@starbase.neosoft.com [206.109.7.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA13019 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 07:17:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jmcab@localhost) by Starbase.NeoSoft.COM (8.8.4/8.8.3) id JAA28067 for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 12 May 1997 09:17:19 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 09:17:19 -0500 (CDT) From: jmcab Message-Id: <199705121417.JAA28067@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: networking win95 & freebsd? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Can you network a win95 box & a freebsd box? Is it as easy as installing ethernet cardsa in both boxes & setting the win95 box to TCP/IP? Or do you need any special packages for the freebsd box? Thanks, Mike Cabaniss jmcab@neosoft.com www.lifetron.com/1014 From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 12 07:20:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA13366 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 12 May 1997 07:20:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from devsys.jaguNET.com (devsys.jaguNET.com [206.156.208.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA13361 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 07:20:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jim@localhost) by devsys.jaguNET.com (8.8.5/jag-2.4) id KAA12972 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 12 May 1997 10:20:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Jagielski Message-Id: <199705121420.KAA12972@devsys.jaguNET.com> Subject: Iomage Ditto To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 10:20:17 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: jim@jaguNET.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Has anyone tried, and succeeded, in using the Iomega Ditto tape drive to work under FreeBSD? I can get one on the cheap for an intern machine we have which isn't running with a SCSI card... -- ==================================================================== Jim Jagielski | jaguNET Access Services jim@jaguNET.com | http://www.jaguNET.com/ "Not the Craw... the CRAW!" From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 12 07:31:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA13857 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 12 May 1997 07:31:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from emma.eng.uct.ac.za (emma.eng.uct.ac.za [137.158.128.160]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA13849 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 07:30:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from shaun@localhost) by emma.eng.uct.ac.za (8.8.5/8.8.4) id QAA12636; Mon, 12 May 1997 16:30:50 +0200 (SAT) Message-ID: <19970512163050.38826@emma.eng.uct.ac.za> Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 16:30:50 +0200 From: Shaun Courtney To: freebsd-install@freebsd.org Subject: subscribe Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.68 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk subscribe -- Department of Electrical Engineering and CERECAM Unix System Administrator and Unix support AD E4 BF C8 51 94 B2 06 36 24 6A C1 A3 3A 5D 01 http://www.eng.uct.ac.za From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 12 08:19:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA16126 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 12 May 1997 08:19:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from odin.visigenic.com (odin.visigenic.com [204.179.98.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA16118 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 08:18:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from VSI48 (vsi48.visigenic.com [206.64.15.185]) by odin.visigenic.com (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA21219 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 08:18:31 -0700 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970512081834.009b5c30@visigenic.com> X-Sender: toneil@visigenic.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 08:18:35 -0700 To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Tim Oneil" Subject: ed net card question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi guys. I have a 486 that I think I'd like to use as an intranet web server for simple testing and I have some kind of NEC(?) or other kind of 16 bit ether adapter that my exsisting 2.2.1 system wants to recognize as ed0. It times out though after the system comes up, I suppose becuase it not configured, which is ok, I want to use it in the new box anyway, and the config software is probably for dos. But the default irq on the card is 3, so I adjusted the sysconfig to reflect this, as well as removed my serial card temporarily and it still timed out. I was wondering if there was an ideal irq to use on the fresh 2.2.1 system? Does the dos config ware give an extra set of instructions to kick it on line or something? -Tim From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 12 09:41:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA20397 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 12 May 1997 09:41:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thor.i-connect.net (qmailr@thor.i-Connect.Net [206.190.143.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA20392 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 09:41:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 30223 invoked by uid 4028); 12 May 1997 17:02:48 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 0.5-alpha [p0] on Linux Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3376D615.41C67EA6@pobox.com> Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 10:00:34 -0700 (PDT) From: ron@cts.com To: Wouter de Boer Subject: RE: Netscape problems Cc: FreeBSD Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am having the same problem on 2.2.0. If I find ot the problem, I well let you know (reciprocity appreciated :-) Ron McDaniels On 12-May-97 Wouter de Boer wrote: >>Hello, > >I've upgraded from 2.1.7 to 2.2.1 and when I started netscape and push >the 'net search' button I see the following messages: > >May 12 09:52:51 Amigo /kernel: pid 243 (netscape), uid 1001: exited on >signal 8 > >/usr/home/wouter $ May 12 07:53:13 Amigo syslog: /etc/pwd.db: Invalid >argument >May 12 07:53:13 Amigo last message repeated 7 times > >[3] Floating point exceptionnetscape > >I have changed nothing when I upgraded from 2.1.7. In version 2.1.7 it >still works fine. I am not sure if it worked after I changed something >to compile my own kernel in 2.2.1 > >I read the newsgroup "comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc" and someone there said >remove the .netscape directory. But that sollution won't work. > >When I enter a loccation from in the netsite box everything works fine. >When I go the the home page from netscape everything works fine. But >when I click on the Web search link on that page I see the error >described above. > >Can anybody help me ?? > >Thanks, > > Wouter > ---------------------------------- E-Mail: ron@cts.com Date: 05/12/97 Time: 10:00:34 This message was sent by XF-Mail ---------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 12 09:56:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA21160 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 12 May 1997 09:56:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rpops002.rp-online.de (rpops002.rp-online.de [149.221.232.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA21152 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 09:56:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [149.221.235.114] (rpp-as1-pri114.online-club.de [149.221.235.114]) by rpops002.rp-online.de (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id SAA01501 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 18:57:06 +0200 (METDST) Message-Id: <199705121657.SAA01501@rpops002.rp-online.de> To: "questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Configuration of a window manager Date: Mon, 12 May 97 18:57:49 -0500 From: New User X-Mailer: E-Mail Connection v2.5.03 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk -- [ From: New User * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] -- I've heard about an X window manager with Win95 look (fvwm95-2(?)) and I don't know how to install it. 1. Into which directory do I have to copy its files? 2. And which additional configurations are to be made? Please try to explain it in a very easy way since I'm a FreeBSD user for only two weeks. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 12 10:06:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA22395 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 12 May 1997 10:06:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mpeks.tomsk.su (mpeks.tomsk.su [193.124.182.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA22300 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 10:06:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by mpeks.tomsk.su (8.6.11/8.6.9) with UUCP id BAA22437; Tue, 13 May 1997 01:06:11 +0800 Received: (from vas@localhost) by vas.tomsk.su (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA12201; Mon, 12 May 1997 22:49:59 +0800 (TSD) From: "Victor A. Sudakov" Message-Id: <199705121449.WAA12201@vas.tomsk.su> Subject: Re: Installation Problems To: un_x@anchorage.net (Steve Howe) Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 22:49:58 +0800 (TSD) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Steve Howe" at "May 10, 97 08:57:31 pm" Organization: Tomsk Region Education Department X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Steve Howe wrote: > so i would -guess- a slice is just an extra block somewhere in a FBSD > partition that contains data for more "psuedo-partitions" that only FBSD > can deal with. but i still don't understand why it was so important to > have these extra "psuedo-partitions" at the cost of making things more > non-standard. i mean - if you really wanted 8 partitions, why not just > get a second hard drive? > > / > /dos > /usr > /var > > isn't that enough for a 1 drive system? You did not forget about a swap partition? -- Victor Sudakov http://www.tomsk.su/r/persons/vas.htm From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 12 10:07:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA22476 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 12 May 1997 10:07:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mpeks.tomsk.su (mpeks.tomsk.su [193.124.182.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA22452; Mon, 12 May 1997 10:07:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by mpeks.tomsk.su (8.6.11/8.6.9) with UUCP id BAA22522; Tue, 13 May 1997 01:07:19 +0800 Received: (from vas@localhost) by vas.tomsk.su (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA11610; Mon, 12 May 1997 22:27:51 +0800 (TSD) From: "Victor A. Sudakov" Message-Id: <199705121427.WAA11610@vas.tomsk.su> Subject: Re: Truncated digests To: jmb@FreeBSD.ORG (Jonathan M. Bresler) Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 22:27:51 +0800 (TSD) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199705110334.UAA08806@hub.freebsd.org> from "Jonathan M. Bresler" at "May 10, 97 08:34:56 pm" Organization: Tomsk Region Education Department X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Jonathan M. Bresler wrote: > Victor A. Sudakov wrote: > > > > Why do some of the freebsd-questions-digests come truncated? #207, for > > example. > > Victor, > freebsd-questions-digest v03.n206 is 74814 bytes long. #206 is complete. #207 is truncated. > does your mail system support mail messages this long? I use sendmail 8.8.5 and elm 2.4ME+ so I do not see any reason why it should not support them. -- Victor Sudakov http://www.tomsk.su/r/persons/vas.htm From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 12 10:22:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA23179 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 12 May 1997 10:22:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from d2si.com (macbeth.d2si.com [206.8.31.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA23171 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 10:22:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from alec@localhost) by d2si.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA29757; Mon, 12 May 1997 12:21:53 -0500 (CDT) From: Alec Kloss Message-Id: <199705121721.MAA29757@d2si.com> Subject: Re: Configuration of a window manager In-Reply-To: <199705121657.SAA01501@rpops002.rp-online.de> from New User at "May 12, 97 06:57:49 pm" To: stefan.veith@mail.online-club.de (New User) Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 12:21:53 -0500 (CDT) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk New User is responsible for: > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 12 12:15:15 1997 > Message-Id: <199705121657.SAA01501@rpops002.rp-online.de> > To: "questions@freebsd.org" > Subject: Configuration of a window manager > Date: Mon, 12 May 97 18:57:49 -0500 > From: New User > X-Mailer: E-Mail Connection v2.5.03 > Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Precedence: bulk > -- [ From: New User * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] -- > > > I've heard about an X window manager with Win95 look (fvwm95-2(?)) and I > don't know how to install it. > 1. Into which directory do I have to copy its files? > 2. And which additional configurations are to be made? > > Please try to explain it in a very easy way since I'm a FreeBSD user for > only two weeks. > > > > If your system has any sort of internet connectivity and you installed the ports collection, you'll have to 1) login as root. 2) change directory to /usr/ports/x11/fvwm95 by typing cd /usr/ports/x11/fvwm95 3) type make 4) wait a while (the distribution tarball may have to be downloaded) 5) (maybe needed, maybe not) type rehash 6) start up X, kill whatever window manager is running (try ps -ax | grep wm and look for processes like with names like twm. 7) type fvwm95 You'll probably want to adjust your .xsession (or .xinitrc) to make fvwm95 your standard window manager (if you like it). fvwm95 creeps me out, but that's just me. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 12 11:37:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA26965 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 12 May 1997 11:37:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ds9.abac.com (qmailr@ds9.abac.com [206.171.121.64]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA26957 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 11:37:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 16838 invoked by uid 501); 12 May 1997 18:37:33 -0000 Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 11:37:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Bryce Newall To: FreeBSD Questions List Subject: in_rtqtimo ???? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I've been seeing this in my log files a lot. Can anyone tell me what it means? Thanks! May 12 10:29:08 voyager /kernel: in_rtqtimo: adjusted rtq_reallyold to 473 May 12 10:39:10 voyager /kernel: in_rtqtimo: adjusted rtq_reallyold to 315 May 12 10:52:22 voyager /kernel: in_rtqtimo: adjusted rtq_reallyold to 210 ********************************************************************** * Bryce Newall * IRC: Data * Email: data@dal.net * * WWW: http://voyager.abac.com/data * IRC Admin, voyager.dal.net * * --== Try DALnet! Server irc.dal.net, port 7000 ==-- * * "Stop smirking, Number 1." -- J.L. Picard * * "I'm a doctor, not a doorstop!" -- EMH Program, ST:FC * ********************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 12 12:34:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA00270 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 12 May 1997 12:34:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from teligent.se (iservern.teligent.se [194.17.198.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA00264; Mon, 12 May 1997 12:34:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from datorn.teligent.se (datorn.teligent.se [192.168.2.31]) by teligent.se (8.7/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA09006; Mon, 12 May 1997 21:17:31 +0200 Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 21:15:04 +0200 (MET DST) From: Jakob Alvermark To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: ps don't work in 2.2.1-R Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id MAA00265 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello! I've installed FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE a couple of weeks ago. Seems to work quite ok, except one thing.. When I run 'ps' it doesn´t show any processes, it says: ps: proc size mismatch The rest of the system works, and if I want to kill a process, I can find it in /proc. But it's annoying me, and I think it's not good. So, if anyone has an answer to why my machine has this behavior, and possibly any explantion, let me know. Thanks, Jakob Alvermark ------------------------------------------------------- Teligent AB, P.O. Box 213, S-149 23 Nynäshamn, Sweden Telephone +46-(0)8 520 660 00 * Fax +46-(0)8 520 193 36 Direct +46-(0)8 520 660 32 * GSM +46-(0)70 792 16 57 From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 12 14:33:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA06291 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 12 May 1997 14:33:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from serv01.net-link.net (serv01.net-link.net [205.217.6.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA06280 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 14:33:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wpub1 (pmbc1-6 [207.49.227.76]) by serv01.net-link.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA15545 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 17:32:48 -0400 Message-ID: <33778D86.1AC8@net-link.net> Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 17:37:10 -0400 From: Nathan Wolfe Reply-To: wpub2@net-link.net Organization: Wolfe Publishing X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Fin_Wait_2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am running an apache webserver on a FreeBSD machine: Pent Pro 64M Ram I am getting alot (ALOT) of Fin_Wait_2 connetctions when I check with netstat. I understand that there is a Fin_Wait_2 timeout that can be set bun have not been able to find out how or where. Any help or input would be greatly appreciated ... :-) Thanks, N. Wolfe From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 12 15:03:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA08501 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 12 May 1997 15:03:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lightning.tbe.net (qmailr@lightning.tbe.net [208.208.122.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA08495 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 15:03:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 7082 invoked from network); 12 May 1997 22:00:22 -0000 Received: from port7.go-pc.com (HELO bc.bythehand.net) (206.20.105.146) by lightning.tbe.net with SMTP; 12 May 1997 22:00:22 -0000 Message-ID: <337793AC.537B@bythehand.com> Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 18:03:24 -0400 From: Bernard Courtney Reply-To: bc@bythehand.com Organization: Internet Creations By The Hand X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jmcab CC: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: networking win95 & freebsd? References: <199705121417.JAA28067@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk jmcab wrote: > > Can you network a win95 box & a freebsd box? Is it as easy as installing > ethernet cardsa in both boxes & setting the win95 box to TCP/IP? Or do you > need any special packages for the freebsd box? > Thanks, > > Mike Cabaniss > jmcab@neosoft.com > www.lifetron.com/1014 Hi, I have the exact same set up on my network and it works just fine, I can Telnet, FTP, get files from apache, Everything!!! Have Fun, Bernard From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 12 16:32:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA12972 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 12 May 1997 16:32:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sunsite.dcc.uchile.cl (usuario@sunsite.dcc.uchile.cl [146.83.5.204]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA12960 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 16:32:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from root@romulano [192.80.24.86] by sunsite.dcc.uchile.cl (8.8.5/Main-DCCV8-Jo5) id TAA12051; Mon, 12 May 1997 19:31:34 -0400 (CST) Received: from jgordill@localhost.dcc.uchile.cl [127.0.0.1] by romulano.dcc.uchile.cl (8.8.5/MainSec-DCCV8-Jo5) id TAA03911; Mon, 12 May 1997 19:30:39 -0400 (CST) Message-ID: <3377A81B.41C67EA6@dcc.uchile.cl> Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 19:30:35 -0400 From: Jorge Cristian Gordillo Araneda Organization: Universidad de Chile X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (X11; I; SunOS 4.1.3 sun4c) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: A question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I wanna know if exist a kind of suite for FreeBSD like MS Office, which I can get applications for networks. I'm interested in Data Bases, Worksheets and Word Processors. If they aren't freeware, can I know how much are they? And where are the contacts? Thanks a lot. Jorge Gordillo. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 12 16:42:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA13505 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 12 May 1997 16:42:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iconz.co.nz (iconz.co.nz [202.14.100.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA13494 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 16:42:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from news.iconz.co.nz (status.gen.nz [202.14.100.1]) by iconz.co.nz (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id LAA18962 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 11:42:10 +1200 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by news.iconz.co.nz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with UUCP id LAA08706 for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 13 May 1997 11:31:54 +1200 Received: (from jonc@localhost) by kiwi.pinnacle.co.nz (8.8.3/8.8.3) id LAA13070; Tue, 13 May 1997 11:17:56 +1200 (NZST) Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 11:17:56 +1200 (NZST) From: To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD 2.1.7 and COMPAT_43 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hmm, Just tried recompiling a kernel for 2.1.7, and removed the COMPAT_43 option from the list. Upon rebooting, login behaves slightly strangely: login: root root Password: ... It repeats the username typed in (there was a time when it actually echoed the password as well - but that was ages ago [2.1.5?]). I somehow don't think that this login echo behaviour is intentional. Someone may care to look into it. Cheers. -- Jonathan Chen e-mail : jonc@pinnacle.co.nz Pinnacle Software Ltd Voice : +64.9.415.4460 Auckland, New Zealand Fax : +64.9.415.4250 From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 12 16:48:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA13673 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 12 May 1997 16:48:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MTTProxy.metro.tas.gov.au (MTTProxy.metro.tas.gov.au [147.109.164.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA13668 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 16:48:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kerrym.metro.tas.gov.au (Kerrym.metro.tas.gov.au [147.109.164.253]) by MTTProxy.metro.tas.gov.au (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA00507 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 09:48:40 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970513094839.00c5b524@147.109.164.241> X-Sender: kerrym@147.109.164.241 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 09:48:39 +1000 To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Kerry Morse Subject: Is there a way to install just the Kernel Sources Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm running FreeBSD 2.2.1 and 'forgot' to install the Kernel Sources, now I want to rebuild my kernel. Is there a way to just add one bit.. -- Kerry Morse Web Page: http://kerrym.metro.tas.gov.au Metropolitan Transport Trust Email: Kerry.Morse@metro.tas.gov.au Moonah, Tasmania, Australia Work Phone: (Aust) 03 6233 4224 If a man talks in the forrest, and no woman hears him.... is he still wrong? -Scott DeLucia, WTAW From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 12 17:14:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA14847 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 12 May 1997 17:14:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.cdrom.com [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA14808; Mon, 12 May 1997 17:14:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns.isi.co.jp (ns.isi.co.jp [202.214.62.35]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA13681; Mon, 12 May 1997 17:13:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from john@localhost) by ns.isi.co.jp (8.6.12/3.4W2 ISI-Net 1996/10/27) id JAA00677; Tue, 13 May 1997 09:08:05 +0900 Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 09:08:05 +0900 From: john cooper Message-Id: <199705130008.JAA00677@ns.isi.co.jp> To: freebsd-bugs@freebsd.com, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.com Subject: Quick (freebsd 2.2.1 / xf86 3.2 / flakey mouse) question Cc: john@isi.com Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I searched the freebsd and XF86 FAQ's but found nothing corresponding the the problem I'm experiencing. I have a ps/2 mouse systems mouse that exhibits wierd behavior under both fvwm and twm. The cursor can be moved with the mouse, however the cursor instantly 'homes' back to the lower left corner of the screen at seemingly random times. The frequency of this is so high that X is effectively unuseable. The mouse is at 0x60, IRQ 12 as usual and conflicts with no other device as best as I can tell. I suspect some xf86 configuration problem here as the erratic behavior occurs in fvwm and twm. I tried selecting mouse comm protocols other than ps/2, which only made things worse. Incidentally I have the same configuration except for the video server, installed on another machine which functions as expected. The working installation uses the non-accelerated "svga" server. On the other machine I've tried both "svga" and "s3v" servers. In both installations, "moused" is not running. So at this point I'm stuck. This is a pretty generic installation so I suspect some other poor soul already grappled with this problem. Help! Any and all advice is most welcome. Thanks, -john Please respond to: john@isi.co.jp PS: Iwill P55TV SCSI Motherboard with Award BIOS, Diamond Stealth 2000 3D video card From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 12 17:40:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA16260 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 12 May 1997 17:40:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net (mailhost.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA16230 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 17:40:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from LOCALNAME ([207.147.168.74]) by mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with SMTP id AAA28887 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 00:39:52 +0000 Message-ID: <3377B96C.1633@worldnet.att.net> Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 17:44:28 -0700 From: "Jeffrey J. Ayres" Organization: independent X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: blank screen after starting twm/fvwm95 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, Recently I attempted installing twm and fvwm95 from version 2.2.1 FreeBSD. I used the same configuration as with version 2.1.5. After attempting the installation with the .xsession file (file executable) the screen was blank, actually grey and white. The window did not appear. If I click the right mouse button the twm manager appears with the usual commands including move, resize, delete, kill etc. How do I enable the window to appear on the screen? Jeff Ayres JeffAyres@worldnet.att.net From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 12 17:43:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA16389 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 12 May 1997 17:43:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lightning.tbe.net (qmailr@lightning.tbe.net [208.208.122.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA16384 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 17:43:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 10190 invoked from network); 13 May 1997 00:40:25 -0000 Received: from port7.go-pc.com (HELO bc.bythehand.net) (206.20.105.146) by lightning.tbe.net with SMTP; 13 May 1997 00:40:25 -0000 Message-ID: <3377B931.244C@bythehand.com> Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 20:43:29 -0400 From: Bernard Courtney Reply-To: bc@bythehand.com Organization: Internet Creations By The Hand X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: UN Tar Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk HI all, Quick question- what is the command to un tar a local file? eg. I have qmail in the /var directory, I want to extract it to the /var directory- what is the command? From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 12 18:05:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA17676 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 12 May 1997 18:05:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shell.dave-world.net (yaning@shell.dave-world.net [204.189.73.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA17668 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 18:05:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from yaning@localhost) by shell.dave-world.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA12070 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 12 May 1997 20:00:42 -0500 (CDT) From: Yaning Wang Message-Id: <199705130100.UAA12070@shell.dave-world.net> Subject: CDROM can not be found To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 20:00:42 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk My CD is connected with a soundcard (Matshita CDROM/Panasonic Drive CR-563), however, it is supported by FreeBSD 2.2.1 according to The Complete FreeBSD (Walnut Creek CDROM). But it just can not be recognized. Each time during the installation, whenever I chose CDROM as the installation medium, the error message says: CD-ROM can not be found. (I bootup from DOS and launch the installation from the CD-ROM). Therefore, I was forced to divid my 2nd HD as two partitions inorder to use DOS partition to install (which works). The problem is the 2nd disk is too small and I do not know how to reclaim the DOS partition (I want use whole 2nd disk for FreeBSD). The bigger problem is the CD still can not be recognized. So, all those software on the CD can not be loaded. Please help, thanks. (Please also advise how to mount floppy A: drive, which is not recognized neither) My 1st HD is Western Digital 2.5G HD. It is controlled by WD EZ Drive because of the BIOS limitation. It is running under Win 95. I tried but failed many many time to install FreeBSD 2.2.1 to this disk. It seems FreeBSD has trouble to know EZ Drive. Actually, I can live with this situation (1st HD for Win 95, 2nd for FreeBSD). The problem is how and where should I install the BootMgr, so that when computer boots up I can have the choice to boot up from which disk (It seems it can only let you chose to bootup from which partition of the same disk). The only choice I have now is by switching the cable :-), to decide to use which OS. Any help is highly appreciated. My machine: Packard Bell Legend 100CD Pentium 60 Matshita CDROM/Panasonic Drive CR-563 HD1 Western Digital 2500RTL, 2.5G (Win 95, controled by EZ Drive) HD2 Seagate ST3491A, 420M (FreeBSD, can be controlled by either EZ drive or BIOS) RAM 24M -- Yaning Wang ========================================================== TP Analyst Network Service, Systems Technology State Farm Insurance Companies http://homepage.dave-world.net/~yaning From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 12 18:37:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA19214 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 12 May 1997 18:37:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from luke.cpl.net ([206.85.245.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA19207 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 18:37:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (shawn@localhost) by luke.cpl.net (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA08888; Mon, 12 May 1997 18:37:17 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 18:37:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Shawn Ramsey To: Bernard Courtney cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: UN Tar In-Reply-To: <3377B931.244C@bythehand.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > HI all, > > Quick question- what is the command to un tar a local file? eg. I have > qmail in the /var directory, I want to extract it to the /var directory- > what is the command? Try tar xvf filename.tar. If it ends in .gz do tar xvfz filename.tar.gz. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 12 18:43:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA19470 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 12 May 1997 18:43:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mtigwc04.worldnet.att.net (mailhost.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA19463 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 18:43:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wakkowar ([207.146.228.78]) by mtigwc04.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with SMTP id AAA25027 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 01:42:42 +0000 Message-ID: <3377B4A1.3C53@worldnet.att.net> Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 20:24:01 -0400 From: Jason Reply-To: jlj.mitchell.max@worldnet.att.net Organization: AT&T Worldnet Services X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Syquest 88MB Cartridge Drive? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Will my Syquest 88MB Cartridge Drive work with FreeBSD and if so who do I install it. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 12 19:01:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA20579 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 12 May 1997 19:01:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from narcissus.ml.org (root@brosenga.Pitzer.edu [134.173.120.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA20574 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 19:01:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (ben@localhost) by narcissus.ml.org (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA17698; Mon, 12 May 1997 19:01:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 19:01:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Snob Art Genre To: Bernard Courtney cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: UN Tar In-Reply-To: <3377B931.244C@bythehand.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk To untar a .tgz or .tar.gz archive: tar xzvf filename.tgz Or if it's a .tar.Z: tar xZvf filename.tar.Z If it's not compressed at all, leave out the [z|Z]. On Mon, 12 May 1997, Bernard Courtney wrote: > HI all, > > Quick question- what is the command to un tar a local file? eg. I have > qmail in the /var directory, I want to extract it to the /var directory- > what is the command? > Ben "You have your mind on computers, it seems." From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 12 19:15:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA21515 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 12 May 1997 19:15:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from train.tgci.com ([205.185.169.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA21503 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 19:15:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from emilyd ([206.250.85.68]) by train.tgci.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id TAA00297 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 19:43:13 -0700 Message-Id: <199705130243.TAA00297@train.tgci.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Riley J. McIntire" To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 19:15:25 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: (Fwd) (Fwd) File descriptors-do I have Bad Breath? Reply-to: chaos@tgci.com Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.42a) Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Ok, I know when I'm beat! Must be the way I comb my hair! ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- From: "Riley J. McIntire" To: freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 12:17:16 +0000 Subject: (Fwd) File descriptors-do I have Bad Breath? Reply-to: chaos@tgci.com Priority: normal Apologies if this is off-topic for freebsd-fs, but I either have very bad breath or am asking silly questions that don't deserve to be answered on Questions. Could someone take a look at my questions and at least tell me which manual RTFM refers to? :) ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- From: Self To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: File descriptors Reply-to: chaos@tgci.com Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 13:27:28 I'm getting some bad file descriptor errors that prevented me from compiling a new kernal (I'm new...), and got some help here about that. But I'm not clear about what causes bad file descriptors or even what they are/do. I've searched the docs, man hier, man fd and am still not clear. Do they indicate the state a file is in? Open, writable, locked? What constitutes a bad one? Is it caused by bad hardware? Disks? Controllers? I'm had stuff like this on more that one occasion: find: /usr/include/machine: Bad file descriptor find: /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_int/loop.c: Bad file descriptor find: /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_int/obstack.c: Bad file descriptor etc Last time I had to use clri and some other stuff to fix it. fsck doesn't take care of it. I am going to replace the IDE 1.2GB Maxtor with a Seagate scsi for this low volume webserver( and move it from 2.1.7 to 2.2.1--a good idea???). Will this fix the cause? Is a bad disk causing this? I haven't done a low-level format, but plan on it later. Should/will this show up anything? Could someone explain or point me to some documentation on this? Ciao, Riley From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 12 19:17:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA21705 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 12 May 1997 19:17:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from super-g.inch.com (super-g.com [204.178.32.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA21695 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 19:17:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (spork@localhost) by super-g.inch.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id WAA02082; Mon, 12 May 1997 22:25:22 GMT Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 22:25:21 +0000 (GMT) From: spork X-Sender: spork@super-g.inch.com To: Jakob Alvermark cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ps don't work in 2.2.1-R In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id TAA21700 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 12 May 1997, Jakob Alvermark wrote: > I've installed FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE a couple of weeks ago. Seems to work Did you install or did you upgrade? > When I run 'ps' it doesn´t show any processes, it says: > ps: proc size mismatch Sounds like you have an old "ps" looking at a new /proc... Charles > > The rest of the system works, and if I want to kill a process, I can find > it in /proc. But it's annoying me, and I think it's not good. > > So, if anyone has an answer to why my machine has this behavior, and > possibly any explantion, let me know. > > Thanks, > Jakob Alvermark > > ------------------------------------------------------- > Teligent AB, P.O. Box 213, S-149 23 Nynäshamn, Sweden > Telephone +46-(0)8 520 660 00 * Fax +46-(0)8 520 193 36 > Direct +46-(0)8 520 660 32 * GSM +46-(0)70 792 16 57 > From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 12 19:39:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA22937 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 12 May 1997 19:39:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx.serv.net (mx.serv.net [199.201.191.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA22930 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 19:39:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aegis by mx.serv.net (8.7.5/SERV Revision: 2.30) id TAA01781; Mon, 12 May 1997 19:39:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3377D49F.FA6@aegis1.com> Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 19:40:31 -0700 From: "Adam J. Bartels" Organization: Aegis Technology Systems X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ppp.conf/Help! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greetings! I am new to UNIX so I am hoping you can help me with some info on how to properly configure my ppp.conf file. So far I have been unsuccessful in negotiating any PPP connection and I suspect the culprit is my login script. I've experimented with various example scripts and read the chat(8) documentation but to no avial. I have a static IP address, so I have no ppp.linkup and I have no need for security so ppp.secret is blank. The hosts file contains: 127.0.0.1 localhost 255.xxx.xxx.xx mercury.aegis1.com mercury resolv.conf: nameserver 199.xxx.xxx.x nameserver 199.xxx.xxx.x ppp.conf: default: set device /dev/cuaa0 set speed 115200 disable lqr deny lqr set dial "ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 \"\" ATE1Q0 OK-AT-OK \\dATDT\\T TIMEOUT 20 CONNECT" Servnet: set phone 625xxxx:625xxxx set login "TIMEOUT 10 gin:-BREAK-gin: myusername ssword: mypassword col: ppp" set timeout 480 set ifaddr 255.xxx.xxx.xx 199.xxx.xxx.x delete ALL add 0 0 199.xxx.xxx.x set openmode active What's wrong with this picture? I would like to use multi-link PPP, so I need to dial 2 numbers in sequence to establish a MPPP connection until my ISP can get US West to successfully hunt the lead ISDN number(I'm guessing the turn of the century). When monitored from the host, I am told connection is made on one channel but no username/password is sent so the connection fails. All file data has been checked and rechecked, so I don't think it's a typo. I am also usure about the entries starting from set ifaddr. My ISP has 2 DNS, but only one IP is defined. Can I add a second, or is it unecessary due to the resolv.conf file? My BSD version is 2.2.1. Sorry about the long message. Any help you could offer would be greatly appreciated. Thanks much! Adam J. Bartels Aegis Technology Systems adam@aegis1.com From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 12 19:50:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA23671 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 12 May 1997 19:50:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from implode.root.com (implode.root.com [198.145.90.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA23666 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 19:50:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by implode.root.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA11191; Mon, 12 May 1997 19:50:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705130250.TAA11191@implode.root.com> X-Authentication-Warning: implode.root.com: localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Mark Cornick cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: QuickCam/2.2.1-RELEASE In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 12 May 1997 09:03:36 EDT." <19970512090336.61208@zorak.gsfc.nasa.gov> From: David Greenman Reply-To: dg@root.com Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 19:50:00 -0700 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Now, maybe I haven't got things set up exactly right - the >documentation on QuickCams and FreeBSD is pretty sparse. I did notice >this: /lkm/qcam_mod.o has a date of April 1 (the build date of the >GENERIC stuff, I guess?) The last kernel I built (with "make depend; >make; make install" was last night, May 12. Is this significant? Is >there another "make" I have to do to build the LKMs (like "make >modules" in Linux, maybe?) Or do I need to rebuild the LKMs at all? I don't have the answer to your device not being found, but to rebuild LKMs, cd /usr/src/lkm; make; make install. -DG David Greenman Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 12 19:58:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA24099 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 12 May 1997 19:58:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailroom.iamerica.net (mailroom.iamerica.net [207.101.121.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA24094 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 19:58:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Gforce.iamerica.net (iax-covington-ppp0008.iamerica.net [207.101.35.17]) by mailroom.iamerica.net (8.8.5/970201ewa) with ESMTP id VAA24110 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 21:57:10 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3377D8C0.721E35B5@iamerica.net> Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 21:58:08 -0500 From: Glenn Johnson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b3C (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: fetchmail not working X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have a mysterious problem. I have been using fetchmail to retrieve my mail for about a month. Today, it simply stopped working. At first I thought my ISP was having problems but then I discovered that xfmail and netscape can both access my mail server through pop3 while fetchmail can not. I am trying to find out if my ISP changed anything. I am using FreeBSD 2.2RELENG. Thank you. -- Glenn Johnson gljohnsn@iamerica.net From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 12 21:46:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA29502 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 12 May 1997 21:46:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from proxy4.ba.best.com (root@proxy4.ba.best.com [206.184.139.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA29495 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 21:46:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bsampley.vip.best.com (bsampley.vip.best.com [206.184.160.196]) by proxy4.ba.best.com (8.8.5/8.8.3) with SMTP id VAA11671; Mon, 12 May 1997 21:45:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 21:43:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Burton Sampley To: Glenn Johnson cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: fetchmail not working In-Reply-To: <3377D8C0.721E35B5@iamerica.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 12 May 1997, Glenn Johnson wrote: > I have a mysterious problem. I have been using fetchmail to retrieve my > mail for about a month. Today, it simply stopped working. At first I > thought my ISP was having problems but then I discovered that xfmail and > netscape can both access my mail server through pop3 while fetchmail can > not. I am trying to find out if my ISP changed anything. I am using > FreeBSD 2.2RELENG. Thank you. > -- > Glenn Johnson > gljohnsn@iamerica.net I've also had some weird quirkiness with fetchmail using the auto protocol detection. Try calling it w/ -p POP3 or adding 'proto POP3' (w/o the quotes) to your .fetchmailrc file. Hope this helps. Burton --- Brought to you by a 100% Micro$oft free system. You too can disinfect your system at http://www.freebsd.org E-Mail: burton@bsampley.vip.best.com Alternate E-Mail: bsampley@haywire.csuhayward.edu Home Page: http://www.best.com/~bsampley (permanently under construction) From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 12 21:53:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA29741 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 12 May 1997 21:53:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from easynet.fr (qmailr@[195.114.64.207]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA29735 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 21:53:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 21:53:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705130453.VAA29735@hub.freebsd.org> Received: (qmail 27451 invoked from network); 13 May 1997 05:23:52 -0000 Received: from max2-paris-86.easynet.fr (HELO EasyH?te.easynet.fr) (195.114.92.86) by mail.easynet.fr with SMTP; 13 May 1997 05:23:52 -0000 X-Sender: gperez@mail.easynet.fr X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org From: Gil PEREZ Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I would like to install FreeBSD 2.1.6a from the cdrom i bought I have a Hitachi CDR-8130 and it seems to be unsupported by FreeBSD 2.1.6. So, i copied all the bin files into c:\freebsd\bin, and try to install from the 4 option (via DOS). I have an error message : "No DOS primary partitions found"; I dont understand, i made partition and disklabel. Merci for the help that you give to me. Gil. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 12 22:12:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA00407 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 12 May 1997 22:12:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rusnet.ml.org ([204.171.173.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA00369 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 22:12:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (admin@localhost) by rusnet.ml.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA00343 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 01:10:27 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 01:10:26 -0400 (EDT) From: System administrator To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: lost blocks on HDD In-Reply-To: <33778D86.1AC8@net-link.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I think I'm missing about 10Mb on my HDD. Is there any utility that deals with lost blocks (clusters) on FBSD. Thank you for your time, Anton From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 12 23:13:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA03010 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 12 May 1997 23:13:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kevin.sunshine.net (pme52.sunshine.net [204.191.205.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA03005 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 23:13:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (cagey@localhost) by kevin.sunshine.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA00624; Mon, 12 May 1997 23:08:42 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 23:08:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Kevin Eliuk Reply-To: Kevin Eliuk To: Kerry Morse cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Is there a way to install just the Kernel Sources In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19970513094839.00c5b524@147.109.164.241> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk It's easier than ever with 2.2.x.:-) Use /stand/sysinstall and in post-install configuration choose install additional distribution sets chose custom with space bar choose src again with space bar and then choose sys even again with space bar then your way out choose your media blah blah. All under the assumption you have your ppp set up. On Tue, 13 May 1997, Kerry Morse wrote: >I'm running FreeBSD 2.2.1 and 'forgot' to install the Kernel Sources, >now I want to rebuild my kernel. Is there a way to just add one bit.. >-- > Kerry Morse Web Page: http://kerrym.metro.tas.gov.au > Metropolitan Transport Trust Email: Kerry.Morse@metro.tas.gov.au > Moonah, Tasmania, Australia Work Phone: (Aust) 03 6233 4224 > > If a man talks in the forrest, > and no woman hears him.... > is he still wrong? -Scott DeLucia, WTAW > _______________________________________ |\ /| | \ kevin_eliuk@sunshine.net / | My manhood shouldn't be | \ Kevin G. Eliuk / | measured by the length | /^\_________________________/^\ | of my run on sentences. | / \ | |/--===### Powered By FreeBSD 2.2.1 \| | www.freebsd.org | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 12 23:37:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA04151 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 12 May 1997 23:37:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de (helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de [141.31.166.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA04146 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 23:37:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from helbig@localhost) by helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA22561; Tue, 13 May 1997 08:37:21 +0200 (MET DST) From: Wolfgang Helbig Message-Id: <199705130637.IAA22561@helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de> Subject: Re: A question In-Reply-To: <3377A81B.41C67EA6@dcc.uchile.cl> from Jorge Cristian Gordillo Araneda at "May 12, 97 07:30:35 pm" To: jgordill@dcc.uchile.cl (Jorge Cristian Gordillo Araneda) Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 08:37:21 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL30 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Hi, > I wanna know if exist a kind of suite for FreeBSD like MS Office, which > I can get applications for networks. I'm interested in Data Bases, Have a look at the port staroffice in /usr/ports/editors. This might be what you want to have. Wolfgang From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 00:10:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA05332 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 00:10:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ds9.abac.com (qmailr@ds9.abac.com [206.171.121.64]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA05304 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 00:09:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 20379 invoked by uid 501); 13 May 1997 07:09:52 -0000 Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 00:09:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Bryce Newall To: Jason cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Syquest 88MB Cartridge Drive? In-Reply-To: <3377B4A1.3C53@worldnet.att.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 12 May 1997, Jason wrote: > Will my Syquest 88MB Cartridge Drive work with FreeBSD and if so who do > I install it. If it's a SCSI drive, it'll work. I have a SyJet 1.5 GB removable drive myself, and it works fine (although I'm using Linux on that particular machine, not FreeBSD, though it should still work similarly). All you'll have to do is put a cartridge in and mount it, and the system should handle the rest. ********************************************************************** * Bryce Newall * IRC: Data * Email: data@dal.net * * WWW: http://voyager.abac.com/data * IRC Admin, voyager.dal.net * * --== Try DALnet! Server irc.dal.net, port 7000 ==-- * * "Stop smirking, Number 1." -- J.L. Picard * * "I'm a doctor, not a doorstop!" -- EMH Program, ST:FC * ********************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 00:15:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA05628 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 00:15:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gravy.kishka.net (root@chestnut1-46.slip.netaxs.com [207.8.210.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA05623 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 00:15:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by gravy.kishka.net (8.8.5/8.8.4) with SMTP id DAA00167 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 03:14:57 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 03:14:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Bryan Liesner X-Sender: root@localhost To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: CDROM question Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk What's the difference between /dev/wcd0a and /dev/wcd0c? Thanks, ____ | _ \ | |_) |_ __ _ _ __ _ _ __ | _ <| '__| | | |/ _` | '_ \ ====================== | |_) | | | |_| | (_| | | | | = Powered by FreeBSD = |____/|_| \__, |\__,_|_| |_| ====================== __/ | |___/ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 00:22:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA06044 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 00:22:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lsv-is.lifescan-can.com ([207.6.89.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA06038 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 00:22:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tbaird@localhost) by lsv-is.lifescan-can.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id AAA22797; Tue, 13 May 1997 00:17:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 00:17:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Baird To: jmcab cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: networking win95 & freebsd? In-Reply-To: <199705121417.JAA28067@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Look at the SAMBA package....It will allow you to share file/printer resources between w95 & fbsd. Yes you will need a couple of NICs (try 10 Base 2 ethernet -- the coax style). Load the Microsoft Networks Client and tcp/ip onto your w95 system, SAMBA onto your fbsd system, tweak the smb.conf file and away you go! MAKE SURE YOU READ THE MANUAL FOR SAMBA!!!!!! On Mon, 12 May 1997, jmcab wrote: > Can you network a win95 box & a freebsd box? Is it as easy as installing > ethernet cardsa in both boxes & setting the win95 box to TCP/IP? Or do you > need any special packages for the freebsd box? > Thanks, > > Mike Cabaniss > jmcab@neosoft.com > www.lifetron.com/1014 > From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 00:26:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA06315 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 00:26:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.116.240]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA06310 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 00:26:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.31.2]) by Campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (RBI-Z-5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id JAA25067; Tue, 13 May 1997 09:27:58 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.8.5/8.6.9) id JAA03174; Tue, 13 May 1997 09:27:31 +0200 (MEST) From: Christoph Kukulies Message-Id: <199705130727.JAA03174@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Subject: Re: blank screen after starting twm/fvwm95 In-Reply-To: <3377B96C.1633@worldnet.att.net> from "Jeffrey J. Ayres" at "May 12, 97 05:44:28 pm" To: JeffAyres@worldnet.att.net (Jeffrey J. Ayres) Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 09:27:30 +0200 (MEST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: Christoph Kukulies X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Hello, > Recently I attempted installing twm and fvwm95 from version 2.2.1 > FreeBSD. I used the same configuration as with version 2.1.5. After > attempting the installation with the .xsession file (file executable) > the screen was blank, actually grey and white. The window did not > appear. If I click the right mouse button the twm manager appears with > the usual commands including move, resize, delete, kill etc. How do I > enable the window to appear on the screen? Did you take a look at .xsession-errors? I would recommend to postpone your xdm setup and first get things set up by using startx and editing .xinitrc to your needs. As for .fvwm95 I can say that one of the most common errors is that people don't have a .fvmw2rc95 (or whatever it is called) in their home directory. (usually cp /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fvwm95-2/system.fvwm2rc95 $HOME) When everything works as desired then copy .xinitrc to .xsession and start xdm. > > Jeff Ayres > JeffAyres@worldnet.att.net > > -- Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 00:42:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA07135 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 00:42:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.116.240]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA07130 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 00:42:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.31.2]) by Campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (RBI-Z-5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id JAA25436; Tue, 13 May 1997 09:43:12 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.8.5/8.6.9) id JAA03237; Tue, 13 May 1997 09:42:43 +0200 (MEST) From: Christoph Kukulies Message-Id: <199705130742.JAA03237@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Subject: Re: Quick (freebsd 2.2.1 / xf86 3.2 / flakey mouse) question In-Reply-To: <199705130008.JAA00677@ns.isi.co.jp> from john cooper at "May 13, 97 09:08:05 am" To: john@isi.co.jp (john cooper) Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 09:42:42 +0200 (MEST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, john@isi.com Reply-To: Christoph Kukulies X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk First, please do not cross post to that many groups. Did you try the kernel option options PSM_CHECKSYNC #checks the header byte for sync. > Hi, > I searched the freebsd and XF86 FAQ's but found nothing > corresponding the the problem I'm experiencing. I have a > ps/2 mouse systems mouse that exhibits wierd behavior > under both fvwm and twm. > > The cursor can be moved with the mouse, however the cursor > instantly 'homes' back to the lower left corner of the screen > at seemingly random times. The frequency of this is so high > that X is effectively unuseable. > > The mouse is at 0x60, IRQ 12 as usual and conflicts with > no other device as best as I can tell. I suspect some > xf86 configuration problem here as the erratic behavior > occurs in fvwm and twm. I tried selecting mouse comm > protocols other than ps/2, which only made things worse. > > Incidentally I have the same configuration except for > the video server, installed on another machine which > functions as expected. The working installation uses > the non-accelerated "svga" server. On the other machine > I've tried both "svga" and "s3v" servers. In both > installations, "moused" is not running. Is the motherboard + hardware (mouse) the same in both cases? > > So at this point I'm stuck. This is a pretty generic > installation so I suspect some other poor soul already > grappled with this problem. Help! > > Any and all advice is most welcome. > > Thanks, > > -john > > Please respond to: john@isi.co.jp > > PS: Iwill P55TV SCSI Motherboard with Award BIOS, Diamond Stealth > 2000 3D video card > > -- Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 01:28:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA09005 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 01:28:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.barcode.co.il (gatekeeper.barcode.co.il [192.116.93.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA08998 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 01:28:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by gatekeeper.barcode.co.il (8.8.5/8.6.12) id LAA29119; Tue, 13 May 1997 11:25:49 +0300 (IDT) X-Authentication-Warning: gatekeeper.barcode.co.il: smap set sender to using -f Received: from localhost.barcode.co.il(127.0.0.1) by gatekeeper.barcode.co.il via smap (V1.3) id sma029115; Tue May 13 11:25:24 1997 Message-ID: <337825D2.2E69@barcode.co.il> Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 11:26:58 +0300 From: Nadav Eiron X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; SunOS 5.5 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rick Lattner CC: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: disk space required References: <33770EEB.1AD@vsat.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Rick Lattner wrote: > > is there info available that i could read re how much disk space > is required for installing the various configurations ? thanks, rick If I recall correctly, if you choose a custom distribution it tells you the aproximate size of each option... Nadav From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 01:30:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA09165 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 01:30:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.barcode.co.il (gatekeeper.barcode.co.il [192.116.93.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA09156 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 01:30:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by gatekeeper.barcode.co.il (8.8.5/8.6.12) id LAA29134; Tue, 13 May 1997 11:27:19 +0300 (IDT) X-Authentication-Warning: gatekeeper.barcode.co.il: smap set sender to using -f Received: from localhost.barcode.co.il(127.0.0.1) by gatekeeper.barcode.co.il via smap (V1.3) id sma029131; Tue May 13 11:26:49 1997 Message-ID: <33782627.7FD0@barcode.co.il> Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 11:28:23 +0300 From: Nadav Eiron X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; SunOS 5.5 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jonc@pinnacle.co.nz CC: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.1.7 and COMPAT_43 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk jonc@pinnacle.co.nz wrote: > > Hmm, > > Just tried recompiling a kernel for 2.1.7, and removed the COMPAT_43 > option from the list. Upon rebooting, login behaves slightly strangely: > > login: root > root > Password: > > ... > > It repeats the username typed in (there was a time when it actually > echoed the password as well - but that was ages ago [2.1.5?]). > > I somehow don't think that this login echo behaviour is intentional. > Someone may care to look into it. > > Cheers. > -- > Jonathan Chen e-mail : jonc@pinnacle.co.nz > Pinnacle Software Ltd Voice : +64.9.415.4460 > Auckland, New Zealand Fax : +64.9.415.4250 Why did you remove COMPAT_43? It's one of the things that's not meant to be removed from the kernel config file (as the comment states). Most noteably it breaks xterm. Nadav From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 02:33:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA11951 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 02:33:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from federation.addy.com (federation.addy.com [207.239.68.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA11942 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 02:33:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (fbsdlist@localhost) by federation.addy.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id FAA23580 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 05:33:47 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 05:33:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Cliff Addy To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Is there a way to install just the Kernel Sources In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 12 May 1997, Kevin Eliuk wrote: > It's easier than ever with 2.2.x.:-) > > Use /stand/sysinstall and in post-install configuration choose install > additional distribution sets chose custom with space bar choose src > again with space bar and then choose sys even again with space bar > then your way out choose your media blah blah. Will this work to upgrade a 2.2R kernel to 2.2.1? I want to get the updated Adaptec 2940uw drivers. Or should I ugrade the entire system? Or is there a better way? From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 02:47:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA12357 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 02:47:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iceberg.anchorage.net. (root@iceberg.anchorage.net [207.14.72.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id CAA12352 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 02:47:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aak.anchorage.net (ai-129 [207.14.72.129]) by iceberg.anchorage.net. (8.6.11/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA02698; Tue, 13 May 1997 00:44:02 -0800 Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 01:37:41 -0800 (AKDT) From: Steve Howe X-Sender: abc@aak.anchorage.net To: Mike Goodridge cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Links In-Reply-To: <199705120949.EAA29879@sys1.inforel.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 12 May 1997, Mike Goodridge wrote: > I am putting up a web page and a portion of it is being devoted to UNIX in general. I use Free BSD serveral other BSD products and was wondering if I could use your graphic on my page to offset a link back to several BSD sites, such as BSDI, NETBSD and FreeBSD. Couls you send me the graphic if this is ok with you? > > Thanks, > Mike Goodridge how about using a real email program that doesn't send your message in one long line? yes - i think you can use them as long as you don't profit from them. and they are only meant for FBSD servers. they are copyrighted, i believe. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sleep: a sign a caffeine deprivation ... http://www.anchorage.net/~un_x ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 04:13:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA15111 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 04:13:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iceberg.anchorage.net. (root@iceberg.anchorage.net [207.14.72.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id EAA15106 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 04:13:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aak.anchorage.net (ai-131 [207.14.72.131]) by iceberg.anchorage.net. (8.6.11/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA02856; Tue, 13 May 1997 02:09:10 -0800 Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 03:02:35 -0800 (AKDT) From: Steve Howe X-Sender: abc@aak.anchorage.net To: Steve Howe cc: Wolfgang Helbig , freebsd-questions Subject: Re: permissions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 4 May 1997, Steve Howe wrote: regarding root being able to write r-- r-- r-- (owner root) files, i don't see "chflags", or "ls -o" on other UNIX systems, is this a BSD only type of thing - file flags? ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sleep: a sign a caffeine deprivation ... http://www.anchorage.net/~un_x ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 04:30:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA15646 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 04:30:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from d2si.com (macbeth.d2si.com [206.8.31.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA15640 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 04:30:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from alec@localhost) by d2si.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA01665; Tue, 13 May 1997 06:30:33 -0500 (CDT) From: Alec Kloss Message-Id: <199705131130.GAA01665@d2si.com> Subject: Re: (Fwd) (Fwd) File descriptors-do I have Bad Breath? In-Reply-To: <199705130243.TAA00297@train.tgci.com> from "Riley J. McIntire" at "May 12, 97 07:15:25 pm" To: chaos@tgci.com Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 06:30:33 -0500 (CDT) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Riley, I've tried to answer you questions best I could... Riley J. McIntire is responsible for: > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 12 22:21:03 1997 > Message-Id: <199705130243.TAA00297@train.tgci.com> > Comments: Authenticated sender is > From: "Riley J. McIntire" > To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG > Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 19:15:25 +0000 > Subject: (Fwd) (Fwd) File descriptors-do I have Bad Breath? > Reply-to: chaos@tgci.com > Priority: normal > X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.42a) > Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Precedence: bulk > Ok, I know when I'm beat! Must be the way I comb my hair! > > ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- > From: "Riley J. McIntire" > To: freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG > Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 12:17:16 +0000 > Subject: (Fwd) File descriptors-do I have Bad Breath? > Reply-to: chaos@tgci.com > Priority: normal > > Apologies if this is off-topic for freebsd-fs, but I either have very > bad breath or am asking silly questions that don't deserve to be > answered on Questions. > > Could someone take a look at my questions and at least tell me which > manual RTFM refers to? :) > > ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- > From: Self > To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: File descriptors > Reply-to: chaos@tgci.com > Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 13:27:28 > > I'm getting some bad file descriptor errors that prevented me from > compiling a new kernal (I'm new...), and got some help here about > that. A "Bad file descriptor" message corresponds error EBADF. You can look up some details on errors by typing man errno. Here's the section for EBADF: 9 EBADF Bad file descriptor. A file descriptor argument was out of range, referred to no open file, or a read (write) request was made to a file that was only open for writing (reading). So, a "Bad file descriptor refers to a illegal file descriptor used in a program. This is likely to happen if the open of a file fails and the caller of open(2) doesn't check to make sure the file was opened before trying to use it. Which leads us up to your next question about file descriptors themselves. > > But I'm not clear about what causes bad file descriptors or even > what they are/do. > A file descriptor is a small integer number (usually between 0 and 50, if not 0 and 10) used to reference a file (or other device) after being opened. Typical usage in a C program is something like this: /* ... */ { int fd; fd = open ("/tmp/mytempfile", O_RDWR); if (fd == -1) { fprintf (stderr, "Unable to open " "/tmp/mytempfile: %s", strerror (errno)); exit (1); } write (fd, "Hello World", strlen ("Hello World")); close (fd); exit (1); } If you are not a C programmer, this will not make much sense, but I'll try to describe what is going on. The system call open(2) is made, attemping to open the file /tmp/mytempfile in read/write mode. If successful, open returns a non-negative descriptor (a small number) for the process to use when referencing the file. If open(2) fails, it returns -1, which is typical unix convention. > I've searched the docs, man hier, man fd and am still not clear. Do > they indicate the state a file is in? Open, writable, locked? What > constitutes a bad one? Is it caused by bad hardware? Disks? > Controllers? So no, bad file descriptors are not caused (directly) by disks. In fact, you can get bad file descriptor messages when working with non-disk related things, such as sockets. It is much more likely that you are hitting some configured-in limit of your system. Try typing limit at a csh prompt and checking the limit on descriptors (or openfiles). You may be able to raise it with limit descriptors 200 or something like it. (200 is just an example and is perhaps to high.) > > I'm had stuff like this on more that one occasion: > > find: /usr/include/machine: Bad file descriptor > find: /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_int/loop.c: Bad file descriptor > find: /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_int/obstack.c: Bad file descriptor > etc > > Last time I had to use clri and some other stuff to fix it. fsck > doesn't take care of it. > > I am going to replace the IDE 1.2GB Maxtor with a Seagate scsi for > this low volume webserver( and move it from 2.1.7 to 2.2.1--a good > idea???). > > Will this fix the cause? Is a bad disk causing this? I haven't done > a low-level format, but plan on it later. Should/will this show up > anything? > > Could someone explain or point me to some documentation on this? > > Ciao, > > Riley > > For more information on unix system calls, etc., you may want to try "Advanced Programming in the UNIX Environment" by W. Richard Stevens (published by Addison-Wesley) I've also had recommended to me "The Design of the UNIX Operating System" by M.J. Bach (published by Prentice-Hall) although I've never read it. Hope this helps. I'd guess most people who read your first postings assumed someone else would answer. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 04:36:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA15899 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 04:36:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iceberg.anchorage.net. (root@iceberg.anchorage.net [207.14.72.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id EAA15894 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 04:36:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aak.anchorage.net (ai-131 [207.14.72.131]) by iceberg.anchorage.net. (8.6.11/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA02903; Tue, 13 May 1997 02:33:19 -0800 Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 03:26:44 -0800 (AKDT) From: Steve Howe X-Sender: abc@aak.anchorage.net To: jmcab cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: networking win95 & freebsd? In-Reply-To: <199705121417.JAA28067@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 12 May 1997, jmcab wrote: > Can you network a win95 box & a freebsd box? Is it as easy as installing > ethernet cardsa in both boxes & setting the win95 box to TCP/IP? Or do you > need any special packages for the freebsd box? > Thanks, > > Mike Cabaniss > jmcab@neosoft.com > www.lifetron.com/1014 why wouldn't you be able to? you ARE doing it most likely if you're uning 95 to dial an ISP ... although i heard reports some time back that 95 had a buggy TCP/IP/ethernet thingie ... but that was over a year ago. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sleep: a sign a caffeine deprivation ... http://www.anchorage.net/~un_x ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 04:43:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA16155 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 04:43:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iceberg.anchorage.net. (root@iceberg.anchorage.net [207.14.72.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id EAA16148 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 04:43:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aak.anchorage.net (ai-131 [207.14.72.131]) by iceberg.anchorage.net. (8.6.11/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA02920; Tue, 13 May 1997 02:39:51 -0800 Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 03:33:15 -0800 (AKDT) From: Steve Howe X-Sender: abc@aak.anchorage.net To: Tim Oneil cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ed net card question In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19970512081834.009b5c30@visigenic.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 12 May 1997, Tim Oneil wrote: > Hi guys. I have a 486 that I think I'd like to use as an > intranet web server for simple testing and I have some > kind of NEC(?) or other kind of 16 bit ether adapter that NEC - company NIC - network interface card > my exsisting 2.2.1 system wants to recognize as ed0. It NE2000 compatable (good) > times out though after the system comes up, I suppose becuase ? > it not configured, which is ok, I want to use it in the new > box anyway, and the config software is probably for dos. But you may need it to program the flash ... > the default irq on the card is 3, so I adjusted the sysconfig BAD setting - will conflict with COM2 (oh, it's jumperable?) > to reflect this, as well as removed my serial card temporarily the pc has no UARTs on board? > and it still timed out. I was wondering if there was an ideal > irq to use on the fresh 2.2.1 system? Does the dos config ware yeah, 5 or 7 - as long as you don't use your printer on one of those. > give an extra set of instructions to kick it on line or something? you should read more about this stuff. you will need to set up ARP, PPP, etc, etc. > -Tim ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sleep: a sign a caffeine deprivation ... http://www.anchorage.net/~un_x ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 04:59:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA16565 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 04:59:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iceberg.anchorage.net. (root@iceberg.anchorage.net [207.14.72.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id EAA16558 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 04:59:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aak.anchorage.net (ai-131 [207.14.72.131]) by iceberg.anchorage.net. (8.6.11/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA02992; Tue, 13 May 1997 02:55:47 -0800 Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 03:49:11 -0800 (AKDT) From: Steve Howe X-Sender: abc@aak.anchorage.net To: Bernard Courtney cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: UN Tar In-Reply-To: <3377B931.244C@bythehand.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 12 May 1997, Bernard Courtney wrote: > HI all, > > Quick question- what is the command to un tar a local file? eg. I have > qmail in the /var directory, I want to extract it to the /var directory- > what is the command? man tar ... tar -xzvf file the z is used only if it's gzipped. i would untar it in a tmp directory first, to see how it untarrs - maybe not like you'd want it too. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sleep: a sign a caffeine deprivation ... http://www.anchorage.net/~un_x ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 05:56:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA18900 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 05:56:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pop.ots.stream.com (pop.ots.stream.com [208.13.180.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA18895 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 05:56:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from anelson-sunos ([208.13.175.39]) by pop.ots.stream.com (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA262 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 08:20:49 -0400 Message-ID: <33785D3E.47F5@pop.ots.stream.com> Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 05:23:26 -0700 From: Aaron Nelson Organization: Stream International X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; U; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: POSIX Compliance Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk A friend asked me the other day, "How POSIX compliant is FreeBSD?". I could not answer him. Does anyone care to address that question for me?? :^) Thanks -A -- ---------------------------------- Aaron Nelson anelson@pop.ots.stream.com nelson@null.net "Emacs is a nice operating system, but I prefer UNIX." - Tom Christiansen From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 07:01:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA21131 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 07:01:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ds9.abac.com (qmailr@ds9.abac.com [206.171.121.64]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA21122 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 07:00:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 21348 invoked by uid 501); 13 May 1997 14:00:49 -0000 Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 07:00:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Bryce Newall To: Bryan Liesner cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CDROM question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 13 May 1997, Bryan Liesner wrote: > What's the difference between /dev/wcd0a and /dev/wcd0c? As far as I know, those are just differnet partitions on the same drive. In this case, it's most probable that your CD-ROM is partitioned into several partitions (perhaps it has a Macintosh partition as well as a DOS partition), and FreeBSD is seeing that in the partition table. ********************************************************************** * Bryce Newall * IRC: Data * Email: data@dal.net * * WWW: http://voyager.abac.com/data * IRC Admin, voyager.dal.net * * --== Try DALnet! Server irc.dal.net, port 7000 ==-- * * "Stop smirking, Number 1." -- J.L. Picard * * "I'm a doctor, not a doorstop!" -- EMH Program, ST:FC * ********************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 07:05:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA21343 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 07:05:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from economic.acnit.ac.ru (economic.acnit.ac.ru [193.233.113.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA21314 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 07:05:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bazilio@localhost) by economic.acnit.ac.ru (8.8.5/8.8.4) id SAA05437; Tue, 13 May 1997 18:02:18 +0400 (MSD) Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 18:02:18 +0400 (MSD) From: "Vasily V. Grechishnikov" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD <-> NetWare ??? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi ! I use 2.2R. And it's very cool. My FreeBSD box connected to 3 LANs, for future to 4 LANs and in the every LAN we have NetWare servers 3.12/4.10 . Currently FreeBSD uses as an IPX router and Samab file server. I wish to integrate my FreeBSD to NetWare LANs with ability to share NetWare resources with FreeBSD . What is the best way ? 1. Try to share NetWare volumes through the NFS ? 2. Find tool such as Linux ncpmount ? 3. 2 + find NWE. Thanks , Vasily . ******[FreeBSD it is coolest UNIX for PC!]********* * System admin , ftp and web master. * * Home Page: http://www.econ.acnit.ac.ru/~bazilio * * E-mail: bazilio@economic.acnit.ac.ru * * * * Industrial Economy Departament * * Voronezh State Technical University * *************************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 07:15:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA21732 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 07:15:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.EUnet.hu (www.eunet.hu [193.225.28.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA21716 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 07:15:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.EUnet.hu, id QAA23794; Tue, 13 May 1997 16:14:47 +0200 Received: (from zgabor@localhost) by CoDe.hu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA00310; Tue, 13 May 1997 13:26:31 +0200 (MET DST) From: Zahemszky Gabor Message-Id: <199705131126.NAA00310@CoDe.hu> Subject: Re: permissions To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org (FreeBSD questions) Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 13:26:31 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: un_x@anchorage.net In-Reply-To: from Steve Howe at "May 13, 97 03:02:35 am" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL11 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > On Sun, 4 May 1997, Steve Howe wrote: > > regarding root being able to write r-- r-- r-- (owner root) files, > i don't see "chflags", or "ls -o" on other UNIX systems, > is this a BSD only type of thing - file flags? It's something from BSD 4.4. Of course, some other Unix(-like) opsys has such features (eg. Linux has it, too on ext2). Gabor -- #!/bin/ksh Z='21N16I25C25E30, 40M30E33E25T15U!' ;IFS=' ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ ';set $Z;for i { [[ $i = ? ]]&&print $i&&break;[[ $i = ??? ]]&&j=$i&&i=${i%?};typeset -i40 i=8#$i;print -n ${i#???};[[ "$j" = ??? ]]&&print -n "${j#??} "&&j=;typeset +i i;};IFS=' 0123456789 ';set $Z;X=;for i { [[ $i = , ]]&&i=2;[[ $i = ?? ]]||typeset -l i;X="$X $i";typeset +l i;};print "$X" From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 07:46:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA23104 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 07:46:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kevin.sunshine.net ([204.191.205.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA23097 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 07:45:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (cagey@localhost) by kevin.sunshine.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA01225; Tue, 13 May 1997 07:40:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 07:40:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Kevin Eliuk Reply-To: Kevin Eliuk To: Nadav Eiron cc: Rick Lattner , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: disk space required In-Reply-To: <337825D2.2E69@barcode.co.il> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 13 May 1997, Nadav Eiron wrote: >Rick Lattner wrote: >> >> is there info available that i could read re how much disk space >> is required for installing the various configurations ? thanks, rick > >If I recall correctly, if you choose a custom distribution it tells you >the aproximate size of each option... > > It used to with 2.1.x but does not with 2.2.x. _______________________________________ |\ /| | \ kevin_eliuk@sunshine.net / | My manhood shouldn't be | \ Kevin G. Eliuk / | measured by the length | /^\_________________________/^\ | of my run on sentences. | / \ | |/--===### Powered By FreeBSD 2.2.1 \| | www.freebsd.org | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 08:21:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA24699 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 08:21:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from teligent.se (iservern.teligent.se [194.17.198.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA24694 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 08:21:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from datorn.teligent.se (datorn.teligent.se [192.168.2.31]) by teligent.se (8.7/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA25225; Tue, 13 May 1997 17:20:36 +0200 Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 17:18:32 +0200 (MET DST) From: Jakob Alvermark To: spork cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ps don't work in 2.2.1-R In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id IAA24695 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 12 May 1997, spork wrote: > On Mon, 12 May 1997, Jakob Alvermark wrote: > > > I've installed FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE a couple of weeks ago. Seems to work > > Did you install or did you upgrade? Install. From scratch. Re-partitioned the harddrive. > > When I run 'ps' it doesn´t show any processes, it says: > > ps: proc size mismatch > > Sounds like you have an old "ps" looking at a new /proc... Aha.. I don't remember, but I think this problem came up after I recompiled the kernel. What can I do? Recompile "ps"? Thanks, Jakob Alvermark ------------------------------------------------------- Teligent AB, P.O. Box 213, S-149 23 Nynäshamn, Sweden Telephone +46-(0)8 520 660 00 * Fax +46-(0)8 520 193 36 Direct +46-(0)8 520 660 32 * GSM +46-(0)70 792 16 57 From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 08:28:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA25005 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 08:28:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from odin.visigenic.com (odin.visigenic.com [204.179.98.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA25000 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 08:28:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from VSI48 (vsi48.visigenic.com [206.64.15.185]) by odin.visigenic.com (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA1467; Tue, 13 May 1997 08:27:52 -0700 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970513082752.009993c0@visigenic.com> X-Sender: toneil@visigenic.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 08:27:52 -0700 To: Steve Howe From: "Tim Oneil" Subject: Re: ed net card question Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 03:33 AM 5/13/97 -0800, you wrote: >> my exsisting 2.2.1 system wants to recognize as ed0. It > >NE2000 compatable (good) Yeah, its an NE2000 compatible. >> times out though after the system comes up, I suppose becuase >> it not configured, which is ok, I want to use it in the new >> box anyway, and the config software is probably for dos. But > >you may need it to program the flash ... Yep. The auto config in the installation program suggested IRQ 15 which I thought was a little strange, but I selected it. >BAD setting - will conflict with COM2 (oh, it's jumperable?) Software config only, no jumpers. >the pc has no UARTs on board? Its an AMD bios 486 board. I have a serial card on it for serial stuff. >> and it still timed out. I was wondering if there was an ideal >> irq to use on the fresh 2.2.1 system? Does the dos config ware > >yeah, 5 or 7 - as long as you don't use your printer on one of those. I don't, so I guess I'll try those. >you should read more about this stuff. you will need to set up >ARP, PPP, etc, etc. I will, certainly. One thing though, I shouldn't see these time out messages normally, should I? Fortunately, the fate of nations doesn't ride on my getting this set up, its my own personal thing, I want to set up an intranet at home. So I figure I'll make the timeout messages go away first, and then start tinkering with protocols. Si? -Tim From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 08:29:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA25107 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 08:29:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kevin.sunshine.net (pme24.sunshine.net [204.191.205.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA25085; Tue, 13 May 1997 08:29:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (cagey@localhost) by kevin.sunshine.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA01277; Tue, 13 May 1997 08:25:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 08:25:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Kevin Eliuk Reply-To: Kevin Eliuk To: FreeBSD-questions , FreeBSD-Hackers Subject: [Q]swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am not running a network server only as a home machine so the effects of my problem are only my problem. But I would like to see if I can eliminate the problem by making some changes in the driver. I am getting these errors regularly, I know for sure when /etc/daily and /etc/weekly run. swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: device: 196609, blkno: 4480, size: 8192 Usually this is followed by a soft read error but this morning was followed by a hard read error when I ran `quot /dev/rwd0s2g' In a reply this morning there was a reference to /sys/i386/isa/wd.c which prompts me to ask this question. I accept that the strong possibility exists that I am beating a dying horse :( _______________________________________ |\ /| | \ kevin_eliuk@sunshine.net / | My manhood shouldn't be | \ Kevin G. Eliuk / | measured by the length | /^\_________________________/^\ | of my run on sentences. | / \ | |/--===### Powered By FreeBSD 2.2.1 \| | www.freebsd.org | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 09:15:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA27089 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 09:15:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from outland.cyberwar.com (wjgrun@outland.cyberwar.com [206.88.128.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA27082 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 09:15:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (wjgrun@localhost) by outland.cyberwar.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA24459 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 12:15:52 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 12:15:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Grunfelder To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: C compilation errors Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Can someone tell me (or point me in the right direction as to) what (packages/ports/libraries/whatever) I'm missing that would result in these errors when trying to compile a C program? m.c: In function `lockfile': m.c:113: `F_LOCK' undeclared (first use this function) m.c:113: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once m.c:113: for each function it appears in.) m.c: In function `unlockfile': m.c:204: `F_ULOCK' undeclared (first use this function) This is on a newly installed FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE system. Also, does anyone have a port of req/tkreq - I didn't see one in the ports collection. Thanks, Bill ....................................................................... Bill Grunfelder System Administrator -The above does not necessarily coincide with the views of my employer- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 09:39:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA28495 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 09:39:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from federation.addy.com (federation.addy.com [207.239.68.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA28489 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 09:39:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (fbsdlist@localhost) by federation.addy.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA06788 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 12:39:10 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 12:39:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Cliff Addy To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: undoing an ip alias Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk We're migrating many virtual webite domains from one physical server to another. As far as I know, the only way to make the old server stop listening to the ip addresses is to reboot it. However, as you can imagine, these multiple reboots (and subsequent down time) aren't desireable. Is there a way to "undo" an ip alias, i.e. tell the system "Stop responding to this ip address you have as an alias"? From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 10:06:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA29636 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 10:06:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from horton.iaces.com (root@horton.iaces.com [204.147.87.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA29630 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 10:06:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from proot@localhost) by horton.iaces.com (8.8.5/8.8.4) id MAA22400; Tue, 13 May 1997 12:05:43 -0500 (CDT) From: "Paul T. Root" Message-Id: <199705131705.MAA22400@horton.iaces.com> Subject: Re: ps don't work in 2.2.1-R To: jakob@teligent.se (Jakob Alvermark) Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 12:05:43 -0500 (CDT) Cc: spork@super-g.com, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from Jakob Alvermark at "May 13, 97 05:18:32 pm" X-Organization: !nterprise Networking Services - ACES X-Phone: (612) 663-1979 X-Fax: (612) 663-8030 X-Page: (800) SKY-PAGE PIN: 537-7270 X-Address: 200 S. 5th St., Suite 1100 X-Address: Minneapolis, MN 55402 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In a previous message, Jakob Alvermark said: > On Mon, 12 May 1997, spork wrote: > > > On Mon, 12 May 1997, Jakob Alvermark wrote: > > > > > I've installed FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE a couple of weeks ago. Seems to work > > > > Did you install or did you upgrade? > > Install. From scratch. Re-partitioned the harddrive. > > > > When I run 'ps' it doesn´t show any processes, it says: > > > ps: proc size mismatch > > > > Sounds like you have an old "ps" looking at a new /proc... > > Aha.. I don't remember, but I think this problem came up after I > recompiled the kernel. > What can I do? Recompile "ps"? Well if you did a fresh install, then it can't be old ps and new proc. But if it started when you did a new kernel, maybe your config is wrong. Do you have options PROCFS in your config? If you can why don't you try rebooting an old kernel (either the last one or the generic), and see if ps works. If it does. Then you've got a config problem. Paul. -- "Brenda Malthwit: attorney at law, young, attractive, well educated, and full of self-confidence; a woman who, as swiftly as her lascivious male co-workers undressed her with their eyes, would mentally fold the clothes neatly and put them in a pile." -- Rick Vetter of Riverside, CA "miscellaneous dishonorable mentions" to the 12th annual Bulwer-Lytton contest for bad fiction, From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 10:12:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA00170 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 10:12:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from d2si.com (macbeth.d2si.com [206.8.31.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA00151 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 10:11:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from alec@localhost) by d2si.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA03295; Tue, 13 May 1997 12:11:40 -0500 (CDT) From: Alec Kloss Message-Id: <199705131711.MAA03295@d2si.com> Subject: Re: C compilation errors In-Reply-To: from Bill Grunfelder at "May 13, 97 12:15:52 pm" To: wjgrun@outland.cyberwar.com (Bill Grunfelder) Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 12:11:40 -0500 (CDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Bill Grunfelder is responsible for: > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 13 11:58:38 1997 > Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 12:15:52 -0400 (EDT) > From: Bill Grunfelder > To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: C compilation errors > Message-ID: > Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Precedence: bulk > > Can someone tell me (or point me in the right direction as to) what > (packages/ports/libraries/whatever) I'm missing that would result in > these errors when trying to compile a C program? > > m.c: In function `lockfile': > m.c:113: `F_LOCK' undeclared (first use this function) > m.c:113: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once > m.c:113: for each function it appears in.) > m.c: In function `unlockfile': > m.c:204: `F_ULOCK' undeclared (first use this function) > > This is on a newly installed FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE system. Also, does > anyone have a port of req/tkreq - I didn't see one in the ports > collection. Thanks, > > Bill > ....................................................................... > Bill Grunfelder System Administrator > > -The above does not necessarily coincide with the views of my employer- > Well, whatever it is that you are missing, I don't seem to it either, on a 2.2.1 system. I'd guess that they are symbolic constants for some old record locking scheme that POSIX.1 has replaced. I'd guess you'll have to go into the source and figure out what it's doing, and fix it up to use fcntl() and it's constants F_GETLK, F_SETLK, etc. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 10:35:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA01544 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 10:35:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ts.shopnet.com (ts.shopnet.com [208.131.136.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA01539 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 10:35:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from deichert@localhost) by ts.shopnet.com (8.8.4/8.6.12) id LAA29861; Tue, 13 May 1997 11:37:35 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 11:37:34 -0600 (MDT) From: Diana X-Sender: deichert@ts.shopnet.com To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Floppy Tape drive support In-Reply-To: <3378602A.55E3@cki.ipri.kiev.ua> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk While I was searching through the archives for references to floppy tape support I saw several references to "lft". Everyone pointed to freefall.freebsd.org to ftp it from but I am unable to access that server via anonymous ftp. I didn't find "lft" at the ftp.freebsd.org site. Anyone know where I can find it? BTW, I'm not on this mail list so ccould you please send your replies to me directly. thanks diana Diana Eichert IT Systems Supervisor Prewitt Mill McKinley Paper Company deichert@wrench.com Tele: 505/270-0751 FAX: 505/873-7925 PGP public key: finger deichert@ts.shopnet.com From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 10:45:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA02073 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 10:45:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Radford.i-Plus.net (root@Radford.i-Plus.net [206.99.237.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA02068 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 10:45:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from abyss (pitlord@Abyss.i-Plus.net [206.99.237.44]) by Radford.i-Plus.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA24123 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 13:43:10 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199705131743.NAA24123@Radford.i-Plus.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.0544.0 From: "Troy Settle" To: "freebsd-questions" Subject: k56flex modem selection Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 13:45:20 -0400 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE Engine V4.71.0544.0 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hey all, We're soon to be upgrading our terminal server to support k56flex, and I was wondering what modem(s) are working best with FreeBSD. I would prefer an internal, and would probably just piss on an external (I'm so sick of them). TIA, -- Troy Settle Network Administrator, iPlus Internet Services http://www.i-Plus.net From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 10:57:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA02773 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 10:57:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Radford.i-Plus.net (root@Radford.i-Plus.net [206.99.237.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA02768 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 10:57:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from abyss (pitlord@Abyss.i-Plus.net [206.99.237.44]) by Radford.i-Plus.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA24264 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 13:55:24 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199705131755.NAA24264@Radford.i-Plus.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.0544.0 From: "Troy Settle" To: "freebsd-questions" Subject: wu_ftpd - can't set guest privilages Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 13:57:32 -0400 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE Engine V4.71.0544.0 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I've got a problem with wu_ftpd, and the guestgroup option. I would *really* like to keep my users restricted to /home, but wu_ftpd comes back, and gives a "can't set guest privilages" error on some of my users, but not others. They all have the same shell (/usr/bin/passwd) , and they are all in one of 2 groups (dialup, inet). My ftpaccessfile looks like this: --- begin /usr/local/etc/ftpaccess --- class all real,guest,anonymous * guestgroup dialup,inet limit all 20 Any /etc/msgs/msg.dead readme README* login readme README* cwd=* message /welcome.msg login message .message cwd=* compress yes local remote tar yes local remote log commands real log transfers anonymous,real inbound,outbound shutdown /etc/shutmsg email st@i-Plus.net --- end /usr/local/etc/ftpaccess --- As you can see, this is pretty much the default ftpaccess, with only a couple changes. I'm at a total loss as to what wu_ftpd is doing here, any suggestions? -- Troy Settle Network Administrator, iPlus Internet Services http://www.i-Plus.net From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 10:58:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA02853 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 10:58:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost1.BayNetworks.COM (ext-ns3.baynetworks.com [134.177.3.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA02847 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 10:58:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns3.BayNetworks.COM (ns1.corpemea.baynetworks.com [141.251.211.30]) by mailhost1.BayNetworks.COM (8.8.5/BNET-97/05/05-E) with ESMTP id KAA10034; Tue, 13 May 1997 10:58:15 -0700 (PDT) for Received: from lobster1.corpeast.Baynetworks.com (lobster1.corpeast.baynetworks.com [192.32.72.17]) by ns3.BayNetworks.COM (8.8.5/BNET-97/01/07-I) with SMTP id TAA11206; Tue, 13 May 1997 19:54:48 +0200 (MET DST) for Posted-Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 19:54:48 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from bl-mail1.corpeast.BayNetworks.com (bl-mail1-nf0) by lobster1.corpeast.Baynetworks.com (4.1/BNET-97/04/29-S) id AA25618; Tue, 13 May 97 13:54:47 EDT for questions@freebsd.org Received: from tkiblin (tkiblinpc.xylogics.com [132.245.55.26]) by bl-mail1.corpeast.BayNetworks.com (post.office MTA v2.0 0529 ID# 0-13458) with SMTP id AAA27510 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 13:54:37 -0400 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970513135409.00914610@bl-mail1.corpeast.baynetworks.com> X-Sender: tkiblin@bl-mail1.corpeast.baynetworks.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 13:54:09 -0400 To: questions@freebsd.org From: Tom_Kiblin@BayNetworks.COM (Tom Kiblin) Subject: Root logins... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk How does one enable Root logins from locations other than the console? I just want to be able to telnet from any machine in our network and login as root. I've changed the login.access in /etc, but it still doesn't work. Thanks, Tom _________________________________________ Thomas Kiblin Tel:(508) 916-6017 Corporate Systems Engineer Fax:(508) 916-3030 Bay Networks USA Inc. Page:1-888-605-3681 8 Federal St, Billerica, MA 01821 mailto:tkiblin@baynetworks.com http://www.baynetworks.com From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 11:09:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA03494 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 11:09:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eyelab.psy.msu.edu (eyelab.psy.msu.edu [35.8.64.179]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA03486 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 11:09:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eyelab3.psy.msu.edu (eyelab3.psy.msu.edu [35.8.64.180]) by eyelab.psy.msu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA02421 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 14:06:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970513140758.006e8728@eyelab.msu.edu> X-Sender: root@eyelab.msu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 14:07:58 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Gary Schrock Subject: Undefined symbol "_login_getclass" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Ok, this probably results from me not paying quite enough attention to the notes that have flowed by, but after doing a make world on my machine (which was originally a 2.2-gamma, I honestly can't tell you exactly when I had last make world on it, but I *think* it was about the 2.2-RELEASE time period), I get the following lovely message when trying to log in: (null): warning: /usr/lib/libutil.so.2.1: minor version 1 older than expected 2, using it anyway FreeBSD (eyelab.msu.edu) (ttyp0) (null): warning: /usr/lib/libutil.so.2.1: minor version 1 older than expected 2, using it anyway (null): Undefined symbol "_login_getclass" called from login:login at 0x6234 Any ideas or suggestions on the best way to fix this problem? Pointers to documentation about it maybe? Meanwhile, it does seem that the machine is running fine other than that, since my mail is still going through it nicely :). Gary Schrock root@eyelab.msu.edu From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 11:32:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA04751 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 11:32:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jocki.domestic.de (kuebart.stuttgart.netsurf.de [194.233.216.182]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA04715 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 11:32:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from joki@localhost) by jocki.domestic.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA02987; Tue, 13 May 1997 20:32:21 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.0 [p0] on FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 17:42:47 +0200 (MET DST) From: Joachim Kuebart To: Jan Koum Subject: Re: fvwm2 Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, Tim Oneil Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The exact location of system.fvwm2rc is at: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fvwm2/system.fvwm2rc THis is examined by fvwm2 by default if ~/.fvwm2rc does not exist. Have fun configuring! I managed to make X real usable (mouse & keyboard!!) after some hours; it's overwhelming what you can control customizing this file :-) c u Jo >> > Would someone mind sending me the example >> > .fvwm2rc config file? It doesn't appear to >> > have been installed with the window manager, >> > even a recursive search of my drive won't >> > reveal it, and without one example file I'm >> > not getting very far in customizing it. >> > fBSD 2.2.1 as a whole however is rocking! Thanks >> > to the guys who answered my question about the >> > fonts for xterm too. >> > >> > -Tim >> > >> > >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- For a world of pedigree OSs FreeBSD - top breeders recommend it Joachim Kuebart Tel: +49 711 653706 Germany From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 11:32:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA04768 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 11:32:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jocki.domestic.de (kuebart.stuttgart.netsurf.de [194.233.216.182]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA04738 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 11:32:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from joki@localhost) by jocki.domestic.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA03007; Tue, 13 May 1997 20:32:44 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.0 [p0] on FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199705130453.VAA29735@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 19:25:51 +0200 (MET DST) From: Joachim Kuebart To: Gil PEREZ Subject: RE: Cannot install from DOS partition (was: empty) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk HI Gil, you will get more answers if you equip your question with a subject line. On 13-May-97 at 04:53:26 Gil PEREZ wrote: >Hello, > >I would like to install FreeBSD 2.1.6a from the cdrom i bought > >I have a Hitachi CDR-8130 and it seems to be unsupported by FreeBSD 2.1.6. > >So, i copied all the bin files into c:\freebsd\bin, and try to >install from the 4 option (via DOS). I have an error message : >"No DOS primary partitions found"; > >I dont understand, i made partition and disklabel. > >Merci for the help that you give to me. > >Gil. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- For a world of pedigree OSs FreeBSD - top breeders recommend it Joachim Kuebart Tel: +49 711 653706 Germany From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 11:32:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA04782 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 11:32:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jocki.domestic.de (kuebart.stuttgart.netsurf.de [194.233.216.182]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA04734 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 11:32:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from joki@localhost) by jocki.domestic.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA02998; Tue, 13 May 1997 20:32:36 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.0 [p0] on FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 18:55:32 +0200 (MET DST) From: Joachim Kuebart To: Steve Howe Subject: Re: UN Tar Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, Bernard Courtney Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On 13-May-97 at 11:49:11 Steve Howe wrote: >On Mon, 12 May 1997, Bernard Courtney wrote: > >> HI all, >> >> Quick question- what is the command to un tar a local file? eg. I have >> qmail in the /var directory, I want to extract it to the /var directory- >> what is the command? > >man tar ... > >tar -xzvf file > >the z is used only if it's gzipped. i would untar it in a tmp >directory first, to see how it untarrs - maybe not like you'd >want it too. A better way to do this is to use "tar tzf foo.tar.gz | {more|less}" to see the directories contained in the archive. Saves you the step of erasing the tmp-extract ;-) >------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Sleep: a sign a caffeine deprivation ... http://www.anchorage.net/~un_x >------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- For a world of pedigree OSs FreeBSD - top breeders recommend it Joachim Kuebart Tel: +49 711 653706 Germany From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 11:32:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA04786 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 11:32:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jocki.domestic.de (kuebart.stuttgart.netsurf.de [194.233.216.182]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA04750 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 11:32:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from joki@localhost) by jocki.domestic.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA03016; Tue, 13 May 1997 20:32:46 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.0 [p0] on FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <33785D3E.47F5@pop.ots.stream.com> Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 19:34:36 +0200 (MET DST) From: Joachim Kuebart To: Aaron Nelson Subject: RE: POSIX Compliance Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, On 13-May-97 at 12:23:26 Aaron Nelson wrote: >A friend asked me the other day, "How POSIX compliant is FreeBSD?". I >could not answer him. Does anyone care to address that question for >me?? :^) FreeBSD is on it's way to be POSIX compliant. Many commands are already POSIX compliant (if so, the man page will say so). The libraries and header files can all be made to be POSIX compliant by use of a #define-statement. Blasts me how it's called :-) > >Thanks > >-A Welcome J ----------------------------------------------------------------------- For a world of pedigree OSs FreeBSD - top breeders recommend it Joachim Kuebart Tel: +49 711 653706 Germany From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 11:33:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA04867 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 11:33:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jocki.domestic.de (kuebart.stuttgart.netsurf.de [194.233.216.182]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA04735 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 11:32:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from joki@localhost) by jocki.domestic.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA03001; Tue, 13 May 1997 20:32:43 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.0 [p0] on FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3377B96C.1633@worldnet.att.net> Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 18:58:35 +0200 (MET DST) From: Joachim Kuebart To: "Jeffrey J. Ayres" Subject: RE: blank screen after starting twm/fvwm95 Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On 13-May-97 at 00:44:28 Jeffrey J. Ayres wrote: >Hello, > Recently I attempted installing twm and fvwm95 from version 2.2.1 >FreeBSD. I used the same configuration as with version 2.1.5. After >attempting the installation with the .xsession file (file executable) >the screen was blank, actually grey and white. The window did not >appear. If I click the right mouse button the twm manager appears with >the usual commands including move, resize, delete, kill etc. How do I >enable the window to appear on the screen? > > Jeff Ayres > JeffAyres@worldnet.att.net Just to make sure, copy cp /usr/X11R7/lib/X11/fvwm95/system.fvwm95rc $HOME Then check in your .xsession file the window manager doesn't block the other processes (Windows) from being started -- i.e. the Window manager should be started in the background (use `&') or as the last process. The check you .xsession-errors file for any clues. xdm seems to work since your X server is up -- but just to make sure also check /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/xdm-errors Then check if all the scripts and config files under /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm are correct -- "man xdm" is quite long and a great help! c u jo ----------------------------------------------------------------------- For a world of pedigree OSs FreeBSD - top breeders recommend it Joachim Kuebart Tel: +49 711 653706 Germany From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 11:33:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA04871 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 11:33:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (root@agora.rdrop.com [199.2.210.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA04851 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 11:33:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jocki.domestic.de (kuebart.stuttgart.netsurf.de [194.233.216.182]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA09558 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 11:32:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from joki@localhost) by jocki.domestic.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA02992; Tue, 13 May 1997 20:32:34 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.0 [p0] on FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 18:25:02 +0200 (MET DST) From: Joachim Kuebart To: spork Subject: Re: ps don't work in 2.2.1-R Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, Jakob Alvermark Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id LAA04858 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On 12-May-97 at 22:25:21 spork wrote: > >On Mon, 12 May 1997, Jakob Alvermark wrote: > >> I've installed FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE a couple of weeks ago. Seems to work > >Did you install or did you upgrade? > >> When I run 'ps' it doesn´t show any processes, it says: >> ps: proc size mismatch > >Sounds like you have an old "ps" looking at a new /proc... > >Charles > If htis (what Charles said) is the case, you have to do a "make world install" in /usr/src in order to get the 2.2.1-REL "ps" and system utilities. Although -- if you really _had_ the old binaries installed, many other things (like mount(!)) shouldn't work as well ... >> >> The rest of the system works, and if I want to kill a process, I can find >> it in /proc. But it's annoying me, and I think it's not good. >> >> So, if anyone has an answer to why my machine has this behavior, and >> possibly any explantion, let me know. >> >> Thanks, >> Jakob Alvermark >> >> ------------------------------------------------------- >> Teligent AB, P.O. Box 213, S-149 23 Nynäshamn, Sweden >> Telephone +46-(0)8 520 660 00 * Fax +46-(0)8 520 193 36 >> Direct +46-(0)8 520 660 32 * GSM +46-(0)70 792 16 57 >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- For a world of pedigree OSs FreeBSD - top breeders recommend it Joachim Kuebart Tel: +49 711 653706 Germany From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 11:33:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA04912 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 11:33:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (root@agora.rdrop.com [199.2.210.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA04868 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 11:33:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jocki.domestic.de (kuebart.stuttgart.netsurf.de [194.233.216.182]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA09557 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 11:32:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from joki@localhost) by jocki.domestic.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA03004; Tue, 13 May 1997 20:32:43 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.0 [p0] on FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199705130100.UAA12070@shell.dave-world.net> Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 19:02:54 +0200 (MET DST) From: Joachim Kuebart To: Yaning Wang Subject: RE: CDROM can not be found Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi! On 13-May-97 at 01:00:42 Yaning Wang wrote: > >My CD is connected with a soundcard (Matshita CDROM/Panasonic Drive CR-563), >however, it is supported by FreeBSD 2.2.1 according to The Complete FreeBSD >(Walnut Creek CDROM). But it just can not be recognized. Each time during the I blieve this is correct -- CDROMs on sound cards are supported by FreeBSD, but not by the GENERIC kernel used by sysinstall -- P-p-please d-d-don't guillotine me if I'm wrong, g-g-guys! >installation, whenever I chose CDROM as the installation medium, the error >message says: CD-ROM can not be found. (I bootup from DOS and launch the >installation from the CD-ROM). Therefore, I was forced to divid my 2nd HD >as two partitions inorder to use DOS partition to install (which works). Good. >The problem is the 2nd disk is too small and I do not know how to reclaim >the DOS partition (I want use whole 2nd disk for FreeBSD). The bigger Hmmm. Do you want to use the spare partition for /usr? Or /? or /var? If not, where do you want to mount it? Well, I'll leave that to you. In order to make a FreeBSD file system on the spare partition use fdisk wd1 and set the sysid in question to 165 (FreeBSD). Then use "disklabel -e /dev/wd1s1" (or /dev/wd1s2 if the DOS partition is the second one on the disk) to split your slice ("partitions" under FreeBSD are "slices") into labels (or just one label). This will be called "h" if you want to use it for /usr, or "e" if used for /var. To do this you'll aprreciate "man disklabel"'s help! Then you make file systems with newfs /dev/wd1s1e (or /dev/wd1s2h or whatever...) It's not trivial, but it's all straightforward, believe me! >problem is the CD still can not be recognized. So, all those software >on the CD can not be loaded. Please help, thanks. In case you're still using the same kernel that's obvious. You'll have to compile your own kernel. To do this, make sure /usr/src/sys exists. If not, go back to square one and install the kernel source part! To make your own kernel, go to /usr/src/sys/i386/conf. Then copy LINT to a file named like your machine. Then throw out almost everything except what you need. If you're unsure, look at GENERIC which makes a working kernel (the one you used to install!) Then, type config YOURNAME && cd ../../compile/YOURNAME && make all install && \ reboot and the fresh kernel should boot. If not, type "kernel.old" at the boot: prompt to boot the old kernel and take a strong look at your kernel config file again... The new kernel will be able to recognise your CDROM if you have included the correct drivers, and you'll be able to continue installation. >(Please also advise how to mount floppy A: drive, which is not recognized >neither) > You mount your floppy with mkdir /floppy (if not already there) mount /dev/fd0 /floppy cd /floppy .... do something ... umount /floppy In most cases floppies will have MSDOS format, then use mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /floppy Use /dev/fd1 for B: Only in very strange cases the Floppy will not be "recognized". To find out if it's recognized use "dmesg | grep fd" and look for error messages. If you see error messages, tell us. > >My 1st HD is Western Digital 2.5G HD. It is controlled by WD EZ Drive >because of the BIOS limitation. It is running under Win 95. I tried but >failed many many time to install FreeBSD 2.2.1 to this disk. It seems >FreeBSD has trouble to know EZ Drive. Actually, I can live with this This is _well_ possible ! >situation (1st HD for Win 95, 2nd for FreeBSD). The problem is how >and where should I install the BootMgr, so that when computer boots up >I can have the choice to boot up from which disk (It seems it can only >let you chose to bootup from which partition of the same disk). That depends on the boot manager. Under DOS, run BOOTINST.EXE from the /tools/srcs/bteasy directory on the CD. It will ask you where to install boot managers. Install them on all the disks it sees to be able to boot from all those disks. Master and slave are supported, 2nd controller seems not to be supported :-( >The only choice I have now is by switching the cable :-), to decide >to use which OS. Well, that's one way. That way, you get reluctant of switching and you'll decide for FreeBSD. 8-) > >Any help is highly appreciated. I hope some of this helps... > > >My machine: >Packard Bell Legend 100CD >Pentium 60 >Matshita CDROM/Panasonic Drive CR-563 >HD1 Western Digital 2500RTL, 2.5G (Win 95, controled by EZ Drive) >HD2 Seagate ST3491A, 420M (FreeBSD, can be controlled by either EZ drive or BIOS) >RAM 24M > > > >-- >Yaning Wang >========================================================== >TP Analyst >Network Service, Systems Technology >State Farm Insurance Companies >http://homepage.dave-world.net/~yaning c u jo ----------------------------------------------------------------------- For a world of pedigree OSs FreeBSD - top breeders recommend it Joachim Kuebart Tel: +49 711 653706 Germany From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 11:33:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA04932 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 11:33:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jocki.domestic.de (kuebart.stuttgart.netsurf.de [194.233.216.182]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA04785 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 11:32:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from joki@localhost) by jocki.domestic.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA03023; Tue, 13 May 1997 20:32:56 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.0 [p0] on FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19970512081834.009b5c30@visigenic.com> Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 17:59:28 +0200 (MET DST) From: Joachim Kuebart To: Tim Oneil Subject: RE: ed net card question Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On 12-May-97 at 15:18:35 Tim Oneil wrote: >Hi guys. I have a 486 that I think I'd like to use as an >intranet web server for simple testing and I have some >kind of NEC(?) or other kind of 16 bit ether adapter that >my exsisting 2.2.1 system wants to recognize as ed0. It The fact that FreeBSD probes for an ed0 (unsuccessfully, as you say) does not mean it has detected a ne2000 compatible card. You might also have a card that is completely different from a ne2000! I have also got some "legacy" network adaptors and it's always quite a drag to find out what type it is and what all those jumpers are for. In the end it goes down to trying any probable type (compile a kernel that knows about all network cards and switch them around by using -c at the boot prompt). Then fiddle around with the jumpers and the address/irq settings. This always worked for me -- after awhile :-( >times out though after the system comes up, I suppose becuase >it not configured, which is ok, I want to use it in the new >box anyway, and the config software is probably for dos. But If you have a working configuration software that's great! It will tell you thge type of network adaptor and you will be able to set the address/irq setting. After that all you have to do is switch on the correct adaptor type and address/irq and you should be up and running. >the default irq on the card is 3, so I adjusted the sysconfig >to reflect this, as well as removed my serial card temporarily >and it still timed out. I was wondering if there was an ideal >irq to use on the fresh 2.2.1 system? Does the dos config ware I always use address 0x300 and irq 10. AFAIK this is not occupied by anything else in a sane situation. Some older cards only support IRQs like 5/4/3/2. This is bad. 4 and 3 are sio, 2 is fdc, 5 is usually lpt. So -- you will have to disable one of those... >give an extra set of instructions to kick it on line or something? > If you have the correct card type selected in the kernel the attach() routine will do anything for you to switch it on. If your card is so legacy that there is no driver for it, you're in trouble (or, to be more exact, into kernel programming :-) > > >-Tim ----------------------------------------------------------------------- For a world of pedigree OSs FreeBSD - top breeders recommend it Joachim Kuebart Tel: +49 711 653706 Germany From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 11:34:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA05143 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 11:34:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jocki.domestic.de (kuebart.stuttgart.netsurf.de [194.233.216.182]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA05111 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 11:34:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from joki@localhost) by jocki.domestic.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA03010; Tue, 13 May 1997 20:32:45 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.0 [p0] on FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 19:27:27 +0200 (MET DST) From: Joachim Kuebart To: System administrator Subject: RE: lost blocks on HDD Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On 13-May-97 at 05:10:26 System administrator wrote: >I think I'm missing about 10Mb on my HDD. How the heck do you know? > Is there any utility that deals >with lost blocks (clusters) on FBSD. > >Thank you for your time, >Anton ----------------------------------------------------------------------- For a world of pedigree OSs FreeBSD - top breeders recommend it Joachim Kuebart Tel: +49 711 653706 Germany From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 11:38:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA05373 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 11:38:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jocki.domestic.de (kuebart.stuttgart.netsurf.de [194.233.216.182]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA05359 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 11:38:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from joki@localhost) by jocki.domestic.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA03013; Tue, 13 May 1997 20:32:45 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.0 [p0] on FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 19:28:16 +0200 (MET DST) From: Joachim Kuebart To: Bryan Liesner Subject: RE: CDROM question Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi! look at "man 4 scd" (The Sony cd driver). Strangely enough, this is the only place where I could get a clue about this. Anyway, it's like the standard in FreeBSD: wcd0a is a data prtition on the CD (I think there can be only one). wcd0c, however, is the complete disc. With harddisks the "c" slice is where all the partition tables and such are contained... c u Jo On 13-May-97 at 07:14:57 Bryan Liesner wrote: > >What's the difference between /dev/wcd0a and /dev/wcd0c? > >Thanks, > > > > ____ >| _ \ >| |_) |_ __ _ _ __ _ _ __ >| _ <| '__| | | |/ _` | '_ \ ====================== >| |_) | | | |_| | (_| | | | | = Powered by FreeBSD = >|____/|_| \__, |\__,_|_| |_| ====================== > __/ | > |___/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- For a world of pedigree OSs FreeBSD - top breeders recommend it Joachim Kuebart Tel: +49 711 653706 Germany From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 11:40:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA05516 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 11:40:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eyelab.psy.msu.edu (eyelab.psy.msu.edu [35.8.64.179]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA05467 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 11:39:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eyelab3.psy.msu.edu (eyelab3.psy.msu.edu [35.8.64.180]) by eyelab.psy.msu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA02544 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 14:36:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970513143821.0071ac20@eyelab.msu.edu> X-Sender: root@eyelab.msu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 14:38:21 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Gary Schrock Subject: Re: Undefined symbol "_login_getclass" In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19970513140758.006e8728@eyelab.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 02:07 PM 5/13/97 -0400, you wrote: >Ok, this probably results from me not paying quite enough attention to the >notes that have flowed by, but after doing a make world on my machine >(which was originally a 2.2-gamma, I honestly can't tell you exactly when I >had last make world on it, but I *think* it was about the 2.2-RELEASE time >period), I get the following lovely message when trying to log in: > >(null): warning: /usr/lib/libutil.so.2.1: minor version 1 older than >expected 2, using it anyway > >FreeBSD (eyelab.msu.edu) (ttyp0) > >(null): warning: /usr/lib/libutil.so.2.1: minor version 1 older than >expected 2, using it anyway >(null): Undefined symbol "_login_getclass" called from login:login at 0x6234 Eh, just realized that I didn't really indicate what I compiled TO. The source files that were being used for the make world were on the RELENG_2_2 branch, cvsup'd yesterday (May 5 97). Sorry about not including that in the previous note. Gary Schrock root@eyelab.msu.edu From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 11:40:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA05591 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 11:40:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jocki.domestic.de (kuebart.stuttgart.netsurf.de [194.233.216.182]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA05585 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 11:40:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from joki@localhost) by jocki.domestic.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA02995; Tue, 13 May 1997 20:32:36 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.0 [p0] on FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3377A81B.41C67EA6@dcc.uchile.cl> Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 18:36:01 +0200 (MET DST) From: Joachim Kuebart To: Jorge Cristian Gordillo Araneda Subject: RE: A question Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On 12-May-97 at 23:30:35 Jorge Cristian Gordillo Araneda wrote: >Hi, >I wanna know if exist a kind of suite for FreeBSD like MS Office, which >I can get applications for networks. I assume you want to be able to use them over networks? This is always possible with X Window applications. Files can always be shared over networks in UNIX using Network file systems (NFS). You can mount nfs-exported directories of a server on any client. I'm interested in Data Bases, >Worksheets and Word Processors. If they aren't freeware, can I know how >much are they? And where are the contacts? There is Applixware that costs money. Info is at www.applix.com/appware/appware.html www.redhat.com/products/apx.html There is also free StarOffice previews. Info is at www.stardiv.com Have Fun! > >Thanks a lot. > >Jorge Gordillo. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- For a world of pedigree OSs FreeBSD - top breeders recommend it Joachim Kuebart Tel: +49 711 653706 Germany From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 11:41:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA05665 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 11:41:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from d2si.com (macbeth.d2si.com [206.8.31.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA05654 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 11:41:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from alec@localhost) by d2si.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA03416; Tue, 13 May 1997 13:39:33 -0500 (CDT) From: Alec Kloss Message-Id: <199705131839.NAA03416@d2si.com> Subject: Re: Root logins... In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19970513135409.00914610@bl-mail1.corpeast.baynetworks.com> from Tom Kiblin at "May 13, 97 01:54:09 pm" To: Tom_Kiblin@BayNetworks.COM (Tom Kiblin) Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 13:39:33 -0500 (CDT) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Tom Kiblin is responsible for: > How does one enable Root logins from locations other than the console? I > just want to be able to telnet from any machine in our network and login as > root. > > I've changed the login.access in /etc, but it still doesn't work. > > Thanks, > Tom > > [stuff deleted] As I recall, you'll have to edit /etc/ttys and add "secure" after all the pseudo terminals. Personally, not allowing remote root logins is a nice security feature and I'd hesitate from disabling it. It is somewhat safer to login as whoever you actually are and then su to root. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 11:43:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA05764 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 11:43:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iceberg.anchorage.net. (root@iceberg.anchorage.net [207.14.72.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA05759 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 11:43:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aak.anchorage.net (ai-133 [207.14.72.133]) by iceberg.anchorage.net. (8.6.11/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA04129; Tue, 13 May 1997 09:39:20 -0800 Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 10:32:41 -0800 (AKDT) From: Steve Howe X-Sender: abc@aak.anchorage.net To: Tim Oneil cc: Steve Howe , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ed net card question In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19970513082752.009993c0@visigenic.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 13 May 1997, Tim Oneil wrote: > >> my exsisting 2.2.1 system wants to recognize as ed0. It > >NE2000 compatable (good) > Yeah, its an NE2000 compatible. > >> times out though after the system comes up, I suppose becuase i'm not quite sure what you mean by "timing out". i'm no expert, but the only way i can imagine anything timimg out is to have so many busy IRQs below the ethernet card that it can do anything in sufficient time. i guess at IRQ15, that might be possible! hehe! in general, you don't want any drives below any communication devices, or anything that hogs big chunks of time. > >you may need it to program the flash ... > Yep. The auto config in the installation program suggested IRQ 15 > which I thought was a little strange, but I selected it. > >BAD setting - will conflict with COM2 (oh, it's jumperable?) > Software config only, no jumpers. > >the pc has no UARTs on board? > Its an AMD bios 486 board. I have a serial card on it for serial > stuff. i guess that means no? > >> and it still timed out. I was wondering if there was an ideal > >> irq to use on the fresh 2.2.1 system? Does the dos config ware > >yeah, 5 or 7 - as long as you don't use your printer on one of those. > I don't, so I guess I'll try those. > >you should read more about this stuff. you will need to set up > >ARP, PPP, etc, etc. check out some of the Linux manuals ... you may like Network Administrators Guide (NAG) > I will, certainly. One thing though, I shouldn't see these time out > messages normally, should I? Fortunately, the fate of nations doesn't > ride on my getting this set up, its my own personal thing, I want > to set up an intranet at home. So I figure I'll make the timeout > messages go away first, and then start tinkering with protocols. > Si? > -Tim ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sleep: a sign a caffeine deprivation ... http://www.anchorage.net/~un_x ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 11:47:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA05971 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 11:47:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from odin.visigenic.com (odin.visigenic.com [204.179.98.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA05965 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 11:47:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from VSI48 (vsi48.visigenic.com [206.64.15.185]) by odin.visigenic.com (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA25137; Tue, 13 May 1997 11:47:08 -0700 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970513114709.009f7750@visigenic.com> X-Sender: toneil@visigenic.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 11:47:09 -0700 To: Steve Howe From: "Tim Oneil" Subject: Re: ed net card question Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Steave wrote: >i'm not quite sure what you mean by "timing out". i'm no expert, but the >only way i can imagine anything timimg out is to have so many busy IRQs >below the ethernet card that it can do anything in sufficient time. >i guess at IRQ15, that might be possible! hehe! in general, you don't >want any drives below any communication devices, or anything that hogs big >chunks of time. Well, after the system has been up for like three minutes or so I get a message on the console; device ed0 timed out. Then I get messages consisting of; Last message repeated 3 times thereafter. Over and over again. >> >the pc has no UARTs on board? >> Its an AMD bios 486 board. I have a serial card on it for serial >> stuff. > >i guess that means no? Heh. Yeah. Er, no. -Tim From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 11:47:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA06003 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 11:47:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sand.sentex.ca (sand.sentex.ca [206.222.77.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA05992 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 11:47:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gravel (gravel.sentex.ca [205.211.165.210]) by sand.sentex.ca (8.8.5/8.8.3) with SMTP id OAA03814; Tue, 13 May 1997 14:52:10 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970513145042.00c00da0@sentex.net> X-Sender: mdtancsa@sentex.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 14:50:42 -0400 To: Gary Schrock , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: Undefined symbol "_login_getclass" In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19970513140758.006e8728@eyelab.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 02:07 PM 5/13/97 -0400, Gary Schrock wrote: >Ok, this probably results from me not paying quite enough attention to the >notes that have flowed by, but after doing a make world on my machine >(which was originally a 2.2-gamma, I honestly can't tell you exactly when I >had last make world on it, but I *think* it was about the 2.2-RELEASE time >period), I get the following lovely message when trying to log in: > >(null): warning: /usr/lib/libutil.so.2.1: minor version 1 older than >expected 2, using it anyway > >FreeBSD (eyelab.msu.edu) (ttyp0) > >(null): warning: /usr/lib/libutil.so.2.1: minor version 1 older than >expected 2, using it anyway >(null): Undefined symbol "_login_getclass" called from login:login at 0x6234 > >Any ideas or suggestions on the best way to fix this problem? Pointers to >documentation about it maybe? Meanwhile, it does seem that the machine is >running fine other than that, since my mail is still going through it >nicely :). Do a search through the archives... I came across this on Sunday after a Make world overnight and a couple of people responded to my question on this maillist... To fix the problem go into single user mode, and copy cp /usr/src/etc/login.conf /etc/. It should fix that problem.... Looks like you can do some pretty funky things with the login.class stuff... ---Mike ********************************************************************** Mike Tancsa (mike@sentex.net) * To do is to be -- Nietzsche Sentex Communications Corp, * To be is to do -- Sartre Cambridge, Ontario * Do be do be do -- Sinatra (http://www.sentex.net/~mdtancsa) * From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 11:49:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA06270 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 11:49:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from odin.visigenic.com (odin.visigenic.com [204.179.98.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA06262 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 11:49:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from VSI48 (vsi48.visigenic.com [206.64.15.185]) by odin.visigenic.com (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA25337 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 11:49:28 -0700 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970513114928.009fc1c0@visigenic.com> X-Sender: toneil@visigenic.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 11:49:28 -0700 To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Tim Oneil" Subject: Re: fvwm2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 05:42 PM 5/13/97 +0200, you wrote: >The exact location of system.fvwm2rc is at: > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fvwm2/system.fvwm2rc > >THis is examined by fvwm2 by default if ~/.fvwm2rc does not exist. > >Have fun configuring! I managed to make X real usable (mouse & keyboard!!) after >some hours; it's overwhelming what you can control customizing this file :-) You are not kidding! I did find those examples after some one else sent the location of them. Man... choice overload on those options. -Tim From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 11:57:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA06594 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 11:57:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iceberg.anchorage.net. (root@iceberg.anchorage.net [207.14.72.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA06588 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 11:57:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aak.anchorage.net (ai-133 [207.14.72.133]) by iceberg.anchorage.net. (8.6.11/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA04207; Tue, 13 May 1997 09:54:00 -0800 Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 10:47:20 -0800 (AKDT) From: Steve Howe X-Sender: abc@aak.anchorage.net To: Bill Grunfelder cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: C compilation errors In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 13 May 1997, Bill Grunfelder wrote: when i have these problems, i "grep -R" the include directories ... however, with my meager install, i only find CCDF_LOCK ... > Can someone tell me (or point me in the right direction as to) what > (packages/ports/libraries/whatever) I'm missing that would result in > these errors when trying to compile a C program? > > m.c: In function `lockfile': > m.c:113: `F_LOCK' undeclared (first use this function) > m.c:113: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once > m.c:113: for each function it appears in.) > m.c: In function `unlockfile': > m.c:204: `F_ULOCK' undeclared (first use this function) ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sleep: a sign a caffeine deprivation ... http://www.anchorage.net/~un_x ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 12:12:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA07284 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 12:12:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.tseinc.com (gatekeeper.tseinc.com [206.114.206.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA07279 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 12:12:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by gatekeeper.tseinc.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA00249 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 14:12:54 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199705131912.OAA00249@gatekeeper.tseinc.com> X-Authentication-Warning: gatekeeper.tseinc.com: nobody set sender to using -f Received: from unknown(192.168.1.12) by gatekeeper.tseinc.com via smap (V1.3) id sma000245; Tue May 13 14:12:35 1997 From: "Jay L. West" To: Subject: tis fwtk & skey help needed.. Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 14:12:35 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am trying to setup the fwtk(1.3) from tis on Fbsd2.2.1. It's set up to proxy via plug, http, https, pop3, etc.. and all works very well. However, I wanted to use Skey for strong authentication from inbound sessions. I modified auth.h to tell it I wanted skey, and modified the Makefile to point SKEYINC at /usr/include and SKEYLIB at /usr/lib/libskey.a. Then I re-run make and it coughs about a lot of MD4 stuff being reference but not found. I know I figured this out a year or so ago when I did it on 2.1.5, but upgraded to 2.2.1 and can't remember how I got around this. If it matters, we don't have DES installed. Any help is *MOST* appreciated! Thanks! Jay West TSE ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Unix *IS* user friendly; It's just selective about who it's friends are! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 12:14:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA07348 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 12:14:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from andrsn.stanford.edu (root@andrsn.Stanford.EDU [36.33.0.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA07343 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 12:14:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (root@localhost.Stanford.EDU [127.0.0.1]) by andrsn.stanford.edu (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA18745 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 12:14:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 12:14:19 -0700 (PDT) From: "A. Anderson" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: pine 3.96 core dump Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I built pine 3.96 and installed it--and it core dumps (floating point exception) unless run as root. Would anyone know how to fix this? I suppose I could reinstall 3.94. Annelise From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 12:24:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA07931 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 12:24:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from train.tgci.com ([205.185.169.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA07926 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 12:24:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from emilyd ([206.250.85.68]) by train.tgci.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA03916; Tue, 13 May 1997 12:50:56 -0700 Message-Id: <199705131950.MAA03916@train.tgci.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Riley J. McIntire" To: Alec Kloss Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 12:22:53 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: (Fwd) (Fwd) File descriptors-do I have Bad Breath? Reply-to: chaos@tgci.com CC: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.42a) Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > From: Alec Kloss > Subject: Re: (Fwd) (Fwd) File descriptors-do I have Bad Breath? > To: chaos@tgci.com > Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 06:30:33 -0500 (CDT) > Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thanks Alec, it has helped! > > If you are not a C programmer, this will not make I'm not a C programmer, but can make some sense of it. > So no, bad file descriptors are not caused > (directly) by disks. In fact, you can get bad file > descriptor messages when working with non-disk > related things, such as sockets. It is much more > likely that you are hitting some configured-in limit > of your system. Try typing > limit Ok, this would make sense when I'm doing a new kernal. A lot of files are presumably involved and some sort of limit *might* come into effect. Although this system doesn't do much more than sit there serving one web page and sendmail/imap for one person, me. I can't try the "limit" command, I'm trying to upgrade to 2.2.1 right now. Been trying since Sun--wccdrom seems very slow! :( > > > > find: /usr/include/machine: Bad file descriptor > > find: /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_int/loop.c: Bad file descriptor > > find: /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_int/obstack.c: Bad file descriptor > > etc But why would this show up in syslog? From what I'm getting these should have disappeared after the failed kernal compile? Assuming no other process is accessing them. And fsck doesn't help. > > Hope this helps. I'd guess most people who read your first postings > assumed someone else would answer. > Again, thanks for the info. I was beginning to think I was contagious! :) Riley From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 12:27:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA08202 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 12:27:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sand.sentex.ca (sand.sentex.ca [206.222.77.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA08197 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 12:27:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gravel (gravel.sentex.ca [205.211.165.210]) by sand.sentex.ca (8.8.5/8.8.3) with SMTP id PAA03947; Tue, 13 May 1997 15:32:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970513153045.00c04290@sentex.net> X-Sender: mdtancsa@sentex.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 15:30:45 -0400 To: Gary Schrock , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: Undefined symbol "_login_getclass" (important RELENG_2_2 changes) In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19970513143821.0071ac20@eyelab.msu.edu> References: <3.0.1.32.19970513140758.006e8728@eyelab.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 02:38 PM 5/13/97 -0400, Gary Schrock wrote: >At 02:07 PM 5/13/97 -0400, you wrote: >>Ok, this probably results from me not paying quite enough attention to the >>notes that have flowed by, but after doing a make world on my machine >>(which was originally a 2.2-gamma, I honestly can't tell you exactly when I >>had last make world on it, but I *think* it was about the 2.2-RELEASE time >>period), I get the following lovely message when trying to log in: >> >>(null): warning: /usr/lib/libutil.so.2.1: minor version 1 older than >>expected 2, using it anyway >> >>FreeBSD (eyelab.msu.edu) (ttyp0) >> >>(null): warning: /usr/lib/libutil.so.2.1: minor version 1 older than >>expected 2, using it anyway >>(null): Undefined symbol "_login_getclass" called from login:login at 0x6234 > >Eh, just realized that I didn't really indicate what I compiled TO. The >source files that were being used for the make world were on the RELENG_2_2 >branch, cvsup'd yesterday (May 5 97). Yup, this is the one I had problems with.... Again, putting the /usr/src/etc/login.conf in /etc did the trick for me. To summarize what another person has pointed out For those tracking RELENG_2_2, I ran into some gotcha's recently: 1) Add mail to /etc/group so mtree can update /var/mail. 2) The shared lib libutil is bumped to a new version. 3) You won't be able to login to your computer if you don't have /etc/login.conf. ********************************************************************** Mike Tancsa (mike@sentex.net) * To do is to be -- Nietzsche Sentex Communications Corp, * To be is to do -- Sartre Cambridge, Ontario * Do be do be do -- Sinatra (http://www.sentex.net/~mdtancsa) * From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 12:35:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA08703 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 12:35:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kagg2.kagg.gy-edu.kalmar.se (www.kagg.gy-edu.kalmar.se [193.45.113.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA08696 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 12:35:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from muton (du121-90.ppp.algonet.se [195.100.90.121]) by kagg2.kagg.gy-edu.kalmar.se (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id VAA08503; Tue, 13 May 1997 21:33:08 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 21:35:28 +0200 (CEST) From: Lars Jorgensen X-Sender: root@muton To: Tim Oneil cc: Steve Howe , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ed net card question In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19970513114709.009f7750@visigenic.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk /Lars Jorgensen Student On Tue, 13 May 1997, Tim Oneil wrote: > Steave wrote: > >i'm not quite sure what you mean by "timing out". i'm no expert, but the > >only way i can imagine anything timimg out is to have so many busy IRQs > >below the ethernet card that it can do anything in sufficient time. > >i guess at IRQ15, that might be possible! hehe! in general, you don't > >want any drives below any communication devices, or anything that hogs big > >chunks of time. > > Well, after the system has been up for like three minutes or so I > get a message on the console; device ed0 timed out. > Then I get messages consisting of; Last message repeated 3 times > thereafter. Over and over again. > > >> >the pc has no UARTs on board? > >> Its an AMD bios 486 board. I have a serial card on it for serial > >> stuff. > > > >i guess that means no? > > Heh. Yeah. Er, no. > > -Tim Do you have the networkcard hocked into a LAN? I hade the same problem the only thing I did to solve it was I booted with -c and then disabled the card From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 12:47:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA09439 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 12:47:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eyelab.psy.msu.edu (eyelab.psy.msu.edu [35.8.64.179]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA09431 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 12:47:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eyelab3.psy.msu.edu (eyelab3.psy.msu.edu [35.8.64.180]) by eyelab.psy.msu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA00389 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 15:43:43 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970513154602.007190e8@eyelab.msu.edu> X-Sender: root@eyelab.msu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 15:46:02 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Gary Schrock Subject: Solved: Re: Undefined symbol "_login_getclass" In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19970513145042.00c00da0@sentex.net> References: <3.0.1.32.19970513140758.006e8728@eyelab.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 02:50 PM 5/13/97 -0400, you wrote: >Do a search through the archives... I came across this on Sunday after a >Make world overnight and a couple of people responded to my question on >this maillist... To fix the problem go into single user mode, and copy >cp /usr/src/etc/login.conf /etc/. Whelp, thanks to Mike I did manage to resolve this. I had vaguely remembered seeing this thread recently and had copied the login.conf file over. I think my problem might have been that ldconfig hadn't been run (does make world actaully run this?). Rebooting the machine allowed everything to come up nicely. Now, on another issue, is there any place that this type of thing is documented? It would seem to me that *something* needs to be in place to alert people of these types of changes, and I don't really think the mailing lists is the appropiate something, but rather something along the lines of a file in the root of /usr/src that gets updated when something significant like this changes that points you to what you need to do. Gary Schrock root@eyelab.msu.edu From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 13:00:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA10108 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 13:00:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jocki.domestic.de (kuebart.stuttgart.netsurf.de [194.233.216.182]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA10093 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 13:00:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from joki@localhost) by jocki.domestic.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA03149; Tue, 13 May 1997 22:00:07 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.0 [p0] on FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 20:42:36 +0200 (MET DST) From: Joachim Kuebart To: Cliff Addy Subject: RE: undoing an ip alias Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi. 'Course there is. Do ifconfig ed0 123.456.789.1 delete will remove the specified address from the specified interface. c u Jo On 13-May-97 at 16:39:10 Cliff Addy wrote: >We're migrating many virtual webite domains from one physical server to >another. As far as I know, the only way to make the old server stop >listening to the ip addresses is to reboot it. However, as you can >imagine, these multiple reboots (and subsequent down time) aren't >desireable. > >Is there a way to "undo" an ip alias, i.e. tell the system "Stop >responding to this ip address you have as an alias"? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- For a world of pedigree OSs FreeBSD - top breeders recommend it Joachim Kuebart Tel: +49 711 653706 Germany From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 13:17:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA10874 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 13:17:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mtigwc04.worldnet.att.net (mailhost.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA10869 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 13:17:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from LOCALNAME ([207.147.168.91]) by mtigwc04.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with SMTP id AAA15446 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 20:16:36 +0000 Message-ID: <3378CC57.15E0@worldnet.att.net> Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 13:17:27 -0700 From: "Jeffrey J. Ayres" Organization: independent X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@Freebsd.org Subject: starting fvwm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@Freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, Installation of the window manager program fvwm95 is not working. The error message in the -xsession-errors file Fvwm-95: in function Read: <>file ' .fvwm95rc' not found in $HOME or /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fvwm95 Fvwm-95:in function Read: trying to read system rc file Fvwm-95: in function Read:<> file 'system.fvwm95rc' not found in $HOME or /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fvwm95 The symptoms are after logging in X then a blank screen (actually grey and white) shows up. After clicking the right mouse button a button box appears with default menu and exit. Moving the mouse around on the desktop did not locate the window. The file 'system.fvwm95rc was listed in both the $HOME directory and the /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fvwm95 file. The permissions for 'system.fvwm95rc' include r for o,g,u. I could not locate a .fvwm95rc file in either $HOME or the X11 library file. FreeBSD version 2.2.1 The /etc/rc.local file has the command /usr/X11R6/bin/xdm && echo -n ' xdm' The .xsession file has the commands ~/.profile TZ=MST7MDT fvwm95 How can I get the fvwm to open a window? Jeff Ayres From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 13:18:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA11055 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 13:18:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de (helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de [141.31.166.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA11050 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 13:18:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from helbig@localhost) by helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA28408; Tue, 13 May 1997 22:18:13 +0200 (MET DST) From: Wolfgang Helbig Message-Id: <199705132018.WAA28408@helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de> Subject: Re: Undefined symbol "_login_getclass" In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19970513140758.006e8728@eyelab.msu.edu> from Gary Schrock at "May 13, 97 02:07:58 pm" To: root@eyelab.psy.msu.edu (Gary Schrock) Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 22:18:13 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL30 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Ok, this probably results from me not paying quite enough attention to the > notes that have flowed by, but after doing a make world on my machine > (which was originally a 2.2-gamma, I honestly can't tell you exactly when I > had last make world on it, but I *think* it was about the 2.2-RELEASE time > period), I get the following lovely message when trying to log in: > > (null): warning: /usr/lib/libutil.so.2.1: minor version 1 older than > expected 2, using it anyway > > FreeBSD (eyelab.msu.edu) (ttyp0) > > (null): warning: /usr/lib/libutil.so.2.1: minor version 1 older than > expected 2, using it anyway > (null): Undefined symbol "_login_getclass" called from login:login at 0x6234 > > Any ideas or suggestions on the best way to fix this problem? Pointers to > documentation about it maybe? Meanwhile, it does seem that the machine is > running fine other than that, since my mail is still going through it > nicely :). The libutil.so minor version probably changed from one to two in the meantime. So you should have libutil.so.2.2 in /usr/lib. Do a # ldconfig -m to let the loader know about the change and try again to log in. You also might want to update your /etc directory manually from /usr/src/etc. Wolfgang From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 13:20:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA11190 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 13:20:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sand.sentex.ca (sand.sentex.ca [206.222.77.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA11184 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 13:20:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gravel (gravel.sentex.ca [205.211.165.210]) by sand.sentex.ca (8.8.5/8.8.3) with SMTP id QAA04105 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 16:24:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970513162328.00ab1200@sentex.net> X-Sender: mdtancsa@sentex.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 16:23:28 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Documenting major config changes (was Re: Solved: Re: Undefined symbol "_login_getclass") In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19970513154602.007190e8@eyelab.msu.edu> References: <3.0.1.32.19970513145042.00c00da0@sentex.net> <3.0.1.32.19970513140758.006e8728@eyelab.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Now, on another issue, is there any place that this type of thing is >documented? Apart from following the mailling lists, I wonder if including something in the /usr/src/ tree as a part of CVSUP process to document these things (or is it already there)... For example, a file like /usr/src/readme.manual_changes or something similar ? The file would contain any information about what manually needs to be done, or any potential 'gotchas'. I know there was a big thread about the rc.conf changes, but its still easy to miss a lot if you dont have a lot of time to read every post... ---Mike ********************************************************************** Mike Tancsa (mike@sentex.net) * To do is to be -- Nietzsche Sentex Communications Corp, * To be is to do -- Sartre Cambridge, Ontario * Do be do be do -- Sinatra (http://www.sentex.net/~mdtancsa) * From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 13:36:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA11909 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 13:36:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from caliban.dihelix.com (caliban.dihelix.com [198.180.136.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA11904 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 13:36:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from langfod@localhost) by caliban.dihelix.com (8.8.5/8.8.3) id KAA05484; Tue, 13 May 1997 10:35:42 -1000 (HST) Message-Id: <199705132035.KAA05484@caliban.dihelix.com> Subject: Re: undoing an ip alias In-Reply-To: from Joachim Kuebart at "May 13, 97 08:42:36 pm" To: joki@kuebart.stuttgart.netsurf.de (Joachim Kuebart) Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 10:35:41 -1000 (HST) Cc: fbsdlist@federation.addy.com, questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "David Langford" X-blank-line: This space intentionaly left blank. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Wrong, this will blow away your primary interface. If you have an alias you need to delete using the EXACT same netmask that you created the alias with SO if you used: ifconfig ed0 123.456.789.1 netmask 255.255.255.255 alias you need to do ifconfig ed0 123.456.789.1 netmask 255.255.255.255 delete -David Langford langfod@dihelix.com >'Course there is. Do > ifconfig ed0 123.456.789.1 delete >will remove the specified address from the specified interface. > >On 13-May-97 at 16:39:10 Cliff Addy wrote: >>We're migrating many virtual webite domains from one physical server to >>another. As far as I know, the only way to make the old server stop >>listening to the ip addresses is to reboot it. However, as you can >>imagine, these multiple reboots (and subsequent down time) aren't >>desireable. >> >>Is there a way to "undo" an ip alias, i.e. tell the system "Stop >>responding to this ip address you have as an alias"? From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 13:40:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA12239 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 13:40:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mother.cdrom.com (mother.cdrom.com [204.216.28.172]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA12233 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 13:40:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (support@localhost) by mother.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA14899 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 13:38:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: mother.cdrom.com: support owned process doing -bs Delivery-Date: Fri, 09 May 1997 09:00:07 -0700 X-Received: from pooh.cdrom.com (pooh.cdrom.com [204.216.28.222]) by mother.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA08484 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 09:00:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: from easynet.fr (qmailr@[195.114.64.207]) by pooh.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA24674 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 09:00:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: (qmail 7185 invoked from network); 9 May 1997 16:29:54 -0000 X-Received: from max1-paris-24.easynet.fr (HELO EasyH?te.easynet.fr) (195.114.92.24) by mail.easynet.fr with SMTP; 9 May 1997 16:29:54 -0000 Message-ID: <33734981.5CB8@easynet.fr> Date: Fri, 09 May 1997 17:57:53 +0200 From: Gil PEREZ X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: support@cdrom.com Subject: (no subject) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ReSent-Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 13:38:51 -0700 (PDT) ReSent-From: "Christopher G. Mann" ReSent-To: questions@freebsd.org ReSent-Message-ID: Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I have a problem to install FreeBSD 2.1.6 on my computer. The problem is located to the Choose Installation Media. I have a Hitachi CDR-8130. So it is unsupported. So i tried to install via DOS (option 4) Before to do that i copied the \bin into c:\freebsd\bin The message is : No DOS primary partitions found. So i tried the 6 option, install from an existing filesystem; Error, "No root device" ... What is wrong ? Me i think ... Gil P. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 14:03:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA13979 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 14:03:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA13971; Tue, 13 May 1997 14:03:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id OAA10251; Tue, 13 May 1997 14:03:25 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Prev-Resent: Tue, 13 May 1997 14:03:25 -0700 Prev-Resent: "questions@freebsd.org darrenr@freebsd.org" Received: from mailgate1.boeing.com ([130.42.28.16]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA09914 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 13:05:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cutter.ds.boeing.com by mailgate1.boeing.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA24312; Tue, 13 May 1997 13:04:46 -0700 Received: from titon.bloom-county by cutter.ds.boeing.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA28389; Tue, 13 May 1997 13:04:23 -0700 Received: by titon.bloom-county (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA20152; Tue, 13 May 1997 13:04:14 -0700 Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 13:04:14 -0700 Message-Id: <199705132004.NAA20152@titon.bloom-county> To: jkh@time.cdrom.com Subject: Proxy arp with NAT and ip-filter Resent-To: questions@freebsd.org Resent-cc: darrenr@freebsd.org Resent-Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 14:03:25 -0700 Resent-Message-ID: <10248.863557405@time.cdrom.com> Resent-From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have a strange setup (maybe not)... I have three high speed interfaces on an Sparc Enterprise 6000 (hme0,1,2)... Hme0&1 are hooked to a PRIVATE subnet: hme0 - 192.168.10.0 - 255.255.255.0 (PRIVATE) hme1 - 192.168.20.0 - 255.255.255.0 (PRIVATE) hme2 - 134.52.23.0 - 255.255.255.0 (PUBLIC) The PUBLIC interface is NOT the internet, its boeing internal INTRAnet... I set up NAT so that a node under hme0, say 192.168.10.104 ALSO has a public address like 134.52.23.129... SO, in ipnat.conf I have: ipnat.conf: ---------- map hme2 192.168.10.103/32 -> 134.52.23.129/32 ipf.conf: --------- pass in proto ip all pass in proto icmp all pass in proto ggp all pass in proto tcp all pass in proto egp all pass in proto pup all pass in proto udp all pass in proto hmp all pass in proto xns-idp all pass in proto rdp all In other words... Let EVERYTHING in! I'm also doing a proxy arp (in.arpd is running) using: arp -s 134.52.23.129 8:0:20:80:3c:36 pub The ether address is that of the Enterprise. The public ip of the Enterprise is 134.52.23.137... Here is my ifconfig -a: enterprise{root}(/etc/opt/CYBSipf) 59: ifconfig -a lo0: flags=849 mtu 8232 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask ff000000 hme0: flags=863 mtu 1500 inet 192.168.10.1 netmask ffffff00 broadcast 192.168.10.255 ether 8:0:20:80:3c:36 hme1: flags=863 mtu 1500 inet 192.168.20.1 netmask ffffff00 broadcast 192.168.20.255 ether 8:0:20:80:3c:36 hme2: flags=863 mtu 1500 inet 134.52.23.137 netmask ffffff00 broadcast 134.52.23.255 ether 8:0:20:80:3c:36 enterprise{root}(/etc/opt/CYBSipf) With the above, EVERYTHING works perfect (almost)... I can ping, telnet, from the 192.168.10.103 node and all ip traffic coming out of the enterprises hme2 interface is mapped correctly. As long as a the 192.168.10.103 INITIATES traffic, other PUBLIC nodes can respond directly to the 192.168.10.103 using its public 134.52.23.129 address... However, if a PUBLIC node INITIATES traffic to the private node using its public address (134.52.23.129), nothing works. Seems like whenever the active socket is closed (i.e. npnat -l) it won't work. I KNOW that the proxy arp is working, because if I'm on a public node (on the 134.52.23) subnet, and do: traceroute 134.52.23.129 The enterprise is answering and trying to service forward the connection. I have in.routed -s running on the enterprise (even tried to turn it off) and I have ip_forwarding turned on. I even opened up the ipf.conf file to every thing (as shown above)... I'm not part of this list (yet), although I thought I submitted it a long time ago... Please respond directly. Any suggestions would be welcome!!! Thanks in advance. Mike Zakharoff Boeing Defense & Space Group zak@cutter.ds.boeing.com From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 14:04:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA14117 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 14:04:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from happy.firstnethou.com (happy.firstnethou.com [206.42.12.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA14055 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 14:03:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ballhog by happy.firstnethou.com via SMTP (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1042/940406.SGI) for id QAA24816; Tue, 13 May 1997 16:03:55 -0500 Message-ID: <3378D926.1193@firstnethou.com> Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 16:12:06 -0500 From: ballhog Reply-To: ballhog@firstnethou.com Organization: Ballhog Sports X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, i wsa told about your FreeBSD software by someone i met on the net. I didn't exactly find the information i was looking for while reading your FAQ's and About FreeBSD, pages, and was wondering if you could help clear a few things up. I am currently running Win95, what i would like to know is, why would i want to change OS's? I know win95 has some quirks, but i also know it worked fine. I would also like to know, would FreeBSD be able to run normal dos based software, i am assuming it won't since it is UNIX based. If it can't, then what exactly should i get FreeBSD for? This is my situation, i am ALLWAYS on the net, i'n sort of hooked. I also play lot's of games via network card with my roomate, ie... Warcraft, Diablo' Domm etc.. etc.. I would like to remain able to connect to the internet and run Netscape etc... and play those games etc... and i just bought a Connectix Quickcam for use with CuSeeMe, so i would really like to continue enjoying these things. Can FreeBSD do any of this? and in your honest opinion, should i trash Win95 and go with FreeBSD? I'm open-minded, i'll try anything if it will work with all the things i like to do. Thanx' for your help. Gene Faull From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 14:04:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA14215 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 14:04:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mother.cdrom.com (mother.cdrom.com [204.216.28.172]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA14207 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 14:04:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (support@localhost) by mother.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA15388 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 14:02:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: mother.cdrom.com: support owned process doing -bs Delivery-Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 15:47:31 -0700 X-Received: from pooh.cdrom.com (pooh.cdrom.com [204.216.28.222]) by mother.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA04299 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 15:47:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: from mail.inficad.com (root@mail.inficad.com [207.19.74.5]) by pooh.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA06977 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 15:47:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: from default (knup@is.a.leet.ass.mofo.org [207.19.74.84]) by mail.inficad.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA11004 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 15:47:50 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199705102247.PAA11004@mail.inficad.com> Reply-To: From: "knup" To: Subject: FreeBSD Help Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 15:51:32 -0600 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ReSent-Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 14:02:32 -0700 (PDT) ReSent-From: "Christopher G. Mann" ReSent-To: questions@freebsd.org ReSent-Message-ID: Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello I recently purcahsed FreeBSD 2.2.1 from you, Im having some trouble getting pppd support with the kernel. This says that the kernel on here has built in PPPD support but i can not find a trace of it, I've looked for it when you setup your kernel, But it is not their. Please help me! Also When I attempt to install the ports, it always freezes causing me to have to reboot my computer and reinstall everything again. Thanks alot -Nadine Demarest From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 14:07:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA14500 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 14:07:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mother.cdrom.com (mother.cdrom.com [204.216.28.172]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA14495 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 14:07:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (support@localhost) by mother.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA15500 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 14:05:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: mother.cdrom.com: support owned process doing -bs Delivery-Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 16:57:05 -0700 X-Received: from pooh.cdrom.com (pooh.cdrom.com [204.216.28.222]) by mother.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA06706 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 16:57:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: from ormail.intel.com (ormail.intel.com [134.134.248.3]) by pooh.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA11235 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 16:57:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: from ichips.intel.com (ichips.intel.com [134.134.50.200]) by ormail.intel.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id QAA13475 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 16:58:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: from ichips.intel.com by ichips.intel.com (8.7.4/jIII) id QAA03469; Sun, 11 May 1997 16:58:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705112358.QAA03469@ichips.intel.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 X-url: http://www-md6.intel.com/~aamirich To: support@cdrom.com cc: aamirich@ichips.intel.com Subject: Mouse Driver Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 16:58:19 -0700 From: Abbas AmiriChimeh ReSent-Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 14:05:13 -0700 (PDT) ReSent-From: "Christopher G. Mann" ReSent-To: questions@freebsd.org ReSent-Message-ID: Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Dear Customer Support Agent: Recently, I bought FreeBSD CD-Rom and installed it on my machine. I have a Pentium-Pro 150MHz with a Venus Motherboard, ps/2 type mouse connector. I have difficulties with installing the mouse. I got a ps/2 Logitech Mouseman. When system reboots and probes the hardware on my machine, it reports: "mse0 IRQ 5 0X23c, mouse not probed", and as the result, I can't install my mouse in FreeX86 setup. Would you please guide me how to install my mouse? Thanks. Regards, Abbas Amiri From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 14:07:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA14563 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 14:07:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de (helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de [141.31.166.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA14555 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 14:07:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from helbig@localhost) by helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA09233; Tue, 13 May 1997 23:06:09 +0200 (MET DST) From: Wolfgang Helbig Message-Id: <199705132106.XAA09233@helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de> Subject: Re: CDROM can not be found In-Reply-To: from Joachim Kuebart at "May 13, 97 07:02:54 pm" To: joki@kuebart.stuttgart.netsurf.de (Joachim Kuebart) Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 23:06:08 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: yaning@shell.dave-world.net, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL30 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Hi! > > On 13-May-97 at 01:00:42 Yaning Wang wrote: > > > >My CD is connected with a soundcard (Matshita CDROM/Panasonic Drive CR-563), > >however, it is supported by FreeBSD 2.2.1 according to The Complete FreeBSD > >(Walnut Creek CDROM). But it just can not be recognized. Each time during the > > I blieve this is correct -- CDROMs on sound cards are supported by FreeBSD, but > not by the GENERIC kernel used by sysinstall -- P-p-please d-d-don't guillotine > me if I'm wrong, g-g-guys! Ok Joachim, you see the guillotine over there? The Matsushita CDROM is supported by the GENERIC kernel -- But there are some idiosyncrasis to it that are addressed in the FAQ section of HARDWARE.TXT on the CD. > > >installation, whenever I chose CDROM as the installation medium, the error > >message says: CD-ROM can not be found. (I bootup from DOS and launch the > >installation from the CD-ROM). Therefore, I was forced to divid my 2nd HD > >as two partitions inorder to use DOS partition to install (which works). > > Good. > > >The problem is the 2nd disk is too small and I do not know how to reclaim > >the DOS partition (I want use whole 2nd disk for FreeBSD). The bigger > > Hmmm. Do you want to use the spare partition for /usr? Or /? or /var? If not, > where do you want to mount it? Well, I'll leave that to you. > > In order to make a FreeBSD file system on the spare partition use > fdisk wd1 > and set the sysid in question to 165 (FreeBSD). Two objections: It is generally a bad idea to have to FreeBSD slices on one disk. Some software in the bootblocks don't handle them well. I guess it is easier to use /stand/sysinstall to reconfigure the disk. Do a # /stand/sysinstall after installation and select `7 Custom' from the main menu. From the custom installation menu select `2 Partition' to reconfigure the slices and `3 Label' to allocate the partitions. (In FreeBSD jargon a disk is cut into `slices' and each slice that is used for FreeBSD is cut into `partitions', in the rest of the world `slices' are called `partitions') Wolfgang From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 14:27:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA15920 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 14:27:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iconz.co.nz (iconz.co.nz [202.14.100.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA15913 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 14:27:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from news.iconz.co.nz (status.gen.nz [202.14.100.1]) by iconz.co.nz (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id JAA11889; Wed, 14 May 1997 09:27:34 +1200 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by news.iconz.co.nz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with UUCP id JAA17139; Wed, 14 May 1997 09:22:07 +1200 Received: (from jonc@localhost) by kiwi.pinnacle.co.nz (8.8.3/8.8.3) id JAA00693; Wed, 14 May 1997 09:07:13 +1200 (NZST) Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 09:07:13 +1200 (NZST) From: To: Nadav Eiron cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.1.7 and COMPAT_43 In-Reply-To: <33782627.7FD0@barcode.co.il> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 13 May 1997, Nadav Eiron wrote: > jonc@pinnacle.co.nz wrote: > > > > Hmm, > > > > Just tried recompiling a kernel for 2.1.7, and removed the COMPAT_43 > > option from the list. Upon rebooting, login behaves slightly strangely: > > Why did you remove COMPAT_43? It's one of the things that's not meant to > be removed from the kernel config file (as the comment states). Most > noteably it breaks xterm. The kernel config files do *NOT* say that its a required option (in either GENERIC or LINT); they need updating if that's the case. And as to why, just fooling around with how small a kernel I can get that still boots and works.. -- Jonathan Chen e-mail : jonc@pinnacle.co.nz Pinnacle Software Ltd Voice : +64.9.415.4460 Auckland, New Zealand Fax : +64.9.415.4250 From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 14:29:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA16027 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 14:29:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns.dsms.com (hbarker@dsms.marc.com [192.133.123.232]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA16019 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 14:29:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from hbarker@localhost) by ns.dsms.com (8.8.5/8.8.4) id OAA04187; Tue, 13 May 1997 14:29:03 -0700 (PDT) From: harold barker Message-Id: <199705132129.OAA04187@ns.dsms.com> Subject: ~200meg of shared mem To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 14:29:03 -0700 (PDT) Cc: hbarker@ns.dsms.com (harold barker) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I need a little help getting 64 process use ~ 212meg of shared memory. Could someone supply me with the correct values for my kernel config file. Or point me at a doc that explains what all the SHM* options real do. Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 14:37:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA16598 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 14:37:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.cdrom.com [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA16593 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 14:37:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netcom20.netcom.com (stanb@netcom20.netcom.com [192.100.81.133]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA01304 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 14:36:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from stanb@localhost) by netcom20.netcom.com (8.6.13/Netcom) id RAA03533; Tue, 13 May 1997 17:37:41 -0400 From: stanb@netcom.com (Stan Brown) Message-Id: <199705132137.RAA03533@netcom20.netcom.com> Subject: Anyone Gotten Hylafax version 4 to compile under FreeBSD? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.com (Free BSD Questions list) Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 17:37:41 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am trying to get Hylafax (a fax client/server package) to compile under FreeBSD 2.2R Has anyone manged to get this working? There is a port for version 3, but I can't find the source for V3, so I compiled V$ on the client machines (non- FreebSD0. Unfortunately it does not appear to be posible to use V4 clients with a V3 server. I would hate to have to move the modem from my FreebSD box, since the networking works so well on it. How would I go about contacting the port mintainer for this ? -- Stan Brown stanb@netcom.com 404-996-6955 Factory Automation Systems Atlanta Ga. -- Look, look, see Windows 95. Buy, lemmings, buy! Pay no attention to that cliff ahead... Henry Spencer (c) 1997 Stan Brown. Redistribution via the Microsoft Network is prohibited. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 14:40:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA16742 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 14:40:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from train.tgci.com ([205.185.169.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA16715 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 14:39:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from emilyd ([206.250.85.68]) by train.tgci.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA04665; Tue, 13 May 1997 15:06:52 -0700 Message-Id: <199705132206.PAA04665@train.tgci.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Riley J. McIntire" To: Alec Kloss Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 14:38:49 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: (Fwd) (Fwd) File descriptors-do I have Bad Breath? Reply-to: chaos@tgci.com CC: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.42a) Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > From: Alec Kloss > Subject: Re: (Fwd) (Fwd) File descriptors-do I have Bad Breath? > To: chaos@tgci.com > Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 14:39:09 -0500 (CDT) > Riley J. McIntire is responsible for: > [stuff deleted] > > Thanks Alec, it has helped! > No problem. > > > > > > > > > > find: /usr/include/machine: Bad file descriptor > > > > find: /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_int/loop.c: Bad file descriptor > > > > find: /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_int/obstack.c: Bad file descriptor > > > > etc > > > > But why would this show up in syslog? From what I'm getting these > > should have disappeared after the failed kernal compile? Assuming no > > other process is accessing them. And fsck doesn't help. > > Are you saying that these errors from find are showing up in > /var/log/messages, not while you are running find yourself? If so, > I've got a theory, but looking into the source for find I don't know > if I could prove it. My theory is that, periodically, if you system > is like mine, it runs a script > /usr/libexec/locate.updatedb > which updates the database the locate(1) program uses. > locate.updatedb(8) is a bourne shell script that uses the find(1) > program to scan your filesystem, archiving names of the files it > finds. This may be why messages from find are showing up unprovoked. > It's just a theory though. > That makes sense. The above shows up in the security log output in my email, and (I'm still in the middle of upgrading) I suppose in /var/log/messages--I haven't checked. But it appeared after the failed kernal compile. And it looks like and acts (with fsck) like some "bad file descriptors" messages I got about files in lost+found about a month ago. fsck wouldn't fix 'em, I couldn't delete them, and to get rid of 'em I had to clri (clear inodes) individually and then fsck them. Something seems to be damaging the files, and then this message appears. And from what you tell me it doesn't really look like a bad disk should generate this type of message. Anyway, assuming the upgrade goes ok I'll do more testing on the disk for physical damage. Ciao, Riley From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 14:59:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA18840 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 14:59:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from narcissus.ml.org (root@brosenga.Pitzer.edu [134.173.120.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA18835 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 14:59:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (ben@localhost) by narcissus.ml.org (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA23934; Tue, 13 May 1997 14:59:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 14:59:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Snob Art Genre To: ballhog cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <3378D926.1193@firstnethou.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk FreeBSD doesn't do DOS programs. There is some DOS emulation software out there but I don't think it's up to running Diablo or Warcraft. If you're really curious about FreeBSD, you can set up your computer so you can run either Win95 or FreeBSD depending how you feel when you boot it. FreeBSD doesn't do DOS stuff better than DOS does. It just does everything else better. We do have Netscape, and a Quickcam driver. On Tue, 13 May 1997, ballhog wrote: > Hello, i wsa told about your FreeBSD software by someone i met on the > net. I didn't exactly find the information i was looking for while > reading your FAQ's and About FreeBSD, pages, and was wondering if you > could help clear a few things up. > > I am currently running Win95, what i would like to know is, why would i > want to change OS's? I know win95 has some quirks, but i also know it > worked fine. > > I would also like to know, would FreeBSD be able to run normal dos based > software, i am assuming it won't since it is UNIX based. If it can't, > then what exactly should i get FreeBSD for? > > This is my situation, i am ALLWAYS on the net, i'n sort of hooked. I > also play lot's of games via network card with my roomate, ie... > Warcraft, Diablo' Domm etc.. etc.. I would like to remain able to > connect to the internet and run Netscape etc... and play those games > etc... and i just bought a Connectix Quickcam for use with CuSeeMe, so i > would really like to continue enjoying these things. > > Can FreeBSD do any of this? and in your honest opinion, should i trash > Win95 and go with FreeBSD? I'm open-minded, i'll try anything if it > will work with all the things i like to do. > > Thanx' for your help. > > Gene Faull > Ben "You have your mind on computers, it seems." From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 15:06:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA19485 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 15:06:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (root@agora.rdrop.com [199.2.210.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA19476 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 15:06:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rosie.scsn.net (scsn.net [206.25.246.12]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA26499 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 15:01:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cola68.scsn.net ([206.25.247.68]) by rosie.scsn.net (Post.Office MTA v3.0 release 0121 ID# 0-32322U5000L100S10000) with ESMTP id AAA128 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 17:55:19 -0400 Received: (from root@localhost) by cola68.scsn.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) id SAA01347; Tue, 13 May 1997 18:01:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19970513180141.36385@cola68.scsn.net> Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 18:01:41 -0400 From: "Donald J. Maddox" To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.1.7 and COMPAT_43 References: <33782627.7FD0@barcode.co.il> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: ; from jonc@pinnacle.co.nz on Wed, May 14, 1997 at 09:07:13AM +1200 Reply-To: dmaddox@scsn.net Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, May 14, 1997 at 09:07:13AM +1200, jonc@pinnacle.co.nz wrote: > On Tue, 13 May 1997, Nadav Eiron wrote: > > > jonc@pinnacle.co.nz wrote: > > > > > > Hmm, > > > > > > Just tried recompiling a kernel for 2.1.7, and removed the COMPAT_43 > > > option from the list. Upon rebooting, login behaves slightly strangely: > > > > Why did you remove COMPAT_43? It's one of the things that's not meant to > > be removed from the kernel config file (as the comment states). Most > > noteably it breaks xterm. > > The kernel config files do *NOT* say that its a required option (in either > GENERIC or LINT); they need updating if that's the case. > > And as to why, just fooling around with how small a kernel I can get > that still boots and works.. This raises a question that I have often wondered about: Why are *required* parts of the system listed in the config file as _options_? I mean, if it's _required_, then it's *not* an _option_; and if it's an option, it's not required, right? It seems to me that this just serves to confuse new users. Why not remove these "required options" and include required functionality unconditionally? -- Donald J. Maddox (dmaddox@scsn.net) From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 15:08:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA19893 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 15:08:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ridge.spiritone.com (ridge.spiritone.com [205.139.108.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA19885 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 15:08:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from joes.users.spiritone.com (joes.users.spiritone.com [205.139.111.224]) by ridge.spiritone.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA30943 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 15:04:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from joes@localhost) by joes.users.spiritone.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA17606 for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 13 May 1997 15:07:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Joseph Stein Message-Id: <199705132207.PAA17606@joes.users.spiritone.com> Subject: A comical suggestion for whomever/whenever/whatever... To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 15:07:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31H (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk How about this? After 2.2 is done, and the majority of development work is on 3.0, how about adding some field to the packages databse (/var/db/pkg) that indicates whether a package/port was added as a package or a port, and then as a part of the 'make world' process, any packages added as ports would be recompiled... Would this be a good thing (my naieve mind says yes), or not, and why? joe From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 15:53:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA22316 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 15:53:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hudsucker.gamespot.com (hudsucker.gamespot.com [206.169.18.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA22311 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 15:53:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jsd@localhost) by hudsucker.gamespot.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA02473; Tue, 13 May 1997 15:53:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 15:53:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705132253.PAA02473@hudsucker.gamespot.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Random Junk To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: memory usage X-Mailer: VM 6.26 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk can someone explain this top output to me? Mem: 64M Active, 23M Inact, 21M Wired, 15M Cache, 8332K Buf, 176K Free Swap: 262M Total, 42M Used, 220M Free, 16% Inuse am i out of memory or not? i ask because this machine is a busy ftp server and i want to know if i can safely let more people log in. right now it has reached its maximum simultaneous download ceiling. what's the difference between Inact and Free? and what does "wired" mean? please use words of one syllable or less, i am pretty ignorant of freebsd memory management issues. (a pointer to a good book or web page would be appreciated as well.) -- Jon Drukman jsd@gamespot.com SpotMedia Communications How the drunk and the maimed both are dragged forward out of the arena like a boneless Christ, one man under each arm, feet dragging, eyes on the aether. (David Foster Wallace/Infinite Jest) From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 16:19:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA23350 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 16:19:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.cdrom.com [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA23344 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 16:19:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from caliban.dihelix.com (caliban.dihelix.com [198.180.136.138]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA02422 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 16:18:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from langfod@localhost) by caliban.dihelix.com (8.8.5/8.8.3) id NAA06200; Tue, 13 May 1997 13:18:54 -1000 (HST) Message-Id: <199705132318.NAA06200@caliban.dihelix.com> Subject: Re: Anyone Gotten Hylafax version 4 to compile under FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: <199705132137.RAA03533@netcom20.netcom.com> from Stan Brown at "May 13, 97 05:37:41 pm" To: stanb@netcom.com (Stan Brown) Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 13:18:54 -1000 (HST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.com, ports@freebsd.org From: "David Langford" X-blank-line: This space intentionaly left blank. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I am trying to get Hylafax (a fax client/server package) to compile > under FreeBSD 2.2R I recently got V4 working without too many problems. You need to get a recent version of the tiff libraries. The one in ports wont work. For some reason the configure script set most of the options to YES. You need to take -lmalloc out of Makefile and add -lcompat. Here is my ports.h. I forgot what tweaks I needed to do. -David Langfod langfod@dihelix.com /* * Warning, this file was automatically created by the HylaFAX configure script * VERSION: v4.0pl1 * DATE: Thu May 1 16:54:00 HST 1997 * TARGET: i386-unknown-freebsd2.2 * RELEASE: 2.2-STABLE * CCOMPILER: /usr/bin/gcc-2.7.2 * CXXCOMPILER: /usr/bin/gcc-2.7.2 */ #ifndef _PORT_ #define _PORT_ 1 #ifdef __cplusplus extern "C" { #endif #define CONFIG_OPENFIFO O_RDONLY #define CONFIG_TIOCMBISBYREF yes #define ONDELAY_NOSTDINDUP #define CONFIG_MAXGID 60002 #include #include #define HAS_OSFCN_H 1 #define HAS_SELECT_H 1 #define fxSIGHANDLER (sig_t) #define fxSIGVECHANDLER (sig_t) #define fxSIGACTIONHANDLER (sig_t) #define HAS_MMAP 1 #define HAS_SYSCONF 1 #define HAS_ULIMIT 1 #define HAS_GETDTABLESIZE 1 #define HAS_FCHOWN 1 #define HAS_FCHMOD 1 #define HAS_TM_ZONE 1 #define HAS_NETERRNO_H 0 #define HAS_MKDEV 0 #define HAS_LOCALE 1 #include #define HAS_MODEM_H 0 #define HAS_TERMIOX 0 #define HAS_LOGWTMP 1 int logwtmp(const char*, const char*, const char*); #define HAS_LOGOUT 1 int logout(const char*); #define HAS_UTMPX 1 #define HAS_UTEXIT 1 #define HAS_EXIT_STATUS 1 #define HAS_TXCD 0 #define HAS_CRYPT_H 0 #ifdef __cplusplus } #endif #endif From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 16:30:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA24094 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 16:30:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from implode.root.com (implode.root.com [198.145.90.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA24088 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 16:30:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by implode.root.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA18420; Tue, 13 May 1997 16:30:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705132330.QAA18420@implode.root.com> X-Authentication-Warning: implode.root.com: localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Random Junk cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: memory usage In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 13 May 1997 15:53:45 PDT." <199705132253.PAA02473@hudsucker.gamespot.com> From: David Greenman Reply-To: dg@root.com Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 16:30:14 -0700 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >can someone explain this top output to me? > >Mem: 64M Active, 23M Inact, 21M Wired, 15M Cache, 8332K Buf, 176K Free >Swap: 262M Total, 42M Used, 220M Free, 16% Inuse > >am i out of memory or not? i ask because this machine is a busy ftp >server and i want to know if i can safely let more people log in. >right now it has reached its maximum simultaneous download ceiling. > >what's the difference between Inact and Free? and what does "wired" >mean? please use words of one syllable or less, i am pretty ignorant >of freebsd memory management issues. (a pointer to a good book or web >page would be appreciated as well.) The important figure is "cache". In 2.1.x, cache+free can be used as a rough indicator of the amount of available memory. However, also note that your swap usage is fairly high...this probably means that you are near the max and should get more memory before increasing the ftp limit higher. -DG David Greenman Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 16:35:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA24486 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 16:35:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rosie.scsn.net (scsn.net [206.25.246.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA24481 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 16:35:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cola68.scsn.net ([206.25.247.68]) by rosie.scsn.net (Post.Office MTA v3.0 release 0121 ID# 0-32322U5000L100S10000) with ESMTP id AAA158 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 19:29:15 -0400 Received: (from root@localhost) by cola68.scsn.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) id TAA01703; Tue, 13 May 1997 19:35:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19970513193534.42852@cola68.scsn.net> Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 19:35:34 -0400 From: "Donald J. Maddox" To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.1.7 and COMPAT_43 References: <19970513180141.36385@cola68.scsn.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: ; from Shawn Ramsey on Tue, May 13, 1997 at 04:14:41PM -0700 Reply-To: dmaddox@scsn.net Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, May 13, 1997 at 04:14:41PM -0700, Shawn Ramsey wrote: > > This raises a question that I have often wondered about: > > > > Why are *required* parts of the system listed in the config file > > as _options_? > > > > I mean, if it's _required_, then it's *not* an _option_; and if it's an > > option, it's not required, right? > > > > It seems to me that this just serves to confuse new users. Why not remove > > these "required options" and include required functionality unconditionally? > > I think the [KEEP THIS!] sets it off(or should) that you shouldnt be > removing it. Especially if you don't know what it is for in the first > place. That does not address my question: Why are _requirements_ listed in the config file as _options_? Why are they listed in the config file *at all*? Since they represent required functionality, wouldn't it be better if those 'options' were included in the kernel build unconditionally? Don't you think that would save a lot of bandwith on this list caused by newbies who inadvertently left a mandatory 'option' out of their config? -- Donald J. Maddox (dmaddox@scsn.net) From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 16:36:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA24574 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 16:36:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.PII.COM (pii.com [192.77.209.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA24565 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 16:36:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from PII.COM by PII.COM (4.1/SMI-4.4) id AA17286; Tue, 13 May 97 16:38:57 PDT Received: from PII-Message_Server by pii.com with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 13 May 1997 16:39:32 -0700 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 16:33:49 -0700 From: Robert Clark To: root@cola68.scsn.net, questions@FreeBSD.ORG, dmaddox@scsn.net Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.1.7 and COMPAT_43 -Reply Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Gas is optional in a car, but it won't run without it. [RC] >>> "Donald J. Maddox" 05/13/97 03:01pm >>> On Wed, May 14, 1997 at 09:07:13AM +1200, jonc@pinnacle.co.nz wrote: > On Tue, 13 May 1997, Nadav Eiron wrote: > > > jonc@pinnacle.co.nz wrote: > > > > > > Hmm, > > > > > > Just tried recompiling a kernel for 2.1.7, and removed the COMPAT_43 > > > option from the list. Upon rebooting, login behaves slightly strangely: > > > > Why did you remove COMPAT_43? It's one of the things that's not meant to > > be removed from the kernel config file (as the comment states). Most > > noteably it breaks xterm. > > The kernel config files do *NOT* say that its a required option (in either > GENERIC or LINT); they need updating if that's the case. > > And as to why, just fooling around with how small a kernel I can get > that still boots and works.. This raises a question that I have often wondered about: Why are *required* parts of the system listed in the config file as _options_? I mean, if it's _required_, then it's *not* an _option_; and if it's an option, it's not required, right? It seems to me that this just serves to confuse new users. Why not remove these "required options" and include required functionality unconditionally? -- Donald J. Maddox (dmaddox@scsn.net) From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 16:38:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA24694 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 16:38:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA24685; Tue, 13 May 1997 16:38:35 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Message-Id: <199705132338.QAA24685@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Syquest 88MB Cartridge Drive? To: jlj.mitchell.max@worldnet.att.net Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 16:38:35 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <3377B4A1.3C53@worldnet.att.net> from "Jason" at May 12, 97 08:24:01 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Jason wrote: > > Will my Syquest 88MB Cartridge Drive work with FreeBSD and if so who do > I install it. > the one that i used 3 years ago was scsi based. created an entire installation on it. worked fine, albeit slower due ot the slower media jmb From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 16:39:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA24757 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 16:39:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hps.sso.wdl.lmco.com (hps.sso.wdl.lmco.com [158.186.22.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA24748 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 16:39:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hps (hps.sso.wdl.lmco.com) by hps.sso.wdl.lmco.com (4.1/SSO-4.01-LMCO) id AA17660; Tue, 13 May 97 19:30:19 EDT Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 19:30:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Richard Toren X-Sender: rpt@hps To: dmaddox@scsn.net Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.1.7 and COMPAT_43 In-Reply-To: <19970513180141.36385@cola68.scsn.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 13 May 1997, Donald J. Maddox wrote: > On Wed, May 14, 1997 at 09:07:13AM +1200, jonc@pinnacle.co.nz wrote: > > On Tue, 13 May 1997, Nadav Eiron wrote: > > > > > jonc@pinnacle.co.nz wrote: > > > > > > > > Hmm, > > > > > > > > Just tried recompiling a kernel for 2.1.7, and removed the COMPAT_43 > > > > option from the list. Upon rebooting, login behaves slightly strangely: > > > > > > Why did you remove COMPAT_43? It's one of the things that's not meant to > > > be removed from the kernel config file (as the comment states). Most > > > noteably it breaks xterm. > > > > The kernel config files do *NOT* say that its a required option (in either > > GENERIC or LINT); they need updating if that's the case. > > > > And as to why, just fooling around with how small a kernel I can get > > that still boots and works.. > > This raises a question that I have often wondered about: > > Why are *required* parts of the system listed in the config file > as _options_? > > I mean, if it's _required_, then it's *not* an _option_; and if it's an > option, it's not required, right? > > It seems to me that this just serves to confuse new users. Why not remove > these "required options" and include required functionality unconditionally? > > > Donald J. Maddox > (dmaddox@scsn.net) Have you never bought a new car? They invented the concept of the "required option". I once worked for Ford Aerospace, and it was always a joke that we needed a dedicated computer system to keep the required options straight, and the customer confused.... ==================================================== Rip Toren | The bad news is that C++ is not an object-oriented | rpt@sso.wdl.lmco.com | programming language. .... The good news is that | | C++ supports object-oriented programming. | | C++ Programming & Fundamental Concepts | | by Anderson & Heinze | ==================================================== From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 16:47:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA25275 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 16:47:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rosie.scsn.net (scsn.net [206.25.246.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA25265 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 16:47:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cola68.scsn.net ([206.25.247.68]) by rosie.scsn.net (Post.Office MTA v3.0 release 0121 ID# 0-32322U5000L100S10000) with ESMTP id AAA132 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 19:40:40 -0400 Received: (from root@localhost) by cola68.scsn.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) id TAA01792; Tue, 13 May 1997 19:46:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19970513194659.14359@cola68.scsn.net> Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 19:46:59 -0400 From: "Donald J. Maddox" To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.1.7 and COMPAT_43 -Reply References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: ; from Robert Clark on Tue, May 13, 1997 at 04:33:49PM -0700 Reply-To: dmaddox@scsn.net Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, May 13, 1997 at 04:33:49PM -0700, Robert Clark wrote: > Gas is optional in a car, but it won't run without it. That's a clever answer, but I think it still doesn't address my point... Don't you think it would be better if _required_ parts of the kernel were included by default, thereby saving enormous bandwith wastage on threads of this nature? Why give newbies the opportunity to shoot themselves in the foot needlessly? If "required options" were simply not listed as config options, what would be the down side? -- Donald J. Maddox (dmaddox@scsn.net) From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 16:50:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA25472 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 16:50:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cedb.dpcsys.com (cedb.DPCSYS.com [209.25.4.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA25464 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 16:50:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dan@localhost) by cedb.dpcsys.com (8.8.5/8.8.2) with SMTP id XAA14431; Tue, 13 May 1997 23:50:35 GMT Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 16:50:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Busarow To: "Adam L. Simpson" cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: POP3 Config - qpopper2.3 In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19970511233943.00758174@mail.netsonic.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 11 May 1997, Adam L. Simpson wrote: > We are setting up qpopper 2.3 and having a couple of problems with the > config of it. > > checking the mail when I use adam2@207.250.84.2 works...but no > apollo.netsonic.com, mail.netsonic.com or netsonic.com. Maybe you should explain your setup a little. 207.250.84.2 appears to be a dialup port, at least it hits a routing loop inside inc.net when tracing to it. Qpopper allows remote users to retrieve mail from the machine qpopper is running on. Dan -- Dan Busarow 714 443 4172 DPC Systems / Beach.Net dan@dpcsys.com Dana Point, California 83 09 EF 59 E0 11 89 B4 8D 09 DB FD E1 DD 0C 82 From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 16:51:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA25515 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 16:51:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rosie.scsn.net (scsn.net [206.25.246.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA25508 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 16:51:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cola68.scsn.net ([206.25.247.68]) by rosie.scsn.net (Post.Office MTA v3.0 release 0121 ID# 0-32322U5000L100S10000) with ESMTP id AAA162 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 19:44:35 -0400 Received: (from root@localhost) by cola68.scsn.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) id TAA01803; Tue, 13 May 1997 19:50:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19970513195053.18174@cola68.scsn.net> Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 19:50:53 -0400 From: "Donald J. Maddox" To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.1.7 and COMPAT_43 References: <19970513180141.36385@cola68.scsn.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: ; from Richard Toren on Tue, May 13, 1997 at 07:30:18PM -0400 Reply-To: dmaddox@scsn.net Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, May 13, 1997 at 07:30:18PM -0400, Richard Toren wrote: > Have you never bought a new car? They invented the concept of the > "required option". I once worked for Ford Aerospace, and it was > always a joke that we needed a dedicated computer system to keep the > required options straight, and the customer confused.... But is that _our_ goal as well? Wouldn't it be better just to build required parts of the kernel unconditionally, and thereby avoid giving new users one more way to shoot themselves in the foot? -- Donald J. Maddox (dmaddox@scsn.net) From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 16:55:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA25793 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 16:55:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cedb.dpcsys.com (cedb.DPCSYS.com [209.25.4.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA25788 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 16:55:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dan@localhost) by cedb.dpcsys.com (8.8.5/8.8.2) with SMTP id XAA14452; Tue, 13 May 1997 23:55:44 GMT Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 16:55:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Busarow To: Mike Goodridge cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Links In-Reply-To: <199705120949.EAA29879@sys1.inforel.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/ALTERNATIVE; BOUNDARY="----=_NextPart_000_01BC5E88.0853BCC0" Content-ID: Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ------=_NextPart_000_01BC5E88.0853BCC0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=iso-8859-1 Content-ID: On Mon, 12 May 1997, Mike Goodridge wrote: > I am putting up a web page and a portion of it is being devoted to UNIX in general. I use Free BSD serveral other BSD products and was wondering if I could use your graphic on my page to offset a link back to several BSD sites, such as BSDI, NETBSD and FreeBSD. Couls you send me the graphic if this is ok with you? The "Powered by FreeBSD" logo is for use on FreeBSD systems, but that's probably not the one you want for a generic BSD logo. For permission to use the BSD Daemon logo contact Marshall Kirk McKusick 1614 Oxford St Berkeley, CA 94709-1608 USA or via email at mckusick@mckusick.com. Also see http://www.freebsd.org/daemon.html Dan -- Dan Busarow 714 443 4172 DPC Systems / Beach.Net dan@dpcsys.com Dana Point, California 83 09 EF 59 E0 11 89 B4 8D 09 DB FD E1 DD 0C 82 ------=_NextPart_000_01BC5E88.0853BCC0 Content-Type: TEXT/HTML; CHARSET=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-ID: Content-Description:

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I am putting up a web page and a portion = of it is=20 being devoted to UNIX in general. I use Free BSD serveral other BSD = products=20 and was wondering if I could use your graphic on my page to offset a = link back=20 to several BSD sites, such as BSDI, NETBSD and FreeBSD. Couls you send = me the=20 graphic if this is ok with you?

 

Thanks,

Mike Goodridge

------=_NextPart_000_01BC5E88.0853BCC0-- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 16:59:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA26170 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 16:59:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from osti.wolpert.org (pm3-stl134.i1.net [207.230.58.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA26165 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 16:59:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from edward@localhost) by osti.wolpert.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA04811 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 13 May 1997 19:03:34 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.0 [p0] on FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 18:54:55 -0500 (CDT) From: Edward Wolpert To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Java On FreeBSD, Please help Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Folks- I'm running FreeBSD 2.2.1-Release. I've been using the Linux port of Java on my box for jdk1.0.2. Now that there is a Linux release of jdk1.1.1, I would like to use it, but it doesn't seem to work on my system. (It can't do awt activities well... sometimes they work, sometimes they don't.) Anyone get it to work on their FreeBSD box? Virtually, Edward Wolpert --------- --------- wolpert@i1.net | 4A A5 96 0B 7D FE 5F F8 | 2047/4AB972BD 1996/09/21 | 3A F9 0E BC 77 3C 7A F9 | Change is inevitable. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Public key at http://pgp.ai.mit.edu/~bal/pks-commands-beta.html iQEVAwUBM3j/+frOoi1KuXK9AQHubwf/VkGmnr50Ph8u+F3n16pd1D2OPWFt5F0W IkyaS3+1L8WA9o4jkfSINt01NMtti+wrq17Z8JS4oY4Zcl8Yito6ThayQHXxT+x+ kS7BrjHsgDMaR4emDey30AzHpYO2H9UzY3qs07HRJ1GmLYWyIhCdkknH8L62XJT2 VEd4QNozJyWJIXRzGpMrEBf342oats+00N7bFRHrerbMhBBHuhVYq1+Wq8HHGFmk x7icOJhqde500GJgOwW6kcs1C4I6Qd+smTP/lCXCy4Def1B6F1lgcNEn93vG8+Kh uPtO5lirXv4pahNhAt62IUoxvfqm1I5zv0Tg483L8nYkboqFJXg4Mw== =pqZg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 17:38:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA28587 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 17:38:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kevin.sunshine.net (pme41.sunshine.net [204.191.205.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA28578 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 17:38:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (cagey@localhost) by kevin.sunshine.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA00256; Tue, 13 May 1997 17:33:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 17:33:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Kevin Eliuk Reply-To: Kevin Eliuk To: knup cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD Help In-Reply-To: <199705102247.PAA11004@mail.inficad.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 10 May 1996, knup wrote: >Hello I recently purcahsed FreeBSD 2.2.1 from you, Im having some trouble >getting pppd support with the kernel. This says that the kernel on here has >built in PPPD support but i can not find a trace of it, I've looked for it >when you setup your kernel, But it is not their. Please help me! As far as I know pppd is not configured in the kernel.GENERIC because it is to user specific. What is better to use is iijppp which can be configured outside of a compiled kernel, the most important files are in /etc and /etc/ppp. There is quit an in-depth overview of setup instructions in /usr/share/doc/handbook/ files as well there is the ppp pediatic primer which is available at: http://www.freebsd.org/docs.html Follow these and you should be well on your way :) >Thanks alot Your welcome. >-Nadine Demarest _______________________________________ |\ /| | \ kevin_eliuk@sunshine.net / | My manhood shouldn't be | \ Kevin G. Eliuk / | measured by the length | /^\_________________________/^\ | of my run on sentences. | / \ | |/--===### Powered By FreeBSD 2.2.1 \| | www.freebsd.org | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 17:49:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA29070 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 17:49:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.tseinc.com (gatekeeper.tseinc.com [206.114.206.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA29062 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 17:49:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by gatekeeper.tseinc.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA01070 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 19:48:58 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199705140048.TAA01070@gatekeeper.tseinc.com> X-Authentication-Warning: gatekeeper.tseinc.com: nobody set sender to using -f Received: from unknown(192.168.1.12) by gatekeeper.tseinc.com via smap (V1.3) id sma001067; Tue May 13 19:48:52 1997 From: "Jay L. West" To: Subject: Fw: tis fwtk & skey help needed.. Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 19:48:52 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk ---------- > From: Jay L. West > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: tis fwtk & skey help needed.. > Date: Tuesday, May 13, 1997 2:12 PM > > I am trying to setup the fwtk(1.3) from tis on Fbsd2.2.1. > It's set up to proxy via plug, http, https, pop3, etc.. > and all works very well. However, I wanted to use Skey > for strong authentication from inbound sessions. > I modified auth.h to tell it I wanted skey, and modified > the Makefile to point SKEYINC at /usr/include and > SKEYLIB at /usr/lib/libskey.a. Then I re-run make > and it coughs about a lot of MD4 stuff being reference > but not found. > > I know I figured this out a year or so ago when I did it > on 2.1.5, but upgraded to 2.2.1 and can't remember how > I got around this. If it matters, we don't have DES installed. > > Any help is *MOST* appreciated! > > Thanks! > > Jay West > TSE > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Unix *IS* user friendly; It's just selective about who it's friends are! > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 17:55:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA29510 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 17:55:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cedb.dpcsys.com (cedb.DPCSYS.com [209.25.4.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA29502 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 17:55:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dan@localhost) by cedb.dpcsys.com (8.8.5/8.8.2) with SMTP id AAA14845; Wed, 14 May 1997 00:54:56 GMT Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 17:54:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Busarow To: Diana cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Floppy Tape drive support In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 13 May 1997, Diana wrote: > While I was searching through the archives for references to floppy tape > support I saw several references to "lft". Everyone pointed to You don't give your release but on 2.2 the ft driver is included in the generic kernel. Just checked a 2.1.5 system and it's included there too. I've never used one so I don't know if there is anything special you need to do in terms of jumpering or cabling the drive to get it to work, but as far as the kernel is concerned you should not need to do anything. Dan -- Dan Busarow 714 443 4172 DPC Systems / Beach.Net dan@dpcsys.com Dana Point, California 83 09 EF 59 E0 11 89 B4 8D 09 DB FD E1 DD 0C 82 From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 18:00:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA29769 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 18:00:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.illumen.net ([209.38.6.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA29764 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 18:00:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from P-60 (slip1168.rmii.com [166.93.1.168]) by mail.illumen.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA02384 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 01:01:54 GMT Message-ID: <33028357.8C9@illumen.net> Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 18:58:31 -0800 From: Gus Nasses Reply-To: gus@illumen.net Organization: The Illumen Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I; 16bit) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Adaptec 174x detected but no drives seen under FreeBSD 2.1.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have an HP Vectra 4/33T EISA Tower with an Adaptec174x EISA SCSI controller. The Controller seems to be recognized but the drives cannot be seen under FreeBSD. I am trying to install version 2.1.5, both from IDE CD, DOS Partion, and Floppy. Nothing works. This machine has been a stable research platform and has run DOS, WfW 3.11, NT 3.51, Netware 3.12, Netware 4.1 all flawlessly. This is the first OS it has had a problem. I have searched the mail archives for an answer and have run across the identical problem on an identical machine but without any solution. I was wondering if anyone has come up with anything in the 15 months since the last relevant post. Any help or info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, Gus Nasses Field Engineer The Illumen Group, Inc. gus@illumen.net From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 18:16:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA00840 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 18:16:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from narcissus.ml.org (root@brosenga.Pitzer.edu [134.173.120.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA00835 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 18:16:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (ben@localhost) by narcissus.ml.org (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA26020; Tue, 13 May 1997 18:16:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 18:16:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Snob Art Genre To: dmaddox@scsn.net cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.1.7 and COMPAT_43 -Reply In-Reply-To: <19970513194659.14359@cola68.scsn.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk What if I am a programmer who for some reason wants an "INET"-less kernel? The way the system is now, I can take out the INET option and then fix all the holes left by its absence. Under your system, I would also have to hack config(8). Perhaps the existing system should have more obvious documentation -- on my 2.1.7 system neither INET nor COMPAT_43 are marked as mandatory in GENERIC nor in LINT. On Tue, 13 May 1997, Donald J. Maddox wrote: > On Tue, May 13, 1997 at 04:33:49PM -0700, Robert Clark wrote: > > Gas is optional in a car, but it won't run without it. > > That's a clever answer, but I think it still doesn't address my > point... > > Don't you think it would be better if _required_ parts of the kernel > were included by default, thereby saving enormous bandwith wastage on > threads of this nature? Why give newbies the opportunity to shoot > themselves in the foot needlessly? > > If "required options" were simply not listed as config options, > what would be the down side? > > -- > > > Donald J. Maddox > (dmaddox@scsn.net) > > Ben "You have your mind on computers, it seems." From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 18:20:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA01059 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 18:20:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from narcissus.ml.org (root@brosenga.Pitzer.edu [134.173.120.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA00911 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 18:19:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (fullermd@localhost) by narcissus.ml.org (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA26040; Tue, 13 May 1997 18:19:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 18:19:29 -0700 (PDT) From: The Devil Himself To: ballhog cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <3378D926.1193@firstnethou.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 13 May 1997, ballhog wrote: > Hello, i wsa told about your FreeBSD software by someone i met on the > net. I didn't exactly find the information i was looking for while > reading your FAQ's and About FreeBSD, pages, and was wondering if you > could help clear a few things up. > > I am currently running Win95, what i would like to know is, why would i > want to change OS's? I know win95 has some quirks, but i also know it > worked fine. Note that you don't have to change; you can have both on your system, and select at bootup time. I did it for quite a while, and will shortly be doing it again. > > I would also like to know, would FreeBSD be able to run normal dos based > software, i am assuming it won't since it is UNIX based. If it can't, > then what exactly should i get FreeBSD for? > > This is my situation, i am ALLWAYS on the net, i'n sort of hooked. I > also play lot's of games via network card with my roomate, ie... > Warcraft, Diablo' Domm etc.. etc.. I would like to remain able to > connect to the internet and run Netscape etc... and play those games > etc... and i just bought a Connectix Quickcam for use with CuSeeMe, so i > would really like to continue enjoying these things. AFAIK, we have drivers for the Quickcam, netscape works just fine, there are versions of doom and quake which have been ported to Linux, and I've heard that they work just fine under FreeBSD with the Linux emulator; that they in fact work better than under 95 because the OS is leaner. Warcraft and Diablo I don't think will work, but you can alwasys boot into 95. > > Can FreeBSD do any of this? and in your honest opinion, should i trash > Win95 and go with FreeBSD? I'm open-minded, i'll try anything if it > will work with all the things i like to do. Well, you can always, like I said, put it on and try it out; it won't cost you anything but some disk space. And you don't have to 'trash' 95 to try out FreeBSD. And you could always undertake a port of Diablo to FreeBSD; I'm sure it would be welcomed... ;) I'm not sure how wine is coming along for running things from 95; I heard that it should be fairly stable soon, but I'm no authority on that. Wine is another free software project which concentrates on running M$ Windows applications and games and stuff under XWin for Linux and FreeBSD and a few other PC UNIX's. > > Thanx' for your help. > > Gene Faull > Hope it helps!! *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* |FreeBSD is good. FreeBSD is our friend. UNIX is our god.| *Micro$oft is bad. Micro$oft causes problems.* |MicroBSD??? I DON'T THINK SO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!| |"I hate quotes in signature files" :-} MAtthew Fuller| *fullermd@narcissus.ml.org FreeBSD junkie* |http://keystone.westminster.edu/~fullermd Westminster College| *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 18:26:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA01413 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 18:26:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rosie.scsn.net (scsn.net [206.25.246.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA01407 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 18:26:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cola43.scsn.net ([206.25.247.43]) by rosie.scsn.net (Post.Office MTA v3.0 release 0121 ID# 0-32322U5000L100S10000) with ESMTP id AAA132 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 21:19:08 -0400 Received: (from root@localhost) by cola43.scsn.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) id VAA02300; Tue, 13 May 1997 21:25:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19970513212558.50689@cola43.scsn.net> Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 21:25:58 -0400 From: "Donald J. Maddox" To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.1.7 and COMPAT_43 -Reply References: <19970513194659.14359@cola68.scsn.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: ; from Snob Art Genre on Tue, May 13, 1997 at 06:16:43PM -0700 Reply-To: dmaddox@scsn.net Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, May 13, 1997 at 06:16:43PM -0700, Snob Art Genre wrote: > What if I am a programmer who for some reason wants an "INET"-less kernel? > The way the system is now, I can take out the INET option and then fix all > the holes left by its absence. Under your system, I would also have to > hack config(8). > > Perhaps the existing system should have more obvious documentation -- on > my 2.1.7 system neither INET nor COMPAT_43 are marked as mandatory in > GENERIC nor in LINT. Ok... But since an INET-less kernel is clearly the exception, wouldn't it make more sense to have an 'INETLESS' kernel option rather than an 'INET' option that is really not an option for most people? -- Donald J. Maddox (dmaddox@scsn.net) From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 18:57:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA03547 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 18:57:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from narcissus.ml.org (root@brosenga.Pitzer.edu [134.173.120.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA03529 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 18:57:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (ben@localhost) by narcissus.ml.org (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA26361; Tue, 13 May 1997 18:57:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 18:57:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Snob Art Genre To: Steve Howe cc: Bernard Courtney , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: UN Tar In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 13 May 1997, Steve Howe wrote: > On Mon, 12 May 1997, Bernard Courtney wrote: > > > HI all, > > > > Quick question- what is the command to un tar a local file? eg. I have > > qmail in the /var directory, I want to extract it to the /var directory- > > what is the command? > > man tar ... > > tar -xzvf file > > the z is used only if it's gzipped. i would untar it in a tmp > directory first, to see how it untarrs - maybe not like you'd > want it too. If you want to see how it untars, replace the 'x' with a 't'. This shows you where it would untar the files without actually untarring them -- much faster. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Sleep: a sign a caffeine deprivation ... http://www.anchorage.net/~un_x > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Ben "You have your mind on computers, it seems." From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 19:30:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA08194 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 19:30:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from narcissus.ml.org (root@brosenga.Pitzer.edu [134.173.120.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA08188 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 19:30:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (ben@localhost) by narcissus.ml.org (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA26650; Tue, 13 May 1997 19:30:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 19:30:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Snob Art Genre To: dmaddox@scsn.net cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.1.7 and COMPAT_43 -Reply In-Reply-To: <19970513212558.50689@cola43.scsn.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 13 May 1997, Donald J. Maddox wrote: > On Tue, May 13, 1997 at 06:16:43PM -0700, Snob Art Genre wrote: > > What if I am a programmer who for some reason wants an "INET"-less kernel? > > The way the system is now, I can take out the INET option and then fix all > > the holes left by its absence. Under your system, I would also have to > > hack config(8). > > > > Perhaps the existing system should have more obvious documentation -- on > > my 2.1.7 system neither INET nor COMPAT_43 are marked as mandatory in > > GENERIC nor in LINT. > > Ok... But since an INET-less kernel is clearly the exception, wouldn't > it make more sense to have an 'INETLESS' kernel option rather than > an 'INET' option that is really not an option for most people? Why change working code when a trivial change to the documentation would accomplish the same thing? > -- > > > Donald J. Maddox > (dmaddox@scsn.net) > > Ben "You have your mind on computers, it seems." From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 19:58:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA09955 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 19:58:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net (mailhost.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA09950 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 19:58:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jeffalla ([207.146.71.195]) by mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with ESMTP id AAA26640 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 02:57:52 +0000 From: "Jeff Allain" To: Subject: Can't find kernel Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 22:53:57 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19970514025749.AAA26640@jeffalla> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I made a boot floppy as described in the procedure. I booted it on my machine, and the boot prompt does come up ok. After the 5 second delay the boot process tries to continue, but I get an error that it can't find the kernel. I tried using the -c option, but that didn't help either. I've got an IBM Thinkpad 750 with 8M RAM. Any ideas would be appreciated as to how to get started with at least booting. Thank you. Jeff Allain From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 20:01:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA10145 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 20:01:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.cdrom.com [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA10140 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 20:01:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sand.sentex.ca (sand.sentex.ca [206.222.77.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA04893 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 20:00:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gravel (gravel.sentex.ca [205.211.165.210]) by sand.sentex.ca (8.8.5/8.8.3) with SMTP id XAA05130; Tue, 13 May 1997 23:06:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970513230432.00ce5890@sentex.net> X-Sender: mdtancsa@sentex.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 23:04:32 -0400 To: stanb@netcom.com (Stan Brown), freebsd-questions@freebsd.com (Free BSD Questions list) From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: Anyone Gotten Hylafax version 4 to compile under FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: <199705132137.RAA03533@netcom20.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 05:37 PM 5/13/97 -0400, Stan Brown wrote: > I am trying to get Hylafax (a fax client/server package) to compile > under FreeBSD 2.2R > > Has anyone manged to get this working? There is a port for version 3, > but I can't find the source for V3, so I compiled V$ on the client > machines (non- FreebSD0. Unfortunately it does not appear to be posible > to use V4 clients with a V3 server. I would hate to have to move the > modem from my FreebSD box, since the networking works so well on it. I think some one posted the the tricks needed to compile it on 2.2 a few weeks ago. Have a search through the mailing list archives at www.freebsd.org or www.dejanews.com... If I recall, the two areas are tifflib 3.4 and some problem with /bin/sh not executing properly.... Have a look at the thread for details/work arounds. ---Mike ********************************************************************** Mike Tancsa (mike@sentex.net) * To do is to be -- Nietzsche Sentex Communications Corp, * To be is to do -- Sartre Cambridge, Ontario * Do be do be do -- Sinatra (http://www.sentex.net/~mdtancsa) * From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 20:04:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA10347 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 20:04:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cobber.cord.edu (cobber.cord.edu [138.129.1.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA10342 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 20:04:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by cobber.cord.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01842; Tue, 13 May 97 21:57:09 CDT Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 21:55:47 -0500 (CDT) From: Kyle Mestery Subject: Re: Java On FreeBSD, Please help To: Edward Wolpert Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I'm running FreeBSD 2.2.1-Release. I've been using the Linux port > of Java on my box for jdk1.0.2. Now that there is a Linux release of jdk1.1.1, > I would like to use it, but it doesn't seem to work on my system. (It can't > do awt activities well... sometimes they work, sometimes they don't.) Anyone > get it to work on their FreeBSD box? I am using a hacked version of jdk for FreeBSD that has support for awt, although it claims to be buggy. I havent seen anything weird or noticed any problems, so it must work pretty well. It was on freefall about 3-4 months ago when I got it, not sure if it is still there. Anyone know? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kyle A.D. Mestery | --* POWERED BY FREEBSD *-- 1901 20th St. S #4 | Network Support Specialist Moorhead, MN 56560 | Concordia College, Moorhead, MN 218-236-6359 | "My other computer runs UNIX also" -TJ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 20:08:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA10613 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 20:08:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rosie.scsn.net (scsn.net [206.25.246.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA10602 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 20:08:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cola47.scsn.net ([206.25.247.47]) by rosie.scsn.net (Post.Office MTA v3.0 release 0121 ID# 0-32322U5000L100S10000) with ESMTP id AAA115 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 23:01:24 -0400 Received: (from root@localhost) by cola47.scsn.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) id XAA02379; Tue, 13 May 1997 23:08:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19970513230814.49485@cola47.scsn.net> Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 23:08:14 -0400 From: "Donald J. Maddox" To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.1.7 and COMPAT_43 -Reply References: <19970513212558.50689@cola43.scsn.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: ; from Snob Art Genre on Tue, May 13, 1997 at 07:30:22PM -0700 Reply-To: dmaddox@scsn.net Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, May 13, 1997 at 07:30:22PM -0700, Snob Art Genre wrote: > On Tue, 13 May 1997, Donald J. Maddox wrote: > > > On Tue, May 13, 1997 at 06:16:43PM -0700, Snob Art Genre wrote: > > > What if I am a programmer who for some reason wants an "INET"-less kernel? > > > The way the system is now, I can take out the INET option and then fix all > > > the holes left by its absence. Under your system, I would also have to > > > hack config(8). > > > > > > Perhaps the existing system should have more obvious documentation -- on > > > my 2.1.7 system neither INET nor COMPAT_43 are marked as mandatory in > > > GENERIC nor in LINT. > > > > Ok... But since an INET-less kernel is clearly the exception, wouldn't > > it make more sense to have an 'INETLESS' kernel option rather than > > an 'INET' option that is really not an option for most people? > > Why change working code when a trivial change to the documentation would > accomplish the same thing? Change what working code? I admit ignorance of config internals, but if seems to me that you would just need to change occurences of: #ifdef INET to #ifndef INETLESS No? -- Donald J. Maddox (dmaddox@scsn.net) From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 20:46:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA12273 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 20:46:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kevin.sunshine.net (pme02.sunshine.net [204.191.205.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA12265 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 20:46:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (cagey@localhost) by kevin.sunshine.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA00472; Tue, 13 May 1997 20:42:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 20:42:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Kevin Eliuk Reply-To: Kevin Eliuk To: Jeff Allain cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Can't find kernel In-Reply-To: <19970514025749.AAA26640@jeffalla> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 13 May 1997, Jeff Allain wrote: >I made a boot floppy as described in the procedure. I booted it on my >machine, and the boot prompt does come up ok. After the 5 second delay the >boot process tries to continue, but I get an error that it can't find the >kernel. I tried using the -c option, but that didn't help either. I've got >an IBM Thinkpad 750 with 8M RAM. Any ideas would be appreciated as to how >to get started with at least booting. Thank you. > >Jeff Allain > Remake your boot.flp with fdimage on a full dos formatted disk, it could just be a corrupted file. _______________________________________ |\ /| | \ kevin_eliuk@sunshine.net / | My manhood shouldn't be | \ Kevin G. Eliuk / | measured by the length | /^\_________________________/^\ | of my run on sentences. | / \ | |/--===### Powered By FreeBSD 2.2.1 \| | www.freebsd.org | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 20:59:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA13072 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 20:59:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from narcissus.ml.org (root@brosenga.Pitzer.edu [134.173.120.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA13067 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 20:59:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (ben@localhost) by narcissus.ml.org (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA27406; Tue, 13 May 1997 20:59:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 20:59:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Snob Art Genre To: dmaddox@scsn.net cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.1.7 and COMPAT_43 -Reply In-Reply-To: <19970513230814.49485@cola47.scsn.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 13 May 1997, Donald J. Maddox wrote: > Change what working code? I admit ignorance of config internals, > but if seems to me that you would just need to change occurences of: > > #ifdef INET > > to > > #ifndef INETLESS > > No? I admit ignorance of both C preprocessor workings and kernel code, but that *sounds* reasonable . . . :) Why don't you work up some diffs and submit them to the appropriate person? > Donald J. Maddox > (dmaddox@scsn.net) Ben "You have your mind on computers, it seems." From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 21:05:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA13332 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 21:05:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from axp.cmpu.net (root@axp.cmpu.net [204.96.11.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA13326 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 21:05:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vladimir (dal1103.cmpu.net [204.181.109.104]) by axp.cmpu.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA09038; Wed, 14 May 1997 00:03:48 -0400 Message-Id: <199705140403.AAA09038@axp.cmpu.net> From: "mefoster" To: "questions@freebsd.org" , "support@cdrom.com" Date: Tue, 13 May 97 23:05:38 Reply-To: "mefoster" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.91 For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Problem installing FreeBSD 2.1.7 - Read error on booting Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk This is my first attempt to install and run FreeBSD. I have been trying to get 2.1.7 installed on a system that has an Adaptec 2940UW (bios 1.23) and a Quantum 2GB disk. This system has 3 other SCSI disks, each with its own OS, and I am using System Commander as a boot manager. FreeBSD seems to install OK and System Commander sees it and adds it to its boot menu, but when I try to boot, I get a "Read error". I have attempted to determine what the problem is by reading newsgroups, the FreeBSD WEB site, files on the CDROM, and the System Commander manual. I have made several attempts to correct this problem. I have installed FreeBSD as the only operating system on the disk and let it auto-size the partitions. I have installed it using a separate 100MB partition for the root filesystem so that it would be within the 1024 cylinder limit. I have installed it with a separate 10MB DOS partition so that it would automatically detect the drive geometry as suggested in one of the files on the CDROM. In all of these cases I have selected the option of writing a normal MBR to the disk. I also tried letting the installation put FreeBSD's boot manager on, but it would not let me select this option. At this point I am uncertain what the problem is. There seems to be an indication from the information that I have read that it is a drive geometry translation problem. fdisk reports the drive geometry as 255 heads, 256 cylinders, 63 sectors. I checked the Quantum web site and the actual physical geometry is 6810 tracks, and 4 heads (the sector count was not exactly specified). fdisk refuses to accept this information. I cannot disable bios translation in the SCSI controller without destroying the ability to boot the other operating systems I have installed. I believe I have exhausted all of the means I have of figuring out what the problem is and correcting it. I would really like to install and use FreeBSD, and I would appreciate any help you can provide. Marvin Foster From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 21:25:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA14605 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 21:25:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nightflight.com (nightflight.com [207.135.216.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA14599 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 21:25:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from laptop.nightflight.com (laptop [207.135.216.195]) by nightflight.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id VAA24405 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 21:25:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970513212537.006b04cc@nightflight.com> X-Sender: gcrutchr@nightflight.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 21:25:37 -0700 To: questions@freebsd.org From: Gary Crutcher Subject: PCMCIA card configuration Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Well, I finally got FreeBSD installed on my laptop. I have 2 questions: 1. Having read the manpages on pccard.conf and still a little confused, does anyone have a pccard.conf file for an IBM Ethernet PCMCIA card (10baseT) I can look at? 2. For the xf86config program, what is the mouse driver for a laptop with a touchpad for a mouse? I have tried Microsoft on COM1 and PS/2 drivers, but with no luck. Thanks, Gary -------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary Crutcher email: gcrutchr@nightflight.com Webmaster URL: http://www.nightflight.com Member of the Internet Developers Association ----------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 22:33:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA19806 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 22:33:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.telstra.com.au (mail.telstra.com.au [192.148.160.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA19795 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 22:32:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by mail.telstra.com.au (8.8.2/8.6.9) id PAA12937 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 15:32:00 +1000 (EST) Received: from mail_gw.fwall.telecom.com.au(192.148.147.10) by mail via smap (V1.3) id sma012842; Wed May 14 15:31:43 1997 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by mail_gw.fwall.telecom.com.au (8.8.2/8.6.9) id PAA13657 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 15:31:20 +1000 (EST) Received: from cdn_mail.dn.itg.telecom.com.au(144.135.109.134) by mail-gw.fwall.telstra.com.au via smap (V1.3) id sma013528; Wed May 14 15:30:59 1997 Received: from qsmtp1.corpmail.telstra.com.au (qsmtp1.corpmail [172.51.17.211]) by cdn-mail.telecom.com.au (8.8.2/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA03099 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 15:31:05 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <199705140531.PAA03099@cdn-mail.telecom.com.au> Received: by qsmtp1.corpmail with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Wed, 14 May 1997 15:33:54 +1000 From: "Scott, Brian" To: "'smtp:freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org'" Subject: Netatalk programs Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 15:37:00 +1000 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I've had a bit of difficulty with the kernel Appletalk support in FreeBSD 2.2.1 and was hoping that you could point me in the right direction. I had been running the CAP package on my machine (more or less in line with the port) until recently (i.e. under 2.1.0) using bpf devices. This broke under 2.2.1 so I decided to give Kernel Appletalk support a go (under CAP). This seems to also be broken (although less so after a lot of stuffing around). I have noticed a few references to a suite of programs (atalkd etc) that are meant to go with the netatalk package and have obtained a copy (from umich, the original authors) of the distributon. The original code seems to have no knowledge of FreeBSD. Correcting this slight oversight, I now have a fair amount of the code compiled but then things started to get a bit ugly. It seems to me that the organisation that did the port to FreeBSD have probably been through all this before me. Is there somewhere I should be looking for the fruits of this labour? Should I be talking to someone at 'Whistle Communications Corp'? If so, any clues on how I find her/him/them/it? In the mean time I'll just keep on hacking away here but I'd love to know if someone has already done this before me. Thanks Brian From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 22:59:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA23158 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 22:59:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from comsun.chungnam.ac.kr (comsun.chungnam.ac.kr [168.188.48.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA23145 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 22:59:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from belldandy.chungnam.ac.kr (belldandy.chungnam.ac.kr [168.188.48.102]) by comsun.chungnam.ac.kr (8.6.9H1/8.9.11h) with SMTP id PAA29519 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 15:01:15 +0900 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970514150451.0069e690@comsun.chungnam.ac.kr> X-Sender: jypark@comsun.chungnam.ac.kr X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 15:04:51 +0900 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Juyoung Park Subject: Make FreeBSD 2.2.1 into gateway Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello Folks.. I'm very curious about whether FreeBSD 2.2.1 can do with 2 or above LAN network cards.. I try to make FreeBSD gateway like this. 168.188.48.0 168.188.51.0 ---+---+---+---+-- ---+---+---+---+-- | | | | +----------------------+ | 3Com 3Com | | | | | |FreeBSD 2.2.1 machine| +----------------------+ To summarize my questions: 1) Can FreeBSD machine (installed Pentium PC) hold 2 or above Ethernet card? 2) If does, then can I make gateway by just setting gateway daemon or router daemon? I'll summarize.. Thanks in advance Juyoung Park --------------------------------- computer communications lab, Chungnam Nat. Univ. South KOREA +82-42-822-2577 ------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 23:50:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA03231 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 23:50:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from DB_INET.dbergstrom.dk ([193.227.202.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA03190 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 23:50:47 -0700 (PDT) From: lars.falch@dbergstrom.dk Received: from schmock.dbergstrom.dk ([193.227.202.115]) by DB_INET.dbergstrom.dk (post.office MTA v1.9.3 ID# 67-121594) with SMTP id AAA59 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 07:44:19 +0100 Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 07:46:45 +0000 Subject: 2.2.1-RELEASE problem? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Z-Mail Pro 6.1 (Win32 - 021297), NetManage Inc. X-Face: &N*s30~FS<,2ize[f6&bQ31$Xo9!U$@BA8.doi\os+0]c$Ow}GnDr|EjMlaOcVrXQj7%(MG YGT7$RR#+TZ-P>z>[]xAGnLFfpz7P;6#j`3-t7jtyd|/g}T~l5J X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi there, I have been trying to install 2.2.1-RELEASE several time - but everytime I get the same error. The entire installation runs without any problems, and the system boots fine after the installation, but when I try to logon as root the following error msg occurs: ld.so failed: Can't find shared library "libdes.so.3.0" I didnt' have this problem with the 2.1.7-RELEASE, maybe I should try installing without the crypto stuff? Thanks, Lars From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 23:53:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA04080 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 23:53:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unix.ukdw.ac.id (unix.ukdw.ac.id [167.205.153.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA03266 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 23:50:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from hendra@localhost) by unix.ukdw.ac.id (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA04018; Wed, 14 May 1997 13:46:58 +0700 (JVT) Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 13:46:58 +0700 (JVT) From: Hendra Sentono To: Juyoung Park cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Make FreeBSD 2.2.1 into gateway In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19970514150451.0069e690@comsun.chungnam.ac.kr> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 14 May 1997, Juyoung Park wrote: > Hello Folks.. > > I'm very curious about whether FreeBSD 2.2.1 can do with 2 or above LAN > network cards.. > I try to make FreeBSD gateway like this. > > > 168.188.48.0 168.188.51.0 > ---+---+---+---+-- ---+---+---+---+-- > | | > | | > +----------------------+ > | 3Com 3Com | > | | > | | > |FreeBSD 2.2.1 machine| > +----------------------+ > > > To summarize my questions: > > 1) Can FreeBSD machine (installed Pentium PC) hold 2 or above Ethernet card? Sure, if your PC can hold those cards. You can configure it on your kernel. (knowledge of the type of your 3Com cards would be helpful) > > 2) If does, then can I make gateway by just setting gateway daemon or > router daemon? Yes. Our machine configured as gateway (also in the kernel) and we run routed. Hope this helps. > I'll summarize.. > > Thanks in advance > > > Juyoung Park --------------------------------- > computer communications lab, Chungnam Nat. Univ. > South KOREA > +82-42-822-2577 > ------------------------------------------------ > ===================================================================== Hendra Sentono | hendra@students.ukdw.ac.id Duta Wacana Christian University | http://www.ukdw.ac.id/ Student of Information Technology | ===================================================================== From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 13 23:59:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA06047 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 23:59:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.barcode.co.il (gatekeeper.barcode.co.il [192.116.93.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA06024 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 23:59:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by gatekeeper.barcode.co.il (8.8.5/8.6.12) id JAA02682; Wed, 14 May 1997 09:56:01 +0300 (IDT) X-Authentication-Warning: gatekeeper.barcode.co.il: smap set sender to using -f Received: from localhost.barcode.co.il(127.0.0.1) by gatekeeper.barcode.co.il via smap (V1.3) id sma002677; Wed May 14 09:55:39 1997 Message-ID: <3379624D.5024@barcode.co.il> Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 09:57:17 +0300 From: Nadav Eiron X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; SunOS 5.5 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Snob Art Genre CC: dmaddox@scsn.net, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.1.7 and COMPAT_43 -Reply References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Snob Art Genre wrote: > > On Tue, 13 May 1997, Donald J. Maddox wrote: > > > Change what working code? I admit ignorance of config internals, > > but if seems to me that you would just need to change occurences of: > > > > #ifdef INET > > > > to > > > > #ifndef INETLESS > > > > No? > > I admit ignorance of both C preprocessor workings and kernel code, but > that *sounds* reasonable . . . :) > > Why don't you work up some diffs and submit them to the appropriate > person? > > > Donald J. Maddox > > (dmaddox@scsn.net) > > Ben > > "You have your mind on computers, it seems." I'm afraid there's another point overlooked here. Options like INET and even device npx0 are part of a great(?) BSD heritage. I guess INET was in BSD kernel configs long before FreeBSD was born. On the other hand, it *is* confusing for a newbie to configure a FreeBSD kernel. I think it would be better to just be able to mark to config that some configurations are dangerous, so when config-ing a kernel missing something important it will give a warning such as: ***WARNING*** You are missing the 'INET' option. The configured kernel may not be bootable Even WinNT gives this sort of warning when you disable, say, a SCSI device driver (of fear that it is the controller for the boot disk). I think this will leave us with the freedom to hack, the standard BSD options in the kernel, and will scare off curious newbies from removing important options. Now all that's left is to hack config ;-) Nadav From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 14 00:01:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA06825 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 00:01:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from luke.cpl.net ([206.85.245.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA06805 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 00:01:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (shawn@localhost) by luke.cpl.net (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA11854; Tue, 13 May 1997 16:14:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 16:14:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Shawn Ramsey To: dmaddox@scsn.net cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.1.7 and COMPAT_43 In-Reply-To: <19970513180141.36385@cola68.scsn.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > On Wed, May 14, 1997 at 09:07:13AM +1200, jonc@pinnacle.co.nz wrote: > > On Tue, 13 May 1997, Nadav Eiron wrote: > > > > > jonc@pinnacle.co.nz wrote: > > > > > > > > Hmm, > > > > > > > > Just tried recompiling a kernel for 2.1.7, and removed the COMPAT_43 > > > > option from the list. Upon rebooting, login behaves slightly strangely: > > > > > > Why did you remove COMPAT_43? It's one of the things that's not meant to > > > be removed from the kernel config file (as the comment states). Most > > > noteably it breaks xterm. > > > > The kernel config files do *NOT* say that its a required option (in either > > GENERIC or LINT); they need updating if that's the case. > > > > And as to why, just fooling around with how small a kernel I can get > > that still boots and works.. > > This raises a question that I have often wondered about: > > Why are *required* parts of the system listed in the config file > as _options_? > > I mean, if it's _required_, then it's *not* an _option_; and if it's an > option, it's not required, right? > > It seems to me that this just serves to confuse new users. Why not remove > these "required options" and include required functionality unconditionally? I think the [KEEP THIS!] sets it off(or should) that you shouldnt be removing it. Especially if you don't know what it is for in the first place. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 14 00:20:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA11485 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 00:20:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pppmail.appliedtheory.com (pppmail.appliedtheory.com [204.168.16.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA11473 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 00:20:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [204.168.68.212] by pppmail.appliedtheory.com (8.6.12/3.1.090690-Applied Theory Communications) id DAA16057; Wed, 14 May 1997 03:24:29 -0400 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <19970514025749.AAA26640@jeffalla> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 03:22:23 +0100 To: From: Ken McKittrick Subject: Are these netstat #'s okay??? Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello I'm setting up a tucows mirror, it's using about 50% of a 768K Frac T-1. I'm seeing about 8-10% collisions is this normal/okay? Even acceptable? The network is 10Base-T (20 feet) to a Kinston Hub then a Cisco 2501 router. I just got my FreeBSD 2.2.1 system up and running 48 MEg Ram 1.6 Gig IDE drive and 2.0 Gig IDE drive. Ethernet adapter is PCI card made by Kingston. -> netstat -i Name Mtu Network Address Ipkts Ierrs Opkts Oerrs Coll de0 1500 00.c0.f0.14.f9.7f 330456 0 186901 0 13665 de0 1500 baldcom-net ZONE 330456 0 186901 0 13665 lp0* 1500 0 0 0 0 0 tun0* 1500 0 0 0 0 0 sl0* 552 0 0 0 0 0 lo0 16384 20128 0 20128 0 0 lo0 16384 loopback-net LOC -> iostat 5 120 tty wd0 wd2 cpu tin tout sps tps msps sps tps msps us ni sy in id 0 25 3 0 16.5 13 0 9.1 0 0 0 0 99 0 11 0 0 0.0 51 0 0.0 1 0 0 0 98 0 11 0 0 0.0 127 1 0.0 2 0 1 2 96 0 11 29 2 13.3 51 2 20.9 0 0 0 1 98 1 85 39 2 15.6 112 2 11.9 1 0 1 1 96 7 more hours and I'll be done Ken Ken McKittrick Technical Consultant kmckittr@appliedtheory.net AppliedTheory Communications, Inc. HTML Writers Guild From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 14 00:54:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA14996 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 00:54:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns1.telapex.com ([209.12.20.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA14991 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 00:54:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from edith ([207.78.214.251]) by ns1.telapex.com (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with ESMTP id AAA22255 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 02:57:29 -0500 From: danielh@telapex.com (Daniel Hamilton) To: Subject: FreeBSD Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 02:52:45 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19970514075728.AAA22255@edith> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am interested in becoming a user/developer of FreeBSD. I am an OS fanatic that collects every version of every OS that I can get my hands on...in doing so I've seen some pretty useless OSes...but FreeBSD is not one of them. Useless is OS/2 2.0. I would really appreciate any infromation you could give me about it, including how to get it, and what kind of compilers/languages used with this OS. Thanks, Daniel Hamilton danielh@telapex.com From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 14 01:33:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA22165 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 01:33:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iceberg.anchorage.net. (root@iceberg.anchorage.net [207.14.72.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA22160 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 01:33:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aak.anchorage.net (ai-131 [207.14.72.131]) by iceberg.anchorage.net. (8.6.11/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA07107; Tue, 13 May 1997 23:29:56 -0800 Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 00:23:11 -0800 (AKDT) From: Steve Howe X-Sender: abc@aak.anchorage.net To: Tom Kiblin cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Root logins... In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19970513135409.00914610@bl-mail1.corpeast.baynetworks.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 13 May 1997, Tom Kiblin wrote: > How does one enable Root logins from locations other than the console? I > just want to be able to telnet from any machine in our network and login as > root. > > I've changed the login.access in /etc, but it still doesn't work. i believe that to be the difference between secure and insecure in /etc/ttys gettys. why not su to root? ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sleep: a sign a caffeine deprivation ... http://www.anchorage.net/~un_x ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 14 01:36:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA22804 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 01:36:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iceberg.anchorage.net. (root@iceberg.anchorage.net [207.14.72.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA22788 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 01:36:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aak.anchorage.net (ai-131 [207.14.72.131]) by iceberg.anchorage.net. (8.6.11/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA07120 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 23:33:21 -0800 Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 00:26:36 -0800 (AKDT) From: Steve Howe X-Sender: abc@aak.anchorage.net To: freebsd-questions Subject: parameter expansion Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk t=file.gz.tar.gz echo ${t%.gz} echo ${t%%.gz} i've been trying to figure out the difference between using 1 or 2 "%" in my expansions, but haven't had any luck! whether 1 or 2, i can't see any difference. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 14 02:10:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA28095 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 02:10:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sunsrv5.lrz-muenchen.de (sunsrv5.lrz-muenchen.de [129.187.10.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id CAA28063 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 02:10:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dial218.ppp.lrz-muenchen.de by sunsrv5.lrz-muenchen.de; Wed, 14 May 97 11:10:51 +0200 From: Joachim.Wunder@lrz-muenchen.de (Joachim Wunder) To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: XFree86 & Mouse Cursor Speed Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 09:03:14 GMT Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany) Reply-To: Joachim.Wunder@lrz-muenchen.de Message-ID: <33797f91.360063@mailhost.lrz-muenchen.de> X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99e/32.227 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi! How can I increase the speed of my mouse-cursor under XF863.2 with a mouse connected to my PS/2 mouse port (protocl is PS/2, too)? TIA, Achim From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 14 03:41:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA09988 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 03:41:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from korky.fe.up.pt (korky.fe.up.pt [192.82.214.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id DAA09800 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 03:39:58 -0700 (PDT) From: ee96199@tom.fe.up.pt Received: by korky.fe.up.pt; id AA09265; Wed, 14 May 1997 11:36:54 GMT Received: from localhost by tom.fe.up.pt; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/16Oct95-1216PM) id AA18223; Wed, 14 May 1997 11:38:12 GMT Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 11:38:11 +0000 (GMT) To: David Greenman Cc: Random Junk , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: memory usage In-Reply-To: <199705132330.QAA18420@implode.root.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 13 May 1997, David Greenman wrote: > >can someone explain this top output to me? > > > >Mem: 64M Active, 23M Inact, 21M Wired, 15M Cache, 8332K Buf, 176K Free > >Swap: 262M Total, 42M Used, 220M Free, 16% Inuse This is also one of my greatest questions with FreeBSD's top. > The important figure is "cache". In 2.1.x, cache+free can be used as a rough > indicator of the amount of available memory. However, also note that your > swap usage is fairly high...this probably means that you are near the max and > should get more memory before increasing the ftp limit higher. And with 2.2.x? Since you, David, are the Principal Architect could you explain with some detail what these values mean? > > -DG > > David Greenman > Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project > Jorge PS: I was going to mail a question like this to this mailing list... but someone asked it first... :-) This is really a big World! From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 14 03:48:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA10453 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 03:48:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.barcode.co.il (gatekeeper.barcode.co.il [192.116.93.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA10448 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 03:48:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by gatekeeper.barcode.co.il (8.8.5/8.6.12) id NAA03457; Wed, 14 May 1997 13:46:06 +0300 (IDT) X-Authentication-Warning: gatekeeper.barcode.co.il: smap set sender to using -f Received: from localhost.barcode.co.il(127.0.0.1) by gatekeeper.barcode.co.il via smap (V1.3) id sma003455; Wed May 14 13:45:58 1997 Message-ID: <33799849.23EE@barcode.co.il> Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 13:47:37 +0300 From: Nadav Eiron X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; SunOS 5.5 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Daniel Hamilton CC: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD References: <19970514075728.AAA22255@edith> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Daniel Hamilton wrote: > > I am interested in becoming a user/developer of FreeBSD. I am an OS > fanatic that collects every version of every OS that I can get my hands > on...in doing so I've seen some pretty useless OSes...but FreeBSD is not > one of them. Useless is OS/2 2.0. I would really appreciate any > infromation you could give me about it, including how to get it, and what > kind of compilers/languages used with this OS. > > Thanks, > Daniel Hamilton > > danielh@telapex.com Take a look at http://www.freebsd.org. You can download it or get it on CD for ~$50 including shipping. You get C/C++, Fortran, Ada, Perl, Tcl/Tk, lisp and who knows what else... Look in the ports collection. Nadav From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 14 04:09:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA11709 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 04:09:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from centaure.lcpc.fr (centaure.lcpc.fr [137.121.254.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA11682; Wed, 14 May 1997 04:09:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lpposte.lcpc.fr (lpposte.lcpc.fr [137.121.22.19]) by centaure.lcpc.fr (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA27012; Wed, 14 May 1997 13:08:42 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from 137.121.23.172 ([137.121.23.172]) by lpposte.lcpc.fr (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA12643; Wed, 14 May 1997 13:07:38 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <33799DB6.7B14@lcpc.fr> Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 13:10:45 +0200 From: Jacques Ehrlich Organization: LCPC X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: info@freebsd.org, support@cdrom.com, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Please, help me ! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, Does anybody help me to install Freebsd 2.1.6 from a CDROM ? I am trying to install freebsd on a "Compaq Professional Workstation 5000". 21 conflicts are detected, but I don't know which driver to remove to avoid them. Finally, at the time to install freebsd from CDROM, the following message appear : "No CDROM device found. Please check that your system configuration is correct and that the CDROMdrive is of a supported type." Here are my PC parameters : ---- MISC: Pentium Pro 200 Bus extension ISA,PCI Port LPT at 378 Port COM1 at 3F8 Port COM2 at 2F8 --- CDROM Integrated IDE Controller at 0x1f0 Unit Compaq 8xCDROM Unit n°1 Rev 1.05 Model : MATSHITACD-ROM CR-583 --- DISKS Integrated Fast SCSI controller IRQ 11 ID 0 : ST3217W (2.1 Gbytes) ID 1 : ST3217W (2.1 Gbytes) --- AUDIO ES1868 16bits ESS Adress : 220h Vers688B --- NETWORK Integrated 10/100 TX UTP Controller PCI Bus N°1 Adress I/O : 1400h - 140Eh Ethernet IRQ 11 --- That's all -- Jacques Ehrlich http://www.lcpc.fr/~ehrlich/charmiss/acticm.html http://www.lcpc.fr/LCPC/Bottin/Alphabetique/Jacques.EHRLICH/ Laboratoire Central des Ponts et Chaussees (Lundi, Mercredi, Vendredi) Tél: 33 (1) 40 43 51 20 - Fax: 33 (1) 40 43 65 15. Direction du Personnel et des Services (Mardi, Jeudi) Tél: 33 (1) 40 81 61 66 - Fax: 33 (1) 40 81 74 99 -- From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 14 04:25:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA14484 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 04:25:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from implode.root.com (implode.root.com [198.145.90.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA14479 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 04:25:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by implode.root.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id EAA21755; Wed, 14 May 1997 04:24:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705141124.EAA21755@implode.root.com> X-Authentication-Warning: implode.root.com: localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: ee96199@tom.fe.up.pt cc: Random Junk , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: memory usage In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 14 May 1997 11:38:11 -0000." From: David Greenman Reply-To: dg@root.com Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 04:24:49 -0700 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >And with 2.2.x? Since you, David, are the Principal Architect could you >explain with some detail what these values mean? Hmmm. Well, for 2.2.x, the various VM parameters aren't really very useful for determining memory consumption/shortages in the system since the algorithms as written will tend to keep a fairly precise balance between them at all times - regardless of actual memory usage. The fact that there is no good way other than looking at swap usage to determine current memory demands in FreeBSD 2.2.x is an architectural problem that we've been looking at fixing for several months. Unfortunately, this is a very difficult problem to solve. To best understand what those numbers mean, it's first important to realize that they really weren't meant to be used as any sort of metric for memory consumption, despite the usage/reporting of them in 'top'. The numbers represent the number of VM pages on various internal page queues that the kernel manages. The "active" queue is a queue of pages that the kernel, for a variety of reasons, considers "active". The "inactive" queue is similarly named, but is also used as a way of controlling the amount of dirty pages in the system (pages are moved to the inactive queue prior to being cleaned by the pagedaemon). The cache queue is a queue that holds pages which are clean and not mapped into any process. These pages can be reclaimed immediately at any time except while processing an interrupt. Pages in the cache queue normally contain cached file data. The free queue contains pages that have no useful data and can be used at any time. The "wired" queue is a queue that the kernel uses to store pages that it uses internally (such as for kernel mallocs and other allocations). Pages in filesystem buffers are also put on the wired queue. I suspect that the above information doesn't really help you, however, since it isn't going to help you tune the system any better. For now, the best number to look at is total swap consumption, but keep in mind that once FreeBSD pages something out, it continues to occupy swap space until the memory it is backing is freed (from a process exit, for example). Perhaps even more useful would be to look at page in/out rates...top reports this whenever page in/outs occur. If this rate appears to be fairly high, then chances are that you are low on memory. -DG David Greenman Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 14 04:37:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA18336 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 04:37:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ds1.gl.umbc.edu (ds1.gl.umbc.edu [130.85.3.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA18319 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 04:37:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from snedley (ppp-050.dialup.umbc.edu [130.85.97.50]) by ds1.gl.umbc.edu (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id HAA22354 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 07:37:22 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3379A1C4.7BA4@gl.umbc.edu> Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 07:28:04 -0400 From: Snedley X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b2 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: emacs X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk When I try to invoke emacs I get the message that the file libgcc.a is not found. Do I ned to build this or do I need ot set a link to it? Also is there any support for Iomega zip drives?? From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 14 04:44:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA20521 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 04:44:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id EAA20516 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 04:44:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Wed, 14 May 1997 7:43:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com ([144.54.57.34]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA12408; Wed, 14 May 97 07:43:31 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id HAA04254; Wed, 14 May 1997 07:42:45 -0400 Message-Id: <19970514074244.18423@ct.picker.com> Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 07:42:44 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Daniel Keller , pclarke@apnpc.com.au Cc: FreeBSD Questions List , pclarke@apnpc.com.au Subject: Re: A Newbie Question References: <199705020510.WAA02058@psln1.psln.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: <199705020510.WAA02058@psln1.psln.com>; from Daniel Keller on Thu, May 01, 1997 at 09:23:37PM -0700 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Daniel Keller: |the same thing happened to me when I first installed FreeBSD. I am now |using OS-BS available in the tools directory at ftp.freebsd.com. |I have FreeBSD on the same HD as Win95, but I think it works if it's on a |different HD. when I boot I get a menu of Win95 or FreeBSD and it is set to |default after 15 seconds. |There are 2 files, a beta version and a normal version, I would suggest the |beta. Yes, it works fine with '95 and FreeBSD on separate disks. OS/BS Beta is a really a great boot loader. Main thing to plan for is that OS/BS Beta uses sectors 1-5 (not just sector 1, the MBR) of the first disk to store its loader. If you always install a DOS partition up front on your disks, you'll have no problem as DOS leaves 63 sectors free at the front of the disk. If you're putting FreeBSD at the front of your first disk, you'll want to make sure you do something similar when you partition. See: http://www.freebsd.org/tutorials/multios/multios.html#s2-7-3-2 for details. Randall Hopper From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 14 04:53:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA22997 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 04:53:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from teligent.se (iservern.teligent.se [194.17.198.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA22967 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 04:53:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from datorn.teligent.se (datorn.teligent.se [192.168.2.31]) by teligent.se (8.7/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA05001; Wed, 14 May 1997 10:52:51 +0200 Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 10:50:29 +0200 (MET DST) From: Jakob Alvermark To: Joachim Kuebart cc: spork , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ps don't work in 2.2.1-R In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id EAA22988 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 13 May 1997, Joachim Kuebart wrote: > >> I've installed FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE a couple of weeks ago. Seems to work > > > >Did you install or did you upgrade? > > > >> When I run 'ps' it doesn´t show any processes, it says: > >> ps: proc size mismatch > > > >Sounds like you have an old "ps" looking at a new /proc... > > > >Charles > > > > If htis (what Charles said) is the case, you have to do a "make world install" > in /usr/src in order to get the 2.2.1-REL "ps" and system utilities. Although > -- if you really _had_ the old binaries installed, many other things (like > mount(!)) shouldn't work as well ... Ok, every thing else seems to work, for example I've got four disk mounted, diffrent filesystems. And I've tried to recompile "ps" and it still don´t work. If I don't get it working in another way, I'll try "make world". Thanks, Jakob Alvermark ------------------------------------------------------- Teligent AB, P.O. Box 213, S-149 23 Nynäshamn, Sweden Telephone +46-(0)8 520 660 00 * Fax +46-(0)8 520 193 36 Direct +46-(0)8 520 660 32 * GSM +46-(0)70 792 16 57 From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 14 04:54:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA23183 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 04:54:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from teligent.se (iservern.teligent.se [194.17.198.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA23151 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 04:54:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from datorn.teligent.se (datorn.teligent.se [192.168.2.31]) by teligent.se (8.7/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA04848; Wed, 14 May 1997 10:43:11 +0200 Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 10:40:49 +0200 (MET DST) From: Jakob Alvermark To: "Paul T. Root" cc: spork@super-g.com, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ps don't work in 2.2.1-R In-Reply-To: <199705131705.MAA22400@horton.iaces.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id EAA23171 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 13 May 1997, Paul T. Root wrote: > > > > I've installed FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE a couple of weeks ago. Seems to work > > > > > > Did you install or did you upgrade? > > > > Install. From scratch. Re-partitioned the harddrive. > > > > > > When I run 'ps' it doesn´t show any processes, it says: > > > > ps: proc size mismatch > > > > > > Sounds like you have an old "ps" looking at a new /proc... > > > > Aha.. I don't remember, but I think this problem came up after I > > recompiled the kernel. > > What can I do? Recompile "ps"? > > Well if you did a fresh install, then it can't be old ps and new > proc. But if it started when you did a new kernel, maybe your > config is wrong. Do you have > > options PROCFS Yes, it's there. In both the generic, and the one that's currently running. > If you can why don't you try rebooting an old kernel (either the last > one or the generic), and see if ps works. If it does. Then you've > got a config problem. I'll try that. Thanks! Jakob Alvermark ------------------------------------------------------- Teligent AB, P.O. Box 213, S-149 23 Nynäshamn, Sweden Telephone +46-(0)8 520 660 00 * Fax +46-(0)8 520 193 36 Direct +46-(0)8 520 660 32 * GSM +46-(0)70 792 16 57 From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 14 05:08:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA27723 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 05:08:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ts.shopnet.com (ts.shopnet.com [208.131.136.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA27712 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 05:08:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from deichert@localhost) by ts.shopnet.com (8.8.4/8.6.12) id GAA08126; Wed, 14 May 1997 06:10:27 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 06:10:27 -0600 (MDT) From: Diana X-Sender: deichert@ts.shopnet.com To: Dan Busarow cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Floppy Tape drive support In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The release is 2.1.6, yes ft is part of the kernel but it doesn't support floppy tapes as well as the lft referenced in the archives. There was a pointer to lft that no longer works. I am having some problems with ft that sems others have had also, that's why I decided to try lft. thanks for the info, diana On Tue, 13 May 1997, Dan Busarow wrote: > On Tue, 13 May 1997, Diana wrote: > > While I was searching through the archives for references to floppy tape > > support I saw several references to "lft". Everyone pointed to > > You don't give your release but on 2.2 the ft driver is included > in the generic kernel. > > Just checked a 2.1.5 system and it's included there too. > > I've never used one so I don't know if there is anything special > you need to do in terms of jumpering or cabling the drive to get > it to work, but as far as the kernel is concerned you should > not need to do anything. > > Dan > -- > Dan Busarow 714 443 4172 > DPC Systems / Beach.Net dan@dpcsys.com > Dana Point, California 83 09 EF 59 E0 11 89 B4 8D 09 DB FD E1 DD 0C 82 > > Diana Eichert IT Systems Supervisor Prewitt Mill McKinley Paper Company deichert@wrench.com Tele: 505/270-0751 FAX: 505/873-7925 PGP public key: finger deichert@ts.shopnet.com From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 14 05:33:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA29407 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 05:33:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from linda.fdata.se (linda.fdata.se [159.72.248.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA29402 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 05:33:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Thomas.Sjunnesson@uhregs.mil.se Received: from MIL.SE ([193.241.64.1]) by linda.fdata.se (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id OAA18439 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 14:30:19 +0200 (MET DST) X400-Received: by mta MIL.SE in /PRMD=MIL/ADMD=400NET/C=SE/; Relayed; Wed, 14 May 1997 14:30:45 +0100 X400-Received: by /PRMD=MIL/ADMD=400NET/C=SE/; Relayed; Wed, 14 May 1997 13:26:56 +0100 Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 13:26:56 +0100 X400-Originator: Thomas.Sjunnesson@uhregs.mil.se X400-Recipients: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=MIL/ADMD=400NET/C=SE/;0014800002537813000002] X400-Content-Type: P2-1988 (22) Content-Identifier: Upgrading from 2 Message-ID: <"GUID:Qhe0f7bitHhC42zYLUlWGsg*/G=Thomas/S=Sjunnesson/O=uhregs/PRMD=mil/ADMD=400net/C=se/"@MHS> To: ", O:internet, DDA.rfc-822:freebsd-questions(a)FreeBSD.org, P:se" Subject: Upgrading from 2.1.5 to 2.2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id FAA29403 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello! I m just wondering, is there any problem when you upgrade your FreeBSD from 2.1.5 to 2..2.1? I m running the Apache-server and I m also using it as a DNS-server, so I don t want it to crash while upgrading..... /thomas ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ADB-Technician Thomas Sjunnesson Southern Logistics Regiment Box 521 S-291 25 KRISTIANSTAD E-mail: thomas.sjunnesson@uhregs.mil.se ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 14 05:43:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA29760 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 05:43:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iceberg.anchorage.net. (root@iceberg.anchorage.net [207.14.72.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id FAA29755 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 05:43:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aak.anchorage.net (ai-132 [207.14.72.132]) by iceberg.anchorage.net. (8.6.11/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA07649; Wed, 14 May 1997 03:40:02 -0800 Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 04:33:15 -0800 (AKDT) From: Steve Howe X-Sender: abc@aak.anchorage.net To: Joachim Wunder cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: XFree86 & Mouse Cursor Speed In-Reply-To: <33797f91.360063@mailhost.lrz-muenchen.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 14 May 1997, Joachim Wunder wrote: > Hi! > > How can I increase the speed of my mouse-cursor under XF863.2 with a mouse > connected to my PS/2 mouse port (protocl is PS/2, too)? > > TIA, > Achim RTFM! man xset ... "-m" option ... ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sleep: a sign a caffeine deprivation ... http://www.anchorage.net/~un_x ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 14 06:42:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA09147 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 06:42:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from beowulf.utmb.edu (beowulf.utmb.edu [129.109.59.83]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA09142 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 06:42:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bdodson@localhost) by beowulf.utmb.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA00697; Wed, 14 May 1997 08:38:49 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 08:38:49 -0500 (CDT) From: "M. L. Dodson" Message-Id: <199705141338.IAA00697@beowulf.utmb.edu> To: ben@narcissus.ml.org, nadav@barcode.co.il Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.1.7 and COMPAT_43 -Reply Cc: dmaddox@scsn.net, questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Snob Art Genre wrote: > > > > On Tue, 13 May 1997, Donald J. Maddox wrote: > > > > > Change what working code? I admit ignorance of config internals, > > > but if seems to me that you would just need to change occurences of: > > > > > > #ifdef INET > > > > > > to > > > > > > #ifndef INETLESS > > > > > > No? > > > > I admit ignorance of both C preprocessor workings and kernel code, but > > that *sounds* reasonable . . . :) > > > > Why don't you work up some diffs and submit them to the appropriate > > person? > > > > > Donald J. Maddox > > > (dmaddox@scsn.net) > > > > Ben > > > > "You have your mind on computers, it seems." > > I'm afraid there's another point overlooked here. Options like INET and > even device npx0 are part of a great(?) BSD heritage. I guess INET was > in BSD kernel configs long before FreeBSD was born. > This is the real reason, I would think. Remember that BSD was originally written by the CSRG: Computer Science RESEARCH Group at Berkeley. Options, which for most people are not really optional, ;-), may be optional in a research environment. Besides, all the books I have ever read on BSD system administration make a point of the "nonoptional" options. We already get enough complaints that there are no books about BSD (even though there are). Why invalidate the discussion of kernel configuration in these books by leaving these "options" out? > On the other hand, it *is* confusing for a newbie to configure a FreeBSD > kernel. I think it would be better to just be able to mark to config > that some configurations are dangerous, so when config-ing a kernel > missing something important it will give a warning such as: > > ***WARNING*** > You are missing the 'INET' option. > The configured kernel may not be bootable > > Even WinNT gives this sort of warning when you disable, say, a SCSI > device driver (of fear that it is the controller for the boot disk). > > I think this will leave us with the freedom to hack, the standard BSD > options in the kernel, and will scare off curious newbies from removing > important options. I wouldn't mind this, although I don't see this as a big issue. > Now all that's left is to hack config ;-) If you feel the need. > > Nadav > Bud Dodson -- M. L. Dodson bdodson@scms.utmb.edu 409-772-2178 FAX: 409-772-1790 From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 14 06:47:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA09265 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 06:47:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA09260 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 06:47:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Wed, 14 May 1997 9:46:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com ([144.54.57.34]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01234; Wed, 14 May 97 09:46:43 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA04943; Wed, 14 May 1997 09:45:58 -0400 Message-Id: <19970514094557.16945@ct.picker.com> Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 09:45:57 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Steve Howe Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: XFree86 & Mouse Cursor Speed References: <33797f91.360063@mailhost.lrz-muenchen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: ; from Steve Howe on Wed, May 14, 1997 at 04:33:15AM -0800 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Steve Howe: |On Wed, 14 May 1997, Joachim Wunder wrote: | |> Hi! |> |> How can I increase the speed of my mouse-cursor under XF863.2 with a mouse |> connected to my PS/2 mouse port (protocl is PS/2, too)? | |RTFM! man xset ... "-m" option ... You might cut some slack. That one's not that easy to find if you haven't worked with X alot. Not like "what are the options for startx". Randall Hopper |------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Sleep: a sign a caffeine deprivation ... http://www.anchorage.net/~un_x |------------------------------------------------------------------------- | | From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 14 07:02:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA09946 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 07:02:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA09939 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 07:02:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Wed, 14 May 1997 9:59:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com ([144.54.57.34]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA02129; Wed, 14 May 97 09:59:40 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA05019; Wed, 14 May 1997 09:58:50 -0400 Message-Id: <19970514095849.44716@ct.picker.com> Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 09:58:49 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Nadav Eiron Cc: Dan Harty , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: I did bad things to my disk References: <336DE3C8.26E7@accesscomm.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: ; from Nadav Eiron on Mon, May 05, 1997 at 06:02:34PM +0300 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Nadav Eiron: |On Mon, 5 May 1997, Dan Harty wrote: |> IE, would sd1a change to sd1b ? | |No! Your situation is much worse! | |The FreeBSD boot code *always* expects the root filesystem to be on |partition 'a' of the *first* BSD slice on the disk. Now, what used to be |the first BSD slice on your disk now became the second (because there's a |new BSD slice in front of it), so the boot code cannot find the root |partition. Having two FreeBSD slices on the same disk is a mess. Avoid it |at all costs. If it cannot be avoided, you should probably make a new Its sad that FreeBSD doesn't support this (I've posted about it before). If I tell my boot manager to boot FreeBSD's off slice 3, and my boot manager loads slice 3's boot record and gives it control, its just flat dumb for FreeBSD to go out and "re-divine" which slice contains the FS I want to be root. It's the one in the slice I booted off of, dog'gone it! Why doesn't FreeBSD just write the root partition for a slice (e.g. wd1s3a) in the slice boot record? We could even keep the hack [ws]d1a alias around -- just redefine it to mean the "active" root partition rather than "first" root partition. Randall Hopper From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 14 07:20:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA10839 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 07:20:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from comsun.chungnam.ac.kr (comsun.chungnam.ac.kr [168.188.48.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA10825; Wed, 14 May 1997 07:20:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from belldandy.chungnam.ac.kr (belldandy.chungnam.ac.kr [168.188.48.102]) by comsun.chungnam.ac.kr (8.6.9H1/8.9.11h) with SMTP id XAA00329; Wed, 14 May 1997 23:21:21 +0900 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970514232456.006b242c@comsun.chungnam.ac.kr> X-Sender: jypark@comsun.chungnam.ac.kr X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 23:24:57 +0900 To: Jacques Ehrlich , info@FreeBSD.ORG, support@cdrom.com, questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Juyoung Park Subject: Re: Please, help me ! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'd like to recommend to read FreeBSD Handbook.. If you do, check this 1> If your CD-Rom and HD are in same IDE controller 2> How's the partition of 1st master HD 's Check whether your system is folled by ----------------+ 1st IDE controller | ----------------+----------------------+--------------------------+ | | +----------------+ +------------------+ | DOS | | IDE CD-rom | | | | | 400M +----------------+ +------------------+ | | | FreeBSD | | | | | | | | | +----------------+ ----------------+ 2ndIDE controller | ----------------+----------------------+ | +----------------+ | | | | | | | Anything | | | | | | | | | +----------------+ Hope this may help you.. >---- >MISC: > >Pentium Pro 200 >Bus extension ISA,PCI >Port LPT at 378 >Port COM1 at 3F8 >Port COM2 at 2F8 > >--- >CDROM >Integrated IDE Controller at 0x1f0 >Unit Compaq 8xCDROM $)C >Unit n0± >Rev 1.05 >Model : MATSHITACD-ROM CR-583 > >--- >DISKS >Integrated Fast SCSI controller IRQ 11 >ID 0 : ST3217W (2.1 Gbytes) >ID 1 : ST3217W (2.1 Gbytes) > >--- >AUDIO >ES1868 16bits ESS >Adress : 220h >Vers688B > >--- >NETWORK >Integrated 10/100 TX UTP Controller >PCI Bus N0± >Adress I/O : 1400h - 140Eh >Ethernet >IRQ 11 > >--- >That's all >-- >Jacques Ehrlich >http://www.lcpc.fr/~ehrlich/charmiss/acticm.html >http://www.lcpc.fr/LCPC/Bottin/Alphabetique/Jacques.EHRLICH/ > >Laboratoire Central des Ponts et Chaussees (Lundi, Mercredi, Vendredi) >Tiì: 33 (1) 40 43 51 20 - Fax: 33 (1) 40 43 65 15. > >Direction du Personnel et des Services (Mardi, Jeudi) >Tiì: 33 (1) 40 81 61 66 - Fax: 33 (1) 40 81 74 99 >-- > > Ju Young Park --------------------------------- computer communications lab, Chungnam Nat. 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South KOREA +82-42-822-2577 ------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 14 07:26:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA11157 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 07:26:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from neutral-zone.datadesign.com (datadesign.com [198.231.73.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA11151 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 07:26:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from k7.datadesign.com (k7.datadesign.com [172.23.10.60]) by neutral-zone with ESMTP (DuhMail/2.0) id JAA00584; Wed, 14 May 1997 09:30:26 -0400 Received: (from wongk@localhost) by k7.datadesign.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA19390; Wed, 14 May 1997 09:59:23 -0400 Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 09:59:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Ken Wong To: Freebsd questions Subject: JVC CDROM write Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk hello all, Is the JVC cdrom write supported under FreeBSD? It does 4X read 2X write. TIA Ken From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 14 07:29:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA11332 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 07:29:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.EUnet.hu (www.eunet.hu [193.225.28.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA11320 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 07:28:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.EUnet.hu, id QAA04903; Wed, 14 May 1997 16:28:13 +0200 Received: (from zgabor@localhost) by CoDe.hu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA00546; Wed, 14 May 1997 15:03:49 +0200 (MET DST) From: Zahemszky Gabor Message-Id: <199705141303.PAA00546@CoDe.hu> Subject: Re: parameter expansion To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org (FreeBSD questions) Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 15:03:48 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: un_x@anchorage.net In-Reply-To: from Steve Howe at "May 14, 97 00:26:36 am" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL11 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > t=file.gz.tar.gz > echo ${t%.gz} > echo ${t%%.gz} > > i've been trying to figure out the difference between > using 1 or 2 "%" in my expansions, but haven't had any luck! > whether 1 or 2, i can't see any difference. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Well, it has any difference, if you use such joker characters, that match more than one characters (of course, there is only one: *): $ echo $MAIL /var/mail/zgabor $ echo ${MAIL%/*} /var/mail $ echo ${MAIL%%/*} $ or another one: $ echo {MAIL#*/} var/mail/zgabor $ echo ${MAIL##*/} zgabor $ Bye, Gabor PS: is it works in your sh? On my 2.1.5 from sh, I got only: Syntax error: Bad substitution -- #!/bin/ksh Z='21N16I25C25E30, 40M30E33E25T15U!' ;IFS=' ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ ';set $Z;for i { [[ $i = ? ]]&&print $i&&break;[[ $i = ??? ]]&&j=$i&&i=${i%?};typeset -i40 i=8#$i;print -n ${i#???};[[ "$j" = ??? ]]&&print -n "${j#??} "&&j=;typeset +i i;};IFS=' 0123456789 ';set $Z;X=;for i { [[ $i = , ]]&&i=2;[[ $i = ?? ]]||typeset -l i;X="$X $i";typeset +l i;};print "$X" From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 14 08:18:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA14447 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 08:18:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.PII.COM (pii.com [192.77.209.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA14442 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 08:18:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from PII.COM by PII.COM (4.1/SMI-4.4) id AA05937; Wed, 14 May 97 08:21:25 PDT Received: from PII-Message_Server by pii.com with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 14 May 1997 08:22:13 -0700 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 08:16:51 -0700 From: Robert Clark To: root@cola47.scsn.net, questions@FreeBSD.ORG, dmaddox@scsn.net Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.1.7 and COMPAT_43 -Reply -Reply Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk How about a #ifdef BEGINNER or NOVICE that causes all 'nonoptional' items to be included. [RC] >>> "Donald J. Maddox" 05/13/97 08:08pm >>> On Tue, May 13, 1997 at 07:30:22PM -0700, Snob Art Genre wrote: > On Tue, 13 May 1997, Donald J. Maddox wrote: > > > On Tue, May 13, 1997 at 06:16:43PM -0700, Snob Art Genre wrote: > > > What if I am a programmer who for some reason wants an "INET"-less kernel? > > > The way the system is now, I can take out the INET option and then fix all > > > the holes left by its absence. Under your system, I would also have to > > > hack config(8). > > > > > > Perhaps the existing system should have more obvious documentation -- on > > > my 2.1.7 system neither INET nor COMPAT_43 are marked as mandatory in > > > GENERIC nor in LINT. > > > > Ok... But since an INET-less kernel is clearly the exception, wouldn't > > it make more sense to have an 'INETLESS' kernel option rather than > > an 'INET' option that is really not an option for most people? > > Why change working code when a trivial change to the documentation would > accomplish the same thing? Change what working code? I admit ignorance of config internals, but if seems to me that you would just need to change occurences of: #ifdef INET to #ifndef INETLESS No? -- Donald J. Maddox (dmaddox@scsn.net) From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 14 08:21:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA14595 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 08:21:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA14589 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 08:21:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Wed, 14 May 1997 11:21:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com ([144.54.57.34]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA06016; Wed, 14 May 97 11:21:02 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA05505; Wed, 14 May 1997 11:20:17 -0400 Message-Id: <19970514112017.65166@ct.picker.com> Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 11:20:17 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Robert Clark Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I did bad things to my disk -Reply References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: ; from Robert Clark on Wed, May 14, 1997 at 08:11:21AM -0700 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Robert Clark: |Have you tried juggling the partition table entries? I've fixed oddball problems this way before. Yes, I ended up going that route. Rather than digging into the boot code, I did what was suggested and just stuck to one root partition per disk. What I'd like to do is have two slices on the same disk, one running 2.2 and one running 3.0-current, and which slice I boot off of determines which root is booted of (i.e. boot wd1s2, root=wd1s2a; boot wd1s3, root=wd1s3a). No such luck. For now I'll just stick with 2.2. Thanks for the reply. Randall | |>>> Randall Hopper 05/14/97 06:58am >>> |Nadav Eiron: | |On Mon, 5 May 1997, Dan Harty wrote: | |> IE, would sd1a change to sd1b ? | | | |No! Your situation is much worse! | | | |The FreeBSD boot code *always* expects the root filesystem to be on | |partition 'a' of the *first* BSD slice on the disk. Now, what used to be | |the first BSD slice on your disk now became the second (because there's a | |new BSD slice in front of it), so the boot code cannot find the root | |partition. Having two FreeBSD slices on the same disk is a mess. Avoid it | |at all costs. If it cannot be avoided, you should probably make a new | |Its sad that FreeBSD doesn't support this (I've posted about it before). |If I tell my boot manager to boot FreeBSD's off slice 3, and my boot |manager loads slice 3's boot record and gives it control, its just flat |dumb for FreeBSD to go out and "re-divine" which slice contains the FS I |want to be root. It's the one in the slice I booted off of, dog'gone it! | |Why doesn't FreeBSD just write the root partition for a slice (e.g. wd1s3a) |in the slice boot record? We could even keep the hack [ws]d1a alias around |-- just redefine it to mean the "active" root partition rather than "first" |root partition. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 14 09:00:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA16427 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 09:00:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chaski.com (chaski-gate.orbis.net [205.164.72.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA16422 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 09:00:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mike@localhost) by chaski.com (8.8.3/8.8.3) id KAA20009 for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 14 May 1997 10:08:14 GMT From: michael dorin Message-Id: <199705141008.KAA20009@chaski.com> Subject: pppd problem To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 10:08:14 +0000 () X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Help! I can't seem to connect to anything using pppd. I have the ppp device built into my kernel. Using netscape I do a manual login and then type pppd modem I hit continue on the netscape, everything seams to go fine, except I cannot connect to anything. I get lots of ioctl errors on the bsd box. Any idea whats wrong? -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 14 09:01:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA16504 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 09:01:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from neptune.neptune.net (doug@neptune.neptune.net [204.107.103.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA16499 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 09:01:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from doug@localhost) by neptune.neptune.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA07169 for FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 14 May 1997 08:58:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 08:58:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705141558.IAA07169@neptune.neptune.net> From: Doug Jolley Subject: FIXIT doesn't fit! To: undisclosed-recipients:; Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm trying to prepare a FIXIT 1.44" floppy from DOS using the same procedure specified in the installation instructions which successfully produced a boot floppy. My source is the Walnut Creek CD-ROM ver. 2.1.7. After grinding away for a bit, fdimage complains, "Sector not found". I interpret that as meaning that there is no more room. I note that the size of the FIXIT image is 1,228,800 while the size of the BOOT image is only 1,136,128. I thought that a disk image had to be exactly the size of the disk as it is just a bit for bit image of the disk. Any suggestions? Thanks for any help. ... doug ______________________________________________________________________________ Doug Jolley mailto://doug@cybernautics.net http://www.cybernautics.net Don't bogart that file, my friend. Net it over to me. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 14 09:44:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA19242 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 09:44:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (passer.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.110.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA19237 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 09:44:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (cschuber@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.5/8.6.10) with SMTP id JAA20761 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 09:44:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705141644.JAA20761@passer.osg.gov.bc.ca> X-Authentication-Warning: passer.osg.gov.bc.ca: cschuber@localhost didn't use HELO protocol Reply-to: cschuber@uumail.gov.bc.ca X-Mailer: MH X-Sender: cschuber To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Getty Problems Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 09:44:28 -0700 From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I don't normally subscribe to this list, so would you please reply to me directly. I just upraded from 2.1.6 to 2.2.1 using the CDROM shipped by Walnut Creek CDROM. Getty repeats forever, (actually getty dies and init restarts it and sleeps for 30 seconds after too many gettys have been started). When getty dies it prints the message "inappropriate ioctl for device /dev/ttyv0". It does the same for all ttyv? devices. I can log in for 30 seconds but get killed when the next getty starts. My ttys file has the following # # @(#)ttys 5.1 (Berkeley) 4/17/89 # # name getty type status comments # # This entry needed for asking password when init goes to single-user mode # If you want to be asked for password, change "secure" to "insecure" here console none unknown off secure # ttyv0 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25 on secure # Virtual terminals ttyv1 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25 on secure ttyv2 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25 on secure ttyv3 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25 off secure # Serial terminals ttyd0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" unknown off secure ttyd1 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" unknown off secure ttyd2 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" unknown off secure ttyd3 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" unknown off secure # Pseudo terminals ttyp0 none network ttyp1 none network . . . ttySv none network It does this with the generic kernel shipped with the CDROM and a custom kernel that I normally use (which delete devices I don't have). Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 UNIX Support OV/VM: BCSC02(CSCHUBER) ITSD BITNET: CSCHUBER@BCSC02.BITNET Government of BC Internet: cschuber@uumail.gov.bc.ca cschuber@bcsc02.gov.bc.ca "Quit spooling around, JES do it." From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 14 09:54:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA19913 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 09:54:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rusnet.ml.org ([204.171.173.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA19899 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 09:54:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (admin@localhost) by rusnet.ml.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA01819; Wed, 14 May 1997 12:52:41 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 12:52:40 -0400 (EDT) From: System administrator Reply-To: System administrator To: Joachim Kuebart cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: lost blocks on HDD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 13 May 1997, Joachim Kuebart wrote: > > On 13-May-97 at 05:10:26 System administrator wrote: > >I think I'm missing about 10Mb on my HDD. > > How the heck do you know? I lost quite a lot of files, but amount of used space didn't change. Is there any way to restore or delete these lost files? Thanks, Anton From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 14 10:03:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA20412 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 10:03:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thor.pla-net.net (root@thor.pla-net.net [205.216.10.251]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA20405 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 10:03:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 205.216.11.218 (mercury10.ts.pla-net.net) by thor.pla-net.net (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA05927; Wed, 14 May 1997 12:02:14 -0500 Message-Id: <3379FF6D.5077@pla-net.net> Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 12:07:56 -0600 From: Mike Bennett Reply-To: mbdesign@thor.pla-net.net Organization: post-trib.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Macintosh; I; PPC) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: mouse problems Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk hello- i recently installed freeBSD 2.2.1 on a pc in my office. everything works great except i can't get the mouse to move. I'm running a HP p133 40mb / 1.3 gig standard keyboard and 2 -button mouse. can some tell me what my settings should be? thanks- mike bennett -- Mike Bennett Online Operations Coordinator - post-trib.com mailto:mbdesign@pla-net.net http://www.post-trib.com 219.881.3170 From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 14 10:08:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA20838 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 10:08:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netdev.comsys.com (COMSYS.COM [192.94.236.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA20832 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 10:08:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from neisse.europa.com ([206.163.12.40]) by netdev.comsys.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA02578 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 11:08:25 GMT Message-ID: <3379F131.167EB0E7@comsys.com> Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 10:06:57 -0700 From: Alex Huppenthal X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Inodes truncated using dump/restore on 2.2.1 with DAT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have an HP DAT drive. Tar backups work fine, dump and cpio both complain that INODES are being truncated. Any clues on how this affects restore and why it happens? -alex From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 14 10:25:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA21961 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 10:25:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from horton.iaces.com (root@horton.iaces.com [204.147.87.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA21943 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 10:25:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from proot@localhost) by horton.iaces.com (8.8.5/8.8.4) id MAA14312; Wed, 14 May 1997 12:25:11 -0500 (CDT) From: "Paul T. Root" Message-Id: <199705141725.MAA14312@horton.iaces.com> Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.1.7 and COMPAT_43 -Reply -Reply To: ROBERTC@PII.COM (Robert Clark) Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 12:25:11 -0500 (CDT) Cc: root@cola47.scsn.net, questions@FreeBSD.ORG, dmaddox@scsn.net In-Reply-To: from Robert Clark at "May 14, 97 08:16:51 am" X-Organization: !nterprise Networking Services - ACES X-Phone: (612) 663-1979 X-Fax: (612) 663-8030 X-Page: (800) SKY-PAGE PIN: 537-7270 X-Address: 200 S. 5th St., Suite 1100 X-Address: Minneapolis, MN 55402 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In a previous message, Robert Clark said: > How about a > > #ifdef BEGINNER or NOVICE > > that causes all 'nonoptional' items to be included. I've thought about writting a graphical config program with TK or some such. My problem is I have very little time for creative stuff like that. And I'm not a programmer anymore. Anyway, something like this could make configuring a kernel for a newbie a pretty painless experience. > > Change what working code? I admit ignorance of config internals, > but if seems to me that you would just need to change occurences of: > > #ifdef INET > > to > > #ifndef INETLESS > > No? > > -- > > > Donald J. Maddox > (dmaddox@scsn.net) > > > > -- "I would like to deny the statement that I think basketball is a matter of life and death. I feel it's much more important that that." --Lee Rose, University of North Carolina Charlotte basketball coach From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 14 10:43:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA23112 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 10:43:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pacecar.infospeedway.net ([207.43.207.96]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA23094 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 10:43:31 -0700 (PDT) From: tomt@infospeedway.net Received: (from tomt@localhost) by pacecar.infospeedway.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) id MAA24382; Wed, 14 May 1997 12:41:48 -0500 Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 12:41:48 -0500 Message-Id: <199705141741.MAA24382@pacecar.infospeedway.net> To: questions@freebsd.org X-URL: mailto:questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Lynx, Version 2-4-2 X-Personal_name: Tom Subject: mailto:questions@freebsd.org Jed Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi Mark, I found your BSD info to be most helpful. I have been trying to setup "jed" on a freebsd server for use at work. I can get it to run, but it is not using color coding like the same editor does on my pc at home running linux. Do you know what I need to do or where I can look for the information I need to do this? Thanks, Tom From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 14 10:48:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA23438 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 10:48:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Gawain.Houston-InterWeb.COM (interweb.hou.neo.net [206.109.6.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA23429 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 10:48:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Merlyn.Houston-InterWeb.COM (merlyn.houston-interweb.com [206.109.147.69]) by Gawain.Houston-InterWeb.COM (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA00261 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 12:50:56 GMT Message-ID: <3379FB1F.167E@Houston-InterWeb.COM> Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 12:49:19 -0500 From: "Richard J. Finn" Organization: Houston InterWeb Design, Inc. & NeoSoft, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; IRIX 6.2 IP22) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: support@freebsd.org Subject: time zone Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk How do I change the time zone in FreeBSD 2.2? On my SGI I simply change a line in /etc/TIMEZONE to say TZ=CST6CDT. -- Richard J. Finn rfinn@houston-interweb.com CTO - Houston InterWeb Design, Inc. R&D Programmer - NeoSoft, Inc. http://www.houston-interweb.com/rfinn/ From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 14 10:55:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA23792 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 10:55:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from beowulf.utmb.edu (beowulf.utmb.edu [129.109.59.83]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA23787 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 10:55:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bdodson@localhost) by beowulf.utmb.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA01858; Wed, 14 May 1997 12:52:42 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 12:52:42 -0500 (CDT) From: "M. L. Dodson" Message-Id: <199705141752.MAA01858@beowulf.utmb.edu> To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, mike@chaski.com Subject: Re: pppd problem X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk You will be a lot more likely to get help if you include at least a little information on: 1. what you are trying to do, 2. how you are going about it (the posting did not really explain this), 3. why you want to do it this way (maybe you misunderstood), 4. at least the version of FreeBSD, 5. (preferably, in this case), what you did to set up your modem, your serial ports, a little bit about your ISP's expectations for a ppp connection, etc. For example, pppd is most often used as a ppp SERVER, not a client. ppp (ijppp) is most often used as a client. Bud Dodson > > > Help! I can't seem to connect to anything using pppd. > > I have the ppp device built into my kernel. > > Using netscape I do a manual login and > then type pppd modem > > > I hit continue on the netscape, everything > seams to go fine, except I cannot connect to anything. > > I get lots of ioctl errors on the bsd box. > > Any idea whats wrong? > > -Mike > -- M. L. Dodson bdodson@scms.utmb.edu 409-772-2178 FAX: 409-772-1790 From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 14 11:03:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA24176 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 11:03:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from coconut.blueberry.co.uk ([194.70.52.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA24152; Wed, 14 May 1997 11:03:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nik@localhost) by coconut.blueberry.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA03103; Wed, 14 May 1997 19:03:02 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <19970514190302.20618@blueberry.co.uk> Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 19:03:02 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: questions@freebsd.org Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is Thot (WYSIWIG editor) for you? References: <14271.863600208@time.cdrom.com> <3379F24B.934@fps.biblos.unal.edu.co> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69e In-Reply-To: <3379F24B.934@fps.biblos.unal.edu.co>; from Pedro F. Giffuni on Wed, May 14, 1997 at 10:11:39AM -0700 Organization: Blueberry New Media Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, May 14, 1997 at 10:11:39AM -0700, Pedro F. Giffuni wrote: > Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > > > What I am pitching is for is that if Thot is good we can start advertising it > > > and hopefully standardize our internal documentation based on its format. > > > Internal documentation meaning things like : reports, articles, etc... > > > > But we already have such a standard and it's called SGML.... > > SGML is a format, Thot is a toolset and an editor. Correct me if I'm > wrong, but I haven't seen a good SGML tool in our ports tree. Sort of right, sort of wrong. > Thot produces Latex and HTML. AFAIK HTML is a subset of SGML, so I > guess Thot fits into the "standard". My $0.02 follows. I haven't used Thot (no Motif license) but I have trawled the FTP site, and read the docs. Doubtless John Fieber will jump in if I have any of this wrong. SGML is a meta-language. It describes other languages. HTML is one language that can be described by SGML. There are many others. One of these others is called DocBook. Current thinking on the FreeBSD documentation project (of which I am not a member) is to move from using the LinuxDoc TeX format to writing documents marked up according to the DocBook style. Once this is done, HTML can be produced, as can plain text, PostScript and so on. DocBook is also *much* more expressive than HTML is. For example, a snippet of some docs I'm converting to DocBook (and will then be submitting to the project as a tutorial) is /var/tmp/root now contains all the files that should be placed in appropriate locations below /. You now have to go through each of these files, determining how they differ from your existing files. This is not a task that can be automated (at the moment). Note that some of the files that will have been installed in /var/tmp/root have a leading '.'. Make sure you use As you can see, there is extra markup in there to denote things like commands, and filenames. There are many, many more. This sort of verbosity in the markup is a Good Thing. It allows more useful searches of the information to be carried out. It makes it easier to ensure that information is presented consistently. And it retains as much semantic information about the documentation as possible. Eventually, *all* FreeBSD project documentation will be written with DocBook, in much the same way as it's currently written in LinuxDoc. What is needed, as far as I can tell, is a decent environment for editing these files. Ideally, it should :- 1 Understand an SGML DTD, and prevent you creating invalid documents according to the specification 2 Have an editor that makes editing DocBook as painless as possible. Drop down lists of styles. A sample 'WYSIWYG' display[1], that sort of thing 3 Make it easy to convert DocBook documents to other formats [1] I *know* this term cannot really be applied to semantic markup. However, an editor that supported variable-width fonts, allowed the tags to be hidden, showed different marked up sections in different colours/styles, and was user configurable, would be very handy. We don't have a one stop shop that does all that. Yet. The SGML tools take care of point 1. But they don't do it interactively. It's like writing code, you have the "Edit; Compile; Fix; Compile" cycle. We don't have anything close to 2. The nearest product, as far as I can tell, would be SoftQuad's Author/Editor, which doesn't run on Intel unices anyway (it does, however, work with Win3.1/95, how are the WINE folks getting on :-) ). More info on it at http://www.softquad.co.uk/products/authored/ If my understanding of Thot is correct, *Thot does not do this*. It uses it's own styles and is not SGML aware. Point 3 is handled. At least, I know of (and use) a DocBook -> HTML converter. DocBook -> Text can be kludged with Lynx. Right now, I do all this with Xemacs, the SGML tools that come with 2.2, back fitted to 2.1.7, and a Makefile to automate the conversions. It's not pretty, but it works. John Fieber's documentation at http://fallout.campusview.indiana.edu/~jfieber/docbook/ was invaluable in getting me kickstarted. IMHO, what's needed is for people with an interest in the documentation to build a nice editing environment (based around whichever editor people feel most comfortable with), all the necessary tools, and some samples of documentation -- a cookbook, if you will -- that makes it simpler for people who have the urge to get involved. Plus, of course, documentation so that people can use this. Make it available as a package/port, and make sure it works across as many versions of FreeBSD as possible. I can do some of this. I could probably port the tools (tho' I've never attempted a port before). I could write some of the first-time user documentation. I could write sample documents to show the range of DocBook markup available. But, I can't do all of it. And I'm probably not qualified to anyway, since I have my own questions for the Doc project gurus to answer. Thoughts? I've cc'd this to the 'doc' mailing list, which is (I guess) where this sort of discussion should really be taking place, instead of on questions-. N -- --+=[ Blueberry Hill Blueberry New Media ]=+-- --+=[ http://www.blueberry.co.uk/ 1/9 Chelsea Harbour Design Centre, ]=+-- --+=[ WebMaster@blueberry.co.uk London, England, SW10 0XE ]=+-- --+=[ Those who do not read Dilbert are doomed to repeat it ]ENTP From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 14 11:10:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA24616 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 11:10:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mpeks.tomsk.su (mpeks.tomsk.su [193.124.182.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA24531 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 11:09:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by mpeks.tomsk.su (8.6.11/8.6.9) with UUCP id CAA26920; Thu, 15 May 1997 02:07:27 +0800 Received: (from vas@localhost) by vas.tomsk.su (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA01384; Thu, 15 May 1997 01:51:48 +0800 (TSD) From: "Victor A. Sudakov" Message-Id: <199705141751.BAA01384@vas.tomsk.su> Subject: Re: Is there a way to install just the Kernel Sources To: kerrym@metro.tas.gov.au (Kerry Morse) Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 01:51:47 +0800 (TSD) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19970513094839.00c5b524@147.109.164.241> from "Kerry Morse" at "May 13, 97 09:48:39 am" Organization: Tomsk Region Education Department X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Kerry Morse wrote: > I'm running FreeBSD 2.2.1 and 'forgot' to install the Kernel Sources, > now I want to rebuild my kernel. Is there a way to just add one bit.. Go to the src directory on your CD-ROM and run as root: ./install.sh sys -- Victor Sudakov http://www.tomsk.su/r/persons/vas.htm From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 14 11:11:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA24768 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 11:11:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fireball.blast.net (fireball.blast.net [204.141.163.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA24744 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 11:11:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from flashpoint.blast.net (flashpoint.blast.net [204.141.163.62]) by fireball.blast.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA05838 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 14:09:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199705141809.OAA05838@fireball.blast.net> From: "Pat McPartland" To: "FBSD questions" Subject: configure 3com 3c509 combo for 10baseT Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 14:05:42 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk How do I configure my 3com 3c509 card to use 10baseT instead of bnc Pat Patrick McPartland mcp@blast.net From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 14 11:13:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA24985 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 11:13:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cedb.dpcsys.com (cedb.DPCSYS.com [209.25.4.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA24980 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 11:13:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dan@localhost) by cedb.dpcsys.com (8.8.5/8.8.2) with SMTP id SAA19947; Wed, 14 May 1997 18:13:38 GMT Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 11:13:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Busarow To: lars.falch@dbergstrom.dk cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2.2.1-RELEASE problem? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 14 May 1997 lars.falch@dbergstrom.dk wrote: > I have been trying to install 2.2.1-RELEASE several time - but > everytime I get the same error. [ ... ] > ld.so failed: Can't find shared library "libdes.so.3.0" I just installed one yesterday and had no problems so it's not a corrupt distribution. Course I installed DES, maybe something is always expecting DES? I'd suggest downloading and installing the des files (2.2.1-RELEASE/des/des.* + install.sh). Dan -- Dan Busarow 714 443 4172 DPC Systems / Beach.Net dan@dpcsys.com Dana Point, California 83 09 EF 59 E0 11 89 B4 8D 09 DB FD E1 DD 0C 82 From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 14 11:38:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA26606 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 11:38:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from super-g.inch.com (super-g.com [204.178.32.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA26601 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 11:38:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (spork@localhost) by super-g.inch.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA07616 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 14:47:58 GMT Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 14:47:58 +0000 (GMT) From: spork X-Sender: spork@super-g.inch.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: CVS/ports question Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I blindly did a CVS update of the /usr/ports hierarchy using the example file in /usr/share/examples/cvsup on a 2.2.1 machine. Looking at the CVS log, I saw that all it did was neatly descend into each directory and delete the Makefile for each port (I chose to install the ports collection during a re-install). Going through and actually *reading* the ports cvsupfile, I see it's for ports-current, which I suppose explains the above behaviour. So my question is, can I use CVSUP to get ports-2.2?? I really like having everything local. I also noticed that dependancies are now fetched automatically, which is very nice... Thanks, Charles From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 14 12:49:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA00482 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 12:49:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dfw-ix4.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix4.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA00476 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 12:49:30 -0700 (PDT) From: trstew@ix.netcom.com Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix4.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id OAA21599; Wed, 14 May 1997 14:48:57 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 14:48:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: from dby-ct2-19.ix.netcom.com(205.186.164.83) by dfw-ix4.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id sma021572; Wed May 14 14:48:45 1997 To: questions@freebsd.org Cc: support@cdrom.com Message-Id: <199751416852441@ix.netcom.com> Subject: Unable to get x windows working X-Mailer: NETCOMplete v3.20, from NETCOM On-Line Communications, Inc. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Help! I have Pentium, 32MB RAM, WIN95 on 1st 1GB partition, BSD(2.1.6) on 2nd 1GB partion,Using boot manager. Running S3 3D virge graphics controller with 3D MultiSynic NEC monitor, ps/2 mouse and keyboard connection. Unable to configure mouse using /stand/sysinstall: recommended to use device /dev/mse0 for bus mouse, when I apply this(using any protocol setting) it reboots the PC. I have also tried other protocol and device combinations. Please tell me if mouse,video card and monitor are supported. Would like very much to use X-windows. Thanks, Tim Stewart From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 14 13:10:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA01579 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 13:10:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iceberg.anchorage.net. (root@iceberg.anchorage.net [207.14.72.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA01559 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 13:10:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aak.anchorage.net (ai-129 [207.14.72.129]) by iceberg.anchorage.net. (8.6.11/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA09002; Wed, 14 May 1997 11:07:20 -0800 Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 12:00:30 -0800 (AKDT) From: Steve Howe X-Sender: abc@aak.anchorage.net Reply-To: Steve Howe To: Zahemszky Gabor cc: FreeBSD questions , un_x@anchorage.net Subject: Re: parameter expansion In-Reply-To: <199705141303.PAA00546@CoDe.hu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 14 May 1997, Zahemszky Gabor wrote: > > t=file.gz.tar.gz > > echo ${t%.gz} > > echo ${t%%.gz} > > > > i've been trying to figure out the difference between > > using 1 or 2 "%" in my expansions, but haven't had any luck! > > whether 1 or 2, i can't see any difference. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Well, it has a difference, if you use joker characters that match > more than one character (of course, there is only one: *): you are right. it only makes a difference if you use "*", which will match the longest suffix possible. > $ echo $MAIL # SUFFIX > /var/mail/zgabor > $ echo ${MAIL%/*} # matches only "/zgabor" > /var/mail > $ echo ${MAIL%%/*} # matches "/var/mail/zgabor" > > $ > > or another one: # PREFIX > $ echo ${MAIL#*/} > var/mail/zgabor # matches "/" > $ echo ${MAIL##*/} > zgabor # matches "/var/mail/" > $ > > Bye, Gabor hey - thanks! > PS: is it works in your sh? On my 2.1.5 from sh, I got only: > Syntax error: Bad substitution yes - my example above works w/2.2.1. why shouldn't it? :) > -- #!/bin/ksh Z='21N16I25C25E30, 40M30E33E25T15U!' ;IFS=' ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ '; set $Z;for i { [[ $i = ? ]]&&print $i&&break;[[ $i = ??? ]]&&j=$i&&i=${i%?}; typeset -i40 i=8#$i;print -n ${i#???};[[ "$j" = ??? ]]&&print -n "${j#??} "&& j=;typeset +i i;};IFS=' 0123456789 ';set $Z;X=;for i { [[ $i = , ]]&&i=2; [[ $i = ?? ]]||typeset -l i;X="$X $i";typeset +l i;};print "$X" i tried this thing with sh - but only got errors :( (i was a little scared it would do something evil!) i don't have ksh ... From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 14 13:23:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA02103 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 13:23:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rosie.scsn.net (scsn.net [206.25.246.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA02094 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 13:23:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cola77.scsn.net ([206.25.247.77]) by rosie.scsn.net (Post.Office MTA v3.0 release 0121 ID# 0-32322U5000L100S10000) with ESMTP id AAA125 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 16:16:38 -0400 Received: (from root@localhost) by cola77.scsn.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) id QAA11063; Wed, 14 May 1997 16:23:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19970514162302.54539@cola77.scsn.net> Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 16:23:02 -0400 From: "Donald J. Maddox" To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.1.7 and COMPAT_43 -Reply References: <199705141338.IAA00697@beowulf.utmb.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: <199705141338.IAA00697@beowulf.utmb.edu>; from M. L. Dodson on Wed, May 14, 1997 at 08:38:49AM -0500 Reply-To: dmaddox@scsn.net Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, May 14, 1997 at 08:38:49AM -0500, M. L. Dodson wrote: > > I'm afraid there's another point overlooked here. Options like INET and > > even device npx0 are part of a great(?) BSD heritage. I guess INET was > > in BSD kernel configs long before FreeBSD was born. > > > > This is the real reason, I would think. Remember that BSD was originally > written by the CSRG: Computer Science RESEARCH Group at Berkeley. Options, > which for most people are not really optional, ;-), may be optional in a > research environment. Besides, all the books I have ever read on BSD > system administration make a point of the "nonoptional" options. We > already get enough complaints that there are no books about BSD (even > though there are). Why invalidate the discussion of kernel configuration > in these books by leaving these "options" out? > > > On the other hand, it *is* confusing for a newbie to configure a FreeBSD > > kernel. I think it would be better to just be able to mark to config > > that some configurations are dangerous, so when config-ing a kernel > > missing something important it will give a warning such as: > > > > ***WARNING*** > > You are missing the 'INET' option. > > The configured kernel may not be bootable > > > > Even WinNT gives this sort of warning when you disable, say, a SCSI > > device driver (of fear that it is the controller for the boot disk). > > > > I think this will leave us with the freedom to hack, the standard BSD > > options in the kernel, and will scare off curious newbies from removing > > important options. > > I wouldn't mind this, although I don't see this as a big issue. > > > Now all that's left is to hack config ;-) > > If you feel the need. I can see that this is about to turn into one of those 'BSD-tradition vs. common sense' debates, and I have no desire to participate in that; common sense cannot win because the traditionalists never relent, and without consensus, the status quo remains just that. Meanwhile, WindowsNT's market share continues to climb, supplanting what *might* have been FreeBSD market share... Too bad for us that they aren't saddled with a 'traditional' steep learning curve... -- Donald J. Maddox (dmaddox@scsn.net) From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 14 14:20:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA05256 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 14:20:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (root@agora.rdrop.com [199.2.210.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA05251 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 14:20:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fireball.blast.net (root@fireball.blast.net [204.141.163.53]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA29882 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 14:20:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from flashpoint.blast.net (flashpoint.blast.net [204.141.163.62]) by fireball.blast.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA15879 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 17:17:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199705142117.RAA15879@fireball.blast.net> From: "Pat McPartland" To: "FBSD questions" Subject: Re: configure 3com 3c509 combo for 10baseT -Reply Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 17:12:52 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Yes I've seen it used a couple ways: Use link2 for 10baseT use link0 link1 > The default port to use is the BNC. To choose an alternate port, use the > following flag combinations with ifconfig(8) or in your /etc/hostname.ep? > file. > > -link0 Use the BNC port (default). > > link0 -link1 Use the AUI port. > > link0 link1 Use the UTP port. None work, though. Pat ---------- From: Robert Clark To: mcp@blast.net Subject: configure 3com 3c509 combo for 10baseT -Reply Date: Wednesday, May 14, 1997 3:31 PM I think I heard about a '-link' switch. Have you searched the list archive? [RC] Robert Clark (Robert.Clark@PII.COM) Corporate Network Operations Admin Praegitzer Industries Incorporated (Traceroute & Ping a specialty.) >>> "Pat McPartland" 05/14/97 11:05am >>> How do I configure my 3com 3c509 card to use 10baseT instead of bnc Pat Patrick McPartland mcp@blast.net From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 14 14:39:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA06151 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 14:39:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from train.tgci.com ([205.185.169.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA06142 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 14:39:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from emilyd ([206.250.85.68]) by train.tgci.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA09779 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 15:06:43 -0700 Message-Id: <199705142206.PAA09779@train.tgci.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Riley J. McIntire" To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 14:38:20 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Can't boot from 2nd drive Reply-to: chaos@tgci.com Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.42a) Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I've seen similar stuff here, but not quite the problem I'm having. Nothing in a (quick) search of the archives, either. I'm currently running 2.1.7-R on an IDE drive (1.2 GB Maxtor). Has a 50MB DOS partition, the rest fbsd. The second drive, which will (hopefully) soon replace the above, is a Seagate ST51080N 1GB scsi riding a 2940W. The scsi has a 50 MB DOS partition, and I did an ftp install of 2.2.1-R on the remainder. And I can't boot from it. Usually. Installed booteasy, comes up F1 dos, F2 FBSD, F5 Second Disk. If I press F5 it then shows F? and nothing works. If I disable (bios) the ide drive, it boots F1 F2, but again gives F? when pressed. With both drives enabled and pressing F2 for the IDE drive, if at the boot prompt I type in sd(0,a)/kernel which should be the scsi 2.2.1, it boots 2.1.7. (Don't know if it means anything, but the root of the second disk did not have a "kernal", just kernel.GENERIC, which I copied. ) I *can* boot 2.2.1 if I disable the IDE and use the boot floppy. I've played around in sysinstall's disk labeller to make the drive bootable, doesn't help. One more thing, the bootinst table for booteasy shows neither the DOS or fbsd partitions as bootable on the scsi disk. Any help or pointers would be greatly appreciated. tia, Riley From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 14 14:51:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA06872 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 14:51:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iceberg.anchorage.net. (root@iceberg.anchorage.net [207.14.72.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA06867 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 14:51:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aak.anchorage.net (ai-129 [207.14.72.129]) by iceberg.anchorage.net. (8.6.11/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA09297 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 12:48:20 -0800 Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 13:41:28 -0800 (AKDT) From: Steve Howe X-Sender: abc@aak.anchorage.net To: freebsd-questions Subject: (A)DFS/DCE Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk has anyone considered porting open DFS/DCE systems to PC UNIXs? (distributed filesystems / computing) ... ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sleep: a sign a caffeine deprivation ... http://www.anchorage.net/~un_x ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 14 14:51:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA06902 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 14:51:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from outland.cyberwar.com (root@outland.cyberwar.com [206.88.128.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA06889 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 14:51:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zippy.cyberwar.com (zippy.cyberwar.com [206.88.128.80]) by outland.cyberwar.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA11718 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 17:51:22 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970514174942.0069aa4c@pop.cyberwar.com> X-Sender: wjgrun@pop.cyberwar.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 17:49:42 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Bill Grunfelder Subject: installing X libraries, etc.... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk What's the easiest way to install X libraries to a system already running FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE? I thought I could use sysinstall, configure, distributions, then just select X-Developer -- but it adds developer, user, etc...which will overwrite /etc, et all files...something I don't want. Can I just add X? Thanks, Bill From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 14 14:54:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA07082 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 14:54:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iceberg.anchorage.net. (root@iceberg.anchorage.net [207.14.72.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA07077 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 14:54:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aak.anchorage.net (ai-129 [207.14.72.129]) by iceberg.anchorage.net. (8.6.11/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA09328; Wed, 14 May 1997 12:51:24 -0800 Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 13:44:33 -0800 (AKDT) From: Steve Howe X-Sender: abc@aak.anchorage.net To: System administrator cc: Joachim Kuebart , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: lost blocks on HDD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 14 May 1997, System administrator wrote: > I lost quite a lot of files, but amount of used space didn't change. > Is there any way to restore or delete these lost files? > > Thanks, Anton i've asked this before - but didn't get too far. if you find out, let me know too! i'd like to have a "sector editor" w/S&R capability! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sleep: a sign a caffeine deprivation ... http://www.anchorage.net/~un_x ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 14 15:24:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA09585 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 15:24:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (root@agora.rdrop.com [199.2.210.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA09580 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 15:24:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ds1.gl.umbc.edu (ds1.gl.umbc.edu [130.85.3.11]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA06317 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 15:24:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from snedley (ppp-071.dialup.umbc.edu [130.85.97.71]) by ds1.gl.umbc.edu (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id SAA01469; Wed, 14 May 1997 18:22:15 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <337A38E9.2984@gl.umbc.edu> Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 18:12:57 -0400 From: Snedley X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b2 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org, chris@cdrom.com Subject: emacs X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have installed FreeBSD 2.1.7 and am very happy with it exclufding hte fact that when I invoke emacs I get the message ldconfig failed cant find file libgcc.a.261.0 or something very close to this. I get a similar message with Xemacs. I can use nedit and pico but would rather use emacs or Xemacs. I talked with Chris @ Walnut Creek and he had me load the binary compatability files which I did to no avail. I then reinstalled the OS this time including in the original instalation the compatability files and I still get the same mesage. Everything else works great.  I am using XFrr86 3.2A since I have a diamond Stealth 3D 3000 and it is directly supported by the S3V server. I can do what I wanted, that is program my projects, but I can't do so with an editor I am familiar with and like. Pico is the lowest common denominator and nedit is ok bnut it is not Xemacs or emacs. Thanks in advance From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 14 15:32:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA10067 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 15:32:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (root@agora.rdrop.com [199.2.210.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA10061 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 15:32:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kremvax.demos.su (kremvax.demos.su [194.87.0.20]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA07974 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 15:32:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by kremvax.demos.su (8.6.13/D) from root@localhost for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org id CAA29828; Thu, 15 May 1997 02:28:57 +0400 Received: from ozz by techsz.msk.ru with ESMTP id CAA00189; (8.6.12/vak/1.9) Thu, 15 May 1997 02:23:32 +0400 Message-Id: <199705142223.CAA00189@techsz.msk.ru> Reply-To: From: "Ozz" To: "FreeBSD Questions" Subject: 2 code pages Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 02:23:23 +0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello! Problem: I have a AIX & FreeBSD 3.0-SNAP. In FreeBSD I use KOI-8R, but in AIX -CP866. How I may correctly usage TELNET & other applications? How may I run any X-applications correctly from AIX ( in FBSD - KOIR, in AIX-CP866 )??? Rgds, Ozz, osa@techsz.msk.ru Close you m$-WINDOWS - Open the DOOR to Open Systems From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 14 15:39:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA10384 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 15:39:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.PII.COM (pii.com [192.77.209.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA10377 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 15:39:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from PII.COM by PII.COM (4.1/SMI-4.4) id AA01015; Wed, 14 May 97 15:41:44 PDT Received: from PII-Message_Server by pii.com with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 14 May 1997 15:42:33 -0700 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 15:36:30 -0700 From: Robert Clark To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, chaos@mail.tgci.com, chaos@tgci.com Subject: I dealt with a similar situation for awhile. Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I dealt with a similar situation for awhile. In my case the IDE disk was only 540MB. I just got used to turning the IDE on and off in CMOS. Even with the drive off in CMOS, it was visable to FBSD. I used OSBS, and think I could have made it work. I never got around to re-building a kernel. I gave the IDE drive to my brother, end of problem. I would've liked to get booting FBSD from the SCSI going, so that I could use the DOS booting program. WHY? So that the system could autoswitch back and forth. [RC] Robert Clark (Robert.Clark@PII.COM) Corporate Network Operations Admin Praegitzer Industries Incorporated >>> "Riley J. McIntire" 05/14/97 07:38am >>> I've seen similar stuff here, but not quite the problem I'm having. Nothing in a (quick) search of the archives, either. I'm currently running 2.1.7-R on an IDE drive (1.2 GB Maxtor). Has a 50MB DOS partition, the rest fbsd. The second drive, which will (hopefully) soon replace the above, is a Seagate ST51080N 1GB scsi riding a 2940W. The scsi has a 50 MB DOS partition, and I did an ftp install of 2.2.1-R on the remainder. And I can't boot from it. Usually. Installed booteasy, comes up F1 dos, F2 FBSD, F5 Second Disk. If I press F5 it then shows F? and nothing works. If I disable (bios) the ide drive, it boots F1 F2, but again gives F? when pressed. With both drives enabled and pressing F2 for the IDE drive, if at the boot prompt I type in sd(0,a)/kernel which should be the scsi 2.2.1, it boots 2.1.7. (Don't know if it means anything, but the root of the second disk did not have a "kernal", just kernel.GENERIC, which I copied. ) I *can* boot 2.2.1 if I disable the IDE and use the boot floppy. I've played around in sysinstall's disk labeller to make the drive bootable, doesn't help. One more thing, the bootinst table for booteasy shows neither the DOS or fbsd partitions as bootable on the scsi disk. Any help or pointers would be greatly appreciated. tia, Riley From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 14 15:44:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA10725 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 15:44:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mars.genwell.com ([157.151.227.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA10712 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 15:44:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mars.genwell.com (localhost.genwell.com [127.0.0.1]) by mars.genwell.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id IAA02142 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 08:47:13 -0700 Message-ID: <3379DE81.41C67EA6@genwell.com> Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 08:47:13 -0700 From: Brian Howell Organization: Genwell X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: How do I install the 2.2-stable upgrade kit X-URL: http://www.freebsd.org/support.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk for the 2.2.1 release? Much obliged, Brian Howell From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 14 15:44:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA10753 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 15:44:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bellind.com ([206.101.34.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA10748; Wed, 14 May 1997 15:44:39 -0700 (PDT) From: RGireyev@bellind.com Received: by firewall.bellind.com id <17027-3>; Wed, 14 May 1997 15:48:10 -0700 Message-Id: <97May14.154810pdt.17027-3@firewall.bellind.com> To: Cc: Subject: SUX-SEX stories Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 15:49:03 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.837.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello to all the good people of FreeBSD community. Apologies up front for cross posting, I felt the nature of the problem may warrant such a drastic action. There appears to be a VERY frequently asked question, an answer for which does not appear to be in the FAQ (or anywhere else I could find). The question is: How does one install FreeBSD on a second hard disk? Sometimes that second hard disk is a slave drive, sometimes a master, sometimes it's a zip drive and sometimes ..... etc etc. You get the picture I'm sure. Could someone who HAS DONE IT BEFORE or someone who KNOWS THE EXACT STEPS send them to me. When you type the steps please keep in mind that someone as dense as me will be reading them, so the clearer they are (many words) the better. I guess I'll try to make an article out of it or something. Jordan do you think this is a good candidate for an article? Optimally someone who knows how to do it would write the article, but if this lil' child-project is unwanted I'll try and do it. But more importantly we can add it to the FAQ. Thanks a lot Rudy (wishing he had another HD to experiment with) -------------------------------------------------- Beavis and Butt-head Software Co Inc | Fone 1-800-555-CHICKs "Just press any key, dude!!!!" | Phaks 1-800-555-BUTT -------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 14 15:49:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA11065 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 15:49:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rosie.scsn.net (scsn.net [206.25.246.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11060 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 15:49:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cola77.scsn.net ([206.25.247.77]) by rosie.scsn.net (Post.Office MTA v3.0 release 0121 ID# 0-32322U5000L100S10000) with ESMTP id AAA166; Wed, 14 May 1997 18:42:26 -0400 Received: (from root@localhost) by cola77.scsn.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) id SAA11451; Wed, 14 May 1997 18:48:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19970514184848.65008@cola77.scsn.net> Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 18:48:48 -0400 From: "Donald J. Maddox" To: Snedley Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, chris@cdrom.com Subject: Re: emacs References: <337A38E9.2984@gl.umbc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: <337A38E9.2984@gl.umbc.edu>; from Snedley on Wed, May 14, 1997 at 06:12:57PM -0400 Reply-To: dmaddox@scsn.net X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by cola77.scsn.net id SAA11451 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id PAA11061 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, May 14, 1997 at 06:12:57PM -0400, Snedley wrote: > I have installed FreeBSD 2.1.7 and am very happy with it exclufding > hte fact that when I invoke emacs I get the message ldconfig failed cant > find file libgcc.a.261.0 or something very close to this. I get a > similar message with Xemacs. I can use nedit and pico but would rather > use emacs or Xemacs. I talked with Chris @ Walnut Creek and he had me > load the binary compatability files which I did to no avail. I then > reinstalled the OS this time including in the original instalation the > compatability files and I still get the same mesage. Everything else > works great.  I am using XFrr86 3.2A since I have a diamond Stealth 3D > 3000 and it is directly supported by the S3V server. I can do what > I wanted, that is program my projects, but I can't do so with an editor > I am familiar with and like. Pico is the lowest common denominator and > nedit is ok bnut it is not Xemacs or emacs. > > Thanks in advance It sounds like you probably just need to do the following: # ldconfig -m /usr/lib/compat Without this, the newly-added libs in /usr/lib/compat are not visible to the system... -- Donald J. Maddox (dmaddox@scsn.net) From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 14 15:57:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA11453 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 15:57:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mixcom.mixcom.com (mixcom.mixcom.com [198.137.186.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA11447 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 15:57:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mixcom.mixcom.com (8.6.12/2.2) id RAA19592; Wed, 14 May 1997 17:57:38 -0500 Received: from p75.mixcom.com(198.137.186.25) by mixcom.mixcom.com via smap (V1.3) id sma019579; Wed May 14 17:57:28 1997 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970514175846.00727f64@mixcom.com> X-Sender: sysop@mixcom.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 17:58:47 -0500 To: "David Langford" From: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Subject: Re: undoing an ip alias Cc: joki@kuebart.stuttgart.netsurf.de (Joachim Kuebart), fbsdlist@federation.addy.com, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 10:35 AM 5/13/97 -1000, David Langford wrote: > >Wrong, this will blow away your primary interface. > >If you have an alias you need to delete using the EXACT same netmask >that you created the alias with > >SO if you used: > >ifconfig ed0 123.456.789.1 netmask 255.255.255.255 alias > >you need to do > >ifconfig ed0 123.456.789.1 netmask 255.255.255.255 delete ifconfig ed0 123.456.789.1 -alias Will also work, does not need the mask, and does not zap the primary. ------------------------------------------- Jeff Mountin - System/Network Administrator jeff@mixcom.net MIX Communications Serving the Internet since 1990 From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 14 16:07:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA11881 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 16:07:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from odin.visigenic.com (odin.visigenic.com [204.179.98.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA11872 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 16:07:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from VSI48 (vsi48.visigenic.com [206.64.15.185]) by odin.visigenic.com (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA8169 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 16:06:48 -0700 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970514160649.00a529d0@visigenic.com> X-Sender: toneil@visigenic.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 16:06:50 -0700 To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Tim Oneil" Subject: 2.2.1 release w/ne2000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Thanks again to everyone that answered my questions. I know other newbies probably hate me, but I have to say setting up 2.2.1 has been a snap (No pun intended). The whole upgrade process and installation of a suitable network card literally fell together. God bless the news list. -Tim From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 14 16:29:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA13394 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 16:29:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mother.cdrom.com (mother.cdrom.com [204.216.28.172]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA13389 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 16:29:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (support@localhost) by mother.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA07949 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 16:27:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: mother.cdrom.com: support owned process doing -bs Delivery-Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 20:10:20 -0700 X-Received: from pooh.cdrom.com (pooh.cdrom.com [204.216.28.222]) by mother.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA10865 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 20:10:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: from cinna.ultra.net (cinna.ultra.net [199.232.56.8]) by pooh.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA21207 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 20:10:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: from 146.115.41.65 (d21.dial-1.ltn.ma.ultra.net [146.115.41.21]) by cinna.ultra.net (8.8.5/ult1.04) with SMTP id XAA26414 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 23:11:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <33779DD0.68FA@ultranet.com> Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 23:13:17 +0000 From: David Reply-To: slohand@ultranet.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: support@cdrom.com Subject: FreeBSD CR-Rom Distribution Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ReSent-Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 16:27:31 -0700 (PDT) ReSent-From: "Christopher G. Mann" ReSent-To: questions@freebsd.org ReSent-Message-ID: Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk hi there, I bought the February 1997 FreeBSD 2.1.7 CR-Rom and am having trouble with it... I'm using the DOS partion installation method as my CD-Rom is not supported. Here is a list of my problems... 1) running under windows95 I used the setup program on the CD and it will not copy over the XFree86 3.2 distribution, and displays this error "X32BIN.TGZ: permission denied." 2)running under unix, it says "unable to get packages /INDEX from the selected media" which has been set to DOS... help... please... thanks in advance Dave Goodman 215 Middle Rd. Boxboro, MA 01719 (508) 263.1717 slohand@ultranet.com From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 14 16:33:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA13704 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 16:33:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iceberg.anchorage.net. (root@iceberg.anchorage.net [207.14.72.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA13699 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 16:33:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aak.anchorage.net (ai-129 [207.14.72.129]) by iceberg.anchorage.net. (8.6.11/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA09731; Wed, 14 May 1997 14:30:23 -0800 Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 15:23:31 -0800 (AKDT) From: Steve Howe X-Sender: abc@aak.anchorage.net To: Bill Grunfelder cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: installing X libraries, etc.... In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19970514174942.0069aa4c@pop.cyberwar.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 14 May 1997, Bill Grunfelder wrote: > What's the easiest way to install X libraries to a system already running > FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE? I thought I could use sysinstall, configure, > distributions, then just select X-Developer -- but it adds developer, user, > etc...which will overwrite /etc, et all files...something I don't want. > Can I just add X? > > Thanks, > > Bill use sysinstall, Custom. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sleep: a sign a caffeine deprivation ... http://www.anchorage.net/~un_x ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 14 16:45:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA14480 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 16:45:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA14473 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 16:45:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id QAA18054; Wed, 14 May 1997 16:45:36 -0700 (PDT) To: RGireyev@bellind.com cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SUX-SEX stories In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 14 May 1997 15:49:03 PDT." <97May14.154810pdt.17027-3@firewall.bellind.com> Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 16:45:36 -0700 Message-ID: <18051.863653536@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Hello to all the good people of FreeBSD community. > Apologies up front for cross posting, I felt the > nature of the problem may warrant such a drastic Actually, this has been discussed to death and probably really only needed to go to -questions. It's not as drastic as you make it out. ;-) First, search the mailing list archives at www.freebsd.org - this has, as I've said, been discussed before. Second, if you're running 2.2.1 or later, /stand/sysinstall should add a second disk for you just fine. Yes, I've even tested it. :) Jordan From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 14 16:49:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA14665 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 16:49:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mother.cdrom.com (mother.cdrom.com [204.216.28.172]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA14660 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 16:48:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (support@localhost) by mother.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA08192 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 16:47:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: mother.cdrom.com: support owned process doing -bs Delivery-Date: Fri, 09 May 1997 14:27:13 -0700 X-Received: from pooh.cdrom.com (pooh.cdrom.com [204.216.28.222]) by mother.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA12079 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 14:27:12 -0700 (PDT) From: duchenok@zoom1.telepath.com X-Received: from telepath.com (root@zoom1.telepath.com [205.228.200.20]) by pooh.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA27757 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 14:27:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: from zoom4156.telepath.com (zoom4156.telepath.com [205.228.194.156]) by telepath.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA10146 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 16:30:46 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199705092130.QAA10146@telepath.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is To: support@cdrom.com Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 16:29:39 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.40) ReSent-Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 16:47:08 -0700 (PDT) ReSent-From: "Christopher G. Mann" ReSent-To: questions@freebsd.org ReSent-Subject: Resent mail.... ReSent-Message-ID: Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am trying to install FreeBSD from a CD that I ordered from you. I am using a Pentium-100 w/ 32Mb RAM, IDE hard drive, and a NEC ATAPI CDROM. I am also running MS-DOS 6.2. The problem is every time I try to in stallfrom the CDROM (via the bootdisk) I run into this error in the novice setup. It reads: Couldn't extract the following distributions. This may be because they were not available on the installation media you've chosen: bin doc manpages profiles dict info I've also tried installation by copying the packages onto the dos partition. After finishing setup of the slice/partitions ans seting up emergency console, the harddrive light to the hard drive that my FreeBSD slice is suppose to be on just stays lit. The hard drive that the FreeBSD packages are on is never used. Is this a problem with hardware? Or is this something else? Kuan Chen From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 14 17:14:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA15847 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 17:14:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (root@agora.rdrop.com [199.2.210.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA15838 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 17:14:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from panix.com (panix.com [198.7.0.2]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA15994 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 17:14:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jbarrm@localhost) by panix.com (8.8.5/8.7/PanixU1.3) with SMTP id UAA28792; Wed, 14 May 1997 20:12:38 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 20:12:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Barry Masterson To: lars.falch@dbergstrom.dk cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2.2.1-RELEASE problem? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 14 May 1997 lars.falch@dbergstrom.dk wrote: > > The entire installation runs without any problems, and the > system boots fine after the installation, but when I try to > logon as root the following error msg occurs: > > ld.so failed: Can't find shared library "libdes.so.3.0" > I had similar problems with "ld.so failed" error messages after a 2.1.7 -> 2.2.1 upgrade, but not with libdes.so.n.n. For me it was the X libraries, and libraries related to the functioning of ssh. The fix was to rebuild ld: cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/ld make all make install Barry Masterson jbarrm@panix.com >--->--->--->--->---> FreeBSD 2.2.1-R <---<---<---<---<---< From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 14 17:21:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA16355 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 17:21:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.northlink.com (root@prescott.northlink.com [206.85.32.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA16348 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 17:21:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from northlink.northlink.com (pm1-05.northlink.com [206.85.32.70]) by smtp.northlink.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA07800 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 17:21:34 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199705150021.RAA07800@smtp.northlink.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Wilton Hughes" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 17:21:51 -0700 Subject: can't create boot floppy--disk full Reply-to: unixsa@northlink.com Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk help When I follow the directions in the Handbook to create a boot floppy I find that I am asked to copy more data to the floppy than the floppy will hold. What do I do? end Wilton Hughes 520-776-8272 3682 Estate Drive Prescott, Arizona 86303-7523 unixsa@northlink.com From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 14 17:35:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA17240 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 17:35:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sun630mp.infomania.com (root@sun630mp.infomania.com [199.182.37.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA17235 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 17:35:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lance (www.staytuned.com [199.182.37.174]) by sun630mp.infomania.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA21917 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 17:35:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <337A5C34.2D1@calweb.com> Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 17:43:32 -0700 From: Lance Walley Reply-To: lwalley@calweb.com Organization: StayTuned X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ODBC from FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I'm running MS Access and Perl on an NT machine, but I'm thinking about moving the Perl portion to a UNIX (FreeBSD) system. Does anyone know about this topic? My Access database is defined as a system DSN in NT, which makes it easy to access in Perl. I hope there's a nice way to continue this, even from another (UNIX) machine. Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 14 17:41:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA17725 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 17:41:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jocki.domestic.de (kuebart.stuttgart.netsurf.de [194.233.216.182]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA17720 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 17:41:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from joki@localhost) by jocki.domestic.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA00897; Thu, 15 May 1997 02:41:43 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.0 [p0] on FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19970513135409.00914610@bl-mail1.corpeast.baynetworks.com> Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 22:20:54 +0200 (MET DST) From: Joachim Kuebart To: (Tom Kiblin) Subject: RE: Root logins... Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi! This is _not_ recommended. Your machine _might_ some time get a distant internet access and this would make everything unsecure. The recommended way is: su exit exit In order to do "su" put your group into /etc/group behind wheel:*:0:root,yourgroup Be sure to not put any blanks before or after the comma ("man group"). If you still want root logins on tcp/ip terminals, make ttyp? secure in /etc/ttys. Such that: ttyp0 none network on secure This will allow root logins from anywhere... c u Jo On 13-May-97 at 17:54:09 Tom Kiblin wrote: >How does one enable Root logins from locations other than the console? I >just want to be able to telnet from any machine in our network and login as >root. > >I've changed the login.access in /etc, but it still doesn't work. > >Thanks, >Tom > > >_________________________________________ >Thomas Kiblin Tel:(508) 916-6017 >Corporate Systems Engineer Fax:(508) 916-3030 >Bay Networks USA Inc. Page:1-888-605-3681 >8 Federal St, Billerica, MA 01821 > mailto:tkiblin@baynetworks.com > http://www.baynetworks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------- For a world of pedigree OSs FreeBSD - top breeders recommend it Joachim Kuebart Tel: +49 711 653706 Germany From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 14 18:00:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA18578 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 18:00:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from CU-SeeMe.educ.utas.edu.au (cu-seeme.educ.utas.edu.au [144.6.16.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA18550 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 17:59:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (iaint@localhost) by CU-SeeMe.educ.utas.edu.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA12713 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 11:00:13 +1000 (EST) Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 11:00:13 +1000 (EST) From: Iain Templeton To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Root logins... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 13 May 1997, Joachim Kuebart wrote: > In order to do "su" put your group into /etc/group behind > wheel:*:0:root,yourgroup > I always thought that is was the username that you put there, since you are making the user a member of the group wheel, and allowing the user access. (This is what su(1) man page seems to say anyway) I suppose if you have the user and group names the same it might get a bit confusing. Iain. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 14 18:14:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA19459 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 18:14:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from m3.boston.juno.com (m3.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.198]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA19454 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 18:14:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nightwood@juno.com) by m3.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id VCM00465; Wed, 14 May 1997 21:13:34 EDT To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Win95 Message-ID: <19970514.210904.7791.0.nightwood@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.23 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 3-8 From: nightwood@juno.com (Daniel B Miller) Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 21:13:34 EDT Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk If I install FreeBSD on a computer with Windows 95, will it interfere with Windows 95 operation? Also will FreeBSD read the 32-bit FAT of Win95 B? Is there any code in either FreeBSD ,Win95, or made by an independant company to allow different OS's to be used with each boot? Thanks for your time. Daniel Miller nightwood@juno.com SMILE :-) From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 14 18:23:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA19938 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 18:23:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atlantis.nconnect.net (root@atlantis.nconnect.net [207.227.50.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA19933 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 18:23:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from arabian.astrolab.org (dial25.nconnect.net [207.227.50.25]) by atlantis.nconnect.net (8.8.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA20769 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 20:19:14 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <337A6579.6E55A7CB@nconnect.net> Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 20:23:05 -0500 From: Randall D DuCharme X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b3C (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Raima Velocis database server X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greetings, Has anyone successfully tried using the BSDI version of this server on FreeBSD. I'm contemplating moving my BSDI web server over to FreeBSD but can't get the DB server to stay running. R DuCharme From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 14 18:59:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA21508 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 18:59:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iceberg.anchorage.net. (root@iceberg.anchorage.net [207.14.72.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA21500 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 18:59:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aak.anchorage.net (ai-133 [207.14.72.133]) by iceberg.anchorage.net. (8.6.11/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA10555; Wed, 14 May 1997 16:56:07 -0800 Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 17:49:14 -0800 (AKDT) From: Steve Howe X-Sender: abc@aak.anchorage.net To: David cc: support@cdrom.com, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD CR-Rom Distribution In-Reply-To: <33779DD0.68FA@ultranet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 12 May 1997, David wrote: yeah, yeah, yeah. sysinstall isn't the greatest. it's just a silly *.tgz. just tar -xzvf it (in /usr) ... then read the docs. they're pretty simple (like 5 steps). (sorry if i don't sound right - i'm groggy ... :) > hi there, > > I bought the February 1997 FreeBSD 2.1.7 CR-Rom and am having trouble > with it... > > I'm using the DOS partion installation method as my CD-Rom is not > supported. Here is a list of my problems... > > 1) running under windows95 I used the setup program on the CD and it > will not copy over the XFree86 3.2 distribution, and displays this error > "X32BIN.TGZ: permission denied." > > 2)running under unix, it says "unable to get packages /INDEX from the > selected media" which has been set to DOS... > > help... please... > > thanks in advance > > Dave Goodman > 215 Middle Rd. > Boxboro, MA 01719 > (508) 263.1717 > slohand@ultranet.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sleep: a sign a caffeine deprivation ... http://www.anchorage.net/~un_x ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 14 19:05:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA21836 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 19:05:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iceberg.anchorage.net. (root@iceberg.anchorage.net [207.14.72.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA21827 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 19:05:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aak.anchorage.net (ai-133 [207.14.72.133]) by iceberg.anchorage.net. (8.6.11/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA10612; Wed, 14 May 1997 17:01:55 -0800 Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 17:55:02 -0800 (AKDT) From: Steve Howe X-Sender: abc@aak.anchorage.net Reply-To: Steve Howe To: duchenok@zoom1.telepath.com cc: support@cdrom.com, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: <199705092130.QAA10146@telepath.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk i took a bunch of time to carefully record the basic steps necessary to install a basic system, basically. they are at my FTP site in a doc called BSDez. if you follow them, you should have no troubles. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sleep: a sign a caffeine deprivation ... http://www.anchorage.net/~un_x ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 14 19:28:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA23011 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 19:28:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from train.tgci.com ([205.185.169.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA23001 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 19:28:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from emilyd ([206.250.85.68]) by train.tgci.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id TAA11061; Wed, 14 May 1997 19:56:04 -0700 Message-Id: <199705150256.TAA11061@train.tgci.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Riley J. McIntire" To: Robert Clark Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 19:27:37 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Can't boot from 2nd drive Reply-to: chaos@tgci.com CC: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.42a) Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk What I really need to know is how to get this second drive to boot. I mean it doesn't boot by itself and I don't want to do a complete reinstall. The scsi drive *only* boots from the floppy. > Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 15:36:30 -0700 > From: Robert Clark > To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, chaos@mail.tgci.com, chaos@tgci.com > Subject: I dealt with a similar situation for awhile. > I dealt with a similar situation for awhile. > > In my case the IDE disk was only 540MB. I just got used > to turning the IDE on and off in CMOS. Even with the > drive off in CMOS, it was visable to FBSD. > I disable the IDE bus--fbsd doesn't see the IDE. The scsi still won't boot. > I used OSBS, and think I could have made it work. I > never got around to re-building a kernel. I gave the > IDE drive to my brother, end of problem. > I tried osbs too... > > > Robert Clark (Robert.Clark@PII.COM) > Corporate Network Operations Admin > Praegitzer Industries Incorporated > Riley > >>> "Riley J. McIntire" 05/14/97 > 07:38am >>> > I've seen similar stuff here, but not quite the problem > I'm having. > Nothing in a (quick) search of the archives, either. > > I'm currently running 2.1.7-R on an IDE drive (1.2 GB > Maxtor). Has a > 50MB DOS partition, the rest fbsd. > > The second drive, which will (hopefully) soon replace > the above, is a > Seagate ST51080N 1GB scsi riding a 2940W. > > The scsi has a 50 MB DOS partition, and I did an ftp > install of > 2.2.1-R on the remainder. And I can't boot from it. > Usually. > Installed booteasy, comes up F1 dos, F2 FBSD, F5 Second > Disk. If I > press F5 it then shows F? and nothing works. > > If I disable (bios) the ide drive, it boots F1 F2, but > again gives F? > when pressed. > > With both drives enabled and pressing F2 for the IDE > drive, if at the > boot prompt I type in sd(0,a)/kernel which should be > the scsi 2.2.1, > it boots 2.1.7. > > (Don't know if it means anything, but the root of the > second disk did > not have a "kernal", just kernel.GENERIC, which I > copied. ) > > I *can* boot 2.2.1 if I disable the IDE and use the > boot floppy. > I've played around in sysinstall's disk labeller to > make the drive > bootable, doesn't help. > > One more thing, the bootinst table for booteasy shows > neither the > DOS or fbsd partitions as bootable on the scsi disk. > > Any help or pointers would be greatly appreciated. > > tia, > > Riley > > > From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 14 19:37:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA23504 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 19:37:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cedb.dpcsys.com (cedb.DPCSYS.com [209.25.4.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA23499 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 19:37:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dan@localhost) by cedb.dpcsys.com (8.8.5/8.8.2) with SMTP id CAA02095; Thu, 15 May 1997 02:29:30 GMT Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 19:29:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Busarow To: Pat McPartland cc: FBSD questions Subject: Re: configure 3com 3c509 combo for 10baseT In-Reply-To: <199705141809.OAA05838@fireball.blast.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 14 May 1997, Pat McPartland wrote: > How do I configure my 3com 3c509 card to use 10baseT instead of bnc You can use the DOS config to set it to use the 10BT connector or, in your ifconfig statement add link2 at the end. ifconfig ep0 inet 123.123.123 netmask 0xffffff00 link2 Dan -- Dan Busarow 714 443 4172 DPC Systems / Beach.Net dan@dpcsys.com Dana Point, California 83 09 EF 59 E0 11 89 B4 8D 09 DB FD E1 DD 0C 82 From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 14 19:45:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA23774 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 19:45:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iceberg.anchorage.net. (root@iceberg.anchorage.net [207.14.72.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA23769 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 19:45:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aak.anchorage.net (ai-133 [207.14.72.133]) by iceberg.anchorage.net. (8.6.11/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA10936; Wed, 14 May 1997 17:41:11 -0800 Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 18:34:17 -0800 (AKDT) From: Steve Howe X-Sender: abc@aak.anchorage.net To: Daniel B Miller cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Win95 In-Reply-To: <19970514.210904.7791.0.nightwood@juno.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 14 May 1997, Daniel B Miller wrote: > If I install FreeBSD on a computer with Windows 95, will it interfere > with Windows 95 operation? no. > Also will FreeBSD read the 32-bit FAT of > Win95 B? no. > Is there any code in either FreeBSD ,Win95, or made by an ^^^^^^^ > independant company to allow different OS's to be used with each boot? yes. > Thanks for your time. yes. > Daniel Miller > nightwood@juno.com > SMILE :-) ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sleep: a sign a caffeine deprivation ... http://www.anchorage.net/~un_x ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 14 19:53:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA24062 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 19:53:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.gte.net (smtp.gte.net [207.115.153.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA24055 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 19:53:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pb486 (1Cust13.Max55.Los-Angeles.CA.MS.UU.NET [153.34.97.141]) by smtp.gte.net (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) with SMTP id VAA26949 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 21:52:35 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <337A7AF6.4E0C@gte.net> Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 19:54:46 -0700 From: Parker Brown X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: support@freebsd.org Subject: [Fwd: A Peculiar Problem Using FTP on 2.2.1] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------5A9951975BEE" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------5A9951975BEE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Apparently "questions-"support@entscape.com is not available because this came back to me undelivered. --------------5A9951975BEE Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-ID: <33751647.3828@gte.net> Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 17:43:51 -0700 From: Parker Brown X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions-support@freebsd.org Subject: A Peculiar Problem Using FTP on 2.2.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Have not encountered this problem with released 2.0.5, 2.1.0, 2.1.5, or 2.1.6 Trying to download Netscape Navigator from ftp.netscape.com (successsful before installing 2.2.0). I can open ftp.netscape.com and login as anonymous, and then use the ls and cd commands to access pub/navigator/3.01 and even ls to see that there is a unix directory. But when I cd to unix my session just locks up. No problem with my previous resease (2.1.6). I've searched handbook and faq with no help. also checked man to see if I overlooked a parameter. Using Windows 95 and NT versions of ftp allowed me to access that unix directory, just like FreeBSD 2.1.6 did. I've gotten some pretty sarcastic answers from you guys in the past, so I've really tried to solve it myself, but I'm stumped. PLEASE HELP. Thanks. --------------5A9951975BEE-- From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 14 20:05:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA24497 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 20:05:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cedb.dpcsys.com (cedb.DPCSYS.com [209.25.4.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA24492 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 20:05:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dan@localhost) by cedb.dpcsys.com (8.8.5/8.8.2) with SMTP id CAA02116; Thu, 15 May 1997 02:33:50 GMT Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 19:33:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Busarow To: Wilton Hughes cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: can't create boot floppy--disk full In-Reply-To: <199705150021.RAA07800@smtp.northlink.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 14 May 1997, Wilton Hughes wrote: > When I follow the directions in the Handbook to create a boot > floppy I find that I am asked to copy more data to the floppy than > the floppy will hold. What do I do? Re-read the instructions :) You do *not* copy the file to diskette, you use dd or rawrite.exe or another utility that turned up recently to write a disk image to the disk. Dan -- Dan Busarow 714 443 4172 DPC Systems / Beach.Net dan@dpcsys.com Dana Point, California 83 09 EF 59 E0 11 89 B4 8D 09 DB FD E1 DD 0C 82 From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 14 20:06:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA24541 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 20:06:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from train.tgci.com ([205.185.169.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA24535 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 20:06:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from emilyd ([206.250.85.68]) by train.tgci.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id UAA11186; Wed, 14 May 1997 20:33:15 -0700 Message-Id: <199705150333.UAA11186@train.tgci.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Riley J. McIntire" To: Steve Howe Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 20:04:48 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Can't boot from 2nd drive Reply-to: chaos@tgci.com CC: questions@freebsd.org Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.42a) Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 18:41:02 -0800 (AKDT) > From: Steve Howe > To: chaos@tgci.com > Subject: Re: Can't boot from 2nd drive > On Wed, 14 May 1997, Riley J. McIntire wrote: > > what does DOS95 know about FreeBSD? how can it activate it's partitions? > see my FTP site and read BSDez. it's short, step-by-step and concise. Your 'BSDez' doesn't seem to apply-I've installed, I've installed before. But I've never been able to boot directly from this second scsi disks. > > or else - use sysintall to re-install the MBR - but don't select TRUE > partition entries - even though you'll be warned for not doing so. Again, what do you mean by "TRUE" partition entries? A fbsd slice? Thanks, Riley > > if you have the files on your HD, you should be able to re-install many > times an hour until you get it right - it's really not too difficult - and > i've installed it on a zillion types of equipment. > > > I used the sysinstall program. I did try DOS95 fdisk to activate the > > partitions after the install but this didn't seem to do anything. > > > > I'm not quite clear what you mean by a "True" partition? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Riley > > > > > Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 15:20:27 -0800 (AKDT) > > > From: Steve Howe > > > To: chaos@tgci.com > > > Subject: Re: Can't boot from 2nd drive > > > > > > > > did you select a TRUE partition entry for you second drive? don't. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Sleep: a sign a caffeine deprivation ... http://www.anchorage.net/~un_x > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 14 20:19:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA24984 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 20:19:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from narcissus.ml.org (root@brosenga.Pitzer.edu [134.173.120.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA24979 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 20:19:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (ben@localhost) by narcissus.ml.org (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA05386; Wed, 14 May 1997 20:19:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 20:19:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Snob Art Genre To: dmaddox@scsn.net cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.1.7 and COMPAT_43 -Reply In-Reply-To: <19970514162302.54539@cola77.scsn.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Do you really attribute NT's success to its lack of confusing kernel options and the like? Come on . . . if NT really tended to DTRT where FreeBSD didn't you'd be using NT instead. On Wed, 14 May 1997, Donald J. Maddox wrote: > I can see that this is about to turn into one of those 'BSD-tradition vs. > common sense' debates, and I have no desire to participate in that; common > sense cannot win because the traditionalists never relent, and without > consensus, the status quo remains just that. > > Meanwhile, WindowsNT's market share continues to climb, supplanting what > *might* have been FreeBSD market share... Too bad for us that they aren't > saddled with a 'traditional' steep learning curve... > > -- > > > Donald J. Maddox > (dmaddox@scsn.net) > > Ben "You have your mind on computers, it seems." From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 14 20:41:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA25871 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 20:41:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lariat.lariat.org ([129.72.251.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA25866 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 20:41:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from solo.lariat.org ([129.72.251.10]) by lariat.lariat.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA08106 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 21:39:38 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970514164558.007071f0@lariat.org> X-Sender: brett@lariat.org X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 16:45:58 -0600 To: questions@freebsd.org From: Brett Glass Subject: What are these "upgrade" files? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Am interested in installing 2.2.1-RELEASE on a few machines this coming weekend. However, I understand that important improvements have been made since it was released, and was therefore looking at installing the 970422-RELENG snapshot, which several people have recommended as more stable (especially with Adaptec host adapters). Is this the best version to use? Will the floppy disk do a proper upgrade from 2.1.x via the Net? Also, on the FreeBSD FTP server, I see some files marked 22upgrade-YY.MM.DD.tgz. What are these? Is it necessary to install them to get the latest ports and packages? --Brett Glass From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 14 20:50:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA26345 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 20:50:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.gte.net (smtp.gte.net [207.115.153.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA26340 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 20:50:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pb486 (1Cust74.Max55.Los-Angeles.CA.MS.UU.NET [153.34.97.202]) by smtp.gte.net (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) with SMTP id WAA20181 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 22:49:37 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <337A8854.31A@gte.net> Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 20:51:48 -0700 From: Parker Brown X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: support@freebsd.org Subject: NEW PARAMETERS FOR REBUILDING THE KERNEL, plus ...[Fwd: Returned mail: User unknown] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------3734478F7C1F" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------3734478F7C1F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There seem to be a lot of new parameters to describe the computer hardware when reconfiguring the kernel. You guys provide a lot of documentation on the distribution CD's (Walnut Creek subscription in this case) but I have not been successful in finding anything that describes these new ones. Where can I find descriptions? Up to rel 2.1.6 everything was covered in Walnut Creek's "The Complete FreeBSD", but there seem to be new parameters in 2.2.1 Please. --------------3734478F7C1F Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <> Received: from sm3.gte.net ([207.115.153.24]) by sm2.gte.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release "2" ID# 0-32582L10S150000) with ESMTP id AAA15978 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 19:42:43 -0500 Received: from smtp.gte.net ([207.115.153.29]) by sm3.gte.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release "2" ID# 0-32582L10S150000) with ESMTP id AAA16152 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 19:42:43 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost) by smtp.gte.net (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) with internal id TAA14200; Sat, 10 May 1997 19:42:43 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 19:42:43 -0500 (CDT) From: Mail Delivery Subsystem Message-Id: <199705110042.TAA14200@smtp.gte.net> To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status; boundary="TAA14200.863311363/smtp.gte.net" Subject: Returned mail: User unknown Auto-Submitted: auto-generated (failure) This is a MIME-encapsulated message --TAA14200.863311363/smtp.gte.net The original message was received at Sat, 10 May 1997 19:42:10 -0500 (CDT) from 1Cust49.Max56.Los-Angeles.CA.MS.UU.NET [153.34.98.49] ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- ----- Transcript of session follows ----- ... while talking to hub.freebsd.org.: >>> RCPT To: <<< 550 ... User unknown 550 ... User unknown --TAA14200.863311363/smtp.gte.net Content-Type: message/delivery-status Reporting-MTA: dns; smtp.gte.net Received-From-MTA: DNS; 1Cust49.Max56.Los-Angeles.CA.MS.UU.NET Arrival-Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 19:42:10 -0500 (CDT) Final-Recipient: RFC822; questions-support@freebsd.org Action: failed Status: 5.1.1 Remote-MTA: DNS; hub.freebsd.org Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 550 ... User unknown Last-Attempt-Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 19:42:43 -0500 (CDT) --TAA14200.863311363/smtp.gte.net Content-Type: message/rfc822 Return-Path: Received: from pb486 (1Cust49.Max56.Los-Angeles.CA.MS.UU.NET [153.34.98.49]) by smtp.gte.net (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) with SMTP id TAA14192 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 19:42:10 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <33751647.3828@gte.net> Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 17:43:51 -0700 From: Parker Brown X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions-support@freebsd.org Subject: A Peculiar Problem Using FTP on 2.2.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Have not encountered this problem with released 2.0.5, 2.1.0, 2.1.5, or 2.1.6 Trying to download Netscape Navigator from ftp.netscape.com (successsful before installing 2.2.0). I can open ftp.netscape.com and login as anonymous, and then use the ls and cd commands to access pub/navigator/3.01 and even ls to see that there is a unix directory. But when I cd to unix my session just locks up. No problem with my previous resease (2.1.6). I've searched handbook and faq with no help. also checked man to see if I overlooked a parameter. Using Windows 95 and NT versions of ftp allowed me to access that unix directory, just like FreeBSD 2.1.6 did. I've gotten some pretty sarcastic answers from you guys in the past, so I've really tried to solve it myself, but I'm stumped. PLEASE HELP. Thanks. --TAA14200.863311363/smtp.gte.net-- --------------3734478F7C1F-- From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 14 21:16:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA27359 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 21:16:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from falcon.pacit.tas.gov.au (falcon.pacit.tas.gov.au [147.109.1.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA27348 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 21:16:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from carey.pacit.tas.gov.au (carey.pacit.tas.gov.AU [147.109.2.69]) by falcon.pacit.tas.gov.au (8.8.4/8.8.2) with SMTP id OAA02791; Thu, 15 May 1997 14:15:35 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970515141417.0070624c@falcon.pacit.tas.gov.au> X-Sender: cpn@falcon.pacit.tas.gov.au X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 14:14:17 +1000 To: Parker Brown , support@FreeBSD.ORG From: Carey Nairn Subject: Re: NEW PARAMETERS FOR REBUILDING THE KERNEL, plus ...[Fwd: Returned mail: User unknown] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have always used the /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/LINT file as a reference for kernel configuration. This pretty much documents all of the options, devices etc. cheers, Carey Nairn At 20:51 14/05/97 -0700, Parker Brown wrote: >There seem to be a lot of new parameters to describe the computer >hardware when reconfiguring the kernel. You guys provide a lot of >documentation on the distribution CD's (Walnut Creek subscription in >this case) but I have not been successful in finding anything that >describes these new ones. Where can I find descriptions? Up to rel >2.1.6 everything was covered in Walnut Creek's "The Complete FreeBSD", >but there seem to be new parameters in 2.2.1 > >Please. >Return-Path: <> >Received: from sm3.gte.net ([207.115.153.24]) by sm2.gte.net > (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release "2" ID# 0-32582L10S150000) > with ESMTP id AAA15978 for ; > Sat, 10 May 1997 19:42:43 -0500 >Received: from smtp.gte.net ([207.115.153.29]) by sm3.gte.net > (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release "2" ID# 0-32582L10S150000) > with ESMTP id AAA16152 for ; > Sat, 10 May 1997 19:42:43 -0500 >Received: from localhost (localhost) > by smtp.gte.net (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) with internal id TAA14200; > Sat, 10 May 1997 19:42:43 -0500 (CDT) >Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 19:42:43 -0500 (CDT) >From: Mail Delivery Subsystem >Message-Id: <199705110042.TAA14200@smtp.gte.net> >To: >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status; > boundary="TAA14200.863311363/smtp.gte.net" >Subject: Returned mail: User unknown >Auto-Submitted: auto-generated (failure) > >The original message was received at Sat, 10 May 1997 19:42:10 -0500 (CDT) >from 1Cust49.Max56.Los-Angeles.CA.MS.UU.NET [153.34.98.49] > > ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- > > > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- >... while talking to hub.freebsd.org.: >>>> RCPT To: ><<< 550 ... User unknown >550 ... User unknown >Reporting-MTA: dns; smtp.gte.net >Received-From-MTA: DNS; 1Cust49.Max56.Los-Angeles.CA.MS.UU.NET >Arrival-Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 19:42:10 -0500 (CDT) > >Final-Recipient: RFC822; questions-support@freebsd.org >Action: failed >Status: 5.1.1 >Remote-MTA: DNS; hub.freebsd.org >Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 550 ... User unknown >Last-Attempt-Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 19:42:43 -0500 (CDT) >Return-Path: >Received: from pb486 (1Cust49.Max56.Los-Angeles.CA.MS.UU.NET [153.34.98.49]) > by smtp.gte.net (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) with SMTP id TAA14192 > for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 19:42:10 -0500 (CDT) >Message-ID: <33751647.3828@gte.net> >Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 17:43:51 -0700 >From: Parker Brown >X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (WinNT; U) >MIME-Version: 1.0 >To: questions-support@freebsd.org >Subject: A Peculiar Problem Using FTP on 2.2.1 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Have not encountered this problem with released 2.0.5, 2.1.0, 2.1.5, or >2.1.6 > >Trying to download Netscape Navigator from ftp.netscape.com (successsful >before installing 2.2.0). I can open ftp.netscape.com and login as >anonymous, and then use the ls and cd commands to access >pub/navigator/3.01 and even ls to see that there is a unix directory. >But when I cd to unix my session just locks up. No problem with my >previous resease (2.1.6). I've searched handbook and faq with no help. >also checked man to see if I overlooked a parameter. Using Windows 95 >and NT versions of ftp allowed me to access that unix directory, just >like FreeBSD 2.1.6 did. > >I've gotten some pretty sarcastic answers from you guys in the past, so >I've really tried to solve it myself, but I'm stumped. PLEASE HELP. >Thanks. > From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 14 21:23:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA27758 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 21:23:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rosie.scsn.net (scsn.net [206.25.246.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA27753 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 21:23:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cola77.scsn.net ([206.25.247.77]) by rosie.scsn.net (Post.Office MTA v3.0 release 0121 ID# 0-32322U5000L100S10000) with ESMTP id AAA188; Thu, 15 May 1997 00:16:45 -0400 Received: (from root@localhost) by cola77.scsn.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA27575; Thu, 15 May 1997 00:22:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19970515002255.62491@cola77.scsn.net> Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 00:22:55 -0400 From: "Donald J. Maddox" To: Snob Art Genre Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.1.7 and COMPAT_43 -Reply References: <19970514162302.54539@cola77.scsn.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: ; from Snob Art Genre on Wed, May 14, 1997 at 08:19:36PM -0700 Reply-To: dmaddox@scsn.net Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, May 14, 1997 at 08:19:36PM -0700, Snob Art Genre wrote: > Do you really attribute NT's success to its lack of confusing kernel > options and the like? Come on . . . if NT really tended to DTRT where > FreeBSD didn't you'd be using NT instead. > > On Wed, 14 May 1997, Donald J. Maddox wrote: > > > I can see that this is about to turn into one of those 'BSD-tradition vs. > > common sense' debates, and I have no desire to participate in that; common > > sense cannot win because the traditionalists never relent, and without > > consensus, the status quo remains just that. > > > > Meanwhile, WindowsNT's market share continues to climb, supplanting what > > *might* have been FreeBSD market share... Too bad for us that they aren't > > saddled with a 'traditional' steep learning curve... No, that's not what I meant. I'm not qualified to do an in-depth anaylsis of NT's success; however, I _know_ that an appreciable number of people who might have chosen a UNIX-like OS end up giving up in frustration... Just _installing_ most UNIX-alikes is a daunting task for the average user, and once they _do_ manage to get to their first login: prompt, they find themselves in a foreign place where the signposts are not all that obvious. If they ask for help, they are likely to be greeted by RTFM and UTSL, and they often don't know what FM to R. Most of the 'traditionalists' would probably say that we are better off keeping the clueless out of the club, and maybe that's a valid point of view. But some of us would like to see more commercial support for FreeBSD, and the way to get that is obviously to increase the user base, even if it means inviting in the unwashed masses. In short, I think that anything that can be done to flatten the learning curve, to make the install easier, to make customizing the environment easier, especially when it comes at no real cost (like friendlier kernel config files, for example) is a Good Thing, and will help us, at least a little, to minimize the advantage that NT has with it's familiar Windows interface, etc. -- Donald J. Maddox (dmaddox@scsn.net) From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 14 22:41:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA00955 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 22:41:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from csd.cs.technion.ac.il (csd.cs.technion.ac.il [132.68.32.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA00950 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 22:41:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (nadav@localhost) by csd.cs.technion.ac.il (8.6.11/8.6.10) with SMTP id IAA06433; Thu, 15 May 1997 08:41:04 +0300 X-Authentication-Warning: csd.cs.technion.ac.il: nadav owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 08:41:04 +0300 (IDT) From: Nadav Eiron X-Sender: nadav@csd To: "Charles A. Peters" cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.1.5 August 1996 - Server Installation In-Reply-To: <199705150340.XAA20538@ais.ais-gwd.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk This posting belongs in -questions (CC changed). On Wed, 14 May 1997, Charles A. Peters wrote: > I will be setting up a web / ftp / mail server, and I am planning to > use FreeBSD 2.1.5. I am wondering how stable this version is and if > there are any special problems that I may encounter. 2.1.5 had some security holes. For a server you put on the Internet, 2.1.7 should be far more secure. On the other hand, 2.1.7 had some problems with the ahc (adaptec 2940) driver. If your server is heavily loaded (especially if it is a large news server), look for the updated 2.1.7 (or simply use CVSup to get the latest from the 2.1.x branch). Other than that both 2.1.5 and 2.1.7 are *very* stable. The only time my 2.1.5 server went down after I configured it was to upgrade it to 2.1.7 :-) > > I am new to FreeBSD, but I have successfull installed thesoftware, > and have been using the server as a learning tool. I have also been > subscribed to the various FreeBSD mailing list for several months as > an observer. > > I have about 10 years of Dos/Windows/Novell experience, and I am not > intimidated with FreeBSD. Does anyone have any suggestions about > good reference materials for administration. Nemeth's UNIX administration book (I don't have it here, so I can't give you the exact name and ISBN, but a quick search in your favorite book cyberstore will get you what you want). > > Any suggestions would be deeply appreciated. > > Thanks in advance. > > Charles > > > Charles A. Peters > > charlespeters@tecpro.com > http://www.tecpro.com/ > > 864-255-6600 Message Center > Nadav From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 14 22:48:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA01238 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 22:48:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kevin.sunshine.net ([204.191.205.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA01230 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 22:48:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (cagey@localhost) by kevin.sunshine.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA00739; Wed, 14 May 1997 22:43:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 22:43:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Kevin Eliuk Reply-To: Kevin Eliuk To: dmaddox@scsn.net cc: Snob Art Genre , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.1.7 and COMPAT_43 -Reply In-Reply-To: <19970515002255.62491@cola77.scsn.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I tried to stop myself but I have to say it (as a new user). As far as I can tell, If someone cannot open 3 terminals, One for the handbook, one for LINT, and one to cp GENERIC whatever and edit whatever, I think a refer all to LINT or Handbook or man *(*) is probably appropriate. I disagree that you have to change the OS for new users, you have to change new users for the OS. The only idea that seemed possible in reading this (plus the other) string was something like `vikernel' that could use an editor which would use a configuration database that would check the configuration for missing required `options' as well as typographical errors, a spell checker of sorts, as part of the write command. That's my $.7346 :-) _______________________________________ |\ /| | \ kevin_eliuk@sunshine.net / | My manhood shouldn't be | \ Kevin G. Eliuk / | measured by the length | /^\_________________________/^\ | of my run on sentences. | / \ | |/--===### Powered By FreeBSD 2.2.1 \| | www.freebsd.org | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 14 23:12:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA02107 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 23:12:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ces04.cessys.com ([207.91.147.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA02102 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 23:12:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ces04.cessys.com by ces04.cessys.com (NTMail 3.02.10) with ESMTP id va006131 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 01:14:54 -0500 Received: by ras02.cessys.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BC60CD.4C2B4E80@ras02.cessys.com>; Thu, 15 May 1997 01:14:12 -0500 Message-ID: <01BC60CD.4C2B4E80@ras02.cessys.com> From: "James F. Schmidt" To: "'dmaddox@scsn.net'" , Snob Art Genre Cc: "questions@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: RE: FreeBSD vs. NT Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 01:13:59 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Info: CES Systems Internet Services Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id XAA02103 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi All, I can't resist increasing the noise level a bit... I changed the subject line to one that is more appropriate. First, I will say that I am new to UNIX and installed FreeBSD a few weeks ago with no problems. We presently have a full NT network with a PDC, BDC, etc. blah blah blah.... In my NT list groups I learned about FreeBSD because there are so many things that you can do rather easily with FreeBSD that NT cannot. As an example, you can dust off your old 486DX-66 with 16MB RAM and turn it into: 1. An FTP Server 2. Telnet Server 3. SMTP Server 4. HTTP Server 5. Router 6. FireWall 7. Gateway 8. Quota Manager (... And this is vanilla stuff as far as FreeBSD is concerned!) To name a few valuable features that NT does not offer without a significant system, eg: Pentium 166 w/ 64MB RAM, 2 GB HDD... and tons of thrid party software and hardware... In my opinion (and I am a very strong NT user), the NT GUI platform has crippled the OS. It is a major resource hog. Do any of you run Office '97 under NT? MS Word hangs on to 16MB RAM alone (this is a code stub)... An ISP does not need a GUI (X or NT) to run HTTP, FTP, or Shell Accounts. That horsepower can be put to better use. Some of the simpliest tasks in NT become a major experience because they must interact with the GUI. As an example, compare the speed in establishing a network share using Explorer vs. the command prompt using NET USE... There is a lightening difference. Case in point. NT has its place but I have found that FreeBSD has also a very significant place in our Intranet! Jim -----Original Message----- From: Donald J. Maddox [SMTP:root@cola77.scsn.net] Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 1997 11:23 PM To: Snob Art Genre Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.1.7 and COMPAT_43 -Reply On Wed, May 14, 1997 at 08:19:36PM -0700, Snob Art Genre wrote: > Do you really attribute NT's success to its lack of confusing kernel > options and the like? Come on . . . if NT really tended to DTRT where > FreeBSD didn't you'd be using NT instead. > > On Wed, 14 May 1997, Donald J. Maddox wrote: > > > I can see that this is about to turn into one of those 'BSD-tradition vs. > > common sense' debates, and I have no desire to participate in that; common > > sense cannot win because the traditionalists never relent, and without > > consensus, the status quo remains just that. > > > > Meanwhile, WindowsNT's market share continues to climb, supplanting what > > *might* have been FreeBSD market share... Too bad for us that they aren't > > saddled with a 'traditional' steep learning curve... No, that's not what I meant. I'm not qualified to do an in-depth anaylsis of NT's success; however, I _know_ that an appreciable number of people who might have chosen a UNIX-like OS end up giving up in frustration... Just _installing_ most UNIX-alikes is a daunting task for the average user, and once they _do_ manage to get to their first login: prompt, they find themselves in a foreign place where the signposts are not all that obvious. If they ask for help, they are likely to be greeted by RTFM and UTSL, and they often don't know what FM to R. Most of the 'traditionalists' would probably say that we are better off keeping the clueless out of the club, and maybe that's a valid point of view. But some of us would like to see more commercial support for FreeBSD, and the way to get that is obviously to increase the user base, even if it means inviting in the unwashed masses. In short, I think that anything that can be done to flatten the learning curve, to make the install easier, to make customizing the environment easier, especially when it comes at no real cost (like friendlier kernel config files, for example) is a Good Thing, and will help us, at least a little, to minimize the advantage that NT has with it's familiar Windows interface, etc. Donald J. Maddox (dmaddox@scsn.net) From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 15 00:19:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA04398 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 00:19:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pc-pvl.nanoteq.co.za (pc-pvl.nanoteq.co.za [163.195.219.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA04384 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 00:18:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pc-pvl.nanoteq.co.za (localhost.nanoteq.co.za [127.0.0.1]) by pc-pvl.nanoteq.co.za (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA08457; Thu, 15 May 1997 09:25:05 +0200 (SAT) Message-Id: <199705150725.JAA08457@pc-pvl.nanoteq.co.za> To: Iain Templeton cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Root logins... In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 15 May 1997 11:00:13 +1000." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 09:25:03 +0200 From: "P. van Leeuwen" Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > On Tue, 13 May 1997, Joachim Kuebart wrote: > > > In order to do "su" put your group into /etc/group behind > > wheel:*:0:root,yourgroup > > > I always thought that is was the username that you put there, since you > are making the user a member of the group wheel, and allowing the user > access. (This is what su(1) man page seems to say anyway) You're right. You do put the username in there. Mine looks like this: wheel:*:0:root,pvl > > I suppose if you have the user and group names the same it might get a bit > confusing. > > Iain. > -- Pierre-Andre van Leeuwen Electronic Engineer Powered By FreeBSD ******************************** * Nanoteq (Pty) Ltd. * * Specialists in data security * * E-mail : pvl@nanoteq.com * * Ph : +27 (0)12 665-1338 * * http://www.nanoteq.co.za * ******************************** From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 15 00:34:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA04956 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 00:34:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from paaltjens.si.hhs.nl (pp@paaltjens.si.hhs.nl [145.52.10.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA04951; Thu, 15 May 1997 00:34:49 -0700 (PDT) From: v942429@si.hhs.nl Received: from si.hhs.nl by paaltjens.si.hhs.nl id <21412-0@paaltjens.si.hhs.nl>; Thu, 15 May 1997 09:21:20 +0200 Received: by develing.si.hhs.nl (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA26039; Thu, 15 May 1997 09:24:34 +0200 Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 09:24:34 +0200 Message-Id: <199705150724.JAA26039@develing.si.hhs.nl> To: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Make world RELENG_2_2 Thursday May 15 -- problem! X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi Yesterday I did the make world thing on the RELENG_2_2 branch cvsupped 15 May. Now everything seems to be linked with libutil.so.2.1 instead of the new libutil.so.2.2 ! Thankfully, we use the secure shell.. because telnet isn't possible. (I just *wish* I hadn't disabled root login with it..... grumble!) login.conf login classes are very cool.. but I just wish it didn't mess up the system... 8( Trying to su: dot:/usr/lib> su (null): warning: /usr/lib/libutil.so.2.1: minor version 1 older than expected 2, using it anyway (null): Undefined symbol "_login_getpwclass" called from su:su at 0x312c dot:/usr/bin> ldd su su: (null): warning: /usr/lib/libutil.so.2.1: minor version 1 older than expected 2, using it anyway -lutil.2 => /usr/lib/libutil.so.2.1 (0x801c000) -lskey.2 => /usr/lib/libskey.so.2.0 (0x801e000) -lcrypt.2 => /usr/lib/libcrypt.so.2.0 (0x8024000) -lc.3 => /usr/lib/libc.so.3.0 (0x8027000) Trying to login with telnet: develing:~> telnet twiddle.com Trying 194.151.13.121... Connected to twiddle.com. Escape character is '^]'. (null): warning: /usr/lib/libutil.so.2.1: minor version 1 older than expected 2, using it anyway FreeBSD (dot.twiddle.com) (ttyp1) (null): warning: /usr/lib/libutil.so.2.1: minor version 1 older than expected 2, using it anyway (null): Undefined symbol "_login_getclass" called from login:login at 0x6234 Connection closed by foreign host. *joy* 8( Now my question is: "how can I possibly adress this problem??" This is a remote machine.. and I hope there is no need for me to actually need to go where it resides.. it's a lonnngggg trip. Plz... any suggestions apart from go there and boot it single user are greatly appreciated!! *hellllll*p 8-) Anxious for your replies, -Jeroen Hogeveen. v942429@si.hhs.nl jh@twiddle.com From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 15 00:39:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA05129 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 00:39:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.sns.com (jack.sns.com [199.35.183.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA05122 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 00:39:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from speedy by mail.sns.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0wRv8S-000Q5BC; Thu, 15 May 97 00:39 PDT Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970514180658.0082e520@mail.sns.com> X-Sender: ludwigp@mail.sns.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 00:39:30 -0700 To: Abbas AmiriChimeh , questions@freebsd.org From: Ludwig Pummer Subject: Re: Mouse Driver Cc: aamirich@ichips.intel.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 04:58 PM 5/11/97 -0700, Abbas AmiriChimeh wrote: >Dear Customer Support Agent: > > Recently, I bought FreeBSD CD-Rom and installed it on my machine. I have a >Pentium-Pro 150MHz with a Venus Motherboard, ps/2 type mouse connector. I have >difficulties with installing the mouse. I got a ps/2 Logitech Mouseman. When >system reboots and probes the hardware on my machine, it reports: "mse0 IRQ 5 >0X23c, mouse not probed", and as the result, I can't install my mouse in >FreeX86 setup. Would you please guide me how to install my mouse? Thanks. > > >Regards, > >Abbas Amiri You don't want mse0 (that's for a bus mouse), you want psm0 for the PS/2 mouse. As for XFree86... If you've got FreeBSD 2.2 it by default (right?) loads moused so you have have a mouse cursor in the text-mode console. However, moused swallows all mouse input so your mouse won't be seen by XFree86. BUT, moused takes the mouse input and outputs it again to /dev/mouse using the Mouse Systems protocol. If you've got something previous to FreeBSD 2.2, moused isn't loaded by default and you just tell XFree86 that you've got a PS/2 mouse on /dev/psm0. --Ludwig Pummer ----------------------------------------------------------------- ludwigp@sns.com ICQ UIN: 692441 http://chipweb.home.ml.org http://www.sns.com/~ludwigp <--^-- Updated 04/18/97 PGP Key & Geek Code available on web page From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 15 00:44:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA05439 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 00:44:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from DB_INET.dbergstrom.dk ([193.227.202.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA05434 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 00:44:53 -0700 (PDT) From: lars.falch@dbergstrom.dk Received: from schmock.dbergstrom.dk ([193.227.202.115]) by DB_INET.dbergstrom.dk (post.office MTA v1.9.3 ID# 67-121594) with SMTP id AAA113; Thu, 15 May 1997 08:38:27 +0100 Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 08:40:41 +0000 Subject: Re: 2.2.1-RELEASE problem? To: Dan Busarow Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: Z-Mail Pro 6.1 (Win32 - 021297), NetManage Inc. X-Face: &N*s30~FS<,2ize[f6&bQ31$Xo9!U$@BA8.doi\os+0]c$Ow}GnDr|EjMlaOcVrXQj7%(MG YGT7$RR#+TZ-P>z>[]xAGnLFfpz7P;6#j`3-t7jtyd|/g}T~l5J X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi Dan, >I just installed one yesterday and had no problems so it's >not a corrupt distribution. Course I installed DES, maybe >something is always expecting DES? I suppose so. But I tried installing again last night, only without the DES crypto files, and this time it worked. Oh, another thing was, after I installed I chose not to set the root password, and not to create any additional accounts - but it had set some password on the root account, so I couldn't log in? But I installed it again, and set a root password during the installation, and this time everything worked. > I'd suggest downloading and installing the des files > (2.2.1-RELEASE/des/des.* + install.sh). Sounds like a good plan. Regards, Lars From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 15 00:50:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA05682 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 00:50:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from DB_INET.dbergstrom.dk ([193.227.202.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA05676 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 00:50:02 -0700 (PDT) From: lars.falch@dbergstrom.dk Received: from schmock.dbergstrom.dk ([193.227.202.115]) by DB_INET.dbergstrom.dk (post.office MTA v1.9.3 ID# 67-121594) with SMTP id AAA246; Thu, 15 May 1997 08:43:38 +0100 Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 08:48:17 +0000 Subject: Re: 2.2.1-RELEASE problem? To: Barry Masterson Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: Z-Mail Pro 6.1 (Win32 - 021297), NetManage Inc. X-Face: &N*s30~FS<,2ize[f6&bQ31$Xo9!U$@BA8.doi\os+0]c$Ow}GnDr|EjMlaOcVrXQj7%(MG YGT7$RR#+TZ-P>z>[]xAGnLFfpz7P;6#j`3-t7jtyd|/g}T~l5J X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi Barry, >I had similar problems with "ld.so failed" error messages >after a 2.1.7 -> 2.2.1 upgrade, but not with libdes.so.n.n. >For me it was the X libraries, and libraries related to the >functioning of ssh. Okey, but this was quite different, since I couldn't even log in - but I installed it again, without the DES stuff, and this time it worked. Regards, Lars From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 15 01:30:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA07287 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 01:30:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pc-pvl.nanoteq.co.za (pc-pvl.nanoteq.co.za [163.195.219.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA07269 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 01:30:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pc-pvl.nanoteq.co.za (localhost.nanoteq.co.za [127.0.0.1]) by pc-pvl.nanoteq.co.za (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA15600; Thu, 15 May 1997 10:37:41 +0200 (SAT) Message-Id: <199705150837.KAA15600@pc-pvl.nanoteq.co.za> To: "Richard J. Finn" cc: support@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: time zone In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 14 May 1997 12:49:19 EST." <3379FB1F.167E@Houston-InterWeb.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 10:37:41 +0200 From: "P. van Leeuwen" Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > How do I change the time zone in FreeBSD 2.2? On my SGI I simply > change a line in /etc/TIMEZONE to say TZ=CST6CDT. > /stand/sysinstall Goto Configure and there you'll find timezone -- Pierre-Andre van Leeuwen Electronic Engineer Powered By FreeBSD ******************************** * Nanoteq (Pty) Ltd. * * Specialists in data security * * E-mail : pvl@nanoteq.com * * Ph : +27 (0)12 665-1338 * * http://www.nanoteq.co.za * ******************************** From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 15 01:41:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA07782 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 01:41:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nomina.lu.se (nomina.lu.se [130.235.132.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA07777 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 01:41:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hermes.ics.lu.se by nomina.lu.se with SMTP (5.65/IDA-1.2.8) id AA18922; Thu, 15 May 97 10:42:08 +0200 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org From: Tamas_Kovacs@hermes.ics.lu.se (Tamas Kovacs) Reply-To: Tamas_Kovacs@hermes.ics.lu.se (Tamas Kovacs) Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 10:40:15 +0200 Subject: info_request Message-Id: <3530747.16154402@hermes.ics.lu.se> Organization: Informatics, Lund University X-Gateway: FirstClass Gateway for SMTP/NNTP (Mac68K) version 1.02 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from Quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id BAA07778 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi Friends, I am trying to install FreeBSD onto an IBM ps/2 machine with a 486SLC2 processor in it. ( I know it sucks, but this is what I was given by my teaacher...) I downloaded the boot.flp from the 2.2.1-RELEASE/floppy/newer dir, and I've tried to boot from this. Either I configured the kernel somehow(maybe not correctly yet), or I just skipped it, the result is the same. It gets stuck at a certain point and doesn-t go further. This point is: *apm0: disabled, not probed* I asked my friends who have already have installed FreeBSD and gives lots of compliments abut it, but they couldnot help me. So, if you have any idea what I should do, please, let me know. Thanx for your help in advance... Tamas This message sent using the FirstClass SMTP/NNTP Gateway for Mac OS. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 15 01:44:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA07908 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 01:44:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.barcode.co.il (gatekeeper.barcode.co.il [192.116.93.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA07898 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 01:44:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by gatekeeper.barcode.co.il (8.8.5/8.6.12) id LAA06963; Thu, 15 May 1997 11:40:32 +0300 (IDT) X-Authentication-Warning: gatekeeper.barcode.co.il: smap set sender to using -f Received: from localhost.barcode.co.il(127.0.0.1) by gatekeeper.barcode.co.il via smap (V1.3) id sma006959; Thu May 15 11:40:13 1997 Message-ID: <337ACC50.4FF4@barcode.co.il> Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 11:41:52 +0300 From: Nadav Eiron X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; SunOS 5.5 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Richard J. Finn" CC: support@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: time zone References: <3379FB1F.167E@Houston-InterWeb.COM> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Richard J. Finn wrote: > > How do I change the time zone in FreeBSD 2.2? On my SGI I simply > change a line in /etc/TIMEZONE to say TZ=CST6CDT. > > -- > Richard J. Finn rfinn@houston-interweb.com > CTO - Houston InterWeb Design, Inc. > R&D Programmer - NeoSoft, Inc. > http://www.houston-interweb.com/rfinn/ man tzsetup Nadav From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 15 02:01:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA08535 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 02:01:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unix.ukdw.ac.id (unix.ukdw.ac.id [167.205.153.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA08518 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 02:01:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from hendra@localhost) by unix.ukdw.ac.id (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA06315; Thu, 15 May 1997 15:58:42 +0700 (JVT) Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 15:58:42 +0700 (JVT) From: Hendra Sentono To: trstew@ix.netcom.com cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, support@cdrom.com Subject: Re: Unable to get x windows working In-Reply-To: <199751416852441@ix.netcom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 14 May 1997 trstew@ix.netcom.com wrote: > Help! > I have Pentium, 32MB RAM, WIN95 on 1st 1GB partition, > BSD(2.1.6) on 2nd 1GB partion,Using boot manager. > Running S3 3D virge graphics controller with 3D MultiSynic NEC monitor, > ps/2 mouse and keyboard connection. > Unable to configure mouse using /stand/sysinstall: If you are using a ps/2 mouse, make sure that the line device psm0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" conflicts tty irq12 vector psmintr uncommented in your kernel config file. It works for most ps/2 on-board connector. Comment your device mse0 line from the kernel. When running xf86config (either from sysinstall or directly), define your mouse as /dev/psm0 > recommended to use device /dev/mse0 for bus mouse, when I apply > this(using any protocol setting) it reboots the PC. > I have also tried other protocol and device combinations. Please tell > me if mouse, video card and monitor are supported. Would like > very much to use X-windows. I'm not sure if S3 3D virge is supported, but i think the monitor is OK. BTW checkout the documentation about vga cards supported by X11 and how to configure it. (it also depends on your XWin version) > Thanks, > Tim Stewart Hope it would help! ===================================================================== Hendra Sentono | hendra@students.ukdw.ac.id Duta Wacana Christian University | http://www.ukdw.ac.id/ Student of Information Technology | ===================================================================== From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 15 02:14:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA09359 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 02:14:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from light.iinet.net.au (root@light.iinet.net.au [203.19.149.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA09339 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 02:13:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hal9000.hal9000.net.au (hal9000.net.au [203.23.139.11]) by light.iinet.net.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA28301 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 18:44:39 +0930 Received: from earthfx.hal9000.net.au (earthfx.hal9000.net.au [203.23.139.209]) by hal9000.hal9000.net.au (8.8.5/8.7) with SMTP id SAA05165 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 18:43:38 +0930 (CST) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19970515094150.006779f4@hal9000.net.au> X-Sender: lucas@hal9000.net.au X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 18:41:50 +0900 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: lucas Subject: Installation error Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have downloaded the 'bin' directory & install floppy image from the au freeBSD web site, and am having difficulty installing: FreeBSD version: 2.2.1-Release some details on my computer: cyrix 686-120+ 2 hdd: c: 1036 mb - can read/detect all details automatically d: 258 mb - ditto network card: 3com etherlink III 3c509tp port 300 irq 10 cd: atapi - seems to detect ok. OK: i set up all the stuff that the boot comes up with to get rid of conflicts, then go into the installation process. using either novice or custom, i set up for : install from dos partition (c: where the stuff is in freebsd/bin) to d: install boot-manager < i am also using win 95 on c: > it sets up the drive and copies all the stuff from the bin dir then it says 'saving any boot -c changes to new kernel' and freezes when i press ctrl-c to abort, i see the message 'signal 11 caught:thats bad!' filling the screen, then the computer reboots. It seems fine up until that saving message - any ideas/suggestions ? M. Lucas lucas@hal9000.net.au From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 15 02:47:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA10605 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 02:47:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp1.xs4all.nl (smtp1.xs4all.nl [194.109.6.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA10600; Thu, 15 May 1997 02:47:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from magigimmix.xs4all.nl (magigimmix.xs4all.nl [194.109.6.25]) by smtp1.xs4all.nl (8.7.6/XS4ALL) with ESMTP id LAA07318; Thu, 15 May 1997 11:47:00 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from xs2.xs4all.nl (xs2.xs4all.nl [194.109.6.43]) by magigimmix.xs4all.nl (8.7.6/XS4ALL) with ESMTP id LAA26785; Thu, 15 May 1997 11:46:58 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from albast@localhost) by xs2.xs4all.nl (8.7.6/XS4ALL) id LAA06454; Thu, 15 May 1997 11:46:58 +0200 (MET DST) From: albast Message-Id: <199705150946.LAA06454@xs2.xs4all.nl> Subject: login.conf: libutil To: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 11:46:57 +0200 (MET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Regarding the last message I sent, about the RELENG_2_2 make world libutil; Just one more question.. would it help to simply let someone turn off, and then turn the machine back on? rc does the ldconfig thing.. sorry for the extra message! My mind is a little 'preoccupied' lately.. -Jeroen. albast@xs4all.nl jh@twiddle.com From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 15 05:08:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA15146 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 05:08:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pericles.razorlogic.com (pericles.razorlogic.com [206.184.62.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id FAA15141 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 05:08:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hercules.razorlogic.com by pericles.razorlogic.com id aa02895; 15 May 97 5:01 PDT Message-ID: <337AFB6D.6422@razorlogic.com> Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 05:02:53 -0700 From: Stick X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD, is it for me? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I have been looking through your FreeBSD web site trying to answere a question i have but i am finding that i can't answer this question by myself. I hope that you could answer my question or possibly point me in the right dirrection. My question(s) is: I was thinking of hosting my own Internet site using my computer, is that possible using FreeBSD? If so what else will I need to make this possible? The university that i am attending run three unix base systems for their web server, e-mail, and other stuff. If i had FreeBSD, is there a way that i connect to their computers? The classes i am taking at this university have my using unix on occasions, could i use FreeBSD on my computer to learn more and do some of my work on my computer rather than using Hyper Terminal (W95) to connect to the Universities computers? Thank you for your time! =-) Stephen "Stick" Hazen sjh10@axe.humboldt.edu stick11@razorlogic.com http://www.humboldt.edu/~sjh10 From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 15 05:53:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA16653 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 05:53:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from d2si.com (macbeth.d2si.com [206.8.31.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA16647 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 05:52:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from alec@localhost) by d2si.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA09411; Thu, 15 May 1997 07:52:42 -0500 (CDT) From: Alec Kloss Message-Id: <199705151252.HAA09411@d2si.com> Subject: Re: FreeBSD, is it for me? In-Reply-To: <337AFB6D.6422@razorlogic.com> from Stick at "May 15, 97 05:02:53 am" To: stick11@razorlogic.com (Stick) Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 07:52:42 -0500 (CDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Stick is responsible for: > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 15 07:35:55 1997 > Message-ID: <337AFB6D.6422@razorlogic.com> > Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 05:02:53 -0700 > From: Stick > X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) > To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: FreeBSD, is it for me? > Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Precedence: bulk > Hello, > > I have been looking through your FreeBSD web site trying to answere a > question i have but i am finding that i can't answer this question by > myself. I hope that you could answer my question or possibly point me in > the right dirrection. My question(s) is: > > I was thinking of hosting my own Internet site using my computer, is > that possible using FreeBSD? If so what else will I need to make this > possible? You'll need some way to connect to the internet--on the cheapest end, you'll need a modem, a spare telephone line (or use your voice line if you don't mind tying it up) and an account with some sort of service provider. A simple dynamic-ip dialin will typically run you $20/month. If you can dial into your school with dynamic-ip, that'll work too. > > The university that i am attending run three unix base systems for their > web server, e-mail, and other stuff. If i had FreeBSD, is there a way > that i connect to their computers? There are lots of ways to connect FreeBSD to lots of other computers. You can use (among other things): NFS Appletalk SMB (Windows networking) telnet ftp POP (post office protocol) HTTP (world-wide-web) X11 and who knows how many other ways. > > The classes i am taking at this university have my using unix on > occasions, could i use FreeBSD on my computer to learn more and do some > of my work on my computer rather than using Hyper Terminal (W95) to > connect to the Universities computers? FreeBSD comes with a C compiler (of course) and you can get many other tools, as I recall, the computer I'm sitting at has C, C++, fortran, scheme, smalltalk, TeX, metafont, and a few other languages. I've had very good luck compiling C and C++ assignments on FreeBSD, SunOS, and IRIX without any changes to the source code. > > Thank you for your time! =-) > > Stephen "Stick" Hazen > > sjh10@axe.humboldt.edu > stick11@razorlogic.com > http://www.humboldt.edu/~sjh10 > It sounds to me like FreeBSD could very possibly be for you. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 15 05:55:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA16755 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 05:55:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zwei.siemens.at (zwei.siemens.at [193.81.246.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA16743 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 05:55:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ws6303-f.gud.siemens.co.at (root@firix [10.1.143.100]) by zwei.siemens.at with ESMTP id OAA06941; Thu, 15 May 1997 14:56:12 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ws6423.gud.siemens.at (ws6423-f) by ws6303-f.gud.siemens.co.at with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA155740945; Thu, 15 May 1997 14:55:45 +0200 Received: by ws6423.gud.siemens.at (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA02039; Thu, 15 May 1997 14:46:28 +0200 Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 14:46:28 +0200 From: lada@ws6303.gud.siemens.at (Hr.Ladavac) Message-Id: <199705151246.OAA02039@ws6423.gud.siemens.at> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, stick11@razorlogic.com Subject: Re: FreeBSD, is it for me? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Md5: F1YSf1gtxnZeYME5dC5Smg== Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 15 14:33:25 MET 1997 > Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 05:02:53 -0700 > From: Stick > Mime-Version: 1.0 > To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: FreeBSD, is it for me? > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Hello, > > I have been looking through your FreeBSD web site trying to answere a > question i have but i am finding that i can't answer this question by > myself. I hope that you could answer my question or possibly point me in > the right dirrection. My question(s) is: > > I was thinking of hosting my own Internet site using my computer, is > that possible using FreeBSD? If so what else will I need to make this > possible? Certainly. It's there "out of the box" so to say. You will need: * a computer, 386 or better with at least 5 MB RAM for installation, but it will run on less RAM * some way to connect to your provider (some kind of a modem if it's a remote connection, some kind of Ethernet if it's local) * FreeBSD itself * a little bit of patience to install and set the whole thing up. > > The university that i am attending run three unix base systems for their > web server, e-mail, and other stuff. If i had FreeBSD, is there a way > that i connect to their computers? See above, and read the Handbook and FAQ's you will find in /usr/share/doc on the installed system. > > The classes i am taking at this university have my using unix on > occasions, could i use FreeBSD on my computer to learn more and do some > of my work on my computer rather than using Hyper Terminal (W95) to > connect to the Universities computers? Very likely. However, in order to set up the system properly, you will need some UNIX sysadmin experience (not very much--people on this list are very helpful if you have a concrete question; also, the most common ones are answered in the FAQ, man pages, and Handbook.) > > Thank you for your time! =-) You're welcome, /Marino > > Stephen "Stick" Hazen > > sjh10@axe.humboldt.edu > stick11@razorlogic.com > http://www.humboldt.edu/~sjh10 > From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 15 06:40:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA18567 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 06:40:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from beowulf.utmb.edu (beowulf.utmb.edu [129.109.59.83]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA18557 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 06:40:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bdodson@localhost) by beowulf.utmb.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA03664; Thu, 15 May 1997 08:37:55 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 08:37:55 -0500 (CDT) From: "M. L. Dodson" Message-Id: <199705151337.IAA03664@beowulf.utmb.edu> To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, dmaddox@scsn.net Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.1.7 and COMPAT_43 -Reply X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk [big deletia] > > I can see that this is about to turn into one of those 'BSD-tradition vs. > common sense' debates, and I have no desire to participate in that; common > sense cannot win because the traditionalists never relent, and without > consensus, the status quo remains just that. > > Meanwhile, WindowsNT's market share continues to climb, supplanting what > *might* have been FreeBSD market share... Too bad for us that they aren't > saddled with a 'traditional' steep learning curve... > > -- > > > Donald J. Maddox > (dmaddox@scsn.net) > No, they are saddled with being NT. Hack away! ;-) I think diffs are communicated back to core with send-pr (man 1 send-pr). If your mind works like NT, you will like NT. If it doesn't, you won't. I doubt that kernel configuration details are rate limiting in the "success" of FreeBSD. Bud Dodson -- M. L. Dodson bdodson@scms.utmb.edu 409-772-2178 FAX: 409-772-1790 From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 15 06:57:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA19197 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 06:57:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from beowulf.utmb.edu (beowulf.utmb.edu [129.109.59.83]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA19192 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 06:57:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bdodson@localhost) by beowulf.utmb.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA03690; Thu, 15 May 1997 08:54:35 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 08:54:35 -0500 (CDT) From: "M. L. Dodson" Message-Id: <199705151354.IAA03690@beowulf.utmb.edu> To: dmaddox@scsn.net, kevin_eliuk@sunshine.net Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.1.7 and COMPAT_43 -Reply Cc: ben@narcissus.ml.org, questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > I tried to stop myself but I have to say it (as a new user). > > As far as I can tell, If someone cannot open 3 terminals, One for the > handbook, one for LINT, and one to cp GENERIC whatever and edit > whatever, I think a refer all to LINT or Handbook or man *(*) is > probably appropriate. I disagree that you have to change the OS for > new users, you have to change new users for the OS. > > The only idea that seemed possible in reading this (plus the other) > string was something like `vikernel' that could use an editor which > would use a configuration database that would check the configuration > for missing required `options' as well as typographical errors, a > spell checker of sorts, as part of the write command. > Now that is a really excellent idea! Some of us "traditionalists" (Boy, it feels good to be referred to like that!) don't mind change, we just don't want the changes to turn configuring *BSD (kernel and/or user environment) _into_ NT, with all its mind numbing restrictions and undocumented "features". We _like_ flexibility, even it it steepens the learning curve. I have FreeBSD boxes doing things Microsoft hasn't even dreamed about, much less put into NT. That said, vipw is a _dramatic_ improvement over bare editing of the password files. Something like that would be great, IMHO. (But implementing it is would be nontrivial, methinks, and likely version-specific, at least in the early incarnations, until the proper options to be dealt with are identified and abstracted.) Bud Dodson -- M. L. Dodson bdodson@scms.utmb.edu 409-772-2178 FAX: 409-772-1790 From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 15 07:02:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA19555 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 07:02:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from horton.iaces.com (root@horton.iaces.com [204.147.87.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA19549 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 07:02:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from proot@localhost) by horton.iaces.com (8.8.5/8.8.4) id JAA01312 for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 15 May 1997 09:02:49 -0500 (CDT) From: "Paul T. Root" Message-Id: <199705151402.JAA01312@horton.iaces.com> Subject: Help with xwave %« To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 09:02:49 -0500 (CDT) X-Organization: !nterprise Networking Services - ACES X-Phone: (612) 663-1979 X-Fax: (612) 663-8030 X-Page: (800) SKY-PAGE PIN: 537-7270 X-Address: 200 S. 5th St., Suite 1100 X-Address: Minneapolis, MN 55402 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I'm trying to get Xwave 0.6 working on FreeBSD 2.2.1 with the OSS/FreeBSD sound kernel module. The compile seems to work fine (I had to specifically define -DFreeBSD in the ./src/Makefile), but make install bombs out in FWF when trying to install library libDir.a. Which doesn't seem to exist. Do you have any ideas? Thanks, Paul. -- Miscellaneous Ramblings of a Madman. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 15 07:23:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA20387 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 07:23:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.EUnet.hu (www.eunet.hu [193.225.28.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA20381 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 07:23:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.EUnet.hu, id QAA18277; Thu, 15 May 1997 16:23:37 +0200 Received: (from zgabor@localhost) by CoDe.hu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA00661; Thu, 15 May 1997 15:22:47 +0200 (MET DST) From: Zahemszky Gabor Message-Id: <199705151322.PAA00661@CoDe.hu> Subject: Re: time zone To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org (FreeBSD questions) Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 15:22:47 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: rfinn@Houston-InterWeb.COM In-Reply-To: <3379FB1F.167E@Houston-InterWeb.COM> from "Richard J. Finn" at "May 14, 97 12:49:19 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL11 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > How do I change the time zone in FreeBSD 2.2? On my SGI I simply > change a line in /etc/TIMEZONE to say TZ=CST6CDT. cp /usr/share/zoneinfo/foo/bar /etc/localtime foo = Europe/Africa/... bar = the city which is in the same time zone, as you If you use DOS/Win/... in your machine, too, ``touch /etc/wall_cmos_clock'' (So FBSD will know, that your machine's hardware clock use the local time, not GMT/UTC) Bye, Gabor -- #!/bin/ksh Z='21N16I25C25E30, 40M30E33E25T15U!' ;IFS=' ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ ';set $Z;for i { [[ $i = ? ]]&&print $i&&break;[[ $i = ??? ]]&&j=$i&&i=${i%?};typeset -i40 i=8#$i;print -n ${i#???};[[ "$j" = ??? ]]&&print -n "${j#??} "&&j=;typeset +i i;};IFS=' 0123456789 ';set $Z;X=;for i { [[ $i = , ]]&&i=2;[[ $i = ?? ]]||typeset -l i;X="$X $i";typeset +l i;};print "$X" From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 15 07:23:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA20411 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 07:23:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.EUnet.hu (www.eunet.hu [193.225.28.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA20394 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 07:23:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.EUnet.hu, id QAA18271; Thu, 15 May 1997 16:23:32 +0200 Received: (from zgabor@localhost) by CoDe.hu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA00607; Thu, 15 May 1997 14:38:18 +0200 (MET DST) From: Zahemszky Gabor Message-Id: <199705151238.OAA00607@CoDe.hu> Subject: Re: parameter expansion To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org (FreeBSD questions) Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 14:38:17 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: un_x@anchorage.net In-Reply-To: from Steve Howe at "May 14, 97 12:00:30 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL11 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > #!/bin/ksh > Z='21N16I25C25E30, 40M30E33E25T15U!' ;IFS=' ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ '; > set $Z;for i { [[ $i = ? ]]&&print $i&&break;[[ $i = ??? ]]&&j=$i&&i=${i%?}; > typeset -i40 i=8#$i;print -n ${i#???};[[ "$j" = ??? ]]&&print -n "${j#??} "&& > j=;typeset +i i;};IFS=' 0123456789 ';set $Z;X=;for i { [[ $i = , ]]&&i=2; > [[ $i = ?? ]]||typeset -l i;X="$X $i";typeset +l i;};print "$X" > > i tried this thing with sh - but only got errors :( > (i was a little scared it would do something evil!) Well, try to break that long line into shorter ones, eg: sed -e 's/;/\ /g' my_signature_file It's a bit more readable ... And what was the eror message? > i don't have ksh ... Get the pdksh package (or port), or the last version (5.2.12) from it's main site: ftp://ftp.cs.mun.ca:/pub/pdksh (Of course, I wrote that neither bash nor zsh can handle this - if I know well - neither of them is a real ksh.) Or get the real AT&T ksh (the BSDI or the Linux version) , from http://www.research.att.com/orgs/ssr/reuse/ - There is the last ksh93 version, which has very interesting features in it. But the source is missing :-( Bye, Gabor -- #!/bin/ksh Z='21N16I25C25E30, 40M30E33E25T15U!' ;IFS=' ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ ';set $Z;for i { [[ $i = ? ]]&&print $i&&break;[[ $i = ??? ]]&&j=$i&&i=${i%?};typeset -i40 i=8#$i;print -n ${i#???};[[ "$j" = ??? ]]&&print -n "${j#??} "&&j=;typeset +i i;};IFS=' 0123456789 ';set $Z;X=;for i { [[ $i = , ]]&&i=2;[[ $i = ?? ]]||typeset -l i;X="$X $i";typeset +l i;};print "$X" From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 15 07:23:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA20429 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 07:23:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.EUnet.hu (www.eunet.hu [193.225.28.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA20409 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 07:23:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.EUnet.hu, id QAA18284; Thu, 15 May 1997 16:23:39 +0200 Received: (from zgabor@localhost) by CoDe.hu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA00675 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 15 May 1997 15:27:35 +0200 (MET DST) From: Zahemszky Gabor Message-Id: <199705151327.PAA00675@CoDe.hu> Subject: Re: blank screen after starting twm/fvwm95 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org (FreeBSD questions) Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 15:27:34 +0200 (MET DST) In-Reply-To: from Joachim Kuebart at "May 13, 97 06:58:35 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL11 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Just to make sure, copy > cp /usr/X11R7/lib/X11/fvwm95/system.fvwm95rc $HOME Hm. It would be better, I think. cp /usr/X11R7/lib/X11/fvwm95/system.fvwm95rc $HOME/.fvwm95rc Bye, Gabor -- #!/bin/ksh Z='21N16I25C25E30, 40M30E33E25T15U!' ;IFS=' ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ ';set $Z;for i { [[ $i = ? ]]&&print $i&&break;[[ $i = ??? ]]&&j=$i&&i=${i%?};typeset -i40 i=8#$i;print -n ${i#???};[[ "$j" = ??? ]]&&print -n "${j#??} "&&j=;typeset +i i;};IFS=' 0123456789 ';set $Z;X=;for i { [[ $i = , ]]&&i=2;[[ $i = ?? ]]||typeset -l i;X="$X $i";typeset +l i;};print "$X" From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 15 08:44:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA24588 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 08:44:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from battra.telebase.com (mail@battra.telebase.com [192.132.57.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA24583 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 08:44:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mail@localhost) by battra.telebase.com (8.8.3/8.8.1) id LAA18077 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 11:44:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unknown(172.16.2.129) by battra.telebase.com via smap/n2k (V1.3) id sma018047; Thu May 15 11:43:33 1997 Received: from maxwell.telebase.com (maxwell.telebase.com [172.16.5.208]) by wormhole.telebase.com (8.8.5/8.8.1) with SMTP id LAA29601 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 11:43:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <337B3D57.C9@n2k.com> Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 11:44:07 -0500 From: D Ruiz X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Please, help me! [installing 2.1.6 from CDROM on Compaq 5000] References: <337A5DD9.5ACF@netreach.net> <337B38FC.140D@n2k.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Jacques Ehrlich wrote / a ecrit: > > Does anybody help me to install Freebsd 2.1.6 from a CDROM ? > > I am trying to install freebsd on a "Compaq Professional Workstation > 5000". [clip] > Finally, at the time to install freebsd from CDROM, the following > message appear : > > "No CDROM device found. Please check that your system configuration is > correct and that the CDROMdrive is of a supported type." I recently helped a friend who was trying to install FreeBSD 2.1.5 from CD on a Compaq Presario 4170. I have installed 2.1.5 without difficulty on two other more 'generic' machines (i.e., not Compaq). Searching the newsgroup archive [http://www.freebsd.org/search.html], we learned that others had had similar difficulties with 'seeing' the CDROM device on various Compaq 4xxx when installing with 2.1.[56]. Their advice was to move directly 2.2.1, and it was our solution. We installed quickly and easily using the 2.2.1. This may be your best solution; I don't know for certain. D Ruiz From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 15 09:39:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA28173 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 09:39:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iceberg.anchorage.net. (iceberg.anchorage.net [207.14.72.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA28159 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 09:39:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aak.anchorage.net (ai-132 [207.14.72.132]) by iceberg.anchorage.net. (8.6.11/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA13156; Thu, 15 May 1997 07:36:09 -0800 Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 08:29:08 -0800 (AKDT) From: Steve Howe X-Sender: abc@aak.anchorage.net To: dmaddox@scsn.net cc: Snob Art Genre , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.1.7 and COMPAT_43 -Reply In-Reply-To: <19970515002255.62491@cola77.scsn.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 15 May 1997, Donald J. Maddox wrote: > No, that's not what I meant. I'm not qualified to do an in-depth anaylsis of > NT's success; however, I _know_ that an appreciable number of people who might > have chosen a UNIX-like OS end up giving up in frustration... Just _installing_ > most UNIX-alikes is a daunting task for the average user, and once they _do_ > manage to get to their first login: prompt, they find themselves in a foreign > place where the signposts are not all that obvious. If they ask for help, they > are likely to be greeted by RTFM and UTSL, and they often don't know what > FM to R. > > Most of the 'traditionalists' would probably say that we are better off keeping > the clueless out of the club, and maybe that's a valid point of view. But some > of us would like to see more commercial support for FreeBSD, and the way to get > that is obviously to increase the user base, even if it means inviting in the > unwashed masses. > > In short, I think that anything that can be done to flatten the learning > curve, to make the install easier, to make customizing the environment easier, > especially when it comes at no real cost (like friendlier kernel config > files, for example) is a Good Thing, and will help us, at least a little, > to minimize the advantage that NT has with it's familiar Windows interface, > etc. i don't think Windows is any easier to install/manage than FBSD. i think the fact that most people buy their PC's with Windows pre-installed is being forgotten. all the avg PC users i know couldn't install 96 or NT without tech support, and i know engineers that diddle-daddled with NT for weeks just trying to get them to ping each other! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 15 10:23:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA01492 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 10:23:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from neptune.neptune.net (doug@neptune.neptune.net [204.107.103.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA01481 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 10:22:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from doug@localhost) by neptune.neptune.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA08192 for FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 15 May 1997 10:18:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 10:18:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705151718.KAA08192@neptune.neptune.net> From: Doug Jolley Subject: Re: FIXIT doesn't fit To: undisclosed-recipients:; Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Many thanks to all those who responded to my post in this thread. All comments are sincerely appreciated. I thought it might be helpful to others to mention the solution that worked for me. Recall that the problem was a "Sector not found" complaint in attempting to build a fixit 1.44" floppy using fdimage.exe from the 2.1.7 CD-ROM distribution of FreeBSD from Walnut Creek. The solution was to use an updated version of fdimage.exe obtained from ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/tools. The updated version was dated 970507 and contained 17,728 bytes. The version distributed with the 2.1.7 CD was dated 2/9/97 and contained 16,174 bytes. BTW, the version distributed with the 2.2.1 CD is dated 3/16/97 and also contains 16,174 bytes. Both of these versions seem to suffer from the same problem. The updated version that I obtained via FTP seemed to work just fine. I was also successful using rawrite. I hope this may be helpful to others. ... doug ______________________________________________________________________________ Doug Jolley mailto://doug@cybernautics.net http://www.cybernautics.net Don't bogart that file, my friend. Net it over to me. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 15 10:27:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA01764 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 10:27:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from buffnet4.buffnet.net (buffnet4.buffnet.net [205.246.19.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA01759 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 10:27:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from buffnet11.buffnet.net (shovey@buffnet11.buffnet.net [205.246.19.55]) by buffnet4.buffnet.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA12019 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 13:26:41 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 13:26:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: radius, usr total control and freebsd Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Anyone successfully using merit radius from the ports collection on freebsd with the usr total control network hub? Im having some trouble and could use some help. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 15 10:56:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA03690 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 10:56:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ssnet.com (uucp@marlin.ssnet.com [208.212.179.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA03637 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 10:56:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from seitz.UUCP (uucp@localhost) by ssnet.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with UUCP id NAA13592 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 15 May 1997 13:54:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by seitz.com; Thu, 15 May 97 13:53:08 EDT Message-ID: <9A9E782F012E0F00@seitz.com> Date: 15 May 97 13:23:29 -0500 From: Chris Brown To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Can FreeBSD be loaded from DOS? X-Mailer: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk VERY shortly (within the week) I'll be setting up a new server and the folks here at work wanted to know if FreeBSD can be loaded from DOS. I have loaded Linux using loadlin.exe from DOS and am currently doing it from Win95 at home but now. Is there something similar for FreeBSD? I really don't want to do it from FreeBSD's boot loader because we have computer folks that are campetent with the hardware but are not familiar with UN*X. Since so much of the hardware these days is software configured via DOS apps. it will be necessary to load DOS and possibly windows at some point. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 15 10:56:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA03724 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 10:56:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ssnet.com (uucp@marlin.ssnet.com [208.212.179.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA03706 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 10:56:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from seitz.UUCP (uucp@localhost) by ssnet.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with UUCP id NAA13581 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 15 May 1997 13:54:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: by seitz.com; Thu, 15 May 97 12:56:19 EDT Message-ID: <909E782F012E0F00@seitz.com> Date: 15 May 97 12:56:04 -0500 From: Chris Brown To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Multiple PI addresses on an ethernet card. X-Mailer: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have been running Linux and will have to set up a FreeBSD box. One of the things that will be necessary is to have alias PI addresses on the ethernet card to run multiple domains for an apache web server. In Linux the only thing that is necessary is to compile the kernel with alias support then set up the addresses with ifconfig during boot. Like so: ifconfig eth0 10.0.0.1 ifconfig eth0:0 10.0.0.2 ifconfig eth0:1 10.0.0.3 Then you add routes for the all the addresses on the card. I would think that it would be basically the same on FreeBSD but I didn't see it in the FreeBSD handbook or the FAQs but I may have missed it. Can someone point me at some documentation and possibly give me the abridged version of this? From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 15 11:18:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA05324 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 11:18:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from merit.edu (merit.edu [198.108.1.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA05315 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 11:18:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ohm.merit.edu (ohm.merit.edu [198.108.60.65]) by merit.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA15923; Thu, 15 May 1997 14:18:37 -0400 (EDT) From: William Bulley Received: (web@localhost) by ohm.merit.edu (8.6.9/8.6.5) id OAA18143; Thu, 15 May 1997 14:19:24 -0400 Message-Id: <199705151819.OAA18143@ohm.merit.edu> Subject: Re: radius, usr total control and freebsd To: shovey@buffnet.net (Steve) Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 14:19:24 -0400 (EDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Steve" at May 15, 97 01:26:40 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk According to Steve: > > Anyone successfully using merit radius from the ports collection on > freebsd with the usr total control network hub? > > Im having some trouble and could use some help. Last time I checked the ports collection contained a very old version of the Merit server. I have built our server on 2.1.5 without problem. Regards, web... -- William Bulley, N8NXN Senior Systems Research Programmer Merit Network, Inc. Email: web@merit.edu 4251 Plymouth Road, Suite C Phone: (313) 764-9993 Ann Arbor, Michigan 48105-2785 Fax: (313) 647-3185 [ What's all the fuss over the end of the century with mission critial ] [ programs failing due to dates? If people simply started using Roman ] [ Numerials the problem vanishes! MCM = 1900 MCMXCIX = 1999 MM = 2000 ] From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 15 11:49:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA07071 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 11:49:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mtigwc04.worldnet.att.net (mailhost.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA07065 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 11:49:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from LOCALNAME ([207.147.169.226]) by mtigwc04.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with SMTP id AAA27993 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 18:49:13 +0000 Message-ID: <337B5B4A.5781@worldnet.att.net> Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 11:51:54 -0700 From: "Jeffrey J. Ayres" Organization: independent X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: starting fvwm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Because the second disk on the 2.1.5 FreeBSD was damaged CDROM replaced the disks with 2.2.1 FreeBSD. The 2.1.5 version worked great, xdm and twm, no bugs. However many programs were not available. The following patches were necessary in order to start xdm and twm using version 2.1.5 FreeBSD. In /etc/rc.local, the following was added: echo -n 'starting local daemons:' # put your local stuff here /usr/X11R6/bin/xdm && echo -n ' twm' The following .xsession file was added #!/bin/sh # # .xinitrc - X Windows initialization file, FreeBSD/twm version. # Wes Peters; 05/25/95 # # Run .profile to make sure we get the environment setup correctly. # . ~/.profile TZ=MST7MDT; export TZ # # Start clients - just a terminal window to start with. # xterm & # # Start a window manager - twm to start with. This program becomes the # 'session manager', exit from it to logout from X. # twm Starting from a "clean" slice I wish to install fvwm95. Installation of the window manager program fvwm95 using the above commands is not working. fvwm95 replaced twm whenever it appears. The symptoms are the xdm login screen appears allowing login. Then a blank screen appears, no window, only the fvwm95 menu appears after clicking the right mouse button (default menu and exit buttons). The error message in the -xsession-errors file reads > > Fvwm-95: in function Read: <>file ' .fvwm95rc' not found in > > $HOME or /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fvwm95 > > Fvwm-95:in function Read: trying to read system rc file > > Fvwm-95: in function Read:<> file 'system.fvwm95rc' not > > found in $HOME or /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fvwm95 Both 'system.fvwm95rc' and '.fvwm95rc' are present in the $HOME directory. Also, there is recurring error message, ' XF86_SVGA pid ### tried to use non present SYSVSHM ' the message is displayed whenever logging out. Could someone please help me to setup the fvwm95 correctly and remedy the XF86_SVGA error message? Thanks, Jeff Ayres From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 15 12:12:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA08664 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 12:12:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.tecnonet.it (root@dns.tecnonet.it [194.184.49.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA08572 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 12:11:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Irene.ProMIND.it (pgmdmc.tecnonet.it [194.184.49.43]) by mail.tecnonet.it (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA05575 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 20:13:15 +0200 Message-ID: <337B5FB9.28DC6AB@tecnonet.it> Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 21:10:49 +0200 From: Antonello Biancalana Organization: ProMIND software development X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; Linux 2.0.18 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Info about installation Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am interested in installing FreeBSD in my system and I should like to know whether ATAPI CD-Roms are supported as installation media. I read somewhere that FreeBSD require a SCSI CDRom in order to get it installed. Can I buy the CDRom version of FreeBSD and install it by means of my Piooneer ATAPI CD-Rom? With my very best regards. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ | Antonello Biancalana | e-mail: promind@tecnonet.it | | ProMIND software development | Powered by LinuX | ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 15 12:13:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA08760 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 12:13:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fireball.blast.net (root@fireball.blast.net [204.141.163.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA08754; Thu, 15 May 1997 12:13:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from flashpoint.blast.net (flashpoint.blast.net [204.141.163.62]) by fireball.blast.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA22844; Thu, 15 May 1997 15:12:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199705151912.PAA22844@fireball.blast.net> From: "Pat McPartland" To: , "FBSD questions" Subject: 2.1.5 or 2.2.1 Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 15:08:29 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I am an ISP. I have to upgrade my webserver. Should I upgrade to 2.1.5 or 2.2.1? I have the CDs, but I'm not sure which would be better. I was thinking of upgrading to 2.2.1 since I have it, but I read a message in the archives discouraging 2.2.1? Any advice? Thanks, Pat Patrick McPartland mcp@blast.net From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 15 12:25:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA09578 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 12:25:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.nih.gov (poca57.capecod.net [205.230.13.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA09568 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 12:25:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from crtb@localhost) by localhost.nih.gov (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA00231 for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 15 May 1997 15:24:20 -0400 Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 15:24:20 -0400 From: Chuck Message-Id: <199705151924.PAA00231@localhost.nih.gov> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Slow printer behavior Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Running FreeBSD 2.2.0-RELEASE. Problem: Printer (a Canon BJ200 Bubble-Jet) runs at normal speed about half the time, but often excruciatingly slowly. Sometimes it will print an entire page, pausing about ten seconds between passes across the paper. And other times it goes at normal speed. I use apsfilter and ghostscript 3.51 for most printing. This behavior just began about a month ago. I think of a bad connection somewhere, with an ACK signal failing or something like that. Or is it possible that the printer port interrupt can get turned off, and the /dev/lpt driver fails to restore it? Wonder if anyone else has seen this happen. I'd be grateful to find out! Chuck Bacon -- crtb@capecod.net ABHOR SECRECY -- DEFEND PRIVACY From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 15 12:32:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA09878 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 12:32:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.nih.gov (poca57.capecod.net [205.230.13.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA09872 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 12:32:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from crtb@localhost) by localhost.nih.gov (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA00241 for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 15 May 1997 15:31:52 -0400 Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 15:31:52 -0400 From: Chuck Message-Id: <199705151931.PAA00241@localhost.nih.gov> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: pppd fails to clear routing table Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Sometimes, perhaps half the time, when my line drops (almost always by the ISP because of a timeout), pppd fails to clear the routes. I tried to add scripting in /etc/ppp/ip-down to clear the routes, and always get permission denied; "you must be root to fiddle with route". Now, man pppd says that ip-down is exec'ed by pppd upon disconnection, as root. Well, the route command feels differently! So there are two issues: 1. Why is the route table sometimes not cleared? The IP address for the ppp link will remain sometimes after the line has gone. 2. Why does route(8) deny ip-down permission to alter routes? Chuck Bacon -- crtb@capecod.net ABHOR SECRECY -- DEFEND PRIVACY From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 15 12:32:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA09909 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 12:32:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from emu.state51.co.uk (emu.state51.co.uk [194.159.145.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA09893 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 12:32:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [194.159.145.12] [194.159.145.12] by emu.state51.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.58 #1) id 0wS6Gb-00026I-00; Thu, 15 May 1997 20:32:46 +0100 X-Sender: philip@mailgate.state51.co.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 20:26:23 +0100 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Philip Crewdson Subject: Network card recommendations for Real Media server Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I need to set up a FreeBSD box to be used as a dedicated Real Media server. In theory, this will involve serving 20kbit streams to many different hosts at once. Does anyone have any thoughts they can share on what I should be looking for in a network card? It's not really my field. Ta. ============= Philip Crewdson philip@state51.co.uk a member of the state51 conspiracy http://www.state51.co.uk/ raft crew http://www.vmg.co.uk/ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 15 12:57:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA10931 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 12:57:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from user.xtdl.com (user.xtdl.com [206.25.228.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA10908; Thu, 15 May 1997 12:57:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from sderdau@localhost) by user.xtdl.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA06469; Thu, 15 May 1997 16:08:09 -0400 Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 16:08:09 -0400 (EDT) From: "Stephen A. Derdau" To: Pat McPartland cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, FBSD questions Subject: Re: 2.1.5 or 2.2.1 In-Reply-To: <199705151912.PAA22844@fireball.blast.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Yes please let me know also....WE also are an ISP and are meeting tonight to discuss an upgrade. Which version of FreeBSD do you need to run front page extensions is all that I would add. Thank You Stephen A. Derdau XTDL inc 603 4714700 "It's just a matter of perspective" On Thu, 15 May 1997, Pat McPartland wrote: > Hello, > I am an ISP. I have to upgrade my webserver. Should I upgrade to 2.1.5 or > 2.2.1? I have the CDs, but I'm not sure which would be better. I was > thinking of upgrading to 2.2.1 since I have it, but I read a message in the > archives discouraging 2.2.1? Any advice? > > Thanks, > > Pat > > Patrick McPartland > mcp@blast.net > From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 15 13:03:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA11351 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 13:03:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rosie.scsn.net (scsn.net [206.25.246.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA11346 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 13:03:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cola100.scsn.net ([206.25.247.100]) by rosie.scsn.net (Post.Office MTA v3.0 release 0121 ID# 0-32322U5000L100S10000) with ESMTP id AAA154 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 15:56:09 -0400 Received: (from root@localhost) by cola100.scsn.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA00818; Thu, 15 May 1997 16:03:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19970515160304.06284@cola100.scsn.net> Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 16:03:04 -0400 From: "Donald J. Maddox" To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.1.7 and COMPAT_43 -Reply References: <199705151354.IAA03690@beowulf.utmb.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: <199705151354.IAA03690@beowulf.utmb.edu>; from M. L. Dodson on Thu, May 15, 1997 at 08:54:35AM -0500 Reply-To: dmaddox@scsn.net Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, May 15, 1997 at 08:54:35AM -0500, M. L. Dodson wrote: > > > > > I tried to stop myself but I have to say it (as a new user). > > > > As far as I can tell, If someone cannot open 3 terminals, One for the > > handbook, one for LINT, and one to cp GENERIC whatever and edit > > whatever, I think a refer all to LINT or Handbook or man *(*) is > > probably appropriate. I disagree that you have to change the OS for > > new users, you have to change new users for the OS. > > > > The only idea that seemed possible in reading this (plus the other) > > string was something like `vikernel' that could use an editor which > > would use a configuration database that would check the configuration > > for missing required `options' as well as typographical errors, a > > spell checker of sorts, as part of the write command. > > > > Now that is a really excellent idea! > > Some of us "traditionalists" (Boy, it feels good to be referred to > like that!) don't mind change, we just don't want the changes to turn > configuring *BSD (kernel and/or user environment) _into_ NT, with all > its mind numbing restrictions and undocumented "features". We _like_ > flexibility, even it it steepens the learning curve. I have FreeBSD > boxes doing things Microsoft hasn't even dreamed about, much less put > into NT. > > That said, vipw is a _dramatic_ improvement over bare editing of > the password files. Something like that would be great, IMHO. > (But implementing it is would be nontrivial, methinks, and likely > version-specific, at least in the early incarnations, until the > proper options to be dealt with are identified and abstracted.) Let me make myself perfectly clear: I *am not* in favor of bastardizing FreeBSD into an NT clone, or anything even remotely like that. All of my posts on this subject simply seek to make the point that if we can make things easier _without_ changing the nature of FreeBSD (like making config files friendlier, for example), then we should. There is *no* downside that I can see. And if you are not opposed to change, then you are not one of the 'traditionalists' I refer to. Reading the above, it sounds very much like you and I are on the same side here. -- Donald J. Maddox (dmaddox@scsn.net) From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 15 13:03:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA11398 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 13:03:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cs.nps.navy.mil (cs.nps.navy.mil [131.120.1.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA11393 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 13:03:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [131.120.145.177] by cs.nps.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA12143; Thu, 15 May 97 13:03:03 PDT Date: Thu, 15 May 97 13:03:03 PDT Message-Id: <9705152003.AA12143@cs.nps.navy.mil> X-Sender: jwhester@cs.nps.navy.mil X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Chris Brown From: Wes Subject: Re: Multiple PI addresses on an ethernet card. Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Chris, Check out the url at http://www.crosslogic.com/virtual_IP.html Best of luck. Wes At 12:56 PM 5/15/97 -0500, you wrote: > > I have been running Linux and will have to set up a FreeBSD box. >One of the things that will be necessary is to have alias PI >addresses on the ethernet card to run multiple domains for an apache >web server. In Linux the only thing that is necessary is to compile >the kernel with alias support then set up the addresses with >ifconfig during boot. Like so: > >ifconfig eth0 10.0.0.1 >ifconfig eth0:0 10.0.0.2 >ifconfig eth0:1 10.0.0.3 > >Then you add routes for the all the addresses on the card. I would >think that it would be basically the same on FreeBSD but I didn't see >it in the FreeBSD handbook or the FAQs but I may have missed it. Can >someone point me at some documentation and possibly give me the >abridged version of this? > > > From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 15 13:05:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA11518 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 13:05:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de (helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de [141.31.166.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA11505 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 13:05:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from helbig@localhost) by helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA20918; Thu, 15 May 1997 22:04:07 +0200 (MET DST) From: Wolfgang Helbig Message-Id: <199705152004.WAA20918@helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de> Subject: Re: info_request In-Reply-To: <3530747.16154402@hermes.ics.lu.se> from Tamas Kovacs at "May 15, 97 10:40:15 am" To: Tamas_Kovacs@hermes.ics.lu.se Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 22:04:07 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL30 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Hi Friends, > > I am trying to install FreeBSD onto an IBM ps/2 machine with a 486SLC2 > processor in it. Sorry, but as far as I know, the bus of your computer is IBM's microchannel and FreeBSD does support this architecture. Wolfgang From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 15 13:06:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA11579 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 13:06:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cs.nps.navy.mil (cs.nps.navy.mil [131.120.1.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA11572 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 13:06:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [131.120.145.177] by cs.nps.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA12205; Thu, 15 May 97 13:05:26 PDT Date: Thu, 15 May 97 13:05:26 PDT Message-Id: <9705152005.AA12205@cs.nps.navy.mil> X-Sender: jwhester@cs.nps.navy.mil X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Wes Subject: Secondary DNS Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Looking for someone to serve as a secondary DNS...I will trade and serve as your secondary DNS... Let me know if interested. Thanks Wes From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 15 13:18:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA12172 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 13:18:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from narcissus.ml.org (root@brosenga.Pitzer.edu [134.173.120.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA12163; Thu, 15 May 1997 13:18:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (fullermd@localhost) by narcissus.ml.org (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA10083; Thu, 15 May 1997 13:18:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 13:18:06 -0700 (PDT) From: The Devil Himself To: "Stephen A. Derdau" cc: Pat McPartland , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, FBSD questions Subject: Re: 2.1.5 or 2.2.1 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 15 May 1997, Stephen A. Derdau wrote: > Yes please let me know also....WE also are an ISP and are meeting > tonight to discuss an upgrade. Which version of FreeBSD do you need > to run front page extensions is all that I would add. > > Thank You > > > Stephen A. Derdau > XTDL inc > 603 4714700 "It's just a matter of perspective" The company I work for is running 2.1-STABLE systems, and we have frontpage extensions on. I don't think it matters what verison of FreeeBSD you're using acvtually; just what version of the web server (Apache, in our case) you are running. > > > On Thu, 15 May 1997, Pat McPartland wrote: > > > Hello, > > I am an ISP. I have to upgrade my webserver. Should I upgrade to 2.1.5 or > > 2.2.1? I have the CDs, but I'm not sure which would be better. I was > > thinking of upgrading to 2.2.1 since I have it, but I read a message in the > > archives discouraging 2.2.1? Any advice? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Pat > > > > Patrick McPartland > > mcp@blast.net Go with 2.2.1. There have been some problems with 2.2, which is why 2.2.1 came out, but anything before 2.1.6 had a fair-sized security hole, plus there are a lot of features in 2.2.1 that would be nice on a system that's going to take some load. Hope it helps!! *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* |FreeBSD is good. FreeBSD is our friend. UNIX is our god.| *Micro$oft is bad. Micro$oft causes problems.* |MicroBSD??? I DON'T THINK SO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!| |"I hate quotes in signature files" :-} MAtthew Fuller| *fullermd@narcissus.ml.org FreeBSD junkie* |http://keystone.westminster.edu/~fullermd Westminster College| *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 15 13:32:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA13092 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 13:32:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from user.xtdl.com (user.xtdl.com [206.25.228.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA13067; Thu, 15 May 1997 13:32:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from sderdau@localhost) by user.xtdl.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA07276; Thu, 15 May 1997 16:43:23 -0400 Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 16:43:23 -0400 (EDT) From: "Stephen A. Derdau" To: The Devil Himself cc: Pat McPartland , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, FBSD questions Subject: Re: 2.1.5 or 2.2.1 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Great We have 2.2.1. I'll have to check the version of appache though! Stephen A. Derdau XTDL inc 603 4714700 "It's just a matter of perspective" On Thu, 15 May 1997, The Devil Himself wrote: > On Thu, 15 May 1997, Stephen A. Derdau wrote: > > > Yes please let me know also....WE also are an ISP and are meeting > > tonight to discuss an upgrade. Which version of FreeBSD do you need > > to run front page extensions is all that I would add. > > > > Thank You > > > > > > Stephen A. Derdau > > XTDL inc > > 603 4714700 "It's just a matter of perspective" > The company I work for is running 2.1-STABLE systems, and we have > frontpage extensions on. I don't think it matters what verison of > FreeeBSD you're using acvtually; just what version of the web server > (Apache, in our case) you are running. > > > > > > > On Thu, 15 May 1997, Pat McPartland wrote: > > > > > Hello, > > > I am an ISP. I have to upgrade my webserver. Should I upgrade to 2.1.5 or > > > 2.2.1? I have the CDs, but I'm not sure which would be better. I was > > > thinking of upgrading to 2.2.1 since I have it, but I read a message in the > > > archives discouraging 2.2.1? Any advice? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Pat > > > > > > Patrick McPartland > > > mcp@blast.net > > Go with 2.2.1. > There have been some problems with 2.2, which is why 2.2.1 came out, but > anything before 2.1.6 had a fair-sized security hole, plus there are a lot > of features in 2.2.1 that would be nice on a system that's going to take > some load. > > Hope it helps!! > > *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* > |FreeBSD is good. FreeBSD is our friend. UNIX is our god.| > *Micro$oft is bad. Micro$oft causes problems.* > |MicroBSD??? I DON'T THINK SO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!| > |"I hate quotes in signature files" :-} MAtthew Fuller| > *fullermd@narcissus.ml.org FreeBSD junkie* > |http://keystone.westminster.edu/~fullermd Westminster College| > *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* > > > From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 15 13:37:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA13513 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 13:37:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zeus.gel.usherb.ca (zeus.gel.usherb.ca [132.210.70.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA13505 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 13:37:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pollux.gel.usherb.ca by zeus.gel.usherb.ca (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA03973; Thu, 15 May 97 16:37:11 EDT Received: by pollux.gel.usherb.ca (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA05622; Thu, 15 May 1997 16:37:10 -0400 Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 16:37:10 -0400 (EDT) From: "Alex.Boisvert" To: Edward Wolpert Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: java 1.1.1 on Freebsd 2.2, linux emulator problems? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I'm running 2.2 on my system, and installed the linux jdk 1.1.1 version. > It works fine under linux emulation, but the static-linked motif stuff doesn't > seem to work ok. Has anyone else got that running under our emulator? Thanks. I tried the Linux JDK 1.1.1 today and also had problems with everything related to AWT. (Modal dialog boxes, buttons, etc.) That's on FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE. Alex. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 15 13:47:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA13995 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 13:47:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pluto.plutotech.com (root@pluto100.plutotech.com [206.168.67.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA13990; Thu, 15 May 1997 13:47:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from narnia.plutotech.com (narnia.plutotech.com [206.168.67.130]) by pluto.plutotech.com (8.8.5/8.8.3) with ESMTP id OAA19579; Thu, 15 May 1997 14:47:24 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199705152047.OAA19579@pluto.plutotech.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0beta 12/23/96 To: The Devil Himself cc: "Stephen A. Derdau" , Pat McPartland , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, FBSD questions Subject: Re: 2.1.5 or 2.2.1 In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 15 May 1997 13:18:06 PDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 15:45:55 -0600 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Go with 2.2.1. Then upgrade to and track 2.2-stable. There were plenty of problems, particularly in the aic7xxx driver that where fixed after 2.2.1 that make 2.2-stable a better choice. -- Justin T. Gibbs =========================================== FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations =========================================== From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 15 13:51:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA14350 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 13:51:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from narcissus.ml.org (root@brosenga.Pitzer.edu [134.173.120.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA14344; Thu, 15 May 1997 13:51:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (fullermd@localhost) by narcissus.ml.org (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA10372; Thu, 15 May 1997 13:51:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 13:51:49 -0700 (PDT) From: The Devil Himself To: "Justin T. Gibbs" cc: "Stephen A. Derdau" , Pat McPartland , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, FBSD questions Subject: Re: 2.1.5 or 2.2.1 In-Reply-To: <199705152047.OAA19579@pluto.plutotech.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 15 May 1997, Justin T. Gibbs wrote: > >Go with 2.2.1. > > Then upgrade to and track 2.2-stable. There were plenty of problems, > particularly in the aic7xxx driver that where fixed after 2.2.1 that > make 2.2-stable a better choice. Definately. That was a typo, BTW; we're running 2.2-STABLE. And it's NICE... > > -- > Justin T. Gibbs > =========================================== > FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations > =========================================== *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* |FreeBSD is good. FreeBSD is our friend. UNIX is our god.| *Micro$oft is bad. Micro$oft causes problems.* |MicroBSD??? I DON'T THINK SO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!| |"I hate quotes in signature files" :-} MAtthew Fuller| *fullermd@narcissus.ml.org FreeBSD junkie* |http://keystone.westminster.edu/~fullermd Westminster College| *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 15 14:01:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA15008 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 14:01:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fireball.blast.net (root@fireball.blast.net [204.141.163.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA15003; Thu, 15 May 1997 14:01:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from flashpoint.blast.net (flashpoint.blast.net [204.141.163.62]) by fireball.blast.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA28553; Thu, 15 May 1997 17:00:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199705152100.RAA28553@fireball.blast.net> From: "Pat McPartland" To: , "FBSD questions" Subject: Re: 2.1.5 or 2.2.1 Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 16:56:31 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Is there any special procedure for upgrading to 2.2.1? Or- same upgrade mounting the partitions and re-configuring the /etc files? Thanks Pat mcp@blast.net ---------- From: The Devil Himself To: Justin T. Gibbs Cc: Stephen A. Derdau ; Pat McPartland ; freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG; FBSD questions Subject: Re: 2.1.5 or 2.2.1 Date: Thursday, May 15, 1997 4:51 PM On Thu, 15 May 1997, Justin T. Gibbs wrote: > >Go with 2.2.1. > > Then upgrade to and track 2.2-stable. There were plenty of problems, > particularly in the aic7xxx driver that where fixed after 2.2.1 that > make 2.2-stable a better choice. Definately. That was a typo, BTW; we're running 2.2-STABLE. And it's NICE... > > -- > Justin T. Gibbs > =========================================== > FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations > =========================================== *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* |FreeBSD is good. FreeBSD is our friend. UNIX is our god.| *Micro$oft is bad. Micro$oft causes problems.* |MicroBSD??? I DON'T THINK SO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!| |"I hate quotes in signature files" :-} MAtthew Fuller| *fullermd@narcissus.ml.org FreeBSD junkie* |http://keystone.westminster.edu/~fullermd Westminster College| *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 15 14:05:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA15314 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 14:05:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net (mailhost.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA15304 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 14:05:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wakkowar ([207.146.229.139]) by mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with SMTP id AAA16407 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 20:55:32 +0000 Message-ID: <337B6893.2711@worldnet.att.net> Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 15:48:35 -0400 From: Jason Reply-To: jlj.mitchell.max@worldnet.att.net Organization: AT&T Worldnet Services X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: How do I install a new Windows Manager (fvwm2) under XFree86/X11R6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I just got XFree86 running a couple of minutes ago(what fun) and I want to install a different windows manager like AfterStep or fvwm2 or another. How do I go about doing this in XFree86 or Regular UNIX. Jason From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 15 14:06:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA15420 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 14:06:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hell.org (d174.TeNeT.Odessa.UA [195.138.80.174]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA15413 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 14:06:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from pss@localhost) by hell.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA00221; Fri, 16 May 1997 00:04:08 +0300 (EEST) Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 00:04:08 +0300 (EEST) From: Sergey Pukach Message-Id: <199705152104.AAA00221@hell.org> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Can't su to root Cc: pss@hell.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi. When I try su to root system refuse my attempt with message: you are not in the correct group to su root. My group is wheel. Where is the problem ? Thanks. pss // Sergey Pukach // pss@te.net.ua From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 15 14:34:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA16839 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 14:34:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de (helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de [141.31.166.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA16833 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 14:34:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from helbig@localhost) by helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA00461; Thu, 15 May 1997 23:33:25 +0200 (MET DST) From: Wolfgang Helbig Message-Id: <199705152133.XAA00461@helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de> Subject: Re: Slow printer behavior In-Reply-To: <199705151924.PAA00231@localhost.nih.gov> from Chuck at "May 15, 97 03:24:20 pm" To: crtb@capecod.net (Chuck) Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 23:33:25 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL30 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Running FreeBSD 2.2.0-RELEASE. > Problem: Printer (a Canon BJ200 Bubble-Jet) runs at normal speed about > half the time, but often excruciatingly slowly. Sometimes it will print an > entire page, pausing about ten seconds between passes across the paper. > And other times it goes at normal speed. I use apsfilter and > ghostscript 3.51 for most printing. > > This behavior just began about a month ago. I think of a bad connection > somewhere, with an ACK signal failing or something like that. Or is it > possible that the printer port interrupt can get turned off, and the > /dev/lpt driver fails to restore it? > > Wonder if anyone else has seen this happen. I'd be grateful to find out! Nope, I'm using the same printer, apsfilter, ghostscript 2.6.2 and -current and never seen anything like that. Wolfgang From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 15 14:48:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA17841 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 14:48:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cs.nps.navy.mil (cs.nps.navy.mil [131.120.1.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA17832 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 14:48:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [131.120.145.177] by cs.nps.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA14180; Thu, 15 May 97 14:48:12 PDT Date: Thu, 15 May 97 14:48:12 PDT Message-Id: <9705152148.AA14180@cs.nps.navy.mil> X-Sender: jwhester@cs.nps.navy.mil X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Wes Subject: Virtual Hosting with Apache and FreeBSD Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Here is a web page we put up reference lessons learned with FreeBSD, Apache and virtual IP hosting. Also a step by step how to: http://www.crosslogic.com/virtual_IP.html Best wishes. Wes From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 15 14:55:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA18553 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 14:55:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from horton.iaces.com (root@horton.iaces.com [204.147.87.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA18543 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 14:55:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from proot@localhost) by horton.iaces.com (8.8.5/8.8.4) id QAA08063; Thu, 15 May 1997 16:54:49 -0500 (CDT) From: "Paul T. Root" Message-Id: <199705152154.QAA08063@horton.iaces.com> Subject: Re: Slow printer behavior To: helbig@MX.BA-Stuttgart.De (Wolfgang Helbig) Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 16:54:49 -0500 (CDT) Cc: crtb@capecod.net, questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199705152133.XAA00461@helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de> from Wolfgang Helbig at "May 15, 97 11:33:25 pm" X-Organization: !nterprise Networking Services - ACES X-Phone: (612) 663-1979 X-Fax: (612) 663-8030 X-Page: (800) SKY-PAGE PIN: 537-7270 X-Address: 200 S. 5th St., Suite 1100 X-Address: Minneapolis, MN 55402 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In a previous message, Wolfgang Helbig said: > > Running FreeBSD 2.2.0-RELEASE. > > Problem: Printer (a Canon BJ200 Bubble-Jet) runs at normal speed about > > half the time, but often excruciatingly slowly. Sometimes it will print an > > entire page, pausing about ten seconds between passes across the paper. > > And other times it goes at normal speed. I use apsfilter and > > ghostscript 3.51 for most printing. > > > > This behavior just began about a month ago. I think of a bad connection > > somewhere, with an ACK signal failing or something like that. Or is it > > possible that the printer port interrupt can get turned off, and the > > /dev/lpt driver fails to restore it? > > > > Wonder if anyone else has seen this happen. I'd be grateful to find out! > > Nope, I'm using the same printer, apsfilter, ghostscript 2.6.2 and -current > and never seen anything like that. You might try setting your lpt port to polling instead of interrupt, and see if that does anything. Polling should be more efficient that interrupts anyway. I have a BJC-4100 on mine. You can put it in your config with: device lpt0 at isa? port "IO_LPT1" tty Or set it via the command line with: lptcontrol -p -u 0 Paul. -- Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity. --Grant R. Gainey From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 15 15:01:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA19338 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 15:01:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de (helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de [141.31.166.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA19300 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 15:00:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from helbig@localhost) by helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA00538; Thu, 15 May 1997 23:59:13 +0200 (MET DST) From: Wolfgang Helbig Message-Id: <199705152159.XAA00538@helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de> Subject: Re: Can't su to root In-Reply-To: <199705152104.AAA00221@hell.org> from Sergey Pukach at "May 16, 97 00:04:08 am" To: pss@te.net.ua (Sergey Pukach) Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 23:59:13 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, pss@hell.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL30 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Hi. > > When I try su to root system refuse my attempt with message: > you are not in the correct group to su root. > My group is wheel. Where is the problem ? You'll have to enter your account in the group ``wheel'' by editing the the file /etc/group. > Thanks. You're welcome. > > pss > > // Sergey Pukach > // pss@te.net.ua > From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 15 15:07:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA19874 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 15:07:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (root@agora.rdrop.com [199.2.210.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA19859 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 15:07:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whistle.com (s205m131.whistle.com [207.76.205.131]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA20581 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 15:02:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by whistle.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id PAA11368 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 15:01:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bubba.whistle.com(207.76.205.7) by whistle.com via smap (V1.3) id sma011364; Thu May 15 15:01:41 1997 Received: (from archie@localhost) by bubba.whistle.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) id PAA00600 for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 15 May 1997 15:01:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Archie Cobbs Message-Id: <199705152201.PAA00600@bubba.whistle.com> Subject: good mail filter program? To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 15:01:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm looking for a good mail filter program, i.e., a program to put in my .forward file that will sort my incoming mail into various mailbox files automatically based on sender, etc. I've been using "filter", which used to be part of elm (but seems to be no more), but it mysteriously dies all the time, causing bounce messages. So I'm trying to upgrade. Any ideas appreciated. Thanks, -Archie ___________________________________________________________________________ Archie Cobbs * Whistle Communications, Inc. * http://www.whistle.com From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 15 15:10:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA20281 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 15:10:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de (helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de [141.31.166.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA20232 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 15:09:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from helbig@localhost) by helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA00559; Fri, 16 May 1997 00:09:13 +0200 (MET DST) From: Wolfgang Helbig Message-Id: <199705152209.AAA00559@helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de> Subject: Re: How do I install a new Windows Manager (fvwm2) under XFree86/X11R6 In-Reply-To: <337B6893.2711@worldnet.att.net> from Jason at "May 15, 97 03:48:35 pm" To: jlj.mitchell.max@worldnet.att.net Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 00:09:13 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL30 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I just got XFree86 running a couple of minutes ago(what fun) and I want > to install a different windows manager like AfterStep or fvwm2 or > another. How do I go about doing this in XFree86 or Regular UNIX. Assuming you are using FreeBSD 2.x: Install your favorite window manager from the packages and edit ~/.xinitrc to start it. Then enter ``startx'' on the command line and see what happens. Have fun Wolfgang From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 15 15:27:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA20995 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 15:27:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.abac.com (mail1.abac.com [206.170.126.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA20990 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 15:27:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ds9.abac.com ([206.171.121.64]) by mail1.abac.com (Netscape Mail Server v1.1) with SMTP id AAA237 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 15:13:55 -0700 Received: (qmail 2967 invoked by uid 501); 15 May 1997 22:13:47 -0000 Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 15:13:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Bryce Newall To: FreeBSD Questions List Subject: can't su to root Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I accidentally deleted the original message before I could reply to it. :( In response to the guy who couldn't su to root: You said your group was wheel. Is that set in the passwd file? If so, that's the problem. Your group should be whatever group was created for you when you ran adduser to create your account (should be the same as your user ID). E.g. mine is: data:*:500:500:Bryce Newall,,619-458-2678:/home/data:/bin/tcsh In /etc/group: data:*:500: Now, what you want to do is to add your login *name* to the end of the wheel group line in the group file, i.e., in my case: wheel:*:0:root,data Once you've done that, log out and back in, and you should be able to su to root. ********************************************************************** * Bryce Newall * IRC: Data * Email: data@dal.net * * WWW: http://voyager.abac.com/data * IRC Admin, voyager.dal.net * * --== Try DALnet! Server irc.dal.net, port 7000 ==-- * * "Stop smirking, Number 1." -- J.L. Picard * * "I'm a doctor, not a doorstop!" -- EMH Program, ST:FC * ********************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 15 15:57:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA22939 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 15:57:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mongoose.cs.unm.edu (mongoose-csroute.cs.unm.edu [198.83.91.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA22934 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 15:57:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from coral(really [198.59.151.28]) by mongoose.cs.unm.edu via smail with smtp id for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 16:57:37 -0600 (MDT) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built 1997-Mar-7) Message-ID: <337B94E0.41C67EA6@unm.edu> Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 16:57:36 -0600 From: Colin Eric Johnson X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; SunOS 4.1.4 sun4c) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: JDK-1.1.1 for FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm interested in doing some work in Java and I would like to be able to do at least some of it on my FreeBSD system. Where can I ask about plans or developments regarding JDK-1.1.1 for FreeBSD? So far what I have found is JDK-1.0.2. Thanks ---- In thousands of sparkling lights and electro-syntho-magnetic-musical sounds Colin E. Johnson | colinj@unm.edu | http://www.unm.edu/~colinj/ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 15 16:12:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA23831 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 16:12:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from milehigh.denver.net (jdc@milehigh.denver.net [204.144.180.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA23815 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 16:12:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jdc@localhost) by milehigh.denver.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA24197; Thu, 15 May 1997 17:30:01 -0600 (MDT) Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 17:30:01 -0600 (MDT) From: John-David Childs To: Sergey Pukach cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, pss@hell.org Subject: Re: Can't su to root In-Reply-To: <199705152104.AAA00221@hell.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 16 May 1997, Sergey Pukach wrote: > > Hi. > > When I try su to root system refuse my attempt with message: > you are not in the correct group to su root. > My group is wheel. Where is the problem ? > Thanks. > For some reason, if your PRIMARY group is wheel su will not work. Set your primary group to something like staff and add yourself to the wheel group in the /etc/group file. > pss > > // Sergey Pukach > // pss@te.net.ua > John-David Childs (JC612) http://www.denver.net System Administrator jdc@denver.net & Network Engineer Think, Listen, Look, then ACT! "A verbal contract isn't worth the paper it's written on" - Louis B Mayer From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 15 17:07:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA25979 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 17:07:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iceberg.anchorage.net. (root@iceberg.anchorage.net [207.14.72.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA25969 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 17:07:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aak.anchorage.net (ai-134 [207.14.72.134]) by iceberg.anchorage.net. (8.6.11/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA14682; Thu, 15 May 1997 15:04:10 -0800 Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 15:57:07 -0800 (AKDT) From: Steve Howe X-Sender: abc@aak.anchorage.net To: Archie Cobbs cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: good mail filter program? In-Reply-To: <199705152201.PAA00600@bubba.whistle.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 15 May 1997, Archie Cobbs wrote: procmail. > > I'm looking for a good mail filter program, i.e., a program to put in > my .forward file that will sort my incoming mail into various mailbox > files automatically based on sender, etc. > > I've been using "filter", which used to be part of elm (but seems to > be no more), but it mysteriously dies all the time, causing bounce > messages. So I'm trying to upgrade. > > Any ideas appreciated. > > Thanks, > -Archie > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > Archie Cobbs * Whistle Communications, Inc. * http://www.whistle.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sleep: a sign a caffeine deprivation ... http://www.anchorage.net/~un_x ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 15 17:39:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA27268 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 17:39:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from panda.hilink.com.au (panda.hilink.com.au [203.2.144.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA27240; Thu, 15 May 1997 17:39:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from danny@localhost) by panda.hilink.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA20164; Fri, 16 May 1997 10:50:43 +1000 (EST) Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 10:50:42 +1000 (EST) From: "Daniel O'Callaghan" To: Pat McPartland cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, FBSD questions Subject: Re: 2.1.5 or 2.2.1 In-Reply-To: <199705151912.PAA22844@fireball.blast.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 15 May 1997, Pat McPartland wrote: > I am an ISP. I have to upgrade my webserver. Should I upgrade to 2.1.5 or > 2.2.1? I have the CDs, but I'm not sure which would be better. I was > thinking of upgrading to 2.2.1 since I have it, but I read a message in the > archives discouraging 2.2.1? Any advice? Don't use 2.1.5 - it has significant security holes. Use 2.1.7.1, or 2.2.1. If you can ftp 90 MB, grab the latest 2.2 from ftp://releng22.freebsd.org/pub/ Danny From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 15 18:29:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA29552 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 18:29:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.virginia.edu (mail.Virginia.EDU [128.143.2.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA29544 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 18:29:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from archive.cs.virginia.edu by mail.virginia.edu id aa17657; 15 May 97 21:29 EDT Received: from stretch.cs.Virginia.edu (atf3r@stretch-fo.cs.Virginia.EDU [128.143.136.14]) by archive.cs.Virginia.EDU (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA07178; Thu, 15 May 1997 21:29:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: by stretch.cs.Virginia.edu (4.1/SMI-2.0) id AA08610; Thu, 15 May 97 21:28:59 EDT Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 21:28:59 -0400 (EDT) From: "Adrian T. Filipi-Martin" Reply-To: adrian@virginia.edu To: Chuck Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pppd fails to clear routing table In-Reply-To: <199705151931.PAA00241@localhost.nih.gov> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 15 May 1997, Chuck wrote: > Sometimes, perhaps half the time, when my line drops (almost always by > the ISP because of a timeout), pppd fails to clear the routes. I tried > to add scripting in /etc/ppp/ip-down to clear the routes, and always > get permission denied; "you must be root to fiddle with route". Now, > man pppd says that ip-down is exec'ed by pppd upon disconnection, as > root. Well, the route command feels differently! > > So there are two issues: > 1. Why is the route table sometimes not cleared? The IP address for the > ppp link will remain sometimes after the line has gone. > > 2. Why does route(8) deny ip-down permission to alter routes? > > Chuck Bacon -- crtb@capecod.net I too have seen this. I do not have an answer, but I would like to amplify this problem report. Aside from the routing, I also find stale ARP entries in the kernel. ip-down cannot remove these for some reason, probablt the same as above. I am forced to go i ans the a 'arp -d' to clear the entry. BTW, I am talkng about on the server side, not the dail-up client. Adrian -- adrian@virginia.edu ---->>>>| Support your local programmer, System Administrator --->>>| STOP Software Patent Abuses NOW! Neurosurgical Visualzation Lab -->>| For an application and information Member: League for Programming Freedom ->| see: http://www.lpf.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 15 18:33:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA29771 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 18:33:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mole.mole.org (marmot.mole.org [204.216.57.191]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA29766 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 18:33:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mole.mole.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) id BAA05295; Fri, 16 May 1997 01:33:32 GMT Received: from meerkat.mole.org(206.197.192.110) by mole.mole.org via smap (V1.3) id sma005292; Fri May 16 01:33:30 1997 Received: (from mrm@localhost) by meerkat.mole.org (8.6.11/8.6.9) id SAA21396; Thu, 15 May 1997 18:33:21 -0700 Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 18:33:21 -0700 From: "M.R.Murphy" Message-Id: <199705160133.SAA21396@meerkat.mole.org> To: proot@horton.iaces.com Subject: Re: Slow printer behavior Cc: questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > You might try setting your lpt port to polling instead of interrupt, and see > if that does anything. Polling should be more efficient that interrupts > anyway. I have a BJC-4100 on mine. It's a sad commentary when polling is more efficient than interrupts. ;-( I suggest investigating how the lp driver behaves with MAX_SPIN increased from 20 to perhaps 100-2000. It might be nice if MAX_SPIN were called MAX_SPIN_LP and protected with a #ifndef MAX_SPIN_LP so that it would be easy to change from a kernel config file. Maybe :-) -- Mike Murphy mrm@Mole.ORG +1 619 598 5874 Better is the enemy of Good From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 15 19:43:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA02665 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 19:43:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from train.tgci.com ([205.185.169.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA02652 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 19:43:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from emilyd ([206.250.85.68]) by train.tgci.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id UAA16532 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 20:11:13 -0700 Message-Id: <199705160311.UAA16532@train.tgci.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Riley J. McIntire" To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 19:42:26 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Can't boot from 2nd drive Reply-to: chaos@tgci.com Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.42a) Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > >>> "Riley J. McIntire" 05/14/97 > > 07:38am >>> > > I've seen similar stuff here, but not quite the problem > > I'm having. > > Nothing in a (quick) search of the archives, either. > > > > I'm currently running 2.1.7-R on an IDE drive (1.2 GB > > Maxtor). Has a > > 50MB DOS partition, the rest fbsd. > > > > The second drive, which will (hopefully) soon replace > > the above, is a > > Seagate ST51080N 1GB scsi riding a 2940W. > > > > The scsi has a 50 MB DOS partition, and I did an ftp > > install of > > 2.2.1-R on the remainder. And I can't boot from it. > > Usually. > > Installed booteasy, comes up F1 dos, F2 FBSD, F5 Second > > Disk. If I > > press F5 it then shows F? and nothing works. > > > > If I disable (bios) the ide drive, it boots F1 F2, but > > again gives F? > > when pressed. > > > > With both drives enabled and pressing F2 for the IDE > > drive, if at the > > boot prompt I type in sd(0,a)/kernel which should be > > the scsi 2.2.1, > > it boots 2.1.7. > > Ok, a more thorough check revels the faq sez that the boot manager's "F?" prompt indicates a drive geometry problem. As I said, using a boot floppy allows me to run 2.2.1 from the second drive. I'm not clear on this: Can I run the system from a drive who's geometry prevents booting from it? Maybe so--one time I saw a translation problem ran into it was with NT using a few 2 GB scsis, but it would boot. Just gave an annoying error. Oh well. And this is a 1 GB drive. I've never seen a geometry problem with this size of drive, but ok, I'll set drive translation to on and see what happens. I haven't had time yet to reinstall and play around with it. It is a live server for one, and the ftp speed from wc is lousy. So are the North American mirrors. However, there are others... Well, I guess I'll try another install, but will be checking the list for any (hint hint!) pointers. Thanks again, Riley > > (Don't know if it means anything, but the root of the > > second disk did > > not have a "kernal", just kernel.GENERIC, which I > > copied. ) > > > > I *can* boot 2.2.1 if I disable the IDE and use the > > boot floppy. > > I've played around in sysinstall's disk labeller to > > make the drive > > bootable, doesn't help. > > > > One more thing, the bootinst table for booteasy shows > > neither the > > DOS or fbsd partitions as bootable on the scsi disk. > > > > Any help or pointers would be greatly appreciated. > > > > tia, > > > > Riley > > > > > > > From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 15 19:51:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA02958 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 19:51:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from silly.com (root@silly.com [204.141.33.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA02953 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 19:51:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from v-vega (vvega@silly.com [204.141.33.2]) by silly.com (8.8.3/Your Momma) with ESMTP id WAA06555 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 22:51:25 -0400 Message-Id: <199705160251.WAA06555@silly.com> From: "Vincent Vega" To: Subject: PPPD Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 22:29:21 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Everytime I attempt to run PPPD after dialing in with minicom ....i get... > Apr 21 13:56:30 vvega pppd[230]: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests > Apr 21 13:56:30 vvega pppd[230]: Connection terminated. ANyoen have an idea on how i could fix this problem ? Thanx From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 15 19:59:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA03283 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 19:59:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from super-g.inch.com (super-g.com [204.178.32.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA03266; Thu, 15 May 1997 19:59:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (spork@localhost) by super-g.inch.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA18008; Thu, 15 May 1997 23:09:51 GMT Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 23:09:51 +0000 (GMT) From: spork X-Sender: spork@super-g.inch.com To: William Bulley cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, jjudge@usr.com, support@usr.com Subject: Re: radius, usr total control and freebsd In-Reply-To: <199705151819.OAA18143@ohm.merit.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk If anyone has info on Radius and USR Total Control, I'd love to hear from them as well... We just bought a whole bunch of these, and I hate the thought of buying a Sparc or NT (yechhhh) machine to run the USR modded Radius. Of course, for $5000-ish, they'll compile me a FBSD version, the salesperson says. Pretty dumb marketing if you ask me; what do they have to lose by following the lead of Ascend, Livingston, and Xylogics in giving out source code to something that only works with a product you've already bought from them... Charles On Thu, 15 May 1997, William Bulley wrote: > According to Steve: > > > > Anyone successfully using merit radius from the ports collection on > > freebsd with the usr total control network hub? > > > > Im having some trouble and could use some help. > > Last time I checked the ports collection contained a very old version > of the Merit server. I have built our server on 2.1.5 without problem. > > Regards, > > web... > > -- > William Bulley, N8NXN Senior Systems Research Programmer > Merit Network, Inc. Email: web@merit.edu > 4251 Plymouth Road, Suite C Phone: (313) 764-9993 > Ann Arbor, Michigan 48105-2785 Fax: (313) 647-3185 > > [ What's all the fuss over the end of the century with mission critial ] > [ programs failing due to dates? If people simply started using Roman ] > [ Numerials the problem vanishes! MCM = 1900 MCMXCIX = 1999 MM = 2000 ] > From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 15 20:09:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA03852 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 20:09:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.gte.net (smtp.gte.net [207.115.153.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA03835 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 20:09:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pb486 (1Cust27.Max6.Los-Angeles.CA.MS.UU.NET [153.34.73.27]) by smtp.gte.net (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) with SMTP id WAA20727 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 22:08:29 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <337BD037.3539@gte.net> Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 20:10:47 -0700 From: Parker Brown X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: support@freebsd.org Subject: Please Help With Wierd ftp Problem, pls SEE ATTACHED Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Return-Path: <> Received: from sm3.gte.net ([207.115.153.24]) by sm2.gte.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release "2" ID# 0-32582L10S150000) with ESMTP id AAA15978 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 19:42:43 -0500 Received: from smtp.gte.net ([207.115.153.29]) by sm3.gte.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release "2" ID# 0-32582L10S150000) with ESMTP id AAA16152 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 19:42:43 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost) by smtp.gte.net (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) with internal id TAA14200; Sat, 10 May 1997 19:42:43 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 19:42:43 -0500 (CDT) From: Mail Delivery Subsystem Message-Id: <199705110042.TAA14200@smtp.gte.net> To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status; boundary="TAA14200.863311363/smtp.gte.net" Subject: Returned mail: User unknown Auto-Submitted: auto-generated (failure) This is a MIME-encapsulated message --TAA14200.863311363/smtp.gte.net The original message was received at Sat, 10 May 1997 19:42:10 -0500 (CDT) from 1Cust49.Max56.Los-Angeles.CA.MS.UU.NET [153.34.98.49] ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- ----- Transcript of session follows ----- ... while talking to hub.freebsd.org.: >>> RCPT To: <<< 550 ... User unknown 550 ... User unknown --TAA14200.863311363/smtp.gte.net Content-Type: message/delivery-status Reporting-MTA: dns; smtp.gte.net Received-From-MTA: DNS; 1Cust49.Max56.Los-Angeles.CA.MS.UU.NET Arrival-Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 19:42:10 -0500 (CDT) Final-Recipient: RFC822; questions-support@freebsd.org Action: failed Status: 5.1.1 Remote-MTA: DNS; hub.freebsd.org Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 550 ... User unknown Last-Attempt-Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 19:42:43 -0500 (CDT) --TAA14200.863311363/smtp.gte.net Content-Type: message/rfc822 Return-Path: Received: from pb486 (1Cust49.Max56.Los-Angeles.CA.MS.UU.NET [153.34.98.49]) by smtp.gte.net (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) with SMTP id TAA14192 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 19:42:10 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <33751647.3828@gte.net> Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 17:43:51 -0700 From: Parker Brown X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions-support@freebsd.org Subject: A Peculiar Problem Using FTP on 2.2.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Have not encountered this problem with released 2.0.5, 2.1.0, 2.1.5, or 2.1.6 Trying to download Netscape Navigator from ftp.netscape.com (successsful before installing 2.2.0). I can open ftp.netscape.com and login as anonymous, and then use the ls and cd commands to access pub/navigator/3.01 and even ls to see that there is a unix directory. But when I cd to unix my session just locks up. No problem with my previous resease (2.1.6). I've searched handbook and faq with no help. also checked man to see if I overlooked a parameter. Using Windows 95 and NT versions of ftp allowed me to access that unix directory, just like FreeBSD 2.1.6 did. I've gotten some pretty sarcastic answers from you guys in the past, so I've really tried to solve it myself, but I'm stumped. PLEASE HELP. Thanks. --TAA14200.863311363/smtp.gte.net-- From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 15 20:20:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA04241 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 20:20:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from proxy4.ba.best.com (root@proxy4.ba.best.com [206.184.139.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA04236 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 20:20:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bsampley.vip.best.com (bsampley.vip.best.com [206.184.160.196]) by proxy4.ba.best.com (8.8.5/8.8.3) with SMTP id UAA23219 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 20:19:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 20:17:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Burton Sampley To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: warning: locale not supported Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greetings, I've been getting a strange message on the console: warning: locale not supported by C library, locale unchanged I noticed this not too long after I installed Star Office from the ports collection. I also notice when I use Star Writer, the clock on the bottom of the screen displays a different time then the current clock (if I open an xterm window and use 'date' the correct time and day are displayed). This makes me believe that Star Office is the culprit, but I'm at a loss as to where to begin looking for the correct file to modify. This message will also pop up in an xterm windows when I start either emacs or xemacs. Has anybody else experienced this, if so how did you correct it? Any ideas? Thanks in advance, Burton Sampley --- Brought to you by a 100% Micro$oft free system. You too can disinfect your system at http://www.freebsd.org E-Mail: burton@bsampley.vip.best.com Alternate E-Mail: bsampley@haywire.csuhayward.edu Home Page: http://www.best.com/~bsampley (permanently under construction) From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 15 20:30:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA04627 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 20:30:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zeus.xtalwind.net (slipper34b.xtalwind.net [205.160.242.118]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA04622; Thu, 15 May 1997 20:30:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (zeus.xtalwind.net [127.0.0.1]) by zeus.xtalwind.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA00606; Thu, 15 May 1997 23:29:56 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 23:29:56 -0400 (EDT) From: jack X-Sender: jack@zeus.xtalwind.net To: The Devil Himself cc: "Stephen A. Derdau" , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, FBSD questions Subject: Re: 2.1.5 or 2.2.1 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 15 May 1997, The Devil Himself wrote: > On Thu, 15 May 1997, Stephen A. Derdau wrote: > > > Yes please let me know also....WE also are an ISP and are meeting > > tonight to discuss an upgrade. Which version of FreeBSD do you need > > to run front page extensions is all that I would add. > > > > Thank You > > > > > > Stephen A. Derdau > > XTDL inc > > 603 4714700 "It's just a matter of perspective" > The company I work for is running 2.1-STABLE systems, and we have > frontpage extensions on. I don't think it matters what verison of > FreeeBSD you're using acvtually; just what version of the web server > (Apache, in our case) you are running. I'll second that, we've got it running on 3.0-something-SNAP with Apache 1.2b10. Not a "production" server but our play machine/domain. :) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jack O'Neill Finger jacko@diamond.xtalwind.net or jack@xtalwind.net http://www.xtalwind.net/~jacko/pubpgp.html #include for my PGP key. PGP Key fingerprint = F6 C4 E6 D4 2F 15 A7 67 FD 09 E9 3C 5F CC EB CD -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 15 20:37:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA04971 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 20:37:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from narcissus.ml.org (root@brosenga.Pitzer.edu [134.173.120.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA04966 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 20:37:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (fullermd@localhost) by narcissus.ml.org (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA13149; Thu, 15 May 1997 20:37:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 20:37:41 -0700 (PDT) From: The Devil Himself To: Burton Sampley cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: warning: locale not supported In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 15 May 1997, Burton Sampley wrote: > Greetings, > > I've been getting a strange message on the console: > > warning: locale not supported by C library, locale unchanged I get it on a BSDi system when I run Netscape. Never had any problem with it, so I ignore it. emacs too; under X, but not xemacs. [snip] > > Thanks in advance, > > Burton Sampley > > --- > Brought to you by a 100% Micro$oft free system. You too can disinfect your > system at http://www.freebsd.org > > E-Mail: burton@bsampley.vip.best.com > Alternate E-Mail: bsampley@haywire.csuhayward.edu > Home Page: http://www.best.com/~bsampley (permanently under construction) *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* |FreeBSD is good. FreeBSD is our friend. UNIX is our god.| *Micro$oft is bad. Micro$oft causes problems.* |MicroBSD??? I DON'T THINK SO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!| |"I hate quotes in signature files" :-} MAtthew Fuller| *fullermd@narcissus.ml.org FreeBSD junkie* |http://keystone.westminster.edu/~fullermd Westminster College| *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 15 21:30:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA06995 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 21:30:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from proxy3.ba.best.com (root@proxy3.ba.best.com [206.184.139.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA06988 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 21:30:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bsampley.vip.best.com (bsampley.vip.best.com [206.184.160.196]) by proxy3.ba.best.com (8.8.5/8.8.3) with SMTP id VAA20183; Thu, 15 May 1997 21:29:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 21:27:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Burton Sampley To: The Devil Himself cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: warning: locale not supported In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Oops, my mistake. Xemacs does NOT give the following error. I don'y remember ever having this error before installing Star Office. So far this is the only bad thing I have seen w/ Star Office :-) (otherwise it's a great GUI thingy for us x-M$ users!) On Thu, 15 May 1997, The Devil Himself wrote: > On Thu, 15 May 1997, Burton Sampley wrote: > > > Greetings, > > > > I've been getting a strange message on the console: > > > > warning: locale not supported by C library, locale unchanged > > I get it on a BSDi system when I run Netscape. > Never had any problem with it, so I ignore it. > emacs too; under X, but not xemacs. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 15 21:43:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA07733 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 21:43:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from soback.kornet.nm.kr (soback.kornet.nm.kr [168.126.3.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA07674 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 21:42:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bskim (taegu-c2511-2-po3.kornet.nm.kr [203.251.81.63]) by soback.kornet.nm.kr (8.6.12h2/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA23530 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 13:41:07 +0900 Message-ID: <337BE5A0.36CA@soback.kornet.nm.kr> Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 13:42:08 +0900 From: "Byung-Soon Kim(Charlie Kim)" Reply-To: charlie1@soback.kornet.nm.kr Organization: Taegu Technical College X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: How can I make a boot floppy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk hello I installed bsd on disk partition D in PC. I want to boot by floopy instead of disk. While I was installing bsd, I didn't see a messge that makes booting floppy. I want to know how to make a boot floopy . From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 15 22:03:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA08418 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 22:03:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ces04.cessys.com ([207.91.147.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA08411 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 22:03:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ces04.cessys.com by ces04.cessys.com (NTMail 3.02.10) with ESMTP id ja006145 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 00:06:22 -0500 Received: by ras02.cessys.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BC618C.DEE50D00@ras02.cessys.com>; Fri, 16 May 1997 00:05:32 -0500 Message-ID: <01BC618C.DEE50D00@ras02.cessys.com> From: "James F. Schmidt" To: "'John-David Childs'" , Sergey Pukach Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" , "pss@hell.org" Subject: RE: Can't su to root Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 00:04:58 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Info: CES Systems Internet Services Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Rather than edit /etc/group, login as root and enter the following: #addgroup wheel It worked for me without problem. I can su to root over any connection. Jim -----Original Message----- From: John-David Childs [SMTP:jdc@denver.net] Sent: Thursday, May 15, 1997 6:30 PM To: Sergey Pukach Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; pss@hell.org Subject: Re: Can't su to root On Fri, 16 May 1997, Sergey Pukach wrote: > > Hi. > > When I try su to root system refuse my attempt with message: > you are not in the correct group to su root. > My group is wheel. Where is the problem ? > Thanks. > For some reason, if your PRIMARY group is wheel su will not work. Set your primary group to something like staff and add yourself to the wheel group in the /etc/group file. > pss > > // Sergey Pukach > // pss@te.net.ua > John-David Childs (JC612) http://www.denver.net System Administrator jdc@denver.net & Network Engineer Think, Listen, Look, then ACT! "A verbal contract isn't worth the paper it's written on" - Louis B Mayer From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 15 22:20:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA09106 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 22:20:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from federation.addy.com (federation.addy.com [207.239.68.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA09100 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 22:20:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freyes.dh.i-2000.com (slip166-72-4-95.il.us.ibm.net [166.72.4.95]) by federation.addy.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id BAA19267 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 01:20:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199705160520.BAA19267@federation.addy.com> From: "Francisco Reyes" To: "FreeBSD questions" Date: Fri, 16 May 97 01:18:07 -0400 Reply-To: "Francisco Reyes" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.91 For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Dropped questions from digest? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have noticed that in a couple of times the number of subjects doesnt match the number of messages in my FreeBSD Questions Digest. Has anyone else had this problem? From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 15 22:22:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA09248 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 22:22:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from federation.addy.com (federation.addy.com [207.239.68.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA09243 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 22:22:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freyes.dh.i-2000.com (slip166-72-4-95.il.us.ibm.net [166.72.4.95]) by federation.addy.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id BAA19343 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 01:22:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199705160522.BAA19343@federation.addy.com> From: "Francisco Reyes" To: "FreeBSD questions" Date: Fri, 16 May 97 01:19:53 -0400 Reply-To: "Francisco Reyes" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.91 For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Which newsreader to use? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Could someone tell me the name of an easy to install/use newsreader to use with FreeBSD. I will figure out the installation/use I just need the name of one that works with authenticating news servers. Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 15 23:15:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA10814 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 23:15:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from moon.aa.net (moon.aa.net [204.157.220.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA10806 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 23:14:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from big.aa.net (big.aa.net [204.157.220.2]) by moon.aa.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA09546; Thu, 15 May 1997 23:14:55 -0700 X-Intended-For: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from miles.aa.net (cust79.max5.seattle.aa.net [206.125.79.79]) by big.aa.net (8.8.5/8.7.5) with ESMTP id XAA29743; Thu, 15 May 1997 23:14:53 -0700 Received: from miles.aa.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by miles.aa.net (8.8.5/8.8.3) with ESMTP id XAA18167; Thu, 15 May 1997 23:15:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705160615.XAA18167@miles.aa.net> To: The Devil Himself cc: Burton Sampley , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: warning: locale not supported In-reply-to: Message from The Devil Himself of "Thu, 15 May 1997 20:37:41 PDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 23:15:00 -0700 From: "Reginald S. Perry" Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Mr. Devil" == The Devil Himself writes: Mr. Devil> On Thu, 15 May 1997, Burton Sampley wrote: >> Greetings, >> >> I've been getting a strange message on the console: >> >> warning: locale not supported by C library, locale unchanged Mr. Devil> I get it on a BSDi system when I run Netscape. Never Mr. Devil> had any problem with it, so I ignore it. emacs too; Mr. Devil> under X, but not xemacs. Now I have a question related to this. I installed 2.2.1 a couple of weeks ago and while surfing my directory tree noticed /usr/share/nls which has all sorts of interesting looking stuff in it. Now is this nls dir related to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/nls which I had to create for X11R5 compatibility? If so how can I get all of my apps to look there instead? Does it need an nls.dir? How would I set this up? Is this somewhere in the handbook? Maybe we need AltaVista on the doc trees. :-) -Reggie From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 16 00:27:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA13884 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 00:27:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from legaspi.globalink.net.ph (root@legaspi.globalink.net.ph [206.161.36.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA13699 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 00:21:05 -0700 (PDT) From: dextran@legaspi.globalink.net.ph Received: from rrl.sti.edu (ppp-07.globalink.net.ph [206.161.36.170]) by legaspi.globalink.net.ph (8.8.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id PAA06827 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 15:25:17 +0800 Message-ID: <337CDFA0.7E3@globalink.net.ph> Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 15:28:48 -0700 Reply-To: dextran@legaspi.globalink.net.ph X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I; 16bit) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Internet Server Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I've installed FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE and is now functioning. I've also followed the instructions on Mini-DNS, my question is, is my FreeBSD visible on the internet? or can other access my server on the internet? From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 16 00:33:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA14161 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 00:33:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from saturn.isc-inf.com (root@saturn.isc-inf.com [194.163.9.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA14156 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 00:33:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [194.163.9.15] ([194.163.9.15]) by saturn.isc-inf.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA02082 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 09:33:26 +0200 Received: by [194.163.9.15](Lotus SMTP MTA v1.05 (274.9 11-27-1996)) id 00256499.0034819D ; Fri, 16 May 1997 09:33:30 +0000 X-Lotus-FromDomain: ISC GMBH From: "Ralph Seichter" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <00256499.003451A1.00@[194.163.9.15]> Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 09:33:22 +0000 Subject: FreeBSD 2.2.1 support for Linux binaries - how to? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk After using NetBSD for quite a while, I've now freshly set up FreeBSD 2.2.1. One of the reasons for migrating to FreeBSD was the support for Linux binaries, but now I'm having trouble using this feature. When the X11 and fvwm2 setup looked ok to me, I installed the 'doom' package off the distribution CDROM, which added some Linux libs. I then added an ldconfig entry for the directory /compat/linux/lib, but doom won't run. Executing doom.sh from an xterm (with bash) results only in what looks like a dump of parts of 'xdoom' being printed to the xterm window. Did I forget something vital for FreeBSD's Linux support? Could my self-compiled kernel be misconfigured? Your help is appreciated. If there's a FAQ I missed, please tell me so. -Ralph- From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 16 00:38:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA14426 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 00:38:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.barcode.co.il (gatekeeper.barcode.co.il [192.116.93.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA14421 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 00:38:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nadav@localhost) by gatekeeper.barcode.co.il (8.8.5/8.6.12) id KAA02196; Fri, 16 May 1997 10:37:53 +0300 (IDT) Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 10:37:53 +0300 (IDT) From: Nadav Eiron To: Antonello Biancalana cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Info about installation In-Reply-To: <337B5FB9.28DC6AB@tecnonet.it> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 15 May 1997, Antonello Biancalana wrote: > I am interested in installing FreeBSD in my system and I should like to > know whether ATAPI CD-Roms are supported as installation media. I read > somewhere that FreeBSD require a SCSI CDRom in order to get it > installed. > > Can I buy the CDRom version of FreeBSD and install it by means of my > Piooneer ATAPI CD-Rom? Maybe. Some CDROMs are supported and some not. You have a very high chance of a SCSI CD working, and a *slightly* lower chance with an ATAPI CD. You can check it out though. Download the boot floppy for the release you want, and try booting while a CD (any CD) is in the drive. Watch the probe messages during the boot sequence (you can use ScrollLock to scroll back the messages). If you see a device called wcd0 recognized (it'll probably tell you it has a disk inside, etc.), then it works. You should try with the CD connected either as the slave device on the primary IDE channel or as the master device on the secondary IDE channel. > > With my very best regards. > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > | Antonello Biancalana | e-mail: promind@tecnonet.it | > | ProMIND software development | Powered by LinuX | > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Nadav From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 16 01:22:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA16414 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 01:22:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from deimos (deimos.sovam.com [194.67.1.156]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA16408 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 01:22:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from NO-IDENT-SERVICE@ts1-a19.dial.sovam.com (port 1036 [194.67.14.51]) by deimos.sovam.com with SMTP id <227772-2087>; Fri, 16 May 1997 12:22:19 +0400 From: "Serguei Poloupanov" To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" Date: Fri, 16 May 97 12:22:12 +0300 Reply-To: "Serguei Poloupanov" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: polousrv's Registered PMMail 1.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; CHARSET=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19970516082219Z227772-2087+378@deimos.sovam.com> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I need FreeBSD kernel support for HP J2585b 10/100VG PCI Ethernet card! Help! From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 16 02:31:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA18823 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 02:31:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from siili.inet.fi (siili.inet.fi [192.89.123.191]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA18818 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 02:31:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jau.tmt.tele.fi (jau.tmt.tele.fi [194.251.252.34]) by siili.inet.fi (8.8.3/8.8.0) with ESMTP id MAA30476 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 12:29:43 +0300 Received: (from jau@localhost) by jau.tmt.tele.fi (8.8.5/8.8.5/JAU-2.2) id MAA00569 for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 16 May 1997 12:31:43 +0300 (EET DST) From: "Jukka A. Ukkonen" Message-Id: <199705160931.MAA00569@jau.tmt.tele.fi> Subject: Weird KDENABIO behaviour in 2.2.1 To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 12:31:43 +0300 (EET DST) Latin-Date: Vineri XVI Mai a.d. MCMXCVII Organization: Internet Services R&D / Telecom Finland Phone: +358-2040-4025 (office) / +358-400-606671 (mobile) Content-Conversion: prohibited X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25+pgp] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi everybody! Has anyone noticed that you cannot start X server in 2.2.1 once you have switched the system security level to 1? This is due to the ioctl KDENABIO now returning the error "Operation not permitted" (in xf86OpenConsole) when the security level is above zero. This may have been a well intended but not very good change, because now the X server cannot be started after the boot time, and if one has to start it later for some reason, one has to reboot the whole system to get the security level down to 0 for a while. I would prefer a less restrictive approach to the security by enabling KDENABIO only for root at any time when security level is less than 2. Cheers, // jau ------ / Jukka A. Ukkonen, Internet Services R&D / Telecom Finland Ltd. /__ M.Sc. (sw-eng & cs) (Phone) +358-2040-4025 / Internet: Jukka.Ukkonen@tele.fi (Fax) +358-2040-64724 / Internet: jau@iki.fi (Mobile) +358-400-606671 v Internet: ukkonen@nic.funet.fi (Home&Fax) +358-9-6215280 From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 16 02:34:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA18957 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 02:34:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from arka.mtl.pl (root@arka.mtl.pl [195.116.4.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA18936; Fri, 16 May 1997 02:34:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from arka.mtl.pl (rh@arka.mtl.pl [195.116.4.4]) by arka.mtl.pl (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA28597; Fri, 16 May 1997 11:26:25 GMT Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 11:26:24 +0000 () From: Robert Heron To: spork cc: William Bulley , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, jjudge@usr.com, support@usr.com Subject: Re: radius, usr total control and freebsd In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 15 May 1997, spork wrote: > If anyone has info on Radius and USR Total Control, I'd love to hear from > them as well... We just bought a whole bunch of these, and I hate the > thought of buying a Sparc or NT (yechhhh) machine to run the USR modded > Radius. I have exactly the same problem. We've bought USR Total Control Hub and would like to manage user's accounts via radius. I've heard from the compay that had installed our TCH that the only radius server working with USR TCH is the one from USR. They tried some radius server under Linux, but it didn't work properly. It really would be very nice to have radius under FreeBSD for USR TCH and other UNIX systems. Robert From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 16 02:55:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA19900 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 02:55:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from d2si.com (macbeth.d2si.com [206.8.31.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA19895 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 02:55:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from alec@localhost) by d2si.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA11645; Fri, 16 May 1997 04:55:05 -0500 (CDT) From: Alec Kloss Message-Id: <199705160955.EAA11645@d2si.com> Subject: Re: Internet Server In-Reply-To: <337CDFA0.7E3@globalink.net.ph> from "dextran@legaspi.globalink.net.ph" at "May 16, 97 03:28:48 pm" To: dextran@legaspi.globalink.net.ph Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 04:55:05 -0500 (CDT) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk dextran@legaspi.globalink.net.ph is responsible for: > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 16 02:43:37 1997 > From: dextran@legaspi.globalink.net.ph > Message-ID: <337CDFA0.7E3@globalink.net.ph> > Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 15:28:48 -0700 > Reply-To: dextran@legaspi.globalink.net.ph > X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I; 16bit) > To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Internet Server > Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Precedence: bulk > I've installed FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE and is now functioning. I've also > followed the instructions on Mini-DNS, my question is, is my FreeBSD > visible on the internet? or can other access my server on the internet? > Tell us what the hostname is and someone on the list will check. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 16 03:45:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA21509 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 03:45:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from legaspi.globalink.net.ph (root@legaspi.globalink.net.ph [206.161.36.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA21504 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 03:45:38 -0700 (PDT) From: dextran@legaspi.globalink.net.ph Received: from rrl.sti.edu (ppp-06.globalink.net.ph [206.161.36.169]) by legaspi.globalink.net.ph (8.8.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id SAA07367 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 18:48:56 +0800 Message-ID: <337D0F55.7F48@globalink.net.ph> Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 18:52:21 -0700 Reply-To: dextran@legaspi.globalink.net.ph X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I; 16bit) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Internet Server Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I've installed FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE and is now functioning. I've also followed the instructions on Mini-DNS, my question is, is my FreeBSD visible on the internet? or can other access my server on the internet? Hostname: ics.sti.edu Thanks for your immediate response. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 16 04:12:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA22591 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 04:12:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (poca33.capecod.net [205.230.13.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id EAA22583 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 04:12:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from crtb@localhost) by localhost (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA01698; Thu, 15 May 1997 23:31:19 -0400 Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 23:31:19 -0400 From: Chuck Message-Id: <199705160331.XAA01698@localhost> To: helbig@MX.BA-Stuttgart.De, proot@horton.iaces.com Subject: Re: Slow printer behavior Cc: crtb@capecod.net, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >In a previous message, Wolfgang Helbig said: >> > Running FreeBSD 2.2.0-RELEASE. >> > Problem: Printer (a Canon BJ200 Bubble-Jet) runs at normal speed about >> > half the time, but often excruciatingly slowly. Sometimes it will print an >> > entire page, pausing about ten seconds between passes across the paper. >> > And other times it goes at normal speed. I use apsfilter and >> > ghostscript 3.51 for most printing. >> > >> > This behavior just began about a month ago. I think of a bad connection >> > somewhere, with an ACK signal failing or something like that. Or is it >> > possible that the printer port interrupt can get turned off, and the >> > /dev/lpt driver fails to restore it? >> > >> > Wonder if anyone else has seen this happen. I'd be grateful to find out! >> >> Nope, I'm using the same printer, apsfilter, ghostscript 2.6.2 and -current >> and never seen anything like that. > >You might try setting your lpt port to polling instead of interrupt, and see >if that does anything. Polling should be more efficient that interrupts >anyway. I have a BJC-4100 on mine. > >You can put it in your config with: >device lpt0 at isa? port "IO_LPT1" tty Sounds interesting! I'll try it next kernel around. >Or set it via the command line with: > >lptcontrol -p -u 0 May solve the problem. Still, I'd like to know why the interrupt system seems to have failed. >Paul. > > >-- >Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity. > --Grant R. Gainey Thanks for the tips. Wonder why I never knew about lptcontrol :-] From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 16 04:48:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA23726 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 04:48:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pc-pvl.nanoteq.co.za (pc-pvl.nanoteq.co.za [163.195.219.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA23711 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 04:48:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pc-pvl.nanoteq.co.za (localhost.nanoteq.co.za [127.0.0.1]) by pc-pvl.nanoteq.co.za (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA10521; Fri, 16 May 1997 13:41:37 +0200 (SAT) Message-Id: <199705161141.NAA10521@pc-pvl.nanoteq.co.za> To: dextran@legaspi.globalink.net.ph cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Internet Server In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 16 May 1997 18:52:21 MST." <337D0F55.7F48@globalink.net.ph> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 13:41:36 +0200 From: "P. van Leeuwen" Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I've installed FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE and is now functioning. I've also > followed the instructions on Mini-DNS, my question is, is my FreeBSD > visible on the internet? or can other access my server on the internet? > > Hostname: ics.sti.edu > > Thanks for your immediate response. > nope What's your IP ? Maybe we can try that. pierre -- Pierre-Andre van Leeuwen Electronic Engineer Powered By FreeBSD ******************************** * Nanoteq (Pty) Ltd. * * Specialists in data security * * E-mail : pvl@nanoteq.com * * Ph : +27 (0)12 665-1338 * * http://www.nanoteq.co.za * ******************************** From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 16 05:07:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA24619 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 05:07:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from d2si.com (macbeth.d2si.com [206.8.31.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA24611 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 05:06:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from alec@localhost) by d2si.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA12355; Fri, 16 May 1997 07:05:49 -0500 (CDT) From: Alec Kloss Message-Id: <199705161205.HAA12355@d2si.com> Subject: Re: Internet Server In-Reply-To: <337D0F55.7F48@globalink.net.ph> from "dextran@legaspi.globalink.net.ph" at "May 16, 97 06:52:21 pm" To: dextran@legaspi.globalink.net.ph Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 07:05:49 -0500 (CDT) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk dextran@legaspi.globalink.net.ph is responsible for: > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 16 06:22:58 1997 > From: dextran@legaspi.globalink.net.ph > Message-ID: <337D0F55.7F48@globalink.net.ph> > Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 18:52:21 -0700 > Reply-To: dextran@legaspi.globalink.net.ph > X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I; 16bit) > To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: Internet Server > Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Precedence: bulk > I've installed FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE and is now functioning. I've also > followed the instructions on Mini-DNS, my question is, is my FreeBSD > visible on the internet? or can other access my server on the internet? > > Hostname: ics.sti.edu > > Thanks for your immediate response. > Well, it looks to me like you haven't registered your top level domain. More or less, you need to tell the top level servers about your domain. That'll cost you (as I recall) about $100 for the first year and $50/year from then on. See http://rs.internic.net/rs-internic.html for more information. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 16 05:19:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA24913 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 05:19:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from horton.iaces.com (root@horton.iaces.com [204.147.87.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA24907 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 05:19:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from proot@localhost) by horton.iaces.com (8.8.5/8.8.4) id HAA19906; Fri, 16 May 1997 07:18:47 -0500 (CDT) From: "Paul T. Root" Message-Id: <199705161218.HAA19906@horton.iaces.com> Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.2.1 support for Linux binaries - how to? To: r.seichter@isc-inf.com (Ralph Seichter) Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 07:18:47 -0500 (CDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <00256499.003451A1.00@[194.163.9.15]> from Ralph Seichter at "May 16, 97 09:33:22 am" X-Organization: !nterprise Networking Services - ACES X-Phone: (612) 663-1979 X-Fax: (612) 663-8030 X-Page: (800) SKY-PAGE PIN: 537-7270 X-Address: 200 S. 5th St., Suite 1100 X-Address: Minneapolis, MN 55402 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In a previous message, Ralph Seichter said: > > > > > After using NetBSD for quite a while, I've now freshly set up FreeBSD > 2.2.1. One of the reasons for migrating to FreeBSD was the support > for Linux binaries, but now I'm having trouble using this feature. > > When the X11 and fvwm2 setup looked ok to me, I installed the 'doom' > package off the distribution CDROM, which added some Linux libs. I > then added an ldconfig entry for the directory /compat/linux/lib, but > doom won't run. Executing doom.sh from an xterm (with bash) results > only in what looks like a dump of parts of 'xdoom' being printed to > the xterm window. > > Did I forget something vital for FreeBSD's Linux support? Could my > self-compiled kernel be misconfigured? > > Your help is appreciated. If there's a FAQ I missed, please tell me so. > > -Ralph- Probably. Did you read the handbook sections on Linux? I just did this last week and brought up doom just to test, then AcroRead, then StarOffice. All worked just fine. In a nutshell, here's what you do: 1) edit /etc/sysconfig to change LINUX=NO to LINUX=YES This will run the program 'linux', which loads the linux compatability kernel module. You can confirm it's there with modstat. 2) Add the linux library package. (packages/emulation). 3) That's it. Run xdoom. -- Mathematics deals exclusively with the relations of concepts to each other without consideration of their relation to experience. -- Albert Einstein From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 16 05:22:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA25104 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 05:22:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from horton.iaces.com (root@horton.iaces.com [204.147.87.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA25099 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 05:22:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from proot@localhost) by horton.iaces.com (8.8.5/8.8.4) id HAA19966; Fri, 16 May 1997 07:21:54 -0500 (CDT) From: "Paul T. Root" Message-Id: <199705161221.HAA19966@horton.iaces.com> Subject: Re: good mail filter program? To: archie@whistle.com (Archie Cobbs) Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 07:21:54 -0500 (CDT) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199705152201.PAA00600@bubba.whistle.com> from Archie Cobbs at "May 15, 97 03:01:41 pm" X-Organization: !nterprise Networking Services - ACES X-Phone: (612) 663-1979 X-Fax: (612) 663-8030 X-Page: (800) SKY-PAGE PIN: 537-7270 X-Address: 200 S. 5th St., Suite 1100 X-Address: Minneapolis, MN 55402 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In a previous message, Archie Cobbs said: > > I'm looking for a good mail filter program, i.e., a program to put in > my .forward file that will sort my incoming mail into various mailbox > files automatically based on sender, etc. > > I've been using "filter", which used to be part of elm (but seems to > be no more), but it mysteriously dies all the time, causing bounce > messages. So I'm trying to upgrade. > > Any ideas appreciated. Well, there's procmail. I don't know how to use it, but I've seen it recommend many times. However, I've used filter (from elm) for years. And am using it now on FreeBSD with no problems. Did you build your own elm or install the package? The package works fine. -- "Your friend dissected, yourself a mental vegetable; not a pleasant prospect, is it, Captain?" -- Kang From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 16 05:31:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA25348 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 05:31:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from buffnet4.buffnet.net (buffnet4.buffnet.net [205.246.19.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA25327; Fri, 16 May 1997 05:31:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from buffnet11.buffnet.net (shovey@buffnet11.buffnet.net [205.246.19.55]) by buffnet4.buffnet.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA21159; Fri, 16 May 1997 08:30:17 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 08:30:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve To: spork cc: William Bulley , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, jjudge@usr.com, support@usr.com Subject: Re: radius, usr total control and freebsd In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 15 May 1997, spork wrote: > If anyone has info on Radius and USR Total Control, I'd love to hear from > them as well... We just bought a whole bunch of these, and I hate the > thought of buying a Sparc or NT (yechhhh) machine to run the USR modded > Radius. > > Of course, for $5000-ish, they'll compile me a FBSD version, the > salesperson says. Pretty dumb marketing if you ask me; what do they have > to lose by following the lead of Ascend, Livingston, and Xylogics in > giving out source code to something that only works with a product you've > already bought from them... > The books says it will run with merit - but I havent gotten past the red tape of just getting the frikin x2 code I purchased and the damn snmp control software - they do not make it easy and Im >< close to sending the hardware back for a refund. > Charles > > On Thu, 15 May 1997, William Bulley wrote: > > > According to Steve: > > > > > > Anyone successfully using merit radius from the ports collection on > > > freebsd with the usr total control network hub? > > > > > > Im having some trouble and could use some help. > > > > Last time I checked the ports collection contained a very old version > > of the Merit server. I have built our server on 2.1.5 without problem. > > > > Regards, > > > > web... > > > > -- > > William Bulley, N8NXN Senior Systems Research Programmer > > Merit Network, Inc. Email: web@merit.edu > > 4251 Plymouth Road, Suite C Phone: (313) 764-9993 > > Ann Arbor, Michigan 48105-2785 Fax: (313) 647-3185 > > > > [ What's all the fuss over the end of the century with mission critial ] > > [ programs failing due to dates? If people simply started using Roman ] > > [ Numerials the problem vanishes! MCM = 1900 MCMXCIX = 1999 MM = 2000 ] > > > > From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 16 06:01:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA26943 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 06:01:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA26937; Fri, 16 May 1997 06:01:03 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Message-Id: <199705161301.GAA26937@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: installation is going fine... To: dshapter@apexgrp.com (Doug Shapter) Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 06:01:03 -0700 (PDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Doug Shapter" at May 15, 97 11:43:20 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Doug Shapter wrote: > > wd0 1G FAT (contains MBR) > wd1 2.1G NTFS > wd2 2.1G freebsd. > > the OSes currently installed: > on wd0: Windows 95. > on wd1: Windows NT 4.0 > on wd2: freebsd. hmmm....boot easy only handles two hard drives as far as i know. you would need to install a FreeBSD slice (dos partition) on one of the first two drives. place the root filesystem on that FreeBSD slice. /etc/fstab will then mount filesystems from the thrid drive without problems. i will send this to freebsd-questions so that someone will correct me if i am mistaken about this. i will call you later today. jmb From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 16 06:55:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA28890 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 06:55:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from elkomtech.com.pl (ns.elkomtech.com.pl [195.116.29.224]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA28854 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 06:55:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from JarekB ([199.1.1.230]) by elkomtech.com.pl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA11387 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 15:56:34 +0200 Message-ID: Read-Receipt-To: "=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Jaros=B3aw_Bilich?=" Priority: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Jaros=B3aw_Bilich?=" Subject: Description of EISA standard Date: pt, 16 maj 97 14:44:18 PDT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-2"; X-MAPIextension=".TXT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id GAA28886 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I would like to get detailed inforamation about EISA standard (for PC) including timing specification, too. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 16 06:56:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA28974 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 06:56:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.116.240]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA28963 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 06:56:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.31.2]) by Campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (RBI-Z-5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id PAA06862 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 15:57:09 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.8.5/8.6.9) id PAA01364 for freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com; Fri, 16 May 1997 15:56:47 +0200 (MEST) Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 15:56:47 +0200 (MEST) From: Christoph Kukulies Message-Id: <199705161356.PAA01364@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de> To: freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org Subject: netscape floating exception 3.01 under 3.0-current Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Very strange: On one of my 3.0-current systems running Netscape-301 (netscape-v301-export.x86-unknown-bsd.tar.gz) I'm getting a Floating Exception and netscape dies when I click on the [Net Search] button. Here is a kdump (tail): 4736 netscape.bin CALL gettimeofday(0xefbfc3b8,0) 4736 netscape.bin RET gettimeofday 0 4736 netscape.bin CALL gettimeofday(0xefbfc3f0,0) 4736 netscape.bin RET gettimeofday 0 4736 netscape.bin CALL ioctl(0x6,FIONREAD,0xefbfbc48) 4736 netscape.bin RET ioctl 0 4736 netscape.bin CALL write(0x6,0x51b000,0x1c) 4736 netscape.bin GIO fd 6 wrote 28 bytes ">\0\a\0±\0@\^CM\^B@\^Cl\^B@\^C\0\0\0\0\^B\0\^B\0<\0<\0" 4736 netscape.bin RET write 28/0x1c 4736 netscape.bin CALL ioctl(0x6,FIONREAD,0xefbfbc48) 4736 netscape.bin RET ioctl 0 4736 netscape.bin CALL read(0x6,0xefbfbc4c,0x20) 4736 netscape.bin GIO fd 6 read 32 bytes "\^NBñ\^RM\^B@\^C\0\0>\0¤x \0àÖ¿ïk\M^S\^A\0<¼p\0lBp\0" 4736 netscape.bin RET read 32/0x20 4736 netscape.bin CALL gettimeofday(0xefbfc47c,0) 4736 netscape.bin RET gettimeofday 0 4736 netscape.bin CALL gettimeofday(0xefbfc3e8,0) 4736 netscape.bin RET gettimeofday 0 4736 netscape.bin CALL ioctl(0x6,FIONREAD,0xefbfbc4c) 4736 netscape.bin RET ioctl 0 4736 netscape.bin CALL ioctl(0x6,FIONREAD,0xefbfbc4c) 4736 netscape.bin RET ioctl 0 4736 netscape.bin CALL gettimeofday(0xefbfc47c,0) 4736 netscape.bin RET gettimeofday 0 4736 netscape.bin CALL read(0xf,0x5f9000,0x7c00) 4736 netscape.bin GIO fd 15 read 683 bytes ".substring(0,1)=="2") ) s=tstring.substring(tstring.length-5,tstrin\ g.length-3); else s=tstring.substring(tstring.length-3,tstring.leng\ th-1); position=Math.round(s/5); if (Math.round(s/5)==20) position=0; slot=w.substring(position,position+1); gohere("http://home.netscape.com/escapes/search/ntsrch\ rnd-"+slot+".html"); } else gohere("http://home.netscape.com/escapes/search/ntsrchdft-"+sa\ mpler_num+".html"); document.write(" " 4736 netscape.bin RET read 683/0x2ab 4736 netscape.bin CALL gettimeofday(0xefbfc29c,0) 4736 netscape.bin RET gettimeofday 0 4736 netscape.bin CALL break(0x69c000) 4736 netscape.bin RET break 0 4736 netscape.bin CALL break(0x69d000) 4736 netscape.bin RET break 0 4736 netscape.bin CALL break(0x69d000) 4736 netscape.bin RET break 0 4736 netscape.bin CALL break(0x69e000) 4736 netscape.bin RET break 0 4736 netscape.bin PSIG SIGALRM caught handler=0x4298e0 mask=0x0 code=0x0 4736 netscape.bin CALL gettimeofday(0xefbfb62c,0) 4736 netscape.bin RET gettimeofday 0 4736 netscape.bin CALL sigreturn(0xefbfb6ac) 4736 netscape.bin RET sigreturn JUSTRETURN 4736 netscape.bin CALL gettimeofday(0xefbfbd44,0) 4736 netscape.bin RET gettimeofday 0 4736 netscape.bin CALL gettimeofday(0xefbfbd68,0) 4736 netscape.bin RET gettimeofday 0 4736 netscape.bin PSIG SIGFPE SIG_DFL 4736 netscape.bin NAMI "netscape.bin.core" Before I upgraded to 3.0 I had core dumps from netstat (which seems to get exec'ed - netstat -ni from netscape) The only thing special to my config is that I'm running bisdn. -- Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 16 07:05:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA29444 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 07:05:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iceberg.anchorage.net. (root@iceberg.anchorage.net [207.14.72.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA29439 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 07:05:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aak.anchorage.net (ai-129 [207.14.72.129]) by iceberg.anchorage.net. (8.6.11/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA18032; Fri, 16 May 1997 05:02:33 -0800 Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 05:55:23 -0800 (AKDT) From: Steve Howe X-Sender: abc@aak.anchorage.net To: Francisco Reyes cc: FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: Which newsreader to use? In-Reply-To: <199705160522.BAA19343@federation.addy.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 16 May 1997, Francisco Reyes wrote: > Could someone tell me the name of an easy to install/use newsreader to > use with FreeBSD. yeah, PINE, and Netscape. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sleep: a sign a caffeine deprivation ... http://www.anchorage.net/~un_x ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 16 07:06:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA29508 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 07:06:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.EUnet.hu (www.eunet.hu [193.225.28.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA29503 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 07:06:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.EUnet.hu, id QAA29839; Fri, 16 May 1997 16:06:02 +0200 Received: (from zgabor@localhost) by CoDe.hu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA00278; Fri, 16 May 1997 15:19:16 +0200 (MET DST) From: Zahemszky Gabor Message-Id: <199705161319.PAA00278@CoDe.hu> Subject: Re: Can FreeBSD be loaded from DOS? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org (FreeBSD questions) Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 15:19:16 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: cbrown@seitz.com In-Reply-To: <9A9E782F012E0F00@seitz.com> from Chris Brown at "May 15, 97 01:23:29 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL11 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > VERY shortly (within the week) I'll be setting up a new server and > the folks here at work wanted to know if FreeBSD can be loaded from > DOS. I have loaded Linux using loadlin.exe from DOS and am > currently doing it from Win95 at home but now. Is there something > similar for FreeBSD? I really don't want to do it from FreeBSD's > boot loader because we have computer folks that are campetent with > the hardware but are not familiar with UN*X. Since so much of the > hardware these days is software configured via DOS apps. it will be > necessary to load DOS and possibly windows at some point. Of course, yes. Use the fbsdboot.exe, found in the util directory, if I know well. The version with 2.1.5 cannot work with emm386, but maybe the newer version can handle it, too. And I've heard that you can use loadlin too, but don't know, how. Gabor -- #!/bin/ksh Z='21N16I25C25E30, 40M30E33E25T15U!' ;IFS=' ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ ';set $Z;for i { [[ $i = ? ]]&&print $i&&break;[[ $i = ??? ]]&&j=$i&&i=${i%?};typeset -i40 i=8#$i;print -n ${i#???};[[ "$j" = ??? ]]&&print -n "${j#??} "&&j=;typeset +i i;};IFS=' 0123456789 ';set $Z;X=;for i { [[ $i = , ]]&&i=2;[[ $i = ?? ]]||typeset -l i;X="$X $i";typeset +l i;};print "$X" From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 16 07:10:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA29666 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 07:10:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iceberg.anchorage.net. (root@iceberg.anchorage.net [207.14.72.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA29661 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 07:10:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aak.anchorage.net (ai-129 [207.14.72.129]) by iceberg.anchorage.net. (8.6.11/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA18054; Fri, 16 May 1997 05:07:47 -0800 Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 06:00:38 -0800 (AKDT) From: Steve Howe X-Sender: abc@aak.anchorage.net To: dextran@legaspi.globalink.net.ph cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Internet Server In-Reply-To: <337D0F55.7F48@globalink.net.ph> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 16 May 1997 dextran@legaspi.globalink.net.ph wrote: > I've installed FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE and is now functioning. I've also > followed the instructions on Mini-DNS, my question is, is my FreeBSD > visible on the internet? or can other access my server on the internet? > > Hostname: ics.sti.edu > > Thanks for your immediate response. no and no. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sleep: a sign a caffeine deprivation ... http://www.anchorage.net/~un_x ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 16 07:16:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA29874 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 07:16:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iceberg.anchorage.net. (root@iceberg.anchorage.net [207.14.72.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA29866; Fri, 16 May 1997 07:16:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aak.anchorage.net (ai-129 [207.14.72.129]) by iceberg.anchorage.net. (8.6.11/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA18080; Fri, 16 May 1997 05:13:30 -0800 Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 06:06:20 -0800 (AKDT) From: Steve Howe X-Sender: abc@aak.anchorage.net To: "Jonathan M. Bresler" cc: Doug Shapter , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: installation is going fine... In-Reply-To: <199705161301.GAA26937@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 16 May 1997, Jonathan M. Bresler wrote: > Doug Shapter wrote: > > > > wd0 1G FAT (contains MBR) > > wd1 2.1G NTFS > > wd2 2.1G freebsd. > > > > the OSes currently installed: > > on wd0: Windows 95. > > on wd1: Windows NT 4.0 > > on wd2: freebsd. > > hmmm....boot easy only handles two hard drives as far as i know. > you would need to install a FreeBSD slice (dos partition) on > one of the first two drives. place the root filesystem on that > FreeBSD slice. /etc/fstab will then mount filesystems from the > thrid drive without problems. > > i will send this to freebsd-questions so that someone will > correct me if i am mistaken about this. > > i will call you later today. > jmb i checked out the source for booteasy a few years ago, and i'm pretty sure it was written to manage 4 ... i just remember being surprised that i was not limited to two. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sleep: a sign a caffeine deprivation ... http://www.anchorage.net/~un_x ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 16 07:20:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA00188 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 07:20:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eac.iafrica.com (196-31-98-49.iafrica.com [196.31.98.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA29991 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 07:19:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from rnordier@localhost) by eac.iafrica.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) id QAA02465; Fri, 16 May 1997 16:14:51 +0200 (SAT) From: Robert Nordier Message-Id: <199705161414.QAA02465@eac.iafrica.com> Subject: Re: good mail filter program? In-Reply-To: <199705161221.HAA19966@horton.iaces.com> from "Paul T. Root" at "May 16, 97 07:21:54 am" To: proot@horton.iaces.com (Paul T. Root) Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 16:14:49 +0200 (SAT) Cc: archie@whistle.com, questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Paul T. Root wrote: > In a previous message, Archie Cobbs said: [ ... ] > > I've been using "filter", which used to be part of elm (but seems to > > be no more), but it mysteriously dies all the time, causing bounce > > messages. So I'm trying to upgrade. > > > > Any ideas appreciated. > > Well, there's procmail. I don't know how to use it, but I've seen it > recommend many times. > > However, I've used filter (from elm) for years. And am using it now > on FreeBSD with no problems. Did you build your own elm or install the > package? The package works fine. Elm's "filter" has severe problems with buffer overflows. Even some messages on the "cvs-all" list have caused it to dump core. This from the README.ME+ file: | - Makefile now don't compile or install 'filter' because security | problems in it. -- Robert Nordier From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 16 08:00:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA02182 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 08:00:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay3.UU.NET (relay3.UU.NET [192.48.96.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA02176; Fri, 16 May 1997 08:00:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from terminus.apexgrp.com by relay3.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: terminus.apexgrp.com [204.179.244.3]) id QQcpui04867; Fri, 16 May 1997 11:00:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from by terminus.apexgrp.com with SMTP (1.38.193.5/16.2) id AA23119; Fri, 16 May 1997 10:57:35 -0400 From: Doug Shapter X-Openmail-Hops: 1 Date: Fri, 16 May 97 10:57:18 -0400 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: installation is going fine... Mime-Version: 1.0 To: un_x@anchorage.net Cc: dshapter@terminus.apexgrp.com, jmb@FreeBSD.ORG, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="Message" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > On Fri, 16 May 1997, Jonathan M. Bresler wrote: > > > Doug Shapter wrote: > > > > > > wd0 1G FAT (contains MBR) > > > wd1 2.1G NTFS > > > wd2 2.1G freebsd. > > > > > > the OSes currently installed: > > > on wd0: Windows 95. > > > on wd1: Windows NT 4.0 > > > on wd2: freebsd. > > > > hmmm....boot easy only handles two hard drives as far as i know. > > you would need to install a FreeBSD slice (dos partition) on > > one of the first two drives. place the root filesystem on that > > FreeBSD slice. /etc/fstab will then mount filesystems from the > > thrid drive without problems. > > > > > i checked out the source for booteasy a few years ago, > and i'm pretty sure it was written to manage 4 ... > i just remember being surprised that i was not > limited to two. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Sleep: a sign a caffeine deprivation ... http://www.anchorage.net/~un_x > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > That certainly could be the case...more likely, my ignorance. In any case, a solution was making the NT40 disk the slave on the secondary IDE bus and editing boot.ini to point to that device. Now all three OSes are bootable (well, not quite. now I have to figure out why I can't mount root. Thanks. dps From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 16 09:13:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA05653 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 09:13:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cedb.dpcsys.com (cedb.DPCSYS.com [209.25.4.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA05644 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 09:13:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dan@localhost) by cedb.dpcsys.com (8.8.5/8.8.2) with SMTP id QAA13534; Fri, 16 May 1997 16:13:18 GMT Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 09:13:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Busarow To: questions@freebsd.org cc: dextran@legaspi.globalink.net.ph Subject: Re: Internet Server In-Reply-To: <199705161205.HAA12355@d2si.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 16 May 1997, Alec Kloss wrote: > dextran@legaspi.globalink.net.ph is responsible for: > > I've installed FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE and is now functioning. I've also > > followed the instructions on Mini-DNS, my question is, is my FreeBSD > > visible on the internet? or can other access my server on the internet? > > > > Hostname: ics.sti.edu > > Well, it looks to me like you haven't registered your top level > domain. More or less, you need to tell the top level servers about Close Since the question came from the Philipines, and .edu is for US 4 year colleges and universities, InterNIC won't be much help. Info at APNIC suggests that you need to register with ph.net for an edu.ph domain but the connection is pretty slow from over here so I wasn't able to confirm this. See http://www.apnic.net http://www.ph.net Dan -- Dan Busarow 714 443 4172 DPC Systems / Beach.Net dan@dpcsys.com Dana Point, California 83 09 EF 59 E0 11 89 B4 8D 09 DB FD E1 DD 0C 82 From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 16 09:37:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA06838 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 09:37:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cedb.dpcsys.com (cedb.DPCSYS.com [209.25.4.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA06833 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 09:37:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dan@localhost) by cedb.dpcsys.com (8.8.5/8.8.2) with SMTP id QAA13633; Fri, 16 May 1997 16:37:12 GMT Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 09:37:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Busarow To: "Jukka A. Ukkonen" cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Weird KDENABIO behaviour in 2.2.1 In-Reply-To: <199705160931.MAA00569@jau.tmt.tele.fi> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 16 May 1997, Jukka A. Ukkonen wrote: > Has anyone noticed that you cannot start X server in 2.2.1 > once you have switched the system security level to 1? There was a long thread on this in Hackers a month or so ago. You may want to search the Hackers archive to see how this was resolved. Dan -- Dan Busarow 714 443 4172 DPC Systems / Beach.Net dan@dpcsys.com Dana Point, California 83 09 EF 59 E0 11 89 B4 8D 09 DB FD E1 DD 0C 82 From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 16 09:41:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA07085 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 09:41:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from f01n05.cac.psu.edu (f01n05-fddi.cac.psu.edu [146.186.157.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA07073 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 09:40:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from psu.cac.psu.edu (access-ykts1p8.yk.psu.edu [146.186.225.138]) by f01n05.cac.psu.edu (8.7.6/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA52140 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 12:40:53 -0400 Message-ID: <337C8E7D.208C@psu.edu> Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 12:42:37 -0400 From: Brian Freeman Reply-To: bef126@psu.edu X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: mouse Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I have recently installed FreeBSD 2.2.1. I am currently trying to install XFree86. The problem I have is that I can't configure my mouse. It's plugged into the PS/2 port on the back of my computer. It is a fairly new Logitech (about 1 year old). It worked fine under win/95 where it was configured as a Microsoft mouse. I tried every available protocol on the options menu but none of them seemed to work. Do you have any suggestions on how I can configure my mouse or what I did wrong when I installed FreeBSD. If this is not the place to ask this kind of question, could you please tell me who to forward this to? Thank you Brian bef126@psu.edu From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 16 09:53:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA07784 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 09:53:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from helios.whro.org (helios.whro.org [198.78.178.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA07779 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 09:53:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from blueprint.whro.org (blueprint.whro.org [198.78.178.124]) by helios.whro.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA27527 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 12:52:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <337CAD8B.6E74@whro.org> Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 11:55:07 -0700 From: Bob Boone Reply-To: bboone@whro.org Organization: Hampton Roads Educational Telecommunications Association X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: routed running on an "internal" server Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm running a webserver (2.1.5 + apache). DNS for everything "inside" the gateway-router is maintained on one machine, maybe 11 other machines operate "inside" this gateway-router, subordinate to this Nameserver. The network has recently been expanded by adding three more routers, to segment traffic within the original network. My path "out" to the internet has not changed, and that router is defined as my "defaultrouter=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx" (with the real numbers) in sysconfig. In sysconfig, the "router=routed" line is also active. Since the new routers were added, my "message" log is running about 1/2meg-a-day with "routed[49] ; packet from unknown router, *address*" data.... I don't use these paths, I don't need the log-files ;-), so I want it to go away. One NetAdmin suggested just setting "routed=no". WILL THIS AFFECT HOW OTHERS ACCESS MY WEBSITE ??? ARE THERE OTHER / BETTER OPTIONS ??? inquiring minds want .... (well, you know...) -- Bob Boone, Chief Engineer for Television WHRO-TV/FM 5200 Hampton Blvd. Norfolk, Va. 23508 Pager: (757) 860-3303 *** Ph: (757) 889-9466 *** Fx: (757) 489-4444 Internet: bboone@whro.org WebSite: http://www.whro.org ===================================================================== From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 16 11:09:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA11473 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 11:09:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from horton.iaces.com (root@horton.iaces.com [204.147.87.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA11468 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 11:09:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from proot@localhost) by horton.iaces.com (8.8.5/8.8.4) id NAA03818; Fri, 16 May 1997 13:09:10 -0500 (CDT) From: "Paul T. Root" Message-Id: <199705161809.NAA03818@horton.iaces.com> Subject: Re: mouse To: bef126@psu.edu Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 13:09:10 -0500 (CDT) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <337C8E7D.208C@psu.edu> from Brian Freeman at "May 16, 97 12:42:37 pm" X-Organization: !nterprise Networking Services - ACES X-Phone: (612) 663-1979 X-Fax: (612) 663-8030 X-Page: (800) SKY-PAGE PIN: 537-7270 X-Address: 200 S. 5th St., Suite 1100 X-Address: Minneapolis, MN 55402 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In a previous message, Brian Freeman said: > Hi, > > I have recently installed FreeBSD 2.2.1. I am currently trying to > install XFree86. The problem I have is that I can't configure my > mouse. It's plugged into the PS/2 port on the back of my computer. > It is a fairly new Logitech (about 1 year old). It worked fine under > win/95 where it was configured as a Microsoft mouse. I tried every > available protocol on the options menu but none of them seemed to work. > Do you have any suggestions on how I can configure my mouse or what > I did wrong when I installed FreeBSD. Hmm. When you run xf86config, choose ps/2 mouse, and don't emulate the 3rd button (since you have one). The device should be /dev/mouse Here's what my config looks like: # ********************************************************************** # Pointer section # ********************************************************************** Section "Pointer" Protocol "PS/2" Device "/dev/mouse" # When using XQUEUE, comment out the above two lines, and uncomment # the following line. # Protocol "Xqueue" # Baudrate and SampleRate are only for some Logitech mice # BaudRate 9600 # SampleRate 150 # Emulate3Buttons is an option for 2-button Microsoft mice # Emulate3Timeout is the timeout in milliseconds (default is 50ms) # Emulate3Buttons # Emulate3Timeout 50 # ChordMiddle is an option for some 3-button Logitech mice # ChordMiddle EndSection Hope that helps. As an aside. It's configured wrong, or at least not optimally in Windows95. Use the software that came with it or download the latest from www.logitech.com. With it you can set the 3rd button to do useful things, like double-click or the like. Then change the driver to be logitech's. > If this is not the place to ask this kind of question, could you please > tell me who to forward this to? This is the place. > Thank you > Brian > bef126@psu.edu > > -- If you know what Sampo is; write it on a piece of paper to MST 3000 and then throw the paper away. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 16 11:12:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA11704 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 11:12:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de (helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de [141.31.166.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA11696 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 11:12:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from helbig@localhost) by helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA27084; Fri, 16 May 1997 20:12:31 +0200 (MET DST) From: Wolfgang Helbig Message-Id: <199705161812.UAA27084@helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de> Subject: Re: mouse In-Reply-To: <337C8E7D.208C@psu.edu> from Brian Freeman at "May 16, 97 12:42:37 pm" To: bef126@psu.edu Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 20:12:21 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL30 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Hi, > > I have recently installed FreeBSD 2.2.1. I am currently trying to > install XFree86. The problem I have is that I can't configure my > mouse. It's plugged into the PS/2 port on the back of my computer. > It is a fairly new Logitech (about 1 year old). It worked fine under > win/95 where it was configured as a Microsoft mouse. I tried every > available protocol on the options menu but none of them seemed to work. > Do you have any suggestions on how I can configure my mouse or what > I did wrong when I installed FreeBSD. You have to enable the psm0 driver during kernel configuration time (or build a custom kernel with psm0 driver enabled) and then configure the mouse with /stand/sysinstall to be a PS/2 mouse. > > Thank you You're welcome Wolfgang > Brian > bef126@psu.edu > From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 16 11:16:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA11892 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 11:16:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vdp01.vailsystems.com (root@vdp01.vailsystems.com [207.152.98.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA11884 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 11:16:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crocodile.vale.com (crocodile [192.168.128.47]) by vdp01.vailsystems.com (8.8.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA11821; Fri, 16 May 1997 13:16:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: from jaguar.vale.com (jaguar.vale.com [192.168.129.46]) by crocodile.vale.com (8.8.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA26398; Fri, 16 May 1997 13:16:08 -0500 (CDT) From: hal@vailsys.com (Hal Snyder) To: Shawn Klomparens Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD as a router Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 18:16:10 GMT Organization: Vail Systems Message-ID: <337f9fed.1225739059@w3> References: <3.0.1.32.19970517112702.006a5274@mail.sisna.com> In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19970517112702.006a5274@mail.sisna.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.0/32.390 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id LAA11888 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 17 May 1997 11:27:02 -0600, klomp@sisna.com wrote: >I was just looking through the FreeBSD mailing list archives, and I found >your message regarding FBSD as a dedicated router. Can you suggest any >documents or sources which might address this solution in more detail? There's not a lot I can tell you. Say "yes" to gateway in /etc/sysconfig. Use ipfw or ipfirewall to filter out unwanted traffic. Use bpf (=bpfilter) if you want to use tcpdump. I have used this approach at two commercial sites. FreeBSD runs 24x7, uptimes limited only by scheduled reboots. Tcpdump eliminates the need for a separate sniffer. Do you want to route across LAN's only, or talk to a wide area link? If you want to connect to a T1 or frame relay link, you can use an Emerging Technologies HDLC card with (one or two ports per card) and your FreeBSD system as good as a Cisco - better if you think in Unix. Adding an interface is as easy as inserting a network card in the PC (or switching in a double card for a single). I'd try scanning/emailing questions@freebsd.org for the latest on WAN cards. (I'm copying this message there.) From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 16 11:29:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA12310 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 11:29:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cedb.dpcsys.com (cedb.DPCSYS.com [209.25.4.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA12302 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 11:29:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dan@localhost) by cedb.dpcsys.com (8.8.5/8.8.2) with SMTP id SAA14311; Fri, 16 May 1997 18:29:00 GMT Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 11:28:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Busarow To: Bob Boone cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: routed running on an "internal" server In-Reply-To: <337CAD8B.6E74@whro.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 16 May 1997, Bob Boone wrote: > One NetAdmin suggested just setting "routed=no". WILL THIS AFFECT > HOW OTHERS ACCESS MY WEBSITE ??? ARE THERE OTHER / BETTER OPTIONS ??? Since you say that you are only concerned with routes to the Internet and your local segment of the LAN a single default route pointing to the net plus the automatic route for your own lan are all you need. Turn routed off, you'll be glad you did. If, in the future, you need to access portions of the LAN behind those other routers you may be able to get by with some static routes. If not, you will need routed (or better, gated) at that time. Dan -- Dan Busarow 714 443 4172 DPC Systems / Beach.Net dan@dpcsys.com Dana Point, California 83 09 EF 59 E0 11 89 B4 8D 09 DB FD E1 DD 0C 82 From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 16 12:37:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA15203 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 12:37:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (root@agora.rdrop.com [199.2.210.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA15197 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 12:37:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from access.netaxs.com (mail@access.netaxs.com [207.8.186.2]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA09948 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 12:37:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unix1.netaxs.com (mail@unix1.netaxs.com [207.8.186.3]) by access.netaxs.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA02481 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 15:35:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from noyles@localhost) by unix1.netaxs.com (8.8.5/8.8.4) id PAA10316; Fri, 16 May 1997 15:35:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 15:35:52 -0400 (EDT) From: "Juan J. Noyles" To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Subscribe Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Subscribe Juan Noyles From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 16 12:38:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA15273 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 12:38:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.Bridge.COM (gatekeeper.bridge.com [167.76.159.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA15263 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 12:38:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mailproxy@localhost) by gatekeeper.Bridge.COM (8.6.12/8.6.9) id OAA14592 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 14:34:17 -0500 Received: from dns1srv.bridge.com(167.76.36.6) by gatekeeper.Bridge.COM via smap (V1.3) id sma014573; Fri May 16 14:34:04 1997 Received: from logroad.bridge.com (logroad.bridge.com [167.76.15.21]) by dns1srv.bridge.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA27047 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 14:38:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: by logroad.bridge.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA04807; Fri, 16 May 1997 14:38:14 -0500 From: mhughes@logroad.bridge.com (Michael Hughes) Message-Id: <199705161938.OAA04807@logroad.bridge.com> Subject: Re: mouse To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 14:38:14 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <199705161809.NAA03818@horton.iaces.com> from "Paul T. Root" at May 16, 97 01:09:10 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In a previous message, Brian Freeman said: > Hi, > > I have recently installed FreeBSD 2.2.1. I am currently trying to > install XFree86. The problem I have is that I can't configure my > mouse. It's plugged into the PS/2 port on the back of my computer. > It is a fairly new Logitech (about 1 year old). It worked fine under > win/95 where it was configured as a Microsoft mouse. I tried every > available protocol on the options menu but none of them seemed to work. > Do you have any suggestions on how I can configure my mouse or what > I did wrong when I installed FreeBSD. Did you enable the ps/2 port in the kernel? If not, boot the system with a -c and enable psm0. Hope this helps. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _ _ _ _ _ , Loghome living is the ' ) ) ) / // ' ) / / best ! / / / o _. /_ __. _ // /--/ . . _, /_ _ _ / ' (_<_(__/ /_(_/|_ Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA15321 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 12:39:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whistle.com (s205m131.whistle.com [207.76.205.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA15310 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 12:38:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by whistle.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id MAA18052; Fri, 16 May 1997 12:38:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bubba.whistle.com(207.76.205.7) by whistle.com via smap (V1.3) id sma018050; Fri May 16 12:38:12 1997 Received: (from archie@localhost) by bubba.whistle.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) id MAA02622; Fri, 16 May 1997 12:38:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Archie Cobbs Message-Id: <199705161938.MAA02622@bubba.whistle.com> Subject: Re: good mail filter program? In-Reply-To: <199705161414.QAA02465@eac.iafrica.com> from Robert Nordier at "May 16, 97 04:14:49 pm" To: rnordier@iafrica.com (Robert Nordier) Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 12:38:12 -0700 (PDT) Cc: proot@horton.iaces.com, questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > I've been using "filter", which used to be part of elm (but seems to > > > be no more), but it mysteriously dies all the time, causing bounce > > > messages. So I'm trying to upgrade. > > > > > > Any ideas appreciated. > > > > Well, there's procmail. I don't know how to use it, but I've seen it > > recommend many times. > > > > However, I've used filter (from elm) for years. And am using it now > > on FreeBSD with no problems. Did you build your own elm or install the > > package? The package works fine. > > Elm's "filter" has severe problems with buffer overflows. Even some > messages on the "cvs-all" list have caused it to dump core. > > This from the README.ME+ file: > > | - Makefile now don't compile or install 'filter' because security > | problems in it. Yes, procmail seems to do the trick. Thanks, -Archie ___________________________________________________________________________ Archie Cobbs * Whistle Communications, Inc. * http://www.whistle.com From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 16 13:24:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA17400 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 13:24:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from toth.ferginc.com (toth.ferginc.com [205.139.23.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA17351 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 13:23:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost by toth.ferginc.com (You/Wish) with SMTP id QAA19927 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 16:23:24 -0400 (EDT) Posted-Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 16:23:24 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 16:23:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Branson Matheson X-Sender: branson@toth.hq.ferg.com Reply-To: Branson Matheson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: NFS Stale File Handle. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have an NFS stale file handle on a box that was placed there by amd I believe. I cannot seem to get rid of it... any ideas? I was told that there may be a process still trying to access that unmounted partition... but I cannot find it ... I seem to remember another way to do this .. but cannot remember .. can anyone point me in the right direction? - branson ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Branson Matheson " If you are falling off of a mountain, System Administrator You may as well try to fly." Ferguson Enterprises - Delenn, Mimbari Ambassador From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 16 13:24:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA17431 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 13:24:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from r33h142.res.gatech.edu (r33h142.res.gatech.edu [128.61.33.142]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA17425 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 13:24:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jason@localhost) by r33h142.res.gatech.edu (8.8.5/8.7.3) id QAA01967 for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 16 May 1997 16:24:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Jason Bennett Message-Id: <199705162024.QAA01967@r33h142.res.gatech.edu> Subject: Directory Overwrite To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 16:24:08 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Well, I had an interesting experience last night. I was installing a package with pkg_add, using the url on command line technique. It tried to fetch the parts to the /var mount, which doesn't have near enough space for xemacs. So it ran out of space, complained, and I aborted with a ^C. It then dutifully cleaned up its mess. Unfortunately, it deleted my home directory in the process. The entire directory, not just the files in the directory. I was su root at the time, which I've been told was my first mistake. Now, I've gone back and recreated myself so I can log in. Is there any possible way to recover my stuff? And why exactly did it kill my files? jason From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 16 14:43:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA21627 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 14:43:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from onyx.xtalwind.net (root@onyx.xtalwind.net [205.160.242.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA21587 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 14:42:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shadow.xtalwind.net (slipper7a.xtalwind.net [205.160.242.63]) by onyx.xtalwind.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id RAA05343 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 17:42:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199705162142.RAA05343@onyx.xtalwind.net> From: "Michael Nichols" To: Subject: cd-rom Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 17:26:26 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm trying to install free BSD, but its not finding my cd-rom. I have a Sound Blaster Discovery 8x CD-ROM Kit, it also comes with a SB 32 PnP sound card. I used the visual Kernel config option, and adjusted the hardware settings to what I thought they were. I have windows 95, being that it adjusts the hardware/software to whatever it wants, so I'm not quite sure.. Help..... Thank You... From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 16 16:44:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA26993 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 16:44:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sucks.to.be.you.net (moke@sucks.to.be.you.net [204.246.64.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA26947 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 16:43:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (moke@localhost) by sucks.to.be.you.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA24053 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 18:41:20 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 18:41:19 -0500 (CDT) From: Jimbo Bahooli To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Installing fixes.. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk After a HD crash I was forced to reinstall FreeBSD again, I noticed a few things. 1. In the /usr/share/skel files, the umask is set to 022. With the default adduser configuration the umask should be 002. This allows the idea used in the adduser program (giving each user its own group) to actually work. 2. The ppp lkm is broken. Another person reported this problem to me, and I observed it also. So it existed in both 2.2.1-RELEASE, and 2.2-970422-RELENG, the excact error was: (it would reach this error after modem connecting and before trying to set /dev/cuaaX -> ppp0) ioctl(TIOCSETD): Operation not supported by device. The error disappeared once pppd support was in the kernel with the excact same pppd configuration files. 3. No option to mount extended DOS partitions in install. I am aware that sysinstall uses a different msdosfs driver then FreeBSD, but the ability to install from an extended partition would only help. And thats about it. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 16 16:56:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA27486 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 16:56:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scosysv.datakinetics.com (scosysv.datakinetics.com [204.179.149.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA27481 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 16:56:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pm398.cisnet.com by scosysv.datakinetics.com id aa06053; 16 May 97 19:53 EDT Message-ID: <337D1DFB.56E0@datakinetics.com> Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 19:54:52 -0700 From: "Brian H. Nelson" Reply-To: bhn@datakinetics.com Organization: Datakinetics Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Help with man and sc0 console Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Two quick things... Man wont work for me i get something like MAN: cannot access file /etc/manpath.config the config file is there and looks right... it hasnt worked since installation.. but i havent changed anything that (i think) wouldve affected it... Also.. what 'flags' can be used in the MYKERNEL file to make sc0 have a blinking underline curser? i used 0x02 and got a blinking block but id like underline if its possible... and what are all the flags in general for the sc0 device? i dont know where to find documentation for that. thank you From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 16 17:05:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA27760 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 17:05:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (root@agora.rdrop.com [199.2.210.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA27752 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 17:05:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.xinetron.com (www.xinetron.com [206.86.215.68]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA00602 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 17:05:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pop.xinetron.com (pop.xinetron.com [206.86.215.82]) by www.xinetron.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA00284 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 17:03:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jason.gallantry.com (jason.xinetron.com [206.86.215.94]) by pop.xinetron.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA06706 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 17:03:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <337CF5CB.41C67EA6@xinetron.com> Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 17:03:23 -0700 From: Jason Liao Organization: Xinetron.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.1.5-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: User PPP can not connect to Livingston Portmaster Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi there, I am using FreeBSD 2.1.5 with user PPP. I tried to connect to an ISP through ISDN with a Motorola Bitsurfer Pro ISDN modem. The ISP is using Livingston Portmaster access unit. I can dial in and get connected, but I can not set up any TCP/IP connection. If you have any suggestion, please e-mail me. I appreciate your help! It seems that the user PPP has exchanged the authentication codes successfully with the PPP server, but they have not set up any network level connection. I used the same configuration to dial into a FreeBSD box running kernel PPP. There is no such problem. PS. I can use the same modem, the same ISDN phone number to connect a Windows 95 box to the ISP with the Dial-up Networking function of Win 95. --------------------------- ppp.conf file: isp: set device /dev/cuaa1 set speed 115200 disable lqr deny lqr set redial 10 4 set dial "ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 25 \"\" AT&F1&C1&D2%A4=0 OK-AT-OK \\dATDT\\T TIMEOUT 70 CONNECT" set phone ******* set ifaddr ***.***.***.***/24 0/0 set authname xxxxxx set authkey yyyyyy disable chap enable pap log: 05-16 14:54:48 [223] LCP: SendConfigAck(Ack-Rcvd) 05-16 14:54:48 [223] MRU 1600 05-16 14:54:48 [223] ACCMAP 00000000 05-16 14:54:48 [223] AUTHPROTO proto = c023 05-16 14:54:48 [223] LCP: state change Ack-Rcvd --> Opend 05-16 14:54:48 [223] LCP: LayerUp 05-16 14:54:48 [223] Phase: Authenticate 05-16 14:54:48 [223] his = c023, mine = c023 05-16 14:54:48 [223] PAP: xxxxx (yyyyy) 05-16 14:54:51 [223] PAP: xxxxx (yyyyy) 05-16 14:54:54 [223] PAP: xxxxx (yyyyy) 05-16 14:54:54 [223] PapInput: ACK 05-16 14:54:54 [223] Received PAP_ACK () 05-16 14:54:54 [223] IPCP: Received Configure Request (1) state = Initial (0) 05-16 14:54:54 [223] IPCP: Oops, RCR in Initial. 05-16 14:54:57 [223] IPCP: Received Configure Request (2) state = Initial (0) 05-16 14:54:57 [223] IPCP: Oops, RCR in Initial. 05-16 14:55:00 [223] IPCP: Received Configure Request (3) state = Initial (0) 05-16 14:55:00 [223] IPCP: Oops, RCR in Initial. ccp in phase 2 05-16 14:55:03 [223] IPCP: Received Configure Request (4) state = Initial (0) 05-16 14:55:03 [223] IPCP: Oops, RCR in Initial. ccp in phase 2 05-16 14:55:07 [223] IPCP: Received Configure Request (5) state = Initial (0) 05-16 14:55:07 [223] IPCP: Oops, RCR in Initial. 05-16 14:55:09 [223] IPCP: Received Configure Request (6) state = Initial (0) 05-16 14:55:09 [223] IPCP: Oops, RCR in Initial. 05-16 14:55:12 [223] IPCP: Received Configure Request (7) state = Initial (0) 05-16 14:55:12 [223] IPCP: Oops, RCR in Initial. 05-16 14:55:15 [223] IPCP: Received Configure Request (8) state = Initial (0) 05-16 14:55:15 [223] IPCP: Oops, RCR in Initial. 05-16 14:55:18 [223] IPCP: Received Configure Request (9) state = Initial (0) 05-16 14:55:18 [223] IPCP: Oops, RCR in Initial. 05-16 14:55:21 [223] IPCP: Received Configure Request (10) state = Initial (0) 05-16 14:55:21 [223] IPCP: Oops, RCR in Initial. 05-16 14:55:24 [223] IPCP: Received Configure Request (11) state = Initial (0) 05-16 14:55:24 [223] IPCP: Oops, RCR in Initial. 05-16 14:55:27 [223] IPCP: Received Configure Request (12) state = Initial (0) 05-16 14:55:27 [223] IPCP: Oops, RCR in Initial. 05-16 14:55:31 [223] IPCP: Received Configure Request (13) state = Initial (0) 05-16 14:55:31 [223] IPCP: Oops, RCR in Initial. 05-16 14:55:34 [223] IPCP: Received Configure Request (14) state = Initial (0) 05-16 14:55:34 [223] IPCP: Oops, RCR in Initial. 05-16 14:55:37 [223] IPCP: Received Configure Request (15) state = Initial (0) 05-16 14:55:37 [223] IPCP: Oops, RCR in Initial. 05-16 14:55:40 [223] IPCP: Received Configure Request (16) state = Initial (0) 05-16 14:55:40 [223] IPCP: Oops, RCR in Initial. 05-16 14:55:43 [223] IPCP: Received Configure Request (17) state = Initial (0) 05-16 14:55:43 [223] IPCP: Oops, RCR in Initial. 05-16 14:55:46 [223] IPCP: Received Configure Request (18) state = Initial (0) 05-16 14:55:46 [223] IPCP: Oops, RCR in Initial. 05-16 14:55:48 [223] HDLC errors -> FCS: 1 ADDR: 0 COMD: 0 PROTO: 0 05-16 14:55:49 [223] IPCP: Received Configure Request (19) state = Initial (0) 05-16 14:55:49 [223] IPCP: Oops, RCR in Initial. 05-16 14:55:52 [223] IPCP: Received Configure Request (20) state = Initial (0) 05-16 14:55:52 [223] IPCP: Oops, RCR in Initial. 05-16 14:55:57 [223] Disconnected! 05-16 14:55:57 [223] Connect time: 72 secs 05-16 14:55:57 [223] Phase: Dead 05-16 14:55:57 [223] LCP: LayerDown 05-16 14:55:57 [223] Phase: Terminate 05-16 14:55:57 [223] LCP: state change Opend --> Starting -- Jason Liao --------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 16 17:12:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA28086 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 17:12:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from speedbump.datapark.com (ns1.datapark.com [207.102.240.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA28051 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 17:11:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from k2 (k2.datapark.com [207.102.240.32]) by speedbump.datapark.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA28219 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 17:13:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <337CF7AB.5D9D@datapark.com> Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 17:11:23 -0700 From: Jeff Newton Organization: Tantalus Communications X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Web Server Search Engine Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Anyone know of a decent and free search engine that I can implement on one of my web servers? I'm running apache on a FreeBSD 2.1.7 box. Any advice would be appreciated! Cheers, -- Jeff Newton Network Administrator Tantalus Communications Datapark Advanced Communications (604) 664-7454 ----------------- "It's the world, not a call I can screen out"- Headstones From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 16 17:32:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA28884 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 17:32:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cdc3.cdc.net (nobody@cdc3.cdc.net [205.217.64.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA28849 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 17:32:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by cdc3.cdc.net (Chattanooga Data Connection, Inc. 423/266-3369) id UAA06017 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 20:31:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pm01-29.chattanooga.cdc.net(205.217.65.29), claiming to be "cdc.net.cdc.net" via SMTP by cdc3.cdc.net, id smtpdAAAa001Tw; Fri May 16 20:31:51 1997 Message-ID: <337D2567.3168CB82@cdc.net> Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 20:26:31 -0700 From: zachary garvelink Reply-To: link@cdc.net Organization: none X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b4 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: what in all fies do i need to get for a full to medium ver of freebsd X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk what files do i need to ge to get freebsd running so i can run games and stuf on it From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 16 17:52:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA29662 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 17:52:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from user.xtdl.com (user.xtdl.com [206.25.228.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA29657 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 17:52:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from sderdau@localhost) by user.xtdl.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id VAA10939; Fri, 16 May 1997 21:03:03 -0400 Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 21:03:03 -0400 (EDT) From: "Stephen A. Derdau" To: "Justin T. Gibbs" cc: The Devil Himself , Pat McPartland , FBSD questions Subject: Re: 2.1.5 or 2.2.1 In-Reply-To: <199705152047.OAA19579@pluto.plutotech.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Where can one find 2.2-stable.......? I am searching Freebsd.org's site. They mention stable but not 2.2-stable Looking to upgrade tonight. Hopefully all will go well! Actually thinking postive. All will go well. It usually always does. However, leaving it to my own internvention I may run into trouble. Ooops! Thanks :) > >Go with 2.2.1. > > Then upgrade to and track 2.2-stable. There were plenty of problems, > particularly in the aic7xxx driver that where fixed after 2.2.1 that > make 2.2-stable a better choice. > Where is 2.2-stable.? *****************************************> -- > Justin T. Gibbs > =========================================== > FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations > =========================================== > > > From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 16 17:55:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA29821 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 17:55:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spacehog.structured.net (ppp-dialup7.sns-access.com [206.58.222.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA29816 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 17:55:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spacehog.structured.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spacehog.structured.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA00716; Fri, 16 May 1997 17:55:01 GMT Message-ID: <337C9F75.260693B3@spacehog.structured.net> Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 17:55:01 +0000 From: Justin Ashworth Reply-To: ashworth@cs.montana.edu Organization: Pretty cruddy X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b3C (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-970209-SNAP i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Archie Cobbs CC: Robert Nordier , proot@horton.iaces.com, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: good mail filter program? X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <199705161938.MAA02622@bubba.whistle.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Archie Cobbs wrote: > > > > > I've been using "filter", which used to be part of elm (but seems to > > > > be no more), but it mysteriously dies all the time, causing bounce > > > > messages. So I'm trying to upgrade. > > > > > > > > Any ideas appreciated. > > > > > > Well, there's procmail. I don't know how to use it, but I've seen it > > > recommend many times. > > > > > > However, I've used filter (from elm) for years. And am using it now > > > on FreeBSD with no problems. Did you build your own elm or install the > > > package? The package works fine. > > > > Elm's "filter" has severe problems with buffer overflows. Even some > > messages on the "cvs-all" list have caused it to dump core. > > > > This from the README.ME+ file: > > > > | - Makefile now don't compile or install 'filter' because security > > | problems in it. > > Yes, procmail seems to do the trick. If you want something that's a little easier to use and wouldn't mind changing your mailer, Netscape mail does the trick quite well. I didn't see the original message, so if you listed some constraints that would keep you from doing this, I apologize. Best regards, - Justin Ashworth, Intern -- Structured Network Systems, Inc. --- justin@structured.net From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 16 20:21:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA04696 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 20:21:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shell.dave-world.net (yaning@shell.dave-world.net [204.189.73.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA04684 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 20:21:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from yaning@localhost) by shell.dave-world.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA28704 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 16 May 1997 22:17:36 -0500 (CDT) From: Yaning Wang Message-Id: <199705170317.WAA28704@shell.dave-world.net> Subject: Need some sucessful stories To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 22:17:36 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk My case: Packard Bell Legend 100CD HD1 Western Digital 2.5G, control by EZ drive HD2 Seagate 420M CDROM Matshita CDROM/Panasonic Drive CR-563(connect with a sound card) I have to use EZ drive on HD1 in order to utilize the full capacity of the disk. However, FreeBSD does not like it. It not only does not install on that disk, but also messes up Windows 95 on that disk. The only way I succeeded so far is: to divid HD2 into two part(40M:370M) and use the first part (DOS partition) to install FreeBSD into the second part. This is because FreeBSD does not recognize my CDROM. The installation is little use to me since nothing esle I can install.(can not use CDROM) Worse of all, I can not put BootMgr in HD1 (otherwise, Win95 will not boot. I guess this is caused by EZ Drive), and HD2 has to be slave (otherwise, Win95 on HD1 will not boot neither). Therefore, I simply can not select the OS I want when machine boots. Now, I selectively disconnect HD1 or HD2 to choose either Win95 or FreeBSD :-( (I tried to make HD2 as master. But its DOS partition is too small to install Win95, and HD1 (as slave) has trouble to load EZ Drive) Now I ready to give up. I am considering to have another system for FreeBSD. For all FreeBSD friends: if you have successfully installed FreeBSD 2.2.1 into your systems(with very minimum trouble), please let me know: Machine's brand name HD specification CDROM type Any other info. which might be important. In the two situations: 1. Share disk with Win95 2. FreeBSD alone. Thank you very much -- Yaning Wang ========================================================== TP Analyst Network Service, Systems Technology State Farm Insurance Companies http://homepage.dave-world.net/~yaning From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 16 20:23:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA04789 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 20:23:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ceniai.net.cu (ns.ceniai.net.cu [169.158.128.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA04782 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 20:23:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ceniai.inf.cu by ceniai.net.cu with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0wSNfK-0000TMC; Fri, 16 May 97 10:07 EDT Received: from one.UUCP by ceniai.inf.cu with UUCP (Smail3.1.29.1) id m0wSJsT-0002KJC; Fri, 16 May 97 10:04 Received: from intranet.one.gov.cu by one.one.gov.cu with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #12) id m0wSPqt-0001ioC; Fri, 16 May 97 09:27 PDT Received: by intranet.one.gov.cu (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0wSN7g-00002WC; Fri, 16 May 97 09:32 CDT Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 09:32:39 -0400 (CDT) From: Eliezer Rodriguez Gonzalez To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: A question concerning a networking issue. (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greetings from Havana: I have a no-name PCI network interface card (NIC). By saying no-name I mean it is not from one of the well known brands but it is from a so called SURECOM (of Taiwan), it is jumperless. I also have a FreeBSD 2.1.5 box, it is a AMD 486DX4 100 MHz with 16 RAM, an SCSI-II PCI controller Adaptec 2940, a SCSI-II Seagate Hard Disk (1 GB) and a SCSI-II Nec CDROM. Everything works very well but I have some doubts. My new PCI NIC (the one depected above) features popular Ethernet adapter emulation modes such as Novell NE2000, SMC/WD 8013EBT and 3Com EtherLink II/16 share memory access. It also features a mode called Surecom, after the name of the brand. FreeBSD 2.1.5 is not aware of this so called Surecom modes, it also knows certain types of well know PCI NIC's, that's why when probing for devices on pci bus the systems "sees" the NIC but there is no a proper driver to handle it. That's why I reconfigure the NIC to emulate a NE2000, the system then "saw" the NIC but just when probing for devices on the ISA bus, of course using the ed0 driver, it printed out the MAC address and the "type NE2000 (16 bit)".Apparently everything should work fine so far but it did not. So I decided to make a second test and for twice I ran the configuration utility of the NIC to reconfigure the working mode as a SMC/WD 8013 EBT, but with the same IRQ and I/O as before ( 11 & 340h). This time the system also "saw" the card as an ISA device (although it is a PCI ?) and the system printed out the MAC address once again and "type WD 8013 (8 bits)". Finally this time everything worked fine since I was able to ping hosts on my network. But it happens that all these tests achieved confused me a lot. So here you are the quetions I'm asking now: Why although the NIC features a PCI bus, when emulating NE2000 etc the system "sees" the card as an ISA device and not as a PCI ? Does it means that althoug it is inserted in a PCI slot it is no using the 32 bits bandwith of the bus when transferring data to the PC ? I'm sure there are certain knowledge concerning emulation modes I need to know in order to anderstand what happened here. I also would like to know a little bit more about the different techniques use by NIC's in order to transfer data from itself to the computer so is there is any "paper" in the internet covering that issue I would like to know where it is in order to obtain a copy. My apologies for bothering you with such questions but since I'm running FreeBSD I don't have any one else to ask them instead. Thanks in advance. Bye. ======================================= Ing. Eliezer Rodriguez Gonzalez Grupo de Redes ONERED Oficina Nacional de Estadisticas E-mail: elie@intranet.one.gov.cu Voz: 30-00-75; 30-50-21 ext: 254 ======================================= From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 16 22:04:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA07786 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 22:04:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from calvin.pitzer.edu (calvin.Pitzer.edu [134.173.112.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA07778 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 22:04:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (brosenga@localhost) by calvin.pitzer.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA18088 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 22:04:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 22:04:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Snob Art Genre To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: SCSI tape drive, 2.1.7, no detection Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am trying to get a SCSI tape drive to detect under 2.1.7. It has no identifying markings, unfortunately. It takes "DDS/90m" 4mm tapes that I am assured hold 4 GB. I connected the drive to my Buslogic BT-948's external mini 50-pin connector, recompiled the kernel with device st0 uncommented, rebooted and -- nothing. It seemed to take a little longer than usual for SCSI devices to settle, but I reboot so infrequently that I can't be sure that's real. I made st0: /dev# ./MAKEDEV st0 /dev# ls st* st0ctl.0 st0ctl.2 stderr stdout st0ctl.1 st0ctl.3 stdin The tape drive is terminated. It has a little window with a "4" in it, which I take to mean that it's configured to show up as SCSI device 4. I don't have anything else at SCSI id 4. Is there any help for me? Ben From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 16 22:35:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA08780 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 22:35:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from yarrina.connect.com.au (yarrina.connect.com.au [192.189.54.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA08769 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 22:35:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aardvark (aardvark.apana.org.au [203.12.237.49]) by yarrina.connect.com.au with ESMTP id PAA03198 (8.8.5/IDA-1.6); Sat, 17 May 1997 15:35:23 +1000 (EST) Received: from solsbury-hill.home (dialup-2.aardvark.apana.org.au [203.12.237.65]) by aardvark (8.8.4/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA26854; Sat, 17 May 1997 15:35:20 +1000 Received: from solsbury-hill.home (localhost.home [127.0.0.1]) by solsbury-hill.home (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA00397; Sat, 17 May 1997 14:53:58 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <199705170453.OAA00397@solsbury-hill.home> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0beta 12/23/96 From: Joel Sutton To: Stick cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD, is it for me? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 15 May 1997 05:02:53 MST." <337AFB6D.6422@razorlogic.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 14:53:57 +1000 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I was thinking of hosting my own Internet site using my computer, is > that possible using FreeBSD? If so what else will I need to make this > possible? It sure is. Most of the server software that you might need (www, ftp etc..) are included in the ports collection. Sendmail (for email), telnet and other bits and pieces like that come with the system. > The university that i am attending run three unix base systems for their > web server, e-mail, and other stuff. If i had FreeBSD, is there a way > that i connect to their computers? There are various comm programs (like HyperTerminal or Telix) available or you could use a TCP/IP connection with a PPP dialup line or Ethernet. > The classes i am taking at this university have my using unix on > occasions, could i use FreeBSD on my computer to learn more and do some > of my work on my computer rather than using Hyper Terminal (W95) to > connect to the Universities computers? Yes you could. You can even set up a dual boot system so that you can use Windows 95 or FreeBSD as required. You should check with your school as to what sort of UNIX they run. Some versions of UNIX can be quite different but it depends on what you're doing at school as to whether there will be any major compatibility problems. I found that setting up FreeBSD on my home machine (a 386 with 8 meg of RAM then) was reasonably easy and the experience I gained from just "making it work how I wanted it to" has been very useful at school and at work. Plus, if you have a problem with your system you can send email to this list to get assistance. Unless its a really though one, the reply time is usually pretty short. I hope this helps, Joel... From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 16 22:36:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA08873 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 22:36:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from yarrina.connect.com.au (yarrina.connect.com.au [192.189.54.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA08866 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 22:36:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aardvark (aardvark.apana.org.au [203.12.237.49]) by yarrina.connect.com.au with ESMTP id PAA03272 (8.8.5/IDA-1.6); Sat, 17 May 1997 15:36:27 +1000 (EST) Received: from solsbury-hill.home (dialup-2.aardvark.apana.org.au [203.12.237.65]) by aardvark (8.8.4/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA31858; Sat, 17 May 1997 15:36:20 +1000 Received: from solsbury-hill.home (localhost.home [127.0.0.1]) by solsbury-hill.home (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA10121; Sat, 17 May 1997 01:05:03 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <199705161505.BAA10121@solsbury-hill.home> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0beta 12/23/96 From: Joel Sutton To: tomt@infospeedway.net cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mailto:questions@freebsd.org Jed In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 14 May 1997 12:41:48 EST." <199705141741.MAA24382@pacecar.infospeedway.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 01:05:02 +1000 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I have been trying to setup "jed" on a freebsd server for use at work. > I can get it to run, but it is not using color coding like the same > editor does on my pc at home running linux. I'm not a JED person unfortunately. But I can tell you that a JED port has been submitted and should, hopefully, be available in the CURRENT ports collection soon. Cheers, Joel... From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 16 22:37:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA08892 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 22:37:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from yarrina.connect.com.au (yarrina.connect.com.au [192.189.54.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA08887 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 22:37:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aardvark (aardvark.apana.org.au [203.12.237.49]) by yarrina.connect.com.au with ESMTP id PAA03263 (8.8.5/IDA-1.6); Sat, 17 May 1997 15:36:20 +1000 (EST) Received: from solsbury-hill.home (dialup-2.aardvark.apana.org.au [203.12.237.65]) by aardvark (8.8.4/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA31575; Sat, 17 May 1997 15:36:16 +1000 Received: from solsbury-hill.home (localhost.home [127.0.0.1]) by solsbury-hill.home (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA10148; Sat, 17 May 1997 01:10:00 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <199705161510.BAA10148@solsbury-hill.home> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0beta 12/23/96 From: Joel Sutton To: spork cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CVS/ports question In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 14 May 1997 14:47:58 GMT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 01:10:00 +1000 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > So my question is, can I use CVSUP to get ports-2.2?? I really like > having everything local. I also noticed that dependancies are now fetched > automatically, which is very nice... I'm sure its possible but I believe that only the current ports collection is maintained. So ports-2.2 probably won't change that often, if at all. I hope this helps, Joel... From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 16 22:37:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA08944 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 22:37:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from yarrina.connect.com.au (yarrina.connect.com.au [192.189.54.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA08926 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 22:37:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aardvark (aardvark.apana.org.au [203.12.237.49]) by yarrina.connect.com.au with ESMTP id PAA03238 (8.8.5/IDA-1.6); Sat, 17 May 1997 15:36:10 +1000 (EST) Received: from solsbury-hill.home (dialup-2.aardvark.apana.org.au [203.12.237.65]) by aardvark (8.8.4/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA30564; Sat, 17 May 1997 15:36:04 +1000 Received: from solsbury-hill.home (localhost.home [127.0.0.1]) by solsbury-hill.home (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA00382; Sat, 17 May 1997 14:52:17 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <199705170452.OAA00382@solsbury-hill.home> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0beta 12/23/96 From: Joel Sutton To: Daniel Hamilton cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 14 May 1997 13:47:37 +0300." <33799849.23EE@barcode.co.il> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 14:52:17 +1000 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Daniel, > > I am interested in becoming a user/developer of FreeBSD. I am an OS > > fanatic that collects every version of every OS that I can get my hands > > on...in doing so I've seen some pretty useless OSes...but FreeBSD is not > > one of them. Useless is OS/2 2.0. I would really appreciate any > > infromation you could give me about it, including how to get it, and what > > kind of compilers/languages used with this OS. > > Take a look at http://www.freebsd.org. You can download it or get it on > CD for ~$50 including shipping. You get C/C++, Fortran, Ada, Perl, > Tcl/Tk, lisp and who knows what else... Look in the ports collection. There are also an increasing number of emulators available in the CURRENT ports collection. These include C/PM, DOS and Apple IIGS - with Atari 800 and Atari 2600 on the way - to name a few. I'll bet there is at least one OS that you don't have a copy of in there somewhere. :-) Check out the software section of the website mentioned above. Cheers, Joel... From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 16 22:38:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA09038 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 22:38:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from yarrina.connect.com.au (yarrina.connect.com.au [192.189.54.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA08979 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 22:37:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aardvark (aardvark.apana.org.au [203.12.237.49]) by yarrina.connect.com.au with ESMTP id PAA03256 (8.8.5/IDA-1.6); Sat, 17 May 1997 15:36:18 +1000 (EST) Received: from solsbury-hill.home (dialup-2.aardvark.apana.org.au [203.12.237.65]) by aardvark (8.8.4/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA31163; Sat, 17 May 1997 15:36:11 +1000 Received: from solsbury-hill.home (localhost.home [127.0.0.1]) by solsbury-hill.home (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA00367; Sat, 17 May 1997 14:51:30 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <199705170451.OAA00367@solsbury-hill.home> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0beta 12/23/96 From: Joel Sutton To: ballhog@firstnethou.com cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD - why?? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 13 May 1997 16:12:06 EST." <3378D926.1193@firstnethou.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 14:51:30 +1000 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I am currently running Win95, what i would like to know is, why would i > want to change OS's? I know win95 has some quirks, but i also know it > worked fine. Why is THE question and only you can really answer it. If your current setup does everything you want then you probably don't need to change anything. > I would also like to know, would FreeBSD be able to run normal dos based > software, i am assuming it won't since it is UNIX based. If it can't, > then what exactly should i get FreeBSD for? The most stable dos emulation software only runs text based applications. There are other emulators available but UNIX based applications is where FreeBSD is at. > This is my situation, i am ALLWAYS on the net, i'n sort of hooked. I > also play lot's of games via network card with my roomate, ie... > Warcraft, Diablo' Domm etc.. etc.. I would like to remain able to > connect to the internet and run Netscape etc... and play those games > etc... and i just bought a Connectix Quickcam for use with CuSeeMe, so i > would really like to continue enjoying these things. Check out the Software section of the FreeBSD web site to see what is available (www.freebsd.org). > Can FreeBSD do any of this? and in your honest opinion, should i trash > Win95 and go with FreeBSD? I'm open-minded, i'll try anything if it > will work with all the things i like to do. Some it can - some it cannot. From your message it sounds like your setup does everything you want so stick with it as it is. Thats MY opinion. ;-> Why is the BIG question. I changed from DOS/Windows to FreeBSD because I wanted an operating system that was stable, fast, logical and programmable - at a minimum cost. Dollar figures aside, Windows couldn't do that for me. I hope this helps you with your decision. Cheers, Joel... From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 16 22:39:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA09140 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 22:39:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from yarrina.connect.com.au (yarrina.connect.com.au [192.189.54.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA09131 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 22:39:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aardvark (aardvark.apana.org.au [203.12.237.49]) by yarrina.connect.com.au with ESMTP id PAA03250 (8.8.5/IDA-1.6); Sat, 17 May 1997 15:36:15 +1000 (EST) Received: from solsbury-hill.home (dialup-2.aardvark.apana.org.au [203.12.237.65]) by aardvark (8.8.4/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA30855; Sat, 17 May 1997 15:36:07 +1000 Received: from solsbury-hill.home (localhost.home [127.0.0.1]) by solsbury-hill.home (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA00355; Sat, 17 May 1997 14:50:10 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <199705170450.OAA00355@solsbury-hill.home> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0beta 12/23/96 From: Joel Sutton To: Joseph Stein cc: FreeBSD Questions List Subject: Re: Pager gateway? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 10 May 1997 19:52:51 MST." <199705110431.VAA02567@joes.users.spiritone.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 14:50:10 +1000 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Joe, > I would like to write myself (in fact, I have) a script that will send > the Date, From, and Subject of messages in my incoming mail spool. > > I thought I could do it with chat, but apparently cannot (chat keeps reading > from the file and doing the send-expect thing). Here's a little perl script that might get you started: [snip] #!/usr/bin/perl while () { chop ; $date = $_ if /^[Dd]ate:/ ; $from = $_ if /^[Ff]rom:/ ; $subject = $_ if /^[Ss]ubject:/ ; } open (PAGER, "|/usr/bin/write jsutton") ; printf (PAGER "$date\n$from\n$subject\n") ; close (PAGER) ; [snip] You will need to add something like this into your .forward file: "|/usr/local/bin/perl /usr/home/jsutton/src/pager.pl ||exit 75 jsutton" What you decide to do with the date, from and subject variables after the open statement is left for you to decide. You could easily re-mail it to a pager gateway with /usr/bin/mail but be careful of using the variables in the open statement (security holes!!). If you really need to process your /var/mail/mailfile then I would suggest you use procmail to help you out. It has a great tool called formail which could pipe each individual message to the above script. Not bad for a quick slap-together at 23:30 eh? ;-) Hope this helps, Joel... From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 16 22:42:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA09356 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 22:42:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (root@agora.rdrop.com [199.2.210.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA09350 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 22:42:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from yarrina.connect.com.au (yarrina.connect.com.au [192.189.54.17]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA21309 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 22:42:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aardvark (aardvark.apana.org.au [203.12.237.49]) by yarrina.connect.com.au with ESMTP id PAA03279 (8.8.5/IDA-1.6); Sat, 17 May 1997 15:36:29 +1000 (EST) Received: from solsbury-hill.home (dialup-2.aardvark.apana.org.au [203.12.237.65]) by aardvark (8.8.4/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA32179; Sat, 17 May 1997 15:36:25 +1000 Received: from solsbury-hill.home (localhost.home [127.0.0.1]) by solsbury-hill.home (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA09920; Sat, 17 May 1997 00:04:04 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <199705161404.AAA09920@solsbury-hill.home> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0beta 12/23/96 From: Joel Sutton To: Jochim J ckel cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Your CD-Rom and Fvwm95 In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 11 May 1997 09:13:02 -0400." <199705110913_MC2-165C-9294@compuserve.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 00:04:04 +1000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id WAA09351 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I realized, that you ship with your Fvwm95-port on your 2.2.1 CD-Rom a > "Linux 95"-Logo for the Start-menu. I created a "FreeBSD '95"-Logo with (of > course) a little Chuck-Bitmap. If you are interested in getting this > Xpm-file, please send me a mail. If you send it to the maintainer of the fvwm-95 port, with a nice message ;-), I'm sure they'll include it. Check the fvwm-95 port makefile for the email address. Failing that you could use send-pr to submit a problem report (see handbook on how to do that one). Cheers, Joel... From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 16 22:51:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA09741 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 22:51:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iron.Te.NeT.UA (root@iron.Te.NeT.UA [195.138.80.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA09726 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 22:51:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from adsum (d175.TeNeT.Odessa.UA [195.138.80.175]) by iron.Te.NeT.UA (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id IAA01972; Sat, 17 May 1997 08:49:52 +0300 Message-Id: <199705170549.IAA01972@iron.Te.NeT.UA> From: "Sergey Pukach" To: Cc: Subject: Re: Help with man and sc0 console Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 08:48:10 +0300 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > From: Brian H. Nelson > To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Help with man and sc0 console > Date: Saturday, May 17, 1997 5:54 > what 'flags' can be used in the MYKERNEL file to make sc0 have a > blinking > underline curser? i used 0x02 and got a blinking block but id like > underline if its > possible... and what are all the flags in general for the sc0 device? i > dont know where You don't need recompile your kernel. In /etc/sysconfig find string "cursor" and set "cursor=destructive". pss // Sergey Pukach // pss@te.net.ua From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 16 23:04:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA10077 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 23:04:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rawspace.rawspace.com (root@[204.248.170.202]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA10070 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 23:04:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from luma1 (p5-term3-ind.netdirect.net [204.248.210.94]) by rawspace.rawspace.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA22795 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 01:04:21 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970517010213.00752d10@lumasoft.com> X-Sender: jacobcaz@lumasoft.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 01:02:16 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org From: Jacob Cazzell Subject: New release 2.2.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Ok, I'm new to FreeBSD (and I love it so far) and I'm having a problem with the AHA2940 and a heavily loaded server. So I want to upgrade to 2.2.2 'The Stealth Release' ;) Being a rather new user of FreeBSB what would be the best (i.e. easy and safe) to upgrade? I don't need step-by-step but a broad overview of the proper way to do this would be nice. Thanks so much for a great OS! Sincerely, Jacob Cazzell jacobcaz@lumasoft.com From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 16 23:14:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA10410 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 23:14:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kevin.sunshine.net ([204.191.205.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA10405 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 23:14:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (cagey@localhost) by kevin.sunshine.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA08726; Fri, 16 May 1997 23:10:23 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 23:10:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Kevin Eliuk Reply-To: Kevin Eliuk To: Yaning Wang cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Need some sucessful stories In-Reply-To: <199705170317.WAA28704@shell.dave-world.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Here's something I wish I would have read prior to my last install. --- If you just want to use the disk with FreeBSD you don't need a disk manager. Just configure the disk for as much space as the BIOS can deal with (usually 504 megabytes), and FreeBSD should figure out how much space you really have. If you're using an old disk with an MFM controller, you may need to explicitly tell FreeBSD how many cylinders to use. If you want to use the disk with FreeBSD and another operating system, you may be able to do without a disk manager: just make sure the the FreeBSD boot partition and the slice for the other operating system are in the first 1024 cylinders. FreeBSD FAQ's 2.13 But before going anywhere with this I recommend that you read the documentation on Multi OS at: http://www.freebsd.org/docs.html On Fri, 16 May 1997, Yaning Wang wrote: >My case: >Packard Bell Legend 100CD >HD1 Western Digital 2.5G, control by EZ drive >HD2 Seagate 420M >CDROM Matshita CDROM/Panasonic Drive CR-563(connect with a sound card) > >I have to use EZ drive on HD1 in order to utilize the full capacity >of the disk. However, FreeBSD does not like it. It not only does not >install on that disk, but also messes up Windows 95 on that disk. >The only way I succeeded so far is: to divid HD2 into two part(40M:370M) >and use the first part (DOS partition) to install FreeBSD into the second >part. This is because FreeBSD does not recognize my CDROM. The installation >is little use to me since nothing esle I can install.(can not use CDROM) >Worse of all, I can not put BootMgr in HD1 (otherwise, Win95 will not boot. >I guess this is caused by EZ Drive), and HD2 has to be slave (otherwise, >Win95 on HD1 will not boot neither). Therefore, I simply can not select >the OS I want when machine boots. Now, I selectively disconnect HD1 or HD2 >to choose either Win95 or FreeBSD :-( >(I tried to make HD2 as master. But its DOS partition is too small to >install Win95, and HD1 (as slave) has trouble to load EZ Drive) _______________________________________ |\ /| | \ kevin_eliuk@sunshine.net / | My manhood shouldn't be | \ Kevin G. Eliuk / | measured by the length | /^\_________________________/^\ | of my run on sentences. | / \ | |/--===### Powered By FreeBSD 2.2.1 \| | www.freebsd.org | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 16 23:51:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA11929 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 23:51:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from luke.cpl.net ([206.85.245.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA11924 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 23:51:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (shawn@localhost) by luke.cpl.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA09008; Fri, 16 May 1997 23:51:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 23:51:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Shawn Ramsey To: "Jay D. Nelson" cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: smtp server? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I have installed the macros from informatik. You need > /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail to get the .mc files which is where these > belong. You must rebuild your sendmail.cf file from the mc sources. If > you haven't installed all sources, you'll at least have to install that. > See /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/README for details. > > The test script "chkspam", available at the same site, suggests that the > macros are working, although I've seen nothing yet to confirm they are. > (I've only had it in about a week.) I downloaded the sources, and was able to generate a sendmail.cf config from the .mc file. I tried the code from informatik. It worked too well! I didnt try sending it from the actual machine the smtp server was on, but I tried sending mail from one of our NT machines and it said access denied! :( Did I miss something? Can I have it deny EVERYONE except a certain IP range access to relay? Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 17 01:27:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA14455 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 17 May 1997 01:27:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.barcode.co.il (gatekeeper.barcode.co.il [192.116.93.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA14450 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 01:27:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nadav@localhost) by gatekeeper.barcode.co.il (8.8.5/8.6.12) id LAA07376; Sat, 17 May 1997 11:26:57 +0300 (IDT) Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 11:26:56 +0300 (IDT) From: Nadav Eiron To: Michael Nichols cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cd-rom In-Reply-To: <199705162142.RAA05343@onyx.xtalwind.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 16 May 1997, Michael Nichols wrote: > I'm trying to install free BSD, but its not finding my cd-rom. I have a > Sound Blaster Discovery 8x CD-ROM Kit, it also comes with a SB 32 PnP sound > card. I used the visual Kernel config option, and adjusted the hardware > settings to what I thought they were. I have windows 95, being that it > adjusts the hardware/software to whatever it wants, so I'm not quite > sure.. Help..... > > Thank You... > > I'll bet this CDROM is an ATAPI (IDE) CDROM. If so, *don't* connect it to the SoundBlaster, but rather as either the slave on the primary IDE controller (with your hard disk) or as the master on the secondary IDE controller. FreeBSD will then probably pick it up just fine. Make sure you have the CD in the drive when you boot. Nadav From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 17 02:34:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA16451 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 17 May 1997 02:34:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.pi.net (root@mailhost.pi.net [145.220.3.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA16446 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 02:33:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Amigo (gn107.pi.net [145.220.201.107]) by mailhost.pi.net (8.8.3/8.7.1) with SMTP id LAA28834 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 11:33:54 +0200 (MET DST) Posted-Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 11:33:54 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <337D7BB3.41C67EA6@pobox.com> Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 09:34:43 +0000 From: Wouter de Boer Organization: Planet Internet X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Subject: SCSI host adapters Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I looking to some options of "/usr/src/sys/i386/conf/LINT". And I see the SCSI host adapter some undefined drivers. The drivers: nca1, nca2, nca3, nca4. When to use these drivers, an d when to use the defined driver nca0. What is the difference between thses drivers ?? And comparing LINY and GENERIC in the same directory, I see a difference between driver nca1 and nca4. In GENERIC: nca1: controller nca1 at isa? port 0x350 bio irq 5 vector ncaintr In LINT: nca1: controller nca1 at isa? port 0x1f84 nca4: controller nca4 at isa? port 0x350 bio irq 5 vector ncaintr Which one is the correct one?? Can anybody tell me the truth about these SCSI adapter cards ?? Thanks, Wouter From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 17 02:50:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA16783 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 17 May 1997 02:50:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay2.mail.uk.psi.net (sys1.london.uk.psi.net [154.32.108.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA16778 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 02:50:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sys4.cambridge.uk.psi.net (sys4.cambridge.uk.psi.net [154.32.106.14]) by relay2.mail.uk.psi.net (8.8.4/) with ESMTP id KAA16425 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 10:50:20 +0100 (BST) Received: by sys4.cambridge.uk.psi.net (8.7.5/SMI-5.5-UKPSINet) id KAA25168; Sat, 17 May 1997 10:44:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from infodev.nadt.org.uk (infodev.nadt.org.uk [194.155.224.205]) by charlie.nadt.org.uk (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA25470 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 10:20:23 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19970517092023.006de3e4@wrcmail> X-Sender: robmel@wrcmail X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 10:20:23 +0100 To: questions@freebsd.org From: Robin Melville Subject: 1) deploying FreeBSD Versions, 2) IPX? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Two questions: 1) I've successfully used cvsup to bring a new 2.2.1_RELENG box up to scratch. I have 4 other hosts which need upgrading from 2.1.0 and 2.1.7 to 2.2.1, but without the benefit of internet access. Can I create a "release" on the upgraded box to enable me to reinstall the other boxes over my internal network? 2) I notice that the 2.2.1 box can have IPX enabled in the kernel. The LINT file is a little coy about this. Can anyone tell me what the status of this is... is it working reliably, or an experimental feature? Many thanks for any help you can give me. Robin. -------------------------------------------------------- Robin Melville, Addiction & Forensic Information Service Nottingham Alcohol & Drug Team (Extn. 49178) Vox: +44 (0)115 952 9478 Fax: +44 (0)115 952 9421 Email: robmel@nadt.org.uk WWW: http://www.innotts.co.uk/nadt/ --------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 17 03:29:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA17510 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 17 May 1997 03:29:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de (helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de [141.31.166.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA17505 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 03:29:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from helbig@localhost) by helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA12685; Sat, 17 May 1997 12:28:42 +0200 (MET DST) From: Wolfgang Helbig Message-Id: <199705171028.MAA12685@helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de> Subject: Re: Help with man and sc0 console In-Reply-To: <337D1DFB.56E0@datakinetics.com> from "Brian H. Nelson" at "May 16, 97 07:54:52 pm" To: bhn@datakinetics.com Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 12:28:40 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL30 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Two quick things... > > Man wont work for me > i get something like > > MAN: cannot access file /etc/manpath.config > > the config file is there and looks right... it hasnt worked since > installation.. but > i havent changed anything that (i think) wouldve affected it... Does /etc/manpath.config have the read permission for all users? To make sure do # chmod a+r /etc/manpath.config Wolfgang From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 17 03:38:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA19580 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 17 May 1997 03:38:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from student.unpar.ac.id ([167.205.206.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA19513 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 03:38:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (thomas@localhost) by student.unpar.ac.id (8.8.5/8.8.5.2) with SMTP id RAA06188 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 17:58:12 +0700 (JAVT) Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 17:58:12 +0700 (JAVT) From: Thomas Wahyudi To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Mshell Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk hi folks, I new about freebsd system, I have a problem with mshell, 'couse if I run it, it will clear screen so I can't see what happen, but input from keyboard is work Best regard, from #### # Thomas Wahyudi # # # # thomas@student.unpar.ac.id # ## ## http://student.unpar.ac.id/~thomas -=-=-=-=-=PARAHYANGAN UNIVERSITY=-=-=-=-=-=- From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 17 06:07:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA23248 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 17 May 1997 06:07:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kerouac.deepwell.com (kerouac.deepwell.com [207.212.140.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA23243 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 06:07:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dnyce_nt ([207.212.140.184]) by kerouac.deepwell.com (post.office MTA v2.0 0813 ID# 0-12198) with SMTP id AAA164 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 06:01:23 -0700 Message-ID: <337D3D1D.5FCA@sduteam.com> Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 06:07:41 +0100 From: Derek Leung X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Backup problem with HP Colorado T4000s Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I am a newbie to Backup system on Freebsd. I just wonder how do I make back up to the HP Colorado T4000s tape drive? When I type mt -f /dev/rst0 fsf 1 , FreeBsd reply : st0(ahc0:2:0) Illegal Request asc:20,0 Invalid command operation code st0(ahc0:2:0) Blank Check req 52:1(decimal) asc:0,5 End of data detected I can't dump any files to the tape drive nor restore. I just wonder what the problem is? And how do I erase previous backup when the tape is full? For the incremental backup, how does it work? I am sorry that I am really new to the backup system, sorry for all this stupid questions. :) I will really appreciate for any help. Thanks in advance. rgd, Derek From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 17 06:53:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA24232 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 17 May 1997 06:53:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from buffnet4.buffnet.net (buffnet4.buffnet.net [205.246.19.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA24227 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 06:53:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from buffnet11.buffnet.net (shovey@buffnet11.buffnet.net [205.246.19.55]) by buffnet4.buffnet.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA03779; Sat, 17 May 1997 09:53:51 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 09:53:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve To: Jeff Newton cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Web Server Search Engine In-Reply-To: <337CF7AB.5D9D@datapark.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk htdig - I just found it myself - I forget the URL but it comes right up if you search on it at yahoo. On Fri, 16 May 1997, Jeff Newton wrote: > Anyone know of a decent and free search engine that I can implement on > one of my web servers? I'm running apache on a FreeBSD 2.1.7 box. > > Any advice would be appreciated! > > Cheers, > > -- > Jeff Newton > Network Administrator > Tantalus Communications > Datapark Advanced Communications > (604) 664-7454 > ----------------- > "It's the world, not a call I can screen out"- Headstones > From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 17 07:00:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA24460 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 17 May 1997 07:00:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tok.qiv.com ([204.214.141.211]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA24455 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 07:00:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by tok.qiv.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with UUCP id JAA17256; Sat, 17 May 1997 09:00:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (jdn@localhost) by acp.qiv.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA00320; Sat, 17 May 1997 08:56:24 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: acp.qiv.com: jdn owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 08:56:23 -0500 (CDT) From: "Jay D. Nelson" To: Shawn Ramsey cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: smtp server? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk There is a file called "LocalIP" which goes where ever you told the informatik macros to look for the files. In that file, you put the IP addresses of the machines you want to allow. It works like hosts.lpd. -- Jay On Fri, 16 May 1997, Shawn Ramsey wrote: ->> I have installed the macros from informatik. You need ->> /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail to get the .mc files which is where these ->> belong. You must rebuild your sendmail.cf file from the mc sources. If ->> you haven't installed all sources, you'll at least have to install that. ->> See /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/README for details. ->> ->> The test script "chkspam", available at the same site, suggests that the ->> macros are working, although I've seen nothing yet to confirm they are. ->> (I've only had it in about a week.) -> ->I downloaded the sources, and was able to generate a sendmail.cf config ->from the .mc file. I tried the code from informatik. It worked too well! ->I didnt try sending it from the actual machine the smtp server was on, but ->I tried sending mail from one of our NT machines and it said access ->denied! :( Did I miss something? Can I have it deny EVERYONE except a ->certain IP range access to relay? -> ->Thanks. -> -> -> From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 17 07:35:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA25661 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 17 May 1997 07:35:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iceberg.anchorage.net. (root@iceberg.anchorage.net [207.14.72.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA25652 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 07:35:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aak.anchorage.net (ai-132 [207.14.72.132]) by iceberg.anchorage.net. (8.6.11/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA23634; Sat, 17 May 1997 05:32:51 -0800 Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 20:33:34 -0800 (AKDT) From: Steve Howe X-Sender: abc@aak.anchorage.net To: Wolfgang Helbig cc: bef126@psu.edu, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mouse In-Reply-To: <199705161812.UAA27084@helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 16 May 1997, Wolfgang Helbig wrote: > You have to enable the psm0 driver during kernel configuration time > (or build a custom kernel with psm0 driver enabled) and then configure > the mouse with /stand/sysinstall to be a PS/2 mouse. > > > > > Thank you > > You're welcome > Wolfgang > > > Brian > > bef126@psu.edu and make sure /dev/mouse points to psm0 in /dev ... ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sleep: a sign a caffeine deprivation ... http://www.anchorage.net/~un_x ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 17 07:38:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA25856 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 17 May 1997 07:38:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from horst.bfd.com (horst.bfd.com [204.160.242.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA25851 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 07:38:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harlie.bfd.com (bastion.bfd.com [204.160.242.14]) by horst.bfd.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA25665; Sat, 17 May 1997 07:38:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 07:38:11 -0700 (PDT) From: "Eric J. Schwertfeger" To: Joel Sutton cc: tomt@infospeedway.net, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mailto:questions@freebsd.org Jed In-Reply-To: <199705161505.BAA10121@solsbury-hill.home> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 17 May 1997, Joel Sutton wrote: > > I have been trying to setup "jed" on a freebsd server for use at work. > > I can get it to run, but it is not using color coding like the same > > editor does on my pc at home running linux. > > I'm not a JED person unfortunately. But I can tell you that a JED > port has been submitted and should, hopefully, be available in the > CURRENT ports collection soon. Sorry I missed the original question, being a JED user, and the author of (one of?) the JED port(s). Using the port I created, which I don't think I did anything special for color handling, I've noticed that I automatically get colorization when I'm using the console or an xterm (the 3.2 xterm, which does handle color natively), but I have to "export COLORTERM=Y" in order to get colorization in rxvt. Feel free to contact me about any questions, or if you can't find the port (is the incoming directory readable?) though I'm far from a JED expert. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 17 07:55:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA26368 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 17 May 1997 07:55:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iceberg.anchorage.net. (root@iceberg.anchorage.net [207.14.72.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA26358 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 07:54:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aak.anchorage.net (ai-132 [207.14.72.132]) by iceberg.anchorage.net. (8.6.11/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA23691; Sat, 17 May 1997 05:52:29 -0800 Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 20:53:12 -0800 (AKDT) From: Steve Howe X-Sender: abc@aak.anchorage.net To: zachary garvelink cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: what in all fies do i need to get for a full to medium ver of freebsd In-Reply-To: <337D2567.3168CB82@cdc.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 16 May 1997, zachary garvelink wrote: > what files do i need to ge to get freebsd running so i can run games and > stuf on it you only need the files in ./bin and ./tools/rawrite.exe and ./floppies/boot.flp. if you need X you will have to install that also. the documentation will tell you more (you may want to get boot.flp, boot it up, and check out the info/packages on it). ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sleep: a sign a caffeine deprivation ... http://www.anchorage.net/~un_x ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 17 07:57:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA26508 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 17 May 1997 07:57:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iceberg.anchorage.net. (root@iceberg.anchorage.net [207.14.72.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA26498 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 07:57:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aak.anchorage.net (ai-132 [207.14.72.132]) by iceberg.anchorage.net. (8.6.11/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA23671; Sat, 17 May 1997 05:44:40 -0800 Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 20:45:24 -0800 (AKDT) From: Steve Howe X-Sender: abc@aak.anchorage.net To: "Brian H. Nelson" cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Help with man and sc0 console In-Reply-To: <337D1DFB.56E0@datakinetics.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 16 May 1997, Brian H. Nelson wrote: > Two quick things... > > Man wont work for me > i get something like > > MAN: cannot access file /etc/manpath.config make sure the file exists ... make sure /etc (rwx r-x r-x) and /etc/manpath.conf (rw- r-- r--) have read permissions for you. if all else fails - cat manpage | nroff -man | more > the config file is there and looks right... it hasnt worked since > installation.. but > i havent changed anything that (i think) wouldve affected it... > what 'flags' can be used in the MYKERNEL file to make sc0 have a > blinking > underline curser? i used 0x02 and got a blinking block but id like > underline if its > possible... and what are all the flags in general for the sc0 device? i > dont know where > to find documentation for that. according to /etc/sysconfig, you get normal, blinking, and destructive. > thank you ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sleep: a sign a caffeine deprivation ... http://www.anchorage.net/~un_x ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 17 08:17:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA27395 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 17 May 1997 08:17:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from buffnet4.buffnet.net (buffnet4.buffnet.net [205.246.19.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA27390 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 08:17:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from buffnet11.buffnet.net (shovey@buffnet11.buffnet.net [205.246.19.55]) by buffnet4.buffnet.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA04371 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 11:17:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 11:17:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: merit radius Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Anyone use it? The one in the ports section? I cannot figure out how to get it to produce accounting records. I need to be able to figure out who was on where from when to when. Any help or pointers are appreciated. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 17 10:01:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA01706 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 17 May 1997 10:01:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.northlink.com (root@prescott.northlink.com [206.85.32.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA01698 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 10:01:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from northlink.northlink.com (pm1-26.northlink.com [206.85.32.91]) by smtp.northlink.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA09502; Sat, 17 May 1997 10:01:08 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199705171701.KAA09502@smtp.northlink.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Wilton Hughes" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 10:01:10 -0700 Subject: Can't create boot floppy--disk full Reply-to: unixsa@northlink.com CC: dvester@northlink.com Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk When I follow the directions in the Handbook to create a boot floppy I find that I am asked to copy more data to the floppy than the floppy will hold. What do I do? Following is the part of the code suggested in the Handbook: fdformat -q fd0 disklabel -w -B -b /usr/mdec/fdboot -s /usr/mdec/bootfd /dev/rfd0c fd1440 newfs -t 2 -u 18 -l 1 -c 40 -i 5120 -m 5 -o space /dev/rfd0a mount /dev/fd0a /mnt cp -f /kernels/MINI /mnt # one of many cp commands gzip -c -best /sbin/init > /mnt/sbin/init # one of many gzip commands Before executing all of the gzip commands the disk is full. Wilton Hughes 520-776-8272 3682 Estate Drive Prescott, Arizona 86303-7523 unixsa@northlink.com From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 17 10:08:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA02244 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 17 May 1997 10:08:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mpeks.tomsk.su (mpeks.tomsk.su [193.124.182.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA02218 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 10:07:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by mpeks.tomsk.su (8.6.11/8.6.9) with UUCP id BAA26146 for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 18 May 1997 01:07:20 +0800 Received: (from vas@localhost) by vas.tomsk.su (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA01578 for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 18 May 1997 00:53:14 +0800 (TSD) From: "Victor A. Sudakov" Message-Id: <199705171653.AAA01578@vas.tomsk.su> Subject: Enabling linux emilation in FreeBSD 2.1.6 To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 00:53:13 +0800 (TSD) Organization: Tomsk Region Education Department X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello. If I wish to enable linux emulation on FreeBSD 2.1.6, is it sufficient to: 1) run /usr/bin/linux to install the LKM 2) install the linux_lib from /usr/ports/emulators or am I missing something else? BTW, ELF executables are not supported in the linux emulation that comes with 2.1.6-RELEASE, are they? Thanks a lot. -- Victor Sudakov http://www.tomsk.su/r/persons/vas.htm From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 17 11:15:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA05050 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 17 May 1997 11:15:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from popmail.UCSD.EDU (popmail.ucsd.edu [132.239.1.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA05045 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 11:15:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rclay.extern.ucsd.edu (rclay.extern.ucsd.edu [137.110.38.130]) by popmail.UCSD.EDU (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA11876; Sat, 17 May 1997 11:15:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970517111515.2c17c2d0@popmail.ucsd.edu> X-Sender: rclay@popmail.ucsd.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 11:15:15 -0700 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org From: "Bob Clay, 619/822-0555" Subject: Partitions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm trying to install FreeBSD 2.2.1 on a 486 with a tiny disk (81 MB). It will be a single user system. Any suggestions on partition sizes for /, swap, /var, /usr? Bob Clay From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 17 12:06:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA06629 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 17 May 1997 12:06:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net (mailhost.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA06624 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 12:06:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wakkowar ([207.146.64.135]) by mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with SMTP id AAA23244 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 19:05:47 +0000 Message-ID: <337DFD28.51B2@worldnet.att.net> Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 14:47:04 -0400 From: Jason Reply-To: jlj.mitchell.max@worldnet.att.net Organization: AT&T Worldnet Services X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Reinstalling or Unistalling FreeBSD (but I still am going to use it) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I installed FreeBSD with the Full Development setup and I usually install with custom. Now I'm having full file system problems and want to start from sub-scratch. How do I re/uninstall FreeBSD. DOn't get this wrong but I love FreeBSD:) Jason Mitchell From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 17 12:08:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA06711 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 17 May 1997 12:08:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from super-g.inch.com (super-g.com [204.178.32.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA06706 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 12:08:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (spork@localhost) by super-g.inch.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA04305; Sat, 17 May 1997 15:16:18 GMT Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 15:16:17 +0000 (GMT) From: spork X-Sender: spork@super-g.inch.com To: Francisco Reyes cc: FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: Which newsreader to use? In-Reply-To: <199705160522.BAA19343@federation.addy.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Tin isn't too bad; it's in the ports collection... Some of it's defaults are kind of dumb, though. After you set it up, checkout the tinrc in your home directory and turn on threading. For a easier view, turn on the ansi graphics; it's pretty nice (it will color-code quoted text, email addresses, etc.). Charles On Fri, 16 May 1997, Francisco Reyes wrote: > Could someone tell me the name of an easy to install/use newsreader to > use with FreeBSD. > > I will figure out the installation/use I just need the name of one that > works with authenticating news servers. > > > Thanks. > From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 17 12:31:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA07559 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 17 May 1997 12:31:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from super-g.inch.com (super-g.com [204.178.32.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA07553 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 12:31:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (spork@localhost) by super-g.inch.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA04341; Sat, 17 May 1997 15:39:25 GMT Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 15:39:25 +0000 (GMT) From: spork X-Sender: spork@super-g.inch.com To: Jacob Cazzell cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New release 2.2.2 In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19970517010213.00752d10@lumasoft.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk If I'm following this correctly, if you have 2.2.1 already, a relatively easy way is to download the CVSup binaries (see the handbook entry on "staying current with FBSD) and CVSup with the "RELENG_2_2" tag. From what I understand, that tag is for following 2.2 through all it's various steps of development (ie: if a 2.2.3 comes out, that tag still applies). I did this to track the stable branch of 2.1, and it worked very well. Once you have the new sources (courtesy of cvsup) you can compile and boot a new kernel, and then run a "make world" to bring all your binaries up to date. If I'm wrong, please scream at me. Charles On Sat, 17 May 1997, Jacob Cazzell wrote: > Ok, > > I'm new to FreeBSD (and I love it so far) and I'm having a problem with the > AHA2940 and a heavily loaded server. > > So I want to upgrade to 2.2.2 'The Stealth Release' ;) > > Being a rather new user of FreeBSB what would be the best (i.e. easy and > safe) to upgrade? I don't need step-by-step but a broad overview of the > proper way to do this would be nice. > > Thanks so much for a great OS! > > Sincerely, > > Jacob Cazzell > jacobcaz@lumasoft.com > From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 17 13:38:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA10110 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 17 May 1997 13:38:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cedb.dpcsys.com (cedb.DPCSYS.com [209.25.4.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA10105 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 13:38:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dan@localhost) by cedb.dpcsys.com (8.8.5/8.8.2) with SMTP id UAA20101; Sat, 17 May 1997 20:38:14 GMT Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 13:38:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Busarow To: Steve cc: Jeff Newton , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Web Server Search Engine In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 17 May 1997, Steve wrote: > htdig - I just found it myself - I forget the URL but it comes right up if > you search on it at yahoo. http://htdig.sdsu.edu It's great for searching your own sites. If you have something more ambitious in mind, like a mini-yahoo, check out Harvest http://harvest.transarc.com Dan -- Dan Busarow 714 443 4172 DPC Systems / Beach.Net dan@dpcsys.com Dana Point, California 83 09 EF 59 E0 11 89 B4 8D 09 DB FD E1 DD 0C 82 From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 17 13:45:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA10419 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 17 May 1997 13:45:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from luke.cpl.net ([206.85.245.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA10414 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 13:45:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (shawn@localhost) by luke.cpl.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA12854; Sat, 17 May 1997 13:45:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 13:45:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Shawn Ramsey To: "Jay D. Nelson" cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: smtp server? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > There is a file called "LocalIP" which goes where ever you told the > informatik macros to look for the files. In that file, you put the IP > addresses of the machines you want to allow. It works like hosts.lpd. > > -- Jay Does it matter where the "F{LocalIP} /etc/LocalIP options goes? I have this, and it still disallows everyone to use relay...Including the local machine! :( Thanks... From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 17 13:55:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA10921 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 17 May 1997 13:55:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cedb.dpcsys.com (cedb.DPCSYS.com [209.25.4.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA10915 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 13:55:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dan@localhost) by cedb.dpcsys.com (8.8.5/8.8.2) with SMTP id UAA20154; Sat, 17 May 1997 20:55:29 GMT Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 13:55:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Busarow To: Yaning Wang cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Need some sucessful stories In-Reply-To: <199705170317.WAA28704@shell.dave-world.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 16 May 1997, Yaning Wang wrote: > Packard Bell Legend 100CD > HD1 Western Digital 2.5G, control by EZ drive > HD2 Seagate 420M > CDROM Matshita CDROM/Panasonic Drive CR-563(connect with a sound card) I don't use a drive manager so I have no ideas if this will really work, but.. I suggest making the 420MB drive your C drive with the 2G as D. Partition it with about 60MB for FreeBSD and the rest for DOS. Partition the 2.5G drive to taste (2G FreeBSD, 500M dos :) Install windows Install FreeBSD putting / on the 60MB partition and /var and /usr on the second drive. The root partition really doesn't need much room at all if you give both /var and /usr to their own filesystem. A recent 2.2 install of mine has less than 30M in / You'll probably want to put the swap partition on the second drive to since windows really insists on using drive C for a lot of stuff so that space will be precious. The drive manager *should not* pose a problem when used on the second drive since FreeBSD won't be looking at the bootblocks there. Let me know how it goes. Dan -- Dan Busarow 714 443 4172 DPC Systems / Beach.Net dan@dpcsys.com Dana Point, California 83 09 EF 59 E0 11 89 B4 8D 09 DB FD E1 DD 0C 82 From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 17 13:59:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA11031 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 17 May 1997 13:59:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cedb.dpcsys.com (cedb.DPCSYS.com [209.25.4.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA11026 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 13:59:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dan@localhost) by cedb.dpcsys.com (8.8.5/8.8.2) with SMTP id UAA20159; Sat, 17 May 1997 20:59:33 GMT Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 13:59:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Busarow To: Snob Art Genre cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SCSI tape drive, 2.1.7, no detection In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 16 May 1997, Snob Art Genre wrote: > uncommented, rebooted and -- nothing. It seemed to take a little longer > than usual for SCSI devices to settle, but I reboot so infrequently that I > can't be sure that's real. So what does dmesg say? Does the tape show up in the probes? Dan -- Dan Busarow 714 443 4172 DPC Systems / Beach.Net dan@dpcsys.com Dana Point, California 83 09 EF 59 E0 11 89 B4 8D 09 DB FD E1 DD 0C 82 From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 17 14:03:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA11169 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 17 May 1997 14:03:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de (helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de [141.31.166.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA11164 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 14:03:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from helbig@localhost) by helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA00622; Sat, 17 May 1997 23:02:55 +0200 (MET DST) From: Wolfgang Helbig Message-Id: <199705172102.XAA00622@helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de> Subject: Re: Partitions In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.16.19970517111515.2c17c2d0@popmail.ucsd.edu> from "Bob Clay, 619/822-0555" at "May 17, 97 11:15:15 am" To: rclay@ucsd.edu (Bob Clay, 619/822-0555) Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 23:02:54 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL30 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I'm trying to install FreeBSD 2.2.1 on a 486 with a tiny disk (81 MB). It > will be a single user system. Any suggestions on partition sizes for /, > swap, /var, /usr? Try the default suggested by the installation program. The swap should be at least as big as the memory. Wolfgang From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 17 14:17:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA12144 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 17 May 1997 14:17:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (root@agora.rdrop.com [199.2.210.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA12139 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 14:17:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de (helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de [141.31.166.22]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA13712 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 14:17:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from helbig@localhost) by helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA00643; Sat, 17 May 1997 23:16:33 +0200 (MET DST) From: Wolfgang Helbig Message-Id: <199705172116.XAA00643@helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de> Subject: Re: Reinstalling or Unistalling FreeBSD (but I still am going to use it) In-Reply-To: <337DFD28.51B2@worldnet.att.net> from Jason at "May 17, 97 02:47:04 pm" To: jlj.mitchell.max@worldnet.att.net Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 23:16:32 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL30 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I installed FreeBSD with the Full Development setup and I usually > install with custom. Now I'm having full file system problems and want > to start from sub-scratch. How do I re/uninstall FreeBSD. DOn't get this > wrong but I love FreeBSD:) So do I, after I reinstalled it three times :-) (with periods of fighting with my Linux Distribution in between)! I put all the customized files (kernel configuration file, /etc/sysconfig ..) in my home directory and saved it on a floppy. # tar -czf /dev/fd0 . ^ my home directory and then I restarted inserted boot.flp, reboot. During intallation I selected to make new filesystems on all partitions to get rid of the old files. Wolfgang From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 17 14:31:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA12947 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 17 May 1997 14:31:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cedb.dpcsys.com (cedb.DPCSYS.com [209.25.4.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA12936 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 14:31:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dan@localhost) by cedb.dpcsys.com (8.8.5/8.8.2) with SMTP id VAA20323; Sat, 17 May 1997 21:31:02 GMT Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 14:31:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Busarow To: Shawn Ramsey cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: smtp server? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 17 May 1997, Shawn Ramsey wrote: > Does it matter where the "F{LocalIP} /etc/LocalIP options goes? I have > this, and it still disallows everyone to use relay...Including the local > machine! :( It needs to come before check_rcpt and outside of any other rule. Put it immediately before Scheck_rcpt like the example. F{LocalIP} /etc/LocalIP Scheck_rcpt R$+ $: $(dequote "" $&{client_addr} $) $| $1 R0 $| $* $@ ok no client addr: directly invoked R$={LocalIP}$* $| $* $@ ok from here LocalIP allows a lot of short cuts in the rest of the rule, basically short circuiting it if the machine is local. It's very important to making this version work. Remember to include 127.0.0 Dan -- Dan Busarow 714 443 4172 DPC Systems / Beach.Net dan@dpcsys.com Dana Point, California 83 09 EF 59 E0 11 89 B4 8D 09 DB FD E1 DD 0C 82 From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 17 14:51:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA14998 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 17 May 1997 14:51:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pcpsj.pfcs.com (ArYennwvjqyJCdrq4wcg+WLSw1siv7Im@harlan.fred.net [205.252.219.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA14990 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 14:51:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mumps.pfcs.com (mumps.pfcs.com [192.52.69.11]) by pcpsj.pfcs.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA22685 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 17:51:25 -0400 Received: from localhost by mumps.pfcs.com with SMTP id AA04177 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 17 May 1997 17:51:24 -0400 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: What tag is 2.2-stable on? Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 17:51:22 -0300 Message-Id: <4175.863905882@mumps.pfcs.com> From: Harlan Stenn Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I heard somebody (Joerg?) say that tracking 2.2-stable is a Good Thing. However, reading the cvs supfile for stable in -current grabs: *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_2_1_0 which identifies itself as 2.1-STABLE. What tag do I want to use to track 2.2-stable? Thanks... H From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 17 15:07:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA16854 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 17 May 1997 15:07:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (root@agora.rdrop.com [199.2.210.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA16848 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 15:07:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from infolane.com (banquo.infolane.com [207.88.42.6]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA15884 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 14:57:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost by infolane.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA14759; Sat, 17 May 1997 14:56:52 -0700 Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 14:56:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Haro To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Help!!! - Something is wrong Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have a Pentium 200 with 32MB ram and 2 250MB ide hard disks. I installed FreeBSD 2.2.1. I was trying to untar a file and every time I typed "tar -xf tarfile.tar" tar would core dump. Then I would reboot the system and tar would work, but gcc would stop working. Any idea what is wrong or what I can do to fix this problem? Everytime I reboot, something works and something stops working. Thanks for your help, Michael From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 17 15:11:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA17251 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 17 May 1997 15:11:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.xinetron.com (www.xinetron.com [206.86.215.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA17246 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 15:11:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pop.xinetron.com (pop.xinetron.com [206.86.215.82]) by www.xinetron.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA03155; Sat, 17 May 1997 15:10:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jason.xinetron.com (jason.xinetron.com [206.86.215.94]) by pop.xinetron.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA15007; Sat, 17 May 1997 15:10:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <337E2CCE.27E7@xinetron.com> Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 15:10:22 -0700 From: Jason Liao Reply-To: jasonl@xinetron.com Organization: Xinetron, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG CC: "Joshua M. Free" Subject: User PPP works! (Was: User PPP can not connect to Livingston Portmaster) References: <337CF5CB.41C67EA6@xinetron.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Jason Liao wrote: > > Hi there, > > I am using FreeBSD 2.1.5 with user PPP. I tried to connect to an ISP > through ISDN with a Motorola Bitsurfer Pro ISDN modem. The ISP is using > Livingston Portmaster access unit. I can dial in and get connected, but > I can not set up any TCP/IP connection. If you have any suggestion, > please e-mail me. I appreciate your help! > > It seems that the user PPP has exchanged the authentication codes > successfully with the PPP server, but they have not set up any network > level connection. I used the same configuration to dial into a FreeBSD > box running kernel PPP. There is no such problem. > > PS. I can use the same modem, the same ISDN phone number to connect a > Windows 95 box to the ISP with the Dial-up Networking function of Win > 95. > > --------------------------- > ppp.conf file: > isp: > set device /dev/cuaa1 > set speed 115200 > disable lqr > deny lqr > set redial 10 4 > set dial "ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 25 \"\" > AT&F1&C1&D2%A4=0 OK-AT-OK \\dATDT\\T TIMEOUT 70 CONNECT" > set phone ******* > set ifaddr ***.***.***.***/24 0/0 > set authname xxxxxx > set authkey yyyyyy > disable chap > enable pap > I finally made it work. The key point is the "accept pap" line in the ppp.conf file. I used "accept pap" instead of "enable pap" to make it work. "accept pap" means I use PAP to authenticate myself to the server, while "enable pap" means I ask the server using PAP to authenticate it to me. New ppp.conf: ################################################################# # # PPP Configuration File # # Written by Toshiharu OHNO # Modified by Jason Liao # # $Id: ppp.conf,v 1.3.4.3 1996/06/17 09:17:50 jasonl Exp $ # ################################################################# # # ISP # isp: set device /dev/cuaa1 set speed 115200 disable lqr deny lqr disable vjcomp deny vjcomp set redial 10 4 set timeout 300 set dial "ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 25 \"\" AT&F1&C1&D2%A4=0 OK-AT-OK \\dATDT\\T TIMEOUT 70 CONNECT" set phone ******* set ifaddr 123.45.67.89/24 123.45.67.98/0 add 0 0 123.45.67.98 set openmode passive disable chap disable pap accept chap accept pap set authname xxxxxxx set authkey yyyyyyy -- --------------------- Jason Liao --------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 17 16:34:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA19393 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 17 May 1997 16:34:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from calvin.pitzer.edu (calvin.Pitzer.edu [134.173.112.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA19388 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 16:34:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (brosenga@localhost) by calvin.pitzer.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA27991; Sat, 17 May 1997 16:34:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 16:34:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Snob Art Genre To: Dan Busarow cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SCSI tape drive, 2.1.7, no detection In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 17 May 1997, Dan Busarow wrote: > On Fri, 16 May 1997, Snob Art Genre wrote: > > uncommented, rebooted and -- nothing. It seemed to take a little longer > > than usual for SCSI devices to settle, but I reboot so infrequently that I > > can't be sure that's real. > > So what does dmesg say? Does the tape show up in the probes? . . . bt0: Using Strict Round robin scheme bt0 waiting for scsi devices to settle (bt0:0:0): "CONNER CFP2107S 2.14GB 5767" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd0(bt0:0:0): Direct-Access 2048MB (4194304 512 byte sectors) (bt0:6:0): "PLEXTOR CD-ROM PX-8XCS 1.02" type 5 removable SCSI 2 cd0(bt0:6:0): CD-ROM cd present.[198200 x 2048 byte records] Probing for devices on the ISA bus: . . . > Dan > -- > Dan Busarow 714 443 4172 > DPC Systems / Beach.Net dan@dpcsys.com > Dana Point, California 83 09 EF 59 E0 11 89 B4 8D 09 DB FD E1 DD 0C 82 > Ben From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 17 16:35:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA19462 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 17 May 1997 16:35:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vroom.uwec.edu ([137.28.251.242]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA19456 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 16:35:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (godfreja@localhost) by vroom.uwec.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA00168 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 15:40:15 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: vroom.uwec.edu: godfreja owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 15:40:14 -0500 (CDT) From: Jason Godfrey X-Sender: godfreja@vroom.uwec.edu To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: NetBSD Emulation Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello Can FreeBSD run NetBSD/i386 binaries? If so, how do I set it up? I want to use the NetBSD games collection, but when I try I get "Bad magic: ld.so". I'm using FreeBSD 2.2.1 Thanks in advance. -- Jason godfreja@cs.uwec.edu From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 17 16:58:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA20175 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 17 May 1997 16:58:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from falco.kuci.uci.edu (falco.kuci.uci.edu [128.195.23.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA20170 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 16:58:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 3310 invoked by uid 1064); 18 May 1997 00:01:03 -0000 Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 17:01:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Khanh Nguyen X-Sender: nguyenpk@falco.kuci.uci.edu To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: System Commander v3.01 and FreeBSD... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I've searched through the mailing list archives and I haven't found a post on a solution to solve the problem with booting FreeBSD using System Commander version 3.01. The closest to a solution I saw was a post with the use of version 3.0. That solution didn't work for me, however. This is my system: Pentium 166 64M EDO RAM Primary EIDE drives: 1.6GB WD (Windows95/NT) 500MB WD (Linux) Secondary EIDE drives: 2.1GB WD (FreebSD) ATAPI 12x CDROM drive For some odd reason System Commander recognizes my FreeBSD partition yet it wasn't able to boot, giving me "read error" for a result. Anyone have any similiar problems w/ solutions as to solve this particular problem? -Khanh IRC Operator berkeley.edu .tw Systems Administrator --------------------------------------------------------------------------- nguyenpk@kuci.org nguyenpk@quadrunner.com nguyenpk@duncan.nac.net nguyenpk@unixgeek.com From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 17 17:35:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA21408 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 17 May 1997 17:35:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from federation.addy.com (federation.addy.com [207.239.68.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA21403 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 17:35:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freyes.dh.i-2000.com (slip166-72-4-122.il.us.ibm.net [166.72.4.122]) by federation.addy.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA19677 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 20:35:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199705180035.UAA19677@federation.addy.com> From: "Francisco Reyes" To: "FreeBSD questions" Date: Sat, 17 May 97 20:33:05 -0400 Reply-To: "Francisco Reyes" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.91 For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Problem installing Xfree Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk After running the Xfree configuration I am getting _XSERVTransSocketCreateListener: failed to bind listener _XSERVTransSocketINETCreateListener: ...SocketCreateListener() failed _XSERVTransMakeAllCOTSServerListeners: failed to create listener for tcp Fatal server error: Failed to establish all listening sockets I just upgraded to 2.2.1; Xfree installed ok back when I had 2.1.5. My Video card is an old Speedstar Plus (I think it is ET3000). Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 17 17:39:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA21543 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 17 May 1997 17:39:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.mortykai.com (mortykai.com [207.99.60.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA21538 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 17:39:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from morty.mortykai.com ( [207.99.60.65] ) by mail.mortykai.com (Hethmon Brothers Smtpd) ; Sat, 17 May 1997 20:39:22 est5edt Received: from morty.mortykai.com(207.99.60.65) by morty.mortykai.com ; 17 May 97 20:39:21 EDT4 Message-ID: <337E4FB8.1747@mortykai.com> Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 20:39:20 -0400 From: morty Reply-To: morty@mortykai.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02E (OS/2; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: freebsd install Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk i am unable to install freebsd using ftp media. the error: couldnt open ftp connection to ftp.freebsd.org: unknown error. i have tried several mirror sites and dotted quad urls and get the same message. i have a routed network from my isp. the gateway machine has a ppp connection to the internet. i have 3 other machines that access the internet through the gateway machine. the target machine has a 3com 3c509 int 10 io 300. i have double checked the target machine's ip config. dns is working. i can access the ftp host and mirror hosts from the gateway machine. i can ping the target machine from the gateway machine. there is no firewall. all help appreciated. thanks -morty- heard any good ones lately? send them to mailto:jokes@mortykai.com From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 17 18:27:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA23564 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 17 May 1997 18:27:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Big.LITech.Lviv.UA (root@Big.LITech.Lviv.UA [193.232.65.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA23541 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 18:26:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from univers.UUCP (uucp@localhost) by Big.LITech.Lviv.UA (8.7.5/8.7.3) with UUCP id EAA28422 for questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 18 May 1997 04:26:17 +0300 (EET DST) Received: by fox.univers.chernovtsy.ua; Sat, 17 May 97 23:49:21 +0000 Received: by nnk.univers.chernovtsy.ua (UUPC/@ v6.14, 01Mar95); id AA31557 Sat, 17 May 1997 23:40:08 +0400 To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Message-Id: Organization: pvt From: "Oleg N.Kolesnikov" Date: Sat, 17 May 97 23:40:06 +0400 X-Mailer: BML [MS/DOS Beauty Mail v1.36h] Subject: Does FreeBSD2.x support Iomega ZIP external? Lines: 9 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, See subj. Sincerely Oleg Kolesnikov sysadm hq@univers.chernovtsy.ua From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 17 18:38:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA24297 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 17 May 1997 18:38:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spacehog.structured.net (ppp-dialup4.sns-access.com [206.58.222.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA24275; Sat, 17 May 1997 18:38:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spacehog.structured.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spacehog.structured.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA02033; Sat, 17 May 1997 18:38:11 GMT Message-ID: <337DFB13.CEF5C9BA@spacehog.structured.net> Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 18:38:11 +0000 From: Justin Ashworth Reply-To: ashworth@cs.montana.edu Organization: Pretty cruddy X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b3C (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-970209-SNAP i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org, multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Ensoniq sound card X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Has anybody gotten an Ensoniq sound card to work with FreeBSD. If so, how? Thanks... -- - Justin Ashworth, Intern -- Structured Network Systems, Inc. --- justin@structured.net From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 17 18:44:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA24688 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 17 May 1997 18:44:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from geocities.com (mail.geocities.com [204.7.246.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA24680 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 18:44:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 206.173.71.47 (cnc034047.concentric.net [206.173.71.47]) by geocities.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA28821 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 18:33:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <337E5ED6.1001@geocities.com> Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 21:43:55 -0400 From: Patrick Gardella Reply-To: pgardella@geocities.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: PPP Setup Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am trying to setup PPP (user process) on my FreeBSD box (2.2.1). I have been able to get the modems to connect in the Term mode of PPP but I cannot get ppp to start. I also does not work as ppp dial papsite. I've gone through the www.freebsd.org/tutorials/ppp/ with no luck. Nor did a mailing list search. I was wondering if it could be the ISP. I use concentric.net and iglou.com. Both of them use the kind of system that if you dial in as a terminal, you can login and use their resources. If you dial in as a PPP (on Mac or Win95), it works fine. I tried using Username: ppp It does not work. Any ideas? Neither company supports anything beyond Mac or Windoze. -- +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ |Patrick S. Gardella Webmaster - Christian Word Ministries | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |Work: Patrick@ChristianWord.org | |Home: PGardella@geocities.com PGP Key ID 0xEEZD47A9 | +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 17 21:38:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA09235 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 17 May 1997 21:38:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cajon.cfg.com (cajon.cfg.com [192.84.10.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA09228 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 21:38:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alray.cfg.com (alray.cfg.com [192.84.10.15]) by cajon.cfg.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA22029 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 21:37:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970517213735.3d0f8af0@mail.cfg.com> X-Sender: shc@mail.cfg.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 21:37:35 -0700 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org From: Steve Caine Subject: 2940 Can't Find Disks After Rebooting Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I've just installed a copy of 2.2.1-Release which runs fine. However, I can't reboot it without first turning power off & back on. System: 166 MHZ Pentium Award Bios V4.51P6 with V1.0A Plug & Play Extensions Adaptec 2940A Ultra SCSI (AHA-2940AU Bios V1.21) Two Quantum Fireball 2.02 GB disks Toshiba ATAPI CDROM (I know; I ordered a SCSI CDROM but this is what came) When booting after power-on, the Adaptec finds the 2 disks, the boot manager runs & starts the FreeBSD boot, FreeBSD comes up & all is well. On the next boot attempt, however, the Adaptec gives the "Press ^A to run utilities" message, waits for about 60 seconds, and says "Timeout failure during SCSI Inquiry Command" -- it doesn't find either of the disks. If I turn power off & back on, the Adaptec finds the disks & the whole boot is successful. I've installed other FreeBSD's (2.1.5-R's) on machines with Ami Bios with no trouble, so I suspect either I've got the Adaptec misconfigured or there is a problem with the Award Bios & the FreeBSD drivers. I've searched the mailing list archives but don't see anything applicable. Thanks in advance for any ideas, pointers, etc. Steve. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 17 22:36:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA11058 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 17 May 1997 22:36:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mh1.cts.com (root@mh1.cts.com [205.163.24.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA11053 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 22:36:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lheaton.cts.com (thermite1.cts.com [204.216.165.73]) by mh1.cts.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA20137 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 22:36:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970517223523.0069debc@king.cts.com> X-Sender: lheaton@king.cts.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 22:35:23 -0700 To: questions@freebsd.org From: Leland Heaton Subject: Learning FreeBSD Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have a major dilema. I want to learn freebsd. I started out working on a FreeBSD system with my two friends. One uses an ancient version of like 1.0 and the other 1.9 or something. Old versions. I am the new one and run 2.1.0. They tried to help me but the one with 1.0 just doesn't know (although he is incdeibly smart) and the other just doesn't really want to help me anymore. I wanted to really learn FreeBSD now kinda to spite the 1.9 guy who knows what to do but just won't point me in the right direction. I was trying to get a network between my now 486DX2 66 (FreeBSD) and Pentium Win95 machine and it wouldn't work. So I downloaded the manual...This doesn't help me much because I need to have something in front of me. Written down. So I called kinko's and it turns out to cost about 220 dollars to print out the 465 page manual I downloaded...I can't afford this and I would probably use it. But I want to learn FreeBSD. Someone suggested that I print the parts I need but. It seems that it will be too difficult and I will loose the stuff. How can I learn FreeBSD (I just really would like to scrap the messed up part of freebsd that caused this whole mess and reinstall FreeBSD) But I want to learn it first. See my dilema? -- Leland Heaton From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 17 22:54:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA11988 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 17 May 1997 22:54:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from radford.i-plus.net (root@Radford.i-Plus.net [206.99.237.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA11980 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 22:54:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from abyss (pitlord@Abyss.i-Plus.net [206.99.237.44]) by radford.i-plus.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA21588; Sun, 18 May 1997 01:51:57 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199705180551.BAA21588@radford.i-plus.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.0544.0 From: "Troy Settle" To: Cc: Subject: Re: Reinstalling or Unistalling FreeBSD (but I still am going to use it) Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 01:54:37 -0400 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE Engine V4.71.0544.0 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk From: Wolfgang Helbig >> I installed FreeBSD with the Full Development setup and I usually >> install with custom. Now I'm having full file system problems and want >> to start from sub-scratch. How do I re/uninstall FreeBSD. DOn't get this >> wrong but I love FreeBSD:) > >So do I, after I reinstalled it three times :-) (with periods of fighting >with my Linux Distribution in between)! > >I put all the customized files (kernel configuration file, /etc/sysconfig ..) >in my home directory and saved it on a floppy. > ># tar -czf /dev/fd0 . > ^ my home directory > >and then I restarted inserted boot.flp, reboot. During intallation I >selected to make new filesystems on all partitions to get rid of the >old files. > >Wolfgang > It's not necessary to do this, but I've had fun with it. Get on IRC from X, then while chatting with those of us that waste our lives on #FreeBSD, open another shell, and do 'rm -rf /' as root. I found it to be quite interesting, you might too. (then again, I have no life right now, and watching bugs mating is also interesting :) -- Troy Settle Network Administrator, iPlus Internet Services http://www.i-Plus.net From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 17 23:01:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA12241 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 17 May 1997 23:01:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hera.ecs.csus.edu (hera.ecs.csus.edu [130.86.71.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA12236 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 23:01:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gaia.ecs.csus.edu (gaia.ecs.csus.edu [130.86.71.9]) by hera.ecs.csus.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA02198; Sat, 17 May 1997 23:01:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from sithoa@localhost) by gaia.ecs.csus.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA06920; Sat, 17 May 1997 22:59:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 22:59:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Allen Sitho To: Khanh Nguyen cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: System Commander v3.01 and FreeBSD... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I have SC version 3 and this works for me : Highlight (but not enter) the FreeBSD selection, hit Alt-S for setup, select (highlight) the global selection, and hit Alt-F9. Now a pop up menu appears, clear or change the memory option to NO, and Esc out and boot FreeBsd. ooooo ooooo $$$$$$$$o o$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$o$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$ $$$$$ $$$$ Allen Sitho $$$$ "$$$$ $$$$" "$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$" ""$$$$$$$$$$$"" ""$$$$$"" "$" From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 17 23:29:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA13221 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 17 May 1997 23:29:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.barcode.co.il (gatekeeper.barcode.co.il [192.116.93.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA13210 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 23:29:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by gatekeeper.barcode.co.il (8.8.5/8.6.12) id JAA09538; Sun, 18 May 1997 09:28:27 +0300 (IDT) X-Authentication-Warning: gatekeeper.barcode.co.il: smap set sender to using -f Received: from localhost.barcode.co.il(127.0.0.1) by gatekeeper.barcode.co.il via smap (V1.3) id sma009535; Sun May 18 09:28:00 1997 Message-ID: <337EA136.6408@barcode.co.il> Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 09:27:02 +0300 From: Nadav Eiron X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; SunOS 5.5 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Leland Heaton CC: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Learning FreeBSD References: <3.0.1.32.19970517223523.0069debc@king.cts.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Leland Heaton wrote: > > I have a major dilema. I want to learn freebsd. > > I started out working on a FreeBSD system with my two friends. One uses an > ancient version of like 1.0 and the other 1.9 or something. Old versions. > I am the new one and run 2.1.0. They tried to help me but the one with 1.0 > just doesn't know (although he is incdeibly smart) and the other just > doesn't really want to help me anymore. > > I wanted to really learn FreeBSD now kinda to spite the 1.9 guy who knows > what to do but just won't point me in the right direction. I was trying to > get a network between my now 486DX2 66 (FreeBSD) and Pentium Win95 machine > and it wouldn't work. So I downloaded the manual...This doesn't help me > much because I need to have something in front of me. Written down. So I > called kinko's and it turns out to cost about 220 dollars to print out the > 465 page manual I downloaded...I can't afford this and I would probably use > it. But I want to learn FreeBSD. > > Someone suggested that I print the parts I need but. It seems that it will > be too difficult and I will loose the stuff. How can I learn FreeBSD (I > just really would like to scrap the messed up part of freebsd that caused > this whole mess and reinstall FreeBSD) But I want to learn it first. See > my dilema? > > -- Leland Heaton There never was a 1.9 release, and 2.1.0 is ancient history as well. If you want something written down, the best would be to get "The Complete FreeBSD" from Walnut Creek (http://www.cdrom.com). It's something like $50 including the latest release (well, a recent release anyhow) on CD. This will get you a book (that mostly deals with installation and basic administration) and all the docs on the CD. Nadav