From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Oct 11 13:19:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA01839 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 13:19:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gamma.aei.ca (gamma.aei.ca [206.123.6.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA01832 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 13:19:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from malartre@aei.ca) Received: from aei.ca (dialA3f.aei.ca [206.123.6.83]) by gamma.aei.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA15974 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 16:19:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <36210651.41A1EA5A@aei.ca> Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 15:26:09 -0400 From: Malartre X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.7-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: man undelete Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org $ man rm SEE ALSO rmdir(1), undelete(2), unlink(2), fts(3), getopt(3), etc... $ man undelete No manual entry for undelete $ What's that undelete? -- [Malartre][malartre@aei.ca][http://www.aei.ca/~malartre/] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Oct 11 17:13:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA10482 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 17:13:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA10456; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 17:13:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id JAA16436; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 09:43:38 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) id JAA26452; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 09:43:10 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: <19981012094309.I24503@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 09:43:09 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Malartre Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: undelete(2) (was: man undelete) References: <36210651.41A1EA5A@aei.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <36210651.41A1EA5A@aei.ca>; from Malartre on Sun, Oct 11, 1998 at 03:26:09PM -0400 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sunday, 11 October 1998 at 15:26:09 -0400, Malartre wrote: > $ man rm > SEE ALSO > rmdir(1), undelete(2), unlink(2), fts(3), getopt(3), etc... > $ man undelete > No manual entry for undelete > $ > What's that undelete? I suppose you sent this to -doc because you thought it was a documentation bug. In fact, there *is* an undelete(2). I don't know why you don't have the man page. > NAME > undelete - attempt to recover a deleted file > > SYNOPSIS > #include > > int > undelete(const char *path) > > DESCRIPTION > The undelete() function attempts to recover the deleted file named by > path. Currently, this works only when the named object is a whiteout in a > union filesystem. The system call removes the whiteout causing any ob- > jects in a lower layer of the union stack to become visible once more. > > Eventually, the undelete functionality may be expanded to other filesys- > tems able to recover deleted files such as the log-structured filesystem. In other words, it's not going to help you much if you delete a file and want to get it back. Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Oct 12 08:20:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA08324 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 08:20:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA08257 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 08:20:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id IAA19231; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 08:20:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA07774; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 08:16:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <199810121516.IAA07774@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 08:16:45 -0700 (PDT) From: yohta@bres.tsukuba.ac.jp To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/8286: keyserv.8 has not necessary section(AVAILABILITY) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 8286 >Category: docs >Synopsis: keyserv.8 has not necessary section(AVAILABILITY) >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Oct 12 08:20:00 PDT 1998 >Last-Modified: >Originator: Yoshihiko OHTA >Organization: University of Tsukuba >Release: FreeBSD-current >Environment: FreeBSD-current >Description: man page of keyserv(8) has following description: AVAILABILITY SUNWcsu This section may comes from SunOS man page is not necessary in FreeeBSD, and make no sense. I found same description in rpcgen.1, but it was commented out. >How-To-Repeat: man 8 keyserv >Fix: I suggest to apply this patch to src/usr.sbin/keyserv/keyserv.8 --- keyserv.8.orig Sat Oct 10 15:12:23 1998 +++ keyserv.8 Tue Oct 13 00:15:59 1998 @@ -16,8 +16,8 @@ .Op Fl n .Op Fl p Ar path .Op Fl v -.Sh AVAILABILITY -SUNWcsu +.\" .Sh AVAILABILITY +.\" SUNWcsu .Sh DESCRIPTION .Nm Keyserv is a daemon that is used for storing the >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Oct 12 08:53:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA13086 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 08:53:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pluto.plutotech.com (mail.plutotech.com [206.168.67.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA13081 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 08:53:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kelly@plutotech.com) Received: from plutotech.com (tampopo.plutotech.com [206.168.67.161]) by pluto.plutotech.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA03263; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 09:53:08 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <362225E4.7EFE1BD@plutotech.com> Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 09:53:08 -0600 From: Sean Kelly Organization: Pluto Technologies X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Robert A. Bruce" CC: doc@FreeBSD.ORG, rab@pike.cdrom.com Subject: Re: Publishing the FreeBSD Handbook and FAQ References: <199810080459.VAA15607@pike.cdrom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Robert A. Bruce wrote: > > ... That is about the same > time FreeBSD 3.0.2 will be appearing (the first "-stable" release of > the 3.X branch), so we would like to update the Handbook and FAQ so > they document 3.X instead of 2.X. Does anybody have a guess about > how much work this will take? Good question. I can speak for the two sections I wrote on printing and terminals, though: based on what I've seen in 3.0 so far, they shouldn't need any changes. Other sections might not be so lucky. Authors, make your voices heard! --Sean To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Oct 13 01:15:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA19167 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 01:15:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA19155; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 01:14:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkoshy@FreeBSD.org) From: Joseph Koshy Received: (from jkoshy@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id BAA22421; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 01:14:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 01:14:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810130814.BAA22421@freefall.freebsd.org> To: yohta@bres.tsukuba.ac.jp, jkoshy@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/8286 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: keyserv.8 has not necessary section(AVAILABILITY) State-Changed-From-To: open-closed State-Changed-By: jkoshy State-Changed-When: Tue Oct 13 01:12:34 PDT 1998 State-Changed-Why: Fixed in rev 1.4 of "src/usr.sbin/keyserv/keyserv.8", thanks! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Oct 13 01:54:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA24585 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 01:54:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA24538; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 01:53:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkoshy@FreeBSD.org) From: Joseph Koshy Received: (from jkoshy@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id BAA23889; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 01:53:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 01:53:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810130853.BAA23889@freefall.freebsd.org> To: axl@iafrica.com, jkoshy@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/8229 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: [PATCH] src/bin/cp/cp.1 nits State-Changed-From-To: open-closed State-Changed-By: jkoshy State-Changed-When: Tue Oct 13 01:53:05 PDT 1998 State-Changed-Why: Fixed in rev 1.11 of "src/bin/cp/cp.1", thanks! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Oct 13 01:58:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA25138 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 01:58:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA25102; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 01:58:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkoshy@FreeBSD.org) From: Joseph Koshy Received: (from jkoshy@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id BAA24085; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 01:58:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 01:58:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810130858.BAA24085@freefall.freebsd.org> To: vanitas@ma3.seikyou.ne.jp, jkoshy@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/8216 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: 5 typos in doscmd.1 State-Changed-From-To: open-closed State-Changed-By: jkoshy State-Changed-When: Tue Oct 13 01:56:59 PDT 1998 State-Changed-Why: Fixed in rev 1.8 of "src/usr.bin/doscmd/doscmd.1", thanks! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Oct 13 02:14:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA26907 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 02:14:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: (from jkoshy@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA26898; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 02:14:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkoshy) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 02:14:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Joseph Koshy Message-Id: <199810130914.CAA26898@hub.freebsd.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Sue Blake cc: Eivind Eklund , Justin Clift , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, kpielorz@tdx.co.uk Subject: Re: *very* important addition to the installation instructions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >>>> "Sue Blake" writes sb> Add another sentence, to become: sb> It is also possible that a probe for a device not present will cause sb> a later probe for another device that is present to fail. In that case, sb> the probes for the conflicting driver(s) should be disabled. Do not sb> disable any device you will need during installation, such as your sb> screen (sc0). Added to revision 1.67 of "doc/handbook/install.sgml", thanks! Koshy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Oct 13 04:37:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA12991 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 04:37:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns1.yes.no (ns1.yes.no [195.204.136.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA12980 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 04:37:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eivind@bitbox.follo.net) Received: from bitbox.follo.net (bitbox.follo.net [195.204.143.218]) by ns1.yes.no (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA03156; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 13:36:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from eivind@localhost) by bitbox.follo.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) id NAA18088; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 13:36:44 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19981013133644.50562@follo.net> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 13:36:44 +0200 From: Eivind Eklund To: "Robert A. Bruce" , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Publishing the FreeBSD Handbook and FAQ References: <199810080459.VAA15607@pike.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: <199810080459.VAA15607@pike.cdrom.com>; from Robert A. Bruce on Wed, Oct 07, 1998 at 09:59:34PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Oct 07, 1998 at 09:59:34PM -0700, Robert A. Bruce wrote: > Howdy, > We are planning to print books containing the FreeBSD Handbook and FAQ. > We hope to send it to the printer in about 60 days. It takes about > three weeks to prepare the plates, and print the books and about another > month for the books to show up in the bookstores. So they should be > hitting the shelves around January/February. That is about the same > time FreeBSD 3.0.2 will be appearing (the first "-stable" release of > the 3.X branch), so we would like to update the Handbook and FAQ so > they document 3.X instead of 2.X. Does anybody have a guess about > how much work this will take? Are there any other major changes that > need to be made before these documents are published? If you have some amount of manpower, it would be prudent to go through the entire handbook and 'take notes' of what needs to be changed. Ideally, the entire handbook should have a careful editor go through and fix it to (1) Have the same style throughout (language choices) (2) Have each section organized in a 'build-up' fashion, starting from almost no assumptions about what the user knows (or references to what should have been read before) and building up to the full gory details. (3) Be fully marked up in DocBook instead of LinuxDoc. (4) Contain relevant illustrations. Nik Clayton has started doing point 3 - I don't know when he'll be finished or if he would be willing to do some of the other tasks for money. Nik? Eivind. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Oct 13 05:10:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA15676 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 05:10:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pike.cdrom.com (pike.cdrom.com [204.216.28.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA15671 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 05:10:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rab@pike.cdrom.com) Received: from pike.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by pike.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id FAA13369; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 05:12:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rab@pike.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199810131212.FAA13369@pike.cdrom.com> To: Eivind Eklund cc: "Robert A. Bruce" , doc@FreeBSD.ORG, rab@pike.cdrom.com Subject: Re: Publishing the FreeBSD Handbook and FAQ In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 13 Oct 1998 13:36:44 +0200." <19981013133644.50562@follo.net> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 05:12:35 -0700 From: "Robert A. Bruce" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Eivind Eklund said... >If you have some amount of manpower, it would be prudent to go through >the entire handbook and 'take notes' of what needs to be changed. > >Ideally, the entire handbook should have a careful editor go through >and fix it to >(1) Have the same style throughout (language choices) Different parts to the book have different styles, some parts are "folksy" while others are more formal. But I don't agree that this is necessarily a "problem" that needs to be fixed. As long as the information is technically correct, I don't think it is a big deal if the style varies from chapter to chapter. >(2) Have each section organized in a 'build-up' fashion, starting from > almost no assumptions about what the user knows (or references to > what should have been read before) and building up to the full > gory details. >(3) Be fully marked up in DocBook instead of LinuxDoc. What is the advantage of DocBook over LinuxDoc? >(4) Contain relevant illustrations. Do you have a list of where illustrations are needed? Is there a standard way of putting illustrations into an SGML document? -bob To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Oct 13 06:16:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA21749 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 06:16:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns1.yes.no (ns1.yes.no [195.204.136.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA21741 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 06:16:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eivind@bitbox.follo.net) Received: from bitbox.follo.net (bitbox.follo.net [195.204.143.218]) by ns1.yes.no (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA05556; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 15:15:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from eivind@localhost) by bitbox.follo.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) id PAA18438; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 15:15:48 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19981013151548.43593@follo.net> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 15:15:48 +0200 From: Eivind Eklund To: "Robert A. Bruce" Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG, rab@pike.cdrom.com Subject: Re: Publishing the FreeBSD Handbook and FAQ References: <19981013133644.50562@follo.net> <199810131212.FAA13369@pike.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: <199810131212.FAA13369@pike.cdrom.com>; from Robert A. Bruce on Tue, Oct 13, 1998 at 05:12:35AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Oct 13, 1998 at 05:12:35AM -0700, Robert A. Bruce wrote: > Eivind Eklund said... > >If you have some amount of manpower, it would be prudent to go through > >the entire handbook and 'take notes' of what needs to be changed. > > > >Ideally, the entire handbook should have a careful editor go through > >and fix it to > >(1) Have the same style throughout (language choices) > > Different parts to the book have different styles, some parts are > "folksy" while others are more formal. But I don't agree that this > is necessarily a "problem" that needs to be fixed. As long as the > information is technically correct, I don't think it is a big deal > if the style varies from chapter to chapter. It depends on whether we want it to feel as a coherent work or as a set of random collected writings. It is not very important, but it would add a much more professional feel to it. > >(2) Have each section organized in a 'build-up' fashion, starting from > > almost no assumptions about what the user knows (or references to > > what should have been read before) and building up to the full > > gory details. > >(3) Be fully marked up in DocBook instead of LinuxDoc. > > What is the advantage of DocBook over LinuxDoc? It is a much richer markup, made for creating computer books. This mean there is support for tables, sidebars, formatting examples and code sanely, etc. It would allow you to make a truly good looking book instead of something that just look like a computer printout. O'Reilly has "standardized" on DocBook for their books (they request that all new books are marked up in this, though I've understood it as if they still sometimes accept things marked up in *roff). > >(4) Contain relevant illustrations. > > Do you have a list of where illustrations are needed? Is there > a standard way of putting illustrations into an SGML document? No and yes, respectively. Nik has details on how to insert illustrations in his head (and I have them stored away on my hard drive, and can probably dig them up if need be). IMO: The handbook really need somebody to read it before publishing it :-) Eivind. 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------=_NextPart_000_006E_01BDF70A.B4D67890-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Oct 13 12:48:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA09321 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 12:48:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ifi.uio.no (ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA09280; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 12:48:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dag-erli@ifi.uio.no) Received: from olvaldi.ifi.uio.no (2602@olvaldi.ifi.uio.no [129.240.65.43]) by ifi.uio.no (8.8.8/8.8.7/ifi0.2) with ESMTP id VAA25984; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 21:47:57 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from dag-erli@localhost) by olvaldi.ifi.uio.no ; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 21:47:57 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Help References: <007301bdf702$54bf7270$f4d36ac2@angel.baku.az> Organization: University of Oslo, Department of Informatics X-url: http://www.stud.ifi.uio.no/~dag-erli/ X-other-addresses: 'finger dag-erli@ifi.uio.no' for a list X-disclaimer-1: The views expressed in this article are mine alone, and do X-disclaimer-2: not necessarily coincide with those of any organisation or X-disclaimer-3: company with which I am or have been affiliated. X-Stop-Spam: http://www.cauce.org/ From: dag-erli@ifi.uio.no (Dag-Erling C. =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?= ) Date: 13 Oct 1998 21:47:56 +0200 In-Reply-To: "Farid F. Kourbanov"'s message of "Wed, 14 Oct 1998 00:36:39 +0100" Message-ID: Lines: 20 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id MAA09305 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Farid F. Kourbanov" writes: > HELP I need somebody, "Farid F. Kourbanov" writes: > HELP Not just anybody, "Farid F. Kourbanov" writes: > HELP You know I need someone, Wooo-hoo! McDES (I know. I'm too tired.) -- Dag-Erling Sm鷨grav - dag-erli@ifi.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Oct 13 15:40:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA11918 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 15:40:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA11780 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 15:40:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id PAA29404; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 15:40:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nebula.sf.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp (nebula.sf.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp [133.11.87.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA11595 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 15:38:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from amakawa@nebula.sf.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp) Received: (from amakawa@localhost) by nebula.sf.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA00757; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 07:38:01 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from amakawa) Message-Id: <199810132238.HAA00757@nebula.sf.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 07:38:01 +0900 (JST) From: amakawa@sf.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp Reply-To: amakawa@nebula.sf.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/8310: [PATCH] possible typo in tickadj.8 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 8310 >Category: docs >Synopsis: possible typo in tickadj.8 >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Oct 13 15:40:01 PDT 1998 >Last-Modified: >Originator: Amakawa Shuhei >Organization: Univ. of Tokyo >Release: FreeBSD 2.2.7-RELEASE i386 >Environment: FreeBSD 2.2.7-RELEASE i386 >Description: I *think* the man page of `adjtime' is found only in section 2, but it is referred to as adjtime(8) in /usr/src/usr.sbin/xntpd/doc/tickadj.8. >How-To-Repeat: man tickadj >Fix: *** tickadj.8.orig Wed Oct 14 06:09:20 1998 --- tickadj.8 Wed Oct 14 06:09:49 1998 *************** *** 135,141 **** Fiddling with kernel variables at run time as a part of ordinary operations is a hideous practice which is only necessary to make up for deficiencies in the implementation of ! .IR adjtime (8) in many kernels and/or brokenness of the system clock in some vendors' kernels. It would be much better if the kernels were fixed and the --- 135,141 ---- Fiddling with kernel variables at run time as a part of ordinary operations is a hideous practice which is only necessary to make up for deficiencies in the implementation of ! .IR adjtime (2) in many kernels and/or brokenness of the system clock in some vendors' kernels. It would be much better if the kernels were fixed and the >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Oct 13 15:59:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA14727 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 15:59:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA14660; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 15:59:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des@FreeBSD.org) From: "Dag-Erling C. Sm\xf8rgrav" Received: (from des@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id PAA00142; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 15:59:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 15:59:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810132259.PAA00142@freefall.freebsd.org> To: amakawa@nebula.sf.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp, des@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/8310 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: possible typo in tickadj.8 State-Changed-From-To: open-closed State-Changed-By: des State-Changed-When: Tue Oct 13 15:58:42 PDT 1998 State-Changed-Why: Fixed in -current and -stable, thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Oct 13 16:00:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA14979 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 16:00:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA14902 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 16:00:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id QAA00179; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 16:00:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 16:00:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810132300.QAA00179@freefall.freebsd.org> To: doc@FreeBSD.ORG From: dag-erli@ifi.uio.no (Dag-Erling C. =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?= ) Subject: Re: docs/8310: [PATCH] possible typo in tickadj.8 Reply-To: dag-erli@ifi.uio.no (Dag-Erling C. =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?= ) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/8310; it has been noted by GNATS. From: dag-erli@ifi.uio.no (Dag-Erling C. =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?= ) To: amakawa@nebula.sf.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/8310: [PATCH] possible typo in tickadj.8 Date: 14 Oct 1998 00:50:21 +0200 amakawa@sf.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp writes: > I *think* the man page of `adjtime' is found only in section 2, You're absolutely correct, thanks. BTW, I think tickadj is now obsolete; at least, it is in 3.0, I'm not sure about 2.2. The clock code in the kernel has been fixed so it doesn't need tickadj anymore. DES -- Dag-Erling Sm鷨grav - dag-erli@ifi.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Oct 13 19:53:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA22118 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 19:53:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from surf.its.bond.edu.au (surf.its.bond.edu.au [131.245.7.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA22112 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 19:53:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsugden@surf.its.Bond.edu.au) Received: from raptor (pc-3-5d006-1.it.bond.edu.au [131.244.8.57]) by surf.its.bond.edu.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA09290 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 12:53:03 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <01fc01bdf71d$bd515c20$3908f483@raptor.it.bond.edu.au> From: "Benn Sugden" To: Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 12:52:23 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01F9_01BDF771.7CEF13D0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01F9_01BDF771.7CEF13D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I am running FreeBSD 2.2.7. How can I get a copy of the cgi that = publishes the man pages to web? cheers, Benn ------=_NextPart_000_01F9_01BDF771.7CEF13D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,
 
I am running FreeBSD 2.2.7. How can I get a copy of = the cgi=20 that publishes the man pages to web?
 
cheers,
Benn
------=_NextPart_000_01F9_01BDF771.7CEF13D0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Oct 14 12:47:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA15016 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 12:47:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from server1.rocksolid.net ([209.125.69.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA15006 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 12:47:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmertz@rocksolid.net) Received: from jmertz.rocksolid.net (pm4-204.sfo.infi.net [206.101.189.204]) by server1.rocksolid.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA00265 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 12:48:56 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19981014124117.007cfe20@rocksolid.net> X-Sender: jmertz@rocksolid.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 12:41:17 -0700 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG From: "SourceTel, Inc." Subject: Invalid URL Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I don't know if you know it or not - but the url shown in www.freebsd.org/tutorials/ppp/ppp22.htm (www.aladdin.co.uk) can not be found. Is this information available anywhere else? (I need all the help I can get setting up my FreeBSD system, which is connected to the Internetvia a T1 through @Work, for ppp dial-in access. I want to allow some people to use this machine instead of paying an ISP.) Thank you, John Mertz To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Oct 14 16:05:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA14286 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 16:05:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA14265 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 16:05:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA17444; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 23:16:22 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Message-ID: <19981014231622.42306@nothing-going-on.org> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 23:16:22 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Eivind Eklund , "Robert A. Bruce" , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Publishing the FreeBSD Handbook and FAQ References: <199810080459.VAA15607@pike.cdrom.com> <19981013133644.50562@follo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: <19981013133644.50562@follo.net>; from Eivind Eklund on Tue, Oct 13, 1998 at 01:36:44PM +0200 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Oct 13, 1998 at 01:36:44PM +0200, Eivind Eklund wrote: > On Wed, Oct 07, 1998 at 09:59:34PM -0700, Robert A. Bruce wrote: > > Howdy, > > We are planning to print books containing the FreeBSD Handbook and FAQ. > If you have some amount of manpower, it would be prudent to go through > the entire handbook and 'take notes' of what needs to be changed. > > Ideally, the entire handbook should have a careful editor go through > and fix it to > (1) Have the same style throughout (language choices) > (2) Have each section organized in a 'build-up' fashion, starting from > almost no assumptions about what the user knows (or references to > what should have been read before) and building up to the full > gory details. > (3) Be fully marked up in DocBook instead of LinuxDoc. > (4) Contain relevant illustrations. > > Nik Clayton has started doing point 3 - I don't know > when he'll be finished People occasionally ask me this, and then I shuffle my feet and look guilty. Suffice to say that John Fieber's original estimate of 3 hours is looking a little off :-) Still to do is - 2/3rds of the markup conversion for examples (I just committed the first lot) - The remaining markup changes - Syncronisation with the current version of the Handbook. - Splitting into individual files. The biggest problem at the moment is that in real life I have roughly two evenings a week I can give to FreeBSD. If (as happened tonight) the public transport screws up (for example) that time drops to 0, and I've lost a day. The first entry in that list (the markup conversion) is largely automatic, it just can't be easily automated. It needs someone to look at each example and make a judgement call about how it should be marked up. If anyone wants to lend a hand with this (it's boring, tedious, work, but if you're in the UK I'll buy you a beer or two, and if my contracting business takes off sufficiently that I can afford to do this elsewhere in the world I'll make a point of flying over and buying you a beer in two years time :-) ) get in touch to nik@freebsd.org, and I'll put together something explaining how this bit is done. The remaining markup changes should (in theory) go much faster. After talking with the Japanese translation team, I'm going to switch the way I'm doing the conversions -- instead of trying to fix every similar item of markup in one sweep, and then go through the Handbook again looking for different markup, fixing that, and going through the Handbook *again* looking for different markup, I'll make one more pass through it fixing up *everything* I can see. This'll probably result in two or three large commits (hmm, even the last one was ~ 1,500 lines in size) but then the vast majority of the thing will be done. > or if he would be willing to do some of the other tasks for money. Nik? I would be very willing to do the other tasks for money (if for no other reason than that I can then do them during the day, and not need to administer a Y2K lab full of Sun machines, which is what I'm doing at the moment). Unfortunately, the earliest I'm realistically available for this sort of work is 16th December, which is definitely outside their time window. N -- C.R.F. Consulting -- we're run to make me richer. . . To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Oct 14 16:06:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA14437 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 16:06:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA14383 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 16:05:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA18186; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 23:22:26 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Message-ID: <19981014232226.04297@nothing-going-on.org> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 23:22:26 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Eivind Eklund , "Robert A. Bruce" Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG, rab@pike.cdrom.com Subject: Re: Publishing the FreeBSD Handbook and FAQ References: <19981013133644.50562@follo.net> <199810131212.FAA13369@pike.cdrom.com> <19981013151548.43593@follo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: <19981013151548.43593@follo.net>; from Eivind Eklund on Tue, Oct 13, 1998 at 03:15:48PM +0200 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Oct 13, 1998 at 03:15:48PM +0200, Eivind Eklund wrote: > On Tue, Oct 13, 1998 at 05:12:35AM -0700, Robert A. Bruce wrote: > > Different parts to the book have different styles, some parts are > > "folksy" while others are more formal. But I don't agree that this > > is necessarily a "problem" that needs to be fixed. As long as the > > information is technically correct, I don't think it is a big deal > > if the style varies from chapter to chapter. > > It depends on whether we want it to feel as a coherent work or as a > set of random collected writings. It is not very important, but it > would add a much more professional feel to it. The other thing we could do is split it out in to individual articles or HOWTOs. There's not a *great* deal of cross reference between the sections of the Handbook, and some of them (like the Printing or Security sections) could stand on their own very easily. I haven't seen any indication from the Linux camp of whether or not the HOWTO approach has proved to be more useful than one large document. FWIW I've also got a very fledgling markup guide for the DocBook version of the Handbook, written as I select particular elements for particular usages. It's not ready for release yet though :-( > > >(4) Contain relevant illustrations. > > > > Do you have a list of where illustrations are needed? Is there > > a standard way of putting illustrations into an SGML document? > > No and yes, respectively. Nik has details on how to insert > illustrations in his head (and I have them stored away on my hard > drive, and can probably dig them up if need be). Searching the -doc mailing list archive for the phrase 'inlinegraphic' will probably throw up most of what I've written on the subject. > IMO: The handbook really need somebody to read it before publishing it > :-) After the past few months, I probably know it better than anyone else :-) N -- C.R.F. Consulting -- we're run to make me richer. . . To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Oct 14 18:30:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA06498 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 18:30:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA06488 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 18:30:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id SAA01099; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 18:30:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nebula.sf.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp (nebula.sf.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp [133.11.87.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAB05509 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 18:25:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from amakawa@nebula.sf.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp) Received: (from amakawa@localhost) by nebula.sf.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA06375; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 10:25:39 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from amakawa) Message-Id: <199810150125.KAA06375@nebula.sf.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp> Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 10:25:39 +0900 (JST) From: amakawa@sf.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp Reply-To: amakawa@sf.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/8320: [PATCH] formatting bug in rdist.1 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 8320 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [PATCH] formatting bug in rdist.1 >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Oct 14 18:30:00 PDT 1998 >Last-Modified: >Originator: Amakawa Shuhei >Organization: Univ. of Tokyo >Release: FreeBSD 2.2.7-RELEASE i386 >Environment: FreeBSD 2.2.7-RELEASE i386 >Description: The term `special' in the second paragraph of the BUGS section is a name of a command. It should be formatted with `.Ic'. >How-To-Repeat: man rdist >Fix: *** rdist.1.orig Thu Oct 15 10:14:26 1998 --- rdist.1 Thu Oct 15 10:15:11 1998 *************** *** 422,429 **** .Nm is executed. .Pp ! There is no easy way to have a special command executed after all files ! in a directory have been updated. .Pp Variable expansion only works for name lists; there should be a general macro facility. --- 422,430 ---- .Nm is executed. .Pp ! There is no easy way to have a ! .Ic special ! command executed after all files in a directory have been updated. .Pp Variable expansion only works for name lists; there should be a general macro facility. >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Oct 14 21:11:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA28262 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 21:11:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gamma.aei.ca (gamma.aei.ca [206.123.6.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA28257 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 21:11:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from malartre@aei.ca) Received: from aei.ca (aeiusrE-03.aei.ca [206.186.204.203]) by gamma.aei.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA17785 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 00:11:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <362575C4.71F79DF8@aei.ca> Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 00:10:44 -0400 From: Malartre X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.7-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: FreeBSD User Guide Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The FreeBSD User Guide http://www.aei.ca/~malartre/freebsd/index.html Ok, I have followed the "just do it" way Jordan K. Hubbard want! After 15 day or hard work :-), I have got something acceptable. Just finished the "vi" part of that tutorial for new user. I was thinking than man page where dull, long and boring. but I started reading them and then, I writed interesting part of them in my document. Has you will probably see, most of the command have part of the man page which are very usefull. Even the vi man page is readable for a new user if I delete some part. I think there are many advantage to that document: -short and (I try) concise. -Just what the user want to know. No history, no background, no long explanation. -In the FAQ way: one question one answer. -screenshot. -screenshot viewable in lynx. -highly hierarchised Disadvantage: -The user don't see all a program/command's options-possibilities. -The user lack of background, history etc.. -my english really sucks ;-)  I would like to have comment on that tutorial before I finish it (I already done 3/4 of the work), to know if someone is interested in the concept, and what modification should I do. Tank You! -- [Malartre][malartre@aei.ca][http://www.aei.ca/~malartre/] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Oct 14 22:05:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA03594 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 22:05:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA03583; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 22:05:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkoshy@FreeBSD.org) From: Joseph Koshy Received: (from jkoshy@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id WAA07413; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 22:05:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 22:05:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810150505.WAA07413@freefall.freebsd.org> To: amakawa@sf.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp, jkoshy@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/8320 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: [PATCH] formatting bug in rdist.1 State-Changed-From-To: open-closed State-Changed-By: jkoshy State-Changed-When: Wed Oct 14 22:04:36 PDT 1998 State-Changed-Why: Fixed in rev 1.10 of "src/usr.bin/rdist/rdist.1", thanks! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Oct 14 22:22:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA05165 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 22:22:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bbs.ee.ntu.edu.tw (bbs.ee.ntu.edu.tw [140.112.18.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA04700 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 22:19:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from woju@bbs.ee.ntu.edu.tw) From: woju@bbs.ee.ntu.edu.tw Received: (qmail 4414 invoked by uid 9999); 15 Oct 1998 05:21:29 -0000 Date: 15 Oct 1998 05:21:29 -0000 Message-ID: <19981015052129.4410.qmail@bbs.ee.ntu.edu.tw> Reply-To: woju@bbs.ee.ntu.edu.tw To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: FreeBSD Chinese BIG5 Document/FAQ at Taiwan X-Disclaimer: 臺大電機 Maxwell 站對本信內容恕不負責。 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Here are some FreeBSD Chinese BIG5 resources -- http://bsd.wj.ml.org About/Quick-start/Howto/FAQs/... news://freebsd.ntu.edu.tw/tw.bbs.comp.386bsd News group about *BSD at Taiwan ftp://freebsd.ntu.edu.tw/freebsd/cdrom/cd227.txt Ready-to-use FreeBSD 2.2.7R *server* cdrom image. It's *very easy*(almost plug&play) to build internet servers featuring -- * Secure remote access (snp-0.91) * BIG5-encoded BBS (fromzero-3.0) * HIGH-performance mail server (qmail-1.03 enhanced with anti-spam and log) * HIGH-flexible ftp server (wu-ftpd enhanced with access control and log) * proxy server (squid) * Secure web server (apache-1.3-SSL) * Domain name server (BIG5 encoded quick-start guide) * News server (inn-1.7.2.insync-1.1d enhanced with anti-spam filter) * More... (fixit-mode avaliable on the same bootable cdrom -- ./fixit.sh ) - woju To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Oct 14 23:46:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA12736 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 23:46:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from krasnavi.scn.ru (krasnavi.scn.ru [195.151.16.109]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA12731 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 23:45:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@krasnavi.scn.ru) Received: (from root@localhost) by krasnavi.scn.ru (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA00352 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 14:27:34 GMT (envelope-from root) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 14:27:34 GMT From: Charlie Root Message-Id: <199810151427.OAA00352@krasnavi.scn.ru> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org help To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Oct 15 02:00:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA25501 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 02:00:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA25464 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 02:00:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id CAA15449; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 02:00:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vedanix.welearn.com.au (vedanix.welearn.com.au [203.35.200.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA25106 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 01:52:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sue@vedanix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from sue@localhost) by vedanix.welearn.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA28092; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 18:57:56 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from sue) Message-Id: <199810150857.SAA28092@vedanix.welearn.com.au> Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 18:57:56 +1000 (EST) From: Sue Blake Reply-To: sue@vedanix.welearn.com.au To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/8326: Tell CD users where to find latest errata Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 8326 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Tell CD users where to find latest errata >Confidential: no >Severity: serious >Priority: high >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: sw-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Oct 15 02:00:00 PDT 1998 >Last-Modified: >Originator: Sue Blake >Organization: >Release: FreeBSD 3.0-STABLE i386 >Environment: New 3.0-RELEASE (Is that what I put here? :-) >Description: File does not reveal where to go for latest errata. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: *** ERRATA.TXT.old Thu Jul 16 20:09:53 1998 --- ERRATA.TXT Thu Oct 15 18:52:12 1998 *************** *** 2,9 **** be considered the definitive place to look *first* before reporting a problem with this release. This file will also be periodically updated as new issues are reported so even if you've checked this ! file recently, check it again before filing a bug report. Any ! changes to this file are also automatically emailed to: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org --- 2,13 ---- be considered the definitive place to look *first* before reporting a problem with this release. This file will also be periodically updated as new issues are reported so even if you've checked this ! file recently, check it again before filing a bug report. ! The latest revision of this file can be viewed at: ! ! http://www.freebsd.org/releases/3.0/errata.html ! ! Any changes to this file are also automatically emailed to: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Oct 15 02:10:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA26282 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 02:10:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA26269 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 02:10:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id CAA15785; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 02:10:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vedanix.welearn.com.au (vedanix.welearn.com.au [203.35.200.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA26213 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 02:09:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sue@vedanix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from sue@localhost) by vedanix.welearn.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA28298; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 19:14:53 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from sue) Message-Id: <199810150914.TAA28298@vedanix.welearn.com.au> Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 19:14:53 +1000 (EST) From: Sue Blake Reply-To: sue@vedanix.welearn.com.au To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/8327: 3.0 ABOUT.TXT netscape install insructions fail Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 8327 >Category: docs >Synopsis: 3.0 ABOUT.TXT netscape install insructions fail >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: sw-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Oct 15 02:10:00 PDT 1998 >Last-Modified: >Originator: Sue Blake >Organization: >Release: FreeBSD 2.2.6-STABLE i386 >Environment: This is for the version 3 that's half out the door :-) >Description: Detailed instructions for installing netscape won't work. Ancient. Needs updated version number (directory name), or delete netscape part. Unable to assess advice to use BSDI version. (And do the unpacked ports still only take "15MB"?) >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Quick edit. Sorry, no info for diff. Relevant bits of ABOUT.TXT: o WWW Resources: Our WEB site, http://www.freebsd.org, is also a very good source for updated information and provides a number of advanced documentation searching facilities. If you wish to use Netscape as your browser, you may install the BSDI version from ftp://ftp.mcom.com or simply type: # cd /usr/ports/www/netscape3 # make all install If you have the Ports collection installed on your machine. The ports collection may be installed like any other distribution and requires about 15MB unpacked. More information on the ports collection may be obtained from http://www.freebsd.org/ports or locally from file:/usr/share/doc/handbook if you've installed the doc distribution. Last of all, the tools directory contains various DOS tools for discovering disk geometries, installing boot managers and the like. It is purely optional and provided only for user convenience. > >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Oct 15 02:30:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA27457 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 02:30:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA27443 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 02:30:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id CAA16657; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 02:30:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vedanix.welearn.com.au (vedanix.welearn.com.au [203.35.200.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA26819 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 02:20:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sue@vedanix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from sue@localhost) by vedanix.welearn.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA28506; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 19:25:47 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from sue) Message-Id: <199810150925.TAA28506@vedanix.welearn.com.au> Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 19:25:47 +1000 (EST) From: Sue Blake Reply-To: sue@vedanix.welearn.com.au To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/8328: LAYOUT.TXT calls itself DISTRIB.TXT Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 8328 >Category: docs >Synopsis: LAYOUT.TXT calls itself DISTRIB.TXT >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Oct 15 02:30:01 PDT 1998 >Last-Modified: >Originator: Sue Blake >Organization: >Release: FreeBSD 2.2.6-STABLE i386 >Environment: I'll keep diffing while working out whether to call this 3.0-RELEASE or ?-CURRENT >Description: Content doesn't agree with filename. See diff. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: *** LAYOUT.TXT.old Tue Mar 24 20:51:41 1998 --- LAYOUT.TXT Thu Oct 15 19:19:11 1998 *************** *** 22,28 **** thorough description of each item in more detail: 1. The *.TXT files obviously contain documentation (this file is ! DISTRIB.TXT) and should be read before starting an installation. 2. The XF86332 directory contains the XFree86 project's 3.3.2 release and consists of a series of gzip'd tar files which contain each component --- 22,28 ---- thorough description of each item in more detail: 1. The *.TXT files obviously contain documentation (this file is ! LAYOUT.TXT) and should be read before starting an installation. 2. The XF86332 directory contains the XFree86 project's 3.3.2 release and consists of a series of gzip'd tar files which contain each component >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Oct 15 02:30:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA27458 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 02:30:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA27446 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 02:30:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id CAA16662; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 02:30:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 02:30:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810150930.CAA16662@freefall.freebsd.org> To: doc@FreeBSD.ORG From: Sue Blake Subject: Re: docs/8327: 3.0 ABOUT.TXT netscape install insructions fail Reply-To: Sue Blake Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/8327; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Sue Blake To: sue@vedanix.welearn.com.au Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/8327: 3.0 ABOUT.TXT netscape install insructions fail Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 19:26:42 +1000 On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 at 07:14:53PM +1000, Sue Blake wrote: > > (And do the unpacked ports still only take "15MB"?) LAYOUT.TXT says it is 26MB. -- Regards, -*Sue*- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Oct 15 02:40:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA27978 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 02:40:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA27971 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 02:40:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id CAA17088; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 02:40:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vedanix.welearn.com.au (vedanix.welearn.com.au [203.35.200.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA27870 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 02:38:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sue@vedanix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from sue@localhost) by vedanix.welearn.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA28663; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 19:44:03 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from sue) Message-Id: <199810150944.TAA28663@vedanix.welearn.com.au> Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 19:44:03 +1000 (EST) From: Sue Blake Reply-To: sue@vedanix.welearn.com.au To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/8329: readme.hlp needs revision for 3.0-RELEASE Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 8329 >Category: docs >Synopsis: readme.hlp needs revision for 3.0-RELEASE >Confidential: no >Severity: critical >Priority: high >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Oct 15 02:40:00 PDT 1998 >Last-Modified: >Originator: Sue Blake >Organization: >Release: FreeBSD 2.2.6-STABLE i386 >Environment: help! :-) >Description: readme.hlp refers to several version numbers in various contexts. It needs lots of numbers changing, and the heading too, before going out with 3.0. I'm not up to it, but this diff's a start. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: *** readme.hlp Thu Oct 15 19:38:26 1998 --- readme.hlp.old Mon May 25 08:13:44 1998 *************** *** 68,78 **** o Information regarding problems which arise after the CD is printed can be found at: ! ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/3.0-RELEASE/ERRATA.TXT For the most up-to-date software along the RELENG_2_2 branch (also known as -Stable) which is now proceeding onwards toward ! the release of FreeBSD 2.2.8, please install from: ftp://releng22.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ --- 68,78 ---- o Information regarding problems which arise after the CD is printed can be found at: ! ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/2.2.6-RELEASE/ERRATA.TXT For the most up-to-date software along the RELENG_2_2 branch (also known as -Stable) which is now proceeding onwards toward ! the release of FreeBSD 2.2.7, please install from: ftp://releng22.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Oct 15 02:57:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA29371 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 02:57:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from vedanix.welearn.com.au (vedanix.welearn.com.au [203.35.200.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA29366 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 02:57:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sue@vedanix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from sue@localhost) by vedanix.welearn.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA28697; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 20:02:30 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from sue) Message-ID: <19981015200230.37822@welearn.com.au> Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 20:02:30 +1000 From: Sue Blake To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: just checking Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I normally use 1:sd(0,a)kernel. This couldn't be a typo. It must have changed from sd to da for 3.0, no?? from the new trouble.hlp: The second situation involves booting from a SCSI disk when you have one or more IDE disks in the system. In this case, the FreeBSD disk number is lower than the BIOS disk number. If you have two IDE disks as well as the SCSI disk, the SCSI disk is BIOS disk 2, type 'da' and FreeBSD disk number 0, so you would say: 2:da(0,a)kernel To tell FreeBSD that you want to boot from BIOS disk 2, which is the first SCSI disk in the system. If you only had one IDE disk, you would use '1:' instead. -- Regards, -*Sue*- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Oct 15 03:10:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA00404 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 03:10:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA00395; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 03:10:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@FreeBSD.org) From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Received: (from jkh@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id DAA18239; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 03:10:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 03:10:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810151010.DAA18239@freefall.freebsd.org> To: sue@vedanix.welearn.com.au, jkh@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/8326 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Tell CD users where to find latest errata State-Changed-From-To: open-closed State-Changed-By: jkh State-Changed-When: Thu Oct 15 03:09:52 PDT 1998 State-Changed-Why: Done, thanks (btw, the change messages will almost certainly go to -current rather than -stable for the next couple of months, until 3.0-current becomes actually -stable. :) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Oct 15 03:12:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA00540 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 03:12:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA00533; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 03:12:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@FreeBSD.org) From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Received: (from jkh@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id DAA18539; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 03:12:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 03:12:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810151012.DAA18539@freefall.freebsd.org> To: sue@vedanix.welearn.com.au, jkh@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/8327 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: 3.0 ABOUT.TXT netscape install insructions fail State-Changed-From-To: open-closed State-Changed-By: jkh State-Changed-When: Thu Oct 15 03:12:14 PDT 1998 State-Changed-Why: Updated, thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Oct 15 03:15:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA00886 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 03:15:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA00848; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 03:15:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@FreeBSD.org) From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Received: (from jkh@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id DAA18756; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 03:15:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 03:15:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810151015.DAA18756@freefall.freebsd.org> To: sue@vedanix.welearn.com.au, jkh@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/8328 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: LAYOUT.TXT calls itself DISTRIB.TXT State-Changed-From-To: open-closed State-Changed-By: jkh State-Changed-When: Thu Oct 15 03:15:07 PDT 1998 State-Changed-Why: Fixed, thanks! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Oct 15 03:17:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA01125 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 03:17:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA01088; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 03:16:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@FreeBSD.org) From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Received: (from jkh@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id DAA18879; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 03:16:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 03:16:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810151016.DAA18879@freefall.freebsd.org> To: sue@vedanix.welearn.com.au, jkh@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/8329 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: readme.hlp needs revision for 3.0-RELEASE State-Changed-From-To: open-closed State-Changed-By: jkh State-Changed-When: Thu Oct 15 03:16:40 PDT 1998 State-Changed-Why: Fixed, thanks! [I've been looking at these files for so long, I've got selective blindness it seems :)] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Oct 15 03:20:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA01561 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 03:20:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA01529 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 03:20:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id DAA18971; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 03:20:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vedanix.welearn.com.au (vedanix.welearn.com.au [203.35.200.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA01280 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 03:18:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sue@vedanix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from sue@localhost) by vedanix.welearn.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA28848; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 20:23:36 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from sue) Message-Id: <199810151023.UAA28848@vedanix.welearn.com.au> Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 20:23:36 +1000 (EST) From: Sue Blake Reply-To: sue@vedanix.welearn.com.au To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/8331: upgrade.hlp describes fstab changes in old context Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 8331 >Category: docs >Synopsis: upgrade.hlp describes fstab changes in old context >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Oct 15 03:20:01 PDT 1998 >Last-Modified: >Originator: Sue Blake >Organization: >Release: FreeBSD 2.2.6-STABLE i386 >Environment: >Description: upgrade.hlp description of 2.2.6 /etc/fstab change needs bringing into current context for clarity. >How-To-Repeat: One approach attached as diff below. >Fix: *** upgrade.hlp.old Mon May 25 08:13:51 1998 --- upgrade.hlp Thu Oct 15 20:14:51 1998 *************** *** 29,35 **** 0.2 IMPORTANT NOTE --- -------------- ! See section 2.4 for important details regarding changes to the /etc/fstab file required during the upgrade procedure. 1.0 Introduction --- 29,36 ---- 0.2 IMPORTANT NOTE --- -------------- ! If you are upgrading from FreeBSD 2.2.5 or earlier, see ! section 2.4 for important details regarding changes to the /etc/fstab file required during the upgrade procedure. 1.0 Introduction *************** *** 122,131 **** IMPORTANT NOTE: ============== ! FreeBSD 2.2.6 introduces a change in the naming of the device from which the root filesystem is mounted. This change affects all systems, however user intervention is only required for systems undergoing an ! upgrade installation. Previously, the root filesystem was always mounted from the compatibility slice, while other partitions on the same disk were --- 123,132 ---- IMPORTANT NOTE: ============== ! FreeBSD 2.2.6 introduced a change in the naming of the device from which the root filesystem is mounted. This change affects all systems, however user intervention is only required for systems undergoing an ! upgrade installation from a version prior to FreeBSD 2.2.6. Previously, the root filesystem was always mounted from the compatibility slice, while other partitions on the same disk were >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Oct 15 04:02:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA05116 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 04:02:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA04978; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 04:01:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@FreeBSD.org) From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Received: (from jkh@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id EAA21387; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 04:01:42 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 04:01:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810151101.EAA21387@freefall.freebsd.org> To: sue@vedanix.welearn.com.au, jkh@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/8331 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: upgrade.hlp describes fstab changes in old context State-Changed-From-To: open-closed State-Changed-By: jkh State-Changed-When: Thu Oct 15 04:01:36 PDT 1998 State-Changed-Why: applied, thanks! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Oct 15 04:10:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA07291 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 04:10:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA07244 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 04:10:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id EAA21686; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 04:10:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vedanix.welearn.com.au (vedanix.welearn.com.au [203.35.200.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA04923 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 04:01:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sue@vedanix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from sue@localhost) by vedanix.welearn.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA29080; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 21:06:27 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from sue) Message-Id: <199810151106.VAA29080@vedanix.welearn.com.au> Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 21:06:27 +1000 (EST) From: Sue Blake Reply-To: sue@vedanix.welearn.com.au To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/8333: install.hlp and FAQ about DOS primary partition Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 8333 >Category: docs >Synopsis: install.hlp and FAQ about DOS primary partition >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Oct 15 04:10:00 PDT 1998 >Last-Modified: >Originator: Sue Blake >Organization: >Release: FreeBSD 2.2.6-STABLE i386 >Environment: >Description: In install.hlp, and under MS DOS users questions in the FAQ, it says: It is probably better to create another uncompressed MS-DOS primary partition and use this for communications between MS-DOS and FreeBSD. It should say extended partition, not primary. Justification: If there are two or more primary DOS partitions, DOS can only see the one that it booted off. There is no way to access any other primary DOS partition from DOS, so it couldn't be used for communication as suggested above. DOS will never be aware of more than one primary, and DOS will always call that Drive C no matter where it is. It is possible to create another extended partition (containing one or more logical drives) on another physical disk. For example, create a small extended DOS partition (not primary) on the second disk, install FreeBSD on the remainder, and both operating systems can see and use that extended partition for sharing data. >How-To-Repeat: Reclaim brain-space formerly allocated to microsoft workarounds. Then try to remember. >Fix: Change "primary" to "extended" in that sentence in both docs. >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Oct 15 04:20:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA08515 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 04:20:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA08505 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 04:20:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id EAA22031; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 04:20:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vedanix.welearn.com.au (vedanix.welearn.com.au [203.35.200.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA08420 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 04:19:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sue@vedanix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from sue@localhost) by vedanix.welearn.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA29214; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 21:24:34 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from sue) Message-Id: <199810151124.VAA29214@vedanix.welearn.com.au> Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 21:24:34 +1000 (EST) From: Sue Blake Reply-To: sue@vedanix.welearn.com.au To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/8334: install.hlp fixes Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 8334 >Category: docs >Synopsis: install.hlp fixes >Confidential: no >Severity: serious >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Oct 15 04:20:00 PDT 1998 >Last-Modified: >Originator: Sue Blake >Organization: >Release: FreeBSD 2.2.6-STABLE i386 >Environment: >Description: Three changes outlined below: [1] Install from DOS (diff below) [2] Consider addition to mounting instructions [3] Change tense and/or version number? [1] diff below clarifies that Drive C must be used for DOS partition install. I believe this was the case with 2.2.5, and haven't heard of it changing. See docs/8333 for explanation of DOS primary partition issues and letter-naming. I also made the DOS prompt look like a default DOS prompt. [2] Consider adding MAKEDEV instructions under this para. Would save some -questions. Sorry, I don't trust myself to type it in right :-) 2.3 Can I mount my DOS extended partitions? --- --------------------------------------- Yes. DOS extended partitions are mapped in at the end of the other `slices'' in FreeBSD, e.g. your D: drive might be /dev/sd0s5, your E: drive /dev/sd0s6, and so on. This example assumes, of course, that your extended partition is on SCSI drive 0. For IDE drives, substitute `wd'' for `sd'' appropriately. You otherwise mount extended partitions exactly like you would mount any other DOS drive, e.g.: mount -t msdos /dev/sd0s5 /dos_d [3] Bring this para up to date: 2.4 Can I run DOS binaries under FreeBSD? --- ------------------------------------- Not yet! We'd like to add support for this someday, but are still lacking anyone to actually do the work. Ongoing work with BSDI's doscmd utility is bringing this much closer to being a reality in FreeBSD-current (AKA 3.0) and you should send mail to freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org if you're interested in joining this effort! >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Apply this patch and see above. *** install.hlp.old Mon May 25 08:13:43 1998 --- install.hlp Thu Oct 15 21:07:59 1998 *************** *** 232,246 **** To prepare for installation from an MS-DOS partition you should simply copy the files from the distribution into a directory called ! "FREEBSD". For example, to do a minimal installation of FreeBSD from ! DOS using files copied from the CDROM, you might do something like ! this: ! C> MD C:\FREEBSD ! C> XCOPY /S E:\BIN C:\FREEBSD\BIN ! Assuming that `C:' was where you had free space and `E:' was where ! your CD was mounted. For as many `DISTS' as you wish to install from DOS (and you have free space for), install each one in a directory under `C:\FREEBSD' - the --- 232,245 ---- To prepare for installation from an MS-DOS partition you should simply copy the files from the distribution into a directory called ! "FREEBSD" on the Primary DOS partition ("Drive C:"). For example, to do ! a minimal installation of FreeBSD from DOS using files copied from the ! CDROM, you might do something like this: ! C:\> MD C:\FREEBSD ! C:\> XCOPY /S E:\BIN C:\FREEBSD\BIN ! Assuming that `E:' was where your CD was mounted. For as many `DISTS' as you wish to install from DOS (and you have free space for), install each one in a directory under `C:\FREEBSD' - the >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Oct 15 04:22:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA08807 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 04:22:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA08777; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 04:22:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@FreeBSD.org) From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Received: (from jkh@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id EAA22157; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 04:22:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 04:22:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810151122.EAA22157@freefall.freebsd.org> To: sue@vedanix.welearn.com.au, jkh@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/8333 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: install.hlp and FAQ about DOS primary partition State-Changed-From-To: open-closed State-Changed-By: jkh State-Changed-When: Thu Oct 15 04:22:36 PDT 1998 State-Changed-Why: Hmmm, OK, I think I've got the wording right now. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Oct 15 04:28:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA09347 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 04:28:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA09282; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 04:27:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@FreeBSD.org) From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Received: (from jkh@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id EAA22441; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 04:27:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 04:27:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810151127.EAA22441@freefall.freebsd.org> To: sue@vedanix.welearn.com.au, jkh@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/8334 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: install.hlp fixes State-Changed-From-To: open-closed State-Changed-By: jkh State-Changed-When: Thu Oct 15 04:27:51 PDT 1998 State-Changed-Why: Applied, thanks! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Oct 15 08:06:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA05247 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 08:06:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (mail.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA05241; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 08:06:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wosch@cs.tu-berlin.de) Received: from caramba.cs.tu-berlin.de (wosch@caramba.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.12]) by mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA18644; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 16:59:52 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from wosch@localhost) by caramba.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.9.1/8.9.0) id QAA26147; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 16:59:50 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19981015165950.A25956@caramba.cs.tu-berlin.de> Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 16:59:50 +0200 From: Wolfram Schneider To: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Splitting http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/software.html Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org software.html is a large file. IMHO we should split the large list into smaller pieces or create a meta index to the entries. Entries | Category 5 Database 8 ISP 10 Web/FTP/Mail Server 5 Security 6 Computer Languages and Scientific Tools 3 System Administration 3 Multimedia 4 Misc ------- 44 -- Wolfram Schneider http://freebsd.org/~w/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Oct 15 08:22:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA06916 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 08:22:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sun11-6124jo.pams.ncsu.edu (sun11-6124jo.pams.ncsu.edu [152.1.159.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA06891 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 08:21:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nsj@pams.ncsu.edu) Received: (from nsj@localhost) by sun11-6124jo.pams.ncsu.edu (8.8.4/UC02Jan97) id LAA18908; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 11:18:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199810151518.LAA18908@sun11-6124jo.pams.ncsu.edu> Subject: Re: Splitting http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/software.html To: wosch@cs.tu-berlin.de (Wolfram Schneider) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 11:18:08 -0400 (EDT) Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19981015165950.A25956@caramba.cs.tu-berlin.de> from "Wolfram Schneider" at Oct 15, 98 04:59:50 pm Reply-To: nsj@ncsu.edu From: nsj@ncsu.edu (Nate Johnson) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24/POP] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org %software.html is a large file. IMHO we should split %the large list into smaller pieces or create a meta %index to the entries. % %Entries | Category %5 Database %8 ISP %10 Web/FTP/Mail Server %5 Security %6 Computer Languages and Scientific Tools %3 System Administration %3 Multimedia %4 Misc %------- %44 No argument here. I'm thinking of two possibilities: 1) List the sub-categories of software directly on commercial.sgml, and have them link to files in a commercial/software subdir. - or - 2) List the sub-categories of software on software.sgml, and have them link to files in a commercial/software subdir. Which sounds better? Cheers, nsj To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Oct 15 11:20:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA04306 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 11:20:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA04299 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 11:20:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id LAA13861; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 11:20:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ryan.org (kenny.inetu.net [206.245.142.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA04102 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 11:18:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ryan@ryan.org) Received: (from ryan@localhost) by ryan.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA17634; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 14:16:39 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from ryan) Message-Id: <199810151816.OAA17634@ryan.org> Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 14:16:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Ryan Reply-To: ryan@ryan.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/8337: documentation relic Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 8337 >Category: docs >Synopsis: documentation relic >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Oct 15 11:20:01 PDT 1998 >Last-Modified: >Originator: Ryan >Organization: >Release: FreeBSD 2.2.7-STABLE i386 >Environment: >Description: rename(2) mentioned as a CAVEAT: The system can deadlock if a loop in the file system graph is present. This loop takes the form of an entry in directory `a', say `a/foo', being a hard link to directory `b', and an entry in directory `b', say `b/bar', being a hard link to directory `a'. When such a loop exists and two sepa- rate processes attempt to perform `rename a/foo b/bar' and `rename b/bar a/foo', respectively, the system may deadlock attempting to lock both di- rectories for modification. Hard links to directories should be replaced by symbolic links by the system administrator. if I remember correctly, directory hard links were outlawed long ago. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Oct 15 12:18:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA13145 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 12:18:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pluto.plutotech.com (mail.plutotech.com [206.168.67.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA13109 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 12:18:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kelly@plutotech.com) Received: from plutotech.com (tampopo.plutotech.com [206.168.67.161]) by pluto.plutotech.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA14659 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 13:18:02 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <36264A68.4839711D@plutotech.com> Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 13:18:01 -0600 From: Sean Kelly Organization: Pluto Technologies X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Review and commit request Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------2D9E99B1B1C1D05FAEB2907D" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------2D9E99B1B1C1D05FAEB2907D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Doc'ers: Here are some diffs to the printing chapter based on suggestions gathered up over the months. The diffs to /doc/handbook/printing.sgml contains changes to the form-feed eject sequence for PCL-based printers, plus also a better filter script for Ghostscript scan conversion for non-PostScript printers. It also updates the acknowledgements to credit those who've suggested the changes. The diffs to /doc/handbook/authors.sgml just changes my email address from "kelly@fsl.noaa.gov" to "kelly@plutotech.com". Please review the changes and, if you approve, commit to the sources. Thanks. --Sean --------------2D9E99B1B1C1D05FAEB2907D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="diffs.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="diffs.txt" --- printing.sgml.orig Thu Oct 15 11:21:44 1998 +++ printing.sgml Thu Oct 15 11:23:05 1998 @@ -5,8 +5,6 @@ The FreeBSD Documentation Project - -
Printing with FreeBSD <author> Sean Kelly <tt/kelly@fsl.noaa.gov/ @@ -1228,10 +1226,9 @@ # Installed in /usr/local/libexec/hpif # # Simply copies stdin to stdout. Ignores all filter arguments. -# Tells printer to treat LF as CR+LF. Writes a form feed character -# after printing job. +# Tells printer to treat LF as CR+LF. Ejects the page when done. -printf "\033&k2G" && cat && printf "\f" && exit 0 +printf "\033&k2G" && cat && printf "\033&l0H" && exit 0 exit 2 </code> @@ -2317,17 +2314,26 @@ if [ "$first_two_chars" = "%!" ]; then # - # It is PostScript; use Ghostscript to scan-convert and print it + # It is PostScript; use Ghostscript to scan-convert and print it. + # + # Note that PostScript files are actually interpreted programs, + # and those programs are allowed to write to stdout, which will + # mess up the printed output. So, we redirect stdout to stderr + # and then make descriptor 3 go to stdout, and have Ghostscript + # write its output there. Exercise for the clever reader: + # capture the stderr output from Ghostscript and mail it back to + # the user originating the print job. # - /usr/local/bin/gs -dSAFER -dNOPAUSE -q -sDEVICE=djet500 -sOutputFile=- - \ - && exit 0 + exec 3>&1 1>&2 + /usr/local/bin/gs -dSAFER -dNOPAUSE -q -sDEVICE=djet500 \ + -sOutputFile=/dev/fd/3 - && exit 0 else # # Plain text or HP/PCL, so just print it directly; print a form # at the end to eject the last page. # - echo $first_line && cat && printf "\f" && exit 0 + echo $first_line && cat && printf "\033&l0H" && exit 0 fi exit 2 @@ -2340,7 +2346,6 @@ That is it. You can type <tt/lpr plain.text/ and <tt/lpr whatever.ps/ and both should print successfully. - <sect2><heading>Conversion Filters<label id="printing:advanced:convfilters"></heading> @@ -2559,7 +2564,7 @@ # Installed in /usr/local/libexec/hprf # -printf "\033&k2G" && fpr && printf "\f" && exit 0 +printf "\033&k2G" && fpr && printf "\033&l0H" && exit 0 exit 2 </code> And we will add this line to the <tt>/etc/printcap</tt> @@ -4051,6 +4056,19 @@ <tag/&a.jehamby;/ For the Ghostscript-to-HP filter. + + <tag/&a.jfieber;/ + + For debugging why printing from Windows 95 to a FreeBSD + system simulating a PostScript printer with Ghostscript + didn't produce correct output, and suggesting a fix, which + is included herein. + + <tag/Stephen Montgomery-Smith <tt/<stephen@math.missouri.edu>// + + For suggesting using "\033&l0H" instead of "\f" to + eject the last page on HP printers; the latter could eject + an extra blank page while the former never does. <tag/My wife, Mary Kelly <tt/<urquhart@argyre.colorado.edu>// --- authors.sgml.orig Thu Oct 15 11:21:53 1998 +++ authors.sgml Thu Oct 15 11:21:56 1998 @@ -335,8 +335,8 @@ name='<kato@FreeBSD.ORG>'></tt>"> <!ENTITY a.kelly "Sean Kelly - <tt><htmlurl url='mailto:kelly@fsl.noaa.gov' - name='<kelly@fsl.noaa.gov>'></tt>"> + <tt><htmlurl url='mailto:kelly@plutotech.com' + name='<kelly@plutotech.com>'></tt>"> <!ENTITY a.ken "Kenneth D. Merry <tt><htmlurl url='mailto:ken@FreeBSD.ORG' --------------2D9E99B1B1C1D05FAEB2907D-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Oct 15 12:32:28 1998 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG> Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA15237 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 12:32:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from robin.collectors.com ([208.222.111.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA15118 for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 12:32:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from webmaster@collectors.com) Received: from mail.collectors.com ([208.222.111.97]) by robin.collectors.com (Post.Office MTA v3.0 release 0122 ID# 0-36396U100L100S0) with SMTP id AAA49 for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 12:39:03 -0700 Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 12:34:36 -0700 From: webmaster@collectors.com (Collectors Universe) X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.036) S/N 0 Reply-To: Collectors Universe <webmaster@collectors.com> Organization: Collectors Universe Message-ID: <2524.981015@collectors.com> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Website - Ports Collection Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Freebsd-doc, You should make sure that you have your references straight when referring to the two different types of database modules. You have MySQL database modules with a discription of mSQL or miniSQL which is clearly different. http://www3.ru.freebsd.org/ports/perl5.html under p5-Mysql-modules-1.2003 This occurs in more than one place not just the perl ports. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Ken Richards ken@collectors.com CIO & Software Engineer 6440 Lusk Boulevard #209D Collectors Universe San Diego, CA 92121 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Oct 15 14:14:03 1998 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG> Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA04876 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 14:14:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cepheus.azstarnet.com (cepheus.azstarnet.com [169.197.56.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA04845 for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 14:13:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rpratt@azstarnet.com) Received: from win95.rpratt.azstarnet.com (dialup17ip110.tus.azstarnet.com [169.197.38.110]) by cepheus.azstarnet.com (8.8.5-nerd/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA13246 for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 14:13:36 -0700 (MST) X-Sent-via: StarNet http://www.azstarnet.com/ Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981015141400.007c6100@pop.azstarnet.com> X-Sender: rpratt@pop.azstarnet.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 14:14:00 -0700 To: <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG> From: Randy Pratt <rpratt@azstarnet.com> Subject: Newbie Install document Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Greetings to all. I joined this list as a result of receiving comments about a newbie install of freebsd 2.2.5 that I wrote as a contribution to our local users group( http://www.treefort.org/~rpratt/bsdinstall/bsdnewbie.html ). A preview of the installation screens was something that I thought would have been useful before I first installed freebsd. It was a real morale boost for this newbie, to say the least. :-) Of course, when Jordan asked, I agreed to continue work and maintain the document. Its been moved to http://www.freebsd.org/~rpratt/bsdnewbie.html and I'm completely open to suggestions on ways to improve it and coordinate the style. Of course, a lot of credit has to go to Greg Lehey's book and the other documents at freebsd.org. I'm working on a 2.2.7 installation and have suscribed to future releases to keep the document current. I'll mention it here when I post that version. I'm pleased that there's something I can contribute and appreciate any thoughts you might have. Regards, Randy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Oct 15 19:05:43 1998 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG> Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA16594 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 19:05:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ocean.campus.luth.se (ocean.campus.luth.se [130.240.194.116]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA16575 for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 19:05:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from karpen@ocean.campus.luth.se) Received: (from karpen@localhost) by ocean.campus.luth.se (8.9.1/8.9.1) id EAA26210; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 04:02:29 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from karpen) From: Mikael Karpberg <karpen@ocean.campus.luth.se> Message-Id: <199810160202.EAA26210@ocean.campus.luth.se> Subject: Re: FreeBSD User Guide In-Reply-To: <362575C4.71F79DF8@aei.ca> from Malartre at "Oct 15, 98 00:10:44 am" To: malartre@aei.ca (Malartre) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 04:02:28 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org According to Malartre: > I would like to have comment on that tutorial before I finish it (I > already done 3/4 of the work), to know if someone is interested in the > concept, and what modification should I do. Just some quick notes from skimming through the pages: * It's hard to do... skimming, that is :-) Maybe try and place the prev, home, next buttons on the top of each pages so they will not move around as you move through pages? * Glad to see you try and teach the user to use the manpages. Maybe you should stress a little more that this is THE way to get around in UNIX. There's just no way you can learn all the switches to all commands, so you use the man pages quite frequently even as a more experienced user, and even if you used the command, and maybe even that switch before. /Mikael To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Oct 15 19:09:06 1998 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG> Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA17090 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 19:09:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from krasnavi.scn.ru (krasnavi.scn.ru [195.151.16.109]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA17080 for <freebsd-doc@freebsd.org>; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 19:09:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@krasnavi.scn.ru) Received: (from root@localhost) by krasnavi.scn.ru (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA07104 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 10:12:31 GMT (envelope-from root) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 10:12:31 GMT From: Charlie Root <root@krasnavi.scn.ru> Message-Id: <199810161012.KAA07104@krasnavi.scn.ru> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: How cam I be writing LKM ? Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi ! Answer please. Where can I get the documentation about writing LKM modules. Must I use standart libraris or kernel's internal calls ? I am beginner in writing to FreeBSD and Unix, but it is intresting for me to undestand this question. Thank you. Bye. Good luck. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Oct 15 19:45:32 1998 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG> Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA21850 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 19:45:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA21828; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 19:45:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id MAA08315; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 12:15:05 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) id MAA02867; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 12:14:59 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: <19981016121458.U468@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 12:14:58 +0930 From: Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com> To: Charlie Root <root@krasnavi.scn.ru>, FreeBSD Hackers <hackers@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: How cam I be writing LKM ? References: <199810161012.KAA07104@krasnavi.scn.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <199810161012.KAA07104@krasnavi.scn.ru>; from Charlie Root on Fri, Oct 16, 1998 at 10:12:31AM +0000 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [following up to -hackers] On Friday, 16 October 1998 at 10:12:31 +0000, Charlie Root wrote: Please don't send mail as root. We like to know who you are (and where you are; what part of Russia has a time zone offset of 0?). > > Answer please. Where can I get the documentation about writing LKM modules. This is an in-depth technical question, which belongs on -hackers, not -doc (which handles documenting the system). The simple answer is: there is no documentation except for a couple of man pages and the source code of other LKMs. That's how I started, and it wasn't too difficult. > Must I use standart libraris or kernel's internal calls ? It's a kernel module, so you need to use kernel calls. > I am beginner in writing to FreeBSD and Unix, but it is intresting for me > to undestand this question. Thank you. The best thing to understand is: now is a very bad time to write an LKM. They'll be going away and replaced by KLDs when the kernel goes to ELF (in the next few weeks). Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Oct 15 21:07:30 1998 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG> Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA03092 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 21:07:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gamma.aei.ca (gamma.aei.ca [206.123.6.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA03072 for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 21:07:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from malartre@aei.ca) Received: from aei.ca (aeiusrH-05.aei.ca [206.186.205.105]) by gamma.aei.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA29552; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 00:06:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3626C622.23A4E9B6@aei.ca> Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 00:05:55 -0400 From: Malartre <malartre@aei.ca> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.7-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mikael Karpberg <karpen@ocean.campus.luth.se> CC: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD User Guide References: <199810160202.EAA26210@ocean.campus.luth.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Mikael Karpberg wrote: > > According to Malartre: > > I would like to have comment on that tutorial before I finish it (I > > already done 3/4 of the work), to know if someone is interested in the > > concept, and what modification should I do. > > Just some quick notes from skimming through the pages: > * It's hard to do... skimming, that is :-) Maybe try and place the > prev, home, next buttons on the top of each pages so they will not > move around as you move through pages? > * Glad to see you try and teach the user to use the manpages. Maybe you > should stress a little more that this is THE way to get around in UNIX. > There's just no way you can learn all the switches to all commands, so > you use the man pages quite frequently even as a more experienced user, > and even if you used the command, and maybe even that switch before. > > /Mikael > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message Really good proposition! I was just not thinking to that. Yeah, I should mention more that "man" is -the- way to learn interesting things. I would like an automated way to transfer the previous/home/next link on the top. (any man page?) I have ---73--- *.html file to edit! So long and boring. I would also like to know the -exact- meaning of "ie." 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Satoshi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Oct 16 01:57:55 1998 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG> Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA01086 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 01:57:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from t-s.com ([207.159.130.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA01076 for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 01:57:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kostya@t-s.com) Received: from t-s.com ([195.96.181.20]) by t-s.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA19449 for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 12:57:21 +0400 (MSK/MSD) Message-ID: <362718AD.C104C198@t-s.com> Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 12:58:05 +0300 From: kostya <kostya@t-s.com> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: question is Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org How to build kernel to use two network cards ? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Oct 16 05:53:42 1998 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG> Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA22375 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 05:53:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rucus.ru.ac.za (rucus.ru.ac.za [146.231.29.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA22367 for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 05:53:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nbm@rucus.ru.ac.za) Received: (qmail 8448 invoked by uid 1003); 16 Oct 1998 12:53:02 -0000 Message-ID: <19981016145302.A7957@rucus.ru.ac.za> Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 14:53:02 +0200 From: Neil Blakey-Milner <nbm@rucus.ru.ac.za> To: Malartre <malartre@aei.ca> Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD User Guide References: <199810160202.EAA26210@ocean.campus.luth.se> <3626C622.23A4E9B6@aei.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <3626C622.23A4E9B6@aei.ca>; from Malartre on Fri, Oct 16, 1998 at 12:05:55AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri 1998-10-16 (00:05), Malartre wrote: > I would also like to know the -exact- meaning of "ie." > Something like "exemple"? "eg." is "example." "ie." is "in other words." Eg: To count all packets destined for port 25, type "ipfw add count tcp from any to any 25". ie, the firewall will add a rule to count all packets of type tcp going from any host, destined to any host on port 25. Hope that helps. Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner nbm@rucus.ru.ac.za To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Oct 16 14:13:53 1998 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG> Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA16990 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 14:13:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from shell.futuresouth.com (shell.futuresouth.com [198.78.58.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA16884 for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 14:13:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fullermd@futuresouth.com) Received: (from fullermd@localhost) by shell.futuresouth.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA17530; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 16:12:08 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <19981016161208.37302@futuresouth.com> Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 16:12:08 -0500 From: "Matthew D. Fuller" <fullermd@futuresouth.com> To: Neil Blakey-Milner <nbm@rucus.ru.ac.za> Cc: Malartre <malartre@aei.ca>, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD User Guide References: <199810160202.EAA26210@ocean.campus.luth.se> <3626C622.23A4E9B6@aei.ca> <19981016145302.A7957@rucus.ru.ac.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88 In-Reply-To: <19981016145302.A7957@rucus.ru.ac.za>; from Neil Blakey-Milner on Fri, Oct 16, 1998 at 02:53:02PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Oct 16, 1998 at 02:53:02PM +0200, Neil Blakey-Milner woke me up to tell me: > On Fri 1998-10-16 (00:05), Malartre wrote: > > I would also like to know the -exact- meaning of "ie." > > Something like "exemple"? > > "eg." is "example." > "ie." is "in other words." If memory serves (which it usually doesn't) i.e. is from the Latin 'id est', which means about the same as the French 'C'est', literally 'it is'. 'eg' I can't remember for the life of me. *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* | FreeBSD; the way computers were meant to be | * "The only reason I'm burning my candle at both ends, is * | that I haven't figured out how to light the middle yet."| * fullermd@futuresouth.com :-} MAtthew Fuller * | http://keystone.westminster.edu/~fullermd | *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Oct 16 16:10:47 1998 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG> Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA09949 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 16:10:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from send1b.yahoomail.com (send1b.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA09904 for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 16:10:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from benfla@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <19981016230938.12952.rocketmail@send1b.yahoomail.com> Received: from [199.44.16.37] by send1b; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 16:09:38 PDT Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 16:09:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Ben Heinzinger <benfla@yahoo.com> Subject: ?? Boot Disc??? To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Guys and Gals: I am either missing a step or you left out a step in creating a boot flopy from the "installation boot disc image" instructions on your web page accessed numerous times last time 10/15/98 at 7:45 pm eastern. I have downloaded both files, fdimage.exe and the boot{1}.flp several times. The fdimage asks for paramaters and then tells me files cannot be found. I have attempted to copy the boot file to a flopy and it says it will not fit on the disk. Leads me to think a linux format or something. I am using Win 95 the original- the service packk causes problems- and do not have a seperate real dos enviornment. This should not cause a problem - ??? I made a seperate directory for each file no difference. Is there a step inbetween mabye infered? I am not a programer nor a total dweeb on these things. I build and repair desktops and install software on a daily basis. What am I missing?? Thanks for listening. Return to benfla@yahoo.com I can retrieve this at school. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Oct 16 16:16:37 1998 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG> Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA10882 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 16:16:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA10391 for <doc@freebsd.org>; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 16:13:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA17623; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 00:10:22 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Message-ID: <19981017001021.52098@nothing-going-on.org> Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 00:10:21 +0100 From: Nik Clayton <nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk> To: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: DocBook conversion snapshot Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi folks, There's a snapshot of the DocBook version of the Handbook converted to HTML at <URL:http://www.freebsd.org/%7enik/handbook/index.html> and sub pages. Everything up to the beginning of Chapter 16 is pretty much how the Handbook will look when the conversion is finished (I still need to finish off sorting out the whitespace in chapters 16+, and the changes to chapters 1-15 won't (generally) affect the formatting). Things I know are wrong; 1. The entities for authors of sections aren't linked in, which is why most of the e-mail addresses aren't listed. 2. Most of the examples of file contents have an extra line of white space after them (at least when viewed in Netscape). I know to fix this, but I need to finish some other stuff first. 3. The front matter isn't present. Apart from that, this is pretty much what it'll look like. Comments welcome. <URL:http://www.freebsd.org/%7enik/handbook/handbook.html> is the whole Handbook as one large HTML file (~1.1MB in size), and <URLhttp://www.freebsd.org/%7enik/handbook/handbook.rtf> is the RTF version (~1.4MB in size). The formatting of the RTF version is probably a little different to the HTML one, and is almost certainly missing some images. I'd be interested to see what happened if someone took this and used it to make a PDF version. Note that checking out a copy of doc/en/handbook/ from the repository and typing 'make' will not yield you this output. I'm testing an unreleased version of the modular stylesheets, and the version currently in the ports tree won't work (I believe). N -- C.R.F. Consulting -- we're run to make me richer. . . To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Oct 16 16:22:20 1998 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG> Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA12009 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 16:22:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA11963 for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 16:22:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA16164; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 16:22:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) To: Ben Heinzinger <benfla@yahoo.com> cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ?? Boot Disc??? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 16 Oct 1998 16:09:38 PDT." <19981016230938.12952.rocketmail@send1b.yahoomail.com> Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 16:22:17 -0700 Message-ID: <16160.908580137@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@time.cdrom.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Guys and Gals: I am either missing a step or you left out a step in > creating a boot flopy from the "installation boot disc image" > instructions on your web page accessed numerous times last time see floppies/README.TXT Also, please send questions to questions@freebsd.org - doc is for submitting changes to the documentation (and I see no diffs attached to your message :). - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Oct 16 18:50:17 1998 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG> Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA08875 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 18:50:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA08782 for <doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 18:50:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id SAA25235; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 18:50:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from coyotesdaughter.com (navajo.coyotesdaughter.com [199.181.141.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA08616 for <FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org>; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 18:48:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from azrael@coyotesdaughter.com) Received: (from azrael@localhost) by coyotesdaughter.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA10164; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 21:48:26 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from azrael) Message-Id: <199810170148.VAA10164@coyotesdaughter.com> Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 21:48:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Azrael Coyotesdaughter <azrael@coyotesdaughter.com> Reply-To: azrael@coyotesdaughter.com To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/8351: documentation error / misleading wording in handbook Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 8351 >Category: docs >Synopsis: documentation error / misleading wording in handbook >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Oct 16 18:50:00 PDT 1998 >Last-Modified: >Originator: Azrael Coyotesdaughter >Organization: Evil Geniuses for a Better Tomarrow >Release: FreeBSD 2.2.7-RELEASE i386 >Environment: >Description: Okay. It started as my fault. I confess; I did something stupid, and my /usr/src/sys directory went away. Poof. But, since I was planning to get to building a custom kernel this coming week, I figured it would probably be a good idea to get it back. So I went to: http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/handbook39.html#41 And got the helpful advice: Note: If there is not a /usr/src/sys directory on your system, then the kernel source has not been been installed. Follow the instructions for installing packages to add this package to your system. Cool, I thought, it's a package. I can add packages, that's something I've already mastered. Woo! Hoo! So I bopped on over to ftp2.freebsd.org, and looked in the /pub/FreeBSD/2.2.7-RELEASE/packages/All directory, and... hmm. There didn't seem to be anything helpfully labeled 'kernal source' or 'system source', or.. well, /anything/ source. To make a long story short, I zipped around the site, looking, and couldn't find it. So I posted a message to the discussion group, and found out that, in fact, it's /not/ a package, and can't be pckg_add'd. So... >How-To-Repeat: Delete your /usr/src/sys directory recursively. Don't ask why, just do it. (Hey! I /said/ it was user error!) Then try and follow the instructions in the handbook. >Fix: Hmm. Well, correcting the handbook page comes to mind. Where /are/ the kernel sources, and how /do/ I install them, if they're not a package? Alternatly, you could make a package with the kernel sources. >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Oct 16 19:42:37 1998 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG> Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA15768 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 19:42:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from federation.addy.com (federation.addy.com [207.239.68.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA15760 for <doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 19:42:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from francisco@natserv.com) Received: from quisqueya.natserv.com (TC2-dial-72-142.oldslip.inch.com [207.240.142.72]) by federation.addy.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id WAA16755; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 22:42:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199810170242.WAA16755@federation.addy.com> X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <19981017001021.52098@nothing-going-on.org> Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 22:42:39 -0000 (GMT) Reply-To: francisco@natserv.com From: Francisco Reyes <francisco@natserv.com> To: Nik Clayton <nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk> Subject: RE: DocBook conversion snapshot Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 16-Oct-98 Nik Clayton wrote: > There's a snapshot of the DocBook version of the Handbook converted to > HTML at > <URL:http://www.freebsd.org/%7enik/handbook/index.html> It is looking good. I particularly like removing the sub-section numbers. One suggestion I have is to keep all navigational links on the left as the previous handbook. I found this approach easier to use. ---- francisco@natserv.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Oct 16 20:13:36 1998 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG> Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA19885 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 20:13:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ocean.campus.luth.se (ocean.campus.luth.se [130.240.194.116]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA19880 for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 20:13:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from karpen@ocean.campus.luth.se) Received: (from karpen@localhost) by ocean.campus.luth.se (8.9.1/8.9.1) id FAA01755; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 05:10:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from karpen) From: Mikael Karpberg <karpen@ocean.campus.luth.se> Message-Id: <199810170310.FAA01755@ocean.campus.luth.se> Subject: Re: FreeBSD User Guide In-Reply-To: <3626C622.23A4E9B6@aei.ca> from Malartre at "Oct 16, 98 00:05:55 am" To: malartre@aei.ca (Malartre) Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 05:10:19 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org According to Malartre: > I would like an automated way to transfer the previous/home/next link on > the top. (any man page?) > I have ---73--- *.html file to edit! > So long and boring. Non trivial, I think. Maybe an emacs keyboard macro could do it if you thought some before you constructed it? :-) > I would also like to know the -exact- meaning of "ie." > Something like "exemple"? It's latin. "ie" == "id est" == "that is" "eg" == "exempli gratia" == "for example" While I'm at it, here's some abbrevations I've seen a lot here and some of which I couldn't figure out myself: YMMV == Your milage may vary MFC == Merge from current YAMFC == Yet another MFC HAND == Have a nice day HTH == Happy to help PITA == Pain in the ass POLA == Principle of least astonishment IIRC == If I recall correctly FYI == For your information IM(NS)(H)O == In my (not so) (humble) opinion UTSL == Use the source, Luke RSN == Real soon now ITYM == I think you mean PR == Problem report (sent with send-pr to the PR database) That's all I can think of straight away... 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I particularly like removing the sub-section numbers. > > One suggestion I have is to keep all navigational links on the left as the > previous handbook. I found this approach easier to use. > > ---- > francisco@natserv.com > It looks really good, but a bit crowded looking? Are there going to be some spaces inserted between the various sections? -- [ Christopher Raven [ E-mail: c.raven@ukonline.co.uk [ ICQ: 2254369 [ To err is human, to power is FreeBSD To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Oct 17 04:50:08 1998 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG> Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA05032 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 04:50:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA05022 for <doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 04:50:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id EAA14582; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 04:50:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oz.phear.net (slwag2p24.ozemail.com.au [203.108.157.72]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA04931 for <FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org>; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 04:48:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@oz.phear.net) Received: (from jim@localhost) by oz.phear.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA00729; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 21:48:42 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from jim) Message-Id: <199810171148.VAA00729@oz.phear.net> Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 21:48:42 +1000 (EST) From: jim@phrantic.phear.net Reply-To: jim@phrantic.phear.net To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/8361: Change to handbook39.html Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 8361 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Change to handbook39.html.. see diff >Confidential: yes >Severity: serious >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat Oct 17 04:50:00 PDT 1998 >Last-Modified: >Originator: Jim Mock >Organization: >Release: FreeBSD 2.2.7-RELEASE i386 >Environment: >Description: If there is not a /usr/src/sys directory on your system, then the kernel source has not been been installed. Follow the instructions for installing packages to add this package to your system. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: *** handbook39.html.old Sat Oct 17 21:29:32 1998 --- handbook39.html Sat Oct 17 21:30:56 1998 *************** *** 47,55 **** <blockquote> <em>Note:</em> If there is <em>not</em> a <code>/usr/src/sys</code> directory on your system, then the ! kernel source has not been been installed. Follow the ! instructions for installing packages to add this package ! to your system. </blockquote> </p> <p>Next, move to the <code>i386/conf</code> directory and copy --- 47,55 ---- <blockquote> <em>Note:</em> If there is <em>not</em> a <code>/usr/src/sys</code> directory on your system, then the ! kernel source has not been been installed. The easiest way ! to do this is by running /stand/sysinstall (as root), choosing ! Configure, then Distributions, then src, then sys. </blockquote> </p> <p>Next, move to the <code>i386/conf</code> directory and copy >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Oct 17 12:20:45 1998 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG> Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA13081 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 12:20:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zeta.hpnc.com (zeta.hpnc.com [206.54.161.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA13072 for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 12:20:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from effe@hpnc.com) Received: from pieces (36-tc1-cltx.hpnc.com [206.54.160.46]) by zeta.hpnc.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id OAA06237 for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 14:20:08 -0500 Message-ID: <000901bdfa04$449858d0$2ea036ce@pieces.Effe> From: "Kyky Effe" <effe@hpnc.com> To: <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: I have EMail Problems Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 14:28:03 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01BDF9DA.5986DFC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BDF9DA.5986DFC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Why my users could not download thier email from thier home using = outlook express or netscape? "they said it has problems with port 110" How do I add user account on my machine using perl/cgi script from the = web? thankyou ? ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BDF9DA.5986DFC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META content=3Dtext/html;charset=3Diso-8859-1 = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D'"MSHTML 4.72.2106.6"' name=3DGENERATOR> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Why my users could not download = thier email from=20 thier home using outlook express or netscape?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>"they said it has problems with = port=20 110"</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>How do I add user account on my = machine using=20 perl/cgi script from the web?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>thankyou ?</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BDF9DA.5986DFC0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Oct 17 19:58:09 1998 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG> Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA26379 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 19:58:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA26373 for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 19:58:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id MAA02820; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 12:27:30 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) id MAA03940; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 12:27:29 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: <19981018122729.V435@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 12:27:29 +0930 From: Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com> To: Kyky Effe <effe@hpnc.com>, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: I have EMail Problems References: <000901bdfa04$449858d0$2ea036ce@pieces.Effe> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <000901bdfa04$449858d0$2ea036ce@pieces.Effe>; from Kyky Effe on Sat, Oct 17, 1998 at 02:28:03PM -0500 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Saturday, 17 October 1998 at 14:28:03 -0500, Kyky Effe wrote: > Why my users could not download thier email from thier home using > outlook express or netscape? "they said it has problems with port > 110" Well, the normal answer would be "what was the exact error message"? But we don't deal in Microsoft problems. > How do I add user account on my machine using perl/cgi script from > the web? If you take my advice, you don't. We have shells for that sort of thing. > thankyou ? Yes. Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Oct 17 21:18:43 1998 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG> Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA04465 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 21:18:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.alphalink.com.au (mail02.alphalink.com.au [203.56.45.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA04448 for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 21:18:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jsoft@alphalink.com.au) Received: from 10.0.1.1.inf (ppp18-20-Melbourne.alphalink.com.au [203.62.180.81]) by mail.alphalink.com.au (8.8.8/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA18462 for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 14:18:10 +1100 Message-ID: <362A5C94.7DBB@alphalink.com.au> Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 14:24:36 -0700 From: Juan Jose Suarez <jsoft@alphalink.com.au> Reply-To: jsoft@alphalink.com.au Organization: JSoft X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I; 16bit) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: FreeBSD / BSDOS Enquire Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, Could it be possible to tell me in a fex lines if FreeBSD will be compatible with the OS which its configuration is shown below. I imagine is a kind of BSD, and I would like to purchase a compatible version. But I am not sure of the one I should look for.. Thanks for your attention. Please email any comments to: jsoft@alphalink.com.au Juan Jose Suarez Berdasco 4/2A Florence St - Melbourne - 3194 - Australia (Follows the configuration of the OS that I need to have compatibility) Platform: osname=bsdos, osvers=3.0, archname=i386-bsdos uname='bsdos server2.hypermart.net 3.0 bsdi bsdos 3.0 kernel #0: tue mar 10 22:52:33 est 1998 root@server2.hypermart.net:usrsrcsyscompilemaxusers256 i386 ' hint=recommended, useposix=true, d_sigaction=define bincompat3=y useperlio=undef d_sfio=undef Compiler: cc='shlicc2', optimize='-O2', gccversion=2.7.2.1 cppflags='' ccflags ='' stdchar='char', d_stdstdio=undef, usevfork=false voidflags=15, castflags=0, d_casti32=define, d_castneg=define intsize=4, alignbytes=4, usemymalloc=n, prototype=define Linker and Libraries: ld='shlicc2', ldflags =' -L/usr/X11/lib -L/usr/local/lib' libpth=/usr/local/lib /usr/shlib /shlib /usr/lib /usr/X11/lib libs=-lrpc -lcurses -ltermcap -lXpm -lXaw -lXmu -lXt -lSM -lICE -lXext -lX11 -ldl -lm -lc libc=/usr/lib/libc.a, so=o useshrplib=false, libperl=libperl.a Dynamic Linking: dlsrc=dl_dlopen.xs, dlext=o, d_dlsymun=undef, ccdlflags=' ' cccdlflags=' ', lddlflags='-r -L/usr/X11/lib -L/usr/local/lib' To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Oct 17 21:33:08 1998 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG> Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA05548 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 21:33:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cimlogic.com.au (cimlog.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.51.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA05537 for <doc@freebsd.org>; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 21:33:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jb@cimlogic.com.au) Received: (from jb@localhost) by cimlogic.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA15774 for doc@freebsd.org; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 14:35:22 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from jb) From: John Birrell <jb@cimlogic.com.au> Message-Id: <199810180435.OAA15774@cimlogic.com.au> Subject: FreeBSD / BSDOS Enquire (fwd) To: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 14:35:21 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ----- Forwarded message from Juan Jose Suarez ----- >From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 18 14:28:04 1998 Message-ID: <362A5C94.7DBB@alphalink.com.au> Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 14:24:36 -0700 From: Juan Jose Suarez <jsoft@alphalink.com.au> Reply-To: jsoft@alphalink.com.au Organization: JSoft X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I; 16bit) To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: FreeBSD / BSDOS Enquire Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, Could it be possible to tell me in a fex lines if FreeBSD will be compatible with the OS which its configuration is shown below. I imagine is a kind of BSD, and I would like to purchase a compatible version. But I am not sure of the one I should look for.. Thanks for your attention. Please email any comments to: jsoft@alphalink.com.au Juan Jose Suarez Berdasco 4/2A Florence St - Melbourne - 3194 - Australia ----- End of forwarded message from Juan Jose Suarez ----- SPAM. That snail-mail address doesn't exist. -- John Birrell - jb@cimlogic.com.au; jb@freebsd.org http://www.cimlogic.com.au/ CIMlogic Pty Ltd, GPO Box 117A, Melbourne Vic 3001, Australia +61 418 353 137 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message