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I have a few problems with my FreeBSD system. I know how much you probably
hate having to deal will all of us begging for help so I will try to make it
quick. I have recently purchases a Visual brand X terminal and cannot get
the thing to run X-windows. In the X-windows administration guide by Orilley
it says that Visual terminals need a special set of files and a special font
server to be used. My problem is that I bought the Xterm from our university
salvage and NO ONE at Purdue has or knows where to get manuals/software. I
have posted to alot of news groups asking for help and have even tried writing
the manufacturer (returned, address nolonger valid, forwarding expired). I
thought you might be able to point me in the right direction.
Thanks,
Ken
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In reply to Ken Heitert who wrote:
> I have a few problems with my FreeBSD system. I know how much you probably
> hate having to deal will all of us begging for help so I will try to make it
> quick. I have recently purchases a Visual brand X terminal and cannot get
> the thing to run X-windows. In the X-windows administration guide by Orilley
> it says that Visual terminals need a special set of files and a special font
> server to be used. My problem is that I bought the Xterm from our university
> salvage and NO ONE at Purdue has or knows where to get manuals/software. I
> have posted to alot of news groups asking for help and have even tried writing
> the manufacturer (returned, address nolonger valid, forwarding expired). I
> thought you might be able to point me in the right direction.
> Thanks,
> Ken
Hmm, without the software that the Xterminal needs to work, you are
hosed. Maybe you can get the images from some kind soul on the net
if the company is dead.
What make & model# is the terminal in question ??
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From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Mar 23 16:28:34 1998
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I've seen 2 separate threads this month regarding CD-Rs, and was
hoping that one would result in a recommendation for a SCSI CD-R
that works with FreeBSD and hasn't been discontinued. Unfortunately,
the discussions got sidetracked, so I know I'm not the only one
who's still looking for a CD-R to buy.
On the freebsd website, the best info I've seen is Jordan's
Picks, http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/handbook109.html
where he lists that these are supported:
Phillips CDD 522 (Acts like a Plasmon)
PLASMON RF4100
HP 4020i
Our vendor is finding that these are discontinued, so I'm wondering
if anyone has any other SCSI CD-Rs working. For example, does an
HP 6020 work?
Thanks,
Omar
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From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Mar 23 16:33:29 1998
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We've recently purchased a DPT RAID controller and are in the process
of testing out a machine with RAID-1. (Simon, et al, thanks for all
the previous help!)
Is there anything special about the DPT ECC memory that they sell,
apart from it being ECC? DPT lists the price at over $1100 for 16M,
but my vendor is telling me that he sells 32M of 70 pin ECC memory for
around $70. Why the disparity?
Omar
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From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Mar 23 16:58:33 1998
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> Our vendor is finding that these are discontinued, so I'm wondering
> if anyone has any other SCSI CD-Rs working. For example, does an
> HP 6020 work?
Yes, I'm using one now. I'll update the hardware page accordingly,
thanks for the reminder!
Jordan
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On Mon, 23 Mar 1998, Omar Thameen wrote:
> Is there anything special about the DPT ECC memory that they sell,
> apart from it being ECC? DPT lists the price at over $1100 for 16M,
> but my vendor is telling me that he sells 32M of 70 pin ECC memory for
> around $70. Why the disparity?
The DPT ECC memory is custom made, and has more ECC bits than normal
parity memory. Its main selling point, is that you can reformat your hard
drives with a larger sector size, and run ECC end-to-end. This is
probably excessive data security for most.
BTW, you should always put regular parity memory into a DPT controler.
This is definitely not excessive. Make sure your system memory is parity
too.
Tom
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>From jkh@time.cdrom.com Mon Mar 23 16:07:58 1998
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 16:58:35 -0800
From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@time.cdrom.com>
To: Omar Thameen <omar@clifford.inch.com>
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Subject: Re: CD-R / CD burners
>> Our vendor is finding that these are discontinued, so I'm wondering
>> if anyone has any other SCSI CD-Rs working. For example, does an
>> HP 6020 work?
>
>Yes, I'm using one now. I'll update the hardware page accordingly,
>thanks for the reminder!
>
> Jordan
>
>
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Do you know of a supplier? Seems the catalogs are listing IDE drives.
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> Do you know of a supplier? Seems the catalogs are listing IDE drives.
I do not, sorry. :(
Jordan
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Hi,
I used a Ricoh 6201S to burn CDs on FreeBSD using cdrecord.
Haven't used it as a "classic FreeBSD worm", though -
but there are mods if you want to use it this way, also.
P.S. The CDs we RockRidge/Joliet combined. Haven't tried
audio yet.
Mostyn
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From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Mar 23 23:15:35 1998
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Subject: 16 port Boca Board
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Friends,
I have a 16 port boca board which has worked well on my 486dx. I have
recently moved the board to my P166, but for some reason some of the ports
are not recognized in the kernel boot up probe. Usually will lose a
couple in the middle of the stream, or the last few ports including the
master. This means I have to reboot and hope at least the master is
found in the next probe.
Has anyone ever had this problem before?
John Hengstler
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Hi,
What are the DPT supported cards model ??
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Hello
Did recently get a Acard PCI UltraIDE controller (AEC6210UF) but can't get
FreeBSD to find it, Just wondering if anybode have tried such a card with
FreeBSD.
I tried with versio 2.2.5 AND 3.0-SNAP
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Donald Burr wrote:
> Can anyone list the SCSI (and IDE/ATAPI, if applicable) CD-burners that are
> compatible with FreeBSD (either -STABLE or -CURRENT)? I'm considering
> purchasing one, but don't want to accidentally buy an unsupported model.
I got the new Plextor CDR a couple of weeks ago:
scbus1 target 4 lun 0: <PLEXTOR CD-R PX-R412C 1.03> type 5 removable SCSI 2
It uses the MMC Comandset (SCSI3 Multimedia Commandset) and is supported
by cdrecord (in ports).
-tb
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In article <19980323193054.62953@clifford.inch.com>, you wrote:
>Is there anything special about the DPT ECC memory that they sell,
>apart from it being ECC? DPT lists the price at over $1100 for 16M,
>but my vendor is telling me that he sells 32M of 70 pin ECC memory for
>around $70. Why the disparity?
DPT is the only company producing ECC SIMMs in any quantity from
what I understand, it is a specialized market, really tailored to the needs
of the data conscious. not sure if the price quote you got was very accurate
though.
You can use non-parity SIMMs on some DPT cards if you feel you are
somewhat fault tolerant. Personally, I use parity memory, works fine. You
can not mix and match memory types.
I seriously doubt 32M/$70 for ECC, he must have confused it with EDO
memory. I would be interested in the name of your vendor just in case I
have a mistaken view.
Sincerely -- Mark Salyzyn
My opinions are my own.
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Torsten Blum wrote:
>
> Donald Burr wrote:
>
> > Can anyone list the SCSI (and IDE/ATAPI, if applicable) CD-burners that are
> > compatible with FreeBSD (either -STABLE or -CURRENT)? I'm considering
> > purchasing one, but don't want to accidentally buy an unsupported model.
>
> I got the new Plextor CDR a couple of weeks ago:
> scbus1 target 4 lun 0: <PLEXTOR CD-R PX-R412C 1.03> type 5 removable SCSI 2
>
> It uses the MMC Comandset (SCSI3 Multimedia Commandset) and is supported
> by cdrecord (in ports).
>
> -tb
Anyone have any experience with Smart and Friendly?
http://www.smartandfriendly.com/cdrw426specse.html
Thanks
ed
P.S. Has anyone been able to use an enhanced IDA drive?
Thanks again
ed
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In reply to Torsten Blum who wrote:
> Donald Burr wrote:
>
> > Can anyone list the SCSI (and IDE/ATAPI, if applicable) CD-burners that are
> > compatible with FreeBSD (either -STABLE or -CURRENT)? I'm considering
> > purchasing one, but don't want to accidentally buy an unsupported model.
>
> I got the new Plextor CDR a couple of weeks ago:
> scbus1 target 4 lun 0: <PLEXTOR CD-R PX-R412C 1.03> type 5 removable SCSI 2
I got a IDE CDRW drive from FreeBSD INC, there will be a driver for that
as soon as I get a little more time....
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Søren Schmidt wrote:
>
> In reply to Torsten Blum who wrote:
> > Donald Burr wrote:
> >
> > > Can anyone list the SCSI (and IDE/ATAPI, if applicable) CD-burners that are
> > > compatible with FreeBSD (either -STABLE or -CURRENT)? I'm considering
> > > purchasing one, but don't want to accidentally buy an unsupported model.
> >
> > I got the new Plextor CDR a couple of weeks ago:
> > scbus1 target 4 lun 0: <PLEXTOR CD-R PX-R412C 1.03> type 5 removable SCSI 2
>
> I got a IDE CDRW drive from FreeBSD INC, there will be a driver for that
> as soon as I get a little more time....
>
Would it be safe to assume :-) that it should work with most/all IDE
CDRW's?
Thanks
ed
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In reply to Edwin Culp who wrote:
> Søren Schmidt wrote:
> >
> > I got a IDE CDRW drive from FreeBSD INC, there will be a driver for that
> > as soon as I get a little more time....
> >
> Would it be safe to assume :-) that it should work with most/all IDE CDRW's?
Hmm, dunno really, they seem to be created equal, but we'll see about
that when I get the driver done.
It will be rudimentary at first, and kludged onto our current atapi
driver subsytem, a rewrite of that will follow, but is a "somewhat"
longer term solution....
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On Mon, Mar 23, 1998 at 07:30:54PM -0500, I wrote:
>
> Is there anything special about the DPT ECC memory that they sell,
[for their RAID controllers]
> apart from it being ECC? DPT lists the price at over $1100 for 16M,
> but my vendor is telling me that he sells 32M of 70 pin ECC memory for
> around $70. Why the disparity?
Here's the company line I got from DPT:
DPT ECC Regular ECC
------------------------------------------------------------------------
1. It will correct full 32 bit Based on Hamming Coding.
word errors in a 512 byte page
2. Hardware implemetation - Must access data in 4 or 8 byte
no overhead on Motorola chunks
processor on the HBA - only
when corrections needed.
(not 512 byte chunks)
3. Corrects multi-bit errors Corrects only single byte.
in word.
4. Overhead -3% (Overhead Has 12.5 to 21.9% overhead
+system resource usage)
5. Raid Tower hot swaps can cause (sometimes) a glitch
and crash the system _ DPT ECC SIMMS can prevent this.
(electrical spike becomes odd bit which is taken care of
by correction).
I can't comment on the the claims, but at >$1100 vs. $70, we'll be
going with regular ECC.
--
Omar
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On Thu, 26 Mar 1998, Mark Gregory Salyzyn wrote:
> You can use non-parity SIMMs on some DPT cards if you feel you are
> somewhat fault tolerant. Personally, I use parity memory, works fine. You
> can not mix and match memory types.
>
> I seriously doubt 32M/$70 for ECC, he must have confused it with EDO
> memory. I would be interested in the name of your vendor just in case I
> have a mistaken view.
DPT ECC memory is very different from regular parity/ECC memory. It
contains more parity bits than normal, and is extremely expensive. DPT
ECC memory can only be used in DPT cards.
Tom
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>
> In reply to Edwin Culp who wrote:
> > Søren Schmidt wrote:
> > >
> > > I got a IDE CDRW drive from FreeBSD INC, there will be a driver for that
> > > as soon as I get a little more time....
> > >
> > Would it be safe to assume :-) that it should work with most/all IDE CDRW's?
>
> Hmm, dunno really, they seem to be created equal, but we'll see about
> that when I get the driver done.
> It will be rudimentary at first, and kludged onto our current atapi
> driver subsytem, a rewrite of that will follow, but is a "somewhat"
> longer term solution....
>
Thanks a lot.
ed
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From: Tim Borgeaud <Tim.Borgeaud@bristol.ac.uk>
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I have a ricoh 1420c CDR and adaptec 1505 (aic driver) scsi card.
I am getting errors when trying to use the cdrecord port (which does
support this cdr drive).
The error I am getting is
cdrecord: Undefined error 0. test unit ready: scsi sendcmd fatal error
I am away from my computer at the moment so I can't get a full print out
of the output from cdrecord.
The drive probes as cd0c and works fine as a cdrom.
I have made the link from /dev/scgx to /dev/cd0c. I'm not using
the su driver.
Any ideas?
Tim
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>
> I can't comment on the the claims, but at >$1100 vs. $70, we'll be
> going with regular ECC.
>
> --
> Omar
What applications are you using this card in?
How critical is it for you?
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Subject: 12.0 GB Quantum Bigfoot TX IDE seen as 8.4 GB
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I put three 12.0 GB Quantum Bigfoot TX IDE drives on my freeBSD 2.2.5
machine, and BIOS correctly identifies the drives as 12 GB, but freeBSD
thinks they are only 8.4 GB:
BIOS (LBA Mode ON): 23,361 cyl / 16 heads / 63 sectors per track
==> 23,547,888 sectors (X 512 bytes/sec = 12.0 GB)
freeBSD FDISK shows: 1078 cyl / 243 heads / 63 sec per track
==> 16,503,102 sectors (X 512 bytes/sec = 8.4 GB)
When I manually enter the correct geometry into FDISK (23361/16/63), it
correctly computes the number of sectors for 12 GIG (23,547,888), but
unfortunately still behaves as though there were no more than 8.4 GIG
available --- the (C)reate option maxes out at 16514001 sectors.
Is freeBSD actually limited to 8.4 GIGs per IDE drive?
=====================================================
P.S. These 12 GIG drives only cost $80 more than their 8 GIG
counterparts, so its not the end of the world if 8 GIGs is the
limit. Still, having the extra space would be awesome... :) :)
Best wishes,
Bob Lash
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In reply to Bob Lash who wrote:
> I put three 12.0 GB Quantum Bigfoot TX IDE drives on my freeBSD 2.2.5
> machine, and BIOS correctly identifies the drives as 12 GB, but freeBSD
> thinks they are only 8.4 GB:
>
> BIOS (LBA Mode ON): 23,361 cyl / 16 heads / 63 sectors per track
>
> ==> 23,547,888 sectors (X 512 bytes/sec = 12.0 GB)
>
> freeBSD FDISK shows: 1078 cyl / 243 heads / 63 sec per track
>
> ==> 16,503,102 sectors (X 512 bytes/sec = 8.4 GB)
Have you tried it with the BIOS in CHS mode ??
> When I manually enter the correct geometry into FDISK (23361/16/63), it
> correctly computes the number of sectors for 12 GIG (23,547,888), but
> unfortunately still behaves as though there were no more than 8.4 GIG
> available --- the (C)reate option maxes out at 16514001 sectors.
>
> Is freeBSD actually limited to 8.4 GIGs per IDE drive?
> =====================================================
No it shouldn't be..
> P.S. These 12 GIG drives only cost $80 more than their 8 GIG
> counterparts, so its not the end of the world if 8 GIGs is the
> limit. Still, having the extra space would be awesome... :) :)
Send me one, and I'll make it work :)
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Søren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org) FreeBSD Core Team
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..
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> I put three 12.0 GB Quantum Bigfoot TX IDE drives on my freeBSD 2.2.5
> machine, and BIOS correctly identifies the drives as 12 GB, but freeBSD
> thinks they are only 8.4 GB:
What happens if you turn LBA mode off in your BIOS/IDE controller
setup?
Jordan
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On Fri, 27 Mar 1998, Søren Schmidt wrote:
> In reply to Bob Lash who wrote:
> > I put three 12.0 GB Quantum Bigfoot TX IDE drives on my freeBSD 2.2.5
> > machine, and BIOS correctly identifies the drives as 12 GB, but freeBSD
> > thinks they are only 8.4 GB:
-SNIP-
>
> Have you tried it with the BIOS in CHS mode ??
>
Yes, we tried using CHS, LBA, and LARGE modes... all of them showed as 12
GIG under BIOS, but only 8.4 under freeBSD. Interestingly, when in CHS
mode, BIOS shows:
23361 CYL / 16 HD / 63 SEC
and freeBSD sees:
16383 CYL / 16 HD / 63 SEC
> > Is freeBSD actually limited to 8.4 GIGs per IDE drive?
> > =====================================================
>
> No it shouldn't be..
Excellent...
> Send me one, and I'll make it work :)
If we have to put more of these boxes together, I will definately recommend
it to the other folks involved in my project! :) :)
Best wishes,
Bob Lash
bob@wbs.net
>
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
> Søren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org) FreeBSD Core Team
> Even more code to hack -- will it ever end
> ..
>
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> What happens if you turn LBA mode off in your BIOS/IDE controller
> setup?
>
> Jordan
With LBA off, BIOS defaults to CHS, and as previously mentioned shows 23361
cyl/16 hd/63 sec on the BIOS display (still 12 GIG), but feeBSD seems to
max out at 16383 cyl/16 hd/63 sec (still adds up to 8.4 GIG)...
Interestingly, I found this item (from Aug 96) that suggests there may be
an 8 GIG limit...
"With BIOS LBA, the hard disk size limitation is virtually removed (well,
pushed up to 8 Gigabytes anyway). If you have an LBA BIOS, you can put
FreeBSD or any OS anywhere you want and not hit the 1024 cylinder limit."
-Jay Richmond /jayrich@sysc.com / 6 August 1996
Installing and Using FreeBSD With Other Operating Systems
(http://www.freebsd.org/tutorials/multios/multios.html)
Bob Lash
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>With LBA off, BIOS defaults to CHS, and as previously mentioned shows 23361
>cyl/16 hd/63 sec on the BIOS display (still 12 GIG), but feeBSD seems to
>max out at 16383 cyl/16 hd/63 sec (still adds up to 8.4 GIG)...
FreeBSD always uses CHS with whatever limits the drive reports
(max 65535 cyl/16 hd/255 sec) (128G). Drives don't report more than
63 sectors due to BIOS braindamage. Apparently some drives don't
report more than 16383 cylinders. I don't know of any BIOS bugs
for >= 16384 cylinders. CHS BIOSes break at only 1024 cylinders.
FreeBSD used to have a sign extension bug for >= 32768 cylinders.
>Interestingly, I found this item (from Aug 96) that suggests there may be
>an 8 GIG limit...
>
> "With BIOS LBA, the hard disk size limitation is virtually removed (well,
> pushed up to 8 Gigabytes anyway). If you have an LBA BIOS, you can put
> FreeBSD or any OS anywhere you want and not hit the 1024 cylinder limit."
A BIOS limit. FreeBSD doesn't use the BIOS except for booting, but may
be affected by drives dumbing down things so that BIOSes sort of work.
Bruce
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I am getting a few error messages with my Symbios 53C860 based SCSI
card that seem a bit unusual. First, I'm running FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE
on an asus P55T2P4 3.10 motherboard with an AMD K6-233. Devices include
two Seagate ST31200N's, a DEC RZ26L, an External Zip (SCSI), a
Plextor 12/20-PLEX cd-rom, and (the problem) an Exabyte 4200-c DAT
tape drive.
With the ncr 860 card the tape drive works as expected faithfully completing
backups. The errors only occur on start up. Here's a snippit of dmesg:
--- begin ---
(ncr0:4:0): "EXABYTE EXB-4200c 149" type 1 removable SCSI 2
st0(ncr0:4:0): Sequential-Access ncr0: SCSI phase error fixup: CCB address misma
tch (0xf0852400 != 0xf06a6400) np->ccb = 0xf06a6400
st0(ncr0:4:0): phase change 6-7 6@004bf5d8 resid=4.
st0(ncr0:4:0): asynchronous.
st0(ncr0:4:0): M_REJECT received (4:8).
density code 0x13, drive empty
--- end ---
The device is setup to 5MB/sec with queue tags disabled, 8 bit width
in the 860's setup.
The machine is running flawlessly and I did not notice any problems until
I made the mistake of upgrading the SCSI card to an NCR 53C875. The
darn system would not boot until the tape was removed from the chain.
I have the error messages if anyone is interested, but thought I would
address these oddities with my narrow card before jumping further into
the fire.
Any suggestions or info appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
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jmastrol@mcs.net
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