From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Aug 9 03:50:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA06334 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Sun, 9 Aug 1998 03:50:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cyclops.xtra.co.nz (cyclops.xtra.co.nz [202.27.184.96]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA06319 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 1998 03:49:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from junkmale@pop3.xtra.co.nz) Received: from wocker (210-55-210-87.ipnets.xtra.co.nz [210.55.210.87]) by cyclops.xtra.co.nz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id WAA26847 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 1998 22:48:57 +1200 (NZST) Message-Id: <199808091048.WAA26847@cyclops.xtra.co.nz> From: "Dan Langille" Organization: DVL Software Limited To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 22:48:57 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: receiving mail directly Reply-to: junkmale@xtra.co.nz X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi. Here's a bunch of questions about my mail and how I'd like to receive it. I have a permanent connection to my ISP via ADSL. At present, all mail for my domains is delivered direct to my ISP. I then download it with an email client. One problem I have with my email is spam to old addresses which I no longer use but are part of my domain (eg. xyz@mydomain.com). What I would like to do is exercise more control over this situation. Specifically, mail addressed to dvl@mydomain.com to be bounced back to the sender, never to be seen my me again. Similary, mail to dan@mydomain.com, I'd like to let through. I've read the stuff in the handbook (17.3.3. How can I do E-Mail with a dialup PPP host? http://www.au.freebsd.org/FreeBSD/handbook/handbook253.html#497) and that solution seems to apply to me. That is, make my ISP a secondary server to myself. Does this make sense? Sendmail is up and running on my machine. Mail sent to my freebsd box gets out into the realworld. I'm guessing that what I need to do is install procmail, which is a local mail delivery agent. Is that correct? How does procmail (incoming?) differ from sendmail (outgoing)? -- Dan Langille DVL Software Limited http://www.dvl-software.com/freebsd : my [mis]adventures To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Aug 9 04:52:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA12564 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Sun, 9 Aug 1998 04:52:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from qatar.net.qa (qatar.net.qa [194.133.33.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA12532 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 1998 04:51:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sodah@qatar.net.qa) Received: from qatar.net.qa (pons@ddin.qatar.net.qa [194.133.35.231]) by qatar.net.qa (8.8.8/Internet-Qatar) with ESMTP id OAA14514 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 1998 14:52:19 +0300 (GMT) Message-ID: <35CD7F2B.38E5534B@qatar.net.qa> Date: Sun, 09 Aug 1998 13:51:29 +0300 From: Fadi Sodah X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.33 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: PortScan Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------E3EF0146E26F2232B635F324" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --------------E3EF0146E26F2232B635F324 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hi where can i get portscan for my FreeBSD 2.2.6? -- Fadi Sodah sodah@qatar.net.qa Tel: +974-712447 Doha-Qatar --------------E3EF0146E26F2232B635F324 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hi

where can i get portscan for my FreeBSD 2.2.6? 

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Fadi Sodah
sodah@qatar.net.qa
Tel: +974-712447
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  --------------E3EF0146E26F2232B635F324-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Aug 9 06:09:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA16508 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Sun, 9 Aug 1998 06:09:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (suebla.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.44.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA16503 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 1998 06:09:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sue@phoenix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from sue@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA10148; Sun, 9 Aug 1998 23:08:57 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <19980809230853.37125@welearn.com.au> Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 23:08:53 +1000 From: Sue Blake To: junkmale@xtra.co.nz Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: receiving mail directly References: <199808091048.WAA26847@cyclops.xtra.co.nz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88e In-Reply-To: <199808091048.WAA26847@cyclops.xtra.co.nz>; from Dan Langille on Sun, Aug 09, 1998 at 10:48:57PM +1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Aug 09, 1998 at 10:48:57PM +1200, Dan Langille wrote: > Hi. > > Here's a bunch of questions about my mail and how I'd like to receive it. Dan, try sending this to freebsd-questions. We don't do questions and answers in -newbies. You won't have to subscribe first, just send it and ask for email copies of replies because you're not on the list. That's normal. Your question looks pretty sensible to me, but if the folk answering -questions need any more information they'll ask for it. FWIW, my system rejects any mail sent to oldaddress@mydomain.com, and I just use sendmail, but I wouldn't trust myself to figure out how it works :-) And many thanks for the help before with Pegasus Mail. A few people have been grateful to receive your advice to use a non-proportional font like courier to get the formatting to work right! > I have a permanent connection to my ISP via ADSL. At present, all mail > for my domains is delivered direct to my ISP. I then download it with an > email client. One problem I have with my email is spam to old addresses > which I no longer use but are part of my domain (eg. xyz@mydomain.com). > > What I would like to do is exercise more control over this situation. > Specifically, mail addressed to dvl@mydomain.com to be bounced back to the > sender, never to be seen my me again. Similary, mail to dan@mydomain.com, > I'd like to let through. > > I've read the stuff in the handbook (17.3.3. How can I do E-Mail with a > dialup PPP host? > http://www.au.freebsd.org/FreeBSD/handbook/handbook253.html#497) and that > solution seems to apply to me. That is, make my ISP a secondary server to > myself. > > Does this make sense? > > Sendmail is up and running on my machine. Mail sent to my freebsd box > gets out into the realworld. I'm guessing that what I need to do is > install procmail, which is a local mail delivery agent. Is that correct? > > How does procmail (incoming?) differ from sendmail (outgoing)? > > -- > Dan Langille > DVL Software Limited > http://www.dvl-software.com/freebsd : my [mis]adventures > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message -- Regards, -*Sue*- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Aug 9 06:13:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA16990 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Sun, 9 Aug 1998 06:13:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cyclops.xtra.co.nz (cyclops.xtra.co.nz [202.27.184.96]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA16978 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 1998 06:13:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from junkmale@pop3.xtra.co.nz) Received: from wocker (210-55-210-87.ipnets.xtra.co.nz [210.55.210.87]) by cyclops.xtra.co.nz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id BAA06784; Mon, 10 Aug 1998 01:12:43 +1200 (NZST) Message-Id: <199808091312.BAA06784@cyclops.xtra.co.nz> From: "Dan Langille" Organization: DVL Software Limited To: Sue Blake Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 01:12:42 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: receiving mail directly Reply-to: junkmale@xtra.co.nz CC: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <19980809230853.37125@welearn.com.au> References: <199808091048.WAA26847@cyclops.xtra.co.nz>; from Dan Langille on Sun, Aug 09, 1998 at 10:48:57PM +1200 X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 9 Aug 98, at 23:08, Sue Blake wrote: > On Sun, Aug 09, 1998 at 10:48:57PM +1200, Dan Langille wrote: > > Hi. > > > > Here's a bunch of questions about my mail and how I'd like to receive > > it. > > Dan, try sending this to freebsd-questions. We don't do questions and > answers in -newbies. You won't have to subscribe first, just send it and > ask for email copies of replies because you're not on the list. That's > normal. Your question looks pretty sensible to me, but if the folk > answering -questions need any more information they'll ask for it. Yeah, I realised that as soon as I sent it. > And many thanks for the help before with Pegasus > Mail. A few people have been grateful to receive your advice to use a > non-proportional font like courier to get the formatting to work right! > Good. Glad to know it helped others too. But it's all your fault. After all, it was you told me about the problem in the first place. -- Dan Langille DVL Software Limited http://www.dvl-software.com/freebsd : my [mis]adventures To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Aug 9 06:16:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA17318 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Sun, 9 Aug 1998 06:16:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (suebla.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.44.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA17282 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 1998 06:15:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sue@phoenix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from sue@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA10172; Sun, 9 Aug 1998 23:15:16 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <19980809231511.21925@welearn.com.au> Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 23:15:11 +1000 From: Sue Blake To: Fadi Sodah Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PortScan References: <35CD7F2B.38E5534B@qatar.net.qa> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88e In-Reply-To: <35CD7F2B.38E5534B@qatar.net.qa>; from Fadi Sodah on Sun, Aug 09, 1998 at 01:51:29PM +0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Aug 09, 1998 at 01:51:29PM +0300, Fadi Sodah wrote: > hi > > where can i get portscan for my FreeBSD 2.2.6? What is portscan? Software? If so, try http://www.freebsd.org, follow the link to "Applications", and you can search for the name. If what you need is more complicated than finding something via the web site, you'll get a better answer from freebsd-questions@freebsd.org. -- Regards, -*Sue*- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Aug 9 06:45:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA19259 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Sun, 9 Aug 1998 06:45:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (suebla.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.44.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA19252 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 1998 06:45:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sue@phoenix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from sue@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA10227; Sun, 9 Aug 1998 23:45:17 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <19980809234513.30027@welearn.com.au> Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 23:45:13 +1000 From: Sue Blake To: junkmale@xtra.co.nz Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: receiving mail directly References: <199808091048.WAA26847@cyclops.xtra.co.nz>; <19980809230853.37125@welearn.com.au> <199808091312.BAA06784@cyclops.xtra.co.nz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88e In-Reply-To: <199808091312.BAA06784@cyclops.xtra.co.nz>; from Dan Langille on Mon, Aug 10, 1998 at 01:12:42AM +1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Aug 10, 1998 at 01:12:42AM +1200, Dan Langille wrote: > On 9 Aug 98, at 23:08, Sue Blake wrote: > > Yeah, I realised that as soon as I sent it. Hehe, aint it always the way! > > And many thanks for the help before with Pegasus > > Mail. A few people have been grateful to receive your advice to use a > > non-proportional font like courier to get the formatting to work right! > > > > Good. Glad to know it helped others too. But it's all your fault. After > all, it was you told me about the problem in the first place. My fault? MY fault?? OK, I pushed a little and you swayed :-) > http://www.dvl-software.com/freebsd : my [mis]adventures Eh, what's this? Thought nobody would read down that far, eh? I know I shouldn't laugh at your misfortunes, but, well, some of it's just so close to the bone! The casually curious heading "Where's my file system?" and matter of fact observations like "mounting fd0 without a floppy gives a GPF" really cracked me up... still wiping the coffee off the monitor... Not that anything like that has *ever* happened to me. Oh no, not in the last week, anyway. -- Regards, -*Sue*- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Aug 9 07:28:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA23556 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Sun, 9 Aug 1998 07:28:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gw1.konstanz.netsurf.de (gw1.konstanz.netsurf.de [194.163.242.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA23551 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 1998 07:28:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Rainer.Duffner@konstanz.netsurf.de) Received: from duffner.konstanz.netsurf.de (surf66.konstanz.netsurf.de [194.163.242.66]) by gw1.konstanz.netsurf.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA14537; Sun, 9 Aug 1998 16:27:59 +0200 Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 15:51:39 +0200 (MESZ) From: Rainer M Duffner Subject: Re: PortScan To: Sue Blake cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19980809231511.21925@welearn.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: enigma, http://www-stud.fh-konstanz.de/~enigma X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.46] Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun 09 Aug, Sue Blake wrote: > On Sun, Aug 09, 1998 at 01:51:29PM +0300, Fadi Sodah wrote: > > hi > > > > where can i get portscan for my FreeBSD 2.2.6? > > What is portscan? Software? If so, try http://www.freebsd.org, follow > the link to "Applications", and you can search for the name. Erm, Sue... This guy seems to be from Qatar. So it may be that he has definitely not many people around to ask. Ever got mail from Qatar ? :-) > If what you need is more complicated than finding something via the web > site, you'll get a better answer from freebsd-questions@freebsd.org. Strange enough, he then posted to de-bsd-questions@freebsd.org and asked the same question in German ! (And I tried to answer) -->Never underestimate users who post to 'newbies'... cheers, Rainer -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |Rainer Duffner, E-Mail: duffner@fh-konstanz.de | | & Rainer.Duffner@konstanz.netsurf.de | |Fachhochschule Konstanz, Germany | |"What's a Network ?" - Bill Gates, early 1980s | | WWW:http://www-stud.fh-konstanz.de/~duffner | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Aug 9 10:57:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA05437 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Sun, 9 Aug 1998 10:57:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from qatar.net.qa (qatar.net.qa [194.133.33.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA05407 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 1998 10:57:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sodah@qatar.net.qa) Received: from qatar.net.qa (pons@ddbd.qatar.net.qa [194.133.35.39]) by qatar.net.qa (8.8.8/Internet-Qatar) with ESMTP id UAA19600; Sun, 9 Aug 1998 20:58:11 +0300 (GMT) Message-ID: <35CDD4F2.6AD0AF4@qatar.net.qa> Date: Sun, 09 Aug 1998 19:57:22 +0300 From: Fadi Sodah X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.33 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG, de-bsd-questions@DE.FreeBSD.ORG Subject: irc Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------592F567633C08D6C06312FF2" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --------------592F567633C08D6C06312FF2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hi when i try irc-command at the prompt , i get the msg irc: unkown host!! what could be wrong? -- Fadi Sodah sodah@qatar.net.qa Tel: +974-712447 Doha-Qatar --------------592F567633C08D6C06312FF2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hi

when i try irc-command at the prompt , i get the msg
irc: unkown host!!
what could be wrong?
  

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Fadi Sodah
sodah@qatar.net.qa
Tel: +974-712447
Doha-Qatar
  --------------592F567633C08D6C06312FF2-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Aug 9 13:08:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA18637 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Sun, 9 Aug 1998 13:08:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cyclops.xtra.co.nz (cyclops.xtra.co.nz [202.27.184.96]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA18624 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 1998 13:08:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from junkmale@pop3.xtra.co.nz) Received: from wocker (210-55-210-87.ipnets.xtra.co.nz [210.55.210.87]) by cyclops.xtra.co.nz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id IAA18649; Mon, 10 Aug 1998 08:07:21 +1200 (NZST) Message-Id: <199808092007.IAA18649@cyclops.xtra.co.nz> From: "Dan Langille" Organization: DVL Software Limited To: Sue Blake Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 08:07:19 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: receiving mail directly Reply-to: junkmale@xtra.co.nz CC: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <19980809234513.30027@welearn.com.au> References: <199808091312.BAA06784@cyclops.xtra.co.nz>; from Dan Langille on Mon, Aug 10, 1998 at 01:12:42AM +1200 X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 9 Aug 98, at 23:45, Sue Blake wrote: > > http://www.dvl-software.com/freebsd : my [mis]adventures > > Eh, what's this? Thought nobody would read down that far, eh? I know I > shouldn't laugh at your misfortunes, but, well, some of it's just so close > to the bone! The casually curious heading "Where's my file system?" and > matter of fact observations like "mounting fd0 without a floppy gives a > GPF" really cracked me up... still wiping the coffee off the monitor... > Not that anything like that has *ever* happened to me. Oh no, not in the > last week, anyway. Well, the diary is actually self-serving. I have a terrible memory when it comes to figuring out what I did. I was keeping a notebook, but I can't use the search engine on my notebook . And I figured that if I was typing my notes into the computer, it wasn't much more work to put them onto the web site. So I did. The diary has been useful when trying to explain to helpers what I've done. Also, the examples [how to install something] should prove useful to people who are doing the same things I'm doing. And I'm not doing anything that other newbies won't be trying. As usual, the biggest problem is figuring out *what* to do. Once you know that, the rest is pretty straight forward. OH, and yeah, I don't mind putting in the stupid stuff. Because that's what makes for the best reading. Glad you enjoyed it. Sorry about the coffee. You'll know next time. -- Dan Langille DVL Software Limited http://www.dvl-software.com/freebsd : my [mis]adventures To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Aug 9 13:17:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA19355 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Sun, 9 Aug 1998 13:17:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail-gw3.pacbell.net (mail-gw3.pacbell.net [206.13.28.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA19350 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 1998 13:17:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gekk0@pop.netaddress.com) From: gekk0@pop.netaddress.com Received: from rjiredff (ppp-207-214-215-120.sntc01.pacbell.net [207.214.215.120]) by mail-gw3.pacbell.net (8.8.8/8.7.1+antispam) with SMTP id NAA28538 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 1998 13:17:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980809132008.0079b8a0@pop.netaddress.com> X-Sender: gekk0@pop.netaddress.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sun, 09 Aug 1998 13:20:08 -0700 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PortScan In-Reply-To: <19980809231511.21925@welearn.com.au> References: <35CD7F2B.38E5534B@qatar.net.qa> <35CD7F2B.38E5534B@qatar.net.qa> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org A port scanner is a utility that allows someone to find out what ports are open on a selected server. There are a few portscanners in the ports collection under the security collection. At 11:15 PM 8/9/98 +1000, you wrote: >On Sun, Aug 09, 1998 at 01:51:29PM +0300, Fadi Sodah wrote: >> hi >> >> where can i get portscan for my FreeBSD 2.2.6? > >What is portscan? Software? If so, try http://www.freebsd.org, follow >the link to "Applications", and you can search for the name. > >If what you need is more complicated than finding something via the web >site, you'll get a better answer from freebsd-questions@freebsd.org. > >-- > >Regards, > -*Sue*- > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Aug 9 14:30:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA25928 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Sun, 9 Aug 1998 14:30:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp01.primenet.com (smtp01.primenet.com [206.165.6.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA25923; Sun, 9 Aug 1998 14:30:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from anxiety@primenet.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp01.primenet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA21076; Sun, 9 Aug 1998 14:30:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from ip207.atl.primenet.com(206.165.72.207), claiming to be "primenet.com" via SMTP by smtp01.primenet.com, id smtpd021061; Sun Aug 9 14:29:54 1998 Message-ID: <35CDE749.C6A072F@primenet.com> Date: Sun, 09 Aug 1998 14:15:37 -0400 From: Micah Mayo X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.6-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: CVSup/Make World help Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Howdy, I just CVSupped for the very first time and I don't know where to go from here, I went to the web page for a make world that was listed in the handbook but i got Make: don't know how to make world.. what exactly do I need to do? the cvsup directory is /home/ncvs Micah To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Aug 9 15:28:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA01083 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Sun, 9 Aug 1998 15:28:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail-gw2.pacbell.net (mail-gw2.pacbell.net [206.13.28.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA01071 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 1998 15:28:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gekk0@pop.netaddress.com) From: gekk0@pop.netaddress.com Received: from rjiredff (ppp-206-170-24-103.sntc01.pacbell.net [206.170.24.103]) by mail-gw2.pacbell.net (8.8.8/8.7.1+antispam) with SMTP id PAA16637 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 1998 15:27:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980809153001.0079d860@pop.netaddress.com> X-Sender: gekk0@pop.netaddress.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sun, 09 Aug 1998 15:30:01 -0700 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CVSup/Make World help In-Reply-To: <35CDE749.C6A072F@primenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org cd /usr/src make world watch a few movies, take a nap, etc recompile kernel reboot viva FreeBSD At 02:15 PM 8/9/98 -0400, you wrote: >Howdy, > >I just CVSupped for the very first time and I don't know where to go >from here, I went to >the web page for a make world that was listed in the handbook but i got >Make: don't know how to make world.. > >what exactly do I need to do? > >the cvsup directory is /home/ncvs > >Micah > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Aug 9 16:09:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA05495 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Sun, 9 Aug 1998 16:09:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dt053nd2.san.rr.com (dt053nd2.san.rr.com [204.210.34.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA05490 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 1998 16:09:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@dal.net) Received: from dal.net (Studded@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dt053nd2.san.rr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA10082; Sun, 9 Aug 1998 16:08:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@dal.net) Message-ID: <35CE2C07.78CB9FF0@dal.net> Date: Sun, 09 Aug 1998 16:08:55 -0700 From: Studded Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.6-STABLE-0507 i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Fadi Sodah CC: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG, de-bsd-questions@DE.FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: irc References: <35CDD4F2.6AD0AF4@qatar.net.qa> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Fadi Sodah wrote: > > hi > > when i try irc-command at the prompt , i get the msg > irc: unkown host!! > what could be wrong? Sounds like you installed an irc client that expects you to enter a hostname either at the prompt or in your environment. Try 'man irc' to see what the proper context is. If that doesn't work, try installing 'sirc' from the ports collection, it is a very easy to use IRC client. http://www.freebsd.org/ports/index.html for more information on the ports. Good luck, Doug -- *** Chief Operations Officer, DALnet IRC network *** When you don't know where you're going, every road will take you there. - Yiddish Proverb To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Aug 9 17:58:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA21170 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Sun, 9 Aug 1998 17:58:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ha1.rdc1.pa.home.com (ha1.rdc1.pa.home.com [24.2.5.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA21155 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 1998 17:57:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nellie@home.com) Received: from cc219337-a.lwmrn1.pa.home.com ([24.3.111.2]) by ha1.rdc1.pa.home.com (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA1265; Sun, 9 Aug 1998 17:57:35 -0700 Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 20:53:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Wu-Tang Forever X-Sender: nellie@cc219337-a.lwmrn1.pa.home.com To: Fadi Sodah cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG, de-bsd-questions@DE.FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: irc In-Reply-To: <35CDD4F2.6AD0AF4@qatar.net.qa> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org try irc On Sun, 9 Aug 1998, Fadi Sodah wrote: > hi > > when i try irc-command at the prompt , i get the msg > irc: unkown host!! > what could be wrong? > > > -- > Fadi Sodah > sodah@qatar.net.qa > Tel: +974-712447 > Doha-Qatar > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Aug 9 18:48:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA26159 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Sun, 9 Aug 1998 18:48:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from terminator2.xtra.co.nz (terminator2.xtra.co.nz [202.27.184.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA26150 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 1998 18:48:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from junkmale@pop3.xtra.co.nz) Received: from wocker (210-55-210-87.ipnets.xtra.co.nz [210.55.210.87]) by terminator2.xtra.co.nz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA29848; Mon, 10 Aug 1998 13:46:32 +1200 (NZST) Message-Id: <199808100146.NAA29848@terminator2.xtra.co.nz> From: "Dan Langille" Organization: DVL Software Limited To: Sue Blake Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 13:47:16 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: receiving mail directly Reply-to: junkmale@xtra.co.nz CC: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <19980809234513.30027@welearn.com.au> References: <199808091312.BAA06784@cyclops.xtra.co.nz>; from Dan Langille on Mon, Aug 10, 1998 at 01:12:42AM +1200 X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 9 Aug 98, at 23:45, Sue Blake wrote: > On Mon, Aug 10, 1998 at 01:12:42AM +1200, Dan Langille wrote: > > On 9 Aug 98, at 23:08, Sue Blake wrote: > > > > And many thanks for the help before with Pegasus > > > Mail. A few people have been grateful to receive your advice to use a > > > non-proportional font like courier to get the formatting to work > > > right! > > > > Good. Glad to know it helped others too. But it's all your fault. > > After all, it was you told me about the problem in the first place. > > My fault? MY fault?? OK, I pushed a little and you swayed :-) oh. btw, I just found out that Pegasus is completely immune to the "recently-publicized attacks against Microsoft and Netscape mail products". You may wish to see for yourself at http://www.pegasus.usa.com/. Another great NZ product. :P -- Dan Langille DVL Software Limited http://www.dvl-software.com/freebsd : my [mis]adventures To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Aug 10 02:40:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA11188 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Mon, 10 Aug 1998 02:40:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from qatar.net.qa (qatar.net.qa [194.133.33.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA11152 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 1998 02:40:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sodah@qatar.net.qa) Received: from qatar.net.qa (ddev.qatar.net.qa [194.133.35.135]) by qatar.net.qa (8.8.8/Internet-Qatar) with ESMTP id MAA13017; Mon, 10 Aug 1998 12:40:18 +0300 (GMT) Message-ID: <35CEC00D.B9CEF096@qatar.net.qa> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 12:40:29 +0300 From: Fadi Sodah X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.6-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wu-Tang Forever , Studded , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: TKIRC again References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Wu-Tang Forever wrote: > try irc > > its working....... :) but .... When i try to run tkirc, get the msg : bash$ tkirc& [1] 236 bash$ Application initialization failed: Error in startup script: can't invoke "wm" command: application has been while executing "wm geometry . 1x1+0+0" (file "/usr/local/bin/tkirc" line 8817) bash$ what shall i do? bye -fadi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Aug 10 03:06:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA14094 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Mon, 10 Aug 1998 03:06:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from tyree.iii.co.uk (tyree.iii.co.uk [195.89.149.230]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA14079; Mon, 10 Aug 1998 03:05:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@iii.co.uk) From: nik@iii.co.uk Received: from carrig.strand.iii.co.uk (carrig.strand.iii.co.uk [192.168.7.25]) by tyree.iii.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA24337; Mon, 10 Aug 1998 10:10:07 +0100 (BST) Received: (from nik@localhost) by carrig.strand.iii.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.7) id KAA03656; Mon, 10 Aug 1998 10:09:26 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <19980810100925.A3627@iii.co.uk> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 10:09:25 +0100 To: Micah Mayo , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CVSup/Make World help References: <35CDE749.C6A072F@primenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <35CDE749.C6A072F@primenet.com>; from Micah Mayo on Sun, Aug 09, 1998 at 02:15:37PM -0400 Organization: interactive investor Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Aug 09, 1998 at 02:15:37PM -0400, Micah Mayo wrote: > I just CVSupped for the very first time and I don't know where to go > from here, Are you using CVSup to download a particular version (eg, -stable), or are you using it to download the entire CVS tree? If it's the latter, you will need to 'checkout' a copy of the source code somewhere, and then make that. Something like # mkdir /usr/src # cd /usr/src # cvs -d /home/ncvs checkout -r RELENG_2_2 -d . src That last line runs 'cvs', telling it that the file repository is '/home/ncvs', that it should 'checkout' the files, place them in '.', which is the current directory, and that the FreeBSD 'src' module should be retrieved. The version (revision) retrieved is 'RELENG_2_2', which corresponds with -stable. Once the files have been checked out, you can then run 'make world', as detailed in the tutorial. N -- "So it does!" said Pooh. "It goes in!" "So it does!" said Piglet. "And it comes out!" "Doesn't it?" said Eyeore. "It goes in and out like anything." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Aug 11 03:06:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA09294 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Tue, 11 Aug 1998 03:06:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from norquay.tor.shaw.wave.ca (mail.tor.shaw.wave.ca [24.64.63.48]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA09289 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 1998 03:06:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from purebeef@shaw.wave.ca) Received: from purebeef.shaw.wave.ca ([24.64.141.183]) by norquay.tor.shaw.wave.ca (Netscape Messaging Server 3.0) with ESMTP id AAA7143; Tue, 11 Aug 1998 06:06:42 -0400 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.2 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199808091048.WAA26847@cyclops.xtra.co.nz> Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 06:03:38 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: purebeef@shaw.wave.ca Organization: York Hill Foods From: Lanny Baron To: Dan Langille Subject: RE: receiving mail directly Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 09-Aug-98 Dan Langille wrote: > Hi. > > Here's a bunch of questions about my mail and how I'd like to receive it. > > I have a permanent connection to my ISP via ADSL. At present, all mail > for my domains is delivered direct to my ISP. I then download it with an > email client. One problem I have with my email is spam to old addresses > which I no longer use but are part of my domain (eg. xyz@mydomain.com). > > What I would like to do is exercise more control over this situation. > Specifically, mail addressed to dvl@mydomain.com to be bounced back to the > sender, never to be seen my me again. Similary, mail to dan@mydomain.com, > I'd like to let through. > > I've read the stuff in the handbook (17.3.3. How can I do E-Mail with a > dialup PPP host? > I dont mean to sound harsh or negative, but do you read Sue Blake's posting about this mail list? Really you should try questions@freebsd.org lnb > -- > Dan Langille > DVL Software Limited > http://www.dvl-software.com/freebsd : my [mis]adventures > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message ----- ----- \ / \ / \ / /------\ Pure BEEF / \ | 0 0 | is \ / \ / DELICIOUS \ / \ / OO ---------------------------------- E-Mail: Lanny Baron Date: 11-Aug-98 Time: 06:02:13 This message was sent by XFMail ---------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Aug 11 07:49:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA11177 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Tue, 11 Aug 1998 07:49:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from qatar.net.qa (qatar.net.qa [194.133.33.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA11125 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 1998 07:48:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sodah@qatar.net.qa) Received: from qatar.net.qa (ddew.qatar.net.qa [194.133.35.136]) by qatar.net.qa (8.8.8/Internet-Qatar) with ESMTP id RAA26610 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 1998 17:49:09 +0300 (GMT) Message-ID: <35D059F2.F8767BB7@qatar.net.qa> Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 17:49:22 +0300 From: Fadi Sodah X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.6-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: update Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi i want set up ssh on my machine...... after downloading ssh-1.2.22.tar.gz from ftp site i run the command make but i got the msg .... " >> Checksum OK for ssh-1.2.22.tar.gz. ===> Patching for ssh-1.2.22 mv: rename /usr/ports/security/ssh/work/ssh-1.2.22/make-ssh-known-hosts.pl to /usr/ports/security/ssh/work/ssh-1.2.22/make-ssh-known-hosts.pl.in: No such file or directory *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop." hmmmm, so what could be wrong? the file ssh-1.2.22.tar.gz is under /usr/ports/distfiles .... that should be ok! i thought to resolve the prob i should update my FreeBSD.... i tried to do that but i got each time "Cannot get IP address of my own host -- is its hostname correct?" in the /etc/rc.conf, i put the line hostname="earth.blue.planet" can any one help me to install ssh and update my system? bye -fadi Nickname: pons To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Aug 11 09:22:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA28645 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Tue, 11 Aug 1998 09:22:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (suebla.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.44.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA28639 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 1998 09:22:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sue@phoenix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from sue@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA17769; Wed, 12 Aug 1998 02:21:01 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <19980812022058.55783@welearn.com.au> Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 02:20:58 +1000 From: Sue Blake To: Fadi Sodah Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: update References: <35D059F2.F8767BB7@qatar.net.qa> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88e In-Reply-To: <35D059F2.F8767BB7@qatar.net.qa>; from Fadi Sodah on Tue, Aug 11, 1998 at 05:49:22PM +0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Aug 11, 1998 at 05:49:22PM +0300, Fadi Sodah wrote: > > i want set up ssh on my machine...... Sorry Fadi, we cannot help you with problems here. Please send your questions to freebsd-questions@freebsd.org When you have a question, the people there can help. More information about freebsd-newbies is at http://www.welearn.com.au/freebsd/newbies/ -- Regards, -*Sue*- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Aug 11 13:10:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA26813 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Tue, 11 Aug 1998 13:10:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cyclops.xtra.co.nz (cyclops.xtra.co.nz [202.27.184.96]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA26794 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 1998 13:10:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from junkmale@pop3.xtra.co.nz) Received: from wocker (210-55-210-87.ipnets.xtra.co.nz [210.55.210.87]) by cyclops.xtra.co.nz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id IAA22732; Wed, 12 Aug 1998 08:09:18 +1200 (NZST) Message-Id: <199808112009.IAA22732@cyclops.xtra.co.nz> From: "Dan Langille" Organization: DVL Software Limited To: purebeef@shaw.wave.ca Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 08:09:17 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: RE: receiving mail directly Reply-to: junkmale@xtra.co.nz CC: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: References: <199808091048.WAA26847@cyclops.xtra.co.nz> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 11 Aug 98, at 6:03, Lanny Baron wrote: > I dont mean to sound harsh or negative, but do you read Sue Blake's > posting > about this mail list? Really you should try questions@freebsd.org Yep. And Sue has already directed me over to that mailing list. thanks. -- Dan Langille DVL Software Limited http://www.dvl-software.com/freebsd : my [mis]adventures To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Aug 11 19:54:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA03880 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Tue, 11 Aug 1998 19:54:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from www0g.netaddress.usa.net (www0g.netaddress.usa.net [204.68.24.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA03861 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 1998 19:54:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gekk0@usa.net) Received: (qmail 28099 invoked by uid 60001); 12 Aug 1998 02:54:17 -0000 Message-ID: <19980812025417.28098.qmail@www0g.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 207.214.213.188 by mail.netaddress.com via web-mailer(3.1) on Wed Aug 12 02:54:17 GMT 1998 Date: 11 Aug 98 19:54:17 PDT From: gekk0 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [RE: receiving mail directly] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Look into procmail...I know there is a port for it, hrm...i used to have a link to a procmail "help" page. hrm...'man procmail' ? owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG wrote: On 11 Aug 98, at 6:03, Lanny Baron wrote: > I dont mean to sound harsh or negative, but do you read Sue Blake's > posting > about this mail list? Really you should try questions@freebsd.org Yep. And Sue has already directed me over to that mailing list. thanks. -- Dan Langille DVL Software Limited http://www.dvl-software.com/freebsd : my [mis]adventures To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Aug 12 07:04:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA00469 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Wed, 12 Aug 1998 07:04:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mx.cei.gov.cn ([203.207.119.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA29994 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 1998 07:02:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peihanw@mx.cei.gov.cn) Received: from wph.bbs.edu.cn (dialuser200.gb.com.cn [203.93.18.200]) by mx.cei.gov.cn (8.7.5+2.6Wbeta6/3.4W CEI-SIC 96110613) with SMTP id WAA09029 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 1998 22:12:04 +0800 (CST) Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 21:57:44 +0800 (CST) From: Peihan Wang X-Sender: root@wph.bbs.edu.cn Reply-To: Peihan Wang To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: PS1 (command line prompt) in .profile Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello , gurus ! I am using bash (version: 2.01) on my 2.2.6 box. I put the following line in my .profile: PS1='`pwd`$ ' It works well in console mode, But after I start X it does not take any effect in xterm. By the way, I am using lesstif as my window manager. I do not know what to do :-( Thanks. Peihan Wang To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Aug 12 08:08:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA08731 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Wed, 12 Aug 1998 08:08:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from superior.mooseriver.com (superior.mooseriver.com [208.138.27.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA08726 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 1998 08:08:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jgrosch@superior.mooseriver.com) Received: (from jgrosch@localhost) by superior.mooseriver.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA19175; Wed, 12 Aug 1998 08:08:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jgrosch) Message-ID: <19980812080808.C19033@mooseriver.com> Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 08:08:08 -0700 From: Josef Grosch To: Peihan Wang , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PS1 (command line prompt) in .profile Reply-To: jgrosch@mooseriver.com References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Peihan Wang on Wed, Aug 12, 1998 at 09:57:44PM +0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Aug 12, 1998 at 09:57:44PM +0800, Peihan Wang wrote: > > Hello , gurus ! > > I am using bash (version: 2.01) on my 2.2.6 box. > I put the following line in my .profile: > > PS1='`pwd`$ ' > > It works well in console mode, But after I start X > it does not take any effect in xterm. By the way, > I am using lesstif as my window manager. I do not > know what to do :-( Read your man page. Bash uses 2 init file, .bashrc and .bash_profile. .bash_profile gets run when you first login. .bashrc get run for each term that your account/process create. So in your .bash_profile you would have the line export PS1='`pwd`$ ' That should do it Josef -- Josef Grosch | Another day closer to a | FreeBSD 2.2.7 jgrosch@MooseRiver.com | Micro$oft free world | UNIX for the masses To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Aug 12 14:40:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA17825 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Wed, 12 Aug 1998 14:40:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gw1.konstanz.netsurf.de (gw1.konstanz.netsurf.de [194.163.242.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA17816 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 1998 14:40:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Rainer.Duffner@konstanz.netsurf.de) Received: from duffner.konstanz.netsurf.de (surf88.konstanz.netsurf.de [194.163.242.88]) by gw1.konstanz.netsurf.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA14620; Wed, 12 Aug 1998 23:40:23 +0200 Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 22:40:47 +0200 (MESZ) From: Rainer M Duffner Subject: Re: CVSup/Make World help To: gekk0@pop.netaddress.com cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980809153001.0079d860@pop.netaddress.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: enigma, http://www-stud.fh-konstanz.de/~enigma X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.46] Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon 10 Aug, gekk0@pop.netaddress.com wrote: > cd /usr/src > make world > > watch a few movies, take a nap, etc Pahh - it doesn't even take 3h with mine. :-))) (in single-user, /usr mounted asnc and 10 cc's a time) > recompile kernel > reboot > > viva FreeBSD Gone are the days, one needed 6 days.... OK, better would be: shutdown -now mount -u -o async /usr (or wherever your source lies) make world -j10 If you live in a country, where power-supply sometimes drops: leave out the -o asnyc bits...... cheers, Rainer -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |Rainer Duffner, E-Mail: duffner@fh-konstanz.de | | & Rainer.Duffner@konstanz.netsurf.de | |Fachhochschule Konstanz, Germany | |"What's a Network ?" - Bill Gates, early 1980s | | WWW:http://www-stud.fh-konstanz.de/~duffner | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Aug 12 17:04:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA09219 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Wed, 12 Aug 1998 17:04:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.cybcon.com (mail.cybcon.com [205.147.64.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA09214 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 1998 17:04:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wwoods@cybcon.com) Received: from support1.cybcon.com (support1.cybcon.com [205.147.76.99]) by mail.cybcon.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id RAA22489; Wed, 12 Aug 1998 17:03:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 17:02:43 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: wwoods@cybcon.com From: William Woods To: Rainer M Duffner Subject: Re: CVSup/Make World help Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG, gekk0@pop.netaddress.com Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org - > If you live in a country, where power-supply sometimes drops: leave out > the -o asnyc bits...... > I have herd about this, what exactly is async mount? --------------------- William Woods Date: 12-Aug-98 / Time: 16:57:41 --> FreeBSD 3.0 CURRENT <-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Aug 13 00:49:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA23120 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Thu, 13 Aug 1998 00:49:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mx.cei.gov.cn ([203.207.119.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA23115 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 1998 00:49:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peihanw@mx.cei.gov.cn) Received: from wph.bbs.edu.cn (pm4port5.cei.gov.cn [203.207.69.99]) by mx.cei.gov.cn (8.7.5+2.6Wbeta6/3.4W CEI-SIC 96110613) with SMTP id PAA11081; Thu, 13 Aug 1998 15:59:07 +0800 (CST) Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 15:44:46 +0800 (CST) From: Peihan Wang X-Sender: root@wph.bbs.edu.cn To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG cc: jgrosch@mooseriver.com, mhenry@white.ug.cs.usyd.edu.au Subject: RE: Re: PS1 (command line prompt) in .profile Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >> >> Hello , gurus ! >> >> I am using bash (version: 2.01) on my 2.2.6 box. >> I put the following line in my .profile: >> >> PS1='`pwd`$ ' >> >> It works well in console mode, But after I start X >> it does not take any effect in xterm. By the way, >> I am using lesstif as my window manager. I do not >> know what to do :-( >> --------------------------- Josef's Answer -------------------- > >Read your man page. Bash uses 2 init file, .bashrc and .bash_profile. >.bash_profile gets run when you first login. .bashrc get run for each >term that your account/process create. So in your .bash_profile you >would have the line > > export PS1='`pwd`$ ' > >That should do it > -------------------------- Henry's Answer -------------------- > >You need to give the -ls argument to xterm: > >xterm -ls > >This indicates that the shell in the xterm is a login shell, >and thus it will read your .profile. > ################################################################ Thank you very much ! I write the following trinket as a gift to all FreeBSD users. It is very primitive and everyone can modify it for his/her own purpose. // file name : my-path-prompt.cc // last update : Aug/13/1998 // author : Peihan Wang , // This program is derived from pwd. // Sometimes when you set PS1='`pwd`$ ' in your .profile or .bashrc, // it is very annoying that while you were doing something // in a relatively deep directory the PATH prompt is so long // that cause your eyes dizzy. // So, compile this program and put it in ~/bin/ and modify your // profile. (PS1='`my-path-prompt`$ ') // You can modify the two consts as you wish // or you can add command line args to make it flexible. #include #include #include const int PROMPT_MAX_LENTH = 25; const char * ADD_ON_STRING = "..|"; main () { char * current_path = NULL; char * p = NULL; if ((p = getcwd(NULL, 0)) == NULL) { cerr << "getcwd() error\n"; exit(-1); } int path_lenth = strlen(p); int add_on_lenth = strlen(ADD_ON_STRING); char * trimed_path = NULL; current_path = new char [path_lenth + 1]; strcpy(current_path, p); if (path_lenth <= PROMPT_MAX_LENTH) { cout << current_path; } else { trimed_path = new char [PROMPT_MAX_LENTH + 1]; strcpy(trimed_path, ADD_ON_STRING); char * pp = current_path; for (int i = 0; i < (path_lenth - PROMPT_MAX_LENTH + add_on_lenth); i++) { pp ++; } strcat(trimed_path, pp); cout << trimed_path; delete trimed_path; } delete current_path; return 0; } To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Aug 13 01:36:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA26822 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Thu, 13 Aug 1998 01:36:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (suebla.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.44.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA26811; Thu, 13 Aug 1998 01:36:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sue@phoenix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from sue@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA24328; Thu, 13 Aug 1998 18:34:29 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <19980813183425.65187@welearn.com.au> Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 18:34:25 +1000 From: Sue Blake To: Peihan Wang Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, jgrosch@mooseriver.com, mhenry@white.ug.cs.usyd.edu.au Subject: Re: Re: PS1 (command line prompt) in .profile References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88e In-Reply-To: ; from Peihan Wang on Thu, Aug 13, 1998 at 03:44:46PM +0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [moved to freebsd-questions where it should have started] On Thu, Aug 13, 1998 at 03:44:46PM +0800, Peihan Wang wrote: > >> > >> Hello , gurus ! > >> > >> I am using bash (version: 2.01) on my 2.2.6 box. > >> I put the following line in my .profile: > >> > >> PS1='`pwd`$ ' > >> > >> It works well in console mode, But after I start X > >> it does not take any effect in xterm. By the way, > >> I am using lesstif as my window manager. I do not > >> know what to do :-( > >> > --------------------------- Josef's Answer -------------------- > > > >Read your man page. Bash uses 2 init file, .bashrc and .bash_profile. > >.bash_profile gets run when you first login. .bashrc get run for each > >term that your account/process create. So in your .bash_profile you > >would have the line > > > > export PS1='`pwd`$ ' > > > >That should do it > > > -------------------------- Henry's Answer -------------------- > > > >You need to give the -ls argument to xterm: > > > >xterm -ls > > > >This indicates that the shell in the xterm is a login shell, > >and thus it will read your .profile. > > > ################################################################ > > Thank you very much ! > > I write the following trinket as a gift to all FreeBSD users. > It is very primitive and everyone can modify it for his/her > own purpose. > > > // file name : my-path-prompt.cc > // last update : Aug/13/1998 > // author : Peihan Wang , > > // This program is derived from pwd. > // Sometimes when you set PS1='`pwd`$ ' in your .profile or .bashrc, > // it is very annoying that while you were doing something > // in a relatively deep directory the PATH prompt is so long > // that cause your eyes dizzy. > > // So, compile this program and put it in ~/bin/ and modify your > // profile. (PS1='`my-path-prompt`$ ') > > // You can modify the two consts as you wish > // or you can add command line args to make it flexible. > > #include > #include > #include > > const int PROMPT_MAX_LENTH = 25; > const char * ADD_ON_STRING = "..|"; > > main () > { > char * current_path = NULL; > char * p = NULL; > > if ((p = getcwd(NULL, 0)) == NULL) { > cerr << "getcwd() error\n"; > exit(-1); > } > > int path_lenth = strlen(p); > int add_on_lenth = strlen(ADD_ON_STRING); > char * trimed_path = NULL; > > current_path = new char [path_lenth + 1]; > strcpy(current_path, p); > if (path_lenth <= PROMPT_MAX_LENTH) { > cout << current_path; > } > else { > trimed_path = new char [PROMPT_MAX_LENTH + 1]; > strcpy(trimed_path, ADD_ON_STRING); > char * pp = current_path; > for (int i = 0; > i < (path_lenth - PROMPT_MAX_LENTH + add_on_lenth); > i++) { > pp ++; > } > strcat(trimed_path, pp); > cout << trimed_path; > delete trimed_path; > } > delete current_path; > return 0; > } > I don't speak C, and I don't understand why I would want a program to do what .bashrc does. Is this better? -- Regards, -*Sue*- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Aug 13 03:59:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA08587 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Thu, 13 Aug 1998 03:59:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gw1.konstanz.netsurf.de (gw1.konstanz.netsurf.de [194.163.242.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA08582 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 1998 03:59:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Rainer.Duffner@konstanz.netsurf.de) Received: from duffner.konstanz.netsurf.de (surf85.konstanz.netsurf.de [194.163.242.85]) by gw1.konstanz.netsurf.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA07459; Thu, 13 Aug 1998 12:59:16 +0200 Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 12:58:55 +0200 (MESZ) From: Rainer M Duffner Subject: Re: CVSup/Make World help To: William Woods cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG, gekk0@pop.netaddress.com In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: enigma, http://www-stud.fh-konstanz.de/~enigma X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.46] Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu 13 Aug, William Woods wrote: > - > > > If you live in a country, where power-supply sometimes drops: leave out > > the -o asnyc bits...... > > > > I have herd about this, what exactly is async mount? It causes writes to the hard-disc to be 'clustered' and as the compile-process is _very_ I/O-dependend, makes it go faster. I don't think you'd see a big difference under normal circumstances - but while make world, your computer does nothing else and so it really pays. cheers, Rainer -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |Rainer Duffner, E-Mail: duffner@fh-konstanz.de | | & Rainer.Duffner@konstanz.netsurf.de | |Fachhochschule Konstanz, Germany | |"What's a Network ?" - Bill Gates, early 1980s | | WWW:http://www-stud.fh-konstanz.de/~duffner | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Aug 14 15:17:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA26650 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Fri, 14 Aug 1998 15:17:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from beavis.inetdirect.net (beavis.inetdirect.net [204.120.164.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA26606 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 1998 15:17:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from timsarver@netdirect.net) From: timsarver@netdirect.net Received: from tim (tech6.netdirect.net [204.120.164.16]) by beavis.inetdirect.net (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA10060 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 1998 17:17:17 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199808142217.RAA10060@beavis.inetdirect.net> X-Sender: timsarver@netdirect.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 17:18:18 -0500 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org subscribe freebsd-questions subscribe freebsd-announce END FreeBSD + Perl + Apache Remind me again why we need Microsoft. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Aug 14 19:30:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA05353 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Fri, 14 Aug 1998 19:30:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (suebla.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.44.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA05344 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 1998 19:30:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sue@phoenix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from sue@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA02599 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Sat, 15 Aug 1998 12:30:11 +1000 (EST) Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 12:30:11 +1000 (EST) From: Sue Blake Message-Id: <199808150230.MAA02599@phoenix.welearn.com.au> To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: FreeBSD Newbies First Aid Kit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org FreeBSD-Newbies First Aid Kit (Last updated 15 August 1998) (This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list. It is also available at http://www.welearn.com.au/freebsd/newbies/) FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG is the place to send all questions about installing, setting up, running and using FreeBSD. All help requests are handled by FreeBSD-Questions, including newbies questions. FreeBSD-Newbies is different. It is a discussion forum for newbies. We cover any of the activities of newbies that are not already dealt with elsewhere. Examples include helping each other to learn more on our own, finding and using resources, problem solving techniques, how to seek help elsewhere, how to use mailing lists and which lists to use, general chat, making mistakes, boasting, sharing ideas, stories, moral (but not technical) support, and taking an active part in the FreeBSD community. We take our problems and support questions to freebsd-questions, and use freebsd-newbies to meet others who are doing the same things that we do as newbies. One of the things we do together is learn more effective ways to find help when we need it. Here are some suggestions: When something doesn't work the way you expect 1. First look at the errata for your release of FreeBSD at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/releases/ for the latest information and security advisories. 2. Search the Handbook, FAQ, and mail archives at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/search.html 3. If you still have a question or problem, collect the output of `uname -a' and of any relevant program(s) and email your question to FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. Mailing lists When you have a problem that you can't solve by yourself, there's only one support mailing list and that's FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. FreeBSD-questions helps with installation and basic setup as well as more general and advanced questions. You don't have to actually join freebsd-questions before asking a question there. Replies to your question will normally be sent to you personally as well as to the list. Just make sure you have read and followed the guidelines for posting, because you might find them different to what you're used to. If you do subscribe to freebsd-questions you'll have the advantage of seeing all of the recent questions and their answers. Before you post to FreeBSD-questions, please read the guidelines at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Many of the people who answer FreeBSD-questions are very knowledgeable, but they get frustrated when they get questions which are difficult to understand. http://www.lemis.com/email.html is worth reading too. If you're not sure that you can follow these guidelines, come back and ask the other newbies for help on how to post an effective question to the support mailing list. Maybe your question has been asked before. If you search the mailing list archives at http://www.freebsd.org/search.html first you might get the answer right away. It's always worth trying. Other mailing lists (http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources:charters.html) cover specialised areas and many are more developer-oriented. You'll need to read their charters carefully before participating, but it's probably a good idea to ask on either -newbies or -questions for advice about where to post a more specialised question. FreeBSD-announce is a very low volume read-only list for occasional announcements, such as notice of new releases, and the Really Quick Newsletter. It's worth subscribing to FreeBSD-announce too. Manuals You'll always be expected show that you have made some effort to use the available documentation before asking for help. That's not always as easy as it sounds! If you know what documentation you need but can't locate it, send a brief query to FreeBSD-questions. If you don't know what you need, always have trouble finding it, or can't make any sense of it when you do, ask some patient newbies to steer you in the right direction. Anyone interested in writing or reviewing documentation for FreeBSD is encouraged to join the FreeBSD Documentation Project. Details are at http://www.freebsd.org/docproj.html Other resources A resource list is available at http://www.freebsd.org/newbies.html to help new and inexperienced FreeBSD users to find relevant information quickly. It includes books, on line documents and tutorials, and links to web pages that other newbies have found useful for learning. If you have a suggestion for good material to be included, please write to freebsd-newbies and tell us about it. But I have seen people asking questions here! It is quite common for people to send the wrong kind of post to a mailing list. Because we're newbies it'll certainly happen here from time to time. The best thing to do if you see a message that doesn't belong on a list is to ignore it. There's always someone around whose job it is to sort these problems out privately. The posts to the lists go straight through, whatever their content. It is going to be confusing for a little while because we're all newbies so we all make mistakes. That's OK. One thing we're going to see a fair bit is people posting questions, believing they're doing the right thing by posting here as newbies, not realising how it works. If someone answers those questions the situation will snowball. There's nothing wrong with helping someone to redirect their question to freebsd-questions, but please do so gently. There's nothing wrong with the occasional mistake either. So all questions, requests for help, etc still go to freebsd-questions as usual. Ours is more of a discussion group, a place where newbies can relax with other newbies and focus more on our successes than on our temporary imperfection. We can talk about things here that are not allowed on freebsd-questions. We're also a bit freer to make the mistakes that we need to make in order to learn. _________________________________________________________________ To Subscribe to FreeBSD-Newbies: Send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "subscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message. Mail sent to freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org appears on the mailing list. _________________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Aug 14 21:07:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA12257 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Fri, 14 Aug 1998 21:07:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hme0.mailrouter01.sprint.ca (hme0.mailrouter01.sprint.ca [207.107.250.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA12252 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 1998 21:06:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grgaud@sprint.ca) Received: from grgaud (spc-isp-ott-uas-06-14.sprint.ca [209.103.34.15]) by hme0.mailrouter01.sprint.ca (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA00812 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 1998 00:07:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199808150407.AAA00812@hme0.mailrouter01.sprint.ca> From: "GR Gaudreau" To: Subject: Re: Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 00:02:26 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > FreeBSD + Perl + Apache > Remind me again why we > need Microsoft. Because Billy-Bob Gates needs to make a few more bucks and control yet another segment of computing? ;-) -- G.R. Gaudreau grgaud@sprint.ca http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/5783/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Aug 15 11:25:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA21870 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Sat, 15 Aug 1998 11:25:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pm06sm.pmm.mci.net (pm06sm.pmm.mci.net [208.159.126.155]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA21853 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 1998 11:25:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from XDrAcOX@mci2000.COM) Received: from mci2000.COM (usr84-dialup2.mix2.Atlanta.mci.net) by PM06SM.PMM.MCI.NET (PMDF V5.1-10 #U2935) with ESMTP id <0EXQ00F15TU0IL@PM06SM.PMM.MCI.NET> for freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG; Sat, 15 Aug 1998 18:25:13 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 14:35:06 -0400 From: DrAcO Subject: Window Managers To: "freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG" Reply-to: XDrAcOX@mci2000.COM Message-id: <35D5D4DA.CDA24DC6@mci2000.COM> Organization: XDrAcOX@mci2000.com MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en]C-DIAL (Win95; U) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I was wondering what everyone thinks is the best window manager. FVWM95 or KDE??? I am having trouble deciding... Thanks, Jeff To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Aug 15 11:42:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA23577 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Sat, 15 Aug 1998 11:42:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hme0.mailrouter01.sprint.ca (hme0.mailrouter01.sprint.ca [207.107.250.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA23571 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 1998 11:42:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grgaud@sprint.ca) Received: from grgaud (spc-isp-ott-uas-13-19.sprint.ca [209.103.35.120]) by hme0.mailrouter01.sprint.ca (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA16128 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 1998 14:44:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199808151844.OAA16128@hme0.mailrouter01.sprint.ca> From: "GR Gaudreau" To: Subject: Re: Window Managers Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 14:43:21 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I was wondering what everyone thinks is the best window manager. FVWM95 > or KDE??? I am having trouble deciding... > Thanks, > Jeff Have you looked at AfterStep? It's my personal favorite... so far. ;-) -- G.R. Gaudreau grgaud@sprint.ca http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/5783/ If a man who is mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken, or cease to be honest. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Aug 15 12:07:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA26601 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Sat, 15 Aug 1998 12:07:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zephyr.cybercom.net (zephyr.cybercom.net [209.21.146.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA26583 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 1998 12:07:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ksmm@threespace.com) Received: from shell1.cybercom.net (ksmm@shell1.cybercom.net [209.21.136.6]) by zephyr.cybercom.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA08194 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 1998 15:07:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (ksmm@localhost) by shell1.cybercom.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA26670 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 1998 15:07:14 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: shell1.cybercom.net: ksmm owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 15:07:14 -0400 (EDT) From: The Classiest Man Alive X-Sender: ksmm@shell1.cybercom.net To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Window Managers In-Reply-To: <35D5D4DA.CDA24DC6@mci2000.COM> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've come to start liking fvwm/fvwm2. They're both attractive and lightweight, good on low reolution and low powered computers. K.S. On Sat, 15 Aug 1998, DrAcO wrote: : I was wondering what everyone thinks is the best window manager. FVWM95 : or KDE??? I am having trouble deciding... : Thanks, : Jeff : To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Aug 15 12:08:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA26811 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Sat, 15 Aug 1998 12:08:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from peanut.readington.com (peanut.readington.com [207.207.198.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA26782 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 1998 12:08:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chrismar@peanut.readington.com) Received: from localhost (chrismar@localhost) by peanut.readington.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA20415; Sat, 15 Aug 1998 14:11:44 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from chrismar@peanut.readington.com) Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 14:11:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Martino To: GR Gaudreau cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Window Managers In-Reply-To: <199808151844.OAA16128@hme0.mailrouter01.sprint.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Yea.. afterstep gets my vote too. Its not like KDE where your basically got windows on yer box. FVWM is a little too simple for me. So, if your looking for something that isn't as eloborate as KDE and something that isn't as simple as FVWM then I'd look into afterstep. AfterSteps homepage is at www.afterstep.org. Chris On Sat, 15 Aug 1998, GR Gaudreau wrote: > > I was wondering what everyone thinks is the best window manager. FVWM95 > > or KDE??? I am having trouble deciding... > > Thanks, > > Jeff > > > Have you looked at AfterStep? It's my personal favorite... so far. ;-) > > -- > G.R. Gaudreau > grgaud@sprint.ca > http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/5783/ > > If a man who is mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being > mistaken, or cease to be honest. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Aug 15 15:04:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA19862 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Sat, 15 Aug 1998 15:04:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hme0.mailrouter01.sprint.ca (hme0.mailrouter01.sprint.ca [207.107.250.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA19857 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 1998 15:04:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grgaud@sprint.ca) Received: from grgaud (spc-isp-ott-uas-01-4.sprint.ca [209.103.29.5]) by hme0.mailrouter01.sprint.ca (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA11046 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 1998 18:05:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199808152205.SAA11046@hme0.mailrouter01.sprint.ca> From: "GR Gaudreau" To: Subject: Re: Window Managers Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 18:04:42 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I've come to start liking fvwm/fvwm2. They're both attractive and > lightweight, good on low reolution and low powered computers. > > K.S. Speaking of which... has anyone here tried MetroLink X? And how does in compare with fvwm as to the footprint and speed? -- G.R. Gaudreau grgaud@sprint.ca http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/5783/ If a man who is mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken, or cease to be honest. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Aug 15 16:38:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA03255 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Sat, 15 Aug 1998 16:38:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hme0.mailrouter01.sprint.ca (hme0.mailrouter01.sprint.ca [207.107.250.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA03244 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 1998 16:38:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grgaud@sprint.ca) Received: from grgaud (spc-isp-ott-uas-01-4.sprint.ca [209.103.29.5]) by hme0.mailrouter01.sprint.ca (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA22725 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 1998 19:40:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199808152340.TAA22725@hme0.mailrouter01.sprint.ca> From: "GR Gaudreau" To: "FreeBSD Newbies List" Subject: Widget Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 19:39:09 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I know what a window is, but can someone please expalin what a "widget" is? I see this term where ever I go on FreeBSD and Linux websites, but I don't know what it is. Thank you. -- G.R. Gaudreau grgaud@sprint.ca http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/5783/ If a man who is mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken, or cease to be honest. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Aug 15 17:34:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA09545 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Sat, 15 Aug 1998 17:34:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mbox.ualr.edu (mbox.ualr.edu [144.167.10.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA09540 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 1998 17:34:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jeroyce@athena.ualr.edu) Received: from athena.ualr.edu by UALR.EDU (PMDF V4.2-11 #15587) id <01J0N700OXA8006J5N@UALR.EDU>; Sat, 15 Aug 1998 19:33:35 CDT Received: from athena.ualr.edu ([144.167.7.91]) by athena.ualr.edu with ESMTP; Sat, 15 Aug 1998 19:33:32 -0500 Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 19:31:59 -0500 From: Joe Subject: Re: Widget To: GR Gaudreau , FreeBSD Newbies List Message-id: <35D6287F.4D46D87C@athena.ualr.edu> X-Envelope-to: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.35 i686) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <199808152340.TAA22725@hme0.mailrouter01.sprint.ca> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org A widget is a scrollbar, button, pulldown menu, etc...... GR Gaudreau wrote: > I know what a window is, but can someone please expalin what a "widget" is? > I see this term where ever I go on FreeBSD and Linux websites, but I don't > know what it is. Thank you. > > -- > G.R. Gaudreau > grgaud@sprint.ca > http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/5783/ > > If a man who is mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being > mistaken, or cease to be honest. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message -- There are no secret messages in this signature file. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Aug 15 22:30:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA02982 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Sat, 15 Aug 1998 22:30:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail-gw.pacbell.net (mail-gw.pacbell.net [206.13.28.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA02975 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 1998 22:30:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gekk0@pop.netaddress.com) From: gekk0@pop.netaddress.com Received: from rjiredff (ppp-207-214-213-11.sntc01.pacbell.net [207.214.213.11]) by mail-gw.pacbell.net (8.8.8/8.7.1+antispam) with SMTP id WAA12481 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 1998 22:29:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980815223118.0079f330@pop.netaddress.com> X-Sender: gekk0@pop.netaddress.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 22:31:18 -0700 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Window Managers In-Reply-To: <35D5D4DA.CDA24DC6@mci2000.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I just started using WindowMaker, and am liking it very much. there is a port for the most recent WM version. check out http://www.windowmaker.org/ or for screenshots/themes http://wm.themes.org it looks similar to Afterstep. At 02:35 PM 8/15/98 -0400, you wrote: >I was wondering what everyone thinks is the best window manager. FVWM95 >or KDE??? I am having trouble deciding... > Thanks, > Jeff > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message