From owner-freebsd-small Mon Oct 12 02:32:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA00630 for freebsd-small-outgoing; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 02:32:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from korin.warman.org.pl (korin.nask.waw.pl [148.81.160.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA00625 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 02:32:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from abial@nask.pl) Received: from localhost (abial@localhost) by korin.warman.org.pl (8.9.1/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA11990 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 11:37:57 +0200 (CEST) X-Authentication-Warning: korin.warman.org.pl: abial owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 11:37:56 +0200 (CEST) From: Andrzej Bialecki X-Sender: abial@korin.warman.org.pl To: freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: New utilities on PicoBSD WWW Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I uploaded two new programs to www.freebsd.org/~picobsd/tinyware. They start new category - the software ported from Minix.. :-)). You may wonder why should anyone port from so old and simplistic system as Minix. The answer is simple: size. Its programs are usually more limited than normal FreeBSD versions, but the reward comes in size which is usually 1/2 to even 1/10th. Currently the following are available: * msh - mostly compatible Bourne Shell. * mined - small editor, smaller even than our 'ee' by ca. half. Almost done is also in.telnetd. Enjoy! Andrzej Bialecki -------------------- ++-------++ ------------------------------------- ||PicoBSD|| FreeBSD in your pocket? Go and see: Research & Academic |+-------+| "Small & Embedded FreeBSD" Network in Poland | |TT~~~| | http://www.freebsd.org/~picobsd/ -------------------- ~-+==---+-+ ------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Mon Oct 12 05:51:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA16716 for freebsd-small-outgoing; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 05:51:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from babylon.wsc.monash.edu.au (babylon.wsc.monash.edu.au [130.194.166.91]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA16707 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 05:51:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from graeme@babylon.wsc.monash.edu.au) Received: from localhost (graeme@localhost) by babylon.wsc.monash.edu.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA08314; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 22:50:46 +1000 Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 22:50:46 +1000 (EST) From: Graeme Cross Reply-To: Graeme.Cross@sci.monash.edu.au To: Andrzej Bialecki cc: freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: New utilities on PicoBSD WWW In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-Attribution: gjc X-PGP-Key-ID: 702DB549 X-URL: http://www.wsc.monash.edu.au/~graeme/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 12 Oct 1998, Andrzej Bialecki wrote: > I uploaded two new programs to www.freebsd.org/~picobsd/tinyware. They > start new category - the software ported from Minix.. :-)). > > You may wonder why should anyone port from so old and simplistic system as > Minix. The answer is simple: size. Its programs are usually more limited > than normal FreeBSD versions, but the reward comes in size which is > usually 1/2 to even 1/10th. > > Currently the following are available: > > * msh - mostly compatible Bourne Shell. > * mined - small editor, smaller even than our 'ee' by ca. half. > > Almost done is also in.telnetd. Andrzej: You might want to have a look at the ELKS project (Linux for 80x6, x < 3). Last time I checked, people involved in that project were collecting a wide range of low-memory programs for an ELKS distribution. At the very least, it would provide a useful 'shopping list' of commands that are readily available for low-memory embedded apps. Cheers Graeme -- Graeme Cross -- Water Studies Centre, Monash University Random thought #137 (Collect all 235) I love cats ... they taste just like chicken! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Mon Oct 12 07:54:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA05095 for freebsd-small-outgoing; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 07:54:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from shemp.palomine.net (shemp.palomine.net [205.198.88.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA05090 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 07:54:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cjohnson@palomine.net) Received: (qmail 26800 invoked by uid 1000); 12 Oct 1998 14:54:26 -0000 Message-ID: <19981012105425.A26620@palomine.net> Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 10:54:25 -0400 From: Chris Johnson To: freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Router version 0.41/rc.conf Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've just started playing with the router version of PicoBSD 0.41. The whole startup procedure has me a little perplexed. There are a bunch of rc files, rc.conf, rc.firewall, rc.network, etc., but none of them ever seems to be sourced during startup. oinit.rc seems to run, which sources rc, but that's it. The loopback interface gets configured in rc, but since nothing ever runs rc.network my ethernet interface never gets configured. I've tried to add some of the "normal" rc.conf stuff to rc, but the result was always a hung system, so I suspect that there are things I don't understand about the way startup is supposed to work here. I could just manually run everything from rc, but that doesn't seem right--somehow the other rc files should be brought into the process. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. Chris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Mon Oct 12 09:31:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA19568 for freebsd-small-outgoing; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 09:31:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from korin.warman.org.pl (korin.nask.waw.pl [148.81.160.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA19560 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 09:31:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from abial@nask.pl) Received: from localhost (abial@localhost) by korin.warman.org.pl (8.9.1/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA11337; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 15:13:09 +0200 (CEST) X-Authentication-Warning: korin.warman.org.pl: abial owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 15:13:08 +0200 (CEST) From: Andrzej Bialecki X-Sender: abial@korin.warman.org.pl To: Graeme.Cross@sci.monash.edu.au cc: freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: New utilities on PicoBSD WWW In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 12 Oct 1998, Graeme Cross wrote: > Andrzej: > > You might want to have a look at the ELKS project (Linux for 80x6, x < 3). > > Last time I checked, people involved in that project were collecting a > wide range of low-memory programs for an ELKS distribution. > > At the very least, it would provide a useful 'shopping list' of commands > that are readily available for low-memory embedded apps. Good point - thanks, I'll look around... Andrzej Bialecki -------------------- ++-------++ ------------------------------------- ||PicoBSD|| FreeBSD in your pocket? Go and see: Research & Academic |+-------+| "Small & Embedded FreeBSD" Network in Poland | |TT~~~| | http://www.freebsd.org/~picobsd/ -------------------- ~-+==---+-+ ------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Mon Oct 12 13:59:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA11565 for freebsd-small-outgoing; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 13:59:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from korin.warman.org.pl (korin.nask.waw.pl [148.81.160.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA11453 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 13:59:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from abial@nask.pl) Received: from localhost (abial@localhost) by korin.warman.org.pl (8.9.1/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA01160; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 23:03:46 +0200 (CEST) X-Authentication-Warning: korin.warman.org.pl: abial owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 23:03:45 +0200 (CEST) From: Andrzej Bialecki X-Sender: abial@korin.warman.org.pl To: Chris Johnson cc: freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Router version 0.41/rc.conf In-Reply-To: <19981012105425.A26620@palomine.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 12 Oct 1998, Chris Johnson wrote: > I've just started playing with the router version of PicoBSD 0.41. The whole > startup procedure has me a little perplexed. There are a bunch of rc files, > rc.conf, rc.firewall, rc.network, etc., but none of them ever seems to be > sourced during startup. oinit.rc seems to run, which sources rc, but that's it. > The loopback interface gets configured in rc, but since nothing ever runs > rc.network my ethernet interface never gets configured. Yeah, my fault... :-( At the moment the proper configuration procedure for the "router" version is best described in the sources for oinit, because this is the crucial point where the incompatibility lurks... Basically, you should just manually put needed config commands into oinit.rc (or "source-in" with the '.' (dot) command some other file). But BEWARE!!: any command you put there must not block, i.e. if it would block you have to end it with an ampersand '&'. Also, the oinit's parser is very picky - don't use any unnecessary characters... > I've tried to add some of the "normal" rc.conf stuff to rc, but the result was > always a hung system, so I suspect that there are things I don't understand > about the way startup is supposed to work here. I could just manually run > everything from rc, but that doesn't seem right--somehow the other rc files > should be brought into the process. Yes, you're right - when I have some time I'm going to improve the parser a bit, and prepare the right rc.* files - the ones you got in floppy.tree/etc/rc.* are mostly useless with oinit. OTOH, you don't have to use oinit - you can use normal init(8) and add getty+login+shell to your crunch.conf. Then all the rc.files will work as expected. I'm almost done with porting some additional small utilities, such as a mini-shell and mini-editor - they should improve this situation a bit... Andrzej Bialecki -------------------- ++-------++ ------------------------------------- ||PicoBSD|| FreeBSD in your pocket? Go and see: Research & Academic |+-------+| "Small & Embedded FreeBSD" Network in Poland | |TT~~~| | http://www.freebsd.org/~picobsd/ -------------------- ~-+==---+-+ ------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Mon Oct 12 16:50:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA13777 for freebsd-small-outgoing; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 16:50:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from shemp.palomine.net (shemp.palomine.net [205.198.88.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA13768 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 16:50:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cjohnson@palomine.net) Received: (qmail 28191 invoked by uid 1000); 12 Oct 1998 23:50:14 -0000 Message-ID: <19981012195014.A28161@palomine.net> Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 19:50:14 -0400 From: Chris Johnson To: freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: PicoBSD router/natd/ipfw Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've got the router version of PicoBSD running, and I've configured de0 and de1. What I'm trying to do is run natd to masquerade my private LAN over my public IP address. This is my first experience with natd (I currently use Linux masquerading). Here's what I did: natd -n de0 (de0 is the interface connected to the outside world). ipfw -f flush ipfw add divert natd ip from any to any via ed0 The last line results in: ipfw: setsockopt(IP_FW_ADD): Invalid argument I'm reasonably certain that my divert command was correct, so I suspect that there may be a problem with ipfw in PicoBSD 0.41 (not built from the same source as the kernel?). Can someone confirm these results, or can someone prove me wrong and tell me what mistake I'm making? Thanks! Chris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Mon Oct 12 21:23:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA23520 for freebsd-small-outgoing; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 21:23:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from the.oneinsane.net (gw.oneinsane.net [207.113.133.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA23515 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 21:23:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from insane@the.oneinsane.net) Received: (from insane@localhost) by the.oneinsane.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) id VAA14818; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 21:23:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <19981012212309.A14640@oneinsane.net> Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 21:23:09 -0700 From: "Ron 'The Insane One' Rosson" To: Chris Johnson , freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PicoBSD router/natd/ipfw Reply-To: insane@oneinsane.net References: <19981012195014.A28161@palomine.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <19981012195014.A28161@palomine.net>; from Chris Johnson on Mon, Oct 12, 1998 at 07:50:14PM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD the.oneinsane.net 2.2.7-STABLE X-Opinion: What you read here is my IMHO X-Disclaimer: I am a firm believer in RTFM X-WWW: http://www.oneinsane.net Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Oct 12, 1998 at 07:50:14PM -0400, Chris Johnson wrote: > I've got the router version of PicoBSD running, and I've configured de0 and > de1. What I'm trying to do is run natd to masquerade my private LAN over my > public IP address. > > This is my first experience with natd (I currently use Linux masquerading). > Here's what I did: > > natd -n de0 (de0 is the interface connected to the outside world). > ipfw -f flush > ipfw add divert natd ip from any to any via ed0 ^^^ > > The last line results in: > ipfw: setsockopt(IP_FW_ADD): Invalid argument > > I'm reasonably certain that my divert command was correct, so I suspect that > there may be a problem with ipfw in PicoBSD 0.41 (not built from the same > source as the kernel?). > > Can someone confirm these results, or can someone prove me wrong and tell me > what mistake I'm making? > You show you did ed0 when you said you have de0 and de1 ??? Hmm.. Could this be it. ;-) Ron -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Ron Rosson ... and a UNIX user said ... The InSaNe One rm -rf * insane@oneinsane.net and all was null and void ------------------------------------------------------------------- It's so nice to be insane, nobody asks you to explain. [----------------------------System Info---------------------------] 9:20PM up 9 days, 21:30, 2 users, load averages: 0.81, 0.80, 0.81 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Mon Oct 12 21:48:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA26932 for freebsd-small-outgoing; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 21:48:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from shemp.palomine.net (shemp.palomine.net [205.198.88.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA26927 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 21:48:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cjohnson@palomine.net) Received: (qmail 29096 invoked by uid 1000); 13 Oct 1998 04:48:13 -0000 Message-ID: <19981013004813.A29082@palomine.net> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 00:48:13 -0400 From: Chris Johnson To: insane@oneinsane.net, freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PicoBSD router/natd/ipfw References: <19981012195014.A28161@palomine.net> <19981012212309.A14640@oneinsane.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <19981012212309.A14640@oneinsane.net>; from Ron 'The Insane One' Rosson on Mon, Oct 12, 1998 at 09:23:09PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Oct 12, 1998 at 09:23:09PM -0700, Ron 'The Insane One' Rosson wrote: > On Mon, Oct 12, 1998 at 07:50:14PM -0400, Chris Johnson wrote: > > I've got the router version of PicoBSD running, and I've configured de0 and > > de1. What I'm trying to do is run natd to masquerade my private LAN over my > > public IP address. > > > > This is my first experience with natd (I currently use Linux masquerading). > > Here's what I did: > > > > natd -n de0 (de0 is the interface connected to the outside world). > > ipfw -f flush > > ipfw add divert natd ip from any to any via ed0 > ^^^ > > > > > The last line results in: > > ipfw: setsockopt(IP_FW_ADD): Invalid argument > > > > I'm reasonably certain that my divert command was correct, so I suspect that > > there may be a problem with ipfw in PicoBSD 0.41 (not built from the same > > source as the kernel?). > > > > Can someone confirm these results, or can someone prove me wrong and tell me > > what mistake I'm making? > > > You show you did ed0 when you said you have de0 and de1 ??? Sorry--that was a typo. I was copying stuff off of my console onto another computer to send the message, and copied it wrong. In any case, I typed it in there about a zillion times, sometimes leaving out the "via de0" bit, and the same error message always ensued. Chris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Tue Oct 13 11:58:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA00996 for freebsd-small-outgoing; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 11:58:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from oldyeller.comtest.com (comtest.hits.net [206.127.244.117]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA00935 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 11:57:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from randal@comtest.com) Received: from graphics.comtest.com (graphics.comtest.com [206.127.245.194]) by oldyeller.comtest.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA09536; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 08:44:26 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from randal@comtest.com) Message-Id: <199810131844.IAA09536@oldyeller.comtest.com> From: "Randal S. Masutani" Organization: ComTest Technologies, Inc. To: Chris Johnson Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 09:03:31 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: PicoBSD router/natd/ipfw Reply-to: randal@comtest.com CC: freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <19981012195014.A28161@palomine.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v3.01b) Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 12 Oct 98, at 19:50, Chris Johnson wrote: > This is my first experience with natd (I currently use Linux masquerading). > Here's what I did: > > natd -n de0 (de0 is the interface connected to the outside world). > ipfw -f flush > ipfw add divert natd ip from any to any via ed0 > > The last line results in: > ipfw: setsockopt(IP_FW_ADD): Invalid argument You must make sure you have a kernel built with options IPFIREWALL If you are using the GENERIC kernel, then it is not enabled by default. You must rebuild a custom kernel with the above line added. Randal Masutani ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ComTest Technologies, Inc. 3049 Ualena St., Suite 1005 Honolulu, Hawaii 96819 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Wed Oct 14 14:18:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA26798 for freebsd-small-outgoing; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 14:18:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fyeung5.netific.com (netific.vip.best.com [205.149.182.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA26786 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 14:18:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fyeung@netific.com) Received: (from root@localhost) by fyeung5.netific.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id NAA25507; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 13:13:09 -0700 From: francis yeung Message-Id: <199810142013.NAA25507@fyeung5.netific.com> Subject: Re: ISA Aironet cards... Are they NE2000 compatible? In-Reply-To: <199810141913.MAA24797@kumr.lns.com> from Tim Pozar at "Oct 14, 98 12:13:20 pm" To: pozar@lns.com (Tim Pozar) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 13:13:06 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG, abial@nask.pl X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Tim, Allow me to cc this mail to the freebsd-small alias. If you can submit your contribution to Andrzej Bialecki - http://www.freebsd.org/~picobsd and abial@nask.pl, it will be great. Many thanks. Francis > Jonathan Steuer wrote: > > I'm (*FINALLY* - don't ask!) in the process of getting a couple of the new > > WaveLAN 802.11 cards, and would love to help out with this. I can also > > scare up a 386 or 486 if that will suffice for a machine... > > Cliff Skolnick has been kind enought to set aside some directory space > for me to compile a kernel with the wavelan support in it and build > a PicoBSD floppy. I had dropped the idea with Harvie's email that the > wavelan drives do not talk to the Aironet radios. If there is interest > in getting a PicoBSD distribution with Wavelan support I can go ahead. > > Tim > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Wed Oct 14 15:32:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA08908 for freebsd-small-outgoing; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 15:32:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp04.wxs.nl (smtp04.wxs.nl [195.121.6.59]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA08895 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 15:32:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from diabolique ([195.121.58.124]) by smtp04.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with SMTP id AAB55EF for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 00:31:56 +0200 X-Sender: skywise@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Demo Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 00:34:00 +0200 To: FreeBSD Small From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai Subject: Some notes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-ID: <77189BAEC4F.AAB55EF@smtp04.wxs.nl> Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi guys, sorry to keep ye all waiting for some new documents, goals, ideas, etc which I promised, but at the moment my free time is almost non-existant. Major network problems (infrastructural), when those are over I have some new ideas and revisions to my latter statements as well as some goals I myself want to try to reach with picoBSD and thus mayhaps also for FreeBSD-CURRENT... Just to keep ye all updated, Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven / Asmodai ICQ-UIN: 1564317 .:. Ninth Circle Enterprises Network/Security Specialist /==|| FreeBSD and picoBSD, the Power to Serve ||==\ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Thu Oct 15 02:25:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA27040 for freebsd-small-outgoing; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 02:25:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from korin.warman.org.pl (korin.nask.waw.pl [148.81.160.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA27032 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 02:25:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from abial@nask.pl) Received: from localhost (abial@localhost) by korin.warman.org.pl (8.9.1/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA26441; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 11:28:52 +0200 (CEST) X-Authentication-Warning: korin.warman.org.pl: abial owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 11:28:52 +0200 (CEST) From: Andrzej Bialecki X-Sender: abial@korin.warman.org.pl To: francis yeung cc: Tim Pozar , freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ISA Aironet cards... Are they NE2000 compatible? In-Reply-To: <199810142013.NAA25507@fyeung5.netific.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi guys, > > Jonathan Steuer wrote: > > > I'm (*FINALLY* - don't ask!) in the process of getting a couple of the new > > > WaveLAN 802.11 cards, and would love to help out with this. I can also > > > scare up a 386 or 486 if that will suffice for a machine... > > > > Cliff Skolnick has been kind enought to set aside some directory space > > for me to compile a kernel with the wavelan support in it and build > > a PicoBSD floppy. I had dropped the idea with Harvie's email that the > > wavelan drives do not talk to the Aironet radios. If there is interest > > in getting a PicoBSD distribution with Wavelan support I can go ahead. Hmmm... My knowledge of this specific type of cards is NULL, but I thought we already have some driver for WaveLan cards in the tree (written by Mike Smith???). Perhaps you're talking about some other card (the wl driver is for ISA cards), in which case we'd be thrilled to see your code! In any case, better submit this type of code directly to someone who knows the driver stuff (not me!) for review and inclusion in the source tree. msmith@freebsd.org is a good person to talk with about it. Andrzej Bialecki -------------------- ++-------++ ------------------------------------- ||PicoBSD|| FreeBSD in your pocket? Go and see: Research & Academic |+-------+| "Small & Embedded FreeBSD" Network in Poland | |TT~~~| | http://www.freebsd.org/~picobsd/ -------------------- ~-+==---+-+ ------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Thu Oct 15 23:03:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA16709 for freebsd-small-outgoing; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 23:03:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles312.castles.com [208.214.167.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA16692 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 23:02:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA00926; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 23:07:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199810160607.XAA00926@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Andrzej Bialecki cc: francis yeung , Tim Pozar , freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ISA Aironet cards... Are they NE2000 compatible? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 15 Oct 1998 11:28:52 +0200." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 23:07:00 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Hi guys, > > > > Jonathan Steuer wrote: > > > > I'm (*FINALLY* - don't ask!) in the process of getting a couple of the new > > > > WaveLAN 802.11 cards, and would love to help out with this. I can also > > > > scare up a 386 or 486 if that will suffice for a machine... > > > > > > Cliff Skolnick has been kind enought to set aside some directory space > > > for me to compile a kernel with the wavelan support in it and build > > > a PicoBSD floppy. I had dropped the idea with Harvie's email that the > > > wavelan drives do not talk to the Aironet radios. If there is interest > > > in getting a PicoBSD distribution with Wavelan support I can go ahead. > > Hmmm... My knowledge of this specific type of cards is NULL, but I thought > we already have some driver for WaveLan cards in the tree (written by Mike > Smith???). Perhaps you're talking about some other card (the wl driver is > for ISA cards), in which case we'd be thrilled to see your code! The ISA Wavelan is an old animal. It's quite likely that newer Wavelans are completely different. We definitely don't have the infrastructure for 802.11 at this point in time, although it's possible someone is working on it. If someone wants to build a system with the ISA Wavelan code in it, I think they're probably going to be capable of generating a PicoBSD kernel (though there's no need to assume this). > In any case, better submit this type of code directly to someone who knows > the driver stuff (not me!) for review and inclusion in the source tree. > msmith@freebsd.org is a good person to talk with about it. If you have new driver code, or new hardware, documentation and some programming skills, then by all means give me a yell. Note that at the moment I'm not available to do contract development work, sorry. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message