From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun May 24 05:31:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA10361 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Sun, 24 May 1998 05:31:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from woozle.rinet.ru (marck@woozle.rinet.ru [195.54.192.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA10355 for ; Sun, 24 May 1998 05:31:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marck@rinet.ru) Received: from localhost (marck@localhost) by woozle.rinet.ru (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA27210; Sun, 24 May 1998 16:30:40 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from marck@rinet.ru) X-Authentication-Warning: woozle.rinet.ru: marck owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 16:30:40 +0400 (MSD) From: Dmitry Morozovsky To: freebsd-questions@freensd.org cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: dumping really big filesystems to Travan-4 streamer Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello there. 0. FreeBSD 2.2.6-R, ufs with 6G of used space, Travan-4 by Seagate (4G native size) SCSI tape, hardware compression on. Central thing: file system used size is more than 1 tape. dumping with command > dump -0ua -b 32 -f /dev/nrst0 leads to error message at the end of the first tape: DUMP: 57.24% done, finished in 1:40 DUMP: write error 3999584 blocks into volume 1 DUMP: Do you want to restart?: ("yes" or "no") Then, answering "no" leads to abort entire dump; answer "yes" leads to remount tape and rewrite backup set from the very beginning, then to the same error message. Any suggestions? Sincerely, D.Marck ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *** Dmitry Morozovsky --- D.Marck --- Wild Woozle --- marck@rinet.ru *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun May 24 07:57:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA26721 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Sun, 24 May 1998 07:57:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from caladan.tdx.co.uk (caladan.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA26711 for ; Sun, 24 May 1998 07:57:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) Received: from tdx.co.uk (lorca-tx.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.242]) by caladan.tdx.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA00819; Sun, 24 May 1998 15:56:54 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) Message-ID: <35683536.FA1837DF@tdx.co.uk> Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 15:56:54 +0100 From: Karl Pielorz Organization: TDX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dmitry Morozovsky CC: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: dumping really big filesystems to Travan-4 streamer References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dmitry Morozovsky wrote: > > Hello there. > > 0. FreeBSD 2.2.6-R, ufs with 6G of used space, Travan-4 by Seagate (4G > native size) SCSI tape, hardware compression on. Central thing: file system > used size is more than 1 tape. > dumping with command > > dump -0ua -b 32 -f /dev/nrst0 > > leads to error message at the end of the first tape: > > DUMP: 57.24% done, finished in 1:40 > DUMP: write error 3999584 blocks into volume 1 > DUMP: Do you want to restart?: ("yes" or "no") > > Then, answering "no" leads to abort entire dump; answer "yes" leads to > remount tape and rewrite backup set from the very beginning, then to the > same error message. > > Any suggestions? It sounds like it's not seeing the end of the tape - I've only got a workaround for this (I've had similar problems in the past) - in the end I had to turn compression off on the device, and tell dump the actual media size... I'd also like to know a better 'fix' for this ;-) Regards, Karl Pielorz To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun May 24 09:19:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA07277 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Sun, 24 May 1998 09:19:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from woozle.rinet.ru (marck@woozle.rinet.ru [195.54.192.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA07260 for ; Sun, 24 May 1998 09:19:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marck@rinet.ru) Received: from localhost (marck@localhost) by woozle.rinet.ru (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id UAA00361; Sun, 24 May 1998 20:18:55 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from marck@rinet.ru) X-Authentication-Warning: woozle.rinet.ru: marck owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 20:18:55 +0400 (MSD) From: Dmitry Morozovsky To: Karl Pielorz cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: dumping really big filesystems to Travan-4 streamer In-Reply-To: <35683536.FA1837DF@tdx.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 24 May 1998, Karl Pielorz wrote: > > 0. FreeBSD 2.2.6-R, ufs with 6G of used space, Travan-4 by Seagate (4G > > native size) SCSI tape, hardware compression on. Central thing: file system > > used size is more than 1 tape. > > dumping with command > > > dump -0ua -b 32 -f /dev/nrst0 > > > > leads to error message at the end of the first tape: > > > > DUMP: 57.24% done, finished in 1:40 > > DUMP: write error 3999584 blocks into volume 1 > > DUMP: Do you want to restart?: ("yes" or "no") > > > > Then, answering "no" leads to abort entire dump; answer "yes" leads to > > remount tape and rewrite backup set from the very beginning, then to the > > same error message. > > > > Any suggestions? > > It sounds like it's not seeing the end of the tape - I've only got a > workaround for this (I've had similar problems in the past) - in the end I > had to turn compression off on the device, and tell dump the actual media > size... I'd also like to know a better 'fix' for this ;-) Well, at least this MAY be useful; however, it's not in my plans to turn compression off forever; so, do you (or someone else?) know tape mode or SCSI command to turn compression off and on? Sincerely, D.Marck ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *** Dmitry Morozovsky --- D.Marck --- Wild Woozle --- marck@rinet.ru *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun May 24 12:08:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA25603 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Sun, 24 May 1998 12:08:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.mexcom.net (ver2-95.uninet.net.mx [200.38.135.95]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA25589 for ; Sun, 24 May 1998 12:08:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eculp@ver1.telmex.net.mx) Received: from mc.mexcom.net (telmex@ppp-7.mexcom.net [206.103.65.199]) by ns.mexcom.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA15070 for ; Sun, 24 May 1998 14:04:08 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <356870B5.450BD391@ver1.telmex.net.mx> Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 14:10:45 -0500 From: Edwin Culp Organization: Mexico Communicates, S.A. de C.V. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; Linux 2.0.18 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Quickcam-VC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Has anyone been able to get Quickcam-VC to work? It doesn't seem to be compatible with color quickcam. Thanks ed To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun May 24 12:44:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA01096 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Sun, 24 May 1998 12:44:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from antipodes.cdrom.com (castles313.castles.com [208.214.167.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA01066 for ; Sun, 24 May 1998 12:44:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@antipodes.cdrom.com) Received: from antipodes.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by antipodes.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA07559; Sun, 24 May 1998 11:40:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199805241840.LAA07559@antipodes.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Edwin Culp cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Quickcam-VC In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 24 May 1998 14:10:45 CDT." <356870B5.450BD391@ver1.telmex.net.mx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 11:40:06 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Has anyone been able to get Quickcam-VC to work? It doesn't seem > to be compatible with color quickcam. Not AFAIK, it is indeed 100% incompatible. In fact, it's so incompatible it causes the old qcam driver to explode. We had someone that was supposed to be working on it, but they appear to have disappeared. 8( -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun May 24 13:38:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA08352 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Sun, 24 May 1998 13:38:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from caladan.tdx.co.uk (caladan.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA08347 for ; Sun, 24 May 1998 13:38:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) Received: from tdx.co.uk (lorca-tx.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.242]) by caladan.tdx.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA02386; Sun, 24 May 1998 21:38:21 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) Message-ID: <3568853D.FBA3D6E0@tdx.co.uk> Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 21:38:21 +0100 From: Karl Pielorz Organization: TDX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Edwin Culp CC: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Quickcam-VC References: <356870B5.450BD391@ver1.telmex.net.mx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Edwin Culp wrote: > Has anyone been able to get Quickcam-VC to work? It doesn't seem > to be compatible with color quickcam. > > Thanks > > ed Hi I remember seeing someone comment a while ago - that the quickcam driver for FreeBSD only works with mono - I seem to remember if you try to use a color cam with it, it crashes :-( Regards, Karl Pielorz To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun May 24 14:43:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA17490 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Sun, 24 May 1998 14:43:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from frmug.org (frmug-gw.frmug.org [193.56.58.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA17469 for ; Sun, 24 May 1998 14:43:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roberto@keltia.freenix.fr) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by frmug.org (8.9.0.Beta7/frmug-2.3/nospam) with UUCP id XAA10336 for freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 24 May 1998 23:43:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from roberto@keltia.freenix.fr) Received: (from roberto@localhost) by keltia.freenix.fr (8.9.0.Beta4/keltia-2.14/nospam) id VAA04693 for freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 24 May 1998 21:47:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from roberto) Message-ID: <19980524214705.A4676@keltia.freenix.fr> Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 21:47:06 +0200 From: Ollivier Robert To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: dumping really big filesystems to Travan-4 streamer Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG References: <35683536.FA1837DF@tdx.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.92.3i In-Reply-To: ; from Dmitry Morozovsky on Sun, May 24, 1998 at 08:18:55PM +0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT ctm#4311 AMD-K6 MMX @ 225 MHz Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org According to Dmitry Morozovsky: > Well, at least this MAY be useful; however, it's not in my plans to > turn compression off forever; so, do you (or someone else?) know tape mode > or SCSI command to turn compression off and on? There is a mode page that includes compression parameters. On some drives, you can't change it by software (including my HP 35480A :-(). Try "scsi -f /dev/rsd0.ctl -m 0x10" to see the parameter and add "-P 3 -e" to edit the save value. -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! -=- roberto@keltia.freenix.fr FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 3.0-CURRENT #60: Fri May 15 21:04:22 CEST 1998 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun May 24 16:49:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA05012 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Sun, 24 May 1998 16:49:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mailhost.xciv.org (exim@vantage.xciv.org [193.128.6.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA04990 for ; Sun, 24 May 1998 16:48:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from paul@xciv.org) Received: from vantage.xciv.org [193.128.6.138] (paul) by mailhost.xciv.org with esmtp (Exim 1.70 #1) id 0ydkVb-0000kV-00; Mon, 25 May 1998 00:48:55 +0100 To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Quickcam-VC Organization: XCIV, London UK Reply-To: paul@xciv.org In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 24 May 1998 21:38:21 BST." <3568853D.FBA3D6E0@tdx.co.uk> Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 00:48:53 +0100 From: Paul Civati Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Karl Pielorz wrote: > > Has anyone been able to get Quickcam-VC to work? It doesn't seem > > to be compatible with color quickcam. The Quickcam-VC is quite a different beast to the parallel version AIUI. > Hi I remember seeing someone comment a while ago - that the quickcam driver > for FreeBSD only works with mono - I seem to remember if you try to use a > color cam with it, it crashes :-( For the Quickcam colour parallel model, cqcam works quite well: (I had to patch a system header! to make it build under 2.1.0-RELEASE, but should compile without hacking for later releases I think). -Paul- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun May 24 17:55:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA15773 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Sun, 24 May 1998 17:55:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.mexcom.net (ver2-95.uninet.net.mx [200.38.135.95]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA15765 for ; Sun, 24 May 1998 17:55:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eculp@ver1.telmex.net.mx) Received: from mc.mexcom.net (telmex@ppp-7.mexcom.net [206.103.65.199]) by ns.mexcom.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id TAA18873; Sun, 24 May 1998 19:50:42 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3568C1EF.4643FF3C@ver1.telmex.net.mx> Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 19:57:20 -0500 From: Edwin Culp Organization: Mexico Communicates, S.A. de C.V. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; Linux 2.0.18 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Smith CC: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Quickcam-VC References: <199805241840.LAA07559@antipodes.cdrom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Mike Smith wrote: > > > Has anyone been able to get Quickcam-VC to work? It doesn't seem > > to be compatible with color quickcam. > > Not AFAIK, it is indeed 100% incompatible. In fact, it's so > incompatible it causes the old qcam driver to explode. > > We had someone that was supposed to be working on it, but they appear > to have disappeared. 8( > I was afraid of that. thanks ed To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon May 25 03:08:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA14383 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Mon, 25 May 1998 03:08:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from penrose.isocor.ie (penrose.isocor.ie [194.106.155.117]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA14374 for ; Mon, 25 May 1998 03:08:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter.edwards@isocor.ie) Received: from isocor.ie (194.106.155.26) by penrose.isocor.ie; 25 May 1998 11:07:59 +0100 Message-ID: <356942B2.84CD3D8D@isocor.ie> Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 11:06:42 +0100 From: Peter Edwards Organization: ISOCOR X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Matthew N. Dodd" CC: FreeBSD Hardware Subject: Re: Seeking hardware recommendations References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Not all 2114x cards have MII PHYs. As mentioned before, some cards' physical layers implement media detection through the "General Purpose" register bits. And yes, getting it to work for all cases is, to say the very least, "Problematic". (Now _theres_ an understatement!). A generic MII interface is a good idea though... Cheers, Peter Matthew N. Dodd wrote: > > On Fri, 22 May 1998, Tom wrote: > > The DEC chipsets are not that well supported. The media detection is > > problematic. There are many variances from model to model (at least a > > half a dozen different chipset versions). Ugh... > > The failure to auto detect is caused by lack of specific support for PHY > specific detection routines. > > NetBSD appears to be taking steps to deal with this by creating PHY > specific 'drivers' that attach to an MII 'bus'. > > This moves MII code out of the individual driver and potentially reduces > code duplication (in the case where several cards share a number of PHYs) > > I've spoken with Bill Paul about this and while we both agreed that this > would be a good thing, neither he or I have the time to do the work. > (He's got more interesting (for some value of) projects and I'm stuck in > the dark ages without any ethernet devices that support MII PHYs (mostly > due to my lack of PCI based systems at home.)) > > As a large number of available PHYs on the market (TI, National Semi, > Level One, PLX etc.) have full datasheets available doing the MII specific > code should be somewhat straight-forward. > > Check out sys/dev/mii for NetBSD's code. > > /* > Matthew N. Dodd | A memory retaining a love you had for life > winter@jurai.net | As cruel as it seems nothing ever seems to > http://www.jurai.net/~winter | go right - FLA M 3.1:53 > */ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue May 26 06:56:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA27353 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Tue, 26 May 1998 06:56:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from polaris.we.lc.ehu.es (polaris.we.lc.ehu.es [158.227.6.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA27343 for ; Tue, 26 May 1998 06:56:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jose@we.lc.ehu.es) Received: from we.lc.ehu.es by polaris.we.lc.ehu.es (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id PAA03906; Tue, 26 May 1998 15:56:26 +0200 Message-ID: <356ACA0A.2298EFF@we.lc.ehu.es> Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 15:56:26 +0200 From: "Jose M. Alcaide" Organization: Universidad del País Vasco - Dept. Electricidad y Electrónica X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.6-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: problems with Iwill PIILS motherboard References: <355C4FA9.F3012FF3@we.lc.ehu.es> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have just purchased a new system for running FreeBSD. It is based on the Iwill PIILS motherboard, which uses the 440LX chipset and includes an Adaptec 7880 SCSI controller. I'm running FreeBSD-stable now, but I have detected two problems: First, the serial ports are not detected. I know that this problem also happens with other Iwill MBs and some Compaqs. I have found that two tests made by the sio driver fail (tests numbered 5 and 8). If I disable both tests, the serial ports are detected and work fine. However, I would like to know if someone is working on a patch for this problem. If there isn't any known solution, a new kernel config option (SIO_PROBLEM, for example) would be very useful. The second problem is related to SCSI. When the AHC driver tries to read the 7880's SEEPROM, the operation fails with a "cheksum error". I'm afraid that the 7880 chip on my PIILS motherboard is different (perhaps another version?): for example, I cannot choose the termination type using the Adaptec SCSI BIOS ("High ON/Low ON", "High ON/Low Off"...); instead, I can only select "Enable" or "Disable". However, the "cheksum error" trying to read the 7880's SEEPROM does not prevent the AHC driver from working properly. Until now, I can access to my SCSI disk and CD-ROM without any problem. These are the codes on the chip surface: AIC7880P AQWA 750 722511 BF3671.1 If the 7880 SCSI controller on my PIILS motherboard is a new version, or it has any kind of difference, I'm ready to make any tests on my system; however, in this case I will need some help from the person(s) responsible of the AHC driver. Cheers, -- JM ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Jose M. Alcaide | mailto:jose@we.lc.ehu.es Universidad del Pais Vasco | http://www.we.lc.ehu.es/~jose Dpto. de Electricidad y Electronica | Facultad de Ciencias - Campus de Lejona | Tel.: +34-944647700 x2624 48940 Lejona (Vizcaya) - SPAIN | Fax: +34-944858139 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- "Go ahead... make my day." - H. Callahan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue May 26 11:57:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA27819 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Tue, 26 May 1998 11:57:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from george.arc.nasa.gov (george.arc.nasa.gov [128.102.194.142]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA27465 for ; Tue, 26 May 1998 11:56:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lamaster@george.arc.nasa.gov) Received: from localhost (lamaster@localhost) by george.arc.nasa.gov (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA12572 for ; Tue, 26 May 1998 11:55:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 11:55:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Hugh LaMaster To: FreeBSD Hardware Subject: Re: Seeking hardware recommendations In-Reply-To: <356942B2.84CD3D8D@isocor.ie> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 25 May 1998, Peter Edwards wrote: > Not all 2114x cards have MII PHYs. As mentioned before, some cards' physical > layers implement media detection through the "General Purpose" register bits. > And yes, getting it to work for all cases is, to say the very least, > "Problematic". (Now _theres_ an understatement!). OK. I won't concede 10-15% CPU warrants an "Ugh!". Maybe "1/2 Ugh". Although it is an unnecessary overhead, you have to consider the entire range of optimizations: see multicast below. But I will concede that this problem (lack of standardized media auto-detect) does get an "Ugh". I've heard bits and pieces before, but, this thread represents the first general statement of the problem that I have seen. > Matthew N. Dodd wrote: > > > > On Fri, 22 May 1998, Tom wrote: > > > The DEC chipsets are not that well supported. The media detection is > > > problematic. There are many variances from model to model (at least a > > > half a dozen different chipset versions). Ugh... > > > > The failure to auto detect is caused by lack of specific support for PHY > > specific detection routines. On the plus side, the 2114x sides do multicast better than most, and, vastly better than some cards. Multicast is an "Ugh" for a lot of other cards. I don't see why chipset makers can't get all these correct. -- Hugh LaMaster, M/S 233-21, ASCII Email: hlamaster@mail.arc.nasa.gov NASA Ames Research Center Or: lamaster@george.arc.nasa.gov Moffett Field, CA 94035-1000 No Junkmail: USC 18 section 2701 Phone: 650/604-1056 Disclaimer: Unofficial, personal *opinion*. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue May 26 13:35:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA15097 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Tue, 26 May 1998 13:35:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cerberus.partsnow.com (cerberus.partsnow.com [207.155.26.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA15000; Tue, 26 May 1998 13:35:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from don@partsnow.com) Received: (from bin@localhost) by cerberus.partsnow.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) id NAA07284; Tue, 26 May 1998 13:32:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: cerberus.partsnow.com: bin set sender to using -f Received: from wildeweb(192.168.100.10) by cerberus.partsnow.com via smap (V2.0) id xma007281; Tue, 26 May 98 13:32:26 -0700 Message-ID: <356B2730.CAADAF88@partsnow.com> Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 13:33:52 -0700 From: Don Wilde Organization: Soligen, Incorporated X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Justin T. Gibbs" , Mike Smith , freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RAID controller support Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Gentlemen - On looking thru the -hackers archives, the two of you seem most likely to have some advice. I'm buying a new server for a colocated web host and I'd like to buy one of the all-in-one boxes like the Dell 4100 or Micron Netframe. The Dell uses the AMI MegaRAID 434, the Micron uses Intel's new i960 RAID controller. My research from earlier posts is that AMI was not helpful. Is that still the case? Leasing becomes much simpler if it's just one box, although from a long-term perspective I'm better off to go with a Winchester Systems multi-host standalone SCSI-3 RAID box and some smaller servers like Dell 2200's. -- oooOOO O O O o * * * * * * o ___ _________ _________ ________ _________ _________ ___==_ V_=_=_DW ===--- Don Wilde [don@PartsNow.com] [http://www.PartsNow.com ] /oo0000oo-oo--oo-ooo---ooo-ooo---ooo-ooo--ooo-ooo---ooo-ooo---ooo-oo--oo  To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue May 26 13:56:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA18841 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Tue, 26 May 1998 13:56:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA18815 for ; Tue, 26 May 1998 13:56:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA00917; Tue, 26 May 1998 12:51:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199805261951.MAA00917@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: "Jose M. Alcaide" cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: problems with Iwill PIILS motherboard In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 26 May 1998 15:56:26 +0200." <356ACA0A.2298EFF@we.lc.ehu.es> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 12:51:47 -0700 From: Mike Smith Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id NAA18818 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I have just purchased a new system for running FreeBSD. It is > based on the Iwill PIILS motherboard, which uses the 440LX > chipset and includes an Adaptec 7880 SCSI controller. > I'm running FreeBSD-stable now, but I have detected two problems: > > First, the serial ports are not detected. I know that this problem > also happens with other Iwill MBs and some Compaqs. I have found > that two tests made by the sio driver fail (tests numbered 5 and 8). > If I disable both tests, the serial ports are detected and work > fine. However, I would like to know if someone is working on > a patch for this problem. If there isn't any known solution, a > new kernel config option (SIO_PROBLEM, for example) would be > very useful. The problem is that the "solution" varies. On some systems, ignoring the probe failures does not result in working ports. We do not understand the mechanism of the failure, so it's not possible to work around it. Bruce Evans (bde@freebsd.org) is the person to talk to about this. If you're able to investigate the matter further, it might be helpful. > "Enable" or "Disable". However, the "cheksum error" trying to read > the 7880's SEEPROM does not prevent the AHC driver from working > properly. Until now, I can access to my SCSI disk and CD-ROM without > any problem. > > These are the codes on the chip surface: > > AIC7880P > AQWA 750 > 722511 > BF3671.1 > > If the 7880 SCSI controller on my PIILS motherboard is a new > version, or it has any kind of difference, I'm ready to make > any tests on my system; however, in this case I will need some > help from the person(s) responsible of the AHC driver. The EEPROM is read/written by the firmware, not the chip. It is possible that they are using a new checksum algorithmm, or that the firmware is buggy. You may wish to investigate the algorithm and results to verify this. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue May 26 15:14:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA03436 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Tue, 26 May 1998 15:14:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from tidal.oneway.com (tidal.oneway.com [205.177.9.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA03085; Tue, 26 May 1998 15:13:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jay@oneway.com) Received: from localhost (jay@localhost) by tidal.oneway.com (8.8.5/8.8.3) with SMTP id SAA06534; Tue, 26 May 1998 18:23:55 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 18:23:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Jay To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: T1 CSU cards Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Good afternoon, I am currently working on a project that requires me to place a T1 into a FreeBSD box. I have been through the archives and have seen T1-serial cards without CSU.. Can anyone point me in the direction of T1 cards with integrated CSU for FreeBSD? Does such an animal exist? Thanks, Jay To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue May 26 15:28:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA06927 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Tue, 26 May 1998 15:28:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pluto.plutotech.com (mail.plutotech.com [206.168.67.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA06841; Tue, 26 May 1998 15:28:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gibbs@plutotech.com) Received: from narnia.plutotech.com (narnia.plutotech.com [206.168.67.130]) by pluto.plutotech.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA29420; Tue, 26 May 1998 16:27:58 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199805262227.QAA29420@pluto.plutotech.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: Don Wilde cc: "Justin T. Gibbs" , Mike Smith , freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RAID controller support In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 26 May 1998 13:33:52 PDT." <356B2730.CAADAF88@partsnow.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 16:23:50 -0600 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Gentlemen - > On looking thru the -hackers archives, the two of you seem most likely >to have some advice. I'm buying a new server for a colocated web host >and I'd like to buy one of the all-in-one boxes like the Dell 4100 or >Micron Netframe. The Dell uses the AMI MegaRAID 434, the Micron uses >Intel's new i960 RAID controller. My research from earlier posts is that >AMI was not helpful. Is that still the case? Leasing becomes much >simpler if it's just one box, although from a long-term perspective I'm >better off to go with a Winchester Systems multi-host standalone SCSI-3 >RAID box and some smaller servers like Dell 2200's. The only internal RAID solution for FreeBSD at this time is the DPT card family. Other adapters could be supported, but that would probably require documentation and money for a contractor. -- Justin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue May 26 17:12:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA26905 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Tue, 26 May 1998 17:12:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [139.130.136.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA26771 for ; Tue, 26 May 1998 17:12:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id JAA20098; Wed, 27 May 1998 09:42:16 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Message-ID: <19980527094215.V24133@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 09:42:15 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: "Jose M. Alcaide" , freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: problems with Iwill PIILS motherboard References: <355C4FA9.F3012FF3@we.lc.ehu.es> <356ACA0A.2298EFF@we.lc.ehu.es> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <356ACA0A.2298EFF@we.lc.ehu.es>; from Jose M. Alcaide on Tue, May 26, 1998 at 03:56:26PM +0200 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 26 May 1998 at 15:56:26 +0200, Jose M. Alcaide wrote: > I have just purchased a new system for running FreeBSD. It is > based on the Iwill PIILS motherboard, which uses the 440LX > chipset and includes an Adaptec 7880 SCSI controller. > I'm running FreeBSD-stable now, but I have detected two problems: > > First, the serial ports are not detected. I know that this problem > also happens with other Iwill MBs and some Compaqs. I have found > that two tests made by the sio driver fail (tests numbered 5 and 8). > If I disable both tests, the serial ports are detected and work > fine. However, I would like to know if someone is working on > a patch for this problem. If there isn't any known solution, a > new kernel config option (SIO_PROBLEM, for example) would be > very useful. Interesting that you could get it to work by disabling the tests. I couldn't with mine. Anyway, a patch is available. Collect it at http://www.lemis.com/serial-port-patch.html. > The second problem is related to SCSI. When the AHC driver > tries to read the 7880's SEEPROM, the operation fails with > a "cheksum error". I'm afraid that the 7880 chip on my PIILS > motherboard is different (perhaps another version?): for example, > I cannot choose the termination type using the Adaptec SCSI BIOS > ("High ON/Low ON", "High ON/Low Off"...); instead, I can only select > "Enable" or "Disable". However, the "cheksum error" trying to read > the 7880's SEEPROM does not prevent the AHC driver from working > properly. Until now, I can access to my SCSI disk and CD-ROM without > any problem. > > These are the codes on the chip surface: > > AIC7880P > AQWA 750 > 722511 > BF3671.1 > > If the 7880 SCSI controller on my PIILS motherboard is a new > version, or it has any kind of difference, I'm ready to make > any tests on my system; however, in this case I will need some > help from the person(s) responsible of the AHC driver. This is for the SCSI people to answer. I don't know if they monitor this mailing list. If you don't get an answer in a day or two, try sending this information to FreeBSD-scsi. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue May 26 19:56:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA25270 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Tue, 26 May 1998 19:56:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.15.68.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA25238 for ; Tue, 26 May 1998 19:56:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bde@godzilla.zeta.org.au) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA18228; Wed, 27 May 1998 12:56:33 +1000 Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 12:56:33 +1000 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199805270256.MAA18228@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, jose@we.lc.ehu.es Subject: Re: problems with Iwill PIILS motherboard Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >First, the serial ports are not detected. I know that this problem >also happens with other Iwill MBs and some Compaqs. I have found >that two tests made by the sio driver fail (tests numbered 5 and 8). >If I disable both tests, the serial ports are detected and work >fine. However, I would like to know if someone is working on >a patch for this problem. If there isn't any known solution, a >new kernel config option (SIO_PROBLEM, for example) would be >very useful. Ignoring the results of the failing tests is the best known workaround. Disabling individual tests in sioprobe is wrong in general because some of the tests has side effects, but this isn't a problem for tests 5 and 8. Test 3 may also fail if the system is rebooted in a certain state (e.g., the state for tests 5 and 8). After the probe fails on IWill motherboards, it is normal for leftover interrupts to cause warnings like "sio0: 64 events for device with no tp". These just mean that the hardware is weird - interrupts didn't go away when they were programmed to. No fix is known. One theory is that the problem is related to the 'serialized IRQ protocol' that the ACER UART claims to support. It seems to have more to do with IRQs than UARTs. The sio probe is probably the only thing in FreeBSD that is affected because it is the only thing that uses old arcane features of the interrupt controller. Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue May 26 20:15:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA00808 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Tue, 26 May 1998 20:15:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from whizzo.transsys.com (whizzo.TransSys.COM [144.202.42.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA00780; Tue, 26 May 1998 20:15:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from louie@whizzo.transsys.com) Received: from whizzo.transsys.com (localhost.transsys.com [127.0.0.1]) by whizzo.transsys.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA12627; Tue, 26 May 1998 23:06:24 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199805270306.XAA12627@whizzo.transsys.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: Jay cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Louis A. Mamakos" Subject: Re: T1 CSU cards References: In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 26 May 1998 18:23:55 EDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 23:06:23 -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Good afternoon, > > I am currently working on a project that requires me to place a T1 > into a FreeBSD box. I have been through the archives and have seen > T1-serial cards without CSU.. Can anyone point me in the direction of T1 > cards with integrated CSU for FreeBSD? Does such an animal exist? Just to be clear - there are perhaps three alternative hardware bits, and you've mentioned two. What's unclear is which two :-) 1. A high-speed serial card with a V.35 or EIA-530 DTE interface. This wants to be plugged into an external CSU/DSU or null modem which supplies clock and data (both Transmit and Receive). 2. A high-speed serial card with a built-in CSU/DSU. You plug a T-1 line right into it, perhaps connected to a smart-jack. The T-1 line goes out of the building to a local central office. If lightning gets too close to this sort of wire, then you get bit errors and then it's better. Or at least the hardware doesn't burst into flame. 3. A high-speed serial card with a built-in DSU. You plug a DSX-1 level line into it. This type of connection isn't "protected", and isn't connected to an outside-plant loop. If lightning gets too close to this sort of wire, then the hardware explodes. I think you were asking about a product that does #2 as compared to a #1. I've seen some CompactPCI boards that do this (only because I've been looking at CompactPCI hardware). I believe that SDL makes boards that do #2, and there are others too. louie To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue May 26 22:30:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA14933 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Tue, 26 May 1998 21:20:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from tidal.oneway.com (tidal.oneway.com [205.177.9.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA14434; Tue, 26 May 1998 21:18:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jay@oneway.com) Received: from localhost (jay@localhost) by tidal.oneway.com (8.8.5/8.8.3) with SMTP id AAA07073; Wed, 27 May 1998 00:27:46 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 00:27:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Jay Reply-To: Jay To: "Louis A. Mamakos" cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: T1+CSU/DSU card driver for FreeBSD (was: T1 CSU cards) In-Reply-To: <199805270306.XAA12627@whizzo.transsys.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > T1-serial cards without CSU.. Can anyone point me in the direction of T1 > > cards with integrated CSU for FreeBSD? Does such an animal exist? > > 2. A high-speed serial card with a built-in CSU/DSU. You plug a T-1 line > right into it, perhaps connected to a smart-jack. The T-1 line goes > out of the building to a local central office. If lightning gets too > close to this sort of wire, then you get bit errors and then it's better. > Or at least the hardware doesn't burst into flame. > I think you were asking about a product that does #2 as compared to a #1. Yes, That is what I am searching for. I looked at the SDL web site and it appears that they only support BSDI & Linux on the UNIX side. Do you know if they have FreeBSD support? Also: I talked with a company called Sangoma (www.sangoma.com) this afternoon, they have a T1 product with integrated csu/dsu which is relatively inexpensive (about $850 US). Currently the only driver software for their cards is for NT, Linux and SCO. HOWEVER: They are willing to do a port of their driver software to FreeBSD, if people are interested and tell them so. I've already cast my vote with them... if this is something you are interested in as well, please let them know. I spoke with Gideon Hack this afternoon, his email is ghack@sangoma.com. If anyone knows anything I should know about these cards or sangoma, please let me know. If not, I'm going to lean on the higher-ups here to help me with getting Sangoma to do the driver port, since the project I am currently working on may require us to purchase some quantity of them. If this is something you are interested in, please drop Gideon a line. Every email they get will push it a little higher on their priority list. Thanks, Jay K. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed May 27 02:34:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA14881 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Wed, 27 May 1998 02:34:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from polaris.we.lc.ehu.es (polaris.we.lc.ehu.es [158.227.6.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA13125 for ; Wed, 27 May 1998 02:29:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jose@we.lc.ehu.es) Received: from we.lc.ehu.es by polaris.we.lc.ehu.es (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA05612; Wed, 27 May 1998 11:27:52 +0200 Message-ID: <356BDC98.2915B959@we.lc.ehu.es> Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 11:27:52 +0200 From: "Jose M. Alcaide" Organization: Universidad del País Vasco - Dept. Electricidad y Electrónica X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.6-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bruce Evans CC: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: problems with Iwill PIILS motherboard References: <199805270256.MAA18228@godzilla.zeta.org.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Bruce Evans wrote: > > Ignoring the results of the failing tests is the best known workaround. > Disabling individual tests in sioprobe is wrong in general because some of > the tests has side effects, but this isn't a problem for tests 5 and 8. > Test 3 may also fail if the system is rebooted in a certain state (e.g., > the state for tests 5 and 8). You're right. Actually, I have not disabled the tests; I modified slightly the sio.c code to ignore the results, as you say. > > After the probe fails on IWill motherboards, it is normal for leftover > interrupts to cause warnings like "sio0: 64 events for device with no tp". > These just mean that the hardware is weird - interrupts didn't go away > when they were programmed to. No fix is known. One theory is that the > problem is related to the 'serialized IRQ protocol' that the ACER UART > claims to support. It seems to have more to do with IRQs than UARTs. > The sio probe is probably the only thing in FreeBSD that is affected > because it is the only thing that uses old arcane features of the > interrupt controller. You're right again. I see that messages: "sio[01]: 65 events for device with no tp" (not 64!). I don't know which kind of UART is used by the PIILS motherboard; the docs only say "16550 compatible". It's evident that it's not fully compatible. I'm ready to make all type of test on my system. Unfortunately, I have not fiddled with PC hardware for years, and I don't remember the technical details about the UART and the interrupt controller. If you have any idea, tell me and I will try to test it on my system. Thanks, -- JM ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Jose M. Alcaide | mailto:jose@we.lc.ehu.es Universidad del Pais Vasco | http://www.we.lc.ehu.es/~jose Dpto. de Electricidad y Electronica | Facultad de Ciencias - Campus de Lejona | Tel.: +34-944647700 x2624 48940 Lejona (Vizcaya) - SPAIN | Fax: +34-944858139 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- "Go ahead... make my day." - H. Callahan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed May 27 13:29:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA21817 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Wed, 27 May 1998 13:29:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from red.juniper.net (red.juniper.net [208.197.169.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA21758; Wed, 27 May 1998 13:29:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tli@juniper.net) Received: from chimp.juniper.net (chimp.juniper.net [208.197.169.196]) by red.juniper.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA11836; Wed, 27 May 1998 13:27:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tli@localhost) by chimp.juniper.net (8.7.6/8.7.3) id NAA02538; Wed, 27 May 1998 13:27:56 -0700 (PDT) To: Jay cc: "Louis A. Mamakos" , freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: T1+CSU/DSU card driver for FreeBSD (was: T1 CSU cards) References: <199805270306.XAA12627@whizzo.transsys.com> From: Tony Li Date: 27 May 1998 13:27:56 -0700 In-Reply-To: jay@oneway.com's message of 27 May 98 04:27:46 GMT Message-ID: <82zpg34fxv.fsf@chimp.juniper.net> Lines: 10 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org jay@oneway.com (Jay) writes: > Yes, That is what I am searching for. I looked at the SDL web site > and it appears that they only support BSDI & Linux on the UNIX side. Do > you know if they have FreeBSD support? Yes. Tony To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed May 27 15:22:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA15653 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Wed, 27 May 1998 15:22:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from amber.ecom.net (ns1.ecom.net [207.155.73.10] (may be forged)) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA15518; Wed, 27 May 1998 15:22:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from randyk@ccsales.com) Received: from ntrkcasa (b218.ecom.net [207.13.225.218]) by amber.ecom.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA05320; Wed, 27 May 1998 15:21:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from randyk@ccsales.com) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980527151851.0378e3e0@ccsales.com> X-Sender: randyk@ccsales.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 15:18:51 -0700 To: Jay , "Louis A. Mamakos" From: "Randy A. Katz" Subject: Re: T1+CSU/DSU card driver for FreeBSD (was: T1 CSU cards) Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: References: <199805270306.XAA12627@whizzo.transsys.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've been using the dual T1 PCI card from http://www.etinc.com They have drivers for Linux and FreeBSD and work great. I have implemented them on PPP, Frame Relay and HDLC connections. Thanx, Randy Katz At 12:27 AM 5/27/98 -0400, Jay wrote: >> > T1-serial cards without CSU.. Can anyone point me in the direction of T1 >> > cards with integrated CSU for FreeBSD? Does such an animal exist? >> >> 2. A high-speed serial card with a built-in CSU/DSU. You plug a T-1 line >> right into it, perhaps connected to a smart-jack. The T-1 line goes >> out of the building to a local central office. If lightning gets too >> close to this sort of wire, then you get bit errors and then it's better. >> Or at least the hardware doesn't burst into flame. >> I think you were asking about a product that does #2 as compared to a #1. > Yes, That is what I am searching for. I looked at the SDL web site >and it appears that they only support BSDI & Linux on the UNIX side. Do >you know if they have FreeBSD support? > >Also: > > I talked with a company called Sangoma (www.sangoma.com) this >afternoon, they have a T1 product with integrated csu/dsu which is >relatively inexpensive (about $850 US). Currently the only driver >software for their cards is for NT, Linux and SCO. > >HOWEVER: They are willing to do a port of their driver software to >FreeBSD, if people are interested and tell them so. I've already cast my >vote with them... if this is something you are interested in as well, >please let them know. I spoke with Gideon Hack this afternoon, his email >is ghack@sangoma.com. > If anyone knows anything I should know about these cards or sangoma, >please let me know. If not, I'm going to lean on the higher-ups here to >help me with getting Sangoma to do the driver port, since the project I am >currently working on may require us to purchase some quantity of them. > >If this is something you are interested in, please drop Gideon a line. >Every email they get will push it a little higher on their priority list. > >Thanks, > >Jay K. > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed May 27 18:34:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA25348 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Wed, 27 May 1998 18:23:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gate.gateway.net.hk (qmailr@home.gateway.net.hk [202.76.19.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA25277 for ; Wed, 27 May 1998 18:22:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmf@gate.gateway.net.hk) Received: (qmail 26461 invoked by uid 653); 28 May 1998 01:22:42 -0000 Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 09:22:42 +0800 (CST) From: Bo Fussing To: Tony Li cc: Jay , "Louis A. Mamakos" , freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: T1+CSU/DSU card driver for FreeBSD (was: T1 CSU cards) In-Reply-To: <82zpg34fxv.fsf@chimp.juniper.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Tony and Jay, On 27 May 1998, Tony Li wrote: > jay@oneway.com (Jay) writes: > > > Yes, That is what I am searching for. I looked at the SDL web site > > and it appears that they only support BSDI & Linux on the UNIX side. Do > > you know if they have FreeBSD support? > > > Yes. There is a driver written by John Hay for the SDL boards. However the drivers do not appear to support boards with the integrated CSU/DSU. Take a look at the man page for sr(4) . FWIW we run some standard SDL RISCom/2 boards under 2.2.6 with no problems. Regards, Bo F To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu May 28 00:12:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA17061 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Thu, 28 May 1998 00:12:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from marlin.camtech.net.au (marlin.camtech.net.au [203.5.73.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA17040 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 00:12:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from annmarie@afct.org.au) Received: from afct.org.au ([202.20.75.10]) by marlin.camtech.net.au (8.8.5/8.8.2) with ESMTP id QAA26113 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 16:39:14 +0930 (CST) Received: from afct.org.au (travis.bass.net.au [202.20.75.5]) by afct.org.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA07046 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 16:51:38 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: <356D0DD5.D9942996@afct.org.au> Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 16:40:13 +0930 From: AnnMarie Scott Organization: Adelaide Festival Centre Trust (Computing Services) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Enabling AUI port on lance ethernet card Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi folks, I have here an SVEC PCI combo ethernet card that I want to use the AUI port on, rather than the 10baseT/2 (long story :-). 10baseT and 2 works fine under the lnc driver on 2.2.6-release, but the lnc doesn't seem to support the ifconfig media options, nor the link[1-2]. I've tried setting the card manually to the AUI port using the supplied software, and the setting seems to have stayed in the EEPROM - but it just doesn't look like it's being used. Card reports itself as a NE2100 (C-LANCE) and the error being reported is "Device timeout -- Resetting". Has anyone got any suggestions on how to deal with this particular beast? (Suggestions that I should get a "real" network to /dev/null :-) AnnMarie -- AnnMarie Scott | http://www.frisbee.net.au/~annmarie/ Unix Systems Manager | mailto:annmarie@afct.org.au BASS South Australia | http://www.bass.sa.com.au/ Adelaide Festival Centre | GPO Box 1269, Adelaide SA 5001, Australia To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu May 28 01:43:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA02274 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Thu, 28 May 1998 01:43:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from asteroid.svib.ru (root@asteroid.svib.ru [195.151.166.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA02246 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 01:43:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tarkhil@asteroid.svib.ru) Received: from minas-tirith.pol.ru (shuttle.svib.ru [195.151.166.144]) by asteroid.svib.ru (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA08882 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 12:43:25 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from tarkhil@asteroid.svib.ru) Received: from minas-tirith.pol.ru (minas-tirith.pol.ru [127.0.0.1]) by minas-tirith.pol.ru (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA19852 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 12:43:59 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from tarkhil@minas-tirith.pol.ru) Message-Id: <199805280843.MAA19852@minas-tirith.pol.ru> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: tarkhil@asteroid.svib.ru Subject: On IWill and sio: solution? X-URL: http://freebsd.svib.ru Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 12:43:57 +0400 From: Alex Povolotsky Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello! Maybe it will be wise to report fails for test 5 and 8 as warinigs, not errors? Alex. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu May 28 03:24:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA17401 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Thu, 28 May 1998 03:24:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from polaris.we.lc.ehu.es (polaris.we.lc.ehu.es [158.227.6.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA17359 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 03:24:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jose@we.lc.ehu.es) Received: from we.lc.ehu.es by polaris.we.lc.ehu.es (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA09060; Thu, 28 May 1998 12:20:49 +0200 Message-ID: <356D3A81.E646339B@we.lc.ehu.es> Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 12:20:49 +0200 From: "Jose M. Alcaide" Organization: Universidad del País Vasco - Dept. Electricidad y Electrónica X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.6-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tarkhil@asteroid.svib.ru CC: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: On IWill and sio: solution? References: <199805280843.MAA19852@minas-tirith.pol.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Alex Povolotsky wrote: > > Maybe it will be wise to report fails for test 5 and 8 as warinigs, not errors? > IMHO, a new kernel config option is the best solution for now. This option (IWILL_SIO_PROBLEM, for example), could be used in i386/isa/sio.c for ignoring the tests 5 and 8. In this way, there wouldn't be any need to edit sio.c. -- JM ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Jose M. Alcaide | mailto:jose@we.lc.ehu.es Universidad del Pais Vasco | http://www.we.lc.ehu.es/~jose Dpto. de Electricidad y Electronica | Facultad de Ciencias - Campus de Lejona | Tel.: +34-944647700 x2624 48940 Lejona (Vizcaya) - SPAIN | Fax: +34-944858139 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- "Go ahead... make my day." - H. Callahan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu May 28 03:44:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA19446 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Thu, 28 May 1998 03:44:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from newserv.urc.ac.ru (newserv.urc.ac.ru [193.233.85.48]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA19388 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 03:43:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joy@urc.ac.ru) Received: from urc.ac.ru (y.urc.ac.ru [193.233.85.37]) by newserv.urc.ac.ru (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA00963 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 16:42:37 +0600 (ESS) (envelope-from joy@urc.ac.ru) Message-ID: <356D3F9D.202BEB@urc.ac.ru> Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 16:42:37 +0600 From: Konstantin Chuguev Organization: South Ural Regional Center of FREEnet X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: EtherLink III LAN+33.6 Modem Global PC Card Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi All. Has anybody used that PC Card? It is 3C563D with a USR-compatible modem. Thanks. -- Konstantin V. Chuguev. System administrator of Southern http://www.urc.ac.ru/~joy/ Ural Regional Center of FREEnet, mailto:joy@urc.ac.ru Chelyabinsk, Russia. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu May 28 05:36:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA04310 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Thu, 28 May 1998 05:36:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mirage.nlink.com.br (mirage.nlink.com.br [200.238.120.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA04274; Thu, 28 May 1998 05:36:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luiz@nlink.com.br) Received: from mirage.nlink.com.br (mirage.nlink.com.br [200.238.120.3]) by mirage.nlink.com.br (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA01223; Thu, 28 May 1998 09:34:12 -0300 (EST) Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 09:34:12 -0300 (EST) From: Luiz de Barros To: isp@FreeBSD.ORG, support@etinc.com cc: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Cabling problems with etinc? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear ALL, We purchased an Etinc 5025PQ PCI quad syncronous E1/T1/Fractional card and are havind a few problems putting it to work with more than 64Kbps. We have a 256Kbps fractional E1 link provided by the TELCO via an HDSL Termination Unit and a G.703 to V.35 E1 converter. We would like to make a FreeBSD router, connecting our various networks and holding our connection to internet. The whole setup works fine with a cisco on the other side and IBM, Cisco and Cyclades routers here at our ISP (Same CSU/DSU cable, connecting the V.35 cable with the V.35 DTE cable from the router ). Etinc keeps saying it is a clable problem, CSU/DSU problem, but how does it work with any router? I configured etinc port to PPP, HDLC, internal, external clock, changed ifconfig parameters according to the manual and i am not being able to put the link up and IP packets going from one side to the other at 256Kbps. I purchased etinc because of good recomendations here on the list but as i could see, the support from etinc is not as good as it should be. Did anybody already experienced any similar situation? Do i need to change etinc's cable? Does anybody know of any other card that can work in this situation? I have heard of many other choices of Sync cards and maybe next time i will use another card, that can give me support to work with more than 64Kbps. I used to recomend etinc to my friends because of its support to FreeBSD, a Robust system with full support from the developers, etc but now i am quite disappointed with etinc's support. Luiz To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu May 28 06:10:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA10224 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Thu, 28 May 1998 06:10:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from holly.csv.warwick.ac.uk (csubl@holly.csv.warwick.ac.uk [137.205.192.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA10212 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 06:10:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from csubl@csv.warwick.ac.uk) Received: (from csubl@localhost) by holly.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.8) id OAA02024 for hardware@freebsd.org; Thu, 28 May 1998 14:10:31 +0100 (BST) From: Mr M P Searle Message-Id: <199805281310.OAA02024@holly.csv.warwick.ac.uk> Subject: Adaptec U2W? To: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 14:10:30 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Is the Adaptec AIC 7890/AIC 3860 U2W SCSI supported? (in which release?) Is anyone using the ASUS P2B-S motherboard with this onboard SCSI? I don't mind if I can't get the full U2W speed yet, as right now I don't even have any UW drives. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu May 28 07:21:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA21044 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Thu, 28 May 1998 07:21:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mercury.Sun.COM (mercury.Sun.COM [192.9.25.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA21033 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 07:21:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Mailer-Daemon@East.Sun.COM) Received: from East.Sun.COM ([129.148.1.241]) by mercury.Sun.COM (SMI-8.6/mail.byaddr) with SMTP id HAA05606 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 07:21:14 -0700 Received: from suneast.East.Sun.COM by East.Sun.COM (SMI-8.6/SMI-5.3) id KAA28786; Thu, 28 May 1998 10:21:12 -0400 Received: from compound.east.sun.com by suneast.East.Sun.COM (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA24546; Thu, 28 May 1998 10:21:10 -0400 Received: (from alk@localhost) by compound.east.sun.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) id JAA02276; Thu, 28 May 1998 09:22:18 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 09:22:18 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199805281422.JAA02276@compound.east.sun.com> From: Tony Kimball MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Face: O9M"E%K;(f-Go/XDxL+pCxI5*gr[=FN@Y`cl1.Tn Reply-To: alk@pobox.com To: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Better luck with PPro 166 or 180 at 200 MHz? X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 20.3 "Vatican City" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm trying to decide whether to get a pair of 166 or 180 MHz PPro's. Which has a better probability of running at 200MHz, a pair of 166MHz 512k cache, or a pair of 180MHz 256k cache? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu May 28 07:36:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA22856 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Thu, 28 May 1998 07:36:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from narnia.plutotech.com (narnia.plutotech.com [206.168.67.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA22848 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 07:36:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gibbs@narnia.plutotech.com) Received: (from gibbs@localhost) by narnia.plutotech.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) id IAA27988; Thu, 28 May 1998 08:32:08 -0600 (MDT) Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 08:32:08 -0600 (MDT) From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Message-Id: <199805281432.IAA27988@narnia.plutotech.com> To: Mr M P Searle cc: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Adaptec U2W? Newsgroups: pluto.freebsd.hardware In-Reply-To: <199805281310.OAA02024@holly.csv.warwick.ac.uk> User-Agent: tin/pre-1.4-971204 (UNIX) (FreeBSD/3.0-CURRENT (i386)) Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In article <199805281310.OAA02024@holly.csv.warwick.ac.uk> you wrote: > Is the Adaptec AIC 7890/AIC 3860 U2W SCSI supported? (in which release?) > Is anyone using the ASUS P2B-S motherboard with this onboard SCSI? > I don't mind if I can't get the full U2W speed yet, as right now I > don't even have any UW drives. ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/cam/README -- Justin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu May 28 07:49:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA24180 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Thu, 28 May 1998 07:49:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from panzer.plutotech.com (ken@panzer.plutotech.com [206.168.67.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA24164 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 07:48:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ken@panzer.plutotech.com) Received: (from ken@localhost) by panzer.plutotech.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) id IAA11061; Thu, 28 May 1998 08:48:48 -0600 (MDT) From: "Kenneth D. Merry" Message-Id: <199805281448.IAA11061@panzer.plutotech.com> Subject: Re: Adaptec U2W? In-Reply-To: <199805281310.OAA02024@holly.csv.warwick.ac.uk> from Mr M P Searle at "May 28, 98 02:10:30 pm" To: csubl@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr M P Searle) Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 08:48:48 -0600 (MDT) Cc: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28s (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Mr M P Searle wrote... > Is the Adaptec AIC 7890/AIC 3860 U2W SCSI supported? (in which release?) > Is anyone using the ASUS P2B-S motherboard with this onboard SCSI? > I don't mind if I can't get the full U2W speed yet, as right now I > don't even have any UW drives. You have to use CAM, either under -current or -stable. See: ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.ORG/pub/FreeBSD/cam/README or ftp://ftp.kdm.org/pub/FreeBSD/cam/README Ken -- Kenneth Merry ken@plutotech.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu May 28 08:08:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA26396 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Thu, 28 May 1998 08:08:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from holly.csv.warwick.ac.uk (csubl@holly.csv.warwick.ac.uk [137.205.192.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA26326 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 08:07:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from csubl@csv.warwick.ac.uk) Received: (from csubl@localhost) by holly.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.8) id QAA03534; Thu, 28 May 1998 16:07:29 +0100 (BST) From: Mr M P Searle Message-Id: <199805281507.QAA03534@holly.csv.warwick.ac.uk> Subject: Re: Adaptec U2W? In-Reply-To: <199805281448.IAA11061@panzer.plutotech.com> from "Kenneth D. Merry" at "May 28, 98 08:48:48 am" To: ken@plutotech.com (Kenneth D. Merry) Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 16:07:29 +0100 (BST) Cc: csubl@csv.warwick.ac.uk, hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Mr M P Searle wrote... > > Is the Adaptec AIC 7890/AIC 3860 U2W SCSI supported? (in which release?) > > Is anyone using the ASUS P2B-S motherboard with this onboard SCSI? > > I don't mind if I can't get the full U2W speed yet, as right now I > > don't even have any UW drives. > > You have to use CAM, either under -current or -stable. See: > > ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.ORG/pub/FreeBSD/cam/README > or > ftp://ftp.kdm.org/pub/FreeBSD/cam/README > Looks good. It doesn't specifically mention the 3860 (I think this is some kind of extension chip to allow the 7890 to use narrow devices) - is this supported as part of the 7890? Has anyone used CAM with this motherboard? (or the similar P2B-LS etc) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu May 28 08:15:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA27310 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Thu, 28 May 1998 08:15:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from etinc.com (et-gw.etinc.com [207.252.1.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA27276; Thu, 28 May 1998 08:15:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dennis@etinc.com) Received: from dbsys (dbsys.etinc.com [207.252.1.18]) by etinc.com (8.8.7/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA02507; Thu, 28 May 1998 11:25:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199805281525.LAA02507@etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@etinc.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 11:23:11 -0400 To: Luiz de Barros , isp@FreeBSD.ORG, support@etinc.com From: Dennis Subject: Re: Cabling problems with etinc? Cc: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 09:34 AM 5/28/98 -0300, Luiz de Barros wrote: >Dear ALL, > >We purchased an Etinc 5025PQ PCI quad syncronous E1/T1/Fractional card and >are havind a few problems putting it to work with more than 64Kbps. >We have a 256Kbps fractional E1 link provided by the TELCO via an HDSL >Termination Unit and a G.703 to V.35 E1 converter. You say "greater than 64kbs...does that imply that you have it working at lower speeds or on some other connection? If so, there is no difference for the higher speed...you should use EXACTLY the same settings. the board uses the same setting @ 64kbs and 2Mbs. > >We would like to make a FreeBSD router, connecting our various networks >and holding our connection to internet. > >The whole setup works fine with a cisco on the other side and IBM, Cisco >and Cyclades routers here at our ISP (Same CSU/DSU cable, connecting the >V.35 cable with the V.35 DTE cable from the router ). Etinc keeps saying >it is a clable problem, CSU/DSU problem, but how does it work with any >router? > >I configured etinc port to PPP, HDLC, internal, external clock, changed >ifconfig parameters according to the manual and i am not being able to put >the link up and IP packets going from one side to the other at 256Kbps. > >I purchased etinc because of good recomendations here on the list but as i >could see, the support from etinc is not as good as it should be. Did >anybody already experienced any similar situation? Do i need to change >etinc's cable? Does anybody know of any other card that can work in this >situation? > >I have heard of many other choices of Sync cards and maybe next time i >will use another card, that can give me support to work with more than >64Kbps. I used to recomend etinc to my friends because of its support to >FreeBSD, a Robust system with full support from the developers, etc but >now i am quite disappointed with etinc's support. > >Luiz > > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu May 28 08:29:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA29151 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Thu, 28 May 1998 08:29:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.mexcom.net (ver2-101.uninet.net.mx [200.38.135.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA29125; Thu, 28 May 1998 08:29:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eculp@ver1.telmex.net.mx) Received: from sunix (telmex@sunix.mexcom.net [206.103.64.3]) by ns.mexcom.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA23070; Thu, 28 May 1998 10:24:42 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <356D81FC.4DD7438A@ver1.telmex.net.mx> Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 10:25:48 -0500 From: Edwin Culp Organization: Mexico Communicates, S.C. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; Linux 2.0.14 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Luiz de Barros CC: isp@FreeBSD.ORG, support@etinc.com, hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Cabling problems with etinc? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Luiz de Barros wrote: > > Dear ALL, > > We purchased an Etinc 5025PQ PCI quad syncronous E1/T1/Fractional card and > are havind a few problems putting it to work with more than 64Kbps. > We have a 256Kbps fractional E1 link provided by the TELCO via an HDSL > Termination Unit and a G.703 to V.35 E1 converter. > > We would like to make a FreeBSD router, connecting our various networks > and holding our connection to internet. > > The whole setup works fine with a cisco on the other side and IBM, Cisco > and Cyclades routers here at our ISP (Same CSU/DSU cable, connecting the > V.35 cable with the V.35 DTE cable from the router ). Etinc keeps saying > it is a clable problem, CSU/DSU problem, but how does it work with any > router? Why would you want to connect your etinc card to/through your cisco? Isn't that defeating the purpose? What I would want, would be remove the cisco or if it were necessary for another connection use ethernet between it and my FreeBSD ROUTER. Maybe I'm on another channel, and if I am please desregard the question. ed P.D. I think the problem is cable incompatability. I think Dennis once made that observation on the list. > > I configured etinc port to PPP, HDLC, internal, external clock, changed > ifconfig parameters according to the manual and i am not being able to put > the link up and IP packets going from one side to the other at 256Kbps. > > I purchased etinc because of good recomendations here on the list but as i > could see, the support from etinc is not as good as it should be. Did > anybody already experienced any similar situation? Do i need to change > etinc's cable? Does anybody know of any other card that can work in this > situation? > > I have heard of many other choices of Sync cards and maybe next time i > will use another card, that can give me support to work with more than > 64Kbps. I used to recomend etinc to my friends because of its support to > FreeBSD, a Robust system with full support from the developers, etc but > now i am quite disappointed with etinc's support. > > Luiz > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu May 28 09:09:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA03511 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Thu, 28 May 1998 09:09:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from panzer.plutotech.com (ken@panzer.plutotech.com [206.168.67.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA03496 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 09:08:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ken@panzer.plutotech.com) Received: (from ken@localhost) by panzer.plutotech.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) id KAA11457; Thu, 28 May 1998 10:08:48 -0600 (MDT) From: "Kenneth D. Merry" Message-Id: <199805281608.KAA11457@panzer.plutotech.com> Subject: Re: Adaptec U2W? In-Reply-To: <199805281507.QAA03534@holly.csv.warwick.ac.uk> from Mr M P Searle at "May 28, 98 04:07:29 pm" To: csubl@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr M P Searle) Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 10:08:48 -0600 (MDT) Cc: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28s (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Mr M P Searle wrote... > > Mr M P Searle wrote... > > > Is the Adaptec AIC 7890/AIC 3860 U2W SCSI supported? (in which release?) > > > Is anyone using the ASUS P2B-S motherboard with this onboard SCSI? > > > I don't mind if I can't get the full U2W speed yet, as right now I > > > don't even have any UW drives. > > > > You have to use CAM, either under -current or -stable. See: > > > > ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.ORG/pub/FreeBSD/cam/README > > or > > ftp://ftp.kdm.org/pub/FreeBSD/cam/README > > > > Looks good. It doesn't specifically mention the 3860 (I think this is > some kind of extension chip to allow the 7890 to use narrow devices) - > is this supported as part of the 7890? The 3860 is a LVD/Single Ended converter. Yes, it's supported. > Has anyone used CAM with this motherboard? (or the similar P2B-LS etc) Dunno about that. Ken -- Kenneth Merry ken@plutotech.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu May 28 09:44:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA07411 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Thu, 28 May 1998 09:44:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA07363; Thu, 28 May 1998 09:43:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmb) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Message-Id: <199805281643.JAA07363@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: EtherLink III LAN+33.6 Modem Global PC Card In-Reply-To: <356D3F9D.202BEB@urc.ac.ru> from Konstantin Chuguev at "May 28, 98 04:42:37 pm" To: joy@urc.ac.ru (Konstantin Chuguev) Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 09:43:49 -0700 (PDT) Cc: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Konstantin Chuguev wrote: > Hi All. > > Has anybody used that PC Card? It is 3C563D with a USR-compatible > modem. i got some code for it that i am playing with in my copious spare time....dont know when i'll have it in a state that i can integrate into FreeBSD source, yet. jmb To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu May 28 10:14:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA11228 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Thu, 28 May 1998 10:14:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mirage.nlink.com.br (mirage.nlink.com.br [200.238.120.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA11201; Thu, 28 May 1998 10:14:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luiz@nlink.com.br) Received: from mirage.nlink.com.br (mirage.nlink.com.br [200.238.120.3]) by mirage.nlink.com.br (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA08365; Thu, 28 May 1998 14:11:11 -0300 (EST) Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 14:11:11 -0300 (EST) From: Luiz de Barros To: Edwin Culp cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG, support@etinc.com, hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Cabling problems with etinc? In-Reply-To: <356D81FC.4DD7438A@ver1.telmex.net.mx> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear Edwin and ALL, I think i was not very clear. We have now a pathrouter here and a Cisco 2509 router on the other side ( The backbone presence provider ). The connection is at 256Kbps via fractional E1. I would like to put one of the ports from etinc ( 0 or 1 ) connected to the CSU/DSU ( Converter ) and take out the cyclades router ( FreeBSD is quite better than a single router ). My CSU/DSU has a V.35 cable that works very fine with no problem if i connect it to a Cyclades, Cisco, IBM router but not with etinc ( putting etinc instead of the router ). I thought it could be a cable incompatibility but it seems quite strange, as all routers work with it. I tryed connecting RXclockA to TxclockA and TxclockB to RxclockB on etinc but it did not work as well. Why should the converter not work with etinc and work with a router? Luiz On Thu, 28 May 1998, Edwin Culp wrote: > Luiz de Barros wrote: > > > > Dear ALL, > > > > We purchased an Etinc 5025PQ PCI quad syncronous E1/T1/Fractional card and > > are havind a few problems putting it to work with more than 64Kbps. > > We have a 256Kbps fractional E1 link provided by the TELCO via an HDSL > > Termination Unit and a G.703 to V.35 E1 converter. > > > > We would like to make a FreeBSD router, connecting our various networks > > and holding our connection to internet. > > > > The whole setup works fine with a cisco on the other side and IBM, Cisco > > and Cyclades routers here at our ISP (Same CSU/DSU cable, connecting the > > V.35 cable with the V.35 DTE cable from the router ). Etinc keeps saying > > it is a clable problem, CSU/DSU problem, but how does it work with any > > router? > Why would you want to connect your etinc card to/through your cisco? > Isn't that defeating the purpose? What I would want, would be remove > the cisco or if it were necessary for another connection use ethernet > between it and my FreeBSD ROUTER. Maybe I'm on another channel, and > if I am please desregard the question. > > ed > > P.D. I think the problem is cable incompatability. I think Dennis once > made that observation on the list. > > > > I configured etinc port to PPP, HDLC, internal, external clock, changed > > ifconfig parameters according to the manual and i am not being able to put > > the link up and IP packets going from one side to the other at 256Kbps. > > > > I purchased etinc because of good recomendations here on the list but as i > > could see, the support from etinc is not as good as it should be. Did > > anybody already experienced any similar situation? Do i need to change > > etinc's cable? Does anybody know of any other card that can work in this > > situation? > > > > I have heard of many other choices of Sync cards and maybe next time i > > will use another card, that can give me support to work with more than > > 64Kbps. I used to recomend etinc to my friends because of its support to > > FreeBSD, a Robust system with full support from the developers, etc but > > now i am quite disappointed with etinc's support. > > > > Luiz > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu May 28 10:29:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA13118 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Thu, 28 May 1998 10:29:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mirage.nlink.com.br (mirage.nlink.com.br [200.238.120.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA12824; Thu, 28 May 1998 10:27:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luiz@nlink.com.br) Received: from mirage.nlink.com.br (mirage.nlink.com.br [200.238.120.3]) by mirage.nlink.com.br (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA08770; Thu, 28 May 1998 14:24:41 -0300 (EST) Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 14:24:41 -0300 (EST) From: Luiz de Barros To: Dennis cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG, support@etinc.com, hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Cabling problems with etinc? In-Reply-To: <199805281525.LAA02507@etinc.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have everything working ok at 64Kbps on other connection and a Cyclades connected to a Cisco on the other side at 256Kbps. I would like to connect Etinc instead of cyclades here and it does not work. Luiz On Thu, 28 May 1998, Dennis wrote: > At 09:34 AM 5/28/98 -0300, Luiz de Barros wrote: > >Dear ALL, > > > >We purchased an Etinc 5025PQ PCI quad syncronous E1/T1/Fractional card and > >are havind a few problems putting it to work with more than 64Kbps. > >We have a 256Kbps fractional E1 link provided by the TELCO via an HDSL > >Termination Unit and a G.703 to V.35 E1 converter. > > You say "greater than 64kbs...does that imply that you have it working at > lower > speeds or on some other connection? If so, there is no difference for the > higher > speed...you should use EXACTLY the same settings. the board uses the same > setting @ 64kbs and 2Mbs. > > > >We would like to make a FreeBSD router, connecting our various networks > >and holding our connection to internet. > > > >The whole setup works fine with a cisco on the other side and IBM, Cisco > >and Cyclades routers here at our ISP (Same CSU/DSU cable, connecting the > >V.35 cable with the V.35 DTE cable from the router ). Etinc keeps saying > >it is a clable problem, CSU/DSU problem, but how does it work with any > >router? > > > >I configured etinc port to PPP, HDLC, internal, external clock, changed > >ifconfig parameters according to the manual and i am not being able to put > >the link up and IP packets going from one side to the other at 256Kbps. > > > >I purchased etinc because of good recomendations here on the list but as i > >could see, the support from etinc is not as good as it should be. Did > >anybody already experienced any similar situation? Do i need to change > >etinc's cable? Does anybody know of any other card that can work in this > >situation? > > > >I have heard of many other choices of Sync cards and maybe next time i > >will use another card, that can give me support to work with more than > >64Kbps. I used to recomend etinc to my friends because of its support to > >FreeBSD, a Robust system with full support from the developers, etc but > >now i am quite disappointed with etinc's support. > > > >Luiz > > > > > > > > > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu May 28 11:53:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA27176 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Thu, 28 May 1998 11:53:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pobox.com ([208.141.230.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA27130 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 11:53:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alk@pobox.com) Received: (from alk@localhost) by pobox.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) id NAA03017; Thu, 28 May 1998 13:54:38 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 13:54:38 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199805281854.NAA03017@pobox.com> From: Tony Kimball MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Face: O9M"E%K;(f-Go/XDxL+pCxI5*gr[=FN@Y`cl1.Tn Reply-To: alk@pobox.com To: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: VP3 supports UDMA? X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 20.3 "Vatican City" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I want to buy a new K6-2, but in order to get 100MHz I/O, I would have to abandon Intel chipsets (and hence PIIX3) assuming that UDMA is supported only for PIIX3, this seems to indicate a dilemma: UDMA vs. 100MHz. Is this in fact the case? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu May 28 13:06:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA12973 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Thu, 28 May 1998 13:06:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA12508; Thu, 28 May 1998 13:05:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from julian@whistle.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by alpo.whistle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA00276; Thu, 28 May 1998 13:02:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from current1.whistle.com(207.76.205.22) via SMTP by alpo.whistle.com, id smtpd000274; Thu May 28 20:02:14 1998 Message-ID: <356DC2C3.794BDF32@whistle.com> Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 13:02:11 -0700 From: Julian Elischer Organization: Whistle Communications X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Luiz de Barros CC: Edwin Culp , isp@FreeBSD.ORG, support@etinc.com, hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Cabling problems with etinc? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Luiz de Barros wrote: > > Dear Edwin and ALL, > > I think i was not very clear. > We have now a pathrouter here and a Cisco 2509 router on the other side ( > The backbone presence provider ). The connection is at 256Kbps via > fractional E1. > I would like to put one of the ports from etinc ( 0 or 1 ) connected to > the CSU/DSU ( Converter ) and take out the cyclades router ( FreeBSD is > quite better than a single router ). > My CSU/DSU has a V.35 cable that works very fine with no problem if i > connect it to a Cyclades, Cisco, IBM router but not with etinc ( putting > etinc instead of the router ). > I thought it could be a cable incompatibility but it seems quite strange, > as all routers work with it. I tryed connecting RXclockA to TxclockA and > TxclockB to RxclockB on etinc but it did not work as well. Why should the > converter not work with etinc and work with a router? > > Luiz >From memory etinc used a slightly non standard pinout. to make an etinc cable work on a standard router: on the DB25 end you need to have the wire that goes to 11 go to 13 instead and the wire that goes to pin 17 go to 23 instead and the wir ethat goes to 9 should go to 17 obviously, reverse these to get a standard cable to work on an etinc card. At least that's what I have in my notes.. I once needed a DB25 to V35 cable and had an etinc card so I canibalised it's cable. I needed to make these changes (or something similar) to make it work on a router. so the answer is: Use the etinc cable on the etinc board and don't get it confused or mixed in with the other cables or you'll give yourself trouble. julian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu May 28 13:24:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA18142 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Thu, 28 May 1998 13:24:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA17957 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 13:24:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA01093; Thu, 28 May 1998 12:17:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199805281917.MAA01093@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: AnnMarie Scott cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Enabling AUI port on lance ethernet card In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 28 May 1998 16:40:13 +0930." <356D0DD5.D9942996@afct.org.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 12:17:57 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org G'day! > I have here an SVEC PCI combo ethernet card that I want to use the AUI > port on, rather than the 10baseT/2 (long story :-). 10baseT and 2 works > fine under the lnc driver on 2.2.6-release, but the lnc doesn't seem to > support the ifconfig media options, nor the link[1-2]. > > I've tried setting the card manually to the AUI port using the supplied > software, and the setting seems to have stayed in the EEPROM - but it > just doesn't look like it's being used. Card reports itself as a NE2100 > (C-LANCE) and the error being reported is "Device timeout -- Resetting". I had my head inside the lance driver a couple of weeks back; there doesn't appear to be support for the media selection on the PCNET parts. 8( You could try contacting Paul Richards (the driver author), as he was tinkering with it a little a couple of days back. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu May 28 13:52:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA23467 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Thu, 28 May 1998 13:52:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA23146 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 13:49:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA01211; Thu, 28 May 1998 12:43:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199805281943.MAA01211@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: "Jose M. Alcaide" cc: tarkhil@asteroid.svib.ru, hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: On IWill and sio: solution? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 28 May 1998 12:20:49 +0200." <356D3A81.E646339B@we.lc.ehu.es> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 12:43:24 -0700 From: Mike Smith Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id NAA23147 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Alex Povolotsky wrote: > > > > Maybe it will be wise to report fails for test 5 and 8 as warinigs, not errors? > > > > IMHO, a new kernel config option is the best solution for now. > This option (IWILL_SIO_PROBLEM, for example), could be used in > i386/isa/sio.c for ignoring the tests 5 and 8. In this way, > there wouldn't be any need to edit sio.c. You don't appear to be paying attention. Ignoring tests 5 and 8 does not "fix" the problem. It's a bandaid for *some* systems, which fails to take into account the mechanisms behind the actual problem. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu May 28 15:27:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA11362 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Thu, 28 May 1998 15:27:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [139.130.136.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA11328 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 15:26:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id HAA00356; Fri, 29 May 1998 07:56:51 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Message-ID: <19980529075650.Y25469@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 07:56:51 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: alk@pobox.com, hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: VP3 supports UDMA? References: <199805281854.NAA03017@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <199805281854.NAA03017@pobox.com>; from Tony Kimball on Thu, May 28, 1998 at 01:54:38PM -0500 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 28 May 1998 at 13:54:38 -0500, Tony Kimball wrote: > > I want to buy a new K6-2, but in order to get 100MHz I/O, > I would have to abandon Intel chipsets (and hence PIIX3) > assuming that UDMA is supported only for PIIX3, this seems > to indicate a dilemma: UDMA vs. 100MHz. Is this in fact > the case? No. I have a SiS motherboard with UDMA. I'm pretty sure that Aladdin (probably the #1 choice) also supports it. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu May 28 15:43:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA14578 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Thu, 28 May 1998 15:43:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from lucy.bedford.net (lucy.bedford.net [206.99.145.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA14555 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 15:43:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from listread@lucy.bedford.net) Received: (from listread@localhost) by lucy.bedford.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA04504; Thu, 28 May 1998 18:31:17 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from listread) Message-Id: <199805282231.SAA04504@lucy.bedford.net> Subject: Re: Better luck with PPro 166 or 180 at 200 MHz? In-Reply-To: <199805281422.JAA02276@compound.east.sun.com> from Tony Kimball at "May 28, 98 09:22:18 am" To: alk@pobox.com Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 18:31:17 -0400 (EDT) Cc: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-to: djv@bedford.net From: CyberPeasant X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Tony Kimball wrote: > > I'm trying to decide whether to get a pair of 166 or 180 MHz PPro's. > Which has a better probability of running at 200MHz, a pair of > 166MHz 512k cache, or a pair of 180MHz 256k cache? > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message > A pair of 200MHz running at 200MHz is your best bet :) (Sorry, couldn't resist.) Dave -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu May 28 15:59:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA18059 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Thu, 28 May 1998 15:59:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pobox.com ([208.141.230.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA18025 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 15:59:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alk@pobox.com) Received: (from alk@localhost) by pobox.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) id SAA03739; Thu, 28 May 1998 18:00:36 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 18:00:36 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199805282300.SAA03739@pobox.com> From: Tony Kimball MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Face: O9M"E%K;(f-Go/XDxL+pCxI5*gr[=FN@Y`cl1.Tn Reply-To: alk@pobox.com To: grog@lemis.com Cc: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: VP3 supports UDMA? References: <199805281854.NAA03017@pobox.com> <19980529075650.Y25469@freebie.lemis.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 20.3 "Vatican City" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Quoth Greg Lehey on Fri, 29 May: : No. I have a SiS motherboard with UDMA. I'm pretty sure that Aladdin : (probably the #1 choice) also supports it. To clarify my concern: While I understand that VP3 and SiS support UDMA, my concern is the FreeBSD does not support UDMA on anything but PIIX3, last time I heard. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu May 28 17:07:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA29373 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Thu, 28 May 1998 17:07:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA29237; Thu, 28 May 1998 17:06:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmb) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Message-Id: <199805290006.RAA29237@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Better luck with PPro 166 or 180 at 200 MHz? In-Reply-To: <199805282231.SAA04504@lucy.bedford.net> from CyberPeasant at "May 28, 98 06:31:17 pm" To: djv@bedford.net Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 17:06:44 -0700 (PDT) Cc: alk@pobox.com, hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org CyberPeasant wrote: > Tony Kimball wrote: > > > > I'm trying to decide whether to get a pair of 166 or 180 MHz PPro's. > > Which has a better probability of running at 200MHz, a pair of > > 166MHz 512k cache, or a pair of 180MHz 256k cache? > > > A pair of 200MHz running at 200MHz is your best bet :) > (Sorry, couldn't resist.) i would have guessed two PPro 166MHz 512kB cache overclocked. arent these chips supposed to be wonderful for overclocking. the doubled cache must be worth more than the 20% increase in clock rate. jmb To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu May 28 17:32:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA05066 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Thu, 28 May 1998 17:32:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fly.HiWAAY.net (root@fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA04876 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 17:31:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net) Received: from nospam.hiwaay.net (tnt1-216.HiWAAY.net [208.147.147.216]) by fly.HiWAAY.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA03195; Thu, 28 May 1998 19:31:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nospam.hiwaay.net (8.8.8/8.8.4) with ESMTP id TAA19560; Thu, 28 May 1998 19:31:24 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199805290031.TAA19560@nospam.hiwaay.net> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: alk@pobox.com cc: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG From: David Kelly Subject: Re: Better luck with PPro 166 or 180 at 200 MHz? In-reply-to: Message from Tony Kimball of "Thu, 28 May 1998 09:22:18 CDT." <199805281422.JAA02276@compound.east.sun.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 19:31:24 -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Tony Kimball writes: > > I'm trying to decide whether to get a pair of 166 or 180 MHz PPro's. > Which has a better probability of running at 200MHz, a pair of > 166MHz 512k cache, or a pair of 180MHz 256k cache? I am told the PPro-166/512k has a poor overclocking record. So I didn't overclock mine for a long time. Its been running at 200 MHz since last November: CPU: Pentium Pro (199.31-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x617 Stepping=7 Features=0xf9ff Might not hurt that I have a stout 300W PS, several fans, and the biggest heatsink/fan I could find. Ran it at 233MHz for a half hour before I decided if it could do that, 200 MHz should be safe. It failed to boot at 266. Hey! You never know. ;-) MB is an Asus P6NP5, the AT form factor. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu May 28 18:34:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA17043 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Thu, 28 May 1998 18:34:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from germanium.xtalwind.net (germanium.xtalwind.net [205.160.242.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA17024 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 18:34:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jack@germanium.xtalwind.net) Received: from localhost (jack@localhost) by germanium.xtalwind.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id VAA26854; Thu, 28 May 1998 21:34:00 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 21:34:00 -0400 (EDT) From: jack To: Tony Kimball cc: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Better luck with PPro 166 or 180 at 200 MHz? In-Reply-To: <199805281422.JAA02276@compound.east.sun.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 28 May 1998, Tony Kimball wrote: > I'm trying to decide whether to get a pair of 166 or 180 MHz PPro's. > Which has a better probability of running at 200MHz, a pair of > 166MHz 512k cache, or a pair of 180MHz 256k cache? Don't know about the 166, but I've got a 180 that's been running at 200, 24x7, for the past few months without any problems. YMMV. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jack O'Neill Systems Administrator / Systems Analyst jack@germanium.xtalwind.net Crystal Wind Communications, Inc. Finger jack@germanium.xtalwind.net for my PGP key. PGP Key fingerprint = F6 C4 E6 D4 2F 15 A7 67 FD 09 E9 3C 5F CC EB CD enriched, vcard, HTML messages > /dev/null Mail from netcom.com blocked until they stop relaying SPAM -------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri May 29 01:34:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA02908 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Fri, 29 May 1998 01:34:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from polaris.we.lc.ehu.es (polaris.we.lc.ehu.es [158.227.6.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA02822 for ; Fri, 29 May 1998 01:33:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jose@we.lc.ehu.es) Received: from we.lc.ehu.es by polaris.we.lc.ehu.es (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA12434; Fri, 29 May 1998 10:32:00 +0200 Message-ID: <356E7280.37A56F91@we.lc.ehu.es> Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 10:32:00 +0200 From: "Jose M. Alcaide" Organization: Universidad del País Vasco - Dept. Electricidad y Electrónica X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.6-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Smith CC: tarkhil@asteroid.svib.ru, hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: On IWill and sio: solution? References: <199805281943.MAA01211@dingo.cdrom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Mike Smith wrote: > > IMHO, a new kernel config option is the best solution for now. > > This option (IWILL_SIO_PROBLEM, for example), could be used in > > i386/isa/sio.c for ignoring the tests 5 and 8. In this way, > > there wouldn't be any need to edit sio.c. > > You don't appear to be paying attention. I'm paying attention. Sure! :-) > > Ignoring tests 5 and 8 does not "fix" the problem. It's a bandaid for > *some* systems, which fails to take into account the mechanisms behind > the actual problem. > Indeed, ignoring the tests is not a "solution", as you're saying. I'm not proposing a new kernel config option as a "solution". It's only an easy workaround for some __Iwill__ motherboards (and perhaps some Compaqs). After every update of the FreeBSD sources (using CVSup), the file sio.c is renewed. Then, before compiling a new kernel, patching sio.c is needed again, and again... If a definitive solution for this sio problem were discovered some time in the future, that kernel config option could be removed. -- JM ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Jose M. Alcaide | mailto:jose@we.lc.ehu.es Universidad del Pais Vasco | http://www.we.lc.ehu.es/~jose Dpto. de Electricidad y Electronica | Facultad de Ciencias - Campus de Lejona | Tel.: +34-944647700 x2624 48940 Lejona (Vizcaya) - SPAIN | Fax: +34-944858139 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- "Go ahead... make my day." - H. Callahan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri May 29 09:57:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA16112 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Fri, 29 May 1998 09:57:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pobox.com ([208.141.230.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA16083 for ; Fri, 29 May 1998 09:57:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alk@pobox.com) Received: (from alk@localhost) by pobox.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) id LAA29360; Fri, 29 May 1998 11:56:36 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 11:56:36 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199805291656.LAA29360@pobox.com> From: Tony Kimball X-Face: O9M"E%K;(f-Go/XDxL+pCxI5*gr[=FN@Y`cl1.Tn Reply-To: alk@pobox.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Face: O9M"E%K;(f-Go/XDxL+pCxI5*gr[=FN@Y`cl1.Tn Reply-To: alk@pobox.com To: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Where to find an Intel VRM? X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 20.3 "Vatican City" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I got me a Providence MB (PR440FX) and a pair of PPro's, but now I need to find a VRM for the second CPU. Any idea where to find one? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri May 29 11:19:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA00674 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Fri, 29 May 1998 11:19:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from symbion.srrc.usda.gov ([199.78.118.118]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA00660 for ; Fri, 29 May 1998 11:19:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from glenn@nola.srrc.usda.gov) Received: from nola.srrc.usda.gov (localhost.srrc.usda.gov [127.0.0.1]) by symbion.srrc.usda.gov (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA17490; Fri, 29 May 1998 13:18:08 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from glenn@nola.srrc.usda.gov) Message-Id: <199805291818.NAA17490@symbion.srrc.usda.gov> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: alk@pobox.com cc: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG From: Glenn Johnson Subject: Re: Where to find an Intel VRM? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 29 May 1998 11:56:36 CDT." <199805291656.LAA29360@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 13:18:08 -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > I got me a Providence MB (PR440FX) and a pair of PPro's, but now I > need to find a VRM for the second CPU. Any idea where to find one? > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message > Try Top-Priority, http://www.top-priority.com. They sell Corsair VRMs for about $50. -- Glenn Johnson Technician USDA, ARS, SRRC gjohnson@nola.srrc.usda.gov To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri May 29 18:43:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA22705 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Fri, 29 May 1998 18:43:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from lucy.bedford.net (lucy.bedford.net [206.99.145.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA22687 for ; Fri, 29 May 1998 18:42:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from listread@lucy.bedford.net) Received: (from listread@localhost) by lucy.bedford.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA11282; Fri, 29 May 1998 21:29:00 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from listread) Message-Id: <199805300129.VAA11282@lucy.bedford.net> Subject: Re: Where to find an Intel VRM? In-Reply-To: <199805291656.LAA29360@pobox.com> from Tony Kimball at "May 29, 98 11:56:36 am" To: alk@pobox.com Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 21:29:00 -0400 (EDT) Cc: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-to: djv@bedford.net From: CyberPeasant X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Tony Kimball wrote: > > I got me a Providence MB (PR440FX) and a pair of PPro's, but now I > need to find a VRM for the second CPU. Any idea where to find one? > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message > www.vxie.com has some. Dave -- Is the true purpose of Unix its use, or its administration? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri May 29 23:45:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA02575 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Fri, 29 May 1998 23:45:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from asteroid.svib.ru (root@asteroid.svib.ru [195.151.166.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA02547 for ; Fri, 29 May 1998 23:44:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tarkhil@asteroid.svib.ru) Received: from minas-tirith.pol.ru (shuttle.svib.ru [195.151.166.144]) by asteroid.svib.ru (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA07702; Sat, 30 May 1998 10:44:25 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from tarkhil@asteroid.svib.ru) Received: from minas-tirith.pol.ru (minas-tirith.pol.ru [127.0.0.1]) by minas-tirith.pol.ru (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA08471; Sat, 30 May 1998 10:44:53 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from tarkhil@minas-tirith.pol.ru) Message-Id: <199805300644.KAA08471@minas-tirith.pol.ru> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Mike Smith Cc: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: On IWill and sio: solution? In-reply-to: Your message "Thu, 28 May 1998 12:43:24 PDT." <199805281943.MAA01211@dingo.cdrom.com> Reply-To: tarkhil@asteroid.svib.ru X-URL: http://freebsd.svib.ru Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 10:44:52 +0400 From: Alex Povolotsky Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org <199805281943.MAA01211@dingo.cdrom.com>Mike Smith writes: >> i386/isa/sio.c for ignoring the tests 5 and 8. In this way, >> there wouldn't be any need to edit sio.c. > >You don't appear to be paying attention. > >Ignoring tests 5 and 8 does not "fix" the problem. It's a bandaid for It will fix the other problem. When I was trying to install via dialup (it was THE only option) on the machine with IWill MB, I've ended with extracting hard disk and going to the nearest available place which happened to be about 1.5 hours away at that time. Alex. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat May 30 10:52:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA08425 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Sat, 30 May 1998 10:52:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp2.xs4all.nl (smtp2.xs4all.nl [194.109.6.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA08340 for ; Sat, 30 May 1998 10:51:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nexus@xs4all.nl) Received: (from root@localhost) by smtp2.xs4all.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA21112; Sat, 30 May 1998 19:51:21 +0200 (CEST) From: Case To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Via: imploder /usr/local/lib/mail/news2mail/news2mail at smtp2.xs4all.nl Subject: pci_map_port failed: device's iorange ? Date: 30 May 1998 19:51:15 +0200 Organization: XS4ALL, networking for the masses Message-ID: <6kpguj$kv4$1@xs2.xs4all.nl> Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I just installed FreeBSD-2.2.6 on a micron transport xke laptop, and when I booted it while connected to the docking station I noticed the following messages: Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: [ .. ] chip5 rev 1 on pci0:9:[ .. ] Probing for devices on PCI bus 1: ahc0 rev 3 int a irq 9 on pci1:7:0 pci_map_port failed: device's iorange 0xe800-0xe8ff is incompatible with its bridge's range 0x0-0xfff de0 rev 48 int a irq 9 on pci1:8:0 pci_map_port failed: device's iorange 0xec00-0xec7f is incompatible with its bridge's range 0x0-0xfff The iorange 0x0-0xfff on the bridge chips seems odd.. is freebsd confused by the fact that there are 2 pci busses on this machine ? (430TX mobile chipset) (oh, interesting sidenote, it works fine in netbsd :-] ) Curious, Casey To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat May 30 12:05:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA16876 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Sat, 30 May 1998 12:05:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from germanium.xtalwind.net (germanium.xtalwind.net [205.160.242.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA16832; Sat, 30 May 1998 12:05:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jack@germanium.xtalwind.net) Received: from localhost (jack@localhost) by germanium.xtalwind.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id PAA09104; Sat, 30 May 1998 15:05:29 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 15:05:29 -0400 (EDT) From: jack Reply-To: jack To: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: CD-Recorder Support Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Does anyone know if the Panasonic CW-7502-B SCSI recorder is supported by wormcontrol and friends? -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jack O'Neill Systems Administrator / Systems Analyst jack@germanium.xtalwind.net Crystal Wind Communications, Inc. Finger jack@germanium.xtalwind.net for my PGP key. PGP Key fingerprint = F6 C4 E6 D4 2F 15 A7 67 FD 09 E9 3C 5F CC EB CD enriched, vcard, HTML messages > /dev/null Mail from netcom.com blocked until they stop relaying SPAM -------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat May 30 12:40:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA22013 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Sat, 30 May 1998 12:40:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from antipodes.cdrom.com (castles195.castles.com [208.214.165.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA21758; Sat, 30 May 1998 12:39:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@antipodes.cdrom.com) Received: from antipodes.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by antipodes.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA06911; Sat, 30 May 1998 11:34:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199805301834.LAA06911@antipodes.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: jack cc: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CD-Recorder Support In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 30 May 1998 15:05:29 EDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 11:34:54 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Does anyone know if the Panasonic CW-7502-B SCSI recorder is > supported by wormcontrol and friends? Probably not by wormcontrol, but I would expect that cdrecord will talk to it. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat May 30 17:22:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA01245 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Sat, 30 May 1998 17:22:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from germanium.xtalwind.net (germanium.xtalwind.net [205.160.242.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA01168; Sat, 30 May 1998 17:22:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jack@germanium.xtalwind.net) Received: from localhost (jack@localhost) by germanium.xtalwind.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id UAA18901; Sat, 30 May 1998 20:22:09 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 20:22:09 -0400 (EDT) From: jack To: Mike Smith cc: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CD-Recorder Support In-Reply-To: <199805301834.LAA06911@antipodes.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 30 May 1998, Mike Smith wrote: > > Does anyone know if the Panasonic CW-7502-B SCSI recorder is > > supported by wormcontrol and friends? > > Probably not by wormcontrol, but I would expect that cdrecord will talk > to it. Searching the web, other than Panasonic's page :), revealed that it's actually a Compro drive and cdrecord lists it as a supported drive. Thanks for the nudge in the right direction, Mike. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jack O'Neill Systems Administrator / Systems Analyst jack@germanium.xtalwind.net Crystal Wind Communications, Inc. Finger jack@germanium.xtalwind.net for my PGP key. PGP Key fingerprint = F6 C4 E6 D4 2F 15 A7 67 FD 09 E9 3C 5F CC EB CD enriched, vcard, HTML messages > /dev/null Mail from netcom.com blocked until they stop relaying SPAM -------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message