From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sun Nov 29 00:00:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA04489 for freebsd-advocacy-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 00:00:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA04484 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 00:00:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id SAA05357; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 18:30:19 +1030 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) id SAA00818; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 18:30:19 +1030 (CST) Message-ID: <19981129183019.H456@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 18:30:19 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: dyson@iquest.net Cc: wes@softweyr.com, tlambert@primenet.com, advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Linux to be deployed in Mexican schools; Where was FreeBSD? References: <19981129175648.F456@freebie.lemis.com> <199811290733.CAA35884@y.dyson.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <199811290733.CAA35884@y.dyson.net>; from John S. Dyson on Sun, Nov 29, 1998 at 02:33:53AM -0500 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sunday, 29 November 1998 at 2:33:53 -0500, John S. Dyson wrote: > Greg Lehey said: >> >> OK, I must be missing something, but what does System V init have that >> makes it easier to start up or shut down an application? /etc/rc*.d >> isn't the problem: that's a question of scripts, not init. >> > Init supports runmodes (good or bad -- I don't care -- if one doesn't like > it, then don't use them.) OK. The *idea* of run modes seems to make sense, and I wouldn't change the System V method on a system which had it, but how useful is it really? Consider: Run state Meaning BSD init 0 halt halt 1 single user shutdown 2 multi user, Whaat?? no network 3 multiuser (multiuser; stop single user) 4 undefined (most systems) can't see any equivalent on PCs 5 PROM monitor 6 reboot reboot Where's the important difference? > SysV init has an established set of standards for usage of > startup/shutdown files. It doesn't solve ALL problems, but moves > forward, other than just staying idle. Sure, but as I said, that's all a question of scripts. Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message