From owner-freebsd-sparc Fri Mar 6 13:47:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA29546 for freebsd-sparc-outgoing; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 13:47:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from echonyc.com (echonyc.com [198.67.15.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA29539 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 13:47:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from benedict@echonyc.com) Received: from localhost (benedict@localhost) by echonyc.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA24190 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 16:47:28 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 16:47:27 -0500 (EST) From: Snob Art Genre To: sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: So I saw this "Darwin" ad in Doctor Dobb's Journal . . . Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I bought a copy of Doctor Dobb's Journal the other day and found a very cute ad announcing the availability of the $3000 desktop UltraSPARC box. This caused me to wonder -- how's the FreeBSD/SPARC port going? If/when it is completed, I will be so happy to forget everything I know about x86s. ;-) Ben "You have your mind on computers, it seems." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Fri Mar 6 14:04:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA01088 for freebsd-sparc-outgoing; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 14:04:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from keaggy.canonware.com (canonware.com [206.184.206.112]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA01068 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 14:03:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jasone@canonware.com) Received: from localhost (jasone@localhost) by keaggy.canonware.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA22575; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 14:01:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jasone@canonware.com) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 14:01:25 -0800 (PST) From: Jason Evans To: Snob Art Genre cc: sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: So I saw this "Darwin" ad in Doctor Dobb's Journal . . . In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 6 Mar 1998, Snob Art Genre wrote: > This caused me to wonder -- how's the FreeBSD/SPARC port going? Well, it's slow right now, because I got yanked on to a "high priority" project at work. Of course, the project is bigger than expected, and even though the plan was to be done a week ago, I don't expect to get clear of it for another few weeks. So, three weeks from now, we'll see how things look. I'll be moving the cvs repository to a T1 colocation in a few weeks, so that will help out once things really start rolling. Other than that, there's unfortunately not much to tell about the porting progress. =( > If/when it is completed, I will be so happy to forget everything I know > about x86s. ;-) I'll be happy that I don't have to learn everything I never knew about x86. =) Jason Jason Evans Email: [jasone@canonware.com] Home phone: [(650) 856-8204] Work phone: [(408) 774-8007] Quote: ["Invention is 1% inspiration, 99% perspiration" - Thomas Edison] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Fri Mar 6 14:10:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA01584 for freebsd-sparc-outgoing; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 14:10:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from minot.com (db@minot.com [205.218.4.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA01579 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 14:10:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from db@minot.com) Received: from localhost (db@localhost) by minot.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA02431 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 16:09:46 -0600 Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 16:09:46 -0600 (CST) From: Jeremy Kraft To: sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: So I saw this "Darwin" ad in Doctor Dobb's Journal . . . In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org i was wondering how it was going as well.. id really love to put it on my ss2. Jeremy Kraft db@minot.com --- On Fri, 6 Mar 1998, Snob Art Genre wrote: > I bought a copy of Doctor Dobb's Journal the other day and found a very > cute ad announcing the availability of the $3000 desktop UltraSPARC box. > This caused me to wonder -- how's the FreeBSD/SPARC port going? > > If/when it is completed, I will be so happy to forget everything I know > about x86s. ;-) > > > > Ben > > "You have your mind on computers, it seems." > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Fri Mar 6 14:32:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA03403 for freebsd-sparc-outgoing; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 14:32:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jeeves.egr.msu.edu (jeeves.egr.msu.edu [35.9.37.127]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA03391 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 14:32:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mcdougall@ameritech.net) Received: from ameritech.net by jeeves.egr.msu.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA18172; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 17:32:12 -0500 Message-ID: <3500796B.93E1D08@ameritech.net> Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 17:32:11 -0500 From: Adam Ryan Mcdougall X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.6 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeremy Kraft CC: sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: So I saw this "Darwin" ad in Doctor Dobb's Journal . . . References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jeremy Kraft wrote: > > i was wondering how it was going as well.. id really love to put it on > my ss2. > > Jeremy Kraft > db@minot.com > > --- I think they were shooting for the Ultra's, and not the SparcStation's, am I right? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Fri Mar 6 14:45:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA06259 for freebsd-sparc-outgoing; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 14:45:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sasami.jurai.net (winter@sasami.jurai.net [207.31.78.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA06249 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 14:45:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from winter@jurai.net) Received: from localhost (winter@localhost) by sasami.jurai.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA19798; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 17:45:28 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 17:45:27 -0500 (EST) From: "Matthew N. Dodd" To: Jeremy Kraft cc: sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: So I saw this "Darwin" ad in Doctor Dobb's Journal . . . In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 6 Mar 1998, Jeremy Kraft wrote: > i was wondering how it was going as well.. id really love to put it on > my ss2. Would it be beneficial for the sparc owners to follow the example of the (I forget his name now) lone alpha guy and begin work on porting the userland and getting it to build under NetBSD? Should we wait for the toolchain changes? /* Matthew N. Dodd | A memory retaining a love you had for life winter@jurai.net | As cruel as it seems nothing ever seems to http://www.jurai.net/~winter | go right - FLA M 3.1:53 */ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Fri Mar 6 14:48:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA06775 for freebsd-sparc-outgoing; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 14:48:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from keaggy.canonware.com (canonware.com [206.184.206.112]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA06768 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 14:48:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jasone@canonware.com) Received: from localhost (jasone@localhost) by keaggy.canonware.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA22859; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 14:45:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jasone@canonware.com) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 14:45:32 -0800 (PST) From: Jason Evans To: Adam Ryan Mcdougall cc: Jeremy Kraft , sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: So I saw this "Darwin" ad in Doctor Dobb's Journal . . . In-Reply-To: <3500796B.93E1D08@ameritech.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 6 Mar 1998, Adam Ryan Mcdougall wrote: > I think they were shooting for the Ultra's, and not the SparcStation's, > am I right? Yep. Jason Jason Evans Email: [jasone@canonware.com] Home phone: [(650) 856-8204] Work phone: [(408) 774-8007] Quote: ["Invention is 1% inspiration, 99% perspiration" - Thomas Edison] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Sat Mar 7 18:05:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA12630 for freebsd-sparc-outgoing; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 18:05:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [128.120.56.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA12625 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 18:05:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by relay.nuxi.com (8.8.7/8.6.12) id CAA17799; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 02:04:57 GMT Message-ID: <19980307180457.21339@nuxi.com> Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 18:04:57 -0800 From: "David E. O'Brien" To: "Matthew N. Dodd" Cc: Jeremy Kraft , sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: So I saw this "Darwin" ad in Doctor Dobb's Journal . . . Reply-To: obrien@NUXI.com References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88 In-Reply-To: ; from Matthew N. Dodd on Fri, Mar 06, 1998 at 05:45:27PM -0500 X-Warning: Mutt Bites! X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.5-STABLE Organization: The NUXI *BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Would it be beneficial for the sparc owners to follow the example of the > (I forget his name now) lone alpha guy and begin work on porting the > userland and getting it to build under NetBSD? Really haven't been following too closely on the Alpha work, but I thought he was commiting mostly kernel stuff, doing an interative approach to going from NetBSD to FreeBSD. Would OpenBSD be a better staring point, or NetBSD, why? Based on code availiblity (acces to CVS repository), I'd prefer OpenBSD. -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.ucdavis.edu -or- obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Sat Mar 7 18:09:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA12907 for freebsd-sparc-outgoing; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 18:09:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sasami.jurai.net (winter@sasami.jurai.net [207.31.78.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA12901 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 18:09:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from winter@jurai.net) Received: from localhost (winter@localhost) by sasami.jurai.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAA17163; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 21:08:17 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 21:08:16 -0500 (EST) From: "Matthew N. Dodd" To: "David E. O'Brien" cc: Jeremy Kraft , sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: So I saw this "Darwin" ad in Doctor Dobb's Journal . . . In-Reply-To: <19980307180457.21339@nuxi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 7 Mar 1998, David E. O'Brien wrote: > Would OpenBSD be a better staring point, or NetBSD, why? > Based on code availiblity (acces to CVS repository), I'd prefer OpenBSD. I'm fond of staying as far away from OpenBSD as possible. YMMV /* Matthew N. Dodd | A memory retaining a love you had for life winter@jurai.net | As cruel as it seems nothing ever seems to http://www.jurai.net/~winter | go right - FLA M 3.1:53 */ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Sat Mar 7 18:12:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA13104 for freebsd-sparc-outgoing; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 18:12:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [128.120.56.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA13082 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 18:11:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by relay.nuxi.com (8.8.7/8.6.12) id CAA17882; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 02:11:49 GMT Message-ID: <19980307181149.25004@nuxi.com> Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 18:11:49 -0800 From: "David E. O'Brien" To: "Matthew N. Dodd" Cc: Jeremy Kraft , sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: So I saw this "Darwin" ad in Doctor Dobb's Journal . . . Reply-To: obrien@NUXI.com References: <19980307180457.21339@nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88 In-Reply-To: ; from Matthew N. Dodd on Sat, Mar 07, 1998 at 09:08:16PM -0500 X-Warning: Mutt Bites! X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.5-STABLE Organization: The NUXI *BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Would OpenBSD be a better staring point, or NetBSD, why? > > Based on code availiblity (acces to CVS repository), I'd prefer OpenBSD. > > I'm fond of staying as far away from OpenBSD as possible. What's the reasoning? Personality of some of the OpenBSD folks? I'd rather let technical reasoning prevail here. Who is currently working on the NetBSD Sparc port? Are they accessable to answering questions if we need to ask any? -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.ucdavis.edu -or- obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Sat Mar 7 18:22:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA13750 for freebsd-sparc-outgoing; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 18:22:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mozart.canonware.com (canonware.com [206.184.206.112]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA13723 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 18:22:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jasone@canonware.com) Received: from localhost (jasone@localhost) by mozart.canonware.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA23475; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 18:21:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jasone@canonware.com) X-Authentication-Warning: mozart.canonware.com: jasone owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 18:21:50 -0800 (PST) From: Jason Evans To: "Matthew N. Dodd" cc: "David E. O'Brien" , Jeremy Kraft , sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: So I saw this "Darwin" ad in Doctor Dobb's Journal . . . In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 7 Mar 1998, Matthew N. Dodd wrote: > On Sat, 7 Mar 1998, David E. O'Brien wrote: > > Would OpenBSD be a better staring point, or NetBSD, why? > > Based on code availiblity (acces to CVS repository), I'd prefer OpenBSD. > > I'm fond of staying as far away from OpenBSD as possible. > > YMMV Why? I have mostly looked at NetBSD for help up to this point, though for no particular reason, other than that's what I looked at first. What reasons have you found for avoiding OpenBSD? Jason Jason Evans Email: [jasone@canonware.com] Home phone: [(650) 856-8204] Work phone: [(408) 774-8007] Quote: ["Invention is 1% inspiration, 99% perspiration" - Thomas Edison] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Sat Mar 7 18:35:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA14682 for freebsd-sparc-outgoing; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 18:35:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sasami.jurai.net (winter@sasami.jurai.net [207.31.78.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA14677 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 18:35:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from winter@jurai.net) Received: from localhost (winter@localhost) by sasami.jurai.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAA17552; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 21:34:34 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 21:34:33 -0500 (EST) From: "Matthew N. Dodd" To: "David E. O'Brien" cc: Jeremy Kraft , sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: So I saw this "Darwin" ad in Doctor Dobb's Journal . . . In-Reply-To: <19980307181149.25004@nuxi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 7 Mar 1998, David E. O'Brien wrote: > What's the reasoning? Personality of some of the OpenBSD folks? I'd > rather let technical reasoning prevail here. Who is currently working on > the NetBSD Sparc port? Are they accessable to answering questions if we > need to ask any? The lack of sun3, and vax is one reason and the pmax port is probably getting far less attention than the NetBSD/pmax port. /* Matthew N. Dodd | A memory retaining a love you had for life winter@jurai.net | As cruel as it seems nothing ever seems to http://www.jurai.net/~winter | go right - FLA M 3.1:53 */ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Sat Mar 7 18:37:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA14762 for freebsd-sparc-outgoing; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 18:37:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sasami.jurai.net (winter@sasami.jurai.net [207.31.78.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA14748 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 18:37:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from winter@jurai.net) Received: from localhost (winter@localhost) by sasami.jurai.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAA17578; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 21:36:22 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 21:36:21 -0500 (EST) From: "Matthew N. Dodd" To: Jason Evans cc: "David E. O'Brien" , Jeremy Kraft , sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: So I saw this "Darwin" ad in Doctor Dobb's Journal . . . In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 7 Mar 1998, Jason Evans wrote: > What reasons have you found for avoiding OpenBSD? The lack of good reasons for not avoiding OpenBSD. Splinter factions do nothing to forward *BSD's progress. /* Matthew N. Dodd | A memory retaining a love you had for life winter@jurai.net | As cruel as it seems nothing ever seems to http://www.jurai.net/~winter | go right - FLA M 3.1:53 */ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Sat Mar 7 20:31:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA25260 for freebsd-sparc-outgoing; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 20:31:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [128.120.56.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA25255 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 20:31:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by relay.nuxi.com (8.8.7/8.6.12) id EAA18161; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 04:31:14 GMT Message-ID: <19980307203114.14224@nuxi.com> Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 20:31:14 -0800 From: "David E. O'Brien" To: "Matthew N. Dodd" Cc: Jeremy Kraft , sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: So I saw this "Darwin" ad in Doctor Dobb's Journal . . . Reply-To: obrien@NUXI.com References: <19980307181149.25004@nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88 In-Reply-To: ; from Matthew N. Dodd on Sat, Mar 07, 1998 at 09:34:33PM -0500 X-Warning: Mutt Bites! X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.5-STABLE Organization: The NUXI *BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > What's the reasoning? Personality of some of the OpenBSD folks? I'd > > rather let technical reasoning prevail here. Who is currently working on > > the NetBSD Sparc port? Are they accessable to answering questions if we > > need to ask any? > > The lack of sun3, and vax is one reason and the pmax port is probably All valid reasons in general, but we are exclusively interested in sun4{u,c,m}, so those others don't make much difference. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Sat Mar 7 20:32:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA25329 for freebsd-sparc-outgoing; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 20:32:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [128.120.56.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA25317 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 20:32:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by relay.nuxi.com (8.8.7/8.6.12) id EAA18169; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 04:31:35 GMT Message-ID: <19980307203135.04460@nuxi.com> Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 20:31:35 -0800 From: "David E. O'Brien" To: "Matthew N. Dodd" Cc: Jason Evans , Jeremy Kraft , sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: So I saw this "Darwin" ad in Doctor Dobb's Journal . . . Reply-To: obrien@NUXI.com References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88 In-Reply-To: ; from Matthew N. Dodd on Sat, Mar 07, 1998 at 09:36:21PM -0500 X-Warning: Mutt Bites! X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.5-STABLE Organization: The NUXI *BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > What reasons have you found for avoiding OpenBSD? > > Splinter factions do nothing to forward *BSD's progress. Agreed, but its already happened. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message