From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun May 31 13:40:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA16651 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 31 May 1998 13:40:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from router.fordys.net (exim@router.fordys.net [194.217.125.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA16604 for ; Sun, 31 May 1998 13:40:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from adam@fordys.net) Received: from adam by router.fordys.net with local (Exim 1.90 #3) for multimedia@freebsd.org id 0ygEtt-00008p-00; Sun, 31 May 1998 21:40:17 +0100 Message-ID: <19980531214017.A469@fordys.net> Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 21:40:17 +0100 From: Adam Ford To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: CD ROM Audio, wcd0? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91i Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hiya, I've been having a real prob getting all this going, but thanks to all the past info posted to the questions mailing list etc, I've been able to search it, and all the information I need [thanks!] - to set up a Sound Blaster AWE64 Sound Card, and An IDE ATAPI CDROM drive.. Its a 32 Speed "LG electronics" the heafty manual says :) It works perfect when I mount it, and use data CD's, copying files from it works fine. But, playing audio CD's fail :( Using the 'cdcontrol' program, running it by typing cdcontrol -f /dev/wcd0a [tried wcd0c/wcd1a/wcd1c too, and made the devices]. I try and type play 01 This gives back : cdcontrol: Input/output error But, the strange thing is, that if I press play on the front of the CD ROM drive, it plays fine, and will go through all tracks, playing happily, and relaying the sound through the Sound Card. The relevant dmesg output looks strange to me, but then, I know nothing, so I'm probably wrong :) --- wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 flags 0x80ff80ff on isa wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): , 32-bit, multi-block-16 wd0: 1536MB (3145968 sectors), 3121 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc0: unit 1 (wd1): , 32-bit, multi-block-16 wd1: 4125MB (8448300 sectors), 8940 cyls, 15 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa wdc1: unit 0 (atapi): , removable, accel, dma, iordis npx0 flags 0x1 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface IP packet filtering initialized, divert disabled, unlimited logging --- On the other machines I've looked at [a friend mailed me his debug output, 2 of them in fact :) ] - below where it said wdc1, and gave the info about the cdrom drive, it gave back some jargon about "Tray empty, Unlocked" etc.. - there were more examples of this on the previous posts to -questions [found by searching www.uk.freebsd.org, where I've been searching most of the day on and off :) ] Mine doesn't say anything like that.. in fact, there's no report from wcd0 at all :( - I even tried adding device wcd1 to the kernel too, but this too failed. After reading exact wording on a page I read on www.freebsd.org, I shuffled all my drives round, so that the 2 hard discs I have are both on the primary IDE interface [wcd0], since it said something along the lines of "the secondary interface is used for drives 3 and for, or an IDE CDROM drive.... I thought maybe for some reason [I was getting stuck for ideas :) ] the CDROM should be on the last IDE interface. The CDROM is on the controller on its own [single IDE cable], set as Primary... it did have a hard disc with it, but as I said, I moved the other drive to the other controller, and played with /etc/fstab appropriately... but now I'm back to square one again! Cdcontrol wont' work!! Boo hoo! - neither the other version of it, cdplay, or one of the xwindows programs, that just skips through all the tracks treally fast, liek they aren't there, then stops! :( I tried booting up with kernel.GENERIC too, that gave the same dmesg output for the CDROM drive... if thats at all interesting.. I do have the following important bits in my kernel config file, I would put a full copy, but I think maybe I wrote too much already, I tend to get typie-happy when I start :) controller wdc1 at isa? port "IO_WD2" bio irq 15 vector wdintr #controller wdc1 at isa? port "IO_WD2" bio irq 15 flags 0x80ff80ff vector wdintr disk wd2 at wdc1 drive 0 disk wd3 at wdc1 drive 1 options ATAPI options ATAPI_STAT|C device wcd0 Note that I've tried both versions of the controller line, both fail [32bit, one not], I've tried with disk support, and without, tried with a wcd1 device too, and tried with ATAPI_STATIC, which didnt' go too well :) Ummmm, any more ideas? I'm all out, and I've run out of hair now!! ;) Any ideas greatly appreciated, I've just subscribed to this list, so hopefully I'll get the reply :) Thanks tons, -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Adam Ford, adam@fordys.demon.co.uk | You can make it foolproof, but... http://www.fordys.net | you can't make it darn fool proof. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun May 31 18:51:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA05414 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 31 May 1998 18:51:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA05395 for ; Sun, 31 May 1998 18:51:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from doconnor@cain.gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.8.8/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA07116; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 11:21:20 +0930 (CST) Message-Id: <199806010151.LAA07116@cain.gsoft.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Danny Dulai cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fastvid: no speed increase :( In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 30 May 1998 17:35:28 EST." <19980530173528.55676@bleep.ishiboo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 11:21:20 +0930 From: "Daniel O'Connor" Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I used this code, set the VIDPHYSADDR to 0xe1800000 and VIDPHYSSIZE to > 0x800000, and MSRINDEX is set to 5 (??) and experienced NO speed increase > at all when using xengine. > > this is my X server output: > > PCI (#1/1, 8000000c) > MATROX,28: 2064W,TVP3026 (8192k @e1800000) > MATROX,28: 2164WA,TVP3026 (4096k @e3000000) Hmm.. this looks odd, any idea why there is a 4mB and an 8Mb chunk? > Any ideas? Might Xinside already be setting this for me and I'm already getti > as fast as it gets? That could be it.. --------------------------------------------------------------------- |Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software | |http://www.gsoft.com.au | |The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to| |choose from. -- Andrew Tanenbaum | --------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun May 31 19:53:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA13344 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 31 May 1998 19:53:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bleep.ishiboo.com (user18573@bleep.ishiboo.com [199.79.133.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA13338 for ; Sun, 31 May 1998 19:53:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nirva@ishiboo.com) Received: (qmail 24986 invoked by uid 1000); 1 Jun 1998 03:56:17 -0000 Message-ID: <19980531225616.15589@bleep.ishiboo.com> Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 22:56:16 -0500 From: Danny Dulai To: "Daniel O'Connor" Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fastvid: no speed increase :( References: <19980530173528.55676@bleep.ishiboo.com> <199806010151.LAA07116@cain.gsoft.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88 In-Reply-To: <199806010151.LAA07116@cain.gsoft.com.au>; from Daniel O'Connor on Mon, Jun 01, 1998 at 11:21:20AM +0930 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Quoting Daniel O'Connor (doconnor@gsoft.com.au): > > > I used this code, set the VIDPHYSADDR to 0xe1800000 and VIDPHYSSIZE to > > 0x800000, and MSRINDEX is set to 5 (??) and experienced NO speed increase > > at all when using xengine. > > > > this is my X server output: > > > > PCI (#1/1, 8000000c) > > MATROX,28: 2064W,TVP3026 (8192k @e1800000) > > MATROX,28: 2164WA,TVP3026 (4096k @e3000000) > Hmm.. this looks odd, any idea why there is a 4mB and an 8Mb chunk? primary card is 8 meg matrox, second card is 4 meg matrox.. this is a dual headed server. > > Any ideas? Might Xinside already be setting this for me and I'm already getti > > as fast as it gets? > That could be it.. Yah, I've gotten a number of replies now saying that its already been done by my bios. -- ___________________________________________________________________________ Danny Dulai Feet. Pumice. Lotion. http://www.ishiboo.com/~nirva/ nirva@ishiboo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun May 31 21:08:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA23231 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 31 May 1998 21:08:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA23199 for ; Sun, 31 May 1998 21:08:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id EAA01886; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 04:28:45 +0200 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199806010228.EAA01886@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: jdk speed ? To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 04:28:45 +0200 (MET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org (not sure if this is the right forum...) on a Pentium133 running 2.2.6, i tried to run some applet from the jdk115 distribution with the jdk's appletviewer, and got very high CPU usage (around 20-30% for some trivial and slow graphics etc.). The same applets run under netscape give a CPU usage of ~5% . The question: is the java VM in jdk1.1.5 so bad, or i did something wrong ? cheers luigi -----------------------------+-------------------------------------- Luigi Rizzo | Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione email: luigi@iet.unipi.it | Universita' di Pisa tel: +39-50-568533 | via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) fax: +39-50-568522 | http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ _____________________________|______________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun May 31 21:56:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA29639 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 31 May 1998 21:56:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA29634 for ; Sun, 31 May 1998 21:56:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA25971; Sun, 31 May 1998 21:56:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199806010456.VAA25971@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Luigi Rizzo cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: jdk speed ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 01 Jun 1998 04:28:45 +0200." <199806010228.EAA01886@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 21:56:40 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The right mailing lists for such postings is java@FreeBSD.ORG. Is just that all the jdkers hang out over there. Cheers, Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Jun 1 04:21:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA18054 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 04:21:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from tyree.iii.co.uk (tyree.iii.co.uk [195.89.149.230]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA18045 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 04:21:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@iii.co.uk) From: nik@iii.co.uk Received: from carrig.strand.iii.co.uk (carrig.strand.iii.co.uk [192.168.7.25]) by tyree.iii.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA15350 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 12:21:10 +0100 (BST) Received: (from nik@localhost) by carrig.strand.iii.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.7) id MAA21846; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 12:20:24 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <19980601122024.25677@iii.co.uk> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 12:20:24 +0100 To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Soundcard recommendations Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e Organization: interactive investor Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org How do, I'm shortly going to have some money to burn, and I'm looking at getting a soundcard. What would people recommend? I plan on using it mostly as part of my home answerphone setup (courtesy Amancio's page), but I'll also be putting my CD Audio (and BT848 TV card) output through it. I'll probably be paying some MPEG3 files through it as well. And it might serve double duty under Win95/NT (should I decide that the games make it worthwhile). Suggestions gratefully received. N -- *DON'T DO THIS*. It is *BAD* engineering. *BAD* engineers *DESERVE* to be unemployed, living under park benches, and feeding off of slow moving pigeons -- Terry Lambert, in comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Jun 1 07:24:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA14345 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 07:24:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA14158 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 07:22:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id OAA03031; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 14:38:32 +0200 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199806011238.OAA03031@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: Soundcard recommendations To: nik@iii.co.uk Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 14:38:32 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19980601122024.25677@iii.co.uk> from "nik@iii.co.uk" at Jun 1, 98 12:20:05 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > How do, > > I'm shortly going to have some money to burn, and I'm looking at getting a > soundcard. > > What would people recommend? I plan on using it mostly as part of my home > answerphone setup (courtesy Amancio's page), but I'll also be putting my > CD Audio (and BT848 TV card) output through it. my personal suggestion is for cards based on the CS4237 (e.g. A/Open AW35) or Yamaha OPL/SAx chipsets. Both are reasonably cheap and work very well with the "pcm" driver in full duplex. If you are really unable to find them, cards using the OPTI931 can do the job (lower quality, lower price). I'd avoid ESS and CreativeLabs (SB16 etc.) stuff: the former are not well supported by freebsd driver although there is documentation around. The latter are more expensive than anything else, have a very bad internal architecture and no (decent) documentation available. cheers luigi -----------------------------+-------------------------------------- Luigi Rizzo | Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione email: luigi@iet.unipi.it | Universita' di Pisa tel: +39-50-568533 | via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) fax: +39-50-568522 | http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ _____________________________|______________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Jun 1 11:06:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA26213 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 11:06:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA26136; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 11:06:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id SAA03509; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 18:26:49 +0200 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199806011626.SAA03509@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: audio from atapi cd -- patches for 2.2.6 To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 18:26:49 +0200 (MET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have ported to 2.2.6 the patches for reading audio tracks from atapi cdrom, and finally found the time to patch "cdd" (a very nice grabbing program from Charles Henrich) to work with them. If you want to test things, everything is at http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/cdda/ the version of cdd you find there is still a bit rough, hopefully it will be fixed soon. cheers luigi P.S. now if some good soul wants to put the kernel part into -stable... It is no worse than the rest of ATAPI CDROM support and has close to zero interaction with the rest of the system. In the meantime i am looking at the simplest way to implement timeout handling for atapi peripherals... -----------------------------+-------------------------------------- Luigi Rizzo | Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione email: luigi@iet.unipi.it | Universita' di Pisa tel: +39-50-568533 | via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) fax: +39-50-568522 | http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ _____________________________|______________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Jun 1 13:44:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA29176 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 13:44:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA29155 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 13:43:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA01003; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 12:38:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199806011938.MAA01003@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Luigi Rizzo cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: audio from atapi cd -- patches for 2.2.6 In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 01 Jun 1998 18:26:49 +0200." <199806011626.SAA03509@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 12:38:38 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I have ported to 2.2.6 the patches for reading audio tracks from > atapi cdrom, and finally found the time to patch "cdd" (a very nice > grabbing program from Charles Henrich) to work with them. This wouldn't happen to use the internet CD database to name your tracks for you now would it? -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Jun 1 15:05:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA19642 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 15:05:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from obie.softweyr.com ([204.68.178.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA19612 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 15:05:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wes@obie.softweyr.com) Received: (from wes@localhost) by obie.softweyr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA25879; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 16:05:11 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wes) From: Wes Peters Message-Id: <199806012205.QAA25879@obie.softweyr.com> Subject: Re: Soundcard recommendations In-Reply-To: <199806011238.OAA03031@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> from Luigi Rizzo at "Jun 1, 98 02:38:32 pm" To: luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it (Luigi Rizzo) Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 16:05:11 -0600 (MDT) Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Luigi Rizzo recently opined: > my personal suggestion is for cards based on the CS4237 (e.g. A/Open > AW35) or Yamaha OPL/SAx chipsets. Both are reasonably cheap and work > very well with the "pcm" driver in full duplex. If you are really > unable to find them, cards using the OPTI931 can do the job (lower > quality, lower price). For those who are interested, my local wholesaler has the Genius ISA soundcard based on the OPL-3D for $13 wholesale. I've got a couple of these, and will be attempting to dulicate the answering machine using one of these cards in the next few weeks. Let me know if you're interested, and I will report my results in the multimedia list. -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters Softweyr LLC http://www.softweyr.com/~softweyr wes@softweyr.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Jun 1 16:24:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA06714 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 16:24:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA06587; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 16:23:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ct.picker.com) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 19:23:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA06079; Mon, 1 Jun 98 19:23:08 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id TAA25490; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 19:22:20 -0400 Message-Id: <19980601192220.A25402@ct.picker.com> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 19:22:20 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Fxtv 0.47 released Mail-Followup-To: multimedia@freebsd.org, hackers@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The features & fixes list was piling up so I thought it'd be a good time to cut a new version. Available here: http://multiverse.com/~rhh/fxtv/ Brief summary of changes (see ChangeLog for details): : YUV video capture : X10 MouseRemote support (www.x10.com) : MPEG-encode streaming (IYUV & PPM) : Multi-Bt848 card support : Multi-/no-soundcard support, and TV audio on CD-IN : Can now get at internal audio mux from GUI : Support clean build on non-XFree86 and Linux systems : New Action Rtns: TVToggleFreeze, TVVideoRecordStart/Stop : Video conversion process externalized (user-defined script) : Grab mouse when entering Zoom full-screen mode : More verbose "-debug startup" output : Misc. Fixes (XImage conv, TIFF saves, remote display, X ext detection, etc.) By default, it builds for XFree86. To build on Xi/etc., grab the source package and do: "gmake HAVE_XFREE86=NO" You might also check out the "Sentinel.mps" sample off the web page. I captured it using IYUV last night, on stock IBM/WD EIDE drives no less :-) A note on video encoding. mpeg_encode(1) works fine for IYUV @ 320x240, but it doesn't like the IYUV video stream length for many other resolutions so I left RGB/PPM the default capture path. For other resolutions, try RGB/PPM, but by all means use IYUV/YUV for 320x240. It gives you 25% more disk bandwidth to play with. (Also, if you dig into this and figure out what mpeg_encode's so upset about please let me know.) Enjoy! Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Jun 1 16:43:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA11420 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 16:43:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA11363; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 16:42:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ct.picker.com) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 19:42:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA06464; Mon, 1 Jun 98 19:42:19 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id TAA25549; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 19:41:16 -0400 Message-Id: <19980601194116.A25497@ct.picker.com> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 19:41:16 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: X-10 Mouse Remote patch Mail-Followup-To: multimedia@freebsd.org, hackers@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Here's a kernel/moused(8) patch to -current that adds "X-10 Mouse Remote" support to moused: http://multiverse.com/~rhh/moused.x10remote.patch.gz (it's also enclosed in the Fxtv-0.47 source package). See: http://www.x10.com/products/x10_mk19a.htm for details on this product. The patch supports using the X10 Mouse Remote in both stand-alone and pass-through configurations, so you can plug your mouse and remote into the same serial port, use the mouse for X, and use the remote for other apps like Fxtv. The mouse events are channeled through the syscons/sysmouse I/F like normal, and the remote buttons are "syphoned off" to a UNIX-domain stream socket (defined as _PATH_MOUSEREMOTE in ) for a remote-aware app to grab and use. Hope you find this useful. Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Jun 1 17:09:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA17438 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 17:09:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA17396 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 17:09:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ct.picker.com) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 20:08:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA06980; Mon, 1 Jun 98 20:08:05 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id UAA25669; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 20:07:11 -0400 Message-Id: <19980601200711.A25605@ct.picker.com> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 20:07:11 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: nik@iii.co.uk, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, Luigi Rizzo Subject: Re: Soundcard recommendations Mail-Followup-To: nik@iii.co.uk, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, Luigi Rizzo References: <19980601122024.25677@iii.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <19980601122024.25677@iii.co.uk>; from nik@iii.co.uk on Mon, Jun 01, 1998 at 12:20:24PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org nik@iii.co.uk: |I'm shortly going to have some money to burn, and I'm looking at getting a |soundcard. | |What would people recommend? I plan on using it mostly as part of my home |answerphone setup (courtesy Amancio's page), but I'll also be putting my |CD Audio (and BT848 TV card) output through it. | |I'll probably be paying some MPEG3 files through it as well. And it might |serve double duty under Win95/NT (should I decide that the games make it |worthwhile). ... Luigi Rizzo: |I'd avoid ESS and CreativeLabs (SB16 etc.) stuff: the former are |not well supported by freebsd driver although there is documentation |around. The latter are more expensive than anything else, have a |very bad internal architecture and no (decent) documentation |available. Sounds like for you, like me, MSW95 support is still somewhat important, and for the same single reason too--games! (Only reason I ever boot over :-) One thing you can say for the CreativeLabs stuff is they have solid MSW95 drivers because they're very popular cards. I've been satisified with my SB32 non-PnP (SB16-compat) in MSW95 & FreeBSD. Captures great CD-quality audio, and the wavetable synth is cool for MIDIs in FreeBSD & awesome for games in MSW95. Good card (for my soundcard usage). Having said that (and as Luigi alluded to) one reason to consider non-Creative cards is they aren't built for video-/audio-conferencing applications. Full-duplex (simultaneous record/play) is a hack on these cards, pure and simple, and according to Luigi and others that're up on the details, their clocks aren't very good. So if video/audio-conf is a big deal to you, that's certainly something to consider. If it's not, hey, grab an inexpensive SB16 card at a computerfest where they can be had dirt cheap. Be sure to get one with a Vibra16 chipset on it (it's the quieter one; the original SB16 chipset is a little noisy for PCM record). At the stores, there may be cheaper off-brand cards available with solid MSW95 drivers, but I'm not up on that. You'll have to research and check back with Luigi regarding FreeBSD support. Good luck on your search! Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Jun 1 21:31:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA06065 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 21:31:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA06052 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 1998 21:31:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id EAA04408; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 04:52:14 +0200 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199806020252.EAA04408@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: audio from atapi cd -- patches for 2.2.6 To: mike@smith.net.au (Mike Smith) Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 04:52:14 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199806011938.MAA01003@dingo.cdrom.com> from "Mike Smith" at Jun 1, 98 12:38:19 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > I have ported to 2.2.6 the patches for reading audio tracks from > > atapi cdrom, and finally found the time to patch "cdd" (a very nice > > grabbing program from Charles Henrich) to work with them. > > This wouldn't happen to use the internet CD database to name your > tracks for you now would it? Charles said so, I have no idea on how it works. I guess I have to store the id (UPC ?) of the cdrom somewhere, something that i haven't done yet but know it is possible at least on some drives. cheers luigi -----------------------------+-------------------------------------- Luigi Rizzo | Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione email: luigi@iet.unipi.it | Universita' di Pisa tel: +39-50-568533 | via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) fax: +39-50-568522 | http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ _____________________________|______________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jun 2 06:38:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA24972 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 06:38:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA24956 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 06:38:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ct.picker.com) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 9:38:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA23161; Tue, 2 Jun 98 09:37:58 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id HAA01883; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 07:02:16 -0400 Message-Id: <19980602070216.A1855@ct.picker.com> Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 07:02:16 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Fxtv 0.47 patch Mail-Followup-To: multimedia@freebsd.org References: <19980601192220.A25402@ct.picker.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <19980601192220.A25402@ct.picker.com>; from Randall Hopper on Mon, Jun 01, 1998 at 07:22:20PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org | http://multiverse.com/~rhh/fxtv/ I goofed and only tested compilation on a kernel that had the X-10 patch applied. Thanks to Roger Hardiman for reporting this. If you fetched fxtv source before 7am EST 6/2, attached is a patch to apply to your source so it will build. If you haven't fetched it yet, just pull from the web page. I updated the source package to contain the fix. To build the port you'll need to do "make makesum install" instead of "make install" for now. I'll regenerate the MD5 file later when I'm at my FreeBSD box so the "makesum" isn't necessary. Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jun 2 06:40:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA25345 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 06:40:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA25329 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 06:40:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ct.picker.com) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 9:38:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA23179; Tue, 2 Jun 98 09:38:04 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id HAA01906; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 07:03:22 -0400 Message-Id: <19980602070322.A1885@ct.picker.com> Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 07:03:22 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fxtv 0.47 patch Mail-Followup-To: multimedia@freebsd.org References: <19980601192220.A25402@ct.picker.com> <19980602070216.A1855@ct.picker.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=oyUTqETQ0mS9luUI X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <19980602070216.A1855@ct.picker.com>; from Randall Hopper on Tue, Jun 02, 1998 at 07:02:16AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --oyUTqETQ0mS9luUI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii |If you fetched fxtv source before 7am EST 6/2, attached is a patch to apply |to your source so it will build. Oh, did I say it was attached? :-) Here it is. Randall --oyUTqETQ0mS9luUI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="fxtv-0.47-remote.patch" --- ../fxtv-0.47/remote.c Sun May 31 13:08:37 1998 +++ remote.c Tue Jun 2 06:39:47 1998 @@ -600,11 +600,11 @@ #ifdef OLD_DEV_SYSMOUSE_STUFF /* Open device */ - fd = Remote_fd = open( rem_dev, O_RDWR | O_NONBLOCK, 0 ); + fd = Remote_fd = open( "/dev/sysmouse", O_RDWR | O_NONBLOCK, 0 ); if ( Remote_fd < 0 ) { fprintf( stderr, "Can't open mouse remote device for read/write: " "\"%s\"\n" - "Continuing without remote.\n", rem_dev); + "Continuing without remote.\n", "/dev/sysmouse"); return; } --oyUTqETQ0mS9luUI-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jun 2 07:49:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA07493 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 07:49:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA07480 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 07:49:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ct.picker.com) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 10:48:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA26023; Tue, 2 Jun 98 10:48:31 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA02905; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 10:47:41 -0400 Message-Id: <19980602104740.B2867@ct.picker.com> Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 10:47:40 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Roger Hardiman Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fxtv 0.47 released Mail-Followup-To: Roger Hardiman , multimedia@freebsd.org References: <19980601192220.A25402@ct.picker.com> <3573E999.3F54@cs.strath.ac.uk> <19980602080731.A2142@ct.picker.com> <35740E7D.7DE1@cs.strath.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <35740E7D.7DE1@cs.strath.ac.uk>; from Roger Hardiman on Tue, Jun 02, 1998 at 03:38:53PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org |Well, the tiff header is funny. I did a rebuild of tiff34 from the |ports directory. | |fxtv wants to #include tiffio34.h but tiff34 port only gave me the |file /usr/local/include/tiff34/tiffio.h (ie not tiffio34.h) | |Not tried the proprt port build yet. Any ideas? No. Could be somebody's just updated the tiff34 port recently. The tiff34 pkg I have has a tiffio34.h, but it's been a few months since I installed it. I'll try a new tiff34 pkg tonight. For now, just change the #include reference. Sure wish those guys would quit hacking version numbers in and out of header filenames and include paths. This header hacking is a pain. Thanks for the build reports, and let me know how running it goes :-) Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jun 2 09:39:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA26977 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 09:39:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (root@fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk [130.159.196.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA26954 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 09:39:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roger@cs.strath.ac.uk) Received: from muir-10 (roger@muir-10.cs.strath.ac.uk [130.159.148.10]) by fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA01366 Tue, 2 Jun 1998 17:39:33 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <35742AC4.2781@cs.strath.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 17:39:32 +0100 From: Roger Hardiman Organization: University of Strathclyde X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; OSF1 V3.2 alpha) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Amancio Hasty CC: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cannot open /dev/bktr with pthreads C library References: <199805031534.IAA28011@rah.star-gate.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi I have some code which opens the Bt848 device and grabs frames. I recompiled my code with "gcc -lc_r" to use the threaded libc. The plan was to add some Posix Threads later. Well, when compiled with -lc_r, calling open() to open /dev/bktr fails and returns errno of 25 errno.h says this is NOTTY /* Inappropriate ioctl for device */ Any ideas? Thanks Roger -- Roger Hardiman, | Department of Computer Science, PhD Research Student, | University of Strathclyde, roger@cs.strath.ac.uk | Glasgow, Scotland, UK http://www.cs.strath.ac.uk/~roger To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jun 2 09:50:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA28068 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 09:50:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from antipodes.cdrom.com (castles327.castles.com [208.214.167.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA28017 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 09:50:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@antipodes.cdrom.com) Received: from antipodes.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by antipodes.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA00545; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 08:34:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199806021534.IAA00545@antipodes.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Luigi Rizzo cc: mike@smith.net.au (Mike Smith), multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: audio from atapi cd -- patches for 2.2.6 In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 02 Jun 1998 04:52:14 +0200." <199806020252.EAA04408@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 08:34:10 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > > I have ported to 2.2.6 the patches for reading audio tracks from > > > atapi cdrom, and finally found the time to patch "cdd" (a very nice > > > grabbing program from Charles Henrich) to work with them. > > > > This wouldn't happen to use the internet CD database to name your > > tracks for you now would it? > > Charles said so, I have no idea on how it works. I guess I have to > store the id (UPC ?) of the cdrom somewhere, something that i haven't > done yet but know it is possible at least on some drives. No, the CD database doesn't do that (you can't always get at that data); it uses a hash of the disc and track lengths ("biometric" data). If it actually does this (I was kidding, actually), then I am an instant convert. 8) -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jun 2 10:30:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA04753 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 10:30:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bootp.sls.usu.edu (bootp.sls.usu.edu [129.123.15.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA04672 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 10:30:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kurto@bootp.sls.usu.edu) Received: (from kurto@localhost) by bootp.sls.usu.edu (8.8.2/8.8.2) id LAA13538 for freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 11:30:07 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 11:30:07 -0600 (MDT) From: Kurt Olsen Message-Id: <199806021730.LAA13538@bootp.sls.usu.edu> To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Voodoo graphics Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi everyone, I just subscribed to the mm list so I hope that I'm not bringing up something everybody already is tired of. Currently I am in contact with 3dfx about arranging a port of the Glide library to FreeBSD. It's going really well and I am conservatively estimating that I'll have the Glide sources by the end of next week and depending on how machine specific they are, have a port available later this summer (July-ish.) However they do want to know what kind of demand there is for such a port. So if you want Glide and Voodoo support, send me your ideas about what you would do (app wise) and if you would use it. Thanks, Kurt Olsen kurto@bootp.sls.usu.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jun 2 11:16:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA13247 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 11:16:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from home.dragondata.com (toasty@home.dragondata.com [204.137.237.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA13230 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 11:16:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from toasty@home.dragondata.com) Received: (from toasty@localhost) by home.dragondata.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) id NAA02840; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 13:16:51 -0500 (CDT) From: Kevin Day Message-Id: <199806021816.NAA02840@home.dragondata.com> Subject: Re: Voodoo graphics In-Reply-To: <199806021730.LAA13538@bootp.sls.usu.edu> from Kurt Olsen at "Jun 2, 98 11:30:07 am" To: kurto@bootp.sls.usu.edu (Kurt Olsen) Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 13:16:50 -0500 (CDT) Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Hi everyone, I just subscribed to the mm list so I hope that I'm not > bringing up something everybody already is tired of. > > Currently I am in contact with 3dfx about arranging a port of the Glide > library to FreeBSD. It's going really well and I am conservatively > estimating that I'll have the Glide sources by the end of next week and > depending on how machine specific they are, have a port available later > this summer (July-ish.) > > However they do want to know what kind of demand there is for such a port. > So if you want Glide and Voodoo support, send me your ideas about what > you would do (app wise) and if you would use it. > I've already got a license from 3Dfx about doing a glide port to freebsd, and should be starting on it this week. I just got the sources today. Kevin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jun 2 11:37:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA17170 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 11:37:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bootp.sls.usu.edu (bootp.sls.usu.edu [129.123.15.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA17157 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 11:37:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kurto@bootp.sls.usu.edu) Received: (from kurto@localhost) by bootp.sls.usu.edu (8.8.2/8.8.2) id MAA14189; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 12:37:16 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 12:37:16 -0600 (MDT) From: Kurt Olsen Message-Id: <199806021837.MAA14189@bootp.sls.usu.edu> To: kurto@bootp.sls.usu.edu, toasty@home.dragondata.com Subject: Re: Voodoo graphics Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >I've already got a license from 3Dfx about doing a glide port to freebsd, >and should be starting on it this week. I just got the sources today. Excellent. Hopefully I'll still be able to get a license out of them and we can work on it, either together or even just complementing each other. At the very least I would be willing to test it... Kurt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jun 2 12:06:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA20903 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 12:06:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA20886 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 12:06:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA01331; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 12:06:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199806021906.MAA01331@rah.star-gate.com> To: Kurt Olsen cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, hasty@rah.star-gate.com Subject: Re: Voodoo graphics In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 02 Jun 1998 11:30:07 MDT." <199806021730.LAA13538@bootp.sls.usu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <1328.896814401.1@rah.star-gate.com> Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 12:06:41 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org You may want to contact Kevin Day for he is probably very close to completing a port of Glide for FreeBSD. Cheers, Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jun 2 13:34:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA05511 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 13:34:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cimlogic.com.au (cimlog.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.51.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA05506 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 13:34:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jb@cimlogic.com.au) Received: (from jb@localhost) by cimlogic.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.7) id GAA21228; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 06:43:47 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from jb) From: John Birrell Message-Id: <199806022043.GAA21228@cimlogic.com.au> Subject: Re: cannot open /dev/bktr with pthreads C library In-Reply-To: <35742AC4.2781@cs.strath.ac.uk> from Roger Hardiman at "Jun 2, 98 05:39:32 pm" To: roger@cs.strath.ac.uk (Roger Hardiman) Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 06:43:47 +1000 (EST) Cc: hasty@rah.star-gate.com, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Roger Hardiman wrote: > Well, when compiled with -lc_r, calling open() to open > /dev/bktr fails and returns errno of 25 libc_r tries to set the device to non-blocking and this is not supported by the device. I've changed both -current and -stable sources to ignore this on the assumption that if a device does not support O_NONBLOCK, then it is naturally non-blocking. -- John Birrell - jb@cimlogic.com.au; jb@freebsd.org http://www.cimlogic.com.au/ CIMlogic Pty Ltd, GPO Box 117A, Melbourne Vic 3001, Australia +61 418 353 137 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jun 2 14:04:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA09171 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 14:04:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA09162 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 14:04:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id VAA05917; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 21:25:04 +0200 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199806021925.VAA05917@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: audio from atapi cd -- patches for 2.2.6 To: mike@smith.net.au (Mike Smith) Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 21:25:04 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: mike@smith.net.au, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199806021534.IAA00545@antipodes.cdrom.com> from "Mike Smith" at Jun 2, 98 08:33:51 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > > This wouldn't happen to use the internet CD database to name your > > > tracks for you now would it? > > > > Charles said so, I have no idea on how it works. I guess I have to ... > No, the CD database doesn't do that (you can't always get at that data); > it uses a hash of the disc and track lengths ("biometric" data). interesting! > If it actually does this (I was kidding, actually), then I am an > instant convert. 8) look at the source to check, then. cheers luigi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jun 2 15:43:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA25310 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 15:43:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from quokka.prth.tensor.pgs.com (quokka1.prth.tensor.pgs.com [157.147.224.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA25299 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 15:43:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shocking@ariadne.prth.tensor.pgs.com) Received: from ariadne.tensor.pgs.com (ariadne [157.147.227.36]) by quokka.prth.tensor.pgs.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id GAA05148 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 06:42:56 +0800 (WST) Received: from ariadne by ariadne.tensor.pgs.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id GAA22005; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 06:42:53 +0800 Message-Id: <199806022242.GAA22005@ariadne.tensor.pgs.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Voodoo graphics In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 02 Jun 1998 13:16:50 EST." <199806021816.NAA02840@home.dragondata.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 06:42:53 +0800 From: Stephen Hocking-Senior Programmer PGS Tensor Perth Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org If the 2 of you can get together and also do a Mesa port, that'd be really good. Stephen To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jun 2 16:35:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA04837 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 16:35:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA04815 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 16:35:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA02203; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 16:35:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199806022335.QAA02203@rah.star-gate.com> To: Stephen Hocking-Senior Programmer PGS Tensor Perth cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, hasty@rah.star-gate.com Subject: Re: Voodoo graphics In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 03 Jun 1998 06:42:53 +0800." <199806022242.GAA22005@ariadne.tensor.pgs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <2200.896830503.1@rah.star-gate.com> Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 16:35:03 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Once we have the Glide library, the Mesa port will be trivial unless the guys want to expand on the existing support 8) Cheers, Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jun 2 18:20:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA23260 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 18:20:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA23153 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 18:20:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from doconnor@cain.gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.8.8/8.6.9) with ESMTP id KAA10994; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 10:49:50 +0930 (CST) Message-Id: <199806030119.KAA10994@cain.gsoft.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Kurt Olsen cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Voodoo graphics In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 02 Jun 1998 11:30:07 CST." <199806021730.LAA13538@bootp.sls.usu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 10:49:49 +0930 From: "Daniel O'Connor" Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > However they do want to know what kind of demand there is for such a port. > So if you want Glide and Voodoo support, send me your ideas about what > you would do (app wise) and if you would use it. Rendering preview is one that comes to mind. And of course playing games is a nice bonus :) --------------------------------------------------------------------- |Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software | |http://www.gsoft.com.au | |The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to| |choose from. -- Andrew Tanenbaum | --------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jun 2 18:45:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA27600 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 18:45:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from stevenson.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (stevenson144.cogsci.ed.ac.uk [129.215.144.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA27595 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 18:45:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk) From: richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk Received: from cockburn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (richard@cockburn [129.215.110.48]) by stevenson.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id CAA03744 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 02:45:00 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 02:44:58 +0100 Message-Id: <24168.199806030144@cockburn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk> To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: fxtv - mmap of driver buffer failed Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Having not looked at this for a long time, I just installed the 3.0 SNAP 980520 and the fxtv 0.46 package that comes with it. Unless I run it as root, I get the message "mmap of driver buffer failed: Permission denied". What have I missed here? -- Richard To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jun 2 18:54:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA28463 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 18:54:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA28453 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 18:54:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from doconnor@cain.gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.8.8/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA11662; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 11:24:13 +0930 (CST) Message-Id: <199806030154.LAA11662@cain.gsoft.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Stephen Hocking-Senior Programmer PGS Tensor Perth Subject: Re: Voodoo graphics cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 03 Jun 1998 06:42:53 +0800." <199806022242.GAA22005@ariadne.tensor.pgs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 11:24:12 +0930 From: "Daniel O'Connor" Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > If the 2 of you can get together and also do a Mesa port, that'd be really > good. IMHO it should be really easy to do my just copying the Linux section of the Mesa makefile :) --------------------------------------------------------------------- |Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software | |http://www.gsoft.com.au | |The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to| |choose from. -- Andrew Tanenbaum | --------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jun 2 22:28:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA25615 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 22:28:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA25584; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 22:28:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA03400; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 22:28:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199806030528.WAA03400@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Randall Hopper cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: X-10 Mouse Remote patch In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 01 Jun 1998 19:41:16 EDT." <19980601194116.A25497@ct.picker.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 22:28:08 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I really like the patch ! If anyone is interested in getting one it costs $29.95: http://www.x10.com/products/x10_mk19a_3.htm I bought mine a few months ago at Fry's Electronic Store in Sunnyvale, however I paid nearly double than the current price. Tnks! Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jun 2 22:32:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA26505 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 22:32:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail-gw6.pacbell.net (mail-gw6.pacbell.net [206.13.28.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA26500 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 22:32:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jackv@earthling.net) Received: from eliot.pacbell.net (ppp-207-214-209-86.snfc21.pacbell.net [207.214.209.86]) by mail-gw6.pacbell.net (8.8.8/8.7.1+antispam) with SMTP id WAA07304; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 22:32:44 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jack Velte" To: "Kurt Olsen" , "Amancio Hasty" Cc: , Subject: Re: Voodoo graphics Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 14:39:18 -0700 Message-ID: <01bd8e6e$e5c0b380$LocalHost@eliot.pacbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -----Original Message----- From: Amancio Hasty To: Kurt Olsen Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG ; hasty@rah.star-gate.com Date: Tuesday, June 02, 1998 1:05 PM Subject: Re: Voodoo graphics >You may want to contact Kevin Day >for he is probably very close to completing a port of Glide for FreeBSD. it seems that there isn't a good communication for people that want to do ports. two people started something that was 'very close' to completion. is there a registery of ports in progress? > Cheers, > Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jun 2 22:37:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA26892 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 22:37:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA26886 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 22:37:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA03508; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 22:37:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199806030537.WAA03508@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Jack Velte" cc: "Kurt Olsen" , freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Voodoo graphics In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 02 Jun 1998 14:39:18 PDT." <01bd8e6e$e5c0b380$LocalHost@eliot.pacbell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 22:37:46 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Actually, Kevin did announce that he was going to do the port and Kurt was not awared of Kevin's effort because he is new to the list. Cheers, Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jun 3 01:22:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA27456 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 01:22:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA27450 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 01:22:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA23237; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 01:22:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 01:22:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: fxtv - mmap of driver buffer failed In-Reply-To: <24168.199806030144@cockburn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 3 Jun 1998 richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk wrote: > Having not looked at this for a long time, I just installed the 3.0 > SNAP 980520 and the fxtv 0.46 package that comes with it. Unless I > run it as root, I get the message "mmap of driver buffer failed: > Permission denied". What have I missed here? I think this is FXTV falling behind reality. It open /dev/bktr0 read-only but requests read-write protections on the mmap()'d buffer. However this is a security hole since you can still write the device even if you only have read-only perms. It can be overridden by the superuser. See rev 1.75 of src/sys/vm/vm_mmap.c for details. The fix is to have fxtv open /dev/bktr0 O_RDWR and not O_RDONLY. It's too late in the night for me to try this tho. For all I know this was fixed in the fxtv 0.47 which just came out. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jun 3 04:29:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA24811 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 04:29:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from stevenson.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (stevenson144.cogsci.ed.ac.uk [129.215.144.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA24796 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 04:29:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk) Received: from cockburn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (richard@cockburn [129.215.110.48]) by stevenson.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA00495; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 12:29:11 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 12:29:11 +0100 Message-Id: <24342.199806031129@cockburn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk> From: Richard Tobin Subject: Re: fxtv - mmap of driver buffer failed To: Doug White , richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk In-Reply-To: Doug White's message of Wed, 3 Jun 1998 01:22:50 -0700 (PDT) Organization: just say no Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > The fix is to have fxtv open /dev/bktr0 O_RDWR and not O_RDONLY. It's too > late in the night for me to try this tho. For all I know this was fixed > in the fxtv 0.47 which just came out. Yes, 0.47 doesn't seem to have the problem, thanks. -- Richard To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jun 3 04:31:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA25032 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 04:31:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.visint.co.uk (wakko.visint.co.uk [194.207.134.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA25023 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 04:31:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steve@visint.co.uk) Received: from dylan.visint.co.uk (dylan.visint.co.uk [194.207.134.180]) by mail.visint.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA11886 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 12:31:05 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 12:30:03 +0100 (BST) From: Stephen Roome To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RealPlayer 5 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Short but sweet: Has anyone suggested to the folks from realaudio that it might be worth porting realplayer 5 to FreeBSD ? I mean it's not like it would be a difficult task or anything, if the Linux version almost works (and that seems to be the case) then porting it can't be the hardest job ever. Besides if enough people suggest it and point out that those of use who use FreeBSD as our desktop environment may be able to use Real Player 5 we might consider purchasing the server versions for the servers that we run. Steve P.S. I just sent in a suggestion from their webpage. Steve Roome - Vision Interactive Ltd. Tel:+44(0)117 9730597 Home:+44(0)976 241342 WWW: http://dylan.visint.co.uk/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jun 3 05:06:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA29362 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 05:06:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Relay.Romania.EU.net (main.RO.EU.net [193.226.128.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA29313 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 05:06:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eugen@Romania.EU.net) Received: from eugen-pc.ro.eu.net (eugen-pc.RO.EU.net [193.226.128.200]) by Relay.Romania.EU.net (8.8.8-EU/8.8.8/EUI_RO-AntiSpam) with SMTP id PAA16438 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 15:05:56 +0300 (EET DST) Message-ID: <35753C3E.41C67EA6@Romania.EU.net> Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 15:06:22 +0300 From: Eugen Chirila Organization: EUnet Romania X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.6-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Sound card Crystal PnP Audio System CODEC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi All! How can I... ? This sound card is on the motherboard of may computer, a DELL OptiPlex GXi. IRQ5 , DMA0 Best regards, /Eugen To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jun 3 08:58:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA05688 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 08:58:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA05683 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 08:58:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA05750; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 08:58:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199806031558.IAA05750@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Stephen Roome cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RealPlayer 5 In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 03 Jun 1998 12:30:03 BST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 08:58:31 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In the beginning , the real audio servers and possible also the client was developed under FreeBSD . Additionally, their Server team lead is a multimedia hacker who used to hang around here so they are not new to FreeBSD. Amancio > > Short but sweet: Has anyone suggested to the folks from realaudio that it > might be worth porting realplayer 5 to FreeBSD ? > > I mean it's not like it would be a difficult task or anything, if the > Linux version almost works (and that seems to be the case) then porting it > can't be the hardest job ever. > > Besides if enough people suggest it and point out that those of use who > use FreeBSD as our desktop environment may be able to use Real Player 5 we > might consider purchasing the server versions for the servers that we run. > > Steve > > P.S. I just sent in a suggestion from their webpage. > > Steve Roome - Vision Interactive Ltd. > Tel:+44(0)117 9730597 Home:+44(0)976 241342 > WWW: http://dylan.visint.co.uk/ > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jun 3 11:35:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA00742 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 11:35:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bootp.sls.usu.edu (bootp.sls.usu.edu [129.123.15.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA00722 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 11:35:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kurto@bootp.sls.usu.edu) Received: (from kurto@localhost) by bootp.sls.usu.edu (8.8.2/8.8.2) id MAA26033 for freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 12:34:58 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 12:34:58 -0600 (MDT) From: Kurt Olsen Message-Id: <199806031834.MAA26033@bootp.sls.usu.edu> To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Voodoo graphics Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >this is good. is there a standard negotiation framework for getting >these companies to give up their source? could you, kurt, write an >outline of your process? thank you, Most of the time I just look for some way to make contact. Either by phone, email, whatever. For 3Dfx I was reading their news site and saw that there was a particular person who seemed to be involved with Glide. So I sent him an email and he put me in contact with the proper individuals to arrange licensing. 3Dfx seems to want to have Glide ported, they just don't have the manpower to support every platform. In all likelyhood there will be no source release and I'll be signing NDAs, etc. But if that's what it takes, then that's what it takes. When I got the Tseng databooks I just called them and they took my name and address and sent it out. Similar when I contacted Atari (RIP) a while ago about one of their platforms. I think that the big thing is not to be too pushy, I realize that often I'm asking for favors which don't have a lot of return potential. So I try to treat the company like I would anybody who is doing me a favor. It's also important that you don't make a claim to being something that you are not, ie. I never said I was CEO of FreeBSD Inc. or anything like that. Doing so could cause real problems for FreeBSD and tarnish our image. Now I'll try to stop lecturing people who probably know more about this sort of thing that I. Have a good day. Kurt Olsen kurto@bootp.sls.usu.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jun 3 13:24:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA24253 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 13:24:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA24245 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 13:24:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA24575; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 13:24:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 13:24:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Eugen Chirila cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sound card Crystal PnP Audio System CODEC In-Reply-To: <35753C3E.41C67EA6@Romania.EU.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 3 Jun 1998, Eugen Chirila wrote: > Hi All! > > How can I... ? > This sound card is on the motherboard of may computer, > a DELL OptiPlex GXi. > > IRQ5 , DMA0 Add controller pnp0 device pcm0 at isa? port ? irq ? tty vector pcmintr to your kernel config & rebuild your kernel. That should pick it up. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jun 3 13:48:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA28943 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 13:48:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Relay.Romania.EU.net (main.RO.EU.net [193.226.128.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA28929 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 13:48:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eugen@romania.eu.net) Received: from noc-home (noc-home.ro.eu.net [193.226.149.4]) by Relay.Romania.EU.net (8.8.8-EU/8.8.8/EUI_RO-AntiSpam) with SMTP id XAA26156; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 23:47:24 +0300 (EET DST) Message-ID: <3575B5EE.699A@romania.eu.net> Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 23:45:34 +0300 From: Eugen Chirila Reply-To: eugen@romania.eu.net Organization: EUnet Romania X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Doug White CC: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sound card Crystal PnP Audio System CODEC References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Doug White wrote: > > On Wed, 3 Jun 1998, Eugen Chirila wrote: > > > Hi All! > > > > How can I... ? > > This sound card is on the motherboard of may computer, > > a DELL OptiPlex GXi. > > > > IRQ5 , DMA0 > > Add > > controller pnp0 > device pcm0 at isa? port ? irq ? tty vector pcmintr > > to your kernel config & rebuild your kernel. That should pick it up. Gee... Thank you! Hope will work. /Eugen To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jun 3 20:07:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA10676 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 20:07:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.virginia.edu (mail.Virginia.EDU [128.143.2.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA10667 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 20:07:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bz9t@virginia.edu) Received: from unix.mail.virginia.edu by mail.virginia.edu id aa25604; 3 Jun 98 23:07 EDT Received: from neriah (ppp-11.tc-1.nwk.smartworld.net [205.181.91.13]) by unix.mail.Virginia.EDU (8.8.5/8.6.6) with SMTP id XAA51710 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 23:07:18 -0400 Message-Id: <199806040307.XAA51710@unix.mail.Virginia.EDU> X-Sender: bz9t@unix.mail.virginia.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 23:06:00 -0400 To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG From: Billy Zhao Subject: STB TV tuner Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi! I found your page on the web. I just have a question, do you know what the 12 volt Power Output on it is used for? I can't figure it out. Also, do you know where I can find the CD-ROM audio input on the card? I'm trying to connect both my CD-audio and my TV card to my sound card. Thanks! Billy Zhao To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jun 3 21:57:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA27423 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 21:57:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nethawk.converg.com (nat.converg.com [205.218.3.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA27413 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 21:57:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matthews@nethawk.converg.com) Received: (from matthews@localhost) by nethawk.converg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA00291; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 22:56:35 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from matthews) Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 22:56:35 -0600 (MDT) From: John Matthews Message-Id: <199806040456.WAA00291@nethawk.converg.com> To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: BT848 and newer versions of WinTV cards Cc: matthews@converg.com Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I currently have fxtv working on my PC and since I'm building another one, I purchased two different WinTV cards the other day which won't work with the 2.2.6 drivers or the updated driver dated 980519. I'm wondering if someone could tell me what the version is on the cards (with FM stereo) that are working? The first one I tried had a bt878 chip on it and wasn't recognized by the kernel. I returned it to the store and found another one that had a bt848 on it. The kernel found it and fxtv turned it on but, I could never tune into any channels with it. This board had Revision C1V on the tuner. Any ideas? Are there any plans for supporting the TurboTV card http://www.ixmicro.com/turbotvmac.htm ? I've also tried this card with no luck. fxtv can tune in all the channels, but it won't turn on any sound? John Matthews To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Jun 4 00:15:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA15705 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 00:15:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA15698 for ; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 00:15:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA01161; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 00:15:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199806040715.AAA01161@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: John Matthews cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, matthews@converg.com Subject: Re: BT848 and newer versions of WinTV cards In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 03 Jun 1998 22:56:35 MDT." <199806040456.WAA00291@nethawk.converg.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 00:15:12 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I use a Turbo Micro over here every day. You have to download the latest driver or get the one from -current. Cheers, Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Jun 4 01:19:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA25556 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 01:19:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.visint.co.uk (wakko.visint.co.uk [194.207.134.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA25550 for ; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 01:19:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steve@visint.co.uk) Received: from dylan.visint.co.uk (dylan.visint.co.uk [194.207.134.180]) by mail.visint.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA16634; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 09:19:09 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 09:18:05 +0100 (BST) From: Stephen Roome To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG cc: sfarrell@farrell.org Subject: Re: RealPlayer 5 In-Reply-To: <87ra168xqh.fsf@couatl.uchicago.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 3 Jun 1998 sfarrell@farrell.org wrote: > Stephen Roome writes: > > > I mean it's not like it would be a difficult task or anything, if > > the Linux version almost works (and that seems to be the case) then > > What problems were you having with the linux version? I'm not sure what problems I was having, but I remember it not being perfect for me when I tried it. This was a while ago though. More importantly, even if the player works 100% perfectly under Linux emulation, it would be better if software was actually developed for FreeBSD. With binaries being available that will work without the installation of many other packages. To make FreeBSD an operating system to choose, right now anyone who has not used FreeBSD much might not know that the linux emulation is that good. People choose software on what they know about it and peope will be choosing Linux over FreeBSD because of software availability. It's not a major problem, but having software come out with in-built FreeBSD support is actually a good thing. Steve Steve Roome - Vision Interactive Ltd. Tel:+44(0)117 9730597 Home:+44(0)976 241342 WWW: http://dylan.visint.co.uk/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Jun 4 01:23:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA26280 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 01:23:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.visint.co.uk (wakko.visint.co.uk [194.207.134.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA26271 for ; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 01:23:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steve@visint.co.uk) Received: from dylan.visint.co.uk (dylan.visint.co.uk [194.207.134.180]) by mail.visint.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA16659; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 09:23:15 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 09:22:11 +0100 (BST) From: Stephen Roome To: Amancio Hasty cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RealPlayer 5 In-Reply-To: <199806031558.IAA05750@rah.star-gate.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 3 Jun 1998, Amancio Hasty wrote: > In the beginning , the real audio servers and possible also the > client was developed under FreeBSD . Additionally, their > Server team lead is a multimedia hacker who used to hang > around here so they are not new to FreeBSD. I installed the real audio/video servers on this machine about a year ago or thereabouts. Since then it's a Linux application. This is really bad for FreeBSD, are there software developers who are just thinking that they'll develop for Linux and then the FreeBSD emulation team will just ensure it that anything Linux runs fine. I'm not complaining about the quality of the Linux emulation here, just that if commercial developers are relying on the FreeBSD team to do a portion of their job that's really bad. If what you say is true, it shouldn't be too hard to get them to develop for FreeBSD once again. Steve Steve Roome - Vision Interactive Ltd. Tel:+44(0)117 9730597 Home:+44(0)976 241342 WWW: http://dylan.visint.co.uk/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Jun 4 06:59:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA09776 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 06:59:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail-gw.pacbell.net (mail-gw.pacbell.net [206.13.28.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA09770 for ; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 06:59:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jackv@earthling.net) Received: from eliot.pacbell.net (ppp-206-170-1-117.snfc21.pacbell.net [206.170.1.117]) by mail-gw.pacbell.net (8.8.8/8.7.1+antispam) with SMTP id GAA15580 for ; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 06:59:39 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jack Velte" Cc: Subject: FreeBSD Linux emulation Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 06:52:04 -0700 Message-ID: <01bd8fbf$f4dea780$f820aace@eliot.pacbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >On Wed, 3 Jun 1998, Amancio Hasty wrote: >> In the beginning , the real audio servers and possible also the >> client was developed under FreeBSD . Additionally, their >> Server team lead is a multimedia hacker who used to hang >> around here so they are not new to FreeBSD. > >I installed the real audio/video servers on this machine about a year ago >or thereabouts. Since then it's a Linux application. > >This is really bad for FreeBSD, are there software developers who are just >thinking that they'll develop for Linux and then the FreeBSD emulation >team will just ensure it that anything Linux runs fine. how well does this work? if it works well, then it's a very good thing because it'll be easier to canabalize linux users. 100% linux capability would be a very good thing. is the `emulation' slower? -jack To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Jun 4 07:40:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA16160 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 07:40:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail-gw.pacbell.net (mail-gw.pacbell.net [206.13.28.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA16104 for ; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 07:40:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jackv@earthling.net) Received: from eliot.pacbell.net (ppp-206-170-1-117.snfc21.pacbell.net [206.170.1.117]) by mail-gw.pacbell.net (8.8.8/8.7.1+antispam) with SMTP id HAA00131; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 07:40:01 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jack Velte" To: "Kurt Olsen" , Subject: Re: Voodoo graphics Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 07:27:10 -0700 Message-ID: <01bd8fc4$dc24c080$f820aace@eliot.pacbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org standard negotiation framework for getting porting help. CONTACT >Most of the time I just look for some way to make contact. Either by >phone, email, whatever. For 3Dfx I was reading their news site and saw >that there was a particular person who seemed to be involved with >Glide. So I sent him an email and he put me in contact with the proper >individuals to arrange licensing. 3Dfx seems to want to have Glide >ported, they just don't have the manpower to support every platform. (it's sort of odd that more then one person contacted them with no internal communication on their part.) >In all likelyhood there will be no source release and I'll be signing >NDAs, etc. But if that's what it takes, then that's what it takes. how do you code that with no source release? >When I got the Tseng databooks I just called them and they took my >name and address and sent it out. Similar when I contacted Atari (RIP) >a while ago about one of their platforms. > >I think that the big thing is not to be too pushy, I realize that marines think the answer is more force. >often I'm asking for favors which don't have a lot of return potential. i disagree with this. FreeBSD has lots and lots of return potential, especially amoung the highend buyers. * there should be a FreeBSD fact sheet, one printed page, that runs over why FreeBSD is a good thing. html page with links.* >So I try to treat the company like I would anybody who is doing me a >favor. yes, that's the way free software works. >It's also important that you don't make a claim to being something yup. this sounds like a good fact sheet to me. could you be the maintainer, or starter, of the licensing faq, please? just reedit this. >that you are not, ie. I never said I was CEO of FreeBSD Inc. or anything >like that. Doing so could cause real problems for FreeBSD and tarnish >our image. >Have a good day. -jack To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Jun 4 09:28:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA09033 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 09:28:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from miller.cs.uwm.edu (miller.cs.uwm.edu [129.89.139.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA09024 for ; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 09:28:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from james@miller.cs.uwm.edu) Received: (from james@localhost) by miller.cs.uwm.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA02532 for multimedia@freebsd.org; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 11:28:49 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 11:28:49 -0500 (CDT) From: Jim Lowe Message-Id: <199806041628.LAA02532@miller.cs.uwm.edu> To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Tick, tock, I need a fast clock... Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Are there any timers available to applications in FreeBSD faster than 10ms? If not, is there a simple way to increase the interval timers minimal time to something like .1ms without adversely effecting system performance? -Jim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Jun 4 09:37:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA10678 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 09:37:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA10667 for ; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 09:37:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA02799; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 09:37:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199806041637.JAA02799@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: John Matthews cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, matthews@converg.com Subject: Re: BT848 and newer versions of WinTV cards In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 03 Jun 1998 22:56:35 MDT." <199806040456.WAA00291@nethawk.converg.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 09:37:38 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org It is easy to incorporate a new bt848/tuner if the driver does not recognize the card/tuner. struct bt848_card_sig bt848_card_signature[1]= { /* IMS TURBO TV : card 5 */ { 5,9, {00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 02, 00, 00, 00}} 5 is the card number 9 is the tuner number {00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 02, 00, 00, 00} is the output of sign available from http://www.freebsd.org/~ahasty/Bt848.html I have to try to get the Bt878 databook later on this week. If anyone in the meantime runs into this card try to assign the PCI ID in the driver (/sys/pci/brooktree848.c): static int bktr_pci_match(pci_devaddr_t *pa) { unsigned id; id = pci_inl(pa, PCI_VENDOR_ID); if (id == BROOKTREE_848_ID || id == BROOKTREE_849_ID ) { return 1; } aprint_debug("bktr_pci_match got %x\n", id); return 0; } Cheers, Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Jun 4 10:20:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA18106 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 10:20:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (root@fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk [130.159.196.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA18097 for ; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 10:20:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roger@cs.strath.ac.uk) Received: from muir-10 (roger@muir-10.cs.strath.ac.uk [130.159.148.10]) by fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA28228 Thu, 4 Jun 1998 18:19:58 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <3576D73C.2781@cs.strath.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 18:19:56 +0100 From: Roger Hardiman Organization: University of Strathclyde X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; OSF1 V3.2 alpha) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Billy Zhao CC: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: STB TV tuner References: <199806040307.XAA51710@unix.mail.Virginia.EDU> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Billy Zhao wrote: > > Hi! I found your page on the web. I just have a question, do you > know what the 12 volt Power Output on it is used for? VideoLogic make Bt848 cards with 5v / 12v power output. (changed via a jumper on the card). It is used to power the camera / camcorder. Roger Hardiman To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Jun 4 11:04:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA25875 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 11:04:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from north.lcs.mit.edu (north.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA25852 for ; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 11:04:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjh@north.lcs.mit.edu) Received: from north.lcs.mit.edu by north.lcs.mit.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA03712; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 14:03:59 -0400 From: Mark Handley X-Organisation: Information Sciences Institute, USC X-Phone: +1 617 253 6011 To: Jim Lowe cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Tick, tock, I need a fast clock... In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 04 Jun 1998 11:28:49 CDT." <199806041628.LAA02532@miller.cs.uwm.edu> Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 14:03:59 -0400 Message-ID: <3710.896983439@north.lcs.mit.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Are there any timers available to applications in FreeBSD faster than >10ms? If not, is there a simple way to increase the interval timers >minimal time to something like .1ms without adversely effecting system >performance? I has the same requirement earlier this week. You can change the value of HZ in /usr/src/sys/conf/param.c from the default value of 100 to something larger and rebuild. My system is currently running with this set to 1000, which allows interval timers using select of around 2ms (why isn't it 1ms??). The system seems to run fine, but the values measured for per-process CPU utilization by top (and presumably other utilities) are low by an order of magnitude. Presumably this is a bug in some of the kernel stats code. It does seem somewhat rediculous that HZ is still set to 100 by default in these days of 400MHz processors. Cheers, Mark To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Jun 4 12:08:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA12050 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 12:08:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dyson.iquest.net (dyson.iquest.net [198.70.144.127]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA11983 for ; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 12:08:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from toor@dyson.iquest.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by dyson.iquest.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA02122; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 14:07:53 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from toor) Message-Id: <199806041907.OAA02122@dyson.iquest.net> Subject: Re: FreeBSD Linux emulation In-Reply-To: <01bd8fbf$f4dea780$f820aace@eliot.pacbell.net> from Jack Velte at "Jun 4, 98 06:52:04 am" To: jackv@earthling.net (Jack Velte) Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 14:07:53 -0500 (EST) Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG From: "John S. Dyson" Reply-To: dyson@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jack Velte said: > > how well does this work? if it works well, then it's a very good thing > because it'll be easier to canabalize linux users. 100% linux capability > would be a very good thing. is the `emulation' slower? > Generally FreeBSD emulation of Linux is slightly faster, and MUCH faster under load. Running certain LL benchmarks, FreeBSD is slower, but app performance is supurb. -- John | Never try to teach a pig to sing, dyson@freebsd.org | it just makes you look stupid, jdyson@nc.com | and it irritates the pig. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Jun 4 14:07:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA07880 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 14:07:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail-gw.pacbell.net (mail-gw.pacbell.net [206.13.28.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA07748 for ; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 14:07:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jackv@earthling.net) Received: from eliot.pacbell.net (ppp-206-170-32-159.snfc21.pacbell.net [206.170.32.159]) by mail-gw.pacbell.net (8.8.8/8.7.1+antispam) with SMTP id OAA07682; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 14:07:20 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jack Velte" Cc: , "Ellen Hsu" Subject: Re: FreeBSD Linux emulation Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 13:59:18 -0700 Message-ID: <01bd8ffb$a3e37cc0$f820aace@eliot.pacbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Jack Velte said: >> >> how well does this work? if it works well, then it's a very good thing >> because it'll be easier to canabalize linux users. 100% linux capability >> would be a very good thing. is the `emulation' slower? >> >Generally FreeBSD emulation of Linux is slightly faster, and MUCH faster >under load. Running certain LL benchmarks, FreeBSD is slower, but app >performance is supurb. do 100% of the app's run 100% of the time? (except for the buggy ones, eh?) then a slogan like, "freebsd, the stable linux," would work pretty well in linux journal, maybe. -jack To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Jun 4 19:28:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA07491 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 19:28:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from whizzo.transsys.com (whizzo.TransSys.COM [144.202.42.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA07442 for ; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 19:28:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from louie@whizzo.transsys.com) Received: from whizzo.transsys.com (localhost.transsys.com [127.0.0.1]) by whizzo.transsys.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA11206; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 22:27:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199806050227.WAA11206@whizzo.transsys.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: Mark Handley cc: Jim Lowe , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Louis A. Mamakos" Subject: Re: Tick, tock, I need a fast clock... References: <3710.896983439@north.lcs.mit.edu> In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 04 Jun 1998 14:03:59 EDT." <3710.896983439@north.lcs.mit.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 22:27:52 -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > >Are there any timers available to applications in FreeBSD faster than > >10ms? If not, is there a simple way to increase the interval timers > >minimal time to something like .1ms without adversely effecting system > >performance? > > I has the same requirement earlier this week. You can change the > value of HZ in /usr/src/sys/conf/param.c from the default value of 100 > to something larger and rebuild. My system is currently running with > this set to 1000, which allows interval timers using select of around > 2ms (why isn't it 1ms??). The system seems to run fine, but the > values measured for per-process CPU utilization by top (and presumably > other utilities) are low by an order of magnitude. Presumably this is > a bug in some of the kernel stats code. > > It does seem somewhat rediculous that HZ is still set to 100 by > default in these days of 400MHz processors. What's needed is some smarter hardware, not more frequent interrupts. For an example, take a look at http://www.bancomm.com/cbc637PCI.htm for a board with the ability to provide time with approximately microsecond precision. Hook it to an external IRIG-B timecode source, internal GPS receiver for more precise time and frequency. I'm working on a project with the CompactPCI version of this for precise packet arrival timestamps. (e.g., timestamp each packet deep in the driver as it arrives. Just a few PCI bus cycles to do so..) louie To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Jun 4 20:08:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA12794 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 20:08:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dyson.iquest.net (dyson.iquest.net [198.70.144.127]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA12750 for ; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 20:08:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from toor@dyson.iquest.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by dyson.iquest.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA00391; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 22:07:58 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from toor) Message-Id: <199806050307.WAA00391@dyson.iquest.net> Subject: Re: FreeBSD Linux emulation In-Reply-To: <01bd8ffb$a3e37cc0$f820aace@eliot.pacbell.net> from Jack Velte at "Jun 4, 98 01:59:18 pm" To: jackv@earthling.net (Jack Velte) Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 22:07:58 -0500 (EST) Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, yelowjam@pacbell.net From: "John S. Dyson" Reply-To: dyson@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jack Velte said: > > > >Jack Velte said: > >> > >> how well does this work? if it works well, then it's a very good thing > >> because it'll be easier to canabalize linux users. 100% linux capability > >> would be a very good thing. is the `emulation' slower? > >> > >Generally FreeBSD emulation of Linux is slightly faster, and MUCH faster > >under load. Running certain LL benchmarks, FreeBSD is slower, but app > >performance is supurb. > > do 100% of the app's run 100% of the time? (except for the buggy ones, eh?) > > then a slogan like, "freebsd, the stable linux," would work pretty well in > linux journal, maybe. > Unfortunately, it is hard to standardize against a moving target. FreeBSD isn't quite 100%, but more like 95-99%. Not good enough for 100%, unless a seriously funded organization is willing to work the support issues to force it to 100%. :-(. Earlier on, I had a dream of a Linux upgrade in the form of slipping in a FreeBSD kernel. It would almost work, but not quite (device nodes, some missing Linux emulation API, etc.) :-(. -- John | Never try to teach a pig to sing, dyson@freebsd.org | it just makes you look stupid, jdyson@nc.com | and it irritates the pig. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Jun 4 20:32:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA15958 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 20:32:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from stratos.net (pm3-10-43.stratos.net [207.86.134.107]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA15950; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 20:32:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from drifter@stratos.net) From: drifter@stratos.net Received: (from drifter@localhost) by stratos.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) id XAA07634; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 23:32:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19980604233228.A7626@stratos.net> Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 23:32:28 -0400 To: dyson@FreeBSD.ORG, Jack Velte Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD Linux emulation References: <01bd8fbf$f4dea780$f820aace@eliot.pacbell.net> <199806041907.OAA02122@dyson.iquest.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <199806041907.OAA02122@dyson.iquest.net>; from John S. Dyson on Thu, Jun 04, 1998 at 02:07:53PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Jun 04, 1998 at 02:07:53PM -0500, John S. Dyson wrote: > Jack Velte said: > > > > how well does this work? if it works well, then it's a very good thing > > because it'll be easier to canabalize linux users. 100% linux capability > > would be a very good thing. is the `emulation' slower? > > > Generally FreeBSD emulation of Linux is slightly faster, and MUCH faster > under load. Running certain LL benchmarks, FreeBSD is slower, but app > performance is supurb. Just out of curiosity, I noticed that when I run Adobe Acrobat Reader or StarOffice under Linux emulation, drawing of pages (under Acrobat) or toolbar icons (under StarOffice) seems to be painfully slow. By painfully, I don't mean unusable, just that (under StarOffice), every time you switch back to the virtual desktop containing StarOffice, you can actually see each individual icon being painted on the screen one-by-one. My native FreeBSD programs don't do this, so I was just wondering. --- drifter@stratos.nospam.net (remove nospam to send) "Ever notice that in every commercial about the Internet, advertising geniuses can't resist having a bunch of kids staring into a monitor, awe- struck, looking at a whale jumping out of the ocean? Or is it just me?" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Jun 4 23:54:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA21260 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 23:54:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dyson.iquest.net (dyson.iquest.net [198.70.144.127]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA21250; Thu, 4 Jun 1998 23:54:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from toor@dyson.iquest.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by dyson.iquest.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA00629; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 01:54:39 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from toor) Message-Id: <199806050654.BAA00629@dyson.iquest.net> Subject: Re: FreeBSD Linux emulation In-Reply-To: <19980604233228.A7626@stratos.net> from "drifter@stratos.net" at "Jun 4, 98 11:32:28 pm" To: drifter@stratos.net Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 01:54:39 -0500 (EST) Cc: dyson@FreeBSD.ORG, jackv@earthling.net, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG From: "John S. Dyson" Reply-To: dyson@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org drifter@stratos.net said: > > Just out of curiosity, I noticed that when I run Adobe Acrobat > Reader or StarOffice under Linux emulation, drawing of pages (under > Acrobat) or toolbar icons (under StarOffice) seems to be painfully > slow. > By painfully, I don't mean unusable, just that (under StarOffice), > every time you switch back to the virtual desktop containing StarOffice, > you can actually see each individual icon being painted on the screen > one-by-one. > My native FreeBSD programs don't do this, so I was just wondering. > I don't notice that Adobe Acrobat is slow, but StarOffice is almost always slow, even/especially on Linux. -- John | Never try to teach a pig to sing, dyson@freebsd.org | it just makes you look stupid, jdyson@nc.com | and it irritates the pig. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Jun 5 00:09:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA23758 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 00:09:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nethawk.converg.com (nethawk.converg.com [205.218.3.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA23705 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 00:08:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matthews@nethawk.converg.com) Received: (from matthews@localhost) by nethawk.converg.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) id BAA01769; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 01:08:49 -0600 (MDT) Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 01:08:49 -0600 (MDT) From: John Matthews Message-Id: <199806050708.BAA01769@nethawk.converg.com> To: hasty@rah.star-gate.com Subject: Re: BT848 and newer versions of WinTV cards Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199806041637.JAA02799@rah.star-gate.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Amancio, I got the WinTV card working by doing the OVERRIDE_TUNER defintion: #define OVERRIDE_TUNER 9 Is there a utility yet to use the FM radio? FYI, the model number is 401 and the Part Number on the card is NTSC 60171 Rev C1V. I tried all the overrides the last time I was trying to get a TurboTV card working about six months ago but had no luck. I didn't bother sending out any e-mail that time, but I do appreciate your help on this one. I tried the following definition too but for whatever reason it kept autodetecting a TEMIC PAL tuner instead of the PHILIPS_FR1236_NTSC tuner. struct bt848_card_sig bt848_card_signature[1]= { /* WinTV with FM Stereo : card 2 */ { 2,9, {00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 01, 00, 01, 00, 02, 00, 00, 00}} The output from sign is: signature contents, 0x01 thru 0xff: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 00 01 00 02 00 00 00 i2c device found @ 0x80 0xa0 0xc2 Thanks for all your help, John Matthews To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Jun 5 01:16:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA03302 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 01:16:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA03297; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 01:16:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA02555; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 01:16:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199806050816.BAA02555@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: dyson@FreeBSD.ORG cc: drifter@stratos.net, jackv@earthling.net, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD Linux emulation In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 05 Jun 1998 01:54:39 CDT." <199806050654.BAA00629@dyson.iquest.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 01:16:38 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Star Office runs reasonably well over here: FreeBSD 3.0 -current, PPro 200Mhz , 96MB of memory. Matrox Millenium 4MB XFree86 3.3.1 color depth 16bit resolution 1024x768 Disk can be a consideration as well as memory . I have a Seagate 10k rpm fast ultra wide 4.2 gig Cheers, Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Jun 5 01:45:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA07545 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 01:45:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from vee.net (challenger.vee.net [192.83.231.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA07539 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 01:45:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@vee.net) Received: from challenger.vee.net (challenger.vee.net [192.83.231.99]) by vee.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA16506 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 18:22:42 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from mike@vee.net) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.2 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199805250640.XAA16274@rah.star-gate.com> X-VNetVersion: VNet 1.2 Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 18:22:39 +0930 (CST) Organization: VNet From: Michael Gratton To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: reccomendations for a video camera Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi people, What's a good PC camera to buy (black & white or color)? What software is available out there? I want be able to capture both individual frames and full motion video. Thanks.. Mike. * Mike Gratton - mike@vee.net ! "I'd rather be anywhere doing anything" $ http://www.vee.net/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Jun 5 04:00:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA25469 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 04:00:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from arthur.caida.org (arthur.caida.org [204.212.46.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA25436 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 04:00:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwm@arthur.caida.org) Received: from arthur.caida.org (localhost.caida.org [127.0.0.1]) by arthur.caida.org (8.9.0/8.9.0.Beta5) with ESMTP id FAA08849; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 05:59:13 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199806051059.FAA08849@arthur.caida.org> Location: CAIDA Ann Arbor, MI To: Michael Gratton cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: reccomendations for a video camera In-reply-to: Message from of Fri Jun 5, 1998 18:22 +0930 Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 06:59:12 -0400 From: Daniel McRobb Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Hi people, > > What's a good PC camera to buy (black & white or color)? What software is > available out there? > > I want be able to capture both individual frames and full motion video. > > Thanks.. > Mike. I think that depends on at least 2 things: - how much money you want to spend - intended use I shopped not too long ago and there seemed to be roughly a 3-tier price range for stationary CCD cameras which can't work standalone: $200 and under, around $500, and around $1000 (and more). The $200 and under cameras I found were either Connectix or Connectix-like (parallel port, horrible interrupt load) or USB (unsupported AFAIK). The $1000+ cameras have it all, some including motorized speaker-following technology of various types (good for video lectures). I wound up with one in the $500 range, a Sony CCD-PC1. Works well for me (though I'm not using the cheesy ceramic microphone in the base). Plugs in to a Wincast/TV card (fairly standard fare for FreeBSD). Intended use largely boils down to whether or not you want to be able to use the camera for other things (or alternatively, whether or not you want to use a camera whose intended use is not desktop computer oriented). A plain old videocamera works fine for motion video and usually has both RCA and s-video out jacks plus audio. You can use it away from your computer, obviously (but if it's always going to be on your desk, do you really want it sitting out all the time collecting dust on all those moving parts?). Software takes care of snapshots for you (fxtv, for example). I didn't look into handheld CCD snapshot cameras that also do motion video since my interest was strictly desktop videoconferencing and shots/movies of my crazy golden retriever in the home office. :-) Daniel ~~~~~~ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Jun 5 04:31:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA01385 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 04:31:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gratis.grondar.za (gratis.grondar.za [196.7.18.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA01350 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 04:31:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from greenpeace.grondar.za (root@greenpeace.grondar.za [196.7.18.132]) by gratis.grondar.za (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA05872; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 13:31:34 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grondar.za (mark@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by greenpeace.grondar.za (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA09194; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 13:31:20 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Message-Id: <199806051131.NAA09194@greenpeace.grondar.za> To: Michael Gratton cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: reccomendations for a video camera Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 13:31:20 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Michael Gratton wrote: > > Hi people, > > What's a good PC camera to buy (black & white or color)? What software is > available out there? > > I want be able to capture both individual frames and full motion video. Any good camcorder and a BT848-based video card will do a good job. M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Jun 5 04:47:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA03651 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 04:47:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail-gw3.pacbell.net (mail-gw3.pacbell.net [206.13.28.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA03646; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 04:47:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jackv@earthling.net) Received: from eliot.pacbell.net (ppp-206-170-1-192.snfc21.pacbell.net [206.170.1.192]) by mail-gw3.pacbell.net (8.8.8/8.7.1+antispam) with SMTP id EAA14457; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 04:47:37 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jack Velte" To: Cc: Subject: Re: FreeBSD Linux emulation Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 04:39:35 -0700 Message-ID: <01bd9076$9d2f37e0$c001aace@eliot.pacbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org From: John S. Dyson To: drifter@stratos.net Cc: dyson@FreeBSD.ORG ; jackv@earthling.net ; multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Thursday, June 04, 1998 11:54 PM Subject: Re: FreeBSD Linux emulation >> Just out of curiosity, I noticed that when I run Adobe Acrobat >> Reader or StarOffice under Linux emulation, drawing of pages (under >> Acrobat) or toolbar icons (under StarOffice) seems to be painfully >> slow. > >I don't notice that Adobe Acrobat is slow, but StarOffice is almost >always slow, even/especially on Linux. having gateway sell a preconfigured, perfectly set up FreeBSD box would be a good first step toward ultimate stability. -jack To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Jun 5 05:08:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA06346 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 05:08:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gilgamesch.bik-gmbh.de (gilgamesch.bik-gmbh.de [194.233.237.91]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA06338; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 05:08:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cracauer@gilgamesch.bik-gmbh.de) Received: (from cracauer@localhost) by gilgamesch.bik-gmbh.de (8.8.8/8.7.3) id OAA04240; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 14:08:09 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19980605140808.58247@cons.org> Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 14:08:08 +0200 From: Martin Cracauer To: drifter@stratos.net, dyson@FreeBSD.ORG, Jack Velte Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD Linux emulation References: <01bd8fbf$f4dea780$f820aace@eliot.pacbell.net> <199806041907.OAA02122@dyson.iquest.net> <19980604233228.A7626@stratos.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: <19980604233228.A7626@stratos.net>; from drifter@stratos.net on Thu, Jun 04, 1998 at 11:32:28PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In <19980604233228.A7626@stratos.net>, drifter@stratos.net wrote: > Just out of curiosity, I noticed that when I run Adobe Acrobat > Reader or StarOffice under Linux emulation, drawing of pages (under > Acrobat) or toolbar icons (under StarOffice) seems to be painfully > slow. Maybe missing/not-recogized SysV shared memory to the X server? Martin -- %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Martin Cracauer http://www.cons.org/cracauer BSD User Group Hamburg, Germany http://www.bsdhh.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Jun 5 05:08:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA06446 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 05:08:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail-gw3.pacbell.net (mail-gw3.pacbell.net [206.13.28.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA06441 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 05:08:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jackv@earthling.net) Received: from eliot.pacbell.net (ppp-206-170-1-192.snfc21.pacbell.net [206.170.1.192]) by mail-gw3.pacbell.net (8.8.8/8.7.1+antispam) with SMTP id FAA18767; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 05:08:48 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jack Velte" To: "John Matthews" , Cc: Subject: Re: BT848 and newer versions of WinTV cards Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 04:56:49 -0700 Message-ID: <01bd9079$05ae6640$c001aace@eliot.pacbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -----Original Message----- From: John Matthews To: hasty@rah.star-gate.com Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Friday, June 05, 1998 1:08 AM Subject: Re: BT848 and newer versions of WinTV cards >Amancio, > I got the WinTV card working by doing the OVERRIDE_TUNER defintion: i'm really interested in software design for the tuner cards. are there API's? are there libraries? what kind of software runs on the cards? what is a good one to get? -jack To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Jun 5 05:28:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA08477 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 05:28:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA08469 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 05:28:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id MAA11292; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 12:48:00 +0200 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199806051048.MAA11292@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: reccomendations for a video camera To: mark@grondar.za (Mark Murray) Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 12:48:00 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: mike@vee.net, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199806051131.NAA09194@greenpeace.grondar.za> from "Mark Murray" at Jun 5, 98 01:31:01 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > What's a good PC camera to buy (black & white or color)? What software is > > available out there? > > > > I want be able to capture both individual frames and full motion video. > > Any good camcorder and a BT848-based video card will do a good job. keep in mind if you want to do videoconferencing, you need something with manual focus and brightness control, or for every little things that moves the camera will adapt its settings causing all your blocks to change. cheers luigi -----------------------------+-------------------------------------- Luigi Rizzo | Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione email: luigi@iet.unipi.it | Universita' di Pisa tel: +39-50-568533 | via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) fax: +39-50-568522 | http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ _____________________________|______________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Jun 5 07:49:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA05511 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 07:49:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.artcom.de (tui.artcom.de [192.76.129.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA05489 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 07:49:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hans@artcom.de) Received: by artcom.de via sendmail with stdio id for freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 16:48:41 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 16:48:41 +0200 (CEST) From: hans@artcom.de (Hans Huebner) To: drifter@stratos.net Subject: Re: FreeBSD Linux emulation Newsgroups: artcom.mailing-list.freebsd.multimedia In-Reply-To: <19980604233228.A7626@stratos.net> References: <01bd8fbf$f4dea780$f820aace@eliot.pacbell.net> <199806041907.OAA02122@dyson.iquest.net> Organization: Art+Com GmbH, Berlin, Germany Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In article <19980604233228.A7626@stratos.net> you write: > Just out of curiosity, I noticed that when I run Adobe Acrobat >Reader or StarOffice under Linux emulation, drawing of pages (under >Acrobat) or toolbar icons (under StarOffice) seems to be painfully >slow. Acrobat reader uses font antialiasing, which is slow. I've switched it off, and now repaint times are quite acceptable. I doubt that Linux is faster w.r.t. antialiasing, please correct me if I'm wrong. (I'm using a Pentium 166, 64 MB RAM. Font aliasing is too slow even under NT on this machine). -Hans To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Jun 5 08:07:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA08894 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 08:07:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from miller.cs.uwm.edu (miller.cs.uwm.edu [129.89.139.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA08871 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 08:07:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from james@miller.cs.uwm.edu) Received: (from james@localhost) by miller.cs.uwm.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA22876; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 10:07:02 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 10:07:02 -0500 (CDT) From: Jim Lowe Message-Id: <199806051507.KAA22876@miller.cs.uwm.edu> To: mjh@east.isi.edu Subject: Re: Tick, tock, I need a fast clock... Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > From: Mark Handley > > >Are there any timers available to applications in FreeBSD faster than > >10ms? If not, is there a simple way to increase the interval timers > >minimal time to something like .1ms without adversely effecting system > >performance? > > I has the same requirement earlier this week. You can change the > value of HZ in /usr/src/sys/conf/param.c from the default value of 100 > to something larger and rebuild. My system is currently running with > this set to 1000, which allows interval timers using select of around > 2ms (why isn't it 1ms??). The system seems to run fine, but the > values measured for per-process CPU utilization by top (and presumably > other utilities) are low by an order of magnitude. Presumably this is > a bug in some of the kernel stats code. Do you know if this effects overall performance of the system? Does the scheduler run 10 times faster as well? I am not sure what is tied to the ``HZ'' clock (I suspect a lot of things). I would like to bump the clock to 10,000 or 100,000 to get better resolutions out of the timer routines -- but I don't know what else happens when you do this. I think 1ms vs 2ms is a POSIXism. If you specify 1ms, then you will get at a minimum 1ms, but you might get 2ms. This is also true if the clock is set at 100hz, you might get 20ms min delay. > > It does seem somewhat rediculous that HZ is still set to 100 by > default in these days of 400MHz processors. Yes, there should be timers available to at least the .1ms and even .01ms. Having 10ms being the smallest resolution is becoming a problem for some applications. -Jim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Jun 5 10:16:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA02541 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 10:16:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA02452 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 10:16:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA01679; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 10:16:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199806051716.KAA01679@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Jack Velte" cc: "John Matthews" , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: BT848 and newer versions of WinTV cards In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 05 Jun 1998 04:56:49 PDT." <01bd9079$05ae6640$c001aace@eliot.pacbell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 10:16:21 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org We don't have any software libraries to talk to the video capture sub-systems nor is the api fully documented. If you like to find out more about video capture for FreeBSD do a man meteor because we are almost fully compliant to the meteor video capture driver. I will probably start working on a programming guide for the Bt848 real soon. Cheers, Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Jun 5 10:24:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA04217 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 10:24:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA04088 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 10:23:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA01759; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 10:23:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199806051723.KAA01759@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Michael Gratton cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: reccomendations for a video camera In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 05 Jun 1998 18:22:39 +0930." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 10:23:43 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hauppauge sells a bt848/CCD camera combo for about $190. The CCD camera is supposed to be good. For more info : http://www.hauppauge.com/ Or lets hope that someone on the list will post their impression with Hauppauge's Bt848/CCD camera combo. Cheers, Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Jun 5 10:45:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA07662 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 10:45:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA07655 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 10:45:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA01825 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 10:45:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199806051745.KAA01825@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: http://www.freebsd.org/~ahasty/files/l879_a.pdf Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 10:45:31 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org For those only interested in low level Bt848 programming , the above is the Bt878/Bt879 databook . The Bt878/879 sports audio capture however no digital audio playback . This solution will open up full duplex audio solutions for all 8) Enjoy, Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Jun 5 12:01:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA21214 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 12:01:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from shell3.ba.best.com (root@shell3.ba.best.com [206.184.139.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA21199 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 12:00:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from schrade@schrade.com) Received: from localhost (schrade@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by shell3.ba.best.com (8.8.8/8.8.BEST) with SMTP id LAA00305; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 11:59:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 11:59:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Ken Krebs To: Michael Gratton cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: reccomendations for a video camera In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 5 Jun 1998, Michael Gratton wrote: >Hi people, > >What's a good PC camera to buy (black & white or color)? What software is >available out there? > >I want be able to capture both individual frames and full motion video. I would recommend getting the combo Hauppauge WinTV/Camera pack. It's only like $189.00 at Fry's Electronics here in the Bay Area. US Robotics also sells a similar pack around the same price with a BT848 card and camera (I use this at work just fine under 3.0-current) but the USR pack doesn't have a TV Tuner like tha Hauppauge does. The US Robotics package has a pretty decent camera with these buttons on it: Power on/off Contrast BLC on/off (Not sure what this is) White Balace fixed/auto IMAGE negative/positive It's a pretty solid little camera with a nice separate rubber base. FreeBSD-current recognizes the BT848 card as a Hauppauge card for some weird reason, though. It works great with vic and I've transmitted the Best Internet Fishcam to the MBone every once in a while using it ;) >Thanks.. >Mike. > >* Mike Gratton - mike@vee.net >! "I'd rather be anywhere doing anything" >$ http://www.vee.net/ > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message > *********** NewOrderDepecheModeUltravoxViolentFemmesKillingJoke ************* * Ken * NineInchNailsFront242TangerineDreamTheBreedersTekno * * * Krebs * SkinnyPuppyLaTourBauhausBookOfLoveModernEnglishB52s * * *********** FishBoneBigCountryJoyDivisonSiouxsie&TheBansheesXTC ************* IRC: Schrade E-Mail: schrade@schrade.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Jun 5 16:57:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA15484 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 16:57:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA15457 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 16:57:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ct.picker.com) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 19:56:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA05200; Fri, 5 Jun 98 19:56:08 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id TAA01784; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 19:56:00 -0400 Message-Id: <19980605195600.A1773@ct.picker.com> Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 19:56:00 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Roger Hardiman Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fxtv 0.47 released Mail-Followup-To: Roger Hardiman , multimedia@freebsd.org References: <19980601192220.A25402@ct.picker.com> <3574311E.446B@cs.strath.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <3574311E.446B@cs.strath.ac.uk>; from Roger Hardiman on Tue, Jun 02, 1998 at 06:06:38PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Roger Hardiman: |Well, the new tar file works fine (ie the rem_dev mouse). | |I notice that from /usr/ports when I do a make it does not pass |the HAVE_XFREE=NO string down to the gmake makefile. |Just a moan. But a good moan. I should have supported that. pkg_delete is nice for cleaning up stray program bits. Anyway, the port supports it now: tar -xozvf fxtv-0.47-port.tgz cd fxtv make HAVE_XFREE86=NO install I updated the port on the web page. It also has a correct MD5 file now (i.e. "makesum" isn't needed any longer). |Thanks for getting 0.47 released. No problem. Enjoy! Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Jun 5 17:35:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA20548 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 17:35:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA20541 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 17:35:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ct.picker.com) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 20:34:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA05922; Fri, 5 Jun 98 20:34:36 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id UAA01907; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 20:34:27 -0400 Message-Id: <19980605203427.C1773@ct.picker.com> Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 20:34:27 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Amancio Hasty Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Remote device multiplexing Mail-Followup-To: Amancio Hasty , multimedia@freebsd.org References: <19980602134354.A4551@ct.picker.com> <199806022030.NAA01724@rah.star-gate.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <199806022030.NAA01724@rah.star-gate.com>; from Amancio Hasty on Tue, Jun 02, 1998 at 01:30:15PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Amancio Hasty: |Sleep mode for Fxtv ? | |Just want to wakeup fxtv via my x10 remote control -- kind of like |a turn tv on remote control well coming to think about it |thats precisely what I want a "turn on tv x10 remote control command". Yeah, I thought about that too :-) After pondering a little I decided Fxtv was the was the wrong place to put it, and didn't have the time to implement the (IMO) "right" solution. That being, to have a "remoted" daemon that multiplexes remote events to multiple clients. That way you could share the remote between remote-aware applications. The remote clients would register with the remoted daemon (rather than moused), and remoted would connect to moused. One of those registered clients could be an application launcher, another one (possibly spawned by the launcher) could be Fxtv. Apps launched don't necessarily need to be mouse aware (e.g. netscape, etc.). Hot sequences on the remote would allow you to "select" a registered client (which would receive the bulk of the remote's key events while selected). Really, this'd be cool. Since these remotes work around 300Mhz and aren't line-of-site, you could be in a separate room hitting remote buttons which would fire off all kinds of tasks. Say, fire up your ISP link and grab your mail (which could play an audio file if you had any) or stock market quotes, etc. In your case, maybe play your voicemail for the day for you and let you delete/save/proceed while you take care of other things. Or maybe fire off Fxtv and grab a cool pic while watching a movie on the big TV in the other room. Would be a fun project for someone that has the time :-) Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Jun 5 17:47:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA22658 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 17:47:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA22653 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 17:47:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ct.picker.com) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 20:46:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA06123; Fri, 5 Jun 98 20:46:11 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id UAA01945; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 20:46:02 -0400 Message-Id: <19980605204602.D1773@ct.picker.com> Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 20:46:02 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk, freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, Doug White Subject: Re: fxtv - mmap of driver buffer failed Mail-Followup-To: richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk, freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, Doug White References: <24168.199806030144@cockburn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <24168.199806030144@cockburn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk>; from richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk on Wed, Jun 03, 1998 at 02:44:58AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk: |Having not looked at this for a long time, I just installed the 3.0 |SNAP 980520 and the fxtv 0.46 package that comes with it. Unless I |run it as root, I get the message "mmap of driver buffer failed: |Permission denied". What have I missed here? Doug White: |I think this is FXTV falling behind reality. It open /dev/bktr0 read-only |but requests read-write protections on the mmap()'d buffer. However this Hmm. I'm a little puzzled by this. This was resolved back when we were cutting the 2.2.6 release (circa March 22), thus the reason for patch-ab in the fxtv 0.46 port: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org\ /pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-current/ports/graphics/fxtv/patches/patch-ab which should be what the fxtv 0.46 pkg on the 980520 SNAP was built with. I guess there must be something I don't know about how packages are built for SNAPs. This patch should be built-in. Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Jun 5 17:59:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA24729 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 17:59:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA24704 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 17:59:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ct.picker.com) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 20:57:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA06317; Fri, 5 Jun 98 20:57:13 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id UAA01982; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 20:56:50 -0400 Message-Id: <19980605205650.E1773@ct.picker.com> Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 20:56:50 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Amancio Hasty , John Matthews Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, matthews@converg.com Subject: Re: BT848 and newer versions of WinTV cards Mail-Followup-To: Amancio Hasty , John Matthews , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, matthews@converg.com References: <199806040456.WAA00291@nethawk.converg.com> <199806041637.JAA02799@rah.star-gate.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV" X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <199806041637.JAA02799@rah.star-gate.com>; from Amancio Hasty on Thu, Jun 04, 1998 at 09:37:38AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Amancio Hasty: |It is easy to incorporate a new bt848/tuner if the driver does not |recognize the card/tuner. ... | {00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 02, 00, 00, 00} is |the output of sign available from http://www.freebsd.org/~ahasty/Bt848.html On a related note: To make it easier for folks to relay info on new cards, I incorporated EEPROM, sign, dmesg, sysctl, i2c, Xserver etcetc dumping capability into Fxtv 0.47. So if you've got Fxtv 0.47, just run: fxtv -debug startup and you'll get the whole boatload (sample below). Hope this helps. Randall --HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="fxtv-debug-startup.OUT" Fxtv v0.47 DETECTED CAPTURE CARD(S) [DRIVER PROBES]: bktr0: rev 0x11 int a irq 9 on pci0.11.0 Hauppauge WinCast/TV, Philips NTSC tuner, dbx stereo. SYSCTL MIB VALUES: kern.version: FreeBSD 3.0-971208-SNAP #0: Sat May 30 17:35:48 GMT 1998 rhh@stealth:/usr/src/sys/compile/WINCAST hw.bt848.card: -1 hw.bt848.tuner: -1 hw.bt848.reverse_mute: -1 hw.bt848.format: 1 TUNER SIGNATURE (0x01 - 0xff): 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 08 0a 00 00 00 TUNER I2C DEVICES FOUND AT: 0xa0, 0xb6, 0xc2, 0xc6 CAPTURE CARD EEPROM CONTENTS: Read 256 EEPROM bytes (0x00 - 0xff) 84 11 00 00 04 40 09 01 08 05 01 2f db 00 00 8c 02 00 00 00 84 0a 00 01 01 20 77 00 40 e6 13 03 00 77 02 01 03 03 43 16 19 79 a9 00 00 00 00 00 ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff 84 11 00 00 04 40 09 01 08 05 01 2f db 00 00 8c 02 00 00 00 84 0a 00 01 01 20 77 00 40 e6 13 03 00 77 02 01 03 03 43 16 19 79 a9 00 00 00 00 00 ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff Supported RGB Capture Pixel Formats: bpp Bpp RGB Masks Swap --- --- ---------------------------- ---- 15 2 00007c00, 000003e0, 0000001f NB 16 2 0000f800, 000007e0, 0000001f NB 24 3 00ff0000, 0000ff00, 000000ff B 24 4 00ff0000, 0000ff00, 000000ff NBWb Supported YUV Capture Pixel Formats: YUVSize HSamp VSamp Pack CompOrder T->B L->R YTrans ------- ----- ----- ------ --------- ---- ---- ------ 8,8,8 1,2,2 1,1,1 PLANAR YUV Y Y N 8,8,8 1,2,2 1,1,1 PACKED YUYV Y Y N 8,8,8 1,2,2 1,2,2 PLANAR YUV Y Y N XSERVER: 'The XFree86 Project, Inc' v3310, Protocol Verson 11.0 Screen Res = 1600x1280, DefDepth = 16; NumScreens = 1 Bitmap Unit/BitOrder/Pad = 32/LSBFirst/32, Image ByteOrder = LSBFirst XF86DGAQueryVersion() succeeded - vers = 1.00 BaseAddr = 0xe0000000, Pitch = 1600, BankSize/RamSize = 4194304/4194304 Rating Available Visuals: Rating Class bpp Bpp R,G,B Masks Swap DirectVid ------ ----------- --- --- ---------------------------- ---- --------- 5 TrueColor 16 2,2 0000f800, 000007e0, 0000001f -- Yes Default Visual is 16-bpp TrueColor XF86VidModeQueryVersion() succeeded - version = 0.08 --HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Jun 5 19:01:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA02272 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 19:01:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bleep.ishiboo.com (user3434@bleep.ishiboo.com [199.79.133.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA02259 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 19:01:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nirva@ishiboo.com) Received: (qmail 9250 invoked by uid 1000); 6 Jun 1998 03:04:24 -0000 Message-ID: <19980605220423.58039@bleep.ishiboo.com> Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 22:04:23 -0500 From: Danny Dulai To: Randall Hopper Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Remote device multiplexing References: <19980602134354.A4551@ct.picker.com> <199806022030.NAA01724@rah.star-gate.com> <19980605203427.C1773@ct.picker.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88 In-Reply-To: <19980605203427.C1773@ct.picker.com>; from Randall Hopper on Fri, Jun 05, 1998 at 08:34:27PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Quoting Randall Hopper (rhh@ct.picker.com): > Amancio Hasty: > |Sleep mode for Fxtv ? > | > |Just want to wakeup fxtv via my x10 remote control -- kind of like > |a turn tv on remote control well coming to think about it > |thats precisely what I want a "turn on tv x10 remote control command". > > Yeah, I thought about that too :-) After pondering a little I decided Fxtv > was the was the wrong place to put it, and didn't have the time to > implement the (IMO) "right" solution. > > That being, to have a "remoted" daemon that multiplexes remote events to > multiple clients. That way you could share the remote between remote-aware > applications. The remote clients would register with the remoted daemon > (rather than moused), and remoted would connect to moused. > > One of those registered clients could be an application launcher, another > one (possibly spawned by the launcher) could be Fxtv. Apps launched don't > necessarily need to be mouse aware (e.g. netscape, etc.). Hot sequences on > the remote would allow you to "select" a registered client (which would > receive the bulk of the remote's key events while selected). > > Really, this'd be cool. Since these remotes work around 300Mhz and aren't > line-of-site, you could be in a separate room hitting remote buttons which > would fire off all kinds of tasks. Say, fire up your ISP link and grab > your mail (which could play an audio file if you had any) or stock market > quotes, etc. In your case, maybe play your voicemail for the day for you > and let you delete/save/proceed while you take care of other things. Or > maybe fire off Fxtv and grab a cool pic while watching a movie on the big > TV in the other room. > > Would be a fun project for someone that has the time :-) Just placed order for my remote.. will work on this project once it gets here.. sounds like a lot of fun :) Any more ideas would be greatly appreciated.. -- ___________________________________________________________________________ Danny Dulai Feet. Pumice. Lotion. http://www.ishiboo.com/~nirva/ nirva@ishiboo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Jun 5 19:21:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA05512 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 19:21:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA05493 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 19:21:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ct.picker.com) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 22:20:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA07997; Fri, 5 Jun 98 22:20:52 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id WAA02377; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 22:20:45 -0400 Message-Id: <19980605222044.A2363@ct.picker.com> Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 22:20:44 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Danny Dulai Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Remote device multiplexing Mail-Followup-To: Danny Dulai , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG References: <19980602134354.A4551@ct.picker.com> <199806022030.NAA01724@rah.star-gate.com> <19980605203427.C1773@ct.picker.com> <19980605220423.58039@bleep.ishiboo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <19980605220423.58039@bleep.ishiboo.com>; from Danny Dulai on Fri, Jun 05, 1998 at 10:04:23PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Danny Dulai: |Quoting Randall Hopper (rhh@ct.picker.com): |> That being, to have a "remoted" daemon that multiplexes remote events to |> multiple clients. ... |> Would be a fun project for someone that has the time :-) | |Just placed order for my remote.. will work on this project once it gets |here.. sounds like a lot of fun :) | |Any more ideas would be greatly appreciated.. Cool! I look forward to plugging into it :-) Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Jun 5 19:45:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA08130 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 19:45:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA08118 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 19:45:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA03769; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 19:45:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199806060245.TAA03769@rah.star-gate.com> To: Danny Dulai cc: Randall Hopper , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, hasty@rah.star-gate.com Subject: Re: Remote device multiplexing In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 05 Jun 1998 22:04:23 CDT." <19980605220423.58039@bleep.ishiboo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <3766.897101107.1@rah.star-gate.com> Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 19:45:07 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sure lets use JACE or ACE to build the multiplexer . ACE and its Java counterpart where designed to for just this kind of scenario. ACE it is in a little bad shape right now however John is working out the kings in libc_r;however, JACE should do the job . Enjoy, Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Jun 5 21:02:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA15230 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 21:02:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA15190 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 21:02:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA04023; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 21:01:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199806060401.VAA04023@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Randall Hopper cc: John Matthews , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, matthews@converg.com Subject: Re: BT848 and newer versions of WinTV cards In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 05 Jun 1998 20:56:50 EDT." <19980605205650.E1773@ct.picker.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 21:01:56 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Most Cool! Tnks! Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Jun 5 21:05:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA15389 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 21:05:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from stratos.net (pm3-4-5.stratos.net [207.86.132.197]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA15383 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 21:05:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from drifter@stratos.net) From: drifter@stratos.net Received: (from drifter@localhost) by stratos.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) id AAA02238; Sat, 6 Jun 1998 00:02:19 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19980606000218.C1214@stratos.net> Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 00:02:18 -0400 To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD Linux emulation References: <01bd8fbf$f4dea780$f820aace@eliot.pacbell.net> <199806041907.OAA02122@dyson.iquest.net> <19980604233228.A7626@stratos.net> <19980605140808.58247@cons.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i Comment: Martin Cracauer , dyson@FreeBSD.ORG, Jack Velte -- intentionally cut out to avoid duplicate mail -- is this a waste of my time? In-Reply-To: <19980605140808.58247@cons.org>; from Martin Cracauer on Fri, Jun 05, 1998 at 02:08:08PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Jun 05, 1998 at 02:08:08PM +0200, Martin Cracauer wrote: > In <19980604233228.A7626@stratos.net>, drifter@stratos.net wrote: > > Just out of curiosity, I noticed that when I run Adobe Acrobat > > Reader or StarOffice under Linux emulation, drawing of pages (under > > Acrobat) or toolbar icons (under StarOffice) seems to be painfully > > slow. > > Maybe missing/not-recogized SysV shared memory to the X server? Interesting idea. I don't know much about SysV shared memory, but I know it is built into my kernel, and I /think/ my X-server recognizes MIT-SHM. (xdpyinfo reports info on what extensions are being used, with the apparent exception of that. It doesn't matter, since I wouldn't know what the hell it meant, anyway.) -- drifter@stratos.nospam.net (remove nospam to send) "Ever notice that in every commercial about the Internet, advertising geniuses can't resist having a bunch of kids staring into a monitor, awe- struck, looking at a whale jumping out of the ocean? Or is it just me?" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Jun 5 21:05:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA15434 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 21:05:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from stratos.net (pm3-4-5.stratos.net [207.86.132.197]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA15411 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 21:05:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from drifter@stratos.net) From: drifter@stratos.net Received: (from drifter@localhost) by stratos.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) id XAA02201; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 23:55:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19980605235509.B1214@stratos.net> Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 23:55:09 -0400 To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: jackv@earthling.net Subject: Re: FreeBSD Linux emulation References: <199806050654.BAA00629@dyson.iquest.net> <199806050816.BAA02555@rah.star-gate.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i Comment: Amancio's and John Dyson's To: addresses were intentionally cut out -- trying to avoid duplicate mail! (I can't be sure jackv is a regular mailing list subscriber...) In-Reply-To: <199806050816.BAA02555@rah.star-gate.com>; from Amancio Hasty on Fri, Jun 05, 1998 at 01:16:38AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Jun 05, 1998 at 01:16:38AM -0700, Amancio Hasty wrote: > Star Office runs reasonably well over here: > > FreeBSD 3.0 -current, PPro 200Mhz , 96MB of memory. > > Matrox Millenium 4MB > XFree86 3.3.1 > > color depth 16bit > resolution 1024x768 My system runs with 48M of memory on a Pentium 150, for what it's worth. I have an ATI Graphics Pro Turbo Mach64 graphics card with 2M of memory, running under the same resolution and color depth. As far as I'm concerned, that should be plenty of strength to run a word processing program. But -- hey! -- "vi" has served me well. -- drifter@stratos.nospam.net (remove nospam to send) "Ever notice that in every commercial about the Internet, advertising geniuses can't resist having a bunch of kids staring into a monitor, awe- struck, looking at a whale jumping out of the ocean? Or is it just me?" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Jun 5 23:32:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA01233 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 23:32:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cimlogic.com.au (cimlog.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.51.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA01228 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 23:32:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jb@cimlogic.com.au) Received: (from jb@localhost) by cimlogic.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.7) id QAA01014; Sat, 6 Jun 1998 16:34:25 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from jb) From: John Birrell Message-Id: <199806060634.QAA01014@cimlogic.com.au> Subject: Re: Remote device multiplexing In-Reply-To: <199806060245.TAA03769@rah.star-gate.com> from Amancio Hasty at "Jun 5, 98 07:45:07 pm" To: hasty@rah.star-gate.com (Amancio Hasty) Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 16:34:25 +1000 (EST) Cc: nirva@ishiboo.com, rhh@ct.picker.com, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, hasty@rah.star-gate.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Amancio Hasty wrote: > ACE it is in a little bad shape right now however John is working > out the kings in libc_r;however, JACE should do the job . The problem with ACE is that the C++ code that is generated by g++ version 2.7.2.1 (from current) is bogus. ACE declares destructors using thread specific keys. When the last of these destructors is called by libc_r from the _cleanup_specific function (as part of a thread exiting), it does not return to _cleanup_specific() where it should unlock the key table entry. Instead execution restarts in pthread_exit() as though _cleanup_specific() had returned. I don't see how I can program around that. Following all those pissy little functions that C++ creates is really annoying. The amount of shit that ACE is doing in that destructor call is amazing. It tries to do as much thread management as libc_r is doing. Ugh. This stuff really shouldn't be layered on top of POSIX threads. It should have it's own built in threads to avoid all the duplication of code. I guess I have to go to gcc 2.8.1 like the ACE web page says. -- John Birrell - jb@cimlogic.com.au; jb@freebsd.org http://www.cimlogic.com.au/ CIMlogic Pty Ltd, GPO Box 117A, Melbourne Vic 3001, Australia +61 418 353 137 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Jun 5 23:38:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA01720 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 23:38:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA01707 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 23:38:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA04875; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 23:37:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199806060637.XAA04875@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: John Birrell cc: nirva@ishiboo.com, rhh@ct.picker.com, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Remote device multiplexing In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 06 Jun 1998 16:34:25 +1000." <199806060634.QAA01014@cimlogic.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 23:37:33 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Cool, I am downloading gcc-2.8.1 right now Tnks a lot! Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Jun 6 03:30:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA18082 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jun 1998 03:30:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA18077 for ; Sat, 6 Jun 1998 03:30:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA05773; Sat, 6 Jun 1998 03:29:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199806061029.DAA05773@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: John Birrell cc: nirva@ishiboo.com, rhh@ct.picker.com, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Remote device multiplexing In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 06 Jun 1998 16:34:25 +1000." <199806060634.QAA01014@cimlogic.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 06 Jun 1998 03:29:56 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Two ideas: in cleanupspecific don't hold a lock while calling a destructor, save the destructor's address, free the thread specific, call the destructor. or don't allow recursive exits.. Cheers, Amancio > Amancio Hasty wrote: > > ACE it is in a little bad shape right now however John is working > > out the kings in libc_r;however, JACE should do the job . > > The problem with ACE is that the C++ code that is generated by g++ > version 2.7.2.1 (from current) is bogus. ACE declares destructors using > thread specific keys. When the last of these destructors is called > by libc_r from the _cleanup_specific function (as part of a thread > exiting), it does not return to _cleanup_specific() where it should > unlock the key table entry. Instead execution restarts in pthread_exit() > as though _cleanup_specific() had returned. I don't see how I can > program around that. > > Following all those pissy little functions that C++ creates is really > annoying. The amount of shit that ACE is doing in that destructor call > is amazing. It tries to do as much thread management as libc_r is doing. > Ugh. This stuff really shouldn't be layered on top of POSIX threads. > It should have it's own built in threads to avoid all the duplication > of code. > > I guess I have to go to gcc 2.8.1 like the ACE web page says. > > -- > John Birrell - jb@cimlogic.com.au; jb@freebsd.org http://www.cimlogic.com.au/ > CIMlogic Pty Ltd, GPO Box 117A, Melbourne Vic 3001, Australia +61 418 353 137 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Jun 6 07:29:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA07337 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jun 1998 07:29:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from whizzo.transsys.com (whizzo.TransSys.COM [144.202.42.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA07327 for ; Sat, 6 Jun 1998 07:29:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from louie@whizzo.transsys.com) Received: from whizzo.transsys.com (localhost.transsys.com [127.0.0.1]) by whizzo.transsys.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA18747; Sat, 6 Jun 1998 10:29:39 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199806061429.KAA18747@whizzo.transsys.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 X-Exmh-Isig-CompType: repl X-Exmh-Isig-Folder: inbox To: Amancio Hasty cc: Danny Dulai , Randall Hopper , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Louis A. Mamakos" Subject: Re: Remote device multiplexing References: <199806060245.TAA03769@rah.star-gate.com> In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 05 Jun 1998 19:45:07 PDT." <199806060245.TAA03769@rah.star-gate.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 06 Jun 1998 10:29:38 -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've got a simple session multiplexer gadget that I'm working on, done completely as a library in Tcl 8.0. It was inspired by the X-10 daemon that I'm using, but all in Tcl. My immediate requirement was to replace the dedicated program that looks at Caller-ID and call detail records from my small home PBX with a daemon that distributes these records to various interested parties. Currently, my pbx program simply installs records into a MySQL database. What I need to be able to do is have other daemons, such as a Tk application driving a display on a VGA/NTSC scan converter modulating channel 16. This way I can get real-time caller ID stuff to pop up while the phone is ringing without having to poll the database. I'm planning on rewriting the X10 daemon to use this Tcl library as well. Connecting the RF mouse/remote control to one of these session mux things as well will be very cool. As I said, I'm still hacking on it a bit, and it's not quite clean and not at all documented at the moment. The interesting thing is that the Tcl script library can be used to create a server listening on some port; you can also hand it any open filehandle (like a process on the end of a pipe, or another TCP connection) to be put into the session mix. So you can hook these things together pretty easily. louie To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Jun 6 13:57:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA20211 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jun 1998 13:57:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from top.worldcontrol.com (surf52.cruzers.com [205.215.232.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA20200 for ; Sat, 6 Jun 1998 13:57:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@worldcontrol.com) From: brian@worldcontrol.com Received: (qmail 7912 invoked by uid 100); 6 Jun 1998 19:58:13 -0000 Message-ID: <19980606125810.A7887@top.worldcontrol.com> Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 12:58:10 -0700 To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: fxtv 0.47 capturing frames with correct odd/even fields Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91i Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I reported previously that fxtv 0.46 captured video on my system with the even/odd fields reversed. I was not using direct writes. I was 'using XImages'. The reversed effect showed up on both the display and in saved PPM files. The field reversal is not happening in fxtv 0.47. fxtv 0.47 fixed a number of other small problems I experienced. I do get a core dump on exit, if I have done alot: Jun 6 03:14:13 bls2 /kernel: pid 18747 (fxtv), uid 101: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) -- Brian Litzinger To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Jun 6 15:23:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA29316 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jun 1998 15:23:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA29306 for ; Sat, 6 Jun 1998 15:23:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA11388; Sat, 6 Jun 1998 15:23:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199806062223.PAA11388@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: brian@worldcontrol.com cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: fxtv 0.47 capturing frames with correct odd/even fields In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 06 Jun 1998 12:58:10 PDT." <19980606125810.A7887@top.worldcontrol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 06 Jun 1998 15:23:42 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Can you tell us where fxtv is core dumping? I don't get any core dumps over here and I am using fxtv everyday. Regards, Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Jun 6 15:42:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA02544 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jun 1998 15:42:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA02534 for ; Sat, 6 Jun 1998 15:42:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ct.picker.com) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Sat, 6 Jun 1998 18:41:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA28085; Sat, 6 Jun 98 18:41:58 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id SAA05060; Sat, 6 Jun 1998 18:41:50 -0400 Message-Id: <19980606184150.A5041@ct.picker.com> Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 18:41:50 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: fxtv 0.47 capturing frames with correct odd/even fields Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org References: <19980606125810.A7887@top.worldcontrol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <19980606125810.A7887@top.worldcontrol.com>; from brian@worldcontrol.com on Sat, Jun 06, 1998 at 12:58:10PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org brian@worldcontrol.com: |fxtv 0.47 fixed a number of other small problems I experienced. Glad to hear it. |I do get a core dump on exit, if I have done alot: |Jun 6 03:14:13 bls2 /kernel: pid 18747 (fxtv), uid 101: exited on signal |11 (core dumped) If you have time, I'd be interested in a stack trace. To generate one, grab: http://multiverse.com/~rhh/fxtv/fxtv-0.47.tgz Decompress, and run: gmake DEBUG=YES Then run the generated "fxtv" binary. When it dumps, run gdb fxtv fxtv.core (gdb) where The output would be useful. Also, if you don't mind, just mail me your "fxtv" and the "fxtv.core" core file. My inbox can take it :-) Thanks, Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Jun 6 16:03:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA05652 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jun 1998 16:03:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA05585 for ; Sat, 6 Jun 1998 16:02:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ct.picker.com) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Sat, 6 Jun 1998 19:01:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA28400; Sat, 6 Jun 98 19:01:37 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id TAA05123; Sat, 6 Jun 1998 19:01:27 -0400 Message-Id: <19980606190127.A5107@ct.picker.com> Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 19:01:27 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Adam Ford , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CD ROM Audio, wcd0? Mail-Followup-To: Adam Ford , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG References: <19980531214017.A469@fordys.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <19980531214017.A469@fordys.net>; from Adam Ford on Sun, May 31, 1998 at 09:40:17PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Adam Ford: |Using the 'cdcontrol' program, running it by typing cdcontrol -f |/dev/wcd0a [tried wcd0c/wcd1a/wcd1c too, and made the devices]. | |I try and type play 01 This gives back : |cdcontrol: Input/output error ... |Ummmm, any more ideas? | |I'm all out, and I've run out of hair now!! ;) | |Any ideas greatly appreciated, I've just subscribed to this list, so |hopefully I'll get the reply :) You want: cdcontrol -f /dev/rwcd0c for workman, you want: workman -c /dev/rwcd0c -b Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Jun 6 16:09:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA06621 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jun 1998 16:09:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA06594 for ; Sat, 6 Jun 1998 16:09:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA11624; Sat, 6 Jun 1998 16:08:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199806062308.QAA11624@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: John Birrell cc: nirva@ishiboo.com, rhh@ct.picker.com, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Remote device multiplexing In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 06 Jun 1998 16:34:25 +1000." <199806060634.QAA01014@cimlogic.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 06 Jun 1998 16:08:58 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am going to send mail to the ACE group to see if they can fix the recursive exit problem that we are seeing over here. pthread exit is pthread_exit and thread's hex id start cleanup is cleanupspecific lock number is a key's access lock number clean destructor is when cleanupspecific calls a destructor clean return specific_data[key]) { data = (void *) _thread_run-> specific_data[key]; _thread_run-> specific_data[key] = NULL; _thread_run-> specific_data_count--; printf("clean destructor key %d data_count %d \n",key, _thread_run-> specific_data_count ); /* Unlock the key table entry: */ destructor = key_table[key].destructor; _atomic_unlock(&key_table[key]. access_lock); if (destructor) destructor(data); printf("clean return destructor \n"); } } else { /* Unlock the key table entry: */ _atomic_unlock(&key_table[key].access_lock); } } else { printf("cleanup exit %x \n", _thread_run); free(_thread_run->specific_data); _thread_run->specific_data = NULL; return; } I think is easier if the ACE group prevents the stupid recursive exit call. Cheers, Amancio {root} ./Task_Test pthread exit 8053400 start cleanup 8053400 lock 0 clean destructor key 0 data_count 1 clean return destructor lock 1 lock 2 clean destructor key 2 data_count 0 thr exit pthread exit 8053400 already exiting clean return destructor cleanup exit 8053400 locking the thread list for 8053400 : key[2].access 0 pthread exit 8053200 start cleanup 8053200 lock 0 clean destructor key 0 data_count 1 clean return destructor lock 1 pthread exit 8053800 start cleanup 8053800 lock 0 clean destructor key 0 data_count 1 clean return destructor lock 1 pthread exit 8053600 start cleanup 8053600 lock 0 clean destructor key 0 data_count 1 clean return destructor lock 1 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Jun 6 16:14:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA07184 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jun 1998 16:14:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cimlogic.com.au (cimlog.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.51.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA07166 for ; Sat, 6 Jun 1998 16:14:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jb@cimlogic.com.au) Received: (from jb@localhost) by cimlogic.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.7) id JAA02930; Sun, 7 Jun 1998 09:16:32 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from jb) From: John Birrell Message-Id: <199806062316.JAA02930@cimlogic.com.au> Subject: Re: Remote device multiplexing In-Reply-To: <199806062308.QAA11624@rah.star-gate.com> from Amancio Hasty at "Jun 6, 98 04:08:58 pm" To: hasty@rah.star-gate.com (Amancio Hasty) Date: Sun, 7 Jun 1998 09:16:32 +1000 (EST) Cc: jb@cimlogic.com.au, nirva@ishiboo.com, rhh@ct.picker.com, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Amancio Hasty wrote: > My take is that our pthread package can not handle recursive > pthread exits. I tried getting around this by adding a > an exit_flag to the thread structure and fixing the access lock > on the key table by relesing the lock before calling > the destructor however we get stuck somewhere else now: I think that the destructor needs to be called with the key entry unlocked (as you mentioned in mail yesterday). I am seeing this problem in one of my other tests - at least that's what I think it is. > I think is easier if the ACE group prevents the stupid recursive exit > call. I disagree. I think it is the only mechanism they have available to them other than "rm -rf $ACE_ROOT". 8-) Best not to send them mail just yet. -- John Birrell - jb@cimlogic.com.au; jb@freebsd.org http://www.cimlogic.com.au/ CIMlogic Pty Ltd, GPO Box 117A, Melbourne Vic 3001, Australia +61 418 353 137 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Jun 6 16:25:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA08320 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jun 1998 16:25:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA08315 for ; Sat, 6 Jun 1998 16:25:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA11748; Sat, 6 Jun 1998 16:24:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199806062324.QAA11748@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: John Birrell cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Remote device multiplexing In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 07 Jun 1998 09:16:32 +1000." <199806062316.JAA02930@cimlogic.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 06 Jun 1998 16:24:33 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Good Morning! While you sort out what is going on with ACE / pthread , I am peaking at smartgdb which is supposed to have hooks for threads . Do you know about smartgdb? Just thinking that if we have debugger support for thread programs that it would be easier to develop thread programs. http://hegel.ittc.ukans.edu/projects/smartgdb/download-sgdb.html#patch Regards, Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Jun 6 16:29:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA08803 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jun 1998 16:29:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cimlogic.com.au (cimlog.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.51.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA08781 for ; Sat, 6 Jun 1998 16:29:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jb@cimlogic.com.au) Received: (from jb@localhost) by cimlogic.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.7) id JAA02981; Sun, 7 Jun 1998 09:31:28 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from jb) From: John Birrell Message-Id: <199806062331.JAA02981@cimlogic.com.au> Subject: Re: Remote device multiplexing In-Reply-To: <199806062324.QAA11748@rah.star-gate.com> from Amancio Hasty at "Jun 6, 98 04:24:33 pm" To: hasty@rah.star-gate.com (Amancio Hasty) Date: Sun, 7 Jun 1998 09:31:28 +1000 (EST) Cc: jb@cimlogic.com.au, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Amancio Hasty wrote: > Good Morning! G'day. 8-) > While you sort out what is going on with ACE / pthread , I am peaking > at smartgdb which is supposed to have hooks for threads . Do you > know about smartgdb? Just thinking that if we have debugger support > for thread programs that it would be easier to develop thread programs. Never heard of it. gdb has hooks for threads too. I've worked on gdb before and I didn't enjoy it. I can always find something more interesting to do. -- John Birrell - jb@cimlogic.com.au; jb@freebsd.org http://www.cimlogic.com.au/ CIMlogic Pty Ltd, GPO Box 117A, Melbourne Vic 3001, Australia +61 418 353 137 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Jun 6 16:35:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA09500 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jun 1998 16:35:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA09475 for ; Sat, 6 Jun 1998 16:35:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA11826; Sat, 6 Jun 1998 16:34:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199806062334.QAA11826@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: John Birrell cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Remote device multiplexing In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 07 Jun 1998 09:31:28 +1000." <199806062331.JAA02981@cimlogic.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 06 Jun 1998 16:34:58 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Okay, I will take a look at smartgdb .. Regards, Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message