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From: Jeff Brown <jabrown@nlanr.net>
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Subject: Hauppauge WinTV & BT848 driver problems.
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I'm having a spot of trouble getting my WinTV card to work under FreeBSD, and I
hope I can get some help here with it.  I'm running fxtv 0.47 on 2.2.6R, with
the 08-31-1998 revision of the driver.  The card is the WinTV dbx-stereo (no FM
tuner). 

The video works fine; there is just no sound.  Changing between channels _does_
yield a "pop" each time as long as muting is disabled; and in "line-in" mode,
the external audio is passed through just fine. 

I've tried the OVERRIDE_DBX and OVERRIDE_MSP kernel options, by themselves and
together, to no avail.  Each option does add the appropriate text to the
boot-time probe message.  I've also tried 0x0 - 0xf for the tuner audio mux
values, without success.

My guess is that the MSP3430 isn't being initialized; but that's just a guess. 

Following are outputs of "the usual suspects" for identifying these cards; 
I'd appreciate any help you all can give.  It's worthy to note that, aside from
the sound, FreeBSD's '848 driver worked out-of-the-box, while the Win95 driver
took several days of fighting before 'Doze would boot with it!  Kudos to
Amancio et al!

		-Jeff Brown


I tested the card with Win95 and it works as expected; here are the relevant
parts of the "driver details" output: 
---------
WinCast/TV Model 61111 Rev AMB

Tuner: NTSC (M)
Tuner Audio: Stereo (MSP3430)
[...video modes 'n' such snipped...]
Decoder: BT878
Tuner: Philips FI1236 MK2
---------


The output of the "sign" program:
---------
signature contents, 0x01 thru 0xff:

 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 00 02 00 00 00
 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 20 78 01 20 00 00 00 00
 80 78 01 20 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 8b 07 20 00 51 01 20
 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 20 8b 07 20 00 51 01 20
 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00


i2c device found @ 
 0xa0
 0xc2
---------


The output of "fxtv -debug startup":
---------
Fxtv v0.47

DETECTED CAPTURE CARD(S) [DRIVER PROBES]:
    bktr0 <BrookTree 878> rev 2 int a irq 7 on pci0:9:0
    Hauppauge WinCast/TV, Philips FR1236 NTSC FM tuner, dbx stereo, msp3400c stereo.

SYSCTL MIB VALUES:
    kern.version: FreeBSD 2.2.6-RELEASE #27: Sat Sep  5 14:02:53 PDT 1998
        jabrown@brain.local.lan:/usr/src/sys/compile/BRAIN
    
    hw.bt848.card: -1
    hw.bt848.tuner: -1
    hw.bt848.reverse_mute: -1
    hw.bt848.format: -1

TUNER SIGNATURE (0x01 - 0xff):
    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 00 02 00 00 00

TUNER I2C DEVICES FOUND AT:
    0xa0, 0xc2

CAPTURE CARD EEPROM CONTENTS:
   Read 256 EEPROM bytes (0x00 - 0xff)
    84 12 00 00 05 50 0e 7f 08 0a 01 b7 ee 80 d8 86
    07 00 00 00 00 84 0a 00 01 01 20 77 00 40 e4 e0
    10 00 74 02 01 07 02 79 b7 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 13 eb 00 70
    84 12 00 00 05 50 0e 7f 08 0a 01 b7 ee 80 d8 86
    07 00 00 00 00 84 0a 00 01 01 20 77 00 40 e4 e0
    10 00 74 02 01 07 02 79 b7 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 13 eb 00 70

Supported RGB Capture Pixel Formats:
   bpp  Bpp  RGB Masks                     Swap
   ---  ---  ----------------------------  ----
    15   2   00007c00, 000003e0, 0000001f  NB  
    16   2   0000f800, 000007e0, 0000001f  NB  
    24   3   00ff0000, 0000ff00, 000000ff   B  
    24   4   00ff0000, 0000ff00, 000000ff  NBWb

Supported YUV Capture Pixel Formats:
   YUVSize  HSamp  VSamp  Pack    CompOrder  T->B  L->R  YTrans
   -------  -----  -----  ------  ---------  ----  ----  ------
    8,8,8   1,2,2  1,1,1  PLANAR  YUV         Y     Y      N
    8,8,8   1,2,2  1,1,1  PACKED  YUYV        Y     Y      N
    8,8,8   1,2,2  1,2,2  PLANAR  YUV         Y     Y      N


XSERVER: 'The XFree86 Project, Inc' v3320,  Protocol Verson 11.0
         Screen Res = 1152x864, DefDepth = 15; NumScreens = 1
         Bitmap Unit/BitOrder/Pad = 32/LSBFirst/32, Image ByteOrder = LSBFirst

XF86DGAQueryVersion() succeeded - vers = 1.00
   BaseAddr = 0xe1000000, Pitch = 1152, BankSize/RamSize = 4194304/4194304

Rating Available Visuals:
   Rating  Class        bpp  Bpp  R,G,B Masks                   Swap  DirectVid
   ------  -----------  ---  ---  ----------------------------  ----  ---------
     5     TrueColor     15  2,2  00007c00, 000003e0, 0000001f   --      Yes
Default Visual is 15-bpp TrueColor

XF86VidModeQueryVersion() succeeded - version = 0.08
---------




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Jeff,

> I'm having a spot of trouble getting my WinTV card to work under > FreeBSD, and I hope I can get some help here with it.

> The video works fine; there is just no sound.

It looks like recent hauppauge cards are doing something different
with the audio which we have not worked out yet. :-(

> I've tried the OVERRIDE_DBX and OVERRIDE_MSP kernel options, by > themselves and together, to no avail.
> My guess is that the MSP3430 isn't being initialized; but that's just > a guess.

No one has written any code for the DBX and MSP chips. The overrides
are a red herring.
The Linux bttv driver has MSP3400 code in it. Perhaps someone could
use it to improve the FreeBSD driver?

> I've also tried 0x0 - 0xf for the tuner audio mux
> values, without success.

In that case, I am stuck. Hauppauge must have done something
totally different on the new cards.

I'll look over yout Win95 and fxtv dumps. Thanks for those.

Bye
Roger

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> Jeff,
> 
> > I'm having a spot of trouble getting my WinTV card to work under > FreeBSD, and I hope I can get some help here with it.
> 
> > The video works fine; there is just no sound.
> 
> It looks like recent hauppauge cards are doing something different
> with the audio which we have not worked out yet. :-(
> 
> > I've tried the OVERRIDE_DBX and OVERRIDE_MSP kernel options, by > themselves and together, to no avail.
> > My guess is that the MSP3430 isn't being initialized; but that's just > a guess.
> 
> No one has written any code for the DBX and MSP chips. The overrides
> are a red herring.
> The Linux bttv driver has MSP3400 code in it. Perhaps someone could
> use it to improve the FreeBSD driver?

fxtv works with the MSP3400C in 2.2.7R.  I have this in one of my home
machines:

  bktr0 <BrookTree 848> rev 18 int a irq 11 on pci0:16:0
  Hauppauge WinCast/TV, Philips FR1236 NTSC FM tuner, msp3400c stereo.

I think Jeff's problem is specific to the MSP3430?

Daniel
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I've just bought some more Hauppauge cards, and of course they've changed
the design since I last bought one a few weeks ago - they now have the
Bt878 on them (Hauppauge model 61314).  Since I'm running
FreeBSD-2.2-stable on these systems, the new cards weren't supported.

I have updated to the -current versions of:
  sys/pci/{brooktree848.c,brktree_reg.h}
  sys/i386/include/ioctl_bt848.h

and with a few minor hacks to make it compile in a 2.2 kernel, this driver
still works fine with an old 848 card, and it recognizes the new cards as: 

bktr1 <BrookTree 878> rev 2 int a irq 10 on pci0:15:0
Hauppauge WinCast/TV, Philips PAL I tuner.
pci0:15:1: vendor=0x109e, device=0x0878, class=multimedia (misc) int a irq
10 [no driver assigned]

Unfortunately, it doesn't appear to work quite right when I test it with
FXTV.  If configured for PAL (either "fxtv -driverDefaults" or explictly
by "fxtv -inputFormat pal") the picture is grossly out of horizontal sync
- you can roughly make out 4 copies of the picture sideways across the
screen.  However, if you select NTSC mode (still feeding the card from a
PAL video source) you get a reasonable picture: no colour, and slightly
flickery at the top edge, but correctly positioned horizontally.  This
behaviour in NTSC mode is probably what you would expect (625/50 and
525/50 having approximately the same line rate), but what has gone wrong
with PAL mode?

This card also gives the problem that only the tuner and S-Video inputs
appear to work - selecting composite video in just gives a blank screen -
but this is presumably just that FXTV needs updating to know about the 4th
multiplexor input.



Of course it is possible that I've fouled things up in hacking the
-current driver into a 2.2 system, but I don't think so given that the
hacks are minor and it still works perfectly in PAL mode with an 848 card.


Regards,


Andrew Gordon.


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Daniel, Jeff, Multimedia's
> > Roger (thats me) wrote
> > No one has written any code for the DBX and MSP chips. The overrides
> > are a red herring.
> > The Linux bttv driver has MSP3400 code in it. Perhaps someone could
> > use it to improve the FreeBSD driver?
> 
> Daniel wrote
> fxtv works with the MSP3400C in 2.2.7R.  I have this in one of my home
> machines:
> 
>   bktr0 <BrookTree 848> rev 18 int a irq 11 on pci0:16:0
>   Hauppauge WinCast/TV, Philips FR1236 NTSC FM tuner, msp3400c stereo.
> 

Well, the bt848 driver does detect the presence of the MSP3400c.
It checks check that some device is sitting on the i2c bus at
address 0xa0.
But that is all it does. The chip is just not used at this time.

The hardware layout of a bt848/878 card is supposed to be like this.
TUNER: has two outputs, a mono audio signal and the stereo-encoded
signal.
MSP3400: Takes the stereo encoded signal and decodes it to make stereo
Left and Right channels (currently not done on the FreeBSD driver)
AUDIO MUX: Can switch between the mono audio signal, and the stereo
signal from the MSP3400. It can also select the external audio or
Mute the sound.

We can only use the Mono audio from Tuner direct to Audio Mux.

Now the bttv driver on Linux does use it to get full stereo from
broadcast TV, so we need some kind sole to port part of their
driver over to our driver.


Bye
Roger Hardiman
Strathclyde Uni Telepresece Group

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In article <Pine.BSF.3.96.980906221812.21169A-100000@server.arg.sj.co.uk> you wrote:

> Unfortunately, it doesn't appear to work quite right when I test it with
> FXTV.  If configured for PAL (either "fxtv -driverDefaults" or explictly
> by "fxtv -inputFormat pal") the picture is grossly out of horizontal sync
> - you can roughly make out 4 copies of the picture sideways across the
> screen.  However, if you select NTSC mode (still feeding the card from a
> PAL video source) you get a reasonable picture: no colour, and slightly
> flickery at the top edge, but correctly positioned horizontally.  This
> behaviour in NTSC mode is probably what you would expect (625/50 and
> 525/50 having approximately the same line rate), but what has gone wrong
> with PAL mode?

Probably you have single crystal card, try BKTR_USE_PLL option of the new 
driver.

--
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Hi all,

Several of you have emailed recently about No Audio from the Tuner
on Bt878 Hauppauge cards (usually with the NICAM stereo chip)

Andrew Gordon has saved the day. He has used a ossilicope and
multi-meter to work out the hardware layout of the new Hauppauge boards.

It seems that the Tuner Audio no longer has a direct route to the Audio
Mux.
It only goes into the 34xx NICAM STEREO chip. From there it goes
into the Audio Mux.

So, we need to initialise the 34xx STEREO chip before we can
get any audio on Hauppauge BT878 cards.

Note: The external audio input should still work. Only Tuner Audio
is affected.

Note2: Old hauppauge cards has a direct link from the Tuner's mono
audio out to the Audio Mux and also a link from the Stereo Chip to
the Audio Mux.

Bye
Roger Hardiman
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On Tue, 8 Sep 1998, Vsevolod Lobko wrote:
>
> Probably you have single crystal card, try BKTR_USE_PLL option of the new 
> driver.

Yes, this was the problem, thank you.

Remaining problem with these cards is that audio doesn't work from the
tuner.  Some probing of the circuit suggests that the plain audio from the
tuner is no longer connected to the audio MUX, and that you need to
program the stereo decoder to get any sound from the tuner input.  Roger
Hardiman has been helping me with this.


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Roger Hardiman wrote:
> 
> Several of you have emailed recently about No Audio from the Tuner
> on Bt878 Hauppauge cards (usually with the NICAM stereo chip)
> 

Matthias Scheler pointed out that if he ran Win98 first (which
initialised the NICAM stereo chip, then rebooted (without powering off)
into FreeBSD, he got Audio from his Hauppauge bt878 based TV card.

Roger

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i've looked everywhere and it seems they are
no where to be found.

Steven S. >>> 403forbidden.net 

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Howdy -

After seeing all the recents posts I got motiviated to finally fixing my
sound environment.  I chucked the ancient SB Pro card, ordered and installed 
an AWE64 gold and gened a new kernel using pnp and pcm.  So, what do I have
misconfigured here?  This is a 2.1.7 system with the latest cvsup (It has
Luigi's X11AMP/MP3 patch).  I'd actually rather *not* use plug and pray and
select the IRQ/DRQ myself so I won't have any SCSI (Adaptec 2970UW) and/or 
network card (Dec DE500-XA) conflicts.  Do I need to run CTCM/CTCU from
DOS to set the card up first to use: IRQ5, DMA 1 & 5 and IO 0x220 ?

TIA - Frank

dmesg:	(bootverbose is set)
	Probing for PnP devices:
	Trying Read_Port at 203
	Trying Read_Port at 243
	CSN 1 Vendor ID: CTL00b2 [0xb2008c0e] Serial 0x05f433a2
	pnp1:0 port 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 irq 0:0 drq 4:4 en 0 fl 0x0
	This is a SB16 PnP, but LDN 0 is disabled
..
	mss_probe: no address supplied, try default 0x530
	mss_detect error, busy still set (0xff)
	sb_probe: no address supplied, try defaults (0x220,0x240)
	pcm0 not found at 0xffffffff


Config entries:
	controller     pnp0
	device pcm0 at isa? port? tty irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x15 vector pcmintr

\\\\////\\\\////\\\\\////\\\\\////\\\\////\\\\////\\\\////\\\\////\\\\////\\\\
Frank Terhaar-Yonkers
Cisco Systems, Inc.
Cat3900 Software Team
7025 Kit Creek Road  PO Box 14987
Research Triangle Park,  North Carolina  27709
fty@cisco.com   voice (919)472-2101   FAX (919)472-2940

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From owner-freebsd-multimedia  Thu Sep 10 06:43:32 1998
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you need to make a /boot.config file which apparently tickles the card 
somehow.  Mine, for a turtle beach malibu, looks like this:

pnp 1 0 os enable port0 0x530 port2 0x220 irq0 5 drq0 1 drq1 3

which produces dmesg output like this:


Probing for PnP devices:
CSN 1 Vendor ID: CSC7537 [0x3775630e] Serial 0xffffffff
PnP: override config for CSN 1 LDN 0 vend_id 0x3775630e
mss_attach <CS4237>1 at 0x52c irq 5 dma 1:3 flags 0x13
pcm1 (CS423x/Yamaha <CS4237> sn 0xffffffff) at 0x52c irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x13 id 12


works like a charm too.  Please also remember that after making the
proper device nodes you will have to symlink /dev/{audio,mixer,dsp} to 
/dev/{audio1,mixer1,dsp1} since the driver attaches to pcm1.


hope this helps, and thanks, luigi, for the pcm driver

-j



Frank Terhaar-Yonkers writes:
 > 
 > Howdy -
 > 
 > After seeing all the recents posts I got motiviated to finally fixing my
 > sound environment.  I chucked the ancient SB Pro card, ordered and installed 
 > an AWE64 gold and gened a new kernel using pnp and pcm.  So, what do I have
 > misconfigured here?  This is a 2.1.7 system with the latest cvsup (It has
 > Luigi's X11AMP/MP3 patch).  I'd actually rather *not* use plug and pray and
 > select the IRQ/DRQ myself so I won't have any SCSI (Adaptec 2970UW) and/or 
 > network card (Dec DE500-XA) conflicts.  Do I need to run CTCM/CTCU from
 > DOS to set the card up first to use: IRQ5, DMA 1 & 5 and IO 0x220 ?
 > 
 > TIA - Frank
 > 
 > dmesg:	(bootverbose is set)
 > 	Probing for PnP devices:
 > 	Trying Read_Port at 203
 > 	Trying Read_Port at 243
 > 	CSN 1 Vendor ID: CTL00b2 [0xb2008c0e] Serial 0x05f433a2
 > 	pnp1:0 port 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 irq 0:0 drq 4:4 en 0 fl 0x0
 > 	This is a SB16 PnP, but LDN 0 is disabled
 > ..
 > 	mss_probe: no address supplied, try default 0x530
 > 	mss_detect error, busy still set (0xff)
 > 	sb_probe: no address supplied, try defaults (0x220,0x240)
 > 	pcm0 not found at 0xffffffff
 > 
 > 
 > Config entries:
 > 	controller     pnp0
 > 	device pcm0 at isa? port? tty irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x15 vector pcmintr
 > 
 > \\\\////\\\\////\\\\\////\\\\\////\\\\////\\\\////\\\\////\\\\////\\\\////\\\\
 > Frank Terhaar-Yonkers
 > Cisco Systems, Inc.
 > Cat3900 Software Team
 > 7025 Kit Creek Road  PO Box 14987
 > Research Triangle Park,  North Carolina  27709
 > fty@cisco.com   voice (919)472-2101   FAX (919)472-2940
 > 
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> Howdy -
> 
> After seeing all the recents posts I got motiviated to finally fixing my
> sound environment.  I chucked the ancient SB Pro card, ordered and installed 
> an AWE64 gold and gened a new kernel using pnp and pcm.  So, what do I have
> misconfigured here?  This is a 2.1.7 system with the latest cvsup (It has
> Luigi's X11AMP/MP3 patch).  I'd actually rather *not* use plug and pray and
> select the IRQ/DRQ myself so I won't have any SCSI (Adaptec 2970UW) and/or 

PnP is not as bad as people thinks. In any case, in your machine the
BIOS is not initializing the card as the msg says:

> 	CSN 1 Vendor ID: CTL00b2 [0xb2008c0e] Serial 0x05f433a2
> 	pnp1:0 port 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 irq 0:0 drq 4:4 en 0 fl 0x0
> 	This is a SB16 PnP, but LDN 0 is disabled

so you have to boot with -c and to

    pnp 1 0 os enable port0 0x220 irq0 5 drq0 1 drq1 5

	cheers
	luigi

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I just subscribed to this list today, so pardon my abrupt interuption...
Are there drivers out for the following devices:

Sound Blaster Awe 64 Gold
ATI All-In-Wonder Pro (with TV Tuner)

I know 4fron-tech.com has OSS drivers that support the Awe 64, but
thought I would ask if thats the best way to go to support all the
feature of the Awe 64 Gold card -- sound, synth, midi, et.al.

I'm fairly new to FreeBSD, and I'm trying to get support for some of the
"higher end" windows type cards like these so I can prove to myself and
others that FreeBSD can do great audio & video like Win95...

Any TV Tuner software apps out there and what adapters are supported?

Should I be referencing a FAQ somewhere instead of bugging this group?
:)

Thanks!
--Lee McKenna
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Has anyone taken a look at these PCMCIA video cards?
I'm looking for a way to run VIC on a laptop and source multicast video.

http://www.nogatech.com/

They are also OEM'ed as

NEC Versa Video Card 
Toshiba Noteworthy Video Card 

I asked the salesman if they were BT848 based but he didn't know what
I was talking about. I sent a note addressed to the developers but
never got a response.

Anyone have any info?

Thanks,
Tom

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> Has anyone taken a look at these PCMCIA video cards?
> I'm looking for a way to run VIC on a laptop and source multicast video.

not the same thing but have you considered a parallel port camera
(e.g. quickcam) instead ? For as bad as it can be, I am not really
sure that the PCMCIA bus has the necessary bandwidth to support
uncompressed video, so you either end up with low res/frame rate,
or with an already compressed stream and your chances to be able
to decode it severely decrease.

(also this is trivial but if you just need to send screendumps you can
use our x11 grabber module for vic)

	luigi

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In message <199809111808.UAA20230@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> you write:
>> Has anyone taken a look at these PCMCIA video cards?
>> I'm looking for a way to run VIC on a laptop and source multicast video.
>
>not the same thing but have you considered a parallel port camera
>(e.g. quickcam) instead ? For as bad as it can be, I am not really
>sure that the PCMCIA bus has the necessary bandwidth to support
>uncompressed video, so you either end up with low res/frame rate,
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>to decode it severely decrease.

That's too bad.
I would have figured that 32 bit PC Cards could handle full motion video.

Thanks,
Tom

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> > Has anyone taken a look at these PCMCIA video cards?
> > I'm looking for a way to run VIC on a laptop and source multicast video.
> 
> not the same thing but have you considered a parallel port camera
> (e.g. quickcam) instead ? For as bad as it can be, I am not really
> sure that the PCMCIA bus has the necessary bandwidth to support
> uncompressed video, so you either end up with low res/frame rate,
> or with an already compressed stream and your chances to be able
> to decode it severely decrease.

FWIW, a PCMCIA camera has *TONS* more bandwidth and *TONS* less
interrupt load than the ISA bus (which is what the PCMCIA bus
essentially is).

We used a parallel port camera for awhile, but the performance and load
on the system became so bad that we were forced to switch to a PCMCIA
camera, which works much nicer.  (Note, this is under Win95, but the
hardware issues are the same as in FreeBSD.)

The PCMCIA bus has all the bandwidth you need, and the new CardBus stuff
(not supported in FreeBSD) has even more, being 'pluggable' PCI as
compared to ISA.



Nate

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I have FreeBSD 2.2.7, with the newest OSS and all that. I tried all of the
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> FWIW, a PCMCIA camera has *TONS* more bandwidth and *TONS* less

good to hear that. but just for curiosity, how much more bw ? I guess
the ISA bus tops at some 4Mbyte/s, a 33 MHz, 32-bit PCI bus can do 133
Mbytes/s during burst transfers, and 320x240x30fps YUV16 video should
be around 5MB/s.

> We used a parallel port camera for awhile, but the performance and load
> on the system became so bad that we were forced to switch to a PCMCIA
> camera, which works much nicer.  (Note, this is under Win95, but the
> hardware issues are the same as in FreeBSD.)

well for the paraller port thing, a poor driver can make a lot of
difference. I rememver using a quickcam with vic under FreeBSD,
and the system was still usable on a 486/66 with the user space
driver whereas a P5-133 was doing terribly using a kernel space
driver (essentially the reason was, the kernel driver was/is not
preemptable, so even mouse/keyboard interrupts had to wait!)

	cheers
	luigi

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> > FWIW, a PCMCIA camera has *TONS* more bandwidth and *TONS* less
> 
> good to hear that. but just for curiosity, how much more bw ? I guess
> the ISA bus tops at some 4Mbyte/s, a 33 MHz, 32-bit PCI bus can do 133
> Mbytes/s during burst transfers, and 320x240x30fps YUV16 video should
> be around 5MB/s.


Well, given that the MAXIMUM BW from a parallel port device is 115K,
there is alot more bandwidth on the PCMCIA bus.

> > We used a parallel port camera for awhile, but the performance and load
> > on the system became so bad that we were forced to switch to a PCMCIA
> > camera, which works much nicer.  (Note, this is under Win95, but the
> > hardware issues are the same as in FreeBSD.)
> 
> well for the paraller port thing, a poor driver can make a lot of
> difference.

True, but I'm using the driver supplied by the QuickCam folks.  It works
pretty well, but in comparison to the PCMCIA card it was night/day.
Remember that a parallel port version creates and interrupt/byte (or
maybe more), and the PCMCIA does not.

The PCMCIA bus might not have enough bandwidth, but if so then there's
*NO* way you're going to get enough bandwidth since it's the fastest
'bus' you would have available on the hardware. :(



Nate

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