From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Nov 15 13:50:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA06072 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 13:50:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sar.anit.es (sar.anit.es [195.76.122.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA06062 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 13:50:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swalk@anit.es) Received: from cyrix (p1h140.anit.es [195.76.122.140]) by sar.anit.es (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA01464; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 22:49:32 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981115211029.00985920@sar.anit.es> X-Sender: swalk@sar.anit.es X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 21:10:29 +0100 To: "David Williams" , From: Steven Walker Subject: Re: FAT32 In-Reply-To: <000501be1007$ee6ba4c0$2c0edec2@dell> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I knew if I hung around long enough someone would finally ask something which I might attempt to do a partial reply! >Here's my problem. I have 1 physical IDE drive partitioned into 4 FAT32 logical drives, >C D E and F. If I have Win98 on C, FreeBSD on D and data on E and F, can i: > >a) install FreeBSD on D without losing or converting ANY data on the other drives? What do you want, blood? There are no guarantees. Before you try to do anything like that back up everything. You should not lose anything but funny things can happen. >b) Use FreeBSD with a FAT32 drive? I don't think so. I believe you can read other FAT32 drives but you cannot install it on a FAT32 disk. The freebsb-questions will give a more comprehensive reply. >c) Dual Boot Win98 and FreeBSD? If so, how? Yes. A dual boot is part of the set up options. Steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Nov 15 19:46:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA11607 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 19:46:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cuftas.com.au ([203.39.138.147]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA11602 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 19:46:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from georger@cuftas.com.au) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19981116144237.006a6304@po.cuftas.com.au> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 14:42:37 +1100 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG From: Ross George Subject: Re: FAT32 In-Reply-To: <000501be1007$ee6ba4c0$2c0edec2@dell> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 19:49 14/11/98 -0000, you wrote: >Here's my problem. I have 1 >physical IDE drive partitioned >into 4 FAT32 logical drives, C >D E and F. If I have Win98 on >C, FreeBSD on D and data on E >and F, can i: > >a) install FreeBSD on D >without losing or converting >ANY data on the other drives? > >b) Use FreeBSD with a FAT32 >drive? > >c) Dual Boot Win98 and >FreeBSD? If so, how? > >I would really appreciate some >clarification. > >-David Williams - >williams@wilroy.demon.co.uk > There is a problem to keep in mind when installing FreeBSD onto logical partitions: the root (/) partition must start before physical sectore number 1024. Therefore you are best off installing FreeBSD on your C: partion, or on D: if C: is small. FreeBSD has its own boot manager, but beware - if you re-install win95/98 after installing FreeBSD, the boot partition will be overwritten. Another handy hint - FAT16 drives may be mounted on a FreeBSD system. See the "mount -t msdos" command for more details. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Nov 16 01:52:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA14578 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 01:52:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from elrond.rosmail.com (elrond.rosmail.com [195.90.128.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA14572 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 01:52:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from 0824@08700000.mhs.rosmail.com) From: 0824@08700000.mhs.rosmail.com Received: (from uucp@localhost) by elrond.rosmail.com (8.9.1a/8.9-V) with UUCP id MAA10569 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 12:24:11 +0300 (MSK) To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Mon, 16 Nov 98 12:13:09 +0300 (MSK) Message-ID: <6D5B503680D49698@rosmail.com> Organization: JSC "ROSNET" Subject: Could you mail me a FreeBSD logo (big jpg)? Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Could you mail me a big FreeBSD logo (a preety red daemon)? Vlad. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Nov 16 12:18:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA03670 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 12:18:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk (irwell.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.48]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA03654; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 12:18:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from drmarsh@bigfoot.com) Received: from trek.squelch.localnet (man-169.dialup.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.40.215]) by irwell.zetnet.co.uk (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA25984; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 20:18:05 GMT Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <003801be1108$01485240$6cb611cb@saruman.scitec.com.au> X-No-Archive: yes Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 20:16:32 -0000 (GMT) Organization: David_Marsh@HOME: see signature for information. From: David Marsh To: John Saunders Subject: RE: leafnode has died on me, can anybody help? Cc: FreeBSD-Questions Cc: FreeBSD-Questions , FreeBSD-Newbies Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi John, [Also cc'ed to -newbies for information as the troubleshooting advice given might prove to be a useful little learning experience] On 16-Nov-98, John Saunders wrote: >> ..and the following error in my console window: >> >> Nov 15 23:55:29 trek /kernel: pid 413 (leafnode), uid 8: exited >> on signal 11 >> >> Trying to run the leafnode program itself (as root) results in >> Segmentation fault (core dumped) > > Sounds like either a disk space problem or possibly corrupted > files in the news spool. A-ha.. Thanks for the tip. I took a guess and examined the groupinfo file: it turns out it had been corrupted and truncated (presumably due to running out of disk space during a rewrite). I renamed it, and restarted leafnode, which then happily retrieved a new newsgroup list from my ISP. :-) It seems a little ungraceful for a program to die horribly in such a circumstance, rather than return an error message, though! Everything seems fine again now, thanks! Apologies for troubling -questions with something that (with a bit of forethought on my part) I ought to have been able to sort out for myself. I just got a little panicked at the thought of being without news: sad, huh? * Lesson for myself for today: if something breaks, check out the config files first, before panicking.. > Have you tried using ktrace on the > program. i.e. > ># ktrace leafnode > [enter commands that make it crash] ># kdump > > P.S. You need "option KTRACE" in your kernel config file. Thanks, I'll bear that tip in mind for future use. This wasn't a feature I was aware of. I guess I'd need a kernel recompile to enable that feature, so I may pass just for now.. Regards, Dave. --- David Marsh,drmarsh@bigfoot.com | http://www.doko.freeserve.co.uk/ | Glasgow/Glaschu, Scotland. *If urgent, phone: +44 141 400-0577*| >CYCLEWAY: cycle activism GB/IE: http://www.doko.freeserve.co.uk/cycleway/< >includes bikes on public transport, & cycle organisation directories< To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Nov 16 15:41:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA06174 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 15:41:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA06141; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 15:41:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA10065; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 23:39:24 GMT (envelope-from nik) Message-ID: <19981116233923.61010@nothing-going-on.org> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 23:39:23 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: doc@FreeBSD.ORG, newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: New version of Doc. Proj. primer for comment Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Folks, [x-post to -doc and -newbies] I've uploaded a new version of my primer for people who are thinking of contributing to the Documentation Project. It's at I'd be grateful if people could take a look at it. Large chunks of it are incomplete, waiting for me to work some more on it. However, barring major criticisms, I'll commit this to the CVS tree in the next couple of days so that other people can work on it as well. Folks in -newbies, I'm particularly interested in comments relating to the SGML primer (section 2) and DocBook (section 4.2) bits. Are these easy to understand (particularly if you've never seen HTML), does it make sense, are the examples useful? Many thanks for your comments, N -- C.R.F. Consulting -- we're run to make me richer. . . To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Nov 17 09:13:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA08460 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 09:13:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from crow.prod.itd.earthlink.net (crow.prod.itd.earthlink.net [209.178.63.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA08455 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 09:13:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from paulseeger@sprintmail.com) Received: from sprintmail.com (pool018-max10.ds6-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net [207.217.231.218]) by crow.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA07547 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 09:13:30 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3651AF5E.E307297D@sprintmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 09:16:15 -0800 From: Paul Seeger Reply-To: paulseeger@sprintmail.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: file permissions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have just installed bsd on my machine. its a dual boot setup on a 1.6 gig split in two. Dos on one partition and bsd on the other. that part seems to work ok. upon logging on the system says to type /stand/sysinstall. this does not work from either the $ or # prompt. i tried to change the permissions on sysinstall and the system says that my file system is read only. Help. I just want to get this thing working so that I can play with unix. Paul To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Nov 17 10:05:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA15889 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 10:05:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from premierproductions.com (pm4-205.hp.infi.net [208.142.82.205]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA15758; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 10:05:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from webmaster@premierproductions.com) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 10:05:32 -0800 (PST) From: webmaster@premierproductions.com Message-Id: <199811171805.KAA15758@hub.freebsd.org> To: webmaster@premierproductions.com Subject: Community Christmas Announcement Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org GREAT HOLIDAY MUSIC The Holidays are quickly approaching and what better way to begin the season than with a great Christmas show. Premier Productions is proud to announce that we will be bringing The Ray Boltz Christmas Show to the Charleston Municipal Auditorium on Saturday, November 28 at 7:00pm. Join us for a great evening of Christmas music that will put you in the Christmas spirit for the rest of the season. All seating is reserved but great seats still remain at the Civic Center Box Office, and Tickets Master Outlets. www.ticketmaster.com You can charge tickets by phone by calling: 304-342-5757 For more information visit our web site at www.PremierProductions.com Hope to see you there! Thanks Premier Productions This is a one time community announcement. This is a one time community announcement. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Nov 17 11:40:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA00433 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 11:40:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from chopin.seattleu.edu (chopin.seattleu.edu [206.81.198.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA00414; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 11:40:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hodeleri@seattleu.edu) Received: from seattleu.edu ([172.17.25.95]) by chopin.seattleu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA06423; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 11:39:54 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3651D0CE.C77DF5C4@seattleu.edu> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 11:38:54 -0800 From: Eric Hodel X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: paulseeger@sprintmail.com CC: "freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG" , "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: file permissions References: <3651AF5E.E307297D@sprintmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This questions will be best served in freebsd-questions. I am CCing it to that list. Paul Seeger wrote: > > I have just installed bsd on my machine. its a dual boot setup on a 1.6 > gig split in two. Dos on one partition and bsd on the other. that part > seems to work ok. upon logging on the system says to type > /stand/sysinstall. this does not work from either the $ or # prompt. i > tried to change the permissions on sysinstall and the system says that > my file system is read only. Help. I just want to get this thing > working so that I can play with unix. > > Paul > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Nov 17 20:01:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA12655 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 20:01:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from staff.cs.usyd.edu.au (staff.cs.usyd.edu.au [129.78.8.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA12650 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 20:01:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mhenry@white.ug.cs.usyd.edu.au) Message-Id: <199811180401.UAA12650@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Community Christmas Announcement To: webmaster@premierproductions.com Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 15:00:50 +1000 (EST) From: "Michael Henry" Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199811171805.KAA15758@hub.freebsd.org> from "webmaster@premierproductions.com" at Nov 17, 98 10:05:32 am Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org What the hell does this have to do with FreeBSD? Please allow me to quote the mailing list charter: "Advertising of non-FreeBSD related products or services is strictly prohibited and will result in an immediate ban if it is clear that the offender is advertising by spam." > GREAT HOLIDAY MUSIC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Nov 18 08:34:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA26953 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 08:34:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp2.globalserve.net (smtp2.globalserve.net [209.90.128.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA26948 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 08:34:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from scqdaf@globalserve.net) Received: from [10.1.0.5] (dialin598.toronto.globalserve.net [209.90.132.89]) by smtp2.globalserve.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA01974 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 11:36:02 -0500 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Sender: scqdaf#mail.globalserve.net@10.1.0.1 (Unverified) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 15:54:36 -0500 To: FreeBSD-Newbies From: Dennis Favro Subject: Suggestion: Proxy server? Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Anyone have a suggestion for free/low-cost commercial proxy servers that would work with FreeBSD 2.2.6? --Dennis To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Nov 18 09:35:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA05423 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 09:35:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.webspan.net (mail.webspan.net [206.154.70.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA05397 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 09:35:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from opsys@mail.webspan.net) Received: from orion.webspan.net (orion.webspan.net [206.154.70.5]) by mail.webspan.net (WEBSPAN/970608) with SMTP id MAA05004; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 12:35:15 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 12:35:09 -0500 (EST) From: Open Systems Networking X-Sender: opsys@orion.webspan.net To: Dennis Favro cc: FreeBSD-Newbies Subject: Re: Suggestion: Proxy server? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 17 Nov 1998, Dennis Favro wrote: > Anyone have a suggestion for free/low-cost commercial proxy servers that > would work with FreeBSD 2.2.6? For WWW and FTP I would recommend SQUID. It's in the ports tree. Fairly easy to configure and pretty nice. For other services you could try delegate also in the ports tree. Although I have never used it. I looked at it once but all the doc's were in japanese :-) So I kinda left it alone, but im sure its a solid proxy system. Chris -- "You both seem to be ignoring the fact that the networking market is driven by so-called 'IT professionals' these days, most of whom can't tell the difference between an ARP and a carp." --Wes Peters ===================================| Open Systems FreeBSD Consulting. FreeBSD 3.0 is available now! | Phone: (402)573-9124 / ICQ # 20016186 -----------------------------------| 3335 N. 103 Plaza, Omaha, NE 68134 FreeBSD: The power to serve! | E-Mail: opsys@open-systems.net http://www.freebsd.org | Consulting, Network Engineering, Security ===================================| http://open-systems.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Nov 18 13:26:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA09668 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 13:26:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from staff.cs.usyd.edu.au (staff.cs.usyd.edu.au [129.78.8.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA09663 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 13:26:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mhenry@grey.ug.cs.usyd.edu.au) Message-Id: <199811182126.NAA09663@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Community Christmas Announcement To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 08:26:12 +1000 (EST) From: "Michael Henry" In-Reply-To: <199811181608.IAA04686@pau-amma.whistle.com> from "David Wolfskill" at Nov 18, 98 08:08:01 am Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Since it didn't show up on the other mailing lists, I assumed it came from someone on this mailing list. (What kind of spammer only spams one mailing list?) Very naive of me. > >> GREAT HOLIDAY MUSIC > > It was just spam. Please direct complaints to the site that injected > the spam into the mailing list. (I did -- and to their providers. I > figure that if everyone on the lists did so, the providers would have an > Excellent Incentive to "encourage" the jerks to reform.) > > david > -- > David Wolfskill UNIX System Administrator > dhw@whistle.com voice: (650) 577-7158 pager: (650) 371-4621 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Nov 18 13:30:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA10494 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 13:30:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from daleth.grace.edu (daleth.grace.edu [199.8.50.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA10472 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 13:30:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from linvilmd@grace.edu) Received: from linvilmd.grace.edu ([199.8.49.87]) by daleth.grace.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id RAA09788 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 17:24:13 -0500 Message-Id: <199811182224.RAA09788@daleth.grace.edu> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Misty Linville" To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 16:32:45 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: 3.0 install not saving kernel configuration X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.54) Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I just installed freebsd 3.0 over ftp to an intel pentium 75mhz computer. Everything went fine in the install, and then I rebooted to find that the kernel configuration I had done first thing, with the install floppy, had not saved. :( It was trying to load all these drivers for things I don't have, and it placed my NIC card back at the default values (irq 11 and io 0x280) when I had put it at irq 9 and io 0x300. Please help! ~Misty To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Nov 18 14:40:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA21377 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:40:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.airmail.net (mail.airmail.net [206.66.12.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA21367 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:40:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from david@davidv.net) Received: from abuse5.iadfw.net from [206.66.13.138] by mail.airmail.net (/\##/\ Smail3.1.30.16 #30.260) with smtp for sender: id ; Wed, 18 Nov 98 16:40:03 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19981118164143.006d41b4@mail.davidv.net> X-Sender: david@mail.davidv.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 16:41:48 -0600 To: "Michael Henry" , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG From: David Vondrasek Subject: Re: Community Christmas Announcement Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 08:26 AM 11/19/98 +1000, Michael Henry wrote: >Since it didn't show up on the other mailing lists, I assumed it came from >someone on this mailing list. (What kind of spammer only spams one mailing >list?) > >Very naive of me. He will not be spamming any longer :) just in. ---------- X-Persona: Return-Path: ABUSE@InfoAve.Net Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 15:26:00 -0400 (EDT) From: abuse@InfoAve.Net Subject: Re: Fwd: Community Christmas Announcement To: David Vondrasek The spammer has been dealt with by the proper licensee. Thank you David L. Cobb Abuse@Infoave.Net On Wed, 18 Nov 1998, David Vondrasek wrote: > At 03:00 PM 11/17/98 , you wrote: > >Sent at high priority to MIS for response, but the spam appears to > >originate on infi.net. > > > >Tim McKee, Manager > >Network Engineering Services > >Info Avenue Internet Services, L.L.C. > > Yes it did. But www.PremierProductions.com is in a IP block that you own ? > Their UPSTREAM refused to do anything about them. > > Canonical name: www.PremierProductions.com > Addresses: > 207.144.125.155 > > Trying 207.144.125 at ARIN > Info Avenue Internet Services (NETBLK-SUNB-BLK-5) SUNB-BLK-5 > 207.144.0.0 - 207.144.191.255 > WebPage Direct (NETBLK-I-207-144-125-1) I-207-144-125-1 > 207.144.125.0 - 207.144.125.255 > > Webpage direct is nothing but a SPAM house. > > > >> >> GREAT HOLIDAY MUSIC >> >> It was just spam. Please direct complaints to the site that injected >> the spam into the mailing list. (I did -- and to their providers. I >> figure that if everyone on the lists did so, the providers would have an >> Excellent Incentive to "encourage" the jerks to reform.) >> >> david >> -- >> David Wolfskill UNIX System Administrator >> dhw@whistle.com voice: (650) 577-7158 pager: (650) 371-4621 > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Nov 18 14:51:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA23200 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:51:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dns.phelpsd.com (dns.phelpsd.com [198.176.208.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA23193 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:51:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from map@primenet.com) Received: by dns.phelpsd.com; id PAA01468; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 15:51:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from inetdev.secs.phelpsd.com(198.22.162.153) by dns.phelpsd.com via smap (4.1) id xma001355; Wed, 18 Nov 98 15:50:37 -0700 Received: from primenet.com ([198.22.162.156]) by inetdev.secs.phelpsd.com with ESMTP (8.7.1/8.7.1) id PAA16063 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 15:50:36 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <36534F2A.B7C4D42@primenet.com> Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 15:50:19 -0700 From: "Mark A. Pitman" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Another "cant mount root" problem (SCSI) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am able to install FreeBSD 2.2.7 successfully, however when I reboot, I get the "panic: cant mount root" error. I am using a single SCSI HD on an NCR53c810 PCI controller. I have noticed that when the systems boots, the kernel does not probe or detect any of the PCI devices. The boot floppy probes the PCI devices fine (I guess that's pretty obvious, since it installed). Anybody know what I can do to fix this? I'm new to FreeBSD (I've been using Linux, HP-UX, AIX for 3 years or so though, so I'm not a complete *NIX newbie), so I am anxious to get it up and running and learn all about the wonders of FreeBSD. Thanks Mark Pitman To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Nov 18 21:02:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA09200 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 21:02:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from chopin.seattleu.edu (chopin.seattleu.edu [206.81.198.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA09193 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 21:02:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hodeleri@seattleu.edu) Received: from seattleu.edu ([172.17.25.95]) by chopin.seattleu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA05567; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 21:01:35 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3653A5F5.C65D4F0F@seattleu.edu> Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 21:00:37 -0800 From: Eric Hodel X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Misty Linville CC: "freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: 3.0 install not saving kernel configuration References: <199811182224.RAA09788@daleth.grace.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I don't believe that it saves the kernel when it reboots after install, but if you change them back after install they should be saved. You may want to build a custom kernel to get rid of the extra unneeded devices, and you can set up all of your proper interrupts and io in the kernel. Eric Hodel hodeleri@seattleu.edu Misty Linville wrote: > > Hi, > > I just installed freebsd 3.0 over ftp to an intel pentium 75mhz > computer. Everything went fine in the install, and then I rebooted > to find that the kernel configuration I had done first thing, with > the install floppy, had not saved. :( It was trying to load all > these drivers for things I don't have, and it placed my NIC card back > at the default values (irq 11 and io 0x280) when I had put it at irq > 9 and io 0x300. Please help! > > ~Misty > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Nov 19 23:26:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA27338 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 23:26:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com (ha1.rdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.0.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA27331 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 23:26:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from paulturner@home.com) Received: from pdc ([24.1.70.153]) by mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail v4.0 201-221-107) with SMTP id <19981120072618.HEKS240.mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com@pdc> for ; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 23:26:18 -0800 Message-ID: <006801be1457$5732f460$0a00000a@pdc.frmt1.sfba.home.com> From: "Paul" To: Subject: Find and an editor Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 23:28:00 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0063_01BE1414.3F13DB80" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0063_01BE1414.3F13DB80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Found this address in the newsgroups. I have 2.2.7 and X working fine. = If only i could get find to search through multiple directories and find = an X editor to edit the important files, I am sure I could go a lot = farther. When I try to use "find sysinstall" for example, it searches only the = current directory. I have since found /stand/sysinstall, but there are = many other files I need to "find". I also would like a stable X based file editor. Please do not point me = to "vi". I admit I am coming from Microsoft. We are a community service non-profit organization, and I am less than = enthusiastic about supporting the commercial monopoly. If you have a moment, I would also like some hints on how to handle the = fact that the rest of the "world" expects us to be able to deal with the = "Word" and "Excel" files that get sent to us, if we go completely = FreeBSD. Sincerely looking for a way out Paul Turner IT Director CityTeam Ministries ------=_NextPart_000_0063_01BE1414.3F13DB80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Found this address in the = newsgroups.  I=20 have 2.2.7 and X working fine. If only i could get find to search = through=20 multiple directories and find an X editor to edit the important files, I = am sure=20 I could go a lot farther.
 
When I try to use "find sysinstall" for = example, it=20 searches only the current directory. I have since found = /stand/sysinstall, but=20 there are many other files I need to "find".
 
I also would like a stable X based file editor. = Please do not=20 point me to "vi". I admit I am coming from = Microsoft.
 
We are a community service non-profit organization, = and I am=20 less than enthusiastic about supporting the commercial = monopoly.
 
If you have a moment, I would also like some hints = on how to=20 handle the fact that the rest of the "world" expects us to be = able to=20 deal with the "Word" and "Excel" files that get sent = to us,=20 if we go completely FreeBSD.
 
Sincerely looking for a way out
 
Paul Turner
IT Director
CityTeam Ministries
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0063_01BE1414.3F13DB80-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Nov 20 01:59:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA12220 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 01:59:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Bespin.worldnet.net (bespin.worldnet.net [195.3.3.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA12206 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 01:59:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pcasidy@worldnet.fr) Received: from greatoak (p14-003.province.worldnet.fr [195.3.14.3]) by Bespin.worldnet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA12815 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 10:58:16 +0100 (CET) Received: (from pcasidy@localhost) by greatoak (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA00307 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 09:59:31 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from pcasidy) Message-Id: <199811200859.JAA00307@greatoak> Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 09:59:30 +0100 (CET) From: Philippe CASIDY Subject: Netscape plug-ins To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi! What would you use to play sound, modules from Netscape? I have tried mikmod but it cannot be interrupted to play another sound. (well I could run it through a script that would kill it before playing the new sound!) Generally speaking, I would like to know which plugins are available for Netscape? Thanks Phil. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Nov 20 02:41:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA15359 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 02:41:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from staff.cs.usyd.edu.au (staff.cs.usyd.edu.au [129.78.8.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA15353 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 02:41:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mhenry@white.ug.cs.usyd.edu.au) Message-Id: <199811201041.CAA15353@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Find and an editor To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 21:40:48 +1000 (EST) From: "Michael Henry" In-Reply-To: <006801be1457$5732f460$0a00000a@pdc.frmt1.sfba.home.com> from "Paul" at Nov 19, 98 11:28:00 pm Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Found this address in the newsgroups. I have 2.2.7 and X working fine. = > If only i could get find to search through multiple directories and find = > an X editor to edit the important files, I am sure I could go a lot = > farther. Try "man -k edit". You'll get some irrelevant programs, but it should give you what you want. You don't have to search through the whole directory structure. Editors are most likely to be in /usr/bin, /usr/X11R6/bin (X editors), or /usr/local/bin. > When I try to use "find sysinstall" for example, it searches only the = > current directory. I have since found /stand/sysinstall, but there are = > many other files I need to "find". I'm not a power user of "find", but I often do searches like this: find . -name -print The "." means "the current directory" (and all subdirectories). You can use any directory here (You might want to use "/" or "/usr"). "filename" can be a complete filename (like sysinstall) or a regular expression ('*install'). (Just be sure you put it in single quotes so the shell won't mess it up). > I also would like a stable X based file editor. Please do not point me = > to "vi". I admit I am coming from Microsoft. Try Nedit. It's in the packages. > If you have a moment, I would also like some hints on how to handle the = > fact that the rest of the "world" expects us to be able to deal with the = > "Word" and "Excel" files that get sent to us, if we go completely = > FreeBSD. Unfortunately, you'll have to keep windows around if you want to work with these. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Nov 20 04:46:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA27427 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 04:46:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp.interlog.com (smtp.interlog.com [207.34.202.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA27413 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 04:46:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ripjeans@shell1.interlog.com) Received: from shell1.interlog.com (ripjeans@shell1.interlog.com [207.34.202.8]) by smtp.interlog.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA08724 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 07:45:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from ripjeans@localhost) by shell1.interlog.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA04903; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 07:45:41 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 07:45:41 -0500 (EST) From: To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: subscribe Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Nov 20 07:20:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA13248 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 07:20:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from chopin.seattleu.edu (chopin.seattleu.edu [206.81.198.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA13243 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 07:20:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hodeleri@seattleu.edu) Received: from seattleu.edu ([172.17.25.95]) by chopin.seattleu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA07308; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 07:19:40 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3655882F.DE568F92@seattleu.edu> Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 07:18:07 -0800 From: Eric Hodel X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul CC: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Find and an editor References: <006801be1457$5732f460$0a00000a@pdc.frmt1.sfba.home.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org You may want to check out StarOffice. It is an Necrosuk "word-like" product that is able to handle some hexcel and other files. You can check out any of the editors in the ports tree or packages, just go to www.freebsd.org/ports/. Eric Hodel hodeleri@seattleu.edu > Paul wrote: > > Found this address in the newsgroups. I have 2.2.7 and X working fine. If > only i could get find to search through multiple directories and find an X > editor to edit the important files, I am sure I could go a lot farther. > > When I try to use "find sysinstall" for example, it searches only the current > directory. I have since found /stand/sysinstall, but there are many other > files I need to "find". > > I also would like a stable X based file editor. Please do not point me to > "vi". I admit I am coming from Microsoft. > > We are a community service non-profit organization, and I am less than > enthusiastic about supporting the commercial monopoly. > > If you have a moment, I would also like some hints on how to handle the fact > that the rest of the "world" expects us to be able to deal with the "Word" and > "Excel" files that get sent to us, if we go completely FreeBSD. > > Sincerely looking for a way out > > Paul Turner > IT Director > CityTeam Ministries > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Nov 20 07:43:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA15563 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 07:43:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sumatra.americantv.com (sumatra.americantv.com [207.170.17.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA15551 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 07:43:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jlemon@americantv.com) Received: from right.PCS (right.PCS [148.105.10.31]) by sumatra.americantv.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA24017; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 09:42:00 -0600 (CST) Received: (from jlemon@localhost) by right.PCS (8.6.13/8.6.4) id JAA19067; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 09:41:29 -0600 Message-ID: <19981120094128.22503@right.PCS> Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 09:41:28 -0600 From: Jonathan Lemon To: Paul Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Find and an editor References: <006801be1457$5732f460$0a00000a@pdc.frmt1.sfba.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.61.1 In-Reply-To: <006801be1457$5732f460$0a00000a@pdc.frmt1.sfba.home.com>; from Paul on Nov 11, 1998 at 11:28:00PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Nov 11, 1998 at 11:28:00PM -0800, Paul wrote: > When I try to use "find sysinstall" for example, it searches only the current directory. I have since found /stand/sysinstall, but there are many other files I need to "find". find . -name sysinstall (find, starting in your current directory, a file matching the name `sysinstall') > I also would like a stable X based file editor. Please do not point me to "vi". I admit I am coming from Microsoft. Try looking at the ported applications in /usr/ports, or at http://www.freebsd.org/ports. There are several X based file editors there, > If you have a moment, I would also like some hints on how to handle the fact that the rest of the "world" expects us to be able to deal with the "Word" and "Excel" files that get sent to us, if we go completely FreeBSD. We don't really have a good solution to this, Microsoft has made it so that if you want to use word/excel, you must use the Microsoft products. A possibility is another (commercial) office package that runs on FreeBSD and is able to read word/excel documents. Applixware should hopefully fit the bill, but won't be available until February. (for more information see http://www.cdrom.com) -- Jonathan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Nov 20 07:48:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA16167 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 07:48:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp1.globalserve.net (smtp1.globalserve.net [209.90.128.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA16161 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 07:48:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from scqdaf@globalserve.net) Received: from [10.1.0.5] (dialin1482.toronto.globalserve.net [209.90.135.211]) by smtp1.globalserve.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA11971 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 10:51:46 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from scqdaf@globalserve.net) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Sender: scqdaf#mail.globalserve.net@10.1.0.1 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 10:47:49 -0500 To: FreeBSD-Newbies From: Dennis Favro Subject: Getting sound card to work in FreeBSD Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Can anyone point me to a good set of resources for getting sound cards to work under FreeBSD? I'd ask it in -questions, but I'd like to try and figure this out for myself first. --Dennis To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Nov 20 09:27:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA25516 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 09:27:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from chopin.seattleu.edu (chopin.seattleu.edu [206.81.198.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA25507 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 09:26:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hodeleri@seattleu.edu) Received: from seattleu.edu ([172.17.25.95]) by chopin.seattleu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA19017; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 09:23:11 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3655A51F.8B5F93BC@seattleu.edu> Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 09:21:35 -0800 From: Eric Hodel X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dennis Favro CC: "freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Getting sound card to work in FreeBSD References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org You may wish to try searching the mailing list archives, www.freebsd.org/search/ the first searches the web site, the second searches the archives. Happy hunting. Eric Hodel hodeleri@seattleu.edu Dennis Favro wrote: > > Can anyone point me to a good set of resources for getting sound cards to > work under FreeBSD? I'd ask it in -questions, but I'd like to try and > figure this out for myself first. > > --Dennis > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Nov 20 13:11:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA18464 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:11:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (imo20.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA18443 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:11:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Domino9033@aol.com) From: Domino9033@aol.com Received: from Domino9033@aol.com by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id HPRDa27479 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 16:10:02 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 16:10:02 EST To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: ??????????????????/ Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 226 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org i serouserl do not understand your directions on getting free bsd and dont know where to dl it and still dont know where to get the support for it Please e-mail me at domino9033@aol.com and by the way my name is dominik THankz To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Nov 20 13:27:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA20813 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:27:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from b.mx.crl.com (bmx.crl.com [165.113.1.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA20804 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:27:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from anarchy@crl.com) Received: from crl.crl.com (crl.com [165.113.1.12]) by b.mx.crl.com (8.8.7/) via SMTP id NAA00198; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:26:33 -0800 (PST) env-from (anarchy@crl.com) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:26:32 -0800 (PST) From: Ben Manes To: Domino9033@aol.com cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ??????????????????/ In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > i serouserl do not understand your directions on getting free bsd and dont > know where to dl it and still dont know where to get the support for it Its quite easy. To download it, merely go to ftp.cdrom.com, and look under freebsd. I haven't been there for a while, so its probably under /pub/freebsd. Grab the latest stable release. I believe that's v3.0, but I heard v2.2.8 is coming out, so I'm confused right there. v3.0 might be a stable release for developers and the like, not yet ready for prime-time. Remember, though, downloading isn't great off of a 28.8, tiring even over isdn. The best option, IMHO, is to buy the cd. Now, there's a few ways to do this. You can buy the walnut creek's set, which has the cds and the Complete FreeBSD (supposedly a great book), or you can grab just the cds cheaply at cheapbits.com. There, its just a few dollars. I recomend having a book.. I'm trying without one, and its a pain. I'm waiting for a new version of the Complete FreeBSD, since fbsd v3.0 is supposed to be a major change. There was a online-freebsd book being written, but I lost the url a while back. Its probably out of developement by now, and you can read it on their page for free, I expect. Otherwise, the only other free source for books is mcp.com. However, they give you access to old releases, and have just Linux or straight UNIX books, no fbsds. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Nov 20 14:12:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA26433 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 14:12:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hwembaz0001.honeywell.com (hwembaz0001.cas.honeywell.com [129.239.10.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA26427 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 14:12:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Emmanuel.Gravel@CAS.honeywell.com) Received: by hwembaz0001.Honeywell.COM with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 15:12:10 -0700 Message-ID: <417E587B9C99D111A1010000F803B7CE4DD98C@az77-revere.bcasd.az.honeywell.com> From: "Gravel, Emmanuel (AZ77)" To: "'freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org'" Subject: Problems creating new users Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 15:12:26 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've tried creating new users with the adduser program. At first I had created a directory called /usr/home and then made a symlink /home in the root dir. I then created new users pointing to /home as the home dir. All dirs were created and files were placed in. I had also created a new group in /etc/group called home. When I tried loging in as any of the users, I got a message saying that the user didn't have a home dir and was defaulting to the root dir. It also gave me this error message (I had afterwards removed the symlink and pointed everyone's home dir to /usr/home): login: _secure_path: cannot stat /usr/home//.login.conf: permission denied. Anyone know what this error means? I changed all the perms all the way to the user's home dirs to belong to group home, and gave rwx privs to the group for the dirs. I thougt this would give them permission to their home dir but the error message remained. This caught me completely off guard... I really don't understand what the problem is. Any clues? Manu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Nov 20 17:30:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA19236 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 17:30:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (suebla.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.44.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA19222 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 17:30:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sue@phoenix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from sue@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.0) id MAA18472 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 12:30:11 +1100 (EST) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 12:30:11 +1100 (EST) From: Sue Blake Message-Id: <199811210130.MAA18472@phoenix.welearn.com.au> To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: FreeBSD Newbies First Aid Kit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org FreeBSD-Newbies First Aid Kit (Last updated 30 August 1998) (This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list. It is also available at http://www.welearn.com.au/freebsd/newbies/) FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG is the place to send all questions about installing, configuring, running and using FreeBSD. All help requests are handled by FreeBSD-Questions, including newbies questions. FreeBSD-Newbies is different. We don't ask for help or answer how-to questions. It is a discussion forum for newbies. FreeBSD-Newbies provides a place for new FreeBSD users to meet and covers any of the activities of newbies that are not already dealt with elsewhere. Examples include helping each other to learn more on our own, finding and using resources, problem solving techniques, how to seek help elsewhere, how to use mailing lists and which lists to use, general chat, making mistakes, boasting, sharing ideas, stories, moral (but not technical) support, and taking an active part in the FreeBSD community. We take our problems and support questions to freebsd-questions, and use freebsd-newbies to meet others who are doing the same things that we do as newbies. One of the things we do together is learn more effective ways to find help when we need it. Here are some suggestions: When something doesn't work the way you expect 1. First look at the errata for your release of FreeBSD at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/releases/ for the latest information and security advisories. 2. Search the Handbook, FAQ, and mail archives at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/search.html 3. If you still have a question or problem, collect the output of `uname -a' and of any relevant program(s) and email your question to FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. Mailing lists When you have a problem that you can't solve by yourself, there's only one support mailing list and that's FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. FreeBSD-questions helps with installation and basic setup as well as more general and advanced questions. You don't have to actually join freebsd-questions before asking a question there. Replies to your question will normally be sent to you personally as well as to the list. Just make sure you have read and followed the guidelines for posting, because you might find them different to what you're used to. If you do subscribe to freebsd-questions you'll have the advantage of seeing all of the recent questions and their answers. Before you post to FreeBSD-questions, please read the guidelines at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Many of the people who answer FreeBSD-questions are very knowledgeable, but they get frustrated when they get questions which are difficult to understand. http://www.lemis.com/email.html is worth reading too. If you're not sure that you can follow these guidelines, come back and ask the other newbies for help on how to post an effective question to the support mailing list. Maybe your question has been asked before. If you search the mailing list archives at http://www.freebsd.org/search.html first you might get the answer right away. It's always worth trying. Other mailing lists (http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources:charters.html) cover specialised areas and many are more developer-oriented. You'll need to read their charters carefully before participating, but it's probably a good idea to ask on either -newbies or -questions for advice about where to post a more specialised question. FreeBSD-announce is a very low volume read-only list for occasional announcements, such as notice of new releases, and the Really Quick Newsletter. It's worth subscribing to FreeBSD-announce too. Manuals You'll always be expected show that you have made some effort to use the available documentation before asking for help. That's not always as easy as it sounds! If you know what documentation you need but can't locate it, send a brief query to FreeBSD-questions. If you don't know what you need, always have trouble finding it, or can't make any sense of it when you do, ask some patient newbies to steer you in the right direction. Anyone interested in writing or reviewing documentation for FreeBSD is encouraged to join the FreeBSD Documentation Project. Details are at http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/docproj.html Other resources A resource list is available at http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html to help new and inexperienced FreeBSD users to find relevant information quickly. It includes books, on line documents and tutorials, and links to web pages that other newbies have found useful for learning. If you have a suggestion for good material to be included, please write to freebsd-newbies and tell us about it. But I have seen people asking questions here! It is quite common for people to send the wrong kind of post to a mailing list. Because we're newbies it'll certainly happen here from time to time. The best thing to do if you see a message that doesn't belong on a list is to ignore it. There's always someone around whose job it is to sort these problems out privately. The posts to the lists go straight through, whatever their content. It is going to be confusing for a little while because we're all newbies so we all make mistakes. That's OK. One thing we're going to see a fair bit is people posting questions, believing they're doing the right thing by posting here as newbies, not realising how it works. If someone answers those questions the situation will snowball. There's nothing wrong with helping someone to redirect their question to freebsd-questions, but please do so gently. There's nothing wrong with the occasional mistake either. So all questions, requests for help, etc still go to freebsd-questions as usual. Ours is more of a discussion group, a place where newbies can relax with other newbies and focus more on our successes than on our temporary imperfection. We can talk about things here that are not allowed on freebsd-questions. We're also a bit freer to make the mistakes that we need to make in order to learn. _________________________________________________________________ To Subscribe to FreeBSD-Newbies: Send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "subscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message. Mail sent to freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org appears on the mailing list. _________________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Nov 20 20:08:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA05464 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 20:08:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from staff.cs.usyd.edu.au (staff.cs.usyd.edu.au [129.78.8.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA05452 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 20:08:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mhenry@white.ug.cs.usyd.edu.au) Message-Id: <199811210408.UAA05452@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: ??????????????????/ To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 15:08:02 +1000 (EST) From: "Michael Henry" In-Reply-To: from "Ben Manes" at Nov 20, 98 01:26:32 pm Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > ...latest stable release. I believe that's v3.0, but > I heard v2.2.8 is coming out, so I'm confused right there. I seem to recall from another mailing list that -stable would stay in the 2.2 branch until first quarter next year. (End of the first quarter? I don't know. Maybe someone else on the list knows better). > The best option, IMHO, is to buy the cd. Now, there's a few ways to do > this. You can buy the walnut creek's set, which has the cds and the > Complete FreeBSD (supposedly a great book), ...and supports the FreeBSD project. > or you can grab just the cds > cheaply at cheapbits.com. There, its just a few dollars. I recomend > having a book.. I'm trying without one, and its a pain. The book is on the CD in plain text format (ie. unreadable :) ). Look in the "book" directory on the first disk (for 2.2.6. It might be another disk for other versions). > I'm waiting for a > new version of the Complete FreeBSD, since fbsd v3.0 is supposed to be a > major change. There was a online-freebsd book being written, but I lost > the url a while back. "A Comprehensive Guide to FreeBSD" http://www.vmunix.com/fbsd-book/ > Its probably out of developement by now, and you > can read it on their page for free, I expect. Otherwise, the only other > free source for books is mcp.com. However, they give you access to old > releases, and have just Linux or straight UNIX books, no fbsds. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Nov 20 20:21:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA06551 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 20:21:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from staff.cs.usyd.edu.au (staff.cs.usyd.edu.au [129.78.8.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA06546 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 20:21:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mhenry@white.ug.cs.usyd.edu.au) Message-Id: <199811210421.UAA06546@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Problems creating new users To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 15:21:04 +1000 (EST) From: "Michael Henry" In-Reply-To: <417E587B9C99D111A1010000F803B7CE4DD98C@az77-revere.bcasd.az.honeywell.com> from "Gravel, Emmanuel" at Nov 20, 98 03:12:26 pm Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hmm. This problem should probably be posted to -questions. I'll see if I can help though. > I've tried creating new users with the adduser program. > At first I had created a directory called /usr/home and > then made a symlink /home in the root dir. I then created > new users pointing to /home as the home dir. All dirs were > created and files were placed in. I had also created a new > group in /etc/group called home. "adduser" should have made all the necessary groups when you added the users. > When I tried loging in > as any of the users, I got a message saying that the user > didn't have a home dir and was defaulting to the root dir. Is there a home directory listed for the users in /etc/passwd? > It also gave me this error message (I had afterwards removed > the symlink and pointed everyone's home dir to /usr/home): > > login: _secure_path: cannot stat /usr/home//.login.conf: > permission denied. Sounds like a permissions problem. Check the offending file and make sure it is owned by . (Also check the home directory and the /usr/home directory). > Anyone know what this error means? I changed all the perms > all the way to the user's home dirs to belong to group home, The directory /usr/home should belong to root:wheel, and the user's home directories should belong to : > and gave rwx privs to the group for the dirs. I thougt this would > give them permission to their home dir but the error message > remained. This caught me completely off guard... I really don't > understand what the problem is. I am myself a newbie, so my suggestions may not help. If this doesn't work you should go to -questions. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Nov 21 08:54:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA26745 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 08:54:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gw1.konstanz.netsurf.de (gw1.konstanz.netsurf.de [194.163.242.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA26740 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 08:54:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Rainer.Duffner@konstanz.netsurf.de) Received: from duffner.konstanz.netsurf.de (surf91.konstanz.netsurf.de [194.163.242.91]) by gw1.konstanz.netsurf.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA31194; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 17:54:08 +0100 Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 17:43:03 +0100 (MEZ) From: Rainer M Duffner Subject: Re: Find and an editor To: Paul cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <006801be1457$5732f460$0a00000a@pdc.frmt1.sfba.home.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: enigma, http://www-stud.fh-konstanz.de/~enigma X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.46] Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri 20 Nov, Paul wrote: > Found this address in the newsgroups. I have 2.2.7 and X working fine. If > only i could get find to search through multiple directories and find an X > editor to edit the important files, I am sure I could go a lot farther. > > When I try to use "find sysinstall" for example, it searches only the current > directory. > I have since found /stand/sysinstall, but there are many other files I > need to "find". man find will produce lots of text, which you'll only need at some point in the future. Basically, it goes like this: find / -name file_name -print will search the complete tree. This will take some time, depending on the amount of source you have laing around, it will take some minutes even with a fast SCSI-disk. find . -name file_name -print will search from the current directory downward. find /usr/local -name file_name -print will search /usr/local only. You can play with the size/age things later. > I also would like a stable X based file editor. Please do not > point me to "vi". I admi t I am coming from Microsoft. nedit. Not too complicated, yet reasonably powerful. It's in the ports, but you'd need Motif to manually compile it (which I guess you don't have). So, install it from a package (should be on the first CD, IIRC). > We are a community service non-profit organization, and I am less than > enthusiastic about supporting the commercial monopoly. Just buy buying the CD and not-buying something from Redmont, you've effectively lowered their profit. Go and install a larger mail-server and you cost 'em several 1000s in Exchange-Licences. I have seen estimates that a 500-User Exchange-System would cost close to 200000 USD. > If you have a moment, I would also like some hints on how to handle the fact > that the rest of the "world" expects us to be able to deal with the > "Word" and "Excel" files th at get sent to us, if we go completely StarOffice (IIIRC) 5.0 is free for personal use now (even the Windoze, Mac, OS2 and Solaris versions). I just hope, you don't have to suck the 70 Meg Download down a 28k phone-line... cheers, Rainer -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |Rainer Duffner, E-Mail: duffner@fh-konstanz.de | | & Rainer.Duffner@konstanz.netsurf.de | |Fachhochschule Konstanz, Germany | |"What's a Network ?" - Bill Gates, early 1980s | | WWW:http://www-stud.fh-konstanz.de/~duffner | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Nov 21 08:54:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA26762 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 08:54:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gw1.konstanz.netsurf.de (gw1.konstanz.netsurf.de [194.163.242.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA26757 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 08:54:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Rainer.Duffner@konstanz.netsurf.de) Received: from duffner.konstanz.netsurf.de (surf91.konstanz.netsurf.de [194.163.242.91]) by gw1.konstanz.netsurf.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA31202; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 17:54:12 +0100 Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 17:25:04 +0100 (MEZ) From: Rainer M Duffner Subject: Re: Netscape plug-ins To: Philippe CASIDY cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199811200859.JAA00307@greatoak> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: enigma, http://www-stud.fh-konstanz.de/~enigma X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.46] Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri 20 Nov, Philippe CASIDY wrote: > Generally speaking, I would like to know which plugins are available > for Netscape? Not many ;-) Generally, the only ones I can think of are those written by Oracle for their VideoServer. But they work on NetBSD32, too, IIRC. There is a PlugIn-SDK, for Unix. cheers, Rainer -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |Rainer Duffner, E-Mail: duffner@fh-konstanz.de | | & Rainer.Duffner@konstanz.netsurf.de | |Fachhochschule Konstanz, Germany | |"What's a Network ?" - Bill Gates, early 1980s | | WWW:http://www-stud.fh-konstanz.de/~duffner | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Nov 21 12:39:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA18755 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 12:39:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from laker.net (jet.laker.net [205.245.74.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA18735; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 12:39:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sfriedri@laker.net) Received: from nt (digital-pbi-112.laker.net [208.0.233.12]) by laker.net (8.9.0/8.9.LAKERNET.NO-SPAM.SPAMMERS.AND.RELAYS.WILL.BE.TRACKED.AND.PROSECUTED.) with SMTP id PAA09401; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 15:38:49 -0500 Message-Id: <199811212038.PAA09401@laker.net> From: "Steve Friedrich" To: "Alex Davidson" , "FreeBSD Newbies" , "FreeBSD Questions" Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 15:33:19 -0500 Reply-To: "Steve Friedrich" X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Professional (2.01.1600) For Windows NT (4.0.1381;3) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: RE: How to test my ISP connection Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 1 Nov 1998 11:20:26 -0700, Alex Davidson wrote: >I now have a ppp.linkup with the following section: > >isp: > delete ALL > add 0 0 HISADDR > !bg /etc/ppp/ppp/etherup.isp > >Still nothing. Once it appears to connect, try: ping 204.146.18.33 That's www.ibm.com If the ping works, your connection is up. Then try: ping www.ibm.com This will probably fail because you probably don't have your ISPs nameserver listed in /etc/resolv.conf see man resolv.conf Let us know how it goes... Unix systems measure "uptime" in years, Winblows measures it in minutes. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message