From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Sep 6 05:44:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA13255 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 05:44:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA13248 for freebsd-isp; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 05:44:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmb) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Message-Id: <199809061244.FAA13248@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: Evaluating network devices To: freebsd-isp Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 05:44:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org how do you evaluate network devices, specifically, load balancers and proxy servers? the unit that i am looking at is the nokia ip440 (runs firewall-1 on top of FreeBSD ;). it has a matrox shark 4 port 10/100BaseT pci nic. i am thinking about using netperf in TCP_STREAM, TCP_CC, TCP_CRR and TCP_RR modes to characterize a link between two machines using a crossover cable. then repeating the test with the ip440 in between the two machines. TCP_STREAM to measure how fast teh ip440 can pass data. TCP_CC to measure connection setup and teardown TCP_RR to measure request/response over a single connection TCP_CRR to measure request/response using a new connection each time. another tool that looks interesting is DBS http://shika.aist-nara.ac.jp/member/yukio-m/dbs/index.html looks like it can be used to coordinate activities of a number of comptuers involved in a single test. one piece that i will need is a machine that can saturate a 100BaseT. anyone have any suggestions? my linksys 10/100BaseT (if_ed.c) card aint gonna do it :) jmb To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Sep 6 09:20:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA29497 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 09:20:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.gwi.net (mail.gwi.net [204.120.68.142]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA29490; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 09:20:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fkittred@mail.gwi.net) Received: from mail.gwi.net (fkittred@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gwi.net (8.8.5/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA27053; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 12:19:55 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199809061619.MAA27053@mail.gwi.net> To: net@FreeBSD.ORG, isp@FreeBSD.ORG cc: network@mail.gwi.net Subject: using FreeBSD to load balancing DS1 via MPPP Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1998 12:19:54 -0400 From: Fletcher E Kittredge Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org We have a number of links which require bandwidth of more than one DS1, but less than a DS3. We have been inverse muxing DS1s by placing Ciscos at both ends and using OSPF. We are trying to phase out our use of Cisco routers in favor of FreeBSD routers. At this point, the only Ciscos we have are the those used to service these inverse mux'ed links. We don't use FreeBSD running OSPF for this purpose because we thought that FreeBSD could not handle equal weight multiple routes to the same destination. However, it sees to me that MPPP should be able to bind multiple DS1 point-to-point links together into one source and destination. This would result in one route. Is this the case? Does anyone have any experience with this configuration? The most we need right now is four DS1s, however we may need more in the future. I can't imagine using more than eight. thanks! fletcher To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Sep 6 16:17:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA10892 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 16:17:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zet.internet.dk (zet.internet.dk [194.19.140.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA10887 for ; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 16:17:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leifn@internet.dk) Received: from freddy (mail.swimsuit.internet.dk [194.255.12.232]) by zet.internet.dk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA06884 for ; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 01:17:21 +0200 Message-Id: <199809062317.BAA06884@zet.internet.dk> Reply-To: <@image.dk> From: "Leif Neland" To: Subject: Livingston Portmaster & Real terminal Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 01:16:14 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I want to hook up a real terminal to a modem, and connect to the portmaster at work to get a login prompt and shellaccess. Is this possible? (I'm the sysadmin). Alternatively, I could use a textmode telnet for win95; grapichal scrolling is unbearable slow on this borrowed 50MHz dx2. I don't have my nice FreeBSD-machines at home currently. Some people doesn't have any sense of humor. I discovered the telco had misconfigured the firewall around my old school, so april 1, I wrote a note on their printers, and then called the sysadmin to tell about their problem. A few days later, somebody appearently from a machine in japan got rootaccess, and 6 months later, the cops came and confiscated my equipment... _I_ didn't do it sir... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Sep 7 08:04:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA11696 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 08:04:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from wopr.inetu.net (wopr.inetu.net [207.18.13.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA11633 for ; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 08:03:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dev@wopr.inetu.net) Received: from localhost (dev@localhost) by wopr.inetu.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA10194; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 11:03:38 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 11:03:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Dev To: "Jason J. Horton" cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, isp-tech@isp-tech.com Subject: Re: webbased email/adding new users In-Reply-To: <35EC7715.29886974@intercom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear Jason, INetU has developed a set of tools for freebsd servers. We have software to 1) add, 2) list and 3) remove accounts from freebsd boxes. The add will do: 1) create the user 2) chroot the user in ftp 3) setup www, cgi-bin, logs, reports and autoresponders directory 4) edit the httpd.conf and add the virtual host entry 5) configure quota 6) configure 8 cgi scripts w/ examples in the cgi-bin 7) setup analog to run nightly and publish stats 8) setup a control pannel allowing the user to use web-based interface to configure e-mail forwarding, autoresponders and htaccess (password protected staff). Makes everything nice and standard and easy to work with. Uses flexible skel so you can upgrade software that gets included. If you are interested please let me know. Dev Chanchani - INetU, Inc.(tm) - http://www.INetU.net Electronic commerce - Web development - Web hosting dev@INetU.net - Phone: (610) 266-7441 On Tue, 1 Sep 1998, Jason J. Horton wrote: > A client wants to do a Hotmail type service(doesn't > everyone?) and I am wondering how to add new users via > forms, like hotmail does, with the webserver running > as a non-privilidged user and without opening a whole > bunch of security problems for the system. Any ideas? > Please email me or the list > > -J > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Sep 7 08:07:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA12169 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 08:07:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from wopr.inetu.net (wopr.inetu.net [207.18.13.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA12150 for ; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 08:07:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dev@wopr.inetu.net) Received: from localhost (dev@localhost) by wopr.inetu.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA10232 for ; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 11:07:10 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 11:07:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Dev To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: A/C Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I know this may be a bit off topic- We have 18 freebsd servers in our NOC. Needless to say, when we leased the space we had no idea how HOT it gets in the NOC (room with all computers, netowrk equipment). There are no windows and this room does not face the outside. A power supply blew last night. I got paged at midnight and had to come and fix it. It was like 90 degrees in our NOC. Especially now with the 3,000 VA UPS. Any ideas on this one? Money is definatly a factor. Thanks in advance, -Dev Dev Chanchani - INetU, Inc.(tm) - http://www.INetU.net Electronic commerce - Web development - Web hosting dev@INetU.net - Phone: (610) 266-7441 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Sep 7 08:40:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA15922 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 08:40:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from stingray.ivision.co.uk (stingray.ivision.co.uk [195.50.91.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA15916 for ; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 08:40:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from manar@ivision.co.uk) Received: from pretender.ivision.co.uk [195.50.91.43] by stingray.ivision.co.uk with smtp (Exim 1.62 #2) id 0zG3Oj-0001Qu-00; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 16:40:09 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980907163920.008fcad0@stingray.ivision.co.uk> X-Sender: manarpop@stingray.ivision.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 16:39:20 +0100 To: Dev From: Manar Hussain Subject: Re: webbased email/adding new users Cc: "Jason J. Horton" , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, isp-tech@isp-tech.com In-Reply-To: References: <35EC7715.29886974@intercom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jason, This is the sort of thing we've been working at here so we're certainly interested ... Manar >INetU has developed a set of tools for freebsd >servers. > >We have software to 1) add, 2) list and 3) remove >accounts from freebsd boxes. > >The add will do: >1) create the user >2) chroot the user in ftp >3) setup www, cgi-bin, logs, reports and >autoresponders directory >4) edit the httpd.conf and add the virtual host >entry >5) configure quota >6) configure 8 cgi scripts w/ examples in the >cgi-bin >7) setup analog to run nightly and publish stats >8) setup a control pannel allowing the user to use >web-based interface to configure e-mail >forwarding, autoresponders and htaccess (password >protected staff). > >Makes everything nice and standard and easy to >work with. > >Uses flexible skel so you can upgrade software >that gets included. > >If you are interested please let me know. > >Dev Chanchani - INetU, Inc.(tm) - http://www.INetU.net > Electronic commerce - Web development - Web hosting > dev@INetU.net - Phone: (610) 266-7441 > >On Tue, 1 Sep 1998, Jason J. Horton wrote: > >> A client wants to do a Hotmail type service(doesn't >> everyone?) and I am wondering how to add new users via >> forms, like hotmail does, with the webserver running >> as a non-privilidged user and without opening a whole >> bunch of security problems for the system. Any ideas? >> Please email me or the list >> >> -J >> >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message >> > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Sep 7 09:09:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA19665 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 09:09:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from florence.pavilion.net (florence.pavilion.net [194.242.128.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA19505 for ; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 09:07:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joe@florence.pavilion.net) Received: (from joe@localhost) by florence.pavilion.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA11579; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 17:06:09 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from joe) Message-ID: <19980907170609.H7001@pavilion.net> Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 17:06:09 +0100 From: Josef Karthauser To: Dev , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: A/C Mail-Followup-To: Dev , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: ; from Dev on Mon, Sep 07, 1998 at 11:07:10AM -0400 X-NCC-RegID: uk.pavilion Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Sep 07, 1998 at 11:07:10AM -0400, Dev wrote: > > It was like 90 degrees in our NOC. Especially now > with the 3,000 VA UPS. > > Any ideas on this one? Money is definatly a > factor. > Airconditioning... at what ever cost. Joe -- Josef Karthauser Technical Manager FreeBSD: The power to serve (http://www.uk.freebsd.org) Pavilion Internet plc. [joe@pavilion.net, joe@uk.freebsd.org, joe@tao.org.uk] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Sep 7 11:31:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA11632 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 11:31:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns1.walls-media.com (ns1.walls-media.com [12.6.126.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA11626 for ; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 11:31:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bryanb@walls-media.com) Received: from bryanbun ([209.215.46.102]) by ns1.walls-media.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO205-101c) ID# 0-0U10L2S100) with SMTP id AAA64; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 13:28:18 -0500 Message-ID: <001a01bdda8d$82de69e0$662ed7d1@bryanbun.bhm.bellsouth.net> From: "Bryan Bunch" To: "Dev" , Subject: Re: A/C Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 13:29:54 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >It was like 90 degrees in our NOC. Especially now >with the 3,000 VA UPS. > >Any ideas on this one? Money is definatly a >factor. We currently use Liebert Conditioning Systems in our NOC's and in my opinion they are second to none, the one unit does heating, cooling, humidifying and dehumidifying and they come in about every configuration possible. Unfortunately they are not inexpensive, but it's a small price to pay when you never have to worry about temp or humidity in your NOC's every again.. Check out: http://www.liebert.com/products/listprod.asp?ID=4&dir=env&type_name=Environm ental+Control+Systems (Sorry if the above wraps..) Bryan bryanb@walls-media.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Sep 7 13:54:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA03708 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 13:54:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dt053nb4.san.rr.com (dt053nb4.san.rr.com [204.210.34.180]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA03702 for ; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 13:54:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@dal.net) Received: from dal.net (Studded@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dt053nb4.san.rr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA21982; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 13:54:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@dal.net) Message-ID: <35F44800.3E473046@dal.net> Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 13:54:24 -0700 From: Studded Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.7-STABLE-0905 i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dev CC: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: A/C References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dev wrote: > It was like 90 degrees in our NOC. Especially now > with the 3,000 VA UPS. That's way too hot. Remember, it's probably hotter than that inside the cases. Doug -- *** Chief Operations Officer, DALnet IRC network *** At Barry (a small town in south Wales) hidden cameras have had to be installed to keep watch on the town's CCTV [Closed Circuit Television] to record acts of vandalism against the CCTV. - Privacy Forum To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Sep 7 14:32:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA10029 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 14:32:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from calamity.eng.avtel.net (calamity.eng.avtel.net [207.71.234.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA09964 for ; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 14:32:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dlc@silcom.com) Received: (from dlc@localhost) by calamity.eng.avtel.net (8.9.0.Beta5/8.9.0.Beta5) id OAA15682; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 14:32:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <19980907143248.B14724@avtel.net> Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 14:32:48 -0700 From: Dave Carmean To: William Bulley Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: merit radius detail files? References: <199809031950.PAA02781@easeway.com> <199809032046.QAA07743@ohm.merit.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <199809032046.QAA07743@ohm.merit.edu>; from William Bulley on Thu, Sep 03, 1998 at 04:46:04PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Sep 03, 1998 at 04:46:04PM -0400, William Bulley wrote: > And, also, in the future send technical Merit AAA Server questions > directly to aaa-support@merit.edu for fastest response... :-) Yes, but... actually answering the questions here and on other lists makes the most of your time, William. It helps both current subscribers and archive searchers at a later date. -- David Carmean Avtel Communications, Santa Barbara, CA +1-805-884-6300 PGP fingerprint = B1 57 EB A8 1D B9 87 86 5F 5C 51 A4 F2 5E ED FD To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Sep 7 14:37:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA11513 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 14:37:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from merit.edu (merit.edu [198.108.1.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA11504 for ; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 14:37:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from web@merit.edu) Received: from ohm.merit.edu (ohm.merit.edu [198.108.60.65]) by merit.edu (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA28960; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 17:37:00 -0400 (EDT) From: William Bulley Received: (web@localhost) by ohm.merit.edu (8.6.9/8.6.5) id RAA16343; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 17:37:33 -0400 Message-Id: <199809072137.RAA16343@ohm.merit.edu> Subject: Re: merit radius detail files? To: dlc@avtel.com (Dave Carmean) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 17:37:33 -0400 (EDT) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19980907143248.B14724@avtel.net> from "Dave Carmean" at Sep 7, 98 02:32:48 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org According to Dave Carmean: > > On Thu, Sep 03, 1998 at 04:46:04PM -0400, William Bulley wrote: > > > And, also, in the future send technical Merit AAA Server questions > > directly to aaa-support@merit.edu for fastest response... :-) > > Yes, but... actually answering the questions here and on > other lists makes the most of your time, William. It helps > both current subscribers and archive searchers at a later date. Agreed! :-) Regards, web... -- William Bulley Senior Systems Research Programmer Merit Network, Inc. Email: web@merit.edu 4251 Plymouth Road, Suite C Phone: (734) 764-9993 Ann Arbor, Michigan 48105-2785 Fax: (734) 647-3185 [ Reuters, London, February 29, 1998: Scientists have announced discovering ] [ a meteorite which will strike the earth in March, 2028. Millions of UNIX ] [ coders expressed relief for being spared the UNIX epoch "crisis" of 2038. ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Sep 8 02:24:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA28759 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 02:24:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hub.dimpex.com.au (gway.dimpex.com.au [203.36.169.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA28754 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 02:24:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from apk@dimpex.com.au) Received: by gway.dimpex.com.au with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 19:34:43 +1000 Message-ID: From: Andrew Kaszubski Jnr To: "'freebsd-isp@freebsd.org'" Subject: re Y2K compliant Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 19:34:41 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org We are in the midst of Y2K testing, and we have a couple of freebsd servers. We are running 2.2.2-RELEASE and are in the midst of upgrading to 2.2.7. Can anybody tell me of their experiences with freebsd and ports in relation to the Y2K issue? Thanks in advance. Andrew Kaszubski - Technical Consultant - Mobile: 0411-263-880 Dimpex Pty Ltd - Engineering & Computer Consulting E-mail apk@dimpex.com.au http://www.dimpex.com.au To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Sep 8 06:02:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA25722 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 06:02:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from shell.futuresouth.com (shell.futuresouth.com [198.78.58.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA25713 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 06:02:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tim@futuresouth.com) Received: (from tim@localhost) by shell.futuresouth.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA22256; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 08:02:27 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <19980908080227.31656@futuresouth.com> Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 08:02:27 -0500 From: Tim Tsai To: Roger Marquis Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: BigTime FreeBSD vs... References: <199808202230.PAA01577@pau-amma.whistle.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88 In-Reply-To: ; from Roger Marquis on Thu, Aug 20, 1998 at 09:51:21PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > * Solaris has the easiest installation, best patching software > (sunsolve.sun.com/sunsolve/patchdiag/), best disk RAID (with ODS and > VXVM) and best all-around technical support (24*7 phone support and > sunsolve1.sun.com). It is also the most expensive and most likely to > support commercial application X. A half dozen administrators can > easily manage 500 clients, 1,000 users, dozens of applications, > software and hardware running Solaris and do it far easier than on > any other Unix, probably any other OS, IMHO. Let's not forget that most commercial Solaris pakckages that *I*'ve run across do not have the x86 version which kills the primary reason that I'd want Solaris. Solaris/Sparc and Solaris/x86 are so different in so many different ways I don't think they should be lumped together. Tim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Sep 8 07:07:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA04835 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 07:07:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mailmtx.acnet.net (mailmtx.acnet.net [170.76.16.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA04830 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 07:07:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from felino@acnet.net) Received: from acnet.net ([167.114.65.79]) by mailmtx.acnet.net (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id JAA23513 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 09:07:21 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <35F53B3F.D021CCBC@acnet.net> Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 09:12:15 -0500 From: Jose Arcadio Lopez Hernanedz Reply-To: felino@acnet.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: (no subject) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org subscribe freebsd-questions subscribe freebsd-announce END To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Sep 8 10:15:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA07013 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 10:15:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA06996 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 10:15:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from julian@whistle.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by alpo.whistle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA11466; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 10:07:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from current1.whistle.com(207.76.205.22) via SMTP by alpo.whistle.com, id smtpdb11464; Tue Sep 8 17:07:41 1998 Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 10:07:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Julian Elischer To: Bryan Bunch cc: Dev , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: A/C In-Reply-To: <001a01bdda8d$82de69e0$662ed7d1@bryanbun.bhm.bellsouth.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org You can buy some airconditionning units that are split units... i.e. the compressor and Hot heat exchangter, goe outside (or wherever) and you run 2 small pipes (and a thermostat) to teh room that requires cooling. Great for cooling a single internal room.. consult an A/C specialist.. they have many such tricks. julian On Mon, 7 Sep 1998, Bryan Bunch wrote: > >It was like 90 degrees in our NOC. Especially now > >with the 3,000 VA UPS. > > > >Any ideas on this one? Money is definatly a > >factor. > > We currently use Liebert Conditioning Systems in our NOC's and in my opinion > they are second to none, the one unit does heating, cooling, humidifying and > dehumidifying and they come in about every configuration possible. > > Unfortunately they are not inexpensive, but it's a small price to pay when > you never have to worry about temp or humidity in your NOC's every again.. > > Check out: > > http://www.liebert.com/products/listprod.asp?ID=4&dir=env&type_name=Environm > ental+Control+Systems > > (Sorry if the above wraps..) > > Bryan > bryanb@walls-media.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Sep 8 10:44:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA12475 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 10:44:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from breadfruit.seychelles.net (breadfruit.seychelles.net [202.84.227.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA12460 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 10:44:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from muditha@seychelles.net) Received: from creole.seychelles.net (creole.seychelles.net [202.84.227.2]) by breadfruit.seychelles.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id VAA03379; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 21:44:19 +0400 (SMT) Message-ID: <35F56B24.41C67EA6@seychelles.net> Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 21:36:36 +0400 From: Muditha Gunatilake Organization: Atlas X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.1.5-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG CC: me@anand.org Subject: sendmail question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am trying out sendmail 8.9.1. What is the best way to allow our entire class of ip addresses to relay mail? eg: 202.84.227.* so all servers, machines on the lan and dial-up clients using these ips will be allowed to sendmail? Thanx -- --------------------- Muditha Gunatilake Atlas Seychelles Ltd Phone : (248) 304060 Email : muditha@seychelles.net muditha@creole.seychelles.net mbh3gpa@afs.mcc.ac.uk :-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Sep 8 11:44:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA21969 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 11:44:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from horst.bfd.com (horst.bfd.com [12.9.219.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA21893 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 11:44:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ejs@bfd.com) Received: from HARLIE.bfd.com (bastion.bfd.com [12.9.219.14]) by horst.bfd.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA07777; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 11:43:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 11:43:34 -0700 (PDT) From: "Eric J. Schwertfeger" To: Muditha Gunatilake cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, me@anand.org Subject: Re: sendmail question In-Reply-To: <35F56B24.41C67EA6@seychelles.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 8 Sep 1998, Muditha Gunatilake wrote: > I am trying out sendmail 8.9.1. What is the best way to allow our entire > class of ip addresses to relay mail? eg: 202.84.227.* so all servers, > machines on the lan and dial-up clients using these ips will be allowed > to sendmail? add FEATURE(access_db)dnl to your .mc file if it's not already in there, add, make your new .cf file, install said file as /etc/sendmail.cf (keep a backup of the old one just in case), then add 202.84.227 RELAY to /etc/mail/access (or whatever you use if you already use something like this), then run the command /usr/sbin/makemake hash /etc/mail/access Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA23141 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 11:49:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ainet.com (ainet.com [204.30.40.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA23127 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 11:49:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmscott@ainet.com) Received: from perl.ainet.com (perl.ainet.com [204.30.40.14]) by ainet.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA26865; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 11:48:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980908115006.008263b0@mail.ainet.com> X-Sender: jmscott@mail.ainet.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 11:50:06 -0700 To: Muditha Gunatilake , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Joseph M. Scott" Subject: Re: sendmail question Cc: me@anand.org In-Reply-To: <35F56B24.41C67EA6@seychelles.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Check out : http://www.sendmail.org/m4/anti-spam.html Under the FEATURE(access_db) section. I've been using that to specifiy the relaying allowed domains and ip addresses. So far it's done the job. Joseph Scott jmscott@ainet.com At 09:36 PM 9/8/98 +0400, Muditha Gunatilake wrote: >I am trying out sendmail 8.9.1. What is the best way to allow our entire >class of ip addresses to relay mail? eg: 202.84.227.* so all servers, >machines on the lan and dial-up clients using these ips will be allowed >to sendmail? > >Thanx >-- >--------------------- >Muditha Gunatilake >Atlas Seychelles Ltd > >Phone : (248) 304060 > >Email : muditha@seychelles.net > muditha@creole.seychelles.net > mbh3gpa@afs.mcc.ac.uk > >:-) > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Sep 8 16:42:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA09192 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 16:42:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from amber.eaznet.com (amber.eaznet.com [216.19.20.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA09152 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 16:42:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eddie@eaznet.com) Received: from eaznet.com (admin.eaznet.com [216.19.20.16]) by amber.eaznet.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA15201; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 16:43:46 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <35F5C1BC.4A3134B4@eaznet.com> Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 16:46:04 -0700 From: Eddie Fry X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Julian Elischer CC: Bryan Bunch , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: A/C References: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------CF84DB2473D2214929CC6385" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --------------CF84DB2473D2214929CC6385 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is probably the most cost effective idea (unless you're on the 30th floor). You can usually get everything paid for and installed for <$3000. Maybe even less than that. Eddie Julian Elischer wrote: > You can buy some airconditionning units that are split units... > i.e. the compressor and Hot heat exchangter, goe outside (or wherever) > and you run 2 small pipes (and a thermostat) to teh room that requires > cooling. Great for cooling a single internal room.. > > consult an A/C specialist.. they have many such tricks. > > julian > > On Mon, 7 Sep 1998, Bryan Bunch wrote: > > > >It was like 90 degrees in our NOC. Especially now > > >with the 3,000 VA UPS. > > > > > >Any ideas on this one? Money is definatly a > > >factor. > > > > We currently use Liebert Conditioning Systems in our NOC's and in my opinion > > they are second to none, the one unit does heating, cooling, humidifying and > > dehumidifying and they come in about every configuration possible. > > > > Unfortunately they are not inexpensive, but it's a small price to pay when > > you never have to worry about temp or humidity in your NOC's every again.. > > > > Check out: > > > > http://www.liebert.com/products/listprod.asp?ID=4&dir=env&type_name=Environm > > ental+Control+Systems > > > > (Sorry if the above wraps..) > > > > Bryan > > bryanb@walls-media.com > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message -- Eddie Fry EAZNet Internet Services --------------CF84DB2473D2214929CC6385 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is probably the most cost effective idea (unless you're on the 30th floor).  You can usually get everything paid for and installed for <$3000.  Maybe even less than that.

Eddie

Julian Elischer wrote:

You can buy some airconditionning units that are split units...
i.e. the  compressor and Hot heat exchangter, goe outside (or wherever)
and you run 2 small pipes (and a thermostat) to teh room that requires
cooling.  Great for cooling a single internal room..

consult an A/C specialist.. they have many such tricks.

julian

On Mon, 7 Sep 1998, Bryan Bunch wrote:

> >It was like 90 degrees in our NOC. Especially now
> >with the 3,000 VA UPS.
> >
> >Any ideas on this one? Money is definatly a
> >factor.
>
> We currently use Liebert Conditioning Systems in our NOC's and in my opinion
> they are second to none, the one unit does heating, cooling, humidifying and
> dehumidifying and they come in about every configuration possible.
>
> Unfortunately they are not inexpensive, but it's a small price to pay when
> you never have to worry about temp or humidity in your NOC's every again..
>
> Check out:
>
> http://www.liebert.com/products/listprod.asp?ID=4&dir=env&type_name=Environm
> ental+Control+Systems
>
> (Sorry if the above wraps..)
>
> Bryan
> bryanb@walls-media.com
>
>
> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org
> with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message
>

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--
Eddie Fry
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  --------------CF84DB2473D2214929CC6385-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Sep 8 19:09:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA29362 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 19:09:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from news.westbend.net (news.westbend.net [207.217.224.197]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA29346 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 19:09:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hetzels@westbend.net) Received: from admin (admin.westbend.net [207.217.224.195]) by news.westbend.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id VAA21513; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 21:08:34 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from hetzels@westbend.net) Message-ID: <016401bddb96$9e9e6540$c3e0d9cf@westbend.net> From: "Scot W. Hetzel" To: "Andrew Kaszubski Jnr" Cc: "FreeBSD-ISP" Subject: Re: re Y2K compliant Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 21:07:37 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0518.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0518.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org From: Andrew Kaszubski Jnr >We are in the midst of Y2K testing, and we have a couple of freebsd servers. >We are running 2.2.2-RELEASE and are in >the midst of upgrading to 2.2.7. Can anybody tell me of their experiences >with freebsd and ports in relation to the Y2K issue? > FreeBSD doesn't have a Y2K problem, instead it has a 2038 problem. See http://www.freebsd.org/y2kbug.html . Scot To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Sep 9 05:00:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA00942 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 05:00:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cs1.cityscope.net (cs1.cityscope.net [206.222.183.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA00924 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 05:00:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bahwi@cityscope.net) Received: from cs1 (pm2-104.cityscope.net [209.16.48.104]) by cs1.cityscope.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id HAA13727 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 07:11:45 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199809091211.HAA13727@cs1.cityscope.net> From: "Bahwi Malistyr" Organization: http://www.cityscope.net/~bahwi/home.html To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 07:00:20 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: FrontPage Reply-to: bahwi@cityscope.net X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Are there any problems with running front page on a FreeBSD box? Is there anything I should know about, installation problems or something? All I've heard is to use BSDI 2.1 version of the extensions. Does it crash alot? Thanks. [Please private e-mail me at bahwi@cityscope.net as I am not a member of this list] -bahwi http://www.cityscope.net/~bahwi/home.html bahwi@technologist.com bahwi@yahoo.com UIN: 3329836 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Sep 9 07:08:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA18053 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 07:08:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from iserver.itworks.com.au (iserver.itworks.com.au [203.32.61.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA18048 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 07:08:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gavin@itworks.com.au) Received: from localhost (gavin@localhost) by iserver.itworks.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA03900 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 00:08:26 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from gavin@itworks.com.au) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 00:08:26 +1000 (EST) From: Gavin Cameron To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: mpd talking to a MAX 4000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, If anyone out there has managed to get mpd talking to a MAX4000 using radius authentication, and would be willing to help me out, could they drop me an E-mail. Problem I'm having is mpd is sending the LCP requests to the MAX and thats as far as we get. All I'm trying to do is get one modem talking using a known working config. The MAX is working properly and I can connect quite happily using pppd, but I want to play around with multilink. Thanks in advance, Gavin []-----------------------------------+------------------------------------[] | Gavin Cameron | ITworks Consulting | | Ph : 0418 390350 | Suite 100, 85 Grattan Street | | Fax : +61 3 9347 6544 | Carlton, Victoria | | Email : gavin@itworks.com.au | Australia, 3053 | []-----------------------------------+------------------------------------[] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Sep 9 08:43:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA29755 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 08:43:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from unix.kawartha.com (unix.kawartha.com [204.101.15.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA29748 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 08:43:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from paul@kawartha.com) Received: from shell.kawartha.com (shell.kawartha.com [204.101.15.43]) by unix.kawartha.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA25624 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 11:46:10 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 12:10:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Paul Stewart To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: PPP Dial-In Question Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I know this is probably a RTFM..:) But my question is pretty general.. We have a client who needs a dial-in PPP connection on a USR Courier-I Modem (ISDN 128K). What do we need to setup for this to function properly? The server is a 2.2.6 machine. Once I know what is needed (they do *not* require PAP, only PPP via script) I'll start reading...:) Paul To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Sep 9 08:46:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA00158 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 08:46:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mercury.jorsm.com (mercury.jorsm.com [207.112.128.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA00153 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 08:46:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jer@jorsm.com) Received: from localhost (jer@localhost) by mercury.jorsm.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA06704; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 10:46:05 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 10:46:04 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeremy Shaffner Reply-To: Jeremy Shaffner To: "Ross Potts, CON, EDS/D-SIDDOMS" cc: FreeBSD-ISP@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ISDN In-Reply-To: <9808141005.ZM-184733@161.14.168.22> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This may be late, but maybe it will help. > Thinking about trying the tiny ISP thing. I want to build something like a > small ISP for my local family members(of course Id be using FBSD for the host). > > I got the pricing from Bell Atlantic for the line, but they say I still > need an ISP. Of course. You need an upstream connection, whether you're a small ISP using ISDN or a large ISP using a T1 or better, you still need a network connection. > Could someone explain this to me? Say I wanted dedicated 128K. That > would cost me $200/month, plus I need to subscribe to > "somebody.whatever" for an additional $20/month? Yes. The "Dedicated" part involves the ISP though, not the TelCo. > Plus, with a 128K line, the way it's explained, I can accept incoming calls at > the same time. Is that true? The average ISDN user can use both B channels to connect to their ISP. An incoming call can free up the second channel to let them receive a call (Their connection will drop down to 64K). When the call is completed the TA will add the 2nd channel back. You'd need a ISDN line with the right options and an Terminal Adapter that support DBA (Dynamic Bandwidth Allocation.) This isn't really what you want to do anyway. You want all 128K available at all times for your users. > > Can anyone direct me to a FAQ or something explaing the typical cost breakdown > of something like this. > ISP (Whatever they charge for 128K Dedicated ISDN) | | | - 1 ISDN BRI line (Whatever telco charges) | | YOU (Using whatever ISDN router you choose) | FreeBSD (Acting as a terminal server) | [ ] (Multiport serial card. Cyclades, etc) / \ modem modem (etc) | | POTS POTS (1 regular phone line for each modem, whatever telco charges.) You could "get by" with NATD, but you might consider buying multiple IP's from your ISP so you'd have an IP for the router, the FBSD box, and each dialup. You'd have to work this out with them, including a domain name if you want one. > -- > Potts, Ross A. Internet : Ross.Potts@med.osd.mil > EDS-D/SIDDOMS Phone : (703) 824-7601 > Skyline Two, Suite 1200 Beeper : (888) 687-2709 > 5113 Leesburg Pike, FAX : (703) 824-4155 > Falls Church, VA 22041 -===================================================================- Jeremy Shaffner JORSM Internet Senior Technical Support Northwest Indiana's Premium jer@jorsm.com Internet Service Provider support@jorsm.com http://www.jorsm.com -===================================================================- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Sep 9 12:16:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA01974 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 12:16:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from socrates.i-pi.com (socrates.i-pi.com [198.49.217.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA01967 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 12:16:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ingham@i-pi.com) Received: (from ingham@localhost) by socrates.i-pi.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id NAA01239; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 13:13:34 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from ingham) Message-ID: <19980909131334.28166@i-pi.com> Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 13:13:34 -0600 From: Kenneth Ingham To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: proxy arp hanging around Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On a 2.2.5-RELEASE system, we have dialup PPP access using pppd. Regularly, we have problems where pppd does not remove the proxy arp when it is done, and we end up with: ppp-in-1.swd.ara.com (38.245.99.254) at (incomplete) I have a cron job removing these entries whenever it sees them. However, I'd like to not have to run it at all. Looking at the archives, this problem is claimed fixed long ago. Kenneth To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Sep 9 13:50:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA16866 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 13:50:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.siscom.net (mail.siscom.net [206.244.171.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA16781 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 13:49:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from radams@siscom.net) Received: from mp (mp.siscom.net [206.244.171.40]) by mail.siscom.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA17118 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 16:59:26 -0400 Message-ID: <059801bddc31$f5ecffa0$28abf4ce@mp.siscom.net> From: "Robert Adams" To: Subject: Chroot + Freebsd Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 16:39:35 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello all, Was wondering is anything is running chroot'ed virtual servers.. we are thinking of moving all our vitual servers into a virtual environment so that they each have there own little system going on..then using something like xinetd to all the servers for each.. anyone done this? -Jason --- Robert J. Adams radams@siscom.net http://www.siscom.net Looking to outsource news? http://www.newshosting.com SISCOM Network Administration - President, SISCOM Inc. Phone: 888-4-SISCOM 937-222-8150 FAX: 937-222-8153 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Sep 9 18:13:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA25140 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 18:13:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.westbend.net (ns1.westbend.net [207.217.224.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA25129 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 18:13:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hetzels@westbend.net) Received: from admin (admin.westbend.net [207.217.224.195]) by mail.westbend.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA26352; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 20:02:31 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from hetzels@westbend.net) Message-ID: <006101bddc56$8e725e40$c3e0d9cf@westbend.net> From: "Scot W. Hetzel" To: , Subject: Re: FrontPage Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 20:01:34 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0518.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0518.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org From: Bahwi Malistyr >Are there any problems with running front page on a FreeBSD box? >Is there anything I should know about, installation problems or >something? All I've heard is to use BSDI 2.1 version of the >extensions. Does it crash alot? Thanks. If you use the FreeBSD Apache-fp port there should be no problems with the installation. The Apache-fp port makes sure that your system has the descrypt libraries installed (DES is available from ftp.freebsd.org (US/CA), or internat.freebsd.org for international version). The Apache-fp port uses the BSDI 3.0 extentions. I haven't had a single crash with the frontpage extentions. For Apache v1.2.6: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/apache-fp.tar For Apache v1.3.1: http://www.westbend.net/~hetzels/apache-fp Scot To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Sep 10 06:08:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA21046 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 06:08:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from wopr.inetu.net (wopr.inetu.net [207.18.13.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA21040 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 06:08:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dev@wopr.inetu.net) Received: from localhost (dev@localhost) by wopr.inetu.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA27037; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 09:07:34 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 09:07:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Dev To: Robert Adams cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Chroot + Freebsd In-Reply-To: <059801bddc31$f5ecffa0$28abf4ce@mp.siscom.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org www.inetu.net click on products then on virtual server. Dev Chanchani - INetU, Inc.(tm) - http://www.INetU.net Electronic commerce - Web development - Web hosting dev@INetU.net - Phone: (610) 266-7441 On Wed, 9 Sep 1998, Robert Adams wrote: > Hello all, > > Was wondering is anything is running chroot'ed virtual servers.. we are > thinking of moving all our vitual servers into a virtual environment so that > they each have there own little system going on..then using something like > xinetd to all the servers for each.. anyone done this? > > -Jason > > > --- > Robert J. Adams radams@siscom.net http://www.siscom.net > Looking to outsource news? http://www.newshosting.com > SISCOM Network Administration - President, SISCOM Inc. > Phone: 888-4-SISCOM 937-222-8150 FAX: 937-222-8153 > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Sep 10 08:00:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA08480 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 08:00:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.siscom.net (mail.siscom.net [206.244.171.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA08471 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 08:00:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from radams@siscom.net) Received: from mp (mp.siscom.net [206.244.171.40]) by mail.siscom.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA13008; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 11:10:13 -0400 Message-ID: <002d01bddcca$4e208320$28abf4ce@mp.siscom.net> From: "Robert Adams" To: "Dev" Cc: Subject: Re: Chroot + Freebsd Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 10:50:06 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dev, You doing the virtual server on fbsd? -j --- Robert J. Adams radams@siscom.net http://www.siscom.net Looking to outsource news? http://www.newshosting.com SISCOM Network Administration - President, SISCOM Inc. Phone: 888-4-SISCOM 937-222-8150 FAX: 937-222-8153 -----Original Message----- From: Dev To: Robert Adams Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Thursday, September 10, 1998 10:03 AM Subject: Re: Chroot + Freebsd >www.inetu.net click on products then on virtual >server. > >Dev Chanchani - INetU, Inc.(tm) - http://www.INetU.net > Electronic commerce - Web development - Web hosting > dev@INetU.net - Phone: (610) 266-7441 > >On Wed, 9 Sep 1998, Robert Adams wrote: > >> Hello all, >> >> Was wondering is anything is running chroot'ed virtual servers.. we are >> thinking of moving all our vitual servers into a virtual environment so that >> they each have there own little system going on..then using something like >> xinetd to all the servers for each.. anyone done this? >> >> -Jason >> >> >> --- >> Robert J. Adams radams@siscom.net http://www.siscom.net >> Looking to outsource news? http://www.newshosting.com >> SISCOM Network Administration - President, SISCOM Inc. >> Phone: 888-4-SISCOM 937-222-8150 FAX: 937-222-8153 >> >> >> >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message >> > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Sep 10 08:03:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA08909 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 08:03:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from wopr.inetu.net (wopr.inetu.net [207.18.13.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA08904 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 08:03:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dev@wopr.inetu.net) Received: from localhost (dev@localhost) by wopr.inetu.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA28288; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 11:02:34 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 11:02:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Dev To: Robert Adams cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Chroot + Freebsd In-Reply-To: <002d01bddcca$4e208320$28abf4ce@mp.siscom.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Yes. The virtual server was designed for FreeBSD. However, the virtual server was designed very modularly incorporing a skeleton directory and many configurable options so you could port it to other operating systems with minimal effort. Please let me know if you have any other questions. Dev Chanchani - INetU, Inc.(tm) - http://www.INetU.net Electronic commerce - Web development - Web hosting dev@INetU.net - Phone: (610) 266-7441 On Thu, 10 Sep 1998, Robert Adams wrote: > Dev, > > You doing the virtual server on fbsd? > > -j > > --- > Robert J. Adams radams@siscom.net http://www.siscom.net > Looking to outsource news? http://www.newshosting.com > SISCOM Network Administration - President, SISCOM Inc. > Phone: 888-4-SISCOM 937-222-8150 FAX: 937-222-8153 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dev > To: Robert Adams > Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > Date: Thursday, September 10, 1998 10:03 AM > Subject: Re: Chroot + Freebsd > > > >www.inetu.net click on products then on virtual > >server. > > > >Dev Chanchani - INetU, Inc.(tm) - http://www.INetU.net > > Electronic commerce - Web development - Web hosting > > dev@INetU.net - Phone: (610) 266-7441 > > > >On Wed, 9 Sep 1998, Robert Adams wrote: > > > >> Hello all, > >> > >> Was wondering is anything is running chroot'ed virtual servers.. we > are > >> thinking of moving all our vitual servers into a virtual environment so > that > >> they each have there own little system going on..then using something > like > >> xinetd to all the servers for each.. anyone done this? > >> > >> -Jason > >> > >> > >> --- > >> Robert J. Adams radams@siscom.net http://www.siscom.net > >> Looking to outsource news? http://www.newshosting.com > >> SISCOM Network Administration - President, SISCOM Inc. > >> Phone: 888-4-SISCOM 937-222-8150 FAX: 937-222-8153 > >> > >> > >> > >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > >> > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Sep 10 08:26:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA15624 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 08:26:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.siscom.net (mail.siscom.net [206.244.171.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA15593 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 08:25:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from radams@siscom.net) Received: from mp (mp.siscom.net [206.244.171.40]) by mail.siscom.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA14733; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 11:35:46 -0400 Message-ID: <008001bddccd$dfd92bc0$28abf4ce@mp.siscom.net> From: "Robert Adams" To: "Dev" Cc: Subject: Re: Chroot + Freebsd Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 11:15:40 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dev, Are you willing to share some of your design? We are wanting to do something like this.. just don't know where to start. -Jason --- Robert J. Adams radams@siscom.net http://www.siscom.net Looking to outsource news? http://www.newshosting.com SISCOM Network Administration - President, SISCOM Inc. Phone: 888-4-SISCOM 937-222-8150 FAX: 937-222-8153 -----Original Message----- From: Dev To: Robert Adams Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Thursday, September 10, 1998 11:12 AM Subject: Re: Chroot + Freebsd >Yes. The virtual server was designed for FreeBSD. >However, the virtual server was designed very >modularly incorporing a skeleton directory and >many configurable options so you could port it to >other operating systems with minimal effort. > >Please let me know if you have any other >questions. > >Dev Chanchani - INetU, Inc.(tm) - http://www.INetU.net > Electronic commerce - Web development - Web hosting > dev@INetU.net - Phone: (610) 266-7441 > >On Thu, 10 Sep 1998, Robert Adams wrote: > >> Dev, >> >> You doing the virtual server on fbsd? >> >> -j >> >> --- >> Robert J. Adams radams@siscom.net http://www.siscom.net >> Looking to outsource news? http://www.newshosting.com >> SISCOM Network Administration - President, SISCOM Inc. >> Phone: 888-4-SISCOM 937-222-8150 FAX: 937-222-8153 >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Dev >> To: Robert Adams >> Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG >> Date: Thursday, September 10, 1998 10:03 AM >> Subject: Re: Chroot + Freebsd >> >> >> >www.inetu.net click on products then on virtual >> >server. >> > >> >Dev Chanchani - INetU, Inc.(tm) - http://www.INetU.net >> > Electronic commerce - Web development - Web hosting >> > dev@INetU.net - Phone: (610) 266-7441 >> > >> >On Wed, 9 Sep 1998, Robert Adams wrote: >> > >> >> Hello all, >> >> >> >> Was wondering is anything is running chroot'ed virtual servers.. we >> are >> >> thinking of moving all our vitual servers into a virtual environment so >> that >> >> they each have there own little system going on..then using something >> like >> >> xinetd to all the servers for each.. anyone done this? >> >> >> >> -Jason >> >> >> >> >> >> --- >> >> Robert J. Adams radams@siscom.net http://www.siscom.net >> >> Looking to outsource news? http://www.newshosting.com >> >> SISCOM Network Administration - President, SISCOM Inc. >> >> Phone: 888-4-SISCOM 937-222-8150 FAX: 937-222-8153 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message >> >> >> > >> > >> >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message >> > >> > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Sep 10 08:50:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA20545 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 08:50:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from unix.kawartha.com (unix.kawartha.com [204.101.15.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA20510 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 08:50:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from paul@kawartha.com) Received: from shell.kawartha.com (shell.kawartha.com [204.101.15.43]) by unix.kawartha.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA18982 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 11:53:24 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 12:18:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Paul Stewart To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Dial-In Problems Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi there... I've setup getty to accept a dial-in modem (USR Courier I-Modem) and the modem answers when we dial into using a Sportster (tried other modems also) but then just garbage and no login prompt. I know it's going to be something in my std.57600 setting... here's the file... anyone help? :) default:\ :cb:ce:ck:lc:fd#1000:im=\r\nFreeBSD (%h) (%t)\r\n\r\n:sp#1200: std.38400|38400-baud:\ :np:sp#38400: std.57600|57600-baud:\ :np:sp#57600: std.115200|115200-baud:\ :np:sp#115200: I've cut out a lot of the other stuff.. anyone have one of these working properly as a dial-in port? :) For future reference, here's my tty's file.. ttyv0 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25 on secure # Virtual terminals ttyv1 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25 on secure ttyv2 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25 on secure ttyv3 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25 off secure # Serial terminals ttyd0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.57600" dialup on insecure ttyd1 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" unknown off secure ttyd2 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" unknown off secure ttyd3 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" unknown off secure To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Sep 10 09:19:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA27638 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 09:19:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.netdirect.net (mail.netdirect.net [204.120.164.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA27624 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 09:19:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from angrick@netdirect.net) Received: from fdc7.infostrm.com ([209.212.205.13]) by mail.netdirect.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id LAA26021; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 11:19:09 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19980910162228.0082f248@netdirect.net> X-Sender: angrick@netdirect.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 11:22:28 -0500 To: "Robert Adams" From: Andy Angrick Subject: Re: Chroot + Freebsd Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Yes, I just stole the ideas and programs from someone who was doing it for Linux. It works basically the same other than the ip aliasing. It appears to be easier to do with fbsd than it is w/ linux. I found the c source for a program called 'virtuald'. The program is place in the inetd.conf file to manage the virtual server tasks. It finds the appropriate directory for the incoming ip address from a config file, chroots to that directory, and then runs the appropriate program. There was a shell script call 'virtfs' that copies the required files over to the new virtual directory structure. This script needs a lot of tweaking which I haven't done yet. The last thing is a script that will virtual execute a command on the console. This is for doing such tasks as 'adduser'. I'm just playing around with it right now but I've been able to successfully get 2 virtual servers running. At 10:50 AM 9/10/98 -0400, you wrote: >Dev, > > You doing the virtual server on fbsd? > >-j > >--- >Robert J. Adams radams@siscom.net http://www.siscom.net >Looking to outsource news? http://www.newshosting.com >SISCOM Network Administration - President, SISCOM Inc. >Phone: 888-4-SISCOM 937-222-8150 FAX: 937-222-8153 > >-----Original Message----- >From: Dev >To: Robert Adams >Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG >Date: Thursday, September 10, 1998 10:03 AM >Subject: Re: Chroot + Freebsd > > >>www.inetu.net click on products then on virtual >>server. >> >>Dev Chanchani - INetU, Inc.(tm) - http://www.INetU.net >> Electronic commerce - Web development - Web hosting >> dev@INetU.net - Phone: (610) 266-7441 >> >>On Wed, 9 Sep 1998, Robert Adams wrote: >> >>> Hello all, >>> >>> Was wondering is anything is running chroot'ed virtual servers.. we >are >>> thinking of moving all our vitual servers into a virtual environment so >that >>> they each have there own little system going on..then using something >like >>> xinetd to all the servers for each.. anyone done this? >>> >>> -Jason >>> >>> >>> --- >>> Robert J. Adams radams@siscom.net http://www.siscom.net >>> Looking to outsource news? http://www.newshosting.com >>> SISCOM Network Administration - President, SISCOM Inc. >>> Phone: 888-4-SISCOM 937-222-8150 FAX: 937-222-8153 >>> >>> >>> >>> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >>> with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message >>> >> >> >>To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >>with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message >> > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Sep 10 13:40:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA20769 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 13:40:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dialup.voltage.net (ns1.voltage.net [204.214.227.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA20684 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 13:40:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sward@voltage.net) Received: from arky (arky.voltage.net [204.214.227.12]) by dialup.voltage.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA15661; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 15:45:16 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from sward@voltage.net) Message-Id: <199809102045.PAA15661@dialup.voltage.net> X-Sender: sward@mail.voltage.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 15:34:25 -0500 To: Paul Stewart , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: Susie Ward Subject: Re: Dial-In Problems In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 12:18 PM 9/10/98 -0400, Paul Stewart wrote: >std.57600|57600-baud:\ > :np:sp#57600: You need to add 'pp=/usr/sbin/pppd' to your std.57600 entry like this: std.57600|57600-baud:\ :np:sp#57600:pp=/usr/sbin/pppd That may be it, it's not starting pppd automagically. HTH Susie To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Sep 11 02:57:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA11315 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 02:57:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mtsun.mc.ntu.edu.tw (mtsun.mc.ntu.edu.tw [140.112.133.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA11310 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 02:57:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tyl@mtsun.mc.ntu.edu.tw) From: tyl@mtsun.mc.ntu.edu.tw Received: from mtsun (tyl@mtsun [140.112.133.2]) by mtsun.mc.ntu.edu.tw (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id RAA01495 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 17:57:13 +0800 (CST) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 17:57:12 +0800 (CST) X-Sender: tyl@mtsun To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: mgetty for remote login Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In fact , I like to make a PPP Server with PAP authentication. But I failed So I like to try first if I can use Modem to "login" my FreeBSD Some institution or university use this way to make PPP links :) When I use HyperTerm of Windows 95 to dial in, after connecting... what I see is only bad codes that I cannot understand No "login :" appears... Here are my settings ... Source File mgetty-1.1.16 make -DBSD -DAUTO_PPP LIBS=-lutil /etc/remote cuaa1:dv=/dev/cuaa1:br#115200:pa=none /etc/ttys cuaa1 "/usr/local/sbin/mgetty -x 9 -s 115200 -n 1 -D" /usr/local/etc/mgetty+sendfax/login.config I ONLY enable the following line * - - /usr/bin/login @ Thanks for your help !! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Sep 11 05:03:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA22544 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 05:03:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from unix.kawartha.com (unix.kawartha.com [204.101.15.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA22537 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 05:03:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from paul@kawartha.com) Received: from shell.kawartha.com (shell.kawartha.com [204.101.15.43]) by unix.kawartha.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA02669 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 08:06:25 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 08:31:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Paul Stewart To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Offtopic: ISP In Glendale, CA Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi there... we are based in Peterborough Ontario Canada and need to contact an ISP (hopefully a FreeBSD based ISP) from Glendale, CA We have a very large client located in that area of whom is on MSN currently (yuk!) and they can't do what they need to do. They run their own SMTP based software and need to send email to their various manufacturing plants around the world. What we are looking for is an ISP that we can work with to bring this client onboard their system and get them away from MSN. The ISP should support standard PAP-PPP connections from a Windows 95 box with NO scripting etc... The ISP should also *not* block outbound port 25 access on their router or be able to assist the client in their mail issues. The problem they are having with MSN is that their email engine (Marshall-Soft Software) won't talk to MSN's *new* email system and MSN blocks outbound 25 access on their routers according to what we were seeing yesterday. This client is very important to us and we are looking for an ISP that will setup a complimentary dial-up account for a few days to allow testing. Once the testing is complete you will have a new dial-up customer and potential for other future business. Please drop me an email if you're interested. My apologies if this offtopic, it's just that most people on this list are personal unlike trying to talk to someone at MSN and ask them questions... what a joke that is...:) Thanks, Paul To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Sep 11 09:09:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA19832 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 09:09:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from thor.afnetinc.com ([206.40.232.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA19822 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 09:09:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from efinley@afnetinc.com) Received: from di-a0.afnetinc.com (di-a0.afnetinc.com [206.40.232.3]) by thor.afnetinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA29606; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 10:07:48 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from efinley@afnetinc.com) From: efinley@afnetinc.com (Elliot Finley) To: tyl@mtsun.mc.ntu.edu.tw Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mgetty for remote login Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 16:08:35 GMT Organization: Hiawatha Coal Company Reply-To: efinley@afnetinc.com Message-ID: <35f94a93.644000@mail.afnetinc.com> References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id JAA19828 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 11 Sep 1998 17:57:12 +0800 (CST), you wrote: Your problem is most likely that the modem is auto-bauding. Or at least that's what my modem calls it. You need to tell your modem to lock the port at one speed. On my USR sportster the command is AT&B1 >In fact , I like to make a PPP Server with PAP authentication. But I failed >So I like to try first if I can use Modem to "login" my FreeBSD >Some institution or university use this way to make PPP links :) > >When I use HyperTerm of Windows 95 to dial in, after connecting... >what I see is only bad codes that I cannot understand >No "login :" appears... > >Here are my settings ... >Source File > mgetty-1.1.16 > make -DBSD -DAUTO_PPP LIBS=-lutil > >/etc/remote > cuaa1:dv=/dev/cuaa1:br#115200:pa=none > >/etc/ttys > cuaa1 "/usr/local/sbin/mgetty -x 9 -s 115200 -n 1 -D" > >/usr/local/etc/mgetty+sendfax/login.config > I ONLY enable the following line > * - - /usr/bin/login @ > >Thanks for your help !! > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > -- Later Science (efinley@afnetinc.com) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Sep 11 10:02:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA27194 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 10:02:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from andraste.sunflower.com (andraste.sunflower.com [24.124.4.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA27188; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 10:02:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from isp@andraste.sunflower.com) Received: from localhost (isp@localhost) by andraste.sunflower.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA04205; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 12:04:36 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from isp@andraste.sunflower.com) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 12:04:36 -0500 (CDT) From: FreeBSD ISP Mailinglist To: Lee Reese cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Web Server Linux to FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <35DB258C.41C67EA6@gwinnett.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 19 Aug 1998, Lee Reese wrote: > Hi. I'm in the process of converting our web server from Slackware > Linux to FreeBSD (Apache). We need a down and dirty way to transfer the > /etc/passwd file to a format the FreeBSD understands. Please resopnd > via e-mail. Thanks. > > Lee > I would format the password file to fit FreeBSD standards ( make sure to have the passwd file not be shadowed ). We had to do this from IRIX to FreeBSD so what we did was format the file using perl and put in all the used :: entries. Then run "vipw" on your FreeBSD machine. Do a Ctrl-R to read in a file and read in that file. Save and you've added all those users... ------------------------------------------------------------------- Frank Wiles E-mail: ides@sunflower.com Asst. System Administrator Sunflower -- Datavision ------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Sep 11 11:15:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA07796 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 11:15:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from unix.kawartha.com (unix.kawartha.com [204.101.15.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA07787 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 11:15:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from paul@kawartha.com) Received: from shell.kawartha.com (shell.kawartha.com [204.101.15.43]) by unix.kawartha.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA17057 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 14:18:08 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 14:43:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Paul Stewart To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: referrer stat tracking Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org We currently run Apache for all our web servers etc. and run a standard log format. We have a customer who needs to track browser type, referrer etc... I understand Apache can generate that..how? :) Also, our stats package (analog) I don't think can read this info? If it can't, what's a good free package that can? Thanks very much, Paul To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Sep 11 12:08:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA20066 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 12:08:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.netdirect.net (mail.netdirect.net [204.120.164.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA20053 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 12:08:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from angrick@netdirect.net) Received: from fdc7.infostrm.com ([209.212.205.13]) by mail.netdirect.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id OAA27036; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 14:08:12 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19980911191137.0082be14@netdirect.net> X-Sender: angrick@netdirect.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 14:11:37 -0500 To: Paul Stewart From: Andy Angrick Subject: Re: referrer stat tracking Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org in the httpd.conf file you can specify these logs and their locations. Heres a snippet from on of mine. This should actually all ready be in your httpd.conf file. All you might have to do is uncomment them. ---begin--- # ErrorLog: The location of the error log file. If this does not start # with /, ServerRoot is prepended to it. ErrorLog logs/error_log # TransferLog: The location of the transfer log file. If this does not # start with /, ServerRoot is prepended to it. TransferLog logs/access_log # AgentLog: The location of the agent log file. If this does not start # with /, ServerRoot is prepended to it. AgentLog logs/agent_log # RefererLog: The location of the referer log file. If this does not # start with /, ServerRoot is prepended to it. RefererLog logs/referer_log -----end---- MKStats does a pretty good job of reading the logs for referer, browser, etc. Another tip is place the command: DNSMode Standard in the httpd.conf file if you want the logs to resolve domain names. Andy At 02:43 PM 9/11/98 -0400, you wrote: >We currently run Apache for all our web servers etc. and run a standard >log format. We have a customer who needs to track browser type, referrer >etc... I understand Apache can generate that..how? :) > >Also, our stats package (analog) I don't think can read this info? If it >can't, what's a good free package that can? > >Thanks very much, > >Paul > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Sep 11 12:28:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA23055 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 12:28:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from kapmail.com (srv.kapmail.com [206.31.219.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA23018 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 12:28:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from satya@dspsoft.com) Received: (qmail 14198 invoked from network); 11 Sep 1998 19:31:13 -0000 Received: from simba.dspsoft.com (206.31.219.210) by simba.dspsoft.com with SMTP; 11 Sep 1998 19:31:13 -0000 Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 15:31:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Satya Devireddy X-Sender: satya@srv.kapmail.com To: Paul Stewart cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: referrer stat tracking In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > We currently run Apache for all our web servers etc. and run a standard > log format. We have a customer who needs to track browser type, referrer > etc... I understand Apache can generate that..how? :) > > Also, our stats package (analog) I don't think can read this info? If it > can't, what's a good free package that can? I think analog can do that. Add these lines to configure analog3.0 to do browser type listing and referer listing and failed referer listing. ------analog.cfg (my settings) [...] LOGFORMAT (%S %j %u [%d/%M/%Y:%h:%n:%j] "%j %r %j" %c %b "%f" "%B") REFERRER ON FAILREF ON BROWSER ON [...] ------ also your apache server should be producing the correct logs try using the "combined" log format. Off the top of my I do not remember why, I changed my log format to the one below. note the missing "%>s" is "%s" LogFormat "%h %l %u %t \"%r\" %s %b \"%{Referer}i\" \"%{User-Agent}i\"" newlogformat Comments/Corrections anyone ? -Satya ----------------- Satya Devireddy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Sep 11 12:30:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA23599 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 12:30:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from horst.bfd.com (horst.bfd.com [12.9.219.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA23594 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 12:30:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ejs@bfd.com) Received: from HARLIE.bfd.com (bastion.bfd.com [12.9.219.14]) by horst.bfd.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA14722; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 12:30:12 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 12:30:12 -0700 (PDT) From: "Eric J. Schwertfeger" To: Paul Stewart cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: referrer stat tracking In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 11 Sep 1998, Paul Stewart wrote: > We currently run Apache for all our web servers etc. and run a standard > log format. We have a customer who needs to track browser type, referrer > etc... I understand Apache can generate that..how? :) If you've got the configurable logging module compiled into your server, the line LogFormat "%h %l %u %t \"%r\" %s %b \"%{Referer}i\" \"%{User-agent}i\"" will cause apache to log using the Combined Log Format. > Also, our stats package (analog) I don't think can read this info? If it > can't, what's a good free package that can? analog reads CLF just fine, from what I've seen. I don't remember having to tweek the config file to do this, but I could be wrong. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Sep 11 12:48:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA26216 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 12:48:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from devsys.jaguNET.com (devsys.jaguNET.com [206.156.208.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA26147 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 12:47:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@jaguNET.com) Received: (from jim@localhost) by devsys.jaguNET.com (8.9.1/jag-2.4) id PAA22300; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 15:47:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Jagielski Message-Id: <199809111947.PAA22300@devsys.jaguNET.com> Subject: Re: referrer stat tracking To: paul@kawartha.com (Paul Stewart) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 15:47:36 -0400 (EDT) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: jim@jaguNET.com In-Reply-To: from "Paul Stewart" at Sep 11, 98 02:43:01 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Paul Stewart wrote: > > We currently run Apache for all our web servers etc. and run a standard > log format. We have a customer who needs to track browser type, referrer > etc... I understand Apache can generate that..how? :) In the vhost area for that customer, add: LogFormat "%h %l %u %t \"%r\" %>s %b \"%{Referer}i\" \"%{User-Agent}i\"" If this is unclear, the LogFormat section of the Apache docs at www.apache.org go into more detail. > > Also, our stats package (analog) I don't think can read this info? If it > can't, what's a good free package that can? analog 3 handles this just fine :) -- =========================================================================== Jim Jagielski ||| jim@jaguNET.com ||| http://www.jaguNET.com/ "That's no ordinary rabbit... that's the most foul, cruel and bad-tempered rodent you ever laid eyes on" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Sep 11 21:50:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA24601 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 21:50:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from destiny.hacker.org (nvp.ne.mediaone.net [24.128.50.139]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA24596 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 21:50:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nvp@mediaone.net) From: nvp@mediaone.net Received: (qmail 23017 invoked by uid 603); 12 Sep 1998 05:53:58 -0000 Message-ID: <19980912055358.23016.qmail@destiny.hacker.org> Date: 12 Sep 1998 00:53:58 -0500 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: subscribe Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org subscribe freebsd-isp nvp@mediaone.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Sep 11 22:04:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA25835 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 22:04:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns1.walls-media.com (ns1.walls-media.com [12.6.126.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA25830 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 22:04:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bryanb@walls-media.com) Received: from bryanbun ([209.215.46.93]) by ns1.walls-media.com (Post.Office MTA Undefined release Undefined ID# 0-0U10L2S100V35) with SMTP id com for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 23:46:30 -0500 Message-ID: <000501bdde08$94a3a860$5d2ed7d1@bryanbun.bhm.bellsouth.net> From: "Bryan Bunch" To: Subject: Sendmail Question.. Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 23:48:26 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am trying to set up a client with a dial up ISDN to get mail via ETRN back to their Exchange server. I have read many docs and I understand the whole process, but I cannot find specific config info. for Sendmail. I am using 8.8.8 and the things I have so far are to set their Exchange server as primary MX and me as secondary MX. Do I add them to the sendmail.cw file since Sendmail will only be queuing mail for them? And what are the things I have to put into my .mc file to make all of this work. Thanks for any help... Bryan bryanb@walls-media.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Sep 12 09:04:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA14278 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 09:04:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from veronet.net (ns.veronet.net [199.227.78.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA14265; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 09:04:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mmoran@veronet.net) From: mmoran@veronet.net Received: from columbia (pm1-06.veronet.net [199.227.80.6]) by veronet.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA02714; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 12:10:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19980912120026.00888dd0@veronet.net> X-Sender: mmoran@veronet.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.2 (32) Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 12:00:26 -0400 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: 56k/ISDN terminal server? Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org While browsing the mail-order catalog, I noticed the new product can offer 56k/ISDN remote access on 24 port board in the server. That product called: Hayes' Century S/RAZ 24 port 56k boards. It has two boards (PCI) & 24 56k modems and sells for $6,429 according to the mail-order catalog. The problem is it only run on (ugh!) WinNT server. Now, I wondering are there anybody aware of this or working & testing that product with FreeBSD drivers or scripts like mgetty? That would be nice to see how well that product run by FreeBSD. I checked out the web sites of Cyclades, Comtrol and Digiboard to see if they offer simliar product or not. They didn't. Only time will tell. - Mike Moran To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Sep 12 09:43:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA17900 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 09:43:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from java.dpcsys.com (java.dpcsys.com [206.16.184.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA17895 for ; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 09:43:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@dpcsys.com) Received: from localhost (dan@localhost) by java.dpcsys.com (8.8.7/8.8.2) with SMTP id JAA13193; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 09:43:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 09:43:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Busarow To: Bryan Bunch cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sendmail Question.. In-Reply-To: <000501bdde08$94a3a860$5d2ed7d1@bryanbun.bhm.bellsouth.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 11 Sep 1998, Bryan Bunch wrote: > I am trying to set up a client with a dial up ISDN to get mail via ETRN back > to their Exchange server. I have read many docs and I understand the whole > process, but I cannot find specific config info. for Sendmail. I am using > 8.8.8 and the things I have so far are to set their Exchange server as > primary MX and me as secondary MX. Do I add them to the sendmail.cw file > since Sendmail will only be queuing mail for them? And what are the things I > have to put into my .mc file to make all of this work. Setting yourself as secondary and them as primary MX is the only thing you need to do. Well you need to convince NT to send you the ETRN command. A web search on +etrn +exchange should turn up that bit. Dan -- Dan Busarow 949 443 4172 Dana Point Communications, a California corporation dan@dpcsys.com Dana Point, California 83 09 EF 59 E0 11 89 B4 8D 09 DB FD E1 DD 0C 82 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Sep 12 09:43:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA17945 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 09:43:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from peak.mountin.net (peak.mountin.net [207.227.119.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA17938; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 09:43:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jeff-ml@mountin.net) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by peak.mountin.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA27392; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 11:43:11 -0500 (CDT) Received: from luthien-24.isdn.mke.execpc.com(169.207.65.24) by peak.mountin.net via smap (V1.3) id sma027390; Sat Sep 12 11:43:05 1998 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980912114152.0073f98c@207.227.119.2> X-Sender: jeff-ml@207.227.119.2 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 11:41:52 -0500 To: josh@zcompany.com, freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Subject: Re: misc/7873: poor initial configuration and documentation of kernel resources frustrating! Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199809092146.OAA23745@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 02:46 PM 9/9/98 -0700, josh@zcompany.com wrote: >>Description: >The capabilities database (/etc/login.conf) and the kernel resource >limitations are very poorly documented and caused us no end of grief >for a long time trying to extract the maximum performance from our web >servers. >>How-To-Repeat: >install a stock freebsd system and naively change maxusers and the >login class for your web server user and assume all is well :) >>Fix: >Before 3.0 is finalized, how about a generic "high performance" switch. >In specific, I find that we need to do the following to keep apache from >complaining with "resource not available errors": > >add these to the kernel: >options "CHILD_MAX=1024" >options "OPEN_MAX=1024" >options "SOMAXCONN=4096" >options "MAXMEM=(whatever is applicable)" >maxusers 512 Bruce Evans has been shaking his finger at this "old style tweaking" and here is his latest: ----The following reply was made to PR kern/7831; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Bruce Evans To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG, Roy.Nicholl@ASGtechnologies.com Cc: Subject: Re: kern/7831: Inclusion of kernel variable SOMAXCONN as a configurable option Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 21:06:22 +1000 >>Description: >In certain situations [i.e. high volume proxy server] it is necessary to adjust the value of >SOMAXCONN upward from its default of 128. Use the kern.ipc.somaxconn variable. SOMAXCONN shouldn't even be visible (since it it just misleading if someone has changed kern.ipc.somaxconn). Bruce ---- I'm not running -current, but I have 3 of the 4 options to change with login.conf and can recompile with a higher maxusers as needed. While 2.2.7 may not have the kern.ipc.somaxconn, a 'sysctl -a' and only that will list kern.somaxconn=X. >and give the user the web server runs as the login class "root" > >These are poorly documented, and given the amount of floundering I've >seen in the mailing list, I'd say a TON of other people run into these >problems. I don't even know if there is more I should do to get better >performance... ??? No documentation I've found in several months of >searching, so how am I to know? Don't know about a "TON", but been there done that: from login.conf(5) These resource limit entries actually specify both the maximum and cur- rent limits (see getrlimit(2)). The current (soft) limit is the one nor- from getrlimit(2) SEE ALSO csh(1), quota(1), quotactl(2), sigaltstack(2), sigvec(2), sysctl(3) My beef would be there is no reference for day to day tools like sysctl limits, at least the man page for limits references login.conf from limits(1) SEE ALSO csh(1), env(1), limit(1), sh(1), getrlimit(2), setrlimit(2), login_cap(3), login.conf(5) Grrrraaaahhhh! I'm used to man page hopping to find what I want and even resorted to checking /usr/includes for hints (almost started in the source code), but this was impossible until another old message from Bruce Evans (re bin/5306) tipped me off that there is no reason to tweak the kernel, so I went hunting. >FreeBSD really needs a way to easily get full performance from the >system. I personally don't mind the kernel taking up the extra memory, >it's a lot bigger hassle to figure out how to keep the stupid thing >from crashing and how to keep apache from running into resource >limitations. > >I'm not trying to be an ass, but I really think that this is a big >problem with FreeBSD. I almost punted on FreeBSD and went the route >of getting all of our CGI working under Linux because I couldn't get >the OS to simply run at it's full potential, and I really think this >should be treated as a bug. All operating systems have issues like >this (Linux and file descriptors/process, for instance), but to see >FreeBSD have more built in and undocumented restrictions and limitations >than Windows NT is really depressing :) Not to rant and rave about the issue, but I agree. There really isn't any documentation for building up a high traffic/load/processes web server, only the lists and the rules of tweaking have changed and I still don't have some things straight regarding the login.conf thing. The first mention of login.conf was in 2.2.2 and it bit me right after upgrading to 2.2.5, which wasn't fun. Not sure what exactly changed and I don't plan to install 2.2.2 on a machine to find out exactly. What I do recall is that I was a bit perturbed by this sudden change in behaviour. Whether classes were enforced or the limits for the default or root dropped, couldn't spawn and cannot forks errors started showing up in the thousands in Apache's logs. It never crashed, but I think the limits may have contributed to the delinquency of Apache's children, which only occured during peak times. This has been a periodic issue for myself since 2.2.5 and compiling in gdb (as suggested by Gary Palmer) didn't help when the process promptly exited upon connection. Since tweaking things like below there have no more runaways and my speculation is that the file descriptor limit was the main factor, since it was the most recently checked and adjusted. Login.conf is just a hassle for serious servers. Must admit that average joe won't have any problems and those that do are better equiped to figure it out, but it's still a pain. (This should part should probably drift over to ISP as well, so I'm CC'ing) Since I have some time, I think a Virtual Hosting tutorial would be an idea. Plenty of tweaking has been done on the new server I built for a client. Here are some snipits. The kernel was initally built with: maxusers 128 options CHILD_MAX=256 options OPEN_MAX=256 options SOMAXCONN=256 options NMBCLUSTERS=4096 Apache started generating spawn and fork errors after it's first weekend up and the traffic started building to weekday levels. Duh! Forgot about /etc/login.class and the root class (since Apache is started as root). root:\ :path=~/bin /bin /sbin /usr/bin /usr/sbin /usr/local/bin /usr/local/sbin:\ :cputime=infinity:\ :datasize=infinity:\ :stacksize=infinity:\ :memorylocked=infinity:\ :memoryuse=infinity:\ :filesize=infinity:\ :coredumpsize=infinity:\ :openfiles=infinity:\ :maxproc=infinity:\ :memoryuse-cur=32M:\ :maxproc-cur=64:\ :openfiles-cur=1024:\ :priority=0:\ :requirehome@:\ :umask=022:\ :tc=auth-root-defaults: Both memoryuse-cur and maxproc-cur were double to see if problem still existed. No effect, so openfiles-cur was doubled and that fixed it. After finding out about sysctl and checking values the options that were added to the kernel were removed. All is still well, but I noticed at some time in the future the openfiles value might need to be increased. Recompiled a kernel on a development server and compared values: maxusers=128 kern.maxproc: 2068 kern.maxprocperuid: 2067 kern.maxfiles: 4136 kern.maxfilesperproc: 4136 maxusers=256 kern.maxproc: 4116 kern.maxprocperuid: 4115 kern.maxfiles: 8232 kern.maxfilesperproc: 8232 That should allow for plenty of growth. The current peak for file descriptors reached 1680 total with 1509 for user www alone with 7 PERL processes running. Other values that may be of concern, but not changable in 2.2.7 without recompiling are: kern.somaxconn: 128 kern.maxsockbuf: 262144 Not sure if the 2nd is related to the NMBCLUSTERS option. Anyone? The peak that I have seen for 'netstat -m' is: 104/564 mbuf clusters in use 1157 Kbytes allocated to network (20% in use) This is definately higher than releases prior to 2.2.2 could handle and the NMBCLUSTERS option had to be used. Other options that I have seen recommended are: options "MAXDSIZ=(256*1024*1024)" options "DFLDSIZ=(256*1024*1024)" Never used either and login.conf should(?) replace these. Not they are still in LINT. What I ended up with in login.conf was user www having it's own class: www:\ :path=/bin /sbin /usr/bin /usr/sbin /usr/local/bin /usr/local/sbin:\ :cputime=infinity:\ :datasize=infinity:\ :stacksize=infinity:\ :memorylocked=infinity:\ :memoryuse=infinity:\ :filesize=infinity:\ :coredumpsize=infinity:\ :openfiles=infinity:\ :maxproc=infinity:\ :memoryuse-cur=64:\ :maxproc-cur=128:\ :openfiles-cur=2048:\ :priority=0:\ This easily handled 101 Apache processes in testing and 78 in real life. All pages are server parsed and there is extensive use of PERL CGI on this site. With a PPro200 and 256MB RAM it has room for growth. Some things to note about the login.conf entry. The 3 values with -cur should NOT exceed or equal what you system has available. There should be some leeway to prevent the server from crashing. Between the amount of RAM and sysctl, enough should be left for core processes. Hmmm... should tweak this a bit, the following were stripped from root's values: :priority=0:\ :requirehome@:\ :umask=022:\ :tc=auth-root-defaults: In some cases someone may wish to increase or decrease the priority. The umask may be a good idea for scripts that create files. User www does not have a valid home dir and requirehome is one more way to nail down no logins along with tc auth-www-defaults:\ :auth-login=krb_skey_or_passwd,passwd,kerberos,skey: Changing this is a bit fuzzin the man pages and takes some work to track down, but I can't seem to find it for the moment. Something like: auth-www-defaults:\ :auth=none: Or is none supposed to be "null" or "reject" instead? logingetstyle() isn't clear (to me at least). It would be a good idea to add an example for rejecting ALL logins to login.conf, which would be another way to lock out users... Uh, scratch that I forgot about /sbin/nologin, but a bit more detail on login_style would be helpful. In login_cap(3) it has a nice little section under logingetstyle(): This scheme allows the administrator to determine the types of authorisation methods accepted by the sys- tem, depending on the means by which the access oc- curs. For example, the administrator may require skey or kerberos as the authentication method used for access to the system via the network, and stan- dard methods via direct dialup or console logins, significantly reducing the risk of password discovery by "snooping" network packets. Not much in the way of examples around: auth-root-defaults:\ :auth-login=krb_skey_or_passwd,passwd,kerberos,skey:\ :auth-rlogin=krb_or_skey,kerberos,skey: Is there an 'auth-ftp' or 'auth-telnet' to further descriminate? Overall I'd say the original issue and related issues are just a matter of documentation. And we all know how well that is going. :/ Any comments suggestions would be appreciated and help me work out a tutorial for kernel tweaking for a web server, which is lacking and frequently asked about on the lists. Not to mention that Apache changed a bit with the 1.3.0 release. cheers! Jeff Mountin - Unix Systems TCP/IP networking jeff@mountin.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Sep 12 14:21:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA14198 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 14:21:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from the.oneinsane.net (gw.oneinsane.net [207.113.133.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA14163 for ; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 14:21:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from insane@the.oneinsane.net) Received: (from insane@localhost) by the.oneinsane.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) id OAA04583 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 14:20:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <19980912142059.A3695@oneinsane.net> Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 14:20:59 -0700 From: "Ron 'The Insane One' Rosson" To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Need Apache with php3 and SSL Support Reply-To: insane@oneinsane.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD the.oneinsane.net 2.2.7-STABLE X-Opinion: What you read here is my IMHO X-Disclaimer: I am a firm believer in RTFM X-WWW: http://www.oneinsane.net Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have this problem. I have an application that requires Apache to have SSL and PHP3 witha MYSQL database. I have tried to both install the modSSL apache and the PHP3 version and then tried to hack the other one in toapache. Has anyone done this. Right now I have a working Apache with PHP3 support Can someone help me to get SSL as well.. I have the SSL port installed still as a side affect. TIA Ron -- -------------------------------------------------------- Ron Rosson ... and a UNIX user said ... The InSaNe One rm -rf * insane@oneinsane.net and all was null and void -------------------------------------------------------- It's so nice to be insane, nobody asks you to explain. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Sep 12 15:21:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA19264 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 15:21:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from stingray.ivision.co.uk (stingray.ivision.co.uk [195.50.91.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA19251 for ; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 15:21:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from manar@ivision.co.uk) Received: from pretender.ivision.co.uk [194.112.61.54] by stingray.ivision.co.uk with smtp (Exim 1.62 #2) id 0zHy2H-0001dI-00; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 23:20:53 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980912231956.0088d880@stingray.ivision.co.uk> X-Sender: manarpop@stingray.ivision.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 23:19:56 +0100 To: insane@oneinsane.net From: Manar Hussain Subject: Re: Need Apache with php3 and SSL Support Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, julian@ivision.co.uk In-Reply-To: <19980912142059.A3695@oneinsane.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 14:20 12/09/98 -0700, Ron 'The Insane One' Rosson wrote: >I have this problem. I have an application that requires >Apache to have SSL and PHP3 witha MYSQL database. I have >tried to both install the modSSL apache and the PHP3 version >and then tried to hack the other one in toapache. Has anyone >done this. Right now I have a working Apache with PHP3 support >Can someone help me to get SSL as well.. I have the SSL port >installed still as a side affect. What version of Apache? It was a bit of a b*tch but I believe we got 1.2.6 with both SSL and PHP3. In the end we decided we'd probably run two different servers anyways (they run on different ports after all). Manar To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Sep 12 17:09:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA27135 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 17:09:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from the.oneinsane.net (gw.oneinsane.net [207.113.133.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA27129 for ; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 17:09:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from insane@the.oneinsane.net) Received: (from insane@localhost) by the.oneinsane.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) id RAA17194 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 17:09:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <19980912170909.A17038@oneinsane.net> Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 17:09:09 -0700 From: "Ron 'The Insane One' Rosson" To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Need Apache with php3 and SSL Support Reply-To: insane@oneinsane.net References: <19980912142059.A3695@oneinsane.net> <3.0.5.32.19980912231956.0088d880@stingray.ivision.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980912231956.0088d880@stingray.ivision.co.uk>; from Manar Hussain on Sat, Sep 12, 1998 at 11:19:56PM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD the.oneinsane.net 2.2.7-STABLE X-Opinion: What you read here is my IMHO X-Disclaimer: I am a firm believer in RTFM X-WWW: http://www.oneinsane.net Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Sep 12, 1998 at 11:19:56PM +0100, Manar Hussain wrote: > At 14:20 12/09/98 -0700, Ron 'The Insane One' Rosson wrote: > >I have this problem. I have an application that requires > >Apache to have SSL and PHP3 witha MYSQL database. I have > >tried to both install the modSSL apache and the PHP3 version > >and then tried to hack the other one in toapache. Has anyone > >done this. Right now I have a working Apache with PHP3 support > >Can someone help me to get SSL as well.. I have the SSL port > >installed still as a side affect. > > What version of Apache? It was a bit of a b*tch but I believe we got 1.2.6 > with both SSL and PHP3. In the end we decided we'd probably run two > different servers anyways (they run on different ports after all). > I am using version 1.3.1 of Apache and 3.03 of PHP3. Just thought of a stupid idea would it be possible to cgi the SSL end. ;-) I kinda like need it on the same server since it is only one application that needs both but a few more that needs only one or the other. Thanks for the quick input to my problem. TIA Ron -- -------------------------------------------------------- Ron Rosson ... and a UNIX user said ... The InSaNe One rm -rf * insane@oneinsane.net and all was null and void -------------------------------------------------------- It's so nice to be insane, nobody asks you to explain. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message