From owner-freebsd-mozilla Mon Apr 20 00:57:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA29529 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 00:57:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ms11.hinet.net (root@ms11.hinet.net [168.95.4.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA29492 for ; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 07:57:22 GMT (envelope-from douglo@technologist.com) Received: from technologist.com (h152.s9.ts32.hinet.net [163.32.9.152]) by ms11.hinet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA28287 for ; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 15:59:48 +0800 (CST) Message-ID: <353AFF03.4C4EEE6C@technologist.com> Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 15:53:39 +0800 From: James moore X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.6-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Couple of questions about Mozilla. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=big5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, folks, I have couple of questions about Mozilla. If anyone know, please tell me, thanks in advance. 1) Where can I download Mozilla under FreeBSD 2.2.6-RELEASE? 2) Should I need Motif? If not, what tools should I need? 3) Does Mozilla contain Messenger, Collabra...etc? Or it ONLY contains web browser. Best regards, James. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Tue Apr 21 12:19:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA25772 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 12:19:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from arh0300.urh.uiuc.edu (arh0300.urh.uiuc.edu [130.126.72.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA25727; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 19:19:25 GMT (envelope-from dannyman@arh0300.urh.uiuc.edu) Received: (from dannyman@localhost) by arh0300.urh.uiuc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.5) id OAA03812; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 14:19:12 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <19980421141912.47324@arh0300.urh.uiuc.edu> Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 14:19:12 -0500 From: dannyman To: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: mozilla press release - fill in the blank! Reply-To: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, freebsd-mozilla@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=UOF0GtieIMvvwuan X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i X-Loop: djhoward@uiuc.edu X-URL: http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/djhoward/ Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --UOF0GtieIMvvwuan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii [note followup-to: advocacy] hey guys. i have written, as per discussion on -hackers, i think, some time back, a news release about the CVS archive for mozilla. i've gotten sidetracked by schoolwork, but i want this out the door ASAP. one thing anyone on -advocacy can do, and i only subscribed recently, is suply a good quote about how nice CVS is or something, otherwise proof/correct this thing, and offer elucidation as to where to disseminate such a critter and under whose authority. if nothing else, maybe please _someone gimme a nice quote_ about CVS .. it's kinda like "yadda yadda CVS helps me run a multi-million dollar network and makes me a stallion with my wife and that's why FreeBSD will destroy Microsoft and make Linus look even humbler than he is" said FreeBSD user joe blow, of Some Place, Inc. or the like ... of course, we want something honest and plausible sounding that seems to work in a news release. thanks for any input or help that you guys can provide! -dan -- // dannyman yori aiokomete || Our Honored Symbol deserves \\/ http://www.dannyland.org/~dannyman/ || an Honorable Retirement (UIUC) --UOF0GtieIMvvwuan Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="btw275-mozilla.txt" Wednesday, April 22 1998 -- For Immediate Release FREEBSD MOZILLA GROUP ESTABLISHES CVS ARCHIVE FreeBSD users serious about Mozilla development ============================================================================= Following the establishment of the FreeBSD Mozilla Group and a centralized CVS file archive over the past weekend, FreeBSD users can now track changes to Netscape Communicator's Mozilla source code with ease. The FreeBSD Mozilla Group has been established in order to coordinate development of Netscape's next-generation web browser, dubbed "Mozilla", for the FreeBSD platform. Following the recent release of the source code to Mozilla, several free software groups have organized to become actively involved in helping Netscape to develop the product. FreeBSD has taken a lead in establishing a centralized file repository for tracking changes to the Mozilla source code submitted by its developers. CVS is already widely used by the FreeBSD Project to coordinate changes in the source code to the operating system, enabling developers to keep track as new revisions and features are added, and to experiment with different branches of development. CVS is also useful to users who can easily update their local copies of the source code through client programs which automatically download and apply the various changes, or "patches" as they are made. Many FreeBSD users have viewed the move as a positive and useful step, and hope that the continued widespread use and convenience of CVS may help attract users to the platform, which is often overshadowed by the similar and more widely recognized Linux operating system. ::insert quote here:: Information on accessing the file archive, which can be browsed through the web, is available on the FreeBSD Mozilla Group's web site at http://www.freebsd.org/mozilla.html. The site contains information about the project, including a mailing list and instructions on synchronizing source trees through tools like CVSup, as well as links to information on using CVS for other applications. FreeBSD is a 4.4BSD-Lite based operating system for Intel architecture (x86) based PCs. FreeBSD and its source code is freely distributed through the Internet and is available on CD-ROM from Walnut Creek CDROM. (http://www.cdrom.com/) Development, support, documentation and distribution of FreeBSD is coordinated through FreeBSD Inc. (http://www.freebsd.org/) --UOF0GtieIMvvwuan-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Tue Apr 21 12:36:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA00612 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 12:36:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.webspan.net (root@mail.webspan.net [206.154.70.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA00546 for ; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 19:36:45 GMT (envelope-from opsys@mail.webspan.net) Received: from orion.webspan.net (orion.webspan.net [206.154.70.5]) by mail.webspan.net (WEBSPAN/970608) with SMTP id PAA22418 for ; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 15:33:16 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 15:36:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Open Systems Networking X-Sender: opsys@orion.webspan.net To: freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Netscape and FreeBSD Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I just got a reply from jamie at netscape. Apparently according to him hes not heard one word or peep from anyone on the FreeBSD side on anything, CVS help, etc.. "As far as I know, nobody from the FreeBSD project has said a word to us, before your mail." "I'm sure we could use some help with this stuff; like, one of the things we want to do is have frequently-updated mirrors of the read-only CVS servers, so that the whole world isn't wacking one machine." "And doubtless there's a ton of other stuff we could help each other with; what do you have in mind? Generally I'd rather involve outsiders in the care and feeding of mozilla.org, than see the mozilla community splinter among many different locuses of mailing lists and web pages. I think everyone benefits from all the resources being closer together and more closely coordinated." That's only part of the mail, but I thought everyone would like to know that no one has offered to help them with CVS or anything else. So we still have a chance to help them out. What I dont get is why do they thank FreeBSD in their thank you's on mozilla.org if they havent heard from us yet? *shrug* The email just puzzles me. Chris -- "I am closed minded. It keeps the rain out." ===================================| Open Systems Networking And Consulting. FreeBSD 2.2.6 is available now! | Phone: 316-326-6800 -----------------------------------| 1402 N. Washington, Wellington, KS-67152 FreeBSD: The power to serve! | E-Mail: opsys@open-systems.net http://www.freebsd.org | Consulting-Network Engineering-Security ===================================| http://open-systems.net -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQENAzPemUsAAAEH/06iF0BU8pMtdLJrxp/lLk3vg9QJCHajsd25gYtR8X1Px1Te gWU0C4EwMh4seDIgK9bzFmjjlZOEgS9zEgia28xDgeluQjuuMyUFJ58MzRlC2ONC foYIZsFyIqdjEOCBdfhH5bmgB5/+L5bjDK6lNdqD8OAhtC4Xnc1UxAKq3oUgVD/Z d5UJXU2xm+f08WwGZIUcbGcaonRC/6Z/5o8YpLVBpcFeLtKW5WwGhEMxl9WDZ3Kb NZH6bx15WiB2Q/gZQib3ZXhe1xEgRP+p6BnvF364I/To9kMduHpJKU97PH3dU7Mv CXk2NG3rtOgLTEwLyvtBPqLnbx35E0JnZc0k5YkABRO0JU9wZW4gU3lzdGVtcyA8 b3BzeXNAb3Blbi1zeXN0ZW1zLm5ldD4= =BBjp -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Tue Apr 21 14:27:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA28313 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 14:27:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cimlogic.com.au (cimlogic.com.au [203.36.2.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA28257 for ; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 21:27:31 GMT (envelope-from jb@cimlogic.com.au) Received: (from jb@localhost) by cimlogic.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.7) id HAA01596; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 07:26:19 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from jb) From: John Birrell Message-Id: <199804212126.HAA01596@cimlogic.com.au> Subject: Re: Netscape and FreeBSD In-Reply-To: from Open Systems Networking at "Apr 21, 98 03:36:36 pm" To: opsys@mail.webspan.net (Open Systems Networking) Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 07:26:19 +1000 (EST) Cc: freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Open Systems Networking wrote: > "As far as I know, nobody from the FreeBSD project has said a word to us, > before your mail." I thought by talking to Christoph Toshok who "is one of the few people running freebsd at work, and probably the only person using it for development", we were doing that. -- John Birrell - jb@cimlogic.com.au; jb@freebsd.org http://www.cimlogic.com.au/ CIMlogic Pty Ltd, GPO Box 117A, Melbourne Vic 3001, Australia +61 418 353 137 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Tue Apr 21 14:49:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA03260 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 14:49:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.webspan.net (root@mail.webspan.net [206.154.70.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA02970 for ; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 21:48:03 GMT (envelope-from opsys@mail.webspan.net) Received: from orion.webspan.net (orion.webspan.net [206.154.70.5]) by mail.webspan.net (WEBSPAN/970608) with SMTP id RAA25819; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 17:44:27 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 17:47:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Open Systems Networking X-Sender: opsys@orion.webspan.net To: John Birrell cc: freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Netscape and FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <199804212126.HAA01596@cimlogic.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 22 Apr 1998, John Birrell wrote: > I thought by talking to Christoph Toshok who > "is one of the few people running freebsd at work, and probably the > only person using it for development", we were doing that. I'm confused. I saw one post from chris a few days back maybe a week about having the freebsd-mozilla list added to their pages at mozilla.org or something like that. But according to jamie my mail which I mailed out to him yesterday, he doesn't know anything. Now to ME and i'm wrong more often than not, this looks like netscape has individual factions inside. And there not talking to each other. I was plenty vocal about this entire entscape deal, and getting our own CVS tree created. To me this is a very important advocacy opportunity we have here. To help netscape do their CVS tree, get a web front end to it with cvsweb, etc.. I dont want to "piss on the table just cause we dont have a seat" as jordan put it I think a few days ago when I posted about andreesen choosing linux as their developer muscle, but are we (anyone trying to do advocacy things for freebsd) talking to the right people? I dont want to talk against chris at netscape but if jamie doesn't even know were alive how do we remedy that? I just dont want to see us blow a chance to recognized. Chris -- "I am closed minded. It keeps the rain out." ===================================| Open Systems Networking And Consulting. FreeBSD 2.2.6 is available now! | Phone: 316-326-6800 -----------------------------------| 1402 N. Washington, Wellington, KS-67152 FreeBSD: The power to serve! | E-Mail: opsys@open-systems.net http://www.freebsd.org | Consulting-Network Engineering-Security ===================================| http://open-systems.net -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQENAzPemUsAAAEH/06iF0BU8pMtdLJrxp/lLk3vg9QJCHajsd25gYtR8X1Px1Te gWU0C4EwMh4seDIgK9bzFmjjlZOEgS9zEgia28xDgeluQjuuMyUFJ58MzRlC2ONC foYIZsFyIqdjEOCBdfhH5bmgB5/+L5bjDK6lNdqD8OAhtC4Xnc1UxAKq3oUgVD/Z d5UJXU2xm+f08WwGZIUcbGcaonRC/6Z/5o8YpLVBpcFeLtKW5WwGhEMxl9WDZ3Kb NZH6bx15WiB2Q/gZQib3ZXhe1xEgRP+p6BnvF364I/To9kMduHpJKU97PH3dU7Mv CXk2NG3rtOgLTEwLyvtBPqLnbx35E0JnZc0k5YkABRO0JU9wZW4gU3lzdGVtcyA8 b3BzeXNAb3Blbi1zeXN0ZW1zLm5ldD4= =BBjp -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Tue Apr 21 14:54:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA04585 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 14:54:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from terror.hungry.com (toshok@[199.181.107.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA04463 for ; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 21:53:59 GMT (envelope-from toshok@Hungry.COM) Received: (from toshok@localhost) by terror.hungry.com (8.9.0.Beta5/8.9.0.Beta5) id OAA00990; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 14:53:55 -0700 (PDT) To: freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Netscape and FreeBSD References: <199804212126.HAA01596@cimlogic.com.au> From: Christoph Toshok Date: 21 Apr 1998 14:53:55 -0700 In-Reply-To: jb@cimlogic.com.au's message of 21 Apr 1998 14:44:11 -0700 Message-ID: Lines: 21 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG jb@cimlogic.com.au (John Birrell) writes: > > Open Systems Networking wrote: > > "As far as I know, nobody from the FreeBSD project has said a word to us, > > before your mail." > > I thought by talking to Christoph Toshok who > "is one of the few people running freebsd at work, and probably the > only person using it for development", we were doing that. unfortunately not. by being a netscape employee, I am the person most netscape people ask freebsd questions (relating to the port or otherwise) to, but I'm not part of the administrative arm of mozilla.org. also, I was under the impression that you guys didn't *want* to be directly associated with mozilla.org (i mean, have your mailing list gatewayed to there and use their CVS repository) so I never mentioned it to the mozilla.org people. It didn't seem necessary. I apologize. christoph To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Tue Apr 21 14:58:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA05509 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 14:58:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cimlogic.com.au (cimlogic.com.au [203.36.2.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA05377 for ; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 21:57:53 GMT (envelope-from jb@cimlogic.com.au) Received: (from jb@localhost) by cimlogic.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.7) id HAA00286; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 07:56:33 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from jb) From: John Birrell Message-Id: <199804212156.HAA00286@cimlogic.com.au> Subject: Re: Netscape and FreeBSD In-Reply-To: from Open Systems Networking at "Apr 21, 98 05:47:46 pm" To: opsys@mail.webspan.net (Open Systems Networking) Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 07:56:33 +1000 (EST) Cc: jb@cimlogic.com.au, freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Open Systems Networking wrote: > I'm confused. I saw one post from chris a few days back maybe a week about > having the freebsd-mozilla list added to their pages at mozilla.org or > something like that. But according to jamie my mail which I mailed out to > him yesterday, he doesn't know anything. Let's just assume that he means mail to the mozilla.org lists. > To help netscape do their CVS > tree, get a web front end to it with cvsweb, etc.. Netscape or mozilla.org are only talking about read-only access to their CVS tree. So what "help" is required? We could do it for them, no sweat, but don't want to lose control. > I dont want to > talk against chris at netscape but if jamie doesn't even know were alive > how do we remedy that? I just dont want to see us blow a chance to > recognized. I'll try sending mail to suggestions@mozilla.org asking what help they want. I guess that if there is a lack of communication on our part, we should try to address that. -- John Birrell - jb@cimlogic.com.au; jb@freebsd.org http://www.cimlogic.com.au/ CIMlogic Pty Ltd, GPO Box 117A, Melbourne Vic 3001, Australia +61 418 353 137 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Tue Apr 21 15:12:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA08571 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 15:12:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from terror.hungry.com (toshok@[199.181.107.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA08471 for ; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 22:11:32 GMT (envelope-from toshok@Hungry.COM) Received: (from toshok@localhost) by terror.hungry.com (8.9.0.Beta5/8.9.0.Beta5) id PAA02068; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 15:11:27 -0700 (PDT) To: freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Netscape and FreeBSD References: <199804212156.HAA00286@cimlogic.com.au> From: Christoph Toshok Date: 21 Apr 1998 15:11:26 -0700 In-Reply-To: jb@cimlogic.com.au's message of 21 Apr 1998 15:01:48 -0700 Message-ID: Lines: 32 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG jb@cimlogic.com.au (John Birrell) writes: > Open Systems Networking wrote: > > I'm confused. I saw one post from chris a few days back maybe a week about > > having the freebsd-mozilla list added to their pages at mozilla.org or > > something like that. But according to jamie my mail which I mailed out to > > him yesterday, he doesn't know anything. > > Let's just assume that he means mail to the mozilla.org lists. > > > To help netscape do their CVS > > tree, get a web front end to it with cvsweb, etc.. > > Netscape or mozilla.org are only talking about read-only access to their > CVS tree. So what "help" is required? We could do it for them, no sweat, > but don't want to lose control. > > > I dont want to > > talk against chris at netscape but if jamie doesn't even know were alive > > how do we remedy that? I just dont want to see us blow a chance to > > recognized. > > I'll try sending mail to suggestions@mozilla.org asking what help they > want. I guess that if there is a lack of communication on our part, we > should try to address that. jamie *does* know you're alive. The whole reason I sent the mail discussing mailing lists on mozilla.org was that I talked to jamie and brendan, and they suggested getting the mailing lists on mozilla.org. his problem is that none of *you* contacted him. he doesn't consider me one of you, for some reason. christoph To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Tue Apr 21 15:19:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA09885 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 15:19:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.webspan.net (root@mail.webspan.net [206.154.70.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA09777 for ; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 22:18:53 GMT (envelope-from opsys@mail.webspan.net) Received: from orion.webspan.net (orion.webspan.net [206.154.70.5]) by mail.webspan.net (WEBSPAN/970608) with SMTP id SAA03072; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 18:15:19 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 18:18:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Open Systems Networking X-Sender: opsys@orion.webspan.net To: Christoph Toshok cc: freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Netscape and FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 21 Apr 1998, Christoph Toshok wrote: > unfortunately not. by being a netscape employee, I am the person most > netscape people ask freebsd questions (relating to the port or > otherwise) to, but I'm not part of the administrative arm of > mozilla.org. > > also, I was under the impression that you guys didn't *want* to be > directly associated with mozilla.org (i mean, have your mailing list > gatewayed to there and use their CVS repository) so I never mentioned > it to the mozilla.org people. It didn't seem necessary. I apologize. Ok I don't know how this happened. The last reply to the message chris is referring to above that I saw was from danny while doing the mozilla PR soon to be release I might ad :) And he replied YES to both cases, YES to having our mailing list mirrored at www.mozilla.org and YES to using their CVS repository so we can keep OUR mozilla tree up to date but yet still keep a FreeBSD port well maintained and feed patches back to mozilla people. So is this acceptable to popular opinion? Cause we need to keep our stories straight. And take advantage of chris' generous offer to be liason for us to the mozilla people. So if anyone objects to the above speak up. Chris -- "I am closed minded. It keeps the rain out." ===================================| Open Systems Networking And Consulting. FreeBSD 2.2.6 is available now! | Phone: 316-326-6800 -----------------------------------| 1402 N. 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Thu Apr 23 11:14:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA24860 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 11:14:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from theta.iis.u-tokyo.ac.jp (theta.iis.u-tokyo.ac.jp [157.82.98.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA24495 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 11:14:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ignaz@fujita3.iis.u-tokyo.ac.jp) Received: from yari.iis.u-tokyo.ac.jp (yari.iis.u-tokyo.ac.jp [157.82.98.143]) by theta.iis.u-tokyo.ac.jp (8.8.6/3.6W) with ESMTP id DAA29163 for ; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 03:14:15 +0900 (JST) Received: from daikon.fujita3.iis.u-tokyo.ac.jp (daikon.fujita3.iis.u-tokyo.ac.jp [157.82.109.70]) by yari.iis.u-tokyo.ac.jp (8.8.6/3.6W) with SMTP id DAA29323 for ; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 03:14:14 +0900 (JST) Received: from shake.fujita3.iis.u-tokyo.ac.jp by daikon.fujita3.iis.u-tokyo.ac.jp (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/3.4W2) id AA15132; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 03:14:13 +0900 Message-Id: <353F833E.57D5AF8E@fujita3.iis.u-tokyo.ac.jp> Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 03:06:54 +0900 From: Ignaz KOHLBECKER Organization: Institute of Industrial Science, University of Tokyo X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE i386) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cache, applet sound, zombie process Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Observations with Communicator-4.04: Clearing disk cache makes forget the disk cache, but does not really delete cache files on disk. Sound in applets can't be heared when played in the netscape browser, however can when heared with appletviewer that comes with JDK. Communicator-4.04.bin often leaves zombie process after quit, which keeps machine busy. Needs kill -9. See details at: http://www.fujita3.iis.u-tokyo.ac.jp/~ignaz/upgrade.html Ignaz Kohlbecker To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message