From owner-freebsd-emulation Wed Sep 23 23:34:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA08939 for freebsd-emulation-outgoing; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 23:34:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from word.smith.net.au (castles184.castles.com [208.214.165.184]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA08836 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 23:34:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Received: from word.smith.net.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by word.smith.net.au (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA00425; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 23:39:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Message-Id: <199809240639.XAA00425@word.smith.net.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: stephen farrell cc: emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sybase/linux In-reply-to: Your message of "23 Sep 1998 19:41:39 CDT." <87hfxys5oc.fsf@couatl.uchicago.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 23:39:28 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org PLEASE SEND EMULATION-RELATED QUESTIONS TO freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.org Thankyou. > ok, with great anticipation i downloaded sybase linux (go to > redhat.com--it's avaliable for FREE!)... i then check it out and to my > grave dissappointment it uses libc6. > > what's the prospects on running this beast under freebsd? how about > linux-libs with gnu libc? You need a very-up-to-date Linux LKM, and the add-on library pack at ftp://time.cdrom.com/pub/incoming/libs.tar.gz. This should make it into the 3.0 ports collection at some stage. No guarantees yet that Sybase will work (I'll look at it at some stage I hope). Oracle doesn't yet. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Thu Sep 24 10:55:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA11341 for freebsd-emulation-outgoing; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 10:55:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from redfish.go2net.com (redfish.go2net.com [207.178.55.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA11335 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 10:55:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcs@go2net.com) Received: from marcs by redfish.go2net.com with smtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0zMFaB-0002HI-00; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 10:53:35 -0700 Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 10:53:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Marc Slemko X-Sender: marcs@redfish To: Mike Smith cc: stephen farrell , emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sybase/linux In-Reply-To: <199809240639.XAA00425@word.smith.net.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 23 Sep 1998, Mike Smith wrote: > > PLEASE SEND EMULATION-RELATED QUESTIONS TO freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.org > > Thankyou. > > > ok, with great anticipation i downloaded sybase linux (go to > > redhat.com--it's avaliable for FREE!)... i then check it out and to my > > grave dissappointment it uses libc6. > > > > what's the prospects on running this beast under freebsd? how about > > linux-libs with gnu libc? > > You need a very-up-to-date Linux LKM, and the add-on library pack at > ftp://time.cdrom.com/pub/incoming/libs.tar.gz. This should make it > into the 3.0 ports collection at some stage. > Unfortunately, it appears like the license prohibits you from using it on FreeBSD under emulation. The license when you download from Caldera says: LICENSE & LICENSE RESTRICTIONS. You are allowed to install and use the Software for free as long as you operate the Software at all times only with the Linux operation system running natively on your hardware system. You may modify, translate or adapt the Software as long as you do not reverse engineer, decompile or disassemble it (except to the extent the laws in your jurisdiction specifically prohibit these restrictions). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Thu Sep 24 11:06:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA12709 for freebsd-emulation-outgoing; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 11:06:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from couatl.uchicago.edu (couatl.uchicago.edu [128.135.21.64]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA12684 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 11:06:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sfarrell@couatl.uchicago.edu) Received: (from sfarrell@localhost) by couatl.uchicago.edu (8.9.1/8.9.0) id NAA02000; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 13:06:38 -0500 (CDT) To: Marc Slemko Cc: Mike Smith , stephen farrell , emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sybase/linux References: From: stephen farrell Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: 24 Sep 1998 13:06:38 -0500 In-Reply-To: Marc Slemko's message of "Thu, 24 Sep 1998 10:53:35 -0700 (PDT)" Message-ID: <87k92tmlld.fsf@couatl.uchicago.edu> Lines: 48 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.42/XEmacs 20.4 - "Emerald" Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Marc Slemko writes: > On Wed, 23 Sep 1998, Mike Smith wrote: > > > > > PLEASE SEND EMULATION-RELATED QUESTIONS TO freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.org > > > > Thankyou. > > > > > ok, with great anticipation i downloaded sybase linux (go to > > > redhat.com--it's avaliable for FREE!)... i then check it out and to my > > > grave dissappointment it uses libc6. > > > > > > what's the prospects on running this beast under freebsd? how about > > > linux-libs with gnu libc? > > > > You need a very-up-to-date Linux LKM, and the add-on library pack at > > ftp://time.cdrom.com/pub/incoming/libs.tar.gz. This should make it > > into the 3.0 ports collection at some stage. > > > > Unfortunately, it appears like the license prohibits you from using it > on FreeBSD under emulation. > > The license when you download from Caldera says: > > LICENSE & LICENSE RESTRICTIONS. You are allowed to install and use the > Software for free as long as you operate the Software at all times only > with the Linux operation system running natively on your hardware > system. You may modify, translate or adapt the Software as long as you > do not reverse engineer, decompile or disassemble it (except to the > extent the laws in your jurisdiction specifically prohibit these > restrictions). Redhat doesn't mention any such restriction. That must just be a caldera thing. (i hope). A little bit ironic that a company that is battling microsoft for unfair business practices seems to be anxious to eliminate BSD unix (what other systems emulate linux?? -- there was that sco thing but i don't think that's serious competetion). Oh well. Anyway, do I need 3.0, or can i get the latest linux emulator for 2.2.7? -- Steve Farrell To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Thu Sep 24 16:05:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA06541 for freebsd-emulation-outgoing; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 16:05:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA06493 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 16:05:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA01639 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 16:11:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199809242311.QAA01639@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Linux Sybase on FreeBSD Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 16:11:18 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Well, after a little tinkering, some results: - Firstly, the license does prohibit you from using Sybase under emulation. You should ring or mail Sybase and complain bitterly about this. (This isn't a Caldera issue, it's in all the releases.) - Everything is linked shared against glibc. This means you need to be super-current and have the right libraries. - Secondly, the get-you started html guide is pretty good; follow it, but also watch the install logfile (it tells you where it is when it starts). You can ignore it failing to create the 'tmp' file, but when it claims buildmaster fails you may have to run it yourself. All the arguments are in the logfile. - When the installer tries to start the database, it will fail unless you have *lots* of shared memory available; in the default case it wants about 10M. You can achieve this with: options "SHMMAXPGS=4096" options "SHMMAX=(SHMMAXPGS*PAGE_SIZE+1)" in your kernel config. Be warned; with this you will probably want at least 64M in your system. I'd appreciate hearing from any experienced Sybase admins who get this far, or who have other suggestions. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Thu Sep 24 20:20:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA16969 for freebsd-emulation-outgoing; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 20:20:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (fallout.campusview.indiana.edu [149.159.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA16955 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 20:20:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jfieber@fallout.campusview.indiana.edu) Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id WAA01558 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 22:20:38 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 22:20:37 -0500 (EST) From: John Fieber To: emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Running Sybase... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've been working on getting linux version Sybase going on FreeBSD 2.2.7. What I've discovered so far, more or less in the order of discover... [details of wrangling with rpm's omitted.] 1. The emulator load executables using ld-linux.so.1 but the sybase binaries just segfault unless started with ld-linux.so.2. For the moment I'm just using a symlink to get around this. 2. The dataserver (tries to) allocates a ~12MB shared memory segment. A substantial increase in of SHMMAXPGS in the kernel config is needed to get past this hurdle. 3. Next, the SIOCSPGRP ioctl isn't handled by the emulator. This is a relatively simple fix once I found out what the failing ioctl actually was. (I added a couple other related ioctls that were missing while I was at it.) 4. With that done, the dataserver launches without any error messages. But at or near the end of initialization it falls into a loop generating the message: Linux-emul(1531): setup() not supported The Linux man page indicates that it it simply returns -1 with an EPERM error when called from a user process. I changed the call to return that, but the server still loops making the call. This is a bit puzzling. Ktrace shown this as the loop: 1531 dataserver CALL getdomainname 1531 dataserver RET getdomainname RESTART 1531 dataserver CALL getdomainname 1531 dataserver RET getdomainname RESTART So I'm puzzled. 5. The client library has some problems recv, somehow associated with failed hostname lookups...it is returning "invalid argument". Maybe the same problem as #4? I'm stuck at #4 and #5 for the moment...if anyone has some suggestions, they would be most welcome. -john To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Thu Sep 24 21:51:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA26296 for freebsd-emulation-outgoing; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 21:51:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ms6.hinet.net (ms6.hinet.net [168.95.4.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA26166; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 21:50:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bv006x@ms22.hinet.net) Received: from mbv006732 (h80.s3.ts32.hinet.net [163.32.3.80]) by ms6.hinet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA01065; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 12:50:18 +0800 (CST) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 12:50:18 +0800 (CST) Message-Id: <199809250450.MAA01065@ms6.hinet.net> From: mbs006372@ms6.hinet.net Subject: ¥§ªyº¸_ÁÚ¦VÅq®p¡@ýyý{þ©ûBûBþ©ý{ýy X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [tw] (Win95; I) Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=BIG5 to: Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ¥§ªyº¸ ÁÚ¦VÅq®p ¤K¤é¡@ýyý{þ©ûBûBþ©ý{ýy «C¬K ¬¡¤O ±´¯Á¥j¤å©ú ¤Ñ¨Ïªº°ê«× ¨C¶g¤G¥Xµo:09/29.10/06.10/13.10/20.10/27.11/03 ¡@ ¦L«×ºëµØ ¶Àª÷¦L¶H ¤C¤é µn®p³y·¥ ÃÀ³N»P·R±¡ªº·¥¦Üªí²{ ¨C¶g¤é¥Xµo:09/27.10/04.10/11.10/18.10/25.11/01 ¡@ ´µ¨½Äõ¥d¦ò°ê´MÄ_ ¤C¤é ´ç°²¥ð¶¢·¥«~ ´¹¼üªºÄ_¥Û ¦ò±Ð¤å¤ÆªºÄ_Âà ¨C¶g¤@¥Xµo:09/28.10/05.10/12.10/19.10/26.11/02. ¡@ ³£¥u­n29,900.¤¸12¤ë20¤é«e ¶¶¹F®È¹C//±ë¶¶°Ñ®È ¹q¸Ü:02-¤G¤­¤»¤@-¤»¤­¤­¤»(¥N) ý{þ©ûBûBþ©ý{ýy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Thu Sep 24 23:48:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA08774 for freebsd-emulation-outgoing; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 23:48:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from word.smith.net.au (castles360.castles.com [208.214.167.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA08748 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 23:48:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Received: from word.smith.net.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by word.smith.net.au (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA00781; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 23:53:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Message-Id: <199809250653.XAA00781@word.smith.net.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: John Fieber cc: emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Running Sybase... In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 24 Sep 1998 22:20:37 CDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 23:53:49 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I've been working on getting linux version Sybase going on > FreeBSD 2.2.7. What I've discovered so far, more or less in the > order of discover... > > [details of wrangling with rpm's omitted.] > > 1. The emulator load executables using ld-linux.so.1 but the > sybase binaries just segfault unless started with > ld-linux.so.2. For the moment I'm just using a symlink to > get around this. There's a very simple patch I committed to -current to get around this; you should have no trouble at all bringing that back to -stable. > 3. Next, the SIOCSPGRP ioctl isn't handled by the emulator. > This is a relatively simple fix once I found out what the > failing ioctl actually was. (I added a couple other related > ioctls that were missing while I was at it.) Commit? Diffs? > 4. With that done, the dataserver launches without any error > messages. But at or near the end of initialization it falls > into a loop generating the message: > > Linux-emul(1531): setup() not supported This actually usually means that you've received a syscall outside the range that we handle - it's effectively an "unknown syscall" message. > This is a bit puzzling. Ktrace shown this as the loop: This is with standard kdump, right? You should use linux_kdump out of the ports collection. > 1531 dataserver CALL getdomainname > 1531 dataserver RET getdomainname RESTART > 1531 dataserver CALL getdomainname > 1531 dataserver RET getdomainname RESTART > > So I'm puzzled. You're definitely using the standard kdump - getdomainname is syscall 162, but under Linux that's nanosleep(), and what you're seeing there looks about right for an idle applications. > 5. The client library has some problems recv, somehow associated > with failed hostname lookups...it is returning "invalid > argument". Maybe the same problem as #4? What are you linking the client library with? -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Fri Sep 25 02:04:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA00763 for freebsd-emulation-outgoing; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 02:04:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from adelphi.physics.adelaide.edu.au (adelphi.physics.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.36.247]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA00746 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 02:04:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kkennawa@physics.adelaide.edu.au) Received: from spectrum.physics.adelaide.edu.au (spectrum [129.127.36.1]) by adelphi.physics.adelaide.edu.au (8.8.8/8.8.8/UofA-1.5) with SMTP id SAA03186 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 18:34:01 +0930 (CST) Received: from localhost by spectrum.physics.adelaide.edu.au; (5.65/1.1.8.2/26Jun95-0330PM) id AA24829; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 18:34:00 +0930 Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 18:33:58 +0930 (CST) From: Kris Kennaway To: emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: =?X-UNKNOWN?Q?Re=3A_=A5=A7=AAy=BA=B8=5F=C1=DA=A6V=C5q=AEp=A1=40=FDy=FD{?= =?X-UNKNOWN?Q?=FE=A9=FBB=FBB=FE=A9=FD{=FDy?= In-Reply-To: <199809250450.MAA01065@ms6.hinet.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id CAA00755 Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 25 Sep 1998 mbs006372@ms6.hinet.net wrote: > «C¬K ¬¡¤O > ±´¯Á¥j¤å©ú ¤Ñ¨Ïªº°ê«× > ¨C¶g¤G¥Xµo:09/29.10/06.10/13.10/20.10/27.11/03 Does anyone know what this is supposed to be? I've seen a few messages which look like this on the mailing lists recently, and this one (or a reasonable facsimile thereof) just popped up on a couple of them also. Are spammers starting to operate in korean now as well or something? :-) Kris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Fri Sep 25 06:33:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA02706 for freebsd-emulation-outgoing; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 06:33:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (fallout.campusview.indiana.edu [149.159.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA02699 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 06:33:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jfieber@fallout.campusview.indiana.edu) Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id IAA02554; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 08:33:05 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 08:33:05 -0500 (EST) From: John Fieber To: Mike Smith cc: emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Running Sybase... In-Reply-To: <199809250653.XAA00781@word.smith.net.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 24 Sep 1998, Mike Smith wrote: > > This is a bit puzzling. Ktrace shown this as the loop: > > This is with standard kdump, right? You should use linux_kdump out of > the ports collection. I'll check that one out. > > 5. The client library has some problems recv, somehow associated > > with failed hostname lookups...it is returning "invalid > > argument". Maybe the same problem as #4? > > What are you linking the client library with? Nothing. The standard clients and admin tools report: Operating-system error: Invalid argument DB-LIBRARY error: Unknown host machine name. I guessed it was common library code that was failing. -john To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Fri Sep 25 06:46:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA03714 for freebsd-emulation-outgoing; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 06:46:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smok.apk.net (mail.apk.net [207.54.158.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA03709 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 06:45:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stuart@junior.apk.net) Received: from carbon (as5-22.apk.net [207.54.160.220]) by smok.apk.net (8.9.1/8.9.1/ts-apk-rel.980722) with SMTP id JAA18170 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 09:15:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199809251315.JAA18170@smok.apk.net> From: "Stuart Krivis" Organization: Yoyodyne Propulsion Systems, Inc. To: emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 09:09:30 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: sybase/linux Reply-to: stuart@krivis.com References: <199809240639.XAA00425@word.smith.net.au> In-reply-to: X-PM-Encryptor: QDPGP, 4 X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01a) Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: RIPEMD160 On 24 Sep 98, at 10:53, Marc Slemko wrote: > The license when you download from Caldera says: > > LICENSE & LICENSE RESTRICTIONS. You are allowed to install and use the > Software for free as long as you operate the Software at all times only > with the Linux operation system running natively on your hardware system. > You may modify, translate or adapt the Software as long as you do not > reverse engineer, decompile or disassemble it (except to the extent the > laws in your jurisdiction specifically prohibit these restrictions). This raises the question: "What is the Linux Operating System?" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 5.5.5 -- QDPGP 2.12 Comment: Contains no artificial flavoring or coloring agents. iQEVAwUBNguWCaBS+rN8ymX7AQMwbwf+JrumwiKFu4uQ59ugLdoUlUM+yL2YkOiG SIbYvbZfoZTrR4RccEu2Rk5BRhrhDYdwKQk2UrKtVGRPoa4mmZvPmNoMyldwPmpE xvOwWaW85CJ6hIW6Gk+2287EnZuCEnQZNyqMpUiQsz/X4E+P59mVwNkQAdCe5a4R I5fzhpw50dtjuj6WOwzPCKjuntJdaICRoVPCtzxCMSa4EG/1Y+1hT3yx7V8bKClW FJpR2AsT2C0FMl11vWNDp/OhW6Qt5VrDH0DtpJmscFWwjoNQocEUOSXdSdoM0VRw SJgbAFs4X/otAS+org5VvgYviz5B8EQmtmYxproyCoy5/sdFuObJwQ== =O0Dz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Stuart Krivis stuart@krivis.com [Team APK] Fourth law of programming: Anything that can go wrong wi sendmail: segmentation violation - core dumped To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Fri Sep 25 08:52:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA20906 for freebsd-emulation-outgoing; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 08:52:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from word.smith.net.au (castles360.castles.com [208.214.167.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA20893 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 08:52:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Received: from word.smith.net.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by word.smith.net.au (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA03640; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 08:57:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Message-Id: <199809251557.IAA03640@word.smith.net.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: John Fieber cc: Mike Smith , emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Running Sybase... In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 25 Sep 1998 08:33:05 CDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 08:57:49 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > On Thu, 24 Sep 1998, Mike Smith wrote: > > > 5. The client library has some problems recv, somehow associated > > > with failed hostname lookups...it is returning "invalid > > > argument". Maybe the same problem as #4? > > > > What are you linking the client library with? > > Nothing. The standard clients and admin tools report: > > Operating-system error: Invalid argument > DB-LIBRARY error: Unknown host machine name. > > I guessed it was common library code that was failing. Sounds like it; a ktrace/linux_kdump of these would be educational in order to find out where the EINVAL is being returned. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Fri Sep 25 09:08:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA23767 for freebsd-emulation-outgoing; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 09:08:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (fallout.campusview.indiana.edu [149.159.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA23744 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 09:08:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jfieber@fallout.campusview.indiana.edu) Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA04593; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 11:08:13 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 11:08:13 -0500 (EST) From: John Fieber To: Mike Smith cc: emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Running Sybase... In-Reply-To: <199809250653.XAA00781@word.smith.net.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 24 Sep 1998, Mike Smith wrote: > You're definitely using the standard kdump - getdomainname is syscall > 162, but under Linux that's nanosleep(), and what you're seeing there > looks about right for an idle applications. Ahh, things make much more sense now with linux_kdump! So now the question is which is easier: moving to 3.0 which has nanosleep() or moving nanosleep() to 2.2.7. Since the former will happen regardless, I'm thinking that will be the easier route...especially since I'm a novice at kernel hacking. -john To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Fri Sep 25 09:21:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA25147 for freebsd-emulation-outgoing; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 09:21:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from helmholtz.salk.edu (helmholtz.salk.edu [198.202.70.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA25142 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 09:21:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bartol@salk.edu) Received: from cole.salk.edu (cole [198.202.70.113]) by helmholtz.salk.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA26547; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 09:14:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 09:14:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Bartol To: Stuart Krivis cc: emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sybase/linux In-Reply-To: <199809251315.JAA18170@smok.apk.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 25 Sep 1998, Stuart Krivis wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: RIPEMD160 > > > > On 24 Sep 98, at 10:53, Marc Slemko wrote: > > > The license when you download from Caldera says: > > > > LICENSE & LICENSE RESTRICTIONS. You are allowed to install and use the > > Software for free as long as you operate the Software at all times only > > with the Linux operation system running natively on your hardware system. > > You may modify, translate or adapt the Software as long as you do not > > reverse engineer, decompile or disassemble it (except to the extent the > > laws in your jurisdiction specifically prohibit these restrictions). > > This raises the question: "What is the Linux Operating System?" > It also raises the question: "What does it mean to run native?" If running unmodified Linux i386 binaries and libraries on an i386 machine is not native then I don't know what is. Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Fri Sep 25 09:27:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA26230 for freebsd-emulation-outgoing; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 09:27:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (fallout.campusview.indiana.edu [149.159.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA26221 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 09:27:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jfieber@fallout.campusview.indiana.edu) Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA04618; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 11:27:28 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 11:27:28 -0500 (EST) From: John Fieber To: Mike Smith cc: emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Running Sybase... In-Reply-To: <199809251557.IAA03640@word.smith.net.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 25 Sep 1998, Mike Smith wrote: > > Nothing. The standard clients and admin tools report: > > > > Operating-system error: Invalid argument > > DB-LIBRARY error: Unknown host machine name. > > > > I guessed it was common library code that was failing. > > Sounds like it; a ktrace/linux_kdump of these would be educational in > order to find out where the EINVAL is being returned. This is what leads up to the call to write() the error message. This is from the isql utility attempting to connect to a known working server on another machine. The same error occurs connecting to the local (non-functioning) server either with the isql or the administration tool (sybinit). 4371 isql CALL linux_socketcall(0x3,0xefbfd2d0) 4371 isql RET linux_socketcall -1 errno -115 Unknown error: -115 4371 isql CALL ogetrlimit(0x7,0xefbfd18c) 4371 isql RET ogetrlimit 0 4371 isql CALL linux_newselect(0x40,0,0xefbfd1cc,0,0xefbfd1c4) 4371 isql RET linux_newselect 1 4371 isql CALL linux_socketcall(0x3,0xefbfd2d0) 4371 isql RET linux_socketcall -1 errno -106 Unknown error: -106 4371 isql CALL linux_fcntl(0x6,0x4,0x2) 4371 isql RET linux_fcntl 0 4371 isql CALL linux_socketcall(0xe,0xefbfd31c) 4371 isql RET linux_socketcall -1 errno -22 Unknown error: -22 4371 isql CALL linux_newuname(0xefbfcf80) 4371 isql RET linux_newuname 0 -john To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Fri Sep 25 09:57:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA00937 for freebsd-emulation-outgoing; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 09:57:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from word.smith.net.au (castles251.castles.com [208.214.165.251]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA00929 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 09:57:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Received: from word.smith.net.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by word.smith.net.au (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA03961; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 10:02:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Message-Id: <199809251702.KAA03961@word.smith.net.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Tom Bartol cc: Stuart Krivis , emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sybase/linux In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 25 Sep 1998 09:14:58 PDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 10:02:34 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > > > The license when you download from Caldera says: > > > > > > LICENSE & LICENSE RESTRICTIONS. You are allowed to install and use the > > > Software for free as long as you operate the Software at all times only > > > with the Linux operation system running natively on your hardware system. > > > You may modify, translate or adapt the Software as long as you do not > > > reverse engineer, decompile or disassemble it (except to the extent the > > > laws in your jurisdiction specifically prohibit these restrictions). > > > > This raises the question: "What is the Linux Operating System?" > > > > It also raises the question: "What does it mean to run native?" > > If running unmodified Linux i386 binaries and libraries on an i386 machine > is not native then I don't know what is. Unfortunately, this definition is too lose. What the license means specifically is : "You may not run this free version of Sybase on a system for which a more expensive version of Sybase exists". ie. SCO. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Fri Sep 25 10:14:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA03229 for freebsd-emulation-outgoing; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 10:14:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pobox.com ([208.141.230.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA03207 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 10:14:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alk@pobox.com) Received: (from alk@localhost) by pobox.com (8.9.1/8.7.3) id MAA02131; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 12:14:12 -0500 (CDT) From: Tony Kimball MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 12:14:11 -0500 (CDT) X-Face: O9M"E%K;(f-Go/XDxL+pCxI5*gr[=FN@Y`cl1.Tn Reply-To: alk@pobox.com To: emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sybase/linux References: <199809251315.JAA18170@smok.apk.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <13835.51525.682306.278290@compound.east> Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Quoth Tom Bartol on Fri, 25 September: : : On Fri, 25 Sep 1998, Stuart Krivis wrote: : : > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- : > Hash: RIPEMD160 : > : > : > : > On 24 Sep 98, at 10:53, Marc Slemko wrote: : > : > > The license when you download from Caldera says: : > > : > > LICENSE & LICENSE RESTRICTIONS. You are allowed to install and use the : > > Software for free as long as you operate the Software at all times only : > > with the Linux operation system running natively on your hardware system. : > > You may modify, translate or adapt the Software as long as you do not : > > reverse engineer, decompile or disassemble it (except to the extent the : > > laws in your jurisdiction specifically prohibit these restrictions). : > : > This raises the question: "What is the Linux Operating System?" : > : : It also raises the question: "What does it mean to run native?" : : If running unmodified Linux i386 binaries and libraries on an i386 machine : is not native then I don't know what is. One is permitted to modify, translate or adapt, so that for example running on Alpha hardware is okay. This would clearly not be running natively. I think it is most reasonable to interpret this to mean that the components of a Linux distribution (as ordinarily understood) which are required in order to execute the program must not be run by means of emulation. This excludes FreeBSD as an allowable platform. However, you may recall Richard Stallman's attempt to brand the free world with a GNU trademark. To his mind, Red Hat distributes GNU (Linux), while Walnut Creek distributes GNU (FreeBSD). Frankly, although he has the political aptitude of a hissing cockroach, I agree: A kernel is not an "operation system". It is entirely reasonable to understand "Linux operation system" as being the sequence of mental symbols by which a technically ignorant person has chosen to express the concept of an operating environment which utilizes the GNU toolset and is freely distributed in source form. There are two interesting aspects to such an interpretation: The issue of vulnerability to loss or damage by means of lawsuit eventuated by this interpretation, and the issue of conformance to law. As regards the second, this interpretation is certainly acceptable, as it causes no loss or damange to the license issuer, and intentionally accomodates the intent and purpose of the issuer. As regards the second, it is prima facie absurd to realistically consider that Sybase might initiate a suit against an individual who uses the software in question on FreeBSD rather than a kernel to which the good doctor Torvalds has made more direct and substantial contribution. (He has made *real* contributions to the FreeBSD kernel as to most others in active development in and out of the free world.) That said, I won't use it because it has no source code. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Fri Sep 25 11:52:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA19749 for freebsd-emulation-outgoing; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 11:52:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA19739 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 11:52:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA00615; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 11:56:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199809251856.LAA00615@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: John Fieber cc: Mike Smith , emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Running Sybase... In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 25 Sep 1998 11:27:28 CDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 11:56:23 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Sounds like it; a ktrace/linux_kdump of these would be educational in > > order to find out where the EINVAL is being returned. > > This is what leads up to the call to write() the error message. > This is from the isql utility attempting to connect to a known > working server on another machine. The same error occurs > connecting to the local (non-functioning) server either with the > isql or the administration tool (sybinit). > > 4371 isql CALL linux_socketcall(0x3,0xefbfd2d0) > 4371 isql RET linux_socketcall -1 errno -115 Unknown error: -115 > 4371 isql CALL ogetrlimit(0x7,0xefbfd18c) > 4371 isql RET ogetrlimit 0 > 4371 isql CALL linux_newselect(0x40,0,0xefbfd1cc,0,0xefbfd1c4) > 4371 isql RET linux_newselect 1 > 4371 isql CALL linux_socketcall(0x3,0xefbfd2d0) > 4371 isql RET linux_socketcall -1 errno -106 Unknown error: -106 > 4371 isql CALL linux_fcntl(0x6,0x4,0x2) > 4371 isql RET linux_fcntl 0 > 4371 isql CALL linux_socketcall(0xe,0xefbfd31c) > 4371 isql RET linux_socketcall -1 errno -22 Unknown error: -22 This is the first problem; Linux returns negative errno's (I should patch this in linux_kdump), so that's EINVAL as a response to an unknown socket request. You could add a debugging printf() to linux_socketcall() in linux_socket.c to print the value of (args->what) to work out which call is failing here. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Fri Sep 25 12:11:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA22802 for freebsd-emulation-outgoing; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 12:11:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA22793 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 12:11:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA00798; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 12:15:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199809251915.MAA00798@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: John Fieber cc: Mike Smith , emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Running Sybase... In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 25 Sep 1998 11:08:13 CDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 12:15:06 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > On Thu, 24 Sep 1998, Mike Smith wrote: > > > You're definitely using the standard kdump - getdomainname is syscall > > 162, but under Linux that's nanosleep(), and what you're seeing there > > looks about right for an idle applications. > > Ahh, things make much more sense now with linux_kdump! 8) > So now the question is which is easier: moving to 3.0 which has > nanosleep() or moving nanosleep() to 2.2.7. Since the former > will happen regardless, I'm thinking that will be the easier > route...especially since I'm a novice at kernel hacking. Feh. The kernel's just a big program with a bad C library. Still, take your pick. At the very least, I'd really like to see the ioctl changes you made get committed. 8) -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Fri Sep 25 14:47:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA18041 for freebsd-emulation-outgoing; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 14:47:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from relay2.impsat1.com (relay2.impsat1.com [200.31.1.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA18027 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 14:46:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nestorm@impsat1.com.ar) Received: from nes (rrosd59.impsat.net.ar [200.32.116.124]) by relay2.impsat1.com (8.8.5/8.8.4) with ESMTP id SAA07949 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 18:45:03 +0300 (GMT) Message-Id: <199809251545.SAA07949@relay2.impsat1.com> From: "NESTOR A. MARTINEZ" To: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?emulaci=F3n_Freebsd?=" Subject: Re: sybase/oracle Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 18:44:01 -0300 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1162 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Where could i get (download) a copy of Sybase and/or Oracle for evaluation? Thanks in advance. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Fri Sep 25 15:35:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA27643 for freebsd-emulation-outgoing; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 15:35:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA27619 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 15:35:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA01918; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 15:39:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199809252239.PAA01918@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "NESTOR A. MARTINEZ" cc: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?emulaci=F3n_Freebsd?=" Subject: Re: sybase/oracle In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 25 Sep 1998 18:44:01 -0300." <199809251545.SAA07949@relay2.impsat1.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 15:39:47 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Where could i get (download) a copy of Sybase and/or Oracle for evaluation? > > Thanks in advance. Sybase for Linux is available from www.caldera.com and www.redhat.com. Oracle for Linux is available by registering with Oracle at www.oracle.com. They may not send you a copy, as you're not in the USA. You can't download Oracle (it's a bit on the too big side). -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message