From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Nov 29 09:14:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA13915 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 09:14:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.40.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA13908; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 09:14:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.9.1/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA08950; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 18:13:46 +0100 (CET) To: freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: M-systems "DiskOnChip 2000" binary driver released From: Poul-Henning Kamp Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 18:13:43 +0100 Message-ID: <8948.912359623@critter.freebsd.dk> Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At: http://phk.freebsd.dk/doc2k/ If you don't know what it is, find out here: http://www.m-sys.com/ All questions, bug reports, huge cash donations (small unmarked bills preferred) should be sent to: doc2k@phk.freebsd.dk Please also report if you put this live, so we can give M-systems an indication of the size of the userbase to convince them to make this driver officially supported. Poul-Henning -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." "ttyv0" -- What UNIX calls a $20K state-of-the-art, 3D, hi-res color terminal To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Nov 29 17:34:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA29260 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 17:34:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rip.psg.com (rip.psg.com [147.28.0.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA29249 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 17:34:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from randy@psg.com) Received: from localhost (393 bytes) by rip.psg.com via sendmail with P:stdio/R:inet_resolve/T:smtp (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 17:34:29 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.101 1997-Dec-17 #1 built 1998-Oct-13) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 17:34:29 -0800 (PST) From: Randy Bush MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: testing hauppauge Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org how can i test basic operation of a brooktree/hauppauge? i would like to know it is working before chasing stuff in the mbone tools. randy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Nov 29 18:54:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA06161 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 18:54:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from n4hhe.ampr.org (tnt3-212.HiWAAY.net [208.147.146.212]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA06149 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 18:54:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dkelly@n4hhe.ampr.org) Received: from n4hhe.ampr.org (localhost.ampr.org [127.0.0.1]) by n4hhe.ampr.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA00659; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 20:53:33 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dkelly@n4hhe.ampr.org) Message-Id: <199811300253.UAA00659@n4hhe.ampr.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Mark Murray cc: Randy Bush , freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG From: David Kelly Subject: Re: fumbling at sound card In-reply-to: Message from Mark Murray of "Sun, 29 Nov 1998 09:47:09 +0200." <199811290747.JAA15577@greenpeace.grondar.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 20:53:33 -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Mark Murray writes: > Randy Bush wrote: > > pcm1 (SB16pnp sn 0x1fd0a682) at 0x220-0x22f \ > > irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x15 on isa > : > > pcm0 not probed due to drq conflict with pcm1 at 1 > > > > what is the 'correct' change? > > Things are working properly - you just need to use /dev/audio1, /dev/dsp1 > etc. ...at least if the sound card really is a SoundBlaster or he wishes to use as if it were a SoundBlaster. I'd start by "mv kernel.config kernel.config.old", reboot, and see if Luigi's snd and pnp code properly detects the card. If not, then let's dig out the Vendor ID: (listed by dmesg) and add it to the list (such as freebsd-multimedia). Mine looks like this: Probing for PnP devices: CSN 1 Vendor ID: CSCd925 [0x25d9630e] Serial 0xffffffff Comp ID: @@@0000 [0x0000 0000] mss_attach 1 at 0x530 irq 5 dma 1:3 flags 0x13 pcm1 (CS423x/Yamaha sn 0xffffffff) at 0x530-0x537 irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x1 3 on isa Then the one item Randy is lacking: # cd /dev # ./MAKEDEV snd1 This creates the /dev entries and points symbolic links audio, dsp (and others) to the correct devices for pcm1. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Nov 29 19:11:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA07999 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 19:11:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rip.psg.com (rip.psg.com [147.28.0.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA07994 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 19:11:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from randy@psg.com) Received: from localhost (1597 bytes) by rip.psg.com via sendmail with P:stdio/R:inet_resolve/T:smtp (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 19:11:17 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.101 1997-Dec-17 #1 built 1998-Oct-13) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 19:11:17 -0800 (PST) From: Randy Bush MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: David Kelly Cc: Mark Murray , freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: fumbling at sound card References: <199811290747.JAA15577@greenpeace.grondar.za> <199811300253.UAA00659@n4hhe.ampr.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >>> pcm1 (SB16pnp sn 0x1fd0a682) at 0x220-0x22f \ >>> irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x15 on isa >>> pcm0 not probed due to drq conflict with pcm1 at 1 >>> what is the 'correct' change? >> Things are working properly - you just need to use /dev/audio1, /dev/dsp1 >> etc. > ...at least if the sound card really is a SoundBlaster or he wishes to > use as if it were a SoundBlaster. indeed. my application is the multicast toolset. > Then the one item Randy is lacking: > # cd /dev > # ./MAKEDEV snd1 yup. mark told me this in private mail. and i can run xcdplayer, though i suspect it is not really using the same path as microphone input a la vat. i also did a MAKEDEV vat, though i am unsure it was really needed. and, thanks to hints from louis mamakos, i tested that the video was up using fxtv. so, i start sdr and create a session. vat seems to sense sound through the mike, but i am unable to hear anything yet. and i can not get vic to show me a picture of myself. but much of this could be my ineptitude at mbone tools. nb: much thanks to jacques vidrine for getting the mbone tools working in -current. randy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Nov 30 05:25:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA25414 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 05:25:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (ppp7.portal.net.au [202.12.71.107]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA25405 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 05:25:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA01242; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 02:37:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199811291037.CAA01242@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Randy Bush cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: WaveLAN ISA clues needed In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 27 Oct 1998 15:30:44 PST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed ; boundary="==_Exmh_-569553260" Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 02:37:47 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multipart MIME message. --==_Exmh_-569553260 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sorry for the delay on this; you might want to try the attached patches and let me know how you go. > i have an ISA 915mhz roamabout. [ i have been using pcmcia roamabouts for a > few years, even one on an isa pcmcia adapter under bsdi ] > > dmesg sez: > > wl0 at 0x300-0x30f irq 10 on isa > wlattach: base 300, unit 0 > wl0: address 08:00:6a:2b:dd:a7, NWID 0xaaaa > > as you can seem i had already done > > wlconfig wl0 nwid 0xaaaa > > i ifconfig it > > # ifconfig wl0 inet 147.28.2.42 netmask 255.255.255.0 up > Oct 27 15:20:25 rip /kernel: wl0: entered wlioctl() > Oct 27 15:20:26 rip /kernel: wl0: DCE_STATUS: 0x0, Correct NWID's: 65535, Wrong NWID's: 2 > Oct 27 15:20:26 rip /kernel: THR_PRE_SET: 0x44, SIGNAL_LVL: 205, SILENCE_LVL: 192 > Oct 27 15:20:26 rip /kernel: SIGN_QUAL: 0x7f, NETW_ID: ff:aa, DES: 255 > Oct 27 15:20:26 rip /kernel: wl0: entered wlioctl() > Oct 27 15:20:26 rip /kernel: wl0: entered wlinit() > Oct 27 15:20:26 rip /kernel: wl0: entered wlhwrst() > Oct 27 15:20:26 rip /kernel: wl0: DCE_STATUS: 0x0, Correct NWID's: 0, Wrong NWID's: 0 > Oct 27 15:20:26 rip /kernel: THR_PRE_SET: 0xc0, SIGNAL_LVL: 76, SILENCE_LVL: 64 > Oct 27 15:20:26 rip /kernel: SIGN_QUAL: 0x7f, NETW_ID: ff:0, DES: 255 > Oct 27 15:20:26 rip /kernel: wl0: doing a wlack() > Oct 27 15:20:26 rip /kernel: wl0: entered wldiag() > Oct 27 15:20:26 rip /kernel: wl0: entered wlconfig() > Oct 27 15:20:26 rip /kernel: wl0: doing a wlack() > Oct 27 15:20:26 rip /kernel: wl0: doing a wlack() > Oct 27 15:20:26 rip /kernel: wl0: entered wlrustrt() > Oct 27 15:20:26 rip /kernel: wl0: entered wlstart() > Oct 27 15:20:26 rip /kernel: wl0: entered wlstart() > Oct 27 15:20:26 rip /kernel: wl0: entered wlxmt() > Oct 27 15:20:26 rip /kernel: wl0: wavelan device timeout on xmit > Oct 27 15:20:26 rip /kernel: wl0: entered wlinit() > Oct 27 15:20:26 rip /kernel: wl0: entered wlhwrst() > Oct 27 15:20:26 rip /kernel: wl0: DCE_STATUS: 0x0, Correct NWID's: 0, Wrong NWID's: 0 > Oct 27 15:20:26 rip /kernel: THR_PRE_SET: 0xc0, SIGNAL_LVL: 76, SILENCE_LVL: 64 > Oct 27 15:20:26 rip /kernel: SIGN_QUAL: 0x7f, NETW_ID: ff:0, DES: 255 > Oct 27 15:20:26 rip /kernel: wl0: doing a wlack() > Oct 27 15:20:26 rip /kernel: wl0: entered wldiag() > Oct 27 15:20:26 rip /kernel: wl0: entered wlconfig() > Oct 27 15:20:26 rip /kernel: wl0: doing a wlack() > Oct 27 15:20:26 rip /kernel: wl0: doing a wlack() > Oct 27 15:20:26 rip /kernel: wl0: entered wlrustrt() > Oct 27 15:20:26 rip /kernel: wl0: entered wlstart() > > and another host which has a known-to-be-working 915 at 147.28.2.2 with nwid > 0xaaaa can not see the isa card wavelan. > > 3.0 of a few days ago on asus p350. > > any hints appreciated. the wl and wlconfig man pages are a bit weak. > > randy > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message > --==_Exmh_-569553260 Content-Type: message/rfc822 ; name="205" Content-Description: 205 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="205" Return-Path: mike Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au for mike with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.14 1997/04/11) Sun Jul 26 03:35:07 1998 X-From_: jflowers@ezo.net Sun Jul 26 03:34:26 1998 Received: from lily.ezo.net (root@lily.ezo.net [206.102.130.13]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.8.8/8.6.9) with ESMTP id DAA05391 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 03:34:21 +0930 (CST) Received: from violet.eznets.canton.oh.us (p140.ezo.net [206.102.130.72]) by lily.ezo.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA06143 for >; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 14:02:25 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jim Flowers" To: " Subject: Re: WaveLAN Driver for FreeBSD/Attachments Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 14:05:02 -0400 Message-ID: <01bdb7f6$bec289a0$8a8266ce@violet.eznets.canton.oh.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0093_01BDB7D5.37B0E9A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0093_01BDB7D5.37B0E9A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit And with the attachments: Jim Flowers >Mike, > >Many hours later, the details of which are boring, I managed to get this >running with a couple of minor hacks to if_wl.c and if_wl.h. The >WaveLAN/ISA card now runs well (900 Kbps with 500 byte packets >point-to-point) and reliably (starts up every time) on four different >machines (486, P133, P200 and Cyrix Gx86). The 486 and Gx86 run OK with >unmodified code. > >The first is a SLOW_CMD that inserts a 20 mS delay via DELAY() in wlhwrst() >when issuing the clear reset and set PIO#1 in autoincrement mode command. >Apparently the next call to wlmmcstat() or wlbldcu() interferes with >completion of the hardware reset. The P133 worked OK with 10 mS but the >P200 needed more. Issuing 2 regular (1 mS) CMDs also provided the same >effect. DELAY(15000000) does check in at 15 mS. While this allows the >initial routines to complete without error and marks wl0 up and running it >does not actually transmit/receive packets until a wlconfig wl0 currnwid >0x#### command is issued. > >So the second hack was to perform the same MMC_WRITE(MMC_NETW_ID_?) commands >just before leaving wlhwrst(). Other MMC_WRITE commands (I only tried >MMC_FREEZE) don't do it. Don't know why but this starts the mmc running and >everything works OK. > >Thought this information might be useful to you or anyone else having >problems or in updating the driver code. A copy of the universal diffs and >the dmesg from each machine is attached. > >Now, if I can just get the lnc Ethernet driver to work with the built in >Am79C971 chip on the unit with the Gx86 processor I'll be happy. Next >project (shudder :-( Any other ideas here? > >Regards, > >Jim > >> >>The ISA Wavelans are *extremely* touchy about timing. You might want >>to start by checking the ISA config on your new board, and perhaps >>crank out some of the I/O delays, etc. >> >>> wl0: bldcu() not ready after reset >>> wl0: diag() failed; status=0,inw=0,outw=e0a0 >>> scb_status 0 >>> scb_command 100 >>> scb_cbl adaa >>> cu_cmd 8007 >>> wl0: init(): trouble resetting board >> >>You could also try upping STATUS_TRIES in sys/i386/isa/if_wl.c. There >>are quite a few hardcoded spin loops in this driver; the diag() failure >>may be symptomatic of this too. >> >>What motherboard chipset(s) are you using? >> >>> Pings to the ifconfigged address work; beyond that, no response. Not >>> surprising as it's marked up but not running. Same problem on a Pentium >>> 200MMX. >> >>Um, actually if it's responding to pings, then it's more or less >>working. >> >>> Any suggestions on where to start looking? I know the driver is well >>> documented so that's where I'll be but I'm hoping this is something >obvious >>> as I would like to use a lot of these boxes for a wireless network. >> >>Try increasing the STATUS_TRIES value to start with, and see if that >>makes the 'not ready after reset' message go away. If that works, then >>increase the value in the poll loop above the 'failed; status' message. >> >>It may be that when the first is fixed, the card will be happy enough >>that the rest work. Apart from that, it actually appears to be running >>well enough - the interrupt handler is being called, and it's sending >>stuff in response OK, it's just not passing the startup tests. > > ------=_NextPart_000_0093_01BDB7D5.37B0E9A0 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="if_wl.c.patch" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="if_wl.c.patch" --- if_wl.c.dist Tue Jul 21 00:39:23 1998 +++ if_wl.c Fri Jul 24 09:10:09 1998 @@ -653,6 +653,9 @@ + (wlmmcread(base,MMC_EEDATAHrv)<<8); /* 2.4 Gz */ sp->freq24 = (i>>6)+2400; /* 2.4 Gz: save real freq */ } + MMC_WRITE(MMC_NETW_ID_L,sp->nwid[1]); /* these are needed to */ + MMC_WRITE(MMC_NETW_ID_H,sp->nwid[0]); /* get the mmc to run, */ + /* not a clue as to why. */ } /* @@ -731,7 +734,8 @@ /* clear reset command and set PIO#1 in autoincrement mode */ sc->hacr = HACR_DEFAULT; - CMD(unit); + SLOW_CMD(unit); /* allows wlhwrst and calls to complete. wl0 is + marked up and running but mmc is not running. */ #ifdef WLDEBUG if (sc->wl_if.if_flags & IFF_DEBUG) ------=_NextPart_000_0093_01BDB7D5.37B0E9A0 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="if_wl.h.patch" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="if_wl.h.patch" --- if_wl.h.dist Sat Jul 18 15:00:19 1998 +++ if_wl.h Fri Jul 24 08:46:34 1998 @@ -102,6 +102,13 @@ DELAY(DELAYCONST); \ } +#define SLOW_CMD(unit) \ + { \ + outw(HACR(WLSOFTC(unit)->base),WLSOFTC(unit)->hacr); \ + /* delay for 20 ms, when much longer is needed */ \ + DELAY(20000); \ + } + /* macro for setting the channel attention bit. No delays here since * it is used in critical sections */ ------=_NextPart_000_0093_01BDB7D5.37B0E9A0 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="dmesg.486" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="dmesg.486" FreeBSD 2.2.6-RELEASE #0: Fri Jul 17 10:50:31 EDT 1998 jflowers@tiny.ezo.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/SkyLAN Calibrating clock(s) ... i8254 clock: 1193278 Hz CLK_USE_I8254_CALIBRATION not specified - using default frequency CPU: i486 DX2 (486-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x435 Stepping=5 Features=0x3 real memory = 8388608 (8192K bytes) Physical memory chunk(s): 0x00001000 - 0x0009ffff, 651264 bytes (159 pages) 0x00273000 - 0x007fdfff, 5812224 bytes (1419 pages) avail memory = 6184960 (6040K bytes) pcibus_setup(1): mode 1 addr port (0x0cf8) is 0xffffff18 pcibus_setup(2): mode 2 enable port (0x0cf8) is 0xff Probing for devices on the ISA bus: wl0: address 08:00:6a:2a:24:aa, NWID 0x0123, Freq 2422 MHz hasr 0008 scb at ffde: 0040 0000 e0a0 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 cu at e0a0: a400 a004 ffff e1a0 0008 2b6a 80d0 0008 tbd at e1a0: 8054 ffff e3e0 0000 wl0: entered wlioctl() wl0: entered wlinit() wl0: entered wlhwrst() wl0: DCE_STATUS: 0x0, Correct NWID's: 0, Wrong NWID's: 0 THR_PRE_SET: 0xc0, SIGNAL_LVL: 104, SILENCE_LVL: 67 SIGN_QUAL: 0xff, NETW_ID: ff:0, DES: 255 wl0: doing a wlack() wl0: entered wldiag() wl0: doing a wlack() wl0: entered wlconfig() wl0: doing a wlack() wl0: entered wlrustrt() wl0: entered wlstart() wl0: entered wlstart() wl0: entered wlxmt() wl0: wlintr() called wl0: doing a wlack() wl0: entered wlstart() wl0: entered wlioctl() ------=_NextPart_000_0093_01BDB7D5.37B0E9A0 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="dmesg.crocus" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="dmesg.crocus" FreeBSD 3.0-971006-SNAP #4: Fri Jul 24 03:07:43 EDT 1998 jflowers@crocus.ezo.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/LOCAL Calibrating clock(s) ... i586 clock: 199337259 Hz, i8254 clock: 1193353 = Hz CLK_USE_I8254_CALIBRATION not specified - using default frequency CLK_USE_I586_CALIBRATION not specified - using old calibration method CPU: Pentium (199.31-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin =3D "GenuineIntel" Id =3D 0x543 Stepping=3D3 Features=3D0x8001bf real memory =3D 33554432 (32768K bytes) Physical memory chunk(s): 0x00001000 - 0x0009ffff, 651264 bytes (159 pages) 0x002a9000 - 0x01ffdfff, 30756864 bytes (7509 pages) avail memory =3D 29945856 (29244K bytes) Found BIOS32 Service Directory header at 0xf00faef0 Entry =3D 0xfb370 (0xf00fb370) Rev =3D 0 Len =3D 1 PCI BIOS entry at 0xb3a0 DMI header at 0xf00f5ca0 Version 2.0 Table at 0xf0800, 21 entries, 694 bytes Other BIOS signatures found: ACPI: 00000000 $PnP: 000fbf20 pci_open(1): mode 1 addr port (0x0cf8) is 0x80000060 pci_open(1a): mode1res=3D0x80000000 (0x80000000) pci_cfgcheck: device 0 [class=3D060000] [hdr=3D00] is there = (id=3D15951106) Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: found-> vendor=3D0x1106, dev=3D0x1595, revid=3D0x06 class=3D06-00-00, hdrtype=3D0x00, mfdev=3D0 chip0: rev 0x06 on = pci0.0.0 found-> vendor=3D0x1106, dev=3D0x0586, revid=3D0x41 class=3D06-01-00, hdrtype=3D0x00, mfdev=3D1 chip1: rev 0x41 on = pci0.7.0 found-> vendor=3D0x1106, dev=3D0x0571, revid=3D0x06 class=3D01-01-8a, hdrtype=3D0x00, mfdev=3D0 ide_pci0: rev 0x06 on = pci0.7.1 via_571_status: Primary IDE prefetch/postwrite enabled/enabled via_571_status: busmaster status read retry enabled via_571_status: primary drive 0 data setup=3D4 active=3D3 recovery=3D1 via_571_status: primary ctrl active=3D16 recovery=3D1 via_571_status: secondary drive 1 udma method=3D0 enable=3D0 PIOmode=3D0 = cycle=3D5 via_571_status: Primary IDE prefetch/postwrite enabled/enabled via_571_status: busmaster status read retry enabled via_571_status: primary drive 1 data setup=3D4 active=3D11 recovery=3D9 via_571_status: primary ctrl active=3D16 recovery=3D1 via_571_status: secondary drive 1 udma method=3D0 enable=3D0 PIOmode=3D0 = cycle=3D5 ide_pci: busmaster 0 status: 04 from port: 00007002 via_571_status: Secondary IDE prefetch/postwrite enabled/disabled via_571_status: busmaster status read retry enabled via_571_status: secondary drive 0 data setup=3D4 active=3D4 recovery=3D2 via_571_status: secondary ctrl active=3D16 recovery=3D9 via_571_status: secondary drive 1 udma method=3D0 enable=3D0 PIOmode=3D0 = cycle=3D5 via_571_status: Secondary IDE prefetch/postwrite enabled/disabled via_571_status: busmaster status read retry enabled via_571_status: secondary drive 1 data setup=3D4 active=3D11 = recovery=3D9 via_571_status: secondary ctrl active=3D16 recovery=3D9 via_571_status: secondary drive 1 udma method=3D0 enable=3D0 PIOmode=3D0 = cycle=3D5 ide_pci: busmaster 1 status: 04 from port: 0000700a found-> vendor=3D0x1106, dev=3D0x3040, revid=3D0x10 class=3D00-00-00, hdrtype=3D0x00, mfdev=3D0 found-> vendor=3D0x10ec, dev=3D0x8029, revid=3D0x00 class=3D02-00-00, hdrtype=3D0x00, mfdev=3D0 intpin=3Da, irq=3D11 map[0]: type 4, range 32, base 00007200, size 5 wl0 at 0x300-0x30f irq 10 on isa bpf: wl0 attached wl0: address 08:00:6a:2b:8f:83, NWID 0x0123, Freq 2422 MHz hasr 0008 scb at ffde: 0040 0000 e0a0 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000=20 cu at e0a0: a400 a004 ffff e1a0 ffff ffff ffff 0008=20 tbd at e1a0: 807c ffff e3e0 0000=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0093_01BDB7D5.37B0E9A0 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="dmesg.radar" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="dmesg.radar" FreeBSD 2.2.6-RELEASE #27: Fri Jul 24 09:10:29 EDT 1998 Calibrating clock(s) ... i586 clock: 199342578 Hz, i8254 clock: 1193384 = Hz CLK_USE_I8254_CALIBRATION not specified - using default frequency CLK_USE_I586_CALIBRATION not specified - using old calibration method CPU: Pentium (199.31-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin =3D "GenuineIntel" Id =3D 0x543 Stepping=3D3 Features=3D0x8001bf real memory =3D 33554432 (32768K bytes) Physical memory chunk(s): 0x00001000 - 0x0009efff, 647168 bytes (158 pages) 0x00272000 - 0x01ffdfff, 30982144 bytes (7564 pages) avail memory =3D 30408704 (29696K bytes) pcibus_setup(1): mode 1 addr port (0x0cf8) is 0x80000060 pcibus_setup(1a): mode1res=3D0x80000000 (0x80000000) pcibus_check: device 0 is there (id=3D15951106) Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: configuration mode 1 allows 32 devices. chip0 = rev 4 on pci0:0:0 chip1 = rev 39 on pci0:7:0 pci0:7:1: VIA Technologies, device=3D0x0571, class=3Dstorage (ide) [no = driver assigned] map(20): io(6000) ed1 rev 0 int a irq 11 on pci0:17:0 mapreg[10] type=3D1 addr=3D00006200 size=3D0020. ed1: address 00:40:ca:10:1e:f7, type NE2000 (16 bit)=20 bpf: ed1 attached vga0 rev 6 int a irq ?? on pci0:18:0 mapreg[10] type=3D0 addr=3De0000000 size=3D4000000. pci0: uses 67108864 bytes of memory from e0000000 upto e3ffffff. pci0: uses 32 bytes of I/O space from 6200 upto 621f. Probing for devices on the ISA bus: wl0 at 0x300-0x30f irq 5 on isa bpf: wl0 attached wl0: address 08:00:6a:2b:d0:80, NWID 0x0123, Freq 2422 MHz hasr 0008 scb at ffde: 0040 0000 e0a0 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000=20 cu at e0a0: a000 8001 e0a0 0008 2b6a 80d0 0100 0008=20 tbd at e1a0: 0000 ffff 0000 0000=20 Device configuration finished. ------=_NextPart_000_0093_01BDB7D5.37B0E9A0 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="dmesg.tiny" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="dmesg.tiny" FreeBSD 2.2.6-RELEASE #0: Wed Jul 15 07:05:28 EDT 1998 jflowers@tiny.ezo.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/SkyLAN Calibrating clock(s) ... failed, using default i8254 clock of 1193182 Hz CLK_USE_I8254_CALIBRATION not specified - using default frequency CPU: Cyrix MediaGX (486-class CPU) Origin =3D "CyrixInstead" DIR=3D0x1045 Stepping=3D1 Revision=3D0 real memory =3D 15204352 (14848K bytes) Physical memory chunk(s): 0x00001000 - 0x0009ffff, 651264 bytes (159 pages) 0x0026e000 - 0x00e7dfff, 12648448 bytes (3088 pages) avail memory =3D 12824576 (12524K bytes) pcibus_setup(1): mode 1 addr port (0x0cf8) is 0x800090d0 pcibus_setup(1a): mode1res=3D0x80000000 (0x80000000) pcibus_check: device 0 is there (id=3D00011078) Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: configuration mode 1 allows 32 devices. chip0 = rev 0 on pci0:0:0 lnc1 rev 37 int a irq 10 on pci0:7:0 mapreg[10] type=3D1 addr=3D00006000 size=3D0020. mapreg[14] type=3D0 addr=3De0000000 size=3D0020. lnc1: NE2100 (C-LANCE) address 00:e0:c5:fc:1a:dc chip1 = rev 0 on pci0:18:0 mapreg[10] type=3D1 addr=3D00003000 size=3D0040. pci0: uses 32 bytes of memory from e0000000 upto e000001f. pci0: uses 96 bytes of I/O space from 3000 upto 601f. Probing for devices on the ISA bus: lnc0: disabled, not probed. wl0 not found at 0x300 Device configuration finished. ------=_NextPart_000_0093_01BDB7D5.37B0E9A0-- --==_Exmh_-569553260 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com --==_Exmh_-569553260-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Nov 30 14:42:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA26454 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 14:42:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from icicle.winternet.com (icicle.winternet.com [198.174.169.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA26445 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 14:42:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mestery@mail.winternet.com) Received: (from adm@localhost) by icicle.winternet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA08735; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 16:42:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from tundra.winternet.com(198.174.169.11) by icicle.winternet.com via smap (V2.0) id xma008630; Mon, 30 Nov 98 16:41:49 -0600 Received: from localhost (mestery@localhost) by tundra.winternet.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) with ESMTP id QAA06334; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 16:41:48 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: tundra.winternet.com: mestery owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 16:41:48 -0600 (CST) From: Kyle Mestery To: Bill Paul cc: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Call for testers for RealTek 8139 driver In-Reply-To: <199809232033.QAA29223@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Greetings, I am using the Realtek driver mentioned below, and am noticing some weird problems with it. First, some information about my setup. I have three machines on 10/100 hub: a hp apoll/300 running NetBSD operating at 10Mbps, a dual Pentium machine running FreeBSD-3.0 as of today with the ed driver running at 10Mbps, and a dual PPro machine running FreeBSD-3.0 as of today with the Realtek chip as follows: rl0: rev 0x10 int a irq 19 on pci0.15.0 rl0: Ethernet address: 00:e0:7d:01:a5:05 rl0: autoneg complete, link status good (unknown mode! forcing half-duplex, 10Mbps) I am seeing something weird. When transfering large files, I can routinely get about 1000 KB/s between the two FreeBSD boxes. But, the collision light on my hub flashes a lot, which surprised me, since the only traffic on the hub was between the two FreeBSD boxes. So, I did a netstat -i on both boxes, and noticed the box with the ed driver had 1000's of collisions, while the box with the rl driver had maybe 800 (this was after about 20 trys of both copying the file across and using NFS). The reason I suspect the rl driver vs. the ed driver is the box with the rl driver used to have an ed driver, and I would barely see 100 collisions for every couple million packets. Has anyone else seen anything like this? FYI, the same effect can be seen when I comment out "#define RL_USEIOSPACE" in /sys/pci/if_rl.c. I am currently running with it commented out (I know it's not supposed to work with SMP, but I havent seen any problems yet, and the comments in the code lead me to believe running with that commented out will improve performace.) -- Kyle Mestery StorageTek's Storage Networking Group On Wed, 23 Sep 1998, Bill Paul wrote: > This is a call for testers for yet another PCI fast ethernet device > driver, this time for the RealTek 8129 and 8139 chips. Note: I only > have an 8139 adapter so I can't tell for sure if the 8129 support > really works. The only major difference is that the 8129 uses an > external PHY and needs MDIO support whereas the 8139 has a transceiver > built in and the registers can be read directly. > > The source code is available from the following location: > > http://www.freebsd.org/~wpaul/RealTek/3.0 source for FreeBSD 3.0 > http://www.freebsd.org/~wpaul/RealTek/2.2 source for FreeBSD 2.2.x > > To add the driver to an existing system, do the following: > > - Copy if_rl.c and if_rlreg.h to /sys/pci > > - Edit /sys/conf/files and add a line that says: > > pci/if_rl.c optional rl device-driver > > - Edit your kernel config file (e.g. /sys/i386/conf/GENERIC) and add > a line that says: > > device rl0 > > - Compile a new kernel and reboot. > > You should get something like the following: > > rl0: rev 0x10 int a irq 14 on pci2.10.0 > rl0: Ethernet address: 00:40:c7:79:18:1c > rl0: autoneg complete, link status good (full-duplex, 100Mbps) > > My test machine is a PII 400Mhz system; on this system I can easily > get 11MB/s transfer rates at 100Mbps full-duplex. Since the driver has > to perform buffer copies, performance may not be quite as good on slower > systems. Also, the autonegotiation on this chip seems a little flaky: > you may have to force the proper mode using ifconfig in order to set > it correctly for your network. > > As usual, report problems or success reports to > wpaul@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu. > > For those who are wondering, no, this driver will not make it into > FreeBSD 3.0-RELEASE: 3.0 is in a feature freeze and we have enough > new code to whack into shape before the ship date. > > Next on the hit parade: the Winbond W89C840F chip. > > -- > ============================================================================= > -Bill Paul (212) 854-6020 | System Manager, Master of Unix-Fu > Work: wpaul@ctr.columbia.edu | Center for Telecommunications Research > Home: wpaul@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu | Columbia University, New York City > ============================================================================= > "It is not I who am crazy; it is I who am mad!" - Ren Hoek, "Space Madness" > ============================================================================= > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Nov 30 15:10:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA29595 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 15:10:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from root.com (root.com [198.145.90.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA29587 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 15:10:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from root@root.com) Received: from root.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by root.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA21333; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 15:10:32 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199811302310.PAA21333@root.com> To: Kyle Mestery cc: Bill Paul , hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Call for testers for RealTek 8139 driver In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 30 Nov 1998 16:41:48 CST." From: David Greenman Reply-To: dg@root.com Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 15:10:32 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >I am seeing something weird. When transfering large files, I can routinely get >about 1000 KB/s between the two FreeBSD boxes. But, the collision light on my >hub flashes a lot, which surprised me, since the only traffic on the hub was >between the two FreeBSD boxes. So, I did a netstat -i on both boxes, and Don't worry about that. Slight differences in the speed of the NICs on the wire (specifically, their ability to send out back-to-back packets) is the main thing that will affect collisions. The collisions are caused by the output packets colliding with the TCP ACKs and is quite normal and expected with half duplex ethernet. -DG David Greenman Co-founder/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Dec 1 02:47:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA13167 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 02:47:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hawk.it.pl (hawk.it.pl [195.116.138.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA13157 for ; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 02:47:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sjarczyk@hawk.it.pl) Received: from hawk.it.pl (hawk.it.pl [195.116.138.194]) by hawk.it.pl (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA09989 for ; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 11:46:54 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from sjarczyk@hawk.it.pl) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 11:46:54 +0100 (CET) From: Sergiusz Jarczyk To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Sangoma Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi I have problem with Sangoma WANPIPE card. I make everything exactly like is described in REAME file, but when I compile kernel there is a message, that there is nothing like fpipe_ (this is keyword vector fpipe_ in line device fpipe0). Can anyone have same problem ? The system is FreeBSD 2.2.6-RELEASE. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Dec 1 06:39:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA04814 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 06:39:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.nostrum.com (nostrum-gw.cy-net.net [206.28.0.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA04793 for ; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 06:39:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pckizer@nostrum.com) Received: from mail.nostrum.com (pckizer@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.nostrum.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id IAA04333; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 08:37:22 -0600 From: Philip Kizer To: Sergiusz Jarczyk cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sangoma In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 01 Dec 1998 11:46:54 +0100." Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 08:37:22 -0600 Message-ID: <4327.912523042@mail.nostrum.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sergiusz Jarczyk wrote: >I have problem with Sangoma WANPIPE card. >I make everything exactly like is described in REAME file, but when I >compile kernel there is a message, that there is nothing like fpipe_ >(this is keyword vector fpipe_ in line device fpipe0). >Can anyone have same problem ? >The system is FreeBSD 2.2.6-RELEASE. If I'm parsing your description correctly, I have to ask: Did you follow step 3 in the install procedure (README.fpipe): > 3. Add the driver source files to the kernel files list, which is > /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/files.386. Add the following definition line > into the list (it is stored alphabetically, so insert it appropriately): > > i386/isa/fpipe.c optional fpipe device-driver ? -philip To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Dec 1 07:10:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA07514 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 07:10:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hawk.it.pl (hawk.it.pl [195.116.138.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA07397 for ; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 07:09:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sjarczyk@hawk.it.pl) Received: from hawk.it.pl (hawk.it.pl [195.116.138.194]) by hawk.it.pl (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA18227; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 16:08:26 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from sjarczyk@hawk.it.pl) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 16:08:25 +0100 (CET) From: Sergiusz Jarczyk To: Philip Kizer cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sangoma In-Reply-To: <4327.912523042@mail.nostrum.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Yes, I did everything exactly like is described in this file. On Tue, 1 Dec 1998, Philip Kizer wrote: > > Sergiusz Jarczyk wrote: > >I have problem with Sangoma WANPIPE card. > >I make everything exactly like is described in REAME file, but when I > >compile kernel there is a message, that there is nothing like fpipe_ > >(this is keyword vector fpipe_ in line device fpipe0). > >Can anyone have same problem ? > >The system is FreeBSD 2.2.6-RELEASE. > > If I'm parsing your description correctly, I have to ask: > Did you follow step 3 in the install procedure (README.fpipe): > > > 3. Add the driver source files to the kernel files list, which is > > /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/files.386. Add the following definition line > > into the list (it is stored alphabetically, so insert it appropriately): > > > > i386/isa/fpipe.c optional fpipe device-driver > > ? > > > -philip > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Dec 1 10:25:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA28137 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 10:25:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gateway.cybernet.com (gateway.cybernet.com [192.245.33.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA28114; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 10:25:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nestorv@cybernet.com) Received: from cybernet.com (orion.cybernet.com [192.245.33.77]) by gateway.cybernet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA25384; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 13:49:54 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <36643507.B24DFFF1@cybernet.com> Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 13:27:19 -0500 From: Nestor Voronka Reply-To: nestorv@cybernet.com Organization: Cybernet Systems Corp. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en-US,uk MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Driver for GI SB1000 SurfBoard (internal cable modem) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------2DEDAB53207D2355459E5891" Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------2DEDAB53207D2355459E5891 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have in my computer a General Instruments SB1000 SurfBoard cable modem that came with W95 drivers. However, I am unable to use it with my FreeBSD applications due to a lack of a driver. I did come across the Linux driver at http://www.jacksonville.net/~fventuri however it does not look that easy to adapt. Has anyone already done so or written a separate one? Please advise. Regards, Nestor Voronka --------------2DEDAB53207D2355459E5891 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="nestorv.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Nestor Voronka Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="nestorv.vcf" begin:vcard adr;dom:;;727 Airport Blvd.;Ann Arbor;MI;48108; n:Voronka;Nestor x-mozilla-html:TRUE org:Cybernet Systems Corp. version:2.1 email;internet:nestorv@cybernet.com title:Research Engineer tel;fax:(734) 668-8780 tel;work:(734) 668-2567 x-mozilla-cpt:;0 fn:Nestor Voronka end:vcard --------------2DEDAB53207D2355459E5891-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Dec 1 13:36:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA19799 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 13:36:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.intercom.com ([207.51.55.117]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA19774; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 13:36:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jason@intercom.com) Received: from intercom.com (shagalicious.com [206.98.165.250]) by mail.intercom.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id QAA12308; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 16:36:00 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <36646095.6BB616AB@intercom.com> Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 16:33:09 -0500 From: "Jason J. Horton" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: isp@FreeBSD.ORG, hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: IBM 8.4gig HDD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Has anyone been able to get an IBM DHEA-38451 8.4gig HDD to work with FreeBSD? I have tried 2.2.7-RELEASE, 2.2.8-RELEASE and 3.0-RELEASE. On 2.2.X systems, it gets to the sysinstall 'Probing devices, please wait (this can take awhile)...' screen and hangs, 3.0 won't even get through the device probe. The drive works fine with BSDI, but not FreeBSD -J To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Dec 1 14:24:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA25522 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 14:24:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from postal.grin.net (postal.grin.net [209.104.220.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA25506; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 14:24:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jon@grin.net) Received: from fish.grin.net (jon@fish.grin.net [209.104.220.40]) by postal.grin.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA27609; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 15:03:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (jon@localhost) by fish.grin.net (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA08483; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 14:33:35 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: fish.grin.net: jon owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 14:33:35 -0800 (PST) From: Jon Villarreal To: "Jason J. Horton" cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG, hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: IBM 8.4gig HDD In-Reply-To: <36646095.6BB616AB@intercom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I had a similar problem with a maxtor drive awhile back when I was switching it from BSD/OS to FreeBSD.. I believe I ended up downloading the 'low-level format utility' from maxtor's web site to get it working again. Maybe IBM has a similar tool available. I am using the IBM drives on both 2.2.6 and 3.0-CURRENT without any problems.. although the drive was added to the 2.2.6 machine after it was installed. Best of luck, Jon FreeBSD fuqin.degenerate.org 2.2.6-RELEASE FreeBSD 2.2.6-RELEASE #0: Sun Oct 25 13:44:33 PST 1998 jon@fuqin.degenerate.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/FUQIN i386 wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): wd0: 4884MB (10002825 sectors), 10585 cyls, 15 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc0: unit 1 (wd1): wd1: 8063MB (16514064 sectors), 16383 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S FreeBSD cruel.degenerate.org 3.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT #0: Mon Nov 30 17:17:58 PST 1998 jon@cruel.degenerate.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/CRUEL i386 wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): wd0: 1910MB (3913056 sectors), 3882 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc0: unit 1 (wd1): wd1: 8063MB (16514064 sectors), 16383 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S On Tue, 1 Dec 1998, Jason J. Horton wrote: > Has anyone been able to get an IBM DHEA-38451 8.4gig HDD > to work with FreeBSD? I have tried 2.2.7-RELEASE, 2.2.8-RELEASE > and 3.0-RELEASE. On 2.2.X systems, it gets to the sysinstall > 'Probing devices, please wait (this can take awhile)...' screen and > hangs, > 3.0 won't even get through the device probe. The drive works fine > with BSDI, but not FreeBSD To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Dec 1 18:33:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA23470 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 18:33:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from tasam.com (tasam.com [198.232.144.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA23461; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 18:33:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from clash@tasam.com) Received: from bug (bug.tasam.com [198.232.144.254]) by tasam.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id VAA19429; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 21:32:57 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <000e01be1d9c$123242a0$fe90e8c6@bug.tasam.com> From: "Joe Gleason" To: "Jason J. Horton" , , Subject: Re: IBM 8.4gig HDD Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 21:32:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2110.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am using one. But I am also running 2.2CAM: FreeBSD shell1.tasam.com 2.2CAM-19980716-SNAP FreeBSD 2.2CAM-19980716-SNAP #0: Sun Nov 8 23:09:00 EST 1998 root@shell1.tasam.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/Tasam.sh1 i386 wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): wd0: 8063MB (16514064 sectors), 16383 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc0: unit 1 (wd1): wd1: 8063MB (16514064 sectors), 16383 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa wdc1: unit 0 (wd2): wd2: 8011MB (16408224 sectors), 16278 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc1: unit 1 (wd3): wd3: 8063MB (16514064 sectors), 16383 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S My bios is set to lba on the IBM and all other drives. Joe Gleason Tasam >Has anyone been able to get an IBM DHEA-38451 8.4gig HDD >to work with FreeBSD? I have tried 2.2.7-RELEASE, 2.2.8-RELEASE >and 3.0-RELEASE. On 2.2.X systems, it gets to the sysinstall >'Probing devices, please wait (this can take awhile)...' screen and >hangs, >3.0 won't even get through the device probe. The drive works fine >with BSDI, but not FreeBSD > > -J > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Dec 2 03:04:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA06592 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 03:04:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from attach1.rocketmail.com (attach1.rocketmail.com [205.180.57.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA06585 for ; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 03:04:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ee123@rocketmail.com) Message-ID: <19981202105910.5228.rocketmail@attach1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [195.6.245.137] by attach1; Wed, 02 Dec 1998 02:59:10 PST Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 02:59:10 -0800 (PST) From: EE Reply-To: ee123@rocketmail.com Subject: adding a 3com 905B driver on 2.2.7 To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I need to add a 3com 905B ethernet card on a system with Freebsd 2.2.7 ( only supported on 2.2.8 ) Does anybody know how I must do to add driver? (which files, where, how...) Thanks a lot in advance. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Dec 2 20:12:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA23213 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 20:12:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from kawaii.aus.org (kawaii.aus.org [199.166.246.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA23203 for ; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 20:12:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hendrix@kawaii.aus.org) Received: from localhost (hendrix@localhost) by kawaii.aus.org (8.8.5/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA24287 for ; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 23:12:31 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 23:12:30 -0500 (EST) From: h77 To: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Motherboards for AMD k6-2 CPUS Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I just bought 2 motherboards, an ASUS P5A and a Microstar M5169. They both have 100mhz SDRAM and 300mhz CPUS, I have tried toggling ALL bios options, and settings , and no matter what I do , DMA for EIDE HDs does not work for either when the motherboard is set to 100mhz x 3 the only way either work is if i set them to 75mhz x 4. I am a bit busy right now but would be glad to try and give more info , from boot -v , and explicit HW/BIOS settings etc if anyone is interested. I am running 3.0-RELEASE P.S. If anyone has experienced this, please tell me what you did or couldnt do to fix it :) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Dec 4 06:55:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA08658 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 06:55:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from shadows.aeon.net (shadows.aeon.net [195.197.32.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA08652 for ; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 06:55:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bsdhw@shadows.aeon.net) Received: (from bsdhw@localhost) by shadows.aeon.net (8.9.1/8.8.3) id QAA04500 for hardware@freebsd.org; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 16:59:42 +0200 (EET) From: mika ruohotie Message-Id: <199812041459.QAA04500@shadows.aeon.net> Subject: intel dual port server adapter To: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 16:59:42 +0200 (EET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org i tried to search an answer from archives, but didnt find one... anyway, is the card described at http://www.intel.com/network/products/pro100dport.htm supported by latest current? i'm building oc3-to-ether firewall which would need to "speak" into six different ethernet segments... mickey To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Dec 4 07:36:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA12966 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 07:36:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.243.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA12961 for ; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 07:36:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA10710 for freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 16:36:30 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from olli) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 16:36:30 +0100 (CET) From: Oliver Fromme Message-Id: <199812041536.QAA10710@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Allied Telesyn AT-2560FX supported? Newsgroups: list.freebsd-hardware Organization: Administration Heim 3 Reply-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 RZTUC(3) PL2] Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, Can someone confirm or deny whether the Allied Telesyn AT-2560FX FastEthernet card works with FreeBSD (-current)? I think someone claimed that it's supposed to work with the fxp driver (intel EtherExpress Pro/100) -- is that correct? Are there any other decent FastEthernet Fibre (100Base-FX) cards that are supported by FreeBSD? Any hints are welcome! Regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, Leibnizstr. 18/61, 38678 Clausthal, Germany (Info: finger userinfo:olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Dec 4 08:52:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA22852 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 08:52:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from oitunix.oit.umass.edu (nscs21p5.remote.umass.edu [128.119.179.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA22809 for ; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 08:52:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gp@oitunix.oit.umass.edu) Received: (from gp@localhost) by oitunix.oit.umass.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA36258 for hardware@freebsd.org; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 11:52:13 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gp) Message-ID: <19981204115213.A36131@oit.umass.edu> Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 11:52:13 -0500 From: Greg Pavelcak To: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Opinions on IDE Hard Drives Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Reading several FreeBSD mailing lists gives me the impression that at least some people think IDE drives are just fine for your average user. However, although I have seen specific brands of SCSI drives discussed, I don't recall seeing recommendations on IDE hard drives; hence the purpose of this posting is to solicit your opinions on reliable, fast ide hard drives. With Christmas on the horizon, I just may be able to score some new hardware. Of course, if your view is that IDE is just not worth it, please post as well. Happy Holidays Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Dec 4 09:38:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA29024 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 09:38:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from www1.asacomputers.com ([204.153.176.244]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA29017 for ; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 09:38:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kedar@asacomputers.com) Received: from kedar.asacomputers.com (alan.asacomputers.com [204.153.176.86]) by www1.asacomputers.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA26846; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 09:58:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kedar@asacomputers.com) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19981204173253.01f144e0@gw1> X-Sender: rajadnya@gw1 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 09:32:53 -0800 To: Greg Pavelcak From: Kedar Rajadnya Subject: Re: Opinions on IDE Hard Drives Cc: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >However, although I have seen specific brands of >SCSI drives discussed, I don't recall seeing recommendations on >IDE hard drives; hence the purpose of this posting is to solicit >your opinions on reliable, fast ide hard drives. Hi, You might want to take a look at the Seagate ST39140A, 9.1GB drives. They are 7200rpm drives and UDMA, so you get pretty decent performance. Does anybody have any opinions on this drive? Kedar. Take care, Kedar Rajadnya. ASA Computers, Inc. TEL: (408)232-5999 ext201 FAX:(408)232-5959 ********************************************* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Dec 4 10:29:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA05731 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 10:29:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from aaka.3skel.com (3skel-inch-rtr.3skel.com [207.240.212.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA05722 for ; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 10:29:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from danj@3skel.com) Received: from fnur.3skel.com (fnur.3skel.com [192.168.0.8]) by aaka.3skel.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA14096 for ; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 13:31:37 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from danj@3skel.com) Received: (from danj@localhost) by fnur.3skel.com (8.8.8/8.8.2) id NAA17103 for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 13:29:49 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 13:29:49 -0500 (EST) From: Dan Janowski Message-Id: <199812041829.NAA17103@fnur.3skel.com> To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Does DVD emulate CDROM? Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I understand that FreeBSD does not support DVD functionality, but can it deal with a DVD as a CDROM without a problem? Specifically I am looking at laptops and the good ones now come with DVDs only. Thanks, Dan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Dec 4 11:12:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA09872 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 11:12:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from geo.geocast.net (geo.geocast.net [128.177.240.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA09866 for ; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 11:12:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from castor@geocast.net) Received: from localhost (castor@localhost) by geo.geocast.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA05286; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 11:11:34 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 11:11:33 -0800 (PST) From: Castor Fu To: Kedar Rajadnya cc: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Opinions on IDE Hard Drives In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19981204173253.01f144e0@gw1> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > >However, although I have seen specific brands of > >SCSI drives discussed, I don't recall seeing recommendations on > >IDE hard drives; hence the purpose of this posting is to solicit > >your opinions on reliable, fast ide hard drives. > > Hi, > > You might want to take a look at the Seagate ST39140A, 9.1GB drives. > They are 7200rpm drives and UDMA, so you get pretty decent performance. > Does anybody have any opinions on this drive? I haven't used these, but I noticed that the quoted seek times on these (9.5 ms avg) seem somewhat lower than than the high performance SCSI drives like Seagate's Barracuda 9LP (7.1ms ) Quantum Atlas III (7.8 ms avg) the IBM ultrastar 2XP's (8.5ms). Depending on what you're doing, seek time may be more important than rotational speed. Of course, the IDE drives are cheaper. The Seagate ST39140A seems to come with a SCSI-like 5 year warranty which is a plus. -castor To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Dec 4 14:06:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA27104 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 14:06:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from k6n1.znh.org (dialup19.gaffaneys.com [208.155.161.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA27092 for ; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 14:06:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from zach@gaffaneys.com) Received: (from zach@localhost) by k6n1.znh.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA79876; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 22:05:39 GMT (envelope-from zach) Message-ID: <19981204160539.A79347@znh.org> Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 16:05:39 -0600 From: Zach Heilig To: Dan Janowski , freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Does DVD emulate CDROM? References: <199812041829.NAA17103@fnur.3skel.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <199812041829.NAA17103@fnur.3skel.com>; from Dan Janowski on Fri, Dec 04, 1998 at 01:29:49PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Dec 04, 1998 at 01:29:49PM -0500, Dan Janowski wrote: > I understand that FreeBSD does not support DVD functionality, > but can it deal with a DVD as a CDROM without a problem? > Specifically I am looking at laptops and the good ones > now come with DVDs only. I'm pretty sure I saw a message from JKH offering hardware to anyone who can fix DVD compatibility (some Creative Labs hardware). I have a couple questions as well: Do SCSI DVD players automatically work? I could see a problem with playing DVD movies, but perhaps not reading data. Is that what's meant about a 'cdrom' emulation mode? Since 'cdrecord' supports SCSI-DVD, at least writing a DVD-RAM should work. -- Zach Heilig (zach@gaffaneys.com) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Dec 4 14:12:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA27904 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 14:12:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from k6n1.znh.org (dialup19.gaffaneys.com [208.155.161.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA27895 for ; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 14:12:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from zach@gaffaneys.com) Received: (from zach@localhost) by k6n1.znh.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA79915; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 22:11:51 GMT (envelope-from zach) Message-ID: <19981204161151.B79347@znh.org> Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 16:11:51 -0600 From: Zach Heilig To: Greg Pavelcak , hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Opinions on IDE Hard Drives References: <19981204115213.A36131@oit.umass.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <19981204115213.A36131@oit.umass.edu>; from Greg Pavelcak on Fri, Dec 04, 1998 at 11:52:13AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Dec 04, 1998 at 11:52:13AM -0500, Greg Pavelcak wrote: > Reading several FreeBSD mailing lists gives me the impression > that at least some people think IDE drives are just fine for your > average user. However, although I have seen specific brands of > SCSI drives discussed, I don't recall seeing recommendations on > IDE hard drives; hence the purpose of this posting is to solicit > your opinions on reliable, fast ide hard drives. With Christmas > on the horizon, I just may be able to score some new hardware. > Of course, if your view is that IDE is just not worth it, please > post as well. There are some incompatibilities between the Intel TX chipset and some Seagate IDE drives (only non-UDMA ones last I checked, but that may have changed). I don't recall the list off hand (it's on a seagate webpage), but there is an indirect pointer to it from the 'bcm' motherboard page. You probably could start at 'toms hardware guide', last seen at: http://sysdoc.pair.com/ There might be other compatibilities as well (between different chipsets and different manufactures IDE drives). -- Zach Heilig (zach@gaffaneys.com) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Dec 4 15:49:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA08153 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 15:49:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (ppp3.portal.net.au [202.12.71.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA08134 for ; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 15:49:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA00734; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 15:47:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199812042347.PAA00734@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Greg Pavelcak cc: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Opinions on IDE Hard Drives In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 04 Dec 1998 11:52:13 EST." <19981204115213.A36131@oit.umass.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 15:47:04 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Reading several FreeBSD mailing lists gives me the impression > that at least some people think IDE drives are just fine for your > average user. However, although I have seen specific brands of > SCSI drives discussed, I don't recall seeing recommendations on > IDE hard drives; hence the purpose of this posting is to solicit > your opinions on reliable, fast ide hard drives. With Christmas > on the horizon, I just may be able to score some new hardware. IBM or Seagate. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Dec 4 15:52:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA08481 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 15:52:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from whistle.com (s205m131.whistle.com [207.76.205.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA08471 for ; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 15:52:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from archie@whistle.com) Received: (from smap@localhost) by whistle.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id PAA01839; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 15:50:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from bubba.whistle.com( 207.76.205.7) by whistle.com via smap (V2.0) id xma001835; Fri, 4 Dec 98 15:50:27 -0800 Received: (from archie@localhost) by bubba.whistle.com (8.8.7/8.6.12) id PAA08814; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 15:50:24 -0800 (PST) From: Archie Cobbs Message-Id: <199812042350.PAA08814@bubba.whistle.com> Subject: Re: Does DVD emulate CDROM? In-Reply-To: <199812041829.NAA17103@fnur.3skel.com> from Dan Janowski at "Dec 4, 98 01:29:49 pm" To: danj@3skel.com (Dan Janowski) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 15:50:24 -0800 (PST) Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dan Janowski writes: > I understand that FreeBSD does not support DVD functionality, > but can it deal with a DVD as a CDROM without a problem? > Specifically I am looking at laptops and the good ones > now come with DVDs only. Yes (at least in my case). The CD-ROM functions work fine. I have a Chembook 1100M with the DVD option: http://www.chembook.chemusa.com/chembook/1100/110minfo.html -Archie ___________________________________________________________________________ Archie Cobbs * Whistle Communications, Inc. * http://www.whistle.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Dec 4 16:43:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA14617 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 16:43:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from shadow.spel.com (elevator.cablenet-va.com [208.206.84.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA14608 for ; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 16:43:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mturpin@shadow.spel.com) Received: from localhost (mturpin@localhost) by shadow.spel.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA13413; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 19:49:32 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 19:49:32 -0500 (EST) From: Mark turpin To: Zach Heilig cc: Dan Janowski , freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Does DVD emulate CDROM? In-Reply-To: <19981204160539.A79347@znh.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 4 Dec 1998, Zach Heilig wrote: > On Fri, Dec 04, 1998 at 01:29:49PM -0500, Dan Janowski wrote: > > I understand that FreeBSD does not support DVD functionality, > > but can it deal with a DVD as a CDROM without a problem? > > Specifically I am looking at laptops and the good ones > > now come with DVDs only. > > I'm pretty sure I saw a message from JKH offering hardware to anyone who > can fix DVD compatibility (some Creative Labs hardware). > > I have a couple questions as well: > > Do SCSI DVD players automatically work? I could see a problem with playing > DVD movies, but perhaps not reading data. Is that what's meant about a > 'cdrom' emulation mode? I don't think that you can read the data off a DVD. DVDs use a different file format (UDF) than cds. There is some info on UDF at http://www.osta.org I don't see any problem with reading CDs. Mark ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark Turpin | Consulting - Training - Network Installation Systems Engineer | Main Street Technology Centre | http://www.MainStreetTech.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Dec 4 17:11:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA16569 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 17:11:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA16564 for ; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 17:10:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id LAA16065; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 11:40:22 +1030 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) id LAA06057; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 11:40:20 +1030 (CST) Message-ID: <19981205114020.J603@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 11:40:20 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Greg Pavelcak , hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Opinions on IDE Hard Drives References: <19981204115213.A36131@oit.umass.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <19981204115213.A36131@oit.umass.edu>; from Greg Pavelcak on Fri, Dec 04, 1998 at 11:52:13AM -0500 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Friday, 4 December 1998 at 11:52:13 -0500, Greg Pavelcak wrote: > > Reading several FreeBSD mailing lists gives me the impression > that at least some people think IDE drives are just fine for your > average user. However, although I have seen specific brands of > SCSI drives discussed, I don't recall seeing recommendations on > IDE hard drives; hence the purpose of this posting is to solicit > your opinions on reliable, fast ide hard drives. With Christmas > on the horizon, I just may be able to score some new hardware. > > Of course, if your view is that IDE is just not worth it, please > post as well. When I went looking for IDE drives earlier this year, I based my search on the test results from the German c't magazine, which showed that the IBM DeskStar drives were the fastest in a real-life mix, pushing 10 MB/s. I now have two of the drives (IBM-DHEA-36480 and IBM-DHEA-38451), and I'm certainly happy enough with them. They're much faster than my SCSI drives. Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Dec 4 19:33:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA28037 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 19:33:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from frmug.org (frmug-gw.frmug.org [193.56.58.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA28015 for ; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 19:33:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from roberto@keltia.freenix.fr) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by frmug.org (8.9.1/frmug-2.3/nospam) with UUCP id EAA18319 for hardware@FreeBSD.ORG; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 04:33:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from roberto@keltia.freenix.fr) Received: by keltia.freenix.fr (Postfix, from userid 101) id E19CC14BE; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 02:46:24 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 02:46:24 +0100 From: Ollivier Robert To: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Opinions on IDE Hard Drives Message-ID: <19981205024624.A15135@keltia.freenix.fr> Mail-Followup-To: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG References: <19981204115213.A36131@oit.umass.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.94.16i In-Reply-To: <19981204115213.A36131@oit.umass.edu>; from Greg Pavelcak on Fri, Dec 04, 1998 at 11:52:13AM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT/ELF ctm#4856 AMD-K6 MMX @ 200 MHz Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org According to Greg Pavelcak: > Of course, if your view is that IDE is just not worth it, please > post as well. I don't use IDE disks but based on my experience with IBM SCSI drives, I'd say that their IDE disks are probably good (Deskstar series). It is basically the same mechanics with a different interface. -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! -=- roberto@keltia.freenix.fr FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 3.0-CURRENT #2: Sun Nov 8 01:22:20 CET 1998 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Dec 4 22:58:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA14031 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 22:58:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from icicle.winternet.com (icicle.winternet.com [198.174.169.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA14020 for ; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 22:58:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mestery@mail.winternet.com) Received: (from adm@localhost) by icicle.winternet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA06839; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 00:57:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from tundra.winternet.com(198.174.169.11) by icicle.winternet.com via smap (V2.0) id xma006785; Sat, 5 Dec 98 00:57:15 -0600 Received: from localhost (mestery@localhost) by tundra.winternet.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) with ESMTP id AAA17890; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 00:57:14 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: tundra.winternet.com: mestery owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 00:57:14 -0600 (CST) From: Kyle Mestery To: David Greenman cc: Bill Paul , hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Call for testers for RealTek 8139 driver In-Reply-To: <199811302310.PAA21333@root.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, On Mon, 30 Nov 1998, David Greenman wrote: > >I am seeing something weird. When transfering large files, I can routinely get > >about 1000 KB/s between the two FreeBSD boxes. But, the collision light on my > >hub flashes a lot, which surprised me, since the only traffic on the hub was > >between the two FreeBSD boxes. So, I did a netstat -i on both boxes, and > > Don't worry about that. Slight differences in the speed of the NICs on the > wire (specifically, their ability to send out back-to-back packets) is the > main thing that will affect collisions. The collisions are caused by the > output packets colliding with the TCP ACKs and is quite normal and expected > with half duplex ethernet. > I have had some more time to look into this. I still see collisions when I am displaying Quake back across the wire. Lots of collisions. But the other thing that bothers me is the performance of these cards. I know they are incredibly low-end (for $20, I didn't expect an Intel Etherexpress Pro100/B!), and I have read the driver if_rl.c to see Bill Paul's comments about the chip, but I am seeing pretty terrible performance from my cards. Both cards are id'd as follows: rl0: rev 0x10 int a irq 19 on pci0.15.0 rl0: Ethernet address: 00:e0:7d:01:a5:05 rl0: autoneg complete, link status good (half-duplex, 100Mbps) rl0: rev 0x10 int a irq 19 on pci0.17.0 rl0: Ethernet address: 00:e0:7d:01:a5:07 rl0: autoneg complete, link status good (half-duplex, 100Mbps) The first card is on my dual PPro200 with 128MB RAM, aic7880, all SCSI. The second on is on my dual Pentium 133, 2GB EIDE, 1 GB SCSI on a BT-946c. Both are on a Hawking 10/100 dual speed hub with 10ft cat5 cable connecting them tothe hub. There is also a HP/Apollo running NetBSD on the hub operating at 10Mb/s. The Realtek cards are running at 100Mb/s half-duplex. When I use ftp to transfer a file of size 9.5MB, if I am on the PPro machine, and type `put file`, I get about 1.5MB/s-2.5MB/s, and no collisions on either machine. But, if I type `get file` from the PPro, I get between 4.5-5.5MB/s, and see about 340 collisions on each machine. Is this to be expected because the Pentium is that much slower than the PPro machine with this driver? Is anyone else seeing this type of performance? I remember Bill Paul saying he was seeing 11MB/s with a PII400. How does it scale to what I have is what I am wondering, and if the performance I am seeing is to be expected. -- Kyle Mestery StorageTek's Storage Networking Group To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Dec 5 06:58:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA15048 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 06:58:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from polaris.we.lc.ehu.es (polaris.we.lc.ehu.es [158.227.6.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA15043 for ; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 06:58:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jose@we.lc.ehu.es) Received: from we.lc.ehu.es by polaris.we.lc.ehu.es (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id PAA19352; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 15:58:48 +0100 Message-ID: <36694A28.4395A75E@we.lc.ehu.es> Date: Sat, 05 Dec 1998 15:58:48 +0100 From: "José Mª Alcaide" Organization: Universidad del País Vasco - Dept. Electricidad y Electrónica X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: I cannot "dd" to 640MB MO disk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have just attached a Fujitsu M2513E MO drive to my SCSI chain. The drive identifies itself as an optical device, and the "ahc" driver detects and configures the "od0" device at boot (BTW, I am running 2.2.8-RELEASE, no CAM). These are the boot messages related to SCSI devices: ahc0: target 0 Tagged Queuing Device (ahc0:0:0): "IBM DDRS-34560W S92A" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd0(ahc0:0:0): Direct-Access 4357MB (8925000 512 byte sectors) ahc0:A:4: refuses WIDE negotiation. Using 8bit transfers (ahc0:4:0): "FUJITSU M2513E 0050" type 7 removable SCSI 2 od0(ahc0:4:0): Optical 606MB (310352 2048 byte sectors) ahc0:A:5: refuses WIDE negotiation. Using 8bit transfers (ahc0:5:0): "TOSHIBA CD-ROM XM-6201TA 1030" type 5 removable SCSI 2 cd0(ahc0:5:0): CD-ROM can't get the size There is a 640MB MO disk inserted in the drive while booting FreeBSD. Now I want to label the MO disk in "dangerously dedicated" mode. So I try to kill the partition table using "dd" first: $ dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/rod0 count=2 obs=2048 dd: /dev/rod0: Input/output error 1+0 records in 0+0 records out 0 bytes transferred in 0.001765 secs (0 bytes/sec) And the kernel sends these messages to the console: od0(ahc0:4:0): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:21,0 Logical block address out of range od0(ahc0:4:0): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:21,0 Logical block address out of range od0(ahc0:4:0): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:21,0 Logical block address out of range od0(ahc0:4:0): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:21,0 Logical block address out of range od0: oops not queued I know of problems related to the 2048 byte sector size of 640MB MO disks, but od.4 says: "Currently the od driver accepts 512, 1024 and 2048 byte/sector media. Raw and block mode device access to non-512 byte/sector media would be allowed only on each sector size boundary start position and I/O size". Is this related to my problem? (Note 1: I booted the Windoze partition -ugh- and I could use the 640MB cartridge without any problem: format, transfer files, etc.) (Note 2: I only have cartridges of 640MB size, so I cannot test the drive using cartridges with sectors of 512 bytes.) I would be very grateful for any help. -- JMA ----------------------------------------------------------------------- José Mª Alcaide | mailto:jose@we.lc.ehu.es Universidad del País Vasco | http://www.we.lc.ehu.es/~jose Dpto. de Electricidad y Electrónica | Facultad de Ciencias - Campus de Lejona | Tel.: +34-946012479 48940 Lejona (Vizcaya) - SPAIN | Fax: +34-944858139 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- "Go ahead... make my day." - H. Callahan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Dec 5 10:17:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA28141 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 10:17:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from skynet.ctr.columbia.edu (skynet.ctr.columbia.edu [128.59.64.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA28136 for ; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 10:17:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wpaul@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu) Received: (from wpaul@localhost) by skynet.ctr.columbia.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id NAA16071; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 13:22:29 -0500 From: Bill Paul Message-Id: <199812051822.NAA16071@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu> Subject: Re: Call for testers for RealTek 8139 driver To: mestery@winternet.com (Kyle Mestery) Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 13:22:28 -0500 (EST) Cc: dg@root.com, hardware@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Kyle Mestery" at Dec 5, 98 00:57:14 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world, Kyle Mestery had to walk into mine and say: > Hi, [chop] > On Mon, 30 Nov 1998, David Greenman wrote: > I have had some more time to look into this. I still see collisions when I > am displaying Quake back across the wire. Lots of collisions. But the other > thing that bothers me is the performance of these cards. I know they are > incredibly low-end (for $20, I didn't expect an Intel Etherexpress Pro100/B!), > and I have read the driver if_rl.c to see Bill Paul's comments about the > chip, but I am seeing pretty terrible performance from my cards. Both cards > are id'd as follows: > > rl0: rev 0x10 int a irq 19 on pci0.15.0 > rl0: Ethernet address: 00:e0:7d:01:a5:05 > rl0: autoneg complete, link status good (half-duplex, 100Mbps) > > rl0: rev 0x10 int a irq 19 on pci0.17.0 > rl0: Ethernet address: 00:e0:7d:01:a5:07 > rl0: autoneg complete, link status good (half-duplex, 100Mbps) > > The first card is on my dual PPro200 with 128MB RAM, aic7880, all SCSI. > The second on is on my dual Pentium 133, 2GB EIDE, 1 GB SCSI on a BT-946c. > Both are on a Hawking 10/100 dual speed hub with 10ft cat5 cable connecting > them tothe hub. There is also a HP/Apollo running NetBSD on the hub operating > at 10Mb/s. The Realtek cards are running at 100Mb/s half-duplex. > > When I use ftp to transfer a file of size 9.5MB, if I am on the PPro machine, > and type `put file`, I get about 1.5MB/s-2.5MB/s, and no collisions on either > machine. But, if I type `get file` from the PPro, I get between 4.5-5.5MB/s, > and see about 340 collisions on each machine. Is this to be expected because > the Pentium is that much slower than the PPro machine with this driver? > Is anyone else seeing this type of performance? I remember Bill Paul saying > he was seeing 11MB/s with a PII400. How does it scale to what I have is > what I am wondering, and if the performance I am seeing is to be expected. Well, bear in mind that when I test, I typically just use ttcp to source and receive data; this is not the same as using FTP, because FTP also reads/writes files, which produes extra activity on the system due to the disk controller. So you end up measuring the performance of the NIC and the disks, which is not what you want. The exception to this is if you have enough RAM in the system that your test file fits entirely within the buffer cache: in this case, after you've read or written the file the first time, it will stay in RAM and there will be less disk activity (unless you overwrite it). One test that I sometimes try is to 'get' a file to /dev/null a couple of times. The first time causes the remote host to cache the file so that subsequent retrieval attempts will be able to pull the file right out of the buffer cache so that there will be no disk activity. Getting the file to /dev/null means there will be no activity on the receiving host either. (On Windoze, you can use NUL: instead of /dev/null for the same effect. Unfortunately, you can't 'put' a file to /dev/null: ftpd complains.) Try this: go to ftp.sgi.com:/src/sgi/ttcp and get the file called ttcp.c. Compile it with cc -O -o ttcp ttcp.c (you'll probably get a few compilation warnings, but that's okay). Place a copy on both machines. On one host, do: % ttcp -r > /dev/null On the other, do: % ttcp -s -n1000 -t The -s flag means 'source data' and the -t means 'transmit.' This will cause the one machine to send about 8MB of data back to the first one. When it's done, you should see statistics printed on both sides, including the transfer speed. This will let you generate traffic without also generating disk activity, which will affect the measurements. You can also swap the commands so that the second host becomes the receiver and the first becomes the transmitter. You can also do both at once. You can also increase the number of blocks from 1000 to 10000 or more to increase the duration of the test. I have a single-CPU Pentium 200 machine with 64MB of RAM that I've also been using for testing recently; on this machine, using a driver that does buffer copies, transmit performance is usually somewhere around 8MB/sec. The PII400 is usually much faster than this, possibly because it can simply do bcopy()s much faster. By contrast, when I tested the Macronix driver (which does not require buffer copies) on the same P200 machine, I was able to get around 10.5MB/sec transmit speed. There are a couple of things you might try: 1) The PII 400Mhz machine I have is a Dell PowerEdge 2300/400 with two CPUs. I have noticed that a UP kernel has better transmit speed than an SMP kernel on the same hardware (using the same driver source). I'm not suggesting that you abandon SMP, but it would be interesting to see what happens if you use a UP kernel on these machines, just to see if it makes a difference. 2) The Dell machine has something like 6 PCI slots. If you look at the diagram plastered to the inside of the cover panel, it says that the first four are 'primary' slots, and the last two, which are mixed in among the ISA slots, are 'secondary.' I discovered one day that if I plug a card into one of these secondary slots, it works, but performance is terrible: a card that could transmit at 10MB/sec would suddenly only produce 3MB/sec tops. Moving the card back to one of the first four slots cured the problem. I don't know where you have your cards plugged in, but you might want to try shuffling them to different slots. -Bill -- ============================================================================= -Bill Paul (212) 854-6020 | System Manager, Master of Unix-Fu Work: wpaul@ctr.columbia.edu | Center for Telecommunications Research Home: wpaul@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu | Columbia University, New York City ============================================================================= "It is not I who am crazy; it is I who am mad!" - Ren Hoek, "Space Madness" ============================================================================= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Dec 5 11:32:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA04388 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 11:32:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from skynet.ctr.columbia.edu (skynet.ctr.columbia.edu [128.59.64.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA04334 for ; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 11:31:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wpaul@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu) Received: (from wpaul@localhost) by skynet.ctr.columbia.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id OAA16160 for hardware@freebsd.org; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 14:37:05 -0500 From: Bill Paul Message-Id: <199812051937.OAA16160@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu> Subject: Test request, SMC 1211TX EtherEZ PCI card To: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 14:37:03 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi guys, got a quick favor to ask. SMC has this (relatively) new NIC called the EtherEZ 1211-TX. This is a PCI 10/100 adapter. From what I can tell, I think this board uses a RealTek 8139 or compatible chipset, which means that in theory it should work with the rl driver. However I don't have one to test, so I can't be positive. I think more RealTek boards will still report the RealTek PCI vendor and device ID, however this information is stored in an EEPROM and sometimes vendors will change just to force you to use their particular driver. Anyway, if somebody has one of these cards and a FreeBSD machine and some spare time, I'd appreciate it if you could give it a try with the rl driver. If you've been tracking FreeBSD-current, then you already have the driver in the system, otherwise you can get it fron http://www.freebsd.org/~wpaul/RealTek. It may also be possible to tell right away what chip is on the board just by looking at it, however I don't have a picture of one of these cards so I can't tell myself. The RealTek chips are small, rectangular in shape (as opposed to square) and say RTL8139 or RTL8139A on them. The RealTek logo looks like a crudely drawn crab with its claws raised. If the driver works, please let me know so I can add this card to the supported adapters list. -Bill -- ============================================================================= -Bill Paul (212) 854-6020 | System Manager, Master of Unix-Fu Work: wpaul@ctr.columbia.edu | Center for Telecommunications Research Home: wpaul@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu | Columbia University, New York City ============================================================================= "It is not I who am crazy; it is I who am mad!" - Ren Hoek, "Space Madness" ============================================================================= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Dec 5 21:38:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA21319 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 21:38:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from icicle.winternet.com (icicle.winternet.com [198.174.169.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA21314 for ; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 21:38:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mestery@mail.winternet.com) Received: (from adm@localhost) by icicle.winternet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA28227; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 23:38:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from tundra.winternet.com(198.174.169.11) by icicle.winternet.com via smap (V2.0) id xma028214; Sat, 5 Dec 98 23:38:30 -0600 Received: from localhost (mestery@localhost) by tundra.winternet.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) with ESMTP id XAA24194; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 23:38:29 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: tundra.winternet.com: mestery owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 23:38:29 -0600 (CST) From: Kyle Mestery To: Bill Paul cc: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Call for testers for RealTek 8139 driver In-Reply-To: <199812051822.NAA16071@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, On Sat, 5 Dec 1998, Bill Paul wrote: > Well, bear in mind that when I test, I typically just use ttcp to > source and receive data; this is not the same as using FTP, because > FTP also reads/writes files, which produes extra activity on the system > due to the disk controller. So you end up measuring the performance of > the NIC and the disks, which is not what you want. > Okay, understandable. > Try this: go to ftp.sgi.com:/src/sgi/ttcp and get the file called > ttcp.c. Compile it with cc -O -o ttcp ttcp.c (you'll probably get a > few compilation warnings, but that's okay). Place a copy on both > machines. > > On one host, do: > > % ttcp -r > /dev/null > > On the other, do: > > % ttcp -s -n1000 -t > > The -s flag means 'source data' and the -t means 'transmit.' This > will cause the one machine to send about 8MB of data back to the > first one. When it's done, you should see statistics printed on > both sides, including the transfer speed. This will let you generate > traffic without also generating disk activity, which will affect > the measurements. You can also swap the commands so that the second > host becomes the receiver and the first becomes the transmitter. > You can also do both at once. You can also increase the number of > blocks from 1000 to 10000 or more to increase the duration of the > test. > Okay, I got ttcp and tried using it for performance. What I see now is much more respectable I think. Between the two machines I am seeing about 5-6MB/s. I also have a 3COM 905B in the dual Pentium machine, and using that the rates increase to between 7-8MB/s. So, for now I am using the 905B on that machine at 100Mb/s, and I'll use the Realtek card at 10Mb/s, which it should be fine at. > I have a single-CPU Pentium 200 machine with 64MB of RAM that I've > also been using for testing recently; on this machine, using a > driver that does buffer copies, transmit performance is usually > somewhere around 8MB/sec. The PII400 is usually much faster than > this, possibly because it can simply do bcopy()s much faster. > This would seem to be true. > By contrast, when I tested the Macronix driver (which does not > require buffer copies) on the same P200 machine, I was able to > get around 10.5MB/sec transmit speed. > > There are a couple of things you might try: > > 1) The PII 400Mhz machine I have is a Dell PowerEdge 2300/400 with > two CPUs. I have noticed that a UP kernel has better transmit > speed than an SMP kernel on the same hardware (using the same > driver source). I'm not suggesting that you abandon SMP, but > it would be interesting to see what happens if you use a UP > kernel on these machines, just to see if it makes a difference. > The UP kernel did give me faster transfer rates for some reason, about 1MB/s better I noticed. I am going to try a UP kernel on my PPro machine tonite and see if that one is affected as well. > 2) The Dell machine has something like 6 PCI slots. If you look at > the diagram plastered to the inside of the cover panel, it says > that the first four are 'primary' slots, and the last two, which > are mixed in among the ISA slots, are 'secondary.' I discovered > one day that if I plug a card into one of these secondary slots, > it works, but performance is terrible: a card that could transmit > at 10MB/sec would suddenly only produce 3MB/sec tops. Moving the > card back to one of the first four slots cured the problem. > > I don't know where you have your cards plugged in, but you might > want to try shuffling them to different slots. > On the dual PPro machine, the Realtek card is in a PCI slot, not a shared slot. On the daul Pentium machine, the Realtek card is in a shared slot, but the 3Com 905B is in a PCI only slot. I didn't try moving the Pentium's Realtek card, since I am now going to use the 3Com at 100Mb/s. I think I may swap it with the video card, however, and see if it does give me improved performance. Thanks for the help, I am going to continue to try and see if I can make these cards perform a little better. -- Kyle Mestery StorageTek's Storage Networking Group To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Dec 5 23:25:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA27134 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 23:25:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (ppp5.portal.net.au [202.12.71.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA27128 for ; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 23:25:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA02587; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 22:46:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199812060646.WAA02587@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Bill Paul cc: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Test request, SMC 1211TX EtherEZ PCI card In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 05 Dec 1998 14:37:03 EST." <199812051937.OAA16160@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 05 Dec 1998 22:46:31 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Hi guys, got a quick favor to ask. SMC has this (relatively) new > NIC called the EtherEZ 1211-TX. This is a PCI 10/100 adapter. From > what I can tell, I think this board uses a RealTek 8139 or compatible > chipset, which means that in theory it should work with the rl driver. Er, aren't all the 'TX' boards based on the SMC9432TX part? If so, you want the 'tx' driver. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Dec 5 23:54:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA29468 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 23:54:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ayukawa.aus.org (ayukawa.aus.org [199.166.246.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA29462 for ; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 23:54:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lh@aus.org) Received: from bsd.aus.org (lh@bsd.aus.org [199.166.246.189]) by ayukawa.aus.org (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA13012; Sun, 6 Dec 1998 02:34:51 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199812060734.CAA13012@ayukawa.aus.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3-beta-042198 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) In-Reply-To: <19981204115213.A36131@oit.umass.edu> Date: Sun, 06 Dec 1998 02:53:01 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: lh@aus.org From: Luke To: Greg Pavelcak Subject: RE: Opinions on IDE Hard Drives Cc: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Reading several FreeBSD mailing lists gives me the impression > that at least some people think IDE drives are just fine for your > average user. However, although I have seen specific brands of > SCSI drives discussed, I don't recall seeing recommendations on > IDE hard drives; hence the purpose of this posting is to solicit > your opinions on reliable, fast ide hard drives. With Christmas > on the horizon, I just may be able to score some new hardware. I have SCSI and IDE , and SCSI I like more overall, but there is a dramatic price difference , and despite many troubles with IDE chipsets on motherboards, my normal-rpm Quantum fireball averages 8-10MBytes/second using the iozone port [with file sizes from 70-200MB]. Its also incredibly quiet :) I have several seagate IDEs, 'medalist' and 'decath-something' and some old 420/540 ones, some of the 420s are quite old and have always been in 24hr/day machines, and they still run. they arent loud, but louder than the quantum. I have had 3 maxtor HDs, although none newer , 2 540 ATA-2 PIO 3 ones, and 1 old @200 one. They all work ok, except 1 of the 540s is incredibly loud, and they are all quite loud, but they arent exactly newer models. I think SCSI is better, but my SCSI machine has a 1542 ISA , and everytime I think of getting a 2940UW [which I think would be faster than UDMA-EIDE?] , I realize the card itself could get me another 10MBs 5-8Gb IDE drive. --- E-Mail: Luke Sent by XFMail ---------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message