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> Coming to think about it . I am beginning to see your point :
> moused is unsuitable for our purposes and it will best to start
> a new with a well architected daemon which is capable of 
> providing multiple services from multiple input sources.

Actually, moused is quite amenable to the manipulation required to make 
it fully modular.  If you (generic) have the time to do it, nobody is 
going to complain.

Meanwhile, we have support for another peripheral.  Stop complaining 
and start helping.

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Nice Try!!

I am working on a new daemon and in fact I am coding it right now .

As for moused being a flexible modular daemon I disagree.


	Amancio

> > Coming to think about it . I am beginning to see your point :
> > moused is unsuitable for our purposes and it will best to start
> > a new with a well architected daemon which is capable of 
> > providing multiple services from multiple input sources.
> 
> Actually, moused is quite amenable to the manipulation required to make 
> it fully modular.  If you (generic) have the time to do it, nobody is 
> going to complain.
> 
> Meanwhile, we have support for another peripheral.  Stop complaining 
> and start helping.
> 
> -- 
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> \\  sometimes you're behind.      \\  mike@smith.net.au
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> \\  end it's only with yourself.  \\  msmith@cdrom.com
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> And it has NO business in moused whatsoever, its a hack and it doesn't
> belong there. I'm sorry I havn't noticed this before, but its should be
> ripped out ASAP, I would never have allowed it in there if I had
> found out before. 

Actually, no.  The MouseRemote is a mouse, amongst other things, and
it's specifically intended to be connected inline with mice.  As such,
our protocol handler for mouse data streams is the correct place to put
it.  Ripping it out without simultaneously coming up with an equally
functional and architecturally 'better' solution is not going to endear
you to anyone.

I did actually propose to Randall the implementation of a stackable 
'interception' layer, again to be managed by moused, however with only 
one device (so far) in this particular circumstance, it didn't seem 
worth the effort.

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> And about leaving, well, I'm afraid you guys will have to stick
> with me :), I'm going to shake this (FreeBSD) out as long as it 
> takes, or until somebody carries me out screaming :)

Good.  So I don't have to pull any punches.  8)

> On that note, I think we badly need a "house clean" through
> the entire system, especially the kernel, but also parts of
> userland, we have way to much crap in there because of not
> thinking things through before pulling the trigger. If my 12+
> years in this business has learned me anything its the 80/20
> rule: think it through for 80% of the time then use 20% of 
> the time to implement it correctly.

There hasn't been 12 years of communal software development at this 
level.  What there has been suggests to me that a better approach is to 
spend 5% of the time implementing it as quickly as possible.  65% of 
the time arguing about why the implementation sucks, 20% of the time on 
abortive reimplementations and then 10% on doing it better.

This 10% is then the leading 5% for the next iteration.

> Well, I probably wasn't on multimedia at that time, and that doesn't
> make the hack more "right", besides there is only so many things 
> you can keep an eye on..

The MouseRemote support is no better or worse than the support for 
other not-very-mouselike things that are already in there.  If you have 
time to design and implement a better, generic "input class" structure, 
be our guest.

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From owner-freebsd-multimedia  Sun Jun 21 15:25:34 1998
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> Nice Try!!
> 
> I am working on a new daemon and in fact I am coding it right now .

Care to discuss your design?  Having planned it all for Randall in the 
original MouseRemote design discussion, I've actually covered most of 
the issues already, and I'd be interested both in hearing what you were 
planning as well as sharing my work.

> As for moused being a flexible modular daemon I disagree.

I didn't say it was, I said it was amenable to being made that way.  

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In reply to Mike Smith who wrote:
> > And it has NO business in moused whatsoever, its a hack and it doesn't
> > belong there. I'm sorry I havn't noticed this before, but its should be
> > ripped out ASAP, I would never have allowed it in there if I had
> > found out before. 
> 
> Actually, no.  The MouseRemote is a mouse, amongst other things, and
> it's specifically intended to be connected inline with mice.  As such,
> our protocol handler for mouse data streams is the correct place to put
> it.  Ripping it out without simultaneously coming up with an equally
> functional and architecturally 'better' solution is not going to endear
> you to anyone.

Hmm.

> I did actually propose to Randall the implementation of a stackable 
> 'interception' layer, again to be managed by moused, however with only 
> one device (so far) in this particular circumstance, it didn't seem 
> worth the effort.

No but it would have been the right thing, now we have to defend moused
against every crude hack that comes along, because of precedence :(
It wouldn't have been THAT hard to do it right to begin with.
I'm still saying its wrong, and bad engineering....

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In reply to Mike Smith who wrote:
> > On that note, I think we badly need a "house clean" through
> > the entire system, especially the kernel, but also parts of
> > userland, we have way to much crap in there because of not
> > thinking things through before pulling the trigger. If my 12+
> > years in this business has learned me anything its the 80/20
> > rule: think it through for 80% of the time then use 20% of 
> > the time to implement it correctly.
> 
> There hasn't been 12 years of communal software development at this 
> level.  What there has been suggests to me that a better approach is to 
> spend 5% of the time implementing it as quickly as possible.  65% of 
> the time arguing about why the implementation sucks, 20% of the time on 
> abortive reimplementations and then 10% on doing it better.
> 
> This 10% is then the leading 5% for the next iteration.

Get real :)

> > Well, I probably wasn't on multimedia at that time, and that doesn't
> > make the hack more "right", besides there is only so many things 
> > you can keep an eye on..
> 
> The MouseRemote support is no better or worse than the support for 
> other not-very-mouselike things that are already in there.  If you have 
> time to design and implement a better, generic "input class" structure, 
> be our guest.

Why should I do all the work ?? :)

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In reply to Amancio Hasty who wrote:
> Nice Try!!
> 
> I am working on a new daemon and in fact I am coding it right now .

Cool!!, nice that somebody it listening...
Go for it!

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Is not ready for public review however if you are interested where
I am getting my inspiration , feel free to browse:

http://www.cs.wustl.edu/~schmidt/ACE.html

and it JAVA counterpart:

http://www.cs.wustl.edu/~schmidt/JACE.html

Lots of cool stuff there to build a flexible and dynamically configurable
daemon.

	Amancio



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> In reply to Mike Smith who wrote:
> > I did actually propose to Randall the implementation of a stackable 
> > 'interception' layer, again to be managed by moused, however with only 
> > one device (so far) in this particular circumstance, it didn't seem 
> > worth the effort.
> 
> No but it would have been the right thing, now we have to defend moused
> against every crude hack that comes along, because of precedence :(

That's my job, and I'm fully cognizant of that.

> It wouldn't have been THAT hard to do it right to begin with.

I tried; ask Randall.  Given the alternatives (insist on purity and get 
nothing or accept what we're given for now and push for better later), 
I felt that something was better than nothing.

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No problem and I am actually having a good time at it.


---------------

Say  Randall, can you pretty please approach the XFree86 team 
to see if they can somehow fold in the X10 remote mouse support
into the X server .

	Cheers,
	Amancio





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Quoting Mike Smith (mike@smith.net.au):
> > And it has NO business in moused whatsoever, its a hack and it doesn't
> > belong there. I'm sorry I havn't noticed this before, but its should be
> > ripped out ASAP, I would never have allowed it in there if I had
> > found out before. 
> 
> Actually, no.  The MouseRemote is a mouse, amongst other things, and
> it's specifically intended to be connected inline with mice.  As such,
> our protocol handler for mouse data streams is the correct place to put
> it.  Ripping it out without simultaneously coming up with an equally
> functional and architecturally 'better' solution is not going to endear
> you to anyone.
> 
> I did actually propose to Randall the implementation of a stackable 
> 'interception' layer, again to be managed by moused, however with only 
> one device (so far) in this particular circumstance, it didn't seem 
> worth the effort.

Right now, there is no way I can get the remote output that moused gives
to /var/run/MouseRemote, and still run other mice on moused, AND
having the remote's mouse functions disabled.

The mouse remote's rf receiver gets far too much interference and causes
my mouse pointer to jump around and buttons to be pressed randomly. The
remote is uesless without turning off the mouse support.

To solve this problem either add an option to moused to turn off mouse
messages (and rename moused to something better), or use the model I
suggested using remoted that splits mouse and remote events.

Randall has expierenced the problems I'm getting, and I assume most
others that have this remote do too. This is not a feature that '[isnt]
worth the effort', its a mandatory feature for functionality.

-- 
___________________________________________________________________________
Danny Dulai                                           Feet. Pumice. Lotion.
http://www.ishiboo.com/~nirva/                            nirva@ishiboo.com

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Just switch off the remote mouse at its junction box --- there is
a little switch so use it.

I am not sure that the remote mouse has any software functionality to 
disable itself .

	Amancio



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> I've had Quake2 (That is QUake2-3.13 with 3.14a and 3.15a
> subsequently expanded on top) fail with "bad system call" on
> -current from early April and on -current from about 5/20. 
> Just wondering if anyone has a fix for this. I've seen the same
> problem reported in the archives but didn't see a solution.
Hmm.. Do you have shared memory installed on your system?
I know Quake 2 uses shared mem when in X11 mode, and possibly uses it for GL 
rendering..

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> I got e-mail thrue the developers of the glide drivers for linsux and
> they told me that there were no plans to port the drivers to FreeBSD
> (i'm building a puter to run it and i'd get a monster3d card if there were
> drivers for it..)
Well, you can use the Linux ones.. 
They run fine under emulation, of course this means if you want to do 
developement for it you have to install the linux_devel port, and compile with 
that. 

But hey it actually works, since I have Quake 1 & 2 running on my machine :)

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Daniel O'Connor wrote:

> > I got e-mail thrue the developers of the glide drivers for linsux and
> > they told me that there were no plans to port the drivers to FreeBSD
> > (i'm building a puter to run it and i'd get a monster3d card if there were
> > drivers for it..)
> Well, you can use the Linux ones..
> They run fine under emulation, of course this means if you want to do
> developement for it you have to install the linux_devel port, and compile with
> that.
>
> But hey it actually works, since I have Quake 1 & 2 running on my machine :)

Hey, thats groovy!I had wondered if that would work but doubted it because they
were drivers.. but cool..
looks like I'll be gettin a Monster3d card hehe

Micah

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> > I've had Quake2 (That is QUake2-3.13 with 3.14a and 3.15a
> > subsequently expanded on top) fail with "bad system call" on
> > -current from early April and on -current from about 5/20. 
> > Just wondering if anyone has a fix for this. I've seen the same
> > problem reported in the archives but didn't see a solution.


On Mon, 22 Jun 1998, Daniel O'Connor wrote:
> Hmm.. Do you have shared memory installed on your system?

If having "options SYSVSHM" in my kernel accomplishes that, then
the answer is yes.

> I know Quake 2 uses shared mem when in X11 mode, and possibly uses it for GL 
> rendering..
> 
Just for more info:
-I am just trying to get it working on X11, not GL-Quake. 
-I have tried specifying "+set vid_ref softx", but that didn't help. 
-I updated my -current again recently (Fri. 6/19), but that didn't
help either. I didn't really think it would.
-If it helps, while my xterm says "bad system call", the console
says "/kernel: pid 7517 (quake2), uid 65535: exited on signal 12"

Thanks.

Greg


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> > Hmm.. Do you have shared memory installed on your system?
> If having "options SYSVSHM" in my kernel accomplishes that, then
> the answer is yes.
Hmm.. OK.. Pitty about that because I thought that would be it :)

> -I am just trying to get it working on X11, not GL-Quake. 
> -I have tried specifying "+set vid_ref softx", but that didn't help. 
> -I updated my -current again recently (Fri. 6/19), but that didn't
> help either. I didn't really think it would.
> -If it helps, while my xterm says "bad system call", the console
> says "/kernel: pid 7517 (quake2), uid 65535: exited on signal 12"
OK... Do you have a sound card in your computer? If you don't, then Q2 won't 
work (!) The q2test works fine, but the full game doesn't..

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Hi,

Here is a nice web page explaining how to get Quake and Quake 2 going 
on FreeBSD:
http://www.schrade.com/sanctum/freebsd/

My original notes on how to get Quake2 going:

ftp://rah.star-gate.com/pub/README.GLQUAKE

The web site supercedes my notes.

	Have Fun,
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> -I am just trying to get it working on X11, not GL-Quake. 
> -I have tried specifying "+set vid_ref softx", but that didn't help. 
> -I updated my -current again recently (Fri. 6/19), but that didn't
> help either. I didn't really think it would.
> -If it helps, while my xterm says "bad system call", the console
> says "/kernel: pid 7517 (quake2), uid 65535: exited on signal 12"
Hmm.. another thing.. My Linux emulator was compiled from source checked out 
on the 28th of April 1998, so you might want to try that (ie just recompile 
the Linux LKM - tho that might break, I'm not sure)

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Greg, 

Can you run ktrace ./quake2 
kdump -m 80 >quake.trace

and towards the end of the file try to find the offending system call.

	Tnks,
	Amancio



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> You got me wrong here, moused should have no pipes/sockets/etc
> interfaces, it shall have exactly what it needs and that is the
> device/devices of the mouse hw. If you need a deamon for a new
> device (and I see a X10-remote-anything as a new device) you 
> should write one, not try to bend an old one into shape...

Just be careful where you take this one; it's a sliding scale of greys 
from everything standalone (which for the cascaded MouseRemote case 
would reek) through to Streams in user-space.

It seems that Amancio has again abandoned his "solution" partway, so 
let me elaborate on a stacked pointer-interface model which I 
originally devised to deal with Randall's original suggestion.  It owes 
a little to Streams and a lot to dlopen().

In the new model, moused serves as a framework for modules related to 
auxiliary input devices, specifically those whose operational domain 
may overlap that of the primary pointing device.  This should primarily 
involve managing a single input source, which may have more than one 
layer of protocol embedded within it.

A combination of manual and automatic configuration serves to build a
stack of processing modules.  Configuration would include active
discovery (COM PnP, traditional mouse probes, perhaps delayed
protocol-sensitive determination - the first two we have, the third
might serve as an elaborate technique for avoiding manual
configuration).  Modules are, naturally, separate objects dynamically
loaded and unloaded as required.

Protocol data are passed into the top of the stack, where it ripples
down, and is possibly passed out sideways either to a module-specific
endpoint or to the standard 'pointer event stream' which is consolidated
and passed to the console driver (etc.) as it is currently.

This is a highly generalised design, and one which would facilitate the 
rapid production of new modules to handle auxiliary input devices.  It 
is, of course, overkill in the current situation.

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> Right now, there is no way I can get the remote output that moused gives
> to /var/run/MouseRemote, and still run other mice on moused, AND
> having the remote's mouse functions disabled.
> 
> The mouse remote's rf receiver gets far too much interference and causes
> my mouse pointer to jump around and buttons to be pressed randomly. The
> remote is uesless without turning off the mouse support.
>
> To solve this problem either add an option to moused to turn off mouse
> messages (and rename moused to something better), or use the model I
> suggested using remoted that splits mouse and remote events.
> 
> Randall has expierenced the problems I'm getting, and I assume most
> others that have this remote do too. This is not a feature that '[isnt]
> worth the effort', its a mandatory feature for functionality.

Drivers should, as a general rule, cater to hardware that is working 
correctly.  If you have a decent general-purpose heuristic that helps 
with a given failure mode, that's one thing, but attempting to kluge 
around hardware that is failing in a completely random fashion is 
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If you want the split, we can talk about the modular architecture I 
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> > You got me wrong here, moused should have no pipes/sockets/etc
> > interfaces, it shall have exactly what it needs and that is the
> > device/devices of the mouse hw. If you need a deamon for a new
> > device (and I see a X10-remote-anything as a new device) you 
> > should write one, not try to bend an old one into shape...
> 
> Just be careful where you take this one; it's a sliding scale of greys 
> from everything standalone (which for the cascaded MouseRemote case 
> would reek) through to Streams in user-space.
> 
> It seems that Amancio has again abandoned his "solution" partway, so 

Boy, Mike you belong on the Press 8)

I am working  on a daemon however I still think that fxtv should gets
its mouse support from the X server and not necessarily from a 
moused thingy 8)

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> I am working  on a daemon however I still think that fxtv should gets
> its mouse support from the X server and not necessarily from a 
> moused thingy 8)

If there's a mechanism for passing abstract/custom (non-mouse, 
non-keyboard) events in to the server where they may be discarded or 
consumed at the whim of a requesting application, sure. 

Bear in mind that the MouseRemote pipe is for MouseRemote controls only,
not "normal" mouse events.

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>Just be careful where you take this one; it's a sliding scale of greys 
>from everything standalone (which for the cascaded MouseRemote case 
>would reek) through to Streams in user-space.

Actually, one of the models I am contemplating is user Space Streams 8)

Again, as Michael has stated these types of architectures are an overkill
for the case of the moused daemon however it can pave the way for 
what I hope exciting new daemon type services.

This is a short code snippet from JACE's BufferStreamTest.java and with
JACE's ASX we can exploit very easily prioritized messages.




// Spawn off a new thread.

public class BufferStreamTest
{
  public static void main (String args[])
  {
    // Control hierachically-related active objects
    Stream stream = new Stream ();
    Module pm = new Module ("Consumer", new Consumer (), null, null);
    Module cm = new Module ("Producer", new Producer (), null, null);

    // Create Producer and Consumer Modules and push them onto the
    // STREAM.  All processing is performed in the STREAM.

    if (stream.push (pm) == -1)
      {
	ACE.ERROR ("push");
	return;
      }
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      {
	ACE.ERROR ("push");
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>If there's a mechanism for passing abstract/custom (non-mouse, 
The short answer is yes.


>Bear in mind that the MouseRemote pipe is for MouseRemote controls only,
>not "normal" mouse events

I think that for fxtv we should try to convert the "X10 Mouse Remote " events
to X events.

	Cheers,
	Amancio



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I have been trying to get RealAudio encoder to work but no success,
raencoder always coredump on live input.

When I run 'raencoder -l line -o outfile -T 1:00' it coredumps just the
way it does if I run 'raencoder -Z config.file -o outfile -l line', but
leaving out the '-l line' the encoder runs ok.

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Hello I need an NT device capture driver for my card PCTV. I Have an MCI =
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On Sun, Jun 21, 1998 at 09:37:05PM -0700, Mike Smith wrote:
>> I am working  on a daemon however I still think that fxtv should gets
>> its mouse support from the X server and not necessarily from a 
>> moused thingy 8)
>
>If there's a mechanism for passing abstract/custom (non-mouse, 
>non-keyboard) events in to the server where they may be discarded or 
>consumed at the whim of a requesting application, sure. 

I have no idea what these events might be (I haven't been following this
very closely), but if they are generated by an input device and don't
really match the standard pointer or keyboard then maybe the XInput
extension might be useful at the X server end?

David

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I think that we can map the X10 remote mouse events to anything
that we want for the sake of general X event handling
it would be nice if we can map the mouse events to X events however
I am not so sure given that we have support for only one IR 
unit or rather a mouse with more than 15 buttons so lets just
say many buttons 8)


Randall has done the hard part which is decoding the mouse events
from the X10 Remote Mouse since Randall wrote the decoding routine
I am sure he can elaborate on the protocol. If you are interested
in following the code it is available in -current's moused.c or 
if you like I can mail you moused.c

	Tnks!
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On Mon, Jun 22, 1998 at 01:28:03AM -0700, Amancio Hasty wrote:
>I think that we can map the X10 remote mouse events to anything
>that we want for the sake of general X event handling
>it would be nice if we can map the mouse events to X events however
>I am not so sure given that we have support for only one IR 
>unit or rather a mouse with more than 15 buttons so lets just
>say many buttons 8)

The X protocol imposes some limits on the core input devices (keyboard
and pointer).  The core pointer can have no more than five buttons, and
only X and Y movement.  The core keyboard can have up to 247 (or 248)
keys.  These are hard limits imposed by the client/server communcation
protocol.

The XInput extension extends considerably what sort of events an input
device can generate, but of course for a client to use them it must
be XInput-aware.

>Randall has done the hard part which is decoding the mouse events
>from the X10 Remote Mouse since Randall wrote the decoding routine
>I am sure he can elaborate on the protocol. If you are interested
>in following the code it is available in -current's moused.c or 
>if you like I can mail you moused.c

To be honest, I don't have the time to be interested in the details
at the moment.  I was just suggesting that if you want to deal with
this using X events it might be worth taking a look at the XInput
extension to see if it will allow the sort of things you want (and I
don't really know if it will or not).  XFree86 3.3.2 does have some
XInput device support currently for some tablets, a touch screen and a
joystick.

The XFree86 mouse code is currently maintained by Kazutaka Yokata
(who was already on the CC list).  If XInput looks like it might be
useful and you want to follow it up, I can put you in touch with one of
the people who maintains our XInput support.

David

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Sorry we can't help you this is a FreeBSD Forum (Unix).

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Should we be sending the FCC numbers of the Bt848 cards to
Amancio?

Most PC hardware has the FCC approval number on.
>From the FCC web site, it is possible to search the FCC database
on this number and find the Manufacturer and their Address.

This may help with some of the no-name Bt848 cards and make it
easier to suggest tuner defaults.

Roger

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Amancio

For the bt848 card identification effort, I've put the details of one
of my Dual Crystal cards below.
Although it is currently detected fine by the driver, this will
help if a move is made to the new card signture method.

Notes:
The i2c bus reposnds to all i2c addresses with 0.
(hence my function check_for_i2c_devices() in the bt848 driver)

1. Brand
VideoLogic Captivator PCI

Silk Screen says PV-BT848 (Rev 2F)
Label says PV93B-A/W8729
No FCC number.
Contains both 35.4 and 28.6 crystals
Chip is Bt949AKPF

2. Tuner component part number
NONE - Tunerless

3. output of fxtv-0.47 -debug startup

> fxtv -debug startup
Warning: locale not supported by C library, locale unchanged
Fxtv v0.47

DETECTED CAPTURE CARD(S) [DRIVER PROBES]:
    bktr0: <BrookTree 848> rev 0x12 int a irq 18 on pci0.13.0
    Intel Smart Video III/VideoLogic Captivator PCI, <none> tuner.

SYSCTL MIB VALUES:
    kern.version: FreeBSD 3.0-980311-SNAP #42: Thu May 21 17:46:41 BST
1998
        roger@posh.dmem.strath.ac.uk:/usr/src/sys/compile/posh_smp
    
    hw.bt848.card: -1
    hw.bt848.tuner: -1
    hw.bt848.reverse_mute: -1

TUNER SIGNATURE (0x01 - 0xff):
    ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff

TUNER I2C DEVICES FOUND AT:
    0x00, 0x02, 0x04, 0x06, 0x08, 0x0a, 0x0c, 0x0e, 0x10, 0x12, 0x14,
0x16, 0x18, 0x1a, 0x1c, 0x1e, 0x20, 0x22, 0x24, 0x26, 0x28, 0x2a, 0x2c,
0x2e, 0x30, 0x32, 0x34, 0x36, 0x38, 0x3a, 0x3c, 0x3e, 0x40, 0x42, 0x44,
0x46, 0x48, 0x4a, 0x4c, 0x4e, 0x50, 0x52, 0x54, 0x56, 0x58, 0x5a, 0x5c,
0x5e, 0x60, 0x62, 0x64, 0x66, 0x68, 0x6a, 0x6c, 0x6e, 0x70, 0x72, 0x74,
0x76, 0x78, 0x7a, 0x7c, 0x7e, 0x80, 0x82, 0x84, 0x86, 0x88, 0x8a, 0x8c,
0x8e, 0x90, 0x92, 0x94, 0x96, 0x98, 0x9a, 0x9c, 0x9e, 0xa0, 0xa2, 0xa4,
0xa6, 0xa8, 0xaa, 0xac, 0xae, 0xb0, 0xb2, 0xb4, 0xb6, 0xb8, 0xba, 0xbc,
0xbe, 0xc0, 0xc2, 0xc4, 0xc6, 0xc8, 0xca, 0xcc, 0xce, 0xd0, 0xd2, 0xd4,
0xd6, 0xd8, 0xda, 0xdc, 0xde, 0xe0, 0xe2, 0xe4, 0xe6, 0xe8, 0xea, 0xec,
0xee, 0xf0, 0xf2, 0xf4, 0xf6, 0xf8, 0xfa, 0xfc, 0xfe
ioctl(BT848_REEPROM) failed: Input/output error

CAPTURE CARD EEPROM CONTENTS:
   Read 0 EEPROM bytes 
ioctl(BT848_SAUDIO, 128) failed: Input/output error

Supported RGB Capture Pixel Formats:
   bpp  Bpp  RGB Masks                     Swap
   ---  ---  ----------------------------  ----
    15   2   00007c00, 000003e0, 0000001f  NB  
    16   2   0000f800, 000007e0, 0000001f  NB  
    24   3   00ff0000, 0000ff00, 000000ff   B  
    24   4   00ff0000, 0000ff00, 000000ff  NBWb

Supported YUV Capture Pixel Formats:
   YUVSize  HSamp  VSamp  Pack    CompOrder  T->B  L->R  YTrans
   -------  -----  -----  ------  ---------  ----  ----  ------
    8,8,8   1,2,2  1,1,1  PLANAR  YUV         Y     Y      N
    8,8,8   1,2,2  1,1,1  PACKED  YUYV        Y     Y      N
    8,8,8   1,2,2  1,2,2  PLANAR  YUV         Y     Y      N


XSERVER: 'Xi Graphics, Inc.' v4100,  Protocol Verson 11.0
         Screen Res = 1152x864, DefDepth = 24; NumScreens = 2
         Bitmap Unit/BitOrder/Pad = 32/LSBFirst/32, Image ByteOrder =
LSBFirst


Rating Available Visuals:
   Rating  Class        bpp  Bpp  R,G,B Masks                   Swap 
DirectVid
   ------  -----------  ---  ---  ----------------------------  ---- 
---------
     4     TrueColor     24  4,4  00ff0000, 0000ff00, 000000ff   --     
No 
     0     DirectColor   24  4,4  00ff0000, 0000ff00, 000000ff   --     
No 
     4     TrueColor     24  4,4  00ff0000, 0000ff00, 000000ff   --     
No 
Default Visual is 24-bpp TrueColor


4. output of sign.c

signature contents, 0x01 thru 0xff:

 ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff
 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 b0 72 07 20
 fc 51 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00


i2c device found @ 
 0x00
 0x02
 0x04
 0x06
 0x08
 0x0a
 0x0c
 0x0e
 0x10
 0x12
 0x14
 0x16
 0x18
 0x1a
 0x1c
 0x1e
 0x20
 0x22
 0x24
 0x26
 0x28
 0x2a
 0x2c
 0x2e
 0x30
 0x32
 0x34
 0x36
 0x38
 0x3a
 0x3c
 0x3e
 0x40
 0x42
 0x44
 0x46
 0x48
 0x4a
 0x4c
 0x4e
 0x50
 0x52
 0x54
 0x56
 0x58
 0x5a
 0x5c
 0x5e
 0x60
 0x62
 0x64
 0x66
 0x68
 0x6a
 0x6c
 0x6e
 0x70
 0x72
 0x74
 0x76
 0x78
 0x7a
 0x7c
 0x7e
 0x80
 0x82
 0x84
 0x86
 0x88
 0x8a
 0x8c
 0x8e
 0x90
 0x92
 0x94
 0x96
 0x98
 0x9a
 0x9c
 0x9e
 0xa0
 0xa2
 0xa4
 0xa6
 0xa8
 0xaa
 0xac
 0xae
 0xb0
 0xb2
 0xb4
 0xb6
 0xb8
 0xba
 0xbc
 0xbe
 0xc0
 0xc2
 0xc4
 0xc6
 0xc8
 0xca
 0xcc
 0xce
 0xd0
 0xd2
 0xd4
 0xd6
 0xd8
 0xda
 0xdc
 0xde
 0xe0
 0xe2
 0xe4
 0xe6
 0xe8
 0xea
 0xec
 0xee
 0xf0
 0xf2
 0xf4
 0xf6
 0xf8
 0xfa
 0xfc
 0xfe





There we go.
Bye
Roger

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Amancio,

Here is the card signature details for the older VideoLogic
Captivator PCI card.
This older revision returns ABSENT for all i2c addresses.

1. Brand
Video Logic Captivator PCI

Chip BT848KPF
FCC ID HWC10I89
Has both 35 and 28 crystals

2. Tuner
NONE

3. FXTV
Warning: locale not supported by C library, locale unchanged
Fxtv v0.47

DETECTED CAPTURE CARD(S) [DRIVER PROBES]:
    bktr0: <BrookTree 848> rev 0x11 int a irq 18 on pci0.13.0
    Intel Smart Video III/VideoLogic Captivator PCI, <none> tuner.

SYSCTL MIB VALUES:
    kern.version: FreeBSD 3.0-980311-SNAP #42: Thu May 21 17:46:41 BST
1998
        roger@posh.dmem.strath.ac.uk:/usr/src/sys/compile/posh_smp
    
    hw.bt848.card: -1
    hw.bt848.tuner: -1
    hw.bt848.reverse_mute: -1

TUNER SIGNATURE (0x01 - 0xff):
    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

TUNER I2C DEVICES FOUND AT:
   
ioctl(BT848_REEPROM) failed: Input/output error

CAPTURE CARD EEPROM CONTENTS:
   Read 0 EEPROM bytes 
ioctl(BT848_SAUDIO, 128) failed: Input/output error

Supported RGB Capture Pixel Formats:
   bpp  Bpp  RGB Masks                     Swap
   ---  ---  ----------------------------  ----
    15   2   00007c00, 000003e0, 0000001f  NB  
    16   2   0000f800, 000007e0, 0000001f  NB  
    24   3   00ff0000, 0000ff00, 000000ff   B  
    24   4   00ff0000, 0000ff00, 000000ff  NBWb

Supported YUV Capture Pixel Formats:
   YUVSize  HSamp  VSamp  Pack    CompOrder  T->B  L->R  YTrans
   -------  -----  -----  ------  ---------  ----  ----  ------
    8,8,8   1,2,2  1,1,1  PLANAR  YUV         Y     Y      N
    8,8,8   1,2,2  1,1,1  PACKED  YUYV        Y     Y      N
    8,8,8   1,2,2  1,2,2  PLANAR  YUV         Y     Y      N


XSERVER: 'Xi Graphics, Inc.' v4100,  Protocol Verson 11.0
         Screen Res = 1152x864, DefDepth = 24; NumScreens = 2
         Bitmap Unit/BitOrder/Pad = 32/LSBFirst/32, Image ByteOrder =
LSBFirst


Rating Available Visuals:
   Rating  Class        bpp  Bpp  R,G,B Masks                   Swap 
DirectVid
   ------  -----------  ---  ---  ----------------------------  ---- 
---------
     4     TrueColor     24  4,4  00ff0000, 0000ff00, 000000ff   --     
No 
     0     DirectColor   24  4,4  00ff0000, 0000ff00, 000000ff   --     
No 
     4     TrueColor     24  4,4  00ff0000, 0000ff00, 000000ff   --     
No 
Default Visual is 24-bpp TrueColor

4. SIGN.Csignature contents, 0x01 thru 0xff:

 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 b0 72 07 20
 fc 51 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00


i2c device found @ 

(There are none)



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Roger

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Does anyone have the PC with multiple(2,3, or 4...) Bt848 Cards?

I am now planning the following PC.

CPU:     Pentium II 400MHz
Mem:     128MB or ....
Bt848:   Wincast/TV x (?)

I want to have Bt848(or 849) cards as many as possile.
And I am planning the watching  multiple TV channels at the same time.

(Although I'm not sure that multiple processes can treat DGA mode 
at the same time...)

If there is anyone, I wait for your advise.


Tadashi Okoshi
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On Mon, Jun 22, 1998 at 09:05:25PM +0900, Tadashi Okoshi wrote:
> Does anyone have the PC with multiple(2,3, or 4...) Bt848 Cards?
> 
> I am now planning the following PC.
> 
> CPU:     Pentium II 400MHz
> Mem:     128MB or ....
> Bt848:   Wincast/TV x (?)
> 
> I want to have Bt848(or 849) cards as many as possile.
> And I am planning the watching  multiple TV channels at the same time.

I suspect that this won't work well due to too little bandwidth on the
PCI bus, but I'm not certain.  I'd be surprised if more than 2 cards
work at the same time as your harddisk.

Eivind.

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I've edited and combined the correspondence on this.

On Mon, 22 Jun 1998, Daniel O'Connor wrote:
[Snip]

> OK... Do you have a sound card in your computer? If you don't, then Q2 won't 
> work (!) The q2test works fine, but the full game doesn't..
Yup, Soundblaster. dmesg and some audio ports (splay, timidity,
auplay..) indicate it works.

>Hmm.. another thing.. My Linux emulator was compiled from source checked out 
>on the 28th of April 1998, so you might want to try that (ie just recompile 
>the Linux LKM - tho that might break, I'm not sure)

OK, thanks. I'm on my way to work now but could try that tonight.



On Mon, 22 Jun 1998, Amancio Hasty wrote:
>
>Hi,
>
>Here is a nice web page explaining how to get Quake and Quake 2 going 
>on FreeBSD:
>http://www.schrade.com/sanctum/freebsd/
>
>My original notes on how to get Quake2 going:
>
>ftp://rah.star-gate.com/pub/README.GLQUAKE
>
>The web site supercedes my notes.
>
>	Have Fun,
>	Amancio

Same as above. Will have to wait.


>Can you run ktrace ./quake2 
>kdump -m 80 >quake.trace
>
>and towards the end of the file try to find the offending system call.
>
>	Tnks,
>	Amancio

kdump produces a 2.5 MB file, so I'm hoping this is all you need.
I guess the last two lines of the file are the ones. Here's 10
(out of 50,000) for context.

7999 quake2   RET   read 8192/0x2000
7999 quake2   CALL  read(0xa,0x285f6000,0x2000)
7999 quake2   GIO   fd 10 read 8192 bytes
    "\^[\^_\M^M\M^_\^[\M-u\^[-\^\//\^[\^B\^\//\^[-\M-v\^\/\M-u\\.\^]/\M-u\\\
    //\^\]-\^]/\M^^\^[\^[].\M^M\^A\^]\M^^/\^]\^]\^^/\M^L\^A\^^\M^M.\\\^A\
    \^]\M^_\^\.\M^M\M^_\M^M\M-v]\^A\^A\M^M]]]\^B/\M^^/\M-u\^[\M^L\M-v\^]"
7999 quake2   RET   read 8192/0x2000
7999 quake2   CALL  close(0xa)
7999 quake2   RET   close 0
7999 quake2   CALL  #91(0x285f6000,0x2000)
7999 quake2   RET   #91 0
7999 quake2   CALL  setdomainname
7999 quake2   PSIG  SIGSYS SIG_DFL

Thanks again, both of you.

Greg


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On Sat, 20 Jun 1998 drifter@stratos.net wrote:

> 	ARRRGGHHH!  All that time carefully crafting my letter and
> I got the wrong audio device.  In fact, I did mean /dev/audio2, and
> that, unfortunately, did *not* work.
> 	In fact, my hands are very tired from constantly testing
> all audio devices with combinations like:
> 
> 	# rm /dev/audio
> 	# ln -s /dev/audio1 /dev/audio
> 	# cat audio.au > /dev/audio
> 	<PCM error>
> 	# rm /dev/audio
> 	# ln -s /dev/audio2 /dev/audio
> 	# cat audio.au > /dev/audio
> 	<PCM error>
> 	...ad naseum!
> 	:(
> 
> 	Unfortunately, this is not turning out to be a typical
> device/link problem...

I have an SB16 that I use with FreeBSD daily.  All Making it work required
was editing sound_config.h (as the LINT kernel directs you to do),
building the kernel with the appropriate controller and device directives, 
and doing a MAKEDEV in /dev once the new kernel was in place.

Jamie Bowden

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Tadashi,
> 
> Does anyone have the PC with multiple(2,3, or 4...) Bt848 Cards?

Yes. I have 3 Bt848 cards in my machine.
1 Hauppauge WinTV card
2 Videologic Captivator PCI cards.

> And I am planning the watching  multiple TV channels at the same time.

Make sure you get three identical cards as the bt848 driver
assumes all Bt848 cards have the same make of tuner.
I only use cameras so the tuner type did not matter to me.

> (Although I'm not sure that multiple processes can treat DGA mode
> at the same time...)

The new version of FXTV supports multiple Bt848 cards and they can
both do DGA at the same time from what I can remember.
use the fxtv -deviceNumber 0 and
fxtv -deviceNumber 1 settings.


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I did take a quick look at the web page suggested by Amancio. Looks
like my problem is that I had COMPAT_LINUX in my kernel. It seems
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Tadashi Okoshi writes:
> Does anyone have the PC with multiple(2,3, or 4...) Bt848 Cards?

Along that same line of thought, how about multiple sound cards? Looking
at /usr/src/sys/i386/isa/sound/pcm86.c doesn't suggest the driver is
structured for more than one card per system. Additionally this appears
to drive a nail in the multi-card coffin for pcm:

/* PC-9801-86 specific constants */
#define PCM86_IOBASE    0xa460  /* PCM I/O ports */

Possibly there are other cards which might support more than one per 
system? /dev/MAKEDEV is structured correctly for multiple sound cards.

The idea being tossed around at work is to link sites with up to 8
conference sessions using vat but rather than place up to 40 vat systems
(one per user) at a site we'd like just one system per site with all 8
sessions statically started, connected to an analog switch matrix
allowing the users to select their desired conference as needed.

If i can't get multiple sound channels out of one box, then I'll need up
to 8 boxes.

The other head scratcher: can left and right channels of a sound card
(input and output) be treated independently? See where I'm going? One
vat conference on the left channel, another on the right, cut the sound
card count in half.

Another alternative would involve a number of really small diskless, no
monitor, no keyboard, "embedded" FreeBSD boxes, one per user. Needs
sound card and ethernet. Customized vat. Probably read the user's
"channel" switch thru a parallel printer port. I like this solution best
but there is a space problem and an analog audio distribution network
already exists.


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Dear roger,

Thank you for your comment.
And I have a question.

roger> Make sure you get three identical cards as the bt848 driver
roger> assumes all Bt848 cards have the same make of tuner.
roger> I only use cameras so the tuner type did not matter to me.

Why?
When there are 3 (bt848 + Tuner) Cards, aren't there 3 bktr devices
and there tuner(? sorry I'm not sure exactly) devices?  
And we can tune there 3 tuners individually, can't we?



Tadashi Okoshi
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> >If there's a mechanism for passing abstract/custom (non-mouse, 
> The short answer is yes.
> 
> 
> >Bear in mind that the MouseRemote pipe is for MouseRemote controls only,
> >not "normal" mouse events
> 
> I think that for fxtv we should try to convert the "X10 Mouse Remote " events
> to X events.

Sure, presuming that there is a way to get these events into the X 
server, and out again into the application.  First blush suggests that 
this is nontrivial, and requires changing the X server.  Ick.

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On Mon, Jun 22, 1998 at 11:13:08PM +0900, Tadashi Okoshi wrote:
> Dear roger,
> 
> Thank you for your comment.
> And I have a question.
> 
> roger> Make sure you get three identical cards as the bt848 driver
> roger> assumes all Bt848 cards have the same make of tuner.
> roger> I only use cameras so the tuner type did not matter to me.
> 
> Why?
> When there are 3 (bt848 + Tuner) Cards, aren't there 3 bktr devices
> and there tuner(? sorry I'm not sure exactly) devices?  
> And we can tune there 3 tuners individually, can't we?

Not with OVERRIDE_TUNER or the sysctl's.  It works if your card is
correctly auto-detected.

Eivind.


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Hi,
	I am looking for a program to read audio CD for IDE/ATAPI drives.
I have come across tosha, but it only works with SCSI drives.  Any help
will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Ada


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Currently, there is a small deficiency in the bt848 driver when it fails
to recognized the tuner properly however if the driver recognizes the
tuners then there is no problem with the driver talking to 3 different
tuners.

	Cheers,
	Amancio



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> I did take a quick look at the web page suggested by Amancio. Looks
> like my problem is that I had COMPAT_LINUX in my kernel. It seems
> to be working now.
Ahh... hmmm.. anyone have a reason why COMPAT_LINUX still exists? :)

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From: Doug White <dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu>
To: drifter@stratos.net
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Subject: Re: SB16 doesn't work with either Voxware or PnP...
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On Sat, 20 Jun 1998 drifter@stratos.net wrote:

> 	| IRQ                       05              |
> 	| Direct Memory Access      01              |
>         | Direct Memory Access      03              |
> 	| I/O Range                 0220-022F       |
> 	| I/O Range                 0330-0331       |
>         | I/O Range                 0388-038B       |

Reference noted.

> 	Listed devices in Multimedia:
> 
> 	Device		Driver	IRQ	DRQ	Port	Flags
> 	------		------	---	---	----	-----
> 	SB PCM		sb0	5	1	0x220	<none listed>
> 	SB 16		sbxvi0	-	-	-	<none listed>
> 	SB Midi		sbmidi0	-	3	0x330	<none listed>
> 	OPL-2/3		opl0	-	-	0x388	<none listed>

The MIDI port shouldn't have a DRQ, and the SB16 should.  

This is what my old voxware setup looked like in my kernel:

device	sb0     at isa? port 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 vector sbintr
device  sbxvi0  at isa? drq 5
device  sbmidi0 at isa? port 0x330
device  opl0    at isa? port 0x388

All you need to do is substitute drq 3 for dr5 on the sbxvi line to get it
running properly.
> 	# playmidi midi.mid
> 	open /dev/sequencer: Device not configured
> 	( I tried relinking /dev/sequencer to /dev/sequencer{1,2,3},
>           since the pcm's were being assigned numbers higher than 0,
> 	  but none of them worked.)

I noted this to Luigi at USENIX so hopefully we can get this thing fixed
before 3.0.  There's a comparison in MAKEDEV that applies only for the
VoxWare case but not for the pcm driver.

> 	I've been at this for a while, and I have run out of ideas. Just
> to reemphasize, this is not a SoundBlaster Wannabe or near-Compatable.
> This is the Real Deal, but doesn't seem to want to play ball.

My config was for an original AWE32, which was a SB16+ASP with the EMU6000
hanging off the back.  The original was before PnP.

Doug White                              | University of Oregon  
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I don't know how I lost track of my attempts to solve my
"bad system call" problem with Quake2, but my previous post
suggested that all I needed to do was unpack the Quake sources and
remove COMPAT_LINUX from my kernel. That is not true. I also needed
to apply linux.diffs.tar.gz from http://www.schrade.com/sanctum/freebsd.
One hunk did not apply cleanly to my -current sources from Fri.
6/19, but I tried running Quake2 anyway, and it seems to be
working. Just wanted to clear that up.

As usual, the FreeBSD lists were very helpful. Special thanks to
Amancio Hasty and Daniel O'Connor for their help.

Now, if I only had adequate hardware to run this game.

Hmmm. Makes me think about buying some stuff.

Take care all.

Greg



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David Kelly:
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 |to 8 boxes.

You could use multiple sound cards per system.  Some cards support this.
Fxtv will let you specify which dsp and mixer device to control.

Randall

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Randall Hopper writes:
> David Kelly:
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>  |to 8 boxes.
> 
> You could use multiple sound cards per system.  Some cards support this.
> Fxtv will let you specify which dsp and mixer device to control.

Ok, which cards? Its important that not only is each card selectable,
but all cards have to be able to be usable at the same time. There has
been some discussion that Sound Blaster sometimes can barely do full
duplex under the right conditions. So its not hard to believe two Sound
Blasters in one machine won't perform.

Only sound (voice) in/out is required, no synthesis.

One might guess a new PCI sound card would work. But it appears at least
some are emulating ISA on PCI, eliminating the advantages of PCI.


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Hi,

COMPAT_LINUX is used to include the linux emulation layer in the kernel.

In this scenario what the users need to know is that after updating or
modifying the linux layer they need to rebuild the kernel, install
install it and reboot.

	Cheers,
	Amancio



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Changing the board to a Miro PCTV suddenly solve the audio problem... 
Recognized at the first hit, no problem since now...

Finally I can stop to see only b/w film of the twenties (which haven't
the audio at all :-)

If Amancio needs info of this board too (PCTV) I can send them to him 
...

Thanks again to everyone...




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I'm looking to purchase a video capture board for use in a FreeBSD box.
This board will be used to grap real-time images from a video player for
storage on a file system (for subsequent image manipulation).

I've done some searching and found the following boards:

STB TVPCI
MiroMEDIA PCTV
Hauppauge WinTV

Does anyone know if any/all of these boards will work under FreeBSD 3.0?

Thanks,
-A.

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On Tue, Jun 23, 1998 at 02:46:52PM -0400, AARON MARKS wrote:
> I'm looking to purchase a video capture board for use in a FreeBSD box.
> This board will be used to grap real-time images from a video player for
> storage on a file system (for subsequent image manipulation).
> 
> I've done some searching and found the following boards:
> 
> STB TVPCI
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> 
> Does anyone know if any/all of these boards will work under FreeBSD 3.0?

All of these are supposed to work; you can certainly get all them to
work with a little twiddling.

I have a MiroMEDIA PCTV which works out of the box.  However, there is
not support for the "Pro" part yet (NICAM + radio).  I've been probing
to get this area working, but there is nothing solid yet (and I won't
set a deadline for when I'll be finished - too much to do on other
fronts).

Eivind.


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> Now, if I only had adequate hardware to run this game.
> Hmmm. Makes me think about buying some stuff.
3Dfx cards make Quake 2 look very nice =)

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> COMPAT_LINUX is used to include the linux emulation layer in the kernel.
Heh.. oops.. You can tell I wasn't thinking when I asked that ;)

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The latest Glide stuff for Linux has support for Voodoo Rush and an X server 
for the Rush as well. Sources to the X server are available. Also the new 
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Anyone wanting to do the port? Check out the following URL -

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	Stephen


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Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 13:30:30 +0200 (CEST)
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In reply to Stephen Hocking-Senior Programmer PGS Tensor Perth who wrote:
> 
> The latest Glide stuff for Linux has support for Voodoo Rush and an X server 
> for the Rush as well. Sources to the X server are available. Also the new 
> glide stuff supports /dev/3dfx, and has sources for the Linux kernel driver. 
> Anyone wanting to do the port? Check out the following URL -
> 
> 	http://glide.xxedgexx.com/3DfxRPMS.html

Hmm, are you sure one doesn't need the SDK to compile/link the Xserver??
I think we still need the Glide libs to do this...
If everything is there - get me a 3dfx card :)

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In article <6modfv$pe$1@al.imforei.apana.org.au> you wrote:

> Ok, which cards? Its important that not only is each card selectable,
> but all cards have to be able to be usable at the same time. There has
> been some discussion that Sound Blaster sometimes can barely do full
> duplex under the right conditions. So its not hard to believe two Sound
> Blasters in one machine won't perform.

> Only sound (voice) in/out is required, no synthesis.

> One might guess a new PCI sound card would work. But it appears at least
> some are emulating ISA on PCI, eliminating the advantages of PCI.

 Hmm... given the application you are looking (basically providing some
 sort of analog-voice circuit to digital bridge perhaps you could look
 at some of the brooktrout type cards that can take 4/8 pstn/analog
 voice circuits etc... these babies are used for voicemail systems and
 the like and are designed to do the grunty stuff..

 We have a old 486dx33 running OS/2 1.2 (no gui) with 4 of these cards
 giving 16 voice circuits access to voicemail .. it does all the PCM stuff
 and the 300mb drive can store hours and hours of messages...

 peter

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Hey all - on an SMP current box as of 6/15/98 running Luigi's pcm sound
driver, game sounds seem to be about 15 seconds behind the screen updates. 
This happens on xgal and on doom.

The sound card is a CS4236 I believe - built in to my motherboard.

Any help?

Thanks...

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Hi,

re: the recently committed vic patch, Amancio suggested to use two
different fd's to talk to the grabber and the tuner (the patch
committed uses a single fd, and a locally patched brooktree driver).

Good suggestion, so I will try to come up with a fix in the next
few days, if someone does not beat me (the fix is trivial, just
need to do a second open on the tuner device; the only annoying
part is mapping /dev/bktr%d into /dev/tuner%d ).

In the meantime, can people try out the x11 grabber and tell me how it
works and if they have suggestions on how to improve it (or even better
implement things :)

One of the nice app of the x11 grabber i did last month was the
following:

   +==========================+
   H                          H
   H         Netscape         H
   +==========================+
   H                          H
   H    web document          H
   H                          H
   H                          H
   H                          H
   H                tvtvtv    H
   H                tvtvtv    H
   H                tvtvtv    H
   H                          H
   +==========================+

and have the grabber transmit both the window "web document" and the
small "tv" window showing live video (80x60 or so).

I guess i'll have to make the grabber to work with magicpoint as
well...

	cheers
	luigi
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email: luigi@iet.unipi.it    |  Universita' di Pisa
tel: +39-50-568533           |  via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy)
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David Kelly:
 |Randall Hopper writes:
 |> David Kelly:
 |>  |If i can't get multiple sound channels out of one box, then I'll need up
 |>  |to 8 boxes.
 |> 
 |> You could use multiple sound cards per system.  Some cards support this.
 |> Fxtv will let you specify which dsp and mixer device to control.
 |
 |Ok, which cards? Its important that not only is each card selectable,
 |but all cards have to be able to be usable at the same time. There has
 |been some discussion that Sound Blaster sometimes can barely do full
 |duplex under the right conditions. So its not hard to believe two Sound
 |Blasters in one machine won't perform.

Can't speak to which ones.  Joao Carlos Mendes Luis <jonny@coppe.ufrj.br>
is one of the folks (or "the" folk) that asked for soundcard selectability,
so you might buzz him.

Really, you don't even need a soundcard unless you want to digitize the
incoming audio, or you want to use a soundcard mixer control to adjust the
volume.  The TV cards (mine at least) kick out std line impedance audio so
you can plug that into your stereo directly if desired or an external audio
mixer/multiplexer.

Randall

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AARON MARKS:
 |STB TVPCI
 |MiroMEDIA PCTV
 |Hauppauge WinTV

All should.  I see Eivind spoke up for the Miro.  The STB and Hauppauge are
also well supported as they were the second and third cards that the driver
supported (after the Intel SVR3).  

Based on past posts to this list, the Hauppauge is the better quality board
of the two.  That's what I have (Hauppauge Wincast TV/dbx) and works fine
on FBSD3.0.

Randall

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Hi,

i've purchased a second hand MiroMedia PCTV card, which runs smoothly
with 2.2.6-STABLE.
With the card i also got MiroMedia remote, which is a remote control
module that connects to a serial port and seems to be similar to what
i know of the X10 remote control unit (except that the X10 module
seems to be based on radio, not on infrared as miroMedia remote is ).

Anyone knows/uses this product or got further details on it ?  

bye, alex
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After installing fxtv v. 0.47 and the latest bktr driver on my FreeBSD
2.2.6 system, I get good video but absolutely no audio.

I'm using Forefront Technology's OSS audio system with an Audio PCI card
and haven't had any other sound related problems.

The TV card is the one that Gateway OEMs -- Windows lists it as an STB
card with no information about the tuner.  I have to manually override
the card & tuner settings, using "STB" for the card and "PHILLIPS-NTSC"
for the tuner.  (BTW, when I don't override the settings, bktr0
erroneously detects my card as an Intel card and can't determine the
tuner).

I've tried all the card and tuner settings, anyway, with no luck on the
audio.  There is no line out jack on this TV card -- it's connected inside
the box to the on-motherboard AudioPCI.  Also made sure all my mixer
settings were set high (including 'video' and 'line1'...)

Does anyone have any suggestions??  I'm more than willing to experiment
but I just don't know that much about device drivers...

Thanks a lot!!
Steve Lin


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Hello, I'm Nozomu Matsui, Master Student of KEIO University.

Now, I'm trying to update bt848 driver(to bt848.980519.tgz). But this
archieve files doesn't include "opt_bktr.h" files required by
brooktrr848.c.

I've searching this file, but I can't get yet.
I hope you to teach the place, please.


-
Please forgive me for my rude english.
Nozomu MATSUI

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Nozomu,

To generate opt_bktr.h you need to add the following line
to  /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/options.i386

BROOKTREE_SYSTEM_DEFAULT   opt_bktr.h


Roger

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On Thu, Jun 25, 1998 at 06:07:20PM +0900, Nozomu Matsui wrote:
> 
> Hello, I'm Nozomu Matsui, Master Student of KEIO University.
> 
> Now, I'm trying to update bt848 driver(to bt848.980519.tgz). But this
> archieve files doesn't include "opt_bktr.h" files required by
> brooktrr848.c.
> 
> I've searching this file, but I can't get yet.
> I hope you to teach the place, please.

It is automatically generated by config(8) in
sys/compile/<YOUR-KERNEL-NAME>/

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Randall Hopper writes:
> Can't speak to which ones.  Joao Carlos Mendes Luis <jonny@coppe.ufrj.br>
> is one of the folks (or "the" folk) that asked for soundcard selectability,
> so you might buzz him.
> 
> Really, you don't even need a soundcard unless you want to digitize the
> incoming audio, or you want to use a soundcard mixer control to adjust the
> volume.  The TV cards (mine at least) kick out std line impedance audio so
> you can plug that into your stereo directly if desired or an external audio
> mixer/multiplexer.

For this application we are looking for up to 8 channels of in/out, all
running at once. The Brooktrout reference somebody provided appears to
be our best option to date. At the moment someone else is digging up the
particulars as to how much the Brooktrout solution costs.


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#define quoting(David Kelly)
// Randall Hopper writes:
// [...]
// > Can't speak to which ones.  Joao Carlos Mendes Luis <jonny@coppe.ufrj.br>
// > is one of the folks (or "the" folk) that asked for soundcard selectability,
// > so you might buzz him.
// 
// I was asking about multiple sound cards in one FreeBSD box on the 
// freebsd-multimedia list when your name came up.
// 
// Do you know which soundcards work more than one at once in a FreeBSD 
// system? Or in any PC system?

First and most important, you MUST use Luigi's driver, pcm, and
avoid voxware.

Using his driver, I think that any combination supported by the
hardware is possible.  In particular, I have a GUS PnP and a SB16
in my home machine:

...
Probing for PnP devices:
CSN 1 Vendor ID: GRV0001 [0x0100561e] Serial 0xffffffff
mss_attach <GusPnP>1 at 0x348 irq 5 dma 3:7 flags 0x17
pcm1 (GusPnP <GusPnP> sn 0xffffffff) at 0x348 irq 5 drq 3 flags 0x17 id 16
Probing for devices on the ISA bus:
...
sio1: type 16550A
pcm0 at 0x220 irq 7 drq 1 flags 0x15 on isa
aha0 at 0x334-0x337 irq 11 drq 6 on isa
...

My biggest problem was to find a good combination of DRQs and IRQs.  
To finally achieve a result, I had to overlap IRQ7 between SB16 and 
lpt0.  In FreeBSD, lpt0 is registered without interrupts.  In 
DOS/Winblows, I must not play a sound on the SB16 while printing.  :)


// --
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// ========================================================================
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					Jonny

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Hi folks,

	I have had a couple of GUS MAX's for ages.  I don't often use them
so I can't say when support for them broke, but the 2.2.6 voxware drivers
seem to be pretty broken. 

	I can throw the boards in a windoze PC and make them work, but
under 2.2.6 I get no sound and some syslog messages.  Here's the snippet
from the syslog:

> gus0 at 0x220 irq 12 drq 6 flags 0x3 on isa
> gus0: <Gravis UltraSound 2.4 (512k)>
> isa_dmastart: channel 6 not acquired
> isa_dmastart: channel 6 not acquired
> isa_dmastart: channel 6 not acquired
> isa_dmastart: channel 6 not acquired

	The isa_dmastart messages occur everytime I try to cat an .au file
to /dev/audio.  I looked into the sound dirver source and it looks like
the above message was meant to be included in a "#ifdef DIAGNOSTICS"
section.  In fact the driver doesn't appear to acquire the DMA chanel at
all.  The only acquired ISA DMA channel on  my system is the floppy, drq
2.

	Has anyone gont a MAX working under 2.2.6?  

	Adrian
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>>>>> ADRIAN Filipi-Martin writes:

 > Hi folks,
 > 	I have had a couple of GUS MAX's for ages.  I don't often use them
 > so I can't say when support for them broke, but the 2.2.6 voxware drivers
 > seem to be pretty broken. 

 > 	I can throw the boards in a windoze PC and make them work, but
 > under 2.2.6 I get no sound and some syslog messages.  Here's the snippet
 > from the syslog:

 >> gus0 at 0x220 irq 12 drq 6 flags 0x3 on isa
 >> gus0: <Gravis UltraSound 2.4 (512k)>
 >> isa_dmastart: channel 6 not acquired
 >> isa_dmastart: channel 6 not acquired
 >> isa_dmastart: channel 6 not acquired
 >> isa_dmastart: channel 6 not acquired

 > 	The isa_dmastart messages occur everytime I try to cat an .au file
 > to /dev/audio.  I looked into the sound dirver source and it looks like
 > the above message was meant to be included in a "#ifdef DIAGNOSTICS"
 > section.  In fact the driver doesn't appear to acquire the DMA chanel at
 > all.  The only acquired ISA DMA channel on  my system is the floppy, drq
 > 2.

Possibly a wrong combination of drq and flags (should not the dma
channel be 0, 1, or 3?)

 > 	Has anyone gont a MAX working under 2.2.6?  

Mine works under -current:
gus0 at 0x220 irq 11 drq 6 on isa
snd0: <GUS MAX (CS4231A)> snd0: <Gravis UltraSound MAX (512k)> 

You may also need "option NOGUSPNP" in your config file.

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On Thu, 25 Jun 1998, Jean-Marc Zucconi wrote:

> >>>>> ADRIAN Filipi-Martin writes:
> 
>  >> gus0 at 0x220 irq 12 drq 6 flags 0x3 on isa
>  >> gus0: <Gravis UltraSound 2.4 (512k)>
>  >> isa_dmastart: channel 6 not acquired

> 
> Possibly a wrong combination of drq and flags (should not the dma
> channel be 0, 1, or 3?)
> 
>  > 	Has anyone gont a MAX working under 2.2.6?  
> 
> Mine works under -current:
> gus0 at 0x220 irq 11 drq 6 on isa
> snd0: <GUS MAX (CS4231A)> snd0: <Gravis UltraSound MAX (512k)> 
> 
> You may also need "option NOGUSPNP" in your config file.

	I'll try this tonight.

	I am a little concearned that my cards probe as UltraSound's
instead of MAX's.  Could you send me your kernel config entry?  

thanks,

	Adrian
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>>>>> ADRIAN Filipi-Martin writes:

 > 	I am a little concearned that my cards probe as UltraSound's
 > instead of MAX's.  Could you send me your kernel config entry?  

options         NOGUSPNP
controller      snd0
device          gus0    at isa? port 0x220 irq 11 drq 6 vector gusintr

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Hi all.

I've been thinking about an improvement to the bt848 driver.
The same could be made to the meteor driver too.

I'd like to grab from a sub-section of the video image.
This allows the software pan and zoom functions you can get with
a fixed camera with a wide angle lense.

Currently, the bt848 driver captures the full NTSC (or PAL) image
and scales it down to the desired image size, say 192x128 pixels.

+----------+
|aaaaaaaaaa|
|aaaaaaaaaa| to +---+     FULL NTSC to 192x128
|aaaaaaaaaa|    |aaa|
|bbbbbbbbbb|    |bbb|
|bbbbbbbbbb|    +---+
|bbbbbbbbbb|
+----------+

I would like to grab a sub-portion of the NTSC (or PAL) window
and optionally scale that.
So, I could grab a real 192x128 chunk from say the bottom left corner of
the video image.

+----------+
|aaaaaaaaaa|
|b+--+ bbbb| to +---+     SMALL WINDOW FROM NTSC to 192x128
|c|cc| cccc|    |ccc|
|d+--+ dddd|    +---+
|eeeeeeeeee|
+----------+


Now all these things can be performed by grabbing a full image and
then copying the parts you need. However, the hardware still
has to cope with moving a full video image around.


For the bt848 this needs some new IOCTLS and changes to the
dma_progs.

Any comments on this?

Roger Hardiman
Strathclyde Uni Telepresence Group
this would

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On Fri, 26 Jun 1998, Jean-Marc Zucconi wrote:

> >>>>> ADRIAN Filipi-Martin writes:
> 
>  > 	I am a little concearned that my cards probe as UltraSound's
>  > instead of MAX's.  Could you send me your kernel config entry?  
> 
> options         NOGUSPNP
> controller      snd0
> device          gus0    at isa? port 0x220 irq 11 drq 6 vector gusintr

	Still no go.  Has anyone been using the MAX under 2.2.6 instead of
-current?  I think I may just throw in a SB16 for the next few months.

	The GUS support under 2.2.6 looks like it has problems.  In any
case, as I read the code, the isa_dmastart message is going to happen 100%
of the time whether things are working or not.  isa_dmaacquire is never
called.

thanks,

	Adrian
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Actually, remember, the mremap() syscall? This is the one tripping up
Quake 2; someone posted a fix, and since then I've spent the time hand-patching
it into my source tree after any linux emu change; don't you think it
would be nice to put this into the tree permanently?

-Brian


> Hi,
> 
> COMPAT_LINUX is used to include the linux emulation layer in the kernel.
> 
> In this scenario what the users need to know is that after updating or
> modifying the linux layer they need to rebuild the kernel, install
> install it and reboot.
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> 	Cheers,
> 	Amancio
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These work great, and should be committed (whoever made the original
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On Fri, Jun 26, 1998 at 11:01:41AM +0100, Roger Hardiman wrote:
> Hi all.
> 
> I've been thinking about an improvement to the bt848 driver.
> The same could be made to the meteor driver too.
> 
> I'd like to grab from a sub-section of the video image.
[...]
> Now all these things can be performed by grabbing a full image and
> then copying the parts you need. However, the hardware still
> has to cope with moving a full video image around.
> 
> For the bt848 this needs some new IOCTLS and changes to the
> dma_progs.
> 
> Any comments on this?

I think it sounds like a good capability to use, if it can be done
without totally re-structuring the driver (or you're offering to both
do the work and coordinate with everybody else that work on the driver
:-)

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> These work great, and should be committed (whoever made the original
> patch, step forward, good job).

These aren't a "full" mremap implementation by any stretch of the 
imagination, but they probably should be committed as a bandaid.

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Okay, I don't really understand FreeBSD's underlying structure as much as
I'd like yet, and namely I'm working on figuring out syscalls (and ioctl
;) now; I don't proclaim to know whether these patches will completely
implement mremap or not, but at least it seems to provide the ability to
run one more Linux app correctly, so barring any huge problems with these
patches, I think that we should try them out (after all, deltas can always
be backed out".

my->name 	= 	"Brian Feldman";
my->email	=	"brianfeldman@hotmail.com";
my->info 	= 	finger("green@feldman.dyn.ml.org");

On Fri, 26 Jun 1998, Mike Smith wrote:

> > These work great, and should be committed (whoever made the original
> > patch, step forward, good job).
> 
> These aren't a "full" mremap implementation by any stretch of the 
> imagination, but they probably should be committed as a bandaid.
> 
> -- 
> \\  Sometimes you're ahead,       \\  Mike Smith
> \\  sometimes you're behind.      \\  mike@smith.net.au
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> \\  end it's only with yourself.  \\  msmith@cdrom.com
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Subject: when is a bt848 not a bt848?
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Hi,

I just put a brand-new Hauppauge WinTV Model 401 into my 
FreeBSD box.  It has a TV tuner, dbx, and FM.

Unfortunately, it is not detected by bktr_probe().  

Oddly enough, the reported device ID does not match the 848 or 849:

found-> vendor=0x109e, dev=0x036e, revid=0x02
        class=04-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=1
        intpin=a, irq=3
        map[0]: type 3, range 32, base fedfe000, size 12
found-> vendor=0x109e, dev=0x0878, revid=0x02
        class=04-80-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=1
        intpin=a, irq=3
        map[0]: type 3, range 32, base fedfd000, size 12

I'm not sure how to proceed here ... does anyone know what
those device IDs represent?  

Jacques Vidrine <n@nectar.com>



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This functionaly should not be difficult to add to the driver and
to be honest it is surprising that it is not there . I will
think over this feature over the weekend and hopefully Roger
will beat this old programmer to it 8)

	Cheers,
	Amancio

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Just forward the patch to Soren. He sort of drops out
of the mailing lists . 

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	Doug,

	I took your advice about using DRQ 5 for sbxvi0, and at first it
worked adequately.  Most MIDI and WAV files played properly, though
RealAudio in 16bit mode was never even close.
	Unfortunately my success was short lived. As it turned out,
some random MIDI files, when played through the MIDI to WAV converter
`timidity', knocked my SB16 out of commission.  The result is loud
white noise coming through my speakers.  Furthermore, from that
point on, when I played anything else through /dev/dsp, I still
got white noise.  No messages from the sound driver (Voxware)
appeared on the root console, either.
	I tried a simple reboot, but that didn't work.  Completely shutting
down my computer and restarting also didn't work.  I still got the
white noise.  Then, I tried booting under Windows95 and running a few
test MIDI and WAV files.  That seemed to work, as a warm boot to FreeBSD
made the sound work again.
	I began playing some MIDI files again through `timidity', but after
a while, the same problem happened again.  I went through the same Win95
reboot, sound check, and warm boot to FreeBSD, and got it working again.
	Then, another MIDI file knocked the SB16 card out again.  This time,
though, the previously mentioned methods did not work.  Furthermore,
despite having the "proper" DRQ 5 setting, I once again got those
DMA/IRQ timeouts.
	Then, I re-compiled the kernel, reconfiguring it so that I don't
have to manually boot into -c config to set "drq sbxvi0 5," and things
seemed to work again.  Then, once again, a midi file started giving me
white noise.
	Any way, strangely, randomly trying different timidity files,
the sound card all of a sudden would correct itself and play fine.  On
several occasions, I would play a tune and get white noise, and I
just kept playing and eventually it corrected itself.
	But then it went bad again, and I think I can't get it to work
this time.  To make a long story short, it appears that the
Voxware sound driver with SB is unreliable, making any serious attempt
to incorporate sound on my desktop mute.
	I doubt its a hardware problem, since this is my second SB16,
and am not likely to believe lightning strikes twice.  In fact, I'm
beginning to suspect there was nothing wrong with the first SB card.
I know Luigi isn't a big fan of SB16, and I'm sure there is a good
reason for it.  But it is not "physically damaged" in such a way that
it can't be made to work, and I cannot responsibly just keep buying
expensive hardware every time someone declares it brain-damaged,
validly or not.  So its either this SB16 or bust.
	I don't know if there's anything anybody can do about this
conundrum of mine.  Any help would be appreciated, but if not, at least
I offer this as informational testimony to not buying a SB :)

	-Rob

	PS: I realize my postings are a bit long, but I just want to
give as much detail as I can...

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(maybe people in -current is interested... i have Bcc-ed to
multimedia as well)

i have spent a few hours on mgp, found a few bugs, and implemented
a new feature which I find extremely useful. In a separate mail
will post some suggestions for possible extensions:

BUGS:

* the check for ".ps" in ispsfilename() looked for the last 4
  char instead of 3 (fixed)
* running a process on the last page results in the process being
  killed immediately. I have no idea on how to fix this.
* %tab N will likely result in a coredump if N >= MAXTAB (32)
  (easy fix in grammar.y, did not bother though)

NEW FEATURE

* I have extended the "tab" attribute to define styles with names
  instead of numbers, e.g.

      %tab style_name center, ...

  The style can be invoked by starting the line with &style_name
  instead of a set of tabs. This is implemented by extending the
  tab_control[] array with MAXSTYLE fields dedicated to the new styles
  (max 100 currently, but it is a compile-time option that can be made
  larger if necessary).

  This is not as flexible as a global macro definition but I don't
  know better...

Diffs attached. Itojun, do you think we can update the port or apply
the change directly to the distribution ?

	cheers
	luigi

diff -ubwr ../mgp-1.03a/draw.c ./draw.c
--- ../mgp-1.03a/draw.c	Mon Mar 23 13:09:52 1998
+++ ./draw.c	Fri Jun 26 20:41:34 1998
@@ -110,7 +110,7 @@
 		p++;
 	if (4 < p - p0 && strcasecmp(p - 4, ".eps") == 0)
 		return 1;
-	if (3 < p - p0 && strcasecmp(p - 4, ".ps") == 0)
+	if (3 < p - p0 && strcasecmp(p - 3, ".ps") == 0)
 		return 1;
 	return 0;
 }
diff -ubwr ../mgp-1.03a/globals.c ./globals.c
--- ../mgp-1.03a/globals.c	Fri Feb 13 07:47:58 1998
+++ ./globals.c	Fri Jun 26 13:42:34 1998
@@ -43,7 +43,7 @@
 u_char *page_data[MAXPAGE][MAXLINE];
 struct ctrl *page_control[MAXPAGE][MAXLINE];
 struct ctrl *default_control[MAXLINE];
-struct ctrl *tab_control[MAXTAB];
+struct ctrl *tab_control[MAXTAB+MAXSTYLE];
 struct ctrl *init_control[MAXLINE];
 
 u_int mgp_flag;
diff -ubwr ../mgp-1.03a/grammar.y ./grammar.y
--- ../mgp-1.03a/grammar.y	Tue Mar 24 18:07:03 1998
+++ ./grammar.y	Fri Jun 26 14:18:33 1998
@@ -572,6 +572,7 @@
 			{ $$ = gen_icon($2, $3, $4); }
 	;
 tabcmd:	  KW_TAB NUM	{ $$ = gen_int(CTL_TAB, $2); }
+	| KW_TAB ID { $$ = gen_str(CTL_TAB, $2); }
 	;
 defaultcmd: KW_DEFAULT NUM
 			{ $$ = gen_int(CTL_DEFAULT, $2); }
diff -ubwr ../mgp-1.03a/mgp.h ./mgp.h
--- ../mgp-1.03a/mgp.h	Mon Mar 23 13:29:10 1998
+++ ./mgp.h	Fri Jun 26 13:42:14 1998
@@ -109,6 +109,7 @@
 #define MAXDIREC	16
 #define MAXARG		32
 #define MAXTAB		32
+#define MAXSTYLE	100
 
 #define SP_NONE		0
 #define SP_SHRINK	1
@@ -385,7 +386,7 @@
 #endif
 extern struct ctrl *page_control[MAXPAGE][MAXLINE];
 extern struct ctrl *default_control[MAXLINE];
-extern struct ctrl *tab_control[MAXTAB];
+extern struct ctrl *tab_control[MAXTAB+MAXSTYLE];
 extern struct ctrl *init_control[MAXLINE];
 
 extern u_int mgp_flag;
Only in .: mgp.o
Only in .: mgp2ps
diff -ubwr ../mgp-1.03a/parse.c ./parse.c
--- ../mgp-1.03a/parse.c	Mon Mar 23 12:23:16 1998
+++ ./parse.c	Fri Jun 26 14:21:28 1998
@@ -98,7 +98,7 @@
 			page_control[page][line] = NULL;
 		}
 	}
-	for (line = 0; line < MAXTAB; line++) {
+	for (line = 0; line < MAXTAB + MAXSTYLE; line++) {
 		if (!tab_control[line])
 			continue;
 		ctlfree(tab_control[line]);
@@ -229,11 +229,27 @@
 			break;
 
 		case CTL_TAB:
-			ch = &tab_control[root->cti_value - 1];
+		    {
+			int i = root->cti_value - 1 ;
+			if ( i >= MAXTAB ) {
+			    /* must be a string, find a free entry */
+			    for (i = MAXTAB ; i < MAXTAB+MAXSTYLE ; i++)
+				if (tab_control[i] == NULL)
+				    break;
+			    if (i == MAXTAB+MAXSTYLE ) {
+				fprintf(stderr, "%s:%d: too many styles\n",
+					filename, lineno);
+				exit(-1);
+			    }
+			}
+			ch = &tab_control[i];
 			if (*ch)
 				ctlappend(*ch, root->ct_next);
-			else
+			else if (i< MAXTAB)
 				*ch = root->ct_next;
+			else
+				*ch = root; /* keep name as well */
+		    }
 			break;
 
 		default:
@@ -547,7 +563,7 @@
 	}
 
 	/* CTL_PREFIX in tab_control should be CTL_TABPREFIX. */
-	for (l = 0; l < MAXTAB; l++) {
+	for (l = 0; l < MAXTAB+ MAXSTYLE; l++) {
 		for (cp = tab_control[l]; cp; cp = cp->ct_next) {
 			if (cp->ct_op == CTL_PREFIX)
 				cp->ct_op = CTL_TABPREFIX;
@@ -882,7 +898,26 @@
 					ctlcopy(tab_control[tab_depth]));
 				}
 			}
+			/* special: style escape */
+			if (p && *p == '&') {
+			    char *p0 = p ;
+			    int i ;
 
+			    for ( ; *p && *p >32 && *p <127; p++ ) ;
+			    *p = '\0';
+			    cp->ctc_value = p+1 ;
+			    for (i=MAXTAB; i < MAXTAB+MAXSTYLE ; i++) {
+				if (tab_control[i] &&
+				    strcmp(p0+1, tab_control[i]->cti_value)==0)
+				break ;
+			     }
+			     if (i == MAXTAB+MAXSTYLE)
+				fprintf(stderr, "style %s not found\n", p0+1);
+			     else {
+			 	ctlinsert(&cp1->ct_next,
+				    ctlcopy(tab_control[i]->ct_next));
+			     }
+			}
 		}
 	}
 

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>I've been thinking about an improvement to the bt848 driver.
>The same could be made to the meteor driver too.
>
>I'd like to grab from a sub-section of the video image.
>This allows the software pan and zoom functions you can get with
>a fixed camera with a wide angle lense.
>
>Currently, the bt848 driver captures the full NTSC (or PAL) image
>and scales it down to the desired image size, say 192x128 pixels.

The downside unfortunately is interlacing.  If you grab say, 320x240
(from an NTSC source), you typically grab only the even (or odd)
fields, and don't get interlace artifacts.  If you grab 320x240 as a
subsection of the 640x480 (or PAL) image, you get interlace artifacts
because you need to grab both fields.  Thus it will look worse that
the scaled video and these artifacts also adversely affect most video
codecs.

Cheers,
	Mark

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Cool, you probably have a bt878 if you do I can try to help  
you out this weekend . Wish I had your card 8)

	Cheers,
	Amancio

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Hi,

If I try the obvious fix (make the probe succeed by handling device=0x0878),
i2cRead fails.  It appears to hang, but I believe it is sitting
in this loop waiting for an interrupt:

	/* wait for completion */
	for ( x = 0x7fffffff; x; --x ) {	/* safety valve */
		if ( bt848->int_stat & BT848_INT_I2CDONE )
			break;
	}

I haven't had the patience to wait more then a minute or so at this
point, since I figure it'll try the i2cRead 127 more times anyway. :-)

Jacques Vidrine <n@nectar.com> 

On 26 June 1998 at 14:52, Amancio Hasty <hasty@rah.star-gate.com> wrote:
> Cool, you probably have a bt878 if you do I can try to help  
> you out this weekend . Wish I had your card 8)
> 
> 	Cheers,
> 	Amancio
> 



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I'm trying to use the CDwrite utility taht is in ports, and the interface
looks great, except it is too long for my screen.  I have my "window" set
such that it is small enough that most ppl complain about not being able
to read it, yet if I go into the 'mkisofs' utility inside of cd-write, I
can't see the bottom...where I *think* is the button to press to actually
do the image?

Anyone else have this problem, or is it just something I've setup wrong
for cd-write itself?

Thanks...

Marc G. Fournier                                
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On Sun, 28 Jun 1998, Jean-Marc Zucconi wrote:

> >>>>> The Hermit Hacker writes:
> 
>  > I'm trying to use the CDwrite utility taht is in ports, and the interface
>  > looks great, except it is too long for my screen.  I have my "window" set
>  > such that it is small enough that most ppl complain about not being able
>  > to read it, yet if I go into the 'mkisofs' utility inside of cd-write, I
>  > can't see the bottom...where I *think* is the button to press to actually
>  > do the image?
> 
>  > Anyone else have this problem, or is it just something I've setup wrong
>  > for cd-write itself?
> 
> Run your X display in 1280x1024 (or use a virtual of that size) :-)
> but in any case you must be able to move the window so that the bottom
> become visible?

	I'm still working with an old 15" monitor :(  Need to upgrade it
one of these days when I can afford it...would it be possible to give a
scroll bar on the side of that window?  I don't imagine that everyone has
the capabilities of runnign 1280x1024, and this gives me one less reason
to have to boot in to Win95, and image there are others that feel similar
:)

Marc G. Fournier                                
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>>>>> The Hermit Hacker writes:

 > I'm trying to use the CDwrite utility taht is in ports, and the interface
 > looks great, except it is too long for my screen.  I have my "window" set
 > such that it is small enough that most ppl complain about not being able
 > to read it, yet if I go into the 'mkisofs' utility inside of cd-write, I
 > can't see the bottom...where I *think* is the button to press to actually
 > do the image?

 > Anyone else have this problem, or is it just something I've setup wrong
 > for cd-write itself?

Run your X display in 1280x1024 (or use a virtual of that size) :-)
but in any case you must be able to move the window so that the bottom
become visible?

Jean-Marc
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