From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Mar 23 10:51:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA07842 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 10:51:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from expert.cc.purdue.edu (kheitert@expert.cc.purdue.edu [128.210.10.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA07775 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 10:51:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kheitert@expert.cc.purdue.edu) Received: (from kheitert@localhost) by expert.cc.purdue.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA00954 for freeBSD-hardware@freeBSD.org; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 13:51:24 -0500 (EST) From: Ken Heitert Message-Id: <199803231851.NAA00954@expert.cc.purdue.edu> Subject: Hardware help desperatly needed! To: freeBSD-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 13:51:17 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have a few problems with my FreeBSD system. I know how much you probably hate having to deal will all of us begging for help so I will try to make it quick. I have recently purchases a Visual brand X terminal and cannot get the thing to run X-windows. In the X-windows administration guide by Orilley it says that Visual terminals need a special set of files and a special font server to be used. My problem is that I bought the Xterm from our university salvage and NO ONE at Purdue has or knows where to get manuals/software. I have posted to alot of news groups asking for help and have even tried writing the manufacturer (returned, address nolonger valid, forwarding expired). I thought you might be able to point me in the right direction. Thanks, Ken -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ken@purdue.edu | Ken Heitert kheitert@expert.cc.purdue.edu | kheitert@elmail.cc.purdue.edu | http://expert.cc.purdue.edu/~kheitert/ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Mar 23 11:12:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA12687 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 11:12:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sos.freebsd.dk (sos.freebsd.dk [195.8.129.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA12570 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 11:12:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sos@sos.freebsd.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by sos.freebsd.dk (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA00687; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 20:11:50 +0100 (MET) (envelope-from sos) Message-Id: <199803231911.UAA00687@sos.freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: Hardware help desperatly needed! In-Reply-To: <199803231851.NAA00954@expert.cc.purdue.edu> from Ken Heitert at "Mar 23, 98 01:51:17 pm" To: kheitert@expert.cc.purdue.edu (Ken Heitert) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 20:11:50 +0100 (MET) Cc: freeBSD-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG From: Søren Schmidt Reply-to: sos@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL30 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In reply to Ken Heitert who wrote: > I have a few problems with my FreeBSD system. I know how much you probably > hate having to deal will all of us begging for help so I will try to make it > quick. I have recently purchases a Visual brand X terminal and cannot get > the thing to run X-windows. In the X-windows administration guide by Orilley > it says that Visual terminals need a special set of files and a special font > server to be used. My problem is that I bought the Xterm from our university > salvage and NO ONE at Purdue has or knows where to get manuals/software. I > have posted to alot of news groups asking for help and have even tried writing > the manufacturer (returned, address nolonger valid, forwarding expired). I > thought you might be able to point me in the right direction. > Thanks, > Ken Hmm, without the software that the Xterminal needs to work, you are hosed. Maybe you can get the images from some kind soul on the net if the company is dead. What make & model# is the terminal in question ?? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Søren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org) FreeBSD Core Team Even more code to hack -- will it ever end .. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Mar 23 16:28:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA23017 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 16:28:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from clifford.inch.com (omar@clifford.inch.com [207.240.140.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA22996 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 16:28:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from omar@clifford.inch.com) Received: (from omar@localhost) by clifford.inch.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA06735; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 19:26:05 -0500 Message-ID: <19980323192604.12156@clifford.inch.com> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 19:26:04 -0500 From: Omar Thameen To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: CD-R / CD burners Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.81 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've seen 2 separate threads this month regarding CD-Rs, and was hoping that one would result in a recommendation for a SCSI CD-R that works with FreeBSD and hasn't been discontinued. Unfortunately, the discussions got sidetracked, so I know I'm not the only one who's still looking for a CD-R to buy. On the freebsd website, the best info I've seen is Jordan's Picks, http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/handbook109.html where he lists that these are supported: Phillips CDD 522 (Acts like a Plasmon) PLASMON RF4100 HP 4020i Our vendor is finding that these are discontinued, so I'm wondering if anyone has any other SCSI CD-Rs working. For example, does an HP 6020 work? Thanks, Omar To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Mar 23 16:33:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA24732 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 16:33:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from clifford.inch.com (omar@clifford.inch.com [207.240.140.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA24661 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 16:33:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from omar@clifford.inch.com) Received: (from omar@localhost) by clifford.inch.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA06768; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 19:30:54 -0500 Message-ID: <19980323193054.62953@clifford.inch.com> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 19:30:54 -0500 From: Omar Thameen To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: DPT and ECC memory Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.81 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org We've recently purchased a DPT RAID controller and are in the process of testing out a machine with RAID-1. (Simon, et al, thanks for all the previous help!) Is there anything special about the DPT ECC memory that they sell, apart from it being ECC? DPT lists the price at over $1100 for 16M, but my vendor is telling me that he sells 32M of 70 pin ECC memory for around $70. Why the disparity? Omar To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Mar 23 16:58:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA28489 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 16:58:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA28479 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 16:58:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA28060; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 16:58:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) To: Omar Thameen cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CD-R / CD burners In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 23 Mar 1998 19:26:04 EST." <19980323192604.12156@clifford.inch.com> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 16:58:35 -0800 Message-ID: <28057.890701115@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Our vendor is finding that these are discontinued, so I'm wondering > if anyone has any other SCSI CD-Rs working. For example, does an > HP 6020 work? Yes, I'm using one now. I'll update the hardware page accordingly, thanks for the reminder! Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Mar 23 16:59:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA28597 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 16:59:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from misery.sdf.com (misery.sdf.com [204.244.213.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA28589 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 16:59:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom@sdf.com) Received: from tom by misery.sdf.com with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 0yHHh0-0004WL-00; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 16:35:50 -0800 Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 16:35:49 -0800 (PST) From: Tom To: Omar Thameen cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DPT and ECC memory In-Reply-To: <19980323193054.62953@clifford.inch.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 23 Mar 1998, Omar Thameen wrote: > Is there anything special about the DPT ECC memory that they sell, > apart from it being ECC? DPT lists the price at over $1100 for 16M, > but my vendor is telling me that he sells 32M of 70 pin ECC memory for > around $70. Why the disparity? The DPT ECC memory is custom made, and has more ECC bits than normal parity memory. Its main selling point, is that you can reformat your hard drives with a larger sector size, and run ECC end-to-end. This is probably excessive data security for most. BTW, you should always put regular parity memory into a DPT controler. This is definitely not excessive. Make sure your system memory is parity too. Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Mar 23 18:12:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA11994 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 18:12:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from haleakala.aloha.net (root@haleakala.aloha.net [204.94.112.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA11909 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 18:12:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from volack@aloha.net) Received: from volack.volack (oahu-411.u.aloha.net [207.12.1.155]) by haleakala.aloha.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA13821 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 16:12:14 -1000 (HST) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 16:12:01 -1000 (HST) From: "Joseph J. Volack, Jr., PE" X-Sender: volack@volack.volack To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: CR - R / CD burners Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >From jkh@time.cdrom.com Mon Mar 23 16:07:58 1998 Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 16:58:35 -0800 From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" To: Omar Thameen Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CD-R / CD burners >> Our vendor is finding that these are discontinued, so I'm wondering >> if anyone has any other SCSI CD-Rs working. For example, does an >> HP 6020 work? > >Yes, I'm using one now. I'll update the hardware page accordingly, >thanks for the reminder! > > Jordan > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message Do you know of a supplier? Seems the catalogs are listing IDE drives. ******************************************* * Joseph J. Volack, Jr., PE * * Unix, VMS, and NT Systems * * Multiprotocol Multiventor Data Networks * * Custom Designed Network Appliances * * (808) 592-8737 * ******************************************* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Mar 23 18:18:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA13163 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 18:18:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA13157 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 18:18:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA12115; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 18:18:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) To: "Joseph J. Volack, Jr., PE" cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CR - R / CD burners In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 23 Mar 1998 16:12:01 -1000." Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 18:18:01 -0800 Message-ID: <12112.890705881@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Do you know of a supplier? Seems the catalogs are listing IDE drives. I do not, sorry. :( Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Mar 23 18:39:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA16241 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 18:39:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp1.teleport.com (smtp1.teleport.com [192.108.254.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA16229 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 18:39:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mrl@teleport.com) Received: from user2.teleport.com (usertest.teleport.com [192.108.254.19]) by smtp1.teleport.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA15230; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 18:39:52 -0800 (PST) From: Mostyn Lewis Received: (from mrl@localhost) by user2.teleport.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id SAA21989; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 18:39:52 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199803240239.SAA21989@user2.teleport.com> Subject: Re: CR - R / CD burners To: volack@aloha.net (Joseph J. Volack, Jr., PE) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 18:39:51 -0800 (PST) Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Joseph J. Volack, Jr., PE" at Mar 23, 98 04:12:01 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I used a Ricoh 6201S to burn CDs on FreeBSD using cdrecord. Haven't used it as a "classic FreeBSD worm", though - but there are mods if you want to use it this way, also. P.S. The CDs we RockRidge/Joliet combined. Haven't tried audio yet. Mostyn To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Mar 23 23:15:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA06738 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 23:15:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from salmon.heicomm.net (addr-51.heicomm.net [206.251.81.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA06721 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 23:15:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from john@salmon.heicomm.net) Received: from localhost (john@localhost) by salmon.heicomm.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA05476 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 23:15:24 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 23:15:24 -0800 (PST) From: "John A. Hengstler" To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: 16 port Boca Board Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Friends, I have a 16 port boca board which has worked well on my 486dx. I have recently moved the board to my P166, but for some reason some of the ports are not recognized in the kernel boot up probe. Usually will lose a couple in the middle of the stream, or the last few ports including the master. This means I have to reboot and hope at least the master is found in the next probe. Has anyone ever had this problem before? John Hengstler john@hei.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Mar 24 01:10:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA25131 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 01:10:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from casimir.easynet.fr (casimir.easynet.fr [195.114.64.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA25112 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 01:10:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rama@casimir.easynet.fr) Received: (qmail 15593 invoked by uid 1001); 24 Mar 1998 10:05:50 -0000 Message-ID: <19980324100550.51284@casimir.easynet.fr> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:05:50 +0000 From: David Ramahefason To: Tom Cc: Omar Thameen , freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DPT and ECC memory Reply-To: David Ramahefason References: <19980323193054.62953@clifford.inch.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88 In-Reply-To: ; from Tom on Mon, Mar 23, 1998 at 04:35:49PM -0800 Organization: Systems Team Easynet France SA X-Operating-System: FreeBSD Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Quoting Tom (tom@sdf.com): > Hi, What are the DPT supported cards model ?? Thks -- /David Ramahefason Administrateur Systeme/Reseau/ /rama@easynet.fr Easynet France SA / /0144547031 / To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Mar 24 05:00:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA23815 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 05:00:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from maild.telia.com (root@maild.telia.com [194.22.190.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA23737 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 05:00:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ronny@telia.net) Received: from internwww.telia.net (root@internwww.telia.net [194.22.190.30]) by maild.telia.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA22796 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 14:00:05 +0100 (CET) Received: from pc25 (pc25-ncc-stockholm.telia.net [194.237.170.26]) by internwww.telia.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA16620 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 13:59:59 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199803241259.NAA16620@internwww.telia.net> X-Sender: ronny@internwww.telia.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 14:00:04 +0100 To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG From: Ronny Zellhann Subject: UltraIDE controller Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello Did recently get a Acard PCI UltraIDE controller (AEC6210UF) but can't get FreeBSD to find it, Just wondering if anybode have tried such a card with FreeBSD. I tried with versio 2.2.5 AND 3.0-SNAP Thanks Ronny Zellhann To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Mar 26 02:02:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA12606 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 02:02:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from colossus.dyn.ml.org (dburr@206-18-115-150.la.inreach.net [206.18.115.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA12536; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 02:01:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dburr@colossus.dyn.ml.org) Received: (from dburr@localhost) by colossus.dyn.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id CAA05481; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 02:05:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dburr) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.2 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 02:05:09 -0800 (PST) Organization: Computer Help From: Donald Burr To: FreeBSD SCSI , FreeBSD Hardware Subject: CD-burners compatible with FreeBSD? Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Can anyone list the SCSI (and IDE/ATAPI, if applicable) CD-burners that are compatible with FreeBSD (either -STABLE or -CURRENT)? I'm considering purchasing one, but don't want to accidentally buy an unsupported model. Thanks! - --- Donald Burr - Ask me for my PGP key | PGP: Your WWW HomePage: http://DonaldBurr.base.org/ ICQ #1347455 | right to Address: P.O. Box 91212, Santa Barbara, CA 93190-1212 | 'Net privacy. Phone: (805) 957-9666 FAX: (800) 492-5954 | USE IT. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBNRooVPjpixuAwagxAQENjAP/UMbGvY7AaWwyw18qcnKwuRm+qfbVJ/wx GuvoGkw+XsCKRDNdPzh+aMI+/I6Qskn7XuG3sIvvkId6SMiEFGWtNywBfPJmjZwN vQ7145o3lxTYlsEpluq8dpAKOFQH/oT+XmKyfXkgi6JjjGItg+s5iIl3bg8UDXyC V7n71zMd4Tk= =zHEs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Mar 26 04:16:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA25399 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 04:16:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from onizuka.tb.9715.org (DuKGptU3UpZ9KcIez86FFKMlgn/Kj3EV@onizuka.tb.9715.org [194.97.84.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA25364; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 04:16:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from torstenb@onizuka.tb.9715.org) Received: by onizuka.tb.9715.org via sendmail with stdio id for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 13:16:00 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: From: torstenb@onizuka.tb.9715.org (Torsten Blum) Subject: Re: CD-burners compatible with FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: from Donald Burr at "Mar 26, 98 02:05:09 am" To: dburr@POBoxes.com (Donald Burr) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 13:16:00 +0100 (CET) Cc: freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Donald Burr wrote: > Can anyone list the SCSI (and IDE/ATAPI, if applicable) CD-burners that are > compatible with FreeBSD (either -STABLE or -CURRENT)? I'm considering > purchasing one, but don't want to accidentally buy an unsupported model. I got the new Plextor CDR a couple of weeks ago: scbus1 target 4 lun 0: type 5 removable SCSI 2 It uses the MMC Comandset (SCSI3 Multimedia Commandset) and is supported by cdrecord (in ports). -tb To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Mar 26 04:42:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA29496 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 04:42:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns1.dpt.com (ns1.dpt.com [206.138.241.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA29486 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 04:42:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@bohica.net) Received: from deathstar.deathstar.dpt.com (deathstar.dpt.com [198.242.63.87]) by ns1.dpt.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA12956 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 07:37:58 -0500 Received: by deathstar.deathstar.dpt.com [198.242.63.87] (NX5.67g/NX3.0M) id AA01469; Thu, 26 Mar 98 07:37:11 -0500 Reply-To: Mark Gregory Salyzyn Message-Id: <9803261237.AA01469@deathstar.deathstar.dpt.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 4.2mach v148) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.148) From: Mark Gregory Salyzyn Date: Thu, 26 Mar 98 07:37:10 -0500 To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DPT and ECC memory Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In article <19980323193054.62953@clifford.inch.com>, you wrote: >Is there anything special about the DPT ECC memory that they sell, >apart from it being ECC? DPT lists the price at over $1100 for 16M, >but my vendor is telling me that he sells 32M of 70 pin ECC memory for >around $70. Why the disparity? DPT is the only company producing ECC SIMMs in any quantity from what I understand, it is a specialized market, really tailored to the needs of the data conscious. not sure if the price quote you got was very accurate though. You can use non-parity SIMMs on some DPT cards if you feel you are somewhat fault tolerant. Personally, I use parity memory, works fine. You can not mix and match memory types. I seriously doubt 32M/$70 for ECC, he must have confused it with EDO memory. I would be interested in the name of your vendor just in case I have a mistaken view. Sincerely -- Mark Salyzyn My opinions are my own. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Mar 26 06:18:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA11614 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 06:18:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from EDISWITCH2.uninet.net.mx (EDISWITCH2.uninet.net.mx [200.33.150.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA11523; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 06:17:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eculp@ver1.telmex.net.mx) Received: from mc.mexcom.net (aca1-15.uninet.net.mx [200.38.135.15] (may be forged)) by EDISWITCH2.uninet.net.mx (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA10746; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 08:10:44 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <351A6440.2EE0322B@ver1.telmex.net.mx> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 08:20:48 -0600 From: Edwin Culp Organization: Mexico Communicates, S.A. de C.V. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; Linux 2.0.18 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG CC: freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CD-burners compatible with FreeBSD? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Torsten Blum wrote: > > Donald Burr wrote: > > > Can anyone list the SCSI (and IDE/ATAPI, if applicable) CD-burners that are > > compatible with FreeBSD (either -STABLE or -CURRENT)? I'm considering > > purchasing one, but don't want to accidentally buy an unsupported model. > > I got the new Plextor CDR a couple of weeks ago: > scbus1 target 4 lun 0: type 5 removable SCSI 2 > > It uses the MMC Comandset (SCSI3 Multimedia Commandset) and is supported > by cdrecord (in ports). > > -tb Anyone have any experience with Smart and Friendly? http://www.smartandfriendly.com/cdrw426specse.html Thanks ed P.S. Has anyone been able to use an enhanced IDA drive? Thanks again ed To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Mar 26 06:19:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA12283 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 06:19:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sos.freebsd.dk (sos.freebsd.dk [195.8.129.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA12211; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 06:19:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sos@sos.freebsd.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by sos.freebsd.dk (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA12584; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:19:12 +0100 (MET) (envelope-from sos) Message-Id: <199803261419.PAA12584@sos.freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: CD-burners compatible with FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: from Torsten Blum at "Mar 26, 98 01:16:00 pm" To: torstenb@onizuka.tb.9715.org (Torsten Blum) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:19:12 +0100 (MET) Cc: dburr@POBoxes.com, freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG From: Søren Schmidt Reply-to: sos@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL30 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In reply to Torsten Blum who wrote: > Donald Burr wrote: > > > Can anyone list the SCSI (and IDE/ATAPI, if applicable) CD-burners that are > > compatible with FreeBSD (either -STABLE or -CURRENT)? I'm considering > > purchasing one, but don't want to accidentally buy an unsupported model. > > I got the new Plextor CDR a couple of weeks ago: > scbus1 target 4 lun 0: type 5 removable SCSI 2 I got a IDE CDRW drive from FreeBSD INC, there will be a driver for that as soon as I get a little more time.... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Søren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org) FreeBSD Core Team Even more code to hack -- will it ever end .. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Mar 26 07:17:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA22709 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 07:17:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from EDISWITCH2.uninet.net.mx (EDISWITCH2.uninet.net.mx [200.33.150.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA22428; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 07:16:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eculp@ver1.telmex.net.mx) Received: from sunix (tol1-106.uninet.net.mx [200.38.135.106] (may be forged)) by EDISWITCH2.uninet.net.mx (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA16710; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:09:10 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <351A726B.2A525B27@ver1.telmex.net.mx> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:21:46 -0600 From: Edwin Culp Organization: Mexico Communicates, S.C. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; Linux 2.0.14 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sos@FreeBSD.ORG CC: Torsten Blum , dburr@POBoxes.com, freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CD-burners compatible with FreeBSD? References: <199803261419.PAA12584@sos.freebsd.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Søren Schmidt wrote: > > In reply to Torsten Blum who wrote: > > Donald Burr wrote: > > > > > Can anyone list the SCSI (and IDE/ATAPI, if applicable) CD-burners that are > > > compatible with FreeBSD (either -STABLE or -CURRENT)? I'm considering > > > purchasing one, but don't want to accidentally buy an unsupported model. > > > > I got the new Plextor CDR a couple of weeks ago: > > scbus1 target 4 lun 0: type 5 removable SCSI 2 > > I got a IDE CDRW drive from FreeBSD INC, there will be a driver for that > as soon as I get a little more time.... > Would it be safe to assume :-) that it should work with most/all IDE CDRW's? Thanks ed To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Mar 26 08:19:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA07767 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 08:19:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sos.freebsd.dk (sos.freebsd.dk [195.8.129.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA07729; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 08:19:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sos@sos.freebsd.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by sos.freebsd.dk (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA12775; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 17:19:33 +0100 (MET) (envelope-from sos) Message-Id: <199803261619.RAA12775@sos.freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: CD-burners compatible with FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: <351A726B.2A525B27@ver1.telmex.net.mx> from Edwin Culp at "Mar 26, 98 09:21:46 am" To: eculp@ver1.telmex.net.mx (Edwin Culp) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 17:19:32 +0100 (MET) Cc: sos@FreeBSD.ORG, torstenb@onizuka.tb.9715.org, dburr@POBoxes.com, freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG From: Søren Schmidt Reply-to: sos@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL30 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In reply to Edwin Culp who wrote: > Søren Schmidt wrote: > > > > I got a IDE CDRW drive from FreeBSD INC, there will be a driver for that > > as soon as I get a little more time.... > > > Would it be safe to assume :-) that it should work with most/all IDE CDRW's? Hmm, dunno really, they seem to be created equal, but we'll see about that when I get the driver done. It will be rudimentary at first, and kludged onto our current atapi driver subsytem, a rewrite of that will follow, but is a "somewhat" longer term solution.... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Søren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org) FreeBSD Core Team Even more code to hack -- will it ever end .. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Mar 26 08:23:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA08444 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 08:23:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from clifford.inch.com (omar@clifford.inch.com [207.240.140.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA08428 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 08:23:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from omar@clifford.inch.com) Received: (from omar@localhost) by clifford.inch.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA29859; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 11:20:20 -0500 Message-ID: <19980326112020.04093@clifford.inch.com> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 11:20:20 -0500 From: Omar Thameen To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DPT and ECC memory References: <19980323193054.62953@clifford.inch.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.81 In-Reply-To: <19980323193054.62953@clifford.inch.com>; from Omar Thameen on Mon, Mar 23, 1998 at 07:30:54PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Mar 23, 1998 at 07:30:54PM -0500, I wrote: > > Is there anything special about the DPT ECC memory that they sell, [for their RAID controllers] > apart from it being ECC? DPT lists the price at over $1100 for 16M, > but my vendor is telling me that he sells 32M of 70 pin ECC memory for > around $70. Why the disparity? Here's the company line I got from DPT: DPT ECC Regular ECC ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 1. It will correct full 32 bit Based on Hamming Coding. word errors in a 512 byte page 2. Hardware implemetation - Must access data in 4 or 8 byte no overhead on Motorola chunks processor on the HBA - only when corrections needed. (not 512 byte chunks) 3. Corrects multi-bit errors Corrects only single byte. in word. 4. Overhead -3% (Overhead Has 12.5 to 21.9% overhead +system resource usage) 5. Raid Tower hot swaps can cause (sometimes) a glitch and crash the system _ DPT ECC SIMMS can prevent this. (electrical spike becomes odd bit which is taken care of by correction). I can't comment on the the claims, but at >$1100 vs. $70, we'll be going with regular ECC. -- Omar To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Mar 26 09:04:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA15578 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:04:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from misery.sdf.com (misery.sdf.com [204.244.213.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA15531 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:04:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom@sdf.com) Received: from tom by misery.sdf.com with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 0yIFhZ-0006m8-00; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 08:40:25 -0800 Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 08:40:24 -0800 (PST) From: Tom To: Mark Gregory Salyzyn cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DPT and ECC memory In-Reply-To: <9803261237.AA01469@deathstar.deathstar.dpt.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 26 Mar 1998, Mark Gregory Salyzyn wrote: > You can use non-parity SIMMs on some DPT cards if you feel you are > somewhat fault tolerant. Personally, I use parity memory, works fine. You > can not mix and match memory types. > > I seriously doubt 32M/$70 for ECC, he must have confused it with EDO > memory. I would be interested in the name of your vendor just in case I > have a mistaken view. DPT ECC memory is very different from regular parity/ECC memory. It contains more parity bits than normal, and is extremely expensive. DPT ECC memory can only be used in DPT cards. Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Mar 26 10:07:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA26224 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 10:07:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from EDISWITCH2.uninet.net.mx (EDISWITCH2.uninet.net.mx [200.33.150.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA25904; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 10:06:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eculp@ver1.telmex.net.mx) Received: from sunix (tol1-106.uninet.net.mx [200.38.135.106] (may be forged)) by EDISWITCH2.uninet.net.mx (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA09308; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 11:57:40 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <351A99F7.7B9FA2FA@ver1.telmex.net.mx> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 12:09:59 -0600 From: Edwin Culp Organization: Mexico Communicates, S.C. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; Linux 2.0.14 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sos@FreeBSD.ORG CC: torstenb@onizuka.tb.9715.org, dburr@POBoxes.com, freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CD-burners compatible with FreeBSD? References: <199803261619.RAA12775@sos.freebsd.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Søren Schmidt wrote: > > In reply to Edwin Culp who wrote: > > Søren Schmidt wrote: > > > > > > I got a IDE CDRW drive from FreeBSD INC, there will be a driver for that > > > as soon as I get a little more time.... > > > > > Would it be safe to assume :-) that it should work with most/all IDE CDRW's? > > Hmm, dunno really, they seem to be created equal, but we'll see about > that when I get the driver done. > It will be rudimentary at first, and kludged onto our current atapi > driver subsytem, a rewrite of that will follow, but is a "somewhat" > longer term solution.... > Thanks a lot. ed To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Mar 26 11:07:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA05613 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 11:07:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dirc.bris.ac.uk (dirc.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA05600 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 11:07:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Tim.Borgeaud@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from zeus.bris.ac.uk by dirc.bris.ac.uk with SMTP-PRIV (PP) with ESMTP; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 19:07:09 +0000 Received: (from phtlb@localhost) by zeus.bris.ac.uk (8.8.8/8.8.7) id TAA03092 for freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 19:06:35 GMT From: Tim Borgeaud Message-Id: <199803261906.TAA03092@zeus.bris.ac.uk> Subject: cdrecord and Ricoh1420c To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 19:06:34 +0000 (GMT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have a ricoh 1420c CDR and adaptec 1505 (aic driver) scsi card. I am getting errors when trying to use the cdrecord port (which does support this cdr drive). The error I am getting is cdrecord: Undefined error 0. test unit ready: scsi sendcmd fatal error I am away from my computer at the moment so I can't get a full print out of the output from cdrecord. The drive probes as cd0c and works fine as a cdrom. I have made the link from /dev/scgx to /dev/cd0c. I'm not using the su driver. Any ideas? Tim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Mar 27 04:50:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA19881 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 04:50:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.keyworld.net (root@mail.keyworld.net [194.21.164.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA19876 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 04:50:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from psycho@keyworld.net) Received: from chrism (ppp75.keyworld.net [194.21.164.138]) by mail.keyworld.net (8.8.5/8.8.4) with ESMTP id NAA07377; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 13:47:25 +0100 Message-Id: <199803271247.NAA07377@mail.keyworld.net> From: "Christopher Martin at Home" To: "Omar Thameen" , Subject: Re: DPT and ECC memory Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 13:50:38 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > > I can't comment on the the claims, but at >$1100 vs. $70, we'll be > going with regular ECC. > > -- > Omar What applications are you using this card in? How critical is it for you? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Mar 27 12:47:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA07526 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 12:47:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from webchat2.wbs.net (ws3.wbs.net [207.88.172.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA07508 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 12:47:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bob@wbs.net) Received: (from bob@localhost) by webchat2.wbs.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) id MAA25190; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 12:47:23 -0800 Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 12:47:23 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Lash To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: 12.0 GB Quantum Bigfoot TX IDE seen as 8.4 GB Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I put three 12.0 GB Quantum Bigfoot TX IDE drives on my freeBSD 2.2.5 machine, and BIOS correctly identifies the drives as 12 GB, but freeBSD thinks they are only 8.4 GB: BIOS (LBA Mode ON): 23,361 cyl / 16 heads / 63 sectors per track ==> 23,547,888 sectors (X 512 bytes/sec = 12.0 GB) freeBSD FDISK shows: 1078 cyl / 243 heads / 63 sec per track ==> 16,503,102 sectors (X 512 bytes/sec = 8.4 GB) When I manually enter the correct geometry into FDISK (23361/16/63), it correctly computes the number of sectors for 12 GIG (23,547,888), but unfortunately still behaves as though there were no more than 8.4 GIG available --- the (C)reate option maxes out at 16514001 sectors. Is freeBSD actually limited to 8.4 GIGs per IDE drive? ===================================================== P.S. These 12 GIG drives only cost $80 more than their 8 GIG counterparts, so its not the end of the world if 8 GIGs is the limit. Still, having the extra space would be awesome... :) :) Best wishes, Bob Lash bob@wbs.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Mar 27 13:18:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA14213 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 13:18:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sos.freebsd.dk (sos.freebsd.dk [195.8.129.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA14119 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 13:17:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sos@sos.freebsd.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by sos.freebsd.dk (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA15703; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 22:16:29 +0100 (MET) (envelope-from sos) Message-Id: <199803272116.WAA15703@sos.freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: 12.0 GB Quantum Bigfoot TX IDE seen as 8.4 GB In-Reply-To: from Bob Lash at "Mar 27, 98 12:47:23 pm" To: bob@wbs.net (Bob Lash) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 22:16:28 +0100 (MET) Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG From: Søren Schmidt Reply-to: sos@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL30 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In reply to Bob Lash who wrote: > I put three 12.0 GB Quantum Bigfoot TX IDE drives on my freeBSD 2.2.5 > machine, and BIOS correctly identifies the drives as 12 GB, but freeBSD > thinks they are only 8.4 GB: > > BIOS (LBA Mode ON): 23,361 cyl / 16 heads / 63 sectors per track > > ==> 23,547,888 sectors (X 512 bytes/sec = 12.0 GB) > > freeBSD FDISK shows: 1078 cyl / 243 heads / 63 sec per track > > ==> 16,503,102 sectors (X 512 bytes/sec = 8.4 GB) Have you tried it with the BIOS in CHS mode ?? > When I manually enter the correct geometry into FDISK (23361/16/63), it > correctly computes the number of sectors for 12 GIG (23,547,888), but > unfortunately still behaves as though there were no more than 8.4 GIG > available --- the (C)reate option maxes out at 16514001 sectors. > > Is freeBSD actually limited to 8.4 GIGs per IDE drive? > ===================================================== No it shouldn't be.. > P.S. These 12 GIG drives only cost $80 more than their 8 GIG > counterparts, so its not the end of the world if 8 GIGs is the > limit. Still, having the extra space would be awesome... :) :) Send me one, and I'll make it work :) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Søren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org) FreeBSD Core Team Even more code to hack -- will it ever end .. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Mar 27 14:46:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA05258 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 14:46:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA05241 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 14:46:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA09382; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 14:46:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) To: Bob Lash cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 12.0 GB Quantum Bigfoot TX IDE seen as 8.4 GB In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 27 Mar 1998 12:47:23 PST." Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 14:46:40 -0800 Message-ID: <9378.891038800@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I put three 12.0 GB Quantum Bigfoot TX IDE drives on my freeBSD 2.2.5 > machine, and BIOS correctly identifies the drives as 12 GB, but freeBSD > thinks they are only 8.4 GB: What happens if you turn LBA mode off in your BIOS/IDE controller setup? Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Mar 27 17:17:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA02554 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 17:17:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from webchat2.wbs.net (ws3.wbs.net [207.88.172.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA02515; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 17:17:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bob@wbs.net) Received: (from bob@localhost) by webchat2.wbs.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) id RAA29630; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 17:17:05 -0800 Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 17:17:04 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Lash To: Søren Schmidt cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 12.0 GB Quantum Bigfoot TX IDE seen as 8.4 GB In-Reply-To: <199803272116.WAA15703@sos.freebsd.dk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id RAA02516 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 27 Mar 1998, Søren Schmidt wrote: > In reply to Bob Lash who wrote: > > I put three 12.0 GB Quantum Bigfoot TX IDE drives on my freeBSD 2.2.5 > > machine, and BIOS correctly identifies the drives as 12 GB, but freeBSD > > thinks they are only 8.4 GB: -SNIP- > > Have you tried it with the BIOS in CHS mode ?? > Yes, we tried using CHS, LBA, and LARGE modes... all of them showed as 12 GIG under BIOS, but only 8.4 under freeBSD. Interestingly, when in CHS mode, BIOS shows: 23361 CYL / 16 HD / 63 SEC and freeBSD sees: 16383 CYL / 16 HD / 63 SEC > > Is freeBSD actually limited to 8.4 GIGs per IDE drive? > > ===================================================== > > No it shouldn't be.. Excellent... > Send me one, and I'll make it work :) If we have to put more of these boxes together, I will definately recommend it to the other folks involved in my project! :) :) Best wishes, Bob Lash bob@wbs.net > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > Søren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org) FreeBSD Core Team > Even more code to hack -- will it ever end > .. > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Mar 27 18:02:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA09338 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 18:02:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from webchat2.wbs.net (ws3.wbs.net [207.88.172.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA09320 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 18:02:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bob@wbs.net) Received: (from bob@localhost) by webchat2.wbs.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) id SAA30285; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 18:02:23 -0800 Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 18:02:23 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Lash To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 12.0 GB Quantum Bigfoot TX IDE seen as 8.4 GB In-Reply-To: <9378.891038800@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > What happens if you turn LBA mode off in your BIOS/IDE controller > setup? > > Jordan With LBA off, BIOS defaults to CHS, and as previously mentioned shows 23361 cyl/16 hd/63 sec on the BIOS display (still 12 GIG), but feeBSD seems to max out at 16383 cyl/16 hd/63 sec (still adds up to 8.4 GIG)... Interestingly, I found this item (from Aug 96) that suggests there may be an 8 GIG limit... "With BIOS LBA, the hard disk size limitation is virtually removed (well, pushed up to 8 Gigabytes anyway). If you have an LBA BIOS, you can put FreeBSD or any OS anywhere you want and not hit the 1024 cylinder limit." -Jay Richmond /jayrich@sysc.com / 6 August 1996 Installing and Using FreeBSD With Other Operating Systems (http://www.freebsd.org/tutorials/multios/multios.html) Bob Lash bob@wbs.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Mar 27 18:30:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA14101 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 18:30:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA14090 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 18:30:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bde@godzilla.zeta.org.au) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA13946; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 13:25:33 +1100 Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 13:25:33 +1100 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199803280225.NAA13946@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: bob@wbs.net, jkh@time.cdrom.com Subject: Re: 12.0 GB Quantum Bigfoot TX IDE seen as 8.4 GB Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >With LBA off, BIOS defaults to CHS, and as previously mentioned shows 23361 >cyl/16 hd/63 sec on the BIOS display (still 12 GIG), but feeBSD seems to >max out at 16383 cyl/16 hd/63 sec (still adds up to 8.4 GIG)... FreeBSD always uses CHS with whatever limits the drive reports (max 65535 cyl/16 hd/255 sec) (128G). Drives don't report more than 63 sectors due to BIOS braindamage. Apparently some drives don't report more than 16383 cylinders. I don't know of any BIOS bugs for >= 16384 cylinders. CHS BIOSes break at only 1024 cylinders. FreeBSD used to have a sign extension bug for >= 32768 cylinders. >Interestingly, I found this item (from Aug 96) that suggests there may be >an 8 GIG limit... > > "With BIOS LBA, the hard disk size limitation is virtually removed (well, > pushed up to 8 Gigabytes anyway). If you have an LBA BIOS, you can put > FreeBSD or any OS anywhere you want and not hit the 1024 cylinder limit." A BIOS limit. FreeBSD doesn't use the BIOS except for booting, but may be affected by drives dumbing down things so that BIOSes sort of work. Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Mar 28 21:04:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA29836 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 21:04:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA29830 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 21:04:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jmastrol@Venus.mcs.net) Received: from Venus.mcs.net (jmastrol@Venus.mcs.net [192.160.127.92]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.8.7/8.8.2) with ESMTP id XAA11342 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 23:04:21 -0600 (CST) Received: (from jmastrol@localhost) by Venus.mcs.net (8.8.7/8.8.2) id XAA28392; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 23:04:20 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <19980328230419.24086@mcs.net> Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 23:04:19 -0600 From: John Mastrolia To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: SCSI card difficulties Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am getting a few error messages with my Symbios 53C860 based SCSI card that seem a bit unusual. First, I'm running FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE on an asus P55T2P4 3.10 motherboard with an AMD K6-233. Devices include two Seagate ST31200N's, a DEC RZ26L, an External Zip (SCSI), a Plextor 12/20-PLEX cd-rom, and (the problem) an Exabyte 4200-c DAT tape drive. With the ncr 860 card the tape drive works as expected faithfully completing backups. The errors only occur on start up. Here's a snippit of dmesg: --- begin --- (ncr0:4:0): "EXABYTE EXB-4200c 149" type 1 removable SCSI 2 st0(ncr0:4:0): Sequential-Access ncr0: SCSI phase error fixup: CCB address misma tch (0xf0852400 != 0xf06a6400) np->ccb = 0xf06a6400 st0(ncr0:4:0): phase change 6-7 6@004bf5d8 resid=4. st0(ncr0:4:0): asynchronous. st0(ncr0:4:0): M_REJECT received (4:8). density code 0x13, drive empty --- end --- The device is setup to 5MB/sec with queue tags disabled, 8 bit width in the 860's setup. The machine is running flawlessly and I did not notice any problems until I made the mistake of upgrading the SCSI card to an NCR 53C875. The darn system would not boot until the tape was removed from the chain. I have the error messages if anyone is interested, but thought I would address these oddities with my narrow card before jumping further into the fire. Any suggestions or info appreciated. Thanks in advance. -- jmastrol@mcs.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message