From owner-freebsd-smp Tue Jun 9 14:24:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA08004 for freebsd-smp-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 14:24:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from symbion.srrc.usda.gov ([199.78.118.118]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA07905 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 14:24:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from glenn@nola.srrc.usda.gov) Received: from nola.srrc.usda.gov (localhost.srrc.usda.gov [127.0.0.1]) by symbion.srrc.usda.gov (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA27153 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 16:23:51 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from glenn@nola.srrc.usda.gov) Message-Id: <199806092123.QAA27153@symbion.srrc.usda.gov> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: smp@FreeBSD.ORG From: Glenn Johnson Subject: SMP not working anymore Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 16:23:51 -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have not been able to get an SMP kernel to boot on a dual PPro, 200MHz, Micronics motherboard. I do not know the exact model of the motherboard but can find out. The last time I was able to get an SMP kernel to boot on this system was around the end of May. It immediately locks up with the following message: panic: mpfps Base Table Hosed! Note that I am not complaining, just providing the information. I am not sure if this is a general problem with SMP right now or if it something strange with this machine. I am currently cvsupping my sources back to about May 24, 1998 to see if that will work. Thanks. -- Glenn Johnson Technician USDA, ARS, SRRC gjohnson@nola.srrc.usda.gov To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-smp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-smp Tue Jun 9 17:45:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA12270 for freebsd-smp-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 17:45:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from icicle.winternet.com (adm@icicle.winternet.com [198.174.169.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA12255 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 17:45:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mestery@mail.winternet.com) Received: (from adm@localhost) by icicle.winternet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA15236; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 19:44:54 -0500 (CDT) Received: from tundra.winternet.com(198.174.169.11) by icicle.winternet.com via smap (V2.0) id xma015165; Tue, 9 Jun 98 19:44:36 -0500 Received: from localhost (mestery@localhost) by tundra.winternet.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id TAA23019; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 19:44:35 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: tundra.winternet.com: mestery owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 19:44:35 -0500 (CDT) From: Kyle Mestery To: Glenn Johnson cc: smp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SMP not working anymore In-Reply-To: <199806092123.QAA27153@symbion.srrc.usda.gov> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 9 Jun 1998, Glenn Johnson wrote: > I have not been able to get an SMP kernel to boot on a dual PPro, 200MHz, > Micronics motherboard. I do not know the exact model of the motherboard but > can find out. The last time I was able to get an SMP kernel to boot on this > system was around the end of May. It immediately locks up with the following > message: > > panic: mpfps Base Table Hosed! > I have a dual PPro Micronics motherboard (W6-LI), and it works fine. I am running a kernel from June 3rd now, but I have tried a kernel from June 7 with no problem (including John Dyson's SMP changes). If your mptable is hosed, I wonder if something else in your BIOS is hosed maybe. -- Kyle Mestery StorageTek's Network Systems Group "I'll take what you're willing to give, and I'll teach myself to live, with a walk-on part of a background shot from a movie I'm not in." - Blink 182, "Apple Shampoo" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-smp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-smp Tue Jun 9 18:43:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA21254 for freebsd-smp-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 18:43:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA21209; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 18:42:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@duke.cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA23521; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 21:42:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA13095; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 21:42:43 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin) Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 21:42:43 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199806100142.VAA13095@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG CC: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: 440BX based SMP systems X-Mailer: VM 6.31 under 20.2 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Is anybody running FreeBSD-SMP on dual CPU intel 440BX based systems? What motherboard are you using? I've searched the mailing list archives, but it would appear these machines are new enough that nobody has tried them yet... We're considering either the Intel SE440BX "Seattle" or the Asus P2B98-DS, or a Dell Precision Workstation 410. If anybody is using one of these with FreeBSD-SMP, I'd love to hear from you. Thanks in advance, ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Andrew Gallatin, Sr Systems Programmer http://www.cs.duke.edu/~gallatin Duke University Email: gallatin@cs.duke.edu Department of Computer Science Phone: (919) 660-6590 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-smp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-smp Tue Jun 9 19:17:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA26407 for freebsd-smp-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 19:17:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from eagle.ais.net (adoane@eagle.ais.net [199.0.154.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA26390; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 19:17:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from adoane@eagle.ais.net) Received: (from adoane@localhost) by eagle.ais.net (8.8.8/AIS) id VAA22672; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 21:17:51 -0500 (CDT) From: "Andrew J. Doane" Message-Id: <199806100217.VAA22672@eagle.ais.net> Subject: Re: 440BX based SMP systems In-Reply-To: <199806100142.VAA13095@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> from Andrew Gallatin at "Jun 9, 98 09:42:43 pm" To: gallatin@cs.duke.edu (Andrew Gallatin) Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 21:17:51 -0500 (CDT) Cc: freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Is anybody running FreeBSD-SMP on dual CPU intel 440BX based systems? > What motherboard are you using? I've searched the mailing list > archives, but it would appear these machines are new enough that > nobody has tried them yet... > > We're considering either the Intel SE440BX "Seattle" or the Asus > P2B98-DS, or a Dell Precision Workstation 410. If anybody is using > one of these with FreeBSD-SMP, I'd love to hear from you. > > Thanks in advance, > I've been running a dual Tyan tiger motherboard (BX) w/400mhz processors since april 14th -- running linux, without problems. I would have run fbsd instead of linux, except i wanted the md device driver (raid0,raid5) and I'm running some quake servers on it and wanted to run native under linux. /ajd/ -- _/_/ _/ _/_/_/_/ Andrew J. Doane _/ _/ _/ _/ Director, Network Operations _/_/_/_/ _/ _/_/_/_/ American Information Systems, Inc. _/ _/ _/ _/ Email: adoane@ais.net, http://www.ais.net _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ (312) 255-8500 Voice, (312) 255-8501 Fax For my PGP public key, email me with the subject "pgp request" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-smp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-smp Tue Jun 9 21:39:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA18076 for freebsd-smp-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 21:39:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA18068 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 21:39:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA17300; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 21:38:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) To: "Andrew J. Doane" cc: gallatin@cs.duke.edu (Andrew Gallatin), freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 440BX based SMP systems In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 09 Jun 1998 21:17:51 CDT." <199806100217.VAA22672@eagle.ais.net> Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 21:38:07 -0700 Message-ID: <17297.897453487@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I've been running a dual Tyan tiger motherboard (BX) w/400mhz > processors since april 14th -- running linux, without problems. > > I would have run fbsd instead of linux, except i wanted the md > device driver (raid0,raid5) and I'm running some quake servers > on it and wanted to run native under linux. Awww. What's wrong with the ccd driver if you're doing RAID0? And haven't you heard that the Linux quake server runs faster under FreeBSD emulation? :-) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-smp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-smp Tue Jun 9 23:12:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA03501 for freebsd-smp-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 23:12:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from coleridge.kublai.com (coleridge.kublai.com [207.96.1.116]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA03480 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 23:12:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shmit@natasya.kublai.com) Received: from natasya.kublai.com (natasya.kublai.com [207.172.25.236]) by coleridge.kublai.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA29418; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 02:12:30 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from shmit@natasya.kublai.com) Received: (from shmit@localhost) by natasya.kublai.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA15896; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 02:12:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19980610021229.57129@kublai.com> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 02:12:29 -0400 From: Brian Cully To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , "Andrew J. Doane" Cc: Andrew Gallatin , freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 440BX based SMP systems Reply-To: shmit@kublai.com Mail-Followup-To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , "Andrew J. Doane" , Andrew Gallatin , freebsd-smp@freebsd.org References: <199806100217.VAA22672@eagle.ais.net> <17297.897453487@time.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <17297.897453487@time.cdrom.com>; from Jordan K. Hubbard on Tue, Jun 09, 1998 at 09:38:07PM -0700 X-Sender: If your mailer pays attention to this, it's broken. X-PGP-Info: finger shmit@kublai.com for my public key. Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Jun 09, 1998 at 09:38:07PM -0700, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > Awww. What's wrong with the ccd driver if you're doing RAID0? > And haven't you heard that the Linux quake server runs faster > under FreeBSD emulation? :-) The Linux Quake client ran substantially faster on my NetBSD box under emulation than it did under Linux. I suspect the same is true on FreeBSD as well. :-) What ever happened to timing Linux kernel builds under FreeBSD? I still have a couple of clueless 31337 Linux weens here at work and I'd love to be able to tell them to use FreeBSD to compile their kernels. :-) -- Brian Cully ``And when one of our comrades was taken prisoner, blindfolded, hung upside-down, shot, and burned, we thought to ourselves, `These are the best experiences of our lives''' -Pathology (Joe Frank, Somewhere Out There) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-smp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-smp Tue Jun 9 23:55:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA10511 for freebsd-smp-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 23:55:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sos.freebsd.dk (sos.freebsd.dk [212.242.40.180]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA10501 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 23:55:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sos@sos.freebsd.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by sos.freebsd.dk (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA01549; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 08:55:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from sos) Message-Id: <199806100655.IAA01549@sos.freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: SMP not working anymore In-Reply-To: from Kyle Mestery at "Jun 9, 98 07:44:35 pm" To: mestery@winternet.com (Kyle Mestery) Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 08:55:06 +0200 (CEST) Cc: gjohnson@nola.srrc.usda.gov, smp@FreeBSD.ORG From: Søren Schmidt Reply-to: sos@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In reply to Kyle Mestery who wrote: > On Tue, 9 Jun 1998, Glenn Johnson wrote: > > > I have not been able to get an SMP kernel to boot on a dual PPro, 200MHz, > > Micronics motherboard. I do not know the exact model of the motherboard but > > can find out. The last time I was able to get an SMP kernel to boot on this > > system was around the end of May. It immediately locks up with the following > > message: > > > > panic: mpfps Base Table Hosed! > > > I have a dual PPro Micronics motherboard (W6-LI), and it works fine. I am > running a kernel from June 3rd now, but I have tried a kernel from June 7 > with no problem (including John Dyson's SMP changes). If your mptable is > hosed, I wonder if something else in your BIOS is hosed maybe. Well I had that exact probelm with my TYAN S1662D board too, until I upgraded to TYAN latest BIOS (v5.01). The problem seem to be nonstd entries in the mp tables. However if you comment out the two panics in mp_machdep.c the system will run just fine and ignore the bogus entries... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Søren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org) FreeBSD Core Team Even more code to hack -- will it ever end? .. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-smp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-smp Wed Jun 10 00:19:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA14618 for freebsd-smp-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 00:19:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from kremvax.demos.su (kremvax.demos.su [194.87.0.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA14601; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 00:19:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sinbin.demos.su!bag@kremvax.demos.su) Received: by kremvax.demos.su (8.6.13/D) from 0@sinbin.demos.su [194.87.5.31] with ESMTP id LAA12719; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 11:16:58 +0400 Received: by sinbin.demos.su id LAA18355; (8.6.12/D) Wed, 10 Jun 1998 11:15:59 +0400 From: bag@sinbin.demos.su (Alex G. Bulushev) Message-Id: <199806100715.LAA18355@sinbin.demos.su> Subject: Re: 440BX based SMP systems In-Reply-To: <199806100142.VAA13095@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> from "Andrew Gallatin" at "Jun 9, 98 09:42:43 pm" X-ELM-OSV: (Our standard violations) no-mime=1; no-hdr-encoding=1 To: gallatin@cs.duke.edu (Andrew Gallatin) Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 11:15:59 +0400 (MSD) Cc: freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Is anybody running FreeBSD-SMP on dual CPU intel 440BX based systems? > What motherboard are you using? I've searched the mailing list > archives, but it would appear these machines are new enough that > nobody has tried them yet... > > We're considering either the Intel SE440BX "Seattle" or the Asus ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ not SMP MB SE440BX support only single PII Alex. > P2B98-DS, or a Dell Precision Workstation 410. If anybody is using > one of these with FreeBSD-SMP, I'd love to hear from you. > > Thanks in advance, > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Andrew Gallatin, Sr Systems Programmer http://www.cs.duke.edu/~gallatin > Duke University Email: gallatin@cs.duke.edu > Department of Computer Science Phone: (919) 660-6590 > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-smp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-smp Wed Jun 10 06:45:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA01588 for freebsd-smp-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 06:45:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA01574; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 06:45:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@duke.cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA01326; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 09:45:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA13952; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 09:45:24 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin) Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 09:45:24 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199806101345.JAA13952@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: bag@sinbin.demos.su (Alex G. Bulushev) Cc: freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 440BX based SMP systems In-Reply-To: <199806100715.LAA18355@sinbin.demos.su> References: <199806100142.VAA13095@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <199806100715.LAA18355@sinbin.demos.su> X-Mailer: VM 6.31 under 20.2 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Alex G. Bulushev writes: > > > > We're considering either the Intel SE440BX "Seattle" or the Asus > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ not SMP MB > SE440BX support only single PII > > Alex. Whoops. I cut & paste the wrong line. I'd meant N440BX "Nightshade." Sorry for the confusion. And thanks to everybody who has replied, I've gotten a few good recommendations. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Andrew Gallatin, Sr Systems Programmer http://www.cs.duke.edu/~gallatin Duke University Email: gallatin@cs.duke.edu Department of Computer Science Phone: (919) 660-6590 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-smp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-smp Wed Jun 10 07:05:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA05568 for freebsd-smp-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 07:05:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from eagle.ais.net (adoane@eagle.ais.net [199.0.154.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA05556 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 07:05:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from adoane@eagle.ais.net) Received: (from adoane@localhost) by eagle.ais.net (8.8.8/AIS) id JAA22749; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 09:04:58 -0500 (CDT) From: "Andrew J. Doane" Message-Id: <199806101404.JAA22749@eagle.ais.net> Subject: Re: 440BX based SMP systems In-Reply-To: <19980610021229.57129@kublai.com> from Brian Cully at "Jun 10, 98 02:12:29 am" To: shmit@kublai.com Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 09:04:58 -0500 (CDT) Cc: jkh@time.cdrom.com, adoane@ais.net, gallatin@cs.duke.edu, freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > The Linux Quake client ran substantially faster on my NetBSD box > under emulation than it did under Linux. I suspect the same is true > on FreeBSD as well. :-) Except that I'm running the dedicated server :-) I used to run a quake server under fbsd emulation about a year ago.. maybe I'll try it again. RAID5 was important to me when I built the box, but now I'm only using raid0. Anyone know if fbsd can handle more than 16 scsi devices (over 4 hosts) on a standard kernel? I'm sure I'll have to create the devices, but linux has a problem with >16 (goes from sdp back to sda instead of sdq). Its probably a 4bit number... /ajd/ -- _/_/ _/ _/_/_/_/ Andrew J. Doane _/ _/ _/ _/ Director, Network Operations _/_/_/_/ _/ _/_/_/_/ American Information Systems, Inc. _/ _/ _/ _/ Email: adoane@ais.net, http://www.ais.net _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ (312) 255-8500 Voice, (312) 255-8501 Fax For my PGP public key, email me with the subject "pgp request" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-smp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-smp Wed Jun 10 07:22:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA08480 for freebsd-smp-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 07:22:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA08466 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 07:22:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA18364; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 07:21:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) To: "Andrew J. Doane" cc: shmit@kublai.com, gallatin@cs.duke.edu, freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 440BX based SMP systems In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 10 Jun 1998 09:04:58 CDT." <199806101404.JAA22749@eagle.ais.net> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 07:21:53 -0700 Message-ID: <18361.897488513@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Anyone know if fbsd can handle more than 16 scsi devices (over 4 hosts) > on a standard kernel? I'm sure I'll have to create the devices, Yep! In later releases of sysinstall, you might even get it to see them all at installation time! ;-) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-smp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-smp Wed Jun 10 23:22:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA01982 for freebsd-smp-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 23:22:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from orcas.foghead.com (orcas.foghead.com [192.147.160.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA01931; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 23:21:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from junkins@foghead.com) Received: from localhost (junkins@localhost) by orcas.foghead.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA25457; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 23:20:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 23:20:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug Junkins X-Sender: junkins@orcas To: Andrew Gallatin cc: freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 440BX based SMP systems In-Reply-To: <199806101345.JAA13952@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Whoops. I cut & paste the wrong line. I'd meant N440BX "Nightshade." > Sorry for the confusion. > > And thanks to everybody who has replied, I've gotten a few good > recommendations. > Please summarize the responses -- there may be others (besides myself) interested as well. -Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-smp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-smp Wed Jun 10 23:39:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA04389 for freebsd-smp-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 23:39:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from antipodes.cdrom.com (castles69.castles.com [208.214.165.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA04384 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 23:39:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@antipodes.cdrom.com) Received: from antipodes.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by antipodes.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA01089; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 22:29:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199806110529.WAA01089@antipodes.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: shmit@kublai.com cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , "Andrew J. Doane" , Andrew Gallatin , freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 440BX based SMP systems In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 10 Jun 1998 02:12:29 EDT." <19980610021229.57129@kublai.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 22:29:09 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > What ever happened to timing Linux kernel builds under FreeBSD? I > still have a couple of clueless 31337 Linux weens here at work and > I'd love to be able to tell them to use FreeBSD to compile their > kernels. :-) Nobody supplied a ready-to-build Linux kernel tree for evaluation... -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-smp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-smp Thu Jun 11 09:06:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA18475 for freebsd-smp-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 09:06:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA18422; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 09:06:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@duke.cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA24573; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 12:06:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA19787; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 12:06:38 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin) Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 12:06:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199806111606.MAA19787@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Doug Junkins CC: freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 440BX based SMP systems In-Reply-To: References: <199806101345.JAA13952@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> X-Mailer: VM 6.31 under 20.2 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Doug Junkins writes: > > > > Whoops. I cut & paste the wrong line. I'd meant N440BX "Nightshade."g > > Sorry for the confusion. > > > > And thanks to everybody who has replied, I've gotten a few good > > recommendations. > > > > Please summarize the responses -- there may be others (besides myself) > interested as well. > > -Doug I heard from people running: 3 SuperMicro P6DBS w/dual 350MHz PII, running -current 1 IWill DBS100 running FreeBSD 3.0-980523-SNAP 1 dual Tyan tiger motherboard (BX) w/400mhz running linux Since I've heard negative reviews of the SuperMicro (http://www.tomshardware.com/supermicrop6dbs.html), my vendor doesn't sell the IWill, and the Tyan is running linux & not FreeBSD, I'm going to order an Asus P2B-DS. I chose the Asus because I've had good experiences with Asus boards in the past, and if I'm going to jump in blind I'll be more comfortable going with an Asus. Drew ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Andrew Gallatin, Sr Systems Programmer http://www.cs.duke.edu/~gallatin Duke University Email: gallatin@cs.duke.edu Department of Computer Science Phone: (919) 660-6590 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-smp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-smp Thu Jun 11 11:57:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA26470 for freebsd-smp-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 11:57:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.atipa.com (altrox.atipa.com [208.128.22.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA26446 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 11:57:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@atipa.com) Received: (qmail 13627 invoked by uid 1017); 11 Jun 1998 17:54:14 -0000 Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 11:54:14 -0600 (MDT) From: Atipa To: Andrew Gallatin cc: Doug Junkins , freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 440BX based SMP systems In-Reply-To: <199806111606.MAA19787@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The ASUS DS should work well, but will require the CAM driver for the onboard SCSI. It uses AIC-7890. Great board though; I'd recommend PC100/ECC DIMMS for best reliability. Single P2-400's are fast as hell. If I am not mistaken, we sent one of these boards to Steve Passe (smp@csn.net), who does much of the SMP development. If it didn't work, he probably would have returned it. Kevin On Thu, 11 Jun 1998, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > Doug Junkins writes: > > > > > > Whoops. I cut & paste the wrong line. I'd meant N440BX "Nightshade."g > > > Sorry for the confusion. > > > > > > And thanks to everybody who has replied, I've gotten a few good > > > recommendations. > > > > > > > Please summarize the responses -- there may be others (besides myself) > > interested as well. > > > > -Doug > > > I heard from people running: > > 3 SuperMicro P6DBS w/dual 350MHz PII, running -current > 1 IWill DBS100 running FreeBSD 3.0-980523-SNAP > 1 dual Tyan tiger motherboard (BX) w/400mhz running linux > > > Since I've heard negative reviews of the SuperMicro > (http://www.tomshardware.com/supermicrop6dbs.html), my vendor doesn't > sell the IWill, and the Tyan is running linux & not FreeBSD, I'm going to > order an Asus P2B-DS. I chose the Asus because I've had good > experiences with Asus boards in the past, and if I'm going to jump in > blind I'll be more comfortable going with an Asus. > > Drew > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Andrew Gallatin, Sr Systems Programmer http://www.cs.duke.edu/~gallatin > Duke University Email: gallatin@cs.duke.edu > Department of Computer Science Phone: (919) 660-6590 > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-smp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-smp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-smp Thu Jun 11 12:36:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA04931 for freebsd-smp-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 12:36:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from symbion.srrc.usda.gov ([199.78.118.118]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA04712; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 12:35:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from glenn@nola.srrc.usda.gov) Received: from nola.srrc.usda.gov (localhost.srrc.usda.gov [127.0.0.1]) by symbion.srrc.usda.gov (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA27841; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 14:35:02 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from glenn@nola.srrc.usda.gov) Message-Id: <199806111935.OAA27841@symbion.srrc.usda.gov> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: sos@FreeBSD.ORG cc: mestery@winternet.com (Kyle Mestery), smp@FreeBSD.ORG From: Glenn Johnson Subject: Re: SMP not working anymore In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 10 Jun 1998 08:55:06 +0200." <199806100655.IAA01549@sos.freebsd.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 14:34:58 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id MAA04903 Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > In reply to Kyle Mestery who wrote: >> On Tue, 9 Jun 1998, Glenn Johnson wrote: >> >>> I have not been able to get an SMP kernel to boot on a dual PPro, 200MHz, >>> Micronics motherboard. I do not know the exact model of the motherboard but >>> can find out. The last time I was able to get an SMP kernel to boot on this >>> system was around the end of May. It immediately locks up with the following >>> message: >>> >>> panic: mpfps Base Table Hosed! >>> >> I have a dual PPro Micronics motherboard (W6-LI), and it works fine. I am >> running a kernel from June 3rd now, but I have tried a kernel from June 7 >> with no problem (including John Dyson's SMP changes). If your mptable is >> hosed, I wonder if something else in your BIOS is hosed maybe. > > Well I had that exact probelm with my TYAN S1662D board too, until I > upgraded to TYAN latest BIOS (v5.01). The problem seem to be nonstd > entries in the mp tables. However if you comment out the two > panics in mp_machdep.c the system will run just fine and ignore the > bogus entries... > My system board is a W6-LI. It is a Micron Millennia system. According to the Micronics web site, I have to get a BIOS upgrade from Micron. For whatever reason, I have not been able to download the BIOS update; it gets about 18% done and then dies, consistently in the same place. I'm sure that means something. Anyway, I commented out the mpfps Base Table Hosed panic lines in mp_machdep.c but now I get "panic: no BPS" upon bootup. As I said, this system had been working fine with SMP for about a year. Any other ideas? Thanks. -- Glenn Johnson Technician USDA, ARS, SRRC gjohnson@nola.srrc.usda.gov To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-smp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-smp Thu Jun 11 13:28:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA19675 for freebsd-smp-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 13:28:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from symbion.srrc.usda.gov ([199.78.118.118]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA19641; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 13:28:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from glenn@nola.srrc.usda.gov) Received: from nola.srrc.usda.gov (localhost.srrc.usda.gov [127.0.0.1]) by symbion.srrc.usda.gov (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA28017; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 15:28:27 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from glenn@nola.srrc.usda.gov) Message-Id: <199806112028.PAA28017@symbion.srrc.usda.gov> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: smp@FreeBSD.ORG cc: sos@FreeBSD.ORG, mestery@winternet.com (Kyle Mestery) From: Glenn Johnson Subject: Re: SMP not working anymore In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 11 Jun 1998 14:34:58 CDT." <199806111935.OAA27841@symbion.srrc.usda.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 15:28:23 -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ... snip ... > >>> panic: mpfps Base Table Hosed! > >>> > >> I have a dual PPro Micronics motherboard (W6-LI), and it works fine. I am > >> running a kernel from June 3rd now, but I have tried a kernel from June 7 > >> with no problem (including John Dyson's SMP changes). If your mptable is > >> hosed, I wonder if something else in your BIOS is hosed maybe. > > > > Well I had that exact probelm with my TYAN S1662D board too, until I > > upgraded to TYAN latest BIOS (v5.01). The problem seem to be nonstd > > entries in the mp tables. However if you comment out the two > > panics in mp_machdep.c the system will run just fine and ignore the > > bogus entries... > > > > My system board is a W6-LI. It is a Micron Millennia system. According to the Micronics web site, I have to get a BIOS upgrade from Micron. For whatever reason, I have not been able to download the BIOS update; it gets about 18% done and then dies, consistently in the same place. I'm sure that means something. Anyway, I commented out the mpfps Base Table Hosed panic lines in mp_machdep.c but now I get "panic: no BPS" upon bootup. As I said, this system had been working fine with SMP for about a year. Any other ideas? Thanks. Shorty after I sent this, I finally got the BIOS image downloaded. I flashed the ROM, rebooted, and now have two PPros working again. For what it is worth, the BIOS revision I had was: PhoenixBIOS Version 4.05 W6LI-S01 (does not work with SMP) The one that I now have is: PhoenixBIOS Version 4.05 W6LI S/NH-02 (works with SMP) This may only be relevant to the Micron Millennia version but maybe this information will be of use to someone else. Would it be worth my while to try John Dyson's SMP changes? Thanks. -- Glenn Johnson Technician USDA, ARS, SRRC gjohnson@nola.srrc.usda.gov To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-smp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-smp Thu Jun 11 14:38:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA06372 for freebsd-smp-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 14:38:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dyson.iquest.net (dyson.iquest.net [198.70.144.127]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA06219; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 14:38:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dyson@dyson.iquest.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by dyson.iquest.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA02347; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 16:37:53 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from dyson) Message-Id: <199806112137.QAA02347@dyson.iquest.net> Subject: Re: SMP not working anymore In-Reply-To: <199806112028.PAA28017@symbion.srrc.usda.gov> from Glenn Johnson at "Jun 11, 98 03:28:23 pm" To: gjohnson@nola.srrc.usda.gov (Glenn Johnson) Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 16:37:53 -0500 (EST) Cc: smp@FreeBSD.ORG, sos@FreeBSD.ORG, mestery@winternet.com From: "John S. Dyson" Reply-To: dyson@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Glenn Johnson said: > > Would it be worth my while to try John Dyson's SMP changes? Thanks. > Probably not, after inspecting the PPro errata again, there are some fatal LL flaws, higher level issues notwithstanding. I will work on it, and have some major corrections on Sat this weekend. -- John | Never try to teach a pig to sing, dyson@freebsd.org | it just makes you look stupid, jdyson@nc.com | and it irritates the pig. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-smp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-smp Thu Jun 11 18:44:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA28768 for freebsd-smp-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 18:44:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fang.cs.sunyit.edu (root@fang.cs.sunyit.edu [192.52.220.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA28543; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 18:43:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from umji@cs.sunyit.edu) Received: from pirahna (A-R43.rh.sunyit.edu [150.156.210.195]) by fang.cs.sunyit.edu (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA06216; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 20:45:06 GMT Message-Id: <199806112045.UAA06216@fang.cs.sunyit.edu> X-Sender: umji@fang.cs.sunyit.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 21:43:32 -0400 To: dyson@FreeBSD.ORG From: Michael Imor Subject: Re: SMP not working anymore Cc: smp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199806112137.QAA02347@dyson.iquest.net> References: <199806112028.PAA28017@symbion.srrc.usda.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Are your modifications going into -current or are the available seperately? Mike At 04:37 PM 6/11/98 -0500, John S. Dyson wrote: >Glenn Johnson said: >> >> Would it be worth my while to try John Dyson's SMP changes? Thanks. >> >Probably not, after inspecting the PPro errata again, there are >some fatal LL flaws, higher level issues notwithstanding. > >I will work on it, and have some major corrections on Sat this >weekend. > >-- >John | Never try to teach a pig to sing, >dyson@freebsd.org | it just makes you look stupid, >jdyson@nc.com | and it irritates the pig. > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-smp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-smp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-smp Thu Jun 11 19:03:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA02892 for freebsd-smp-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 19:03:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dyson.iquest.net (dyson.iquest.net [198.70.144.127]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA02875; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 19:02:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dyson@dyson.iquest.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by dyson.iquest.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA03916; Thu, 11 Jun 1998 21:02:39 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from dyson) Message-Id: <199806120202.VAA03916@dyson.iquest.net> Subject: Re: SMP not working anymore In-Reply-To: <199806112045.UAA06216@fang.cs.sunyit.edu> from Michael Imor at "Jun 11, 98 09:43:32 pm" To: umji@cs.sunyit.edu (Michael Imor) Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 21:02:39 -0500 (EST) Cc: dyson@FreeBSD.ORG, smp@FreeBSD.ORG From: "John S. Dyson" Reply-To: dyson@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Michael Imor said: > Are your modifications going into -current or are the available seperately? > Seperately. I am not going to commit changes, unless I am extremely confident of them. -- John | Never try to teach a pig to sing, dyson@freebsd.org | it just makes you look stupid, jdyson@nc.com | and it irritates the pig. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-smp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-smp Fri Jun 12 19:40:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA13247 for freebsd-smp-outgoing; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 19:40:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from corona.jcmax.com (corona.jcmax.com [204.69.248.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA13240 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 19:40:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cr@jcmax.com) Received: by corona.jcmax.com (5.65/2.58G/4.1.3_U1) id AA17990; Fri, 12 Jun 98 22:40:22 -0400 Date: Fri, 12 Jun 98 22:40:22 -0400 From: cr@jcmax.com (Cyrus Rahman) Message-Id: <9806130240.AA17990@corona.jcmax.com> To: freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Parallel kernel builds/vnode_if.{h,c} Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I don't recall seeing any mention of this, but parallel kernel builds fail with some random chance because the files vnode_if.{c,h} get built twice, and with multiple jobs and multiple processors, frequently at the same time (so that the output of both builds is intermingled). Perhaps there is a better way of serializing the build, but the problem can be fixed by having the dependencies for each of these files instead trigger a pseudo-target, e.g.: vnode_if.c: $S/kern/vnode_if.sh $S/kern/vnode_if.src vnode_if vnode_if.h: $S/kern/vnode_if.sh $S/kern/vnode_if.src vnode_if vnode_if: sh $S/kern/vnode_if.sh $S/kern/vnode_if.src instead of what is now used: vnode_if.c: $S/kern/vnode_if.sh $S/kern/vnode_if.src sh $S/kern/vnode_if.sh $S/kern/vnode_if.src vnode_if.h: $S/kern/vnode_if.sh $S/kern/vnode_if.src sh $S/kern/vnode_if.sh $S/kern/vnode_if.src Make will then serialize the construction of the two original targets since all the work is performed through the single pseudo-target. Cyrus To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-smp" in the body of the message