From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Aug 18 03:28:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA00951 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Tue, 18 Aug 1998 03:28:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (mail.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA00919; Tue, 18 Aug 1998 03:28:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wosch@cs.tu-berlin.de) Received: from caramba.cs.tu-berlin.de (wosch@caramba.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.12]) by mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA29023; Tue, 18 Aug 1998 12:18:56 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from wosch@localhost) by caramba.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.9.1/8.9.0) id MAA16578; Tue, 18 Aug 1998 12:18:54 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19980818121853.A16255@caramba.cs.tu-berlin.de> Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 12:18:53 +0200 From: Wolfram Schneider To: John Birrell , alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/sys netbsd_syscall.h netbsd_syscall.mk References: <199808170346.UAA14301@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In-Reply-To: <199808170346.UAA14301@freefall.freebsd.org>; from John Birrell on Sun, Aug 16, 1998 at 08:46:10PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Can you (or someone else) please update the alpha web pages? http://www.freebsd.org/alpha/ If you don't speak SGML submit the diffs as plain text. Wolfram On 1998-08-16 20:46:10 -0700, John Birrell wrote: > jb 1998/08/16 20:46:10 PDT > > Removed files: > sys/sys netbsd_syscall.h netbsd_syscall.mk > Log: > Remove support for NetBSD syscalls. -- Wolfram Schneider http://freebsd.org/~w/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Aug 18 03:52:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA02856 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Tue, 18 Aug 1998 03:52:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cimlogic.com.au (cimlog.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.51.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA02848; Tue, 18 Aug 1998 03:52:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jb@cimlogic.com.au) Received: (from jb@localhost) by cimlogic.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.7) id VAA27330; Tue, 18 Aug 1998 21:00:32 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from jb) From: John Birrell Message-Id: <199808181100.VAA27330@cimlogic.com.au> Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/sys netbsd_syscall.h netbsd_syscall.mk In-Reply-To: <19980818121853.A16255@caramba.cs.tu-berlin.de> from Wolfram Schneider at "Aug 18, 98 12:18:53 pm" To: wosch@cs.tu-berlin.de (Wolfram Schneider) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 21:00:32 +1000 (EST) Cc: jb@FreeBSD.ORG, alpha@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Wolfram Schneider wrote: > Can you (or someone else) please update the alpha web pages? > http://www.freebsd.org/alpha/ > > If you don't speak SGML submit the diffs as plain text. I'll have a go at SGML if you don't mind checking for silly mistakes. 8-) -- John Birrell - jb@cimlogic.com.au; jb@freebsd.org http://www.cimlogic.com.au/ CIMlogic Pty Ltd, GPO Box 117A, Melbourne Vic 3001, Australia +61 418 353 137 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Aug 20 11:06:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA24416 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 11:06:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mixer.visi.com (mixer.visi.com [209.98.98.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA24339 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 11:05:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nordquis@visi.com) Received: from isis.visi.com (nordquis@isis.visi.com [209.98.98.8]) by mixer.visi.com (8.8.8/8.7.5) with ESMTP id NAA11698; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 13:05:06 -0500 (CDT) Posted-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 13:05:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from nordquis@localhost) by isis.visi.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA25258; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 13:05:04 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199808201805.NAA25258@isis.visi.com> Subject: FreeBSD/Alpha make buildworld stops at groff In-Reply-To: from Doug Rabson at "Aug 12, 98 07:45:16 pm" To: dfr@nlsystems.com (Doug Rabson) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 13:05:04 -0500 (CDT) Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Brent J. Nordquist" Reply-to: "Brent J. Nordquist" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31H (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org | There is a set of userland diffs in | | http://www.freebsd.org/~dfr/alpha-src-diff.gz | | From memory, you should make and install usr.bin/lorder and lib/libkvm | before building the rest. Hmmm. Here's a partial list of the "build-tools" target: [...] bin/rm \ bin/test \ gnu/usr.bin/awk \ gnu/usr.bin/bc \ gnu/usr.bin/grep \ gnu/usr.bin/groff \ gnu/usr.bin/gzip \ gnu/usr.bin/man/makewhatis \ [...] What I'm noticing with "make -m /usr/src/share/mk buildworld" is that it stops right after gnu/usr.bin/groff (which has multiple subdirectories of its own). No errors, the process just ends. Then when you try to "make -m /usr/src/share/mk everything", it dies because gzip, lorder, etc. (and probably others that come after groff) aren't found in the /usr/obj temporary tree. Before I launch into this, has anyone solved this problem yet? -- Brent J. Nordquist / bjn@visi.com | Windows not found W: +1 612 905-7806 | (C)heer, (D)ance, (S)ing? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Aug 20 15:05:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA05511 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 15:05:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cimlogic.com.au (cimlog.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.51.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA05506 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 15:05:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jb@cimlogic.com.au) Received: (from jb@localhost) by cimlogic.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.7) id IAA07334; Fri, 21 Aug 1998 08:14:28 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from jb) From: John Birrell Message-Id: <199808202214.IAA07334@cimlogic.com.au> Subject: Re: FreeBSD/Alpha make buildworld stops at groff In-Reply-To: <199808201805.NAA25258@isis.visi.com> from "Brent J. Nordquist" at "Aug 20, 98 01:05:04 pm" To: bjn@visi.com Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 08:14:27 +1000 (EST) Cc: dfr@nlsystems.com, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Brent J. Nordquist wrote: > What I'm noticing with "make -m /usr/src/share/mk buildworld" is that it > stops right after gnu/usr.bin/groff (which has multiple subdirectories > of its own). No errors, the process just ends. Then when you try to > "make -m /usr/src/share/mk everything", it dies because gzip, lorder, etc. > (and probably others that come after groff) aren't found in the /usr/obj > temporary tree. > > Before I launch into this, has anyone solved this problem yet? Are you running a native kernel? -- John Birrell - jb@cimlogic.com.au; jb@freebsd.org http://www.cimlogic.com.au/ CIMlogic Pty Ltd, GPO Box 117A, Melbourne Vic 3001, Australia +61 418 353 137 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Aug 20 15:13:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA07285 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 15:13:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mixer.visi.com (mixer.visi.com [209.98.98.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA07191 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 15:13:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nordquis@visi.com) Received: from isis.visi.com (nordquis@isis.visi.com [209.98.98.8]) by mixer.visi.com (8.8.8/8.7.5) with ESMTP id RAA29139; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 17:12:38 -0500 (CDT) Posted-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 17:12:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from nordquis@localhost) by isis.visi.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA08508; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 17:12:36 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199808202212.RAA08508@isis.visi.com> Subject: Re: FreeBSD/Alpha make buildworld stops at groff In-Reply-To: <199808202214.IAA07334@cimlogic.com.au> from John Birrell at "Aug 21, 98 08:14:27 am" To: jb@cimlogic.com.au (John Birrell) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 17:12:36 -0500 (CDT) Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Brent J. Nordquist" Reply-to: "Brent J. Nordquist" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31H (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org | Are you running a native kernel? Absolutely, kernel.avanti that you sent me, with the binaries from that big .tar.gz in your home directory (bin, usr/bin, etc.). It compiled partway and then just stopped. Since I posted that message, I've had the kernel panic twice. I'm starting over again on the theory that I've screwed something up. One question: are the NetBSD ffs and FreeBSD ufs filesystems compatible? One thing I didn't do when switching from the John Birrell hybrid environment was re-newfs the filesystems; I've just been mounting them as ufs under the native environment. -- Brent J. Nordquist / bjn@visi.com | Windows not found W: +1 612 905-7806 | (C)heer, (D)ance, (S)ing? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Aug 20 15:16:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA08355 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 15:16:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cimlogic.com.au (cimlog.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.51.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA08275 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 15:16:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jb@cimlogic.com.au) Received: (from jb@localhost) by cimlogic.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.7) id IAA07415; Fri, 21 Aug 1998 08:25:23 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from jb) From: John Birrell Message-Id: <199808202225.IAA07415@cimlogic.com.au> Subject: Re: FreeBSD/Alpha make buildworld stops at groff In-Reply-To: <199808202212.RAA08508@isis.visi.com> from "Brent J. Nordquist" at "Aug 20, 98 05:12:36 pm" To: bjn@visi.com Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 08:25:22 +1000 (EST) Cc: jb@cimlogic.com.au, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Brent J. Nordquist wrote: > | Are you running a native kernel? > > Absolutely, kernel.avanti that you sent me, with the binaries from that > big .tar.gz in your home directory (bin, usr/bin, etc.). It compiled > partway and then just stopped. Ahem. This is me, not Doug. 8-) > > Since I posted that message, I've had the kernel panic twice. > I'm starting over again on the theory that I've screwed something up. > > One question: are the NetBSD ffs and FreeBSD ufs filesystems compatible? > One thing I didn't do when switching from the John Birrell hybrid > environment was re-newfs the filesystems; I've just been mounting them > as ufs under the native environment. No need to newfs. -- John Birrell - jb@cimlogic.com.au; jb@freebsd.org http://www.cimlogic.com.au/ CIMlogic Pty Ltd, GPO Box 117A, Melbourne Vic 3001, Australia +61 418 353 137 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Aug 20 23:03:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA13567 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 23:03:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from po7.andrew.cmu.edu (PO7.ANDREW.CMU.EDU [128.2.10.107]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA13555 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 23:03:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tcrimi+@andrew.cmu.edu) Received: (from postman@localhost) by po7.andrew.cmu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.2) id CAA24556 for freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 21 Aug 1998 02:02:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: via switchmail; Fri, 21 Aug 1998 02:02:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix14.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Fri, 21 Aug 1998 02:00:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix14.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Fri, 21 Aug 1998 02:00:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mms.4.60.Jun.27.1996.03.02.53.sun4.51.EzMail.2.0.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.unix14.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4m.54 via MS.5.6.unix14.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4_51; Fri, 21 Aug 1998 02:00:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 02:00:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Thomas Valentino Crimi To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: E2? Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Has NetBSD's TGA-E2 support also been added into the new FreeBSD Alpha kernel? If so is the install procedure still NetBSD->FreeBSD or has a totally native install been devised? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Aug 20 23:16:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA15014 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 23:16:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cimlogic.com.au (cimlog.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.51.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA15009 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 23:16:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jb@cimlogic.com.au) Received: (from jb@localhost) by cimlogic.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.7) id QAA08897; Fri, 21 Aug 1998 16:25:48 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from jb) From: John Birrell Message-Id: <199808210625.QAA08897@cimlogic.com.au> Subject: Re: E2? In-Reply-To: from Thomas Valentino Crimi at "Aug 21, 98 02:00:56 am" To: tcrimi+@andrew.cmu.edu (Thomas Valentino Crimi) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 16:25:48 +1000 (EST) Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thomas Valentino Crimi wrote: > > > Has NetBSD's TGA-E2 support also been added into the new FreeBSD Alpha > kernel? If so is the install procedure still NetBSD->FreeBSD or has a > totally native install been devised? Not yet. It's a manual install of native bits for the time being. Having NetBSD won't help other that to let you replace the contents with FreeBSD. Some of bits you might want are at http://www.freebsd.org/~dfr/ -- John Birrell - jb@cimlogic.com.au; jb@freebsd.org http://www.cimlogic.com.au/ CIMlogic Pty Ltd, GPO Box 117A, Melbourne Vic 3001, Australia +61 418 353 137 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Aug 21 02:23:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA07610 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Fri, 21 Aug 1998 02:23:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA07585 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 1998 02:23:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (herring.nlsystems.com [10.0.0.2]) by nlsystems.com (8.9.1/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA03822; Fri, 21 Aug 1998 10:22:53 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 10:22:53 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: "Brent J. Nordquist" cc: John Birrell , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD/Alpha make buildworld stops at groff In-Reply-To: <199808202212.RAA08508@isis.visi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 20 Aug 1998, Brent J. Nordquist wrote: > | Are you running a native kernel? > > Absolutely, kernel.avanti that you sent me, with the binaries from that > big .tar.gz in your home directory (bin, usr/bin, etc.). It compiled > partway and then just stopped. > > Since I posted that message, I've had the kernel panic twice. > I'm starting over again on the theory that I've screwed something up. > > One question: are the NetBSD ffs and FreeBSD ufs filesystems compatible? > One thing I didn't do when switching from the John Birrell hybrid > environment was re-newfs the filesystems; I've just been mounting them > as ufs under the native environment. There was a serious bug in fsck which caused 'freeing free frag' and similar panics. Make sure you update and rebuild fsck then forcibly re-check your filesystems with fsck -f /dev/xxx. Since the kernel is still changing fairly rapidly, you must be able to build your own kernels. You can get patches to the -current kernel sources for this in http://www.freebsd.org/~dfr. The latest is alpha-sys-diff-200898.gz. Please also start reading the cvs-commit list so that you can keep track of things like the fsck problem. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 951 1891 Fax: +44 181 381 1039 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Aug 21 02:24:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA07722 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Fri, 21 Aug 1998 02:24:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA07703 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 1998 02:23:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (herring.nlsystems.com [10.0.0.2]) by nlsystems.com (8.9.1/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA03826; Fri, 21 Aug 1998 10:24:46 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 10:24:46 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: John Birrell cc: Thomas Valentino Crimi , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: E2? In-Reply-To: <199808210625.QAA08897@cimlogic.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 21 Aug 1998, John Birrell wrote: > Thomas Valentino Crimi wrote: > > > > > > Has NetBSD's TGA-E2 support also been added into the new FreeBSD Alpha > > kernel? If so is the install procedure still NetBSD->FreeBSD or has a > > totally native install been devised? > > Not yet. It's a manual install of native bits for the time being. Having > NetBSD won't help other that to let you replace the contents with FreeBSD. > Some of bits you might want are at http://www.freebsd.org/~dfr/ We don't support any TGA cards which don't have VGA support at the moment. It would still be possible to boot on a machine with a non-VGA card but you would be stuck with the PROM console. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 951 1891 Fax: +44 181 381 1039 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Aug 21 06:11:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA02180 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Fri, 21 Aug 1998 06:11:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mixer.visi.com (mixer.visi.com [209.98.98.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA02172 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 1998 06:11:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nordquis@visi.com) Received: from isis.visi.com (nordquis@isis.visi.com [209.98.98.8]) by mixer.visi.com (8.8.8/8.7.5) with ESMTP id IAA11263; Fri, 21 Aug 1998 08:10:51 -0500 (CDT) Posted-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 08:10:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from nordquis@localhost) by isis.visi.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA26521; Fri, 21 Aug 1998 08:10:49 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199808211310.IAA26521@isis.visi.com> Subject: Re: FreeBSD/Alpha make buildworld stops at groff In-Reply-To: from Doug Rabson at "Aug 21, 98 10:22:53 am" To: dfr@nlsystems.com (Doug Rabson) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 08:10:49 -0500 (CDT) Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Brent J. Nordquist" Reply-to: "Brent J. Nordquist" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31H (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org | There was a serious bug in fsck which caused 'freeing free frag' and | similar panics. Make sure you update and rebuild fsck then forcibly | re-check your filesystems with fsck -f /dev/xxx. That's the one. Thanks! | Please also start reading the cvs-commit list so that you can keep track | of things like the fsck problem. OK. -- Brent J. Nordquist / bjn@visi.com | Windows not found W: +1 612 905-7806 | (C)heer, (D)ance, (S)ing? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Aug 21 10:42:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA07199 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Fri, 21 Aug 1998 10:42:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA07194 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 1998 10:42:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA01227; Fri, 21 Aug 1998 10:41:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) To: Doug Rabson cc: "Brent J. Nordquist" , John Birrell , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD/Alpha make buildworld stops at groff In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 21 Aug 1998 10:22:53 BST." Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 10:41:22 -0700 Message-ID: <1223.903721282@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Since the kernel is still changing fairly rapidly, you must be able > to build your own kernels. You can get patches to the -current kernel > sources for this in http://www.freebsd.org/~dfr. The latest is > alpha-sys-diff-200898.gz. I managed to do this last night, modulo an edit to ioconf.c that was necessary to get it to compile (several tables were double-defined), and was well chuffed to see my very first alpha kernel compile and link! Then it blew up before probing the ISA devices, like the one you sent me. :-) I've finally got a suitable cable for a serial console - does all of that work the same way on the ALPHA? And how do you get the thing to drop into gdb-remote mode when it falls over this quickly? There's no chance to get into the debugger pre-emptively to type "gdb" for the next trap. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Aug 21 11:54:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA16027 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Fri, 21 Aug 1998 11:54:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA16021 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 1998 11:54:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@duke.cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA09632; Fri, 21 Aug 1998 14:53:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA01792; Fri, 21 Aug 1998 14:53:44 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 14:53:44 -0400 (EDT) To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: Doug Rabson , "Brent J. Nordquist" , John Birrell , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD/Alpha make buildworld stops at groff In-Reply-To: <1223.903721282@time.cdrom.com> References: <1223.903721282@time.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <13789.49021.995565.325186@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jordan K. Hubbard writes: How far do you get, exactly? Do you have an Intel or Cypress SIO? (show config from the SRM console prompt will tell you). One handy tip is to be absolutely certain to configure the root disk to match what you're actually using. It tends to blow up rather spectacularly when it cannot mount root / run init. > I've finally got a suitable cable for a serial console - does all of > that work the same way on the ALPHA? And how do you get the thing to Somewhat. It currently follows what the SRM console is using. If you're using a graphics console, it attempts to use the kbd/monitor, if you have previously 'set console serial' in the SRM, then it uses the serial console. > drop into gdb-remote mode when it falls over this quickly? There's no > chance to get into the debugger pre-emptively to type "gdb" for the > next trap. Make sure to have 'options DDB' defined, then boot with the -d flag. That should drop you into ddb almost immediately after the kernel begins execution. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message