From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Nov 1 02:43:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA11562 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 02:43:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smmcroute.smmc.qld.edu.au (smmcdialin.ultra.net.au [203.56.101.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA11550; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 02:43:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bsd@smmcroute.smmc.qld.edu.au) Received: from localhost (bsd@localhost) by smmcroute.smmc.qld.edu.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA01168; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 18:31:46 +1000 (EST) Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 18:31:43 +1000 (EST) From: bsd To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: user ppp ondemand/routing hassle Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all, I have a newly insalled 2.2.5 on my machine(pentium power!)...works fine I can set up ppp for dynamicip (hey I'm writing on it!) but followed all the confs from my old 2.2.2 system (486 sx 33) ... rc.conf It is a name server gateway machine! resolv.conf hosts start_if.tun0 ppp.conf ppp.linkup (empty) ppp.secret (I think thats it!) Dials up to my semi-permanent ISP modem fine No goey-outey from my box though! Thought it was ppp.linkup doing a delete all....nope! Looked & looked can't see the hassle. Is there something about 2.2.5 I don't know about???? Hope you can help P.S. even tried re-installs...no go. Keith spencer townsville OZ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Nov 1 07:03:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA18085 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 07:03:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from laker.net (jet.laker.net [205.245.74.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA18059; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 07:03:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sfriedri@laker.net) Received: from nt (digital-pbi-119.laker.net [208.0.233.19]) by laker.net (8.9.0/8.9.LAKERNET.NO-SPAM.SPAMMERS.AND.RELAYS.WILL.BE.TRACKED.AND.PROSECUTED.) with SMTP id KAA30072; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 10:02:11 -0500 Message-Id: <199811011502.KAA30072@laker.net> From: "Steve Friedrich" To: "bsd" , "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" , "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" Date: Sun, 01 Nov 1998 10:00:37 -0500 Reply-To: "Steve Friedrich" X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Professional (2.01.1600) For Windows NT (4.0.1381;3) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: user ppp ondemand/routing hassle Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 1 Nov 1998 18:31:43 +1000 (EST), bsd wrote: > ppp.linkup (empty) ppp.linkup needs to have: add default HISADDR Unix systems measure "uptime" in years, Winblows measures it in minutes. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Nov 1 10:27:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA13470 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 10:27:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zeus.tds.edu (zeus.tds.edu [38.149.131.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA13465 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 10:27:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from willow@tds.edu) Received: from zeus.tds.edu (willow@zeus.tds.edu [38.149.131.15]) by zeus.tds.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA01087 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 13:27:37 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 13:27:37 -0500 (EST) From: Willow To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: tcpdump Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org when trying to run tcmpdump as root I get the following: tcpdump: /dev/bpf0: Device not configured Any ideas why? -- willow@tds.edu -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Nov 1 11:02:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA17561 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 11:02:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from postal.grin.net (postal.grin.net [209.104.220.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA17551 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 11:02:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jon@grin.net) Received: from fish.grin.net (jon@fish.grin.net [209.104.220.40]) by postal.grin.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA07211; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 11:38:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (jon@localhost) by fish.grin.net (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA24970; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 11:13:30 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: fish.grin.net: jon owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 11:13:30 -0800 (PST) From: Jon Villarreal To: Willow cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: tcpdump In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org You need to add the pseudo-device bpfilter into your kernel config and recompile. (from /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/LINT in 2.2.6-RELEASE) # The `bpfilter' pseudo-device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter. Be # aware of the legal and administrative consequences of enabling this # option. The number of devices determines the maximum number of # simultaneous BPF clients programs runnable. # The `disc' pseudo-device implements a minimal [...] pseudo-device bpfilter 4 #Berkeley packet filter Regards, Jon On Sun, 1 Nov 1998, Willow wrote: > when trying to run tcmpdump as root I get the following: > > tcpdump: /dev/bpf0: Device not configured > > Any ideas why? > > > -- > willow@tds.edu > -- > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Nov 1 11:08:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA18239 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 11:08:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from shemp.palomine.net (shemp.palomine.net [205.198.88.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA18232 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 11:08:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cjohnson@palomine.net) Received: (qmail 10083 invoked by uid 1000); 1 Nov 1998 19:08:12 -0000 Message-ID: <19981101140812.A10072@palomine.net> Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 14:08:12 -0500 From: Chris Johnson To: Willow , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: tcpdump References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: ; from Willow on Sun, Nov 01, 1998 at 01:27:37PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Nov 01, 1998 at 01:27:37PM -0500, Willow wrote: > when trying to run tcmpdump as root I get the following: > > tcpdump: /dev/bpf0: Device not configured > > Any ideas why? Yep. You need to compile support for bpfilter into your kernel. Stick this in your kernel config file and recompile: pseudo-device bpfilter 4 Chris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Nov 1 11:32:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA21720 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 11:32:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from www.nugate.com (www.nugate.com [206.111.60.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA21714 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 11:32:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from neilson@www.nugate.com) Received: (from neilson@localhost) by www.nugate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA10145; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 11:17:13 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 1 Nov 98 11:17:12 PST From: "D. Alex Neilson" To: Willow , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Alex Neilson Subject: Re: tcpdump In-Reply-To: Your message of Sun, 1 Nov 1998 13:27:37 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > tcpdump: /dev/bpf0: Device not configured bpf is the berkeley packet filter which is not compiled into the kernel by default. Just add this line pseudo-device bpfilter 16 into your kernel conf file and recompile. Alex To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Nov 1 11:34:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA22077 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 11:34:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA22066 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 11:34:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cassy@loop.com) Received: from patty.loop.com (patty-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.69]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA19359 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 11:36:24 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 11:33:09 -0800 (PST) From: "Cassandra M. Perkins" Reply-To: "Cassandra M. Perkins" To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Bus Error Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm running 2.2.5 on a Pentium 150Mhz computer. I increased the memory from 32MB to 128MB, before I installed a new kernel with the option to increase the memory limit. When I restarted the machine it came up with several segmentation faults when trying to start diffent processes. I reduced the memory to 64MB, but it still took a couple of reboots before the server would come up without the segmentation errors or a "Bus error" that kept coming up. I created a new kernel, tested it, and then re-installed the additional memory. Throughout, I had to boot a few times to get it to come up without the errors. Even without the segmentation fault at the beginning, I still encounter the "Bus error" complaint. Does anyone know what could cause the "Bus error"? Could it mean something is wrong with my kernel or hardware? Thank you. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Cassandra M. Perkins | People usually get what's coming to | | Network Operations | them... unless it's been mailed. | | The Loop Internet Switch Co., LLC | -fortune | ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Nov 1 11:46:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA24151 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 11:46:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zeus.tds.edu (zeus.tds.edu [38.149.131.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA24146 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 11:46:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from willow@tds.edu) Received: from zeus.tds.edu (willow@zeus.tds.edu [38.149.131.15]) by zeus.tds.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA00389; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 14:46:43 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 14:46:43 -0500 (EST) From: Willow To: "D. Alex Neilson" cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, Alex Neilson Subject: Re: tcpdump In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thanks, that's already been done, I used pseudo-device bpfilter 4 and it still doesnt work :( -- willow@tds.edu -- On Sun, 1 Nov 1998, D. Alex Neilson wrote: > > tcpdump: /dev/bpf0: Device not configured > > bpf is the berkeley packet filter which is not compiled > into the kernel by default. Just add this line > > pseudo-device bpfilter 16 > > into your kernel conf file and recompile. > > Alex > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Nov 1 12:22:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA00435 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 12:22:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from postal.grin.net (postal.grin.net [209.104.220.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA00427 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 12:22:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jon@grin.net) Received: from fish.grin.net (jon@fish.grin.net [209.104.220.40]) by postal.grin.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA09196; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 12:58:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (jon@localhost) by fish.grin.net (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA25960; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 12:33:15 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: fish.grin.net: jon owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 12:33:15 -0800 (PST) From: Jon Villarreal To: Willow cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: tcpdump In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Have you recompiled the kernel and rebooted using the new one? Regards, Jon On Sun, 1 Nov 1998, Willow wrote: > Thanks, that's already been done, I used > > pseudo-device bpfilter 4 > > and it still doesnt work :( To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Nov 1 12:22:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA00560 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 12:22:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zeus.tds.edu (zeus.tds.edu [38.149.131.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA00551 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 12:22:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from willow@tds.edu) Received: from zeus.tds.edu (willow@zeus.tds.edu [38.149.131.15]) by zeus.tds.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA00832; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 15:22:49 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 15:22:49 -0500 (EST) From: Willow To: Jon Villarreal cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: tcpdump In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Yes -- willow@tds.edu -- On Sun, 1 Nov 1998, Jon Villarreal wrote: > Have you recompiled the kernel and rebooted using the new one? > > Regards, > > Jon > > On Sun, 1 Nov 1998, Willow wrote: > > > Thanks, that's already been done, I used > > > > pseudo-device bpfilter 4 > > > > and it still doesnt work :( > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Nov 1 13:29:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA08870 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 13:29:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hp9000.chc-chimes.com (hp9000.chc-chimes.com [206.67.97.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA08809 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 13:29:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from billf@chc-chimes.com) Received: from localhost by hp9000.chc-chimes.com with SMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA246505678; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 16:27:58 -0500 Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 16:27:58 -0500 (EST) From: Bill Fumerola To: Willow Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: tcpdump In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 1 Nov 1998, Willow wrote: > when trying to run tcmpdump as root I get the following: > > tcpdump: /dev/bpf0: Device not configured > > Any ideas why? It would seem you need to add a line in your kernel, and then run ./MAKEDEV bpfN from your /dev/ directory. Though all this information can be found in the FAQ/handbook, or just by reading the man pages, which is both quicker and proactive. from tcpdump(1) SEE ALSO traffic(1C), nit(4P), bpf(4), pcap(3) from bpf(4) BPF(4) FreeBSD Kernel Interfaces Manual NAME bpf - Berkeley Packet Filter SYNOPSIS pseudo-device bpfilter The packet filter appears as a character special device, /dev/bpf0, /dev/bpf1, etc. - bill fumerola [root/billf]@chc-chimes.com - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800)252.2421 x128 / bfumerol@computerhorizons.com - BF1560 - "Logic, like whiskey, loses its beneficial effect when taken in too large quantities" -Lord Dunsany To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Nov 1 13:52:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA12062 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 13:52:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from phoenix (phoenix.aye.net [206.185.8.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA12056 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 13:52:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ratbert@phoenix.aye.net) Received: (qmail 10528 invoked by uid 2800); 1 Nov 1998 21:51:01 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 1 Nov 1998 21:51:01 -0000 Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 16:51:01 -0500 (EST) From: To: Jon Villarreal cc: Willow , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: tcpdump In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Try a 'MAKEDEV bpf0'. - Barrett On Sun, 1 Nov 1998, Jon Villarreal wrote: > Have you recompiled the kernel and rebooted using the new one? > > Regards, > > Jon > > On Sun, 1 Nov 1998, Willow wrote: > > > Thanks, that's already been done, I used > > > > pseudo-device bpfilter 4 > > > > and it still doesnt work :( > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Nov 1 14:11:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA15197 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 14:11:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zeus.tds.edu (zeus.tds.edu [38.149.131.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA15178 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 14:11:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from willow@tds.edu) Received: from zeus.tds.edu (willow@zeus.tds.edu [38.149.131.15]) by zeus.tds.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA02563; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 17:11:35 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 17:11:35 -0500 (EST) From: Willow To: Bill Fumerola cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: tcpdump In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've releady done the above as suggested, it still doesnt work for some reason. -- willow@tds.edu -- On Sun, 1 Nov 1998, Bill Fumerola wrote: > On Sun, 1 Nov 1998, Willow wrote: > > > when trying to run tcmpdump as root I get the following: > > > > tcpdump: /dev/bpf0: Device not configured > > > > Any ideas why? > > It would seem you need to add a line in your kernel, and then run > ./MAKEDEV bpfN from your /dev/ directory. Though all this information can > be found in the FAQ/handbook, or just by reading the man pages, which is > both quicker and proactive. > > from tcpdump(1) > > SEE ALSO > traffic(1C), nit(4P), bpf(4), pcap(3) > > from bpf(4) > BPF(4) FreeBSD Kernel Interfaces Manual > > NAME > bpf - Berkeley Packet Filter > > SYNOPSIS > pseudo-device bpfilter > > The packet filter appears as a character special device, /dev/bpf0, > /dev/bpf1, etc. > > > - bill fumerola [root/billf]@chc-chimes.com - computer horizons corp - > - ph:(800)252.2421 x128 / bfumerol@computerhorizons.com - BF1560 - > > "Logic, like whiskey, loses its beneficial effect > when taken in too large quantities" -Lord Dunsany > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Nov 1 16:41:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA07118 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 16:41:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zeus.tds.edu (zeus.tds.edu [38.149.131.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA07111 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 16:41:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from willow@tds.edu) Received: from zeus.tds.edu (willow@zeus.tds.edu [38.149.131.15]) by zeus.tds.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id TAA04551 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 19:41:42 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 19:41:42 -0500 (EST) From: Willow To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: re: tcmdump Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thanks for everyone's great help. -- willow@tds.edu -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Nov 1 19:00:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA20011 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 19:00:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from awfulhak.org (awfulhak.force9.co.uk [195.166.136.63]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA19979; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 19:00:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from woof.lan.awfulhak.org (root@woof.lan.Awfulhak.org [172.16.0.7]) by awfulhak.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA22891; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 00:43:54 GMT (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from woof.lan.awfulhak.org (brian@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by woof.lan.awfulhak.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA16043; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 00:44:30 GMT (envelope-from brian@woof.lan.awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <199811020044.AAA16043@woof.lan.awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: bsd cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: user ppp ondemand/routing hassle In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 01 Nov 1998 18:31:43 +1000." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 00:44:29 +0000 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Hi all, > I have a newly insalled 2.2.5 on my machine(pentium power!)...works fine > I can set up ppp for dynamicip (hey I'm writing on it!) > but followed all the confs from my old 2.2.2 system (486 sx 33) > ... > rc.conf It is a name server gateway machine! > resolv.conf > hosts > start_if.tun0 > ppp.conf > ppp.linkup (empty) Copy the sample file. The MYADDR: label should make things work. > ppp.secret > (I think thats it!) > Dials up to my semi-permanent ISP modem fine > No goey-outey from my box though! > Thought it was ppp.linkup doing a delete all....nope! > Looked & looked can't see the hassle. > Is there something about 2.2.5 I don't know about???? > Hope you can help > P.S. even tried re-installs...no go. > Keith spencer townsville OZ -- Brian , , Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour.... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Nov 1 21:21:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA07888 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 21:21:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bmccane.maxbaud.net (baud225.maxbaud.net [12.13.66.225]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA07867 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 21:21:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from root@bmccane.maxbaud.net) Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by bmccane.maxbaud.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA17850 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 23:21:00 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from root@bmccane.maxbaud.net) Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 23:20:57 -0600 (CST) From: Wm Brian McCane To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Majordomo tools Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Greetings, I am hosting several not-for-profit group mailing lists, and they have asked if I can put the archives up on a web page so that people can go back and dig up old articles. I know there is a tool for this used on the FreeBSD web pages and was wondering what it is and/or if it is publicly available. If not, does anyone know of something similar out there? brian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Nov 1 21:24:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA08491 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 21:24:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zeus.tds.edu (zeus.tds.edu [38.149.131.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA08462 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 21:24:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from willow@tds.edu) Received: from zeus.tds.edu (willow@zeus.tds.edu [38.149.131.15]) by zeus.tds.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id AAA09686 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 00:24:18 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 00:24:18 -0500 (EST) From: Willow To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: re: tcmdump In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org BTW, After following everyones directions it still didnt work, I reinstalled tcpdump from the CD source and it works great now. I have no idea why the original copy that was installed on the system didnt work but all seems to be ok now! Thanks again for all of the great directions and the quick response to the problem! You guys are great! -- willow@tds.edu -- On Sun, 1 Nov 1998, Willow wrote: > Thanks for everyone's great help. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Nov 1 22:37:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA18676 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 22:37:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dns.webwizard.net.mx (dns.webwizard.com.mx [148.245.50.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA18669 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 22:37:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eculp@webwizard.org.mx) Received: from webwizard.org.mx (dns.webwizard.com.mx [148.245.50.27]) by dns.webwizard.net.mx (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA00626; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 00:36:04 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from eculp@webwizard.org.mx) Message-ID: <363D52D3.BE41636A@webwizard.org.mx> Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 00:36:04 -0600 From: Edwin Culp X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5b2 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wm Brian McCane CC: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Majordomo tools References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Wm Brian McCane wrote: > Greetings, > > I am hosting several not-for-profit group mailing lists, and they > have asked if I can put the archives up on a web page so that people can > go back and dig up old articles. I know there is a tool for this used on > the FreeBSD web pages and was wondering what it is and/or if it is > publicly available. If not, does anyone know of something similar out > there? > > brian > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message We use hypermail and mhonarc. Both are in /usr/ports/www. Just add an alias something like this. list-name: "|/usr/local/bin/hypermail -i -u -d /usr/local/www/data/list-name -l "list-name Mailing List"", or this list-name: "|/usr/local/bin/mhonarc -add -outdir /usr/local/www/data/list-name" , both usually followed or preceeded by the majordomo line: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper resend -l list-name -h your.host.com list-name-outgoing" provecho ed To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Nov 2 07:53:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA28758 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 07:53:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from carp.gbr.epa.gov (carp.gbr.epa.gov [204.46.159.110]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA28751; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 07:53:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mjenkins@carp.gbr.epa.gov) Received: (from mjenkins@localhost) by carp.gbr.epa.gov (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA19976; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:52:46 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from mjenkins) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:52:46 -0600 (CST) From: Mike Jenkins Message-Id: <199811021552.JAA19976@carp.gbr.epa.gov> To: willow@tds.edu Subject: Re: tcpdump Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 13:27:37 -0500 (EST) > From: Willow > > when trying to run tcmpdump as root I get the following: > > tcpdump: /dev/bpf0: Device not configured > > Any ideas why? As everyone said, add the "bpfilter" line to a config file, rebuild the new kernel with this new config file, install the new kernel as /kernel (make install), and, lastly, reboot your system to start the new kernel! See "Configuring the FreeBSD Kernel" in the Handbook for more info. (Ahhh, a new FreeBSD homepage, nice.) This is a FAQ but I don't see it in the FreeBSD FAQ. Can someone add it? Mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Nov 2 09:06:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA08301 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:06:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from outland.cyberwar.com (outland.cyberwar.com [206.88.128.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA08294 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:06:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wjgrun@cyberwar.com) Received: from zippy (zippy.cyberwar.com [206.88.128.80]) by outland.cyberwar.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA18949; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:06:33 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.1.19981105120503.0091fbb0@pop.cyberwar.com> X-Sender: wjgrun@pop.cyberwar.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 12:06:00 -0500 To: jjw@us.net From: Bill Grunfelder Subject: Re: Expiring old mail? Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <3639FD5A.A01387BD@us.net> References: <19981026185229.A386@csw.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 12:54 PM 10/30/98 -0500, you wrote: >> Is "expire" like tool for the mail spool files? ># pkg_add ftp://ftp.us.net/pub/unix/freebsd/purgmbox-1.0.tgz ># purgmbox ? >Purpose: Purge old mail items from Unix mailbox files Is there a port for this? I was unable to locate one. Bill To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Nov 2 12:01:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA25717 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:01:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from asterix.webaffairs.net (port138.bonn.ndh.net [195.94.93.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA25712 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:01:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stefhe@gmx.net) Received: from obelix (obelix.webaffairs.net [192.168.10.3]) by asterix.webaffairs.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA16967; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 19:59:47 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from stefhe@gmx.net) From: "Stefan Herrmann" To: "Wm Brian McCane" , Subject: RE: Majordomo tools Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 19:59:18 +0100 Message-ID: <000401be0692$e4811810$030aa8c0@obelix.webaffairs.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I am hosting several not-for-profit group mailing lists, and they > have asked if I can put the archives up on a web page so that people can > go back and dig up old articles. I know there is a tool for this used on > the FreeBSD web pages and was wondering what it is and/or if it is > publicly available. If not, does anyone know of something similar out > there? Just have a look at "major cool": /usr/ports/mail/majorcool Ciao Stefan -- --- Communications powered by FreeBSD --- Stefan Herrmann Löwenburgstr. 81 D-53229 Bonn To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Nov 2 13:20:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA06638 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 13:20:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cs1.cityscope.net (cs1.cityscope.net [206.222.183.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA06610 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 13:20:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ingrid@cityscope.net) Received: from cityscope.net (194.cityscope.net [209.16.49.194]) by cs1.cityscope.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id PAA21786 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:33:27 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <363E21ED.D146DCED@cityscope.net> Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 15:19:41 -0600 From: Ingrid Kast Fuller Reply-To: ingrid@cityscope.net Organization: CityScope Net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD ISP Mailing List Subject: Bay Networks 8000 & FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am trying to upgrade one of our ISP's we manage, who has a Bay Networks RAC 8000 to V.90. Bay Networks is not supporting FreeBSD and I get errors when it tries to use the cc compiler. Bay says it doesn't use gcc but uses cc. So I've gone back and installed the source only and haven't compiled. Can anyone give me some help on compiling this? I would appreciate it, thanks. -- *********************************************************** Ingrid Kast Fuller (ingrid@cityscope.net) CityScope Computer Services Since 1984 CityScope Net (http://www.cityscope.net) 1(713)477-6161 109 West Southmore, Pasadena, TX 77502-1001 *********************************************************** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Nov 2 15:44:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA26900 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:44:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from unix.kawartha.com (unix.kawartha.com [204.101.15.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA26817 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:43:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pstewart@kawartha.com) Received: from shell.kawartha.com (shell.kawartha.com [204.101.15.43]) by unix.kawartha.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA07611 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 18:48:36 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 19:07:30 -0500 (EST) From: Paul Stewart To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: NFS Mounting For INN News Server Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Has anyone does NFS mounts under FreeBSD 2.2.7 to 2.2.6 and 2.2.5 machines for INN news server? Just curious if we're playing with bugs that I'm not aware of. Here's a quick rundown of what we'd like to do: 2.2.7 news server 135GB/1.2GB free on average 2.2.6 internal server 40GB/25GB free on average 2.2.5 internal server 85GB/45GB free on average I'd like to mount into some free space on two internal servers and offset some of the news spool to those machines. Any ideas? :) Paul To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Nov 2 22:48:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA26110 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 22:48:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from trans.hk.hi.cn. (trans.hk.hi.cn [202.100.192.171]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA26096 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 22:48:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from caijj@trans.hk.hi.cn) From: caijj@trans.hk.hi.cn Received: by trans.hk.hi.cn. (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA06005; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 14:43:49 +0800 Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 14:43:49 +0800 Message-Id: <199811030643.OAA06005@trans.hk.hi.cn.> To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Help me! Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Evrybody: My machine reboot uncertainly these days, I don't know the reason. I didn't find anything abnormal in the messages file. I just added a hard disk to the machine. Or someone attacked me? Can anyone give me some tips? Best regards! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 3 13:26:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA13098 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 13:26:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns1.cioe.com (ns1.cioe.com [204.120.165.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA13093 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 13:26:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from steve@ns1.cioe.com) Received: (from root@localhost) by ns1.cioe.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA01939 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 16:26:47 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from steve) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 16:26:47 -0500 (EST) From: Steve Ames Message-Id: <199811032126.QAA01939@ns1.cioe.com> To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: disk mirroring? Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Can anyone recommend a non-hardware method of disk mirroring? What I'm looking for is something akin to disk mirroring under NT4. ie I add another drive, declare it and an old disk part of a mirror set and data gets replicated and then subsequent writes go to both drives. The goal is so that if one drive crashes I can do a minimal amount of work and get things running on the mirror. I looked at vinum in the 3.0 release but it doesn't _appear_ to be able to do this. I would have to start over using vinum volumes and the boot sections would still have to be maintained seperately. If this just isn't possible, how about a clean way of during periodic whole volume copies? -Steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 3 14:00:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA18669 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 14:00:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from imap.noc.inc.net (imap.noc.inc.net [204.95.194.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA18654 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 14:00:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from steve@inc.net) Received: from inc.net (niki.noc.inc.net [204.95.194.201]) by imap.noc.inc.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA20765; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 16:00:17 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <363F7C79.AEA2279C@inc.net> Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 15:58:17 -0600 From: Steve Kaczkowski Organization: Internet Connect, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steve Ames CC: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: disk mirroring? References: <199811032126.QAA01939@ns1.cioe.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Steve Ames wrote: > > Can anyone recommend a non-hardware method of disk mirroring? What > I'm looking for is something akin to disk mirroring under NT4. ie > I add another drive, declare it and an old disk part of a mirror > set and data gets replicated and then subsequent writes go to both > drives. man ccd Should do what you need... -- Steve Kaczkowski Internet Connect, Inc. steve@inc.net (414)476-ICON x12 http://www.inc.net FAX(414)476-2403 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 3 14:05:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA19743 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 14:05:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns1.cioe.com (ns1.cioe.com [204.120.165.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA19723 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 14:05:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from steve@ns1.cioe.com) Received: (from root@localhost) by ns1.cioe.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA17243; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 17:05:03 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from steve) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 17:05:03 -0500 (EST) From: Steve Ames Message-Id: <199811032205.RAA17243@ns1.cioe.com> To: steve@inc.net, steve@ns1.cioe.com Subject: Re: disk mirroring? Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <363F7C79.AEA2279C@inc.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Can anyone recommend a non-hardware method of disk mirroring? What > > I'm looking for is something akin to disk mirroring under NT4. ie > > I add another drive, declare it and an old disk part of a mirror > > set and data gets replicated and then subsequent writes go to both > > drives. > > man ccd > > Should do what you need... Nope. ccd suffers from the same problems (for this application) as vinum: - requires that you start with either 'ccd' devices or 'vinum' volumes (existing data partitions need to be copied off and then back on...) - no real support for mirroring the 'root' partition What I really need is an abstraction layer above the standard disk devices where I can group a couple of standard disk partitiions together and achieve simultaneous writes (ie I write to the abstract layer, it writes to both partitions)... ccd and vinum both seem to do this but what I don't see is the ability to stop using vinum and just use the single partition if something happens to the other drive. Also I can't seem to stripe. Everything comes out concatentated :) Then there the issue of no 'root' partition support. -Steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 3 15:59:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA07354 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 15:59:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from amber.eaznet.com (amber.eaznet.com [216.19.20.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA07345 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 15:59:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eddie@eaznet.com) Received: from eaznet.com (admin.eaznet.com [216.19.20.16]) by amber.eaznet.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA10623 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 17:05:32 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <363F96D7.25951531@eaznet.com> Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 16:50:47 -0700 From: Eddie Fry X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: DPT & RAID 5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have recently purchased a PM2144UW and a RC4040 from DPT and wish to use it as a RAID5 controller under FreeBSD. Has anyone else done this? If so, what method did you use to set uo the adapter? Any pitfalls or areas of concern? Thanks, Eddie Fry EAZNet Internet Services To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 3 16:49:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA17009 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 16:49:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from shemp.palomine.net (shemp.palomine.net [205.198.88.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA16991 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 16:49:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cjohnson@palomine.net) Received: (qmail 19361 invoked by uid 1000); 4 Nov 1998 00:48:42 -0000 Message-ID: <19981103194842.A19317@palomine.net> Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 19:48:42 -0500 From: Chris Johnson To: Eddie Fry , isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DPT & RAID 5 References: <363F96D7.25951531@eaznet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <363F96D7.25951531@eaznet.com>; from Eddie Fry on Tue, Nov 03, 1998 at 04:50:47PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Nov 03, 1998 at 04:50:47PM -0700, Eddie Fry wrote: > I have recently purchased a PM2144UW and a RC4040 from DPT and wish to > use it as a RAID5 controller under FreeBSD. Has anyone else done this? > If so, what method did you use to set uo the adapter? Any pitfalls or > areas of concern? I've got a PM3334UW and it's working very well under FreeBSD 2.2.7. There are, however, definitely pitfalls and areas of concern. When I initially tried to install FreeBSD, newfs, when run from sysintall, would hang when formatting a 6.5GB partition. As per the suggestion of someone on the freebsd-questions list, I initially installed on partitions of 1GB or smaller, and then relabelled and re-newfsed things to get the sizes I wanted. It's worked flawlessly for me ever since. Apparently there are also problems with newer versions of the firmware. If you search the archives of the freebsd-questions list, you'll find a lengthy message posted a week or so ago by Simon Shapiro (who wrote the DPT driver) detailing some of the pitfalls and what you can do about them. I just found the message. You'll find it at this URL (make it fit on one line): http://www.dejanews.com/=zzz_maf/dnquery.xp?search=thread&svcclass=dnserver&recnum=%3cXFMail.981026204544.shimon_simon-shapiro.org@ns.sol.net%3e%231/1 Chris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 3 16:52:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA17586 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 16:52:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from etinc.com (et-gw.etinc.com [207.252.1.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA17567; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 16:52:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dennis@etinc.com) Received: from dbsys (dbsys.etinc.com [207.252.1.18]) by etinc.com (8.8.8/8.6.9) with SMTP id TAA28062; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 19:52:47 GMT Message-Id: <199811031952.TAA28062@etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@etinc.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 20:05:34 -0500 To: announce@FreeBSD.ORG From: Dennis Subject: HSSI for Freebsd Cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Emerging Technologies now has a HSSI board with PPP, Cisco HDLC and Frame Relay drivers for FreeBSD 2.2.7. info at http://www.etinc.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 3 17:04:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA18732 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 17:04:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from stingray.ivision.co.uk (stingray.ivision.co.uk [195.50.91.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA18727 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 17:04:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from manar@ivision.co.uk) Received: from bh-cw32-239.pool.dircon.co.uk ([194.112.60.239] helo=pretender.ivision.co.uk) by stingray.ivision.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.04 #1) id 0zarMQ-0003bF-00; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 01:03:46 +0000 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981104010101.00a9b1e0@stingray.ivision.co.uk> X-Sender: manar@stingray.ivision.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 01:01:01 +0000 To: Wm Brian McCane From: Manar Hussain Subject: Re: Majordomo tools Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I am hosting several not-for-profit group mailing lists, and they >have asked if I can put the archives up on a web page so that people can >go back and dig up old articles. I know there is a tool for this used on >the FreeBSD web pages and was wondering what it is and/or if it is >publicly available. If not, does anyone know of something similar out >there? >From a talk a while ago (check out MHonarc for this and majorcool for if you run more than the odd couple of lists): URLS ==== Majordomo-user and -workers archive, wilma, info on majordomo2, other pointers. http://www.hpc.uh.edu/majordomo Majordomo FAQ: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/~barr/majordomo-faq.html Majorcool http://ncrinfo.ncr.com/pub/contrib/unix/MajorCool/ MHonarc http://www.oac.uci.edu/indiv/ehood/mhonarc.html List indexes http://www.reference.com http://www.liszt.com http://www.tile.net List help and netiquette guides: http://www.hwg.org/lists/netiquette.html http://www.hwg.org/lists/rules.html http://www.fabrik.com http://www.lists.plaidworks.com/> http://www.city.grande-prairie.ab.ca/h_email.htm#Links_To_Guides http://ncrinfo.ncr.com/pub/contrib/unix/MajorCool/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 3 20:42:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA15441 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 20:42:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA15430 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 20:42:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id PAA01531; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:10:14 +1030 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) id PAA03066; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:09:46 +1030 (CST) Message-ID: <19981104150946.L784@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:09:46 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Steve Ames , steve@inc.net Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Vinum on root partition (was: disk mirroring?) References: <363F7C79.AEA2279C@inc.net> <199811032205.RAA17243@ns1.cioe.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <199811032205.RAA17243@ns1.cioe.com>; from Steve Ames on Tue, Nov 03, 1998 at 05:05:03PM -0500 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tuesday, 3 November 1998 at 17:05:03 -0500, Steve Ames wrote: >>> Can anyone recommend a non-hardware method of disk mirroring? What >>> I'm looking for is something akin to disk mirroring under NT4. ie >>> I add another drive, declare it and an old disk part of a mirror >>> set and data gets replicated and then subsequent writes go to both >>> drives. >> >> man ccd >> >> Should do what you need... > > Nope. ccd suffers from the same problems (for this application) as > vinum: > > - requires that you start with either 'ccd' devices or 'vinum' volumes > (existing data partitions need to be copied off and then back on...) Well, that depends, but in principle yes. > - no real support for mirroring the 'root' partition It's on its way. There's not much to do, but it needs to be done. > What I really need is an abstraction layer above the standard disk > devices where I can group a couple of standard disk partitiions > together and achieve simultaneous writes (ie I write to the abstract > layer, it writes to both partitions)... ccd and vinum both seem to > do this but what I don't see is the ability to stop using vinum and > just use the single partition if something happens to the other > drive. Ah, you're thinking in terms of ccd, where everything crashes if one drive goes down (thus lowering uptime instead of increasing it). If you lose one plex with Vinum, the others are unaffected. Here's a case from my test machine: vinum -> l -r obj V obj State: up Plexes: 2 Size: 400 MB P obj.p0 C State: up Subdisks: 2 Size: 400 MB P obj.p1 S State: down Subdisks: 4 Size: 400 MB S obj.p0.s0 State: up PO: 0 B Size: 200 MB S obj.p0.s1 State: up PO: 200 MB Size: 200 MB S obj.p1.s0 State: up PO: 0 B Size: 100 MB S obj.p1.s1 State: up PO: 100 MB Size: 100 MB S obj.p1.s2 State: up PO: 200 MB Size: 100 MB S obj.p1.s3 State: up PO: 300 MB Size: 100 MB > Also I can't seem to stripe. Everything comes out concatentated :) Both vinum and ccd can do both. You'll notice the "C" and "S" in the plex lines above, indicating one is concatenated, the other striped. > Then there the issue of no 'root' partition support. You said. Would you be interested if I implemented partition encapsulation? Basically, that would be a subdisk which is not part of a Vinum drive, so you could point to an existing disk partition. This would enable you to mirror in the way you planned, and would also make it easier to support root partitions. Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 3 21:13:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA18934 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 21:13:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gjp.erols.com (alex-va-n008c079.moon.jic.com [206.156.18.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA18929 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 21:13:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gjp@gjp.erols.com) Received: from gjp.erols.com (gjp@localhost.erols.com [127.0.0.1]) by gjp.erols.com (8.9.1/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA13427; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 00:13:21 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gjp@gjp.erols.com) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: Greg Lehey cc: Steve Ames , steve@inc.net, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: Vinum on root partition (was: disk mirroring?) In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 04 Nov 1998 15:09:46 +1030." <19981104150946.L784@freebie.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 00:13:21 -0500 Message-ID: <13423.910156401@gjp.erols.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Greg Lehey wrote in message ID <19981104150946.L784@freebie.lemis.com>: > > - requires that you start with either 'ccd' devices or 'vinum' volumes > > (existing data partitions need to be copied off and then back on...) Do you have background mirror creation/resynchronization? That seems to be a big thing missing from ccd. Its ok staying up after losing a disk, but if you have to keep the system down for a long period to dd the data around, that blows IMHO Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 3 21:16:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA19415 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 21:16:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA19407; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 21:16:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id PAA01664; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:46:20 +1030 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) id PAA03187; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:46:20 +1030 (CST) Message-ID: <19981104154620.Q784@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:46:20 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Gary Palmer Cc: Steve Ames , steve@inc.net, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Vinum on root partition (was: disk mirroring?) References: <19981104150946.L784@freebie.lemis.com> <13423.910156401@gjp.erols.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <13423.910156401@gjp.erols.com>; from Gary Palmer on Wed, Nov 04, 1998 at 12:13:21AM -0500 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wednesday, 4 November 1998 at 0:13:21 -0500, Gary Palmer wrote: > Greg Lehey wrote in message ID > <19981104150946.L784@freebie.lemis.com>: >>> - requires that you start with either 'ccd' devices or 'vinum' volumes >>> (existing data partitions need to be copied off and then back on...) > > Do you have background mirror creation/resynchronization? Yes. > That seems to be a big thing missing from ccd. One big thing. Lots of things are missing from ccd. > Its ok staying up after losing a disk, but if you have to keep the > system down for a long period to dd the data around, that blows IMHO Correct. Check out the web page (http://www.lemis.com/vinum.html). Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 4 02:03:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA27398 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 02:03:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mainzer.plusline.de (mainzer.plusline.de [194.231.79.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA27391 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 02:03:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from richard@mainzer.plusline.de) Received: (from richard@localhost) by mainzer.plusline.de (8.8.7/8.8.5) id LAA09557 for freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:03:28 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <199811041003.LAA09557@mainzer.plusline.de> Subject: Nokia 6110 with FreeBSD? To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:03:28 +0100 (CET) From: Richard Gresek Reply-to: rg@plusline.de X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm using FreeBSD on my notebook that has an infrared port configured as com2. I believed that the Nokia 6110 with its infrared interface could be used as an usual modem connected to the serial port. Unfortunately I had to learn, that a special software is needed that exists only for Windows. Does anybody know whether and how the Nokia 6110 could be used as modem with FreeBSD? Thanks Richard -- ==================> D P N <======================= =======> Deutsches Provider Network <============== Plus.Line Systemhaus GmbH Tel.: +49 69 7589150 Mainzer Lstr. 224 Fax : +49 69 75891533 D-60327 Frankfurt http://www.plusline.de =======> Deutsches Provider Network <============== ==================> D P N <======================= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 4 02:34:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA00660 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 02:34:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hack.babel.dk (hack.babel.dk [194.255.106.77]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA00649 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 02:34:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shredder@hack.babel.dk) Received: from localhost (shredder@localhost) by hack.babel.dk (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA24816 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:33:56 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:33:55 +0100 (CET) From: chrw To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: 3.0 init reports bus error Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, i just upgraded my news server to 3.0. unfortunatly after rebooting, the system comes up everything looks fine, init is started and reports "fatal: bus error". To my knowledge the hardware is fine, worked fine with way old 2.2.2. im kinda under time pressure so im gonna proceed to downgrading to 2.2.7 now, however i would be grateful if nyone might have a clue of causes this fatal error. CW To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 4 05:25:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA21565 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 05:25:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from server.noc.demon.net (server.noc.demon.net [193.195.224.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA21560 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 05:25:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fanf@demon.net) Received: by server.noc.demon.net; id NAA26497; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:25:08 GMT Received: from fanf.noc.demon.net(195.11.55.83) by inside.noc.demon.net via smap (3.2) id xma026478; Wed, 4 Nov 98 13:25:05 GMT Received: from fanf by fanf.noc.demon.net with local (Exim 1.73 #2) id 0zb38d-0005le-00; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:38:19 +0000 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: Tony Finch CC: Tony Finch Subject: Re: Nokia 6110 with FreeBSD? Newsgroups: chiark.mail.freebsd.isp In-Reply-To: <199811041003.LAA09557@mainzer.plusline.de> Organization: Deliberate Obfuscation To Amuse Tony Message-Id: Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:38:19 +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Richard Gresek wrote: > >I'm using FreeBSD on my notebook that has an infrared >port configured as com2. I believed that the Nokia 6110 >with its infrared interface could be used as an usual modem >connected to the serial port. > >Unfortunately I had to learn, that a special software >is needed that exists only for Windows. > >Does anybody know whether and how the Nokia 6110 could >be used as modem with FreeBSD? AFAIK the Nokia 61*0 phones don't include full modem functionality; you have to use a PCMCIA data card or a soft modem. The tiny 8810 does have a built-in modem which can only be used over the IR port because it doesn't have a connector for a data card. Tony. -- ocmcocmcocmk**f.a.n.finch dot@dotat.at fanf@demon.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 4 07:13:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA08419 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 07:13:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns1.cioe.com (ns1.cioe.com [204.120.165.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA08413 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 07:13:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from steve@ns1.cioe.com) Received: (from steve@localhost) by ns1.cioe.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA06958; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:13:07 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from steve) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:13:07 -0500 (EST) From: Steve Ames Message-Id: <199811041513.KAA06958@ns1.cioe.com> To: grog@lemis.com, steve@inc.net, steve@ns1.cioe.com Subject: Re: Vinum on root partition (was: disk mirroring?) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19981104150946.L784@freebie.lemis.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Ah, you're thinking in terms of ccd, where everything crashes if one > drive goes down (thus lowering uptime instead of increasing it). If > you lose one plex with Vinum, the others are unaffected. Here's a > case from my test machine: > > vinum -> l -r obj > V obj State: up Plexes: 2 Size: 400 MB > P obj.p0 C State: up Subdisks: 2 Size: 400 MB > P obj.p1 S State: down Subdisks: 4 Size: 400 MB > S obj.p0.s0 State: up PO: 0 B Size: 200 MB > S obj.p0.s1 State: up PO: 200 MB Size: 200 MB > S obj.p1.s0 State: up PO: 0 B Size: 100 MB > S obj.p1.s1 State: up PO: 100 MB Size: 100 MB > S obj.p1.s2 State: up PO: 200 MB Size: 100 MB > S obj.p1.s3 State: up PO: 300 MB Size: 100 MB I have things setup to stripe and thats what confused me. In my mind if I take 2 200M partitions and stripe across them I should end up with 1 200M plex (the other 200M being completely a mirror state). I can't have 400M because then if 1 drive goes bad I'm out half my data right? In your above example you have a striped plex with 4 subdisks. Each subdisk is 100M. The total capacity of the plex is 400M. If I write 400M of data to that and lose a subdisk don't I lose data? How is a "mirroring" setup configured? > > Then there the issue of no 'root' partition support. > > You said. > > Would you be interested if I implemented partition encapsulation? > Basically, that would be a subdisk which is not part of a Vinum drive, > so you could point to an existing disk partition. This would enable > you to mirror in the way you planned, and would also make it easier to > support root partitions. Ah. Sweetness. If I understand you correctly here that would be most excellent. Obviously you'd lose the striping efficiencies here since one of the subdisks ins't part of the vinum drive, but that would let you mirror things in a very simple manner and then support dual writes. You could probably also still read from the most unused drive while writing to both, this would give _some_ efficiencies. -Steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 4 08:17:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA17624 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 08:17:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from amber.eaznet.com (amber.eaznet.com [216.19.20.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA17614 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 08:16:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eddie@eaznet.com) Received: from eaznet.com (admin.eaznet.com [216.19.20.16]) by amber.eaznet.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA18479; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:22:40 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <36407BDF.EC2D2842@eaznet.com> Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 09:07:59 -0700 From: Eddie Fry X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Johnson CC: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DPT & RAID 5 References: <363F96D7.25951531@eaznet.com> <19981103194842.A19317@palomine.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Chris, thanks for the help! Now, if I can just get everything installed, updated, and restored in less than 8 hours... Oh, have you had any drives go bad in your array? How was the recovery process? Eddie Chris Johnson wrote: > On Tue, Nov 03, 1998 at 04:50:47PM -0700, Eddie Fry wrote: > > I have recently purchased a PM2144UW and a RC4040 from DPT and wish to > > use it as a RAID5 controller under FreeBSD. Has anyone else done this? > > If so, what method did you use to set uo the adapter? Any pitfalls or > > areas of concern? > > I've got a PM3334UW and it's working very well under FreeBSD 2.2.7. There are, > however, definitely pitfalls and areas of concern. When I initially tried to > install FreeBSD, newfs, when run from sysintall, would hang when formatting a > 6.5GB partition. As per the suggestion of someone on the freebsd-questions > list, I initially installed on partitions of 1GB or smaller, and then > relabelled and re-newfsed things to get the sizes I wanted. It's worked > flawlessly for me ever since. > > Apparently there are also problems with newer versions of the firmware. If you > search the archives of the freebsd-questions list, you'll find a lengthy > message posted a week or so ago by Simon Shapiro (who wrote the DPT driver) > detailing some of the pitfalls and what you can do about them. > > I just found the message. You'll find it at this URL (make it fit on one line): > > http://www.dejanews.com/=zzz_maf/dnquery.xp?search=thread&svcclass=dnserver&recnum=%3cXFMail.981026204544.shimon_simon-shapiro.org@ns.sol.net%3e%231/1 > > Chris > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message -- Eddie Fry EAZNet Internet Services To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 4 10:17:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA05147 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:17:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from chain.freebsd.os.org.za (chain.freebsd.os.org.za [196.7.74.174]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA05136 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:17:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from khetan@chain.freebsd.os.org.za) To: (original recipient in envelope at chain.freebsd.os.org.za) X-Disclaimer: Contents of this e-mail are the writer's opinion X-Disclaimer2: and may not be quoted, re-produced or forwarded X-Disclaimer3: (in part or whole) without the author's permission. Received: from localhost (khetan@localhost) by chain.freebsd.os.org.za (8.9.1+3.1W/8.9.1a/smtpfeed 0.89) with ESMTP id UAA28140; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 20:18:26 GMT (envelope-from khetan@chain.freebsd.os.org.za) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 20:18:26 +0000 (GMT) From: Khetan Gajjar Reply-To: Khetan Gajjar To: Tony Finch cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Nokia 6110 with FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 4 Nov 1998, Tony Finch wrote: TF> AFAIK the Nokia 61*0 phones don't include full modem functionality; TF> you have to use a PCMCIA data card or a soft modem. No, you don't. It's all done via software. There are two connect modes; one is via cable (preferred), the other is via the IR port. See http://www.affari.com/fulmine/CellPageHwSw.htm for details. --- Khetan Gajjar (!kg1779) * khetan@iafrica.com ; khetan@os.org.za http://www.os.org.za/~khetan * Talk/Finger khetan@chain.freebsd.os.org.za UUNET Internet Africa Support * FreeBSD enthusiast-www2.za.freebsd.org FreeBSD is like a wigwam - no windows, no gates, apache inside! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 4 13:22:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA07680 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:22:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from super-g.inch.com (super-g.com [207.240.140.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA07661 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:22:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from spork@super-g.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by super-g.inch.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA28318; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 16:18:47 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 16:18:47 -0500 (EST) From: spork X-Sender: spork@super-g.inch.com To: Eddie Fry cc: Chris Johnson , isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DPT & RAID 5 In-Reply-To: <36407BDF.EC2D2842@eaznet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 4 Nov 1998, Eddie Fry wrote: > Oh, have you had any drives go bad in your array? How was the recovery process? That's a good question! During some testing here, the rebuild goes fine, but there are two problems: - You have to be in the same room as the machine to hear it beeping so you know there's a failure. - You have to boot into the dos util that comes with it to initiate the rebuild. If there's a way to do this without the DOS step, I'm all ears... Charles > > Eddie > > Chris Johnson wrote: > > > On Tue, Nov 03, 1998 at 04:50:47PM -0700, Eddie Fry wrote: > > > I have recently purchased a PM2144UW and a RC4040 from DPT and wish to > > > use it as a RAID5 controller under FreeBSD. Has anyone else done this? > > > If so, what method did you use to set uo the adapter? Any pitfalls or > > > areas of concern? > > > > I've got a PM3334UW and it's working very well under FreeBSD 2.2.7. There are, > > however, definitely pitfalls and areas of concern. When I initially tried to > > install FreeBSD, newfs, when run from sysintall, would hang when formatting a > > 6.5GB partition. As per the suggestion of someone on the freebsd-questions > > list, I initially installed on partitions of 1GB or smaller, and then > > relabelled and re-newfsed things to get the sizes I wanted. It's worked > > flawlessly for me ever since. > > > > Apparently there are also problems with newer versions of the firmware. If you > > search the archives of the freebsd-questions list, you'll find a lengthy > > message posted a week or so ago by Simon Shapiro (who wrote the DPT driver) > > detailing some of the pitfalls and what you can do about them. > > > > I just found the message. You'll find it at this URL (make it fit on one line): > > > > http://www.dejanews.com/=zzz_maf/dnquery.xp?search=thread&svcclass=dnserver&recnum=%3cXFMail.981026204544.shimon_simon-shapiro.org@ns.sol.net%3e%231/1 > > > > Chris > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > -- > Eddie Fry > EAZNet Internet Services > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 4 17:10:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA17408 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 17:10:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA17384 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 17:10:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id LAA05973; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:40:32 +1030 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) id LAA06718; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:40:31 +1030 (CST) Message-ID: <19981105114031.S784@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:40:31 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Steve Ames , steve@inc.net Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Vinum on root partition (was: disk mirroring?) References: <19981104150946.L784@freebie.lemis.com> <199811041513.KAA06958@ns1.cioe.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <199811041513.KAA06958@ns1.cioe.com>; from Steve Ames on Wed, Nov 04, 1998 at 10:13:07AM -0500 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wednesday, 4 November 1998 at 10:13:07 -0500, Steve Ames wrote: >> Ah, you're thinking in terms of ccd, where everything crashes if one >> drive goes down (thus lowering uptime instead of increasing it). If >> you lose one plex with Vinum, the others are unaffected. Here's a >> case from my test machine: >> >> vinum -> l -r obj >> V obj State: up Plexes: 2 Size: 400 MB >> P obj.p0 C State: up Subdisks: 2 Size: 400 MB >> P obj.p1 S State: down Subdisks: 4 Size: 400 MB >> S obj.p0.s0 State: up PO: 0 B Size: 200 MB >> S obj.p0.s1 State: up PO: 200 MB Size: 200 MB >> S obj.p1.s0 State: up PO: 0 B Size: 100 MB >> S obj.p1.s1 State: up PO: 100 MB Size: 100 MB >> S obj.p1.s2 State: up PO: 200 MB Size: 100 MB >> S obj.p1.s3 State: up PO: 300 MB Size: 100 MB > > I have things setup to stripe and thats what confused me. In my mind if > I take 2 200M partitions and stripe across them I should end up with > 1 200M plex (the other 200M being completely a mirror state). I can't > have 400M because then if 1 drive goes bad I'm out half my data > right? No, you're misunderstanding. There is no data replication within a plex. Take 2 200 MB *subdisks* (Vinum doesn't talk about partitions) and stripe them together and you get a 400 MB plex. Put 2 400 MB plexes in a volume and you have a 400 MB volume with mirroring. > In your above example you have a striped plex with 4 subdisks. Each > subdisk is 100M. The total capacity of the plex is 400M. If I write > 400M of data to that and lose a subdisk don't I lose data? You do on that plex (obj.p1 in this example) > How is a "mirroring" setup configured? That's what obj.p0 is for. In this case, for example, the entire plex obj.p1 is down, but the volume is still accessible. >>> Then there the issue of no 'root' partition support. >> >> You said. >> >> Would you be interested if I implemented partition encapsulation? >> Basically, that would be a subdisk which is not part of a Vinum drive, >> so you could point to an existing disk partition. This would enable >> you to mirror in the way you planned, and would also make it easier to >> support root partitions. > > Ah. Sweetness. If I understand you correctly here that would be most > excellent. Obviously you'd lose the striping efficiencies here since > one of the subdisks ins't part of the vinum drive, but that would let > you mirror things in a very simple manner and then support dual > writes. Yes, there would be restrictions on the encapsulated partition. It would have to be concatenated, and it doesn't seem to make any sense to have more than one subdisk in that particular plex. The other plexes in the volume could have any organization, of course. > You could probably also still read from the most unused drive while > writing to both, this would give _some_ efficiencies. Sure, that's standard on Vinum. It reads from only one plex, by default in a round-robin fashion. By contrast, ccd always reads from the first of the pair. Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Nov 5 00:59:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA07842 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 00:59:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from topgun.asiapac.net ([202.188.0.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA07837; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 00:59:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sckhoo@asiapac.net) Received: from topgun ([202.188.0.106]) by topgun.asiapac.net (Netscape Messaging Server 3.52) with SMTP id AAAA0C; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 16:55:05 +0800 Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 16:55:05 +0800 (SGT) From: Swee-Chuan Khoo X-Sender: sckhoo@topgun To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-question@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: messanging proxy Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi, just went thro the Sun SIMS, which is pretty impressive, considering the super machine power. i am just wondering, is there any product which can do the messanging proxy function similar to the one in the SIMS? that will definitely solve my problem of scaling the mail server to more users. thanx ------------------------------------------------------------------- Swee-Chuan Khoo, sckhoo@asiapac.net | Not only do i speak for http://www.asiapac.net/~sckhoo/ | myself; I am myself ------------------------------------------------------------------- Silence is not an option when things are ill-done - Lord Alfred Denning To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Nov 5 01:26:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA11147 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 01:26:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gjp.erols.com (alex-va-n008c079.moon.jic.com [206.156.18.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA11141; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 01:26:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gjp@gjp.erols.com) Received: from gjp.erols.com (gjp@localhost.erols.com [127.0.0.1]) by gjp.erols.com (8.9.1/8.8.7) with ESMTP id EAA17109; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 04:23:38 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gjp@gjp.erols.com) To: Swee-Chuan Khoo cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-question@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: messanging proxy In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 05 Nov 1998 16:55:05 +0800." Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 04:23:37 -0500 Message-ID: <17105.910257817@gjp.erols.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Swee-Chuan Khoo wrote in message ID : > just went thro the Sun SIMS, which is pretty impressive, > considering the super machine power. Whats impressive is that they need such big machines for what SIMS does. I have a feeling they're trying to sell more servers :) According to the white paper on their web site, about the independant performance analysis of SIMS, I'd need 820 spindles in the message stores spool for our userbase (approx.). Using sendmail and qpopper I could probably do the same on less than 100 spindles. > i am just wondering, is there any product which can do the > messanging proxy function similar to the one in the SIMS? For POP3? Its not that difficult to DIY :) Its a couple of hundred lines of code, max. Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Nov 5 01:37:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA13240 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 01:37:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from trifork.gu.net (trifork.gu.net [194.93.191.246]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA13231 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 01:36:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fbsd@trifork.gu.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by trifork.gu.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA27958; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:33:27 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from fbsd@trifork.gu.net) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:33:26 +0200 (EET) From: Andrew Stesin Reply-To: fbsd@trifork.gu.net To: Ingrid Kast Fuller cc: FreeBSD ISP Mailing List Subject: Re: Bay Networks 8000 & FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <363E21ED.D146DCED@cityscope.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Would you please mind explaining what *exactly* are you doing and going to achieve? (I have some experience with Gay Networks 8000 RAS but I can't get the idea why do you need a compiler to use it). On Mon, 2 Nov 1998, Ingrid Kast Fuller wrote: > Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 15:19:41 -0600 > From: Ingrid Kast Fuller > To: FreeBSD ISP Mailing List > Subject: Bay Networks 8000 & FreeBSD > > I am trying to upgrade one of our ISP's we manage, who has a Bay > Networks RAC 8000 to V.90. Bay Networks is not supporting FreeBSD and I > get errors when it tries to use the cc compiler. Bay says it doesn't > use gcc but uses cc. So I've gone back and installed the source only > and haven't compiled. Can anyone give me some help on compiling this? > I would appreciate it, thanks. > -- Best regards, Andrew Stesin nic-hdl: ST73-RIPE To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Nov 5 03:22:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA24076 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 03:22:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from server.noc.demon.net (server.noc.demon.net [193.195.224.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA24070 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 03:22:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fanf@demon.net) Received: by server.noc.demon.net; id LAA11015; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:22:08 GMT Received: from fanf.noc.demon.net(195.11.55.83) by inside.noc.demon.net via smap (3.2) id xma010996; Thu, 5 Nov 98 11:22:01 GMT Received: from fanf by fanf.noc.demon.net with local (Exim 1.73 #2) id 0zbNhL-0006UM-00; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:35:31 +0000 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: Tony Finch CC: Tony Finch Subject: Re: Nokia 6110 with FreeBSD? Newsgroups: chiark.mail.freebsd.isp In-Reply-To: Organization: Deliberate Obfuscation To Amuse Tony References: Message-Id: Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:35:31 +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Khetan Gajjar wrote: >Tony Finch wrote: >> >> AFAIK the Nokia 61*0 phones don't include full modem functionality; >> you have to use a PCMCIA data card or a soft modem. > >No, you don't. It's all done via software. Hence the last clause of my sentence above. AFAIK the soft modem for Nokia phones is only available for Windows, so you have to use a PCMCIA data card with Unix. Tony. -- f.a.n.finch**waster dot@dotat.at fanf@demon.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Nov 5 03:58:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA27918 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 03:58:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from enterprise.sl.ru (enterprise.sl.ru [195.16.101.4] (may be forged)) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA27860 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 03:58:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tarkhil@synchroline.ru) Received: from enterprise.sl.ru (tarkhil@localhost.synchroline.ru [127.0.0.1]) by enterprise.sl.ru (8.9.1a/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA17760 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:59:34 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from tarkhil@enterprise.sl.ru) Message-Id: <199811051159.OAA17760@enterprise.sl.ru> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: tarkhil@synchroline.ru Subject: Annex Three, erpcd, radiusd X-URL: http://freebsd.svib.ru Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 14:59:33 +0300 From: "Alexander B. Povolotsky" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello! I am trying to set up Annex Three to authentificate users via radiusd. Radius is also responsible for giving IP address to user (including IP cache). It does authentificate, and all things looks like ppp is starting, but neither pppd form FreeBSD nor Win95 can establish connection. Here is debug from pppd: Nov 5 13:38:21 enterprise pppd[17417]: pppd 2.3.5 started by tarkhil, uid 1000 Nov 5 13:38:37 enterprise pppd[17417]: Serial connection established. Nov 5 13:38:38 enterprise pppd[17417]: Using interface ppp0 Nov 5 13:38:38 enterprise pppd[17417]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/cuaa0 Nov 5 13:38:38 enterprise pppd[17417]: Warning - secret file /etc/ppp/pap-secrets has world and/or group access Nov 5 13:38:38 enterprise pppd[17417]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 ] Nov 5 13:39:00 enterprise pppd[17417]: Modem hangup, connected for 1 minutes Nov 5 13:39:00 enterprise pppd[17417]: Connection terminated, connected for 1 minutes Nov 5 13:39:00 enterprise pppd[17417]: Serial link is not 8-bit clean: Nov 5 13:39:00 enterprise pppd[17417]: All received characters had bit 7 set to 0 Nov 5 13:39:01 enterprise pppd[17417]: Exit. I do have chap authorisation enabled in Annex, but attempt to authorise doesn't log from radiusd, while attempt to authorise via username/password issue something like Thu Nov 5 14:55:19 1998: [335] radrecv: Request from host 195.16.101.2 code=1, id=140, length=71 Thu Nov 5 14:55:19 1998: [335] User-Name = "tarkhil" Thu Nov 5 14:55:19 1998: [335] Password = "\371n\316\225\017.\235\215v"?\366\0 04\373\250\324" Thu Nov 5 14:55:19 1998: [335] Service-Type = 7 Thu Nov 5 14:55:19 1998: [335] NAS-IP-Address = 195.16.101.13 Thu Nov 5 14:55:19 1998: [335] NAS-Port = 1 Thu Nov 5 14:55:19 1998: [335] NAS-Port-Type = Async Thu Nov 5 14:55:19 1998: [5917] trying to execute command '/isp/bin/radservice Framed-User' Thu Nov 5 14:55:20 1998: [5917] trying to execute command '/isp/bin/getip' Thu Nov 5 14:55:20 1998: [5917] trying to execute command '/isp/bin/radtimeout 86400' Thu Nov 5 14:55:20 1998: [5917] Sending Accept of id 140 to 195.16.101.2 (195.16.101.2) Thu Nov 5 14:55:20 1998: [5917] Service-Type = Framed-User Thu Nov 5 14:55:20 1998: [5917] Framed-Protocol = PPP Thu Nov 5 14:55:20 1998: [5917] Framed-IP-Address = 195.16.101.138 Thu Nov 5 14:55:20 1998: [5917] Framed-MTU = 1500 Thu Nov 5 14:55:20 1998: [5917] Session-Timeout = 86400 Thu Nov 5 14:55:20 1998: [5917] Idle-Timeout = 600 Maybe someone can help? Alex. -- Alexander B. Povolotsky, System Administrator To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Nov 5 05:23:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA10069 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 05:23:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from backup.af.speednet.com.au (af.speednet.com.au [202.135.206.244]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA10059 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 05:23:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andyf@speednet.com.au) Received: from localhost (andyf@localhost) by backup.af.speednet.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA11482; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 00:20:34 +1100 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: backup.zippynet.iol.net.au: andyf owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 00:20:33 +1100 (EST) From: Andy Farkas X-Sender: andyf@backup.zippynet.iol.net.au To: "Alexander B. Povolotsky" cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Annex Three, erpcd, radiusd In-Reply-To: <199811051159.OAA17760@enterprise.sl.ru> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 5 Nov 1998, Alexander B. Povolotsky wrote: > I am trying to set up Annex Three to authentificate users via radiusd. Radius > is also responsible for giving IP address to user (including IP cache). > > It does authentificate, and all things looks like ppp is starting, but neither > pppd form FreeBSD nor Win95 can establish connection. Make sure your radius server is listening on ports 1812/1813, or change the radius entries in /etc/services to 1642/1643 ... -- :{ andyf@speednet.com.au Andy Farkas System Administrator Speed Internet Services http://www.speednet.com.au/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Nov 5 05:31:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA11644 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 05:31:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from enterprise.sl.ru (enterprise.sl.ru [195.16.101.4] (may be forged)) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA11634 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 05:31:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tarkhil@synchroline.ru) Received: from enterprise.sl.ru (tarkhil@localhost.synchroline.ru [127.0.0.1]) by enterprise.sl.ru (8.9.1a/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA18531; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 16:31:11 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from tarkhil@enterprise.sl.ru) Message-Id: <199811051331.QAA18531@enterprise.sl.ru> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Andy Farkas cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Annex Three, erpcd, radiusd In-reply-to: Your message "Fri, 06 Nov 1998 00:20:33 +1100." Reply-To: tarkhil@synchroline.ru X-URL: http://freebsd.svib.ru Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 16:31:10 +0300 From: "Alexander B. Povolotsky" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Andy Fark as writes: > >> I am trying to set up Annex Three to authentificate users via radiusd. Radiu >s >> is also responsible for giving IP address to user (including IP cache). >> >> It does authentificate, and all things looks like ppp is starting, but neith >er >> pppd form FreeBSD nor Win95 can establish connection. > >Make sure your radius server is listening on ports 1812/1813, or change >the radius entries in /etc/services to 1642/1643 ... Hmm... Raduis listens on 1645 [16:20] satellite:~ # grep radius /etc/services radius 1645/udp #RADIUS authentication protocol (RFC 2138) [16:22] satellite:~ # and it _does_ authentificate against Radius, but it seems like it doesn't get IP :-( Alex. > >-- > > :{ andyf@speednet.com.au > > Andy Farkas > System Administrator > Speed Internet Services > http://www.speednet.com.au/ > > > -- Alexander B. Povolotsky, System Administrator To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Nov 5 05:45:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA13127 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 05:45:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from backup.af.speednet.com.au (af.speednet.com.au [202.135.206.244]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA13118 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 05:45:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andyf@speednet.com.au) Received: from localhost (andyf@localhost) by backup.af.speednet.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA11519; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 00:43:58 +1100 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: backup.zippynet.iol.net.au: andyf owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 00:43:54 +1100 (EST) From: Andy Farkas X-Sender: andyf@backup.zippynet.iol.net.au To: "Alexander B. Povolotsky" cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Annex Three, erpcd, radiusd In-Reply-To: <199811051331.QAA18531@enterprise.sl.ru> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > From: Alexander B. Povolotsky > > >Make sure your radius server is listening on ports 1812/1813, or change > >the radius entries in /etc/services to 1642/1643 ... > Hmm... Raduis listens on 1645 My typo...yes - 1645/1646. > and it _does_ authentificate against Radius, but it seems like it doesn't get > IP :-( I dish out static IPs with a "Framed-IP-Address = 10.0.0.1" line in the 'users' file. I guess you want dynamic ips?? -- :{ andyf@speednet.com.au Andy Farkas System Administrator Speed Internet Services http://www.speednet.com.au/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Nov 5 06:59:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA21376 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 06:59:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from enterprise.sl.ru (enterprise.sl.ru [195.16.101.4] (may be forged)) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA21370 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 06:59:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tarkhil@synchroline.ru) Received: from enterprise.sl.ru (tarkhil@localhost.synchroline.ru [127.0.0.1]) by enterprise.sl.ru (8.9.1a/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA21470; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 17:58:39 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from tarkhil@enterprise.sl.ru) Message-Id: <199811051458.RAA21470@enterprise.sl.ru> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Andy Farkas cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Annex Three, erpcd, radiusd In-reply-to: Your message "Fri, 06 Nov 1998 00:43:54 +1100." Reply-To: tarkhil@synchroline.ru X-URL: http://freebsd.svib.ru Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 17:58:39 +0300 From: "Alexander B. Povolotsky" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Andy Fark as writes: >> and it _does_ authentificate against Radius, but it seems like it doesn't ge >t >> IP :-( > >I dish out static IPs with a "Framed-IP-Address = 10.0.0.1" line in the >'users' file. I guess you want dynamic ips?? Yes, we have working ip cache and we don't want to loose it. Alex. -- Alexander B. Povolotsky, System Administrator To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Nov 5 10:26:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA10596 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:26:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from manor.msen.com (manor.msen.com [148.59.4.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA10591 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:26:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wayne@staff.msen.com) Received: (from wayne@localhost) by manor.msen.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA16403 for isp@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:26:40 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from wayne) Message-ID: <19981105132640.A16368@msen.com> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:26:40 -0500 From: "Michael R. Wayne" To: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DPT & RAID 5 References: <36407BDF.EC2D2842@eaznet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.1i In-Reply-To: ; from spork on Wed, Nov 04, 1998 at 04:18:47PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 4 Nov 1998, Eddie Fry wrote: > Oh, have you had any drives go bad in your array? How was the recovery process? We had a 40GB rackmount RAID, DPT UW controller, max memory (all hardware from DPT). Ran it for a couple of weeks in RAID 5. >NEVER< got a reliable rebuild to occur. Involved DPT tech support who eventually threw up their hands and said "send it back, we can't fix it". Also speed tests in RAID 0 showed that DPT was FAR slower than running 3 SCSI controllers with ccd. This was about a year ago, YMMV. /\/\ \/\/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Nov 5 12:23:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA25706 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:23:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dream.future.net (future.net [204.130.134.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA25699 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:23:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tomthai@future.net) Received: from dream.future.net (tomthai@future.net [204.130.134.1]) by dream.future.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id OAA23744; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:12:43 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:12:42 -0600 (CST) From: "Tom T. Thai" To: "Alexander B. Povolotsky" cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Annex Three, erpcd, radiusd In-Reply-To: <199811051159.OAA17760@enterprise.sl.ru> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org since when did the code for the Annex 3 do radius? .............. .................................... Thomas T. Thai Infomedia Interactive Communications tom@iic.net TEL 612.376.9090 * FAX 612.376.9087 On Thu, 5 Nov 1998, Alexander B. Povolotsky wrote: > Hello! > > I am trying to set up Annex Three to authentificate users via radiusd. Radius > is also responsible for giving IP address to user (including IP cache). > > It does authentificate, and all things looks like ppp is starting, but neither > pppd form FreeBSD nor Win95 can establish connection. > > Here is debug from pppd: > > Nov 5 13:38:21 enterprise pppd[17417]: pppd 2.3.5 started by tarkhil, uid 1000 > Nov 5 13:38:37 enterprise pppd[17417]: Serial connection established. > Nov 5 13:38:38 enterprise pppd[17417]: Using interface ppp0 > Nov 5 13:38:38 enterprise pppd[17417]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/cuaa0 > Nov 5 13:38:38 enterprise pppd[17417]: Warning - secret file > /etc/ppp/pap-secrets has world and/or group access > Nov 5 13:38:38 enterprise pppd[17417]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 0x85c38d3d> ] > Nov 5 13:39:00 enterprise pppd[17417]: Modem hangup, connected for 1 minutes > Nov 5 13:39:00 enterprise pppd[17417]: Connection terminated, connected for 1 > minutes > Nov 5 13:39:00 enterprise pppd[17417]: Serial link is not 8-bit clean: > Nov 5 13:39:00 enterprise pppd[17417]: All received characters had bit 7 set > to 0 > Nov 5 13:39:01 enterprise pppd[17417]: Exit. > > > I do have chap authorisation enabled in Annex, but attempt to authorise > doesn't log from radiusd, while attempt to authorise via username/password > issue something like > > Thu Nov 5 14:55:19 1998: [335] radrecv: Request from host 195.16.101.2 > code=1, id=140, length=71 > Thu Nov 5 14:55:19 1998: [335] User-Name = "tarkhil" > Thu Nov 5 14:55:19 1998: [335] Password = "\371n\316\225\017.\235\215v"?\366\0 > 04\373\250\324" > Thu Nov 5 14:55:19 1998: [335] Service-Type = 7 > Thu Nov 5 14:55:19 1998: [335] NAS-IP-Address = 195.16.101.13 > Thu Nov 5 14:55:19 1998: [335] NAS-Port = 1 > Thu Nov 5 14:55:19 1998: [335] NAS-Port-Type = Async > Thu Nov 5 14:55:19 1998: [5917] trying to execute command > '/isp/bin/radservice Framed-User' > Thu Nov 5 14:55:20 1998: [5917] trying to execute command '/isp/bin/getip' > Thu Nov 5 14:55:20 1998: [5917] trying to execute command > '/isp/bin/radtimeout 86400' > Thu Nov 5 14:55:20 1998: [5917] Sending Accept of id 140 to 195.16.101.2 > (195.16.101.2) > Thu Nov 5 14:55:20 1998: [5917] Service-Type = Framed-User > Thu Nov 5 14:55:20 1998: [5917] Framed-Protocol = PPP > Thu Nov 5 14:55:20 1998: [5917] Framed-IP-Address = 195.16.101.138 > Thu Nov 5 14:55:20 1998: [5917] Framed-MTU = 1500 > Thu Nov 5 14:55:20 1998: [5917] Session-Timeout = 86400 > Thu Nov 5 14:55:20 1998: [5917] Idle-Timeout = 600 > > Maybe someone can help? > > Alex. > -- > Alexander B. Povolotsky, System Administrator > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Nov 6 06:20:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA04011 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 06:20:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from enterprise.sl.ru (enterprise.sl.ru [195.16.101.4] (may be forged)) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA03977 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 06:19:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tarkhil@synchroline.ru) Received: from enterprise.sl.ru (tarkhil@localhost.synchroline.ru [127.0.0.1]) by enterprise.sl.ru (8.9.1a/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA01868; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 17:20:55 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from tarkhil@enterprise.sl.ru) Message-Id: <199811061420.RAA01868@enterprise.sl.ru> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Tom T. Thai" cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Annex Three, erpcd, radiusd In-reply-to: Your message "Thu, 05 Nov 1998 14:12:42 CST." Reply-To: tarkhil@synchroline.ru X-URL: http://freebsd.svib.ru Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 17:20:55 +0300 From: "Alexander B. Povolotsky" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Tom T. Thai" write s: >since when did the code for the Annex 3 do radius? erpcd can. It looks like I've got two versions of Annex code: one cannot do ppp properly, and annother works only with UDP so it can't work with Radius. Someone has recently mistyped Bay Networks to Gay Networks. Looks like he is kinda right... Alex. -- Alexander B. Povolotsky, System Administrator To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Nov 6 07:19:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA09937 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 07:19:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zeus.tds.edu (zeus.tds.edu [38.149.131.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA09930 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 07:19:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from willow@tds.edu) Received: from zeus.tds.edu (willow@zeus.tds.edu [38.149.131.15]) by zeus.tds.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA14092 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 10:19:01 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 10:19:01 -0500 (EST) From: Willow To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: telnet account Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Anyone on the list willing to trade telnet accounts for testing and diagnostic purposes? If so email me off-list and I will set things up on this end. I would like accounts on as many backbones as possible for testing. I agree in advance and in writing if needed to abide by your AUP/TOS. -- willow@tds.edu -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Nov 6 10:24:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA07644 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 10:24:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zeus.tds.edu (zeus.tds.edu [38.149.131.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA07525; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 10:24:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from willow@tds.edu) Received: from zeus.tds.edu (willow@zeus.tds.edu [38.149.131.15]) by zeus.tds.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA18496; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:23:35 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:23:34 -0500 (EST) From: Willow To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: hosts.{deny|allow} Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm trying to block access to our freebsd (2.2.7) boxes from several domains and not having any luck. I have read the man pages on hosts_optiosn and hosts_access and tried to follow along without success. I would prefer to block based on IP (I have 10 class C's or so that need to be blocked) if possible. -- willow@tds.edu -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Nov 6 10:35:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA09903 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 10:35:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from kerouac.deepwell.com (deepwell.com [209.63.174.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA09883 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 10:35:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@deepwell.com) Received: (qmail 13003 invoked from network); 6 Nov 1998 19:01:43 -0000 Received: from terry.dcomm.net (HELO terry) (209.63.174.33) by deepwell.com with SMTP; 6 Nov 1998 19:01:43 -0000 Message-Id: <4.1.19981106095213.00ab5100@mail1.dcomm.net> X-Sender: freebsd@mail.deepwell.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 10:34:29 -0800 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: Deepwell Internet Subject: Consolidate or isolate? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org We run FreeBSD almost exclusively here and we have divided into two camps of thought. We're running all the standard services that every other ISP runs; DNS, SMTP/pop3, webserver, SSL webserver, shell server, radius and probably a few others that aren't popping into my head. Basically, we are divided here. Some people think that we should maintain a machine for DNS, a separate Radius server, a separate mail server...yadda yadda yadda. The other group says we should consolidate and throw DNS/Radius on one machine and work towards consolidating everything towards a few core machines. Obviously we'd have to watch the loads and not throw our large mail server and a large webserver together. And allowing shell accounts on the primary webserver or radius server seems a little risky. Can you all give me your input. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Nov 6 11:08:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA14507 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 11:08:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zeus.tds.edu (zeus.tds.edu [38.149.131.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA14478 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 11:08:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from willow@tds.edu) Received: from zeus.tds.edu (willow@zeus.tds.edu [38.149.131.15]) by zeus.tds.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA20223; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 14:07:34 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 14:07:34 -0500 (EST) From: Willow To: Deepwell Internet cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Consolidate or isolate? In-Reply-To: <4.1.19981106095213.00ab5100@mail1.dcomm.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org We were thinking about having the following: shell server smtp/pop mail server dns/radius server web/ftp server Maybe a seperate server for SSL. That should help "spread" the load around to all that machines. -- willow@tds.edu -- On Fri, 6 Nov 1998, Deepwell Internet wrote: > We run FreeBSD almost exclusively here and we have divided into two camps > of thought. We're running all the standard services that every other ISP > runs; DNS, SMTP/pop3, webserver, SSL webserver, shell server, radius and > probably a few others that aren't popping into my head. > > Basically, we are divided here. Some people think that we should maintain > a machine for DNS, a separate Radius server, a separate mail server...yadda > yadda yadda. The other group says we should consolidate and throw > DNS/Radius on one machine and work towards consolidating everything towards > a few core machines. Obviously we'd have to watch the loads and not throw > our large mail server and a large webserver together. And allowing shell > accounts on the primary webserver or radius server seems a little risky. > > Can you all give me your input. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Nov 6 12:05:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA23030 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:05:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from imap.ncsa.es (imap.ncsa.es [194.179.50.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA22911 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:04:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jesusr@es.freebsd.org) Received: from es.freebsd.org (modem224-102.ncsa.es [195.77.224.102]) by imap.ncsa.es (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA12011; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 21:03:12 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <36435602.2B62808B@es.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 21:03:14 +0100 From: Jesus Rodriguez Reply-To: jesusr@es.freebsd.org X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.7-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Willow CC: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: hosts.{deny|allow} References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I'm trying to block access to our freebsd (2.2.7) boxes from several > domains and not having any luck. I have read the man pages on > hosts_optiosn and hosts_access and tried to follow along without success. > > I would prefer to block based on IP (I have 10 class C's or so that need > to be blocked) if possible. Install tcpwrappers package and configure /etc/hosts.allow and /etc/hosts.deny. Other thing you can do is compiling FreeBSD with IPFIREWALL option and use ipfw for blocking any thing you want. JesusR. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Nov 6 12:57:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA01148 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:57:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from electric.tbe.net (electric.tbe.net [207.99.115.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA01134 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:57:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gary@tbe.net) Received: (qmail 23113 invoked from network); 6 Nov 1998 20:57:03 -0000 Received: from electric.tbe.net (gary@207.99.115.10) by electric.tbe.net with SMTP; 6 Nov 1998 20:57:03 -0000 Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 15:57:03 -0500 (EST) From: "Gary D. Margiotta" To: Willow cc: Deepwell Internet , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Consolidate or isolate? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org We run separate servers here... 1 Server = DNS/NIS (used to run Radius also until we got out of Dialup services) 1 Server = Mail/Secondary DNS 1 Server = WWW 1 Server = Shell accounts Works quite well and separates the load nicely. Plus, we don't have to make each of the machines extremely powerful. Most of our machines are still running the older Cyrix 6x86's, non MMX and we show no load on the servers. The big thing is that there is no one single point of failure with the multiple server idea. If mail goes down, you still have all the other services. Although, if you can't afford that much hardware, the one box for everything is a good start. We started out with 2 servers and then expanded little by little. We now have over 10 servers running for our services and a couple co-locates, and the multiple server idea has worked extremely well. ______________________________________________________________ -Gary Margiotta Voice: (973) 835-9696 TBE Internet Services Fax: (973) 835-2133 http://www.tbe.net E-Mail: gary@tbe.net On Fri, 6 Nov 1998, Willow wrote: > We were thinking about having the following: > > shell server > smtp/pop mail server > dns/radius server > web/ftp server > > Maybe a seperate server for SSL. > > That should help "spread" the load around to all that machines. > -- > willow@tds.edu > -- > > On Fri, 6 Nov 1998, Deepwell Internet wrote: > > > We run FreeBSD almost exclusively here and we have divided into two camps > > of thought. We're running all the standard services that every other ISP > > runs; DNS, SMTP/pop3, webserver, SSL webserver, shell server, radius and > > probably a few others that aren't popping into my head. > > > > Basically, we are divided here. Some people think that we should maintain > > a machine for DNS, a separate Radius server, a separate mail server...yadda > > yadda yadda. The other group says we should consolidate and throw > > DNS/Radius on one machine and work towards consolidating everything towards > > a few core machines. Obviously we'd have to watch the loads and not throw > > our large mail server and a large webserver together. And allowing shell > > accounts on the primary webserver or radius server seems a little risky. > > > > Can you all give me your input. > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Nov 6 13:16:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA03771 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:16:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.gwi.net (mail.gwi.net [204.120.68.142]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA03761 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:16:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fkittred@mail.gwi.net) Received: from mail.gwi.net (fkittred@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gwi.net (8.8.5/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA23094; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 16:16:22 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811062116.QAA23094@mail.gwi.net> To: Willow cc: Deepwell Internet , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: Deepwell Internet Subject: Re: Consolidate or isolate? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 06 Nov 1998 14:07:34 EST." Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 16:16:22 -0500 From: Fletcher E Kittredge Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 6 Nov 1998 14:07:34 -0500 (EST) Willow wrote: > > shell server > smtp/pop mail server > dns/radius server > web/ftp server Reliability and security are key. Minimize single points of failure. What systems depend on other systems for their proper function? Seperate zones of security. regards, fletcher To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Nov 6 13:59:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA09003 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:59:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail1.dcomm.net (mail1.dcomm.net [209.63.174.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA08995 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:59:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from terry@dcomm.net) Received: from terry ([209.63.174.33]) by mail1.dcomm.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release PO205e ID# DIGITALCOMMUNICATIONS-1997LS) with SMTP id AAA153 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:29:35 -0800 Message-Id: <4.1.19981106135151.009c12b0@mail1.dcomm.net> X-Sender: mail@mail.windjammer.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 13:58:37 -0800 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: terry@dcomm.net (Terry Ewing) Subject: Mail Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, We are currently running post.office as our mail server. We'd like to migrate to qmail, but we can't find a way to extract the passwords associated with the pop3 accounts. We've thought of a few ways to do this, including writing a perl script that actually sits on the pop3 port and proxies the requests saving the username and password as their mail clients send them over. Somehow I think that something would crash the proxy script and our production mail server would go down. Can anyone suggest a better way of moving everyone en masse? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Nov 6 15:32:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA21536 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 15:32:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from unix.kawartha.com (unix.kawartha.com [204.101.15.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA21531 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 15:32:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pstewart@kawartha.com) Received: from shell.kawartha.com (shell.kawartha.com [204.101.15.43]) by unix.kawartha.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA22918; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 18:38:00 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 18:56:08 -0500 (EST) From: Paul Stewart To: Deepwell Internet cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Consolidate or isolate? In-Reply-To: <4.1.19981106095213.00ab5100@mail1.dcomm.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Just my two cents worth... we used to run ALL services off of two servers when we first started out in the ISP industry....now we have 26 CORE servers running critical services... some of the decision depends on your size.... The thing we really like about running so many servers is that if one server happens to go down that doesn't have fault tolerance, then big deal.... our dial-up users can still surf, our websites are still online or whatever the case may be.... If you move to a few BIG servers with RAID5, dual fault tolerant power supplies etc.... that's great.. but what happens if you take a box down my mistake (software glitch whatever)... it's happened the best sys admin's out there.... oops! Time to reboot... while you're rebooting your whole operation if offline or a good majority of it... Personally, I just did this the other day... I was downing an IP address (virtual web account) as the customer now wants Front Page extensions which is on a seperate server... instead of downing the IP itself, I took down the entire ethernet for that server.... dumb mistake but it happens... however instead of taking down ALL our web customers at that moment, I only took down about 200.... :) If we had all web customers on one server, then more people would have been yelling.... thankfully either way, the server was only down for about 30-45 seconds.. but even so... Just my two cents worth... Paul On Fri, 6 Nov 1998, Deepwell Internet wrote: > We run FreeBSD almost exclusively here and we have divided into two camps > of thought. We're running all the standard services that every other ISP > runs; DNS, SMTP/pop3, webserver, SSL webserver, shell server, radius and > probably a few others that aren't popping into my head. > > Basically, we are divided here. Some people think that we should maintain > a machine for DNS, a separate Radius server, a separate mail server...yadda > yadda yadda. The other group says we should consolidate and throw > DNS/Radius on one machine and work towards consolidating everything towards > a few core machines. Obviously we'd have to watch the loads and not throw > our large mail server and a large webserver together. And allowing shell > accounts on the primary webserver or radius server seems a little risky. > > Can you all give me your input. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Nov 6 19:47:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA18965 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 19:47:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zeus.tds.edu (zeus.tds.edu [38.149.131.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA18951; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 19:47:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from willow@tds.edu) Received: from zeus.tds.edu (willow@zeus.tds.edu [38.149.131.15]) by zeus.tds.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id WAA03292; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 22:47:10 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 22:47:10 -0500 (EST) From: Willow To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: telnet account Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org People running NT and other OS's that dont have 'shell/telnet' accounts can still have a free account here for testing as long as you follow our TOS/AUP. -- willow@tds.edu -- On Fri, 6 Nov 1998, Willow wrote: > Anyone on the list willing to trade telnet accounts for testing and > diagnostic purposes? If so email me off-list and I will set things up on > this end. > > I would like accounts on as many backbones as possible for testing. I > agree in advance and in writing if needed to abide by your AUP/TOS. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Nov 6 22:11:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA29828 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 22:11:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from phoenix (phoenix.aye.net [206.185.8.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA29823 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 22:11:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ratbert@phoenix.aye.net) Received: (qmail 16975 invoked by uid 2800); 7 Nov 1998 06:10:03 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 7 Nov 1998 06:10:03 -0000 Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 01:10:03 -0500 (EST) From: To: Terry Ewing cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Mail In-Reply-To: <4.1.19981106135151.009c12b0@mail1.dcomm.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org If the authentication info for post.office is stored in a text file and if a DES or MD5 password scheme is used you may be able to do some awking and grepping and create a master.passwd formatted type file from the info in it (or an /etc/poppasswd if you use checklocalpwd.c and go the virtual pop route). - Barrett On Fri, 6 Nov 1998, Terry Ewing wrote: > Hi, > > We are currently running post.office as our mail server. We'd like to > migrate to qmail, but we can't find a way to extract the passwords > associated with the pop3 accounts. We've thought of a few ways to do this, > including writing a perl script that actually sits on the pop3 port and > proxies the requests saving the username and password as their mail clients > send them over. > > Somehow I think that something would crash the proxy script and our > production mail server would go down. Can anyone suggest a better way of > moving everyone en masse? > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message