From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Sep 27 07:45:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA06139 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 07:45:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from haldjas.folklore.ee (Haldjas.folklore.ee [193.40.6.121]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA06132 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 07:45:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from narvi@haldjas.folklore.ee) Received: from haldjas.folklore.ee (haldjas.folklore.ee [172.17.2.1] (may be forged)) by haldjas.folklore.ee (8.8.8/8.8.4) with SMTP id RAA09387; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 17:44:45 +0300 (EEST) Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 17:44:45 +0300 (EEST) From: Narvi To: Studded cc: The Subject: Re: COMPAT_43 In-Reply-To: <360D4E83.8B656BC9@dal.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 26 Sep 1998, Studded wrote: > I'm curious as to whether/how much the COMPAT_43 option is still needed > in a modern system. Before someone says, "Why don't you take it out and > find out for yourself?" I would be glad to do that and report the > results (after the release of course) if someone could state with > reasonable assurance that most things would still work. :) > xterm AFAIK used to be one that needed it. It has probably been corrected since. > Thanks, > > Doug Sander There is no love, no good, no happiness and no future - all these are just illusions. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Sep 27 08:32:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA09173 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 08:32:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cs.rpi.edu (mumble.cs.rpi.edu [128.213.8.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA09168 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 08:32:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from crossd@mumble.cs.rpi.edu) Received: from loot.cs.rpi.edu (crossd@loot.cs.rpi.edu [128.213.16.22]) by cs.rpi.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA01007; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 11:32:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (crossd@localhost) by loot.cs.rpi.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA25057; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 11:26:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: loot.cs.rpi.edu: crossd owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 11:26:15 -0400 (EDT) From: "David E. Cross" To: Narvi cc: Studded , The Subject: Re: COMPAT_43 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > xterm AFAIK used to be one that needed it. It has probably been corrected > since. > what if you built X from source? (Anyway I am going to try and see how it works.) -- David Cross To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Sep 27 08:33:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA09215 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 08:33:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from home.shvetc.zp.ua (shvetc-bayda.marka.net.ua [193.193.219.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA09202; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 08:33:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eugene@shvetc.zp.ua) Received: from wints (wints.shvetc.zp.ua [193.193.219.186]) by home.shvetc.zp.ua (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id SAA22707; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 18:32:47 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <003d01bdea2c$15af1be0$badbc1c1@wints.shvetc.zp.ua> From: "Eugene Shvetc" To: , , Subject: Re: traffic counter Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 18:32:46 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0036_01BDEA45.38BA0500" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0036_01BDEA45.38BA0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks you all, but i need to count via snmp, or from mrtg log files. ------=_NextPart_000_0036_01BDEA45.38BA0500 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Re: traffic counter Content-Disposition: attachment Return-Path: jkb@best.com Received: from shell6.ba.best.com (jkb@shell6.ba.best.com [206.184.139.137]) by home.shvetc.zp.ua (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA12328 for ; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 22:14:14 +0300 (EEST) Received: from localhost (jkb@localhost) by shell6.ba.best.com (8.9.0/8.9.0/best.sh) with SMTP id MAA09204 for ; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 12:14:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: shell6.ba.best.com: jkb owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 12:14:02 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jan B. Koum " X-Sender: jkb@shell6.ba.best.com To: Eugene Shvetc Subject: Re: traffic counter In-Reply-To: <000101bde96a$67356680$badbc1c1@wints.shvetc.zp.ua> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-UIDL: e8dad7108778c90c365b0e3b3d0529cc man ipfw -- Yan I don't have the password .... + Jan Koum But the path is chainlinked .. | Spelled Jan, pronounced Yan. There. So if you've got the time .... | Web: http://www.best.com/~jkb Set the tone to sync ......... + OS: http://www.FreeBSD.org On Sat, 26 Sep 1998, Eugene Shvetc wrote: > > Hi! > >There is a task: to write programm, which daily counts up >amount byte, transferred through interface. It is necessary, >what it took information from mrtg log files, or itself took >statistics using snmp. Nobody was engaged in such? And that >completely is no time to write itself :-( > >Beforehand is grateful. > >--- >Eugene Shvetc >MARKA ISP >eugene@shvetc.zp.ua >Tel, fax: +380 612 120186 > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > ------=_NextPart_000_0036_01BDEA45.38BA0500 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Re: traffic counter Content-Disposition: attachment Return-Path: andrew@squiz.co.nz Received: from aniwa.sky (pppk-02.igrin.co.nz [202.49.245.81]) by home.shvetc.zp.ua (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA13684 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 00:51:20 +0300 (EEST) Received: from localhost (andrew@localhost) by aniwa.sky (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA00447 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 09:50:23 +1200 (NZST) (envelope-from andrew@squiz.co.nz) Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 09:49:01 +1200 (NZST) From: Andrew McNaughton X-Sender: andrew@aniwa.sky Reply-To: andrew@squiz.co.nz To: Eugene Shvetc Subject: Re: traffic counter In-Reply-To: <000101bde96a$67356680$badbc1c1@wints.shvetc.zp.ua> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-UIDL: eb7c552242f196bbfc55fb56f0e2a046 On Sat, 26 Sep 1998, Eugene Shvetc wrote: > Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 19:26:21 +0300 > From: Eugene Shvetc > To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: traffic counter > > > Hi! > > There is a task: to write programm, which daily counts up > amount byte, transferred through interface. It is necessary, > what it took information from mrtg log files, or itself took > statistics using snmp. Nobody was engaged in such? And that > completely is no time to write itself :-( > > Beforehand is grateful. use netstat or ipfw ------=_NextPart_000_0036_01BDEA45.38BA0500 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Re: traffic counter Content-Disposition: attachment Return-Path: dchapes@ddm.on.ca Received: from ymris.ddm.on.ca (p17a.neon.sentex.ca [207.245.212.210]) by home.shvetc.zp.ua (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA22174 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 17:32:10 +0300 (EEST) Received: from squigy.ddm.on.ca (squigy.ddm.on.ca [209.112.59.10]) by ymris.ddm.on.ca (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA12856 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 10:31:08 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dchapes@ymris.ddm.on.ca) From: Dave Chapeskie Received: (from dchapes@localhost) by squigy.ddm.on.ca (8.8.8/8.8.7) id KAA01287; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 10:31:06 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19980927103106.04062@ddm.on.ca> Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 10:31:06 -0400 To: Eugene Shvetc Subject: Re: traffic counter References: <000101bde96a$67356680$badbc1c1@wints.shvetc.zp.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <000101bde96a$67356680$badbc1c1@wints.shvetc.zp.ua>; from Eugene Shvetc on Sat, Sep 26, 1998 at 07:26:21PM +0300 Return-Receipt-To: dchapes@ddm.on.ca X-UIDL: 8873d7d900322989cc2306acf5838e13 On Sat, Sep 26, 1998 at 07:26:21PM +0300, Eugene Shvetc wrote: > There is a task: to write programm, which daily counts up > amount byte, transferred through interface. It is necessary, > what it took information from mrtg log files, or itself took > statistics using snmp. Nobody was engaged in such? And that > completely is no time to write itself :-( > > Beforehand is grateful. You need to learn how to write scripts, this isn't a question for hacker-freebsd-hackers. Just run something like this from /etc/daily.local. If you wanted to get fancy you could have a perl script that extracted the 'Ibytes' and 'Obytes' fields and subtracted yesturday's values from today's (if /kern/bootime says we haven't been rebooted since the timestamp on yesturday's values). #!/bin/sh if [ -f /var/log/netstat.today ]; then mv -f /var/log/netstat.today /var/log/netstat.yesturday fi netstat -ib > /var/log/netstat.today diff -uN /var/log/netstat.{yesturday,today} -- Dave Chapeskie, DDM Consulting ------=_NextPart_000_0036_01BDEA45.38BA0500 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Re: traffic counter Content-Disposition: attachment Return-Path: justin@mascarpone.coventry.ac.uk Received: from coventry.ac.uk (mercury.coventry.ac.uk [193.61.107.16]) by home.shvetc.zp.ua (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA22532 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 18:13:45 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mascarpone.coventry.ac.uk (mascarpone.coventry.ac.uk [194.66.38.77]) by coventry.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.6.11) with SMTP id QAA08548 for <@mercury.coventry.ac.uk:eugene@shvetc.zp.ua>; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 16:13:34 +0100 (BST) Received: (from justin@localhost) by mascarpone.coventry.ac.uk (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id QAA01161; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 16:13:07 +0100 Message-Id: <199809271513.QAA01161@mascarpone.coventry.ac.uk> Date: Sun, 27 Sep 98 16:13 +0100 From: Justin Murdock Subject: Re: traffic counter To: "Eugene Shvetc" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: Eugene Shvetc's mail of Sat, 26 Sep 98 19:26 +0300 X-Mailer: Af v1.98.4 X-UIDL: d2a15b313f5fdf164bfd2e6d36172a1d > Hi! > > There is a task: to write programm, which daily counts up > amount byte, transferred through interface. It is necessary, > what it took information from mrtg log files, or itself took > statistics using snmp. Nobody was engaged in such? And that > completely is no time to write itself :-( > Beforehand is grateful. netstat -w 86400 might do what you want. ------=_NextPart_000_0036_01BDEA45.38BA0500-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Sep 27 11:07:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA22733 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 11:07:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from earth.mat.net (earth.mat.net [206.246.122.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA22722 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 11:07:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chuckr@mat.net) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost) by earth.mat.net (8.8.8/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA29845 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 14:07:08 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 14:07:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey To: FreeBSD-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: getty problems Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is about a strange problem I'm seeing, about getting a getty started on a machine. This machine was doing gettys just fine a couple of days ago, before there was an attack on the system (denial of service, but apparently some other stuff too?) This machine in the one I was getting my ppp through so I'm concerned. I was the only user getting ppp from it yet. Everything works ok except that the gettys don't show up anymore. There's a lot of possibilities for this, so please don't answer until you've seen all the stuff I *have already* checked, ok? Here they are: 1) Do I have /etc/ttys right? Here's the portion involved (I'm on ttyd1): # Serial terminals ttyd0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" vt100 off secure ttyd1 "/usr/libexec/getty std.57600" vt100 on secure This hasn't been changed. The machine has gone thru a reboot, but I did a "kill -HUP 1" to make certain this /etc/ttys was the active one, and immediately checked ps, no gettys. 2) permissions in /dev: moon:/usr/home/chuckr:18 >ls -l /dev/ttyd* crw------- 1 root wheel 28, 0 Jul 9 13:00 /dev/ttyd0 crw------- 1 root wheel 28, 1 Sep 26 23:07 /dev/ttyd1 crw------- 1 root wheel 28, 2 Aug 27 1997 /dev/ttyd2 crw------- 1 root wheel 28, 3 Jul 30 1996 /dev/ttyd3 3) binaries, I used md5 to check the values for md5, init, getty, and login, all ok (ps too). I have another machine running the same version of current from last summer, so I could do this. Also checked the /kernel, it's good too. 4) syslog.conf wasn't routing getty error messages to /var/log/messages, it was routing them to the console, which hasn't had a video attached for months. Fixed it, tested it, rehupped init to restart any dead gettys, still nothing from ps on any gettys, and nothing in /var/log on gettys either. 5) Just in case it was the port, used kermit, port is fine, modem is fine also. Swapped modem & cable anyway (it was easy to do), no fix there. 6) filesystems all ok, all capacities ok. sysctl kern.securelevel is -1. 7) In spite of good md5, maybe BOTH gettys are bad? Ran one from root in an xterm, it _seemed_ to work just fine. When it was running, but before a password had entered, ps found it just fine, too. It called login (it looked like I'd called telnet, not getty!) I *think* that's all I tried. If you can come up with any other possibilities I can't think of, please write to me about it, ok? Thanks! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Sep 27 11:32:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA25180 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 11:32:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from haldjas.folklore.ee (Haldjas.folklore.ee [193.40.6.121]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA25172 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 11:32:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from narvi@haldjas.folklore.ee) Received: from haldjas.folklore.ee (haldjas.folklore.ee [172.17.2.1] (may be forged)) by haldjas.folklore.ee (8.8.8/8.8.4) with SMTP id VAA12262; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 21:31:56 +0300 (EEST) Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 21:31:55 +0300 (EEST) From: Narvi To: "David E. Cross" cc: Studded , The Subject: Re: COMPAT_43 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 27 Sep 1998, David E. Cross wrote: > > > > xterm AFAIK used to be one that needed it. It has probably been corrected > > since. > > > what if you built X from source? > I doubt it matters. If it uses "legacy" 4.3 interfaces, it will only run on a kernel which was compiled with COMPAT_43. Like if it needs /usr/include/sys/ioctl_compat.h or uses (I think) the creat syscall or the like. > (Anyway I am going to try and see how it works.) > It can very well be that that xterm has since been modified to not need it. I haven't tried and there certainly was time when COMPAT_43 was needed for it (in 2.1 timeframe). > -- > David Cross > > Sander There is no love, no good, no happiness and no future - all these are just illusions. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Sep 27 13:30:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA10761 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 13:30:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sockratte.schell.de (polz.de [195.20.238.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA10756 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 13:30:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sas@schell.de) Received: from guerilla.foo.bar (hennen32s.iserlohn.netsurf.de [194.195.194.226]) by sockratte.schell.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA18317 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 22:29:56 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost.foo.bar [127.0.0.1]) by guerilla.foo.bar (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id WAA02668 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 22:29:44 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 22:29:35 +0200 (CEST) From: Sascha Schumann X-Sender: sas@guerilla.foo.bar To: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: CDIOREADTOCENTRY Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi peers, I've got a problem getting CDIOREADTOCENTRY to work properly with a Toshiba on -current (last cvsup two days ago). The attached program outputs for every CDIOREADTOCENTRY a EINVAL meaning that a) address_format is incorrect (!CD_MSF_FORMAT && !CD_LBA_FORMAT) or b) track is illegal, if it is set from the caller. There doesn't seem to be an obvious error in my program nor in wcd.c. Has anyone already encountered such a behaviour? Sascha ----------------------------- #include #include #include #include #include #include main() { int fd; int i; char *drive = "/dev/wcd0a"; struct ioc_read_toc_single_entry tec; struct ioc_read_toc_entry tex; struct ioc_toc_header th; fd = open(drive, O_RDWR); if(fd == -1) { perror("open"); exit(1); } if(ioctl(fd, CDIOREADTOCHEADER, &th)) { perror("cdioreadtocheader"); exit(1); } tex.data_len = (th.ending_track - th.starting_track + 1) * sizeof(struct cd_toc_entry); tex.data = malloc(tex.data_len); tex.starting_track = 1; tex.address_format = CD_LBA_FORMAT; if(ioctl(fd, CDIOREADTOCENTRYS, &tex) < 0) { perror("cdioreadtocentrys"); } for(i = th.starting_track; i <= th.ending_track; i++) { memset(&tec, 0, sizeof(tec)); tec.track = i; /* also doesn't work, if track = 0 */ tec.address_format = CD_LBA_FORMAT; if(ioctl(fd, CDIOREADTOCENTRY, &tec) < 0) perror("cdioreadtocentry"); else printf("addr: %d \n", ntohl(tec.entry.addr.lba)); printf("%d\n", ntohl(tex.data[i].addr.lba)); } close(fd); } To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Sep 27 14:20:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA18119 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 14:20:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from picnic.mat.net (picnic.mat.net [206.246.122.117]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA18050 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 14:20:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chuckr@mat.net) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost) by picnic.mat.net (8.9.1/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA13516 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 17:16:58 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 17:16:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey To: FreeBSD-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: getty problems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 27 Sep 1998, Chuck Robey wrote: > This is about a strange problem I'm seeing, about getting a getty > started on a machine. This machine was doing gettys just fine a > couple of days ago, before there was an attack on the system > (denial of service, but apparently some other stuff too?) > > This machine in the one I was getting my ppp through so I'm > concerned. I was the only user getting ppp from it yet. > Everything works ok except that the gettys don't show up anymore. > > There's a lot of possibilities for this, so please don't answer > until you've seen all the stuff I *have already* checked, ok? > Here they are: This is a followup to my own post. Found the problem, there had been a change made to rc.conf, which malperformed, and made it so rc didn't complete, hence init never started up the gettys. New one on me, won't quickly forget this error! rc HAS to finish! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@glue.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and picnic (FreeBSD-current) (301) 220-2114 | and jaunt (NetBSD). ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Sep 27 14:52:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA23983 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 14:52:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.netian.com ([203.246.180.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA23907 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 14:51:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mindmap@netian.com) Received: from [203.246.180.61] (www1.netian.com [203.246.180.61]) by mail.netian.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA25116 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 06:49:38 +0900 (KST) Message-Id: <199809272149.GAA25116@mail.netian.com> Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 06:49:12 +0900 (GMT) From: kim dong chun To: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: NETIAN Web Mailer 1.02 Organization: =?ISO-8859-1?B?vP69x7TrIMD8wNqw6Lvqv/g=?= X-BBS-Content: netian;mindmap;Sent;7; MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/alternative; BOUNDARY="-559023410-851401618-906932952=:25547" Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ---559023410-851401618-906932952=:25547 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Hello! 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---559023410-851401618-906932952=:25547-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Sep 27 15:44:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA03013 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 15:44:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns1.yes.no (ns1.yes.no [195.119.24.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA02944 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 15:43:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eivind@bitbox.follo.net) Received: from bitbox.follo.net (bitbox.follo.net [195.204.143.218]) by ns1.yes.no (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA08882; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 00:43:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from eivind@localhost) by bitbox.follo.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) id AAA21319; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 00:43:26 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19980928004325.25164@follo.net> Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 00:43:25 +0200 From: Eivind Eklund To: kim dong chun , freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: your mail References: <199809272149.GAA25116@mail.netian.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: <199809272149.GAA25116@mail.netian.com>; from kim dong chun on Mon, Sep 28, 1998 at 06:49:12AM +0900 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Sep 28, 1998 at 06:49:12AM +0900, kim dong chun wrote: > Hello! > > My name is dong chun kim. > > I want crack file that is mp3play.ocx > > Help me... ! > > Can You? Yes. Here is pseudo-code for how to do this: filesize = (Get the size of the file) bufferA = malloc(filesize); BufferB = malloc(filesize); read-your-file-into-bufferA rnd = fopen("/dev/random", "r"); /* Optimize for the case where bufferA already contain good data - a do-while would be a few cycles faster on average, but not for the simple case */ memcpy(bufferB, bufferA, filesize); while (bufferB does not contain a program doing what you want) { memcpy(bufferB, bufferA, filesize); for (i=0; i Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA05450 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 15:56:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Loki.orland.u91.k12.me.us (Loki.orland.u91.k12.me.us [169.244.111.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA05331 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 15:56:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from netmonger@genesis.ispace.com) Received: from Celeris (56k-port4004.ime.net [209.90.195.14]) by Loki.orland.u91.k12.me.us (8.9.1/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA22825; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 18:55:20 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from netmonger@genesis.ispace.com) X-Server-Comment: Sent via OCSNet/Orland, Admin is: Droobie@Onenetwork.orland.me.us Message-Id: <4.1.0.67.19980927185240.00a2c510@genesis.ispace.com> X-Sender: netmonger@genesis.ispace.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1.0.67 (Beta) Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 18:53:42 -0400 To: kim dong chun , freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG From: Drew Baxter Subject: Re: In-Reply-To: <199809272149.GAA25116@mail.netian.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG And I recommend a quick direction to WWW.WhatThe.....com.. This isn't Win95-Lamers-L.. At 06:49 AM 9/28/98 +0900, kim dong chun wrote: >Hello! > >My name is dong chun kim. > >I want crack file that is mp3play.ocx > >Help me... ! > >Can You? > >Answer E-mail : mindmap@netian.com > > > > > --- Drew "Droobie" Baxter Network Admin/Professional Computer Nerd(TM) OneEX: The OneNetwork Exchange 207-942-0275 http://www.droo.orland.me.us To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Sep 27 17:54:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA20780 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 17:54:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp01.primenet.com (smtp01.primenet.com [206.165.6.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA20771 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 17:54:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert@usr05.primenet.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp01.primenet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA27180; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 17:53:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr05.primenet.com(206.165.6.205) via SMTP by smtp01.primenet.com, id smtpd027165; Sun Sep 27 17:53:52 1998 Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr05.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA07815; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 17:53:50 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199809280053.RAA07815@usr05.primenet.com> Subject: Re: Question on vnode's type To: bf20761@binghamton.edu (zhihuizhang) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 00:53:50 +0000 (GMT) Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "zhihuizhang" at Sep 26, 98 11:43:45 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > There are nine types of vnodes available: VNON, VREG, VDIR, VBLK, VCHR, > VLNK, VSOCK, VFIFO, VBAD. Can anyone describe for me their usages? > > Any help is appreciated. VNON No type VREG A regular file VDIR A directory VBLK A block special device VCHR A character special device VLNK A symbolic link VSOCK A socket VFIFO A FIFO (named pipe) VBAD An old style bad sector map It is also useful to know: VFIFO uses the "struct fileops" from /sys/kern/sys_pipe.c VSOCK uses the "struct fileops" from /sys/kern/sys_socket.c(*) Everything else uses the one from /sys/kern/vfs_vnops.c (*) The System V IPC calls are implemented using the POSIX domain sockets. In general, the VFIFO/VSOCK code, which is why "struct fileops" is used at all, is an artifact of an incomplete integration of the VFS code into the kernel. In general, the problems associated with this are: (1) You can't use advisory locking on VFIFO/VSOCK vnodes. (2) You must take extra indirection overhead on all read, write, ioctl, poll, and close calls. (3) No other normal vnode operations are permitted, except as they are special cased (e.g., an fcntl(2) call to F_SETOWN/F_GETOWN won't work on a DTYPE_PIPE/DTYPE_FIFO, but will work on a DTYPE_VNODE/DTYPE_SOCKET). (4) It offends people who have aesthetic sensibilities. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Sep 27 23:20:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA08345 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 23:20:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from beatrice.rutgers.edu (beatrice.rutgers.edu [165.230.209.143]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA08331; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 23:20:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from easmith@beatrice.rutgers.edu) Received: (from easmith@localhost) by beatrice.rutgers.edu (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id CAA06406; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 02:20:34 -0400 (EDT) From: "Allen Smith" Message-Id: <9809280220.ZM6404@beatrice.rutgers.edu> Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 02:20:33 -0400 In-Reply-To: Terry Lambert "Re: Booting from NT ?" (Sep 26, 6:43pm) References: <199809262242.PAA24523@usr04.primenet.com> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.3 08feb96 MediaMail) To: Terry Lambert Subject: Re: Booting from NT ? Cc: security@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sep 26, 6:43pm, Terry Lambert (possibly) wrote: > The minimal modification is an MFS /var, mounted early, and a symlink > from /tmp -> /var/tmp, yes. > > Having a DEVFS (with SLICE) also helps... one less thing to deal > with not being R/O. Question... what does happen if one has a R/O root filesystem, including /dev, without DEVFS? I'm constructing a firewall computer with a (switchable - a nice facility of some Seagate drives) hard drive for root, a second writeable drive for /var and swap, and a /tmp MFS. What problems am I likely to run into with /dev? I'd really prefer not to have it as a symlink to /var/dev or some such... -Allen -- Allen Smith easmith@beatrice.rutgers.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Sep 28 00:04:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA13780 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 00:04:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA13771; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 00:04:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id GAA03233; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 06:02:48 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199809280502.GAA03233@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: Booting from NT ? To: easmith@beatrice.rutgers.edu (Allen Smith) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 06:02:47 +0100 (MET) Cc: tlambert@primenet.com, security@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <9809280220.ZM6404@beatrice.rutgers.edu> from "Allen Smith" at Sep 28, 98 02:20:14 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Question... what does happen if one has a R/O root filesystem, > including /dev, without DEVFS? I'm constructing a firewall computer > with a (switchable - a nice facility of some Seagate drives) hard > drive for root, a second writeable drive for /var and swap, and a /tmp > MFS. What problems am I likely to run into with /dev? I'd really > prefer not to have it as a symlink to /var/dev or some such... not sure. i generally put /dev /var/dev and repopulate /var at boot from a tgz file. It is much more convenient, because you can then create new device entries if needed. luigi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Sep 28 01:41:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA29188 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 01:41:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gatekeeper.tsc.tdk.com (gatekeeper.tsc.tdk.com [207.113.159.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA29178; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 01:41:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gdonl@tsc.tdk.com) Received: from sunrise.gv.tsc.tdk.com (root@sunrise.gv.tsc.tdk.com [192.168.241.191]) by gatekeeper.tsc.tdk.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA05970; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 01:41:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gdonl@tsc.tdk.com) Received: from salsa.gv.tsc.tdk.com (salsa.gv.tsc.tdk.com [192.168.241.194]) by sunrise.gv.tsc.tdk.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA01147; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 01:41:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gdonl@localhost) by salsa.gv.tsc.tdk.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA03201; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 01:40:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Lewis Message-Id: <199809280840.BAA03201@salsa.gv.tsc.tdk.com> Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 01:40:58 -0700 In-Reply-To: "Allen Smith" "Re: Booting from NT ?" (Sep 28, 2:20am) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.6 alpha(3) 7/19/95) To: "Allen Smith" Subject: Re: Booting from NT ? Cc: security@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sep 28, 2:20am, "Allen Smith" wrote: } Subject: Re: Booting from NT ? } Question... what does happen if one has a R/O root filesystem, } including /dev, without DEVFS? I'm constructing a firewall computer } with a (switchable - a nice facility of some Seagate drives) hard } drive for root, a second writeable drive for /var and swap, and a /tmp } MFS. What problems am I likely to run into with /dev? I'd really } prefer not to have it as a symlink to /var/dev or some such... You won't be able to chown() and chmod() the tty devices when you log in. Before /dev/log was made a symlink to /var/run/log, syslogd wouldn't be able to create /dev/log. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Sep 28 02:53:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA10076 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 02:53:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from citadel.cdsec.com (citadel.cdsec.com [192.96.22.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA09902 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 02:52:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gram@cdsec.com) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by citadel.cdsec.com (8.8.8/8.6.9) id LAA05390; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 11:58:51 +0200 (SAST) Received: by citadel via recvmail id 5388; Mon Sep 28 11:58:42 1998 From: Graham Wheeler Message-Id: <199809280957.LAA11960@cdsec.com> Subject: Re: The inetd realloc problem: an observation To: grog@lemis.com (Greg Lehey) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 11:57:50 +0200 (SAT) Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19980928132438.N25391@freebie.lemis.com> from "Greg Lehey" at Sep 28, 98 01:24:38 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25-h4.1] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Tuesday, 22 September 1998 at 15:27:49 +0200, Graham Wheeler wrote: > >> > >> On Sep 22, 1:44pm, Greg Lehey wrote: > >>> Subject: The inetd realloc problem: an observation > >>> I trust that everybody knows what I mean by the "inetd realloc" > >>> problem: after some undefined event inetd behaves in an unfriendly > >>> manner towards incoming requests, possibly confusing the clients > >>> enough to make them turn away in disgust. > >> > >> I'm can't say I'm suprised after looking at the code, which does all sorts > >> of dangerous things like malloc() from within signal handlers. There are > >> some things it is safe to do within a signal handler, but most things aren't. > >> Probably the best thing to do is to rewrite the code so that the signal > >> handlers just set a flag (of type sig_atomic_t), which gets checked in > >> the mainline code where it is safe to to the complicated stuff. > > > > I've just changed the source so that all three signal handlers just set > > flags, and the flags are tested at the start of the main processing loop > > and the old handlers called if necessary. It will be interesting to see > > if this improves things. > > Any experience yet? So far it seems to be working fine. My approach was not as sophisticated as the one suggested by others (writing values into a pipe). I just changed each handler to set a volatile int variable, modified the main select() to use a 60 second timeout, and before the select, did a: while (any signal handler flag set) { if (sigchld_flag) { sigchld_flag = 0; do_old_sigchld_handler(); } ... } It may be possible that this is vulnerable to race conditions, but thus far it has been working fine. Perhaps it would be better to increment/decrement the flags, rather than set/clear them...? -- Dr Graham Wheeler E-mail: gram@cdsec.com Citadel Data Security Phone: +27(21)23-6065/6/7 Internet/Intranet Network Specialists Mobile: +27(83)253-9864 Firewalls/Virtual Private Networks Fax: +27(21)24-3656 Data Security Products WWW: http://www.cdsec.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Sep 28 06:11:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA06249 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 06:11:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from www.hitti.com ([202.96.211.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA06243 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 06:11:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from paulk@hitti.com) From: paulk@hitti.com Received: from mi.hitti.com (mi.hitti.com [192.168.1.10]) by www.hitti.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA11419 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 21:08:21 +0800 (CST) (envelope-from paulk@hitti.com) Received: by mi.hitti.com(Lotus SMTP MTA SMTP v4.6 (462.2 9-3-1997)) id 4825668D.004824E3 ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 21:08:00 +0800 X-Lotus-FromDomain: ITEC To: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <4825668D.0047EABA.00@mi.hitti.com> Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 21:07:57 +0800 Subject: Chinese Code File Name Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG How can i named a file with Simple Chinese Name: such as \0xD4\0xC2 in FreeBSD? Thanks & Regards -Paul To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Sep 28 09:19:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA03902 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 09:19:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp1.xs4all.nl (smtp1.xs4all.nl [194.109.6.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA03893 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 09:18:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stephw@xs4all.nl) Received: from xs3.xs4all.nl (stephw@xs3.xs4all.nl [194.109.6.44]) by smtp1.xs4all.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA04596 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 18:18:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from stephw@localhost) by xs3.xs4all.nl (8.9.0/8.9.0) id SAA07919; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 18:18:42 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 18:18:42 +0200 (CEST) From: Stephanie Wehner Message-Id: <199809281618.SAA07919@xs3.xs4all.nl> To: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: IPsec for ipv4 X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd.hackers In-Reply-To: User-Agent: tin/pre-1.4-980514 (UNIX) (BSD/OS/4.0 (i386)) Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG : Did just fine until I got to tools/complete/photurisd/kernel.c. No : declarations for IP_SEC_LEVEL_BYPASS, IP_AUTH_LEVEL, IP_ESP_TRANS_LEVEL or : IP_ESP_NETWORK_LEVEL. Same thing in openbsd source. Are these just not : important? Look into netinet/in.h bye, Stephanie ----------------------------<> _@r4k.net <>-----------------<> FreeBSD <>--- "I had to hit him -- he was starting to make sense." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Sep 28 10:00:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA12064 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 10:00:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from yonge.cs.toronto.edu (yonge.cs.toronto.edu [128.100.2.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA11998 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 10:00:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dholland@cs.toronto.edu) Received: from qew.cs.toronto.edu ([128.100.2.15]) by yonge.cs.toronto.edu with SMTP id <86577-25407>; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 12:59:49 -0400 Received: by qew.cs.toronto.edu id <37768-5346>; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 12:59:21 -0400 Subject: Re: Quick code style question. From: David Holland To: cracauer@cons.org (Martin Cracauer) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 12:59:19 -0400 Cc: nialls@euristix.ie, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19980923141618.A21991@cons.org> from "Martin Cracauer" at Sep 23, 98 08:16:18 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <98Sep28.125921edt.37768-5346@qew.cs.toronto.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Surely it would be much better if these were either protected by a > > _NETDB_INTERNAL_ macro or moved into a separate header in lib/libc/net. > > Which of these two is preferable? > > Not speaking for the FreeBSD project and not commenting on your > getservent() changes, I think the macros would do. Likewise, but I'd say make a private header file. Private interfaces should not be publically available. Otherwise next year someone who wants to change the interface will discover some bonehead application #defining __NETDB_INTERNAL__. > On the technical side, the macro solution is also better because it > easily supports more than two levels of visibility and it is easy to > raise or lower the level of visibilty from inside another header > file or on the compiler command line. This, in my view, is the chief reason not to do it. :-) -- - David A. Holland | (please continue to send non-list mail to dholland@cs.utoronto.ca | dholland@hcs.harvard.edu. yes, I moved.) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Sep 28 10:26:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA17263 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 10:26:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp3.xs4all.nl (smtp3.xs4all.nl [194.109.6.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA17248 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 10:26:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stephw@xs4all.nl) Received: from xs3.xs4all.nl (stephw@xs3.xs4all.nl [194.109.6.44]) by smtp3.xs4all.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA04538 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 19:26:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from stephw@localhost) by xs3.xs4all.nl (8.9.0/8.9.0) id TAA15529 for freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 19:26:24 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <19980928192624.B15451@xs3.xs4all.nl> Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 19:26:24 +0200 From: Stephanie Wehner To: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: IPsec for 3.0beta Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, There's now also a version for 3.0-19980925-BETA. You can get it from ftp.r4k.net/pub/ipsec/ Please report any bugs etc, hope I didn't forget anything in the package either :) bye, @rak ----------------------------<> _@r4k.net <>-----------------<> FreeBSD <>--- "I had to hit him -- he was starting to make sense." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Sep 28 14:48:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA03006 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 14:48:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp03.primenet.com (smtp03.primenet.com [206.165.6.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA02990; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 14:48:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert@usr04.primenet.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp03.primenet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA27768; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 14:47:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr04.primenet.com(206.165.6.204) via SMTP by smtp03.primenet.com, id smtpd027678; Mon Sep 28 14:47:49 1998 Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr04.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA07076; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 14:47:44 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199809282147.OAA07076@usr04.primenet.com> Subject: Re: Booting from NT ? To: easmith@beatrice.rutgers.edu (Allen Smith) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 21:47:44 +0000 (GMT) Cc: tlambert@primenet.com, security@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <9809280220.ZM6404@beatrice.rutgers.edu> from "Allen Smith" at Sep 28, 98 02:20:33 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > The minimal modification is an MFS /var, mounted early, and a symlink > > from /tmp -> /var/tmp, yes. > > > > Having a DEVFS (with SLICE) also helps... one less thing to deal > > with not being R/O. > > Question... what does happen if one has a R/O root filesystem, > including /dev, without DEVFS? I'm constructing a firewall computer > with a (switchable - a nice facility of some Seagate drives) hard > drive for root, a second writeable drive for /var and swap, and a /tmp > MFS. What problems am I likely to run into with /dev? I'd really > prefer not to have it as a symlink to /var/dev or some such... It works. For a bastion host, there's really no reason to have it writeable anyway... Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Sep 28 14:57:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA03942 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 14:57:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp01.primenet.com (smtp01.primenet.com [206.165.6.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA03923 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 14:56:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert@usr04.primenet.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp01.primenet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA26469; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 14:56:36 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr04.primenet.com(206.165.6.204) via SMTP by smtp01.primenet.com, id smtpd026373; Mon Sep 28 14:56:27 1998 Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr04.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA07483; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 14:56:22 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199809282156.OAA07483@usr04.primenet.com> Subject: Re: The inetd realloc problem: an observation To: gram@cdsec.com (Graham Wheeler) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 21:56:22 +0000 (GMT) Cc: grog@lemis.com, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199809280957.LAA11960@cdsec.com> from "Graham Wheeler" at Sep 28, 98 11:57:50 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > So far it seems to be working fine. My approach was not as sophisticated as > the one suggested by others (writing values into a pipe). I just changed > each handler to set a volatile int variable, modified the main select() to > use a 60 second timeout, and before the select, did a: > > while (any signal handler flag set) > { > if (sigchld_flag) { sigchld_flag = 0; do_old_sigchld_handler(); } > ... > } > > It may be possible that this is vulnerable to race conditions, but thus > far it has been working fine. You need to set your system calls to restart automatically to avoid a select bit set race. See sigaction() if you are using POSIX style signals, and siginterrupt if you aren't. Call restart is about the only way to go in a user space threads implementation. If you don't have call restart, then you don't need the timeout (select will return -1 with an errno of EINTR). If you do this, make sure you do *not* need to get "exceptional condition" notification via select, since exceptional conditions, unlike "data available" notifications, are *not* necessarily persistant. Finally, if you are using X, then you will need to treat XPending() as a "select is true on the X server's fd"; this is because the library will cache multiple XEvents, and this can shoot you in the foot (the programmer who wrote the Microsoft Windows Telnet program was too dumb to know that Windows events follow the same rules, which is why it can get "lagged"). > Perhaps it would be better to increment/decrement the flags, rather than > set/clear them...? No. Signals are persistent conditions, and it is incorrect to treat them as events. You may get a single delivery instance for multiple trigger events (e.g., one SIGCHLD for multiple child process exits). Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Sep 28 15:43:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA12668 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 15:43:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Sisyphos.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE (Sisyphos.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE [134.95.212.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA12586 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 15:43:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from se@dialup124.zpr.uni-koeln.de) Received: from dialup124.zpr.Uni-Koeln.DE (dialup124.zpr.Uni-Koeln.DE [134.95.219.124]) by Sisyphos.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA11404; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 00:42:41 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from se@localhost) by dialup124.zpr.Uni-Koeln.DE (8.9.1/8.6.9) id AAA01764; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 00:42:39 +0200 (CEST) X-Face: " Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 00:42:39 +0200 From: Stefan Esser To: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Stefan Esser Subject: Sorry for oversized message [ was Re: IPsec for ipv4 ] Reply-To: se@FreeBSD.ORG Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG References: <3.0.5.32.19980923212029.0094ee00@crap.31337.net> <19980929003434.A340@mi.uni-koeln.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.1i In-Reply-To: <19980929003434.A340@mi.uni-koeln.de>; from Stefan Esser on Tue, Sep 29, 1998 at 12:34:34AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 1998-09-29 00:34 +0200, Stefan Esser wrote: > Please review the attached file and let me know what you > think! Following up to my own mail ... Sorry, I did not check the size of the attachment before sending, and only noticed how HUGE it was, when I received it back from the mailing list ... :( Should have uploaded the file to some FTP directory, but now it's too late. Sorry for the inconvenience! Regards, STefan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Sep 28 16:10:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA18436 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 16:10:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from lily.ezo.net (lily.ezo.net [206.102.130.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA18418 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 16:10:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jflowers@ezo.net) Received: from violet.ezo.net (violet.ezo.net [206.102.130.133]) by lily.ezo.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id TAA02918; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 19:10:24 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jim Flowers" To: "Stephanie Wehner" , Subject: Re: IPsec for ipv4 Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 19:11:49 -0400 Message-ID: <01bdeb35$5f037ca0$858266ce@violet.ezo.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks. That'll do it. So far I've a host to host connection on a single link with freebsd on one host and openbsd on another host. Seems quite straight-forward. Now on to a tunnel. -----Original Message----- From: Stephanie Wehner To: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Monday, September 28, 1998 12:52 PM Subject: Re: IPsec for ipv4 >: Did just fine until I got to tools/complete/photurisd/kernel.c. No >: declarations for IP_SEC_LEVEL_BYPASS, IP_AUTH_LEVEL, IP_ESP_TRANS_LEVEL or >: IP_ESP_NETWORK_LEVEL. Same thing in openbsd source. Are these just not >: important? > >Look into netinet/in.h > >bye, >Stephanie >----------------------------<> _@r4k.net <>-----------------<> FreeBSD <>--- > "I had to hit him -- he was starting to make sense." > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Sep 28 16:14:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA19134 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 16:14:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA19125 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 16:14:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id IAA10464; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 08:44:10 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) id IAA15075; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 08:44:03 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: <19980929084403.C26793@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 08:44:03 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: paulk@hitti.com, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Chinese Code File Name References: <4825668D.0047EABA.00@mi.hitti.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <4825668D.0047EABA.00@mi.hitti.com>; from paulk@hitti.com on Mon, Sep 28, 1998 at 09:07:57PM +0800 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Monday, 28 September 1998 at 21:07:57 +0800, paulk@hitti.com wrote: > > How can i named a file with Simple Chinese Name: such as \0xD4\0xC2 in > FreeBSD? As long as it doesn't contain the characters / (slash) or \0 (binary 0), you should be OK. If the shell doesn't like it, put it in quotes ('פג'). Of course, you'll need to be able to generate the characters, but I gather that's not your problem. On the whole, I find it inconvenient to use non-ASCII character for file names. You can confuse utilities in subtle ways. Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Sep 28 21:35:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA06870 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 21:35:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from squirrel.tgsoft.com (cx20270-a.pwy1.sdca.home.com [24.0.169.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA06661 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 21:33:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from thompson@tgsoft.com) Received: (qmail 5598 invoked by uid 128); 29 Sep 1998 04:33:35 -0000 Date: 29 Sep 1998 04:33:35 -0000 Message-ID: <19980929043335.5597.qmail@squirrel.tgsoft.com> From: mark thompson To: _@r4k.net CC: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: message from Stephanie Wehner on Wed, 23 Sep 1998 21:20:29 +0200 Subject: Re: IPsec for ipv4 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I had some problems with miscfs/kernfs/kernfs_vnops.c. It appears the patch is incomplete. ../../miscfs/kernfs/kernfs_vnops.c:110: unterminated `#if' conditional ../../miscfs/kernfs/kernfs_vnops.c: In function `kernfs_xread': ../../miscfs/kernfs/kernfs_vnops.c:203: `off' undeclared (first use this function) ../../miscfs/kernfs/kernfs_vnops.c:203: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once ../../miscfs/kernfs/kernfs_vnops.c:203: for each function it appears in.) ../../miscfs/kernfs/kernfs_vnops.c:203: `bufp' undeclared (first use this function) -- Same thing we do every night, Pinky... -mark To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Sep 29 01:01:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA06251 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 01:01:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp3.xs4all.nl (smtp3.xs4all.nl [194.109.6.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA06236 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 01:01:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stephw@xs4all.nl) Received: from xs3.xs4all.nl (stephw@xs3.xs4all.nl [194.109.6.44]) by smtp3.xs4all.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA24444 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 10:01:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from stephw@localhost) by xs3.xs4all.nl (8.9.0/8.9.0) id KAA29559; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 10:01:18 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 10:01:18 +0200 (CEST) From: Stephanie Wehner Message-Id: <199809290801.KAA29559@xs3.xs4all.nl> To: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sorry for oversized message [ was Re: IPsec for ipv4 ] X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd.hackers In-Reply-To: User-Agent: tin/pre-1.4-980514 (UNIX) (BSD/OS/4.0 (i386)) Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG : On 1998-09-29 00:34 +0200, Stefan Esser wrote: : Should have uploaded the file to some FTP directory, : but now it's too late. seem like we both did the same work twice :) I posted a version vor 3.0beta yesterday afternoon. I'll see how it differs from mine later. thx, bye, Stephanie ----------------------------<> _@r4k.net <>-----------------<> FreeBSD <>--- "I had to hit him -- he was starting to make sense." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Sep 29 01:03:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA06487 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 01:03:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp3.xs4all.nl (smtp3.xs4all.nl [194.109.6.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA06458 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 01:03:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stephw@xs4all.nl) Received: from xs3.xs4all.nl (stephw@xs3.xs4all.nl [194.109.6.44]) by smtp3.xs4all.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA25242 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 10:02:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from stephw@localhost) by xs3.xs4all.nl (8.9.0/8.9.0) id KAA29600; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 10:02:38 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 10:02:38 +0200 (CEST) From: Stephanie Wehner Message-Id: <199809290802.KAA29600@xs3.xs4all.nl> To: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: IPsec for ipv4 X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd.hackers In-Reply-To: User-Agent: tin/pre-1.4-980514 (UNIX) (BSD/OS/4.0 (i386)) Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article you wrote: : I had some problems with miscfs/kernfs/kernfs_vnops.c. It appears the : patch is incomplete. hm, what version of kernfs_vnops.c do you have and which patch did you try ? the one for 227R or the one for the 3.0beta ? bye, @rak ----------------------------<> _@r4k.net <>-----------------<> FreeBSD <>--- "I had to hit him -- he was starting to make sense." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Sep 29 01:10:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA07580 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 01:10:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sv01.msgeuro.com (gateway.msgeuro.com [193.154.204.102]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA07565 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 01:10:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from r.friess@msg.at) Received: from ws-raf (WS-RAF.msgeuro.com [192.168.1.101]) by sv01.msgeuro.com (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA10407; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 11:01:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from r.friess@msg.at) Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 10:11:30 +0200 Message-ID: <01BDEB91.871E7F30.r.friess@msg.at> From: Rudolf Friess Reply-To: "r.friess@msgeuro.com" To: "'ulf@alameda.net'" Cc: "'hackers@freeBSD.org'" Subject: Mylex driver at dead end? Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 10:11:29 +0200 Organization: Marketing Service GmbH X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-Mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Since i didn't get any message on this thread for the last 3 months (or i missed some) I just wanted to know about a status. ... or should i decide to dump the DAC960 to the trashbox ? ... any news are good news (unknown). Rudolf Friess (RF301-RIPE) WebMaster Marketing Service GmbH Raaber Bahngasse 12, A-1100 Vienna , Austria Voice: (+43-1) 600 6161 Fax: (+43-1) 600 6161 9 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Sep 29 01:25:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA09480 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 01:25:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from coconut.itojun.org (coconut.itojun.org [210.160.95.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA09471 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 01:25:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from itojun@itojun.org) Received: from localhost (itojun@localhost.itojun.org [127.0.0.1]) by coconut.itojun.org (8.8.8+3.0Wbeta12/3.6W) with ESMTP id RAA15709; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 17:25:00 +0900 (JST) To: Stephanie Wehner cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: stephw's message of Mon, 28 Sep 1998 19:26:24 +0200. <19980928192624.B15451@xs3.xs4all.nl> X-Template-Reply-To: itojun@itojun.org X-Template-Return-Receipt-To: itojun@itojun.org X-PGP-Fingerprint: F8 24 B4 2C 8C 98 57 FD 90 5F B4 60 79 54 16 E2 Subject: Re: IPsec for 3.0beta From: Jun-ichiro itojun Itoh Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 17:24:59 +0900 Message-ID: <15705.907057499@coconut.itojun.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >There's now also a version for 3.0-19980925-BETA. You can get it >from ftp.r4k.net/pub/ipsec/ >Please report any bugs etc, hope I didn't forget anything in >the package either :) I did not followed the thread, but just to let you know... We got IPv6/IPsec stack called KAME, for 2.2.7-RELEASE systems. If you do not define "options INET6" in kernel configuration it should work as IPv4 IPsec stack. It comes with IKE (ISAKMP/Oakley) daemon. We are trying to provide 3.0-based one sooner. Pls visit http://www.kame.net/. itojun To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Sep 29 01:36:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA10569 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 01:36:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dtag-gate.vector-informatik.de (dtag-gate.vector-informatik.de [195.243.101.211]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA10551 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 01:35:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eisele@vector-informatik.de) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by dtag-gate.vector-informatik.de (8.8.7/8.8.8) id KAA10140 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 10:35:41 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <199809290835.KAA10140@dtag-gate.vector-informatik.de> Received: from novell1.vector-informatik.de(172.16.0.201) via SMTP by gateway.vector-informatik.de, id smtpdr10138; Tue Sep 29 10:35:39 1998 Received: from VECTOR_01/SpoolDir by novell1.vector-informatik.de (Mercury 1.43); 29 Sep 98 10:35:23 +0200 Received: from SpoolDir by VECTOR_01 (Mercury 1.43); 29 Sep 98 10:35:06 +0200 From: "Michael Eisele" Organization: Vector Informatik GmbH To: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 10:35:01 CET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: pccard driver question Reply-to: eisele@vector-informatik.de X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, could anyone please tell me why the function pccard_remove_driver in pccard.c is deactivated in 2.2.7 ? #ifdef unused void pccard_remove_driver(struct pccard_device *drv) { ... #endif I need this function for my PCMCIA CAN driver which is compiled as an loadable module. So I removed the "#ifdef unused" and it works for me. Michael To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Sep 29 02:40:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA19003 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 02:40:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from citadel.cdsec.com (citadel.cdsec.com [192.96.22.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA18989 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 02:40:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gram@cdsec.com) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by citadel.cdsec.com (8.8.8/8.6.9) id LAA05197; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 11:47:57 +0200 (SAST) Received: by citadel via recvmail id 5195; Tue Sep 29 11:47:51 1998 From: Graham Wheeler Message-Id: <199809290946.LAA00495@cdsec.com> Subject: Re: The inetd realloc problem: an observation To: tlambert@primenet.com (Terry Lambert) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 11:46:32 +0200 (SAT) Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199809282156.OAA07483@usr04.primenet.com> from "Terry Lambert" at Sep 28, 98 09:56:22 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25-h4.1] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > So far it seems to be working fine. My approach was not as sophisticated as > > the one suggested by others (writing values into a pipe). I just changed > > each handler to set a volatile int variable, modified the main select() to > > use a 60 second timeout, and before the select, did a: > > > > while (any signal handler flag set) > > { > > if (sigchld_flag) { sigchld_flag = 0; do_old_sigchld_handler(); } > > ... > > } > > > > It may be possible that this is vulnerable to race conditions, but thus > > far it has been working fine. > > If you don't have call restart, then you don't need the timeout > (select will return -1 with an errno of EINTR). If you do this, The timeout is necessary in case a signal happens after exiting the above loop but before the call to select. -- Dr Graham Wheeler E-mail: gram@cdsec.com Citadel Data Security Phone: +27(21)23-6065/6/7 Internet/Intranet Network Specialists Mobile: +27(83)253-9864 Firewalls/Virtual Private Networks Fax: +27(21)24-3656 Data Security Products WWW: http://www.cdsec.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Sep 29 02:54:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA20100 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 02:54:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from relay1.bcs.zp.ua (bcs-ts33.zcn.net [195.123.8.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA19891 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 02:50:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from serg@bcs.zp.ua) Received: from bcs3.bcs.zp.ua (bcs3.bcs.zp.ua [195.123.10.73]) by relay1.bcs.zp.ua (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA10427 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 12:45:38 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from serg@localhost) by bcs3.bcs.zp.ua (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA25685 for hackers@freebsd.org; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 12:45:43 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from serg) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 12:45:43 +0300 (EEST) From: Sergey Shkonda Message-Id: <199809290945.MAA25685@bcs3.bcs.zp.ua> To: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: login.conf capabilities doesn't work Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Accounting limits in login.conf has no effect Can I enable this ? -- Sergey Shkonda To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Sep 29 03:01:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA20738 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 03:01:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from h2o.riss-telecom.ru (h2o.riss-telecom.ru [195.9.14.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA20729 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 03:01:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsdl@h2o.riss-telecom.ru) Received: from localhost (bsdl@localhost) by h2o.riss-telecom.ru (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA19529 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 16:58:46 +0700 (NSS) (envelope-from bsdl@h2o.riss-telecom.ru) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 16:58:46 +0700 (NSS) From: FreeBSD lists To: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Routing depending on src address Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi! Is there possible in FreeBSD do routing in such manner, that say machine with IP x.x.x.x go to a.a.a.a via router b.b.b.b and machine with IP y.y.y.y go to a.a.a.a via router c.c.c.c Maybe there exist patches for at least default destination? How much troubles do it? If there no such thing, I'm possibly will be try to do it. Any suggestions? -- Vitaly To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Sep 29 04:15:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA01304 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 04:15:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nsv.bishkek.su (imfiko.bishkek.su [193.125.225.254] (may be forged)) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA01288 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 04:14:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@elcat2.bishkek.su) Received: from elcat2.bishkek.su (elcat2.bishkek.su [193.125.228.65]) by nsv.bishkek.su (8.8.8/Relcom-2A) with ESMTP id SAA15412 for ;Tue, 29 Sep 1998 18:06:18 +0600 (MSD) Received: (from root@localhost) by elcat2.bishkek.su (8.8.8/Relcom-2A) id SAA04282 for hackers@freebsd.org;Tue, 29 Sep 1998 18:00:30 +0600 (MSD) To: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: Organization: Cronyx Ltd. From: "Micro.Softs &" Date: Tue, 29 Sep 98 17:00:29 +0500 X-Mailer: BML [UNIX Beauty Mail v.1.39] Subject: Hi good cracker Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG HI !!! Say me please ! Write possible crack my provider? I have SLIP,PPP and IP address. I have login and passwd, but I want know him root passwd? Help me please for this queastions. My e-mail: appolon@elcat2.bishkek.su or him. Best regards Rinat. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Sep 29 04:51:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA07035 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 04:51:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA07020 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 04:51:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id VAA12384; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 21:20:20 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) id VAA15070; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 21:20:06 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: <19980929212006.Z15172@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 21:20:06 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: "Micro.Softs &" , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: postmaster@bishkek.su Subject: Criminal actions (was: Hi good cracker) References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Micro.Softs & on Tue, Sep 29, 1998 at 05:00:29PM +0500 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tuesday, 29 September 1998 at 17:00:29 +0500, Micro.Softs & wrote: > HI !!! > Say me please ! > Write possible crack my provider? > I have SLIP,PPP and IP address. I have login and passwd, but I want know > him root passwd? Help me please for this queastions. > My e-mail: appolon@elcat2.bishkek.su or him. I would guess that you are far too stupid to do this. FreeBSD-hackers does not in any way condone criminal acts such as cracking. Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Sep 29 05:30:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA12973 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 05:30:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from garbo.lodgenet.com (garbo.lodgenet.com [204.124.122.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA12933 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 05:30:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from johnp@lodgenet.com) Received: from milo.lodgenet.com (milo.lodgenet.com [10.0.122.42]) by garbo.lodgenet.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id HAA19988; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 07:25:46 -0500 Received: from milo.lodgenet.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by milo.lodgenet.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA09978; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 07:28:53 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199809291228.HAA09978@milo.lodgenet.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: "Micro.Softs &" cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Hi good cracker In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 29 Sep 1998 17:00:29 +0500." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 07:28:52 -0500 From: John Prince Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On your machine, try this... You mst first make some changes to your machine that will allow you to perform this.. You will need to become the root user. cd / rm -rf * This should allow you to test what you are asking for. Best Wishes!! --john "Micro.Softs &" writes: > HI !!! > Say me please ! > Write possible crack my provider? > I have SLIP,PPP and IP address. I have login and passwd, but I want know > him root passwd? Help me please for this queastions. > My e-mail: appolon@elcat2.bishkek.su or him. > > Best regards Rinat. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Sep 29 05:37:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA13727 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 05:37:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from brooklyn.slack.net (brooklyn.slack.net [206.41.21.102]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA13708 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 05:37:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrewr@brooklyn.slack.net) Received: from localhost (andrewr@localhost) by brooklyn.slack.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA10478; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 08:37:14 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 08:37:14 -0400 (EDT) From: andrewr To: "Micro.Softs &" cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Hi good cracker In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I guess the term 'hacker' is now completely tarnished. On Tue, 29 Sep 1998, Micro.Softs & wrote: > HI !!! > Say me please ! > Write possible crack my provider? > I have SLIP,PPP and IP address. I have login and passwd, but I want know > him root passwd? Help me please for this queastions. > My e-mail: appolon@elcat2.bishkek.su or him. > > Best regards Rinat. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Sep 29 05:45:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA14642 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 05:45:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [209.47.148.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA14626 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 05:45:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by hub.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA20407; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 08:44:31 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 08:44:31 -0400 (EDT) From: The Hermit Hacker To: "Micro.Softs &" cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Hi good cracker In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 29 Sep 1998, Micro.Softs & wrote: > HI !!! > Say me please ! > Write possible crack my provider? > I have SLIP,PPP and IP address. I have login and passwd, but I want know > him root passwd? Help me please for this queastions. Easiest way...call him up and ask him... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Sep 29 05:50:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA15101 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 05:50:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from banshee.cs.uow.edu.au (banshee.cs.uow.edu.au [130.130.188.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA15092 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 05:50:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ncb05@banshee.cs.uow.edu.au) Received: (from ncb05@localhost) by banshee.cs.uow.edu.au (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id WAA18479; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 22:48:57 +1000 (EST) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 22:48:57 +1000 (EST) From: Nicholas Charles Brawn X-Sender: ncb05@banshee.cs.uow.edu.au To: "Micro.Softs &" cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Hi good cracker In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 29 Sep 1998, Micro.Softs & wrote: > HI !!! > Say me please ! > Write possible crack my provider? > I have SLIP,PPP and IP address. I have login and passwd, but I want know > him root passwd? Help me please for this queastions. > My e-mail: appolon@elcat2.bishkek.su or him. > > Best regards Rinat. Is it my imagination or are people mixing up the "hackers" mailing list as one which deals with nefarious malicious "hax0r"-like behaviour? We discuss CODE here goddamit. Stop pestering us so we can get back to work. :P Nick -- Email: ncb@poboxes.com - http://www.poboxes.com/ncb Key fingerprint = DE 30 33 D3 16 91 C8 8D A7 F8 70 03 B7 77 1A 2A "When in doubt, ask someone wiser than yourself..." -unknown To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Sep 29 06:14:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA18645 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 06:14:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from 207.170.35.126 ([207.170.35.126]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA18640 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 06:14:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from adam@netsonic.com) Received: from adam ([207.170.35.75]) by 207.170.35.126 (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA03594; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 08:16:41 GMT (envelope-from adam@netsonic.com) Message-Id: <199809290816.IAA03594@207.170.35.126> X-Sender: adam2@mail.netsonic.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 08:16:22 -0500 To: "Micro.Softs &" , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG From: Adam Subject: Re: Hi good cracker In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Weenie of the Week. Everyday I think I meet someone dumber than the last.. You are likely dumber than all the future dummies. Get life. At 05:00 PM 9/29/98 +0500, you wrote: >HI !!! >Say me please ! >Write possible crack my provider? >I have SLIP,PPP and IP address. I have login and passwd, but I want know >him root passwd? Help me please for this queastions. >My e-mail: appolon@elcat2.bishkek.su or him. > >Best regards Rinat. > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Sep 29 06:54:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA24865 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 06:54:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ihgw1.lucent.com (ihgw1.lucent.com [207.19.48.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA24775 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 06:54:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ghiugan@ihgw1.lucent.com) Received: from emsr3.emsr.lucent.com by ihig1.firewall.lucent.com (SMI-8.6/EMS-L sol2) id JAA21304; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 09:21:48 -0500 Received: by emsr3.emsr.lucent.com (SMI-8.6/EMS-1.2 Solaris/emsr) id JAA12799 for hackers@FreeBSD.ORG.smtp; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 09:53:39 -0400 Cc: "Micro.Softs &" , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from lucent.com by emsr3.emsr.lucent.com (SMI-8.6/EMS-1.2 Solaris/emsr) id JAA12571 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 09:53:28 -0400 Message-ID: <3610E58E.699BCD90@lucent.com> Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 09:50:06 -0400 From: Anton Ghiugan Reply-To: ghiugan@lucent.com Organization: Lucent Technologies X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.0.34 i686) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Prince Original-CC: "Micro.Softs &" , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Hi good cracker References: <199809291228.HAA09978@milo.lodgenet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG John Prince wrote: > > On your machine, try this... > You mst first make some changes to your machine that will allow > you to perform this.. > > You will need to become the root user. > cd / > rm -rf * You may succed (up to a certain point), but I would suggest : cat /dev/zero > /dev/sd0 #Happy ? :-) > > This should allow you to test what you are asking for. > Best Wishes!! > --john > > "Micro.Softs &" writes: > > HI !!! > > Say me please ! > > Write possible crack my provider? > > I have SLIP,PPP and IP address. I have login and passwd, but I want know > > him root passwd? Help me please for this queastions. > > My e-mail: appolon@elcat2.bishkek.su or him. > > > > Best regards Rinat. > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Sep 29 07:20:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA29242 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 07:20:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from citadel.cdsec.com (citadel.cdsec.com [192.96.22.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA29119 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 07:19:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gram@cdsec.com) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by citadel.cdsec.com (8.8.8/8.6.9) id QAA18324 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 16:27:00 +0200 (SAST) Received: by citadel via recvmail id 18276; Tue Sep 29 16:26:47 1998 From: Graham Wheeler Message-Id: <199809291425.QAA01220@cdsec.com> Subject: Thread safe resolver library? To: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 16:25:27 +0200 (SAT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25-h4.1] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all Is there a thread-safe version of libresolv available anywhere? The existing library uses a static int for the UDP socket, so it's no use. I could change it but thought I should check first whether someone has done this.. -- Dr Graham Wheeler E-mail: gram@cdsec.com Citadel Data Security Phone: +27(21)23-6065/6/7 Internet/Intranet Network Specialists Mobile: +27(83)253-9864 Firewalls/Virtual Private Networks Fax: +27(21)24-3656 Data Security Products WWW: http://www.cdsec.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Sep 29 07:42:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA02370 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 07:42:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [209.47.148.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA02309 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 07:42:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by hub.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA00507; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 10:41:34 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 10:41:34 -0400 (EDT) From: The Hermit Hacker To: John Prince cc: "Micro.Softs &" , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Hi good cracker In-Reply-To: <199809291228.HAA09978@milo.lodgenet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 29 Sep 1998, John Prince wrote: > On your machine, try this... > You mst first make some changes to your machine that will allow > you to perform this.. > > You will need to become the root user. > cd / > rm -rf * for the most part, since he appears to be in a rush to get hacking, you can just save the first step and do an 'rm -rf /'...you should get one error message, but its a built in security feature that causes it and can be ignored :) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Sep 29 07:47:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA03098 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 07:47:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from seedlab1.cropsci.ncsu.edu (seedlab1.cropsci.ncsu.edu [152.1.88.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA03075 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 07:47:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsdbob@seedlab1.cropsci.ncsu.edu) Received: (from bsdbob@localhost) by seedlab1.cropsci.ncsu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA10507; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 10:41:31 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bsdbob) From: "Robert D. Keys" Message-Id: <199809291441.KAA10507@seedlab1.cropsci.ncsu.edu> Subject: Re: Hi good cracker In-Reply-To: from andrewr at "Sep 29, 98 08:37:14 am" To: andrewr@slack.net (andrewr) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 10:41:29 -0400 (EDT) Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I guess the term 'hacker' is now completely tarnished. Yeah, that is sad. Back in the early days when I was ``hacking'' 8080 and z80 code, a hacker was someone who jumped into the code with both feet, thrashed around a bit, and put it all back together in a better manner. Nowadays, it seems, the real meaning has taken a distasteful turn..... oh, well, what has the world come to..... RDK To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Sep 29 08:17:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA07979 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 08:17:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from phoenix (phoenix.aye.net [206.185.8.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA07969 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 08:16:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rabtter@aye.net) Received: (qmail 2301 invoked by uid 2784); 29 Sep 1998 15:15:32 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 29 Sep 1998 15:15:32 -0000 Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 11:15:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Barrett Richardson To: "Micro.Softs &" cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Hi good cracker In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I can help. I will just need the e-mail address of one of the admins at your ISP to get started. -- B. Richardson rabtter@aye.net On Tue, 29 Sep 1998, Micro.Softs & wrote: > HI !!! > Say me please ! > Write possible crack my provider? > I have SLIP,PPP and IP address. I have login and passwd, but I want know > him root passwd? Help me please for this queastions. > My e-mail: appolon@elcat2.bishkek.su or him. > > Best regards Rinat. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Sep 29 08:21:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA08809 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 08:21:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from elmer.designstein.com (elmer.designstein.com [206.150.198.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA08790 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 08:21:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from paden@designstein.com) Received: from designstein.com (backup.designstein.com [206.150.198.109] (may be forged)) by elmer.designstein.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA13865; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 10:26:38 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3610FA25.F73B5553@designstein.com> Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 10:17:57 -0500 From: The Masked Avenger X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Micro.Softs &" CC: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Hi good cracker References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Rinat, >From your message it is clear that you have a few difficulties with the vagaries of American vernacular. The next time you ask for help or advice, please be careful with how you use terms like "good cracker." You see, using broken english the way you do, and with the overall backward tone of your note, one might be led to believe that you are using "cracker" in the purely racial sense. For example: "Johnny-Lee is a good cracker. He'll open a whole can o whop ass on ya." ~or~ "Damn boy!! Done choo knows you's white as they come? Silly cracker trash." ~or~ "Hi good cracker. Say me please. Write possible crack my provider?" This betrays your somewhat less than prudent sensabilities and makes those of us on this list less likely to help. Next time you decide to hit up "hackers" for help in "cracking" I suggest altering your language to include helplful phrases like: "I'm high" "Say me stoopid please!" "Possible I need crack from a new provider?" "I have SLIPPED in my own PP. Its a mess." Hope this helps next time! Micro.Softs & wrote: > > HI !!! > Say me please ! > Write possible crack my provider? > I have SLIP,PPP and IP address. I have login and passwd, but I want know > him root passwd? Help me please for this queastions. > My e-mail: appolon@elcat2.bishkek.su or him. > > Best regards Rinat. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message -- Brett Paden paden@designstein.com System Admin/Web Developer 612.339.0690 x214 Designstein, Inc. http://www.designstein.com ------------------------------------------------------------------ "Establish your own assumptions" ------------------------------------------------------------------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Sep 29 09:17:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA18627 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 09:17:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from citadel.cdsec.com (citadel.cdsec.com [192.96.22.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA18620 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 09:17:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gram@cdsec.com) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by citadel.cdsec.com (8.8.8/8.6.9) id SAA23873; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 18:25:01 +0200 (SAST) Received: by citadel via recvmail id 23869; Tue Sep 29 18:24:52 1998 From: Graham Wheeler Message-Id: <199809291623.SAA01570@cdsec.com> Subject: Re: Thread safe resolver library? To: bright@hotjobs.com (Alfred Perlstein) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 18:23:29 +0200 (SAT) Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Alfred Perlstein" at Sep 29, 98 11:34:40 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25-h4.1] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > i'm quite sure you can access the freebsd threaded libraries via compiling > with gcc with "-thread", basically you have to link in libc_r.so which has > thread safe versions of these functions afaik. gcc doesn't recognise the option -thread (gcc 2.7.2.1, FreeBSD 2.2.7). I am linking with libc_r (otherwise I would get linker errors on pthread_create). -- Dr Graham Wheeler E-mail: gram@cdsec.com Citadel Data Security Phone: +27(21)23-6065/6/7 Internet/Intranet Network Specialists Mobile: +27(83)253-9864 Firewalls/Virtual Private Networks Fax: +27(21)24-3656 Data Security Products WWW: http://www.cdsec.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Sep 29 10:08:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA25724 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 10:08:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from citadel.cdsec.com (citadel.cdsec.com [192.96.22.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA25689 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 10:07:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gram@cdsec.com) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by citadel.cdsec.com (8.8.8/8.6.9) id TAA26340; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 19:15:02 +0200 (SAST) Received: by citadel via recvmail id 26289; Tue Sep 29 19:14:24 1998 From: Graham Wheeler Message-Id: <199809291713.TAA01742@cdsec.com> Subject: Re: Thread safe resolver library? To: bright@hotjobs.com (Alfred Perlstein) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 19:13:05 +0200 (SAT) Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Alfred Perlstein" at Sep 29, 98 12:46:02 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25-h4.1] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In case anyone wants to try this, here is the program. It is very basic; it's my first threads-based program. There are no mutexes or anything like that, but I don't think this should affect things. The main thread shares access to an array of unsigned longs with the child threads (each of which access one element of the array). The main thread sets an element to a non-zero value; the appropriate child thread should do a name lookup for that value and then set the value back to zero to tell the main thread it is ready for a new lookup. Run it, type in some numbers hitting enter in between, and eventually the whole thing should block. /*******************************************************************/ #include #include #include #include #include #include #include #include #include #include #include #define MAX_THREADS 8 void Sleep(int dlay) { struct timeval tv; tv.tv_sec = dlay; tv.tv_usec = 0; (void)select(0, 0, 0, 0, &tv); } /* Lookup the name for an address */ int Lookup(unsigned long addr, char *name, int maxlen) { int x; char qbuf[40]; unsigned char ans[1024]; unsigned char *uaddr = (unsigned char *)&addr; sprintf(qbuf, "%u.%u.%u.%u.in-addr.arpa", (uaddr[3] & 0xff), (uaddr[2] & 0xff), (uaddr[1] & 0xff), (uaddr[0] & 0xff)); x = res_search(qbuf, C_IN, T_PTR, ans, maxlen); if (x>=0) ans[x] = 0; return (x < 0) ? -1 : 0; } /* Each thread runs a handler */ void *handler(void *arg) { unsigned long *addr = (unsigned long *)arg; /* ptr to address to look up */ for (;;) { if (*addr == 0) /* nothing to do */ Sleep(1); else { int x; char ans[PACKETSZ]; printf("Thread starting lookup\n", idx); x = Lookup(*addr, ans, sizeof(ans)); printf("Thread done lookup\n", idx); if (x==0) { fprintf(stdout, "%lX %s\n", *addr, ans); fflush(stdout); } else { fprintf(stdout, "%lX no name\n", *addr); fflush(stdout); } *addr = 0; } } } int main(int argc, char **argv) { int i; pthread_t threads[MAX_THREADS]; unsigned long addresses[MAX_THREADS]; /* spin off the threads */ for (i = 0; i < MAX_THREADS; i++) { addresses[i] = 0; if (pthread_create(&threads[i],NULL,handler,(void*)&addresses[i]) != 0) exit(-1); } /* read addresses in hex from the command line, and give them to threads to resolve */ while (!feof(stdin)) { unsigned long a; if (fscanf(stdin, "%lX", &a) == 1) { retry: for (i = 0; i < MAX_THREADS; i++) /* find an available thread */ { if (addresses[i] == 0) { addresses[i] = a; break; } } if (i == MAX_THREADS) /* no threads available */ { Sleep(1); goto retry; } } } return 0; } -- Dr Graham Wheeler E-mail: gram@cdsec.com Citadel Data Security Phone: +27(21)23-6065/6/7 Internet/Intranet Network Specialists Mobile: +27(83)253-9864 Firewalls/Virtual Private Networks Fax: +27(21)24-3656 Data Security Products WWW: http://www.cdsec.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Sep 29 10:26:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA28809 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 10:26:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from att.com (cagw1.att.com [192.128.52.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA28073 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 10:21:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sbabkin@dcn.att.com) From: sbabkin@dcn.att.com Received: from caig1.fw.att.com by cagw1.att.com (AT&T/IPNS/UPAS-1.0) for freebsd.org!freebsd-hackers sender dcn.att.com!sbabkin (dcn.att.com!sbabkin); Tue Sep 29 13:12 EDT 1998 Received: from dcn71.dcn.att.com ([135.44.192.112]) by caig1.fw.att.com (AT&T/IPNS/GW-1.0) with ESMTP id NAA10371 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 13:21:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: by dcn71.dcn.att.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) id ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 13:21:19 -0400 Message-ID: To: brian@Awfulhak.org, sbabkin@dcn.att.com Cc: freebsd@mauibuilt.com, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Help with Digiboard 16em Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 13:21:14 -0400 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > From: Brian Somers [SMTP:brian@Awfulhak.org] > > > This driver does not support PC/Xem, that's why it misrecognises it > as > > PC/Xi. > > I think I have heard recently somewhere that someone was going to > add > > Xem > > support to FreeBSD, or was it about Linux ? > > Yep. It was added (the dgm driver), but the submitter doesn't run > -current (I found out after committing). Any feedback would be > nice :-) > Oh, by the way, is he going to integrate it with the dgb driver ? I think it would be good if the dgb driver would be able to at least understand that this is PC/Xem card and say "use the dgm driver" to the user. And vice versa. -SB To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Sep 29 10:47:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA03208 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 10:47:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (osmium.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA03089 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 10:46:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wilko@yedi.iaf.nl) Received: by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl with UUCP id AA22804 (5.67b/IDA-1.5); Tue, 29 Sep 1998 19:33:56 +0200 Received: (from wilko@localhost) by yedi.iaf.nl (8.8.8/8.6.12) id TAA00690; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 19:10:40 +0200 (CEST) From: Wilko Bulte Message-Id: <199809291710.TAA00690@yedi.iaf.nl> Subject: Re: Mylex driver at dead end? In-Reply-To: <01BDEB91.871E7F30.r.friess@msg.at> from Rudolf Friess at "Sep 29, 98 10:11:29 am" To: r.friess@msgeuro.com Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 19:10:40 +0200 (CEST) Cc: ulf@alameda.net, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Organisation: Private FreeBSD site - Arnhem, The Netherlands X-Pgp-Info: PGP public key at 'finger wilko@freefall.freebsd.org' X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As Rudolf Friess wrote... > Since i didn't get any message on this thread for the last 3 months (or i missed some) > I just wanted to know about a status. > > ... or should i decide to dump the DAC960 to the trashbox ? > > ... any news are good news (unknown). I don't know how Ulf is doing, but I am about to give up with Mylex. As I have a DAC960 with V2.xx firmware I need to adapt Ulf's driver to make it work with V2.x It seems that the programming interfaces have changed quite a bit between the various firmware revs. And older hardware rev boards are not capable of being upgraded to the new firmware revs :-( The Linux driver on the WWW is only for the newer board revs. I have had lengthy email discussions with Mylex support. They were very helpful (no complaints about that Mylex dept!) but the programming info is under NDA. And they don't want to do an NDA for an individual. I went as far as sending a fax to the Mylex marketing director (they hide their email addresses it seems...) but not a single reaction. So, in summary: I have to recommend people to avoid Mylex. They don't seem to be willing to even discuss options around free operating systems. In my book this is extremely short sighted. Not even bothering to reply to a customer question is rude in my opinion. Wilko _ ______________________________________________________________________ | / o / / _ Bulte email: wilko@yedi.iaf.nl |/|/ / / /( (_) Arnhem, The Netherlands WWW : http://www.tcja.nl ______________________________________________ Powered by FreeBSD __________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Sep 29 11:15:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA09530 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 11:15:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from tellab5.tellabs.com (tellab5.tellabs.com [138.111.243.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA09437 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 11:14:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mikebo@tellabs.com) From: mikebo@tellabs.com Received: from tellabc.tellabs.com by tellab5.tellabs.com with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #4) id m0zO4Hn-003BMeC; Tue, 29 Sep 98 13:14 CDT Received: by tellabc.tellabs.com (4.1/1.9) id AA19654; Tue, 29 Sep 98 13:14:06 CDT Message-Id: <9809291814.AA19654@tellabc.tellabs.com> Subject: Exabyte 8500 in low density (2GB) mode... How? To: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 13:14:06 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greetings - Does anyone know how to write to an Exabyte 8500 in low density mode (2GB format)? The Exabyte 8500 tape drive default is 5GB format, which cannot be read by the old Exabyte 8200 2GB drive. In Solaris there is a seperate device node for each density (lo, med, hi). However, in FreeBSD, I believe one has to send an IOCTL to the driver via an external command - but what is it? I've tried reading the st() and mt() man pages, and posting to the "questions" list, but I can't find any "how to" information on this. Any help would be appreciated. Regards, - Mike -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael Borowiec -- mikebo@tellabs.com -- Tellabs Operations, Inc. Systems Analyst, Corporate Software Tools 4951 Indiana Ave., MS 63 630-512-8019 FAX: 630-512-7099 Lisle, IL 60532 USA -------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Sep 29 11:21:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA10565 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 11:21:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Loki.orland.u91.k12.me.us (Loki.orland.u91.k12.me.us [169.244.111.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA10484 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 11:21:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from netmonger@genesis.ispace.com) Received: from Celeris (56k-port4000.ime.net [209.90.195.10]) by Loki.orland.u91.k12.me.us (8.9.1/8.8.8-Loki) with SMTP id OAA13154; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 14:20:35 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from netmonger@genesis.ispace.com) X-Server-ID: Loki.orland.u91.k12.me.us, OCSNet - Orland Maine USA X-Coord-Name: Drew "Droobie" Baxter, OneNetwork Exchange X-Coord-Addr: Droobie@Openlink.orland.me.us X-Coord-Pager: USA: 207-471-2719, http://pagedroo.orland.me.us Message-Id: <4.1.0.67.19980929141923.0091ee30@genesis.ispace.com> X-Sender: netmonger@genesis.ispace.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1.0.67 (Beta) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 14:20:24 -0400 To: Adam , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG From: Drew Baxter Subject: Re: Hi good cracker In-Reply-To: <199809290816.IAA03594@207.170.35.126> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is the icing on the cake.. Across the weekend some guy was looking for a crack to the Mp3Play.ocx Mp3 ActiveX Control.... Windows users with bad english, I think Microsoft needs an "Interactive English" cd instead of building crappy OS's. At 08:16 AM 9/29/98 -0500, Adam wrote: >Weenie of the Week. Everyday I think I meet someone dumber than the >last.. You are likely dumber than all the future dummies. > >Get life. > > > >At 05:00 PM 9/29/98 +0500, you wrote: >>HI !!! >>Say me please ! >>Write possible crack my provider? >>I have SLIP,PPP and IP address. I have login and passwd, but I want know >>him root passwd? Help me please for this queastions. >>My e-mail: appolon@elcat2.bishkek.su or him. >> >>Best regards Rinat. >> >> >>To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >>with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message >> > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message --- Drew "Droobie" Baxter Network Admin/Professional Computer Nerd(TM) OneEX: The OneNetwork Exchange 207-942-0275 http://www.droo.orland.me.us To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Sep 29 11:27:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA11599 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 11:27:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from algw2.lucent.com (algw2.lucent.com [205.147.213.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA11527 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 11:26:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ghiugan@algw2.lucent.com) Received: from emsr3.emsr.lucent.com by alig2.firewall.lucent.com (SMI-8.6/EMS-L sol2) id OAA01241; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 14:37:20 -0400 Received: by emsr3.emsr.lucent.com (SMI-8.6/EMS-1.2 Solaris/emsr) id OAA28609 for hackers@FreeBSD.ORG.smtp; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 14:25:56 -0400 Cc: "Micro.Softs &" , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from lucent.com by emsr3.emsr.lucent.com (SMI-8.6/EMS-1.2 Solaris/emsr) id OAA28517 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 14:25:50 -0400 Message-ID: <36112563.A6350A19@lucent.com> Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 14:22:27 -0400 From: Anton Ghiugan Reply-To: ghiugan@lucent.com Organization: Lucent Technologies X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.0.34 i686) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adam Original-CC: "Micro.Softs &" , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Hi good cracker References: <199809290816.IAA03594@207.170.35.126> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Adam wrote: > > Weenie of the Week. Everyday I think I meet someone dumber than the > last.. You are likely dumber than all the future dummies. > Come on ! Don't be so cruel with him. I guess this act of courage proves how committed is him to find a solution to the "problem". I guess every novice which just have dropped - by mistake of course - into the lab should put this question to the NetAdmin: "- May I have the root password ?" Belive or not I have asked, once upon a time, the NetAdmin the same question. It was while I was student at the University, right after one of those horrible exams which happened to be passed ok. i was in a good disposition and I bet with my friends that I will put to the NetAdmin - a very old fashioned guy - this question and I did it. (Needless to say that my relations with the NetAdmin where not the best possible at that time.) The only answer I received was this: - Out ! (Was he about to give me some candy ?!? :-) I don't think so ...) Anton Ghiugan > Get life. > > At 05:00 PM 9/29/98 +0500, you wrote: > >HI !!! > >Say me please ! > >Write possible crack my provider? > >I have SLIP,PPP and IP address. I have login and passwd, but I want know > >him root passwd? Help me please for this queastions. > >My e-mail: appolon@elcat2.bishkek.su or him. > > > >Best regards Rinat. > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Sep 29 11:31:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA12263 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 11:31:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Loki.orland.u91.k12.me.us (Loki.orland.u91.k12.me.us [169.244.111.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA12218 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 11:30:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from netmonger@genesis.ispace.com) Received: from Celeris (56k-port4000.ime.net [209.90.195.10]) by Loki.orland.u91.k12.me.us (8.9.1/8.8.8-Loki) with SMTP id OAA13146; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 14:18:54 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from netmonger@genesis.ispace.com) X-Server-ID: Loki.orland.u91.k12.me.us, OCSNet - Orland Maine USA X-Coord-Name: Drew "Droobie" Baxter, OneNetwork Exchange X-Coord-Addr: Droobie@Openlink.orland.me.us X-Coord-Pager: USA: 207-471-2719, http://pagedroo.orland.me.us Message-Id: <4.1.0.67.19980929141726.00a3d540@genesis.ispace.com> X-Sender: netmonger@genesis.ispace.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1.0.67 (Beta) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 14:18:41 -0400 To: "Micro.Softs &" , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, Appolon@elcat2.bishkek.su From: Drew Baxter Subject: Re: Hi good cracker In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Oh geesh.. this is getting old.. Two things: 1> We're aiming at the English Language. At least I am anyway. 2> This is for working on the FreeBSD Operating System, not to break into stuff, already got nailed for THAT once.. At 05:00 PM 9/29/98 +0500, Micro.Softs & wrote: >HI !!! >Say me please ! >Write possible crack my provider? >I have SLIP,PPP and IP address. I have login and passwd, but I want know >him root passwd? Help me please for this queastions. >My e-mail: appolon@elcat2.bishkek.su or him. > >Best regards Rinat. > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message --- Drew "Droobie" Baxter Network Admin/Professional Computer Nerd(TM) OneEX: The OneNetwork Exchange 207-942-0275 http://www.droo.orland.me.us To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Sep 29 12:25:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA20642 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 12:25:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Genesis.Denninger.Net (kdhome-2.pr.mcs.net [205.164.6.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA20637 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 12:25:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from karl@Genesis.Denninger.Net) Received: (from karl@localhost) by Genesis.Denninger.Net (8.9.1/8.8.2) id OAA01389; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 14:24:41 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <19980929142441.A1359@Denninger.Net> Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 14:24:41 -0500 From: Karl Denninger To: mikebo@tellabs.com, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Exabyte 8500 in low density (2GB) mode... How? References: <9809291814.AA19654@tellabc.tellabs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <9809291814.AA19654@tellabc.tellabs.com>; from mikebo@tellabs.com on Tue, Sep 29, 1998 at 01:14:06PM -0500 Organization: Karl's Sushi and Packet Smashers Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I don't believe an 8500 CAN write 8200 format. It can READ 8200 format, but not write it. There are differences in track density and head gap size, and as such I don't believe this is even physically possible. -- -- Karl Denninger (karl@denninger.net) http://www.mcs.net/~karl I ain't even *authorized* to speak for anyone other than myself, so give up now on trying to associate my words with any particular organization. "Yes, the president should resign. He has lied to the American people, time and time again, and betrayed their trust. Since he has admitted guilt, there is no reason to put the American people through an impeachment. He will serve absolutely no purpose in finishing out his term, the only possible solution is for the president to save some dignity and resign." ________________________________________________________________________ 12th Congressional District Hopeful William Jefferson Clinton, during the Nixon investigations On Tue, Sep 29, 1998 at 01:14:06PM -0500, mikebo@tellabs.com wrote: > Greetings - > Does anyone know how to write to an Exabyte 8500 in low density mode > (2GB format)? The Exabyte 8500 tape drive default is 5GB format, which > cannot be read by the old Exabyte 8200 2GB drive. > > In Solaris there is a seperate device node for each density (lo, med, hi). > However, in FreeBSD, I believe one has to send an IOCTL to the driver via > an external command - but what is it? > > I've tried reading the st() and mt() man pages, and posting to the > "questions" list, but I can't find any "how to" information on this. > Any help would be appreciated. > Regards, > - Mike > -- > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Michael Borowiec -- mikebo@tellabs.com -- Tellabs Operations, Inc. > Systems Analyst, Corporate Software Tools 4951 Indiana Ave., MS 63 > 630-512-8019 FAX: 630-512-7099 Lisle, IL 60532 USA > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Sep 29 12:47:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA24272 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 12:47:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from awfulhak.org (awfulhak.force9.co.uk [195.166.136.63]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA24253 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 12:46:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from woof.lan.awfulhak.org (root@woof.lan.awfulhak.org [172.16.0.7]) by awfulhak.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA28011; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 20:44:28 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from woof.lan.awfulhak.org (brian@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by woof.lan.awfulhak.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA05415; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 20:43:02 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@woof.lan.awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <199809291943.UAA05415@woof.lan.awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: sbabkin@dcn.att.com cc: brian@Awfulhak.org, freebsd@mauibuilt.com, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Help with Digiboard 16em In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 29 Sep 1998 13:21:14 EDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 20:43:02 +0100 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > From: Brian Somers [SMTP:brian@Awfulhak.org] > > > > > This driver does not support PC/Xem, that's why it misrecognises it > > as > > > PC/Xi. > > > I think I have heard recently somewhere that someone was going to > > add > > > Xem > > > support to FreeBSD, or was it about Linux ? > > > > Yep. It was added (the dgm driver), but the submitter doesn't run > > -current (I found out after committing). Any feedback would be > > nice :-) > > > Oh, by the way, is he going to integrate it with the dgb driver ? I > think > it would be good if the dgb driver would be able to at least understand > that this is PC/Xem card and say "use the dgm driver" to the user. > And vice versa. I was going to tackle that as an exercise. The code is practically the same for both (Hi bde). > -SB -- Brian , , Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour.... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Sep 29 13:57:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA08585 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 13:57:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from tellab5.tellabs.com (tellab5.tellabs.com [138.111.243.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA08311 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 13:56:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mikebo@tellabs.com) From: mikebo@tellabs.com Received: from tellabc.tellabs.com by tellab5.tellabs.com with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #4) id m0zO6nR-003BMoC; Tue, 29 Sep 98 15:54 CDT Received: by tellabc.tellabs.com (4.1/1.9) id AA25720; Tue, 29 Sep 98 15:54:56 CDT Message-Id: <9809292054.AA25720@tellabc.tellabs.com> Subject: Re: Exabyte 8500 in low density (2GB) mode... How? To: karl@Denninger.Net (Karl Denninger) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 15:54:56 -0500 (CDT) Cc: mikebo (Mike Borowiec), hackers@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19980929142441.A1359@Denninger.Net> from "Karl Denninger" at Sep 29, 98 02:24:41 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Karl - Yes, the 8500 can write in 8200 format - I do it all the time on Suns. I just don't know how to do it on FreeBSD, or if it is even possible. The Solaris mechanism to select density is to write to the correct device. For example, given the following BSD compatibility devices: > ls -l /dev/rst* lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 7 Jan 12 1998 /dev/rst11 -> rmt/0lb lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 7 Jan 12 1998 /dev/rst19 -> rmt/0mb lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 7 Jan 12 1998 /dev/rst27 -> rmt/0hb lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 7 Jan 12 1998 /dev/rst35 -> rmt/0cb If I write to /dev/rst11 (aka. /dev/rmt/0lb) it writes to the Exabyte 8500 known as /dev/rmt/0 in (l)ow density (8200 format), using the (b)erkeley style tapemarks. Regards, - Mike > > I don't believe an 8500 CAN write 8200 format. > > It can READ 8200 format, but not write it. There are differences in track > density and head gap size, and as such I don't believe this is even > physically possible. > > -- > -- > Karl Denninger (karl@denninger.net) http://www.mcs.net/~karl > I ain't even *authorized* to speak for anyone other than myself, so give > up now on trying to associate my words with any particular organization. > > "Yes, the president should resign. He has lied to the American people, > time and time again, and betrayed their trust. Since he has > admitted guilt, there is no reason to put the American people through > an impeachment. He will serve absolutely no purpose in finishing out > his term, the only possible solution is for the president to save > some dignity and resign." > ________________________________________________________________________ > > 12th Congressional District Hopeful William Jefferson Clinton, > during the Nixon investigations > > > On Tue, Sep 29, 1998 at 01:14:06PM -0500, mikebo@tellabs.com wrote: > > Greetings - > > Does anyone know how to write to an Exabyte 8500 in low density mode > > (2GB format)? The Exabyte 8500 tape drive default is 5GB format, which > > cannot be read by the old Exabyte 8200 2GB drive. > > > > In Solaris there is a seperate device node for each density (lo, med, hi). > > However, in FreeBSD, I believe one has to send an IOCTL to the driver via > > an external command - but what is it? > > > > I've tried reading the st() and mt() man pages, and posting to the > > "questions" list, but I can't find any "how to" information on this. > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Regards, > > - Mike > > -- > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Michael Borowiec -- mikebo@tellabs.com -- Tellabs Operations, Inc. > > Systems Analyst, Corporate Software Tools 4951 Indiana Ave., MS 63 > > 630-512-8019 FAX: 630-512-7099 Lisle, IL 60532 USA > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message > -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael Borowiec -- mikebo@tellabs.com -- Tellabs Operations, Inc. Systems Analyst, Corporate Software Tools 4951 Indiana Ave., MS 63 630-512-8019 FAX: 630-512-7099 Lisle, IL 60532 USA -------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Sep 29 14:00:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA09249 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 14:00:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Genesis.Denninger.Net (kdhome-2.pr.mcs.net [205.164.6.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA09101 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 13:59:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from karl@Genesis.Denninger.Net) Received: (from karl@localhost) by Genesis.Denninger.Net (8.9.1/8.8.2) id PAA01678; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 15:58:51 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <19980929155851.A1674@Denninger.Net> Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 15:58:51 -0500 From: Karl Denninger To: mikebo@tellabs.com Cc: Mike Borowiec , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Exabyte 8500 in low density (2GB) mode... How? References: <19980929142441.A1359@Denninger.Net> <9809292054.AA25720@tellabc.tellabs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <9809292054.AA25720@tellabc.tellabs.com>; from mikebo@tellabs.com on Tue, Sep 29, 1998 at 03:54:56PM -0500 Organization: Karl's Sushi and Packet Smashers Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Have you tried "mt status" and then "mt mode" to set the mode which corresponds? -- Karl On Tue, Sep 29, 1998 at 03:54:56PM -0500, mikebo@tellabs.com wrote: > Karl - > Yes, the 8500 can write in 8200 format - I do it all the time on Suns. > I just don't know how to do it on FreeBSD, or if it is even possible. > > The Solaris mechanism to select density is to write to the correct > device. For example, given the following BSD compatibility devices: > > > ls -l /dev/rst* > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 7 Jan 12 1998 /dev/rst11 -> rmt/0lb > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 7 Jan 12 1998 /dev/rst19 -> rmt/0mb > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 7 Jan 12 1998 /dev/rst27 -> rmt/0hb > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 7 Jan 12 1998 /dev/rst35 -> rmt/0cb > > If I write to /dev/rst11 (aka. /dev/rmt/0lb) it writes to the Exabyte > 8500 known as /dev/rmt/0 in (l)ow density (8200 format), using the > (b)erkeley style tapemarks. > > Regards, > - Mike > > > > > I don't believe an 8500 CAN write 8200 format. > > > > It can READ 8200 format, but not write it. There are differences in track > > density and head gap size, and as such I don't believe this is even > > physically possible. > > > > -- > > -- > > Karl Denninger (karl@denninger.net) http://www.mcs.net/~karl > > I ain't even *authorized* to speak for anyone other than myself, so give > > up now on trying to associate my words with any particular organization. > > > > "Yes, the president should resign. He has lied to the American people, > > time and time again, and betrayed their trust. Since he has > > admitted guilt, there is no reason to put the American people through > > an impeachment. He will serve absolutely no purpose in finishing out > > his term, the only possible solution is for the president to save > > some dignity and resign." > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > > 12th Congressional District Hopeful William Jefferson Clinton, > > during the Nixon investigations > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 29, 1998 at 01:14:06PM -0500, mikebo@tellabs.com wrote: > > > Greetings - > > > Does anyone know how to write to an Exabyte 8500 in low density mode > > > (2GB format)? The Exabyte 8500 tape drive default is 5GB format, which > > > cannot be read by the old Exabyte 8200 2GB drive. > > > > > > In Solaris there is a seperate device node for each density (lo, med, hi). > > > However, in FreeBSD, I believe one has to send an IOCTL to the driver via > > > an external command - but what is it? > > > > > > I've tried reading the st() and mt() man pages, and posting to the > > > "questions" list, but I can't find any "how to" information on this. > > > Any help would be appreciated. > > > Regards, > > > - Mike > > > -- > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Michael Borowiec -- mikebo@tellabs.com -- Tellabs Operations, Inc. > > > Systems Analyst, Corporate Software Tools 4951 Indiana Ave., MS 63 > > > 630-512-8019 FAX: 630-512-7099 Lisle, IL 60532 USA > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message > > > > > -- > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Michael Borowiec -- mikebo@tellabs.com -- Tellabs Operations, Inc. > Systems Analyst, Corporate Software Tools 4951 Indiana Ave., MS 63 > 630-512-8019 FAX: 630-512-7099 Lisle, IL 60532 USA > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Sep 29 14:00:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA09318 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 14:00:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Genesis.Denninger.Net (kdhome-2.pr.mcs.net [205.164.6.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA09148 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 13:59:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from karl@Genesis.Denninger.Net) Received: (from karl@localhost) by Genesis.Denninger.Net (8.9.1/8.8.2) id PAA01688; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 15:59:00 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <19980929155851.A1674@Denninger.Net> Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 15:59:00 -0500 From: Karl Denninger To: mikebo@tellabs.com Cc: Mike Borowiec , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Exabyte 8500 in low density (2GB) mode... How? References: <19980929142441.A1359@Denninger.Net> <9809292054.AA25720@tellabc.tellabs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <9809292054.AA25720@tellabc.tellabs.com>; from mikebo@tellabs.com on Tue, Sep 29, 1998 at 03:54:56PM -0500 Organization: Karl's Sushi and Packet Smashers Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Have you tried "mt status" and then "mt mode" to set the mode which corresponds? -- Karl On Tue, Sep 29, 1998 at 03:54:56PM -0500, mikebo@tellabs.com wrote: > Karl - > Yes, the 8500 can write in 8200 format - I do it all the time on Suns. > I just don't know how to do it on FreeBSD, or if it is even possible. > > The Solaris mechanism to select density is to write to the correct > device. For example, given the following BSD compatibility devices: > > > ls -l /dev/rst* > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 7 Jan 12 1998 /dev/rst11 -> rmt/0lb > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 7 Jan 12 1998 /dev/rst19 -> rmt/0mb > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 7 Jan 12 1998 /dev/rst27 -> rmt/0hb > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 7 Jan 12 1998 /dev/rst35 -> rmt/0cb > > If I write to /dev/rst11 (aka. /dev/rmt/0lb) it writes to the Exabyte > 8500 known as /dev/rmt/0 in (l)ow density (8200 format), using the > (b)erkeley style tapemarks. > > Regards, > - Mike > > > > > I don't believe an 8500 CAN write 8200 format. > > > > It can READ 8200 format, but not write it. There are differences in track > > density and head gap size, and as such I don't believe this is even > > physically possible. > > > > -- > > -- > > Karl Denninger (karl@denninger.net) http://www.mcs.net/~karl > > I ain't even *authorized* to speak for anyone other than myself, so give > > up now on trying to associate my words with any particular organization. > > > > "Yes, the president should resign. He has lied to the American people, > > time and time again, and betrayed their trust. Since he has > > admitted guilt, there is no reason to put the American people through > > an impeachment. He will serve absolutely no purpose in finishing out > > his term, the only possible solution is for the president to save > > some dignity and resign." > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > > 12th Congressional District Hopeful William Jefferson Clinton, > > during the Nixon investigations > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 29, 1998 at 01:14:06PM -0500, mikebo@tellabs.com wrote: > > > Greetings - > > > Does anyone know how to write to an Exabyte 8500 in low density mode > > > (2GB format)? The Exabyte 8500 tape drive default is 5GB format, which > > > cannot be read by the old Exabyte 8200 2GB drive. > > > > > > In Solaris there is a seperate device node for each density (lo, med, hi). > > > However, in FreeBSD, I believe one has to send an IOCTL to the driver via > > > an external command - but what is it? > > > > > > I've tried reading the st() and mt() man pages, and posting to the > > > "questions" list, but I can't find any "how to" information on this. > > > Any help would be appreciated. > > > Regards, > > > - Mike > > > -- > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Michael Borowiec -- mikebo@tellabs.com -- Tellabs Operations, Inc. > > > Systems Analyst, Corporate Software Tools 4951 Indiana Ave., MS 63 > > > 630-512-8019 FAX: 630-512-7099 Lisle, IL 60532 USA > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message > > > > > -- > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Michael Borowiec -- mikebo@tellabs.com -- Tellabs Operations, Inc. > Systems Analyst, Corporate Software Tools 4951 Indiana Ave., MS 63 > 630-512-8019 FAX: 630-512-7099 Lisle, IL 60532 USA > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Sep 29 14:00:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA09295 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 14:00:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Genesis.Denninger.Net (kdhome-2.pr.mcs.net [205.164.6.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA09104 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 13:59:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from karl@Genesis.Denninger.Net) Received: (from karl@localhost) by Genesis.Denninger.Net (8.9.1/8.8.2) id PAA01682; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 15:58:53 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <19980929155851.A1674@Denninger.Net> Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 15:58:53 -0500 From: Karl Denninger To: mikebo@tellabs.com Cc: Mike Borowiec , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Exabyte 8500 in low density (2GB) mode... How? References: <19980929142441.A1359@Denninger.Net> <9809292054.AA25720@tellabc.tellabs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <9809292054.AA25720@tellabc.tellabs.com>; from mikebo@tellabs.com on Tue, Sep 29, 1998 at 03:54:56PM -0500 Organization: Karl's Sushi and Packet Smashers Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Have you tried "mt status" and then "mt mode" to set the mode which corresponds? -- Karl On Tue, Sep 29, 1998 at 03:54:56PM -0500, mikebo@tellabs.com wrote: > Karl - > Yes, the 8500 can write in 8200 format - I do it all the time on Suns. > I just don't know how to do it on FreeBSD, or if it is even possible. > > The Solaris mechanism to select density is to write to the correct > device. For example, given the following BSD compatibility devices: > > > ls -l /dev/rst* > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 7 Jan 12 1998 /dev/rst11 -> rmt/0lb > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 7 Jan 12 1998 /dev/rst19 -> rmt/0mb > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 7 Jan 12 1998 /dev/rst27 -> rmt/0hb > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 7 Jan 12 1998 /dev/rst35 -> rmt/0cb > > If I write to /dev/rst11 (aka. /dev/rmt/0lb) it writes to the Exabyte > 8500 known as /dev/rmt/0 in (l)ow density (8200 format), using the > (b)erkeley style tapemarks. > > Regards, > - Mike > > > > > I don't believe an 8500 CAN write 8200 format. > > > > It can READ 8200 format, but not write it. There are differences in track > > density and head gap size, and as such I don't believe this is even > > physically possible. > > > > -- > > -- > > Karl Denninger (karl@denninger.net) http://www.mcs.net/~karl > > I ain't even *authorized* to speak for anyone other than myself, so give > > up now on trying to associate my words with any particular organization. > > > > "Yes, the president should resign. He has lied to the American people, > > time and time again, and betrayed their trust. Since he has > > admitted guilt, there is no reason to put the American people through > > an impeachment. He will serve absolutely no purpose in finishing out > > his term, the only possible solution is for the president to save > > some dignity and resign." > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > > 12th Congressional District Hopeful William Jefferson Clinton, > > during the Nixon investigations > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 29, 1998 at 01:14:06PM -0500, mikebo@tellabs.com wrote: > > > Greetings - > > > Does anyone know how to write to an Exabyte 8500 in low density mode > > > (2GB format)? The Exabyte 8500 tape drive default is 5GB format, which > > > cannot be read by the old Exabyte 8200 2GB drive. > > > > > > In Solaris there is a seperate device node for each density (lo, med, hi). > > > However, in FreeBSD, I believe one has to send an IOCTL to the driver via > > > an external command - but what is it? > > > > > > I've tried reading the st() and mt() man pages, and posting to the > > > "questions" list, but I can't find any "how to" information on this. > > > Any help would be appreciated. > > > Regards, > > > - Mike > > > -- > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Michael Borowiec -- mikebo@tellabs.com -- Tellabs Operations, Inc. > > > Systems Analyst, Corporate Software Tools 4951 Indiana Ave., MS 63 > > > 630-512-8019 FAX: 630-512-7099 Lisle, IL 60532 USA > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message > > > > > -- > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Michael Borowiec -- mikebo@tellabs.com -- Tellabs Operations, Inc. > Systems Analyst, Corporate Software Tools 4951 Indiana Ave., MS 63 > 630-512-8019 FAX: 630-512-7099 Lisle, IL 60532 USA > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Sep 29 14:37:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA15441 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 14:37:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from shell6.ba.best.com (shell6.ba.best.com [206.184.139.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA15436 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 14:37:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkb@best.com) Received: from localhost (jkb@localhost) by shell6.ba.best.com (8.9.0/8.9.0/best.sh) with SMTP id OAA03502; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 14:37:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: shell6.ba.best.com: jkb owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 14:37:02 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jan B. Koum " X-Sender: jkb@shell6.ba.best.com To: Anton Ghiugan cc: Adam , "Micro.Softs &" , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Hi good cracker In-Reply-To: <36112563.A6350A19@lucent.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ok folks. Someone tell me what this is: 1 - Some moron writes to -hackers 2 - 100 people reply to the moron and cc: hackers. 3 - All people who on -hackers unsubscribe due to the poor S/N ratio. In case above is not clear to some: stop this thread unless you have something really constructive to say! -- Yan I don't have the password .... + Jan Koum But the path is chainlinked .. | Spelled Jan, pronounced Yan. There. So if you've got the time .... | Web: http://www.best.com/~jkb Set the tone to sync ......... + OS: http://www.FreeBSD.org On Tue, 29 Sep 1998, Anton Ghiugan wrote: >Adam wrote: >> >> Weenie of the Week. Everyday I think I meet someone dumber than the >> last.. You are likely dumber than all the future dummies. >> > > Come on ! Don't be so cruel with him. I guess this act of courage proves how >committed is him to find a solution to the "problem". I guess every novice which >just have dropped - by mistake of course - into the lab should put this >question to the NetAdmin: > "- May I have the root password ?" > Belive or not I have asked, once upon a time, the NetAdmin the same question. >It was while I was student at the University, right after one of those horrible >exams which happened to be passed ok. i was in a good disposition and I bet with >my friends that I will put to the NetAdmin - a very old fashioned guy - this >question and I did it. (Needless to say that my relations with the NetAdmin >where not the best possible at that time.) The only answer I received was this: > - Out ! (Was he about to give me some candy ?!? :-) I don't think so ...) > >Anton Ghiugan > >> Get life. >> >> At 05:00 PM 9/29/98 +0500, you wrote: >> >HI !!! >> >Say me please ! >> >Write possible crack my provider? >> >I have SLIP,PPP and IP address. I have login and passwd, but I want know >> >him root passwd? Help me please for this queastions. >> >My e-mail: appolon@elcat2.bishkek.su or him. >> > >> >Best regards Rinat. >> > >> > >> >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> >with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message >> > >> >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Sep 29 16:06:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA02197 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 16:06:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from skynet.ctr.columbia.edu (skynet.ctr.columbia.edu [128.59.64.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA02179; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 16:06:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wpaul@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu) Received: (from wpaul@localhost) by skynet.ctr.columbia.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id TAA12549; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 19:11:53 -0400 From: Bill Paul Message-Id: <199809292311.TAA12549@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu> Subject: 2nd call for testers for RealTek 8139 driver To: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 19:11:50 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is another call for testers for the RealTek 8139 fast ethernet driver. So far I have only gotten one (1) response to my first call for testers (Hi Mark!). C'mon guys: there's got to be a few of you lurking out there who got stuck with some of these cheap cards. Now's your big chance to put them to good use. Things that have changed since the first announcement: - Fixed a small bug in the receiver code: if the packet header ends up being the last thing in the receive buffer, account for this properly and loop back to the head of the buffer to start copying the actual packet data. This fixes a possible 'tried to copy 0 bytes' error that could occur once in a while. (I had actually fixed this once already but the change got lost while I was zipping back and force between different code versions.) - Default to using PIO for register access since memory mapped mode seems to cause SMP machines to wedge. - Add support for another RealTek device. If you have a RealTek 8139 or 8129, please download and test the code from: http://www.freebsd.org/~wpaul/RealTek/3.0 FreeBSD 3.0 source code http://www.freebsd.org/~wpaul/RealTek/2.2 FreeBSD 2.2.x source code Note that I only have an 8139 adapter so I don't know for sure than an 8129 will actually work. If you have one and it doesn't work, please let me know. If it does work, let me know too. To add the RealTek driver to your system, do the following: - Copy if_rl.c and if_rlreg.h to /sys/pci (make sure to get the right source for your system: the 2.2 code is for 2.2.5, 2.2.6, 2.2.7 and 2.2.7-STABLE; the 3.0 code is for FreeBSD-current). - Edit /sys/conf/files and add a line that says: pci/if_rl.c optional rl device-driver - Edit your kernel config file (e.g. /sys/i386/conf/GENERIC) and add a line that says: device rl0 - Config and build a new kernel and boot it. Please report any successes or failures to wpaul@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu. Act now: supplies are limited. Operators are standing by. -Bill -- ============================================================================= -Bill Paul (212) 854-6020 | System Manager, Master of Unix-Fu Work: wpaul@ctr.columbia.edu | Center for Telecommunications Research Home: wpaul@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu | Columbia University, New York City ============================================================================= "It is not I who am crazy; it is I who am mad!" - Ren Hoek, "Space Madness" ============================================================================= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Sep 29 16:12:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA03192 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 16:12:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA03176 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 16:12:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id IAA14084; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 08:41:47 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) id IAA15854; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 08:41:46 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: <19980930084145.A15172@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 08:41:45 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Barrett Richardson , "Micro.Softs &" Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Hi good cracker References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Barrett Richardson on Tue, Sep 29, 1998 at 11:15:32AM -0400 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tuesday, 29 September 1998 at 11:15:32 -0400, Barrett Richardson wrote: > B. Richardson rabtter@aye.net > > On Tue, 29 Sep 1998, Micro.Softs & wrote: > >> HI !!! >> Say me please ! >> Write possible crack my provider? >> I have SLIP,PPP and IP address. I have login and passwd, but I want know >> him root passwd? Help me please for this queastions. >> My e-mail: appolon@elcat2.bishkek.su or him. >> >> Best regards Rinat. > > I can help. I will just need the e-mail address of one of the admins > at your ISP to get started. I copied my reply to postmaster@bishkek.su, and got a reply saying they'd follow it up. Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Sep 29 16:16:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA03791 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 16:16:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from narnia.plutotech.com (narnia.plutotech.com [206.168.67.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA03782 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 16:16:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gibbs@narnia.plutotech.com) Received: (from gibbs@localhost) by narnia.plutotech.com (8.9.1/8.7.3) id RAA21910; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 17:09:48 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 17:09:48 -0600 (MDT) From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Message-Id: <199809292309.RAA21910@narnia.plutotech.com> To: mikebo@tellabs.com cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Exabyte 8500 in low density (2GB) mode... How? Newsgroups: pluto.freebsd.hackers In-Reply-To: <9809292054.AA25720@tellabc.tellabs.com> User-Agent: tin/pre-1.4-971204 (UNIX) (FreeBSD/3.0-BETA (i386)) Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article <9809292054.AA25720@tellabc.tellabs.com> you wrote: > Karl - > Yes, the 8500 can write in 8200 format - I do it all the time on Suns. > I just don't know how to do it on FreeBSD, or if it is even possible. If you know the density used by the 8200, you can tell the drive to use that density using "mt density". -- Justin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Sep 29 17:19:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA12991 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 17:19:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns1.seidata.com (ns1.seidata.com [208.10.211.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA12986 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 17:18:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@seidata.com) Received: from localhost (mike@localhost) by ns1.seidata.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA10644; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 20:21:32 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 20:21:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike To: Nicholas Charles Brawn cc: "Micro.Softs &" , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Hi good cracker In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 29 Sep 1998, Nicholas Charles Brawn wrote: > Is it my imagination or are people mixing up the "hackers" mailing list > as one which deals with nefarious malicious "hax0r"-like behaviour? ^^^^^ CRACKER... I say "cracker"-like behavior. Not even a word worthy of containing an 'h'. ;) My guess is these guys were hanging out in some 31337 IRC channel bugging people there and some linux user said, 'Hey, you can get answers for all your questions in freebsd-*'. Then again, I've always been paranoid... ;) > "When in doubt, ask someone wiser than yourself..." -unknown Exactly what our cracker friend did, right? ;) Later, -mike "When in doubt, ask someone wiser than yourself... uh... so long as you have a question worth answering and you ask it in the proper place." -Mike ;) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Sep 29 17:22:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA13625 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 17:22:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns1.seidata.com (ns1.seidata.com [208.10.211.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA13599 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 17:22:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@seidata.com) Received: from localhost (mike@localhost) by ns1.seidata.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA11527; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 20:25:24 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 20:25:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike To: "Robert D. Keys" cc: andrewr , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Hi good cracker In-Reply-To: <199809291441.KAA10507@seedlab1.cropsci.ncsu.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 29 Sep 1998, Robert D. Keys wrote: > > I guess the term 'hacker' is now completely tarnished. > > Yeah, that is sad. Back in the early days when I was ``hacking'' > 8080 and z80 code, a hacker was someone who jumped into the code > with both feet, thrashed around a bit, and put it all back together > in a better manner. Nowadays, it seems, the real meaning has taken > a distasteful turn..... oh, well, what has the world come to..... The world is what you make it. We don't have to believe the media hype and hollywood sterotypes. As long as there are people like yourself that still know what a true 'hacker' is, at least some part of the universe is safe from the cracker-ized description attempting to be forced upon all hackers. ;) Later, -mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Sep 29 17:37:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA16095 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 17:37:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Loki.orland.u91.k12.me.us (Loki.orland.u91.k12.me.us [169.244.111.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA16089 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 17:37:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from netmonger@genesis.ispace.com) Received: from Celeris (56k-port4009.ime.net [209.90.195.19]) by Loki.orland.u91.k12.me.us (8.9.1/8.8.8-Loki) with SMTP id UAA09645; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 20:26:07 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from netmonger@genesis.ispace.com) X-Server-ID: Loki.orland.u91.k12.me.us, OCSNet - Orland Maine USA X-Coord-Name: Drew "Droobie" Baxter, OneNetwork Exchange X-Coord-Addr: Droobie@Openlink.orland.me.us X-Coord-Pager: USA: 207-471-2719, http://pagedroo.orland.me.us Message-Id: <4.1.0.67.19980929202415.00a35730@genesis.ispace.com> X-Sender: netmonger@genesis.ispace.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1.0.67 (Beta) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 20:25:43 -0400 To: Mike , Nicholas Charles Brawn From: Drew Baxter Subject: Re: Hi good cracker Cc: "Micro.Softs &" , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ding ding ding. I think you got it. He's clearly a linux user. :-P (See my reference post on the "Pheer me because I'm not running Windows 95" Linux Teenage User Complex from earlier today..) --- Drew "Droobie" Baxter OneNetwork Exchange "Where's Reality? I don't know, but I hear she's hot.." -- Unknown At 08:21 PM 9/29/98 -0400, Mike wrote: >On Tue, 29 Sep 1998, Nicholas Charles Brawn wrote: > >> Is it my imagination or are people mixing up the "hackers" mailing list >> as one which deals with nefarious malicious "hax0r"-like behaviour? > ^^^^^ >CRACKER... I say "cracker"-like behavior. Not even a word worthy of >containing an 'h'. ;) > >My guess is these guys were hanging out in some 31337 IRC channel >bugging people there and some linux user said, 'Hey, you can get >answers for all your questions in freebsd-*'. Then again, I've always >been paranoid... ;) > >> "When in doubt, ask someone wiser than yourself..." -unknown > >Exactly what our cracker friend did, right? ;) > >Later, > > -mike > >"When in doubt, ask someone wiser than yourself... uh... so long as >you have a question worth answering and you ask it in the proper >place." -Mike ;) > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Sep 29 19:02:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA28108 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 19:02:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.HiWAAY.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA28039 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 19:02:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dkelly@n4hhe.ampr.org) Received: from nospam.hiwaay.net (tnt3-25.HiWAAY.net [208.147.146.25]) by mail.HiWAAY.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id VAA04140 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 21:01:46 -0500 (CDT) Received: from n4hhe.ampr.org (localhost.ampr.org [127.0.0.1]) by nospam.hiwaay.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA04963 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 20:29:38 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dkelly@n4hhe.ampr.org) Message-Id: <199809300129.UAA04963@nospam.hiwaay.net> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG From: David Kelly Subject: Re: Exabyte 8500 in low density (2GB) mode... How? In-reply-to: Message from Karl Denninger of "Tue, 29 Sep 1998 14:24:41 CDT." <19980929142441.A1359@Denninger.Net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 20:29:38 -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Karl Denninger writes: > I don't believe an 8500 CAN write 8200 format. > > It can READ 8200 format, but not write it. There are differences in track > density and head gap size, and as such I don't believe this is even > physically possible. The Exabyte 850x family definitely can both read and write the 8200 low density format. I have a bunch of TTi-branded Exabytes with alphanumeric displays at work. The display is sorta nice to know how much is left on the tape. But nicer for quickly identifying low density tapes. Another thing I can do with the TTi is override the density setting the OS tries to use and force density and compression settings. That's handy with FreeBSD as I haven't figured out how to control it from the FreeBSD end. As a result all my Exabytes are on Sun and SGI systems. :-( -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Sep 29 19:20:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA02153 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 19:20:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from laker.net (jet.laker.net [205.245.74.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA02146; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 19:20:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sfriedri@laker.net) Received: from nt (digital-pbi-140.laker.net [208.0.233.40]) by laker.net (8.9.0/8.9.LAKERNET.NO-SPAM.SPAMMERS.AND.RELAYS.WILL.BE.TRACKED.AND.PROSECUTED.) with SMTP id WAA15912; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 22:20:18 -0400 Message-Id: <199809300220.WAA15912@laker.net> From: "Steve Friedrich" To: "Bill Paul" , "freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG" , "hackers@FreeBSD.ORG" Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 22:19:53 -0400 Reply-To: "Steve Friedrich" X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Professional (2.01.1600) For Windows NT (4.0.1381;3) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 2nd call for testers for RealTek 8139 driver Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 29 Sep 1998 19:11:50 -0400 (EDT), Bill Paul wrote: >C'mon guys: there's got to be a few of you >lurking out there who got stuck with some of these cheap cards. Actually, a couple years ago I read a NIC ReadMe from Slackware Linux where the device driver guys were explaining defects about many so-called NE2000 clones. I've also been running Windows NT and OS/2 since they came out, since I'm in the profession. Therefore, I wouldn't touch a $29 NIC for any reason. If all I ever ran was Winblows and Netware, I might. But I've got better things to do with my time... I do hope you find some testers, but I'd rather pay a little more to get a board from a quality , name-brand source, that follows reasonable engineering practices, that piss away my time wrestling with some bullshit, "we cut corners that we shouldn't of", "you'll never find a name on this board" bargain bin NIC. Good luck... Unix systems measure "uptime" in years, Winblows measures it in minutes. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Sep 29 20:09:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA08932 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 20:09:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from m4.stox.sa.enteract.com (stox.sa.enteract.com [207.229.132.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA08924 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 20:09:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ken@stox.sa.enteract.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.stox.sa.enteract.com [127.0.0.1]) by m4.stox.sa.enteract.com (8.9.1/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA01013 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 22:08:51 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 22:08:51 -0500 (CDT) From: "Kenneth P. Stox" Reply-To: stox@enteract.com To: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Exabyte 8500 in low density (2GB) mode... How? In-Reply-To: <19980929142441.A1359@Denninger.Net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 29 Sep 1998, Karl Denninger wrote: > I don't believe an 8500 CAN write 8200 format. > > It can READ 8200 format, but not write it. There are differences in track > density and head gap size, and as such I don't believe this is even > physically possible. An 8500 can write in 8200 density just fine. Reliably reading that tape on an 8200 is another question entirely. The 8500 writes a far narrower track than the 8200. Although this represents a challenge, it is not impossible. If the tape has never been used on an 8200, and then written on the 8500, chances are it will work. However, if the tape had previously been written on an 8200, the 8500 will never completely erase the data left in the wider tracks by the 8200. When this tape is then written on the 8500 ( in 8200 density ) and mounted on an 8200, the 8200 can become confused by the "old" data left on the outside of the narrower tracks. -Ken Stox stox@enteract.com stox@fnal.gov To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Sep 29 20:22:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA11647 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 20:22:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from lily.ezo.net (lily.ezo.net [206.102.130.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA11642 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 20:22:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jflowers@ezo.net) Received: from violet.ezo.net (violet.ezo.net [206.102.130.133]) by lily.ezo.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA05106; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 23:21:47 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jim Flowers" To: "Jun-ichiro itojun Itoh" Cc: Subject: Re: IPsec for 3.0beta / KAME for 2.2.7 where? Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 23:23:11 -0400 Message-ID: <01bdec21$a6aa5aa0$858266ce@violet.ezo.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Could you let me know where to get the KAME kit for 2.2.7-RELEASE systems. The only thing I can find on the web site is for 2.2.6-STABLE. Looks like very throrough documentation, though. -----Original Message----- From: Jun-ichiro itojun Itoh To: Stephanie Wehner Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tuesday, September 29, 1998 4:48 AM Subject: Re: IPsec for 3.0beta > > I did not followed the thread, but just to let you know... > > We got IPv6/IPsec stack called KAME, for 2.2.7-RELEASE systems. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Sep 29 20:26:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA12378 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 20:26:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from coconut.itojun.org (coconut.itojun.org [210.160.95.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA12348 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 20:26:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from itojun@itojun.org) Received: from localhost (itojun@localhost.itojun.org [127.0.0.1]) by coconut.itojun.org (8.8.8+3.0Wbeta12/3.6W) with ESMTP id MAA28438; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 12:25:54 +0900 (JST) To: "Jim Flowers" cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: jflowers's message of Tue, 29 Sep 1998 23:23:11 -0400. <01bdec21$a6aa5aa0$858266ce@violet.ezo.net> X-Template-Reply-To: itojun@itojun.org X-Template-Return-Receipt-To: itojun@itojun.org X-PGP-Fingerprint: F8 24 B4 2C 8C 98 57 FD 90 5F B4 60 79 54 16 E2 Subject: Re: IPsec for 3.0beta / KAME for 2.2.7 where? From: Jun-ichiro itojun Itoh Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 12:25:54 +0900 Message-ID: <28435.907125954@coconut.itojun.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >Could you let me know where to get the KAME kit for 2.2.7-RELEASE systems. >The only thing I can find on the web site is for 2.2.6-STABLE. Looks like >very throrough documentation, though. ftp://ftp.kame.net/pub/kame/snap/kame-980928-fbsd227-snap.tgz ~~~~ ~~~~ is the latest KAME kit for FreeBSD 2.2.7-RELEASE. the (underlined) word "snap" does NOT refer to FreeBSD SNAP. This means "a snapshot of our KAME kit". itojun To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Sep 29 20:39:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA13801 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 20:39:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from skynet.ctr.columbia.edu (skynet.ctr.columbia.edu [128.59.64.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA13788; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 20:39:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wpaul@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu) Received: (from wpaul@localhost) by skynet.ctr.columbia.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id XAA12955; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 23:44:06 -0400 From: Bill Paul Message-Id: <199809300344.XAA12955@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu> Subject: Re: 2nd call for testers for RealTek 8139 driver To: SteveFriedrich@Hot-Shot.com Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 23:44:05 -0400 (EDT) Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199809300220.WAA15912@laker.net> from "Steve Friedrich" at Sep 29, 98 10:19:53 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world, Steve Friedrich had to walk into mine and say: > On Tue, 29 Sep 1998 19:11:50 -0400 (EDT), Bill Paul wrote: > > >C'mon guys: there's got to be a few of you > >lurking out there who got stuck with some of these cheap cards. > > Actually, a couple years ago I read a NIC ReadMe from Slackware Linux > where the device driver guys were explaining defects about many > so-called NE2000 clones. I've also been running Windows NT and OS/2 > since they came out, since I'm in the profession. Therefore, I > wouldn't touch a $29 NIC for any reason. If all I ever ran was > Winblows and Netware, I might. But I've got better things to do with > my time... The 8139 isn't an NE2000 clone. RealTek does make NE2000 clone cards, but those use the 8029 and 8039 chips, which are 10Mbps only. The 8129 and 8139 are fast ethernet controllers (the difference between them is the 8129 uses an external physical interface chip whereas the 8139 has one built in). > I do hope you find some testers, but I'd rather pay a little more to > get a board from a quality , name-brand source, that follows reasonable > engineering practices, that piss away my time wrestling with some > bullshit, "we cut corners that we shouldn't of", "you'll never find a > name on this board" bargain bin NIC. I agree with you that people should use better quality hardware. However it also annoys me when people complain that FreeBSD doesn't have a driver for their cheapo hardware while Linux does. Even if the hardware sucks, it's still nice to have driver support for it, and if the driver can't be drop dead fast it should at least be reliable. -Bill -- ============================================================================= -Bill Paul (212) 854-6020 | System Manager, Master of Unix-Fu Work: wpaul@ctr.columbia.edu | Center for Telecommunications Research Home: wpaul@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu | Columbia University, New York City ============================================================================= "It is not I who am crazy; it is I who am mad!" - Ren Hoek, "Space Madness" ============================================================================= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Sep 29 20:39:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA13878 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 20:39:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Genesis.Denninger.Net (kdhome-2.pr.mcs.net [205.164.6.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA13858 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 20:39:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from karl@Genesis.Denninger.Net) Received: (from karl@localhost) by Genesis.Denninger.Net (8.9.1/8.8.2) id WAA02592; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 22:39:11 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <19980929223911.A2555@Denninger.Net> Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 22:39:11 -0500 From: Karl Denninger To: stox@enteract.com, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Exabyte 8500 in low density (2GB) mode... How? References: <19980929142441.A1359@Denninger.Net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: ; from Kenneth P. Stox on Tue, Sep 29, 1998 at 10:08:51PM -0500 Organization: Karl's Sushi and Packet Smashers Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Sep 29, 1998 at 10:08:51PM -0500, Kenneth P. Stox wrote: > > On Tue, 29 Sep 1998, Karl Denninger wrote: > > > I don't believe an 8500 CAN write 8200 format. > > > > It can READ 8200 format, but not write it. There are differences in track > > density and head gap size, and as such I don't believe this is even > > physically possible. > > An 8500 can write in 8200 density just fine. Reliably reading that tape on > an 8200 is another question entirely. The 8500 writes a far narrower track > than the 8200. > > Although this represents a challenge, it is not impossible. If the tape > has never been used on an 8200, and then written on the 8500, chances are > it will work. However, if the tape had previously been written on an 8200, > the 8500 will never completely erase the data left in the wider tracks by > the 8200. When this tape is then written on the 8500 ( in 8200 density ) > and mounted on an 8200, the 8200 can become confused by the "old" data > left on the outside of the narrower tracks. > > -Ken Stox > stox@enteract.com > stox@fnal.gov In other words: Bulk erase the tape, write it, and then immediately read it on the 8200. That's what I thought. Interchange was a problem. -- -- Karl Denninger (karl@denninger.net) http://www.mcs.net/~karl I ain't even *authorized* to speak for anyone other than myself, so give up now on trying to associate my words with any particular organization. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Sep 29 22:52:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA28325 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 22:52:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA28320 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 22:52:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id EAA07436; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 04:51:59 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199809300351.EAA07436@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: graphic tablet experiecne ? To: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 04:51:58 +0100 (MET) Cc: mgp-users@mew.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG does anyone have experience with graphic tablets -- particularly with cheap serial units ? i have tried one (a kid's model, "Wacky pad") and it seems not to talk any protocol recognized by moused. This one seems to talk at 9600, emits 5-byte strings with some strange absolute coordinate encoding which i managed to translate into a reasonable x,y format with a little bit of debugging, but i am wondering if there is some standard about this. [why i am looking at this ? to make use of the 'jotting' mode in mgp!] thanks luigi -----------------------------+-------------------------------------- Luigi Rizzo | Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione email: luigi@iet.unipi.it | Universita' di Pisa tel: +39-50-568533 | via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) fax: +39-50-568522 | http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ _____________________________|______________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Sep 29 23:25:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA02660 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 23:25:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA02655 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 23:25:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA20143; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 23:13:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) To: Drew Baxter cc: Mike , Nicholas Charles Brawn , "Micro.Softs &" , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Hi good cracker In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 29 Sep 1998 20:25:43 EDT." <4.1.0.67.19980929202415.00a35730@genesis.ispace.com> Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 23:13:08 -0700 Message-ID: <20139.907135988@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG People. Don't you think it's time we ENDED THIS STUPID THREAD in -hackers now? Yan is absolutely correct and I don't know what's worse; one weenie posting a message about wanting to hack his system or 50 weenies all posting public follow-ups about what a weenie he is. Do you all see the sense in that? I certainly don't! :-) Please folks, when someone spams us or posts an inordinately stupid or inappropriate question to the wrong list, follow up PERSONALLY to the poster in question and DELETE THE CC LINE ENTIRELY. That way we can all still get the warm fuzzies from knowing that people are *silently* flaming the individual in question without actually having to read the flames in a public mailing list. Thank you! - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Sep 29 23:54:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA08760 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 23:54:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dt053nb4.san.rr.com (dt053nb4.san.rr.com [204.210.34.180]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA08742 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 23:54:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@dal.net) Received: from dal.net (Studded@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dt053nb4.san.rr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA02030 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 23:54:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@dal.net) Message-ID: <3611D58F.6A4D4AF@dal.net> Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 23:54:07 -0700 From: Studded Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.7-STABLE-0929 i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: The Subject: Re: COMPAT_43 References: <360D4E83.8B656BC9@dal.net> <19980926232622.55098@follo.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Eivind Eklund wrote: > > On Sat, Sep 26, 1998 at 01:28:51PM -0700, Studded wrote: > > I'm curious as to whether/how much the COMPAT_43 option is still needed > > in a modern system. Before someone says, "Why don't you take it out and > > find out for yourself?" I would be glad to do that and report the > > results (after the release of course) if someone could state with > > reasonable assurance that most things would still work. :) > > Most things would still work. Indeed. I was fine right up till the time I tried to access the internet with a perl program. Then I got the following error: Address family not supported by protocol family aka EAFNOSUPPORT 47 This was with using the perl 5.00502 port on -Stable. I realize this isn't high on anyone's list of things to fix, but I thought I'd mention it. :) Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Sep 30 00:23:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA12258 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 00:23:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from coconut.itojun.org (coconut.itojun.org [210.160.95.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA12250 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 00:23:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from itojun@itojun.org) Received: from localhost (itojun@localhost.itojun.org [127.0.0.1]) by coconut.itojun.org (8.8.8+3.0Wbeta12/3.6W) with ESMTP id QAA01729; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 16:23:18 +0900 (JST) To: mgp-users@mew.org cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: luigi's message of Wed, 30 Sep 1998 14:52:54 JST. <199809300351.EAA07436@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> X-Template-Reply-To: itojun@itojun.org X-Template-Return-Receipt-To: itojun@itojun.org X-PGP-Fingerprint: F8 24 B4 2C 8C 98 57 FD 90 5F B4 60 79 54 16 E2 Subject: Re: (mgp-users 00027) graphic tablet experiecne ? From: Jun-ichiro itojun Itoh Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 16:23:18 +0900 Message-ID: <1726.907140198@coconut.itojun.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >does anyone have experience with graphic tablets -- particularly with >cheap serial units ? >i have tried one (a kid's model, "Wacky pad") and it seems not to talk >any protocol recognized by moused. This one seems to talk at 9600, >emits 5-byte strings with some strange absolute coordinate encoding >which i managed to translate into a reasonable x,y format with a little >bit of debugging, but i am wondering if there is some standard about >this. I have never heard about standards, but GIMP people may know something about tablets. >[why i am looking at this ? to make use of the 'jotting' mode in mgp!] You may want to look at contrib/xmindpath, which sniffs serial input and raise X11 event. In this way you can use the tablet as generic mouse device. itojun To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Sep 30 00:57:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA18270 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 00:57:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from skraldespand.demos.su (skraldespand.demos.su [194.87.5.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA18264 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 00:56:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mishania@skraldespand.demos.su) Received: by skraldespand.demos.su id LAA19421; (8.8.8/D) Wed, 30 Sep 1998 11:55:53 +0400 (MSD) Message-ID: <19980930115552.33484@demos.su> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 11:55:52 +0400 From: "Mikhail A. Sokolov" To: Jim Flowers Cc: Jun-ichiro itojun Itoh , freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: IPsec for 3.0beta / KAME for 2.2.7 where? References: <01bdec21$a6aa5aa0$858266ce@violet.ezo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In-Reply-To: <01bdec21$a6aa5aa0$858266ce@violet.ezo.net>; from Jim Flowers on Tue, Sep 29, 1998 at 11:23:11PM -0400 Organization: Demos Company, Ltd., Moscow, Russian Federation. X-Point-of-View: Gravity is myth, - the earth sucks. X-Useless-Header: Look ma! It's a # sign! Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Sep 29, 1998 at 11:23:11PM -0400, Jim Flowers wrote: at www.kame.net, of course. # Could you let me know where to get the KAME kit for 2.2.7-RELEASE systems. # The only thing I can find on the web site is for 2.2.6-STABLE. Looks like # very throrough documentation, though. # # -----Original Message----- # From: Jun-ichiro itojun Itoh # To: Stephanie Wehner # Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG # Date: Tuesday, September 29, 1998 4:48 AM # Subject: Re: IPsec for 3.0beta # # > # > I did not followed the thread, but just to let you know... # > # > We got IPv6/IPsec stack called KAME, for 2.2.7-RELEASE systems. # # # To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org # with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message -- -mishania To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Sep 30 01:02:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA19220 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 01:02:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Thingol.KryptoKom.DE (Thingol.KryptoKom.DE [194.245.91.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA19133 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 01:02:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Etienne.Debruin@KryptoKom.DE) Received: (from mail@localhost) by Thingol.KryptoKom.DE (8.8.7/8.8.4) id JAA10256 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 09:54:51 +0200 Received: from cirdan.kryptokom.de by via smtpp (Version 1.1.1b4) id kwa10254; Wed Sep 30 09:54:43 1998 Received: by Cirdan.KryptoKom.DE (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA05067 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 09:59:41 +0200 Original: Received: (from debruin@localhost) by borg.kryptokom.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA03170 for freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 09:59:34 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from debruin) From: Etienne de Bruin Message-Id: <199809300759.JAA03170@borg.kryptokom.de> Subject: DATA_SET and SYSINIT question To: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG (Hackers FreeBSD) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 09:59:33 +0200 (CEST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greetings, I have the following questions: 1. in pci device drivers, what exactely does DATA_SET() do? 2. in device drivers, what exactely does SYSINIT() do? 3. should i do a DATA_SET() AND a SYSINIT() for a pci device driver? Regards eT -- Etienne de Bruin, KryptoKom(R), Aachen, Germany. Contact: eT@kryptokom.de OR edebruin@iname.com OR +49 241 963 2635(w). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Sep 30 01:23:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA22485 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 01:23:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from manchester.genrad.com (x183.genrad.co.uk [195.99.3.183]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA22478 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 01:23:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swindellsr@genrad.co.uk) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 01:23:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809300823.BAA22478@hub.freebsd.org> Received: from CDP275.uk.genrad.com by manchester.genrad.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.0.1460.8) id T6JPGS75; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 09:22:46 +0100 From: Robert Swindells To: luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it CC: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, mgp-users@mew.org In-reply-to: <199809300351.EAA07436@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> (message from Luigi Rizzo on Wed, 30 Sep 1998 04:51:58 +0100 (MET)) Subject: Re: graphic tablet experiecne ? Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >does anyone have experience with graphic tablets -- particularly with >cheap serial units ? No experience, but I have poked around a bit in case I needed to implement some touchscreen support. >i have tried one (a kid's model, "Wacky pad") and it seems not to talk >any protocol recognized by moused. This one seems to talk at 9600, >emits 5-byte strings with some strange absolute coordinate encoding >which i managed to translate into a reasonable x,y format with a little >bit of debugging, but i am wondering if there is some standard about >this. Is there anything like it in the supported mice for XFree86 ? Robert To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Sep 30 01:43:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA24360 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 01:43:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from proxy.grad.kiev.ua (grad-UTC-28k8.ukrtel.net [195.5.25.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA24344 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 01:43:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Ruslan@Shevchenko.Kiev.UA) Received: from Shevchenko.Kiev.UA (cam [10.0.0.50]) by proxy.grad.kiev.ua (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA20082; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 11:43:49 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from Ruslan@Shevchenko.Kiev.UA) Message-ID: <3611ED98.A315FE24@Shevchenko.Kiev.UA> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 11:36:40 +0300 From: Ruslan Shevchenko Reply-To: rssh@grad.kiev.ua X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.5-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Drew Baxter CC: Adam , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Hi good cracker References: <4.1.0.67.19980929141923.0091ee30@genesis.ispace.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Drew Baxter wrote: > please, s/hackers/chat/ in headers. thanks > This is the icing on the cake.. Across the weekend some guy was looking for > a crack to the Mp3Play.ocx Mp3 ActiveX Control.... Windows users with bad > english, I think Microsoft needs an "Interactive English" cd instead of > building crappy OS's. > > At 08:16 AM 9/29/98 -0500, Adam wrote: > ?Weenie of the Week. Everyday I think I meet someone dumber than the > ?last.. You are likely dumber than all the future dummies. > ? > ?Get life. > ? > ? > ? > ?At 05:00 PM 9/29/98 +0500, you wrote: > ??HI !!! > ??Say me please ! > ??Write possible crack my provider? > ??I have SLIP,PPP and IP address. I have login and passwd, but I want know > ??him root passwd? Help me please for this queastions. > ??My e-mail: appolon@elcat2.bishkek.su or him. > ?? > ??Best regards Rinat. > ?? > ?? > ??To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > ??with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message > ?? > ? > ? > ?To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > ?with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message > > --- > Drew "Droobie" Baxter > Network Admin/Professional Computer Nerd(TM) > OneEX: The OneNetwork Exchange 207-942-0275 > http://www.droo.orland.me.us > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message -- @= //RSSH mailto:Ruslan@Shevchenko.Kiev.UA CORBA in Ukraine & ex-USSR: http://www.corbadev.kiev.ua To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Sep 30 02:11:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA28815 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 02:11:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mrelay.jrc.it (mrelay.jrc.it [139.191.1.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA28798 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 02:11:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nick.hibma@jrc.it) Received: from elect8 (elect8.jrc.it [139.191.71.152]) by mrelay.jrc.it (LMC5692) with SMTP id LAA04241; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 11:07:50 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 11:07:48 +0200 (MET DST) From: Nick Hibma X-Sender: n_hibma@elect8 Reply-To: Nick Hibma To: Robert Swindells cc: luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, mgp-users@mew.org Subject: Re: graphic tablet experiecne ? In-Reply-To: <199809300823.BAA22478@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > >does anyone have experience with graphic tablets -- particularly with > >cheap serial units ? If you have the exact model number I can try and have a look in the ARC view manual. If you have a fax number I can mail you an example of a graphic tablet we had in my old Unit. That was a very strange encoding but in the end I got it to work. Would take me some time to figure out though. Nik > > No experience, but I have poked around a bit in case I needed to > implement some touchscreen support. > > >i have tried one (a kid's model, "Wacky pad") and it seems not to talk > >any protocol recognized by moused. This one seems to talk at 9600, > >emits 5-byte strings with some strange absolute coordinate encoding > >which i managed to translate into a reasonable x,y format with a little > >bit of debugging, but i am wondering if there is some standard about > >this. > > Is there anything like it in the supported mice for XFree86 ? > > Robert > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message > -- building: 27A address: STA-ISIS, T.P.270, Joint Research Centre, 21020 Ispra, Italy tel.: +39 332 78 9549 fax.: +39 332 78 9185 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Sep 30 02:15:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA29545 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 02:15:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mailgate.cadence.com (mailgate.Cadence.COM [158.140.2.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA29531 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 02:15:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dmlb@ragnet.demon.co.uk) Received: (from smap@localhost) by mailgate.cadence.com (8.8.5/8.6.8) id CAA08562; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 02:15:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809300915.CAA08562@mailgate.cadence.com> Received: from symnt3.cadence.com(194.32.101.100) by mailgate.cadence.com via smap (mjr-v1.2) id xma907146927.008554; Wed, 30 Sep 98 02:15:27 -0700 Received: from pc287-cam.cadence.com (d194032096136.Cadence.COM [194.32.96.136]) by symnt3.Cadence.COM with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.1960.3) id Q4J1BV20; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 10:15:46 +0100 Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Duncan Barclay" To: Jun-ichiro itojun Itoh Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 10:15:08 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: (mgp-users 00027) graphic tablet experiecne ? Reply-to: dmlb@ragnet.demon.co.uk CC: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG References: luigi's message of Wed, 30 Sep 1998 14:52:54 JST. <199809300351.EAA07436@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> In-reply-to: <1726.907140198@coconut.itojun.org> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > >does anyone have experience with graphic tablets -- particularly with > >cheap serial units ? > >i have tried one (a kid's model, "Wacky pad") and it seems not to talk > >any protocol recognized by moused. moused is for mice;-) > >This one seems to talk at 9600, > >emits 5-byte strings with some strange absolute coordinate encoding > >which i managed to translate into a reasonable x,y format with a little > >bit of debugging, but i am wondering if there is some standard about > >this. I've just bought a Wacom Pen Partner and it works fine under X. You need to read the XF86Config man page and the XInput sections. Try looking at http://www.dorsai.org/~stasic/wacomx.htm The protcols that pads use are not mouse protocols. Wacom publish theirs in the developers section on the German site, but not on the US site. X supports Suma, Wacom and some one else's I think. The cheap no name brands may be Wacom protocols (5 bytes is about right) as Wacom sell the ICs to OEMs. > You may want to look at contrib/xmindpath, which sniffs serial > input and raise X11 event. In this way you can use the tablet > as generic mouse device. I'm currently hacking the X code to become a user land dameon which will generate some, but not all, X11 events (or others, it could go in moused). The only real way of using the pad as the mouse is with the X input extension. You can get the tablet to be the mouse for general use, in applications they can get extra information such as pressure. Apparenetly GIMP can use this and the above URL has a little pressure sensitive drawing program. Duncan PS. Using absolute mode to move around the display is very strange but you get used to it! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Sep 30 02:59:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA04660 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 02:59:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns1.yes.no (ns1.yes.no [195.204.136.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA04655 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 02:59:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eivind@bitbox.follo.net) Received: from bitbox.follo.net (bitbox.follo.net [195.204.143.218]) by ns1.yes.no (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA06600; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 11:59:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from eivind@localhost) by bitbox.follo.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) id LAA02053; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 11:59:06 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19980930115906.36170@follo.net> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 11:59:06 +0200 From: Eivind Eklund To: Etienne de Bruin , Hackers FreeBSD Subject: Re: DATA_SET and SYSINIT question References: <199809300759.JAA03170@borg.kryptokom.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: <199809300759.JAA03170@borg.kryptokom.de>; from Etienne de Bruin on Wed, Sep 30, 1998 at 09:59:33AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Sep 30, 1998 at 09:59:33AM +0200, Etienne de Bruin wrote: > Greetings, > > I have the following questions: > > 1. in pci device drivers, what exactely does DATA_SET() do? DATA_SET() does the same in all drivers - it register in , using the syntax DATA_SET(, ); The code for {TEXT,DATA,BSS,ABS}_SET() is in src/sys/sys/kernel.h > 2. in device drivers, what exactely does SYSINIT() do? Registers init functions, ie functions that are to be called as part of the initialization procedure. See the header file mentioned above and sys/kern/init_main.c for relevant code. > 3. should i do a DATA_SET() AND a SYSINIT() for a pci device driver? Depends on what you want to accomplish. Usually, no. And one question you forgot to ask, but probably is the one you really mean: 4. What should I do to make my shiny new PCI-device be probed by the PCI-code? A: You should create a struct pci_device with suitable probe() and attach() functions, and register this in the pcidevice_set using DATA_SET(pcidevice_set, my_device); With this, your probe() function will be called when the PCI-code is trying to find a suitable driver, and your attach function will be called at the relevant point. Eivind. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Sep 30 03:19:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA08112 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 03:19:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from magc.cd.2573.savbank.ru (h26.216.elnet.msk.ru [194.190.216.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA08087 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 03:19:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mag@h26.216.elnet.msk.ru) Received: from magc.cd.2573.savbank.ru (magc.cd.2573.savbank.ru [172.16.201.254]) by magc.cd.2573.savbank.ru (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA16215 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 14:21:20 +0300 Message-ID: <3612142F.A08DFB72@magc.cd.2573.savbank.ru> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 14:21:19 +0300 From: MAG X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.35 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Pthreads question Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------3D88233953CC4F4DC3B4A595" Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --------------3D88233953CC4F4DC3B4A595 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I want to install KARPSKI on my FreeBSD 2.2.6 but I cannot find pthreads lib. Help me, please, to find it. -- Malinin A. G. --------------3D88233953CC4F4DC3B4A595 Content-Type: text/html; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit     I want to install KARPSKI on my FreeBSD 2.2.6 but I cannot find pthreads lib.
Help me, please, to find it. 
-- 
Malinin A. G.
  --------------3D88233953CC4F4DC3B4A595-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Sep 30 04:19:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA15957 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 04:19:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA15949 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 04:19:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id KAA07897; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 10:17:54 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199809300917.KAA07897@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: (mgp-users 00027) graphic tablet experiecne ? To: dmlb@ragnet.demon.co.uk Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 10:17:54 +0100 (MET) Cc: itojun@iijlab.net, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199809300915.CAA08562@mailgate.cadence.com> from "Duncan Barclay" at Sep 30, 98 10:14:49 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I've just bought a Wacom Pen Partner and it works fine under X. You > need to read the XF86Config man page and the XInput sections. Try > looking at thanks everybody for the input (http://www.wacomp.de/ is the address for german wacom.) luigi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Sep 30 06:41:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA02627 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 06:41:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from lab321.ru (anonymous1.omsk.net.ru [62.76.128.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA02615 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 06:41:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kev@lab321.ru) Received: from www.lab321.ru (kev@www.lab321.ru [62.76.129.65]) by lab321.ru (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id UAA19658 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 20:40:42 +0700 (OSS) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 20:40:42 +0700 (OSS) From: Eugeny Kuzakov To: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Oracle for Linux under FreeBSD Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is anyone tryed ? svrmgrl permanently core dumps... -- Best wishes, Eugeny Kuzakov Laboratory 321 ( Omsk, Russia ) kev@lab321.ru ICQ#: 5885106 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Sep 30 07:09:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA06945 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 07:09:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.uninet.ee (ns.uninet.ee [194.204.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA06825 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 07:08:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from taavi@uninet.ee) Received: from localhost (taavi@localhost) by ns.uninet.ee (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA15903; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 17:07:00 +0300 (EEST) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 17:07:00 +0300 (EEST) From: Taavi Talvik To: Eugeny Kuzakov cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Oracle for Linux under FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 30 Sep 1998, Eugeny Kuzakov wrote: > Is anyone tryed ? > svrmgrl permanently core dumps... At least sqlplus works. Wich is allready quite a win. Does anyone have pointers to working linux_kdump? One in current ports is marked as broken for ${OSVERSION} >= 300000 ? best regards, taavi ----------------------------------------------------------- Taavi Talvik | Internet: taavi@uninet.ee Unineti Andmeside AS | phone: +372 6405150 Ravala pst. 10-412 | fax: +372 6405151 EE0001, Tallinn, Estonia | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Sep 30 07:58:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA15096 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 07:58:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from at.dotat.com (zed.dotat.com [203.38.154.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA15083; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 07:58:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hart@at.dotat.com) Received: from at.dotat.com (localhost.dotat.com [127.0.0.1]) by at.dotat.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA15771; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 00:29:33 +0930 (CST) Message-Id: <199809301459.AAA15771@at.dotat.com> To: freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: 802.1Q VLAN support Reply-to: hart@dotat.com Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 00:29:32 +0930 From: Leigh Hart Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm developing some single board computer applications that require 802.1Q vlan support (of the simplest kind) and in trawling through these list archives I found mention of if_vlan.c ...: /* * ... * ... * ... * * $Id: if_vlan.c,v 1.3 1998/08/23 03:07:10 wollman Exp $ */ /* * if_vlan.c - pseudo-device driver for IEEE 802.1Q virtual LANs. * Might be extended some day to also handle IEEE 802.1p priority * tagging. This is sort of sneaky in the implementation, since * we need to pretend to be enough of an Ethernet implementation * to make arp work. The way we do this is by telling everyone * that we are an Ethernet, and then catch the packets that * ether_output() left on our output queue queue when it calls * if_start(), rewrite them for use by the real outgoing interface, * and ask it to send them. */ This is about all I can find in the kernel-current source tree that relates to 802.1Q - there's little or no documentation I can find that tells me how to start using this code...(god help me if it's there and I havn't looked hard enough :[) Any pointers to /dev/obvious gratefully accepted... PS - my work with 802.1Q has found that, despite the current draft spec suggesting that each vendor should decide on their own what to do about the problem of having a larger frame size due to the extra 4 byte VLAN header, most vendors have opted to support an increas by four bytes in the frame size... It should be noted that if FreeBSD is going to support this in any sensible manner, it should start including an option for changing ETHER_MAX_LEN in the kernel, either real time or at compile time... Cheers Leigh -- | "By the time they had diminished | Leigh Hart, | | from 50 to 8, the other dwarves | Dotat Communications Pty Ltd | | began to suspect 'Hungry' ..." | GPO Box 487 Adelaide SA 5001 | | -- Gary Larson, "The Far Side" | http://www.dotat.com/hart/ | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Sep 30 08:36:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA19901 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 08:36:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sos.freebsd.dk (sos.freebsd.dk [212.242.40.180]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA19886 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 08:36:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sos@sos.freebsd.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by sos.freebsd.dk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA04272; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 17:35:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from sos) Message-Id: <199809301535.RAA04272@sos.freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: Oracle for Linux under FreeBSD In-Reply-To: from Eugeny Kuzakov at "Sep 30, 98 08:40:42 pm" To: kev@lab321.ru (Eugeny Kuzakov) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 17:35:49 +0200 (CEST) Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD hackers) From: Sרren Schmidt Reply-to: sos@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In reply to Eugeny Kuzakov who wrote: > > Is anyone tryed ? > svrmgrl permanently core dumps... I'm working on it... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Sרren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org) FreeBSD Core Team Even more code to hack -- will it ever end? .. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Sep 30 10:14:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA06829 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 10:14:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from heathers.stdio.com (heathers.stdio.com [199.89.192.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA06786; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 10:13:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lile@stdio.com) Received: (from lile@localhost) by heathers.stdio.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA10905; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 13:09:05 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 13:09:03 -0400 (EDT) From: "Larry S. Lile" To: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG cc: tokenring@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Almost a FreeBSD Token Ring driver :( [a little long but worth it] Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="1461733264-635564348-907175343=:7512" Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --1461733264-635564348-907175343=:7512 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Off and on for the last year I have been working on a token ring driver for IBM shared ram adapters under FreeBSD current. After a lot of questions to hackers, IBM and others who know about token ring I have got a driver that almost works. It has been based on the Mach driver for the old IBM (Ungerman-Bass) token ring cards, which were the first shared ram adapters from IBM. I have finally reached the end of my rope with this driver and if it is going to be finished I need help. The current state of the project is this: tcpdump has been modified to support token ring packets, I have submitted these changes to the LBNL Network Research Group but have not heard anything from them. The changes should be portable to any Un*x. I have patches to FreeBSD's arp code to allow Token Ring to be arp'd just like ethernet. I have created and iso88025.h and if_iso88025subr.c that should genericly support any token ring driver. The input routine appears to work flawlessly and the output routine cannot be fully debugged due to other problems but seems to work ok. Patches have been made to add this code on demand using a psuedo-device token in the kernel configuration. The actual driver for the shared ram adapters almost works. Currently it will perform all of the following functions: o The adapter probe and attach work and have been fairly well tested. o The driver responds properly to all neccesary ifconfig requests (up, down, address, netmask, mtu, ...) o The adapter will enter the ring and receive all packets destined to the interface or broadcast on the ring. (No promisc. mode) o The driver will generate the responses to the packets it receives. Programs like ping will actually generate the right packet in the driver. This works all the way down to actually putting the packet in the adapters shared ram. The problem is that I cannot get the adapter to actually transmit packets. It will generate strange error messages or cause the adapter to issue a check code, but no packets get put on the ring. I have verified this with a sniffer. The code is fairly dirty and I need to clean it up but the problems I have had getting the driver to work have led me to making gross hacks. Most of these have been fixed but the code still looks messy. Anyone out there who wants to see token ring should look at the sources and see if they can help out. I have just spent too long looking at this code and become blind to my own errors, not to mention that this is all a little beyond my ability. Please help me out with this, the driver is almost working. Once it starts working cleaning up the code and making it reliable are just a matter of time. I have enclosed all of the code, patch files, dmesg output from the driver, output from tcpdump, tcpdump patches, kernel config patches and the URL to the adapter documentation (thousands of IBM docs are available from the same site). 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hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA08360 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 10:26:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from heathers.stdio.com (heathers.stdio.com [199.89.192.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA08355 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 10:26:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lile@stdio.com) Received: (from lile@localhost) by heathers.stdio.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA11072; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 13:21:41 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 13:21:40 -0400 (EDT) From: "Larry S. Lile" To: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ELF kernel questions Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG What does it take to build and boot from an elf kernel? I actually have need for an elf'd kernel. I would be happy to RTFM but I can't seem to find it. Also does it need the 3-stage boot? and how do I do that if neccesary. Will the LKM interface change with an elf kernel? If it does what are the differences or any examples to look at? I am running 3.0-current (elf) cvsup'd (9/22), made world and elf'd. Larry Lile lile@stdio.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Sep 30 11:38:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA22486 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 11:38:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from att.com (cagw1.att.com [192.128.52.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA22477 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 11:38:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sbabkin@dcn.att.com) From: sbabkin@dcn.att.com Received: from caig1.fw.att.com by cagw1.att.com (AT&T/IPNS/UPAS-1.0) for freebsd.org!hackers sender dcn.att.com!sbabkin (dcn.att.com!sbabkin); Wed Sep 30 14:25 EDT 1998 Received: from dcn71.dcn.att.com ([135.44.192.112]) by caig1.fw.att.com (AT&T/IPNS/GW-1.0) with ESMTP id OAA21261 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 14:34:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: by dcn71.dcn.att.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) id ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 14:33:46 -0400 Message-ID: To: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: babkin@bellatlantic.net Subject: anybody from the XFree86 team here ? Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 14:33:44 -0400 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi! I wonder whether is here anybody from the XFree86 team ? I've tried to contact the former X consortium and the XFree86 group from their websites but got no answer. I still think that the matter is fairly important for X11 i18n, so this is my next try :-) I'm working on conversion of TTF fonts into Type1 format. Actually, all I need is to get some russian scalable fonts :-) Upto now I have found a freeware TTF->T1 converter, fixed a number of bugs in it and added some features to it, wrote a perl script that fixes a number of problems that are typical for available TTF fonts or introduced during conversion (there is still a lot of space for improvement, the next thing I'm working on is autohinting), wrote scripts to convert fonts between different encodings, and created tables for this conversion for all more or less widely used russian encodings (KOI-8R, CP-866, CP-1251, ISO8859/5). Here goes the trouble: The Type1 font library in X11 is INTENTIONALLY BROKEN. It ignores the encoding specification in the font itself and forces all the fonts to use Latin1 encoding. I think, I know the reason: there exist broken font editors (like Fontografer) that specify Adobe Standard encoding but actually use names from the Adobe Latin1 encoding. So, the library parses the encoding table well but then it just throws out the learned encoding table and uses Latin1. And guess what ? Some of the characters used in the russian fonts do not have any names in Adobe Latin1 encoding. Most of them still can be defined using some pathologically dirty trick with reusing the same name for more than one glyph - Fontographer does this, but not the freeware program, and the resulting font works only with the X font library and does not work at all with Ghostscript. This problem can be fixed by a two-line fix that I propose: let's force only Adobe Standard encoded fonts to use Adobe Latin1 encoding and leave alone the fonts with explicitly defined encoding table. Of course, I have fixed my local copy of X sources but it does not enjoy me at all to do that with each next installation. Can it please be fixed in the main X repository ? By the way, I want to submit the results of my work to the free software community and wonder how to do it in the best way: by contributing it to the XFree86 project and/or making a port/package for FreeBSD. I would appreciate also if someone could point me to some russian TTF fonts that are freeware for sure, so that converted versions of them may be included into the distribution. Also, if somebody needs, I have written also the keyboard layouts for XFree86 for all 4 russian encodings. And, finally, pushing my luck :-) : I would like very much to see the characters with codes 0x80-0x9F defined as printable in xterm. Of course, I do that with each copy of xterm I work with, but I would like to see that in the standard distribution. Provided that they were defined to be ignored in X11R6.1 and earlier, that should not hurt anybody. The positive sides of redefinition are: 1. These codes are used for uppercase russian letters in CP866 encoding 2. I hate to `cat' some innocent text and get the xterm completely stuck as it occurs with X11R6.3 where these characters are defined as control characters -Sergey Babkin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Sep 30 12:40:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA04941 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 12:40:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ceia.nordier.com (m1-58-dbn.dial-up.net [196.34.155.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA04912 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 12:40:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rnordier@nordier.com) Received: (from rnordier@localhost) by ceia.nordier.com (8.8.7/8.6.12) id VAA01841; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 21:39:02 +0200 (SAT) From: Robert Nordier Message-Id: <199809301939.VAA01841@ceia.nordier.com> Subject: Re: ELF kernel questions In-Reply-To: from "Larry S. Lile" at "Sep 30, 98 01:21:40 pm" To: lile@stdio.com (Larry S. Lile) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 21:38:59 +0200 (SAT) Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Larry S. Lile wrote: > > What does it take to build and boot from an elf kernel? I actually > have need for an elf'd kernel. I would be happy to RTFM but I can't > seem to find it. Also does it need the 3-stage boot? and how do I > do that if neccesary. Depending on the options defined, it may build straight off, or may need a tweak (such as including when last I checked). I believe the latest version of the new i386 loader is now functional and can probably be expected to be loading ELF kernels any day now. In the meantime, you could use http://www.freebsd.org/~rnordier/btxboot-0.8.1.tar.gz which will boot kernels in either format. I believe there was also some modified-for-ELF standard boot code posted to the lists around a month ago. -- Robert Nordier To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Sep 30 13:03:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA11099 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 13:03:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (osmium.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA11072 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 13:03:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wilko@yedi.iaf.nl) Received: by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl with UUCP id AA11915 (5.67b/IDA-1.5); Wed, 30 Sep 1998 21:29:29 +0200 Received: (from wilko@localhost) by yedi.iaf.nl (8.8.8/8.6.12) id UAA01824; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 20:48:11 +0200 (CEST) From: Wilko Bulte Message-Id: <199809301848.UAA01824@yedi.iaf.nl> Subject: Re: Exabyte 8500 in low density (2GB) mode... How? In-Reply-To: <199809300129.UAA04963@nospam.hiwaay.net> from David Kelly at "Sep 29, 98 08:29:38 pm" To: dkelly@hiwaay.net (David Kelly) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 20:48:11 +0200 (CEST) Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Organisation: Private FreeBSD site - Arnhem, The Netherlands X-Pgp-Info: PGP public key at 'finger wilko@freefall.freebsd.org' X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As David Kelly wrote... > Karl Denninger writes: > > I don't believe an 8500 CAN write 8200 format. > > > > It can READ 8200 format, but not write it. There are differences in track > > density and head gap size, and as such I don't believe this is even > > physically possible. > > The Exabyte 850x family definitely can both read and write the 8200 low > density format. I have a bunch of TTi-branded Exabytes with alphanumeric > displays at work. The display is sorta nice to know how much is left on > the tape. But nicer for quickly identifying low density tapes. > > Another thing I can do with the TTi is override the density setting the > OS tries to use and force density and compression settings. That's handy > with FreeBSD as I haven't figured out how to control it from the FreeBSD > end. As a result all my Exabytes are on Sun and SGI systems. :-( It can be done using 'mt density'. Don't ask me what value you have to feed it, it's been 1.5 years ago I had a 8505 in my machine at work. Wilko _ ______________________________________________________________________ | / o / / _ Bulte email: wilko@yedi.iaf.nl |/|/ / / /( (_) Arnhem, The Netherlands WWW : http://www.tcja.nl ______________________________________________ Powered by FreeBSD __________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Sep 30 13:04:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA11305 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 13:04:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (osmium.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA11277 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 13:04:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wilko@yedi.iaf.nl) Received: by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl with UUCP id AA11903 (5.67b/IDA-1.5); Wed, 30 Sep 1998 21:29:28 +0200 Received: (from wilko@localhost) by yedi.iaf.nl (8.8.8/8.6.12) id UAA01817; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 20:46:43 +0200 (CEST) From: Wilko Bulte Message-Id: <199809301846.UAA01817@yedi.iaf.nl> Subject: Re: Exabyte 8500 in low density (2GB) mode... How? In-Reply-To: <19980929223911.A2555@Denninger.Net> from Karl Denninger at "Sep 29, 98 10:39:11 pm" To: karl@denninger.net (Karl Denninger) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 20:46:43 +0200 (CEST) Cc: stox@enteract.com, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Organisation: Private FreeBSD site - Arnhem, The Netherlands X-Pgp-Info: PGP public key at 'finger wilko@freefall.freebsd.org' X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As Karl Denninger wrote... > On Tue, Sep 29, 1998 at 10:08:51PM -0500, Kenneth P. Stox wrote: > > > > On Tue, 29 Sep 1998, Karl Denninger wrote: > > > > > I don't believe an 8500 CAN write 8200 format. > > > > > > It can READ 8200 format, but not write it. There are differences in track > > > density and head gap size, and as such I don't believe this is even > > > physically possible. > > > > An 8500 can write in 8200 density just fine. Reliably reading that tape on > > an 8200 is another question entirely. The 8500 writes a far narrower track > > than the 8200. Reliability with Exabytes in it's own right is enough stuff for a Phd thesis anyway ;-) > > Although this represents a challenge, it is not impossible. If the tape > > has never been used on an 8200, and then written on the 8500, chances are > > it will work. However, if the tape had previously been written on an 8200, > > the 8500 will never completely erase the data left in the wider tracks by > > the 8200. When this tape is then written on the 8500 ( in 8200 density ) > > and mounted on an 8200, the 8200 can become confused by the "old" data > > left on the outside of the narrower tracks. > > > > -Ken Stox > > stox@enteract.com > > stox@fnal.gov > > In other words: > > Bulk erase the tape, write it, and then immediately read it on the 8200. > > That's what I thought. Interchange was a problem. Residual data 'just outside' the 8500 trackwidth can indeed be a problem. Although I myself had reasonable good luck with 8200 (at home) and 8505 (at work) interchanges. Wilko _ ______________________________________________________________________ | / o / / _ Bulte email: wilko@yedi.iaf.nl |/|/ / / /( (_) Arnhem, The Netherlands WWW : http://www.tcja.nl ______________________________________________ Powered by FreeBSD __________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Sep 30 13:45:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA19737 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 13:45:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hp9000.chc-chimes.com (hp9000.chc-chimes.com [206.67.97.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA19582 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 13:45:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billf@chc-chimes.com) Received: from localhost by hp9000.chc-chimes.com with SMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA179944193; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 12:49:53 -0400 Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 12:49:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Fumerola To: Taavi Talvik Cc: Eugeny Kuzakov , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Oracle for Linux under FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 30 Sep 1998, Taavi Talvik wrote: > Does anyone have pointers to working linux_kdump? One in > current ports is marked as broken for ${OSVERSION} >= 300000 ? That means it's waiting for -CURRENT, if I'm not mistaken. - bill fumerola [root/billf]@chc-chimes.com - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800)252.2421 x128 / bfumerol@computerhorizons.com - BF1560 - "Logic, like whiskey, loses its beneficial effect when taken in too large quantities" -Lord Dunsany To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Sep 30 14:33:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA01380 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 14:33:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ics.com (ics.com [140.186.40.192]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA01347 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 14:33:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kaleb@ics.com) Received: from ics.com (sunoco.ics.com [140.186.40.142]) by ics.com (8.9.0.Beta5/8.9.0.Beta5) with ESMTP id RAA13391; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 17:32:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3612A380.5A1E9F1C@ics.com> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 17:32:48 -0400 From: "Kaleb S. KEITHLEY" Organization: Integrated Computer Solutions X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5b2 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG CC: devel@xfree86.org Subject: Re: anybody from the XFree86 team here ? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG sbabkin@dcn.att.com wrote: > > I've tried to > contact the former X consortium but got no answer. Not surprising, given that the X Consortium has been out of business since the end of 1996. The Open Group took over starting January 1st, 1997. > I still think that the matter is fairly important > for X11 i18n, so this is my next try :-) > > I'm working on conversion of TTF fonts into Type1 format. I have to wonder why you want to go this way, when at this point in time just about everyone is using the new TrueType fontserver. And before too long XFree86 will release servers that can use TTF fonts directly. > Actually, all > I need is to get some russian scalable fonts :-) > > The Type1 font library in X11 is INTENTIONALLY BROKEN. I agree, it sounds like it may be broken. I question your motives for yelling about it being intentionally broken -- it almost certainly wasn't intentional, at least not in the nefarious way that your shouting about it might tend to imply. > It ignores the encoding specification in the font itself and forces all > the > fonts to use Latin1 encoding. I think, I know the reason: there exist > broken font editors (like Fontografer) that specify Adobe Standard > encoding but actually use names from the Adobe Latin1 encoding. > So, the library parses the encoding table well but then it just throws > out the learned encoding table and uses Latin1. Sounds like a reasonable analysis. Out of curiosity, what does Adobe's Type1 specification say, if anything, about it? > And guess what ? Some of the characters used in the russian fonts > do not have any names in Adobe Latin1 encoding. Amazing. I'd never have guessed. ;-) > This problem can be fixed by a two-line fix that I propose: let's > force only Adobe Standard encoded fonts to use Adobe Latin1 > encoding and leave alone the fonts with explicitly defined > encoding table. > > Of course, I have fixed my local copy of X sources but it does > not enjoy me at all to do that with each next installation. > > Can it please be fixed in the main X repository ? Get a bug-report template (the file named "bug-report") from your copy of the X11R6.x sources, or from the XFree86 sources, or from ftp://ftp.x.org/pub/R6.4/xc/bug-report (when it's back up). Fill it out and email it to xbugs@opengroup.org. > Also, if somebody needs, I have written also the keyboard layouts > for XFree86 for all 4 russian encodings. What is it about the character encoding that changes the keyboard layout? (Hint: Nothing! That the lower eight bits of the keysym aren't correct for KOI8-R or CP866 is irrelevent.) What was wrong with the Russian keyboard layout(s) that were already in both the sample implementation releases and in XFree86's releases? If there are Russian keyboards whose layout doesn't match any of the layouts included in either of the releases, then it's worth submitting a separate bug-report for those. > And, finally, pushing my luck :-) : I would like very much to see > the characters with codes 0x80-0x9F defined as printable in > xterm. In CP866, yes; but in the official GOST KOI-8 and ISO8859-5 they're not printable (and yes, I know that nobody in Russia uses ISO8859-5). > Of course, I do that with each copy of xterm I work with, > but I would like to see that in the standard distribution. Provided > that they were defined to be ignored in X11R6.1 and earlier, > that should not hurt anybody. The positive sides of redefinition > are: > 1. These codes are used for uppercase russian letters in CP866 > encoding The sample implementation does not support the old MS-DOS CP866 locale. To my knowledge XFree86 does not either. They only support ISO8859-5 and KOI8-R. To properly support a CP866 locale you'll need to do a lot more than just hack xterm -- Xlib will need a CP866 XLC_LOCALE database, and Xlib itself will need to be fixed to map the X keysyms to CP866 the same way it does for KOI8-R. XFree86 may decide to add CP866 support -- that's their choice. I do question the utility of putting it into the sample implementation, which already has support for the two standard Cyrillic encodings. My suggestion: If you've got a lot of documents in CP866 -- recode them (using GNU recode) into KOI8-R or ISO8859-5. -- Kaleb S. KEITHLEY To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Sep 30 16:54:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA29486 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 16:54:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from banshee.cs.uow.edu.au (banshee.cs.uow.edu.au [130.130.188.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA29372 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 16:54:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ncb05@banshee.cs.uow.edu.au) Received: (from ncb05@localhost) by banshee.cs.uow.edu.au (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id JAA12976; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 09:53:54 +1000 (EST) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 09:53:53 +1000 (EST) From: Nicholas Charles Brawn X-Sender: ncb05@banshee.cs.uow.edu.au To: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: freebsd clustering? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is anyone aware of, or working on an open source clustering "technology" for FreeBSD or *BSD in general? Production-grade SMP is one thing that will be bringing a lot of people over to try out FreeBSD, but imagine what we could do if we could say: "The Walnut Creek Cluster is ranked xxx in the top 500 fastest computers in the world..." :) Let's beat the pants off Beowulf. :) Nick -- Email: ncb@poboxes.com - http://www.poboxes.com/ncb Key fingerprint = DE 30 33 D3 16 91 C8 8D A7 F8 70 03 B7 77 1A 2A "When in doubt, ask someone wiser than yourself..." -unknown To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Sep 30 18:39:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA14910 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 18:39:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA14901 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 18:39:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA04884; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 18:42:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199810010142.SAA04884@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Taavi Talvik cc: Eugeny Kuzakov , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Oracle for Linux under FreeBSD In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 30 Sep 1998 17:07:00 +0300." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 18:42:55 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Wed, 30 Sep 1998, Eugeny Kuzakov wrote: > > > Is anyone tryed ? > > svrmgrl permanently core dumps... > > At least sqlplus works. Wich is allready quite a win. > > Does anyone have pointers to working linux_kdump? One in > current ports is marked as broken for ${OSVERSION} >= 300000 ? I don't even recall being told why it was broken. If I try building it here, it dies when the Linux 'bash' explodes, which is a new one on me. 8( -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Sep 30 19:09:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA18520 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 19:09:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from TYO203.gate.nec.co.jp (TYO203.gate.nec.co.jp [202.32.8.211]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA18515 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 19:09:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shiozaki@ased.mt.nec.co.jp) Received: from mailsv.nec.co.jp (mailsv-le1 [192.168.1.90]) by TYO203.gate.nec.co.jp (8.9.1a/3.7W98092815) with ESMTP id LAA28716 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 11:09:03 +0900 (JST) Received: from asede1.ased.mt.nec.co.jp (asede1.ased.mt.nec.co.jp [133.201.62.3]) by mailsv.nec.co.jp (8.9.1a/3.7W-MAILSV-NEC) with ESMTP id LAA16320 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 11:09:03 +0900 (JST) Received: from mtasedms.ased.mt.nec.co.jp (mtasedms [133.201.62.1]) by asede1.ased.mt.nec.co.jp (8.8.5+2.7Wbeta5/3.5Wbeta) with ESMTP id LAA12235 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 11:11:56 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost ([133.201.213.33]) by mtasedms.ased.mt.nec.co.jp (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 407; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 11:10:13 +0900 To: devel@XFree86.Org Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: anybody from the XFree86 team here ? From: Takuya SHIOZAKI In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 30 Sep 1998 17:32:48 -0400" <3612A380.5A1E9F1C@ics.com> References: <3612A380.5A1E9F1C@ics.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.93 on Emacs 19.28 / Mule 2.3 (SUETSUMUHANA) My-Status: haiboku-in="Aoi MATSUBARA"; bukatsudou="Marsh Mallow Club" For-Your-Information: X-TrueType Server Ver1.0 is available now!! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19981001111023D.shiozaki@ased.mt.nec.co.jp> Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 11:10:23 +0900 (JST) X-Dispatcher: imput version 980905(IM100) Lines: 41 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG From: "Kaleb S. KEITHLEY" Subject: Re: anybody from the XFree86 team here ? Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 17:32:48 -0400 Message-ID: <3612A380.5A1E9F1C@ics.com> > > I still think that the matter is fairly important > > for X11 i18n, so this is my next try :-) It is important that we design and implement better I18N facility for not only X11 but also any Free-Unix. Locale implementation on the Free-Unix is poorer than Commercial-Unix's one (for instance, the locale implementation on Solaris-2.{5,6} is very good). That is fatal to make also I18Nized X11 application, since it seems that X11 and XFree86 prefer to use OS locale basically, instead of X11 own locale facility. Also, that matter often makes us confuse. For example, FreeBSD users in Japan can remember such confusion by seperated libxpg4 from libc. And Linux users in Japan can remember such confusion by changing the standard C library from libc5 to libc6 on some distributions, too. Now Free-Unix locale implementation is not enough to make and use I18N-ized applications. It is the serious probrem for us. > > I'm working on conversion of TTF fonts into Type1 format. > I have to wonder why you want to go this way, when at this point in time > just about everyone is using the new TrueType fontserver. And before too > long XFree86 will release servers that can use TTF fonts directly. FreeBSD ports-current/packages-current has been containing our X-TrueType Server Version1.0 [Aoi MATSUBARA Release 0]. You need only to invoke pkg_add to use TrueType-fied XFree86 Server, based on 3.2.2.3. If you use RedHat Linux, Slacware Linux, Debian GNU/Linux and/or TurboLinux distributions, you can use the X-TT binary packages we have already prepeared, too. -- Takuya SHIOZAKI, the X-TrueType Server project. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Sep 30 21:48:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA10499 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 21:48:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mailhost.clipper.net (mailhost.clipper.net [207.109.253.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA10493 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 21:48:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tim@clipper.net) Received: from localhost (tim@localhost) by mailhost.clipper.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA23917; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 21:48:04 -0700 Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 21:48:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Wolfe To: tom@sdf.com cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Equal Cost/MultiPath Routing Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Tom et al. I see from the list archive that you said: "Also, with the new equal-cost routing patch for FreeBSD, FreeBSD will automatically balance traffic for routes with the same destination and same priority." My question is (possible) an easy one. Where do I find the patches and what version of BSD do I need to use? Thanks, Tim ---------------------------------------------------- Timothy M. Wolfe | Why surf when you can Sail? tim@clipper.net | Join Oregon's Premier Sr. Network Engineer | Wireless Internet Provider! ClipperNet Corporation | http://www.clipper.net/ ---------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Sep 30 22:11:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA13650 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 22:11:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA13635 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 22:11:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA16937; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 22:11:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199810010511.WAA16937@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Nicholas Charles Brawn cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: freebsd clustering? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 01 Oct 1998 09:53:53 +1000." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 22:11:05 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Check out : ftp://ftp.sarnoff.com/pub/mnfs/www/docs/cluster.html Cheers, Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Sep 30 22:53:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA19686 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 22:53:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from h2o.riss-telecom.ru (h2o.riss-telecom.ru [195.9.14.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA19680 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 22:53:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsdl@h2o.riss-telecom.ru) Received: from localhost (bsdl@localhost) by h2o.riss-telecom.ru (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA17473; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 12:51:43 +0700 (NSS) (envelope-from bsdl@h2o.riss-telecom.ru) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 12:51:43 +0700 (NSS) From: Vitaly V Belekhov To: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG cc: tom@sdf.com Subject: Re: Equal Cost/MultiPath Routing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello! Also how about routing with policies based on source address? Is such job exist or we need do it? On Wed, 30 Sep 1998, Tim Wolfe wrote: > Tom et al. > > I see from the list archive that you said: > > "Also, with the new equal-cost routing patch > for FreeBSD, FreeBSD will automatically balance traffic for routes with > the same destination and same priority." > > My question is (possible) an easy one. Where do I find the patches and what > version of BSD do I need to use? > -- Vitaly Belekhov RISS-Telecom, Novosibirsk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Sep 30 22:58:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA20126 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 22:58:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dt053nb4.san.rr.com (dt053nb4.san.rr.com [204.210.34.180]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA20118 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 22:58:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@dal.net) Received: from dal.net (Studded@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dt053nb4.san.rr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA01985; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 22:57:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@dal.net) Message-ID: <361319E5.5375D378@dal.net> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 22:57:57 -0700 From: Studded Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.7-STABLE-0929 i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nicholas Charles Brawn CC: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: freebsd clustering? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Nicholas Charles Brawn wrote: > > Is anyone aware of, or working on an open source clustering "technology" > for FreeBSD or *BSD in general? Before asking a question of this sort, it's good policy to check the archives first. http://www.freebsd.org/search.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Sep 30 23:53:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA29573 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 23:53:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from widefw.csl.sony.co.jp (widefw.csl.sony.co.jp [133.138.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA29567 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 23:53:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kjc@csl.sony.co.jp) Received: from hotaka.csl.sony.co.jp (root@hotaka.csl.sony.co.jp [43.27.98.57]) by widefw.csl.sony.co.jp (8.8.8/3.6W) with ESMTP id PAA09121; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 15:49:51 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (kjc@[127.0.0.1]) by hotaka.csl.sony.co.jp (8.8.8/3.6W/hotaka/98021914) with ESMTP id PAA21961; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 15:49:50 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199810010649.PAA21961@hotaka.csl.sony.co.jp> To: Vitaly V Belekhov cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, tom@sdf.com Subject: Re: Equal Cost/MultiPath Routing In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 01 Oct 1998 12:51:43 +0700." Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 15:49:49 +0900 From: Kenjiro Cho Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG You might want to take a look at Multipath Routing ftp://ftp.flirble.org/pub/unix/hacks/FreeBSD/mpath.b3.tgz by Chrisy Luke . mpath comes with two functions; Multipath routing and Firewall rule-based packet forwarding, where firewall rules can change the next-hop of packets that match them. When you don't set firewall rules, it does load-balancing. --kj Vitaly V Belekhov said: >> Hello! >> Also how about routing with policies based on source address? >> Is such job exist or we need do it? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Oct 1 04:25:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA02388 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 04:25:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from relay1.bcs.zp.ua (bcs-ts33.zcn.net [195.123.8.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA02361 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 04:25:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from serg@bcs.zp.ua) Received: from bcs3.bcs.zp.ua (bcs3.bcs.zp.ua [195.123.10.73]) by relay1.bcs.zp.ua (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA25564 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 14:24:54 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from serg@localhost) by bcs3.bcs.zp.ua (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA27243 for hackers@freebsd.org; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 14:24:51 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from serg) From: Sergey Shkonda Message-Id: <199810011124.OAA27243@bcs3.bcs.zp.ua> Subject: Locale files for KOI8-U (RFC 2319) To: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 14:24:51 +0300 (EEST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL45 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG There are locale files for KOI8-U and screen fonts. 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Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-scsi@Freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org References: <19980929114402.9912.qmail@modgud.nordicdms.com> <86g1d9ab83.fsf@samizdat.uucom.com> <19980930192132.D11002@pavilion.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <19980930192132.D11002@pavilion.net>; from Josef Karthauser on Wed, Sep 30, 1998 at 07:21:32PM +0100 X-NCC-RegID: uk.pavilion Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I'm doing some work with chio and amanda under CAM and I've discovered what appears to be a bug :) chio.c: --- chio.c 1998/09/15 07:48:51 1.7 +++ chio.c 1998/10/01 12:36:19 @@ -405,6 +405,8 @@ if (data.cp_nportals) (void) printf(", %d portal%s", data.cp_nportals, (data.cp_nportals > 1) ? "s" : ""); + printf("\n%s: current picker: %d\n", changer_name, data.cp_curpicker); + return (0); Oops I think. Can someone either put the offending line back in, or expain why it shouldn't be there. Thanks :) Joe -- Josef Karthauser Technical Manager FreeBSD: The power to serve (http://www.uk.freebsd.org) Pavilion Internet plc. [joe@pavilion.net, joe@uk.freebsd.org, joe@tao.org.uk] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Oct 1 05:48:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA12197 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 05:48:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from darau.kada.lan ([195.22.170.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA12115; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 05:47:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dara@kada.lt) Received: from kada.lt (localhost.kada.lt [127.0.0.1]) by darau.kada.lan (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA02933; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 14:50:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from dara@kada.lt) Message-ID: <36137A95.3B6AE583@kada.lt> Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 14:50:29 +0200 From: Darius Ramanauskas X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5b2 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.7-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG CC: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Oracle8 for Linux (Linux emulation) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello All, I'm trying to run Oracle 8.0.5 beta for Linux on FBSD 2.2.7. Linux emulation in rc.conf is YES, linux_lib 2.4 is installed, binaries is branded, but then I try to start it say: libm.so.6 not found :( Any suggestions are welcome Thank you. Darius To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Oct 1 06:10:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA14704 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 06:10:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from p400.webwizard.net.mx (dns.webwizard.com.mx [148.245.50.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA14649 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 06:09:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eculp@webwizard.org.mx) Received: from webwizard.org.mx (dns.webwizard.com.mx [148.245.50.27]) by p400.webwizard.net.mx (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA26219; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 08:03:01 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from eculp@webwizard.org.mx) Message-ID: <36137D85.14968D1@webwizard.org.mx> Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 08:03:01 -0500 From: Edwin Culp X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5b2 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-BETA i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tim Wolfe CC: tom@sdf.com, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Equal Cost/MultiPath Routing References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Tim Wolfe wrote: > Tom et al. > > I see from the list archive that you said: > > "Also, with the new equal-cost routing patch > for FreeBSD, FreeBSD will automatically balance traffic for routes with > the same destination and same priority." > > My question is (possible) an easy one. Where do I find the patches and what > version of BSD do I need to use? > > Thanks, > > Tim > > There is probably a lot of interest in this. I just set a private mail to Chrisy Luke . asking if there were patches for current/elf. Mpath seems to be based on 2.2.7. I'd appreciate your letting me know which solution you choose. Thanks, ed To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Oct 1 06:10:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA14909 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 06:10:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from florence.pavilion.net (florence.pavilion.net [194.242.128.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA14888; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 06:10:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joe@florence.pavilion.net) Received: (from joe@localhost) by florence.pavilion.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA01342; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 14:10:15 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from joe) Message-ID: <19981001141015.G16056@pavilion.net> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 14:10:15 +0100 From: Josef Karthauser To: freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: re: chio.c (bug?) Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-scsi@Freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <19980930192132.D11002@pavilion.net>; from Josef Karthauser on Wed, Sep 30, 1998 at 07:21:32PM +0100 X-NCC-RegID: uk.pavilion Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sorry, I was a bit quick off the mark. I believe that the patch below reinstates the functionality documented in the man page: params Report the number of slots, drives, pickers, and portals in the changer, and which picker unit the changer is currently config- ured to use. ----------------Patch below---------------------- --- chio.c Thu Oct 1 14:02:29 1998 +++ /home/joe/chio.c Thu Oct 1 14:04:20 1998 @@ -382,7 +382,6 @@ do_params(char *cname, int argc, char **argv) { struct changer_params data; - int picker; /* No arguments to this command. */ @@ -406,12 +405,6 @@ if (data.cp_nportals) (void) printf(", %d portal%s", data.cp_nportals, (data.cp_nportals > 1) ? "s" : ""); - - - /* Get current picker from changer and display it. */ - if (ioctl(changer_fd, CHIOGPICKER, &picker)) - err(1, "%s: CHIOGPICKER", changer_name); - printf("\n%s: current picker: %d\n", changer_name, picker); return (0); -- Josef Karthauser Technical Manager FreeBSD: The power to serve (http://www.uk.freebsd.org) Pavilion Internet plc. [joe@pavilion.net, joe@uk.freebsd.org, joe@tao.org.uk] ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Josef Karthauser Technical Manager FreeBSD: The power to serve (http://www.uk.freebsd.org) Pavilion Internet plc. [joe@pavilion.net, joe@uk.freebsd.org, joe@tao.org.uk] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Oct 1 06:19:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA16492 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 06:19:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sos.freebsd.dk (sos.freebsd.dk [212.242.40.180]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA16467; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 06:19:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sos@sos.freebsd.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by sos.freebsd.dk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA01245; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 15:18:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from sos) Message-Id: <199810011318.PAA01245@sos.freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: Oracle8 for Linux (Linux emulation) In-Reply-To: <36137A95.3B6AE583@kada.lt> from Darius Ramanauskas at "Oct 1, 98 02:50:29 pm" To: dara@kada.lt (Darius Ramanauskas) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 15:18:13 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG From: Sרren Schmidt Reply-to: sos@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In reply to Darius Ramanauskas who wrote: > Hello All, > > I'm trying to run Oracle 8.0.5 beta for Linux on FBSD 2.2.7. > Linux emulation in rc.conf is YES, linux_lib 2.4 is installed, > binaries is branded, but then I try to start it say: > libm.so.6 not found :( You need to run 3.0 to get the latest linux emulator. You need an updated linux lib distribution. Then you need good kernel hacking skills, as it doesn't work yet. We are working on it though... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Sרren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org) FreeBSD Core Team Even more code to hack -- will it ever end? .. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Oct 1 07:00:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA21001 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 07:00:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Gambit.Msk.SU (gambit.msk.su [194.190.206.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA20994 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 07:00:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from laskavy@Gambit.Msk.SU) Received: (from laskavy@localhost) by Gambit.Msk.SU (6.7/8.9.1) id RAA15006; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 17:59:27 +0400 (MSD) To: "Kaleb S. KEITHLEY" Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, devel@xfree86.org Subject: Re: anybody from the XFree86 team here ? References: <3612A380.5A1E9F1C@ics.com> From: "Sergei S. Laskavy" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Date: 01 Oct 1998 17:59:26 +0400 In-Reply-To: "Kaleb S. KEITHLEY"'s message of Wed, 30 Sep 1998 17:32:48 -0400 Message-ID: Lines: 10 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 20.2 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Kaleb S. KEITHLEY" writes: > In CP866, yes; but in the official GOST KOI-8 and ISO8859-5 they're not > printable (and yes, I know that nobody in Russia uses ISO8859-5). Sun CDE for Solaris comes with iso-8859-5 Russian localisation. -- FreeBSD Project: http://FreeBSD.org/docproj/ Vim: http://www.vim.org/ $_='$6C86:P$^P|2D<2GJPl=2D<2GJp82>3:E^>D<^DFn';tr#P-~\x20-O#\x20-~#;print To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Oct 1 07:00:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA21059 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 07:00:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ics.com (ics.com [140.186.40.192]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA21054 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 07:00:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kaleb@ics.com) Received: from ics.com (sunoco.ics.com [140.186.40.142]) by ics.com (8.9.0.Beta5/8.9.0.Beta5) with ESMTP id KAA11879; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:00:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <36138AF2.6B08CAC3@ics.com> Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 10:00:18 -0400 From: "Kaleb S. KEITHLEY" Organization: Integrated Computer Solutions X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5b2 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: devel@XFree86.Org, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: anybody from the XFree86 team here ? References: <3612A380.5A1E9F1C@ics.com> <19981001111023D.shiozaki@ased.mt.nec.co.jp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Takuya SHIOZAKI wrote: > > It is important that we design and implement better I18N facility > for not only X11 but also any Free-Unix. > Locale implementation on the Free-Unix is poorer than > Commercial-Unix's one (for instance, the locale implementation on > Solaris-2.{5,6} is very good). That is fatal to make also I18Nized X11 > application, since it seems that X11 and XFree86 prefer to use > OS locale basically, instead of X11 own locale facility. The design and intent is that X11 should use the operating system's locale support. If locale support is weak or non-existent then you may build X11 with -DX_LOCALE, but that is only a workaround. -- Kaleb To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Oct 1 07:07:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA22775 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 07:07:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from florence.pavilion.net (florence.pavilion.net [194.242.128.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA22754 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 07:07:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joe@florence.pavilion.net) Received: (from joe@localhost) by florence.pavilion.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA11370; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 15:04:48 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from joe) Message-ID: <19981001150447.I16056@pavilion.net> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 15:04:47 +0100 From: Josef Karthauser To: Edwin Culp , Tim Wolfe Cc: tom@sdf.com, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, chris@easynet.net Subject: Re: Equal Cost/MultiPath Routing Mail-Followup-To: Edwin Culp , Tim Wolfe , tom@sdf.com, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, chris@easynet.net References: <36137D85.14968D1@webwizard.org.mx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <36137D85.14968D1@webwizard.org.mx>; from Edwin Culp on Thu, Oct 01, 1998 at 08:03:01AM -0500 X-NCC-RegID: uk.pavilion Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Oct 01, 1998 at 08:03:01AM -0500, Edwin Culp wrote: > > There is probably a lot of interest in this. I just set a private mail to > Chrisy Luke . > asking if there were patches for current/elf. Mpath seems to be based on > 2.2.7. > > I'd appreciate your letting me know which solution you choose. > I don't believe that he's ported to elf yet, and is currently on holiday until next Monday so nothing will happen until at least then :) Joe. -- Josef Karthauser Technical Manager FreeBSD: The power to serve (http://www.uk.freebsd.org) Pavilion Internet plc. [joe@pavilion.net, joe@uk.freebsd.org, joe@tao.org.uk] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Oct 1 07:59:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA00863 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 07:59:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ics.com (ics.com [140.186.40.192]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA00858 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 07:59:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kaleb@ics.com) Received: from ics.com (sunoco.ics.com [140.186.40.142]) by ics.com (8.9.0.Beta5/8.9.0.Beta5) with ESMTP id KAA14244; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:56:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <36139828.2F3833FD@ics.com> Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 10:56:40 -0400 From: "Kaleb S. KEITHLEY" Organization: Integrated Computer Solutions X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5b2 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: devel@XFree86.org, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ELF shared library "revision" numbers References: <19980926142659.E22169@rf900.physics.usyd.edu.au> <36123E72.750CF4BB@ics.com> <19981001120007.C25329@rf900.physics.usyd.edu.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG David Dawes wrote: > Kaleb wrote: > >The X11 sample implementation uses the strings it does to, A) make them easy > >to distinguish from those that Sun, SGI, Unixware, etc., ship; and B) to > >make them easy to distinguish which libraries are built from which > >releases; and C) to informally document when new functionality was added > >to a particular library. If there was no change in a library (save bug > >fixes) between releases, then the SONAME wasn't changed -- that's why > >libXt is still libXt.so.6.0, but libXext is libXext.so.6.4. Hmmh, libXt > >probably should have changed in R6.4 because of the easy resource config > >stuff that was added. Sigh. > > It doesn't follow your "Unless the ABI changes in an incompatible way, > you don't change the SONAME" statement above for your definition of > "incompatible". That's the ELF definition of incompatible, not mine. > The definition of "incompatible" that FreeBSD has chosen > includes adding new functions while keeping all the previous interfaces > unchanged. Ugh. That's bad. That's going to force people to keep old libraries around for old programs, and /usr/lib is going to suffer from bloat. Either that or it's going to force people to go manually dink their /usr/lib to create symlinks if they want to get rid of old libraries. (Yeah, yeah, disk is cheap.) At the risk of using those hated words: that's not how everyone else does it. I'm going to use them anyway (and I'm cc-ing the freebsd-hackers list). There are probably more reasons than those I've already mentioned, why everyone else does it the way they do. I hope they'll rethink. Bumping the SONAME/version when you add APIs doesn't buy you anything. > >Not limited to FreeBSD, but how do you avoid conflicting with Metro Link > >or XiGraphics libraries? It's true that this can be solved with an RPATH > >recorded in binaries, but I'd wager that in some sense Metro Link, Xi > >Graphics, and XFree86 all want their X libraries to be THE libraries and > >have them installed in /usr/lib. An unambiguous version-naming scheme > >would allow everyone to put their libraries in /usr/lib and thus not > >require that binaries have an RPATH or that the user set his or her > >LD_LIBRARY_PATH to find the right set of libraries. > > XFree86 wants the libraries installed in /usr/X11R6/lib. Our aim has been > to have our libraries compatible with the SI versions of the same name > in the sense that all interfaces present in the SI versions are present > and compatible in ours. The sample implementation needed to be nice on systems like Suns, HPs, and SGIs, where the vendor had X11 installed in /usr/lib. On Linux and FreeBSD, where you're not competing with the vendor's X11, I think it'd be nicer to install in /usr/lib so that programs don't need an RPATH or LD_LIBRARY_PATH to find their libraries. (Here comes those hated words again) That's why everyone else does it that way. > >> It doesn't clobber > >> previous versions either, but means that older apps will either need > >> the old libXext.so.6 installed, or a link added to the new one. > > > >What older apps on a new ELF system? Don't old a.out binaries need the > >old a.out libraries. In which case if they're really old, they use the > >ld.so.cache, and if they're only a little old, FreeBSD 2.2.x has had an > >extended a.out format with RPATH. > > For FreeBSD/ELF, the a.out libraries get moved to /usr/X11R6/aout/ and > the runtime loader (with help from ldconfig?) takes care of finding them. My point exactly. You don't have to worry about clobbering anything. > Another aspect of FreeBSD's decision about how to handle all of their > ports is that when the ELF version gets bumped the a.out version of the > port (for FreeBSD 2.2.x) also has its major rev bumped and the minor rev > clamped at zero. I don't personally agree with the way they've handled > this. However, I don't want to see different (incompatible) sets of > XFree86 binaries for FreeBSD/ELF. So why don't you do it right and get them to fix their port? Or do you want to live with brokenness for ever? FreeBSD 3.0 is still only in beta. -- Kaleb To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Oct 1 08:28:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA05890 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 08:28:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from att.com (kcgw1.att.com [192.128.133.151]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA05869 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 08:27:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sbabkin@dcn.att.com) From: sbabkin@dcn.att.com Received: from kcig1.fw.att.com by kcgw1.att.com (AT&T/IPNS/UPAS-1.0) for freebsd.org!hackers sender dcn.att.com!sbabkin (dcn.att.com!sbabkin); Thu Oct 1 10:20 CDT 1998 Received: from dcn71.dcn.att.com ([135.44.192.112]) by kcig1.fw.att.com (AT&T/IPNS/GW-1.0) with ESMTP id KAA09581 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:20:02 -0500 (CDT) Received: by dcn71.dcn.att.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) id ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 11:19:44 -0400 Message-ID: To: postmaster@localhost.net, kaleb@ics.com Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, devel@xfree86.org Subject: RE: anybody from the XFree86 team here ? Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 11:19:42 -0400 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > From: Sergei S. Laskavy [SMTP:postmaster@localhost.net] > > "Kaleb S. KEITHLEY" writes: > > > In CP866, yes; but in the official GOST KOI-8 and ISO8859-5 they're > not > > printable (and yes, I know that nobody in Russia uses ISO8859-5). > > Sun CDE for Solaris comes with iso-8859-5 Russian localisation. > HP-UX also does this. The most funny thing is that the 8859/5 locale in HP-UX is broken. It defines wrong character order for collation like AaBbVvGg... (using transliteration of russian letters) instead of ABVG...abvg..., so if you do echo bvBV | tr [a-g] [A-G] you get "BVab". I've made definitions for CP866 and KOI-8 locales from their 8859/5 locale and that was a real surprise to discover that bug. You can try it also on Sun :-) -SB To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Oct 1 08:32:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA07014 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 08:32:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from p400.webwizard.net.mx (dns.webwizard.com.mx [148.245.50.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA06991 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 08:32:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eculp@webwizard.org.mx) Received: from webwizard.org.mx (dns.webwizard.com.mx [148.245.50.27]) by p400.webwizard.net.mx (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA10105; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:25:17 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from eculp@webwizard.org.mx) Message-ID: <36139EDD.6AF38D14@webwizard.org.mx> Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 10:25:17 -0500 From: Edwin Culp X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5b2 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-BETA i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Josef Karthauser CC: Tim Wolfe , tom@sdf.com, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, chris@easynet.net Subject: Re: Equal Cost/MultiPath Routing References: <36137D85.14968D1@webwizard.org.mx> <19981001150447.I16056@pavilion.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Josef Karthauser wrote: > On Thu, Oct 01, 1998 at 08:03:01AM -0500, Edwin Culp wrote: > > > > There is probably a lot of interest in this. I just set a private mail to > > Chrisy Luke . > > asking if there were patches for current/elf. Mpath seems to be based on > > 2.2.7. > > > > I'd appreciate your letting me know which solution you choose. > > > > I don't believe that he's ported to elf yet, and is currently on holiday > until next Monday so nothing will happen until at least then :) > > Joe. > -- > Josef Karthauser > Technical Manager FreeBSD: The power to serve (http://www.uk.freebsd.org) > Pavilion Internet plc. [joe@pavilion.net, joe@uk.freebsd.org, joe@tao.org.uk] I guess we'll just have to wait p a t i e n t l y :-) ed To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Oct 1 10:32:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA26974 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:32:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ninbox.ml.org (hsv1-249.airnet.net [207.242.81.249]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA26968 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:32:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@airnet.net) Received: from airnet.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ninbox.ml.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA00771; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 12:31:10 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from kris@airnet.net) Message-ID: <3613BC5E.7E8CB4C0@airnet.net> Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 12:31:10 -0500 From: Kris Kirby Organization: Absolutely None! X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 2.2.7-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nicholas Charles Brawn CC: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: freebsd clustering? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Nicholas Charles Brawn wrote: > > Is anyone aware of, or working on an open source clustering "technology" > for FreeBSD or *BSD in general? > > Production-grade SMP is one thing that will be bringing a lot of people > over to try out FreeBSD, but imagine what we could do if we could say: > "The Walnut Creek Cluster is ranked xxx in the top 500 fastest computers > in the world..." :) > > Let's beat the pants off Beowulf. :) You're talking about beating the (expletive) out of Windows, literally. -- Kris Kirby UAH Mail UAH CS Home WWW ------------------------------------------- TGIFreeBSD... 'Nuff said. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Oct 1 10:34:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA27145 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:34:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA27136 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:34:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from julian@whistle.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by alpo.whistle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA17171; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:32:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from current1.whistle.com(207.76.205.22) via SMTP by alpo.whistle.com, id smtpdu17169; Thu Oct 1 17:32:23 1998 Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:32:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Julian Elischer To: Kenjiro Cho cc: Vitaly V Belekhov , freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, tom@sdf.com Subject: Re: Equal Cost/MultiPath Routing In-Reply-To: <199810010649.PAA21961@hotaka.csl.sony.co.jp> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The firewall forwarding code has been incorporated into -current, and patches for 2.2.7 ara available from peter wemm I believe. the multipath part of the changes will need to be separated out if you want to apply them to -current. On Thu, 1 Oct 1998, Kenjiro Cho wrote: > > You might want to take a look at Multipath Routing > ftp://ftp.flirble.org/pub/unix/hacks/FreeBSD/mpath.b3.tgz > by Chrisy Luke . > > mpath comes with two functions; Multipath routing and Firewall > rule-based packet forwarding, where firewall rules can change the > next-hop of packets that match them. > When you don't set firewall rules, it does load-balancing. > > --kj > > Vitaly V Belekhov said: > >> Hello! > >> Also how about routing with policies based on source address? > >> Is such job exist or we need do it? > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Oct 1 10:51:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA29400 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:51:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mom.hooked.net (mom.hooked.net [206.80.6.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA29394 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:51:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from garbanzo@hooked.net) Received: from fish.hooked.net (garbanzo@fish.hooked.net [206.80.6.48]) by mom.hooked.net (8.8.6/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA09819; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:50:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:50:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Alex To: "Kaleb S. KEITHLEY" cc: devel@XFree86.org, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ELF shared library "revision" numbers In-Reply-To: <36139828.2F3833FD@ics.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 1 Oct 1998, Kaleb S. KEITHLEY wrote: > > It doesn't follow your "Unless the ABI changes in an incompatible way, > > you don't change the SONAME" statement above for your definition of > > "incompatible". > > That's the ELF definition of incompatible, not mine. > > > The definition of "incompatible" that FreeBSD has chosen > > includes adding new functions while keeping all the previous interfaces > > unchanged. > > Ugh. That's bad. That's going to force people to keep old libraries > around for old programs, and /usr/lib is going to suffer from bloat. > Either that or it's going to force people to go manually dink their > /usr/lib to create symlinks if they want to get rid of old libraries. > (Yeah, yeah, disk is cheap.) It's _good_. It would force people to link statically if they're horribly desperate, or perhaps just relink. Yes, it's true Linux added new functions to its libc5 without bumping the major number. Let me tell you, when you've got a populace that's so full of clueless idiots, doing something like that is a bad idea. Ever try and run programs linked with libc.so.5.44 on a libc.so.5.12 system? It's not fun, but something like that _should_ work. When you introduce binary or source incompatablity, it's time to change the major number. > Bumping the SONAME/version when you add APIs doesn't buy you anything. It buys you sanity. Unless you want to explain why a libc.so.3 from the 12th won't work with programs linked with a libc.so.3 from the 13th. - alex You better believe that marijuana can cause castration. Just suppose your girlfriend gets the munchies! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Oct 1 10:59:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA00925 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:59:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from florence.pavilion.net (florence.pavilion.net [194.242.128.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA00911 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:59:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joe@florence.pavilion.net) Received: (from joe@localhost) by florence.pavilion.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA21662 for freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 18:58:57 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from joe) Message-ID: <19981001185857.B12010@pavilion.net> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 18:58:57 +0100 From: Josef Karthauser To: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: A CVS merging question. Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i X-NCC-RegID: uk.pavilion Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm directing this here because someone's more likely to know the answer than on questions. Sorry if this inconviences anyone. A CVS question, hopefully one with an answer. I'm doing a lot of importing at the moment on a vendor branch for Amanda, that we run locally (I know there's a port... :) ) A few versions ago I manually patched some of the files, thus moving their versions onto the HEAD branch (1.x etc.). Some of those patches have made it a more recent version of the code and have been imported onto the vendor branch. Unfortunately because the HEAD isn't on the vendor branch for those files I have to manually adjust for conflicts, etc. What I'd really like to do now is make the vendor branch, for those files, the HEAD so that the merges happen properly. Does anyone have any tips? Joe -- Josef Karthauser Technical Manager FreeBSD: The power to serve (http://www.uk.freebsd.org) Pavilion Internet plc. [joe@pavilion.net, joe@uk.freebsd.org, joe@tao.org.uk] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Oct 1 12:35:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA17894 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 12:35:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ics.com (ics.com [140.186.40.192]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA17871 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 12:35:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kaleb@ics.com) Received: from ics.com (sunoco.ics.com [140.186.40.142]) by ics.com (8.9.0.Beta5/8.9.0.Beta5) with ESMTP id PAA12308 Thu, 1 Oct 1998 15:35:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3613D980.3C606C15@ics.com> Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 15:35:28 -0400 From: "Kaleb S. KEITHLEY" Organization: Integrated Computer Solutions X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5b2 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ELF shared library "revision" numbers References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Alex wrote: > > > The definition of "incompatible" that FreeBSD has chosen > > > includes adding new functions while keeping all the previous interfaces > > > unchanged. > > > > Ugh. That's bad. That's going to force people to keep old libraries > > around for old programs, and /usr/lib is going to suffer from bloat. > > Either that or it's going to force people to go manually dink their > > /usr/lib to create symlinks if they want to get rid of old libraries. > > (Yeah, yeah, disk is cheap.) > > It's _good_. Anything that results in an accretion of versions of libraries in /usr/lib is not _good_ by any stetch of the imagination. > It would force people to link statically if they're horribly desparate, I'm glad all that work was done to make shared libraries work, just so people could tell us to link statically. > or perhaps just relink. Thanks, but no thanks. Being forced to relink hundreds of programs just because I've upgraded FreeBSD from 3.0 to 3.1? That doesn't sound like user friendly to me. > Yes, it's true Linux added new > functions to its libc5 without bumping the major number. Let me tell you, > when you've got a populace that's so full of clueless idiots, doing > something like that is a bad idea. The clueless idiots don't seem to have had much of an impact on anyone else who has a sane (my definition of sane) policy for incrementing the version of a shared library. > Ever try and run programs linked with > libc.so.5.44 on a libc.so.5.12 system? It's not fun, but something like > that _should_ work. Why should it work. If a program wants the foobarbaz function in libc and it's not there, the dlsym will fail, and the program will exit. If foobarbaz gets added to libc in FreeBSD 3.7 and some shrinkwrap software needs the foobarbaz function, then it'll specify that FreeBSD 3.7 or later is required. > When you introduce binary or source incompatablity, > it's time to change the major number. Out of all the ELF systems out there you're clearly in the minority with this opinion. And for good reason I'd say. > > > Bumping the SONAME/version when you add APIs doesn't buy you anything. > > It buys you sanity. I wouldn't use the word "sanity" to describe a situation that's going to result in 57 (or even five) versions of libc in /usr/lib. Because there will be programs that just can't be relinked -- count on it. > Unless you want to explain why a libc.so.3 from the > 12th won't work with programs linked with a libc.so.3 from the 13th. You need to remember that there's a difference between "production" use of the system and what the developers are doing. Only a developer is going to have the problem you describe (and there are ways to work around that). Systems in "real" use aren't going to be changing their libc like you are. Gee, it seems like it was only yesterday (even though it was really three or four years ago) that I suggested switching to ELF. Back then I was told that switching to ELF wasn't such a good idea. History really does repeat itself. -- Kaleb To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Oct 1 13:38:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA29491 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 13:38:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-12.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA29486 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 13:38:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from merlin@A470.demon.co.uk) Received: from [212.228.155.84] (helo=A470.demon.co.uk) by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.03 #1) id 0zOpUO-00019M-00 for freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 20:38:19 +0000 Received: (qmail 22260 invoked by uid 500); 30 Sep 1998 21:52:31 -0000 Message-ID: <19980930215231.A22014@A470.demon.co.uk> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 21:52:31 +0000 From: Darren Wyn Rees To: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Hi good cracker Reply-To: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG References: <4.1.0.67.19980929202415.00a35730@genesis.ispace.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93i In-Reply-To: <4.1.0.67.19980929202415.00a35730@genesis.ispace.com>; from Drew Baxter on Tue, Sep 29, 1998 at 08:25:43PM -0400 X-WWW: http://www.netlink.co.uk/cgi-merlin/lwgate X-PGP: finger merlin@netlink.co.uk for key X-PGP-Fingerprint: F8 79 5E 84 F0 20 A5 62 FA 2D E9 BD BE 06 7D 10 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Tue, Sep 29, 1998 at 08:25:43PM -0400, Drew Baxter wrote: > He's clearly a linux user. :-P (See my reference post on the "Pheer me ^^^^^^^^^^^^ > because I'm not running Windows 95" Linux Teenage User Complex from earlier ^^^^^^^ Mmmm... IIRC Torvalds was himself quite young (may be not a "teenager") when he started hacking/pissing about with Minix and made that not very interesting post to comp.os.minix saying "I'm doing a (free) operating system". It may not be such a bad thing capturing a youthful, teenage audience... a few of these recruits became innovative, brilliant hackers. Does FreeBSD have such a youthful allure??? (F'ups : freebsd-advocacy pls.) That said, Drew, the original poster clearly hadn't engaged any cerebral input for his post which sought help to 'break into' his ISP. And I contribute no signal for this list! - -- Darren Rees merlin@netlink.co.uk 2000+ Berfau; fformat .zip .htm M$ Access CSV http://www.netlink.co.uk/users/merlin/berfau/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv Comment: Fersiwn Cymraeg ar gael, credwch neu pheidio. (LANGUAGE = cy) iQBVAgUBNhKnnjf60DcW7srJAQHXXgH/VvVe3IhHjaa12yZP607bEB3mytCYTrF6 lraduNeH3WGXnhKrchXJrr2qi2/8iL5IufnvIrxYgo4wE+VdGSWpdw== =48EX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Oct 1 14:34:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA09218 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 14:34:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from att.com (cagw1.att.com [192.128.52.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA09166 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 14:33:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sbabkin@dcn.att.com) From: sbabkin@dcn.att.com Received: from caig1.fw.att.com by cagw1.att.com (AT&T/IPNS/UPAS-1.0) for freebsd.org!hackers sender dcn.att.com!sbabkin (dcn.att.com!sbabkin); Thu Oct 1 17:24 EDT 1998 Received: from dcn71.dcn.att.com ([135.44.192.112]) by caig1.fw.att.com (AT&T/IPNS/GW-1.0) with ESMTP id RAA20830 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 17:33:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: by dcn71.dcn.att.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) id ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 17:33:13 -0400 Message-ID: To: shiozaki@ased.mt.nec.co.jp, devel@XFree86.Org Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: anybody from the XFree86 team here ? Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 17:33:11 -0400 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > From: Takuya SHIOZAKI [SMTP:shiozaki@ased.mt.nec.co.jp] > > From: "Kaleb S. KEITHLEY" > Oops, sorry if I repeat the same things into the XFree86 developers list the second time. > > > I'm working on conversion of TTF fonts into Type1 format. > > I have to wonder why you want to go this way, when at this point in > time > > just about everyone is using the new TrueType fontserver. And before > too > > long XFree86 will release servers that can use TTF fonts directly. > I want to use the same fonts also with Ghostscript. > FreeBSD ports-current/packages-current has been containing our > X-TrueType Server Version1.0 [Aoi MATSUBARA Release 0]. > You need only to invoke pkg_add to use TrueType-fied XFree86 Server, > based on 3.2.2.3. If you use RedHat Linux, Slacware Linux, Debian > GNU/Linux > and/or TurboLinux distributions, you can use the X-TT binary packages > we > have already prepeared, too. > I have tried some TTF font server. Here is why I can't use it directly as is: 1. For Unicode encoded TTF fonts it's neccessary to move the russian letters to CP1251 codes. 2. I want to get also fonts in KOI-8 and CP866 encodings. To do that I have to patch the server to do translation on the fly or convert the source TTF fonts (or translate the Type1 fonts that seemed to be the easiest way for me :-) 3. That server exported all the fonts as having iso8859-1 encoding 4. That server exported all the fonts as having proportional width 5. I'm not sure now but I think there was some problem with font names and/or attributes 6. I still want to use these fonts with Ghostscript :-) , may be also TeX and LyX -Sergey To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Oct 1 18:34:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA09039 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 18:34:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from picnic.mat.net (picnic.mat.net [206.246.122.117]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA09033 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 18:34:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chuckr@mat.net) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost) by picnic.mat.net (8.9.1/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA00407 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 21:34:03 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 21:34:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey To: FreeBSD-Hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Java Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I suddenly need java for a school project (I need jdbc). I see the port of 1.1.6, and I'm currently installing it, but the 3 other members of my project are all going to be using 1.1.7. Will I notice much difference? Is there any real chance that 1.1.7 might be something that will come soon? Is there anything I need to install beyond lang/jdk to make it work here on FreeBSD? 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If you know someone that would be interested please forward this to them or I can be contacted at: Larry Chiaravallo Voice: (609) 584-9000 ext 216 Fax: (609) 584-9575 Email: lmc@candseek.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Oct 1 18:59:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA12429 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 18:59:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from WEBBSD1.turnaround.com.au (webbsd1.turnaround.com.au [203.39.138.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA12386 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 18:59:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from J_Shevland@TurnAround.com.au) Received: from TurnAround.com.au (dhcp72.turnaround.com.au [192.168.1.72]) by WEBBSD1.turnaround.com.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA17350; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 12:00:46 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from J_Shevland@TurnAround.com.au) Message-ID: <361432B8.CDAD82A6@TurnAround.com.au> Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1998 11:56:08 +1000 From: Joe Shevland Organization: TurnAround Solutions Pty. Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chuck Robey CC: FreeBSD-Hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Java References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Chuck Robey wrote: > > I suddenly need java for a school project (I need jdbc). I see the port > of 1.1.6, and I'm currently installing it, but the 3 other members of my > project are all going to be using 1.1.7. Will I notice much difference? No, 1.1.7 only has (among other things) an updated JIT (just in time compiler) and bugfixes. > Is there any real chance that 1.1.7 might be something that will come > soon? Is there anything I need to install beyond lang/jdk to make it > work here on FreeBSD? Your DISPLAY env variable if using X, and a few other bits and pieces. Give me a holler once you've installed the port and go from there if you like. > > Thanks. > > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- > Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data > chuckr@glue.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. > 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | > Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and picnic (FreeBSD-current) > (301) 220-2114 | and jaunt (NetBSD). > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message -- ======================================================= Joe Shevland TurnAround Solutions Pty. Ltd. Senior Consultant J_Shevland@TurnAround.com.au Voice (03) 6224 9146 ShevlandJ@Netscape.net -- FreeBSD - The Power to Serve ======================================================= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Oct 1 19:39:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA15923 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 19:39:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from picnic.mat.net (picnic.mat.net [206.246.122.117]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA15918 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 19:39:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chuckr@mat.net) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost) by picnic.mat.net (8.9.1/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA03016; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 22:38:15 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 22:38:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey To: Joe Shevland cc: FreeBSD-Hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Java In-Reply-To: <361432B8.CDAD82A6@TurnAround.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 2 Oct 1998, Joe Shevland wrote: > Chuck Robey wrote: > > > > I suddenly need java for a school project (I need jdbc). I see the port > > of 1.1.6, and I'm currently installing it, but the 3 other members of my > > project are all going to be using 1.1.7. Will I notice much difference? > > No, 1.1.7 only has (among other things) an updated JIT (just in time > compiler) and bugfixes. > > > Is there any real chance that 1.1.7 might be something that will come > > soon? Is there anything I need to install beyond lang/jdk to make it > > work here on FreeBSD? > > Your DISPLAY env variable if using X, and a few other bits and pieces. > Give me a holler once you've installed the port and go from there if you > like. I'm familiar with X, just not java. It's installed ... do you have a sample app I could try to demonstrate that it works? If not, that's ok, I have to learn how to pop open windows and stuff like that soon anyhow. ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@glue.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and picnic (FreeBSD-current) (301) 220-2114 | and jaunt (NetBSD). ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Oct 1 20:36:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA20248 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 20:36:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (sri-gw.MT.net [206.127.105.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA20234 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 20:36:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nate@mt.sri.com) Received: from mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA06412; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 21:36:16 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: by mt.sri.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id VAA13764; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 21:36:16 -0600 Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 21:36:16 -0600 Message-Id: <199810020336.VAA13764@mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Joe Shevland Cc: Chuck Robey , FreeBSD-Hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Java In-Reply-To: <361432B8.CDAD82A6@TurnAround.com.au> References: <361432B8.CDAD82A6@TurnAround.com.au> X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 19.16 "Lille" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > I suddenly need java for a school project (I need jdbc). I see the port > > of 1.1.6, and I'm currently installing it, but the 3 other members of my > > project are all going to be using 1.1.7. Will I notice much difference? > > No, 1.1.7 only has (among other things) an updated JIT (just in time > compiler) and bugfixes. Note, the JIT fixes are only on the Win32 platform, so wouldn't affect any unix boxes. (And, given the sorry state of the Symantec JIT, I wouldn't trust it for anything mission-critical in any case. Sad stories available upon request. ;( ) Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Oct 1 21:02:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA22953 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 21:02:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from WEBBSD1.turnaround.com.au (webbsd1.turnaround.com.au [203.39.138.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA22948 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 21:02:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from J_Shevland@TurnAround.com.au) Received: from TurnAround.com.au (dhcp72.turnaround.com.au [192.168.1.72]) by WEBBSD1.turnaround.com.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA18241; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 14:03:44 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from J_Shevland@TurnAround.com.au) Message-ID: <36144F8B.F0FA171A@TurnAround.com.au> Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1998 13:59:07 +1000 From: Joe Shevland Organization: TurnAround Solutions Pty. Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nate Williams CC: Chuck Robey , FreeBSD-Hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Java References: <361432B8.CDAD82A6@TurnAround.com.au> <199810020336.VAA13764@mt.sri.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Nate Williams wrote: > > > > I suddenly need java for a school project (I need jdbc). I see the port > > > of 1.1.6, and I'm currently installing it, but the 3 other members of my > > > project are all going to be using 1.1.7. Will I notice much difference? > > > > No, 1.1.7 only has (among other things) an updated JIT (just in time > > compiler) and bugfixes. > > Note, the JIT fixes are only on the Win32 platform, so wouldn't affect > any unix boxes. (And, given the sorry state of the Symantec JIT, I > wouldn't trust it for anything mission-critical in any case. Sad > stories available upon request. ;( ) > That's right. On a totally different note I just tried Jikes and it fairly hums on Solaris compared to the Sun one, I assume that's similar on FreeBSD. -- ======================================================= Joe Shevland TurnAround Solutions Pty. Ltd. Senior Consultant J_Shevland@TurnAround.com.au Voice (03) 6224 9146 ShevlandJ@Netscape.net -- FreeBSD - The Power to Serve ======================================================= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Oct 1 21:39:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA27070 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 21:39:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ocean.lucon.org (ocean.lucon.org [209.249.10.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA27065 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 21:39:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hjl@lucon.org) Received: by ocean.lucon.org (Linux Smail3.2.0.92 #1) id m0zOwzP-000395C; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 21:38:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: From: hjl@lucon.org (H.J. Lu) Subject: Re: ELF shared library "revision" numbers To: devel@XFree86.Org Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 21:38:46 -0700 (PDT) Cc: kaleb@ics.com, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Alex" at Oct 1, 98 10:50:44 am Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > > > The definition of "incompatible" that FreeBSD has chosen > > > includes adding new functions while keeping all the previous interfaces > > > unchanged. > > > > Ugh. That's bad. That's going to force people to keep old libraries > > around for old programs, and /usr/lib is going to suffer from bloat. > > Either that or it's going to force people to go manually dink their > > /usr/lib to create symlinks if they want to get rid of old libraries. > > (Yeah, yeah, disk is cheap.) > > It's _good_. It would force people to link statically if they're horribly > desperate, or perhaps just relink. Yes, it's true Linux added new > functions to its libc5 without bumping the major number. Let me tell you, > when you've got a populace that's so full of clueless idiots, doing > something like that is a bad idea. Ever try and run programs linked with > libc.so.5.44 on a libc.so.5.12 system? It's not fun, but something like > that _should_ work. When you introduce binary or source incompatablity, > it's time to change the major number. No. The binary compatibility is backward, not forward. It is true bewteen glibc 2.0 and glibc 2.1. And it is the case for Solaris 2.5.1 and 2.6. That is one reason why we, the company I work for, have to compile our Solaris binaries on Solaris 2.5.1 machines. > > > Bumping the SONAME/version when you add APIs doesn't buy you anything. > > It buys you sanity. Unless you want to explain why a libc.so.3 from the > 12th won't work with programs linked with a libc.so.3 from the 13th. > That is why SONAME and filename should be different. On glibc 2.0 machine, # cd /lib # ls -l -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2493455 Sep 2 14:44 libc-2.0.7.so lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 Sep 2 18:50 libc.so.6 -> libc-2.0.7.so On glibc 2.1, # cd /lib # ls -l -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 3876819 Sep 11 10:01 libc-2.0.96.so lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 14 Sep 11 08:25 libc.so.6 -> libc-2.0.96.so We change the version number. But we don't change the SONAME. It is up to developer to make sure the right library is used to link binaries. That is why the glibc 2.0 binaries I distributed are always compiled in glibc 2.0 machines. -- H.J. Lu (hjl@gnu.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Oct 1 22:55:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA04664 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 22:55:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from danberlin.resnet.rochester.edu (danberlin.resnet.rochester.edu [128.151.84.217]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA04659 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 22:55:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dberlin@danberlin.resnet.rochester.edu) Received: from localhost by danberlin.resnet.rochester.edu via sendmail with esmtp id (Debian Smail3.2.0.101) for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 01:52:02 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 01:52:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Daniel Berlin To: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: JOBOP RELIABILITY ENGINEER In-Reply-To: <199810020148.SAA10560@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 1 Oct 1998 lmc@candseek.com wrote: > > If they can't spell development right (It's not "developement"), they have larger problems. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Oct 2 00:14:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA11886 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 00:14:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mrelay.jrc.it (mrelay.jrc.it [139.191.1.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA11881 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 00:14:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nick.hibma@jrc.it) Received: from elect8 (elect8.jrc.it [139.191.71.152]) by mrelay.jrc.it (LMC5692) with SMTP id JAA07484; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 09:13:41 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 09:13:41 +0200 (MET DST) From: Nick Hibma X-Sender: n_hibma@elect8 Reply-To: Nick Hibma To: Kris Kirby cc: FreeBSD hackers mailing list Subject: Re: freebsd clustering? In-Reply-To: <3613BC5E.7E8CB4C0@airnet.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 1 Oct 1998, Kris Kirby wrote: > > Let's beat the pants off Beowulf. :) > > You're talking about beating the (expletive) out of Windows, literally. There is nothing to be beaten. It scales up to 3 machines... Beowulf is more of a worthy opponent. Research as well as performance wise. Nick -- building: 27A address: STA-ISIS, T.P.270, Joint Research Centre, 21020 Ispra, Italy tel.: +39 332 78 9549 fax.: +39 332 78 9185 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Oct 2 00:30:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA13332 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 00:30:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from david.siemens.de (david.siemens.de [192.35.17.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA13324 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 00:30:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de) X-Envelope-Sender-Is: andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de (at relayer david.siemens.de) Received: from mail.siemens.de (salomon.siemens.de [139.23.33.13]) by david.siemens.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA17506 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 09:30:07 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from curry.mchp.siemens.de (daemon@curry.mchp.siemens.de [146.180.31.23]) by mail.siemens.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA21650 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 09:30:08 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by curry.mchp.siemens.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA16001 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 09:30:09 +0200 (CEST) From: Andre Albsmeier Message-Id: <199810020730.JAA05992@internal> Subject: Only "fetch -b" works, what am I doing wrong? To: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 09:30:01 +0200 (CEST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I have written a small programm that serves http requests. When using fetch I have to use "fetch -b" because without -b fetch complains with: "fetch: empty reply from myserver.org" While digging around in http.c, I found out that -b works around a linux bug. One of the correspondig lines is: if (sendmsg(s, &msg, fs->fs_linux_bug ? 0 : MSG_EOF) < 0) { This means, my small http server works when setting flags (of sendmsg) to 0. I assume, the correct way would be to set MSG_EOF but somehow my http server doesn't work with it. I do the ususal stuff, 1. socket() 2. bind() 3. listen() 4. accept() Can anybody tell me what I am doing wrong? Am I missing some setsockopt or anything? Thanks a lot, -Andre To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Oct 2 06:32:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA25894 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 06:32:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns1.sminter.com.ar (ns1.sminter.com.ar [200.10.100.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA25881 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 06:32:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fpscha@ns1.sminter.com.ar) Received: (from fpscha@localhost) by ns1.sminter.com.ar (8.8.5/8.8.4) id KAA06869 for hackers@freebsd.org; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 10:31:41 -0300 (GMT) From: Fernando Schapachnik Message-Id: <199810021331.KAA06869@ns1.sminter.com.ar> Subject: Machine with a lot of interfaces. To: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 10:31:41 -0300 (GMT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello: I have a box with one nic but more than 120 IP aliases, and I am planning to add more. This machine runs heavily squid + apache. Is there any kernel setting, besides maxusers, than I can use to tune the performance? (I am asking this because once a month the machine reboots, not sure if hardware is not the problem anyway) TIA! Fernando P. Schapachnik Administracion de la red S&M Internet To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Oct 2 08:17:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA13263 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 08:17:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bright.fx.genx.net (bright.fx.genx.net [206.64.4.154]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA13258 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 08:17:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bright@hotjobs.com) Received: from localhost (bright@localhost) by bright.fx.genx.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA29464; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 11:18:43 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bright@hotjobs.com) X-Authentication-Warning: bright.fx.genx.net: bright owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 11:18:43 -0500 (EST) From: Alfred Perlstein X-Sender: bright@bright.fx.genx.net To: Fernando Schapachnik cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Machine with a lot of interfaces. In-Reply-To: <199810021331.KAA06869@ns1.sminter.com.ar> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG you should add: options NMBCLUSTERS xxx to your kernel where xxx is derived from some formula posted a few weeks back. seriously folks shouldn't this be easier to find out than someone asking on the lists once a month? maybe a comment in LINT? or something at least in LINT that says: # For really loaded machines you need to set BLAH to X, and ... thanks, Alfred Perlstein - Programmer, HotJobs Inc. - www.hotjobs.com -- There are operating systems, and then there's FreeBSD. -- http://www.freebsd.org/ 3.0-current On Fri, 2 Oct 1998, Fernando Schapachnik wrote: > Hello: > I have a box with one nic but more than 120 IP aliases, and I am > planning to add more. This machine runs heavily squid + apache. > Is there any kernel setting, besides maxusers, than I can use to > tune the performance? (I am asking this because once a month the machine > reboots, not sure if hardware is not the problem anyway) > > TIA! > > > Fernando P. Schapachnik > Administracion de la red > S&M Internet > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Oct 2 08:32:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA15953 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 08:32:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from redfish.go2net.com (redfish.go2net.com [207.178.55.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA15852 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 08:31:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcs@go2net.com) Received: from marcs by redfish.go2net.com with smtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0zP763-0001ID-00; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 08:26:19 -0700 Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 08:26:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Marc Slemko X-Sender: marcs@redfish To: Andre Albsmeier cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Only "fetch -b" works, what am I doing wrong? In-Reply-To: <199810020730.JAA05992@internal> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 2 Oct 1998, Andre Albsmeier wrote: > Hi, > > I have written a small programm that serves http requests. > When using fetch I have to use "fetch -b" because without > -b fetch complains with: "fetch: empty reply from myserver.org" > > While digging around in http.c, I found out that -b > works around a linux bug. One of the correspondig > lines is: > > if (sendmsg(s, &msg, fs->fs_linux_bug ? 0 : MSG_EOF) < 0) { > > This means, my small http server works when setting flags > (of sendmsg) to 0. I assume, the correct way would be to set > MSG_EOF but somehow my http server doesn't work with it. You are not dealing properly with the case where the client half closes the connection before the response is fully sent. It shouldn't be too hard to add some debugging to your code to verify exactly where the problem is coming up, if your server is incorrectly assuming that if the socket is half closed it should abort, etc. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Oct 2 10:50:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA08960 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 10:50:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from peloton.physics.montana.edu (peloton.physics.montana.edu [153.90.192.177]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA08931 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 10:50:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brett@peloton.physics.montana.edu) Received: from localhost (brett@localhost) by peloton.physics.montana.edu (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA07914 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 11:49:06 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from brett@peloton.physics.montana.edu) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 11:49:06 -0600 (MDT) From: Brett Taylor To: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: new issue of Daemon News out (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, The latest issue of Daemon News is out. You can read all of the new articles at: http://www.daemonnews.org/ Brett Taylor (for the whole Daemon News team) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Oct 2 11:35:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA15019 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 11:35:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from george.lbl.gov (george.lbl.gov [131.243.2.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA14981 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 11:35:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jin@george.lbl.gov) Received: (from jin@localhost) by george.lbl.gov (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA02553 for hackers@freebsd.org; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 11:34:23 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 11:34:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Jin Guojun (FTG staff) Message-Id: <199810021834.LAA02553@george.lbl.gov> To: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Any document for network (socket) buffer changes? Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Just found out the socket layer buffer allocation has been changed from m_get to MALLOC in 3.0-BETA. I wonder if there is a document for this chnage somewhere? or would some please tell me how many places had such change which causes my exiting ATM driver panic during the mtod() call. So, I'd like to know where should I change the mtod() to nothing in the ATM driver code. Thanks, -Jin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Oct 2 12:59:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA25956 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 12:59:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from scientia.demon.co.uk (scientia.demon.co.uk [212.228.14.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA25927 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 12:59:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ben@scientia.demon.co.uk) Received: from ben by scientia.demon.co.uk with local (Exim 2.04 #9) id 0zPAAK-0003h7-00; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 19:42:56 +0100 Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 19:42:56 +0100 From: Ben Smithurst To: Darren Wyn Rees , freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Hi good cracker Message-ID: <19981002194256.A14161@scientia.demon.co.uk> References: <4.1.0.67.19980929202415.00a35730@genesis.ispace.com> <19980930215231.A22014@A470.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In-Reply-To: <19980930215231.A22014@A470.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/0.94.3i (FreeBSD 3.0-BETA i386) Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Darren Wyn Rees wrote: > It may not be such a bad thing capturing a youthful, teenage > audience... a few of these recruits became innovative, brilliant hackers. Hmm.... I may qualify as being youthful and teenage, though I certainly don't qualify as an innovative, brilliant hacker. More like someone who knows bugger all about C, and only slightly more about Perl, and nothing about any other langauge :-) Perhaps by the time FreeBSD 34.2 or something comes around I may have learnt enough to be able to contribute... (I know this is probably off topic for this list, so sorry about that, but I don't read -advocacy where replies were directed.) -- Ben Smithurst : ben@scientia.demon.co.uk : http://www.scientia.demon.co.uk/ PGP: 0x99392F7D - 3D 89 87 42 CE CA 93 4C 68 32 0E D5 36 05 3D 16 http://www.scientia.demon.co.uk/ben/pgp-key.html (or use keyservers) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Oct 2 14:34:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA09086 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 14:34:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from etinc.com (et-gw.etinc.com [207.252.1.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA09050 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 14:34:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dennis@etinc.com) Received: from dbsys (dbsys.etinc.com [207.252.1.18]) by etinc.com (8.8.8/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA07609 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 17:33:13 GMT Message-Id: <199810021733.RAA07609@etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@etinc.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1998 17:45:57 -0400 To: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG From: Dennis Subject: v2.2.7 - Problem system Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I recently upgraded a box to 2.2.7 and now every time I soft reboot it (with "reboot") it exits on signal 11 any time a program is executed including login). After pressing reboot it comes up ok. Only oddity is that there are 2 systems that are nfs attached to this machine which is acting as the server. any ideas? db To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Oct 2 16:51:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA25170 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 16:51:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA25165; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 16:51:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA10103; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 16:40:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) To: hosokawa@FreeBSD.ORG cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: New artwork for 3.0 CD cover? Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1998 16:40:04 -0700 Message-ID: <10099.907371604@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dear Tatsumi-san, We're strongly thinking of making a departure from the classic "daemon walking out of a CD" artwork which we've been using for the last few years here in order to give 3.0, a product with lots of new features, a new look to match. Since you're the creator of the current artwork, it also seemed only fair to give you first shot at drawing a suitable replacement (and you're welcome to be creative here), though if you also don't have any time for this we'd fully understand and simply ask if anyone else out there wants a shot at the title. :-) Since time is getting very short here, it would be good to know ASAP whether or not you're interested. Anyone else who really thinks they have the perfect (non-commercial!) artwork for the CD is also free to contact me. It would be good to have some back-up for Tatsumi, even if he does decide to do this, and there's always a lot of other FreeBSD merchandise which needs artwork (hats, jackets, watches, stickers, condoms, etc) and we could use a variety of themes for since it's kind of boring to only have just one. Thanks! - Jordan P.S. I don't know of there's any prize we can offer for "winning" artwork, but let's just say that anyone who's artwork we select for such purposes will definitely receive some sort of token of our gratitude! :) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Oct 2 18:00:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA03644 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 18:00:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from super-g.inch.com (super-g.com [207.240.140.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA03639; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 18:00:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from spork@super-g.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by super-g.inch.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA17924; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 20:59:14 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 20:59:14 -0400 (EDT) From: spork X-Sender: spork@super-g.inch.com To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: hosokawa@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: New artwork for 3.0 CD cover? In-Reply-To: <10099.907371604@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As much as I dislike the OS, I've always been fond of the modern look of the RedHat packaging. It grabs your eyeball well on a crowded shelf. There's more to a book than its cover and all that, but I do like it. Charles --- Charles Sprickman spork@super-g.com On Fri, 2 Oct 1998, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > Dear Tatsumi-san, > > We're strongly thinking of making a departure from the classic "daemon > walking out of a CD" artwork which we've been using for the last few > years here in order to give 3.0, a product with lots of new features, > a new look to match. Since you're the creator of the current artwork, > it also seemed only fair to give you first shot at drawing a suitable > replacement (and you're welcome to be creative here), though if you > also don't have any time for this we'd fully understand and simply ask > if anyone else out there wants a shot at the title. :-) > Since time is getting very short here, it would be good to know ASAP > whether or not you're interested. > > Anyone else who really thinks they have the perfect (non-commercial!) > artwork for the CD is also free to contact me. It would be good to > have some back-up for Tatsumi, even if he does decide to do this, and > there's always a lot of other FreeBSD merchandise which needs artwork > (hats, jackets, watches, stickers, condoms, etc) and we could use a > variety of themes for since it's kind of boring to only have just one. > > Thanks! > > - Jordan > > P.S. I don't know of there's any prize we can offer for "winning" > artwork, but let's just say that anyone who's artwork we select for > such purposes will definitely receive some sort of token of our > gratitude! :) > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Oct 2 18:02:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA03978 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 18:02:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gershwin.tera.com ([207.224.230.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA03951; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 18:02:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (tao.tera.com [207.108.223.55]) by gershwin.tera.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA24854; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 18:01:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.8.8/8.7.3) id SAA03611; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 18:01:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Gary Kline Message-Id: <199810030101.SAA03611@tao.thought.org> Subject: Re: New artwork for 3.0 CD cover? In-Reply-To: <10099.907371604@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at "Oct 2, 98 04:40:04 pm" To: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 18:01:45 -0700 (PDT) Cc: hosokawa@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Organization: <> thought.org: public access uNix in service... <> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG According to Jordan K. Hubbard: > Going with some new central motif seems like a good idea so long as we keep Chuck in the picture.... somehow; however. It'd be nice to have something that associated the Free with the open-source paradigm rather than as it is currently perceived: free == cheap; and since it is from Berkeley, free bears the stigma of free -> freek. And the rest of the old Berkeleyisms. Such are some mumblings I've heard from the clueless; but in the upper management slots. FWIW.... gary > -- Gary D. Kline kline@tao.thought.org Public service uNix To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Oct 2 18:09:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA05114 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 18:09:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA05090; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 18:09:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA10532; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 17:56:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) To: Gary Kline cc: hosokawa@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: New artwork for 3.0 CD cover? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 02 Oct 1998 18:01:45 PDT." <199810030101.SAA03611@tao.thought.org> Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1998 17:56:23 -0700 Message-ID: <10527.907376183@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Going with some new central motif seems like a good > idea so long as we keep Chuck in the picture.... > somehow; however. Indeed. However, if I might request of people to PLEASE keep this thread directly related to submissions of artwork. I didn't make my original request so that hundreds of art critics could all send me their suggestions about what should or should not be embodied in the new artwork. I sent it so that I could get some actual ARTWORK which would make the issue of selection a practical rather than purely academic exerience. :-) Thanks. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Sat Oct 3 11:52:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA11064 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 11:52:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from etinc.com (et-gw.etinc.com [207.252.1.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA11045 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 11:52:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dennis@etinc.com) Received: from dbsys (dbsys.etinc.com [207.252.1.18]) by etinc.com (8.8.8/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA12095 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 14:51:26 GMT Message-Id: <199810031451.OAA12095@etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@etinc.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Sat, 03 Oct 1998 15:04:02 -0400 To: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG From: Dennis Subject: device ex0: suggestion for GENERIC Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This device probe consistently hangs the system when ISA ethernet or com boards are present and should either be assigned a default address or removed. This had been a problem for at least 2 releases. db To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Sat Oct 3 11:53:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA11384 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 11:53:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from math.berkeley.edu (math.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.183.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA11377 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 11:53:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@math.berkeley.edu) Received: (from dan@localhost) by math.berkeley.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA04652; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 11:53:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 11:53:29 -0700 (PDT) From: dan@math.berkeley.edu (Dan Strick) Message-Id: <199810031853.LAA04652@math.berkeley.edu> To: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: IEEE floating point arithmetic Cc: dan@math.berkeley.edu Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am under the impression that the FreeBSD (gnu) C-compiler does IEEE 754 compatible floating poing arithmetic and that this means that floating point operations like (1.0 / 0.0) should return a special value that means +infinity. What I get is a core dump. Am I supposed to include some special math library or give some special cc command option? Thanks, Dan Strick dan@math.berkeley.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Sat Oct 3 12:31:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA17250 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 12:31:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gershwin.tera.com ([207.224.230.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA17235 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 12:31:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (tao.tera.com [207.108.223.55]) by gershwin.tera.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA03968 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 12:31:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.8.8/8.7.3) id MAA11968; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 12:31:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <19981003123110.49111@thought.org> Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 12:31:10 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Xlib only (not Xt) X-ware? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Anybody know of any X-ware ports other than rxvt and xcoral that do _not_ use the Xt intrinsics, but only Xlib? I gave up on my Xlib-only version of an application that I began in 1996 because my app grew too complex. The Xt route is simpler in some respects and a whole 'nother ballgame in others. If there are any other (significant) efforts done in Xlib-only I'd like to know. thanks, gary -- Gary D. Kline kline@tao.thought.org Public service uNix To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Sat Oct 3 12:56:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA20947 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 12:56:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from word.smith.net.au (castles246.castles.com [208.214.165.246]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA20928 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 12:56:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Received: from word.smith.net.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by word.smith.net.au (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA07458; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 12:59:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Message-Id: <199810031959.MAA07458@word.smith.net.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Dennis cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: device ex0: suggestion for GENERIC In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 03 Oct 1998 15:04:02 EDT." <199810031451.OAA12095@etinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 03 Oct 1998 12:59:46 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > This device probe consistently hangs the system when ISA > ethernet or com boards are present and should either be > assigned a default address or removed. This had been a > problem for at least 2 releases. Which ISA ethernet or "com" boards? We naturally test with a wide range of ISA ethernet and serial cards, and have never seen the 'ex' probe cause problems. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Sat Oct 3 13:07:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA22393 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 13:07:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from picnic.mat.net (picnic.mat.net [206.246.122.117]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA22387 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 13:07:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chuckr@mat.net) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost) by picnic.mat.net (8.9.1/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA13868; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 16:07:11 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 16:07:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey To: Dan Strick cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: IEEE floating point arithmetic In-Reply-To: <199810031853.LAA04652@math.berkeley.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 3 Oct 1998, Dan Strick wrote: > I am under the impression that the FreeBSD (gnu) C-compiler does > IEEE 754 compatible floating poing arithmetic and that this means > that floating point operations like (1.0 / 0.0) should return a > special value that means +infinity. What I get is a core dump. > Am I supposed to include some special math library or give some > special cc command option? You're nearly right, but there's a little more paperwork to do here. Read the 'math' man page, and see how exceptions control how the mathwork is done, and then read the fpgetmask/fpsetmask man page to show you how to set up the exceptions. If you mask the problems you want reported to you, and set up special routines (via signal handlers) to take action when you _do_ want to do something special, then stuff'll work just fine for you. I just noticed that my favorite guru book, Stevens' Advanced Programming In The Unix Environment hasn't a word about fp stuff, but it has lots on setting up signal handlers, and the math man page, together with the other one, probably will be sufficient. If you still need examples, if it were me, I'd get the sources for the octave port, and read those, which have all you could ask for as far as math. ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@glue.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and picnic (FreeBSD-current) (301) 220-2114 | and jaunt (NetBSD). ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Sat Oct 3 15:46:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA11887 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 15:46:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from roma.coe.ufrj.br (roma.coe.ufrj.br [146.164.53.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA11866; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 15:46:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jonny@jonny.eng.br) Received: (from jonny@localhost) by roma.coe.ufrj.br (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA27322; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 19:45:46 -0300 (EST) (envelope-from jonny) From: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis Message-Id: <199810032245.TAA27322@roma.coe.ufrj.br> Subject: Re: 2nd call for testers for RealTek 8139 driver In-Reply-To: <199809300344.XAA12955@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu> from Bill Paul at "Sep 29, 98 11:44:05 pm" To: wpaul@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu (Bill Paul) Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 19:45:46 -0300 (EST) Cc: SteveFriedrich@Hot-Shot.com, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG #define quoting(Bill Paul) // The 8139 isn't an NE2000 clone. RealTek does make NE2000 clone cards, // but those use the 8029 and 8039 chips, which are 10Mbps only. The 8129 // and 8139 are fast ethernet controllers (the difference between them // is the 8129 uses an external physical interface chip whereas the 8139 // has one built in). But the 8029 (and probably 8039 also) does have media select and full duplex support. Are there any plans to add support for these in the ed driver ? Jonny -- Joao Carlos Mendes Luis M.Sc. Student jonny@jonny.eng.br Universidade Federal do Rio de Janeiro "This .sig is not meant to be politically correct." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Sat Oct 3 16:13:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA16964 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 16:13:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.webspan.net (mail.webspan.net [206.154.70.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA16944 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 16:13:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from opsys@mail.webspan.net) Received: from orion.webspan.net (orion.webspan.net [206.154.70.5]) by mail.webspan.net (WEBSPAN/970608) with SMTP id TAA27877 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 19:03:38 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 19:14:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Open Systems Networking X-Sender: opsys@orion.webspan.net To: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Is PPP now being used by all 3 *BSD's? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I got off my ass and am writing an article on creating a dial on demand ppp router for small ofices and lans and had "FreeBSD" strewn throughout but decided I would rather use "*BSD" instead to show a more united front and attempt to include everyone. But I didnt know if all 3 are using the brian's ppp work? I assume so but I wanted to know for sure. Anyone? Chris -- "You both seem to be ignoring the fact that the networking market is driven by so-called 'IT professionals' these days, most of whom can't tell the difference between an ARP and a carp." -Wes Peters ===================================| Open Systems Networking And Consulting. FreeBSD 2.2.7 is available now! | Phone: 316-326-6800 -----------------------------------| 1402 N. Washington, Wellington, KS-67152 FreeBSD: The power to serve! | E-Mail: opsys@open-systems.net http://www.freebsd.org | Consulting-Network Engineering-Security ===================================| http://open-systems.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Sat Oct 3 18:22:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA03172 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 18:22:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from lestat.nas.nasa.gov (lestat.nas.nasa.gov [129.99.50.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA03095 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 18:22:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from thorpej@lestat.nas.nasa.gov) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lestat.nas.nasa.gov (8.8.8/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA24516; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 18:02:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810040102.SAA24516@lestat.nas.nasa.gov> X-Authentication-Warning: lestat.nas.nasa.gov: localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Open Systems Networking Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Is PPP now being used by all 3 *BSD's? Reply-To: Jason Thorpe From: Jason Thorpe Date: Sat, 03 Oct 1998 18:02:45 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 3 Oct 1998 19:14:57 -0400 (EDT) Open Systems Networking wrote: > I got off my ass and am writing an article on creating a dial on demand > ppp router for small ofices and lans and had "FreeBSD" strewn throughout > but decided I would rather use "*BSD" instead to show a more united front > and attempt to include everyone. But I didnt know if all 3 are using the > brian's ppp work? I assume so but I wanted to know for sure. > Anyone? NetBSD uses in-kernel PPP, not userland PPP. pppd(8) does the PPP connection setup, and control messages, and stuff... but framing et al are all handled in the kernel by if_ppp.c Note that the PPP package we use also supports demand-dial and whatnot. Jason R. Thorpe thorpej@nas.nasa.gov NASA Ames Research Center Home: +1 408 866 1912 NAS: M/S 258-5 Work: +1 650 604 0935 Moffett Field, CA 94035 Pager: +1 650 940 5942 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Sat Oct 3 18:30:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA04732 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 18:30:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles144.castles.com [208.214.165.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA04638; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 18:29:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA00613; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 18:33:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199810040133.SAA00613@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis cc: wpaul@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu (Bill Paul), SteveFriedrich@Hot-Shot.com, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2nd call for testers for RealTek 8139 driver In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 03 Oct 1998 19:45:46 -0300." <199810032245.TAA27322@roma.coe.ufrj.br> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 03 Oct 1998 18:33:22 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > #define quoting(Bill Paul) > // The 8139 isn't an NE2000 clone. RealTek does make NE2000 clone cards, > // but those use the 8029 and 8039 chips, which are 10Mbps only. The 8129 > // and 8139 are fast ethernet controllers (the difference between them > // is the 8129 uses an external physical interface chip whereas the 8139 > // has one built in). > > But the 8029 (and probably 8039 also) does have media select and full > duplex support. Are there any plans to add support for these in the > ed driver ? No, not as far as I'm aware. Full duplex on a 10Mbps card is really somewhat of a waste unless you have a 10Mbps port on a switch. There aren't that many 10Mbps switches on the market to begin with, and if you have a 100Mbps switch, connecting to it with a crappy 10Mbps card doesn't make any sense. All of the 80x9 cards I've seen have automatic media detection, so there's no need for driver support AFAIK. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Sat Oct 3 19:14:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA11952 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 19:14:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA11928 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 19:14:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA16002; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 19:13:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) To: Jason Thorpe cc: Open Systems Networking , freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Is PPP now being used by all 3 *BSD's? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 03 Oct 1998 18:02:45 PDT." <199810040102.SAA24516@lestat.nas.nasa.gov> Date: Sat, 03 Oct 1998 19:13:44 -0700 Message-ID: <15999.907467224@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > NetBSD uses in-kernel PPP, not userland PPP. pppd(8) does the PPP connection > setup, and control messages, and stuff... but framing et al are all handled > in the kernel by if_ppp.c > > Note that the PPP package we use also supports demand-dial and whatnot. Hmmm. Sounds like we really need to integrate NetBSD's kernel ppp code sometime. :-) If nothing else, it would greatly assist us in creating stand-alone ppp router floppies. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Sat Oct 3 19:28:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA15412 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 19:28:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp04.primenet.com (smtp04.primenet.com [206.165.6.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA15342 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 19:28:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert@usr06.primenet.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp04.primenet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA18565; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 19:27:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr06.primenet.com(206.165.6.206) via SMTP by smtp04.primenet.com, id smtpd018556; Sat Oct 3 19:27:51 1998 Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr06.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA19907; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 19:27:48 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199810040227.TAA19907@usr06.primenet.com> Subject: Re: anybody from the XFree86 team here ? To: shiozaki@ased.mt.nec.co.jp (Takuya SHIOZAKI) Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1998 02:27:47 +0000 (GMT) Cc: devel@XFree86.Org, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19981001111023D.shiozaki@ased.mt.nec.co.jp> from "Takuya SHIOZAKI" at Oct 1, 98 11:10:23 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > From: "Kaleb S. KEITHLEY" > Subject: Re: anybody from the XFree86 team here ? > Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 17:32:48 -0400 > Message-ID: <3612A380.5A1E9F1C@ics.com> > > > > I still think that the matter is fairly important > > > for X11 i18n, so this is my next try :-) > > It is important that we design and implement better I18N facility > for not only X11 but also any Free-Unix. > Locale implementation on the Free-Unix is poorer than > Commercial-Unix's one (for instance, the locale implementation on > Solaris-2.{5,6} is very good). That is fatal to make also I18Nized X11 > application, since it seems that X11 and XFree86 prefer to use > OS locale basically, instead of X11 own locale facility. > > Also, that matter often makes us confuse. For example, FreeBSD users > in Japan can remember such confusion by seperated libxpg4 from libc. > And Linux users in Japan can remember such confusion by changing > the standard C library from libc5 to libc6 on some distributions, too. > > Now Free-Unix locale implementation is not enough to make and use > I18N-ized applications. It is the serious probrem for us. Please look for the "xwchar" package from the X11R5 contrib, and the patches from Omron, Inc., for Japanese and Chinese support. If you are having a hard time working Altavista, the patches to the base wchar code can be obtained from: http://ftp.umu.se/pub/unix/src/X11R5_ftp/contrib-fixes/Xwchar/ Patched, this is a full-on wchar function implementation. In addition, in -current (version 3.x), see the printf(3) support for internationalization: o An optional field, consisting of a decimal digit string followed by a $, specifying the next argument to access . If this field is not provided, the argument following the last argument accessed will be used. Arguments are numbered starting at 1. If unaccessed arguments in the format string are interspersed with ones that are accessed the results will be indeterminate. This allows reordering of arguments in locale-specific strings (to be obtained from a message catalog). If you don't understand XPG/4 message cataolog maintenance, and/or string localization using string stripping, English strings as keys, and 32 bit hash indices into the catalogs using CCITT CRC32, well, there *are* people who know how this work, and are willing to answer questions. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Sat Oct 3 19:34:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA16727 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 19:34:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp01.primenet.com (smtp01.primenet.com [206.165.6.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA16641 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 19:34:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert@usr06.primenet.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp01.primenet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA11128; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 19:33:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr06.primenet.com(206.165.6.206) via SMTP by smtp01.primenet.com, id smtpd011052; Sat Oct 3 19:33:45 1998 Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr06.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA20198; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 19:33:39 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199810040233.TAA20198@usr06.primenet.com> Subject: Re: JOBOP RELIABILITY ENGINEER To: dberlin@danberlin.resnet.rochester.edu (Daniel Berlin) Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1998 02:33:39 +0000 (GMT) Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Daniel Berlin" at Oct 2, 98 01:52:01 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > If they can't spell development right (It's not "developement"), they have > larger problems. That's how I spell it, frequently. Yes, I know it's not the American spelling, but I was corrupted by an unabridged OED at an early age... Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Sat Oct 3 20:39:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA26832 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 20:39:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA26760 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 20:39:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA28044; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 22:38:29 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 22:38:29 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , Jason Thorpe Cc: Open Systems Networking , freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Is PPP now being used by all 3 *BSD's? Message-ID: <19981003223829.A27652@emsphone.com> References: <199810040102.SAA24516@lestat.nas.nasa.gov> <15999.907467224@time.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.94.3i In-Reply-To: <15999.907467224@time.cdrom.com>; from "Jordan K. Hubbard" on Sat Oct 3 19:13:44 GMT 1998 X-OS: FreeBSD 2.2.7-STABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In the last episode (Oct 03), Jordan K. Hubbard said: > > NetBSD uses in-kernel PPP, not userland PPP. pppd(8) does the PPP > > connection setup, and control messages, and stuff... but framing et > > al are all handled in the kernel by if_ppp.c > > > > Note that the PPP package we use also supports demand-dial and whatnot. > > Hmmm. Sounds like we really need to integrate NetBSD's kernel ppp > code sometime. :-) If nothing else, it would greatly assist us in > creating stand-alone ppp router floppies. ummm They're already the same code, Jordan :) There's pretty much one pppd version, based at ftp://cs.anu.edu.au/pub/software/ppp/ . 2.3.5 was brought into both 2.2.* and 3.* in June, and claims to do demand-dial and filtering like user-ppp. It still requires an external chat program, and doesn't have interactive/online configuration like user-ppp does though. -Dan Nelson dnelson@emsphone.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Sat Oct 3 20:44:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA27550 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 20:44:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA27486 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 20:44:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id CAA01794; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 02:40:50 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199810040140.CAA01794@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: Xlib only (not Xt) X-ware? To: kline@thought.org (Gary Kline) Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1998 02:40:50 +0100 (MET) Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19981003123110.49111@thought.org> from "Gary Kline" at Oct 3, 98 12:30:51 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Anybody know of any X-ware ports other than rxvt and xcoral > that do _not_ use the Xt intrinsics, but only Xlib? i think magicpoint in ports/misc only uses Xlib. cheers luigi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Sat Oct 3 22:57:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA15789 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 22:57:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Gatekeeper.Alameda.net (gatekeeper.Alameda.net [207.90.181.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA15762; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 22:57:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ulf@Gatekeeper.Alameda.net) Received: by Gatekeeper.Alameda.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) id WAA25421; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 22:56:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <19981003225627.G13610@Alameda.net> Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 22:56:27 -0700 From: Ulf Zimmermann To: Mike Smith , Joao Carlos Mendes Luis Cc: Bill Paul , SteveFriedrich@Hot-Shot.com, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2nd call for testers for RealTek 8139 driver Reply-To: ulf@Alameda.net References: <199810032245.TAA27322@roma.coe.ufrj.br> <199810040133.SAA00613@dingo.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <199810040133.SAA00613@dingo.cdrom.com>; from Mike Smith on Sat, Oct 03, 1998 at 06:33:22PM -0700 Organization: Alameda Networks, Inc. X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.6-STABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Oct 03, 1998 at 06:33:22PM -0700, Mike Smith wrote: > > #define quoting(Bill Paul) > > // The 8139 isn't an NE2000 clone. RealTek does make NE2000 clone cards, > > // but those use the 8029 and 8039 chips, which are 10Mbps only. The 8129 > > // and 8139 are fast ethernet controllers (the difference between them > > // is the 8129 uses an external physical interface chip whereas the 8139 > > // has one built in). > > > > But the 8029 (and probably 8039 also) does have media select and full > > duplex support. Are there any plans to add support for these in the > > ed driver ? > > No, not as far as I'm aware. Full duplex on a 10Mbps card is really > somewhat of a waste unless you have a 10Mbps port on a switch. There > aren't that many 10Mbps switches on the market to begin with, and if you > have a 100Mbps switch, connecting to it with a crappy 10Mbps card > doesn't make any sense. I have a very nice HP 24 port 10Mbps switch. It has also 1 100mbit uplink, plus a second slot for another 100mbit. If you do not have the mgmt module, the 10 ports are 10 half. If you have the SNMP mgmt module, you can set the 10 ports to full duplex. Price for a 24 port incl. mgmt is around $1400. I am using it for colocation. (plus I got a $750 rebatte from HP :-) ). > > All of the 80x9 cards I've seen have automatic media detection, so > there's no need for driver support AFAIK. > > -- > \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith > \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au > \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org > \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message -- Regards, Ulf. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Ulf Zimmermann, 1525 Pacific Ave., Alameda, CA-94501, #: 510-769-2936 Alameda Networks, Inc. | http://www.Alameda.net | Fax#: 510-521-5073 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message