From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Dec 13 02:18:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA09304 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 02:18:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hal-pc.org (hal-pc.org [204.52.135.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA09297 for ; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 02:18:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cravey@hal-pc.org) Received: from [206.180.128.200] (206.180.128.200.dial-ip.hal-pc.org [206.180.128.200]) by hal-pc.org (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id EAA21240 for ; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 04:18:02 -0559 (CST) X-Sender: cravey@hal-pc.org (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 04:18:01 -0600 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Stephen P. Cravey" Subject: Web site error Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org on http://www.freebsd.org/tutorials/devel/devel.html in the last paragraph of section 6.1: Oh, and to get out of Emacs, do C-x C-c (that means hold down the control key, press c, press x and release the control key). It shoud read: Oh, and to get out of Emacs, do C-x C-c (that means hold down the control key, press x, press c and release the control key). Have a nice day. :) -Stephen To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Dec 13 06:02:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA01504 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 06:02:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (baerenklau.de.freebsd.org [195.185.195.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA01497 for ; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 06:02:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from w@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id PAA15112; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 15:01:56 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from w@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from w@localhost) by campa.panke.de.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA05154; Sat, 12 Dec 1998 22:16:34 +0100 (MET) (envelope-from w) Message-ID: <19981212221631.A5140@panke.de.freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 22:16:31 +0100 From: Wolfram Schneider To: Jim Turk , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CGI scripts for FreeBSD documentation project References: <199812092353.AAA77466@oranje.my.domain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Jim Turk on Thu, Dec 10, 1998 at 09:41:20PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 1998-12-10 21:41:20 -0700, Jim Turk wrote: > Wolfram, > I think Marc has the right idea. "checkbot" will do what you requested > with some modification to the report summary. I will work on it this > weekend. Great! Wolfram To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Dec 13 06:02:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA01574 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 06:02:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (baerenklau.de.freebsd.org [195.185.195.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA01558 for ; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 06:02:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from w@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id PAA15131; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 15:02:08 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from w@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from w@localhost) by campa.panke.de.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA05223; Sat, 12 Dec 1998 22:20:21 +0100 (MET) (envelope-from w) Message-ID: <19981212222019.B5140@panke.de.freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 22:20:19 +0100 From: Wolfram Schneider To: Christian Toinard , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problems with the research process on the Web server References: <366FAFFA.5DEDFA32@cnam.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.1i In-Reply-To: <366FAFFA.5DEDFA32@cnam.fr>; from Christian Toinard on Thu, Dec 10, 1998 at 12:26:50PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 1998-12-10 12:26:50 +0100, Christian Toinard wrote: > Here is the result of the reseach: > > The archives freebsd-newbies and freebsd-questions contain the following > items relevant to `"windows and nt"': > > 1.Information on database: freebsd-newbies > Score: 1000; Lines: 36; -12-1998; Archive: freebsd-newbies > > 2.Information on database: freebsd-questions > Score: 1000; Lines: 42; -12-1998; Archive: freebsd-questions > > Didn't get what you expected? Look here for searching hints. > > --------------------------- > > Afterwards, 1. and 2. are not accessible. > Why, A bug in our search engine. No fix available yet ;-{ Wolfram To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Dec 13 07:46:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA10071 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 07:46:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (baerenklau.de.freebsd.org [195.185.195.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA10066 for ; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 07:46:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from w@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id QAA15907; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 16:46:36 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from w@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from w@localhost) by campa.panke.de.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA01785; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 16:40:51 +0100 (MET) (envelope-from w) Message-ID: <19981213164050.A1723@panke.de.freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 16:40:50 +0100 From: Wolfram Schneider To: Trao Her , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: helping References: <000701be256e$b78bdf20$d6c7efd1@athens.sjsu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.1i In-Reply-To: <000701be256e$b78bdf20$d6c7efd1@athens.sjsu.edu>; from Trao Her on Fri, Dec 11, 1998 at 05:28:23PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 1998-12-11 17:28:23 -0800, Trao Her wrote: > Hello, my name is Trao Her and I would like to help in documenting > the handbook. Great! Did you read our list of current projects? http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/current.html Please read also http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/mid.cgi?19981208115457.W543@lehman.com Wolfram To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Dec 13 14:40:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA17671 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 14:40:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from stade.demon.co.uk (stade.demon.co.uk [158.152.29.164]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA17665 for ; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 14:40:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from aw1@stade.co.uk) Received: (from aw1@localhost) by stade.demon.co.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA66746 for doc@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 17:51:53 GMT (envelope-from aw1) Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 17:51:53 +0000 From: Adrian Wontroba To: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Testers required Message-ID: <19981213175153.A28994@titus.stade.co.uk> Reply-To: aw1@stade.co.uk References: <19981210203033.34618@nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: <19981210203033.34618@nothing-going-on.org>; from Nik Clayton on Thu, Dec 10, 1998 at 08:30:33PM +0000 Organization: Stade Computers Ltd, UK X-Phone: +(44) 121 681 6677 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Dec 10, 1998 at 08:30:33PM +0000, Nik Clayton wrote: > Should leave you with a bunch of .html files. Load index.html into your > browser and play around. No index.html - but I have a book1.html which looks like the top of the tree. -- Adrian Wontroba, Stade Computers Limited. phone: (+44) 121 681 6677 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Dec 13 15:00:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA19970 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 15:00:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA19962; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 15:00:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from steve@FreeBSD.org) From: Steve Price Received: (from steve@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id PAA13803; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 15:00:30 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 15:00:30 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812132300.PAA13803@freefall.freebsd.org> To: azrael@coyotesdaughter.com, steve@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/8351 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: documentation error / misleading wording in handbook State-Changed-From-To: open-closed State-Changed-By: steve State-Changed-When: Sun Dec 13 14:59:43 PST 1998 State-Changed-Why: See PR #8361 for a patch to the docs that explains how this is done. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Dec 13 15:35:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA25252 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 15:35:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA25224; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 15:35:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from steve@FreeBSD.org) From: Steve Price Received: (from steve@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id PAA17093; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 15:35:38 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 15:35:38 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812132335.PAA17093@freefall.freebsd.org> To: ryan@ryan.org, steve@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/8337 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: documentation relic State-Changed-From-To: open-closed State-Changed-By: steve State-Changed-When: Sun Dec 13 15:34:22 PST 1998 State-Changed-Why: Commented out offending part of manpage. Thanks! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Dec 13 21:00:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA25471 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 21:00:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA25464 for ; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 21:00:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from Unknown UID 563@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id VAA02686; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 21:00:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from Terry.Dorm10.NCTU.edu.tw (Terry.Dorm10.NCTU.edu.tw [140.113.122.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA25171 for ; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 20:52:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ijliao@Terry.Dorm10.NCTU.edu.tw) Received: (from ijliao@localhost) by Terry.Dorm10.NCTU.edu.tw (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA01949; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 12:51:32 +0800 (CST) Message-Id: <199812140451.MAA01949@Terry.Dorm10.NCTU.edu.tw> Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 12:51:32 +0800 (CST) From: Ying-Chieh Liao Reply-To: ijliao@Terry.Dorm10.NCTU.edu.tw To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/9071: handbook/quotas, 2.2.8 no longer uses /etc/sysconfig Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 9071 >Category: docs >Synopsis: handbook/quotas, 2.2.8 no longer uses /etc/sysconfig >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun Dec 13 21:00:02 PST 1998 >Last-Modified: >Originator: Ying-Chieh Liao >Organization: NCTU CSIE >Release: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386 >Environment: FreeBSD Terry.Dorm10.NCTU.edu.tw 3.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT #0: Fri Dec 11 08:42:03 CST 1998 root@Terry.Dorm10.NCTU.edu.tw:/usr/src/sys/compile/TERRY i386 >Description: 2.2.8 uses /etc/rc.conf , not /etc/sysconfig >How-To-Repeat: more doc/handbook/quotas.sgml //etc/sysconfig >Fix: change /etc/sysconfig to /etc/rc.conf >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Dec 13 21:17:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA27445 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 21:17:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Mailer.lynxus.com ([208.245.219.211]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA27423; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 21:17:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from info@nfline.com) From: info@nfline.com Message-Id: <199812140517.VAA27423@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: NFL Football Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 17:41:40 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org NFL fans! - You have expressed an interest in NFL football. 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Click here for our website www.nfline.com If you don't want further correspondance E-Mail us at Advisor@nfline.com THANKS To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Dec 13 21:49:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA00762 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 21:49:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pobox.com (ferengal-1-179.mdm.mke.execpc.com [169.207.130.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA00743 for ; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 21:49:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hamilton@pobox.com) Message-Id: <199812140549.VAA00743@hub.freebsd.org> Received: (qmail 22563 invoked from network); 13 Dec 1998 23:50:46 -0600 Received: from localhost (HELO pobox.com) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 13 Dec 1998 23:50:46 -0600 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: dump/restore submission Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 23:50:45 -0600 From: Jon Hamilton Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I wrote a quick dump/restore tutorial for a friend, and thought it'd be a good chance to learn the DocBook DTD. After a bit of struggle and shuffling, I wound up with http://www.pobox.com/~hamilton/docs/dump.html and wonder whether it's good enough to find a home somewhere useful (handbook? tutorials? FAQ?). Any suggestions are of course welcome. It could probably stand some more examples and a little more detail here and there, but I thought I'd solicit input and see where it stands. The SGML source is available in http://www.pobox.com/~hamilton/docs/dump.sgml but please be gentle; it's my first attempt at DocBook, and the markup was retrofitted against an existing document, so it's ... fairly ugly. -- Jon Hamilton hamilton@pobox.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 14 03:29:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA11956 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 03:29:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.utexas.edu (wb4-a.mail.utexas.edu [128.83.126.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA11951 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 03:29:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kevin.weiss@mail.utexas.edu) Received: (qmail 27204 invoked by uid 0); 14 Dec 1998 11:29:14 -0000 Received: from dial-30-4.ots.utexas.edu (HELO mojo) (128.83.111.20) by umbs-smtp-4 with SMTP; 14 Dec 1998 11:29:14 -0000 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19981214053712.0079f780@mail.utexas.edu> X-Sender: kevin.weiss@mail.utexas.edu (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 05:37:12 -0600 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG From: Kevin Weiss Subject: question about X-Window Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Response: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Hello! I am having problems with X-Window. When I type xinit, I get "fatal server error"...no screens found also, how do I access my window managers? PS - I am VERY new to Unix/FreeBSD (I come from a solid DOS/Windows background unfortunately) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Kevin Weiss kevin.weiss@mail.utexas.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 14 06:47:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA28800 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 06:47:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from igw3.watson.ibm.com (igw3.watson.ibm.com [198.81.209.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA28792 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 06:47:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ribo@watson.ibm.com) Received: from mailhub1.watson.ibm.com (mailhub1.watson.ibm.com [9.2.249.31]) by igw3.watson.ibm.com (8.8.7/07-11-97) with ESMTP id JAA06324 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 09:46:55 -0500 Received: from ribox.watson.ibm.com (ribox.watson.ibm.com [9.2.24.24]) by mailhub1.watson.ibm.com (8.8.7/Feb-20-98) with SMTP id JAA02064 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 09:46:54 -0500 Received: from zap.watson.ibm.com by ribox.watson.ibm.com (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA25774; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 09:42:21 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19981214094051.02269d40@ribox.watson.ibm.com> X-Sender: ribo@ribox.watson.ibm.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 09:40:51 -0500 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG From: Bob Flavin Subject: Documentation search results Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Could you please include the title of the article that the search engine found rather than the URL. Seeing 'freebsd/FAQ/FAQ34.html' isn't helpful, seeing the title of the question would allow the user to know wether the question is relevant. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 14 08:31:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA08790 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 08:31:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA08685; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 08:29:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from foxfair@FreeBSD.org) From: Howard Received: (from foxfair@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id IAA28874; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 08:29:58 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 08:29:58 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812141629.IAA28874@freefall.freebsd.org> To: ijliao@Terry.Dorm10.NCTU.edu.tw, foxfair@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/9071 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: handbook/quotas, 2.2.8 no longer uses /etc/sysconfig State-Changed-From-To: open-closed State-Changed-By: foxfair State-Changed-When: Mon Dec 14 08:24:31 PST 1998 State-Changed-Why: Submitter was agree with his mis-understanding what he saw. So I closed this PR with his proposal. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 14 08:43:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA09991 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 08:43:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA09856; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 08:40:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from foxfair@FreeBSD.org) From: Howard Received: (from foxfair@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id IAA29588; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 08:40:42 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 08:40:42 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812141640.IAA29588@freefall.freebsd.org> To: ijliao@Terry.Dorm10.NCTU.edu.tw, foxfair@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/9040 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: update some links in www handbook State-Changed-From-To: open-closed State-Changed-By: foxfair State-Changed-When: Mon Dec 14 08:30:25 PST 1998 State-Changed-Why: Nik is working on new style handbook, fixed some bugs. I'll keep an eye on this part if it still come with new doc/ (I hope not). Close it first, let works go on.(Cheers nik) Submitter give me his agreement to close it anyway. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 14 08:43:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA10052 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 08:43:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA09926; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 08:42:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from foxfair@FreeBSD.org) From: Howard Received: (from foxfair@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id IAA29679; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 08:42:03 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 08:42:03 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812141642.IAA29679@freefall.freebsd.org> To: ijliao@Terry.Dorm10.NCTU.edu.tw, foxfair@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/9041 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: update some links in www handbook State-Changed-From-To: open-closed State-Changed-By: foxfair State-Changed-When: Mon Dec 14 08:40:52 PST 1998 State-Changed-Why: See PR/9040. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 14 09:45:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA17085 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 09:45:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from lucy.sms-ct.com (lucy.sms-ct.com [205.238.164.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA17080 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 09:45:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from allen@lucy.sms-ct.com) Received: from localhost by lucy.sms-ct.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA21962 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 11:16:28 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 11:16:28 -0600 (CST) From: allen Reply-To: allen To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: What is it? In-Reply-To: <19981213113954.00012@welearn.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org It's a minor side point, but the "What is FreeBSD?" text appears several pages down when using lynx on a 80x24 terminal. All you initially see are the links in the left frame. So, does it make more sense to see those links initially, or the explanatory text in the right frame? Is it even an option to twiddle something so that lynx shows the right frame on top? - Charles Allen - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 14 12:22:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA06965 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 12:22:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA06942; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 12:22:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA29736; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 20:22:22 GMT (envelope-from nik) Message-ID: <19981214202222.33314@nothing-going-on.org> Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 20:22:22 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Nik Clayton , doc@FreeBSD.ORG, committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: doc/handbook freeze, 16th December References: <19981212001153.00931@nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: <19981212001153.00931@nothing-going-on.org>; from Nik Clayton on Sat, Dec 12, 1998 at 12:11:53AM +0000 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Dec 12, 1998 at 12:11:53AM +0000, Nik Clayton wrote: > Folks, this is a heads up message for the Documentation Project, x-posted > to -doc and -committers. > > I intend to freeze the doc/handbook/ portion of the CVS repository[1] at > 00:00 GMT on Wednesday 16th December. During the freeze, no new commits > should be made to doc/handbook/. Much as I hate to do this, I'm going to postpone the freeze. I've run into some problems with the .sgml -> .tex conversion. Several people are looking at the problem, but even if it was fixed tonight that's not sufficient shakedown time to call a freeze. Hopefully, I'll have more news tomorrow. N -- C.R.F. Consulting -- we're run to make me richer. . . 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It is a complete gradebook/administrative program with a user-friendly interface and email reporting that lets teachers communicate with students and/or parents more effectively. ThinkWave Educator won five stars (out of five) in a recent ZDNet review, which listed numerous 'pros' and no 'cons' for the program. It has received strongly positive feedback from teachers that are currently using the software. With the Holidays coming up, now is a good time to check out the program. The software is a real time saver for any teacher. At this time next semester, submitting grades will be much simpler! The software is available for free download at www.thinkwave.com Best Regards, ThinkWave Software, Inc. If you received this email in error, please respond with REMOVE (all capital letters) in the subject line. Thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 14 16:05:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA06257 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 16:05:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA05916 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 16:05:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA28295; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 00:05:28 GMT (envelope-from nik) Message-ID: <19981215000528.38029@nothing-going-on.org> Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 00:05:28 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: New page for mailing lists / projects / resources Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org What is this? This is a new structure for presenting some information on the FreeBSD web site. Specifically, it's for mailing lists, projects, and resources. I've often thought that the structure of information on the site could use a little work. In particular, a lot of the development effort for FreeBSD centres around the mailing lists. Yet there's no one place subscribers to each list can go to find useful information. Similarly, the list of FreeBSD projects is organised along similar lines to the mailing lists, but they're not cross-referenced. Finally, there's information that's not directly tied to active projects -- for example, resources concerned with advocating FreeBSD. What I really wanted was, for each list, a single page that contained everything I needed -- all the resources of use to members of the list, a list of projects currently involving list members, recommendations for other lists that subscribers might be interested in, a way to search the list, a way to subscribe, and so on. All on one page. Of course, there are times this isn't appropriate. Sometimes you just want a big list of all the projects, or all the resources. It can be very tedious to have to follow umpteen different links, printing each page. So it was important that (at least some of) the information about each mailing list could be collated together on to one page. This is a snap if your site is coming out of a database. But the FreeBSD site isn't. So I've done this using Perl. What do you do? Go and take a look at and play around. From that page you can choose to view the information in one of three ways; 1. Mailing-list-centric See information about each list. Follow the links to go to a page for each list, where you can search the list, subscribe to the list (not yet functional), and view projects and resource appropriate to members of that list. You also get a list of other lists you might want to subscribe to. 2. Project-centric. See a list of the current known projects, organised by mailing list. 3. Resource-centric See a list of the current known resources, organised by mailing list. Note that a list may not necessarily have any projects or resources associated with it, or it might have one, or both. What now? Is this useful? If so, it'll get committed. If not, it won't. I realise it duplicates some information in the Handbook. In this instance, I'd be fairly happy to have the mailing list information eventually disappear from the Handbook (beyond a note explaining where to look on the website for more information). I've also only done a few lists, and they're incomplete. This is just so that people can play around with the idea, and give me feedback. Most of the links to projects and resources that are on the FreeBSD site won't work, because these files are built with paths assuming they're part of the FreeBSD site, as opposed to being part of my home page. N ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Implementation details lists.tar.gz contains the SGML used to create this, as well as the other scripts. You can download it (from the lists/ directory), and unpack it in a checked out copy of the web site source. You'll need to make a lists/ directory for it though. You can rebuild the HTML by typing "make". You might need to apply execute permissions to build_lpr.pl first. Ignore the top level directory for a moment, and look at the hackers/ directory. Makefile is a fairly standard Makefile. If you've got more than an index file in this directory (see advocacy/ for an example) then the "DOCS=" line will need to be expanded. Otherwise, this is all it needs to do. about.sgml must exist for each list. It's a paragraph or two of description about the list. This will appear on the main list page, as well as the list of all mailing lists. otherlists.sgml is a simple list of other mailing lists the user might be interested in. projects.sgml and resources.sgml are HTML fragments that list the projects and resources appropriate for this list. Note that this HTML will be included in files that appear at two different positions in the tree, so any URLs must be absolute at least as far as the root document. By that I mean you can't put in
  • Random resource
    • You *must* put in code like
  • Random resource
    • otherwise links will break. This shouldn't be a problem, even for mirrors. list.ent defines three entities, list-title, list-name, and list-desc. list-name is the lower case list name (as it would appear in an e-mail address), list-title is mixed case. There's no real reason these are separate. They could also be derived from the directory name. list-desc is a longer description, as appropriate. For example, list-desc for "freebsd-fs" is "Filesystems", which makes more sense when viewed standalone. That's all the files you need to define a mailing list. Notice that there's no index.sgml file in here. This is where things get a little more complicated. index.sgml is generated by the Makefile in this directory (by code in ../list.mk). It just symlinks ../list-index-template.sgml to index.sgml. I'll talk about list-index-template.sgml in a bit. How go back up to the lists/ directory. 4 HTML files are built. index.html is from index.sgml, and is produced in the standard way. lists.sgml, projects.sgml, and resources.sgml are used to produce their respective .html files. These three files are generated by build_lpr.pl, a small Perl script. This script checks that the bare minimum files for list exist. Then it produces the three .sgml files. For lists.sgml, the contents of each lists' about.sgml file are pulled into the lists.sgml file. The same thing happens for projects.sgml and resources.sgml (but using each lists' projects.sgml and resources.sgml file as appropriate). However, these two need to check that the file exists before doing the inclusion, since a list might not have one or both of these files. list-index-template.sgml is the master file for the index.sgml files for each list. The top of this file defines 4 special general entities, and 5 parameter entity. The general entities are 'about', 'projects', 'resources', and 'otherlists'. Each one of these has an associated parameter entity with a "do-" prefix. These are all originally set to "IGNORE". These are then used further down in the of the HTML to determine whether or not the *.sgml files are included or not. These parameter entities may be overridden on the sgmlnorm(1) command line. Code in lists.mk checks to see whether each one of those files exists. If it does, the "-i" option is used to change the "IGNORE" directive to "INCLUDE". In this way, the .sgml files are only included in the lists' index.html file if they already exist. The fifth parameter entity is list.ent, which is pulls in the list.ent file. That's it. It's pretty simple really. -- C.R.F. Consulting -- we're run to make me richer. . . To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 15 04:17:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA21712 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 04:17:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from isc.LF.net (auth.LF.net [194.64.4.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA21707 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 04:17:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dolphin@stuttgart.netsurf.de) Received: by isc.LF.net (Smail3.2.0.103/isc.LF.net) via LF.net GmbH Internet Services via remoteip 194.64.4.228 via remotehost holodeck.lf.net with smtp for hub.FreeBSD.ORG id m0zptQ2-000UN1C; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 13:17:38 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <36765344.41C67EA6@stuttgart.netsurf.de> Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 12:17:08 +0000 From: Peter Organization: . X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Port Collection Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I have Probles to get the 2.2.5 to 2.2-stable upgrade kit from the PORTS-Collection. The FTP Client say there is no /pub/FreeBSD/packages-stable/Latest/225upgrade.tgz Where can i find it? Greets, Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 15 05:55:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA00394 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 05:55:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from oitunix.oit.umass.edu (nscs46p6.remote.umass.edu [128.119.180.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA00389 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 05:55:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gp@oitunix.oit.umass.edu) Received: (from gp@localhost) by oitunix.oit.umass.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA18086 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 08:55:23 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gp) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 08:55:23 -0500 From: Greg Pavelcak To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Problems compiling teTeX-beta Message-ID: <19981215085523.D17938@oitunix.oit.umass.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I posted here and to ports about difficulty I was having compiling teTeX-beta. I apparently missed some mails, but someone pointed out to me that this question had been answered on ports before. Since some other people have written to me asking what I found out, and even more who are helping out on the doc project may be interested, here is a relevant posting from the freebsd-ports archive: >I was trying to build the teTeX-beta port (tetex-0.9-981113) under >FreeBSD 3.0-ELF, when ld failed showing the following messages: > >cc -o oxdvi.bin xdvi.o dvi_draw.o dvi_init.o events.o font_open.o gf.o pk.o psdps.o psgs.o psheader.o psnews.o special.o util.o vf.o sfDir.o sfDraw.o sfPath.o sfSelFile.o hypertex.o mime.o wwwfetch.o -L/usr/local/lib -lwww -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lXaw -lXmu -lXt -lSM -lICE -lXext -lX11 ../kpathsea/STATIC/libkpathsea.a -lm >/usr/local/lib/libwww.so: undefined reference to `HText_endAnchor' >/usr/local/lib/libwww.so: undefined reference to `HText_appendParagraph' >/usr/local/lib/libwww.so: undefined reference to `HText_appendLink' >/usr/local/lib/libwww.so: undefined reference to `HText_appendObject' >/usr/local/lib/libwww.so: undefined reference to `HText_appendText' >/usr/local/lib/libwww.so: undefined reference to `HText_endAppend' >/usr/local/lib/libwww.so: undefined reference to `HText_beginAnchor' >/usr/local/lib/libwww.so: undefined reference to `HText_beginAppend' >/usr/local/lib/libwww.so: undefined reference to `HText_setStyle' >/usr/local/lib/libwww.so: undefined reference to `HText_appendImage' >/usr/local/lib/libwww.so: undefined reference to `HText_appendCharacter' >/usr/local/lib/libwww.so: undefined reference to `HText_new2' >gmake[2]: *** [oxdvi.bin] Error 1 > >Previously I had built the libwww-5.2 port without any problems. >A few days ago, I built the same teTeX port succesfully on another >machine, this time running 2.2.8-STABLE (obviously a.out). > >If I move libwww.so to another place, and then I build teTeX again, >everything works fine (i.e., linking with the libwww static library >works). > >I made a little test, compiling and linking a tiny "Hello, world" >program with libwww, and I also got the same error messages; but when >compiled using the -static flag, the program was linked fine. > >Then I switched to examine the libwww sources. Under the "Library/src" >subdirectory I found a file named "HTextImp.h" which defines all the >functions which cause the linking errors. At the beginning of this >file there is a very interesting comment: > > If you are not using the libwww HTML parser but you are compiling > libwww as a shared library then you need to include this dummy > implementation of the HText interface in order to link succesfully. > In order to compile it in, you can do something like this > > #ifdef LIBWWW_SHARED > #include "HTextImp.h" > #endif > >It seems that this comment is clearly related to the teTeX's linking >problem. However, I don't fully understand it. Is it saying that >every program that will be linked with the shared libwww needs to >include the "HTextImp.h" header file? If this is indeed the case, >then the teTeX sources need to be modified... But then, why does the >same teTeX port link fine with the same libwww-5.2 under 2.2.8 (a.out)? > >-- JM >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >José Mª Alcaide | mailto:jose@we.lc.ehu.es >Universidad del País Vasco | http://www.we.lc.ehu.es/~jose >Dpto. de Electricidad y Electrónica | >Facultad de Ciencias - Campus de Lejona | Tel.: +34-946012479 >48940 Lejona (Vizcaya) - SPAIN | Fax: +34-944858139 >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > "Go ahead... make my day." - H. Callahan Hope this helps. Happy Holidays. Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 15 07:04:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA06662 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 07:04:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gomez.yoyo.com (gomez.yoyo.com [204.249.45.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA06654 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 07:04:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fogel@yoyo.com) Received: from fogel.yoyo.com by gomez.yoyo.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03j) id AA109915; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 09:28:55 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19981215100552.006e53cc@gomez.yoyo.com> X-Sender: fogel@gomez.yoyo.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 10:05:52 -0500 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG From: Marc Fogel Subject: minor bug Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Display of following url in Netscape or IE (on PC) displays bolded text as Example, bolded word "DESCRIPTION" displays as: DDEESSCCR... I assume the is an attempt to backspace. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=sudo&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=FreeBSD+Ports&format=html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 15 09:27:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA24136 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 09:27:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA24118; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 09:27:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cracauer@FreeBSD.org) From: Martin Cracauer Received: (from cracauer@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id JAA14314; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 09:27:18 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 09:27:18 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812151727.JAA14314@freefall.freebsd.org> To: reg@shale.csir.co.za, cracauer@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/7795 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Error in gcc man page State-Changed-From-To: open-closed State-Changed-By: cracauer State-Changed-When: Tue Dec 15 18:26:07 MET 1998 State-Changed-Why: Fixed in -current. Should 2.2.x come to an additional release, I'll merge it Thanks for the report. Martin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 15 11:17:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA10607 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 11:17:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns1.yes.no (ns1.yes.no [195.204.136.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA10600 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 11:17:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eivind@bitbox.follo.net) Received: from bitbox.follo.net (bitbox.follo.net [195.204.143.218]) by ns1.yes.no (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA17709; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 20:17:10 +0100 (CET) Received: (from eivind@localhost) by bitbox.follo.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) id UAA50326; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 20:17:08 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <19981215201702.Z46780@follo.net> Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 20:17:02 +0100 From: Eivind Eklund To: Nik Clayton Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: New page for mailing lists / projects / resources References: <19981215000528.38029@nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <19981215000528.38029@nothing-going-on.org>; from Nik Clayton on Tue, Dec 15, 1998 at 12:05:28AM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Dec 15, 1998 at 12:05:28AM +0000, Nik Clayton wrote: > What is this? > > This is a new structure for presenting some information on the FreeBSD > web site. I _like_ it :-) > projects.sgml and resources.sgml are HTML fragments that list the projects > and resources appropriate for this list. Note that this HTML will be > included in files that appear at two different positions in the tree, so any > URLs must be absolute at least as far as the root document. > > By that I mean you can't put in > >
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    • > > You *must* put in code like > >
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    • > > otherwise links will break. This shouldn't be a problem, even for mirrors. I think this is wrong. At least www.jp.freebsd.org use a subdir for the normal FreeBSD pages. Would it be possible to use some entity to refer to basepoints, or somesuch? Eivind. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 15 11:32:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA13194 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 11:32:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jason05.u.washington.edu (jason05.u.washington.edu [140.142.78.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA13187 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 11:32:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jcwells@u.washington.edu) Received: from saul5.u.washington.edu (root@saul5.u.washington.edu [140.142.83.3]) by jason05.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id LAA06708 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 11:32:13 -0800 Received: from S8-37-26.student.washington.edu (S8-37-26.student.washington.edu [128.208.37.26]) by saul5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id LAA12571 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 11:32:12 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 11:31:43 -0800 (PST) From: "Jason C. Wells" X-Sender: jason@s8-37-26.student.washington.edu Reply-To: "Jason C. Wells" To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: -question on -doc Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I was trying to figure out why so many people ask -questions on -doc. http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/handbook353.html#706 Imagine I am a newbie. I read through the list of mailing lists looking for a place to ask a question. freebsd-afs Porting AFS to FreeBSD freebsd-alpha Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha freebsd-doc The FreeBSD Documentation project Ahhh! That's it, freebsd-doc. Never mind the rest of the list which includes -questions near the bottom. I found my match. The same thing goes for http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/handbook355.html#708 I would recommend one or some or all of the following not necessarily in that order. Change the list order so that people hit -questions first. Swap section 27.1.1 with section 27.1.3. Eliminate 27.1.1 as it is redundant with 27.1.3 State that -doc is not the place to ask -questions. Catchya Later, | UW Mechanical Engineering Jason Wells | http://weber.u.washington.edu/~jcwells/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 15 11:42:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA14743 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 11:42:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns1.yes.no (ns1.yes.no [195.204.136.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA14734 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 11:42:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eivind@bitbox.follo.net) Received: from bitbox.follo.net (bitbox.follo.net [195.204.143.218]) by ns1.yes.no (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA18137; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 20:42:26 +0100 (CET) Received: (from eivind@localhost) by bitbox.follo.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) id UAA50474; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 20:42:25 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <19981215204224.C46780@follo.net> Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 20:42:24 +0100 From: Eivind Eklund To: Nik Clayton Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: New page for mailing lists / projects / resources References: <19981215000528.38029@nothing-going-on.org> <19981215201702.Z46780@follo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <19981215201702.Z46780@follo.net>; from Eivind Eklund on Tue, Dec 15, 1998 at 08:17:02PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Dec 15, 1998 at 08:17:02PM +0100, Eivind Eklund wrote: > On Tue, Dec 15, 1998 at 12:05:28AM +0000, Nik Clayton wrote: > > projects.sgml and resources.sgml are HTML fragments that list > > the projects and resources appropriate for this list. Note that > > this HTML will be included in files that appear at two different > > positions in the tree, so any URLs must be absolute at least as > > far as the root document. > > > > By that I mean you can't put in > > > >
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    • > > > > You *must* put in code like > > > >
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    • > > > > otherwise links will break. This shouldn't be a problem, even for mirrors. > > > I think this is wrong. At least www.jp.freebsd.org use a subdir for > the normal FreeBSD pages. > > Would it be possible to use some entity to refer to basepoints, or > somesuch? Thinking a bit more about it - it would be absolutely marvellous if we could let users submit new links for the pages easily. If a script just added them to a checked-out copy of the file on freefall somewhere, one of us could go regularly in and prune & commit. It would make it much easier to keep the site up to date and get a good reference area. Just an idea. Eivind. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 15 13:39:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA29609 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 13:39:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail2.netcologne.de (mail2.netcologne.de [194.8.194.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA29586 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 13:39:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marc@netcologne.de) Received: from oranje.my.domain (dial-ra-nc1-28.netcologne.de [195.14.244.28]) by mail2.netcologne.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA27431; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 22:39:39 +0100 (MET) X-Ncc-Regid: de.netcologne Received: (from marc@localhost) by oranje.my.domain (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA95774; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 22:40:31 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 22:40:31 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <199812152140.WAA95774@oranje.my.domain> From: Marc van Woerkom To: jim_turk@ix.netcom.com CC: doc@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: (message from Jim Turk on Thu, 10 Dec 1998 21:41:20 -0700 (MST)) Subject: Re: CGI scripts for FreeBSD documentation project Reply-to: van.woerkom@netcologne.de Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello Jim! > "checkbot" will do what you requested with some modification Your solution, however you realize it, should honor the conventions for robots i.e. the robots.txt file that tells you where you are welcome and where not. On www.freebsd.org it looks like this: User-agent: * Disallow: /cgi-bin/ Disallow: /cgi/ Disallow: /~jfieber/data/cgi/ Disallow: /~wosch/test/ Disallow: /statistic Disallow: /stat Disallow: /gifs/ Regards, Marc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 15 14:25:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA06322 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 14:25:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA06315 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 14:25:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA26170; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 20:12:58 GMT (envelope-from nik) Message-ID: <19981215201258.20785@nothing-going-on.org> Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 20:12:58 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Eivind Eklund , Nik Clayton Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: New page for mailing lists / projects / resources References: <19981215000528.38029@nothing-going-on.org> <19981215201702.Z46780@follo.net> <19981215204224.C46780@follo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: <19981215204224.C46780@follo.net>; from Eivind Eklund on Tue, Dec 15, 1998 at 08:42:24PM +0100 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Dec 15, 1998 at 08:42:24PM +0100, Eivind Eklund wrote: > Thinking a bit more about it - it would be absolutely marvellous if we > could let users submit new links for the pages easily. If a script > just added them to a checked-out copy of the file on freefall > somewhere, one of us could go regularly in and prune & commit. It > would make it much easier to keep the site up to date and get a good > reference area. Just an idea. Hey! No stealing my ideas. :-) OK, that's slated for version 2. But I didn't want to get everyone worked up this close to Xmas. Actually, I'd implement it somewhat more simply than that. Just put up two boxes asking the user for the URL and a description. Mail that to someone (me, if necessary) who commits once or twice a week. N -- C.R.F. Consulting -- we're run to make me richer. . . To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 15 14:28:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA06664 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 14:28:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA06425 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 14:25:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA27349; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 20:22:35 GMT (envelope-from nik) Message-ID: <19981215202234.29778@nothing-going-on.org> Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 20:22:34 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Eivind Eklund , Nik Clayton Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: New page for mailing lists / projects / resources References: <19981215000528.38029@nothing-going-on.org> <19981215201702.Z46780@follo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: <19981215201702.Z46780@follo.net>; from Eivind Eklund on Tue, Dec 15, 1998 at 08:17:02PM +0100 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Dec 15, 1998 at 08:17:02PM +0100, Eivind Eklund wrote: > On Tue, Dec 15, 1998 at 12:05:28AM +0000, Nik Clayton wrote: > > What is this? > > > > This is a new structure for presenting some information on the FreeBSD > > web site. > > I _like_ it :-) Good. This, incidentally, is why the *BSD myths page has been so long in production. I wanted to get this framework right first. > > projects.sgml and resources.sgml are HTML fragments that list the projects > > and resources appropriate for this list. Note that this HTML will be > > included in files that appear at two different positions in the tree, so > > any URLs must be absolute at least as far as the root document. > > > > By that I mean you can't put in > > > >
  • Random resource
    • > > > > You *must* put in code like > > > >
  • Random resource
    • > > > > otherwise links will break. This shouldn't be a problem, even for mirrors. > > I think this is wrong. At least www.jp.freebsd.org use a subdir for > the normal FreeBSD pages. > > Would it be possible to use some entity to refer to basepoints, or > somesuch? I've just had a quick think about this. It's a horrible kludge, but you could have an &dotdotslash; entity. In list-index-template.sgml it's defined and in lists/{projects|resources|lists}.sgml it's defined as lists/advocacy/projects.sgml would have URLs like ... But it should only be used once in a URL. If you needed to go up two levels you'd write ... That would also do the right thing. ... would be wrong. Thoughts? N -- C.R.F. Consulting -- we're run to make me richer. . . To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 15 14:32:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA07246 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 14:32:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns1.yes.no (ns1.yes.no [195.204.136.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA07094 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 14:32:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eivind@bitbox.follo.net) Received: from bitbox.follo.net (bitbox.follo.net [195.204.143.218]) by ns1.yes.no (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA20590; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 23:32:21 +0100 (CET) Received: (from eivind@localhost) by bitbox.follo.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) id XAA51178; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 23:32:20 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <19981215233215.E46780@follo.net> Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 23:32:15 +0100 From: Eivind Eklund To: Nik Clayton Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: New page for mailing lists / projects / resources References: <19981215000528.38029@nothing-going-on.org> <19981215201702.Z46780@follo.net> <19981215204224.C46780@follo.net> <19981215201258.20785@nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <19981215201258.20785@nothing-going-on.org>; from Nik Clayton on Tue, Dec 15, 1998 at 08:12:58PM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Dec 15, 1998 at 08:12:58PM +0000, Nik Clayton wrote: [... on allowing users to add URLs from the presentation page ...] > Hey! No stealing my ideas. > > :-) > > OK, that's slated for version 2. But I didn't want to get everyone worked > up this close to Xmas. > > Actually, I'd implement it somewhat more simply than that. Just put up > two boxes asking the user for the URL and a description. Mail that to > someone (me, if necessary) who commits once or twice a week. I thought about that first, but came to the conclusion that the element of a human collecting links is both error-prone and time-wasting. Much easier to just append it to a file. Or perhaps do both, to have the mail as a backup. Eivind. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 15 14:37:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA07608 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 14:37:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns1.yes.no (ns1.yes.no [195.204.136.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA07585 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 14:37:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eivind@bitbox.follo.net) Received: from bitbox.follo.net (bitbox.follo.net [195.204.143.218]) by ns1.yes.no (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA20657; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 23:37:38 +0100 (CET) Received: (from eivind@localhost) by bitbox.follo.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) id XAA51196; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 23:37:38 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <19981215233738.F46780@follo.net> Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 23:37:38 +0100 From: Eivind Eklund To: Nik Clayton Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: New page for mailing lists / projects / resources References: <19981215000528.38029@nothing-going-on.org> <19981215201702.Z46780@follo.net> <19981215202234.29778@nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <19981215202234.29778@nothing-going-on.org>; from Nik Clayton on Tue, Dec 15, 1998 at 08:22:34PM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Dec 15, 1998 at 08:22:34PM +0000, Nik Clayton wrote: > > Would it be possible to use some entity to refer to basepoints, or > > somesuch? > > I've just had a quick think about this. It's a horrible kludge, but you > could have an &dotdotslash; entity. In list-index-template.sgml it's defined > > > > and in lists/{projects|resources|lists}.sgml it's defined as > > > > lists/advocacy/projects.sgml would have URLs like > > ... > > But it should only be used once in a URL. If you needed to go up two levels > you'd write > > ... > > That would also do the right thing. > > ... > > would be wrong. > > Thoughts? Call it &listsdir; and have me think it almost not a kludge after all :-) Eivind. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 15 15:30:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA12902 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 15:30:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA12848 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 15:29:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from des@flood.ping.uio.no) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA45204; Wed, 16 Dec 1998 00:29:48 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from des) To: Nik Clayton Cc: Eivind Eklund , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: New page for mailing lists / projects / resources References: <19981215000528.38029@nothing-going-on.org> <19981215201702.Z46780@follo.net> <19981215202234.29778@nothing-going-on.org> From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 16 Dec 1998 00:29:47 +0100 In-Reply-To: Nik Clayton's message of "Tue, 15 Dec 1998 20:22:34 +0000" Message-ID: Lines: 22 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Nik Clayton writes: > I've just had a quick think about this. It's a horrible kludge, but you > could have an &dotdotslash; entity. In list-index-template.sgml it's defined > [...] > But it should only be used once in a URL. If you needed to go up two levels > you'd write > > ... > > That would also do the right thing. > > ... > > would be wrong. > > Thoughts? Ugh, now you put me off my dinner... DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 15 15:32:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA12987 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 15:30:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA12788 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 15:29:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA16925; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 23:24:31 GMT (envelope-from nik) Message-ID: <19981215232431.43363@nothing-going-on.org> Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 23:24:31 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Nik Clayton , Eivind Eklund Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New page for mailing lists / projects / resources References: <19981215000528.38029@nothing-going-on.org> <19981215201702.Z46780@follo.net> <19981215202234.29778@nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: <19981215202234.29778@nothing-going-on.org>; from Nik Clayton on Tue, Dec 15, 1998 at 08:22:34PM +0000 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Dec 15, 1998 at 08:22:34PM +0000, Nik Clayton wrote: > I've just had a quick think about this. It's a horrible kludge, but you > could have an &dotdotslash; entity. In list-index-template.sgml it's defined > > > > and in lists/{projects|resources|lists}.sgml it's defined as > > I've just done this, so links now work properly. to test it, and to download it and test it for yourself. N -- C.R.F. Consulting -- we're run to make me richer. . . To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 15 23:39:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA05314 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 23:39:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (baerenklau.de.freebsd.org [195.185.195.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA05309 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 23:39:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from w@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id IAA19779; Wed, 16 Dec 1998 08:39:35 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from w@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from w@localhost) by campa.panke.de.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA01619; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 16:28:01 +0100 (MET) (envelope-from w) Message-ID: <19981214162759.A1417@panke.de.freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 16:27:59 +0100 From: Wolfram Schneider To: Nik Clayton , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: New page for mailing lists / projects / resources References: <19981215000528.38029@nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.1i In-Reply-To: <19981215000528.38029@nothing-going-on.org>; from Nik Clayton on Tue, Dec 15, 1998 at 12:05:28AM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 1998-12-15 00:05:28 +0000, Nik Clayton wrote: > What now? > > Is this useful? If so, it'll get committed. If not, it won't. > > I realise it duplicates some information in the Handbook. In this instance, > I'd be fairly happy to have the mailing list information eventually > disappear from the Handbook (beyond a note explaining where to look on the > website for more information). Currently the real information is in the Handbook (or FAQ & tutorials) and the web pages are meta information where to find the real docs. This dogma may changed if we install the web pages in /usr/share/doc/web next year. -- Wolfram Schneider http://freebsd.org/~w/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Dec 16 08:52:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA09569 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Wed, 16 Dec 1998 08:52:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA09540; Wed, 16 Dec 1998 08:52:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ghelmer@FreeBSD.org) From: Guy Helmer Received: (from ghelmer@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id IAA24275; Wed, 16 Dec 1998 08:52:04 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 08:52:04 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812161652.IAA24275@freefall.freebsd.org> To: seggers@semyam.dinoco.de, ghelmer@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/7785 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Securelevel 3 not documented in init(8) State-Changed-From-To: open-closed State-Changed-By: ghelmer State-Changed-When: Wed Dec 16 10:51:27 CST 1998 State-Changed-Why: Updated, thanks! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Dec 16 09:15:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA13094 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Wed, 16 Dec 1998 09:15:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA13088; Wed, 16 Dec 1998 09:15:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ghelmer@FreeBSD.org) From: Guy Helmer Received: (from ghelmer@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id JAA25490; Wed, 16 Dec 1998 09:15:04 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 09:15:04 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812161715.JAA25490@freefall.freebsd.org> To: jkb@FreeBSD.ORG, ghelmer@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/8674 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: securelevel 3 is not documented State-Changed-From-To: open-closed State-Changed-By: ghelmer State-Changed-When: Wed Dec 16 11:14:37 CST 1998 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Dec 16 23:43:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA18893 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Wed, 16 Dec 1998 23:43:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from filk.iinet.net.au (filk.iinet.net.au [203.59.24.235]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA18885 for ; Wed, 16 Dec 1998 23:43:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from scotts@westnet.net.au) Received: from westnet.net.au (by177.nv.iinet.net.au [203.14.172.177]) by filk.iinet.net.au (8.8.4/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA27660 for ; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 15:43:26 +0800 Message-ID: <3678B7DB.EFBD2370@westnet.net.au> Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 15:50:51 +0800 From: tiNkAbElE*~ X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: help! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm looking for a picture of the female devil, and for the sake of me I *can not* find one! could you please help me out?? thanks. §älex§ scotts@westnet.net.au To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 17 01:50:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA01909 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 01:50:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA01837 for ; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 01:50:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from Unknown UID 563@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id BAA14945; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 01:50:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from newport-1-5.quick.net (newport-1-5.quick.net [207.212.160.205]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA01287 for ; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 01:46:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from josh@newport-1-5.quick.net) Received: (from josh@localhost) by newport-1-5.quick.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) id BAA24189; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 01:46:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from josh) Message-Id: <199812170946.BAA24189@newport-1-5.quick.net> Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 01:46:01 -0800 (PST) From: josh@quick.net Reply-To: josh@quick.net To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/9111: expr 1 Xr test 1 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 9111 >Category: docs >Synopsis: expr 1 Xr test 1 >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Dec 17 01:50:01 PST 1998 >Last-Modified: >Originator: Josh Gilliam >Organization: >Release: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386 >Environment: src/bin/expr/expr.1 1.7 src/bin/test/test.1 1.7 >Description: Cross-reference test(1) and expr(1) >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: --- src/bin/expr/expr.1~ Wed May 13 00:43:56 1998 +++ src/bin/expr/expr.1 Thu Dec 17 01:36:48 1998 @@ -125,6 +125,8 @@ .It 2 the expression is invalid. .El +.Sh SEE ALSO +.Xr test 1 .Sh STANDARDS The .Nm --- src/bin/test/test.1~ Wed Sep 9 13:43:56 1998 +++ src/bin/test/test.1 Thu Dec 17 01:35:38 1998 @@ -253,6 +253,8 @@ .It >1 An error occurred. .El +.Sh SEE ALSO +.Xr expr 1 .Sh STANDARDS The .Nm >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 17 08:30:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA16168 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 08:30:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA16119 for ; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 08:30:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from Unknown UID 563@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id IAA26898; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 08:30:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA15636; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 08:25:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <199812171625.IAA15636@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 08:25:05 -0800 (PST) From: kkennawa@physics.adelaide.edu.au To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/9115: Spelling nit in apm.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 9115 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Spelling nit in apm.4 >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Dec 17 08:30:00 PST 1998 >Last-Modified: >Originator: Kris Kennaway >Organization: >Release: 3.0-current >Environment: >Description: Spelling nit in apm.4 (anormalous -> anomalous) >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: *** apm.4 Fri Dec 18 02:51:47 1998 --- apm.4~ Fri Dec 18 02:51:35 1998 *************** *** 120,126 **** power and batteries ASAP, if not immediately, and disable this code. .Pp We are very interested in getting this code working, so please send you ! observations of any anormalous behaviour to us. .Pp When .Nm apm --- 120,126 ---- power and batteries ASAP, if not immediately, and disable this code. .Pp We are very interested in getting this code working, so please send you ! observations of any anomalous behaviour to us. .Pp When .Nm apm >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 17 11:04:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA02048 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 11:04:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp01.wxs.nl (smtp01.wxs.nl [195.121.6.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA01918 for ; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 11:04:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from chronias.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.56.124]) by smtp01.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA72A8; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 20:04:12 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19981214053712.0079f780@mail.utexas.edu> Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 20:10:19 +0100 (CET) Organization: Ninth Circle Enterprises From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: Kevin Weiss Subject: RE: question about X-Window Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 14-Dec-98 Kevin Weiss wrote: > I am having problems with X-Window. > > When I type xinit, I get "fatal server error"...no screens found Ye sure the ttyv's are set up correctly? See the FAQ regarding ttyv's. I think ye might miss this entry: ttyvc "/usr/X11R6/bin/xdm -nodaemon" xterm off secure One of the ttyv's in /etc/ttys has to be like this. try typing startx after that... > also, how do I access my window managers? $HOME/.xinitrc put something like twm in it to start twm > PS - I am VERY new to Unix/FreeBSD (I come from a solid DOS/Windows > background unfortunately) Never use DOS/Windows and solid in one sentence ;) --- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven Pax vobiscum... asmodai(at)wxs.nl Network/Security Specialist BSD & picoBSD: The Power to Serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 17 11:07:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA02336 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 11:07:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp01.wxs.nl (smtp01.wxs.nl [195.121.6.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA02329 for ; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 11:07:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from chronias.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.56.124]) by smtp01.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA2F4; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 20:07:11 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 20:13:18 +0100 (CET) Organization: Ninth Circle Enterprises From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: "Jason C. Wells" Subject: RE: -question on -doc Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 15-Dec-98 Jason C. Wells wrote: > Change the list order so that people hit -questions first. > Swap section 27.1.1 with section 27.1.3. > Eliminate 27.1.1 as it is redundant with 27.1.3 > State that -doc is not the place to ask -questions. Aye, this would be a welcome change... It would at least help the clooless newbie to find the correct list to mail to... An extra addition to the documentation project might also be beneficial, something like: Have ye tried asking questions? =) --- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven Pax vobiscum... asmodai(at)wxs.nl Network/Security Specialist BSD & picoBSD: The Power to Serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 17 13:02:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA15707 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 12:58:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (welearn.com.au [139.130.44.81] (may be forged)) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA15648 for ; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 12:57:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sue@phoenix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from sue@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.0) id HAA13344; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 07:57:05 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <19981218075659.20332@welearn.com.au> Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 07:56:59 +1100 From: Sue Blake To: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai Cc: "Jason C. Wells" , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: -question on -doc References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88e In-Reply-To: ; from Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai on Thu, Dec 17, 1998 at 08:13:18PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Dec 17, 1998 at 08:13:18PM +0100, Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote: > On 15-Dec-98 Jason C. Wells wrote: > > Change the list order so that people hit -questions first. > > Swap section 27.1.1 with section 27.1.3. > > Eliminate 27.1.1 as it is redundant with 27.1.3 > > State that -doc is not the place to ask -questions. > > Aye, this would be a welcome change... It would at least help the clooless > newbie to find the correct list to mail to... An extra addition to the > documentation project might also be beneficial, something like: Have ye tried > asking questions? =) That might not help much. I have always found the description of freebsd-questions a real turn-off. In fact, when I was a clueless newbie this haiku in negative terms made me avoid using freebsd-questions. Now that I'm just a newbie it makes me shrug. We've been here before. Apparently the description makes perfect sense to everyone else so I'm just a mutant. Fine. I've got emails here from several other mutants who insist they understood the description to mean keep out. This flag's pretty tattered now. I give up. Almost. -- Regards, -*Sue*- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 17 13:23:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA18099 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 13:23:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gw1.ftw.rsc.raytheon.com (gw1.hughes-defense-comm.com [151.168.2.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA18089 for ; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 13:23:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wjlora@ftw.rsc.raytheon.com) Received: by gw1.ftw.rsc.raytheon.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA28437; Thu, 17 Dec 98 16:23:16 EST Received: from most.ftw.rsc.raytheon.com(151.168.145.33) by gw1.ftw.rsc.raytheon.com via smap (3.2) id xma028411; Thu, 17 Dec 98 16:22:59 -0500 Received: by most (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA05364; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 16:22:57 -0500 Received: from wjlora(151.168.142.86) by most via smap (V1.3mjr) id smI005356; Thu Dec 17 16:22:51 1998 Message-Id: <36797669.29CC1C37@most.fw.hac.com> Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 16:23:53 -0500 From: "Bill Loraine" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; U) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Writing device drivers for FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In the Tutorial "Writing device drivers for FreeBSD" on the Standard Model steps required for adding a driver, step 2 Make room in conf.c - Which the tutorial says is located in "/usr/src/sys/i386/i386/conf.c" on my operating system files(my hard drive with FreeBSD installed) I don't have a conf.c file at all much less in that location. Any help on a correct proceedure or other documentation on writing device drivers for FreeBSD would be helpful. Thanks To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 17 15:00:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA00901 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 15:00:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jason01.u.washington.edu (jason01.u.washington.edu [140.142.70.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA00884 for ; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 15:00:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jcwells@u.washington.edu) Received: from saul10.u.washington.edu (root@saul10.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.73]) by jason01.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id PAA29670; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 15:00:09 -0800 Received: from S8-37-26.student.washington.edu (S8-37-26.student.washington.edu [128.208.37.26]) by saul10.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id PAA03004; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 15:00:08 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 14:59:38 -0800 (PST) From: "Jason C. Wells" X-Sender: jason@s8-37-26.student.washington.edu Reply-To: "Jason C. Wells" To: Sue Blake cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: -question on -doc In-Reply-To: <19981218075659.20332@welearn.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 18 Dec 1998, Sue Blake wrote: >That might not help much. I have always found the description of >freebsd-questions a real turn-off. In fact, when I was a clueless >newbie this haiku in negative terms made me avoid using >freebsd-questions. Now that I'm just a newbie it makes me shrug. > >We've been here before. Apparently the description makes perfect sense >to everyone else so I'm just a mutant. Fine. I've got emails here from >several other mutants who insist they understood the description to >mean keep out. This flag's pretty tattered now. I give up. Almost. Sue, I see your point clearly. ref: http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/handbook355.html#708 This is the mailing list for questions about FreeBSD. You should not send "how to" questions to the technical lists unless you consider the question to be pretty technical. The second thing it says it "you should not how to questions". Hey, these things aren't written in stone. Let me reword it. This is the mailing list for questions about FreeBSD. You should send your "how to" questions to the freebsd-questions list. Unless you are a FreeBSD developer this is probably the place for you to ask your question. Furthermore, many lists say... This is a technical mailing list for which strictly technical content is expected. It does seem that the list charters have a very "stay the hell out of here, here, there and here" attitude to them. It is my guess that they were made that way because someone wanted it to be very clear that you should not be sending things to -hackers, -core, or -security to protect the S/N ratio. What are we trying to accomplish? Are we trying to make absolutuley certain that people don't write to the "sacred" technical lists? Or are we trying to make it clear where is the proper place to write? Let's make it clear where the proper place to write is. If we want to keep technical lists seperate then lets physically seperate them on the html document. There is no sense in forcing a general purpose user to pour through all of the lists summaries. General Purpose Lists - These lists are the most commonly used lists by most common people. You will probably find the list you need listed here. -questions -chat Technical Lists - Unless you are a developer you will probably not need to write to the following lists. -hackers -current Don't just look at this document as a list of paragraphs. Look at it as a whole document. These are my recommendations. Move general purpose lists to the top in a seperate section. This way the general purpose reader hist these first. Move the technical list to the bottom in a seperate section. Delete the subheader "Individual list charters". Do the stuff outlined in the original email that I sent. I don't know jack about SGML. I wish I did. If I post an HTML doc on my website can -docs retromarkup to SGML? I will write in HTML if it can help you guys at all. Catchya Later, | UW Mechanical Engineering Jason Wells | http://weber.u.washington.edu/~jcwells/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 17 16:19:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA11939 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 16:19:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA11931 for ; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 16:19:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA03915; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 20:26:19 GMT (envelope-from nik) Message-ID: <19981217202618.42083@nothing-going-on.org> Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 20:26:18 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: allen , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: What is it? References: <19981213113954.00012@welearn.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: ; from allen on Mon, Dec 14, 1998 at 11:16:28AM -0600 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Dec 14, 1998 at 11:16:28AM -0600, allen wrote: > It's a minor side point, but the "What is FreeBSD?" text appears several > pages down when using lynx on a 80x24 terminal. All you initially see are > the links in the left frame. So, does it make more sense to see those > links initially, or the explanatory text in the right frame? Is it even > an option to twiddle something so that lynx shows the right frame on top? I've changed this in a commit I've just made. The main text now appears first in Lynx, followed by the quick links. N -- C.R.F. Consulting -- we're run to make me richer. . . To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 17 16:25:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA12557 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 16:25:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA12547 for ; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 16:24:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA03242; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 00:24:26 GMT (envelope-from nik) Message-ID: <19981218002425.63347@nothing-going-on.org> Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 00:24:25 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: "Jason C. Wells" , Sue Blake Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: -question on -doc References: <19981218075659.20332@welearn.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Jason C. Wells on Thu, Dec 17, 1998 at 02:59:38PM -0800 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Dec 17, 1998 at 02:59:38PM -0800, Jason C. Wells wrote: > I don't know jack about SGML. I wish I did. If I post an HTML doc on my > website can -docs retromarkup to SGML? Yes. > I will write in HTML if it can help you guys at all. Any and all submissions welcome. It might just take me longer to get the time to do the conversion. If you send a pointer to it using send-pr, other's have an opportunity to grab it and add it. N -- C.R.F. Consulting -- we're run to make me richer. . . To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 17 19:10:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA02521 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 19:10:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA02496; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 19:10:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkoshy@FreeBSD.org) From: Joseph Koshy Received: (from jkoshy@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id TAA01213; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 19:10:10 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 19:10:10 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812180310.TAA01213@freefall.freebsd.org> To: kkennawa@physics.adelaide.edu.au, jkoshy@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/9115 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Spelling nit in apm.4 State-Changed-From-To: open-closed State-Changed-By: jkoshy State-Changed-When: Thu Dec 17 19:09:39 PST 1998 State-Changed-Why: Fixed in rev 1.9 of "src/share/man/man4/man4.i386/apm.4", thanks! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 17 19:17:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA03943 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 19:17:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA03938 for ; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 19:17:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA82233; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 19:17:21 -0800 (PST) To: "Jason C. Wells" cc: Sue Blake , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: -question on -doc In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 17 Dec 1998 14:59:38 PST." Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 19:17:21 -0800 Message-ID: <82229.913951041@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > It does seem that the list charters have a very "stay the hell out of > here, here, there and here" attitude to them. It is my guess that they > were made that way because someone wanted it to be very clear that you > should not be sending things to -hackers, -core, or -security to protect > the S/N ratio. Correct. > What are we trying to accomplish? Are we trying to make absolutuley > certain that people don't write to the "sacred" technical lists? Or are we > trying to make it clear where is the proper place to write? Both. :-) > Let's make it clear where the proper place to write is. If we want to keep > technical lists seperate then lets physically seperate them on the html > document. There is no sense in forcing a general purpose user to pour > through all of the lists summaries. I wouldn't mind this at all. If someone had to work a bit more to find -current and -hackers, said work also hopefully educating them to a level sufficient for meaningful discourse in the technical lists, then I certainly wouldn't object. > I don't know jack about SGML. I wish I did. If I post an HTML doc on my That is easily recified. Go off and meet Jack. :) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 17 19:17:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA04005 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 19:17:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA03991; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 19:17:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkoshy@FreeBSD.org) From: Joseph Koshy Received: (from jkoshy@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id TAA01668; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 19:17:50 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 19:17:50 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812180317.TAA01668@freefall.freebsd.org> To: josh@quick.net, jkoshy@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/9111 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: expr 1 Xr test 1 State-Changed-From-To: open-closed State-Changed-By: jkoshy State-Changed-When: Thu Dec 17 19:16:45 PST 1998 State-Changed-Why: Fixed in rev 1.8 of "src/bin/expr/expr.1", and rev 1.8 of "src/bin/test/test.1", thanks! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 17 19:32:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA05965 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 19:32:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gamma.aei.ca (gamma.aei.ca [206.123.6.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA05936 for ; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 19:32:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from malartre@aei.ca) Received: from aei.ca (ppp-109-60.mtl.aei.ca [207.107.109.60]) by gamma.aei.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA20134; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 22:32:09 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3679CC77.15229A3@aei.ca> Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 22:31:03 -0500 From: Malartre X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.8-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tiNkAbElE*~ CC: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: help! References: <3678B7DB.EFBD2370@westnet.net.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org tiNkAbElE*~ wrote: > > I'm looking for a picture of the female devil, and for the sake of me I > *can not* find one! could you please help me out?? > > thanks. > > §älex§ > scotts@westnet.net.au The is one there: http://www.freebsd.org/~andreas/ I don't know for the copyright issue. -- [Malartre][malartre@aei.ca][http://www.lowrent.org/freebsd/malartre/] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 17 19:52:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA08778 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 19:52:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jason01.u.washington.edu (jason01.u.washington.edu [140.142.70.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA08769 for ; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 19:52:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jcwells@u.washington.edu) Received: from saul6.u.washington.edu (root@saul6.u.washington.edu [140.142.82.1]) by jason01.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id TAA20202; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 19:52:18 -0800 Received: from S8-37-26.student.washington.edu (S8-37-26.student.washington.edu [128.208.37.26]) by saul6.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id TAA21160; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 19:52:18 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 19:51:50 -0800 (PST) From: "Jason C. Wells" X-Sender: jason@s8-37-26.student.washington.edu Reply-To: "Jason C. Wells" To: Nik Clayton cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: -question on -doc In-Reply-To: <19981218002425.63347@nothing-going-on.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 18 Dec 1998, Nik Clayton wrote: >> I will write in HTML if it can help you guys at all. > >Any and all submissions welcome. It might just take me longer to get the >time to do the conversion. If you send a pointer to it using send-pr, >other's have an opportunity to grab it and add it. OK. I will write it and then I will post a URL and submit a send-pr. All of this I will do after I get home from Christmas break if I don't get a shot at a telnet session somewhere 1000 miles on the otherside of the internet. Catchya Later, | UW Mechanical Engineering Jason Wells | http://weber.u.washington.edu/~jcwells/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Dec 18 00:41:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA09361 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 00:41:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nst.docomosentu.co.jp (nst.docomosentu.co.jp [210.164.206.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA09356 for ; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 00:41:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from salu8@webwork.co.jp) From: salu8@webwork.co.jp Received: from nst.docomosentu.co.jp (localhost.docomosentu.co.jp [127.0.0.1]) by nst.docomosentu.co.jp (2.5 Build 2640 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with SMTP id RAA06199; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 17:39:10 +0900 Received: from 207.225.207.125 by nst.docomosentu.co.jp (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 98 00:01:55 EST To: pol90@worldnet.att.net Subject: SNN ALERT Message-ID: <359DFE77.4AC9@erols.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org December 17, 1998 StockNetworking News - Alert News Release - NuOncology Labs Inc. Symbol NLAB - OTC Bulletin Board The company has made a significant News Release regarding the validation of the company's drug, Arglabin, as a Farnesyl Transferase Inhibitor (FTI). The full text of the release can be viewed at: http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/981217/nuoncology_1.html To be removed as a SNN subscriber please put 'delete' in the subject of an empty e-mail and send it to: 4621@usa.net copyright SNN 1998 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Dec 18 07:11:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA18200 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 07:11:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hp9000.chc-chimes.com (hp9000.chc-chimes.com [206.67.97.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA18185 for ; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 07:11:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from billf@chc-chimes.com) Received: from localhost by hp9000.chc-chimes.com with SMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA013822761; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 04:19:21 -0500 Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 04:19:21 -0500 (EST) From: Bill Fumerola To: "Jason C. Wells" Cc: Sue Blake , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: -question on -doc In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 17 Dec 1998, Jason C. Wells wrote: > What are we trying to accomplish? Are we trying to make absolutuley > certain that people don't write to the "sacred" technical lists? Or are we > trying to make it clear where is the proper place to write? We're trying to make it clear that -net is not for questions about ppp and 'how to make a network', that -security is not where to ask how to change your password, and that -multimedia is not where to ask about your sound card. - bill fumerola - billf@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfumerol@computerhorizons.com - billf@FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Dec 18 08:31:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA27524 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 08:31:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA27485; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 08:30:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ache@FreeBSD.org) From: "Andrey A. Chernov" Received: (from ache@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id IAA28739; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 08:30:41 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 08:30:41 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812181630.IAA28739@freefall.freebsd.org> To: andy@icc.surw.chel.su, ache@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/8668 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Russian FAQ State-Changed-From-To: open-analyzed State-Changed-By: ache State-Changed-When: Fri Dec 18 08:29:30 PST 1998 State-Changed-Why: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/incoming/FAQ-ru.tar.gz Not Found Please re-upload. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Dec 18 12:40:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA28506 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 12:40:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA28496 for ; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 12:39:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from Unknown UID 563@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id MAA12115; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 12:40:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from skalman.campus.luth.se (skalman.campus.luth.se [130.240.197.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA28481 for ; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 12:39:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pantzer@skalman.campus.luth.se) Received: (from pantzer@localhost) by skalman.campus.luth.se (8.9.1/8.8.8) id VAA00736; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 21:39:32 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from pantzer) Message-Id: <199812182039.VAA00736@skalman.campus.luth.se> Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 21:39:32 +0100 (CET) From: pantzer@ludd.luth.se Reply-To: pantzer@ludd.luth.se To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/9124: Bad description of /usr/share in hier(7) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 9124 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Bad description of /usr/share in hier(7) >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Dec 18 12:40:00 PST 1998 >Last-Modified: >Originator: Mattias Pantzare >Organization: >Release: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386 >Environment: >Description: Hier describes /usr/share like this: share/ architecture-independent ascii text files That is not true as other things are stored in /usr/share, a better description is: share/ architecture-independent files >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Dec 19 06:45:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA14588 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Sat, 19 Dec 1998 06:45:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from icc.surw.chel.su (surw.chel.su [195.54.2.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA14578; Sat, 19 Dec 1998 06:44:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andy@icc.surw.chel.su) Received: (from andy@localhost) by icc.surw.chel.su (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA10750; Sat, 19 Dec 1998 17:40:31 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from andy) From: Andrey Zakhvatov Message-Id: <199812191440.RAA10750@icc.surw.chel.su> Subject: Re: docs/8668 In-Reply-To: <199812181630.IAA28739@freefall.freebsd.org> from "Andrey A. Chernov" at "Dec 18, 1998 8:30:41 am" To: ache@FreeBSD.ORG (Andrey A. Chernov) Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 17:40:31 +0300 (MSK) Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, > Synopsis: Russian FAQ > > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/incoming/FAQ-ru.tar.gz Not Found > Please re-upload. Done. Also uploaded FAQ-ru-cvs.tar.gz (maybe, for direct CVS merging). I can do man pages translation, but I don't know how to view russian man pages. Please, help me with man page viewing. Sincerely yours, Andy. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Dec 19 13:50:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA22775 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Sat, 19 Dec 1998 13:50:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA22760 for ; Sat, 19 Dec 1998 13:50:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from Unknown UID 563@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id NAA24377; Sat, 19 Dec 1998 13:50:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from tim.xenologics.com (tim.xenologics.com [194.77.5.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA22088 for ; Sat, 19 Dec 1998 13:45:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from seggers@semyam.dinoco.de) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by tim.xenologics.com (8.8.5/8.8.8) with UUCP id WAA13742 for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; Sat, 19 Dec 1998 22:42:38 +0100 (MET) Received: (from seggers@localhost) by semyam.dinoco.de (8.9.1/8.8.8) id QAA00832; Sat, 19 Dec 1998 16:58:26 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from seggers) Message-Id: <199812191558.QAA00832@semyam.dinoco.de> Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 16:58:26 +0100 (CET) From: Stefan Eggers To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: seggers@semyam.dinoco.de X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/9132: Small mistake in rwho(1) man page Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 9132 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Small mistake in rwho(1) man page >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat Dec 19 13:50:01 PST 1998 >Last-Modified: >Originator: Stefan Eggers >Organization: none >Release: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386 >Environment: A -current system from a few days ago. >Description: In the rwho(1) man page in one place the plural form gets used while singular form should have been used. For details see the attached patch. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Index: rwho.1 =================================================================== RCS file: /usr2/FreeBSD/CVSROOT/src/usr.bin/rwho/rwho.1,v retrieving revision 1.3 diff -u -r1.3 rwho.1 --- rwho.1 1997/08/08 12:20:23 1.3 +++ rwho.1 1998/12/19 15:55:48 @@ -52,7 +52,7 @@ assumes the machine is down, and does not report users last known to be logged into that machine. .Pp -If a users hasn't typed to the system for a minute or more, then +If a user hasn't typed to the system for a minute or more, then .Nm reports this idle time. If a user hasn't typed to the system for an hour or more, then >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Dec 19 14:20:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA25581 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Sat, 19 Dec 1998 14:20:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA25571 for ; Sat, 19 Dec 1998 14:20:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from Unknown UID 563@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id OAA25737; Sat, 19 Dec 1998 14:20:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from ma3.seikyou.ne.jp (ma3.seikyou.ne.jp [202.211.152.179]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA25091 for ; Sat, 19 Dec 1998 14:16:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hiloshi@seikyou.ne.jp) Received: from hiloshi.seikyou.ne.jp (kyoto-454.seikyou.ne.jp [202.211.148.9]) by ma3.seikyou.ne.jp (8.8.8/3.6WNSK98032401) with ESMTP id HAA02562; Sun, 20 Dec 1998 07:16:02 +0900 Received: (from hiloshi@localhost) by hiloshi.seikyou.ne.jp (8.8.5/3.5Wpl7) id HAA00303; Sun, 20 Dec 1998 07:15:40 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199812192215.HAA00303@hiloshi.seikyou.ne.jp> Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 07:15:40 +0900 (JST) From: Kaneda Hiloshi To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: vanitas@ma3.seikyou.ne.jp X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/9133: [send-pr]: trifling typos in atmarpd.8 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 9133 >Category: docs >Synopsis: trifling typos in atmarpd.8 >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat Dec 19 14:20:00 PST 1998 >Last-Modified: >Originator: Kaneda Hiloshi >Organization: FreeBSD jp-man project >Release: FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE i386 >Environment: $Id: atmarpd.8,v 1.1 1998/09/15 08:23:15 phk Exp $ http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/usr.sbin/atm/atmarpd/atmarpd.8?rev=1.1 >Description: I think these are typos: line 70: the the -> the line 80: are be -> are >How-To-Repeat: man 8 atmarpd >Fix: --- atmarpd.8.orig Sun Dec 20 06:53:23 1998 +++ atmarpd.8 Sun Dec 20 06:55:15 1998 @@ -67,7 +67,7 @@ The command-line options are: .IP "\fB-l\fP " 15 -Specifies that \fIatmarpd\fP is to write log messages to the the +Specifies that \fIatmarpd\fP is to write log messages to the file named rather than to the system log. .IP "\fB-d\fP" 15 Specifies that \fIatmarpd\fP is to be run in debug mode. @@ -77,7 +77,7 @@ .IP "" 15 Specifies the network interface(s) for which the host is providing ATMARP service and whose caches are to be synchronized using SCSP. -If multiple network interface names are be specified, \fIatmarpd\fP +If multiple network interface names are specified, \fIatmarpd\fP will provide an interface to \fIscspd\fP for the servers on all the specified interfaces. >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Dec 19 22:54:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA10619 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Sat, 19 Dec 1998 22:54:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA10614 for ; Sat, 19 Dec 1998 22:54:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id RAA23609 for ; Sun, 20 Dec 1998 17:24:00 +1030 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) id RAA65127; Sun, 20 Dec 1998 17:24:00 +1030 (CST) Message-ID: <19981220172359.E24125@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 17:23:59 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: FreeBSD Documenters Subject: How do I convert PostScript to .gif? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sorry if this is somewhat off-topic; it's not as much so as it seems. I have some PostScript diagrams that I'd like to use on a web page, so I need them in .gif (or is there something else? The only other one I know is .jpeg, which isn't appropriate for line drawings). I've tried converting with xv, but the resolution is ridiculous (about 72 dpi, I'd guess), and ghostscript doesn't seem to be able to output gif. I'd be grateful for any other suggestions. Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Dec 19 23:43:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA13622 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Sat, 19 Dec 1998 23:43:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (welearn.com.au [139.130.44.81] (may be forged)) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA13613 for ; Sat, 19 Dec 1998 23:43:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sue@phoenix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from sue@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.0) id SAA23204; Sun, 20 Dec 1998 18:42:59 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <19981220184254.05132@welearn.com.au> Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 18:42:54 +1100 From: Sue Blake To: Greg Lehey Cc: FreeBSD Documenters Subject: Re: How do I convert PostScript to .gif? References: <19981220172359.E24125@freebie.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88e In-Reply-To: <19981220172359.E24125@freebie.lemis.com>; from Greg Lehey on Sun, Dec 20, 1998 at 05:23:59PM +1030 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Dec 20, 1998 at 05:23:59PM +1030, Greg Lehey wrote: > Sorry if this is somewhat off-topic; it's not as much so as it seems. > I have some PostScript diagrams that I'd like to use on a web page, > so I need them in .gif (or is there something else? The only other > one I know is .jpeg, which isn't appropriate for line drawings). > > I've tried converting with xv, but the resolution is ridiculous (about > 72 dpi, I'd guess), and ghostscript doesn't seem to be able to output > gif. I'd be grateful for any other suggestions. netpbm looks likely. (UPT p813) -- Regards, -*Sue*- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Dec 19 23:59:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA15183 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Sat, 19 Dec 1998 23:59:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from newport-1-5.quick.net (newport-1-5.quick.net [207.212.160.205]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA15176 for ; Sat, 19 Dec 1998 23:59:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from josh@newport-1-5.quick.net) Received: (from josh@localhost) by newport-1-5.quick.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA80096 for doc@FreeBSD.org; Sat, 19 Dec 1998 23:59:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from josh) Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 23:59:22 -0800 From: Josh Gilliam To: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Release date of FreeBSD 2.0 Message-ID: <19981219235921.A80052@newport-1-5.quick.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.94.16i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org handbook (introduction/chapter.sgml) > Since our release of FreeBSD 2.0 in January of 95, the performance, http://www.freebsd.org/releases/2.0/announce.html > To: announce@freefall.cdrom.com > Subject: 2.0 RELEASE is now available on ftp.freebsd.org! > Date: Tue, 22 Nov 1994 06:35:37 -0800 > From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" I tend to trust the release announcement over the handbook. -- Josh Gilliam 6745 Washington Ave #198 1 626 968 5232 Whittier CA 90601-4325 USA To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message