From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Mar 29 20:11:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA19198 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 20:11:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA19032 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 20:11:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA01575; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 14:50:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199803292250.OAA01575@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Bryan K. Ogawa" cc: eivind@yes.no, bbbacres@mssl.uswest.net, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: My new BT-848 card?? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 29 Mar 1998 14:32:02 PST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 14:50:33 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [I took out questions, for clearly this problem does not belong there] This is all the information that I need for now. As soon as I managed to get off my current problem which should be in less than a day I will try to generate a patch for you. Regards, Amancio > > [please continue to cc: bkogawa@primenet.com -- I'm not subscribed to > -multimedia] > > On Sat, 28 Mar 1998, Amancio Hasty wrote: > > > Hi Bryan, > > > > You need to run the following programs and post their output: > > eeprom > > sign > > For my TurboTV, the results of eeprom are errors: > > {foo} ~/bktv 14:29 ttyp3 # ./eeprom 0 256 > ioctl REEPROM fails with error 5 > {foo} ~/bktv 14:29 ttyp3 # ./eeprom 0 128 > ioctl REEPROM fails with error 5 > {foo} ~/bktv 14:29 ttyp3 # ./eeprom 0 0 > ioctl REEPROM fails with error 5 > {foo} ~/bktv 14:30 ttyp3 # ./eeprom 0 1 > ioctl REEPROM fails with error 5 > {foo} ~/bktv 14:30 ttyp3 # ./eeprom 0 64 > ioctl REEPROM fails with error 5 > {foo} ~/bktv 14:30 ttyp3 # ./eeprom 0 32 > ioctl REEPROM fails with error 5 > > (I hacked the source to print the error message). > > It looks like there's some sort of failure to read the eeprom. > > Here are the results of sign: > > {foo} ~/bktv 14:23 ttyp3 # ./sign > > signature contents, 0x01 thru 0xff: > > 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 03 00 00 00 > > i2c device found @ > 0xc0 > 0xc2 > > This is what dmesg outputs: > > bktr0 rev 18 int a irq 14 on pci0:18 > Miro TV, Temic NTSC tuner. > > The tuner does appear to be a temic tuner. > > This card displays video via fxtv correctly from the tuner and the Video > In. > > Tuner audio works, but only when selecting video in or SVideo in (when > selecting tuner in, audio is shut off). > > Any suggestions? > > > bryan k ogawa http://www.primenet.com/~bkogawa/ > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Mar 29 20:15:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA20769 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 20:15:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp03.primenet.com (smtp03.primenet.com [206.165.6.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA20508; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 20:14:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bkogawa@primenet.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp03.primenet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA06234; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 15:31:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from ip202.sjc.primenet.com(206.165.96.202), claiming to be "foo.primenet.com" via SMTP by smtp03.primenet.com, id smtpd006212; Sun Mar 29 15:31:50 1998 Received: from localhost (bkogawa@localhost) by foo.primenet.com (8.8.8/8.8.6) with SMTP id OAA21461; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 14:32:03 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: foo.primenet.com: bkogawa owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 14:32:02 -0800 (PST) From: "Bryan K. Ogawa" To: Amancio Hasty cc: eivind@yes.no, bbbacres@mssl.uswest.net, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: My new BT-848 card?? In-Reply-To: <199803282110.NAA25595@rah.star-gate.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [please continue to cc: bkogawa@primenet.com -- I'm not subscribed to -multimedia] On Sat, 28 Mar 1998, Amancio Hasty wrote: > Hi Bryan, > > You need to run the following programs and post their output: > eeprom > sign For my TurboTV, the results of eeprom are errors: {foo} ~/bktv 14:29 ttyp3 # ./eeprom 0 256 ioctl REEPROM fails with error 5 {foo} ~/bktv 14:29 ttyp3 # ./eeprom 0 128 ioctl REEPROM fails with error 5 {foo} ~/bktv 14:29 ttyp3 # ./eeprom 0 0 ioctl REEPROM fails with error 5 {foo} ~/bktv 14:30 ttyp3 # ./eeprom 0 1 ioctl REEPROM fails with error 5 {foo} ~/bktv 14:30 ttyp3 # ./eeprom 0 64 ioctl REEPROM fails with error 5 {foo} ~/bktv 14:30 ttyp3 # ./eeprom 0 32 ioctl REEPROM fails with error 5 (I hacked the source to print the error message). It looks like there's some sort of failure to read the eeprom. Here are the results of sign: {foo} ~/bktv 14:23 ttyp3 # ./sign signature contents, 0x01 thru 0xff: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 03 00 00 00 i2c device found @ 0xc0 0xc2 This is what dmesg outputs: bktr0 rev 18 int a irq 14 on pci0:18 Miro TV, Temic NTSC tuner. The tuner does appear to be a temic tuner. This card displays video via fxtv correctly from the tuner and the Video In. Tuner audio works, but only when selecting video in or SVideo in (when selecting tuner in, audio is shut off). Any suggestions? bryan k ogawa http://www.primenet.com/~bkogawa/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Mar 29 20:57:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA06917 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 20:57:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from xcf.berkeley.edu (scam.XCF.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.43.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA06905 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 20:57:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grady@scam.XCF.Berkeley.EDU) From: grady@scam.XCF.Berkeley.EDU Message-Id: <199803300457.UAA06905@hub.freebsd.org> Received: (qmail 14564 invoked from network); 30 Mar 1998 04:45:56 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO scam.XCF.Berkeley.EDU) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 30 Mar 1998 04:45:56 -0000 To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: NAS development? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <14559.891233154.1@scam.XCF.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 20:45:56 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've been thinking about writing a sound effects program to use on my laptop, and have started to look into the Network Audio System, developed at NCD a few years ago. It seems like it's a good architecture, and seems to work pretty well. But I don't hear many people talking about it. Do any of you experienced audio developers have an opinion one way or the other about NAS? Also, given that NAS does most of what I want to do at a low level, it merely remains to develop a nice interface for my application, which suggests Tk. I looked for an existing TCL interface to NAS on the net, and wasn't able to find one. Does anyone know of one, or will I have to roll my own? -- Steven grady@xcf.berkeley.edu "The late Mr. Lupner was born without a spine." "No wonder he has the posture of a boiled shrimp!" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Mar 29 23:18:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA03083 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 23:18:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ninbox.ml.org (host77-92.airnet.net [209.64.77.92]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA02985 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 23:18:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@ninbox.ml.org) Received: from ninbox.ml.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ninbox.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA00725 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 20:30:21 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <351F03BC.16A7994A@ninbox.ml.org> Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 20:30:21 -0600 From: Kris Kirby Reply-To: kris@airnet.net Organization: Absolutely None! X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-Multimedia Subject: Has anyone got the Linux RealPlayer 5.0 working? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The information I am looking for: driver modifications, special installation notes, etc. I have downloaded and attempted to use it and get library errors. Of course, that is probably due to a PEBCAC. (Problem exists between computer and chair, or me.) I've tried the ELF, not the a.out. -- Kris Kirby ------------------------------------------- TGIFreeBSD... 'Nuff said. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Mar 29 23:23:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA04448 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 23:23:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from uhf.wireless.net ([209.189.23.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA04415 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 23:23:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bad@shf.wireless.net) Received: from shf.wireless.net (shf.wireless.net [207.137.157.142]) by uhf.wireless.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA01521; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 23:23:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (bad@localhost) by shf.wireless.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA00677; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 23:23:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bad@shf.wireless.net) Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 23:23:41 -0800 (PST) From: Bernie Doehner To: kris@airnet.net cc: FreeBSD-Multimedia Subject: Re: Has anyone got the Linux RealPlayer 5.0 working? In-Reply-To: <351F03BC.16A7994A@ninbox.ml.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Kris: I am confused.. I thought Real Networks or whatever they are called stopped at version 3.0 for Unix.. WHere did you get version 5.0 from? I am successfully using version 3.0 under FreeBSD with Luigi's driver and a cheap opti931 card. Why are you asking about the Linux version anyways when you can get a native version? Bernie On Sun, 29 Mar 1998, Kris Kirby wrote: > Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 20:30:21 -0600 > From: Kris Kirby > Reply-To: kris@airnet.net > To: FreeBSD-Multimedia > Subject: Has anyone got the Linux RealPlayer 5.0 working? > > The information I am looking for: driver modifications, special > installation notes, etc. I have downloaded and attempted to use it and > get library errors. Of course, that is probably due to a PEBCAC. > (Problem exists between computer and chair, or me.) I've tried the ELF, > not the a.out. > -- > > Kris Kirby > ------------------------------------------- > TGIFreeBSD... 'Nuff said. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Mar 29 23:28:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA05736 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 23:28:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA05719 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 23:28:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA06508; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 23:28:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199803300728.XAA06508@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Bernie Doehner cc: kris@airnet.net, FreeBSD-Multimedia Subject: Re: Has anyone got the Linux RealPlayer 5.0 working? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 29 Mar 1998 23:23:41 PST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 23:28:24 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The problem is that the linux real audio player is version 5 and the freebsd real audio player is 3 even though they never had to port the real audio stuff to FreeBSD since it was originally developed on FreeBSD. Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Mar 30 09:54:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA12092 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 09:54:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from blackie.cruzers.com (cruzers.com [205.215.232.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA12083 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 09:54:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dkulp@board66.cruzers.com) Received: from board66.cruzers.com (board66.cruzers.com [205.215.233.66]) by blackie.cruzers.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA01545 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 09:54:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dkulp@localhost) by board66.cruzers.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) id JAA02705; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 09:54:24 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 09:54:24 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199803301754.JAA02705@board66.cruzers.com> From: David Kulp MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: FreeBSD-Multimedia Subject: Has anyone got the Linux RealPlayer 5.0 working? In-Reply-To: <351F03BC.16A7994A@ninbox.ml.org> References: <351F03BC.16A7994A@ninbox.ml.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Kris Kirby writes: > The information I am looking for: driver modifications, special > installation notes, etc. I have downloaded and attempted to use it and > get library errors. Of course, that is probably due to a PEBCAC. > (Problem exists between computer and chair, or me.) I've tried the ELF, > not the a.out. Funny how events coincide. I just joined this list to find out whether anyone had been working on the version 5 compatibility problem. According to mail archives, it was reported last November that the linux player causes the error: LINUX: 'ioctl' fd=5, typ=0x450(P), num=0xf not implemented I'm running -stable and still have that problem. A lot of new content being distributed by various net sources is not backwards compatible with the FBSD version 3 player. Unfortunately, Real hasn't released an FBSD version 5 even though they gave indications of being supportive of FBSD in the past. The good news is that Real has released a free SDK for their new "Real Media Architecture" version 6. This includes pre-compiled shared libraries and binaries for FreeBSD! http://www.real.com/devzone/sdks/rmsdk/index.html Their "testplayer" that is included can be used as a crude but workable helper app for new content streams that include video and the source is included. But better is the opportunity to write your own GUI. I was thinking of doing this with Tk. But, I'm not sure what the distribution restrictions are; will have to look into it. (The SDK also includes APIs for writing new content handlers and renderers on the server and client side. Also, this new SDK supports Real Time Streaming Protocol (RTSP) (there's an RFC about it) and RTP (RFC 1889) for packet protocol.) cheers, -david. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Mar 30 16:19:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA07234 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 16:19:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA07207 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 16:19:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA01267; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 16:19:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199803310019.QAA01267@rah.star-gate.com> To: David Kulp cc: FreeBSD-Multimedia , hasty@rah.star-gate.com Subject: Re: Has anyone got the Linux RealPlayer 5.0 working? In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 30 Mar 1998 09:54:24 PST." <199803301754.JAA02705@board66.cruzers.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <1264.891303546.1@rah.star-gate.com> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 16:19:06 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >LINUX: 'ioctl' fd=5, typ=0x450(P), num=0xf not implemented Thats an old problem which has been solved check out current's linux emulation layer or download my old mods to the linux emulation layer inux_ioctl-3.0-current.tar.gz from my ftp site: ftp://rah.star-gate.com/pub/linux_ioctl-3.0-current.tar.gz I don't have much time this week to work on this issue so if you have any problems integrating current's linux emulation layer to -stable post back to the list so someone can assist you. Have Fun, Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Mar 30 19:52:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA06156 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 19:52:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gaia.coppe.ufrj.br (cisigw.coppe.ufrj.br [146.164.5.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA06125 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 19:52:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jonny@coppe.ufrj.br) Received: (from jonny@localhost) by gaia.coppe.ufrj.br (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA13155; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 00:51:45 -0300 (EST) (envelope-from jonny) From: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis Message-Id: <199803310351.AAA13155@gaia.coppe.ufrj.br> Subject: Re: The FreeBSD lounge... In-Reply-To: <199803261628.RAA15469@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> from Luigi Rizzo at "Mar 26, 98 05:28:02 pm" To: luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it (Luigi Rizzo) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 00:51:45 -0300 (EST) Cc: cshenton@it.hq.nasa.gov, gurney_j@resnet.uoregon.edu, hasty@rah.star-gate.com, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org #define quoting(Luigi Rizzo) // From: Luigi Rizzo // Subject: Re: The FreeBSD lounge... // Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 17:28:02 +0100 (MET) // the way i use it is not to run a tunnel across the modem line (which // btw is not easy to set up unless you have an ethernet interface on // your machine at home -- mrouted refuses to start when you have a // single interface), but rather using a gateway program like my Answering a little late, because I wanted to test before talking. I'm right now connect through a modem, and I have a MBone tunnel established. And I'm pretty sure I don't have an ethernet card. :) Here's some output from my home machine: /etc/mrouted.conf: tunnel 200.156.1.11 146.164.63.4 metric 1 threshold 8 rate_limit 25 pruning on ifconfig -a: tun0: flags=8051 mtu 1500 inet 200.156.1.11 --> 200.156.1.66 netmask 0xffffff00 sl0: flags=c010 mtu 552 ppp0: flags=8010 mtu 1500 lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 ds0: flags=8008 mtu 65532 mrinfo: 127.0.0.1 (localhost) [version 3.8,prune,genid,mtrace]: 200.156.1.11 -> 0.0.0.0 (local) [1/1/querier/leaf] 200.156.1.11 -> 146.164.63.4 (gaia) [1/8/tunnel] Now, the same info from my tunnel endpoint: /etc/mrouted.conf: ... tunnel 146.164.63.4 200.156.1.11 metric 1 threshold 8 rate_limit 25 ... mrinfo: 127.0.0.1 (localhost) [version 3.8,prune,genid,mtrace]: 146.164.63.4 -> 0.0.0.0 (local) [1/1/querier/leaf] 146.164.63.4 -> 146.164.10.4 (ceop4.rederio.br) [3/16/tunnel] ... 146.164.63.4 -> 200.156.1.11 (dogbert.redeescola.rj.gov.br) [1/8/tunnel/leaf] Humm, I knew I should have put that newer version of mrouted in a separate dir. The last make world removed it. :) Is that too beta to put in the default FreeBSD distribution ? Jonny PS: I'll try to send some images from my bedroom to the FreeBSD lounge right now. If somebody is on-line, please say hello. -- Joao Carlos Mendes Luis jonny@gta.ufrj.br +55 21 290-4698 jonny@coppe.ufrj.br Universidade Federal do Rio de Janeiro UFRJ/COPPE/CISI PGP fingerprint: 29 C0 50 B9 B6 3E 58 F2 83 5F E3 26 BF 0F EA 67 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Mar 30 21:06:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA16933 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 21:06:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA16869 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 21:06:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA25475; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 21:04:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 21:04:24 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: "Daniel O'Connor" cc: Gianmarco Giovannelli , alk@pobox.com, nathan@rtfm.net, freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: x11amp-libc5 and setup() not implemented? In-Reply-To: <199803240637.RAA11422@cain.gsoft.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 24 Mar 1998, Daniel O'Connor wrote: > > > > My question is: what is the pivotal difference between the two classes > > > of driver? > > I really don't know, I am a registred user of oss drivers too, and I > > often use the stock drivers too, but there are something that works with > > ones and something with the others... > > Well, 2 differences are that Luigi's drivers don't support mmap()ing DMA > buffers, and don't support MIDI, whereas Voxware does both. OSS does midi, and > I think it now does mmap()ing DMA buffers. The VoxWare drivers don't support PnP-configured cards (ie new SB16s). I think? Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Mar 30 21:18:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA19589 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 21:18:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au ([139.130.136.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA19576 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 21:18:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from doconnor@cain.gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.8.8/8.6.9) with ESMTP id OAA04077; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 14:46:46 +0930 (CST) Message-Id: <199803310516.OAA04077@cain.gsoft.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Doug White cc: "Daniel O'Connor" , Gianmarco Giovannelli , alk@pobox.com, nathan@rtfm.net, freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: x11amp-libc5 and setup() not implemented? In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 30 Mar 1998 21:04:24 PST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 14:46:46 +0930 From: "Daniel O'Connor" Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Well, 2 differences are that Luigi's drivers don't support mmap()ing DMA > > buffers, and don't support MIDI, whereas Voxware does both. OSS does midi, > > I think it now does mmap()ing DMA buffers. > The VoxWare drivers don't support PnP-configured cards (ie new SB16s). > > I think? Well they do.. They don't do everything for you, ie you have to configure the card yourself when you boot the kernel with -c, but once you plug in the right values into the driver they work fine. --------------------------------------------------------------------- |Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software | |http://www.gsoft.com.au | |The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to| |choose from. -- Andrew Tanenbaum | --------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Mar 30 21:26:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA20710 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 21:26:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from person.dyn.ml.org (dynip241.efn.org [204.214.97.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA20704 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 21:26:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cjb@efn.org) Received: from localhost (cjb@localhost) by person.dyn.ml.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAA00373; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 21:27:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cjb@efn.org) X-Authentication-Warning: person.dyn.ml.org: cjb owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 21:26:57 -0800 (PST) From: Chris Brunner X-Sender: cjb@person.dyn.ml.org Reply-To: cjb@efn.org To: Doug White cc: "Daniel O'Connor" , Gianmarco Giovannelli , alk@pobox.com, nathan@rtfm.net, freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: x11amp-libc5 and setup() not implemented? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 30 Mar 1998, Doug White wrote: > On Tue, 24 Mar 1998, Daniel O'Connor wrote: > > > > > > > My question is: what is the pivotal difference between the two classes > > > > of driver? > > > I really don't know, I am a registred user of oss drivers too, and I > > > often use the stock drivers too, but there are something that works with > > > ones and something with the others... > > > > Well, 2 differences are that Luigi's drivers don't support mmap()ing DMA > > buffers, and don't support MIDI, whereas Voxware does both. OSS does midi, and > > I think it now does mmap()ing DMA buffers. > > The VoxWare drivers don't support PnP-configured cards (ie new SB16s). > > I think? Don't mean to contradict you, Doug, but I have my SB32 PnP working with VOXWARE on -CURRENT and it works fine. I had it working under 2.2.5 and 2.2.1 as well. - Chris Brunner - - cjb@efn.org - ********** Fortune ********** I don't believe there really IS a GAS SHORTAGE.. I think it's all just a BIG HOAX on the part of the plastic sign salesmen -- to sell more numbers!! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Mar 30 21:32:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA21680 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 21:32:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA21663 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 21:32:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA03596; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 21:32:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 21:32:14 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Daniel W McRobb cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: video capture and camera recommendations In-Reply-To: <199803272101.QAA01034@bebop.aa.ans.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 27 Mar 1998, Daniel W McRobb wrote: > > Anyone have suggestions? I'm looking to set up an MBONE machine, but > not break the bank. It looks like the Wincast/TV card is a reasonable > cheap option for video capture, but does Hauppauge make one with S-video > input? What about camera recommendations? The WinCast/TV does both svideo and RCA-style connectors. I'm just using an old camcorder for my video input. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Mar 30 21:45:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA23758 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 21:45:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA23753 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 21:45:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA02315; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 21:43:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199803310543.VAA02315@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: cjb@efn.org cc: Doug White , "Daniel O'Connor" , Gianmarco Giovannelli , alk@pobox.com, nathan@rtfm.net, freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: x11amp-libc5 and setup() not implemented? In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 30 Mar 1998 21:26:57 PST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 21:43:29 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The primary difference between the Voware stuff and Luigi's driver is that Luigi wrote his from scratch did a good job and is easy to maintain . Now he Voxware stuff mutated into its current form. Hope This Helps, Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Mar 31 00:53:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA14628 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 00:53:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns1.yes.no (ns1.yes.no [195.119.24.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA14621 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 00:53:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eivind@bitbox.follo.net) Received: from bitbox.follo.net (bitbox.follo.net [194.198.43.36]) by ns1.yes.no (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA01313; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 09:53:09 GMT Received: (from eivind@localhost) by bitbox.follo.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) id KAA08009; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 10:53:48 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19980331105343.28848@follo.net> Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 10:53:43 +0200 From: Eivind Eklund To: cjb@efn.org Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: x11amp-libc5 and setup() not implemented? References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Chris Brunner on Mon, Mar 30, 1998 at 09:26:57PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Mar 30, 1998 at 09:26:57PM -0800, Chris Brunner wrote: > Don't mean to contradict you, Doug, but I have my SB32 PnP working with > VOXWARE on -CURRENT and it works fine. I had it working under 2.2.5 and > 2.2.1 as well. I tested VoxWare under -current. First, it conflicted with the PnP in -current. So, I disabled that and re-compiled (which isn't a solution, as I hack PnP drivers from time to time, but in an attempt to see if I could get this stuff to work...) Afterwards, it loaded just fine, and probed my card just fine. However, it just didn't work - attempting to access /dev/dsp (major 30, minor 3) returned 'Unknown device', while some of the other devices (e.g, the mixer) seemed to work. This was contrary to the probe message, and contrary to what seemed obvious from the old VoxWare source. Messages to support@opensound.com with detailed descriptions of the problems and an offer of whatever help I could offer resulted in no reply. So, my experience is so far that people are best off using Luigi's drivers, unless they have a strange and desperate need for MIDI... Eivind. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Mar 31 01:21:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA18309 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 01:21:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA18292 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 01:21:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id JAA22240; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 09:46:22 +0200 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199803310746.JAA22240@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: The FreeBSD lounge... To: jonny@coppe.ufrj.br (Joao Carlos Mendes Luis) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 09:46:22 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: cshenton@it.hq.nasa.gov, gurney_j@resnet.uoregon.edu, hasty@rah.star-gate.com, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199803310351.AAA13155@gaia.coppe.ufrj.br> from "Joao Carlos Mendes Luis" at Mar 31, 98 00:51:26 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > // the way i use it is not to run a tunnel across the modem line (which > // btw is not easy to set up unless you have an ethernet interface on > // your machine at home -- mrouted refuses to start when you have a > // single interface), but rather using a gateway program like my > > Answering a little late, because I wanted to test before talking. > > I'm right now connect through a modem, and I have a MBone tunnel > established. And I'm pretty sure I don't have an ethernet card. :) > > Here's some output from my home machine: > > /etc/mrouted.conf: > tunnel 200.156.1.11 146.164.63.4 metric 1 threshold 8 rate_limit 25 ok, now (after some more hacking) I know why it did not work for me. The ppp server has the ethernet on a /24 net and the ppp address assigned to my machine is also within the same /24 net. ppp works fine, (provided i turn arp proxy on for the ppp address), but mrouted ignores interfaces with potentially conflicting addresses as in my case. I can make things work by making the tests in mrouted less restrictive but Bill Fenner claims that there are reasons for that restriction and i trust his word. cheers luigi -----------------------------+-------------------------------------- Luigi Rizzo | Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione email: luigi@iet.unipi.it | Universita' di Pisa tel: +39-50-568533 | via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) fax: +39-50-568522 | http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ _____________________________|______________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Mar 31 07:33:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA04035 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 07:33:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.atipa.com (altrox.atipa.com [208.128.22.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA04030 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 07:33:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kmcc@atipa.com) Received: (qmail 25168 invoked by uid 500); 31 Mar 1998 15:31:04 -0000 Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 08:31:04 -0700 (MST) From: Kevin McCarthy To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Blender for FreeBSD released (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ---------------------Announcement------------------------ NeoGeo is happy to announce the Beta release of a Linux and FreeBSD version of Blender at April 15 1998 We expect the first Beta users to help us complete testing and evaluating, especially for the various PC configurations. An official version will be released 4 to 6 weeks later. Time schedule: - April 15: Beta versions V1.3x - May-June: Official versions V1.4x - June-July: Manual version V1.5x - Sept: Complete version V1.8x - ???: Pro version V2.0x Other platfoms - Amiga/Mac/Alpha - and Windows95/NT are not scheduled yet. Currently only a very sparse manual is available. This is work under construction. Publishing the manual will be NeoGeo's first commercial activity with Blender. NeoGeo's strategy is to keep the program core freeware, while generating revenues with add-ons like plug-ins, extra tools and tutorials. ------------------------Blender------------------------------- Blender is the freeware 3D package - currently only available for SGI - that has become very popular with students, artists and at universities. Being the in-house software of a high quality animation studio, it has proven to be an extremely fast and versatile design instrument. Use Blender to create TV commercials, to make technical visualizations, business graphics, to do some morphing, or design user interfaces. You can easily build and manage complex environments. The renderer is reliable and extremely fast. All basic animation principles are well implemented. Visit our web site for more information. ----------------------www.neogeo.nl--------------------------- --------------------blender@neogeo.nl------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Mar 31 07:49:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA06208 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 07:49:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from iservern.teligent.se (iservern.teligent.se [194.17.198.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA06159; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 07:49:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jakob@teligent.se) Received: from datorn.teligent.se (datorn.teligent.se [192.168.2.31]) by iservern.teligent.se (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA11467; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 17:48:45 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jakob@teligent.se) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 17:48:59 +0200 (CEST) From: Jakob Alvermark To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Printer? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id HAA06176 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello. I've got an Epson Stylus Color 300, is it possible to use under FreeBSD? If yes, how? Replies to me directly, please. TIA! Jakob Alvermark ------------------------------------------------------- Teligent AB, P.O. Box 213, S-149 23 Nynäshamn, Sweden Telephone +46-(0)8 520 660 00 * Fax +46-(0)8 520 193 36 Direct +46-(0)8 520 660 32 * GSM +46-(0)70 792 16 57 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Mar 31 08:00:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA09190 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 08:00:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fang.cs.sunyit.edu (root@fang.cs.sunyit.edu [192.52.220.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA09184 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 08:00:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perlsta@cs.sunyit.edu) Received: from win95.local.sunyit.edu (A-T34.rh.sunyit.edu [150.156.210.241]) by fang.cs.sunyit.edu (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA06019; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 11:01:52 GMT Message-ID: <001601bd5cbd$8dd59100$0600a8c0@win95.local.sunyit.edu> From: "Alfred Perlstein" To: "Jakob Alvermark" , Subject: Re: Printer? Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 10:56:23 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org yes, in fact it's very easy, you just need to configure your printerport, (should be working by default) then install "apsfilter" from the ports and the GNU-ghostscript interpreter. make sure you install the GNU ghostscript, the _wrong_ one to install it the "Alladin" interpreter. anyhow, you can find these programs in the ports directory, and i think also in the packages via the program /stand/sysisntall lastly, people find it anoying when you cross post to several lists, try not to do that anymore. enjoy, -Alfred -----Original Message----- From: Jakob Alvermark To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG ; hackers@FreeBSD.ORG ; emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tuesday, March 31, 1998 5:55 AM Subject: Printer? >Hello. > >I've got an Epson Stylus Color 300, is it possible to use under FreeBSD? >If yes, how? > >Replies to me directly, please. > >TIA! > > Jakob Alvermark > >------------------------------------------------------- > Teligent AB, P.O. Box 213, S-149 23 Nynäshamn, Sweden >Telephone +46-(0)8 520 660 00 * Fax +46-(0)8 520 193 36 > Direct +46-(0)8 520 660 32 * GSM +46-(0)70 792 16 57 > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Mar 31 11:17:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA23709 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 11:17:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA23597 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 11:17:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA02795 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 11:17:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199803311917.LAA02795@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Java Workshop in FreeBSD 8) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed ; boundary="==_Exmh_-20850834560" Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 11:17:17 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multipart MIME message. --==_Exmh_-20850834560 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii My reason to posting this message is that many times we are faced with the problem of writing a GUI or it is too hard to write a GUI for a multimedia application . I hope with the upcoming Java IDEs this problem is alleviated. -------------- JWS, Sun's Java Workshop Shop -- IDE for Java. NOTE: The debugger does not work due to JWS using a Java Native Interface that means that the distributed JWS uses a binary library for the VM machines to talk to the debugger -- this is from the linux jws patch. You will need 1. the gnu gettext so just go to your favorite gnu ftp site and download it . I forgot where I got mine from. 2. bash 3. jdk1.1.5 4. the linux patch found at: ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/SuSE-Linux/suse_update/JWS2.0/ 5. JWS2.0 --- get it from http://shop.sun.com/ . There is a 30 day evaluation one which you can download and thats what I have over here. Sun is supposed to released in mid April an upgrade JWS2.0 to support JFC 1.1. I modified startup_wrapper and locate_dirs to work in our environment. After untarring the linux patch, copy my startup_wrapper to JWS/intel-S2/bin copy my locate_dirs to JWS/solaris/bin startup_wrapper assumes that JAVA_HOME points to your jdk1.1.5 installation, if not either define JAVA_HOME or edit startup_wrapper. To run JWS, intel-S2/bin/jws That, that, thats folks! 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Hasty cc: Luigi Rizzo , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The FreeBSD lounge... In-Reply-To: <199803252257.OAA29149@rah.star-gate.com> Message-ID: X-uri: http://www.ludd.luth.se/users/gozer/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 25 Mar 1998, Amancio Hasty wrote: > Oh, and I really would like to see a FreeBSD box advertising the > FreeBSD Mbone channel. I hope the one who is announcing freebsd lounge is using mAnnouncer, it's a java-app that runs in the background, works like a charm with the jdk1.1.5 freebsd-port ;-) > > Have Fun, > Amancio > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message > > Johan -- * mailto:gozer@ludd.luth.se * http://www.ludd.luth.se/users/gozer/ * * Powered by FreeBSD. http://www.se.freebsd.org/ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ * To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Mar 31 17:02:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA08100 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 17:02:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freebsd.scds.com (jseger.shore.net [204.167.102.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA08093 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 17:02:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jseger@freebsd.scds.com) Received: (from jseger@localhost) by freebsd.scds.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) id UAA16418; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 20:09:00 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 20:09:00 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199804010109.UAA16418@freebsd.scds.com> From: "Justin M. Seger" To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Mbone Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello. I know that this isn't really a FreeBSD related issue, however this list seems like my best bet. Is there anywhere I can get an MBone tunnel to from my current ISP? I asked them if they supported MBone, and the answer was "not currently". Apparently they are looking into it, however I was wondering if there is anything I can do to get onto the MBone presently without switching ISPs. Thanks in advance, -Justin Seger- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Mar 31 18:35:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA20188 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 18:35:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fanfic.org (fanfic.org [205.150.35.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA20178 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 18:35:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dstenn@fanfic.org) Received: from fanfic.org (localhost.fanfic.org [127.0.0.1]) by fanfic.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA17919 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 21:34:47 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from dstenn@fanfic.org) Posted-Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 21:34:47 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 21:34:47 -0500 (EST) From: Dennis Tenn To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Error while compiling sound support for SB PnP AWE64. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Before I ask for help.. Let me just say that I've been using FreeBSD for a while now and had the soundcard working perfectly before. Now I can't get the support compiled in the kernel. Every time I try I get this just as it is trying to load the kernel.. loading kernel dev_table.o: Undefined symbol `_attach_sb16midi' referenced from data segment dev_table.o: Undefined symbol `_probe_sb16midi' referenced from data segment sb_dsp.o: Undefined symbol `_sb16midiintr' referenced from text segment *** Error code 1 Stop. The file I use to make the kernel is the same one I've always used.. I tend to do weekly cvsups.. I'm using 3.0-Current. Any ideas what happened? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Dennis Tenn * There will always come a time dstenn@fanfic.org * When your love will be tested ICQ# 1457509 * Stand tall and rise to the occasion * For only then will you grow strong. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Mar 31 18:37:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA20415 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 18:37:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fanfic.org (fanfic.org [205.150.35.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA20406 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 18:37:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dstenn@fanfic.org) Received: from fanfic.org (localhost.fanfic.org [127.0.0.1]) by fanfic.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA17940 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 21:37:24 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from dstenn@fanfic.org) Posted-Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 21:37:24 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 21:37:24 -0500 (EST) From: Dennis Tenn To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: NEC CD-ROM DRIVE:464 1.04 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Is anyone familiar with the NCR Model 464 SCSI-II CD-ROM? It's a 24x drive. It works great but when I try to rip songs from a CD it never comes off correctly.. As far as support for this drive under FreeBSD is concerned.. How compatible is it with the OS? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Dennis Tenn * There will always come a time dstenn@fanfic.org * When your love will be tested ICQ# 1457509 * Stand tall and rise to the occasion * For only then will you grow strong. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Mar 31 18:44:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA21661 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 18:44:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from quokka.prth.tensor.pgs.com (quokka.prth.tensor.pgs.com [157.147.100.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA21655 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 18:44:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shocking@ariadne.prth.tensor.pgs.com) Received: from ariadne.tensor.pgs.com (ariadne [157.147.227.36]) by quokka.prth.tensor.pgs.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA07623 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 10:44:05 +0800 (WST) Received: from ariadne by ariadne.tensor.pgs.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA19764; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 10:43:58 +0800 Message-Id: <199804010243.KAA19764@ariadne.tensor.pgs.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Descent & libvgl Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 10:43:58 +0800 From: Stephen Hocking-Senior Programmer PGS Tensor Perth Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org A long time ago, someone mentioned that they had tried to get the descent code working with libvgl, but had problems getting the palette out of the system. Could that person please come forward & tell me if they had any success, what the state of their code is et cetera? I have X11 working, joystick support almost done and I also plan on integrating the Linux sound code. Stephen To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Mar 31 18:47:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA21963 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 18:47:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fanfic.org (fanfic.org [205.150.35.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA21948 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 18:46:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dstenn@fanfic.org) Received: from fanfic.org (localhost.fanfic.org [127.0.0.1]) by fanfic.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA17975 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 21:46:18 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from dstenn@fanfic.org) Posted-Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 21:46:18 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 21:46:18 -0500 (EST) From: Dennis Tenn To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Error while compiling sound support for SB PnP AWE64. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 31 Mar 1998, Dennis Tenn wrote: | The file I use to make the kernel is the same one I've always used.. I | tend to do weekly cvsups.. I'm using 3.0-Current. Any ideas what | happened? I just realized.. These are the entries for my soundcard in my kernel file.. controller pnp0 controller snd0 device sb0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 vector sbintr device sbxvi0 at isa? drq 5 device opl0 at isa? port 0x388 device awe0 at isa? port 0x620 And if this compiled and installed correctly I would then have to enter in the Kernel Configuration screen on reboot: pnp 1 0 os enable port0 0x220 port1 0x330 port2 0x388 irq0 5 drq0 1 drq1 5 pnp 1 2 os enable port0 0x620 port1 0xa20 port2 0xe20 for the soundcard to be recognized. The last time I had it working was.. Mar 24 22:34:43 fanfic /kernel: sb0 at 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 on isa Mar 24 22:34:43 fanfic /kernel: snd0: Mar 24 22:34:43 fanfic /kernel: sbxvi0 at ? drq 5 on isa Mar 24 22:34:43 fanfic /kernel: snd0: Mar 24 22:34:43 fanfic /kernel: sbmidi0 at 0x330 on isa Mar 24 22:34:43 fanfic /kernel: snd0: Mar 24 22:34:43 fanfic /kernel: opl0 at 0x388 on isa Mar 24 22:34:43 fanfic /kernel: snd0: Mar 24 22:34:43 fanfic /kernel: awe0 at 0x620 on isa Mar 24 22:34:43 fanfic /kernel: awe0: -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Dennis Tenn * There will always come a time dstenn@fanfic.org * When your love will be tested ICQ# 1457509 * Stand tall and rise to the occasion * For only then will you grow strong. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Mar 31 22:37:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA23901 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 22:37:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from www.giovannelli.it (www.giovannelli.it [194.184.65.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA23896 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 22:36:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gmarco@giovannelli.it) Received: from giovannelli.it (modem00.masternet.it [194.184.65.254]) by www.giovannelli.it (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA00284; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 08:42:08 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <3521FD55.BAD23A37@giovannelli.it> Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 08:39:49 +0000 From: Gianmarco Giovannelli X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dennis Tenn CC: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NEC CD-ROM DRIVE:464 1.04 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dennis Tenn wrote: > > Is anyone familiar with the NCR Model 464 SCSI-II CD-ROM? It's a 24x > drive. It works great but when I try to rip songs from a CD it never > comes off correctly.. As far as support for this drive under FreeBSD is > concerned.. How compatible is it with the OS? Here it is : cd0 at scbus0 target 5 lun 0 cd0: type 5 removable SCSI 2 cd0: CD-ROM can't get the size ahc0:A:6: refuses WIDE negotiation. Using 8bit transfers I never tried to use it to rip the sounds but it has never missed a byte under FreeBSD ... -- Regards... Gianmarco "Unix expert since yesterday" http://www.giovannelli.it To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Mar 31 22:52:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA27099 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 22:52:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fanfic.org (fanfic.org [205.150.35.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA27084 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 22:52:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dstenn@fanfic.org) Received: from fanfic.org (localhost.fanfic.org [127.0.0.1]) by fanfic.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA18623; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 01:52:31 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from dstenn@fanfic.org) Posted-Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 01:52:31 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 01:52:31 -0500 (EST) From: Dennis Tenn To: Gianmarco Giovannelli cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NEC CD-ROM DRIVE:464 1.04 In-Reply-To: <3521FD55.BAD23A37@giovannelli.it> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 1 Apr 1998, Gianmarco Giovannelli wrote: | > Is anyone familiar with the NCR Model 464 SCSI-II CD-ROM? It's a 24x | > drive. It works great but when I try to rip songs from a CD it never | > comes off correctly.. As far as support for this drive under FreeBSD is | > concerned.. How compatible is it with the OS? | | cd0 at scbus0 target 5 lun 0 | cd0: type 5 removable SCSI 2 | cd0: CD-ROM can't get the size | ahc0:A:6: refuses WIDE negotiation. Using 8bit transfers | | I never tried to use it to rip the sounds but it has never missed a byte | under FreeBSD ... Thanks for the info. I actually have it working in my system and haven't had any problems with it except when I try to rip songs. I notice that your firmware revision is just a bit newer than mine and you said you've never tried to rip songs with it. If you ever try could you let me know if it worked? Thanks. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Dennis Tenn * There will always come a time dstenn@fanfic.org * When your love will be tested ICQ# 1457509 * Stand tall and rise to the occasion * For only then will you grow strong. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Mar 31 23:18:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA01853 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 23:18:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from www.giovannelli.it (www.giovannelli.it [194.184.65.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA01846 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 23:18:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gmarco@giovannelli.it) Received: from giovannelli.it (modem00.masternet.it [194.184.65.254]) by www.giovannelli.it (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA00370; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 09:23:32 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <3522070D.D2A0C27F@giovannelli.it> Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 09:21:17 +0000 From: Gianmarco Giovannelli X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dennis Tenn CC: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NEC CD-ROM DRIVE:464 1.04 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dennis Tenn wrote: > > On Wed, 1 Apr 1998, Gianmarco Giovannelli wrote: > > | > Is anyone familiar with the NCR Model 464 SCSI-II CD-ROM? It's a 24x > | > drive. It works great but when I try to rip songs from a CD it never > | > comes off correctly.. As far as support for this drive under FreeBSD is > | > concerned.. How compatible is it with the OS? > | > | cd0 at scbus0 target 5 lun 0 > | cd0: type 5 removable SCSI 2 > | cd0: CD-ROM can't get the size > | ahc0:A:6: refuses WIDE negotiation. Using 8bit transfers > | > | I never tried to use it to rip the sounds but it has never missed a byte > | under FreeBSD ... > > Thanks for the info. I actually have it working in my system and haven't > had any problems with it except when I try to rip songs. I notice that > your firmware revision is just a bit newer than mine and you said you've > never tried to rip songs with it. If you ever try could you let me know > if it worked? Thanks. If you tell me which program are you using I'll be happy to test it ... -- Regards... Gianmarco "Unix expert since yesterday" http://www.giovannelli.it To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Mar 31 23:20:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA02210 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 23:20:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fanfic.org (fanfic.org [205.150.35.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA02185 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 23:20:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dstenn@fanfic.org) Received: from fanfic.org (localhost.fanfic.org [127.0.0.1]) by fanfic.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA28276; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 02:19:52 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from dstenn@fanfic.org) Posted-Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 02:19:52 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 02:19:52 -0500 (EST) From: Dennis Tenn To: Gianmarco Giovannelli cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NEC CD-ROM DRIVE:464 1.04 In-Reply-To: <3522070D.D2A0C27F@giovannelli.it> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 1 Apr 1998, Gianmarco Giovannelli wrote: | > | > Is anyone familiar with the NCR Model 464 SCSI-II CD-ROM? It's a 24x | > | > drive. It works great but when I try to rip songs from a CD it never | > | > comes off correctly.. As far as support for this drive under FreeBSD is | > | > concerned.. How compatible is it with the OS? | > | | > | cd0 at scbus0 target 5 lun 0 | > | cd0: type 5 removable SCSI 2 | > | cd0: CD-ROM can't get the size | > | ahc0:A:6: refuses WIDE negotiation. Using 8bit transfers | > | | > | I never tried to use it to rip the sounds but it has never missed a byte | > | under FreeBSD ... | > | > Thanks for the info. I actually have it working in my system and haven't | > had any problems with it except when I try to rip songs. I notice that | > your firmware revision is just a bit newer than mine and you said you've | > never tried to rip songs with it. If you ever try could you let me know | > if it worked? Thanks. | | If you tell me which program are you using I'll be happy to test it ... tosha. It's found in /usr/ports/audio/tosha. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Dennis Tenn * There will always come a time dstenn@fanfic.org * When your love will be tested ICQ# 1457509 * Stand tall and rise to the occasion * For only then will you grow strong. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Mar 31 23:28:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA02802 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 23:28:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA02797 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 23:28:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA05115; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 23:28:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199804010728.XAA05115@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Justin M. Seger" cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Mbone In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 31 Mar 1998 20:09:00 EST." <199804010109.UAA16418@freebsd.scds.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 23:28:22 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At this point your best best is to switch ISP unless your ISP does not mind if someone cuts a tunnel thru him from a nearby hop and if thats a case then what you have to do is post for a MBone tunnel. Cheers, Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Apr 1 00:40:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA14904 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 00:40:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA14899 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 00:40:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA06598; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 00:36:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 00:36:47 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Johan Larsson cc: Amancio Hasty , Luigi Rizzo , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The FreeBSD lounge... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 1 Apr 1998, Johan Larsson wrote: > On Wed, 25 Mar 1998, Amancio Hasty wrote: > > > Oh, and I really would like to see a FreeBSD box advertising the > > FreeBSD Mbone channel. > > I hope the one who is announcing freebsd lounge is using mAnnouncer, it's > a java-app that runs in the background, works like a charm with the > jdk1.1.5 freebsd-port ;-) Nope, John-Mark's using sdr. I might take this over if there's a non-X solution, however. I can run it on eot which is doing virutally nothing other than forwarding mail for this mailing list, some CVS updates, and a FreeBSD web mirror. It should be on a reliable net -- it's in the CS department machine room after all. Now if I can figure out my password on it I can install the newest jdk... :-) Got a url for mannouncer, or is it a port? Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Apr 1 01:44:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA24287 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 01:44:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zed.ludd.luth.se (zed.ludd.luth.se [130.240.16.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA24282 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 01:44:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gozer@ludd.luth.se) Received: from sister.ludd.luth.se (gozer@sister.ludd.luth.se [130.240.16.77]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA19964; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 11:44:39 +0200 Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 11:44:38 +0200 (MET DST) From: Johan Larsson To: Doug White cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The FreeBSD lounge... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-uri: http://www.ludd.luth.se/users/gozer/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 1 Apr 1998, Doug White wrote: > On Wed, 1 Apr 1998, Johan Larsson wrote: > > > On Wed, 25 Mar 1998, Amancio Hasty wrote: > > > > > Oh, and I really would like to see a FreeBSD box advertising the > > > FreeBSD Mbone channel. > > > > I hope the one who is announcing freebsd lounge is using mAnnouncer, it's > > a java-app that runs in the background, works like a charm with the > > jdk1.1.5 freebsd-port ;-) > > Nope, John-Mark's using sdr. I might take this over if there's a non-X > solution, however. I can run it on eot which is doing virutally nothing > other than forwarding mail for this mailing list, some CVS updates, and a > FreeBSD web mirror. It should be on a reliable net -- it's in the CS > department machine room after all. > > Now if I can figure out my password on it I can install the newest jdk... > :-) > > Got a url for mannouncer, or is it a port? Sure, i was thinking of setting it up myself, i'm already using it soo.. (my connection is 10Mbit local and 34Mbit to the world, just in my livingroom (and thats for only 3$ a month), i just love my school ;) But sure, take a look at http://www.cdt.luth.se/~peppar/progs/mAnnouncer/ and you can also look at the http://www.cdt.luth.se/mstar/ page. Johan -- * mailto:gozer@ludd.luth.se * http://www.ludd.luth.se/users/gozer/ * * Powered by FreeBSD. http://www.se.freebsd.org/ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ * To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Apr 1 03:33:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA08582 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 03:33:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freebsd.scds.com (jseger.shore.net [204.167.102.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA08573 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 03:33:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jseger@freebsd.scds.com) Received: (from jseger@localhost) by freebsd.scds.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) id GAA03709; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 06:40:02 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 06:40:02 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199804011140.GAA03709@freebsd.scds.com> From: "Justin M. Seger" To: hasty@rah.star-gate.com CC: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <199804010728.XAA05115@rah.star-gate.com> (message from Amancio Hasty on Tue, 31 Mar 1998 23:28:22 -0800) Subject: Re: Mbone References: <199804010728.XAA05115@rah.star-gate.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org a case then what you have to do is post for a MBone tunnel. Okay... Where do I do that? Thanks in advance, -Justin Seger- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Apr 1 05:39:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA27583 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 05:39:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fang.cs.sunyit.edu (root@fang.cs.sunyit.edu [192.52.220.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA27570 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 05:39:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perlsta@cs.sunyit.edu) Received: from win95.local.sunyit.edu (A-T34.rh.sunyit.edu [150.156.210.241]) by fang.cs.sunyit.edu (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA18503; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 08:41:06 GMT Message-ID: <01a401bd5d73$144aa3a0$0600a8c0@win95.local.sunyit.edu> From: "Alfred Perlstein" To: "Dennis Tenn" , Subject: Re: Error while compiling sound support for SB PnP AWE64. Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 08:35:47 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hmmmm you are using the wrong drivers for your sound card, the voxware probably won't work correctly with a PnP card, i suggest you look in the lint at the PCM driver, it's Luigi's code that does plug and play, it's also a bit more functional is certain areas. if you WANT pain, you can try the voxware drivers, but you need to add a device "sbmidi" to your kernel config. but, uh... do we have mmap() buffers yet Luigi? -Alfred -----Original Message----- From: Dennis Tenn To: FreeBSD Current Date: Wednesday, April 01, 1998 12:20 AM Subject: Error while compiling sound support for SB PnP AWE64. > >Before I ask for help.. Let me just say that I've been using FreeBSD for >a while now and had the soundcard working perfectly before. Now I can't >get the support compiled in the kernel. Every time I try I get this just >as it is trying to load the kernel.. > >loading kernel >dev_table.o: Undefined symbol `_attach_sb16midi' referenced from data segment >dev_table.o: Undefined symbol `_probe_sb16midi' referenced from data segment >sb_dsp.o: Undefined symbol `_sb16midiintr' referenced from text segment >*** Error code 1 > >Stop. > >The file I use to make the kernel is the same one I've always used.. I >tend to do weekly cvsups.. I'm using 3.0-Current. Any ideas what >happened? > >These are the entries for my soundcard in my kernel file.. > >controller pnp0 >controller snd0 >device sb0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 vector sbintr >device sbxvi0 at isa? drq 5 >device opl0 at isa? port 0x388 >device awe0 at isa? port 0x620 > > >And if this compiled and installed correctly I would then have to enter in >the Kernel Configuration screen on reboot: > >pnp 1 0 os enable port0 0x220 port1 0x330 port2 0x388 irq0 5 drq0 1 drq1 5 >pnp 1 2 os enable port0 0x620 port1 0xa20 port2 0xe20 > > >for the soundcard to be recognized. The last time I had it working was.. > >Mar 24 22:34:43 fanfic /kernel: sb0 at 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 on isa >Mar 24 22:34:43 fanfic /kernel: snd0: >Mar 24 22:34:43 fanfic /kernel: sbxvi0 at ? drq 5 on isa >Mar 24 22:34:43 fanfic /kernel: snd0: >Mar 24 22:34:43 fanfic /kernel: sbmidi0 at 0x330 on isa >Mar 24 22:34:43 fanfic /kernel: snd0: >Mar 24 22:34:43 fanfic /kernel: opl0 at 0x388 on isa >Mar 24 22:34:43 fanfic /kernel: snd0: >Mar 24 22:34:43 fanfic /kernel: awe0 at 0x620 on isa >Mar 24 22:34:43 fanfic /kernel: awe0: > > >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > Dennis Tenn * There will always come a time > dstenn@fanfic.org * When your love will be tested > ICQ# 1457509 * Stand tall and rise to the occasion > * For only then will you grow strong. >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Apr 1 05:56:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA00338 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 05:56:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA00239 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 05:55:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id OAA24642; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 14:20:52 +0200 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199804011220.OAA24642@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: Error while compiling sound support for SB PnP AWE64. To: perlsta@cs.sunyit.edu (Alfred Perlstein) Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 14:20:52 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: dstenn@fanfic.org, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <01a401bd5d73$144aa3a0$0600a8c0@win95.local.sunyit.edu> from "Alfred Perlstein" at Apr 1, 98 08:35:28 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > hmmmm > > you are using the wrong drivers for your sound card, the voxware probably > won't work correctly with a PnP card, i suggest you look in the lint at the > PCM driver, it's Luigi's code that does plug and play, it's also a bit more > functional is certain areas. > > if you WANT pain, you can try the voxware drivers, but you need to add a > device "sbmidi" to your kernel config. > > but, uh... do we have mmap() buffers yet Luigi? mmapped buffers have been there for a long time. Of course, what you really want to know is if there is any synchronization mechanism associated with them and the answer is no, i am afraid... I am pretty sure you can simulate what you need in user space (or in the linux emulation code perhaps) with the current mechanism, but i am leaving the task to those with a need for this feature. cheers luigi -----------------------------+-------------------------------------- Luigi Rizzo | Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione email: luigi@iet.unipi.it | Universita' di Pisa tel: +39-50-568533 | via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) fax: +39-50-568522 | http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ _____________________________|______________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Apr 1 07:35:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA22370 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 07:35:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fang.cs.sunyit.edu (root@fang.cs.sunyit.edu [192.52.220.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA22364 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 07:35:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perlsta@cs.sunyit.edu) Received: from win95.local.sunyit.edu (A-T34.rh.sunyit.edu [150.156.210.241]) by fang.cs.sunyit.edu (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA21983; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 10:36:36 GMT Message-ID: <000e01bd5d83$3823a140$0600a8c0@win95.local.sunyit.edu> From: "Alfred Perlstein" To: "Edwin Culp" , "dannyman" Cc: Subject: Re: mozilla source Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 10:31:19 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hmmm, go to connectix and look at thier 3rd party drivers page, some programs can access the parralell port in userland if the have io perms. -Alfred (i use xcqcam) -----Original Message----- From: Edwin Culp To: dannyman Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Wednesday, April 01, 1998 4:36 AM Subject: Re: mozilla source >dannyman wrote: >> >> On Tue, Mar 31, 1998 at 04:10:22PM -0500, Open Systems Networking wrote: >> > >> > Just curious if there is going to be a FreeBSD/Netscape group :) >> > >> > Is there a group effort here to trim this baby, un-bloat it, debug it, for >> > FreeBSD somewhere? Or is it an everyman for himself kinda thing? >> > I know that mozilla.org has the bluesky project and whatnot, but all im >> > really interested in is a FreeBSD centered effort. I see some really cool >> > things happening now that we have the source. Cool for me being just >> > having the daemon replace the N as the icon in the top right corner :) >> >> I want that little daemon to be stabbing ballons that say "MS" on them >> while I'm downloading web pages! >> >> Of course, it should be user-configurable just what that daemon is doing. >> I might get esoteric and link it to my QuickCam. Whee! > >Caught my attention the QuickCam. I thought it wasn't supported by >FreeBSD >anymore. I want to integrate a very simple (Inexpensive:-) video >conferencing >system on our office lan. Would that be a good solution or does someone >have >something better? I would be nice for it to work with reduced quality >on a >ppp modem connection for our telecommuting folks. > >Thanks > >ed > >P.D. Would this question be better in Multimedia? > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Apr 1 14:36:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA01055 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 14:36:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fanfic.org (fanfic.org [205.150.35.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA01049 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 14:36:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dstenn@fanfic.org) Received: from fanfic.org (localhost.fanfic.org [127.0.0.1]) by fanfic.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA06488; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 17:35:41 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from dstenn@fanfic.org) Posted-Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 17:35:41 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 17:35:41 -0500 (EST) From: Dennis Tenn To: Alfred Perlstein cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Error while compiling sound support for SB PnP AWE64. In-Reply-To: <01a401bd5d73$144aa3a0$0600a8c0@win95.local.sunyit.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 1 Apr 1998, Alfred Perlstein wrote: | you are using the wrong drivers for your sound card, the voxware probably | won't work correctly with a PnP card, i suggest you look in the lint at the | PCM driver, it's Luigi's code that does plug and play, it's also a bit more | functional is certain areas. | | if you WANT pain, you can try the voxware drivers, but you need to add a | device "sbmidi" to your kernel config. | | but, uh... do we have mmap() buffers yet Luigi? Thanks but not likely.. I have been using the same driver for a while now and with success. It has just started to manifest itself. I wonder if something in the src has changed.. I plan to do a full reinstall of my OS this weekend to see if the same thing happens unless someone can point me in the right direction.. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Dennis Tenn * There will always come a time dstenn@fanfic.org * When your love will be tested ICQ# 1457509 * Stand tall and rise to the occasion * For only then will you grow strong. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Apr 1 17:43:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA21804 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 17:43:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gaia.coppe.ufrj.br (cisigw.coppe.ufrj.br [146.164.5.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA21798 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 17:43:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jonny@coppe.ufrj.br) Received: (from jonny@localhost) by gaia.coppe.ufrj.br (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA14809; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 22:42:41 -0300 (EST) (envelope-from jonny) From: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis Message-Id: <199804020142.WAA14809@gaia.coppe.ufrj.br> Subject: Re: The FreeBSD lounge... In-Reply-To: from Doug White at "Apr 1, 98 00:36:47 am" To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 22:42:40 -0300 (EST) Cc: gozer@ludd.luth.se, hasty@rah.star-gate.com, luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org #define quoting(Doug White) // Got a url for mannouncer, or is it a port? Somebody already posted the URL, but the idea of a port is tempting. Maybe I'll try make one this weekend. It should be very easy... Jonny -- Joao Carlos Mendes Luis jonny@gta.ufrj.br +55 21 290-4698 jonny@coppe.ufrj.br Universidade Federal do Rio de Janeiro UFRJ/COPPE/CISI PGP fingerprint: 29 C0 50 B9 B6 3E 58 F2 83 5F E3 26 BF 0F EA 67 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Apr 1 18:02:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA24261 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 18:02:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gaia.coppe.ufrj.br (cisigw.coppe.ufrj.br [146.164.5.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA24253 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 18:02:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jonny@coppe.ufrj.br) Received: (from jonny@localhost) by gaia.coppe.ufrj.br (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA15139; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 23:01:41 -0300 (EST) (envelope-from jonny) From: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis Message-Id: <199804020201.XAA15139@gaia.coppe.ufrj.br> Subject: Re: The FreeBSD lounge... In-Reply-To: <199803310746.JAA22240@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> from Luigi Rizzo at "Mar 31, 98 09:46:22 am" To: luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it (Luigi Rizzo) Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 23:01:41 -0300 (EST) Cc: jonny@coppe.ufrj.br, cshenton@it.hq.nasa.gov, gurney_j@resnet.uoregon.edu, hasty@rah.star-gate.com, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org #define quoting(Luigi Rizzo) // > I'm right now connected through a modem, and I have a MBone tunnel // > established. And I'm pretty sure I don't have an ethernet card. :) // // ok, now (after some more hacking) I know why it did not work for me. // The ppp server has the ethernet on a /24 net and the ppp address // assigned to my machine is also within the same /24 net. ppp works fine, // (provided i turn arp proxy on for the ppp address), but mrouted ignores // interfaces with potentially conflicting addresses as in my case. I can // make things work by making the tests in mrouted less restrictive but // Bill Fenner claims that there are reasons for that restriction and i // trust his word. I had this problem too, but now I'm using another access server, in another subnet. Have you tried to make an IP alias and use it as the "local" IP in mrouted tunnel ? This would probably fool mrouted. The best way of course would be to have multicast support native in the access server. Does somebody know if any access server supports this ? Would FreeBSD suport multicast over serial lines ? Also, a BIG problem I had was that mrouted was looping all data received from the tunnel back through the serial line. (Maybe this answers my previous question. :) ) That's why mrouted accepted to make the tunnel, as it wants two or more vifs to run. If I try to disable the tun0 vif, it refuses to run. And it does not accpet to bind to the ds0 interface. :) What would be the right way to tell mrouted that I want a tunnel just to have internal access, not routing through ? As a kludge I tried to add a firewall rule, to drop all multicast packets over tun0 interface, but this did not work. The drop rule is not a real drop, but a deny, and the programs received a socket error on trying to send anything. :( But I found an interesting workaround. Instead of droping, I used a divert rule. There was no process listenning to the divert socket, so the packet was dropped, as I wanted initially. :) The very interesting effect is that tcpdump still sees the outgoing packets, my modem SD led could finally turn off. Jonny -- Joao Carlos Mendes Luis jonny@gta.ufrj.br +55 21 290-4698 jonny@coppe.ufrj.br Universidade Federal do Rio de Janeiro UFRJ/COPPE/CISI PGP fingerprint: 29 C0 50 B9 B6 3E 58 F2 83 5F E3 26 BF 0F EA 67 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Apr 1 20:15:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA13446 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 20:15:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it ([131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA13391 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 20:14:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id EAA25754; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 04:39:35 +0200 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199804020239.EAA25754@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: The FreeBSD lounge... To: jonny@coppe.ufrj.br (Joao Carlos Mendes Luis) Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 04:39:35 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: jonny@coppe.ufrj.br, cshenton@it.hq.nasa.gov, gurney_j@resnet.uoregon.edu, hasty@rah.star-gate.com, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199804020201.XAA15139@gaia.coppe.ufrj.br> from "Joao Carlos Mendes Luis" at Apr 1, 98 11:01:22 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Have you tried to make an IP alias and use it as the "local" IP in > mrouted tunnel ? This would probably fool mrouted. did not experiment extensively with this, but i had mixed success -- somehow some problem seems to exist. Plus i am not sure on the visibility in the outside of data generated with the aliased IP. > The best way of course would be to have multicast support native in > the access server. Does somebody know if any access server supports > this ? Would FreeBSD suport multicast over serial lines ? prova# ifconfig tun0 tun0: flags=8051 mtu 1500 but still i have no idea what ppp does with this. Plus, there is the same problem with addresses. > What would be the right way to tell mrouted that I want a tunnel just > to have internal access, not routing through ? i don't know enough about mrouted internals. I will have to ask Bill Fenner about the way it works. cheers luigi -----------------------------+-------------------------------------- Luigi Rizzo | Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione email: luigi@iet.unipi.it | Universita' di Pisa tel: +39-50-568533 | via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) fax: +39-50-568522 | http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ _____________________________|______________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Apr 1 20:15:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA13603 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 20:15:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA13559 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 20:15:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id EAA25769; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 04:41:38 +0200 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199804020241.EAA25769@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: The FreeBSD lounge... To: jonny@coppe.ufrj.br (Joao Carlos Mendes Luis) Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 04:41:38 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu, gozer@ludd.luth.se, hasty@rah.star-gate.com, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199804020142.WAA14809@gaia.coppe.ufrj.br> from "Joao Carlos Mendes Luis" at Apr 1, 98 10:42:21 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > #define quoting(Doug White) > // Got a url for mannouncer, or is it a port? > > Somebody already posted the URL, but the idea of a port is > tempting. Maybe I'll try make one this weekend. It should > be very easy... if you are working on this, why not make a small standalone application written in C ? For such things we don't need a GUI or Java... cheers luigi -----------------------------+-------------------------------------- Luigi Rizzo | Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione email: luigi@iet.unipi.it | Universita' di Pisa tel: +39-50-568533 | via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) fax: +39-50-568522 | http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ _____________________________|______________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Apr 1 23:34:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA15651 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 23:34:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA15646 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 23:34:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA00326; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 23:34:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199804020734.XAA00326@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Justin M. Seger" cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Mbone In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 01 Apr 1998 06:40:02 EST." <199804011140.GAA03709@freebsd.scds.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 23:34:43 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Try mailing to: mbone@ISI.EDU Have fun, Amancio > a case then what you have to do is post for a MBone tunnel. > > Okay... Where do I do that? > > Thanks in advance, > -Justin Seger- > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Apr 2 02:07:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA15214 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 02:07:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zed.ludd.luth.se (zed.ludd.luth.se [130.240.16.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA15206 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 02:06:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gozer@ludd.luth.se) Received: from sister.ludd.luth.se (gozer@sister.ludd.luth.se [130.240.16.77]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA11645; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 12:06:31 +0200 Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 12:06:30 +0200 (MET DST) From: Johan Larsson To: Luigi Rizzo cc: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis , dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu, hasty@rah.star-gate.com, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The FreeBSD lounge... In-Reply-To: <199804020241.EAA25769@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Message-ID: X-uri: http://www.ludd.luth.se/users/gozer/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 2 Apr 1998, Luigi Rizzo wrote: > > #define quoting(Doug White) > > // Got a url for mannouncer, or is it a port? > > > > Somebody already posted the URL, but the idea of a port is > > tempting. Maybe I'll try make one this weekend. It should > > be very easy... > > if you are working on this, why not make a small standalone application > written in C ? For such things we don't need a GUI or Java... Sure we need JAVA! :-) A gui we don't need... Johan -- * mailto:gozer@ludd.luth.se * http://www.ludd.luth.se/users/gozer/ * * Powered by FreeBSD. http://www.se.freebsd.org/ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ * To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Apr 2 02:21:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA16641 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 02:21:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA16635 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 02:21:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA12044; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 02:19:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199804021019.CAA12044@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Johan Larsson cc: Luigi Rizzo , Joao Carlos Mendes Luis , dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The FreeBSD lounge... In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 02 Apr 1998 12:06:30 +0200." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 02:19:28 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Guys, As Johan stated a java program does not necessarily need to be an X program and in fact our JDK1.1.5 can run java applications which don't use X and will not load the X libraries: For example: a java program which does not use X : {hasty| ktrace java ttest ..... {hasty} kdump | grep libX A nice calendar program which uses X: ktrace java CustomDisplayer {hasty} kdump | grep libX 12002 java NAMI "/usr/local/jdk1.1.5/javasrc/build/lib/i386/green_threads/ libXm.so.2.0.0" 12002 java NAMI "/usr/local/jdk1.1.5/javasrc/build/lib/i386/green_threads /libXm.so.2.0.0" 12002 java NAMI "/usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6.1" 12002 java NAMI "/usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6.1" 12002 java NAMI "/usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6.1" 12002 java NAMI "/usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6.0" 12002 java NAMI "/usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6.0" 12002 java NAMI "/usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6.0" 12002 java NAMI "/usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6.3" 12002 java NAMI "/usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6.3" 12002 java NAMI "/usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6.3" ---------- Have Fun! Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Apr 2 02:49:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA19073 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 02:49:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA19068 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 02:49:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id LAA26200; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 11:14:09 +0200 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199804020914.LAA26200@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: The FreeBSD lounge... To: hasty@rah.star-gate.com (Amancio Hasty) Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 11:14:09 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: gozer@ludd.luth.se, jonny@coppe.ufrj.br, dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199804021019.CAA12044@rah.star-gate.com> from "Amancio Hasty" at Apr 2, 98 02:19:09 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Hi Guys, > > As Johan stated a java program does not necessarily need to be an X program > and i know perfectly, and this is why i mentioned both. But since we are on the subject, how much is the memory footprint of a barebone non-X java app, compared to say a perl script. cheers luigi -----------------------------+-------------------------------------- Luigi Rizzo | Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione email: luigi@iet.unipi.it | Universita' di Pisa tel: +39-50-568533 | via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) fax: +39-50-568522 | http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ _____________________________|______________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Apr 2 07:33:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA29116 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 07:33:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA29106 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 07:33:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id PAA26422; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 15:59:46 +0200 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199804021359.PAA26422@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: X11 fonts... To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 15:59:46 +0200 (MET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org this is not totally a -multimedia thing but since my latest postings to -hackers have been totally ignored... I noticed, using Magicpoint (in ports/misc/magicpoint) that almost all fonts look very ugly at large magnifications. After poking around a little bit i noticed that the reason is, XFree86 uses all bitmapped fonts except for a small set of Type1 fonts. I also notice that ghostscript comes with the standard postscript fonts (albeit not the ones from adobe) and they do work with X provided fonts.dir exists and the directory is in the font path. So i wonder: 1) am i the only one who does not use the scalable ghostscript fonts with the X server ? 2) is there any disadvantage (performance ?) in replacing bitmapped fonts with the corresponding Type1 ones ? (or perhaps the server is already smart enough to use bitmapped fonts if available for a given size, and resort to scalable ones only if the former are not available ? 3) Does anyone have the knowledge to write up a small script to make the X server use other fonts that might be available on the system (e.g. ghostscript, TeX, etc.) ? Unfortunately i don't know enough about this, but it does not look too hard for X programmers. cheers luigi -----------------------------+-------------------------------------- Luigi Rizzo | Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione email: luigi@iet.unipi.it | Universita' di Pisa tel: +39-50-568533 | via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) fax: +39-50-568522 | http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ _____________________________|______________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Apr 2 10:12:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA28679 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 10:12:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gaia.coppe.ufrj.br (cisigw.coppe.ufrj.br [146.164.5.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA28672 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 10:12:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jonny@coppe.ufrj.br) Received: (from jonny@localhost) by gaia.coppe.ufrj.br (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA09060; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 15:11:27 -0300 (EST) (envelope-from jonny) From: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis Message-Id: <199804021811.PAA09060@gaia.coppe.ufrj.br> Subject: Re: The FreeBSD lounge... In-Reply-To: <199804020241.EAA25769@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> from Luigi Rizzo at "Apr 2, 98 04:41:38 am" To: luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it (Luigi Rizzo) Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 15:11:27 -0300 (EST) Cc: jonny@coppe.ufrj.br, dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu, gozer@ludd.luth.se, hasty@rah.star-gate.com, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org #define quoting(Luigi Rizzo) // > #define quoting(Doug White) // > // Got a url for mannouncer, or is it a port? // > // > Somebody already posted the URL, but the idea of a port is // > tempting. Maybe I'll try make one this weekend. It should // > be very easy... // // if you are working on this, why not make a small standalone application // written in C ? For such things we don't need a GUI or Java... I personally prefer C instead of Java for 100% of applications, but I don't have the knowledge or time to rewrite the application. I'll just make the port of an already existing one. BTW: Having to choose perl or java, I prefer C. :) Jonny -- Joao Carlos Mendes Luis jonny@gta.ufrj.br +55 21 290-4698 jonny@coppe.ufrj.br Universidade Federal do Rio de Janeiro UFRJ/COPPE/CISI PGP fingerprint: 29 C0 50 B9 B6 3E 58 F2 83 5F E3 26 BF 0F EA 67 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Apr 2 10:19:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA00934 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 10:19:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA00913 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 10:19:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA13936; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 10:19:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199804021819.KAA13936@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis cc: luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it (Luigi Rizzo), dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu, gozer@ludd.luth.se, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The FreeBSD lounge... In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 02 Apr 1998 15:11:27 -0300." <199804021811.PAA09060@gaia.coppe.ufrj.br> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 10:19:05 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sorry guys, We want Java(tm) and thats the direction which I would like the group to take. Amancio > #define quoting(Luigi Rizzo) > // > #define quoting(Doug White) > // > // Got a url for mannouncer, or is it a port? > // > > // > Somebody already posted the URL, but the idea of a port is > // > tempting. Maybe I'll try make one this weekend. It should > // > be very easy... > // > // if you are working on this, why not make a small standalone application > // written in C ? For such things we don't need a GUI or Java... > > I personally prefer C instead of Java for 100% of applications, but I > don't have the knowledge or time to rewrite the application. I'll > just make the port of an already existing one. > > BTW: Having to choose perl or java, I prefer C. :) > > Jonny > > -- > Joao Carlos Mendes Luis jonny@gta.ufrj.br > +55 21 290-4698 jonny@coppe.ufrj.br > Universidade Federal do Rio de Janeiro UFRJ/COPPE/CISI > PGP fingerprint: 29 C0 50 B9 B6 3E 58 F2 83 5F E3 26 BF 0F EA 67 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Apr 2 10:35:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA04344 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 10:35:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cwbone.bsi.com.br (cwbone.bsi.com.br [200.250.250.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA04334 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 10:35:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from paulo@main.fiscodata.com.br) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwbone.bsi.com.br (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA01233; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 15:35:07 GMT Received: from main.fiscodata.com.br(200.250.227.210) via SMTP by cwbone.bsi.com.br, id smtpd001224; Thu Apr 2 15:34:57 1998 Received: (from paulo@localhost) by main.fiscodata.com.br (8.8.8/8.8.5) id PAA21223; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 15:40:22 -0300 (EST) Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 15:40:22 -0300 (EST) Message-Id: <199804021840.PAA21223@main.fiscodata.com.br> From: Paulo Cesar Pereira de Andrade To: luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it CC: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <199804021359.PAA26422@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> (message from Luigi Rizzo on Thu, 2 Apr 1998 15:59:46 +0200 (MET DST)) Subject: Re: X11 fonts... References: <199804021359.PAA26422@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -> From: Luigi Rizzo -> Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 15:59:46 +0200 (MET DST) -> -> So i wonder: -> 1) am i the only one who does not use the scalable ghostscript fonts -> with the X server ? I don't have a printer, but I think 'gv' is good enough for reading docs; ghostview does not show the text well enough. -> 2) is there any disadvantage (performance ?) in replacing bitmapped -> fonts with the corresponding Type1 ones ? (or perhaps the server -> is already smart enough to use bitmapped fonts if available for -> a given size, and resort to scalable ones only if the former -> are not available ? I think the server will use the first font it finds in the font path. There is an option in XF86Config, that is to add the string ":unscaled" to the end of a font path, so one can add the same font path twice. Like: FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" -> 3) Does anyone have the knowledge to write up a small script to make the -> X server use other fonts that might be available on the system (e.g. -> ghostscript, TeX, etc.) ? Other font formats I don't know. I have played a bit with the font paths, and could not find a better configuration than the one XF86Setup left in the XF86Config. There is at least one collection of free fonts for X. -> Unfortunately i don't know enough about this, but it does not look -> too hard for X programmers. I don't have enough knowledge to write a X extension (and add more bloating to a font specification), but at the client side I know it is not too hard to add antialiased/multi-colored fonts, but then, only your program will be able to use it. Creating bitmaped unscaled fonts at several sizes should be easy, but would require a lot of time of graphical artists. [ I'm putting my efforts in my free time (for about 2 years now) in building a free 'cool' Xt based toolkit (and never found references of other people working on something like it for FreeBSD, like de kde, gnome, gtk, enlightenment, etc for linux) ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Apr 2 12:21:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA29796 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 12:21:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA29790 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 12:21:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id UAA26894; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 20:47:59 +0200 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199804021847.UAA26894@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: The FreeBSD lounge... To: hasty@rah.star-gate.com (Amancio Hasty) Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 20:47:58 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: jonny@coppe.ufrj.br, dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu, gozer@ludd.luth.se, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199804021819.KAA13936@rah.star-gate.com> from "Amancio Hasty" at Apr 2, 98 10:18:46 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Sorry guys, > > We want Java(tm) and thats the direction which I would like the group to > take. i'll rephrase -- we want people developing apps and java looks a reasonable choice now. (will it be in 2-4 years, i have no idea). This said, I do not care about the language used to write a 50-lines mannouncer, provided it does not take anywhere between 2MB (tk/tcl script) and 10MB( netscape plugin ?) to run and the reason is i want such things to be able to run on spare hardware. cheers luigi -----------------------------+-------------------------------------- Luigi Rizzo | Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione email: luigi@iet.unipi.it | Universita' di Pisa tel: +39-50-568533 | via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) fax: +39-50-568522 | http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ _____________________________|______________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Apr 2 12:40:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA02094 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 12:40:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zed.ludd.luth.se (zed.ludd.luth.se [130.240.16.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA02089 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 12:40:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gozer@ludd.luth.se) Received: from father.ludd.luth.se (gozer@father.ludd.luth.se [130.240.16.18]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA07434 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 22:40:11 +0200 Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 22:40:09 +0200 (MET DST) From: Johan Larsson To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The FreeBSD lounge... In-Reply-To: <199804021847.UAA26894@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Message-ID: X-uri: http://www.ludd.luth.se/users/gozer/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 2 Apr 1998, Luigi Rizzo wrote: > > Sorry guys, > > > > We want Java(tm) and thats the direction which I would like the group to > > take. > > i'll rephrase -- we want people developing apps and java looks a > reasonable choice now. (will it be in 2-4 years, i have no idea). > > This said, I do not care about the language used to write a 50-lines > mannouncer, provided it does not take anywhere between 2MB (tk/tcl > script) and 10MB( netscape plugin ?) to run and the reason is i > want such things to be able to run on spare hardware. Is this reasonable enough for you? :-) PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND 7217 root 18 0 900K 876K pause 3:07 0.00% 0.00% java Of course if you write it in C it wan't take up this "much", but i think it's quite ok for a java app. Btw, why aren't you hanging out on the lounge ;) I played some music the other day, did it come thru ok (i saw that at least you luigi where there). Johan -- * mailto:gozer@ludd.luth.se * http://www.ludd.luth.se/users/gozer/ * * Powered by FreeBSD. http://www.se.freebsd.org/ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ * To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Apr 2 13:39:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA08535 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 13:39:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA08526 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 13:39:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA14628; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 13:38:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199804022138.NAA14628@rah.star-gate.com> To: Johan Larsson cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, hasty@rah.star-gate.com Subject: Re: The FreeBSD lounge... In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 02 Apr 1998 22:40:09 +0200." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <14625.891553137.1@rah.star-gate.com> Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 13:38:58 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Due to recent chances in my ISP infrastructure I don't have a mbone connection. The situation is being rectified and I expect to be back in the mbone in about a week. We need to add memory to a Cisco 2500 and then I should be all set. I am hoping that those who can afford to be in the mbone to jump in FreeBSD Lounge -- Global audio/video/text conferencing is a nice toy to be playing with 8) Have Fun, Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Apr 2 14:18:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA17459 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 14:18:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA17432 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 14:18:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rhh@ct.picker.com) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 17:17:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA26772; Thu, 2 Apr 98 17:17:21 EST Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA14915; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 17:17:03 -0500 Message-Id: <19980402171703.64175@ct.picker.com> Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 17:17:03 -0500 From: Randall Hopper To: Stephen Hocking-Senior Programmer PGS Tensor Perth , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Descent & libvgl Mail-Followup-To: Stephen Hocking-Senior Programmer PGS Tensor Perth , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG References: <199804010243.KAA19764@ariadne.tensor.pgs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: <199804010243.KAA19764@ariadne.tensor.pgs.com>; from Stephen Hocking-Senior Programmer PGS Tensor Perth on Wed, Apr 01, 1998 at 10:43:58AM +0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Stephen Hocking-Senior Programmer PGS Tensor Perth: | A long time ago, someone mentioned that they had tried to get the |descent code working with libvgl, but had problems getting the palette |out of the system. Could that person please come forward & tell me if |they had any success, what the state of their code is et cetera? | |I have X11 working, joystick support almost done and I also plan on |integrating the Linux sound code. This might be what you were looking for; the names of the folks talking about libvgl WRT Descent anyway. Randall Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 09:32:47 +0000 (GMT) From: Paulo Cesar Pereira de Andrade To: sos@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Kurt Olsen , doconnor@gsoft.com.au, mike@smith.net.au, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Descent Sources On Thu, 29 Jan 1998 sos@FreeBSD.ORG wrote: > In reply to Kurt Olsen who wrote: > > > > VGL needs a little adjustment to it's keyboard init function to > > really support games. In the raw and code modes the tty code in > > the kernel filters out all TABs, 'u's and a couple of others (at > > least I think it's the tty.) I have a few lines of code I put into > > doom to make it work under VGL. Let me know if you are interested. > > Could you be bit more specific on this ?? > I see problems with 'u' beeing delayed in another game, but I dont > think the kernel is to blame (could be wrong though as I havn't > investigated further). > If you have patches to doom, let me know, and we should make > a packages/port out of it.. > > Søren I have noticed a problem with TAB too, even using VGL_RAWKEYS the program never see a TAB (thought it was my code). It is in a quick hack on a Master System/Game Gear and a Game Boy emulator. I was choosing TAB as the 'reset button', but ended using BACKSPACE. Besides there is a version of these emulators in the ports (for X), in case somebody want a console (hacked) version, the url is: http://fiscodata-pr.netpar.com.br/~paulo -- Don't get suckered in by the comments -- they can be terribly misleading. Debug only code. -- Dave Storer To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Apr 2 18:27:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA29109 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 18:27:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from prairiecomm.prairiecommunications.com (mail.prairiecommunications.com [208.141.230.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA29103 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 18:27:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from alk@pobox.com) Received: from COMPOUND by prairiecomm.prairiecommunications.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.0.1457.7) id 2C73KR39; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 20:23:43 -0600 Received: (from alk@localhost) by pobox.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) id UAA00969; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 20:27:36 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 20:27:36 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199804030227.UAA00969@pobox.com> From: Tony Kimball MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Face: O9M"E%K;(f-Go/XDxL+pCxI5*gr[=FN@Y`cl1.Tn Reply-To: alk@pobox.com To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: rvplayer expired X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 20.3 "Vatican City" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The Linux 5.0b3 player expired and there is no more recent player. Is this the end of real video? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Apr 2 21:49:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA22817 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 21:49:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA22779 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 21:49:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id GAA27448; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 06:16:20 +0200 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199804030416.GAA27448@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: The FreeBSD lounge... To: gozer@ludd.luth.se (Johan Larsson) Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 06:16:20 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Johan Larsson" at Apr 2, 98 10:39:50 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Is this reasonable enough for you? :-) > > PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND > 7217 root 18 0 900K 876K pause 3:07 0.00% 0.00% java > > Of course if you write it in C it wan't take up this "much", but i think > it's quite ok for a java app. it seems that any command interpreter won't take less than 500KB these days so what should i say... any chance that using a real compiler to x86 code (rather than an interpreter or jit compiler) we get a better memory footprint for small programs ? > Btw, why aren't you hanging out on the lounge ;) I played some music the > other day, did it come thru ok (i saw that at least you luigi where > there). i saw the video, but the audio i was trying to listen to the ietf/infocom... cheers luigi -----------------------------+-------------------------------------- Luigi Rizzo | Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione email: luigi@iet.unipi.it | Universita' di Pisa tel: +39-50-568533 | via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) fax: +39-50-568522 | http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ _____________________________|______________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Apr 2 22:34:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA29038 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 22:34:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA29031 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 22:34:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA16223; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 22:34:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199804030634.WAA16223@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Luigi Rizzo cc: gozer@ludd.luth.se (Johan Larsson), multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The FreeBSD lounge... In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 03 Apr 1998 06:16:20 +0200." <199804030416.GAA27448@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 22:34:22 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org What is the system configuration that you have in mind using? Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Apr 2 23:48:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA13400 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 23:48:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gaia.coppe.ufrj.br (cisigw.coppe.ufrj.br [146.164.5.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA13395 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 23:48:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jonny@coppe.ufrj.br) Received: (from jonny@localhost) by gaia.coppe.ufrj.br (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA07722 for multimedia@freebsd.org; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 04:48:36 -0300 (EST) (envelope-from jonny) From: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis Message-Id: <199804030748.EAA07722@gaia.coppe.ufrj.br> Subject: GUS, pcm driver and Volume COntrol To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 04:48:36 -0300 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Am I crazy or my GUS PnP pcm device does not have a master volume control ? dogbert::root [550] cat /dev/sndstat FreeBSD Audio Driver (980215) Mar 18 1998 06:41:24 Installed devices: pcm0: at 0x220 irq 7 dma 1:5 pcm1: at 0x348 irq 5 dma 3:7 dogbert::root [551] mixer -f /dev/mixer0 Mixer vol is currently set to 90:90 Mixer bass is currently set to 75:75 Mixer treble is currently set to 75:75 Mixer synth is currently set to 75:75 Mixer pcm is currently set to 75:75 Mixer speaker is currently set to 75:75 Mixer line is currently set to 75:75 Mixer mic is currently set to 16:16 Mixer cd is currently set to 75:75 Mixer igain is currently set to 75:75 Mixer ogain is currently set to 75:75 dogbert::root [552] mixer -f /dev/mixer1 Mixer synth is currently set to 73:73 Mixer pcm is currently set to 72:72 Mixer speaker is currently set to 75:75 Mixer line is currently set to 32:32 Mixer mic is currently set to 64:64 Mixer cd is currently set to 39:39 Mixer mix is currently set to 0:0 Mixer igain is currently set to 34:34 Jonny -- Joao Carlos Mendes Luis jonny@gta.ufrj.br +55 21 290-4698 jonny@coppe.ufrj.br Universidade Federal do Rio de Janeiro UFRJ/COPPE/CISI PGP fingerprint: 29 C0 50 B9 B6 3E 58 F2 83 5F E3 26 BF 0F EA 67 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Apr 2 23:57:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA14949 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 23:57:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA14943 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 23:57:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from doconnor@cain.gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.8.8/8.6.9) with ESMTP id RAA15260; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 17:27:07 +0930 (CST) Message-Id: <199804030757.RAA15260@cain.gsoft.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: GUS, pcm driver and Volume COntrol In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 03 Apr 1998 04:48:36 -0300." <199804030748.EAA07722@gaia.coppe.ufrj.br> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 17:27:07 +0930 From: "Daniel O'Connor" Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Am I crazy or my GUS PnP pcm device does not have a master volume control ? You're crazy =) > dogbert::root [550] cat /dev/sndstat > FreeBSD Audio Driver (980215) Mar 18 1998 06:41:24 > Installed devices: > pcm0: at 0x220 irq 7 dma 1:5 > pcm1: at 0x348 irq 5 dma 3:7 > dogbert::root [551] mixer -f /dev/mixer0 > Mixer vol is currently set to 90:90 This is the master volume control... --------------------------------------------------------------------- |Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software | |http://www.gsoft.com.au | |The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to| |choose from. -- Andrew Tanenbaum | --------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Apr 3 00:09:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA16939 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 00:09:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA16933 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 00:09:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id IAA27639; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 08:36:31 +0200 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199804030636.IAA27639@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: GUS, pcm driver and Volume COntrol To: jonny@coppe.ufrj.br (Joao Carlos Mendes Luis) Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 08:36:31 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199804030748.EAA07722@gaia.coppe.ufrj.br> from "Joao Carlos Mendes Luis" at Apr 3, 98 04:48:17 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Hi, > > Am I crazy or my GUS PnP pcm device does not have a master volume control ? The driver does not support it. I have no idea if the GUS chipset has it or not. In any case I don't see much of a problem, since you still have independent controls on all channels... > dogbert::root [550] cat /dev/sndstat > FreeBSD Audio Driver (980215) Mar 18 1998 06:41:24 > Installed devices: > pcm0: at 0x220 irq 7 dma 1:5 > pcm1: at 0x348 irq 5 dma 3:7 For me it's a great satisfaction to see people using multiple audio cards on FreeBSD :) cheers luigi -----------------------------+-------------------------------------- Luigi Rizzo | Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione email: luigi@iet.unipi.it | Universita' di Pisa tel: +39-50-568533 | via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) fax: +39-50-568522 | http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ _____________________________|______________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Apr 3 00:28:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA20480 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 00:28:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gaia.coppe.ufrj.br (cisigw.coppe.ufrj.br [146.164.5.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA20475 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 00:28:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jonny@coppe.ufrj.br) Received: (from jonny@localhost) by gaia.coppe.ufrj.br (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA08361; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 05:27:49 -0300 (EST) (envelope-from jonny) From: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis Message-Id: <199804030827.FAA08361@gaia.coppe.ufrj.br> Subject: Re: GUS, pcm driver and Volume COntrol In-Reply-To: <199804030636.IAA27639@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> from Luigi Rizzo at "Apr 3, 98 08:36:31 am" To: luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it (Luigi Rizzo) Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 05:27:49 -0300 (EST) Cc: jonny@coppe.ufrj.br, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org #define quoting(Luigi Rizzo) // > // > Am I crazy or my GUS PnP pcm device does not have a master volume control ? // // The driver does not support it. I have no idea if the GUS chipset // has it or not. The windows driver has a volume control, and it does not seem to be a fake or emulated control. Your GUS support is just a kind of mss emulation, isn't it ? Does mss have master volume control ? // In any case I don't see much of a problem, since // you still have independent controls on all channels... Sometimes is not enough, and you will only know when it's to late. Right now I had multiple sound sources playing simultaneously and had a sudden need to lower all of then at once. Just then I noted that xmmix lacked that control. // > dogbert::root [550] cat /dev/sndstat // > FreeBSD Audio Driver (980215) Mar 18 1998 06:41:24 // > Installed devices: // > pcm0: at 0x220 irq 7 dma 1:5 // > pcm1: at 0x348 irq 5 dma 3:7 // // For me it's a great satisfaction to see people using multiple audio // cards on FreeBSD :) Yeah !!!! :) Sometimes I think I needed twice the number of Irq's and Drq's... Jonny -- Joao Carlos Mendes Luis jonny@gta.ufrj.br +55 21 290-4698 jonny@coppe.ufrj.br Universidade Federal do Rio de Janeiro UFRJ/COPPE/CISI PGP fingerprint: 29 C0 50 B9 B6 3E 58 F2 83 5F E3 26 BF 0F EA 67 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Apr 3 00:35:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA22322 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 00:35:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA22310 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 00:35:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id JAA27780; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 09:01:57 +0200 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199804030701.JAA27780@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: GUS, pcm driver and Volume COntrol To: jonny@coppe.ufrj.br (Joao Carlos Mendes Luis) Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 09:01:57 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: jonny@coppe.ufrj.br, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199804030827.FAA08361@gaia.coppe.ufrj.br> from "Joao Carlos Mendes Luis" at Apr 3, 98 05:27:30 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Your GUS support is just a kind of mss emulation, isn't it ? > Does mss have master volume control ? At least it is not in the same place on all chipsets, and as a general rule i did not implement it when the master volume is not located in the basic 32 MSS registers. > Sometimes is not enough, and you will only know when it's to late. > Right now I had multiple sound sources playing simultaneously and > had a sudden need to lower all of then at once. Just then I noted > that xmmix lacked that control. motivation is all we need to drive good programmers to extend the driver and support more features... cheers luigi -----------------------------+-------------------------------------- Luigi Rizzo | Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione email: luigi@iet.unipi.it | Universita' di Pisa tel: +39-50-568533 | via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) fax: +39-50-568522 | http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ _____________________________|______________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Apr 3 01:16:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA00871 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 01:16:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA00866 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 01:16:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA17711 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 01:16:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199804030916.BAA17711@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Java 3d engine 8) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 01:16:32 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org http://ban.joh.cam.ac.uk/~eben/index.htm I just find it interesting 8) Enjoy, Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Apr 3 06:25:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA10783 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 06:25:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from plains.NoDak.edu (tinguely@plains.NoDak.edu [134.129.111.64]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA10774 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 06:25:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tinguely@plains.NoDak.edu) Received: (from tinguely@localhost) by plains.NoDak.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA22692 for freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 08:25:09 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 08:25:09 -0600 (CST) From: Mark Tinguely Message-Id: <199804031425.IAA22692@plains.NoDak.edu> To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: PPM section in vic Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org does anyone know if vic is still being developed? I am interested in the PPM sections that are "ifdef notyet" in the decoder. (someone here wants to periodically update a web page from a vic session). --mark. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Apr 3 06:40:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA14041 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 06:40:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA14029 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 06:40:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id PAA28001; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 15:06:19 +0200 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199804031306.PAA28001@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: PPM section in vic To: tinguely@plains.NoDak.edu (Mark Tinguely) Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 15:06:19 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199804031425.IAA22692@plains.NoDak.edu> from "Mark Tinguely" at Apr 3, 98 08:24:50 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > does anyone know if vic is still being developed? as far as i know, new versions are available in the "mash" toolset for which source is not yet available. If there is any enhancement to the LBL version (I know for sure that there are versions of vat 4.0bX with X>7), this is not available in source format. > I am interested in the PPM sections that are "ifdef notyet" in the decoder. > (someone here wants to periodically update a web page from a vic session). I guess your only chance is to work on it yourself... On a related topic i have a set of diffs for vic to support the "x11" grabber, multiple meteor/brooktree grabber and (partly) the video controls (luma, contrast etc.) http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/vic/ these apply after the patches in the 2.2.6-RELEASE port of vic. cheers luigi -----------------------------+-------------------------------------- Luigi Rizzo | Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione email: luigi@iet.unipi.it | Universita' di Pisa tel: +39-50-568533 | via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) fax: +39-50-568522 | http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ _____________________________|______________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Apr 3 09:47:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA07896 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 09:47:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA07890 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 09:47:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id SAA28236; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 18:14:33 +0200 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199804031614.SAA28236@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: advice sought on new ioctl for frame grabber. To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 18:14:32 +0200 (MET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Looking at the IETF (nice) and INFOCOM (ugly) (*) video multicast these days, I was thinking of what could be a nice feature for the video grabber driver, and thought of one which could well be a very stupid idea... The idea is to add a 'freeze' ioctl which freezes the current frame in the video buffer, but otherwise maintains the same behaviour for the application (e.g. wake up every so often, send signals if so instructed). I'd have one usage for this -- namely, send a still image using vic without having to modify the program -- but rather by simply issueing the ioctl to the driver perhaps with an external program. The reason this is possibly a stupid idea is that a little tweaking with vic might possibly achieve the same result without having to modify the driver, and possibly with improved features (e.g. use better quantization when sending a still image). Opinions ? I will try to implement this either in the driver or in the application when I have made up my mind... cheers luigi (*) why do i think the INFOCOM transmission was ugly ? For the video they used a very rough quantizer (q=15) which coupled with a very bad location of the camera made slides almost impossible to read. I sent a mail asking for better quality of the video and they did try to improve things but probably the wrong way: the next day i saw a few minutes where they zoomed onto the screen, so text was finally readable, except that it was only half of the slide, so they had to move the camera back and forth across the screen.... Audio had similar problems in that they were sending short (probably 20ms) frames instead of the more effective DVI4 (80ms frames, 32KB/s) used for IETF transmissions. -----------------------------+-------------------------------------- Luigi Rizzo | Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione email: luigi@iet.unipi.it | Universita' di Pisa tel: +39-50-568533 | via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) fax: +39-50-568522 | http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ _____________________________|______________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Apr 3 10:35:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA16083 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 10:35:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from george.arc.nasa.gov (george.arc.nasa.gov [128.102.194.142]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA16076 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 10:35:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lamaster@george.arc.nasa.gov) Received: (from lamaster@localhost) by george.arc.nasa.gov (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA07782; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 10:34:28 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 10:34:27 -0800 (PST) From: Hugh LaMaster To: Luigi Rizzo cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: advice sought on new ioctl for frame grabber. In-Reply-To: <199804031614.SAA28236@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 3 Apr 1998, Luigi Rizzo wrote: > Looking at the IETF (nice) and INFOCOM (ugly) (*) video multicast > these days, I was thinking of what could be a nice feature for the : I guess you would want to modify both the driver and vic in order to achieve lower CPU usage and optimize bandwidth effectiveness. I assume that you are trying to send a sequence of stills most efficiently. You can sort of do that now, although not as explicitly and efficiently as I assume that you would like. > (*) why do i think the INFOCOM transmission was ugly ? For the : > Audio had similar problems in that they were sending short (probably > 20ms) frames instead of the more effective DVI4 (80ms frames, 32KB/s) used > for IETF transmissions. Agreed. Presentations/lectures work fine using /4, and they use less bandwidth. DVI/4 is probably the best compromise. I'm not sure why people seem to be reluctant to use /4 instead of /2, and the lower "quality" of DVI is offset by the lower bandwidth, permitting *higher* quality over ISDN. The combined difference (pcm2 -> dvi4) is 71Kb/s -> 36Kb/s. I suspect one of INFOCOM's problems was that INFOCOM was using ICAST Broadcaster V2.2 on either W95 or NT. In particular, when someone accidentally started to send significant back-traffic (another video), the audio quality declined dramatically, so the incoming traffic seemed to cause a problem. I don't know if the problem is the ICAST product, W95 or NT (I don't know which they used), or, if the PC they used wasn't fast enough. -- Hugh LaMaster, M/S 233-21, ASCII Email: hlamaster@mail.arc.nasa.gov NASA Ames Research Center Or: lamaster@george.arc.nasa.gov Moffett Field, CA 94035-1000 No Junkmail: USC 18 section 2701 Phone: 650/604-1056 Disclaimer: Unofficial, personal *opinion*. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Apr 3 11:54:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA06694 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 11:54:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA06622 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 11:54:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA19809; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 11:53:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199804031953.LAA19809@rah.star-gate.com> To: Hugh LaMaster cc: Luigi Rizzo , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, hasty@rah.star-gate.com Subject: Re: advice sought on new ioctl for frame grabber. In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 03 Apr 1998 10:34:27 PST." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <19806.891633235.1@rah.star-gate.com> Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 11:53:55 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org He can store and do whatever he wants with his images received from the driver no need to modified the driver . I do see a need to buffer up N images in the driver like the matrox meteor does. Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Apr 3 12:27:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA15435 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 12:27:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA15427 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 12:26:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id UAA28491; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 20:53:44 +0200 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199804031853.UAA28491@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: advice sought on new ioctl for frame grabber. To: hasty@rah.star-gate.com (Amancio Hasty) Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 20:53:44 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: lamaster@george.arc.nasa.gov, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, hasty@rah.star-gate.com In-Reply-To: <199804031953.LAA19809@rah.star-gate.com> from "Amancio Hasty" at Apr 3, 98 11:53:36 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > He can store and do whatever he wants with his images received from > the driver no need to modified the driver . right, probably this is the easiest way -- hoping that there will not be binary-only programs using the grabber (or perhaps we should hope the contrary -- an indication of the success of the driver; as a matter of fact, the mash version of vic is probably doing just this...) cheers luigi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Apr 3 12:29:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA15782 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 12:29:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from trinity.radio-do.de (trinity.Radio-do.de [193.101.164.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA15765 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 12:29:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fn@trinity.radio-do.de) Received: (from fn@localhost) by trinity.radio-do.de (8.8.8/8.8.5/RADIO-1.1) id WAA17092; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 22:28:41 +0200 (CEST) To: Amancio Hasty Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Patch to brooktree848.c From: Frank Nobis Date: 03 Apr 1998 22:28:41 +0200 Message-ID: Lines: 136 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.3/XEmacs 20.3 - "Vatican City" Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear Amancio, this is my patch to support the German Phillips PAL tuner and additional channels for german cable tv. I still need to override the tuner detection, otherwise a temic tuner would be selected. *** brooktree848.c.orig Sun Mar 1 07:06:20 1998 --- brooktree848.c Fri Apr 3 22:15:44 1998 *************** *** 226,231 **** --- 226,232 ---- #ifdef __FreeBSD__ #include "bktr.h" + #include "opt_bktr.h" #include "opt_devfs.h" #include "pci.h" #endif /* __FreeBSD__ */ *************** *** 559,564 **** --- 560,570 ---- #define PHILIPS_FR1236_NTSC_WADDR 0xc2 #define PHILIPS_FR1236_NTSC_RADDR 0xc3 + /* PLL on a the Philips FR1216MK2 tuner, + yes, the european version of the tuner is 1216 */ + #define PHILIPS_FR1216_PAL_WADDR 0xc2 + #define PHILIPS_FR1216_PAL_RADDR 0xc3 + /* guaranteed address for any TSA5522/3 (PLL on all(?) tuners) */ #define TSA552x_WADDR 0xc2 #define TSA552x_RADDR 0xc3 *************** *** 3616,3622 **** return( (bt848->i2c_data_ctl >> 8) & 0xff ); } - #if defined( I2C_SOFTWARE_PROBE ) /* --- 3622,3627 ---- *************** *** 3832,3837 **** --- 3837,3843 ---- #define TEMIC_PALI 7 #define PHILIPS_PALI 8 #define PHILIPS_FR1236_NTSC 9 + #define PHILIPS_FR1216_PAL 10 /* XXX FIXME: this list is incomplete */ *************** *** 3965,3970 **** --- 3971,3987 ---- 0x00}, { 0x00, 0x00 }, /* band-switch crosspoints */ { 0xa0, 0x90, 0x30,0x00 } }, /* the band-switch values */ + + /* PHILIPS_FR1216_PAL */ + { "Philips FR1216 PAL FM", /* the 'name' */ + TTYPE_PAL, /* input type */ + PHILIPS_FR1216_PAL_WADDR, /* PLL write address */ + { TSA552x_FCONTROL, /* control byte for PLL */ + TSA552x_FCONTROL, + TSA552x_FCONTROL, + TSA552x_RADIO }, + { 0x00, 0x00 }, /* band-switch crosspoints */ + { 0xa0, 0x90, 0x30, 0xa4 } }, /* the band-switch values */ }; *************** *** 4316,4327 **** * 97 28025 700 S18 * 98 28725 700 S19 * 99 29425 700 S20 * ! * 100 3890 000 IFFREQ * */ static int weurope[] = { ! 100, (int)( 38.90 * FREQFACTOR), 0, 90, (int)(231.25 * FREQFACTOR), (int)(7.00 * FREQFACTOR), 80, (int)(105.25 * FREQFACTOR), (int)(7.00 * FREQFACTOR), 74, (int)( 69.25 * FREQFACTOR), (int)(7.00 * FREQFACTOR), --- 4333,4371 ---- * 97 28025 700 S18 * 98 28725 700 S19 * 99 29425 700 S20 + * + * + * Channels S21 - S41 are taken from + * http://gemma.apple.com:80/dev/technotes/tn/tn1012.html + * + * 100 30325 800 S21 + * 101 31125 800 S22 + * 102 31925 800 S23 + * 103 32725 800 S24 + * 104 33525 800 S25 + * 105 34325 800 S26 + * 106 35125 800 S27 + * 107 35925 800 S28 + * 108 36725 800 S29 + * 109 37525 800 S30 + * 110 38325 800 S31 + * 111 39125 800 S32 + * 112 39925 800 S33 + * 113 40725 800 S34 + * 114 41525 800 S35 + * 115 42325 800 S36 + * 116 43125 800 S37 + * 117 43925 800 S38 + * 118 44725 800 S39 + * 119 45525 800 S40 + * 120 46325 800 S41 * ! * 121 3890 000 IFFREQ * */ static int weurope[] = { ! 121, (int)( 38.90 * FREQFACTOR), 0, ! 100, (int)(303.25 * FREQFACTOR), (int)(8.00 * FREQFACTOR), 90, (int)(231.25 * FREQFACTOR), (int)(7.00 * FREQFACTOR), 80, (int)(105.25 * FREQFACTOR), (int)(7.00 * FREQFACTOR), 74, (int)( 69.25 * FREQFACTOR), (int)(7.00 * FREQFACTOR), -- Frank Nobis Email: PGP AVAILABLE Landgrafenstr. 130 dg3dcn http://www.radio-do.de/~fn/ 44139 Dortmund Powered by FreeBSD To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Apr 3 14:32:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA19553 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 14:32:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mercury.Sun.COM (mercury.Sun.COM [192.9.25.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA19543 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 14:32:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Mailer-Daemon@East.Sun.COM) Received: from East.Sun.COM ([129.148.1.241]) by mercury.Sun.COM (SMI-8.6/mail.byaddr) with SMTP id OAA06451 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 14:31:56 -0800 Received: from suneast.East.Sun.COM by East.Sun.COM (SMI-8.6/SMI-5.3) id RAA00481; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 17:31:52 -0500 Received: from compound.east.sun.com by suneast.East.Sun.COM (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA15353; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 17:31:53 -0500 Received: (from alk@localhost) by compound.east.sun.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) id QAA08193; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 16:32:02 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 16:32:02 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199804032232.QAA08193@compound.east.sun.com> From: Tony Kimball MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Face: O9M"E%K;(f-Go/XDxL+pCxI5*gr[=FN@Y`cl1.Tn Reply-To: alk@pobox.com To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RealPlayer 5.0 X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 20.3 "Vatican City" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The Linux RealVideo 5.0b3 has expired and there is no more recent player available at real.com. Does anyone know the state of FreeBSD realvideo? Has it come to an end? (While reconfiguring mail software I sent a similar query, which may not have made it through -- I never saw it or any responses in any case -- so my apologies for any duplications.) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Apr 3 19:34:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA15160 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 19:34:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fang.cs.sunyit.edu (umji@fang.cs.sunyit.edu [192.52.220.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA15153 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 19:34:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from umji@fang.cs.sunyit.edu) Received: from localhost (umji@localhost) by fang.cs.sunyit.edu (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA00732 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 22:35:40 GMT Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 22:35:40 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael Imor To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Cool mp3 player Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Check out http://kewl.campus.luth.se/~wizball/jukebox/index.html for a cool mp3 player. Doesn't require any emulation and has a convenient interface. What more could you want? Mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Apr 3 21:18:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA27091 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 21:18:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from blackie.cruzers.com (cruzers.com [205.215.232.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA27059 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 21:18:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dkulp@board66.cruzers.com) Received: from board66.cruzers.com (board66.cruzers.com [205.215.233.66]) by blackie.cruzers.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA28136 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 21:19:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dkulp@localhost) by board66.cruzers.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) id VAA03587; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 21:18:40 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 21:18:40 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199804040518.VAA03587@board66.cruzers.com> From: David Kulp MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Hauppauge with FM supported? X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm on the verge of buying a video capture card with TV tuner. I see that Hauppauge has a card that includes an FM tuner (Model 452, like the 401 but with FM). This sounds attractive to me, a regular radio listener. Does anyone know how this works and whether fxtv or something else exists for controlling/listening/recording the FM audio? Also, are there any restrictions or recommendations on sound cards when using these video capture cards? Finally, are there performance pros and cons with different bt848 boards? Does my X server make a difference? And in general how good is the real-time display? (I have a TV tuner for an apple macintosh which has max display of 640x480 and it's refresh is almost as smooth as a normal TV.) Thanks a bunch! David Kulp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Apr 3 22:09:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA03318 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 22:09:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA03312 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 22:09:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA22457; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 22:06:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199804040606.WAA22457@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Frank Nobis cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Patch to brooktree848.c In-reply-to: Your message of "03 Apr 1998 22:28:41 +0200." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 22:06:31 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Will submit the patch this weekend along with a few minor bug fixes that I am supposed to submit. Tnks A Million! Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Apr 4 01:17:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA19955 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 01:17:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from login.dknet.dk (fj@login.dknet.dk [193.88.44.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA19950 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 01:17:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fj@login.dknet.dk) Received: (from fj@localhost) by login.dknet.dk (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA09313; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 11:16:55 +0200 (MET DST) From: Flemming Jacobsen Message-Id: <199804040916.LAA09313@login.dknet.dk> Subject: Re: Hauppauge with FM supported? To: dkulp@neomorphic.com (David Kulp) Date: Sat, 4 Apr 98 11:16:54 MET DST Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199804040518.VAA03587@board66.cruzers.com>; from "David Kulp" at Apr 3, 98 9:18 pm Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, > I'm on the verge of buying a video capture card with TV tuner. I see > that Hauppauge has a card that includes an FM tuner (Model 452, like > the 401 but with FM). This sounds attractive to me, a regular radio > listener. Does anyone know how this works and whether fxtv or > something else exists for controlling/listening/recording the FM > audio? I've added support for the Philips radio+TV tuners to the current bktr driver (I know that it works for the FM1216 tuner, which is what's on my Hauppauge card. I expect it to work on the other models too, but I've never gotten any feedback - but no news is good news). To control the radio tuner, I've made a small and simple application, that you can find at: ftp: login.dknet.dk/pub/fj/radio.tgz > Also, are there any restrictions or recommendations on sound > cards when using these video capture cards? As long as it has a line-in connector, it should work. Hyg' Flemming -- Flemming Jacobsen It'll probably say something like "Does not compute" or "Inoperative parameters". That's Email: fj@login.dknet.dk what it says when it doesn't know and doesn't Phone: +45 3916 1833 want to admit it. -- Terry Pratchett: Wings To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Apr 4 06:18:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA20387 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 06:18:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA20381 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 06:18:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id OAA29386; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 14:45:25 +0200 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199804041245.OAA29386@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: problems with signals on capture with bt848 driver To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sat, 4 Apr 1998 14:45:24 +0200 (MET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, i was trying today a program to make the bt848 driver send signals on each frame, using some old code that amancio sent me (very plain stuff -- just call METEORSSIGNAL etc.). I am using the driver from -stable on a 2.2.1 system, and the driver seems to work fine with vic, tv and fxtv (*), however none of these programs uses signals i believe. I can do some more tests but since mys etting is too different from most others, I would like to know if someone could send me the pointer to a known-working program which uses signals on the bt848 driver, and details on his configuration. In fact i am not sure if the problem is related with: - the use of the driver on 2.2.1 - the use of PAL - some hardware problem on my machine. As a matter of fact my hardware might not be perfect since in the past i had some missed interrupts (with a locally hacked version of the bt848 driver) and the status register of the bt848 revealed some PCI timeout etc, which at the time i "solved" by masking those errors. Now i am using the stock driver and i'd rather not return to my own code... thanks luigi (*) fxtv might use signals and in fact i have problems whenever i try to save an image, since the application appears not to proceed in that case. -----------------------------+-------------------------------------- Luigi Rizzo | Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione email: luigi@iet.unipi.it | Universita' di Pisa tel: +39-50-568533 | via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) fax: +39-50-568522 | http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ _____________________________|______________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Apr 4 12:16:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA04197 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 12:16:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pc-21490.bc.rogers.wave.ca (pc-21490.bc.rogers.wave.ca [24.113.51.240]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA04189 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 12:16:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jh@pc-21490.bc.rogers.wave.ca) Received: (from jh@localhost) by pc-21490.bc.rogers.wave.ca (8.8.8/8.8.7) id MAA02481; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 12:14:46 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.2 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199804040916.LAA09313@login.dknet.dk> Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 12:14:46 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: Jonathan Hanna Organization: Pangolin Systems From: Jonathan Hanna To: Flemming Jacobsen Subject: Re: Hauppauge with FM supported? Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, (David Kulp) Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 04-Apr-98 Flemming Jacobsen wrote: > Hi, > >> I'm on the verge of buying a video capture card with TV tuner. I see >> that Hauppauge has a card that includes an FM tuner (Model 452, like >> the 401 but with FM). This sounds attractive to me, a regular radio >> listener. Does anyone know how this works and whether fxtv or >> something else exists for controlling/listening/recording the FM >> audio? > > I've added support for the Philips radio+TV tuners to the > current bktr driver (I know that it works for the FM1216 tuner, > which is what's on my Hauppauge card. I expect it to work on > the other models too, but I've never gotten any feedback - but > no news is good news). I have not got it working yet on what I think is a Huappauge model 416, FR1236. I have not yet investigated enough to give real feedback. Jonathan Hanna To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Apr 4 13:25:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA11240 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 13:25:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA11220 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 13:25:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA29768; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 13:25:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199804042125.NAA29768@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Luigi Rizzo cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: problems with signals on capture with bt848 driver In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 04 Apr 1998 14:45:24 +0200." <199804041245.OAA29386@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed ; boundary="==_Exmh_10769161940" Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 13:25:15 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multipart MIME message. --==_Exmh_10769161940 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Try this small program. It uses signals to determine when to write a frame to disk. 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"unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Apr 4 14:36:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA18687 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 14:36:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA18651 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 14:36:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id XAA29711; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 23:03:38 +0200 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199804042103.XAA29711@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: problems with signals on capture with bt848 driver To: hasty@rah.star-gate.com (Amancio Hasty) Date: Sat, 4 Apr 1998 23:03:38 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199804042125.NAA29768@rah.star-gate.com> from "Amancio Hasty" at Apr 4, 98 01:24:56 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Try this small program. It uses signals to determine when to write > a frame to disk. thanks, but it's almost the same one you sent me some time ago, and unfortunately it does not work here. If it works for you, then I suspect i have hw problems, will try on a different machine next week. BTW why do you specify two formats: geo.oformat = METEOR_GEO_YUV_422 | METEOR_GEO_YUV_12 (not that i think it has anything to do with my problem...) cheers luigi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Apr 4 15:32:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA22678 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 15:32:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from unox.student.tue.nl (unox.student.tue.nl [131.155.210.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA22621 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 15:32:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marijn@stack.nl) Received: (from marijn@localhost) by unox.student.tue.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA10146; Sun, 5 Apr 1998 01:32:11 +0200 Message-ID: <19980405013211.46733@unox.student.tue.nl> Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 01:32:11 +0200 From: Marijn Meijles To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: hauppauge tv card Reply-To: marijn@stack.nl Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, what's the current status of the hauppauge driver? Do you have a working beta or is it just an idea? -- Marijn --- There is a chance that today is the first of May To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Apr 4 15:35:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA22971 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 15:35:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA22965 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 15:35:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA00958; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 15:35:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199804042335.PAA00958@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: marijn@stack.nl cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: hauppauge tv card In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 05 Apr 1998 01:32:11 +0200." <19980405013211.46733@unox.student.tue.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 15:35:29 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org For which OS? Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message