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I just installed 2.2.5-RELEASE from scratch, and things went flawlessly.
I did it via ftp using a modem...not bad guys!  Anyway, after a lot of
configuring and tweaking, I finally needed to run the addgroup command.
Much to my surprise, it didn't work.  Turns out, /usr/bin/tclsh didn't
exist.  I KNOW I didn't delete it.  NEVER touch anything in /usr/bin.
None the less, I had installed tcl8.02, so I simply edited the script (I
touched something in /usr/bin).  I'd like to know if this is standard
with 2.2.5, or if the tcl8.02 port deleted it, or what.  Also, if this
is a fluke, could someone email me the tclsh that came with
2.2.5-RELEASE so I can fill the hole?  Thanks.

Joe Clarke



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Ok,

I am new to Free-BSD but have set up RedHat and Slackware linux systems
(on this same machine I might add) in the past.

I have a Panasonic CR-563 cdrom that attaches through a proprietary
Soundblaster interface.  I cannot seem to detect it at boot time.

When installing at the "boot:  " prompt I specify -c  then enter visual
mode. Disable all hardware I know that is not present in my machine,
SCSI cards and Ethernet cards (it is a home machine) and press enter on
the Matsushita/Panasonic CD-Rom device.  

I change the I/O address to 0x630. Windows 95 shows the device at 0x630
and linux also detects the drive at 0x630.  Kernel parameter in linux is
"sbpcd=0x630,LaserMate" if that means anything to anyone.  Then I save
the userconfig parameters and continue booting.  

The drive light flashes like the drive is read, but when I select it as
my installation media I get the now infamous "No CDROM devices found....
blah blah blah" error.  I can switch to virtual console 2 and see the
line: "DEBUG:  Try at matcdc0 retruns errno 2".

These are the only error messages I seem to get.  I know it is not a
hardware problem because the drive works perfectly in Windows.  Can
someone please help me.


James Higgins


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From: Rudy Gireyev <rgireyev@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re:  X and Dell 17 inch
To: Shoma & Ash Yadav <shomash@mbox4.singnet.com.sg>
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Happy New Year Ash!

What resolution are you picking in XF86Config?
Resolution and mode go hand in hand, which mode are you picking?
Are you setting the clock stuff?
Does XF86Config ask you to set the clock stuff?
Are you setting the RAMDAC?
Does XF86Config ask you to set the RAMDAC?
Are you running virtual desktop?

Rudy


---Shoma & Ash Yadav <shomash@mbox4.singnet.com.sg> wrote:
>
> Rudy,
> Yes I did run XF86Config .. but the resolution keeps defaulting to
320x200
> and the Ctrl-Alt-+ or - does not change the resolution in any way.
> Cheers
> Ash ;)
> 
> p.s. Happy New Year !!!!
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rudy Gireyev <rgireyev@yahoo.com>
> To: Shoma & Ash Yadav <shomash@mbox4.singnet.com.sg>;
questions@freebsd.org
> <questions@freebsd.org>
> Date: Thursday, January 01, 1998 10:44 AM
> Subject: Re:
> 
> 
> >Ash, did you run XF86Config?
> >I think that is all you have to do.
> >You can run from /stand/sysinstall or yourself from /usr/X11R6
somewhere
> >
> >Rudy
> >
> >---Shoma & Ash Yadav <shomash@mbox4.singnet.com.sg> wrote:
> >>
> >> Alex,
> >> Thanx a lot for the info . I did manage to get it to work after
> >enabling the
> >> psm0 device. Another frustrating problem that I have run into now
is
> >trying
> >> to get my DELL VS17 monitor to display a larger screen space. It
> >seems to
> >> default to 320x200 . I have tried making changes that are suggested
> >in the
> >> monitors file but to no avail. Would appreciate your help in
> >figuring this
> >> out. I have tried using twm, gwm and fvwm95 and all default to the
> >320x200
> >> display.
> >>
> >> thanx
> >> Ash ;)
> >>
> >> Wish you all a Hap-Hap-Happy New Year
> >>
> >>
> >
> >_________________________________________________________
> >DO YOU YAHOO!?
> >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
> 
> 

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To: Shoma & Ash Yadav <shomash@mbox4.singnet.com.sg>,
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OK, OK I cannot beleive I could have been this stupid.
After I read this message I think it finally hit me.
When I was configuring my X the default configuration that
ships with X was pointing to the wrong Xresources file.

So, what I'm basically trying to say is that X never sees
any of your changes and uses the same file as it used the very first
time.
Possibly, a default example file that shipped with X.

Rudy


---Shoma & Ash Yadav <shomash@mbox4.singnet.com.sg> wrote:
>
> Hi Greg,
> The machine has a S3 Vision 864 chipset ( which is what I got from
> SuperProbe). I am using the SVGA server eith it and the chips set is
set to
> generic . I can't send u the startx output cause my FreeBSD machine
is'nt
> networked yet and I cannot copy files over to my PC from where I am
sending
> this email. However startfx does not seem to notice the new display
modes
> and defaults to builtin 320x200. The entry for that has a (--) so I
guess it
> is not reading it from the XF86Config file. Also if I cahnge to
anything
> above 8 bpp it complains that my "generic" chipset will not allow it.
> 
> thanx
> Ash ;)
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
> To: Shoma & Ash Yadav <shomash@mbox4.singnet.com.sg>
> Cc: John Preisler <john@vapornet.net>; dwite@resnet.uoregon.edu
> <dwite@resnet.uoregon.edu>; garbanzo@hooked.net <garbanzo@hooked.net>;
> questions@FreeBSD.ORG <questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
> Date: Thursday, January 01, 1998 2:51 PM
> Subject: Re: changing screen res in X
> 
> 
> >On Thu, Jan 01, 1998 at 02:30:05PM +0800, Shoma & Ash Yadav wrote:
> >>
> >> John, Doug, Alex
> >> Thanx a lot for your replies ... and wish U all a Hap-Hap-Happy
New Year
> ...
> >> But ... I am still unable to get my SVGA display to go beyond the
320x200
> >> that it defaults to. Even after removing the 320x200 entry for 8
bit
> depth
> >> in SVGA definitions in XF86Config . If anyone out there has
managed to
> run
> >> the X server on a dell VS 17X monitor attached to a Dell Optiplex
590 cd
> u
> >> pls send me a copy of your XF86Config file.
> >
> >Sorry, I haven't been following this thread.  Is this a machine
with a
> >NeoMagic chipset?  If so, you're out of luck: XFree86 doesn't support
> >it.  You should be able to run 640x480 four colours, though.  The
> >alternative is the XI Graphics server, which costs Real Money.
> >
> >If that's not the problem (i.e. you have a different chip set), let's
> >see the output of the startx command.
> >
> >Greg
> 
> 

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At 31 Dec 97 06:11:40 Frank Mayhar wrote regarding Forwarding IP wierdly.

 FM> Else, if someone can tell me how to convince MacAfee VirusScan
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Do you administer your own DNS? Then try giving the MacAfee-update-site the
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Norman / Alex,
I have tried using the S3 server but that bombs out with the following
errors ...

S3V: PCI: unknown ( please report), ID 0x88c1 rev 0, Linear FB@0x40000000
S3V: Unknown S3 Chipset: chip_id = 0xc1 rev.1

Ash ;)
-----Original Message-----
From: Norman C Rice <nrice@emu.sourcee.com>
To: Shoma & Ash Yadav <shomash@mbox4.singnet.com.sg>
Date: Thursday, January 01, 1998 3:29 PM
Subject: Re: changing screen res in X


>On Thu, Jan 01, 1998 at 03:15:14PM +0800, Shoma & Ash Yadav wrote:
>> Hi Greg,
>> The machine has a S3 Vision 864 chipset ( which is what I got from
>
>I haven't been following this real closely, but have you tried using
>the XF86_S3 driver (accelerated driver)? You will need to change the
>symbolic link for X.
>
>[snip]
>
>> >On Thu, Jan 01, 1998 at 02:30:05PM +0800, Shoma & Ash Yadav wrote:
>> >>
>> >> John, Doug, Alex
>> >> Thanx a lot for your replies ... and wish U all a Hap-Hap-Happy New
Year
>> ...
>> >> But ... I am still unable to get my SVGA display to go beyond the
320x200
>> >> that it defaults to. Even after removing the 320x200 entry for 8 bit
>> depth
>> >> in SVGA definitions in XF86Config . If anyone out there has managed to
>> run
>> >> the X server on a dell VS 17X monitor attached to a Dell Optiplex 590
cd
>> u
>> >> pls send me a copy of your XF86Config file.
>> >
>> >Sorry, I haven't been following this thread.  Is this a machine with a
>> >NeoMagic chipset?  If so, you're out of luck: XFree86 doesn't support
>> >it.  You should be able to run 640x480 four colours, though.  The
>> >alternative is the XI Graphics server, which costs Real Money.
>> >
>> >If that's not the problem (i.e. you have a different chip set), let's
>> >see the output of the startx command.
>> >
>> >Greg
>
>--
>Regards,
>Norman C. Rice, Jr.


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I have a FreeBSD 2.2.5 mouse problem. I had the same problem in 2.2.2, and
solved it with a reinstall. I would prefer not to do that this time--it is
so inelegant a solution! I have a 3-button mouse on /cuaa1/sio1/COM2 (the
mouse is switchable between 2- and 3-button settings, and, yes, _is_ set
to 3 buttons).

I have /etc/XF86Config set as

   Section "Pointer"
       Protocol    "MouseSystems"
       Device      "/dev/sysmouse"

, which I understand is appropriate and correct. [Using anything but
/dev/sysmouse here causes the machine to lock up and crash. I have to
either control-alt-delete or push the reset button, which is not cool.]

I have tried /etc/rc.conf in the following settings, to no effect:

   moused_type="NO"
   mouse_port=""
   moused_flags=""

and

   moused_type="mousesystems"
   mouse_port="/dev/cuaa1"
   moused_flags=""

I think that my problem is elsewhere; I have tried all kinds of different
values in /etc/XF86Config and /etc/rc.conf, and also 

   vidcontrol -m on

and...no mouse movement. It is like the night before Christmas in X.

X will start up this way....It opens, and the cursor just sits, dead in
the water. Ugh.

Can anyone suggest another file that might be missing or malconfigured?

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Rudy Gireyev wrote:
> 
> If there are only two machines involved what's wrong with a regular
> parallel (laplink) cable? :-)

Performance, of course. A laplink cable will be roughly 10 times slower
than Ethernet, if not more.

> Or am I lost here?
> 
> Rudy
> 

Nadav

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freebsd@phoenix.aldhfn.org (Skip Watson) writes:
> 	I thought that I had read (rather some time ago) that long login
> names were usable. Is it true? 

For FreeBSD 3.0-current yes, for FreeBSD 2.2.x no.

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Folks,
I finally got the X server to work right after going thru the xf86config =
program and select the S3 server. I was earlier selecting the S3V server =
and SVGA which did not work. Thanx to everyone who send in their =
suggestions. I look forward to playing around more with freeBSD and =
having the wonderful support network out on the net.

Kudos to all ....

Cheers
Ash ;)

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I personally dont trust ssh - I have no other reason not to trust it than
that I suffered a root incursion once shortly after installing it - since
it was the last thing in, I did not reinstall it when I rebuilt the
system.

On Wed, 31 Dec 1997, Randy Katz wrote:

> Ok,
> 
> Please help me out here. I shut off telnet to a particular host and had 
> sshd & ftpd (wu beta 15) running with access only from one other host. The 
> other host had telnetd running and ftpd.
> 
> They got into the host (let's call it host1) as root somehow and changed 
> an index.html file of a Web Site (bragging). They erased their trail, 
> blew away wtmp and any log entries...
> 
> The way I know they got in as root is .history in /root had entries of 
> their activity.
> 
> The other host which could access this server via ssh had no sign of 
> molestation that I can see. The log files and wtmp were completely in 
> tact and no entries from anyone other then the intended (only 2 people 
> log into this machine).
> 
> I WANT TO KNOW HOW THEY DID IT. Can anyone address this?
> 
> I'm NOT asking for a solution about what to do. I just want to know how 
> they gained access. The machine is FreeBSD 2.2.5 the latest.
> 
> Thanx again,
> Randy Katz
> 

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On Thu, Jan 01, 1998 at 06:29:43PM +0800, Shoma & Ash Yadav wrote:
> Norman / Alex,
> I have tried using the S3 server but that bombs out with the following
> errors ...
> 
> S3V: PCI: unknown ( please report), ID 0x88c1 rev 0, Linear FB@0x40000000
                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
It appears that you used the accelerated driver (the one that xf86config
suggested?). I don't know which version of XFree86 you're running (X -showconfig),
but Version 3.3.1 from August 11, 1997 has the following highlight:

 "Various problems with the S3V server and the SVGA s3v driver have been fixed."

If you are running the current XFree86 release, you should report the above
message and background data to the XFree86 Project at www.xfree86.org. There
is a link on their web site, "Report a bug or ask about a problem", that you
can use for this purpose. You should search/read their FAQ prior to your 
submission (etiquette).

> S3V: Unknown S3 Chipset: chip_id = 0xc1 rev.1
> 
> Ash ;)
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Norman C Rice <nrice@emu.sourcee.com>
> To: Shoma & Ash Yadav <shomash@mbox4.singnet.com.sg>
> Date: Thursday, January 01, 1998 3:29 PM
> Subject: Re: changing screen res in X
> 
> 
> >On Thu, Jan 01, 1998 at 03:15:14PM +0800, Shoma & Ash Yadav wrote:
> >> Hi Greg,
> >> The machine has a S3 Vision 864 chipset ( which is what I got from
> >
> >I haven't been following this real closely, but have you tried using
> >the XF86_S3 driver (accelerated driver)? You will need to change the
> >symbolic link for X.
> >
> >[snip]
> >
> >> >On Thu, Jan 01, 1998 at 02:30:05PM +0800, Shoma & Ash Yadav wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> John, Doug, Alex
> >> >> Thanx a lot for your replies ... and wish U all a Hap-Hap-Happy New
> Year
> >> ...
> >> >> But ... I am still unable to get my SVGA display to go beyond the
> 320x200
> >> >> that it defaults to. Even after removing the 320x200 entry for 8 bit
> >> depth
> >> >> in SVGA definitions in XF86Config . If anyone out there has managed to
> >> run
> >> >> the X server on a dell VS 17X monitor attached to a Dell Optiplex 590
> cd
> >> u
> >> >> pls send me a copy of your XF86Config file.
> >> >
> >> >Sorry, I haven't been following this thread.  Is this a machine with a
> >> >NeoMagic chipset?  If so, you're out of luck: XFree86 doesn't support
> >> >it.  You should be able to run 640x480 four colours, though.  The
> >> >alternative is the XI Graphics server, which costs Real Money.
> >> >
> >> >If that's not the problem (i.e. you have a different chip set), let's
> >> >see the output of the startx command.
> >> >
> >> >Greg
> >
> >--
> >Regards,
> >Norman C. Rice, Jr.

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Randy Katz wrote:
> 
> Ok,
> 
> Please help me out here. I shut off telnet to a particular host and had
> sshd & ftpd (wu beta 15) running with access only from one other host. The
> other host had telnetd running and ftpd.
> 
> They got into the host (let's call it host1) as root somehow and changed
> an index.html file of a Web Site (bragging). They erased their trail,
> blew away wtmp and any log entries...
> 
> The way I know they got in as root is .history in /root had entries of
> their activity.
> 
> The other host which could access this server via ssh had no sign of
> molestation that I can see. The log files and wtmp were completely in
> tact and no entries from anyone other then the intended (only 2 people
> log into this machine).
> 
> I WANT TO KNOW HOW THEY DID IT. Can anyone address this?
> 
> I'm NOT asking for a solution about what to do. I just want to know how
> they gained access. The machine is FreeBSD 2.2.5 the latest.
> 
> Thanx again,
> Randy Katz

We got attack from somone that screwed up everything on our system two
years ago. We tried to clean up the mess but few months later they
ruined our system completely. We spent all the time we could finding
vulnerable services, but I think they relinked most of the programs with
some sniffers that gave them all information needed any time they
needed.

My advice is to try everything out very thoroughly and act like the
crackers, and try everything out that I can find on the net that is said
exploit security holes. Do it on another system please, some research
system.

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On 01-Jan-98 Shoma & Ash Yadav wrote:
>
>John, Doug, Alex
>Thanx a lot for your replies ... and wish U all a Hap-Hap-Happy New Year ...
>But ... I am still unable to get my SVGA display to go beyond the 320x200
>that it defaults to. Even after removing the 320x200 entry for 8 bit depth
>in SVGA definitions in XF86Config . If anyone out there has managed to run
>the X server on a dell VS 17X monitor attached to a Dell Optiplex 590 cd u
>pls send me a copy of your XF86Config file.
>Any other advise is also appreciated.  FYO, I do not have any extra graphics
>boards on this machine and the Ctrl-Alt-+ option does not change the
>resolution. Since my experience with FreeBSD has been only abt 2 days wd
>appreciate all the help to get this running.
>
>thanx
>Ash ;)
>

I just went through this with my PC  at work running an Mach-64
board. I wish I had kept better notes, but, even though you're dealing
with a different board, certain things apply..

More than likely, the reason you are not getting mode assignments to
640x480 and higher resolutions is that X thinks these are outside the
capability of your monitor, and perhaps your card for those higher than
640x480. A tip-off to this is to start X from a VTY window, then, leave
X and check the start-up messages. "Mode 640x480 does not exist" or
similar messages are generated when the required sync ranges for 640x480
fall outside what X thinks your monitor will stand.

The other problem could be that the virtual resolution or real
resolution specified in XF86Config requires more video ram than
you actually have.

If you know the sync ranges of your monitor, check that you have as
wide a window as possible. Most modern monitors will take 50-70hz vertical
and 30-50khz horizontal. Be careful to not exceed the horiz range
that your monitor will stand. Some monitors could be damaged by
running the horizontal freq outside the specified range, although
I've never seen this happen..it could, so be careful..Mostly, they
just go to the "slanting horizontal line scramble" mode, like an
old TV with a misadjusted Horiz hold control.

The startup messages should leave tracks on which modes were rejected,
but not why. The "why" you have to figure out yourself.

You will find xvidtune very helpful if you get some modes working.
It allows you to center the image and tweek the size.

There used to be a couple of files that were shipped in the "doc"
directory of /usr/X11R6/lib/X11, but I noticed that in the last
few releases, they are gone. I have these somewhere if you need
them, as they explain the theory of scan rates and modes, etc.

Good Luck...

Jim Durham <Television Engineer-Unitel Mobile Video, Pittsburgh>
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Hi all,

I just got my system up and on-line.  I've installed apache and we 
put our first web pages up.  From the local network everything looks 
fine.  When anyone tries to access our system from the outside world 
the jpg file we use as a background stalls out before it can be 
completely retrieved.  It's not real large, about 40k.  I'm using 
kernel ppp 2.2 through an adtran express external isdn modem.  
Freebsd has been just great so far, this is the first real problem 
I've encountered.  Anyone have any idea what's going on?  You can try 
my site at www.tgi.com.  There's not much there but it's a start.  

Thanks,

Dave
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In a previous message, Ricardo AG Almeida said:
> Neither one of these. The correct cabling is:
> 
> 1 -> 3
> 2 -> 6
> 3 -> 1
> 6 -> 2
> 
> As it reverses RX with TX.

Yep, this is the right one. However, it still won't work on
all interfaces. Some cards want power from a hub. My SMC card
needs it (de interface). It's the card not the device driver.

If you really need a hub and have little money to spend. You
might try www.onsale.com. It's an internet auction. I haven't 
bought anything myself, but I've been looking at it, and it
looks like some good prices.


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Hi Doug,

Doug White wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 31 Dec 1997, Palle Girgensohn wrote:
> 
> > Hi!
> >
> > A few Qs about dump:
> >
> > I'd like to use dump from crontab. What happens when a tape shift is
> > required?  If I start a dump from the prompt, I can't detach the process
> > (i.e. no &), or it will stop saying "[1]  + Suspended (tty output)
> > dump". When running it from cron, this seems to work, as long as there
> > is no need for operator intervention.
> 
> The process will probably stick up since it has no connected tty (unless
> dump can handle the ENOTTY error).
> 

Do you mean that it will stick up even if it is run from cron?

In this case, how do I best run unattended dumps? As a script from the
console, that wait until a certain time during the night? 

> > After about four gigs, I get write errors. The tape is a Travan 4/8 GB,
> > and this leads me to believe that the recorder has reached tape end,
> > which is odd, 'cause I believe it has hardware compression. Can dump
> > give me a false error code, or is it write error?
> 
> If the end-of-media indicator on the tape is bad it could cause problems.
> But you probably are at tape end.
> 

I've tried this with more than one tape, and the result is the same. 4GB
into the tape, I get write error. Obviously, I hit the tape end. The
model is a Seagate Hornet CTT8000. I have read the manual, and from what
I can comprehend, there's no built-in hardware compression. Still,
Seagate present fact & figures on how much it stores with hardware
compression. odd... Anyway, I guess 4GB is the limit, unless there's
some way to do software compression. I guess 'tar z...' might work, but
I like dump a lot better than tar...

Is there any way to fix the end-of-media indicator on the tape?

I use 'dump 0uabf 64 /dev/nrst0' and get the following:

  DUMP: 57.03% done, finished in 0:22
  DUMP: write error 1048256 blocks into volume 1
  DUMP: Do you want to restart?: ("yes" or "no")

I'd rather have the option to continue on a new tape.

> >
> > The tape station is a Seagate Travan something. Shows up as:
> > >  (ahc0:5:0): "CONNER CTT8000-S 1.07" type 1 removable SCSI 2
> > >  st0(ahc0:5:0): Sequential-Access density code 0x45,  drive empty
> > at startup.
> >
> > btw, my backup commands look like:
> >
> > dump 0ubf 64 /dev/nrst0 /usr
> 
> try adding the `a' option:
> 
> dump 0aubf ...
> 
> This way the dump will stop at tape end and ask for another tape.

Sorry, I remebered wrong. I do use the 'a' option.

Regards,
Palle

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I want to purchase a printer.  I know that whatever I get will
probably come with a Windoze driver.  However, I want to make
sure what I get is going to be compatible with FreeBSD.  What
should I keep in mind in making my selection.  Thanks for any
input.

     ... doug
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I added the path /usr/apache/man to MANPATH in my .login file but man
still doesn't have any apache data. I also tried man while my current
directory was /usr/apache/man but it didn't work either. I'm afraid I
know very little about how the man system works.

-Geoff

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> 1. You can either cd to the directory and do man from there.
> 2. Include the apache man directory in your man PATH.
>    See man man for exact indtruction
> Rudy
> 
> ---Geoffrey Robinson <grobin@accessv.com> wrote:
> >
> > Greetings,
> > I just installed the apache-current port into the directory
> /usr/apache/
> > and discovered that all though there are man files in the Apache
> > directory I can't access them through man. Has something gone wrong
> > during the install or do I need to add them to man myself somehow?
> >
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On Thu, 1 Jan 1998 mgraffam@mhv.net wrote:
> Upload an evil library, and set the environment that telnetd sets up
> to call that lib rather than the ordinary stuffs, the evil lib gives 
> a root shell. Hmm.. this implies ELF, so I dont think FreeBSD would
> be vulnerable to this attack:

This did affect FreeBSD and most other Unixes. It was fixed a couple of
years ago, I think sometime between the 2.0.5 and 2.1.0 releases. I
wouldn't worry about it today. 

> Once root is attained, much cloaking can be done. One can modify the 'ps'
> program to hide processes, along with modified netcat programs, etc. There
> is a common package in the hacker world called the 'root kit' .. it is a
> collection of modified utils that do exactly that: hide your existance.

BSD-derived Unixes have features to prevent such cloaking, by preventing
everyone (even root) from changing important data. These features have
to be specifically enabled. In short: set the "immutable" flag on all
important binaries and scripts (see "man chflags") and run the system
with securelevel set non-zero. The immutable files then can't be
modified, and the immutable flag can't be removed except by taking the
system down to single-user mode.



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On Thu, 1 Jan 1998, Shoma & Ash Yadav wrote:

> Norman / Alex,
> I have tried using the S3 server but that bombs out with the following
> errors ...
> 
> S3V: PCI: unknown ( please report), ID 0x88c1 rev 0, Linear FB@0x40000000
> S3V: Unknown S3 Chipset: chip_id = 0xc1 rev.1

Well if you're sure it has an S3 chip in it, then go ahead and e-mail the
guys who work on XFree. (their web site is at www.xfree86.org)

- alex


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On Thu, 1 Jan 1998, Steve Hovey wrote:
> I personally dont trust ssh - I have no other reason not to trust it than
> that I suffered a root incursion once shortly after installing it - since
> it was the last thing in, I did not reinstall it when I rebuilt the
> system.

I dont think this is necessarily a problem with ssh. Ssh's security can
be circumvented through the insecurity of other things that are running,
such as ftp.

While I havent looked over every line of ssh source, what I have seen
shows good technique against programming glitches that allow root access
through broken suid programs, and the crypto looks fine when compared
against other (trusted) implementations.


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On Thu, 1 Jan 1998, Steve Reid wrote:

> On Thu, 1 Jan 1998 mgraffam@mhv.net wrote:
> > Upload an evil library, and set the environment that telnetd sets up
> > to call that lib rather than the ordinary stuffs, the evil lib gives 
> > a root shell. Hmm.. this implies ELF, so I dont think FreeBSD would
> > be vulnerable to this attack:
> 
> This did affect FreeBSD and most other Unixes. It was fixed a couple of
> years ago, I think sometime between the 2.0.5 and 2.1.0 releases. I
> wouldn't worry about it today. 

Ah, ok it did affect FreeBSD .. ok. I knew that it was patched everywhere
by now, but the original poster said that his system had been hacked 
a few OS revisions ago, so I thought that this might apply.

> BSD-derived Unixes have features to prevent such cloaking, by preventing
> everyone (even root) from changing important data. These features have
> to be specifically enabled. In short: set the "immutable" flag on all
> important binaries and scripts (see "man chflags") and run the system
> with securelevel set non-zero. The immutable files then can't be
> modified, and the immutable flag can't be removed except by taking the
> system down to single-user mode.

Yeah, this might be true (I havent looked into the mechanisms of this, 
are we sure that an attacker can't modify the files through an indirect
means?), but as you note these measures need to be specifically enabled
and I doubt many people enable such features.. so, on the average system
where root privledges can attained in the first place, these options
are probably not configured. 

However, I dont see how this will necessarily help you against files
that need to get changed, just as log files and utmp, unless the system
just makes an artificial distinction between legitimate changes to the
file and human-specified changes.. in which case I'm quite sure that
a clever attacker could trick the ever-stupid computer. However for
bins such as ps and netstat, you are absolutably correct.. I still
prefer tripwire or a similar set up, however because a determined attacker
could probably modifiy the disk itself, and while the odds on this 
being useful for implementing an evil ps or netcat are slim at best,
it still leaves me suspicious.

This is a good point though, it might be wise to start shipping FreeBSD
with important files locked up as the default.

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Doug,

This a difficult question to answer because there are so many "depends".

It depends on:

	1.  Where will you be using it (work or home)?
	2.  Who's paying for it? (you or work)?
	3.  What's the primary purpose (graphics, text, typesetting, etc.)?

If it's for work (and they're paying for it :-) ) go for a laser printer
which supports postscript natively.

If it's for home and you don't want to spend a truck load of cash, check
out http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/index.html for a list of printers
supported by the latest version of ghostscript.  If you're going to use
ghostscript I would suggest installing apsfilter from the ports
collection.  It does a good job of taking the pain out of setting up print
services. 

Personally, I use a HP DeskJet 870 Cse with the cdj850 'driver' for
ghostscript 5.03 and apsfilter.  I'm very satisfied with both.

Hope this helps.

- - burton -


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On Thu, 1 Jan 1998, Doug Jolley wrote:

> Date: Thu, 1 Jan 1998 10:05:00 -0800 (PST)
> From: Doug Jolley <doug@bigwheel.net>
> To: questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: Printer selection
> 
> I want to purchase a printer.  I know that whatever I get will
> probably come with a Windoze driver.  However, I want to make
> sure what I get is going to be compatible with FreeBSD.  What
> should I keep in mind in making my selection.  Thanks for any
> input.
> 
>      ... doug
> _____________________________________________________________________
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Geoffrey Robinson wrote:
> 
> I added the path /usr/apache/man to MANPATH in my .login file but man
> still doesn't have any apache data. I also tried man while my current
> directory was /usr/apache/man but it didn't work either. I'm afraid I
> know very little about how the man system works.

	With all due respect, you were already offered the solution that will
save you the most grief, namely "use the port." You should back up any
configuration files that you have already worked on, delete every trace
of the apache that you installed and install it again from the ports
collection. 

	One excellent example of why the ports collection is a good idea is
that a patch for a recently uncovered security flaw in apache was
applied the same day it was made available. You have a whole team of
people looking out for you that are trying to make your life easier,
take advantage of that. :)

Good luck,

Doug

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> Given that the only secure machine is one turned off, I think you're
> better off running ssh than not.

My definition of a completely secure computer:

	1.  Disconnected from all networks (including PG & E, or your
	    local power company)

	2.  Secured in 6 feet of cement.

	3.  No I/O of any kind.

It sure is secure, but nobody can use it!

- burton -


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From: Alex <garbanzo@hooked.net>

>On Thu, 1 Jan 1998, Shoma & Ash Yadav wrote:
>
>> Norman / Alex,
>> I have tried using the S3 server but that bombs out with the following
>> errors ...
>>
>> S3V: PCI: unknown ( please report), ID 0x88c1 rev 0, Linear FB@0x40000000
>> S3V: Unknown S3 Chipset: chip_id = 0xc1 rev.1
>
>Well if you're sure it has an S3 chip in it, then go ahead and e-mail the
>guys who work on XFree. (their web site is at www.xfree86.org)


Looks like you might be using the wrong server... there is a difference
between S3 and S3V


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Skip Watson wrote:
> 
>         I thought that I had read (rather some time ago) that long login
> names were usable. Is it true? If so how do I set it up. We get a lot of
> requests from new users for names that are longer than 8 characters.

	If you run -Current the capacity is built in. Since you're asking the
question, I'll assume you're running -Stable. What you want is not
impossible, but you will have to do some work to get it. There are
parameters you need to change in two files. In /sys/sys/param.h change
MAXLOGNAME to 18. In /usr/src/include/utmp.h change UT_NAMESIZE to 16.
Now you need to rebuild your entire system using the "make world"
approach. Help for this is available on a web page where I rewrote the
out of date tutorial that's on www.freebsd.org. The URL is
http://home.san.rr.com/freebsd/upgrade.html. Make sure that you change
these two values each time you update your sources. The values I have
here will give you access to 16 character usernames.

	Once the make world is complete, you will want to recompile anything
that you've installed locally that access wtmp (like sshd and xterm to
quote the most common culprits) and any other local package that is
having trouble. 

	You will find more info by taking advantage of the mail archives at
http://www.freebsd.org/search.html, which is always a good place to
start anyway. :)

Good luck,

Doug

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Being used to /etc/shutdown.d in SysV, I can't understand BSD can do without
it.

In sysV, /etc/shutdown.d contains scripts to shutdown system services etc. at
shutdown in a proper and orderly way; the scripts are executed in alfabetical
order.

What would one do to ensure e.g. first the application using the database is
shutdown, then the database itself is shutdown.

Init, or the shutdown-command sends kill -15 to all running processes, the man
says, but it doesn't say in which order.

Am I the only one missing a neat way to do it, or do you folks out there never
stop your servers? :-)

Could, and would somebody implement a sysV-like shutdown.d, just as there
exists a dir (or more) to start scripts at startup? I don't want to have to
have a special script I have to remember to call instead just shutdown, reboot
and halt. 
Or would this be blasfemous(sp?) against the BSD-belief to do such a
sysV-thing? 

Leif Neland
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On Mon, 29 Dec 1997 sola@sover.net wrote:

> does any version of FreeBSD support adaptec 2920 PCI SCSI controller?

Yes.

Doug White                              | University of Oregon  
Internet:  dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu    | Residence Networking Assistant
http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite    | Computer Science Major



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I recently purchased an Iomega Zip drive. It is ATAPI floppy. I have 
downloaded Freebsd 2.2.5, it recognizes it as IOMEGA ZIP 100 in dmesg, but 
I can't mount it, it says that the device doesn't exist. I was wondering if 
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> > BSD-derived Unixes have features to prevent such cloaking, by preventing
> > everyone (even root) from changing important data.
> 
> Yeah, this might be true (I havent looked into the mechanisms of this, 
> are we sure that an attacker can't modify the files through an indirect
> means?)

There are indirect ways of doing it, but they can be prevented...

An attacker could unmount the filesystem, change it by messing with the
disk device, then re-mount it. This only works when securelevel is 1. 
When securelevel is 2, the disk devices are read-only whether mounted or
not. 

More likely, the attacker would find a system binary or script that is
used _before_ securelevel is set, and modify it so that the trojans take
over the system as soon as it is rebooted. This is only possible if the
sysadmin forgets to "chflags schg" something. 

Another possibility is that the attacker would trick the system into
lowering the securelevel. This means finding a hole in the kernel or
init, which is probably a lot harder than finding a hole in a setuid
program. 

All in all, securelevel is a very well thought-out feature of 4.4 BSD.

> However, I dont see how this will necessarily help you against files
> that need to get changed, just as log files and utmp

Log files can be set append-only. I'm not sure about wtmp/utmp. 

> This is a good point though, it might be wise to start shipping FreeBSD
> with important files locked up as the default.

It has been a while since I last used FreeBSD; I'm stuck with wimpos95
for the moment. Last time I used it (2.0.5 - 2.1.7), it _did_ have a lot
of binaries set immutable, but left securelevel at 0 by default. 
(OpenBSD on the other hand, sets securelevel to 1 by default, but
doesn't set anything immutable. *shrug*) 

Anyone interested in setting up non-zero securelevel (I think the
variable's full name is kern.securelevel, set by sysctl) should read the
man pages for init, chflags, sysctl, and probably others. There are
probably other sources of info around the web. The freebsd-security list
archives might have some info. 

Securelevel is a good reason to choose *BSD over Linux in any
environment where security is a concern. As far as I know, Linux doesn't
have any equivalent security features. 



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I downloaded the packages sp-1.2.1 and jade-1.0.1 from 2.2.5-RELEASE, and
was able to install them without any rude messages.

However, I am a total beginner with SGML, having used groff/mm for some
time, and lout very recently.  I would like to know how to get from an
SGML-tagged document, based on a given DTD, to a Postscript file suitable
for printing.  I don't want to fiddle with the DTD and DSSSL until I can
get some simple examples processed. 

So my questions are :-

1) Are there other packages I need to install?
2) What is a suitable sequence of commands?
3) Are there other successful users of SGML and Jade under FreeBSD?
- and on a related topic -
4) How widely used is lout?  I was very impressed with the ease of
installation, learning curve and high-quality output, but I don't want to
invest a lot of time in producing documents with a very unusual tag-set. 

Thanks in advance! Happy New Year - less than 2 years to 2000!



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On Thu, 1 Jan 1998, Joe "Marcus" Clarke wrote:

> I just installed 2.2.5-RELEASE from scratch, and things went flawlessly.
> I did it via ftp using a modem...not bad guys!  Anyway, after a lot of
> configuring and tweaking, I finally needed to run the addgroup command.
> Much to my surprise, it didn't work.  Turns out, /usr/bin/tclsh didn't
> exist.  I KNOW I didn't delete it.  NEVER touch anything in /usr/bin.
> None the less, I had installed tcl8.02, so I simply edited the script (I
> touched something in /usr/bin).  I'd like to know if this is standard
> with 2.2.5, or if the tcl8.02 port deleted it, or what.  Also, if this
> is a fluke, could someone email me the tclsh that came with
> 2.2.5-RELEASE so I can fill the hole?  Thanks.

That's confirmed; the 2.2.5 bin distribution doesn't have tclsh, but the
2.2.2 one does. I'll submit a bug report.

If you use XWindows, you'll have to install the full tcl distribution at
some point and that will bring a fresh copy of tclsh with you.

In the meantime, you can edit /etc/group directly.  Just remember the
usernames are separated by commas and NO SPACES!

**Next week** you can fetch it from:

ftp://gdi.uoregon.edu/pub/tclsh

I'm off net until they reopen my dorm on Sunday. :-(

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On Wed, 31 Dec 1997, Mark Turrin wrote:

> 
> Hi,
> 
> I use to backup my BSD 2.2.2 box to a Apple Network server called slugo
> running AIX 4.1.4.0 using the following command: 
> 
> rdump -0cfus slugo:/dev/rmt0.1 2200000 /dev/sd0a        # /
> rdump -0cfus slugo:/dev/rmt0.1 2200000 /dev/sd0s1e      # /home
> rdump -0cfus slugo:/dev/rmt0.1 2200000 /dev/sd0s1g      # /usr
> rdump -0cfus slugo:/dev/rmt0.1 2200000 /dev/sd0s1h      # /var

Oops, no dash.  In addiiton, the f and s options are out of date.  You
should use the a and b options for optimum tape usage.  See the dump man
page for details.

> I used this for over a year and even restored remotely onto a new 
> hard drive after the original failed.  
> 
> 
> After installing FreeBSD 2.2.5 the commands fail and I get the following
> error:
> 
> Unknown arguments to dump: 2200000 /dev/sd0a
> Unknown arguments to dump: 2200000 /dev/sd0s1e
> Unknown arguments to dump: 2200000 /dev/sd0s1g
> Unknown arguments to dump: 2200000 /dev/sd0s1h
> 
> So what command do I need to use to make this work?

Try taking the dash off.

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On Thu, 1 Jan 1998, Joe "Marcus" Clarke wrote:

> I just installed 2.2.5-RELEASE from scratch, and things went flawlessly.
> I did it via ftp using a modem...not bad guys!  Anyway, after a lot of
> configuring and tweaking, I finally needed to run the addgroup command.
> Much to my surprise, it didn't work.  Turns out, /usr/bin/tclsh didn't
> exist.  I KNOW I didn't delete it.  NEVER touch anything in /usr/bin.
> None the less, I had installed tcl8.02, so I simply edited the script (I
> touched something in /usr/bin).  I'd like to know if this is standard
> with 2.2.5, or if the tcl8.02 port deleted it, or what.  Also, if this
> is a fluke, could someone email me the tclsh that came with
> 2.2.5-RELEASE so I can fill the hole?  Thanks.

After looking into this, it looks like tclsh was dumped since there is
nothing in the base distribution that requires any parts of tcl7.5 except
the library, and addgroup was supposed to go but wasn't deleted before
2.2.5 was checked out . From what I can tell of the state of the CVS tree
at current, it looks like addgroup has been removed.  I'll submit the bug
report anyway just to confirm. 

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On Thu, 1 Jan 1998, James Higgins wrote:

> Ok,
> 
> I am new to Free-BSD but have set up RedHat and Slackware linux systems
> (on this same machine I might add) in the past.
> 
> I have a Panasonic CR-563 cdrom that attaches through a proprietary
> Soundblaster interface.  I cannot seem to detect it at boot time.
> 
> When installing at the "boot:  " prompt I specify -c  then enter visual
> mode. Disable all hardware I know that is not present in my machine,
> SCSI cards and Ethernet cards (it is a home machine) and press enter on
> the Matsushita/Panasonic CD-Rom device.  
> 
> I change the I/O address to 0x630. Windows 95 shows the device at 0x630
> and linux also detects the drive at 0x630.  Kernel parameter in linux is
> "sbpcd=0x630,LaserMate" if that means anything to anyone.  Then I save
> the userconfig parameters and continue booting.  

Did you set the interrupt?

> The drive light flashes like the drive is read, but when I select it as
> my installation media I get the now infamous "No CDROM devices found....
> blah blah blah" error.  I can switch to virtual console 2 and see the
> line: "DEBUG:  Try at matcdc0 retruns errno 2".

Hit scroll lock at the main install menu, then use the arrow keys to
scroll back and see the boot prompt.  See if matcd0 found anything.

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How do they get that kind of control with ftp? Are there standard exploits?
I had removed all anonymous access to that box...guess that wasn't it, eh?


>
>I dont think this is necessarily a problem with ssh. Ssh's security can
>be circumvented through the insecurity of other things that are running,
>such as ftp.
>
>While I havent looked over every line of ssh source, what I have seen
>shows good technique against programming glitches that allow root access
>through broken suid programs, and the crypto looks fine when compared
>against other (trusted) implementations.
>


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On Thu, 1 Jan 1998, Dave Eldenburg wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I just got my system up and on-line.  I've installed apache and we 
> put our first web pages up.  From the local network everything looks 
> fine.  When anyone tries to access our system from the outside world 
> the jpg file we use as a background stalls out before it can be 
> completely retrieved.  It's not real large, about 40k.  I'm using 
> kernel ppp 2.2 through an adtran express external isdn modem.  
> Freebsd has been just great so far, this is the first real problem 
> I've encountered.  Anyone have any idea what's going on?  You can try 
> my site at www.tgi.com.  There's not much there but it's a start.  

It worked fine for me.  The background takes **way** to long to load over
a 28.8 modem, though.  See if you can shrink it to less than 5k.

Also try disabling tcp extensions in /etc/rc.conf and see if that helps.  

A traceroute from me to you has an invalid network number in there
(192.168.*.*) upstream from you.  If you run a traceroute and see it,  you
should bother your ISP that they are violating standards.

gdi,ttyp5,~,11>traceroute www.tgi.com
traceroute to deathstar.tgi.com (199.45.150.242), 30 hops max, 40 byte
packets
 1  cisco-ts7 (128.223.150.47)  134.990 ms  125.607 ms  128.682 ms
 2  cisco1-gw (128.223.150.1)  128.248 ms  124.572 ms  119.043 ms
 3  cisco7-gw (128.223.3.7)  128.334 ms  129.596 ms  217.664 ms
 4  eugene-hub.nero.net (207.98.66.11)  128.371 ms  128.415 ms  119.061 ms
 5  eugene-isp.nero.net (207.98.64.6)  119.099 ms  128.677 ms  119.150 ms
 6  166.48.14.5 (166.48.14.5)  139.104 ms  138.758 ms  139.131 ms
 7  core5.SanFrancisco.mci.net (204.70.4.85)  139.802 ms  138.573 ms
139.144 ms
 8  core1-hssi-2.Sacramento.mci.net (204.70.1.146)  139.058 ms  138.563 ms
139.439 ms
 9  border3-fddi-0.Sacramento.mci.net (204.70.164.19)  138.752 ms  138.813
ms  138.847 ms
10  204.70.167.74 (204.70.167.74)  289.082 ms  228.708 ms  209.122 ms
11  gw58.boulder.co.coop.net (199.45.132.172)  179.095 ms  168.580 ms
189.729 ms
12  199.45.133.250 (199.45.133.250)  208.742 ms  238.776 ms  308.736 ms
****** here
13  192.168.2.1 (192.168.2.1)  249.068 ms  298.770 ms  268.488 ms
****** This is in violation of RFC 1597; 192.168.*.* is reserved
14  pm2.ezlink.com (199.45.150.20)  259.334 ms  217.972 ms  189.134 ms
15  deathstar.tgi.com (199.45.150.242)  289.706 ms  288.623 ms  329.153 ms


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On Thu, 1 Jan 1998, Steve Reid wrote:
> More likely, the attacker would find a system binary or script that is
> used _before_ securelevel is set, and modify it so that the trojans take
> over the system as soon as it is rebooted. This is only possible if the
> sysadmin forgets to "chflags schg" something. 

Yeah, _that_ is a clever little idea. I wouldnt have thought of that
one :)

> Another possibility is that the attacker would trick the system into
> lowering the securelevel. This means finding a hole in the kernel or
> init, which is probably a lot harder than finding a hole in a setuid
> program. 

Yeah, I'd consider this a dead end.. 

> > However, I dont see how this will necessarily help you against files
> > that need to get changed, just as log files and utmp
> 
> Log files can be set append-only. I'm not sure about wtmp/utmp. 

Yeah, but append-only mode isnt necessarily the greatest either.. but
this is really a different issue.. one that centers around how much
one trusts the audit trails. 

> Anyone interested in setting up non-zero securelevel (I think the
> variable's full name is kern.securelevel, set by sysctl) should read the
> man pages for init, chflags, sysctl, and probably others. There are
> probably other sources of info around the web. The freebsd-security list
> archives might have some info. 

Yeah, there is another resource that covers this.. I wish I still had the
URL.. it was a list of links and dox on which programs and features are
of concern for site security. I'll run a search and see if I can re-find
it.

> Securelevel is a good reason to choose *BSD over Linux in any
> environment where security is a concern. As far as I know, Linux doesn't
> have any equivalent security features. 

I dont think there is a direct counterpart in Linux to securelevel either,
but I think that one could set things up to act like various securelevel
states.

Linux's ext2 filesystem has security stuff too. The chattr command will
flip the bits for a file's attributes. You can set it to stuff like
append-only writes, locked access (like immutability), secure deletion
(blocks are zeroed out if the file is erased) and there are hooks in
the code for automatic compression and I think crypto as well (but
these features arent in the stock ext2, as far as I know.. I havent
checked in awhile).. so the file attributes are similar.. though I
havent really put Linux's attribs to the flame and tested them.. I
know that BSD's work.

So, if I had to pick a system, I'd pick BSD too for security.. 

Michael J. Graffam (mgraffam@mhv.net)
http://www.mhv.net/~mgraffam -- Philosophy, Religion, Computers, Crypto, etc
"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-incurred immaturity.
Immaturity is the inability to use one's own understanding without the
guidance of another. . .Sapere aude! Have the courage to use your own
understanding!" - Immanuel Kant "What is Enlightenment?"

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Hi there;
I got by a file called passwd.pag, does any one know what
this this file doing ??
thanks

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On Thu, 1 Jan 1998, Palle Girgensohn wrote:

> > > I'd like to use dump from crontab. What happens when a tape shift is
> > > required?  If I start a dump from the prompt, I can't detach the process
> > > (i.e. no &), or it will stop saying "[1]  + Suspended (tty output)
> > > dump". When running it from cron, this seems to work, as long as there
> > > is no need for operator intervention.
> > 
> > The process will probably stick up since it has no connected tty (unless
> > dump can handle the ENOTTY error).
> > 
> 
> Do you mean that it will stick up even if it is run from cron?

As long as it doesn't prompt for a new tape or whatever.   If it doesn't
require user intervention it should work fine.

I should disclaim that I've never tried this :-)

> In this case, how do I best run unattended dumps? As a script from the
> console, that wait until a certain time during the night? 

> I've tried this with more than one tape, and the result is the same. 4GB
> into the tape, I get write error. Obviously, I hit the tape end. The
> model is a Seagate Hornet CTT8000. I have read the manual, and from what
> I can comprehend, there's no built-in hardware compression. Still,
> Seagate present fact & figures on how much it stores with hardware
> compression. odd... Anyway, I guess 4GB is the limit, unless there's
> some way to do software compression. I guess 'tar z...' might work, but
> I like dump a lot better than tar...

Echo.  You might bother Seagate on that.  You should also check the
density codes; I think one of those actually enables the hardware
compression.  Check the mail archives.

> Is there any way to fix the end-of-media indicator on the tape?

New tape.

> I use 'dump 0uabf 64 /dev/nrst0' and get the following:
> 
>   DUMP: 57.03% done, finished in 0:22
>   DUMP: write error 1048256 blocks into volume 1
>   DUMP: Do you want to restart?: ("yes" or "no")
> 
> I'd rather have the option to continue on a new tape.

> > try adding the `a' option:
> 
> Sorry, I remebered wrong. I do use the 'a' option.

Odd.  In that case, use the B option to list how many blocks fit on a
tape.  

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Hi Jerry;
Check the script /dev/MAKEDEV
you should be able to find a device
there to support IOMEGA ZIP  drive.
then if that device is called zip0
for example you should do a;
cd /dev
./MAKEDEV zip0
then make a directory like /iomega
then mount the created device on the
created directory.
greetings.




---Jerry Barbee <Barbee@internetmci.com> wrote:
>
> I recently purchased an Iomega Zip drive. It is ATAPI floppy. I have 
> downloaded Freebsd 2.2.5, it recognizes it as IOMEGA ZIP 100 in
dmesg, but 
> I can't mount it, it says that the device doesn't exist. I was
wondering if 
> there was a way to perhaps recompile or something to get support?
> Aslo, it works in linux by recompiling the kernel with "ATAPI FLOPPY" 
> support on.
> Thanks,
> Jason
> Deja_Q@usa.net
> 
> 

==
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On Thu, 1 Jan 1998, james wrote:

> What do I need to do to be able to dual boot off two dedicated disks.  I
> want to have one disk BSD, and the other NT.  Any help would be greatly
> appreciated.

Booteasy, the default one, should work fine.  I don't know if it can grok
NTFS though.

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I had this problem and went to /usr/ports/lang/pick your tcl and installed
it and it still didn't show up so then I went into the work/tcl*/bin
directory and copied in manually to /usr/bin and that did the trick...I
assumed that was not the way things were intended to be...

Thanx,
Randy Katz


At 01:59 PM 1/1/98 -0800, Doug White wrote:
>On Thu, 1 Jan 1998, Joe "Marcus" Clarke wrote:
>
>> I just installed 2.2.5-RELEASE from scratch, and things went flawlessly.
>> I did it via ftp using a modem...not bad guys!  Anyway, after a lot of
>> configuring and tweaking, I finally needed to run the addgroup command.
>> Much to my surprise, it didn't work.  Turns out, /usr/bin/tclsh didn't
>> exist.  I KNOW I didn't delete it.  NEVER touch anything in /usr/bin.
>> None the less, I had installed tcl8.02, so I simply edited the script (I
>> touched something in /usr/bin).  I'd like to know if this is standard
>> with 2.2.5, or if the tcl8.02 port deleted it, or what.  Also, if this
>> is a fluke, could someone email me the tclsh that came with
>> 2.2.5-RELEASE so I can fill the hole?  Thanks.
>
>That's confirmed; the 2.2.5 bin distribution doesn't have tclsh, but the
>2.2.2 one does. I'll submit a bug report.
>
>If you use XWindows, you'll have to install the full tcl distribution at
>some point and that will bring a fresh copy of tclsh with you.
>
>In the meantime, you can edit /etc/group directly.  Just remember the
>usernames are separated by commas and NO SPACES!
>
>**Next week** you can fetch it from:
>
>ftp://gdi.uoregon.edu/pub/tclsh
>
>I'm off net until they reopen my dorm on Sunday. :-(
>
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Hi,
on my system my ATAPI Zip drive is detected as a normal hard drive, it is
the second disk on the first controller, so wd1. I can mount it by mounting
wd1s1. I'm not sure if there is some specific driver for the ATAPI zip
drive, but without it I can mount the first disk I put in it, but if I put
another disk in I can't mount it.
Daniel Keller
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Date: Thursday, January 01, 1998 2:19 PM
Subject: Atapi Zip drive


>I recently purchased an Iomega Zip drive. It is ATAPI floppy. I have
>downloaded Freebsd 2.2.5, it recognizes it as IOMEGA ZIP 100 in dmesg, but
>I can't mount it, it says that the device doesn't exist. I was wondering if
>there was a way to perhaps recompile or something to get support?
>Aslo, it works in linux by recompiling the kernel with "ATAPI FLOPPY"
>support on.
>Thanks,
>Jason
>Deja_Q@usa.net
>


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On 1 Jan 1998, Leif Neland wrote:

> Being used to /etc/shutdown.d in SysV, I can't understand BSD can do without
> it.
> 
> In sysV, /etc/shutdown.d contains scripts to shutdown system services etc. at
> shutdown in a proper and orderly way; the scripts are executed in alfabetical
> order.

Because the system will shut them down for you.  When the system is
halted, every process is sent a SIGTERM (signal 15).  most processes will
then exit gracefully.  (Some evil ones that mask SIGTERM then get a
SIGKILL to finish them off).  

> What would one do to ensure e.g. first the application using the database is
> shutdown, then the database itself is shutdown.

1.  exit application
2.  issue shutdown command

> Init, or the shutdown-command sends kill -15 to all running processes, the man
> says, but it doesn't say in which order.

All simultaneously, I think.

> Am I the only one missing a neat way to do it, or do you folks out there never
> stop your servers? :-)

We hope we never have to.  :-)

> Could, and would somebody implement a sysV-like shutdown.d, just as there
> exists a dir (or more) to start scripts at startup? I don't want to have to
> have a special script I have to remember to call instead just shutdown, reboot
> and halt. 
> Or would this be blasfemous(sp?) against the BSD-belief to do such a
> sysV-thing? 

We've told you three or four times to just use a script that kills the
appropriate program(s) then calls shutdown.  

If you want to implement it, go for it; send patches using send-pr.

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On Thu, 1 Jan 1998, Jerry Barbee wrote:

> I recently purchased an Iomega Zip drive. It is ATAPI floppy. I have 
> downloaded Freebsd 2.2.5, it recognizes it as IOMEGA ZIP 100 in dmesg, but 
> I can't mount it, it says that the device doesn't exist. I was wondering if 
> there was a way to perhaps recompile or something to get support?
> Aslo, it works in linux by recompiling the kernel with "ATAPI FLOPPY" 
> support on.

There is no driver for the ATAPI Zip in the releases, but I believe some
work is in progress to remedy that.  Check the -hackers list archives at
http://www.freebsd.org/search.html.

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On Thu, 1 Jan 1998, Randy A. Katz wrote:
> >I dont think this is necessarily a problem with ssh. Ssh's security can
> >be circumvented through the insecurity of other things that are running,
> >such as ftp.

> How do they get that kind of control with ftp? Are there standard exploits?
> I had removed all anonymous access to that box...guess that wasn't it, eh?

Well, because ftp's passwords are sent in the clear one can sniff an FTP
session to get the account password, and like I said before once they
do this..they can change the user's ssh config files to get through ssh.

This is a common attack, a friend of mine had his system hacked in exactly
this way.. fortunately the attacker was a good natured guy, and emailed
his logs and details on the attack to my friend, who then secured ftp.

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On 1 Jan 1998, Leif Neland wrote:

> Am I the only one missing a neat way to do it, or do you folks out there never
> stop your servers? :-)

Under normal circumstances only to upgrade hardware or the operating
system.  :)  Same for workstations.


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Hi there;
I intend to buy a new 6 GB drive, and since I upgraded from 2.2.2-RELEASE
to 3.0-Current over CVSUP, I can't install the system from the system 
without having a bootable floppy, so is there a URL for the boot.flp,
or I will have to install 2.2.2 then upgrade via cvsup.
thanks.

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Has anything replace addgroup?

At 02:21 PM 1/1/98 -0800, Doug White wrote:
>On Thu, 1 Jan 1998, Joe "Marcus" Clarke wrote:
>
>> I just installed 2.2.5-RELEASE from scratch, and things went flawlessly.
>> I did it via ftp using a modem...not bad guys!  Anyway, after a lot of
>> configuring and tweaking, I finally needed to run the addgroup command.
>> Much to my surprise, it didn't work.  Turns out, /usr/bin/tclsh didn't
>> exist.  I KNOW I didn't delete it.  NEVER touch anything in /usr/bin.
>> None the less, I had installed tcl8.02, so I simply edited the script (I
>> touched something in /usr/bin).  I'd like to know if this is standard
>> with 2.2.5, or if the tcl8.02 port deleted it, or what.  Also, if this
>> is a fluke, could someone email me the tclsh that came with
>> 2.2.5-RELEASE so I can fill the hole?  Thanks.
>
>After looking into this, it looks like tclsh was dumped since there is
>nothing in the base distribution that requires any parts of tcl7.5 except
>the library, and addgroup was supposed to go but wasn't deleted before
>2.2.5 was checked out . From what I can tell of the state of the CVS tree
>at current, it looks like addgroup has been removed.  I'll submit the bug
>report anyway just to confirm. 
>
>Doug White                              | University of Oregon  
>Internet:  dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu    | Residence Networking Assistant
>http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite    | Computer Science Major
>
>
>

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Thanks for the help!!!  I will look into all problems mentioned.

Dave

> On Thu, 1 Jan 1998, Dave Eldenburg wrote:
> 
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > I just got my system up and on-line.  I've installed apache and we 
> > put our first web pages up.  From the local network everything looks 
> > fine.  When anyone tries to access our system from the outside world 
> > the jpg file we use as a background stalls out before it can be 
> > completely retrieved.  It's not real large, about 40k.  I'm using 
> > kernel ppp 2.2 through an adtran express external isdn modem.  
> > Freebsd has been just great so far, this is the first real problem 
> > I've encountered.  Anyone have any idea what's going on?  You can try 
> > my site at www.tgi.com.  There's not much there but it's a start.  
> 
> It worked fine for me.  The background takes **way** to long to load over
> a 28.8 modem, though.  See if you can shrink it to less than 5k.
> 
> Also try disabling tcp extensions in /etc/rc.conf and see if that helps.  
> 
> A traceroute from me to you has an invalid network number in there
> (192.168.*.*) upstream from you.  If you run a traceroute and see it,  you
> should bother your ISP that they are violating standards.
> 
> gdi,ttyp5,~,11>traceroute www.tgi.com
> traceroute to deathstar.tgi.com (199.45.150.242), 30 hops max, 40 byte
> packets
>  1  cisco-ts7 (128.223.150.47)  134.990 ms  125.607 ms  128.682 ms
>  2  cisco1-gw (128.223.150.1)  128.248 ms  124.572 ms  119.043 ms
>  3  cisco7-gw (128.223.3.7)  128.334 ms  129.596 ms  217.664 ms
>  4  eugene-hub.nero.net (207.98.66.11)  128.371 ms  128.415 ms  119.061 ms
>  5  eugene-isp.nero.net (207.98.64.6)  119.099 ms  128.677 ms  119.150 ms
>  6  166.48.14.5 (166.48.14.5)  139.104 ms  138.758 ms  139.131 ms
>  7  core5.SanFrancisco.mci.net (204.70.4.85)  139.802 ms  138.573 ms
> 139.144 ms
>  8  core1-hssi-2.Sacramento.mci.net (204.70.1.146)  139.058 ms  138.563 ms
> 139.439 ms
>  9  border3-fddi-0.Sacramento.mci.net (204.70.164.19)  138.752 ms  138.813
> ms  138.847 ms
> 10  204.70.167.74 (204.70.167.74)  289.082 ms  228.708 ms  209.122 ms
> 11  gw58.boulder.co.coop.net (199.45.132.172)  179.095 ms  168.580 ms
> 189.729 ms
> 12  199.45.133.250 (199.45.133.250)  208.742 ms  238.776 ms  308.736 ms
> ****** here
> 13  192.168.2.1 (192.168.2.1)  249.068 ms  298.770 ms  268.488 ms
> ****** This is in violation of RFC 1597; 192.168.*.* is reserved
> 14  pm2.ezlink.com (199.45.150.20)  259.334 ms  217.972 ms  189.134 ms
> 15  deathstar.tgi.com (199.45.150.242)  289.706 ms  288.623 ms  329.153 ms
> 
> 
> Doug White                              | University of Oregon  
> Internet:  dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu    | Residence Networking Assistant
> http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite    | Computer Science Major
> 
> 
> 
> 
--------------------------------------------------
Dave Eldenburg
Thistle Grove Industries, Inc.
dave@tgi.com
--------------------------------------------------


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Hi,
i want to run the FreeBSD 2.2.5 System, but there is a problem with the
Accelerated X-Server  V2.1 i am using. The raw installation works fine, but
when i start the X-Server in test mode with:
/usr/X11R6/bin/Xaccel
i got the following error message:

PCI (#1/1, 8000 000c)
Matrox,16: 2064,TVP3026 (8192k, @e2000000, [0,000 - 220,000Mhz])
failed to set default font path 'here comes the default font path ....'
Fatal server error:
could not open default font 'fixed'

On my old FreeBSD 2.1.5 everthing work fine. Can somebody help me with this
problem?
By the way, the same error occurs under FreeBSD 3.0 Snapshot.

Thanks

Andreas

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I am going to be doing exactly the same thing, except with Linux.  The
easiest way to do it is with NT's boot manager.  Full details are at
http://www.windows-nt.com/multiboot/directboot.html.  Also see
http://www.devious.com/freebsd. 

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Doug White
> Sent: Friday, 2 January 1998 6:40
> To: james
> Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> Subject: Re: Boot mgr.
> 
> 
> On Thu, 1 Jan 1998, james wrote:
> 
> > What do I need to do to be able to dual boot off two dedicated
disks.  I
> > want to have one disk BSD, and the other NT.  Any help would be
greatly
> > appreciated.
> 
> Booteasy, the default one, should work fine.  I don't know if it can
grok
> NTFS though.
> 
> Doug White                              | University of Oregon  
> Internet:  dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu    | Residence Networking
Assistant
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> 

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Has to do with the fact that the fonts are gzipped and Xig's server
expects them in "compress" (.Z) format.

run this script to fix the problem.


#!/bin/bash
#
#  NOTE:  This is a completely unsupported shell script.
#
#  HOW TO USE THIS SCRIPT:
#    
#  Either:
#    1.  Save this file, mark it executable, then run it;
#    2.  Save this file, then do "bash <filename>" to execute it.
#
#  Please report any problems/odd behaviors with this script
#  to support@xig.com .
#     --Thank you for choosing Accelerated-X!--
#          Cordially, Xi Graphics
#
# Read the Xaccel.ini file, parse it's fontpaths, and convert any
#  gzipped (.gz) fonts into compressed (.Z) fonts.
#
# Written for bash, though ksh should work too.  sh might work depending on
#  your OS...
#
# JET 7/17/97
########################################################################
# set -x		# uncomment for debugging

XACCELINI=/etc/Xaccel.ini
GUNZIP="$(type -path gunzip)"
COMPRESS="$(type -path compress)"

# first get the list of fontpaths from XACCELINI

FONTPATHS=""

if [ ! -r $XACCELINI ]
then
	echo "Cannot read $XACCELINI"
	exit 1
fi

if [ ! -x "$COMPRESS" -o ! -x "$GUNZIP" ]
then
	echo "Can not locate either compress or gunzip."
	exit 1
fi

infontp=0
done=0

while read theline
do
	if [ $done -eq 1 ]
	then	# no need to proceed, we're done (skip remaining lines)
		continue
	fi

	if echo "$theline" |fgrep '[FONTPATH]' >/dev/null 2>&1
	then
		infontp=1
		continue
	fi

	if [ $infontp -eq 1 ]
	then	# we're reading fontpaths
		# see if we're at the end (a blank line)
		if [ -z "$theline" ]
		then
			done=1
		fi

		tfp="$(echo $theline |tr -d '\",;')"
		FONTPATHS="$FONTPATHS $tfp"
	fi
done <$XACCELINI

# now we've got the font paths, lets go thru them and convert any gz's
#   into Z's

echo "FONTPATHS=$FONTPATHS"

if [ -z "$FONTPATHS" ]
then
	echo "No fontpaths found...How strange..."
	exit 1
fi

for i in $FONTPATHS
do
	# we'll be extra cautious.  It may be slow, but it should'nt
	#  muck up your system

	for j in $i/*.gz
	do
		if [ ! -r "$j" ]
		then # can't read it? can't convert it
			continue
		fi

		cp $j /tmp
		base="$(basename $j .gz)"

		$GUNZIP -c /tmp/$base.gz |$COMPRESS -c >$(dirname $j)/$base.Z
		if [ $? -ne 0 ]
		then # something bad happened, rm .Z, report and continue
			echo "Problem converting $j - skipping"
			rm -f $(dirname $j)/$base.Z
		else
			# something good happened, rm old .gz file
			# COMMENT the next 2 lines if you want to keep
			#  the gzipped version around...
			echo "$j converted, removing gzipped version."
			rm -f $j

			# cleanup
			chmod 644 $(dirname $j)/$base.Z
			rm -f /tmp/$base.gz
		fi
	done

	echo "Done with $i."
done

echo "Have a glorious day."

exit 0


Strobel (100730.3706@compuserve.com) wrote:
> Hi,
> i want to run the FreeBSD 2.2.5 System, but there is a problem with the
> Accelerated X-Server  V2.1 i am using. The raw installation works fine, but
> when i start the X-Server in test mode with:
> /usr/X11R6/bin/Xaccel
> i got the following error message:
> 
> PCI (#1/1, 8000 000c)
> Matrox,16: 2064,TVP3026 (8192k, @e2000000, [0,000 - 220,000Mhz])
> failed to set default font path 'here comes the default font path ....'
> Fatal server error:
> could not open default font 'fixed'
> 
> On my old FreeBSD 2.1.5 everthing work fine. Can somebody help me with this
> problem?
> By the way, the same error occurs under FreeBSD 3.0 Snapshot.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Andreas

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Hello Doug,

I want to thank you for the suggestion and report back on my successes.
Apparently it did want the f option as it would not work when I removed
it.  Here is the script command that worked:

/sbin/rdump 0cfua slugo:/dev/rmt0.1 /dev/sd0a            # /


Now is it correct that I could replace ``/dev/sd0a'' with the ``/'' (the
real mount point of the partition) and it will still work?

Thanks again and Happy New Year!

___________________________________________________________________
Mark L. Turrin          Drag me, drop me, treat me like an object! 
mlt@linkzone.com




On Thu, 1 Jan 1998, Doug White wrote:

> > I use to backup my BSD 2.2.2 box to a Apple Network server called slugo
> > running AIX 4.1.4.0 using the following command: 
> > 
> > rdump -0cfus slugo:/dev/rmt0.1 2200000 /dev/sd0a        # /
> > rdump -0cfus slugo:/dev/rmt0.1 2200000 /dev/sd0s1e      # /home
> > rdump -0cfus slugo:/dev/rmt0.1 2200000 /dev/sd0s1g      # /usr
> > rdump -0cfus slugo:/dev/rmt0.1 2200000 /dev/sd0s1h      # /var
> 
> Oops, no dash.

Oh OK.  Gee that's what I love about Unix.  All commands use dashes except
one.  gotta love it. :-P


  In addiiton, the f and s options are out of date.  You
> should use the a and b options for optimum tape usage.  See the dump man
> page for details.



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On Thu, 1 Jan 1998, Doug White wrote:

>On Thu, 1 Jan 1998, Joe "Marcus" Clarke wrote:
>
>> I just installed 2.2.5-RELEASE from scratch, and things went flawlessly.
>> I did it via ftp using a modem...not bad guys!  Anyway, after a lot of
>> configuring and tweaking, I finally needed to run the addgroup command.
>> Much to my surprise, it didn't work.  Turns out, /usr/bin/tclsh didn't
>> exist.  I KNOW I didn't delete it.  NEVER touch anything in /usr/bin.
>
>That's confirmed; the 2.2.5 bin distribution doesn't have tclsh, but the
>2.2.2 one does. I'll submit a bug report.

I submitted this as misc/4938 on 11/04/97; it is still open.

GReg
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Doug White wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 1 Jan 1998, James Higgins wrote:
> 
> > Ok,
> >
> > I change the I/O address to 0x630. Windows 95 shows the device at 0x630
> > and linux also detects the drive at 0x630.  Kernel parameter in linux is
> > "sbpcd=0x630,LaserMate" if that means anything to anyone.  Then I save
> > the userconfig parameters and continue booting.
> 
> Did you set the interrupt?
> 

There is no way to specify an interrupt as far as I can tell.

> > The drive light flashes like the drive is read, but when I select it as
> > my installation media I get the now infamous "No CDROM devices found....
> > blah blah blah" error.  I can switch to virtual console 2 and see the
> > line: "DEBUG:  Try at matcdc0 retruns errno 2".
> 
> Hit scroll lock at the main install menu, then use the arrow keys to
> scroll back and see the boot prompt.  See if matcd0 found anything.


I went ahead and installed off an MSDOS partition since I had he space
and I thought maybe I could make some sense out of it if I saw the
kernel configuration.

It does not detect a drive while installing or if I compile a kernel
with the following line in the configuration.

controller matcd0 at isa ? port 0x630 bio

I also read in the mailing list archive that someone else had a problem
if the ID jumper on the drive was not one.  I also changed that from 3
to one.  The drive still works in DOS/Windows and nothing in FreeBSD.

I also tried setting the port to -1 and having the driver probe.  No
luck.  In the file /usr/src/sys/i386/isa/matcd/options.h it is stated
that you there are additional I/O ports that can be autoprobed but are
not by default since the are usually the addresses of network or SCSI
cards.  Considering I have netither I enabled the additional I/O ports,
recompiled and still no drive detected.  

The strangest part off all this mess is that the drive activity light
comes on like it is being read during the boot sequence.

Hmmmmm ponderous.

Any further suggestions?

James Higgins


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> On Thu, 1 Jan 1998, Steve Hovey wrote:
> 
>     > 
>     > I personally dont trust ssh - I have no other reason not to trust it than
>     > that I suffered a root incursion once shortly after installing it - since
>     > it was the last thing in, I did not reinstall it when I rebuilt the
>     > system.
> 
> When we installed ssh, we tested and checked against a dump. Normal
> telnet login sends the password 1 character per packet -- fairly easy
> to pick out of a dump. Ssh, though, collects the entire password,
> encrypts it and sends one packet. If we weren't using a target machine
> with no other activity, we would likely have missed it. 

Errrum, that's not true AFAIK.  Ssh's authentication is challenge 
based - it goes something like this:

The server sends some random data, the client encrypts it using his 
private key, his machines private key and the servers public key and 
sends the answer to the server.  The server decrypts it using its 
private key, the client machines public key and the clients public 
key, then compares it against the original.  Someone watching the 
conversation will be none the wiser.

I'm sure it's more complicated than this too :-)

> -- Jay
> 

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I tried changing the "system console" to ISO88591 and I could see the
characters in the command line by holding down my ALT key and pressin
their ASCII values, but then /stand/sysinstall's borders got changed
to funny characters.

I also couldn't figure out how to set Netscape to see those
characters.



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What settings do I need to change to be able to see Spanish
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characters in the command line by holding down my ALT key and pressin
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to funny characters.

I also couldn't figure out how to set Netscape to see those
characters.



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What settings do I need to change to be able to see Spanish
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I tried changing the "system console" to ISO88591 and I could see the
characters in the command line by holding down my ALT key and pressin
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to funny characters.

I also couldn't figure out how to set Netscape to see those
characters.



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On Thu, 1 Jan 1998, Brian Somers wrote:

> Errrum, that's not true AFAIK.  Ssh's authentication is challenge 
> based - it goes something like this:
> 
> The server sends some random data, the client encrypts it using his 
> private key, his machines private key and the servers public key and 
> sends the answer to the server.  The server decrypts it using its 
> private key, the client machines public key and the clients public 
> key, then compares it against the original.  Someone watching the 
> conversation will be none the wiser.

I dont think that ssh uses this variation on RSA authentication, but
it well may .. however it is also true that ssh uses symmetric crypto
of the password (if you use a Unix password to login). 

In this scenario, public key crypto is used to send a session key for
IDEA or 3DES, or whatever you're using, and then the clients asks the
user for his Unix password, it is encrypted (along with all other traffic)
with the IDEA|3DES session key and sent to the host, decrypted and
verified as usual.

Ssh supports other authentication schemes as well, including kerberos
(if it is compiled in) and TIS, though I know nothing of this later
scheme.

Michael J. Graffam (mgraffam@mhv.net)
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You could be right. Two of us checked the dumps and we were none the
wiser. One of us tailed the dump while the other logged in. All we saw
was the one packet leaving after the password was entered. After that,
all was encrypted garbage. Our conclusion was that it was far better
to use ssh than not.

I think I may look at ssh more closely. Thanks

-- Jay

On Thu, 1 Jan 1998, Brian Somers wrote:

    > > On Thu, 1 Jan 1998, Steve Hovey wrote:
    > > 
    > >     > 
    > >     > I personally dont trust ssh - I have no other reason not to trust it than
    > >     > that I suffered a root incursion once shortly after installing it - since
    > >     > it was the last thing in, I did not reinstall it when I rebuilt the
    > >     > system.
    > > 
    > > When we installed ssh, we tested and checked against a dump. Normal
    > > telnet login sends the password 1 character per packet -- fairly easy
    > > to pick out of a dump. Ssh, though, collects the entire password,
    > > encrypts it and sends one packet. If we weren't using a target machine
    > > with no other activity, we would likely have missed it. 
    > 
    > Errrum, that's not true AFAIK.  Ssh's authentication is challenge 
    > based - it goes something like this:
    > 
    > The server sends some random data, the client encrypts it using his 
    > private key, his machines private key and the servers public key and 
    > sends the answer to the server.  The server decrypts it using its 
    > private key, the client machines public key and the clients public 
    > key, then compares it against the original.  Someone watching the 
    > conversation will be none the wiser.
    > 
    > I'm sure it's more complicated than this too :-)
    > 
    > > -- Jay
    > > 
    > 
    > -- 
    > Brian <brian@Awfulhak.org>, <brian@FreeBSD.org>, <brian@OpenBSD.org>
    >       <http://www.Awfulhak.org>
    > Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour....



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Thanks for all your help regarding "built-in" tcl.  I grabbed the exec
and libs from an upgraded 2.2.5 machine (upgraded from 2.2.2).  I just
wanted to avoid making changes to the system below /usr/local.  I feel
most problems can be avoided by staying out of system default binaries
and libraries.  The tcl8.0.2 port works quite well for addgroup in case
anybody wonders.  Thanks again for all the advice.

Joe Clarke

On Thu, 1 Jan 1998 gsutter@pobox.com wrote:

> On Thu, 1 Jan 1998, Doug White wrote:
> 
> >On Thu, 1 Jan 1998, Joe "Marcus" Clarke wrote:
> >
> >> I just installed 2.2.5-RELEASE from scratch, and things went flawlessly.
> >> I did it via ftp using a modem...not bad guys!  Anyway, after a lot of
> >> configuring and tweaking, I finally needed to run the addgroup command.
> >> Much to my surprise, it didn't work.  Turns out, /usr/bin/tclsh didn't
> >> exist.  I KNOW I didn't delete it.  NEVER touch anything in /usr/bin.
> >
> >That's confirmed; the 2.2.5 bin distribution doesn't have tclsh, but the
> >2.2.2 one does. I'll submit a bug report.
> 
> I submitted this as misc/4938 on 11/04/97; it is still open.
> 
> GReg
> -- 
> Gregory S. Sutter                       "How do I read this file?"
> mailto:gsutter@pobox.com                "You uudecode it."
> http://www.pobox.com/~gsutter/          "I I I decode it?"
> 


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What settings do I need to change to be able to see Spanish
characters (ie spanish n and letters with accents).

I tried changing the "system console" to ISO88591 and I could see the
characters in the command line by holding down my ALT key and pressin
their ASCII values, but then /stand/sysinstall's borders got changed
to funny characters.

I also couldn't figure out how to set Netscape to see those
characters.



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What settings do I need to change to be able to see Spanish
characters (ie spanish n and letters with accents).

I tried changing the "system console" to ISO88591 and I could see the
characters in the command line by holding down my ALT key and pressin
their ASCII values, but then /stand/sysinstall's borders got changed
to funny characters.

I also couldn't figure out how to set Netscape to see those
characters.



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What settings do I need to change to be able to see Spanish
characters (ie spanish n and letters with accents).

I tried changing the "system console" to ISO88591 and I could see the
characters in the command line by holding down my ALT key and pressin
their ASCII values, but then /stand/sysinstall's borders got changed
to funny characters.

I also couldn't figure out how to set Netscape to see those
characters.



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James Higgins wrote:

> It does not detect a drive while installing or if I compile a kernel
> with the following line in the configuration.
> 
> controller matcd0 at isa ? port 0x630 bio

	Ok, silly question, but have you ever tried this without changing the
settings? I had one of these drives and never had to do anything to it
to get it to work. Try the setting in LINT and see what that does for
you.

Doug

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Dear Sir
I am a FreeBSD 2.2.1 user.
I just unpacked the netscape file:
"navigator-v404-export.x86-unknown-freebsd.tar.gz" 
in the directory /usr/local/netscape .
But when I  typed the executable files "ns-install" or
"netscape" to install netscape, I got "command not found".
What should I do to install netscape.
Please help me
Thank you very much

Gordon


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Try prefixing "./" before the filename.

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On Thu, 1 Jan 1998, Studded wrote:

> James Higgins wrote:
> 
> > It does not detect a drive while installing or if I compile a kernel
> > with the following line in the configuration.
> > 
> > controller matcd0 at isa ? port 0x630 bio
> 
> 	Ok, silly question, but have you ever tried this without changing the
> settings? I had one of these drives and never had to do anything to it
> to get it to work. Try the setting in LINT and see what that does for
> you.

Yep.   The GENERIC kernel did nothing on the default 0x230 setting and
gave the same behavior I am experiencing now when I used 0x630, activity
but not actually "detecting" it.

I kinda wish it was that simple.. :)

James



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---Geoffrey Robinson <grobin@accessv.com> wrote:
>
> I added the path /usr/apache/man to MANPATH in my .login file but man

Make sure it made it into the path when you are running it.

> still doesn't have any apache data. I also tried man while my current
> directory was /usr/apache/man but it didn't work either. I'm afraid I

If the preiod (.) is not in the man path it will not look in the
current directory.

> know very little about how the man system works.
> 
> -Geoff
> 
> Rudy Gireyev wrote:
> > 
> > 1. You can either cd to the directory and do man from there.
> > 2. Include the apache man directory in your man PATH.
> >    See man man for exact indtruction
> > Rudy
> > 
> > ---Geoffrey Robinson <grobin@accessv.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Greetings,
> > > I just installed the apache-current port into the directory
> > /usr/apache/
> > > and discovered that all though there are man files in the Apache
> > > directory I can't access them through man. Has something gone
wrong
> > > during the install or do I need to add them to man myself somehow?
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > > --
> > > Geoffrey Robinson
> > > grobin@accessv.com
> > > Oakville, Ontario, Canada.
> > >
> > 
> > _________________________________________________________
> > DO YOU YAHOO!?
> > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
> 

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I had this same problem.  I couldn't find the reply from XI so I searched
the archives (in -current).  For XIGv3.1 here's their solution (BTW, I
would ignore the recomendation to rm font.alias):

Hello Burton (and FreeBSD-current readers),

The problem you are seeing is due to XF86 shipping their fonts in
gzipped format.  The X server does not know how to uncompress them.
This is not of course something that we could know, since v3.1 shipped
well before the XF86 release.  And it is not something seen when
running with AcceleratedX's CDE product, since we ship our own X libs
and fonts with this.

The solution:

unix-prompt> cd /path/to/fonts
unix-prompt> rm fonts.dir fonts.alias fonts.scale 
(note:  not all files are necessarily present in each dir)
unix-prompt> gzip -d *
unix-prompt> compress *
unix-prompt> mkfontdir

Repeat for each font directory you are going to use - these are listed
in the /etc/Xaccel.ini file...

NOTE:  This was dated around Jun 1997.

Hope this helps.

- burton -

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On Thu, 1 Jan 1998, Strobel wrote:

> Date: Thu, 1 Jan 1998 19:27:23 -0500
> From: Strobel <100730.3706@compuserve.com>
> To: FreeBSD <questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
> Subject: X-Server under FreeBSD2.2.5
> 
> Hi,
> i want to run the FreeBSD 2.2.5 System, but there is a problem with the
> Accelerated X-Server  V2.1 i am using. The raw installation works fine, but
> when i start the X-Server in test mode with:
> /usr/X11R6/bin/Xaccel
> i got the following error message:
> 
> PCI (#1/1, 8000 000c)
> Matrox,16: 2064,TVP3026 (8192k, @e2000000, [0,000 - 220,000Mhz])
> failed to set default font path 'here comes the default font path ....'
> Fatal server error:
> could not open default font 'fixed'
> 
> On my old FreeBSD 2.1.5 everthing work fine. Can somebody help me with this
> problem?
> By the way, the same error occurs under FreeBSD 3.0 Snapshot.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Andreas
> 


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Jose M. Alcaide wrote:
> 
> If compiled on FreeBSD, the call to setlocale() pass LC_ALL as
> the first argument. I have tested this, and setlocale(LC_ALL,"")
> works with most locales, but fails with a few ones:
> 
> ascii
> es_ES.ISO_8859-1
> fi_FI.ISO_8859-1
> ja_JP.EUC         [also fails with setlocale(LC_CTYPE, "")]
> ja_JP.SJIS        [also fails with setlocale(LC_CTYPE, "")]
> ko_KR.EUC         [also fails with setlocale(LC_CTYPE, "")]
> lt_LN.ASCII
> lt_LN.ISO_8859-1
> lt_LN.ISO_8859-2
> nl_BE.ISO_8859-1
> sv_SE.ISO_8859-1
> us-ascii
> 
> However, setlocale(LC_CTYPE, "") [_not_ LC_ALL] works fine with these
> locales except the three noted.

The vi problem is definitely solved. Indeed, the setlocale(LC_ALL,"")
call in /usr/src/contrib/nvi/common/key.c fails because some
locales are not fully described:

Wolfgang Helbig wrote:
> 
> That's because the file LC_TIME is missing in the directory
> /usr/share/locale/es_ES.ISO_8859-1.  If called with "LC_ALL",
> setlocale(3) returns with an error ("No such file or directory")
> without trying to load LC_CTYPE.
> 
> So the fix is to provide a spanish LC_TIME file.  You find sources
> for other LC_TIME files in /usr/src/share/timedef/data.  To build a
> LC_TIME file from it's source, you only have to delete the comment
> lines.

This solution can be also applied to the other locales, such
as sv_SE.ISO_8859-1. I have created the LC_TIME file for
the spanish locale, and everything works fine now. Thanks Wolfgang!

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I use the kernel IP firewall and use the "log" directive to alert me
to possibly nefarious network traffic.  However, I would like to channel
these messages through the syslog facility.  I added some code to the
kernel ip firewall to (apparently) log messages via the syslog() 
interface.  This is an example of what I added to:
FreeBSD 2.2.5-STABLE #0: Thu Jan  1 20:22:27 EST 1998
 
src/sys/netinet/ip_fw.c : ipfw_report(yutta, yutta..) 

...
openlog("ipfw",LOG_NDELAY,LOG_LOCAL7);
...

/* Print command name */
+       sprintf(buf,"ipfw: %d ", f ? f->fw_number : -1); 
-       printf("ipfw: %d ", f ? f->fw_number : -1);
        if (!f) 
+                sprintf(buf,"Refuse"); 
-                printf("Refuse");
        else
                switch (f->fw_flg & IP_FW_F_COMMAND) {
                case IP_FW_F_DENY: 
+                       sprintf(buf,"Deny"); 
-                       printf("Deny");
                        break;
....

syslog(LOG_INFO,buf);


Basically, removing all the kernel printf()'s, and replacing them with a
formatted print to a character string "buf".  Then, at the end, when all
those messages have concatenated appropriately into the line that would
normally get dumped on the console (or whathaveyou), I call syslog() and
send it to the syslog daemon.  However, when I attempt to compile my new
kernel, I get a message at the end, during the final link:

...
loading kernel 

ip_fw.o: Undefined symbol `_openlog' referenced from text
segment ip_fw.o: Undefined symbol `_syslog' referenced from text segment

*** Error code 1
                                                                                
Stop.

The only thing I am sure about is that I should leave kernel programming
to people who do it best.. namely, not myself!  In any case, if you have
any insight into what I am trying to do, and can suggest a solution, I
would LOVE to hear from you.

								-d
 


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Happy new year dear colleague,

I would like to know if this type of network card "3com 3c589d" is 
supported by freebsd?

Best regards,

Gino RANAIVOARISOA
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Hi there!

I have heard that Wp70 is running fine one FreeBSD with Linux Emulation.
Where can I get a (demo) copy of this package, and what are the
limitations?

I have been using StarOffice for a while, but staying awake is my biggist
problem! (It's very slow.......you know!)

Greets,

Robin Huiser
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Is there any way to get version 2.x of radiusd that works with both MD5
and DES passwords? Is source available for version 2? I can't seem to
locate it...




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On Fri, 2 Jan 1998, Robin Huiser wrote:

> Hi there!
> 
> I have heard that Wp70 is running fine one FreeBSD with Linux Emulation.
> Where can I get a (demo) copy of this package, and what are the
> limitations?

The software works for 30 days. You may only use it 15 days.

Info is available from http://www.sdcorp.com/

WP7 works, but it has a securety hole.

-bieker


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Dear Sir/Madam,

I have heard that FreeBSD can replace Ultrix v4.2 or v4.3 operating system
on a Digital Equipment Corp DECStation 5000/200.  Is this true ?

Thankyou for your time,


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Studded wrote:
> 
> Geoffrey Robinson wrote:
> >
> > I added the path /usr/apache/man to MANPATH in my .login file but man
> > still doesn't have any apache data. I also tried man while my current
> > directory was /usr/apache/man but it didn't work either. I'm afraid I
> > know very little about how the man system works.
> 
>         With all due respect, you were already offered the solution that will
> save you the most grief, namely "use the port." You should back up any
> configuration files that you have already worked on, delete every trace
> of the apache that you installed and install it again from the ports
> collection.
> 
>         One excellent example of why the ports collection is a good idea is
> that a patch for a recently uncovered security flaw in apache was
> applied the same day it was made available. You have a whole team of
> people looking out for you that are trying to make your life easier,
> take advantage of that. :)
> 

It is the apache-current port but I made it with the variable
PREFIX=/etc/apache. I did this after removing a previous install of
apache-current from /usr/local for organization and to isolate other
program files so I know what belongs to Apache. I'm not sure but I think
the Apache man files where not accessible when Apache 1.3a1 was
installed in /usr/local either. Before that I had Apache 1.2.4 installed
in /usr/local but I never used man to find anything for it so I don't
know if it worked originally.  I each case I used pkg_delete to
uninstall the port but I recall having to manually remove Apache 1.3a1
form /use/local anyway. Maybe I left something behind.

-Geoff

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Rudy Gireyev wrote:
> 
> ---Geoffrey Robinson <grobin@accessv.com> wrote:
> >
> > I added the path /usr/apache/man to MANPATH in my .login file but man
> 
> Make sure it made it into the path when you are running it.

How?

> 
> > still doesn't have any apache data. I also tried man while my current
> > directory was /usr/apache/man but it didn't work either. I'm afraid I
> 
> If the preiod (.) is not in the man path it will not look in the
> current directory.

I added './' to MANPATH but no luck. I was going to copy the Apache man
pages into /usr/local/man or make a symbolic link but the Apache pages
are buried in some large directory tree in /usr/apache/man that has the
same structure as the /usr/local/man tree so I can't just copy them
over. Any suggestions? 

<snip>

-Geoff

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> 
> I think your `no reply' should be taken as a `no one has convinced
> Informix to work under FreeBSD.'  
> 
> Informix would probably have to be ported.  Oracle, on the other hand, can
> be tricked to run under the SCO emulator, if you have a SCO box available
> to copy the libs off of.  Instructions are in the mail archies at
> http://www.freebsd.org. 
> 
> These are both commercial apps; convincing them to do a port to FreeBSD
> usually takes some effort.  
> 

I've lost the original question, but I'd like to make you know what's 
my experience with Informix on FreeBSD.
I'm currently running FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE. AFAIK, Informix SQL, 
R4GL and Standard Engine version 4.00 run fine with this release. 
Well, there is what I consider an "aesthetical" nuisance": when the 
Standard Engine is shutting down, it dies with a signal 10. But, 
with the exception of this minor "misfeature", and always according 
to my own experience, it does work. Note that with FreeBSD 
2.1.0-RELEASE, Informix 4.00 didn't work, but I think that the iBCS2 
support has been greatly enhanced after that release.

On the other hand, version 4.10 of the Standard Engine dies miserably 
with a signal 10, as soon as it does "open database". I can't tell 
about any other product or later versions of Informix.

Jesus
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Set the TERM variable to `cons25l1' in your ~/.profile
or in /etc/ttys.

"Francisco Reyes" <reyesf@super.zippo.com> writes:
> What settings do I need to change to be able to see Spanish
> characters (ie spanish n and letters with accents).
> 
> I tried changing the "system console" to ISO88591 and I could see the
> characters in the command line by holding down my ALT key and pressin
> their ASCII values, but then /stand/sysinstall's borders got changed
> to funny characters.
> 
> I also couldn't figure out how to set Netscape to see those
> characters.


-- 
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Hi,

I'm wanting to set up an low-cost internet (mail-only at this stage)
node for various "bush-communities" here in the centre of Australia.

It seems that FreeBSD is the way to go.

However, the concept that I have is similar to Netmail and BBS nodes
that toss and scan for mail.

I want the communities to be able to dial into this node to either
collect and/or receive email. The node will then be scheduled to dial
into a live internet node (say twice a day) and exchange my clients
email.

This way I don't have to pay for expensive live internet connections in
an environment where there is little traffic and low line speed
available (as low as 1200 baud in some circumstances).

Your thoughts please. Is this possible with FreeBSD?

Thanks in advance.

Paul Tero
IT Officer
ATSIC, Alice Springs
Australia.

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Can KDE http://www.kde.org/ run under FreeBSD ?


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On Fri, 2 Jan 1998, Raven wrote:

> Dear Sir/Madam,
> 
> I have heard that FreeBSD can replace Ultrix v4.2 or v4.3 operating system
> on a Digital Equipment Corp DECStation 5000/200.  Is this true ?

No. FreeBSD only runs on PCs based on the Intel architecture. However,
NetBSD has a port to the DECStations (see http://www.netbsd.org). OpenBSD
may also have such a port, though I'm not sure (see
http://www.openbsd.org).

> 
> Thankyou for your time,
> 
> 
> Steve Hyland.
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>       RAVENSGATE PTY LTD          Perth - Western Australia.
>                                   raven@omen.com.au
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>    /##//##/*{ \/ }*\##\\##\       Open here I flung the shutter, when,
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> 
Nadav


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Hi.
    I have a site at http://www.webspan.net/~vincent/ and I was
wondering how I can use Free BSD and in what ways that would help me on
my site. For the 2nd time I have read your page to try and see how I can
use it but for some reason am not clicking it. Please help. I checked
out most of the examples of pages that are of satisfied Free BSD users.


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> Wolfgang Helbig wrote:
> > 
> > That's because the file LC_TIME is missing in the directory
> > /usr/share/locale/es_ES.ISO_8859-1.  If called with "LC_ALL",
> > setlocale(3) returns with an error ("No such file or directory")
> > without trying to load LC_CTYPE.
> > 
> > So the fix is to provide a spanish LC_TIME file.  You find sources
> > for other LC_TIME files in /usr/src/share/timedef/data.  To build a
> > LC_TIME file from it's source, you only have to delete the comment
> > lines.
> 
> This solution can be also applied to the other locales, such
> as sv_SE.ISO_8859-1. I have created the LC_TIME file for
> the spanish locale, and everything works fine now. Thanks Wolfgang!

You're welcome!

In the meantime I checked in your file into the -current source
tree, but didn't close the problem yet, because other LC_TIME files
are still missing. (See also problem conf/5409)

So I ask people from those countries to send me LC_TIME files (in
source form, i. e. with the comment lines like in
/usr/src/share/timedef/data/*.src).  You can test your files by
deleting the commentlines, installing it in the locale directory
(e. g. /usr/share/locale/es_ES...) setting the LANG environment
variable accordingly and running cal(1).

The LC_TIME files are missing for these locales:

fi_FI.ISO_8859-1
lt_LN.ASCII
lt_LN.ISO_8859-1
lt_LN.ISO_8859-2
nl_BE.ISO_8859-1
nl_NL.ISO_8859-1
sv_SE.ISO_8859-1

I do not know, what language/country lt/LN belongs to.  The others
are Finland, Belgium, Netherlands and Sveden. (at least that's what
I learned from /usr/share/misc/iso3166.)

Thanks again for your file, Jose
and thanks in advance for the others :-)

Wolfgang

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On Fri, 2 Jan 1998, Gordon Wang wrote:

> Dear Sir
> I am a FreeBSD 2.2.1 user.
> I just unpacked the netscape file:
> "navigator-v404-export.x86-unknown-freebsd.tar.gz" 
> in the directory /usr/local/netscape .
> But when I  typed the executable files "ns-install" or
> "netscape" to install netscape, I got "command not found".

That's because the directory is not in your path. Use the full path name,
or if you're in the directory containing those files, simply say
./ns-install

> What should I do to install netscape.

Probably be better off installing the port. See the handbook section on
ports for instructions on installing them.

> Please help me
> Thank you very much
> 
> Gordon
> 
> 
Nadav


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Just curious what this means in syslog:

Jan  2 00:14:35 foobar su: login_getclass: unknown class 'C70609A' 

This is from an older 2.2-STABLE (early July build)


Thanks,

-David Langford
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TERO Paul wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm wanting to set up an low-cost internet (mail-only at this stage)
> node for various "bush-communities" here in the centre of Australia.
>
> It seems that FreeBSD is the way to go.
>
> However, the concept that I have is similar to Netmail and BBS nodes
> that toss and scan for mail.
>
> I want the communities to be able to dial into this node to either
> collect and/or receive email. The node will then be scheduled to dial
> into a live internet node (say twice a day) and exchange my clients
> email.
>
> This way I don't have to pay for expensive live internet connections in
> an environment where there is little traffic and low line speed
> available (as low as 1200 baud in some circumstances).
>
> Your thoughts please. Is this possible with FreeBSD?
>

Yes,  via uucp.type (man uucp / info uucp) for documentation.

You must setup uucp and add uucp mailer to you sendmail config.

> Thanks in advance.
>
> Paul Tero
> IT Officer
> ATSIC, Alice Springs
> Australia.




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I have a need for solid automated backups on my companies webserver,
so far I've tried both an HP DAT drive and Seagate DAT.  The HP
didn't live to long, and the Seagates performance has been
laughable at best.  I've only gotten a successful backup about 10% of
the time.  I need a system that can backup about 5 gigs of data daily.

Here are the tails my last two logged attempts..

   DUMP: 89.11% done, finished in 0:09
   DUMP: write error 1964580 blocks into volume 1
   DUMP: fopen on /dev/tty fails: Device not configured
   DUMP: The ENTIRE dump is aborted.

   DUMP: estimated 2117660 tape blocks.
   DUMP: write error 20 blocks into volume 1
   DUMP: fopen on /dev/tty fails: Device not configured
   DUMP: The ENTIRE dump is aborted.

Can anyone offer any suggestions?

Jason Hudgins



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I'm interested in using the UNIX 'ls' command on a UNIX-formatted tape
drive mounted on a Texas Instruments C40 digital signal processing
chip.  To do this, I need the C code for the 'ls' function.  Do you make
any or your source code available?  If not, do you know anywhere that I
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method by which UNIX stores file information?  I know that this not what
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I've been using FreeBSD and Xfree86 with the Mach32 X server for
several years without problem.  Recently I upgraded from FreeBSD
2.1.6 to 2.2.5 with Xfree 3.3.1 and I'm now having a minor problem
that's driving me crazy.  The problem is that when I exit X (or
switch to a text mode virtual console) my monitor loses horizontal
sync.  Using vidcontrol to reset the console mode does not restore
sync. The only thing that will get the monitor to sync again is a
complete system restart.  The generic VGA256 server does not have
this problem. 

I've recompiled the Mach32 server from sources and it does exactly
the same thing.  I've looked at Mach32 server deltas from 3.1.1 to
3.3.1 and nothing jumped out at me.  Looks like the biggest changes
were the addition of support for 24 bpp (I'm using 8) and support
for the XDGA extension.  I built a server with XDGA disabled and
that didn't help.  The only other thing I saw was some changes for
an AST version of the Mach32, I've verified that the AST switch was
not set.

I don't believe this is a kernel problem since the generic VGA
server works correctly.  Does anyone have any suggestions on how to
fix this ?  I'm also open to suggestions as to a better forum for
this questions since I don't think it's a FreeBSD problem.  (I've
posted to comp.windows.x.i386 but didn't get many responses.)

Skip Hansen



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On Fri, Jan 02, 1998 at 05:47:02AM -1000, David Langford wrote:
> 
> Just curious what this means in syslog:
> 
> Jan  2 00:14:35 foobar su: login_getclass: unknown class 'C70609A' 
> 
> This is from an older 2.2-STABLE (early July build)
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> -David Langford
>  langfod@dihelix.com

I believe it indicates that the login class, `C70609A' isn't in the
login capability database. If the ASCII source, `/etc/login.conf'
doesn't exist and you installed the sources, as root try

   cp /usr/src/etc/login.conf /etc/login.conf
   /usr/bin/cap_mk_db /etc/login.conf

If `/etc/login.cong' exists, as root try rebuilding the indexes with

   /usr/bin/cap_mk_db /etc/login.conf

which should create `/etc/login.conf.db'. See login.conf(5).
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On Fri, 2 Jan 1998, Christophe Prevotaux wrote:

> Can KDE http://www.kde.org/ run under FreeBSD ?

Yes, just use the port.

(it needs /usr/bin/moc -- should be /usr/X11r6/bin/moc btw.)

-bieker


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I am setting up a FreeBSD machine (2.2.5R) using a 3C509 ethernet card.  If
I connect the machine to a network which has TCP/IP, IPX/SPX and NetBEUI
traffic running on it (and in addition Win95 machines list 3 Com DMI Agent
and IPX-32 bit protocol for netware Client 32) the FreeBSD can neither see
any other machines nor be seen by any other machines.  It does complain of
getting an unknown packet on an unexpected port from the Novell server.  If
the same machine is connected to a different (sub) network that is running
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machines on the Novell network.

Is there something else that must be configured for FreeBSD to run on a
Novell lan?


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Christophe Prevotaux <nighty@hexanet.fr> writes:
> Can KDE http://www.kde.org/ run under FreeBSD ?

Well, it's in the FreeBSD ports collection, so I assume that it can
indeed run under FreeBSD.

-Dave

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On 02-Jan-98 Hans Petter Bieker wrote:
>On Fri, 2 Jan 1998, Christophe Prevotaux wrote:
>
>> Can KDE http://www.kde.org/ run under FreeBSD ?
>
>Yes, just use the port.
>
>(it needs /usr/bin/moc -- should be /usr/X11r6/bin/moc btw.)
>
>-bieker

Yes but the port is not up to date the BETA1 of kdenetworks is now BETA2

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how do I install a single man page?
thanx
jimmy

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Your question tickled my curiosity...

> From: David Kott <dakott@alpha.delta.edu>
> I use the kernel IP firewall and use the "log" directive to alert me
> to possibly nefarious network traffic.  However, I would like to channel
> these messages through the syslog facility.  I added some code to the
> kernel ip firewall to (apparently) log messages via the syslog() 
> interface.  This is an example of what I added to:

It sounds to me like you already know most of this... but one thing
you you should do is dig a little deeper and follow your inferences
one more step.

It's been a long time since I hacked the kernel, but a good rule
of thumb is to copy that which is already done.  In this case, you
need to find out how the kernel logs other messages to syslog.
The first log message that came to my mind was the ``pid ? uid ?
exited on signal ?'' message.  A quick fgrep in /sys/kern/*.c for
``core'' got me:

  kern_sig.c:coredump(p)

which showed me:

  log(LOG_INFO, "pid %d: %s: uid %d: exited on signal %d\n",
	  p->p_pid, p->p_comm, p->p_ucred->cr_uid, signum);

Following the calls to log:
  log() [subr_prf.c] -> logpri() [subr_prf.c]
  log() -> kprintf(..TOLOG..) [subr_prf.c]
  log() -> logwakeup() [subr_log.c] 

Hmmm... there does not seem to be anything setting the ``program name''
for the kernel syslog messages.

Next, looking in /usr/src/usr.sbin/syslogd/syslogd.c, in function printsys()
there is:

  (void)strcpy(line, getbootfile());
  (void)strcat(line, ": ");

So, it looks to me that the ``program name'' for kernel messages
comes from syslogd which gets it from getbootfile().

I now must mention that this is where I stopped.  I can't be sure without
actually doing some coding and testing, but it sure looks like:

  1.  The syslog is effectively already "open" for the kernel
      and there is no need for an openlog() call.  Another
      grep thru *all* kernel source confirmed that there is no
      ``openlog'' function -- of course the kernel link already
      said this  ;-)
  2.  The call to log() writes a syslog message -- there is no
      syslog() function.  Again, the kernel link confirms this.
  3.  Since syslogd is setting the ``program name'' for kernel
      messages, there is no way for the kernel to log anything
      under another name (such as "ipfw")

Hope this gets you a little further.  Keep the list informed of your
progress.  Good luck.

Dave Bodenstab
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On Fri, 2 Jan 1998, Gordon Wang wrote:

> Dear Sir
> I am a FreeBSD 2.2.1 user.
> I just unpacked the netscape file:
> "navigator-v404-export.x86-unknown-freebsd.tar.gz" 
> in the directory /usr/local/netscape .
> But when I  typed the executable files "ns-install" or
> "netscape" to install netscape, I got "command not found".
> What should I do to install netscape.

I'd suggest using the FreeBSD netscape port, which will handle the install
for you.  It's in the www/netscape4 directory.

> Please help me
> Thank you very much
> 
> Gordon
> 
> 
> 

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On Fri, 2 Jan 1998, Gordon Wang wrote:

> Dear Sir
> I am a FreeBSD 2.2.1 user.
> I just unpacked the netscape file:
> "navigator-v404-export.x86-unknown-freebsd.tar.gz" 
> in the directory /usr/local/netscape .
> But when I  typed the executable files "ns-install" or
> "netscape" to install netscape, I got "command not found".
> What should I do to install netscape.
> Please help me
> Thank you very much

Be sure you are typing a filename that is executable.  Use the syntax
./filename to start the program. The "./" makes it run from your pwd.


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On Sat, 3 Jan 1998, TERO Paul wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I'm wanting to set up an low-cost internet (mail-only at this stage)
> node for various "bush-communities" here in the centre of Australia.
> 
> It seems that FreeBSD is the way to go.
> 
> However, the concept that I have is similar to Netmail and BBS nodes
> that toss and scan for mail.
> 
> I want the communities to be able to dial into this node to either
> collect and/or receive email. The node will then be scheduled to dial
> into a live internet node (say twice a day) and exchange my clients
> email.
> 
> This way I don't have to pay for expensive live internet connections in
> an environment where there is little traffic and low line speed
> available (as low as 1200 baud in some circumstances).
> 
> Your thoughts please. Is this possible with FreeBSD?

It sounds like you want to set up a UUCP link and yes BSD should be able
to do this.  Study up on UUCP mail exchange.

Take Care,

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James D. Fowler wrote:

> how do I install a single man page?
> thanx
> jimmy

install  -g bin -o bin -m 444 FILE.1.gz /usr/local/man/man1


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Hello, 

I am having a problem with a webserver running freebsd 2.2.2 with apache. The problem is when you request a webpage from the internet the graphics are not loading and the page does not finish loading. The server has been fine for months. The pages come up fine when I request them from a computer on our ethernet of dial into one of our POPS however if I dial in from an outside source (webspan or AOL for example) I run into this problem.

Here are some examples

http://www.herbalpac.com
http://www.harleyofedison.com
http://www.somersetsavings.com

Any advice will be greatly appreciated,

Thanks,

Dave Turner




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make sure you have ./ns-install


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On Fri, 2 Jan 1998, Gordon Wang wrote:

> Dear Sir
> I am a FreeBSD 2.2.1 user.
> I just unpacked the netscape file:
> "navigator-v404-export.x86-unknown-freebsd.tar.gz" 
> in the directory /usr/local/netscape .
> But when I  typed the executable files "ns-install" or
> "netscape" to install netscape, I got "command not found".
> What should I do to install netscape.
> Please help me
> Thank you very much
> 
> Gordon
> 
> 


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On Fri, 2 Jan 1998, Christophe Prevotaux wrote:

> Can KDE http://www.kde.org/ run under FreeBSD ?

Yes, the KDE stuff is pretty well represented by various KDE ports.

You know about FreeBSD ports, right?  /usr/ports/x11/kde*

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> The LC_TIME files are missing for these locales:
> 
> fi_FI.ISO_8859-1
> lt_LN.ASCII        (These are LATIN, a fallback for Latin1, as pointed
> lt_LN.ISO_8859-1    by Andrey Chernov)
> lt_LN.ISO_8859-2
> nl_BE.ISO_8859-1
> nl_NL.ISO_8859-1
> sv_SE.ISO_8859-1 (sent to me by Peter Olsson, thank you!)
> 
> I do not know, what language/country lt/LN belongs to.  The others
> are Finland, Belgium, Netherlands and Sveden. (at least that's what
> I learned from /usr/share/misc/iso3166.)

So only Finland, Belgium and the Netherlands are still w/o LC_TIME
files. (I think Latin doesn't need one)

> and thanks in advance for the others :-)
> 
> Wolfgang
> 


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Hi

I couldn't find a page in the handbook as a guide while setting up NIS: is
there any documentation/howto for that?

And: how do I set up a master.passwd, because when exchanging the file
with other hosts it might be difficult I think: in my master.passwd e.g.
are long passwords (MD5 passwords) and when using those on a Linux box as 
NIS client or another FreeBSD host as NIS client without MD5 it might be
difficult: can I also put in non-md5's in there (and how to) or isn't this
such a big problem as I expect it to be...?! (can it safely be combined
with erm... crypt/des passwords? (the same huh) (how do I post-install
that eventually)

Thank you!
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P.S. I run FreeBSD 2.2.1


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On Fri, 2 Jan 1998, Michael Obara wrote:

> I'm interested in using the UNIX 'ls' command on a UNIX-formatted tape
> drive mounted on a Texas Instruments C40 digital signal processing
> chip.  To do this, I need the C code for the 'ls' function.  Do you make
> any or your source code available?  If not, do you know anywhere that I
> might be able to find code which will be able to list all files in a
> UNIX directory?  If not, do you know where I can get info about the
> method by which UNIX stores file information?  I know that this not what
> you do, but it is for a project and I am stuck.

This sounds a little confusing.  I first read that as meaning using the
unix mount command, but that mounts a volume on a directory mount point of
another mounted volume, and the DSP ship you're talking about isn't even
an operating system, much less a logical volume.  Must be wrong there.

OK, did you mean mount as in physical mounting?  That chip isn't that
large... Nah, you couldn't have meant that!

Well, I'll answer what does make sense.  You asked about the source code
... yeah the source code for all of FreeBSD is freely and openly
available, on any of the many FreeBSD mirrors of wcarchive.cdrom.com.  On
wcarchive, you'd look into /pub/FreeBSD.  I get the idea that the code
there isn't going to do what you think it will, but maybe that's a start.
I don't understand the rest of it well enough, I guess.

> 
> Thank you,
> Michael Obara
> 
> 

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Hi

I currently run FreeBSD 2.2.1 on a mashine that's used as a multi-user
system and I'm planning to setup a new mashine that doesn't let users log
in but let it play web-server or mail-server or smth like that...
I'm planning to put FreeBSD 2.2.1 on that server, but is that a good idea?
I'm just doing it because I have that version on CD and I don't have newer
versions... (although I can buy them) - Is the new version really that
changed (security holes or in any other aspect (which? speed?) that I'd
immediately buy the new version?

So my main question: should I upgrade or not, or install a new version or
not, or even both? :-)
Are there many major bugs, and if so, can I find a list on the net of
security-holes in the version I'm currently using? (maybe I'm taking a big
risk because it's a multi-user system?!)

If I'd upgrade the multi-user system, can I do that without any
pain? What can I do to let it go nice and so on...?!

Thank you,
(On linux I never doubt upgrading because I know there are many security
holes, but is that too on FreeBSD...)
Paul

P.S. Or is it worth setting up for my home-system: is the awe 32 pnp
supported? (including midi-player and so on?) (in that case it would be
of interest ;-))


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Hi

Is there any program available under FreeBSD that does callback (because
of security), and gives you PPP access with IPX so I can access Novell
servers remotely?
Is any IPX routing possible? (Is it that good as under Linux or even
better or worse or didn't anyone ever test it?) (Don't need access to
Novell servers however I'd like to print under FreeBSD to a
novell-printer, but that's not needed now)

Thanks
Paul


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On Fri, 2 Jan 1998, James D. Fowler wrote:

> how do I install a single man page?

If you take a look at /etc/manpath.config, you'll see the list of
directories your system knows to search thru.  Pick one.  Underneath each
will be at least one, and possibly 2 sets of subdirectories.  One will
have the names man1, man2, etc, and this is where troff (mdoc) formatted
man pages go, in gzip compressed form.  The other set (which you might not
have) is the cat1, cat2, etc set, where preformatted (ready for display)
man pages go.  If you don't have the cat directories, your system can't
cache formatted man pages for redisplay.  This saves you some disk space,
but costs extra formatting time for man pages you access a lot.

/usr/share/man is the directory for the system man pages.  I would not
recommend adding locally generated man pages there, because when you
finally upgrade your installation, you're going to be reinstalling that
directory, and you'll have to separate out the system man pages from your
locally installed ones, so that the locally installed ones don't get wiped
out in the upgrade.

> thanx
> jimmy
> 
> 

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I'm having a routing problem with ppp, users can successfully
connect with ppp and access our other machines on the LAN ... But they
can't access the outside world.  Gateway is set to YES in rc.conf, and
enable proxy is in the ppp.conf file.   Shell users can access the outside
world without any problems.  It's only restricted to ppp users.

I would be greatful for any help.

Thank you,
Jason McKay.


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In article <Pine.BSF.3.96.980103202858.15683A-100000@barney.webace.com.au> you wrote:
> I'm having a routing problem with ppp, users can successfully
> connect with ppp and access our other machines on the LAN ... But they
> can't access the outside world.  Gateway is set to YES in rc.conf, and
> enable proxy is in the ppp.conf file.   Shell users can access the outside
> world without any problems.  It's only restricted to ppp users.

 Is telstra routing the addresses that you allocate to your ppp clients to
 you?  Are they on the same class C as yourself?  Could you elaborate
 on your network setup a little more?

 Ta.

 Peter

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Sorry,

No we are doing the routing, we have a C class address of 203.25.160.x ..
All our machines attached to our LAN are using addresses from that pool.
PPP clients are also given an address from our pool.

Thank you,
Jason McKay.

On Sat, 3 Jan 1998, Peter Childs wrote:

> In article <Pine.BSF.3.96.980103202858.15683A-100000@barney.webace.com.au> you wrote:
> > I'm having a routing problem with ppp, users can successfully
> > connect with ppp and access our other machines on the LAN ... But they
> > can't access the outside world.  Gateway is set to YES in rc.conf, and
> > enable proxy is in the ppp.conf file.   Shell users can access the outside
> > world without any problems.  It's only restricted to ppp users.
> 
>  Is telstra routing the addresses that you allocate to your ppp clients to
>  you?  Are they on the same class C as yourself?  Could you elaborate
>  on your network setup a little more?
> 
>  Ta.
> 
>  Peter
> 
> --
>  Peter Childs - finger pjchilds@al.imforei.apana.org.au for PGP public key
> 
>      We are FreeBSD, resistance is related to current and voltage...
> 
> 


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Rudy Gireyev wrote:
> 
> ---Geoffrey Robinson <grobin@accessv.com> wrote:
> >
> > Rudy Gireyev wrote:
> > >
> > > ---Geoffrey Robinson <grobin@accessv.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I added the path /usr/apache/man to MANPATH in my .login file
> but man
> > >
> > > Make sure it made it into the path when you are running it.
> >
> > How?
> 
> echo $MANPATH :-)

Okay, it's in the path.
Actually I think the problem may be that the Apache manual files just
aren't there. In /usr/apache/man I get the listing

cat1			cat9			man4
cat2			catl			man5
cat3			catn			man6
cat4			de_DE.ISO_8859-1	man7
cat5			ja_JP.EUC		man8
cat6			man1			man9
cat7			man2			manl
cat8			man3			mann

This is the same listing I get in /usr/local/man but when I do
   #ls -Rl /usr/apache/man >list 
and look at list in vi I discover that there are no files in the
/usr/apache/man tree, only a bunch of empty directories and
subdirectories. I looked in the apache build directories for the help
files but I couldn't find anything. Do you know where I can get them and
where to copy them to? Is it possible that they where accidentally left
out of the apache-current port?

- Geoff

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On Sat, 3 Jan 1998, Peter Childs wrote:

>  Is telstra routing the addresses that you allocate to your ppp clients to
>  you?  Are they on the same class C as yourself?  Could you elaborate
>  on your network setup a little more?

>From my knowledge of Jason's setup, he's using a router. We have initial
problems with out router, because our upstream provider wasn't routing IP
addresses for the modems.

Regards,

d.

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what is the make(1) command to build the release images (boot.flp,
fixit.flp, bin.aa, bin.ab, ..., etc)?

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On 3 January, 1998, at 08:39 (-0500)
Geoffrey Robinson <grobin@accessv.com> wrote:

> Okay, it's in the path.
> Actually I think the problem may be that the Apache manual files just
> aren't there. In /usr/apache/man I get the listing
>
> cat1                  cat9                    man4
> cat2                  catl                    man5
> cat3                  catn                    man6
> cat4                  de_DE.ISO_8859-1        man7
> cat5                  ja_JP.EUC               man8
> cat6                  man1                    man9
> cat7                  man2                    manl
> cat8                  man3                    mann
>
> This is the same listing I get in /usr/local/man but when I do
>    #ls -Rl /usr/apache/man >list
> and look at list in vi I discover that there are no files in the
> /usr/apache/man tree, only a bunch of empty directories and
> subdirectories. I looked in the apache build directories for the help
> files but I couldn't find anything. Do you know where I can get them and
> where to copy them to? Is it possible that they where accidentally left
> out of the apache-current port?

To my knowledge, there *are* no man pages for Apache, and never have been;
all the docs are HTML.  I have the full source distribution for Apache
1.3b2 (only one beta release behind the current one of 1.3b3).  There's not
a single man page in the distribution.

Furthermore, the prebuilt Apache FreeBSD packages don't install any docs
(HTML or otherwise)--at least, not the ones on my 2.2.5-RELEASE CD-ROM.
Likewise, the package list (PLIST) files for the ports on that CD-ROM don't
list any docs, and the Makefile doesn't install them.

I recommend that you extract one of the ports (say, `apache-current' or
`apache'), then `cd' to directory `work/apache*/htdocs/manual'.  In that
directory, you'll find the complete HTML documentation for
Apache--essentially the same docs that you find on the Apache home page,
`http://www.apache.org'.
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On Sat, Jan 03, 1998 at 09:47:03PM +0800, Jason McKay wrote:
> Sorry,
> 
> No we are doing the routing, we have a C class address of 203.25.160.x ..
> All our machines attached to our LAN are using addresses from that pool.
> PPP clients are also given an address from our pool.

Are you using packet filtering with user-mode ppp (dfilter)?
Are the ppp clients on the same subnet as the local users that work?
Does `arp -a' report the ppp client's permanent published proxy?
Does `sysctl net.inet.ip.forwarding' return `net.inet.ip.forwarding: 1'?
Is IP_FIREWALL enabled in your kernel?
Are you running routed?
What version (release date) of user-mode ppp are you running?
Are you sure the FreeBSD box isn't forwarding the packets? Perhaps
  a ppp client can run traceroute (or TRACERT) to your router to
  see whether the packets are forwarded. Can you `tcpdump' the
  ppp client during this activity?

How about publishing the following?

netstat -rn
arp -a
/etc/ppp/ppp.conf (with password stuff changed)
a simple network drawing (ppp client, FreeBSD box, and router)
  showing the IP addresses and netmasks

> 
> Thank you,
> Jason McKay.
> 
> On Sat, 3 Jan 1998, Peter Childs wrote:
> 
> > In article <Pine.BSF.3.96.980103202858.15683A-100000@barney.webace.com.au> you wrote:
> > > I'm having a routing problem with ppp, users can successfully
> > > connect with ppp and access our other machines on the LAN ... But they
> > > can't access the outside world.  Gateway is set to YES in rc.conf, and
> > > enable proxy is in the ppp.conf file.   Shell users can access the outside
> > > world without any problems.  It's only restricted to ppp users.
> > 
> >  Is telstra routing the addresses that you allocate to your ppp clients to
> >  you?  Are they on the same class C as yourself?  Could you elaborate
> >  on your network setup a little more?
> > 
> >  Ta.
> > 
> >  Peter
> > 
> > --
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> > 
> >      We are FreeBSD, resistance is related to current and voltage...
> > 
> > 

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     Will Free BSD work on a FAT32 system?  If not naturally can the
image program written for unix work for Free BSD as well?  Thank you for
any reply.     -N.S.


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> Is there something else that must be configured for FreeBSD to run on a
> Novell lan?
> 
Nothing except to make the Novell clients talk Ethernet-II frame type. I
set up E-II and 802.3 as the two frame types in Novell's STARTNET.BAT.
Novell's default in V4.1 is 802.2, but the novell-server-emulation
software (SoftNet) we use on the HPUX machines will only talk 802.3.
Works fine for me. If you want to share disks, load SAMBA on the FreeBSD
server. We use FreeBSD for all web-related servers, HPUX and NT for
workstations, and Win3.1 and 95 for PC clients.

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> I'm having a routing problem with ppp, users can successfully
> connect with ppp and access our other machines on the LAN ... But they
> can't access the outside world.  Gateway is set to YES in rc.conf, and
> enable proxy is in the ppp.conf file.   Shell users can access the outside
> world without any problems.  It's only restricted to ppp users.
> 
> I would be greatful for any help.

Are the users making your ppp server their default gateway ?  What 
does traceroute say ?

> Thank you,
> Jason McKay.
> 

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Hello Jason,

I'm in a similar situation. What happens for you is that the tape has
reached the end (my guess; I get write errors when I reach
end-of-tapes), and is trying to tell you this on the tty; "fopen on
/dev/tty" means that it cannot talk to a console, probably because
you're running it from cron, or detached the dump process from the tty.

AFAIK, you can't run dump from cron, at least not directly. (I'd like to
hear from you folks! How do you make automated dumps?) Dump needs user
interaction when an error or end-of-tape occurs, or it will get
suspended or fail. Hence, it must be started from a console. I guess one
could make a script that runs on the console and sleeps during the
day...? Or maybe let cron attach the dump command to a console (better,
but how,and is it possible?).

What does your dump command look like? If your tape can swallow no more
than 2GB, you've reached the end-of-tape. Using the B option, yuo can
tell dump about the tape lenght, and get "tape-end" instead of
"write-error". If you expect hardware compression, are you sure it is
switched on? Probably not?

Hope this helps
Palle


Jason Hudgins wrote:
> 
> I have a need for solid automated backups on my companies webserver,
> so far I've tried both an HP DAT drive and Seagate DAT.  The HP
> didn't live to long, and the Seagates performance has been
> laughable at best.  I've only gotten a successful backup about 10% of
> the time.  I need a system that can backup about 5 gigs of data daily.
> 
> Here are the tails my last two logged attempts..
> 
>    DUMP: 89.11% done, finished in 0:09
>    DUMP: write error 1964580 blocks into volume 1
>    DUMP: fopen on /dev/tty fails: Device not configured
>    DUMP: The ENTIRE dump is aborted.
> 
>    DUMP: estimated 2117660 tape blocks.
>    DUMP: write error 20 blocks into volume 1
>    DUMP: fopen on /dev/tty fails: Device not configured
>    DUMP: The ENTIRE dump is aborted.
> 
> Can anyone offer any suggestions?
> 
> Jason Hudgins

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On 02 Jan 1998 13:23:38 +0100, Wolfram Schneider wrote:

While trying to see why netscape is still not displaying spanish
characters I noticed all my locale directories are empty. Is this
normal? The directories are in /usr/share, /usr/share/local (and a
couple others I don't recall). If it is not normal how do I get the
local files? Tried /stand/sysinstall and did not see anything for
this purpose.

Also when Netscape starts it says "locale en_US.ISO_8859-1 not
supported by Xlib trying 'C'". Is this because the locale files are
missing?

>Set the TERM variable to `cons25l1' in your ~/.profile
>or in /etc/ttys.
>
>"Francisco Reyes" <reyesf@super.zippo.com> writes:
>> What settings do I need to change to be able to see Spanish
>> characters (ie spanish n and letters with accents).
>> 
>> I tried changing the "system console" to ISO88591




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I am running the experimental upsd port on several FreeBSD 2.2.5-STABLE
systems with APC Smart-UPS 1000s. Every 10 minutes /var/log/messages
receives entries similar to

Jan  3 11:17:38 emu upsd[231]: apc_tune: toggle wraparound
Jan  3 11:17:39 emu upsd[231]: apc_tune: toggle wraparound
Jan  3 11:17:39 emu upsd[231]: apc_tune: negative response:    NO
Jan  3 11:17:40 emu upsd[231]: apc_tune: toggle wraparound

The `apc_tune: negative response: NO' message also appears on the
console. I believe the frequency of these messages is due to the

every 600 {
    tune "high-transfer-point"          264
    tune "low-transfer-point"           196
    tune "line-alarm"                   "0"
    tune "line-sensitivity"             "L"
    tune "low-batteries-duration"       2
    tune "nominal-voltage"              220
    tune "shutdown-delay"               20
    tune "wakeup-batteries-capacity"    25
    tune "wakeup-delay"                 0
#   tune "batteries-replaced"           "01/01/77"
#   tune "label"                        "WildWind"
}

section in /etc/upsd.conf. 

My experiments with removal of line power indicate that the shutdown
process and line restoration work properly. For the time being, I 
have commented out these messages in apc.c.

What do these messages mean?
Do they indicate a problem that needs fixing for proper operation?
Are there other programs that work with the APC Smart-UPS?

-- 
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Norman C. Rice, Jr.

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On Sat, 3 Jan 1998, Duck Dogers wrote:

>      Will Free BSD work on a FAT32 system?  If not naturally can the
> image program written for unix work for Free BSD as well?  Thank you for
> any reply.     -N.S.

Understand that FreeBSD is an operating system, in a class of programs
like Windows NT or OS/2.  It does it's own formatting of partitions.  It
doesn't operate under some other OS ... as an example, does Windows 95
operate under OS/2?  No, they install separately, in their own
partitions, as does FreeBSD.

The formatting FreeBSD does on it's partitions, BTW, doesn't even remotely
resemble FAT32.

Maybe you were asking if FreeBSD can access data on your FAT32 partitions?
It has always been able to access the FAT16 partitions, but until very
recently, it couldn't access the FAT32 ones.  Some recent work in
FreeBSD-current has gotten some level of compatibility with FAT32
partitions (I don't know exactly how much) but that code is very new, and
certainly not available on any release version of FreeBSD yet.

I hope that answered your question ...

> 
> 
> 

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Isn't moc part of the Qt distribution that KDE requires?  When I installed Qt
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Francisco Reyes wrote:
> 
> On 02 Jan 1998 13:23:38 +0100, Wolfram Schneider wrote:
> 
> While trying to see why netscape is still not displaying spanish
> characters I noticed all my locale directories are empty. Is this
> normal? The directories are in /usr/share, /usr/share/local (and a


Not normal. Here's my /usr/share/locale


lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  bin   11 Nov 26 02:09 ascii@ -> lt_LN.ASCII
drwxr-xr-x  2 bin   bin  512 Nov 26 02:31 da_DK.ISO_8859-1/
drwxr-xr-x  2 bin   bin  512 Nov 26 02:31 de_AT.ISO_8859-1/
drwxr-xr-x  2 bin   bin  512 Nov 26 02:31 de_CH.ISO_8859-1/
drwxr-xr-x  2 bin   bin  512 Nov 26 02:31 de_DE.ISO_8859-1/
drwxr-xr-x  2 bin   bin  512 Nov 26 02:31 en_AU.ISO_8859-1/
drwxr-xr-x  2 bin   bin  512 Nov 26 02:31 en_CA.ISO_8859-1/
drwxr-xr-x  2 bin   bin  512 Nov 26 02:31 en_GB.ISO_8859-1/
drwxr-xr-x  2 bin   bin  512 Nov 26 02:31 en_US.ISO_8859-1/
drwxr-xr-x  2 bin   bin  512 Nov 26 02:31 es_ES.ISO_8859-1/
drwxr-xr-x  2 bin   bin  512 Nov 26 02:31 fi_FI.ISO_8859-1/
drwxr-xr-x  2 bin   bin  512 Nov 26 02:31 fr_BE.ISO_8859-1/
drwxr-xr-x  2 bin   bin  512 Nov 26 02:31 fr_CA.ISO_8859-1/
drwxr-xr-x  2 bin   bin  512 Nov 26 02:31 fr_CH.ISO_8859-1/
drwxr-xr-x  2 bin   bin  512 Nov 26 02:31 fr_FR.ISO_8859-1/
drwxr-xr-x  2 bin   bin  512 Nov 26 02:31 hr_HR.ISO_8859-2/
drwxr-xr-x  2 bin   bin  512 Nov 26 02:31 is_IS.ISO_8859-1/
drwxr-xr-x  2 bin   bin  512 Nov 26 02:31 it_CH.ISO_8859-1/
drwxr-xr-x  2 bin   bin  512 Nov 26 02:31 it_IT.ISO_8859-1/
drwxr-xr-x  2 bin   bin  512 Nov 26 02:31 ja_JP.EUC/
drwxr-xr-x  2 bin   bin  512 Nov 26 02:28 ja_JP.SJIS/
drwxr-xr-x  2 bin   bin  512 Nov 26 02:31 ko_KR.EUC/
drwxr-xr-x  2 bin   bin  512 Nov 26 02:31 lt_LN.ASCII/
drwxr-xr-x  2 bin   bin  512 Nov 26 02:31 lt_LN.ISO_8859-1/
drwxr-xr-x  2 bin   bin  512 Nov 26 02:31 lt_LN.ISO_8859-2/
drwxr-xr-x  2 bin   bin  512 Nov 26 02:31 nl_BE.ISO_8859-1/
drwxr-xr-x  2 bin   bin  512 Nov 26 02:31 nl_NL.ISO_8859-1/
drwxr-xr-x  2 bin   bin  512 Nov 26 02:31 no_NO.ISO_8859-1/
drwxr-xr-x  2 bin   bin  512 Nov 26 02:31 pt_PT.ISO_8859-1/
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  bin   11 Nov 26 02:09 ru_RU.CP866@ -> ru_SU.CP866
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  bin   12 Nov 26 02:09 ru_RU.KOI8-R@ -> ru_SU.KOI8-R
drwxr-xr-x  2 bin   bin  512 Nov 26 02:31 ru_SU.CP866/
drwxr-xr-x  2 bin   bin  512 Nov 26 02:31 ru_SU.KOI8-R/
drwxr-xr-x  2 bin   bin  512 Nov 26 02:31 sv_SE.ISO_8859-1/
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  bin   11 Nov 26 02:09 us-ascii@ -> lt_LN.ASCII

I do setenv LANG sv_SE.ISO_8859-1 and setenv MM_CHARSET ISO-8859-1
in /etc/csh.login. 
But you need to get the locale files. Not sure of the best way, but they
are probably on the CD, if you have one. 

/palle

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I have a Canon MultiPASS C2500 colour printer/fax/copier
anyone have any examples printcaps ..Or know where I can find
some?
thanks in advance

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From: Mark Turrin <mlt@linkzone.com>
To: Brian Somers <brian@awfulhak.org>
cc: Jason McKay <jasonm@barney.webace.com.au>, questions@FreeBSD.ORG
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On Sat, 3 Jan 1998, Brian Somers wrote:

> > I'm having a routing problem with ppp, users can successfully
> > connect with ppp and access our other machines on the LAN ... But they
> > can't access the outside world.  Gateway is set to YES in rc.conf, and
> > enable proxy is in the ppp.conf file.   Shell users can access the outside
> > world without any problems.  It's only restricted to ppp users.
> > 
> > I would be greatful for any help.

Be sure you have set the IP number for the gateway in the ppp users
software.  


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> > Now that I have IP aliasing (ppp -alias option) working under
> > FreeBSD, I would like to connect a Win95 box to a FreeBSD box
> > using a laplink cable. This idea prompts a couple of questions:
> > (1) Does anybody know whether Win95 supports TCP/IP over the
> > parallel port? If so, how is it done?
> Unless someone writes a PLIP driver for WIn95, I doubt it's Direct cable
> Connection stuff will work.

I've actually managed this from a Win95 box running Winsock (32-bit) to
a Linux box (running pppd) and it worked fine. I presume the same
thing would work with BSD.

L8rz

KrOnUs <kronus@null.net>



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I am trying with very little success to install an older 
version of WinWord 2.0c on my FreeBSD machine using wine.

I mount the first floppy in drive A (/dev/fd0.1440) and
try to run setup and it just core dumps all over the place.

Does this need to be installed independent of FBSD and then
mount the drive/directory into the system?  Any/all help in
this matter would be greatly appreciated.

One more thing, I am running the Win95 window manager (BTW,
those who did this work - many "Atta-boys"!!) and would like
to change the background color on the desktop and have yet
to find the file with those settings ... anyone?

Thanks,

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One of my whopping six respondents asked me to publish my
results to the list, so here they are:

-- 2 use it for a single application, and only when they have to

-- 1 was interested in trying

-- 3 wanted to know my results

I received two additional replies to my original email, both of
which were pointers to how I can use my scanner (thanks!). 

It seems, then, from the rather underwhelming response, that wine
really isn't used that often.  I'm still going to plow ahead with
it, though.  If I get some clients who want to convert from
windoze to a real os, they might still need to have access to
some of the old applications.

Lee


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Hi!

Can anyone tell me if it is faster to install 2.2.1 sources and cvsup to
2.2-stable or to clean /usr/src and then cvsup to 2.2-stable?

My machine is a 486 66MHz and my modem a 33k6 one and I'm currently
running 2.2.1 FreeBSD.

(Please cc me since I'm not on this list)

regards, Tommy



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I got this message after a recent system crash:
checking for core dump...savecore: reboot after panic: page fault
savecore: system went down at Sat Jan 3 18:35:32 1998
savecore: no dump, not enough free space on device

not enough free space? On which device? in my /var/crash directory?

How much space does actually this dump need? Equal to the size of my
swap partition? If so.. why dump to /var by default. Most people don't
have hundreds of mb's free in var? Maybe a comment in /etc/rc.conf about
this? Maybe savecore should say something like this:

savecore: /var: no dump, not enough free space on device

Anyone? Any why not send this error msg to syslogd? (This is a good thing 
if you don't have a serial console.)

Filesystems:
Filesystem  1K-blocks     Used    Avail Capacity  Mounted on
/dev/wd0a       31775    18954    10279    65%    /
/dev/wd0s1f    377238   240884   106175    69%    /usr
/dev/wd0s1e     29727     3249    24100    12%    /var
/dev/wd1s1e    808223   494311   249255    66%    /home
procfs              4        4        0   100%    /proc

Swap:
Device      1K-blocks     Used    Avail Capacity  Type
/dev/wd0s1b    174048        0   173984     0%    Interleaved

I have 80 MB ram.


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>I'm in a similar situation. What happens for you is that the tape has
>reached the end (my guess; I get write errors when I reach
>end-of-tapes), and is trying to tell you this on the tty; "fopen on
>/dev/tty" means that it cannot talk to a console, probably because
>you're running it from cron, or detached the dump process from the >tty.


I don't think this is the case, because some of the time it actually works,
just
not often.  And it dies at random times, sometimes at say 25% sometimes at
85%, ...etc...etc.

>AFAIK, you can't run dump from cron, at least not directly. (I'd like to
>hear from you folks! How do you make automated dumps?) Dump needs >user
interaction when an error or end-of-tape occurs, or it will get
>suspended or fail.

Again, I've gotten it to work from cron, though I've never tried to call
dump
from cron directly.  My cronjob calls a perlscript that first rewinds the
tape, and
then does a dump of /usr to /dev/nrst0.  The perl script redirects the
output
of dump and logs it into a PostgresSQL database, which I then can
examine from some web pages.. Its a pretty nice setup, but then again, I
only get a successful backup about 15% of the time.  When I originally
had it setup, for the first two weeks, it was working 100% everyday, but
then it started failing, and now it hardly ever works.  I use a different
tape every day of the week, and they are 4 gig cartridges.  My whole /usr
filesystem maybe has about 2 gigs of data on it..

>What does your dump command look like? If your tape can swallow no more
>than 2GB, you've reached the end-of-tape. Using the B option, yuo can
>tell dump about the tape lenght, and get "tape-end" instead of
>"write-error". If you expect hardware compression, are you sure it is
>switched on? Probably not?


something like this, (from memory)
dump -0uf /dev/nrst0 /usr

I'm not opposed to purchasing new backup hardware if anyone has any solid
suggestions.  Of course I still haven't completely determined if its a
hardware
failure, but that my best guess..

Jason




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Could someone please give me an overview of what I need to
do to connect my FreeBSD box via PPP to my ISP.  I alrady
have networking/tcpip setup.  Thanks for any input.

     ... doug
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Hi. Is this the right place for this question?  I'm using ppp to
dial up my network at work (13.*). I now want to make an
additional connection to the internet via IBM's internet service.
I've got the second connection dialed up, so netstat shows:

rmill@gwozmilla> netstat -nr
Routing tables

Internet:
Destination        Gateway            Flags     Refs     Use
Netif Expire
default            13.231.66.8        UGSc        5     1438
tun0
13.231.66.8        13.231.66.10       UH          5        0
tun0
13.231.66.10       127.0.0.1          UH          0
0       lo0
127.0.0.1          127.0.0.1          UH          1
764       lo0
127.1.1.1          127.0.0.1          UH          0
0       lo0
127.2.2.2          127.1.1.1          UH          0        0
tun0
166.72.87.229      127.0.0.1          UH          0
0       lo0
192.168.76/23      link#1             UC          0        0
192.168.77.5       0:60:97:8f:2d:b0   UHLW        5
4915       ed1   1099
204.146.253.145    166.72.87.229      UH          0        0
tun1

... but when I ping 204.146.253.145, I see the modem send light
blinking but don't receive anything. Can you suggest other things
to try (or direct me to the right place to ask the
question)? Thanks.

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Hi. Is this the right place for this question?&nbsp; I'm using ppp to dial
up my network at work (13.*). I&nbsp;now want to make an additional connection
to the internet via IBM's internet service. I've got the second connection
dialed up, so netstat shows:

<P><TT>rmill@gwozmilla> netstat -nr</TT>
<BR><TT>Routing tables</TT><TT></TT>

<P><TT>Internet:</TT>
<BR><TT>Destination&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Gateway&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
Flags&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Refs&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Use&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
Netif Expire</TT>
<BR><TT>default&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
13.231.66.8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; UGSc&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
5&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1438&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; tun0</TT>
<BR><TT>13.231.66.8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 13.231.66.10&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
UH&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 5&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
0&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; tun0</TT>
<BR><TT>13.231.66.10&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 127.0.0.1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
UH&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 0&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
0&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; lo0</TT>
<BR><TT>127.0.0.1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
127.0.0.1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; UH&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 764&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
lo0</TT>
<BR><TT>127.1.1.1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
127.0.0.1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; UH&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
0&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 0&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
lo0</TT>
<BR><TT>127.2.2.2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
127.1.1.1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; UH&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
0&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 0&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
tun0</TT>
<BR><TT>166.72.87.229&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 127.0.0.1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
UH&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 0&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
0&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; lo0</TT>
<BR><TT>192.168.76/23&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; link#1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
UC&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 0&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
0</TT>
<BR><TT>192.168.77.5&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 0:60:97:8f:2d:b0&nbsp;&nbsp;
UHLW&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 5&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
4915&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ed1&nbsp;&nbsp; 1099</TT>
<BR><TT>204.146.253.145&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 166.72.87.229&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
UH&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 0&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
0&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; tun1</TT>

<P>... but when I&nbsp;ping 204.146.253.145, I&nbsp;see the modem send
light blinking but don't receive anything. Can you suggest other things
to try (or direct me to the right place to ask the question)?&nbsp;Thanks.</HTML>

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Doug Jolley wrote:
> 
> Could someone please give me an overview of what I need to
> do to connect my FreeBSD box via PPP to my ISP.  I alrady
> have networking/tcpip setup.  Thanks for any input.
> 
>      ... doug
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First decide whether you want to use kernel or user ppp; started
via pppd or ppp respectively. Setup of both basically involves
editting files in '/etc/ppp'. But don't forget '/etc/resolv.conf'.
I feel kernel ppp is easier to set up but offers less flexibility
than user ppp. Reading the man pages pppd(8) and/or ppp(8) should
suffice. If you still have further questions don't hesitate to
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Go to it lad,

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I had this trouble and when I disabled the sleep function in the servers 
CMOS, it stopped.  Apparently the machine panics when if wakes up and a 
process request ( I hardly know what I am talking about) is already 
underway, and then things just go haywire!  Well, anyway that worked for me.

Bill


> > 
> > Obviously, the easy fix is to not let anyone FTP out!  But that
> won't work too
> > well, I don't think.
> > 
> > So what other ideas do you all have?
> > 
> > Patrick
> > 
> > P.S.  Since this is network related, here is my netstat:
> > 
> > # netstat -rn
> > Routing tables
> > 
> > Internet:
> > Destination        Gateway            Flags     Refs     Use    
> Netif Expire
> > default            204.255.239.10     UGSc        2        4      tun0
> > 127.0.0.1          127.0.0.1          UH          0        0       lo0
> > 127.0.0.2          127.0.0.2          UH          0        0       lo0
> > 127.0.0.3          127.0.0.3          UH          0        0       lo0
> > 127.0.0.4          127.0.0.4          UH          0        0       lo0
> > 127.0.0.5          127.0.0.5          UH          0        0       lo0
> > 127.0.0.6          127.0.0.6          UH          0        0       lo0
> > 127.0.0.7          127.0.0.7          UH          0        0       lo0
> > 127.0.0.8          127.0.0.8          UH          0        0       lo0
> > 192.168.1          link#1             UC          0        0 
> > 192.168.1.2        0:40:10:55:e1:2    UHLW        1        1     
> lnc1      2
> > 192.168.1.3        0:0:f4:af:3:b4     UHLW        0        1       lo0
> > 192.168.1.5        8:0:7:a6:49:f4     UHLW        1       43     
> lnc1    889
> > 204.255.239.10     204.255.227.108    UH          3        0      tun0
> > 
> 
> Hi Patrick;
> Just about 99.9 % of your problem is due to ftpd.
> I suggest you tell us which ftpd you are using.
> If you are using ftpd that came with the FreeBSD distribution, JUST
> FORGET IT, and install wu-ftpd
> it is in the /usr/ports/net;
> Download it and ENJOY !!!
> 
> I think ALL your trouble will VANISH then.
> 
> PS. FreeBSD-CORE guys, IS THIS A KNOWN BUGGGG ???
> aka (gotcha)
> 
> I use wu-ftpd , and is working like CHARM.
> Meanwhile you should use whatever means to avoid the PANIC, as you and
> your friends on the network will probably LOOSE data, which is not
> welcome, you may also, unlikely though, get somesort of HD trouble,
> since your panic may NOT shutdown the system cleanly. I suppose you
> alread know how to deny a service like ftp, temporarily.
> 
> Greetings
> 
> 
> ==
> MAY THE FORCE BE WITH YOU.
> _________________________________________________________
> DO YOU YAHOO!?
> Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
> 
> 

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Since ppp seems to be the problem of the day (or days), here is mine and 
I hope someone has the answer.

I have a FreeBSD 2.1.7 machine set up a a high school that I help out, 
and this box is configured as a dialup router with 18 dynamic IP #'s 
assigned to it.  I am running pppd for users to dialup to via modem.  The 
BSD machine has a Cyclades multiport 16Ye serial board connected via the 
ISA cylades board.

My problem is this.  I or any user can dial up to the first 
ttyc00 (positively) or second modem ttyc01 (usually) and maintain a good 
solid internet connection indefinitely with NO problems.  But if users 
hits the 3rd through the 16th modem, then they usually can only stay 
connected for around 2 to 3 minutes, sometimes longer, but not much.

The modems are Practical Peripherals 56k modems.  I have tipped all 
modems the same, so I don't think that is the problem.  But is this 
ramdom disconnecting a faulty ppp connection, or a modem problem.  How 
can I get any info on what is causing this.  netstat -i and -rn don't 
seem to reveal much, the /var/log files only mention inappropriate 
ioctl's , etc, but that only seems to pop up on any disconnect anyway 
normal or otherwise, and since the first two modems seem to be fine, I am 
just at a loss as to how to get all these others maintaining good 
connections.

Any ideas? I sure would appreciate it!


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On Sat, Jan 03, 1998 at 07:21:58AM -0800, Duck Dogers wrote:
>      Will Free BSD work on a FAT32 system?

The question is the other way around, more like "Will FAT32 work on a
FreeBSD system?".  The answer is that it's currently in early
implementation stages.  If you want to experiment with it, grab it
(from the FreeBSD-current distribution).  If you want solid software,
wait.

> If not naturally can the image program written for unix work for
> Free BSD as well?

FreeBSD *is* UNIX, except that the lawyers won't let us call it that.
Yes, if you get UNIX software in source, you can compile it for
FreeBSD.  If you get it in object form, it depends on the UNIX system,
as it does on any other UNIX system.

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I meant to mention one other little anomalie concerning my dialup 
problems via pppd.  On the first try from most any computer (most are 
Windows 95) the modem connects, then immediately disconnects, then 
redials ( I have auto redial set up) and will connect on the second 
try.  I do not have this problem from my laptop via a pcmcia modem, but I 
do from most any desktop or tower system irespective of the modem type.  
If I pull up the little scripting box (win95) on the first try, it is 
blank, but on the second try it runs my script fine.  I think this is 
somehow also tied to my disconnect problems.


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On Sat, Jan 03, 1998 at 08:24:39PM +0100, Hans Petter Bieker wrote:
> I got this message after a recent system crash:
> checking for core dump...savecore: reboot after panic: page fault
> savecore: system went down at Sat Jan 3 18:35:32 1998
> savecore: no dump, not enough free space on device
>
> not enough free space? On which device? in my /var/crash directory?

Presumably, unless you've changed /etc/rc.

> How much space does actually this dump need? Equal to the size of my
> swap partition?

Equal to the size of your memory.  It's a memory dump.

> If so.. why dump to /var by default. Most people don't have hundreds
> of mb's free in var? Maybe a comment in /etc/rc.conf about this?

I suppose there's some value in this.  Why don't you enter a PR
suggesting it?  I suspect, however, that a number of core team members
would like to keep it short.  I'm copying -hackers on this message.
Please follow up there.

> Maybe savecore should say something like this:
>
> savecore: /var: no dump, not enough free space on device

Well, one reason not to do this change is the possible symbolic link,
which makes it possible to put /var/crash on some other file system.
The other thing is that savecore almost invariably saves to
/var/crash, so it doesn't add much value.

> Anyone? Any why not send this error msg to syslogd? 

It's not running at this point.

> (This is a good thing if you don't have a serial console.)

Yes, there is some merit in the idea of starting syslogd earlier and
logging *all* the startup messages.  I did it once for a commercial
vendor, and it made looking for errors a lot easier.  If I have time
on my hands, I may have another go.

> Filesystems:
> Filesystem  1K-blocks     Used    Avail Capacity  Mounted on
> /dev/wd0a       31775    18954    10279    65%    /
> /dev/wd0s1f    377238   240884   106175    69%    /usr
> /dev/wd0s1e     29727     3249    24100    12%    /var
> /dev/wd1s1e    808223   494311   249255    66%    /home
> procfs              4        4        0   100%    /proc
>
> Swap:
> Device      1K-blocks     Used    Avail Capacity  Type
> /dev/wd0s1b    174048        0   173984     0%    Interleaved
>
> I have 80 MB ram.

Looking at this configuration, I'd suggest creating a directory
/home/crash and a symlink /var/crash pointing to it.

One thing you should be aware of is that the dump doesn't go away
immediately when you start the system.  It's at the end of the swap
partition, so you can almost invariably manually do a savecore when
the system is up and running and (in your case) not using more than
half the available swap space.

Greg

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On Mon, 2 Jan 1995, Gino RANAIVOARISOA wrote:

> Happy new year dear colleague,
> 
> I would like to know if this type of network card "3com 3c589d" is 
> supported by freebsd?

Yes, in the zp driver.

The `D' rev cards may or may not probe with that driver, though.  It
should work fine with the PAO distribution
(http://www.jp.freebsd.org/PAO/).

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On Thu, 1 Jan 1998, James Higgins wrote:

> Doug White wrote:
> > 
> > On Thu, 1 Jan 1998, James Higgins wrote:
> > 
> > > Ok,
> > >
> > > I change the I/O address to 0x630. Windows 95 shows the device at 0x630
> > > and linux also detects the drive at 0x630.  Kernel parameter in linux is
> > > "sbpcd=0x630,LaserMate" if that means anything to anyone.  Then I save
> > > the userconfig parameters and continue booting.
> > 
> > Did you set the interrupt?
> > 
> 
> There is no way to specify an interrupt as far as I can tell.

I don't know if the Panasonic interface supports interrupts, but you can
specify it by adding `int x' to the device info line.

controller matcd0  at isa? port 0x230 int 5 bio

Usually the controller shares with the sound card.

> > > The drive light flashes like the drive is read, but when I select it as
> > > my installation media I get the now infamous "No CDROM devices found....
> > > blah blah blah" error.  I can switch to virtual console 2 and see the
> > > line: "DEBUG:  Try at matcdc0 retruns errno 2".
> > 
> > Hit scroll lock at the main install menu, then use the arrow keys to
> > scroll back and see the boot prompt.  See if matcd0 found anything.

> It does not detect a drive while installing or if I compile a kernel
> with the following line in the configuration.
> 
> controller matcd0 at isa ? port 0x630 bio

Hm.  I wonder if this drive isn't-quite-matcd compatible.  I had a TEAC 4x
CD that used the Panasonic interface but a proprietary communication
language, so matcd would blink the light but wouldn't find it.  

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On Fri, 2 Jan 1998, Charlie Roots wrote:

> Hi there;
> I got by a file called passwd.pag, does any one know what
> this this file doing ??

Where was it?  This isn't a standard part of the system.  

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On Thu, 1 Jan 1998, Mark Turrin wrote:

> Hello Doug,
> 
> I want to thank you for the suggestion and report back on my successes.
> Apparently it did want the f option as it would not work when I removed
> it.  Here is the script command that worked:
> 
> /sbin/rdump 0cfua slugo:/dev/rmt0.1 /dev/sd0a            # /

Duh.  You must have the f option; it specifies the destination device.  

> Now is it correct that I could replace ``/dev/sd0a'' with the ``/'' (the
> real mount point of the partition) and it will still work?

Don't bet on it.  I don't know if dump knows to resolve filesystems using
/etc/fstab or not.

> > > rdump -0cfus slugo:/dev/rmt0.1 2200000 /dev/sd0s1e      # /home
> > > rdump -0cfus slugo:/dev/rmt0.1 2200000 /dev/sd0s1g      # /usr
> > > rdump -0cfus slugo:/dev/rmt0.1 2200000 /dev/sd0s1h      # /var
> > 
> > Oops, no dash.
> 
> Oh OK.  Gee that's what I love about Unix.  All commands use dashes except
> one.  gotta love it. :-P

If you didn't group them it would probably be OK.

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On Fri, 2 Jan 1998, Skip Hansen wrote:

> I've been using FreeBSD and Xfree86 with the Mach32 X server for
> several years without problem.  Recently I upgraded from FreeBSD
> 2.1.6 to 2.2.5 with Xfree 3.3.1 and I'm now having a minor problem
> that's driving me crazy.  The problem is that when I exit X (or
> switch to a text mode virtual console) my monitor loses horizontal
> sync.  Using vidcontrol to reset the console mode does not restore
> sync. The only thing that will get the monitor to sync again is a
> complete system restart.  The generic VGA256 server does not have
> this problem. 

Then the new X server isn't restoring a consistent video mode on exit.

Try getting it to enter the command `vidcontrol VGA_80x25' either using a
script or blind-typing it.  This has syscons change the video mode, and
hopefully it'll restore the mode to a consistent state. 

This problem should be reported to the XFree86 developers.

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On Sun, 4 Jan 1998, Greg Lehey wrote:
> > not enough free space? On which device? in my /var/crash directory?
> Presumably, unless you've changed /etc/rc.

Doesn't savecore know which partition it should dump to? if not -- how
does it can it find out if the partition is full without trying to write?

$ mkdir /tmp/c
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is it possible to do something similar here? Or is this msg generated by
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On Fri, 2 Jan 1998, vinny omoyi wrote:

>     I have a site at http://www.webspan.net/~vincent/ and I was
> wondering how I can use Free BSD and in what ways that would help me on
> my site. For the 2nd time I have read your page to try and see how I can
> use it but for some reason am not clicking it. Please help. I checked
> out most of the examples of pages that are of satisfied Free BSD users.

FreeBSD is an operating system.  It's what you would run on your web
server instead of whatever www.webspan.net is running now.  I doubt they'd
let you do that.  However, if you want to set up your own server on your
PC, then FreeBSD is what you want. 

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On Fri, 2 Jan 1998, David Turner wrote:

> I am having a problem with a webserver running freebsd 2.2.2 with
> apache. The problem is when you request a webpage from the internet the
> graphics are not loading and the page does not finish loading. The
> server has been fine for months. The pages come up fine when I request
> them from a computer on our ethernet of dial into one of our POPS
> however if I dial in from an outside source (webspan or AOL for example)
> I run into this problem. 

These types of problems can be caused by network lag, a bad piece of
network hardware between you and the destination site, or action by the
user to disable image loading on their browser.

I tried your pages and some of them load OK.  Try disabling tcp extensions
in /etc/rc.conf.

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On Fri, 2 Jan 1998, Paul Dekkers wrote:

> I couldn't find a page in the handbook as a guide while setting up NIS: is
> there any documentation/howto for that?

man yp

> And: how do I set up a master.passwd, because when exchanging the file
> with other hosts it might be difficult I think: in my master.passwd e.g.
> are long passwords (MD5 passwords) and when using those on a Linux box as 
> NIS client or another FreeBSD host as NIS client without MD5 it might be
> difficult: can I also put in non-md5's in there (and how to) or isn't this
> such a big problem as I expect it to be...?! (can it safely be combined
> with erm... crypt/des passwords? (the same huh) (how do I post-install
> that eventually)

If you will be exchanging passwords with other systems, you must use DES.
Install the des libs from ftp.internat.freebsd.org.  After installing DES
everyone will have to change their passwords so the MD5 passwords are
removed.  You can automate this by setting the expire time to 1.  The next
time they login, they'll be forced to change their password.  

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On Sat, Jan 03, 1998 at 07:00:19PM -0500, Tim Jokela wrote:
> I notice that you advertise at the website responsible for sending me the
> spam quoted below,
> <www.infobase-intl.com/cgi-bin/bone/InfoBase/loginAction/login>.
>
> I hope that you do not support spam. Please inform whoever is in charge at
> aaex.com that spamming is contrary to honest Internet business
> practices.

The FreeBSD project is strongly opposed to spam.  We expend a lot of
effort to limit it.  It's also not clear that the FreeBSD project is
"advertising" on this web page.  We ask people who use FreeBSD to
display a FreeBSD logo, including the one that you see at the bottom
of this page.  The page designer has chosen to make it a link to
www.FreeBSD.org, which makes sense.  IMO none of this has required any
action on the part of the FreeBSD project.

It's a sad fact of life that even predatory net users can use FreeBSD.
It would be contrary to the FreeBSD mission to try to stop them.

Greg


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Another observation: there are various levels of spam.  I once had a
spammer use my system to relay spam, trying to make it look like it
came from my site.  I consider that the worst, a criminal offence.

Next are those who spam mailing lists with unrelated, often obsecene
or illegal propositions.

After that are those who spam individuals with unrelated, often
obsecene or illegal propositions.

Finally, there are those who spam individuals with propositions which
they think may be of interest.  I'd certainly think that this one
falls into this category.  OK, it's spam, but it's less obnoxious than
most.

Greg

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On Sun, Jan 04, 1998 at 02:02:51AM +0100, Hans Petter Bieker wrote:
> On Sun, 4 Jan 1998, Greg Lehey wrote:
>>> not enough free space? On which device? in my /var/crash directory?
>> Presumably, unless you've changed /etc/rc.
>
> Doesn't savecore know which partition it should dump to? if not -- how
> does it can it find out if the partition is full without trying to write?

It takes the directory name as a parameter.  Take a look in /etc/rc.

> $ mkdir /tmp/c
> /: write failed, file system is full
> mkdir: c: No space left on device

Boy, that *is* full.  Not even space for a directory block.

> is it possible to do something similar here? Or is this msg generated by
> the kernel?

The high-intensity messages are generated by the kernel.  But what do
you mean "something similar"?  Do you mean, can you put your /tmp file
system elsewhere?  Yes, you can.  Just do this:

# mkdir /home/tmp
# mv /tmp /TMP
# ln -s /home/tmp /tmp

At some later time, when you're sure you don't need anything in /TMP,
you can remove it and its contents.

Greg

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On Fri, 2 Jan 1998, Paul Dekkers wrote:

> I currently run FreeBSD 2.2.1 on a mashine that's used as a multi-user
> system and I'm planning to setup a new mashine that doesn't let users log
> in but let it play web-server or mail-server or smth like that...
> I'm planning to put FreeBSD 2.2.1 on that server, but is that a good idea?
> I'm just doing it because I have that version on CD and I don't have newer
> versions... (although I can buy them) - Is the new version really that
> changed (security holes or in any other aspect (which? speed?) that I'd
> immediately buy the new version?

As always, there are changes and updates to the system.  The main problem
with staying on 2.2.1 is that it'll be difficult to update the system with
new additions and fixes since you're running on a code base two releases
old.  

2.2.5 is a fairly significant update, though, adding login capabilites,
rc.conf, and others.  

Since this is a play box, I suggest going for 2.2.5.  This way, you're
ahead of system changes and have some movement to experiment / learn about
new system features without distrupting your existing operations.  2.2.5
has been working great for me, but I do need to add some patches to fix
some stuff.

> If I'd upgrade the multi-user system, can I do that without any
> pain? What can I do to let it go nice and so on...?!

It's the usual upgrade procedure, except you have to rewrite sysconfig
into rc.conf.  It's quite easy if you're familiar with sysconfig.

> P.S. Or is it worth setting up for my home-system: is the awe 32 pnp
> supported? (including midi-player and so on?) (in that case it would be
> of interest ;-))

You'll need the new sound driver.  See the multimedia mail archives or
contact the list directly at multimedia@freebsd.org.

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On Sat, Jan 03, 1998 at 05:09:02PM -0800, Doug White wrote:
> On Fri, 2 Jan 1998, vinny omoyi wrote:
>
>>     I have a site at http://www.webspan.net/~vincent/ and I was
>> wondering how I can use Free BSD and in what ways that would help me on
>> my site. For the 2nd time I have read your page to try and see how I can
>> use it but for some reason am not clicking it. Please help. I checked
>> out most of the examples of pages that are of satisfied Free BSD users.
>
> FreeBSD is an operating system.  It's what you would run on your web
> server instead of whatever www.webspan.net is running now.  I doubt they'd
> let you do that.

I don't think they'd have a problem :-)

$ nslookup
Default Server:  localhost.lemis.com
Address:  127.0.0.1

> set type=hinfo
> www.webspan.net
Server:  localhost.lemis.com
Address:  127.0.0.1

Non-authoritative answer:
www.webspan.net canonical name = orion.webspan.net
orion.webspan.net       CPU = P5-166    OS = FreeBSD-2.1.7-RELEASE

> However, if you want to set up your own server on your PC, then
> FreeBSD is what you want.

And your friends at webspan will be able to understand what you're
talking about :-)

Under the circumstances, it looks like Doug and I have misunderstood
your question.  If so, could you restate it, please?

Greg

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Argh, please rewire Netscrape Communicator to not send HTML.

On Sat, 3 Jan 1998, Bob Miller wrote:

Hi. Is this the right place for this question?  I'm using ppp to
dial up my network at work (13.*). I now want to make an
additional connection to the internet via IBM's internet service.
I've got the second connection dialed up, so netstat shows:

rmill@gwozmilla> netstat -nr
Routing tables

Internet:
Destination        Gateway            Flags     Refs     Use
Netif Expire
default            13.231.66.8        UGSc        5     1438
tun0
13.231.66.8        13.231.66.10       UH          5        0
tun0
13.231.66.10       127.0.0.1          UH          0
0       lo0
127.0.0.1          127.0.0.1          UH          1
764       lo0
127.1.1.1          127.0.0.1          UH          0
0       lo0
127.2.2.2          127.1.1.1          UH          0        0
tun0
166.72.87.229      127.0.0.1          UH          0
0       lo0
192.168.76/23      link#1             UC          0        0
192.168.77.5       0:60:97:8f:2d:b0   UHLW        5
4915       ed1   1099
204.146.253.145    166.72.87.229      UH          0        0
tun1

... but when I ping 204.146.253.145, I see the modem send light
blinking but don't receive anything. Can you suggest other things
to try (or direct me to the right place to ask the
question)? Thanks.

I don't understand how your network is set up.

Let me get this straight:


---+-------------- [ Internet ] ----------------------+--------
   |                                                  |
   |                                                  |
 [WORK]                                             [IBM]
13.*.*.*                                          ?????????
   |           +------------------------------+       | 
   |           |     [ HOME MACHINE ]         |       |
   +-----------|-ppp/tun0            ppp/tun1-|-------|
               |       ethernet/ed1           |
               +-------------|----------------+
                             |
  ------------------[ local network ]---------------------

This is nuts.  If I have the case right, save money and dump IBM.

I suspect, though, that your worknet isn't connected to the Internet.  In
that case, you need to tweak your routing so that worknet traffic goes
over the link, local net traffic out the Ethernet card, and the rest out
the IBM link.  You'll need to know the netmasks for the worknet and local
Ethernet.

Let me know if I'm totally off base...

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On Sat, 3 Jan 1998, David E. Cross wrote:

> what is the make(1) command to build the release images (boot.flp,
> fixit.flp, bin.aa, bin.ab, ..., etc)?

This process involves checking out and rebuilding the entire release
structure.  You must have the CVS tree available to check out the release
from and enough disk space to build the entire system and archive up the
release packages.  

See http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/release/Makefile to start.
You will also need to set up cvsup.  

Any reason you need to do this?

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On Sat, 3 Jan 1998, Norman C Rice wrote:

> I am running the experimental upsd port on several FreeBSD 2.2.5-STABLE
> systems with APC Smart-UPS 1000s. Every 10 minutes /var/log/messages
> receives entries similar to
> 
> Jan  3 11:17:38 emu upsd[231]: apc_tune: toggle wraparound
> Jan  3 11:17:39 emu upsd[231]: apc_tune: toggle wraparound
> Jan  3 11:17:39 emu upsd[231]: apc_tune: negative response:    NO
> Jan  3 11:17:40 emu upsd[231]: apc_tune: toggle wraparound
> 

Warning:  the default upsd is wired for use on 240 volt UPS units.  The
voltage-dependent values will *NOT* work for 120 volt units.  These lines
are probably causing your problem:

>     tune "high-transfer-point"          264
>     tune "low-transfer-point"           196
>     tune "nominal-voltage"              220

You will need my modified version of upsd that is set up with values for
120 volt operation.  That or remove these lines and use the built-in
defaults for the UPS (or toggle the rear switches to your taste).  

> My experiments with removal of line power indicate that the shutdown
> process and line restoration work properly. For the time being, I 
> have commented out these messages in apc.c.

The negative response may be coming from a command like so:

poll "last-test"

This checks the results of the last self-test of the UPS.  If you aren't
running self tests, it'll report NO until one is run either manually or
automatically as programmed into the UPS.  I thought the line was annoying
to and just didn't have upsd check that (or else I removed the printf :-))

Beginning Monday you can fetch this from:

ftp://gdi.uoregon.edu/pub/upsd-2.0.1.6.1.tgz  

See the README for quick info and examples/upsd.conf.120v for starters. 
If you want to get fancy with tuning the transfer points and such, you'll
have to fish the values out of apc_static.c.  I actually have a manpage in
there, but it isn't installed by default.  

Hope this helps.

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On Sat, 3 Jan 1998, Tommy Hallgren wrote:

> Can anyone tell me if it is faster to install 2.2.1 sources and cvsup to
> 2.2-stable or to clean /usr/src and then cvsup to 2.2-stable?

Option #1 by far.  

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> Could someone please give me an overview of what I need to
> do to connect my FreeBSD box via PPP to my ISP.  I alrady
> have networking/tcpip setup.  Thanks for any input.

Go to http://www.Awfulhak.org/ppp.html and start reading :-)
Connecting to an ISP is described in great detail.

>      ... doug
> _____________________________________________________________________
> Doug Jolley    mailto://doug@bigwheel.net     http://www.bigwheel.net
>          Don't bogart that file, my friend.  Net it over to me.
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> Hi. Is this the right place for this question?  I'm using ppp to
> dial up my network at work (13.*). I now want to make an
> additional connection to the internet via IBM's internet service.
> I've got the second connection dialed up, so netstat shows:
> 
> rmill@gwozmilla> netstat -nr
> Routing tables
> 
> Internet:
> Destination        Gateway            Flags     Refs     Use
> Netif Expire
> default            13.231.66.8        UGSc        5     1438
> tun0
> 13.231.66.8        13.231.66.10       UH          5        0
> tun0
> 13.231.66.10       127.0.0.1          UH          0
> 0       lo0
> 127.0.0.1          127.0.0.1          UH          1
> 764       lo0
> 127.1.1.1          127.0.0.1          UH          0
> 0       lo0
> 127.2.2.2          127.1.1.1          UH          0        0
> tun0
> 166.72.87.229      127.0.0.1          UH          0
> 0       lo0
> 192.168.76/23      link#1             UC          0        0
> 192.168.77.5       0:60:97:8f:2d:b0   UHLW        5
> 4915       ed1   1099
> 204.146.253.145    166.72.87.229      UH          0        0
> tun1
> 
> ... but when I ping 204.146.253.145, I see the modem send light
> blinking but don't receive anything. Can you suggest other things
> to try (or direct me to the right place to ask the
> question)? Thanks.
[.....]

You shouldn't have the default route via your tun0 interface.  Remove 
the "add 0 0 hisaddr" bit for that connection.  If that's how to get 
to the 13.* network, use "add 13.0 255.0 hisaddr".

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On Thu, 1 Jan 1998 gsutter@pobox.com wrote:

> On Thu, 1 Jan 1998, Doug White wrote:
> 
> >On Thu, 1 Jan 1998, Joe "Marcus" Clarke wrote:
> >
> >> I just installed 2.2.5-RELEASE from scratch, and things went flawlessly.
> >> I did it via ftp using a modem...not bad guys!  Anyway, after a lot of
> >> configuring and tweaking, I finally needed to run the addgroup command.
> >> Much to my surprise, it didn't work.  Turns out, /usr/bin/tclsh didn't
> >> exist.  I KNOW I didn't delete it.  NEVER touch anything in /usr/bin.
> >
> >That's confirmed; the 2.2.5 bin distribution doesn't have tclsh, but the
> >2.2.2 one does. I'll submit a bug report.
> 
> I submitted this as misc/4938 on 11/04/97; it is still open.

Huh, they closed mine immediately.  Tell them to close it and refer to
bin/5405.

Looks like I need to sign on to the bugs system and clean out the chaff.
misc/3586 is the classic `downloaded boot.flp in ASCII mode' newbie
screwup.  And it's critical priority!  :-(

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On Fri, 2 Jan 1998, Charlie Roots wrote:

> I intend to buy a new 6 GB drive, and since I upgraded from 2.2.2-RELEASE
> to 3.0-Current over CVSUP, I can't install the system from the system 
> without having a bootable floppy, so is there a URL for the boot.flp,
> or I will have to install 2.2.2 then upgrade via cvsup.

more /usr/src/release/Makefile
cd /usr/src/release
make release

Also try ftp://current.freebsd.org/ for the build of the day.

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On Sat, Jan 03, 1998 at 05:52:57PM -0800, Doug White wrote:
> On Sat, 3 Jan 1998, Norman C Rice wrote:
> 
> > I am running the experimental upsd port on several FreeBSD 2.2.5-STABLE
> > systems with APC Smart-UPS 1000s. Every 10 minutes /var/log/messages
> > receives entries similar to
> > 
> > Jan  3 11:17:38 emu upsd[231]: apc_tune: toggle wraparound
> > Jan  3 11:17:39 emu upsd[231]: apc_tune: toggle wraparound
> > Jan  3 11:17:39 emu upsd[231]: apc_tune: negative response:    NO
> > Jan  3 11:17:40 emu upsd[231]: apc_tune: toggle wraparound
> > 
> 
> Warning:  the default upsd is wired for use on 240 volt UPS units.  The
> voltage-dependent values will *NOT* work for 120 volt units.  These lines
> are probably causing your problem:
> 
> >     tune "high-transfer-point"          264
> >     tune "low-transfer-point"           196
> >     tune "nominal-voltage"              220

Yes. I noticed these values. It appears that these values are straight
from `apc_static.c'. It appears that unless values (shutdown times,
voltages, etc.) are within the data structures that they don't work
in the configuration file. If this is true (I haven't looked real
close at the code), perhaps a rewrite is on order. Are the APC Smart-UPS
programming specifications freely available?

> 
> You will need my modified version of upsd that is set up with values for
> 120 volt operation.  That or remove these lines and use the built-in
> defaults for the UPS (or toggle the rear switches to your taste).  
> 
> > My experiments with removal of line power indicate that the shutdown
> > process and line restoration work properly. For the time being, I 
> > have commented out these messages in apc.c.
> 
> The negative response may be coming from a command like so:
> 
> poll "last-test"
> 
> This checks the results of the last self-test of the UPS.  If you aren't
> running self tests, it'll report NO until one is run either manually or
> automatically as programmed into the UPS.  I thought the line was annoying
> to and just didn't have upsd check that (or else I removed the printf :-))
> 
> Beginning Monday you can fetch this from:
> 
> ftp://gdi.uoregon.edu/pub/upsd-2.0.1.6.1.tgz  
> 
> See the README for quick info and examples/upsd.conf.120v for starters. 
> If you want to get fancy with tuning the transfer points and such, you'll
> have to fish the values out of apc_static.c.  I actually have a manpage in
> there, but it isn't installed by default.  

Great, I hope your `README' and manual page takes a little more disk space
than the corresponding ones in the experimental port. :-)

> 
> Hope this helps.

It sure does.

> 
> Doug White                              | University of Oregon  
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> http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite    | Computer Science Major
> 

Thanks, Doug. I will download your efforts on Monday and report back.
-- 
Regards,
Norman C. Rice, Jr.

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In addintion to the man pages there is a tutorial for this on
www.freebsd.org under documentation

Rudy


---Mark Ibell <marki@ihug.co.nz> wrote:
>
> Doug Jolley wrote:
> > 
> > Could someone please give me an overview of what I need to
> > do to connect my FreeBSD box via PPP to my ISP.  I alrady
> > have networking/tcpip setup.  Thanks for any input.
> > 
> >      ... doug
> >
_____________________________________________________________________
> > Doug Jolley    mailto://doug@bigwheel.net    
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> >          Don't bogart that file, my friend.  Net it over to me.
> >
---------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> First decide whether you want to use kernel or user ppp; started
> via pppd or ppp respectively. Setup of both basically involves
> editting files in '/etc/ppp'. But don't forget '/etc/resolv.conf'.
> I feel kernel ppp is easier to set up but offers less flexibility
> than user ppp. Reading the man pages pppd(8) and/or ppp(8) should
> suffice. If you still have further questions don't hesitate to
> ask.
> 
> Go to it lad,
> 
>   Mark
> 

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Downloaded ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/docs/handbook-ascii.gz yesterday.
Did gunzip handbook-ascii.gz
Then did view handbook-ascii
There are a bunch of unprintable characters all over the file.

Uttsa Mader Here!!!

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I think some people might disagree with my opinion, but I think the best
course of action would be to cvsup to a clean /usr/src and make world.  If
you have built a custom kernel, make a backup copy of your conf file
somewhere other than below /usr/src (I forgot when I did this, it's no big
deal to make a copy of GENERIC and then tweak it to your own specks, it's
just a pain if you forget).  MAKE SURE YOU BACKUP /etc!!!! 

Also if you have done make world in the past make sure /usr/obj is clean. 
Some files/dirs require a little 'gentle persuasion' to rm.  You might
have to execute the following command to truly make sure /usr/obj is
clean: 

csh# chflags -R noschg /usr/obj/; rm -rf /usr/obj/

When make world is complete, diff your backup of /etc with the new /etc.
I can't remember if make world populates /etc, so you might have to check
/usr/src/etc against both /etc and your backup copy.

Then recompile a new kernel image and reboot.

Hope this helps.

- -burton-

On Sat, 3 Jan 1998, Tommy Hallgren wrote:

> Date: Sat, 3 Jan 1998 20:43:49 +0100 (MET)
> From: Tommy Hallgren <md6tommy@mdstud.chalmers.se>
> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> Cc: md6tommy@mdstud.chalmers.se
> Subject: 2.2.1 to 2.2-stable
> 
> Hi!
> 
> Can anyone tell me if it is faster to install 2.2.1 sources and cvsup to
> 2.2-stable or to clean /usr/src and then cvsup to 2.2-stable?
> 
> My machine is a 486 66MHz and my modem a 33k6 one and I'm currently
> running 2.2.1 FreeBSD.
> 
> (Please cc me since I'm not on this list)
> 
> regards, Tommy
> 
> 
> 


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OK I'm very new to X without the CDE so I got some simple questions:

1. How the heck to switch from one terminal to another using the
keyboard. Alt+F1 and Alt+F2 doesn't work :-)

2. Is there a CDE for XFree86? Where is it? I know it's no Workplace
Shell but hey it's better than nothing.

3. Since I'm on the subject of OS/2 is there a Launchpad utility
identical to OS/2 for X?

4. What's the best way to start X upon bootup so that I login when I'm
already in X?

5. All docs I've found in X deal with installation and/or
troubleshooting (of installation). Is there anything available online
or is the book my only realistic option.

Thanks. Rudy.
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Doug White wrote:
> 
> >On Thu, 1 Jan 1998, Joe "Marcus" Clarke wrote:
> >
> >> I just installed 2.2.5-RELEASE from scratch, and things went flawlessly.
> >> I did it via ftp using a modem...not bad guys!  Anyway, after a lot of
> >> configuring and tweaking, I finally needed to run the addgroup command.
> >> Much to my surprise, it didn't work.  Turns out, /usr/bin/tclsh didn't
> >> exist.  I KNOW I didn't delete it.  NEVER touch anything in /usr/bin.

Sorry I missed this one earlier. :(  You should try pw(8) as it
has replaced the *group files that used to depend on tclsh.

> >That's confirmed; the 2.2.5 bin distribution doesn't have tclsh, but the
> >2.2.2 one does. I'll submit a bug report.
>
> I submitted this as misc/4938 on 11/04/97; it is still open.

I will look at this one shortly.

> Huh, they closed mine immediately.  Tell them to close it and refer to
> bin/5405.
> 
> Looks like I need to sign on to the bugs system and clean out the chaff.
> misc/3586 is the classic `downloaded boot.flp in ASCII mode' newbie
> screwup.  And it's critical priority!  :-(

Yes please sign up and if you need a committer to do some dirty
work give me a jingle.

Steve

> Doug White                              | University of Oregon
> Internet:  dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu    | Residence Networking Assistant
> http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite    | Computer Science Major

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On Sat, Jan 03, 1998 at 06:29:31PM -0800, Rudy Gireyev wrote:
> Downloaded ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/docs/handbook-ascii.gz yesterday.
> Did gunzip handbook-ascii.gz
> Then did view handbook-ascii
> There are a bunch of unprintable characters all over the file.
> 
> Uttsa Mader Here!!!
> 
> Rudy
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Try `more handbook.ascii' or `less handbook.ascii'. I believe those
"unprintable characters" are printable; they are just backspaces (^H)
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On Sat, Jan 03, 1998 at 06:41:23PM -0800, Rudy Gireyev wrote:
> OK I'm very new to X without the CDE so I got some simple questions:
> 
> 1. How the heck to switch from one terminal to another using the
> keyboard. Alt+F1 and Alt+F2 doesn't work :-)

If you're trying to access another virtual terminal, try Ctrl+Alt+Fn
where `n' is the vitual terminal number. After accessing the a virtual
terminal you only need to use Alt+Fn to access others (and one of
those will return you to X).

> 
> 2. Is there a CDE for XFree86? Where is it? I know it's no Workplace
> Shell but hey it's better than nothing.

Try the KDE port.

> 
> 3. Since I'm on the subject of OS/2 is there a Launchpad utility
> identical to OS/2 for X?

Try the KDE or AfterStep (like NextStep) ports.

> 
> 4. What's the best way to start X upon bootup so that I login when I'm
> already in X?
> 
> 5. All docs I've found in X deal with installation and/or
> troubleshooting (of installation). Is there anything available online
> or is the book my only realistic option.
        ^^^^^^^^
What aspect of X are you interested in?  If "the book" is one of the
O'Reilly series, you can't go wrong (IMHO).

> 
> Thanks. Rudy.
> _________________________________________________________
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> Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Hi guys,

Doug White wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 1 Jan 1998, Mark Turrin wrote:

> > Now is it correct that I could replace ``/dev/sd0a'' with the ``/'' (the
> > real mount point of the partition) and it will still work?
> 
> Don't bet on it.  I don't know if dump knows to resolve filesystems using
> /etc/fstab or not.

This is how I use dump:

dump 0auf /dev/nrst0 /
dump 0auf /dev/nrst0 /usr
dump 0au /var

(so it rewinds after doing /var)

So ya, you can use the mount point of the partition.

Eric Hedstrom
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Hi,

How can I configure FreeBSD auto dial-up 
to ISp for timing?

Could I let the FreeBSD not only make
a mail server in LAN,but also let it make
a dial-up to ISP terminal?

Regards to you and Thanks.

Chen.coca

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Hi

I'm running FreeBSD 2.2.1 and discovered the login.access file in /etc...
but I tried the following:

-:users:ttyv5
to prevent users from the group 'users' logging in from ttyv5
BUT: they were still able to! If I replaced 'users' with the 'username' it
worked well...

-:ALL except staff:ALL
however this rule worked: everybody was not allowed to login from
everywhere BUT users in the staff group... If I replaced this with
+:staff:ALL
-:ALL:ALL
it hadn't work...

And doing this I can prevent users from loggin in except the 'staff' but,
when I just don't want the group 'students' to log in:
-:student:ALL except .localnet
doesn't work... and when converting that to a plus '+' rule it doesn't
work...

Is there something wrong with that file or am I doing something wrong?
(maybe just under FreeBSD 2.2.1 and it's a bug which has been fixed
now??? (not able to try it))

Paul


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Hi,

I have an ancient SoundBlaster Pro in my machine.  Under older releases
of FreeBSD I have run nas successfully.  Under 2.2.5 nas runs, but only
with '.au' files.  All other types result in a variety of unpleasant
noises.  Even '.au' files have one unwanted effect - after playing the sound
there is a pause of about 5 seconds before the client program terminates.

I'd like to give up nas, so that I can get sound from Netscape.

Any ideas?

TIA

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Has anyone compiled Livingston Radius 2.0.1 under FreeBSD? If anyone has a
Makefile id appreciate it...it does need to work with both des and md5,
otherwise it would be no better than the BSDI binary...

thanks




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I'm only interested in X as a user, since I don't plan on coding in X,
so The Users Guide by O'Reilly was the one I was talking about.
Basically I'm looking for a book to answer the questions I posted here
and then some.

Rudy


---Norman C Rice <nrice@emu.sourcee.com> wrote:
>
> On Sat, Jan 03, 1998 at 06:41:23PM -0800, Rudy Gireyev wrote:
> > OK I'm very new to X without the CDE so I got some simple questions:
> > 
> > 1. How the heck to switch from one terminal to another using the
> > keyboard. Alt+F1 and Alt+F2 doesn't work :-)
> 
> If you're trying to access another virtual terminal, try Ctrl+Alt+Fn
> where `n' is the vitual terminal number. After accessing the a virtual
> terminal you only need to use Alt+Fn to access others (and one of
> those will return you to X).
> 
> > 
> > 2. Is there a CDE for XFree86? Where is it? I know it's no Workplace
> > Shell but hey it's better than nothing.
> 
> Try the KDE port.
> 
> > 
> > 3. Since I'm on the subject of OS/2 is there a Launchpad utility
> > identical to OS/2 for X?
> 
> Try the KDE or AfterStep (like NextStep) ports.
> 
> > 
> > 4. What's the best way to start X upon bootup so that I login when
I'm
> > already in X?
> > 
> > 5. All docs I've found in X deal with installation and/or
> > troubleshooting (of installation). Is there anything available
online
> > or is the book my only realistic option.
>         ^^^^^^^^
> What aspect of X are you interested in?  If "the book" is one of the
> O'Reilly series, you can't go wrong (IMHO).
> 
> > 
> > Thanks. Rudy.
> > _________________________________________________________
> > DO YOU YAHOO!?
> > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
> 
> -- 
> Regards,
> Norman C. Rice, Jr.
> 

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On Sat, 3 Jan 1998, Rudy Gireyev wrote:
> 2. Is there a CDE for XFree86? Where is it? I know it's no Workplace
> Shell but hey it's better than nothing.

htp://www.xinside.com

Works great.

Dan
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dear sir,
i have some script.. here it is.

--------------------------------------
while : ; 
	do
#start	
echo "hello..!!" #first command
cd /etc		#second command
whoami		#third command
#end
	done

--------------------------------------

i wanna modify that scipt, therefore first-command, second-command, and
third command run arbitrary (randomly). Could you help me how to do it ?

finally, thank for your attention.

sulaiman

nb: please send your answer to sulaiman@students.itb.ac.id

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I'm considering getting the Encyclopedia Britannica and/or the Oxford
English Dictionary on CD-ROM, but I'm a little concerned that the data
may be in formats that FreeBSD doesn't understand (like a proprietary
browser that runs only under Microsoft).  Does anybody have any
experience with these CDs?  Other things that would be of interest
would be the relationship between the CD-ROM version and the printed
version (especially for the EB.  It seems that it would be difficult
to get that much information on a single disk).  And, of course, if
you know any places where the prices are good, that would help too.

Thanks in advance
Greg


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Anyone know of a port of LAT to FreeBSD?  Any clue on if someone may do
one?

Joe Clarke


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Hi,

I was setting up a new machine, and was having cabling difficulties. I 
was getting so many error messages on the console that I couldn't really 
do anything without <CTRL-L>ing every other second.

How can you make a syslog free console? Is there any way I can make 
/dev/console appear only on ttyv0?

I even changed the /dev/console line to /dev/null in /etc/syslog.conf and 
HUP syslog but it still didn't work. Is there such an option in either 
/etc/syslog.conf or /etc/ttys to fix this?


Thanks,
Kevin

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If no-one replies here try freebsd-isp@freebsd.org

Rudy


---Shawn Ramsey <shawn@luke.cpl.net> wrote:
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> Has anyone compiled Livingston Radius 2.0.1 under FreeBSD? If anyone
has a
> Makefile id appreciate it...it does need to work with both des and
md5,
> otherwise it would be no better than the BSDI binary...
> 
> thanks
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From owner-freebsd-questions  Sat Jan  3 22:19:59 1998
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It's hard to say without knowing what you are trying to accomplish.
The first thing that pops into my head is create three of these
scripts and run them at the same time.

Rudy.

---kadex <kadex@design.paume.itb.ac.id> wrote:
>
> dear sir,
> i have some script.. here it is.
> 
> --------------------------------------
> while : ; 
> 	do
> #start	
> echo "hello..!!" #first command
> cd /etc		#second command
> whoami		#third command
> #end
> 	done
> 
> --------------------------------------
> 
> i wanna modify that scipt, therefore first-command, second-command,
and
> third command run arbitrary (randomly). Could you help me how to do
it ?
> 
> finally, thank for your attention.
> 
> sulaiman
> 
> nb: please send your answer to sulaiman@students.itb.ac.id
> 

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We use Encyclopedia Britannica at our high school and it requires
DOS/Windows as it contains dos executables that run off the CD (through
Netscape).  Unless you can find a DOS emulator for FreeBSD, it probably
won't work.  It does contain HTML files of each topic/category, but is hard
to search without the executables.

However, Britannica offers a online internet version that works on all
platforms .  Info is available at http://www.eb.com

I have not used Oxford Dictionary before, so I don't know anything about
it's compatibility.

>I'm considering getting the Encyclopedia Britannica and/or the Oxford
>English Dictionary on CD-ROM, but I'm a little concerned that the data
>may be in formats that FreeBSD doesn't understand (like a proprietary
>browser that runs only under Microsoft).  Does anybody have any
>experience with these CDs?  Other things that would be of interest
>would be the relationship between the CD-ROM version and the printed
>version (especially for the EB.  It seems that it would be difficult
>to get that much information on a single disk).  And, of course, if
>you know any places where the prices are good, that would help too.
>
>Thanks in advance
>Greg


Ben