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when telling freebsd-x11amp to play an mp3 i get these on my consol:
sorry, read DMA channel unavailable
sorry, read DMA channel unavailable
sorry, read DMA channel unavailable
WARNING: rdintr but read DMA inactive!
WARNING: rdintr but read DMA inactive!
the WARNING line is repeated VERY fast as long as i keep playing.
pcm0 at 0x220 irq 10 drq 3 flags 0x15 on isa
the only thing i can think of is that i did a soft reboot which didn't
reinit the driver properly because i didn't see this behavior with my last
run.
music plays fine though, i'm going to try a hard reboot to see if it fixes
things.
if there a way to issue a card reset while up and running?
the card is a genuine SB16+SCSI.
(please cc as i'm not on this list)
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Subject: bt848 broken ?
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It's a couple of days that I receive this error when I try to compile the kernel
(cvsupped twice a day, last five minutes ago 981102 18:45 CET)
.c ../../libkern/strcat.c ../../libkern/strcmp.c ../../libkern/strcpy.c
../../libkern/strlen.c ../../libkern/strncmp.c ../../libkern/strncpy.c
../../libkern/udivdi3.c ../../libkern/umoddi3.c swapkernel.c ioconf.c param.c
vnode_if.c config.c
../../pci/brooktree848.c:361: smbus_if.h: No such file or directory
../../pci/brooktree848.c:362: iicbus_if.h: No such file or directory
../../pci/bt848_i2c.c:61: iicbb_if.h: No such file or directory
../../pci/bt848_i2c.c:62: smbus_if.h: No such file or directory
mkdep: compile failed
*** Error code 1
Stop.
Have I missed something ?
Best Regards,
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Subject: How can we switch to a higher-level audio interface?
From: grady@xcf.berkeley.edu (Steven Grady)
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[Summary: the current standard of interacting directly with the
audio device sucks. What approach can we take to improve it,
if any?]
As I've been experimenting more with various audio-related pieces
of software in the last few months, I've become more and more
concerned with the fact that there is an increasing body of software
that uses a _really_ broken approach to sound, namely, to open the
device directly. This has three serious problems: it doesn't work
over the network, only one application at a time can play a sound,
and it is a low-level API. All of these problems used to exist
for graphics, which was of course why X was developed.
There have been various solutions proposed -- the Network Audio
Server is probably the most advanced, but development/maintenance
seems abandoned, and the documentation is skimpy (I know -- I'm
trying to write an application that uses it). There's also rplay,
KDE's kaudioserver (which I haven't looked into yet), and some
others.
The problem is that none of these solutions is being adopted on a
widespread basis. Instead, new applications still use /dev/audio,
/dev/dsp, etc.
It seems to me that there are a few reasons why no server-based
model has been adopted. The main reason is that there is no
standard. Unlike X, there is no single interface that everyone
uses. Also, the various solutions are not particularly robust --
who wants to spend their precious development time debugging someone
else's code? But most likely, I think that it is just a huge blind
spot for most people -- people seem comfortable with direct device
access, despite there being a much better alternative model literally
in front of their faces.
It's worth analyzing the three problems I mentioned above:
non-network: apparently not a serious problem for most people,
since most people run the applications on the machine
in front of them. An obvious exception is X terminals,
which is why NCD took over the development of NAS.
But most BSD/Linux people don't run on X terminals.
low-level API: only affects developers. I'm sure the developers
dealing with sound would like a higher-level API (I know
I do), but since the user won't see it, it doesn't seem
worth dealing with.
exclusive access: This is the thing that amazes me. I HATE
not having common access. I want to use the audio to play mpeg3s,
have interesting system sounds, use speak-freely, run
timidity, play games, etc. Right now, I have to choose which
one I want, and turn off everything else. That SUCKS. Why aren't
users up in arms about this?
Okay, so my question is, is it too late to do anything about this?
Here are some possible approaches:
Change the device driver so that multiple access is allowed.
Advantages: no applications need to be changed. Addresses the
most obvious problem with the least amount of effort.
Disadvantages: terrible design -- that kind of functionality should
_not go in a device driver. Doesn't address all the
problems. Not beneficial outside the FreeBSD world.
Dangerous -- bugs in tricky algorithms could cause system
to crash.
Implement a dynamically-loadable device driver that allows multiple
access.
Advantages: no applications need to be changed.
Disadvantages: Still not a good design. Doesn't address all the
problems. Not beneficial outside the FreeBSD world. Requires
additional non-trivial work to make the sound driver dynamic
(although I think this should be done by someone anyway).
Still dangerous.
Port all the applications to use NAS (or rplay, kaudioserver, etc.).
Advantages: Moves to more X-like model.
Disadvantages: SERIOUS porting effort. Locks into one audio API
(which may not end up being standard). Such major changes
may not be accepted back into code base by original
developers. Existing APIs are still fairly low-level. Chosen
audio interface must be debugged (both client and server),
potentially enhanced to support all existing device-level
functionality.
Develop toolkit-level API, port all to use that API, implement
on top of one or more audio server formats. Ultimately, create
multiple language bindings.
Advantages: Moves to more tk-like model. Programs that use
audio in a simple way (e.g. playing a sound) may require
very simple changes, promoting acceptance by original application
developers. Eases cross-platform (i.e. beyond UNIX) implementations.
Easy to switch low-level interfaces to use the best (most
robust and/or functional).
Disadvantages: SERIOUS development effort. Non-trivial porting
effort. For audio-intensive applications (timidity, speak freely,
etc.), not likely to be accepted back into original codebase
(until toolkit becomes established). Proliferation of
libraries either bloats code, or causes installation
problems (with dynamic libraries).
Another issue to consider is that we FreeBSD folks are in a priveleged
position with respect to the Linux folks. Since our ports model incorporates
the patching of existing code bases, we can make programs work with
FreeBSD by supplying a patch, rather than trying to get all the
individual developers to incorporate whatever changes we come up with.
So if we followed one of these approaches, we can experiment just within
our world, rather than in the entire free software community.
What do people think about these issues? Are there others? Is there
any chance that I'll be able to play an mpeg, AND have my system ring
when a chat request comes in, without switching to Windows?
(Oh, one more thing. This problem occured in displays, it also occurs
with sound. In fact, it's a general device-access thing. If we fix this,
we still have the problem of accessing the joystick, the CD-ROM, tape drives,
etc. People come up with individual ad-hoc solutions; maybe it's time to
think about what could be abstracted into a general solution.]
(And another thing -- although I've been thinking about this for a while,
I was inspired to actually send this e-mail after reading a very interesting
memo on open source from a high-level microsoft dude, annotated by Eric
Raymond. It occurred to me while reading it that while X provides a
wonderful example on the plus side of open source, our current audio
problems are a strong example on the minus side. I'd hate to think the
audio situation was a lost cause.
URL: http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/halloween.html)
Steven
grady@xcf.berkeley.edu
"I think life should be more like TV. I think all of life's problems
ought to be solved in 30 minutes with simple homilies, don't you?
I think weight and oral hygiene ought to be our biggest concerns.
I think we should all have powerful, high-paying jobs, and everyone
should drive fancy sports cars. All our desires should be instantly
gratified. Women should always wear tight clothes, and men should
carry powerful handguns. Life overall should be more glamorous,
thrill-packed, and filled with applause."
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On Sat, Oct 31, 1998 at 04:52:28PM +0200, GODFREY wrote:
> I need a driver for this video capture card can you help
The driver is included in FreeBSD 2.2.5 and newer, if that is what you
run. Just add 'device bktr0' to your kernel config.
If you're not running FreeBSD - sorry, we can't. The closest is that
you can get the sourcecode to the driver from our sourcetree (but
you'd have to port it to your system).
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Subject: Re: bt848 broken ?
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On Mon, Nov 02, 1998 at 06:57:27PM +0100, Gianmarco Giovannelli wrote:
> It's a couple of days that I receive this error when I try to compile the kernel
> (cvsupped twice a day, last five minutes ago 981102 18:45 CET)
>
> .c ../../libkern/strcat.c ../../libkern/strcmp.c ../../libkern/strcpy.c
> ../../libkern/strlen.c ../../libkern/strncmp.c ../../libkern/strncpy.c
> ../../libkern/udivdi3.c ../../libkern/umoddi3.c swapkernel.c ioconf.c param.c
> vnode_if.c config.c
> ../../pci/brooktree848.c:361: smbus_if.h: No such file or directory
> ../../pci/brooktree848.c:362: iicbus_if.h: No such file or directory
> ../../pci/bt848_i2c.c:61: iicbb_if.h: No such file or directory
> ../../pci/bt848_i2c.c:62: smbus_if.h: No such file or directory
> mkdep: compile failed
> *** Error code 1
>
> Stop.
>
> Have I missed something ?
You have to re-configure your kernel before attempting to recompile
it. If you do, and you're up to date, I think it should work...
Eivind.
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Subject: Re: How can we switch to a higher-level audio interface?
From: grady@xcf.berkeley.edu (Steven Grady)
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Sorry to reply to my own e-mail, but in thinking about things some more,
I had a couple additions to the list of approaches. So v0.2 version:
Changes:
Added approach of tcl library
Added approach of just porting programs which play entire files
Added disadvantages about source-less distributions
Added ads/disads about event-loops in ports
====
Change the device driver so that multiple access is allowed.
Advantages: no applications need to be changed. Addresses the
most obvious problem with the least amount of effort.
Disadvantages: terrible design -- that kind of functionality should
_not go in a device driver. Doesn't address all the
problems. Not beneficial outside the FreeBSD world.
Dangerous -- bugs in tricky algorithms could cause system
to crash.
Implement a dynamically-loadable device driver that allows multiple
access.
Advantages: no applications need to be changed.
Disadvantages: Still not a good design. Doesn't address all the
problems. Not beneficial outside the FreeBSD world. Requires
additional non-trivial work to make the sound driver dynamic
(although I think this should be done by someone anyway).
Still dangerous.
Port all the applications to use NAS (or rplay, kaudioserver, etc.).
Advantages: Moves to more X-like model.
Disadvantages: SERIOUS porting effort. Locks into one audio API
(which may not end up being standard). Such major changes
may not be accepted back into code base by original
developers. Existing APIs are still fairly low-level. Chosen
audio interface must be debugged (both client and server),
potentially enhanced to support all existing device-level
functionality. Porting may involve fundamental changes
to support asynchronous event handling. No port possible
for sourceless programs (e.g. x11amp).
Develop toolkit-level API, port all to use that API, implement
on top of one or more audio server formats. Ultimately, create
multiple language bindings.
Advantages: Moves to more tk-like model. Programs that use
audio in a simple way (e.g. playing a sound) may require
very simple changes, promoting acceptance by original application
developers. Eases cross-platform (i.e. beyond UNIX) implementations.
Easy to switch low-level interfaces to use the best (most
robust and/or functional). Conceivably possible to avoid
changing event loop when porting code, by forking (yecch).
Disadvantages: SERIOUS development effort. Non-trivial porting
effort. For audio-intensive applications (timidity, speak freely,
etc.), not likely to be accepted back into original codebase
(until toolkit becomes established). Proliferation of
libraries either bloats code, or causes installation
problems (with dynamic libraries). No port possible
for sourceless programs (e.g. x11amp).
Develop toolkit-level TCL extension on top of existing server interface.
Port simple applications to use TCL.
Advantages: Moves most to tk-like model. Possible to develop very
clean interface, since TCL already uses event loop. Potentially
extensible to other platforms that use tk -- perl, etc. New
applications can be developed quickly.
Disadvantages: Restricted initially to TCL code. Audio output only
sharable with other applications that can use TCL.
Standardize on NAS (or whatever) in FreeBSD, port simplest
audio programs (those that currently invoke "cat $* > /dev/audio",
or something similar) to use "auplay" (or equivalent for
appropriate server).
Advantages: Ports are trivial. Least amount of effort.
Disadvantages: Many interesting programs (timidity, speak freely,
x11amp, etc.) do more than just cat a file. Audio output only
sharable with other applications that use NAS. Possibly choose
wrong server to standardize on (since trivial programs don't
exercise interface enough to reveal lack of robustness/functionality).
--
Steven
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Subject: Re: How can we switch to a higher-level audio interface?
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> [Summary: the current standard of interacting directly with the
> audio device sucks. What approach can we take to improve it,
> if any?]
>
> As I've been experimenting more with various audio-related pieces
> of software in the last few months, I've become more and more
> concerned with the fact that there is an increasing body of software
> that uses a _really_ broken approach to sound, namely, to open the
> device directly. This has three serious problems: it doesn't work
> over the network, only one application at a time can play a sound,
> and it is a low-level API. All of these problems used to exist
> for graphics, which was of course why X was developed.
>
> There have been various solutions proposed -- the Network Audio
> Server is probably the most advanced, but development/maintenance
there is one big problem with audio: unless video, you want real time
response and a userspace server cannot always help you, let alone the
jitter and losses you can have with a networked audio server. Also,
there is no equivalent of the "current window"/"input focus" for
audio: all output is mixed together.
This in my opinion explains why no equivalent of X has become a
standard.
cheers
luigi
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From: grady@xcf.berkeley.edu (Steven Grady)
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> there is one big problem with audio: unless video, you want real time
> response and a userspace server cannot always help you, let alone the
> jitter and losses you can have with a networked audio server.
It's true you are not guaranteed a real-time response (although FreeBSD
does have real-time scheduling, or at least some indications, eg. the
man page for rtprio; I don't know anything about it). But a
well-written server is not likely to have jitter or losses -- it should
certainly be able to keep the buffer filled; and if it can't, then an
application program certainly couldn't do any better. So I don't think
that's an excuse.
> Also, there is no equivalent of the "current window"/"input focus" for
> audio: all output is mixed together.
Agreed, but to me this is an interesting design problem, not an
insurmountable obstacle. For instance, perhaps you need a "source
manager" instead of a "window manager". In X, you can work without a
window manager, but it will be painful. The source manager could allow
you to select one of n source audio streams as the foreground, and have
that one have the highest relative volume. If you don't have one
running, everything has the same volume.
This idea is off the top of my head; I'm sure people could come up with
better solutions. Again, the point is that there are indeed
interesting problems (some of which the people who've worked on NAS and
other technologies have already thought about), but they do not mean
that no good solution is possible.
(To take the simplest case -- Windows is a proof by example -- at least
it's possible to have multiple simultaneous sounds. I sure hope we
could do better than Microsoft...)
Steven
"`Simpson', eh? I'll remember that name!"
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Subject: Re: bt848 broken ?
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On 2 Nov, Gianmarco Giovannelli wrote:
> It's a couple of days that I receive this error when I try to compile the kernel
> (cvsupped twice a day, last five minutes ago 981102 18:45 CET)
>
> .c ../../libkern/strcat.c ../../libkern/strcmp.c ../../libkern/strcpy.c
> ../../libkern/strlen.c ../../libkern/strncmp.c ../../libkern/strncpy.c
> ../../libkern/udivdi3.c ../../libkern/umoddi3.c swapkernel.c ioconf.c param.c
> vnode_if.c config.c
> ../../pci/brooktree848.c:361: smbus_if.h: No such file or directory
> ../../pci/brooktree848.c:362: iicbus_if.h: No such file or directory
> ../../pci/bt848_i2c.c:61: iicbb_if.h: No such file or directory
> ../../pci/bt848_i2c.c:62: smbus_if.h: No such file or directory
> mkdep: compile failed
> *** Error code 1
>
you need to add the smbus0 and iicbus0 devices, like so:
controller smbus0
device smb0 at smbus?
controller iicbus0
device ic0 at iicbus?
device iic0 at iicbus?
device iicsmb0 at iicbus?
device iicbb0 at iicbus?
i don't know if you need all of the devices, but they converted the
bktr driver to use thew common iicbus code.
enjoy
--
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Student, University of Maryland garman@earthling.net
And now... for the stupid-patent-of-the-week: Whois: JAG145
"...an attache case with destruct means for destroying the contents
therein in response to a signal" -- patent no. US3643609, filed in 1969
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On 02-Nov-98 Steven Grady wrote:
> Sorry to reply to my own e-mail, but in thinking about things some more,
> I had a couple additions to the list of approaches. So v0.2 version:
Hmm..
I wonder if its possible to do something like the moused program, execept in
reverse.
What I mean is the /dev/{audio,dsp,...}0 become a special device which just
feeds its input (ie audio from programs) to a userland demon (yeah, wow, no
real time, but I don't think thats much of a problem), which does the mixing
and plays the sound back to the 'real' audio device.
This would have to have special hooks to cope with ioctl's etc. which I'm not
sure is feasable..
Also new clients could use an audio library which talks directly to the sound
demon.
This would have the advantages of being both backwards compatible and removing
the exclusivity of sound apps...
Of course you could probably take an existing sound demon (NAS, esound, etc..)
and add this functionality to it which would probably be easier :)
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Daniel wrote
> I wonder if its possible to do something like the moused program
> execept in reverse.
Well, the latest version of the OSS drivers support 'software mixing'
You can play multiple audio streams at the same time and the driver
mixes them together and sends the combined stream to the sound card.
Bye
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To: Roger Hardiman <roger@cs.strath.ac.uk>
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On 03-Nov-98 Roger Hardiman wrote:
> > I wonder if its possible to do something like the moused program
> > execept in reverse.
> Well, the latest version of the OSS drivers support 'software mixing'
>
> You can play multiple audio streams at the same time and the driver
> mixes them together and sends the combined stream to the sound card.
>
> Bye
> Roger
Yeah, true, but I don't like having that stuff in the kernel :)
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Hi, my name is Johan Kruger and i have been trying to get my TV card to
work for nearly 6 months now
without avail. I get it to start up BUT i cannot change the frequency. I
have tried to specify the frequency on the command line as well as in
the Fxtv rc file, but it stays on 0. If i choose a frequency that is
specified
as 99(f500.0) in the rc file Fxtv for example, and i choose 99, it
gives me 0.00 instead of 500.00. I can't
seem to change any frequency, unless they start broadcasting on f0.00 i
won't be able to recieve anything
and i think that it's highly unlikely that SABC ( South Africa ) will
start doing that ;-) .
So, that is why i only see (snow - color'd snow that is ).
I Dindoes it works fine, do you perhaps have a solution for me in
FreeBSD pleassseeee.
We use PAL I in south Africa, ( that selects fine in BSD )
Thanx for listening... :-)
Johan Kruger
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I'm curious about the status of support for the CS4235 (as found in the
AOpen 3D Sound Card, a fairly generic MSS sound card). In testing them
under 3.0, I've found that audio playback works like a charm, but we're
encountering some problems with audio recording from /dev/audio.
Recording from /dev/dsp works perfectly.
We're testing it using the 'vat' from the ports collection; the
ever-so-symptom is that it plain won't record. :) The hardware is set up
properly (as tested by recording from /dev/dsp).
The soundcard is found as:
CSN 1 Vendor ID: CSCd925 [0x25d9630e] Serial 0xffffffff Comp ID: @@@0000
[0x00000000]
mss_attach <CS4235>1 at 0x530 irq 5 dma 1:0 flags 0x10
pcm1 (CS423x/Yamaha <CS4235> sn 0xffffffff) at 0x530-0x537 irq 5 drq 1
flags 0x10 on isa
Any thoughts? (please CC: replies to me; I'm not on -multimedia).
There's a bit of an ongoing discussion about this in -multimedia; see:
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=14567+0+/usr/local/www/db/text/1998/freebsd-multimedia/19981025.freebsd-multimedia
for more information about the CS423x.
-Dave
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I was just talking with an ex-coworker of mine who now works for Ritual.
Ritual is the company who is making Sin. They of course are planning on
making a Linux version of Sin just like there is a Linux version of Quake
2. He says that Ritual would like to support as many platforms as
possible. No guarantees, of course.
Once it's ported to Linux, it'd probably be very trivial to port it to
FreeBSD 3.0. We'd just need whoever was working on the GLIDE driver for
FreeBSD to resurface again and complete their work. If we could get the
minigl ported to FreeBSD it would be a great speed boost too. Any OpenGL
hardware acceleration under FreeBSD would indeed help Sin getting a better
chance of being ported.
Also, he says that they've gotten thousands of requests for a Linux
version but very little for FreeBSD. Let your voices be heard!
IRC: Schrade E-Mail: schrade@schrade.com <URL:http://www.schrade.com/>
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Subject: Re: CS 4235 (AOpen 3D Sound card) support
To: danderse@cs.utah.edu (David G Andersen)
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 19:15:01 +0100 (MET)
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> I'm curious about the status of support for the CS4235 (as found in the
> AOpen 3D Sound Card, a fairly generic MSS sound card). In testing them
> under 3.0, I've found that audio playback works like a charm, but we're
not having one i cannot test it -- i have a 4236 and a 4237 and both
work for me with vat (the one in -stable or 2.2.7 -- i am not sure if
the vat port for 3.0 has the right patches).
> encountering some problems with audio recording from /dev/audio.
> Recording from /dev/dsp works perfectly.
also strange, since the only difference is in setting the data format.
can you try the following
cat /dev/dsp1 > /dev/dsp1
cat /dev/dspW1 > /dev/dspW1
cat /dev/audio1 > /dev/audio1
and see which one works.
Actually I found some chipsets (e.g. opti931) where there is apparently
a bug (either in the chip or in the driver, but i suspect the former)
and you cannot select a compressed mode (ULAW) on both play&rec;
because the MSS driver defaults to use the same mode for play&rec even
if you use half duples, this might cause problems.
However the 4236 and 4237 work perfectly fine.
cheers
luigi
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Subject: Re: CS 4235 (AOpen 3D Sound card) support
To: luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it (Luigi Rizzo)
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 14:18:17 -0700 (MST)
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Lo and behold, Luigi Rizzo once said:
>
> > encountering some problems with audio recording from /dev/audio.
> > Recording from /dev/dsp works perfectly.
>
> also strange, since the only difference is in setting the data format.
>
> can you try the following
>
> cat /dev/dsp1 > /dev/dsp1
> cat /dev/dspW1 > /dev/dspW1
> cat /dev/audio1 > /dev/audio1
>
> and see which one works.
All of the above work like a charm.
> Actually I found some chipsets (e.g. opti931) where there is apparently
> a bug (either in the chip or in the driver, but i suspect the former)
> and you cannot select a compressed mode (ULAW) on both play&rec;
> because the MSS driver defaults to use the same mode for play&rec even
> if you use half duples, this might cause problems.
> However the 4236 and 4237 work perfectly fine.
I tried with vat to use both full and half duplex to no avail. Also
tried recording locally with nas's audemo, with no happy results. I
haven't tried ioctl'ing it into ulaw and catting it; does that seem like
the logical next thing to try?
-Dave
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Subject: Re: CS 4235 (AOpen 3D Sound card) support
To: danderse@cs.utah.edu (David G Andersen)
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 20:39:00 +0100 (MET)
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> Lo and behold, Luigi Rizzo once said:
> >
> > > encountering some problems with audio recording from /dev/audio.
> > > Recording from /dev/dsp works perfectly.
> >
> > also strange, since the only difference is in setting the data format.
> >
> > can you try the following
> >
> > cat /dev/dsp1 > /dev/dsp1
> > cat /dev/dspW1 > /dev/dspW1
> > cat /dev/audio1 > /dev/audio1
> >
> > and see which one works.
>
> All of the above work like a charm.
thats the worst case for the driver -- you are using it in full duplex
and with all modes. there must be something going wrong with your apps
perhaps ?
> I tried with vat to use both full and half duplex to no avail. Also
> tried recording locally with nas's audemo, with no happy results. I
nas is not well tested.
> haven't tried ioctl'ing it into ulaw and catting it; does that seem like
> the logical next thing to try?
yes, but it is easier to make mistakes doing ioctl()s... try use the
"pcmio" program (from the snd98xxxx.tgz distribution on my web pages)
cheers
luigi
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Hello!
I have bouth a card and camera for internet use. This is bt848 v.1.0 and
we get following message when we start the software; "Bt848: No suitable
DirectDraw provider-Overlay channel is disabled"
Then i get picture from the camera, but it has many vertical and
horisontal stripes.
What is wrong, and can i please get a better version of bt848.
Greeting
Håvard
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I have a Ess 1688 soundcard in my Ibm ThinkPad. But i'm unable to make the
sound work.. When I try to play something the program simply hangs..
Sometimes I hear 0.5 sec. of noise first!
Somebody who have an idea ?
Bye,
Nicolai Petri
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>I have a Ess 1688 soundcard in my Ibm ThinkPad. But i'm unable to make the
>sound work.. When I try to play something the program simply hangs..
>Sometimes I hear 0.5 sec. of noise first!
>Somebody who have an idea ?
Do you use pcm0 or sb0 driver?
And do you use over spec mode like 44kHz/16bit?
I have ESS 1868 with pcm0, currently pcm0 is supported only SBPro
emulation mode, up to 22kHz/8bit, I think.
Please test that mode.
Thank you
Yoshiro MIHIRA
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From: Martin Cracauer <cracauer@cons.org>
To: Ken Krebs <schrade@schrade.com>, freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject: Re: Where's that native GLIDE driver? Finish it and we might get Sin!
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In <Pine.BSF.4.05.9811031201280.17629-100000@shell3.ba.best.com>, Ken Krebs wrote:
>
> I was just talking with an ex-coworker of mine who now works for Ritual.
> Ritual is the company who is making Sin. They of course are planning on
> making a Linux version of Sin just like there is a Linux version of Quake
> 2. He says that Ritual would like to support as many platforms as
> possible. No guarantees, of course.
Great news :-)
> Once it's ported to Linux, it'd probably be very trivial to port it to
> FreeBSD 3.0. We'd just need whoever was working on the GLIDE driver for
> FreeBSD to resurface again and complete their work. If we could get the
> minigl ported to FreeBSD it would be a great speed boost too. Any OpenGL
> hardware acceleration under FreeBSD would indeed help Sin getting a better
> chance of being ported.
[I hope I'm not telling things you already know]
FreeBSD emulates Linux well enough to support Quake 2 in 3dfx and x11
mode (no soft console support).
To do this, you need a rescent version of -stable or -current.
For 3dfx support, install
ports/emulators/linux-glide
and possible
ports/emulators/linux-mesa
This installs Linux shared libs of the needed libraries. For now,
that's the only way to have 3dfx support in FreeBSD. A FreeBSD binary
will *not* be able to use glide, only Linux binaries in emulation
mode, so your request makes no sense, as sad as it may be.
> Also, he says that they've gotten thousands of requests for a Linux
> version but very little for FreeBSD. Let your voices be heard!
Well, that's normal.
I even argue that calling vendors who have Windows version only to
provide Linux *and* FreeBSD versions will further lower the possibilty
of having anything happen. Maybe FreeBSD folks are better off asking
or a Linux version as well.
If a vendor is FreeBSD-friendly, I would ask him to have a FreeBSD
test box handy during development. That way, he can ensure that none
of the obscure Linux interfaces are used and that it runs on
FreeBSD. This also lowers the possibilty that the binaries stop
working on future Linux versions. The FreeBSD development team is very
responsive when asked for extensions to the Linux emulator or to the
Linux libraries we ship with FreeBSD, just in case a feature is needed
that isn't emulated well enough.
There is other software where a native FreeBSD binary is more
important, especially everything that provides libraries to be linked
against user programs or programs that use dynamic loading of object
files. So far, none of this appies to games and even Quake 3 will move
back to interpreter-based extensions instead of linking in object
files.
Currently, as I said, there is no choice anyway, since a native
FreeBSD bainry will not be able to use glide.
But, what did happens to the efforts to have a native glide driver,
anyway?
Martin
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I rebuilt elf world and kernel with sources from about Mon. Nov.
2, 8pm eastern time. Since then, fxtv doesn't work, I just get
snow and noise.
Here's dmesg
Copyright (c) 1992-1998 FreeBSD Inc.
Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993
The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT #0: Wed Nov 4 09:26:10 EST 1998
gp@tarski.oit.umass.edu:/usr/src/sys/compile/TARSKI
Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz
CPU: Cyrix 6x86 (486-class CPU)
Origin = "CyrixInstead" DIR=0x2231 Stepping=2 Revision=2
real memory = 67108864 (65536K bytes)
FreeBSD Kernel Configuration Utility - Version 1.1
Type "help" for help.
config> intro
avail memory = 62423040 (60960K bytes)
Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xf02ac000.
Probing for devices on PCI bus 0:
chip0: <Host to PCI bridge (vendor=1039 device=5571)> rev 0x01 on pci0.0.0
chip1: <SiS 85c503> rev 0x01 on pci0.1.0
ide_pci0: <PCI IDE controller (busmaster capable)> rev 0xc1 int a irq 14 on pci0.1.1
vga0: <Cirrus Logic GD5446 SVGA controller> rev 0x00 on pci0.11.0
bktr0: <BrookTree 878> rev 0x02 int a irq 11 on pci0.13.0
bti2c0: <bt848 Hard/Soft I2C controller>
iicbb0: <I2C generic bit-banging driver> on bti2c0
iicbus0: <Philips I2C bus> on iicbb0 addr 0xf0
Probing for devices on iicbus0: <a0> <a1> <c2> <c3>
iicsmb0: <I2C to SMB bridge> on iicbus0
smbus0: <System Management Bus> on iicsmb0
smbus1: <System Management Bus> on bti2c0
Intel Smart Video III/VideoLogic Captivator PCI, <none> tuner.
Probing for PnP devices:
CSN 1 Vendor ID: CTL00c3 [0xc3008c0e] Serial 0x1816328a Comp ID: PNPb02f [0x2fb0d041]
Probing for devices on the ISA bus:
sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard
sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0>
sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa
sio0: type 16550A
sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa
sio1: type 16550A
ppc: parallel port found at 0x378
ppc0 at 0x378 irq 7 on isa
ppc0: W83877F chipset (EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode
nlpt0: <generic printer> on ppbus 0
nlpt0: Interrupt-driven port
ppi0: <generic parallel i/o> on ppbus 0
lppps0: <Pulse per second Timing Interface> on ppbus 0
vpo0: <Iomega VPI0 Parallel to SCSI interface> on ppbus 0
vpo0: EPP 1.9 mode
plip0: <PLIP network interface> on ppbus 0
wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 flags 0x80ff on isa
wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): <Maxtor 83240D3>, 32-bit, multi-block-16
wd0: 3090MB (6328665 sectors), 6697 cyls, 15 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S
wdc0: unit 1 (atapi): <CD-916E/ATK/11A>, removable, intr, dma, iordy
wcd0: 2062KB/sec, 120KB cache, audio play, 255 volume levels, ejectable tray
wcd0: no disc inside, unlocked
wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 flags 0x80ff on isa
wdc1: unit 0 (wd1): <Maxtor 82100A4>, 32-bit, multi-block-16
wd1: 2014MB (4124736 sectors), 4092 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S
fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa
fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold
fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in
sb0 at 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 on isa
snd0: <SoundBlaster 16 4.16>
sbxvi0 at ? drq 5 on isa
snd0: <SoundBlaster 16 4.16>
sbmidi0 at 0x330 on isa
snd0: <SoundBlaster MPU-401>
awe0 at 0x620 on isa
AWE32: not detected
opl0 at 0x388 on isa
snd0: <Yamaha OPL3 FM>
npx0 flags 0x7 on motherboard
npx0: INT 16 interface
Waiting 2 seconds for SCSI devices to settle
da0 at vpo0 bus 0 target 6 lun 0
da0: <IOMEGA ZIP 100 D.13> Removable Direct Access SCSI2 device
da0: 96MB (196608 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 96C)
changing root device to wd0s1a
ffs_mountfs: superblock updated for soft updates
ffs_mountfs: superblock updated for soft updates
ffs_mountfs: superblock updated for soft updates
My card is a Hauppauge WinTV with an 878 chip, but dmesg reports the
"Intel" line even when I use "options OVERRIDE_CARD=??" and
"options OVERRIDE_TUNER=??" (I'm using the question marks because
I don't remember the numbers now, but I used the numbers from
brooktree848.c. for CARD_HAUPPAUGE and PHILIPS_FR...something.)
The Intel information also stuck when I tried #define
OVERRIDE_CARD CARD_HAUPPAUGE in brooktree848.c. I assume it's
because (though no C-programmer I) the function
locate_tuner_address( bktr ) after "checkTuner" at line 4581
doesn't find anything so the values for the card get set back to
Intel--no tuner. Got no relief from messing with sysctl -w hw.bt848.*
either.
Anyway, here's the output of fxtv -debug startup
Fxtv v0.47
DETECTED CAPTURE CARD(S) [DRIVER PROBES]:
bktr0: <BrookTree 878> rev 0x02 int a irq 11 on pci0.13.0
bti2c0: <bt848 Hard/Soft I2C controller>
SYSCTL MIB VALUES:
kern.version: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT #0: Wed Nov 4 09:26:10 EST 1998
gp@tarski.oit.umass.edu:/usr/src/sys/compile/TARSKI
hw.bt848.card: -1
hw.bt848.tuner: -1
hw.bt848.reverse_mute: -1
hw.bt848.format: -1
TUNER SIGNATURE (0x01 - 0xff):
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
TUNER I2C DEVICES FOUND AT:
CAPTURE CARD EEPROM CONTENTS:
Read 0 EEPROM bytes
Supported RGB Capture Pixel Formats:
bpp Bpp RGB Masks Swap
--- --- ---------------------------- ----
15 2 00007c00, 000003e0, 0000001f NB
16 2 0000f800, 000007e0, 0000001f NB
24 3 00ff0000, 0000ff00, 000000ff B
24 4 00ff0000, 0000ff00, 000000ff NBWb
Supported YUV Capture Pixel Formats:
YUVSize HSamp VSamp Pack CompOrder T->B L->R YTrans
------- ----- ----- ------ --------- ---- ---- ------
8,8,8 1,2,2 1,1,1 PLANAR YUV Y Y N
8,8,8 1,2,2 1,1,1 PACKED YUYV Y Y N
8,8,8 1,2,2 1,2,2 PLANAR YUV Y Y N
XSERVER: 'The XFree86 Project, Inc' v3320, Protocol Verson 11.0
Screen Res = 1024x768, DefDepth = 16; NumScreens = 1
Bitmap Unit/BitOrder/Pad = 32/LSBFirst/32, Image ByteOrder = LSBFirst
XF86DGAQueryVersion() succeeded - vers = 1.00
BaseAddr = 0xe0000000, Pitch = 1024, BankSize/RamSize = 4194304/4194304
Rating Available Visuals:
Rating Class bpp Bpp R,G,B Masks Swap DirectVid
------ ----------- --- --- ---------------------------- ---- ---------
5 TrueColor 16 2,2 0000f800, 000007e0, 0000001f -- Yes
Default Visual is 16-bpp TrueColor
XF86VidModeQueryVersion() succeeded - version = 0.08
I also see this when I start fxtv from an xterm:
ioctl(BT848_SAUDIO, 129) failed: Input/output error
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Greg
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Greg,
your analysis of the tuner detection code was correct.
It appears the new i2c code used has broken the tuner detection on
the bt848 driver.
Although I have worked all all the recent bt848 driver fixes, I had
nothing to do with the i2c bus changes so I cannot help. I do not run
the latest kernel either :-(
> Intel Smart Video III/VideoLogic Captivator PCI, <none> tuner.
As it says, no tuner.
Looks like the iicbus code is not passing the right results back
to the bt848 driver.
You should have got some progress from setting
sysctl -w hw.bt848.card = 2
sysctl -w hw.bt848.tuner = yyy
where yyy is all values from 1 to 11
Alternativly, go back to the old bt848 driver (rev 1.56 I think) for
/sys/pci/brooktree848.c
Then re-build.
Hopefully, some of the i2c bus guys can help.
Roger
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On Mon, Nov 02, 1998 at 07:28:01PM -0500, garman@earthling.net wrote:
Thanks Jason. I forgot to update LINT when commiting bktr changes. done.
>
>On 2 Nov, Gianmarco Giovannelli wrote:
>> It's a couple of days that I receive this error when I try to compile the kernel
>> (cvsupped twice a day, last five minutes ago 981102 18:45 CET)
>>
>> .c ../../libkern/strcat.c ../../libkern/strcmp.c ../../libkern/strcpy.c
>> ../../libkern/strlen.c ../../libkern/strncmp.c ../../libkern/strncpy.c
>> ../../libkern/udivdi3.c ../../libkern/umoddi3.c swapkernel.c ioconf.c param.c
>> vnode_if.c config.c
>> ../../pci/brooktree848.c:361: smbus_if.h: No such file or directory
>> ../../pci/brooktree848.c:362: iicbus_if.h: No such file or directory
>> ../../pci/bt848_i2c.c:61: iicbb_if.h: No such file or directory
>> ../../pci/bt848_i2c.c:62: smbus_if.h: No such file or directory
>> mkdep: compile failed
>> *** Error code 1
>>
>you need to add the smbus0 and iicbus0 devices, like so:
>
>controller smbus0
>device smb0 at smbus?
>
>controller iicbus0
>device ic0 at iicbus?
>device iic0 at iicbus?
>device iicsmb0 at iicbus?
>device iicbb0 at iicbus?
This last declaration should be rather 'controller iicbb0'
>
>i don't know if you need all of the devices, but they converted the
>bktr driver to use thew common iicbus code.
Actually, "only" iicbus, smbus, iicbb are mandatory.
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On Wed, Nov 04, 1998 at 05:41:42PM +0000, Roger Hardiman wrote:
> Greg,
> (...)
>
> > Intel Smart Video III/VideoLogic Captivator PCI, <none> tuner.
> As it says, no tuner.
>
> Looks like the iicbus code is not passing the right results back
> to the bt848 driver.
>
>
> You should have got some progress from setting
> sysctl -w hw.bt848.card = 2
> sysctl -w hw.bt848.tuner = yyy
>
> where yyy is all values from 1 to 11
Nope. I tried it again, but it doesn't help.
>
> Alternativly, go back to the old bt848 driver (rev 1.56 I think) for
> /sys/pci/brooktree848.c
> Then re-build.
I started to worry about the hardware when sysctl didn't help. I
just dug out a previously built aout kernel, and it works, so my
card is OK.
Anyway, thanks alot for the quick reply. For now, I'll just boot
the old kernel when I want TV and keep an eye out on the lists
for further developments.
Greg
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Subject: Getting VAT To work on Libretto
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I'm trying to get VAT to work on a Libretto. I did the standard list scan
thing and saw that there were lots of other messages with the same sort of
problem, but the searcher didn't find any response messages. :-( Hope
this isn't a faq, but...
I installed a clean FreeBSD 2.2.7 install (I tried to install 3.0 but the
installation would not work and I ran out of debug time). I then
installed Luigi's snd kit "snd980607.tgz" and built the kernel. After
doing the MAKEDEV and rebooting and twiddling some stuff (I had to do the
PnP approach; configuring the pcm0 device "normally" didn't work) I'm now
able to cat .au files to /dev/audio and all works just fine.
Unfortunately vat doesnt' work. The vi meters don't move and I get no
audio. If I try generating local test tones from within vat I still get
nothing. The only indicator I get is the message "How strange...
mss_intr with no reason!" when I start vat.
There's a list message from Mark Ganzer back in April on this subject, but
no response that I can find. Can anyone tell me what I'm doin' wrong?
Is there a page out there that describes how to get it working (if not,
I'm willin' to type... :-)
Much obliged,
Mike
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I'd like to understand better which entries I have to put in my kernel
to let my Miro PCTV works again ...
The LINT is not too much clear about ...
Thanks for attention...
Best Regards,
Gianmarco Giovannelli (http://www.giovannelli.it/~gmarco)
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> I'm trying to get VAT to work on a Libretto. I did the standard list scan
you don't say which libretto... i have things worling on a -50 which
uses a Yamaha codec set in non-PnP mode; the bios in my case programs
the codec to use only one DMA channel so i had to override the
configuration to use two (non-pnp -- this is done by using the "flags"
field in the config).
Your case could be different as you mention the need for PnP...
luigi
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I'm using the -70. Works with normal audio files so I assume the drivers
working OK. Is there any "shim-ware" needed to do vat? I remember
something in the older drivers about needing a specific mixer program
running; is that still the case? I'm running vat from the packages
distribution.
Thanks!
Mike
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luigi> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 20:51:07 +0100 (MET)
luigi> From: Luigi Rizzo <luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it>
luigi> To: Mike Newell <mnewell@newell.arlington.va.us>
luigi> Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG
luigi> Subject: Re: Getting VAT To work on Libretto
luigi>
luigi> > I'm trying to get VAT to work on a Libretto. I did the standard list scan
luigi>
luigi> you don't say which libretto... i have things worling on a -50 which
luigi> uses a Yamaha codec set in non-PnP mode; the bios in my case programs
luigi> the codec to use only one DMA channel so i had to override the
luigi> configuration to use two (non-pnp -- this is done by using the "flags"
luigi> field in the config).
luigi>
luigi> Your case could be different as you mention the need for PnP...
luigi>
luigi> luigi
luigi>
Much obliged,
Mike
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> I'm using the -70. Works with normal audio files so I assume the drivers
> working OK. Is there any "shim-ware" needed to do vat? I remember
well you need the latest fixes to "vat" which are in -stable almost for
sure, but i don't know if they are in 2.2.7 -- in any case, generally
you have these problems when the codec is not using the secondary DMA
channel. The pcm driver in -stable has fixes specific for the Yamaha
codec which should be on the libretto. Please try that (and the -stable
version of vat) and send me the dmesg output if things do not work.
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I don't see anything in /usr/src/sys/i386/isa/snd/CARDS (or any other
file in that directory) that says anything about Turtle Beach. This
looks like a rather nice (isa) card [even if it lists at US$350-$400].
The card has what the "docs" call a 'Turtle Beach 56K DSP Hurricane
Architecture" type sound chip (no mention of part numbers).
possible programming information:
http://www.rpi.edu/~veliaa/pinlinux.html
ftp://ftp.voyetra.com/pub/tbs/pinn/pnddk100.zip
http://www.voyetra-turtle-beach.com/cgi-bin/SoftCart.cgi/highband.htm?E+aa0010091
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On Fri, 6 Nov 1998, Zach Heilig wrote:
> I don't see anything in /usr/src/sys/i386/isa/snd/CARDS (or any other
> file in that directory) that says anything about Turtle Beach. This
> looks like a rather nice (isa) card [even if it lists at US$350-$400].
>
> The card has what the "docs" call a 'Turtle Beach 56K DSP Hurricane
> Architecture" type sound chip (no mention of part numbers).
This smells like a MWave.
> possible programming information:
>
> http://www.rpi.edu/~veliaa/pinlinux.html
> ftp://ftp.voyetra.com/pub/tbs/pinn/pnddk100.zip
> http://www.voyetra-turtle-beach.com/cgi-bin/SoftCart.cgi/highband.htm?E+aa0010091
If they have the specs, someone will program it ...
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On Sat, Nov 07, 1998 at 12:42:27AM -0800, Doug White wrote:
> > The card has what the "docs" call a 'Turtle Beach 56K DSP Hurricane
> > Architecture" type sound chip (no mention of part numbers).
> This smells like a MWave.
Specifically (with further reading), it uses the Motorola 56002 DSP. Given
specs like: 20 bit D/A & 20 bit A/D, > 97dB SNR, a +/- 1dB bandwidth of
10Hz to 22KHz, and full-duplex sound, it doesn't really resemble an MWave...
> If they have the specs, someone will program it ...
Well, they at least acknowledge that Linux exists (and have pointers to
preliminary linux drivers from the turtle beach website, which I picked up...
any pointers on converting a Linux driver to a FreeBSD one?). They also
supply the firmware (it seems to be 'soft' firmware.. needing to be loaded at
poweron).
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