From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Oct 25 09:54:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA00287 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 09:54:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (baerenklau.de.freebsd.org [195.185.195.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA00277 for ; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 09:54:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from w@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id SAA05152; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 18:53:28 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from w@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from w@localhost) by campa.panke.de.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA00954; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 16:42:53 +0100 (MET) (envelope-from w) Message-ID: <19981025164252.A927@panke.de.freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 16:42:52 +0100 From: Wolfram Schneider To: Steve Tracy , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Mirroring the Web pages References: <000701bdfe18$0697e510$f60014ac@application_1.stritch.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.1i In-Reply-To: <000701bdfe18$0697e510$f60014ac@application_1.stritch.edu>; from Steve Tracy on Thu, Oct 22, 1998 at 01:06:51PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Please use cvsup to mirror the web pages. Thanks, Wolfram On 1998-10-22 13:06:51 -0500, Steve Tracy wrote: > I have tried using rsync on a freshly installed FreeBSD 3.0-RELEASE system as suggested on the web pages to mirror the web pages for FreeBSD with no success. The version of rsync pulled in from /usr/ports does not contain the --client option and when I tried using it without this option I get a login incorrect message. Is there a new procedure with FreeBSD 3.0? > > Thanks > Steve Tracy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Oct 25 10:10:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA01716 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 10:10:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA01708 for ; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 10:10:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id KAA19442; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 10:10:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA00848; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 10:03:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <199810251803.KAA00848@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 10:03:48 -0800 (PST) From: bojanb@phy.hr To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/8445: Update of "Installing Mathematica on FreeBSD" for 3.0 version Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 8445 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Update of "Installing Mathematica on FreeBSD" for 3.0 version >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun Oct 25 10:10:00 PST 1998 >Last-Modified: >Originator: Bojan Bistrovic >Organization: University of Zagreb, PMF, Theoretical Physics Department >Release: 2.2.5 >Environment: >Description: This short article describes installation and running of Mathematoca 3.0 for Linux on FreeBSD. It updates the article by Rich Murphey and Chuck Robey. It is in the incoming/math30.txt.gz file. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Oct 25 15:02:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA25870 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 15:02:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hotmail.com (f212.hotmail.com [207.82.251.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA25865 for ; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 15:02:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kandlee@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 1775 invoked by uid 0); 25 Oct 1998 23:02:15 -0000 Message-ID: <19981025230215.1774.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 169.132.153.82 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 15:02:14 PST X-Originating-IP: [169.132.153.82] From: "ketung hsiao" To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 15:02:14 PST Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear Sir/ms, I am a relatively new FREEBSD user. Please tell me why I encounter the in-legible Freebsd related web page using Communicator 4.05 on Window NT platform ? ---------------------------------------------------------- Newsletter Walnut Creek CDROM によって無料で出版, 配布されている FreeBSD Newsletter です. FreeBSD Real-Quick (TM) ニュースレター (RQN) 月刊の (ときには 1 週おきの) ニュースレターには FreeBSD の活動の舞台における最近の開発の成果が載せられています. freebsd-announce を購読することでこのニュースレターを e-mail 経由で 受け取ることができます. FreeBSD ハンドブック (日本語版) 今もなお成長を続けている, FreeBSD ユーザのための包括的な オンラインリソースです. コメントと寄稿は までどうぞ. オリジナルの英語版ハンドブックもあります. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Oct 26 06:57:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA19041 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 06:57:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from second.dialup.access.net (lsmarso.dialup.access.net [166.84.254.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA19033 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 06:57:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from larry@marso.com) Received: (from larry@localhost) by second.dialup.access.net (8.9.1/8.8.8) id JAA12330 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 09:55:49 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from larry) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 09:55:48 -0500 From: "Larry S. Marso" To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: multisessionCD.txt posted to /incoming Message-ID: <19981026095548.B11787@marso.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.94.13i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have written notes on how to create a multisession CD (iso9660 image) and posted them to ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/incoming/multisessionCD.txt Included is an undocumented command that's essential for success, so I think this belongs in the documentation. Best regards -- Larry S. Marso larry@marso.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Oct 26 19:17:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA01582 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 19:17:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from firewall2.startribune.com (firewall2.startribune.com [132.148.80.211]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA01577 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 19:17:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from donn@email.de) From: donn@email.de Received: by firewall2.startribune.com; id VAA00272; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 21:12:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from 1cust115.tnt2.indio.ca.da.uu.net(208.253.180.115) by firewall2.startribune.com via smap (3.2) id xmaza7880; Mon, 26 Oct 98 21:12:18 -0600 Date: Mon, 26 Oct 98 19:12:35 EST To: dawn@worldnet.att.net Subject: Stock Networking News # 9 Message-ID: <199810252035.FAA03663@omega.ibaraki-ct.ac.jp> Reply-To: daryll@worldnet.att.net Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org October 25, 1998 StockNetworking News No. 9 (SNN) Table of Contents - SNN 9 1. Market Commentary 2. USDI - a player in the IRIDIUM Satellite project 3. NLAB and FLNK updates 4. Departments 1. MARKET COMMENTARY As predicted in SNN#8 the US equity markets have stabilized and begun to head higher again. Asian markets have had a nice rebound and some currencies have begun to strengthen against the US dollar. Hong Kong continues to show some weakness, but these problems can probably be traced back to the actions of the Chinese government in Beijing. During the last week European markets have also begun to move higher once again. Against this backdrop and more importantly to our subscribers, there is a groundswell of interest and commentary developing in and about the "small cap" sector of the market. The Russell 2000 small cap index has moved from a low of 303.87 in the first week of October/98 to close on October 23/98 at 367.05. This is an increase of over 17% in 2 weeks. We believe the market is entering a phase where interest will begin to increase in this long neglected sector of the market. There are excellent investment grade and speculative opportunities in this area, which have long been overlooked by the institutional money managers with their fixation on the Dow 30 stocks. The DOW is now beginning to look, if not a little tired, at least fully valued. The fund managers are now going to have to go to work and find new areas in which to deploy their client's money. Leverage is a bad word on Wall Street these days and without leverage these managers are stuck with relatively low returns in the bond and money markets (under 5% on 30 year US treasury bills). It is our feeling this will result in more money flowing into the smaller cap sector of the market - and remember - with the huge amount of money now in mutual funds and the market in general, it only takes a relatively small reallocation of assets by market participants, to have a substantial impact on the price of these smaller company's shares. 2. US DIGITAL COMMUNICATIONS INC. (USDI) We are profiling a new company in this issue of SNN: US Digital Communications Inc. Symbol: USDI Trades: OTC BB USDI is a proxy for one of the biggest events in the evolution of wireless communications - the IRIDIUM Global Communications System. USDI in conjunction with its subsidiaries SKYSITE http://www.skysite.com, INSAT and PROJECT 77 http://www.project77.com, is a supplier of both the Motorola and Kyocera telephones and pagers and a resellers of air time for the IRIDIUM network. As such, expect to see their revenues and profits grow in lock step with the growth of the overall satellite network. The IRIDIUM satellite phone system consists of 66 low level satellites, which completely cover every point of the planet. This $5 billion dollar investment allows any point or individual on earth to access telephone, data transfer or paging service. The 19 members of this consortium, which has been spearheaded by Motorola, include some of the largest telecom companies in the world, as well as a number of very large Middle Eastern, Asian and South American private investment companies. The financial commitment is very large and IRIDIUM http://www.iridium.com will go into service A WEEK FROM TODAY, November 1, 1998. The "start" date for IRIDIUM service is one of the reasons that we are bringing this company to your attention now. As you can see if you look at a chart of the stock at http://www.bigcharts.com the USDI's share price peaked at $7.00 in early July of this year, in what we believe was anticipation of the original service commencement date of September 23, 1998. When it became obvious this date was going to be pushed back to November 1, momentum was lost by the stock. It then bottomed out on October 8 at $ 2.30. In the last week it has moved back to close on Friday (Oct 23) at $3.93 up 7/8s of a point or 28.5% for the day on 366,200 shares traded! See the October 23 USDI News Release at: http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/981023/dc_fcc_us__1.html The IRIDIUM name will be on a lot of peoples "radar" screens soon as a $100 million public relations, marketing and advertising program will help launch this service. This is definitely a "timing" and "momentum" play and there is no doubt that the very wealthy and smart companies and individuals that are part of the IRIDIUM consortium are going to work hard to make this THE wireless network of the future. Given the momentum that is building in the stock, USDI could easily see its old high of $7.00 between now and shortly after startup of the IRIDIUM service in the next week. Depending on a stable market and some positive news which we fully expect, and given the sophistication of the underwriters and companies behind the IRIDIUM project, USDI prices above $10 are quite possible over the next 90 days. (for more on USDI including their very impressive management team go to their site at: http://www.usdi.net) 4. NUONCOLOGY LABS AND FUTURELINK DISTRIBUTORS CORP UPDATE We continue to believe both of these companies will be BIG WINNERS for our subscribers. NuOncology Labs Inc. (NLAB - OTC BB) continues to make progress on its business plan and have announced the opening of their new offices, predictive oncology testing and research building in Houston TX. (See October 15th News Release at: http://biz.yahoo.com/n/n/nlab.html). This new facility is capable of performing testing to the rate of 1000 comprehensive predictive profiles per month. SNN heard NuOncology is planning a road show in Europe that will include NLAB management starting early in November. These "show and tell" meetings are intended to attract additional funding, market sponsorship as well as institutional and broker interest for NLAB. We expect soon after this trip there will be further word on the Arglabin/FTI issue by way of publication of their research in a recognized medical journal. In addition there will be more results coming on the second large sample of patients who have been undergoing treatment for various types of cancer with Arglabin. The share price has fallen on relatively small volume and somewhat tracks the skittish market we have had for the last 2 months. It would not be inconceivable that this market rebounds right back to the $6.50 range in a day or two of trading - especially if there is some further news on the use of Arglabin as a successful cancer therapy. REMEMBER this is not a theoretical concept NLAB is working on - people ARE BEING TREATED with ARGLABIN today and their CANCERS ARE IN REMISSION. This company has the potential to be a $500 million - $1 Billion cap company and we believe you will begin to see some recognition of this in the marketplace BEFORE THE END OF NOVEMBER. For further information on NuOncology Labs Inc. go to: http://206.132.179.167/NuOncology For a current quote on NLAB please go to: http://quote.yahoo.com/q?s=nlab&d=d1 Finally, there is FutureLink Distribution Corp. (FLNK - OTC BB) This has been a torturous ride for all of us, but it is beginning to look like this stock has turned around. SNN believes the fundamental problem in this company from the beginning, was in the share structure - there was simply far too much free trading stock that was obviously in weak hands. It now looks like the stock has been repositioned into long term investors as well the company has come out with an exceptionally bullish press release October 21 which can be viewed at: http://biz.yahoo.com/n/f/flnk.html The stock has rocketed from 30 cents to close at 80 cents in the last two trading sessions of last week and should continue to move higher. FutureLink has added some very strong and savvy finance and management people over the last three months, by way of Directorships and acquisitions. These people are so highly thought of in the computer/communications industry that they were able to convince an underwriter to do a $5 million Private Placement with them at $1.00 per share during a very turbulent time in the general stock markets of the world. We would therefore certainly expect the stock to go above this level in the near term. SNN thinks FLNK has turned the corner and although we are embarrassed about our early call on this company we have always felt they had a winning idea and concept and we expect better days ahead for the stock. For more information on FutureLink please go to: http://www.futurelink.net DEPARTMENTS A. Stock Quotes B. Your Comments C. Disclaimer D. How to Subscribe/Unsubscribe A. STOCK QUOTES For stock quotes on any company please go to: http://www.bigchart.com or http://quote.yahoo.com B. YOUR COMMENTS ARE ALWAYS WELCOME If you wish to make a suggestion or comment about SNN or its content please forward it to: commentsno9@cyberservices.com C. DISCLAIMER By being a subscriber of SNN you are acknowledging you have fully read and understand our disclaimer at: http://206.132.179.167/NuOncology/disclaimer.html D. 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SNN No. 9 copyright 1998 SNN To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Oct 27 00:10:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA23710 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 00:10:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA23702 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 00:10:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id AAA16132; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 00:10:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA23631; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 00:08:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <199810270808.AAA23631@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 00:08:19 -0800 (PST) From: stefan.witzel@zvw.uni-goettingen.de To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/8464: Missing include file when using Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 8464 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Missing include file when using >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Oct 27 00:10:00 PST 1998 >Last-Modified: >Originator: Stefan Witzel >Organization: Universitaet Goettingen >Release: 2.2.7 >Environment: FreeBSD thrake.zvw.uni-goettingen.de 2.2.7-RELEASE FreeBSD 2.2.7-RELEASE #0: Fri Oct 23 13:31:50 CEST 1998 dv1@thrake.zvw.uni-goettingen.de:/usr/src/sys/com pile/thrake-1.0.0 i386 >Description: When compiling a programs which uses shared memory I get an error message that PAGE_SIZE isn't defined. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Either include #include in the SYNOPSIS section of the man pages or #include in /usr/include/sys/shm.h I hope this is the PAGE_SIZE I need. >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Oct 27 05:09:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA16018 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 05:09:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hotmail.com (f283.hotmail.com [207.82.251.174]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA16013 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 05:09:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from xride@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 9854 invoked by uid 0); 27 Oct 1998 13:08:45 -0000 Message-ID: <19981027130845.9853.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 194.182.124.100 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 05:08:45 PST X-Originating-IP: [194.182.124.100] From: "Xride Xride" To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: pci pnp network card (ne200) driver. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 05:08:45 PST Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi FreeBSD sees my netcard and write no drivers assigned, i have tryid to write device ed0 in my kernel, but it did not work, and i have tried to look around in the handbook and the FAQ and asked friends, but no one has been able to answer my ? so now i'm asking you for help. My network card is working with the standert ne2000. hope that you can help me. 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Oct 28 05:20:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA29834 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 05:20:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from norquay.tor.shaw.wave.ca (mail.tor.shaw.wave.ca [24.64.63.48]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA29824 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 05:20:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from zulfiqar@shaw.wave.ca) Received: from skitzomonkey.mtnk1.on.wave.home.com ([24.64.132.44]) by norquay.tor.shaw.wave.ca (Netscape Messaging Server 3.0) with SMTP id AAA22616 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 08:20:42 -0500 Message-ID: <009001be0275$85bc6c60$0100a8c0@skitzomonkey.mtnk1.on.wave.home.com> From: "Zulfiqar Naushad" To: Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 08:18:58 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_008D_01BE024B.9C8AD6E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_008D_01BE024B.9C8AD6E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ------=_NextPart_000_008D_01BE024B.9C8AD6E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
------=_NextPart_000_008D_01BE024B.9C8AD6E0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Oct 28 06:19:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA03798 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 06:19:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (mail.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA03789 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 06:19:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wosch@cs.tu-berlin.de) Received: from caramba.cs.tu-berlin.de (wosch@caramba.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.12]) by mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA12106 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 15:15:13 +0100 (MET) Received: (from wosch@localhost) by caramba.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.9.1/8.9.0) id PAA08425 for doc@freebsd.org; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 15:15:09 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <19981028151508.A8115@caramba.cs.tu-berlin.de> Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 15:15:08 +0100 From: Wolfram Schneider To: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: New prototype for the FreeBSD homepage Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org A first prototype for the new FreeBSD homepage layout ist available at http://www.freebsd.org/~wosch/data/index3.html -- Wolfram Schneider http://freebsd.org/~w/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Oct 28 06:49:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA06793 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 06:49:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from imap.ncsa.es (imap.ncsa.es [194.179.50.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA06781 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 06:49:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jesusr@ncsa.es) Received: from jesus.nexus.es (piolin.ncsa.es [194.179.50.134]) by imap.ncsa.es (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA20125 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 15:48:20 +0100 (CET) Reply-To: "Jesus Rodriguez" From: "Jesus Rodriguez" To: Subject: RE: New prototype for the FreeBSD homepage Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 15:52:12 +0100 Message-ID: <01be0282$8be383a0$8632b3c2@jesus.nexus.es> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >A first prototype for the new FreeBSD homepage layout ist available >at http://www.freebsd.org/~wosch/data/index3.html Looks good :) The left column helps to find all you want... it's a better structure than actual. JesusR. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Oct 28 07:24:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA10389 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 07:24:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mushi.colo.neosoft.com (mushi.colo.neosoft.com [206.109.6.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA10384 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 07:24:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter@taronga.com) Received: (qmail 3148 invoked from network); 28 Oct 1998 15:23:40 -0000 Received: from bonkers.neosoft.com (HELO bonkers.taronga.com) (root@206.109.2.48) by mushi.colo.neosoft.com with SMTP; 28 Oct 1998 15:23:40 -0000 Received: (from peter@localhost) by bonkers.taronga.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id JAA10862; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 09:14:14 -0600 Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 09:14:14 -0600 From: peter@taronga.com (Peter da Silva) Message-Id: <199810281514.JAA10862@bonkers.taronga.com> To: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Newsgroups: taronga.freebsd.doc Subject: Re: New prototype for the FreeBSD homepage References: <19981028151508.A8115@caramba.cs.tu-berlin.de> Organization: none X-No-Archive: yes Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In article <19981028151508.A8115@caramba.cs.tu-berlin.de>, Wolfram Schneider wrote: >A first prototype for the new FreeBSD homepage layout ist available >at http://www.freebsd.org/~wosch/data/index3.html Better. Fewer graphics, more organized layout. -- This is The Reverend Peter da Silva's Boring Sig File - there are no references to Wolves, Kibo, Discordianism, or The Church of the Subgenius in this document "The GCOS GERTS interface is so bad that a description here is inappropriate. Anyone seeking to use this interface should seek divine guidance." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Oct 28 07:37:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA11337 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 07:37:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from not.comversens.com (not.bostech.com [205.139.12.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA11329 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 07:37:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ahd@comversens.com) Received: from mailer.comversens.com by not.comversens.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA03686; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 10:37:02 -0500 Received: from opus.bostech.com by mailer.comversens.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA17848; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 10:37:14 -0500 Received: from comversens.com ([89.12.1.176]) by opus.bostech.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA21408; Wed, 28 Oct 98 10:37:11 EST Message-Id: <363739F7.BFEE57E@comversens.com> Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 10:36:23 -0500 From: Drew Derbyshire Organization: Comverse Network Systems X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: newsflash banner Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org That 'news flash' icon on the FreeBSD home page sticker *really* ought to a 'last updated' date next to it. -- Drew Derbyshire Internet: ahd@comversens.com Comverse Network Systems Telephone: 781-213-2052 "Anyone mind if I throw the terminal server in the pond?" - Tom Trautz To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Oct 28 08:11:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA14579 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 08:11:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from reg.seresc.k12.nh.us (reg.seresc.k12.nh.us [199.92.100.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA14574 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 08:10:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sderdau@gmilcs.org) Received: from gmilcs.org ([208.133.157.181]) by reg.seresc.k12.nh.us (8.8.8/8.6.11) with ESMTP id LAA09946 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 11:22:11 -0500 Message-ID: <3637EAF5.E5B9C8C0@gmilcs.org> Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 23:11:34 -0500 From: "Stephen A. 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Oct 28 15:16:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA01161 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 15:16:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA01146 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 15:16:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id JAA19916; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 09:44:46 +1030 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) id JAA03018; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 09:44:46 +1030 (CST) Message-ID: <19981029094445.S25247@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 09:44:45 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Wolfram Schneider , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: New prototype for the FreeBSD homepage References: <19981028151508.A8115@caramba.cs.tu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <19981028151508.A8115@caramba.cs.tu-berlin.de>; from Wolfram Schneider on Wed, Oct 28, 1998 at 03:15:08PM +0100 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wednesday, 28 October 1998 at 15:15:08 +0100, Wolfram Schneider wrote: > A first prototype for the new FreeBSD homepage layout ist available > at http://www.freebsd.org/~wosch/data/index3.html Looks *very* good. However (and this isn't just a matter of the home page), how about a "projects" page or some such? There's one project (no, not Vinum) which I have to keep looking for every time, and even the search engine doesn't find anything useful. I'm not going to divulge what it is, because I want to keep it as a test for the new structure. Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Oct 28 15:24:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA02070 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 15:24:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA01998 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 15:24:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA09700; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 23:23:19 GMT (envelope-from nik) Message-ID: <19981028232318.35249@nothing-going-on.org> Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 23:23:19 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Wolfram Schneider , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: New prototype for the FreeBSD homepage References: <19981028151508.A8115@caramba.cs.tu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=tKW2IUtsqtDRztdT X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: <19981028151508.A8115@caramba.cs.tu-berlin.de>; from Wolfram Schneider on Wed, Oct 28, 1998 at 03:15:08PM +0100 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --tKW2IUtsqtDRztdT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Wed, Oct 28, 1998 at 03:15:08PM +0100, Wolfram Schneider wrote: > A first prototype for the new FreeBSD homepage layout ist available > at http://www.freebsd.org/~wosch/data/index3.html Looks good. Could you try it with the attached diff, to ditch the width attributes on the tables and cells? The fixed width means my browser needs to be at least 640 pixels wide, I normally run with it 540 pixels wide, and there's nothing really in the page that requires it. It also drops the table that you had surrounding everything. This means the page will render faster in Netscape (and probably IE) because it doesn't have to wait for the whole page to download before displaying it. It also means that if the top (logo plus drop down list) or bottom (list of 'powered by logos') extend further right than the width of the browser, it won't drag the text with it. To see the difference, apply this patch (call it index4.html or something) then load both of them into two Netscape windows, ~ 540 pixels wide. You should see the main text stays on screen and doesn't require a horizontal scroll, even though the images extend off to the right of the window. N -- C.R.F. Consulting -- we're run to make me richer. . . --tKW2IUtsqtDRztdT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="index3.diff" --- index3.old Wed Oct 28 23:13:52 1998 +++ index3.html Wed Oct 28 23:20:31 1998 @@ -7,15 +7,12 @@
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Then some bright hardware engineer desided that if he could ^^^^^^^ ? 108 force software to do some sleezey tricks, then he'd be able to ^^^^^^^ ? 109 shave a few gates off the design and allow his cpu core to run 110 faster. While it was made to work with this new kind of 111 hardware (known these dayss as RISC), -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 512

This will log all traffic through the connection. The next 513 time the line comes up unexpectedly, you will see the reason 514 logged with a convenient timestamp next to it. ^^^^^^^^^ ? 911 the BNC one, use ``. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This link can't work correctly. Some other are the same. another thing: Maybe you should insert follow at the output of man.cgi: Otherwise, if you use "Traditional Chinese (BIG5)" of character set in Netscape, the typeset will be .... :( 1047 2.1.7R (this actually changed during 2.1-STABLE development) 1048 is to deny all packets that are not explicitly allowed. 1049 1050

If you had unintentionally misconfigured your system for 1051 firewalling, you can restore network operability by typing ^^^^^^^^^^^ ? 1052 the following while logged in as root: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ the following is some patches for FAQ for printing. I think you know there are some bug in PS's index like following: 1.10 Is FreeBSD only available for PCs ? ............................... 6 1.11 Who is responsible for FreeBSD? .................................. 6 ^ here 1.12 Where can I get FreeBSD? .......................................... 6 1.13 Where do I find info on the FreeBSD mailing lists? ........ 8 ^^^^^^^^ here 1.14 What FreeBSD news groups are available? ........................... 8 1.15 Are there FreeBSD IRC (Internet Relay Chat) channels? ..... 8 ^^^^^^^^ here 1.16 Books on FreeBSD .................................................. 9 1.17 How do I access your Problem Report database? .................... 11 patched: 1.10 Is FreeBSD only available for PCs ? ............................... 6 1.11 Who is responsible for FreeBSD? ................................... 6 1.12 Where can I get FreeBSD? .......................................... 6 1.13 Where do I find info on the FreeBSD mailing lists? ................ 8 1.14 What FreeBSD news groups are available? ........................... 8 1.15 Are there FreeBSD IRC (Internet Relay Chat) channels? ............. 8 1.16 Books on FreeBSD .................................................. 9 1.17 How do I access your Problem Report database? .................... 11 Some errata fix are aslo including in this patch. PS: Hope this will helpful for you! And Thanks for you reply. TANET PA at NCU in Taiwan. ----- End forwarded message ----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Oct 31 08:35:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA14226 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 08:35:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail2.svr.freeserve.net (mail2.svr.freeserve.net [195.92.193.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA14220 for ; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 08:35:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from c.raven@ukonline.co.uk) Received: from modem-21.boron.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.2.21] helo=ukonline.co.uk) by mail2.svr.freeserve.net with esmtp (Exim 2.05iplimit-2 #4) id 0zZdzl-0006f1-00; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 16:35:22 +0000 Message-ID: <363B3C2E.9E2B0A38@ukonline.co.uk> Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 16:34:55 +0000 From: Christopher Raven Organization: CIAN X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.7-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: doc@FreeBSD.ORG, PA Subject: Re: [PA@FreeBSD.ee.ntu.edu.tw: Some Question & FYI] References: <19981031165826.A20001@panke.de.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Wolfram Schneider wrote: > 107

Then some bright hardware engineer desided that if he > could > ^^^^^^^ ? Should read decided (made a decision to do something) > 108 force software to do some sleezey tricks, then he'd be > able to > ^^^^^^^ ? Should read sleazy (less than nice ;-) > 109 shave a few gates off the design and allow his cpu core to > run > 110 faster. While it was made to work with this new kind of > 111 hardware (known these dayss as RISC), ill-suited > ^^^^^ ? Should read days > reason > 514 logged with a convenient timestamp next to it. > ^^^^^^^^^ ? This may be legitimate? time stamp (marks the time/date) or timestamp (abridged version) Perhaps hyphenated time-stamp? > > 911 the BNC one, use `` specified > 912 using the ifconfig_* variables in 913 url="http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?rc.conf" > name="/etc/rc.conf">. > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > This link can't work correctly. Some other are the same. > No idea here sorry. > 1050

If you had unintentionally misconfigured your system > for > 1051 firewalling, you can restore network operability by typing > > ^^^^^^^^^^^ ? operability - this is an actual word. (ability to be operated i.e it functions) Not sure of point of the cut bits? -- Christopher Raven E-mail: c.raven@ukonline.co.uk & ICQ: 2254369 http://www.FreeBSD.org/ "The power to serve" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Oct 31 10:16:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA26735 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 10:16:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp05.wxs.nl (smtp05.wxs.nl [195.121.6.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA26696 for ; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 10:16:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from diabolique.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.58.57]) by smtp05.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA5BD7 for ; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 18:16:49 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 19:20:31 +0100 (CET) Organization: Ninth Circle Enterprises From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: FreeBSD Documentation Subject: Dutch translations Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, just to make sure, are there people working on the dutch translations of the documents available online? As I would be happy to contribute. regards, --- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven/Asmodai asmodai(at)wxs.nl Junior Network/Security Specialist FreeBSD & picoBSD: The Power to Serve... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Oct 31 11:04:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA01996 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 11:04:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from vedanix.welearn.com.au (vedanix.welearn.com.au [203.35.200.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA01991 for ; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 11:04:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sue@vedanix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from sue@localhost) by vedanix.welearn.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA09854; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 06:12:04 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from sue) Message-ID: <19981101061204.63924@welearn.com.au> Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 06:12:04 +1100 From: Sue Blake To: Wolfram Schneider , Nik Clayton , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: New prototype for the FreeBSD homepage Mail-Followup-To: Wolfram Schneider , Nik Clayton , doc@FreeBSD.ORG References: <19981028151508.A8115@caramba.cs.tu-berlin.de> <19981028232318.35249@nothing-going-on.org> <19981029132834.A17530@caramba.cs.tu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <19981029132834.A17530@caramba.cs.tu-berlin.de>; from Wolfram Schneider on Thu, Oct 29, 1998 at 01:28:34PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Oct 29, 1998 at 01:28:34PM +0100, Wolfram Schneider wrote: > Thanks for the patch, I put it at > > http://www.freebsd.org/~wosch/data/index4.html > > and a version without the

tag > (no white space on the left hand side of the screen) > > http://www.freebsd.org/~wosch/data/index4c.html index4c.html works better for me after I removed "width=500". The links to other pages are very good, and lend themselves to altering if necessary later on. I especially like the idea of mentioning the site map and putting the search form right on the first page. There is another link that I'm thinking should be there but it'll take some more planning and another web page. We have some visitors who are so sure about what they (think they) have to do, that no hints to the contrary will alter their expectations: I have to download a file, probably called freebsd.zip, probably a couple of megabytes, and then unzip it and run freebsd.exe or setup.exe to see what this program looks like. Then I'll understand what FreeBSD is. My problem is that I can't find any freebsd*.zip, and whenever I follow a link to download it, I only get misdirected to the instructions for installing it. They're no use to me, and won't make sense until I have performed the first correct step: download the freebsd file. That file will probably contain the same instructions anyway, something like readme.doc or install.doc that I can read after I log off and unzip the file. We need a link that will read to them like what they're looking for, something they see as equivalent to "Download freebsd.zip", linking to a file that explains what FreeBSD is in *their* terms, not ours, that explains what an operating system is to someone who does not have that concept at all, and is very clear about what and how much would need to be downloaded if that method is chosen. -- Regards, -*Sue*- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Oct 31 12:32:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA12639 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 12:32:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA12625; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 12:32:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from steve@FreeBSD.org) From: Steve Price Received: (from steve@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id MAA02722; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 12:32:28 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 12:32:28 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199810312032.MAA02722@freefall.freebsd.org> To: steve@FreeBSD.ORG, gnats-admin@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: pending/8472 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: da(4) references nonexistent da(9) Responsible-Changed-From-To: gnats-admin->freebsd-doc Responsible-Changed-By: steve Responsible-Changed-When: Sat Oct 31 12:31:13 PST 1998 Responsible-Changed-Why: Misfiled PR. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Oct 31 13:36:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA20395 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 13:36:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mushi.colo.neosoft.com (mushi.colo.neosoft.com [206.109.6.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA20390 for ; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 13:36:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter@taronga.com) Received: (qmail 13572 invoked from network); 31 Oct 1998 21:35:57 -0000 Received: from bonkers.neosoft.com (HELO bonkers.taronga.com) (root@206.109.2.48) by mushi.colo.neosoft.com with SMTP; 31 Oct 1998 21:35:57 -0000 Received: (from peter@localhost) by bonkers.taronga.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA17201; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 15:35:38 -0600 Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 15:35:38 -0600 From: peter@taronga.com (Peter da Silva) Message-Id: <199810312135.PAA17201@bonkers.taronga.com> To: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: New prototype for the FreeBSD homepage Newsgroups: taronga.freebsd.doc In-Reply-To: <19981101061204.63924@welearn.com.au> References: <19981028151508.A8115@caramba.cs.tu-berlin.de> <19981028232318.35249@nothing-going-on.org> <19981029132834.A17530@caramba.cs.tu-berlin.de>,<19981029132834.A17530@caramba.cs.tu-berlin.de> Organization: none Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In article <19981101061204.63924@welearn.com.au> you write: >There is another link that I'm thinking should be there but it'll take >some more planning and another web page. We have some visitors who are >so sure about what they (think they) have to do, that no hints to the >contrary will alter their expectations: > I have to download a file, probably called freebsd.zip, probably > a couple of megabytes, and then unzip it and run freebsd.exe or > setup.exe to see what this program looks like. Then I'll understand > what FreeBSD is. Do we want people who think that's what FreeBSD is, trying to install and run FreeBSD? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Oct 31 14:01:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA22909 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 14:01:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (suebla.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.44.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA22903 for ; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 14:01:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sue@phoenix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from sue@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.0) id IAA25636; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 08:43:37 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <19981101084334.31126@welearn.com.au> Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 08:43:34 +1100 From: Sue Blake To: Peter da Silva Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: New prototype for the FreeBSD homepage References: <19981028151508.A8115@caramba.cs.tu-berlin.de> <19981028232318.35249@nothing-going-on.org> <19981029132834.A17530@caramba.cs.tu-berlin.de>,<19981029132834.A17530@caramba.cs.tu-berlin.de> <19981101061204.63924@welearn.com.au> <199810312135.PAA17201@bonkers.taronga.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88e In-Reply-To: <199810312135.PAA17201@bonkers.taronga.com>; from Peter da Silva on Sat, Oct 31, 1998 at 03:35:38PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Oct 31, 1998 at 03:35:38PM -0600, Peter da Silva wrote: > In article <19981101061204.63924@welearn.com.au> you write: > >There is another link that I'm thinking should be there but it'll take > >some more planning and another web page. We have some visitors who are > >so sure about what they (think they) have to do, that no hints to the > >contrary will alter their expectations: > > > I have to download a file, probably called freebsd.zip, probably > > a couple of megabytes, and then unzip it and run freebsd.exe or > > setup.exe to see what this program looks like. Then I'll understand > > what FreeBSD is. > > Do we want people who think that's what FreeBSD is, trying to install and > run FreeBSD? No. That's why we need to direct them to something they can understand instead of letting them end up in -questions where nobody has the time to understand them. It shows we have respect for their time even though they are no use to us. -- Regards, -*Sue*- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Oct 31 15:24:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA01356 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 15:24:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dt053n18.san.rr.com (dt053n18.san.rr.com [204.210.34.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA01351 for ; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 15:24:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Studded@gorean.org) Received: from gorean.org (Studded@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dt053n18.san.rr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA15276; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 15:23:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Studded@gorean.org) Message-ID: <363B9BD5.3D83CF2D@gorean.org> Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 15:23:01 -0800 From: Studded Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.7-STABLE-1026 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sue Blake CC: Peter da Silva , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: New prototype for the FreeBSD homepage References: <19981028151508.A8115@caramba.cs.tu-berlin.de> <19981028232318.35249@nothing-going-on.org> <19981029132834.A17530@caramba.cs.tu-berlin.de>,<19981029132834.A17530@caramba.cs.tu-berlin.de> <19981101061204.63924@welearn.com.au> <199810312135.PAA17201@bonkers.taronga.com> <19981101084334.31126@welearn.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sue Blake wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 31, 1998 at 03:35:38PM -0600, Peter da Silva wrote: > > In article <19981101061204.63924@welearn.com.au> you write: > > >There is another link that I'm thinking should be there but it'll take > > >some more planning and another web page. We have some visitors who are > > >so sure about what they (think they) have to do, that no hints to the > > >contrary will alter their expectations: > > > > > I have to download a file, probably called freebsd.zip, probably > > > a couple of megabytes, and then unzip it and run freebsd.exe or > > > setup.exe to see what this program looks like. Then I'll understand > > > what FreeBSD is. > > > > Do we want people who think that's what FreeBSD is, trying to install and > > run FreeBSD? > > No. That's why we need to direct them to something they can understand > instead of letting them end up in -questions where nobody has the time > to understand them. It shows we have respect for their time even though > they are no use to us. Maybe there is too much snipping in this thread, but I don't understand what either of you are talking about. Can whoever wants there to be a change please provide a lot more detail about why, and perhaps a sample text that the link would point to? Doug -- *** Chief Operations Officer, DALnet IRC network *** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Oct 31 17:54:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA18532 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 17:54:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cepheus.azstarnet.com (cepheus.azstarnet.com [169.197.56.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA18525 for ; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 17:54:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from no-email@azstarnet.com) Received: from azstarnet.com (dialup21ip072.tus.azstarnet.com [169.197.40.72]) by cepheus.azstarnet.com (8.8.5-nerd/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA05038 for ; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 18:53:42 -0700 (MST) X-Sent-via: StarNet http://www.azstarnet.com/ Message-ID: <363BBF42.CF8C57F3@azstarnet.com> Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 18:54:10 -0700 From: Randy Organization: not likely X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.7-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Install Preview of FreeBSD 2.2.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I finished the Install Preview of FreeBSD 2.2.7 and uploaded to: http://www.freebsd.org/~rpratt/227/index.html Thanks for all the direct comments on the last version. Those were incorporated as well as a general re-organization in multiple page format. Randy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Oct 31 21:35:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA12140 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 21:35:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gamma.aei.ca (gamma.aei.ca [206.123.6.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA12135 for ; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 21:35:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from malartre@aei.ca) Received: from aei.ca (pm01-06.aei.ca [206.123.6.106]) by gamma.aei.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA18021; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 00:35:45 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <363BF2F0.D1012DE3@aei.ca> Date: Sun, 01 Nov 1998 00:34:40 -0500 From: Malartre X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.7-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Randy CC: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Install Preview of FreeBSD 2.2.7 References: <363BBF42.CF8C57F3@azstarnet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Randy wrote: > > I finished the Install Preview of FreeBSD 2.2.7 and uploaded to: > http://www.freebsd.org/~rpratt/227/index.html > > Thanks for all the direct comments on the last version. Those were > incorporated as well as a general re-organization in multiple page > format. > > Randy Great work! Just one error: Starting from:http://www.freebsd.org/~rpratt/227/ftp_anon.html to:http://www.freebsd.org/~rpratt/227/freebsdboot.html The link at bottom:Install Preview of FreeBSD : FreeBSD Bootup is pointing to www.freebsd.org/index.html I think it should be pointing to http://www.freebsd.org/~rpratt/227/index.html Tank you -- [Malartre][malartre@aei.ca][http://www.aei.ca/~malartre/] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Oct 31 22:07:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA15349 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 22:07:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gamma.aei.ca (gamma.aei.ca [206.123.6.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA15341 for ; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 22:07:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from malartre@aei.ca) Received: from aei.ca (pm01-06.aei.ca [206.123.6.106]) by gamma.aei.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA19691; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 01:07:18 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <363BFA57.E061C36@aei.ca> Date: Sun, 01 Nov 1998 01:06:15 -0500 From: Malartre X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.7-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sue Blake CC: Peter da Silva , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: New prototype for the FreeBSD homepage References: <19981028151508.A8115@caramba.cs.tu-berlin.de> <19981028232318.35249@nothing-going-on.org> <19981029132834.A17530@caramba.cs.tu-berlin.de>,<19981029132834.A17530@caramba.cs.tu-berlin.de> <19981101061204.63924@welearn.com.au> <199810312135.PAA17201@bonkers.taronga.com> <19981101084334.31126@welearn.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sue Blake wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 31, 1998 at 03:35:38PM -0600, Peter da Silva wrote: > > In article <19981101061204.63924@welearn.com.au> you write: > > >There is another link that I'm thinking should be there but it'll take > > >some more planning and another web page. We have some visitors who are > > >so sure about what they (think they) have to do, that no hints to the > > >contrary will alter their expectations: > > > > > I have to download a file, probably called freebsd.zip, probably > > > a couple of megabytes, and then unzip it and run freebsd.exe or > > > setup.exe to see what this program looks like. Then I'll understand > > > what FreeBSD is. > > > > Do we want people who think that's what FreeBSD is, trying to install and > > run FreeBSD? > > No. That's why we need to direct them to something they can understand > instead of letting them end up in -questions where nobody has the time > to understand them. It shows we have respect for their time even though > they are no use to us. > > -- > > Regards, > -*Sue*- I understand what you mean Sue. I just seen that Wolfram had uploaded the new FreeBSD web page. How about those solutions I see: Change the allignement of the left column in something like that: News ... Software Ported Application I want FreeBSD Download FreeBSD.zip whatever -->Link to "What's FreeBSD" What's FreeBSD -->Deep -simple- explanations that FreeBSD is like a Windows95 not abble to run windows95 applications :-) Getting FreeBSD Release Information ... Or simply write in BOLD in the right column under "What is FreeBSD" "FreeBSD is an advanced BSD UNIX operating system for "PC-compatible" computers, developed and maintained by a large team of individuals. It is not a simple application, but a powerfull operating system at the same level has Win95 and MacOS that don't run Win95-MacOS applications." In a better/more concise way than me. Cya -- [Malartre][malartre@aei.ca][http://www.aei.ca/~malartre/] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Oct 31 22:17:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA16156 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 22:17:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gamma.aei.ca (gamma.aei.ca [206.123.6.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA16150 for ; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 22:17:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from malartre@aei.ca) Received: from aei.ca (pm01-06.aei.ca [206.123.6.106]) by gamma.aei.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA20171; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 01:17:29 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <363BFCB9.6B2C278C@aei.ca> Date: Sun, 01 Nov 1998 01:16:26 -0500 From: Malartre X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.7-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sue Blake , Peter da Silva , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: New prototype for the FreeBSD homepage References: <19981028151508.A8115@caramba.cs.tu-berlin.de> <19981028232318.35249@nothing-going-on.org> <19981029132834.A17530@caramba.cs.tu-berlin.de>,<19981029132834.A17530@caramba.cs.tu-berlin.de> <19981101061204.63924@welearn.com.au> <199810312135.PAA17201@bonkers.taronga.com> <19981101084334.31126@welearn.com.au> <363BFA57.E061C36@aei.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Malartre wrote: > > Sue Blake wrote: > > > > On Sat, Oct 31, 1998 at 03:35:38PM -0600, Peter da Silva wrote: > > > In article <19981101061204.63924@welearn.com.au> you write: > > > >There is another link that I'm thinking should be there but it'll take > > > >some more planning and another web page. We have some visitors who are > > > >so sure about what they (think they) have to do, that no hints to the > > > >contrary will alter their expectations: > > > > > > > I have to download a file, probably called freebsd.zip, probably > > > > a couple of megabytes, and then unzip it and run freebsd.exe or > > > > setup.exe to see what this program looks like. Then I'll understand > > > > what FreeBSD is. > > > > > > Do we want people who think that's what FreeBSD is, trying to install and > > > run FreeBSD? > > > > No. That's why we need to direct them to something they can understand > > instead of letting them end up in -questions where nobody has the time > > to understand them. It shows we have respect for their time even though > > they are no use to us. > > > > -- > > > > Regards, > > -*Sue*- > I understand what you mean Sue. > I just seen that Wolfram had uploaded the new FreeBSD web page. > How about those solutions I see: > Change the allignement of the left column in something like that: > News > ... > Software > Ported Application > I want FreeBSD > Download FreeBSD.zip whatever -->Link to "What's FreeBSD" > What's FreeBSD -->Deep -simple- explanations that FreeBSD is like a > Windows95 not abble to run windows95 applications :-) > Getting FreeBSD > Release Information > ... > > Or simply write in BOLD in the right column under "What is FreeBSD" > "FreeBSD is an advanced BSD UNIX operating system for "PC-compatible" > computers, developed and maintained by a large team of individuals. > It is not a simple application, but a powerfull operating system at > the same level has Win95 and MacOS that don't run Win95-MacOS > applications." > In a better/more concise way than me. > Cya And a screenshot which would be different from Win95 would be helpfull for a newbie to understand the concept. Including some Xterm and the normal stuff like Netscape/The Gimp, etc... -- [Malartre][malartre@aei.ca][http://www.aei.ca/~malartre/] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message