From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Mar 22 09:51:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA29442 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 09:51:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.trace.com.tw (ronald@mail.trace.com.tw [203.67.189.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA29437 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 09:51:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ronald@mail.trace.com.tw) Received: from localhost (ronald@localhost) by mail.trace.com.tw (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id BAA10517; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 01:24:42 +0800 X-Comments: ****** Message sent through an Trace account ****** X-http: ****** http://www.trace.com.tw ****** Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 01:24:42 +0800 (CST) From: Ronald Wiplinger To: Luiz de Barros cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Internet Telephony Gateway. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 21 Mar 1998, Luiz de Barros wrote: > Dear ALL, > > Does anybody know of an Internet Telephony Gateway like Vocaltec's and > Dialogic's products? > > Luiz Yes, we use one very succssfully, however the driver is for Windows95 or NT. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Mar 22 11:36:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA16222 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 11:36:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bmccane.maxbaud.net ([208.155.166.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA16161 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 11:36:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from news@bmccane.maxbaud.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by bmccane.maxbaud.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) id NAA16959; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 13:34:36 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from news) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 13:34:33 -0600 (CST) From: Wm Brian McCane To: John Hay cc: Martin Jangowski , isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Slooow expires (inn 1.5.1 and 1.7.2.insync1.1d) In-Reply-To: <199803200352.FAA00972@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 20 Mar 1998, John Hay wrote: > > > I think you just went over some limit and now the database isn't > > > handled in RAM anymore but on disk. It might be not enough RAM > > > or the limits in login.conf might be too low or something like > > > that. Try running /usr/bin/limits out of cron the same way your > > > expiry is done and have a look at its output. > > > > I tried this with _lots_ of free memory. After rebuilding the .pag and > > .dir files it used virtual memory. Something in the .dir file was the > > culprit, I think. I was happy to have our newsserver up and running again, > > so I didn't investigate. > > > > The same thing happened twice, and got resolved the same way, I'm fairly > > sure that something in the dbz-files was corrupted. > > Was your limits set high enough? What was the size of your .pag file? > Maybe bigger than what your limits allow you to have in memory? The > reason doing a makehistory help is because it shrink your database > to only the articles you have in your spool. > Actually, my .pag file is only about 9M. I have a very limited feed. Also, I have found the problem. I had *.jobs.* being saved for 8 days, and the directories were 4-5M each. I deleted all files older than 2 days, moved them into new directories (~256 now). And set the expiry for *.jobs.* to 2 days, the expire took 5 minutes 8). Anyway, I have now added various of the *.jobs.* to my filter_innd.pl file, so they don't go to disk any more. We'll see what happens. brian BTW> Next I will add the *.jobs.* to my exclusions in my newsfeeds. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Mar 22 15:45:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA29127 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 15:45:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bmccane.maxbaud.net ([208.155.166.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA29048 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 15:45:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from news@bmccane.maxbaud.net) Received: (from news@localhost) by bmccane.maxbaud.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) id RAA20309 for isp@freebsd.org; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 17:44:16 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from news) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 17:44:16 -0600 (CST) From: News Subsystem Message-Id: <199803222344.RAA20309@bmccane.maxbaud.net> To: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Uppercase characters in logins Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Greetings, I am supporting several mailing lists on my machine. For some reason I cannot send mail to people that have uppercase letters in their login names. They claim they are getting mail from other people, so I assume that my machine is at fault. I am using standard sendmail with basically the standard sendmail.cf (my domain has been added along with the spam rules). Has anyone else seen this? brian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Mar 22 17:05:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA12539 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 17:05:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from firewall.scitec.com.au (firewall-user@fgate.scitec.com.au [203.17.180.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA12534 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 17:05:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from john.saunders@scitec.com.au) Received: by firewall.scitec.com.au; id LAA15868; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 11:05:10 +1000 (EST) Received: from mailhub.scitec.com.au(203.17.180.131) by fgate.scitec.com.au via smap (3.2) id xma015856; Mon, 23 Mar 98 11:05:01 +1000 Received: from hydra.scitec.com.au (hydra.scitec.com.au [203.17.182.101]) by mailhub.scitec.com.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA25706; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 11:04:58 +1000 Received: from scitec.com.au (saruman.scitec.com.au) by hydra.scitec.com.au with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA165455096; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 12:04:56 +1100 Message-Id: <3515B538.459433F0@scitec.com.au> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 12:04:56 +1100 From: John Saunders Organization: SCITEC LIMITED X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: News Subsystem , isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Uppercase characters in logins References: <199803222344.RAA20309@bmccane.maxbaud.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org News Subsystem wrote: > I am supporting several mailing lists on my machine. For some reason > I cannot send mail to people that have uppercase letters in their login > names. They claim they are getting mail from other people, so I assume that > my machine is at fault. I am using standard sendmail with basically the > standard sendmail.cf (my domain has been added along with the spam rules). All (well at least all I know of) mail daemons convert the username to lower case before delivering email into a local mailbox. You should never allow accounts to be created with uppercase letters if you want your system to function normally. Note that when all lowercase letters are used for the account, the email address may have uppercase in it since sendmail will make everything lowercase. Cheers. -- +------------------------------------------------------------+ . | John Saunders mailto:John.Saunders@scitec.com.au (Work) | ,--_|\ | mailto:john@nlc.net.au (Home) | / Oz \ | http://www.nlc.net.au/~john/ | \_,--\_/ | SCITEC LIMITED Phone +61 2 9428 9563 Fax +61 2 9428 9933 | v | "By the time you make ends meet, they move the ends." | +------------------------------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 23 01:11:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA12963 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 01:11:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ovbis01.ovb.ch (ovbis01.ovb.ch [195.65.24.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA12934 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 01:11:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ovb@ovb.ch) Received: from zhwbs-e1-06.limmat.ch [194.191.121.206] by ovbis01.ovb.ch with smtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yH3GI-00038D-00; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 10:11:18 +0100 From: ovb@ovb.ch (Oliver von Bueren) To: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Uppercase characters in logins Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 09:11:17 GMT Organization: private Message-ID: <351c2287.1162742505@mail.ovb.ch> References: <199803222344.RAA20309@bmccane.maxbaud.net> <3515B538.459433F0@scitec.com.au> In-Reply-To: <3515B538.459433F0@scitec.com.au> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id BAA12951 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 23 Mar 1998 12:04:56 +1100, you wrote: >> I am supporting several mailing lists on my machine. For some reason >> I cannot send mail to people that have uppercase letters in their login >> names. They claim they are getting mail from other people, so I assume that >> my machine is at fault. I am using standard sendmail with basically the >> standard sendmail.cf (my domain has been added along with the spam rules). >All (well at least all I know of) mail daemons convert the username to >lower case before delivering email into a local mailbox. You should >never allow accounts to be created with uppercase letters if you want >your system to function normally. Note that when all lowercase letters >are used for the account, the email address may have uppercase in it >since sendmail will make everything lowercase. If it is realy a must to support case sensitive user account names, try using EXIM instead of sendmail. This is a quite powerfull mail agent which supports it, if configured to (not the default). But: it is quite different to configure it compared to sendmail, although I think it is somewhat easier than sendmail. You can get it at ftp://ftp.cus.cam.ac.uk/pub/software/programs/exim, the latest production release is 1.82. There is also a website at http://www.exim.org. Concerning Spam filtering, this mail agent also supports the Realtime Blocking List (RBL) (http://maps.vix.com/rbl/) and can be configured to prevent relaying. Cheers, Oliver /---------------------------------------------------------------------\ ¦ Oliver von Bueren ovb@ovb.ch ¦ ¦ Schlierenstr. 42 www.ovb.ch ¦ ¦ 8142 Uitikon Switzerland ¦ ¦ VoicePhone: ++41-1-4958181 ¦ ¦ Attention: TimeZone GMT+1 -> VoiceCalls only 09.00-21.00 local time ¦ \---------------------------------------------------------------------/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 23 02:03:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA19501 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 02:03:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from isbalham.ist.co.uk (isbalham.ist.co.uk [192.31.26.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA19494 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 02:02:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rb@gid.co.uk) Received: from grimbling ([89.10.0.0]) by isbalham.ist.co.uk (8.8.7/8.8.4) with ESMTP id KAA02792; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 10:01:41 GMT Message-Id: <199803231001.KAA02792@isbalham.ist.co.uk> From: "Bob Bishop" To: Cc: Subject: ISPs within spitting distance of Palo Alto Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 10:03:34 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Apologies for troubling the list with this, but it seemd like a good place to ask the question. A client of ours has an office in Palo Alto and needs a fixed link connexion (T1 or less, they manage with 64k in the UK; I'm not up-to-date with what's available in CA). This would be connexion/routing only, we'd do DNS etc. If anyone reading this could provide such a service, or feels like recommending anyone else, please contact me by email. Thanks -- Bob Bishop +44 118 977 4017 rb@gid.co.uk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 23 06:29:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA22054 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 06:29:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Radford.i-Plus.net (root@NS.i-Plus.net [208.24.67.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA22027 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 06:29:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rewt@i-Plus.net) Received: from abyss (old@b.nu [208.24.67.58]) by Radford.i-Plus.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA14457; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 09:28:12 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <007001bd5668$d3888910$3a4318d0@abyss.b.nu> From: "Troy Settle" To: "Bob Bishop" , Cc: Subject: Re: ISPs within spitting distance of Palo Alto Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 09:34:45 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Unless I'm grossly mistaken, there's a MAE running all over Palo Alto. You pretty much have your choice of providers. For some details on who all is out there, check out www.boardwatch.com -- Troy Settle Network Administrator, iPlus Internet Services http://www.i-Plus.net -----Original Message----- From: Bob Bishop To: freebsd-ISP@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: rb@gid.co.uk Date: Monday, March 23, 1998 5:06 AM Subject: ISPs within spitting distance of Palo Alto >Hi, > >Apologies for troubling the list with this, but it seemd like a good place >to ask the question. > >A client of ours has an office in Palo Alto and needs a fixed link >connexion (T1 or less, they manage with 64k in the UK; I'm not up-to-date >with what's available in CA). This would be connexion/routing only, we'd do >DNS etc. > >If anyone reading this could provide such a service, or feels like >recommending anyone else, please contact me by email. Thanks > >-- >Bob Bishop +44 118 977 4017 >rb@gid.co.uk > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 23 06:37:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA23837 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 06:37:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from breadfruit.seychelles.net (breadfruit.seychelles.net [202.84.227.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA23817 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 06:37:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from muditha@seychelles.net) Received: from Atlas.seychelles.net ([202.84.227.21]) by breadfruit.seychelles.net (8.8.2/8.8.2) with SMTP id OAA13088 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 14:51:34 GMT Message-ID: <35167096.272C@seychelles.net> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 18:24:22 +0400 From: Muditha Reply-To: muditha@seychelles.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Internet Licence Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I know this is nothing to do with Freebsd...even though I run a ISP on Freebsd.....Internet is New to Seychelles and the Government has not much experience in offering licence for Internet. I am interested in seeing some licences offered in other Countries ..ie. the terms and conditions not interested in rates etc but just the sort of terms and conditions...If any of you guys are kind enough please help me out. You can omitt any sections you don't want me to see. Thank you!!! -- --------------------- Muditha Gunatilake Atlas Seychelles Ltd Phone:+248 304060 Fax :+248 324565 email: muditha@seychelles.net mbh3gpa@afs.mcc.ac.uk muditha@creole.seychelles.net :-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 23 06:49:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA25709 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 06:49:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from buffnet4.buffnet.net (buffnet4.buffnet.net [205.246.19.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA25700 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 06:49:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shovey@buffnet.net) Received: from buffnet5.buffnet.net (shovey@buffnet5.buffnet.net [205.246.19.14]) by buffnet4.buffnet.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA14274; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 09:41:04 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 09:40:20 -0500 (EST) From: Steve Hovey To: Muditha cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Internet Licence In-Reply-To: <35167096.272C@seychelles.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org You dont need anything in the US other than to be a legal business. On Mon, 23 Mar 1998, Muditha wrote: > Hi, > > I know this is nothing to do with Freebsd...even though I run a ISP on > Freebsd.....Internet is New to Seychelles and the Government has not > much experience in offering licence for Internet. I am interested in > seeing some licences offered in other Countries ..ie. the terms and > conditions not interested in rates etc but just the sort of terms and > conditions...If any of you guys are kind enough please help me out. You > can omitt any sections you don't want me to see. > > Thank you!!! > -- > --------------------- > Muditha Gunatilake > Atlas Seychelles Ltd > > Phone:+248 304060 > Fax :+248 324565 > email: muditha@seychelles.net > mbh3gpa@afs.mcc.ac.uk > muditha@creole.seychelles.net > :-) > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 23 07:48:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA05885 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 07:48:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from barney.webace.com.au ([203.25.160.154]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA05794; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 07:47:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jasonm@webace.com.au) Received: from jason (jason.webace.com.au [203.25.160.112]) by barney.webace.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA05581; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 00:01:03 +0800 (WST) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19980323154747.0067dbf4@webace.com.au> X-Sender: jasonm@webace.com.au X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 23:47:47 +0800 To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Jason McKay Subject: Squid Cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm using Squid version 1.2.beta14, the only problem I'm having is images from other web sites appearing in my page. For example, AltaVista's 'Search' button image, appeared replacing an image on my web page. As soon as the Squid proxy was turned off in the web browser, everything returned to normal. Here is my Squid proxy config: ttp_port 8080 debug_options ALL,1 acl all src 0.0.0.0/0.0.0.0 acl tocache proto HTTP FTP http_access allow all icp_access allow all cache_mem 40 MB cache_mem_low 75 cache_mem_high 90 cache_swap_low 90 cache_swap_high 95 cache_effective_user squid squid cache_effective_user nobody nogroup cache_dir /drive2/cache 5000 16 25 I would be greatful for any suggestions on solving this problem. Thanks, Jason McKay. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 23 08:33:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA15195 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 08:33:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gatekeeper.tsc.tdk.com (root@gatekeeper.tsc.tdk.com [207.113.159.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA15190 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 08:33:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gdonl@tsc.tdk.com) Received: from sunrise.gv.tsc.tdk.com (root@sunrise.gv.tsc.tdk.com [192.168.241.191]) by gatekeeper.tsc.tdk.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA20620; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 08:32:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gdonl@tsc.tdk.com) Received: from salsa.gv.tsc.tdk.com (salsa.gv.tsc.tdk.com [192.168.241.194]) by sunrise.gv.tsc.tdk.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA09177; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 08:32:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gdonl@localhost) by salsa.gv.tsc.tdk.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA29588; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 08:31:58 -0800 (PST) From: Don Lewis Message-Id: <199803231631.IAA29588@salsa.gv.tsc.tdk.com> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 08:31:58 -0800 In-Reply-To: John Saunders "Re: Uppercase characters in logins" (Mar 23, 12:04pm) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.6 alpha(3) 7/19/95) To: John Saunders , News Subsystem , isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Uppercase characters in logins Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mar 23, 12:04pm, John Saunders wrote: } Subject: Re: Uppercase characters in logins } News Subsystem wrote: } > I am supporting several mailing lists on my machine. For some reason } > I cannot send mail to people that have uppercase letters in their login } > names. They claim they are getting mail from other people, so I assume that } > my machine is at fault. I am using standard sendmail with basically the } > standard sendmail.cf (my domain has been added along with the spam rules). } } All (well at least all I know of) mail daemons convert the username to } lower case before delivering email into a local mailbox. You should } never allow accounts to be created with uppercase letters if you want } your system to function normally. Note that when all lowercase letters } are used for the account, the email address may have uppercase in it } since sendmail will make everything lowercase. This behaviour is controlled by the per-mailer "u" flag in the sendmail configuration file. If you add this flag to the local mailer definition, then usernames on incoming mail addresses will become case sensitive. If the sender doesn't get the case of all the characters in the user name exactly right, the mail will bounce. I suspect this would be a bother if you want to tell someone your email address over the phone, and would be dangerous if you had two users with names spelled the same but capitalized differently ... It sounds to me like problem described above could be caused if the sendmail {smtp,esmtp} mailers (or the prog mailer if that's in the path) are missing the "u" flag. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 23 10:43:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA06311 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 10:43:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mx.calweb.com (mx.calweb.com [208.131.56.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA06285 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 10:43:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rdugaue@calweb.com) Received: by mx.calweb.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id KAA14955; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 10:43:31 -0800 (PST) X-SMTP: helo web1.calweb.com from rdugaue@calweb.com server rdugaue@web1.calweb.com ip 208.131.56.51 Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 10:43:31 -0800 (PST) From: Robert Du Gaue To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: "(ML) FreeBSD ISP" Subject: ISPCON Booth Pricing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Talked to the Con-Manager, Ron Fippinger today. When I told him who we were, he said right off he doesn not know this industry and was hired specifically for the next couple of months to manage the ISPCONs. So I told him a little about FreeBSD and asked him what price could Jack give for some floor space to our group. He didn't bother to check with Jack (nor seemed to care), but just quoted me standard floor space pricing. The pricing is $50 a sq. foot with the smallest space a 10x10 or in otherwords, $5000. Maybe someone that has talked to Jack in the past can query him direct to see if we could get any break. Otherwise, I guess we can start asking for some of the companies here to donate a portion, maybe offering to allow them to put their company brochures with the booth as a 'testimony' of companies that use FreeBSD or even some sort of sign in the background with the companies name. Just a thought. Also, don't forget this is for space only. These things are so Union Controlled that I'm betting more for a table, electrical, chairs. They'd charge for the air you breath if they could get away with it. I have a packet being sent to me, so I'll let you all know of those hidden costs soon as I get them. > > This is a good point - I hadn't factored in the rising costs of these > > things. :) Does anyone know the price of a table? > > I've got a call into the ISPCON guy at Boardwatch. He is still away at the > Baltimore conf, cleaning up I suppose, but will be in next week. I'll > report back what I find out to the list. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 23 13:38:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA15949 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 13:38:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gill.netrail.net (gill.netrail.net [205.215.10.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA15889; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 13:37:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jonz@netrail.net) Received: from localhost (jonz@localhost) by gill.netrail.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id QAA23466; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 16:37:52 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 16:37:51 -0500 (EST) From: "Jonathan A. Zdziarski" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Today's SNAP Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I haven't heard anything back at all about this so I thought I would ask again (after looking further for more information that I did not find). Is today's snap of 3.0 include a working SMP Kernel? Thank you, Jonathan A. Zdziarski Systems Administrator Netrail Incorporated 888-NETRAIL jonz@netrail.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 23 15:55:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA17224 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 15:55:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from clifford.inch.com (omar@clifford.inch.com [207.240.140.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA17207 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 15:55:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from omar@clifford.inch.com) Received: (from omar@localhost) by clifford.inch.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA06478; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 18:53:10 -0500 Message-ID: <19980323185309.50508@clifford.inch.com> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 18:53:09 -0500 From: Omar Thameen To: Jim Mock Cc: Paul Stewart , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Web Based Email References: <199803161757.JAA19236@smtp.triax.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.81 In-Reply-To: <199803161757.JAA19236@smtp.triax.com>; from Jim Mock on Mon, Mar 16, 1998 at 09:58:51AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 12:10 PM 3/16/98 -0500, Paul Stewart wrote: >Hi there... sorry if this has been covered before... > >We are looking for a simple yet powerful package that allows email access >for both writing and reading via the web? We have a secure server running >on the web server which we would also like to utilize. There's also a program called dmailweb made by the folks at http://www.netwinsite.com We run their news server, dnews, and have been thoroughly pleased with the performance. -- Omar Thameen Systems Administration The Internet Channel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 23 18:10:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA11013 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 18:10:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from packfish.gateway.net.hk (qmailr@packfish.gateway.net.hk [202.76.19.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA11005 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 18:10:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from john@gateway.net.hk) Received: (qmail 13247 invoked by uid 101); 24 Mar 1998 02:10:19 -0000 Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:10:19 +0800 (HKT) From: John Beukema X-Sender: john@packfish.gateway.net.hk To: Muditha cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Internet Licence In-Reply-To: <35167096.272C@seychelles.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 23 Mar 1998, Muditha wrote: > Hi, > > I know this is nothing to do with Freebsd...even though I run a ISP on > Freebsd.....Internet is New to Seychelles and the Government has not > much experience in offering licence for Internet. I am interested in > seeing some licences offered in other Countries ..ie. the terms and > conditions not interested in rates etc but just the sort of terms and > conditions...If any of you guys are kind enough please help me out. You > can omitt any sections you don't want me to see. > > Thank you!!! > -- > --------------------- > Muditha Gunatilake > Atlas Seychelles Ltd > > Phone:+248 304060 > Fax :+248 324565 > email: muditha@seychelles.net > mbh3gpa@afs.mcc.ac.uk > muditha@creole.seychelles.net > :-) > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > Check out http://www.oln-law.com/isplaw.html for an overview on Hong Kong licensing. John Beukema To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 24 06:59:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA07278 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 06:59:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.actrix.gen.nz (root@mail.actrix.gen.nz [203.96.16.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA07247 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 06:59:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andrew@squiz.co.nz) Received: from [192.168.1.1] (a.mcn.actrix.gen.nz [203.96.56.128]) by mail.actrix.gen.nz (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id CAA03885; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 02:58:48 +1200 (NZST) X-Sender: squiz1@pop.actrix.gen.nz Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 03:00:42 +1200 To: muditha@seychelles.net, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: andrew@squiz.co.nz (Andrew McNaughton) Subject: Re: Internet Licence Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Hi, > >I know this is nothing to do with Freebsd...even though I run a ISP on >Freebsd.....Internet is New to Seychelles and the Government has not >much experience in offering licence for Internet. I am interested in >seeing some licences offered in other Countries ..ie. the terms and >conditions not interested in rates etc but just the sort of terms and >conditions...If any of you guys are kind enough please help me out. You >can omitt any sections you don't want me to see. > >Thank you!!! I think China licences internet users. Probably Burma also. In countries where the internet is not considered a political threat, all that is needed is a service contract with another ISP to provide you with a connection. In New Zealand there is a Voluntary Code of Practice which has been set up amongst ISP's. You may find it useful. http://www.isocnz.org.nz/code.htm You cna find information on the terms under which ISP's (including backbone providers) offer services by looking around the home pages of those organizations. Andrew McNaughton DISCLAIMER: The Entire Physical Universe, Including Andrew McNaughton This Message, May One Day Collapse Back into an ++64 4 389 6891 Infinitesimally Small Space. Should Another Universe andrew@squiz.co.nz Subsequently Re-emerge, the Validity of Statements http://www.squiz.co.nz in This Message Cannot Be Guaranteed. http://www.newsroom.co.nz To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 24 09:44:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA27976 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 09:44:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from anna.cs.ru.lv (root@anna.cs.ru.lv [159.148.235.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA27877 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 09:44:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vic@cs.ru.lv) Received: from cs.ru.lv ([159.148.235.60]) by anna.cs.ru.lv (8.8.8/X.Y.Z) with ESMTP id TAA00857 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 19:44:11 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <3517F0E5.FFF37869@cs.ru.lv> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 19:44:05 +0200 From: Victor Meirans X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Rackmount modems Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, It's not a FreeBSD question, but "FreeBSD ISP" one.. :) I am looking for good and reliable rackmount modem chassis. Wich could be prefferable? And how about prices? Thanks in advance for any advice... WBW, ---> Vic <--- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 24 10:32:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA07583 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:32:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ccsales.ccsales.com (ccsales.ccsales.com [207.137.172.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA07571 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:32:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from randyk@ccsales.com) Received: from ccsales.ccsales.com (ccsales.ccsales.com [207.137.172.4]) by ccsales.ccsales.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA04899; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:38:06 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:38:06 -0800 (PST) From: Randy Katz To: Victor Meirans cc: "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Rackmount modems In-Reply-To: <3517F0E5.FFF37869@cs.ru.lv> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org If you're looking for analog the Microcom chassis are VERY reliable IMHO. I've got a bank going that saves me 1-4 hours every month because I've NEVER rebooted or turned the thing off since I turned it on (about 1 year).!!!!!!!!! Thanx, Randy Katz On Tue, 24 Mar 1998, Victor Meirans wrote: > Hi, > > It's not a FreeBSD question, but "FreeBSD ISP" one.. :) > > I am looking for good and reliable rackmount modem chassis. > Wich could be prefferable? And how about prices? > > Thanks in advance for any advice... > > WBW, > ---> Vic <--- > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > RAK ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Randy A. Katz Computer Consultation & Sales 505 S. Beverly Drive, Suite 472 Beverly Hills, CA 90212 (213) 307-9581 http://www.ccsales.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 24 12:10:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA23889 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 12:10:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mx.calweb.com (mx.calweb.com [208.131.56.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA23841 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 12:10:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rdugaue@calweb.com) Received: by mx.calweb.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id MAA21995; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 12:07:59 -0800 (PST) X-SMTP: helo web2.calweb.com from rdugaue@calweb.com server rdugaue@web2.calweb.com ip 208.131.56.52 Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 12:07:59 -0800 (PST) From: Robert Du Gaue To: Randy Katz cc: Victor Meirans , "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Rackmount modems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Yes, I have to agree. We have used 2 chassis with 60 modems in each for quite sometime and they by far are the most cost effective rack solution we've found. The ads Microcom run about this product quote me too. :-) However, we've recently migrated to digital for all but one POP, so I have one complete 60 modem chassis for sale, and will shortly have the other one probably for sale as well. Email me direct if interest! On Tue, 24 Mar 1998, Randy Katz wrote: > Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:38:06 -0800 (PST) > From: Randy Katz > To: Victor Meirans > Cc: "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" > Subject: Re: Rackmount modems > > If you're looking for analog the Microcom chassis are VERY reliable IMHO. > I've got a bank going that saves me 1-4 hours every month because I've > NEVER rebooted or turned the thing off since I turned it on (about 1 > year).!!!!!!!!! > > Thanx, > Randy Katz > > > On Tue, 24 Mar 1998, Victor Meirans wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > It's not a FreeBSD question, but "FreeBSD ISP" one.. :) > > > > I am looking for good and reliable rackmount modem chassis. > > Wich could be prefferable? And how about prices? > > > > Thanks in advance for any advice... > > > > WBW, > > ---> Vic <--- > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > RAK > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Randy A. Katz > Computer Consultation & Sales > 505 S. Beverly Drive, Suite 472 Beverly Hills, CA 90212 > (213) 307-9581 http://www.ccsales.com > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Robert Du Gaue - rdugaue@calweb.com http://www.calweb.com President, CalWeb Internet Services Inc. (916) 641-9320 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 24 15:43:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA21127 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 15:43:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from absinthe.i3inc.com (Absinthe.Stonos.Washington.DC.US [209.31.147.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA21119 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 15:43:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris@absinthe.i3inc.com) Received: (from chris@localhost) by absinthe.i3inc.com (8.7.2/8.7.2) id RAA15947; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 17:42:10 -0500 (EST) To: "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Running sendmail queue upon connection? From: Chris Shenton Date: 24 Mar 1998 17:42:09 -0500 In-Reply-To: Victor Meirans's message of Tue, 24 Mar 1998 19:44:05 +0200 Message-ID: <87yaxzzp6m.fsf@absinthe.i3inc.com> Lines: 37 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 20.2 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I support a site which is increasing the number of customers who want to have their LAN connect up to the ISP and suck down mail accumulated at the ISP and then feed to their users by their LAN mail system. These folks don't have a nailed-up connection due to cost -- the connect maybe once an hour. They are not routing to their LAN or anything fancy. So I have a fixed IP address assigned to them on the comm server, associate that with a name in the DNS, and MX the domain to their connecting machine with lower-precedence MX to my ISP mail server. This way mail sent to them queues up on the server until they connect. Problem is when they connect, I don't know how to get them to signal sendmail to run the queue and flush mail to them. My current hack is to have root run a cron job every 5 minutes or so which tells sendmail with option switches to flush the queue to the customer's domain. Problems: * cpu hog -- most of the time the customer won't be connected * customer must stay connected at least 5 minutes (length between cron runs) * doesn't scale to dozens of customers. I thought there was a ESMTP command which a client would run to trigger this behavior. Problems: * what command is this? I can't find it in the O'Reilly book; or am I delusional and just imagining it? * Most customers are probably gonna use NT Exchange; how do you configure it to play nice with real SMTP servers and issue this command? * What prevents a random person from connecting and flushing someone else's queue to them, thus stealing their mail? Any pointers appreciated. How do you guys do it? Thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 24 15:51:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA22319 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 15:51:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from caladan.tdx.co.uk (caladan.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA22279 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 15:51:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) Received: from tdx.co.uk (lorca-tx.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.242]) by caladan.tdx.co.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA20417; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 23:51:26 GMT (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) Message-ID: <351846FE.BE749C57@tdx.co.uk> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 23:51:26 +0000 From: Karl Pielorz Organization: TDX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Shenton CC: "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Running sendmail queue upon connection? References: <87yaxzzp6m.fsf@absinthe.i3inc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org We do a similar thing here using the ETRN command of sendmail - this allows a remote site to tell sendmail to run the queue for a particular host/domain... If you have the source on your BSD system look at /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/contrib/etrn.pl - which is a perl script that you could probably tack onto that customers login script etc. Versions on exist for NT and other platforms - try hunting around with altavista.digital.com ;-) Regards, Karl Pielorz Chris Shenton wrote: > [snip] > > Problem is when they connect, I don't know how to get them to signal > sendmail to run the queue and flush mail to them. > > [snip] > > Any pointers appreciated. How do you guys do it? > > Thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 24 15:55:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA23044 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 15:55:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from coleridge.kublai.com (coleridge.kublai.com [207.96.1.116]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA23021 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 15:55:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shmit@natasya.kublai.com) Received: from natasya.kublai.com (natasya.kublai.com [207.172.25.236]) by coleridge.kublai.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA18490; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 18:54:51 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from shmit@natasya.kublai.com) Received: (from shmit@localhost) by natasya.kublai.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA19292; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 18:54:51 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19980324185450.24183@erols.com> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 18:54:50 -0500 From: Brian Cully To: Chris Shenton Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Running sendmail queue upon connection? Reply-To: shmit@erols.com Mail-Followup-To: Chris Shenton , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org References: <87yaxzzp6m.fsf@absinthe.i3inc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <87yaxzzp6m.fsf@absinthe.i3inc.com>; from Chris Shenton on Tue, Mar 24, 1998 at 05:42:09PM -0500 X-Sender: If your mailer pays attention to this, it's broken. X-PGP-Info: finger shmit@kublai.com for my public key. Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Mar 24, 1998 at 05:42:09PM -0500, Chris Shenton wrote: > I thought there was a ESMTP command which a client would run to > trigger this behavior. Problems: > > * what command is this? I can't find it in the O'Reilly book; or am I > delusional and just imagining it? ETRN > * Most customers are probably gonna use NT Exchange; how do you > configure it to play nice with real SMTP servers and issue this command? Haven't got a clue. I believe Outlook Express handles ETRN, however. > * What prevents a random person from connecting and flushing someone > else's queue to them, thus stealing their mail? It flushes to the highest priority MX, so you need to point the highest priority MX at their mail server (unless that's down, in which case it goes to the next highest, and so on). ETRN essentially runs 'sendmail -q' to flush mail, thus it'll only go to the wrong server if their higher priority MX addresses are misconfigured. -- Brian Cully ``And when one of our comrades was taken prisoner, blindfolded, hung upside-down, shot, and burned, we thought to ourselves, `These are the best experiences of our lives''' -Pathology (Joe Frank, Somewhere Out There) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 24 16:03:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA24567 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:03:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from firewall.scitec.com.au (firewall-user@fgate.scitec.com.au [203.17.180.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA24480 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:03:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from john.saunders@scitec.com.au) Received: by firewall.scitec.com.au; id KAA29916; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:03:39 +1000 (EST) Received: from mailhub.scitec.com.au(203.17.180.131) by fgate.scitec.com.au via smap (3.2) id xma029910; Wed, 25 Mar 98 10:03:36 +1000 Received: from hydra.scitec.com.au (hydra.scitec.com.au [203.17.182.101]) by mailhub.scitec.com.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id KAA14772 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:03:34 +1000 Received: from scitec.com.au (saruman.scitec.com.au) by hydra.scitec.com.au with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA243034213; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 11:03:33 +1100 Message-Id: <351849D6.89C7C14@scitec.com.au> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 11:03:34 +1100 From: John Saunders Organization: SCITEC LIMITED X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Attack for wuftpd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I was just attacked by somebody issuing a LIST /*/../*/../*/../*/.../* command which caused ftpd to use up all CPU on the server and thrash the disk. I have a limit on anonymous ftps so they could only get several of these going. Has anybody heard about this, or better yet know of a patch to fix it? Cheers. -- +------------------------------------------------------------+ . | John Saunders mailto:John.Saunders@scitec.com.au (Work) | ,--_|\ | mailto:john@nlc.net.au (Home) | / Oz \ | http://www.nlc.net.au/~john/ | \_,--\_/ | SCITEC LIMITED Phone +61 2 9428 9563 Fax +61 2 9428 9933 | v | "By the time you make ends meet, they move the ends." | +------------------------------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 24 19:39:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA23915 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 19:39:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gjp.erols.com (alex-va-n008c243.moon.jic.com [206.156.18.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA23899 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 19:39:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gjp@gjp.erols.com) Received: from gjp.erols.com (localhost.erols.com [127.0.0.1]) by gjp.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA22777; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 22:39:17 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gjp@gjp.erols.com) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: shmit@erols.com cc: Chris Shenton , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: Running sendmail queue upon connection? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 24 Mar 1998 18:54:50 EST." <19980324185450.24183@erols.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 22:39:17 -0500 Message-ID: <22773.890797157@gjp.erols.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Brian Cully wrote in message ID <19980324185450.24183@erols.com>: > ETRN essentially runs 'sendmail -q' to flush mail, thus > it'll only go to the wrong server if their higher priority MX addresses > are misconfigured. sendmail -qR, of course :) Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 24 21:39:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA11106 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 21:39:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bsd.megaworks.com (bsd.megaworks.com [209.50.84.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA11100 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 21:39:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@club-web.com) Received: from elmo (ppp-147.m2-11.tor.ican.net [142.154.18.147]) by bsd.megaworks.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA09505; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 00:39:44 -0500 (EST) From: "Mark Segal" To: "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" , "Chris Shenton" Subject: Re: Running sendmail queue upon connection? Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 00:36:44 -0500 Message-ID: <01bd57af$ff11eca0$0201010a@elmo> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > >I thought there was a ESMTP command which a client would run to >trigger this behavior. Problems: there is a command built into sendmail as a result of RFC1985 (i think, and if not somone willl for sure correct me on this list :). I had this running with one of my clients using Slmail 2.2 (i think). Basically what i'm trying to get at in a convoluted sort of way is, if SLmail can do it so can NT exchange.. in SLmail it was called a smarthost (ie my mail queueing server) and basically all it did was forced the NT box to connect and then send a "etrn " to the sendmail daemon. and presto. So it, is possible.. just check the NT exchenge server help files under "ETRN" Mark To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 25 01:18:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA05508 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 01:18:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from caladan.tdx.co.uk (caladan.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA05501 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 01:18:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) Received: from tdx.co.uk (lorca-tx.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.242]) by caladan.tdx.co.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA21348 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:18:12 GMT (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) Message-ID: <3518CBD4.96896C2D@tdx.co.uk> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:18:12 +0000 From: Karl Pielorz Organization: TDX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ipfw logging... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Is there anyway with ipfw of it logging _all_ failed packets? - I have an ipfw config with a few specific 'log' entries in it, e.g. deny log any from 1.2.3.4 to 3.4.5.6 For really nasty things like external telnets to the box (even though the list is implicit deny) But I'd really like to see _ALL_ the failed packets logged - I'm thinking of adding a really high numbered rule (just 'above' the default rule) that says: deny log ip from any to any Is this going to work? - (I might have to increased the kernel's IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT I guess)... Anyone else have any comments? Regards, Karl Pielorz To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 25 02:15:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA13493 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 02:15:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from panda.hilink.com.au (panda.hilink.com.au [203.8.15.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA13488 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 02:15:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from danny@panda.hilink.com.au) Received: (from danny@localhost) by panda.hilink.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA03629; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 21:15:24 +1100 (EST) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 21:15:23 +1100 (EST) From: "Daniel O'Callaghan" To: Karl Pielorz cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ipfw logging... In-Reply-To: <3518CBD4.96896C2D@tdx.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 25 Mar 1998, Karl Pielorz wrote: > adding a really high numbered rule (just 'above' the default rule) that > says: > > deny log ip from any to any Yes. This will work. Just add it as rule 65534. /* Daniel O'Callaghan */ /* HiLink Internet danny@hilink.com.au */ /* FreeBSD - works hard, plays hard... danny@freebsd.org */ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 25 02:21:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA14189 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 02:21:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from caladan.tdx.co.uk (caladan.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA14178 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 02:21:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) Received: from tdx.co.uk (lorca-tx.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.242]) by caladan.tdx.co.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA22615; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:21:29 GMT (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) Message-ID: <3518DAA9.6068487E@tdx.co.uk> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:21:29 +0000 From: Karl Pielorz Organization: TDX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Daniel O'Callaghan" CC: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ipfw logging... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thanks for the Reply! Does ipfw log to syslog? - I seem to remember seeing something about this in the past, but looking through my /var/log/messages - it seems devoid of all ipfw logging... :-( (My /etc/syslog.conf only has one line: *.* /var/log/messages As we split out all the various logs from the 1 file...) Regards, Karl Daniel O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Wed, 25 Mar 1998, Karl Pielorz wrote: > > > adding a really high numbered rule (just 'above' the default rule) that > > says: > > > > deny log ip from any to any > > Yes. This will work. Just add it as rule 65534. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 25 02:26:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA14868 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 02:26:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from caladan.tdx.co.uk (caladan.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA14863 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 02:26:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) Received: from tdx.co.uk (lorca-tx.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.242]) by caladan.tdx.co.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA22777 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:26:37 GMT (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) Message-ID: <3518DBDD.79E76018@tdx.co.uk> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:26:37 +0000 From: Karl Pielorz Organization: TDX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Kernel sysctl... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org While looking through the sysctl's I found the one: net.inet.ip.redirect=1 Does this mean what I think it does? (i.e. that the kernel will honour icmp redirects?) - Our firewall drops all sourcerouted packets etc. - but is there anything wrong with setting this to '0' as well? (just to be sure)? I guess if I do this I'm going to have to make sure each box knows about the network (at the moment they actually do get ICMP redirects from our default router - telling them where the different bits of our subnetted network are... :-( Also: net.inet.ip.sourceroute=0 I presume means the kernel will also drop source-routed packets? (as well as our ipfw blocking them?) Is there any way of setting this in the Kernel at compile time (I've looked around in LINT to no avail... :-( Were running 2.2.5-R... Regards, Karl Pielorz To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 25 05:51:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA10632 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 05:51:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from chain.freebsd.os.org.za (ZeXulK5bwKtTAmPhvhblItRwRtkZD2xb@chain.freebsd.os.org.za [196.7.74.174]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA10623 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 05:51:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from khetan@chain.freebsd.os.org.za) Received: from localhost (khetan@localhost) by chain.freebsd.os.org.za (8.8.8+3.0Wbeta13/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA22664 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:51:26 +0200 (SAT) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:51:26 +0200 (SAT) From: Khetan Gajjar X-Sender: khetan@chain Reply-To: Khetan Gajjar To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: DHCP server giving out "wrong" addresses Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi. I've just setup isc-dhcp2 for my network, and am having problems with the hostnames that are being given out. My problem is specifically with Win95 boxes (that's all I've tried it on). If I specify a hostname in the Control Panel, Networks, Identification tab, then it uses that as a prefix to the domain, and _doesn't_ use the official DNS name; silly Windows boxen :-( i.e if I call the machine test1, and the IP address it's given resolves to working, it'll say that it's test1.freebsd.os.org.za, and not working.freebsd.os.org.za as it should. This is highly irritating. Here's my DHCP config file. subnet xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx netmask xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx { option routers xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx; option domain-name-servers xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx, xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx; option domain-name "freebsd.os.org.za"; option broadcast-address xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx; option subnet-mask xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx; get-lease-hostnames on; use-host-decl-names on; range xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx; } I tried get-lease-hostnames and use-host-decl-names out of sheer frustration, but it didn't work. Any ideas/solutions ? A search of the isc site (which has a link to some mailing lists, but doesn't allow you to view them) and questions didn't help. TIA. --- Khetan Gajjar (!kg1779) khetan@iafrica.com (w); khetan@os.org.za (h) http://www.os.org.za/~khetan | Finger: khetan@chain.freebsd.os.org.za UUNET Internet Africa Support | FreeBSD enthusiast-www2.za.freebsd.org A computer without Microsoft and Intel is like chocolate cake without tomato sauce and mustard To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 25 08:04:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA29811 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 08:04:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA29782 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 08:04:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nash@Jupiter.Mcs.Net) Received: from Jupiter.Mcs.Net (nash@Jupiter.mcs.net [192.160.127.88]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.8.7/8.8.2) with ESMTP id KAA29915; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:04:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (nash@localhost) by Jupiter.Mcs.Net (8.8.7/8.8.2) with SMTP id KAA06844; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:04:08 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:04:07 -0600 (CST) From: Alex Nash To: Karl Pielorz cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ipfw logging... In-Reply-To: <3518CBD4.96896C2D@tdx.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 25 Mar 1998, Karl Pielorz wrote: > Is this going to work? - (I might have to increased the kernel's > IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT I guess)... Don't forget, you can change this limit on the fly with: sysctl -w net.inet.ip.fw.verbose_limit=X where X is your new limit (and a value of 0 means unlimited). Alex To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 25 08:09:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA00994 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 08:09:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA00988 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 08:09:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nash@Jupiter.Mcs.Net) Received: from Jupiter.Mcs.Net (nash@Jupiter.mcs.net [192.160.127.88]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.8.7/8.8.2) with ESMTP id KAA00331; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:09:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (nash@localhost) by Jupiter.Mcs.Net (8.8.7/8.8.2) with SMTP id KAA06953; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:09:25 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:09:25 -0600 (CST) From: Alex Nash To: Karl Pielorz cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ipfw logging... In-Reply-To: <3518DAA9.6068487E@tdx.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 25 Mar 1998, Karl Pielorz wrote: > Does ipfw log to syslog? - I seem to remember seeing something about this in > the past, but looking through my /var/log/messages - it seems devoid of all > ipfw logging... :-( ipfw will not log packets if sysctl net.inet.ip.fw.verbose is 0. Alex To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 25 11:12:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA11638 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 11:12:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from whistle.com (s205m131.whistle.com [207.76.205.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA11631 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 11:12:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from archie@whistle.com) Received: (from smap@localhost) by whistle.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id LAA04347; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 11:11:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from bubba.whistle.com(207.76.205.7) by whistle.com via smap (V1.3) id sma004342; Wed Mar 25 11:11:39 1998 Received: (from archie@localhost) by bubba.whistle.com (8.8.7/8.6.12) id LAA15671; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 11:11:39 -0800 (PST) From: Archie Cobbs Message-Id: <199803251911.LAA15671@bubba.whistle.com> Subject: Re: ipfw logging... In-Reply-To: <3518DAA9.6068487E@tdx.co.uk> from Karl Pielorz at "Mar 25, 98 10:21:29 am" To: kpielorz@tdx.co.uk (Karl Pielorz) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 11:11:39 -0800 (PST) Cc: danny@panda.hilink.com.au, isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Karl Pielorz writes: > Does ipfw log to syslog? - I seem to remember seeing something about this in > the past, but looking through my /var/log/messages - it seems devoid of all > ipfw logging... :-( > > (My /etc/syslog.conf only has one line: > > *.* /var/log/messages Try adding this to /etc/syslog.conf: !ipfw *.* /var/log/ipfw This should log all ipfw stuff into that file separetely. You must create the file and SIGHUP syslogd first of course. -Archie ___________________________________________________________________________ Archie Cobbs * Whistle Communications, Inc. * http://www.whistle.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 25 11:45:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA16540 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 11:45:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dt050n33.san.rr.com (@dt050n33.san.rr.com [204.210.31.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA16535 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 11:45:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Studded@san.rr.com) Received: from san.rr.com (Studded@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dt050n33.san.rr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA00200; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 11:45:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Studded@san.rr.com) Message-ID: <35195EC2.4506F2DB@san.rr.com> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 11:45:06 -0800 From: Studded Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.6-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Archie Cobbs CC: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ipfw logging... References: <199803251911.LAA15671@bubba.whistle.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Archie Cobbs wrote: > Try adding this to /etc/syslog.conf: > > !ipfw > *.* /var/log/ipfw This doesn't work. IPFW logs to the kernel facility, although I wouldn't mind seeing an option to change that. :) Doug -- *** Chief Operations Officer, DALnet IRC network *** *** Proud operator, designer and maintainer of the world's largest *** Internet Relay Chat server. 5,328 clients and still growing. *** Try spider.dal.net on ports 6662-4 (Powered by FreeBSD) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 25 11:55:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA19292 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 11:55:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from whistle.com (s205m131.whistle.com [207.76.205.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA19281 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 11:55:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from archie@whistle.com) Received: (from smap@localhost) by whistle.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id LAA05266; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 11:55:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from bubba.whistle.com(207.76.205.7) by whistle.com via smap (V1.3) id sma005257; Wed Mar 25 11:54:57 1998 Received: (from archie@localhost) by bubba.whistle.com (8.8.7/8.6.12) id LAA15909; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 11:54:57 -0800 (PST) From: Archie Cobbs Message-Id: <199803251954.LAA15909@bubba.whistle.com> Subject: Re: ipfw logging... In-Reply-To: <35195EC2.4506F2DB@san.rr.com> from Studded at "Mar 25, 98 11:45:06 am" To: Studded@san.rr.com (Studded) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 11:54:57 -0800 (PST) Cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Studded writes: > Archie Cobbs wrote: > > Try adding this to /etc/syslog.conf: > > > > !ipfw > > *.* /var/log/ipfw > > This doesn't work. IPFW logs to the kernel facility, although I > wouldn't mind seeing an option to change that. :) Yeah.. we do this on the InterJet and I forgot it was a custom hack. Try the following patch to syslogd.c and see if that helps. If so, I'll file the patch in a send-pr bug. -Archie ___________________________________________________________________________ Archie Cobbs * Whistle Communications, Inc. * http://www.whistle.com *** syslogd.c Mon Mar 9 05:56:07 1998 --- /usr/prod/ia/whistle/bin/syslogd/syslogd.c Wed Nov 26 15:37:39 1997 *************** *** 537,544 **** int c, pri, flags; char *lp, *p, *q, line[MAXLINE + 1]; ! (void)strcpy(line, bootfile); ! (void)strcat(line, ": "); lp = line + strlen(line); for (p = msg; *p != '\0'; ) { flags = SYNC_FILE | ADDDATE; /* fsync file after write */ --- 464,477 ---- int c, pri, flags; char *lp, *p, *q, line[MAXLINE + 1]; ! /* See if kernel has provided a "program" prefix already */ ! for (p = msg; *p && isalnum(*p); p++); ! if (*p == ':' && (p - msg) < MAXLINE) { ! *line = 0; /* Use kernel's prefix */ ! } else { ! (void)strcpy(line, bootfile); /* Prefix with bootfile name */ ! (void)strcat(line, ": "); ! } lp = line + strlen(line); for (p = msg; *p != '\0'; ) { flags = SYNC_FILE | ADDDATE; /* fsync file after write */ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 25 13:41:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA09998 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 13:41:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns1.cioe.com (ns1.cioe.com [204.120.165.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA09986 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 13:41:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from steve@ns1.cioe.com) Received: (from root@localhost) by ns1.cioe.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) id QAA05177 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 16:41:09 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 16:41:09 -0500 (EST) From: Steve Ames Message-Id: <199803252141.QAA05177@ns1.cioe.com> To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Radius & simultaneous users Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Anyone know of a way to set how many times a person can be authenticated (simultaneously) with RADIUS? I'm sure its possible to construct a list of users who have connected (but not disconnected) internally... I just want to make sure that the functioanlity does not already exist before re-inventing the wheel... -Steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 25 13:53:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA11131 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 13:53:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from merit.edu (merit.edu [198.108.1.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA11125 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 13:53:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from web@merit.edu) Received: from ohm.merit.edu (ohm.merit.edu [198.108.60.65]) by merit.edu (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA06306; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 16:53:04 -0500 (EST) From: William Bulley Received: (web@localhost) by ohm.merit.edu (8.6.9/8.6.5) id QAA29721; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 16:54:07 -0500 Message-Id: <199803252154.QAA29721@ohm.merit.edu> Subject: Re: Radius & simultaneous users To: steve@ns1.cioe.com (Steve Ames) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 16:54:06 -0500 (EST) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199803252141.QAA05177@ns1.cioe.com> from "Steve Ames" at Mar 25, 98 04:41:09 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org According to Steve Ames: > > Anyone know of a way to set how many times a person can be > authenticated (simultaneously) with RADIUS? I'm sure its > possible to construct a list of users who have connected > (but not disconnected) internally... > > I just want to make sure that the functioanlity does not > already exist before re-inventing the wheel... The Merit AAA Server has long had this capability (maybe for over three years?) however it is not present in our "basic" server which is freely available (and even in the ports collection!). Instead we license what we call our enhanced Merit AAA Server which has this feature. Look at: http://www.merit.edu/aaa/ for information about both versions. Regards, web... -- William Bulley Senior Systems Research Programmer Merit Network, Inc. Email: web@merit.edu 4251 Plymouth Road, Suite C Phone: (734) 764-9993 Ann Arbor, Michigan 48105-2785 Fax: (734) 647-3185 [ Reuters, London, February 29, 1998: Scientists have announced discovering ] [ a meteorite which will strike the earth in March, 2028. Millions of UNIX ] [ coders expressed relief for being spared the UNIX epoch "crisis" of 2038. ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 25 14:06:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA15483 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 14:06:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns1.cioe.com (ns1.cioe.com [204.120.165.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA15462 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 14:06:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from steve@ns1.cioe.com) Received: (from root@localhost) by ns1.cioe.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) id RAA05550; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 17:06:47 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 17:06:47 -0500 (EST) From: Steve Ames Message-Id: <199803252206.RAA05550@ns1.cioe.com> To: steve@ns1.cioe.com, web@merit.edu Subject: Re: Radius & simultaneous users Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199803252154.QAA29721@ohm.merit.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Anyone know of a way to set how many times a person can be > > authenticated (simultaneously) with RADIUS? I'm sure its > > possible to construct a list of users who have connected > > (but not disconnected) internally... > > > > I just want to make sure that the functioanlity does not > > already exist before re-inventing the wheel... > > The Merit AAA Server has long had this capability (maybe > for over three years?) however it is not present in our > "basic" server which is freely available (and even in the > ports collection!). Instead we license what we call our > enhanced Merit AAA Server which has this feature. Look at: > > http://www.merit.edu/aaa/ > > for information about both versions. Sounds good... so what's the license fee and does it run under FreeBSD? The Merit in the ports is _OLD_... kinda sad. -Steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 25 14:20:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA19901 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 14:20:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from makai.maui.net (makai.maui.net [206.154.205.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA19895 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 14:20:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from langfod@makai.maui.net) Received: (from langfod@localhost) by makai.maui.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) id MAA18179; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 12:20:09 -1000 (HST) Message-Id: <199803252220.MAA18179@makai.maui.net> Subject: Re: Radius & simultaneous users In-Reply-To: <199803252206.RAA05550@ns1.cioe.com> from Steve Ames at "Mar 25, 98 05:06:47 pm" To: steve@ns1.cioe.com (Steve Ames) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 12:20:09 -1000 (HST) Cc: steve@ns1.cioe.com, web@merit.edu, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: "David Langford" X-blank-line: This space intentionaly left blank. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31H (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >> The Merit AAA Server has long had this capability (maybe >> for over three years?) however it is not present in our >> "basic" server which is freely available (and even in the >> ports collection!). Instead we license what we call our >> enhanced Merit AAA Server which has this feature. Look at: >> >> http://www.merit.edu/aaa/ >> >> for information about both versions. > >Sounds good... so what's the license fee and does it run under >FreeBSD? The Merit in the ports is _OLD_... kinda sad. > > -Steve About $10,000 more than the "basic" server. Kinda puts it out of the ball park of anyone but the really really big boys. Personally I think it was a conspiracy by said "big boys"[1] to keep economical radius software away from the populace and make them buy their own products. -David Langford [1] no gender bias intended here. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 25 14:24:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA21136 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 14:24:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns1.cioe.com (ns1.cioe.com [204.120.165.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA21075 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 14:23:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from steve@ns1.cioe.com) Received: (from root@localhost) by ns1.cioe.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) id RAA05851; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 17:23:53 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 17:23:53 -0500 (EST) From: Steve Ames Message-Id: <199803252223.RAA05851@ns1.cioe.com> To: langfod@dihelix.com Subject: Re: Radius & simultaneous users Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199803252220.MAA18179@makai.maui.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > >> ports collection!). Instead we license what we call our > >> enhanced Merit AAA Server which has this feature. Look at: > >> > >> http://www.merit.edu/aaa/ > >> > >> for information about both versions. > > > >Sounds good... so what's the license fee and does it run under > >FreeBSD? The Merit in the ports is _OLD_... kinda sad. > > > About $10,000 more than the "basic" server. Kinda puts it out of the ball > park of anyone but the really really big boys. Ouch! The same feature set can be had on NT for much less. That really depresses me when something on NT is less pricey than the same features on BSD. *sigh* So other than Merit... what're the options to handle Simultaneous logins? -Steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 25 14:37:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA23103 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 14:37:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bulloch.net (bull.bulloch.net [208.147.166.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA23075 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 14:36:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mele@bulloch.net) Received: from bulloch.net (dial-153.bulloch.net [208.147.166.196] (may be forged)) by bulloch.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA04856; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 17:31:15 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mele@bulloch.net) Message-ID: <3519B166.2073C1E7@bulloch.net> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 17:37:42 -0800 From: "Melvin C. Etheridge" Organization: Bulloch Telephone Co X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steve Ames CC: langfod@dihelix.com, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Radius & simultaneous users References: <199803252223.RAA05851@ns1.cioe.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------2F27619A739D68E5380FC1AB" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------2F27619A739D68E5380FC1AB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have a package that uses a radius that has a sessions feature in the 'users' file. You set the sessions=0 for unlimited and sessions=x for the number of simultanieous sessions you want an individual to have. It came with URIBS a accounting/billing/authorization pkg I got from bess.net Mel Steve Ames wrote: > > >> ports collection!). Instead we license what we call our > > >> enhanced Merit AAA Server which has this feature. Look at: > > >> > > >> http://www.merit.edu/aaa/ > > >> > > >> for information about both versions. > > > > > >Sounds good... so what's the license fee and does it run under > > >FreeBSD? The Merit in the ports is _OLD_... kinda sad. > > > > > About $10,000 more than the "basic" server. Kinda puts it out of the ball > > park of anyone but the really really big boys. > > Ouch! The same feature set can be had on NT for much less. That > really depresses me when something on NT is less pricey than the > same features on BSD. *sigh* > > So other than Merit... what're the options to handle Simultaneous > logins? > > -Steve > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message --------------2F27619A739D68E5380FC1AB Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="vcard.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Melvin C. Etheridge Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="vcard.vcf" begin: vcard fn: Melvin C. Etheridge n: Etheridge;Melvin C. org: Bulloch Net, Inc. adr: 603 Northside Drive West;;;Statesboro;GA;30458;USA email;internet: mele@bulloch.net title: Network Systems Eng tel;work: 912-764-3748 (Analog) tel;fax: 912-489-3442 (ISDN) tel;home: 912-764-9875 (ISDN x-mozilla-cpt: ;0 x-mozilla-html: FALSE version: 2.1 end: vcard --------------2F27619A739D68E5380FC1AB-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 25 15:03:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA26711 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:03:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns1.cioe.com (ns1.cioe.com [204.120.165.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA26706 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:03:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from steve@ns1.cioe.com) Received: (from root@localhost) by ns1.cioe.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) id SAA06536; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 18:03:27 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 18:03:27 -0500 (EST) From: Steve Ames Message-Id: <199803252303.SAA06536@ns1.cioe.com> To: mele@bulloch.net, steve@ns1.cioe.com Subject: Re: Radius & simultaneous users Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, langfod@dihelix.com In-Reply-To: <3519B166.2073C1E7@bulloch.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ESVA RADIUS. Just FTPd the package and took a look at it. Its a drop in replacement for livingston 1.16... Just might fit the bill. ftp://ftp.esva.net/pub/ -Steve > I have a package that uses a radius that has a sessions feature in the 'users' > file. > > You set the sessions=0 for unlimited and sessions=x for the number of > simultanieous sessions you want an individual to have. > > It came with URIBS a accounting/billing/authorization pkg I got from bess.net > > Mel > > Steve Ames wrote: > > > > >> ports collection!). Instead we license what we call our > > > >> enhanced Merit AAA Server which has this feature. Look at: > > > >> > > > >> http://www.merit.edu/aaa/ > > > >> > > > >> for information about both versions. > > > > > > > >Sounds good... so what's the license fee and does it run under > > > >FreeBSD? The Merit in the ports is _OLD_... kinda sad. > > > > > > > About $10,000 more than the "basic" server. Kinda puts it out of the ball > > > park of anyone but the really really big boys. > > > > Ouch! The same feature set can be had on NT for much less. That > > really depresses me when something on NT is less pricey than the > > same features on BSD. *sigh* > > > > So other than Merit... what're the options to handle Simultaneous > > logins? > > > > -Steve > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > --------------2F27619A739D68E5380FC1AB > Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="vcard.vcf" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Content-Description: Card for Melvin C. Etheridge > Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="vcard.vcf" > > begin: vcard > fn: Melvin C. Etheridge > n: Etheridge;Melvin C. > org: Bulloch Net, Inc. > adr: 603 Northside Drive West;;;Statesboro;GA;30458;USA > email;internet: mele@bulloch.net > title: Network Systems Eng > tel;work: 912-764-3748 (Analog) > tel;fax: 912-489-3442 (ISDN) > tel;home: 912-764-9875 (ISDN > x-mozilla-cpt: ;0 > x-mozilla-html: FALSE > version: 2.1 > end: vcard > > > --------------2F27619A739D68E5380FC1AB-- > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 25 17:03:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA14577 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 17:03:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from granite.sentex.net (granite.sentex.ca [199.212.134.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA14567 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 17:03:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from gravel-remoteh.sentex.ca (gravel-remoteh.sentex.ca [207.245.212.157]) by granite.sentex.net (8.8.6/8.6.9) with SMTP id UAA15131; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 20:03:07 -0500 (EST) From: mike@sentex.net (Mike Tancsa) To: kpielorz@tdx.co.uk (Karl Pielorz) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ipfw logging... Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 00:51:35 GMT Message-ID: <3519a5fa.216519718@mail.sentex.net> References: <3518DAA9.6068487E@tdx.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <3518DAA9.6068487E@tdx.co.uk> X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99e/32.227 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:21:29 +0000, in sentex.lists.freebsd.misc you wrote: >Thanks for the Reply! > >Does ipfw log to syslog? - I seem to remember seeing something about this in >the past, but looking through my /var/log/messages - it seems devoid of all >ipfw logging... :-( > >(My /etc/syslog.conf only has one line: > >*.* /var/log/messages For the Kernel, something like options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE options "IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=10000" options IPFIREWALL options IPDIVERT In /etc/syslog.conf kern.* /var/log/kernel (dont forget to tab separate the lines) then touch /var/log/kernel kill -1 the syslogd pid. ---Mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 26 04:23:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA26675 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 04:23:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from merit.edu (merit.edu [198.108.1.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA26668 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 04:23:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from web@merit.edu) Received: from ohm.merit.edu (ohm.merit.edu [198.108.60.65]) by merit.edu (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA16102; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 07:23:12 -0500 (EST) From: William Bulley Received: (web@localhost) by ohm.merit.edu (8.6.9/8.6.5) id HAA00530; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 07:24:14 -0500 Message-Id: <199803261224.HAA00530@ohm.merit.edu> Subject: Re: Radius & simultaneous users To: steve@ns1.cioe.com (Steve Ames) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 07:24:14 -0500 (EST) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199803252206.RAA05550@ns1.cioe.com> from "Steve Ames" at Mar 25, 98 05:06:47 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org According to Steve Ames: > > Sounds good... so what's the license fee and does it run under > FreeBSD? The Merit in the ports is _OLD_... kinda sad. All the license information is on our WWW pages at: http://www.merit.edu/aaa/ and more. Yes, it runs under most every UNIX variant including FreeBSD. I haven't yet gotten our management to consider FreeBSD worthy of "official" support but that may change. We do have a FreeBSD box on our test bed network, which is a good first step... :-) I realize that the ports Merit AAA Server is ancient, but I don't know how to affect that change, sigh... :-( Regards, web... -- William Bulley Senior Systems Research Programmer Merit Network, Inc. Email: web@merit.edu 4251 Plymouth Road, Suite C Phone: (734) 764-9993 Ann Arbor, Michigan 48105-2785 Fax: (734) 647-3185 [ Reuters, London, February 29, 1998: Scientists have announced discovering ] [ a meteorite which will strike the earth in March, 2028. Millions of UNIX ] [ coders expressed relief for being spared the UNIX epoch "crisis" of 2038. ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 26 04:29:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA27302 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 04:29:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from merit.edu (merit.edu [198.108.1.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA27296 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 04:29:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from web@merit.edu) Received: from ohm.merit.edu (ohm.merit.edu [198.108.60.65]) by merit.edu (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA16163; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 07:29:52 -0500 (EST) From: William Bulley Received: (web@localhost) by ohm.merit.edu (8.6.9/8.6.5) id HAA00570; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 07:30:54 -0500 Message-Id: <199803261230.HAA00570@ohm.merit.edu> Subject: Re: Radius & simultaneous users To: langfod@dihelix.com (David Langford) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 07:30:54 -0500 (EST) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199803252220.MAA18179@makai.maui.net> from "David Langford" at Mar 25, 98 12:20:09 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org According to David Langford: > > About $10,000 more than the "basic" server. Kinda puts it out of the ball > park of anyone but the really really big boys. That figure is for the enhanced source, we also have binary releases but not for FreeBSD (yet) -- not for technical, but management, reasons. The two code bases are very close. We charge a license fee for the "supported" software which has more features, but we also have the "basic" version which is our committment to the betterment of the net. > Personally I think it was a conspiracy by said "big boys"[1] to keep > economical radius software away from the populace and make them buy > their own products. No, we charge that fee to defray our support costs and keep our team together. If you have a bone to pick about the fee structure, maybe dropping a line to aaa-license@merit.edu would get some sort of reply. Who knows, maybe "they" would work out a deal for some set of "givens". Regards, web... -- William Bulley Senior Systems Research Programmer Merit Network, Inc. Email: web@merit.edu 4251 Plymouth Road, Suite C Phone: (734) 764-9993 Ann Arbor, Michigan 48105-2785 Fax: (734) 647-3185 [ Reuters, London, February 29, 1998: Scientists have announced discovering ] [ a meteorite which will strike the earth in March, 2028. Millions of UNIX ] [ coders expressed relief for being spared the UNIX epoch "crisis" of 2038. ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 26 05:15:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA03107 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 05:15:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from buffnet4.buffnet.net (buffnet4.buffnet.net [205.246.19.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA03097 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 05:14:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shovey@buffnet.net) Received: from buffnet11.buffnet.net (buffnet11.buffnet.net [205.246.19.55]) by buffnet4.buffnet.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA24777; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 08:07:36 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 08:07:35 -0500 (EST) From: Steve Hovey To: William Bulley cc: Steve Ames , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Radius & simultaneous users In-Reply-To: <199803261224.HAA00530@ohm.merit.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I use merit here (we have approx 500 lines that utilize it) under freebsd 2.2.5 - and it works great! It will occationally lock up and race cpu cycles if left running - so I have it in the inetd.conf, and I have a cron job that kills it off every so often so that a new copy is invoked. We have a mix of ascends and usr total controls so I needed something that would allow both boxes to work of the same radius. On Thu, 26 Mar 1998, William Bulley wrote: > According to Steve Ames: > > > > Sounds good... so what's the license fee and does it run under > > FreeBSD? The Merit in the ports is _OLD_... kinda sad. > > All the license information is on our WWW pages at: > > http://www.merit.edu/aaa/ > > and more. Yes, it runs under most every UNIX variant > including FreeBSD. I haven't yet gotten our management > to consider FreeBSD worthy of "official" support but > that may change. We do have a FreeBSD box on our test > bed network, which is a good first step... :-) > > I realize that the ports Merit AAA Server is ancient, > but I don't know how to affect that change, sigh... :-( > > Regards, > > web... > > -- > William Bulley Senior Systems Research Programmer > Merit Network, Inc. Email: web@merit.edu > 4251 Plymouth Road, Suite C Phone: (734) 764-9993 > Ann Arbor, Michigan 48105-2785 Fax: (734) 647-3185 > > [ Reuters, London, February 29, 1998: Scientists have announced discovering ] > [ a meteorite which will strike the earth in March, 2028. Millions of UNIX ] > [ coders expressed relief for being spared the UNIX epoch "crisis" of 2038. ] > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > ------------------------------------------------------------------ Steve Hovey Chief Engineer BuffNET More Than Just a Connection! ------------------------------------------------------------------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 26 13:18:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA25790 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 13:18:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pinky.junction.net (pinky.junction.net [199.166.227.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA25783 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 13:18:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from michael@memra.com) Received: from sidhe.memra.com (sidhe.memra.com [199.166.227.105]) by pinky.junction.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id NAA14916 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 13:18:43 -0800 Received: from localhost (michael@localhost) by sidhe.memra.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA23280 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 13:17:25 -0800 Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 13:17:24 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Dillon To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Ellipse - a new anonymous ftp server implementation (fwd) Message-ID: Organization: Memra Software Inc. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Anyone tried this? crdom.com??? ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 22:37:14 +0900 (JST) From: ikuo@ellipse.org To: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Ellipse - a new anonymous ftp server implementation Hi all, We are very grad to announce an alpha release of the `Ellipse' which is a new anonymous ftp server implementation. A few Ellipse processes (one is the master and others are pre-forked processes) can handle a lot of ftp clients at a same time. So, it requires less memory or process resources to serve a large number of ftp sessions. Ellipse is designed to serve ANONYMOUS ftp services only. So it is VERY SECURE. For example, it calls chroot system call and leaves from any privilege mode before accepting connections. IPv6 extensions, such as LPRT, LPSV are also supported. We tested IPv6 extensions with INRIA and Hydrangea. For more details, see http://www.ellipse.org/ or README in a distribution. The newest distribution can be found in: ftp://ftp.ellipse.org/pub/net/ellipse Best regards, Ikuo Nakagawa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 26 14:20:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA02129 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:20:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from shell6.ba.best.com (jkb@shell6.ba.best.com [206.184.139.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA02121 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:20:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkb@best.com) Received: from localhost (jkb@localhost) by shell6.ba.best.com (8.8.8/8.8.BEST) with SMTP id OAA19480; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:19:48 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: shell6.ba.best.com: jkb owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:19:45 -0800 (PST) From: Jan Koum X-Sender: jkb@shell6.ba.best.com To: Michael Dillon cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Ellipse - a new anonymous ftp server implementation (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello Michael, cdrom.com actually runs a custom version of ftp daemon hacked^H^H^H^H^H written by David Greenman: 530-(220 wcarchive.cdrom.com FTP server (Version DG-2.0.12 Tue Mar 24 ^^^^ Why bother with something untested (new, alpha and secure on one line?) I would also consider it a spam to nanog list, since I am confused as to what ftp daemons have to do with routers and internet backbones? But inet-access would be much more appropriate (if they allow such announcements at all) Cheers, -- Yan Jan Koum jkb@best.com | "Turn up the lights; I don't want www.FreeBSD.org -- The Power to Serve | to go home in the dark." On Thu, 26 Mar 1998, Michael Dillon wrote: > >Anyone tried this? crdom.com??? > >---------- Forwarded message ---------- >Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 22:37:14 +0900 (JST) >From: ikuo@ellipse.org >To: nanog@merit.edu >Subject: Ellipse - a new anonymous ftp server implementation > >Hi all, > >We are very grad to announce an alpha release of the `Ellipse' >which is a new anonymous ftp server implementation. > >A few Ellipse processes (one is the master and others are >pre-forked processes) can handle a lot of ftp clients at a >same time. So, it requires less memory or process resources >to serve a large number of ftp sessions. > >Ellipse is designed to serve ANONYMOUS ftp services only. >So it is VERY SECURE. For example, it calls chroot system >call and leaves from any privilege mode before accepting >connections. > >IPv6 extensions, such as LPRT, LPSV are also supported. We >tested IPv6 extensions with INRIA and Hydrangea. > >For more details, see > > http://www.ellipse.org/ > >or README in a distribution. The newest distribution can >be found in: > > ftp://ftp.ellipse.org/pub/net/ellipse > >Best regards, > >Ikuo Nakagawa > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 26 14:36:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA03755 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:36:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from implode.root.com (implode.root.com [198.145.90.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA03748 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:36:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from root@implode.root.com) Received: from implode.root.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by implode.root.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA26925; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:36:17 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199803262236.OAA26925@implode.root.com> To: Michael Dillon cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Ellipse - a new anonymous ftp server implementation (fwd) In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 26 Mar 1998 13:17:24 PST." From: David Greenman Reply-To: dg@root.com Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:36:17 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Anyone tried this? crdom.com??? No, we run our own home-grown version. -DG David Greenman Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 26 16:09:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA17560 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 16:09:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dt050n33.san.rr.com (@dt050n33.san.rr.com [204.210.31.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA17553; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 16:09:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Studded@dal.net) Received: from dal.net (Studded@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dt050n33.san.rr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA14428; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:58:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Studded@dal.net) Message-ID: <351AEB8A.AA206918@dal.net> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:58:02 -0800 From: Studded Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.6-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jesse Walters CC: chat@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: BAndwidth Utilization Log References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jesse Walters wrote: > > I am looking for a program to keep accurate records of bandwidth > used by a customer on a t1 so we can bill them accordingly. MRTG is ok, > but it only keeps averages not the actual total. Any suggestions? If there's a freebsd box involved ipfw could easily be used to keep an accounting record. I'm also cc'ing this to the ISP list since you're more likely to get an informed response from them. Good luck, Doug -- *** Chief Operations Officer, DALnet IRC network *** *** Proud operator, designer and maintainer of the world's largest *** Internet Relay Chat server. 5,328 clients and still growing. *** Try spider.dal.net on ports 6662-4 (Powered by FreeBSD) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 26 16:55:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA25679 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 16:55:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.trace.com.tw (root@mail.trace.com.tw [203.67.189.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA25668 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 16:55:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ronald@trace.net.tw) Received: from ronald.trace.com.tw (ronald@ronald.trace.com.tw [203.67.189.30]) by mail.trace.com.tw (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id IAA10265 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 08:27:06 +0800 Message-Id: <199803270027.IAA10265@mail.trace.com.tw> X-Comments: ****** Message sent through an Trace account ****** X-http: ****** http://www.trace.com.tw ****** From: "Ronald Wiplinger" To: "FreeBSD-isp" Date: Fri, 27 Mar 98 08:57:49 +0800 Reply-To: "Ronald Wiplinger" X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Multi port Ethernet card Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Has anybody a multi port Ethernet card in use and can so say for sure it is working with FreeBSD (and for BSDi ???) I want to build a smart hub, where I want to use as much as possible of such ports, and the old quad router card from Etinc for the 64k connections. I also want to limit the bandwidth for each port. Is there a software available? bye Ronald Wiplinger Gen. Manager of Wang's Trace Technology Co., Ltd. (Taiwan: Taipei, Touyuan, Taichong, Kaohsiung) Tel: +886 2 2609-0652, Handy: +886 932 251430, Fax: +886 2 2600-0132 Interphone (G.723.1 as e.g., used in Netmeeting): 203.67.189.35 http://www.trace.net.tw To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 26 18:10:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA05080 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 18:10:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from panda.hilink.com.au (panda.hilink.com.au [203.8.15.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA04967; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 18:10:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from danny@panda.hilink.com.au) Received: (from danny@localhost) by panda.hilink.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA07776; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 13:09:50 +1100 (EST) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 13:09:50 +1100 (EST) From: "Daniel O'Callaghan" To: Studded cc: Jesse Walters , chat@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: BAndwidth Utilization Log In-Reply-To: <351AEB8A.AA206918@dal.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Jesse Walters wrote: > > > > I am looking for a program to keep accurate records of bandwidth > > used by a customer on a t1 so we can bill them accordingly. MRTG is ok, > > but it only keeps averages not the actual total. Any suggestions? You can do it by passing the data through a freebsd box and using ipfw, or by eavesdropping using bpf. ipfw is nice in that it is easy to determine the direction of the traffic. It really depends on your setup. Danny To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 27 03:47:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA12553 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 03:47:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.keyworld.net (root@mail.keyworld.net [194.21.164.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA12547 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 03:47:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from psycho@keyworld.net) Received: from chrism (ppp75.keyworld.net [194.21.164.138]) by mail.keyworld.net (8.8.5/8.8.4) with ESMTP id MAA04147; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 12:43:05 +0100 Message-Id: <199803271143.MAA04147@mail.keyworld.net> From: "Christopher Martin at Home" To: "Ronald Wiplinger" , "FreeBSD-isp" Cc: Subject: Re: Multi port Ethernet card and Bandwidth Management Techniques Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 12:45:54 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is very important for ISPs and I hope to receive some good feedback from this forum. Emerging technologies have got a Bandwidth Management Software. Costs around 500 USD per interface and each licence is coded to the ethernet address of the interface. Why don't you have a look at the http://www.etinc.com page? It is ET-BWMGR. Have installed it and am currently using it. It also has a burst manager, but we have not really had the timeto experiment and I have some serious doubts about how much thought bandwidth management solution providers are putting into the requirements of ISPs. Amongst the issues that are not addressed are: 1. Why drop packets when the retransmissions may cause greater problems and result in a negative effect on customers using bandwidth right to the limits of their contracts? 2. Usually demand is much greater than the available bandwidth. So there are going to be collisions anyway. 3. Has anyone thought about the need of limiting tcp sessions on permanent connection contracts? BT do it. 4. Has anyone thought about the need of limiting bandwidth per port? There is a lot of talk but experience is that much is in beta to the third! :-) Has anyone used Aponet's ABM-10/100 (http://www.aponet.com) or the Packeteer from Packeteer Inc.? I would greatly appreciate if we could use this as a forum for discussing bandwdith management techniques. It is still a very novel thing, but being ISPs using packet switching tech, we do not really go ATM and QOS etc from Cisco is still quite new. Any suggestions, experiences, things to avoid or look out for? Chris ---------- > From: Ronald Wiplinger > To: FreeBSD-isp > Subject: Multi port Ethernet card > Date: Friday, March 27, 1998 1:57 AM > > Has anybody a multi port Ethernet card in use and can so say for sure it is working with FreeBSD (and for > BSDi ???) > > I want to build a smart hub, where I want to use as much as possible of such ports, and the old quad router > card from Etinc for the 64k connections. > > I also want to limit the bandwidth for each port. Is there a software available? > > bye > > Ronald Wiplinger > Gen. Manager of Wang's Trace Technology Co., Ltd. > (Taiwan: Taipei, Touyuan, Taichong, Kaohsiung) > Tel: +886 2 2609-0652, Handy: +886 932 251430, Fax: +886 2 2600-0132 > Interphone (G.723.1 as e.g., used in Netmeeting): 203.67.189.35 > http://www.trace.net.tw > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 27 15:39:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA15063 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 15:39:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from chain.freebsd.os.org.za (g1FR5tDEA9OaxSAbvyX0lAsPx/RKEOU4@chain.freebsd.os.org.za [196.7.74.174]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA15050 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 15:39:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from khetan@chain.freebsd.os.org.za) Received: from localhost (khetan@localhost) by chain.freebsd.os.org.za (8.8.8+3.0Wbeta13/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA07558 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 01:39:30 +0200 (SAT) Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 01:39:30 +0200 (SAT) From: Khetan Gajjar X-Sender: khetan@chain Reply-To: Khetan Gajjar To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: SMTP to NNTP gateway Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi. I'm looking for a SMTP to NNTP gateway program. I've tried to use newsgate (man, it's far too complicated, and is quite dependent on INN) and Paul Vixie's mailpost script (included in newsgate), but neither of them appear to work nicely with DNews. Does anybody have any other pointers/suggestions ? TIA. --- Khetan Gajjar (!kg1779) khetan@iafrica.com (w); khetan@os.org.za (h) http://www.os.org.za/~khetan | Finger: khetan@chain.freebsd.os.org.za UUNET Internet Africa Support | FreeBSD enthusiast-www2.za.freebsd.org A computer without Microsoft and Intel is like chocolate cake without tomato sauce and mustard To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 27 18:18:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA12038 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 18:18:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ms1.ttn.com.tw (ms1.ttn.com.tw [203.66.150.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA12015; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 18:17:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jonahkuo@mail.ttn.com.tw) Received: from mail.ttn.com.tw (cs1p10.txg.ttn.net.tw [203.70.179.42]) by ms1.ttn.com.tw (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA26990; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 10:17:03 +0800 (CST) Message-ID: <351C5E68.63E23860@mail.ttn.com.tw> Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 10:20:25 +0800 From: Jonah Kuo Reply-To: jonahkuo@mail.ttn.com.tw X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd mailing list CC: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: mpd, freebsd-3.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, there I'm setting up mpd1.0b4 on my FreeBSD-3.0 box. I made one bundle with one link work, but I have no success on one bundle two links, any hints? Further question, does mpd support option -alias like user mode ppp? I've heard that win98 supports multilink which can be shared by other win98 boxes in same local network, is that true? Jonah To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Mar 28 04:07:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA10046 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 04:07:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from caladan.tdx.co.uk (caladan.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA10041 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 04:07:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) Received: from tdx.co.uk (lorca-tx.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.242]) by caladan.tdx.co.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA15395 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 12:07:54 GMT (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) Message-ID: <351CE81A.D4ED97AC@tdx.co.uk> Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 12:07:54 +0000 From: Karl Pielorz Organization: TDX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Problems with lists... (off topic) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I know this isn't the place, but I'm currently subscribe to isp, hardware, hackers and questions... I get about 8-10 messages from the ISP list per day, and none from any of the others... - Are they still working? I've mailed owner-majordomo@freebsd.org, and the list owners - but to no avail... Output of a 'which' command sent to majordomo@freebsd.org, shows my address subscribed to the 4 lists... Can anyone shed any light on this? - It's been like it for about a month now... :-( Regards, Karl Pielorz To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Mar 28 19:05:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA19560 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 19:05:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA19539; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 19:04:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jmb) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Message-Id: <199803290304.TAA19539@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Problems with lists... (off topic) In-Reply-To: <351CE81A.D4ED97AC@tdx.co.uk> from Karl Pielorz at "Mar 28, 98 12:07:54 pm" To: kpielorz@tdx.co.uk (Karl Pielorz) Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 19:04:56 -0800 (PST) Cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Karl Pielorz wrote: > I know this isn't the place, but I'm currently subscribe to isp, hardware, > hackers and questions... I get about 8-10 messages from the ISP list per > day, and none from any of the others... - Are they still working? > > I've mailed owner-majordomo@freebsd.org, and the list owners - but to no > avail... Output of a 'which' command sent to majordomo@freebsd.org, shows my > address subscribed to the 4 lists... Can anyone shed any light on this? - > It's been like it for about a month now... :-( if ever you have a problem with the lists, please send mail to postmaster@freebsd.org. i'll look into your problem and see what i can find. jmb To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message