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> Rodney W. Grimes scribbled this message on Sep 13:
> > > Hi Y'all,
> > > 
> > > This is just a bit of formality and a reminder:
> > > 
> > > Any progamming logic (source, object, executable, etc.) that you may find
> > > on the computer known as sendero-ppp.i-connect.net (206.190.143.100), which
> > > does not clearly display a Copyright notice authorizing free distribution
> > > is proprietary, unpublished source code of Simon Shapiro, Atlas Telecom or
> > > both.
> > 
> > I love the work you are doing, but the above statement is not correct.
> > 
> > a) It is not ``proprietary'' unless you take legal and proper actions
> >    to keep it as such.  In most cases you have done just the opposite,
> >    you've given pointers to it in a public forum.
> > 
> > b) The action of making it avaliable to anyone other than yourself
> >    is `publication'', thierfor the code is not ``unpublished''.
> 
> if this is true.. and that simply letting people download load it means
> that the copyright is invalid (i.e. it's publicly avail), then why do we
> worry about GPL'd code?? it's publicly avail.. but we still have to adhear
> to the copyright attached...  so why does this apply to his code?

My statement b) above says nothing about invalidating the copyright on
the file(s).  It said that his claim to being ``unpublished source code''
would not hold up in court.  Infact no where in my reply do I mention
copyright.

His base copyright is fully intact and binding, though missing a
few technical legal requirements (City and State for a filed US copyright)
his assertion of copyright infringement would hold up in a court.  His
assertion that it is a proprietary, unpublished source code how ever
would not.

I am not a lawyer, but have and do spend a healthy chunk of money
in that area on a regular basis and have some first hand expertise
in watching just how a lawyer disects things like the first 8 lines
of dpt_pci.h, I am sure Greenly, Rottenberg, Evans and Brag as well
as a Black's legal dictionary would back me up on my assertion in b)
above.

> it also only in theory that published material is free... but case law
> has proven otherwise..  this is the basis for all intellectual property
> law...

I could get get Blacks and spend an hour showing you how many flaws
there are in the above 3 statements, but instead let me just make
3 statements back:

Published material is not free, unless there are attached conditions
to the copyright that are legally valid and true granting you rights
beyond what the copyright grants you. 

Case law is only some % of the picture, you have to see if the
actual law as applied in a particular case decision matches the
current situation.

Intellectual property law has no single basis, and is comprised
of both actual written law and the cases tried using those laws
(commonly called case law).  Infact that should apply to all law
as far as I can tell.

> 
> > c) Your ftp server welcome message desen't even head any warnings
> >    what so ever.
> 
> well. that has been fixed... :)

Okay, it has warnings, but those warings are seriously lacking in
there legal correctness :-(.  Folks don't try to write protection
mechanisms yourself unless you have a good understanding and first hand
experience with the applicable law. 

I don't see anything in the login banner I couldn't get a good lawyer
to destroy in a few minutes.  The word copyright doesn't even appear,
and I've already blasted the holes in ``unpublished''.  And that
claim to ``proprietary'', well, thats blown by not taking steps to
protect it, kinda like a trademark.  You'd really need a password
on the site to assert the unpublished and/or proprietary claims.

Kinda like laying a book in the book store with those claims on
it and a $0.00 price tag.  I just don't think the claims would
have a leg to stand on in court.  Most any company asserting
these claims require an NDA before you can even look at it,
let alone download it and use it!
 

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> a) It is not ``proprietary'' unless you take legal and proper actions
>    to keep it as such.  In most cases you have done just the opposite,
>    you've given pointers to it in a public forum.

Correct.

> b) The action of making it avaliable to anyone other than yourself
>    is `publication'', thierfor the code is not ``unpublished''.

Then AT&T/USL/Novell/SCO code isn't publication either, since they
contain the same wording.  I'd tend to be believe that the above isn't
true.

> c) Your ftp server welcome message desen't even head any warnings
>    what so ever.

I don't think it matters, since many ftp servers that distribute
copyrighted software don't have welcome messages.  Welcome messages
aren't even standard on stock ftp server.

But, the first clause alone is enough to make things 'interesting.


Nate

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> > a) It is not ``proprietary'' unless you take legal and proper actions
> >    to keep it as such.  In most cases you have done just the opposite,
> >    you've given pointers to it in a public forum.
> 
> Correct.
> 
> > b) The action of making it avaliable to anyone other than yourself
> >    is `publication'', thierfor the code is not ``unpublished''.
> 
> Then AT&T/USL/Novell/SCO code isn't publication either, since they
> contain the same wording.  I'd tend to be believe that the above isn't
> true.

The AT&T/USL/Novell/SCO code is _only_ made avaliable under license
agreement, and the _signed_ license is what keeps it unpublished.  So
you are correct, my statement was incomplete, whoever, Simons code
has been ``published'' since he did not protect himself with a 
``license''.
 
> > c) Your ftp server welcome message desen't even head any warnings
> >    what so ever.
> 
> I don't think it matters, since many ftp servers that distribute
> copyrighted software don't have welcome messages.  Welcome messages
> aren't even standard on stock ftp server.

People keep going back to ``copyright'' his copyright is fine, he
has copyriht protection, but, the other parts are pretty much blown.
Go back and even try and find the word copyright in my original
mail message...

> But, the first clause alone is enough to make things 'interesting.

Yep.....

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>I recently upgraded my Adaptec 2940 to a 2940UW to take full advantage
>of my Quantum Atlas II. However, it seems that both the adapter and
>the disk are refusing wide negotiation.

No.  Your narrow disk and cdrom drive are refusing wide negotiation.
The Quantum seems to be doing just fine.  Boot with the "-v" boot
flag to be certain of what the negotiated speeds are.

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> > a) It is not ``proprietary'' unless you take legal and proper actions
> >    to keep it as such.  In most cases you have done just the opposite,
> >    you've given pointers to it in a public forum.
> 
> Correct.

Or it might be seen as "due dilligence"...

> > b) The action of making it avaliable to anyone other than yourself
> >    is `publication'', thierfor the code is not ``unpublished''.
> 
> Then AT&T/USL/Novell/SCO code isn't publication either, since they
> contain the same wording.  I'd tend to be believe that the above isn't
> true.

You're right.  Unpublished code can remain unpublished, however widely
distributed, so long as it is only distributed to a "select group".

Without controls on who can FTP the code, there is no group selection
enforced.  This would fail to meet the criteria for distribution of
unpublished sources, I'm afraid.  Which means that due dilligence isn't
met either.

> 
> > c) Your ftp server welcome message desen't even head any warnings
> >    what so ever.
> 
> I don't think it matters, since many ftp servers that distribute
> copyrighted software don't have welcome messages.  Welcome messages
> aren't even standard on stock ftp server.
> 
> But, the first clause alone is enough to make things 'interesting.

Yup.


					Terry Lambert
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Hi!

In the last few days i experience some strange error messages from my 
noname ncr 53c810:

ncr0: SCSI phase error fixup: CCB address mismatch (0xf0f2cc00 != 0xf0f0bc00)
 np->ccb = 0xf0f0be00
sd0: phase change 6-2 3@00099dd0 resid=3.
ncr0: SCSI phase error fixup: CCB address mismatch (0xf0f2cc00 != 0xf0f0ba00)
 np->ccb = 0xf0f0be00
sd0: phase change 6-2 3@00099dd0 resid=2.
sd0: phase change 6-2 3@00099dd0 resid=3.
sd0: phase change 6-2 3@00099dd0 resid=3.
ncr0: SCSI phase error fixup: CCB address mismatch (0xf0f2cc00 != 0xf0f0b800)
 np->ccb = 0xf0f0be00
sd0: phase change 6-2 3@00099dd0 resid=3.

Is this something to worry about? 
Apart from these messages nothing seems to be fucked up, but i slept better
before knowing them ;-) ...

tnx in advance,
mark.

---
FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT #0: Mon Aug 18 03:41:07 CEST 1997
ncr0: <ncr 53c810 fast10 scsi> rev 0x02 int a irq 15 on pci0.8.0
ncr0: minsync=25, maxsync=206, maxoffs=8, 16 dwords burst, normal dma fifo
scbus0 at ncr0 bus 0
sd0 at scbus0 target 0 lun 0
sd0: <IBM DCAS-34330 S61A> type 0 fixed SCSI 2
sd0: Direct-Access 
sd0: 10.0 MB/s (100 ns, offset 8)
4134MB (8467200 512 byte sectors)

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There is a place in town that has a couple of PCI AdvanSys cards it wants to
get rid of.  I happen to be in the market for a couple PCI scsi cards.  The
salesman pointed me to a file on the AdvanSys ftp server
(ftp://ftp.advansys.com/pub/freebsd/freebsd.txt, dated 1/16/97) that noted ISA
support was supposed to be done and PCI support was near completion.  And, are
these cards junk? (the ones he wants to sell are 930AU, I think).

Which version of FreeBSD has this?  It must be -current, since a grep of LINT
doesn't show any matches for advansys in 2.2-stable.

This same store has two Symbios 53c875 based cards on back-order for me, but
they would cancel that order, if I got those AdvanSys cards.

How good of trade would that be (the Advansys cards are about half the price
of the Symbios cards, $80 vs. $150).  I know the Symbios chip has the scripts
memory, and can offload some of the work from the host CPU, but exactly how
much of a win is that?

Thanks for any anwser.

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Zach Heilig scribbled this message on Sep 16:
> There is a place in town that has a couple of PCI AdvanSys cards it wants to
> get rid of.  I happen to be in the market for a couple PCI scsi cards.  The
> salesman pointed me to a file on the AdvanSys ftp server
> (ftp://ftp.advansys.com/pub/freebsd/freebsd.txt, dated 1/16/97) that noted ISA
> support was supposed to be done and PCI support was near completion.  And, are
> these cards junk? (the ones he wants to sell are 930AU, I think).
> 
> Which version of FreeBSD has this?  It must be -current, since a grep of LINT
> doesn't show any matches for advansys in 2.2-stable.

currently.. the only version is the one that uses Justin Gibb's CAM
scsi code that will soon replace the current code.. once that is done,
then the driver for the cards will be included, (correct me if I remeber
wrong Justin)...

> This same store has two Symbios 53c875 based cards on back-order for me, but
> they would cancel that order, if I got those AdvanSys cards.
> 
> How good of trade would that be (the Advansys cards are about half the price
> of the Symbios cards, $80 vs. $150).  I know the Symbios chip has the scripts
> memory, and can offload some of the work from the host CPU, but exactly how
> much of a win is that?

Justin will have to answer this question.. but I am looking forward to
the time that FreeBSD does support them, as my supplier has the Advansys
cards, but doesn't have any of the ncr based cards...

ttyl..

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Hi,

	I'm running 2.2.2 on the above, which has started to
intermittently give the following errors:

aha0: Bus dropped at unexpected time
aha0: Invalid bus phase/sequence
sd0(aha0:0:0): UNIT ATTENTION asc:29,0
sd0(aha0:0:0):  Power on, reset, or bus device reset occurred
, retries:4
aha0: Invalid bus phase/sequence
aha0: Invalid bus phase/sequence
sd0(aha0:0:0): timed out 
sd0(aha0:0:0): UNIT ATTENTION asc:29,0
sd0(aha0:0:0):  Power on, reset, or bus device reset occurred
, retries:2
aha0: Invalid bus phase/sequence
sd0(aha0:0:0): UNIT ATTENTION asc:29,0
sd0(aha0:0:0):  Power on, reset, or bus device reset occurred
, retries:4

	And the dmesg output is:

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FreeBSD 2.2.2-RELEASE #0: Wed Jul 23 11:40:00 IST 1997
    root@holsten.acucobol.ie:/usr/src/sys/compile/HOLSTEN
CPU: i486 DX2 (486-class CPU)
  Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0x435  Stepping=5
  Features=0x3<FPU,VME>
real memory  = 16777216 (16384K bytes)
avail memory = 14864384 (14516K bytes)
eisa0: <CPQ701 (System Board)>
Probing for devices on the EISA bus
eisa0:8 <CPQ4410=0xe114410> unknown device
Probing for devices on the ISA bus:
sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard
sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0>
ed0 not found at 0x280
sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa
sio0: type 16550A
sio1 not found at 0x2f8
sio2: disabled, not probed.
sio3: disabled, not probed.
lpt0 at 0x3bc-0x3c3 irq 7 on isa
lpt0: Interrupt-driven port
lp0: TCP/IP capable interface
fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa
fdc0: NEC 72065B
fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in
fd1: 1.2MB 5.25in
aha0 at 0x330-0x333 irq 11 drq 5 on isa
aha0 waiting for scsi devices to settle
(aha0:0:0): "COMPAQ M2694ES-512 952B" type 0 fixed SCSI 2
sd0(aha0:0:0): Direct-Access 1001MB (2051000 512 byte sectors)
(aha0:2:0): "TANDBERG  TDC 3600 =08:" type 1 removable SCSI 2
st0(aha0:2:0): Sequential-Access density code 0x0,  drive empty
(aha0:4:0): "ARCHIVE Python 27871-XXX 4.BG" type 1 removable SCSI 2
st1(aha0:4:0): Sequential-Access density code 0x13,  drive empty
lnc0 at 0x8800-0x8817 irq 10 drq 0 on eisa slot 8
lnc0: PCnet-32 VL-Bus address 00:80:5f:18:d9:9c
npx0 flags 0x1 on motherboard
npx0: INT 16 interface


	It was working fine for about 6 weeks after the install,
before the started turning up regularly, so I'd guess it's either a
problem with the controller, or the disk. Is it possibly a problem
with the setup on the card, or possibly the fact that it's all sitting
inside a Compaq?

	Any suggestions much appreciated.

Thanks,

John

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>currently.. the only version is the one that uses Justin Gibb's CAM
>scsi code that will soon replace the current code.. once that is done,
>then the driver for the cards will be included, (correct me if I remeber
>wrong Justin)...

This is correct.

>> How good of trade would that be (the Advansys cards are about half the price
>> of the Symbios cards, $80 vs. $150).  I know the Symbios chip has the script
>s
>> memory, and can offload some of the work from the host CPU, but exactly how
>> much of a win is that?
>
>Justin will have to answer this question.. but I am looking forward to
>the time that FreeBSD does support them, as my supplier has the Advansys
>cards, but doesn't have any of the ncr based cards...

I haven't done any side by side benchmarks between the two cards, but the
architecture that the AdvanSys cards use doesn't strike me as really
high performance.

>-- 
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I just purchased s JVC XR-W2001, hooked it up to my ncr53c810
scsi controller.  Everytime I do anything direted at the drive ( a
dd, scsi command, wormcontrol) the computer freezes, and then reboots.

I haven't been able to get a dump as I have no where large enough
at this time to dump the core to.

I haven'theard of anyone else experiencing freezes and reboots with 
CD-R's and wonder if anything else might be amiss.  The probe of
the CDR is below.

Thanks
  Andrew

scbus1 target 4 lun 0: <JVC XR-W2001 2.35> type 4 removable SCSI 2
worm0 at scbus1 target 4 lun 0
worm0: Write-Once 



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On Wed, 17 Sep 1997, Justin T. Gibbs wrote:

> I haven't done any side by side benchmarks between the two cards, but the
> architecture that the AdvanSys cards use doesn't strike me as really
> high performance.

	Back in 1994 I did have some experience with PCI Advansys
	SCSI controllers, under SCO UNIX.  They were noticeable
	slower than any of NCR 53c810 and Adaptec 2940.

Best regards,
Andrew Stesin

nic-hdl: ST73-RIPE



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Hello!

I just want to make sure I don't miss something before changing my
mainboard. Please enlighten me.

I run a 486/DX2-66 (ASUS SP-3 with onboard NCR-810 SCSI
controller). This computer runs for about 3 years now (2.0.5, 2.1.0,
2.1.5)

Since about four weeks I keep getting SCSI resets and then the bus is
dead. No recovery! And it's really strange because the NCR controller
reports totally different errors before hanging. Here are the error
reports from the last three crashes (typed in by hand, so the actual
format may differ):

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

sd1(ncr0:1:0): internal error: cmd00 != 91=(vdsp[0] >> 24)
ncr0: timeout ccb=f19fbc00 (skip)

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

ncr0:1: ERROR (a0:0) (f-28-0) (8/13) @ (260:00000000).
        script cmd=fc00001c.
        reg:     da 10 80 13 47 08 01 1f 00 0f 81 28 80 00 00 00.
ncr0: restart (fatal error).
sd1(ncr0:1:0): command failed (9ff)@f19fbc00.
nrc0: timeout ccb=f19fbc00 (skip)

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

ncr0: SCSI phase error fixup: CCB already dequeued (0xf19fbc00)
nrc0: timeout ccb=f19fbc00 (skip)

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I changed everything:

* disconnected everything except the system drive -> still errors
* changed cables (three different ones) -> still errors
* changed termination (two different external ones, internal, different
  termpower sttings etc.) -> still errors
* turned all devices to 5MB synchr. and finally to acync via
  'ncrcontrol' -> still errors
* finally replaced the system drive (old DEC 5200 against new IBM DAHC
  34330) and put 2.2.1 on it -> still errors. Actually, the errors above
  are from that setup.

The only thing I didn't change was the mainboard.

I'd be glad if anyone can confirm my suspicion that the NCR controller
has gone nuts. I just can't imagine why ...

I'd also appreciate it very much if someone with more insight than
myself could explain the error reports to me. I'd especially like to
know what this 'f19fbc00' means: it shows up in all three errors (what's
a 'ccb' anyway?)

Thanks in advance!

-Walter

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I just dealt with solving the same problem.  In fact there were were
several problems.

1) DEC DSP5400S drive dies with a physical media failure
2) Attempt to low level the drive; it fails and the drive powers down [ie
   it is dead, Jim]
3) remove the drive from /etc/fstab and run for two weeks with same
   physical setup, waiting for replacement.
4) Remove dead drive [internal] and add new drive [external] with correct
   termination.  Haul dead drive to school, to try using the Solaris
   format comand on it.  Attempt to remote log into my machine, its dead.
5) Go back home, and messages like you describe.  The old good drive
   powering up and powering down. Turns out the Y connector is dead.
   Remove it.  Sigh of releif; not two dead disks in two weeks.
6) Format the DSP5400S.  It powers down on the sun too.  The grown
   defect list is approx 1000; the primary is approx 200.  Seems quite
   dead...
7) Return home, reconnect the rest of my external chain.  Starts to boot,
   and dies with error messsages you describe during fsck.  *Grumble*
8) Dissect each external case, try all combinations one at a time, turns
   out that if I include the CD writer I get the above errors while
   fscking.  "FunnySCSI" below is the "weird" connector which is on a
   SUN-3 shoe box.

   [2 internal drives] -> [Computer-HD50] -> [Tape-Centronics] ->
       [CDWriter-FunnySCSI] -> [Disk-Centronics]

   Next I swapped the tape and disk; same effect

9) Next I bought a Centronics-Centronics cable, to remove the CDWriter
   from the chain.  
    -> this worked fine

10) Broke SCSI spec by terminating the CD writer at the drive, leaving
    an illegal stub of cable sticking out of the case [the other FunnySCSI
    connector].  Connected this with one funnyscsi->centronics cable ..
    -> this seems to work fine

Hopefully this helps somebody with scsi problems :)

John


On Thu, 18 Sep 1997, Walter Hafner wrote:

> Hello!
> 
> I just want to make sure I don't miss something before changing my
> mainboard. Please enlighten me.
> 
> I run a 486/DX2-66 (ASUS SP-3 with onboard NCR-810 SCSI
> controller). This computer runs for about 3 years now (2.0.5, 2.1.0,
> 2.1.5)
> 
> Since about four weeks I keep getting SCSI resets and then the bus is
> dead. No recovery! And it's really strange because the NCR controller
> reports totally different errors before hanging. Here are the error
> reports from the last three crashes (typed in by hand, so the actual
> format may differ):
> 
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> sd1(ncr0:1:0): internal error: cmd00 != 91=(vdsp[0] >> 24)
> ncr0: timeout ccb=f19fbc00 (skip)
> 
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> ncr0:1: ERROR (a0:0) (f-28-0) (8/13) @ (260:00000000).
>         script cmd=fc00001c.
>         reg:     da 10 80 13 47 08 01 1f 00 0f 81 28 80 00 00 00.
> ncr0: restart (fatal error).
> sd1(ncr0:1:0): command failed (9ff)@f19fbc00.
> nrc0: timeout ccb=f19fbc00 (skip)
> 
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> ncr0: SCSI phase error fixup: CCB already dequeued (0xf19fbc00)
> nrc0: timeout ccb=f19fbc00 (skip)
> 
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> I changed everything:
> 
> * disconnected everything except the system drive -> still errors
> * changed cables (three different ones) -> still errors
> * changed termination (two different external ones, internal, different
>   termpower sttings etc.) -> still errors
> * turned all devices to 5MB synchr. and finally to acync via
>   'ncrcontrol' -> still errors
> * finally replaced the system drive (old DEC 5200 against new IBM DAHC
>   34330) and put 2.2.1 on it -> still errors. Actually, the errors above
>   are from that setup.
> 
> The only thing I didn't change was the mainboard.
> 
> I'd be glad if anyone can confirm my suspicion that the NCR controller
> has gone nuts. I just can't imagine why ...
> 
> I'd also appreciate it very much if someone with more insight than
> myself could explain the error reports to me. I'd especially like to
> know what this 'f19fbc00' means: it shows up in all three errors (what's
> a 'ccb' anyway?)
> 
> Thanks in advance!
> 
> -Walter
> 
> 


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>On Wed, 17 Sep 1997, Justin T. Gibbs wrote:
>
>> I haven't done any side by side benchmarks between the two cards, but the
>> architecture that the AdvanSys cards use doesn't strike me as really
>> high performance.
>
>	Back in 1994 I did have some experience with PCI Advansys
>	SCSI controllers, under SCO UNIX.  They were noticeable
>	slower than any of NCR 53c810 and Adaptec 2940.
>
>Best regards,
>Andrew Stesin

If you had one of the early AdvanSys controllers, the latency timer
is explicitly set to 0 to get around a bug.  This, above and beyond
the architecture used to talk to the cards, really kills performance.
It was corrected in Rev C and higher of the non-ultra Asc1200 chips
and is not a problem in the Ultra line.

--
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Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 15:58:47 -0700
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       "Re: Is my NCR controller broken?" (Sep 18,  9:25am)
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On Sep 18,  9:25am, John Dowdal wrote:
} Subject: Re: Is my NCR controller broken?
} I just dealt with solving the same problem.  In fact there were were
} several problems.
} 
} 7) Return home, reconnect the rest of my external chain.  Starts to boot,
}    and dies with error messsages you describe during fsck.  *Grumble*
} 8) Dissect each external case, try all combinations one at a time, turns
}    out that if I include the CD writer I get the above errors while
}    fscking.  "FunnySCSI" below is the "weird" connector which is on a
}    SUN-3 shoe box.
} 
}    [2 internal drives] -> [Computer-HD50] -> [Tape-Centronics] ->
}        [CDWriter-FunnySCSI] -> [Disk-Centronics]
} 
}    Next I swapped the tape and disk; same effect
} 
} 9) Next I bought a Centronics-Centronics cable, to remove the CDWriter
}    from the chain.  
}     -> this worked fine
} 
} 10) Broke SCSI spec by terminating the CD writer at the drive, leaving
}     an illegal stub of cable sticking out of the case [the other FunnySCSI
}     connector].  Connected this with one funnyscsi->centronics cable ..
}     -> this seems to work fine

I seem to recall problems with termpower and Sun 3 vintage equipment
(this stuff predates SCSI 1).   I believe the some Sun 3's actually
grounded the termpower pin which tended to melt things if you connected
them to post-standard equipment that supplied termpower.  I wonder if
your shoe box or the cables that connect to it don't pass termpower
through.  This might result in no power to an external terminator at
the end of your SCSI chain, and it is consistent with the configurations
that worked and didn't work.  You should be able to make it work by
putting either the disk or tape back at the end of the chain and
configuring the end device to supply termpower to the bus.

			---  Truck

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>>>>> Andrew Herdman writes:

 > I just purchased s JVC XR-W2001, hooked it up to my ncr53c810
 > scsi controller.  Everytime I do anything direted at the drive ( a
 > dd, scsi command, wormcontrol) the computer freezes, and then reboots.

This is normal :-) the JVC is not a supported drive.

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>(this stuff predates SCSI 1)

Wrong.

> I believe the some Sun 3's actually

Wrong. It was actually the sun 4/110.

I'd also like to point out that neither SCSI-1 nor SASI before
it specified cable pinouts- just pin numbers.


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On Sep 18,  5:25pm, Matthew Jacob wrote:
} Subject: Re: Is my NCR controller broken?
} >(this stuff predates SCSI 1)
} 
} Wrong.

I may have misremembered on this point.

} > I believe the some Sun 3's actually
} 
} Wrong. It was actually the sun 4/110.

Looks like we're both right.  I was unaware that the 4/110 was
similarly afflicted.  From my sun-managers archives:

  First, I was reminded about something which, while not directly impacting
  my situation, is well worth repeating. This is the infamous design
  decision(?) by Sun to ground the "termination power" SCSI pin on the 3/60
  and 4/110 models, which means that a straight-through cable from either of
  these models to a SCSI drive with termination power supplied tends to blow
  the drive up! So while it's safe to plug an ex sun-3 drive onto a new
  system, plugging a new drive onto a 3/60 is potentially a problem! It's ok
  if you disable "termination power" on the drive, or cut the appropriate pin
  of the SCSI cable.

Also

  >>         1) most Sun-2/Sun-3 SCSI cards don't supply termination power to the
  >>            TRMPWR line on the SCSI bus.  Only very late engineering rev
  >>            cards supply power (if your's does it will have a fuse on
  >>            the card).  Make sure that your disk is supplying termination
  >>            power (most disks have a jumper to enable/disable this).

and from comp.periphs.scsi:

  The SparcStation 1 and 1+, Sun3/50 and 3/60, all do not supply
  term power.  And, I think I recall that some 3/60s even have
  their TERMPWR pin (pin 26) wired to ground.  This can cause
  serious smoke if you connect a device that sources term power;
  The 386i seems to be the only Sun (non-VME) that sources term power,
  as this was required to power the external terminator plug that
  was supplied with that machine.  

and from comp.periphs:

  Some time ago, there was much discussion of how Sun screwed up the SCSI
  interface on their 3/60s -- pin 26, which is supposed to supply +5
  volts for termination power was grounded.  This meant that any other
  device which chose to supply +5 on that line was likely to melt-down
  its power supply, or worse, its firmware.  Since, up till now, I have
  always connected to Sun shoeboxes, I have not been concerned with this
  problem.

  However, now that I am connecting to another vendor's shoebox, I must
  take precautions.  As a simple, if ugly, fix, I just cut wire 26 of the
  ribbon cable at the Sun end, causing line to float.  (Actually, I made
  a short piece of cable with line 26 cut which I can insert between the
  sun and the cable to the disk drives).  Strangely, when I tested for
  continuity between pin 26 and ground on the 3/60, there was none.
  Still, better to be safe...

} I'd also like to point out that neither SCSI-1 nor SASI before
} it specified cable pinouts- just pin numbers.
} 
}-- End of excerpt from Matthew Jacob



			---  Truck

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>Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG
>
>On Sep 18,  5:25pm, Matthew Jacob wrote:
>} Subject: Re: Is my NCR controller broken?
>} >(this stuff predates SCSI 1)
>} 
>} Wrong.
>
>I may have misremembered on this point.

Ooh, I should have been nicer... sorry...

>
>} > I believe the some Sun 3's actually
>} 
>} Wrong. It was actually the sun 4/110.
>
>Looks like we're both right.  I was unaware that the 4/110 was
>similarly afflicted.  From my sun-managers archives:
>..

Oops- yer right, the 3/60 putzed it too.

>  >>         1) most Sun-2/Sun-3 SCSI cards don't supply termination power to the
>  >>            TRMPWR line on the SCSI bus.  Only very late engineering rev

That's also true.


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On Thu, 18 Sep 1997, Jean-Marc Zucconi wrote:

> >>>>> Andrew Herdman writes:
> 
>  > I just purchased s JVC XR-W2001, hooked it up to my ncr53c810
>  > scsi controller.  Everytime I do anything direted at the drive ( a
>  > dd, scsi command, wormcontrol) the computer freezes, and then reboots.
> 
> This is normal :-) the JVC is not a supported drive.

Hrm... isn't this a little..... harsh?

Thanks for the reply;

Andrew


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On Fri, Sep 19, 1997 at 02:11:10AM +0100, Jean-Marc Zucconi wrote:
>>>>>> Andrew Herdman writes:
>
>> I just purchased s JVC XR-W2001, hooked it up to my ncr53c810
>> scsi controller.  Everytime I do anything direted at the drive ( a
>> dd, scsi command, wormcontrol) the computer freezes, and then reboots.
>
> This is normal :-) the JVC is not a supported drive.

I'd still say that's a bug.  Unsupported drives shouldn't cause a
reboot.

Greg

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Hi Jean-Marc Zucconi;  On 19-Sep-97 you wrote: 
> >>>>> Andrew Herdman writes:
>  
>   > I just purchased s JVC XR-W2001, hooked it up to my ncr53c810
>   > scsi controller.  Everytime I do anything direted at the drive ( a
>   > dd, scsi command, wormcontrol) the computer freezes, and then
>  reboots.
>  
>  This is normal :-) the JVC is not a supported drive.

Try to see if you have LUn (other than zero) scanning enabled.  If you do,
knock it OFF.  FreeBSD does some initial access commands in backwards order
(I forget which, maybe TEST UNIT READY and INQUIRY), which, on many CD-R
units cause them to try and answer for LUNs other than zero and promptly
hang.

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>>>>>> Andrew Herdman writes:
>
> > I just purchased s JVC XR-W2001, hooked it up to my ncr53c810
> > scsi controller.  Everytime I do anything direted at the drive ( a
> > dd, scsi command, wormcontrol) the computer freezes, and then reboots.
>
>This is normal :-) the JVC is not a supported drive.

Yeah, normal maybe for Lose'95 :) , but it shouldn't be for UNIX -- it
should die in a more robust manner (like maybe saying "worm0: Device not
configured"? and defnitely NOT rebooting the system!)

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I am new to the wold of FreeBSD, but somewhat familiar with Linux and Unix. The problem I am running in to is getting my zip drive to mount. When my system boots up and probes for devices, the zip drive is assigned sd1. Once I log in, based on what I do in Linux, if I try to mount the drive using the command mount /dev/sd1 /zip it returns an error. 

Can you tell me what I am doing wrong or what I can do to resolve the problem?

Thank you
Chris

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Hi,
Have a Q:
if I have a BSD machine running internet server and SUN running a
intranet, how should I go about implementing user/password access to the
intranet via BSD.
Apache web server is running on the BSD side.
What type of password encryption does Netscape client supports. I can't
go with the clear text. Any suggestions!
thanks
/s


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As Don Lewis wrote...
> 
> On Sep 18,  5:25pm, Matthew Jacob wrote:
> } Subject: Re: Is my NCR controller broken?
> } >(this stuff predates SCSI 1)
> } 
> } Wrong.
> 
> I may have misremembered on this point.
> 
> } > I believe the some Sun 3's actually
> } 
> } Wrong. It was actually the sun 4/110.
> 
> Looks like we're both right.  I was unaware that the 4/110 was
> similarly afflicted.  From my sun-managers archives:
> 
>   First, I was reminded about something which, while not directly impacting
>   my situation, is well worth repeating. This is the infamous design
>   decision(?) by Sun to ground the "termination power" SCSI pin on the 3/60
>   and 4/110 models, which means that a straight-through cable from either of
>   these models to a SCSI drive with termination power supplied tends to blow
>   the drive up! So while it's safe to plug an ex sun-3 drive onto a new
>   system, plugging a new drive onto a 3/60 is potentially a problem! It's ok
>   if you disable "termination power" on the drive, or cut the appropriate pin
>   of the SCSI cable.

The Sun thing is definitely a hardware bug. But drives should not die a
smoking death 'cause the TERMPOWER line should always be current-limited
(fused) of 1.5  amps per the ANSI SCSI standard. In addition a low-drop
(Schottky) diode is normally used to avoid powering switched-off devices
thru the SCSI bus.

Wilko
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#define quoting(Christopher S Johnson)
// I am new to the wold of FreeBSD, but somewhat familiar with Linux and Unix. The problem I am running in to is getting my zip drive to mount. When my system boots up and probes for devices, the zip drive is assigned sd1. Once I log in, based on what I do in Linux, if I try to mount the drive using the command mount /dev/sd1 /zip it returns an error. 

FreeBSD use specific devices for each partition.

If it's a DOS disk, try this:

mount -t msdos /dev/sd1s4 /zip

					Jonny

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> I run a 486/DX2-66 (ASUS SP-3 with onboard NCR-810 SCSI
> controller). This computer runs for about 3 years now (2.0.5, 2.1.0,
> 2.1.5)
> 
> Since about four weeks I keep getting SCSI resets and then the bus is
> dead. No recovery! And it's really strange because the NCR controller
> reports totally different errors before hanging. Here are the error
> reports from the last three crashes (typed in by hand, so the actual
> format may differ):
> 
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> sd1(ncr0:1:0): internal error: cmd00 != 91=(vdsp[0] >> 24)
> ncr0: timeout ccb=f19fbc00 (skip)

I have a PVI486-SP3 with AMD 5x86-133 processor and ASUS PCI-SC200 SCSI
controller. It works very well for me. I had *one* problem initially,
which may be relevant: Some versions of the PVI486-SP3 motherboard (I
have version 1.22) have an "IDE prefetch buffer". This *must be* turned
off if you use PCI bus master cards (such as a 53c810 card). This is
explicitly mentioned in my PVI486-SP3 manual at page 3-15.

Before I turned off the "IDE prefetch buffer" in the BIOS, I got errors
similar to yours.

Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sthaug@nethelp.no