From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 2 02:46:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA19255 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Sun, 2 Aug 1998 02:46:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jazz.snu.ac.kr (jazz.snu.ac.kr [147.46.59.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA19240 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 1998 02:46:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from junker@jazz.snu.ac.kr) Received: (from junker@localhost) by jazz.snu.ac.kr (8.9.0/8.9.0) id SAA02436; Sun, 2 Aug 1998 18:38:12 +0900 (KST) To: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Korean Translation Team moved. From: CHOI Junho Date: 02 Aug 1998 18:38:12 +0900 Message-ID: Lines: 23 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 20.2 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org FYI, Korean FreeBSD Translation Team(doc-kr) is moved to a new location due to recent severe server disk failure(machine is completely gone.. :<) So, new homepage is(euc-kr encoding). http://pimp.snu.ac.kr/doc-kr Mailing list is (majordomo-style) doc-kr@pimp.snu.ac.kr And at this time, another FreeBSD-related translation project, i18n-boot-ko(BootAsia -Installation floppies(sysinstall) with CJK messages) is merged into doc-kr. Please update Translation page. Thanks! -- ----Cool FreeBSD!----MSX Forever!---J.U.N.K.E.R/Beat Snatchers!---- CHOI Junho http://jazz.snu.ac.kr/~junker Distributed Computing System Lab,CS Dept.,Seoul National Univ., ROK To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 2 19:09:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA11302 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Sun, 2 Aug 1998 19:09:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk (sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk [129.215.72.230]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA11291 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 1998 19:09:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from broonie@cassiel.ddns.org) Received: from cassiel.ddns.org (dialup-101.publab.ed.ac.uk [129.215.38.101]) by sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id AAA17494 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 1998 00:06:13 +0100 Received: (from broonie@localhost) by cassiel.ddns.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA17768; Mon, 3 Aug 1998 00:04:48 +0100 Message-ID: <19980803000447.A17692@tardis.ed.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 00:04:47 +0100 From: Mark Brown To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Documentation on boot floppy Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i X-Cookie: What color is a chameleon on a mirror? X-WWW-Homepage: http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~broonie/ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org It would be nice if the documentation on the boot floppy was avalible (more obviously?) from outside the floppy. When installing on my 4Mb machine, I found it was impossible to view the documentation. -- Mark Brown mailto:broonie@tardis.ed.ac.uk (Trying to avoid grumpiness) http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~broonie/ EUFS http://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/filmsoc/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 3 00:21:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA10257 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Mon, 3 Aug 1998 00:21:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp1.ihug.co.nz (smtp1.ihug.co.nz [203.29.160.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA10250 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 1998 00:21:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kontac@icarus.ihug.co.nz) Received: from private (p27-max25.akl.ihug.co.nz [207.212.238.91]) by smtp1.ihug.co.nz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA27943; Mon, 3 Aug 1998 19:21:40 +1200 Message-Id: <199808030721.TAA27943@smtp1.ihug.co.nz> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: kontac@ihug.co.nz To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 19:20:47 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Link Error CC: kontac@ihug.co.nz X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.54) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org non working link on page http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/FAQ109.html#disklabel the errored link being MarkMayo's Zip FAQ at http://vinyl.quickweb.com/mark/FreeBSD/ZIP-FAQ.html Thanks To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 3 01:32:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA19046 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Mon, 3 Aug 1998 01:32:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.jet.es (jet.es [194.179.100.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA18830; Mon, 3 Aug 1998 01:31:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from info@rsmeurope.com) From: info@rsmeurope.com Received: from saleswise-srv.jet.es (info659.jet.es [194.224.182.149]) by mail.jet.es (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA02656; Mon, 3 Aug 1998 08:16:41 -0100 (GMT) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 08:16:41 -0100 (GMT) To: Subject: Last minute holidays!! Message-Id: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org As someone who has previously shown an interest in holidays on Spain's Costa del Sol we thought you might like to visit our latest WEB site relating to rental accommodation on the Costa del Sol, the Canaries and other areas of touristic interest, including the USA. We still have space available for August, so it is not too late! Best regards, Reservations Centre, http://www.rsmeurope.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 3 06:01:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA21395 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Mon, 3 Aug 1998 06:01:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from falk.c2i.net (mail.c2i.net [193.216.100.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA21382 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 1998 06:01:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kvanderl@c2i.net) Received: from c2i.net (mp-40-54.daxnet.no [193.216.40.54]) by falk.c2i.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA19956 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 1998 14:59:19 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <35C5B3B8.73CC585F@c2i.net> Date: Mon, 03 Aug 1998 14:57:29 +0200 From: Knut Richard Vanderloock Reply-To: kvanderl@c2i.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.6-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Installation of the HP DeskJet 690 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org How do i install the HP 690 Deskjet printer ? I've connected it to the parralell port (lpt0) After several tries, I get the printer to feed the paper, (several pages comes out), but it does not write anything. It's not the meaning that there should be so many pages feeded.... All I do is press the printbutton in any editor or browser. What am I doing wrong ? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 3 14:02:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA08198 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Mon, 3 Aug 1998 14:02:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dt053nd2.san.rr.com (dt053nd2.san.rr.com [204.210.34.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA08174 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 1998 14:02:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@dal.net) Received: from dal.net (Studded@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dt053nd2.san.rr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA06068; Mon, 3 Aug 1998 14:02:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@dal.net) Message-ID: <35C6255C.E63572CE@dal.net> Date: Mon, 03 Aug 1998 14:02:20 -0700 From: Studded Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.6-STABLE-0507 i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Brown CC: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Documentation on boot floppy References: <19980803000447.A17692@tardis.ed.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Mark Brown wrote: > > It would be nice if the documentation on the boot floppy was avalible > (more obviously?) from outside the floppy. Can you provide more details as to what you mean by available? Exactly what would you like to see? Keep in mind that every byte on the boot floppy is precious, so the chances that the files can be duplicated in a manner differently than they are now is small. Doug -- *** Chief Operations Officer, DALnet IRC network *** When you don't know where you're going, every road will take you there. - Yiddish Proverb To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 3 14:39:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA15608 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Mon, 3 Aug 1998 14:39:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (envy.ph.ed.ac.uk [129.215.72.168]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA15568 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 1998 14:38:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from broonie@cassiel.ddns.org) Received: from cassiel.ddns.org (dialup-109.publab.ed.ac.uk [129.215.38.109]) by envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id WAA24636 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 1998 22:37:59 +0100 Received: (from broonie@localhost) by cassiel.ddns.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA26505; Mon, 3 Aug 1998 22:33:47 +0100 Message-ID: <19980803223346.A26455@tardis.ed.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 22:33:46 +0100 From: Mark Brown To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Documentation on boot floppy References: <19980803000447.A17692@tardis.ed.ac.uk> <35C6255C.E63572CE@dal.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <35C6255C.E63572CE@dal.net>; from Studded on Mon, Aug 03, 1998 at 02:02:20PM -0700 X-Cookie: You look tired. X-WWW-Homepage: http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~broonie/ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Aug 03, 1998 at 02:02:20PM -0700, Studded wrote: > Mark Brown wrote: > > It would be nice if the documentation on the boot floppy was avalible > > (more obviously?) from outside the floppy. > Can you provide more details as to what you mean by available? Exactly > what would you like to see? Keep in mind that every byte on the boot > floppy is precious, so the chances that the files can be duplicated in a > manner differently than they are now is small. They're there (I assume). The trouble is that any attempt to view them fails, apparently due to lack of memory. After kernel config, I have 1092K free. After that, any attempt to access the documentation (actually view a file) causes a "pid killed, out of swap space" message on tty2 and a complaint about being unable to open the file. Attempting to start a shell to look around the floppy simply caused a similar failure. What I would like to see is something on the web pages saying "here is the documentation on the floppy" (perhaps even "here are the contents of the floppy"). Either that, or providing a low-memory method for viewing the docs. Once my main system becomes idle, I will be able to boot that and take a look around. -- Mark Brown mailto:broonie@tardis.ed.ac.uk (Trying to avoid grumpiness) http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~broonie/ EUFS http://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/filmsoc/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 3 17:47:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA06884 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Mon, 3 Aug 1998 17:47:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dt053nd2.san.rr.com (dt053nd2.san.rr.com [204.210.34.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA06877 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 1998 17:47:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@dal.net) Received: from dal.net (Studded@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dt053nd2.san.rr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA07739; Mon, 3 Aug 1998 17:47:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@dal.net) Message-ID: <35C65A1C.8896AE7B@dal.net> Date: Mon, 03 Aug 1998 17:47:24 -0700 From: Studded Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.6-STABLE-0507 i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Brown CC: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Documentation on boot floppy References: <19980803000447.A17692@tardis.ed.ac.uk> <35C6255C.E63572CE@dal.net> <19980803223346.A26455@tardis.ed.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Mark Brown wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 03, 1998 at 02:02:20PM -0700, Studded wrote: > > > Mark Brown wrote: > > > > It would be nice if the documentation on the boot floppy was avalible > > > (more obviously?) from outside the floppy. > > > Can you provide more details as to what you mean by available? Exactly > > what would you like to see? Keep in mind that every byte on the boot > > floppy is precious, so the chances that the files can be duplicated in a > > manner differently than they are now is small. > > They're there (I assume). The trouble is that any attempt to view them > fails, apparently due to lack of memory. Ahhh... gotcha. Well I seem to recall that you're trying to install in a very low memory situation, which is difficult at best. You can view most of the documentation on the ftp site in the *.TXT documents though. Good luck, Doug -- *** Chief Operations Officer, DALnet IRC network *** When you don't know where you're going, every road will take you there. - Yiddish Proverb To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 3 21:42:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA28438 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Mon, 3 Aug 1998 21:42:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.pcmos.co.jp ([210.225.190.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA28380 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 1998 21:41:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asami@pcmos.co.jp) Received: from asami.pcmos.co.jp ([192.168.0.5]) by ns.pcmos.co.jp (8.8.7/3.6Wbeta7) with SMTP id NAA00422 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 1998 13:45:51 +0900 (JST) Date: Tue, 04 Aug 1998 13:45:31 +0900 From: yoshinori asami To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Message-Id: <35C691EB24E.DB12ASAMI@www.pcmos.co.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver 1.24 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 4 02:32:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA24300 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Tue, 4 Aug 1998 02:32:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA24293; Tue, 4 Aug 1998 02:32:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phk@FreeBSD.org) From: Poul-Henning Kamp Received: (from phk@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id CAA29512; Tue, 4 Aug 1998 02:32:23 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 02:32:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199808040932.CAA29512@freefall.freebsd.org> To: seggers@semyam.dinoco.de, phk@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/7456 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: dialog(3) man page outdated State-Changed-From-To: open-suspended State-Changed-By: phk State-Changed-When: Tue Aug 4 02:31:49 PDT 1998 State-Changed-Why: awaiting patch & committer To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 5 05:30:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA06465 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Wed, 5 Aug 1998 05:30:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from tt01.tech-trans.com ([202.135.11.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA06454 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 1998 05:30:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@sweda.com.hk) Received: from sweda.com.hk ([172.16.132.32]) by tt01.tech-trans.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id AAA2EAC for ; Wed, 5 Aug 1998 20:24:03 +0800 Message-ID: <35C85A49.A72730BD@sweda.com.hk> Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 21:12:41 +0800 From: "Peter Kok" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: freebsd install Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello If my computer directly connect to internet by lease line, how do i install freebsd when using only floppy disk (fdimage). 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Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 3 Aug 1998 08:16:41 -0100 (GMT), info@rsmeurope.com wrote: > >As someone who has previously shown an interest in holidays on >Spain's Costa del Sol we thought you might like to visit our latest >WEB site relating to rental accommodation on the Costa del Sol, the >Canaries and other areas of touristic interest, including the USA. Who should we mail when the list get's spammed like this? Could we filter that domain? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 6 00:20:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA16423 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 00:20:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA16350 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 00:20:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id AAA19926; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 00:20:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from news1.gtn.com (news1.gtn.com [194.77.0.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA16129 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 00:16:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andreas@klemm.gtn.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by news1.gtn.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with UUCP id JAA17563 for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 09:15:08 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from andreas@localhost) by klemm.gtn.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) id JAA03734; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 09:00:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from andreas) Message-Id: <199808060700.JAA03734@klemm.gtn.com> Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 09:00:01 +0200 (CEST) From: Andreas Klemm Reply-To: andreas@klemm.gtn.com To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/7504: sgid bit on directories undocumented in chmod(1) and umask... Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 7504 >Category: docs >Synopsis: sgid bit on directories undocumented in chmod(1) and umask... >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Aug 6 00:20:03 PDT 1998 >Last-Modified: >Originator: Andreas Klemm >Organization: >Release: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386 >Environment: FreeBSD-current and surely -STABLE >Description: The chmod manpage only describes that it's possible to set the s-bit for the directory owner, but it's also possible to set the s bit of a directory, so that files created in this directory get the GID of the directory group and not the GID of the person who created the file. It's possible that the mount manpage has to be updated as well. And ... look at Part II. When I remember right, then the s bit set's also the umask of that directory in SunOS 4 and 5. That makes it possible, to force workgroups to an umask of 002. Would that be a wanted feature or is it missing here ??? Other voices. >How-To-Repeat: Part I ====== mkdir foo touch foo/before ls -l foo/before -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 0 6 Aug 08:47 before chgrp operator foo chmod g+s operator ls -ld foo drwxr-sr-x 2 root operator 512 6 Aug 08:47 foo touch foo/after_sbit ls -l foo/after_sbit -rw-r--r-- 1 root operator 0 6 Aug 08:49 after_sbit ^^^^^^^^ Part II ======= chmod g+w ls -ld foo drwxrwsr-x 2 root operator 512 6 Aug 08:49 foo ^ ! touch foo/after_g+w ls -l foo/after_g+w -rw-r--r-- 1 root operator 0 6 Aug 08:51 after_g+w ^ ?! missing ? >Fix: Doku fix for chmod(1), chmod(2) and possibly mount(1) Concerning mount: there is a suiddir option, do we need a sgiddir option as well ??? >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 6 01:27:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA23826 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 01:27:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pinto.unsyiah.ac.id (pinto.unsyiah.ac.id [167.205.153.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA23802 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 01:27:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from elyaharis@hotmail.com) Received: from unet-103 ([10.10.11.103]) by pinto.unsyiah.ac.id (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA01802 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 15:32:14 GMT Message-ID: <33E9A3A0.2F69@hotmail.com> Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 03:29:53 -0700 From: "elyaharis@hotmail.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: subscript Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 6 07:40:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA14533 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 07:40:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA14503 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 07:40:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id HAA10175; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 07:40:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 07:40:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199808061440.HAA10175@freefall.freebsd.org> To: doc@FreeBSD.ORG From: Matthew Hunt Subject: Re: docs/7504: sgid bit on directories undocumented in chmod(1) and umask... Reply-To: Matthew Hunt Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/7504; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Matthew Hunt To: andreas@klemm.gtn.com, FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Subject: Re: docs/7504: sgid bit on directories undocumented in chmod(1) and umask... Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 10:33:25 -0400 On Thu, Aug 06, 1998 at 09:00:01AM +0200, Andreas Klemm wrote: > The chmod manpage only describes that it's possible to > set the s-bit for the directory owner, but it's also > possible to set the s bit of a directory, so that files > created in this directory get the GID of the directory > group and not the GID of the person who created the file. But... you describe the normal behavior of directories under BSD, regardless of the g+s bit! Been hanging out in SysV land too much these days? :-) flarn:~/tmp$ mkdir spoo flarn:~/tmp$ ls -ld spoo drwxrwxr-x 2 mph mph 512 Aug 6 10:31 spoo flarn:~/tmp$ touch spoo/fresh flarn:~/tmp$ ls -l spoo total 0 -rw-rw-r-- 1 mph mph 0 Aug 6 10:32 fresh flarn:~/tmp$ chown :wheel spoo flarn:~/tmp$ touch spoo/daily flarn:~/tmp$ ls -l spoo total 0 -rw-rw-r-- 1 mph wheel 0 Aug 6 10:32 daily -rw-rw-r-- 1 mph mph 0 Aug 6 10:32 fresh -- Matthew Hunt * Inertia is a property of matter. http://www.pobox.com/~mph/pgp.key for PGP public key 0x67203349. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 6 21:22:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA20213 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 21:22:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mailsorter-105.bryant.webtv.net (mailsorter-105.iap.bryant.webtv.net [207.79.35.95]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA20208 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 21:22:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joshwrenn99@webtv.net) Received: from mailtod-212.iap.bryant.webtv.net (mailtod-212.iap.bryant.webtv.net [192.216.128.84]) by mailsorter-105.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8/ms.gso.08Dec97) with ESMTP id VAA15745; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 21:22:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from production@localhost) by mailtod-212.iap.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.5/mt.gso.26Feb98) id VAA28731; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 21:22:04 -0700 (PDT) X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAsAhQtsdOFOHmQKz/PwvIiCZjLwljCmgIUPR7fMWN29bmXWCC1Mm7QkCAMu3A= From: joshwrenn99@webtv.net (joshua wrenn) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 21:22:04 -0700 (MST) To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: FREE GIFES Message-ID: <1882-35CA80EC-5901@mailtod-212.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org TODAY MY BRITDAY TODAY CAN I GET A FREE GIFES JWRENN-99 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 6 21:50:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA23474 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 21:50:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA23397 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 21:49:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id OAA27235; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 14:19:27 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) id OAA13678; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 14:19:03 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: <19980807141903.C13559@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 14:19:03 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: joshua wrenn , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FREE GIFES References: <1882-35CA80EC-5901@mailtod-212.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <1882-35CA80EC-5901@mailtod-212.iap.bryant.webtv.net>; from joshua wrenn on Thu, Aug 06, 1998 at 09:22:04PM -0700 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thursday, 6 August 1998 at 21:22:04 -0700, joshua wrenn wrote: > TODAY MY BRITDAY TODAY CAN I GET A FREE GIFES Hmmm. This even beats "born yesterday". Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 6 23:07:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA01855 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 23:07:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA01840; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 23:07:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phk@FreeBSD.org) From: Poul-Henning Kamp Received: (from phk@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id XAA16364; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 23:07:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 23:07:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199808070607.XAA16364@freefall.freebsd.org> To: andreas@klemm.gtn.com, phk@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/7504 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: sgid bit on directories undocumented in chmod(1) and umask... State-Changed-From-To: open-closed State-Changed-By: phk State-Changed-When: Thu Aug 6 23:06:57 PDT 1998 State-Changed-Why: misunderstood behaviour. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 7 00:23:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA14542 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 00:23:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ifi.uio.no (ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA14501 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 00:23:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dag-erli@ifi.uio.no) Received: from hrotti.ifi.uio.no (2602@hrotti.ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.15]) by ifi.uio.no (8.8.8/8.8.7/ifi0.2) with ESMTP id JAA06385; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 09:22:56 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from dag-erli@localhost) by hrotti.ifi.uio.no ; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 09:22:55 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: joshwrenn99@webtv.net (joshua wrenn) Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FREE GIFES References: <1882-35CA80EC-5901@mailtod-212.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Organization: University of Oslo, Department of Informatics X-url: http://www.stud.ifi.uio.no/~dag-erli/ X-other-addresses: 'finger dag-erli@ifi.uio.no' for a list X-disclaimer-1: The views expressed in this article are mine alone, and do X-disclaimer-2: not necessarily coincide with those of any organisation or X-disclaimer-3: company with which am or have been affiliated. X-Stop-Spam: http://www.cauce.org/ From: dag-erli@ifi.uio.no (Dag-Erling Coidan =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?= ) Date: 07 Aug 1998 09:22:55 +0200 In-Reply-To: joshwrenn99@webtv.net's message of "Thu, 6 Aug 1998 21:22:04 -0700 (MST)" Message-ID: Lines: 10 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id AAA14528 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org joshwrenn99@webtv.net (joshua wrenn) writes: > TODAY MY BRITDAY TODAY CAN I GET A FREE GIFES > > JWRENN-99 Translation anyone? (what language is it, anyway?) DES -- Dag-Erling Smørgrav - dag-erli@ifi.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 7 02:26:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA05432 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 02:26:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA05318 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 02:25:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id SAA27974; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 18:55:00 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) id SAA14460; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 18:54:59 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: <19980807185458.H13559@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 18:54:58 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dag-Erling_Coidan_Sm=F8rgrav?= , joshua wrenn Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FREE GIFES References: <1882-35CA80EC-5901@mailtod-212.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=3Cxzphfzpp86o=2Efsf=40hrotti=2Eifi=2Euio=2Eno=3E=3B_from?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?_Dag-Erling_Coidan_Sm=F8rgrav__on_Fri=2C_Aug_07=2C_1998_a?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?t_09:22:55AM_+0200?= WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Friday, 7 August 1998 at 9:22:55 +0200, Dag-Erling Coidan Smørgrav wrote: > joshwrenn99@webtv.net (joshua wrenn) writes: >> TODAY MY BRITDAY TODAY CAN I GET A FREE GIFES >> >> JWRENN-99 > > Translation anyone? (what language is it, anyway?) I thought you spoke French. "Gifle" means "slap". Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 7 02:48:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA09311 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 02:48:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ifi.uio.no (ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA09297 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 02:48:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dag-erli@ifi.uio.no) Received: from hrotti.ifi.uio.no (2602@hrotti.ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.15]) by ifi.uio.no (8.8.8/8.8.7/ifi0.2) with ESMTP id LAA20136; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 11:48:27 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from dag-erli@localhost) by hrotti.ifi.uio.no ; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 11:48:26 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Greg Lehey Cc: "Dag-Erling Coidan =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?=2C?= joshua wrenn" , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FREE GIFES References: <1882-35CA80EC-5901@mailtod-212.iap.bryant.webtv.net> <19980807185458.H13559@freebie.lemis.com> Organization: University of Oslo, Department of Informatics X-url: http://www.stud.ifi.uio.no/~dag-erli/ X-other-addresses: 'finger dag-erli@ifi.uio.no' for a list X-disclaimer-1: The views expressed in this article are mine alone, and do X-disclaimer-2: not necessarily coincide with those of any organisation or X-disclaimer-3: company with which am or have been affiliated. X-Stop-Spam: http://www.cauce.org/ From: dag-erli@ifi.uio.no (Dag-Erling Coidan =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?= ) Date: 07 Aug 1998 11:48:25 +0200 In-Reply-To: Greg Lehey's message of "Fri, 7 Aug 1998 18:54:58 +0930" Message-ID: Lines: 15 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id CAA09303 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Greg Lehey writes: > On Friday, 7 August 1998 at 9:22:55 +0200, Dag-Erling Coidan Smørgrav wrote: > > joshwrenn99@webtv.net (joshua wrenn) writes: > > > TODAY MY BRITDAY TODAY CAN I GET A FREE GIFES > > > > > > JWRENN-99 > > Translation anyone? (what language is it, anyway?) > I thought you spoke French. "Gifle" means "slap". Yes, but I didn't recognize it without the L. So Josh wants free slaps for his birthday? I'll be happy to oblige. DES -- Dag-Erling Smørgrav - dag-erli@ifi.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 7 11:40:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA25020 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 11:40:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ifi.uio.no (ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA25014 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 11:40:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dag-erli@ifi.uio.no) Received: from hrotti.ifi.uio.no (2602@hrotti.ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.15]) by ifi.uio.no (8.8.8/8.8.7/ifi0.2) with ESMTP id UAA13267 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 20:40:04 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from dag-erli@localhost) by hrotti.ifi.uio.no ; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 20:40:03 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: www/en/internal/homepage.pl is a major PITA Organization: University of Oslo, Department of Informatics X-url: http://www.stud.ifi.uio.no/~dag-erli/ X-other-addresses: 'finger dag-erli@ifi.uio.no' for a list X-disclaimer-1: The views expressed in this article are mine alone, and do X-disclaimer-2: not necessarily coincide with those of any organisation or X-disclaimer-3: company with which am or have been affiliated. X-Stop-Spam: http://www.cauce.org/ From: dag-erli@ifi.uio.no (Dag-Erling Coidan =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?= ) Date: 07 Aug 1998 20:40:03 +0200 Message-ID: Lines: 111 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id LAA25015 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The Perl scrip www/en/internal/homepage.pl (which generates a list of homepages on a site, and is run by the Makefile in en/internal) poses several problems. In no particular order: First, mirror sites may not want to generate such a list at all. It would definitely be incorrect/incomplete, since the page is supposed to list the homepages of FreeBSD developers and core members who have accounts on freefall. A mirror may run as a virtual host on a machine that serves several different purposes, and it may be undesirable to disclose the list that the script generates. Second, the script crashes and burns if it doesn't find any pages. Why? What is wrong with an empty list? Will it prevent the server from running properly? IMHO this is pure, unadultered brain damage. It only serves to piss off mirror maintainers by forcing them to edit either the makefile or the script to get the mirror to compile. Third, it assumes that the mirror is running on an NCSA-derived server (such as Apache) with a default configuration. I happen to prefer www_docs to public_html (if only from old habit) and always configure my servers to use www_docs. This should at the very least be possible to specify on the make command line. Fourth, the "disable daemons" and "uucp accounts" code in the while loop in the script is bogus. I've never yet seen a daemon or UUCP account with a home directory that contains a www_docs or public_html directory; simply checking for the existence of such a directory is more than enough. BTW, how can you be sure that there are no legitimate users whose login name begins with an uppercase U? Fifth, even if it were not bogus, the abovementioned code should compare the shell against the contents of /etc/shells rather than relying on heuristics such as: next if $shell =~~m%/(pppd|sliplogin|nologin|nonexistent)$%; Sixth, the server name is hardcoded in the script, which means that even if it doesn't get hit by any of the above, it will produce nothing but a nice long list of dangling links. Seventh, it should not rely on the existence of /etc/passwd, but use getpwent(). Eight, the script should print the
    and
tags itself rather than relying on them to be in homepage.sgml. If the script does not produce any output, compilation of homepage.sgml will fail because the list has no items. Ninth, since there is no reliable way to determine whether the list of homepages has changed from one day to the next (assuming you rebuild the mirror daily, which I do), homepage.inc should *always* be rebuilt. So, please, at the *very* least apply these patches, and if possible, reevaluate the entire code. ---cut--- --- Makefile.orig Fri Aug 7 20:29:13 1998 +++ Makefile Fri Aug 7 20:30:07 1998 @@ -8,6 +8,9 @@ DOCS+= mirror.sgml DOCS+= resignation.sgml +.BEGIN: + @rm -f homepage.inc + homepage.inc: perl homepage.pl > ${.TARGET} --- homepage.pl.orig Fri Aug 7 20:21:32 1998 +++ homepage.pl Fri Aug 7 20:26:51 1998 @@ -1,5 +1,9 @@ #!/usr/bin/perl +if (`hostname` ne "freefall.freebsd.org") { + exit(0); +} + $passwd = '/etc/passwd'; $homepagedir = 'public_html'; @index = ('index.html', 'index.cgi'); @@ -41,10 +45,11 @@ die "No users found!\n"; } +print "
    \n"; foreach (sort @pages) { ($gcos, $login) = split(/:/); ($firstgecos, @gecos) = split(/,/, $gcos); print qq{
  1. }, $firstgecos, " ", join(', ', @gecos), "
    2. \n"; } - +print "
\n"; --- homepage.sgml.orig Fri Aug 7 20:30:34 1998 +++ homepage.sgml Fri Aug 7 20:27:00 1998 @@ -10,9 +10,7 @@ &header; -
    &homepage; -
&footer; ---cut--- DES -- Dag-Erling Smørgrav - dag-erli@ifi.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 7 11:55:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA27050 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 11:55:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ifi.uio.no (ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA27045 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 11:55:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dag-erli@ifi.uio.no) Received: from hrotti.ifi.uio.no (2602@hrotti.ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.15]) by ifi.uio.no (8.8.8/8.8.7/ifi0.2) with ESMTP id UAA14495 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 20:55:09 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from dag-erli@localhost) by hrotti.ifi.uio.no ; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 20:55:08 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: More www breakage Organization: University of Oslo, Department of Informatics X-url: http://www.stud.ifi.uio.no/~dag-erli/ X-other-addresses: 'finger dag-erli@ifi.uio.no' for a list X-disclaimer-1: The views expressed in this article are mine alone, and do X-disclaimer-2: not necessarily coincide with those of any organisation or X-disclaimer-3: company with which am or have been affiliated. X-Stop-Spam: http://www.cauce.org/ From: dag-erli@ifi.uio.no (Dag-Erling Coidan =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?= ) Date: 07 Aug 1998 20:55:07 +0200 Message-ID: Lines: 20 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id LAA27046 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ===> en/tutorials "Makefile", line 18: Could not find ../web.mk make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. This is caused by assuming that the www and doc modules are checked out in the same directory. This assumption is not provably valid unless it is documented somewhere that such is the standard procedure. As it is, I'll just move my my www sources to reside next to my doc sources because I can't be buggered to wait for a fix, so it's not a big issue, put it is a PITA to have to do it. DES -- Dag-Erling Smørgrav - dag-erli@ifi.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 7 15:54:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA13095 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 15:54:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from canonware.com (canonware.com [206.184.206.112]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA13075 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 15:54:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jasone@canonware.com) Received: (qmail 9312 invoked by uid 1001); 7 Aug 1998 22:51:06 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 7 Aug 1998 22:51:06 -0000 Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 15:51:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason Evans To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Search engine on web site flakey. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have experienced poor results with the http://www.freebsd.org/search.html search engine. In particular, I have used it many times over the past couple of years to look for information in the mail archives. For the last 9 months I have been subscribed to many of the lists, and I specifically remember email messages that I can not get the search engine to find. Here are the problems I think I'm seeing: 1) Threads seem to be disjoint. If i find a message from a thread, I can't find all of the messages that originally belonged to the thread. 2) Searches apparently don't include the mail headers in the search. This makes a whole slew of searches impractical. 3) Sorting could use secondary sorting, so that it would be possible to find all articles by an author, sorted by date. 4) Limiting the number of results apparently causes the search engine to stop as soon as it finds N results, then sort them. Instead, all matches should be found, sorted, then the first N displayed. I'm guessing that 4) is the root of most of the evil I'm experiencing. Any comments? Thanks, Jason P.S. Please keep me CCed, since I'm not subscribed to this list. 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