From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Dec 13 03:42:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA18933 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 03:42:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freebsd.dk (sos.freebsd.dk [212.242.42.180]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA18918; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 03:42:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sos@freebsd.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by freebsd.dk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA41440; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 12:41:49 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from sos) From: Søren Schmidt Message-Id: <199812131141.MAA41440@freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: [Free BSD] X-windows settings for Dell Latitude CPi In-Reply-To: from Guilhem Ensuque at "Dec 1, 1998 5: 4: 5 pm" To: guilhem.ensuque@bt-sys.bt.co.uk (Guilhem Ensuque) Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 12:41:49 +0100 (CET) Cc: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org It seems Guilhem Ensuque wrote: > > The Dells we purchased don't come with any technical specs of the > display. The models we have are the CPi D300XT and Dell support are less > than helpful... I know some of you mentioned installing X Windows, so I > would be more than grateful if someone could send the settings they used > for the display: Dunno if you got an answer yet, but you should use the latest XFree86 SVGA server (version 3.3.3), it has support for the Neomagic 2160 chip that the latitude uses, and it works just dandy.. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Søren Schmidt (sos@freebsd.org) FreeBSD Core Team member To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Dec 13 03:50:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA19740 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 03:50:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freebsd.dk (sos.freebsd.dk [212.242.42.180]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA19664; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 03:49:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sos@freebsd.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by freebsd.dk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA41456; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 12:49:19 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from sos) From: Søren Schmidt Message-Id: <199812131149.MAA41456@freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: Dell latitude sound.... In-Reply-To: <199812111944.UAA35024@freebsd.dk> from =?ISO-8859-1?Q?S=F8ren_Schmidt?= at "Dec 11, 1998 8:44:38 pm" To: sos@freebsd.dk (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?S=F8ren?= Schmidt) Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 12:49:19 +0100 (CET) Cc: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG, luigi@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org It seems Søren Schmidt wrote: > > > I've played around with the Crystal chip (cs4237b) in my latitude, > but damn if I can get it to accept configuring commands via either > PnP or the SLAM method, anybody else having some success at this ? Well, I finally broke down and tried to figure out where the BIOS puts the chip on boot. It puts the WSS codec at adress 0x530, which is quite normal, but the snd code looks for it at ioaddr+4 so the following wierd pcm0 entry makes it work: device pcm0 at isa? port 0x52c tty irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x13 That does the trick, and I can now enjoy 16 bit sound etc on my latitude :) Btw, it also puts the CS4237 ctrl regs at 0x210, if anybody feels like playing with the 3D SRS stuff :) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Søren Schmidt (sos@freebsd.org) FreeBSD Core Team member To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Dec 13 07:12:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA07405 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 07:12:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA07398; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 07:12:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id NAA01150; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 13:58:54 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199812131258.NAA01150@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: Dell latitude sound.... To: sos@freebsd.dk (Søren Schmidt) Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 13:58:53 +0100 (MET) Cc: sos@freebsd.dk, mobile@FreeBSD.ORG, luigi@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199812131149.MAA41456@freebsd.dk> from "Søren Schmidt" at Dec 13, 98 12:49:00 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > It seems Søren Schmidt wrote: > > > > I've played around with the Crystal chip (cs4237b) in my latitude, > > but damn if I can get it to accept configuring commands via either > > PnP or the SLAM method, anybody else having some success at this ? > > Well, I finally broke down and tried to figure out where the BIOS > puts the chip on boot. It puts the WSS codec at adress 0x530, which > is quite normal, but the snd code looks for it at ioaddr+4 so actually -- the normal address for the codec registers in WSS cards is 0x534. The driver, yes, looks at ioaddr+4 and asks you to specify 0x530 instead because most old MSS cards allocated four configuration registers before. I think i have to fix the driver so that it looks _both_ at ioaddr and ioaddr+4 for the codec registers. luigi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Dec 13 07:13:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA07500 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 07:13:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freebsd.dk (sos.freebsd.dk [212.242.42.180]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA07495; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 07:13:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sos@freebsd.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by freebsd.dk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA41880; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 16:13:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from sos) From: Søren Schmidt Message-Id: <199812131513.QAA41880@freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: Dell latitude sound.... In-Reply-To: <199812131258.NAA01150@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> from Luigi Rizzo at "Dec 13, 1998 1:58:53 pm" To: luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it (Luigi Rizzo) Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 16:13:21 +0100 (CET) Cc: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG, luigi@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org It seems Luigi Rizzo wrote: > > It seems Søren Schmidt wrote: > > > > > > I've played around with the Crystal chip (cs4237b) in my latitude, > > > but damn if I can get it to accept configuring commands via either > > > PnP or the SLAM method, anybody else having some success at this ? > > > > Well, I finally broke down and tried to figure out where the BIOS > > puts the chip on boot. It puts the WSS codec at adress 0x530, which > > is quite normal, but the snd code looks for it at ioaddr+4 so > > actually -- the normal address for the codec registers in WSS cards > is 0x534. The driver, yes, looks at ioaddr+4 and asks you to specify > 0x530 instead because most old MSS cards allocated four configuration > registers before. > > I think i have to fix the driver so that it looks _both_ at ioaddr and > ioaddr+4 for the codec registers. That would be nice, and save some confusion... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Søren Schmidt (sos@freebsd.org) FreeBSD Core Team member To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Dec 13 22:09:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA02659 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 22:09:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from firewall.scitec.com.au (fgate.scitec.com.au [203.17.180.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA02642; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 22:09:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from john.saunders@scitec.com.au) Received: by firewall.scitec.com.au; id RAA13463; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 17:09:42 +1100 (EST) Received: from mailhub.scitec.com.au(203.17.180.131) by fgate.scitec.com.au via smap (3.2) id xma013443; Mon, 14 Dec 98 17:09:15 +1100 Received: from saruman (saruman.scitec.com.au [203.17.182.108]) by mailhub.scitec.com.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA06013; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 17:09:15 +1100 From: "John Saunders" To: "FreeBSD current" Cc: Subject: RE: HEADS UP : laptop power-down change Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 17:09:15 +1100 Message-ID: <003001be2728$46d0d9a0$6cb611cb@saruman.scitec.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <199812112115.OAA04520@harmony.village.org> X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > : Now in the subcase that you're running FreeBSD on i386 with no monitor > : ROM, then I don't what's wrong with making '-h' and '-p' degenerate, > : ie, they both do the same thing: halt the system and cause a power off. > > Also agreed. > > For a power managed i386 system, I see no benefit from not mapping the > two to the same thing. As long as you provide a way for halting without powering down then I don't really care. I have a power managed machine and I _do_not_ want it to power down when I halt it. At least the "-p == power down" and "-h == halt" argument provides me with both the options I need. Your option removes the very option that I want, with no replacement mechanism. Cheers. -- . +-------------------------------------------------------+ ,--_|\ | John Saunders mailto:John.Saunders@scitec.com.au | / Oz \ | SCITEC LIMITED Phone +61294289563 Fax +61294289933 | \_,--\_/ | "By the time you make ends meet, they move the ends." | v +-------------------------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Dec 14 06:02:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA24544 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 06:02:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zed.ludd.luth.se (zed.ludd.luth.se [130.240.16.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA24514 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 06:01:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pb@ludd.luth.se) Received: from father.ludd.luth.se (pb@father.ludd.luth.se [130.240.16.18]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA27825 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 15:01:50 +0100 From: Peter Brevik Received: (pb@localhost) by father.ludd.luth.se (8.6.11/8.6.11) id PAA08799 for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 15:01:49 +0100 Message-Id: <199812141401.PAA08799@father.ludd.luth.se> Subject: Testresult, GSM-Data with Unix To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 15:01:49 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL15 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I tested "Ascom Axento" with the RS232 cable. It manages the ATDT, +++, ATH, commands. And sends the "CONNECT 9600/LAP" and "NO CARRIER" responses. Using a terminal program. Seems this phone will do under Unixes.. However the standbytime is short. It was 43h with standard battery and 152h with the bigger version. I will put info on this on my www page as soon I find out more. http://wave.campus.luth.se/~pb/comp/os/unix/mobile_unix.html /Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Dec 14 12:20:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA06468 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 12:20:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp-gw.BayNetworks.COM (ns1.BayNetworks.COM [134.177.3.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA06448 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 12:20:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bwithrow@BayNetworks.COM) Received: from mailhost.BayNetworks.COM (screen2r.BayNetworks.COM [134.177.3.1]) by smtp-gw.BayNetworks.COM (8.9.1/BNET-98/09/30-E) with ESMTP id MAA19904 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 12:19:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox.engeast.BayNetworks.COM (pobox.engeast.baynetworks.com [192.32.61.6]) by mailhost.BayNetworks.COM (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA11366 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 12:19:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from tuva.engeast.baynetworks.com (tuva [192.32.68.38]) by pobox.engeast.BayNetworks.COM (SMI-8.6/BNET-97/04/24-S) with ESMTP id PAA08596; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 15:19:33 -0500 for Received: from tuva.engeast.baynetworks.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tuva.engeast.baynetworks.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA17641 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 15:19:10 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bwithrow@tuva.engeast.baynetworks.com) Message-Id: <199812142019.PAA17641@tuva.engeast.baynetworks.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Getting FreeBSD to see the docking station Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 15:19:10 -0500 From: Robert Withrow Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have a Gateway Solo 9100 running FreeBSD 3.0-RELEASE. I can't seem to get a config that understands how to probe the two cardbus slots on the docking station. Here is the (relevant) dmesg output: ... chip3: rev 0x02 on pci0.7.3 pcic0: rev 0xc1 int a irq 255 on pci0.10.0 pcic1: rev 0xc1 int b irq 255 on pci0.10.1 chip4: rev 0x00 on pci0.17.0 Probing for devices on PCI bus 1: pcic2: rev 0xee int a irq 10 on pci1.10.0 ... apm0 flags 0x31 on isa apm: found APM BIOS version 1.2 PC-Card Cirrus Logic PD672X (5 mem & 2 I/O windows) pcic: controller irq 5 Initializing PC-card drivers: ed ep fe sio How can I change the config to get it to see these other ports? I looked through the code and didn't see anything obvious. Thanks! -- Robert Withrow -- (+1 978 916 8256) BWithrow@BayNetworks.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Dec 14 17:36:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA15978 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 17:36:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (goldfish.pht.co.jp [210.171.55.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA15956 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 17:36:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA00389; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 03:04:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199812141104.DAA00389@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Mike Del" cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How can I help. In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 10 Dec 1998 18:09:53 PST." <19981211020953.20744.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 03:04:46 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I really enjoy using Freebsd on a Laptop and/or PAO. I was > wondering what is needed in this part of the Freebsd project, I would > like to help out. I can code in C, etc, I havn't done much kernel > hacking to tell the truth. I would like to learn, any little things that > need to be coded that might help me get started? If you want to get your hands dirty, and solve a right-now-outstanding bug without getting bogged down in the ongoing architectural debate, there is a defect in the current pccardd program relating to the allocation of memory mappings from the card to "real" memory. The pccardd code assumes that all mappings will be multiples of 4k; this is invalid, and results in regions that are > 4k being slightly truncated (this is rare), and causes any card that has a region < 4k to result in a requst for a window of 0, which fails and causes the card to be rejected. The "simple" fix for this is to round any request < 4k up to 4k. To implement this, you will learn a little about the workings of the current pccard code, which will prepare you for more work there later as we try to design an architecture that handles this better. You'll also be appreciated for the work by lots of people with these cards that can't currently use them. > BTW: Thanks to all that helped me get my 3com ethernet card working, it > was the interrupt addy, I changed it to 9 and it WORKS! Thanks. Of course it does. 8) -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Dec 14 17:36:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA16008 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 17:36:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (goldfish.pht.co.jp [210.171.55.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA15963 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 17:36:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA00305; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 02:52:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199812141052.CAA00305@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: S ren Schmidt cc: mike@smith.net.au (Mike Smith), mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Dell latitude sound.... In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 12 Dec 1998 11:09:50 +0100." <199812121009.LAA38935@freebsd.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 02:52:56 -0800 From: Mike Smith Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id RAA15981 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > It seems Mike Smith wrote: > > > > > > > > > I've played around with the Crystal chip (cs4237b) in my latitude, > > > but damn if I can get it to accept configuring commands via either > > > PnP or the SLAM method, anybody else having some success at this ? > > > > Is it actually PnP configurable? My bet (if it's embedded) is that you > > can read the settings out of it, but won't be able to write them back. > > Well, it is not used in PnP mode on the latitude, but it wont respond > to the SLAM method (hardwired) either :(, the sad thing is that both > the OSS dirver & WIN98 knows how to do this, so it is possible, but > I simply cannot get it to work.... > I guess its time for some serious reverse engineering :) Sounds like it *is* used in PnP mode, just not configurable that way. You ought to be able to get that one to work with the stock ISA PnP stuff if you use 'pnp bios' rather than 'pnp os' (the latter is not recommended until we have better resource accounting...) -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Dec 14 19:52:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA04081 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 19:52:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from roma.coe.ufrj.br (roma.coe.ufrj.br [146.164.53.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA04056; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 19:52:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jonny@jonny.eng.br) Received: (from jonny@localhost) by roma.coe.ufrj.br (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA09880; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 01:47:19 -0200 (EDT) (envelope-from jonny) From: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis Message-Id: <199812150347.BAA09880@roma.coe.ufrj.br> Subject: Re: HEADS UP : laptop power-down change In-Reply-To: <199812112131.NAA05568@pox.remarque.org> from Rob Robertson at "Dec 11, 98 01:31:23 pm" To: rob@remarque.org (Rob Robertson) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 01:47:19 -0200 (EDT) Cc: imp@village.org, phk@critter.freebsd.dk, archie@whistle.com, mike@smith.net.au, current@FreeBSD.ORG, mobile@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org #define quoting(Rob Robertson) // having halt and halt -p map to the same thing on i386 seems // reasonable to me. // // ok, so how do you halt the processor without turning off the machine? // // create another command or option if you want to power off the // machine. Yes... What about Solaris' poweroff ? Lets let everybody happy. It could be a hard link to halt, of course. Oh, maybe shutdown(8) should be modified to pass some flags to halt(8), or at least to support poweroff mode. Jonny -- Joao Carlos Mendes Luis M.Sc. Student jonny@jonny.eng.br Universidade Federal do Rio de Janeiro "This .sig is not meant to be politically correct." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Dec 15 06:12:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA02053 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 06:12:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from thyme.cisco.com (thyme.cisco.com [171.69.43.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA02047 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 06:12:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shibumi@thyme.cisco.com) Received: from miranda-bsd.cisco.com (dhcp-rtp-33-92.cisco.com [161.44.33.92]) by thyme.cisco.com (8.8.5-Cisco.1/8.6.5) with ESMTP id GAA00680; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 06:12:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost by miranda-bsd.cisco.com (8.8.8) id QAA16454; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 16:32:41 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812150032.QAA16454@miranda-bsd.cisco.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Nate Williams cc: "D. Rock" , mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Some notes on pccard and apm support In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 03 Dec 1998 12:16:35 MST." <199812031916.MAA14727@mt.sri.com> Reply-to: shibumi@cisco.com X-Disclaimer: Unless otherwise noted below, this is not a policy statement Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 16:32:40 -0800 From: "Kenton A. Hoover" Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org It seems that on Win98 compatible APM BIOSes, you need to have interrupts enabled. I have the 3.0 CD-ROM and am studying the code to figure out where to do the cutting. I'd make up a patch set for 2.2.6 (haven't upgraded the mother computer to 2.2.7 or above yet), but I installed PAO and I haven't taken the hour to sit down and figure out exactly where to apply the scissors. On Thu, 03 Dec 1998 12:16:35 MST, Sendmail channeled Nate Williams saying: > > I just installed 3.0-current on my new notebook. It works OK most of the ti me > > but I have some minor problems: > > - pccard interrupts doesn't seem to get initialized correctly for statistic s > > output (vmstat -i). After I insert a pccard, all of its interrupts get > > accounted for the clock interrupt, with the irq line of the clock interru pt > > changing to the one for the PCCard. > > This is a 'known bug', and requires a re-write of the way PCCARD probing > is done to fix it. (This rewrite would also fix a number of other bugs > as well, but there is no one interested in taking on the laptop issue to > completion.) > > > - Sometimes the PCCard isn't detected if inserted (or the system is booted > > with the card already inserted: I had a Windows 98 running just fine with > > the card, shut down the machine, turned power off and on and rebootet > > FreeBSD and the card wasn't detected the 1st time, only after a few > > plug/unplug operations, the card was properly detected). The pccard drive r > > detects the plugging/unplugging of the device, but a "pccardc dumpcis" on ly > > only dumps a "terminator" tuple for the slot. > > This *should* work. You're best bet is to look into the code in pccardd > and figure out why it's not working. > > > - After unplugging/replugging the card, I get an > > Slot x, unfielded interrupt (0) > > Expected. The software doesn't like the hardware disappearing > underneath it, and there's really no acceptable way to make this not > happen. You can hang a windows box in the same way. > > - Shutdown/Resume doesn't seem to work. The system wakes up immediately aft er > > a suspend to RAM (apm -Z) and after a suspend to disk (zzz), after wakeup > > the system hangs. I recompiled the kernel with APM_DEBUG, and after resum e > > the hooks get called, but afterwards it hangs. > > I think someone found that this was due to an extraneous 'cli' > instruction in the APM bios, but since there are lots of them in the > code I didn't know which one to remove. Attempts to contact the author > of the email were ignored. :( > > > > > This is stock 3.0-current, latest cvsup from yesterday. > > Needless to say, it works on Windows 98 > > I can lockup my box pretty easily on Windows hot swapping 'active' > cards as well. It's just harder because the OS is slower. :) > > > Nate > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message > | Kenton A. Hoover Network Team Manager | shibumi@cisco.com | | Engineering Computer Services | | | Cisco Systems, Inc. | +1.408.526.5249 | |===================== http://www.shockwave.com/~shibumi ====================| | "Foucault has benefited from that curious Anglo-American view that if a | | Frenchman talks nonsense it must reset on a profundity which is too deep | | for a speaker of English to comprehend." -- Larry Laudan | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Dec 15 06:13:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA02156 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 06:13:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from thyme.cisco.com (thyme.cisco.com [171.69.43.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA02151 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 06:13:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shibumi@thyme.cisco.com) Received: from miranda-bsd.cisco.com (dhcp-rtp-33-92.cisco.com [161.44.33.92]) by thyme.cisco.com (8.8.5-Cisco.1/8.6.5) with ESMTP id GAA00706; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 06:13:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost by miranda-bsd.cisco.com (8.8.8) id QAA16495; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 16:33:42 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812150033.QAA16495@miranda-bsd.cisco.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: alexandr@mail.eecis.udel.edu cc: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Xircom Driver In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 23 Nov 1998 16:46:18 EST." <199811231646.aa20068@mail.eecis.udel.edu> Reply-to: shibumi@cisco.com X-Disclaimer: Unless otherwise noted below, this is not a policy statement Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 16:33:42 -0800 From: "Kenton A. Hoover" Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org It doesn't show up with a valid CIS table. I suspect this has something to do with it being a CardBus card. Other views? On Mon, 23 Nov 1998 16:46:18 EST, Sendmail channeled Jerry Alexandratos saying: > Quick question... > > Will the new Xircom combo driver work with the Xircom Realport cards? > > --Jerry | Kenton A. Hoover Network Team Manager | shibumi@cisco.com | | Engineering Computer Services | | | Cisco Systems, Inc. | +1.408.526.5249 | |===================== http://www.shockwave.com/~shibumi ====================| | Why isn't there mouse-flavored cat food? | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Dec 15 09:54:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA27521 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 09:54:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk [130.159.196.126]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA27415; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 09:53:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from roger@cs.strath.ac.uk) Received: from cs.strath.ac.uk (posh.dmem.strath.ac.uk [130.159.202.3]) by fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA17503 Tue, 15 Dec 1998 17:53:13 GMT Message-ID: <3676A1F2.5D5654AD@cs.strath.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 17:52:50 +0000 From: Roger Hardiman Organization: Strathclyde Uni X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: nate@mt.sri.com, mobile@FreeBSD.ORG, smp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: SMP and PCMCIA give Kernel Panic - fix found Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I now have a patch which will get PCMCIA cards working on SMP kernels. The problem was the differences in the IRQ allocation with APIC IO. Can you all try it out for me and see how you get on. Then, I'll need someone to commit the patch for me. Any offers? Rather than do a patch, I've stuck a new version of pcic.c on ftp://telepresence.dmem.strath.ac.uk/pub/pcic/pcic.c This is a modified version of pcic.c from 3.0-RELEASE which can be found at ftp://telepresence.dmem.strath.ac.uk/pub/pcic/pcic.c.original (so you can generate your own diffs) Bye Roger To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Dec 15 13:39:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA29468 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 13:39:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from roma.coe.ufrj.br (roma.coe.ufrj.br [146.164.53.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA29435; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 13:39:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jonny@jonny.eng.br) Received: (from jonny@localhost) by roma.coe.ufrj.br (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA24153; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 19:39:16 -0200 (EDT) (envelope-from jonny) From: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis Message-Id: <199812152139.TAA24153@roma.coe.ufrj.br> Subject: Toshiba 305CDS and pcm sound To: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 19:39:16 -0200 (EDT) Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I'm trying to extract some sound from my Toshiba 305CDS, but it's completely jerky. I've tried both amp and timidity. Here's the related dmesg output from a verbose boot: ======================= mss_probe: no address supplied, try default 0x530 mss_detect - chip revision 0x0a ... try to identify the yamaha mss_detect() - Detected CS4231 pcm0 at 0x530 irq 10 drq 1 flags 0xc100 on isa mss_attach 0 at 0x530 irq 10 dma 1:1 flags 0xc100 setting up yamaha registers set yamaha master volume to max ======================= If case this matters, Windows recognizes the sound card as a Yamaha OPL3SA. Is it ok for it to identify as a CS4231 ? Any hint on what to do to solve the problem, or even to gather more information about it ? TIA, Jonny -- Joao Carlos Mendes Luis M.Sc. Student jonny@jonny.eng.br Universidade Federal do Rio de Janeiro "This .sig is not meant to be politically correct." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Dec 15 18:37:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA08287 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 18:37:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (goldfish.pht.co.jp [210.171.55.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA08270; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 18:37:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA00351; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 18:34:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199812160234.SAA00351@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis cc: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Toshiba 305CDS and pcm sound In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 15 Dec 1998 19:39:16 -0200." <199812152139.TAA24153@roma.coe.ufrj.br> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 18:34:07 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I'm trying to extract some sound from my Toshiba 305CDS, but it's > completely jerky. I've tried both amp and timidity. Here's the > related dmesg output from a verbose boot: There appear to be some timing-related problems going down at the moment; I've seen other people complaining about timing problems as well. > mss_probe: no address supplied, try default 0x530 > mss_detect - chip revision 0x0a > ... try to identify the yamaha > mss_detect() - Detected CS4231 > pcm0 at 0x530 irq 10 drq 1 flags 0xc100 on isa > mss_attach 0 at 0x530 irq 10 dma 1:1 flags 0xc100 > setting up yamaha registers > set yamaha master volume to max This looks prettymuch identical to what I get on my (very similar) 220CDS: mss_probe: no address supplied, try default 0x530 mss_detect - chip revision 0x0a ... try to identify the yamaha mss_detect() - Detected CS4231 pcm0 at 0x530 irq 5 drq 1 flags 0xc100 on isa mss_attach 0 at 0x530 irq 5 dma 1:1 flags 0xc100 setting up yamaha registers set yamaha master volume to max > If case this matters, Windows recognizes the sound card as a Yamaha > OPL3SA. Is it ok for it to identify as a CS4231 ? Any hint on what > to do to solve the problem, or even to gather more information about > it ? Check the IRQ, and perhaps try changing it if that's possible, I use: device pcm0 at isa? port ? tty irq 5 drq 1 flags 0 and on a December 1st kernel it plays fine (using mpg123). -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Dec 15 19:43:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA14295 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 19:43:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from roma.coe.ufrj.br (roma.coe.ufrj.br [146.164.53.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA14276; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 19:43:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jonny@jonny.eng.br) Received: (from jonny@localhost) by roma.coe.ufrj.br (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA28978; Wed, 16 Dec 1998 01:43:16 -0200 (EDT) (envelope-from jonny) From: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis Message-Id: <199812160343.BAA28978@roma.coe.ufrj.br> Subject: Re: Toshiba 305CDS and pcm sound In-Reply-To: <199812160234.SAA00351@dingo.cdrom.com> from Mike Smith at "Dec 15, 98 06:34:07 pm" To: mike@smith.net.au (Mike Smith) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 01:43:16 -0200 (EDT) Cc: jonny@jonny.eng.br, mobile@FreeBSD.ORG, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org #define quoting(Mike Smith) // > I'm trying to extract some sound from my Toshiba 305CDS, but it's // > completely jerky. I've tried both amp and timidity. Here's the // > related dmesg output from a verbose boot: // // There appear to be some timing-related problems going down at the // moment; I've seen other people complaining about timing problems as // well. // // > mss_probe: no address supplied, try default 0x530 // > mss_detect - chip revision 0x0a // > ... try to identify the yamaha // > mss_detect() - Detected CS4231 // > pcm0 at 0x530 irq 10 drq 1 flags 0xc100 on isa // > mss_attach 0 at 0x530 irq 10 dma 1:1 flags 0xc100 // > setting up yamaha registers // > set yamaha master volume to max ... // > If case this matters, Windows recognizes the sound card as a Yamaha // > OPL3SA. Is it ok for it to identify as a CS4231 ? Any hint on what // > to do to solve the problem, or even to gather more information about // > it ? // // Check the IRQ, and perhaps try changing it if that's possible, I use: // // device pcm0 at isa? port ? tty irq 5 drq 1 flags 0 The irq 10 at my config was taken from the win95 control panel. I have double checked it today (now running WinNT), and found it's on irq 5. Why it has changed I don't know. I always thought irq 5 was a more common value than irq 10. Also strange was the fact that neither Win95 nor WinNT driver allowed to change its config, but still decided to change it by itself. Copying the winnt current config (irq 5, dma 1:0) solved the problem. Jonny PS: And I keep forgetting notebooks have more differences from its desktop brothers than only size. :) -- Joao Carlos Mendes Luis M.Sc. Student jonny@jonny.eng.br Universidade Federal do Rio de Janeiro "This .sig is not meant to be politically correct." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Dec 15 19:59:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA15437 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 19:59:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA15431; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 19:59:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from rachael.gsoft.com.au (rachael.gsoft.com.au [203.38.152.104]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA07289; Wed, 16 Dec 1998 14:28:52 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199812160343.BAA28978@roma.coe.ufrj.br> Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 14:28:51 +1030 (CST) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis Subject: Re: Toshiba 305CDS and pcm sound Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, mobile@FreeBSD.ORG, (Mike Smith) Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 16-Dec-98 Joao Carlos Mendes Luis wrote: > #define quoting(Mike Smith) > // Check the IRQ, and perhaps try changing it if that's possible, I use: > // device pcm0 at isa? port ? tty irq 5 drq 1 flags 0 > The irq 10 at my config was taken from the win95 control panel. I > have double checked it today (now running WinNT), and found it's on > irq 5. Why it has changed I don't know. I always thought irq 5 was a > more common value than irq 10. Also strange was the fact that neither > Win95 nor WinNT driver allowed to change its config, but still decided > to change it by itself. Its proably a Plug 'n' Pray device so the OS can change the IRQ, and NT and 95 just picked different numbers... --- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Dec 15 20:01:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA15931 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 20:01:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (goldfish.pht.co.jp [210.171.55.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA15915; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 20:01:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA00809; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 19:59:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199812160359.TAA00809@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis cc: mike@smith.net.au (Mike Smith), mobile@FreeBSD.ORG, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Toshiba 305CDS and pcm sound In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 16 Dec 1998 01:43:16 -0200." <199812160343.BAA28978@roma.coe.ufrj.br> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 19:59:37 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > // Check the IRQ, and perhaps try changing it if that's possible, I use: > // > // device pcm0 at isa? port ? tty irq 5 drq 1 flags 0 > > The irq 10 at my config was taken from the win95 control panel. I > have double checked it today (now running WinNT), and found it's on > irq 5. Why it has changed I don't know. I always thought irq 5 was a > more common value than irq 10. Also strange was the fact that neither > Win95 nor WinNT driver allowed to change its config, but still decided > to change it by itself. I suspect that the BIOS sets it to 5, and NT trusts the BIOS to do PnP, while W95 thinks that it's smarter and so moves it. Once the new-bus stuff hits the ISA bus properly, these problems should go away (or at least be substantially reduced). > PS: And I keep forgetting notebooks have more differences from its > desktop brothers than only size. :) In many ways they're completely different animals... -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Dec 15 20:07:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA16767 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 20:07:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from roma.coe.ufrj.br (roma.coe.ufrj.br [146.164.53.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA16745; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 20:07:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jonny@jonny.eng.br) Received: (from jonny@localhost) by roma.coe.ufrj.br (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA29459; Wed, 16 Dec 1998 02:07:04 -0200 (EDT) (envelope-from jonny) From: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis Message-Id: <199812160407.CAA29459@roma.coe.ufrj.br> Subject: Re: Toshiba 305CDS and pcm sound In-Reply-To: <199812160359.TAA00809@dingo.cdrom.com> from Mike Smith at "Dec 15, 98 07:59:37 pm" To: mike@smith.net.au (Mike Smith) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 02:07:04 -0200 (EDT) Cc: jonny@jonny.eng.br, mike@smith.net.au, mobile@FreeBSD.ORG, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org #define quoting(Mike Smith) // > // Check the IRQ, and perhaps try changing it if that's possible, I use: // > // // > // device pcm0 at isa? port ? tty irq 5 drq 1 flags 0 // > // > The irq 10 at my config was taken from the win95 control panel. I // > have double checked it today (now running WinNT), and found it's on // > irq 5. Why it has changed I don't know. I always thought irq 5 was a // > more common value than irq 10. Also strange was the fact that neither // > Win95 nor WinNT driver allowed to change its config, but still decided // > to change it by itself. // // I suspect that the BIOS sets it to 5, and NT trusts the BIOS to do PnP, // while W95 thinks that it's smarter and so moves it. Once the new-bus Should the pnp system in FreeBSD detect the card then ? Last time I tried it said there were no PnP cards, so I removed it. My first thought was obviously that this was a embedded ISA PnP sound card. Jonny -- Joao Carlos Mendes Luis M.Sc. Student jonny@jonny.eng.br Universidade Federal do Rio de Janeiro "This .sig is not meant to be politically correct." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Dec 15 20:22:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA18565 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 20:22:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (goldfish.pht.co.jp [210.171.55.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA18547; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 20:22:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA00936; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 20:20:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199812160420.UAA00936@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis cc: mike@smith.net.au (Mike Smith), mobile@FreeBSD.ORG, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Toshiba 305CDS and pcm sound In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 16 Dec 1998 02:07:04 -0200." <199812160407.CAA29459@roma.coe.ufrj.br> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 20:20:11 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > // I suspect that the BIOS sets it to 5, and NT trusts the BIOS to do PnP, > // while W95 thinks that it's smarter and so moves it. Once the new-bus > > Should the pnp system in FreeBSD detect the card then ? Last time I > tried it said there were no PnP cards, so I removed it. My first > thought was obviously that this was a embedded ISA PnP sound card. It doesn't do ISA PnP; you have to talk to the PnP BIOS to find it. Same deal on my 220CDS - if you have 3.0 on the system try 'pnpscan -v' at the loader prompt and you'll see it. I'm not sure if this allows you to configure it, or whether you have to poke it on other ways to move its IRQ around. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Dec 15 21:08:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA23166 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 21:08:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from roma.coe.ufrj.br (roma.coe.ufrj.br [146.164.53.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA23155 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 21:08:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jonny@jonny.eng.br) Received: (from jonny@localhost) by roma.coe.ufrj.br (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA00227; Wed, 16 Dec 1998 03:07:00 -0200 (EDT) (envelope-from jonny) From: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis Message-Id: <199812160507.DAA00227@roma.coe.ufrj.br> Subject: Re: Toshiba 305CDS and pcm sound In-Reply-To: <199812160420.UAA00936@dingo.cdrom.com> from Mike Smith at "Dec 15, 98 08:20:11 pm" To: mike@smith.net.au (Mike Smith) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 03:07:00 -0200 (EDT) Cc: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org #define quoting(Mike Smith) // > // I suspect that the BIOS sets it to 5, and NT trusts the BIOS to do PnP, // > // while W95 thinks that it's smarter and so moves it. Once the new-bus // > // > Should the pnp system in FreeBSD detect the card then ? Last time I // > tried it said there were no PnP cards, so I removed it. My first // > thought was obviously that this was a embedded ISA PnP sound card. // // It doesn't do ISA PnP; you have to talk to the PnP BIOS to find it. // Same deal on my 220CDS - if you have 3.0 on the system try 'pnpscan -v' // at the loader prompt and you'll see it. I have -snap from last week, and have just installed the new loader system and elf kernel. Cool. Indeed, there's a YMH0021 device under PCI BIOS, that must be the Yamaha sound chip. PnP BIOS and ISA bus show no devices at all. PCI BIOS have lots of PNP* devices, two TOS7301 devices, the YMH0021, a VGA Display and a communications controller (USB ?). This new loader system really seems promisingly. Thanks for your help, Jonny -- Joao Carlos Mendes Luis M.Sc. Student jonny@jonny.eng.br Universidade Federal do Rio de Janeiro "This .sig is not meant to be politically correct." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Dec 16 16:04:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA05306 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Wed, 16 Dec 1998 16:04:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hotmail.com (f322.hotmail.com [207.82.250.247]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA05297 for ; Wed, 16 Dec 1998 16:04:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from repenting@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 4672 invoked by uid 0); 17 Dec 1998 00:04:10 -0000 Message-ID: <19981217000410.4671.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.57.150.33 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 16 Dec 1998 16:04:08 PST X-Originating-IP: [209.57.150.33] From: "Mike Del" To: nate@mt.sri.com, shibumi@cisco.com Cc: rock@cs.uni-sb.de, mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Some notes on pccard and apm support Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 16:04:08 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I was wondering if I should upgrade my bios if new versions come out, or if I should remain where I am? >From owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Tue Dec 15 06:36:16 1998 >Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.18]) > by mail2.sol.net (8.8.8/8.8.8/SNNS-1.02) with ESMTP id IAA22890; > Tue, 15 Dec 1998 08:36:01 -0600 (CST) >Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) > by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA02099; > Tue, 15 Dec 1998 06:12:33 -0800 (PST) > (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) >Received: by hub.freebsd.org (bulk_mailer v1.6); Tue, 15 Dec 1998 06:12:18 -0800 >Received: (from majordom@localhost) > by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA02053 > for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 06:12:17 -0800 (PST) > (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) >Received: from thyme.cisco.com (thyme.cisco.com [171.69.43.12]) > by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA02047 > for ; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 06:12:16 -0800 (PST) > (envelope-from shibumi@thyme.cisco.com) >Received: from miranda-bsd.cisco.com (dhcp-rtp-33-92.cisco.com [161.44.33.92]) by thyme.cisco.com (8.8.5-Cisco.1/8.6.5) with ESMTP id GAA00680; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 06:12:10 -0800 (PST) >Received: from localhost by miranda-bsd.cisco.com (8.8.8) id QAA16454; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 16:32:41 -0800 (PST) >Message-Id: <199812150032.QAA16454@miranda-bsd.cisco.com> >X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 >To: Nate Williams >cc: "D. Rock" , mobile@FreeBSD.ORG >Subject: Re: Some notes on pccard and apm support >In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 03 Dec 1998 12:16:35 MST." > <199812031916.MAA14727@mt.sri.com> >Reply-to: shibumi@cisco.com >X-Disclaimer: Unless otherwise noted below, this is not a policy statement >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 16:32:40 -0800 >From: "Kenton A. Hoover" >Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG >X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > >It seems that on Win98 compatible APM BIOSes, you need to have interrupts >enabled. I have the 3.0 CD-ROM and am studying the code to figure out where >to do the cutting. I'd make up a patch set for 2.2.6 (haven't upgraded the >mother computer to 2.2.7 or above yet), but I installed PAO and I haven't >taken the hour to sit down and figure out exactly where to apply the scissors. > >On Thu, 03 Dec 1998 12:16:35 MST, Sendmail channeled Nate Williams saying: >> > I just installed 3.0-current on my new notebook. It works OK most of the ti >me >> > but I have some minor problems: >> > - pccard interrupts doesn't seem to get initialized correctly for statistic >s >> > output (vmstat -i). After I insert a pccard, all of its interrupts get >> > accounted for the clock interrupt, with the irq line of the clock interru >pt >> > changing to the one for the PCCard. >> >> This is a 'known bug', and requires a re-write of the way PCCARD probing >> is done to fix it. (This rewrite would also fix a number of other bugs >> as well, but there is no one interested in taking on the laptop issue to >> completion.) >> >> > - Sometimes the PCCard isn't detected if inserted (or the system is booted >> > with the card already inserted: I had a Windows 98 running just fine with >> > the card, shut down the machine, turned power off and on and rebootet >> > FreeBSD and the card wasn't detected the 1st time, only after a few >> > plug/unplug operations, the card was properly detected). The pccard drive >r >> > detects the plugging/unplugging of the device, but a "pccardc dumpcis" on >ly >> > only dumps a "terminator" tuple for the slot. >> >> This *should* work. You're best bet is to look into the code in pccardd >> and figure out why it's not working. >> >> > - After unplugging/replugging the card, I get an >> > Slot x, unfielded interrupt (0) >> >> Expected. The software doesn't like the hardware disappearing >> underneath it, and there's really no acceptable way to make this not >> happen. You can hang a windows box in the same way. >> > - Shutdown/Resume doesn't seem to work. The system wakes up immediately aft >er >> > a suspend to RAM (apm -Z) and after a suspend to disk (zzz), after wakeup >> > the system hangs. I recompiled the kernel with APM_DEBUG, and after resum >e >> > the hooks get called, but afterwards it hangs. >> >> I think someone found that this was due to an extraneous 'cli' >> instruction in the APM bios, but since there are lots of them in the >> code I didn't know which one to remove. Attempts to contact the author >> of the email were ignored. :( >> >> > >> > This is stock 3.0-current, latest cvsup from yesterday. >> > Needless to say, it works on Windows 98 >> >> I can lockup my box pretty easily on Windows hot swapping 'active' >> cards as well. It's just harder because the OS is slower. :) >> >> >> Nate >> >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message >> > > > >| Kenton A. Hoover Network Team Manager | shibumi@cisco.com | >| Engineering Computer Services | | >| Cisco Systems, Inc. | +1.408.526.5249 | >|===================== http://www.shockwave.com/~shibumi ====================| >| "Foucault has benefited from that curious Anglo-American view that if a | >| Frenchman talks nonsense it must reset on a profundity which is too deep | >| for a speaker of English to comprehend." -- Larry Laudan | > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Dec 17 05:26:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA25951 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 05:26:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from arthur.axion.bt.co.uk (arthur.axion.bt.co.uk [132.146.5.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA25943 for ; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 05:26:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from guilhem.ensuque@bt-sys.bt.co.uk) Received: from rambo (actually rambo.futures.bt.co.uk) by arthur (local) with SMTP; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 13:23:36 +0000 Received: from mussel.futures.bt.co.uk (actually mussel) by rambo with SMTP (PP); Thu, 17 Dec 1998 13:27:16 +0000 Received: by mussel.futures.bt.co.uk with Microsoft Exchange (IMC 4.0.837.3) id <01BE29BF.BC45B590@mussel.futures.bt.co.uk>; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 13:18:28 -0000 Message-ID: From: Guilhem Ensuque To: "'freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org'" Subject: [FBSD-mobile] Wanted: old style wavelan cards Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 13:28:35 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.837.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all I am desperatly looking for old style Lucent WaveLAN cards (the ones for which there are drivers in FreeBSD) since our supplier (ASK Comms - avoid them) has fallen short of stock and sent us the new IEEE802.11-compliant ones instead. I am looking for ISA cards to put in desktops that would act as ad-hoc access points (not wavepoints) and PC Cards for laptops. If you have any spare that you want to get rid of please contact me. Any hints on brokers/second hand gear suppliers appreciated Thanks in advance Guilhem Ensuque Mobility Research Unit guilhem.ensuque@bt-sys.bt.co.uk B55-131B BT Laboratories Martlesham Heath tel : +44 1473 645 232 IPSWICH IP5 3RE (UK) fax : +44 1473 646 885 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Dec 17 08:14:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA14387 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 08:14:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jli.com (jli.com [199.2.111.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA14380 for ; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 08:14:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from trost@cloud.rain.com) Received: (qmail 18433 invoked by uid 4); 17 Dec 1998 16:14:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 26871 invoked from network); 17 Dec 1998 16:13:51 -0000 Received: from localhost.cloud.rain.com (HELO cloud.rain.com) (127.0.0.1) by localhost.cloud.rain.com with SMTP; 17 Dec 1998 16:13:50 -0000 To: Guilhem Ensuque cc: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Wanted: old style wavelan cards References: In-reply-to: Your message of Thu, 17 Dec 1998 13:28:35 GMT. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <26867.913911230.1@cloud.rain.com> Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 08:13:50 -0800 Message-ID: <26868.913911230@cloud.rain.com> From: Bill Trost Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Guilhem Ensuque writes: I am desperatly looking for old style Lucent WaveLAN cards... Are you accepting 915 MHz cards, or just 2.2 GHz? Your email doesn't say (not that I have any of either, mind you), and I thought only 2.2 GHz were legal in your part of the world. In any event -- I understand the DEC RoamAbouts were/are functionally equivalent to the WaveLAN cards, so you might check with them. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Dec 17 09:22:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA21254 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 09:21:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from arthur.axion.bt.co.uk (arthur.axion.bt.co.uk [132.146.5.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA21247 for ; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 09:21:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from guilhem.ensuque@bt-sys.bt.co.uk) Received: from rambo (actually rambo.futures.bt.co.uk) by arthur (local) with SMTP; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 16:40:54 +0000 Received: from mussel.futures.bt.co.uk (actually mussel) by rambo with SMTP (PP); Thu, 17 Dec 1998 16:43:45 +0000 Received: by mussel.futures.bt.co.uk with Microsoft Exchange (IMC 4.0.837.3) id <01BE29DB.2A7686A0@mussel.futures.bt.co.uk>; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 16:34:49 -0000 Message-ID: From: Guilhem Ensuque To: "'Bill Trost'" , Guilhem Ensuque Cc: "'mobile@freebsd.org'" Subject: RE: Wanted: old style wavelan cards --> 2.4 Ghz (ETS) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 16:44:58 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.837.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all The cards I am after are 2.4 GHz (ETS) since I am in the UK NOT the 915MHz for the US NOT the 2.4GHz adapted to French and Japanese ISM band regulation Thanks for the tip on DEC RoamAbouts, I'll check that as well Guilhem Mobility Research Unit guilhem.ensuque@bt-sys.bt.co.uk B55-131B BT Laboratories Martlesham Heath tel : +44 1473 645 232 IPSWICH IP5 3RE (UK) fax : +44 1473 646 885 >-----Original Message----- >From: Bill Trost [SMTP:trost@cloud.rain.com] >Sent: 17 December 1998 16:14 >To: Guilhem Ensuque >Cc: mobile@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: Wanted: old style wavelan cards > >Guilhem Ensuque writes: > I am desperatly looking for old style Lucent WaveLAN cards... > >Are you accepting 915 MHz cards, or just 2.2 GHz? Your email doesn't >say (not that I have any of either, mind you), and I thought only 2.2 >GHz were legal in your part of the world. > >In any event -- I understand the DEC RoamAbouts were/are functionally >equivalent to the WaveLAN cards, so you might check with them. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Dec 17 10:35:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA28602 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 10:35:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from schooner.svjava.com (schooner.svjava.com [204.75.228.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA28597 for ; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 10:35:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kozowski@svjava.com) Received: (from kozowski@localhost) by schooner.svjava.com (8.9.1a/svjava.com) id KAA03130; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 10:35:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <19981217103529.A3055@haydenisland.verio.net> Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 10:35:29 -0800 From: Eric Kozowski To: Guilhem Ensuque , "'freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: [FBSD-mobile] Wanted: old style wavelan cards References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93i In-Reply-To: ; from Guilhem Ensuque on Thu, Dec 17, 1998 at 01:28:35PM -0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Dec 17, 1998 at 01:28:35PM -0000, Guilhem Ensuque wrote: > Hi all > > I am desperatly looking for old style Lucent WaveLAN cards (the ones for > which there are drivers in FreeBSD) since our supplier (ASK Comms - > avoid them) has fallen short of stock and sent us the new > IEEE802.11-compliant ones instead. just buy dec roamabout cards. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Dec 17 13:28:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA18733 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 13:28:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from alink.net (br.alink.net [207.135.127.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA18712 for ; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 13:28:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mab@zildjian.hq.alink.net) Received: from zildjian.hq.alink.net (lc.alink.net [207.135.127.87]) by alink.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA00833; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 13:28:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mab@localhost) by zildjian.hq.alink.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA28521; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 13:28:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mab) From: Matt Braithwaite Reply-To: mab@alink.net X-Attribution: mab To: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: APM can suspend right after resume without updating clock Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: 17 Dec 1998 13:28:34 -0800 Message-ID: <86empyjw59.fsf@zildjian.hq.alink.net> Lines: 27 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/XEmacs 20.4 - "Emerald" Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org when i powered up today, my machine (nec versa lx) suspended instantly. i connected AC power, and powered up again. dmesg showed only this: \^G\^G * * * BATTERY IS LOW * * * \^G\^G<5>resumed from suspended mode (slept 00:00:41) but the first time i powered it up, it had been asleep for over eight hours. unsurprisingly, the clock was off by that amount of time. looking at apm.c (2.2.8-STABLE), it's easy to see how this could happen: the low power event inevitably suspends the machine right away: OPMEV_DEBUGMESSAGE(PMEV_BATTERYLOW); apm_battery_low(); apm_suspend(); break; my guess is that for some reason, the APM code got hold of the low battery event before the resume event. unfortunately, i don't know how best to fix this. is it easy to schedule the suspend a little bit into the future, to catch other events? would it be easy to update the clock before suspending? could suspending on low battery be left up to user code? -- Matthew Braithwaite To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Dec 17 15:40:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA05200 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 15:40:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from enterprise.cs.unm.edu (enterprise.cs.unm.edu [198.59.151.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA05194 for ; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 15:40:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from colinj@cs.unm.edu) Received: from viper.cs.unm.edu [198.59.151.25] by enterprise.cs.unm.edu with smtp (Exim 1.80 #2) id 0zqn2A-0004kS-00; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 16:40:42 -0700 Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 16:41:53 -0700 (MST) From: Colin Eric Johnson To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: 2.2.8 or 3.0 for a laptop? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm running 2.2.8 on my Dell Latitude right now and I'm pretty happy with it. I'm also between semesters so this would be a good time to do major upgrades (like to 3.0). I'm wondering if there are folks running on the 3.x branch in the mobile camp just yet. If there are what are folks seeing performance-wise? Is this a good time to move? Colin E. Johnson | colinj@unm.edu | http://www.unm.edu/~colinj/ Why must I feel like that? Why must I chase the cat? - G. Clinton To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Dec 17 16:16:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA11677 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 16:16:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hotmail.com (f58.hotmail.com [207.82.251.192]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA11669 for ; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 16:16:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from repenting@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 27212 invoked by uid 0); 18 Dec 1998 00:16:39 -0000 Message-ID: <19981218001639.27211.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.57.150.48 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 16:16:38 PST X-Originating-IP: [209.57.150.48] From: "Mike Del" To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: How would one get the IR device on a notebook to work. Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 16:16:38 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello All, I have another question to ask. How can I use my IR device, that is built into the back of my Toshiba Satellite 315CDS, to work? All information wanted :) Thanks ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Dec 17 18:19:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA25804 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 18:19:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA25797 for ; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 18:19:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA00613; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 18:16:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199812180216.SAA00613@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: mab@alink.net cc: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: APM can suspend right after resume without updating clock In-reply-to: Your message of "17 Dec 1998 13:28:34 PST." <86empyjw59.fsf@zildjian.hq.alink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 18:16:58 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > when i powered up today, my machine (nec versa lx) suspended > instantly. i connected AC power, and powered up again. dmesg showed > only this: > > \^G\^G * * * BATTERY IS LOW * * * \^G\^G<5>resumed from suspended mode > (slept 00:00:41) > > but the first time i powered it up, it had been asleep for over eight > hours. unsurprisingly, the clock was off by that amount of time. > looking at apm.c (2.2.8-STABLE), it's easy to see how this could > happen: the low power event inevitably suspends the machine right > away: > > OPMEV_DEBUGMESSAGE(PMEV_BATTERYLOW); > apm_battery_low(); > apm_suspend(); > break; > > my guess is that for some reason, the APM code got hold of the low > battery event before the resume event. unfortunately, i don't know > how best to fix this. is it easy to schedule the suspend a little bit > into the future, to catch other events? Not really easily, no. I'm not sure that it'd actually be terribly useful to do that either, apart from the improved sleep time message. > would it be easy to update > the clock before suspending? Ah, I think I see what you mean; the loss of the resume message means that the clock hasn't been updated. Probably a better approach would simply be to reload the system clock from the RTC. > could suspending on low battery be left > up to user code? What benefits would that bring? The events still need to be fetched in the kernel, and most event handling is pretty trivial... -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Dec 18 08:44:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA28580 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 08:44:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from tesla.i-pi.com (tesla.i-pi.com [198.49.217.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA28573 for ; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 08:44:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ingham@i-pi.com) Received: (from ingham@localhost) by tesla.i-pi.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) id JAA09729; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 09:44:30 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <19981218094430.06435@i-pi.com> Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 09:44:30 -0700 From: Kenneth Ingham To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: IBM Thinkpad 1720i Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84e Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've been trying to get FreeBSD up on this laptop. It boots fine. I can get started in the load from the CD (both 2.2.7 and 3.0 CDs). However, after some period of time, the install process seems to just hang. The console where the listing of what has been unpacked (2?) stops. The shell on console 4 still works. What can I try that will provide a clue of what is causing the problem? Kenneth To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Dec 18 10:46:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA12631 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 10:46:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from silver.gn.iaf.nl (silver.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA12604 for ; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 10:46:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wilko@yedi.iaf.nl) Received: from uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (osmium.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.12]) by silver.gn.iaf.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA18182; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 19:46:03 +0100 Received: by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl with UUCP id AA22338 (5.67b/IDA-1.5); Fri, 18 Dec 1998 19:19:00 +0100 Received: (from wilko@localhost) by yedi.iaf.nl (8.8.8/8.6.12) id SAA01733; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 18:31:41 +0100 (CET) From: Wilko Bulte Message-Id: <199812181731.SAA01733@yedi.iaf.nl> Subject: Re: Wanted: old style wavelan cards --> 2.4 Ghz (ETS) In-Reply-To: from Guilhem Ensuque at "Dec 17, 98 04:44:58 pm" To: guilhem.ensuque@bt-sys.bt.co.uk (Guilhem Ensuque) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 18:31:41 +0100 (CET) Cc: trost@cloud.rain.com, guilhem.ensuque@bt-sys.bt.co.uk, mobile@FreeBSD.ORG X-Organisation: Private FreeBSD site - Arnhem, The Netherlands X-Pgp-Info: PGP public key at 'finger wilko@freefall.freebsd.org' X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org As Guilhem Ensuque wrote... > Hi all > > The cards I am after are 2.4 GHz (ETS) since I am in the UK > > NOT the 915MHz for the US > NOT the 2.4GHz adapted to French and Japanese ISM band regulation > > Thanks for the tip on DEC RoamAbouts, I'll check that as well You might want to take a look at www.request.nl they had Roamabout stuff some time ago. Wilko _ ______________________________________________________________________ | / o / / _ Bulte email: wilko@yedi.iaf.nl |/|/ / / /( (_) Arnhem, The Netherlands WWW : http://www.tcja.nl ______________________________________________ Powered by FreeBSD __________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Dec 18 13:47:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA05381 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 13:47:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from alink.net (br.alink.net [207.135.127.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA05375 for ; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 13:47:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mab@zildjian.hq.alink.net) Received: from zildjian.hq.alink.net (lc.alink.net [207.135.127.87]) by alink.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA09217; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 13:47:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mab@localhost) by zildjian.hq.alink.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA16239; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 13:19:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mab) From: Matt Braithwaite Reply-To: mab@alink.net X-Attribution: mab To: Mike Smith Cc: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: APM can suspend right after resume without updating clock References: <199812180216.SAA00613@dingo.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: 18 Dec 1998 13:19:48 -0800 In-Reply-To: Mike Smith's message of "Thu, 17 Dec 1998 18:16:58 -0800" Message-ID: <86btl1b11n.fsf@zildjian.hq.alink.net> Lines: 41 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/XEmacs 20.4 - "Emerald" Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >>>>> "MS" == Mike Smith writes: >> would it be easy to update the clock before suspending? MS> Ah, I think I see what you mean; the loss of the resume MS> message means that the clock hasn't been updated. exactly: this isn't just a theory; i verified that my clock was off by around the amount of the first sleep (many hours); in other words when it resumed the second time, the clock was set at what it was when i suspended the first time. xntpd has a hard time recovering from this. :-) MS> Probably a better approach would simply be to reload the MS> system clock from the RTC. as nearly as i can tell, it does: pl = splsoftclock(); inittodr(0); /* adjust time to RTC */ microtime(&resume_time); tmp_time = time; /* because 'time' is volatile */ timevaladd(&tmp_time, &diff_time); time = tmp_time; splx(pl); the more i read, the more puzzled i get. >> could suspending on low battery be left up to user code? MS> What benefits would that bring? The events still need to be MS> fetched in the kernel, and most event handling is pretty MS> trivial... well, maybe not much benefit for this particular situation. mostly, i just hate polling. :-) i think it would be groovy if you could select(2) on /dev/apm and get all the APM events going through your system. -- Matthew Braithwaite To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Dec 18 14:15:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA08720 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 14:15:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles251.castles.com [208.214.165.251]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA08709 for ; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 14:15:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA03014; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 14:12:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199812182212.OAA03014@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: mab@alink.net cc: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: APM can suspend right after resume without updating clock In-reply-to: Your message of "18 Dec 1998 13:19:48 PST." <86btl1b11n.fsf@zildjian.hq.alink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 14:12:41 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > >>>>> "MS" == Mike Smith writes: > > >> would it be easy to update the clock before suspending? > > MS> Ah, I think I see what you mean; the loss of the resume > MS> message means that the clock hasn't been updated. > > exactly: this isn't just a theory; i verified that my clock was off by > around the amount of the first sleep (many hours); in other words when > it resumed the second time, the clock was set at what it was when i > suspended the first time. xntpd has a hard time recovering from > this. :-) No kidding. > MS> Probably a better approach would simply be to reload the > MS> system clock from the RTC. > > as nearly as i can tell, it does: > > pl = splsoftclock(); > inittodr(0); /* adjust time to RTC */ > microtime(&resume_time); > tmp_time = time; /* because 'time' is volatile */ > timevaladd(&tmp_time, &diff_time); > time = tmp_time; > splx(pl); > > the more i read, the more puzzled i get. The code in -current is more complex, but either way it looks as though all this is doing is processing the resume event from after the low-battery powerdown, ie. when the system was resumed the APM code returned the low-battery event *before* the resume event. This is really a bug in your BIOS, but we can probably work around it by always doing the resume processing when the suspend call returns. > >> could suspending on low battery be left up to user code? > > MS> What benefits would that bring? The events still need to be > MS> fetched in the kernel, and most event handling is pretty > MS> trivial... > > well, maybe not much benefit for this particular situation. mostly, i > just hate polling. :-) i think it would be groovy if you could > select(2) on /dev/apm and get all the APM events going through your > system. Even if you selected on it the kernel would still have to poll the APM BIOS - that's just how it works. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Dec 18 14:30:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA10941 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 14:29:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (sri-gw.MT.net [206.127.105.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA10902 for ; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 14:29:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nate@mt.sri.com) Received: from mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA28026; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 15:29:19 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: by mt.sri.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id PAA09703; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 15:29:19 -0700 Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 15:29:19 -0700 Message-Id: <199812182229.PAA09703@mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: mab@alink.net Cc: Mike Smith , mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: APM can suspend right after resume without updating clock In-Reply-To: <86btl1b11n.fsf@zildjian.hq.alink.net> References: <199812180216.SAA00613@dingo.cdrom.com> <86btl1b11n.fsf@zildjian.hq.alink.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 19.16 "Lille" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > >> would it be easy to update the clock before suspending? > > MS> Ah, I think I see what you mean; the loss of the resume > MS> message means that the clock hasn't been updated. > > exactly: this isn't just a theory; i verified that my clock was off by > around the amount of the first sleep (many hours); in other words when > it resumed the second time, the clock was set at what it was when i > suspended the first time. xntpd has a hard time recovering from > this. :-) > > MS> Probably a better approach would simply be to reload the > MS> system clock from the RTC. > > as nearly as i can tell, it does: I'll bet the new 'sleep' event is pre-empting the previous 'resume' event and the RTC stuff is getting lost before we have time to adjust the RTC. Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Dec 18 14:34:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA11358 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 14:34:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (sri-gw.MT.net [206.127.105.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA11351 for ; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 14:34:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nate@mt.sri.com) Received: from mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA28073; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 15:33:49 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: by mt.sri.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id PAA09757; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 15:33:49 -0700 Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 15:33:49 -0700 Message-Id: <199812182233.PAA09757@mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Mike Smith Cc: mab@alink.net, mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: APM can suspend right after resume without updating clock In-Reply-To: <199812182212.OAA03014@dingo.cdrom.com> References: <86btl1b11n.fsf@zildjian.hq.alink.net> <199812182212.OAA03014@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 19.16 "Lille" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > The code in -current is more complex, but either way it looks as though > all this is doing is processing the resume event from after the > low-battery powerdown, ie. when the system was resumed the APM code > returned the low-battery event *before* the resume event. This is > really a bug in your BIOS, but we can probably work around it by always > doing the resume processing when the suspend call returns. I don't think is a safe assumption to make. Read the APM docs for more information. Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Dec 18 15:24:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA18506 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 15:24:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles251.castles.com [208.214.165.251]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA18499 for ; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 15:24:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA03369; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 15:21:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199812182321.PAA03369@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Nate Williams cc: Mike Smith , mab@alink.net, mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: APM can suspend right after resume without updating clock In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 18 Dec 1998 15:33:49 MST." <199812182233.PAA09757@mt.sri.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 15:21:48 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > The code in -current is more complex, but either way it looks as though > > all this is doing is processing the resume event from after the > > low-battery powerdown, ie. when the system was resumed the APM code > > returned the low-battery event *before* the resume event. This is > > really a bug in your BIOS, but we can probably work around it by always > > doing the resume processing when the suspend call returns. > > I don't think is a safe assumption to make. Read the APM docs for more > information. This is the "system may run on after suspend before actually suspending" case? Ok, an alternative then. apm_default_suspend sets a "resume_pending" flag, and won't set suspend_time if that flag is set. Likewise, resumes won't do anything if they're not marked pending. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Dec 18 16:07:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA25436 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 16:07:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from schooner.svjava.com (schooner.svjava.com [204.75.228.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA25385 for ; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 16:07:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kozowski@svjava.com) Received: (from kozowski@localhost) by schooner.svjava.com (8.9.1a/svjava.com) id QAA06957 for mobile@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 16:07:12 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <19981218160712.A6917@haydenisland.verio.net> Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 16:07:12 -0800 From: Eric Kozowski To: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: xbatt and apm -b hang my system Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93i Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org xbatt and amp -b hang my system hard. only way to recover is by a power cycle. zzz generates "Inappropriate ioctl for device" as do all other apm commands. apmconf -e generates "can't ioctl APMIO_ENABLE" me thinks something is wrong in the kernel support for apm, but i double checked that apm support was compile in. i even rebuilt the kernel to make sure. system: quantex h1331 p2 233 freebsd 2.2.7 + pao what's the best way to troubleshoot this problem? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Dec 18 16:35:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA28613 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 16:35:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jli.com (jli.com [199.2.111.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA28608 for ; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 16:35:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from trost@cloud.rain.com) Received: (qmail 8715 invoked by uid 4); 19 Dec 1998 00:34:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 6046 invoked from network); 19 Dec 1998 00:34:22 -0000 Received: from localhost.cloud.rain.com (HELO cloud.rain.com) (127.0.0.1) by localhost.cloud.rain.com with SMTP; 19 Dec 1998 00:34:22 -0000 To: Eric Kozowski cc: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: xbatt and apm -b hang my system References: <19981218160712.A6917@haydenisland.verio.net> In-reply-to: Your message of Fri, 18 Dec 1998 16:07:12 PST. <19981218160712.A6917@haydenisland.verio.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <6042.914027662.1@cloud.rain.com> Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 16:34:22 -0800 Message-ID: <6043.914027662@cloud.rain.com> From: Bill Trost Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Eric Kozowski writes: zzz generates "Inappropriate ioctl for device" as do all other apm commands. apmconf -e generates "can't ioctl APMIO_ENABLE" me thinks something is wrong in the kernel support for apm, but i double checked that apm support was compile in. i even rebuilt the kernel to make sure. system: quantex h1331 p2 233 freebsd 2.2.7 + pao what's the best way to troubleshoot this problem? Well, for starters, I'd fix apmconf to tell you something better than "I can't ioctl." Patches (for 3.0 or therebouts) are attached. Could someone commit this if appropriate? Offhand, my own scientific wild-ass guess is that you have a binary incompatibility between your apm software and your kernel. Did you PAOify apm and apmconf when you PAOified your kernel? --- /tmp/apmconf.c Fri Dec 18 16:30:06 1998 +++ apmconf.c Fri Dec 18 16:30:09 1998 @@ -92,28 +92,28 @@ enable_apm(int dh) { if (ioctl(dh, APMIO_ENABLE, NULL) == -1) - errx(1, "can't ioctl APMIO_ENABLE"); + err(1, "can't ioctl APMIO_ENABLE"); } static void disable_apm(int dh) { if (ioctl(dh, APMIO_DISABLE, NULL) == -1) - errx(1, "can't ioctl APMIO_DISABLE"); + err(1, "can't ioctl APMIO_DISABLE"); } static void haltcpu_apm(int dh) { if (ioctl(dh, APMIO_HALTCPU, NULL) == -1) - errx(1, "can't ioctl APMIO_HALTCPU"); + err(1, "can't ioctl APMIO_HALTCPU"); } static void nothaltcpu_apm(int dh) { if (ioctl(dh, APMIO_NOTHALTCPU, NULL) == -1) - errx(1, "can't ioctl APMIO_NOTHALTCPU"); + err(1, "can't ioctl APMIO_NOTHALTCPU"); } int @@ -124,7 +124,7 @@ main_argc = argc; main_argv = argv; if ((dh = open(APMDEV, O_RDWR)) == -1) - errx(1, "can't open '%s'", APMDEV); + err(1, "can't open '%s'", APMDEV); parse_option(); /* disable operation is executed first */ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Dec 18 16:37:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA28818 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 16:37:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from schooner.svjava.com (schooner.svjava.com [204.75.228.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA28807 for ; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 16:37:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kozowski@svjava.com) Received: (from kozowski@localhost) by schooner.svjava.com (8.9.1a/svjava.com) id QAA07100; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 16:37:08 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <19981218163708.C7016@haydenisland.verio.net> Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 16:37:08 -0800 From: Eric Kozowski To: Bill Trost Cc: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: xbatt and apm -b hang my system References: <19981218160712.A6917@haydenisland.verio.net> <6043.914027662@cloud.rain.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93i In-Reply-To: <6043.914027662@cloud.rain.com>; from Bill Trost on Fri, Dec 18, 1998 at 04:34:22PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Dec 18, 1998 at 04:34:22PM -0800, Bill Trost wrote: > Well, for starters, I'd fix apmconf to tell you something better than > "I can't ioctl." Patches (for 3.0 or therebouts) are attached. Could > someone commit this if appropriate? thanks, i'll give 'em a try. > Offhand, my own scientific wild-ass guess is that you have a binary > incompatibility between your apm software and your kernel. Did you > PAOify apm and apmconf when you PAOified your kernel? well, i did the pao "make patch". it looked like that munged w/ the apm stuff...... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sat Dec 19 15:52:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA04759 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Sat, 19 Dec 1998 15:52:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cheddar.netmonger.net (cheddar.netmonger.net [209.54.21.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA04754 for ; Sat, 19 Dec 1998 15:52:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris@cheddar.netmonger.net) Received: (from chris@localhost) by cheddar.netmonger.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA26812; Sat, 19 Dec 1998 18:52:01 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981219185201.A26235@netmonger.net> Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 18:52:01 -0500 From: Christopher Masto To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: -current flash ATA pccard Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I aquired one of those compact flash pccard adapters recently, and as far as I can tell, this won't won't work on -current because the wd driver needs to be updated to make itself available to the pccard subsystem. I was just about to start on this, but I want to make sure I'm not wasting my time. As best as I've been able to tell from searching the mailing list archives, these are the questions I have: Does 3.0 already support the use of PCCARD ATA "drives"? I see a message or two that seems to imply this is the case, but I have been unable to get it to work, and I don't see any support for it in the source code. Is somebody already working on this? 199708080747.QAA06025@afs.ntc.mita.keio.ac.jp contains a message from Tatsumi Hosokawa that a patch is available on ftp.freebsd.org. This patch has disappeared, and I can find no further mention of it. I would like to at least start from there, if possible. I am not looking for the answer, "use PAO". I want to make it work under standard FreeBSD 3.0, but I would like to know what the current status is. -- Christopher Masto Director of Operations NetMonger Communications chris@netmonger.net info@netmonger.net http://www.netmonger.net "Good tools allow users to do stupid things." -- Clay Shirky To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sat Dec 19 16:04:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA06533 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Sat, 19 Dec 1998 16:04:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles151.castles.com [208.214.165.151]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA06521 for ; Sat, 19 Dec 1998 16:04:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA01434; Sat, 19 Dec 1998 16:02:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199812200002.QAA01434@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Christopher Masto cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: -current flash ATA pccard In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 19 Dec 1998 18:52:01 EST." <19981219185201.A26235@netmonger.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 16:02:10 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I aquired one of those compact flash pccard adapters recently, and as > far as I can tell, this won't won't work on -current because the wd > driver needs to be updated to make itself available to the pccard > subsystem. I was just about to start on this, but I want to make sure > I'm not wasting my time. As best as I've been able to tell from > searching the mailing list archives, these are the questions I have: There's some pounding on the 'wd' driver to make it work inside the new bus architecture framework at the moment. Garrett's been doing this so far - I understand he's still blocking on that, so you might want to talk to him in the context of integrating that. Alternatively, if what you want is a right-now solution, I would go grab the PAO patches and rip out just those parts that you need. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sat Dec 19 17:55:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA18061 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Sat, 19 Dec 1998 17:55:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cheddar.netmonger.net (cheddar.netmonger.net [209.54.21.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA18056 for ; Sat, 19 Dec 1998 17:55:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris@cheddar.netmonger.net) Received: (from chris@localhost) by cheddar.netmonger.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA05802; Sat, 19 Dec 1998 20:55:39 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981219205539.A5181@netmonger.net> Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 20:55:39 -0500 From: Christopher Masto To: Mike Smith Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: -current flash ATA pccard Mail-Followup-To: Mike Smith , freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG References: <19981219185201.A26235@netmonger.net> <199812200002.QAA01434@dingo.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <199812200002.QAA01434@dingo.cdrom.com>; from Mike Smith on Sat, Dec 19, 1998 at 04:02:10PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Dec 19, 1998 at 04:02:10PM -0800, Mike Smith wrote: > > I aquired one of those compact flash pccard adapters recently, and as > > far as I can tell, this won't won't work on -current because the wd > > driver needs to be updated to make itself available to the pccard > > subsystem. I was just about to start on this, but I want to make sure > > I'm not wasting my time. As best as I've been able to tell from > > searching the mailing list archives, these are the questions I have: > > There's some pounding on the 'wd' driver to make it work inside the new > bus architecture framework at the moment. Garrett's been doing this so > far - I understand he's still blocking on that, so you might want to > talk to him in the context of integrating that. My understanding of what needs to be done, at least from looking at the two drivers which appear during bootup on my laptop (sio and ep), is to add some functions to handle insertion and removal, and the DATA_SET(pccarddrv_set, ...) macro. I don't know much about the new bus architecture and its relationship to the pccard system.. I really haven't been following this. > Alternatively, if what you want is a right-now solution, I would go > grab the PAO patches and rip out just those parts that you need. Well, what I want is a right-now solution (partly because I'm going away in four days and I'd like to have it working by then), which could be the basis for a future solution. As for ripping out the PAO stuff, I tried to do that last night, but I ran into too many conflicts. PAO pccard is quite different, and it was all for the 2.2 branch. Hmm.. it looks like <199803200754.QAA09200@afs.ntc.mita.keio.ac.jp> in the archive is what I want. I will see what, if anything, needs to be done to bring that to current -current. -- Christopher Masto Director of Operations NetMonger Communications chris@netmonger.net info@netmonger.net http://www.netmonger.net "Good tools allow users to do stupid things." -- Clay Shirky To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sat Dec 19 21:19:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA04985 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Sat, 19 Dec 1998 21:19:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cheddar.netmonger.net (cheddar.netmonger.net [209.54.21.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA04979 for ; Sat, 19 Dec 1998 21:19:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris@cheddar.netmonger.net) Received: (from chris@localhost) by cheddar.netmonger.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA16749; Sun, 20 Dec 1998 00:19:49 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981220001949.A16430@netmonger.net> Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 00:19:49 -0500 From: Christopher Masto To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: -current flash ATA pccard Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org References: <19981219185201.A26235@netmonger.net> <199812200002.QAA01434@dingo.cdrom.com> <19981219205539.A5181@netmonger.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <19981219205539.A5181@netmonger.net>; from Christopher Masto on Sat, Dec 19, 1998 at 08:55:39PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Dec 19, 1998 at 08:55:39PM -0500, Christopher Masto wrote: > Hmm.. it looks like <199803200754.QAA09200@afs.ntc.mita.keio.ac.jp> in > the archive is what I want. I will see what, if anything, needs to be > done to bring that to current -current. Well, I've gotten it working. The patch mentioned above applied with one rejection, due to the new devstat stuff. I'm not quite sure what the correct approach is, but I hacked around it for the moment, and was eventually able to attach, mount, and read data from my Kodak DC210's compact flash card with SanDisk/SunDisk adapter. Most of the time was spent searching for the reason it wouldn't attach, which turned out to be that I had a "controller wdc1" line, but no device attached to it, so no entry in the isa_biotab_wdc was being created. I will clean it up and make a patch relative to current -current, along with some documentation. I guess it won't be committed for the same reason it wasn't originally - it only works if you don't already have a wdc1 (is that really the case?), but since it's the only thing we have right now, it shouldn't be so hard to find. Now I have to figure out why I'm no longer seeing insert/remove events. -- Christopher Masto Director of Operations NetMonger Communications chris@netmonger.net info@netmonger.net http://www.netmonger.net "Good tools allow users to do stupid things." -- Clay Shirky To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message