From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Apr 5 13:06:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA02202 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 13:06:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA02139; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 13:05:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA16279; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 21:04:40 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Message-ID: <19980405210440.45817@nothing-going-on.org> Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 21:04:40 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ABIT PX5 233MMX Pent, R2.2.2, 2.2.5., 2.2.6 all hang in sysinstall Reply-To: nik@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi folks, I've been trying to get a friend's machine working with FreeBSD with little success. The box is a 233 MMX Pentium, w/ 32MB of RAM, 3GB of IDE disk (ST33232A) on the first controller, and a CDROM and ZIP drive as the primary and slave devices on the second controller. The graphics card is a 4MB S3d ViRGE/DX. The sound card is an ESS Technology ES1869 PnP AudioDrive. The modem is a ComWave V.34PNP Data/Fax/Voice (not my choices, but I've got to work with them). Both the soundcard and modem are PnP, the other devices aren't. The motherboard is an ABIT PX5. The 2.2.2, 2.2.5 and 2.2.6 boot floppies probe and find the hard disk, CDROM and Zip drives without a problem. The sound card and modem are ignored, but I'm not surprised by that. When booting from the 2.2.2 or 2.2.5 floppy, the probes happen, and then the last three lines printed are: Changing root device to fd0c rootfs is 1440 Kbyte compiled in MFS /stand/sysinstall running as init (the first two are kernel messages, i.e., bold white, the last one isn't, full output available on request). The screen then clears, the block cursor goes to the bottom left corner and sits there. Nothing else happens. When booting from the 2.2.6 boot floppy, the first of the three lines above is intel Pentium F00F detected, installing workaround but the others are the same. Then the familiar blue screen and dialog comes up with Probing devices, please wait... And then it hangs. So far I've tried: - Turning off all caching and shadowing in the BIOS. No effect. - Booting from the 2.2.5 CDROM, instead of floppy. No effect. - Disabling all non-pertinent devices (network cards etc) vs. leaving them in. No effect. - Disabling sio0-3 on the offchance it was a conflict with the S£ card. No effect. - Trying both "flags npx0 0x1" and "flags npx0 0x7" (as seen in a couple of messages in the mailing list archives). No effect. - Pulling out the modem and sound cards on the off chance they were conflicting in some way. No effect. - Turning on the "PCI 2.1 Compliance" option in the BIOS (an Award BIOS, if that makes any difference). No effect. - Thump machine. No effect, but I feel less stressed. - Deciding that this is all too much hassle, and going out for a curry. No effect, but I feel less hungry. I've worked my way through the mailing list archives and the web site search. I turn up hits from people who have these things working, but nothing from anyone having problems getting them to install. The boot floppies/CDROM have no problem running sysinstall if I put them in my P200 ASUS motherboard machine, so it's not the installation media. During the week I'm going to try and lay my hands on a boot floppy for one of Linux/NetBSD/OpenBSD just to see if they get any further, which might at least assist the diagnoses. Other than that, any and all suggestions for other avenues of exploration gratefully appreciated. Oh yeah. Needless to say, DOS/Win95 works :-( N -- Work: nik@iii.co.uk | FreeBSD + Perl + Apache Rest: nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk | Remind me again why we need Play: nik@freebsd.org | Microsoft? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Apr 5 18:14:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA14116 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 18:14:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from send1c.yahoomail.com (send1c.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA13701 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 18:14:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bugglebabe@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <19980406011508.16431.rocketmail@send1c.yahoomail.com> Received: from [208.195.159.71] by send1c; Sun, 05 Apr 1998 18:15:08 PDT Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 18:15:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Bradley Taylor Subject: Re: DPT and ECC memory To: Christopher Martin at Home , Omar Thameen , freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Has anyone tried putting regular ECC memory into a DPT controller? Do you *have* to buy DPT's memory to get ECC protection? Curious... -brad _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Apr 5 19:09:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA27935 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 19:09:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from misery.sdf.com (misery.sdf.com [204.244.213.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA27888 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 19:09:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@sdf.com) Received: from tom by misery.sdf.com with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 0yM0vi-0006Lt-00; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 18:42:34 -0700 Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 18:42:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom To: Bradley Taylor cc: Christopher Martin at Home , Omar Thameen , freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DPT and ECC memory In-Reply-To: <19980406011508.16431.rocketmail@send1c.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 5 Apr 1998, Bradley Taylor wrote: > Has anyone tried putting regular ECC memory into a DPT controller? Do > you *have* to buy DPT's memory to get ECC protection? If you put parity memory in, you get basic parity protection. That is what I use. DPT's ECC memory is not your normal ECC memory. Plus, it isn't useful unless you are planing to low-level format your drives with a different sector size. Unless you have high-end drives, you won't even be able to do this. Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Apr 5 21:26:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA16439 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 21:26:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pegasus.com (pegasus.com [206.127.225.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA16428 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 21:26:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from richard@pegasus.com) Received: by pegasus.com (8.6.8/PEGASUS-2.2) id SAA24681; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 18:26:24 -1000 Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 18:26:24 -1000 From: richard@pegasus.com (Richard Foulk) Message-Id: <199804060426.SAA24681@pegasus.com> In-Reply-To: Tom "Re: DPT and ECC memory" (Apr 5, 6:42pm) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DPT and ECC memory Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org } > Has anyone tried putting regular ECC memory into a DPT controller? Do } > you *have* to buy DPT's memory to get ECC protection? } } If you put parity memory in, you get basic parity protection. That } is what I use. } } DPT's ECC memory is not your normal ECC memory. Plus, it isn't useful } unless you are planing to low-level format your drives with a different } sector size. Unless you have high-end drives, you won't even be able to } do this. } Huh? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Apr 5 22:43:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA24834 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 22:43:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from vnode.vmunix.com (vnode.vmunix.com [209.112.4.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA24814 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 22:43:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@vnode.vmunix.com) Received: (from mark@localhost) by vnode.vmunix.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA00309; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 01:46:44 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mark) Message-ID: <19980406014644.08894@vmunix.com> Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 01:46:44 -0400 From: Mark Mayo To: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Laptop recomendations Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.5-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all. So.. what's everyone recomending in FreeBSD capable laptops these days?? :-) Basic requirements: - Runs win95 and FreeBSD (duh..) - minimum 12.1" screen (I'm assuming non-active since those are too $$) - p166MMX processor (or maybe a 200?) - 16MB RAM min, although a lot of them seem to come with 32MB these days - CDROM - Runs X half decently.. That's about all I need.. pretty much a "basic" laptop, capable of doing X in FreeBSD (purchasing AccelX laptop version is fine). Ultra portable isn't really a requirement.. So far I'm leaning towards the 300 line from Toshiba (the Protege?), since my local Compucentre carries them for about $2K CDN.. Also thinking about the Dell laptops - they seem very good on paper and are very cheap. :) I guess my biggest fear is incompatibilities with the PC-Card stuff and the video card.. I'm new to laptops, so I have no idea how much of a nightmare this really is compared to what it seems. :) I guess the only other thing is that I hate those Glide Point style mouse things.. Much prefer the little nibs that IBM and Toshiba have. And it would be really nice if I could swap and floppy and/or CDROM for an extra battery. Any comments very much welcome.. I'd like to stay in the $2000-$2500 range (Canadian dollars), and since this is my first laptop, I really don't want to get ripped off -- and most of these damned things seem like big rip-offs, to be honest! :-) TIA, -Mark -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mark Mayo mark@vmunix.com RingZero Comp. http://www.vmunix.com/mark finger mark@vmunix.com for my PGP key and GCS code ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "The problem is how do you build tools that understand your programs at a deeper semantic level." - James Gosling To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Apr 5 22:57:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA28949 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 22:57:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.webspan.net (root@mail.webspan.net [206.154.70.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA28895 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 22:57:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from opsys@mail.webspan.net) Received: from orion.webspan.net (orion.webspan.net [206.154.70.5]) by mail.webspan.net (WEBSPAN/970608) with SMTP id BAA24005; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 01:54:06 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 01:57:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Open Systems Networking X-Sender: opsys@orion.webspan.net To: Mark Mayo cc: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Laptop recomendations In-Reply-To: <19980406014644.08894@vmunix.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm going to snag a new laptop myself soon. I was looking at the new DEC hinote's :) 14" monitor looks really cool. I don't know how compatible they are with FreeBSD. But im going to get one soon. So im glad you brought up the "whats the bets laptop" scenario again :) Chris -- "I am closed minded. It keeps the rain out." ===================================| Open Systems Networking And Consulting. FreeBSD 2.2.6 is available now! | Phone: 316-326-6800 -----------------------------------| 1402 N. Washington, Wellington, KS-67152 FreeBSD: The power to serve! | E-Mail: opsys@open-systems.net http://www.freebsd.org | Consulting-Network Engineering-Security ===================================| http://open-systems.net -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQENAzPemUsAAAEH/06iF0BU8pMtdLJrxp/lLk3vg9QJCHajsd25gYtR8X1Px1Te gWU0C4EwMh4seDIgK9bzFmjjlZOEgS9zEgia28xDgeluQjuuMyUFJ58MzRlC2ONC foYIZsFyIqdjEOCBdfhH5bmgB5/+L5bjDK6lNdqD8OAhtC4Xnc1UxAKq3oUgVD/Z d5UJXU2xm+f08WwGZIUcbGcaonRC/6Z/5o8YpLVBpcFeLtKW5WwGhEMxl9WDZ3Kb NZH6bx15WiB2Q/gZQib3ZXhe1xEgRP+p6BnvF364I/To9kMduHpJKU97PH3dU7Mv CXk2NG3rtOgLTEwLyvtBPqLnbx35E0JnZc0k5YkABRO0JU9wZW4gU3lzdGVtcyA8 b3BzeXNAb3Blbi1zeXN0ZW1zLm5ldD4= =BBjp -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Apr 6 10:34:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA22279 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 10:34:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from colossus.dyn.ml.org (dburr@206-18-115-111.la.inreach.net [206.18.115.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA22244; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 10:34:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dburr@colossus.dyn.ml.org) Received: (from dburr@localhost) by colossus.dyn.ml.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) id KAA01859; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 10:39:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dburr) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.2 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 10:39:05 -0700 (PDT) Organization: Computer Help From: Donald Burr To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: BrookTree 848 causing my screen to get messed up, how to fix? Cc: FreeBSD Hardware Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- I just acquired a BrookTree 848 based TV capture card. It appears to be a clone; it just says "TV Capturer" on the box, with no apparent manufactuer, etc. But it definitely uses the Bt848 chip, I can see it plain as day on the board. And FreeBSD does recognize it: bktr0 rev 18 int a irq 10 on pci0:10:0 Miro TV, Temic NTSC tuner. In any case, I got the driver compiled, and the fxtv port compiled and working. I can successfully view the TV tuner output in a window on my screen. However, when that window is visible (i.e. not hidden behind any other windows), it causes the rest of my screen to become garbled, so that all windows (xterms, my Netscape browser, etc.) become virtually unreadable. If the window is hidden behind another, nothing gets garbled. The same thing happens when I use the Windows software that came with the card. Any ideas as to what's going on here, and how to fix it? Here, in brief, are the details of my system: Pentium 133, motherboard based on VIA VP 586 Apollo chipset, Creative Labs Graphics Blaster MA202 with 2 MB VRAM (Cirrus Logic CL-GD5446). Other cards in system include Adaptec AHA-2940AU PCI SCSI controller, ISA NE-2000 ethernet clone, USR Sportster 56K modem, Sound Blaster ViBRA16C PnP sound card. Another problem I'm having is that, occasionally, the card gets really confused, and it thinks that it's a PAL card instead of an NTSC card: bktr0 rev 18 int a irq 10 on pci0:10:0 Miro TV, Philips PAL I tuner. Naturally, this means that I can't view anything (being in the USA, our cable systems are NTSC). Switching modes in the FXTV program does *not* work. Any ideas? Please e-mail if possible. Thanks! - --- Donald Burr - Ask me for my PGP key | PGP: Your WWW HomePage: http://DonaldBurr.base.org/ ICQ #1347455 | right to Address: P.O. Box 91212, Santa Barbara, CA 93190-1212 | 'Net privacy. Phone: (805) 957-9666 FAX: (800) 492-5954 | USE IT. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBNSkTOfjpixuAwagxAQG7lAP/a6ZMOg2y1g/D+z2KLD5Xelg1zhXgauMK oTRjYFkn0H631pduYG9G5KpvpTLSiZs6k/V5I4ohsVv9uKmRa5aG+yWZLh9jybW7 Lt7vjdhkkfWn6a0tdJD3TzYIP08cn+Fe4iBZeF5S3G1Q4/vAtggBMx+oiXt+Vb/i NX2cJZ2aqrk= =rLDZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Apr 6 12:52:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA22167 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:52:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA21962; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:51:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA18969; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:51:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:51:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: nik@FreeBSD.ORG cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ABIT PX5 233MMX Pent, R2.2.2, 2.2.5., 2.2.6 all hang in sysinstall In-Reply-To: <19980405210440.45817@nothing-going-on.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 5 Apr 1998, Nik Clayton wrote: > I've been trying to get a friend's machine working with FreeBSD with little > success. > > The box is a 233 MMX Pentium, w/ 32MB of RAM, 3GB of IDE disk (ST33232A) > on the first controller, and a CDROM and ZIP drive as the primary and > slave devices on the second controller. Take the ZIP drive out; it's a known problem. For some reason it makes sysinstall hang. It should work once the system is installed. You'll want to install the kernel source so you can rebuild a kernel with the zip device (wfd0). Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Apr 6 13:00:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA24067 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:00:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gw1.asacomputers.com (root@gw1.asacomputers.com [204.69.220.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA23985 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:59:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kedar@asacomputers.com) Received: by gw1.asacomputers.com id NAA15054; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:00:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19980406195654.00ecd59c@gw1> X-Sender: rajadnya@gw1 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 12:56:54 -0700 To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG From: Kedar Rajadnya Subject: Adaptec U2SCSI/7890/7891. Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, Does anybody happen to know if the Adaptec U2SCSI cards, or 7890/91 chips, will be supported under 2.2.6? Also, on the DPT support, would anybody happen to know if there is support for any cards other than the PM3334UW series? THAadvanceNKS, Kedar. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Apr 6 13:07:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA25675 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:07:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from misery.sdf.com (misery.sdf.com [204.244.213.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA25664 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:07:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@sdf.com) Received: from tom by misery.sdf.com with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 0yMHmH-00077m-00; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:41:57 -0700 Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:41:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom To: Kedar Rajadnya cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Adaptec U2SCSI/7890/7891. In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19980406195654.00ecd59c@gw1> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 6 Apr 1998, Kedar Rajadnya wrote: > Hello, > > Does anybody happen to know if the Adaptec U2SCSI cards, or 7890/91 > chips, will be supported under 2.2.6? No, and probably will not be. The upcoming CAM patch kit for 2.2 _may_ have support for it. The existing SCSI layer is no longer being developed. > Also, on the DPT support, would anybody happen to know if there is > support for any cards other than the PM3334UW series? All PCI cards should be supported, but the PM3334UW is the fastest supported card. > THAadvanceNKS, > Kedar. Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Apr 6 16:42:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA04855 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 16:42:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from webchat2.wbs.net (ws3.wbs.net [207.88.172.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA04827 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 16:41:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bob@wbs.net) Received: (from bob@localhost) by webchat2.wbs.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) id QAA16922; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 16:41:49 -0700 Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 16:41:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Lash To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG cc: julian@ivision.co.uk Subject: Re: 12.0 GB Quantum Bigfoot TX IDE seen as 8.4 GB In-Reply-To: <199803280225.NAA13946@godzilla.zeta.org.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org It appears that a second Quantum Bigfoot TX 12 GIG owner is experiencing the same problem -- freeBSD is recognizing it as only 8.4 GIG, and the number of cylinders is getting capped off at 16383 (when it is actually 23361). I am appending his post that went to freebsd-hackers. I had to go up with the three 12 Gig drives running as just 8.4 Gigs... oh well... :( Julian - I'm running 2.2.5, so upgrading your 2.2.2 won't solve this problem... Best wishes, Bob Lash bob@wbs.net ----------------- Subject: Quantum bigfoot 12Gig From: julian@ivision.co.uk (Julian) Date: 1998/03/30 Message-ID: <6fo6rn$i21$1@FreeBSD.csie.NCTU.edu.tw> Newsgroups: mailing.freebsd.hackers I think that this is the right list, rather than 'filesystems', apologies if this is off topic. Apologies also for the length of this email, but it would be pointless without the associated details. I have recently purchased a Quantum Bigfoot 12Gig drive, I admit that I was careless, and assumed that the drive would just work under FreeBSD. The problem appears to be that the number of cylinders is greater than FreeBSD 2.2.2 will cope with. I can if necessary upgrade to 2.2.5 although don't really want to unless that will actually resolve the problem. Disklabel from Quantum bigfoot # /dev/rwd2: type: ESDI disk: wd2s1 label: flags: bytes/sector: 512 sectors/track: 63 tracks/cylinder: 16 sectors/cylinder: 1008 cylinders: 23361 sectors/unit: 23547888 rpm: 3600 interleave: 1 trackskew: 0 cylinderskew: 0 headswitch: 0 # milliseconds track-to-track seek: 0 # milliseconds drivedata: 0 8 partitions: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] c: 23547888 0 unused 0 0 # (Cyl. 0 - 23360) >From the in core copy # /dev/rwd2: type: unknown disk: label: flags: bytes/sector: 512 sectors/track: 63 tracks/cylinder: 16 sectors/cylinder: 1008 cylinders: 16383 sectors/unit: 16514064 rpm: 3600 interleave: 1 trackskew: 0 cylinderskew: 0 headswitch: 0 # milliseconds track-to-track seek: 0 # milliseconds drivedata: 0 3 partitions: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] c: 16514064 0 unused 0 0 # (Cyl. 0 - 16382) Note that the cylinders are where the 'main' difference appears to lie. I have manually set my bios to the 'correct' figures, but if I let it autodetect then it gives the figures that FreeBSD comes up with. This is an exclusively FreeBSD system, and I don't need it to work with DOS, or any other OS. I do not need to boot off this disk. It is just there for storage purposes. I want/need to be able to use 12G of the disk, and not just the 8 that is on offer. I will keep playing, but on and off I have spent a week on this, and thus far to no avail. Julian Unix Admin, Internet Vision To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Apr 6 18:53:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA25493 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 18:53:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from marlin.corp.gulf.net (root@marlin.corp.gulf.net [198.69.72.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA25345; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 18:51:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tbackman@corp.gulf.net) Received: from marlin.corp.gulf.net (tbackman@marlin.corp.gulf.net [206.105.61.2]) by marlin.corp.gulf.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA15423; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 20:50:19 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 20:50:18 -0500 (CDT) From: Todd Backman To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: SDL N2dds Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Does anyone use the SDL N2dds successfully with FreeBSD? I am trying two set up two machines with the cards w/2.2.5 and am having a hell of a time. device sr0 at isa? port 0x340 net irq 11 iomem 0xd0000 vector srintr network_interfaces="sr0 ed1 lo0" ifconfig_sr0="inet xxx.xxx.xx.xxx xxx.xxx.xx.xxx flags 0x1 netmask 255.... ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^ local IP Remote IP subnet Kernel sppp The kernel sees it correctly with no conflicts. When I bring up the interface I get odd recurring errors (I cant remember exactly and it is off site) the error includes something like: ST01 TR05 DG07 (again I did not write the errors down like a dumbass) The boxen also have Genius NIC in them with different IPs. location A setup: csu/dsu feeds a 8 port hub. freebsd box connects to port on hub through NIC. Cable from SDL card to 56k line that runs to location B (150 yards) location B setup: line from 56k line to SDL card on second machine. cable from freebsd box to main port on hub to serve 6 machines at that location. SDL has NO support for FreeBSD. Thanks in advance for any help. ===================================================================== Todd Backman (tbackman@corp.gulf.net) Network Engineering Systems/POP Administration Gulf Coast Internet Company 1-800-444-INET To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Apr 6 23:28:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA01614 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 23:28:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sos.freebsd.dk (sos.freebsd.dk [195.8.129.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA01588 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 23:28:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sos@sos.freebsd.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by sos.freebsd.dk (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA09012; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 08:28:06 +0200 (MEST) (envelope-from sos) Message-Id: <199804070628.IAA09012@sos.freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: 12.0 GB Quantum Bigfoot TX IDE seen as 8.4 GB In-Reply-To: from Bob Lash at "Apr 6, 98 04:41:49 pm" To: bob@wbs.net (Bob Lash) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 08:28:06 +0200 (MEST) Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, julian@ivision.co.uk From: Søren Schmidt Reply-to: sos@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL30 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In reply to Bob Lash who wrote: > It appears that a second Quantum Bigfoot TX 12 GIG owner is experiencing > the same problem -- freeBSD is recognizing it as only 8.4 GIG, and the > number of cylinders is getting capped off at 16383 (when it is actually > 23361). I am appending his post that went to freebsd-hackers. Yup, it appears we have a problem here, it seems as if we only support up to 2^14 cylinders. Does the probe line (dmesg) show the right cylinder count ?? > I had to go up with the three 12 Gig drives running as just 8.4 Gigs... > oh well... :( Well, you could ship the third to one of the developers, we will make it work and you will end up with 24G of space anyways :) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Søren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org) FreeBSD Core Team Even more code to hack -- will it ever end .. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Apr 7 00:09:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA09054 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 00:09:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dyson.iquest.net (dyson.iquest.net [198.70.144.127]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA09035; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 00:09:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from toor@dyson.iquest.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by dyson.iquest.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA20391; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 02:09:19 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from toor) From: "John S. Dyson" Message-Id: <199804070709.CAA20391@dyson.iquest.net> Subject: Re: 12.0 GB Quantum Bigfoot TX IDE seen as 8.4 GB In-Reply-To: <199804070628.IAA09012@sos.freebsd.dk> from =?ISO-8859-1?Q?S=F8ren_Schmidt?= at "Apr 7, 98 08:28:06 am" To: sos@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 02:09:19 -0500 (EST) Cc: bob@wbs.net, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, julian@ivision.co.uk X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > In reply to Bob Lash who wrote: > > It appears that a second Quantum Bigfoot TX 12 GIG owner is experiencing > > the same problem -- freeBSD is recognizing it as only 8.4 GIG, and the > > number of cylinders is getting capped off at 16383 (when it is actually > > 23361). I am appending his post that went to freebsd-hackers. > > Yup, it appears we have a problem here, it seems as if we only support > up to 2^14 cylinders. Does the probe line (dmesg) show the right > cylinder count ?? > > > I had to go up with the three 12 Gig drives running as just 8.4 Gigs... > > oh well... :( > > Well, you could ship the third to one of the developers, we will make > it work and you will end up with 24G of space anyways :) > If Bob wants to fix it himself, we would also be willing to commit the changes. John To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Apr 7 03:29:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA02948 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 03:29:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from stingray.ivision.co.uk (stingray.ivision.co.uk [195.50.91.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA02943 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 03:29:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from julian@ivision.co.uk) Received: from julian by stingray.ivision.co.uk with local (Exim 1.62 #2) id 0yMVdR-0001ze-00; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:29:45 +0100 Received: from julian by stingray.ivision.co.uk with local (Exim 1.62 #2) id 0yMVc2-0001yR-00; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:28:18 +0100 Subject: Re: 12.0 GB Quantum Bigfoot TX IDE seen as 8.4 GB To: sos@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:28:18 +0100 (BST) In-Reply-To: <199804070628.IAA09012@sos.freebsd.dk> from "Søren Schmidt" at Apr 7, 98 08:28:06 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: From: Julian Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > In reply to Bob Lash who wrote: > > It appears that a second Quantum Bigfoot TX 12 GIG owner is experiencin g > > the same problem -- freeBSD is recognizing it as only 8.4 GIG, and the > > number of cylinders is getting capped off at 16383 (when it is actually > > 23361). I am appending his post that went to freebsd-hackers. > > Yup, it appears we have a problem here, it seems as if we only support > up to 2^14 cylinders. Does the probe line (dmesg) show the right > cylinder count ?? Call me thick, and everything, but why can't it just be used in LBA/large mode? I seem to recall I have used disks in that fashion before, and the figures for the bigfoot disks are 1465/255/63 and 11680/32/63 Which are both under the 16383 'limit' that seems to exist.. Or am I missing something. I'll admit I am out of my depth here. Julian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Apr 7 04:04:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA06799 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 04:04:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hartley.mintel.co.uk (hartley.mintel.co.uk [194.217.87.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA06775 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 04:04:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jason.thomson@mintel.co.uk) Received: from mintel.co.uk ([10.0.0.233]) by hartley.mintel.co.uk (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA29031 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 12:00:02 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <352A0809.F32F8A7F@mintel.co.uk> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 12:03:37 +0100 From: Jason Thomson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Experience with Compaq ProSignia 200 6/233 (esp SCSI/Ether)? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Has anyone else had any experience with these machines and FreeBSD. I am especially interested to see if the SCSI and Ethernet controllers are supported. According to the Compaq web page, http://www.compaq.com/products/servers/prosignia200/index.html integrated Netelligent 10/100 PCI UTP/Coax Wide Ultra SCSI 3 in a PCI slot We may also want to put a synchronous serial card into this machine to connect it to a (partial) T1. (Perhaps an ETInc ET/5025). Any experiences or recommendations would be appreciated. Thanks, Jason. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Apr 7 06:37:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA25338 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 06:37:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA25302; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 06:37:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ct.picker.com) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 9:37:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA07514; Tue, 7 Apr 98 09:37:11 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA07629; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 09:36:52 -0400 Message-Id: <19980407093652.31657@ct.picker.com> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 09:36:52 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Donald Burr , FreeBSD Questions Cc: FreeBSD Hardware , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: BrookTree 848 causing my screen to get messed up, how to fix? Mail-Followup-To: Donald Burr , FreeBSD Questions , FreeBSD Hardware , multimedia@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Donald Burr on Mon, Apr 06, 1998 at 10:39:05AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Donald Burr: |I just acquired a BrookTree 848 based TV capture card. It appears to be a ... |In any case, I got the driver compiled, and the fxtv port compiled and |working. I can successfully view the TV tuner output in a window on my |screen. | |However, when that window is visible (i.e. not hidden behind any other |windows), it causes the rest of my screen to become garbled, so that |all windows (xterms, my Netscape browser, etc.) become virtually |unreadable. | |If the window is hidden behind another, nothing gets garbled. Right. If you run "fxtv -disableDirectV" or put "*disableDirectV: true" in your Fxtv resource file or .Xdefaults, you'll not have this problem when its on top either. However that's the fall-back plan. You'd prefer for direct video to work if possible. When the window is on top, fxtv configures the capture card to write directly to your frame buffer directly rather than through X (very fast and low overhead). Works great as long as Fxtv can determine your frame buffer memory aperature's geometry from the X server. If you're running in a 24 or 32 bits-per-pixel video mode, here are some things to try to get your direct video configured up correctly: fxtv -colorbars -xrm "Fxtv.Bpp24bit: 3" fxtv -colorbars -xrm "Fxtv.Bpp24bit: 4" fxtv -colorbars -xrm "Fxtv.Bpp32bit: 3" fxtv -colorbars -xrm "Fxtv.Bpp32bit: 4" See if one of these doesn't get the TV all inside the window. If you find one that works, insert it into your Fxtv resource file or .Xdefaults. However given that you have a 2Meg video card as you said, I suspect you're probably running 16-bit in which case these don't help you. If so, this is an indication that the X server drivers for your card aren't returning the correct frame buffer memory aperture geometry for it, and disabling direct video is your best course of action for now. Higher CPU utilization and slower frame rates, but you won't get screen corruption. I'll be happy to help you trace this down. Let me know what you find out, and send me the output of "fxtv -debug startup" and "xdpyinfo". We can determine if this is the X server's fault or not, and if so, you can flip in a bug report to XFree. |The same thing happens when I use the Windows software that came with the |card. Hmm. Sounds like the Windoze Direct* drivers are confused about your frame buffer geometry as well. Randall Hopper To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Apr 7 09:40:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA17057 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 09:40:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gw1.asacomputers.com (root@gw1.asacomputers.com [204.69.220.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA17052 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 09:40:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kedar@asacomputers.com) Received: by gw1.asacomputers.com id JAA26309; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 09:41:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19980407163717.01263dc0@gw1> X-Sender: rajadnya@gw1 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 09:37:17 -0700 To: Tom From: Kedar Rajadnya Subject: Re: Adaptec U2SCSI/7890/7891. Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org O.K. Thanks. So I guess I have to use the Adaptec 2940UW with the new U2SCSI drives. The problem is that they do not seem to be working with teh new Seagate ST39173W. The Buslogic 958 will, but I am having some problems with their 'tag-queing' in FreeBSD. Any comments, pointers, please? Kedar. At 12:41 PM 4/6/98 -0700, you wrote: > >On Mon, 6 Apr 1998, Kedar Rajadnya wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> Does anybody happen to know if the Adaptec U2SCSI cards, or 7890/91 >> chips, will be supported under 2.2.6? > > No, and probably will not be. The upcoming CAM patch kit for 2.2 _may_ >have support for it. The existing SCSI layer is no longer being >developed. > >> Also, on the DPT support, would anybody happen to know if there is >> support for any cards other than the PM3334UW series? > > All PCI cards should be supported, but the PM3334UW is the fastest >supported card. > >> THAadvanceNKS, >> Kedar. > >Tom > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Apr 7 10:11:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA21728 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 10:11:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from misery.sdf.com (misery.sdf.com [204.244.213.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA21680 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 10:10:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@sdf.com) Received: from tom by misery.sdf.com with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 0yMbUw-0000Dr-00; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 09:45:22 -0700 Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 09:45:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom To: Jason Thomson cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Experience with Compaq ProSignia 200 6/233 (esp SCSI/Ether)? In-Reply-To: <352A0809.F32F8A7F@mintel.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 7 Apr 1998, Jason Thomson wrote: > http://www.compaq.com/products/servers/prosignia200/index.html > integrated Netelligent 10/100 PCI UTP/Coax > Wide Ultra SCSI 3 in a PCI slot I belive that Compaq uses a standard chipset of some kind of the ethernet. Compaq SCSI is often completely unique, especially the on-board ones, but this one sounds like it is standard PCI card of some kind. Compaq machines should be your last resort for FreeBSD, and if you are going to use them, you should be prepared to install compatibile controllers. Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Apr 7 11:55:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA15035 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:55:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from webchat2.wbs.net (ws3.wbs.net [207.88.172.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA15002; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:55:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bob@wbs.net) Received: (from bob@localhost) by webchat2.wbs.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) id LAA06905; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:54:53 -0700 Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:54:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Lash To: "John S. Dyson" , technical@wbs.net cc: sos@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, julian@ivision.co.uk Subject: Re: 12.0 GB Quantum Bigfoot TX IDE seen as 8.4 GB In-Reply-To: <199804070709.CAA20391@dyson.iquest.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Yup, it appears we have a problem here, it seems as if we only support > > up to 2^14 cylinders. Does the probe line (dmesg) show the right > > cylinder count ?? No... dmesg shows the cylinder count capped off at 16383 (instead of the 23,361 value found by BIOS). Here are the relevant dmesg messages: wdc0: unit 1 (wd1): wd1: 8063MB (16514064 sectors), 16383 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa wdc1: unit 0 (wd2): wd2: 8063MB (16514064 sectors), 16383 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc1: unit 1 (wd3): wd3: 8063MB (16514064 sectors), 16383 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S > > If Bob wants to fix it himself, we would also be willing to commit the > changes. > > John > Thanks for the thought, John -- I wish I knew enough about the inner workings of freeBSD to directly help with the code... :) Best wishes, Bob Lash bob@wbs.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Apr 7 12:05:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA16985 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 12:05:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from webchat2.wbs.net (ws3.wbs.net [207.88.172.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA16842; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 12:03:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bob@wbs.net) Received: (from bob@localhost) by webchat2.wbs.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) id MAA07139; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 12:03:43 -0700 Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 12:03:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Lash To: "John S. Dyson" , technical@wbs.net, sos@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, julian@ivision.co.uk Subject: Re: 12.0 GB Quantum Bigfoot TX IDE seen as 8.4 GB In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Correction -- the dmesg file for this machine shows: wdc0: unit 1 (wd1): wd1: 8063MB (16514064 sectors), 16383 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa wdc1: unit 0 (wd2): wd2: 8063MB (16514064 sectors), 16383 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc1: unit 1 (wd3): wd3: 8063MB (16514064 sectors), 16383 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S (The other dmesg listing was for it's sister machine, which actully *does* have 8.4 Gig drives on it! Ooops...) - Bob On Tue, 7 Apr 1998, Bob Lash wrote: > > > Yup, it appears we have a problem here, it seems as if we only support > > > up to 2^14 cylinders. Does the probe line (dmesg) show the right > > > cylinder count ?? > > No... dmesg shows the cylinder count capped off at 16383 (instead of > the 23,361 value found by BIOS). Here are the relevant dmesg messages: > > wdc0: unit 1 (wd1): > wd1: 8063MB (16514064 sectors), 16383 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S > wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa > wdc1: unit 0 (wd2): > wd2: 8063MB (16514064 sectors), 16383 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S > wdc1: unit 1 (wd3): > wd3: 8063MB (16514064 sectors), 16383 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S > > > > > If Bob wants to fix it himself, we would also be willing to commit the > > changes. > > > > John > > > > Thanks for the thought, John -- I wish I knew enough about the inner > workings of freeBSD to directly help with the code... :) > > Best wishes, > > Bob Lash > bob@wbs.net > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Apr 7 12:46:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA24555 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 12:46:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sos.freebsd.dk (sos.freebsd.dk [195.8.129.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA24320; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 12:45:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sos@sos.freebsd.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by sos.freebsd.dk (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA10482; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 21:43:59 +0200 (MEST) (envelope-from sos) Message-Id: <199804071943.VAA10482@sos.freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: 12.0 GB Quantum Bigfoot TX IDE seen as 8.4 GB In-Reply-To: from Bob Lash at "Apr 7, 98 12:03:43 pm" To: bob@wbs.net (Bob Lash) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 21:43:59 +0200 (MEST) Cc: toor@dyson.iquest.net, technical@wbs.net, sos@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, julian@ivision.co.uk From: Søren Schmidt Reply-to: sos@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL30 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In reply to Bob Lash who wrote: > Correction -- the dmesg file for this machine shows: > > wdc0: unit 1 (wd1): > wd1: 8063MB (16514064 sectors), 16383 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S > wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa > wdc1: unit 0 (wd2): > wd2: 8063MB (16514064 sectors), 16383 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S > wdc1: unit 1 (wd3): > wd3: 8063MB (16514064 sectors), 16383 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S > > > > If Bob wants to fix it himself, we would also be willing to commit the > > > changes. > > > > Thanks for the thought, John -- I wish I knew enough about the inner > > workings of freeBSD to directly help with the code... :) Hmm, just checked the ATA4 std, and this is exactly yhe geometry that should be returned for devices with more than 16515072 sectors, ie 8.4G. So what we are seeing is a "feature" of the ATA4 std :( It seems that such a device should be LBA adressed instead of CHS, which we use, so we need to modify the driver to do that. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Søren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org) FreeBSD Core Team Even more code to hack -- will it ever end .. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Apr 7 12:49:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA25630 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 12:49:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from austin.polstra.com (austin.polstra.com [206.213.73.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA25591 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 12:49:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@austin.polstra.com) Received: from austin.polstra.com (jdp@localhost) by austin.polstra.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA29034; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 12:49:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp) Message-Id: <199804071949.MAA29034@austin.polstra.com> To: jason.thomson@mintel.co.uk Subject: Re: Experience with Compaq ProSignia 200 6/233 (esp SCSI/Ether)? In-Reply-To: <352A0809.F32F8A7F@mintel.co.uk> References: <352A0809.F32F8A7F@mintel.co.uk> Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Cc: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 12:49:41 -0700 From: John Polstra Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In article <352A0809.F32F8A7F@mintel.co.uk>, Jason Thomson wrote: > According to the Compaq web page, > > http://www.compaq.com/products/servers/prosignia200/index.html > > > integrated Netelligent 10/100 PCI UTP/Coax This is based on the TI ThunderLan chip. FreeBSD does not have a driver for it. > Wide Ultra SCSI 3 in a PCI slot I'm not sure about this one. I've seen an integrated SCSI controller on a Compaq that was based on the NCR 875, if I remember correctly. It "worked" with FreeBSD, but there were some problems. In general, Compaq hardware is always just a little bit different from everything else. John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Self-knowledge is always bad news." -- John Barth To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Apr 7 13:42:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA09322 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:42:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA09102; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:41:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ct.picker.com) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 16:40:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA21926; Tue, 7 Apr 98 16:40:34 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA11089; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 16:40:12 -0400 Message-Id: <19980407164012.50952@ct.picker.com> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 16:40:12 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Donald Burr , FreeBSD Questions Cc: FreeBSD Hardware , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, Amancio Hasty Subject: Re: BrookTree 848 causing my screen to get messed up, how to fix? Mail-Followup-To: Donald Burr , FreeBSD Questions , FreeBSD Hardware , multimedia@freebsd.org, Amancio Hasty References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Donald Burr on Mon, Apr 06, 1998 at 10:39:05AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org And I'll let a driver guru take this piece of your message -- any thoughts Amancio? (Ccing A.Hasty, and -multimedia in case others there have clues). Randall Donald Burr: |And FreeBSD does recognize it [Donald's Bt848-based "TV Capturer" card]: | |bktr0 rev 18 int a irq 10 on pci0:10:0 |Miro TV, Temic NTSC tuner. ... |occasionally, the card gets really confused, and it thinks that it's a |PAL card instead of an NTSC card: | |bktr0 rev 18 int a irq 10 on pci0:10:0 |Miro TV, Philips PAL I tuner. | |Naturally, this means that I can't view anything (being in the USA, our |cable systems are NTSC). Switching modes in the FXTV program does *not* |work. | |Any ideas? Please e-mail if possible. Thanks! ... |Here, in brief, are the details of my system: | |Pentium 133, motherboard based on VIA VP 586 Apollo chipset, Creative Labs |Graphics Blaster MA202 with 2 MB VRAM (Cirrus Logic CL-GD5446). Other |cards in system include Adaptec AHA-2940AU PCI SCSI controller, ISA NE-2000 |ethernet clone, USR Sportster 56K modem, Sound Blaster ViBRA16C PnP sound |card. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Apr 7 14:04:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA15764 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 14:04:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gatekeeper.alcatel.com.au (gatekeeper.alcatel.com.au [203.17.66.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA15657 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 14:03:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Peter.Jeremy@alcatel.com.au) Received: from mfg1.cim.alcatel.com.au ([139.188.23.1]) by gatekeeper.alcatel.com.au (PMDF V5.1-7 #U2695) with ESMTP id <01IVM96RAC800007YT@gatekeeper.alcatel.com.au> for freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 07:02:54 +1000 Received: from cbd.alcatel.com.au by cim.alcatel.com.au (PMDF V5.1-10 #23324) with ESMTP id <01IVM96OXUOGC2J41S@cim.alcatel.com.au> for freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 08 Apr 1998 07:02:51 +1000 Received: from gsms01.alcatel.com.au by cbd.alcatel.com.au (PMDF V5.1-7 #U2695) with ESMTP id <01IVM96MI2G0AZTRTV@cbd.alcatel.com.au> for freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 08 Apr 1998 07:02:48 +1100 Received: (from jeremyp@localhost) by gsms01.alcatel.com.au (8.8.8/8.7.3) id HAA19751 for freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 08 Apr 1998 07:02:46 +1000 (EST) Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 07:02:46 +1000 (EST) From: Peter Jeremy Subject: Re: Experience with Compaq ProSignia 200 6/233 (esp SCSI/Ether)? To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: <199804072102.HAA19751@gsms01.alcatel.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 07 Apr 1998 09:45:16 -0700 (PDT), Tom wrote: > Compaq machines should be your last resort for FreeBSD, My sentiments also, unfortunately, I may be stuck with one due to company policy :-(. On Tue, 07 Apr 1998 12:49:41 -0700, John Polstra wrote: >Jason Thomson wrote: >> integrated Netelligent 10/100 PCI UTP/Coax > >This is based on the TI ThunderLan chip. FreeBSD does not have a >driver for it. I started some discussion on this several months ago. I didn't get anywhere, but TI make all the relevant programming information available. Also, there is a Linux driver for the ThunderLan chip (see ftp://ftp.caldera.com/pub/stuff/tlan-0.30.tar.gz - or maybe a later version) that we are using here on some Linux boxes here. If I can't escape getting stuck with a Compaq, I'll probably wind up having to port or re-write the driver. The other thing to look out for is the video card. I did some experiments here and found that Compaq appear to have done something to their S3 card which makes it incompatible with XFree86. >In general, Compaq hardware is always just a little bit different >from everything else. Amen. Peter -- Peter Jeremy (VK2PJ) peter.jeremy@alcatel.com.au Alcatel Australia Limited 41 Mandible St Phone: +61 2 9690 5019 ALEXANDRIA NSW 2015 Fax: +61 2 9690 5247 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Apr 7 14:46:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA25195 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 14:46:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA25047; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 14:45:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA19325; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 14:45:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199804072145.OAA19325@rah.star-gate.com> To: Randall Hopper cc: Donald Burr , FreeBSD Questions , FreeBSD Hardware , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, Amancio Hasty , hasty@rah.star-gate.com Subject: Re: BrookTree 848 causing my screen to get messed up, how to fix? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 07 Apr 1998 16:40:12 EDT." <19980407164012.50952@ct.picker.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <19322.891985530.1@rah.star-gate.com> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 14:45:30 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org It is probably the VIA chipset . Perhaps the group can enlightenment me by letting me know if anyone else with a Natoma or Triton PCI chipset is having similar problems. Cheers, Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Apr 7 16:12:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA15568 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 16:12:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from musca.digicon-brs.com.au (musca.digicon-brs.com.au [140.253.221.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA15515 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 16:11:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Steve_Hearn@digicon-brs.com.au) Received: from brisbane.digicon-brs.com.au (brisbane.digicon-brs.com.au [140.253.221.31]) by musca.digicon-brs.com.au (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id JAA01953 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 09:10:02 +1000 (EST) Received: by brisbane.digicon-brs.com.au(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.1 (385.6 5-6-1997)) id CA2565DF.0078F779 ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 09:01:16 +1100 X-Lotus-FromDomain: VES From: "Steve Hearn" To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 09:01:12 +1100 Subject: Freebsd + scanner recommendations Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Having just spent several frustrating hours scanning on a Win95 box.... I would really like to put a scanner (just basically A4 color style) on one of my freebsd boxes. Can anyone point me to a reliable hardware/software configuration for freebsd. Preferably SCSI. I think I saw in a recent post that xv supports HP scanners? Thanks for any help. Steve Hearn Exploration Geophysics Lab University of Queensland. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Apr 7 17:29:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA29325 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 17:29:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA29318 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 17:29:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA18981; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 17:28:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) To: "Steve Hearn" cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Freebsd + scanner recommendations In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 08 Apr 1998 09:01:12 +1100." Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 17:28:25 -0700 Message-ID: <18977.891995305@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Can anyone point me to a reliable hardware/software configuration for > freebsd. Preferably SCSI. I use a Scanjet 4P on my FreeBSD box and it works great - many of the pictures at www.freebsd.org were scanned in with it. > I think I saw in a recent post that xv supports HP scanners? No, you need to (as I have) buy xvscan for what is a very reasonable price or settle for greatly reduced functionality with the `hpscan' port in /usr/ports/graphics (which I beat on a bit when I first got my scanner and is at least functional). http://www.tummy.com for the xvscan product. Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Apr 7 18:28:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA11206 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 18:28:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ifi.uio.no (0@ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA10242; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 18:24:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dag-erli@ifi.uio.no) Received: from hrotti.ifi.uio.no (2602@hrotti.ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.15]) by ifi.uio.no (8.8.8/8.8.7/ifi0.2) with ESMTP id DAA27630; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 03:24:03 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from dag-erli@localhost) by hrotti.ifi.uio.no ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 03:24:02 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Accton EN1207 (need help fast) Organization: Gutteklubben Terrasse / KRST / PUMS / YASMW X-url: http://www.stud.ifi.uio.no/~dag-erli/ X-Stop-Spam: http://www.cauce.org From: dag-erli@ifi.uio.no (Dag-Erling Coidan =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?= ) Date: 08 Apr 1998 03:24:01 +0200 Message-ID: Lines: 32 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm having trouble getting a brand new Accton EN1207 (Cheetah) to work on my FreeBSD 2.2.6-STABLE system. The adapter is detected as follows: de0 rev 34 int a irq 5 on pci0:9:0 de0: ACCTON EN1207 21140A [10-100Mb/s] pass 2.2 de0: address 00:00:e8:4a:83:63 de0: enabling 100baseTX port I have set up the following in rc.conf.local: network_interfaces="lo0 de0 lp0" ifconfig_de0="inet 62.92.165.69 netmask 255.255.224.0" I have also tried: network_interfaces="lo0 de0 lp0" ifconfig_de0="inet 62.92.165.69 netmask 255.255.224.0 media 10baseT/UTP" IP, netmask, gateway, etc. are all correct - everything works perfectly with my old 3Com 3c509 (ep0). I get a link light on the hub when I connect to it - the hub and the cable are known to be working. If I try to ping the broadcast address, the link light will blink once a second (as one would expect) but it would seem that no data is getting through. I need to get this working within 24 hours if at all possible, so I'd appreciate a quick response from anybody who has experience with that adapter and/or chipset. -- fprintf(stderr, "I have a closed mind. It helps keeping the rain out.\n"); To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Apr 8 05:14:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA23832 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 05:14:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gatekeeper.itribe.net (gatekeeper.itribe.net [209.49.144.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA23779 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 05:13:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jamie@itribe.net) Message-Id: <199804081212.IAA01663@gatekeeper.itribe.net> Received: forwarded by SMTP 1.5.2. Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 08:14:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Jamie Bowden To: Steve Hearn cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Freebsd + scanner recommendations In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, Steve Hearn wrote: > > Having just spent several frustrating hours scanning on a Win95 box.... > > I would really like to put a scanner (just basically A4 color style) on one > of my > freebsd boxes. > > Can anyone point me to a reliable hardware/software configuration for > freebsd. Preferably SCSI. > > I think I saw in a recent post that xv supports HP scanners? > > Thanks for any help. There is a company out there that sells a product called xvscan for $50. It comes as a fully registered copy of xv, with HP scanner support. There is also hpscan in the ports. Having used xvscan, I can tell you it's a nice product, and having registered xv is a nice side bonus. I have no experience with hpscan. -- Jamie Bowden Systems Administrator, iTRiBE.net If we've got to fight over grep, sign me up. But boggle can go. -Ted Faber (on Hasbro's request for removal of /usr/games/boggle) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Apr 8 06:47:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA04126 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 06:47:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from uk1.imdb.com (UK1.IMDb.COM [192.68.174.59]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA04121 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 06:47:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robh@imdb.com) Received: from robh.imdb.com [194.222.68.23] by uk1.imdb.com with esmtp (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0yMv8I-0001xr-00; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 14:43:19 +0100 Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 14:34:10 +0100 (BST) From: Rob Hartill X-Sender: robh@localhost To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Freebsd + scanner recommendations In-Reply-To: <199804081212.IAA01663@gatekeeper.itribe.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, Jamie Bowden wrote: > On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, Steve Hearn wrote: > > > > > Having just spent several frustrating hours scanning on a Win95 box.... > > > > I would really like to put a scanner (just basically A4 color style) on one > > of my > > freebsd boxes. > > > > Can anyone point me to a reliable hardware/software configuration for > > freebsd. Preferably SCSI. > > > > I think I saw in a recent post that xv supports HP scanners? > > > > Thanks for any help. > > There is a company out there that sells a product called xvscan for $50. > It comes as a fully registered copy of xv, with HP scanner support. There > is also hpscan in the ports. Having used xvscan, I can tell you it's a > nice product, and having registered xv is a nice side bonus. I have no > experience with hpscan. Anyone know if it'll scan from a HP officejet 635 ? I'd prefer scanning from FreeBSD than have to waste money on Windoze 95 just to be able to scan. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Apr 8 07:49:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA12726 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 07:49:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.mexcom.net (ver2-94.uninet.net.mx [200.38.135.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA12292 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 07:48:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eculp@ver1.telmex.net.mx) Received: from sunix (telmex@sunix.mexcom.net [206.103.64.3]) by ns.mexcom.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA03438; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 09:43:22 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <352B8EF4.281054FA@ver1.telmex.net.mx> Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 09:51:32 -0500 From: Edwin Culp Organization: Mexico Communicates, S.C. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; Linux 2.0.14 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jamie Bowden CC: Steve Hearn , freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Freebsd + scanner recommendations References: <199804081212.IAA01663@gatekeeper.itribe.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jamie Bowden wrote: > > On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, Steve Hearn wrote: > > > > > Having just spent several frustrating hours scanning on a Win95 box.... > > > > I would really like to put a scanner (just basically A4 color style) on one > > of my > > freebsd boxes. > > > > Can anyone point me to a reliable hardware/software configuration for > > freebsd. Preferably SCSI. > > > > I think I saw in a recent post that xv supports HP scanners? > > > > Thanks for any help. > > There is a company out there that sells a product called xvscan for $50. > It comes as a fully registered copy of xv, with HP scanner support. There > is also hpscan in the ports. Having used xvscan, I can tell you it's a > nice product, and having registered xv is a nice side bonus. I have no > experience with hpscan. > > -- > Jamie Bowden > Systems Administrator, iTRiBE.net > There is also /usr/ports/graphics/sane that I understand can be used with /usr/ports/graphics/gimp-devel that also uses /usr/ports/graphics/gtk. In theory this would be a dinamite package, but I haven't been able to get them to compile in current or in stable. The current versions are gimp-0.99.23.tar.gz gtk+-0.99.9.tar.gz and sane-0.71.tar.gz. The first two can be found on http://www.gimp.org and the later on http://www.mostang.com/sane. ed To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Apr 8 09:35:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA05662 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 09:35:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gw1.asacomputers.com (root@gw1.asacomputers.com [204.69.220.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA05573; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 09:35:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kedar@asacomputers.com) Received: by gw1.asacomputers.com id JAA01071; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 09:36:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19980408163224.009966b8@gw1> X-Sender: rajadnya@gw1 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 09:32:24 -0700 To: Amancio Hasty From: Kedar Rajadnya Subject: Re: BrookTree 848 causing my screen to get messed up, how to fix? Cc: FreeBSD Questions , FreeBSD Hardware , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, We are having a sub-set of the problem with the 440FX chipset. We are using the Hauppauge WincastTV. It sometimes decides it is PAL. I've been trying to find out why we received a PAL card in the U.S. I'm guessing we have the right cards and are experiencing what Mr. Burr is? On the current issue, maybe the VGA is not one of the BT848 'compatible' ones? Thanks, Kedar. At 02:45 PM 4/7/98 -0700, you wrote: >It is probably the VIA chipset . Perhaps the group can enlightenment me >by letting me know if anyone else with a Natoma or Triton PCI chipset >is having similar problems. > Cheers, > Amancio > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Apr 8 09:53:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA09369 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 09:53:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from narnia.plutotech.com (narnia.plutotech.com [206.168.67.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA09312 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 09:53:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gibbs@narnia.plutotech.com) Received: (from gibbs@localhost) by narnia.plutotech.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) id KAA14050; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 10:49:26 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 10:49:26 -0600 (MDT) From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Message-Id: <199804081649.KAA14050@narnia.plutotech.com> To: Tom cc: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Adaptec U2SCSI/7890/7891. Newsgroups: pluto.freebsd.hardware In-Reply-To: User-Agent: tin/pre-1.4-971204 (UNIX) (FreeBSD/3.0-CURRENT (i386)) Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In article you wrote: > > On Mon, 6 Apr 1998, Kedar Rajadnya wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> Does anybody happen to know if the Adaptec U2SCSI cards, or 7890/91 >> chips, will be supported under 2.2.6? > > No, and probably will not be. The upcoming CAM patch kit for 2.2 _may_ > have support for it. The existing SCSI layer is no longer being > developed. The 2.2-stable CAM patches will support this card, but I have yet to be able to test it with an LVD device. The CAM driver does, in theory, have full LVD support. -- Justin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Apr 8 09:55:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA10296 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 09:55:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sos.freebsd.dk (sos.freebsd.dk [195.8.129.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA10135; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 09:55:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sos@sos.freebsd.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by sos.freebsd.dk (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA12973; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 18:54:49 +0200 (MEST) (envelope-from sos) Message-Id: <199804081654.SAA12973@sos.freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: 12.0 GB Quantum Bigfoot TX IDE seen as 8.4 GB In-Reply-To: from Bob Lash at "Apr 7, 98 12:03:43 pm" To: bob@wbs.net (Bob Lash) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 18:54:49 +0200 (MEST) Cc: toor@dyson.iquest.net, technical@wbs.net, sos@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, julian@ivision.co.uk From: Søren Schmidt Reply-to: sos@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL30 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Just to inform the parties, I've done a patch that is now being tested. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Søren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org) FreeBSD Core Team Even more code to hack -- will it ever end .. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Apr 8 13:21:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA12515 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 13:21:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gw.teledigit.se ([193.14.252.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA12497 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 13:20:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stefan@teledigit.se) Received: (from smap@localhost) by gw.teledigit.se (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA03810 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 22:00:26 +0200 (MET DST) X-Authentication-Warning: gw.teledigit.se: smap set sender to using -f Received: from unknown(192.168.19.12) by gw.teledigit.se via smap (V1.3) id sma003808; Wed Apr 8 22:00:13 1998 Message-ID: <352BF71E.52C600F4@teledigit.se> Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 00:15:58 +0200 From: Stefan Lindgren X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-971208-SNAP i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ASUS ASUS P/I-P65UP8 with i960? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello Hardware. Is there anyone that uses the ASUS P/I-P65UP8 whith Dual PP? And if, is that same using on-board SCSI (Adaptec and Symbios)? And more, the I/O subsystem which you can upgrade to 256 MB of I/O MEM, is FreeBSD I/O gaining anything? Thanks in advance Stefan Lindgren To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Apr 8 13:59:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA16706 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 13:59:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sos.freebsd.dk (sos.freebsd.dk [195.8.129.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA16700 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 13:59:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sos@sos.freebsd.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by sos.freebsd.dk (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA00391; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 22:38:14 +0200 (MEST) (envelope-from sos) Message-Id: <199804082038.WAA00391@sos.freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: ASUS ASUS P/I-P65UP8 with i960? In-Reply-To: <352BF71E.52C600F4@teledigit.se> from Stefan Lindgren at "Apr 9, 98 00:15:58 am" To: stefan@teledigit.se (Stefan Lindgren) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 22:38:13 +0200 (MEST) Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG From: Søren Schmidt Reply-to: sos@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL30 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In reply to Stefan Lindgren who wrote: > Hello Hardware. > > Is there anyone that uses the ASUS P/I-P65UP8 whith Dual > PP? And if, is that same using on-board SCSI > (Adaptec and Symbios)? And more, the I/O subsystem which you can > upgrade to 256 MB of I/O MEM, is FreeBSD I/O gaining anything? Hmm, I dont know of any users, but FreeBSD has no drivers for the i960 I/O processor on that board. I sure that if somebody wrote dedicated drivers for this there will be an advantage. Depends on how/if you can get documentation for the HW... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Søren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org) FreeBSD Core Team Even more code to hack -- will it ever end .. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Apr 8 17:09:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA16603 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 17:09:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from einstein.fisica.ist.utl.pt (gabriel@dns.fisica.ist.utl.pt [193.136.197.224]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA16591 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 17:09:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gabriel@maquina.com) Received: from localhost (gabriel@localhost) by einstein.fisica.ist.utl.pt (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA24942; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 01:08:48 +0100 Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 01:07:00 +0100 (BST) From: Jose Gabriel J Marcelino X-Sender: gabriel@einstein.fisica.ist.utl.pt To: Stefan Lindgren Subject: Re: ASUS ASUS P/I-P65UP8 with i960? In-Reply-To: <352BF71E.52C600F4@teledigit.se> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, Stefan Lindgren wrote: > Hello Hardware. > > Is there anyone that uses the ASUS P/I-P65UP8 whith Dual > PP? And if, is that same using on-board SCSI > (Adaptec and Symbios)? And more, the I/O subsystem which you can > upgrade to 256 MB of I/O MEM, is FreeBSD I/O gaining anything? There isn't and there can't be any real support on the Free OS's of the special i2o I/O architecture on that board. It's a closed non-disclosure contract bound "standard". There was a leak of the i2o specs some time ago but there seemed to be errors on so nothing could come of it. Check http://open-i2o.abies.com for more information. -- Jose Gabriel J Marcelino gabriel@maquina.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Apr 8 19:45:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA04563 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 19:45:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from misery.sdf.com (misery.sdf.com [204.244.213.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA04524 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 19:45:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@sdf.com) Received: from tom by misery.sdf.com with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 0yN6vO-0001pn-00; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 19:18:46 -0700 Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 19:18:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom To: Stefan Lindgren cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ASUS ASUS P/I-P65UP8 with i960? In-Reply-To: <352BF71E.52C600F4@teledigit.se> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, Stefan Lindgren wrote: > Hello Hardware. > > Is there anyone that uses the ASUS P/I-P65UP8 whith Dual > PP? And if, is that same using on-board SCSI > (Adaptec and Symbios)? And more, the I/O subsystem which you can > upgrade to 256 MB of I/O MEM, is FreeBSD I/O gaining anything? This motherboard is almost unusable, because there is no I2O driver, nor will there be one soon as the I2O specs seem to be rather protected. This isn't a very good motherboard otherwise. Still uses the old 72pin SIMMS (yech!). I'd must rather have something that supports SD ECC DIMMs. Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Apr 8 20:18:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA10371 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 20:18:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gw.teledigit.se ([193.14.252.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA10352 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 20:18:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stefan@teledigit.se) Received: (from smap@localhost) by gw.teledigit.se (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA07957 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 04:57:35 +0200 (MET DST) X-Authentication-Warning: gw.teledigit.se: smap set sender to using -f Received: from unknown(192.168.19.12) by gw.teledigit.se via smap (V1.3) id sma007955; Thu Apr 9 04:57:08 1998 Message-ID: <352C58D4.90A7A899@teledigit.se> Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 07:12:52 +0200 From: Stefan Lindgren X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-971208-SNAP i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Dual PP MB of choice? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, again. Thanks a lot for the fast responses about the ASUS P/I-P65UP8 MB. Is there any suggestions about a lightning fast >= 2 PP MB with integrated U/W SCSI that supports 1 GB RAM? Thanks in advance Stefan Lindgren To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Apr 8 20:33:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA11481 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 20:33:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from picnic.mat.net (picnic.mat.net [206.246.122.117]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA11463 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 20:32:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chuckr@glue.umd.edu) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost) by picnic.mat.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA01033; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 22:29:01 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 22:29:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@localhost To: Stefan Lindgren cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Dual PP MB of choice? In-Reply-To: <352C58D4.90A7A899@teledigit.se> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, Stefan Lindgren wrote: > Hi, again. > > Thanks a lot for the fast responses about the ASUS P/I-P65UP8 MB. > > Is there any suggestions about a lightning fast >= 2 PP MB with > integrated U/W SCSI that supports 1 GB RAM? I wouldn't mind being corrected here if I'm wrong, but if I remember right, there was discussion some time back, that the Adaptec-derived scsi controllers that were integrated onto motherboards were somewhat crippled, at least in terms of on board command memory and tags. I remember the gist I got from the discussion was that I would be better off rejecting the notion of getting an integrated controller (I was shopping for a new system at that time). I know I am tremendously happy with my Tyan Titan-II, and I've heard nothing but good news about it's descendants, the Titan-III boards. > > Thanks in advance > > Stefan Lindgren > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message > > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@glue.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and picnic, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 3.0 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Apr 8 22:22:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA20240 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 22:22:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from panzer.plutotech.com (ken@panzer.plutotech.com [206.168.67.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA20202 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 22:22:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ken@panzer.plutotech.com) Received: (from ken@localhost) by panzer.plutotech.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) id XAA05452; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 23:19:58 -0600 (MDT) From: "Kenneth D. Merry" Message-Id: <199804090519.XAA05452@panzer.plutotech.com> Subject: Re: Dual PP MB of choice? In-Reply-To: from Chuck Robey at "Apr 8, 98 10:29:00 pm" To: chuckr@glue.umd.edu (Chuck Robey) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 23:19:57 -0600 (MDT) Cc: stefan@teledigit.se, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28s (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Chuck Robey wrote... > On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, Stefan Lindgren wrote: > > > Hi, again. > > > > Thanks a lot for the fast responses about the ASUS P/I-P65UP8 MB. > > > > Is there any suggestions about a lightning fast >= 2 PP MB with > > integrated U/W SCSI that supports 1 GB RAM? > > I wouldn't mind being corrected here if I'm wrong, but if I remember > right, there was discussion some time back, that the Adaptec-derived > scsi controllers that were integrated onto motherboards were somewhat > crippled, at least in terms of on board command memory and tags. I > remember the gist I got from the discussion was that I would be better > off rejecting the notion of getting an integrated controller (I was > shopping for a new system at that time). I think it would really depend on which Adaptec chip is on the motherboard. Most newer boards have 7880's or 7895's on board. Both of those offer plenty of tags and good performance. Of course, if you get a motherboard with a 7895 on board, you'll need to run CAM. So, the main thing to look at is which chip is on the motherboard. If it's a 7880, 7895 or 7890, you should get good performance, and you'll save a good bit of money by having it on the motherboard. (from looking at one vendor's web page, there is about a $70 difference for the ASUS Pentium II boards with Adaptec 7880's versus the ones without the SCSI chip. Adaptec 2940UW's from the same place are about $230, so you save $160.) Back to the original question though... If you can, I'd wait a little bit on getting a new system until the Slot-2 chips come out. They'll have a cache that runs at the same speed as the processor, and presumably they'll be able to cache up to 4GB of RAM, unlike the Pentium II. (it can only cache 512MB) Like the 350MHz and 400MHz Pentium II chips, the Slot-2 chips will have a 100MHz memory bus. The 450NX chipset (that will come along with the Slot-2 chips) will also have support for 4-way SMP. If you can't wait, there are some Pentium Pro boards that support more than 512MB of RAM. Most notable, probably, are the 450GX boards. (Intel Alder and AMI Goliath) There are some 440FX boards that support 1GB of ram. This one looks interesting: http://developer.intel.com/design/servers/BB440fx/prodspec.htm (it's actually a server platform, but the specs for the motherboard might interest you) It's got the 440FX chipset, supports up to 1GB of memory, has an onboard 82557 ethernet controller, and an onboard Adaptec 7880. The interesting thing is that I can't find a description or model number for just the motherboard. Ahh...it looks like it uses a "Buck" (B440FX) motherboard: http://developer.intel.com/design/servers/docs/buck-TPS.pdf I haven't heard anything about it though. The specs look good at least. Ken -- Kenneth Merry ken@plutotech.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Apr 8 23:10:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA26407 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 23:10:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from misery.sdf.com (misery.sdf.com [204.244.213.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA26395 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 23:10:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@sdf.com) Received: from tom by misery.sdf.com with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 0yNA7c-0001yF-00; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 22:43:36 -0700 Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 22:43:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom To: Chuck Robey cc: Stefan Lindgren , freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Dual PP MB of choice? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, Chuck Robey wrote: > I wouldn't mind being corrected here if I'm wrong, but if I remember > right, there was discussion some time back, that the Adaptec-derived > scsi controllers that were integrated onto motherboards were somewhat > crippled, at least in terms of on board command memory and tags. I Nope. They use the same chip, the aic7880 (at least ASUS does on the P55T2P4S and the P2LP97DS). The chip is what matters. Adaptec has some cheaper controllers (aic7860?) that aren't as good. Some motherboards use then instead, but Adaptec also puts them on some versions of the Adaptec 2940 controler (wasn't the 2940A one of those?). You also get screwed if buy them. I've pretty much given up on buying Adaptec cards. I either get them on the motherboard, or use DPT controllers now. The DPT driver in 2.2.6 is much more solid than the non-CAM ahc driver. Probably because the controller takes care of nearly all the SCSI protocol handling. Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Apr 9 09:20:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA03070 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 09:20:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gw1.asacomputers.com (root@gw1.asacomputers.com [204.69.220.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA03043 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 09:20:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kedar@asacomputers.com) Received: by gw1.asacomputers.com id JAA14313; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 09:19:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19980409161524.00cee1ec@gw1> X-Sender: rajadnya@gw1 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 09:15:24 -0700 To: Stefan Lindgren From: Kedar Rajadnya Subject: Re: Dual PP MB of choice? Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, We have used the Supermicro DNF with 1GB of RAM on numerous occasions. It has quite happily chugged along. Cons: No SCSI on-board(would you rather not have a seperate card, though?), and it is a FULL AT board which requires at least a full tower. The Intel AP450GX server solution is another option if you can spend a little more and need more than 2 Pentium-PRO CPU's(it can take anything from 1-4, of course). It can go upto 4GB of RAM. It also has a rackmount cousin. Regards, Kedar. At 07:12 AM 4/9/98 +0200, you wrote: >Hi, again. > >Thanks a lot for the fast responses about the ASUS P/I-P65UP8 MB. > >Is there any suggestions about a lightning fast >= 2 PP MB with >integrated U/W SCSI that supports 1 GB RAM? > >Thanks in advance > >Stefan Lindgren > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message