From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 00:45:51 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA19701 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 00:45:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from st-lcremean.tidalwave.net (host-e186.tidalwave.net [208.213.203.186] (may be forged)) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA19696 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 00:45:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lee@st-lcremean.tidalwave.net) Received: (from lee@localhost) by st-lcremean.tidalwave.net (8.9.1/8.8.8) id DAA50524; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 03:45:12 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from lee) Message-ID: <19990110034512.A50497@tidalwave.net> Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 03:45:12 -0500 From: Lee Cremeans To: "David W. Chapman Jr." Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ide_pci Reply-To: lcremean@tidalwave.net References: <19990110024647.A50225@tidalwave.net> <36986304.8D1B9568@houabg.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <36986304.8D1B9568@houabg.com>; from David W. Chapman Jr. on Sun, Jan 10, 1999 at 02:21:25AM -0600 X-OS: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT X-Evil: microsoft.com Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Jan 10, 1999 at 02:21:25AM -0600, David W. Chapman Jr. wrote: > I did that to mine and it didn't work. I don't have a acer controller, my > mother is made my abit, its an abit tx5 if that helps. That's an Intel TX-based motherboard, and the UDMA is already supported for Intel stuff. You didn't say what your problem was; is it secondary channel being ignored, or timeouts on UDMA? -- +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Lee Cremeans -- Manassas, VA, USA (WakkyMouse on DALnet and WTnet)| | lcremean@tidalwave.net| http://st-lcremean.tidalwave.net/~lee | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 01:00:57 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA20993 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 01:00:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from st-lcremean.tidalwave.net (host-e186.tidalwave.net [208.213.203.186] (may be forged)) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA20988 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 01:00:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lee@st-lcremean.tidalwave.net) Received: (from lee@localhost) by st-lcremean.tidalwave.net (8.9.1/8.8.8) id EAA50622; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 04:00:19 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from lee) Message-ID: <19990110040019.A50597@tidalwave.net> Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 04:00:19 -0500 From: Lee Cremeans To: "David W. Chapman Jr." Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ide_pci Reply-To: lcremean@tidalwave.net References: <19990110024647.A50225@tidalwave.net> <36986304.8D1B9568@houabg.com> <19990110034512.A50497@tidalwave.net> <36986B22.A2A3138E@houabg.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <36986B22.A2A3138E@houabg.com>; from David W. Chapman Jr. on Sun, Jan 10, 1999 at 02:56:02AM -0600 X-OS: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT X-Evil: microsoft.com Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Jan 10, 1999 at 02:56:02AM -0600, David W. Chapman Jr. wrote: > Lee Cremeans wrote: > > > On Sun, Jan 10, 1999 at 02:21:25AM -0600, David W. Chapman Jr. wrote: > > > I did that to mine and it didn't work. I don't have a acer controller, my > > > mother is made my abit, its an abit tx5 if that helps. > > > > That's an Intel TX-based motherboard, and the UDMA is already supported for > > Intel stuff. You didn't say what your problem was; is it secondary channel > > being ignored, or timeouts on UDMA? > > > > -- > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > | Lee Cremeans -- Manassas, VA, USA (WakkyMouse on DALnet and WTnet)| > > | lcremean@tidalwave.net| http://st-lcremean.tidalwave.net/~lee | > > sorry about that, > wdc1: unit 0 (atapi): , removable, dma, > iordis > wdc1: ATAPI CD-ROMs not configured This isn't a problem with ide_pci, it's saying that you don't have ATAPI CD-ROM support in your kernel. Recompile it with device acd0 in your config file, and it should work. -- +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Lee Cremeans -- Manassas, VA, USA (WakkyMouse on DALnet and WTnet)| | lcremean@tidalwave.net| http://st-lcremean.tidalwave.net/~lee | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 01:03:00 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA21287 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 01:03:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA21282 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 01:02:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA50492 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 01:02:17 -0800 (PST) To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: /boot/boot.conf -> /boot/boot.rc Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 01:02:17 -0800 Message-ID: <50489.915958937@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Any objections to this? As it stands now, it sounds like boot.conf is a file for configuration variables (like kernel.conf) rather than a general list of commands, which is what it is. Unless there are major objections, I'll make this change before we branch. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 01:05:41 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA21427 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 01:05:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles333.castles.com [208.214.167.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA21422 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 01:05:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA04525; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 01:02:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199901100902.BAA04525@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: /boot/boot.conf -> /boot/boot.rc In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 10 Jan 1999 01:02:17 PST." <50489.915958937@zippy.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 01:02:00 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Any objections to this? As it stands now, it sounds like boot.conf is > a file for configuration variables (like kernel.conf) rather than a > general list of commands, which is what it is. Unless there are major > objections, I'll make this change before we branch. I was going to make it loader.rc, actually. If people prefer boot.rc, that's fine by me. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 01:13:18 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA21832 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 01:13:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA21827 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 01:13:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA50563; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 01:12:30 -0800 (PST) To: Mike Smith cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: /boot/boot.conf -> /boot/boot.rc In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 10 Jan 1999 01:02:00 PST." <199901100902.BAA04525@dingo.cdrom.com> Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 01:12:29 -0800 Message-ID: <50560.915959549@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I was going to make it loader.rc, actually. If people prefer boot.rc, > that's fine by me. That works for me too - just so long as it's an "rc" instead of a "conf". :) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 01:19:37 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA22283 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 01:19:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.dyn.ml.org (congo-95.ppp.hooked.net [206.169.227.95]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA22278 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 01:19:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from garbanzo@hooked.net) Received: from localhost (garbanzo@zippy.dyn.ml.org [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.dyn.ml.org (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA55803; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 01:22:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from garbanzo@hooked.net) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 01:22:25 -0800 (PST) From: Alex Zepeda X-Sender: garbanzo@zippy.dyn.ml.org To: "David W. Chapman Jr." cc: freebsd-current Subject: Re: KDE In-Reply-To: <36983B98.345FCB57@houabg.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 9 Jan 1999, David W. Chapman Jr. wrote: > Has anyone been able to compile the latest source of kde from > ftp.kde.org, I believe its version 1.1-something. Yes, I do cron'd daily builds. What problems are you having (assuming you're not using KDE from the ports tree)? - alex To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 01:41:14 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA24398 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 01:41:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.26.10.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA24391; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 01:41:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bde@godzilla.zeta.org.au) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA03915; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 20:40:20 +1100 Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 20:40:20 +1100 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199901100940.UAA03915@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: abial@nask.pl, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sysctl's as an FS Cc: msmith@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >I'm not sure if this idea has been already discussed... It occured to me >that since we need some dynamic approach to the sysctl mechanism (which >presently is static, constructed at compile time), especially when KLDs >should be able to insert/delete whole subtrees in it, why not reimplement >it in similar way to procfs? It would just move the implementation difficulties. I think it was a mistake to have a separate namespace and interfaces for sysctls, but this is hard to change now. Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 01:44:14 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA24763 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 01:44:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles333.castles.com [208.214.167.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA24757; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 01:44:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA04731; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 01:40:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199901100940.BAA04731@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Bruce Evans cc: abial@nask.pl, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, msmith@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sysctl's as an FS In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 10 Jan 1999 20:40:20 +1100." <199901100940.UAA03915@godzilla.zeta.org.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 01:40:25 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > >I'm not sure if this idea has been already discussed... It occured to me > >that since we need some dynamic approach to the sysctl mechanism (which > >presently is static, constructed at compile time), especially when KLDs > >should be able to insert/delete whole subtrees in it, why not reimplement > >it in similar way to procfs? > > It would just move the implementation difficulties. > > I think it was a mistake to have a separate namespace and interfaces for > sysctls, but this is hard to change now. Which namespace would you have preferred? -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 01:59:08 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA26069 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 01:59:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ceia.nordier.com (m2-60-dbn.dial-up.net [196.34.155.124]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA26063 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 01:59:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rnordier@nordier.com) Received: (from rnordier@localhost) by ceia.nordier.com (8.8.7/8.6.12) id LAA08468; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 11:56:43 +0200 (SAT) From: Robert Nordier Message-Id: <199901100956.LAA08468@ceia.nordier.com> Subject: Re: /boot/boot.conf -> /boot/boot.rc In-Reply-To: <50560.915959549@zippy.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at "Jan 10, 99 01:12:29 am" To: jkh@zippy.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 11:56:40 +0200 (SAT) Cc: mike@smith.net.au, current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > I was going to make it loader.rc, actually. If people prefer boot.rc, > > that's fine by me. > > That works for me too - just so long as it's an "rc" instead of a "conf". :) I like loader.rc: it's more obvious which boot component the file relates to. Since this has come up, I'd also be in favor of the following: /boot.config -> /boot/boot2.conf /boot.help -> /boot/boot2.help This makes the boot.* files seem appropriately less important (they *are* less important) and also cleans up / a little. There tends to be confusion over the function and purpose of the various new boot bits and pieces, so this is probably worth doing. -- Robert Nordier To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 02:04:16 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA26866 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 02:04:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA26810 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 02:04:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA50925; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 02:03:10 -0800 (PST) To: Robert Nordier cc: mike@smith.net.au, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: /boot/boot.conf -> /boot/boot.rc In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 10 Jan 1999 11:56:40 +0200." <199901100956.LAA08468@ceia.nordier.com> Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 02:03:09 -0800 Message-ID: <50921.915962589@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Since this has come up, I'd also be in favor of the following: > > /boot.config -> /boot/boot2.conf > /boot.help -> /boot/boot2.help Hmmmm. I thought both those files were supposed to retire? - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 02:08:24 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA27247 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 02:08:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.26.10.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA27241; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 02:08:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bde@godzilla.zeta.org.au) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA05790; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 21:07:34 +1100 Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 21:07:34 +1100 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199901101007.VAA05790@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: bde@zeta.org.au, mike@smith.net.au Subject: Re: sysctl's as an FS Cc: abial@nask.pl, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, msmith@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >> I think it was a mistake to have a separate namespace and interfaces for >> sysctls, but this is hard to change now. > >Which namespace would you have preferred? Filesystem. It's the only ASCII namespace. Who would prefer anything else? Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 02:10:21 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA27616 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 02:10:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles333.castles.com [208.214.167.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA27602 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 02:10:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA04985; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 02:06:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199901101006.CAA04985@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Robert Nordier cc: jkh@zippy.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard), mike@smith.net.au, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: /boot/boot.conf -> /boot/boot.rc In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 10 Jan 1999 11:56:40 +0200." <199901100956.LAA08468@ceia.nordier.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 02:06:21 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Since this has come up, I'd also be in favor of the following: > > /boot.config -> /boot/boot2.conf > /boot.help -> /boot/boot2.help > > This makes the boot.* files seem appropriately less important (they > *are* less important) and also cleans up / a little. > > There tends to be confusion over the function and purpose of the > various new boot bits and pieces, so this is probably worth doing. I'd remove boot.help and any support for it completely. This has become a 'wizard' function. Moving boot2.conf sounds like a good idea to me. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 02:21:46 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA28453 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 02:21:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ceia.nordier.com (m2-25-dbn.dial-up.net [196.34.155.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA28448 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 02:21:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rnordier@nordier.com) Received: (from rnordier@localhost) by ceia.nordier.com (8.8.7/8.6.12) id MAA09062; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 12:19:35 +0200 (SAT) From: Robert Nordier Message-Id: <199901101019.MAA09062@ceia.nordier.com> Subject: Re: /boot/boot.conf -> /boot/boot.rc In-Reply-To: <50921.915962589@zippy.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at "Jan 10, 99 02:03:09 am" To: jkh@zippy.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 12:19:33 +0200 (SAT) Cc: rnordier@nordier.com, mike@smith.net.au, current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > Since this has come up, I'd also be in favor of the following: > > > > /boot.config -> /boot/boot2.conf > > /boot.help -> /boot/boot2.help > > Hmmmm. I thought both those files were supposed to retire? Not really. The present boot.config is still needed to set serial options, particularly for remote administration. (The idea being that the bootblocks are more likely to survive a corruption of /, and can boot an emergency ELF or a.out kernel if necessary.) There are also a few people who feel they don't have the space for /boot/loader, and want to continue to use to use boot2 interactively, possibly in conjunction with an non-interactive kernel.gz-loading /boot/loader substitute. Most of the time, these files probably *won't* exist. However, when they *do* exist, they might as well exist under more appropriate names. -- Robert Nordier To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 02:24:39 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA28760 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 02:24:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from oitunix.oit.umass.edu (nsas100p3.remote.umass.edu [128.119.176.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA28755 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 02:24:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gp@oitunix.oit.umass.edu) Received: (from gp@localhost) by oitunix.oit.umass.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) id FAA81256; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 05:24:03 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gp) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 05:24:02 -0500 From: Greg Pavelcak To: Stephen Palmer Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Request fo help with Zip Drive on vpo0 in -current Message-ID: <19990110052402.A81076@oitunix.oit.umass.edu> References: <19990110075223.12171.qmail@www0d.netaddress.usa.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: <19990110075223.12171.qmail@www0d.netaddress.usa.net>; from Stephen Palmer on Sun, Jan 10, 1999 at 07:52:23AM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Jan 10, 1999 at 07:52:23AM +0000, Stephen Palmer wrote: > Sorry if this is redundant, but I haven't seen any new posts on this > since 1/1/99. I am still showing this problem (vpo0 detected, da0 and scbus > not detected) with sources current as of 1/9/99 5PM CST. > > Any help would be appreciated. (I'm almost to the point of bowing down to > whomever can solve this! I wish I could code as well as report :-( ) > > Stephen L. Palmer > slpalmer@netscape.net > Actually, there have been at least two developments here: 1. Adding the following to the kernel config file will fix the problem. options CAMDEBUG options "CAM_DEBUG_BUS=-1" options "CAM_DEBUG_TARGET=-1" options "CAM_DEBUG_LUN=-1" options "CAM_DEBUG_FLAGS=CAM_DEBUG_INFO|CAM_DEBUG_TRACE|CAM_DEBUG_CDB" This was reported by someone else, so don't bow to me. All I know is it worked for me. 2. Nicolas Souchu recently commited a change which he says fixes the problem, so you may want to re-sup. Good luck. Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 02:24:42 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA28776 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 02:24:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ceia.nordier.com (m2-25-dbn.dial-up.net [196.34.155.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA28753 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 02:24:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rnordier@nordier.com) Received: (from rnordier@localhost) by ceia.nordier.com (8.8.7/8.6.12) id MAA09078; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 12:22:30 +0200 (SAT) From: Robert Nordier Message-Id: <199901101022.MAA09078@ceia.nordier.com> Subject: Re: /boot/boot.conf -> /boot/boot.rc In-Reply-To: <199901101006.CAA04985@dingo.cdrom.com> from Mike Smith at "Jan 10, 99 02:06:21 am" To: mike@smith.net.au (Mike Smith) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 12:22:28 +0200 (SAT) Cc: rnordier@nordier.com, jkh@zippy.cdrom.com, mike@smith.net.au, current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike Smith wrote: > > Since this has come up, I'd also be in favor of the following: > > > > /boot.config -> /boot/boot2.conf > > /boot.help -> /boot/boot2.help > > > > This makes the boot.* files seem appropriately less important (they > > *are* less important) and also cleans up / a little. > > > > There tends to be confusion over the function and purpose of the > > various new boot bits and pieces, so this is probably worth doing. > > I'd remove boot.help and any support for it completely. This has > become a 'wizard' function. Moving boot2.conf sounds like a good idea > to me. That seems reasonable. The boot.help file is not currently being built anyway, since biosboot was excluded. -- Robert Nordier To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 02:25:50 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA29031 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 02:25:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp03.wxs.nl (smtp03.wxs.nl [195.121.6.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA29023 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 02:25:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.56.4]) by smtp03.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA3BB7; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 11:25:11 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <19990110075223.12171.qmail@www0d.netaddress.usa.net> Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 11:32:46 +0100 (CET) Organization: Ninth Circle Enterprises From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: Stephen Palmer , Stephen Palmer , FreeBSD Current Subject: Re: Request fo help with Zip Drive on vpo0 in -current Cc: son@teaser.fr Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 10-Jan-99 Stephen Palmer wrote: > Sorry if this is redundant, but I haven't seen any new posts on this > since 1/1/99. I am still showing this problem (vpo0 detected, da0 and > scbus not detected) with sources current as of 1/9/99 5PM CST. > Any help would be appreciated. (I'm almost to the point of bowing down to > whomever can solve this! I wish I could code as well as report :-( ) Well, I having problems with this as well, and am going to try the flags Nicolas suggested. Did you try that? --- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven A veil of smoke is what I am, asmodai(at)wxs.nl I wait and I wait... Network/Security Specialist BSD & picoBSD: The Power to Serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 02:27:39 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA29231 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 02:27:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA29226 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 02:27:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA51116; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 02:26:36 -0800 (PST) To: Robert Nordier cc: mike@smith.net.au, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: /boot/boot.conf -> /boot/boot.rc In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 10 Jan 1999 12:19:33 +0200." <199901101019.MAA09062@ceia.nordier.com> Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 02:26:35 -0800 Message-ID: <51112.915963995@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > The present boot.config is still needed to set serial options, > particularly for remote administration. (The idea being that the > bootblocks are more likely to survive a corruption of /, and can > boot an emergency ELF or a.out kernel if necessary.) OK, a fair point. > Most of the time, these files probably *won't* exist. However, when > they *do* exist, they might as well exist under more appropriate > names. Hmmm. How about a compromise, since I'm still hung up on the POLA argument for legacy users of boot2? Have it look in both locations, /boot/boot2.conf being first, and don't print an error message if it can't find one of them. Would that be too many speculative reads? - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 02:39:36 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA29849 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 02:39:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from st-lcremean.tidalwave.net (host-e186.tidalwave.net [208.213.203.186] (may be forged)) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA29844 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 02:39:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lee@st-lcremean.tidalwave.net) Received: (from lee@localhost) by st-lcremean.tidalwave.net (8.9.1/8.8.8) id FAA50999; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 05:38:53 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from lee) Message-ID: <19990110053853.A50994@tidalwave.net> Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 05:38:53 -0500 From: Lee Cremeans To: lh@aus.org Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ide_pci I'll volunteer Reply-To: lcremean@tidalwave.net References: <19990110024647.A50225@tidalwave.net> <199901101011.FAA19066@ayukawa.aus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <199901101011.FAA19066@ayukawa.aus.org>; from Luke on Sun, Jan 10, 1999 at 05:30:41AM -0500 X-OS: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT X-Evil: microsoft.com Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Jan 10, 1999 at 05:30:41AM -0500, Luke wrote: > I'll gladly test anything :) i have 1 asus acer chipset board and > access to a microstar one. I'll grab the patches and try them. Is there any > info you would want from their use? Also is there a flag to make it debug / > boot verbosely about it? Sure...on the UDMA front, I need people to see if their systems will boot without getting interrupt timeout messages on their screens. For the other things, well, I mostly have those ironed out. -- +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Lee Cremeans -- Manassas, VA, USA (WakkyMouse on DALnet and WTnet)| | lcremean@tidalwave.net| http://st-lcremean.tidalwave.net/~lee | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 02:43:46 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA00415 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 02:43:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ceia.nordier.com (m1-49-dbn.dial-up.net [196.34.155.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA00406 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 02:43:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rnordier@nordier.com) Received: (from rnordier@localhost) by ceia.nordier.com (8.8.7/8.6.12) id MAA09609; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 12:41:39 +0200 (SAT) From: Robert Nordier Message-Id: <199901101041.MAA09609@ceia.nordier.com> Subject: Re: /boot/boot.conf -> /boot/boot.rc In-Reply-To: <51112.915963995@zippy.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at "Jan 10, 99 02:26:35 am" To: jkh@zippy.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 12:41:36 +0200 (SAT) Cc: rnordier@nordier.com, mike@smith.net.au, current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > Hmmm. How about a compromise, since I'm still hung up on the POLA > argument for legacy users of boot2? Have it look in both locations, > /boot/boot2.conf being first, and don't print an error message if it > can't find one of them. Would that be too many speculative reads? I'd be happy with that. Though I'd prefer to make this a transitional measure, say to be dropped before the 3.2 release (or whenever). There's only 7K available for boot2 (with, for example, 144 bytes of free space at the moment). Even a new version of gcc may reduce to a negative value. -- Robert Nordier To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 02:44:20 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA00681 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 02:44:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from st-lcremean.tidalwave.net (host-e186.tidalwave.net [208.213.203.186] (may be forged)) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA00673 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 02:44:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lee@st-lcremean.tidalwave.net) Received: (from lee@localhost) by st-lcremean.tidalwave.net (8.9.1/8.8.8) id FAA51026; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 05:43:38 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from lee) Message-ID: <19990110054338.B50994@tidalwave.net> Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 05:43:38 -0500 From: Lee Cremeans To: lh@aus.org, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ide_pci I'll volunteer Reply-To: lcremean@tidalwave.net References: <19990110024647.A50225@tidalwave.net> <199901101011.FAA19066@ayukawa.aus.org> <19990110053853.A50994@tidalwave.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <19990110053853.A50994@tidalwave.net>; from Lee Cremeans on Sun, Jan 10, 1999 at 05:38:53AM -0500 X-OS: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT X-Evil: microsoft.com Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Jan 10, 1999 at 05:38:53AM -0500, Lee Cremeans wrote: > On Sun, Jan 10, 1999 at 05:30:41AM -0500, Luke wrote: > > > I'll gladly test anything :) i have 1 asus acer chipset board and > > access to a microstar one. I'll grab the patches and try them. Is there any > > info you would want from their use? Also is there a flag to make it debug / > > boot verbosely about it? > > Sure...on the UDMA front, I need people to see if their systems will boot > without getting interrupt timeout messages on their screens. For the other > things, well, I mostly have those ironed out. Aw damn...I just took another look at the diffs I made, and they aren't complete :/ I'll fix this tomorrow, after I've had some sleep. -- +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Lee Cremeans -- Manassas, VA, USA (WakkyMouse on DALnet and WTnet)| | lcremean@tidalwave.net| http://st-lcremean.tidalwave.net/~lee | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 02:44:56 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA00733 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 02:44:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles333.castles.com [208.214.167.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA00728 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 02:44:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA05216; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 02:40:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199901101040.CAA05216@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Robert Nordier cc: mike@smith.net.au (Mike Smith), jkh@zippy.cdrom.com, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: /boot/boot.conf -> /boot/boot.rc In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 10 Jan 1999 12:22:28 +0200." <199901101022.MAA09078@ceia.nordier.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 02:40:53 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Mike Smith wrote: > > > > I'd remove boot.help and any support for it completely. This has > > become a 'wizard' function. Moving boot2.conf sounds like a good idea > > to me. > > That seems reasonable. The boot.help file is not currently being > built anyway, since biosboot was excluded. Jordan actually makes a good case for not moving boot.config - POLA. I'd have to agree with him there; while it'd be tidier to have it out of the way, in those cases where it's necessary, it'd be better to leave it where it is. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 04:01:01 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA11307 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 04:01:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from news.IAEhv.nl (news.IAEhv.nl [194.151.64.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA11088 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 04:00:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marc@bowtie.nl) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by news.IAEhv.nl (8.9.1/8.9.1) with IAEhv.nl id NAA06334; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 13:00:06 +0100 (MET) Received: (from marc@localhost) by bowtie.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA23183; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 12:57:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc) Message-ID: <19990110125721.45925@nietzsche.intra.bowtie.nl> Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 12:57:21 +0100 From: Marc van Kempen To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: State of the union, 1999. References: <49859.915950870@zippy.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69e In-Reply-To: <49859.915950870@zippy.cdrom.com>; from Jordan K. Hubbard on Sat, Jan 09, 1999 at 10:47:50PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [snip] > There is also substantial work underway with the VM system and the > filesystem code, much of which is either being tested quietly in small > groups (Dillon/Dyson/Greenman) or is awaiting the 4.0 branch event, > still scheduled for January 15th, 1999. In other areas, we have > Kazu's very welcome total redesign of the console driver coming into > -current along with USB support, courtesy of Nick Hibma and others. > This is just to name a few of the projects underway and I don't mean > to slight anyone by not mentioning theirs directly, these are just 3 I was just wondering, while reading about this new stuff, how about some info on the new pkg system, or is the info online already somewhere? Thanks, Marc. -- ---------------------------------------------------- Marc van Kempen BowTie Technology Email: marc@bowtie.nl WWW & Databases tel. +31 40 2 43 20 65 fax. +31 40 2 44 21 86 http://www.bowtie.nl ---------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 04:06:58 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA13295 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 04:06:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ren.dtir.qld.gov.au (ns.detir.qld.gov.au [203.46.81.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA13287; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 04:06:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from syssgm@dtir.qld.gov.au) Received: by ren.dtir.qld.gov.au; id WAA25117; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 22:05:45 +1000 (EST) Received: from ogre.dtir.qld.gov.au(167.123.8.3) by ren.dtir.qld.gov.au via smap (3.2) id xma025115; Sun, 10 Jan 99 22:05:25 +1000 Received: from atlas.dtir.qld.gov.au (atlas.dtir.qld.gov.au [167.123.8.9]) by ogre.dtir.qld.gov.au (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA21961; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 22:05:25 +1000 (EST) Received: from nymph.dtir.qld.gov.au (nymph.dtir.qld.gov.au [167.123.10.10]) by atlas.dtir.qld.gov.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA26941; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 22:05:24 +1000 (EST) Received: from nymph.dtir.qld.gov.au (localhost.dtir.qld.gov.au [127.0.0.1]) by nymph.dtir.qld.gov.au (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA21649; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 22:05:22 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from syssgm@nymph.dtir.qld.gov.au) Message-Id: <199901101205.WAA21649@nymph.dtir.qld.gov.au> To: dg@FreeBSD.ORG cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, syssgm@dtir.qld.gov.au Subject: Hangs on "inode" and "thrd_sleep" Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 22:05:22 +1000 From: Stephen McKay Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG My test machine hung last night during 'make -j5 buildworld' with 7 processes in "thrd_sleep" and 2 in "inode". Thus began a marathon DDB session (punctuated by some reluctant sleep). The machine is a 486DX2/66 with 16Mb ram, AHA1542CF, 1Gb hard disk, kernel from 29/12/98, compiling current from yesterday, elf binaries, elf kernel, softupdates. No NFS involved. Plenty of swap, and with only 16Mb ram and parallel builds it does an awful lot of paging. The last visible bit of the compilation log went like this: cc -fpic -DPIC ... alias_util.so building profiled alias library building standard alias library building shared alias library (version 2) Since it was a parallel make, possibly all 3 library builds are running in parallel. Certainly there are 3 tsort and 3 nm processes active (well, they would be if the whole thing wasn't wedged). The processes in "thrd_sleep" are trying to lock exec_map. Exec_map has 1 shared lock, 7 waiting, and LK_NOPAUSE LK_SHARE_NON_ZERO LK_WAIT_NON_ZERO and LK_WANT_EXCL set. Where's the missing process with the shared lock? The processes in "inode" are trying to lock the inode that refers to the vnode that is "/usr/obj/elf/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin/sed". There is 1 shared lock and 2 waiting, and LK_SHARE_NON_ZERO LK_WAIT_NON_ZERO and LK_WANT_EXCL set. Similarly, where is the missing process with the shared lock? Well, the exec_map contains 6 entries. Three are largish and must be from argument copying. The other 3 are single pages, and must come from that peculiar double-mapping-of-the-text-data-boundary bit in elf_load_section(). Two of these pages are from the same "sed" vnode that the processes stuck in "inode" want. Of course, what I really should be saying is that the same page is in exec_map in two places. The problem was not lack of free pages. The free list has hundreds of free pages. I'd like to say I've got to the bottom of all this and add another one line patch to the kernel, but I've run out of puff. I'll be leaving the machine on (and stuck) for a while and will try again to determine the root cause. But I will ask: What is likely to happen if two processes attempt to exec the same binary at the same time and the binary is not in core? The only place I can find that issues a shared lock on exec_map is the vm_fault() (via vm_map_lookup()) to fill that double mapped text/data page. Everything else seems to want an exclusive lock. Thus I point my finger vaguely in the direction of the elf exec code and yell "Witch! Burn her!" What else can I discover from my hung 486 that could help diagnose this? I've only got DDB and stupidly disconnected my serial console setup. Stephen. PS Finding the name of a vnode from the name cache using ddb is slow and painful. What's the easy way? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 04:25:03 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA15148 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 04:25:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA15139 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 04:25:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id EAA51670; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 04:11:03 -0800 (PST) To: Marc van Kempen cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: State of the union, 1999. In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 10 Jan 1999 12:57:21 +0100." <19990110125721.45925@nietzsche.intra.bowtie.nl> Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 04:11:03 -0800 Message-ID: <51666.915970263@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I was just wondering, while reading about this new stuff, how about > some info on the new pkg system, or is the info online already somewhere? I know we've been a bit remiss in releasing information like this, but that's mostly because much of our doc is either still at the "pre-draft" stage or has become swiftly outdated and needs updating before more general release. Since so many more people are asking, I'll make dealing with this a higher priority for late-January (the middle is already sort of crowded right now :). - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 04:39:49 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA16774 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 04:39:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Terry.Dorm10.NCTU.edu.tw (Terry.Dorm10.NCTU.edu.tw [140.113.122.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA16762 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 04:39:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ijliao@Terry.Dorm10.NCTU.edu.tw) Received: (from ijliao@localhost) by Terry.Dorm10.NCTU.edu.tw (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA00768; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 20:32:19 +0800 (CST) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 20:32:19 +0800 From: Ying-Chieh Liao To: lcremean@tidalwave.net Cc: Kenneth Wayne Culver , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ide_pci Message-ID: <19990110203219.A743@terry.dragon2.net> References: <19990110024647.A50225@tidalwave.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: <19990110024647.A50225@tidalwave.net>; from "Lee Cremeans" on Sun, Jan 10, 1999 at 02:46:47 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Jan 10, 1999 at 02:46:47 -0500, Lee Cremeans wrote: > I was one of the people working on stuff for this board; I got around the > BMISTA_SIMPLEX bug by disabling the check for it, first with > > options DISABLE_PCI_IDE i have a question : since this options can solve 2nd ide channel problem, why not introduce this options in LINT ? -- mailto:ijliao@dragon2.net?subject="send pgp key" to get my pgp public key key finger print : FA 38 7E 91 FA 22 FA F6 63 04 E3 B5 A1 9F 0C CD To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 04:54:30 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA17895 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 04:54:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pc116s119r1.jancomulti.com (pc116s119r1.jancomulti.com [195.139.119.116]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA17884 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 04:54:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from paalsom@ifi.uio.no) Received: from ifi.uio.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pc116s119r1.jancomulti.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA00337 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 13:50:53 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from paalsom@ifi.uio.no) Message-ID: <3698A22D.FC705781@ifi.uio.no> Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 13:50:53 +0100 From: "Pål Sommerhein" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: 3.0.0-19990106-SNAP, signal 11 caught Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi When trying to install the 3.0.0-19990106-SNAP version from current.freebsd.org I get a signal 11 in the very last stage of the installation. That is, when I answer yes to the last step: This is your last chance, are you sure ... The message coming up reads: A signal 11 was caught - I'm saving what I can and shutting. If you can reproduce the problem, please turn Debug on in the Options menu for the extra information it provides in debugging problems like this. To be sure it was not a bad copy of the boot.flp image, I downloaded a fresh image and rawcopied it to the floppy disk. This time I turned the debugging on. Again I got the same signal 11 caught message. The Debug window (Alt-F2) read: (SNIP) XServer:3000000, XFonts: 3f, XDists: 18593 Debug: installCommit: System state is 'novice' Debug: Setting variable _diskPartioned to yes Debug: diskPartionWrite Examining 2 devices Debug: bootalloc: can't stat /boot/boot1 Debug: bootalloc: can't stat /boot/boot1 Debug: Signal 11 caught! That's bad! My hardware: ------------ Mainboard: ASUS P2B-DS with onboard Adaptec 7890 SCSI controller Harddisk: IBM SCSI, Ultrastar 9ES, 4.5GB, 7.5ms, 512KB, UW-SCSI, 7200 Graphics card: Matrox Productiva G100, 8MB Network card: 3Com-900XL connected to cable modem. + standard floppy drive Any help with this problem would be appreciated. Best regards, Paal Sommerhein To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 05:07:36 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA19094 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 05:07:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from crap.31337.net (node1484.a2000.nl [62.108.20.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA19087 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 05:07:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from alexlh@funk.org) Received: from p.funk.org (nose.funk.org [194.109.86.229]) by crap.31337.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA23046 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 13:13:05 GMT (envelope-from alexlh@funk.org) Received: from funk.org (localhost.a2000.nl [127.0.0.1]) by p.funk.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA02141 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 14:06:30 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from alexlh@funk.org) Message-ID: <3698A5D5.7ED3C61D@funk.org> Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 14:06:29 +0100 From: Alex Le Heux X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: defs and dynamic majors Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Am I correct in assuming that devfs is eventually going to replace /dev? If it is, shouldn't it also be able to dynamically allocate major device numbers to for example kld-loaded devices? (if devfs can already do this, please beat me over the head with a pointer) Alex To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 05:22:00 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA19919 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 05:22:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cassiopeia.hkstar.com (cassiopeia.hkstar.com [202.82.3.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA19914 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 05:21:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from c5666305@hkstar.com) Received: from b1.hkstar.com (b1.hkstar.com [202.82.0.87]) by cassiopeia.hkstar.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA21443 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 21:21:22 +0800 (HKT) Received: from localhost (c5666305@localhost) by b1.hkstar.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA10440 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 21:21:20 +0800 (HKT) X-Authentication-Warning: b1.hkstar.com: c5666305 owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 21:21:20 +0800 (HKT) From: Chan Yiu Wah To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: how to play with pci128 sound card Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I recenty got a pci128 sound card (creatative lab) and I don't konw how play with it. I tried to configure it so that it can be reconigzed by the system. Which driver should I use ? Can anyone show me his config file and how to build the device files in /dev. Thanks. Clarence To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 05:27:20 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA20347 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 05:27:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA20340 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 05:27:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id MAA16438; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 12:21:02 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199901101121.MAA16438@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: how to play with pci128 sound card To: c5666305@hkstar.com (Chan Yiu Wah) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 12:21:02 +0100 (MET) Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Chan Yiu Wah" at Jan 10, 99 09:21:01 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I recenty got a pci128 sound card (creatative lab) and I don't konw how > play with it. I tried to configure it so that it can be reconigzed by > the system. Which driver should I use ? Can anyone show me his config > file and how to build the device files in /dev. Thanks. you need a -current system with the "pcm" device, then cd /dev ./MAKEDEV snd1 and cat somefile > /dev/audio should produce some audible noise. luigi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 05:40:33 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA21696 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 05:40:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA21654; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 05:40:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from localhost (dfr@localhost) by nlsystems.com (8.9.1/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA00662; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 13:11:47 GMT Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 13:11:47 +0000 (GMT) From: Doug Rabson To: Stephen Palmer cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG, son@teaser.fr, Jos M Alcaide , gp@oitunix.oit.umass.edu Subject: Re: Request fo help with Zip Drive on vpo0 in -current In-Reply-To: <19990110075223.12171.qmail@www0d.netaddress.usa.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 10 Jan 1999, Stephen Palmer wrote: > Sorry if this is redundant, but I haven't seen any new posts on this > since 1/1/99. I am still showing this problem (vpo0 detected, da0 and scbus > not detected) with sources current as of 1/9/99 5PM CST. > > Any help would be appreciated. (I'm almost to the point of bowing down to > whomever can solve this! I wish I could code as well as report :-( ) I made a fix for this yesterday and Nick comitted it. Try a new version of vpo.c. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 05:41:00 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA21875 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 05:41:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA21848 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 05:40:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from localhost (dfr@localhost) by nlsystems.com (8.9.1/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA00595; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 12:40:44 GMT Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 12:40:44 +0000 (GMT) From: Doug Rabson To: Christian Kuhtz cc: "John W. DeBoskey" , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make release failure: kld In-Reply-To: <19990109200535.A78140@oreo.adsu.bellsouth.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 9 Jan 1999, Christian Kuhtz wrote: > On Sat, Jan 09, 1999 at 05:46:39PM -0500, John W. DeBoskey wrote: > > install -c -o root -g wheel -m 644 kld/Makefile /snap/release/usr/share/examples/kld/Makefile > > install -c -o root -g wheel -m 644 kld/syscall/module/Makefile /snap/release/usr/share/examples/kld/syscall/module/Makefile > > install: /snap/release/usr/share/examples/kld/syscall/module/Makefile: No such file or directory > > *** Error code 71 > > > > Stop. > > *** Error code 1 > > Neither /usr/share/examples/kld/syscall/module/, nor > /usr/share/examples/kld/syscall/test/ > are created if they don't exist prior to a make world.. You probably just need to do a 'cvs update -Pd'. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 05:58:40 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA22866 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 05:58:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from awfulhak.org (awfulhak.force9.co.uk [195.166.136.63]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA22857 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 05:58:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (root@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org [172.16.0.8]) by awfulhak.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA13597 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 13:57:14 GMT (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (brian@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA00734 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 13:58:25 GMT (envelope-from brian@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <199901101358.NAA00734@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Incorrect EAGAIN & select() exceptions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 13:58:25 +0000 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Something weird is happening in -current. I installed world, a kernel and bootblocks on Jan 6 - I can't say for sure that it wasn't happening before this as I usually do all ppp testing via the loopback interface on a single machine for convenience. Yesterday, I tried using ppp on the above -current via a tty and got two weird results, both happen at random intervals, but are reasonably easy to reproduce. 1. I select() on a tty descriptor for reading (and writing & exceptions). Select comes back with the read descriptor set, I do a read() and get -1 with errno EAGAIN. This must be wrong ! 2. I select() on a tty descriptor for reading, writing and exceptions and get the exception fd_set bit set. This has never happened before, and it was only a few weeks ago that I even had ppp not always abend when an exception is detected. Does anybody know what's going on (before I look into things further) ? Help would be appreciated if anyone has any su{spicions,gestions}. Cheers. -- Brian Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 06:14:50 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA24562 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 06:14:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from asteroid.svib.ru (asteroid.svib.ru [195.151.166.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA24554 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 06:14:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tarkhil@asteroid.svib.ru) Received: from minas-tirith.pol.ru (root@shuttle.svib.ru [195.151.166.144]) by asteroid.svib.ru (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA20200 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 17:14:11 +0300 (MSK) Received: from minas-tirith.pol.ru (tarkhil@minas-tirith.pol.ru [127.0.0.1]) by minas-tirith.pol.ru (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA06039 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 17:14:51 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from tarkhil@minas-tirith.pol.ru) Message-Id: <199901101414.RAA06039@minas-tirith.pol.ru> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: tarkhil@asteroid.svib.ru Subject: What can it be? X-URL: http://freebsd.svib.ru Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 17:14:51 +0300 From: Alex Povolotsky Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello! Since I've upgraded (by installation from CD) my 3.0-Febraury snap to 3.0-RELEASE, some programs became to fail with X Error of failed request: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation) Major opcode of failed request: 45 (X_OpenFont) Serial number of failed request: 12149 Current serial number in output stream: 12150 error. What could I have screwed up? What should I check? Alex. -- Alexander B. Povolotsky [ICQ 18277558] [2:5020/145] [http://freebsd.svib.ru] [tarkhil@asteroid.svib.ru] [Urgent messages: 234-9696 ÁÂ.#35442 or tarkhil@pager.express.ru] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 06:46:14 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA27419 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 06:46:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from awfulhak.org (awfulhak.force9.co.uk [195.166.136.63]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA27412 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 06:46:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (root@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org [172.16.0.8]) by awfulhak.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA14211; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 14:11:52 GMT (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (brian@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA05707; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 13:03:52 GMT (envelope-from brian@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <199901101303.NAA05707@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: State of the union, 1999. In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 09 Jan 1999 22:47:50 PST." <49859.915950870@zippy.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 13:03:51 +0000 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [.....] > people. We can also produce more marketing periphenalia like buttons, > stickers, new T-shirts, etc. to give people a wider array of stuff to > proudly point to in support of the "emerging FreeBSD phenomenon." [.....] How about some non-geeky paraphernalia (your mailer doesn't do spell checking, does it ?) ? I can't see myself ever wearing a FreeBSD T-Shirt or peaked cap, but I'd certainly invest in a few mouse mats or mugs. I'd be happy to take them into work too, thus ``promoting the cause''. Given the $$$s (or a volunteer), you could also organise one or more FreeBSD screensavers that run under Windoze. People that are stuck running windows at work - I'm required to run Lotus Notes :-/ - can then do their bit too. > - Jordan -- Brian Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 07:16:25 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA00616 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 07:16:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from www0l.netaddress.usa.net (www0l.netaddress.usa.net [204.68.24.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA00608 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 07:16:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from slpalmer@netscape.net) Received: (qmail 15938 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Jan 1999 15:16:30 -0000 Message-ID: <19990110151630.15937.qmail@www0l.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.24.41 by www0l via web-mailer(R2.6) on Sun Jan 10 15:16:30 GMT 1999 Date: 10 Jan 99 15:16:30 America/Fort_Wayne From: Stephen Palmer To: dfr@nlsystems.com Subject: Re: [Re: Request fo help with Zip Drive on vpo0 in -current] CC: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id HAA00611 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've cvsupped again this morning (9AM CST 1/10/98) and now get the following in a 'make depend' of the kernel. Did I miss a step? Stephen L. Palmer slpalmer@netscape.net ../../dev/ppbus/nlpt.c:87: opt_nlpt.h: No such file or directory ../../dev/ppbus/ppb_1284.c:34: opt_ppb_1284.h: No such file or directory ../../dev/ppbus/ppbconf.c:40: opt_ppb_1284.h: No such file or directory ../../dev/ppbus/ppi.c:46: opt_ppb_1284.h: No such file or directory ../../dev/ppbus/vpo.c:54: opt_vpo.h: No such file or directory ../../dev/ppbus/vpoio.c:44: opt_vpo.h: No such file or directory ../../dev/ppbus/immio.c:50: opt_vpo.h: No such file or directory ../../i386/isa/ppc.c:52: opt_ppc.h: No such file or directory mkdep: compile failed *** Error code 1 Stop. dfr@nlsystems.com wrote: > On 10 Jan 1999, Stephen Palmer wrote: > > > Sorry if this is redundant, but I haven't seen any new posts on this > > since 1/1/99. I am still showing this problem (vpo0 detected, da0 and scbus > > not detected) with sources current as of 1/9/99 5PM CST. > > > > Any help would be appreciated. (I'm almost to the point of bowing down to > > whomever can solve this! I wish I could code as well as report :-( ) > > I made a fix for this yesterday and Nick comitted it. Try a new version > of vpo.c. > > -- > Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com > Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 > --- | Stephen L. Palmer | Sprint Paranet slpalmer@netscape.net \|/ slpalmer@sprintparanet.com "There are thousands of intelligent species in the Universe, and they all own cats." -Unknown ____________________________________________________________________ More than just email--Get your FREE Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/netcenter/mail To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 07:25:46 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA01967 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 07:25:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA01960 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 07:25:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from localhost (dfr@localhost) by nlsystems.com (8.9.1/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA01021; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 15:24:46 GMT Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 15:24:46 +0000 (GMT) From: Doug Rabson To: Stephen Palmer cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Re: Request fo help with Zip Drive on vpo0 in -current] In-Reply-To: <19990110151630.15937.qmail@www0l.netaddress.usa.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 10 Jan 1999, Stephen Palmer wrote: > I've cvsupped again this morning (9AM CST 1/10/98) and now get the > following in a 'make depend' of the kernel. Did I miss a step? > > Stephen L. Palmer > slpalmer@netscape.net > > ../../dev/ppbus/nlpt.c:87: opt_nlpt.h: No such file or directory > ../../dev/ppbus/ppb_1284.c:34: opt_ppb_1284.h: No such file or directory > ../../dev/ppbus/ppbconf.c:40: opt_ppb_1284.h: No such file or directory > ../../dev/ppbus/ppi.c:46: opt_ppb_1284.h: No such file or directory > ../../dev/ppbus/vpo.c:54: opt_vpo.h: No such file or directory > ../../dev/ppbus/vpoio.c:44: opt_vpo.h: No such file or directory > ../../dev/ppbus/immio.c:50: opt_vpo.h: No such file or directory > ../../i386/isa/ppc.c:52: opt_ppc.h: No such file or directory > mkdep: compile failed > *** Error code 1 I didn't change anything like that. From the looks of it, you need to re-run config(8) before retrying 'make depend'. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 07:26:15 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA02149 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 07:26:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp01.wxs.nl (smtp01.wxs.nl [195.121.6.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA02131 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 07:26:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.57.96]) by smtp01.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA4244; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 16:25:32 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199901100446.UAA03176@dingo.cdrom.com> Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 16:33:03 +0100 (CET) Organization: Ninth Circle Enterprises From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: Mike Smith Subject: Re: boot single with new loader? Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, jake@checker.org, dillon@apollo.backplane.com, Luoqi Chen Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 10-Jan-99 Mike Smith wrote: >> I have a modified version of tunefs which allows you to enable/disable >> softupdates on root partition in single user mode. You don't even need >> to reboot after you've run tunefs, you can simple exit the single user >> shell, boot into multiuser mode and you root partition is softupdate >> mounted. The patch is available at http://www.freebsd.org/~luoqi/ . > > Any reason you don't want to commit this? Dumb question, what if the softupdates enabled kernel fails to load and ye have to resort to a kernel without softupdates and / is enabled with softupdates, does the softupdate stub catch that off and simply back out into normal FFS behaviour? --- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven A veil of smoke is what I am, asmodai(at)wxs.nl I wait and I wait... Network/Security Specialist BSD & picoBSD: The Power to Serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 07:31:05 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA02470 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 07:31:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp01.wxs.nl (smtp01.wxs.nl [195.121.6.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA02456 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 07:31:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.57.96]) by smtp01.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA45E1; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 16:30:27 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <19990110151630.15937.qmail@www0l.netaddress.usa.net> Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 16:37:59 +0100 (CET) Organization: Ninth Circle Enterprises From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: Stephen Palmer Subject: Re: [Re: Request fo help with Zip Drive on vpo0 in -current] Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, dfr@nlsystems.com Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 10-Jan-99 Stephen Palmer wrote: > I've cvsupped again this morning (9AM CST 1/10/98) and now get the > following in a 'make depend' of the kernel. Did I miss a step? > > Stephen L. Palmer > slpalmer@netscape.net > > ../../dev/ppbus/nlpt.c:87: opt_nlpt.h: No such file or directory > ../../dev/ppbus/ppb_1284.c:34: opt_ppb_1284.h: No such file or directory > ../../dev/ppbus/ppbconf.c:40: opt_ppb_1284.h: No such file or directory > ../../dev/ppbus/ppi.c:46: opt_ppb_1284.h: No such file or directory > ../../dev/ppbus/vpo.c:54: opt_vpo.h: No such file or directory > ../../dev/ppbus/vpoio.c:44: opt_vpo.h: No such file or directory > ../../dev/ppbus/immio.c:50: opt_vpo.h: No such file or directory > ../../i386/isa/ppc.c:52: opt_ppc.h: No such file or directory > mkdep: compile failed > *** Error code 1 No, the make process simply cannot find the files, do a cvsup again, I think ye were caught in the middle. Btw, I cvsupped about an hour ago and had to make a new kernel anyways without making world, the kernel took the new sources (offcourse) and I can say that my zip (da2) gets detected at boot-up again... =) --- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven A veil of smoke is what I am, asmodai(at)wxs.nl I wait and I wait... Network/Security Specialist BSD & picoBSD: The Power to Serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 07:34:25 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA02859 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 07:34:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bright.fx.genx.net (bright.fx.genx.net [206.64.4.154]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA02852 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 07:34:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bright@hotjobs.com) Received: from localhost (bright@localhost) by bright.fx.genx.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA84179; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 10:38:21 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bright@hotjobs.com) X-Authentication-Warning: bright.fx.genx.net: bright owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 10:38:21 -0500 (EST) From: Alfred Perlstein X-Sender: bright@bright.fx.genx.net To: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai cc: Mike Smith , current@FreeBSD.ORG, jake@checker.org, dillon@apollo.backplane.com, Luoqi Chen Subject: Re: boot single with new loader? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Alfred Perlstein - Programmer, HotJobs Inc. - www.hotjobs.com -- There are operating systems, and then there's FreeBSD. -- http://www.freebsd.org/ 3.0-current On Sun, 10 Jan 1999, Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote: > On 10-Jan-99 Mike Smith wrote: > >> I have a modified version of tunefs which allows you to enable/disable > >> softupdates on root partition in single user mode. You don't even need > >> to reboot after you've run tunefs, you can simple exit the single user > >> shell, boot into multiuser mode and you root partition is softupdate > >> mounted. The patch is available at http://www.freebsd.org/~luoqi/ . > > > > Any reason you don't want to commit this? > > Dumb question, > > what if the softupdates enabled kernel fails to load and ye have to resort > to a kernel without softupdates and / is enabled with softupdates, does the > softupdate stub catch that off and simply back out into normal FFS > behaviour? Afaik the only thing softupdates does to the disk is enable a flag in the superblock, non softupdates kernels ignore it (i've tried this) Luoqi: i haven't looked at your utility, but it seems that it does a remount, why is it nessesary to go to single user mode then? -Alfred > > --- > Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven A veil of smoke is what I am, > asmodai(at)wxs.nl I wait and I wait... > Network/Security Specialist > BSD & picoBSD: The Power to Serve > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 07:44:46 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA03957 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 07:44:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp05.wxs.nl (smtp05.wxs.nl [195.121.6.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA03952 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 07:44:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.56.131]) by smtp05.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA5744; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 16:44:11 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <19990109022455.A12911@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 16:51:43 +0100 (CET) Organization: Ninth Circle Enterprises From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: Nik Clayton Subject: Re: rc.conf and linux=yes Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 09-Jan-99 Nik Clayton wrote: > On Fri, Jan 08, 1999 at 05:17:12PM -0800, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: >> Hmmm. Urk. You're right, of course, but now I'm even more loath to >> give the essential idea up. Perhaps a knob in the installation >> instead which does both the rc.conf tweak and the pkg_add. Yes, >> that's the ticket. OK, we can turn it back off by default again. :-) > If an rc.conf tweak and a pkg_add is so trivial to do at sysinstall time, > could we have another one that says "I'd rather have PostFix installed > instead of Sendmail please" that does the right thing? Assuming, of > course, that PostFix was ported instead of pulled in to contrib/. > > Granted, this won't fix the "PostFix should be rebuilt by 'make world' > the same way that sendmail is" problem, but the linux libs aren't updated > either, and they seem to be a fairly essential part of the sytem :-) Well, I won't go into the debate of PostFix vs SendMail vs QMail vs CannedSpam vs IDunno, but I think we need to define something once and for all, because I see way too many contradictions in my opinion. At one side we are modularising everything (CAM, A*D (the IDE layer), new syscons, VM, ports) and at the other side we are pulling more proprietary stuff in contrib. Given the fact that we have a workable package solution I do not see the relevance of not putting those mailers or other relevant software in ports and mayhaps make a special menu item for them in sysinstall. Heck, I'd even help out once I figure out the how and why ;) Given the fact that FreeBSD will be used more and more as a replacement of Windows 95 for some users, they will not require a MTA to be present at default install... --- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven A veil of smoke is what I am, asmodai(at)wxs.nl I wait and I wait... Network/Security Specialist BSD & picoBSD: The Power to Serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 07:54:00 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA05153 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 07:51:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from soleil.uvsq.fr (soleil.uvsq.fr [193.51.24.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA05148 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 07:51:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from son@teaser.fr) Received: from teaser.fr (rtc105.reseau.uvsq.fr [193.51.24.21]) by soleil.uvsq.fr (8.9.1/jtpda-5.3.1) with ESMTP id QAA09433 ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 16:51:14 +0100 (MET) Received: (from son@localhost) by teaser.fr (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA06019; Sat, 9 Jan 1999 20:30:41 GMT (envelope-from son) Message-ID: <19990109203041.00416@breizh.prism.uvsq.fr> Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 20:30:41 +0000 From: Nicolas Souchu To: Alexander Leidinger Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: nlpt & polling mode didn't work References: <19990107231544.61205@breizh.prism.uvsq.fr> <199901081218.NAA01555@Vodix.CS.Uni-SB.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.81e In-Reply-To: <199901081218.NAA01555@Vodix.CS.Uni-SB.de>; from Alexander Leidinger on Fri, Jan 08, 1999 at 01:18:52PM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD breizh 3.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Jan 08, 1999 at 01:18:52PM +0100, Alexander Leidinger wrote: > >On 7 Jan, Nicolas Souchu wrote: > >>>>>The problem: >>>>>It takes a looooong time to send data to the printer. >>>> >>>> Printing is ok? >>> >>>I think (nobody wants to wait more than 15 minutes for the page). >>>BTW: I have only 3rd person access to it. Its the system of my brother, >>>and hi is only an user. >> >> And I imagine the old-lpt code works. > >No. lpt didn't work, but I remember it didn't work the first time I >tried it too. It worked only with nlpt. Timing then. nlpt is slower than lpt because of indirection calls. So something must have speedup the machine because nothing changed in nlpt since it was properly working. > >> You may add printfs to the /sys/dev/ppbus/nlpt.c to check where it fails. > >To nlpt_pushbytes()? >What am I looking for? Yes and nlpt_write(). You may add something like this for ppb_wxx() calls: u_char cc; do { cc = STROBE_or_what_else; ppb_wctr(..., cc); } while (ppb_rctr(...) != cc); to be sure ppb_wxxx() are correctly done. And you may add delays here and there to slow down the driver. > >Bye, >Alexander. > >-- > "Darth Vader sleeps with a Teddywookie." > Fortune cookie >http://netchild.home.pages.de/ A.Leidinger @ wurzelausix.cs.uni-sb.de > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > -- nsouch@teaser.fr / nsouch@freebsd.org FreeBSD - Turning PCs into workstations - http://www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 08:29:49 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA08159 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 08:29:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.40.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA08154 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 08:29:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.9.1/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA20525; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 17:28:19 +0100 (CET) To: Alex Le Heux cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: defs and dynamic majors In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 10 Jan 1999 14:06:29 +0100." <3698A5D5.7ED3C61D@funk.org> Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 17:28:19 +0100 Message-ID: <20523.915985699@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <3698A5D5.7ED3C61D@funk.org>, Alex Le Heux writes: >Hi, > >Am I correct in assuming that devfs is eventually going to replace /dev? > >If it is, shouldn't it also be able to dynamically allocate major device >numbers to for example kld-loaded devices? There will be no major number in the end, so this is a transient problem. Eventually you will register a void*+int pair with each node and use those to recover softc and unit no. -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." FreeBSD -- It will take a long time before progress goes too far! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 08:29:55 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA08201 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 08:29:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gw-nl3.philips.com (gw-nl3.philips.com [192.68.44.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA08174 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 08:29:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Jos.Backus@nl.origin-it.com) Received: from smtprelay-nl1.philips.com (localhost.philips.com [127.0.0.1]) by gw-nl3.philips.com with ESMTP id RAA01781 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 17:29:18 +0100 (MET) (envelope-from Jos.Backus@nl.origin-it.com) Received: from smtprelay-eur1.philips.com(130.139.36.3) by gw-nl3.philips.com via mwrap (4.0a) id xma001779; Sun, 10 Jan 99 17:29:18 +0100 Received: from dibbs1.eur.cis.philips.com (dibbs1.eur.cis.philips.com [130.139.33.66]) by smtprelay-nl1.philips.com (8.8.5/8.6.10-1.2.2m-970826) with ESMTP id RAA16724 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 17:29:17 +0100 (MET) Received: from hal.mpn.cp.philips.com (hal.mpn.cp.philips.com [130.139.64.195]) by dibbs1.eur.cis.philips.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA23003 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 17:29:17 +0100 (MET) Received: (qmail 12424 invoked by uid 666); 10 Jan 1999 16:29:49 -0000 Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 17:29:49 +0100 From: Jos Backus To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Two seem-to-be bugs with 3.0-SNAP Message-ID: <19990110172949.A12241@hal.mpn.cp.philips.com> Reply-To: Jos Backus References: <00a201be3c50$ef3ec0b0$0d787880@apex.tapang> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: <00a201be3c50$ef3ec0b0$0d787880@apex.tapang>; from Carlos C. Tapang on Sat, Jan 09, 1999 at 08:23:11PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > >`pw user add' and `pw user mod' hang at the point of executing > >/usr/sbin/pwd_mkdb -C /etc/master.passwd Fixed by davidn 1999/01/08 02:52:39 PST Modified files: usr.sbin/pw pw.c Log: Remove bogus file locking in main(). Revision Changes Path 1.11 +1 -13 src/usr.sbin/pw/pw.c -- Jos Backus _/ _/_/_/ "Reliability means never _/ _/ _/ having to say you're sorry." _/ _/_/_/ -- D. J. Bernstein _/ _/ _/ _/ Jos.Backus@nl.origin-it.com _/_/ _/_/_/ use Std::Disclaimer; To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 08:51:49 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA10210 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 08:51:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from oldnews.quick.net ([207.212.170.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA10085 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 08:51:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from donegan@oldnews.quick.net) Received: (from donegan@localhost) by oldnews.quick.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id IAA00434; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 08:51:09 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 08:51:09 -0800 (PST) From: "Steven P. Donegan" To: Pål Sommerhein cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3.0.0-19990106-SNAP, signal 11 caught In-Reply-To: <3698A22D.FC705781@ifi.uio.no> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id IAA10087 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I received the same messages with 19990105. On Sun, 10 Jan 1999, Pål Sommerhein wrote: > Hi > > When trying to install the 3.0.0-19990106-SNAP version from current.freebsd.org > I get a signal 11 in the very last stage of the installation. That is, > when I answer yes to the last step: This is your last chance, are you > sure ... > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 09:05:56 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA11838 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 09:05:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from lor.watermarkgroup.com (lor.watermarkgroup.com [207.202.73.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA11833 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 09:05:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luoqi@watermarkgroup.com) Received: (from luoqi@localhost) by lor.watermarkgroup.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA06595; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 12:05:19 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from luoqi) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 12:05:19 -0500 (EST) From: Luoqi Chen Message-Id: <199901101705.MAA06595@lor.watermarkgroup.com> To: mike@smith.net.au Subject: Re: boot single with new loader? Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, dillon@apollo.backplane.com, jake@checker.org Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > I have a modified version of tunefs which allows you to enable/disable > > softupdates on root partition in single user mode. You don't even need > > to reboot after you've run tunefs, you can simple exit the single user > > shell, boot into multiuser mode and you root partition is softupdate > > mounted. The patch is available at http://www.freebsd.org/~luoqi/ . > > Any reason you don't want to commit this? > I do, I just asked Bruce to review it for me. The reason I didn't do it earlier was it required some kernel changes to work, so I left it alone and almost forgot about it. The kernel changes have been committed a while ago, the tunefs patch should be ready to go in. -lq To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 09:18:14 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA13254 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 09:18:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from atdot.dotat.org (atdot.dotat.org [203.23.150.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA13249; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 09:18:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from newton@atdot.dotat.org) Received: (from newton@localhost) by atdot.dotat.org (8.9.1/8.7) id DAA02993; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 03:46:37 +1030 (CST) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 03:46:37 +1030 (CST) From: Mark Newton Message-Id: <199901101716.DAA02993@atdot.dotat.org> To: des@flood.ping.uio.no Subject: Re: sysctl descriptions Cc: cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, phk@critter.freebsd.dk Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dag-Erling Smorgrav writes: > Poul-Henning Kamp writes: > > In message <86u2y0btan.fsf@niobe.ewox.org>, Dag-Erling Smorgrav writes: > > >The attached patches implement a mechanism for retrieving a sysctl's > > >description. > > > > The intention was to have a program perambulate /sys and gather > > the stuff into a man-page or share/misc/sysctl.desc file or similar > > If having sysctl descriptions in the kernel really is a problem for > some people, it's trivial to add a kernel option to disable my code. Hmm - Why not put descriptions for the standard sysctls into a KLD which uses some kind of registration mechanism to tell the sysctl infrastructure about them? > How will the system you describe deal with sysctls located in > third-party, binary-only KLDs? By the same mechanism suggested above? - mark -------------------------------------------------------------------- I tried an internal modem, newton@atdot.dotat.org but it hurt when I walked. Mark Newton ----- Voice: +61-4-1958-3414 ------------- Fax: +61-8-83034403 ----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 09:21:41 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA13686 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 09:21:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from lor.watermarkgroup.com (lor.watermarkgroup.com [207.202.73.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA13676 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 09:21:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luoqi@watermarkgroup.com) Received: (from luoqi@localhost) by lor.watermarkgroup.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA06656; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 12:20:40 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from luoqi) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 12:20:40 -0500 (EST) From: Luoqi Chen Message-Id: <199901101720.MAA06656@lor.watermarkgroup.com> To: asmodai@wxs.nl, bright@hotjobs.com Subject: Re: boot single with new loader? Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, dillon@apollo.backplane.com, jake@checker.org, mike@smith.net.au Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Luoqi: i haven't looked at your utility, but it seems that it does a > remount, why is it nessesary to go to single user mode then? > It reloads the root FS much the same way fsck does after it modifies on-disk data structures, it is necessary to have root mounted readonly, AFAIK boot into single user mode is the only way to achieve this. -lq > -Alfred > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 09:22:54 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA13839 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 09:22:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from uni-sb.de (uni-sb.de [134.96.252.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA13834 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 09:22:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rock@wurzelausix.CS.Uni-SB.DE) Received: from cs.uni-sb.de (cs.uni-sb.de [134.96.252.31]) by uni-sb.de (8.9.2/1999010400) with ESMTP id SAA15605; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 18:21:51 +0100 (CET) Received: from wurzelausix.cs.uni-sb.de (quadratix.cs.uni-sb.de [134.96.222.2]) by cs.uni-sb.de (8.9.2/1999010400) with ESMTP id SAA28403; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 18:21:50 +0100 (CET) Received: (from rock@localhost) by wurzelausix.cs.uni-sb.de (8.9.1/wjp/19980821) id SAA06254; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 18:21:45 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 18:21:45 +0100 (CET) From: "D. Rock" Message-Id: <199901101721.SAA06254@wurzelausix.cs.uni-sb.de> To: dfr@nlsystems.com, slpalmer@netscape.net Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Re: Request fo help with Zip Drive on vpo0 in -current] Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >On 10 Jan 1999, Stephen Palmer wrote: > >> I've cvsupped again this morning (9AM CST 1/10/98) and now get the >> following in a 'make depend' of the kernel. Did I miss a step? >> >> Stephen L. Palmer >> slpalmer@netscape.net >> >> ../../dev/ppbus/nlpt.c:87: opt_nlpt.h: No such file or directory >> ../../dev/ppbus/ppb_1284.c:34: opt_ppb_1284.h: No such file or directory >> ../../dev/ppbus/ppbconf.c:40: opt_ppb_1284.h: No such file or directory >> ../../dev/ppbus/ppi.c:46: opt_ppb_1284.h: No such file or directory >> ../../dev/ppbus/vpo.c:54: opt_vpo.h: No such file or directory >> ../../dev/ppbus/vpoio.c:44: opt_vpo.h: No such file or directory >> ../../dev/ppbus/immio.c:50: opt_vpo.h: No such file or directory >> ../../i386/isa/ppc.c:52: opt_ppc.h: No such file or directory >> mkdep: compile failed >> *** Error code 1 > >I didn't change anything like that. From the looks of it, you need to >re-run config(8) before retrying 'make depend'. > In the cvs logs I didn't see any modifications of options.i386 Maybe the commit isn't complete? Daniel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 09:30:10 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA14943 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 09:30:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA14869 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 09:30:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from localhost (dfr@localhost) by nlsystems.com (8.9.1/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA01460; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 17:29:01 GMT Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 17:29:01 +0000 (GMT) From: Doug Rabson To: "D. Rock" cc: slpalmer@netscape.net, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Re: Request fo help with Zip Drive on vpo0 in -current] In-Reply-To: <199901101721.SAA06254@wurzelausix.cs.uni-sb.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 10 Jan 1999, D. Rock wrote: > >On 10 Jan 1999, Stephen Palmer wrote: > > > >> I've cvsupped again this morning (9AM CST 1/10/98) and now get the > >> following in a 'make depend' of the kernel. Did I miss a step? > >> > >> Stephen L. Palmer > >> slpalmer@netscape.net > >> > >> ../../dev/ppbus/nlpt.c:87: opt_nlpt.h: No such file or directory > >> ../../dev/ppbus/ppb_1284.c:34: opt_ppb_1284.h: No such file or directory > >> ../../dev/ppbus/ppbconf.c:40: opt_ppb_1284.h: No such file or directory > >> ../../dev/ppbus/ppi.c:46: opt_ppb_1284.h: No such file or directory > >> ../../dev/ppbus/vpo.c:54: opt_vpo.h: No such file or directory > >> ../../dev/ppbus/vpoio.c:44: opt_vpo.h: No such file or directory > >> ../../dev/ppbus/immio.c:50: opt_vpo.h: No such file or directory > >> ../../i386/isa/ppc.c:52: opt_ppc.h: No such file or directory > >> mkdep: compile failed > >> *** Error code 1 > > > >I didn't change anything like that. From the looks of it, you need to > >re-run config(8) before retrying 'make depend'. > > > In the cvs logs I didn't see any modifications of options.i386 > Maybe the commit isn't complete? I didn't change any options. This was a three line change initialising some fields in a structure with zeros :-). -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 09:40:45 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA16164 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 09:40:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from soleil.uvsq.fr (soleil.uvsq.fr [193.51.24.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA16159 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 09:40:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from son@teaser.fr) Received: from teaser.fr (rtc101.reseau.uvsq.fr [193.51.24.17]) by soleil.uvsq.fr (8.9.1/jtpda-5.3.1) with ESMTP id SAA21313 ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 18:40:02 +0100 (MET) Received: (from son@localhost) by teaser.fr (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA00994; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 19:39:23 GMT (envelope-from son) Message-ID: <19990110193922.08999@breizh.prism.uvsq.fr> Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 19:39:22 +0000 From: Nicolas Souchu To: "D. Rock" Cc: dfr@nlsystems.com, slpalmer@netscape.net, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Re: Request fo help with Zip Drive on vpo0 in -current] References: <199901101721.SAA06254@wurzelausix.cs.uni-sb.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.81e In-Reply-To: <199901101721.SAA06254@wurzelausix.cs.uni-sb.de>; from D. Rock on Sun, Jan 10, 1999 at 06:21:45PM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD breizh 3.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Jan 10, 1999 at 06:21:45PM +0100, D. Rock wrote: > >>On 10 Jan 1999, Stephen Palmer wrote: >> >>> I've cvsupped again this morning (9AM CST 1/10/98) and now get the >>> following in a 'make depend' of the kernel. Did I miss a step? >>> >>> Stephen L. Palmer >>> slpalmer@netscape.net >>> >>> ../../dev/ppbus/nlpt.c:87: opt_nlpt.h: No such file or directory >>> ../../dev/ppbus/ppb_1284.c:34: opt_ppb_1284.h: No such file or directory >>> ../../dev/ppbus/ppbconf.c:40: opt_ppb_1284.h: No such file or directory >>> ../../dev/ppbus/ppi.c:46: opt_ppb_1284.h: No such file or directory >>> ../../dev/ppbus/vpo.c:54: opt_vpo.h: No such file or directory >>> ../../dev/ppbus/vpoio.c:44: opt_vpo.h: No such file or directory >>> ../../dev/ppbus/immio.c:50: opt_vpo.h: No such file or directory >>> ../../i386/isa/ppc.c:52: opt_ppc.h: No such file or directory >>> mkdep: compile failed >>> *** Error code 1 >> >>I didn't change anything like that. From the looks of it, you need to >>re-run config(8) before retrying 'make depend'. >> >In the cvs logs I didn't see any modifications of options.i386 >Maybe the commit isn't complete? This is mostly arch-independent code options, but you're right, opt_ppc should be in options.i386 and not /sys/conf/options. I'll fix it. Thanks. > >Daniel > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > -- nsouch@teaser.fr / nsouch@freebsd.org FreeBSD - Turning PCs into workstations - http://www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 09:40:52 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA16184 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 09:40:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from soleil.uvsq.fr (soleil.uvsq.fr [193.51.24.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA16174 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 09:40:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from son@teaser.fr) Received: from teaser.fr (rtc101.reseau.uvsq.fr [193.51.24.17]) by soleil.uvsq.fr (8.9.1/jtpda-5.3.1) with ESMTP id SAA21323 ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 18:40:05 +0100 (MET) Received: (from son@localhost) by teaser.fr (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA01011; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 19:42:42 GMT (envelope-from son) Message-ID: <19990110194242.33192@breizh.prism.uvsq.fr> Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 19:42:42 +0000 From: Nicolas Souchu To: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai Cc: Stephen Palmer , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, dfr@nlsystems.com Subject: Re: [Re: Request fo help with Zip Drive on vpo0 in -current] References: <19990110151630.15937.qmail@www0l.netaddress.usa.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.81e In-Reply-To: ; from Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai on Sun, Jan 10, 1999 at 04:37:59PM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD breizh 3.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Jan 10, 1999 at 04:37:59PM +0100, Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote: > >On 10-Jan-99 Stephen Palmer wrote: >> I've cvsupped again this morning (9AM CST 1/10/98) and now get the >> following in a 'make depend' of the kernel. Did I miss a step? >> >> Stephen L. Palmer >> slpalmer@netscape.net >> >> ../../dev/ppbus/nlpt.c:87: opt_nlpt.h: No such file or directory >> ../../dev/ppbus/ppb_1284.c:34: opt_ppb_1284.h: No such file or directory >> ../../dev/ppbus/ppbconf.c:40: opt_ppb_1284.h: No such file or directory >> ../../dev/ppbus/ppi.c:46: opt_ppb_1284.h: No such file or directory >> ../../dev/ppbus/vpo.c:54: opt_vpo.h: No such file or directory >> ../../dev/ppbus/vpoio.c:44: opt_vpo.h: No such file or directory >> ../../dev/ppbus/immio.c:50: opt_vpo.h: No such file or directory >> ../../i386/isa/ppc.c:52: opt_ppc.h: No such file or directory >> mkdep: compile failed >> *** Error code 1 > >No, the make process simply cannot find the files, do a cvsup again, I >think ye were caught in the middle. > >Btw, I cvsupped about an hour ago and had to make a new kernel anyways >without making world, the kernel took the new sources (offcourse) and I can >say that my zip (da2) gets detected at boot-up again... =) > >--- >Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven A veil of smoke is what I am, >asmodai(at)wxs.nl I wait and I wait... >Network/Security Specialist >BSD & picoBSD: The Power to Serve > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > And I apologize, I forgot to commit options anyway :( -- nsouch@teaser.fr / nsouch@freebsd.org FreeBSD - Turning PCs into workstations - http://www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 09:43:25 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA16397 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 09:43:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from lamb.sas.com (lamb.sas.com [192.35.83.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA16392 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 09:43:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jwd@unx.sas.com) Received: from mozart (mozart.unx.sas.com [192.58.184.8]) by lamb.sas.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA05512 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 12:30:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from bb01f39.unx.sas.com by mozart (5.65c/SAS/Domains/5-6-90) id AA14828; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 12:30:01 -0500 Received: (from jwd@localhost) by bb01f39.unx.sas.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA60599 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 12:30:00 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jwd) From: "John W. DeBoskey" Message-Id: <199901101730.MAA60599@bb01f39.unx.sas.com> Subject: Boot.flp doesn't To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 12:30:00 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, From 3.0-19990110-SNAP. The boot floppy created from boot.flp does not work. From the following it looks like the loader doesn't understand a gzipped kernel. No /boot/loader boot: No /kernel >>FreeBSD/i386 BOOT Default: 0:fd(0,a)/kernel boot: ? . .. kernel.gz boot.help kernel.config >>FreeBSD/i386 BOOT Default: 0:fd(0,a)/kernel boot: /kernel.gz Invalid format Comments, critiques, and helpful pointers are always welcome. Thanks! John To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 09:48:05 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA16902 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 09:48:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from apollo.backplane.com (apollo.backplane.com [209.157.86.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA16871 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 09:48:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA86041; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 09:47:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 09:47:27 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <199901101747.JAA86041@apollo.backplane.com> To: Jos Backus Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Two seem-to-be bugs with 3.0-SNAP Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :> >`pw user add' and `pw user mod' hang at the point of executing > :>/usr/sbin/pwd_mkdb -C /etc/master.passwd : :Fixed by : :davidn 1999/01/08 02:52:39 PST : : Modified files: : usr.sbin/pw pw.c : Log: : Remove bogus file locking in main(). : : Revision Changes Path : 1.11 +1 -13 src/usr.sbin/pw/pw.c : :-- :Jos Backus _/ _/_/_/ "Reliability means never :Jos.Backus@nl.origin-it.com _/_/ _/_/_/ use Std::Disclaimer; Ah, I missed that one. pwd_mkdb was earlier modified to do locking (which it didn't do before). So now that it does, programs that use it shoulds either use pwd_mkdb's -N option so they can hold their own lock all the way through, or not hold a lock. -Matt Matthew Dillon Engineering, HiWay Technologies, Inc. & BEST Internet Communications & God knows what else. (Please include original email in any response) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 09:51:39 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA17406 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 09:51:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail12.svr.pol.co.uk (mail12.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.215]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA17401 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 09:51:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from A.M.Zanker@open.ac.uk) Received: from modem-19.hydrazine.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.71.147] helo=jemima) by mail12.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 0zzP0w-0007d8-00 for current@freebsd.org; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 17:51:03 +0000 Message-Id: <4.1.19990110174206.00940870@aire.open.ac.uk> X-Sender: mikez@aire.open.ac.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 17:49:54 +0000 To: current@FreeBSD.ORG From: Mike Zanker Subject: No vpo man page Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Having completed a successful update from 2.2.8-STABLE to 3.0-CURRENT (ELF) I decided to get my parallel port Zip drive working. It was then that I noticed that there was no vpo man page - the source is there as /usr/src/share/man/man4/vpo.4 but it has been omitted from the Makefile in that directory so never gets gzipped and installed. Would someone like to fix it, please? One more thing - it fails when I try and mount a Zip disk with a DOS filesystem on it. Does the driver only support a FreeBSD filesystem? Thanks in advance, Mike -- Mike Zanker, Academic Computing Service, The Open University, UK Tel: +44 1908 652726, Fax: +44 1908 652193 Views expressed are personal and do not necessarily reflect University opinion. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 09:52:50 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA17550 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 09:52:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from uni-sb.de (uni-sb.de [134.96.252.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA17545 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 09:52:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from netchild@wurzelausix.cs.uni-sb.de) Received: from Vodix.CS.Uni-SB.de (acc2-158.telip.uni-sb.de [134.96.112.158]) by uni-sb.de (8.9.2/1999010400) with ESMTP id SAA15628; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 18:52:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from wurzelausix.cs.uni-sb.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Vodix.CS.Uni-SB.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA00559; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 18:51:02 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from netchild@wurzelausix.cs.uni-sb.de) Message-Id: <199901101751.SAA00559@Vodix.CS.Uni-SB.de> Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 18:51:00 +0100 (CET) From: Alexander Leidinger Subject: Re: nlpt & polling mode didn't work To: nsouch@teaser.fr cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19990109203041.00416@breizh.prism.uvsq.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 9 Jan, Nicolas Souchu wrote: >>No. lpt didn't work, but I remember it didn't work the first time I >>tried it too. It worked only with nlpt. > > Timing then. nlpt is slower than lpt because of indirection calls. So > something must have speedup the machine because nothing changed in nlpt since > it was properly working. ??? Just a make world and a make XFree-3.3.3 >>> You may add printfs to the /sys/dev/ppbus/nlpt.c to check where it fails. >> >>To nlpt_pushbytes()? >>What am I looking for? > > Yes and nlpt_write(). You may add something like this for ppb_wxx() calls: > > u_char cc; > do { > cc = STROBE_or_what_else; > ppb_wctr(..., cc); > > } while (ppb_rctr(...) != cc); > > to be sure ppb_wxxx() are correctly done. > And you may add delays here and there to slow down the driver. What about options NLPT_DEBUG in the kernel, does this show something interesting too? I had it turned on on my machine, but I didn't know to interprete the messages. Bye, Alexander. -- "Darth Vader sleeps with a Teddywookie." Fortune cookie http://netchild.home.pages.de/ A.Leidinger @ wurzelausix.cs.uni-sb.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 09:57:11 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA17927 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 09:57:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bouvreuil.cybercable.fr (bouvreuil.cybercable.fr [212.198.3.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA17915 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 09:57:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from herbelot@cybercable.fr) Received: (qmail 35 invoked from network); 10 Jan 1999 17:56:29 -0000 Received: from d076.paris-21.cybercable.fr (HELO cybercable.fr) (212.198.21.76) by bouvreuil.cybercable.fr with SMTP; 10 Jan 1999 17:56:29 -0000 Message-ID: <3698E9BE.B37653@cybercable.fr> Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 18:56:14 +0100 From: Thierry Herbelot X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: kernel trap 25 ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello I see the following in my messages log : Jan 10 18:18:02 tfh /kernel: kernel trap 25 with interrupts disabled what does this mean ? % uname -a FreeBSD tfh.herbelot.nom 3.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT #5: Sun Dec 20 21:04:37 CET 1998 thierry.herbelot@tfh.herbelot.nom:/usr/src/sys/compile/TFH i386 (Current cvsupped around Dec 19 13:01) TIA TfH To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 10:04:57 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA19153 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 10:04:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA19139 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 10:04:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from julian@whistle.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by alpo.whistle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA15566; Fri, 8 Jan 1999 11:01:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from current1.whistle.com(207.76.205.22) via SMTP by alpo.whistle.com, id smtpdA15561; Fri Jan 8 19:01:07 1999 Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 11:00:59 -0800 (PST) From: Julian Elischer To: Frank Nobis cc: Kenneth Wayne Culver , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SOFTUPDATES In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I hope you have it on your /usr/obj partition, because that's where it would be used and make a difference. It only affects writes. On 8 Jan 1999, Frank Nobis wrote: > >>>>> "Kenneth" == Kenneth Wayne Culver writes: > > Kenneth> I have seen all the messages about Softupdates, and such, > Kenneth> and I was wondering what the advantages of using > Kenneth> Softupdates are (or will be once the code is debugged). I > Kenneth> have looked on the FreeBSD website, and couldn't find > Kenneth> this information there. > > Just to give you an impression on what is possible. After the > 3.0 Release date I enabled softupdates on my src > partition. I'm doing a make world -j4 on my dual PII 400 in > less than one hour. I stress test my system at least once a > day with that and had absolutely no problems regarding > softupdates until now. > > For now the current is solid as a rock for me. > > fn@trinity:ttyp1$ uptime > 8:29AM up 7 days, 17:18, 2 users, load averages: 2.07, 2.00, 1.98 > > The load come from rc5des running :-) and 7 days ago I > switched to the new bootblocks. > > Regards > Frank > -- > Frank Nobis Email: PGP AVAILABLE > Landgrafenstr. 130 dg3dcn http://www.radio-do.de/~fn/ > 44139 Dortmund Powered by SMP FreeBSD > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 10:29:02 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA23657 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 10:29:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from lor.watermarkgroup.com (lor.watermarkgroup.com [207.202.73.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA23652; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 10:28:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luoqi@watermarkgroup.com) Received: (from luoqi@localhost) by lor.watermarkgroup.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA07251; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 13:28:25 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from luoqi) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 13:28:25 -0500 (EST) From: Luoqi Chen Message-Id: <199901101828.NAA07251@lor.watermarkgroup.com> To: dg@FreeBSD.ORG, syssgm@dtir.qld.gov.au Subject: Re: Hangs on "inode" and "thrd_sleep" Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I ran into the same problem before. If you search the -current archive for deadlock, I posted a patch to solve this problem (I should have filed a PR for this). There are more serious problems with locking in vm_fault(), which are more difficult to fix, see PR 8416 by Tor Egge. -lq > My test machine hung last night during 'make -j5 buildworld' with 7 processes > in "thrd_sleep" and 2 in "inode". Thus began a marathon DDB session > (punctuated by some reluctant sleep). > > The machine is a 486DX2/66 with 16Mb ram, AHA1542CF, 1Gb hard disk, kernel > from 29/12/98, compiling current from yesterday, elf binaries, elf kernel, > softupdates. No NFS involved. Plenty of swap, and with only 16Mb ram and > parallel builds it does an awful lot of paging. > > The last visible bit of the compilation log went like this: > > cc -fpic -DPIC ... alias_util.so > building profiled alias library > building standard alias library > building shared alias library (version 2) > > Since it was a parallel make, possibly all 3 library builds are running in > parallel. Certainly there are 3 tsort and 3 nm processes active (well, they > would be if the whole thing wasn't wedged). > > The processes in "thrd_sleep" are trying to lock exec_map. Exec_map has > 1 shared lock, 7 waiting, and LK_NOPAUSE LK_SHARE_NON_ZERO LK_WAIT_NON_ZERO > and LK_WANT_EXCL set. Where's the missing process with the shared lock? > > The processes in "inode" are trying to lock the inode that refers to the > vnode that is "/usr/obj/elf/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin/sed". There is 1 shared lock > and 2 waiting, and LK_SHARE_NON_ZERO LK_WAIT_NON_ZERO and LK_WANT_EXCL set. > Similarly, where is the missing process with the shared lock? > > Well, the exec_map contains 6 entries. Three are largish and must be from > argument copying. The other 3 are single pages, and must come from that > peculiar double-mapping-of-the-text-data-boundary bit in elf_load_section(). > Two of these pages are from the same "sed" vnode that the processes stuck > in "inode" want. Of course, what I really should be saying is that the > same page is in exec_map in two places. > > The problem was not lack of free pages. The free list has hundreds of > free pages. > > I'd like to say I've got to the bottom of all this and add another one > line patch to the kernel, but I've run out of puff. I'll be leaving the > machine on (and stuck) for a while and will try again to determine the > root cause. > > But I will ask: What is likely to happen if two processes attempt to > exec the same binary at the same time and the binary is not in core? > > The only place I can find that issues a shared lock on exec_map is the > vm_fault() (via vm_map_lookup()) to fill that double mapped text/data page. > Everything else seems to want an exclusive lock. Thus I point my finger > vaguely in the direction of the elf exec code and yell "Witch! Burn her!" > > What else can I discover from my hung 486 that could help diagnose this? > I've only got DDB and stupidly disconnected my serial console setup. > > Stephen. > > PS Finding the name of a vnode from the name cache using ddb is slow and > painful. What's the easy way? > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 11:34:05 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA03464 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 11:34:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from apollo.backplane.com (apollo.backplane.com [209.157.86.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA03455; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 11:34:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA86598; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 11:33:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 11:33:28 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <199901101933.LAA86598@apollo.backplane.com> To: Luoqi Chen Cc: dg@FreeBSD.ORG, syssgm@dtir.qld.gov.au, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Hangs on "inode" and "thrd_sleep" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :I ran into the same problem before. If you search the -current archive :for deadlock, I posted a patch to solve this problem (I should have filed :a PR for this). There are more serious problems with locking in vm_fault(), :which are more difficult to fix, see PR 8416 by Tor Egge. : :-lq : :> My test machine hung last night during 'make -j5 buildworld' with 7 processes :> in "thrd_sleep" and 2 in "inode". Thus began a marathon DDB session :... :> Your patch to vm_fault.c in PR 8416 looks reasonable. If you have an additional patch ( or is the one in PR8416 the one you 'posted' ??) I'd appreciate it if you could email it to me. In general, a lot of the confusion in the VM system stems from it having to effectively bypass vm_object's and special-case vnode related ops. What should really happen is that all VM ops should run through the associated vm_object's and the backing store underlying those objects should be hidden. Also, it should be possible to handle other VM related deadlocks by locking-through to get a vm_page, lock the page, and then hold the lock on the page while releasing all the other locks. The PG_BUSY/vm_page->busy hacks could be used to effect here. Fixing this would also solve the lock ordering problem. I'll put cleaning this up on my list for 4.0. -Matt Matthew Dillon Engineering, HiWay Technologies, Inc. & BEST Internet Communications & God knows what else. (Please include original email in any response) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 12:20:42 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA09288 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 12:20:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA09283 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 12:20:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA53026; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 12:19:53 -0800 (PST) To: Brian Somers cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: State of the union, 1999. In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 10 Jan 1999 13:03:51 GMT." <199901101303.NAA05707@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org> Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 12:19:52 -0800 Message-ID: <53022.915999592@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > How about some non-geeky paraphernalia (your mailer doesn't do spell > checking, does it ?) ? It's in the pipeline. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 12:33:54 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA10249 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 12:33:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from vanessa.eliuk.org (pme172.sunshine.net [209.17.178.172]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA10242 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 12:33:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kevin_eliuk@sunshine.net) Received: from localhost (cagey@localhost) by vanessa.eliuk.org (8.9.1/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA08280; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 12:13:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cagey@vanessa.eliuk.org) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 12:13:27 -0800 (PST) From: "Kevin G. Eliuk" Reply-To: "Kevin G. Eliuk" To: lcremean@tidalwave.net cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ide_pci I'll volunteer In-Reply-To: <19990110054338.B50994@tidalwave.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 10 Jan 1999, Lee Cremeans wrote: > On Sun, Jan 10, 1999 at 05:38:53AM -0500, Lee Cremeans wrote: > > Aw damn...I just took another look at the diffs I made, and they aren't > complete :/ I'll fix this tomorrow, after I've had some sleep. > Let me know when you have those up, I'll fetch and send back my results too. -- Regards, Kevin G. Eliuk Discover Rock Solid, Discover FreeBSD | http://www.FreeBSD.Org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 12:40:15 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA10801 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 12:40:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from float.dyn.ml.org (h24-64-221-247.gv.wave.shaw.ca [24.64.221.247]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA10791 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 12:40:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jake@h24-64-221-247.gv.wave.shaw.ca) Received: from h24-64-221-247.gv.wave.shaw.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by float.dyn.ml.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA48069 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 12:39:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jake@h24-64-221-247.gv.wave.shaw.ca) Message-Id: <199901102039.MAA48069@float.dyn.ml.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: a standard way to start vinum? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 12:39:37 -0800 From: Jake Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Can we have stubs to start vinum added to /etc/rc and /etc/rc.conf ? Something like: in rc.conf : vinum_enable="YES" # Run the vinum volume manager (or NO). vinum_device="/dev/wd0s1e" # Drive to get config info from. and rc : # Configure vinum devices. if [ "X${vinum_enable}" = X"YES" ]; then vinum read ${vinum_device} fi swapon -a Assuming that "vinum read ${device}" and "vinum create ${config_file}" are identical, something like if [ -f /etc/vinum.conf ]; then vinum create /etc/vinum.conf fi might be more desireable, just in case the on disk info gets scrambled. This happened to me last night ( no idea why :) ) and I was saved by the virtue that my config file was still hanging around. Cheers! FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT rah rah rah! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 12:43:56 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA11137 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 12:43:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gw-nl3.philips.com (gw-nl3.philips.com [192.68.44.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA11132 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 12:43:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Jos.Backus@nl.origin-it.com) Received: from smtprelay-nl1.philips.com (localhost.philips.com [127.0.0.1]) by gw-nl3.philips.com with ESMTP id VAA23231 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 21:43:19 +0100 (MET) (envelope-from Jos.Backus@nl.origin-it.com) Received: from smtprelay-eur1.philips.com(130.139.36.3) by gw-nl3.philips.com via mwrap (4.0a) id xma023229; Sun, 10 Jan 99 21:43:19 +0100 Received: from dibbs1.eur.cis.philips.com (dibbs1.eur.cis.philips.com [130.139.33.66]) by smtprelay-nl1.philips.com (8.8.5/8.6.10-1.2.2m-970826) with ESMTP id VAA07146 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 21:43:19 +0100 (MET) Received: from hal.mpn.cp.philips.com (hal.mpn.cp.philips.com [130.139.64.195]) by dibbs1.eur.cis.philips.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA15688 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 21:43:18 +0100 (MET) Received: (qmail 13603 invoked by uid 666); 10 Jan 1999 20:43:51 -0000 Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 21:43:51 +0100 From: Jos Backus To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Two seem-to-be bugs with 3.0-SNAP Message-ID: <19990110214351.A13555@hal.mpn.cp.philips.com> Reply-To: Jos Backus References: <199901101747.JAA86041@apollo.backplane.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: <199901101747.JAA86041@apollo.backplane.com>; from Matthew Dillon on Sun, Jan 10, 1999 at 09:47:27AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Jan 10, 1999 at 09:47:27AM -0800, Matthew Dillon wrote: > Ah, I missed that one. pwd_mkdb was earlier modified to do locking > (which it didn't do before). So now that it does, programs that > use it shoulds either use pwd_mkdb's -N option so they can hold their > own lock all the way through, or not hold a lock. I guess pw shouldn't lock /etc/master.passwd in this case (davidn removed it), because I recall changing the call inside pw to pwd_mkdb, adding the -N flag, but that wouldn't work either because the pwdb call in pwupd.c(pw_update) would return with an error in that case (because of the LOCK_EX failing). But my memory is starting to get hazy on the subject. Cheers, -- Jos Backus _/ _/_/_/ "Reliability means never _/ _/ _/ having to say you're sorry." _/ _/_/_/ -- D. J. Bernstein _/ _/ _/ _/ Jos.Backus@nl.origin-it.com _/_/ _/_/_/ use Std::Disclaimer; To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 12:53:35 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA11861 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 12:53:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA11856 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 12:53:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA53252; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 12:52:43 -0800 (PST) To: "Steven P. Donegan" cc: P l Sommerhein , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3.0.0-19990106-SNAP, signal 11 caught In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 10 Jan 1999 08:51:09 PST." Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 12:52:43 -0800 Message-ID: <53247.916001563@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I received the same messages with 19990105. This bug should be fixed now, I just need to get snapshots working again. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 12:54:02 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA12086 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 12:54:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA12067 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 12:53:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from imp@village.org) Received: from harmony [10.0.0.6] by rover.village.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0zzRrH-0000uw-00; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 13:53:15 -0700 Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.1/8.8.3) with ESMTP id NAA13011; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 13:51:18 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199901102051.NAA13011@harmony.village.org> To: Alfred Perlstein Subject: Re: Why doscmd isn't builded by default? Cc: "freebsd-current@freebsd.org" In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 07 Jan 1999 13:40:04 EST." References: Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 13:51:17 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message Alfred Perlstein writes: : > I'm looking into -CURRENT src/usr.bin/Makefile and there isn't any : > information about doscmd so it isn't builded by default. : > Is there any reason not to build doscmd by default? : : It requires X. It doesn't require X. It will use X if it is present, however. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 12:56:51 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA12433 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 12:56:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from float.dyn.ml.org (h24-64-221-247.gv.wave.shaw.ca [24.64.221.247]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA12428 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 12:56:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jake@h24-64-221-247.gv.wave.shaw.ca) Received: from h24-64-221-247.gv.wave.shaw.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by float.dyn.ml.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA72758; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 12:56:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jake@h24-64-221-247.gv.wave.shaw.ca) Message-Id: <199901102056.MAA72758@float.dyn.ml.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: State of the union, 1999. In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 10 Jan 1999 12:19:52 PST." <53022.915999592@zippy.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 12:56:14 -0800 From: Jake Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > How about some non-geeky paraphernalia (your mailer doesn't do spell > > checking, does it ?) ? > > It's in the pipeline. > An outlet for this stuff in Canada would be nice if one doesn't already exist. I'd like a hat, a t-shirt and a decal for my computer, (mug would also be cool) but the state of the dollar and shipping costs make it prohibitively expensive to order from California. maybe some other Canadian users would want to get in on a bulk order even? Thanks eh To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 13:01:21 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA12884 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 13:01:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA12878 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 13:01:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA53320; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 13:00:33 -0800 (PST) To: "John W. DeBoskey" cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Boot.flp doesn't In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 10 Jan 1999 12:30:00 EST." <199901101730.MAA60599@bb01f39.unx.sas.com> Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 13:00:33 -0800 Message-ID: <53317.916002033@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > it looks like the loader doesn't understand a gzipped kernel. Yeah, it also looks like we're going to be out of the release business for awhile. We've hit another space crunch and I'm not yet sure what to do about it. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 13:12:51 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA14082 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 13:12:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles240.castles.com [208.214.165.240]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA14077 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 13:12:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA08306; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 13:09:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199901102109.NAA08306@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Thierry Herbelot cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: kernel trap 25 ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 10 Jan 1999 18:56:14 +0100." <3698E9BE.B37653@cybercable.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 13:09:05 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Hello > > I see the following in my messages log : > > Jan 10 18:18:02 tfh /kernel: kernel trap 25 with interrupts disabled > > what does this mean ? > > % uname -a > FreeBSD tfh.herbelot.nom 3.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT #5: Sun Dec 20 > 21:04:37 CET 1998 > thierry.herbelot@tfh.herbelot.nom:/usr/src/sys/compile/TFH i386 > > (Current cvsupped around Dec 19 13:01) According to Peter Wemm: DrZipLok: trap 25: My guess is one of either: Drzip: race condition context switching between processes with their own private TSS (wine for exmaple) DrZip: 2: some sort of corruption of process or pcb/pcbext context Drzip: 3: some sort of CPU incompatability (ie: kernel doesn't know about variations (or bugs) in (say) K6 or Cyrix) Are you running eg. Wine? What hardware? Any other strange problems? -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 13:23:12 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA14934 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 13:23:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA14929 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 13:23:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from localhost (dfr@localhost) by nlsystems.com (8.9.1/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA02659; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 21:20:35 GMT Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 21:20:34 +0000 (GMT) From: Doug Rabson To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: "John W. DeBoskey" , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Boot.flp doesn't In-Reply-To: <53317.916002033@zippy.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 10 Jan 1999, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > it looks like the loader doesn't understand a gzipped kernel. > > Yeah, it also looks like we're going to be out of the release business > for awhile. We've hit another space crunch and I'm not yet sure > what to do about it. Is the floppy kernel stripped? There is really no need for symbols in sysinstall's environment (I think). -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 13:24:36 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA15126 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 13:24:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from korin.warman.org.pl (korin.nask.waw.pl [195.187.243.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA15121 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 13:24:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from abial@nask.pl) Received: from localhost (abial@localhost) by korin.warman.org.pl (8.9.1/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA29667; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 22:29:48 +0100 (CET) X-Authentication-Warning: korin.warman.org.pl: abial owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 22:29:48 +0100 (CET) From: Andrzej Bialecki X-Sender: abial@korin.warman.org.pl To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: "John W. DeBoskey" , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Boot.flp doesn't In-Reply-To: <53317.916002033@zippy.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 10 Jan 1999, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > it looks like the loader doesn't understand a gzipped kernel. > > Yeah, it also looks like we're going to be out of the release business > for awhile. We've hit another space crunch and I'm not yet sure > what to do about it. How much space is needed? We still have some options left: * replace sh with either pdksh (smaller) or something much much more primitive, and assume that people who want shell will get it on the fixit.flp, * replace tar.sh, find, cpio with small C proggy - I have one, which came with sash (StandAlone Shell). It needs some tweaks to cooperate with minigzip, but they are trivial. Its copyright is also acceptable (copyrighted but free, period). Its size is around 8kB or similar. Andrzej Bialecki -------------------- ++-------++ ------------------------------------- ||PicoBSD|| FreeBSD in your pocket? Go and see: Research & Academic |+-------+| "Small & Embedded FreeBSD" Network in Poland | |TT~~~| | http://www.freebsd.org/~picobsd/ -------------------- ~-+==---+-+ ------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 13:26:39 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA15390 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 13:26:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bouvreuil.cybercable.fr (bouvreuil.cybercable.fr [212.198.3.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA15385 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 13:26:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from herbelot@cybercable.fr) Received: (qmail 12877 invoked from network); 10 Jan 1999 21:26:01 -0000 Received: from d076.paris-21.cybercable.fr (HELO cybercable.fr) (212.198.21.76) by bouvreuil.cybercable.fr with SMTP; 10 Jan 1999 21:26:01 -0000 Message-ID: <36991ADD.1259F65B@cybercable.fr> Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 22:25:49 +0100 From: Thierry Herbelot X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Smith CC: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: kernel trap 25 ? References: <199901102109.NAA08306@dingo.cdrom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, Thanks for the reply My setup is very classical (Ther is a dmesg later) I was trying to mount_msdos a floppy when I had these "trap 25" messages I do not use Wine (nevertheless I have some patches from R. Mooney to read CDDA tracks) I'm usually running KDE1.0 (I was when I got the messages) TfH Dec 31 14:56:00 tfh /kernel: Copyright (c) 1992-1998 FreeBSD Inc. Dec 31 14:56:01 tfh /kernel: Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 Dec 31 14:56:01 tfh /kernel: The Regents of the University of California. All right s reserved. Dec 31 14:56:01 tfh /kernel: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT #5: Sun Dec 20 21:04:37 CET 1998 Dec 31 14:56:01 tfh /kernel: thierry.herbelot@tfh.herbelot.nom:/usr/src/sys/compile /TFH Dec 31 14:56:01 tfh /kernel: Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz Dec 31 14:56:01 tfh /kernel: Timecounter "TSC" frequency 266615424 Hz Dec 31 14:56:01 tfh /kernel: CPU: Pentium II (266.62-MHz 686-class CPU) Dec 31 14:56:01 tfh /kernel: Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x634 Stepping=4 Dec 31 14:56:01 tfh /kernel: Features=0x80f9ff Dec 31 14:56:01 tfh /kernel: real memory = 67108864 (65536K bytes) Dec 31 14:56:01 tfh /kernel: config> quit Dec 31 14:56:01 tfh /kernel: avail memory = 62881792 (61408K bytes) Dec 31 14:56:01 tfh /kernel: Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: Dec 31 14:56:01 tfh /kernel: chip0: rev 0x03 on pci0.0.0 Dec 31 14:56:01 tfh /kernel: chip1: r ev 0x03 on pci0.1.0 Dec 31 14:56:01 tfh /kernel: chip2: rev 0x01 on p ci0.7.0 Dec 31 14:56:01 tfh /kernel: ide_pci0: rev 0x01 on pci0.7.1 Dec 31 14:56:01 tfh /kernel: chip3: rev 0x01 on pci0.7.3 Dec 31 14:56:01 tfh /kernel: ed1: rev 0x00 int a irq 10 on pci0.15.0 Dec 31 14:56:01 tfh /kernel: ed1: address 00:40:05:65:66:13, type NE2000 (16 bit) Dec 31 14:56:01 tfh /kernel: Probing for devices on PCI bus 1: Dec 31 14:56:01 tfh /kernel: vga0: rev 0x10 int a i rq 9 on pci1.0.0 Dec 31 14:56:01 tfh /kernel: Probing for PnP devices: Dec 31 14:56:01 tfh /kernel: CSN 1 Vendor ID: CTL00c7 [0xc7008c0e] Serial 0x1c7db3a a Comp ID: PNPb02f [0x2fb0d041] Dec 31 14:56:01 tfh /kernel: pcm1 (SB16pnp sn 0x1c7db3aa) at 0x220-0x22f irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x15 on isa Dec 31 14:56:01 tfh /kernel: Probing for devices on the ISA bus: Dec 31 14:56:01 tfh /kernel: sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard Dec 31 14:56:01 tfh /kernel: sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> Dec 31 14:56:01 tfh /kernel: ed0 not found at 0x280 Dec 31 14:56:01 tfh /kernel: sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa Dec 31 14:56:01 tfh /kernel: sio0: type 16550A Dec 31 14:56:01 tfh /kernel: lpt0 at 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa Dec 31 14:56:01 tfh /kernel: lpt0: Interrupt-driven port Dec 31 14:56:01 tfh /kernel: lp0: TCP/IP capable interface Dec 31 14:56:01 tfh /kernel: psm0 at 0x60-0x64 irq 12 on motherboard Dec 31 14:56:01 tfh /kernel: psm0: model IntelliMouse, device ID 3 Dec 31 14:56:01 tfh /kernel: pcm0 not probed due to drq conflict with pcm1 at 1 Dec 31 14:56:01 tfh /kernel: pca0 on motherboard Dec 31 14:56:01 tfh /kernel: pca0: PC speaker audio driver Dec 31 14:56:01 tfh /kernel: fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa Dec 31 14:56:01 tfh /kernel: fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold Dec 31 14:56:01 tfh /kernel: fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in Dec 31 14:56:01 tfh /kernel: wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 flags 0x80ff80 Dec 31 14:56:01 tfh /kernel: ff on isa Dec 31 14:56:01 tfh /kernel: wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): , 32-bit, multi-bl ock-16 Dec 31 14:56:01 tfh /kernel: wd0: 6149MB (12594960 sectors), 13328 cyls, 15 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S Dec 31 14:56:01 tfh /kernel: wdc0: unit 1 (wd1): , 32-bit, multi-b lock-16 Dec 31 14:56:01 tfh /kernel: wd1: 8063MB (16514064 sectors), 16383 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S Dec 31 14:56:01 tfh /kernel: wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa Dec 31 14:56:01 tfh /kernel: wdc1: unit 0 (atapi): > > Hello > > > > I see the following in my messages log : > > > > Jan 10 18:18:02 tfh /kernel: kernel trap 25 with interrupts disabled > > > > what does this mean ? > > > > % uname -a > > FreeBSD tfh.herbelot.nom 3.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT #5: Sun Dec 20 > > 21:04:37 CET 1998 > > thierry.herbelot@tfh.herbelot.nom:/usr/src/sys/compile/TFH i386 > > > > (Current cvsupped around Dec 19 13:01) > > According to Peter Wemm: > > DrZipLok: trap 25: My guess is one of either: > Drzip: race condition context switching between processes with their > own private TSS (wine for exmaple) > DrZip: 2: some sort of corruption of process or pcb/pcbext context > Drzip: 3: some sort of CPU incompatability (ie: kernel doesn't know > about variations (or bugs) in (say) K6 or Cyrix) > > Are you running eg. Wine? What hardware? Any other strange problems? > -- > \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith > \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au > \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org > \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 13:31:24 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA15697 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 13:31:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from korin.warman.org.pl (korin.nask.waw.pl [195.187.243.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA15688 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 13:31:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from abial@nask.pl) Received: from localhost (abial@localhost) by korin.warman.org.pl (8.9.1/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA01413; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 22:36:28 +0100 (CET) X-Authentication-Warning: korin.warman.org.pl: abial owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 22:36:28 +0100 (CET) From: Andrzej Bialecki X-Sender: abial@korin.warman.org.pl To: Doug Rabson cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , "John W. DeBoskey" , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Boot.flp doesn't In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 10 Jan 1999, Doug Rabson wrote: > On Sun, 10 Jan 1999, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > > it looks like the loader doesn't understand a gzipped kernel. > > > > Yeah, it also looks like we're going to be out of the release business > > for awhile. We've hit another space crunch and I'm not yet sure > > what to do about it. > > Is the floppy kernel stripped? There is really no need for symbols in > sysinstall's environment (I think). It shouldbe, and I think it surely is. We can also remove .note and .comment, but this gives only 150B... Andrzej Bialecki -------------------- ++-------++ ------------------------------------- ||PicoBSD|| FreeBSD in your pocket? Go and see: Research & Academic |+-------+| "Small & Embedded FreeBSD" Network in Poland | |TT~~~| | http://www.freebsd.org/~picobsd/ -------------------- ~-+==---+-+ ------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 13:40:56 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA16955 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 13:40:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA16950 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 13:40:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dgobe@mcs.net) Received: from mcs.net (dgobe.pr.mcs.net [204.137.234.195]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.8.7/8.8.2) with ESMTP id PAA23929 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 15:40:21 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <36991DB6.A75FBE68@mcs.net> Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 15:37:58 -0600 From: "David A. Gobeille" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Header files missing for ppbus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG When rebuilding the kernel (Current supped a few hours ago): make depend ... ../../dev/ppbus/nlpt.c:87: opt_nlpt.h: No such file or directory ../../dev/ppbus/ppb_1284.c:34: opt_ppb_1284.h: No such file or directory ../../dev/ppbus/ppbconf.c:40: opt_ppb_1284.h: No such file or directory ../../i386/isa/ppc.c:52: opt_ppc.h: No such file or directory mkdep: compile failed *** Error code 1 Stop. -- Dave To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 13:41:10 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA17162 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 13:41:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from st-lcremean.tidalwave.net (st-lcremean.tidalwave.net [208.213.203.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA17142 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 13:41:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lee@st-lcremean.tidalwave.net) Received: (from lee@localhost) by st-lcremean.tidalwave.net (8.9.1/8.8.8) id QAA53115; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 16:39:39 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from lee) Message-ID: <19990110163939.A53089@tidalwave.net> Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 16:39:39 -0500 From: Lee Cremeans To: Ying-Chieh Liao Cc: Kenneth Wayne Culver , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ide_pci Reply-To: lcremean@tidalwave.net References: <19990110024647.A50225@tidalwave.net> <19990110203219.A743@terry.dragon2.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <19990110203219.A743@terry.dragon2.net>; from Ying-Chieh Liao on Sun, Jan 10, 1999 at 08:32:19PM +0800 X-OS: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT X-Evil: microsoft.com Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Jan 10, 1999 at 08:32:19PM +0800, Ying-Chieh Liao wrote: > On Sun, Jan 10, 1999 at 02:46:47 -0500, Lee Cremeans wrote: > > I was one of the people working on stuff for this board; I got around the > > BMISTA_SIMPLEX bug by disabling the check for it, first with > > > > options DISABLE_PCI_IDE > > i have a question : > since this options can solve 2nd ide channel problem, why not introduce this > options in LINT ? This does sound like a good idea to me, but I think there's already been a fix committed to wd.c for it. Apparently options ALI_V also does the trick, if you have version 1.182 of wd.c (do ident /sys/i386/isa/wd.c to check). As for the patches, I'll fix them now. -- +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Lee Cremeans -- Manassas, VA, USA (WakkyMouse on DALnet and WTnet)| | lcremean@tidalwave.net| http://st-lcremean.tidalwave.net/~lee | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 14:02:53 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA19780 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 14:02:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from korin.warman.org.pl (korin.nask.waw.pl [195.187.243.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA19774 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 14:02:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from abial@nask.pl) Received: from localhost (abial@localhost) by korin.warman.org.pl (8.9.1/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA06249; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 23:07:55 +0100 (CET) X-Authentication-Warning: korin.warman.org.pl: abial owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 23:07:55 +0100 (CET) From: Andrzej Bialecki X-Sender: abial@korin.warman.org.pl To: Doug Rabson cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , "John W. DeBoskey" , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Boot.flp doesn't In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 10 Jan 1999, Doug Rabson wrote: > On Sun, 10 Jan 1999, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > > it looks like the loader doesn't understand a gzipped kernel. > > > > Yeah, it also looks like we're going to be out of the release business > > for awhile. We've hit another space crunch and I'm not yet sure > > what to do about it. ....forgot about three more: * add NO_IPX flag to ifconfig's Makefile and source, define this flag for RELEASE_CRUNCH, and remove libipx from crunch.conf * remove 'options "COMPAT_43"' - experiments have shown that this particular set of programs doesn't care. * add: options NO_LKM options NO_SWAPPING options NO_F00F_HACK Andrzej Bialecki -------------------- ++-------++ ------------------------------------- ||PicoBSD|| FreeBSD in your pocket? Go and see: Research & Academic |+-------+| "Small & Embedded FreeBSD" Network in Poland | |TT~~~| | http://www.freebsd.org/~picobsd/ -------------------- ~-+==---+-+ ------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 14:10:26 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA20510 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 14:10:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Sisyphos.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE (Sisyphos.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE [134.95.212.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA20487; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 14:10:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from se@dialup124.zpr.uni-koeln.de) Received: from dialup124.zpr.Uni-Koeln.DE (dialup124.zpr.Uni-Koeln.DE [134.95.219.124]) by Sisyphos.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA20106; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 23:09:20 +0100 (MET) Received: (from se@localhost) by dialup124.zpr.Uni-Koeln.DE (8.9.1/8.6.9) id XAA43391; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 23:09:39 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 23:09:39 +0100 From: Stefan Esser To: lcremean@tidalwave.net Cc: Kenneth Wayne Culver , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, Stefan Esser Subject: Re: ide_pci Message-ID: <19990110230939.A43344@dialup124.mi.uni-koeln.de> Reply-To: se@FreeBSD.ORG Mail-Followup-To: lcremean@tidalwave.net, Kenneth Wayne Culver , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG References: <19990110024647.A50225@tidalwave.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: <19990110024647.A50225@tidalwave.net>; from Lee Cremeans on Sun, Jan 10, 1999 at 02:46:47AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 1999-01-10 02:46 -0500, Lee Cremeans wrote: > beautifully, pulling down 13+ MB/s from my Seagate Medalist Pro 9140, but > writes were kinda recalcitrant, and I think that may have been because I > overclocked the PCI bus on my board -- I need to test it at 33 MHz. I can't EIDE DMA writes are directly coupled to the external clock and will come out way too high if you overclock your CPU. Some EIDE tolerate 10% to 15% higher bus clocks, but some fail even at 5% more than specified! But it is possible to reduce the EIDE clock by choosing a higher divider value in some controller register, unless you are using an external clock of more than 100MHz ... Going to DMA Mode 1 transfers should make writes work at half the UDMA data rate times your overclocking factor, which should still be fast enough ;-) Regards, STefan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 14:16:17 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA21064 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 14:16:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from st-lcremean.tidalwave.net (st-lcremean.tidalwave.net [208.213.203.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA21059 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 14:16:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lee@st-lcremean.tidalwave.net) Received: (from lee@localhost) by st-lcremean.tidalwave.net (8.9.1/8.8.8) id RAA53261; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 17:15:38 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from lee) Message-ID: <19990110171538.B53089@tidalwave.net> Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 17:15:38 -0500 From: Lee Cremeans To: Kenneth Wayne Culver , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ide_pci Reply-To: lcremean@tidalwave.net References: <19990110024647.A50225@tidalwave.net> <19990110230939.A43344@dialup124.mi.uni-koeln.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <19990110230939.A43344@dialup124.mi.uni-koeln.de>; from Stefan Esser on Sun, Jan 10, 1999 at 11:09:39PM +0100 X-OS: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT X-Evil: microsoft.com Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Going to DMA Mode 1 transfers should make writes work at > half the UDMA data rate times your overclocking factor, > which should still be fast enough ;-) I think we should have a flag in wdc for this...do we have the space? (And in my experience, multiword DMA mode 2 always worked fine on my overclocked boards, and we don't support anything slower anyhow.) -- +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Lee Cremeans -- Manassas, VA, USA (WakkyMouse on DALnet and WTnet)| | lcremean@tidalwave.net| http://st-lcremean.tidalwave.net/~lee | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 14:29:45 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA22675 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 14:29:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (osmium.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA22668 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 14:29:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wilko@yedi.iaf.nl) Received: by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl with UUCP id AA12394 (5.67b/IDA-1.5); Sun, 10 Jan 1999 23:26:18 +0100 Received: (from wilko@localhost) by yedi.iaf.nl (8.8.8/8.6.12) id WAA08170; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 22:46:47 +0100 (CET) From: Wilko Bulte Message-Id: <199901102146.WAA08170@yedi.iaf.nl> Subject: Re: State of the union, 1999. In-Reply-To: <199901102056.MAA72758@float.dyn.ml.org> from Jake at "Jan 10, 99 12:56:14 pm" To: jake@checker.org (Jake) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 22:46:47 +0100 (CET) Cc: jkh@zippy.cdrom.com, current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Organisation: Private FreeBSD site - Arnhem, The Netherlands X-Pgp-Info: PGP public key at 'finger wilko@freefall.freebsd.org' X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As Jake wrote... > > > How about some non-geeky paraphernalia (your mailer doesn't do spell > > > checking, does it ?) ? > > > > It's in the pipeline. > > > > An outlet for this stuff in Canada would be nice if one doesn't already exist. > > I'd like a hat, a t-shirt and a decal for my computer, (mug would also be > cool) > but the state of the dollar and shipping costs make it prohibitively > expensive to order from California. AFAIK this is a generic problem. We have the same thing here in Europe (maybe worse with regards to shipping cost). We are now lucky enough to have FreeBSD CDs available in the shops (for NLG 50, say US$ 25-30 ; not bad). Paraphernalia are probably not interesting for local shops to carry. Wilko _ ______________________________________________________________________ | / o / / _ Bulte email: wilko@yedi.iaf.nl |/|/ / / /( (_) Arnhem, The Netherlands WWW : http://www.tcja.nl ______________________________________________ Powered by FreeBSD __________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 14:32:13 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA23012 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 14:32:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp04.wxs.nl (smtp04.wxs.nl [195.121.6.59]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA23002 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 14:32:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.56.126]) by smtp04.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA360C; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 23:31:35 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <36991DB6.A75FBE68@mcs.net> Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 23:39:10 +0100 (CET) Organization: Ninth Circle Enterprises From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: "David A. Gobeille" Subject: RE: Header files missing for ppbus Cc: "freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 10-Jan-99 David A. Gobeille wrote: > When rebuilding the kernel (Current supped a few hours ago): > > make depend > > ... > > ../../dev/ppbus/nlpt.c:87: opt_nlpt.h: No such file or directory > ../../dev/ppbus/ppb_1284.c:34: opt_ppb_1284.h: No such file or directory > ../../dev/ppbus/ppbconf.c:40: opt_ppb_1284.h: No such file or directory > ../../i386/isa/ppc.c:52: opt_ppc.h: No such file or directory > mkdep: compile failed > *** Error code 1 Nicolas verified he forgot to commit this option headerfile, please cvsup again... --- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven A veil of smoke is what I am, asmodai(at)wxs.nl I wait and I wait... Network/Security Specialist BSD & picoBSD: The Power to Serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 14:42:24 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA24347 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 14:42:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from www0p.netaddress.usa.net (www0p.netaddress.usa.net [204.68.24.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA24341 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 14:42:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from slpalmer@netscape.net) Received: (qmail 27343 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Jan 1999 22:39:23 -0000 Message-ID: <19990110223923.27342.qmail@www0p.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.24.45 by www0p via web-mailer(R2.6) on Sun Jan 10 22:39:23 GMT 1999 Date: 10 Jan 99 22:39:23 America/Fort_Wayne From: Stephen Palmer To: son@teaser.fr, Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai Subject: Re: [Re: [Re: Request fo help with Zip Drive on vpo0 in -current]] CC: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, dfr@nlsystems.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id OAA24342 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Success! da0 is now detected on my system as long as I give flags 0x1 or 0x4 to ppc0. This forces the chipset to "Generic" rather than "SMC". Not setting the flags causes the chipset to be detected correctly, but da0 not to be detected. Thanks for the good work! I can send verbose dmesg output to anyone interested in squashing the remaining inconvieniances. Stephen L. Palmer slpalmer@netscape.net > And I apologize, I forgot to commit options anyway :( > > -- > nsouch@teaser.fr / nsouch@freebsd.org > FreeBSD - Turning PCs into workstations - http://www.FreeBSD.org --- | Stephen L. Palmer | Sprint Paranet slpalmer@netscape.net \|/ slpalmer@sprintparanet.com "There are thousands of intelligent species in the Universe, and they all own cats." -Unknown ____________________________________________________________________ More than just email--Get your FREE Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/netcenter/mail To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 14:49:49 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA25024 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 14:49:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from www0p.netaddress.usa.net (www0p.netaddress.usa.net [204.68.24.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA25018 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 14:49:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from slpalmer@netscape.net) Received: (qmail 28637 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Jan 1999 22:46:50 -0000 Message-ID: <19990110224650.28636.qmail@www0p.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.24.45 by www0p via web-mailer(R2.6) on Sun Jan 10 22:46:50 GMT 1999 Date: 10 Jan 99 22:46:50 America/Fort_Wayne From: Stephen Palmer To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Joliet patches to -current added to PR kern/5038 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id OAA25020 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 1/7/99, patches to -current were added to the end of PR kern/5038. These applied cleanly to my system, and appear to work great! My vote (as if it counts to anything) is to commit these into -current. This is fuctionality I've needed for a while and I'd be glad to see added. Thanks for listening! Stephen L. Palmer slpalmer@netscape.net --- | Stephen L. Palmer | Sprint Paranet slpalmer@netscape.net \|/ slpalmer@sprintparanet.com "There are thousands of intelligent species in the Universe, and they all own cats." -Unknown ____________________________________________________________________ More than just email--Get your FREE Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/netcenter/mail To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 14:57:07 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA25869 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 14:57:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (baerenklau.de.freebsd.org [195.185.195.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA25861; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 14:57:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from w@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id XAA27277; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 23:56:25 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from w@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from w@localhost) by campa.panke.de.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA04164; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 23:39:25 +0100 (MET) (envelope-from w) Message-ID: <19990110233923.A4157@panke.de.freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 23:39:23 +0100 From: Wolfram Schneider To: The Hermit Hacker , "Jonathan M. Bresler" Cc: jabley@clear.co.nz, jkh@zippy.cdrom.com, brian@hyperreal.org, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendmail throughput (was: HEADS UP: Postfix is coming. new uid, gid required.) References: <199901041358.FAA16846@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.1i In-Reply-To: ; from The Hermit Hacker on Mon, Jan 04, 1999 at 11:24:49AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 1999-01-04 11:24:49 -0400, The Hermit Hacker wrote: > On Mon, 4 Jan 1999, Jonathan M. Bresler wrote: > > > > Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 21:04:54 +1300 > > > From: Joe Abley > > > > > > Just out of interest... What volume of messages typically flow through the > > > freebsd-* lists? Out of all the subscribers of all the freebsd lists, how > > > many unique subscriber addresses are there? > > > > over 22,000 unique email addresses. > > > > Volume: > > > > posfix (for all of yesterday, sunday jan 3rd) > > sent: 329956 > > deferred: 241607 > > bounced: 2167 > > How many distinct email messages, or is that what htis number represents? If you are subscribed to all freebsd-* mailing lists, you will receive ~450 messages / day. -- Wolfram Schneider http://freebsd.org/~w/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 15:44:17 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA00444 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 15:44:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from polaris.we.lc.ehu.es (polaris.we.lc.ehu.es [158.227.6.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA00439 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 15:44:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jose@we.lc.ehu.es) Received: from we.lc.ehu.es (lxpxez.lx.ehu.es [158.227.99.229]) by polaris.we.lc.ehu.es (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA02522; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 00:43:34 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <36993B21.2A19A836@we.lc.ehu.es> Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 00:43:29 +0100 From: "José Mª Alcaide" Organization: Universidad del País Vasco - Dept. Electricidad y Electrónica X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Zanker CC: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: No vpo man page References: <4.1.19990110174206.00940870@aire.open.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike Zanker wrote: > > One more thing - it fails when I try and mount a Zip disk with a DOS > filesystem on it. Does the driver only support a FreeBSD filesystem? > What slice are you trying to mount? I don't know why, but [some] DOS-formatted ZIPs have the filesystem in slice 4. Use the fdisk utility to ask for slices. -- JMA ----------------------------------------------------------------------- José Mª Alcaide | mailto:jose@we.lc.ehu.es Universidad del País Vasco | http://www.we.lc.ehu.es/~jose Dpto. de Electricidad y Electrónica | Facultad de Ciencias - Campus de Lejona | Tel.: +34-946012479 48940 Lejona (Vizcaya) - SPAIN | Fax: +34-944858139 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- "Go ahead... make my day." - H. Callahan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 15:49:02 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA00764 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 15:49:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from trinity.radio-do.de (trinity.Radio-do.de [193.101.164.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA00758 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 15:48:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fn@trinity.radio-do.de) Received: (from fn@localhost) by trinity.radio-do.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA02282; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 00:48:45 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from fn) To: Julian Elischer Cc: Kenneth Wayne Culver , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SOFTUPDATES References: From: Frank Nobis Date: 11 Jan 1999 00:48:45 +0100 In-Reply-To: Julian Elischer's message of "Fri, 8 Jan 1999 11:00:59 -0800 (PST)" Message-ID: Lines: 51 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070065 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.65) XEmacs/20.4 (Emerald) Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "Julian" == Julian Elischer writes: Julian> I hope you have it on your /usr/obj partition, because Julian> that's where it would be used and make a difference. It Julian> only affects writes. At the moment it is all on /usr root@trinity:ttyp0# df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/da0s1a 119055 24065 85466 22% / /dev/da0s1f 7845429 1108339 6109456 15% /usr /dev/da0s1e 99183 7102 84147 8% /var procfs 4 4 0 100% /proc /dev/da1s1h 2032623 1 1870013 0% /export2 /dev/da3s1h 1951407 150384 1644911 8% /export4 /dev/da4s1h 4266912 3409329 857583 80% /export5 gatekeeper:/home 992751 826798 86533 91% /home gatekeeper:/var/mail 496367 265825 190833 58% /var/mail /dev/da2s2h 2051070 2 2051068 0% /export root@trinity:ttyp0# mount /dev/da0s1a on / (local, writes: sync 31 async 25205) /dev/da0s1f on /usr (local, soft-updates, writes: sync 1087 async 190831) /dev/da0s1e on /var (local, writes: sync 66227 async 108266) procfs on /proc (local) /dev/da1s1h on /export2 (NFS exported, local, writes: sync 116 async 26865) /dev/da3s1h on /export4 (NFS exported, local, writes: sync 2 async 1569) /dev/da4s1h on /export5 (NFS exported, local, soft-updates, writes: sync 477 async 123440) I will do some tests on the slowe drive mounted on /export5 and /usr/obj linked /export5 Dec 31 15:11:31 trinity /kernel: da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device Dec 31 15:11:32 trinity /kernel: da0: 40.0MB/s transfers (20.0MHz, offset 15, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled Dec 31 15:11:32 trinity /kernel: da0: 8683MB (17783240 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1106C) da0 is at ahc0. The other drives are on ahc1. Dec 31 15:11:31 trinity /kernel: ahc0: rev 0x00 int a irq 19 on pci0.6.0 Dec 31 15:11:31 trinity /kernel: ahc0: aic7890/91 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs Dec 31 15:11:31 trinity /kernel: ahc1: rev 0x03 inta irq 16 on pci0.12.0 Dec 31 15:11:31 trinity /kernel: ahc1: aic7870 Single Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs -- Frank Nobis Email: PGP AVAILABLE Landgrafenstr. 130 dg3dcn http://www.radio-do.de/~fn/ 44139 Dortmund Powered by SMP FreeBSD To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 16:00:14 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA02169 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 16:00:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from janus.syracuse.net (janus.syracuse.net [205.232.47.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA02164 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 16:00:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from green@unixhelp.org) Received: from localhost (green@localhost) by janus.syracuse.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA25810; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 18:59:16 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 18:59:15 -0500 (EST) From: Brian Feldman X-Sender: green@janus.syracuse.net To: Andrzej Bialecki cc: Doug Rabson , "Jordan K. Hubbard" , "John W. DeBoskey" , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Boot.flp doesn't In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 10 Jan 1999, Andrzej Bialecki wrote: > On Sun, 10 Jan 1999, Doug Rabson wrote: > > > On Sun, 10 Jan 1999, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > > > > it looks like the loader doesn't understand a gzipped kernel. > > > > > > Yeah, it also looks like we're going to be out of the release business > > > for awhile. We've hit another space crunch and I'm not yet sure > > > what to do about it. > > > > Is the floppy kernel stripped? There is really no need for symbols in > > sysinstall's environment (I think). > > It shouldbe, and I think it surely is. We can also remove .note and > .comment, but this gives only 150B... If you compile pdksh in sh (not ksh) mode: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 253856 Jan 10 18:58 sh > > Andrzej Bialecki > > -------------------- ++-------++ ------------------------------------- > ||PicoBSD|| FreeBSD in your pocket? Go and see: > Research & Academic |+-------+| "Small & Embedded FreeBSD" > Network in Poland | |TT~~~| | http://www.freebsd.org/~picobsd/ > -------------------- ~-+==---+-+ ------------------------------------- > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > Brian Feldman _ __ ___ ___ ___ green@unixhelp.org _ __ ___ | _ ) __| \ http://www.freebsd.org/ _ __ ___ ____ | _ \__ \ |) | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! _ __ ___ ____ _____ |___/___/___/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 16:04:03 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA03609 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 16:04:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA03533 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 16:03:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id KAA10204; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 10:32:59 +1030 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) id KAA18345; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 10:32:32 +1030 (CST) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 10:32:32 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Jake Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: a standard way to start vinum? Message-ID: <19990111103232.A8886@freebie.lemis.com> References: <199901102039.MAA48069@float.dyn.ml.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: <199901102039.MAA48069@float.dyn.ml.org>; from Jake on Sun, Jan 10, 1999 at 12:39:37PM -0800 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sunday, 10 January 1999 at 12:39:37 -0800, Jake wrote: > Can we have stubs to start vinum added to /etc/rc and /etc/rc.conf ? Yes. > Something like: > > in rc.conf : > > vinum_enable="YES" # Run the vinum volume manager (or NO). > vinum_device="/dev/wd0s1e" # Drive to get config info from. > > and rc : > > # Configure vinum devices. > if [ "X${vinum_enable}" = X"YES" ]; then > vinum read ${vinum_device} > fi Yes, this sounds pretty reasonable. In the near future, the `read' command will change and will require the names of *all* vinum slices (this is the only way to allow moving them around). > swapon -a > > Assuming that "vinum read ${device}" and "vinum create ${config_file}" > are identical, This is not just a bad idea, it's just plain wrong. > something like > > if [ -f /etc/vinum.conf ]; then > vinum create /etc/vinum.conf > fi > > might be more desireable, just in case the on disk info gets > scrambled. That's a recovery strategy, not a configuration method. It's also dangerous. What happens if the disks get moved around? > This happened to me last night ( no idea why :) ) and I was saved by > the virtue that my config file was still hanging around. If you have problems like this, please report them. One reason might be if you issued two read commands. A fix for that, and many other ways of shooting yourself in the foot, is under way. Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 16:05:01 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA04120 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 16:05:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.skylink.it (ns.skylink.it [194.177.113.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA04084 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 16:04:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hibma@skylink.it) Received: from heidi.plazza.it (va-143.skylink.it [194.177.113.143]) by ns.skylink.it (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA03279; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 01:02:49 +0100 Received: from localhost (n_hibma@localhost) by heidi.plazza.it (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA02266; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 01:06:24 +0100 (CET) X-Authentication-Warning: heidi.plazza.it: n_hibma owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 01:06:24 +0100 (CET) From: Nick Hibma X-Sender: n_hibma@heidi.plazza.it Reply-To: Nick Hibma To: FreeBSD current Mailing list cc: USB BSD list Subject: Hand needed: debugging the USB mouse driver Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG If there are people that would like to get their hands dirty on some programming in FreeBSD, but don't know where to start... The ums driver (dev/usb/ums.c) requires some work to get the Z direction working. The mouse works in X/Y directions and 3 buttons, but not Z. Two things could be done: 1) Debug the IntelliMouse that is currently implemented (and not working) 2) Convert the whole protocol used to Sysmouse. This is much better as we might end up with USB mice with lots more buttons and directions and it would be far easier to accomodate for that in the sysmouse protocol. The work consists of digging through the mouse protocols (PS/2, sysmouse, IntelliMouse, etc.). This protocol information can be fetched from psm.c, moused and i386/include/mouse.h, or maybe elsewhere. Even when you have no USB mouse, it should be possible to get most of it working. My estimate is that it is about a days work if you are not familiar with the mouse protocol and a lot less if you are. Cheers, Nick Hibma -- e-Mail: hibma@skylink.it To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 16:09:41 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA04935 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 16:09:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gjp.erols.com (alex-va-n008c079.moon.jic.com [206.156.18.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA04930 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 16:09:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gjp@gjp.erols.com) Received: from gjp.erols.com (localhost.erols.com [127.0.0.1]) by gjp.erols.com (8.9.1/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA00715; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 19:09:04 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gjp@gjp.erols.com) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: State of the union, 1999. In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 10 Jan 1999 12:19:52 PST." <53022.915999592@zippy.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 19:09:04 -0500 Message-ID: <711.916013344@gjp.erols.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote in message ID <53022.915999592@zippy.cdrom.com>: > > How about some non-geeky paraphernalia (your mailer doesn't do spell > > checking, does it ?) ? > > It's in the pipeline. You are finally going to a mailer with spellchecking?!? HORRORS!!! :) Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 16:16:30 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA05309 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 16:16:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nina.pagesz.net (nina.pagesz.net [208.194.157.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA05304 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 16:16:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rhh@pagesz.net) Received: from stealth.dummynet. (juana-3.pagesz.net [208.213.126.3]) by nina.pagesz.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA17266 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 19:15:57 -0500 Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.dummynet. (8.9.1/8.8.8) id TAA08831 for current@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 19:15:59 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rhh) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 19:15:59 -0500 From: Randall Hopper To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: State of the union, 1999. Message-ID: <19990110191559.A7530@pagesz.net> References: <49859.915950870@zippy.cdrom.com> <199901101303.NAA05707@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: <199901101303.NAA05707@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org>; from Brian Somers on Sun, Jan 10, 1999 at 01:03:51PM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Brian Somers: |[.....] |> people. We can also produce more marketing periphenalia like buttons, |> stickers, new T-shirts, etc. to give people a wider array of stuff to |> proudly point to in support of the "emerging FreeBSD phenomenon." |[.....] | |How about some non-geeky paraphernalia (your mailer doesn't do spell |checking, does it ?) ? | |I can't see myself ever wearing a FreeBSD T-Shirt or peaked cap, but |I'd certainly invest in a few mouse mats or mugs. I'd be happy to The Polo shirts are pretty nice and not too "geeky". But I second the mugs and stickers ideas. Anyone selling a slick-looking stuffed daemon (Chuck). My office could use some color :-) How about posters. Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 16:18:58 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA05645 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 16:18:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from janus.syracuse.net (janus.syracuse.net [205.232.47.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA05630 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 16:18:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from green@unixhelp.org) Received: from localhost (green@localhost) by janus.syracuse.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA26803; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 19:18:13 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 19:18:13 -0500 (EST) From: Brian Feldman X-Sender: green@janus.syracuse.net To: Andrzej Bialecki cc: Doug Rabson , "Jordan K. Hubbard" , "John W. DeBoskey" , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Boot.flp doesn't In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 10 Jan 1999, Andrzej Bialecki wrote: > On Sun, 10 Jan 1999, Doug Rabson wrote: > > > On Sun, 10 Jan 1999, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > > > > it looks like the loader doesn't understand a gzipped kernel. > > > > > > Yeah, it also looks like we're going to be out of the release business > > > for awhile. We've hit another space crunch and I'm not yet sure > > > what to do about it. > > ....forgot about three more: > > * add NO_IPX flag to ifconfig's Makefile and source, define this flag for > RELEASE_CRUNCH, and remove libipx from crunch.conf > > * remove 'options "COMPAT_43"' - experiments have shown that this > particular set of programs doesn't care. > > * add: > options NO_LKM > options NO_SWAPPING > options NO_F00F_HACK Oh come on, NO_F00F_HACK? This is damned insubstantial. NO_LKM and NO_SWAPPING would be okay, but in the long term if NO_LKM messes (not to say it does) KLD's up, it shouldn't be removed. Hmm... if NO_LKM doesn't stop KLD's from working at all, should LKM support be in the kernel at all anymore? And seriously, if 70/80 kb (less compressed, of course) matters, it might be worth it to import pdksh and compile it in sh (not ksh) mode... of course licensing being not an issue ;) > > > Andrzej Bialecki > > -------------------- ++-------++ ------------------------------------- > ||PicoBSD|| FreeBSD in your pocket? Go and see: > Research & Academic |+-------+| "Small & Embedded FreeBSD" > Network in Poland | |TT~~~| | http://www.freebsd.org/~picobsd/ > -------------------- ~-+==---+-+ ------------------------------------- > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > Brian Feldman _ __ ___ ___ ___ green@unixhelp.org _ __ ___ | _ ) __| \ http://www.freebsd.org/ _ __ ___ ____ | _ \__ \ |) | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! _ __ ___ ____ _____ |___/___/___/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 16:30:23 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA06486 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 16:30:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from janus.syracuse.net (janus.syracuse.net [205.232.47.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA06481 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 16:30:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from green@unixhelp.org) Received: from localhost (green@localhost) by janus.syracuse.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA27469; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 19:29:51 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 19:29:51 -0500 (EST) From: Brian Feldman X-Sender: green@janus.syracuse.net To: Nick Hibma cc: FreeBSD current Mailing list , USB BSD list Subject: Re: Hand needed: debugging the USB mouse driver In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On a USB-related note, why is USB_DEBUG not working anymore? I mean that in the philosophical sense, since I can tell it just makes vars like usbdebug that get tested and used, but they default to 0. This doesn't help me much since I can't work on figuring out what's wrong with the USB code & my controller when the system has to have already been booted so I can hit an ioctl and turn on the debugging. By this time, my controller's already halted :( So for now I'll just change int usbdebug = 0; int uhcidebug; int ohcidebug; and initialize them all to 100, but does this really seem right to you? Brian Feldman _ __ ___ ___ ___ green@unixhelp.org _ __ ___ | _ ) __| \ http://www.freebsd.org/ _ __ ___ ____ | _ \__ \ |) | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! _ __ ___ ____ _____ |___/___/___/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 16:56:05 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA08540 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 16:56:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from arnold.swimsuit.internet.dk (mail.swimsuit.internet.dk [194.255.12.232]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA08535 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 16:56:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from leif@swimsuit.internet.dk) Received: from localhost (leif@localhost) by arnold.swimsuit.internet.dk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA20043 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 01:55:05 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from leif@arnold.swimsuit.internet.dk) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 01:55:03 +0100 (CET) From: Leif Neland To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: i4b devices not made Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG MAKEDEV doesn't create any needed devices for i4b. in majors.i386, all numbers with isdn are named OLDxxxx, and they don't work either, at least with minor 0. Leif To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 17:02:15 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA09225 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 17:02:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from animal.cs.chalmers.se (animal.cs.chalmers.se [129.16.225.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA09219 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 17:02:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from augustss@cs.chalmers.se) Received: from dogbert.cs.chalmers.se (dogbert.cs.chalmers.se [129.16.225.50]) by animal.cs.chalmers.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA28280; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 02:01:36 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 02:01:36 +0100 (MET) From: Lennart Augustsson Message-Id: <199901110101.CAA28280@animal.cs.chalmers.se> Received: by dogbert.cs.chalmers.se (8.8.8/3.14+gl) id BAA06346; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 01:01:36 GMT To: usb-bsd@egroups.com CC: hibma@skylink.it, current@FreeBSD.ORG, usb-bsd@makelist.com In-reply-to: (message from Brian Feldman on Sun, 10 Jan 1999 19:29:51 -0500 (EST)) Subject: Re: [usb-bsd] Re: Hand needed: debugging the USB mouse driver References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I'll just change int usbdebug = 0; > int uhcidebug; > int ohcidebug; > and initialize them all to 100, but does this really seem right to you? That way lies madness. :-) If you want to debug during the boot why don't you boot into the debugger and set the appropriate variables? (I assume you can do this in FreeBSD). -- Lennart To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 17:09:16 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA09737 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 17:09:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smarter.than.nu (thought.calbbs.com [207.71.213.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA09732 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 17:09:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brian@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smarter.than.nu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA04348; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 17:08:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brian@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 17:08:27 -0800 (PST) From: "Brian W. Buchanan" X-Sender: brian@smarter.than.nu To: Randall Hopper cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: State of the union, 1999. In-Reply-To: <19990110191559.A7530@pagesz.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 10 Jan 1999, Randall Hopper wrote: > The Polo shirts are pretty nice and not too "geeky". But I second the mugs > and stickers ideas. The Polo shirts look good on geeks and non-geeks alike; I'm eagerly awaiting the arrival of mine. Stickers are available from www.freebsdmall.com. I ordered two sheets of them along with the two 1" case plates for my boxes, so that I could put a sticker on the Libretto I'm about to buy. > > Anyone selling a slick-looking stuffed daemon (Chuck). My office could use > some color :-) How about posters. http://www.freebsd.org/copyright/daemon.html has a link to a place that sells them. I'd really love to see some posters with Chuck. I think one of Chuck with a starfield background, a little motion blur, and a big yellow "The Power to Serve" logo at the top would look teriffic on the wall next to my PC. :) Unfortunately, I can't draw for crap, my GIMP skills are lacking, and I haven't found any pictures of Chuck facing forward, looking powerful and bold, with his trident planted in the ground beside him. :( If anyone else wants to design and market such a poster, however, I'll buy several. -- Brian Buchanan brian@smarter.than.nu brian@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 17:25:36 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA11414 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 17:25:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from po4.wam.umd.edu (po4.wam.umd.edu [128.8.10.166]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA11403 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 17:25:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from culverk@wam.umd.edu) Received: from rac1.wam.umd.edu ((IDENT root)@rac1.wam.umd.edu [128.8.10.141]) by po4.wam.umd.edu (8.9.0.Beta6/8.9.0.Beta6) with ESMTP id UAA06568; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 20:26:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from rac1.wam.umd.edu ((IDENT sendmail)@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rac1.wam.umd.edu (8.9.0.Beta6/8.9.0.Beta6) with SMTP id UAA08898; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 20:24:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by rac1.wam.umd.edu (8.9.0.Beta6/8.9.0.Beta6) with SMTP id UAA08893; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 20:24:56 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: rac1.wam.umd.edu: culverk owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 20:24:56 -0500 (EST) From: Kenneth Wayne Culver To: "Brian W. Buchanan" cc: Randall Hopper , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: State of the union, 1999. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Sun, 10 Jan 1999, Randall Hopper wrote: > > > The Polo shirts are pretty nice and not too "geeky". But I second the mugs > > and stickers ideas. > > The Polo shirts look good on geeks and non-geeks alike; I'm eagerly > awaiting the arrival of mine. Stickers are available from > www.freebsdmall.com. I ordered two sheets of them along with the two 1" > case plates for my boxes, so that I could put a sticker on the Libretto > I'm about to buy. > > > > > Anyone selling a slick-looking stuffed daemon (Chuck). My office could use > > some color :-) How about posters. > > http://www.freebsd.org/copyright/daemon.html has a link to a place that > sells them. > > I'd really love to see some posters with Chuck. I think one of Chuck with > a starfield background, a little motion blur, and a big yellow "The Power > to Serve" logo at the top would look teriffic on the wall next to my PC. :) > > Unfortunately, I can't draw for crap, my GIMP skills are lacking, and > I haven't found any pictures of Chuck facing forward, looking powerful and > bold, with his trident planted in the ground beside him. :( If anyone > else wants to design and market such a poster, however, I'll buy several. > Same here, :-) Kenneth culver To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 17:29:54 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA11674 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 17:29:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA11667 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 17:29:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from julian@whistle.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by alpo.whistle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA26817; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 17:20:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from s204m82.isp.whistle.com(207.76.204.82) via SMTP by alpo.whistle.com, id smtpdj26804; Mon Jan 11 01:20:17 1999 Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 16:20:17 -0800 (PST) From: Julian Elischer X-Sender: julian@s204m82.isp.whistle.com To: Frank Nobis cc: Kenneth Wayne Culver , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SOFTUPDATES In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG also the slower the drive being written to the more softupdates helps :-) it makes best sence to make /usr/obj an slow drive with softupates on it :-) On 11 Jan 1999, Frank Nobis wrote: > >>>>> "Julian" == Julian Elischer writes: > > Julian> I hope you have it on your /usr/obj partition, because > Julian> that's where it would be used and make a difference. It > Julian> only affects writes. > > At the moment it is all on /usr > > root@trinity:ttyp0# df > Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > /dev/da0s1a 119055 24065 85466 22% / > /dev/da0s1f 7845429 1108339 6109456 15% /usr > /dev/da0s1e 99183 7102 84147 8% /var > procfs 4 4 0 100% /proc > /dev/da1s1h 2032623 1 1870013 0% /export2 > /dev/da3s1h 1951407 150384 1644911 8% /export4 > /dev/da4s1h 4266912 3409329 857583 80% /export5 > gatekeeper:/home 992751 826798 86533 91% /home > gatekeeper:/var/mail 496367 265825 190833 58% /var/mail > /dev/da2s2h 2051070 2 2051068 0% /export > root@trinity:ttyp0# mount > /dev/da0s1a on / (local, writes: sync 31 async 25205) > /dev/da0s1f on /usr (local, soft-updates, writes: sync 1087 async 190831) > /dev/da0s1e on /var (local, writes: sync 66227 async 108266) > procfs on /proc (local) > /dev/da1s1h on /export2 (NFS exported, local, writes: sync 116 async 26865) > /dev/da3s1h on /export4 (NFS exported, local, writes: sync 2 async 1569) > /dev/da4s1h on /export5 (NFS exported, local, soft-updates, writes: sync 477 async 123440) > > > I will do some tests on the slowe drive mounted on /export5 and > /usr/obj linked /export5 > > > Dec 31 15:11:31 trinity /kernel: da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device > Dec 31 15:11:32 trinity /kernel: da0: 40.0MB/s transfers (20.0MHz, offset 15, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled > Dec 31 15:11:32 trinity /kernel: da0: 8683MB (17783240 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1106C) > > da0 is at ahc0. The other drives are on ahc1. > > Dec 31 15:11:31 trinity /kernel: ahc0: rev 0x00 int a irq 19 on pci0.6.0 > Dec 31 15:11:31 trinity /kernel: ahc0: aic7890/91 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs > Dec 31 15:11:31 trinity /kernel: ahc1: rev 0x03 inta irq 16 on pci0.12.0 > Dec 31 15:11:31 trinity /kernel: ahc1: aic7870 Single Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs > > > -- > Frank Nobis Email: PGP AVAILABLE > Landgrafenstr. 130 dg3dcn http://www.radio-do.de/~fn/ > 44139 Dortmund Powered by SMP FreeBSD > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 17:45:03 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA13153 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 17:45:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA13110 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 17:44:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN) id KAA16227; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 10:44:22 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <3699443F.49314CE4@newsguy.com> Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 09:22:23 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: State of the union, 1999. References: <51666.915970263@zippy.cdrom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote: > > I know we've been a bit remiss in releasing information like this, but > that's mostly because much of our doc is either still at the > "pre-draft" stage or has become swiftly outdated and needs updating > before more general release. > > Since so many more people are asking, I'll make dealing with this a > higher priority for late-January (the middle is already sort of > crowded right now :). There is a new package system? Gee... where have I been? What's the binary? -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com "Heart like a Gabriel, pure and white as ivory, soul like a lucifer, black and cold as a piece of lead." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 17:45:25 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA13435 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 17:45:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA13410 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 17:45:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN) id KAA16263; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 10:44:38 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <369952D0.8AFC32C0@newsguy.com> Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 10:24:32 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alexander Leidinger CC: nsouch@teaser.fr, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: nlpt & polling mode didn't work References: <199901101751.SAA00559@Vodix.CS.Uni-SB.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Alexander Leidinger wrote: > > On 9 Jan, Nicolas Souchu wrote: > > >>No. lpt didn't work, but I remember it didn't work the first time I > >>tried it too. It worked only with nlpt. > > > > Timing then. nlpt is slower than lpt because of indirection calls. So > > something must have speedup the machine because nothing changed in nlpt since > > it was properly working. > > ??? Just a > make world > and a > make XFree-3.3.3 A -j8 (-j16 for smp machines) is indicated too... :-) -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com If you sell your soul to the Devil and all you get is an MCSE from it, you haven't gotten market rate. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 17:46:32 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA13632 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 17:46:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from send101.yahoomail.com (send101.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA13622 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 17:46:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ixkatl@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <19990111014508.9942.rocketmail@send101.yahoomail.com> Received: from [207.172.145.121] by send101.yahoomail.com; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 17:45:08 PST Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 17:45:08 -0800 (PST) From: Andrew Sherrod Subject: A problem with LBA in wd.c? To: current@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="0-1998898814-916019108=:1509" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --0-1998898814-916019108=:1509 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline I think I found a problem in the wd.ccode which makes it unable to recognize certain LBA disks. The code assumes any LBA disk will return 16383 as the number of cylinders. In my case, at least (Award BIOS on a Tyan Trinity motherboard) two of the three disks do NOT return this number, so the disk size is underestimated by the kernel probes. [Yes, I DID fix this by putting on a DOS partition, but wouldn'tit be nice to not have to rely on DOS partitions for disk geometry?] Well, I don't know if this fixes any other disk geometry problems, as I haven't tried it out very extensively, but this patch does make dmesg (and the boot time probes) return the correct number of sectors. Could anyone tell me if this breaks anything? And what the reasoning was behind the 16383 restriction. (After all, it only reaches that line of code if the LBA flag is set anyway. So we already know it is in LBA mode. The 16383 seems superfluous.) Andrew Sherrod _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com --0-1998898814-916019108=:1509 Content-Type: text/plain; name="diff.txt" Content-Description: diff.txt Content-Disposition: inline; filename="diff.txt" --- wd.c Sun Jan 10 20:47:05 1999 +++ wd.c.original Sun Jan 10 20:27:52 1999 @@ -1949,14 +1949,8 @@ du->dk_dd.d_ntracks * du->dk_dd.d_nsectors; du->dk_dd.d_secperunit = du->dk_dd.d_secpercyl * du->dk_dd.d_ncylinders; - - /* The original code assumed LBA would return - 16383 for number of cylinders. Not all BIOSes - return this value. Thus, the patch assumes if - an LBA value is returned, that LBA is active. - -A. Sherrod 01/10/1999 */ - - if( du->dk_dd.d_secperunit < wp->wdp_lbasize) { + if (wp->wdp_cylinders == 16383 && + du->dk_dd.d_secperunit < wp->wdp_lbasize) { du->dk_dd.d_secperunit = wp->wdp_lbasize; du->dk_dd.d_ncylinders = du->dk_dd.d_secperunit / du->dk_dd.d_secpercyl; --0-1998898814-916019108=:1509-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 17:55:50 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA14314 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 17:55:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from lionking.org (blacker-99.caltech.edu [131.215.86.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA14309 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 17:55:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from btman@ugcs.caltech.edu) Received: from localhost (btman@localhost) by lionking.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA14630; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 17:55:12 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: lionking.org: btman owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 17:55:12 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Tiemann X-Sender: btman@lionking.org To: Kenneth Wayne Culver cc: "Brian W. Buchanan" , Randall Hopper , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: State of the union, 1999. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 10 Jan 1999, Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote: > > Unfortunately, I can't draw for crap, my GIMP skills are lacking, and > > I haven't found any pictures of Chuck facing forward, looking powerful and > > bold, with his trident planted in the ground beside him. :( If anyone > > else wants to design and market such a poster, however, I'll buy several. > > > Same here, :-) Hmm... maybe something along these lines? http://www.lionking.org/~btman/chuck.jpg Brian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 17:57:32 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA14641 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 17:57:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA14633 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 17:57:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA54614; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 17:56:43 -0800 (PST) To: "Daniel C. Sobral" cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: State of the union, 1999. In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 11 Jan 1999 09:22:23 +0900." <3699443F.49314CE4@newsguy.com> Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 17:56:43 -0800 Message-ID: <54611.916019803@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > There is a new package system? Gee... where have I been? What's the > binary? It's not even close to that stage yet - people are jumping the gun. :-) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 18:12:12 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA16034 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 18:12:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from urmel.ghb.fh-furtwangen.de (urmel.ghb.fh-furtwangen.de [141.28.224.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA16021 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 18:12:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@urmel.ghb.fh-furtwangen.de) From: freebsd@urmel.ghb.fh-furtwangen.de Received: by urmel.ghb.fh-furtwangen.de (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C91986139; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 03:11:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by urmel.ghb.fh-furtwangen.de (Postfix) with SMTP id 994D06138; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 03:11:33 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 03:11:33 +0100 (CET) To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: State of the union, 1999. In-Reply-To: <199901102146.WAA08170@yedi.iaf.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 10 Jan 1999, Wilko Bulte wrote: > AFAIK this is a generic problem. We have the same thing here in Europe > (maybe worse with regards to shipping cost). We are now lucky enough > to have FreeBSD CDs available in the shops (for NLG 50, say US$ 25-30 ; > not bad). Paraphernalia are probably not interesting for > local shops to carry. Yes, buying the CDs directly from WalnutCreek is getting increasingly harder to justify. In the early day they did manage to bundle cd shipments to Europe thus the 9$ charge was shouldered by more products. Now, with instant delivery there are times when CDs end up in my mailbox 2 - 3 days in the row and the shipping costs are noticeable. Would be nice if the surcharge for overseas shipment could be reduced a little, but in light of what Sun Microsystems expects a customer to pay in additional charges it is still dirt cheap... Keep up the good work, Carsten To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 18:49:04 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA19437 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 18:49:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from lamb.sas.com (lamb.sas.com [192.35.83.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA19431 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 18:49:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jwd@unx.sas.com) Received: from mozart (mozart.unx.sas.com [192.58.184.8]) by lamb.sas.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id VAA28213 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 21:48:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from bb01f39.unx.sas.com by mozart (5.65c/SAS/Domains/5-6-90) id AA20671; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 21:48:29 -0500 Received: (from jwd@localhost) by bb01f39.unx.sas.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA89218 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 21:48:29 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jwd) From: "John W. DeBoskey" Message-Id: <199901110248.VAA89218@bb01f39.unx.sas.com> Subject: Re: boot.flp doesn't (what if?) To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 21:48:29 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, The one thing I haven't seen mentioned, and not a global solution, is to also create a 2.88 Meg floppy image... Why? Because we can use this as the boot floppy on the CD. Just a thought... I'm now in the process of nuking DOSFS from the kernel to see how much space I can get back... Later, John ps: I purged the cc list so as not to upset anyone... :-) ps2: Put the doc in the kernel. I, personally, get tired of trekking through the kernel to find out of the vm.* sysctl values actually do. 80 chars worth of doc would be a lifesaver. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 19:11:36 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA21815 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 19:11:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from shell.futuresouth.com (shell.futuresouth.com [198.78.58.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA21809 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 19:11:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fullermd@futuresouth.com) Received: (from fullermd@localhost) by shell.futuresouth.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id VAA26866; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 21:07:21 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <19990110210721.A24234@futuresouth.com> Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 21:07:21 -0600 From: "Matthew D. Fuller" To: Julian Elischer , Frank Nobis Cc: Kenneth Wayne Culver , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SOFTUPDATES References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: ; from Julian Elischer on Fri, Jan 08, 1999 at 11:00:59AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Jan 08, 1999 at 11:00:59AM -0800, Julian Elischer woke me up to tell me: > I hope you have it on your /usr/obj partition, because that's where it > would be used and make a difference. It only affects writes. Does softupdates give any gain over async? I have /usr/src and /usr/obj both mounted async, noatime, and it does seem to be rather nicely fast over default mountops. --- *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* | Matthew Fuller http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd | * fullermd@futuresouth.com fullermd@over-yonder.net * | UNIX Systems Administrator Specializing in FreeBSD | * FutureSouth Communications ISPHelp ISP Consulting * | "The only reason I'm burning my candle at both ends, | * because I haven't figured out how to light the * | middle yet" | *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 19:24:37 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA22980 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 19:24:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from kendra.ne.mediaone.net (kendra.ne.mediaone.net [24.128.94.182]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA22962; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 19:24:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from software@kew.com) Received: from sonata.hh.kew.com (root@sonata-dmz.hh.kew.com [192.168.205.1]) by kendra.ne.mediaone.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA12424; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 22:24:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from kew.com (minerva.hh.kew.com [192.168.203.144]) by sonata.hh.kew.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA27583; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 22:24:01 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <36996ED0.CA25B959@kew.com> Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 22:24:00 -0500 From: Drew Derbyshire Organization: Kendra Electronic Wonderworks, Stoneham, MA 02180 (http://www.kew.com) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: State of the union, 1999. References: <49859.915950870@zippy.cdrom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Note 1: With the headers I am giving this, replies will auto-move to chat, since it's not really a "current" issue. Note 2: The following mentions Jordan by name, which may imply I'm dumping on him personally. This is utterly wrong, the point if anything is that one person can't do the evangelism for an entire organization. With the release of FreeBSD 3.0, FreeBSD utterly blew the _official_ evangelism end of it. There was this great new product with wonderful features in it (CAM, SMP, and all the rest), and ... I didn't see squat about it in the trade papers. Someone at the online end of either CMP publications or IDG (I forget which) was actively looking for an official FreeBSD mouthpiece the week after 3.0 came out, and they couldn't find anyone. Nada. Jordan was in Holland and no other names were available. Nor, it appears, were phone numbers that got answered publicly associated with the release. I tried feeding the reporter some names, but nothing ever became of it, and I couldn't talk to him directly (not being on the project myself). On a local professional note, I'm trying to get my day job to look at FreeBSD for their next OS migration. I've got low hopes, because quite frankly, it seems only the people who have seen me in my FreeBSD rugby shirt even know the name. I don't think too many would mind if Linux wiped FreeBSD from the face of the earth on pure technical merits, but would be a real pity if FreeBSD died because no one answered the phone. If you (those who can officially speak for FreeBSD) want it to succeed, _everytime_ someone mentions Linux you need to see if that comment should have said Linux and FreeBSD. Just "sometimes" won't be enough to win the image war. "Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote: > Linux has succeeded largely because of a large grass-roots support and > evangelism network which allows it to reach such people and > communicate the message to them. If FreeBSD's own users want to see > FreeBSD doing better against whomever they most perceive as its > competition, and 1998 was certainly a year where I heard a lot of > complaining about this, then they're going to simply have to get off > their collective duffs and put in more of this kind of work. When was > the last time a bunch of FreeBSD users got together to hand out > FreeBSD literature at a Microsoft product launch, for example, or held > an install-a-thon at a local computer show? -- Drew Derbyshire UUPC/extended e-mail: software@kew.com Telephone: 617-279-9812 "Send lawyers, guns, and money . . ." - Warren Zevon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 19:34:22 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA23901 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 19:34:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from janus.syracuse.net (janus.syracuse.net [205.232.47.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA23896 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 19:34:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from green@unixhelp.org) Received: from localhost (green@localhost) by janus.syracuse.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA07709 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 22:33:50 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 22:33:50 -0500 (EST) From: Brian Feldman X-Sender: green@janus.syracuse.net To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Linux sendmsg() (correction) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Whoops, color my face blue :( For some reason, my Linux sendmsg() patches failed, and frankly it seems to be the fault of offsetof... after replacing offsetof with what the current code is, it actually works... Committers? :) It's rather nice to have sendmsg() with a msg_control actually working now! (If anyone knows why the same code, instead using ptr + offsetof(stu,ff), now being &((stu)ptr)->ff, works right.... please let me know?) Brian Feldman _ __ ___ ___ ___ green@unixhelp.org _ __ ___ | _ ) __| \ http://www.freebsd.org/ _ __ ___ ____ | _ \__ \ |) | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! _ __ ___ ____ _____ |___/___/___/ --- src/sys/i386/linux/linux_socket.c.orig Sun Jan 10 22:28:32 1999 +++ src/sys/i386/linux/linux_socket.c Sun Jan 10 22:25:09 1999 @@ -811,7 +811,40 @@ case LINUX_GETSOCKOPT: return linux_getsockopt(p, args->args); case LINUX_SENDMSG: - return sendmsg(p, args->args); + do { + int error; + int level; + caddr_t control; + struct { + int s; + const struct msghdr *msg; + int flags; + } *uap = args->args; + + error = copyin(&uap->msg->msg_control, + &control, sizeof(caddr_t)); + if (error) + return error; + if (control == NULL) + goto done; + error = copyin(&((struct cmsghdr *)control)->cmsg_level, + &level, sizeof(int)); + if (error) + return error; + if (level == 1) { + /* + * Linux thinks that SOL_SOCKET is 1; we know that it's really + * 0xffff, of course. + */ + level = SOL_SOCKET; + error = copyout(&level, &((struct cmsghdr *)control)-> + cmsg_level, sizeof(int)); + if (error) + return error; + } + done: + return sendmsg(p, args->args); + } while (0); case LINUX_RECVMSG: return recvmsg(p, args->args); To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 19:35:55 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA24041 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 19:35:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from houcbs2.houabg.com (houabg.com [206.109.247.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA24036 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 19:35:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dchapman@houabg.com) Received: from ip253.houston2.tx.pub-ip.psi.net by houcbs2.houabg.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.0.1457.7) id CSR50DRY; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 21:43:25 -0600 Message-ID: <36997250.1E2DC19C@houabg.com> Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 21:38:56 -0600 From: "David W. Chapman Jr." X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-current Subject: Elf Kernel Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id TAA24037 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Since I compiled my elf kernel, when I run the kernel -c to configure it, the changes don't stay when I reboot, I am not running the new boot loader, but are running the new boot blocks, anyone know what's happening. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 19:37:35 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA24311 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 19:37:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.196.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA24298 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 19:37:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (IDENT:P3fSqxblucsj7JpgaFZffV+Mrxb1oX2D@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA01009 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 12:36:59 +0900 (JST) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.7.6+2.6Wbeta7/3.4W/zodiac-May96) with ESMTP id MAA17650; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 12:39:25 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199901110339.MAA17650@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> To: current@FreeBSD.ORG cc: yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp Subject: HEADS UP: console driver change committed Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 12:39:24 +0900 From: Kazutaka YOKOTA Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ok, syscons changes are committed. As I warned you before, you need to update your kernel configuration file. If you are using syscons, controller atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD tty device atkbd0 at isa? tty irq 1 #device psm0 at isa? tty irq 12 device vga0 at isa? port ? conflicts device sc0 at isa? tty pseudo-device splash Note that `splash' is required if you intend to use screen savers or splash screen. (I forgot to mention this in the previous warning message, sorry.) If you are pcvt user, controller atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD tty device atkbd0 at isa? tty irq 1 #device psm0 at isa? tty irq 12 device vt0 at isa? tty The following options for syscons are replaced by new ones. SC_ALT_SEQACCESS-> VGA_ALT_SEQACCESS SLOW_VGA -> VGA_SLOW_IOACCESS The following flags for syscons are no longer available. 0x08 Force detection of keyboard. 0x10 Old-style (XT) keyboard support. 0x20 Don't reset keyboard. Use corresponding new flags for atkbd instead. 0x01 Don't install the keyboard driver if no keyboard is found, else we always assume a keyboard. 0x02 Don't reset keyboard. 0x04 XT keyboard support. You must recompile screen saver modules and the vesa module in /sys/modules, as well as kbdcontrol and vidcontrol in /usr/src/usr.sbin. Thank you for your cooperation. Kazu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 19:44:01 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA24896 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 19:44:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA24879 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 19:44:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from julian@whistle.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by alpo.whistle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA10359; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 19:32:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from s204m82.isp.whistle.com(207.76.204.82) via SMTP by alpo.whistle.com, id smtpdb10333; Mon Jan 11 03:32:44 1999 Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 18:32:42 -0800 (PST) From: Julian Elischer X-Sender: julian@s204m82.isp.whistle.com To: "Matthew D. Fuller" cc: Frank Nobis , Kenneth Wayne Culver , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SOFTUPDATES In-Reply-To: <19990110210721.A24234@futuresouth.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Softupdates are usually as fast as async, but also give a safety guarantee. (unlike async) they CAN under some circumstances be much faster but on average it's similar. On Sun, 10 Jan 1999, Matthew D. Fuller wrote: > On Fri, Jan 08, 1999 at 11:00:59AM -0800, Julian Elischer woke me up to tell me: > > I hope you have it on your /usr/obj partition, because that's where it > > would be used and make a difference. It only affects writes. > > Does softupdates give any gain over async? > I have /usr/src and /usr/obj both mounted async, noatime, and it does > seem to be rather nicely fast over default mountops. > > > --- > > *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* > | Matthew Fuller http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd | > * fullermd@futuresouth.com fullermd@over-yonder.net * > | UNIX Systems Administrator Specializing in FreeBSD | > * FutureSouth Communications ISPHelp ISP Consulting * > | "The only reason I'm burning my candle at both ends, | > * because I haven't figured out how to light the * > | middle yet" | > *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 19:46:01 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA25203 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 19:46:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cassiopeia.hkstar.com (cassiopeia.hkstar.com [202.82.3.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA25185 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 19:45:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from c5666305@hkstar.com) Received: from b1.hkstar.com (b1.hkstar.com [202.82.0.87]) by cassiopeia.hkstar.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA28473 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 11:45:24 +0800 (HKT) Received: from localhost (c5666305@localhost) by b1.hkstar.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA06882 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 11:45:23 +0800 (HKT) X-Authentication-Warning: b1.hkstar.com: c5666305 owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 11:45:23 +0800 (HKT) From: Chan Yiu Wah To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: how to play with pci128 sound card Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I recently bought a pci128 (creativelabs) and config my kernel as following device pcm0 at isa? port ? tty irq 10 drq 1 flags 0x0 and the system recognized it as es1: rev 0x00 int a irq 9 on pci0.10.0 pcm1: using I/O space register mapping at 0x6c00 Then. I cd /dev and ./MAKEDEV snd1 and tried to play splay and the result is splay: Failed to open sound device. I had checked the dsp1 did exist. Can anyone show me the trick to solve it. cheers. Clarence To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 19:46:41 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA25249 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 19:46:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.196.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA25241 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 19:46:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (IDENT:jE/Pr6V8zkoJw2FcWwQhBUUE8N7SgjQZ@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA00936 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 12:46:05 +0900 (JST) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.7.6+2.6Wbeta7/3.4W/zodiac-May96) with ESMTP id MAA17998; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 12:48:31 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199901110348.MAA17998@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> To: current@FreeBSD.ORG cc: yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp Subject: Splash screen for 3.0-CURRENT! Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 12:48:31 +0900 From: Kazutaka YOKOTA Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG A splash screen module has been added to 3.0-CURRENT. >yokota 1999/01/10 19:34:56 PST > > Modified files: > sys/modules Makefile > Added files: > sys/modules/splash Makefile Makefile.inc > sys/modules/splash/bmp Makefile splash_bmp.c > Log: [...] This version has rather limited capabilities, but should be a good start... Well, sort of. It can handle W*ndows 256 color BMP file. (Other color depth probably won't work.) The size of the image must be 320x200 or less. Too restricted? Yes :-) (Is anyone interested in enhancing this, or writing new modules to load other image file formats?) In order to see splash image when your kernel loads, do the following: Make sure the following line is added to your kernel configuration file and rebuild a new kernel. pseudo-device splash Copy your favorite W*ndows BMP file to somewhere the boot loader can see. I used "Powered by FreeBSD" logo by Brian Tao for testing :-) When the boot loader starts, load kernel, splash image file and the splash image decoder module as follows. load kernel load -t splash_image_data _your_BMP_file_ load splash_bmp boot ("-t splash_image_data" is extremely important as the the decoder will look for this tag for the bitmap data.) Then you should see the image on your screen as soon as the kernel loads. Note that if you specify -c or -v options to the boot command, the splash image won't appear. (But is loaded and can be used as a screen saver later; see below.) Note also that the splash screen won't be available if you use pcvt driver. You must be using syscons. Sorry. The splash screen will go away if you hit any key (this may not work immediately if the kernel is still probing devices), or you load a screen saver. If you load the splash image decoder module but don't load a screen saver, you can continue using the splash module as a screen saver. Specify timeout value by running vidcontrol. vidcontrol -t timeout Then, the splash screen image will come back after the specified time. (You cannot use the regular screen saver as a splash screen, though.) Kazu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 19:48:17 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA25358 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 19:48:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles351.castles.com [208.214.167.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA25348 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 19:48:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA86027; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 19:44:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199901110344.TAA86027@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Stephen Palmer cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Joliet patches to -current added to PR kern/5038 In-reply-to: Your message of "10 Jan 1999 22:46:50 -0100." <19990110224650.28636.qmail@www0p.netaddress.usa.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 19:44:28 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On 1/7/99, patches to -current were added to the end of PR kern/5038. > These applied cleanly to my system, and appear to work great! My > vote (as if it counts to anything) is to commit these into -current. > This is fuctionality I've needed for a while and I'd be glad to see > added. These are currently being evaluated; one reviewer writes they have "issues" which are under investigation. I expect to hear from him in a day or so. In addition, the patches were submitted encoded (patches should always be plaintext), and they discarded several important pieces of functionality from earlier incarnations. They're certainly not ready to commit as-is. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 19:53:14 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA25788 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 19:53:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles351.castles.com [208.214.167.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA25783 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 19:53:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA86077; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 19:49:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199901110349.TAA86077@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Jos M Alcaide" cc: Mike Zanker , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: No vpo man page In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 11 Jan 1999 00:43:29 +0100." <36993B21.2A19A836@we.lc.ehu.es> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 19:49:20 -0800 From: Mike Smith Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id TAA25784 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Mike Zanker wrote: > > > > One more thing - it fails when I try and mount a Zip disk with a DOS > > filesystem on it. Does the driver only support a FreeBSD filesystem? > > What slice are you trying to mount? I don't know why, but [some] > DOS-formatted ZIPs have the filesystem in slice 4. Use the fdisk > utility to ask for slices. This is actually how they come from the factory; they're all like that. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 19:53:52 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA25852 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 19:53:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nina.pagesz.net (nina.pagesz.net [208.194.157.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA25846 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 19:53:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rhh@pagesz.net) Received: from stealth.dummynet. (juana-16.pagesz.net [208.213.126.16]) by nina.pagesz.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA00685; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 22:53:19 -0500 Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.dummynet. (8.9.1/8.8.8) id WAA02920; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 22:53:25 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rhh) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 22:53:25 -0500 From: Randall Hopper To: "Brian W. Buchanan" Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: State of the union, 1999. Message-ID: <19990110225325.C909@pagesz.net> References: <19990110191559.A7530@pagesz.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: ; from Brian W. Buchanan on Sun, Jan 10, 1999 at 05:08:27PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Brian W. Buchanan: |Stickers are available from www.freebsdmall.com. I ordered two sheets of |them along with the two 1" case plates for my boxes, so that I could put |a sticker on the Libretto I'm about to buy. Hmm. I didn't see them before, and I didn't find them again just now. I guess I stupidly just clicked on "Products" and only saw CDs. Any search tips? :-) |> Anyone selling a slick-looking stuffed daemon (Chuck). My office could use |> some color :-) How about posters. | |http://www.freebsd.org/copyright/daemon.html has a link to a place that |sells them. Interesting. Wish it looked more like the Chuck you see on web pages, such as most others on that page. E.g.: http://www.de.freebsd.org/de/gif/bsd/freebsdmall-contact.gif Though that may be kinda tough. |I haven't found any pictures of Chuck facing forward, looking powerful and |bold, with his trident planted in the ground beside him. :( If anyone |else wants to design and market such a poster, however, I'll buy several. Seconded. Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 19:55:42 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA26018 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 19:55:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from kendra.ne.mediaone.net (kendra.ne.mediaone.net [24.128.94.182]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA26012 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 19:55:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from software@kew.com) Received: from sonata.hh.kew.com (root@sonata-dmz.hh.kew.com [192.168.205.1]) by kendra.ne.mediaone.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA12473 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 22:44:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from kew.com (minerva.hh.kew.com [192.168.203.144]) by sonata.hh.kew.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA27633 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 22:44:55 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <369973B5.BFE3E06A@kew.com> Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 22:44:54 -0500 From: Drew Derbyshire Organization: Kendra Electronic Wonderworks, Stoneham, MA 02180 (http://www.kew.com) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: new console driver and LKM/KLD References: <199901110339.MAA17650@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kazutaka YOKOTA wrote: > pseudo-device splash > > Note that `splash' is required if you intend to use screen savers or > splash screen. (I forgot to mention this in the previous warning > message, sorry.) Stupid user question ... are KLD's required for savers or the new splash screen? I've got LKMs disabled on my production -STABLE machines for security reasons, it seems the only real function I lose are screen savers. (I'd settle for the green saver to turn the console off.) -- Drew Derbyshire UUPC/extended e-mail: software@kew.com Telephone: 617-279-9812 "Send lawyers, guns, and money . . ." - Warren Zevon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 20:07:15 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA26935 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 20:07:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.196.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA26930 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 20:07:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (IDENT:gFA6JuThAiFWxhUJCl+7A+6hTNMsBCtt@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA01204; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 13:06:21 +0900 (JST) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.7.6+2.6Wbeta7/3.4W/zodiac-May96) with ESMTP id NAA18771; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 13:08:47 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199901110408.NAA18771@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> To: Drew Derbyshire cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp Subject: Re: new console driver and LKM/KLD In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 10 Jan 1999 22:44:54 EST." <369973B5.BFE3E06A@kew.com> References: <199901110339.MAA17650@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> <369973B5.BFE3E06A@kew.com> Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 13:08:46 +0900 From: Kazutaka YOKOTA Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >> pseudo-device splash >> >> Note that `splash' is required if you intend to use screen savers or >> splash screen. (I forgot to mention this in the previous warning >> message, sorry.) > >Stupid user question ... are KLD's required for savers or the new splash >screen? I've got LKMs disabled on my production -STABLE machines for security >reasons, it seems the only real function I lose are screen savers. (I'd >settle for the green saver to turn the console off.) Yes. Screen savers are KLD modules, just like before. There is no built-in screen savers. Also, you need to preload a KLD image decoder module and image data itself in order to have splash screen at start up. The pseudo-device splash implements necessary interface between the console driver and KLD splash/saver modules; it's not a screen saver itself. Kazu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 20:10:07 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA27338 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 20:10:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from shell.futuresouth.com (shell.futuresouth.com [198.78.58.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA27333 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 20:10:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fullermd@futuresouth.com) Received: (from fullermd@localhost) by shell.futuresouth.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id WAA29992 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 22:09:32 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <19990110220932.B24234@futuresouth.com> Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 22:09:32 -0600 From: "Matthew D. Fuller" To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: rwhod patch References: <199901040159.TAA23631@mortis.futuresouth.com> <199901040200.SAA29570@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <199901040200.SAA29570@freefall.freebsd.org>; from gnats-admin@FreeBSD.ORG on Sun, Jan 03, 1999 at 06:00:00PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I submitted a PR (bin/9301) about a week ago, which contained a patch to implement a listen mode to rwhod. It's a fairly trivial and noncontroversial change (I'd think; though the status quo on widespread issues would seem to refuse that there IS such a thing as a noncontroversial change). What are the chances of getting this reviewed and possibly committed before the Day-O-Branching? --- *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* | Matthew Fuller http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd | * fullermd@futuresouth.com fullermd@over-yonder.net * | UNIX Systems Administrator Specializing in FreeBSD | * FutureSouth Communications ISPHelp ISP Consulting * | "The only reason I'm burning my candle at both ends, | * because I haven't figured out how to light the * | middle yet" | *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 20:19:18 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA28570 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 20:19:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (sj-dsl-9-129-138.dspeed.net [209.249.129.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA28565 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 20:19:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA13553 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 20:16:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199901110416.UAA13553@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: New Pkg System (Re: State of the union, 1999. ) In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 10 Jan 1999 17:56:43 PST." <54611.916019803@zippy.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 20:16:55 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Has anyone thought of using XML , for instance, CDF - Channel Distribution Format, for describing packages? Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 20:21:37 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA28848 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 20:21:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jumping-spider.aracnet.com (jumping-spider.aracnet.com [205.159.88.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA28843 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 20:21:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ctapang@easystreet.com) Received: from apex (216-99-199-226.cust.aracnet.com [216.99.199.226]) by jumping-spider.aracnet.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id UAA29892; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 20:20:57 -0800 Message-ID: <007c01be3d19$ea0315a0$0d787880@apex.tapang> From: "Carlos C. Tapang" To: , "Jordan K. Hubbard" Subject: Re: State of the union, 1999. Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 20:21:51 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Wow, that was long, but a good read. Some questions/comments below. Carlos C. Tapang http://www.genericwindows.com >With that in mind, sites like the FreeBSD Mall (www.freebsdmall.com) >have been set up to try and market a wider variety of FreeBSD-related >products and we've also begun exploring relationships with various >companies who can derive measurable value from any PR campaign that >enhances FreeBSD's reputation (translation: we want them to help pay >for it :). Are all companies that use FreeBSD making regular donations? If not, would it be a good idea to have an ongoing donation solicitation program, one of the activities of which would be to send regular mailings (phone call, email, etc.) to all companies that use FreeBSD? more glossies with various handy >comparison charts on them ("FreeBSD and NT", "FreeBSD and Solaris", >"FreeBSD and Linux", etc) I like this idea because I myself could use it. >We need to do more effective PR, that much is inarguable, it's only a >question of picking our targets for maximum effect given a limited >operating budget. Yes, I myself did not know that Yahoo uses a farm of FreeBSD servers until I accidentally stumbled into it. This is a big testimonial that needs to be shouted from the top of mountains. > >Our users also need to become more involved and I'm hoping that 1999 >will be the year when a lot more local user groups and other self-help >type of organizations are formed. The Handbook and FAQ are documents >which are getting better, hopefully another trend we'll see continue >into 1999 as Nik Clayton, our fearless new Documentation Project >leader, continues at the helm. We still have to remember, however, >that for many users the handbook and FAQ docs are just not enough. > >Linux has succeeded largely because of a large grass-roots support and >evangelism network which allows it to reach such people and >communicate the message to them. If FreeBSD's own users want to see >FreeBSD doing better against whomever they most perceive as its >competition, and 1998 was certainly a year where I heard a lot of >complaining about this, then they're going to simply have to get off >their collective duffs and put in more of this kind of work. When was >the last time a bunch of FreeBSD users got together to hand out >FreeBSD literature at a Microsoft product launch, for example, or held >an install-a-thon at a local computer show? > >The Linux folks do things like that all the time, apparently, whereas >only a very few die-hard FreeBSD users currently do it now, so why not >help these people out? Join the advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list and >discuss your plans there so that others with more enthusiasm than >ideas can also learn from and perhaps help you with yours. Write >short articles for the new advocacy sites like www.daemonnews.org or >www.freebsdrocks.com and help promote the success of BSD evangelical >publications. > >Phrases like "this is your FreeBSD" and "it all depends on you" may >seem shop-worn and trite, but they're also unfortunately still true >when there's so few of us and so many of you. If FreeBSD is to >*really* continue to succeed in 1999, it will only be with substantial >user participation and that means you, users! Start a local user >group, donate some of your older CD releases to the local library, try >and convince a local small business or ISP to use FreeBSD, these are >just a few of the many things that can be done if you're truly >interested in putting some energy into FreeBSD and ideas for what to >do will be the least of your worries if you're truly motivated. > Since I am using FreeBSD in Generic Windows, am I allowed to use "Powered by FreeBSD" in my website (www.genericwindows.com)? >Executive Summary: 1999, rah rah rah, let's do it! :) > >- Jordan > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 20:31:28 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA29661 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 20:31:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from st-lcremean.tidalwave.net (st-lcremean.tidalwave.net [208.213.203.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA29654 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 20:31:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lee@st-lcremean.tidalwave.net) Received: (from lee@localhost) by st-lcremean.tidalwave.net (8.9.1/8.8.8) id XAA01229; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 23:30:47 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from lee) Message-ID: <19990110233047.A720@tidalwave.net> Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 23:30:47 -0500 From: Lee Cremeans To: "Kevin G. Eliuk" , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ide_pci I'll volunteer Reply-To: lcremean@tidalwave.net References: <19990110054338.B50994@tidalwave.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: ; from Kevin G. Eliuk on Sun, Jan 10, 1999 at 12:13:27PM -0800 X-OS: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT X-Evil: microsoft.com Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Jan 10, 1999 at 12:13:27PM -0800, Kevin G. Eliuk wrote: > On Sun, 10 Jan 1999, Lee Cremeans wrote: > > > On Sun, Jan 10, 1999 at 05:38:53AM -0500, Lee Cremeans wrote: > > > > Aw damn...I just took another look at the diffs I made, and they aren't > > complete :/ I'll fix this tomorrow, after I've had some sleep. > > > > Let me know when you have those up, I'll fetch and send back my results > too. All right, I have a new version of the diff up. This one actually applies and compiles cleanly. -- +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Lee Cremeans -- Manassas, VA, USA (WakkyMouse on DALnet and WTnet)| | lcremean@tidalwave.net| http://st-lcremean.tidalwave.net/~lee | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 20:41:22 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA00689 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 20:41:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jumping-spider.aracnet.com (jumping-spider.aracnet.com [205.159.88.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA00679 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 20:41:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ctapang@easystreet.com) Received: from apex (216-99-199-226.cust.aracnet.com [216.99.199.226]) by jumping-spider.aracnet.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id UAA31622; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 20:40:34 -0800 Message-ID: <011701be3d1c$a7cf4570$0d787880@apex.tapang> From: "Carlos C. Tapang" To: "Matthew Dillon" , "Jos Backus" Cc: Subject: Re: Two seem-to-be bugs with 3.0-SNAP Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 20:41:28 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Ah, I missed that one. pwd_mkdb was earlier modified to do locking > (which it didn't do before). So now that it does, programs that > use it shoulds either use pwd_mkdb's -N option so they can hold their > own lock all the way through, or not hold a lock. Won't this require a change in sysinstall also? Carlos C. Tapang http://www.genericwindows.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 20:57:09 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA02653 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 20:57:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jumping-spider.aracnet.com (jumping-spider.aracnet.com [205.159.88.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA02643 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 20:57:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ctapang@easystreet.com) Received: from apex (216-99-199-226.cust.aracnet.com [216.99.199.226]) by jumping-spider.aracnet.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id UAA00241; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 20:56:34 -0800 Message-ID: <01ab01be3d1e$e3a44760$0d787880@apex.tapang> From: "Carlos C. Tapang" To: , "Kazutaka YOKOTA" Cc: Subject: Re: Splash screen for 3.0-CURRENT! Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 20:57:28 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is great. I will use this. I'll look into doing the work to make the resolution more flexible. It may not be that hard. Carlos C. Tapang http://www.genericwindows.com >A splash screen module has been added to 3.0-CURRENT. > >>yokota 1999/01/10 19:34:56 PST >> >> Modified files: >> sys/modules Makefile >> Added files: >> sys/modules/splash Makefile Makefile.inc >> sys/modules/splash/bmp Makefile splash_bmp.c >> Log: >[...] > >This version has rather limited capabilities, but should be a good >start... Well, sort of. > >It can handle W*ndows 256 color BMP file. (Other color depth probably >won't work.) The size of the image must be 320x200 or less. Too >restricted? Yes :-) > >(Is anyone interested in enhancing this, or writing new modules to >load other image file formats?) > >In order to see splash image when your kernel loads, do the following: > >Make sure the following line is added to your kernel configuration >file and rebuild a new kernel. > > pseudo-device splash > >Copy your favorite W*ndows BMP file to somewhere the boot loader can >see. I used "Powered by FreeBSD" logo by Brian Tao for testing :-) > >When the boot loader starts, load kernel, splash image file and >the splash image decoder module as follows. > > load kernel > load -t splash_image_data _your_BMP_file_ > load splash_bmp > boot > >("-t splash_image_data" is extremely important as the the decoder will >look for this tag for the bitmap data.) > >Then you should see the image on your screen as soon as the kernel >loads. > >Note that if you specify -c or -v options to the boot command, the >splash image won't appear. (But is loaded and can be used as a screen >saver later; see below.) > >Note also that the splash screen won't be available if you use pcvt >driver. You must be using syscons. Sorry. > >The splash screen will go away if you hit any key (this may not work >immediately if the kernel is still probing devices), or you load a >screen saver. > >If you load the splash image decoder module but don't load a screen >saver, you can continue using the splash module as a screen saver. >Specify timeout value by running vidcontrol. > > vidcontrol -t timeout > >Then, the splash screen image will come back after the specified time. > >(You cannot use the regular screen saver as a splash screen, though.) > >Kazu > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 21:01:49 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA03239 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 21:01:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.196.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA03233 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 21:01:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (IDENT:3WT0ikh+OZL3ZSoN+mEs6jkWTm05gqQB@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA01299; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 14:01:00 +0900 (JST) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.7.6+2.6Wbeta7/3.4W/zodiac-May96) with ESMTP id OAA20893; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 14:03:26 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199901110503.OAA20893@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> To: Nick Hibma cc: FreeBSD current Mailing list , USB BSD list , yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp Subject: Re: Hand needed: debugging the USB mouse driver In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 11 Jan 1999 01:06:24 +0100." References: Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 14:03:25 +0900 From: Kazutaka YOKOTA Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >If there are people that would like to get their hands dirty on some >programming in FreeBSD, but don't know where to start... > >The ums driver (dev/usb/ums.c) requires some work to get the Z direction >working. The mouse works in X/Y directions and 3 buttons, but not Z. > >Two things could be done: >1) Debug the IntelliMouse that is currently implemented (and not >working) > >2) Convert the whole protocol used to Sysmouse. This is much better as >we might end up with USB mice with lots more buttons and directions and >it would be far easier to accomodate for that in the sysmouse protocol. > >The work consists of digging through the mouse protocols (PS/2, >sysmouse, IntelliMouse, etc.). This protocol information can be fetched >from psm.c, moused and i386/include/mouse.h, or maybe elsewhere. Don't forget the man pages for mouse(4), moused(8), mse(4), sysmouse(4) and psm(4) :-) They contain good amount of description on the sysmouse protocol and more. One key feature of FreeBSD mouse drivers is that the driver can switch protocols according to the setting of "operation level." The level 0 is "compatibility level." The drivers stick to the accepted or De facto standard protocol associated with the device when reporting data to the userland. For example, the mse driver uses the MouseSystems 5 byte protocol at this level, because that has been the protocol for the driver for years. The psm driver uses the the standard PS/2 mouse 3 byte protocol, even if the mouse has a wheel or additional buttons and the device uses an extended protocol (this means that the wheel and the extra button information is discarded in the driver and not available to the userland at this level). When the drivers are open()ed the initial operation level is always set to 0. The level 0 is intended for programs which are aware of only very basic protocols, such as MS serial mouse protocol, MouseSystems protocol and PS/2 mouse protocol, and have no ideas about wheels and extra buttons. XFree86 servers (ver 3.3.1 or earlier), and many commercial X servers too, fall in this category. The level 1 is "sysmouse level". 8 byte sysmouse protocol is used in all drivers. The protocol will encode wheel and extra button information. This involves data translation in the drivers. This is currently the preferred operation level. moused(8) and XFree86 servers (ver 3.3.2 or later) use this level. The level 2 is called "native level." Currently only the psm driver has the level 2 operation. In this level raw mouse data is passed from the mouse device to the userland. Recent exotic mice use various, often proprietary, protocols. The userland program must know different data formats and must be able to decode data according to the connected mouse model. At the moment, the level 2 is not very useful, because there seems to be no programs using this level. (The mse driver doesn't have the native level operation.) The FreeBSD USB mouse driver should at least implement the level 0 and 1 operation. If there already is an sort of accepted data format for the USB mouse, that should be used for the level 0. The level 1 must use the sysmouse protocol. (The level 0 may use the sysmouse protocol too, if there doesn't seem to be the De facto standard yet. The OSes may choose to implement the sysmouse protocol too, if it suits them.) Kazu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 21:26:10 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA07368 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 21:26:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from st-lcremean.tidalwave.net (st-lcremean.tidalwave.net [208.213.203.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA07362 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 21:26:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lee@st-lcremean.tidalwave.net) Received: (from lee@localhost) by st-lcremean.tidalwave.net (8.9.1/8.8.8) id AAA01484; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 00:25:30 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from lee) Message-ID: <19990111002530.A1443@tidalwave.net> Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 00:25:30 -0500 From: Lee Cremeans To: Kenneth Wayne Culver Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ide_pci.c Reply-To: lcremean@tidalwave.net References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: ; from Kenneth Wayne Culver on Mon, Jan 11, 1999 at 12:12:41AM -0500 X-OS: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT X-Evil: microsoft.com Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jan 11, 1999 at 12:12:41AM -0500, Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote: > I put in ur patch, and it seems to work fine, I'm just wondering though, > how did you test the throughput of the drive? I did dd if=/dev/rwd0 of=/dev/null bs=102k count=50 on a quiet (single-user) system. I haven't done any filesystem-throughput tests yet...this is the raw throughput through the controller. -- +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Lee Cremeans -- Manassas, VA, USA (WakkyMouse on DALnet and WTnet)| | lcremean@tidalwave.net| http://st-lcremean.tidalwave.net/~lee | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 21:26:32 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA07425 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 21:26:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from home.dragondata.com (home.dragondata.com [204.137.237.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA07407 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 21:26:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from toasty@home.dragondata.com) Received: (from toasty@localhost) by home.dragondata.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) id XAA08201; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 23:25:43 -0600 (CST) From: Kevin Day Message-Id: <199901110525.XAA08201@home.dragondata.com> Subject: Re: State of the union, 1999. In-Reply-To: <19990110225325.C909@pagesz.net> from Randall Hopper at "Jan 10, 1999 10:53:25 pm" To: aa8vb@pagesz.net (Randall Hopper) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 23:25:43 -0600 (CST) Cc: brian@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU, current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > |I haven't found any pictures of Chuck facing forward, looking powerful and > |bold, with his trident planted in the ground beside him. :( If anyone > |else wants to design and market such a poster, however, I'll buy several. > > Seconded. > For a product we're working on, we're going to use the 'Chuck' logo in it, to show that we're using FreeBSD. (Yes, we have Mr. McKusick's permission) One of the artists is making a 3D model of it, that we can move/rotate/pose/whatever however you want. When he's done, I'll give the art to Kirk, and see what he wants to do with it. Kevin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 21:45:47 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA09680 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 21:45:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from st-lcremean.tidalwave.net (st-lcremean.tidalwave.net [208.213.203.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA09675 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 21:45:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lee@st-lcremean.tidalwave.net) Received: (from lee@localhost) by st-lcremean.tidalwave.net (8.9.1/8.8.8) id AAA05904; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 00:45:08 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from lee) Message-ID: <19990111004508.A5896@tidalwave.net> Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 00:45:08 -0500 From: Lee Cremeans To: Kenneth Wayne Culver Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ide_pci.c Reply-To: lcremean@tidalwave.net References: <19990111002530.A1443@tidalwave.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: ; from Kenneth Wayne Culver on Mon, Jan 11, 1999 at 12:41:28AM -0500 X-OS: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT X-Evil: microsoft.com Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jan 11, 1999 at 12:41:28AM -0500, Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 11, 1999 at 12:12:41AM -0500, Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote: > > > I put in ur patch, and it seems to work fine, I'm just wondering though, > > > how did you test the throughput of the drive? > > > > I did > > > > dd if=/dev/rwd0 of=/dev/null bs=102k count=50 > > > > on a quiet (single-user) system. I haven't done any filesystem-throughput > > tests yet...this is the raw throughput through the controller. > > > I did this and got about 7MB per second. Am I doing something wrong? I did > the patch and everything right, because it is detecting the board. that 102 should be 1024....augh...I'm making too many typos.. -- +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Lee Cremeans -- Manassas, VA, USA (WakkyMouse on DALnet and WTnet)| | lcremean@tidalwave.net| http://st-lcremean.tidalwave.net/~lee | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 22:08:35 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA12463 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 22:08:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from po3.wam.umd.edu (po3.wam.umd.edu [128.8.10.165]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA12451 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 22:08:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from culverk@wam.umd.edu) Received: from rac6.wam.umd.edu ((IDENT root)@rac6.wam.umd.edu [128.8.10.146]) by po3.wam.umd.edu (8.9.0.Beta6/8.9.0.Beta6) with ESMTP id BAA12858 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 01:08:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from rac6.wam.umd.edu ((IDENT sendmail)@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rac6.wam.umd.edu (8.9.0.Beta6/8.9.0.Beta6) with SMTP id BAA25937 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 01:07:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by rac6.wam.umd.edu (8.9.0.Beta6/8.9.0.Beta6) with SMTP id BAA25932 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 01:07:57 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: rac6.wam.umd.edu: culverk owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 01:07:57 -0500 (EST) From: Kenneth Wayne Culver To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ide_pci.c Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I was thinking that Lee Cremean's patch of ide_pci.c should be committed to -current because I have tested it with AcerLab's chipset (the one that everyone can't get working in -current) and it works. Just letting everyone know. Kenneth Culver Computer Science Major at the University of Maryland, College Park. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 22:23:59 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA13640 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 22:23:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ayukawa.aus.org (ayukawa.aus.org [199.166.246.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA13630 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 22:23:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lh@aus.org) Received: from bsd.aus.org (lh@bsd.aus.org [199.166.246.189]) by ayukawa.aus.org (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA28949 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 01:04:25 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199901110604.BAA28949@ayukawa.aus.org> X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3-beta-042198 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <19990110191559.A7530@pagesz.net> Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 01:23:08 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: lh@aus.org From: Luke To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: State of the union, 1999. Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > The Polo shirts are pretty nice and not too "geeky". But I second the mugs > and stickers ideas. > > Anyone selling a slick-looking stuffed daemon (Chuck). My office could use > some color :-) How about posters. > > Randall I think the reason FreeBSD isn't as well know [it was mentioned in my local papers' computer section in 5 different past/year-next/year articles last saturday] Is because we can't have images with Chucky like Linux ones say at www.kmfms.com. --- E-Mail: Luke Sent by XFMail ---------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 22:26:52 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA14123 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 22:26:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from janus.syracuse.net (janus.syracuse.net [205.232.47.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA14116 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 22:26:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from green@unixhelp.org) Received: from localhost (green@localhost) by janus.syracuse.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA15920 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 01:26:27 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 01:26:26 -0500 (EST) From: Brian Feldman X-Sender: green@janus.syracuse.net To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: panic: vm_page_free: invalid wire count (65535), pindex: 0x20 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've got myself a quite reproduceable crash: it occurs when a segmentation fault/other crash occurs in the program StarOffice 5.0. Normally a program dumping core wouldn't be a problem, but StarOffice is LinuxThreads, and runs RFMEM|RFSIGSHARE :( Something goes wrong when a multi-kernel-threaded program dies, and all members dump core at the same time. Init seems to be the context in which the system panicked.o GDB is free software and you are welcome to distribute copies of it under certain conditions; type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB; type "show warranty" for details. GDB 4.16 (i386-unknown-freebsd), Copyright 1996 Free Software Foundation, Inc... IdlePTD 2867200 initial pcb at 23d75c panicstr: vm_page_free: invalid wire count (65535), pindex: 0x20 panic messages: --- panic: vm_page_free: invalid wire count (65535), pindex: 0x20 syncing disks... 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 giv ing up dumping to dev 30001, offset 40960 dump 79 78 77 76 75 74 73 72 71 70 69 68 67 66 65 64 63 62 61 60 59 58 57 56 55 54 53 52 51 50 49 48 47 46 45 44 43 42 41 40 39 38 37 36 35 34 33 32 31 30 29 28 27 26 25 24 23 22 21 20 19 18 17 16 15 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 --- #0 boot (howto=256) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:285 285 dumppcb.pcb_cr3 = rcr3(); (kgdb) bt #0 boot (howto=256) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:285 #1 0xf0137ab9 in panic ( fmt=0xf020e59a "vm_page_free: invalid wire count (%d), pindex: 0x%x") at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:446 #2 0xf01aa380 in vm_page_freechk_and_unqueue (m=0xf0467008) at ../../vm/vm_page.c:1148 #3 0xf01aa538 in vm_page_free_zero (m=0xf0467008) at ../../vm/vm_page.c:1263 #4 0xf01c9eef in pmap_release_free_page (pmap=0xf5b18620, p=0xf0467008) at ../../i386/i386/pmap.c:1340 #5 0xf01ca051 in pmap_release (pmap=0xf5b18620) at ../../i386/i386/pmap.c:1502 #6 0xf01a3abf in vmspace_free (vm=0xf5b185c0) at ../../vm/vm_map.c:245 #7 0xf01d1671 in cpu_wait (p=0xf5b134a0) at ../../i386/i386/vm_machdep.c:261 #8 0xf01318e5 in wait1 (q=0xf5b16e60, uap=0xf5b1cf84, compat=0) at ../../kern/kern_exit.c:524 #9 0xf01316c0 in wait4 (p=0xf5b16e60, uap=0xf5b1cf84) at ../../kern/kern_exit.c:416 #10 0xf01cddd7 in syscall (frame={tf_es = 39, tf_ds = 39, tf_edi = -272638400, tf_esi = -272638400, tf_ebp = -272638528, tf_isp = -172896300, tf_ebx = 0, tf_edx = 4060, tf_ecx = 134849376, tf_eax = 7, tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = 2, tf_eip = 134674952, tf_cs = 31, tf_eflags = 582, tf_esp = -272638548, tf_ss = 39}) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:1100 #11 0xf01c08ec in Xint0x80_syscall () ---Type to continue, or q to quit--- #12 0x804937f in ?? () #13 0x804855a in ?? () #14 0x804834c in ?? () #15 0x80480e9 in ?? () (kgdb) frame 9 #9 0xf01316c0 in wait4 (p=0xf5b16e60, uap=0xf5b1cf84) at ../../kern/kern_exit.c:416 416 return (wait1(p, uap, 0)); (kgdb) printf "%d\n", p->p_pid 1 (kgdb) printf "%d\n", uap->pid -1 Brian Feldman _ __ ___ ___ ___ green@unixhelp.org _ __ ___ | _ ) __| \ http://www.freebsd.org/ _ __ ___ ____ | _ \__ \ |) | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! _ __ ___ ____ _____ |___/___/___/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 22:52:09 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA16210 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 22:52:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from kate.nws.fsu.edu (kate.nws.fsu.edu [146.201.16.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA16205 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 22:52:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dave@nws.fsu.edu) Received: from localhost (dave@localhost) by kate.nws.fsu.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id BAA09168 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 01:51:43 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 01:51:42 -0500 (EST) From: David Faciane To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: very cool netbsd tshirt Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Seen on INTP mailing list: Cool. Anyone know where to get one of these? ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 00:38:34 -0800 From: Randy Goldenberg To: intp@jubjub.wizard.com Seen tonight: NetBSD T-shirt with ports to various machines listed like a concert tour on the back. R.[where do you want to go today?] [snip] David Faciane |web: http://www.nws.fsu.edu/ NOAA National Weather Service |Real-Time Worldwide Marine Weather Reports Tallahassee, FL | http://www.nws.fsu.edu/buoy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 23:17:59 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA19427 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 23:17:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from lamb.sas.com (lamb.sas.com [192.35.83.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA19422 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 23:17:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jwd@unx.sas.com) Received: from mozart (mozart.unx.sas.com [192.58.184.8]) by lamb.sas.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id CAA10047 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 02:17:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from bb01f39.unx.sas.com by mozart (5.65c/SAS/Domains/5-6-90) id AA26974; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 02:17:25 -0500 Received: (from jwd@localhost) by bb01f39.unx.sas.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id CAA92169 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 02:17:25 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jwd) From: "John W. DeBoskey" Message-Id: <199901110717.CAA92169@bb01f39.unx.sas.com> Subject: Re: Registry issues. To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 02:17:24 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Mike Smith stood up and said: > I think Poul's point is that he would like us not to make the same > mistakes, not that we shouldn't have a registry at all. I'd hold the > Apollo Aegis/DomainOS registry up as a better example. and this made me thing... Gee, would I like to see the old ability from the Apollo's to do environmental substitutions while doing pathname resolution... Oh well... Later, John To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 23:20:04 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA19945 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 23:20:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from phluffy.fks.bt (net25-cust199.pdx.wantweb.net [24.236.25.199]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA19908 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 23:20:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from myke@ees.com) Received: from localhost (myke@localhost) by phluffy.fks.bt (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA26297 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 23:19:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from myke@ees.com) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 23:19:28 -0800 (PST) From: Mike Holling X-Sender: myke@phluffy.fks.bt To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: EtherExpress16 and if_ie.c Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Not sure if this is the correct forum, maybe it should go to -hackers. Redirects appreciated. I have a number of EtherExpress16 ISA cards, none of which seemed to work in FreeBSD. After soliciting for experiences with this card on -questions, I started digging into the driver a bit. On my system (P90 running -current) it appears as if the card doesn't generate receive interrupts. Transmits seem to be fine. ieinit() can sometimes bring the receive interrupts to life (by a series of 'ifconfig down; ifconfig up' or sometimes changing promisc mode by running tcpdump). There doesn't seem to be a reliable pattern to this, however. Once the card starts working it stays working, at least until the next reboot. Is anyone still working on this driver? Does anyone have online documentation for the i82586 chip, or a pointer to past discussions about the problems with this card? The code indicates that there's a lot of mystery bugs, and it looks like some of them are still there. Oh, the driver also hangs the machine at reboot time. After the disks sync, the machine hangs with the message ie1: frame from ether ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff type ffff repeating indefinitely. - Mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 23:33:04 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA21613 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 23:33:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles351.castles.com [208.214.167.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA21606 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 23:33:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA87341; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 23:29:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199901110729.XAA87341@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Carlos C. Tapang" cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Is anyone working on porting Zope to FreeBSD? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 08 Jan 1999 19:18:41 PST." <002f01be3b7e$c2ba7430$0d787880@apex.tapang> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 23:29:23 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I need a more powerful website than what I have now, and I'm considering > Zope (http://www.zope.org). Zope is basically Principia, a commercial > product which has just been open-sourced. Is there anybody trying to port > this app to FreeBSD? If nobody is, I'll think about doing it myself. I haven't heard anyone doing this. Go for it! -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 23:39:55 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA22510 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 23:39:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from uni-sb.de (uni-sb.de [134.96.252.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA22500 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 23:39:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rock@cs.uni-sb.de) Received: from cs.uni-sb.de (cs.uni-sb.de [134.96.252.31]) by uni-sb.de (8.9.2/1999010400) with ESMTP id IAA17526 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 08:39:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from cs.uni-sb.de (acc1-179.telip.uni-sb.de [134.96.113.179]) by cs.uni-sb.de (8.9.2/1999010400) with ESMTP id IAA04992 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 08:39:16 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <3699AB8A.11171BA0@cs.uni-sb.de> Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 08:43:06 +0100 From: "D. Rock" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [de] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How's 3.0-current as an NFS client? References: <19990109000156.B17962@clear.co.nz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I do some irregular "make release" to obtain some up to date installation disks. Because my FreeBSD machine is low on disk space, the chroot environment is located on an Solaris (2.)7 NFS server. In the past months I was successful doing complete "make release"s with this configuration (NFSv2/UDP) (I just did a minor kernel modification, so that chflags don't report EINVAL over NFS but just ignore it). But my latest "make release" failed again (it seems to be deterministic, at least 3 times it failed on this file): /usr/include/math.h doesn't get installed properly. At offset 4k I just get the usual 0 bytes. My latest successful build is from 21./22. Dec My build machine is a -current machine with usually no older than 1 week. Daniel Dom Mitchell schrieb: > > Joe Abley writes: > > On Thu, Jan 07, 1999 at 08:22:54AM +0000, Dom Mitchell wrote: > > > > > > Personally, I'd still describe it as a tad flaky. It works for most > > > things, but at present, there are at least 3 things I can do with an > > > nfs mounted home directory that cause the box to hang. These include > > > starting netscape or xcopilot and sending mail with MH (a bit bizzare > > > that last one, I'll admit). These are mostly just minor annyoances > > > for me at the moment which I can live with, but I'd beware of putting > > > a heavy NFS load on it. > > > > > > This is with a current compiled each Monday morning. > > > > I run 3.0 about as current as you every day as an NFS client, and I have > > seen no issues for months. The NFS server in my case is a SPARC Solaris > > 2.5.1 box, and I am running NFSv2/UDP. > > > > What's your server? > > Solaris 2.6. NFSv2/UDP. > > Actually, for all that, this week's -current appears to be running > netscape successfully again. I think the last set of changes to the > nfs directory may have improved my stability qute a bit... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 23:50:32 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA23801 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 23:50:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from korin.warman.org.pl (korin.nask.waw.pl [195.187.243.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA23788 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 23:50:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from abial@nask.pl) Received: from localhost (abial@localhost) by korin.warman.org.pl (8.9.1/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA11367; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 08:55:10 +0100 (CET) X-Authentication-Warning: korin.warman.org.pl: abial owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 08:55:10 +0100 (CET) From: Andrzej Bialecki X-Sender: abial@korin.warman.org.pl To: Brian Feldman cc: Doug Rabson , "Jordan K. Hubbard" , "John W. DeBoskey" , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Boot.flp doesn't In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 10 Jan 1999, Brian Feldman wrote: > On Sun, 10 Jan 1999, Andrzej Bialecki wrote: > > options NO_F00F_HACK > Oh come on, NO_F00F_HACK? This is damned insubstantial. NO_LKM and NO_SWAPPING Okay, I agree with you on this one.. :-) But the others DO make a difference. OBTW, did I mention PCI_QUIET? Anyway, I think we cannot escape splitting boot.flp, unless some other media will literally kill floppies out of the market within next 6 months. So, let's better think of it as a necessity, and prepare to do it flexibly. I for one would vote against crunchgen, and for some micro-packaging model, so that it would be really straightforward to even construct your own boot floppies by putting together binary pieces (like sh, bad144, kernel modules etc..). At least this is the way I'll try to go with PicoBSD, and see if it works at all ;-) Andrzej Bialecki -------------------- ++-------++ ------------------------------------- ||PicoBSD|| FreeBSD in your pocket? Go and see: Research & Academic |+-------+| "Small & Embedded FreeBSD" Network in Poland | |TT~~~| | http://www.freebsd.org/~picobsd/ -------------------- ~-+==---+-+ ------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 23:50:54 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA23924 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 23:50:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from vanessa.eliuk.org (pme184.sunshine.net [209.17.178.184]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA23856 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 23:50:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kevin_eliuk@sunshine.net) Received: from localhost (cagey@localhost) by vanessa.eliuk.org (8.9.1/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA02613; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 23:50:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cagey@vanessa.eliuk.org) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 23:49:33 -0800 (PST) From: "Kevin G. Eliuk" Reply-To: "Kevin G. Eliuk" To: lcremean@tidalwave.net cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ide_pci.c In-Reply-To: <19990111002530.A1443@tidalwave.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 11 Jan 1999, Lee Cremeans almost wrote: > dd if=/dev/rwd0 of=/dev/null bs=1024k count=50 > > on a quiet (single-user) system. I haven't done any filesystem-throughput > tests yet...this is the raw throughput through the controller. The patches allowed me to build the kernel, and I don't get the same results at boot time. With the final results of your test show similar to yours. Take a note of the "dmesg" output in my case and compare them to the raw read/write. I'm not sure what to make of this really, ... other than this motherboard and chipset really suk :-( # dmesg Copyright (c) 1992-1999 FreeBSD Inc. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT #0: Sun Jan 10 22:43:02 PST 1999 cagey@vanessa.eliuk.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/CATHERNA Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193279 Hz Timecounter "TSC" frequency 99877368 Hz CPU: Pentium/P54C (99.88-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x526 Stepping=6 Features=0x1bf real memory = 33554432 (32768K bytes) config> quit avail memory = 29822976 (29124K bytes) Bad DMI table checksum! < *=- "I have tried fixing this through the CMOS" Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xf02cf000. Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: chip0: rev 0xb3 on pci0.0.0 chip1: rev 0xb4 on pci0.2.0 vga0: rev 0x06 int a irq 0 on pci0.3.0 ide_pci0: rev 0x20 int a irq 0 on pci0.11.0 < .. irrelevant bits snipped .. > wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): , 32-bit, multi-block-16 wd0: 8010MB (16406208 sectors), 16276 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc0: unit 1 (wd1): , DMA, 32-bit, multi-block-32 wd1: 1036MB (2121840 sectors), 2105 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc1 not found at 0x170 changing root device to wd0s2a < .. irrelevant bits snipped .. > Start pid=2 Start pid=3 Start pid=4 ffs_mountfs: superblock updated for soft updates ffs_mountfs: superblock updated for soft updates ffs_mountfs: superblock updated for soft updates ffs_mountfs: superblock updated for soft updates vanessa# dd if=/dev/rwd0 of=/dev/null bs=1024k count=50 50+0 records in 50+0 records out 52428800 bytes transferred in 4.393845 secs (11932328 bytes/sec) (11.38 Mbytes/sec) vanessa# dd if=/dev/rwd1 of=/dev/null bs=1024k count=50 50+0 records in 50+0 records out 52428800 bytes transferred in 11.202356 secs (4680158 bytes/sec) (4.46 Mbytes/sec) bonnie output wd0 -------Sequential Output-------- ---Sequential Input-- --Random-- -Per Char- --Block--- -Rewrite-- -Per Char- --Block--- --Seeks--- Machine MB K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU /sec %CPU CATHERNA 64 2698 77.0 7241 42.8 2730 19.4 2828 74.7 7980 31.2 95.2 4.4 wd1 -------Sequential Output-------- ---Sequential Input-- --Random-- -Per Char- --Block--- -Rewrite-- -Per Char- --Block--- --Seeks--- Machine MB K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU /sec %CPU CATHERNA 64 3338 96.5 4120 21.8 1678 13.4 3584 95.7 4485 19.2 50.5 2.1 Regards, Kevin G. Eliuk Discover Rock Solid, Discover FreeBSD | http://www.FreeBSD.Org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 10 23:59:28 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA24795 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 23:59:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from korin.warman.org.pl (korin.nask.waw.pl [195.187.243.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA24781 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 23:59:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from abial@nask.pl) Received: from localhost (abial@localhost) by korin.warman.org.pl (8.9.1/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA12976; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 09:05:25 +0100 (CET) X-Authentication-Warning: korin.warman.org.pl: abial owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 09:05:25 +0100 (CET) From: Andrzej Bialecki X-Sender: abial@korin.warman.org.pl To: "David W. Chapman Jr." cc: freebsd-current Subject: Dset seems BROKEN (Re: Elf Kernel) In-Reply-To: <36997250.1E2DC19C@houabg.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 10 Jan 1999, David W. Chapman Jr. wrote: > Since I compiled my elf kernel, when I run the kernel -c to configure > it, the changes don't stay when I reboot, I am not running the new boot > loader, but are running the new boot blocks, anyone know what's > happening. I think 'dset' is still broken for ELF kernels. As I mentioned before, either we fix it, or replace it with a /kernel.config generator. I have written such a program, the question is: do we want to use it? So, I'd say, your only option for now is to manually write a /kernel.config file and load it. You need to run /boot/loader to be able to load /kernel.config. There's currently no other way to do it. Once you created this file, stick this invocation into your /boot/boot.conf: load /kernel load -t userconfig_script /kernel.config Andrzej Bialecki -------------------- ++-------++ ------------------------------------- ||PicoBSD|| FreeBSD in your pocket? Go and see: Research & Academic |+-------+| "Small & Embedded FreeBSD" Network in Poland | |TT~~~| | http://www.freebsd.org/~picobsd/ -------------------- ~-+==---+-+ ------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 00:01:50 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA25453 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 00:01:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from post.mail.demon.net (finch-post-10.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA25446 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 00:01:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dom@myrddin.demon.co.uk) Received: from [158.152.54.180] (helo=myrddin.demon.co.uk) by post.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 0zzcHi-0002S4-00; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 08:01:15 +0000 Received: from localhost (myrddin.demon.co.uk) [127.0.0.1] by myrddin.demon.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #1) id 0zzcBD-0002Se-00; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 07:54:31 +0000 To: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai Cc: Nik Clayton , current@FreeBSD.ORG, "Jordan K. Hubbard" Subject: Re: rc.conf and linux=yes References: From: Dom Mitchell In-Reply-To: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai's message of "Sun, 10 Jan 1999 16:51:43 +0100 (CET)" X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/XEmacs 20.4 - "Emerald" Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 07:54:31 +0000 Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai writes: > Given the fact that FreeBSD will be used more and more as a replacement of > Windows 95 for some users, they will not require a MTA to be present at > default install... It's all very well saying that, but until we have some VSM (Very Simple MTA) that just forwards mail onto a smarthost from /usr/sbin/sendmail and does nothing else, you're going to be stuck with a full blown MTA. Anybody wishing / got the time to write one? -- When I said "we", officer, I was referring to myself, the four young ladies, and, of course, the goat. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 00:01:56 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA25504 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 00:01:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from post.mail.demon.net (finch-post-10.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA25467 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 00:01:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dom@myrddin.demon.co.uk) Received: from [158.152.54.180] (helo=myrddin.demon.co.uk) by post.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 0zzcHn-0002UF-00; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 08:01:20 +0000 Received: from localhost (myrddin.demon.co.uk) [127.0.0.1] by myrddin.demon.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #1) id 0zzc6R-0002SX-00; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 07:49:35 +0000 To: Amancio Hasty Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: New Pkg System (Re: State of the union, 1999. ) References: <199901110416.UAA13553@rah.star-gate.com> From: Dom Mitchell In-Reply-To: Amancio Hasty's message of "Sun, 10 Jan 1999 20:16:55 -0800" X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/XEmacs 20.4 - "Emerald" Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 07:49:35 +0000 Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Amancio Hasty writes: > Has anyone thought of using XML , for instance, CDF - Channel Distribution > Format, for describing packages? It sounds a lovely idea for describing the metadata of packages, IMHO. Definitely prefererrable to the overloaded lines of text that we have now. However, you would have to bring in a fair amount of XML related software into the tree. Given that Unix is traditionally a text-processing system, I personally think that this would be a step forward. I'd love to have XML stuff in the base system that I can use. easily. But, to bring that much code in *just* for the packages mechanism is probably overkill. You'd need to start using it elsewhere to really pay off. -- When I said "we", officer, I was referring to myself, the four young ladies, and, of course, the goat. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 00:03:38 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA25774 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 00:03:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [128.120.56.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA25767 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 00:03:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA42992; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 00:03:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 00:03:03 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: "Brian W. Buchanan" Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: State of the union, 1999. Message-ID: <19990111000303.A42890@relay.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@NUXI.com References: <19990110191559.A7530@pagesz.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: ; from Brian W. Buchanan on Sun, Jan 10, 1999 at 05:08:27PM -0800 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I'd really love to see some posters with Chuck. I think one of Chuck with > a starfield background, a little motion blur, and a big yellow "The Power > to Serve" logo at the top would look teriffic on the wall next to my PC. :) Actually, Walnut Creek used to sell posters (summer 1996 time frame). I was lucky enough to get 4 when they were selling their stock off. It is 23"x17" and has chuck walking out of a CDROM (just like on the CDROM cover art) on white background. Under chuck spanning the width is "FreeBSD" in red. At the bottom is "Turning PC's into Workstations." + WC's contact information. -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.com -or- obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 00:08:19 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA26485 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 00:08:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (sj-dsl-9-129-138.dspeed.net [209.249.129.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA26480 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 00:08:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA16904; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 00:05:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199901110805.AAA16904@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Dom Mitchell cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: New Pkg System (Re: State of the union, 1999. ) In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 11 Jan 1999 07:49:35 GMT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 00:05:58 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG We already have DTD is subset of SGML and CDF is a subset of XML which is a subset of SGML 8) CDF is one small set for a FreeBSD active desktop . What will be interesting to find out is if netscape 5.0 will support CDF... Cheers, Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 00:11:04 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA26931 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 00:11:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from axl.noc.iafrica.com (axl.noc.iafrica.com [196.31.1.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA26926 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 00:11:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sheldonh@axl.noc.iafrica.com) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.noc.iafrica.com) by axl.noc.iafrica.com with local-esmtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 0zzcQc-00009x-00 for current@freebsd.org; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 10:10:26 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: GENERICupgrade needed after ``make world'' Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 10:10:26 +0200 Message-ID: <616.916042226@axl.noc.iafrica.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi folks, Does installing and rebooting with a GENERICupgrade kernel do anything for me if this was my upgrade plan: Fetch RELENG_3_0_0_RELEASE make world rebuild & install custom kernel reboot make aout-to-elf-build make aout-to-elf-install Or is the GENERICupgrade kernel install only to protect people who go straight from fetching the source to doing make aout-to-elf ? Thanks, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 00:19:42 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA28007 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 00:19:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hcshh.hcs.de (hcshh.hcs.de [194.123.40.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA27991 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 00:19:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hm@hcs.de) Received: from hcswork.hcs.de([192.76.124.5]) (1393 bytes) by hcshh.hcs.de via sendmail with P:smtp/R:inet_hosts/T:smtp (sender: ) id for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 09:18:51 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2.0.101 1997-Dec-17 #2 built 1998-Jun-26) Received: by hcswork.hcs.de (Smail3.1.29.0 #12) id m0zzcc6-0000f3C; Mon, 11 Jan 99 09:22 MET Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 09:22:18 +0100 From: Hellmuth Michaelis To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: i4b devices not made Message-ID: <19990111092217.A14500@hcswork.hcs.de> Reply-To: hm@hcs.de Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: ; from Leif Neland on Mon, Jan 11, 1999 at 01:55:03AM +0100 Organization: HCS Hanseatischer Computerservice GmbH Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jan 11, 1999 at 01:55:03AM +0100, Leif Neland wrote: > MAKEDEV doesn't create any needed devices for i4b. This has changed. An update to MAKEDEV to make i4b devices was committed some days ago. hellmuth -- Hellmuth Michaelis Tel +49 40 559747-70 HCS Hanseatischer Computerservice GmbH Fax +49 40 559747-77 Oldesloer Strasse 97-99 Mail hm [at] hcs.de 22457 Hamburg WWW http://www.hcs.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 00:27:13 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA29130 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 00:27:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mrelay.jrc.it (mrelay.jrc.it [139.191.1.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA29119 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 00:27:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nick.hibma@jrc.it) Received: from elect8 (elect8.jrc.it [139.191.71.152]) by mrelay.jrc.it (LMC5692) with SMTP id JAA06644; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 09:27:48 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 09:26:23 +0100 (MET) From: Nick Hibma X-Sender: n_hibma@elect8 Reply-To: Nick Hibma To: usb-bsd@egroups.com cc: FreeBSD current Mailing list , Kazutaka YOKOTA Subject: Re: [usb-bsd] Re: Hand needed: debugging the USB mouse driver In-Reply-To: <199901110503.OAA20893@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [thanks for all the info] > The level 0 is "compatibility level." The drivers stick to the ... > The level 1 is "sysmouse level". 8 byte sysmouse protocol is used in ... > The level 2 is called "native level." Currently only the psm driver > > The FreeBSD USB mouse driver should at least implement the level 0 and > 1 operation. If there already is an sort of accepted data format for > the USB mouse, that should be used for the level 0. The level 1 must > use the sysmouse protocol. > > (The level 0 may use the sysmouse protocol too, if there doesn't seem > to be the De facto standard yet. The OSes may choose to implement the > sysmouse protocol too, if it suits them.) At the moment level 0 is PS/2 (3 buttons, 2 directions) and I tried to get the third direction working. But it makes sense to push that into level two. This means however that we need multiple encoding routines. Probably best is to use sysmouse at level 0 & 1 and support both levels? Nick -- ISIS/STA, T.P.270, Joint Research Centre, 21020 Ispra, Italy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 00:39:49 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA00729 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 00:39:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from apollo.backplane.com (apollo.backplane.com [209.157.86.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA00724 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 00:39:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA90904; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 00:39:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 00:39:14 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <199901110839.AAA90904@apollo.backplane.com> To: "Carlos C. Tapang" Cc: "Jos Backus" , Subject: Re: Two seem-to-be bugs with 3.0-SNAP Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :> Ah, I missed that one. pwd_mkdb was earlier modified to do locking :> (which it didn't do before). So now that it does, programs that :> use it shoulds either use pwd_mkdb's -N option so they can hold their :> own lock all the way through, or not hold a lock. : :Won't this require a change in sysinstall also? : :Carlos C. Tapang :http://www.genericwindows.com I don't think so. sysinstall does not appear to lock the password file on its own. -Matt Matthew Dillon Engineering, HiWay Technologies, Inc. & BEST Internet Communications & God knows what else. (Please include original email in any response) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 00:43:56 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA01319 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 00:43:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ayukawa.aus.org (ayukawa.aus.org [199.166.246.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA01312 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 00:43:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lh@aus.org) Received: from bsd.aus.org (lh@bsd.aus.org [199.166.246.189]) by ayukawa.aus.org (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA00189 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 03:23:59 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199901110823.DAA00189@ayukawa.aus.org> X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3-beta-042198 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 03:42:44 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: lh@aus.org From: Luke To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Why does current build AOUT Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I just checked out -current, and am running an ELF system, I nuked usr/obj and did make buildworld It seems to be building an entire aout version after finishing the elf. Should I re cvs it and clean or is it on purpose? --- E-Mail: Luke Sent by XFMail ---------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 00:50:21 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA02200 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 00:50:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles351.castles.com [208.214.167.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA02194 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 00:50:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA87836; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 00:43:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199901110843.AAA87836@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: lh@aus.org cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Why does current build AOUT In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 11 Jan 1999 03:42:44 EST." <199901110823.DAA00189@ayukawa.aus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 00:43:08 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I just checked out -current, and am running an ELF system, > I nuked usr/obj and did > make buildworld > It seems to be building an entire aout version after finishing the elf. > Should I re cvs it and clean or is it on purpose? The a.out stuff is updated in parallel to support old binaries. Use '-DNOAOUT' if you don't want to build it. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 01:29:16 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA06164 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 01:29:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.26.10.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA06156 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 01:29:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bde@godzilla.zeta.org.au) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA17408; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 20:28:31 +1100 Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 20:28:31 +1100 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199901110928.UAA17408@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: ijliao@dragon2.net, lcremean@tidalwave.net Subject: Re: ide_pci Cc: culverk@wam.umd.edu, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >> > options DISABLE_PCI_IDE >> >> i have a question : >> since this options can solve 2nd ide channel problem, why not introduce this >> options in LINT ? > >This does sound like a good idea to me, but I think there's already been a >fix committed to wd.c for it. Apparently > >options ALI_V > >also does the trick, if you have version 1.182 of wd.c (do ident >/sys/i386/isa/wd.c to check). Both of these options are bogus. DISABLE_PCI_IDE works by arranging for buggy code in wdprobe() to not be run. It doesn't actually disable PCI IDE, since simiilar but non-buggy code in wdgetctlr() is still run. It disables buggy support for (Promise only?) IDE interfaces with more than 4 devices. PCI IDE is disabled by not enabling it in the wdc flags. ALI_V has no effect except to obfuscate the code. Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 01:36:03 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA06881 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 01:36:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA06816 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 01:35:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id IAA19629; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 08:28:22 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199901110728.IAA19629@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: how to play with pci128 sound card To: c5666305@hkstar.com (Chan Yiu Wah) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 08:28:22 +0100 (MET) Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Chan Yiu Wah" at Jan 11, 99 11:45:04 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > device pcm0 at isa? port ? tty irq 10 drq 1 flags 0x0 > and the system recognized it as > es1: rev 0x00 int a irq 9 on pci0.10.0 > pcm1: using I/O space register mapping at 0x6c00 > > Then. I cd /dev and ./MAKEDEV snd1 and tried to play splay and the result > is splay: Failed to open sound device. I had checked the dsp1 did exist. > Can anyone show me the trick to solve it. i have heard that splay does not work well with the es1370 driver -- the latter does not implement all ioctl that are needed.. luigi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 01:49:31 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA08274 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 01:49:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from polaris.we.lc.ehu.es (polaris.we.lc.ehu.es [158.227.6.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA07791 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 01:45:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jose@we.lc.ehu.es) Received: from we.lc.ehu.es (tiburon [158.227.6.111]) by polaris.we.lc.ehu.es (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA03696; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 10:42:36 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <3699C78B.3A74F041@we.lc.ehu.es> Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 10:42:35 +0100 From: "José Mª Alcaide" Organization: Universidad del País Vasco - Dept. de Electricidad y Electrónica X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kazutaka YOKOTA CC: Drew Derbyshire , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: new console driver and LKM/KLD References: <199901110339.MAA17650@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> <369973B5.BFE3E06A@kew.com> <199901110408.NAA18771@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kazutaka YOKOTA wrote: > > The pseudo-device splash implements necessary interface between the > console driver and KLD splash/saver modules; it's not a screen saver > itself. > Is the pseudo-device splash needed for the savers "blank" and "green"? -- JMA ----------------------------------------------------------------------- José Mª Alcaide | mailto:jose@we.lc.ehu.es Universidad del País Vasco | http://www.we.lc.ehu.es/~jose Dpto. de Electricidad y Electrónica | Facultad de Ciencias - Campus de Lejona | Tel.: +34-946012479 48940 Lejona (Vizcaya) - SPAIN | Fax: +34-944858139 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- "Go ahead... make my day." - H. Callahan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 02:03:52 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA09714 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 02:03:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rnocserv.urc.ac.ru (rnocserv.urc.ac.ru [193.233.85.48]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA09700 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 02:03:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from joy@urc.ac.ru) Received: from urc.ac.ru (y.urc.ac.ru [193.233.85.37]) by rnocserv.urc.ac.ru (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA12964 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 15:02:34 +0500 (ES) (envelope-from joy@urc.ac.ru) Message-ID: <3699CC3A.6BFF7CE0@urc.ac.ru> Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 15:02:34 +0500 From: Konstantin Chuguev Organization: Southern Regional Center of FREEnet X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386) X-Accept-Language: ru, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: rpc.statd eats 257M on 3.0-CURRENT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi. I'm not sure, is it a bug or a feature? RR01:~# top last pid: 7755; load averages: 0.03, 0.01, 0.00 up 4+23:52:40 14:34:55 21 processes: 1 running, 20 sleeping CPU states: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 0.0% system, 2.3% interrupt, 97.7% idle Mem: 3960K Active, 3400K Inact, 4264K Wired, 2156K Cache, 1459K Buf, 468K Free Swap: 48M Total, 3776K Used, 44M Free, 8% Inuse PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND 7751 root 2 0 1244K 800K select 0:00 0.55% 0.29% sshd1 .................... 147 root 2 0 257M 256K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% rpc.statd ^^^ !!! Of cource, I know that while the process don't begin to access its VM pages, they don't need to be allocated. But if rpc.statd wants such amount of memory, where is the guarantee it won't fill it up sometime? RR01:~# uname -a FreeBSD RR01.urc.ac.ru 3.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT #0: Wed Jan 6 14:38:26 ES 1999 root@y.urc.ac.ru:/amd/buildserv/usr/build/src-current/sys/compile/RR01 i386 For the present, 3 routers and 1 X-Windows workstation based on 3.0-CURRENT work fine. But I'm not sure all is OK with rpc.statd (I use NFS on all of them). Kernels are comiled Jan 6. What do kernel gurus think about this? -- Konstantin V. Chuguev. System administrator of Southern http://www.urc.ac.ru/~joy/ Ural Regional Center of FREEnet, mailto:joy@urc.ac.ru Chelyabinsk, Russia. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 02:05:15 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA10038 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 02:05:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.196.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA10032 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 02:05:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (IDENT:8XubEPsPuWiWJKNAIpAHZKbeb+owVywA@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA03027; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 19:04:15 +0900 (JST) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.7.6+2.6Wbeta7/3.4W/zodiac-May96) with ESMTP id TAA02476; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 19:06:41 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199901111006.TAA02476@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> To: Nick Hibma cc: usb-bsd@egroups.com, FreeBSD current Mailing list , yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 19:06:40 +0900 From: Kazutaka YOKOTA Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [usb-bsd] Re: Hand needed: debugging the USB mouse driver In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 11 Jan 1999 09:26:23 +0100." References: ----------------------------------------------------------------- >[thanks for all the info] > > > The level 0 is "compatibility level." The drivers stick to the >... > > The level 1 is "sysmouse level". 8 byte sysmouse protocol is used in >... > > The level 2 is called "native level." Currently only the psm driver > > > > The FreeBSD USB mouse driver should at least implement the level 0 and > > 1 operation. If there already is an sort of accepted data format for > > the USB mouse, that should be used for the level 0. The level 1 must > > use the sysmouse protocol. > > > > (The level 0 may use the sysmouse protocol too, if there doesn't seem > > to be the De facto standard yet. The OSes may choose to implement the ~~~~~~~ <- I meant to say "the OSes other than FreeBSD" > > sysmouse protocol too, if it suits them.) > >At the moment level 0 is PS/2 (3 buttons, 2 directions) and I tried to >get the third direction working. > >But it makes sense to push that into level two. This means however that >we need multiple encoding routines. The standard PS/2 mouse protocol is 3 byte long and does not have a field for the third axis (Z axis) motion. If you think you prefer the PS/2 mouse style protocol, I think you should use the standard 3 byte protocol at level 0, and the PS/2 IntelliMouse protocol (4 byte long and encodes the third axis motion and the third button in the 4th byte) at level 2. But, as I understand that the USB mouse can have more buttons, I don't think the PS/2 IntelliMouse protocol is suitable for the level 2 protocol, because sooner or later we have to change the level 2 protocol to accomodate more buttons. >Probably best is to use sysmouse at level 0 & 1 and support both levels? Or a) Use the standard PS/2 protocol at level 0, sysmouse at level 1. or b) Use MouseSystems protocol at level 0, sysmouse at level 1. (The first 5 bytes of the sysmouse protocol is the same as the MouseSystems protocol.) We can leave the level 2 protocol undecided for the time being. Kazu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 02:09:29 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA10302 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 02:09:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.196.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA10297 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 02:09:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (IDENT:ft5OsN8iJRjMTa/Ceg6ytSbA5Lpz7+ki@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA03288; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 19:08:03 +0900 (JST) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.7.6+2.6Wbeta7/3.4W/zodiac-May96) with ESMTP id TAA02643; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 19:10:29 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199901111010.TAA02643@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> To: jose@we.lc.ehu.es cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp Subject: Re: new console driver and LKM/KLD Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 19:10:28 +0900 From: Kazutaka YOKOTA Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >> The pseudo-device splash implements necessary interface between the >> console driver and KLD splash/saver modules; it's not a screen saver >> itself. >> > >Is the pseudo-device splash needed for the savers "blank" and "green"? Yes. Kazu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 02:12:51 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA10659 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 02:12:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mrelay.jrc.it (mrelay.jrc.it [139.191.1.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA10648 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 02:12:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nick.hibma@jrc.it) Received: from elect8 (elect8.jrc.it [139.191.71.152]) by mrelay.jrc.it (LMC5692) with SMTP id LAA11543; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 11:13:20 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 11:11:58 +0100 (MET) From: Nick Hibma X-Sender: n_hibma@elect8 Reply-To: Nick Hibma To: Kazutaka YOKOTA cc: usb-bsd@egroups.com, FreeBSD current Mailing list Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: <199901111006.TAA02476@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > >At the moment level 0 is PS/2 (3 buttons, 2 directions) and I tried to > >get the third direction working. > > > >But it makes sense to push that into level two. This means however that > >we need multiple encoding routines. Forgive me, I meant level 1. > a) Use the standard PS/2 protocol at level 0, sysmouse at level 1. > b) Use MouseSystems protocol at level 0, sysmouse at level 1. (The > first 5 bytes of the sysmouse protocol is the same as the MouseSystems > protocol.) Probably, if compatibility is an issue, b) is the best solution probably. Nick -- ISIS/STA, T.P.270, Joint Research Centre, 21020 Ispra, Italy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 02:15:37 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA10916 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 02:15:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from news-ma.rhein-neckar.de (news-ma.rhein-neckar.de [193.197.90.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA10911 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 02:15:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de) Received: from mips.rhein-neckar.de (uucp@localhost) by news-ma.rhein-neckar.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with bsmtp id LAA06084 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 11:14:57 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de) Received: by mips.rhein-neckar.de id m0zzXA8-000WyXC (Debian Smail-3.2.0.101 1997-Dec-17 #2); Mon, 11 Jan 1999 03:33:04 +0100 (CET) From: naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de (Christian Weisgerber) Subject: Re: State of the union, 1999. Date: 11 Jan 1999 03:33:02 +0100 Message-ID: <77bnsu$eq3$1@mips.rhein-neckar.de> References: <49859.915950870@zippy.cdrom.com> <19990110191559.A7530@pagesz.net> To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article <19990110191559.A7530@pagesz.net>, Randall Hopper wrote: > Anyone selling a slick-looking stuffed daemon (Chuck). My office could use > some color :-) Apparently they still haven't gotten around to providing an English version of their pages. :-( -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de carpe librum: books 'n' reviews To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 02:44:04 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA13244 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 02:44:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za [146.64.24.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA13218 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 02:43:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhay@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za) Received: (from jhay@localhost) by zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA00682; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 12:38:04 +0200 (SAT) From: John Hay Message-Id: <199901111038.MAA00682@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za> Subject: Re: Boot.flp doesn't In-Reply-To: from Andrzej Bialecki at "Jan 10, 99 11:07:55 pm" To: abial@nask.pl (Andrzej Bialecki) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 12:38:04 +0200 (SAT) Cc: dfr@nlsystems.com, jkh@zippy.cdrom.com, jwd@unx.sas.com, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > > > > it looks like the loader doesn't understand a gzipped kernel. > > > > > > Yeah, it also looks like we're going to be out of the release business > > > for awhile. We've hit another space crunch and I'm not yet sure > > > what to do about it. > > ....forgot about three more: > > * add NO_IPX flag to ifconfig's Makefile and source, define this flag for > RELEASE_CRUNCH, and remove libipx from crunch.conf > > * remove 'options "COMPAT_43"' - experiments have shown that this > particular set of programs doesn't care. > > * add: > options NO_LKM > options NO_SWAPPING > options NO_F00F_HACK What about removing NFS on the boot.flp also? John -- John Hay -- John.Hay@mikom.csir.co.za To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 02:48:53 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA13924 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 02:48:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles351.castles.com [208.214.167.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA13916 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 02:48:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA90355; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 02:43:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199901111043.CAA90355@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: John Hay cc: abial@nask.pl (Andrzej Bialecki), dfr@nlsystems.com, jkh@zippy.cdrom.com, jwd@unx.sas.com, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Boot.flp doesn't In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 11 Jan 1999 12:38:04 +0200." <199901111038.MAA00682@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 02:43:30 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > > > > > > it looks like the loader doesn't understand a gzipped kernel. > > > > > > > > Yeah, it also looks like we're going to be out of the release business > > > > for awhile. We've hit another space crunch and I'm not yet sure > > > > what to do about it. > > > > ....forgot about three more: > > > > * add NO_IPX flag to ifconfig's Makefile and source, define this flag for > > RELEASE_CRUNCH, and remove libipx from crunch.conf > > > > * remove 'options "COMPAT_43"' - experiments have shown that this > > particular set of programs doesn't care. > > > > * add: > > options NO_LKM > > options NO_SWAPPING > > options NO_F00F_HACK > > What about removing NFS on the boot.flp also? The server code is already removed; you could put the nfs_mod.ko file on a second floppy though. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 02:54:26 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA14576 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 02:54:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from korin.warman.org.pl (korin.nask.waw.pl [195.187.243.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA14570 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 02:54:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from abial@nask.pl) Received: from localhost (abial@localhost) by korin.warman.org.pl (8.9.1/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA10562; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 11:56:05 +0100 (CET) X-Authentication-Warning: korin.warman.org.pl: abial owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 11:56:04 +0100 (CET) From: Andrzej Bialecki X-Sender: abial@korin.warman.org.pl To: Mike Smith cc: John Hay , dfr@nlsystems.com, jkh@zippy.cdrom.com, jwd@unx.sas.com, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Boot.flp doesn't In-Reply-To: <199901111043.CAA90355@dingo.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 11 Jan 1999, Mike Smith wrote: > > > * add: > > > options NO_LKM > > > options NO_SWAPPING > > > options NO_F00F_HACK > > > > What about removing NFS on the boot.flp also? > > The server code is already removed; you could put the nfs_mod.ko file > on a second floppy though. Wait a moment. If we really want to go this way, why don't put the whole bunch of modules on a second floppy, and cut down the kernel size by half? Andrzej Bialecki -------------------- ++-------++ ------------------------------------- ||PicoBSD|| FreeBSD in your pocket? Go and see: Research & Academic |+-------+| "Small & Embedded FreeBSD" Network in Poland | |TT~~~| | http://www.freebsd.org/~picobsd/ -------------------- ~-+==---+-+ ------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 03:01:11 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA15311 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 03:01:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za [146.64.24.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA15299 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 03:01:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhay@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za) Received: (from jhay@localhost) by zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA00994; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 12:58:41 +0200 (SAT) From: John Hay Message-Id: <199901111058.MAA00994@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za> Subject: Re: Boot.flp doesn't In-Reply-To: <199901111043.CAA90355@dingo.cdrom.com> from Mike Smith at "Jan 11, 99 02:43:30 am" To: mike@smith.net.au (Mike Smith) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 12:58:41 +0200 (SAT) Cc: jhay@mikom.csir.co.za, abial@nask.pl, dfr@nlsystems.com, jkh@zippy.cdrom.com, jwd@unx.sas.com, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > > > > > > > > it looks like the loader doesn't understand a gzipped kernel. > > > > > > > > > > Yeah, it also looks like we're going to be out of the release business > > > > > for awhile. We've hit another space crunch and I'm not yet sure > > > > > what to do about it. > > > > > > ....forgot about three more: > > > > > > * add NO_IPX flag to ifconfig's Makefile and source, define this flag for > > > RELEASE_CRUNCH, and remove libipx from crunch.conf > > > > > > * remove 'options "COMPAT_43"' - experiments have shown that this > > > particular set of programs doesn't care. > > > > > > * add: > > > options NO_LKM > > > options NO_SWAPPING > > > options NO_F00F_HACK > > > > What about removing NFS on the boot.flp also? > > The server code is already removed; you could put the nfs_mod.ko file > on a second floppy though. > That was what I was thinking of. I think ftp installs are much more used than nfs installs and for that reason nfs could move to the second floppy and few (I think) people would be impacted. John -- John Hay -- John.Hay@mikom.csir.co.za To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 03:05:20 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA15803 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 03:05:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles351.castles.com [208.214.167.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA15798 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 03:05:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA90448; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 02:59:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199901111059.CAA90448@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Andrzej Bialecki cc: Mike Smith , John Hay , dfr@nlsystems.com, jkh@zippy.cdrom.com, jwd@unx.sas.com, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Boot.flp doesn't In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 11 Jan 1999 11:56:04 +0100." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 02:59:55 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Mon, 11 Jan 1999, Mike Smith wrote: > > > > > * add: > > > > options NO_LKM > > > > options NO_SWAPPING > > > > options NO_F00F_HACK > > > > > > What about removing NFS on the boot.flp also? > > > > The server code is already removed; you could put the nfs_mod.ko file > > on a second floppy though. > > Wait a moment. If we really want to go this way, why don't put the whole > bunch of modules on a second floppy, and cut down the kernel size by half? That was the plan. NFS is a good start. Ideally, we should leave a little room on the first floppy so that people can customise it to avoid needing two floppies... -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 03:14:05 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA16769 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 03:14:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from korin.warman.org.pl (korin.nask.waw.pl [195.187.243.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA16764 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 03:14:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from abial@nask.pl) Received: from localhost (abial@localhost) by korin.warman.org.pl (8.9.1/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA13798; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 12:17:24 +0100 (CET) X-Authentication-Warning: korin.warman.org.pl: abial owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 12:17:24 +0100 (CET) From: Andrzej Bialecki X-Sender: abial@korin.warman.org.pl To: Mike Smith cc: John Hay , dfr@nlsystems.com, jkh@zippy.cdrom.com, jwd@unx.sas.com, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Boot.flp doesn't In-Reply-To: <199901111059.CAA90448@dingo.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 11 Jan 1999, Mike Smith wrote: > > Wait a moment. If we really want to go this way, why don't put the whole > > bunch of modules on a second floppy, and cut down the kernel size by half? > > That was the plan. NFS is a good start. Ideally, we should leave a > little room on the first floppy so that people can customise it to > avoid needing two floppies... When you say "customizing", do you mean that they be able to put required modules on the first floppy? This IMHO would beg for a sysinstall submenu - I'm not sure how many (l)users would be comfortable with mount, cp, rm etc... Andrzej Bialecki -------------------- ++-------++ ------------------------------------- ||PicoBSD|| FreeBSD in your pocket? Go and see: Research & Academic |+-------+| "Small & Embedded FreeBSD" Network in Poland | |TT~~~| | http://www.freebsd.org/~picobsd/ -------------------- ~-+==---+-+ ------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 03:18:20 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA17196 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 03:18:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles351.castles.com [208.214.167.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA17191 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 03:18:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA90541; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 03:14:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199901111114.DAA90541@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Andrzej Bialecki cc: Mike Smith , John Hay , dfr@nlsystems.com, jkh@zippy.cdrom.com, jwd@unx.sas.com, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Boot.flp doesn't In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 11 Jan 1999 12:17:24 +0100." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 03:14:03 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Mon, 11 Jan 1999, Mike Smith wrote: > > > > Wait a moment. If we really want to go this way, why don't put the whole > > > bunch of modules on a second floppy, and cut down the kernel size by half? > > > > That was the plan. NFS is a good start. Ideally, we should leave a > > little room on the first floppy so that people can customise it to > > avoid needing two floppies... > > When you say "customizing", do you mean that they be able to put required > modules on the first floppy? This IMHO would beg for a sysinstall submenu > - I'm not sure how many (l)users would be comfortable with mount, cp, rm > etc... Only as a "wizard" facility, so that people with eg. lots of NFS installs to do could copy the NFS .ko module onto the first floppy to avoid floppy-swapping. You might do this by putting the cd9660 .ko on the first floppy, and allowing people to nuke it to make space. This still needs lots of thought, obviously, but it seems to be the only way we can go. I wonder if Justin would be up to turning CAM into a set of KLD modules? -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 03:31:19 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA19301 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 03:31:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail11.svr.pol.co.uk (mail11.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA19292 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 03:31:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from A.M.Zanker@open.ac.uk) Received: from modem-25.chlorine.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.8.25] helo=jemima) by mail11.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 0zzfYR-0003Hf-00 for current@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 11:30:43 +0000 Message-Id: <4.1.19990111101909.009727d0@aire.open.ac.uk> X-Sender: mikez@aire.open.ac.uk (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 10:21:35 +0000 To: current@FreeBSD.ORG From: Mike Zanker Subject: Re: No vpo man page In-Reply-To: <36993B21.2A19A836@we.lc.ehu.es> References: <4.1.19990110174206.00940870@aire.open.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id DAA19295 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 23:43 10/01/99 , Jos M Alcaide wrote: >What slice are you trying to mount? I don't know why, but [some] >DOS-formatted ZIPs have the filesystem in slice 4. Use the fdisk >utility to ask for slices. Thanks - I was trying to mount slice 4 but it turned out that the disk had a Mac filesystem on it. Everything's OK now. Mike -- Mike Zanker, Academic Computing Service, The Open University, UK Tel: +44 1908 652726, Fax: +44 1908 652193 Views expressed are personal and do not necessarily reflect University opinion. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 03:48:24 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA21377 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 03:48:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from keymaster.etla.net (etla.Stanford.EDU [171.64.202.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA21372 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 03:48:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hibma@skylink.it) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by keymaster.etla.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id DAA18586; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 03:47:37 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 12:46:32 +0100 (CET) From: Nick Hibma X-Sender: n_hibma@henny.jrc.it Reply-To: hibma@skylink.it To: Christian Weisgerber cc: FreeBSD current mailing list Subject: Re: State of the union, 1999. In-Reply-To: <77bnsu$eq3$1@mips.rhein-neckar.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > And see http://www.etla.net/~n_hibma/fbsd-daemon/ for a cool picture of it. That's a full size (European full size that is) fridge. > Apparently they still haven't gotten around to providing an English > version of their pages. :-( I've bloody sent them a translation! (and the page above is a translated version of an old page of theirs) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 04:31:00 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA26524 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 04:31:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from adelphi.physics.adelaide.edu.au (adelphi.physics.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.36.247]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA26519 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 04:30:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kkennawa@physics.adelaide.edu.au) Received: from bragg (bragg [129.127.36.34]) by adelphi.physics.adelaide.edu.au (8.8.8/8.8.8/UofA-1.5) with SMTP id XAA08369; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 23:00:21 +1030 (CST) Received: from localhost by bragg; (5.65/1.1.8.2/05Aug95-0227PM) id AA25873; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 23:00:19 +1030 Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 23:00:19 +1030 (CST) From: Kris Kennaway X-Sender: kkennawa@bragg To: "Kevin G. Eliuk" Cc: Kenneth Wayne Culver , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: MSDOS filesystems being corrupted? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 28 Dec 1998, Kevin G. Eliuk wrote: > On Tue, 29 Dec 1998, Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote: > > > > Recently (past few months, unable to be more specific, sorry) I've noticed my > > > msdos partitions being declared "damaged" by Nortun Utilities under win95 > > > after I've been writing to them under freebsd (specifically, disk doctor will > > > find lost clusters and "repair" them by removing the file.) All I usually need > > > to do is create a few (large? The last one which got reaped was about 40MB) > > > files on the DOS partition - I don't notice any problems accessing them under > > > bsd. > > > > > > Has anyone else seen this behaviour? > > > > > I have seen this behavior, but only on floppies, that's wierd about your > > norton, Scandisk doesn't give me any problems on my msdos partition, but I > > don't put large files there. I mostly just read from that disk. > > After a recent botch with partition magic I was able to recover 1.5MB of > files, reformat the partition and replace them. Other than some serious > fragmentation as far as I know nothing was lost, actually I think the > performance improved :) > > I believe this was after a Dec22 build. > > Could it be something in NU. I forgot to reply to this when I investigated further; I copied another large file onto my msdos partition, and after rebooting into win95 Norton Utilities complained about having found a damaged partition. Cancelling the dialog box and running M$ ScanDisk revealed no errors - therefore something is being done by the MSDOS filesystem code which ScanDisk is happy with, but NU is not. Should I open a PR on this? Kris ----- (ASP) Microsoft Corporation (MSFT) announced today that the release of its productivity suite, Office 2000, will be delayed until the first quarter of 1901. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 04:50:58 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA28831 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 04:50:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from shale.csir.co.za (shale.csir.co.za [146.64.46.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA28825 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 04:50:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from reg@shale.csir.co.za) Received: (from reg@localhost) by shale.csir.co.za (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA51342; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 14:49:06 +0200 (SAT) (envelope-from reg) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 14:49:06 +0200 From: Jeremy Lea To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: State of the union, 1999. Message-ID: <19990111144906.A3187@shale.csir.co.za> References: <49859.915950870@zippy.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: <49859.915950870@zippy.cdrom.com>; from Jordan K. Hubbard on Sat, Jan 09, 1999 at 10:47:50PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, On Sat, Jan 09, 1999 at 10:47:50PM -0800, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > Release numbering: Probably already covered, but I wanted to say that you should make a big deal of this when it comes to people following branches. If people think that the 3.0->3.1 jump is the same as say the 2.1->2.2 jump, then there will be a big demand for a larger number of -stable branches. So you need to make them aware that there will now be one -stable branch for each major number. Is the new tag going to be RELENG_3? Regards, -Jeremy PS Why didn't you go for FreeBSD'99? :-) -- | "Come home my prodigal son, come home and lets be one, --+-- don't want to see you cry, don't make me tell you why, | you've lived in a house with me, my blood has set you free, | in the world you'll surely die, nothing else will satisfy." -MIC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 04:57:09 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA29354 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 04:57:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA29348 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 04:57:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN) id VAA15978; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 21:56:24 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <3699F268.21689F2D@newsguy.com> Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 21:45:28 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dom Mitchell CC: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai , Nik Clayton , current@FreeBSD.ORG, "Jordan K. Hubbard" Subject: Re: rc.conf and linux=yes References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dom Mitchell wrote: > > Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai writes: > > Given the fact that FreeBSD will be used more and more as a replacement of > > Windows 95 for some users, they will not require a MTA to be present at > > default install... > > It's all very well saying that, but until we have some VSM (Very > Simple MTA) that just forwards mail onto a smarthost from > /usr/sbin/sendmail and does nothing else, you're going to be stuck > with a full blown MTA. > > Anybody wishing / got the time to write one? Well, there is something called Postfix that is actually composed of multiple programs, so you can strip it down to bare bones and do just the above (or even less) if you want to. I even heard someone mentioning bringing Postfix into the tree... :-) -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com If you sell your soul to the Devil and all you get is an MCSE from it, you haven't gotten market rate. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 05:02:35 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA29744 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 05:02:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA29738 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 05:02:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN) id VAA15936; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 21:56:05 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <3699F17D.3D89A4A0@newsguy.com> Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 21:41:33 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrzej Bialecki CC: Mike Smith , John Hay , dfr@nlsystems.com, jkh@zippy.cdrom.com, jwd@unx.sas.com, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Boot.flp doesn't References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Gee... that's a lot of cc's... Andrzej Bialecki wrote: > > > > What about removing NFS on the boot.flp also? > > > > The server code is already removed; you could put the nfs_mod.ko file > > on a second floppy though. > > Wait a moment. If we really want to go this way, why don't put the whole > bunch of modules on a second floppy, and cut down the kernel size by half? Now, if my memory doesn't fail me, there are some people who do NFS installs on a sizable number of machines (emphasis on size) who have previously manifested the intention to kill anyone who makes them boot two disks instead of one. If we had to choose, I'd say try to keep it one disk as far as network installations are concerned. Other people may be able to boot from cd most of the time. Hey, maybe we can even get some .ko's from the cd... :-) -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com If you sell your soul to the Devil and all you get is an MCSE from it, you haven't gotten market rate. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 05:03:35 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA29816 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 05:03:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from assurance.rstcorp.com ([206.29.49.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA29798; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 05:03:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vshah@rstcorp.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by assurance.rstcorp.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA01564; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 08:02:58 -0500 Received: from sandbox.rstcorp.com(206.29.49.63) by assurance.rstcorp.com via smap (V2.0) id xma001562; Mon, 11 Jan 99 08:02:56 -0500 Received: from jabberwock.rstcorp.com (jabberwock [206.29.49.98]) by sandbox.rstcorp.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA08013; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 08:02:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from vshah@localhost) by jabberwock.rstcorp.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) id IAA42488; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 08:02:55 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 08:02:55 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199901111302.IAA42488@jabberwock.rstcorp.com> From: "Viren R. Shah" To: Kazutaka YOKOTA Cc: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re:Splash screen for 3.0-CURRENT! In-Reply-To: <199901110348.MAA17998@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> References: <199901110348.MAA17998@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 19.16 "Lille" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: "Viren R. Shah" X-Face: )~y+U*K:yzjz{q<5lzpI_SVef'U.])9g[C9`1N@]u3,MHY7f*l7C)[_NjM4y4K8$uIUh|\u (K&&HS6,M!61&GMTk'mqmB/Qg]]X}"?TzsFl]"2v!bl8']dma.:^IY^a[lbOI>U:b<~FyK3q-p{HmZ mn~g.`~BE!5{2D:}Yi+\_KkWe?XaHj9$ko1k8iKLYv5*_2c8"G=?Up[}hn+7RNM(bzBZ_wWk6!Pf&B ?3Tcm7M7B~W%K/I0aX3]*=jP?aM]H6HBPT`oLk+0n^_;N\2\%|Rhy;p}34Q.jEsM\qtnxcm;ag%Nq Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [set to -chat, since this is not -current material anymore. Bcc'ed to -current] >>>>> "Kazu" == Kazutaka YOKOTA writes: Kazu> It can handle W*ndows 256 color BMP file. (Other color depth probably Kazu> won't work.) The size of the image must be 320x200 or less. Too Kazu> restricted? Yes :-) Kazu> Copy your favorite W*ndows BMP file to somewhere the boot loader can Kazu> see. I used "Powered by FreeBSD" logo by Brian Tao for testing :-) Where do you get hold of the "Powered By FreeBSD" BMP file? Anyone else have any good splash screens? Viren -- Viren R. Shah "Creeping featurism is a disease, fatal if not treated promptly" -- Don Norman in _The Design of Everyday Things_ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 05:16:57 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA01316 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 05:16:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from st-lcremean.tidalwave.net (st-lcremean.tidalwave.net [208.213.203.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA01307 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 05:16:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lee@st-lcremean.tidalwave.net) Received: (from lee@localhost) by st-lcremean.tidalwave.net (8.9.1/8.8.8) id IAA00646; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 08:16:15 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from lee) Message-ID: <19990111081614.A624@tidalwave.net> Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 08:16:14 -0500 From: Lee Cremeans To: "Kevin G. Eliuk" Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ide_pci.c Reply-To: lcremean@tidalwave.net References: <19990111002530.A1443@tidalwave.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: ; from Kevin G. Eliuk on Sun, Jan 10, 1999 at 11:49:33PM -0800 X-OS: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT X-Evil: microsoft.com Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Jan 10, 1999 at 11:49:33PM -0800, Kevin G. Eliuk wrote: > On Mon, 11 Jan 1999, Lee Cremeans almost wrote: > > > dd if=/dev/rwd0 of=/dev/null bs=1024k count=50 > > > > on a quiet (single-user) system. I haven't done any filesystem-throughput > > tests yet...this is the raw throughput through the controller. > > The patches allowed me to build the kernel, and I don't get the same > results at boot time. With the final results of your test show similar > to yours. > > Take a note of the "dmesg" output in my case and compare them to the raw > read/write. I'm not sure what to make of this really, ... other than > this motherboard and chipset really suk :-( > [snip] > wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa > wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): , 32-bit, multi-block-16 > wd0: 8010MB (16406208 sectors), 16276 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S > wdc0: unit 1 (wd1): , DMA, 32-bit, multi-block-32 ^^^^^ This drive sucks almost as much as the board. :/ Maxtor 7000-series drives are notoriously slow, and the earliest (like the 7060 and 7120, made way back in 1991-1992) had reliability problems. Enable DMA on the DiamondMax 8GB, with "flags 0xa0ffa0ff". You'll like what you see. > wd0 > > -------Sequential Output-------- ---Sequential Input-- --Random-- > -Per Char- --Block--- -Rewrite-- -Per Char- --Block--- --Seeks--- > Machine MB K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU /sec %CPU > CATHERNA 64 2698 77.0 7241 42.8 2730 19.4 2828 74.7 7980 31.2 95.2 4.4 > > wd1 > -------Sequential Output-------- ---Sequential Input-- --Random-- > -Per Char- --Block--- -Rewrite-- -Per Char- --Block--- --Seeks--- > Machine MB K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU /sec %CPU > CATHERNA 64 3338 96.5 4120 21.8 1678 13.4 3584 95.7 4485 19.2 50.5 2.1 ^^^^ ^^^^ ^^^^ ^^^ Here's the biggest thing DMA buys you -- more CPU time. Notice that it takes more CPU to move single characters than to move huge blocks -- this is because large chunks of data are what DMA shines at. -- +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Lee Cremeans -- Manassas, VA, USA (WakkyMouse on DALnet and WTnet)| | lcremean@tidalwave.net| http://st-lcremean.tidalwave.net/~lee | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 05:23:36 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA02325 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 05:23:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from st-lcremean.tidalwave.net (st-lcremean.tidalwave.net [208.213.203.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA02293 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 05:23:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lee@st-lcremean.tidalwave.net) Received: (from lee@localhost) by st-lcremean.tidalwave.net (8.9.1/8.8.8) id IAA00656; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 08:21:15 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from lee) Message-ID: <19990111082115.B624@tidalwave.net> Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 08:21:15 -0500 From: Lee Cremeans To: Bruce Evans , ijliao@dragon2.net Cc: culverk@wam.umd.edu, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ide_pci Reply-To: lcremean@tidalwave.net References: <199901110928.UAA17408@godzilla.zeta.org.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <199901110928.UAA17408@godzilla.zeta.org.au>; from Bruce Evans on Mon, Jan 11, 1999 at 08:28:31PM +1100 X-OS: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT X-Evil: microsoft.com Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jan 11, 1999 at 08:28:31PM +1100, Bruce Evans wrote: > Both of these options are bogus. DISABLE_PCI_IDE works by arranging > for buggy code in wdprobe() to not be run. It doesn't actually disable > PCI IDE, since simiilar but non-buggy code in wdgetctlr() is still run. > It disables buggy support for (Promise only?) IDE interfaces with more > than 4 devices. PCI IDE is disabled by not enabling it in the wdc flags. > ALI_V has no effect except to obfuscate the code. All right...what do we do, then, about PCI IDE chipsets that have their BMISTA_SIMPLEX flag set on boot? THis is the bug of bugs here, since it disables _all_ probing of the second channel in normal circumstances for the chipsets with SIMPLEX set. This problem happens even with the PCI IDE flags turned off in the device settings, since it tries to use the PCI IDE for probing the ports anyway... -- +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Lee Cremeans -- Manassas, VA, USA (WakkyMouse on DALnet and WTnet)| | lcremean@tidalwave.net| http://st-lcremean.tidalwave.net/~lee | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 05:38:49 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA03419 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 05:38:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (phoenix.welearn.com.au [139.130.44.81] (may be forged)) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA03413 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 05:38:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sue@phoenix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from sue@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.0) id AAA18895; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 00:38:00 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <19990112003754.45869@welearn.com.au> Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 00:37:54 +1100 From: Sue Blake To: Kris Kennaway Cc: "Kevin G. Eliuk" , Kenneth Wayne Culver , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: MSDOS filesystems being corrupted? References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88e In-Reply-To: ; from Kris Kennaway on Mon, Jan 11, 1999 at 11:00:19PM +1030 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jan 11, 1999 at 11:00:19PM +1030, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Mon, 28 Dec 1998, Kevin G. Eliuk wrote: > > > On Tue, 29 Dec 1998, Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote: > > > > > > Recently (past few months, unable to be more specific, sorry) I've noticed my > > > > msdos partitions being declared "damaged" by Nortun Utilities under win95 > > > > after I've been writing to them under freebsd (specifically, disk doctor will > > > > find lost clusters and "repair" them by removing the file.) All I usually need > > > > to do is create a few (large? The last one which got reaped was about 40MB) > > > > files on the DOS partition - I don't notice any problems accessing them under > > > > bsd. > > > > > > > > Has anyone else seen this behaviour? > > > > > > > I have seen this behavior, but only on floppies, that's wierd about your > > > norton, Scandisk doesn't give me any problems on my msdos partition, but I > > > don't put large files there. I mostly just read from that disk. > > > > After a recent botch with partition magic I was able to recover 1.5MB of > > files, reformat the partition and replace them. Other than some serious > > fragmentation as far as I know nothing was lost, actually I think the > > performance improved :) > > > > I believe this was after a Dec22 build. > > > > Could it be something in NU. > > I forgot to reply to this when I investigated further; I copied another large > file onto my msdos partition, and after rebooting into win95 Norton Utilities > complained about having found a damaged partition. Cancelling the dialog box > and running M$ ScanDisk revealed no errors - therefore something is being done > by the MSDOS filesystem code which ScanDisk is happy with, but NU is not. > > Should I open a PR on this? [Warning: newbie guesswork follows] Just in case this is related... a long while ago there were some FAT partitions that I wrote to occasionally from FreeBSD-2.1.5, OS/2, DOS5 and NT4. Yes I know DOS writes were hell with 2.1.5 but I did it anyway. The outcome sounded a bit similar. Nortons under DOS would find errors in a FAT partition that NT didn't find, and fix them. Then NT4 would say it was damaged, fix it, and after that Nortons would say it was damaged again, and so on. (I don't remember having problems with OS/2 but can't be real sure.) There seemed no way to make both of them happy, but no data was lost (though I didn't push it). I remember directory names sometimes appearing as files named with strange characters (in NT or DOS? not both) until one fix or the other... sorry it was all so long ago. I considered tracking it down with a disk editor but then the problems with FreeBSD writing to FAT disappeared when I stopped running Nortons and NT :-) I'm not sure where to place the blame for the old or the new behaviour, but it sounds possible that some long-standing Nortons/Windows quibble could be having an unknown effect which would hold some of the answers. FreeBSD could have been trolling rather than making the final blow. -- Regards, -*Sue*- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 06:50:15 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA11494 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 06:50:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from crocus.gamma.ru (crocus.gamma.ru [194.186.254.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA11486 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 06:50:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ivt@crocus.gamma.ru) Received: (from ivt@localhost) by crocus.gamma.ru (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA19406 for current@freebsd.org; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 17:49:37 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from ivt@gamma.ru) Message-Id: <199901111449.RAA19406@crocus.gamma.ru> Subject: ccd problem (3.0-REL ?) To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 17:49:37 +0300 (MSK) From: "Igor Timkin" Organization: Gamma Ltd., Moscow, Russia X-Class: Fast X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I am use ccd for news server from 2.1.5 whithout any problems. But today I got unexpected problem on server which run 3.0-RELEASE :( /etc/ccd.config: ccd0 1024 0 /dev/da0d /dev/da1d disklabel ccd0: # /dev/rccd0c: type: CCD disk: ccd label: default label flags: bytes/sector: 512 sectors/track: 2048 tracks/cylinder: 1 sectors/cylinder: 2048 cylinders: 1568 sectors/unit: 3212800 rpm: 7200 interleave: 1 trackskew: 0 cylinderskew: 0 headswitch: 0 # milliseconds track-to-track seek: 0 # milliseconds drivedata: 0 3 partitions: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] c: 3212802 0 4.2BSD 1024 8192 16 # (Cyl. 0 - 1568*) disklabel da0: # /dev/rda0c: type: SCSI disk: da0s1 label: flags: bytes/sector: 512 sectors/track: 63 tracks/cylinder: 255 sectors/cylinder: 16065 cylinders: 263 sectors/unit: 4241097 rpm: 7200 interleave: 1 trackskew: 0 cylinderskew: 0 headswitch: 0 # milliseconds track-to-track seek: 0 # milliseconds drivedata: 0 8 partitions: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] a: 128520 1606500 4.2BSD 1024 8192 16 # (Cyl. 100 - 107) b: 1606500 1735020 swap # (Cyl. 108 - 207) c: 4241097 0 unused 0 0 # (Cyl. 0 - 263*) d: 1606500 0 4.2BSD 0 0 0 # (Cyl. 100 - 99) [...] disklabel da1: # /dev/rda1c: type: SCSI disk: da1s1 label: flags: bytes/sector: 512 sectors/track: 63 tracks/cylinder: 255 sectors/cylinder: 16065 cylinders: 263 sectors/unit: 4241097 rpm: 7200 interleave: 1 trackskew: 0 cylinderskew: 0 headswitch: 0 # milliseconds track-to-track seek: 0 # milliseconds drivedata: 0 8 partitions: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] b: 1606500 1606500 swap # (Cyl. 100 - 199) c: 4241097 0 unused 0 0 # (Cyl. 0 - 263*) d: 1606500 0 4.2BSD 0 0 0 # (Cyl. 100 - 99) dd if=/dev/rccd0c of=/dev/null bs=1m count=1568 -- O.K. When I type dd if=/dev/rccd0c of=/dev/null bs=1m or dd if=/dev/rccd0c of=/dev/null bs=1m skip=1568 count=1 then system is locked (dd wait ``physstr''). ccd0c have ~1568.75 1M blocks. dd if=/dev/rda0d of=/dev/null bs=1m and dd if=/dev/rd10d of=/dev/null bs=1m is O.K. Is this a bag in ccd driver ? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 07:25:14 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA17548 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 07:25:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (fallout.campusview.indiana.edu [149.159.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA17539 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 07:25:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jfieber@fallout.campusview.indiana.edu) Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA20829; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 10:24:25 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 10:24:25 -0500 (EST) From: John Fieber To: Kazutaka YOKOTA cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: new console driver and LKM/KLD In-Reply-To: <199901111010.TAA02643@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 11 Jan 1999, Kazutaka YOKOTA wrote: > >> The pseudo-device splash implements necessary interface between the > >> console driver and KLD splash/saver modules; it's not a screen saver > >> itself. > >> > > > >Is the pseudo-device splash needed for the savers "blank" and "green"? > > Yes. Just one observation...it seems that a "saver" or "ssaver" would be a much more suitable name for the pseudo-device than "splash". I see the name "splash" and I have no idea what it might be; "saver" I have some good guesses for given the context. Subtle terminology differences like than make the difference between a user guessing right and a user having to dig through documentation and grumbling about how cryptic Unix is. -john To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 07:34:27 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA18957 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 07:34:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (fallout.campusview.indiana.edu [149.159.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA18952 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 07:34:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jfieber@fallout.campusview.indiana.edu) Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA20860; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 10:31:52 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 10:31:52 -0500 (EST) From: John Fieber To: Dom Mitchell cc: Amancio Hasty , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: New Pkg System (Re: State of the union, 1999. ) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 11 Jan 1999, Dom Mitchell wrote: > Amancio Hasty writes: > > Has anyone thought of using XML , for instance, CDF - Channel Distribution > > Format, for describing packages? > > It sounds a lovely idea for describing the metadata of packages, > IMHO. Definitely prefererrable to the overloaded lines of text that > we have now. > > However, you would have to bring in a fair amount of XML related > software into the tree. XML parsers (unlike proper SGML parsers) can be extremely lightweight, particularly if only limited validation is needed. There are a couple good lightweight XML parsers available now. I have thought many times about moving port metadata into XML (COMMENT, PKG, PLIST, not to mention a variety of things currently in the Makefile.) but I have no time to experiment and I hadn't really thought about packages. -john To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 07:40:54 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA20011 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 07:40:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bright.fx.genx.net (bright.fx.genx.net [206.64.4.154]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA20006 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 07:40:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bright@hotjobs.com) Received: from localhost (bright@localhost) by bright.fx.genx.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA85586; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 10:42:19 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bright@hotjobs.com) X-Authentication-Warning: bright.fx.genx.net: bright owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 10:42:19 -0500 (EST) From: Alfred Perlstein X-Sender: bright@bright.fx.genx.net To: Andrzej Bialecki cc: Mike Smith , John Hay , dfr@nlsystems.com, jkh@zippy.cdrom.com, jwd@unx.sas.com, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Boot.flp doesn't In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 11 Jan 1999, Andrzej Bialecki wrote: > On Mon, 11 Jan 1999, Mike Smith wrote: > > > > > * add: > > > > options NO_LKM > > > > options NO_SWAPPING > > > > options NO_F00F_HACK > > > > > > What about removing NFS on the boot.flp also? > > > > The server code is already removed; you could put the nfs_mod.ko file > > on a second floppy though. > > Wait a moment. If we really want to go this way, why don't put the whole > bunch of modules on a second floppy, and cut down the kernel size by half? Or better yet, a cgi that makes and caches boot floppies on the fly: pick your base kernel: 1) GENERIC 2) DPT 3) ... ? check modules: ( ) NFS (allow NFS install) ( ) ppp (allow ppp install) ( ) ... ? :) some dependancies would need to be constructed (make sure ppp is installed with ppp.kld) yeah i know it'll prolly have to use a vn device, but it could be done, maybe with "write_mfs_inkernel" Alfred Perlstein - Programmer, HotJobs Inc. - www.hotjobs.com -- There are operating systems, and then there's FreeBSD. -- http://www.freebsd.org/ 3.0-current > Andrzej Bialecki > > -------------------- ++-------++ ------------------------------------- > ||PicoBSD|| FreeBSD in your pocket? Go and see: > Research & Academic |+-------+| "Small & Embedded FreeBSD" > Network in Poland | |TT~~~| | http://www.freebsd.org/~picobsd/ > -------------------- ~-+==---+-+ ------------------------------------- > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 08:01:23 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA22360 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 08:01:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from TomQNX.tomqnx.com (cpu2745.adsl.bellglobal.com [207.236.55.214]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA22347 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 08:01:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom@tomqnx.com) Received: by TomQNX.tomqnx.com (Smail3.2 #1) id m0zzjle-000I0NC; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 11:00:38 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: From: tom@tomqnx.com (Tom Torrance at home) Subject: CAM SA Problem To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 11:00:37 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=ELM916070437-11740-0_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --ELM916070437-11740-0_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sometime within the past 2-3 weeks something went into the CAM code that prevents ANY tape access. It used to work with warning messages at open and close. This is using an ASUS 875 controller to access an HP-T4000s drive. This drive uses a density setting of 0x45 with fixed blocks of 512 (compressed output). The attachment is dmesg with 'camcontrol debug -c 0:6' for 'mt status'. The system is current as of this AM. Please help/advise me! Thank you in advance!! Regards, Tom --ELM916070437-11740-0_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=dmesg Content-Description: SCSI debug of 'mt status' command. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Copyright (c) 1992-1999 FreeBSD Inc. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT #38: Mon Jan 11 10:35:06 EST 1999 tom@darkstar.tomqnx.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/DARKSTAR Calibrating clock(s) ... TSC clock: 200453223 Hz, i8254 clock: 1193175 Hz CLK_USE_I8254_CALIBRATION not specified - using default frequency Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz Timecounter "TSC" frequency 200453223 Hz CPU: Pentium/P55C (200.45-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x544 Stepping=4 Features=0x8001bf real memory = 67108864 (65536K bytes) Physical memory chunk(s): 0x00001000 - 0x0009efff, 647168 bytes (158 pages) 0x002af000 - 0x03ff5fff, 64253952 bytes (15687 pages) config> pnp 1 0 enable os port0 0x220 port1 0x300 port2 0x388 irq0 10 drq0 3 drq1 5 config> pnp 1 1 enable os port0 0x200 config> pnp 1 2 enable os port0 0x620 port1 0xa20 port2 0xe20 config> config> quit avail memory = 62480384 (61016K bytes) Found BIOS32 Service Directory header at 0xf00f9a20 Entry = 0xf04e0 (0xf00f04e0) Rev = 0 Len = 1 PCI BIOS entry at 0x510 DMI header at 0xf00f52a0 Version 2.0 Table at 0xf52ba, 33 entries, 1044 bytes Other BIOS signatures found: ACPI: 00000000 $PnP: 000fcf10 Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xf029e000. Preloaded userconfig_script "/boot/pnp.config" at 0xf029e09c. pci_open(1): mode 1 addr port (0x0cf8) is 0x8000005c pci_open(1a): mode1res=0x80000000 (0x80000000) pci_cfgcheck: device 0 [class=060000] [hdr=00] is there (id=71008086) Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: found-> vendor=0x8086, dev=0x7100, revid=0x01 class=06-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 chip0: rev 0x01 on pci0.0.0 found-> vendor=0x8086, dev=0x7110, revid=0x01 class=06-01-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=1 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 chip1: rev 0x01 on pci0.1.0 found-> vendor=0x8086, dev=0x7111, revid=0x01 class=01-01-80, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 map[0]: type 4, range 32, base 0000e000, size 4 ide_pci0: rev 0x01 on pci0.1.1 intel_piix_status: primary master/slave sample = 3, master/slave recovery = 1 intel_piix_status: primary master fastDMAonly disabled, pre/post enabled, intel_piix_status: IORDY sampling enabled, intel_piix_status: fast PIO enabled intel_piix_status: primary master/slave sample = 3, master/slave recovery = 1 intel_piix_status: primary slave fastDMAonly disabled, pre/post disabled, intel_piix_status: IORDY sampling disabled, intel_piix_status: fast PIO disabled ide_pci: busmaster 0 status: 24 from port: 0000e002 ide_pci: ide0:0 has been configured for DMA by BIOS intel_piix_status: secondary master/slave sample = 5, master/slave recovery = 4 intel_piix_status: secondary master fastDMAonly disabled, pre/post disabled, intel_piix_status: IORDY sampling disabled, intel_piix_status: fast PIO disabled intel_piix_status: secondary master/slave sample = 5, master/slave recovery = 4 intel_piix_status: secondary slave fastDMAonly disabled, pre/post disabled, intel_piix_status: IORDY sampling disabled, intel_piix_status: fast PIO disabled ide_pci: busmaster 1 status: 04 from port: 0000e00a found-> vendor=0x8086, dev=0x7112, revid=0x01 class=0c-03-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 intpin=d, irq=3 map[0]: type 4, range 32, base 0000d800, size 5 found-> vendor=0x8086, dev=0x7113, revid=0x01 class=06-80-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 chip2: rev 0x01 on pci0.1.3 found-> vendor=0x1000, dev=0x000f, revid=0x03 class=01-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 intpin=a, irq=9 map[0]: type 4, range 32, base 0000d400, size 8 map[1]: type 1, range 32, base e7000000, size 8 map[2]: type 1, range 32, base e6800000, size 12 ncr0: rev 0x03 int a irq 9 on pci0.10.0 ncr0: minsync=12, maxsync=137, maxoffs=16, 128 dwords burst, large dma fifo ncr0: single-ended, open drain IRQ driver, using on-chip SRAM found-> vendor=0x5333, dev=0x8a01, revid=0x01 class=03-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 intpin=a, irq=11 map[0]: type 1, range 32, base e0000000, size 26 vga0: rev 0x01 int a irq 11 on pci0.11.0 Probing for PnP devices: Trying Read_Port at 203 Trying Read_Port at 243 PnP: CSN 1 COMP_DEVICE_ID = 0x2fb0d041 CSN 1 Vendor ID: CTL00c1 [0xc1008c0e] Serial 0x1641e094 Comp ID: PNPb02f [0x2fb0d041] PnP: override config for CSN 1 LDN 0 vend_id 0xc1008c0e port 0x0220 0x0300 0x0388 0x0000 irq 10:0 drq 3:5 en 1 PnP: override config for CSN 1 LDN 1 vend_id 0xc1008c0e port 0x0200 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 irq 0:0 drq 4:4 en 1 PnP: override config for CSN 1 LDN 2 vend_id 0xc1008c0e port 0x0620 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 irq 0:0 drq 4:4 en 1 Called nullpnp_probe with tag 0x00000001, type 0xc1008c0e Called nullpnp_probe with tag 0x00000001, type 0x2fb0d041 Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 on isa sc0: fb0 kbd0 sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> atkbdc0 at 0x60-0x6f on motherboard atkbd0 irq 1 on isa atkbd: the current kbd controller command byte 0047 atkbd: keyboard ID 0x41ab (2) kbdc: RESET_KBD return code:00fa kbdc: RESET_KBD status:00aa kbd0: atkbd0, AT 101/102 (2), config:0x10000, flags:0x3d0000 psm0: current command byte:0047 kbdc: TEST_AUX_PORT status:0000 kbdc: RESET_AUX return code:00fa kbdc: RESET_AUX status:00aa kbdc: RESET_AUX ID:0000 psm: status 00 02 64 psm: status b1 03 c8 psm: status b1 03 c8 psm: status b1 03 c8 psm: status 00 00 3c psm: data 08 00 00 psm: data 08 00 00 psm: status 00 02 64 psm0 irq 12 on isa psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0, 3 buttons psm0: config:00000000, flags:00000000, packet size:3 psm0: syncmask:c0, syncbits:00 sio0: irq maps: 0x1 0x11 0x1 0x1 sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa sio0: type 16550A lpt0 at 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa lpt0: Interrupt-driven port lp0: TCP/IP capable interface bpf: lp0 attached fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): wd0: 4110MB (8418816 sectors), 14848 cyls, 9 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wd0: ATA INQUIRE valid = 0007, dmamword = 0007, apio = 0003, udma = 0407 wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa wdc1: unit 0 (atapi): , removable, intr, iordy acd0: drive speed 689KB/sec, 256KB cache acd0: supported read types: CD-DA acd0: Audio: play, 255 volume levels acd0: Mechanism: ejectable tray acd0: Medium: CD-ROM 120mm audio disc loaded, unlocked 1 3C5x9 board(s) on ISA found at 0x210 ep0 at 0x210-0x21f irq 5 on isa ep0: aui/bnc[*BNC*] address 00:60:8c:62:a5:65 bpf: ep0 attached vga0 at 0x3b0-0x3df maddr 0xa0000 msize 131072 on isa fb0: vga0, vga, type:VGA (5), flags:0x7007f fb0: port:0x3b0-0x3df, crtc:0x3d4, mem:0xa0000 0x20000 fb0: init mode:24, bios mode:3, current mode:24 fb0: window:0xf00b8000 size:32k gran:32k, buf:0x0 size:0k VGA parameters upon power-up 50 18 10 00 00 00 03 00 02 67 5f 4f 50 82 55 81 bf 1f 00 4f 0e 0f 00 00 07 80 9c 8e 8f 28 1f 96 b9 a3 ff 00 01 02 03 04 05 14 07 38 39 3a 3b 3c 3d 3e 3f 0c 00 0f 08 00 00 00 00 00 10 0e 00 ff VGA parameters in BIOS for mode 24 50 18 10 00 10 00 03 00 02 67 5f 4f 50 82 55 81 bf 1f 00 4f 0d 0e 00 00 00 00 9c 8e 8f 28 1f 96 b9 a3 ff 00 01 02 03 04 05 14 07 38 39 3a 3b 3c 3d 3e 3f 0c 00 0f 08 00 00 00 00 00 10 0e 00 ff EGA/VGA parameters to be used for mode 24 50 18 10 00 10 00 03 00 02 67 5f 4f 50 82 55 81 bf 1f 00 4f 0d 0e 00 00 00 00 9c 8e 8f 28 1f 96 b9 a3 ff 00 01 02 03 04 05 14 07 38 39 3a 3b 3c 3d 3e 3f 0c 00 0f 08 00 00 00 00 00 10 0e 00 ff npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface i586_bzero() bandwidth = 175284837 bytes/sec bzero() bandwidth = 88409512 bytes/sec joy0 at 0x201 on isa joy0: joystick imasks: bio c008c040, tty c00710b2, net c00710b2 BIOS Geometries: 0:00000000 0..0=1 cylinders, 0..0=1 heads, 1..0=0 sectors 1:00000000 0..0=1 cylinders, 0..0=1 heads, 1..0=0 sectors 2:00000000 0..0=1 cylinders, 0..0=1 heads, 1..0=0 sectors 3:00000000 0..0=1 cylinders, 0..0=1 heads, 1..0=0 sectors 4:00000000 0..0=1 cylinders, 0..0=1 heads, 1..0=0 sectors 5:00000000 0..0=1 cylinders, 0..0=1 heads, 1..0=0 sectors 6:00000000 0..0=1 cylinders, 0..0=1 heads, 1..0=0 sectors 7:00000000 0..0=1 cylinders, 0..0=1 heads, 1..0=0 sectors 0 accounted for Device configuration finished. Intel Pentium detected, installing workaround for F00F bug bpf: tun0 attached bpf: sl0 attached bpf: ppp0 attached new masks: bio c008c040, tty c00710b2, net c00710b2 bpf: lo0 attached Linux-ELF exec handler installed Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle ncr0: restart (scsi reset). (probe5:ncr0:0:5:0): INQUIRY. CDB: 12 1 80 0 ff 0 (probe5:ncr0:0:5:0): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:24,0 (probe5:ncr0:0:5:0): Invalid field in CDB sks:c0,1 (probe6:ncr0:0:6:0): INQUIRY. CDB: 12 1 80 0 ff 0 (probe6:ncr0:0:6:0): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:24,0 (probe6:ncr0:0:6:0): Invalid field in CDB sa0 at ncr0 bus 0 target 6 lun 0 sa0: Removable Sequential Access SCSI-2 device sa0: 3.300MB/s transfers pass0 at ncr0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 pass0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device pass0: Serial Number JKA5580002KB3M pass0: 20.0MB/s transfers (20.0MHz, offset 15), Tagged Queueing Enabled pass1 at ncr0 bus 0 target 5 lun 0 pass1: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-2 device pass1: 3.300MB/s transfers pass2 at ncr0 bus 0 target 6 lun 0 pass2: Removable Sequential Access SCSI-2 device pass2: 3.300MB/s transfers da0 at ncr0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: Serial Number JKA5580002KB3M da0: 20.0MB/s transfers (20.0MHz, offset 15), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 4340MB (8888924 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 553C) cd0 at ncr0 bus 0 target 5 lun 0 cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-2 device cd0: 3.300MB/s transfers cd0: cd present [176780 x 2048 byte records] Considering MFS root f/s. No MFS image available as root f/s. Considering FFS root f/s. changing root device to da0s2a da0s1: type 0x6, start 63, end = 1025891, size 1025829 : OK da0s2: type 0xa5, start 1025892, end = 8885267, size 7859376 : OK wd0s1: type 0xb, start 63, end = 6152894, size 6152832 : OK wd0s2: type 0x82, start 6152895, end = 8353799, size 2200905 : OK ffs_mountfs: superblock updated for soft updates OSS/FreeBSD loading, address = f08ddd58 (xpt0:ncr0:0:6:X): debugging flags now 8 (sa0:ncr0:0:6:0): RESERVE(06). CDB: 16 0 0 0 0 0 (sa0:ncr0:0:6:0): TEST UNIT READY. CDB: 0 0 0 0 0 0 (sa0:ncr0:0:6:0): READ BLOCK LIMITS. CDB: 5 0 0 0 0 0 (sa0:ncr0:0:6:0): MODE SENSE(06). CDB: 1a 0 f 0 1c 0 (sa0:ncr0:0:6:0): MODE SENSE(06). CDB: 1a 0 f 0 1c 0 (sa0:ncr0:0:6:0): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:24,0 (sa0:ncr0:0:6:0): Invalid field in CDB (sa0:ncr0:0:6:0): MODE SENSE(06). CDB: 1a 0 0 0 c 0 (sa0:ncr0:0:6:0): MODE SENSE(06). CDB: 1a 0 0 0 c 0 (sa0:ncr0:0:6:0): MODE SELECT(06). CDB: 15 0 0 0 c 0 (sa0:ncr0:0:6:0): MODE SELECT(06). CDB: 15 0 0 0 c 0 (sa0:ncr0:0:6:0): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:26,0 (sa0:ncr0:0:6:0): Invalid field in parameter list (sa0:ncr0:0:6:0): MODE SELECT(06). CDB: 15 0 0 0 c 0 (sa0:ncr0:0:6:0): unable to set variable blocksize --ELM916070437-11740-0_-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 08:17:19 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA24618 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 08:17:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from vanessa.eliuk.org (pme199.sunshine.net [209.17.178.199]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA24613 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 08:17:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kevin_eliuk@sunshine.net) Received: from localhost (cagey@localhost) by vanessa.eliuk.org (8.9.1/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA03896; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 08:15:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cagey@vanessa.eliuk.org) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 08:14:44 -0800 (PST) From: "Kevin G. Eliuk" Reply-To: "Kevin G. Eliuk" To: Sue Blake cc: Kris Kennaway , Kenneth Wayne Culver , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: MSDOS filesystems being corrupted? In-Reply-To: <19990112003754.45869@welearn.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 12 Jan 1999, Sue Blake wrote: > On Mon, Jan 11, 1999 at 11:00:19PM +1030, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > > > I forgot to reply to this when I investigated further; I copied another large > > file onto my msdos partition, and after rebooting into win95 Norton Utilities > > complained about having found a damaged partition. Cancelling the dialog box > > and running M$ ScanDisk revealed no errors - therefore something is being done > > by the MSDOS filesystem code which ScanDisk is happy with, but NU is not. > > > > Should I open a PR on this? To whom ;-) > [Warning: newbie guesswork follows] > > considered tracking it down with a disk editor but then the problems > with FreeBSD writing to FAT disappeared when I stopped running Nortons > and NT :-) I really think this is the best solution :) > I'm not sure where to place the blame for the old or the new behaviour, > but it sounds possible that some long-standing Nortons/Windows quibble > could be having an unknown effect which would hold some of the answers. > FreeBSD could have been trolling rather than making the final blow. I have had my doubts about NU since the first time that I used the software, that's only a personal opinion though. From my point of view it would seem that NU has a flaw. Regards, Kevin G. Eliuk Discover Rock Solid, Discover FreeBSD | http://www.FreeBSD.Org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 08:36:32 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA26533 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 08:36:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA26527 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 08:36:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from des@flood.ping.uio.no) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA64967; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 17:35:33 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from des) To: Kazutaka YOKOTA Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Splash screen for 3.0-CURRENT! References: <199901110348.MAA17998@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 11 Jan 1999 17:35:32 +0100 In-Reply-To: Kazutaka YOKOTA's message of "Mon, 11 Jan 1999 12:48:31 +0900" Message-ID: Lines: 12 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kazutaka YOKOTA writes: > A splash screen module has been added to 3.0-CURRENT. > [...] > (Is anyone interested in enhancing this, or writing new modules to > load other image file formats?) Sure. Can't be much harder than writing a handful of screensavers :) But I'll need to familiarize myself with the new console code first. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 08:37:08 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA26745 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 08:37:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA26734 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 08:37:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from des@flood.ping.uio.no) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA64972; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 17:36:16 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from des) To: "Matthew D. Fuller" Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: rwhod patch References: <199901040159.TAA23631@mortis.futuresouth.com> <199901040200.SAA29570@freefall.freebsd.org> <19990110220932.B24234@futuresouth.com> From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 11 Jan 1999 17:36:15 +0100 In-Reply-To: "Matthew D. Fuller"'s message of "Sun, 10 Jan 1999 22:09:32 -0600" Message-ID: Lines: 13 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Matthew D. Fuller" writes: > I submitted a PR (bin/9301) about a week ago, which contained a patch to > implement a listen mode to rwhod. > It's a fairly trivial and noncontroversial change (I'd think; though the > status quo on widespread issues would seem to refuse that there IS such a > thing as a noncontroversial change). What are the chances of getting > this reviewed and possibly committed before the Day-O-Branching? Quite high now that I've seen this :) DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 08:39:10 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA26856 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 08:39:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA26851 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 08:39:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from des@flood.ping.uio.no) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA64989; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 17:38:33 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from des) To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Cc: "Matthew D. Fuller" , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: rwhod patch References: <199901040159.TAA23631@mortis.futuresouth.com> <199901040200.SAA29570@freefall.freebsd.org> <19990110220932.B24234@futuresouth.com> From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 11 Jan 1999 17:38:31 +0100 In-Reply-To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav's message of "11 Jan 1999 17:36:15 +0100" Message-ID: Lines: 13 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dag-Erling Smorgrav writes: > "Matthew D. Fuller" writes: > > It's a fairly trivial and noncontroversial change (I'd think; though the > > status quo on widespread issues would seem to refuse that there IS such a > > thing as a noncontroversial change). What are the chances of getting > > this reviewed and possibly committed before the Day-O-Branching? > Quite high now that I've seen this :) Ah, Steve Price beat me to it. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 08:43:56 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA27264 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 08:43:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from germanium.xtalwind.net (germanium.xtalwind.net [205.160.242.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA27258 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 08:43:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jack@germanium.xtalwind.net) Received: from localhost (jack@localhost) by germanium.xtalwind.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA01037; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 11:41:13 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 11:41:13 -0500 (EST) From: jack To: Mike Smith cc: Andrzej Bialecki , John Hay , dfr@nlsystems.com, jkh@zippy.cdrom.com, jwd@unx.sas.com, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Boot.flp doesn't In-Reply-To: <199901111059.CAA90448@dingo.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 11 Jan 1999, Mike Smith wrote: > That was the plan. NFS is a good start. Ideally, we should leave a > little room on the first floppy so that people can customise it to > avoid needing two floppies... Has anyone looked into the sizes needed for single floppies for different install methods? Maybe one that would handle CD/ppp/parallel/slip but no network card or NFS support and one with just CD, network card and NFS support. I know that this could be a PITA getting newbies to use the correct one but we would still be a one disk install. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jack O'Neill Systems Administrator / Systems Analyst jack@germanium.xtalwind.net Crystal Wind Communications, Inc. Finger jack@germanium.xtalwind.net for my PGP key. PGP Key fingerprint = F6 C4 E6 D4 2F 15 A7 67 FD 09 E9 3C 5F CC EB CD enriched, vcard, HTML messages > /dev/null -------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 08:51:48 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA28336 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 08:51:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from TomQNX.tomqnx.com (cpu2745.adsl.bellglobal.com [207.236.55.214]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA28329 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 08:51:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@tomqnx.com) Received: by TomQNX.tomqnx.com (Smail3.2 #1) id m0zzkYb-000I0NC; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 11:51:13 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: From: freebsd@tomqnx.com (Tom Torrance) Subject: Re: CAM SA Problem In-Reply-To: from Tom Torrance at home at "Jan 11, 1999 11: 0:37 am" To: tom@tomqnx.com (Tom Torrance at home) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 11:51:13 -0500 (EST) Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I forgot to mention - the device does NOT get reset during the boot (no tape positioning takes place). 'camcontrol reset 0:6:0' results in: camcontrol: CAMIOCOMMAND ioctl failed: Invalid argument The messages I used to get at open/close time under CAM were related to the inability of the drive to support locking/unlocking of the tape cartridge in the drive. Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 09:20:14 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA01193 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 09:20:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ayukawa.aus.org (ayukawa.aus.org [199.166.246.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA01183 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 09:20:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lh@aus.org) Received: from bsd.aus.org (lh@bsd.aus.org [199.166.246.189]) by ayukawa.aus.org (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA04567 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 12:00:40 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199901111700.MAA04567@ayukawa.aus.org> X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3-beta-042198 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199901110928.UAA17408@godzilla.zeta.org.au> Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 12:19:27 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: lh@aus.org From: Luke To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ide_pci Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Both of these options are bogus. DISABLE_PCI_IDE works by arranging > for buggy code in wdprobe() to not be run. It doesn't actually disable > PCI IDE, since simiilar but non-buggy code in wdgetctlr() is still run. > It disables buggy support for (Promise only?) IDE interfaces with more > than 4 devices. PCI IDE is disabled by not enabling it in the wdc flags. > ALI_V has no effect except to obfuscate the code. > > Bruce It sounds like if DISABLE_PCI_IDE should be named something else, especially if it's going to be put in LINT. If its an option that fixes something in certain PCI IDE controllers, it sure sounds misleading. --- E-Mail: Luke Sent by XFMail ---------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 09:43:01 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA03536 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 09:43:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.196.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA03531 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 09:42:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (IDENT:YPWE1znNVoB3Z8MnEU0Ts0YdthVdL4zL@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA04470; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 02:42:10 +0900 (JST) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.7.6+2.6Wbeta7/3.4W/zodiac-May96) with ESMTP id CAA18136; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 02:44:36 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199901111744.CAA18136@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp Subject: Re: Splash screen for 3.0-CURRENT! In-reply-to: Your message of "11 Jan 1999 17:35:32 +0100." References: <199901110348.MAA17998@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 02:44:36 +0900 From: Kazutaka YOKOTA Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >> A splash screen module has been added to 3.0-CURRENT. >> [...] >> (Is anyone interested in enhancing this, or writing new modules to >> load other image file formats?) > >Sure. Can't be much harder than writing a handful of screensavers :) >But I'll need to familiarize myself with the new console code first. Please do! I have a test code to load a BMP file larger than 320x200 using the VESA mode. Other than that, I have no immediate plan to enhance the splash_bmp module. Kazu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 09:46:29 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA03991 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 09:46:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA03985 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 09:46:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from des@flood.ping.uio.no) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA65132; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 18:45:40 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from des) To: Kazutaka YOKOTA Cc: Dag-Erling Smorgrav , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Splash screen for 3.0-CURRENT! References: <199901110348.MAA17998@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> <199901111744.CAA18136@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 11 Jan 1999 18:45:39 +0100 In-Reply-To: Kazutaka YOKOTA's message of "Tue, 12 Jan 1999 02:44:36 +0900" Message-ID: Lines: 20 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kazutaka YOKOTA writes: > > > A splash screen module has been added to 3.0-CURRENT. > > > [...] > > > (Is anyone interested in enhancing this, or writing new modules to > > > load other image file formats?) > > Sure. Can't be much harder than writing a handful of screensavers :) > > But I'll need to familiarize myself with the new console code first. > Please do! Any time frame on this? > I have a test code to load a BMP file larger than 320x200 using the > VESA mode. Other than that, I have no immediate plan to enhance the > splash_bmp module. Could you either commit it or send me the patches? DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 09:51:20 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA04478 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 09:51:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from csla.csl.sri.com (csla.csl.sri.com [192.12.33.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA04469 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 09:51:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gilham@csl.sri.com) Received: from csl.sri.com (snapdragon.csl.sri.com [130.107.18.20]) by csla.csl.sri.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA01879; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 09:50:08 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199901111750.JAA01879@csla.csl.sri.com> To: Kazutaka YOKOTA cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: console driver change committed In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 11 Jan 1999 12:39:24 +0900." <199901110339.MAA17650@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 09:50:07 -0800 From: Fred Gilham Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kazu Yokota wrote: >Ok, syscons changes are committed. As I warned you before, you need >to update your kernel configuration file. > >If you are using syscons, > >controller atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD tty >device atkbd0 at isa? tty irq 1 >#device psm0 at isa? tty irq 12 >device vga0 at isa? port ? conflicts >device sc0 at isa? tty > >pseudo-device splash I didn't configure any screen saver but I still had to put pseudo-device splash in my kernel config file. Otherwise I got the following error: loading kernel syscons.o: In function `scioctl': syscons.o(.text+0x1ac1): undefined reference to `wait_scrn_saver_stop' syscons.o: In function `sccnupdate': syscons.o(.text+0x2932): undefined reference to `stop_scrn_saver' syscons.o: In function `scrn_timer': syscons.o(.text+0x2b39): undefined reference to `stop_scrn_saver' syscons.o: In function `sc_clean_up': syscons.o(.text+0x495a): undefined reference to `wait_scrn_saver_stop' *** Error code 1 1 error -Fred Gilham gilham@csl.sri.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 09:54:15 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA04712 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 09:54:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from apollo.backplane.com (apollo.backplane.com [209.157.86.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA04706 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 09:54:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA96433; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 09:53:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 09:53:33 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <199901111753.JAA96433@apollo.backplane.com> To: Konstantin Chuguev Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: rpc.statd eats 257M on 3.0-CURRENT Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :Hi. : :I'm not sure, is it a bug or a feature? :.. :.................... : 147 root 2 0 257M 256K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% rpc.statd : ^^^ !!! ^^^^^ RSS is reasonable It's because rpc.statd does this: /* File now open. mmap() it, with a generous size to allow for */ /* later growth, where we will extend the file but not re-map it. */ status_info = (FileLayout *) mmap(NULL, 0x10000000, PROT_READ | PROT_WRITE, MAP_SHARED, status_fd, 0); It's stupid code, but the process doesn't actually eat any resources so I wouldn't worry about it. It is an eyesore, though :-( -Matt :What do kernel gurus think about this? : :-- : Konstantin V. Chuguev. System administrator of Southern Matthew Dillon Engineering, HiWay Technologies, Inc. & BEST Internet Communications & God knows what else. (Please include original email in any response) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 10:16:38 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA06806 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 10:16:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from feral-gw.feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA06801 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 10:16:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from localhost (mjacob@localhost) by feral-gw.feral.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA18841; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 10:15:57 -0800 Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 10:15:57 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob X-Sender: mjacob@feral-gw Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Tom Torrance cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CAM SA Problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG freebsd-scsi is a more appropriate alias. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 10:23:09 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA07753 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 10:23:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from apollo.backplane.com (apollo.backplane.com [209.157.86.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA07725 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 10:23:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA96566; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 10:22:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 10:22:33 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <199901111822.KAA96566@apollo.backplane.com> To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: /usr/obj/elf, /usr/obj/aout, /usr/obj - breaks make all vs make buildworld, and other things. Time to make elf the default ? Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG If I do a 'make buildworld', the object tree is created in /usr/obj/elf rather then /usr/obj. If I then want to make the world again, but without cleaning anything, 'make' alone will not work. Instead, 'make -DNOCLEAN -DNOTOOLS' must be used. The difference appears to be in /usr/src/Makefile.inc0. It does not set up MK_ENV for certain backend targets. # # A generic rule for the backend targets. # ${BKTGTS} : @cd ${.CURDIR}; ${MAKE} ${.TARGET} Is there any reason why we can't have it setup the MK_ENV ? As in the below ? # # A generic rule for the backend targets. # ${BKTGTS} : @cd ${.CURDIR}; ${MK_ENV} ${MAKE} ${.TARGET} Now, I realize that if you cd somewhere deep into /usr/src and type make, it will not use the correct obj tree either. So the question is, is it time to make elf the default ( i.e. /usr/obj ) and just special case a.out ( i.e. /usr/obj/a.out ) ???? My personal opinion is: yes, ELF should now be the default without any OBJFORMAT munging. It would be relatively simple to have the top level make check whether the user's machine is ELF or not, and to only allow the user to ( at this point ) convert his machine from a.out to elf before the user is allowed to compile random source. -Matt Matthew Dillon Engineering, HiWay Technologies, Inc. & BEST Internet Communications & God knows what else. (Please include original email in any response) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 10:47:57 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA10759 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 10:47:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA10753 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 10:47:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from julian@whistle.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by alpo.whistle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA17774; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 09:20:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from s204m82.isp.whistle.com(207.76.204.82) via SMTP by alpo.whistle.com, id smtpdT17655; Mon Jan 11 17:20:19 1999 Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 08:19:57 -0800 (PST) From: Julian Elischer X-Sender: julian@s204m82.isp.whistle.com To: "D. Rock" cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: boot single with new loader? In-Reply-To: <199901091436.PAA27357@wurzelausix.cs.uni-sb.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG well theoretically being in read-only mode should be enough, as teh transition to read-write should only READ the superblock again and pick up the new flags.. That was not happenning at one stage, but I think that's what Luoqi's changes are about.. at one stage the superblock was getting written to a RO FS which is definitly wrong.. (and wiped out the Softupdates flags on the disk) julian On Sat, 9 Jan 1999, D. Rock wrote: > > You can't enable soft updates from single user; the disk has to be completely > > unmounted. Either boot from a floppy, and run it on the hard disk, or do > > what I did (being to lazy to make a floppy), and boot the machine; run > > tunefs on the live disk, type sync 5 times, and smack the power switch. > > Did I miss something. I always enabled soft updates on my root fs by booting > into single user mode, > tunefs -n enable /dev/r.... > Press reset. > > Daniel > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 11:01:38 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA12500 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 11:01:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cheddar.netmonger.net (cheddar.netmonger.net [209.54.21.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA12490 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 11:01:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris@cheddar.netmonger.net) Received: (from chris@localhost) by cheddar.netmonger.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA01158; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 14:01:02 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19990111140102.A25698@netmonger.net> Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 14:01:02 -0500 From: Christopher Masto To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: New Pkg System (Re: State of the union, 1999. ) References: <199901110416.UAA13553@rah.star-gate.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Dom Mitchell on Mon, Jan 11, 1999 at 07:49:35AM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jan 11, 1999 at 07:49:35AM +0000, Dom Mitchell wrote: > Amancio Hasty writes: > > Has anyone thought of using XML , for instance, CDF - Channel Distribution > > Format, for describing packages? > > It sounds a lovely idea for describing the metadata of packages, > IMHO. Definitely prefererrable to the overloaded lines of text that > we have now. > > However, you would have to bring in a fair amount of XML related > software into the tree. Given that Unix is traditionally a > text-processing system, I personally think that this would be a step > forward. I'd love to have XML stuff in the base system that I can > use. easily. But, to bring that much code in *just* for the packages > mechanism is probably overkill. You'd need to start using it > elsewhere to really pay off. But XML is small. What's a "fair amount"? I would think the basics are covered by a (doesn't have to be validating) XML parser library that the package system can link with. I seem to have something like that on my system (required for GNOME): -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 72658 Jan 8 16:29 /usr/local/lib/libxml.a -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 73154 Jan 8 16:29 /usr/local/lib/libxml.so.0 I'm sure there are even smaller implementations available. -- Christopher Masto Director of Operations NetMonger Communications chris@netmonger.net info@netmonger.net http://www.netmonger.net "Good tools allow users to do stupid things." -- Clay Shirky To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 11:09:36 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA13480 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 11:09:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cheddar.netmonger.net (cheddar.netmonger.net [209.54.21.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA13468 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 11:09:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris@cheddar.netmonger.net) Received: (from chris@localhost) by cheddar.netmonger.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA01923; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 14:08:58 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19990111140857.B25698@netmonger.net> Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 14:08:57 -0500 From: Christopher Masto To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Sudden mouse death? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is the second time I've had this happen, so maybe it's not a complete fluke. I walked away from my computer for a while, and when I came back, my mouse didn't work. I'm running X using sysmouse and a Mouse Systems PS/2 optical mouse, and it was just dead.. no movement, no buttons. Last time this happened (about two weeks ago), I killed moused and restarted it and it worked again - sort of.. about half of the button presses were being dropped, and movement was very sluggish, so I rebooted. This time, moused wouldn't restart: moused: Unable to open /dev/psm0: Input/output error I tried again: moused: Unable to open /dev/psm0: Device not configured I'm using "moused -p /dev/psm0 -t auto". The following has appeared in dmesg output: psm0: failed to disable the device (psmclose). psm0: failed to get status (psmclose). psm0: failed to enable the device (doopen). I will be doing a make world tonight, so maybe this problem won't happen in the new architecture. -- Christopher Masto Director of Operations NetMonger Communications chris@netmonger.net info@netmonger.net http://www.netmonger.net "Good tools allow users to do stupid things." -- Clay Shirky To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 11:30:24 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA16427 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 11:30:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from spook.navinet.net (spook.navinet.net [206.25.93.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA16420 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 11:30:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from forrie@forrie.com) Received: from forrie (black.navinet.net [206.25.93.86]) by spook.navinet.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id OAA54365 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 14:31:47 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990111142728.009db210@206.25.93.69> X-Sender: forrie@206.25.93.69 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 14:28:35 -0500 To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG From: Forrest Aldrich Subject: New errors in building kernel 3.0-current Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I know about the splash screen option, and I added the recent syscons mods that were announced. However, I'm getting this error when compiling the kernel (just cvsupped): loading kernel syscons.o: In function `scioctl': syscons.o(.text+0x1a51): undefined reference to `wait_scrn_saver_stop' syscons.o: In function `sccnupdate': syscons.o(.text+0x2846): undefined reference to `stop_scrn_saver' syscons.o: In function `scrn_timer': syscons.o(.text+0x2a4c): undefined reference to `stop_scrn_saver' syscons.o: In function `sc_clean_up': syscons.o(.text+0x4814): undefined reference to `wait_scrn_saver_stop' *** Error code 1 Am I missing an option in the kernel config? Forrest To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 12:10:00 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA22304 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 12:10:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ianai.BlackSun.org (Ianai.blacksun.org [168.100.186.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA22275 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 12:09:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tugrul@ianai.BlackSun.org) Received: from localhost (tugrul@localhost) by ianai.BlackSun.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA04969 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 15:01:55 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from tugrul@ianai.BlackSun.org) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 15:01:55 -0500 (EST) From: Tugrul To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Booting FreeBSD beyond the 1024th cylinder Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Does anyone have a solid HOWTO or FAQ on how to accomplish this feat of magic? :-) I need both Windows and FreeBSD on my machine, but my IBM Deskstar 10 has 19650 cylinders, horribly limiting my booting options. The Award's bios' LBA tricks don't seem to have any affect. For Linux I just cp a kernel to /dev/fd0 and double check its rdev or use loadlin. Stuff in src/sys/i386/boot looks like it might help, but not with ELF kernels. Correct me if I am mistaken. /boot/loader + fbsdboot.exe just hangs... perhaps something extra I need to tell /boot/loader about its surroundings? Tugrul Galatali To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 12:18:06 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA23525 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 12:18:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bright.fx.genx.net (bright.fx.genx.net [206.64.4.154]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA23467 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 12:17:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bright@hotjobs.com) Received: from localhost (bright@localhost) by bright.fx.genx.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA86269; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 15:22:10 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bright@hotjobs.com) X-Authentication-Warning: bright.fx.genx.net: bright owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 15:22:10 -0500 (EST) From: Alfred Perlstein X-Sender: bright@bright.fx.genx.net To: Tugrul cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Booting FreeBSD beyond the 1024th cylinder In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 11 Jan 1999, Tugrul wrote: > Does anyone have a solid HOWTO or FAQ on how to accomplish this > feat of magic? :-) I need both Windows and FreeBSD on my machine, but my > IBM Deskstar 10 has 19650 cylinders, horribly limiting my booting options. > The Award's bios' LBA tricks don't seem to have any affect. > For Linux I just cp a kernel to /dev/fd0 and double check its > rdev or use loadlin. Stuff in src/sys/i386/boot looks like it might help, > but not with ELF kernels. Correct me if I am mistaken. > /boot/loader + fbsdboot.exe just hangs... perhaps something extra > I need to tell /boot/loader about its surroundings? have you tried OS-BSbeta? have you tried the newer boot blocks? i think you can do what you were able to do in linux with the freebsd newer blocks. -Alfred > > Tugrul Galatali > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 12:18:58 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA23828 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 12:18:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from aurora.sol.net (aurora.sol.net [206.55.65.76]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA23823 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 12:18:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jgreco@aurora.sol.net) Received: (from jgreco@localhost) by aurora.sol.net (8.8.8/8.8.8/SNNS-1.02) id OAA07371 for current@freebsd.org; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 14:18:13 -0600 (CST) From: Joe Greco Message-Id: <199901112018.OAA07371@aurora.sol.net> Subject: Lots of arpresolve: can't allocate llinfo for rt To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 14:18:13 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm getting lots of arpresolve: can't allocate llinfo for 169.207.30.65rt (with addr being the default gw) on one of my boxes. de0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet 169.207.30.XXX netmask 0xffffffc0 broadcast 169.207.30.127 inet 169.207.30.202 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 169.207.30.202 ether 00:00:92:a7:1a:5c media: 100baseTX status: active arp -a | wc is 14. netstat -rn | wc is 21. The relevant parts of netstat -rn are: Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire default 169.207.30.65 UGSc 30929 15435 de0 [...] 169.207.30.64/26 link#1 UC 0 0 de0 169.207.30.65 0:e0:29:10:e5:e8 UHLW 34 0 de0 1139 169.207.30.XXX 0:0:92:a7:1a:5c UHLW 7 592 lo0 169.207.30.127 ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff UHLWb 1 1 de0 169.207.30.202 0:0:92:a7:1a:5c UHLW 0 1 lo0 => 169.207.30.202/32 link#1 UC 0 0 de0 The box in question will begin spitting out long sequences of the "llinfo" complaint on console, and other odd IP problems accompany it. Deleting the alias for 30.202 ("don't ask") doesn't appear to eliminate the problem. This has been an ongoing problem for over a year, but it is suddenly much worse. What now? ... Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joe Greco - Systems Administrator jgreco@ns.sol.net Solaria Public Access UNIX - Milwaukee, WI 414/342-4847 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 12:20:45 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA24098 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 12:20:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cheddar.netmonger.net (cheddar.netmonger.net [209.54.21.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA24093 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 12:20:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris@cheddar.netmonger.net) Received: (from chris@localhost) by cheddar.netmonger.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA08585; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 15:20:03 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19990111152003.A7881@netmonger.net> Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 15:20:03 -0500 From: Christopher Masto To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sudden mouse death? References: <19990111140857.B25698@netmonger.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <19990111140857.B25698@netmonger.net>; from Christopher Masto on Mon, Jan 11, 1999 at 02:08:57PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jan 11, 1999 at 02:08:57PM -0500, Christopher Masto wrote: > [...] I walked away from my computer for a while, and when > I came back, my mouse didn't work. [...] I should point out that when I rebooted, it said "psm0: not found".. a hard power cycle restored it. This is probably a hardware glitch. -- Christopher Masto Director of Operations NetMonger Communications chris@netmonger.net info@netmonger.net http://www.netmonger.net "Good tools allow users to do stupid things." -- Clay Shirky To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 12:36:37 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA26041 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 12:36:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bantu.cl.msu.edu (bantu.cl.msu.edu [35.8.3.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA26036 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 12:36:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dervish@bantu.cl.msu.edu) Received: (from dervish@localhost) by bantu.cl.msu.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA13484 for current@freebsd.org; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 15:34:46 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from dervish) Message-ID: <19990111153445.D10918@bantu.cl.msu.edu> Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 15:34:46 -0500 From: bush doctor To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ide_pci.c question References: <19990111200620122.AAA230@mail.scsn.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <19990111200620122.AAA230@mail.scsn.net>; from Mail Administrator on Mon, Jan 11, 1999 at 03:06:20PM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hey all, i've been folowing the thread about ide_pci.c, but my question is different. ever since i updated to 3.0, i've been getting the following diagnostic when booting wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 flags 0xe0ffe0ff on isa ide_pci: generic_dmainit 01f0:0: warning, IDE controller timing not set ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): , DMA, 32-bit, multi-block-16, sleep-hack wd0: 3093MB (6335280 sectors), 6704 cyls, 15 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S i've glanced at the code, but i'm wondering if i need to change my flag settings. if more info is needed i can post my dmesg. thanxs ... #;^) -- So ya want ta here da roots? Dem that feels it knows it ... bush doctor To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 12:40:51 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA26779 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 12:40:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from alpha.xerox.com (alpha.Xerox.COM [13.1.64.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA26771 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 12:40:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fenner@parc.xerox.com) Received: from crevenia.parc.xerox.com ([13.2.116.11]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <54254(2)>; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 12:40:14 PST Received: from localhost by crevenia.parc.xerox.com with SMTP id <177534>; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 12:40:00 -0800 To: Joe Greco cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Lots of arpresolve: can't allocate llinfo for rt In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 11 Jan 99 12:18:13 PST." <199901112018.OAA07371@aurora.sol.net> Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 12:39:51 PST From: Bill Fenner Message-Id: <99Jan11.124000pst.177534@crevenia.parc.xerox.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Try this patch. It should either change the error messages to include an "arplookup" message which might give more info, or fix the problem. Bill Index: if_ether.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/netinet/if_ether.c,v retrieving revision 1.50 diff -u -r1.50 if_ether.c --- if_ether.c 1999/01/10 17:40:10 1.50 +++ if_ether.c 1999/01/11 20:37:29 @@ -340,7 +340,7 @@ } if (rt) la = (struct llinfo_arp *)rt->rt_llinfo; - else { + if (la == 0) { la = arplookup(SIN(dst)->sin_addr.s_addr, 1, 0); if (la) rt = la->la_rt; To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 12:42:59 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA26967 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 12:42:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ix.netcom.com (sil-wa17-08.ix.netcom.com [207.93.156.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA26959 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 12:42:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tomdean@ix.netcom.com) Received: (from tomdean@localhost) by ix.netcom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) id MAA00311; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 12:42:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tomdean) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 12:42:23 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199901112042.MAA00311@ix.netcom.com> From: Thomas Dean To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvsup/make world/build, boot kernel Success Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Another success for updating. >>> elf make world started on Sat Jan 9 19:54:00 PST 1999 ... >>> elf make world completed on Sun Jan 10 01:03:05 PST 1999 bild and boot elf kernel OK too. # file /kernel /kernel: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, \ version 1 (FreeBSD), dynamically linked, not stripped thanks, core team tomdean To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 12:58:49 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA29296 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 12:58:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from janus.syracuse.net (janus.syracuse.net [205.232.47.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA29289 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 12:58:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from green@unixhelp.org) Received: from localhost (green@localhost) by janus.syracuse.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA24341; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 15:56:45 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 15:56:44 -0500 (EST) From: Brian Feldman X-Sender: green@janus.syracuse.net To: "Daniel C. Sobral" cc: Andrzej Bialecki , Mike Smith , John Hay , dfr@nlsystems.com, jkh@zippy.cdrom.com, jwd@unx.sas.com, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Boot.flp doesn't In-Reply-To: <3699F17D.3D89A4A0@newsguy.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 11 Jan 1999, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: > Gee... that's a lot of cc's... > > Andrzej Bialecki wrote: > > > > > > What about removing NFS on the boot.flp also? > > > > > > The server code is already removed; you could put the nfs_mod.ko file > > > on a second floppy though. > > > > Wait a moment. If we really want to go this way, why don't put the whole > > bunch of modules on a second floppy, and cut down the kernel size by half? > > Now, if my memory doesn't fail me, there are some people who do NFS > installs on a sizable number of machines (emphasis on size) who have > previously manifested the intention to kill anyone who makes them > boot two disks instead of one. > > If we had to choose, I'd say try to keep it one disk as far as > network installations are concerned. Why don't we just make more floppies? bootcd.flp, bootnet.flp, bootnfs.flp, bootks.flp.... The floppy generation process could be pretty easily changed. More floppies is pretty modular, anyway, without the need for using actual KLDs :) > > Other people may be able to boot from cd most of the time. Hey, > maybe we can even get some .ko's from the cd... :-) > > -- > Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) > dcs@newsguy.com > > If you sell your soul to the Devil and all you get is an MCSE from > it, you haven't gotten market rate. > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > Brian Feldman _ __ ___ ___ ___ green@unixhelp.org _ __ ___ | _ ) __| \ http://www.freebsd.org/ _ __ ___ ____ | _ \__ \ |) | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! _ __ ___ ____ _____ |___/___/___/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 13:10:10 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA00650 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 13:10:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from po4.wam.umd.edu (po4.wam.umd.edu [128.8.10.166]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA00643 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 13:10:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from culverk@wam.umd.edu) Received: from rac9.wam.umd.edu ((IDENT root)@rac9.wam.umd.edu [128.8.10.149]) by po4.wam.umd.edu (8.9.0.Beta6/8.9.0.Beta6) with ESMTP id QAA23879; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 16:10:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from rac9.wam.umd.edu ((IDENT sendmail)@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rac9.wam.umd.edu (8.9.0.Beta6/8.9.0.Beta6) with SMTP id QAA13637; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 16:09:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by rac9.wam.umd.edu (8.9.0.Beta6/8.9.0.Beta6) with SMTP id QAA13632; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 16:09:18 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: rac9.wam.umd.edu: culverk owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 16:09:18 -0500 (EST) From: Kenneth Wayne Culver To: bush doctor cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ide_pci.c question In-Reply-To: <19990111153445.D10918@bantu.cl.msu.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG try using 0xa0ffa0ff > wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 flags 0xe0ffe0ff on isa > ide_pci: generic_dmainit 01f0:0: warning, IDE controller timing not set > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): , DMA, 32-bit, multi-block-16, sleep-hack > wd0: 3093MB (6335280 sectors), 6704 cyls, 15 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S > > i've glanced at the code, but i'm wondering if i need to change my flag settings. > if more info is needed i can post my dmesg. > > thanxs ... #;^) > > -- > So ya want ta here da roots? > Dem that feels it knows it ... > bush doctor > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 13:13:37 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA01064 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 13:13:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from st-lcremean.tidalwave.net (st-lcremean.tidalwave.net [208.213.203.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA01058 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 13:13:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lee@st-lcremean.tidalwave.net) Received: (from lee@localhost) by st-lcremean.tidalwave.net (8.9.1/8.8.8) id QAA63522; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 16:12:51 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from lee) Message-ID: <19990111161251.A63501@tidalwave.net> Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 16:12:51 -0500 From: Lee Cremeans To: bush doctor , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ide_pci Reply-To: lcremean@tidalwave.net References: <19990111145758.C10918@bantu.cl.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <19990111145758.C10918@bantu.cl.msu.edu>; from bush doctor on Mon, Jan 11, 1999 at 02:57:58PM -0500 X-OS: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT X-Evil: microsoft.com Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jan 11, 1999 at 02:57:58PM -0500, bush doctor wrote: > hey all, > i've been folowing the thread about ide_pci.c, but my question is different. > ever since i updated to 3.0, i've been getting the following diagnostic when booting > > wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 flags 0xe0ffe0ff on isa > ide_pci: generic_dmainit 01f0:0: warning, IDE controller timing not set > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This just means that ide_pci can't set the timing by itelf, seeing as it's a "generic" chipset, and each chipset has its own weird ways of setting up the timings. It's usually nothing to worry about -- the BIOS usually sets things up for a decent mode (usually PIO mode 4, which uses almost the same timings as multiword DMA mode 2), and if your disks aren't misbehaving, you don't need to do anything. PS: Could you do pciconf -l and send me the results? I have this feeling your board has an Acer chipset (or, at least, it's not Intel, Promise, or VIA). -- +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Lee Cremeans -- Manassas, VA, USA (WakkyMouse on DALnet and WTnet)| | lcremean@tidalwave.net| http://st-lcremean.tidalwave.net/~lee | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 13:16:00 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA01519 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 13:16:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from soleil.uvsq.fr (soleil.uvsq.fr [193.51.24.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA01488 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 13:15:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from son@prism.uvsq.fr) Received: from prism.uvsq.fr (rtc104.reseau.uvsq.fr [193.51.24.20]) by soleil.uvsq.fr (8.9.1/jtpda-5.3.1) with ESMTP id WAA29912 ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 22:15:14 +0100 (MET) Received: (from son@localhost) by prism.uvsq.fr (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA01660; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 21:29:46 GMT (envelope-from son) Message-ID: <19990111212946.24018@breizh.prism.uvsq.fr> Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 21:29:46 +0000 From: Nicolas Souchu To: Mike Zanker Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: No vpo man page References: <4.1.19990110174206.00940870@aire.open.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.81e In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990110174206.00940870@aire.open.ac.uk>; from Mike Zanker on Sun, Jan 10, 1999 at 05:49:54PM +0000 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD breizh 3.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Jan 10, 1999 at 05:49:54PM +0000, Mike Zanker wrote: > >Having completed a successful update from 2.2.8-STABLE to 3.0-CURRENT (ELF) >I decided to get my parallel port Zip drive working. It was then that I >noticed that there was no vpo man page - the source is there as >/usr/src/share/man/man4/vpo.4 but it has been omitted from the Makefile in >that directory so never gets gzipped and installed. Would someone like to >fix it, please? Ok. Thanks. > >One more thing - it fails when I try and mount a Zip disk with a DOS >filesystem on it. Does the driver only support a FreeBSD filesystem? > >Thanks in advance, > >Mike >-- >Mike Zanker, Academic Computing Service, The Open University, UK >Tel: +44 1908 652726, Fax: +44 1908 652193 > >Views expressed are personal and do not necessarily reflect University opinion. > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > -- nsouch@teaser.fr / nsouch@freebsd.org FreeBSD - Turning PCs into workstations - http://www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 13:16:10 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA01587 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 13:16:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from soleil.uvsq.fr (soleil.uvsq.fr [193.51.24.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA01511 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 13:15:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from son@prism.uvsq.fr) Received: from prism.uvsq.fr (rtc104.reseau.uvsq.fr [193.51.24.20]) by soleil.uvsq.fr (8.9.1/jtpda-5.3.1) with ESMTP id WAA29919 ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 22:15:19 +0100 (MET) Received: (from son@localhost) by prism.uvsq.fr (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA01673; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 21:33:56 GMT (envelope-from son) Message-ID: <19990111213356.11579@breizh.prism.uvsq.fr> Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 21:33:56 +0000 From: Nicolas Souchu To: Stephen Palmer Cc: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, dfr@nlsystems.com Subject: Re: [Re: [Re: Request fo help with Zip Drive on vpo0 in -current]] References: <19990110223923.27342.qmail@www0p.netaddress.usa.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.81e In-Reply-To: <19990110223923.27342.qmail@www0p.netaddress.usa.net>; from Stephen Palmer on Sun, Jan 10, 1999 at 10:39:23PM +0000 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD breizh 3.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Jan 10, 1999 at 10:39:23PM +0000, Stephen Palmer wrote: > >Success! > da0 is now detected on my system as long as I give >flags 0x1 or 0x4 to ppc0. This forces the chipset >to "Generic" rather than "SMC". Not setting the flags >causes the chipset to be detected correctly, but da0 >not to be detected. Thanks for the good work! I can >send verbose dmesg output to anyone interested in squashing >the remaining inconvieniances. I guess the last committed patch solved your problem, not the 0x4 flags. Or it means that your chipset does run anymore properly in ECP+EPP mode and this is odd. Yes, send me your logs with/without the flags set. > >Stephen L. Palmer >slpalmer@netscape.net > >> And I apologize, I forgot to commit options anyway :( >> >> -- >> nsouch@teaser.fr / nsouch@freebsd.org >> FreeBSD - Turning PCs into workstations - http://www.FreeBSD.org > > >--- | >Stephen L. Palmer | Sprint Paranet >slpalmer@netscape.net \|/ slpalmer@sprintparanet.com > "There are thousands of intelligent species in the > Universe, and they all own cats." -Unknown > >____________________________________________________________________ >More than just email--Get your FREE Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/netcenter/mail > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > -- nsouch@teaser.fr / nsouch@freebsd.org FreeBSD - Turning PCs into workstations - http://www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 13:16:14 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA01601 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 13:16:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from soleil.uvsq.fr (soleil.uvsq.fr [193.51.24.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA01533 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 13:16:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from son@prism.uvsq.fr) Received: from prism.uvsq.fr (rtc104.reseau.uvsq.fr [193.51.24.20]) by soleil.uvsq.fr (8.9.1/jtpda-5.3.1) with ESMTP id WAA29926 ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 22:15:24 +0100 (MET) Received: (from son@localhost) by prism.uvsq.fr (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA00891; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 20:45:14 GMT (envelope-from son) Message-ID: <19990111204514.59206@breizh.prism.uvsq.fr> Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 20:45:14 +0000 From: Nicolas Souchu To: Alexander Leidinger Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: nlpt & polling mode didn't work References: <19990109203041.00416@breizh.prism.uvsq.fr> <199901101751.SAA00559@Vodix.CS.Uni-SB.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.81e In-Reply-To: <199901101751.SAA00559@Vodix.CS.Uni-SB.de>; from Alexander Leidinger on Sun, Jan 10, 1999 at 06:51:00PM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD breizh 3.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Jan 10, 1999 at 06:51:00PM +0100, Alexander Leidinger wrote: >> >> Timing then. nlpt is slower than lpt because of indirection calls. So >> something must have speedup the machine because nothing changed in nlpt since >> it was properly working. > >??? Just a >make world >and a >make XFree-3.3.3 See the handbook for recompiling your kernel. > >>>> You may add printfs to the /sys/dev/ppbus/nlpt.c to check where it fails. >>> >>>To nlpt_pushbytes()? >>>What am I looking for? >> >> Yes and nlpt_write(). You may add something like this for ppb_wxx() calls: >> >> u_char cc; >> do { >> cc = STROBE_or_what_else; >> ppb_wctr(..., cc); >> >> } while (ppb_rctr(...) != cc); >> >> to be sure ppb_wxxx() are correctly done. >> And you may add delays here and there to slow down the driver. > >What about >options NLPT_DEBUG >in the kernel, does this show something interesting too? >I had it turned on on my machine, but I didn't know to interprete the >messages. NLPT_DEBUG is supposed to print debug info needed when the driver was written. See /sys/dev/ppbus/nlpt.c for the meaning of outputs. You'll have to had _your_ printfs or change the 3rd party card. Parallel port cards are not expensive today.. > >Bye, >Alexander. > >-- > "Darth Vader sleeps with a Teddywookie." > Fortune cookie >http://netchild.home.pages.de/ A.Leidinger @ wurzelausix.cs.uni-sb.de > > -- nsouch@teaser.fr / nsouch@freebsd.org FreeBSD - Turning PCs into workstations - http://www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 13:16:47 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA01675 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 13:16:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from st-lcremean.tidalwave.net (st-lcremean.tidalwave.net [208.213.203.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA01657 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 13:16:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lee@st-lcremean.tidalwave.net) Received: (from lee@localhost) by st-lcremean.tidalwave.net (8.9.1/8.8.8) id QAA63544; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 16:15:57 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from lee) Message-ID: <19990111161557.B63501@tidalwave.net> Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 16:15:57 -0500 From: Lee Cremeans To: Kenneth Wayne Culver Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ide_pci.c question Reply-To: lcremean@tidalwave.net References: <19990111153445.D10918@bantu.cl.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: ; from Kenneth Wayne Culver on Mon, Jan 11, 1999 at 04:09:18PM -0500 X-OS: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT X-Evil: microsoft.com Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jan 11, 1999 at 04:09:18PM -0500, Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote: > > try using 0xa0ffa0ff DMA's already on; that message is a (rather unnecessary) warning saying that ide_pci can't change the default timings by itself (since it obviously doesn't know how). I should change the wording on this, and hide it behind bootverbose...any objections? -- +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Lee Cremeans -- Manassas, VA, USA (WakkyMouse on DALnet and WTnet)| | lcremean@tidalwave.net| http://st-lcremean.tidalwave.net/~lee | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 13:21:41 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA02327 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 13:21:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA02322 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 13:21:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA57625; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 13:20:46 -0800 (PST) To: "Carlos C. Tapang" cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: State of the union, 1999. In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 10 Jan 1999 20:21:51 PST." <007c01be3d19$ea0315a0$0d787880@apex.tapang> Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 13:20:45 -0800 Message-ID: <57621.916089645@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Are all companies that use FreeBSD making regular donations? If not, would > it be a good idea to have an ongoing donation solicitation program, one of > the activities of which would be to send regular mailings (phone call, > email, etc.) to all companies that use FreeBSD? Not regular ones, but something which didn't involve telephone solicitation (which I HATE) would be something I would be willing to consider. It's bad in the extreme and I need to fix it, but Walnut Creek CDROM has actually had a product code called "BSDDONATE" (which you can order like any other product at orders@cdrom.com or www.cdrom.com) so that people can use credit cards and such to make donations for awhile now, and this fact is simply not noted anywhere on the web pages. Whoops. :( > Yes, I myself did not know that Yahoo uses a farm of FreeBSD servers until I > accidentally stumbled into it. This is a big testimonial that needs to be > shouted from the top of mountains. To be fair on this one, there's a great newsletter article on it and we do shout that one from the mountain tops (probably hand out 400 copies of that newsletter alone at trade shows). > Since I am using FreeBSD in Generic Windows, am I allowed to use "Powered by > FreeBSD" in my website (www.genericwindows.com)? Absolutely. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 13:31:17 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA03667 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 13:31:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (osmium.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA03660 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 13:31:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wilko@yedi.iaf.nl) Received: by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl with UUCP id AA29367 (5.67b/IDA-1.5); Mon, 11 Jan 1999 22:10:39 +0100 Received: (from wilko@localhost) by yedi.iaf.nl (8.8.8/8.6.12) id UAA01363; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 20:49:55 +0100 (CET) From: Wilko Bulte Message-Id: <199901111949.UAA01363@yedi.iaf.nl> Subject: Re: State of the union, 1999. In-Reply-To: from Brian Tiemann at "Jan 10, 99 05:55:12 pm" To: btman@ugcs.caltech.edu (Brian Tiemann) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 20:49:55 +0100 (CET) Cc: culverk@wam.umd.edu, brian@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU, aa8vb@pagesz.net, current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Organisation: Private FreeBSD site - Arnhem, The Netherlands X-Pgp-Info: PGP public key at 'finger wilko@freefall.freebsd.org' X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As Brian Tiemann wrote... > > > On Sun, 10 Jan 1999, Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote: > > > > Unfortunately, I can't draw for crap, my GIMP skills are lacking, and > > > I haven't found any pictures of Chuck facing forward, looking powerful and > > > bold, with his trident planted in the ground beside him. :( If anyone > > > else wants to design and market such a poster, however, I'll buy several. > > > > > Same here, :-) > > Hmm... maybe something along these lines? > > http://www.lionking.org/~btman/chuck.jpg As Jordan is working with an artist for a more diverse set of artwork, my guess is he might welcome _sensible_ suggestions (i.e. not involving penguins & pitchforks ;-). Wilko _ ______________________________________________________________________ | / o / / _ Bulte email: wilko@yedi.iaf.nl |/|/ / / /( (_) Arnhem, The Netherlands WWW : http://www.tcja.nl ______________________________________________ Powered by FreeBSD __________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 13:52:04 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA06030 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 13:52:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ianai.BlackSun.org (Ianai.blacksun.org [168.100.186.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA05997 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 13:51:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tugrul@ianai.BlackSun.org) Received: from localhost (tugrul@localhost) by ianai.BlackSun.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA05248; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 16:37:21 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from tugrul@ianai.BlackSun.org) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 16:37:21 -0500 (EST) From: Tugrul Reply-To: Tugrul To: Alfred Perlstein cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Booting FreeBSD beyond the 1024th cylinder In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 11 Jan 1999, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > have you tried OS-BSbeta? > "No Operating System" for either FreeBSD or Linux beyond the 1024th cylinder. > have you tried the newer boot blocks? i think you can do what you were > able to do in linux with the freebsd newer blocks. > None of the boot blocks understand what a elf kernel is afaik. Any tips on loading /boot/loader from a floppy, which then loads the kernel off wd0s2a? Or is /boot/loader still limited? I don't think both will fit on a floppy... lately my kernels have gotten smaller but they might grow in size again. The booting tools in general need a major update for elf, I wish I knew how to help :/ > -Alfred > Tugrul Galatali To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 14:04:00 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA07614 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 14:04:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from axl.noc.iafrica.com (axl.noc.iafrica.com [196.31.1.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA07510 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 14:03:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sheldonh@axl.noc.iafrica.com) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.noc.iafrica.com) by axl.noc.iafrica.com with local-esmtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 0zzpPk-0000KG-00; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 00:02:24 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: Tugrul cc: Alfred Perlstein , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Booting FreeBSD beyond the 1024th cylinder In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 11 Jan 1999 16:37:21 EST." Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 00:02:24 +0200 Message-ID: <1255.916092144@axl.noc.iafrica.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 11 Jan 1999 16:37:21 EST, Tugrul wrote: > None of the boot blocks understand what a elf kernel is afaik. [...] > The booting tools in general need a major update for elf, I wish I > knew how to help :/ You could help by not posting false information to the mailing lists. :) The new bootloader knows about both ELF and AOUT kernels. Just have a look at recent archives for this mailing list for verification. Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 14:04:22 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA07947 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 14:04:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bright.fx.genx.net (bright.fx.genx.net [206.64.4.154]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA07810 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 14:04:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bright@hotjobs.com) Received: from localhost (bright@localhost) by bright.fx.genx.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA86397; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 17:08:36 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bright@hotjobs.com) X-Authentication-Warning: bright.fx.genx.net: bright owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 17:08:36 -0500 (EST) From: Alfred Perlstein X-Sender: bright@bright.fx.genx.net To: Tugrul cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Booting FreeBSD beyond the 1024th cylinder In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 11 Jan 1999, Tugrul wrote: > > > On Mon, 11 Jan 1999, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > > > have you tried OS-BSbeta? > > > > "No Operating System" for either FreeBSD or Linux beyond the > 1024th cylinder. > > > have you tried the newer boot blocks? i think you can do what you were > > able to do in linux with the freebsd newer blocks. > > > > None of the boot blocks understand what a elf kernel is afaik. Any > tips on loading /boot/loader from a floppy, which then loads the kernel > off wd0s2a? Or is /boot/loader still limited? I don't think both will fit > on a floppy... lately my kernels have gotten smaller but they might grow > in size again. > The booting tools in general need a major update for elf, I wish I > knew how to help :/ You need to do a search on the lists, i've seen the solution to your problem discussed before. Btw, why are you still using other systems besides FreeBSD? I can't think of a good reason... :) -Alfred To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 14:12:31 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA09146 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 14:12:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.196.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA09122 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 14:12:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (IDENT:zLHH3tQKs76M/ZCiaWaxs46vUVg/yPNu@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA04893; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 07:11:31 +0900 (JST) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.7.6+2.6Wbeta7/3.4W/zodiac-May96) with ESMTP id HAA24634; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 07:13:57 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199901112213.HAA24634@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> To: Forrest Aldrich cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp Subject: Re: New errors in building kernel 3.0-current In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 11 Jan 1999 14:28:35 EST." <4.1.19990111142728.009db210@206.25.93.69> References: <4.1.19990111142728.009db210@206.25.93.69> Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 07:13:57 +0900 From: Kazutaka YOKOTA Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >I know about the splash screen option, and I added the recent >syscons mods that were announced. However, I'm getting this >error when compiling the kernel (just cvsupped): > >loading kernel >syscons.o: In function `scioctl': >syscons.o(.text+0x1a51): undefined reference to `wait_scrn_saver_stop' >syscons.o: In function `sccnupdate': >syscons.o(.text+0x2846): undefined reference to `stop_scrn_saver' >syscons.o: In function `scrn_timer': >syscons.o(.text+0x2a4c): undefined reference to `stop_scrn_saver' >syscons.o: In function `sc_clean_up': >syscons.o(.text+0x4814): undefined reference to `wait_scrn_saver_stop' >*** Error code 1 > >Am I missing an option in the kernel config? Add pseudo-device splash to your kernel config. Kazu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 14:13:40 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA09282 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 14:13:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ianai.BlackSun.org (Ianai.blacksun.org [168.100.186.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA09276 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 14:13:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tugrul@ianai.BlackSun.org) Received: from localhost (tugrul@localhost) by ianai.BlackSun.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA05338; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 17:05:16 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from tugrul@ianai.BlackSun.org) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 17:05:16 -0500 (EST) From: Tugrul To: Sheldon Hearn cc: Alfred Perlstein , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Booting FreeBSD beyond the 1024th cylinder In-Reply-To: <1255.916092144@axl.noc.iafrica.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 12 Jan 1999, Sheldon Hearn wrote: > > > On Mon, 11 Jan 1999 16:37:21 EST, Tugrul wrote: > > > None of the boot blocks understand what a elf kernel is afaik. [...] > > The booting tools in general need a major update for elf, I wish I > > knew how to help :/ > > You could help by not posting false information to the mailing lists. :) > > The new bootloader knows about both ELF and AOUT kernels. Just have a > look at recent archives for this mailing list for verification. > afaik = I didn't declare it, just as far as I know :-) I based it on all the "Invalid Kernel" errors I get when I attempt to load it directly. I'll scan through the mailing lists again... try is quite a lot of volume :-) As for Alfred's question on why I would use anything else... I need my quota of games :-) And looking at some web sites I help maintain in other web browsers helps a bit too. Although VNC might cure the latter =] > Ciao, > Sheldon. > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 14:15:38 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA09503 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 14:15:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.196.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA09482 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 14:15:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (IDENT:47zG1Qf42MQ03o2mctVE6O1V+Pg5OLQh@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA04595; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 07:14:50 +0900 (JST) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.7.6+2.6Wbeta7/3.4W/zodiac-May96) with ESMTP id HAA24728; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 07:17:16 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199901112217.HAA24728@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> To: Fred Gilham cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp Subject: Re: HEADS UP: console driver change committed In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 11 Jan 1999 09:50:07 PST." <199901111750.JAA01879@csla.csl.sri.com> References: <199901111750.JAA01879@csla.csl.sri.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 07:17:16 +0900 From: Kazutaka YOKOTA Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>pseudo-device splash > >I didn't configure any screen saver but I still had to put > >pseudo-device splash > >in my kernel config file. > >Otherwise I got the following error: Umm, stupid mistake in syscons.c... I will fix it soon. Thank you for reporting. Kazu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 14:16:04 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA09574 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 14:16:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA09565; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 14:16:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from des@flood.ping.uio.no) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA66125; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 23:15:13 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from des) To: obrien@NUXI.com Cc: "Brian W. Buchanan" , current@FreeBSD.ORG, jkh@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: State of the union, 1999. References: <19990110191559.A7530@pagesz.net> <19990111000303.A42890@relay.nuxi.com> From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 11 Jan 1999 23:15:11 +0100 In-Reply-To: "David O'Brien"'s message of "Mon, 11 Jan 1999 00:03:03 -0800" Message-ID: Lines: 14 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "David O'Brien" writes: > Actually, Walnut Creek used to sell posters (summer 1996 time frame). I > was lucky enough to get 4 when they were selling their stock off. > > It is 23"x17" and has chuck walking out of a CDROM (just like on the > CDROM cover art) on white background. Under chuck spanning the width is > "FreeBSD" in red. At the bottom is "Turning PC's into Workstations." + > WC's contact information. Ahhhhh! I want one right now! DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 14:36:20 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA11741 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 14:36:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.196.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA11721 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 14:36:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (IDENT:wzmMs5CuqKTauy/dXXNOQUY9yEy3qp6X@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA04899; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 07:35:37 +0900 (JST) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.7.6+2.6Wbeta7/3.4W/zodiac-May96) with ESMTP id HAA25244; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 07:38:04 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199901112238.HAA25244@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> To: Christopher Masto cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp Subject: Re: Sudden mouse death? In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 11 Jan 1999 14:08:57 EST." <19990111140857.B25698@netmonger.net> References: <19990111140857.B25698@netmonger.net> Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 07:38:03 +0900 From: Kazutaka YOKOTA Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >This is the second time I've had this happen, so maybe it's not a >complete fluke. I walked away from my computer for a while, and when >I came back, my mouse didn't work. I'm running X using sysmouse and a [...] >This time, moused wouldn't restart: >moused: Unable to open /dev/psm0: Input/output error > >I tried again: >moused: Unable to open /dev/psm0: Device not configured [...] >The following has appeared in dmesg output: > >psm0: failed to disable the device (psmclose). >psm0: failed to get status (psmclose). >psm0: failed to enable the device (doopen). I rarely hear this type of errors. It sounds like hardware failure. Power to the mouse may not be supplied reliably. Any possibility that the connector or lead to the mouse may be faulty? Kazu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 14:36:31 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA11808 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 14:36:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from frmug.org (frmug-gw.frmug.org [193.56.58.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA11762 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 14:36:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from roberto@keltia.freenix.fr) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by frmug.org (8.9.1/frmug-2.3/nospam) with UUCP id XAA15442 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 23:35:46 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from roberto@keltia.freenix.fr) Received: by keltia.freenix.fr (Postfix, from userid 101) id 6EF341583; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 23:11:43 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 23:11:43 +0100 From: Ollivier Robert To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: boot single with new loader? Message-ID: <19990111231143.A83935@keltia.freenix.fr> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG References: <009c01be3b2c$92e60320$236319ac@w142844.carlson.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: <009c01be3b2c$92e60320$236319ac@w142844.carlson.com>; from Thomas T. Veldhouse on Fri, Jan 08, 1999 at 11:30:19AM -0600 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT/ELF ctm#4931 AMD-K6 MMX @ 200 MHz Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG According to Thomas T. Veldhouse: > the root slice as sync. I figured it was safer, and it wasn't that > important to me to have that particular slice on softupdates anyway. Beware of something that can be deadly for a "make installworld". When using SU, space freed by "rm" takes a bit more time to be taken into account and you can fill "/" or "/usr" up because the space recovered by "install" is not yet freed. It happened to me a few times for "/usr" and one time for "/". Having "/bin/sh" with a 0-byte size is not good for booting :-) -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! -=- roberto@keltia.freenix.fr FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 3.0-CURRENT #67: Tue Dec 29 20:24:02 CET 1998 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 14:47:05 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA12597 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 14:47:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.196.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA12581 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 14:47:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (IDENT:TIBYLBIiky8gPHGyP2jy2ZmepM1mdup1@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA04799; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 07:46:24 +0900 (JST) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.7.6+2.6Wbeta7/3.4W/zodiac-May96) with ESMTP id HAA25529; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 07:48:51 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199901112248.HAA25529@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp Subject: Re: Splash screen for 3.0-CURRENT! In-reply-to: Your message of "11 Jan 1999 18:45:39 +0100." References: <199901110348.MAA17998@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> <199901111744.CAA18136@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 07:48:50 +0900 From: Kazutaka YOKOTA Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >> > Sure. Can't be much harder than writing a handful of screensavers :) >> > But I'll need to familiarize myself with the new console code first. >> Please do! > >Any time frame on this? It would be very nice if it's done in time for 3.1-RELEASE, don't you think? >> I have a test code to load a BMP file larger than 320x200 using the >> VESA mode. Other than that, I have no immediate plan to enhance the >> splash_bmp module. > >Could you either commit it or send me the patches? I wil send you the patch later today. Kazu > >DES >-- >Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- $@2#EDOBN4(J $@")(J321-8585 $@FJLZ8)1'ET5\;TM[El(J 7-1-2 $@1'ET5\Bg3X9)3XIt5!3#%7%9%F%`9)3X2J(J Tel: 028-689-6062$@!JD>DL!K(JFAX: 028-689-6009 E-mail: yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp $@"(D.L>$HHVCO$,JQ$o$j$^$7$?!#(J ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 14:52:06 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA13335 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 14:52:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA13305 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 14:51:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from des@flood.ping.uio.no) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA66206; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 23:51:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from des) To: Kazutaka YOKOTA Cc: Dag-Erling Smorgrav , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Splash screen for 3.0-CURRENT! References: <199901110348.MAA17998@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> <199901111744.CAA18136@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> <199901112248.HAA25529@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 11 Jan 1999 23:51:13 +0100 In-Reply-To: Kazutaka YOKOTA's message of "Tue, 12 Jan 1999 07:48:50 +0900" Message-ID: Lines: 11 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kazutaka YOKOTA writes: > > Any time frame on this? > It would be very nice if it's done in time for 3.1-RELEASE, don't you > think? Yep. I was afraid you'd say "IWBNI you finished it in time for the branch" :) DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 14:52:28 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA13618 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 14:52:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from st-lcremean.tidalwave.net (host-e186.tidalwave.net [208.213.203.186] (may be forged)) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA13432 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 14:52:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lee@st-lcremean.tidalwave.net) Received: (from lee@localhost) by st-lcremean.tidalwave.net (8.9.1/8.8.8) id RAA63894 for current@freebsd.org; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 17:51:43 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from lee) Message-ID: <19990111175143.C63501@tidalwave.net> Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 17:51:43 -0500 From: Lee Cremeans To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ide_pci.c question Reply-To: lcremean@tidalwave.net References: <19990111161557.B63501@tidalwave.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: ; from Kenneth Wayne Culver on Mon, Jan 11, 1999 at 04:37:01PM -0500 X-OS: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT X-Evil: microsoft.com Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jan 11, 1999 at 04:37:01PM -0500, Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote: > Kenneth Culver > Computer Science Major at the University of Maryland, College Park. > > > On Mon, 11 Jan 1999, Lee Cremeans wrote: > > > On Mon, Jan 11, 1999 at 04:09:18PM -0500, Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote: > > > > > > try using 0xa0ffa0ff > > > > DMA's already on; that message is a (rather unnecessary) warning saying that > > ide_pci can't change the default timings by itself (since it obviously > > doesn't know how). I should change the wording on this, and hide it behind > > bootverbose...any objections? > > > No problem here, that would work for me, Have you submitted your changes > to the people that matter so that this fix can be incorporated into > -current? Well, if anyone with commit privs is listening, here's the patch: --- ide_pci.c Mon Dec 21 03:55:56 1998 +++ ide_pci.c.new Sun Jan 10 23:23:41 1999 @@ -120,6 +121,15 @@ void *wdinfo); static void +acer_status(struct ide_pci_cookie *cookie); + +static int +acer_dmainit(struct ide_pci_cookie *cookie, + struct wdparams *wp, + int (*wdcmd)(int, void *), + void *wdinfo); + +static void intel_piix_dump_drive(char *ctlr, int sitre, int is_piix4, @@ -267,8 +277,14 @@ printf("ide_pci: generic_dmainit %04x:%d: warning, IDE controller timing not set\n", cookie->iobase_wd, cookie->unit); + /* If we're here, then this controller is most likely not set + for UDMA, even if the drive may be. Make the drive wise + up. */ + + if(!wdcmd(WDDMA_MDMA2, wdinfo)) + printf("generic_dmainit: could not set multiword DMA mode!\n"); return 1; - } + } #ifdef IDE_PCI_DEBUG printf("pio_mode: %d, mwdma_mode(wp): %d, udma_mode(wp): %d\n", pio_mode(wp), mwdma_mode(wp), udma_mode(wp)); @@ -836,6 +852,68 @@ intel_piix_status }; + +static void +acer_status(struct ide_pci_cookie *cookie) { + /* XXX does not do anything right now */ +} + +static int +acer_dmainit(struct ide_pci_cookie *cookie, + struct wdparams *wp, + int(*wdcmd)(int, void *), + void *wdinfo) +{ + /* Acer Aladdin DMA setup code. UDMA looks to be sinfully easy to set + on this thing - just one register. */ + + u_long word54 = pci_conf_read(cookie->tag, 0x54); + + /* Set the default Acer FIFO settings (0x55 = 13-word depth and + slave operation mode 1) */ + + word54 |= 0x5555; + + /* Is this drive UDMA? Set it up if so... */ + if(udma_mode(wp) >= 2) { + /* This is really easy to do. Just write 0xa (enable + UDMA mode with 2T timing) into the word at the right + places. */ + word54 |= (0xA << (16 + (cookie->ctlr * 8) + (cookie->unit * 4))); + + /* Now set the drive for UDMA2. */ + if(!wdcmd(WDDMA_UDMA2, wdinfo)) { + printf("acer_dmainit: could not set UDMA2 mode on wdc%d:%d!\n", cookie->ctlr, cookie->unit); + return 0; + } + + /* Write the new config into the registers. I'm not + sure if I'm doing this in the right order. */ + + pci_conf_write(cookie->tag, 0x54, word54); + + } else if(mwdma_mode(wp) >= 2 && pio_mode(wp) >=4) { + + + /* Otherwise, we're already set for regular DMA. */ + + if(!wdcmd(WDDMA_MDMA2, wdinfo)) { + printf("acer_dmainit: could not set MWDMA2 mode on wdc%d:%d!\n", + cookie->ctlr, cookie->unit); + return 0; + } + return 1; + } +} + +static struct vendor_fns vs_acer = +{ + acer_dmainit, + acer_status +}; + + + /* Generic SFF-8038i code-- all code below here, except for PCI probes, * more or less conforms to the SFF-8038i spec as extended for PCI. * There should be no code that goes beyond that feature set below. @@ -918,6 +996,8 @@ return ("Promise Ultra/33 IDE controller"); if (type == 0x05711106) return ("VIA 82C586x (Apollo) Bus-master IDE controller"); + if (type == 0x522910b9) + return ("Acer Labs (ALi) Aladdin IV/V Bus-master IDE controller"); if (data & 0x8000) return ("PCI IDE controller (busmaster capable)"); #ifndef CMD640 @@ -980,7 +1060,10 @@ /* Promise controllers */ vp = &vs_promise; break; - + + case 0x522910b9: + vp = &vs_acer; + break; default: /* everybody else */ vp = &vs_generic; @@ -1138,9 +1221,7 @@ } } - if (bmista_1 & BMISTA_SIMPLEX || bmista_2 & BMISTA_SIMPLEX) { - printf("ide_pci: controller is simplex, no DMA on secondary channel\n"); - } else if (iobase_wd_2 != 0) { + if (iobase_wd_2 != 0) { cookie = mkcookie(iobase_wd_2, ctlridx + 1, 0, -- +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Lee Cremeans -- Manassas, VA, USA (WakkyMouse on DALnet and WTnet)| | lcremean@tidalwave.net| http://st-lcremean.tidalwave.net/~lee | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 15:01:17 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA14676 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 15:01:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from st-lcremean.tidalwave.net (host-e186.tidalwave.net [208.213.203.186] (may be forged)) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA14671 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 15:01:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lee@st-lcremean.tidalwave.net) Received: (from lee@localhost) by st-lcremean.tidalwave.net (8.9.1/8.8.8) id SAA63932 for current@freebsd.org; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 18:00:37 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from lee) Message-ID: <19990111180037.D63501@tidalwave.net> Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 18:00:37 -0500 From: Lee Cremeans To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ide_pci.c question Reply-To: lcremean@tidalwave.net References: <19990111161557.B63501@tidalwave.net> <19990111175143.C63501@tidalwave.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <19990111175143.C63501@tidalwave.net>; from Lee Cremeans on Mon, Jan 11, 1999 at 05:51:43PM -0500 X-OS: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT X-Evil: microsoft.com Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jan 11, 1999 at 05:51:43PM -0500, Lee Cremeans wrote: > Well, if anyone with commit privs is listening, here's the patch: Urg, I didn't see julian's two commits to ide_pci.c before I posted this...should I re-cvsup and make a new patch based on 1.21? -- +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Lee Cremeans -- Manassas, VA, USA (WakkyMouse on DALnet and WTnet)| | lcremean@tidalwave.net| http://st-lcremean.tidalwave.net/~lee | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 15:14:57 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA16704 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 15:14:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from alcanet.com.au (border.alcanet.com.au [203.62.196.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA16699 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 15:14:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter.jeremy@auss2.alcatel.com.au) Received: by border.alcanet.com.au id <40336>; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 10:13:30 +1100 Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 10:14:08 +1100 From: Peter Jeremy Subject: Re: Boot.flp doesn't To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Message-Id: <99Jan12.101330est.40336@border.alcanet.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 10 Jan 1999, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > it looks like the loader doesn't understand a gzipped kernel. > > Yeah, it also looks like we're going to be out of the release business > for awhile. We've hit another space crunch and I'm not yet sure > what to do about it. I'm not sure how much space we need, but since speed is not an issue [we want a kernel we can install with, not one to keep] adding '-malign-loops=0 -malign-jumps=0 -malign-functions=0' will shrink things a bit (by removing all instruction alignment padding). Additionally, -fomit-frame-pointer will save a couple of bytes per function (and there are a lot of functions in the kernel). Some of the other `-f' options should reduce code size, but I'm not sure which ones are safe in gcc 2.7.2.1. These will also come in handy when it becomes necessary to shrink boot2 those few essential bytes... Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 15:28:24 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA18220 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 15:28:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA18209 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 15:28:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA58188; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 15:26:30 -0800 (PST) To: jack cc: Mike Smith , Andrzej Bialecki , John Hay , dfr@nlsystems.com, jwd@unx.sas.com, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Boot.flp doesn't In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 11 Jan 1999 11:41:13 EST." Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 15:26:30 -0800 Message-ID: <58185.916097190@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I think the best idea proposed to date is to have a network installation floppy and an "all other media" floppy. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 15:31:51 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA18578 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 15:31:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (osmium.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA18573 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 15:31:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wilko@yedi.iaf.nl) Received: by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl with UUCP id AA03325 (5.67b/IDA-1.5); Tue, 12 Jan 1999 00:01:54 +0100 Received: (from wilko@localhost) by yedi.iaf.nl (8.8.8/8.6.12) id WAA01310; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 22:27:03 +0100 (CET) From: Wilko Bulte Message-Id: <199901112127.WAA01310@yedi.iaf.nl> Subject: Re: Boot.flp doesn't In-Reply-To: from Brian Feldman at "Jan 11, 99 03:56:44 pm" To: green@unixhelp.org (Brian Feldman) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 22:27:03 +0100 (CET) Cc: dcs@newsguy.com, abial@nask.pl, mike@smith.net.au, jhay@mikom.csir.co.za, dfr@nlsystems.com, jkh@zippy.cdrom.com, jwd@unx.sas.com, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Organisation: Private FreeBSD site - Arnhem, The Netherlands X-Pgp-Info: PGP public key at 'finger wilko@freefall.freebsd.org' X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As Brian Feldman wrote... > On Mon, 11 Jan 1999, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: > > > Gee... that's a lot of cc's... > > > > Andrzej Bialecki wrote: > > > > > > > > What about removing NFS on the boot.flp also? > > > > > > > > The server code is already removed; you could put the nfs_mod.ko file > > > > on a second floppy though. > > > > > > Wait a moment. If we really want to go this way, why don't put the whole > > > bunch of modules on a second floppy, and cut down the kernel size by half? > > > > Now, if my memory doesn't fail me, there are some people who do NFS > > installs on a sizable number of machines (emphasis on size) who have > > previously manifested the intention to kill anyone who makes them > > boot two disks instead of one. > > > > If we had to choose, I'd say try to keep it one disk as far as > > network installations are concerned. > > Why don't we just make more floppies? bootcd.flp, bootnet.flp, bootnfs.flp, > bootks.flp.... The floppy generation process could be pretty easily changed. > More floppies is pretty modular, anyway, without the need for using actual > KLDs :) This has been explored before. It is called Linux. Wilko _ ______________________________________________________________________ | / o / / _ Bulte email: wilko@yedi.iaf.nl |/|/ / / /( (_) Arnhem, The Netherlands WWW : http://www.tcja.nl ______________________________________________ Powered by FreeBSD __________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 15:35:04 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA18864 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 15:35:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from wiggum.tinet.ie (wiggum.tinet.ie [159.134.237.72]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA18821; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 15:34:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from crypt0genic@ecad.org) Received: from p204.cork1.tinet.ie ([159.134.228.204] helo=tinet.ie) by wiggum.tinet.ie with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #20) id 0zzqqW-00058w-00; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 23:34:09 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 23:30:52 -0000 (GMT) Reply-To: crypt0genic@ecad.org Organization: ECAD.ORG From: "crypt0genic of ECAD.ORG" To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Subject: Re: State of the union, 1999. Cc: jkh@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG, "Brian W. Buchanan" , obrien@NUXI.com Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 11-Jan-99 Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > "David O'Brien" writes: >> Actually, Walnut Creek used to sell posters >> (summer 1996 time frame). I >> was lucky enough to get 4 when they were >> selling their stock off. >> >> It is 23"x17" and has chuck walking out of a >> CDROM (just like on the >> CDROM cover art) on white background. Under >> chuck spanning the width is >> "FreeBSD" in red. At the bottom is "Turning >> PC's into Workstations." + >> WC's contact information. > > Ahhhhh! I want one right now! As do I! Does anyone know are there bumper stickers avalable?? A "Powered by FreeBSD" would look great on my Opel Astra : ) > > DES > -- > Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to > majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body > of the message ---------------------------------- E-Mail: crypt0genic of ECAD.ORG Date: 11-Jan-99 Time: 23:29:21 This message was sent by XFMail ---------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 15:43:38 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA19602 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 15:43:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from helios.dnttm.ru (dnttm-gw.rssi.ru [193.232.0.205]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA19595 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 15:43:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dima@tejblum.dnttm.rssi.ru) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by helios.dnttm.ru (8.9.1/8.9.1/IP-3) with UUCP id CAA00097; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 02:36:54 +0300 Received: from tejblum.dnttm.rssi.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tejblum.dnttm.rssi.ru (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA00263; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 02:36:41 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from dima@tejblum.dnttm.rssi.ru) Message-Id: <199901112336.CAA00263@tejblum.dnttm.rssi.ru> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: Kris Kennaway cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: MSDOS filesystems being corrupted? In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 11 Jan 1999 23:00:19 +1030." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 02:36:41 +0300 From: Dmitrij Tejblum Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kris Kennaway wrote: > > I forgot to reply to this when I investigated further; I copied another large > file onto my msdos partition, and after rebooting into win95 Norton Utilities > complained about having found a damaged partition. Cancelling the dialog box > and running M$ ScanDisk revealed no errors - therefore something is being done > by the MSDOS filesystem code which ScanDisk is happy with, but NU is not. > > Should I open a PR on this? Please be more specific about message that NU report. If NU complain about a directory entry, send me content of the directory before NU modified anything (use dd(1) to get the directory content). Dima To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 15:57:57 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA20767 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 15:57:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ceia.nordier.com (c2-1-dbn.dial-up.net [196.34.155.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA20759 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 15:57:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rnordier@nordier.com) Received: (from rnordier@localhost) by ceia.nordier.com (8.8.7/8.6.12) id BAA00761; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 01:56:19 +0200 (SAT) From: Robert Nordier Message-Id: <199901112356.BAA00761@ceia.nordier.com> Subject: Re: Booting FreeBSD beyond the 1024th cylinder In-Reply-To: from Tugrul at "Jan 11, 99 05:05:16 pm" To: tugrul@ianai.BlackSun.org (Tugrul) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 01:56:15 +0200 (SAT) Cc: axl@iafrica.com, bright@hotjobs.com, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Tugrul wrote: > On Tue, 12 Jan 1999, Sheldon Hearn wrote: > > On Mon, 11 Jan 1999 16:37:21 EST, Tugrul wrote: > > > > > None of the boot blocks understand what a elf kernel is afaik. [...] > > > The booting tools in general need a major update for elf, I wish I > > > knew how to help :/ > > > > You could help by not posting false information to the mailing lists. :) > > > > The new bootloader knows about both ELF and AOUT kernels. Just have a > > look at recent archives for this mailing list for verification. > > afaik = I didn't declare it, just as far as I know :-) I based it > on all the "Invalid Kernel" errors I get when I attempt to load it > directly. I'll scan through the mailing lists again... try is quite a lot > of volume :-) Booting FreeBSD beyond cylinder 1023 is not currently supported. Support, by way of the IBM/Microsoft int 0x13 extensions, was present in the new bootblocks a few months ago but was removed: too many BIOSes don't implement this stuff properly. Unless you patch the boot code youself, you must ensure that your kernel resides completely below cylinder 1024. Just sticking /boot/loader on a floppy is not going to help in the least. As regards the cylinder > 1023 issue, you can save yourself some time by regarding the above information as definitive. All the current booting tools (see src/sys/boot) do support both a.out and ELF. This applies both to the bootblocks (boot1 and boot2) and to /boot/loader. -- Robert Nordier To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 16:11:16 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA24022 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 16:11:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pcnet1.pcnet.com (pcnet1.pcnet.com [204.213.232.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA24014 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 16:11:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eischen@vigrid.com) Received: (from eischen@localhost) by pcnet1.pcnet.com (8.8.7/PCNet) id TAA14807 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 19:10:12 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 19:10:12 -0500 (EST) From: Daniel Eischen Message-Id: <199901120010.TAA14807@pcnet1.pcnet.com> To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: XiG Motif - FreeBSD ELF Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I sent an Email off to Xig inquiring about a FreeBSD ELF version of the Accelerated X server and Motif. The response was: > Dan, > Unfortunately, we don't yet support ELF, and we haven't decided > yet if we're going to. I will let engineering know that you would > like support for 3.0, but I can't promise that we'll be supporting it. > I apologize for the inconvenience. If others, like me, would really like an ELF version of Motif and the Accelerated X server, please send your requests to Xig (sales@xig.com). Feel free to re-post this to another list if -current isn't deemed appropriate. Dan Eischen eischen@vigrid.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 16:22:23 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA25442 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 16:22:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mired.eh.local (kstreet.interlog.com [198.53.146.171]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA25433 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 16:22:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from street@iname.com) Received: (from kws@localhost) by mired.eh.local (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA00497; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 19:20:56 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from kws) To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Kazutaka YOKOTA Subject: Splash crash From: Kevin Street Date: 11 Jan 1999 19:20:56 -0500 Message-ID: <87ogo5wdcn.fsf@mired.eh.local> Lines: 11 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/XEmacs 20.4 - "Emerald" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Any idea what's causing this? Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xf0285000. Preloaded userconfig_script "/boot/kernel.config" at 0xf028509c. Preloaded splash_image_data "/boot/sandstone.bmp" at 0xf02850ec. Preloaded elf module "splash_bmp.ko" at 0xf028513c. module_register_init: module_register(splash_bmp, f0281570, 0) error 19 -- Kevin Street street@iName.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 16:35:11 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA27227 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 16:35:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from shell2.la.best.com (shell2.la.best.com [209.24.216.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA27221 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 16:35:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nugundam@shell2.la.best.com) Received: (from nugundam@localhost) by shell2.la.best.com (8.9.1/8.9.0/best.sh) id QAA29835; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 16:33:30 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <19990111163330.B27416@la.best.com> Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 16:33:30 -0800 From: "Joseph T. Lee" To: Edwin Culp , Sheldon Hearn Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Enabling Softupdates with symlinks? References: <17875.915798021@axl.noc.iafrica.com> <369605D3.C9523819@webwizard.org.mx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <369605D3.C9523819@webwizard.org.mx>; from Edwin Culp on Fri, Jan 08, 1999 at 07:19:16AM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Jan 08, 1999 at 07:19:16AM -0600, Edwin Culp wrote: > Once you're running a kernel with soft update support, you need to enable > it for whichever filesystems you wish to run with the soft update policy. > This is done with the -n option to tunefs(8) on the UNMOUNTED filesystems, > e.g. from single-user mode you'd do something like: > > tunefs -n enable /dev/rsd0s1d > > To permanently enable soft updates on that filesystem (or at least until > a corresponding ``tunefs -n disable'' is done). For softupdates on /, since you can't umount it, it's something like tunefs -n enable /, and then hit the reset key.. preferably in single user mode. -- Joseph nugundam =best=com==/==\=IIGS=/==\=Playstation=/==\=Civic HX CVT=/==\ # Anime Expo 1998 >> www.anime-expo.org/ > # Redline Games >> www.redlinegames.com/ > # Cal-Animage Epsilon >> www.best.com/~nugundam/epsilon/ > # EX: The Online World of Anime & Manga >> www.ex.org/ / To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 16:37:09 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA27400 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 16:37:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from picnic.mat.net (picnic.mat.net [206.246.122.117]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA27394 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 16:37:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chuckr@mat.net) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost) by picnic.mat.net (8.9.1/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA36471; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 19:34:44 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 19:34:44 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Robey To: Daniel Eischen cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: XiG Motif - FreeBSD ELF In-Reply-To: <199901120010.TAA14807@pcnet1.pcnet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 11 Jan 1999, Daniel Eischen wrote: > > I sent an Email off to Xig inquiring about a FreeBSD ELF version of > the Accelerated X server and Motif. The response was: > > > Dan, > > Unfortunately, we don't yet support ELF, and we haven't decided > > yet if we're going to. I will let engineering know that you would > > like support for 3.0, but I can't promise that we'll be supporting it. > > I apologize for the inconvenience. > > If others, like me, would really like an ELF version of Motif and the > Accelerated X server, please send your requests to Xig (sales@xig.com). > > Feel free to re-post this to another list if -current isn't deemed > appropriate. I started bugging them about it months ago, and last month I finally got advised that they had no plans to introduce any elf Motif at all. Until then, they gave me that same response I got from you. I wasn't endlessly bugging them, just a polite reminder about once every 45 days. They sound like a lost cause to me. You can forward this to them if you want. > > Dan Eischen > eischen@vigrid.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@glue.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and picnic (FreeBSD-current) (301) 220-2114 | and jaunt (NetBSD). ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 16:39:46 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA27631 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 16:39:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from arnold.swimsuit.internet.dk (mail.swimsuit.internet.dk [194.255.12.232]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA27625 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 16:39:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from leif@swimsuit.internet.dk) Received: from localhost (leif@localhost) by arnold.swimsuit.internet.dk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA23157; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 01:38:45 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from leif@arnold.swimsuit.internet.dk) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 01:38:42 +0100 (CET) From: Leif Neland To: hm@hcs.de cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: i4b devices not made In-Reply-To: <19990111092217.A14500@hcswork.hcs.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 11 Jan 1999, Hellmuth Michaelis wrote: > On Mon, Jan 11, 1999 at 01:55:03AM +0100, Leif Neland wrote: > > > MAKEDEV doesn't create any needed devices for i4b. > > This has changed. An update to MAKEDEV to make i4b devices was committed > some days ago. Well, the id of MAKEDEV is 1.182 1999/01/11 00:03:58, so I was in good faith I think... Anyway, what's the matter here? I have made the devices. isdnd says: ERR init_controller: no ISDN controller found. dmesg: ITK ix1 micro probe: hscx = 0xff, config = 0xff, would have failed isic0 at 0x2a8 irq 9 flags 0x12 on isa isic0: HSCX VSTR test failed for ITK ix1 micro isic0: HSC0: VSTR: 0xff isic0: HSC1: VSTR: 0xff isic0: irq with no handler i4b: ISDN call control device attached i4bisppp: 4 ISDN SyncPPP device(s) attached i4bctl: ISDN system control port attached i4bipr: 4 IP over raw HDLC ISDN device(s) attached (VJ header compression) i4btel: 2 ISDN telephony interface device(s) attached i4brbch: 4 raw B channel access device(s) attached i4btrc: 4 ISDN trace device(s) attached Leif To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 16:42:48 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA28006 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 16:42:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from apollo.backplane.com (apollo.backplane.com [209.157.86.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA28000 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 16:42:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA98330; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 16:42:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 16:42:10 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <199901120042.QAA98330@apollo.backplane.com> To: "Joseph T. Lee" Cc: Edwin Culp , Sheldon Hearn , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Enabling Softupdates with symlinks? Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :> To permanently enable soft updates on that filesystem (or at least until :> a corresponding ``tunefs -n disable'' is done). : :For softupdates on /, since you can't umount it, it's something like :tunefs -n enable /, and then hit the reset key.. preferably in single :user mode. : :-- :Joseph nugundam =best=com==/==\=IIGS=/==\=Playstation=/==\=Civic HX CVT=/==\ No no ... don't hit the reset key. If you make a mistake and hit reset just as the HD is writing a sector, you'll loose the sector (or worse). HD's do *NOT* have enough capacitance on the power bus to finish the write. They really don't ... it's an computer geek's urban myth. Instead, use 'reboot -n'. If that fails, for gods sakes, use a floppy boot or boot into a CD ( -C at the boot: prompt with the correct CDRom in the drive. You can do this from a floppy boot: prompt/kernel, the BIOS does not have to recognize the CD so it works with SCSI CD's ).... then sd0s1a will not be mounted at all and you can tunefs it to turn on softupdates. -Matt Matthew Dillon Engineering, HiWay Technologies, Inc. & BEST Internet Communications & God knows what else. (Please include original email in any response) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 16:53:28 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA29532 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 16:53:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from shell2.la.best.com (shell2.la.best.com [209.24.216.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA29526 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 16:53:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nugundam@shell2.la.best.com) Received: (from nugundam@localhost) by shell2.la.best.com (8.9.1/8.9.0/best.sh) id QAA00256; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 16:52:14 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <19990111165214.C27416@la.best.com> Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 16:52:14 -0800 From: "Joseph T. Lee" To: Robert Nordier , Tugrul Cc: axl@iafrica.com, bright@hotjobs.com, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Booting FreeBSD beyond the 1024th cylinder References: <199901112356.BAA00761@ceia.nordier.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <199901112356.BAA00761@ceia.nordier.com>; from Robert Nordier on Tue, Jan 12, 1999 at 01:56:15AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Jan 12, 1999 at 01:56:15AM +0200, Robert Nordier wrote: > Booting FreeBSD beyond cylinder 1023 is not currently supported. > > Support, by way of the IBM/Microsoft int 0x13 extensions, was > present in the new bootblocks a few months ago but was removed: > too many BIOSes don't implement this stuff properly. Couldn't this be added somehow as an option, or get autodetected? I've noticed my adaptec board can detect 0x13 extension support. Joseph To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 17:00:43 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA01078 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 17:00:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from whizzo.transsys.com (whizzo.TransSys.COM [144.202.42.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA01072 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 17:00:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from louie@whizzo.transsys.com) Received: from whizzo.transsys.com (localhost.transsys.com [127.0.0.1]) by whizzo.transsys.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA94034; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 20:00:04 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from louie@whizzo.transsys.com) Message-Id: <199901120100.UAA94034@whizzo.transsys.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Tugrul cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Louis A. Mamakos" Subject: Re: Booting FreeBSD beyond the 1024th cylinder References: In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 11 Jan 1999 15:01:55 EST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 20:00:03 -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG What I've done is make a very small slice with the root partition at the front of the disk, had my windows partition after it, and then the bulk of the freebsd filesystems on another slice. I don't know if the install tools will let you do this yourself easily or not, but it works for me. louie To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 17:16:20 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA02547 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 17:16:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.196.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA02542 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 17:16:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (IDENT:zbOYDxiLVC71c4ItzS5VIE5WUHq2t4oy@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA05233; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 10:15:32 +0900 (JST) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.7.6+2.6Wbeta7/3.4W/zodiac-May96) with ESMTP id KAA29737; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 10:17:59 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199901120117.KAA29737@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> To: Kevin Street cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp Subject: Re: Splash crash In-reply-to: Your message of "11 Jan 1999 19:20:56 EST." <87ogo5wdcn.fsf@mired.eh.local> References: <87ogo5wdcn.fsf@mired.eh.local> Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 10:17:58 +0900 From: Kazutaka YOKOTA Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >Any idea what's causing this? > >Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xf0285000. >Preloaded userconfig_script "/boot/kernel.config" at 0xf028509c. >Preloaded splash_image_data "/boot/sandstone.bmp" at 0xf02850ec. >Preloaded elf module "splash_bmp.ko" at 0xf028513c. >module_register_init: module_register(splash_bmp, f0281570, 0) error 19 I expect your kernel is not actually panicing or crashing. You just don't see the BMP file displayed, right? The current version of splash_bmp.ko is very limited. The color depth must be 8 bpp (256 color), and the size must be 320x200 or smaller. If your BMP file doesn't satisfy these conditions, splash_bmp.ko will return error 19 (ENODEV). These restriction may be relaxed in the future (no delivery date is promised, though). Um, yes, there is another possibility of error. If the video driver finds it unable to switch video modes on your video card, splash_bmp.ko will fail too. Run the `dmesg' command and see if it shows something like "...video mode switching is only partially supported..." among boot messages. There is no fix for this at the moment. Sorry. Kazu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 17:56:39 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA06751 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 17:56:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ceia.nordier.com (m2-28-dbn.dial-up.net [196.34.155.92]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA06745 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 17:56:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rnordier@nordier.com) Received: (from rnordier@localhost) by ceia.nordier.com (8.8.7/8.6.12) id DAA01853; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 03:54:22 +0200 (SAT) From: Robert Nordier Message-Id: <199901120154.DAA01853@ceia.nordier.com> Subject: Re: Booting FreeBSD beyond the 1024th cylinder In-Reply-To: <19990111165214.C27416@la.best.com> from "Joseph T. Lee" at "Jan 11, 99 04:52:14 pm" To: nugundam@la.best.com (Joseph T. Lee) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 03:54:18 +0200 (SAT) Cc: rnordier@nordier.com, tugrul@ianai.BlackSun.org, axl@iafrica.com, bright@hotjobs.com, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Joseph T. Lee wrote: > On Tue, Jan 12, 1999 at 01:56:15AM +0200, Robert Nordier wrote: > > Booting FreeBSD beyond cylinder 1023 is not currently supported. > > > > Support, by way of the IBM/Microsoft int 0x13 extensions, was > > present in the new bootblocks a few months ago but was removed: > > too many BIOSes don't implement this stuff properly. > > Couldn't this be added somehow as an option, or get autodetected? > I've noticed my adaptec board can detect 0x13 extension support. We did used to detect support (int 0x13/0x41 returns an API subset support bitmap), but too often support was present but broken. As an example of the kind of problem: there's a recent Dell Optiplex GXa here which does support the extensions OK, but only if BIOS disk geometry is set to "auto"; otherwise, support is still claimed but it doesn't work (a divide error exception results). What is really needed (and this is the approach Microsoft adopts) is a real or V86 mode utility which runs tests before enabling support. But this doesn't slot neatly into FreeBSD's current installation model. The new boot manager (boot0) does support int 0x13 extensions as an "at own risk" option. In a few months, once everyone has successfully migrated to the new boot code and has confidence in it, we may introduce this as an option (given sufficient demand). -- Robert Nordier To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 18:12:59 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA08674 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 18:12:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Terry.Dorm10.NCTU.edu.tw (Terry.Dorm10.NCTU.edu.tw [140.113.122.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA08660 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 18:12:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ijliao@Terry.Dorm10.NCTU.edu.tw) Received: (from ijliao@localhost) by Terry.Dorm10.NCTU.edu.tw (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA00400; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 12:18:16 +0800 (CST) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 12:18:16 +0800 From: Ying-Chieh Liao To: lcremean@tidalwave.net Cc: Kenneth Wayne Culver , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ide_pci Message-ID: <19990111121816.A388@terry.dragon2.net> References: <19990110024647.A50225@tidalwave.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: <19990110024647.A50225@tidalwave.net>; from "Lee Cremeans" on Sun, Jan 10, 1999 at 02:46:47 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Jan 10, 1999 at 02:46:47 -0500, Lee Cremeans wrote: > options DISABLE_PCI_IDE i noticed that if i use this options with softupdates, i can't get my 2nd ide ; but if i use this without softupdates, it's all ok -- mailto:ijliao@dragon2.net?subject="send pgp key" to get my pgp public key key finger print : FA 38 7E 91 FA 22 FA F6 63 04 E3 B5 A1 9F 0C CD To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 18:17:24 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA09579 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 18:17:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from st-lcremean.tidalwave.net (host-e186.tidalwave.net [208.213.203.186] (may be forged)) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA09573 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 18:17:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lee@st-lcremean.tidalwave.net) Received: (from lee@localhost) by st-lcremean.tidalwave.net (8.9.1/8.8.8) id VAA68325; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 21:15:11 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from lee) Message-ID: <19990111211511.A68318@tidalwave.net> Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 21:15:11 -0500 From: Lee Cremeans To: Ying-Chieh Liao Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ide_pci Reply-To: lcremean@tidalwave.net References: <19990110024647.A50225@tidalwave.net> <19990111121816.A388@terry.dragon2.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <19990111121816.A388@terry.dragon2.net>; from Ying-Chieh Liao on Mon, Jan 11, 1999 at 12:18:16PM +0800 X-OS: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT X-Evil: microsoft.com Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jan 11, 1999 at 12:18:16PM +0800, Ying-Chieh Liao wrote: > On Sun, Jan 10, 1999 at 02:46:47 -0500, Lee Cremeans wrote: > > options DISABLE_PCI_IDE > > i noticed that if i use this options with softupdates, i can't get my 2nd > ide ; but if i use this without softupdates, it's all ok > Do this for me: Grab http://st-lcremean.tidalwave.net/~lee/acer-udma.tar.gz apply the patch inside, remove 'options DISABLE_PCI_IDE', and tell me what happens. -- +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Lee Cremeans -- Manassas, VA, USA (WakkyMouse on DALnet and WTnet)| | lcremean@tidalwave.net| http://st-lcremean.tidalwave.net/~lee | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 18:25:22 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA11035 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 18:25:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ianai.BlackSun.org (Ianai.blacksun.org [168.100.186.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA11025 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 18:25:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tugrul@ianai.BlackSun.org) Received: from localhost (tugrul@localhost) by ianai.BlackSun.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAA05878; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 21:16:43 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from tugrul@ianai.BlackSun.org) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 21:16:43 -0500 (EST) From: Tugrul To: Robert Nordier cc: axl@iafrica.com, bright@hotjobs.com, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Booting FreeBSD beyond the 1024th cylinder In-Reply-To: <199901112356.BAA00761@ceia.nordier.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > As regards the cylinder > 1023 issue, you can save yourself some > time by regarding the above information as definitive. > > All the current booting tools (see src/sys/boot) do support both > a.out and ELF. This applies both to the bootblocks (boot1 and > boot2) and to /boot/loader. I think I poorly worded what I meant to say earlier... nothing in sys/i386/boot seems to work with elf. For now I built a aout kernel, catted it with /usr/mdec/rawboot to a floppy and I'm happy :-) If nobody else has looked at updating rawboot, I guess I'll take it on myself to figure it out between semesters in school later this month. Sorry for the inconvience I might have caused. Tugrul Galatali > > -- > Robert Nordier > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 18:26:03 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA11276 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 18:26:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from send101.yahoomail.com (send101.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA11271 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 18:26:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ixkatl@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <19990112022434.28366.rocketmail@send101.yahoomail.com> Received: from [207.172.82.226] by send101.yahoomail.com; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 18:24:34 PST Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 18:24:34 -0800 (PST) From: Andrew Sherrod Subject: Fwd: [Modified Patch] Re: i386/9431: wd.c Does nto recognize certain LBA disks [patch attached] To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: ixkatl@yahoo.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Have to correct myself. My original message to -current: > I think I found a problem in the wd.ccode which makes > it unable to recognize certain LBA disks. > The code assumes any LBA disk will return 16383 as the > number of cylinders. In my case, at least (Award BIOS > on a Tyan Trinity motherboard) two of the three disks > do NOT return this number, so the disk size is > underestimated by the kernel probes. [Yes, I DID fix > this by putting on a DOS partition, but wouldn't it > be nice to not have to rely on DOS partitions for > disk geometry?] > Well, I don't know if this fixes any other disk > geometry problems, as I haven't tried it out very > extensively, but this patch does make dmesg > (and the boot time probes) return the correct number > of sectors. > Could anyone tell me if this breaks anything? And what > the reasoning was behind the 16383 restriction. (After > all, it only reaches that line of code if the LBA flag > is set anyway. So we already know it is in LBA mode. > The 16383 seems superfluous.) > Andrew Sherrod [Patch omitted] --------------------------------------------------- My follow-up post to GNATS: > Correcting my own mistake here. (Never try to patch >something too late at night.) > The piece of code I changed was NOT inside the LBA > flag portion. Insterad, it was in the "else" part > of the "if lba_flag" code. > The reason? It seems Award BIOS (at least some > versions) do not return any flags when LBA is active. > So, the patch still stands, it simply needs a better > explanation. > (I could really use the input of some disk gurus > here. Any idea why the Award BIOS would NOT return > any flags? And, more important, if LBA is not > enabled, will any lba_size value be returned?Or if > LBA is off is a null or 0 returned?) > Proposed patches for 2.2.8 and 3.0.0 follow: > *** wd.c.2_2_8 Mon Jan 11 20:59:44 1999 > --- wd.c.original.2_2_8 Mon Jan 11 20:41:01 1999 > *************** > *** 1727,1740 **** > du->dk_dd.d_nsectors = wp->wdp_sectors; > du->dk_dd.d_secpercyl = du->dk_dd.d_ntracks * du->dk_dd.d_nsectors; > du->dk_dd.d_secperunit = du->dk_dd.d_secpercyl * du->dk_dd.d_ncylinders; > ! /* It appears that Award BIOSes (At least the more recent > ! versions) do not return an LBA flag when probed. However, > ! as an LBA size should not be returned when LBA mode is not > ! active, this hack seems safe. > ! > ! A. Sherrod 01/11/1998 */ > ! > ! if(du->dk_dd.d_secperunit < wp->wdp_lbasize) { > du->dk_dd.d_secperunit = wp->wdp_lbasize; > du->dk_dd.d_ncylinders = > du->dk_dd.d_secperunit / du->dk_dd.d_secpercyl; > --- 1727,1734 ---- > du->dk_dd.d_nsectors = wp->wdp_sectors; > du->dk_dd.d_secpercyl = du->dk_dd.d_ntracks * du->dk_dd.d_nsectors; > du->dk_dd.d_secperunit = du->dk_dd.d_secpercyl * du->dk_dd.d_ncylinders; > ! if (wp->wdp_cylinders == 16383 && > ! du->dk_dd.d_secperunit < wp->wdp_lbasize) { > du->dk_dd.d_secperunit = wp->wdp_lbasize; > du->dk_dd.d_ncylinders = > du->dk_dd.d_secperunit / du->dk_dd.d_secpercyl; > > > *** wd.c.3_0 Mon Jan 11 21:01:30 1999 > --- wd.c.original.3_0 Sun Jan 10 21:27:22 1999 > *************** > *** 1949,1964 **** > du->dk_dd.d_ntracks * du->dk_dd.d_nsectors; > du->dk_dd.d_secperunit = > du->dk_dd.d_secpercyl * du->dk_dd.d_ncylinders; > ! > ! /* It appears that certain Award BIOSes (newer versions > ! apparently) do not return LBA flags when LBA is > ! active. Hwoever, as LBA size should not be returned > ! when LBA is off, this hack should be safe. > ! > ! A. Sherrod 01/11/1998 */ > ! > ! > ! if(du->dk_dd.d_secperunit < wp->wdp_lbasize) { > du->dk_dd.d_secperunit = wp->wdp_lbasize; > du->dk_dd.d_ncylinders = > du->dk_dd.d_secperunit / du->dk_dd.d_secpercyl; > --- 1949,1956 ---- > du->dk_dd.d_ntracks * du->dk_dd.d_nsectors; > du->dk_dd.d_secperunit = > du->dk_dd.d_secpercyl * du->dk_dd.d_ncylinders; > ! if (wp->wdp_cylinders == 16383 && > ! du->dk_dd.d_secperunit < wp->wdp_lbasize) { > du->dk_dd.d_secperunit = wp->wdp_lbasize; > du->dk_dd.d_ncylinders = > du->dk_dd.d_secperunit / du->dk_dd.d_secpercyl; > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 18:48:22 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA13416 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 18:48:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from www0y.netaddress.usa.net (www0y.netaddress.usa.net [204.68.24.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA13401 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 18:48:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from slpalmer@netscape.net) Received: (qmail 15271 invoked by uid 60001); 12 Jan 1999 02:45:18 -0000 Message-ID: <19990112024518.15270.qmail@www0y.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.24.54 by www0y via web-mailer(R2.6) on Tue Jan 12 02:45:17 GMT 1999 Date: 12 Jan 99 02:45:17 America/Fort_Wayne From: Stephen Palmer To: son@prism.uvsq.fr, Stephen Palmer Subject: Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: Request fo help with Zip Drive on vpo0 in -current]]] CC: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, dfr@nlsystems.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id SAA13409 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Requested logs are appended to the end of this message... I hope this helps. Please keem me informed! Stephen L. Palmer slpalmer@netscape.net son@prism.uvsq.fr wrote: > On Sun, Jan 10, 1999 at 10:39:23PM +0000, Stephen Palmer wrote: > > > >Success! > > da0 is now detected on my system as long as I give > >flags 0x1 or 0x4 to ppc0. This forces the chipset > >to "Generic" rather than "SMC". Not setting the flags > >causes the chipset to be detected correctly, but da0 > >not to be detected. Thanks for the good work! I can > >send verbose dmesg output to anyone interested in squashing > >the remaining inconvieniances. > > I guess the last committed patch solved your problem, not the 0x4 flags. > Or it means that your chipset does run anymore properly in ECP+EPP mode and > this is odd. > > Yes, send me your logs with/without the flags set. > ****dmesg from boot with no flags set on ppc0**** tel_piix_status: secondary master/slave sample = 3, master/slave recovery = 3 intel_piix_status: secondary slave fastDMAonly disabled, pre/post enabled, intel_piix_status: IORDY sampling enabled, intel_piix_status: fast PIO enabled ide_pci: busmaster 1 status: 04 from port: 0000f00a found-> vendor=0x8086, dev=0x7112, revid=0x01 class=0c-03-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 intpin=d, irq=11 map[0]: type 4, range 32, base 00006400, size 5 found-> vendor=0x8086, dev=0x7113, revid=0x01 class=06-80-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 chip2: rev 0x01 on pci0.7.3 found-> vendor=0x10de, dev=0x0020, revid=0x03 class=03-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 intpin=a, irq=10 map[0]: type 1, range 32, base e0000000, size 24 map[1]: type 3, range 32, base e1000000, size 24 vga0: rev 0x03 int a irq 10 on pci0.8.0 Initializing PnP override table Probing for PnP devices: Trying Read_Port at 203 Trying Read_Port at 243 PnP: CSN 1 COMP_DEVICE_ID = 0x2fb0d041 CSN 1 Vendor ID: CTL00c5 [0xc5008c0e] Serial 0x1b9e4f4c Comp ID: PNPb02f [0x2fb0d041] Called nullpnp_probe with tag 0x00000001, type 0xc5008c0e Called nullpnp_probe with tag 0x00000001, type 0x2fb0d041 port 0x0220 0x0330 0x0388 0x0000 irq 9:0 drq 1:7 en 1 port 0x0220 0x0330 0x0388 0x0000 irq 9:0 drq 1:7 en 1 pcm1 (SB16pnp sn 0x1b9e4f4c) at 0x220-0x22f irq 9 drq 1 flags 0x17 on isa Probing for devices on the ISA bus: video: RTC equip. code:0x0f, DCC code:0x09 video: CRTC:0x3d4, video option:0x60, rows:80, cols:25, font height:16 video: param table EGA/VGA:0xf00c06f4, CGA/MDA:0 video: rows_offset:1 video#0: adapter type:VGA (5), flags:0x7f, CRTC:0x3d4 video#0: init mode:24, bios mode:3, current mode:24 video#0: window:0xf00b8000 size:32k gran:32k, buf:0xf0000000 size:0k video#0: mode:0, flags:0x1 T 40x25, font:8x8, win:0xb8000 video#0: mode:1, flags:0x1 T 40x25, font:8x8, win:0xb8000 video#0: mode:2, flags:0x1 T 80x25, font:8x8, win:0xb8000 video#0: mode:3, flags:0x1 T 80x25, font:8x8, win:0xb8000 video#0: mode:19, flags:0x1 T 40x25, font:8x14, win:0xb8000 video#0: mode:20, flags:0x1 T 40x25, font:8x14, win:0xb8000 video#0: mode:21, flags:0x1 T 80x25, font:8x14, win:0xb8000 video#0: mode:22, flags:0x1 T 80x25, font:8x14, win:0xb8000 video#0: mode:23, flags:0x1 T 40x25, font:8x16, win:0xb8000 video#0: mode:25, flags:0x0 T 80x25, font:8x16, win:0xb0000 video#0: mode:24, flags:0x1 T 80x25, font:8x16, win:0xb8000 video#0: mode:7, flags:0x0 T 80x25, font:8x14, win:0xb0000 video#0: mode:112, flags:0x1 T 80x43, font:8x8, win:0xb8000 video#0: mode:113, flags:0x1 T 80x43, font:8x8, win:0xb8000 video#0: mode:33, flags:0x0 T 80x30, font:8x16, win:0xb0000 video#0: mode:32, flags:0x1 T 80x30, font:8x16, win:0xb8000 video#0: mode:31, flags:0x0 T 80x50, font:8x8, win:0xb0000 video#0: mode:30, flags:0x1 T 80x50, font:8x8, win:0xb8000 video#0: mode:35, flags:0x0 T 80x60, font:8x8, win:0xb0000 video#0: mode:34, flags:0x1 T 80x60, font:8x8, win:0xb8000 video#0: mode:4, flags:0x3 G 320x200x2, 1 plane(s), font:8x8, win:0xb8000 video#0: mode:5, flags:0x3 G 320x200x2, 1 plane(s), font:8x8, win:0xb8000 video#0: mode:6, flags:0x3 G 640x200x1, 1 plane(s), font:8x8, win:0xb8000 video#0: mode:13, flags:0x3 G 320x200x4, 4 plane(s), font:8x8, win:0xa0000 video#0: mode:14, flags:0x3 G 640x200x4, 4 plane(s), font:8x8, win:0xa0000 video#0: mode:15, flags:0x2 G 640x350x4, 4 plane(s), font:8x14, win:0xa0000 video#0: mode:17, flags:0x2 G 640x350x4, 4 plane(s), font:8x14, win:0xa0000 video#0: mode:16, flags:0x3 G 640x350x2, 2 plane(s), font:8x14, win:0xa0000 video#0: mode:18, flags:0x3 G 640x350x4, 4 plane(s), font:8x14, win:0xa0000 video#0: mode:26, flags:0x3 G 640x480x4, 4 plane(s), font:8x16, win:0xa0000 video#0: mode:27, flags:0x3 G 640x480x4, 4 plane(s), font:8x16, win:0xa0000 video#0: mode:28, flags:0x3 G 320x200x8, 1 plane(s), font:8x8, win:0xa0000 video#0: mode:37, flags:0x3 G 320x240x8, 1 plane(s), font:8x8, win:0xa0000 VGA parameters upon power-up 50 18 10 00 00 00 03 00 02 67 5f 4f 50 82 55 81 bf 1f 00 4f 0e 0f 00 00 07 80 9c 8e 8f 28 1f 96 b9 a3 ff 00 01 02 03 04 05 14 07 38 39 3a 3b 3c 3d 3e 3f 0c 00 0f 08 00 00 00 00 00 10 0e 00 ff VGA parameters in BIOS for mode 24 50 18 10 00 10 00 03 00 02 67 5f 4f 50 82 55 81 bf 1f 00 4f 0d 0e 00 00 00 00 9c 8e 8f 28 1f 96 b9 a3 ff 00 01 02 03 04 05 14 07 38 39 3a 3b 3c 3d 3e 3f 0c 00 0f 08 00 00 00 00 00 10 0e 00 ff EGA/VGA parameters to be used for mode 24 50 18 10 00 10 00 03 00 02 67 5f 4f 50 82 55 81 bf 1f 00 4f 0d 0e 00 00 00 00 9c 8e 8f 28 1f 96 b9 a3 ff 00 01 02 03 04 05 14 07 38 39 3a 3b 3c 3d 3e 3f 0c 00 0f 08 00 00 00 00 00 10 0e 00 ff sc0: the current keyboard controller command byte 0047 kbdio: DIAGNOSE status:0055 kbdio: TEST_KBD_PORT status:0000 kbdio: RESET_KBD return code:00fa kbdio: RESET_KBD status:00aa sc0: keyboard device ID: ab41 sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> sio0: irq maps: 0x1 0x11 0x1 0x1 sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1: irq maps: 0x1 0x21 0x1 0x1 sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 5 on isa sio1: type 16550A sio2: disabled, not probed. sio3: disabled, not probed. psm0: current command byte:0047 kbdio: TEST_AUX_PORT status:0002 kbdio: DIAGNOSE status:0055 kbdio: TEST_KBD_PORT status:0000 psm0: the aux port is not functioning (2). psm0 not found at 0x60 pcm0 not probed due to drq conflict with pcm1 at 1 ppc: parallel port found at 0x378 ppc0: ECP SPP ECP+EPP SPP ppc0 at 0x378 irq 7 on isa ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/16 bytes threshold nlpt0: on ppbus 0 nlpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus 0 lppps0: on ppbus 0 vpo0: on ppbus 0 vpo0: EPP 1.9 mode plip: irq 7 plip0: on ppbus 0 fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): wd0: 6149MB (12594960 sectors), 13328 cyls, 15 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wd0: ATA INQUIRE valid = 0007, dmamword = 0007, apio = 0003, udma = 0407 wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa wdc1: unit 0 (atapi): , removable, intr, dma, iordis acd0: drive speed 689 - 4134KB/sec, 256KB cache acd0: supported read types: CD-R, CD-RW, CD-DA, packet track acd0: Audio: play, 255 volume levels acd0: Mechanism: ejectable tray acd0: Medium: CD-RW 120mm photo disc loaded, unlocked wdc1: unit 1 (atapi): , removable, dma, iordy acd1: drive speed 344 - 1034KB/sec, 1024KB cache acd1: supported read types: CD-R, CD-RW, CD-DA, packet track acd1: supported write types: CD-R, CD-RW, test write acd1: Audio: play, 128 volume levels acd1: Mechanism: ejectable tray acd1: Medium: no/blank disc inside, unlocked, lock protected npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface i586_bzero() bandwidth = 354735721 bytes/sec bzero() bandwidth = 544959128 bytes/sec apm0: disabled, not probed. imasks: bio c008c040, tty c00702b2, net c00702b2 BIOS Geometries: 0:00000000 0..0=1 cylinders, 0..0=1 heads, 1..0=0 sectors 1:00000000 0..0=1 cylinders, 0..0=1 heads, 1..0=0 sectors 2:00000000 0..0=1 cylinders, 0..0=1 heads, 1..0=0 sectors 3:00000000 0..0=1 cylinders, 0..0=1 heads, 1..0=0 sectors 4:00000000 0..0=1 cylinders, 0..0=1 heads, 1..0=0 sectors 5:00000000 0..0=1 cylinders, 0..0=1 heads, 1..0=0 sectors 6:00000000 0..0=1 cylinders, 0..0=1 heads, 1..0=0 sectors 7:00000000 0..0=1 cylinders, 0..0=1 heads, 1..0=0 sectors 0 accounted for Device configuration finished. new masks: bio c008c040, tty c00702b2, net c00702b2 Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle Considering FFS root f/s. changing root device to wd0s2a wd0s1: type 0xb, start 63, end = 8112824, size 8112762 : OK wd0s2: type 0xa5, start 10104885, end = 12594959, size 2490075 : OK wd0s3: type 0xa5, start 8112825, end = 10104884, size 1992060 : OK Linux-ELF exec handler installed ************************END DMESG************************** ****dmesg from boot with 'flags ppc0 0x4' set ****** led ide_pci: busmaster 1 status: 04 from port: 0000f00a found-> vendor=0x8086, dev=0x7112, revid=0x01 class=0c-03-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 intpin=d, irq=11 map[0]: type 4, range 32, base 00006400, size 5 found-> vendor=0x8086, dev=0x7113, revid=0x01 class=06-80-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 chip2: rev 0x01 on pci0.7.3 found-> vendor=0x10de, dev=0x0020, revid=0x03 class=03-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 intpin=a, irq=10 map[0]: type 1, range 32, base e0000000, size 24 map[1]: type 3, range 32, base e1000000, size 24 vga0: rev 0x03 int a irq 10 on pci0.8.0 Initializing PnP override table Probing for PnP devices: Trying Read_Port at 203 Trying Read_Port at 243 PnP: CSN 1 COMP_DEVICE_ID = 0x2fb0d041 CSN 1 Vendor ID: CTL00c5 [0xc5008c0e] Serial 0x1b9e4f4c Comp ID: PNPb02f [0x2fb0d041] Called nullpnp_probe with tag 0x00000001, type 0xc5008c0e Called nullpnp_probe with tag 0x00000001, type 0x2fb0d041 port 0x0220 0x0330 0x0388 0x0000 irq 9:0 drq 1:7 en 1 port 0x0220 0x0330 0x0388 0x0000 irq 9:0 drq 1:7 en 1 pcm1 (SB16pnp sn 0x1b9e4f4c) at 0x220-0x22f irq 9 drq 1 flags 0x17 on isa Probing for devices on the ISA bus: video: RTC equip. code:0x0f, DCC code:0x09 video: CRTC:0x3d4, video option:0x60, rows:80, cols:25, font height:16 video: param table EGA/VGA:0xf00c06f4, CGA/MDA:0 video: rows_offset:1 video#0: adapter type:VGA (5), flags:0x7f, CRTC:0x3d4 video#0: init mode:24, bios mode:3, current mode:24 video#0: window:0xf00b8000 size:32k gran:32k, buf:0xf0000000 size:0k video#0: mode:0, flags:0x1 T 40x25, font:8x8, win:0xb8000 video#0: mode:1, flags:0x1 T 40x25, font:8x8, win:0xb8000 video#0: mode:2, flags:0x1 T 80x25, font:8x8, win:0xb8000 video#0: mode:3, flags:0x1 T 80x25, font:8x8, win:0xb8000 video#0: mode:19, flags:0x1 T 40x25, font:8x14, win:0xb8000 video#0: mode:20, flags:0x1 T 40x25, font:8x14, win:0xb8000 video#0: mode:21, flags:0x1 T 80x25, font:8x14, win:0xb8000 video#0: mode:22, flags:0x1 T 80x25, font:8x14, win:0xb8000 video#0: mode:23, flags:0x1 T 40x25, font:8x16, win:0xb8000 video#0: mode:25, flags:0x0 T 80x25, font:8x16, win:0xb0000 video#0: mode:24, flags:0x1 T 80x25, font:8x16, win:0xb8000 video#0: mode:7, flags:0x0 T 80x25, font:8x14, win:0xb0000 video#0: mode:112, flags:0x1 T 80x43, font:8x8, win:0xb8000 video#0: mode:113, flags:0x1 T 80x43, font:8x8, win:0xb8000 video#0: mode:33, flags:0x0 T 80x30, font:8x16, win:0xb0000 video#0: mode:32, flags:0x1 T 80x30, font:8x16, win:0xb8000 video#0: mode:31, flags:0x0 T 80x50, font:8x8, win:0xb0000 video#0: mode:30, flags:0x1 T 80x50, font:8x8, win:0xb8000 video#0: mode:35, flags:0x0 T 80x60, font:8x8, win:0xb0000 video#0: mode:34, flags:0x1 T 80x60, font:8x8, win:0xb8000 video#0: mode:4, flags:0x3 G 320x200x2, 1 plane(s), font:8x8, win:0xb8000 video#0: mode:5, flags:0x3 G 320x200x2, 1 plane(s), font:8x8, win:0xb8000 video#0: mode:6, flags:0x3 G 640x200x1, 1 plane(s), font:8x8, win:0xb8000 video#0: mode:13, flags:0x3 G 320x200x4, 4 plane(s), font:8x8, win:0xa0000 video#0: mode:14, flags:0x3 G 640x200x4, 4 plane(s), font:8x8, win:0xa0000 video#0: mode:15, flags:0x2 G 640x350x4, 4 plane(s), font:8x14, win:0xa0000 video#0: mode:17, flags:0x2 G 640x350x4, 4 plane(s), font:8x14, win:0xa0000 video#0: mode:16, flags:0x3 G 640x350x2, 2 plane(s), font:8x14, win:0xa0000 video#0: mode:18, flags:0x3 G 640x350x4, 4 plane(s), font:8x14, win:0xa0000 video#0: mode:26, flags:0x3 G 640x480x4, 4 plane(s), font:8x16, win:0xa0000 video#0: mode:27, flags:0x3 G 640x480x4, 4 plane(s), font:8x16, win:0xa0000 video#0: mode:28, flags:0x3 G 320x200x8, 1 plane(s), font:8x8, win:0xa0000 video#0: mode:37, flags:0x3 G 320x240x8, 1 plane(s), font:8x8, win:0xa0000 VGA parameters upon power-up 50 18 10 00 00 00 03 00 02 67 5f 4f 50 82 55 81 bf 1f 00 4f 0e 0f 00 00 07 80 9c 8e 8f 28 1f 96 b9 a3 ff 00 01 02 03 04 05 14 07 38 39 3a 3b 3c 3d 3e 3f 0c 00 0f 08 00 00 00 00 00 10 0e 00 ff VGA parameters in BIOS for mode 24 50 18 10 00 10 00 03 00 02 67 5f 4f 50 82 55 81 bf 1f 00 4f 0d 0e 00 00 00 00 9c 8e 8f 28 1f 96 b9 a3 ff 00 01 02 03 04 05 14 07 38 39 3a 3b 3c 3d 3e 3f 0c 00 0f 08 00 00 00 00 00 10 0e 00 ff EGA/VGA parameters to be used for mode 24 50 18 10 00 10 00 03 00 02 67 5f 4f 50 82 55 81 bf 1f 00 4f 0d 0e 00 00 00 00 9c 8e 8f 28 1f 96 b9 a3 ff 00 01 02 03 04 05 14 07 38 39 3a 3b 3c 3d 3e 3f 0c 00 0f 08 00 00 00 00 00 10 0e 00 ff sc0: the current keyboard controller command byte 0047 kbdio: DIAGNOSE status:0055 kbdio: TEST_KBD_PORT status:0000 kbdio: RESET_KBD return code:00fa kbdio: RESET_KBD status:00aa sc0: keyboard device ID: ab41 sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> sio0: irq maps: 0x1 0x11 0x1 0x1 sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1: irq maps: 0x1 0x21 0x1 0x1 sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 5 on isa sio1: type 16550A sio2: disabled, not probed. sio3: disabled, not probed. psm0: current command byte:0047 kbdio: TEST_AUX_PORT status:0002 kbdio: DIAGNOSE status:0055 kbdio: TEST_KBD_PORT status:0000 psm0: the aux port is not functioning (2). psm0 not found at 0x60 pcm0 not probed due to drq conflict with pcm1 at 1 ppc: parallel port found at 0x378 ppc0: ppc0 at 0x378 irq 7 flags 0x4 on isa ppc0: Generic chipset (EPP-only) in EPP mode (EPP 1.9) nlpt0: on ppbus 0 nlpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus 0 lppps0: on ppbus 0 vpo0: on ppbus 0 vpo0: EPP 1.9 mode plip: irq 7 plip0: on ppbus 0 fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): wd0: 6149MB (12594960 sectors), 13328 cyls, 15 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wd0: ATA INQUIRE valid = 0007, dmamword = 0007, apio = 0003, udma = 0407 wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa wdc1: unit 0 (atapi): , removable, intr, dma, iordis acd0: drive speed 689 - 4134KB/sec, 256KB cache acd0: supported read types: CD-R, CD-RW, CD-DA, packet track acd0: Audio: play, 255 volume levels acd0: Mechanism: ejectable tray acd0: Medium: CD-RW 120mm photo disc loaded, unlocked wdc1: unit 1 (atapi): , removable, dma, iordy acd1: drive speed 344 - 1034KB/sec, 1024KB cache acd1: supported read types: CD-R, CD-RW, CD-DA, packet track acd1: supported write types: CD-R, CD-RW, test write acd1: Audio: play, 128 volume levels acd1: Mechanism: ejectable tray acd1: Medium: no/blank disc inside, unlocked, lock protected npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface i586_bzero() bandwidth = 354484225 bytes/sec bzero() bandwidth = 545256270 bytes/sec apm0: disabled, not probed. imasks: bio c008c040, tty c00702b2, net c00702b2 BIOS Geometries: 0:00000000 0..0=1 cylinders, 0..0=1 heads, 1..0=0 sectors 1:00000000 0..0=1 cylinders, 0..0=1 heads, 1..0=0 sectors 2:00000000 0..0=1 cylinders, 0..0=1 heads, 1..0=0 sectors 3:00000000 0..0=1 cylinders, 0..0=1 heads, 1..0=0 sectors 4:00000000 0..0=1 cylinders, 0..0=1 heads, 1..0=0 sectors 5:00000000 0..0=1 cylinders, 0..0=1 heads, 1..0=0 sectors 6:00000000 0..0=1 cylinders, 0..0=1 heads, 1..0=0 sectors 7:00000000 0..0=1 cylinders, 0..0=1 heads, 1..0=0 sectors 0 accounted for Device configuration finished. new masks: bio c008c040, tty c00702b2, net c00702b2 Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle (probe0:vpo0:0:6:0): INQUIRY. CDB: 12 1 80 0 ff 0 (probe0:vpo0:0:6:0): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:24,0 (probe0:vpo0:0:6:0): Invalid field in CDB da0 at vpo0 bus 0 target 6 lun 0 da0: Removable Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: 96MB (196608 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 96C) Considering FFS root f/s. changing root device to wd0s2a wd0s1: type 0xb, start 63, end = 8112824, size 8112762 : OK wd0s2: type 0xa5, start 10104885, end = 12594959, size 2490075 : OK wd0s3: type 0xa5, start 8112825, end = 10104884, size 1992060 : OK Linux-ELF exec handler installed ******************END DMESG OUTPUT********************************* --- | Stephen L. Palmer | Sprint Paranet slpalmer@netscape.net \|/ slpalmer@sprintparanet.com "There are thousands of intelligent species in the Universe, and they all own cats." -Unknown ____________________________________________________________________ More than just email--Get your FREE Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/netcenter/mail To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 18:49:41 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA13798 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 18:49:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from alcanet.com.au (border.alcanet.com.au [203.62.196.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA13789 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 18:49:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter.jeremy@auss2.alcatel.com.au) Received: by border.alcanet.com.au id <40322>; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 13:48:12 +1100 Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 13:48:51 +1100 From: Peter Jeremy Subject: Re: Boot.flp doesn't To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Message-Id: <99Jan12.134812est.40322@border.alcanet.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I wrote: [use make 'COPTFLAGS=-O -malign-loops=0 -malign-jumps=0 -malign-functions=0 -fomit-frame-pointer' to shrink the kernel] I just tried this with a 3.0-RELEASE GENERIC kernel. Unfortunately, the text space only shrunk by 3000 bytes :-(. I would have expected quite a bit more. [One problem is that the text space within object files is padded to a 16-byte boundary - this is probably worth ~2.5K, but can't be recovered using the standard toolchain AFAIK]. There is, however ~130K of text strings in the kernel - 3-4K of which is duplicate. Maybe we need to look at how much of this is necessary. Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 19:21:50 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA16928 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 19:21:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from eddie.silk.net (eddie.silk.net [204.244.76.245]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA16920 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 19:21:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eddie@silk.net) Received: from localhost (eddie@localhost) by eddie.silk.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA04828 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 19:30:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eddie@silk.net) X-Authentication-Warning: eddie.silk.net: eddie owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 19:30:32 -0800 (PST) From: Eddie Lawhead To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: 3.0R--> -current. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello All! I am just about to make the move from 3.0 Release to -Current. What sort of things can I expect? Does anyone have some good ideas on preparations I should make? I have read and printed out the "Making the World" tutorial....I am just looking for -current specific information. Thanks in advance, Eddie =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Eddie H. Lawhead FreeBSD: The Power To Serve Kelowna, BC, Canada http://www.FreeBSD.org eddie@silk.net http://www.Silk.net ---------------------------------------------------- | Silk Internet: Your Smooth Connection To The Net | ----------------------------------------------------- =-=-=-=-=-=-= Enriched, V-Card, HTML Messages > /dev/null =-=-=-=-=-=-= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 19:23:42 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA17281 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 19:23:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from octopus.originative.co.uk (originat.demon.co.uk [158.152.220.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA17276 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 19:23:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from paul@originative.co.uk) Received: by OCTOPUS with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 19:01:44 -0000 Message-ID: From: Paul Richards To: "'Mike Smith'" , "Carlos C. Tapang" Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: aout-to-elf and bootblocks Success Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 19:01:43 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Smith [mailto:mike@smith.net.au] > Sent: Monday, January 04, 1999 12:43 AM > To: Carlos C. Tapang > Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: aout-to-elf and bootblocks Success > > > > >1. Upgrade to the latest -current > > > cvsup > > > make world > > > Note: I used make -DNOGAMES -DNOPERL world to save time and > > > to get around a missing gv.h. I will look for this > > > when I do the last make world. > > > > Another note: make sure you already have Perl installed. If > you don't, and > > you use NOPERL, then compilation of ficl fails. > > We've had requests to deal with this; I'm trying to come up with a > workaround, as there are a couple of places at the moment where the > bootstrap really needs Perl around (generating the helpfile > is another > one). I've got mixed feelings about this. Perl is so damn useful that it seems restrictive to not be able to use it as part of the core of FreeBSD. I think we should accept it as part of our arsenal of tools and not try and make it an optional part of the system. In all seriousness, I'd rather see awk, sed and even sh be consigned to the dustbin of history and have Perl replace them than continue with the attitude that Perl is optional bloat. Anyone for replacing /etc with perl scripts :-) Paul. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 19:39:27 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA18908 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 19:39:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp1.tig.com.au (stress.tig.com.au [209.76.102.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA18900 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 19:39:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sasha@earthling.net) Received: from p49-max33.syd.ihug.com.au (p49-max33.syd.ihug.com.au [209.233.58.240]) by smtp1.tig.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA28983; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 14:38:22 +1100 Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 14:37:13 +1100 (EST) From: Sasha Case X-Sender: sasha@localhost Reply-To: sasha@earthling.net To: Kazutaka YOKOTA cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Splash crash In-Reply-To: <199901120117.KAA29737@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 12 Jan 1999, Kazutaka YOKOTA wrote: > Um, yes, there is another possibility of error. If the video driver > finds it unable to switch video modes on your video card, > splash_bmp.ko will fail too. Run the `dmesg' command and see if it > shows something like "...video mode switching is only partially > supported..." among boot messages. There is no fix for this at the > moment. Sorry. Is this the same reason why rain_saver.ko and warp_saver.ko return error 19 when I try to load them? I get the "video mode switching is only partially supported..." message on bootup, and can't get splash_bmp to work (same problem). logo_saver seems to work, 'though. /r To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 19:40:41 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA19160 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 19:40:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fw.bby.com.au (ns.bby.com.au [192.83.119.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA19137 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 19:40:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by fw.bby.com.au (8.8.8/8.6.9) id OAA08820; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 14:39:51 +1100 (EST) Received: from melba.bby.com.au(192.43.186.1) via SMTP by fw.bby.com.au, id smtpd008818; Tue Jan 12 03:39:41 1999 Received: from lightning.itga.com.au (lightning.itga.com.au [192.168.71.20]) by melba.bby.com.au (8.8.2/8.8.2) with ESMTP id OAA18911; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 14:39:40 +1100 (EST) Received: from lightning (lightning [192.168.71.20]) by lightning.itga.com.au (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA22664; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 14:39:37 +1100 (EST) Message-Id: <199901120339.OAA22664@lightning.itga.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 From: Gregory Bond To: Eddie Lawhead Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3.0R--> -current. In-reply-to: Your message of Mon, 11 Jan 1999 19:30:32 -0800. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 14:39:37 +1100 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I am just about to make the move from 3.0 Release to -Current. What > sort of things can I expect? Warner Losh is maintaining a file (/usr/src/UPDATING) that is distributed via cvsup that has most of the pointers you need, in the similar way to the Release ERRATA files. Greg. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 19:43:39 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA19503 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 19:43:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from drama.navinet.net (drama.navinet.net [206.25.93.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA19497 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 19:43:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from forrie@drama.navinet.net) Received: (from forrie@localhost) by drama.navinet.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) id WAA05906 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 22:42:56 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 22:42:56 -0500 From: Forrest Aldrich To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ELF kernel success Message-ID: <19990111224256.G3943@drama.navinet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Just FYI, I followed through and updated to the ELF kernel, including a disklabel -B ... without any problems. It complained about a missing /boot/boot.conf. And it's not clear to me if the -P switches et al apply here. The directions/instructions could be made more succinct after this is standardized. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 20:03:34 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA20885 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 20:03:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.196.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA20880 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 20:03:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (IDENT:xIZUqOsng6khGzlhJS3JSn8zm/n5QQ2l@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA05845; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 13:02:49 +0900 (JST) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.7.6+2.6Wbeta7/3.4W/zodiac-May96) with ESMTP id NAA06417; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 13:05:16 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199901120405.NAA06417@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> To: sasha@earthling.net cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp Subject: Re: Splash crash In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 12 Jan 1999 14:37:13 +1100." References: Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 13:05:15 +0900 From: Kazutaka YOKOTA Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >> Um, yes, there is another possibility of error. If the video driver >> finds it unable to switch video modes on your video card, >> splash_bmp.ko will fail too. Run the `dmesg' command and see if it >> shows something like "...video mode switching is only partially >> supported..." among boot messages. There is no fix for this at the >> moment. Sorry. > >Is this the same reason why rain_saver.ko and warp_saver.ko return error >19 when I try to load them? I get the "video mode switching is only >partially supported..." message on bootup, and can't get splash_bmp to >work (same problem). logo_saver seems to work, 'though. Yes. I am afraid that is exactly the cause of the problem. syscons and the new vga driver have had this problem for some time now. They don't understand the format of the BIOS video parameter table on some video cards. This is a compatibility problem. I have been thinking of fixing this by using BIOS call via VM86 lately... Kazu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 20:37:19 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA24519 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 20:37:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles165.castles.com [208.214.165.165]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA24512 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 20:37:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA00487; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 20:33:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199901120433.UAA00487@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Tugrul cc: Alfred Perlstein , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Booting FreeBSD beyond the 1024th cylinder In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 11 Jan 1999 16:37:21 EST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 20:33:25 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > have you tried the newer boot blocks? i think you can do what you were > > able to do in linux with the freebsd newer blocks. > > None of the boot blocks understand what a elf kernel is afaik. Any Really? > The booting tools in general need a major update for elf, I wish I > knew how to help :/ You can go to /sys/boot and start offering patches and suggestions on the quite functional ELF-supporting boot tools that you find there. Patches are, of course, preferred to suggestions. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 20:50:19 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA25264 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 20:50:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles165.castles.com [208.214.165.165]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA25259 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 20:50:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA00558; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 20:46:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199901120446.UAA00558@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Daniel Eischen cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: XiG Motif - FreeBSD ELF In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 11 Jan 1999 19:10:12 EST." <199901120010.TAA14807@pcnet1.pcnet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 20:46:38 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > I sent an Email off to Xig inquiring about a FreeBSD ELF version of > the Accelerated X server and Motif. The response was: > > > Dan, > > Unfortunately, we don't yet support ELF, and we haven't decided > > yet if we're going to. I will let engineering know that you would > > like support for 3.0, but I can't promise that we'll be supporting it. > > I apologize for the inconvenience. > > If others, like me, would really like an ELF version of Motif and the > Accelerated X server, please send your requests to Xig (sales@xig.com). > > Feel free to re-post this to another list if -current isn't deemed > appropriate. ELF Motif for FreeBSD is already available from an alternative source. I suggest you vote with your cash by heading on over to www.apps2go.com. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 20:53:13 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA25593 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 20:53:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pcnet1.pcnet.com (pcnet1.pcnet.com [204.213.232.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA25583 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 20:53:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eischen@vigrid.com) Received: (from eischen@localhost) by pcnet1.pcnet.com (8.8.7/PCNet) id XAA13994; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 23:52:10 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 23:52:10 -0500 (EST) From: Daniel Eischen Message-Id: <199901120452.XAA13994@pcnet1.pcnet.com> To: eischen@vigrid.com, mike@smith.net.au Subject: Re: XiG Motif - FreeBSD ELF Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > ELF Motif for FreeBSD is already available from an alternative source. > I suggest you vote with your cash by heading on over to www.apps2go.com. In the voice of Ed McMahon: "I did not know that". Thanks, I will. Dan Eischen eischen@vigrid.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 20:54:27 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA25814 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 20:54:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nomad.dataplex.net (nomad.dataplex.net [208.2.87.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA25806 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 20:54:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rkw@nomad.dataplex.net) Received: from localhost (rkw@localhost) by nomad.dataplex.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA39260; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 08:49:44 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from rkw@nomad.dataplex.net) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 08:49:44 -0600 (CST) From: Richard Wackerbarth To: Jeremy Lea cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: State of the union, 1999. In-Reply-To: <19990111144906.A3187@shale.csir.co.za> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 11 Jan 1999, Jeremy Lea wrote: > Hi, > > On Sat, Jan 09, 1999 at 10:47:50PM -0800, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > Release numbering: > > Probably already covered, but I wanted to say that you should make a big > deal of this when it comes to people following branches. > > If people think that the 3.0->3.1 jump is the same as say the 2.1->2.2 jump, > then there will be a big demand for a larger number of -stable branches. So > you need to make them aware that there will now be one -stable branch for > each major number. > And, for this reason, I again recommend that we drop the "-stable" and "-current" designations on the branches and simply call them by their branch number. "stable", "current", and "development" could then become symbolic links to the most latest branch which has reached the status. Remember that the 3. branch cannot become stable until some time AFTER the developers quit doing major changes to it. Therefore there will be a limbo period where the cutting edge folks are working on 4.0 stuff but 3.x has not settled enough to warrant the "stable" label. IMHO, "current" would be an appropriate label for this status. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 21:03:25 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA26329 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 21:03:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from poboxer.pobox.com (port7.prairietech.net [208.141.230.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA26319 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 21:03:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from alk@poboxer.pobox.com) Received: (from alk@localhost) by poboxer.pobox.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA01754; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 23:01:07 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from alk) From: Tony Kimball MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 23:01:02 -0600 (CST) X-Face: \h9Jg:Cuivl4S*UP-)gO.6O=T]]@ncM*tn4zG);)lk#4|lqEx=*talx?.Gk,dMQU2)ptPC17cpBzm(l'M|H8BUF1&]dDCxZ.c~Wy6-j,^V1E(NtX$FpkkdnJixsJHE95JlhO 5\M3jh'YiO7KPCn0~W`Ro44_TB@&JuuqRqgPL'0/{):7rU-%.*@/>q?1&Ed Reply-To: alk@pobox.com To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: more psm problems, and an ide thingy X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <13978.54629.887665.309144@avalon.east> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG FYI, and a propos of the other recent mail on this subject, I got this on my mode 0 mouse today: Jan 11 16:18:59 avalon /kernel: psmintr: out of sync (0080 != 0000). and then it stopped working until reboot. On another subject, I'm getting an increasing number of these: Jan 11 20:41:37 avalon /kernel: wd2: interrupt timeout (status 50 error 0) Jan 11 20:41:37 avalon /kernel: wd2: wdtimeout() DMA status 1 I will assume the device is just bad, and replace it, but this is a new failure mode to me -- I've never seen this sort of behaviour for failing IDE drives in the past. In this case, the I/O always completes *eventually* -- which seems suspiciously like a driver bug. Here's the device boot info: Jan 11 11:38:45 avalon /kernel: wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 flags 0xa0ffa0ff on isa Jan 11 11:38:45 avalon /kernel: wdc1: unit 0 (wd2): , DMA, 32-bit, multi-block-16 Jan 11 11:38:45 avalon /kernel: wd2: 6149MB (12594960 sectors), 13328 cyls, 15 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 21:26:09 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA28200 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 21:26:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mired.eh.local (kstreet.interlog.com [198.53.146.171]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA28190 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 21:26:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from street@iname.com) Received: (from kws@localhost) by mired.eh.local (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA04601; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 00:24:15 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from kws) From: Kevin Street MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <13978.56447.856338.251015@mired.eh.local> Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 00:24:15 -0500 (EST) To: Kazutaka YOKOTA Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Splash crash In-Reply-To: <199901120117.KAA29737@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> References: <87ogo5wdcn.fsf@mired.eh.local> <199901120117.KAA29737@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> X-Mailer: VM 6.63 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kazutaka YOKOTA writes: > >>Any idea what's causing this? >> >>Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xf0285000. >>Preloaded userconfig_script "/boot/kernel.config" at 0xf028509c. >>Preloaded splash_image_data "/boot/sandstone.bmp" at 0xf02850ec. >>Preloaded elf module "splash_bmp.ko" at 0xf028513c. >>module_register_init: module_register(splash_bmp, f0281570, 0) error 19 > >I expect your kernel is not actually panicing or crashing. You just >don't see the BMP file displayed, right? Correct. Sorry, didn't mean to imply by my subject line that the kernel was actually crashing. >The current version of splash_bmp.ko is very limited. The color depth >must be 8 bpp (256 color), and the size must be 320x200 or smaller. >If your BMP file doesn't satisfy these conditions, splash_bmp.ko will >return error 19 (ENODEV). These restriction may be relaxed in the >future (no delivery date is promised, though). I sprinkled some printf's around and it appears that my .bmp is strange. I saved it in Windows as a 256 colour format, but splash_bmp seems to think it has 512. I'm puzzled by the `2' in here (from bmp_Init) though: bmp_info.ncols = 2 << bmf->bmfi.bmiHeader.biBitCount; but I don't know what biBitCount really means. Changing it to a `1' in hopes that it was a typo gets rid of the error message, but doesn't get me a splash screen. My .bmp probably really is wrong. Does anyone have a known good .bmp that I can test with? A pointer to one on a standard Windows 98 install would be fine. -- Kevin Street street@iName.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 21:48:19 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA29612 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 21:48:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from widefw.csl.sony.co.jp (widefw.csl.sony.co.jp [133.138.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA29604 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 21:48:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kjc@csl.sony.co.jp) Received: from hotaka.csl.sony.co.jp (root@hotaka.csl.sony.co.jp [43.27.98.57]) by widefw.csl.sony.co.jp (8.8.8/3.6W) with ESMTP id OAA00664 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 14:47:38 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (kjc@[127.0.0.1]) by hotaka.csl.sony.co.jp (8.8.8/3.6W/hotaka/98122515) with ESMTP id OAA08014 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 14:47:37 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199901120547.OAA08014@hotaka.csl.sony.co.jp> To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: HZ missing in options? Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 14:47:36 +0900 From: Kenjiro Cho Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is there any reason why HZ isn't listed in sys/conf/options? Or just an oversight? If so, I'll add the following line. --Kenjiro --- options- Tue Jan 12 14:12:42 1999 +++ options Tue Jan 12 14:13:22 1999 @@ -124,6 +124,7 @@ UNION # Options used only in param.c. +HZ opt_param.h MAXUSERS opt_param.h MSGMNB opt_param.h MSGMNI opt_param.h To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 21:52:21 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA00214 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 21:52:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from st-lcremean.tidalwave.net (host-e186.tidalwave.net [208.213.203.186] (may be forged)) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA00167 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 21:51:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lee@st-lcremean.tidalwave.net) Received: (from lee@localhost) by st-lcremean.tidalwave.net (8.9.1/8.8.8) id AAA68888; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 00:49:45 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from lee) Message-ID: <19990112004945.A68879@tidalwave.net> Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 00:49:45 -0500 From: Lee Cremeans To: Andrew Atrens Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: potential ide_pci.c bugster Reply-To: lcremean@tidalwave.net References: <19990111161251.A63501@tidalwave.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: ; from Andrew Atrens on Tue, Jan 12, 1999 at 12:18:27AM -0500 X-OS: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT X-Evil: microsoft.com Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Jan 12, 1999 at 12:18:27AM -0500, Andrew Atrens wrote: > > Lee, > > Around the middle of December you (actually Mike on behalf of you) > committed a patch to pci_ide.c which has since been hosing my system: [snip] > With this commit, my system freezes on boot with DMA timeout messages when > it tries to mount root on wd1. It's a total showstopper. > > I disabled DMA (ala wdc0 flags) and everything worked, though of course > more slowly. :) So, instead I chose to back out your change, and wait to > see if anyone else fell in the pit. Since the mailing list seems to be > pretty silent on the topic, maybe it's just me :) ... > > I've got an ABIT motherboard with TX chipset, bussed at 83MHz, that seems ^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^ There's the problem. UDMA drives tend to be very finicky about their timing, and since their timing is derived from the system PCI clock, overclocking to 83 MHz makes the frequency on the cable 41.5 MHz -- which your Quantum EL drive (and also my Seagate Medalist Pro 9140, for that matter) chokes on. The only thing you can really do to get reliable UDMA is to downclock...first 75, then 66 MHz. The bigger problem, though, is that ide_pci is a little too gung-ho about UDMA...if it sees a drive that supports it, it'll go ahead and set it up, totally unaware of any bus-speed issues, and with no way to tell it to use a lesser DMA mode. I'm going to ask on -current about adding a flag to force off UDMA on certain units, making them fall back to multiword DMA 2 (which is nowhere near as finicky). -- +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Lee Cremeans -- Manassas, VA, USA (WakkyMouse on DALnet and WTnet)| | lcremean@tidalwave.net| http://st-lcremean.tidalwave.net/~lee | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 22:05:29 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA01329 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 22:05:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from st-lcremean.tidalwave.net (host-e186.tidalwave.net [208.213.203.186] (may be forged)) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA01323 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 22:05:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lee@st-lcremean.tidalwave.net) Received: (from lee@localhost) by st-lcremean.tidalwave.net (8.9.1/8.8.8) id AAA68908; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 00:52:28 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from lee) Message-ID: <19990112005228.B68879@tidalwave.net> Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 00:52:28 -0500 From: Lee Cremeans To: alk@pobox.com Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: more psm problems, and an ide thingy Reply-To: lcremean@tidalwave.net References: <13978.54629.887665.309144@avalon.east> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <13978.54629.887665.309144@avalon.east>; from Tony Kimball on Mon, Jan 11, 1999 at 11:01:02PM -0600 X-OS: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT X-Evil: microsoft.com Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jan 11, 1999 at 11:01:02PM -0600, Tony Kimball wrote: > > FYI, and a propos of the other recent mail on this subject, > I got this on my mode 0 mouse today: > Jan 11 16:18:59 avalon /kernel: psmintr: out of sync (0080 != 0000). > and then it stopped working until reboot. > > On another subject, I'm getting an increasing number of these: > Jan 11 20:41:37 avalon /kernel: wd2: interrupt timeout (status 50 error 0) > Jan 11 20:41:37 avalon /kernel: wd2: wdtimeout() DMA status 1 > > I will assume the device is just bad, and replace it, but this is a > new failure mode to me -- I've never seen this sort of behaviour for > failing IDE drives in the past. In this case, the I/O always > completes *eventually* -- which seems suspiciously like a driver bug. > > Here's the device boot info: > Jan 11 11:38:45 avalon /kernel: wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 flags 0xa0ffa0ff on isa > Jan 11 11:38:45 avalon /kernel: wdc1: unit 0 (wd2): , DMA, 32-bit, multi-block-16 > Jan 11 11:38:45 avalon /kernel: wd2: 6149MB (12594960 sectors), 13328 cyls, 15 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S Oh dear, the UDMA interrupt bugs strike again...what speed is your PCI bus running at? -- +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Lee Cremeans -- Manassas, VA, USA (WakkyMouse on DALnet and WTnet)| | lcremean@tidalwave.net| http://st-lcremean.tidalwave.net/~lee | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 22:07:24 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA01645 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 22:07:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za [146.64.24.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA01638 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 22:07:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhay@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za) Received: (from jhay@localhost) by zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA20136; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 08:06:32 +0200 (SAT) From: John Hay Message-Id: <199901120606.IAA20136@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za> Subject: Re: /usr/obj/elf, /usr/obj/aout, /usr/obj - breaks make all vs make buildworld, and other things. Time to make elf the default ? In-Reply-To: <199901111822.KAA96566@apollo.backplane.com> from Matthew Dillon at "Jan 11, 99 10:22:33 am" To: dillon@apollo.backplane.com (Matthew Dillon) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 08:06:31 +0200 (SAT) Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > If I do a 'make buildworld', the object tree is created in /usr/obj/elf > rather then /usr/obj. > > If I then want to make the world again, but without cleaning anything, > 'make' alone will not work. Instead, 'make -DNOCLEAN -DNOTOOLS' must be > used. ... > > Now, I realize that if you cd somewhere deep into /usr/src and type make, > it will not use the correct obj tree either. So the question is, is it > time to make elf the default ( i.e. /usr/obj ) and just special case > a.out ( i.e. /usr/obj/a.out ) ???? > > My personal opinion is: yes, ELF should now be the default without any > OBJFORMAT munging. It would be relatively simple to have the top level > make check whether the user's machine is ELF or not, and to only allow > the user to ( at this point ) convert his machine from a.out to elf before > the user is allowed to compile random source. I also think that now that elf is the default, it should live in /usr/obj/... I have a patch that I'm testing to do this. It passed the make world test, but I also wanted to make sure make release won't break with it, but make release was broken a bit the last day or so. It still use the aout directory for the aout case, but use the plain /usr/obj in the elf case. The only drawback is that people with a /usr/obj/elf directory will have to remove it themselves or maybe if people feel strong enough about it, we can add something to the world target to remove it if it still exists? John -- John Hay -- John.Hay@mikom.csir.co.za --- Makefile.inc0.org Mon Dec 21 10:30:44 1998 +++ Makefile.inc0 Mon Jan 11 14:32:31 1999 @@ -18,7 +18,9 @@ # Variables passed to make work better if they are set as environment # variables instead of command line options. # +.if ${MACHINE_ARCH} == "i386" && ${OBJFORMAT} == "aout" MK_ENV= MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=${MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX}/${OBJFORMAT} +.endif # # We should always use the current set of mk files, not the installed ones. @@ -51,7 +53,7 @@ # # Temporary path and environment for the legacy build. # -ELFTMP= ${MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX}/elf${.CURDIR}/tmp +ELFTMP= ${MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX}${.CURDIR}/tmp ELFTMPPATH= ${ELFTMP}/sbin:${ELFTMP}/bin:${ELFTMP}/usr/sbin:${ELFTMP}/usr/bin:${ELFTMP}/usr/games LEGACY_ENV= PATH=${ELFTMPPATH} OBJFORMAT=aout NOTOOLS=1 TOOLROOT=${ELFTMP} \ MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=${MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX}/aout To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 22:27:21 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA03556 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 22:27:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA03545 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 22:27:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN) id PAA04940; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 15:26:00 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <369AEAE9.3D0B65F2@newsguy.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 15:25:45 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brian Feldman CC: Andrzej Bialecki , Mike Smith , John Hay , dfr@nlsystems.com, jkh@zippy.cdrom.com, jwd@unx.sas.com, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Boot.flp doesn't References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Brian Feldman wrote: > > Why don't we just make more floppies? bootcd.flp, bootnet.flp, bootnfs.flp, > bootks.flp.... The floppy generation process could be pretty easily changed. > More floppies is pretty modular, anyway, without the need for using actual > KLDs :) Not a good idea... The CGI thing was very cool, though. :-) -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com If you sell your soul to the Devil and all you get is an MCSE from it, you haven't gotten market rate. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 22:36:37 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA04491 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 22:36:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles165.castles.com [208.214.165.165]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA04486 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 22:36:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA01046; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 22:32:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199901120632.WAA01046@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Tugrul cc: Robert Nordier , axl@iafrica.com, bright@hotjobs.com, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Booting FreeBSD beyond the 1024th cylinder In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 11 Jan 1999 21:16:43 EST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 22:32:27 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > > As regards the cylinder > 1023 issue, you can save yourself some > > time by regarding the above information as definitive. > > > > All the current booting tools (see src/sys/boot) do support both > > a.out and ELF. This applies both to the bootblocks (boot1 and > > boot2) and to /boot/loader. > > I think I poorly worded what I meant to say earlier... nothing in > sys/i386/boot seems to work with elf. That's correct; the entire contents of sys/i386/boot are obsolete. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 23:00:20 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA07120 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 23:00:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.196.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA07115 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 23:00:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (IDENT:V6suHyyVyqRYYtaT2/piNyflKf+PCAa9@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA06620 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 15:59:40 +0900 (JST) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.7.6+2.6Wbeta7/3.4W/zodiac-May96) with ESMTP id QAA12243; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 16:00:03 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199901120700.QAA12243@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> To: alk@pobox.com cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp Subject: Re: more psm problems, and an ide thingy In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 11 Jan 1999 23:01:02 CST." <13978.54629.887665.309144@avalon.east> References: <13978.54629.887665.309144@avalon.east> Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 15:59:58 +0900 From: Kazutaka YOKOTA Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >FYI, and a propos of the other recent mail on this subject, >I got this on my mode 0 mouse today: ~~~~~~~~~~~~ What mouse is this? > Jan 11 16:18:59 avalon /kernel: psmintr: out of sync (0080 != 0000). Did you see just one error message? "out of sync" error may often repeat. >and then it stopped working until reboot. What exactly happened? Does the mouse pointer didn't move at all? Or, it moved erratically (i.e. jumped around on the screen)? When "out of sync" error occurs repeatedly, the mouse pointer often jumps around; but it still indicates that the mouse is sending something to the system and the mouse driver is getting them. Kazu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 23:01:41 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA07365 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 23:01:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.196.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA07357 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 23:01:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (IDENT:XnY/02GLp1Hnf+dv9ZuxH1TJFNnhMUSQ@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA06921; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 16:00:49 +0900 (JST) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.7.6+2.6Wbeta7/3.4W/zodiac-May96) with ESMTP id PAA11303; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 15:25:38 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199901120625.PAA11303@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> To: Kevin Street cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp Subject: Re: Splash crash In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 12 Jan 1999 00:24:15 EST." <13978.56447.856338.251015@mired.eh.local> References: <87ogo5wdcn.fsf@mired.eh.local> <199901120117.KAA29737@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> <13978.56447.856338.251015@mired.eh.local> Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 15:25:37 +0900 From: Kazutaka YOKOTA Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >I sprinkled some printf's around and it appears that my .bmp is >strange. I saved it in Windows as a 256 colour format, but splash_bmp >seems to think it has 512. > >I'm puzzled by the `2' in here (from bmp_Init) though: > bmp_info.ncols = 2 << bmf->bmfi.bmiHeader.biBitCount; Yes, this is indeed a typo! Thank you for spotting! >but I don't know what biBitCount really means. Changing it to a `1' >in hopes that it was a typo gets rid of the error message, but doesn't >get me a splash screen. My .bmp probably really is wrong. Hmm, Would you show me the first few lines from the dump of the file? hd _your_bmp_file_ | head -20 Kazu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 11 23:43:02 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA11563 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 23:43:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA11555 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 23:43:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dom@myrddin.demon.co.uk) Received: from [158.152.54.180] (helo=myrddin.demon.co.uk) by post.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.10 #2) id 0zzyT4-0003jx-00; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 07:42:26 +0000 Received: from localhost (myrddin.demon.co.uk) [127.0.0.1] by myrddin.demon.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #1) id 0zzyGJ-0000PV-00; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 07:29:15 +0000 To: Christopher Masto Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: New Pkg System (Re: State of the union, 1999. ) References: <199901110416.UAA13553@rah.star-gate.com> <19990111140102.A25698@netmonger.net> From: Dom Mitchell In-Reply-To: Christopher Masto's message of "Mon, 11 Jan 1999 14:01:02 -0500" X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/XEmacs 20.4 - "Emerald" Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 07:29:15 +0000 Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Christopher Masto writes: > On Mon, Jan 11, 1999 at 07:49:35AM +0000, Dom Mitchell wrote: > > However, you would have to bring in a fair amount of XML related > > software into the tree. Given that Unix is traditionally a > > text-processing system, I personally think that this would be a step > > forward. I'd love to have XML stuff in the base system that I can > > use. easily. But, to bring that much code in *just* for the packages > > mechanism is probably overkill. You'd need to start using it > > elsewhere to really pay off. > > But XML is small. What's a "fair amount"? I would think the basics > are covered by a (doesn't have to be validating) XML parser library > that the package system can link with. I seem to have something like > that on my system (required for GNOME): > > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 72658 Jan 8 16:29 /usr/local/lib/libxml.a > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 73154 Jan 8 16:29 /usr/local/lib/libxml.so.0 > > I'm sure there are even smaller implementations available. My apologies. I wasn't aware that it was such a small implementation. I would be interested to see such stuff being brought in, in that case. -- When I said "we", officer, I was referring to myself, the four young ladies, and, of course, the goat. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 00:17:00 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA14493 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 00:17:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from doriath.saers.com ([194.248.7.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA14487 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 00:16:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from berenmls@saers.com) Received: from niklas (karon.elanders.no [194.143.3.10]) by doriath.saers.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA22753 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 09:16:23 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from berenmls@saers.com) Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19990112092216.014d3d30@pop.saers.com> X-Sender: berenmls@pop.saers.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.2 (32) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 09:22:16 +0100 To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG From: Niklas Saers In-Reply-To: <199901120625.PAA11303@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> References: <87ogo5wdcn.fsf@mired.eh.local> <199901120117.KAA29737@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> <13978.56447.856338.251015@mired.eh.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi. I've just cvsup'ed 3.0-RELEASE and I try to build the imap-uw-port. However, at a make install clean I get: "Makefile", line 26: Could not find bsd.port.pre.mk "Makefile", line 28: Malformed conditional (${PORTOBJFORMAT} == "aout") "Makefile", line 28: Need an operator "Makefile", line 30: if-less endif "Makefile", line 30: Need an operator "Makefile", line 54: Could not find bsd.port.post.mk make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue Any ideas why? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 00:23:31 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA15094 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 00:23:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from axl.noc.iafrica.com (axl.noc.iafrica.com [196.31.1.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA15086 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 00:23:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sheldonh@axl.noc.iafrica.com) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.noc.iafrica.com) by axl.noc.iafrica.com with local-esmtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 0zzz5C-0002uY-00; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 10:21:50 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: Niklas Saers cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 12 Jan 1999 09:22:16 +0100." <3.0.2.32.19990112092216.014d3d30@pop.saers.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 10:21:50 +0200 Message-ID: <11193.916129310@axl.noc.iafrica.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 12 Jan 1999 09:22:16 +0100, Niklas Saers wrote: > Hi. I've just cvsup'ed 3.0-RELEASE and I try to build the imap-uw-port. > However, at a make install clean I get: > > "Makefile", line 26: Could not find bsd.port.pre.mk The files bsd.port.{pre,post}.mk were added 1998/11/11. If you can't find them in /usr/share/mk, try a ``make install'' in src/share/mk or install ports/misc/30upgrade . Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 00:34:49 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA16314 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 00:34:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from uni-sb.de (uni-sb.de [134.96.252.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA16307 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 00:34:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from netchild@wurzelausix.CS.Uni-SB.DE) Received: from cs.uni-sb.de (cs.uni-sb.de [134.96.252.31]) by uni-sb.de (8.9.2/1999010400) with ESMTP id JAA24312; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 09:33:59 +0100 (CET) Received: from wurzelausix (quadratix.cs.uni-sb.de [134.96.222.2]) by cs.uni-sb.de (8.9.2/1999010400) with ESMTP id JAA19236; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 09:33:59 +0100 (CET) Received: from wurzelausix.cs.uni-sb.de (IDENT:YNTI8OoSzSm3502igWl7+o49ybRc6rl8@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wurzelausix (8.9.1/wjp/19980821) with ESMTP id JAA01847; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 09:33:54 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <199901120833.JAA01847@wurzelausix> Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 09:33:51 +0100 (CET) From: Alexander Leidinger Subject: Re: nlpt & polling mode didn't work To: nsouch@teaser.fr cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19990111204514.59206@breizh.prism.uvsq.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 11 Jan, Nicolas Souchu wrote: > See the handbook for recompiling your kernel. make world implies a new kernel (at least for me [cvsup, buildworld, mergemaster, installworld, kernel], so thats not my problem). >>What about >>options NLPT_DEBUG >>in the kernel, does this show something interesting too? >>I had it turned on on my machine, but I didn't know to interprete the >>messages. > > NLPT_DEBUG is supposed to print debug info needed when the driver was written. > See /sys/dev/ppbus/nlpt.c for the meaning of outputs. You'll have to > had _your_ printfs or change the 3rd party card. Parallel port cards are not > expensive today.. printf is the option I choose, but at the moment the system is in heavy use, so I can't test it immediatly. Bye, Alexander. -- http://netchild.home.pages.de A.Leidinger @ wurzelausix.cs.uni-sb.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 00:37:19 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA16684 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 00:37:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.oeno.com (ns.oeno.com [194.100.99.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA16679 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 00:37:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from will@ns.oeno.com) Received: (qmail 25243 invoked by uid 1001); 12 Jan 1999 08:36:42 -0000 To: John Hay Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Boot.flp doesn't References: <199901111058.MAA00994@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za.newsgate.clinet.fi> From: Ville-Pertti Keinonen Date: 12 Jan 1999 10:35:52 +0200 In-Reply-To: John Hay's message of "11 Jan 1999 13:19:27 +0200" Message-ID: <867lusga6v.fsf@not.oeno.com> Lines: 17 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/XEmacs 20.4 - "Emerald" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG John Hay writes: > That was what I was thinking of. I think ftp installs are much more used > than nfs installs and for that reason nfs could move to the second floppy > and few (I think) people would be impacted. Really? NFS is so much simpler (if it isn't an installation from a public server) that I would expect it to be common. Given a CD and a bunch of machines, some without CD-ROMs, the simplest way to install the machines without CD-ROMs would seem to be mounting the cd on a machine that can, adding /cdrom -ro to /etc/exports and installing over NFS. Of course there are the little bits of work necessary to activate NFS, but starting the daemons (or SIGHUPing mountd if they're already up) is not hard. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 00:41:24 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA17129 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 00:41:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from atlantis.rz.tu-clausthal.de (atlantis.rz.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.1.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA17103 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 00:41:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from infjb@atlantis.rz.tu-clausthal.de) Received: (from infjb@localhost) by atlantis.rz.tu-clausthal.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA16378; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 09:40:41 +0100 (MET) From: "Frank J. Beckmann" To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-to: "Frank J. Beckmann" Subject: syncing disks ... giving up Date: 12 Jan 1999 02:08:40 +0100 Organization: agala naga doron Message-ID: <77e7ao$sar$1@atlantis.rz.tu-clausthal.de> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, until a few days ago I used 3.0-current elf with a.out kernel of early december. Then i updated to a curent current and elf kernel. Since then my disks can't get synced when I do a shutdown. It says "syncing disks..." and the number of busy local buffers goes down to 5 or for, but not below that number. Syncing the disks only succedes in one in about 10 times. Another problem is related to apm. Halting used to switch my ATX mainboard of but that doesn't work anymore. This 2 problems happen with and without SMP enabled. I have also a SMP problem. I get hundreds of silo overflows under load with SMP but I don't get that errors without SMP. Last question is: does rc.shutdown ever get executed? My hardware is an Intel DK440LX with 2 Pentium II 333. Config: # # VOGON -- Intel DK440LX # machine "i386" cpu "I686_CPU" ident VOGON maxusers 64 options "MAXDSIZ=(512*1024*1024)" options "DFLDSIZ=(512*1024*1024)" options PQ_LARGECACHE # color for 512k/16k cache options SMP options APIC_IO options INCLUDE_CONFIG_FILE #Include this file in kernel options INET #InterNETworking options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options NFS #Network Filesystem options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem options "CD9660" #ISO 9660 Filesystem options "CD9660_ROOT" #CD-ROM usable as root device options FFS_ROOT #FFS usable as root device [keep this!] options NFS_ROOT #NFS usable as root device options PROCFS #Process filesystem options KERNFS #Kernel filesystem options MFS #Memory File System options "COMPAT_43" #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] options "SCSI_DELAY=6000" #Be pessimistic about Joe SCSI device options "CAM_MAX_HIGHPOWER=4" options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console options FAILSAFE #Be conservative #options USERCONFIG #boot -c editor #options VISUAL_USERCONFIG #visual boot -c editor options USER_LDT #allow user-level control of i386 ldt options "MD5" options "VM86" options PERFMON #options MROUTING # Multicast routing options IPFIREWALL #firewall options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE #print information about # dropped packets options IPFIREWALL_FORWARD #enable xparent proxy support #options IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT #allow everything by default options IPDIVERT #divert sockets options DUMMYNET options "ICMP_BANDLIM" #options IPFILTER #kernel ipfilter support #options IPFILTER_LOG #ipfilter logging options SC_HISTORY_SIZE=200 # number of history buffer lines options "NSWAPDEV=20" options SOFTUPDATES options CONSPEED=115200 options DDB options SHOW_BUSYBUFS #options "P1003_1B" #options "_KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING" #options "_KPOSIX_VERSION=199309L" config kernel root on da0s1 controller isa0 controller pci0 controller pnp0 controller fdc0 at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio irq 6 drq 2 vector fdintr disk fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 disk fd1 at fdc0 drive 1 #tape ft0 at fdc0 drive 2 options "CMD640" # work around CMD640 chip deficiency controller wdc0 at isa? port "IO_WD1" bio irq 14 vector wdintr disk wd0 at wdc0 drive 0 disk wd1 at wdc0 drive 1 controller wdc1 at isa? port "IO_WD2" bio irq 15 vector wdintr disk wd2 at wdc1 drive 0 disk wd3 at wdc1 drive 1 options ATAPI #Enable ATAPI support for IDE bus options ATAPI_STATIC #Don't do it as an LKM device wcd0 #IDE CD-ROM device wfd0 #IDE Floppy (e.g. LS-120) # A single entry for any of these controllers (ncr, ahb, ahc, amd) is # sufficient for any number of installed devices. #controller ncr0 #controller amd0 #controller ahb0 controller ahc0 controller ahc1 #controller sea0 at isa? bio irq 5 iomem 0xc8000 iosiz 0x2000 vector seaintr controller scbus0 at ahc0 controller scbus1 at ahc1 device da0 device da4 at scbus0 target1 device da5 at scbus1 target5 #device od0 #See LINT for possible `od' options. device sa0 at scbus1 target0 device sa1 at scbus0 target4 device pass0 device pt0 at scbus? device sctarg0 at scbus? device cd0 #Only need one of these, the code dynamically grows # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console device sc0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" tty irq 1 vector scintr # Enable this and PCVT_FREEBSD for pcvt vt220 compatible console driver #device vt0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" tty irq 1 vector pcrint #options XSERVER # support for X server #options FAT_CURSOR # start with block cursor # If you have a ThinkPAD, uncomment this along with the rest of the PCVT lines #options PCVT_SCANSET=2 # IBM keyboards are non-std device npx0 at isa? port "IO_NPX" irq 13 vector npxintr # # Laptop support (see LINT for more options) # device apm0 at isa? # Advanced Power Management # PCCARD (PCMCIA) support #controller card0 #device pcic0 at card? #device pcic1 at card? device sio0 at isa? port "IO_COM1" flags 0x10 tty irq 4 vector siointr device sio1 at isa? port "IO_COM2" tty irq 3 vector siointr device sio2 at isa? disable port "IO_COM3" tty irq 5 vector siointr device sio3 at isa? disable port "IO_COM4" tty irq 9 vector siointr device lpt0 at isa? port? tty irq 7 vector lptintr #device lpt1 at isa? port? tty #device mse0 at isa? port 0x23c tty irq 5 vector mseintr device psm0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" conflicts tty irq 12 vector psmintr # Order is important here due to intrusive probes, do *not* alphabetize # this list of network interfaces until the probes have been fixed. # Right now it appears that the ie0 must be probed before ep0. See # revision 1.20 of this file. device fxp0 pseudo-device loop pseudo-device ether pseudo-device sl 6 pseudo-device ppp 6 options PPP_BSDCOMP #PPP BSD-compress support options PPP_DEFLATE #PPP zlib/deflate/gzip support options PPP_FILTER #enable bpf filtering (needs bpfilter) pseudo-device tun 6 pseudo-device pty 128 pseudo-device gzip # Exec gzipped a.out's pseudo-device bpfilter 4 #Berkeley packet filter pseudo-device speaker #Play IBM BASIC-style noises out your speaker pseudo-device vn #Vnode driver (turns a file into a device) pseudo-device snp 3 #Snoop device - to look at pty/vty/etc.. pseudo-device ccd 4 #Concatenated disk driver # KTRACE enables the system-call tracing facility ktrace(2). # This adds 4 KB bloat to your kernel, and slightly increases # the costs of each syscall. options KTRACE #kernel tracing # This provides support for System V shared memory. # options SYSVSHM options SYSVSEM options SYSVMSG # Luigi's snd code (use INSTEAD of snd0 and all VOXWARE drivers!). # You may also wish to enable the pnp controller with this, for pnp # sound cards. # device pcm0 at isa? port ? tty irq 10 drq 1 vector pcmintr # Not controlled by `snd' device pca0 at isa? port IO_TIMER1 tty # The aic7xxx driver will attempt to use memory mapped I/O for all PCI # controllers that have it configured only if this option is set. Unfortunately, # this doesn't work on some motherboards, which prevents it from being the # default. options AHC_ALLOW_MEMIO # VScom options "COM_MULTIPORT" device sio4 at isa? port 0x100 tty flags 0xb05 device sio5 at isa? port 0x108 tty flags 0xb05 device sio6 at isa? port 0x110 tty flags 0x300b05 device sio7 at isa? port 0x118 tty flags 0x300b05 device sio8 at isa? port 0x140 tty flags 0xb05 device sio9 at isa? port 0x128 tty flags 0xb05 device sio10 at isa? port 0x130 tty flags 0xb05 device sio11 at isa? port 0x138 tty flags 0xb05 irq 11 vector siointr device bktr0 controller smbus0 device smb0 at smbus? controller iicbus0 controller iicbb0 device ic0 at iicbus? device iic0 at iicbus? device iicsmb0 at iicbus? # USB support controller uhci0 controller ohci0 controller usb0 device ums0 device ukbd0 device ulpt0 device uhub0 device ucom0 device umodem0 device hid0 device ugen0 options USBVERBOSE dmesg: Copyright (c) 1992-1999 FreeBSD Inc. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT #0: Mon Jan 11 03:42:34 CET 1999 root@vogon.agala.harz.de:/usr/src/sys/compile/VOGON Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Pentium II (quarter-micron) (686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x652 Stepping=2 Features=0x183fbff> real memory = 67108864 (65536K bytes) avail memory = 61906944 (60456K bytes) Programming 24 pins in IOAPIC #0 FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor motherboard cpu0 (BSP): apic id: 1, version: 0x00040011, at 0xfee00000 cpu1 (AP): apic id: 0, version: 0x00040011, at 0xfee00000 io0 (APIC): apic id: 2, version: 0x00170011, at 0xfec00000 Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xf0324000. Preloaded userconfig_script "/boot/sound.config" at 0xf032409c. Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: chip0: rev 0x03 on pci0.0.0 chip1: rev 0x03 on pci0.1.0 chip2: rev 0x01 on pci0.2.0 ide_pci0: rev 0x01 on pci0.2.1 uhci0: rev 0x01 int d irq 19 on pci0.2.2 usb0: USB version 1.0, interrupting at 9 chip3: rev 0x01 on pci0.2.3 fxp0: rev 0x02 int a irq 19 on pci0.3.0 fxp0: Ethernet address 00:a0:c9:61:7f:06 ahc0: rev 0x03 int a irq 17 on pci0.9.0 ahc0: aic7895 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs ahc1: rev 0x03 int b irq 17 on pci0.9.1 ahc1: aic7895 Wide Channel B, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs vga0: rev 0x00 int a irq 18 on pci0.14.0 bktr0: rev 0x02 int a irq 19 on pci0.15.0 bti2c0: iicbb0: on bti2c0 iicbus0: on iicbb0 master-only iicsmb0: on iicbus0 smbus0: on iicsmb0 smb0: on smbus0 iic0: on iicbus0 smbus1: on bti2c0 smb1: on smbus1 Hauppauge WinCast/TV, Philips FR1216 PAL tuner. Probing for devices on PCI bus 1: Probing for PnP devices: CSN 1 Vendor ID: CSC0b35 [0x350b630e] Serial 0xffffffff Comp ID: @@@0000 [0x00000000] mss_attach 1 at 0x530 irq 10 dma 1:0 flags 0x10 pcm1 (CS423x/Yamaha/AD1816 sn 0xffffffff) at 0x530-0x537 irq 10 drq 1 flags 0x10 on isa Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16550A lpt0 at 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa lpt0: Interrupt-driven port lp0: TCP/IP capable interface psm0 at 0x60-0x64 irq 12 on motherboard psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 pcm0 not probed due to drq conflict with pcm1 at 1 pca0 on motherboard pca0: PC speaker audio driver sio4 at 0x100-0x107 flags 0xb05 on isa sio4: type 16550A (multiport) sio5 at 0x108-0x10f flags 0xb05 on isa sio5: type 16550A (multiport) sio6 at 0x110-0x117 flags 0xb05 on isa sio6: type 16550A (multiport) sio7 at 0x118-0x11f flags 0xb05 on isa sio7: type 16550A (multiport) sio8 at 0x140-0x147 flags 0xb05 on isa sio8: type 16550A (multiport) sio9 at 0x128-0x12f flags 0xb05 on isa sio9: type 16550A (multiport) sio10 at 0x130-0x137 flags 0xb05 on isa sio10: type 16550A (multiport) sio11 at 0x138-0x13f irq 11 flags 0xb05 on isa sio11: type 16550A (multiport master) fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in wdc0 not found at 0x1f0 wdc1 not found at 0x170 npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface apm0 on isa apm: found APM BIOS version 1.2 usb0: usb1 at usb0 usb1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 usb1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered APIC_IO: Testing 8254 interrupt delivery APIC_IO: routing 8254 via pin 2 IP packet filtering initialized, divert enabled, rule-based forwarding enabled, unlimited logging ccd0-3: Concatenated disk drivers DUMMYNET initialized (980901) -- size dn_pkt 48 Waiting 6 seconds for SCSI devices to settle SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! sa0 at ahc1 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 sa0: Removable Sequential Access SCSI-CCS device sa0: 3.300MB/s transfers da1 at ahc1 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 da1: Removable Direct Access SCSI-2 device da1: 5.0MB/s transfers (5.0MHz, offset 15) da1: 256MB (524288 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 256C) da4 at ahc0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 da4: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da4: 10.0MB/s transfers (10.0MHz, offset 15), Tagged Queueing Enabled da4: 1034MB (2118144 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 1034C) da5 at ahc1 bus 0 target 5 lun 0 da5: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da5: 10.0MB/s transfers (10.0MHz, offset 15), Tagged Queueing Enabled da5: 1034MB (2118144 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 1034C) da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: 40.0MB/s transfers (20.0MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 4357MB (8925000 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 4357C) ffs_mountfs: superblock updated for soft updates ffs_mountfs: superblock updated for soft updates ffs_mountfs: superblock updated for soft updates ffs_mountfs: superblock updated for soft updates cd0 at ahc1 bus 0 target 3 lun 0 cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-2 device cd0: 20.0MB/s transfers (20.0MHz, offset 15) cd0: cd present [327291 x 2048 byte records] (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): tagged openings now 64 Frank To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 00:45:01 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA17686 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 00:45:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cletus.tinet.ie (cletus.tinet.ie [159.134.237.64]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA17670 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 00:44:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from crypt0genic@ecad.org) Received: from p251.cork1.tinet.ie ([159.134.228.251] helo=tinet.ie) by cletus.tinet.ie with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #20) id 0zzzQq-0001s7-00; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 08:44:12 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3.0.2.32.19990112092216.014d3d30@pop.saers.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 08:40:57 -0000 (GMT) Reply-To: crypt0genic@ecad.org Organization: ECAD.ORG From: "crypt0genic of ECAD.ORG" To: Niklas Saers Subject: RE: Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG you have to make bsd.port.pre.mk, just cd /usr/src/share/mk/ and tupe make, that should fix it. On 12-Jan-99 Niklas Saers wrote: > Hi. I've just cvsup'ed 3.0-RELEASE and I try to > build the imap-uw-port. > However, at a make install clean I get: > > "Makefile", line 26: Could not find > bsd.port.pre.mk > "Makefile", line 28: Malformed conditional > (${PORTOBJFORMAT} == "aout") > "Makefile", line 28: Need an operator > "Makefile", line 30: if-less endif > "Makefile", line 30: Need an operator > "Makefile", line 54: Could not find > bsd.port.post.mk > make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot > continue > > Any ideas why? > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to > majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body > of the message ---------------------------------- E-Mail: crypt0genic of ECAD.ORG Date: 12-Jan-99 Time: 08:39:08 This message was sent by XFMail ---------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 00:45:32 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA17742 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 00:45:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles165.castles.com [208.214.165.165]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA17733 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 00:45:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA01996; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 00:41:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199901120841.AAA01996@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Frank J. Beckmann" cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: syncing disks ... giving up In-reply-to: Your message of "12 Jan 1999 02:08:40 +0100." <77e7ao$sar$1@atlantis.rz.tu-clausthal.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 00:41:43 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Hi, > > until a few days ago I used 3.0-current elf with a.out kernel of early > december. Then i updated to a curent current and elf kernel. Since then > my disks can't get synced when I do a shutdown. It says "syncing disks..." > and the number of busy local buffers goes down to 5 or for, but not below > that number. Syncing the disks only succedes in one in about 10 times. Can't help you here... > Another problem is related to apm. Halting used to switch my ATX > mainboard of but that doesn't work anymore. But if you were reading -current (as you should) I think you should have seen the change to halt/shutdown to use '-p' to power off. > This 2 problems happen with and without SMP enabled. > > I have also a SMP problem. I get hundreds of silo overflows under load > with SMP but I don't get that errors without SMP. This is probably a 'feature' of the current SMP interrupt handling code. > Last question is: does rc.shutdown ever get executed? When you run "shutdown", yes. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 01:12:19 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA20974 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 01:12:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from shell.futuresouth.com (shell.futuresouth.com [198.78.58.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA20969 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 01:12:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fullermd@futuresouth.com) Received: (from fullermd@localhost) by shell.futuresouth.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id DAA09743; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 03:10:09 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <19990112031009.K22809@futuresouth.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 03:10:09 -0600 From: "Matthew D. Fuller" To: Ville-Pertti Keinonen , John Hay Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Boot.flp doesn't References: <199901111058.MAA00994@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za.newsgate.clinet.fi> <867lusga6v.fsf@not.oeno.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <867lusga6v.fsf@not.oeno.com>; from Ville-Pertti Keinonen on Tue, Jan 12, 1999 at 10:35:52AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Jan 12, 1999 at 10:35:52AM +0200, a little birdie told me that Ville-Pertti Keinonen remarked > > John Hay writes: > > > That was what I was thinking of. I think ftp installs are much more used > > than nfs installs and for that reason nfs could move to the second floppy > > and few (I think) people would be impacted. > > Really? NFS is so much simpler (if it isn't an installation from > a public server) that I would expect it to be common. Actually, I've always found the FTP to be simpler... Stick files on computer (or mount CD). Done. I always keep the latest -RELEASE on a system here for FTP, so that if we have another system that needs setup, I just do a FTP install (amazing how fast they go over 100mbit/full duplex ;), and then NFS mounted installworld at some point from the latest build I have sitting around. Only time I ever tried NFS, it was a disaster. Granted, it was with 2.1.5 a few months back, (don't ask), and I had to jump through more hoops than you would BELIEVE to get that dang thing to just INSTALL. --- *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* | Matthew Fuller http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd | * fullermd@futuresouth.com fullermd@over-yonder.net * | UNIX Systems Administrator Specializing in FreeBSD | * FutureSouth Communications ISPHelp ISP Consulting * | "The only reason I'm burning my candle at both ends, | * because I haven't figured out how to light the * | middle yet" | *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 01:21:31 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA21865 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 01:21:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from korin.warman.org.pl (korin.nask.waw.pl [195.187.243.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA21857 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 01:21:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from abial@nask.pl) Received: from localhost (abial@localhost) by korin.warman.org.pl (8.9.1/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA20076 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 10:27:34 +0100 (CET) X-Authentication-Warning: korin.warman.org.pl: abial owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 10:27:34 +0100 (CET) From: Andrzej Bialecki X-Sender: abial@korin.warman.org.pl To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: fxp0: can't map memory Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Using recent boot.flp (19990105-SNAP), on Intel Dakota MB, I get this message from probing the on-board ethernet card. The card is then unusable. Previous SNAP-s and -current (as of ca. Oct-Nov) had no problems. So, what should I do? Andrzej Bialecki -------------------- ++-------++ ------------------------------------- ||PicoBSD|| FreeBSD in your pocket? Go and see: Research & Academic |+-------+| "Small & Embedded FreeBSD" Network in Poland | |TT~~~| | http://www.freebsd.org/~picobsd/ -------------------- ~-+==---+-+ ------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 01:35:57 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA23182 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 01:35:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from aurora.sol.net (aurora.sol.net [206.55.65.76]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA23176 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 01:35:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jgreco@aurora.sol.net) Received: (from jgreco@localhost) by aurora.sol.net (8.8.8/8.8.8/SNNS-1.02) id DAA08311; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 03:35:16 -0600 (CST) From: Joe Greco Message-Id: <199901120935.DAA08311@aurora.sol.net> Subject: Re: Lots of arpresolve: can't allocate llinfo for rt In-Reply-To: <99Jan11.124000pst.177534@crevenia.parc.xerox.com> from Bill Fenner at "Jan 11, 99 12:39:51 pm" To: fenner@parc.xerox.com (Bill Fenner) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 03:35:16 -0600 (CST) Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Okay, I'll reboot/install this before I leave today. Hey, wait, it's 3:30AM. Almost time to leave. :-) Thanks for the patch. I'll let you know what happens with it. It was getting a bit irritating... I'm using a serial console and during very heavy message-spews, the machine seems to "freeze" for seconds at a time and I'm pretty sure its because the system is waiting for the 9600 baud console to print. I've got a whole different set of complaints about the serial console handling, oh well. Have a good one, ... JG > Try this patch. It should either change the error messages to include > an "arplookup" message which might give more info, or fix the problem. > > Bill > > Index: if_ether.c > =================================================================== > RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/netinet/if_ether.c,v > retrieving revision 1.50 > diff -u -r1.50 if_ether.c > --- if_ether.c 1999/01/10 17:40:10 1.50 > +++ if_ether.c 1999/01/11 20:37:29 > @@ -340,7 +340,7 @@ > } > if (rt) > la = (struct llinfo_arp *)rt->rt_llinfo; > - else { > + if (la == 0) { > la = arplookup(SIN(dst)->sin_addr.s_addr, 1, 0); > if (la) > rt = la->la_rt; > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 01:35:57 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA23186 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 01:35:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from adelphi.physics.adelaide.edu.au (adelphi.physics.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.36.247]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA23175 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 01:35:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kkennawa@physics.adelaide.edu.au) Received: from bragg (bragg [129.127.36.34]) by adelphi.physics.adelaide.edu.au (8.8.8/8.8.8/UofA-1.5) with SMTP id UAA17650; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 20:05:16 +1030 (CST) Received: from localhost by bragg; (5.65/1.1.8.2/05Aug95-0227PM) id AA02602; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 20:05:16 +1030 Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 20:05:15 +1030 (CST) From: Kris Kennaway X-Sender: kkennawa@bragg To: Niklas Saers Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: <3.0.2.32.19990112092216.014d3d30@pop.saers.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 12 Jan 1999, Niklas Saers wrote: > Hi. I've just cvsup'ed 3.0-RELEASE and I try to build the imap-uw-port. > However, at a make install clean I get: > > "Makefile", line 26: Could not find bsd.port.pre.mk > "Makefile", line 28: Malformed conditional (${PORTOBJFORMAT} == "aout") > "Makefile", line 28: Need an operator > "Makefile", line 30: if-less endif > "Makefile", line 30: Need an operator > "Makefile", line 54: Could not find bsd.port.post.mk > make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue > > Any ideas why? Did you follow the correct upgrade procedure (make aout-to-elf, or whatever the target is)? This file is supposed to be installed during the installworld phase. Kris > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > ----- (ASP) Microsoft Corporation (MSFT) announced today that the release of its productivity suite, Office 2000, will be delayed until the first quarter of 1901. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 01:42:14 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA23781 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 01:42:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from axl.noc.iafrica.com (axl.noc.iafrica.com [196.31.1.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA23775 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 01:42:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sheldonh@axl.noc.iafrica.com) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.noc.iafrica.com) by axl.noc.iafrica.com with local-esmtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 1000KD-00039R-00 for current@freebsd.org; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 11:41:25 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: amd: noconn option exists... Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 11:41:25 +0200 Message-ID: <12116.916134085@axl.noc.iafrica.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi folks, I'm using ELF 3.0-CURRENT as of Friday last week. I've just noticed the following in /etc/messages: amd[11641]: noconn option exists, and was turned OFF! (May cause NFS hangs on some systems...) src/contrib/amd/libamu/mount_fs.c has this to say (indentation removed): /* * Some OSs want you to set noconn always. Some want you to always turn * it off. Others want you to turn it on/off only if NFS V.3 is used. * And all of that changes from revision to another. This is * particularly true of OpenBSD, NetBSD, and FreeBSD. So, rather than * attempt to auto-detect this, I'm forced to "fix" it in the individual * conf/nfs_prot/nfs_prot_*.h files. */ Are these messages harmless warnings that can be turned off, or does this indicate that I falsely estimated the success of my transition to CURRENT? Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 01:43:02 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA24036 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 01:43:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za [146.64.24.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA23743 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 01:41:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhay@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za) Received: (from jhay@localhost) by zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA24068 for current@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 11:40:51 +0200 (SAT) From: John Hay Message-Id: <199901120940.LAA24068@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za> Subject: Re: /usr/obj/elf, /usr/obj/aout, /usr/obj - breaks make all vs make buildworld, and other things. Time to make elf the default In-Reply-To: <199901120606.IAA20136@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za> from John Hay at "Jan 12, 99 08:06:31 am" To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 11:40:51 +0200 (SAT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ok, make world and make release have completed without a problem with this patch. I'd like to commit it, but first want to know if there is serious complaints about it. The effect is that /usr/obj/elf is no longer used for the elf objects. So if you do a make world and then later go and recompile something in a subdirectory, it will use the same obj directory. Also snaps and release source tarballs won't have the stray .o files anymore. The old /usr/obj/elf directory won't be automaticaly deleted. That will have to be done manually. Maybe we should put something in src/UPDATING about it? John -- John Hay -- John.Hay@mikom.csir.co.za --- Makefile.inc0.org Mon Dec 21 10:30:44 1998 +++ Makefile.inc0 Mon Jan 11 14:32:31 1999 @@ -18,7 +18,9 @@ # Variables passed to make work better if they are set as environment # variables instead of command line options. # +.if ${MACHINE_ARCH} == "i386" && ${OBJFORMAT} == "aout" MK_ENV= MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=${MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX}/${OBJFORMAT} +.endif # # We should always use the current set of mk files, not the installed ones. @@ -51,7 +53,7 @@ # # Temporary path and environment for the legacy build. # -ELFTMP= ${MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX}/elf${.CURDIR}/tmp +ELFTMP= ${MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX}${.CURDIR}/tmp ELFTMPPATH= ${ELFTMP}/sbin:${ELFTMP}/bin:${ELFTMP}/usr/sbin:${ELFTMP}/usr/bin:${ELFTMP}/usr/games LEGACY_ENV= PATH=${ELFTMPPATH} OBJFORMAT=aout NOTOOLS=1 TOOLROOT=${ELFTMP} \ MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=${MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX}/aout To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 02:01:12 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA25786 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 02:01:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from PacHell.TelcoSucks.org (PacHell.TelcoSucks.org [207.90.181.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA25779 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 02:01:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ulf@PacHell.TelcoSucks.org) Received: (from ulf@localhost) by PacHell.TelcoSucks.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id CAA19008 for current@freebsd.org; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 02:00:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ulf) Message-ID: <19990112020045.B10583@TelcoSucks.org> Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 02:00:45 -0800 From: Ulf Zimmermann To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Problems with 3.0.0-SNAP-19990106 boot.flp Reply-To: ulf@Alameda.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i Organization: Alameda Networks, Inc. X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-19980930-BETA Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Directly after the PC beeps (start of boot) I get a CPU register dump and the system is halted: int=0000000d err=00000000 efl=00030046 eip=000003d8 eax=00000001 ebx=00000000 ecx=0000feff edx=00000084 esi=00000000 edi=00000000 ebp=00000000 esp=00000406 cs=cc80 ds=cc80 es=9f40 fs=0000 gs=0000 ss=9dbd cs:eip=0f 20 c0 66 26 89 86 ec-02 a8 01 75 0f e8 dd 0d ss:esp=00 00 00 00 87 91 00 00-46 02 04 00 00 00 f8 3f System halted Same happens with SNAP-19990105. Exact same output. System is an Intel DK440LX with Dual PII-300, 256MB memory, IDE harddisk, on-board SCSI Adaptec AIC-7895 with several SCSI drives. -- Regards, Ulf. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Ulf Zimmermann, 1525 Pacific Ave., Alameda, CA-94501, #: 510-769-2936 Alameda Networks, Inc. | http://www.Alameda.net | Fax#: 510-521-5073 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 02:49:16 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA00795 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 02:49:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA00779 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 02:49:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN) id TAA24750; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 19:48:28 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <369B23F9.E4B8A936@newsguy.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 19:29:13 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tugrul CC: Alfred Perlstein , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Booting FreeBSD beyond the 1024th cylinder References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Tugrul wrote: > > None of the boot blocks understand what a elf kernel is afaik. Any > tips on loading /boot/loader from a floppy, which then loads the kernel > off wd0s2a? Or is /boot/loader still limited? I don't think both will fit > on a floppy... lately my kernels have gotten smaller but they might grow > in size again. AFAIK, not only loader, but also btx, will support loading hd kernels even if booted from floppy. -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com If you sell your soul to the Devil and all you get is an MCSE from it, you haven't gotten market rate. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 02:49:27 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA00830 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 02:49:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA00810 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 02:49:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN) id TAA24740; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 19:48:23 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <369B2103.35AAF3CB@newsguy.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 19:16:35 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ville-Pertti Keinonen CC: John Hay , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Boot.flp doesn't References: <199901111058.MAA00994@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za.newsgate.clinet.fi> <867lusga6v.fsf@not.oeno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ville-Pertti Keinonen wrote: > > Given a CD and a bunch of machines, some without CD-ROMs, the > simplest way to install the machines without CD-ROMs would seem to > be mounting the cd on a machine that can, adding /cdrom -ro to > /etc/exports and installing over NFS. Of course there are the > little bits of work necessary to activate NFS, but starting the > daemons (or SIGHUPing mountd if they're already up) is not hard. I guess it comes down to which is simpler: setting up an ftp for the cdrom, or an nfs. If people don't have experience with nfs, then it becomes much more of a difference, as nfs documentation is not entirely clear, and a little bit scary. -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com If you sell your soul to the Devil and all you get is an MCSE from it, you haven't gotten market rate. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 03:00:40 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA01713 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 03:00:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from polaris.we.lc.ehu.es (polaris.we.lc.ehu.es [158.227.6.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA01699 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 03:00:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jose@we.lc.ehu.es) Received: from we.lc.ehu.es (tiburon [158.227.6.111]) by polaris.we.lc.ehu.es (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA08435; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 11:58:01 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <369B2AB9.E39B196@we.lc.ehu.es> Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 11:58:01 +0100 From: "José Mª Alcaide" Organization: Universidad del País Vasco - Dept. de Electricidad y Electrónica X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sheldon Hearn CC: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: amd: noconn option exists... References: <12116.916134085@axl.noc.iafrica.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sheldon Hearn wrote: > > I'm using ELF 3.0-CURRENT as of Friday last week. I've just noticed the > following in /etc/messages: > > amd[11641]: noconn option exists, and was turned OFF! (May cause NFS hangs on some systems...) > > src/contrib/amd/libamu/mount_fs.c has this to say (indentation removed): > > /* > * Some OSs want you to set noconn always. Some want you to always turn > * it off. Others want you to turn it on/off only if NFS V.3 is used. > * And all of that changes from revision to another. This is > * particularly true of OpenBSD, NetBSD, and FreeBSD. So, rather than > * attempt to auto-detect this, I'm forced to "fix" it in the individual > * conf/nfs_prot/nfs_prot_*.h files. > */ > Me too :-). Indeed, I noticed the same thing and I also found that comment in the file mount_fs.c. I'm using NFSv3/TCP. -- JMA ----------------------------------------------------------------------- José Mª Alcaide | mailto:jose@we.lc.ehu.es Universidad del País Vasco | http://www.we.lc.ehu.es/~jose Dpto. de Electricidad y Electrónica | Facultad de Ciencias - Campus de Lejona | Tel.: +34-946012479 48940 Lejona (Vizcaya) - SPAIN | Fax: +34-944858139 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- "Go ahead... make my day." - H. Callahan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 03:02:05 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA02013 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 03:02:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ceia.nordier.com (m1-12-dbn.dial-up.net [196.34.155.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA01973 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 03:02:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rnordier@nordier.com) Received: (from rnordier@localhost) by ceia.nordier.com (8.8.7/8.6.12) id NAA00639; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 13:00:47 +0200 (SAT) From: Robert Nordier Message-Id: <199901121100.NAA00639@ceia.nordier.com> Subject: Re: Problems with 3.0.0-SNAP-19990106 boot.flp In-Reply-To: <19990112020045.B10583@TelcoSucks.org> from Ulf Zimmermann at "Jan 12, 99 02:00:45 am" To: ulf@Alameda.net Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 13:00:39 +0200 (SAT) Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ulf Zimmermann wrote: > Directly after the PC beeps (start of boot) I get a CPU register dump > and the system is halted: > > int=0000000d err=00000000 efl=00030046 eip=000003d8 > eax=00000001 ebx=00000000 ecx=0000feff edx=00000084 > esi=00000000 edi=00000000 ebp=00000000 esp=00000406 > cs=cc80 ds=cc80 es=9f40 fs=0000 gs=0000 ss=9dbd > cs:eip=0f 20 c0 66 26 89 86 ec-02 a8 01 75 0f e8 dd 0d > ss:esp=00 00 00 00 87 91 00 00-46 02 04 00 00 00 f8 3f > System halted > > Same happens with SNAP-19990105. Exact same output. > > System is an Intel DK440LX with Dual PII-300, 256MB memory, > IDE harddisk, on-board SCSI Adaptec AIC-7895 with several > SCSI drives. Your firmware is apparently attempting a "movl %cr0,%eax" in V86 mode. BTX, which hosts boot2 and boot/loader, doesn't currently provide emulation of this (privileged) instruction. It will be easy enough to make provision for this, but it may be safest to check out what exactly is happening here; so if you want to dd(1) the 16K of physical memory starting at 0xcc000 and send it to me, I'll take a look. Anyway, there should be a fix to try in a day or two. -- Robert Nordier To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 03:12:41 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA02752 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 03:12:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail16.svr.pol.co.uk (mail16.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.217]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA02746 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 03:12:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from A.M.Zanker@open.ac.uk) Received: from [195.92.193.20] (helo=mail5.svr.pol.co.uk) by mail16.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 1001Sp-0002jq-00 for current@freebsd.org; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 10:54:23 +0000 Received: from modem-1.manganese.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.12.1] helo=jemima) by mail5.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 1001Sn-0007Nc-00 for current@freebsd.org; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 10:54:22 +0000 Message-Id: <4.1.19990112104534.05e83550@aire.open.ac.uk> X-Sender: mikez@aire.open.ac.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 10:53:32 +0000 To: current@FreeBSD.ORG From: Mike Zanker Subject: New console driver Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I cvsup'd current last night (23:00 GMT, 11/01/99) and made the necessary changes to my kernel config (I'm using sc0). The only oddity that I've noticed following a make world/kernel is that stty erase is now undefined. Anyone know why? Thanks, Mike -- Mike Zanker, Academic Computing Service, The Open University, UK Tel: +44 1908 652726, Fax: +44 1908 652193 Views expressed are personal and do not necessarily reflect University opinion. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 03:21:54 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA03561 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 03:21:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.196.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA03552 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 03:21:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (IDENT:JRDtaVS+XGTarBAU9dBex91YT4S5H4cm@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA08386; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 20:20:16 +0900 (JST) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.7.6+2.6Wbeta7/3.4W/zodiac-May96) with ESMTP id UAA22953; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 20:22:43 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199901121122.UAA22953@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> To: Mike Zanker cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp Subject: Re: New console driver In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 12 Jan 1999 10:53:32 GMT." <4.1.19990112104534.05e83550@aire.open.ac.uk> References: <4.1.19990112104534.05e83550@aire.open.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 20:22:43 +0900 From: Kazutaka YOKOTA Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >I cvsup'd current last night (23:00 GMT, 11/01/99) and made the necessary >changes to my kernel config (I'm using sc0). The only oddity that I've >noticed following a make world/kernel is that stty erase is now undefined. >Anyone know why? Another bug spotted! Please apply the following patch to /sys/dev/kbd/kbd.c and see if it works. Thank you. Kazu Index: kbd.c =================================================================== RCS file: /src/CVS/src/sys/dev/kbd/kbd.c,v retrieving revision 1.1 diff -u -r1.1 kbd.c --- kbd.c 1999/01/09 02:44:50 1.1 +++ kbd.c 1999/01/12 11:22:14 @@ -851,7 +856,7 @@ splx(s); return EINVAL; } - bcopy(&kbd->kb_keymap[keyp->keynum], &keyp->key, + bcopy(&kbd->kb_keymap->key[keyp->keynum], &keyp->key, sizeof(keyp->key)); break; case PIO_KEYMAPENT: /* set keyboard translation table entry */ @@ -861,7 +866,7 @@ splx(s); return EINVAL; } - bcopy(&keyp->key, &kbd->kb_keymap[keyp->keynum], + bcopy(&keyp->key, &kbd->kb_keymap->key[keyp->keynum], sizeof(keyp->key)); break; To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 04:13:20 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA10634 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 04:13:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail11.svr.pol.co.uk (mail11.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA10629 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 04:13:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from A.M.Zanker@open.ac.uk) Received: from modem-38.silicon.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.6.166] helo=jemima) by mail11.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 1002gW-0004w7-00; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 12:12:37 +0000 Message-Id: <4.1.19990112121101.00973a60@aire.open.ac.uk> X-Sender: mikez@aire.open.ac.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 12:12:29 +0000 To: Kazutaka YOKOTA From: Mike Zanker Subject: Re: New console driver (stty erase undef) Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199901121122.UAA22953@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> References: <4.1.19990112104534.05e83550@aire.open.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 11:22 12/01/99 , Kazutaka YOKOTA wrote: >Please apply the following patch to /sys/dev/kbd/kbd.c and see if it >works. Yes, that seems to have solved it! Thanks, Mike -- Mike Zanker, Academic Computing Service, The Open University, UK Tel: +44 1908 652726, Fax: +44 1908 652193 Views expressed are personal and do not necessarily reflect University opinion. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 04:16:52 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA10825 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 04:16:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from TomQNX.tomqnx.com (cpu2745.adsl.bellglobal.com [207.236.55.214]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA10819 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 04:16:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom@tomqnx.com) Received: by TomQNX.tomqnx.com (Smail3.2 #1) id m1002k4-000I0SC; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 07:16:16 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: From: tom@tomqnx.com (Tom Torrance at home) Subject: Re: SOFTUPDATES question In-Reply-To: from Kenneth Wayne Culver at "Jan 11, 1999 4:13:42 pm" To: culverk@wam.umd.edu (Kenneth Wayne Culver) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 07:16:16 -0500 (EST) Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > What are the pros and cons of defining an extra swapfile that > > resides on a partition where SOFTUPDATES are enabled? > > > > Please do a group reply, as I am not registered for 'questions' list. > > > > Regards, > > Tom > Well, SOFTUPDATES are just a way of speeding things up. . Especially if > you have a slower hard drive. I personally havn't ever done this with a > swapfile, but I'm sure that swap writes would be improved much. Basically > what softupdates allows is async writes to a filesystem without the risks. I'm not so sure - essentially softupdates updates in memory and drags its feet a lot before writing to the actual disk. A swap file on the other hand wants its data written immediately to free up the associated memory. I have a feeling that the softupdates usage would actually increase memory usage, thereby increasing the swap file utilization - a vicious circle. Anyone else have a better feel for this? Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 05:54:02 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA21648 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 05:54:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from spinner.netplex.com.au (spinner.netplex.com.au [202.12.86.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA21597 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 05:53:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) Received: from spinner.netplex.com.au (peter@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spinner.netplex.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.1/Netplex) with ESMTP id VAA66059 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 21:53:22 +0800 (WST) (envelope-from peter@spinner.netplex.com.au) Message-Id: <199901121353.VAA66059@spinner.netplex.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: HEADS UP: defaults changed in sendmail.cf Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 21:53:21 +0800 From: Peter Wemm Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG While updating the sendmail source from 8.9.1 to 8.9.2, I looked at the default sendmail.cf rules and decided that they were a bit on the light side. I have jumped in and turned on a few more features, including some that I suspect will cause some raised eyebrows. In particular: 1: I turned on the relay_based_on_MX feature. This is intended to ease the transition from the "default relay" to "relay denied" in 8.9.x. Note that this DOES NOT expose anybody to spam risk, although it does mean that sendmail will automatically perform a fallback relay function without explicitly being enabled. For example; if "foo.com" lists "xyz.bar.com" in their fallback MX list, then xyz.bar.com will happily relay mail TO foo.com (and only TO them, not FROM them). If foo.com did this without bar.com's permission and xyz.bar.com relayed spam to foo.com, then foo.com is getting what they deserve and has no right to complain (and they can fix it by repairing their MX configuration). 2: I turned on the Mime header overflow checking. This is a runtime cost since sendmail scans the body when it passes through the system. 3: I turned on a few more (optional) tables. Nothing happens unless the .db files are created, but the rules are present. This means that the default sendmail.cf will be a lot more useful without needing rebuilding in as many cases. I hope this represents a better medium capability sendmail.cf file. Of course it can still be tuned for specific purposes. 4: some default paths are different, in line with Eric's plans to move everthing to /etc/mail for the next release. Cheers, -Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 06:51:37 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA27947 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 06:51:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from second.dialup.access.net (lsmarso.dialup.access.net [166.84.254.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA27939 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 06:51:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from larry@marso.com) Received: (from larry@localhost) by second.dialup.access.net (8.9.1/8.8.8) id JAA26239 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 09:31:36 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from larry) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 09:31:36 -0500 From: "Larry S. Marso" To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: sysicons kernel build failure Message-ID: <19990112093136.B25422@marso.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Here's a piece where the kernel build began to go awry: /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// ototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wuninitialized -Wformat -Wunused -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -DKERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf ../../dev/syscons/syscons.c ../../dev/syscons/syscons.c:271: warning: `add_scrn_saver' declared `static' but never defined ../../dev/syscons/syscons.c:272: warning: `remove_scrn_saver' declared `static' but never defined ../../dev/syscons/syscons.c:273: warning: `set_scrn_saver_mode' declared `static' but never defined ../../dev/syscons/syscons.c:274: warning: `restore_scrn_saver_mode' declared `static' but never defined ../../dev/syscons/syscons.c:275: warning: `stop_scrn_saver' declared `static' but never defined ../../dev/syscons/syscons.c:276: warning: `wait_scrn_saver_stop' declared `static' but never defined cc -c -O -Wreturn-type -Wcomment -Wredundant-decls -Wimplicit -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wuninitialized -Wformat -Wunused -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -DKERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf ../../dev/syscons/scvidctl.c /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Here's where it fails: /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// loading kernel syscons.o: In function `scvidprobe': syscons.o(.text+0x231): undefined reference to `vid_configure' syscons.o(.text+0x24e): undefined reference to `vid_allocate' syscons.o(.text+0x26b): undefined reference to `vid_get_adapter' syscons.o: In function `sckbdprobe': syscons.o(.text+0x29a): undefined reference to `kbd_configure' syscons.o(.text+0x2be): undefined reference to `kbd_allocate' syscons.o(.text+0x2db): undefined reference to `kbd_get_keyboard' syscons.o: In function `scattach': syscons.o(.text+0x3a0): undefined reference to `kbdsw' syscons.o: In function `scopen': etc. /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Best regards -- Larry S. Marso larry@marso.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 07:04:00 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA29270 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 07:04:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.196.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA29253 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 07:03:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (IDENT:asRWsshqystLW9xjuM+nZ+dHffDkaE2D@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA08813; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 00:03:09 +0900 (JST) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.7.6+2.6Wbeta7/3.4W/zodiac-May96) with ESMTP id AAA29252; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 00:05:36 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199901121505.AAA29252@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> To: "Larry S. Marso" cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp Subject: Re: sysicons kernel build failure In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 12 Jan 1999 09:31:36 EST." <19990112093136.B25422@marso.com> References: <19990112093136.B25422@marso.com> Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 00:05:36 +0900 From: Kazutaka YOKOTA Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >Here's a piece where the kernel build began to go awry: Please read http://www.freebsd.org/~yokota/sc-update.txt and update your kernel config file before you rebuild your kernel. Kazu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 07:05:09 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA29640 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 07:05:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from echo.flash.net (echo.flash.net [209.30.0.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA29629 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 07:05:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from amcl@echo.flash.net) Received: from localhost (p128.amax28.dialup.dal1.flash.net [209.30.118.128]) by echo.flash.net (8.9.1/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA03518; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 09:04:01 -0600 (CST) Received: by localhost (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 12 Jan 1999 09:09:53 -0600 Message-ID: <19990112090953.A310@flash.net> Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 09:09:53 -0600 From: Alan McLean To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Trouble with 3.0.0-19990106-SNAP Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG and 3.0.0-19990105-SNAP. Everything with the install goes great upto the final 'Last chance, are you sure you want to continue' step. Immediately after hitting enter I get signal 11. Heres debug with context, DEBUG: Setting variable ftpPort to 21 DEBUG: installCommit: System state is `init' DEBUG: diskPartitionWrite: Examining 2 devices DEBUG: bootalloc: can't stat /boot/boot1 DEBUG: bootalloc: can't stat /boot/boot2 DEBUG: Signal 11 caught! That's bad! I did notice "No /boot/loader" was displayed when booting, but it loaded sysinst with no apparent problems. Had no problem detecting correct geometry, etc. ASUS P2B 440BX PII/350 128M AWARD BIOS Intel PIIX4 IDE set Maxtor DiamondMax 8.4G UDMA (Primary Slave) Real CHS=16278,16,63 / LBA CHS=1021/255/63 (BIOS setting) If this is a known problem and has been beaten to death, I sincerely apologize I just got back on the list. -amcl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 07:14:28 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA00841 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 07:14:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bantu.cl.msu.edu (bantu.cl.msu.edu [35.8.3.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA00835 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 07:14:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dervish@bantu.cl.msu.edu) Received: (from dervish@localhost) by bantu.cl.msu.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA38827; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 10:12:31 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from dervish) Message-ID: <19990112101231.C15610@bantu.cl.msu.edu> Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 10:12:31 -0500 From: bush doctor To: Kazutaka YOKOTA Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sysicons kernel build failure References: <19990112093136.B25422@marso.com> <199901121505.AAA29252@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <199901121505.AAA29252@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp>; from Kazutaka YOKOTA on Wed, Jan 13, 1999 at 12:05:36AM +0900 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Quoting Kazutaka YOKOTA (yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp): > > >Here's a piece where the kernel build began to go awry: > > Please read > > http://www.freebsd.org/~yokota/sc-update.txt ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Erm ... look like you have that as "sc_update.txt" Also thanxs for the update notes ... #;^) > > and update your kernel config file before you rebuild your kernel. > > Kazu > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message i'chi -- So ya want ta here da roots? Dem that feels it knows it ... bush doctor To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 07:37:54 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA03224 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 07:37:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA03217 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 07:37:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA74835; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 09:36:19 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 09:36:19 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Andrzej Bialecki Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: fxp0: can't map memory Message-ID: <19990112093619.A74560@dan.emsphone.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: ; from "Andrzej Bialecki" on Tue Jan 12 10:27:34 GMT 1999 X-OS: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In the last episode (Jan 12), Andrzej Bialecki said: > Using recent boot.flp (19990105-SNAP), on Intel Dakota MB, I get this > message from probing the on-board ethernet card. The card is then > unusable. Previous SNAP-s and -current (as of ca. Oct-Nov) had no > problems. I got this message after switching to a new motherboard (Micronics of some sort). After some investigating, it looked like the BIOS option "shadow system ROMs" was stomping on the EE/Pro's memory. I disabled all the shadowing and caching options and it worked. -Dan Nelson dnelson@emsphone.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 07:47:01 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA04103 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 07:47:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from uni-sb.de (uni-sb.de [134.96.252.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA04097 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 07:46:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rock@wurzelausix.CS.Uni-SB.DE) Received: from cs.uni-sb.de (cs.uni-sb.de [134.96.252.31]) by uni-sb.de (8.9.2/1999010400) with ESMTP id QAA03016 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 16:46:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from wurzelausix (quadratix.cs.uni-sb.de [134.96.222.2]) by cs.uni-sb.de (8.9.2/1999010400) with ESMTP id QAA24655 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 16:46:18 +0100 (CET) Received: from vodix.aremorika (vodix [134.96.247.43]) by wurzelausix (8.9.1/wjp/19980821) with ESMTP id QAA11780 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 16:46:18 +0100 (CET) From: "D. Rock" Received: by vodix.aremorika; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 16:46:17 +0100 (MET) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 16:46:17 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199901121546.QAA23365@vodix.aremorika> To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ppbus panic after update Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG After the latest ppbus upgrade my system panics during bootup if my Creative Webcam II is connected at the parallel port. The last line during probe looks like: ppb0: IEEE1284 device found /PS2/ECP/EPP panic: ppb_1284_negociate: unknown mode (0) I have tried different flags for ppc but the results is always the same. The parallel port is normally being detected as "SMC-like". This error isn't a big deal for me, since I normally don't use the parallel port at all under FreeBSD. Daniel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 08:04:16 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA05933 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 08:04:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from korin.warman.org.pl (korin.nask.waw.pl [195.187.243.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA05864 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 08:03:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from abial@nask.pl) Received: from localhost (abial@localhost) by korin.warman.org.pl (8.9.1/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA17286; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 17:08:13 +0100 (CET) X-Authentication-Warning: korin.warman.org.pl: abial owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 17:08:13 +0100 (CET) From: Andrzej Bialecki X-Sender: abial@korin.warman.org.pl To: Dan Nelson cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: fxp0: can't map memory In-Reply-To: <19990112093619.A74560@dan.emsphone.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 12 Jan 1999, Dan Nelson wrote: > In the last episode (Jan 12), Andrzej Bialecki said: > > Using recent boot.flp (19990105-SNAP), on Intel Dakota MB, I get this > > message from probing the on-board ethernet card. The card is then > > unusable. Previous SNAP-s and -current (as of ca. Oct-Nov) had no > > problems. > > I got this message after switching to a new motherboard (Micronics of > some sort). After some investigating, it looked like the BIOS option > "shadow system ROMs" was stomping on the EE/Pro's memory. I disabled > all the shadowing and caching options and it worked. Thanks! I reloaded BIOS defaults, and it works again... Andrzej Bialecki -------------------- ++-------++ ------------------------------------- ||PicoBSD|| FreeBSD in your pocket? Go and see: Research & Academic |+-------+| "Small & Embedded FreeBSD" Network in Poland | |TT~~~| | http://www.freebsd.org/~picobsd/ -------------------- ~-+==---+-+ ------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 08:13:28 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA06899 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 08:13:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hod.sales.geocities.com ([216.32.212.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA06894 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 08:13:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from root@hod.sales.geocities.com) Received: from hod.sales.geocities.com (localhost.sales.geocities.com [127.0.0.1]) by hod.sales.geocities.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA05236 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 11:13:34 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from root@hod.sales.geocities.com) Message-Id: <199901121613.LAA05236@hod.sales.geocities.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: aic0 driver in -CURRENT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 11:13:34 -0500 From: Charlie Root Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have searched the archives and saw an old thread on the aic driver, but have seen nothing in the last two weeks, nor on this list. Is there a current status on this driver? JF To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 08:19:21 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA07782 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 08:19:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from paert.tse-online.de (paert.tse-online.de [194.97.69.172]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA07769 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 08:19:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ab@paert.tse-online.de) Received: (qmail 8647 invoked by uid 1000); 12 Jan 1999 16:18:06 -0000 Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 17:18:06 +0100 From: Andreas Braukmann To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: make release / how to create the bootable installation cd-roms? Message-ID: <19990112171806.A8547@paert.tse-online.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i Organization: TSE TeleService GmbH Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi there, ... yes, I know ... ${subject} was definitely discussed on -current a few days / weeks ago. But I've searched my -current-archive from beginning of december until now to no avail. Would somebody be so kind to point me to the relevant piece of (documentation | Makefile | sh-script | ...) on "How to build the bootable CD-Images"? Thanks in advance, Andreas -- : TSE TeleService GmbH : Gsf: Arne Reuter : : : Hovestrasse 14 : Andreas Braukmann : We do it with : : D-48351 Everswinkel : HRB: 1430, AG WAF : FreeBSD/SMP : :--------------------------------------------------------------------: : PGP-Key: http://www.tse-online.de/~ab/public-key : : Key fingerprint: 12 13 EF BC 22 DD F4 B6 3C 25 C9 06 DC D3 45 9B : To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 08:32:23 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA08779 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 08:32:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mercury.Sun.COM (mercury.Sun.COM [192.9.25.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA08773 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 08:32:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from alk@avalon.East.Sun.COM) Received: from East.Sun.COM ([129.148.1.241]) by mercury.Sun.COM (SMI-8.6/mail.byaddr) with SMTP id IAA06398; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 08:31:41 -0800 Received: from suneast.East.Sun.COM by East.Sun.COM (SMI-8.6/SMI-5.3) id LAA17843; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 11:31:33 -0500 Received: from avalon.east.sun.com ([129.148.7.220]) by suneast.East.Sun.COM (8.9.1b+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA15694; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 11:31:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from alk@localhost) by avalon.east.sun.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA03912; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 10:30:07 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from alk) From: Tony Kimball MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 10:30:07 -0600 (CST) X-Face: \h9Jg:Cuivl4S*UP-)gO.6O=T]]@ncM*tn4zG);)lk#4|lqEx=*talx?.Gk,dMQU2)ptPC17cpBzm(l'M|H8BUF1&]dDCxZ.c~Wy6-j,^V1E(NtX$FpkkdnJixsJHE95JlhO 5\M3jh'YiO7KPCn0~W`Ro44_TB@&JuuqRqgPL'0/{):7rU-%.*@/>q?1&Ed Reply-To: alk@pobox.com To: yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: more psm problems, and an ide thingy References: <13978.54629.887665.309144@avalon.east> <199901120700.QAA12243@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <13979.30637.148907.371510@avalon.east> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Quoth Kazutaka YOKOTA on Tue, 12 January: : : >FYI, and a propos of the other recent mail on this subject, : >I got this on my mode 0 mouse today: : ~~~~~~~~~~~~ What mouse is this? I mean that the mouse is being used in mode 0: Dec 24 16:45:43 avalon /kernel: psm0 at 0x60-0x64 irq 12 on motherboard Dec 24 16:45:43 avalon /kernel: psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 : > Jan 11 16:18:59 avalon /kernel: psmintr: out of sync (0080 != 0000). : : Did you see just one error message? "out of sync" error may often : repeat. Yes, just one. : >and then it stopped working until reboot. : : What exactly happened? Does the mouse pointer didn't move at all? : Or, it moved erratically (i.e. jumped around on the screen)? No motion. Completely non-responsive. No button actions, no roller actions. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 08:36:40 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA09199 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 08:36:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mercury.Sun.COM (mercury.Sun.COM [192.9.25.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA09194 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 08:36:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from alk@avalon.East.Sun.COM) Received: from East.Sun.COM ([129.148.1.241]) by mercury.Sun.COM (SMI-8.6/mail.byaddr) with SMTP id IAA07863; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 08:36:05 -0800 Received: from suneast.East.Sun.COM by East.Sun.COM (SMI-8.6/SMI-5.3) id LAA18920; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 11:35:58 -0500 Received: from avalon.east.sun.com ([129.148.7.220]) by suneast.East.Sun.COM (8.9.1b+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA16053; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 11:35:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from alk@localhost) by avalon.east.sun.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA03930; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 10:34:48 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from alk) From: Tony Kimball MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 10:34:48 -0600 (CST) X-Face: \h9Jg:Cuivl4S*UP-)gO.6O=T]]@ncM*tn4zG);)lk#4|lqEx=*talx?.Gk,dMQU2)ptPC17cpBzm(l'M|H8BUF1&]dDCxZ.c~Wy6-j,^V1E(NtX$FpkkdnJixsJHE95JlhO 5\M3jh'YiO7KPCn0~W`Ro44_TB@&JuuqRqgPL'0/{):7rU-%.*@/>q?1&Ed Reply-To: alk@pobox.com To: lcremean@tidalwave.net Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: more psm problems, and an ide thingy References: <13978.54629.887665.309144@avalon.east> <19990112005228.B68879@tidalwave.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <13979.30872.154200.644754@avalon.east> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Quoth Lee Cremeans on Tue, 12 January: : Oh dear, the UDMA interrupt bugs strike again...what speed is your PCI bus : running at? 33MHz. 440FX SMP. The other drive seems to have no problems at all, and wd2 seems to have problems only when accessing certain areas of the disk: The problem can be reproduced consistently by copying from the same file repeatedly. I had interpreted this as an indication of hdwe failure, but perhaps it just means the timing depends on the disk area in use? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 08:37:28 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA09257 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 08:37:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bright.fx.genx.net (bright.fx.genx.net [206.64.4.154]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA09252 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 08:37:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bright@hotjobs.com) Received: from localhost (bright@localhost) by bright.fx.genx.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA87578; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 11:41:52 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bright@hotjobs.com) X-Authentication-Warning: bright.fx.genx.net: bright owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 11:41:52 -0500 (EST) From: Alfred Perlstein X-Sender: bright@bright.fx.genx.net To: "Frank J. Beckmann" cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: syncing disks ... giving up In-Reply-To: <77e7ao$sar$1@atlantis.rz.tu-clausthal.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 12 Jan 1999, Frank J. Beckmann wrote: > Hi, > > until a few days ago I used 3.0-current elf with a.out kernel of early > december. Then i updated to a curent current and elf kernel. Since then > my disks can't get synced when I do a shutdown. It says "syncing disks..." > and the number of busy local buffers goes down to 5 or for, but not below > that number. Syncing the disks only succedes in one in about 10 times. > me too! When it happens with me i get an SCB message of some sorts, i know this isn't helpful but if it happens again i'll break into the debugger... Alfred Perlstein - Programmer, HotJobs Inc. - www.hotjobs.com -- There are operating systems, and then there's FreeBSD. -- http://www.freebsd.org/ 3.0-current To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 08:46:02 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA10263 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 08:46:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.26.10.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA10239 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 08:45:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bde@godzilla.zeta.org.au) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) id DAA09095; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 03:26:02 +1100 Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 03:26:02 +1100 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199901121626.DAA09095@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: current@FreeBSD.ORG, jhay@mikom.csir.co.za Subject: Re: /usr/obj/elf, /usr/obj/aout, /usr/obj - breaks make all vs make buildworld, and other things. Time to make elf the default Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >I'd like to commit it, but first want to know if there is serious complaints >about it. It was a feature to build the world in a separate subdirectory. `make world' under certain conditions creates .depend files that are inconsistent with ones created by plain `make'. If you know enough about the world building process to avoid problems from this, then you should know enough to use the same obj directory tree for `make' as for `make world' (`MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=whatever make'). I always build worlds in a separate obj tree on purpose. >The effect is that /usr/obj/elf is no longer used for the elf objects. >So if you do a make world and then later go and recompile something in >a subdirectory, it will use the same obj directory. Also snaps and >release source tarballs won't have the stray .o files anymore. `make world' could run `make cleandir' twice to clean up sloppily maintained obj trees. The first pass cleans the canonical object tree if it exists and the source tree otherwise, or parts of each if the canonical object tree is partial. The second pass cleans the source tree. Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 08:47:34 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA10485 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 08:47:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from maild.telia.com (maild.telia.com [194.22.190.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA10480 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 08:47:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from khaled@mailbox.telia.net) Received: from mailbox.telia.net (khaled@mailbox.telia.net [194.237.170.234]) by maild.telia.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA28377; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 17:46:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (khaled@localhost) by mailbox.telia.net (8.9.1/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA22814; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 17:46:48 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 17:46:48 +0100 (CET) From: Khaled Daham To: Christian Weisgerber cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: State of the union, 1999. In-Reply-To: <77bnsu$eq3$1@mips.rhein-neckar.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 11 Jan 1999, Christian Weisgerber wrote: > In article <19990110191559.A7530@pagesz.net>, > Randall Hopper wrote: > > > Anyone selling a slick-looking stuffed daemon (Chuck). My office could use > > some color :-) > > > > Apparently they still haven't gotten around to providing an English > version of their pages. :-( And the fact that it seems impossible to order something from them makes the effort of trying to read german not worth it.. Have tried to order that damn red-freebsd-plushie for 4 months now .. I guess Ill be better of trying to compile one myself :) /Khaled, Telia Network Services Mail: khaled@telia.net Cell: 070-6785492 Work: 08-4567281 :hacker: /n./ [originally, someone who makes furniture with an axe] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 08:50:08 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA10797 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 08:50:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.196.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA10781 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 08:50:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (IDENT:Hyf4kBuOnTBF/IH0bBLnCl2zRfDyOQrO@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA08926; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 01:49:11 +0900 (JST) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.7.6+2.6Wbeta7/3.4W/zodiac-May96) with ESMTP id BAA02764; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 01:51:39 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199901121651.BAA02764@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> To: alk@pobox.com cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp Subject: Re: more psm problems, and an ide thingy In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 12 Jan 1999 10:30:07 CST." <13979.30637.148907.371510@avalon.east> References: <13978.54629.887665.309144@avalon.east> <199901120700.QAA12243@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> <13979.30637.148907.371510@avalon.east> Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 01:51:38 +0900 From: Kazutaka YOKOTA Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >: >I got this on my mode 0 mouse today: >: ~~~~~~~~~~~~ What mouse is this? > >I mean that the mouse is being used in mode 0: ??? Mode 0? What do you mean? I wrote the current version of the psm driver, but have no idea what you are talking about. >Dec 24 16:45:43 avalon /kernel: psm0 at 0x60-0x64 irq 12 on motherboard >Dec 24 16:45:43 avalon /kernel: psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 > >: > Jan 11 16:18:59 avalon /kernel: psmintr: out of sync (0080 != 0000). >: >and then it stopped working until reboot. >: >: What exactly happened? Does the mouse pointer didn't move at all? >: Or, it moved erratically (i.e. jumped around on the screen)? > >No motion. Completely non-responsive. No button actions, no roller >actions. Sounds like the mouse is not sending data anymore. "out of sync" indicate an error, but it's benign in the sense that both the mouse and the driver are not going to stop functioning. Complete halt of the mouse as in your case makes me wonder if the power to the mouse failed for some reason. Does your box has big enough power supply to feed the motherboards, hard disks and all other peripherals? Did you by any chance add something to the system recently? Kazu BTW, your mouse is detected as "Generic PS/2", thus, the psm driver is thinking the mouse has no roller, even if it actually has one. What brand of mouse is it? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 09:06:22 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA12430 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 09:06:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mortar.carlson.com (mortar.carlson.com [208.240.12.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA12421 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 09:06:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from veldy@visi.com) Received: from mortar.carlson.com (root@localhost) by mortar.carlson.com with ESMTP id LAA02540 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 11:04:58 -0600 (CST) Received: from w142844 ([172.25.99.35]) by mortar.carlson.com with SMTP id LAA02536 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 11:04:58 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001301be3e4d$c35d2d20$236319ac@w142844.carlson.com> From: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" To: "FreeBSD-Current" Subject: Boot of secondary IDE master by 3.0.1 branch Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 11:05:31 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I know that this subject has been beaten to death, but I have to ask a very general question. Will /boot/loader be able to boot an elf kernel off of the secondary IDE master (wd2s1a) by the time the source code branches of on the 15th (date ?)? I assume that from that point on we will see both a 3.0 -current and -stable tree. I realize that -stable will take time to stablize, but I would assume that there would have to be a known path to stablization, or it would be no different than -current. I was under the impression that this would require a kernel change so that it would recognize the $rootdev variable as the device to boot from. If this isn't to be in by the branch date, which branch should I follow more closely to get this? Tom Veldhouse veldy@visi.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 09:25:22 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA15001 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 09:25:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from st-lcremean.tidalwave.net (st-lcremean.tidalwave.net [208.213.203.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA14991 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 09:25:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lee@st-lcremean.tidalwave.net) Received: (from lee@localhost) by st-lcremean.tidalwave.net (8.9.1/8.8.8) id MAA01962; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 12:24:28 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from lee) Message-ID: <19990112122428.B1646@tidalwave.net> Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 12:24:28 -0500 From: Lee Cremeans To: alk@pobox.com Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: more psm problems, and an ide thingy Reply-To: lcremean@tidalwave.net References: <13978.54629.887665.309144@avalon.east> <19990112005228.B68879@tidalwave.net> <13979.30872.154200.644754@avalon.east> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <13979.30872.154200.644754@avalon.east>; from Tony Kimball on Tue, Jan 12, 1999 at 10:34:48AM -0600 X-OS: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT X-Evil: microsoft.com Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Jan 12, 1999 at 10:34:48AM -0600, Tony Kimball wrote: > The other drive seems to have no problems at all, and wd2 seems to > have problems only when accessing certain areas of the disk: The > problem can be reproduced consistently by copying from the same file > repeatedly. I had interpreted this as an indication of hdwe failure, > but perhaps it just means the timing depends on the disk area in use? No; if it were a timing problem, it'd be consistent across the disk. If it's concentrated in just one area, then your disk may indeed be bad. -- +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Lee Cremeans -- Manassas, VA, USA (WakkyMouse on DALnet and WTnet)| | lcremean@tidalwave.net| http://st-lcremean.tidalwave.net/~lee | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 09:40:59 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA16716 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 09:40:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (sj-dsl-9-129-138.dspeed.net [209.249.129.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA16711 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 09:40:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA40015; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 09:38:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199901121738.JAA40015@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: tom@tomqnx.com (Tom Torrance at home) cc: culverk@wam.umd.edu (Kenneth Wayne Culver), current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SOFTUPDATES question In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 12 Jan 1999 07:16:16 EST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 09:38:19 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > hand wants its data written immediately to free up the associated memory. > I have a feeling that the softupdates usage would actually increase > memory usage, thereby increasing the swap file utilization - a vicious > circle. > > Anyone else have a better feel for this? > soft updates eats up kernel memory . Cheers, Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 09:43:39 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA16964 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 09:43:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from axl.noc.iafrica.com (axl.noc.iafrica.com [196.31.1.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA16959 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 09:43:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sheldonh@axl.noc.iafrica.com) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.noc.iafrica.com) by axl.noc.iafrica.com with local-esmtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 1007pu-0009Ws-00; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 19:42:38 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: Amancio Hasty cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SOFTUPDATES question In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 12 Jan 1999 09:38:19 PST." <199901121738.JAA40015@rah.star-gate.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 19:42:38 +0200 Message-ID: <36633.916162958@axl.noc.iafrica.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 12 Jan 1999 09:38:19 PST, Amancio Hasty wrote: > soft updates eats up kernel memory . Is this in the context of a swapfs, or is that generally the case for softupdates? Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 09:50:23 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA17890 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 09:50:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from apollo.backplane.com (apollo.backplane.com [209.157.86.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA17883 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 09:50:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA05107; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 09:49:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 09:49:43 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <199901121749.JAA05107@apollo.backplane.com> To: tom@tomqnx.com (Tom Torrance at home) Cc: culverk@wam.umd.edu (Kenneth Wayne Culver), current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SOFTUPDATES question Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :I'm not so sure - essentially softupdates updates in memory and drags its :feet a lot before writing to the actual disk. A swap file on the other :hand wants its data written immediately to free up the associated memory. :I have a feeling that the softupdates usage would actually increase :memory usage, thereby increasing the swap file utilization - a vicious :circle. : :Anyone else have a better feel for this? : :Tom I don't think it makes a big difference memory-wise, because the system tends to try to cache the data for a period of time anyway. -Matt Matthew Dillon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 09:52:28 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA18126 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 09:52:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jumping-spider.aracnet.com (jumping-spider.aracnet.com [205.159.88.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA18119 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 09:52:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from beattie@aracnet.com) Received: from shell2.aracnet.com (IDENT:1728@shell2.aracnet.com [205.159.88.20]) by jumping-spider.aracnet.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id JAA17878; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 09:51:48 -0800 Received: from localhost by shell2.aracnet.com (8.8.7) id JAA26256; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 09:51:43 -0800 Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 09:51:43 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Beattie To: Charlie Root cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: aic0 driver in -CURRENT In-Reply-To: <199901121613.LAA05236@hod.sales.geocities.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 12 Jan 1999, Charlie Root wrote: > I have searched the archives and saw an old thread on the aic driver, but > have seen nothing in the last two weeks, nor on this list. Is there a > current status on this driver? > The driver has bought a house, a fixer. It will be moving in this weekend and hopefully start making progress again shortly thereafter. Brian Beattie | The only problem with beattie@aracnet.com | winning the rat race ... www.aracnet.com/~beattie | in the end you're still a rat To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 09:58:12 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA18686 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 09:58:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zed.ludd.luth.se (zed.ludd.luth.se [130.240.16.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA18669 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 09:58:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pantzer@speedy.ludd.luth.se) Received: from speedy.ludd.luth.se (speedy.ludd.luth.se [130.240.16.164]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA04022; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 18:57:17 +0100 Message-Id: <199901121757.SAA04022@zed.ludd.luth.se> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: Matthew Dillon cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Enabling Softupdates with symlinks? In-Reply-To: Message from Matthew Dillon of "Mon, 11 Jan 1999 16:42:10 PST." <199901120042.QAA98330@apollo.backplane.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 18:36:13 +0100 From: Mattias Pantzare Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > No no ... don't hit the reset key. If you make a mistake and hit reset > just as the HD is writing a sector, you'll loose the sector (or worse). > HD's do *NOT* have enough capacitance on the power bus to finish the > write. They really don't ... it's an computer geek's urban myth. Realy? Why would the power dissapear from the HD when I press the _reset_ button? Is it not a big propability that the HD is writing on a sector at a power failure on a loaded server? The disks usualy survive a power failure with no problems att all. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 10:09:51 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA19772 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 10:09:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from aurora.sol.net (aurora.sol.net [206.55.65.76]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA19767 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 10:09:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jgreco@aurora.sol.net) Received: (from jgreco@localhost) by aurora.sol.net (8.8.8/8.8.8/SNNS-1.02) id MAA08854; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 12:09:13 -0600 (CST) From: Joe Greco Message-Id: <199901121809.MAA08854@aurora.sol.net> Subject: Re: Lots of arpresolve: can't allocate llinfo for rt In-Reply-To: <99Jan11.124000pst.177534@crevenia.parc.xerox.com> from Bill Fenner at "Jan 11, 99 12:39:51 pm" To: fenner@parc.xerox.com (Bill Fenner) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 12:09:13 -0600 (CST) Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Freaky. I'm used to seeing at least a _few_ of these messages after 8 hours. There's none. Nada. Zip. I'll keep an eye on it and see if any further messages appear. If not, what are the chances of this (or equivalent) making it into FreeBSD? THANK YOU BILL! ;-) ... JG > Try this patch. It should either change the error messages to include > an "arplookup" message which might give more info, or fix the problem. > > Bill > > Index: if_ether.c > =================================================================== > RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/netinet/if_ether.c,v > retrieving revision 1.50 > diff -u -r1.50 if_ether.c > --- if_ether.c 1999/01/10 17:40:10 1.50 > +++ if_ether.c 1999/01/11 20:37:29 > @@ -340,7 +340,7 @@ > } > if (rt) > la = (struct llinfo_arp *)rt->rt_llinfo; > - else { > + if (la == 0) { > la = arplookup(SIN(dst)->sin_addr.s_addr, 1, 0); > if (la) > rt = la->la_rt; > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 10:27:51 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA22057 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 10:27:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from orcrist.mediacity.com (orcrist.mediacity.com [208.138.36.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA22052 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 10:27:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gsutter@orcrist.mediacity.com) Received: (from gsutter@localhost) by orcrist.mediacity.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA26956; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 10:26:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gsutter) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 10:26:59 -0800 From: Gregory Sutter To: Kazutaka YOKOTA Cc: "Larry S. Marso" , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sysicons kernel build failure Message-ID: <19990112102659.C25581@orcrist.mediacity.com> References: <19990112093136.B25422@marso.com> <199901121505.AAA29252@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: <199901121505.AAA29252@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp>; from Kazutaka YOKOTA on Wed, Jan 13, 1999 at 12:05:36AM +0900 Organization: Zer0 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Jan 13, 1999 at 12:05:36AM +0900, Kazutaka YOKOTA wrote: > > >Here's a piece where the kernel build began to go awry: > > Please read > > http://www.freebsd.org/~yokota/sc-update.txt > > and update your kernel config file before you rebuild your kernel. That's http://www.freebsd.org/~yokota/sc_update.txt. Greg -- Gregory S. Sutter Was Jimi's modem a Purple Hayes? mailto:gsutter@pobox.com http://www.pobox.com/~gsutter/ PGP DSS public key 0x40AE3052 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 10:38:09 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA23117 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 10:38:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za [146.64.24.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA23100 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 10:38:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhay@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za) Received: (from jhay@localhost) by zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA03327; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 20:37:05 +0200 (SAT) From: John Hay Message-Id: <199901121837.UAA03327@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za> Subject: Re: /usr/obj/elf, /usr/obj/aout, /usr/obj - breaks make all vs make buildworld, and other things. Time to make elf the default In-Reply-To: <199901121626.DAA09095@godzilla.zeta.org.au> from Bruce Evans at "Jan 13, 99 03:26:02 am" To: bde@zeta.org.au (Bruce Evans) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 20:37:05 +0200 (SAT) Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Your tone was so neutral that I'm not sure if you are against it and if it is just informational. :-) Although then it probbably would have come from Terry. :-) > >I'd like to commit it, but first want to know if there is serious complaints > >about it. > > It was a feature to build the world in a separate subdirectory. Was the "feature" on purpose or was it just the way it was done? My impression is that it was done to seperate the elf and aout objects during the first elf transition and when there still might have been aout files lying around from before the aouts were compiled in the aout subdirectory. > `make world' under certain conditions creates .depend files that are > inconsistent with ones created by plain `make'. If you know enough > about the world building process to avoid problems from this, then you > should know enough to use the same obj directory tree for `make' as for > `make world' (`MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=whatever make'). I always build worlds > in a separate obj tree on purpose. Shouldn't we then rather rename it to /usr/obj/world to show what it is used for? Because if I use the normal make I still get elf objects and binaries even though they aren't build in the /usr/obj/elf/... subdirectories. > > >The effect is that /usr/obj/elf is no longer used for the elf objects. > >So if you do a make world and then later go and recompile something in > >a subdirectory, it will use the same obj directory. Also snaps and > >release source tarballs won't have the stray .o files anymore. > > `make world' could run `make cleandir' twice to clean up sloppily > maintained obj trees. The first pass cleans the canonical object tree > if it exists and the source tree otherwise, or parts of each if the > canonical object tree is partial. The second pass cleans the source > tree. More than that is needed for make release. Some parts like the building of the floppy images with crunchgen assume that make and make world still work like it did before elf, no objformat object subdirectory and that both compile in the same directory. While all those things could be fixed and I can probably put 'setenv MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=whatever' in my .cshrc file, it just looked a bit easier and more permanent to fix Makefile.inc0 now that elf is the default. Hmmm. Another option might be to make MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj/elf the default, so that it will also be used by normal make. Although I don't like this so much, because when we finally get rid of all the aout things, we will sit with an unnecessary elf directory in the /usr/obj directory. > > Bruce > John -- John Hay -- John.Hay@mikom.csir.co.za To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 10:41:45 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA23337 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 10:41:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from alpha.xerox.com (alpha.Xerox.COM [13.1.64.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA23332 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 10:41:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fenner@parc.xerox.com) Received: from crevenia.parc.xerox.com ([13.2.116.11]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <56119(1)>; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 10:41:06 PST Received: from localhost by crevenia.parc.xerox.com with SMTP id <177534>; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 10:40:48 -0800 To: Joe Greco cc: fenner@parc.xerox.com (Bill Fenner), current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Lots of arpresolve: can't allocate llinfo for rt In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 12 Jan 99 10:09:13 PST." <199901121809.MAA08854@aurora.sol.net> Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 10:40:37 PST From: Bill Fenner Message-Id: <99Jan12.104048pst.177534@crevenia.parc.xerox.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <199901121809.MAA08854@aurora.sol.net> you write: >I'll keep an eye on it and see if any further messages appear. If not, >what are the chances of this (or equivalent) making it into FreeBSD? I'll commit it soon. (I'll wait another 24 hours to make sure you don't come back and say "NOOOOO, my machine just crashed into the ocean and sank to the bottom!"...) Bill To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 11:12:10 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA27036 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 11:12:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from awfulhak.org (awfulhak.force9.co.uk [195.166.136.63]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA27017 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 11:12:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (brian@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org [172.16.0.8]) by awfulhak.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA23405; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 19:11:25 GMT (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (brian@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA13855; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 18:10:34 GMT (envelope-from brian@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <199901121810.SAA13855@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Khaled Daham cc: Christian Weisgerber , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: State of the union, 1999. In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 12 Jan 1999 17:46:48 +0100." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 18:10:34 +0000 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > And the fact that it seems impossible to order something from them makes > the effort of trying to read german not worth it.. Have tried to order > that damn red-freebsd-plushie for 4 months now .. I guess Ill be better of > trying to compile one myself :) Someone should add it as a port :-) > /Khaled, Telia Network Services -- Brian Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 11:45:54 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA01335 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 11:45:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from roma.coe.ufrj.br (roma.coe.ufrj.br [146.164.53.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA01325 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 11:45:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jonny@jonny.eng.br) Received: (from jonny@localhost) by roma.coe.ufrj.br (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA15031 for current@freebsd.org; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 15:37:03 -0200 (EDT) (envelope-from jonny) From: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis Message-Id: <199901121737.PAA15031@roma.coe.ufrj.br> Subject: 3.0.0-19990105-SNAP install problems. To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 15:37:03 -0200 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi. Yesterday I tried to install 3.0.0-19990105-SNAP at home, and had some problems. 1) It could not recognize my distributions files at the DOS partition. I've done this lots of times, so the probability of human error is small (although possible). Is there any name convention change in the directory structure (not reflected in the install docs)? Or maybe a problem with VFAT and mixed case names ? 2) The fixit floppy is now mounted at /dist and not at /mnt2, thus the default path does not include its files. 3) fbsdboot.exe (from 2.2.7 CD) cannot load its kernel (after extraction from boot.flp, of course). I did not expect this to work, though (is this snap already with an ELF kernel ?). Has somebody sucessfully installed this snap from a DOS partition ? Thanks for any help. BTW: In any case, I'll probably wait for the next weekend and get a new snap. :) Jonny -- Joao Carlos Mendes Luis M.Sc. Student jonny@jonny.eng.br Universidade Federal do Rio de Janeiro "This .sig is not meant to be politically correct." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 11:51:54 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA02086 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 11:51:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles228.castles.com [208.214.165.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA02068 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 11:51:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA05231; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 11:47:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199901121947.LAA05231@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: alk@pobox.com cc: lcremean@tidalwave.net, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: more psm problems, and an ide thingy In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 12 Jan 1999 10:34:48 CST." <13979.30872.154200.644754@avalon.east> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 11:47:52 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Quoth Lee Cremeans on Tue, 12 January: > : Oh dear, the UDMA interrupt bugs strike again...what speed is your PCI bus > : running at? > > 33MHz. 440FX SMP. > > The other drive seems to have no problems at all, and wd2 seems to > have problems only when accessing certain areas of the disk: The > problem can be reproduced consistently by copying from the same file > repeatedly. I had interpreted this as an indication of hdwe failure, > but perhaps it just means the timing depends on the disk area in use? It's typically indicative of slow error-recovery action on the part of the drive. You have a not-quite-dead-yet area on the disk, and the drive is taking its sweet time getting data off it. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 12:42:28 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA08708 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 12:42:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA08681 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 12:42:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from des@flood.ping.uio.no) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA69563; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 21:41:26 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from des) To: Kazutaka YOKOTA Cc: Forrest Aldrich , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: New errors in building kernel 3.0-current References: <4.1.19990111142728.009db210@206.25.93.69> <199901112213.HAA24634@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 12 Jan 1999 21:41:24 +0100 In-Reply-To: Kazutaka YOKOTA's message of "Tue, 12 Jan 1999 07:13:57 +0900" Message-ID: Lines: 11 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kazutaka YOKOTA writes: > Add > pseudo-device splash > to your kernel config. Just MHO - if syscons won't compile without splash, what's the use of having splash as a separate pseudo-device? DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 12:44:34 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA08894 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 12:44:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cimlogic.com.au (cimlog.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.51.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA08889 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 12:44:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jb@cimlogic.com.au) Received: (from jb@localhost) by cimlogic.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA08298; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 07:45:25 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from jb) From: John Birrell Message-Id: <199901122045.HAA08298@cimlogic.com.au> Subject: Re: /usr/obj/elf, /usr/obj/aout, /usr/obj - breaks make all vs make buildworld, and other things. Time to make elf the default In-Reply-To: <199901121837.UAA03327@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za> from John Hay at "Jan 12, 1999 8:37: 5 pm" To: jhay@mikom.csir.co.za (John Hay) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 07:45:25 +1100 (EST) Cc: bde@zeta.org.au, current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG John Hay wrote: > > It was a feature to build the world in a separate subdirectory. > > Was the "feature" on purpose or was it just the way it was done? My > impression is that it was done to seperate the elf and aout objects > during the first elf transition and when there still might have been > aout files lying around from before the aouts were compiled in the > aout subdirectory. It was done to ensure that the elf build didn't see any turds from previous aout builds. This still applies to people upgrading from 2.2.X or 3.0-CURRENT pre 3.0-RELEASE (ugh what stupid numbering we have!). I wanted to modify `make' to treat all object directories that way (instead of using the existing MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX), but I didn't want to add the object format checking code without a library function (to avoid duplicating code all over the tree). I convinced jdp to add getobjformat(3) to libc, however the timing was too close to 3.0-RELEASE to make the change. We regularly see people complaining about build problems that are the result of them doing a make in specific directories outside a make world. I think that the number of developers who want make world to share the object directories with their individual makes out-weighs my desire to stop people shooting themselves in the foot (when they probably shouldn't be using -current anyway). > Hmmm. Another option might be to make MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj/elf > the default, so that it will also be used by normal make. Although > I don't like this so much, because when we finally get rid of all > the aout things, we will sit with an unnecessary elf directory in > the /usr/obj directory. Another reason why I wanted the extra object directory level was to help support cross-compilation. I don't like the NetBSD way of creating obj.i386 etc directories. I was hoping to be able to set OBJFORMAT to alpha-elf64 (for instance) on i386 and have that build the world in /usr/obj/alpha-elf64. Support for this would still require lots of changes to other makefiles which check OBJFORMAT==elf. Since most people only care about i386 (and to a lesser extent alpha), I doubt that the cross-compilation issues are worth considering at this point. People are too ready to shoot down any new ideas. -- John Birrell - jb@cimlogic.com.au; jb@freebsd.org http://www.cimlogic.com.au/ CIMlogic Pty Ltd, GPO Box 117A, Melbourne Vic 3001, Australia +61 418 353 137 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 12:49:21 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA09502 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 12:49:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA09494 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 12:49:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from des@flood.ping.uio.no) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA69590; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 21:48:24 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from des) To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: jack , Mike Smith , Andrzej Bialecki , John Hay , dfr@nlsystems.com, jwd@unx.sas.com, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Boot.flp doesn't References: <58185.916097190@zippy.cdrom.com> From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 12 Jan 1999 21:48:22 +0100 In-Reply-To: "Jordan K. Hubbard"'s message of "Mon, 11 Jan 1999 15:26:30 -0800" Message-ID: Lines: 10 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Jordan K. Hubbard" writes: > I think the best idea proposed to date is to have a network installation > floppy and an "all other media" floppy. Ummm, what about a "net + CD-ROM" floppy and a "all other media" floppy? or are the CD-ROM drivers (SCSI + ATAPI) too large? DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 12:51:27 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA09738 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 12:51:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from janus.syracuse.net (janus.syracuse.net [205.232.47.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA09730 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 12:51:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from green@unixhelp.org) Received: from localhost (green@localhost) by janus.syracuse.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA03183; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 15:50:33 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 15:50:33 -0500 (EST) From: Brian Feldman X-Sender: green@janus.syracuse.net To: Chuck Robey cc: Daniel Eischen , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: XiG Motif - FreeBSD ELF In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 11 Jan 1999, Chuck Robey wrote: > On Mon, 11 Jan 1999, Daniel Eischen wrote: > > > > > I sent an Email off to Xig inquiring about a FreeBSD ELF version of > > the Accelerated X server and Motif. The response was: > > > > > Dan, > > > Unfortunately, we don't yet support ELF, and we haven't decided > > > yet if we're going to. I will let engineering know that you would > > > like support for 3.0, but I can't promise that we'll be supporting it. > > > I apologize for the inconvenience. > > > > If others, like me, would really like an ELF version of Motif and the > > Accelerated X server, please send your requests to Xig (sales@xig.com). > > > > Feel free to re-post this to another list if -current isn't deemed > > appropriate. > > I started bugging them about it months ago, and last month I finally got > advised that they had no plans to introduce any elf Motif at all. Until > then, they gave me that same response I got from you. I wasn't > endlessly bugging them, just a polite reminder about once every 45 days. > They sound like a lost cause to me. You can forward this to them if you > want. If you have the sources, the Imakefiles are WAY too b0rked to use :( But it can be compiled pretty easily, as evident by my copy of ELF Motif 2.0. But I really think: if you want Motif so much, why not just help out the Lesstif project with whatever needs to be done? Lesstif is a very usable Motif replacement... and seems to be quite a bit less buggy than Motif itself! > > > > > Dan Eischen > > eischen@vigrid.com > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > > > > > > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- > Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data > chuckr@glue.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. > 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | > Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and picnic (FreeBSD-current) > (301) 220-2114 | and jaunt (NetBSD). > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > Brian Feldman _ __ ___ ___ ___ green@unixhelp.org _ __ ___ | _ ) __| \ http://www.freebsd.org/ _ __ ___ ____ | _ \__ \ |) | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! _ __ ___ ____ _____ |___/___/___/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 12:52:52 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA09914 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 12:52:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from poboxer.pobox.com (port1.prairietech.net [208.141.230.78]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA09906 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 12:52:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from alk@poboxer.pobox.com) Received: (from alk@localhost) by poboxer.pobox.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA05128; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 14:51:12 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from alk) From: Tony Kimball MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 14:51:12 -0600 (CST) X-Face: \h9Jg:Cuivl4S*UP-)gO.6O=T]]@ncM*tn4zG);)lk#4|lqEx=*talx?.Gk,dMQU2)ptPC17cpBzm(l'M|H8BUF1&]dDCxZ.c~Wy6-j,^V1E(NtX$FpkkdnJixsJHE95JlhO 5\M3jh'YiO7KPCn0~W`Ro44_TB@&JuuqRqgPL'0/{):7rU-%.*@/>q?1&Ed Reply-To: alk@pobox.com To: yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp Cc: alk@pobox.com, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: more psm problems, and an ide thingy References: <13978.54629.887665.309144@avalon.east> <199901120700.QAA12243@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> <13979.30637.148907.371510@avalon.east> <199901121651.BAA02764@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <13979.46142.584466.905568@avalon.east> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Quoth Kazutaka YOKOTA on Wed, 13 January: : ??? Mode 0? What do you mean? I wrote the current version of the : psm driver, but have no idea what you are talking about. Then I am clearly speaking nonsense. Note to self: Stop that! Sorry. : Complete halt of the mouse as in your case makes me wonder if the : power to the mouse failed for some reason. This would only make sense if there were some reason to believe that rebooting would cause power to be restored. : Does your box has big : enough power supply to feed the motherboards, hard disks and all other : peripherals? To the best of my knowledge, yes. : Did you by any chance add something to the system : recently? No. I did remove a disk drive. : BTW, your mouse is detected as "Generic PS/2", thus, the psm driver is : thinking the mouse has no roller, even if it actually has one. What : brand of mouse is it? Perhaps I misspoke, and "roller" is a technical term -- I meant the ball which rolls when the mouse is moved. The only branding information on the device is the label "Made in China". "Generic PS/2" is very accurate, and is in fact what I had meant when I said "mode 0". Don't ask me why I said that, though! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 12:58:28 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA10359 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 12:58:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA10352 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 12:58:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from julian@whistle.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by alpo.whistle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA13569; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 12:54:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from current1.whistle.com(207.76.205.22) via SMTP by alpo.whistle.com, id smtpdL13563; Tue Jan 12 20:54:45 1999 Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 12:54:42 -0800 (PST) From: Julian Elischer To: Mattias Pantzare cc: Matthew Dillon , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Enabling Softupdates with symlinks? In-Reply-To: <199901121757.SAA04022@zed.ludd.luth.se> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 12 Jan 1999, Mattias Pantzare wrote: > > > No no ... don't hit the reset key. If you make a mistake and hit reset > > just as the HD is writing a sector, you'll loose the sector (or worse). > > HD's do *NOT* have enough capacitance on the power bus to finish the > > write. They really don't ... it's an computer geek's urban myth. > > Realy? Why would the power dissapear from the HD when I press the _reset_ > button? > > Is it not a big propability that the HD is writing on a sector at a power > failure on a loaded server? The disks usualy survive a power failure with no > problems att all. > It's even less of a probability that it's writing hwen you are in singe user mode with / mounted read-only.. (which is how this should be done unless you use a floppy or luoqi's fix) > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 13:15:57 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA12050 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 13:15:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from trinity.radio-do.de (trinity.Radio-do.de [193.101.164.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA12040 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 13:15:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fn@trinity.radio-do.de) Received: (from fn@localhost) by trinity.radio-do.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA29556; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 22:15:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from fn) To: Julian Elischer Cc: Kenneth Wayne Culver , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SOFTUPDATES References: From: Frank Nobis Date: 12 Jan 1999 22:15:04 +0100 In-Reply-To: Julian Elischer's message of "Sun, 10 Jan 1999 16:20:17 -0800 (PST)" Message-ID: Lines: 29 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070065 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.65) XEmacs/20.4 (Emerald) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "Julian" == Julian Elischer writes: Julian> also the slower the drive being written to the more Julian> softupdates helps :-) it makes best sence to make /usr/obj Julian> an slow drive with softupates on it :-) I did same testing: 1st test: Everything on one partition /usr on the fast drive: make -j builworld takes 52:21 2nd test: /usr/src on the fast drive, /usr/obj on the slower drive: make -j builworld takes 49:46 Both with softupdates of course. Gruß Frank -- Frank Nobis Email: PGP AVAILABLE Landgrafenstr. 130 dg3dcn http://www.radio-do.de/~fn/ 44139 Dortmund Powered by SMP FreeBSD To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 13:16:58 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA12128 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 13:16:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from axl.noc.iafrica.com (axl.noc.iafrica.com [196.31.1.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA12111 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 13:16:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sheldonh@axl.noc.iafrica.com) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.noc.iafrica.com) by axl.noc.iafrica.com with local-esmtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 100Am4-000A9K-00; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 22:50:52 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav cc: Kazutaka YOKOTA , Forrest Aldrich , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: New errors in building kernel 3.0-current In-reply-to: Your message of "12 Jan 1999 21:41:24 +0100." Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 22:50:51 +0200 Message-ID: <39017.916174251@axl.noc.iafrica.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 12 Jan 1999 21:41:24 +0100, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > Just MHO - if syscons won't compile without splash, what's the use of > having splash as a separate pseudo-device? I understood from an earlier message to this list from the author that the dependency was not intentional and would soon be fixed. Ciao Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 13:19:45 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA12421 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 13:19:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bright.fx.genx.net (bright.fx.genx.net [206.64.4.154]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA12416 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 13:19:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bright@hotjobs.com) Received: from localhost (bright@localhost) by bright.fx.genx.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA87977; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 16:23:44 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bright@hotjobs.com) X-Authentication-Warning: bright.fx.genx.net: bright owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 16:23:44 -0500 (EST) From: Alfred Perlstein X-Sender: bright@bright.fx.genx.net To: John Birrell cc: John Hay , bde@zeta.org.au, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: /usr/obj/elf, /usr/obj/aout, /usr/obj - breaks make all vs make buildworld, and other things. Time to make elf the default In-Reply-To: <199901122045.HAA08298@cimlogic.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 13 Jan 1999, John Birrell wrote: > Since most people only care about i386 (and to a lesser extent alpha), > I doubt that the cross-compilation issues are worth considering at this > point. People are too ready to shoot down any new ideas. Anything to improve the state of cross compiling is a good thing. Anyone who thinks otherwise is being a stick in the mud and should be ignored. -Alfred > > -- > John Birrell - jb@cimlogic.com.au; jb@freebsd.org http://www.cimlogic.com.au/ > CIMlogic Pty Ltd, GPO Box 117A, Melbourne Vic 3001, Australia +61 418 353 137 > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 13:26:04 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA13230 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 13:26:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from whizzo.transsys.com (whizzo.TransSys.COM [144.202.42.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA13221 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 13:26:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from louie@whizzo.transsys.com) Received: from whizzo.transsys.com (localhost.transsys.com [127.0.0.1]) by whizzo.transsys.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA24281; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 16:24:58 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from louie@whizzo.transsys.com) Message-Id: <199901122124.QAA24281@whizzo.transsys.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: John Birrell cc: jhay@mikom.csir.co.za (John Hay), bde@zeta.org.au, current@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Louis A. Mamakos" Subject: Re: /usr/obj/elf, /usr/obj/aout, /usr/obj - breaks make all vs make buildworld, and other things. Time to make elf the default References: <199901122045.HAA08298@cimlogic.com.au> In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 13 Jan 1999 07:45:25 +1100." <199901122045.HAA08298@cimlogic.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 16:24:58 -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I think that the desired effect is that after doing a 'make world' or 'make buildworld' you can easily go to some arbitrary place in the source tree, type 'make', and have the right thing happen. That is, use the object that we previously built with 'make [build]world'. Personally, I don't care if it's all rooted at /usr/obj or /usr/obj/elf, but that that the default resolves to the same prefix that make world uses. louie To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 13:32:55 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA13988 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 13:32:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA13983 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 13:32:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from des@flood.ping.uio.no) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA69711; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 22:31:57 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from des) To: Kenjiro Cho Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HZ missing in options? References: <199901120547.OAA08014@hotaka.csl.sony.co.jp> From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 12 Jan 1999 22:31:56 +0100 In-Reply-To: Kenjiro Cho's message of "Tue, 12 Jan 1999 14:47:36 +0900" Message-ID: Lines: 9 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kenjiro Cho writes: > Is there any reason why HZ isn't listed in sys/conf/options? > Or just an oversight? If so, I'll add the following line. Perhaps because it's not a user-tunable option? or is it? DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 13:35:00 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA14200 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 13:35:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pcnet1.pcnet.com (pcnet1.pcnet.com [204.213.232.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA14194 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 13:34:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eischen@vigrid.com) Received: (from eischen@localhost) by pcnet1.pcnet.com (8.8.7/PCNet) id QAA04922; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 16:33:51 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 16:33:51 -0500 (EST) From: Daniel Eischen Message-Id: <199901122133.QAA04922@pcnet1.pcnet.com> To: chuckr@mat.net, green@unixhelp.org Subject: Re: XiG Motif - FreeBSD ELF Cc: eischen@vigrid.com, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > If you have the sources, the Imakefiles are WAY too b0rked to use :( But it > can be compiled pretty easily, as evident by my copy of ELF Motif 2.0. But > I really think: if you want Motif so much, why not just help out the Lesstif > project with whatever needs to be done? Lesstif is a very usable Motif > replacement... and seems to be quite a bit less buggy than Motif itself! Not to take anything away from the Lesstif folks, but the last time I tried it, it was very buggy. Perhaps things have changed and it's worth another look, but one only has so much spare time to contribute to Free^h^h^h^hOSS projects. I'd rather spend mine fiddling with FreeBSD bits. At any rate, this is getting away from -current issues. I just wanted folks running ELF to express their interest in ELF Accelerated X and Motif versions to XiG. Dan Eischen eischen@vigrid.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 13:38:19 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA14449 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 13:38:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pcnet1.pcnet.com (pcnet1.pcnet.com [204.213.232.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA14444 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 13:38:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eischen@vigrid.com) Received: (from eischen@localhost) by pcnet1.pcnet.com (8.8.7/PCNet) id QAA05426; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 16:37:26 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 16:37:26 -0500 (EST) From: Daniel Eischen Message-Id: <199901122137.QAA05426@pcnet1.pcnet.com> To: des@flood.ping.uio.no, kjc@csl.sony.co.jp Subject: Re: HZ missing in options? Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Kenjiro Cho writes: > > Is there any reason why HZ isn't listed in sys/conf/options? > > Or just an oversight? If so, I'll add the following line. > > Perhaps because it's not a user-tunable option? or is it? I and others have been using it that way. Please, let's add this. Dan Eischen eischen@vigrid.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 13:40:52 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA14611 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 13:40:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from boltzmann.physics.uoi.gr (boltzmann.physics.uoi.gr [195.130.115.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA14606 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 13:40:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hlias@boltzmann.physics.uoi.gr) Received: from localhost (hlias@localhost) by boltzmann.physics.uoi.gr (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA04567 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 23:40:00 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from hlias@boltzmann.physics.uoi.gr) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 23:40:00 +0200 (EET) From: Ilias Sachpazidis To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: XiG Motif - FreeBSD ELF In-Reply-To: <199901122133.QAA04922@pcnet1.pcnet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG unsubscribe freebsd-current To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 13:42:14 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA14846 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 13:42:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bright.fx.genx.net (bright.fx.genx.net [206.64.4.154]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA14839 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 13:42:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bright@hotjobs.com) Received: from localhost (bright@localhost) by bright.fx.genx.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA88005; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 16:46:40 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bright@hotjobs.com) X-Authentication-Warning: bright.fx.genx.net: bright owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 16:46:40 -0500 (EST) From: Alfred Perlstein X-Sender: bright@bright.fx.genx.net To: Chuck Robey cc: Daniel Eischen , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: XiG Motif - FreeBSD ELF In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 12 Jan 1999, Brian Feldman wrote: > > > If others, like me, would really like an ELF version of Motif and the > > > Accelerated X server, please send your requests to Xig (sales@xig.com). > > > > > > Feel free to re-post this to another list if -current isn't deemed > > > appropriate. > > > > I started bugging them about it months ago, and last month I finally got > > advised that they had no plans to introduce any elf Motif at all. Until > > then, they gave me that same response I got from you. I wasn't > > endlessly bugging them, just a polite reminder about once every 45 days. > > They sound like a lost cause to me. You can forward this to them if you > > want. Xig says that they may support ELF, but aren't sure. Someone needs to keep them informed, as a sales rep was happy to tell me that 2.2.8 support was coming soon :/ They have a minute chance of considering DGA support. Something i don't understand that well... "So your X server is really fast except when applications need it to be blindingly fast???" GIMME MY DGA! :( -Alfred To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 13:46:56 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA15346 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 13:46:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bright.fx.genx.net (bright.fx.genx.net [206.64.4.154]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA15341 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 13:46:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bright@hotjobs.com) Received: from localhost (bright@localhost) by bright.fx.genx.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA88021; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 16:51:20 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bright@hotjobs.com) X-Authentication-Warning: bright.fx.genx.net: bright owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 16:51:20 -0500 (EST) From: Alfred Perlstein X-Sender: bright@bright.fx.genx.net To: Daniel Eischen cc: chuckr@mat.net, green@unixhelp.org, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: XiG Motif - FreeBSD ELF In-Reply-To: <199901122133.QAA04922@pcnet1.pcnet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 12 Jan 1999, Daniel Eischen wrote: > > If you have the sources, the Imakefiles are WAY too b0rked to use :( But it > > can be compiled pretty easily, as evident by my copy of ELF Motif 2.0. But > > I really think: if you want Motif so much, why not just help out the Lesstif > > project with whatever needs to be done? Lesstif is a very usable Motif > > replacement... and seems to be quite a bit less buggy than Motif itself! > > Not to take anything away from the Lesstif folks, but the last time > I tried it, it was very buggy. Perhaps things have changed and it's > worth another look, but one only has so much spare time to contribute > to Free^h^h^h^hOSS projects. I'd rather spend mine fiddling with > FreeBSD bits. lesstif has seen dramatic improvements in the last few months because of Mozilla efforts. Yes, it used to be horrid, this is not the case anymore. > At any rate, this is getting away from -current issues. I just wanted > folks running ELF to express their interest in ELF Accelerated X and > Motif versions to XiG. Already done, with some positive feedback from Xig. -Alfred > > Dan Eischen > eischen@vigrid.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 13:57:53 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA16648 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 13:57:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.26.10.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA16643 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 13:57:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bde@godzilla.zeta.org.au) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA32727; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 08:57:13 +1100 Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 08:57:13 +1100 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199901122157.IAA32727@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: fenner@parc.xerox.com, jgreco@solaria.sol.net Subject: Re: Lots of arpresolve: can't allocate llinfo for rt Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >getting a bit irritating... I'm using a serial console and during very >heavy message-spews, the machine seems to "freeze" for seconds at a time >and I'm pretty sure its because the system is waiting for the 9600 baud >console to print. I've got a whole different set of complaints about the >serial console handling, oh well. Try this patch. ttymsg() can fill up the process table for heavy message-spews. Serial console handling is relatively perfect :-). Bruce diff -c2 ttymsg.c~ ttymsg.c *** ttymsg.c~ Sat Jul 25 04:51:47 1998 --- ttymsg.c Sat Jul 25 04:52:56 1998 *************** *** 42,45 **** --- 42,46 ---- #include #include + #include #include #include *************** *** 70,74 **** register int cnt, fd, left, wret; struct iovec localiov[7]; ! int forked = 0; if (iovcnt > sizeof(localiov) / sizeof(localiov[0])) --- 71,92 ---- register int cnt, fd, left, wret; struct iovec localiov[7]; ! int forked = 0, status; ! static pid_t cpid = 0; ! pid_t pid; ! ! /* ! * Don't do anything if a child is still alive. Interleaved ! * output would not be good, and filling the process table with ! * as many children as we can fork before the timeout kills them ! * would be worse. Waiting here also reduces the need to handle ! * SIGCHLD in callers. ! */ ! if (cpid) { ! pid = waitpid(cpid, &status, WNOHANG); ! if (pid == cpid || (pid == -1 || errno == ECHILD)) ! cpid = 0; ! else ! return (NULL); ! } if (iovcnt > sizeof(localiov) / sizeof(localiov[0])) *************** *** 121,125 **** } if (errno == EWOULDBLOCK) { ! int cpid, off = 0; if (forked) { --- 139,143 ---- } if (errno == EWOULDBLOCK) { ! int off = 0; if (forked) { To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 14:04:43 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA17499 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 14:04:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtpott1.nortel.ca (smtpott1.nortel.ca [192.58.194.78]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA17494 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 14:04:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from atrens@nortelnetworks.com) Received: from zcars01t by smtpott1; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 17:03:44 -0500 Received: from wmerh01z.ca.nortel.com by zcars01t; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 17:03:13 -0500 Received: from hcarp00g.ca.nortel.com (atrens@hcarp00g.ca.nortel.com@wmerh01z) by wmerh01z.ca.nortel.com with ESMTP (8.7.1/8.7.1) id RAA03569; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 17:03:12 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 17:12:13 -0500 (EST) From: "Andrew Atrens" Reply-To: "Andrew Atrens" To: current@FreeBSD.ORG cc: lcremean@tidalwave.net Subject: Re: potential ide_pci.c bugster In-Reply-To: <19990112004945.A68879@tidalwave.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi All, I've been experiencing pci-ide timeouts of the showstopper variety. Lee has postulated that this has to do with my bus speed 83Mhz .. so I reclocked to 66Mhz and the behaviour persists. I've appended the original mail I sent to Lee, along with (just for fun) my kernel config and dmesg output. Note that I haven't been able to capture the dmesg output inspired by the below patch - the system locks up tighter than a drum. I did however transcribe the following (hopefully relevant bits) by hand ... wd0: interrupt timeout (status 50 error 0) wd0: wdtimeout() DMA status 1 Interesting thing is this drive, wd0, is about 2 years old and doesn't support UDMA. While wd1, a new drive, does do UDMA. My system is current as of yesterday. I'm not sure why the below patch tickles this bug, any suggestions/insights you can provide would be greatly appreciated. Regards, Andrew. -- +----------------------------------------------------+ = Andrew Atrens - Nortel Networks (atrens@nortel.ca) = = P.O. Box 3511, Station C Ottawa, Canada = = = = All opinions expressed are mine, not Nortel's. = +----------------------------------------------------+ (original message follows) Lee, Around the middle of December you (actually Mike on behalf of you) committed a patch to pci_ide.c which has since been hosing my system: # diff -c /home/cvs/sys/pci/ide_pci.c* *** /home/cvs/sys/pci/ide_pci.c Mon Jan 11 19:29:54 1999 --- /home/cvs/sys/pci/ide_pci.c.ctm Mon Jan 11 19:28:35 1999 *************** *** 1195,1201 **** cp = softc.cookies.lh_first; while(cp) { ! if (cp->ctlr == unit && ((iobase_wd == 0) || (cp->iobase_wd == iobase_wd))) break; cp = cp->le.le_next; --- 1195,1201 ---- cp = softc.cookies.lh_first; while(cp) { ! if (cp->unit == unit && ((iobase_wd == 0) || (cp->iobase_wd == iobase_wd))) break; cp = cp->le.le_next; With this commit, my system freezes on boot with DMA timeout messages when it tries to mount root on wd1. It's a total showstopper. >>> (oops, that should have been wd0) I disabled DMA (ala wdc0 flags) and everything worked, though of course more slowly. :) So, instead I chose to back out your change, and wait to see if anyone else fell in the pit. Since the mailing list seems to be pretty silent on the topic, maybe it's just me :) ... I've got an ABIT motherboard with TX chipset, bussed at 83MHz, that seems to run quick enough: --root@churchill:/var/log-- # dd if=/dev/rwd0 of=/dev/null bs=1024k count=50 50+0 records in 50+0 records out 52428800 bytes transferred in 10.040942 secs (5221502 bytes/sec) --root@churchill:/var/log-- # dd if=/dev/rwd1 of=/dev/null bs=1024k count=50 50+0 records in 50+0 records out 52428800 bytes transferred in 4.538576 secs (11551817 bytes/sec) wd0 doesn't do udma, while wd1 does, with dma disabled both drives perform comparably. --- (here's my kernel config) machine "i386" cpu "I586_CPU" ident CHURCHILL maxusers 32 options USERCONFIG options INCLUDE_CONFIG_FILE options SOFTUPDATES options INET options FFS options FFS_ROOT options NFS options NFS_ROOT options MFS options MFS_ROOT options "CD9660" options "CD9660_ROOT" options "CD9660_ROOTDELAY=20" options MSDOSFS options PROCFS options "COMPAT_43" options "COMPAT_LINUX" options USER_LDT options "VM86" options VESA options UCONSOLE options SYSVSHM options SYSVSEM options SYSVMSG options ATAPI options ATAPI_STATIC options PQ_LARGECACHE options "CPU_WT_ALLOC" options "NO_MEMORY_HOLE" options "NO_F00F_HACK" options NSWAPDEV=2 options "MD5" config kernel root on wd0 dumps on wd0 controller isa0 controller pnp0 controller pci0 controller fdc0 at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio irq 6 drq 2 disk fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 controller wdc0 at isa? port "IO_WD1" bio irq 14 flags 0xb0ffb0ff disk wd0 at wdc0 drive 0 disk wd1 at wdc0 drive 1 controller wdc1 at isa? port "IO_WD2" bio irq 15 flags 0xb0ffb0ff device acd0 device acd1 controller atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD tty device atkbd0 at isa? tty irq 1 device psm0 at isa? tty irq 12 device vga0 at isa? port ? conflicts pseudo-device splash device sc0 at isa? tty options MAXCONS=16 # number of virtual consoles options SC_HISTORY_SIZE=200 # number of history buffer lines device npx0 at isa? port "IO_NPX" iosiz 0x0 flags 0x0 irq 13 device pcm0 at isa? port 0x530 tty irq 10 drq 1 flags 0x0 device sio0 at isa? port "IO_COM1" tty irq 4 device sio1 at isa? port "IO_COM2" tty irq 3 device lpt0 at isa? port "IO_LPT2" tty irq 5 device tw0 at isa? port "IO_LPT3" tty irq 7 device ed0 at isa? port 0x240 net irq 9 iomem ? pseudo-device loop pseudo-device ether pseudo-device sl 2 pseudo-device ppp 2 pseudo-device tun 2 pseudo-device pty 128 pseudo-device gzip pseudo-device vn pseudo-device bpfilter 4 (here's dmesg and friends) (hmm, it seems pnp doesn't see my soundcard anymore ... ) Copyright (c) 1992-1999 FreeBSD Inc. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT #4: Mon Jan 11 22:05:55 EST 1999 root@churchill:/home/cvs/sys/compile/CHURCHILL Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz Timecounter "TSC" frequency 334092111 Hz CPU: AMD-K6(tm) 3D processor (334.09-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x58c Stepping=12 Features=0x8021bf real memory = 67108864 (65536K bytes) config> pnp 1 0 os enable irq0 10 drq0 1 config> pnp 1 0 os enable port0 0x220 port1 0x530 port2 0x388 config> pnp 1 0 os enable port3 0x300 port4 0x370 config> quit avail memory = 62390272 (60928K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel1" at 0xf02bc000. Preloaded userconfig_script "/boot/pnp.conf" at 0xf02bc09c. Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: chip0: rev 0x01 on pci0.0.0 chip1: rev 0x01 on pci0.7.0 ide_pci0: rev 0x01 on pci0.7.1 chip2: rev 0x01 on pci0.7.3 vga0: rev 0x5c on pci0.11.0 ed1: rev 0x00 int a irq 11 on pci0.13.0 ed1: address 00:40:05:59:30:f0, type NE2000 (16 bit) Probing for PnP devices: Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 on isa sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> ed0 at 0x240-0x25f irq 9 on isa ed0: address 00:40:05:48:11:c9, type NE2000 (16 bit) pcm0 not found at 0x530 atkbdc0 at 0x60-0x6f on motherboard atkbd0 irq 1 on isa psm0 irq 12 on isa psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16550A lpt0 at 0x278-0x27f irq 5 on isa lpt0: Interrupt-driven port lp0: TCP/IP capable interface tw calibration: delay loop is 21 us. tw0 at 0x3bc-0x3c3 irq 7 on isa fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 flags 0xb0ffb0ff on isa wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): , LBA, DMA, 32-bit, multi-block-16 wd0: 2446MB (5009760 sectors), 621 cyls, 128 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc0: unit 1 (wd1): , LBA, DMA, 32-bit, multi-block-16 wd1: 4892MB (10018890 sectors), 623 cyls, 255 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 flags 0xb0ffb0ff on isa wdc1: unit 0 (atapi): , removable, iordy acd0: drive speed 689KB/sec, 256KB cache acd0: supported read types: CD-DA acd0: Audio: play, 256 volume levels acd0: Mechanism: ejectable tray acd0: Medium: no/blank disc inside, unlocked wdc1: unit 1 (atapi): , removable, dma, iordy acd1: drive speed 344 - 1034KB/sec, 768KB cache acd1: supported read types: CD-R, CD-RW, CD-DA, packet track acd1: supported write types: CD-R, CD-RW, test write acd1: Audio: play, 128 volume levels acd1: Mechanism: ejectable tray acd1: Medium: no/blank disc inside, unlocked, lock protected vga0 at 0x3b0-0x3df maddr 0xa0000 msize 131072 on isa npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface changing root device to wd1s2e ffs_mountfs: superblock updated for soft updates ffs_mountfs: superblock updated for soft updates ffs_mountfs: superblock updated for soft updates VESA: set_mode(): 24(18) -> 204(cc) VESA: set_mode(): 34(22) -> 204(cc) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 14:06:23 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA17700 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 14:06:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA17689 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 14:06:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA50782; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 14:05:13 -0800 (PST) To: Andreas Braukmann cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make release / how to create the bootable installation cd-roms? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 12 Jan 1999 17:18:06 +0100." <19990112171806.A8547@paert.tse-online.de> Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 14:05:10 -0800 Message-ID: <50778.916178710@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Would somebody be so kind to point me to the relevant piece of > (documentation | Makefile | sh-script | ...) on "How to build > the bootable CD-Images"? 1. Build a complete release and look in ${CHROOTDIR}/R/cdrom/disc1 2. Copy the XFree86 and package bits from somewhere into here (as many as will fit). 3. See /usr/share/examples/worm/ for the scripts used to make the mkisofs image and to burn it onto CDR. 4. This is an advanced class task. Don't expect it to be easy. You'll need to read Makefiles. :) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 14:09:54 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA18124 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 14:09:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from callisto.geotec.net (callisto.geotec.net [208.244.246.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA18119 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 14:09:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom@geotec.net) Received: from TOJ.org ([208.244.246.146]) by callisto.geotec.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-58476U5000L500S0V35) with ESMTP id net for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 16:18:26 -0600 Received: (from tom@localhost) by TOJ.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA07320 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 16:00:09 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from tom) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 16:00:07 -0600 From: tom@geotec.net (Tom Jackson) To: FreeBSD Current Subject: New Con Driver Panics using PCVT Message-ID: <19990112160006.A5715@slim.TOJ.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all, Tried the update for the new con driver. On two boxes using the pcvt driver, it fails. On my server if I leave the rc.local from the pcvt directory, it page faults with the display flipping like loss of vertical hold so I can't read anything. If I remove the rc.local, it boots to the login prompt and then the keyboard freezes. On the second box, after getting to the login prompt it page faults with no dump ( keyboard and display freezes at the beginning of dump). Current process shows it running kcon. Trap 12 message can be provided if needed. I did get the server running with sc0, as probably all will run with sc0. I thought it strange no one else has reported this problem. Any ideas? Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 14:12:48 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA18488 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 14:12:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA18483 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 14:12:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA50832; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 14:11:05 -0800 (PST) To: "Louis A. Mamakos" cc: John Birrell , jhay@mikom.csir.co.za (John Hay), bde@zeta.org.au, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: /usr/obj/elf, /usr/obj/aout, /usr/obj - breaks make all vs make buildworld, and other things. Time to make elf the default In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 12 Jan 1999 16:24:58 EST." <199901122124.QAA24281@whizzo.transsys.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 14:11:01 -0800 Message-ID: <50828.916179061@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I think that the desired effect is that after doing a 'make world' or > 'make buildworld' you can easily go to some arbitrary place in the > source tree, type 'make', and have the right thing happen. That is, use > the object that we previously built with 'make [build]world'. Aye. The fact that this feature stopped working has really screwed me up occasionally when wearing my release engineer's hat. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 15:12:02 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA01772 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 15:12:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from arnold.swimsuit.internet.dk (mail.swimsuit.internet.dk [194.255.12.232]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA01726 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 15:11:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from leif@swimsuit.internet.dk) Received: from localhost (leif@localhost) by arnold.swimsuit.internet.dk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA25456 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 00:11:00 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from leif@arnold.swimsuit.internet.dk) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 00:10:56 +0100 (CET) From: Leif Neland To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: new console driver makes my screen yellow Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The new console driver makes my screen yellow, i.e. the blue colour has disappeared. The colour is ok at boot, and when the screensaver starts the first time (I'm using the stars-saver), but after leaving the screensaver the first time, the blue colour is gone. The video card is listed as FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT #79: Tue Jan 12 19:57:24 CET 1999 vga0: rev 0x01 on pci1.0.0 Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 on isa sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> ed0 not found at 0x280 atkbdc0 at 0x60-0x6f on motherboard atkbd0 irq 1 on isa psm0 irq 12 on isa psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 It's an AGP-card. S3-Trio-3D viewtop. if I remember correctly. Leif To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 15:24:49 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA03423 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 15:24:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.26.10.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA03414 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 15:24:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bde@godzilla.zeta.org.au) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA09898; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 10:24:09 +1100 Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 10:24:09 +1100 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199901122324.KAA09898@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: bde@zeta.org.au, jhay@mikom.csir.co.za Subject: Re: /usr/obj/elf, /usr/obj/aout, /usr/obj - breaks make all vs make buildworld, and other things. Time to make elf the default Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >> `make world' under certain conditions creates .depend files that are >> inconsistent with ones created by plain `make'. If you know enough >> about the world building process to avoid problems from this, then you >> should know enough to use the same obj directory tree for `make' as for >> `make world' (`MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=whatever make'). I always build worlds >> in a separate obj tree on purpose. > >Shouldn't we then rather rename it to /usr/obj/world to show what it >is used for? Because if I use the normal make I still get elf objects >and binaries even though they aren't build in the /usr/obj/elf/... >subdirectories. Yes, if we decide to keep the separate tree for worlds after aout goes away. >> `make world' could run `make cleandir' twice to clean up sloppily >> maintained obj trees. The first pass cleans the canonical object tree >> ... >More than that is needed for make release. Some parts like the building >of the floppy images with crunchgen assume that make and make world >still work like it did before elf, no objformat object subdirectory Hmm, I though release builds actually worked :-). >and that both compile in the same directory. While all those things >could be fixed and I can probably put 'setenv MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=whatever' >in my .cshrc file, ... You would then have to unset it for making worlds, since another /elf will be appended. Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 15:24:50 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA03424 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 15:24:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smarter.than.nu (thought.calbbs.com [207.71.213.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA03412 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 15:24:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brian@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smarter.than.nu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA14475 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 15:23:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brian@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 15:23:58 -0800 (PST) From: "Brian W. Buchanan" X-Sender: brian@smarter.than.nu To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: new console driver makes my screen yellow In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 13 Jan 1999, Leif Neland wrote: > The new console driver makes my screen yellow, i.e. the blue colour has > disappeared. > > The colour is ok at boot, and when the screensaver starts the first time > (I'm using the stars-saver), but after leaving the screensaver the first > time, the blue colour is gone. I have this same problem, but it happens to the console upon switching out of XFree86. I experienced this before the console driver change, as well. Switching to VESA_132x60 and back to VGA_80x30 restores console color sanity. I'm not sure whether this is caused by my video card or by XFree86, since I switched to my new card, a Diamond V550, and XFree86 (AccelX has no support for the V550) simultaneously on Saturday, and the problem manifested itself. My previous configuration was a Trident 9750 and AccelX, which worked fine. -- Brian Buchanan brian@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU -------------------------------------------------------------------------- FreeBSD - The Power to Serve! http://www.freebsd.org daemon(n): 1. an attendant power or spirit : GENIUS 2. the cute little mascot of the FreeBSD operating system To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 15:36:59 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA04619 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 15:36:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.26.10.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA04612 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 15:36:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bde@godzilla.zeta.org.au) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA11327; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 10:36:16 +1100 Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 10:36:16 +1100 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199901122336.KAA11327@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: current@FreeBSD.ORG, kjc@csl.sony.co.jp Subject: Re: HZ missing in options? Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >Is there any reason why HZ isn't listed in sys/conf/options? >Or just an oversight? If so, I'll add the following line. Changing it used to break xntpd's kernel PLL. Increasing it used to significantly increase the potential inaccuracy of the clock (from 50 ppm for 100 Hz to 500 ppm for 1000 Hz). Increasing it is still harmful for adjtime(2). This shouldn't be a problem except when xntpd is misconfigured to use adjtime() instead of the kernel PLL. Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 15:47:25 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA06062 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 15:47:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from caladan.tdx.co.uk (caladan.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA06040 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 15:47:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) Received: from tdx.co.uk (lorca-tx.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.242]) by caladan.tdx.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id XAA66959; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 23:46:26 GMT Message-ID: <369BDE9C.9702D918@tdx.co.uk> Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 23:45:32 +0000 From: Karl Pielorz Organization: TDX - The Digital eXchange X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bruce Evans CC: current@FreeBSD.ORG, kjc@csl.sony.co.jp Subject: Re: HZ missing in options? References: <199901122336.KAA11327@godzilla.zeta.org.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Bruce Evans wrote: > > >Is there any reason why HZ isn't listed in sys/conf/options? > >Or just an oversight? If so, I'll add the following line. > > Changing it used to break xntpd's kernel PLL. Increasing it used to > significantly increase the potential inaccuracy of the clock (from > 50 ppm for 100 Hz to 500 ppm for 1000 Hz). Increasing it is still > harmful for adjtime(2). This shouldn't be a problem except when xntpd > is misconfigured to use adjtime() instead of the kernel PLL. Does anyone know if this still does break things? - We have a few machines here running 1000Hz... It helps with things like AltQ / DummyNet etc. The Cyclades serial ports we have also seem to require it for polled mode (I guess understandbly), but we seem to get away without it (probably because they're not loaded much). -Kp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 16:07:05 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA10040 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 16:07:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from arnold.swimsuit.internet.dk (mail.swimsuit.internet.dk [194.255.12.232]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA10034 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 16:07:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from leif@swimsuit.internet.dk) Received: from localhost (leif@localhost) by arnold.swimsuit.internet.dk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA25546 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 00:27:36 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from leif@arnold.swimsuit.internet.dk) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 00:27:33 +0100 (CET) From: Leif Neland To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ppp exiting term also terminates telnet Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Often ppp doesn't work, so I have to reset the modem (ZyXEL Elite). I rlogin as root to the machine where ppp is running. killall ppp ppp term ats38=4swr (zyxel restarts like it has been turned off and on. This is nessecary; atz is not enough) ~. rlogin terminates, I'm back to "my own machine". If I use telnet instead, I doesn't get disconnected from the modemserver. Leif To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 16:07:10 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA10059 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 16:07:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from arnold.swimsuit.internet.dk (mail.swimsuit.internet.dk [194.255.12.232]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA10039 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 16:07:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from leif@swimsuit.internet.dk) Received: from localhost (leif@localhost) by arnold.swimsuit.internet.dk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA25561 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 00:33:43 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from leif@arnold.swimsuit.internet.dk) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 00:33:39 +0100 (CET) From: Leif Neland To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ppp: Do something if connection fails. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is it possible to do something if the connection fails to get established? When ppp fails, but instead just loops, I either turn the modem off and on, or do a software reset. But I don't want to reset the modem every time I want to dial out, as it would take too long time. When the connection loops, I get this in ppp.log Jan 11 18:11:00 arnold ppp[20952]: tun0: Phase: bundle: Establish Jan 11 18:11:00 arnold ppp[20952]: tun0: Phase: deflink: closed -> opening Jan 11 18:11:00 arnold ppp[20952]: tun0: Phase: deflink: Connected! Jan 11 18:11:00 arnold ppp[20952]: tun0: Phase: deflink: opening -> dial Jan 11 18:11:00 arnold ppp[20952]: tun0: Phase: Phone: 12345678 Jan 11 18:11:00 arnold ppp[20952]: tun0: Chat: deflink: Dial attempt 1 of 1 Jan 11 18:11:00 arnold ppp[20952]: tun0: Chat: Send: ATZ^M Jan 11 18:11:00 arnold ppp[20952]: tun0: Chat: Expect(5): OK Jan 11 18:11:01 arnold ppp[20952]: tun0: Chat: Received: ATZ^M^M Jan 11 18:11:01 arnold ppp[20952]: tun0: Chat: Received: OK^M Jan 11 18:11:01 arnold ppp[20952]: tun0: Chat: Send: ATE1^M Jan 11 18:11:01 arnold ppp[20952]: tun0: Chat: Expect(5): OK Jan 11 18:11:01 arnold ppp[20952]: tun0: Chat: Received: ATE1^M^M Jan 11 18:11:01 arnold ppp[20952]: tun0: Chat: Received: OK^M Jan 11 18:11:01 arnold ppp[20952]: tun0: Chat: Send: AT&K00B40DI12345678^M Jan 11 18:11:02 arnold ppp[20952]: tun0: Chat: Expect(15): CONNECT Jan 11 18:11:02 arnold ppp[20952]: tun0: Chat: Received: AT&K00B40DI12345678^M^M Jan 11 18:11:02 arnold ppp[20952]: tun0: Chat: Received: CONNECT 115200/PPP 64000/NONE^M Jan 11 18:11:02 arnold ppp[20952]: tun0: Phase: deflink: dial -> login Jan 11 18:11:02 arnold ppp[20952]: tun0: Phase: deflink: login -> lcp Jan 11 18:11:02 arnold ppp[20952]: tun0: LCP: FSM: Using "deflink" as a transport Jan 11 18:11:02 arnold ppp[20952]: tun0: LCP: deflink: State change Initial --> Closed Jan 11 18:11:02 arnold ppp[20952]: tun0: Phase: deflink: Entering STOPPED state for 2 seconds Jan 11 18:11:02 arnold ppp[20952]: tun0: LCP: deflink: State change Closed --> Stopped Jan 11 18:11:04 arnold ppp[20952]: tun0: LCP: deflink: LayerStart Jan 11 18:11:04 arnold ppp[20952]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(134) state = Stopped Jan 11 18:11:04 arnold ppp[20952]: tun0: LCP: ACFCOMP[2] Jan 11 18:11:04 arnold ppp[20952]: tun0: LCP: PROTOCOMP[2] Jan 11 18:11:04 arnold ppp[20952]: tun0: LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 Jan 11 18:11:04 arnold ppp[20952]: tun0: LCP: MRU[4] 1500 Jan 11 18:11:04 arnold ppp[20952]: tun0: LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x6954f108 Jan 11 18:11:05 arnold ppp[20952]: tun0: LCP: deflink: State change Stopped --> Req-Sent Jan 11 18:11:05 arnold ppp[20952]: tun0: LCP: deflink: RecvConfigRej(134) state = Req-Sent Jan 11 18:11:05 arnold ppp[20952]: tun0: LCP: PROTOCOMP[2] Jan 11 18:11:05 arnold ppp[20952]: tun0: LCP: ACFCOMP[2] Jan 11 18:11:05 arnold ppp[20952]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(135) state = Req-Sent Jan 11 18:11:05 arnold ppp[20952]: tun0: LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 Jan 11 18:11:05 arnold ppp[20952]: tun0: LCP: MRU[4] 1500 Jan 11 18:11:05 arnold ppp[20952]: tun0: LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x6954f108 Jan 11 18:11:08 arnold ppp[20952]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(135) state = Req-Sent Jan 11 18:11:08 arnold ppp[20952]: tun0: LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 Jan 11 18:11:08 arnold ppp[20952]: tun0: LCP: MRU[4] 1500 Jan 11 18:11:08 arnold ppp[20952]: tun0: LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x6954f108 Jan 11 18:11:11 arnold ppp[20952]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(135) state = Req-Sent Jan 11 18:11:11 arnold ppp[20952]: tun0: LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 Jan 11 18:11:11 arnold ppp[20952]: tun0: LCP: MRU[4] 1500 Jan 11 18:11:11 arnold ppp[20952]: tun0: LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x6954f108 Jan 11 18:11:14 arnold ppp[20952]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(135) state = Req-Sent Jan 11 18:11:14 arnold ppp[20952]: tun0: LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 Jan 11 18:11:14 arnold ppp[20952]: tun0: LCP: MRU[4] 1500 Jan 11 18:11:14 arnold ppp[20952]: tun0: LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x6954f108 Jan 11 18:11:17 arnold ppp[20952]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(135) state = Req-Sent Jan 11 18:11:17 arnold ppp[20952]: tun0: LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 Jan 11 18:11:17 arnold ppp[20952]: tun0: LCP: MRU[4] 1500 Jan 11 18:11:17 arnold ppp[20952]: tun0: LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x6954f108 Jan 11 18:11:20 arnold ppp[20952]: tun0: LCP: deflink: LayerFinish Jan 11 18:11:20 arnold ppp[20952]: tun0: LCP: deflink: State change Req-Sent --> Stopped Jan 11 18:11:20 arnold ppp[20952]: tun0: LCP: deflink: State change Stopped --> Closed Jan 11 18:11:20 arnold ppp[20952]: tun0: LCP: deflink: State change Closed --> Initial Jan 11 18:11:20 arnold ppp[20952]: tun0: Phase: deflink: Disconnected! Jan 11 18:11:20 arnold ppp[20952]: tun0: Phase: deflink: lcp -> hangup Jan 11 18:11:20 arnold ppp[20952]: tun0: Phase: deflink: Connect time: 20 secs: 25 octets in, 272 octets out Jan 11 18:11:20 arnold ppp[20952]: tun0: Phase: total 14 bytes/sec, peak 33 bytes/sec on Mon Jan 11 18:11:20 1999 Jan 11 18:11:20 arnold ppp[20952]: tun0: Phase: deflink: hangup -> closed Jan 11 18:11:20 arnold ppp[20952]: tun0: Phase: bundle: Dead What's happening? Leif To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 16:45:19 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA16452 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 16:45:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from assurance.rstcorp.com (assurance.rstcorp.com [206.29.49.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA16440 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 16:45:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vshah@rstcorp.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by assurance.rstcorp.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA14549; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 19:44:41 -0500 Received: from sandbox.rstcorp.com(206.29.49.63) by assurance.rstcorp.com via smap (V2.0) id xma014545; Tue, 12 Jan 99 19:44:31 -0500 Received: from jabberwock.rstcorp.com (jabberwock [206.29.49.98]) by sandbox.rstcorp.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA25410; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 19:44:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from vshah@localhost) by jabberwock.rstcorp.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) id TAA06023; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 19:44:30 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 19:44:30 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199901130044.TAA06023@jabberwock.rstcorp.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Viren R. Shah" To: "Brian W. Buchanan" Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: new console driver makes my screen yellow In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 19.16 "Lille" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: "Viren R. Shah" X-Face: )~y+U*K:yzjz{q<5lzpI_SVef'U.])9g[C9`1N@]u3,MHY7f*l7C)[_NjM4y4K8$uIUh|\u (K&&HS6,M!61&GMTk'mqmB/Qg]]X}"?TzsFl]"2v!bl8']dma.:^IY^a[lbOI>U:b<~FyK3q-p{HmZ mn~g.`~BE!5{2D:}Yi+\_KkWe?XaHj9$ko1k8iKLYv5*_2c8"G=?Up[}hn+7RNM(bzBZ_wWk6!Pf&B ?3Tcm7M7B~W%K/I0aX3]*=jP?aM]H6HBPT`oLk+0n^_;N\2\%|Rhy;p}34Q.jEsM\qtnxcm;ag%Nq Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Brian W. Buchanan writes: > On Wed, 13 Jan 1999, Leif Neland wrote: > > > The new console driver makes my screen yellow, i.e. the blue colour has > > disappeared. > > > > I have this same problem, but it happens to the console upon switching out > of XFree86. I experienced this before the console driver change, as well. Just to add a "me, too". Also, when I use the splash screen, and put up a BMP file, it shows all yellow (like putting a yellow filter on a camera lens). This used to happen before the new console driver, but only when the VESA module was used. VESA: v3.0, 4096k memory, flags:0x1, mode table:0xf026ae9e (1000022) VESA: STB Velocity 128 (RIVA 128) VESA: set_mode(): 24(18) -> 28(1c) Another aspect of the splash screen -- it (i.e. the splash image) dissappears before the boot process is over: [bunch of probes...] npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface VESA: set_mode(): 28(1c) -> 24(18) Waiting 2 seconds for SCSI devices to settle ahc0:A:6: refuses synchronous negotiation. Using asynchronous transfers changing root device to wd0s3a da1 at ahc0 bus 0 target 6 lun 0 [more SCSI probing of drives] The splash image dissappears at the VESA: line, even though there are more boot probes going on. Is this normal? Viren -- Viren R. Shah FreeBSD: The Power to _Serve_ http://www.freebsd.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 16:50:34 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA17855 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 16:50:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bright.fx.genx.net (bright.fx.genx.net [206.64.4.154]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA17843 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 16:50:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bright@hotjobs.com) Received: from localhost (bright@localhost) by bright.fx.genx.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA88365; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 19:54:58 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bright@hotjobs.com) X-Authentication-Warning: bright.fx.genx.net: bright owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 19:54:58 -0500 (EST) From: Alfred Perlstein X-Sender: bright@bright.fx.genx.net To: "Viren R. Shah" cc: "Brian W. Buchanan" , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: new console driver makes my screen yellow In-Reply-To: <199901130044.TAA06023@jabberwock.rstcorp.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Brian W. Buchanan writes: > > On Wed, 13 Jan 1999, Leif Neland wrote: > > > > > The new console driver makes my screen yellow, i.e. the blue colour has > > > disappeared. > > > > > > > I have this same problem, but it happens to the console upon switching out > > of XFree86. I experienced this before the console driver change, as well. > > Just to add a "me, too". Also, when I use the splash screen, and put > up a BMP file, it shows all yellow (like putting a yellow filter on a > camera lens). This used to happen before the new console driver, but > only when the VESA module was used. > > VESA: v3.0, 4096k memory, flags:0x1, mode table:0xf026ae9e (1000022) > VESA: STB Velocity 128 (RIVA 128) > VESA: set_mode(): 24(18) -> 28(1c) > same here, i haven't tried the splash screen, but i get a yellowed screen as well. (i thought it was neat though :) ) VESA: v2.0, 4096k memory, flags:0x1, mode table:0xf0298782 (1000022) VESA: Matrox Graphics Inc. -Alfred To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 17:06:33 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA22199 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 17:06:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from isbalham.ist.co.uk (isbalham.ist.co.uk [192.31.26.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA22167 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 17:06:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rb@gid.co.uk) Received: from gid.co.uk (uucp@localhost) by isbalham.ist.co.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with UUCP id BAA09644; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 01:05:40 GMT (envelope-from rb@gid.co.uk) Received: from [194.32.164.2] by seagoon.gid.co.uk; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 00:55:45 GMT X-Sender: rb@194.32.164.1 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <19990112004945.A68879@tidalwave.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 00:55:43 +0000 To: "Andrew Atrens" From: Bob Bishop Subject: Re: potential ide_pci.c bugster Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, lcremean@tidalwave.net Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, At 5:12 pm -0500 12/1/99, Andrew Atrens wrote: >Hi All, > >I've been experiencing pci-ide timeouts of the showstopper variety. > [...] >wd0: interrupt timeout (status 50 error 0) >wd0: wdtimeout() DMA status 1 > >Interesting thing is this drive, wd0, is about 2 years old and doesn't >support UDMA. While wd1, a new drive, does do UDMA. > [...] >wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): , LBA, DMA, 32-bit, multi-block-16 >wd0: 2446MB (5009760 sectors), 621 cyls, 128 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S >wdc0: unit 1 (wd1): , LBA, DMA, 32-bit, >multi-block-16 >wd1: 4892MB (10018890 sectors), 623 cyls, 255 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S [etc] Hmm. Today I noticed this: wd0: interrupt timeout (status 58 error 0) wd0: wdtimeout() DMA status 4 ...on -current a couple of days old. It didn't stop the system, which is SMP PIIs at 350MHz on 100MHz bus. Not running SOFTUPDATES at the time. wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): wd0: 1222MB (2503872 sectors), 2484 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S -- Bob Bishop (0118) 977 4017 international code +44 118 rb@gid.co.uk fax (0118) 989 4254 between 0800 and 1800 UK To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 17:22:52 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA26345 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 17:22:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mired.eh.local (kstreet.interlog.com [198.53.146.171]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA26316 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 17:22:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from street@iname.com) Received: (from kws@localhost) by mired.eh.local (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA06881; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 20:20:56 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from kws) To: "Brian W. Buchanan" Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: new console driver makes my screen yellow References: From: Kevin Street Date: 12 Jan 1999 20:20:56 -0500 In-Reply-To: "Brian W. Buchanan"'s message of "Tue, 12 Jan 1999 15:23:58 -0800 (PST)" Message-ID: <87ww2sj7d3.fsf@mired.eh.local> Lines: 27 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/XEmacs 20.4 - "Emerald" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Brian W. Buchanan" writes: > On Wed, 13 Jan 1999, Leif Neland wrote: > > > The new console driver makes my screen yellow, i.e. the blue colour has > > disappeared. > I have this same problem, but it happens to the console upon switching out > of XFree86. I experienced this before the console driver change, as well. > Switching to VESA_132x60 and back to VGA_80x30 restores console color > sanity. I'm not sure whether this is caused by my video card or by > XFree86, since I switched to my new card, a Diamond V550, and XFree86 > (AccelX has no support for the V550) simultaneously on Saturday, and > the problem manifested itself. My previous configuration was a Trident > 9750 and AccelX, which worked fine. If you don't load the vesa driver (or take it out of your kernel) then the V550 will work correctly (at least mine does). It's more than blue/yellow that's hosed, by the way. For an entertaining display of colour confusion try: `vidcontrol show'. I mentioned this to Kazu in an earlier exchange of mail and he says he's going to take a look at it. -- Kevin Street street@iName.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 17:24:14 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA26789 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 17:24:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.196.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA26775 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 17:24:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (IDENT:5ab5zoaV8rW6uiOlQN+7Wx+FE8c5h9Te@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA10081; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 10:23:29 +0900 (JST) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.7.6+2.6Wbeta7/3.4W/zodiac-May96) with ESMTP id KAA14199; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 10:25:57 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199901130125.KAA14199@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> To: tom@geotec.net (Tom Jackson) cc: FreeBSD Current , yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp Subject: Re: New Con Driver Panics using PCVT In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 12 Jan 1999 16:00:07 CST." <19990112160006.A5715@slim.TOJ.org> References: <19990112160006.A5715@slim.TOJ.org> Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 10:25:56 +0900 From: Kazutaka YOKOTA Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >Tried the update for the new con driver. On two boxes using the pcvt >driver, it fails. On my server if I leave the rc.local from the pcvt >directory, it page faults with the display flipping like loss of vertical >hold so I can't read anything. If I remove the rc.local, it boots to >the login prompt and then the keyboard freezes. > >On the second box, after getting to the login prompt it page faults >with no dump ( keyboard and display freezes at the beginning of dump). >Current process shows it running kcon. Trap 12 message can be provided >if needed. Ok, this is serious. It may be the last-minute-change (as always :-) after I tested PCVT... I will look into it as soon as possible. Kazu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 17:35:15 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA00580 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 17:35:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail4.aracnet.com (mail4.aracnet.com [205.159.88.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA00563 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 17:35:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ctapang@easystreet.com) Received: from apex (216-99-199-226.cust.aracnet.com [216.99.199.226]) by mail4.aracnet.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id RAA01032 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 17:34:37 -0800 Message-ID: <012401be3e95$0345ae20$0d787880@apex.tapang> From: "Carlos C. Tapang" To: Subject: Fw: Is anyone working on porting Zope to FreeBSD? Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 17:35:33 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG oZZ from Russia responded to me, and I realized just now that he did not copy the list. So here is his message. Carlos C. Tapang http://www.genericwindows.com > >On Fri, 8 Jan 1999, Carlos C. Tapang wrote: > >> I need a more powerful website than what I have now, and I'm considering >> Zope (http://www.zope.org). Zope is basically Principia, a commercial >> product which has just been open-sourced. Is there anybody trying to port >> this app to FreeBSD? If nobody is, I'll think about doing it myself. >> >> Carlos C. Tapang >> http://www.genericwindows.com >> >now i try to port it for FreeBSD... >Rgdz, >Osokin Sergey aka oZZ, >osa@etrust.ru >FreeBSD in Russia >http://www.freebsd.org.ru > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 17:59:35 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA07582 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 17:59:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from janus.syracuse.net (janus.syracuse.net [205.232.47.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA07563 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 17:59:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from green@unixhelp.org) Received: from localhost (green@localhost) by janus.syracuse.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA21060 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 20:59:04 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 20:59:04 -0500 (EST) From: Brian Feldman X-Sender: green@janus.syracuse.net To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Weird file corruption? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This seems to be happening every once in a while :/ It happens in what seems to be random scenarios. For instance today, I extracted a file successfully. Then: {"/home/green"}$ gzip -t xmame-0.35b1.1.tgz gzip: xmame-0.35b1.1.tgz: invalid compressed data--crc error Then I experienced problems compiling i86.c, which should have been (once extracted again, this part of the archive wasn't corrupted) static void i_xchg_axcx(void) /* Opcode 0x91 */ { XchgAXReg(CX); } but was static static voidaxcx(void) /* Opcode 0x91 */ { XchgAXReg(CX); } So far, I really haven't seen this much, but I'm getting worried. Anyone have any idea wha the problem is? Brian Feldman _ __ ___ ___ ___ green@unixhelp.org _ __ ___ | _ ) __| \ http://www.freebsd.org/ _ __ ___ ____ | _ \__ \ |) | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! _ __ ___ ____ _____ |___/___/___/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 18:16:20 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA10081 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 18:16:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA10075 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 18:16:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN) id LAA04161; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 11:15:31 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <369BFC70.F96837FD@newsguy.com> Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 10:52:48 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brian Somers CC: Khaled Daham , Christian Weisgerber , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: State of the union, 1999. References: <199901121810.SAA13855@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Brian Somers wrote: > > > And the fact that it seems impossible to order something from them makes > > the effort of trying to read german not worth it.. Have tried to order > > that damn red-freebsd-plushie for 4 months now .. I guess Ill be better of > > trying to compile one myself :) > > Someone should add it as a port :-) Mmmmm..... /usr/ports/plushies/chuck? :-) -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com If you sell your soul to the Devil and all you get is an MCSE from it, you haven't gotten market rate. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 18:40:30 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA15662 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 18:40:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu [18.24.4.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA15643 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 18:40:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu) Received: (from wollman@localhost) by khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA20325; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 21:39:49 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from wollman) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 21:39:49 -0500 (EST) From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <199901130239.VAA20325@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: An ELF upgrade story Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG First, a bit of disclaimer: DON'T DO THIS. Really. I mean it. At a minimum, don't expect anyone to help you if you try and it doesn't work. I recently upgraded my laptop to a current -current, and at the same time finally converted over to ELF. I had held back on ELF for as long as I could because my disk is very small (1G FreeBSD partition), and I had only 230 MB of space for /usr/obj -- not nearly enough to complete the official upgrade process. However, it turned out that this wasn't actually a problem. Because the actual version skew was fairly minor, at least in terms of kernel capability, it was possible to run statically-linked -current ELF binaries under my old system. Serendipitously, that is precisely what the bootstrapping mechanism underneath `make world' will construct and install in its temporary staging area if you tell it OBJFORMAT=elf. Thankfully, when the transition was made, nobody managed to break the ability to run the internal `make world' subtargets interactively, on a running system. So, I simply read down the actual implementation of `make world''s bootstrap and performed all of those steps manually, against the running system, which gave me -current tools and ELF libraries against which the rest of the world could be built. After stopping a moment to build and install the ELF ld.so (which probably wasn't necessary due to magic ordering of SUBDIR), I was able to build and install a complete -current ELF world without having to keep twice the disk space on hand. It's now running quite nicely, and X even works (for the first time on the NeoMagic-equipped laptop). DON'T ANYONE ELSE TRY THIS. -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | O Siem / We are all family / O Siem / We're all the same wollman@lcs.mit.edu | O Siem / The fires of freedom Opinions not those of| Dance in the burning flame MIT, LCS, CRS, or NSA| - Susan Aglukark and Chad Irschick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 18:45:05 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA16810 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 18:45:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from math.berkeley.edu (math.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.183.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA16760 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 18:44:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dan@math.berkeley.edu) Received: (from dan@localhost) by math.berkeley.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA16073; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 18:44:17 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 18:44:17 -0800 (PST) From: dan@math.berkeley.edu (Dan Strick) Message-Id: <199901130244.SAA16073@math.berkeley.edu> To: axl@iafrica.com Subject: Re: amd: noconn option exists... Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, dan@math.berkeley.edu Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I'm using ELF 3.0-CURRENT as of Friday last week. I've just noticed the > following in /etc/messages: > > amd[11641]: noconn option exists, and was turned OFF! (May cause NFS hangs on some systems...) > > ... > > Are these messages harmless warnings that can be turned off, or does > this indicate that I falsely estimated the success of my transition to > CURRENT? I ran into this problem several months ago and would really like to see it explained by someone who really knows. Since no such person has volunteered to share his wisdom, I share my experience: 1) In the beginning, bsd-nfs mounts required the noconn option to avoid hangs in certain circumstances, such as multi-ported servers that might respond to nfs requests to one IP address through a different IP address. So I made noconn a default mount option in my amd maps. 2) Sometime prior to 3.0, something in the system or in amd changed such that remote mounts began to like the "conn" option. When my old amd maps were used on new 3.0 systems, the amd saw that noconn was turned on, complained about it, and turned it off. (Note: the 3.0 SNAP release notes prior to the 3.0-RELEASE said there was a new version of amd with new configuration options.) 3) The frequent warning messages were ugly, so I tried an experiment. I disabled the amd code that prevented the noconn mounts. Then some of my remote mounts started hanging. Then I changed my default amd mounting option from "noconn" to "conn". That seemed to fix everything. I don't know why "conn" is now the right thing to do while "noconn" used to be the right thing. Dan Strick dan@math.berkeley.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 18:57:57 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA20224 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 18:57:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from emu.sourcee.com (emu.sourcee.com [205.181.251.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA20212 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 18:57:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nrice@emu.sourcee.com) Received: (from nrice@localhost) by emu.sourcee.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA27058; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 21:57:05 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 21:57:05 -0500 From: "Norman C. Rice" To: Eddie Lawhead Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3.0R--> -current. Message-ID: <19990112215705.A25754@emu.sourcee.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: ; from Eddie Lawhead on Mon, Jan 11, 1999 at 07:30:32PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jan 11, 1999 at 07:30:32PM -0800, Eddie Lawhead wrote: > > Hello All! > > I am just about to make the move from 3.0 Release to -Current. What > sort of things can I expect? Does anyone have some good ideas on > preparations I should make? I have read and printed out the "Making the > World" tutorial....I am just looking for -current specific information. In addition to the information contained in /usr/src/UPDATING and the sources that it references, I encountered the following problems during recent updates (1/9/99 and 1/10/99). 1. A ``make -j4 world'' failed with a kzip loader kzip: not found This was remedied by changing ``kzip'' to ``/usr/bin/kzip'' in /usr/src/sys/boot/i386/loader/Makefile. 2. A ``make -j4 world'' failed because some directories did not exist under /usr/share/examples/kld. This was remedied by cd /usr/share/examples/kld mkdir syscall mkdir syscall/module mkdir syscall/test 3. Building a new kernel failed with several ``gensetdefs:'' errors complaining about aout object files. This was remedied by make clean make depend && make && make -DFORCE install 4. One system panic'd when it tried to change the root device to da1s1a. With an aout kernel it used /boot.config to specify 0:da(1,a)kernel and I tried to move this file to /boot/boot.conf without success. This was remedied by booting from a fixit floppy and restoring the /boot.config file. I assume there is a way to do this with the new loader, but I didn't have the time to research it. 5. On a multi-boot system it was necessary to copy the new boot sector after the disklabel -B process required by the new loader. These issues may already be resolved. I highly recommend using mergemaster (referenced in the UPDATING document). -- Regards, Norman C. Rice, Jr. > > Thanks in advance, > > Eddie > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > Eddie H. Lawhead FreeBSD: The Power To Serve > Kelowna, BC, Canada http://www.FreeBSD.org > eddie@silk.net http://www.Silk.net > ---------------------------------------------------- > | Silk Internet: Your Smooth Connection To The Net | > ----------------------------------------------------- > =-=-=-=-=-=-= Enriched, V-Card, HTML Messages > /dev/null =-=-=-=-=-=-= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 19:05:24 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA22386 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 19:05:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA22370 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 19:05:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from lot.gsoft.com.au (doconnor@lot.gsoft.com.au [203.38.152.106]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA09049; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 13:34:22 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199901130239.VAA20325@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 13:34:59 +1030 (CST) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: Garrett Wollman Subject: RE: An ELF upgrade story Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 13-Jan-99 Garrett Wollman wrote: > First, a bit of disclaimer: > > DON'T DO THIS. Really. I mean it. At a minimum, don't expect anyone > to help you if you try and it doesn't work. [ Story full of much potential pain ] > DON'T ANYONE ELSE TRY THIS. Hmm.. looks like you just used up your good luck quota for this year =) --- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 19:10:12 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA24090 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 19:10:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from frolic.no-support.loc (ppp39-83.hrz.uni-bielefeld.de [129.70.39.83]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA24052 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 19:10:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bfischer@Techfak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE) Received: (from bjoern@localhost) by frolic.no-support.loc (8.9.1/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) id DAA04291 for current@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 03:58:50 +0100 (CET) From: Bjoern Fischer Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 03:58:49 +0100 To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: netboot & ELF kernels Message-ID: <19990113035849.A1735@frolic.no-support.loc> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi there, I've recently noticed that ELF is now default on a kernel build. No problems with ELF kernels on a server machine, but netboot fails to load an ELF kernel (lack of support, it seems). Is it on the list to add support for ELF kernels to netboot? Or, is there any alternative way to boot a diskless machine (diskless -- not even a floppy)? Thanks. Bjoern To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 19:12:04 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA24784 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 19:12:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from callisto.geotec.net (callisto.geotec.net [208.244.246.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA24757 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 19:12:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom@geotec.net) Received: from TOJ.org ([208.244.246.215]) by callisto.geotec.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-58476U5000L500S0V35) with ESMTP id net; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 21:20:40 -0600 Received: (from tom@localhost) by TOJ.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA08699; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 20:08:22 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from tom) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 20:07:03 -0600 From: tom@geotec.net (Tom Jackson) To: Kazutaka YOKOTA Cc: FreeBSD Current Subject: Re: New Con Driver Panics using PCVT Message-ID: <19990112200703.A8670@peeper.TOJ.org> References: <19990112160006.A5715@slim.TOJ.org> <199901130125.KAA14199@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: <199901130125.KAA14199@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp>; from Kazutaka YOKOTA on Wed, Jan 13, 1999 at 10:25:56AM +0900 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Fair enough. On another box, a Thinkpad (360Cs) the sc0 driver doesn't appear to work. I changed the flags from 0x10 to 0x04 then back to 0x10 (since LINT still shows 0x10) but can't get proper keyboard function. Wish I could be of more help. On Wed, Jan 13, 1999 at 10:25:56AM +0900, Kazutaka YOKOTA wrote: > >Tried the update for the new con driver. On two boxes using the pcvt > >driver, it fails. On my server if I leave the rc.local from the pcvt > >directory, it page faults with the display flipping like loss of vertical > >hold so I can't read anything. If I remove the rc.local, it boots to > >the login prompt and then the keyboard freezes. > > > >On the second box, after getting to the login prompt it page faults > >with no dump ( keyboard and display freezes at the beginning of dump). > >Current process shows it running kcon. Trap 12 message can be provided > >if needed. > > Ok, this is serious. It may be the last-minute-change (as always :-) > after I tested PCVT... > > I will look into it as soon as possible. > > Kazu > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message -- Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 19:31:09 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA01217 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 19:31:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mailhub.ainet.com (mailhub.ainet.com [204.30.40.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA01202 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 19:31:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jmscott@ainet.com) Received: from shell.ainet.com (jmscott@shell.ainet.com [204.30.40.108]) by mailhub.ainet.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id TAA20327; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 19:30:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost by shell.ainet.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA18416; for current@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 12 Jan 99 19:32:48 PST Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 19:32:47 -0800 (PST) From: "Joseph M. Scott" To: Peter Wemm Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: defaults changed in sendmail.cf In-Reply-To: <199901121353.VAA66059@spinner.netplex.com.au> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Quick comments/questions. On Tue, 12 Jan 1999, Peter Wemm wrote: > 1: I turned on the relay_based_on_MX feature. This is intended to ease the > transition from the "default relay" to "relay denied" in 8.9.x. Note that > this DOES NOT expose anybody to spam risk, although it does mean that > sendmail will automatically perform a fallback relay function without > explicitly being enabled. For example; if "foo.com" lists "xyz.bar.com" in > their fallback MX list, then xyz.bar.com will happily relay mail TO foo.com > (and only TO them, not FROM them). If foo.com did this without bar.com's > permission and xyz.bar.com relayed spam to foo.com, then foo.com is getting > what they deserve and has no right to complain (and they can fix it by > repairing their MX configuration). I'll have to go back and check, but I this type setting can still allow anyone with control of their dns to relay mail through a system. If spam.com adds norelay.com to their mx list then spam.com can relay off of norelay.com. This is just quickly off of what I remember when reading about these options when they first came out. If I'm totally wrong ( which is not totally out of the question by any means :-) please let me know. Also, even if what I just stated is true, I do think, like you said, it is a good transition step. > 2: I turned on the Mime header overflow checking. This is a runtime cost > since sendmail scans the body when it passes through the system. Fair enough. > 3: I turned on a few more (optional) tables. Nothing happens unless the > .db files are created, but the rules are present. This means that the > default sendmail.cf will be a lot more useful without needing rebuilding > in as many cases. I hope this represents a better medium capability > sendmail.cf file. Of course it can still be tuned for specific purposes. Which ones where turned on? > > 4: some default paths are different, in line with Eric's plans to move > everthing to /etc/mail for the next release. I take it that the previous items in /etc/mail have been removed then? ( I thought I'd read something about them at least been renamed or something ) * Joseph M. Scott * jmscott@ainet.com * American InfoMetrics * Modesto, CA To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 19:33:11 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA02013 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 19:33:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.196.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA01958 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 19:33:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (IDENT:kfoZDsfKDPD3VJZ3k3yFl7YSu7aZPwPo@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA10828; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 12:32:20 +0900 (JST) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.7.6+2.6Wbeta7/3.4W/zodiac-May96) with ESMTP id MAA17186; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 12:34:47 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199901130334.MAA17186@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> To: tom@geotec.net (Tom Jackson) cc: FreeBSD Current , yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp Subject: Re: New Con Driver Panics using PCVT In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 12 Jan 1999 20:07:03 CST." <19990112200703.A8670@peeper.TOJ.org> References: <19990112160006.A5715@slim.TOJ.org> <199901130125.KAA14199@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> <19990112200703.A8670@peeper.TOJ.org> Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 12:34:46 +0900 From: Kazutaka YOKOTA Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >Fair enough. On another box, a Thinkpad (360Cs) the sc0 driver doesn't >appear to work. I changed the flags from 0x10 to 0x04 then back to 0x10 >(since LINT still shows 0x10) but can't get proper keyboard function. >Wish I could be of more help. The new flag 0x04 is for atkbd. Not for sc anymore. Make sure the flag is set to atkbd. That much said, there appear to be a bug in the keyboard driver! Please apply the following patch to /sys/dev/kbd/atkbd.c and see if it works. As for LINT still listing obsoleted flags, they will be deleted. Thank you for spotting. Kazu Index: atkbd.c =================================================================== RCS file: /src/CVS/src/sys/dev/kbd/atkbd.c,v retrieving revision 1.1 diff -u -r1.1 atkbd.c --- atkbd.c 1999/01/09 02:44:49 1.1 +++ atkbd.c 1999/01/13 03:31:24 @@ -375,7 +375,7 @@ /* initialize it */ kbdc = ((atkbd_state_t *)kbd->kb_data)->kbdc; - if (!(flags & KB_CONF_PROBE_ONLY) && !KBD_IS_PROBED(kbd)) { + if (!(flags & KB_CONF_PROBE_ONLY) && !KBD_IS_INITIALIZED(kbd)) { if (KBD_HAS_DEVICE(kbd) && init_keyboard(kbdc, &kbd->kb_type, flags) && (flags & KB_CONF_FAIL_IF_NO_KBD)) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 20:42:03 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA22238 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 20:42:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from callisto.geotec.net (callisto.geotec.net [208.244.246.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA22213 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 20:41:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom@geotec.net) Received: from TOJ.org ([208.244.246.143]) by callisto.geotec.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-58476U5000L500S0V35) with ESMTP id net; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 22:50:38 -0600 Received: (from tom@localhost) by TOJ.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA09399; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 22:17:01 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from tom) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 22:16:22 -0600 From: tom@geotec.net (Tom Jackson) To: Kazutaka YOKOTA Cc: FreeBSD Current Subject: Re: New Con Driver Panics using PCVT Message-ID: <19990112221622.A9384@peeper.TOJ.org> References: <19990112160006.A5715@slim.TOJ.org> <199901130125.KAA14199@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> <19990112200703.A8670@peeper.TOJ.org> <199901130334.MAA17186@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: <199901130334.MAA17186@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp>; from Kazutaka YOKOTA on Wed, Jan 13, 1999 at 12:34:46PM +0900 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Jan 13, 1999 at 12:34:46PM +0900, Kazutaka YOKOTA wrote: > > >Fair enough. On another box, a Thinkpad (360Cs) the sc0 driver doesn't > >appear to work. I changed the flags from 0x10 to 0x04 then back to 0x10 > >(since LINT still shows 0x10) but can't get proper keyboard function. > >Wish I could be of more help. > > The new flag 0x04 is for atkbd. Not for sc anymore. Make sure > the flag is set to atkbd. Pilot error! Moving the flags from sc0 to atkbd0 fixed this one. I figure there is no need to try the patch, yes? > > That much said, there appear to be a bug in the keyboard driver! > Please apply the following patch to /sys/dev/kbd/atkbd.c and see > if it works. > > As for LINT still listing obsoleted flags, they will be deleted. > Thank you for spotting. > > Kazu Thanks, -- Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 21:28:48 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA06606 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 21:28:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from whistle.com (s205m131.whistle.com [207.76.205.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA06586 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 21:28:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from archie@whistle.com) Received: (from smap@localhost) by whistle.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id VAA23729; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 21:27:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from bubba.whistle.com( 207.76.205.7) by whistle.com via smap (V2.0) id xma023725; Tue, 12 Jan 99 21:27:12 -0800 Received: (from archie@localhost) by bubba.whistle.com (8.8.7/8.6.12) id VAA10163; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 21:27:12 -0800 (PST) From: Archie Cobbs Message-Id: <199901130527.VAA10163@bubba.whistle.com> Subject: Re: Weird file corruption? In-Reply-To: from Brian Feldman at "Jan 12, 99 08:59:04 pm" To: green@unixhelp.org (Brian Feldman) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 21:27:12 -0800 (PST) Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Brian Feldman writes: > Then I experienced problems compiling i86.c, which should have been (once > extracted again, this part of the archive wasn't corrupted) > static void i_xchg_axcx(void) /* Opcode 0x91 */ > { > XchgAXReg(CX); > } > but was > static > static voidaxcx(void) /* Opcode 0x91 */ > { > XchgAXReg(CX); > } > > So far, I really haven't seen this much, but I'm getting worried. Anyone have > any idea wha the problem is? Bad memory? Overclocking? Wasn't libz recently updated? (Does gzip use it?) -Archie ___________________________________________________________________________ Archie Cobbs * Whistle Communications, Inc. * http://www.whistle.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 21:31:12 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA07253 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 21:31:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ayukawa.aus.org (ayukawa.aus.org [199.166.246.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA07242 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 21:31:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lh@aus.org) Received: from bsd.aus.org (bsd.aus.org [199.166.246.189]) by ayukawa.aus.org (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA24686 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 00:11:31 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199901130511.AAA24686@ayukawa.aus.org> X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3-beta-042198 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 00:30:14 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: lh@aus.org From: Luke To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: bind in a sandbox Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I was just looking at running named in -current [@2 days old] as uid/gid bind. It seems all ok except that the pid file seems to be compiled in , which is /var/run/named.pid. running as bind.bind named can't handle the file , unless the permissions on /var/run are changed , which I assume I shouldn't do. It seems that as root when you rung named -g bind -u bind , the pid file is opened ok , as root , but then /usr/sbin/ndc cannot handle the pid file. --- E-Mail: Luke Sent by XFMail ---------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 21:45:33 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA11538 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 21:45:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from friley-185-114.res.iastate.edu (friley-185-114.res.iastate.edu [129.186.185.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA11530 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 21:45:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ccsanady@friley-185-114.res.iastate.edu) Received: from friley-185-114.res.iastate.edu (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by friley-185-114.res.iastate.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 493D6C1; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 23:44:57 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Leif Neland Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: new console driver makes my screen yellow In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 13 Jan 1999 00:10:56 +0100." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 23:44:57 -0600 From: Chris Csanady Message-Id: <19990113054457.493D6C1@friley-185-114.res.iastate.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Are you using 'options VESA' by chance? I get yellow text when I enable this with my Millenium. Although, after I switch to X and then back to a console (or something..), it turns *really* dark grey.. >The new console driver makes my screen yellow, i.e. the blue colour has >disappeared. > >The colour is ok at boot, and when the screensaver starts the first time >(I'm using the stars-saver), but after leaving the screensaver the first >time, the blue colour is gone. > >The video card is listed as > >FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT #79: Tue Jan 12 19:57:24 CET 1999 >vga0: rev 0x01 on pci1.0.0 >Probing for devices on the ISA bus: >sc0 on isa >sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> >ed0 not found at 0x280 >atkbdc0 at 0x60-0x6f on motherboard >atkbd0 irq 1 on isa >psm0 irq 12 on isa >psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 > >It's an AGP-card. > >S3-Trio-3D viewtop. if I remember correctly. > >Leif > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 21:51:32 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA13472 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 21:51:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from relay9.uu.net (relay9.uu.net [192.48.96.85]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA13449; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 21:51:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from louie@UU.NET) Received: from neserve0.uu.net by relay9.uu.net with ESMTP (peer crosschecked as: neserve0.uu.net [153.39.50.135]) id QQfxyd02014; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 00:50:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from sayshell.corp.us.uu.net by neserve0.uu.net with ESMTP (peer crosschecked as: sayshell.corp.us.uu.net [153.39.251.30]) id QQfxyd24530; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 00:50:43 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 X-Exmh-Isig-CompType: repl X-Exmh-Isig-Folder: inbox To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG cc: Luigi Rizzo , jkh@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Louis A. Mamakos" Subject: Re: "Louis A. Mamakos": kernel networking features contribution.. In-reply-to: <199812101740.SAA22071@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> References: <199812101740.SAA22071@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Comments: In-reply-to Luigi Rizzo message dated "Thu, 10 Dec 1998 18:40:47 +0100." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 00:50:43 -0500 Message-ID: <8498.916206643@sayshell.corp.us.uu.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG First, I'd like to repeat my request for a character major device number for the 'dtfp' device (Datum Time and Frequency Processor). I posted a request to the freebsd-current mailing list earlier, but it got lost in the flood of email over the sysctl business. I've been making some considerable progress here at UUNET on the timestamping application I described in an earlier message. To recap, the goal is to be able to measure unidirection network latency between a set of selected measurement points. Each of these measurement points has a GPS synchronized timebase and dedicated measurement hardware which is/will be a FreeBSD-based CompactPCI system with an IRIG-B timecode processor. The goal is to get end-to-end latency measurement with sub-50 to -100 microsecond accuracy. Then the interesting data reduction begins :-) The good news is that I've got approval from my management at UUNET to contribute this software to the FreeBSD project. There's an early version of the code and changes I've made available for review and comment by interested parties. When going through this to clean up some stuff, I got a idea or two to pursue that might modularize stuff a bit better than it is now. I'll likely make another major pass through the kernel code to expunge some debug code and clean up some uglies here an there and then merge with what will be the then-current FreeBSD-4.0 software. I've also got to cook up a couple of man pages. What you'll find is essentially a number of new capabilities and subsystems: - an abstraction of a 'clock source' for timestamping events. Minimally, you get one which is exactly the system clock. You can, however, have other timestamp sources with timebases that are not necessarily synchronized to the system time. - a driver for a Datum bc635PCI Time and Frequency Processor. Essentially a disciplined oscillator who's frequency is controlled by an external 1-PPS signal, IRIG-B timecode, free run, or by an optional GPS receiver. It's notion of time is enumerated in 100ns units, and can be latched with 1 register access over the PCI bus. You can also mmap() this device into user code and with read-only access get these same timestamps without making system calls. Additional work will follow in this module to allow it to be an alternative system clock (by using the timecounter abstraction I'm trying to make sure I understand), as well as reimplementing a quasi-standard API to this board similar to what the vendor supports on other bus-level products (e.g., SBUS, VME, etc.) This is as time permits. - an if_tstamp module which can be associated with one or more network interfaces. This contains a simple interface that small stubs of code in network interface drivers optionally invoke to capture a timestamp for incoming packets. The timestamp (and other status and control info) is stored in 3 32bit integers in a modified struct pkthdr inside an mbuf. In a related change, the default mbuf size was increased from 128 to 256 bytes to avoid any unfortunate side effects for protocols (e.g., PPP) that assume they have so-much space available in the first mbuf which would have been 12 bytes smaller. This module also contains a simple interface for constructing timestamps to be jammed into specially selected outgoing packets. - changes to if_ether.c in two areas: First, if timestamping has been enabled on an interface (using a modified ifconfig to specify which clock source to be used), and the device driver for the interface hasn't been modified to collect the timestamp, then it's grabbed in if_ether.c. This presumably has somewhat worse accuracy, but is better than nothing. Second, code to selectively drop a timestamp in outgoing packets. In this version of code, there's too much in if_ether.c; most of this will be moved out, back into the if_tstamp module to make it more generic and reduce duplicated code when I get around to supporting other network media. This code is probably the ugliest of all and where I've got some ideas of how to clean it up a bit. - a few modified network interface drivers to collect timestamps. There are diffs available for the kernel code at http://www-ext.eng.uu.net/TrUUeTick/tstamp-kernel-patches.txt (TrUUeTick is the internal project name that's using this stuff.) There are some trivial changes to ifconfig which allow root to enable timestamping on an interface and specify which clock source is to be used. I haven't sucked any of the non-kernel FreeBSD code into my private repository, so the diffs didn't automatically come out. This will be picked up the next time around, once I get the nerve up to try more CVS feats of acrobatics. There is one incompatible change that was made. It has to do with the operation of the SO_TIMESTAMP option. Currently, when SO_TIMESTAMP is enabled on a SOCK_DGRAM socket, you can receive an SCM_TIMESTAMP control message using recvmsg() that contains a struct timeval. The change that was made is to return a datastructure with additional information beyond just the time, and to return the time as a struct timespec. I didn't want to introduce a new socket option as to my knowledge, I'm probably the only person that's every written code that uses this socket option and I'm the original author of the kernel code that actually implements it. If there are strong feeling that this existing API not be disturbed, then it's a simple matter to add another socket option. So: my plan is to submit this work in a few weeks to be intergrated into FreeBSD, probably post-3.1 split. I'll merge in the changes to -current between now and then and push out diffs. They'll hopefully be something in the way of man pages. There will also be some changes to ifconfig, and perhaps a sample program or two. It's unlikely that the applications that I'll develop to use this stuff, or the data reduction stuff will be able to be contributed, but I think there will be some useful capability in here. -- Louis A. Mamakos louie@UU.NET Director, Global Strategic Technology UUNET, an MCI WorldCom Company Voice: +1 703 206 5823 3060 Williams Drive Fax: +1 703 206 5601 Fairfax, VA 22031-4648 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 22:06:09 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA18617 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 22:06:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from apollo.backplane.com (apollo.backplane.com [209.157.86.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA18604 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 22:06:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA07948; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 22:05:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 22:05:23 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <199901130605.WAA07948@apollo.backplane.com> To: Mattias Pantzare Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Enabling Softupdates with symlinks? Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :> No no ... don't hit the reset key. If you make a mistake and hit reset :> just as the HD is writing a sector, you'll loose the sector (or worse). :> HD's do *NOT* have enough capacitance on the power bus to finish the :> write. They really don't ... it's an computer geek's urban myth. : :Realy? Why would the power dissapear from the HD when I press the _reset_ :button? : :Is it not a big propability that the HD is writing on a sector at a power :failure on a loaded server? The disks usualy survive a power failure with no :problems att all. Well, you are right about that. But I'd still not trust a SCSI bus reset from not messing a drive in mid-write up. -Matt Matthew Dillon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 22:10:28 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA20103 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 22:10:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from apollo.backplane.com (apollo.backplane.com [209.157.86.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA20090 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 22:10:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA07980; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 22:09:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 22:09:49 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <199901130609.WAA07980@apollo.backplane.com> To: Mattias Pantzare Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Enabling Softupdates with symlinks? Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG : :Realy? Why would the power dissapear from the HD when I press the _reset_ :button? : :Is it not a big propability that the HD is writing on a sector at a power :failure on a loaded server? The disks usualy survive a power failure with no :problems att all. If the drive happens to be in the middle of a write during a power failure, it is virtually guarenteed to loose at least one sector. Seagates will tend to loose one or two. Quantums will tend to loose hundreds of sectors - we've completely destroyed quantums that way. Occassionally a power failure will destroy the motherboard but not the platter - that has happened to us on two occasions, where the disk's motherboard is dead and we can pop it and replace it with another and bring the drive back to life well enough that we can read the data off it. Typically, a heavily loaded server is weighted towards doing more reads on a drive then writes. A power failure during a read is usually non-destructive. Most of the time power failures do not damage the disks. But since it's happened to us on a number of equations, the chances are obviously not 0. -Matt Matthew Dillon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 23:38:40 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA13904 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 23:38:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from spinner.netplex.com.au (spinner.netplex.com.au [202.12.86.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA13877 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 23:38:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) Received: from spinner.netplex.com.au (peter@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spinner.netplex.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.1/Netplex) with ESMTP id PAA69828; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 15:37:10 +0800 (WST) (envelope-from peter@spinner.netplex.com.au) Message-Id: <199901130737.PAA69828@spinner.netplex.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Joseph M. Scott" cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: defaults changed in sendmail.cf In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 12 Jan 1999 19:32:47 PST." Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 15:37:05 +0800 From: Peter Wemm Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Joseph M. Scott" wrote: > > 1: I turned on the relay_based_on_MX feature. This is intended to ease the > > transition from the "default relay" to "relay denied" in 8.9.x. Note that > > this DOES NOT expose anybody to spam risk, although it does mean that > > sendmail will automatically perform a fallback relay function without > > explicitly being enabled. For example; if "foo.com" lists "xyz.bar.com" in > > their fallback MX list, then xyz.bar.com will happily relay mail TO foo.com > > (and only TO them, not FROM them). If foo.com did this without bar.com's > > permission and xyz.bar.com relayed spam to foo.com, then foo.com is getting > > what they deserve and has no right to complain (and they can fix it by > > repairing their MX configuration). > > I'll have to go back and check, but I this type setting can still > allow anyone with control of their dns to relay mail through a system. If > spam.com adds norelay.com to their mx list then spam.com can relay off of > norelay.com. This is just quickly off of what I remember when reading > about these options when they first came out. If I'm totally wrong ( > which is not totally out of the question by any means :-) please let me > know. Also, even if what I just stated is true, I do think, like you > said, it is a good transition step. If spam.com adds norelay.com to their MX list, then *everybody else* can relay *to* spam.com via norelay.com. spam.com cannot *send* via norelay.com! > > 3: I turned on a few more (optional) tables. Nothing happens unless the > > .db files are created, but the rules are present. This means that the > > default sendmail.cf will be a lot more useful without needing rebuilding > > in as many cases. I hope this represents a better medium capability > > sendmail.cf file. Of course it can still be tuned for specific purposes. > > Which ones where turned on? You could look at the source.. :-) http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/etc/sendmail/freebsd.mc > > 4: some default paths are different, in line with Eric's plans to move > > everthing to /etc/mail for the next release. > > I take it that the previous items in /etc/mail have been removed > then? ( I thought I'd read something about them at least been renamed or > something ) No, "move *to* /etc/mail" was what I wrote. Most stuff that used to default to cluttering /etc is moving to /etc/mail. Cheers, -Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 23:44:43 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA16111 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 23:44:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from beast.freibergnet.de (beast.freibergnet.de [194.123.255.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA16085 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 23:44:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mw@freibergnet.de) Received: from io.freibergnet.de (io.freibergnet.de [194.123.255.11]) by beast.freibergnet.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA27366; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 08:43:54 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mw@freibergnet.de) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_=XFMail.1.3.p0.FreeBSD:990113084346:453=_" In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 08:43:46 +0100 (CET) Reply-To: mw@freibergnet.de Organization: FreibergNet Liebscher & Partner Werbeagentur und XLink-PoP Freiberg From: Martin Welk To: Khaled Daham Subject: Re: State of the union, 1999. Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This message is in MIME format --_=XFMail.1.3.p0.FreeBSD:990113084346:453=_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 On 12-Jan-99 Khaled Daham wrote: () And the fact that it seems impossible to order something from them () makes () the effort of trying to read german not worth it.. Have tried to order () that damn red-freebsd-plushie for 4 months now .. I guess Ill be () better of () trying to compile one myself :) Unfortunately, the last year brought us a lot of work with plueshies and those things we earn our money with. Khaled, IŽve checked your order and it looks like you order with the option "payment-on-delivery" (Nachnahme in german language). We simply cannot ship with that option to Sweden, and my mail folder says thereŽs a note about that fact that I sent to you. Unfortunately the maillog is no longer available. We have founded a new company starting with the beginning of the year, and Ingo Liebscher is still working on our new pages - because of the other work we have, we decided not to translate the old pages because they completely change. They should have been on the server in December. We are definitely going to translate the pages, but as the only one yet here speaking and writing english somewhat fluently, itŽs still some kind of time problem yet. As I stated on a german freebsd mailing list (de-freebsd-chat, I think), we sell those daemons on a non-profit business. In digits, this makes about 15 DEM for us, not including shipping & handling. Shipping costs are about 5,80 DEM _in Germany_, the parcel costs about 1,50 DEM, and we have to pay 16 % VAT. For international orders, we give them away for 45 DEM + shipping (and only shipping). We sell those BSD daemons because they give us some publicity (in this case, unfortunately more negative) and because of the fact that FreeBSD gives us as a company working in the ISP business a really solid and stable server (and workstation) operating system. We simply like both, the daemon and FreeBSD. For all people interested in a daemon: look for others, who want one. Shipping costs depend on the destination country and the weight. For example, a parcel to the U. S. costs 40 DEM per parcel and about 4 or 5 DEM per kilogram (I have to look it up). Ask via e-mail to info@freibergnet.de, how much your parcel will cost. Order by e-mail to the same address, if you canŽt use the shop because of the lack of english language. Our new employee is working on a new machine running Apache with SSL, so we will definitely offer secure web orders in the next weeks. We have an evaluation server running on another (less fast) machine without a certified key. ItŽs address is shop.freibergnet.de, and you can use it, but donŽt blame us if something doesnŽt work right. How I said, itŽs currently just a test for us. It works fine, we have tried it with a bunch of people ordering from Germany. Be warned: your Netscape will tell you endless stories about our uncertified key. Khaled, could you be so kind to give us your credit card data? My PGP public key should be available on the PGP key servers net, IŽll add it below. You can also use our fax no. given in the signature. (This is of course also valid for anybody else who wants to order: give us your address, a shipping address (if different), credit card data, what you want, an e-mail address.) The daemon is also available in a smaller version, 15 cm high. ItŽs almost as expensive as the 30 cm version, as production costs are almost as high. We decided to only accept credit cards for international orders as everything else is more expensive for us. Cheques cost us about 20 DEM, international money transfers about 10 DEM. If customers are ready to pay that additionally, okay, no problem. But we canŽt pay it. I was away between Christmas and January, 1st. And there are still about 200 e-mails that went directly to me that I have to answer. 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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 15:48:24 +0800 From: Peter Wemm Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Daniel O'Connor" wrote: > > On 13-Jan-99 Garrett Wollman wrote: > > First, a bit of disclaimer: > > > > DON'T DO THIS. Really. I mean it. At a minimum, don't expect anyone > > to help you if you try and it doesn't work. > [ Story full of much potential pain ] > > > DON'T ANYONE ELSE TRY THIS. > > Hmm.. looks like you just used up your good luck quota for this year =) :-) Actually, a lot of people can probably get away with doing this, but they need to have enough clue to restart things when/if it blows up. I built a 3.0-elf machine in december by: - install 3.0-snap from earlier this year - moving elf libs to aout subdir and rerunning ldconfig - copying the ELF system binaries from another system (/bin, /usr/lib etc) - cursing and swearing at truncating /usr/lib/aout/libc.so.3.x which tar was using at the time. - moving libs elsewhere to a temporary path and using ldconfig on that. - recopied everything across. Some files failed due to text file busy. - then doing a 'make world' It actually worked. The reason I persivered was that it was a slow machine (486) with a small amount of ram (16MB) compared to what I was used to, and because I needed it in a hurry. The machine has since sat there quite happily for a couple of months and has never been rebooted since. There.. this is the other thing that YOU SHOULD NOT DO! :-) Cheers, -Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 23:50:36 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA17621 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 23:50:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pooh.elsevier.nl (pooh.elsevier.nl [145.36.9.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA17599 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 23:50:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from steveo@iol.ie) Received: from pooh.elsevier.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pooh.elsevier.nl (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA01073; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 07:49:36 GMT (envelope-from steveo@iol.ie) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199901112238.HAA25244@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 07:49:33 -0000 (GMT) From: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" To: Kazutaka YOKOTA Subject: Re: Sudden mouse death? Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, Christopher Masto Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 11-Jan-99 Kazutaka YOKOTA wrote: > >>This is the second time I've had this happen, so maybe it's not a >>complete fluke. I walked away from my computer for a while, and when >>I came back, my mouse didn't work. I'm running X using sysmouse and a >> .. snip .. I get very similar events quite often on my laptop which has a PS/2 touchpad. The symptoms are essentially identical and moused is not involved, I've had the same kind of mouse lockup with and without moused, the system is more robust with moused and sometimes I can get the mouse back by restarting moused, more often it claims not to be installed. > I rarely hear this type of errors. > > It sounds like hardware failure. Power to the mouse may not be > supplied reliably. I have been assuming it was an apm related problem without much justification, presumably power management could produce similar effects to a dodgy power connection. > Any possibility that the connector or lead to the mouse may be faulty? Not in my case (I hope) it is built in to my laptop (although apm may be producing similar effects to power problems). Is there anything I can usefully instrument (I am running 3.0-RELEASE) and report on, I can expect several lockups a day. ---------------------------------- E-Mail: Steve O'Hara-Smith Date: 12-Jan-99 Time: 19:14:45 This message was sent by XFMail ---------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 12 23:53:00 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA18205 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 23:53:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from widefw.csl.sony.co.jp (widefw.csl.sony.co.jp [133.138.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA18151 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 23:52:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kjc@csl.sony.co.jp) Received: from hotaka.csl.sony.co.jp (root@hotaka.csl.sony.co.jp [43.27.98.57]) by widefw.csl.sony.co.jp (8.8.8/3.6W) with ESMTP id QAA08053; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 16:52:04 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (kjc@[127.0.0.1]) by hotaka.csl.sony.co.jp (8.8.8/3.6W/hotaka/98122515) with ESMTP id QAA22585; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 16:52:03 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199901130752.QAA22585@hotaka.csl.sony.co.jp> To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav , Bruce Evans cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HZ missing in options? In-reply-to: Your message of "12 Jan 1999 22:31:56 +0100." Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 16:52:03 +0900 From: Kenjiro Cho Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dag-Erling Smorgrav said: > Kenjiro Cho writes: > Is there any reason why HZ isn't listed in sys/conf/options? > Or just an oversight? If so, I'll add the following line. >> Perhaps because it's not a user-tunable option? or is it? The 4.4BSD has the following lines in conf/param.c and HZ has been a config option. /* * System parameter formulae. * * This file is copied into each directory where we compile * the kernel; it should be modified there to suit local taste * if necessary. * * Compiled with -DHZ=xx -DTIMEZONE=x -DDST=x -DMAXUSERS=xx */ In FreeBSD-2.1, -DHZ=xx was removed when TIMEZONE and DST were eliminated. Bruce Evans said: >> Changing it used to break xntpd's kernel PLL. Increasing it used to >> significantly increase the potential inaccuracy of the clock (from >> 50 ppm for 100 Hz to 500 ppm for 1000 Hz). Increasing it is still >> harmful for adjtime(2). This shouldn't be a problem except when xntpd >> is misconfigured to use adjtime() instead of the kernel PLL. As I understand it, - the impact to adjtime(2) is that, when HZ > 500, the clock can be adjusted more than 30ms in 60sec (1usec adjust/tick). - xnpd (when properly configured) uses ntp_adjtime(2) instead of adjtime(2) and it has no problem with a higher resolution. Am I missing any other issues? --Kenjiro To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 13 00:07:35 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA21438 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 00:07:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles341.castles.com [208.214.167.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA21407; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 00:07:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA02751; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 00:03:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199901130803.AAA02751@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Louis A. Mamakos" cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, Luigi Rizzo , jkh@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: "Louis A. Mamakos": kernel networking features contribution.. In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 13 Jan 1999 00:50:43 EST." <8498.916206643@sayshell.corp.us.uu.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 00:03:49 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > First, I'd like to repeat my request for a character major device > number for the 'dtfp' device (Datum Time and Frequency Processor). I > posted a request to the freebsd-current mailing list earlier, but it > got lost in the flood of email over the sysctl business. You have number 84. I displaced the previous holder, as they haven't shown up with any code in a long time (19971110 to be precise). Thanks for re-asking, you're too close to the bottom of my pile with your previous request. 8( -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 13 00:10:03 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA21988 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 00:10:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles341.castles.com [208.214.167.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA21933 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 00:09:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA02789; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 00:06:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199901130806.AAA02789@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" cc: "FreeBSD-Current" Subject: Re: Boot of secondary IDE master by 3.0.1 branch In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 12 Jan 1999 11:05:31 CST." <001301be3e4d$c35d2d20$236319ac@w142844.carlson.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 00:06:19 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I know that this subject has been beaten to death, but I have to ask a very > general question. > > Will /boot/loader be able to boot an elf kernel off of the secondary IDE > master (wd2s1a) by the time the source code branches of on the 15th (date > ?)? Yes, presuming that someone is willing to look at the code and work out why it's currently failing. This situation may require user input; I don't recall you responding to my suggestion to set num_ide_disks to -1 (a very counter-intuitive technique, I agree). -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 13 00:12:06 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA22417 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 00:12:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.196.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA22381 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 00:11:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (IDENT:DV4p5VTVcYAOJGzVaqR+CCeOWVEFM+Aq@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA12279; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 17:11:15 +0900 (JST) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.7.6+2.6Wbeta7/3.4W/zodiac-May96) with ESMTP id RAA28346; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 17:13:42 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199901130813.RAA28346@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> To: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, Christopher Masto , yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp Subject: Re: Sudden mouse death? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 13 Jan 1999 07:49:33 GMT." References: Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 17:13:41 +0900 From: Kazutaka YOKOTA Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>This is the second time I've had this happen, so maybe it's not a >>>complete fluke. I walked away from my computer for a while, and when >>>I came back, my mouse didn't work. I'm running X using sysmouse and a >>> .. snip .. > > I get very similar events quite often on my laptop which has a PS/2 >touchpad. The symptoms are essentially identical and moused is not involved, >I've had the same kind of mouse lockup with and without moused, the system is >more robust with moused and sometimes I can get the mouse back by restarting >moused, more often it claims not to be installed. [...] > I have been assuming it was an apm related problem without much >justification, presumably power management could produce similar effects to a >dodgy power connection. > >> Any possibility that the connector or lead to the mouse may be faulty? > > Not in my case (I hope) it is built in to my laptop (although apm may >be producing similar effects to power problems). Is there anything I can >usefully instrument (I am running 3.0-RELEASE) and report on, I can expect >several lockups a day. Do you have the apm driver enabled? If so please try the following options in your kernel config file. options PSM_HOOKAPM You may also try the following option together with the above. options PSM_RESETAFTERSUSPEND See the man page for psm(4) for details. Kazu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 13 00:12:48 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA22574 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 00:12:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.oeno.com (ns.oeno.com [194.100.99.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA22562 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 00:12:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from will@ns.oeno.com) Received: (qmail 5106 invoked by uid 1001); 13 Jan 1999 08:12:10 -0000 To: "Matthew D. Fuller" Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Boot.flp doesn't References: <199901111058.MAA00994@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za.newsgate.clinet.fi> <867lusga6v.fsf@not.oeno.com> <19990112031009.K22809@futuresouth.com.newsgate.clinet.fi> From: Ville-Pertti Keinonen Date: 13 Jan 1999 10:11:19 +0200 In-Reply-To: "Matthew D. Fuller"'s message of "12 Jan 1999 11:30:48 +0200" Message-ID: <86k8yrbniw.fsf@not.oeno.com> Lines: 15 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/XEmacs 20.4 - "Emerald" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Matthew D. Fuller" writes: > > Really? NFS is so much simpler (if it isn't an installation from > > a public server) that I would expect it to be common. > Actually, I've always found the FTP to be simpler... > Stick files on computer (or mount CD). Done. I admit, if you're willing to let your password be communicated unencrypted, then ftp is easy. Setting up an account without write privileges requires more work, even more if you don't want to give read access to just about everything on that machine. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 13 00:20:23 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA24284 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 00:20:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from shell.futuresouth.com (shell.futuresouth.com [198.78.58.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA24276 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 00:20:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fullermd@futuresouth.com) Received: (from fullermd@localhost) by shell.futuresouth.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id CAA09860; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 02:19:42 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <19990113021942.H12236@futuresouth.com> Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 02:19:42 -0600 From: "Matthew D. Fuller" To: Ville-Pertti Keinonen Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Boot.flp doesn't References: <199901111058.MAA00994@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za.newsgate.clinet.fi> <867lusga6v.fsf@not.oeno.com> <19990112031009.K22809@futuresouth.com.newsgate.clinet.fi> <86k8yrbniw.fsf@not.oeno.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <86k8yrbniw.fsf@not.oeno.com>; from Ville-Pertti Keinonen on Wed, Jan 13, 1999 at 10:11:19AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Jan 13, 1999 at 10:11:19AM +0200, a little birdie told me that Ville-Pertti Keinonen remarked > > "Matthew D. Fuller" writes: > > > > Really? NFS is so much simpler (if it isn't an installation from > > > a public server) that I would expect it to be common. > > > Actually, I've always found the FTP to be simpler... > > Stick files on computer (or mount CD). Done. > > I admit, if you're willing to let your password be communicated > unencrypted, then ftp is easy. Actually, anonymous works just fine for me. I NEVER pass my passwords unencrypted. When my 'net bandwidth starts being eaten by people outside using me, I'll find another solution (move it to a firewalled host, maybe), but until then it Just Works (tm). --- *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* | Matthew Fuller http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd | * fullermd@futuresouth.com fullermd@over-yonder.net * | UNIX Systems Administrator Specializing in FreeBSD | * FutureSouth Communications ISPHelp ISP Consulting * | "The only reason I'm burning my candle at both ends, | * because I haven't figured out how to light the * | middle yet" | *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 13 01:07:41 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA09666 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 01:07:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from caladan.tdx.co.uk (caladan.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA09645 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 01:07:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) Received: from tdx.co.uk (lorca-tx.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.242]) by caladan.tdx.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA01956; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 09:05:33 GMT Message-ID: <369C61A7.C8C38FAE@tdx.co.uk> Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 09:04:39 +0000 From: Karl Pielorz Organization: TDX - The Digital eXchange X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Daniel C. Sobral" CC: Brian Somers , Khaled Daham , Christian Weisgerber , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: State of the union, 1999. References: <199901121810.SAA13855@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org> <369BFC70.F96837FD@newsguy.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Daniel C. Sobral" wrote: > > Brian Somers wrote: > > > > > And the fact that it seems impossible to order something from them makes > > > the effort of trying to read german not worth it.. Have tried to order > > > that damn red-freebsd-plushie for 4 months now .. I guess Ill be better of > > > trying to compile one myself :) > > > > Someone should add it as a port :-) > > Mmmmm..... /usr/ports/plushies/chuck? :-) I have had success with ordering some in the past, I ordered 4 in total (for myself + unsuspecting friends)... I speak a little German, which may have given me an inside advantage - but the guy dealing with the order spoke good English... They did take ages to arrive, but the company selling them is small, and has bad problems with trying to keep enough of them in stock... They are pretty cool when they arrived though! -Kp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 13 02:01:51 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA26847 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 02:01:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from axl.noc.iafrica.com (axl.noc.iafrica.com [196.31.1.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA26829 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 02:01:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sheldonh@axl.noc.iafrica.com) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.noc.iafrica.com) by axl.noc.iafrica.com with local-esmtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 100N6N-000CqR-00; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 12:00:39 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: dan@math.berkeley.edu (Dan Strick) cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: amd: noconn option exists... In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 12 Jan 1999 18:44:17 PST." <199901130244.SAA16073@math.berkeley.edu> Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 12:00:39 +0200 Message-ID: <49378.916221639@axl.noc.iafrica.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 12 Jan 1999 18:44:17 PST, Dan Strick wrote: > Then some of my remote mounts started hanging. Then I changed > my default amd mounting option from "noconn" to "conn". > That seemed to fix everything. Hi Dan, Thanks for taking a crack at explaining this. I found the noconn option mentioned in the AMD Reference Manual (/usr/share/info/amdref.info.gz), which led me to expect the option to appear in /etc/amd.map. I can't find "noconn" _anywhere_ in my /etc/tree, so I'm a little confused as to where amd is picking this up. Clues? Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 13 02:21:16 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA02390 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 02:21:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from shell2.la.best.com (shell2.la.best.com [209.24.216.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA02360 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 02:21:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nugundam@shell2.la.best.com) Received: (from nugundam@localhost) by shell2.la.best.com (8.9.1/8.9.0/best.sh) id CAA12005; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 02:19:08 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <19990113021908.A11598@la.best.com> Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 02:19:08 -0800 From: "Joseph T. Lee" To: Andrew Atrens , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: lcremean@tidalwave.net Subject: Re: potential ide_pci.c bugster References: <19990112004945.A68879@tidalwave.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: ; from Andrew Atrens on Tue, Jan 12, 1999 at 05:12:13PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Jan 12, 1999 at 05:12:13PM -0500, Andrew Atrens wrote: > wd0: interrupt timeout (status 50 error 0) > wd0: wdtimeout() DMA status 1 > > Interesting thing is this drive, wd0, is about 2 years old and doesn't > support UDMA. While wd1, a new drive, does do UDMA. I get this a lot on the quantum lps prodrive I pulled from a Mac Performa. wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 flags 0xa0ffa0ff on isa wdc1: unit 0 (wd2): , LBA, 32-bit, multi-block-8, sleep-hack wd2: 258MB (528640 sectors), 524 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wd2: interrupt timeout (status 58 error 1) wd2: wdtimeout() DMA status 4 -current as of 10th. Error pops up once in a while with or without softupdates. I use it for /usr/src so nothing vital on it..yet. However, this has been happening for about 1 month or 2, so I'm suspecting more that the drive can't support any UDMA requests that it receives (which it shouldn't), and etc etc.. -- Joseph nugundam =best=com==/==\=IIGS=/==\=Playstation=/==\=Civic HX CVT=/==\ # Anime Expo 1998 >> www.anime-expo.org/ > # Redline Games >> www.redlinegames.com/ > # Cal-Animage Epsilon >> www.best.com/~nugundam/epsilon/ > # EX: The Online World of Anime & Manga >> www.ex.org/ / To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 13 02:40:20 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA08104 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 02:40:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from boltzmann.physics.uoi.gr (boltzmann.physics.uoi.gr [195.130.115.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA07637 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 02:39:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hlias@boltzmann.physics.uoi.gr) Received: from localhost (hlias@localhost) by boltzmann.physics.uoi.gr (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA05577 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 12:39:02 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from hlias@boltzmann.physics.uoi.gr) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 12:39:02 +0200 (EET) From: Ilias Sachpazidis To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19990113021908.A11598@la.best.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG unsubscribe freebsd-current To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 13 03:43:18 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA01489 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 03:43:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from roma.coe.ufrj.br (roma.coe.ufrj.br [146.164.53.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA01461 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 03:43:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jonny@jonny.eng.br) Received: (from jonny@localhost) by roma.coe.ufrj.br (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA10764 for current@freebsd.org; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 09:42:25 -0200 (EDT) (envelope-from jonny) From: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis Message-Id: <199901131142.JAA10764@roma.coe.ufrj.br> Subject: Re: 3.0.0-19990105-SNAP install problems. In-Reply-To: <199901121737.PAA15031@roma.coe.ufrj.br> from Joao Carlos Mendes Luis at "Jan 12, 1999 3:37: 3 pm" To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 09:42:25 -0200 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG #define quoting(Joao Carlos Mendes Luis) // Yesterday I tried to install 3.0.0-19990105-SNAP at home, and had // some problems. // // 1) It could not recognize my distributions files at the DOS // partition. I've done this lots of times, so the probability of human // error is small (although possible). Is there any name convention // change in the directory structure (not reflected in the install docs)? // Or maybe a problem with VFAT and mixed case names ? This part has been already solved. It is the problem described in the ERRATA.TXT file. Maybe this snap was not "current" enough to have the problem fixed already. :) Jonny -- Joao Carlos Mendes Luis M.Sc. Student jonny@jonny.eng.br Universidade Federal do Rio de Janeiro "This .sig is not meant to be politically correct." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 13 03:57:18 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA05455 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 03:57:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Wit401305.student.utwente.nl (wit401305.student.utwente.nl [130.89.236.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA05436 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 03:57:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from daeron@Wit401305.student.utwente.nl) Received: from localhost (daeron@localhost) by Wit401305.student.utwente.nl (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA15679 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 12:56:31 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from daeron@Wit401305.student.utwente.nl) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 12:56:31 +0100 (CET) From: Pascal Hofstee To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Chuck Badges for computer cases ? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG A friend of mine just pointed me towards the following URL ... http://www.scotgold.com/Linux.htm I think I would Rock to also have those badges with Chuck on them ;-)) I would definately Love to have one of those (with Chuck then of course) on my computer case .... Let's generate another /. effect on it ;-)) -------------------- Pascal Hofstee - daeron@shadowmere.student.utwente.nl -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GCS d- s+: a-- C++ UB++++ P+ L- E--- W- N+ o? K- w--- O? M V? PS+ PE Y-- PGP-- t+ 5 X-- R tv+ b+ DI D- G e* h+ r- y+ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 13 04:02:57 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA07717 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 04:02:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ocean.campus.luth.se (ocean.campus.luth.se [130.240.194.116]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA07695 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 04:02:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from karpen@ocean.campus.luth.se) Received: (from karpen@localhost) by ocean.campus.luth.se (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA12664; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 12:54:12 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from karpen) From: Mikael Karpberg Message-Id: <199901131154.MAA12664@ocean.campus.luth.se> Subject: Re: Chuck Badges for computer cases ? In-Reply-To: from Pascal Hofstee at "Jan 13, 99 12:56:31 pm" To: daeron@Wit401305.student.utwente.nl (Pascal Hofstee) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 12:54:12 +0100 (CET) Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG According to Pascal Hofstee: > A friend of mine just pointed me towards the following URL ... > > http://www.scotgold.com/Linux.htm > > I think I would Rock to also have those badges with Chuck on them ;-)) Well, why don't you go to this URL, and buy them? :-) http://www.freebsdmall.com/promotional/ > I would definately Love to have one of those (with Chuck then of course) > on my computer case .... I already have that. :-) On both my computers, actually. /Mikael To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 13 04:14:04 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA11797 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 04:14:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ceia.nordier.com (m1-39-dbn.dial-up.net [196.34.155.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA11747 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 04:13:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rnordier@nordier.com) Received: (from rnordier@localhost) by ceia.nordier.com (8.8.7/8.6.12) id OAA10481; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 14:12:04 +0200 (SAT) From: Robert Nordier Message-Id: <199901131212.OAA10481@ceia.nordier.com> Subject: Re: netboot & ELF kernels In-Reply-To: <19990113035849.A1735@frolic.no-support.loc> from Bjoern Fischer at "Jan 13, 99 03:58:49 am" To: bfischer@Techfak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE (Bjoern Fischer) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 14:12:01 +0200 (SAT) Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Bjoern Fischer wrote: > I've recently noticed that ELF is now default on a > kernel build. No problems with ELF kernels on a server > machine, but netboot fails to load an ELF kernel (lack > of support, it seems). > > Is it on the list to add support for ELF kernels to > netboot? Or, is there any alternative way to boot > a diskless machine (diskless -- not even a floppy)? One alternative is Etherboot (http://www.slug.org.au) which Doug Ambrisko has patched for FreeBSD and which will most likely be added to the ports collection. I've been sitting on this for some time (sorry, Doug), but will try to finish looking at it in the next few days. -- Robert Nordier To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 13 04:21:48 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA13610 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 04:21:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from netcom1.netcom.com (lax-ca66-41.ix.netcom.com [207.223.161.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA13605 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 04:21:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mvh@ix.netcom.com) Received: (from mvh@localhost) by netcom1.netcom.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id EAA02986; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 04:21:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mvh) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 04:21:08 -0800 (PST) From: "Michael V. Harding" Message-Id: <199901131221.EAA02986@netcom1.netcom.com> To: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu CC: current@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <199901130239.VAA20325@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> (message from Garrett Wollman on Tue, 12 Jan 1999 21:39:49 -0500 (EST)) Subject: Re: An ELF upgrade story References: <199901130239.VAA20325@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I tried the 'official' aout-to-elf procedure on a from 2.2.8-stable -> -current with 500 meg disk space free and ran out of disk space! Any way to de-bloat this procedure? -- Mike Harding Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 21:39:49 -0500 (EST) From: Garrett Wollman Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG X-RULES: lists First, a bit of disclaimer: DON'T DO THIS. Really. I mean it. At a minimum, don't expect anyone to help you if you try and it doesn't work. I recently upgraded my laptop to a current -current, and at the same time finally converted over to ELF. I had held back on ELF for as long as I could because my disk is very small (1G FreeBSD partition), and I had only 230 MB of space for /usr/obj -- not nearly enough to complete the official upgrade process. ... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 13 04:41:12 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA22886 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 04:41:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from caladan.tdx.co.uk (caladan.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA22602 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 04:40:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) Received: from tdx.co.uk (lorca-tx.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.242]) by caladan.tdx.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA03116; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 12:39:44 GMT Message-ID: <369C93DA.94A06B6@tdx.co.uk> Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 12:38:50 +0000 From: Karl Pielorz Organization: TDX - The Digital eXchange X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pascal Hofstee CC: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Chuck Badges for computer cases ? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Pascal Hofstee wrote: > > A friend of mine just pointed me towards the following URL ... > > http://www.scotgold.com/Linux.htm > > I think I would Rock to also have those badges with Chuck on them ;-)) > > I would definately Love to have one of those (with Chuck then of course) > on my computer case .... > > Let's generate another /. effect on it ;-)) Ha! - Small world... I know the guy who does these! ;-) - I'll see if I can talk him into 'Chuck'dom... ;-) -Kp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 13 05:19:46 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA29987 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 05:19:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from janus.syracuse.net (janus.syracuse.net [205.232.47.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA29807 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 05:18:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from green@unixhelp.org) Received: from localhost (green@localhost) by janus.syracuse.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA18782; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 07:49:26 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 07:49:26 -0500 (EST) From: Brian Feldman X-Sender: green@janus.syracuse.net To: Archie Cobbs cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Weird file corruption? In-Reply-To: <199901130527.VAA10163@bubba.whistle.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 12 Jan 1999, Archie Cobbs wrote: > Brian Feldman writes: > > Then I experienced problems compiling i86.c, which should have been (once > > extracted again, this part of the archive wasn't corrupted) > > static void i_xchg_axcx(void) /* Opcode 0x91 */ > > { > > XchgAXReg(CX); > > } > > but was > > static > > static voidaxcx(void) /* Opcode 0x91 */ > > { > > XchgAXReg(CX); > > } > > > > So far, I really haven't seen this much, but I'm getting worried. Anyone have > > any idea wha the problem is? > > Bad memory? > Overclocking? > Wasn't libz recently updated? (Does gzip use it?) If it was libz, it would have to be doing some sort of actual modification of the stream during a gzread :( It's not overclocking, because I set my CPU at its standard 300 MHz. Maybe it is bad memory... should I go into the BIOS and try setting the memory's speed lower? I just really want to find the underlying cause, because this corruption is a very bad thing, and it happened to my cvsup records file a little while back... I wonder if it could be anything else. > > -Archie > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > Archie Cobbs * Whistle Communications, Inc. * http://www.whistle.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > Brian Feldman _ __ ___ ___ ___ green@unixhelp.org _ __ ___ | _ ) __| \ http://www.freebsd.org/ _ __ ___ ____ | _ \__ \ |) | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! _ __ ___ ____ _____ |___/___/___/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 13 10:59:20 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA00565 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 10:59:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail1.WorldMediaCo.com ([207.252.121.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA00495 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 10:59:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from opsys@open-systems.net) Received: from freebsd.omaha.com ([207.252.122.237]) by mail1.WorldMediaCo.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-55573U2500L250S0V35) with SMTP id com for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 10:13:44 -0600 Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 10:18:39 -0600 (CST) From: "Open Systems Inc." X-Sender: opsys@freebsd.omaha.com To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: syscons.o kernel compile problem... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Coming back from a LONG christmas vacation I CVSup -current as usual and go to build a kernel and get this : -I../../../include -DKERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf vers.c loading kernel syscons.o: In function `scvidprobe': syscons.o(.text+0x231): undefined reference to `vid_configure' syscons.o(.text+0x24e): undefined reference to `vid_allocate' syscons.o(.text+0x26b): undefined reference to `vid_get_adapter' ... psm.o: In function `enable_aux_dev': psm.o(.text+0xd): undefined reference to `send_aux_command' psm.o: In function `disable_aux_dev': psm.o(.text+0x4d): undefined reference to `send_aux_command' I have a ton of mail to read since dec 24th. And im SURE I missed the hoopla about the syscons stuff, AND the 100's of 'syscons.o is broke' mail. Has current branched yet? Is a make world in order? Chris -- "Join Team-FreeBSD on cracking RC5-64! grab you client now and HELP OUT! http://www.distributed.net/cgi/select.cgi" ===================================| Open Systems FreeBSD Consulting. FreeBSD 2.2.8 is available now! | Phone: 402-573-9124 -----------------------------------| 3335 N. 103 Plaza #14, Omaha, NE 68134 FreeBSD: The power to serve! | E-Mail: opsys@open-systems.net http://www.freebsd.org | Consulting, Network Engineering, Security ===================================| http://open-systems.net -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQENAzPemUsAAAEH/06iF0BU8pMtdLJrxp/lLk3vg9QJCHajsd25gYtR8X1Px1Te gWU0C4EwMh4seDIgK9bzFmjjlZOEgS9zEgia28xDgeluQjuuMyUFJ58MzRlC2ONC foYIZsFyIqdjEOCBdfhH5bmgB5/+L5bjDK6lNdqD8OAhtC4Xnc1UxAKq3oUgVD/Z d5UJXU2xm+f08WwGZIUcbGcaonRC/6Z/5o8YpLVBpcFeLtKW5WwGhEMxl9WDZ3Kb NZH6bx15WiB2Q/gZQib3ZXhe1xEgRP+p6BnvF364I/To9kMduHpJKU97PH3dU7Mv CXk2NG3rtOgLTEwLyvtBPqLnbx35E0JnZc0k5YkABRO0JU9wZW4gU3lzdGVtcyA8 b3BzeXNAb3Blbi1zeXN0ZW1zLm5ldD4= =BBjp -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 13 11:00:26 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA00880 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 11:00:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gatekeeper.whistle.com (gatekeeper.whistle.com [207.76.204.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA00866 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 11:00:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ambrisko@whistle.com) Received: (from smap@localhost) by gatekeeper.whistle.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id JAA04255 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 09:27:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ambrisko@whistle.com) Received: from alpo.whistle.com(unknown 207.76.204.38) by gatekeeper.whistle.com via smap (V2.0) id xma004252; Wed, 13 Jan 99 09:27:21 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by alpo.whistle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA12134 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 09:09:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from crab.whistle.com(207.76.205.112), claiming to be "whistle.com" via SMTP by alpo.whistle.com, id smtpdd12131; Wed Jan 13 17:08:57 1999 Received: (from ambrisko@localhost) by whistle.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA29927 for current@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 09:08:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ambrisko) From: Doug Ambrisko Message-Id: <199901131708.JAA29927@whistle.com> Subject: Re: netboot & ELF kernels In-Reply-To: <199901131212.OAA10481@ceia.nordier.com> from Robert Nordier at "Jan 13, 99 02:12:01 pm" To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 09:08:43 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL29 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Robert Nordier writes: | Bjoern Fischer wrote: | | > I've recently noticed that ELF is now default on a | > kernel build. No problems with ELF kernels on a server | > machine, but netboot fails to load an ELF kernel (lack | > of support, it seems). | > | > Is it on the list to add support for ELF kernels to | > netboot? Or, is there any alternative way to boot | > a diskless machine (diskless -- not even a floppy)? | | One alternative is Etherboot (http://www.slug.org.au) which Doug | Ambrisko has patched for FreeBSD and which | will most likely be added to the ports collection. | | I've been sitting on this for some time (sorry, Doug), but will | try to finish looking at it in the next few days. I've been meaning to ask you about them. I know they are not perfect but something is better then nothing! Hopefully some other people can work on making it better once the port is made. The complicated part is that it depends on the linux-devel package and a slight change. What I did was replace the linux ld with a perl script to run brandelf linux after the ld was done. This was due to the Etherboot package creating static bins that are required during the build process. This package has a lot of nice features: - Select different kernels to boot (including Dos images) - Pass in FreeBSD boot flags via bootp request - uses tftp for loading kernel (some may argue this is not a nice feature but I like it for a bunch of reasons ... no need for nfs if kernel has a mfs file system) - Supports more ethernet cards then FreeBSD netboot - This package seems to be actively supported - Supports both FreeBSD ELF & a.out formats I use this package all the time every day ... well my regression system here does. I like being able to control it via dhcpd. If I should send it to someone else to look at I can or maybe I can get Julian or Archie to add it. Doug A. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 13 11:00:29 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA00892 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 11:00:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (osmium.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA00796 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 11:00:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wilko@yedi.iaf.nl) Received: by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl with UUCP id AA27516 (5.67b/IDA-1.5); Wed, 13 Jan 1999 19:13:30 +0100 Received: (from wilko@localhost) by yedi.iaf.nl (8.8.8/8.6.12) id TAA00363; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 19:04:27 +0100 (CET) From: Wilko Bulte Message-Id: <199901131804.TAA00363@yedi.iaf.nl> Subject: Re: State of the union, 1999. In-Reply-To: <369BFC70.F96837FD@newsguy.com> from "Daniel C. Sobral" at "Jan 13, 99 10:52:48 am" To: dcs@newsguy.com (Daniel C. Sobral) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 19:04:27 +0100 (CET) Cc: brian@awfulhak.org, khaled@mailbox.telia.net, naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Organisation: Private FreeBSD site - Arnhem, The Netherlands X-Pgp-Info: PGP public key at 'finger wilko@freefall.freebsd.org' X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As Daniel C. Sobral wrote... > Brian Somers wrote: > > > > > And the fact that it seems impossible to order something from them makes > > > the effort of trying to read german not worth it.. Have tried to order > > > that damn red-freebsd-plushie for 4 months now .. I guess Ill be better of > > > trying to compile one myself :) > > > > Someone should add it as a port :-) > > Mmmmm..... /usr/ports/plushies/chuck? :-) Hm. I got one from them alright. Maybe Joerg can help you to figure it out? Wilko _ ______________________________________________________________________ | / o / / _ Bulte email: wilko@yedi.iaf.nl |/|/ / / /( (_) Arnhem, The Netherlands WWW : http://www.tcja.nl ______________________________________________ Powered by FreeBSD __________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 13 11:00:33 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA00910 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 11:00:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from musin.de (c3po.musin.de [194.113.40.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA00881 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 11:00:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sec@42.org) Received: from matrix.42.org (sec@matrix.42.org [194.246.250.200]) by musin.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA11227 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 16:21:03 +0100 (CET) Received: (from sec@localhost) by matrix.42.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id QAA10236 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org (sender ); Wed, 13 Jan 1999 16:19:43 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 16:19:42 +0100 From: Stefan `Sec` Zehl To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: /boot/loader problem with unusual setup. Message-ID: <19990113161942.A9800@matrix.42.org> X-Current-Backlog: 266 messages Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i I-love-doing-this: really Accept-Languages: de, en X-URL: http://sec.42.org/ Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I have a problem with the new /boot/loader. My Disk-setup may be a bit unusual, though. I have 2 scsi-disks and one ide disk. Setup as follows: Bios Drive no.| Type | Content 0 | SCSI | Windows 1 | SCSI | (mixed) 2 | IDE | FreeBSD When I currently boot, i get BootEasy from Drive 0, where i press F3 for disk 2. There i get the old FreeBSD-loader on which i boot with: 2:wd(0,a)/kernel which works like a charm so far. Now, if I boot 2:wd(0,a)/boot/loader I get to the new loder. Here i do: set currdev=disk3s1a: load /kernel boot which boots the kernel, and panics with 'cannot mount root'. What else do I have to change ? CU, Sec -- I don't have anything against penguins, as long as they stay in the Antarctica, swim around, catch fishes and do the usual penguin stuff. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 13 11:01:00 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA00961 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 11:01:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from st-lcremean.tidalwave.net (host-e186.tidalwave.net [208.213.203.186] (may be forged)) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA00931 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 11:00:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lee@st-lcremean.tidalwave.net) Received: (from lee@localhost) by st-lcremean.tidalwave.net (8.9.1/8.8.8) id KAA05132; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 10:51:52 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from lee) Message-ID: <19990113105152.A5109@tidalwave.net> Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 10:51:52 -0500 From: Lee Cremeans To: "Joseph T. Lee" , Andrew Atrens , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: potential ide_pci.c bugster Reply-To: lcremean@tidalwave.net References: <19990112004945.A68879@tidalwave.net> <19990113021908.A11598@la.best.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <19990113021908.A11598@la.best.com>; from Joseph T. Lee on Wed, Jan 13, 1999 at 02:19:08AM -0800 X-OS: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT X-Evil: microsoft.com Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 flags 0xa0ffa0ff on isa > wdc1: unit 0 (wd2): , LBA, 32-bit, multi-block-8, sleep-hack > wd2: 258MB (528640 sectors), 524 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S > > wd2: interrupt timeout (status 58 error 1) > wd2: wdtimeout() DMA status 4 > > -current as of 10th. Error pops up once in a while with or without > softupdates. I use it for /usr/src so nothing vital on it..yet. This drive is too old to support even multiword 2 DMA. If you're getting timeouts, and they seem to only happen when accessing certain files or areas, then your drive has some bad-but-not-totally-dead sectors on it, and the drive electronics are being slow about correcting the error. This is becoming a FAQ, I think... -- +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Lee Cremeans -- Manassas, VA, USA (WakkyMouse on DALnet and WTnet)| | lcremean@tidalwave.net| http://st-lcremean.tidalwave.net/~lee | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 13 11:01:30 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA01069 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 11:01:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from lab321.ru (anonymous1.omsk.net.ru [62.76.128.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA00955 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 11:00:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kev@lab321.ru) Received: from www.lab321.ru (kev@www.lab321.ru [62.76.129.65]) by lab321.ru (8.8.8/8.9.1a) with SMTP id UAA02632 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 20:03:59 +0600 (OS) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 20:03:59 +0600 (OS) From: Eugeny Kuzakov To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: g++ bug ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 6 Jan 1999, Eugeny Kuzakov wrote: hi! Today I am just downloaded and installed 3.0.0-19990105-SNAP.. g++ from snap works Ok. also I have compiled from ports gcc 2.8.1. After install snap ( just run install.sh from all subdirs) g++ 2.8.1 now also work correctly. Very strange..I can not understand it... > I tryed to compile this code ( it uses in groff configure): > #include "confdefs.h" > #ifdef __cplusplus > extern "C" void exit(int); > #endif > > extern "C" { > void _exit(int); > } > int i; > struct A { > char dummy; > A() { i = 1; } > ~A() { if (i == 1) _exit(0); } > }; > A a; > int main() { return 1; } > > Under 2.2.8-stable gcc 2.7.2.1 and 2.8.1(from ports) this code compilde > Ok. And when I run it, It should return 0. Tested - Ok. > > Under -current - not to be Ok. gcc 2.7.2.1, gcc 2.8.1 and egcs 1.1.1 > compiled Ok, but when I run it code, it return 1. > > -- > Best wishes, Eugeny Kuzakov > Laboratory 321 ( Omsk, Russia ) > kev@lab321.ru > ICQ#: 5885106 > > > -- Best wishes, Eugeny Kuzakov Laboratory 321 ( Omsk, Russia ) kev@lab321.ru ICQ#: 5885106 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 13 11:01:38 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA01106 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 11:01:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.196.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA01084 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 11:01:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (IDENT:BVmze4WHlTia9LkeaQEZtpZ/c97wWGG1@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA13775 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 23:19:21 +0900 (JST) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.7.6+2.6Wbeta7/3.4W/zodiac-May96) with ESMTP id XAA09805; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 23:21:48 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199901131421.XAA09805@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> To: FreeBSD Current cc: yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp Subject: Re: New Con Driver Panics using PCVT In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 12 Jan 1999 16:00:07 CST." <19990112160006.A5715@slim.TOJ.org> References: <19990112160006.A5715@slim.TOJ.org> Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 23:21:43 +0900 From: Kazutaka YOKOTA Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Does anybody else has this problem? If you have, please try the attached patch. Apply it in /sys/i386/isa/pcvt and rebuild the kernel. >Tried the update for the new con driver. On two boxes using the pcvt >driver, it fails. On my server if I leave the rc.local from the pcvt >directory, it page faults with the display flipping like loss of vertical >hold so I can't read anything. If I remove the rc.local, it boots to >the login prompt and then the keyboard freezes. > >On the second box, after getting to the login prompt it page faults >with no dump ( keyboard and display freezes at the beginning of dump). >Current process shows it running kcon. Trap 12 message can be provided >if needed. Kazu Index: pcvt_drv.c =================================================================== RCS file: /src/CVS/src/sys/i386/isa/pcvt/pcvt_drv.c,v retrieving revision 1.47 diff -u -r1.47 pcvt_drv.c --- pcvt_drv.c 1999/01/11 03:18:38 1.47 +++ pcvt_drv.c 1999/01/13 06:12:20 @@ -169,13 +169,12 @@ #ifdef _DEV_KBD_KBDREG_H_ int i; - kbd = NULL; - kbd_configure(KB_CONF_PROBE_ONLY); - i = kbd_allocate("*", -1, (void *)&kbd, pcevent, (void *)dev->id_unit); - if ((i < 0) || ((kbd = kbd_get_keyboard(i)) == NULL)) - { + if (kbd == NULL) { reset_keyboard = 0; - return (-1); + kbd_configure(KB_CONF_PROBE_ONLY); + i = kbd_allocate("*", -1, (void *)&kbd, pcevent, (void *)dev->id_unit); + if ((i < 0) || ((kbd = kbd_get_keyboard(i)) == NULL)) + return (-1); } reset_keyboard = 1; /* it's now safe to do kbd reset */ #endif /* _DEV_KBD_KBDREG_H_ */ @@ -898,6 +897,7 @@ pcrint(unit); return 0; case KBDIO_UNLOADING: + reset_keyboard = 0; kbd = NULL; kbd_release(thiskbd, (void *)&kbd); timeout(detect_kbd, (void *)unit, hz*4); @@ -1182,17 +1182,17 @@ } #ifdef _DEV_KBD_KBDREG_H_ - kbd = NULL; - kbd_configure(KB_CONF_PROBE_ONLY); - i = kbd_allocate("*", -1, (void *)&kbd, pcevent, (void *)dvp->id_unit); - if (i >= 0) - kbd = kbd_get_keyboard(i); - /* * Don't reset the keyboard via `kbdio' just yet. * The system clock has not been calibrated... */ reset_keyboard = 0; + if (kbd == NULL) { + kbd_configure(KB_CONF_PROBE_ONLY); + i = kbd_allocate("*", -1, (void *)&kbd, pcevent, (void *)dvp->id_unit); + if (i >= 0) + kbd = kbd_get_keyboard(i); + } #if PCVT_SCANSET == 2 /* Index: pcvt_kbd.c =================================================================== RCS file: /src/CVS/src/sys/i386/isa/pcvt/pcvt_kbd.c,v retrieving revision 1.26 diff -u -r1.26 pcvt_kbd.c --- pcvt_kbd.c 1999/01/11 03:18:39 1.26 +++ pcvt_kbd.c 1999/01/13 06:23:38 @@ -346,9 +346,10 @@ else if(kbd_cmd(tpmrate) != 0) printf("Keyboard TYPEMATIC data timeout\n"); #else + if (kbd == NULL) + return; tpmrate = rate & 0x7f; - if ((*kbdsw[kbd->kb_index]->ioctl)(kbd, KDSETRAD, - (caddr_t)&tpmrate) == 0) + if ((*kbdsw[kbd->kb_index]->ioctl)(kbd, KDSETRAD, (caddr_t)&tpmrate)) printf("pcvt: failed to set keyboard TYPEMATIC.\n"); #endif /* !_DEV_KBD_KBDREG_H_ */ } To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 13 11:03:27 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA01598 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 11:03:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from doriath.saers.com ([194.248.7.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA01565 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 11:03:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from berenmls@saers.com) Received: from niklas (karon.elanders.no [194.143.3.10]) by doriath.saers.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA27776 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 15:45:59 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from berenmls@saers.com) Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19990113155144.01c71db0@pop.saers.com> X-Sender: berenmls@pop.saers.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.2 (32) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 15:51:44 +0100 To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG From: Niklas Saers Subject: kernel Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG After having cvsuped today (3.0-current), I tried recopiling my kernel which had compiled just fine earlier today with the 3.0-release sources. However, upon doing a "make depend" I got loads of unrefferenced pointers at the aic7xxx-files. Even GENERIC fails to do a proper 'make depend'. Any ideas why? -Niklas To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 13 11:10:55 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA03623 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 11:10:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.intercom.com (mail.intercom.com [206.98.165.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA03495; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 11:10:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jason@intercom.com) Received: from mail.intercom.com (mail.intercom.com [206.98.165.10]) by mail.intercom.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id LAA26083; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 11:18:58 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 11:18:58 -0500 (EST) From: "Jason J. Horton" To: Pascal Hofstee cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Chuck Badges for computer cases ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG http://www.freebsdmall.com/promotional/ sold here for US$1.00, not bad Promotional doesn't seem like that noticable a section. Any ideas on how to bring more attention to it? -J On Wed, 13 Jan 1999, Pascal Hofstee wrote: > A friend of mine just pointed me towards the following URL ... > > http://www.scotgold.com/Linux.htm > > I think I would Rock to also have those badges with Chuck on them ;-)) > > I would definately Love to have one of those (with Chuck then of course) > on my computer case .... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 13 11:11:27 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA03780 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 11:11:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from haldjas.folklore.ee (Haldjas.folklore.ee [193.40.6.121]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA03665 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 11:10:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from narvi@haldjas.folklore.ee) Received: from haldjas.folklore.ee (haldjas.folklore.ee [172.17.2.1] (may be forged)) by haldjas.folklore.ee (8.8.8/8.8.4) with SMTP id UAA21513; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 20:04:26 +0200 (EET) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 20:04:26 +0200 (EET) From: Narvi To: Alfred Perlstein cc: Tugrul , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Booting FreeBSD beyond the 1024th cylinder In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 11 Jan 1999, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > > On Mon, 11 Jan 1999, Tugrul wrote: > > > > > > > On Mon, 11 Jan 1999, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > > > > > have you tried OS-BSbeta? > > > > > > > "No Operating System" for either FreeBSD or Linux beyond the > > 1024th cylinder. > > > > > have you tried the newer boot blocks? i think you can do what you were > > > able to do in linux with the freebsd newer blocks. > > > > > > > None of the boot blocks understand what a elf kernel is afaik. Any > > tips on loading /boot/loader from a floppy, which then loads the kernel > > off wd0s2a? Or is /boot/loader still limited? I don't think both will fit > > on a floppy... lately my kernels have gotten smaller but they might grow > > in size again. > > The booting tools in general need a major update for elf, I wish I > > knew how to help :/ > > You need to do a search on the lists, i've seen the solution to your > problem discussed before. > > Btw, why are you still using other systems besides FreeBSD? I can't > think of a good reason... :) > > -Alfred Because he wants to develop apps that will run on the other system on the desktops of the unelightened? Sander There is no love, no good, no happiness and no future - all these are just illusions. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 13 11:11:32 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA03798 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 11:11:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bright.fx.genx.net (bright.fx.genx.net [206.64.4.154]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA03657 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 11:10:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bright@hotjobs.com) Received: from localhost (bright@localhost) by bright.fx.genx.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA89425; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 12:28:27 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bright@hotjobs.com) X-Authentication-Warning: bright.fx.genx.net: bright owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 12:28:27 -0500 (EST) From: Alfred Perlstein X-Sender: bright@bright.fx.genx.net To: "Daniel O'Connor" cc: Garrett Wollman , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: An ELF upgrade story In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 13 Jan 1999, Daniel O'Connor wrote: > > On 13-Jan-99 Garrett Wollman wrote: > > First, a bit of disclaimer: > > > > DON'T DO THIS. Really. I mean it. At a minimum, don't expect anyone > > to help you if you try and it doesn't work. > [ Story full of much potential pain ] > > > DON'T ANYONE ELSE TRY THIS. > > Hmm.. looks like you just used up your good luck quota for this year =) actually i've done the same thing to piecemeal together a system on a 386/40+8ram with a 600 meg disk. It's not _that_ bad, it just dumps a lotta garbage in the source tree if you don't define OBJDIR. this was 2.2.6->2.2-stable a year ago. -Alfred > > --- > Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer > for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au > "The nice thing about standards is that there > are so many of them to choose from." > -- Andrew Tanenbaum > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 13 11:16:00 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA05125 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 11:16:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from emu.sourcee.com (emu.sourcee.com [205.181.251.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA05054 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 11:15:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nrice@emu.sourcee.com) Received: (from nrice@localhost) by emu.sourcee.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA28317; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 10:59:18 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 10:59:18 -0500 From: "Norman C. Rice" To: Robert Nordier Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3.0R--> -current. Message-ID: <19990113105917.A28250@emu.sourcee.com> References: <19990112215705.A25754@emu.sourcee.com> <199901131337.PAA11258@ceia.nordier.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: <199901131337.PAA11258@ceia.nordier.com>; from Robert Nordier on Wed, Jan 13, 1999 at 03:37:34PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Jan 13, 1999 at 03:37:34PM +0200, Robert Nordier wrote: > Norman C. Rice wrote: > > > In addition to the information contained in /usr/src/UPDATING and the > > sources that it references, I encountered the following problems > > during recent updates (1/9/99 and 1/10/99). > > > 5. On a multi-boot system it was necessary to copy the new boot > > sector after the disklabel -B process required by the new > > loader. > > Could you clarify this a little? I'm assuming you're referring to > using a boot manager which functions differently to boot0/booteasy. I have two systems which do not use booteasy as you assume -- one uses System Commander and the other uses NT's native loader. In each case, a boot sector image file (512 bytes) is used to launch FreeBSD. During the installation of the new loader, the boot sector (bootstrap code) is overwritten by mbr example (SCSI disk): disklabel -B da0 disklabel -B -b /boot/boot1 -s /boot/boot2 da0 slice 2 example (SCSI disk): disklabel -B da0s2 disklabel -B -b /boot/boot1 -s /boot/boot2 da0s2 Specifically, /boot/boot1 is written to the disk's MBR (da0) or the slice specified (da0s2). After backing up the old boot sector image file, bootsect.bsd, I installed the new bootstrap image by mbr: dd if=/dev/rda0 of=bootsect.bsd bs=512 count=1 slice 2: dd if=/dev/rda0s2 of=bootsect.bsd bs=512 count=1 There is no need to reinstall System Commander (SCIN.EXE) or modify NT's BOOT.INI file assuming that the boot sector file (bootsect.bsd in this example) is installed in the same location and that its name is not changed. > A paragraph which can just be added to the existing documentation > would probably be a help to anyone with the same setup. Please feel free to add this to the existing documentation. -- Regards, Norman C. Rice, Jr. > > Thanks. > -- > Robert Nordier To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 13 11:16:19 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA05220 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 11:16:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from exchange1.autotote.com (exchange1.autotote.com [209.118.1.225]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA05129 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 11:16:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom@wact.net) Received: from wact.net (192.168.10.251 [192.168.10.251]) by exchange1.autotote.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2232.9) id CFJAV63S; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 12:22:24 -0500 Message-ID: <369CD734.39C1BA5A@wact.net> Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 12:26:12 -0500 From: Tom Uffner Organization: POEE X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386) X-Accept-Language: en, es, de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Christopher Masto , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sudden mouse death? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I walked away from my computer for a while, and when > I came back, my mouse didn't work. I'm running X using sysmouse and a > Mouse Systems PS/2 optical mouse, and it was just dead.. no movement, > no buttons. Last time this happened (about two weeks ago), I killed > moused and restarted it and it worked again - sort of.. about half of > the button presses were being dropped, and movement was very sluggish, > so I rebooted. I've had the same problem with this mouse several times since I started running 3.0 a few months ago. i haven't seen it since my latest make world (FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT #2: Tue Dec 29 10:18:43 EST 1998), but that doesn't mean it went away. i am not running moused or using /dev/sysmouse on this system, since i only use the mouse from X. when it died, switching to a virtual console then back to X brought it back, but as you said it seemed to have lost sync (sluggish movement, button events mostly missed). i never encountered this problem with an older version of the mouse systems ps2 optical mouse on another machine running the same kernels. btw, not that it really matters, but when booting, the system incorrectly identifies it as a 2 button NetScroll mouse. -- Tom Uffner tom@wact.net Themes were useless! Destiny was here and the foot pedals were bleeding! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 13 11:23:30 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA07467 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 11:23:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from awfulhak.org (awfulhak.force9.co.uk [195.166.136.63]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA07288 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 11:22:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (brian@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org [172.16.0.8]) by awfulhak.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA09725; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 19:21:38 GMT (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (brian@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA74697; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 09:02:19 GMT (envelope-from brian@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <199901130902.JAA74697@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Leif Neland cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ppp exiting term also terminates telnet In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 13 Jan 1999 00:27:33 +0100." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 09:02:18 +0000 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Rlogin uses ``~.'' to drop the connection :-) If you want to use ppp over an rlogin session, you'll need to double up on the ``~''s that you want to send to ppp. So here, you ``~~.'' to back out of a `term' session. > Often ppp doesn't work, so I have to reset the modem (ZyXEL Elite). > > I rlogin as root to the machine where ppp is running. > > killall ppp > ppp > term > ats38=4swr > (zyxel restarts like it has been turned off and on. This is nessecary; > atz is not enough) > ~. > rlogin terminates, I'm back to "my own machine". > > If I use telnet instead, I doesn't get disconnected from the modemserver. > > Leif -- Brian Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 13 11:25:11 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA08026 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 11:25:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pau-amma.whistle.com (s205m64.whistle.com [207.76.205.64]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA07965 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 11:24:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dhw@whistle.com) Received: (from dhw@localhost) by pau-amma.whistle.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA20440 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 10:36:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dhw) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 10:36:50 -0800 (PST) From: David Wolfskill Message-Id: <199901131836.KAA20440@pau-amma.whistle.com> To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: 3.0.0-19990112-SNAP: boot.flp Of Unusual Size Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > ls -l 3.0.0-19990112-SNAP/floppies/ total 14472 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 256 Jan 13 14:30 CHECKSUM.MD5 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 2392 Jan 13 14:30 README.TXT -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 2949120 Jan 13 14:29 boot.flp -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 1474560 Jan 13 14:30 fixit.flp -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 1474560 Jan 13 14:27 kern.flp -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 1474560 Jan 13 14:15 mfsroot.flp I'm having slightly more trouble than usual making boot.flp fit on a 1.44 MB floppy. For reference: > ls -l 3.0.0-19990106-SNAP/floppies/ total 11592 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 256 Jan 7 15:53 CHECKSUM.MD5 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 2392 Jan 7 15:53 README.TXT -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 1474560 Jan 7 15:52 boot.flp -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 1474560 Jan 7 15:53 fixit.flp -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 1474560 Jan 7 15:50 kern.flp -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 1474560 Jan 7 15:38 mfsroot.flp which is rather more in accord with my (possibly naive) expectations. (Yeah, I confess that floppies are a rather unnatural medium for me anyhow....) (One of the reasons I'm messing with the SNAP is to find out if the a.out compatability libraries are in /usr/lib/compat/aout or not; in previous SNAPs, they seem to have been in places such as /usr/lib/compat, which seemed a tad awkward.) Clues, hints, and pointers cheerfully received. (And I'm on-current, so there's no special need to send to both addresses.) Thanks, david -- David Wolfskill UNIX System Administrator dhw@whistle.com voice: (650) 577-7158 pager: (650) 371-4621 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 13 11:46:14 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA13215 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 11:46:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fep1-orange.clear.net.nz (fep1-orange.clear.net.nz [203.97.32.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA13203 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 11:46:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jabley@buddha.clear.net.nz) Received: from buddha.clear.net.nz (buddha.clear.net.nz [192.168.24.106]) by fep1-orange.clear.net.nz (1.5/1.11) with ESMTP id IAA06032; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 08:44:53 +1300 (NZDT) Received: (from jabley@localhost) by buddha.clear.net.nz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA02759; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 08:44:47 +1300 (NZDT) (envelope-from jabley) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 08:44:47 +1300 From: Joe Abley To: Niklas Saers Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, jabley@clear.co.nz Subject: Re: kernel Message-ID: <19990114084447.C2686@clear.co.nz> References: <3.0.2.32.19990113155144.01c71db0@pop.saers.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: <3.0.2.32.19990113155144.01c71db0@pop.saers.com>; from Niklas Saers on Wed, Jan 13, 1999 at 03:51:44PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Jan 13, 1999 at 03:51:44PM +0100, Niklas Saers wrote: > After having cvsuped today (3.0-current), I tried recopiling my kernel > which had compiled just fine earlier today with the 3.0-release sources. > However, upon doing a "make depend" I got loads of unrefferenced pointers > at the aic7xxx-files. Even GENERIC fails to do a proper 'make depend'. Any > ideas why? Did you try doing a "make clean"? Have you checked your kernel config file to make sure it doesn't need updating in view of the various changes that have happened recently? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 13 11:46:43 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA13344 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 11:46:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu [18.24.4.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA13323; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 11:46:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu) Received: (from wollman@localhost) by khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA21929; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 10:30:18 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from wollman) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 10:30:18 -0500 (EST) From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <199901131530.KAA21929@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> To: "Louis A. Mamakos" Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, Luigi Rizzo , jkh@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: "Louis A. Mamakos": kernel networking features contribution.. In-Reply-To: <8498.916206643@sayshell.corp.us.uu.net> References: <199812101740.SAA22071@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> <8498.916206643@sayshell.corp.us.uu.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG < said: > The good news is that I've got approval from my management at UUNET to > contribute this software to the FreeBSD project. Great, and let me apologize for not responding to your earlier message -- it got buried deep in the last few weeks' stack of mail. This sounds a lot like something I would have liked to have built a few years ago when I was still working on integrated-services stuff.... > The timestamp (and other status and control info) is stored in 3 32bit > integers in a modified struct pkthdr inside an mbuf. In a related change, > the default mbuf size was increased from 128 to 256 bytes to avoid > any unfortunate side effects for protocols (e.g., PPP) that assume they > have so-much space available in the first mbuf which would have been 12 > bytes smaller. That's fine; I've been thinking that we should do this for some time, regardless. -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | O Siem / We are all family / O Siem / We're all the same wollman@lcs.mit.edu | O Siem / The fires of freedom Opinions not those of| Dance in the burning flame MIT, LCS, CRS, or NSA| - Susan Aglukark and Chad Irschick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 13 11:49:47 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA14441 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 11:49:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pinhead.parag.codegen.com (ppp-sfx201--103.sirius.net [205.134.235.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA14433 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 11:49:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from parag@cgt.com) Received: from pinhead.parag.codegen.com (localhost.parag.codegen.com [127.0.0.1]) by pinhead.parag.codegen.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA79529 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 11:48:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from parag@pinhead.parag.codegen.com) Message-Id: <199901131948.LAA79529@pinhead.parag.codegen.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: potential ide_pci.c bugster In-Reply-To: Message from "Joseph T. Lee" of "Wed, 13 Jan 1999 02:19:08 PST." <19990113021908.A11598@la.best.com> X-Face: =O'Kj74icvU|oS*<7gS/8'\Pbpm}okVj*@UC!IgkmZQAO!W[|iBiMs*|)n*`X ]pW%m>Oz_mK^Gdazsr.Z0/JsFS1uF8gBVIoChGwOy{EK=<6g?aHE`[\S]C]T0Wm X-URL: http://www.codegen.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed ; boundary="==_Exmh_-2445626140" Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 11:48:32 -0800 From: Parag Patel Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multipart MIME message. --==_Exmh_-2445626140 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In another aside, I still haven't seen my patches for the CMD PCI646U2 UDMA IDE controller come by in the main sources. I had found and fixed one major problem with the current IDE code. The problem is that the pci_ide_candma() routine needs an additional argument to correctly identify the drive *and* controller that can handle DMA. I suspect this may also be causing trouble with other drives and controllers. The extra argument requires mods to i386/isa/wd.c and wdreg.h to pass in the extra argument to pci_ide_candma(). I've appended the latest patches from the kernel sources (as off last night) to this note, if anyone wants to give them a try. Some controllers like the CMD may require that DMA be always initialized regardless of whatever the bit settings are. BTW - the folks who are wiring magic numbers in the file for various chipsets - please create a macro at the top for each one to more easily identify them. It makes the code quite a bit more readable and prevents typo errors. Thank-you. I hope this is of some help. -- Parag Patel --==_Exmh_-2445626140 Content-Type: text/plain ; name="ide-diffs"; charset=us-ascii Content-Description: ide-diffs Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="ide-diffs" Index: pci/ide_pci.c =================================================================== RCS file: /src/freebsd/src/sys/pci/ide_pci.c,v retrieving revision 1.23 diff -c -r1.23 ide_pci.c *** ide_pci.c 1999/01/13 04:40:50 1.23 --- ide_pci.c 1999/01/13 18:59:30 *************** *** 61,66 **** --- 61,67 ---- #endif #define PROMISE_ULTRA33 0x4d33105a + #define CMD_PCI646U2_ID 0x06461095 struct ide_pci_cookie; /* structs vendor_fns, ide_pci_cookie are recursive */ *************** *** 159,165 **** static void ide_pci_attach(pcici_t tag, int unit); ! static void *ide_pci_candma(int, int); static int ide_pci_dmainit(void *, struct wdparams *, int (*)(int, void *), --- 160,166 ---- static void ide_pci_attach(pcici_t tag, int unit); ! static void *ide_pci_candma(int, int, int); static int ide_pci_dmainit(void *, struct wdparams *, int (*)(int, void *), *************** *** 723,728 **** --- 724,818 ---- promise_status }; + static void + cmd646_status(struct ide_pci_cookie *cookie) + { + /*int iobase_bm = cookie->iobase_bm;*/ + pcici_t tag = cookie->tag; + int i; + + printf("cmd646_status: %d:%d register dump:\n", + cookie->ctlr, cookie->unit); + + for (i = 0; i < 0x80; i += 16) + { + printf(" %2x:%8lx %8lx %8lx %8lx\n", + i, pci_conf_read(tag, i), pci_conf_read(tag, i + 4), + pci_conf_read(tag, i + 8), pci_conf_read(tag, i + 12)); + } + } + + static int + cmd646_dmainit(struct ide_pci_cookie *cookie, + struct wdparams *wp, + int(*wdcmd)(int, void *), + void *wdinfo) + { + int iobase_bm = cookie->iobase_bm; + /*int ctlr = cookie->ctlr;*/ + int unit = cookie->unit; + int mrdmode, bmista, udidetcr, r; + #define BMRDMODE 1 + #define BUDIDETCR 3 + + if (udma_mode(wp) >= 2) + { + mrdmode = inb(iobase_bm + BMRDMODE); + udidetcr = inb(iobase_bm + BUDIDETCR); + bmista = inb(iobase_bm + BMISTA_PORT); + + outb(iobase_bm + BMRDMODE, mrdmode | 0x08C); + outb(iobase_bm + BUDIDETCR, udidetcr | (unit ? 0x2 : 0x1)); + outb(iobase_bm + BMISTA_PORT, + bmista | (unit ? BMISTA_DMA1CAP : BMISTA_DMA0CAP) | + BMISTA_DMA_ERROR); + + if (bootverbose) + cmd646_status(cookie); + + /* set the drive to Ultra-DMA mode */ + r = wdcmd(WDDMA_UDMA2, wdinfo); + + if (!r) + { + printf("cmd646_dmainit: setting DMA mode failed\n"); + return 0; + } + + return 1; + } + + if (pio_mode(wp) >= 4 && mwdma_mode(wp) >= 2) + { + bmista = inb(iobase_bm + BMISTA_PORT); + outb(iobase_bm + BMISTA_PORT, + bmista | (unit ? BMISTA_DMA1CAP : BMISTA_DMA0CAP) | + BMISTA_DMA_ERROR); + + if (bootverbose) + cmd646_status(cookie); + + /* set the drive to DMA mode */ + r = wdcmd(WDDMA_MDMA2, wdinfo); + + if (!r) + { + printf("cmd646_dmainit: setting DMA mode failed\n"); + return 0; + } + + return 1; + } + + return 0; + } + + static struct vendor_fns vs_cmd646 = + { + cmd646_dmainit, + cmd646_status + }; + /* Intel PIIX, PIIX3, and PIIX4 IDE controller subfunctions */ static void intel_piix_dump_drive(char *ctlr, *************** *** 1170,1175 **** --- 1260,1267 ---- return ("Cyrix 5530 Bus-master IDE controller"); if (type == 0x522910b9) return ("Acer Aladdin IV/V (M5229) Bus-master IDE controller"); + if (type == CMD_PCI646U2_ID) + return ("CMD PCI646U2 Ultra/33 IDE controller"); if (data & 0x8000) return ("PCI IDE controller (busmaster capable)"); #ifndef CMD640 *************** *** 1201,1207 **** /* set up vendor-specific stuff */ type = pci_conf_read(tag, PCI_ID_REG); ! if (type != PROMISE_ULTRA33) { /* is it busmaster capable? bail if not */ class = pci_conf_read(tag, PCI_CLASS_REG); if (!(class & 0x8000)) { --- 1293,1299 ---- /* set up vendor-specific stuff */ type = pci_conf_read(tag, PCI_ID_REG); ! if (type != PROMISE_ULTRA33 && type != CMD_PCI646U2_ID) { /* is it busmaster capable? bail if not */ class = pci_conf_read(tag, PCI_CLASS_REG); if (!(class & 0x8000)) { *************** *** 1237,1252 **** printf("cyrix 5530\n"); vp = &vs_cyrix_5530; break; case 0x522910B9: /* Acer Aladdin IV/V (M5229) */ vp = &vs_acer; break; default: /* everybody else */ vp = &vs_generic; break; } ! if (type != PROMISE_ULTRA33) { if ((class & 0x100) == 0) { iobase_wd_1 = IO_WD1; altiobase_wd_1 = iobase_wd_1 + wd_altsts; --- 1329,1351 ---- printf("cyrix 5530\n"); vp = &vs_cyrix_5530; break; + case 0x522910B9: /* Acer Aladdin IV/V (M5229) */ vp = &vs_acer; break; + + case CMD_PCI646U2_ID: + /* CMD PCI646U2-based controllers */ + vp = &vs_cmd646; + break; + default: /* everybody else */ vp = &vs_generic; break; } ! if (type != PROMISE_ULTRA33 && type != CMD_PCI646U2_ID) { if ((class & 0x100) == 0) { iobase_wd_1 = IO_WD1; altiobase_wd_1 = iobase_wd_1 + wd_altsts; *************** *** 1321,1327 **** printf(" %d", dvup->id_unit); dvup++; ! pci_map_int(tag, wdintr, (void *) dvp->id_unit, &bio_imask); if (dvup->id_id == 0) break; --- 1420,1426 ---- printf(" %d", dvup->id_unit); dvup++; ! pci_map_int(tag, (pci_inthand_t *)wdintr, (void *) dvp->id_unit, &bio_imask); if (dvup->id_id == 0) break; *************** *** 1336,1342 **** } if (dvup->id_unit == biotabunit + 2) { ! pci_map_int(tag, wdintr, (void *) ((int) dvp->id_unit + 1), &bio_imask); dvup->id_iobase = dvp1->id_iobase; printf(" %d", dvup->id_unit); dvup++; --- 1435,1441 ---- } if (dvup->id_unit == biotabunit + 2) { ! pci_map_int(tag, (pci_inthand_t *)wdintr, (void *) ((int) dvp->id_unit + 1), &bio_imask); dvup->id_iobase = dvp1->id_iobase; printf(" %d", dvup->id_unit); dvup++; *************** *** 1346,1352 **** } if (dvup->id_unit == biotabunit + 3) { ! pci_map_int(tag, wdintr, (void *) ((int) dvp->id_unit + 1), &bio_imask); dvup->id_iobase = dvp1->id_iobase; printf(" %d", dvup->id_unit); } --- 1445,1451 ---- } if (dvup->id_unit == biotabunit + 3) { ! pci_map_int(tag, (pci_inthand_t *)wdintr, (void *) ((int) dvp->id_unit + 1), &bio_imask); dvup->id_iobase = dvp1->id_iobase; printf(" %d", dvup->id_unit); } *************** *** 1453,1465 **** * Return a cookie if we can do DMA on the specified (iobase_wd, unit). */ static void * ! ide_pci_candma(int iobase_wd, int unit) { struct ide_pci_cookie *cp; cp = softc.cookies.lh_first; while(cp) { ! if (cp->unit == unit && ((iobase_wd == 0) || (cp->iobase_wd == iobase_wd))) break; cp = cp->le.le_next; --- 1552,1564 ---- * Return a cookie if we can do DMA on the specified (iobase_wd, unit). */ static void * ! ide_pci_candma(int iobase_wd, int ctlr, int unit) { struct ide_pci_cookie *cp; cp = softc.cookies.lh_first; while(cp) { ! if (cp->ctlr == ctlr && cp->unit == unit && ((iobase_wd == 0) || (cp->iobase_wd == iobase_wd))) break; cp = cp->le.le_next; *************** *** 1483,1491 **** /* * If the controller status indicates that DMA is configured already, * we flounce happily away */ ! if (inb(cp->iobase_bm + BMISTA_PORT) & ! ((cp->unit == 0) ? BMISTA_DMA0CAP : BMISTA_DMA1CAP)) return 1; /* We take a stab at it with device-dependent code */ --- 1582,1592 ---- /* * If the controller status indicates that DMA is configured already, * we flounce happily away + * [CMD 646 part should always be initialized] */ ! if (cp->type != CMD_PCI646U2_ID && ! inb(cp->iobase_bm + BMISTA_PORT) & ! ((cp->unit == 0) ? BMISTA_DMA0CAP : BMISTA_DMA1CAP)) return 1; /* We take a stab at it with device-dependent code */ Index: pci/wdc_p.c =================================================================== RCS file: /src/freebsd/src/sys/pci/wdc_p.c,v retrieving revision 1.4 diff -c -r1.4 wdc_p.c *** wdc_p.c 1998/12/14 06:32:57 1.4 --- wdc_p.c 1998/12/14 11:17:24 *************** *** 40,45 **** --- 40,46 ---- */ #define CMD640B_PCI_ID 0x06401095 + #define CMD_PCI646U2_ID 0x06461095 static const char* wdc_pci_probe __P((pcici_t tag, pcidi_t type)); static void wdc_pci_attach __P((pcici_t config_id, int unit)); *************** *** 62,67 **** --- 63,71 ---- if (type == CMD640B_PCI_ID) return "CMD 640B IDE"; + if (type == CMD_PCI646U2_ID) + return "CMD 646U2 IDE"; + return NULL; } *************** *** 69,74 **** --- 73,80 ---- wdc_pci_attach(pcici_t config_id, int unit) { if (pci_conf_read(config_id, PCI_ID_REG) == CMD640B_PCI_ID) + wdc_pci(Q_CMD640B); + if (pci_conf_read(config_id, PCI_ID_REG) == CMD_PCI646U2_ID) wdc_pci(Q_CMD640B); } Index: i386/isa/wd.c =================================================================== RCS file: /src/freebsd/src/sys/i386/isa/wd.c,v retrieving revision 1.184 diff -c -r1.184 wd.c *** wd.c 1999/01/12 01:04:38 1.184 --- wd.c 1999/01/12 11:21:17 *************** *** 315,321 **** #if !defined(DISABLE_PCI_IDE) && (NPCI > 0) #ifdef ALI_V if ((wddma[interface].wdd_candma) && ! ((du->dk_dmacookie = wddma[interface].wdd_candma(dvp->id_iobase,du->dk_ctrlr)) != NULL)) { du->dk_port = dvp->id_iobase; du->dk_altport = wddma[interface].wdd_altiobase(du->dk_dmacookie); --- 315,321 ---- #if !defined(DISABLE_PCI_IDE) && (NPCI > 0) #ifdef ALI_V if ((wddma[interface].wdd_candma) && ! ((du->dk_dmacookie = wddma[interface].wdd_candma(dvp->id_iobase,du->dk_ctrlr, unit)) != NULL)) { du->dk_port = dvp->id_iobase; du->dk_altport = wddma[interface].wdd_altiobase(du->dk_dmacookie); *************** *** 325,331 **** } #endif if (wddma[interface].wdd_candma) { ! du->dk_dmacookie = wddma[interface].wdd_candma(dvp->id_iobase,du->dk_ctrlr); du->dk_port = dvp->id_iobase; du->dk_altport = wddma[interface].wdd_altiobase(du->dk_dmacookie); } else { --- 325,331 ---- } #endif if (wddma[interface].wdd_candma) { ! du->dk_dmacookie = wddma[interface].wdd_candma(dvp->id_iobase,du->dk_ctrlr, unit); du->dk_port = dvp->id_iobase; du->dk_altport = wddma[interface].wdd_altiobase(du->dk_dmacookie); } else { *************** *** 1098,1104 **** du = wddrives[dkunit(bp->b_dev)]; /* finish off DMA */ ! if (du->dk_flags & (DKFL_DMA|DKFL_USEDMA)) { /* XXX SMP boxes sometimes generate an early intr. Why? */ if ((wddma[du->dk_interface].wdd_dmastatus(du->dk_dmacookie) & WDDS_INTERRUPT) != 0) --- 1098,1104 ---- du = wddrives[dkunit(bp->b_dev)]; /* finish off DMA */ ! if ((du->dk_flags & (DKFL_DMA|DKFL_USEDMA)) == (DKFL_DMA|DKFL_USEDMA)) { /* XXX SMP boxes sometimes generate an early intr. Why? */ if ((wddma[du->dk_interface].wdd_dmastatus(du->dk_dmacookie) & WDDS_INTERRUPT) != 0) *************** *** 1893,1899 **** * check drive's DMA capability */ if (wddma[du->dk_interface].wdd_candma) { ! du->dk_dmacookie = wddma[du->dk_interface].wdd_candma(du->dk_port, du->dk_ctrlr); /* does user want this? */ if ((du->cfg_flags & WDOPT_DMA) && /* have we got a DMA controller? */ --- 1893,1899 ---- * check drive's DMA capability */ if (wddma[du->dk_interface].wdd_candma) { ! du->dk_dmacookie = wddma[du->dk_interface].wdd_candma(du->dk_port, du->dk_ctrlr, du->dk_unit); /* does user want this? */ if ((du->cfg_flags & WDOPT_DMA) && /* have we got a DMA controller? */ Index: i386/isa/wdreg.h =================================================================== RCS file: /src/freebsd/src/sys/i386/isa/wdreg.h,v retrieving revision 1.24 diff -c -r1.24 wdreg.h *** wdreg.h 1999/01/12 01:04:38 1.24 --- wdreg.h 1999/01/12 11:21:17 *************** *** 262,268 **** */ struct wddma { void *(*wdd_candma) /* returns a cookie if PCI */ ! __P((int ctlr, int drive)); int (*wdd_dmaverify) /* verify that request is DMA-able */ __P((void *cookie, char *vaddr, u_long len, int direction)); int (*wdd_dmaprep) /* prepare DMA hardware */ --- 262,268 ---- */ struct wddma { void *(*wdd_candma) /* returns a cookie if PCI */ ! __P((int iobase, int ctlr, int drive)); int (*wdd_dmaverify) /* verify that request is DMA-able */ __P((void *cookie, char *vaddr, u_long len, int direction)); int (*wdd_dmaprep) /* prepare DMA hardware */ --==_Exmh_-2445626140-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 13 11:56:04 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA16040 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 11:56:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtpott1.nortel.ca (smtpott1.nortel.ca [192.58.194.78]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA15985 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 11:55:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from atrens@nortelnetworks.com) Received: from zcars01t by smtpott1; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 14:54:37 -0500 Received: from wmerh01z.ca.nortel.com by zcars01t; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 14:54:03 -0500 Received: from hcarp00g.ca.nortel.com (atrens@hcarp00g.ca.nortel.com@wmerh01z) by wmerh01z.ca.nortel.com with ESMTP (8.7.1/8.7.1) id OAA02806; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 14:54:03 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 15:03:13 -0500 (EST) From: "Andrew Atrens" Reply-To: "Andrew Atrens" To: lcremean@tidalwave.net cc: "Joseph T. Lee" , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: potential ide_pci.c bugster In-Reply-To: <19990113105152.A5109@tidalwave.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 13 Jan 1999, Lee Cremeans wrote: > Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 10:51:52 -0500 > From: Lee Cremeans > Reply-To: lcremean@tidalwave.net > To: Joseph T. Lee , "Atrens, Andrew (A.B.) [EXCHANGE:SKY:1V45:BNR]" , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: potential ide_pci.c bugster > > > wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 flags 0xa0ffa0ff on isa > > wdc1: unit 0 (wd2): , LBA, 32-bit, multi-block-8, sleep-hack > > wd2: 258MB (528640 sectors), 524 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S > > > > wd2: interrupt timeout (status 58 error 1) > > wd2: wdtimeout() DMA status 4 > > > > -current as of 10th. Error pops up once in a while with or without > > softupdates. I use it for /usr/src so nothing vital on it..yet. > > This drive is too old to support even multiword 2 DMA. If you're getting > timeouts, and they seem to only happen when accessing certain files or > areas, then your drive has some bad-but-not-totally-dead sectors on it, and > the drive electronics are being slow about correcting the error. > If this is the case you'll hear an audible `clicking' from the drive as it attempts to re-read the bad data block. I'm curious, why is the controller reporting that sleep-hack is enabled when the wdc flags indicate that it shouldn't be? you asked for: > wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 flags 0xa0ffa0ff on isa ~ inputted options `0xa' == `1010' ( DMA + 32-bit transfers ) you got: > wdc1: unit 0 (wd2): , LBA, 32-bit, multi-block-8, sleep-hack translates to options `0xd' == `1101' ( LBA, 32-bit, Sleep hack ) or, wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 flags 0xd0ffd0ff on isa ~ So you didn't get the options you asked for :) -- This translation is taken from man wd(4) (and /sys/i386/isa/wd.c) which describes the flag bitset is mapped like so: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 |||| |||+------ 0x1000 Use LBA addressing ||+------- 0x2000 Probe for and use DMA |+-------- 0x4000 APM Sleep hack +--------- 0x8000 Test and use the 32bit transfers Since the `flags' seems to be an `|' of device flags + controller flags, stored in isa_biotab_wdc[] and isa_devtab_bio[] in ioconf.c, the only way that I can see that sleep hack _could_ be `enabled' is if something is trashing those tables. Andrew. -- +----------------------------------------------------+ = Andrew Atrens - Nortel Networks (atrens@nortel.ca) = = P.O. Box 3511, Station C Ottawa, Canada = = = = All opinions expressed are mine, not Nortel's. = +----------------------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 13 12:19:08 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA21049 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 12:19:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from lamb.sas.com (lamb.sas.com [192.35.83.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA21039 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 12:19:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jwd@unx.sas.com) Received: from mozart (mozart.unx.sas.com [192.58.184.8]) by lamb.sas.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA21250 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 15:17:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from bb01f39.unx.sas.com by mozart (5.65c/SAS/Domains/5-6-90) id AA15098; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 15:17:55 -0500 Received: (from jwd@localhost) by bb01f39.unx.sas.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA52032 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 15:17:55 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jwd) From: "John W. DeBoskey" Message-Id: <199901132017.PAA52032@bb01f39.unx.sas.com> Subject: 3.0-19990113-SNAP install failure(signal 11) To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 15:17:55 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I burned a cdrom with 3.0-19990113-SNAP on it, after adding /boot/loader to the new 2.88 meg floppy install. (Could we add this release.8?) The cd boots correctly, and the install seems to work like a charm until (from the debug screen): lib/X11/Xf86Setup/mseproto98.tcl man/man1/XF86Setup.1.gz man/man1/xmseconfig.1.gz 175 blocks Debug: Signal 11 Caught! That's bad! This is a full install, with everything selected, run interactively, not from a install.cfg file. After this happens, sysinstall recovers enough to shutdown and exit correctly, and the machine can then be boot'd from the newly installed system... I'm currently looking into sysinstall to see if I can figure out where we're dying... Any pointers are appreciated. Thanks! John To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 13 12:38:17 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA25869 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 12:38:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gratis.grondar.za (gratis.grondar.za [196.7.18.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA25856 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 12:38:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from greenpeace.grondar.za (greenpeace.grondar.za [196.7.18.132]) by gratis.grondar.za (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA82018; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 22:36:56 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grondar.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by greenpeace.grondar.za (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id WAA02328; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 22:36:55 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Message-Id: <199901132036.WAA02328@greenpeace.grondar.za> To: "Open Systems Inc." cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: syscons.o kernel compile problem... In-Reply-To: Your message of " Wed, 13 Jan 1999 10:18:39 CST." References: Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 22:36:55 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Open Systems Inc." wrote: > Coming back from a LONG christmas vacation I CVSup -current as usual and > go to build a kernel and get this : > > -I../../../include -DKERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf vers.c > loading kernel > syscons.o: In function `scvidprobe': > syscons.o(.text+0x231): undefined reference to `vid_configure' > syscons.o(.text+0x24e): undefined reference to `vid_allocate' > syscons.o(.text+0x26b): undefined reference to `vid_get_adapter' Read mail first; complain about breakage next. M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 13 12:52:37 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA28122 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 12:52:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jli.com (jli.com [199.2.111.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA28109 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 12:52:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from trost@cloud.rain.com) Received: (qmail 10218 invoked by uid 4); 13 Jan 1999 20:51:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 360 invoked from network); 13 Jan 1999 20:49:52 -0000 Received: from softdnserror (HELO cloud.rain.com) (127.0.0.1) by softdnserror with SMTP; 13 Jan 1999 20:49:52 -0000 To: Niklas Saers cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: kernel References: <3.0.2.32.19990113155144.01c71db0@pop.saers.com> In-reply-to: Your message of Wed, 13 Jan 1999 15:51:44 +0100. <3.0.2.32.19990113155144.01c71db0@pop.saers.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <356.916260591.1@cloud.rain.com> Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 12:49:52 -0800 Message-ID: <357.916260592@cloud.rain.com> From: Bill Trost Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Niklas Saers writes: After having cvsuped today (3.0-current), I tried recopiling my kernel which had compiled just fine earlier today with the 3.0-release sources. However, upon doing a "make depend" I got loads of unrefferenced pointers at the aic7xxx-files. I encountered the same problem -- apparently, something in the kernel build tool chain has changed semi-recently. I had to "make world" before I could build a new kernel -- re-config-ing, even with a new config, didn't cut it. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 13 12:56:17 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA28826 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 12:56:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from korin.warman.org.pl (korin.nask.waw.pl [195.187.243.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA28810 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 12:56:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from abial@nask.pl) Received: from localhost (abial@localhost) by korin.warman.org.pl (8.9.1/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA19760; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 22:00:49 +0100 (CET) X-Authentication-Warning: korin.warman.org.pl: abial owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 22:00:48 +0100 (CET) From: Andrzej Bialecki X-Sender: abial@korin.warman.org.pl To: Stefan `Sec` Zehl cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: /boot/loader problem with unusual setup. In-Reply-To: <19990113161942.A9800@matrix.42.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 13 Jan 1999, Stefan `Sec` Zehl wrote: > Hi, > > I have a problem with the new /boot/loader. My Disk-setup may be a bit > unusual, though. > > I have 2 scsi-disks and one ide disk. Setup as follows: > > Bios Drive no.| Type | Content > 0 | SCSI | Windows > 1 | SCSI | (mixed) > 2 | IDE | FreeBSD > > When I currently boot, i get BootEasy from Drive 0, where i press F3 for > disk 2. There i get the old FreeBSD-loader on which i boot with: > > 2:wd(0,a)/kernel > > which works like a charm so far. > > Now, if I boot 2:wd(0,a)/boot/loader I get to the new loder. > > Here i do: > > set currdev=disk3s1a: > load /kernel > boot > > which boots the kernel, and panics with 'cannot mount root'. > > What else do I have to change ? Where ${rootdev} points to? Shouldn't you set it accordingly to disk3s1a:? Andrzej Bialecki -------------------- ++-------++ ------------------------------------- ||PicoBSD|| FreeBSD in your pocket? Go and see: Research & Academic |+-------+| "Small & Embedded FreeBSD" Network in Poland | |TT~~~| | http://www.freebsd.org/~picobsd/ -------------------- ~-+==---+-+ ------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 13 13:01:55 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA29901 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 13:01:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from panzer.plutotech.com (panzer.plutotech.com [206.168.67.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA29880 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 13:01:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ken@panzer.plutotech.com) Received: (from ken@localhost) by panzer.plutotech.com (8.9.1/8.8.5) id OAA52713; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 14:00:19 -0700 (MST) From: "Kenneth D. Merry" Message-Id: <199901132100.OAA52713@panzer.plutotech.com> Subject: Re: kernel In-Reply-To: <19990114084447.C2686@clear.co.nz> from Joe Abley at "Jan 14, 99 08:44:47 am" To: jabley@clear.co.nz (Joe Abley) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 14:00:19 -0700 (MST) Cc: berenmls@saers.com, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28s (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=ELM916261219-52648-0_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --ELM916261219-52648-0_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Joe Abley wrote... > On Wed, Jan 13, 1999 at 03:51:44PM +0100, Niklas Saers wrote: > > After having cvsuped today (3.0-current), I tried recopiling my kernel > > which had compiled just fine earlier today with the 3.0-release sources. > > However, upon doing a "make depend" I got loads of unrefferenced pointers > > at the aic7xxx-files. Even GENERIC fails to do a proper 'make depend'. Any > > ideas why? > > Did you try doing a "make clean"? Have you checked your kernel config > file to make sure it doesn't need updating in view of the various changes > that have happened recently? It won't be fixed by that. Here's a patch from Eivind that fixes the problem. If it passes the Bruce test, maybe we can commit it. Ken -- Kenneth Merry ken@plutotech.com --ELM916261219-52648-0_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=eivind.aicasm.patch Content-Description: eivind.aicasm.patch Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Index: Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.4 diff -u -r1.4 Makefile --- Makefile 1997/09/27 19:37:22 1.4 +++ Makefile 1999/01/05 10:21:07 @@ -19,6 +19,10 @@ DEPENDFILE= .endif + +.if exists(../../../include) +CFLAGS+= -nostdinc -I../../ -I../../../include +.endif CFLAGS+= -I. NOMAN= noman Index: aicasm_symbol.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aicasm_symbol.c,v retrieving revision 1.5 diff -u -r1.5 aicasm_symbol.c --- aicasm_symbol.c 1998/09/15 07:24:17 1.5 +++ aicasm_symbol.c 1999/01/05 10:21:07 @@ -30,9 +30,9 @@ #include +#include #include -#include #include #include #include --ELM916261219-52648-0_-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 13 13:22:35 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA03765 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 13:22:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from isbalham.ist.co.uk (isbalham.ist.co.uk [192.31.26.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA03747 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 13:22:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rb@gid.co.uk) Received: from gid.co.uk (uucp@localhost) by isbalham.ist.co.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with UUCP id VAA21653; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 21:20:42 GMT (envelope-from rb@gid.co.uk) Received: from [194.32.164.2] by seagoon.gid.co.uk; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 21:06:24 GMT X-Sender: rb@194.32.164.1 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <19990113021908.A11598@la.best.com> References: ; from Andrew Atrens on Tue, Jan 12, 1999 at 05:12:13PM -0500 <19990112004945.A68879@tidalwave.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 21:06:22 +0000 To: "Joseph T. Lee" From: Bob Bishop Subject: Re: potential ide_pci.c bugster Cc: Andrew Atrens , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, lcremean@tidalwave.net Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 2:19 am -0800 13/1/99, Joseph T. Lee wrote: [...] >wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 flags 0xa0ffa0ff on isa >wdc1: unit 0 (wd2): , LBA, 32-bit, multi-block-8, >sleep-hack Intereseting that all these reports include the word QUANTUM, but they are all different models... -- Bob Bishop (0118) 977 4017 international code +44 118 rb@gid.co.uk fax (0118) 989 4254 between 0800 and 1800 UK To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 13 13:24:59 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA04086 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 13:24:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA04079 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 13:24:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA89480; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 13:23:12 -0800 (PST) To: Pascal Hofstee cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Chuck Badges for computer cases ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 13 Jan 1999 12:56:31 +0100." Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 13:23:12 -0800 Message-ID: <89476.916262592@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > A friend of mine just pointed me towards the following URL ... > > http://www.scotgold.com/Linux.htm We've had these for FreeBSD for at least 4 months now. :-) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 13 13:37:54 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA05848 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 13:37:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from st-lcremean.tidalwave.net (host-e186.tidalwave.net [208.213.203.186] (may be forged)) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA05843 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 13:37:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lee@st-lcremean.tidalwave.net) Received: (from lee@localhost) by st-lcremean.tidalwave.net (8.9.1/8.8.8) id QAA05789; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 16:36:30 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from lee) Message-ID: <19990113163630.A5710@tidalwave.net> Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 16:36:30 -0500 From: Lee Cremeans To: Bob Bishop Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: potential ide_pci.c bugster Reply-To: lcremean@tidalwave.net References: ; <19990112004945.A68879@tidalwave.net> <19990113021908.A11598@la.best.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: ; from Bob Bishop on Wed, Jan 13, 1999 at 09:06:22PM +0000 X-OS: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT X-Evil: microsoft.com Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Jan 13, 1999 at 09:06:22PM +0000, Bob Bishop wrote: > At 2:19 am -0800 13/1/99, Joseph T. Lee wrote: > [...] > >wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 flags 0xa0ffa0ff on isa > >wdc1: unit 0 (wd2): , LBA, 32-bit, multi-block-8, > >sleep-hack > > Intereseting that all these reports include the word QUANTUM, but they are > all different models... Well, in the first case, the offending drive was a Seagate; the Quantum was working fine. In both cases, it seems, there are parts of the drives that are failing -- if it were the UDMA causing it, you'd know because *all* writes would be held up. Also, this old 270MB Quantum doesn't even have support for multiword 2 DMA (we don't support multiword 1 or any of the single-word modes). -- +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Lee Cremeans -- Manassas, VA, USA (WakkyMouse on DALnet and WTnet)| | lcremean@tidalwave.net| http://st-lcremean.tidalwave.net/~lee | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 13 13:39:01 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA06033 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 13:39:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA06025 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 13:38:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from julian@whistle.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by alpo.whistle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA20615; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 13:27:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from current1.whistle.com(207.76.205.22) via SMTP by alpo.whistle.com, id smtpdt20608; Wed Jan 13 21:27:28 1999 Message-ID: <369D0FBC.41C67EA6@whistle.com> Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 13:27:24 -0800 From: Julian Elischer Organization: Whistle Communications X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.7-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Joseph T. Lee" CC: Andrew Atrens , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, lcremean@tidalwave.net Subject: Re: potential ide_pci.c bugster References: <19990112004945.A68879@tidalwave.net> <19990113021908.A11598@la.best.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Joseph T. Lee wrote: > wd2: 258MB (528640 sectors), 524 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S > > wd2: interrupt timeout (status 58 error 1) > wd2: wdtimeout() DMA status 4 > > -current as of 10th. Error pops up once in a while with or without > softupdates. I use it for /usr/src so nothing vital on it..yet. there were a few things changed just recently.. does it still happen? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 13 13:53:31 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA08098 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 13:53:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from set.scient.com (set.Scient.COM [208.29.209.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA08086 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 13:53:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from enkhyl@scient.com) Received: by set.scient.com; (5.65v4.0/1.3/10May95) id AA01626; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 13:51:40 -0800 Received: from somewhere by smtpxd Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 13:52:10 -0800 (PST) From: Christopher Nielsen X-Sender: enkhyl@ender.sf.scient.com Reply-To: Christopher Nielsen To: Alfred Perlstein Cc: John Birrell , John Hay , bde@zeta.org.au, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: /usr/obj/elf, /usr/obj/aout, /usr/obj - breaks make all vs make buildworld, and other things. Time to make elf the default In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 12 Jan 1999, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > On Wed, 13 Jan 1999, John Birrell wrote: > > > Since most people only care about i386 (and to a lesser extent alpha), > > I doubt that the cross-compilation issues are worth considering at this > > point. People are too ready to shoot down any new ideas. > > Anything to improve the state of cross compiling is a good thing. Anyone > who thinks otherwise is being a stick in the mud and should be ignored. I have to agree with Alfred here. With the work we're starting to do on the UltraSPARC port, better support for cross-compilation would be very beneficial. I don't see how it can really hurt anything, either. -- Christopher Nielsen Scient: The eBusiness Systems Innovator cnielsen@scient.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 13 14:00:29 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA08895 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 14:00:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from schuimpje.snt.utwente.nl (schuimpje.snt.utwente.nl [130.89.238.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA08864; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 14:00:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gelderen@mediaport.org) Received: from wit395301.student.utwente.nl ([130.89.235.121]:7684 "HELO deskfix" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by schuimpje.snt.utwente.nl with SMTP id <8076-23388>; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 22:59:03 +0100 Message-ID: <005b01be3f3f$d33e0820$1400000a@deskfix.local> From: "Jeroen C. van Gelderen" To: "Jason J. Horton" , "Pascal Hofstee" Cc: , Subject: Re: Chuck Badges for computer cases ? Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 22:58:16 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG From: Jason J. Horton >http://www.freebsdmall.com/promotional/ >sold here for US$1.00, not bad > >Promotional doesn't seem like that noticable a section. >Any ideas on how to bring more attention to it? It's cool stuff. Name the section 'Cool Stuff'... Cheers, Jeroen -- Jeroen C. van Gelderen -- gelderen@mediaport.org -- &[8-D}~<= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 13 14:08:31 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA10153 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 14:08:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ceia.nordier.com (m1-18-dbn.dial-up.net [196.34.155.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA10138 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 14:08:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rnordier@nordier.com) Received: (from rnordier@localhost) by ceia.nordier.com (8.8.7/8.6.12) id AAA00700 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 00:06:45 +0200 (SAT) From: Robert Nordier Message-Id: <199901132206.AAA00700@ceia.nordier.com> Subject: Re: netboot & ELF kernels In-Reply-To: <199901131708.JAA29927@whistle.com> from Doug Ambrisko at "Jan 13, 99 09:08:43 am" To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 00:06:42 +0200 (SAT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Doug Ambrisko wrote: > Robert Nordier writes: > | Bjoern Fischer wrote: > | > | > I've recently noticed that ELF is now default on a > | > kernel build. No problems with ELF kernels on a server > | > machine, but netboot fails to load an ELF kernel (lack > | > of support, it seems). > | > > | > Is it on the list to add support for ELF kernels to > | > netboot? Or, is there any alternative way to boot > | > a diskless machine (diskless -- not even a floppy)? > | > | One alternative is Etherboot (http://www.slug.org.au) which Doug > | Ambrisko has patched for FreeBSD and which > | will most likely be added to the ports collection. > | > | I've been sitting on this for some time (sorry, Doug), but will > | try to finish looking at it in the next few days. > > I've been meaning to ask you about them. I know they are not perfect > but something is better then nothing! Hopefully some other people > can work on making it better once the port is made. The complicated > part is that it depends on the linux-devel package and a slight change. > What I did was replace the linux ld with a perl script to run brandelf > linux after the ld was done. This was due to the Etherboot package > creating static bins that are required during the build process. Having spent some time with this stuff already, I'd certainly recommend that people look at it as a potential FreeBSD netboot replacement. > If I should send it to someone else to look at I can or maybe I can get > Julian or Archie to add it. There are probably two perspectives involved. I've been particularly interested in what you sent from the point of view of the new boot code project, and how it can fit in to satisfy netbooting requirements generally. But the ports issue is really much simpler -- does it work? is it useful? (obviously yes) -- so there's really not any reason to delay committing it. As the ports collection tends to have its own special set of rules and conventions, the quickest route may be to submit the usual PR, allowing any of the ports specialist committers to check and commit the files. -- Robert Nordier To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 13 14:08:43 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA10214 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 14:08:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ceia.nordier.com (m1-18-dbn.dial-up.net [196.34.155.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA10165 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 14:08:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rnordier@nordier.com) Received: (from rnordier@localhost) by ceia.nordier.com (8.8.7/8.6.12) id PAA11258; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 15:37:36 +0200 (SAT) From: Robert Nordier Message-Id: <199901131337.PAA11258@ceia.nordier.com> Subject: Re: 3.0R--> -current. In-Reply-To: <19990112215705.A25754@emu.sourcee.com> from "Norman C. Rice" at "Jan 12, 99 09:57:05 pm" To: nrice@emu.sourcee.com (Norman C. Rice) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 15:37:34 +0200 (SAT) Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Norman C. Rice wrote: > In addition to the information contained in /usr/src/UPDATING and the > sources that it references, I encountered the following problems > during recent updates (1/9/99 and 1/10/99). > 5. On a multi-boot system it was necessary to copy the new boot > sector after the disklabel -B process required by the new > loader. Could you clarify this a little? I'm assuming you're referring to using a boot manager which functions differently to boot0/booteasy. A paragraph which can just be added to the existing documentation would probably be a help to anyone with the same setup. Thanks. -- Robert Nordier To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 13 14:10:25 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA10508 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 14:10:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA10502 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 14:10:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA89778; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 14:08:43 -0800 (PST) To: David Wolfskill cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3.0.0-19990112-SNAP: boot.flp Of Unusual Size In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 13 Jan 1999 10:36:50 PST." <199901131836.KAA20440@pau-amma.whistle.com> Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 14:08:43 -0800 Message-ID: <89775.916265323@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I'm having slightly more trouble than usual making boot.flp fit on a > 1.44 MB floppy. For reference: "Oops" I think I might have tweaked the wrong size variable. :-) Will fix, thanks! - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 13 14:15:34 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA11052 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 14:15:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA11044 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 14:15:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA01513; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 14:10:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199901132210.OAA01513@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: David Wolfskill , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3.0.0-19990112-SNAP: boot.flp Of Unusual Size In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 13 Jan 1999 14:08:43 PST." <89775.916265323@zippy.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 14:10:50 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > I'm having slightly more trouble than usual making boot.flp fit on a > > 1.44 MB floppy. For reference: > > "Oops" > > I think I might have tweaked the wrong size variable. :-) FWIW, the kern/mfsroot install seems to be working here. I'll see whether I also die with the "where the (I*&^( are the bootstrap bits" error. (Where is sysinstall looking for them?) -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 13 14:28:08 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA12809 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 14:28:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from janus.syracuse.net (janus.syracuse.net [205.232.47.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA12769 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 14:27:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from green@unixhelp.org) Received: from localhost (green@localhost) by janus.syracuse.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA19175; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 17:26:40 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 17:26:40 -0500 (EST) From: Brian Feldman X-Sender: green@janus.syracuse.net To: Archie Cobbs cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Weird file corruption? In-Reply-To: <199901130527.VAA10163@bubba.whistle.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 12 Jan 1999, Archie Cobbs wrote: > Brian Feldman writes: > > Then I experienced problems compiling i86.c, which should have been (once > > extracted again, this part of the archive wasn't corrupted) Wait a second here: I extracted it once and the archive reported no errors! Gzip and tar were fine with it. > > static void i_xchg_axcx(void) /* Opcode 0x91 */ > > { > > XchgAXReg(CX); > > } > > but was > > static > > static voidaxcx(void) /* Opcode 0x91 */ > > { > > XchgAXReg(CX); > > } > > > > So far, I really haven't seen this much, but I'm getting worried. Anyone have > > any idea wha the problem is? > > Bad memory? > Overclocking? > Wasn't libz recently updated? (Does gzip use it?) How could it be memory when it's written to disk, extracted, then after a nearly full build read again? Why would it extract completely the first time with no errors? > > -Archie > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > Archie Cobbs * Whistle Communications, Inc. * http://www.whistle.com > Brian Feldman _ __ ___ ___ ___ green@unixhelp.org _ __ ___ | _ ) __| \ http://www.freebsd.org/ _ __ ___ ____ | _ \__ \ |) | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! _ __ ___ ____ _____ |___/___/___/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 13 14:30:55 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA13245 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 14:30:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA13230 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 14:30:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA90024 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 14:29:17 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 14:29:16 -0800 Message-ID: <90017.916266556.1@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Subject: 3.1/4.0 branch date has been moved forward. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----- =_aaaaaaaaaa" Content-Description: Blind Carbon Copy Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG To: undisclosed-recipients:; ------- =_aaaaaaaaaa Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Description: Original Message To: committers@freebsd.org Subject: 3.1/4.0 branch date has been moved forward. Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 14:29:16 -0800 Message-ID: <90017.916266556@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" >From the 15th of January to the 20th of January. Sorry, but we're just a bit delayed on some of our "pre-branch" tasks and I'm also about to leave town for 2 days and the timing just sucks. I know that many folks are eager to start in on 4.0, but an extra 5 days can probably be tolerated without too many cases of spontaneous human combustion, I think. :-) Just FYI, thanks. - Jordan ------- =_aaaaaaaaaa-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 13 14:34:38 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA13758 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 14:34:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from opus.cts.cwu.edu (opus.cts.cwu.edu [198.104.92.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA13749 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 14:34:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from skynyrd@opus.cts.cwu.edu) Received: from localhost (skynyrd@localhost) by opus.cts.cwu.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA08581 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 14:33:19 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 14:33:19 -0800 (PST) From: Chris Timmons Reply-To: Chris Timmons To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: HEADS UP: boot.conf -> loader.rc Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Index: interp.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/boot/common/interp.c,v retrieving revision 1.10 retrieving revision 1.11 diff -r1.10 -r1.11 26c26 < * $Id: interp.c,v 1.10 1999/01/04 18:38:23 peter Exp $ --- > * $Id: interp.c,v 1.11 1999/01/13 21:59:58 abial Exp $ 102c102 < source("/boot/boot.conf"); --- ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 13:59:59 -0800 (PST) From: Andrzej Bialecki To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/boot/common interp.c abial 1999/01/13 13:59:59 PST Modified files: sys/boot/common interp.c Log: Change /boot/boot.conf to /boot/loader.rc - this name reflects what it really is. Agreed upon by: jkh, msmith and many others Revision Changes Path 1.11 +2 -2 src/sys/boot/common/interp.c To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 13 16:14:53 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA26616 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 16:14:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from stade.demon.co.uk (stade.demon.co.uk [158.152.29.164]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA26402 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 16:14:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from aw1@stade.co.uk) Received: (from aw1@localhost) by stade.demon.co.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id GAA40670 for current@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 06:36:11 GMT (envelope-from aw1) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 06:36:10 +0000 From: Adrian Wontroba To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: soft updates, ccd, old drives Message-ID: <19990113063610.B25352@titus.stade.co.uk> Reply-To: aw1@stade.co.uk References: <199807130419.AAA08502@rtfm.ziplink.net> <19980713071609.A15469@stade.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: <19980713071609.A15469@stade.co.uk>; from Adrian Wontroba on Mon, Jul 13, 1998 at 07:16:09AM +0100 Organization: Stade Computers Ltd, UK X-Phone: +(44) 121 681 6677 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jul 13, 1998 at 07:16:09AM +0100, Adrian Wontroba wrote: > The machine has a 2949AU adapter, with a very recent current. With > softupdates enabled everything initially seems fine, but doing anything > slightly heavy causes similar symptoms (forking anything takes an > inordinately long time), with much pounding on one of the discs but > little user program activity. It seems horribly repeatable. I did have > systat/vmstat running for one of these near freezes, and noticed that > freevnodes had a very low value (<10). Six months later (my, doesn't time fly) I tried again, with a reduced value of MAXUSERS (=100) - softupdates now works fine for me .... /dev/da0s2a on / (local, soft-updates, writes: sync 3 async 25945) /dev/da0s2e on /usr (local, soft-updates, writes: sync 6760 async 53354) procfs on /proc (local) /dev/da0s3e on /p1 (local, soft-updates, writes: sync 414 async 185516) mfs:28 on /tmp (asynchronous, local, writes: sync 1203 async 12959) /dev/da2c on /usr/local/newsspool (local, soft-updates, writes: sync 21 async 6138) /dev/da0s1 on /dos (local, noexec, nosuid) /dev/da1s1 on /dosd (local, noexec, nosuid) /dev/da3e on /d3p1 (local, soft-updates, writes: sync 2 async 2017) /dev/da3f on /d3p2 (local, soft-updates, writes: sync 3980 async 310368) /dev/da3g on /d3p3 (local, soft-updates, writes: sync 2 async 2) /dev/da3h on /d3p4 (local, soft-updates, writes: sync 2 async 46) ... and cut my make buildworld time by 25%. -- Adrian Wontroba, Stade Computers Limited. phone: (+44) 121 681 6677 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 13 16:23:55 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA28041 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 16:23:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA28036 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 16:23:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from lot.gsoft.com.au (doconnor@lot.gsoft.com.au [203.38.152.106]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA21375; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 10:52:35 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199901130902.JAA74697@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org> Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 10:53:42 +1030 (CST) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: Brian Somers Subject: Re: ppp exiting term also terminates telnet Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, Leif Neland Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 13-Jan-99 Brian Somers wrote: > Rlogin uses ``~.'' to drop the connection :-) > > If you want to use ppp over an rlogin session, you'll need to double > up on the ``~''s that you want to send to ppp. So here, you ``~~.'' > to back out of a `term' session. Or do.. rlogin -E Or use ssh and do ssh -e none :) --- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 13 16:55:01 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA01295 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 16:55:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from janus.syracuse.net (janus.syracuse.net [205.232.47.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA01267 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 16:55:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from green@unixhelp.org) Received: from localhost (green@localhost) by janus.syracuse.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA27460; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 19:53:52 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 19:53:52 -0500 (EST) From: Brian Feldman X-Sender: green@janus.syracuse.net To: Archie Cobbs cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Weird file corruption? In-Reply-To: <199901130527.VAA10163@bubba.whistle.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Well, after a bit more testing.... I've been doing a couple things: jot 10000000 1 10000000 > j; cp j j2; diff -u j j2 It failed :( But then I changed my DRAM timings to Normal from Turbo and jot 10000000 1 10000000 > j; cp j j2; diff -u j j2 jot 10000000 10000000 1 > j; cp j j2; diff -u j j2 now gives no output (yay)! Think I've found my culprit? Time for some PC100 soon... I think this would also explain the strange not-any-longer-reproducible StarOffice panic (it only occurred twice previously, now doesn't occur). Brian Feldman _ __ ___ ___ ___ green@unixhelp.org _ __ ___ | _ ) __| \ http://www.freebsd.org/ _ __ ___ ____ | _ \__ \ |) | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! _ __ ___ ____ _____ |___/___/___/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 13 16:59:51 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA01624 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 16:59:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from assaris.sics.se (assaris.sics.se [193.10.66.108]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA01619 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 16:59:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from assar@sics.se) Received: (from assar@localhost) by assaris.sics.se (8.9.1/8.7.3) id CAA00670; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 02:00:19 +0100 (CET) To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: kern/9478: support for running a script from kldload Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.68) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Assar Westerlund Date: 14 Jan 1999 02:00:19 +0100 Message-ID: <5l4spuoeho.fsf@assaris.sics.se> Lines: 7 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I've implemented support in kldload for running a script that gets all the IDs allocated by the modules just loaded. This is quite similar to modload's -p and quite useful. Can someone have a look at kern/9478? Thanks. /assar To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 13 17:15:03 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA03936 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 17:15:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from assaris.sics.se (assaris.sics.se [193.10.66.108]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA03916 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 17:15:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from assar@sics.se) Received: (from assar@localhost) by assaris.sics.se (8.9.1/8.7.3) id CAA00805; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 02:15:32 +0100 (CET) To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: issues with building KLDs: dynamic numbers and compilation options Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.68) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Assar Westerlund Date: 14 Jan 1999 02:15:31 +0100 Message-ID: <5l3e5eodsc.fsf@assaris.sics.se> Lines: 32 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi I've found some issues with the current way of building KLDs (and LKMs actually as well) while building the kernel module for Arla , that I'll try to summarize here and give me thoughts on the ways of solving them. 1. It's hard to figure what dynamic numbers (syscall numbers and cdev numbers) your module got assigned and to do something with them. I believe this could be solved with kern/9359 (already closed) and kern/9478 (not yet applied :-). 2. The module has to be compiled with same options as the kernel already has been compiled with and there's no way of finding out what those were. The problem is here mainly with DIAGNOSTIC (and INVARIANTS). If you don't build your module with or without -DDIAGNOSTIC in the same way as the kernel, your loose. The most noticable case is `zfree'. There are of course several options for fixing this: a. Install opt_global.h when installing the kernel b. Make the functions that depend on DIAGNOSTIC and INVARIANTS non-inline. c. Add non-inline versions of the above mentioned functions for modules. I would prefer b) or c) (that would allow using the same KLD module for differently compiled kernels) and would be willing to write the necessary patches. /assar To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 13 17:16:56 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA04118 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 17:16:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.skylink.it (ns.skylink.it [194.177.113.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA04111 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 17:16:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hibma@skylink.it) Received: from henny.plazza.it (va-150.skylink.it [194.177.113.150]) by ns.skylink.it (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA06815 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 02:14:10 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by henny.jrc.it (8.9.1/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA00266; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 22:05:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from hibma@skylink.it) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 22:05:14 +0100 (CET) From: Nick Hibma X-Sender: n_hibma@henny.plazza.it Reply-To: hibma@skylink.it To: "Jason J. Horton" cc: FreeBSD current mailing list Subject: Re: Chuck Badges for computer cases ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > http://www.freebsdmall.com/promotional/ > sold here for US$1.00, not bad > > Promotional doesn't seem like that noticable a section. > Any ideas on how to bring more attention to it? Put it on the second page of the folder for Walnut Creek? Got one today together with a 2.2.8 CD. Nick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 13 17:17:01 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA04131 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 17:17:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.skylink.it (ns.skylink.it [194.177.113.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA04110; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 17:16:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hibma@skylink.it) Received: from henny.plazza.it (va-150.skylink.it [194.177.113.150]) by ns.skylink.it (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA06812; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 02:14:08 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by henny.jrc.it (8.9.1/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA00261; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 22:04:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from hibma@skylink.it) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 22:04:03 +0100 (CET) From: Nick Hibma X-Sender: n_hibma@henny.plazza.it Reply-To: hibma@skylink.it To: Gary Palmer cc: FreeBSD current mailing list Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/netinet ip_input.c In-Reply-To: <50518.916228806@gjp.erols.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Please only enable -Werror for i386 unless you are planning on doing the same > sweep for the AXP. Also, I think most developers will kill you. Slowly :) -Wall? Nick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 13 17:28:41 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA05211 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 17:28:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA05205 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 17:28:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ambrisko@whistle.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by alpo.whistle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA29019 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 17:23:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from crab.whistle.com(207.76.205.112), claiming to be "whistle.com" via SMTP by alpo.whistle.com, id smtpdU29013; Thu Jan 14 01:23:01 1999 Received: (from ambrisko@localhost) by whistle.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA35196 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 17:22:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ambrisko) From: Doug Ambrisko Message-Id: <199901140122.RAA35196@whistle.com> Subject: Re: netboot & ELF kernels In-Reply-To: <199901132206.AAA00700@ceia.nordier.com> from Robert Nordier at "Jan 14, 99 00:06:42 am" To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 17:22:09 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL29 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Robert Nordier writes: | generally. But the ports issue is really much simpler -- does it | work? is it useful? (obviously yes) -- so there's really not any | reason to delay committing it. As the ports collection tends to | have its own special set of rules and conventions, the quickest | route may be to submit the usual PR, allowing any of the ports | specialist committers to check and commit the files. Done PR -> ports/9480 Doug A. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 13 17:36:12 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA06299 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 17:36:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gjp.erols.com (alex-va-n008c079.moon.jic.com [206.156.18.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA06289 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 17:36:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gjp@gjp.erols.com) Received: from gjp.erols.com (localhost.erols.com [127.0.0.1]) by gjp.erols.com (8.9.1/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA60873; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 20:34:52 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gjp@gjp.erols.com) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: hibma@skylink.it cc: FreeBSD current mailing list From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/netinet ip_input.c In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 13 Jan 1999 22:04:03 +0100." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 20:34:52 -0500 Message-ID: <60869.916277692@gjp.erols.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Nick Hibma wrote in message ID : > > Please only enable -Werror for i386 unless you are planning on doing the > > same sweep for the AXP. Also, I think most developers will kill you. > > Slowly :) > > -Wall? Only if you are willing to fix the messages produced. Preferably on both architectures. Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 13 17:38:00 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA06435 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 17:38:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from unix.tfs.net (as1-p165.tfs.net [139.146.210.165]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA06426; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 17:37:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jbryant@unix.tfs.net) Received: (from jbryant@localhost) by unix.tfs.net (8.9.1/8.8.5) id TAA35796; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 19:36:47 -0600 (CST) From: Jim Bryant Message-Id: <199901140136.TAA35796@unix.tfs.net> Subject: Forward all spam to UCE@FTC.GOV To: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 19:36:35 -0600 (CST) Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-to: jbryant@unix.tfs.net X-Windows: R00LZ!@# MS-Winbl0wz DR00LZ!@# X-files: The truth is that the X-Files is fiction X-Republican: The best kind!!! X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT #46: Sun Dec 6 03:10:25 CST 1998 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This announcement is located on the Federal Trade Commission's complaint form page http://www.ftc.gov/ftc/complaint.htm ------------------ If you would like to forward unsolicited commercial e-mail (spam) to the Commission, please send it directly to UCE@FTC.GOV without using this form. ------------------ Could this be added to sendmail.cf somehow by default? maybe as a comment? Maybe as some kind of autoforwarder in spam filtering? jim -- All opinions expressed are mine, if you | "I will not be pushed, stamped, think otherwise, then go jump into turbid | briefed, debriefed, indexed, or radioactive waters and yell WAHOO !!! | numbered!" - #1, "The Prisoner" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Inet: jbryant@tfs.net AX.25: kc5vdj@wv0t.#neks.ks.usa.noam grid: EM28pw voice: KC5VDJ - 6 & 2 Meters AM/FM/SSB, 70cm FM. http://www.tfs.net/~jbryant ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ HF/6M/2M: IC-706-MkII, 2M: HTX-212, 2M: HTX-202, 70cm: HTX-404, Packet: KPC-3+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 13 18:34:38 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA01539 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 18:34:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fledge.watson.org (FLEDGE.RES.CMU.EDU [128.2.93.229]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA01530 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 18:34:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from robert@cyrus.watson.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (robert@fledge.pr.watson.org [192.0.2.3]) by fledge.watson.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA17764 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 21:00:18 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 21:00:17 -0500 (EST) From: Robert Watson X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org Reply-To: Robert Watson To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: world compile break, -current (extremely recent), krbIV support Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This seems only to affect the krbIV stuff in -world. cd /usr/src/kerberosIV/lib/libacl;/usr/obj/elf/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin/make beforeinstall make: don't know how to make /usr/src/kerberosIV/lib/libacl/../../../crypto/kerberosIV/lib/acl/acl.h. Stop *** Error code 2 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. Robert N Watson robert@fledge.watson.org http://www.watson.org/~robert/ PGP key fingerprint: 03 01 DD 8E 15 67 48 73 25 6D 10 FC EC 68 C1 1C Carnegie Mellon University http://www.cmu.edu/ TIS Labs at Network Associates, Inc. http://www.tis.com/ SafePort Network Services http://www.safeport.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 13 18:56:55 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA04634 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 18:56:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fep2-orange.clear.net.nz (fep2-orange.clear.net.nz [203.97.32.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA04627; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 18:56:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jabley@buddha.clear.net.nz) Received: from buddha.clear.net.nz (buddha.clear.net.nz [192.168.24.106]) by fep2-orange.clear.net.nz (1.5/1.9) with ESMTP id PAA09081; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 15:55:36 +1300 (NZDT) Received: (from jabley@localhost) by buddha.clear.net.nz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA12813; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 15:55:29 +1300 (NZDT) (envelope-from jabley) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 15:55:29 +1300 From: Joe Abley To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, obrien@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: jabley@clear.co.nz Subject: Re: world compile break, -current (extremely recent), amd support Message-ID: <19990114155529.A12763@clear.co.nz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On an extremely recent current, make buildworld barfs on contrib/amd/libamu/mount_fs.c: /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/libamu/../../../contrib/amd/libamu/mount_fs.c: In function `compute_nfs_args': /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/libamu/../../../contrib/amd/libamu/mount_fs.c:338: syntax error before `fh3' /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/libamu/../../../contrib/amd/libamu/mount_fs.c:349: `fh3' u ndeclared (first use this function) /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/libamu/../../../contrib/amd/libamu/mount_fs.c:349: (Each u ndeclared identifier is reported only once /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/libamu/../../../contrib/amd/libamu/mount_fs.c:349: for eac h function it appears in.) /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/libamu/../../../contrib/amd/libamu/mount_fs.c:349: `nfs_fh 3' undeclared (first use this function) *** Error code 1 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error I noticed a lot of amd patches from obrien going coming in earlier today when I cvsupped, but subsequent cvsups haven't yielded anything new so I assume I'm not in some no-mans-land between patches. Just FYI. Joe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 13 19:08:50 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA06287 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 19:08:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.tar.com (ns.tar.com [204.95.187.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA06156; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 19:08:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dick@ns.tar.com) Received: (from dick@localhost) by ns.tar.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA11089; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 20:16:17 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dick) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 20:16:17 -0600 From: "Richard Seaman, Jr." To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Current broken in usr.sbin/amd/libamu Message-ID: <19990113201617.C47922@tar.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG cc -O -pipe -DCOMPAT_LINUX_THREADS -DVM_STACK -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/libamu/../../../contrib/amd/libamu -I. -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/libamu -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/libamu/../include -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/libamu/../../../contrib/amd/include -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/libamu/../../../contrib/amd -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I/usr/obj/elf/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/libamu/../../../contrib/amd/libamu/hasmntopt.c -o hasmntopt.o cc -O -pipe -DCOMPAT_LINUX_THREADS -DVM_STACK -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/libamu/../../../contrib/amd/libamu -I. -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/libamu -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/libamu/../include -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/libamu/../../../contrib/amd/include -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/libamu/../../../contrib/amd -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I/usr/obj/elf/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/libamu/../../../contrib/amd/libamu/misc_rpc.c -o misc_rpc.o cc -O -pipe -DCOMPAT_LINUX_THREADS -DVM_STACK -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/libamu/../../../contrib/amd/libamu -I. -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/libamu -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/libamu/../include -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/libamu/../../../contrib/amd/include -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/libamu/../../../contrib/amd -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I/usr/obj/elf/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/libamu/../../../contrib/amd/libamu/mount_fs.c -o mount_fs.o /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/libamu/../../../contrib/amd/libamu/mount_fs.c: In function `compute_nfs_args': /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/libamu/../../../contrib/amd/libamu/mount_fs.c:338: syntax error before `fh3' /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/libamu/../../../contrib/amd/libamu/mount_fs.c:349: `fh3' undeclared (first use this function) /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/libamu/../../../contrib/amd/libamu/mount_fs.c:349: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/libamu/../../../contrib/amd/libamu/mount_fs.c:349: for each function it appears in.) /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/libamu/../../../contrib/amd/libamu/mount_fs.c:349: `nfs_fh3' undeclared (first use this function) *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. -- Richard Seamman, Jr. email: dick@tar.com 5182 N. Maple Lane phone: 414-367-5450 Chenequa WI 53058 fax: 414-367-5852 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 13 20:14:19 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA12707 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 20:14:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jli.com (jli.com [199.2.111.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA12702 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 20:14:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from trost@cloud.rain.com) Received: (qmail 15917 invoked by uid 4); 14 Jan 1999 04:13:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 3011 invoked from network); 14 Jan 1999 04:07:29 -0000 Received: from localhost.cloud.rain.com (HELO cloud.rain.com) (127.0.0.1) by localhost.cloud.rain.com with SMTP; 14 Jan 1999 04:07:29 -0000 To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: APM power-off code References: <199901140334.TAA03147@dingo.cdrom.com> In-reply-to: Your message of Wed, 13 Jan 1999 19:34:25 PST. <199901140334.TAA03147@dingo.cdrom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <3007.916286848.1@cloud.rain.com> Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 20:07:29 -0800 Message-ID: <3008.916286849@cloud.rain.com> From: Bill Trost Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike Smith writes: > I just checked the man page for 2.2.8-RELEASE and it doesn't list a -p > flag for shutdown. Is this just the PAO version or has it been rolled into > the mainstream FreeBSD code? It's original code in 3.0; in 2.2.8 if APM is active, 'halt' should power off. In PAO it is (correctly (-: ) called "shutdown -x", at least back when I was using it. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 13 20:19:50 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA12935 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 20:19:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA12930 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 20:19:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA03365; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 20:15:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199901140415.UAA03365@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Bill Trost cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: APM power-off code In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 13 Jan 1999 20:07:29 PST." <3008.916286849@cloud.rain.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 20:15:08 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Mike Smith writes: > > I just checked the man page for 2.2.8-RELEASE and it doesn't list a -p > > flag for shutdown. Is this just the PAO version or has it been rolled into > > the mainstream FreeBSD code? > > It's original code in 3.0; in 2.2.8 if APM is active, 'halt' should > power off. > > In PAO it is (correctly (-: ) called "shutdown -x", at least back when I > was using it. We discussed this recently; anyone that wants '-x' is welcome to peruse the list archives. In summary - it's -p and staying that way. 8) -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 13 20:29:16 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA13604 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 20:29:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtpott1.nortel.ca (smtpott1.nortel.ca [192.58.194.78]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA13599 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 20:29:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from atrens@nortelnetworks.com) Received: from zcars01t by smtpott1; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 23:27:51 -0500 Received: from wmerh01z.ca.nortel.com by zcars01t; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 23:27:09 -0500 Received: from hcarp00g.ca.nortel.com (atrens@hcarp00g.ca.nortel.com@wmerh01z) by wmerh01z.ca.nortel.com with ESMTP (8.7.1/8.7.1) id XAA04149; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 23:27:08 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 23:36:13 -0500 (EST) From: "Andrew Atrens" Reply-To: "Andrew Atrens" To: current@FreeBSD.ORG cc: lcremean@tidalwave.net Subject: testers wanted: ide_pci.c bugster In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi All, Recall that around the middle of December a patch to pci_ide.c was committed which I suspected has been hosing my system. Okay, so I've looked into the usage of this, and I'm convinced the patch is _wrong_. For those of you experiencing PCI IDE grief, try _backing out_ this change ... In ide_pci.c: 1452 /* 1453 * Return a cookie if we can do DMA on the specified (iobase_wd, unit). 1454 */ 1455 static void * 1456 ide_pci_candma(int iobase_wd, int unit) 1457 { 1458 struct ide_pci_cookie *cp; 1459 1460 cp = softc.cookies.lh_first; 1461 while(cp) { 1462 <<*OLD*<< if (cp->ctlr == unit && 1462 >>*NEW*<< if (cp->unit == unit && 1463 ((iobase_wd == 0) || (cp->iobase_wd==iobase_wd))) 1464 break; 1465 cp = cp->le.le_next; 1466 } 1467 1468 return cp; 1469 } ide_pci_candma() is a registered callback function used in wd.c in the following way: 327: if (wddma[interface].wdd_candma) { 328: du->dk_dmacookie = 329: wddma[interface].wdd_candma(dvp->id_iobase,du->dk_ctrlr); Notice the second argument is a controller _not_ a drive. Therefore the comparison between cp->ctlr == du->dk_ctrlr was correct, and should not have been changed to cp->unit == du->dk_ctrlr. Cheers, Andrew. -- +----------------------------------------------------+ = Andrew Atrens - Nortel Networks (atrens@nortel.ca) = = P.O. Box 3511, Station C Ottawa, Canada = = = = All opinions expressed are mine, not Nortel's. = +----------------------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 13 21:47:44 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA20596 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 21:47:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtpott1.nortel.ca (smtpott1.nortel.ca [192.58.194.78]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA20591 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 21:47:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from atrens@nortelnetworks.com) Received: from zcars01t by smtpott1; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 00:46:29 -0500 Received: from wmerh01z.ca.nortel.com by zcars01t; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 00:45:29 -0500 Received: from hcarp00g.ca.nortel.com (atrens@hcarp00g.ca.nortel.com@wmerh01z) by wmerh01z.ca.nortel.com with ESMTP (8.7.1/8.7.1) id AAA04391; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 00:45:29 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 00:54:33 -0500 (EST) From: "Andrew Atrens" Reply-To: "Andrew Atrens" To: Parag Patel cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: potential ide_pci.c bugster In-Reply-To: <199901131948.LAA79529@pinhead.parag.codegen.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="==_Exmh_-2445626140" Content-ID: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --==_Exmh_-2445626140 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET="US-ASCII" Content-ID: On Wed, 13 Jan 1999, Parag Patel wrote: > I had found and fixed one major problem with the current IDE code. The > problem is that the pci_ide_candma() routine needs an additional > argument to correctly identify the drive *and* controller that can > handle DMA. I suspect this may also be causing trouble with other > drives and controllers. Hmm. Though I agree that pci_ide_candma() in its current state is broken, I'm not convinced that it is the intention of this function to determine whether the drive can do DMA, therefore a third argument (drive unit) is _not required_. Here's a relevant passage from wd.c: 1893 * check drive's DMA capability 1894 */ 1895 if (wddma[du->dk_interface].wdd_candma) { 1896 du->dk_dmacookie = wddma[du->dk_interface].wdd_candma(du->dk_port, du->dk_ctrlr); 1897 /* does user want this? */ 1898 if ((du->cfg_flags & WDOPT_DMA) && 1899 /* have we got a DMA controller? */ 1900 du->dk_dmacookie && 1901 /* can said drive do DMA? */ 1902 wddma[du->dk_interface].wdd_dmainit(du->dk_dmacookie, wp, wdsetmode, du)) { 1903 du->dk_flags |= DKFL_USEDMA; 1904 } 1905 } else { 1906 du->dk_dmacookie = NULL; 1907 } If you believe the comments, then the call to _candma() on line 1896 ascertains whether or not the _controller_ is capable of DMA. Then, on line 1902 a call to _dmainit() actually establishes whether the _drive_ can handle DMA. > I hope this is of some help. Yes, thank you. :) Cheers, Andrew. -- +----------------------------------------------------+ = Andrew Atrens - Nortel Networks (atrens@nortel.ca) = = P.O. Box 3511, Station C Ottawa, Canada = = = = All opinions expressed are mine, not Nortel's. = +----------------------------------------------------+ --==_Exmh_-2445626140 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; NAME="ide-diffs"; CHARSET="us-ascii" Content-ID: Content-Description: ide-diffs Content-Disposition: ATTACHMENT; FILENAME=ide-diffs Index: pci/ide_pci.c =================================================================== RCS file: /src/freebsd/src/sys/pci/ide_pci.c,v retrieving revision 1.23 diff -c -r1.23 ide_pci.c *** ide_pci.c 1999/01/13 04:40:50 1.23 --- ide_pci.c 1999/01/13 18:59:30 *************** *** 61,66 **** --- 61,67 ---- #endif #define PROMISE_ULTRA33 0x4d33105a + #define CMD_PCI646U2_ID 0x06461095 struct ide_pci_cookie; /* structs vendor_fns, ide_pci_cookie are recursive */ *************** *** 159,165 **** static void ide_pci_attach(pcici_t tag, int unit); ! static void *ide_pci_candma(int, int); static int ide_pci_dmainit(void *, struct wdparams *, int (*)(int, void *), --- 160,166 ---- static void ide_pci_attach(pcici_t tag, int unit); ! static void *ide_pci_candma(int, int, int); static int ide_pci_dmainit(void *, struct wdparams *, int (*)(int, void *), *************** *** 723,728 **** --- 724,818 ---- promise_status }; + static void + cmd646_status(struct ide_pci_cookie *cookie) + { + /*int iobase_bm = cookie->iobase_bm;*/ + pcici_t tag = cookie->tag; + int i; + + printf("cmd646_status: %d:%d register dump:\n", + cookie->ctlr, cookie->unit); + + for (i = 0; i < 0x80; i += 16) + { + printf(" %2x:%8lx %8lx %8lx %8lx\n", + i, pci_conf_read(tag, i), pci_conf_read(tag, i + 4), + pci_conf_read(tag, i + 8), pci_conf_read(tag, i + 12)); + } + } + + static int + cmd646_dmainit(struct ide_pci_cookie *cookie, + struct wdparams *wp, + int(*wdcmd)(int, void *), + void *wdinfo) + { + int iobase_bm = cookie->iobase_bm; + /*int ctlr = cookie->ctlr;*/ + int unit = cookie->unit; + int mrdmode, bmista, udidetcr, r; + #define BMRDMODE 1 + #define BUDIDETCR 3 + + if (udma_mode(wp) >= 2) + { + mrdmode = inb(iobase_bm + BMRDMODE); + udidetcr = inb(iobase_bm + BUDIDETCR); + bmista = inb(iobase_bm + BMISTA_PORT); + + outb(iobase_bm + BMRDMODE, mrdmode | 0x08C); + outb(iobase_bm + BUDIDETCR, udidetcr | (unit ? 0x2 : 0x1)); + outb(iobase_bm + BMISTA_PORT, + bmista | (unit ? BMISTA_DMA1CAP : BMISTA_DMA0CAP) | + BMISTA_DMA_ERROR); + + if (bootverbose) + cmd646_status(cookie); + + /* set the drive to Ultra-DMA mode */ + r = wdcmd(WDDMA_UDMA2, wdinfo); + + if (!r) + { + printf("cmd646_dmainit: setting DMA mode failed\n"); + return 0; + } + + return 1; + } + + if (pio_mode(wp) >= 4 && mwdma_mode(wp) >= 2) + { + bmista = inb(iobase_bm + BMISTA_PORT); + outb(iobase_bm + BMISTA_PORT, + bmista | (unit ? BMISTA_DMA1CAP : BMISTA_DMA0CAP) | + BMISTA_DMA_ERROR); + + if (bootverbose) + cmd646_status(cookie); + + /* set the drive to DMA mode */ + r = wdcmd(WDDMA_MDMA2, wdinfo); + + if (!r) + { + printf("cmd646_dmainit: setting DMA mode failed\n"); + return 0; + } + + return 1; + } + + return 0; + } + + static struct vendor_fns vs_cmd646 = + { + cmd646_dmainit, + cmd646_status + }; + /* Intel PIIX, PIIX3, and PIIX4 IDE controller subfunctions */ static void intel_piix_dump_drive(char *ctlr, *************** *** 1170,1175 **** --- 1260,1267 ---- return ("Cyrix 5530 Bus-master IDE controller"); if (type == 0x522910b9) return ("Acer Aladdin IV/V (M5229) Bus-master IDE controller"); + if (type == CMD_PCI646U2_ID) + return ("CMD PCI646U2 Ultra/33 IDE controller"); if (data & 0x8000) return ("PCI IDE controller (busmaster capable)"); #ifndef CMD640 *************** *** 1201,1207 **** /* set up vendor-specific stuff */ type = pci_conf_read(tag, PCI_ID_REG); ! if (type != PROMISE_ULTRA33) { /* is it busmaster capable? bail if not */ class = pci_conf_read(tag, PCI_CLASS_REG); if (!(class & 0x8000)) { --- 1293,1299 ---- /* set up vendor-specific stuff */ type = pci_conf_read(tag, PCI_ID_REG); ! if (type != PROMISE_ULTRA33 && type != CMD_PCI646U2_ID) { /* is it busmaster capable? bail if not */ class = pci_conf_read(tag, PCI_CLASS_REG); if (!(class & 0x8000)) { *************** *** 1237,1252 **** printf("cyrix 5530\n"); vp = &vs_cyrix_5530; break; case 0x522910B9: /* Acer Aladdin IV/V (M5229) */ vp = &vs_acer; break; default: /* everybody else */ vp = &vs_generic; break; } ! if (type != PROMISE_ULTRA33) { if ((class & 0x100) == 0) { iobase_wd_1 = IO_WD1; altiobase_wd_1 = iobase_wd_1 + wd_altsts; --- 1329,1351 ---- printf("cyrix 5530\n"); vp = &vs_cyrix_5530; break; + case 0x522910B9: /* Acer Aladdin IV/V (M5229) */ vp = &vs_acer; break; + + case CMD_PCI646U2_ID: + /* CMD PCI646U2-based controllers */ + vp = &vs_cmd646; + break; + default: /* everybody else */ vp = &vs_generic; break; } ! if (type != PROMISE_ULTRA33 && type != CMD_PCI646U2_ID) { if ((class & 0x100) == 0) { iobase_wd_1 = IO_WD1; altiobase_wd_1 = iobase_wd_1 + wd_altsts; *************** *** 1321,1327 **** printf(" %d", dvup->id_unit); dvup++; ! pci_map_int(tag, wdintr, (void *) dvp->id_unit, &bio_imask); if (dvup->id_id == 0) break; --- 1420,1426 ---- printf(" %d", dvup->id_unit); dvup++; ! pci_map_int(tag, (pci_inthand_t *)wdintr, (void *) dvp->id_unit, &bio_imask); if (dvup->id_id == 0) break; *************** *** 1336,1342 **** } if (dvup->id_unit == biotabunit + 2) { ! pci_map_int(tag, wdintr, (void *) ((int) dvp->id_unit + 1), &bio_imask); dvup->id_iobase = dvp1->id_iobase; printf(" %d", dvup->id_unit); dvup++; --- 1435,1441 ---- } if (dvup->id_unit == biotabunit + 2) { ! pci_map_int(tag, (pci_inthand_t *)wdintr, (void *) ((int) dvp->id_unit + 1), &bio_imask); dvup->id_iobase = dvp1->id_iobase; printf(" %d", dvup->id_unit); dvup++; *************** *** 1346,1352 **** } if (dvup->id_unit == biotabunit + 3) { ! pci_map_int(tag, wdintr, (void *) ((int) dvp->id_unit + 1), &bio_imask); dvup->id_iobase = dvp1->id_iobase; printf(" %d", dvup->id_unit); } --- 1445,1451 ---- } if (dvup->id_unit == biotabunit + 3) { ! pci_map_int(tag, (pci_inthand_t *)wdintr, (void *) ((int) dvp->id_unit + 1), &bio_imask); dvup->id_iobase = dvp1->id_iobase; printf(" %d", dvup->id_unit); } *************** *** 1453,1465 **** * Return a cookie if we can do DMA on the specified (iobase_wd, unit). */ static void * ! ide_pci_candma(int iobase_wd, int unit) { struct ide_pci_cookie *cp; cp = softc.cookies.lh_first; while(cp) { ! if (cp->unit == unit && ((iobase_wd == 0) || (cp->iobase_wd == iobase_wd))) break; cp = cp->le.le_next; --- 1552,1564 ---- * Return a cookie if we can do DMA on the specified (iobase_wd, unit). */ static void * ! ide_pci_candma(int iobase_wd, int ctlr, int unit) { struct ide_pci_cookie *cp; cp = softc.cookies.lh_first; while(cp) { ! if (cp->ctlr == ctlr && cp->unit == unit && ((iobase_wd == 0) || (cp->iobase_wd == iobase_wd))) break; cp = cp->le.le_next; *************** *** 1483,1491 **** /* * If the controller status indicates that DMA is configured already, * we flounce happily away */ ! if (inb(cp->iobase_bm + BMISTA_PORT) & ! ((cp->unit == 0) ? BMISTA_DMA0CAP : BMISTA_DMA1CAP)) return 1; /* We take a stab at it with device-dependent code */ --- 1582,1592 ---- /* * If the controller status indicates that DMA is configured already, * we flounce happily away + * [CMD 646 part should always be initialized] */ ! if (cp->type != CMD_PCI646U2_ID && ! inb(cp->iobase_bm + BMISTA_PORT) & ! ((cp->unit == 0) ? BMISTA_DMA0CAP : BMISTA_DMA1CAP)) return 1; /* We take a stab at it with device-dependent code */ Index: pci/wdc_p.c =================================================================== RCS file: /src/freebsd/src/sys/pci/wdc_p.c,v retrieving revision 1.4 diff -c -r1.4 wdc_p.c *** wdc_p.c 1998/12/14 06:32:57 1.4 --- wdc_p.c 1998/12/14 11:17:24 *************** *** 40,45 **** --- 40,46 ---- */ #define CMD640B_PCI_ID 0x06401095 + #define CMD_PCI646U2_ID 0x06461095 static const char* wdc_pci_probe __P((pcici_t tag, pcidi_t type)); static void wdc_pci_attach __P((pcici_t config_id, int unit)); *************** *** 62,67 **** --- 63,71 ---- if (type == CMD640B_PCI_ID) return "CMD 640B IDE"; + if (type == CMD_PCI646U2_ID) + return "CMD 646U2 IDE"; + return NULL; } *************** *** 69,74 **** --- 73,80 ---- wdc_pci_attach(pcici_t config_id, int unit) { if (pci_conf_read(config_id, PCI_ID_REG) == CMD640B_PCI_ID) + wdc_pci(Q_CMD640B); + if (pci_conf_read(config_id, PCI_ID_REG) == CMD_PCI646U2_ID) wdc_pci(Q_CMD640B); } Index: i386/isa/wd.c =================================================================== RCS file: /src/freebsd/src/sys/i386/isa/wd.c,v retrieving revision 1.184 diff -c -r1.184 wd.c *** wd.c 1999/01/12 01:04:38 1.184 --- wd.c 1999/01/12 11:21:17 *************** *** 315,321 **** #if !defined(DISABLE_PCI_IDE) && (NPCI > 0) #ifdef ALI_V if ((wddma[interface].wdd_candma) && ! ((du->dk_dmacookie = wddma[interface].wdd_candma(dvp->id_iobase,du->dk_ctrlr)) != NULL)) { du->dk_port = dvp->id_iobase; du->dk_altport = wddma[interface].wdd_altiobase(du->dk_dmacookie); --- 315,321 ---- #if !defined(DISABLE_PCI_IDE) && (NPCI > 0) #ifdef ALI_V if ((wddma[interface].wdd_candma) && ! ((du->dk_dmacookie = wddma[interface].wdd_candma(dvp->id_iobase,du->dk_ctrlr, unit)) != NULL)) { du->dk_port = dvp->id_iobase; du->dk_altport = wddma[interface].wdd_altiobase(du->dk_dmacookie); *************** *** 325,331 **** } #endif if (wddma[interface].wdd_candma) { ! du->dk_dmacookie = wddma[interface].wdd_candma(dvp->id_iobase,du->dk_ctrlr); du->dk_port = dvp->id_iobase; du->dk_altport = wddma[interface].wdd_altiobase(du->dk_dmacookie); } else { --- 325,331 ---- } #endif if (wddma[interface].wdd_candma) { ! du->dk_dmacookie = wddma[interface].wdd_candma(dvp->id_iobase,du->dk_ctrlr, unit); du->dk_port = dvp->id_iobase; du->dk_altport = wddma[interface].wdd_altiobase(du->dk_dmacookie); } else { *************** *** 1098,1104 **** du = wddrives[dkunit(bp->b_dev)]; /* finish off DMA */ ! if (du->dk_flags & (DKFL_DMA|DKFL_USEDMA)) { /* XXX SMP boxes sometimes generate an early intr. Why? */ if ((wddma[du->dk_interface].wdd_dmastatus(du->dk_dmacookie) & WDDS_INTERRUPT) != 0) --- 1098,1104 ---- du = wddrives[dkunit(bp->b_dev)]; /* finish off DMA */ ! if ((du->dk_flags & (DKFL_DMA|DKFL_USEDMA)) == (DKFL_DMA|DKFL_USEDMA)) { /* XXX SMP boxes sometimes generate an early intr. Why? */ if ((wddma[du->dk_interface].wdd_dmastatus(du->dk_dmacookie) & WDDS_INTERRUPT) != 0) *************** *** 1893,1899 **** * check drive's DMA capability */ if (wddma[du->dk_interface].wdd_candma) { ! du->dk_dmacookie = wddma[du->dk_interface].wdd_candma(du->dk_port, du->dk_ctrlr); /* does user want this? */ if ((du->cfg_flags & WDOPT_DMA) && /* have we got a DMA controller? */ --- 1893,1899 ---- * check drive's DMA capability */ if (wddma[du->dk_interface].wdd_candma) { ! du->dk_dmacookie = wddma[du->dk_interface].wdd_candma(du->dk_port, du->dk_ctrlr, du->dk_unit); /* does user want this? */ if ((du->cfg_flags & WDOPT_DMA) && /* have we got a DMA controller? */ Index: i386/isa/wdreg.h =================================================================== RCS file: /src/freebsd/src/sys/i386/isa/wdreg.h,v retrieving revision 1.24 diff -c -r1.24 wdreg.h *** wdreg.h 1999/01/12 01:04:38 1.24 --- wdreg.h 1999/01/12 11:21:17 *************** *** 262,268 **** */ struct wddma { void *(*wdd_candma) /* returns a cookie if PCI */ ! __P((int ctlr, int drive)); int (*wdd_dmaverify) /* verify that request is DMA-able */ __P((void *cookie, char *vaddr, u_long len, int direction)); int (*wdd_dmaprep) /* prepare DMA hardware */ --- 262,268 ---- */ struct wddma { void *(*wdd_candma) /* returns a cookie if PCI */ ! __P((int iobase, int ctlr, int drive)); int (*wdd_dmaverify) /* verify that request is DMA-able */ __P((void *cookie, char *vaddr, u_long len, int direction)); int (*wdd_dmaprep) /* prepare DMA hardware */ --==_Exmh_-2445626140-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 13 21:57:34 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA22172 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 21:57:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA22167 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 21:57:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id EAA28535; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 04:51:58 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199901140351.EAA28535@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: netboot & ELF kernels To: ambrisko@whistle.com (Doug Ambrisko) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 04:51:58 +0100 (MET) Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199901131708.JAA29927@whistle.com> from "Doug Ambrisko" at Jan 13, 99 09:08:24 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > | > | I've been sitting on this for some time (sorry, Doug), but will > | try to finish looking at it in the next few days. > A few comments on netboot. Recently, erich@lodgenet.com contributed netboot support for "fxp" cards. The msg was posted on some freebsd list about 1 month ago, and the file to look for is "nbfxp.tgz". Again, better than nothing, although it does not support ELF i think. > This package has a lot of nice features: > - Select different kernels to boot (including Dos images) > - Pass in FreeBSD boot flags via bootp request > - uses tftp for loading kernel (some may argue this is not a nice > feature but I like it for a bunch of reasons ... no need for > nfs if kernel has a mfs file system) in fact, FreeBSD's netboot uses NFS for loading the kernel, but you don't need it in the loaded kernel either. The difference in netboot's code is minimal (just a few calls to get the appropriate credentials to access the file, then the routines to download the pkts are very similar and already present in the freebsd's netboot anyways. Having tried both the tftp and nfs method, i prefer the latter a lot because it means i don't have to cnfigure another service (TFTP) on the server: with the current FreeBSD's netboot, you can supply all parameters with bootp (which you'd need anyways -- or replace it with DHCP i guess) and download the kernel with NFS (which your server probably already has). cheers luigi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 13 22:25:38 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA25820 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 22:25:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from emu.sourcee.com (emu.sourcee.com [205.181.251.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA25811; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 22:25:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nrice@emu.sourcee.com) Received: (from nrice@localhost) by emu.sourcee.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id BAA00497; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 01:24:19 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 01:24:19 -0500 From: "Norman C. Rice" To: "Richard Seaman, Jr." Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, obrien@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Current broken in usr.sbin/amd/libamu Message-ID: <19990114012419.A119@emu.sourcee.com> References: <19990113201617.C47922@tar.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: <19990113201617.C47922@tar.com>; from Richard Seaman, Jr. on Wed, Jan 13, 1999 at 08:16:17PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG FWIW, I found that by replacing the two instances of `am_nfs_fh3' with `nfs_fh3_freebsd3' in /usr/src/contrib/amd/libamu/mount_fs.c allows everything to compile and appear to work -- YMMV. It appears that this replacement should happen through some m4 processing according to comments in /usr/src/contrib/amd/conf/nfs_prot/nfs_prot_freebsd3.h: /* * as of 3.0-RELEASE the nfs_fh3 that is defined in the system headers * (or the one generated by rpcgen) lacks the proper full definition, * listed below. A special macro (aux/macros/struct_nfs_fh3.m4) searches * for this special name before other names. */ struct nfs_fh3_freebsd3 { u_int fh3_length; union nfs_fh3_u { struct nfs_fh3_i { fhandle_t fh3_i; } nfs_fh3_i; char data[NFS3_FHSIZE]; } fh3_u; }; typedef struct nfs_fh3_freebsd3 nfs_fh3_freebsd3; -- Regards, Norman C. Rice, Jr. On Wed, Jan 13, 1999 at 08:16:17PM -0600, Richard Seaman, Jr. wrote: > cc -O -pipe -DCOMPAT_LINUX_THREADS -DVM_STACK -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/libamu/../../../contrib/amd/libamu -I. -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/libamu -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/libamu/../include -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/libamu/../../../contrib/amd/include -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/libamu/../../../contrib/amd -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I/usr/obj/elf/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/libamu/../../../contrib/amd/libamu/hasmntopt.c -o hasmntopt.o > cc -O -pipe -DCOMPAT_LINUX_THREADS -DVM_STACK -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/libamu/../../../contrib/amd/libamu -I. -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/libamu -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/libamu/../include -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/libamu/../../../contrib/amd/include -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/libamu/../../../contrib/amd -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I/usr/obj/elf/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/libamu/../../../contrib/amd/libamu/misc_rpc.c -o misc_rpc.o > cc -O -pipe -DCOMPAT_LINUX_THREADS -DVM_STACK -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/libamu/../../../contrib/amd/libamu -I. -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/libamu -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/libamu/../include -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/libamu/../../../contrib/amd/include -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/libamu/../../../contrib/amd -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I/usr/obj/elf/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/libamu/../../../contrib/amd/libamu/mount_fs.c -o mount_fs.o > /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/libamu/../../../contrib/amd/libamu/mount_fs.c: In function `compute_nfs_args': > /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/libamu/../../../contrib/amd/libamu/mount_fs.c:338: syntax error before `fh3' > /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/libamu/../../../contrib/amd/libamu/mount_fs.c:349: `fh3' undeclared (first use this function) > /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/libamu/../../../contrib/amd/libamu/mount_fs.c:349: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once > /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/libamu/../../../contrib/amd/libamu/mount_fs.c:349: for each function it appears in.) > /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/libamu/../../../contrib/amd/libamu/mount_fs.c:349: `nfs_fh3' undeclared (first use this function) > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > > > -- > Richard Seamman, Jr. email: dick@tar.com > 5182 N. Maple Lane phone: 414-367-5450 > Chenequa WI 53058 fax: 414-367-5852 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 13 23:57:34 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA04708 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 23:57:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pooh.elsevier.nl (pooh.elsevier.nl [145.36.9.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA04703 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 23:57:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from steveo@iol.ie) Received: from pooh.elsevier.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pooh.elsevier.nl (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA00610; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 08:55:03 GMT (envelope-from steveo@iol.ie) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199901130813.RAA28346@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 08:55:02 -0000 (GMT) From: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" To: Kazutaka YOKOTA Subject: Re: Sudden mouse death? Cc: Christopher Masto , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 13-Jan-99 Kazutaka YOKOTA wrote: > > Do you have the apm driver enabled? If so please try the following > options in your kernel config file. > > options PSM_HOOKAPM > options PSM_RESETAFTERSUSPEND With both of these on I've had another mouse lockup. I also had PSM_DEBUG=2 set so I managed to find out that the reset was getting a PSM_RESEND return status from the mouse. What can I do next. BTW: The PSM options seem to have improved the situation I've had a few short term mouse freezes from which the mouse has recovered silently. ---------------------------------- E-Mail: Steve O'Hara-Smith Date: 14-Jan-99 Time: 08:39:06 This message was sent by XFMail ---------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jan 14 01:18:36 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA12209 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 01:18:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail9.svr.pol.co.uk (mail9.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA12204 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 01:18:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from A.M.Zanker@open.ac.uk) Received: from modem-83.fluvoxamine.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.68.211] helo=jemima) by mail9.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 100iu4-0003vt-00 for current@freebsd.org; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 09:17:24 +0000 Message-Id: <4.1.19990114091134.009941c0@aire.open.ac.uk> X-Sender: mikez@aire.open.ac.uk (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 09:16:06 +0000 To: current@FreeBSD.ORG From: Mike Zanker Subject: amd no longer builds Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Having cvsup'd current approximately 2300 GMT yesterday, make world fails during compilation of /usr/sbin/amd: /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/libamu/../../../contrib/amd/libamu/mount_fs.c: In function `compute_nfs_args': /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/libamu/../../../contrib/amd/libamu/mount_fs.c:338: syntax error before `fh3' /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/libamu/../../../contrib/amd/libamu/mount_fs.c:349: `fh3' undeclared (first use this function) /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/libamu/../../../contrib/amd/libamu/mount_fs.c:349: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/libamu/../../../contrib/amd/libamu/mount_fs.c:349: for each function it appears in.) /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/libamu/../../../contrib/amd/libamu/mount_fs.c:349: `nfs_fh3' undeclared (first use this function) *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. Thanks in advance, Mike -- Mike Zanker, Academic Computing Service, The Open University, UK Tel: +44 1908 652726, Fax: +44 1908 652193 Views expressed are personal and do not necessarily reflect University opinion. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jan 14 01:18:49 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA12247 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 01:18:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from korin.warman.org.pl (korin.nask.waw.pl [195.187.243.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA12210 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 01:18:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from abial@nask.pl) Received: from localhost (abial@localhost) by korin.warman.org.pl (8.9.1/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA20212; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 10:20:22 +0100 (CET) X-Authentication-Warning: korin.warman.org.pl: abial owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 10:20:21 +0100 (CET) From: Andrzej Bialecki X-Sender: abial@korin.warman.org.pl To: Chris Timmons cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: boot.conf -> loader.rc In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 13 Jan 1999, Chris Timmons wrote: > Change /boot/boot.conf to /boot/loader.rc - this name reflects what it > really is. Thanks! Andrzej Bialecki -------------------- ++-------++ ------------------------------------- ||PicoBSD|| FreeBSD in your pocket? Go and see: Research & Academic |+-------+| "Small & Embedded FreeBSD" Network in Poland | |TT~~~| | http://www.freebsd.org/~picobsd/ -------------------- ~-+==---+-+ ------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jan 14 02:16:32 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA17947 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 02:16:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from axl.noc.iafrica.com (axl.noc.iafrica.com [196.31.1.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA17937; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 02:16:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sheldonh@axl.noc.iafrica.com) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.noc.iafrica.com) by axl.noc.iafrica.com with local-esmtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 100jnN-0008Xk-00; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 12:14:33 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: "Richard Seaman, Jr." cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, obrien@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Current broken in usr.sbin/amd/libamu In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 13 Jan 1999 20:16:17 CST." <19990113201617.C47922@tar.com> Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 12:14:33 +0200 Message-ID: <32843.916308873@axl.noc.iafrica.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Richard, I don't know if you noticed the amd import that happened yesterday (possibly the day before, I don't remember) in cvs-all e-mail. There were quite a few conflicts in the import and there are probably nits that need to be ironed out. I find cvs-all invaluable in trying to guess when it is a good time to build world. Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jan 14 02:25:09 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA19253 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 02:25:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from polaris.we.lc.ehu.es (polaris.we.lc.ehu.es [158.227.6.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA19210 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 02:24:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jose@we.lc.ehu.es) Received: from we.lc.ehu.es (tiburon [158.227.6.111]) by polaris.we.lc.ehu.es (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA15951 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 11:23:29 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <369DC5A1.2D545F27@we.lc.ehu.es> Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 11:23:29 +0100 From: "José Mª Alcaide" Organization: Universidad del País Vasco - Dept. de Electricidad y Electrónica X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Chuck Badges for computer cases ? References: <199901131154.MAA12664@ocean.campus.luth.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mikael Karpberg wrote: > > Well, why don't you go to this URL, and buy them? :-) > > http://www.freebsdmall.com/promotional/ > > > I would definately Love to have one of those (with Chuck then of course) > > on my computer case .... > > I already have that. :-) On both my computers, actually. > I bought ten :-). I placed them on several computers, and also on the door of my car's trunk. It looks great! -- JMA ----------------------------------------------------------------------- José Mª Alcaide | mailto:jose@we.lc.ehu.es Universidad del País Vasco | http://www.we.lc.ehu.es/~jose Dpto. de Electricidad y Electrónica | Facultad de Ciencias - Campus de Lejona | Tel.: +34-946012479 48940 Lejona (Vizcaya) - SPAIN | Fax: +34-944858139 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- "Go ahead... make my day." - H. Callahan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jan 14 02:53:44 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA21993 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 02:53:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.binep.ac.ru (ns.binep.ac.ru [193.233.37.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA21985 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 02:53:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from goshik@binep.ac.ru) Received: from unknown (serv2 [193.233.44.77]) by ns.binep.ac.ru (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA00369 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 13:51:18 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from goshik@binep.ac.ru) Message-ID: X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Igor B. Bykhalo" Subject: buildworld fails on /usr/src/lib/csu/i386-elf/crt1.c - ? Date: Thu, 14 Jan 99 13:45:29 PST Content-Type: text/plain; charset="KOI8-R"; X-MAPIextension=".TXT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG CVSupp'ed this morning, got make buildworld failure: [...] -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Rebuilding bootstrap libraries -------------------------------------------------------------- cd /usr/src; PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin:/home/goshik/bin:/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/X11R6/bin BISON_SIMPLE=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/share/misc/bison.simple COMPILER_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/libexec:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin GCC_EXEC_PREFIX=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib/ LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib NOEXTRADEPEND=t OBJFORMAT_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/libexec:/usr/libexec /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin/make DESTDIR=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp -f Makefile.inc1 bootstrap-libraries cd /usr/src/lib/csu/i386-elf; /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin/make -DNOINFO -DNOMAN -DNOPIC-DNOPROFILE -DNOSHARED cleandepend; /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin/make -DNOINFO -DNOMAN -DNOPIC -DNOPROFILE -DNOSHARED all; /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin/make -DNOINFO -DNOMAN -DNOPIC -DNOPROFILE -DNOSHARED -B install cleandir obj rm -f .depend /usr/obj/usr/src/lib/csu/i386-elf/GRTAGS /usr/obj/usr/src/lib/csu/i386-elf/GSYMS /usr/obj/usr/src/lib/csu/i386-elf/GTAGS cc -O -pipe -elf -Wall -Wno-unused -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/lib/csu/i386-elf/crt1.c -o crt1.o {standard input}: Assembler messages: {standard input}:5: Error: Unknown pseudo-op: `.section' *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. [...] # uname -a FreeBSD ns.binep.ac.ru 3.0-980520-SNAP FreeBSD 3.0-980520-SNAP #1: Fri Nov 27 11:14:32 MSK 1998 goshik@ns.binep.ac.ru:/usr/src/sys/compile/BINEW.3Com.ipx i386 /usr/obj was entirely emty before make biuldworld. The system is old plain 486DX2/66 with 16MB RAM 8-) TIA Igor Bykhalo aka Goshik To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jan 14 05:18:39 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA06042 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 05:18:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from octopus.originative.co.uk (originat.demon.co.uk [158.152.220.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA06036 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 05:18:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from paul@originative.co.uk) Received: by OCTOPUS with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 13:16:04 -0000 Message-ID: From: Paul Richards To: "'Warner Losh'" , Greg Lehey Cc: FreeBSD current users Subject: A closed developers list (follows on from Thanks Core Team) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 13:16:02 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > -----Original Message----- > From: Warner Losh [mailto:imp@village.org] > Sent: Monday, December 28, 1998 7:30 PM > To: Greg Lehey > Cc: FreeBSD current users > Subject: Re: Thanks, Core Team > > > : > -committers is a notorious unproductive and flame-prone place to > : > discuss code removal. > > I have to ***STRONGLY*** disagree with this sentement. -committers > has been, at times, flame prone. However, many times when I have > asked for feedback in -committers there is enough good information > generated, even if there is some flamage. > > -current is by far much worse than -committers. > > Personally, I think that *ANY* major changes should be talked about in > at least -committers. It is a small enough group to have a high > enough signal to noise ratio, and a large enough group to get a > meaningfully good responses. > > And if people start to flame or get off into the weeds on -committers, > then other committers should tell them so. The problem with committers is that it's not the small group you suggest it is, it's still an open list, it just hasn't been corrupted in the way that current has become but it's starting. I think we should have a closed list for just committers. I can sympathise with Poul though I don't agree with him. I think the excuse that it's hard work to get consensus on the open lists is not an excuse for not consulting the other project members outside of core. However, I do agree that the open lists have become unmanageable. All of the lists, committers included which is not supposed to be a discussion forum (!), have become far too overloaded for comfortable discussion to take place. Given that there has been some sentiment that core needs to open up a little bit when it comes to discussing project decisions then those with commit privs would be the natural group to include in the discussions. With a closed committers list then the people involved in the main have a proven track record of active participation and have a vested interest in what happens to the tree rather than a passive interest from the sidelines. There's also an element of accountability and manageability since commit privs are just that, a privilege and can be revoked if a civil attitude to discussion does not prevail (should apply to core team members as much as anyone else). I think it would provide a buffer for core to check consensus and tweak their position before carrying out actions or pronouncing things to a wider audience. A bit like the cabinet presenting a discussion to parliament but not letting the people get involved in every little bit of decision making. If we do that then I think the current committers list should be shut off and just used for commit messages. The email load is becoming a big problem, I find I'm losing discussions and important messages in the noise that mostly should be in questions or hackers but is permeating to those lists where the developers hang out in the belief that that's where the best answer will come from. Paul. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jan 14 06:03:37 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA09518 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 06:03:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.196.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA09513 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 06:03:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (IDENT:ctzQ6nl87Y7xY+ypYa4kMssOlSt1QZgb@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA18265; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 23:02:18 +0900 (JST) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.7.6+2.6Wbeta7/3.4W/zodiac-May96) with ESMTP id XAA10573; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 23:04:47 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199901141404.XAA10573@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> To: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" cc: Christopher Masto , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp Subject: Re: Sudden mouse death? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 14 Jan 1999 08:55:02 GMT." References: Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 23:04:46 +0900 From: Kazutaka YOKOTA Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >> Do you have the apm driver enabled? If so please try the following >> options in your kernel config file. >> >> options PSM_HOOKAPM >> options PSM_RESETAFTERSUSPEND > > With both of these on I've had another mouse lockup. I also had >PSM_DEBUG=2 set so I managed to find out that the reset was getting a >PSM_RESEND return status from the mouse. Would you show me the log? > What can I do next. Try increasing the following values. options KBD_MAXRETRY=5 options KBD_MAXWAIT=8 Default values for the above options are 3 and 5 respectively. Kazu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jan 14 06:12:48 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA10342 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 06:12:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gatekeeper.tsc.tdk.com (gatekeeper.tsc.tdk.com [207.113.159.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA10336; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 06:12:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gdonl@tsc.tdk.com) Received: from sunrise.gv.tsc.tdk.com (root@sunrise.gv.tsc.tdk.com [192.168.241.191]) by gatekeeper.tsc.tdk.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA08476; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 06:11:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gdonl@tsc.tdk.com) Received: from salsa.gv.tsc.tdk.com (salsa.gv.tsc.tdk.com [192.168.241.194]) by sunrise.gv.tsc.tdk.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA15249; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 06:11:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gdonl@localhost) by salsa.gv.tsc.tdk.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA25453; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 06:11:24 -0800 (PST) From: Don Lewis Message-Id: <199901141411.GAA25453@salsa.gv.tsc.tdk.com> Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 06:11:24 -0800 In-Reply-To: Jim Bryant "Forward all spam to UCE@FTC.GOV" (Jan 13, 7:36pm) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.6 alpha(3) 7/19/95) To: jbryant@unix.tfs.net, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Forward all spam to UCE@FTC.GOV Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Jan 13, 7:36pm, Jim Bryant wrote: } Subject: Forward all spam to UCE@FTC.GOV } This announcement is located on the Federal Trade Commission's } complaint form page http://www.ftc.gov/ftc/complaint.htm } } ------------------ } If you would like to forward unsolicited commercial e-mail (spam) to } the Commission, please send it directly to UCE@FTC.GOV without using } this form. } ------------------ } } Could this be added to sendmail.cf somehow by default? maybe as a } comment? Maybe as some kind of autoforwarder in spam filtering? This would also forward non UCE spam (religious, revenge spams, etc.) as well as any false positives that tripped the spam filter. Also, not all UCE type spams are best reported to the UCE address. Stock spams should be reported to the SEC, and quack medicines should be reported to the FDA. I also think that overstuffing the FTC mailbox may make them less effective at whacking the spammers that need it the most. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jan 14 06:45:54 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA13359 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 06:45:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hcsext.hcs.de (hcsext.hcs.de [194.123.40.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA13340 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 06:45:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hm@hcs.de) Received: from hcswork.hcs.de([192.76.124.5]) (1691 bytes) by hcsext.hcs.de via sendmail with P:smtp/R:inet_hosts/T:smtp (sender: ) id for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 15:44:44 +0100 (CET) (Smail-3.2.0.104 1998-Nov-20 #1 built 1998-Dec-11) Received: by hcswork.hcs.de (Smail3.1.29.0 #12) id m100o0m-0000fgC; Thu, 14 Jan 99 15:44 MET Message-Id: From: hm@hcs.de (Hellmuth Michaelis) Subject: Re: i4b devices not made In-Reply-To: from Leif Neland at "Jan 12, 99 01:38:42 am" To: leif@swimsuit.internet.dk (Leif Neland) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 15:44:40 +0100 (MET) Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: hm@hcs.de Organization: HCS Hanseatischer Computerservice GmbH X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >From the keyboard of Leif Neland: > isdnd says: ERR init_controller: no ISDN controller found. > > dmesg: > ITK ix1 micro probe: hscx = 0xff, config = 0xff, would have failed > isic0 at 0x2a8 irq 9 flags 0x12 on isa > isic0: HSCX VSTR test failed for ITK ix1 micro > isic0: HSC0: VSTR: 0xff > isic0: HSC1: VSTR: 0xff > isic0: irq with no handler The ITK card is not detected. Martin sent me some patches for the ITK card, which i lost by accident, but he'll resent them an i will commit them then. hellmuth -- Hellmuth Michaelis Tel +49 40 559747-70 HCS Hanseatischer Computerservice GmbH Fax +49 40 559747-77 Oldesloer Strasse 97-99 Mail hm [at] hcs.de 22457 Hamburg WWW http://www.hcs.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jan 14 06:59:22 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA14705 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 06:59:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pooh.elsevier.nl (pooh.elsevier.nl [145.36.9.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA14681 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 06:59:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from steveo@iol.ie) Received: from pooh.elsevier.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pooh.elsevier.nl (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA01109; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 14:56:31 GMT (envelope-from steveo@iol.ie) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199901141404.XAA10573@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 14:56:29 -0000 (GMT) From: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" To: Kazutaka YOKOTA Subject: Re: Sudden mouse death? Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, Christopher Masto Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 14-Jan-99 Kazutaka YOKOTA wrote: >>PSM_DEBUG=2 set so I managed to find out that the reset was getting a >>PSM_RESEND return status from the mouse. > > options KBD_MAXRETRY=5 > options KBD_MAXWAIT=8 > I will try these. > Would you show me the log? Here is one snippet, from a failure just after a resume. Jan 13 21:38:49 pooh /kernel: kbdio: TEST_AUX_PORT status:0000 Jan 13 21:38:49 pooh /kernel: kbdio: RESET_AUX return code:00fe Jan 13 21:38:49 pooh last message repeated 2 times Jan 13 21:38:49 pooh /kernel: kbdio: DIAGNOSE status:0055 Jan 13 21:38:49 pooh /kernel: kbdio: TEST_KBD_PORT status:0000 Jan 13 21:38:49 pooh /kernel: psm0: failed to reset the aux device. Jan 13 21:38:49 pooh /kernel: psm0: the aux device has gone! (psmresume). Jan 13 21:38:49 pooh /kernel: Warning: APM hook "PS/2 mouse" failed Here is another from a failure just after boot up Jan 13 21:54:21 pooh /kernel: psm0: current command byte:0047 Jan 13 21:54:21 pooh /kernel: kbdio: TEST_AUX_PORT status:0000 Jan 13 21:54:21 pooh /kernel: kbdio: RESET_AUX return code:00fa Jan 13 21:54:21 pooh /kernel: kbdio: RESET_AUX status:00aa Jan 13 21:54:21 pooh /kernel: kbdio: RESET_AUX ID:0000 Jan 13 21:54:21 pooh /kernel: psm: ENABLE_DEV return code:00fa Jan 13 21:54:21 pooh /kernel: psm: DISABLE_DEV return code:00fa Jan 13 21:54:21 pooh /kernel: psm: SEND_AUX_DEV_STATUS return code:00fa Jan 13 21:54:21 pooh /kernel: psm: status 00 02 64 Jan 13 21:54:21 pooh /kernel: psm: SEND_DEV_ID return code:00fa Jan 13 21:54:21 pooh /kernel: psm: device ID: 0000 Jan 13 21:54:21 pooh /kernel: psm: SET_RESOLUTION (0) 00fa Jan 13 21:54:21 pooh /kernel: psm: SET_SCALING11 return code:00fa Jan 13 21:54:21 pooh last message repeated 2 times Jan 13 21:54:21 pooh /kernel: psm: SEND_AUX_DEV_STATUS return code:00fa Jan 13 21:54:21 pooh /kernel: psm: status 00 00 64 Jan 13 21:54:21 pooh /kernel: psm: SET_RESOLUTION (3) 00fa Jan 13 21:54:21 pooh /kernel: psm: SET_SCALING11 return code:00fa Jan 13 21:54:21 pooh last message repeated 2 times Jan 13 21:54:21 pooh /kernel: psm: SEND_AUX_DEV_STATUS return code:00fa Jan 13 21:54:21 pooh /kernel: psm: status 00 03 64 Jan 13 21:54:21 pooh /kernel: psm: SET_RESOLUTION (3) 00fa Jan 13 21:54:21 pooh /kernel: psm: SET_SCALING11 return code:00fa Jan 13 21:54:21 pooh /kernel: psm: SET_SCALING11 return code:00fa Jan 13 21:54:21 pooh /kernel: psm: SET_SCALING Jan 13 21:54:21 pooh /kernel: 11 return code:00fa Jan 13 21:54:21 pooh /kernel: psm: SEND_AUX_DEV_STATUS return code:00fa Jan 13 21:54:21 pooh /kernel: psm: status 00 03 64 Jan 13 21:54:21 pooh /kernel: psm: SET_RESOLUTION (0) 00fa Jan 13 21:54:21 pooh /kernel: psm: SET_SCALING21 return code:00fa Jan 13 21:54:21 pooh last message repeated 2 times Jan 13 21:54:21 pooh /kernel: psm: SEND_AUX_DEV_STATUS return code:00fa Jan 13 21:54:22 pooh /kernel: psm: status 10 00 64 Jan 13 21:54:22 pooh /kernel: psm: SET_SCALING11 return code:00fa Jan 13 21:54:22 pooh /kernel: psm: SET_RESOLUTION (0) 00fa Jan 13 21:54:22 pooh /kernel: psm: SET_RESOLUTION (3) 00fa Jan 13 21:54:22 pooh /kernel: psm: SET_RESOLUTION (2) 00fa Jan 13 21:54:22 pooh /kernel: psm: SET_RESOLUTION (1) 00fa Jan 13 21:54:22 pooh /kernel: psm: SET_SCALING11 return code:00fa Jan 13 21:54:22 pooh /kernel: psm: SET_RESOLUTION (3) 00fa Jan 13 21:54:22 pooh /kernel: psm: SET_RESOLUTION (1) 00fa Jan 13 21:54:22 pooh /kernel: psm: SET_RESOLUTION (2) 00fa Jan 13 21:54:22 pooh /kernel: psm: SET_RESOLUTION (3) 00fa Jan 13 21:54:22 pooh /kernel: psm: SEND_AUX_DEV_DATA return code:00fa Jan 13 21:54:22 pooh /kernel: psm: data 08 00 00 Jan 13 21:54:22 pooh /kernel: psm: SEND_DEV_ID return code:00fa Jan 13 21:54:22 pooh /kernel: psm: device ID: 0000 Jan 13 21:54:22 pooh /kernel: psm: SET_SAMPLING_RATE (10) 00fa Jan 13 21:54:22 pooh /kernel: psm: SEND_DEV_ID return code:00fa Jan 13 21:54:22 pooh /kernel: psm: device ID: 0000 Jan 13 21:54:22 pooh /kernel: psm: SET_SAMPLING_RATE (200) 00fa Jan 13 21:54:22 pooh /kernel: psm: SET_SAMPLING_RATE (100) 00fa Jan 13 21:54:22 pooh /kernel: psm: SET_SAMPLING_RATE (80) 00fa Jan 13 21:54:22 pooh /kernel: psm: SEND_DEV_ID return code:00fa Jan 13 21:54:22 pooh /kernel: psm: devi Jan 13 21:54:22 pooh /kernel: ce ID: 0000 Jan 13 21:54:22 pooh /kernel: psm0: SET_DEFAULTS return code:00fa Jan 13 21:54:22 pooh /kernel: psm: SEND_AUX_DEV_DATA return code:00fa Jan 13 21:54:22 pooh /kernel: psm: data 08 00 00 Jan 13 21:54:22 pooh /kernel: psm: SEND_AUX_DEV_STATUS return code:00fa Jan 13 21:54:23 pooh /kernel: psm: status 00 02 64 Jan 13 21:54:23 pooh /kernel: psm0 at 0x60-0x64 irq 12 on motherboard Jan 13 21:54:23 pooh /kernel: psm0: APM hooks installed. Jan 13 21:54:23 pooh /kernel: psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0, 2 buttons Jan 13 21:54:23 pooh /kernel: psm0: config:00000000, flags:00000000, packet size:3 Jan 13 21:54:23 pooh /kernel: psm0: syncmask:c0, syncbits:00 Jan 13 21:54:23 pooh /kernel: mss_probe: no address supplied, try default 0x530 - - lots of normal boot up messages ending in the filesystem stuff then Jan 13 21:54:33 pooh /kernel: psm: ENABLE_DEV return code:00fe Jan 13 21:54:33 pooh /kernel: kbdio: DIAGNOSE status:0055 Jan 13 21:54:33 pooh /kernel: kbdio: TEST_KBD_PORT status:0000 Jan 13 21:54:33 pooh /kernel: psm0: failed to enable the device (doopen). >> What can I do next. > > Try increasing the following values. > > Default values for the above options are 3 and 5 respectively. > > Kazu ---------------------------------- E-Mail: Steve O'Hara-Smith Date: 14-Jan-99 Time: 14:50:32 This message was sent by XFMail ---------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jan 14 07:14:32 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA16716 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 07:14:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from garbo.lodgenet.com (garbo.lodgenet.com [204.124.122.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA16710 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 07:14:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from erich@lodgenet.com) Received: from jake.lodgenet.com (jake.lodgenet.com [10.0.122.30]) by garbo.lodgenet.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id IAA22578; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 08:57:30 -0600 Received: from jake.lodgenet.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jake.lodgenet.com (8.9.1/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA86132; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 09:10:26 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199901141510.JAA86132@jake.lodgenet.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Luigi Rizzo cc: ambrisko@whistle.com (Doug Ambrisko), current@FreeBSD.ORG, erich@jake.lodgenet.com Subject: Re: netboot & ELF kernels In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 14 Jan 1999 04:51:58 +0100." <199901140351.EAA28535@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 09:10:26 -0600 From: "Eric L. Hernes" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Luigi Rizzo writes: >> >A few comments on netboot. Recently, erich@lodgenet.com >contributed netboot support for "fxp" cards. The msg was posted on some >freebsd list about 1 month ago, and the file to look for is "nbfxp.tgz". > >Again, better than nothing, although it does not support ELF i think. > Yea, that's right, although it's the netboot infrastructure, not the fxp specifics (obviously). I talked to Mike Smith on the future of netbooting when the 3-stage boot was still in early developoment. There is some code in the new 3rd stage that looks like it's there for netboot; but I'm not sure whether it's functional or not. I was kind of figuring that the current bootroms would get the 3rd stage boot loader, which would in turn fetch the real kernel. Supporting any card that has a FreeBSD driver isn't that tough, you don't really need programming specs other than the driver source (although it is nice). Tricker is actually burning the flash image. >Having tried both the tftp and nfs method, i prefer the latter a lot >because it means i don't have to cnfigure another service (TFTP) on the >server: with the current FreeBSD's netboot, you can supply all >parameters with bootp (which you'd need anyways -- or replace it with >DHCP i guess) and download the kernel with NFS (which your server >probably already has). I'd have to agree with the bootp/nfs scheme. I use NFS enough that I'm somewhat familiar with the errors it gives; but everytime something goes wrong with tftp, I end up groveling through the man-pages and tcpdump ;-) > > cheers > luigi > Eric -- Eric L. Hernes erich@lodgenet.com erich@rrnet.com http://rrnet.com/~erich To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jan 14 07:17:51 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA17049 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 07:17:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from axl.noc.iafrica.com (axl.noc.iafrica.com [196.31.1.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA17038 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 07:17:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sheldonh@axl.noc.iafrica.com) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.noc.iafrica.com) by axl.noc.iafrica.com with local-esmtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 100oTN-000962-00; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 17:14:13 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: Mike Zanker cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: amd no longer builds In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 14 Jan 1999 09:16:06 GMT." <4.1.19990114091134.009941c0@aire.open.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 17:14:13 +0200 Message-ID: <34969.916326853@axl.noc.iafrica.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 14 Jan 1999 09:16:06 GMT, Mike Zanker wrote: > Having cvsup'd current approximately 2300 GMT yesterday, make world fails > during compilation of /usr/sbin/amd: Are you subscribed to the cvs-all or cvs-all-digest mailing list? You'd see that major changes are happening in src/contrib/amd. Also, you're the 3rd person to post this to freebsd-current. Always good to check here first before reporting a problem. Advice, chill out, subscribe to cvs-all-digest (and freebsd-current if you haven't already) and watch your mailbox. Oh, and love your fellow man. ;) Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jan 14 07:42:30 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA19948 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 07:42:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail2.svr.pol.co.uk (mail2.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA19921 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 07:42:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from A.M.Zanker@open.ac.uk) Received: from modem-99.calcium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.9.227] helo=jemima) by mail2.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 100otU-0000Rp-00; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 15:41:12 +0000 Message-Id: <4.1.19990114153827.05e5df10@aire.open.ac.uk> X-Sender: mikez@aire.open.ac.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 15:40:54 +0000 To: Sheldon Hearn From: Mike Zanker Subject: Re: amd no longer builds Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <34969.916326853@axl.noc.iafrica.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 15:14 14/01/99 , Sheldon Hearn wrote: >Are you subscribed to the cvs-all or cvs-all-digest mailing list? You'd >see that major changes are happening in src/contrib/amd. Yes, which is why I thought it was important for the committer to note the error. >Also, you're the 3rd person to post this to freebsd-current. Always good >to check here first before reporting a problem. I did - there were no other reports at the time I sent mine. >Advice, chill out, subscribe to cvs-all-digest (and freebsd-current if >you haven't already) and watch your mailbox. Nothing to chill about - the least I can do when running current is point out any problems I come across. >Oh, and love your fellow man. ;) I do that anyway :) Mike -- Mike Zanker, Academic Computing Service, The Open University, UK Tel: +44 1908 652726, Fax: +44 1908 652193 Views expressed are personal and do not necessarily reflect University opinion. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jan 14 09:02:00 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA29893 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 09:02:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA29888 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 09:01:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ambrisko@whistle.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by alpo.whistle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA16786 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 08:50:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from crab.whistle.com(207.76.205.112), claiming to be "whistle.com" via SMTP by alpo.whistle.com, id smtpdG16778; Thu Jan 14 16:50:12 1999 Received: (from ambrisko@localhost) by whistle.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA43247 for current@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 08:50:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ambrisko) From: Doug Ambrisko Message-Id: <199901141650.IAA43247@whistle.com> Subject: Re: netboot & ELF kernels In-Reply-To: <199901141510.JAA86132@jake.lodgenet.com> from "Eric L. Hernes" at "Jan 14, 99 09:10:26 am" To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 08:49:56 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL29 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Eric L. Hernes writes: | Luigi Rizzo writes: | >A few comments on netboot. Recently, erich@lodgenet.com | >contributed netboot support for "fxp" cards. The msg was posted on some | >freebsd list about 1 month ago, and the file to look for is "nbfxp.tgz". Yep saw that. | Yea, that's right, although it's the netboot infrastructure, not the | fxp specifics (obviously). I talked to Mike Smith on the future of | netbooting when the 3-stage boot was still in early developoment. There | is some code in the new 3rd stage that looks like it's there for netboot; | but I'm not sure whether it's functional or not. >From my understanding is that we needed a 3 stage boot since we ran out of room in the boot block. We have a lot more space in the rom. Note I'm not saying I don't like the new features in the 3 stage boot. We don't have as much of a space constraint in the netboot rom. It would be nice to have unified loader code though. | I was kind of figuring that the current bootroms would get the 3rd stage | boot loader, which would in turn fetch the real kernel. | | Supporting any card that has a FreeBSD driver isn't that tough, you don't | really need programming specs other than the driver source (although | it is nice). Tricker is actually burning the flash image. The Nilo project is taking this one step further and they plan to use the Linux network drivers right from the kernel sources. This way once a driver is in Linux then it will be available in for Nilo | >Having tried both the tftp and nfs method, i prefer the latter a lot | >because it means i don't have to cnfigure another service (TFTP) on the | >server: with the current FreeBSD's netboot, you can supply all | >parameters with bootp (which you'd need anyways -- or replace it with | >DHCP i guess) and download the kernel with NFS (which your server | >probably already has). | | I'd have to agree with the bootp/nfs scheme. I use NFS enough that I'm | somewhat familiar with the errors it gives; but everytime something | goes wrong with tftp, I end up groveling through the man-pages and | tcpdump ;-) Not always ... there are a lot more "free" bootp/tftp clients out there then bootp/nfs servers. What about doing a net boot of a windows machine and using sharity light (rumba) to get the rootfs on top of a mfs root in the netbooted kernel. There are reasons why I like this. Not to mention that DEC Alpha firmare can netboot via tftp, I recall Sun uses tftp then there are various network things that like tftp. BTW there is no reason the etherboot package can't use nfs again. It's just that the Linux guys removed it. Note the Etherboot package was derived from the FreeBSD netboot code so it would be fairly easy to add in. Doug A. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jan 14 09:04:23 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA00269 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 09:04:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [128.120.56.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA00260 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 09:04:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA84455; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 09:03:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 09:03:02 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Mike Zanker Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: amd no longer builds Message-ID: <19990114090302.A84422@relay.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@NUXI.com References: <34969.916326853@axl.noc.iafrica.com> <4.1.19990114153827.05e5df10@aire.open.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990114153827.05e5df10@aire.open.ac.uk>; from Mike Zanker on Thu, Jan 14, 1999 at 03:40:54PM +0000 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > >Are you subscribed to the cvs-all or cvs-all-digest mailing list? You'd > >see that major changes are happening in src/contrib/amd. > > Yes, which is why I thought it was important for the committer to note the > error. Committer just realized not all the fixups got in after looking at a buildworld output. :-) I welcome cc:'s when people notice problems so I can take care of them ASAP. -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.com -or- obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jan 14 09:10:36 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA01450 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 09:10:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [128.120.56.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA01441 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 09:10:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA84502; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 09:06:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 09:06:38 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Paul Richards Cc: FreeBSD current users Subject: Re: A closed developers list (follows on from Thanks Core Team) Message-ID: <19990114090638.B84422@relay.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@NUXI.com References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: ; from Paul Richards on Thu, Jan 14, 1999 at 01:16:02PM -0000 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I think we should have a closed list for just committers. I can We already do. It is called -committers. :-) -committers is a seperate list from cvs-all, and cvs-*. Most of the content of -committers makes it to cvs-*. But things can be kept only to -committers went desired. -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.com -or- obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jan 14 09:48:41 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA06713 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 09:48:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pinhead.parag.codegen.com (ppp-sfx201--099.sirius.net [205.134.235.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA06708 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 09:48:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from parag@cgt.com) Received: from pinhead.parag.codegen.com (localhost.parag.codegen.com [127.0.0.1]) by pinhead.parag.codegen.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA21954; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 09:47:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from parag@pinhead.parag.codegen.com) Message-Id: <199901141747.JAA21954@pinhead.parag.codegen.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Andrew Atrens" cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: potential ide_pci.c bugster In-Reply-To: Message from "Andrew Atrens" of "Thu, 14 Jan 1999 00:54:33 EST." X-Face: =O'Kj74icvU|oS*<7gS/8'\Pbpm}okVj*@UC!IgkmZQAO!W[|iBiMs*|)n*`X ]pW%m>Oz_mK^Gdazsr.Z0/JsFS1uF8gBVIoChGwOy{EK=<6g?aHE`[\S]C]T0Wm X-URL: http://www.codegen.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 09:47:08 -0800 From: Parag Patel Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Rats. I'll have to redo the work on the CMD card and figure out why it didn't work the first time. The CMD part was definitely unhappy, and various debug statements showed it was not turning on the DMA on the drive because it thought the controller (candma) couldn't handle the drive. I seem to recall the problem was with it being on the 2nd IDE master rather than the 1st. Thanks for the feedback! -- Parag Patel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jan 14 10:16:35 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA10746 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 10:16:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from scientia.demon.co.uk (scientia.demon.co.uk [212.228.14.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA10741 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 10:16:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ben@scientia.demon.co.uk) Received: from ben by scientia.demon.co.uk with local (Exim 2.10 #3) id 100rIh-0004Qo-00 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 18:15:23 +0000 Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 18:15:23 +0000 From: Ben Smithurst To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: minor nit: user name length in sa(8) Message-ID: <19990114181523.A16865@scientia.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Looks like sa(8) needs to be updated to recognize 16 character user names. (It seems odd that this hasn't been fixed yet, is there some reason other than oversight why not?) --- src/usr.sbin/sa/usrdb.c~ Thu Jan 14 17:51:10 1999 +++ src/usr.sbin/sa/usrdb.c Thu Jan 14 18:00:07 1999 @@ -35,6 +35,7 @@ #include #include +#include #include #include #include @@ -236,7 +237,7 @@ while (rv == 0) { ui = (struct userinfo *) data.data; - printf("%-8s %9qu ", + printf("%-*s %9qu ", MAXLOGNAME - 1, user_from_uid(ui->ui_uid, 0), ui->ui_calls); t = (double) (ui->ui_utime + ui->ui_stime) / -- Ben Smithurst ben@scientia.demon.co.uk send a blank message to ben+pgp@scientia.demon.co.uk for PGP key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jan 14 10:42:14 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA15047 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 10:42:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA15038 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 10:42:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from imp@village.org) Received: from harmony [10.0.0.6] by rover.village.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 100rRf-00040J-00; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 11:24:39 -0700 Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.1/8.8.3) with ESMTP id LAA16761; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 11:23:28 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199901141823.LAA16761@harmony.village.org> To: Brian Beattie Subject: Re: aic0 driver in -CURRENT Cc: Charlie Root , current@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 12 Jan 1999 09:51:43 PST." References: Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 11:23:27 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message Brian Beattie writes: : The driver has bought a house, a fixer. It will be moving in this weekend : and hopefully start making progress again shortly thereafter. I'm glad to see this... Please disregard my last message on the topic.. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jan 14 10:42:23 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA15077 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 10:42:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA15063 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 10:42:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from imp@village.org) Received: from harmony [10.0.0.6] by rover.village.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 100rQB-000409-00; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 11:23:07 -0700 Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.1/8.8.3) with ESMTP id LAA16729; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 11:21:56 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199901141821.LAA16729@harmony.village.org> To: Charlie Root Subject: Re: aic0 driver in -CURRENT Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 12 Jan 1999 11:13:34 EST." <199901121613.LAA05236@hod.sales.geocities.com> References: <199901121613.LAA05236@hod.sales.geocities.com> Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 11:21:55 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <199901121613.LAA05236@hod.sales.geocities.com> Charlie Root writes: : I have searched the archives and saw an old thread on the aic driver, but : have seen nothing in the last two weeks, nor on this list. Is there a : current status on this driver? It is currently, afaik, languishing in limbo. Brian Beattie (Brian_Beattie@atlas.com) was the last person to volunteer, but his last status report implied that he didn't have time to work on it right now. I have the docs for the aic 6260 and 6360 that I could send to someone that wants to write the driver. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jan 14 11:02:07 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA18841 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 11:02:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA18732 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 11:02:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id RAA29888; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 17:56:14 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199901141656.RAA29888@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: netboot & ELF kernels To: erich@lodgenet.com (Eric L. Hernes) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 17:56:14 +0100 (MET) Cc: ambrisko@whistle.com, current@FreeBSD.ORG, erich@jake.lodgenet.com In-Reply-To: <199901141510.JAA86132@jake.lodgenet.com> from "Eric L. Hernes" at Jan 14, 99 09:10:07 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Supporting any card that has a FreeBSD driver isn't that tough, you don't > really need programming specs other than the driver source (although > it is nice). Tricker is actually burning the flash image. well it depends on the driver. Unless you have done some substantial work towards the integration with your fxp port, i remember the "ed" driver is significantly different (more complex) from the "ns8390.c" code, so backporting one driver to netboot is not easy. At least this was my experience with the "de" driver (things might be simpler for "pure" FreeBSD drivers such as fxp or the recent vintage of DEC clones from Bill Paul) cheers luigi -----------------------------------+------------------------------------- Luigi RIZZO . EMAIL: luigi@iet.unipi.it . Dip. di Ing. dell'Informazione HTTP://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ . Universita` di Pisa TEL/FAX: +39-050-568.533/522 . via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) -----------------------------------+------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jan 14 11:15:32 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA21287 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 11:15:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from awfulhak.org (awfulhak.force9.co.uk [195.166.136.63]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA21256; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 11:15:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (brian@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org [172.16.0.8]) by awfulhak.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA23974; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 19:12:21 GMT (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (brian@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (8.9.2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA44254; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 08:59:51 GMT (envelope-from brian@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <199901140859.IAA44254@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: Eivind Eklund , "Joseph T. Lee" , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Gratuitous name changes (was: libalias and ident) In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 13 Jan 1999 19:57:28 PST." <91306.916286248@zippy.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 08:59:51 +0000 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [-current cc'd for feedback] > > While we're at it, I think the library should be renamed to libnat. > > Hear hear! Just be sure that Brian changes ppp also so that it > becomes -nat with -alias as a backwards-compat option only. :) If libalias changes to libnat, I'd prefer to just change the ppp flag to -nat, update the ppp version to 2.1 and update src/usr.sbin/ppp/README.changes, otherwise I'll be running around with the crud forever. But this isn't necessarily a good idea as it may attract a pile of ``why the hell did you break my configuration for no good reason'' messages. Anyone with any strong opinions on this ? Of course it's not guaranteed that libalias will change to libnat, there's another thread starting on -hackers about that :-) It's also possible to change the ppp flag, even if libalias isn't renamed. > - Jordan -- Brian Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jan 14 11:27:04 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA23367 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 11:27:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns1.yes.no (ns1.yes.no [195.204.136.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA23305; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 11:26:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eivind@bitbox.follo.net) Received: from bitbox.follo.net (bitbox.follo.net [195.204.143.218]) by ns1.yes.no (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA19603; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 20:25:42 +0100 (CET) Received: (from eivind@localhost) by bitbox.follo.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) id UAA90126; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 20:25:40 +0100 (MET) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 20:25:40 +0100 From: Eivind Eklund To: Brian Somers Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , "Joseph T. Lee" , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Gratuitous name changes (was: libalias and ident) Message-ID: <19990114202540.C88792@bitbox.follo.net> References: <91306.916286248@zippy.cdrom.com> <199901140859.IAA44254@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: <199901140859.IAA44254@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org>; from Brian Somers on Thu, Jan 14, 1999 at 08:59:51AM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Jan 14, 1999 at 08:59:51AM +0000, Brian Somers wrote: > If libalias changes to libnat, I'd prefer to just change the ppp flag > to -nat, update the ppp version to 2.1 and update > src/usr.sbin/ppp/README.changes, otherwise I'll be running around > with the crud forever. > > But this isn't necessarily a good idea as it may attract a pile of > ``why the hell did you break my configuration for no good reason'' > messages. I think the old option should stay around for backwards compatibility through at least one branch; however, I'd also suggest adding -nat as an option _now_, as -alias is pretty non-intuitive. Of course, as you'll probably have to deal with the largest amount of crud, you're free to make the choice. > Of course it's not guaranteed that libalias will change to libnat, > there's another thread starting on -hackers about that :-) It's also > possible to change the ppp flag, even if libalias isn't renamed. As we'll have to do really significant API changes if this is to work, I don't think it matters much if it keep the same name, so we could just as well rename it when we have the chance. Whether apps use libalias.so v1 vs libalias.so v2 or libalias v1 vs libnat v1 should IMO not really matter much from the point of view of the program - and then we can get rid of our private terminology. Eivind. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jan 14 12:08:05 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA29878 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 12:08:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gratis.grondar.za (gratis.grondar.za [196.7.18.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA29810; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 12:07:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from greenpeace.grondar.za (greenpeace.grondar.za [196.7.18.132]) by gratis.grondar.za (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA01036; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 22:06:33 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grondar.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by greenpeace.grondar.za (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id WAA05222; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 22:06:32 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Message-Id: <199901142006.WAA05222@greenpeace.grondar.za> To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: HEADS UP!! Texinfo updates! Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 22:06:31 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Texinfo has been upgraded from the venerable 3.9 to the latest-and- greatest 3.12. Option names have changed (and been committed), and if you are not patient enough ;-) to do a make world, you'll at least need to go to src/share/mk and to a "make; make install". If you don't, you'll get breakage when install-info is used with --defsection (changed to --section). Also changed is --defentry to plain --entry. M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jan 14 12:08:38 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA00192 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 12:08:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from garbo.lodgenet.com (garbo.lodgenet.com [204.124.122.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA00187 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 12:08:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from erich@lodgenet.com) Received: from jake.lodgenet.com (jake.lodgenet.com [10.0.122.30]) by garbo.lodgenet.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id NAA27362; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 13:44:47 -0600 Received: from jake.lodgenet.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jake.lodgenet.com (8.9.1/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA89266; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 13:57:45 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199901141957.NAA89266@jake.lodgenet.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Luigi Rizzo cc: erich@lodgenet.com (Eric L. Hernes), ambrisko@whistle.com, current@FreeBSD.ORG, erich@jake.lodgenet.com, erich@jake.lodgenet.com Subject: Re: netboot & ELF kernels In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 14 Jan 1999 17:56:14 +0100." <199901141656.RAA29888@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 13:57:45 -0600 From: "Eric L. Hernes" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Luigi Rizzo writes: >> Supporting any card that has a FreeBSD driver isn't that tough, you don't >> really need programming specs other than the driver source (although >> it is nice). Tricker is actually burning the flash image. > >well it depends on the driver. Unless you have done some substantial >work towards the integration with your fxp port, i remember the "ed" >driver is significantly different (more complex) from >the "ns8390.c" code, so backporting one driver to netboot is not easy. >At least this was my experience with the "de" driver (things might be >simpler for "pure" FreeBSD drivers such as fxp or the recent vintage of >DEC clones from Bill Paul) Yea, any of the drivers that can handle multiple cards won't be as easy, but if you can hack out everything 'cept the interesting part, you're in business ;-) sometimes cvs history is your friend ;-) > > cheers > luigi >-----------------------------------+------------------------------------- > Luigi RIZZO . > EMAIL: luigi@iet.unipi.it . Dip. di Ing. dell'Informazione > HTTP://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ . Universita` di Pisa > TEL/FAX: +39-050-568.533/522 . via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) >-----------------------------------+------------------------------------- > Eric -- Eric L. Hernes erich@lodgenet.com erich@rrnet.com http://rrnet.com/~erich To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jan 14 12:29:17 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA02921 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 12:29:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pcpsj.pfcs.com (harlan.clark.net [168.143.10.179]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA02886; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 12:28:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Harlan.Stenn@pfcs.com) Received: from mumps.pfcs.com [192.52.69.11] (HELO mumps.pfcs.com) by pcpsj.pfcs.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) via ESMTP id ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 15:27:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from brown.pfcs.com [192.52.69.44] (HELO brown.pfcs.com) by mumps.pfcs.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) via ESMTP id ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 12:27:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost [127.0.0.1] (HELO brown.pfcs.com) by brown.pfcs.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) via ESMTP id ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 15:27:02 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Brian Somers cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , Eivind Eklund , "Joseph T. Lee" , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Gratuitous name changes (was: libalias and ident) In-Reply-To: Brian Somers's (brian@Awfulhak.org) message dated Thu, 14 Jan 1999 08:59:51. <199901140859.IAA44254@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org> X-Face: "csXK}xnnsH\h_ce`T#|pM]tG,6Xu.{3Rb\]&XJgVyTS'w{E+|-(}n:c(Cc* $cbtusxDP6T)Hr'k&zrwq0.3&~bAI~YJco[r.mE+K|(q]F=ZNXug:s6tyOk{VTqARy0#axm6BWti9C d Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 15:27:02 -0500 Message-ID: <7351.916345622@brown.pfcs.com> From: Harlan Stenn Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG One of the few things that irritate me (and I now expect) is that every so often, Somebody is going to change Something in the PPP configuration and I'll need to go in to my box (and the boxes at all of my customer sites) and reconfigure ppp.conf. It's why I always update my boxes fist, get a clean compile, update my customers' boxes, get things stable on my end, and then pray I got everything right on my customers' boxes. While this is only an issue for my customers that use PPP, since I'm connecting to them over that link, if something goes wrong... H To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jan 14 12:56:40 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA06624 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 12:56:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bright.fx.genx.net (bright.fx.genx.net [206.64.4.154]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA06616; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 12:56:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bright@hotjobs.com) Received: from localhost (bright@localhost) by bright.fx.genx.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA34149; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 15:59:06 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bright@hotjobs.com) X-Authentication-Warning: bright.fx.genx.net: bright owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 15:59:06 -0500 (EST) From: Alfred Perlstein X-Sender: bright@bright.fx.genx.net To: Harlan Stenn cc: Brian Somers , "Jordan K. Hubbard" , Eivind Eklund , "Joseph T. Lee" , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Gratuitous name changes (was: libalias and ident) In-Reply-To: <7351.916345622@brown.pfcs.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 14 Jan 1999, Harlan Stenn wrote: > One of the few things that irritate me (and I now expect) is that every so > often, Somebody is going to change Something in the PPP configuration and > I'll need to go in to my box (and the boxes at all of my customer sites) > and reconfigure ppp.conf. > > It's why I always update my boxes fist, get a clean compile, update my > customers' boxes, get things stable on my end, and then pray I got > everything right on my customers' boxes. While this is only an issue for > my customers that use PPP, since I'm connecting to them over that link, if > something goes wrong... Didn't someone mention keeping -alias around for a while as a depreciated, but backward compat flag? (I think it was Jordan makes sense to me.) Alfred Perlstein - Programmer, HotJobs Inc. - www.hotjobs.com -- There are operating systems, and then there's FreeBSD. -- http://www.freebsd.org/ 3.0-current > H > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jan 14 13:39:32 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA12800 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 13:39:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Wit401305.student.utwente.nl (wit401305.student.utwente.nl [130.89.236.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA12780 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 13:39:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from daeron@Wit401305.student.utwente.nl) Received: from localhost (daeron@localhost) by Wit401305.student.utwente.nl (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA76970 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 22:38:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from daeron@Wit401305.student.utwente.nl) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 22:38:14 +0100 (CET) From: Pascal Hofstee To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Current doesn't build in texinfo Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I just tried to build current cvsupped about 30 minutes ago .... building standard txi library ranlib libtxi.a ===> libintl cc -O -pipe -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DLOCALEDIR=\"/usr/share/locale\" -DGNULOCALEDIR=\"/usr/share/locale\" -DLOCALE_ALIAS_PATH=\"/usr/share/locale:.\" -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/libintl/../../../../contrib/texinfo -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/libintl/../../../../contrib/texinfo/lib -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/libintl/../../../../contrib/texinfo/intl -I. -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/libintl/../../../../contrib/texinfo/intl/bindtextdom.c -o bindtextdom.o /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/libintl/../../../../contrib/texinfo/intl/bindtextdom.c:19: config.h: No such file or directory *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 -------------------- Pascal Hofstee - daeron@shadowmere.student.utwente.nl -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GCS d- s+: a-- C++ UB++++ P+ L- E--- W- N+ o? K- w--- O? M V? PS+ PE Y-- PGP-- t+ 5 X-- R tv+ b+ DI D- G e* h+ r- y+ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jan 14 14:15:26 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA17680 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 14:15:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from soleil.uvsq.fr (soleil.uvsq.fr [193.51.24.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA17674 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 14:15:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from son@prism.uvsq.fr) Received: from prism.uvsq.fr (rtc103.reseau.uvsq.fr [193.51.24.19]) by soleil.uvsq.fr (8.9.1a/jtpda-5.3.2) with ESMTP id XAA04696 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 23:13:59 +0100 (CET) Received: (from son@localhost) by prism.uvsq.fr (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA00422; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 00:14:28 GMT (envelope-from son) Message-ID: <19990115001347.00530@breizh.prism.uvsq.fr> Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 00:13:47 +0000 From: Nicolas Souchu To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ZIP+ detection, need testers for the patch Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.81e X-Operating-System: FreeBSD breizh 3.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi there, Currently, the ZIP+ probe is intrusive and sends char to the printer if no ZIP+ is connected. Here is a patch that corrects the problem for my printer, but I haven't any ZIP+ :) So, please check the ZIP+ is still detected. Thanks Index: immio.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/dev/ppbus/immio.c,v retrieving revision 1.5 diff -u -r1.5 immio.c --- immio.c 1999/01/10 12:04:54 1.5 +++ immio.c 1999/01/15 00:05:10 @@ -109,7 +109,7 @@ #define DECLARE_CPP_MICROSEQ \ struct ppb_microseq cpp_microseq[] = { \ - MS_CASS(0x0c), MS_DELAY(2), \ + MS_CASS(0x00), MS_DELAY(2), \ MS_DASS(0xaa), MS_DELAY(10), \ MS_DASS(0x55), MS_DELAY(10), \ MS_DASS(0x00), MS_DELAY(10), \ @@ -121,9 +121,9 @@ MS_RFETCH(MS_REG_STR, 0x38, MS_UNKNOWN /* &s3 */), \ MS_DASS(MS_UNKNOWN /* param */), \ MS_DELAY(2), \ - MS_CASS(0x0c), MS_DELAY(10), \ - MS_CASS(0x0d), MS_DELAY(2), \ - MS_CASS(0x0c), MS_DELAY(10), \ + MS_CASS(0x00), MS_DELAY(10), \ + MS_CASS(0x02), MS_DELAY(2), \ + MS_CASS(0x00), MS_DELAY(10), \ MS_DASS(0xff), MS_DELAY(10), \ MS_RET(0) \ } -- nsouch@teaser.fr / nsouch@freebsd.org FreeBSD - Turning PCs into workstations - http://www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jan 14 14:48:49 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA22374 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 14:48:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from soleil.uvsq.fr (soleil.uvsq.fr [193.51.24.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA22369 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 14:48:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from son@prism.uvsq.fr) Received: from prism.uvsq.fr (rtc101.reseau.uvsq.fr [193.51.24.17]) by soleil.uvsq.fr (8.9.1a/jtpda-5.3.2) with ESMTP id XAA10350 ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 23:47:37 +0100 (CET) Received: (from son@localhost) by prism.uvsq.fr (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA00440; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 00:23:56 GMT (envelope-from son) Message-ID: <19990115002356.41673@breizh.prism.uvsq.fr> Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 00:23:56 +0000 From: Nicolas Souchu To: "D. Rock" Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ppbus panic after update References: <199901121546.QAA23365@vodix.aremorika> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.81e In-Reply-To: <199901121546.QAA23365@vodix.aremorika>; from D. Rock on Tue, Jan 12, 1999 at 04:46:17PM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD breizh 3.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Jan 12, 1999 at 04:46:17PM +0100, D. Rock wrote: > >After the latest ppbus upgrade my system panics during bootup >if my Creative Webcam II is connected at the parallel port. >The last line during probe looks like: >ppb0: IEEE1284 device found /PS2/ECP/EPP >panic: ppb_1284_negociate: unknown mode (0) A patch has been committed. Thanks. > >I have tried different flags for ppc but the results is always the same. >The parallel port is normally being detected as "SMC-like". > >This error isn't a big deal for me, since I normally don't use the parallel >port at all under FreeBSD. > >Daniel > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > -- nsouch@teaser.fr / nsouch@freebsd.org FreeBSD - Turning PCs into workstations - http://www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jan 14 15:08:00 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA25225 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 15:08:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from axl.noc.iafrica.com (axl.noc.iafrica.com [196.31.1.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA25220 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 15:07:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sheldonh@axl.noc.iafrica.com) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.noc.iafrica.com) by axl.noc.iafrica.com with local-esmtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 100vpx-00098w-00; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 01:06:01 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: Mike Zanker cc: obrien@NUXI.com, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: amd no longer builds In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 14 Jan 1999 09:03:02 PST." <19990114090302.A84422@relay.nuxi.com> Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 01:06:01 +0200 Message-ID: <35149.916355161@axl.noc.iafrica.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 14 Jan 1999 09:03:02 PST, "David O'Brien" wrote: > Committer just realized not all the fixups got in after looking at a > buildworld output. :-) Hi Mike, Pull fresh AMD source and try again... David's gotten the build past amd. :) Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jan 14 15:11:52 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA25811 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 15:11:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from kate.nws.fsu.edu (kate.nws.fsu.edu [146.201.16.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA25805 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 15:11:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dave@nws.fsu.edu) Received: from localhost (dave@localhost) by kate.nws.fsu.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id SAA21548; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 18:10:46 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 18:10:46 -0500 (EST) From: David Faciane To: Mike Zanker cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: amd no longer builds In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990114091134.009941c0@aire.open.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Having cvsup'd current approximately 2300 GMT yesterday, make world fails > during compilation of /usr/sbin/amd: > > /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/libamu/../../../contrib/amd/libamu/mount_fs.c: In > function `compute_nfs_args': > /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/libamu/../../../contrib/amd/libamu/mount_fs.c:338: > syntax error before `fh3' > /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/libamu/../../../contrib/amd/libamu/mount_fs.c:349: > `fh3' undeclared (first use this function) > /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/libamu/../../../contrib/amd/libamu/mount_fs.c:349: > (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once > /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/libamu/../../../contrib/amd/libamu/mount_fs.c:349: > for each function it appears in.) > /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/libamu/../../../contrib/amd/libamu/mount_fs.c:349: > `nfs_fh3' undeclared (first use this function) > *** Error code 1 > Stop. > *** Error code 1 > Stop. This happened to me to. I just deleted the tree under /usr/src/usr/sbin and re-cvsuped this morning. It built fine after that. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jan 14 15:21:22 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA00399 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 15:21:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from kate.nws.fsu.edu (kate.nws.fsu.edu [146.201.16.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA00394 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 15:21:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dave@nws.fsu.edu) Received: from localhost (dave@localhost) by kate.nws.fsu.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id SAA21908 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 18:20:11 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 18:20:11 -0500 (EST) From: David Faciane To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: windowmaker Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Anyone running the new windowmaker (0.50.2) on current? Any problems, advice, pitfalls? The windowmaker port is out of date (0.20.3). TIA David Faciane |web: http://www.nws.fsu.edu/ NOAA National Weather Service |Real-Time Worldwide Marine Weather Reports Tallahassee, FL | http://www.nws.fsu.edu/buoy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jan 14 15:27:04 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA00917 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 15:27:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Wit401305.student.utwente.nl (wit401305.student.utwente.nl [130.89.236.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA00910 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 15:27:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from daeron@Wit401305.student.utwente.nl) Received: from localhost (daeron@localhost) by Wit401305.student.utwente.nl (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA83050; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 00:25:48 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from daeron@Wit401305.student.utwente.nl) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 00:25:48 +0100 (CET) From: Pascal Hofstee To: David Faciane cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: windowmaker In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 14 Jan 1999, David Faciane wrote: > > Anyone running the new windowmaker (0.50.2) on current? Any problems, > advice, pitfalls? The windowmaker port is out of date (0.20.3). Running smoothly here .. just make sure you have libtool installed and use the following configure-line: ./configure --with-gfx-incs="-I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include/giflib" --with-gfx-libs="-L/usr/local/lib" --prefix=/usr/X11R6 --prefix can be ignored and in case you still run the old -ltiff34 (instead of -ltiff) you should add -I/usr/local/include/tiff34 to the incs-path as well -------------------- Pascal Hofstee - daeron@shadowmere.student.utwente.nl -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GCS d- s+: a-- C++ UB++++ P+ L- E--- W- N+ o? K- w--- O? M V? PS+ PE Y-- PGP-- t+ 5 X-- R tv+ b+ DI D- G e* h+ r- y+ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jan 14 15:37:30 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA02730 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 15:37:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from lambic.physics.montana.edu (lambic.physics.montana.edu [153.90.192.128]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA02716 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 15:37:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from handy@lambic.physics.montana.edu) Received: from localhost (handy@localhost) by lambic.physics.montana.edu (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA05203; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 16:36:00 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from handy@lambic.physics.montana.edu) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 16:36:00 -0700 (MST) From: Brian Handy To: David Faciane cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: windowmaker In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-files: The truth is out there MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >Anyone running the new windowmaker (0.50.2) on current? Any problems, >advice, pitfalls? The windowmaker port is out of date (0.20.3). I'm running it on -STABLE...no -current box here. I've sent the patches to my committer guy, but he doesn't seem to be in right now. (Maybe I'll submit a PR here in a minute so someone else can grab it and have a go at it.) Regards, Brian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jan 14 15:54:49 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA05055 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 15:54:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA05039 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 15:54:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from localhost (dfr@localhost) by nlsystems.com (8.9.1/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA20496; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 23:54:03 GMT Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 23:54:03 +0000 (GMT) From: Doug Rabson To: "Eric L. Hernes" cc: Luigi Rizzo , Doug Ambrisko , current@FreeBSD.ORG, erich@jake.lodgenet.com.demon.co.uk Subject: Re: netboot & ELF kernels In-Reply-To: <199901141510.JAA86132@jake.lodgenet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 14 Jan 1999, Eric L. Hernes wrote: > Luigi Rizzo writes: > >> > >A few comments on netboot. Recently, erich@lodgenet.com > >contributed netboot support for "fxp" cards. The msg was posted on some > >freebsd list about 1 month ago, and the file to look for is "nbfxp.tgz". > > > >Again, better than nothing, although it does not support ELF i think. > > > > Yea, that's right, although it's the netboot infrastructure, not the > fxp specifics (obviously). I talked to Mike Smith on the future of > netbooting when the 3-stage boot was still in early developoment. There > is some code in the new 3rd stage that looks like it's there for netboot; > but I'm not sure whether it's functional or not. It works well on the alpha. To make life easy, the SRM firmware has good support for low level networking. > > I was kind of figuring that the current bootroms would get the 3rd stage > boot loader, which would in turn fetch the real kernel. > > Supporting any card that has a FreeBSD driver isn't that tough, you don't > really need programming specs other than the driver source (although > it is nice). Tricker is actually burning the flash image. > > >Having tried both the tftp and nfs method, i prefer the latter a lot > >because it means i don't have to cnfigure another service (TFTP) on the > >server: with the current FreeBSD's netboot, you can supply all > >parameters with bootp (which you'd need anyways -- or replace it with > >DHCP i guess) and download the kernel with NFS (which your server > >probably already has). > > I'd have to agree with the bootp/nfs scheme. I use NFS enough that I'm > somewhat familiar with the errors it gives; but everytime something > goes wrong with tftp, I end up groveling through the man-pages and > tcpdump ;-) On the alpha, the firmware uses tftp to load the loader and that uses dhcp and NFS to load the kernel. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jan 14 16:01:54 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA06340 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 16:01:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA06328 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 16:01:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id KAA06786; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 10:30:34 +1030 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) id KAA59516; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 10:30:31 +1030 (CST) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 10:30:31 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Paul Richards Cc: "'Warner Losh'" , FreeBSD current users Subject: Re: A closed developers list (follows on from Thanks Core Team) Message-ID: <19990115103031.P55525@freebie.lemis.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Paul Richards on Thu, Jan 14, 1999 at 01:16:02PM -0000 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thursday, 14 January 1999 at 13:16:02 -0000, Paul Richards wrote: >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Warner Losh [mailto:imp@village.org] >> Sent: Monday, December 28, 1998 7:30 PM >> To: Greg Lehey >> Cc: FreeBSD current users >> Subject: Re: Thanks, Core Team >> >> >> : > -committers is a notorious unproductive and flame-prone place to >> : > discuss code removal. >> >> I have to ***STRONGLY*** disagree with this sentement. -committers >> has been, at times, flame prone. However, many times when I have >> asked for feedback in -committers there is enough good information >> generated, even if there is some flamage. I would like to draw attention to the fact that, though my name appears above, the text that follows is from phk, and that, like Warner, I disagree with it. Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jan 14 17:20:40 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA18682 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 17:20:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fep1-orange.clear.net.nz (fep1-orange.clear.net.nz [203.97.32.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA18674 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 17:20:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jabley@buddha.clear.net.nz) Received: from buddha.clear.net.nz (buddha.clear.net.nz [192.168.24.106]) by fep1-orange.clear.net.nz (1.5/1.11) with ESMTP id OAA16715; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 14:19:24 +1300 (NZDT) Received: (from jabley@localhost) by buddha.clear.net.nz (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA46512; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 14:19:15 +1300 (NZDT) (envelope-from jabley) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 14:19:15 +1300 From: Joe Abley To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: jabley@clear.co.nz Subject: make buildworld break on texinfo Message-ID: <19990115141915.A46495@clear.co.nz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On a very recent (hour-old) source tree, cvsupped from oz: cc -O -pipe -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DLOCALEDIR=\"/usr/share/locale\" -DGNULOCALEDIR=\"/ usr/share/locale\" -DLOCALE_ALIAS_PATH=\"/usr/share/locale:.\" -I/usr/src/gnu/us r.bin/texinfo/libintl/../../../../contrib/texinfo -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo /libintl/../../../../contrib/texinfo/lib -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/libintl/ ../../../../contrib/texinfo/intl -I. -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/ src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/libintl/../../../../contrib/texinfo/intl/gettext.c -o ge ttext.o /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/libintl/../../../../contrib/texinfo/intl/dgettext.c :19: config.h: No such file or directory /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/libintl/../../../../contrib/texinfo/intl/dcgettext. c:19: config.h: No such file or directory /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/libintl/../../../../contrib/texinfo/intl/gettext.c: 19: config.h: No such file or directory /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/libintl/../../../../contrib/texinfo/intl/bindtextdo m.c:19: config.h: No such file or directory *** Error code 1 *** Error code 1 *** Error code 1 *** Error code 1 4 errors *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error Looks like some of those texinfo changes I saw in the "heads up" have issues? Haven't tried re-cvsupping. Will do that. Just FYI in the mean time :) Joe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jan 14 17:24:32 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA19020 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 17:24:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from shell.futuresouth.com (shell.futuresouth.com [198.78.58.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA19015 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 17:24:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fullermd@futuresouth.com) Received: (from fullermd@localhost) by shell.futuresouth.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id TAA23531; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 19:23:07 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <19990114192306.V12236@futuresouth.com> Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 19:23:06 -0600 From: "Matthew D. Fuller" To: obrien@NUXI.com, Paul Richards Cc: FreeBSD current users Subject: Re: A closed developers list (follows on from Thanks Core Team) References: <19990114090638.B84422@relay.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <19990114090638.B84422@relay.nuxi.com>; from David O'Brien on Thu, Jan 14, 1999 at 09:06:38AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Jan 14, 1999 at 09:06:38AM -0800, a little birdie told me that David O'Brien remarked > > I think we should have a closed list for just committers. I can > > We already do. It is called -committers. :-) > -committers is a seperate list from cvs-all, and cvs-*. Most of the > content of -committers makes it to cvs-*. But things can be kept only to > -committers went desired. Does it? I'm on cvs-all (not being a commiter, I'm of course not directly on -committers ;), but I get mails addressed to -committers in my cvs folder. Perhaps some scheme of 'only committers can post to -commiters' (yes, I know all the problems inherent) should be implemented there? --- *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* | Matthew Fuller http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd | * fullermd@futuresouth.com fullermd@over-yonder.net * | UNIX Systems Administrator Specializing in FreeBSD | * FutureSouth Communications ISPHelp ISP Consulting * | "The only reason I'm burning my candle at both ends, | * because I haven't figured out how to light the * | middle yet" | *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jan 14 17:39:14 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA21227 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 17:39:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from axl.noc.iafrica.com (axl.noc.iafrica.com [196.31.1.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA21213 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 17:39:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sheldonh@axl.noc.iafrica.com) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.noc.iafrica.com) by axl.noc.iafrica.com with local-esmtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 100yCT-0004zp-00; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 03:37:25 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: "Matthew D. Fuller" cc: obrien@NUXI.com, Paul Richards , FreeBSD current users Subject: Re: A closed developers list (follows on from Thanks Core Team) In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 14 Jan 1999 19:23:06 CST." <19990114192306.V12236@futuresouth.com> Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 03:37:24 +0200 Message-ID: <19208.916364244@axl.noc.iafrica.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 14 Jan 1999 19:23:06 CST, "Matthew D. Fuller" wrote: > I'm on cvs-all (not being a commiter, I'm of course not directly on > -committers ;), but I get mails addressed to -committers in my cvs > folder. > Perhaps some scheme of 'only committers can post to -commiters' (yes, I > know all the problems inherent) should be implemented there? Hi Matthew, >From your response, it doesn't look like you understood David's message. Here's the important bit again, for your convenience: > > We already do. It is called -committers. :-) > > -committers is a seperate list from cvs-all, and cvs-*. Most of the > > content of -committers makes it to cvs-*. But things can be kept only to > > -committers went desired. All gold glitters, but not all that glitters is gold. Mail related to commits goes to cvs-all and committers. Mail sent by committers to committers goes to committers. Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jan 14 17:43:56 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA21945 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 17:43:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from shell.futuresouth.com (shell.futuresouth.com [198.78.58.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA21935 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 17:43:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fullermd@futuresouth.com) Received: (from fullermd@localhost) by shell.futuresouth.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id TAA24445; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 19:42:19 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <19990114194219.X12236@futuresouth.com> Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 19:42:19 -0600 From: "Matthew D. Fuller" To: Sheldon Hearn Cc: obrien@NUXI.com, Paul Richards , FreeBSD current users Subject: Re: A closed developers list (follows on from Thanks Core Team) References: <19990114192306.V12236@futuresouth.com> <19208.916364244@axl.noc.iafrica.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <19208.916364244@axl.noc.iafrica.com>; from Sheldon Hearn on Fri, Jan 15, 1999 at 03:37:24AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Jan 15, 1999 at 03:37:24AM +0200, a little birdie told me that Sheldon Hearn remarked > > Mail related to commits goes to cvs-all and committers. > Mail sent by committers to committers goes to committers. I get mail sent ONLY to 'commiters@freebsd.org' in my f-cvs folder. I guess I didn't make that distinction clearer... Unless all those mails I got were Bcc'd to cvs-all (which I slightly doubt), then all that glitters IS gold here ;) --- *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* | Matthew Fuller http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd | * fullermd@futuresouth.com fullermd@over-yonder.net * | UNIX Systems Administrator Specializing in FreeBSD | * FutureSouth Communications ISPHelp ISP Consulting * | "The only reason I'm burning my candle at both ends, | * because I haven't figured out how to light the * | middle yet" | *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jan 14 17:47:16 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA22453 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 17:47:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from axl.noc.iafrica.com (axl.noc.iafrica.com [196.31.1.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA22445 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 17:47:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sheldonh@axl.noc.iafrica.com) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.noc.iafrica.com) by axl.noc.iafrica.com with local-esmtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 100yKD-0007Te-00; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 03:45:25 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: "Matthew D. Fuller" cc: obrien@NUXI.com, Paul Richards , FreeBSD current users Subject: Re: A closed developers list (follows on from Thanks Core Team) In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 14 Jan 1999 19:42:19 CST." <19990114194219.X12236@futuresouth.com> Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 03:45:24 +0200 Message-ID: <28744.916364724@axl.noc.iafrica.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 14 Jan 1999 19:42:19 CST, "Matthew D. Fuller" wrote: > I get mail sent ONLY to 'commiters@freebsd.org' in my f-cvs folder. And they're not commit-related e-mails? Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jan 14 17:50:11 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA22801 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 17:50:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from shell.futuresouth.com (shell.futuresouth.com [198.78.58.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA22785 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 17:50:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fullermd@futuresouth.com) Received: (from fullermd@localhost) by shell.futuresouth.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id TAA24856; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 19:48:48 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <19990114194845.Y12236@futuresouth.com> Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 19:48:46 -0600 From: "Matthew D. Fuller" To: Sheldon Hearn Cc: FreeBSD current users Subject: Re: A closed developers list (follows on from Thanks Core Team) References: <19990114194219.X12236@futuresouth.com> <28744.916364724@axl.noc.iafrica.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <28744.916364724@axl.noc.iafrica.com>; from Sheldon Hearn on Fri, Jan 15, 1999 at 03:45:24AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [ Past time to trim CC's ] On Fri, Jan 15, 1999 at 03:45:24AM +0200, a little birdie told me that Sheldon Hearn remarked > > And they're not commit-related e-mails? See appended. ******************************* >From majordom@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 14 19:45:13 1999 Return-Path: Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.18]) by shell.futuresouth.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA24662 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 19:45:12 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: vmailer-cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (VMailer, from userid 1) id 4E738969B; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 17:38:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA21136 for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 17:38:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from enya.clari.net.au (enya.clari.net.au [203.8.14.116]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA21130 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 17:38:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from danny@enya.clari.net.au) Received: from localhost (danny@localhost) by enya.clari.net.au (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA21140; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 12:36:52 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from danny@enya.clari.net.au) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 12:36:52 +1100 (EST) From: "Daniel O'Callaghan" To: Garrett Wollman Cc: committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Y2K compliance question In-Reply-To: <199901150051.TAA26690@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Status: RO Content-Length: 1202 Lines: 32 On Thu, 14 Jan 1999, Garrett Wollman wrote: > We believe that there are no bugs remaining which would cause > erroneous operation of a previously working system; however, there may > be some problems remaining in user-interface functionality and > third-party software. Right now, FreeBSD-current is *NOT* y2k compliant. I know that there *are* bugs remaining. Can I ask people to tone down the statements of y2k compliance which they hand out, please. Perhaps someone with better PR skills than I can dream up some way of saying "most of the y2k problems are sorted out, but we are presently conducting a review of the system and standard software." Since I started my review, I have found y2k problems with tar, cvs, xntpd. Calendar is looking suspicious, and you never know what beasties lurk around the corner. I'm glad that the date for 3.1 has been put back, because I'd like to progress further into the review-and-fix cycle before it is released. I'm not going to get much further without assistance, though. Many thanks to Nathan and Mark who *have* assisted so far. Danny To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message ***************************************** --- *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* | Matthew Fuller http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd | * fullermd@futuresouth.com fullermd@over-yonder.net * | UNIX Systems Administrator Specializing in FreeBSD | * FutureSouth Communications ISPHelp ISP Consulting * | "The only reason I'm burning my candle at both ends, | * because I haven't figured out how to light the * | middle yet" | *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jan 14 17:52:20 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA22969 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 17:52:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from axl.noc.iafrica.com (axl.noc.iafrica.com [196.31.1.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA22964 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 17:52:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sheldonh@axl.noc.iafrica.com) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.noc.iafrica.com) by axl.noc.iafrica.com with local-esmtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 100yPK-0008Lw-00; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 03:50:42 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: "Matthew D. Fuller" cc: obrien@NUXI.com, Paul Richards , FreeBSD current users Subject: Re: A closed developers list (follows on from Thanks Core Team) In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 15 Jan 1999 03:45:24 +0200." <28744.916364724@axl.noc.iafrica.com> Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 03:50:42 +0200 Message-ID: <32111.916365042@axl.noc.iafrica.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 15 Jan 1999 03:45:24 +0200, Sheldon Hearn wrote: > And they're not commit-related e-mails? Bleh, sorry, that was ridiculous. What I should have said is Look at the Sender: header for those messages. Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jan 14 18:29:16 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA27440 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 18:29:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from janus.syracuse.net (janus.syracuse.net [205.232.47.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA27419 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 18:29:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from green@unixhelp.org) Received: from localhost (green@localhost) by janus.syracuse.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA13963; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 21:27:35 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 21:27:35 -0500 (EST) From: Brian Feldman X-Sender: green@janus.syracuse.net To: "Matthew D. Fuller" cc: Sheldon Hearn , FreeBSD current users Subject: Re: A closed developers list (follows on from Thanks Core Team) In-Reply-To: <19990114194845.Y12236@futuresouth.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 14 Jan 1999, Matthew D. Fuller wrote: > [ Past time to trim CC's ] > > On Fri, Jan 15, 1999 at 03:45:24AM +0200, a little birdie told me that Sheldon Hearn remarked > > > > And they're not commit-related e-mails? > > See appended. > > ******************************* > > >From majordom@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 14 19:45:13 1999 > Return-Path: > Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.18]) > by shell.futuresouth.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA24662 > for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 19:45:12 -0600 (CST) > Delivered-To: vmailer-cvs-all@freebsd.org > Received: by hub.freebsd.org (VMailer, from userid 1) > id 4E738969B; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 17:38:21 -0800 (PST) > Received: (from majordom@localhost) > by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA21136 > for cvs-all-outgoing; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 17:38:19 -0800 (PST) > (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) > Received: from enya.clari.net.au (enya.clari.net.au [203.8.14.116]) > by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA21130 > for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 17:38:14 -0800 (PST) > (envelope-from danny@enya.clari.net.au) > Received: from localhost (danny@localhost) > by enya.clari.net.au (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA21140; > Fri, 15 Jan 1999 12:36:52 +1100 (EST) > (envelope-from danny@enya.clari.net.au) > Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 12:36:52 +1100 (EST) > From: "Daniel O'Callaghan" > To: Garrett Wollman > Cc: committers@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: Y2K compliance question > In-Reply-To: <199901150051.TAA26690@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> > Message-ID: > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG > Precedence: bulk > Status: RO > Content-Length: 1202 > Lines: 32 > > > > On Thu, 14 Jan 1999, Garrett Wollman wrote: > > > We believe that there are no bugs remaining which would cause > > erroneous operation of a previously working system; however, there may > > be some problems remaining in user-interface functionality and > > third-party software. > > Right now, FreeBSD-current is *NOT* y2k compliant. I know that there > *are* bugs remaining. > > Can I ask people to tone down the statements of y2k compliance which they > hand out, please. Perhaps someone with better PR skills than I can dream > up some way of saying "most of the y2k problems are sorted out, but we are > presently conducting a review of the system and standard software." > > Since I started my review, I have found y2k problems with tar, cvs, xntpd. > Calendar is looking suspicious, and you never know what beasties lurk > around the corner. Tar {was,is} not written by the FreeBSD or UCB, same as cvs and xntpd. They are not part of FreeBSD the OS, they're part of FreeBSD's set of utilities. > > I'm glad that the date for 3.1 has been put back, because I'd like to > progress further into the review-and-fix cycle before it is released. I'm > not going to get much further without assistance, though. Many thanks to > Nathan and Mark who *have* assisted so far. > > Danny > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message > > > ***************************************** > > --- > > *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* > | Matthew Fuller http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd | > * fullermd@futuresouth.com fullermd@over-yonder.net * > | UNIX Systems Administrator Specializing in FreeBSD | > * FutureSouth Communications ISPHelp ISP Consulting * > | "The only reason I'm burning my candle at both ends, | > * because I haven't figured out how to light the * > | middle yet" | > *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > Brian Feldman _ __ ___ ___ ___ green@unixhelp.org _ __ ___ | _ ) __| \ http://www.freebsd.org/ _ __ ___ ____ | _ \__ \ |) | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! _ __ ___ ____ _____ |___/___/___/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jan 14 18:33:18 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA27912 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 18:33:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gjp.erols.com (alex-va-n008c079.moon.jic.com [206.156.18.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA27902 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 18:33:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gjp@gjp.erols.com) Received: from gjp.erols.com (localhost.erols.com [127.0.0.1]) by gjp.erols.com (8.9.1/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA80111; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 21:31:44 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gjp@gjp.erols.com) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: Brian Feldman cc: "Matthew D. Fuller" , Sheldon Hearn , FreeBSD current users From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: A closed developers list (follows on from Thanks Core Team) In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 14 Jan 1999 21:27:35 EST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 21:31:44 -0500 Message-ID: <80107.916367504@gjp.erols.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Brian Feldman wrote in message ID : > Tar {was,is} not written by the FreeBSD or UCB, same as cvs and xntpd. They > are not part of FreeBSD the OS, they're part of FreeBSD's set of utilities. Something that is under /usr/src should be considered part of `FreeBSD'. The 3rd party stuff in ports we have little control over. The stuff we ship as part of the base system (which, by the way, you can't install freebsd without) should be considered part of ``FreeBSD'' as far as the Y2K statement goes. Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jan 14 20:05:00 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA09771 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 20:05:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from opus.cts.cwu.edu (opus.cts.cwu.edu [198.104.92.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA09761 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 20:04:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from skynyrd@opus.cts.cwu.edu) Received: from localhost (skynyrd@localhost) by opus.cts.cwu.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id UAA22007 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 20:03:47 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 20:03:46 -0800 (PST) From: Chris Timmons Reply-To: Chris Timmons To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: NFS woes: getting worse? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have duplicated on two pairs of machines a case whereby you have two -current machines as of ~20:00 UTC 1999/Jan/14 which cannot interoperate via NFS without corruption. To repeat: create a ports tree on one, mount it on the other. Have the client 'cd /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-contrib; make'. As soon as it extracts the distfile and starts working, it blows up: ===> Configuring for XFree86-contrib-3.3.3 mv -f Makefile Makefile.bak imake -DUseInstalled -I/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config make Makefiles making Makefiles in programs... mv -f Makefile Makefile.bak making Makefiles in programs/ico... mv -f Makefile Makefile.bak make: don't know how to make Makefiles. Stop making Makefiles in programs/listres... mv -f Makefile Makefile.bak etc..... Softupdates and version -2 mounts do not affect the problem, and it builds fine on a local disk. I have done some work with ktrace and tcpdump and can see that files are being returned shorter from the NFS server than they really are. For example, on the server machine's local disk, ktrace showed one file read this way: 14820 make RET read 0 14820 make RET read 8192/0x2000 14820 make RET read 8192/0x2000 14820 make RET read 2845/0xb1d 14820 make RET read 0 On the client side, I isolated the same part of the corresponding ktrace and saw that it got: 13748 make RET read 0 13748 make RET read 512/0x200 13748 make RET read 512/0x200 13748 make RET read 512/0x200 13748 make RET read 512/0x200 13748 make RET read 512/0x200 13748 make RET read 512/0x200 13748 make RET read 512/0x200 13748 make RET read 512/0x200 13748 make RET read 512/0x200 13748 make RET read 512/0x200 13748 make RET read 512/0x200 13748 make RET read 512/0x200 13748 make RET read 512/0x200 13748 make RET read 512/0x200 13748 make RET read 512/0x200 13748 make RET read 512/0x200 13748 make RET read 512/0x200 13748 make RET read 512/0x200 13748 make RET read 512/0x200 13748 make RET read 512/0x200 13748 make RET read 512/0x200 13748 make RET read 512/0x200 13748 make RET read 512/0x200 13748 make RET read 512/0x200 13748 make RET read 512/0x200 13748 make RET read 512/0x200 13748 make RET read 512/0x200 13748 make RET read 512/0x200 13748 make RET read 512/0x200 13748 make RET read 512/0x200 13748 make RET read 512/0x200 13748 make RET read 512/0x200 13748 make RET read 512/0x200 13748 make RET read 512/0x200 13748 make RET read 512/0x200 13748 make RET read 114/0x72 13748 make RET read 0 18034 bytes read by the NFS client, 19229 bytes read on the local system! The file shown in the kdump output above is "Makefile" (see path below), and we can see that it's true size is 19229. This is just one instance of the problem. skynyrd:/usr/ports/x11/XFree86-contrib/work/contrib#> ls -l programs/ico/ total 64 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 282 Jun 4 1994 Imakefile -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 19229 Jan 14 19:53 Makefile SO, it looks like there is some sort of arithmetic error going on? I have copious amounts of debugging info here, but have to run at the moment. If someone else can reproduce the problem I can send-pr all of it.... Sigh. -Chris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jan 14 20:13:59 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA10594 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 20:13:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from palrel1.hp.com (palrel1.hp.com [156.153.255.242]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA10547; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 20:13:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from piet@cup.hp.com) Received: from hpfsvr02.cup.hp.com (root@hpfsvr02.cup.hp.com [15.28.74.198]) by palrel1.hp.com (8.8.6/8.8.5tis) with ESMTP id UAA13222; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 20:09:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from hpfsvr02 (piet@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hpfsvr02.cup.hp.com with SMTP (8.8.6/8.7.3 TIS Messaging 5.0) id UAA25388; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 20:09:04 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <369EBF5F.23AC@cup.hp.com> Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 20:09:03 -0800 From: Piet Delaney Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; HP-UX B.10.20 9000/770) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dg@root.com, ckempf@enigami.com CC: piet@hpfsvr02.cup.hp.com, piet@piet.net, obrien@nuxi.com, tef@postgres.dtcom.dp.ua, joe@monk.via.ne, stevet@acs.stritch.edu, casanoba@ailab10.sogang.ac.kr, fischer@nwe.ufl.edu, stealth-admin@viaduk.net, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, gibbs@FreeBSD.ORG, edmond@shaman.cup.hp.com, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG, jack@rome.cs.miami.edu, deischen@iworks.InterWorks.org, hank@wsm.com, xiyuan@npc.haplink.com.cn, gigabyte@tpts1.seed.net.tw, info-gbt@giga-byte.com, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, dg@root.com, nasir@asacomputers.com, rwm@tansoft.com, oblio@eyeintegrated.com, mango@staff.communique.net Subject: Looking for Suggestion on Booting FreeBSD 3.0 on a Gigabyte GA-6BXDS board with Dual Pentiun II and Adaptec 7895 Ultra Wide SCSI-3 Controlers Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi David, Cory, Dave, Folks: I thought it was about time to try out FreeBSD, most likely 3.0, so I picked up a PC board from Gigabyte, the GA-6BXDS Dual Scsi-3 that has an onboard Adaptec 7895 controler. About a year ago you (David) said Justin was working on a 7895 scsi controler. I didn't see anything in the FreeBSD handbook on support for the Adaptic 7895 (seems to be getting rather out of date). Now I've read from Cory that you need a CAM scsi driver. Last I see it was still only available as patches. Why is it taking so long to get it integrated into the current src? So I have to get an IDE drive and install onto that, get the CAM patches (from where?), run patch, etc... and linux supports it a standard controler? I can't believe this. Perhaps you could update me on the 7895 support and perhaps have some suggestion on setting up this board to run FreeBSD. For example can I boot the 3.0 FreeBSD off of a CDROM on the scsi adapters; I sort of doubt it. Is the FreeBSD getting the information it needs from Gigabyte and Adaptec so that these boards are well supported? -piet To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jan 14 20:16:36 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA11019 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 20:16:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA11012 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 20:16:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA03131; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 20:10:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199901150410.UAA03131@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Chris Timmons cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NFS woes: getting worse? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 14 Jan 1999 20:03:46 PST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 20:10:34 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > SO, it looks like there is some sort of arithmetic error going on? I have > copious amounts of debugging info here, but have to run at the moment. If > someone else can reproduce the problem I can send-pr all of it.... At this point, filing a PR is not going to help much. Diving into the code and working out what's going wrong is what it's going to take. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jan 14 21:43:36 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA22651 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 21:43:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from beast.freibergnet.de (beast.freibergnet.de [194.123.255.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA22605; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 21:43:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mw@freibergnet.de) Received: from io.freibergnet.de (io.freibergnet.de [194.123.255.11]) by beast.freibergnet.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA12426; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 06:32:31 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mw@freibergnet.de) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <369EBF5F.23AC@cup.hp.com> Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 06:32:20 +0100 (CET) Reply-To: mw@freibergnet.de Organization: FreibergNet Liebscher & Partner Werbeagentur und XLink-PoP Freiberg From: Martin Welk To: Piet Delaney Subject: RE: Looking for Suggestion on Booting FreeBSD 3.0 on a Gigabyte Cc: mango@staff.communique.net, oblio@eyeintegrated.com, rwm@tansoft.com, nasir@asacomputers.com, info-gbt@giga-byte.com, gigabyte@tpts1.seed.net.tw, xiyuan@npc.haplink.com.cn, hank@wsm.com, deischen@iworks.InterWorks.org, jack@rome.cs.miami.edu, current@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, edmond@shaman.cup.hp.com, gibbs@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, stealth-admin@viaduk.net, fischer@nwe.ufl.edu, casanoba@ailab10.sogang.ac.kr, stevet@acs.stritch.edu, joe@monk.via.ne, tef@postgres.dtcom.dp.ua, obrien@nuxi.com, piet@piet.net, piet@hpfsvr02.cup.hp.com, ckempf@enigami.com, dg@root.com Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 15-Jan-99 Piet Delaney wrote: () I thought it was about time to try out () FreeBSD, most likely 3.0, so I picked up a PC () board from Gigabyte, the GA-6BXDS Dual Scsi-3 () that has an onboard Adaptec 7895 controler. () About a year ago you (David) said Justin was working () on a 7895 scsi controler. I didn't see anything () in the FreeBSD handbook on support for the Adaptic () 7895 (seems to be getting rather out of date). () Now I've read from Cory that you need a CAM scsi () driver. Last I see it was still only available as () patches. Why is it taking so long to get it integrated () into the current src? So I have to get an IDE drive and () install onto that, get the CAM patches (from where?), () run patch, etc... and linux supports it a standard () controler? I can't believe this. 3.0-RELEASE and newer uses CAM as default supporting 7895 and a bunch of other newer Adaptec chipsets. We have three machines here with an Asus P2B-S motherboard that run fine. We have recently upgraded all of them to the 3.0-CURRENT tree as we run a local CVS archive. Seems like your information is pretty old. We have decided to use -CURRENT for what is usually called a "production machine" that wonŽt run very critical applications these days (our own fax server, our own news server, experimental database server). So we will see if it runs "stable enough" for our purpose. For now, it looks very good and we didn't experience any serious problems yet. () Perhaps you could update me on the 7895 support () and perhaps have some suggestion on setting up this () board to run FreeBSD. For example can I boot the () 3.0 FreeBSD off of a CDROM on the scsi adapters; () I sort of doubt it. My 3.0-RELEASE CD-ROM had no problems booting on the machines mentioned above. They also had no problems with running a custom install :-) Look at http://www.freebsd.org/ (which is always a good starting point for asking most main questions about FreeBSD) at the release information for 3.0. It says: 1. What's new since 2.2.X-RELEASE --------------------------------- All changes described here are unique to the 3.0 branch unless specifically marked as [MERGED] features. 1.1. KERNEL CHANGES ------------------- o The 2.2.x SCSI subsystem has been almost entirely replaced with a new "CAM" (Common Access Method) SCSI system which offers improved performance, better error recovery and support for more SCSI controllers. (and it says more, of course, but I didnŽt to quote that all) There is also a 2.2-CAM tree available, but I have no experiences with that, look at ftp.freebsd.org. Regards, Martin -- FreibergNet Systemhaus GbR Martin Welk * Sales, Support Systemhaus für Daten- und Netzwerktechnik phone +49 3731 781387 Unternehmensgruppe Liebscher & Partner fax +49 3731 781377 D-09599 Freiberg * Am St. Niclas Schacht 13 http://www.freibergnet.de/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jan 14 22:01:48 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA24620 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 22:01:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pozo.pozo.com (pozo.pozo.com [207.201.8.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA24607; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 22:01:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mantar@netcom.com) Received: from dual (DUAL [192.168.0.2]) by pozo.pozo.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id WAA00448; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 22:00:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mantar@netcom.com) Message-Id: <4.1.19990114214433.00a184b0@192.168.0.1> X-Sender: null@192.168.0.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 22:00:20 -0800 To: current@FreeBSD.ORG From: Manfred Antar Subject: Changes to ahc driver broke kernel Cc: gibbs@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG There were some changes made to ahc driver made on 1/13/99 And i can no longer boot a current kernel A kernel from 1/12/99 works fine When booting after : SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched It stalls for awhile and then I get these messages (probe4:ahc0:0:4:0) SCB 0x5 timed out in message phase SEQADDR == 0x155 (probe4:ahc0:0:4:0) BDR message in message buffer ahc0: Issued Channel A Bus Reset. 3 SCBs aborted and on and on This is a Intel PR440FX with builtin adaptec scsi and dual PPro processors Also on board is a DPT SCSI PM2124A Raid controller (no RAID drives). The adaptec usually has a cdrom hooked to it, sometime a exabyte and aux harddrive FreeBSD is installed on the disk controlled by the DPT Thanks Manfred ===================== || mantar@netcom.com || || pozo@infinex.com || || Ph. (415) 681-6235 || ===================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jan 14 22:16:09 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA26258 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 22:16:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gratis.grondar.za (gratis.grondar.za [196.7.18.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA26253 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 22:16:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from greenpeace.grondar.za (greenpeace.grondar.za [196.7.18.132]) by gratis.grondar.za (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA02349; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 08:14:50 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grondar.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by greenpeace.grondar.za (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id IAA90907; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 08:14:48 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Message-Id: <199901150614.IAA90907@greenpeace.grondar.za> To: Pascal Hofstee cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Current doesn't build in texinfo In-Reply-To: Your message of " Thu, 14 Jan 1999 22:38:14 +0100." References: Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 08:14:47 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Pascal Hofstee wrote: > config.h: No such file or directory > *** Error code 1 Fixed! M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jan 14 22:18:30 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA26641 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 22:18:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gratis.grondar.za (gratis.grondar.za [196.7.18.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA26636 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 22:18:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from greenpeace.grondar.za (greenpeace.grondar.za [196.7.18.132]) by gratis.grondar.za (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA02359; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 08:17:08 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grondar.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by greenpeace.grondar.za (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id IAA90959; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 08:17:07 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Message-Id: <199901150617.IAA90959@greenpeace.grondar.za> To: Joe Abley cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make buildworld break on texinfo In-Reply-To: Your message of " Fri, 15 Jan 1999 14:19:15 +1300." <19990115141915.A46495@clear.co.nz> References: <19990115141915.A46495@clear.co.nz> Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 08:17:07 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Joe Abley wrote: > m.c:19: config.h: No such file or directory > *** Error code 1 Fixed. M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jan 14 22:35:09 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA28422 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 22:35:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from vader.cs.berkeley.edu (vader.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.38.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA28409 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 22:35:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asami@vader.cs.berkeley.edu) Received: from silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (sji-ca13-168.ix.netcom.com [209.109.238.168]) by vader.cs.berkeley.edu (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA06340; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 22:33:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (8.9.1/8.6.9) id WAA24937; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 22:33:24 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 22:33:24 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199901150633.WAA24937@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> To: skynyrd@opus.cts.cwu.edu CC: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: (message from Chris Timmons on Thu, 14 Jan 1999 20:03:46 -0800 (PST)) Subject: Re: NFS woes: getting worse? From: asami@FreeBSD.ORG (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * From: Chris Timmons * make: don't know how to make Makefiles. Stop I've seen similar things, but they went away when I reduced the load (other compilations in my case) on the server. How busy is your server? Satoshi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jan 14 23:00:35 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA01405 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 23:00:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pluto.plutotech.com (mail.plutotech.com [206.168.67.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA01400; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 23:00:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gibbs@plutotech.com) Received: from narnia.plutotech.com (narnia.plutotech.com [206.168.67.130]) by pluto.plutotech.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA06004; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 23:59:20 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from gibbs@plutotech.com) Message-Id: <199901150659.XAA06004@pluto.plutotech.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Manfred Antar cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, gibbs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Changes to ahc driver broke kernel In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 14 Jan 1999 22:00:20 PST." <4.1.19990114214433.00a184b0@192.168.0.1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 23:51:12 -0700 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >There were some changes made to ahc driver made on 1/13/99 >And i can no longer boot a current kernel You'll have to give me more information so that I can reproduce the problem here. A good start would be to send a complete dmesg from the system using a kernel that boots correctly for you. -- Justin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jan 14 23:20:26 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA03222 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 23:20:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from frolic.no-support.loc (ppp39-120.hrz.uni-bielefeld.de [129.70.39.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA03212 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 23:20:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bfischer@Techfak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE) Received: (from bjoern@localhost) by frolic.no-support.loc (8.9.1/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) id HAA46115; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 07:27:33 +0100 (CET) From: Bjoern Fischer Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 07:27:32 +0100 To: Chris Timmons Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NFS woes: getting worse? Message-ID: <19990115072732.A983@frolic.no-support.loc> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: ; from Chris Timmons on Thu, Jan 14, 1999 at 08:03:46PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Jan 14, 1999 at 08:03:46PM -0800, Chris Timmons wrote: > > I have duplicated on two pairs of machines a case whereby you have two > -current machines as of ~20:00 UTC 1999/Jan/14 which cannot interoperate > via NFS without corruption. > [...] > 18034 bytes read by the NFS client, 19229 bytes read on the local system! > > The file shown in the kdump output above is "Makefile" (see path below), > and we can see that it's true size is 19229. This is just one instance of > the problem. [...] Same problems here -- or even worse. Running -current on a NFS-server and several diskless clients attached to it (I like the silence at my desk), I get truncated files and NFS-writes with a lot of ^@^@^@^@^@ and some other garbage in it. The ^@^@^@^@^@-pages stuff seems to be reported as a kernel bug already. I tried several options: NFS-3/2, tcp/udp, hard/soft, (w/o) intr -- without success. At the time (src-cur.3702.gz/~12th Jan) even vi is not usable at all on the client side with a couple of files. Being very busy at the moment I don't have time to track this down myself. Bjoern To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jan 15 00:06:04 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA08224 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 00:06:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from vader.cs.berkeley.edu (vader.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.38.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA08215; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 00:06:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asami@vader.cs.berkeley.edu) Received: from silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (sji-ca13-168.ix.netcom.com [209.109.238.168]) by vader.cs.berkeley.edu (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA06413; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 00:04:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (8.9.1/8.6.9) id AAA25280; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 00:04:48 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 00:04:48 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199901150804.AAA25280@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> To: markm@FreeBSD.ORG CC: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: another texinfo buglet? From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I cvsupped a couple of times, even blew away the entire contrib/texinfo and gnu/usr.bin/texinfo in the middle but I still get this.... ======= ===> makeinfo cc -O -pipe -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DLOCALEDIR=\"/usr/share/local\" -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/makeinfo/../../../../contrib/texinfo/makeinfo -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/makeinfo/../../../../contrib/texinfo -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/makeinfo/../../../../contrib/texinfo/lib -I../libintl -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/makeinfo/../../../../contrib/texinfo/makeinfo/makeinfo.c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/makeinfo/../../../../contrib/texinfo/makeinfo/makeinfo.c: In function `xrealloc': /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/makeinfo/../../../../contrib/texinfo/makeinfo/makeinfo.c:1205: parse error before `void' : ======= Satoshi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jan 15 00:13:54 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA09292 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 00:13:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from vader.cs.berkeley.edu (vader.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.38.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA09287 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 00:13:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asami@vader.cs.berkeley.edu) Received: from silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (sji-ca13-168.ix.netcom.com [209.109.238.168]) by vader.cs.berkeley.edu (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA06423; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 00:11:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (8.9.1/8.6.9) id AAA25308; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 00:11:24 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 00:11:24 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199901150811.AAA25308@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> To: skynyrd@opus.cts.cwu.edu, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <199901150633.WAA24937@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> (asami@FreeBSD.ORG) Subject: Re: NFS woes: getting worse? From: asami@FreeBSD.ORG (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * From: asami@FreeBSD.ORG (Satoshi Asami) * * * From: Chris Timmons * * * make: don't know how to make Makefiles. Stop * * I've seen similar things, but they went away when I reduced the load * (other compilations in my case) on the server. How busy is your * server? Forgot to mention, this happens with a read-only NFS tree too. I was running builds on the client with a shared /usr/ports and WRKDIRPREFIX pointing to a local directory, and the build will topple over in the middle unable to find a Makefile on the server or something. That is the problem that went away with the server load. Satoshi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jan 15 00:22:16 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA09794 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 00:22:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from apollo.backplane.com (apollo.backplane.com [209.157.86.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA09788; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 00:22:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA35744; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 00:21:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 00:21:03 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <199901150821.AAA35744@apollo.backplane.com> To: asami@FreeBSD.ORG (Satoshi Asami) Cc: skynyrd@opus.cts.cwu.edu, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NFS woes: getting worse? Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :Forgot to mention, this happens with a read-only NFS tree too. I was :running builds on the client with a shared /usr/ports and WRKDIRPREFIX :pointing to a local directory, and the build will topple over in the :middle unable to find a Makefile on the server or something. : :That is the problem that went away with the server load. : :Satoshi I am running a Dec 24th CVS tree while working on the first set of VM commits. I've been using read-only NFS mounts of /usr/src on diskless workstations in order to do make -j6 buildworld runs on them ( /usr/obj being a big 300 MB MFS filesystem on the same workstation, swap-backed, where swap itself is BOOTP NFS based swap). I have not experienced any NFS corruption at all, so whatever blew NFS up must have been committed after Dec 24th. Note that I *AM* using luoqi's VFS/BIO patches, which fixed the msdosfs mount-after-ufs-mount-attempt crash. I'll have time to help track down the NFS problems after the tree splits and I can commit the new swapper, but I can't update my tree until then. -Matt Matthew Dillon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jan 15 00:34:58 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA10865 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 00:34:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ftp.dns.ne.jp (ftp.dns.ne.jp [210.155.3.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA10860 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 00:34:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tanimura@sakuramail.com) Received: from silver.carrots (yksk0239.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp [210.131.91.151]) by ftp.dns.ne.jp (8.9.2/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA06180; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 17:33:39 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by silver.carrots (8.9.1/3.7W) with ESMTP id RAA36824; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 17:33:38 +0900 (JST) To: mark@grondar.za Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: typo in src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/makeinfo/Makefile From: Seigo TANIMURA X-Mailer: Mew version 1.93 on Emacs 19.34 / Mule 2.3 (SUETSUMUHANA) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19990115173337C.tanimura@silver> Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 17:33:37 +0900 X-Dispatcher: imput version 980905(IM100) Lines: 14 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > silver% cat /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/makeinfo/Makefile > # $Id: Makefile,v 1.8 1999/01/14 20:00:46 markm Exp $ (snip) > CFLAGS+= -DLOCALEDIR=\"/usr/share/local\" ^^^^^ this should be 'locale'... Seigo TANIMURA |M1, Nakagawa Lab, Dept of Electronics & CS =========================|Faculty of Engineering, Yokohama National Univ Powered by SIEMENS, |http://www.naklab.dnj.ynu.ac.jp/~tanimura/ FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT |http://www.sakura.ne.jp/~tcarrot/ (2nd Jan 1999) & muesli. |tanimura@naklab.dnj.ynu.ac.jp tcarrot@sakuramail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jan 15 00:45:51 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA11696 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 00:45:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from vader.cs.berkeley.edu (vader.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.38.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA11691; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 00:45:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asami@vader.cs.berkeley.edu) Received: from silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (sji-ca13-168.ix.netcom.com [209.109.238.168]) by vader.cs.berkeley.edu (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA06452; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 00:44:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (8.9.1/8.6.9) id AAA25441; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 00:44:32 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 00:44:32 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199901150844.AAA25441@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> To: markm@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <199901150804.AAA25280@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> (asami@cs.berkeley.edu) Subject: Re: another texinfo buglet? From: asami@FreeBSD.ORG (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * ======= * ===> makeinfo * cc -O -pipe -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DLOCALEDIR=\"/usr/share/local\" -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/makeinfo/../../../../contrib/texinfo/makeinfo -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/makeinfo/../../../../contrib/texinfo -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/makeinfo/../../../../contrib/texinfo/lib -I../libintl -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/makeinfo/../../../../contrib/texinfo/makeinfo/makeinfo.c * /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/makeinfo/../../../../contrib/texinfo/makeinfo/makeinfo.c: In function `xrealloc': * /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/makeinfo/../../../../contrib/texinfo/makeinfo/makeinfo.c:1205: parse error before `void' * : * ======= I looked into it a bit more. This file is definitely corrupted. These are the lines around 1205: === /* Like realloc (), but barfs if there isn't enough memory. */ void * xrealloc (pointer, nbytes) void *pointer; unsigned int nbytes; { void *temp; if (!pointer) temp = (void *)xmalloc (nbytes); else temp = (void *)realloc (pointer, nbytes); /* If EXIT_VALUE is zero, print the full usage message to stdout. Otherwise, just say to use --help for more info. Then exit with EXIT_VALUE. */ void <======= 1205 usage (exit_value) int exit_value; { if (exit_value != 0) fprintf (stderr, _("Try `%s --help' for more information.\n"), progname); else printf (_("Usage: %s [OPTION]... TEXINFO-FILE...\n\ === Line 1205 is the "void" before usage(). It looks like (at least) the second half of xrealloc() is missing. Satoshi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jan 15 01:19:55 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA14875 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 01:19:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from top.worldcontrol.com (snblitz.sc.scruznet.com [165.227.132.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA14870 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 01:19:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brian@worldcontrol.com) From: brian@worldcontrol.com Received: (qmail 2576 invoked by uid 100); 15 Jan 1999 09:31:16 -0000 Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 01:31:16 -0800 To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Which sound card now? Message-ID: <19990115013116.A2546@top.worldcontrol.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Some weeks or days ago my GUS MAX (non-PnP) became a relic when Voxware was axed from FreeBSD. Eventhough, Voxware was reinstated, I diligently went about finding a "Luigi-Approved" sound card. After weeks of research I came to the conclusion that the 'Aopen AW 37 Pro' was the card of choice. I then set about ordering 2. Two different companies have told me that the card is no longer made. So I am now mostly back the square 1. I'm still using an old GUS MAX, which at the whim of FreeBSD-core may suddenly stop working. And I have no idea what modern card will be reasonably well supported under pcm0. Does anyone have any suggestions? -- Brian Litzinger To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jan 15 01:27:23 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA15629 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 01:27:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from vader.cs.berkeley.edu (vader.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.38.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA15624 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 01:27:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asami@vader.cs.berkeley.edu) Received: from silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (sji-ca13-168.ix.netcom.com [209.109.238.168]) by vader.cs.berkeley.edu (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA06490; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 01:26:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (8.9.1/8.6.9) id BAA25550; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 01:26:05 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 01:26:05 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199901150926.BAA25550@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> To: brian@worldcontrol.com CC: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <19990115013116.A2546@top.worldcontrol.com> (brian@worldcontrol.com) Subject: Re: Which sound card now? From: asami@FreeBSD.ORG (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * From: brian@worldcontrol.com * So I am now mostly back the square 1. I'm still using an old GUS MAX, * which at the whim of FreeBSD-core may suddenly stop working. Just one point -- the axing of voxware was *not* approved by FreeBSD-core, and that's why it has been brought back. Satoshi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jan 15 01:40:12 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA16815 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 01:40:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from buffy.tpgi.com.au (buffy.tpgi.com.au [203.12.160.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA16806; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 01:40:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eirvine@tpgi.com.au) Received: (from smtpd@localhost) by buffy.tpgi.com.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA22119; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 20:41:54 +1100 Received: from kmidc71-132.ecopost.com.au(203.28.71.132), claiming to be "tpgi.com.au" via SMTP by buffy.tpgi.com.au, id smtpda22100; Fri Jan 15 20:41:49 1999 Message-ID: <369F0CBE.3E20E9AE@tpgi.com.au> Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 20:39:11 +1100 From: Eddie Irvine X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Satoshi Asami CC: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: another texinfo buglet? References: <199901150844.AAA25441@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'll third that. Eddie. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jan 15 02:07:12 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA19253 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 02:07:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from isbalham.ist.co.uk (isbalham.ist.co.uk [192.31.26.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA19248 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 02:07:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rb@gid.co.uk) Received: from gid.co.uk (uucp@localhost) by isbalham.ist.co.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with UUCP id KAA09265; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 10:05:50 GMT (envelope-from rb@gid.co.uk) Received: from localhost by seagoon.gid.co.uk; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 10:04:00 GMT Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 10:04:00 +0000 (GMT) From: Bob Bishop X-Sender: rb@seagoon To: Bjoern Fischer cc: Chris Timmons , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NFS woes: getting worse? In-Reply-To: <19990115072732.A983@frolic.no-support.loc> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, On Fri, 15 Jan 1999, Bjoern Fischer wrote: > On Thu, Jan 14, 1999 at 08:03:46PM -0800, Chris Timmons wrote: > > > > I have duplicated on two pairs of machines a case whereby you have two > > -current machines as of ~20:00 UTC 1999/Jan/14 which cannot interoperate > > via NFS without corruption. > > > [...] > > 18034 bytes read by the NFS client, 19229 bytes read on the local system! > > > > The file shown in the kdump output above is "Makefile" (see path below), > > and we can see that it's true size is 19229. This is just one instance of > > the problem. > [...] > > Same problems here -- or even worse. > > Running -current on a NFS-server and several diskless clients > attached to it (I like the silence at my desk), I get truncated > files and NFS-writes with a lot of ^@^@^@^@^@ and some other > garbage in it. I'm seeing the same thing with src-cur.3700, ~10 Jan. Doing `make depend' for the kernel I get the ^@^@+crap towards the end of .depend, and it's completely repeatable. Guess I'll see what tcpdump has to say unless someone can suggest something more effective. The server is otherwise unloaded, so I guess load isn't a factor. FWIW, the client is a rather faster machine than the server and the link is 10Mb. -- Bob Bishop +44 118 977 4017 rb@gid.co.uk fax +44 118 989 4254 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jan 15 03:13:41 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA25284 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 03:13:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA25279 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 03:13:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from localhost (dfr@localhost) by nlsystems.com (8.9.1/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA22868; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 11:13:09 GMT Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 11:13:09 +0000 (GMT) From: Doug Rabson To: Nicolas Souchu cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ZIP+ detection, need testers for the patch In-Reply-To: <19990115001347.00530@breizh.prism.uvsq.fr> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 15 Jan 1999, Nicolas Souchu wrote: > Hi there, > > Currently, the ZIP+ probe is intrusive and sends char to the printer if > no ZIP+ is connected. > > Here is a patch that corrects the problem for my printer, but I haven't > any ZIP+ :) > > So, please check the ZIP+ is still detected. With this patch, I can *not* detect my ZIP+ (attached to a machine which detects it using the existing code). -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jan 15 04:04:31 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA29966 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 04:04:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA29703 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 04:03:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id KAA01885; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 10:57:38 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199901150957.KAA01885@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: Which sound card now? To: brian@worldcontrol.com Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 10:57:38 +0100 (MET) Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19990115013116.A2546@top.worldcontrol.com> from "brian@worldcontrol.com" at Jan 15, 99 01:30:57 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Eventhough, Voxware was reinstated, I diligently went about finding > a "Luigi-Approved" sound card. > > After weeks of research I came to the conclusion that the > 'Aopen AW 37 Pro' was the card of choice. ... > And I have no idea what modern card will be reasonably well supported > under pcm0. I have had good success recently with Yamaha ISA cards, e.g. YMF715 or YMF719. luigi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jan 15 04:12:14 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA02696 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 04:12:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA02632 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 04:12:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id LAA01913; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 11:04:16 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199901151004.LAA01913@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: Which sound card now? To: brian@worldcontrol.com Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 11:04:16 +0100 (MET) Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19990115013116.A2546@top.worldcontrol.com> from "brian@worldcontrol.com" at Jan 15, 99 01:30:57 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > And I have no idea what modern card will be reasonably well supported > under pcm0. > > Does anyone have any suggestions? Followup: Dru Nelson was so kind to post me the details of his research on this subject and told me the following: > I just went to Central Computer www.centralcomputer.com. > They are close to where I work. > > AXRA 16 Yamaha 719 3D Sound.......................$15.95 > J-Bond MF-719 Yamaha 3D OPL-3 w Midi..............$36 > ESS 16 IDE 3D Sound Card..........................$14 > Television:TeleSound EX16 IDE.....................$68 > USSA ASW192 PCI Sound Card........................$24.95 > Yamaha Wave Force 192XG PCI Sound Card oem........$32 > of the above, i think the first two can work reasonably well; the ESS might work (with the recent patches) for listening to mpeg audio, whereas the Yamaha PCI do not work because Yamaha are not disclosing programming info on them. cheers luigi -----------------------------------+------------------------------------- Luigi RIZZO . EMAIL: luigi@iet.unipi.it . Dip. di Ing. dell'Informazione HTTP://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ . Universita` di Pisa TEL/FAX: +39-050-568.533/522 . via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) -----------------------------------+------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jan 15 04:27:14 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA04228 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 04:27:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from host.phc.igs.net (host.phc.igs.net [207.210.17.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA04223 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 04:27:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eagle@phc.igs.net) From: eagle@phc.igs.net Received: from phc.igs.net ([207.210.17.117]) by host.phc.igs.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA12368 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 07:33:12 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199901151233.HAA12368@host.phc.igs.net> Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 07:23:21 -0500 (EST) Subject: MAKEWORLD fails at texinfo To: current@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I../lib -I../intl -DLOCALEDIR=\"/usr/local/share/locale\" -g -O2 -c makeinfo.c makeinfo.c: In function `xrealloc': makeinfo.c:1205: parse error before `void' makeinfo.c:1209: `exit_value' undeclared (first use this function) makeinfo.c:1209: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once makeinfo.c:1209: for each function it appears in.) makeinfo.c:1252: parse error before `typedef' makeinfo.c: At top level: makeinfo.c:1254: warning: data definition has no type or storage class makeinfo.c:1259: parse error before `*' makeinfo.c: In function `reverse_list': makeinfo.c:1261: parse error before `*' makeinfo.c:1261: declaration for parameter `GENERIC_LIST' but no such parameter makeinfo.c:1263: syntax error before `*' makeinfo.c:1264: syntax error before `*' makeinfo.c:1268: `next' undeclared (first use this function) makeinfo.c:1268: invalid type argument of `->' makeinfo.c:1269: invalid type argument of `->' makeinfo.c:1269: `prev' undeclared (first use this function) *** Error code 1 this was cvsupped at 7:15 a.m on the 15th using the standard-supfile as found in /usr/share/examples RG To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jan 15 04:32:15 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA05020 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 04:32:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Wit401305.student.utwente.nl (wit401305.student.utwente.nl [130.89.236.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA05015 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 04:32:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from daeron@Wit401305.student.utwente.nl) Received: from localhost (daeron@localhost) by Wit401305.student.utwente.nl (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA85705; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 13:30:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from daeron@Wit401305.student.utwente.nl) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 13:30:14 +0100 (CET) From: Pascal Hofstee To: eagle@phc.igs.net cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: MAKEWORLD fails at texinfo In-Reply-To: <199901151233.HAA12368@host.phc.igs.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 15 Jan 1999 eagle@phc.igs.net wrote: > gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I../lib -I../intl -DLOCALEDIR=\"/usr/local/share/locale\" -g -O2 -c makeinfo.c > makeinfo.c: In function `xrealloc': > makeinfo.c:1205: parse error before `void' > makeinfo.c:1209: `exit_value' undeclared (first use this function) > makeinfo.c:1209: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once > makeinfo.c:1209: for each function it appears in.) > makeinfo.c:1252: parse error before `typedef' ... ... > makeinfo.c:1269: invalid type argument of `->' > makeinfo.c:1269: `prev' undeclared (first use this function) > *** Error code 1 > > this was cvsupped at 7:15 a.m on the 15th using the standard-supfile as > found in /usr/share/examples This is the exact same problem Satoshi already mentioned earlier today ... I am experiencing the exact same thing ... someway makeinfo.c got screwed up .. missing half of the xrealloc-function -------------------- Pascal Hofstee - daeron@shadowmere.student.utwente.nl -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GCS d- s+: a-- C++ UB++++ P+ L- E--- W- N+ o? K- w--- O? M V? PS+ PE Y-- PGP-- t+ 5 X-- R tv+ b+ DI D- G e* h+ r- y+ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jan 15 05:51:52 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA16337 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 05:51:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from polaris.we.lc.ehu.es (polaris.we.lc.ehu.es [158.227.6.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA16301 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 05:51:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jose@we.lc.ehu.es) Received: from we.lc.ehu.es (tiburon [158.227.6.111]) by polaris.we.lc.ehu.es (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA21575 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 14:50:08 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <369F478E.F9F2AA82@we.lc.ehu.es> Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 14:50:07 +0100 From: "José Mª Alcaide" Organization: Universidad del País Vasco - Dept. de Electricidad y Electrónica X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: pcm: mixer's synth and cd devices are swapped (Yamaha OPL card) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have found that the mixer has the volume controls for the synth and cd devices swapped. Strangely, this swap does not affect the recording source selection ("mixer =rec cd" properly sets the CD as recording device). I have tested this using mixer(8), xmmix and kmix, so the problem resides in the mixer device. This is my hardware configuration (from kernel's boot messages): Probing for PnP devices: CSN 1 Vendor ID: YMH0800 [0x0008a865] Serial 0xffffffff Comp ID: PNPb02f [0x2fb0d041] mss_attach 1 at 0xe80 irq 5 dma 0:1 flags 0x11 setting up yamaha registers set yamaha master volume to max pcm1 (CS423x/Yamaha/AD1816 sn 0xffffffff) at 0xe80-0xe87 irq 5 drq 0 flags 0x11 on isa I filed a problem report (kern/9487). -- JMA ----------------------------------------------------------------------- José Mª Alcaide | mailto:jose@we.lc.ehu.es Universidad del País Vasco | http://www.we.lc.ehu.es/~jose Dpto. de Electricidad y Electrónica | Facultad de Ciencias - Campus de Lejona | Tel.: +34-946012479 48940 Lejona (Vizcaya) - SPAIN | Fax: +34-944858139 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- "Go ahead... make my day." - H. Callahan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jan 15 06:37:40 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA22237 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 06:37:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from megaweapon.zigg.com (megaweapon.zigg.com [206.114.60.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA22218; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 06:37:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from matt@megaweapon.zigg.com) Received: from localhost (matt@localhost) by megaweapon.zigg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA06236; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 09:35:51 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from matt@megaweapon.zigg.com) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 09:35:50 -0500 (EST) From: Matt Behrens To: Brian Somers cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , Eivind Eklund , "Joseph T. Lee" , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Gratuitous name changes (was: libalias and ident) In-Reply-To: <199901140859.IAA44254@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 14 Jan 1999, Brian Somers wrote: : But this isn't necessarily a good idea as it may attract a pile of : ``why the hell did you break my configuration for no good reason'' : messages. : : Anyone with any strong opinions on this ? : : Of course it's not guaranteed that libalias will change to libnat, : there's another thread starting on -hackers about that :-) It's also : possible to change the ppp flag, even if libalias isn't renamed. I winced when I heard that the flag was named -alias in the first place, since aliasing really is a different animal. (At least, that's what they taught *me* in school.) :) I say, if the change can be made before the -STABLE branch, do it. People should expect to rewrite a lot of config files anyway. However, if it's not too much trouble, -alias could be kept temporarily with a deprecation warning that would display on invocation. (Most people, while loath to read announcements and manpages, would probably think about investigating if their ppp started beeping and printing annoying error messages on bootup.) - Matt Behrens Network Administrator, zigg.com Engineer, Nameless IRC Network To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jan 15 06:37:48 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA22286 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 06:37:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.vr.IN-Berlin.DE (gnu.in-berlin.de [192.109.42.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA22265 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 06:37:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dva.in-berlin.de!balu@hirsch.in-berlin.de) Received: from hirsch.in-berlin.de (root@hirsch.in-berlin.de [192.109.42.6]) by mail.vr.IN-Berlin.DE (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA25676 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 15:36:26 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from dva.in-berlin.de!balu@hirsch.in-berlin.de) Received: by hirsch.in-berlin.de (Smail3.2) id ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 15:36:24 +0100 (CET) Received: (from balu@localhost) by dva.in-berlin.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA67521 for current@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 15:07:18 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from balu) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 15:07:18 +0100 From: Boris Staeblow To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: CTM <> CVSUP differences Message-ID: <19990115150718.A66695@dva.in-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I'm using ctm-cvs for synchronizing my CVS-Tree. But sometimes I get MD5 checksum errors when apllying the ctm's. To resynchronize my ctm's with the CVS-Tree i have to use cvsup at ctm.freebsd.org with the option "strictrcs". Many files have to be retransmitted and many fixup's appear. Is it possible that there are slight differences between the CTM's and the "real world" ? Is CTM a little neglient when the diffs are generated? Boris -- balu@dva.in-berlin.de Boris Staeblow To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jan 15 07:11:51 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA26278 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 07:11:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hermes.rz.uni-sb.de (hermes.rz.uni-sb.de [134.96.7.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA26268; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 07:11:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rock@cs.uni-sb.de) Received: from mars.rz.uni-sb.de (mars.rz.uni-sb.de [134.96.7.5]) by hermes.rz.uni-sb.de (8.8.8/8.8.7/8.7.7) with ESMTP id QAA21586; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 16:10:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from cs.uni-sb.de (cs.uni-sb.de [134.96.254.254]) by mars.rz.uni-sb.de (8.8.8/8.8.4/8.8.2) with ESMTP id QAA01203; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 16:10:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from cs.uni-sb.de (acc1-141.telip.uni-sb.de [134.96.113.141]) by cs.uni-sb.de (8.9.2/1999010400) with ESMTP id QAA06206; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 16:10:10 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <369F5A4F.4918539B@cs.uni-sb.de> Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 16:10:07 +0100 From: "D. Rock" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [de] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthew Dillon CC: Satoshi Asami , skynyrd@opus.cts.cwu.edu, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NFS woes: getting worse? References: <199901150821.AAA35744@apollo.backplane.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have similar experiences. I sometimes do a "make release" with an NFS mounted chroot environment. My latest successful build is dated from Dec 21. All of the later builds (starting Jan 6th) failed. The error seems to be very deterministic though. I have at least a lot of garbage in /usr/include, with the usual 0-Bytes starting on page boundary (but never the first page) up to the end of the file. I looked at the cvs log, but the only NFS/vfs/vm change I discovered (I'm using only NFSv2/UDP, so the one for NFSv3 on Solaris 7 doesn't apply) were the removal of "waslocked" paramter on Jan 5th. I don't know if this is related, though. Daniel Matthew Dillon schrieb: > > :Forgot to mention, this happens with a read-only NFS tree too. I was > :running builds on the client with a shared /usr/ports and WRKDIRPREFIX > :pointing to a local directory, and the build will topple over in the > :middle unable to find a Makefile on the server or something. > : > :That is the problem that went away with the server load. > : > :Satoshi > > I am running a Dec 24th CVS tree while working on the first set of VM > commits. > > I've been using read-only NFS mounts of /usr/src on diskless workstations > in order to do make -j6 buildworld runs on them ( /usr/obj being a big > 300 MB MFS filesystem on the same workstation, swap-backed, where swap > itself is BOOTP NFS based swap). > > I have not experienced any NFS corruption at all, so whatever blew NFS up > must have been committed after Dec 24th. Note that I *AM* using luoqi's > VFS/BIO patches, which fixed the msdosfs mount-after-ufs-mount-attempt > crash. > > I'll have time to help track down the NFS problems after the tree splits > and I can commit the new swapper, but I can't update my tree until then. > > -Matt > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jan 15 07:33:22 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA29200 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 07:33:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from opus.cts.cwu.edu (opus.cts.cwu.edu [198.104.92.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA29192; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 07:33:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from skynyrd@opus.cts.cwu.edu) Received: from localhost (skynyrd@localhost) by opus.cts.cwu.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id HAA17610; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 07:32:10 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 07:32:10 -0800 (PST) From: Chris Timmons To: Satoshi Asami cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NFS woes: getting worse? In-Reply-To: <199901150811.AAA25308@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Actually the good news is that the problems I see with the XFree86-contrib port are absolutely reproducible. To be sure I set the test case up on a different set of machines than the pair at home on which I first noticed it. I'll dig a little more this weekend and perhaps I can correlate my ktrace data against the tcpdump trace. -Chris On Fri, 15 Jan 1999, Satoshi Asami wrote: > * From: asami@FreeBSD.ORG (Satoshi Asami) > * > * * From: Chris Timmons > * > * * make: don't know how to make Makefiles. Stop > * > * I've seen similar things, but they went away when I reduced the load > * (other compilations in my case) on the server. How busy is your > * server? > > Forgot to mention, this happens with a read-only NFS tree too. I was > running builds on the client with a shared /usr/ports and WRKDIRPREFIX > pointing to a local directory, and the build will topple over in the > middle unable to find a Makefile on the server or something. > > That is the problem that went away with the server load. > > Satoshi > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jan 15 08:21:39 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA05396 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 08:21:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from k6n1.znh.org ([207.109.235.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA05369 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 08:21:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from zach@uffdaonline.net) Received: (from zach@localhost) by k6n1.znh.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA17322; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 16:19:34 GMT (envelope-from zach) Message-ID: <19990115101934.C16631@znh.org> Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 10:19:34 -0600 From: Zach Heilig To: Brian Feldman , Archie Cobbs Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Weird file corruption? References: <199901130527.VAA10163@bubba.whistle.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: ; from Brian Feldman on Wed, Jan 13, 1999 at 05:26:40PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Jan 13, 1999 at 05:26:40PM -0500, Brian Feldman wrote: ... > How could it be memory when it's written to disk, extracted, then after a nearly > full build read again? Why would it extract completely the first time with no > errors? I had this exact same problem when evaluating pentium motherboards a while back. One of my (parity!) simms was marginal [later verified with a simm checker], but it was not noticed until after I made one corrupt archive [and deleted the originals]. Luckily, both the simm and the motherboard were still returnable. This also verified for me that most Intel chipsets for pentium do not use parity even if available. -- Zach Heilig / Zach Heilig To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jan 15 08:32:17 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA06181 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 08:32:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from agnes.stthom.edu ([209.184.165.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA06176 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 08:32:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jim@agnes.stthom.edu) Received: from localhost (jim@localhost) by agnes.stthom.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA18739; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 09:56:08 -0600 Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 09:56:07 -0600 (CST) From: "Jim C. Joseph" To: Brian Handy cc: David Faciane , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: windowmaker In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I will happily take the patches and test it on -current :) -Jim On Thu, 14 Jan 1999, Brian Handy wrote: > > >Anyone running the new windowmaker (0.50.2) on current? Any problems, > >advice, pitfalls? The windowmaker port is out of date (0.20.3). > > I'm running it on -STABLE...no -current box here. I've sent the patches > to my committer guy, but he doesn't seem to be in right now. (Maybe I'll > submit a PR here in a minute so someone else can grab it and have a go at > it.) > > Regards, > > Brian > ---------------------------------- Jim Joseph Email: jcj@phoenix.net Be free and open and breezy! Enjoy! Things won't get any better so get used to it. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jan 15 08:46:44 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA07239 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 08:46:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from agnes.stthom.edu ([209.184.165.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA07233; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 08:46:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jim@agnes.stthom.edu) Received: from localhost (jim@localhost) by agnes.stthom.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA18778; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 10:09:50 -0600 Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 10:09:50 -0600 (CST) From: "Jim C. Joseph" To: Satoshi Asami cc: brian@worldcontrol.com, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Which sound card now? In-Reply-To: <199901150926.BAA25550@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is the SB PCI 128 supported yet in -current. I new a new sound card and I really would like a 'real' Sound balster. On Fri, 15 Jan 1999, Satoshi Asami wrote: > * From: brian@worldcontrol.com > > * So I am now mostly back the square 1. I'm still using an old GUS MAX, > * which at the whim of FreeBSD-core may suddenly stop working. > > Just one point -- the axing of voxware was *not* approved by > FreeBSD-core, and that's why it has been brought back. > > Satoshi > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > ---------------------------------- Jim Joseph Email: jcj@phoenix.net Be free and open and breezy! Enjoy! Things won't get any better so get used to it. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jan 15 08:52:32 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA08088 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 08:52:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ivory.trentu.ca (trentu.ca [192.75.12.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA08076 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 08:52:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kfarmer@trentu.ca) Received: from trentu.ca ([192.75.12.156]) by trentu.ca (PMDF V5.1-10 #22248) with ESMTP id <01J6KHH1KBHI0042JG@trentu.ca> for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 11:52:22 EST Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 11:54:08 -0500 From: Kelvin Subject: splash screen & xdm To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: <369F72B0.4577EA3F@trentu.ca> Organization: Trent University MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It seems that if the splash screen image is not cleared (ie: press any key) before xdm starts up then once logged in the user is unable to switch to a vitual terminal (ie: ctrl-alt-f1 etc), and it just beeps when those keys are pressed. Solution? Putting the command kldunload splash_bmp before the line that loads xdm seems to work. Is this a bug or just the way things are? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jan 15 08:57:46 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA08680 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 08:57:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA08675 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 08:57:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA00940; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 08:54:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199901151654.IAA00940@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Kelvin cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: splash screen & xdm In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 15 Jan 1999 11:54:08 EST." <369F72B0.4577EA3F@trentu.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 08:54:37 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > It seems that if the splash screen image is not cleared (ie: press any > key) before xdm starts up then once logged in the user is unable to > switch to a vitual terminal (ie: ctrl-alt-f1 etc), and it just beeps > when those keys are pressed. > Solution? Putting the command kldunload splash_bmp before the line that > loads xdm seems to work. Is this a bug or just the way things are? It's arguably a bug - the splash should be cleared before the vty switch that X makes. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jan 15 09:15:25 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA10977 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 09:15:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from caladan.tdx.co.uk (caladan.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA10961 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 09:15:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) Received: from tdx.co.uk (lorca-tx.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.242]) by caladan.tdx.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA19747 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 17:15:17 GMT Message-ID: <369F776A.138BAAB3@tdx.co.uk> Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 17:14:18 +0000 From: Karl Pielorz Organization: TDX - The Digital eXchange X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Still safe to do a remote 'installworld'? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Am I still safe to do the equivalent of a 'remote' install world? - I have 2 x 3.0 boxes, one which is fresh 3.0-RELEASE, the other which is 3.0-CURRENT... If I take the /usr/src & /usr/obj directories from sucsessful 'buildworld' on the -current machine can I run an 'installworld' on the -release machine? Or is it highly likely to stuff up because of all the recent elven changes etc? - Unfortunately the -release box isn't meaty enough to build the world... I gave up after around 16 hours a time and a few failures (which have been posted here, and subsequently fixed) - I'd kinda not like to have to wait another 16 hours to find any more problems ;-) - especially when the faster box can munch through it in around an hour flat... :) Regards, Karl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jan 15 09:33:47 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA13141 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 09:33:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA13136 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 09:33:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA01141 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 09:30:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199901151730.JAA01141@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: New NMBCLUSTERS tuning alternative Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 09:30:39 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG With this commit, I'm trialling a simple method for providing tuning hints for otherwise statically-set parameters from the bootloader. You can now say: set kern.ipc.nmbclusters=XXXX to effectively set NMBCLUSTERS to XXXX. I've looked at other approaches, particularly a hook in the SYSCTL_* defines to search the environment and set the variables when the MIB is instantiated, but this won't happen early enough for some things. Any suggestions welcome, of course. ------- Forwarded Message msmith 1999/01/15 09:25:03 PST Modified files: sys/i386/i386 machdep.c Log: Fetch an overide for NMBCLUSTERS from the kernel environment. Never allow the value to be reduced below that defined when the kernel was built. Revision Changes Path 1.322 +7 -1 src/sys/i386/i386/machdep.c Modified files: sys/kern kern_environment.c sys/sys systm.h Log: Add getenv_int(), specifically for retrieving integer values from kernel environment variables. This makes it easy to pass tuning parameters in from the bootloader. Revision Changes Path 1.4 +20 -1 src/sys/kern/kern_environment.c 1.84 +2 -1 src/sys/sys/systm.h ------- End of Forwarded Message -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jan 15 09:43:59 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA14190 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 09:43:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from schizo.cdsnet.net (schizo.cdsnet.net [204.118.244.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA14182 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 09:43:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mrcpu@internetcds.com) Received: from localhost (mrcpu@localhost) by schizo.cdsnet.net (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA15655; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 09:39:14 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 09:39:14 -0800 (PST) From: Jaye Mathisen X-Sender: mrcpu@schizo.cdsnet.net To: Mike Smith cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: New NMBCLUSTERS tuning alternative In-Reply-To: <199901151730.JAA01141@dingo.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I love it. Haven't tried it, but the concept is great, and on the assumption it works, will make things even easier... Keep 'em coming. :) On Fri, 15 Jan 1999, Mike Smith wrote: > > With this commit, I'm trialling a simple method for providing tuning > hints for otherwise statically-set parameters from the bootloader. > > You can now say: > > set kern.ipc.nmbclusters=XXXX > > to effectively set NMBCLUSTERS to XXXX. > > I've looked at other approaches, particularly a hook in the SYSCTL_* > defines to search the environment and set the variables when the MIB > is instantiated, but this won't happen early enough for some things. > > Any suggestions welcome, of course. > > ------- Forwarded Message > > msmith 1999/01/15 09:25:03 PST > > Modified files: > sys/i386/i386 machdep.c > Log: > Fetch an overide for NMBCLUSTERS from the kernel environment. Never allow > the value to be reduced below that defined when the kernel was built. > > Revision Changes Path > 1.322 +7 -1 src/sys/i386/i386/machdep.c > > Modified files: > sys/kern kern_environment.c > sys/sys systm.h > Log: > Add getenv_int(), specifically for retrieving integer values from kernel > environment variables. This makes it easy to pass tuning parameters > in from the bootloader. > > Revision Changes Path > 1.4 +20 -1 src/sys/kern/kern_environment.c > 1.84 +2 -1 src/sys/sys/systm.h > > > ------- End of Forwarded Message > > > -- > \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith > \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au > \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org > \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jan 15 09:45:26 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA14349 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 09:45:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from schizo.cdsnet.net (schizo.cdsnet.net [204.118.244.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA14340 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 09:45:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mrcpu@internetcds.com) Received: from localhost (mrcpu@localhost) by schizo.cdsnet.net (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA15675 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 09:40:57 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 09:40:57 -0800 (PST) From: Jaye Mathisen X-Sender: mrcpu@schizo.cdsnet.net To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Can the bootloader create a file or set a flag in the bootblocks? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It would be kind of cool if when managing a remote system if /kernel failed to boot, then on the next boot, the loader will fire up /kernel.old, or a /kernel.somethingorother. Sort of a kernel-clean flag. Then 300 miles away, I can try stuff, and have at least some assurance that I'll eventually be able to get back to a kernel I could use. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jan 15 09:50:39 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA14897 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 09:50:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA14889 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 09:50:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA01235; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 09:46:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199901151746.JAA01235@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Jaye Mathisen cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Can the bootloader create a file or set a flag in the bootblocks? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 15 Jan 1999 09:40:57 PST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 09:46:44 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > It would be kind of cool if when managing a remote system if /kernel > failed to boot, then on the next boot, the loader will fire up > /kernel.old, or a /kernel.somethingorother. > > Sort of a kernel-clean flag. Then 300 miles away, I can try stuff, and > have at least some assurance that I'll eventually be able to get back to a > kernel I could use. We're trying to work out a clean way of managing that sort of persistent state that doesn't involve nasty hacks like the 'nextboot' code did. It's kinda tricky if you don't want "write" implemented in all your filesystems (bloat!) -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jan 15 09:50:56 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA15140 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 09:50:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bs1-highway1.skyman (ns.modem.ru [212.57.132.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA15127 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 09:50:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from igorsh@garural.chel.su) Received: from garural.chel.su (garant-ural.ru [195.54.6.129]) by bs1-highway1.skyman (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id WAA08881 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 22:50:11 +0500 Received: from igorsh.garural.chel.su (igorsh.garant-ural.ru [195.54.6.135]) by garural.chel.su (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id WAA00449 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 22:50:34 +0500 (ES) (envelope-from igorsh@garural.chel.su) Message-ID: <015501be40af$af8d9aa0$870636c3@igorsh.garural.chel.su> From: "Igor Shulgin" To: Subject: FreeBSD 3.0-RELEASE & Apache 1.3.2 problem Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 22:51:30 +0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi All! I recently installed FreeBSD 3.0-RELEASE from ftp.freebsd.org and Apache/1.3.2 (Server version: Apache/1.3.2 (Unix). Server built: Oct 14 1998 23:19:52) from ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/3.0-RELEASE/packages/www/apache-1.3.2.tgz . After running 'pkg_add apache-1.3.2.tgz' I renamed all /usr/local/etc/apache/*.conf.default in *.conf . Nothing other was changed. After running /usr/local/etc/rc.d/apache.sh I see next message on screen: Local package initialization:Syntax error on line 26 of /usr/local/etc/apache/httpd.conf: Cannot load /usr/local/libexec/apache/mod_mime_magic.so into server: /usr/local/libexec/apache/mod_mime_magic.so: Undefined symbol "ap_make_sub_pool" Therefore httpd is not running. File /usr/local/libexec/apache/mod_mime_magic.so exist with rights rwxr-xr-x. In file /usr/local/etc/apache/httpd.conf there is line (1st line among others LoadModule): LoadModule mime_magic_module libexec/apache/mod_mime_magic.so What I have done wrong? Is it possible to run Apache 1.3.x on FreeBSD 3.0 ? --- With good wishes, Igor Shulgin -------------------------------------------------- Phone/fax: +7 (3512) 65-49-51 | SIE "Garant-Ural" E-mail: igorsh@garural.chel.su | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jan 15 09:59:08 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA15941 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 09:59:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from megaweapon.zigg.com (megaweapon.zigg.com [206.114.60.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA15928 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 09:59:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from matt@megaweapon.zigg.com) Received: from localhost (matt@localhost) by megaweapon.zigg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA06762 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 12:59:01 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from matt@megaweapon.zigg.com) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 12:59:00 -0500 (EST) From: Matt Behrens To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: sig11 from 3.0.0-19990106-SNAP Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I must have missed this on the list, but I caught a sig11 on sysinstall from 3.0.0-19990106-SNAP. DEBUG on VTY2 reports: DEBUG: diskPartitionWrite: Examining 1 devices DEBUG: bootalloc: can't stat /boot/boot1 DEBUG: bootalloc: can't stat /boot/boot2 DEBUG: Signal 11 caught! That's bad! Ideas? Different SNAPs to try? (This is completely reproducible.) - Matt Behrens Network Administrator, zigg.com Engineer, Nameless IRC Network To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jan 15 10:03:46 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA16855 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 10:03:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA16848 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 10:03:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA01331; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 10:00:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199901151800.KAA01331@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Matt Behrens cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sig11 from 3.0.0-19990106-SNAP In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 15 Jan 1999 12:59:00 EST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 10:00:04 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I must have missed this on the list, but I caught a sig11 on > sysinstall from 3.0.0-19990106-SNAP. DEBUG on VTY2 reports: > > DEBUG: diskPartitionWrite: Examining 1 devices > DEBUG: bootalloc: can't stat /boot/boot1 > DEBUG: bootalloc: can't stat /boot/boot2 > DEBUG: Signal 11 caught! That's bad! > > Ideas? Different SNAPs to try? (This is completely reproducible.) It's fixed. I just did a two-floppy install of the 12'th SNAP, it worked fine. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jan 15 10:04:33 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA16979 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 10:04:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mercury.Sun.COM (mercury.Sun.COM [192.9.25.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA16969 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 10:04:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from alk@avalon.East.Sun.COM) Received: from East.Sun.COM ([129.148.1.241]) by mercury.Sun.COM (SMI-8.6/mail.byaddr) with SMTP id KAA25338 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 10:04:27 -0800 Received: from suneast.East.Sun.COM by East.Sun.COM (SMI-8.6/SMI-5.3) id NAA00795; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 13:04:24 -0500 Received: from avalon.east.sun.com (hobo60.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.8.60]) by suneast.East.Sun.COM (8.9.1b+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA03685 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 13:04:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from alk@localhost) by avalon.east.sun.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA08206; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 12:03:10 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from alk) From: Tony Kimball MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 12:03:10 -0600 (CST) X-Face: \h9Jg:Cuivl4S*UP-)gO.6O=T]]@ncM*tn4zG);)lk#4|lqEx=*talx?.Gk,dMQU2)ptPC17cpBzm(l'M|H8BUF1&]dDCxZ.c~Wy6-j,^V1E(NtX$FpkkdnJixsJHE95JlhO 5\M3jh'YiO7KPCn0~W`Ro44_TB@&JuuqRqgPL'0/{):7rU-%.*@/>q?1&Ed Reply-To: alk@pobox.com To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: PPP data-dependent bug X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <13983.33200.312463.1364@avalon.east> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG FYI, when I rcp (actually, rsync) a certain makefile (ppp -alias), I get lots of these, and it never completes: Warning: CCP: deflink: Incorrect ResetAck (id 49, not 50) ignored Warning: CCP: deflink: Incorrect ResetAck (id 49, not 50) ignored Warning: CCP: deflink: Unexpected ResetAck (id 51) ignored Warning: CCP: deflink: Unexpected ResetAck (id 55) ignored Warning: CCP: deflink: Unexpected ResetAck (id 55) ignored To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jan 15 10:04:47 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA17009 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 10:04:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de (ipamzlx.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA16679 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 10:02:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sysop@ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de) Received: from localhost (sysop@localhost) by ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de (8.9.2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA00400 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 19:02:24 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from sysop@ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 19:02:24 +0100 (CET) From: Systemoperator IPAMZLX To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Unexpected Busfree Error SEQADDR 0x0153 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I got this message after getting the newest source from cvsup today (15.01.1999, about 14 h GMT). I compiled the sources then installed everything and compiled a new kernel. So, the kernel stops after recognition of the NIC when accessing the first SCSI adaptor of two (first Adaptec AHA2940UW, second Adaptec AHA2940AU) with some obsucre errors, like somthing with PHASE and at the end UNEXPETED BUSFREE SEQADDR 0x153. The whole message is gone. I can boot the box with old kernel, compiled a week ago. I installed also the newest bootblocks ... Seems to be an driver problem ... Best wishes Oliver To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jan 15 10:19:06 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA19119 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 10:19:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.40.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA19111 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 10:19:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.9.1/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA04753; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 19:17:24 +0100 (CET) To: Mike Smith cc: Jaye Mathisen , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Can the bootloader create a file or set a flag in the bootblocks? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 15 Jan 1999 09:46:44 PST." <199901151746.JAA01235@dingo.cdrom.com> Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 19:17:23 +0100 Message-ID: <4751.916424243@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG That particular feature could also be done with "once-persistence" as in: On next reboot load this file... In message <199901151746.JAA01235@dingo.cdrom.com>, Mike Smith writes: >> >> >> It would be kind of cool if when managing a remote system if /kernel >> failed to boot, then on the next boot, the loader will fire up >> /kernel.old, or a /kernel.somethingorother. >> >> Sort of a kernel-clean flag. Then 300 miles away, I can try stuff, and >> have at least some assurance that I'll eventually be able to get back to a >> kernel I could use. > >We're trying to work out a clean way of managing that sort of >persistent state that doesn't involve nasty hacks like the 'nextboot' >code did. It's kinda tricky if you don't want "write" implemented in >all your filesystems (bloat!) > >-- >\\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith >\\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au >\\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org >\\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." FreeBSD -- It will take a long time before progress goes too far! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jan 15 10:33:00 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA21327 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 10:33:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA21315 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 10:32:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA01489; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 10:23:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199901151823.KAA01489@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Poul-Henning Kamp cc: Mike Smith , Jaye Mathisen , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Can the bootloader create a file or set a flag in the bootblocks? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 15 Jan 1999 19:17:23 +0100." <4751.916424243@critter.freebsd.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 10:23:16 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > That particular feature could also be done with "once-persistence" > as in: On next reboot load this file... Sure. The problem is just implementing any persistence at all. Consider that we support the following backing-stores for the kernel: - UFS on local disk - (V)FAT(32) - NFS - TFTP - iso9660 Obviously we can't write to CDROMs, but a persistence mechanism needs to work with each of these others. I've been leaning towards a very simple solution using a small, preallocated file which we just overwrite. It's not beautiful, but it's workable. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jan 15 10:34:09 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA21692 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 10:34:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from caladan.tdx.co.uk (caladan.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA21596 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 10:33:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) Received: from tdx.co.uk (lorca-tx.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.242]) by caladan.tdx.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id SAA20163; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 18:33:37 GMT Message-ID: <369F89C6.B7F11194@tdx.co.uk> Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 18:32:38 +0000 From: Karl Pielorz Organization: TDX - The Digital eXchange X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jaye Mathisen CC: Mike Smith , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Can the bootloader create a file or set a flag in the bootblocks? References: <4751.916424243@critter.freebsd.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > >> Sort of a kernel-clean flag. Then 300 miles away, I can try stuff, and > >> have at least some assurance that I'll eventually be able to get back to a > >> kernel I could use. Hmmm... This does rely on the 'stuffed-kernel' eventually cleanly rebooting the machine, we don't want anyone getting a 'false sense of confidence' out of this ;-) - A lot of the machines we use don't even reboot on a 'shutdown -r' :-( -Kp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jan 15 11:36:24 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA28843 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 11:36:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from lamb.sas.com (lamb.sas.com [192.35.83.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA28830 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 11:36:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jwd@unx.sas.com) Received: from mozart (mozart.unx.sas.com [192.58.184.8]) by lamb.sas.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA15163 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 14:36:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from bb01f39.unx.sas.com by mozart (5.65c/SAS/Domains/5-6-90) id AA26873; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 14:36:19 -0500 Received: (from jwd@localhost) by bb01f39.unx.sas.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA81536 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 14:36:19 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jwd) From: "John W. DeBoskey" Message-Id: <199901151936.OAA81536@bb01f39.unx.sas.com> Subject: Make world failure To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 14:36:19 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, My src tree is current as of 2:00 EST (35 minutes ago), and I'm seeing the following failure: cp dl_dlopen.xs DynaLoader.xs /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin/miniperl -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl/lib -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl/lib /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl/lib/ExtUtils/xsubpp -noprototypes -typemap /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl/lib/ExtUtils/typemap DynaLoader.xs >xstmp.c && mv xstmp.c DynaLoader.c cc -c -nostdinc -O -pipe -DVERSION=\"1.03\" -DXS_VERSION=\"1.03\" -DPIC -fpic -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl -DPERL_CORE -DLIBC="" DynaLoader.c In file included from DynaLoader.xs:107: /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl/perl.h:301: sys/types.h: No such file or directory /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl/perl.h:312: stdarg.h: No such file or directory In file included from /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl/iperlsys.h:203, from /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl/perl.h:319, from DynaLoader.xs:107: /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl/perlsdio.h:5: stdio.h: No such file or directory In file included from DynaLoader.xs:107: I'll see if I can figure out what changed later this afternoon. Later, John To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jan 15 11:45:42 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA01388 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 11:45:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from alecto.physics.uiuc.edu (alecto.physics.uiuc.edu [130.126.8.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA01379 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 11:45:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from igor@alecto.physics.uiuc.edu) Received: (from igor@localhost) by alecto.physics.uiuc.edu (8.9.0/8.9.0) id NAA01458; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 13:45:29 -0600 (CST) From: Igor Roshchin Message-Id: <199901151945.NAA01458@alecto.physics.uiuc.edu> Subject: a few suggestions/comments on 3.0-RELEASE To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 13:45:29 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello! First of all I appologize if any of these problems have been addressed on the -current list, I am not subscribed, and at the moment don't have much time to carefully browse through the archive of the -current. However, after a quick glance I didn't find it reported. All this is related to the 3.0-RELEASE. I've encountered this problems while installing 3.0-RELEASE on a PII-350 with ASUS P2B-LS motherboard (i.e. there is Adaptec U2W adapter and Intel EtherExpress 100/10 on board) All HDDs are UW SCSI. 1. Having two /stand/sysinstall working in parallel in two different virtual consoles (after the system is brought up after the initial installation), makes the system to panic and reboot. This seems to happen if, and at the moment when both sysinstall's are writing something intensively, say installing packages in one and installing additional options for the distribution (catpages, manpages, sources..) - both from the ftp. The errors appear on the screen so fast that I couldn't catch what they were, but they seemed to be related to the disk i/o. Everytime (I tried 3-4 times) it was the same error. None is written to /var/log/messages. 2. I didn't find any documentation in the man pages which describes the features of the new bootstrap - i.e. that it is capable of handling slice number. /boot.help doesn't have that reference either. (I mean the possibility of specifying "2:da(1,2,a)kernel" where the second "2" is for the slice number) The only place I found where it was addressed was somebody's answer in -questions archive, and on the -stable list. Also, it might be nice if the disklabel(8) man pages explicitely say that the bootstrap code can be installed on each slice. (am I wrong ?) 3. if I start /stand/sysinstall after bringing the computer up for the first time, and try to add and configure the network interface (fxp0 in my case), it prompts me if I want to bring it up. If I say "yes", it was not complaining about anything, but in some cases (may be even all - I didn't test extensively) the routing to the will not come up (according to the netstat), so it'd look like (approximately, recreated from my memory): > netstat -i Name Mtu Network Address Ipkts Ierrs Opkts Oerrs Coll fxp0 1500 00.00.c0.3d.41.c6 0 0 0 0 0 lp0* 1500 0 0 0 0 0 tun0* 1500 0 0 0 0 0 lo0 16384 0 0 0 0 0 lo0 16384 127 localhost 0 0 0 0 0 Just doing the configuration of the interface, and than rebooting does the job alright. (My only doubt is that I don't remember whether there were any leftovers of attempts of configuring the fxp0 interface manually just before starting the sysinstall. In any case I think sysinstall should be able to bring the interface up properly.) I didn't experience any problem with bringing the interface up from the installation floppy. 4. (it's probably relevant to -ports list ?) "make" for the ssh (not ssh2) complains about the absence of bsd.port.post.mk and bsd.port.pre.mk Copying it from the -stable brunch seems to fix the problem. (It seems that I've seen somebody complaining about this problem, but couldn't find it anywhere, and it is not reflected in the ERRATA http://www.freebsd.org/releases/3.0R/errata.html ) If you want to reply or to ask about some details I missed, please include my address in the reciepients, because I am not subscribed to -current mailing list. Regards, Igor To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jan 15 11:47:27 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA01933 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 11:47:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from TomQNX.tomqnx.com (cpu2745.adsl.bellglobal.com [207.236.55.214]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA01923 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 11:47:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom@tomqnx.com) Received: by TomQNX.tomqnx.com (Smail3.2 #1) id m101FDG-000I4cC; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 14:47:22 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: From: tom@tomqnx.com (Tom Torrance at home) Subject: Out of file descriptors To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 14:47:22 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG After a cvsup and make world this AM, I get .: Out of file descriptors then I am thrown into single user, and the booting process stops. Can someone advise me what is causing this, and what I have to do to eliminate the problem? Thanks in advance! Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jan 15 11:51:19 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA02477 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 11:51:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from janus.syracuse.net (janus.syracuse.net [205.232.47.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA02472 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 11:51:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from green@unixhelp.org) Received: from localhost (green@localhost) by janus.syracuse.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA05385; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 14:51:01 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 14:51:01 -0500 (EST) From: Brian Feldman X-Sender: green@janus.syracuse.net To: Zach Heilig cc: Archie Cobbs , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Weird file corruption? In-Reply-To: <19990115101934.C16631@znh.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 15 Jan 1999, Zach Heilig wrote: > On Wed, Jan 13, 1999 at 05:26:40PM -0500, Brian Feldman wrote: > ... > > How could it be memory when it's written to disk, extracted, then after a nearly > > full build read again? Why would it extract completely the first time with no > > errors? > > I had this exact same problem when evaluating pentium motherboards a > while back. One of my (parity!) simms was marginal [later verified > with a simm checker], but it was not noticed until after I made one > corrupt archive [and deleted the originals]. Luckily, both the simm > and the motherboard were still returnable. Good to know I am looking in the right place. I switched my timings from Turbo to Normal (I have 2 EDO/2 FP), and now it seems to past tests, but I think I did see a few bytes get corrupted in an image in netscape... ah well, so you'd recommend finding someone with a SIMM checker? > > This also verified for me that most Intel chipsets for pentium do > not use parity even if available. > > -- > Zach Heilig / Zach Heilig > Brian Feldman _ __ ___ ___ ___ green@unixhelp.org _ __ ___ | _ ) __| \ http://www.freebsd.org/ _ __ ___ ____ | _ \__ \ |) | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! _ __ ___ ____ _____ |___/___/___/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jan 15 12:02:06 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA03957 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 12:02:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from janus.syracuse.net (janus.syracuse.net [205.232.47.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA03945 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 12:02:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from green@unixhelp.org) Received: from localhost (green@localhost) by janus.syracuse.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA05740; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 14:56:54 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 14:56:54 -0500 (EST) From: Brian Feldman X-Sender: green@janus.syracuse.net To: Mike Smith cc: Poul-Henning Kamp , Jaye Mathisen , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Can the bootloader create a file or set a flag in the bootblocks? In-Reply-To: <199901151823.KAA01489@dingo.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 15 Jan 1999, Mike Smith wrote: > > > > That particular feature could also be done with "once-persistence" > > as in: On next reboot load this file... > > Sure. The problem is just implementing any persistence at all. > Consider that we support the following backing-stores for the kernel: > > - UFS on local disk > - (V)FAT(32) > - NFS > - TFTP > - iso9660 > > Obviously we can't write to CDROMs, but a persistence mechanism needs > to work with each of these others. I've been leaning towards a very > simple solution using a small, preallocated file which we just > overwrite. It's not beautiful, but it's workable. It can't go into free space in a boot block? We still have room left over... It could only be a few bytes, enumerating numbered kernels in /boot/kernels.rc, or something like that > > -- > \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith > \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au > \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org > \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > Brian Feldman _ __ ___ ___ ___ green@unixhelp.org _ __ ___ | _ ) __| \ http://www.freebsd.org/ _ __ ___ ____ | _ \__ \ |) | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! _ __ ___ ____ _____ |___/___/___/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jan 15 12:06:21 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA04296 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 12:06:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA04291 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 12:06:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA02063; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 11:57:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199901151957.LAA02063@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Brian Feldman cc: Mike Smith , Poul-Henning Kamp , Jaye Mathisen , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Can the bootloader create a file or set a flag in the bootblocks? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 15 Jan 1999 14:56:54 EST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 11:57:11 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Fri, 15 Jan 1999, Mike Smith wrote: > > Obviously we can't write to CDROMs, but a persistence mechanism needs > > to work with each of these others. I've been leaning towards a very > > simple solution using a small, preallocated file which we just > > overwrite. It's not beautiful, but it's workable. > > It can't go into free space in a boot block? We still have room left over... > It could only be a few bytes, enumerating numbered kernels in /boot/kernels.rc, > or something like that It needs to be a general solution, and see above, again, for the things it needs to be able to do. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jan 15 12:13:41 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA04874 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 12:13:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from janus.syracuse.net (janus.syracuse.net [205.232.47.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA04867 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 12:13:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from green@unixhelp.org) Received: from localhost (green@localhost) by janus.syracuse.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA06425; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 15:08:06 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 15:08:06 -0500 (EST) From: Brian Feldman X-Sender: green@janus.syracuse.net To: Mike Smith cc: Poul-Henning Kamp , Jaye Mathisen , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Can the bootloader create a file or set a flag in the bootblocks? In-Reply-To: <199901151957.LAA02063@dingo.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 15 Jan 1999, Mike Smith wrote: > > On Fri, 15 Jan 1999, Mike Smith wrote: > > > Obviously we can't write to CDROMs, but a persistence mechanism needs > > > to work with each of these others. I've been leaning towards a very > > > simple solution using a small, preallocated file which we just > > > overwrite. It's not beautiful, but it's workable. > > > > It can't go into free space in a boot block? We still have room left over... > > It could only be a few bytes, enumerating numbered kernels in /boot/kernels.rc, > > or something like that > > It needs to be a general solution, and see above, again, for the things > it needs to be able to do. So for FFS, it could be stored in the superblock, label, or one of the other structures that aren't actually inodes, right? For FAT, couldn't it be stored in either the FAT or the volume name? TFTP and NFS are both non-local, but still have writing capabilities built in. > > -- > \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith > \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au > \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org > \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com > > > Brian Feldman _ __ ___ ___ ___ green@unixhelp.org _ __ ___ | _ ) __| \ http://www.freebsd.org/ _ __ ___ ____ | _ \__ \ |) | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! _ __ ___ ____ _____ |___/___/___/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jan 15 12:14:29 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA04962 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 12:14:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from k6n1.znh.org ([207.109.235.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA04941 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 12:14:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from zach@uffdaonline.net) Received: (from zach@localhost) by k6n1.znh.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA18232; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 20:13:01 GMT (envelope-from zach) Message-ID: <19990115141301.A18126@znh.org> Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 14:13:01 -0600 From: Zach Heilig To: Brian Feldman , Zach Heilig Cc: Archie Cobbs , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Weird file corruption? References: <19990115101934.C16631@znh.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: ; from Brian Feldman on Fri, Jan 15, 1999 at 02:51:01PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Jan 15, 1999 at 02:51:01PM -0500, Brian Feldman wrote: > Good to know I am looking in the right place. > I switched my timings from Turbo to Normal (I have 2 EDO/2 FP), and now it > seems to past tests, but I think I did see a few bytes get corrupted in an image > in netscape... ah well, so you'd recommend finding someone with a SIMM checker? Except simm checkers don't always catch errors, so if the simm passes, there still is no guarantee (but simm checkers do weed out obvious duds quicker than trying in a system). Unfortunately, there is no conclusive test [that I know about] to prove a simm is "good". The best test I know is to use emperical evidence based on how the system acts with or without the suspect simm. Even better is to only use motherboards that support parity and/or ECC, with parity/ecc simms/dimms. Then you catch most problems right away, rather than scratching your head (and doing the "if I twiddle this knob, it seems to reduce the problem... I think"). -- Zach Heilig / Zach Heilig To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jan 15 12:17:35 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA05205 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 12:17:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from whizzo.transsys.com (whizzo.TransSys.COM [144.202.42.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA05187 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 12:17:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from louie@whizzo.transsys.com) Received: from whizzo.transsys.com (localhost.transsys.com [127.0.0.1]) by whizzo.transsys.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA55837; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 15:11:36 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from louie@whizzo.transsys.com) Message-Id: <199901152011.PAA55837@whizzo.transsys.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Mike Smith cc: Poul-Henning Kamp , Jaye Mathisen , current@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Louis A. Mamakos" Subject: Re: Can the bootloader create a file or set a flag in the bootblocks? References: <199901151823.KAA01489@dingo.cdrom.com> In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 15 Jan 1999 10:23:16 PST." <199901151823.KAA01489@dingo.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 15:11:36 -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've been thinking about this same thing, and I thought that relatively static fallback list of environments plus an (persistant) index to tell you what you've tried so far might work. I was considering stealing a byte from the RTC CMOS to hold the state between reboots. louie To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jan 15 12:18:15 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA05285 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 12:18:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from singularity.enigami.com (singularity.enigami.com [208.140.182.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA05280 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 12:18:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ckempf@singularity.enigami.com) Received: (from ckempf@localhost) by singularity.enigami.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) id PAA19179; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 15:18:10 -0500 (EST) To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: umount: permission denied as root? From: Cory Kempf Date: 15 Jan 1999 15:18:10 -0500 In-Reply-To: Brian Feldman's message of "Fri, 15 Jan 1999 14:56:54 -0500 (EST)" Message-ID: Lines: 28 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/XEmacs 20.4 - "Emerald" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I recently purchased an optical drive for doing backups. After doing a backup, I naturally flipped the switch to write protect. At a later point, I needed to restore some files from the backup, and so, stuck the disk back in, and mounted it. When I was done, the disk wouldn't unmount. When I tried, umount came back with a 'permission denied'. At the time, I was root. (If root doesn't have permission, who does?!) The problem was in my /etc/fstab file, I had the following: /dev/da1c /backup ufs rw 0 0 OK, so it is my fault, I should have mounted it read-only. Unfortunately, it took a reboot to get the disk out of the drive! So, I am thinking that perhaps the code should be made more robust? +C -- Thinking of purchasing RAM from the Chip Merchant? Please read this first: Cory Kempf Macintosh / Unix Consulting & Software Development ckempf@enigami.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jan 15 12:19:09 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA05511 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 12:19:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA05502 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 12:19:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA02138; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 12:09:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199901152009.MAA02138@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Brian Feldman cc: Mike Smith , Poul-Henning Kamp , Jaye Mathisen , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Can the bootloader create a file or set a flag in the bootblocks? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 15 Jan 1999 15:08:06 EST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 12:09:28 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > It needs to be a general solution, and see above, again, for the things > > it needs to be able to do. > > So for FFS, it could be stored in the superblock, label, or one of the other > structures that aren't actually inodes, right? For FAT, couldn't it be stored in > either the FAT or the volume name? TFTP and NFS are both non-local, but still > have writing capabilities built in. No, it needs to be in a file so that it can be simply manipulated from userland. Remember, the writable list is: - FFS - FAT - NFS - TFTP -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jan 15 12:23:58 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA05907 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 12:23:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from janus.syracuse.net (janus.syracuse.net [205.232.47.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA05900 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 12:23:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from green@unixhelp.org) Received: from localhost (green@localhost) by janus.syracuse.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA07361; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 15:23:56 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 15:23:56 -0500 (EST) From: Brian Feldman X-Sender: green@janus.syracuse.net To: Cory Kempf cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: umount: permission denied as root? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 15 Jan 1999, Cory Kempf wrote: > > I recently purchased an optical drive for doing backups. After doing a > backup, I naturally flipped the switch to write protect. > > At a later point, I needed to restore some files from the backup, and > so, stuck the disk back in, and mounted it. > > When I was done, the disk wouldn't unmount. When I tried, umount > came back with a 'permission denied'. At the time, I was root. (If > root doesn't have permission, who does?!) > > The problem was in my /etc/fstab file, I had the following: > > /dev/da1c /backup ufs rw 0 0 > > OK, so it is my fault, I should have mounted it read-only. > Unfortunately, it took a reboot to get the disk out of the drive! > > So, I am thinking that perhaps the code should be made more robust? > I had this exact problem with my LS-120 a week or so ago. Here's a reenaction (yes, I'm doing this in real life now to verify it's working) {"/home/green"}# mount /floppy {"/home/green"}# umount /floppy umount: /floppy: Input/output error {"/home/green"}# mount | grep flop /dev/wfd0a on /floppy (local, writes: sync 2 async 2) {"/home/green"}# # d'oh! It's write-protected. {"/home/green"}# mount -u -o ro /floppy {"/home/green"}# umount /floppy {"/home/green"}# Hope I helped! > +C > > -- > Thinking of purchasing RAM from the Chip Merchant? > Please read this first: > > Cory Kempf Macintosh / Unix Consulting & Software Development > ckempf@enigami.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > Brian Feldman _ __ ___ ___ ___ green@unixhelp.org _ __ ___ | _ ) __| \ http://www.freebsd.org/ _ __ ___ ____ | _ \__ \ |) | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! _ __ ___ ____ _____ |___/___/___/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jan 15 12:32:51 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA07109 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 12:32:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from frmug.org (frmug-gw.frmug.org [193.56.58.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA07066 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 12:32:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from roberto@keltia.freenix.fr) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by frmug.org (8.9.1/frmug-2.3/nospam) with UUCP id VAA13936 for current@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 21:32:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from roberto@keltia.freenix.fr) Received: by keltia.freenix.fr (Postfix, from userid 101) id 3FF1E1573; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 20:46:05 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 20:46:05 +0100 From: Ollivier Robert To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CTM <> CVSUP differences Message-ID: <19990115204605.A13803@keltia.freenix.fr> Mail-Followup-To: current@FreeBSD.ORG References: <19990115150718.A66695@dva.in-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: <19990115150718.A66695@dva.in-berlin.de>; from Boris Staeblow on Fri, Jan 15, 1999 at 03:07:18PM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT/ELF ctm#4931 AMD-K6 MMX @ 200 MHz Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG According to Boris Staeblow: > Is it possible that there are slight differences between the > CTM's and the "real world" ? There should not be. > Is CTM a little neglient when the diffs are generated? I cannot say anything else than it has been working for me for several years and the few times it blew up was when some fairly large problem hit the CTM generator and it happened only once in one or two years. In fact, it has been very stable for several thousand of generated chunks. cvs-cur is now at the following level and I don't remember when tha last problem was (problem as in badly generated chunks)... -rw------- 1 nobody wheel 728351 Jan 15 19:08 cvs-cur.4987.gz -rw------- 1 nobody wheel 388427 Jan 15 19:08 cvs-cur.4988.gz -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! -=- roberto@keltia.freenix.fr FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 3.0-CURRENT #67: Tue Dec 29 20:24:02 CET 1998 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jan 15 12:46:40 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA09376 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 12:46:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (fallout.campusview.indiana.edu [149.159.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA09363 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 12:46:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jfieber@fallout.campusview.indiana.edu) Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA35284; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 15:46:14 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 15:46:14 -0500 (EST) From: John Fieber To: Karl Pielorz cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Still safe to do a remote 'installworld'? In-Reply-To: <369F776A.138BAAB3@tdx.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 15 Jan 1999, Karl Pielorz wrote: > Am I still safe to do the equivalent of a 'remote' install world? - I have 2 x > 3.0 boxes, one which is fresh 3.0-RELEASE, the other which is 3.0-CURRENT... > If I take the /usr/src & /usr/obj directories from sucsessful 'buildworld' on > the -current machine can I run an 'installworld' on the -release machine? I've done that a number of times in the last month or two. Works like a charm. One thing to watch out for is that kernel's are now ELF which means you must install the new bootblocks on the -release machine first. Also check out the mergemaster port for a handy way to update /etc. -john To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jan 15 12:52:31 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA10437 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 12:52:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (fallout.campusview.indiana.edu [149.159.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA10427 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 12:52:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jfieber@fallout.campusview.indiana.edu) Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA35301; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 15:52:07 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 15:52:07 -0500 (EST) From: John Fieber To: Igor Shulgin cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD 3.0-RELEASE & Apache 1.3.2 problem In-Reply-To: <015501be40af$af8d9aa0$870636c3@igorsh.garural.chel.su> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 15 Jan 1999, Igor Shulgin wrote: > What I have done wrong? > Is it possible to run Apache 1.3.x on FreeBSD 3.0 ? Yes but you need to install a more recent port or package. The conversion to ELF tripped up a few things like Apache that didn't know about ELF FreeBSD systems. That is all fixed now. (See the FreeBSD FAQ for more info about the ELF conversion) -john To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jan 15 14:27:18 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA24205 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 14:27:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from alcanet.com.au (border.alcanet.com.au [203.62.196.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA24182 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 14:27:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter.jeremy@auss2.alcatel.com.au) Received: by border.alcanet.com.au id <40330>; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 09:26:24 +1100 Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 09:27:01 +1100 From: Peter Jeremy Subject: Re: Weird file corruption? To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Message-Id: <99Jan16.092624est.40330@border.alcanet.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Zach Heilig wrote: >Except simm checkers don't always catch errors, so if the simm passes, >there still is no guarantee (but simm checkers do weed out obvious >duds quicker than trying in a system). Unfortunately, there is no >conclusive test [that I know about] to prove a simm is "good". I'd agree with that. The guts of a DRAM (or any type) is high-speed analog circuitry with delicate multi-phase clocking (the external clocks and selects are internally subdivided into maybe 20 phases). There can be pattern-sensitive crosstalk between rows or columns that depends on inter-access timings - or even how long since a particular row was refreshed. I suspect it's impossible to prove that a SIMM is good - there are two many combinations to test. >Even better is to only use motherboards that support parity and/or ECC, >with parity/ecc simms/dimms. This is the only practical way to detect memory problems. A subsidiary problem is that, unlike say Solaris, FreeBSD doesn't automatically report ECC errors. Without this, your memory controller can be furiously correcting a hard single-bit error and die when it glitches to a double-bit error. Someone did post a script that checked and cleared the relevant register in an i440 several months ago, but I seem to have mislaid both the script and reference :-(. Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jan 15 14:48:35 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA26771 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 14:48:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from shell2.la.best.com (shell2.la.best.com [209.24.216.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA26760; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 14:48:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nugundam@shell2.la.best.com) Received: (from nugundam@localhost) by shell2.la.best.com (8.9.2/8.9.2/best.sh) id OAA04207; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 14:48:18 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <19990115144818.A4150@la.best.com> Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 14:48:18 -0800 From: "Joseph T. Lee" To: jbryant@unix.tfs.net, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Forward all spam to UCE@FTC.GOV References: <199901140136.TAA35796@unix.tfs.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <199901140136.TAA35796@unix.tfs.net>; from Jim Bryant on Wed, Jan 13, 1999 at 07:36:35PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Jan 13, 1999 at 07:36:35PM -0600, Jim Bryant wrote: > This announcement is located on the Federal Trade Commission's > complaint form page http://www.ftc.gov/ftc/complaint.htm I've been using the address for over half a year.. Nada for response nor spam reduction. So I just tightened up my procmail filters instead.. -- Joseph nugundam =best=com==/==\=IIGS=/==\=Playstation=/==\=Civic HX CVT=/==\ # Anime Expo 1998 >> www.anime-expo.org/ > # Redline Games >> www.redlinegames.com/ > # Cal-Animage Epsilon >> www.best.com/~nugundam/epsilon/ > # EX: The Online World of Anime & Manga >> www.ex.org/ / To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jan 15 15:15:06 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA29831 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 15:15:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cepheus.azstarnet.com (cepheus.azstarnet.com [169.197.56.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA29820 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 15:15:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nje@azstarnet.com) Received: from black-hole (black-hole.azstarnet.com [169.197.53.211]) by cepheus.azstarnet.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id QAA05610 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 16:13:03 -0700 (MST) X-Sent-via: StarNet http://www.azstarnet.com/ Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 16:17:28 -0700 (MST) From: Nicholas Esborn X-Sender: nje@black-hole To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Diskless NFS boot stopping at rootfs Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm trying to adapt a working 2.2.6 diskless booting arrangement to 3.0, for both clients and the server. The client machines load the kernel just fine, then I see NFS ROOT: 10.0.0.1:/export/boot/fs which is correct, but the process stops there. It doesn't get any further. I'm not sure if the machine is successfully mounting the root fs or not. There is no error after timeout, the client's IP does respond to pings. I have no configured swap, and while all the configurations I have seen did have nfs swap, my setup worked under 2.2.6 without it and I'd prefer to avoid it. Following is all the info that seemed pertinent. These configs are with very few changes (IP numbers and such) the ones that worked under 2.2.6. If you reply, please reply to me directly, I'm not subscribed to the list. Thank you in advance for your help. --- My 3.0 kernel config for the clients: machine "i386" cpu "I586_CPU" ident SNX maxusers 16 options NO_SWAPPING options BOOTP options BOOTP_NFSROOT options INET #InterNETworking options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options MFS #Memory Filesystem options NFS #Network Filesystem options NFS_ROOT #NFS usable as root device, "NFS" req'ed options PROCFS #Process filesystem options "COMPAT_43" #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console options FAILSAFE #Be conservative options USERCONFIG #boot -c editor options VISUAL_USERCONFIG #visual boot -c editor config kernel root on wd0 controller isa0 controller eisa0 controller pci0 device sc0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" conflicts tty irq 1 vector scintr device npx0 at isa? port "IO_NPX" irq 13 vector npxintr device sio0 at isa? port "IO_COM1" flags 0x10 tty irq 4 vector siointr device sio1 at isa? port "IO_COM2" tty irq 3 vector siointr device psm0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" conflicts tty irq 12 vector psmintr device ed0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 5 iomem 0xd8000 vector edintr pseudo-device loop pseudo-device ether pseudo-device pty 16 pseudo-device gzip # Exec gzipped a.out's options KTRACE #kernel tracing options SYSVSHM --- A sample entry from my bootptab: dslsupport01:\ :ht=ether:\ :ha=00400568cd52:\ :sm=255.255.255.0:\ :hn:\ :ip=10.0.0.31:\ :gw=10.0.0.1:\ :rp=/export/boot/fs:\ :bf=kernel:\ :td=/export/boot/fs:\ :vm=rfc1048: --- A sample tftp config file: rootfs 10.0.0.1:/export/boot/fs hostname dslsupport01 --- The contents of the clients /etc/rc file: #!/bin/sh PATH=/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/X11R6/bin export PATH TERM=vt100 export TERM clear echo; echo; echo echo "Please be patient while the system comes up..." echo; echo; echo #/sbin/ldconfig /usr/lib /usr/lib/compat /usr/X11R6/lib ifconfig lo0 127.0.0.1 #mount -t nfs -u 10.0.0.1:/export/boot/fs / mount -a #if [ -f /dev/audio ]; then /usr/X11R6/bin/au :8086 -aa & echo "Starting auserver on port 8086..." #fi while [ 1 -eq 1 ]; do /usr/X11R6/bin/XF86_S3V -bpp 16 -query deimos done --- The contents of the clients /etc/fstab: 10.0.0.1:/export/boot/fs / nfs ro 0 0 10.0.0.1:/export/boot/dev /dev nfs rw 0 0 /dev/null /tmp mfs rw,-T=tmp 0 0 --- Nicholas Esborn | www.azstarnet.com | StarNet (520) 618-RTFM | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jan 15 17:34:29 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA15122 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 17:34:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from picnic.mat.net (picnic.mat.net [206.246.122.117]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA15110; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 17:34:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chuckr@mat.net) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost) by picnic.mat.net (8.9.1/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA01194; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 20:33:24 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 20:33:24 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Robey To: Satoshi Asami cc: skynyrd@opus.cts.cwu.edu, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NFS woes: getting worse? In-Reply-To: <199901150811.AAA25308@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 15 Jan 1999, Satoshi Asami wrote: > * From: asami@FreeBSD.ORG (Satoshi Asami) > * > * * From: Chris Timmons > * > * * make: don't know how to make Makefiles. Stop > * > * I've seen similar things, but they went away when I reduced the load > * (other compilations in my case) on the server. How busy is your > * server? > > Forgot to mention, this happens with a read-only NFS tree too. I was > running builds on the client with a shared /usr/ports and WRKDIRPREFIX > pointing to a local directory, and the build will topple over in the > middle unable to find a Makefile on the server or something. > > That is the problem that went away with the server load. I'm a day late in reading my mail, but on a machine I just finished upgrading to current, with nfs mounted /usr/ports, I had identical problems. When I used WRKDIRPREFIX to stick the build directories somewhere local, the problem disappeared. I haven't yet taken a close enough look at nfs options (mount options) to see if I can tweak it out. I sure enough have a pretty good test platform for it. My initial guess is that writes aren't completing; Makefiles built using Imake from ports are missing the last few K, which causes all the errors. ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@glue.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and picnic (FreeBSD-current) (301) 220-2114 | and jaunt (NetBSD). ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jan 15 17:47:48 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA16746 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 17:47:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from picnic.mat.net (picnic.mat.net [206.246.122.117]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA16741 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 17:47:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chuckr@mat.net) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost) by picnic.mat.net (8.9.1/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA01231; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 20:46:23 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 20:46:23 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Robey To: Boris Staeblow cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CTM <> CVSUP differences In-Reply-To: <19990115150718.A66695@dva.in-berlin.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 15 Jan 1999, Boris Staeblow wrote: > Hello, > > I'm using ctm-cvs for synchronizing my CVS-Tree. > But sometimes I get MD5 checksum errors when apllying the ctm's. > To resynchronize my ctm's with the CVS-Tree i have to use cvsup at > ctm.freebsd.org with the option "strictrcs". Many files have to > be retransmitted and many fixup's appear. > > Is it possible that there are slight differences between the > CTM's and the "real world" ? > > Is CTM a little neglient when the diffs are generated? CTM is remarkably stable. In running it 3 years (I stopped about 4 months ago when my net connection improved) I had only 1 stoppage, a well known one caused by someone messing witht he archive. If you're getting problems like this on a regular basis, then you *really* ought to either consider your environment. Are you using any other tool besides ctm to touch your cvs archive? Are you doing commits locally? CTM won't allow anything but ctm alone to modify the tree, no exceptions whatsoever. In terms of convenience, cvsup is supreme, but in terms of stability, Poul's baby here is the champ, so you have to really consider other places of corruption first. ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@glue.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and picnic (FreeBSD-current) (301) 220-2114 | and jaunt (NetBSD). ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jan 15 18:04:39 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA18763 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 18:04:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from janus.syracuse.net (janus.syracuse.net [205.232.47.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA18758 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 18:04:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from green@unixhelp.org) Received: from localhost (green@localhost) by janus.syracuse.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA26206 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 21:04:41 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 21:04:41 -0500 (EST) From: Brian Feldman X-Sender: green@janus.syracuse.net To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: trap in ufs_lookup Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've got a crash in ufs_lookup, and I'm trying to assess responsibility. I use SoftUpdates on all drives and _MAY_ have some bad RAM. This crash was during a make -j4 -DNOCLEAN world, and maybe it may be due to SoftUpdates not completely having finished the dir, but I'm thinking it could've been RAM corruption. Someone help me :) GDB is free software and you are welcome to distribute copies of it under certain conditions; type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB; type "show warranty" for details. GDB 4.16 (i386-unknown-freebsd), Copyright 1996 Free Software Foundation, Inc... IdlePTD 2899968 initial pcb at 2425ec panicstr: vm_fault: fault on nofault entry, addr: f3748000 panic messages: --- panic: vm_fault: fault on nofault entry, addr: f3748000 syncing disks... 234 232 223 198 167 150 123 92 63 19 11 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 givin g up dumping to dev 30001, offset 40960 dump 79 78 77 76 75 74 73 72 71 70 69 68 67 66 65 64 63 62 61 60 59 58 57 56 55 54 53 52 51 50 49 48 47 46 45 44 43 42 41 40 39 38 37 36 35 34 33 32 31 30 29 28 27 26 25 24 23 22 21 20 19 18 17 16 15 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 --- #0 boot (howto=256) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:285 285 dumppcb.pcb_cr3 = rcr3(); (kgdb) bt #0 boot (howto=256) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:285 #1 0xf01383d5 in panic ( fmt=0xf0211d86 "vm_fault: fault on nofault entry, addr: %lx") at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:446 #2 0xf01a297e in vm_fault (map=0xf025e014, vaddr=4084498432, fault_type=1 '\001', fault_flags=0) at ../../vm/vm_fault.c:232 #3 0xf01da750 in trap_pfault (frame=0xf7c46cd0, usermode=0, eva=4084499165) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:824 #4 0xf01da3f2 in trap (frame={tf_es = 16, tf_ds = 16, tf_edi = 21209, tf_esi = -247132928, tf_ebp = -138121840, tf_isp = -138121992, tf_ebx = -210468135, tf_edx = -222954112, tf_ecx = 8191, tf_eax = 37593, tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = 0, tf_eip = -266750417, tf_cs = 8, tf_eflags = 66178, tf_esp = -138278720, tf_ss = -138121524}) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:437 #5 0xf019b62f in ufs_lookup (ap=0xf7c46dcc) at ../../ufs/ufs/ufs_lookup.c:238 #6 0xf01a03e9 in ufs_vnoperate (ap=0xf7c46dcc) at ../../ufs/ufs/ufs_vnops.c:2294 #7 0xf0157f30 in vfs_cache_lookup (ap=0xf7c46e28) at vnode_if.h:55 #8 0xf01a03e9 in ufs_vnoperate (ap=0xf7c46e28) at ../../ufs/ufs/ufs_vnops.c:2294 #9 0xf015a405 in lookup (ndp=0xf7c46ea8) at vnode_if.h:31 #10 0xf0159ed8 in namei (ndp=0xf7c46ea8) at ../../kern/vfs_lookup.c:152 #11 0xf015f5a0 in stat (p=0xf7b8b3c0, uap=0xf7c46f84) ---Type to continue, or q to quit--- at ../../kern/vfs_syscalls.c:1614 #12 0xf01dad47 in syscall (frame={tf_es = 39, tf_ds = 39, tf_edi = 136292736, tf_esi = 0, tf_ebp = -272644404, tf_isp = -138121260, tf_ebx = 134749056, tf_edx = 12, tf_ecx = 134749056, tf_eax = 188, tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = 2, tf_eip = 134580048, tf_cs = 31, tf_eflags = 582, tf_esp = -272644524, tf_ss = 39}) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:1100 #13 0xf01cd85c in Xint0x80_syscall () #14 0x8050303 in ?? () #15 0x8049761 in ?? () #16 0x8057a79 in ?? () #17 0x8057a45 in ?? () #18 0x80496e8 in ?? () #19 0x8057a79 in ?? () #20 0x8057a45 in ?? () #21 0x80496e8 in ?? () #22 0x8057a79 in ?? () #23 0x8057a45 in ?? () #24 0x80496e8 in ?? () #25 0x8049aa0 in ?? () #26 0x804fd0f in ?? () #27 0x80480e9 in ?? () (kgdb) frame 5 #5 0xf019b62f in ufs_lookup (ap=0xf7c46dcc) at ../../ufs/ufs/ufs_lookup.c:238 238 ep = (struct direct *)((char *)bp->b_data + entryoffseti nblock); (kgdb) l 233 * Full validation checks are slow, so we only check 234 * enough to insure forward progress through the 235 * directory. Complete checks can be run by patching 236 * "dirchk" to be true. 237 */ 238 ep = (struct direct *)((char *)bp->b_data + entryoffseti nblock); 239 if (ep->d_reclen == 0 || 240 (dirchk && ufs_dirbadentry(vdp, ep, entryoffsetinblo ck))) { 241 int i; 242 (kgdb) printf "%p + %d\n", bp->b_data, entryoffset^Ht^Ginblock 0xf3743000 + 21209 (kgdb) printf "%d: %s\n", p->p_pid ^H ^H, p->p_comm 68863: make #relevant code: bmask = VFSTOUFS(vdp->v_mount)->um_mountp->mnt_stat.f_iosize - 1; if (nameiop != LOOKUP || dp->i_diroff == 0 || dp->i_diroff > dp->i_size) { entryoffsetinblock = 0; dp->i_offset = 0; numdirpasses = 1; } else { dp->i_offset = dp->i_diroff; if ((entryoffsetinblock = dp->i_offset & bmask) && (error = UFS_BLKATOFF(vdp, (off_t)dp->i_offset, NULL, &bp))) return (error); numdirpasses = 2; nchstats.ncs_2passes++; } (kgdb) printf "i_offset %d & bmask %d = %d\n", dp->i_offset, bmask, (dp->i_offset & bmask) i_offset 37593 & bmask 8191 = 4825 (kgdb) quit Brian Feldman _ __ ___ ___ ___ green@unixhelp.org _ __ ___ | _ ) __| \ http://www.freebsd.org/ _ __ ___ ____ | _ \__ \ |) | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! _ __ ___ ____ _____ |___/___/___/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jan 15 19:14:50 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA23875 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 19:14:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.196.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA23868 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 19:14:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (IDENT:75Sk0LxoVLD1patYtdQc8u5P5gTFH2kI@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA21397; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 12:14:30 +0900 (JST) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.7.6+2.6Wbeta7/3.4W/zodiac-May96) with ESMTP id MAA01996; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 12:17:01 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199901160317.MAA01996@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> To: Kelvin cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp Subject: Re: splash screen & xdm In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 15 Jan 1999 11:54:08 EST." <369F72B0.4577EA3F@trentu.ca> References: <369F72B0.4577EA3F@trentu.ca> Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 12:17:00 +0900 From: Kazutaka YOKOTA Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >It seems that if the splash screen image is not cleared (ie: press any >key) before xdm starts up then once logged in the user is unable to >switch to a vitual terminal (ie: ctrl-alt-f1 etc), and it just beeps >when those keys are pressed. >Solution? Putting the command kldunload splash_bmp before the line that >loads xdm seems to work. Is this a bug or just the way things are? Definitely a bug. Which version of the X server are you using? Did you see any error message when this happened? /var/log/messages* may reveal something. Kazu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jan 15 20:07:26 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA28003 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 20:07:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from lab321.ru (anonymous1.omsk.net.ru [62.76.128.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA27889 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 20:05:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kev@lab321.ru) Received: (from kev@localhost) by lab321.ru (8.8.8/8.9.1a) id KAA18082; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 10:03:57 +0600 (OS) Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 10:03:57 +0600 (OS) From: Eugeny Kuzakov Message-Id: <199901160403.KAA18082@lab321.ru> To: Kelvin , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: splash screen & xdm X-Newsgroups: local.maillist.FreeBSD.freebsd-current In-Reply-To: <77nsat$stb$1@lab321.ru> Organization: Powered by FreeBSD. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ÷Ù ÐÉÓÁÌÉ: > It seems that if the splash screen image is not cleared (ie: press any > key) before xdm starts up then once logged in the user is unable to > switch to a vitual terminal (ie: ctrl-alt-f1 etc), and it just beeps > when those keys are pressed. > Solution? Putting the command kldunload splash_bmp before the line that > loads xdm seems to work. Is this a bug or just the way things are? My current has not this bug. All works Ok. xdm starts by init (ttys). -- Best wishes, Eugeny http://coredumped.null.ru CoreDumped@CoreDumped.null.ru ICQ#: 5885106 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jan 15 20:16:03 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA28972 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 20:16:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from janus.syracuse.net (janus.syracuse.net [205.232.47.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA28941 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 20:15:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from green@unixhelp.org) Received: from localhost (green@localhost) by janus.syracuse.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA03239; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:11:37 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:11:36 -0500 (EST) From: Brian Feldman X-Sender: green@janus.syracuse.net To: Eugeny Kuzakov cc: Kelvin , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: splash screen & xdm In-Reply-To: <199901160403.KAA18082@lab321.ru> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id UAA28968 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 16 Jan 1999, Eugeny Kuzakov wrote: > ÷Ù ÐÉÓÁÌÉ: > > It seems that if the splash screen image is not cleared (ie: press any > > key) before xdm starts up then once logged in the user is unable to > > switch to a vitual terminal (ie: ctrl-alt-f1 etc), and it just beeps > > when those keys are pressed. > > Solution? Putting the command kldunload splash_bmp before the line that > > loads xdm seems to work. Is this a bug or just the way things are? > My current has not this bug. All works Ok. > xdm starts by init (ttys). Do you have in rc.conf a screen saver or possibly vidcontrol flags defined? > > -- > Best wishes, Eugeny > http://coredumped.null.ru > CoreDumped@CoreDumped.null.ru > ICQ#: 5885106 > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > Brian Feldman _ __ ___ ___ ___ green@unixhelp.org _ __ ___ | _ ) __| \ http://www.freebsd.org/ _ __ ___ ____ | _ \__ \ |) | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! _ __ ___ ____ _____ |___/___/___/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jan 15 20:23:42 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA29921 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 20:23:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ivory.trentu.ca (trentu.ca [192.75.12.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA29915 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 20:23:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kfarmer@trentu.ca) Received: from trentu.ca ([192.75.12.156]) by trentu.ca (PMDF V5.1-10 #22248) with ESMTP id <01J6L5M3MLUO004AQP@trentu.ca> for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:23:38 EST Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:25:25 -0500 From: Kelvin Farmer Subject: Re: [Fwd: splash screen & xdm] To: yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: <36A014B5.5A7F15E5@trentu.ca> Organization: Trent University MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en References: <36A00BE2.B7DB46AC@trentu.ca> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > >It seems that if the splash screen image is not cleared (ie: press any > >key) before xdm starts up then once logged in the user is unable to > >switch to a vitual terminal (ie: ctrl-alt-f1 etc), and it just beeps > >when those keys are pressed. > >Solution? Putting the command kldunload splash_bmp before the line that > >loads xdm seems to work. Is this a bug or just the way things are? > > Definitely a bug. > > Which version of the X server are you using? 3.3.3.1 and, if it helps, my video card is detected as: vga0: rev 0x02 int a irq 11 on pci0.17.0 sc0 on isa sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> vga0 at 0x3b0-0x3df maddr 0xa0000 msize 131072 on isa > Did you see any error message when this happened? /var/log/messages* > may reveal something. nothing produced in /var/log/messages, nothing on xconsole After logging out of the x session, (back to xdm) it beeps and logs: "xf86OpenConsole: VT_ACTIVATE failed" in xdm-errors, but xdm still seems to work okay, and you can log back in. If you reboot, then it exits to a colourfull set of ascii characters, and blocks of coloured in rectangles, (as if its still trying to display the splash screen) and reboots normally. It doesn't seem to matter if xdm is started from /etc/ttys or /etc/rc.local If the splash screen IS cleared before xdm starts, then there is no problem... Last make update, make world & kernel: Fri, Jan. 15. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jan 15 20:24:34 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA00124 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 20:24:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ozz.etrust.ru (ozz.etrust.ru [195.2.84.116]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA00104 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 20:24:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from osa@etrust.ru) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ozz.etrust.ru (8.9.2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA09051 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 07:24:02 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from osa@etrust.ru) Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 07:24:02 +0300 (MSK) From: oZZ!!! To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Can't compile new kernel after CVSup... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello! After cvsuped my source tree, i try to compile a new kernel, & c following: # config -r # cd ../../compile/ # make depend # make ............ cc -c -O -Wreturn-type -Wcomment -Wredundant-decls -Wimplicit -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wuninitialized -Wformat -Wunused -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -DKERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf ../../libkern/umoddi3.c cc -c -O -Wreturn-type -Wcomment -Wredundant-decls -Wimplicit -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wuninitialized -Wformat -Wunused -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -DKERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf ../../pci/es1370.c ../../pci/es1370.c:150: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type ../../i386/isa/snd/ulaw.h:40: warning: `dsp_ulaw' defined but not used cc -c -O -Wreturn-type -Wcomment -Wredundant-decls -Wimplicit -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wuninitialized -Wformat -Wunused -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -DKERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf ../../pci/ide_pci.c ../../pci/ide_pci.c: In function `ide_pci_candma': ../../pci/ide_pci.c:1462: structure has no member named `ctrlr' *** Error code 1 Stop. Something wrong? Rgdz, ïÓÏËÉÎ óÅÒÇÅÊ aka oZZ, osa@etrust.ru P.S. 16.01.1999 - 4 days before 3.0-STABLE? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jan 15 20:25:45 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA00281 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 20:25:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from send103.yahoomail.com (send103.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.92]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA00266 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 20:25:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ixkatl@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <19990116042746.27277.rocketmail@send103.yahoomail.com> Received: from [207.172.145.77] by send103.yahoomail.com; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 20:27:46 PST Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 20:27:46 -0800 (PST) From: Andrew Sherrod Subject: Disk Geometry Patch. Could someone test this on -current. To: current@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="0-1918502651-916460866=:23202" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --0-1918502651-916460866=:23202 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline I have found several people using IDE disks on newer Award BIOSes have trouble getting the boot-time probes and installation routines to recognize the correct disk geometry. If anyone is running 3.0 (or 2.2.x) on a machine with Award BIOS using IDE drives with LBA turned off in the kernel configuration, and if you have trouble getting dmesg/boot probes to recognize the proper disk size, could you test the attached patch for me? I would also like to find testers with ANY BIOS that reports a disk size too small. I think my patch will correct most problems with IDE geometry showing as smaller than it actually is. (I don't make any claims about geometries being reported as too large, or SCSI disks...) Thanks to anyone who can help. Andrew Sherrod P.S. I know this is not a really big problem, but it always seemed a bit insulting that FreeBSD had to rely on DOS boot sectors to get the correct disk geometry. I would rather that we could identify the correct geometry without having to rely on another OS. And, face it, for newbies and those not terribly computer literate, getting the right geometry during installation is a very nice feature. It is rather disheartening for a new-comer to find out that their new operating system can't even identify the correct disk geometry. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com --0-1918502651-916460866=:23202 Content-Type: text/plain; name="mail.txt" Content-Description: mail.txt Content-Disposition: inline; filename="mail.txt" ------------------------------------------------- PR: i386/9431 ------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------- Patch for 2.2.8 (May also workfor 2.2.6/2.2.7) ------------------------------------------------- *** wd.c.2_2_8 Wed Jan 13 21:07:30 1999 --- wd.c.original.2_2_8 Wed Jan 13 21:08:24 1999 *************** *** 113,122 **** #define WDOPT_FORCEHD(x) (((x)&0x0f00)>>8) #define WDOPT_MULTIMASK 0x00ff - /* This bit mask is used to determine if the drive supports LBA addressing. */ - - #define WDCAP_LBA 0x02 - /* * This biotab field doubles as a field for the physical unit number on * the controller. --- 113,118 ---- *************** *** 1731,1745 **** du->dk_dd.d_nsectors = wp->wdp_sectors; du->dk_dd.d_secpercyl = du->dk_dd.d_ntracks * du->dk_dd.d_nsectors; du->dk_dd.d_secperunit = du->dk_dd.d_secpercyl * du->dk_dd.d_ncylinders; ! ! /* Check for BIOS LBA flag. This should allow kernel to determine ! actual disk geometry for diffiuclt BIOSes. ! This will likely only be of use during initial installation, or ! perhaps when configuring a new drive. Otherwise, the disk geometry ! should already be known. -A. Sherrod 01/13/1999*/ ! ! if ( ( (wp->wdp_capability&WDCAP_LBA) || ! (wp->wdp_cylinders == 16383 ) ) && du->dk_dd.d_secperunit < wp->wdp_lbasize) { du->dk_dd.d_secperunit = wp->wdp_lbasize; du->dk_dd.d_ncylinders = --- 1727,1733 ---- du->dk_dd.d_nsectors = wp->wdp_sectors; du->dk_dd.d_secpercyl = du->dk_dd.d_ntracks * du->dk_dd.d_nsectors; du->dk_dd.d_secperunit = du->dk_dd.d_secpercyl * du->dk_dd.d_ncylinders; ! if (wp->wdp_cylinders == 16383 && du->dk_dd.d_secperunit < wp->wdp_lbasize) { du->dk_dd.d_secperunit = wp->wdp_lbasize; du->dk_dd.d_ncylinders = ------------------------------------------------- Patch for 3.0 ------------------------------------------------- *** wd.c.3_0 Wed Jan 13 12:07:46 1999 --- wd.c.original.3_0 Wed Jan 13 11:17:54 1999 *************** *** 130,140 **** */ #define id_physid id_scsiid - /* This bitmask is used to determine if the BIOS flags showing LBA support - are active or inactive */ - - #define WDCAP_LBA 0x02 - /* * Drive states. Used to initialize drive. */ --- 130,135 ---- *************** *** 1954,1973 **** du->dk_dd.d_ntracks * du->dk_dd.d_nsectors; du->dk_dd.d_secperunit = du->dk_dd.d_secpercyl * du->dk_dd.d_ncylinders; ! ! /* If BIOS specifies LBA mode is supported, but LBA flags ! are not set, check if wdp_lbasize is larger than ! CHS size. If so, use the lba_size. ! This should fix problems with certain BIOSes (e.g. Award) ! which do not report the correct size when using only ! CHS calculations. ! This will not force the use of LBA mode. It is only ! used to determine disk geometry. ! ! -A. Sherrod 01/13/1999 */ ! ! if ( ( (wp->wdp_capabilities & WDCAP_LBA) || ! (wp->wdp_cylinders == 16383) ) && du->dk_dd.d_secperunit < wp->wdp_lbasize) { du->dk_dd.d_secperunit = wp->wdp_lbasize; du->dk_dd.d_ncylinders = --- 1949,1955 ---- du->dk_dd.d_ntracks * du->dk_dd.d_nsectors; du->dk_dd.d_secperunit = du->dk_dd.d_secpercyl * du->dk_dd.d_ncylinders; ! if (wp->wdp_cylinders == 16383 && du->dk_dd.d_secperunit < wp->wdp_lbasize) { du->dk_dd.d_secperunit = wp->wdp_lbasize; du->dk_dd.d_ncylinders = ------------------------------------------------- dmesg from 2.2.8 system before patch ------------------------------------------------- Copyright (c) 1992-1998 FreeBSD Inc. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE #6: Wed Jan 13 21:11:20 EST 1999 root@HAL9000.yaldabaoth.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/HAL CPU: AMD-K6(tm) 3D processor (350.80-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x580 Stepping=0 Features=0x8001bf real memory = 201326592 (196608K bytes) avail memory = 194924544 (190356K bytes) Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: chip0 rev 4 on pci0:0:0 chip1 rev 0 on pci0:1:0 chip2 rev 65 on pci0:7:0 pci0:7:1: VIA Technologies, device=0x0571, class=storage (ide) [no driver assigned] chip3 rev 16 on pci0:7:3 xl0 <3Com 3c905B Fast Etherlink XL 10/100BaseTX> rev 48 int a irq 11 on pci0:10:0 xl0: Ethernet address: 00:10:5a:20:9b:68 xl0: autoneg not complete, no carrier (forcing half-duplex, 10Mbps) Probing for devices on PCI bus 1: Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa sio0: type 8250 sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16550A lpt0 at 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa lpt0: Interrupt-driven port lp0: TCP/IP capable interface psm0 at 0x60-0x64 irq 12 on motherboard psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): wd0: 8063MB (16514064 sectors), 16383 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc0: unit 1 (wd1): wd1: 2014MB (4124736 sectors), 4092 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa wdc1: unit 0 (wd2): wd2: 1888MB (3866940 sectors), 4092 cyls, 15 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc1: unit 1 (atapi): , removable, intr, dma, iordis wcd0: 5512KB/sec, 256KB cache, audio play, 255 volume levels, ejectable tray wcd0: no disc inside, unlocked mcd0 not found at 0x300 npx0 flags 0x1 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface ------------------------------------------------- dmesg from 2.2.8 system after patch ------------------------------------------------- Copyright (c) 1992-1998 FreeBSD Inc. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE #7: Wed Jan 13 21:26:09 EST 1999 root@HAL9000.yaldabaoth.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/HAL CPU: AMD-K6(tm) 3D processor (350.80-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x580 Stepping=0 Features=0x8001bf real memory = 201326592 (196608K bytes) avail memory = 194924544 (190356K bytes) Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: chip0 rev 4 on pci0:0:0 chip1 rev 0 on pci0:1:0 chip2 rev 65 on pci0:7:0 pci0:7:1: VIA Technologies, device=0x0571, class=storage (ide) [no driver assigned] chip3 rev 16 on pci0:7:3 xl0 <3Com 3c905B Fast Etherlink XL 10/100BaseTX> rev 48 int a irq 11 on pci0:10:0 xl0: Ethernet address: 00:10:5a:20:9b:68 xl0: autoneg not complete, no carrier (forcing half-duplex, 10Mbps) Probing for devices on PCI bus 1: Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa sio0: type 8250 sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16550A lpt0 at 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa lpt0: Interrupt-driven port lp0: TCP/IP capable interface psm0 at 0x60-0x64 irq 12 on motherboard psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): wd0: 8063MB (16514064 sectors), 16383 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc0: unit 1 (wd1): wd1: 3020MB (6185088 sectors), 6136 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa wdc1: unit 0 (wd2): wd2: 4120MB (8439184 sectors), 8930 cyls, 15 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc1: unit 1 (atapi): , removable, intr, dma, iordis wcd0: 5512KB/sec, 256KB cache, audio play, 255 volume levels, ejectable tray wcd0: no disc inside, unlocked mcd0 not found at 0x300 npx0 flags 0x1 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface --0-1918502651-916460866=:23202-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jan 15 20:33:00 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA00740 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 20:33:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from lab321.ru (anonymous1.omsk.net.ru [62.76.128.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA00725 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 20:32:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kev@lab321.ru) Received: from www.lab321.ru (kev@www.lab321.ru [62.76.129.65]) by lab321.ru (8.8.8/8.9.1a) with SMTP id KAA21128; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 10:19:47 +0600 (OS) Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 10:19:46 +0600 (OS) From: Eugeny Kuzakov To: Brian Feldman cc: Kelvin , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: splash screen & xdm In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 15 Jan 1999, Brian Feldman wrote: > > > Solution? Putting the command kldunload splash_bmp before the line that > > > loads xdm seems to work. Is this a bug or just the way things are? > > My current has not this bug. All works Ok. > > xdm starts by init (ttys). > Do you have in rc.conf a screen saver or possibly vidcontrol flags defined? Saver ? Yes. saver="snake" # screen saver: Uses /modules/${saver}_saver.ko Are you about "allscreens_flags" ? No. -- Best wishes, Eugeny Kuzakov Laboratory 321 ( Omsk, Russia ) kev@lab321.ru ICQ#: 5885106 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jan 15 20:38:33 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA01266 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 20:38:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sand2.sentex.ca (sand2.sentex.ca [209.167.248.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA01261 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 20:38:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from gravel (ospf-wat.sentex.net [209.167.248.81]) by sand2.sentex.ca (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA29514 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:38:29 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990115234502.03335380@granite.sentex.ca> X-Sender: mdtancsa@granite.sentex.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:45:02 -0500 To: current@FreeBSD.ORG From: Mike Tancsa Subject: 3.0.1 soon ? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Just wondering if there is an updated timeline for 3.0.1 release ? ---Mike ********************************************************************** Mike Tancsa, Network Admin * mike@sentex.net Sentex Communications Corp, * http://www.sentex.net/mike Cambridge, Ontario * 01.519.651.3400 Canada * To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jan 15 20:50:26 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA02316 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 20:50:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from whistle.com (s205m131.whistle.com [207.76.205.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA02310 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 20:50:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from archie@whistle.com) Received: (from smap@localhost) by whistle.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id UAA08456; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 20:49:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from bubba.whistle.com( 207.76.205.7) by whistle.com via smap (V2.0) id xma008454; Fri, 15 Jan 99 20:49:18 -0800 Received: (from archie@localhost) by bubba.whistle.com (8.8.7/8.6.12) id UAA07916; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 20:49:18 -0800 (PST) From: Archie Cobbs Message-Id: <199901160449.UAA07916@bubba.whistle.com> Subject: Re: Can the bootloader create a file or set a flag in the bootblocks? In-Reply-To: from Jaye Mathisen at "Jan 15, 99 09:40:57 am" To: mrcpu@internetcds.com (Jaye Mathisen) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 20:49:18 -0800 (PST) Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jaye Mathisen writes: > It would be kind of cool if when managing a remote system if /kernel > failed to boot, then on the next boot, the loader will fire up > /kernel.old, or a /kernel.somethingorother. > > Sort of a kernel-clean flag. Then 300 miles away, I can try stuff, and > have at least some assurance that I'll eventually be able to get back to a > kernel I could use. In case in that discussion it wasn't clear, there *is* a way to do this: see man nextboot. -Archie ___________________________________________________________________________ Archie Cobbs * Whistle Communications, Inc. * http://www.whistle.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jan 15 21:02:16 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA03181 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 21:02:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from lor.watermarkgroup.com (lor.watermarkgroup.com [207.202.73.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA03176 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 21:02:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luoqi@watermarkgroup.com) Received: (from luoqi@localhost) by lor.watermarkgroup.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA20391; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 00:02:12 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from luoqi) Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 00:02:12 -0500 (EST) From: Luoqi Chen Message-Id: <199901160502.AAA20391@lor.watermarkgroup.com> To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, green@unixhelp.org Subject: Re: trap in ufs_lookup Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm pretty sure this is not softupdates related. It could either be bad RAM or a bad disk block, there is no way entryoffsetinblock could be 21209, the block size is only 8192. And you need over 2000 files to fill the directory to i_offset == 37593, assuming an average file name length of 10 bytes. -lq > I've got a crash in ufs_lookup, and I'm trying to assess responsibility. I > use SoftUpdates on all drives and _MAY_ have some bad RAM. This crash was > during a make -j4 -DNOCLEAN world, and maybe it may be due to SoftUpdates not > completely having finished the dir, but I'm thinking it could've been RAM > corruption. Someone help me :) > > GDB is free software and you are welcome to distribute copies of it > under certain conditions; type "show copying" to see the conditions. > There is absolutely no warranty for GDB; type "show warranty" for details. > GDB 4.16 (i386-unknown-freebsd), > Copyright 1996 Free Software Foundation, Inc... > IdlePTD 2899968 > initial pcb at 2425ec > panicstr: vm_fault: fault on nofault entry, addr: f3748000 > panic messages: > --- > panic: vm_fault: fault on nofault entry, addr: f3748000 > > syncing disks... 234 232 223 198 167 150 123 92 63 19 11 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 givin > g up > > dumping to dev 30001, offset 40960 > dump 79 78 77 76 75 74 73 72 71 70 69 68 67 66 65 64 63 62 61 60 59 58 57 56 55 > 54 53 52 51 50 49 48 47 46 45 44 43 42 41 40 39 38 37 36 35 34 33 32 31 30 29 28 > 27 26 25 24 23 22 21 20 19 18 17 16 15 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 > --- > #0 boot (howto=256) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:285 > 285 dumppcb.pcb_cr3 = rcr3(); > (kgdb) bt > #0 boot (howto=256) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:285 > #1 0xf01383d5 in panic ( > fmt=0xf0211d86 "vm_fault: fault on nofault entry, addr: %lx") > at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:446 > #2 0xf01a297e in vm_fault (map=0xf025e014, vaddr=4084498432, > fault_type=1 '\001', fault_flags=0) at ../../vm/vm_fault.c:232 > #3 0xf01da750 in trap_pfault (frame=0xf7c46cd0, usermode=0, eva=4084499165) > at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:824 > #4 0xf01da3f2 in trap (frame={tf_es = 16, tf_ds = 16, tf_edi = 21209, > tf_esi = -247132928, tf_ebp = -138121840, tf_isp = -138121992, > tf_ebx = -210468135, tf_edx = -222954112, tf_ecx = 8191, tf_eax = 37593, > tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = 0, tf_eip = -266750417, tf_cs = 8, > tf_eflags = 66178, tf_esp = -138278720, tf_ss = -138121524}) > at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:437 > #5 0xf019b62f in ufs_lookup (ap=0xf7c46dcc) at ../../ufs/ufs/ufs_lookup.c:238 > #6 0xf01a03e9 in ufs_vnoperate (ap=0xf7c46dcc) > at ../../ufs/ufs/ufs_vnops.c:2294 > #7 0xf0157f30 in vfs_cache_lookup (ap=0xf7c46e28) at vnode_if.h:55 > #8 0xf01a03e9 in ufs_vnoperate (ap=0xf7c46e28) > at ../../ufs/ufs/ufs_vnops.c:2294 > #9 0xf015a405 in lookup (ndp=0xf7c46ea8) at vnode_if.h:31 > #10 0xf0159ed8 in namei (ndp=0xf7c46ea8) at ../../kern/vfs_lookup.c:152 > #11 0xf015f5a0 in stat (p=0xf7b8b3c0, uap=0xf7c46f84) > ---Type to continue, or q to quit--- > at ../../kern/vfs_syscalls.c:1614 > #12 0xf01dad47 in syscall (frame={tf_es = 39, tf_ds = 39, tf_edi = 136292736, > tf_esi = 0, tf_ebp = -272644404, tf_isp = -138121260, > tf_ebx = 134749056, tf_edx = 12, tf_ecx = 134749056, tf_eax = 188, > tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = 2, tf_eip = 134580048, tf_cs = 31, > tf_eflags = 582, tf_esp = -272644524, tf_ss = 39}) > at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:1100 > #13 0xf01cd85c in Xint0x80_syscall () > #14 0x8050303 in ?? () > #15 0x8049761 in ?? () > #16 0x8057a79 in ?? () > #17 0x8057a45 in ?? () > #18 0x80496e8 in ?? () > #19 0x8057a79 in ?? () > #20 0x8057a45 in ?? () > #21 0x80496e8 in ?? () > #22 0x8057a79 in ?? () > #23 0x8057a45 in ?? () > #24 0x80496e8 in ?? () > #25 0x8049aa0 in ?? () > #26 0x804fd0f in ?? () > #27 0x80480e9 in ?? () > (kgdb) frame 5 > #5 0xf019b62f in ufs_lookup (ap=0xf7c46dcc) at ../../ufs/ufs/ufs_lookup.c:238 > 238 ep = (struct direct *)((char *)bp->b_data + entryoffseti > nblock); > (kgdb) l > 233 * Full validation checks are slow, so we only check > 234 * enough to insure forward progress through the > 235 * directory. Complete checks can be run by patching > 236 * "dirchk" to be true. > 237 */ > 238 ep = (struct direct *)((char *)bp->b_data + entryoffseti > nblock); > 239 if (ep->d_reclen == 0 || > 240 (dirchk && ufs_dirbadentry(vdp, ep, entryoffsetinblo > ck))) { > 241 int i; > 242 > (kgdb) printf "%p + %d\n", bp->b_data, entryoffset^Ht^Ginblock > 0xf3743000 + 21209 > (kgdb) printf "%d: %s\n", p->p_pid ^H ^H, p->p_comm > 68863: make > #relevant code: > bmask = VFSTOUFS(vdp->v_mount)->um_mountp->mnt_stat.f_iosize - 1; > if (nameiop != LOOKUP || dp->i_diroff == 0 || > dp->i_diroff > dp->i_size) { > entryoffsetinblock = 0; > dp->i_offset = 0; > numdirpasses = 1; > } else { > dp->i_offset = dp->i_diroff; > if ((entryoffsetinblock = dp->i_offset & bmask) && > (error = UFS_BLKATOFF(vdp, (off_t)dp->i_offset, NULL, &bp))) > return (error); > numdirpasses = 2; > nchstats.ncs_2passes++; > } > (kgdb) printf "i_offset %d & bmask %d = %d\n", dp->i_offset, bmask, (dp->i_offset & bmask) > i_offset 37593 & bmask 8191 = 4825 > (kgdb) quit > > Brian Feldman _ __ ___ ___ ___ > green@unixhelp.org _ __ ___ | _ ) __| \ > http://www.freebsd.org/ _ __ ___ ____ | _ \__ \ |) | > FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! _ __ ___ ____ _____ |___/___/___/ > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jan 15 21:12:38 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA03984 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 21:12:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from whistle.com (s205m131.whistle.com [207.76.205.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA03963; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 21:12:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from archie@whistle.com) Received: (from smap@localhost) by whistle.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id VAA08645; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 21:12:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from bubba.whistle.com( 207.76.205.7) by whistle.com via smap (V2.0) id xma008643; Fri, 15 Jan 99 21:12:08 -0800 Received: (from archie@localhost) by bubba.whistle.com (8.8.7/8.6.12) id VAA07999; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 21:12:08 -0800 (PST) From: Archie Cobbs Message-Id: <199901160512.VAA07999@bubba.whistle.com> Subject: Automated debug sanity checkers To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 21:12:07 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I was thinking about the DIAGNOSTICS replacement macros and had a random thought... Suppose you're sitting in front of a ddb (or better yet gdb) prompt because your kernel has just crashed due to who knows what reason. What do you do to debug this? You start looking at variables, memory, etc for anything funny going on. For example, several times we've spent hours going through a crash dump to find, for example, that a process was on two queues, or some mbuf was mangled, etc. The thought is that it would be really easy to help automate this process, by doing the following: 1. Define a new kernel option INCLUDE_SANITY_CHECKS (or whatever) 2. When this is defined, all the various FreeBSD kernel submodules (VM, networking, device drivers, etc) would include a function that exhaustively runs sanity checks -- ie, validations that all the assumptions in the code are true -- for that particular submodule. This means checking all queues, flags, whatever. 3. The function is required to only READ memory, not modify it. It can report any inconsistencies, though, obviously. 4. The function is linked into a linker set SANITY_SET(...) or whatever Then by simply calling this function from the debugger you can much more quickly narrow down on the problem (and hopefully fix it before you get tired and go to sleep :-) Moreover, since the function is running post-mortem, it can do very detailed checks that would otherwise take way too long. E.g., check every mbuf, every queue entry, check the filesystem, etc. Basically a "fsck" for the kernel memory. Is this something that people would be motivated enough to make as "official" FreeBSD kernel good housekeeping policy? -Archie ___________________________________________________________________________ Archie Cobbs * Whistle Communications, Inc. * http://www.whistle.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jan 15 21:15:02 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA04416 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 21:15:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from whistle.com (s205m131.whistle.com [207.76.205.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA04399 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 21:15:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from archie@whistle.com) Received: (from smap@localhost) by whistle.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id VAA08662; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 21:14:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from bubba.whistle.com( 207.76.205.7) by whistle.com via smap (V2.0) id xma008658; Fri, 15 Jan 99 21:13:43 -0800 Received: (from archie@localhost) by bubba.whistle.com (8.8.7/8.6.12) id VAA08006; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 21:13:43 -0800 (PST) From: Archie Cobbs Message-Id: <199901160513.VAA08006@bubba.whistle.com> Subject: Re: Can the bootloader create a file or set a flag in the bootblocks? In-Reply-To: <199901160449.UAA07916@bubba.whistle.com> from Archie Cobbs at "Jan 15, 99 08:49:18 pm" To: mrcpu@internetcds.com Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 21:13:42 -0800 (PST) Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Archie Cobbs writes: > Jaye Mathisen writes: > > It would be kind of cool if when managing a remote system if /kernel > > failed to boot, then on the next boot, the loader will fire up > > /kernel.old, or a /kernel.somethingorother. > > > > Sort of a kernel-clean flag. Then 300 miles away, I can try stuff, and > > have at least some assurance that I'll eventually be able to get back to a > > kernel I could use. > > In case in that discussion it wasn't clear, there *is* a way > to do this: see man nextboot. Oops, sorry.. nextboot of course doesn't work with the new bootblocks.. -Archie ___________________________________________________________________________ Archie Cobbs * Whistle Communications, Inc. * http://www.whistle.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jan 15 22:33:10 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA11983 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 22:33:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns1.yes.no (ns1.yes.no [195.204.136.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA11975; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 22:33:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eivind@bitbox.follo.net) Received: from bitbox.follo.net (bitbox.follo.net [195.204.143.218]) by ns1.yes.no (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA08781; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 07:33:04 +0100 (CET) Received: (from eivind@localhost) by bitbox.follo.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) id HAA11937; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 07:33:03 +0100 (MET) Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 07:33:03 +0100 From: Eivind Eklund To: Archie Cobbs Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Automated debug sanity checkers Message-ID: <19990116073302.B6405@bitbox.follo.net> References: <199901160512.VAA07999@bubba.whistle.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: <199901160512.VAA07999@bubba.whistle.com>; from Archie Cobbs on Fri, Jan 15, 1999 at 09:12:07PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Jan 15, 1999 at 09:12:07PM -0800, Archie Cobbs wrote: > I was thinking about the DIAGNOSTICS replacement macros and > had a random thought... > > Suppose you're sitting in front of a ddb (or better yet gdb) prompt > because your kernel has just crashed due to who knows what reason. > What do you do to debug this? You start looking at variables, > memory, etc for anything funny going on. > > For example, several times we've spent hours going through a crash > dump to find, for example, that a process was on two queues, or > some mbuf was mangled, etc. > > The thought is that it would be really easy to help automate this > process, by doing the following: > > 1. Define a new kernel option INCLUDE_SANITY_CHECKS (or whatever) INVARIANT_SUPPORT. Hey, I just happen to remember that somebody added this a couple of days ago - hmm, could it have been me? :-) > 2. When this is defined, all the various FreeBSD kernel > submodules (VM, networking, device drivers, etc) would > include a function that exhaustively runs sanity checks -- > ie, validations that all the assumptions in the code are true -- > for that particular submodule. This means checking all queues, > flags, whatever. Ie, invariants. > 4. The function is linked into a linker set SANITY_SET(...) or whatever I've not thought of that - that may be a good idea. > Then by simply calling this function from the debugger you can > much more quickly narrow down on the problem (and hopefully fix > it before you get tired and go to sleep :-) > > Moreover, since the function is running post-mortem, it can do > very detailed checks that would otherwise take way too long. > E.g., check every mbuf, every queue entry, check the filesystem, > etc. Basically a "fsck" for the kernel memory. You do not only want to call this at post-mortem. You often want to selectively use this while the kernel is running. Example: At one point (a year and half or so ago), I was debugging the tty driver in bisdn. For some reason, it was crashing in various ways at various times, with no sane reason - just garbage data. I spent quite a bit of time looking at this, finding no reason for the faults - they "just happened", taking on average perhaps 4 hours hours under load to trigger. As I was getting more and more frustrated with attempting to shotgun debug this, I went back to my normal mode of development - I wrote invariants for all data structures in the vicinity. When I added an invariant for the clist structures (and check of it all over the place), I found that my "crash" (now an invariant incorrect panic) time went down to two minutes - and that it was always the same way, with the same stack backtrace, instead of crashing at various random points. The reason for the bug turned out to be that both I and the implementor of the driver had missed the change of spls from levels in BSD4.4 to masks in FreeBSD. After I had seen the invariant failure, I could see that something was being interrupted between two spls - and after 3 minutes of reading the FreeBSD manpage and three lines of changes I had something that worked. That driver had been non-functional for at least three releases of bisdn (and the userland code to handle it was not even there, which I expect was due to this). I further expect that somebody had tried pretty hard to debug it, as they had spent the time to actually write it. The fact that I (which at that point had little experience with the FreeBSD kernel) was able able to debug that in a couple of hours where others had used more time and failed before me show some of the power of invariants for finding obscure bugs. I would like to have invariants available for all significant data structures, and I'm planning to write them up as I get time for it. > Is this something that people would be motivated enough to make > as "official" FreeBSD kernel good housekeeping policy? I suspect a large number of us will use it, making it likely it will sort of maintain itself. Eivind. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jan 15 23:33:40 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA15459 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:33:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA15453; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:33:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA98824; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:32:43 -0800 (PST) To: Brian Somers cc: Eivind Eklund , "Joseph T. Lee" , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Gratuitous name changes (was: libalias and ident) In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 14 Jan 1999 08:59:51 GMT." <199901140859.IAA44254@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org> Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:32:43 -0800 Message-ID: <98821.916471963@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > If libalias changes to libnat, I'd prefer to just change the ppp flag > to -nat, update the ppp version to 2.1 and update You would change it, and you'd only document -nat, but you'd still preserve -alias as a synonym for it (for at least a year or so) because otherwise: > But this isn't necessarily a good idea as it may attract a pile of > ``why the hell did you break my configuration for no good reason'' > messages. That will happen. :) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jan 16 02:20:17 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA27510 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 02:20:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from vader.cs.berkeley.edu (vader.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.38.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA27505 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 02:20:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asami@vader.cs.berkeley.edu) Received: from silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (sji-ca36-130.ix.netcom.com [207.92.172.130]) by vader.cs.berkeley.edu (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA09529 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 02:20:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (8.9.1/8.6.9) id CAA47520; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 02:20:06 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 02:20:06 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199901161020.CAA47520@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: mounting double-ended SCSI disks From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, In our project, we're trying to connect two PCs to both ends of a SCSI chain. I've got it somewhat working, but have a couple of questions re. mounting the filesystems. If I mount the filesystem from one machine (A) as read-write, then the other one (B) can't mount it read-write because the clean flag is not set. This is ok. Also, I can mount the disk read-only from both A and B. (I even read the entire contents of a 20GB partition from both machines at the same time -- worked without a hitch.) However, if I try to mount it from B read-only while A is mounting it read-write, it succeeds. This looks dangerous, as A writing data onto the disk could cause B's cache to go stale without B knowing it. Is it a good idea to allow read-only mounts of a dirty filesystem anyway? (The filesystem could be corrupted, right?) Another problem is if A is mounting it read-only and then B tries to mount it read-write. This succeeds and is dangerous for the same reason as the last example. Since A can't write anything to the disk, I guess there is no way we can avoid this situation. (The only way I could think of avoiding a crash due to stale cache data was to have A check the clean flag before every read, but that seems excessively expensive.) Satoshi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jan 16 02:29:41 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA28297 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 02:29:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.40.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA28292 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 02:29:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.9.1/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA09604; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 11:28:51 +0100 (CET) To: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mounting double-ended SCSI disks In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 16 Jan 1999 02:20:06 PST." <199901161020.CAA47520@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 11:28:50 +0100 Message-ID: <9602.916482530@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >However, if I try to mount it from B read-only while A is mounting it >read-write, it succeeds. This looks dangerous, as A writing data onto >the disk could cause B's cache to go stale without B knowing it. Is >it a good idea to allow read-only mounts of a dirty filesystem anyway? >(The filesystem could be corrupted, right?) UFS/FFS doesn't expect anybody else to muck about on the device while they have it open, and violating that is a bad idea, I cannot tell if it would lead to panics, but I can imagine a couple of ways it would become quantum mechanical in such a setup. A couple of filesystem have been designed over the years which allow for multiple machine access, but they tend to have lousy performance because of caching being so inefficient. One of the better implementations cheated, they stored the stuff in an Oracle database on a third machine, but used a filesystem interface... -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." FreeBSD -- It will take a long time before progress goes too far! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jan 16 02:43:12 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA29268 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 02:43:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ceia.nordier.com (slip139-92-122-99.joh.za.ibm.net [139.92.122.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA29263 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 02:43:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rnordier@nordier.com) Received: (from rnordier@localhost) by ceia.nordier.com (8.8.7/8.6.12) id MAA19796; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 12:42:03 +0200 (SAT) From: Robert Nordier Message-Id: <199901161042.MAA19796@ceia.nordier.com> Subject: Re: a few suggestions/comments on 3.0-RELEASE In-Reply-To: <199901151945.NAA01458@alecto.physics.uiuc.edu> from Igor Roshchin at "Jan 15, 99 01:45:29 pm" To: igor@physics.uiuc.edu (Igor Roshchin) Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 12:42:00 +0200 (SAT) Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Igor Roshchin wrote: > I've encountered this problems while installing 3.0-RELEASE > on a PII-350 with ASUS P2B-LS motherboard (i.e. there > is Adaptec U2W adapter and Intel EtherExpress 100/10 on board) > All HDDs are UW SCSI. > 2. I didn't find any documentation in the man pages which describes > the features of the new bootstrap - i.e. that it is capable of handling > slice number. > /boot.help doesn't have that reference either. > (I mean the possibility of specifying "2:da(1,2,a)kernel" > where the second "2" is for the slice number) > The only place I found where it was addressed was somebody's > answer in -questions archive, and on the -stable list. The documentation is slowly being updated to reflect the features of the new boot code. There's nothing about specifying slices yet; though the preferred way to accomplish most boot stuff in 3.x is by way of the all-singing, all-dancing /boot/loader program rather than boot2. > Also, it might be nice if the disklabel(8) man pages explicitely > say that the bootstrap code can be installed on each slice. > (am I wrong ?) You're right, the bootblocks can be installed on each slice, and this also needs documenting. -- Robert Nordier To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jan 16 02:46:45 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA29726 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 02:46:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from vader.cs.berkeley.edu (vader.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.38.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA29721 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 02:46:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asami@vader.cs.berkeley.edu) Received: from silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (sji-ca36-130.ix.netcom.com [207.92.172.130]) by vader.cs.berkeley.edu (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA09567; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 02:46:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (8.9.1/8.6.9) id CAA47630; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 02:46:30 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 02:46:30 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199901161046.CAA47630@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> To: phk@critter.freebsd.dk CC: current@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <9602.916482530@critter.freebsd.dk> (message from Poul-Henning Kamp on Sat, 16 Jan 1999 11:28:50 +0100) Subject: Re: mounting double-ended SCSI disks From: asami@FreeBSD.ORG (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * >However, if I try to mount it from B read-only while A is mounting it * >read-write, it succeeds. This looks dangerous, as A writing data onto * >the disk could cause B's cache to go stale without B knowing it. Is * >it a good idea to allow read-only mounts of a dirty filesystem anyway? * >(The filesystem could be corrupted, right?) * * UFS/FFS doesn't expect anybody else to muck about on the device * while they have it open, and violating that is a bad idea, I cannot I know that, but that's not the point here. If the filesystem is marked dirty, it could very well be corrupted. Why am I allowed to mount it (even read-only)? I use softupdates on these filesystems, and my understanding is that it is theoretically safe to mount a filesystem without fsck after a crash if it's using softupdates. But I don't see mount checking that (if it is, it should allow read-write mounts too -- mount -f is not quite the same thing is it will override the check even for non-softupdates case). * tell if it would lead to panics, but I can imagine a couple of ways * it would become quantum mechanical in such a setup. * A couple of filesystem have been designed over the years which allow * for multiple machine access, but they tend to have lousy performance * because of caching being so inefficient. One of the better * implementations cheated, they stored the stuff in an Oracle database * on a third machine, but used a filesystem interface... To clarify, we're not trying to build a distributed filesystem here. We're planning to use the disks from both machines read-only most of the time, and unmount it from one machine if the other needs to write to it. I was just wondering what kind of safety belts the OS already has, so we can decide what else we need to implement. Satoshi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jan 16 03:20:46 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA02256 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 03:20:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.gtn.com (mail.gtn.com [192.109.159.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA02249 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 03:20:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andreas@klemm.gtn.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by mail.gtn.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with UUCP id MAA04232; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 12:15:06 +0100 (MET) Received: (from andreas@localhost) by klemm.gtn.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) id LAA65818; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 11:17:22 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from andreas) Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 11:17:21 +0100 From: Andreas Klemm To: Mike Tancsa Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3.0.1 soon ? Message-ID: <19990116111721.A65282@titan.klemm.gtn.com> References: <3.0.5.32.19990115234502.03335380@granite.sentex.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990115234502.03335380@granite.sentex.ca>; from Mike Tancsa on Fri, Jan 15, 1999 at 11:45:02PM -0500 X-Disclaimer: A free society is one where it is safe to be unpopular X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT SMP Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Jan 15, 1999 at 11:45:02PM -0500, Mike Tancsa wrote: > > Just wondering if there is an updated timeline for 3.0.1 release ? 15.01. + 'five' more days (Jordan said on -committers) -- Andreas Klemm http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/~andreas What gives you 90% more speed, for example, in kernel compilation ? http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/~fsmp/SMP/akgraph-a/graph1.html "NT = Not Today" (Maggie Biggs) ``powered by FreeBSD SMP'' To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jan 16 03:24:02 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA02566 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 03:24:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.vr.IN-Berlin.DE (gnu.in-berlin.de [192.109.42.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA02552 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 03:23:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dva.in-berlin.de!balu@hirsch.in-berlin.de) Received: from hirsch.in-berlin.de (root@hirsch.in-berlin.de [192.109.42.6]) by mail.vr.IN-Berlin.DE (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA16314; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 12:23:50 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from dva.in-berlin.de!balu@hirsch.in-berlin.de) Received: by hirsch.in-berlin.de (Smail3.2) id ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 12:23:49 +0100 (CET) Received: (from balu@localhost) by dva.in-berlin.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA91357; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 11:39:12 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from balu) Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 11:39:12 +0100 From: Boris Staeblow To: Chuck Robey Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CTM <> CVSUP differences Message-ID: <19990116113912.A91051@dva.in-berlin.de> References: <19990115150718.A66695@dva.in-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: ; from Chuck Robey on Fri, Jan 15, 1999 at 08:46:23PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Jan 15, 1999 at 08:46:23PM -0500, Chuck Robey wrote: > Are you using any > other tool besides ctm to touch your cvs archive? Are you doing commits > locally? No. > In terms of convenience, cvsup is supreme, but in terms of stability, > Poul's baby here is the champ, so you have to really consider other > places of corruption first. Mh, it seems that I have to double-check my environment. :-( Until now i've mounted my partitions async. Maybe it gets hosed somewhere (altought I didn't get any error messages). Yesterday I switched to soft-updates. I'll see, if it will be get better now. Boris -- balu@dva.in-berlin.de Boris Staeblow To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jan 16 03:25:59 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA02835 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 03:25:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA02829 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 03:25:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id KAA01707; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 10:11:44 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199901160911.KAA01707@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: 3.0.1 soon ? To: andreas@klemm.gtn.com (Andreas Klemm) Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 10:11:44 +0100 (MET) Cc: mike@sentex.net, current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19990116111721.A65282@titan.klemm.gtn.com> from "Andreas Klemm" at Jan 16, 99 11:17:02 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Fri, Jan 15, 1999 at 11:45:02PM -0500, Mike Tancsa wrote: > > > > Just wondering if there is an updated timeline for 3.0.1 release ? > > 15.01. + 'five' more days (Jordan said on -committers) + 0.1.0 - 0.0.1 release numbers luigi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jan 16 04:43:50 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA10632 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 04:43:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.40.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA10626; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 04:43:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.9.1/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA10832; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 13:43:24 +0100 (CET) To: asami@FreeBSD.ORG (Satoshi Asami) cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mounting double-ended SCSI disks In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 16 Jan 1999 02:46:30 PST." <199901161046.CAA47630@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 13:43:24 +0100 Message-ID: <10830.916490604@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <199901161046.CAA47630@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu>, Satoshi Asami write s: > * >However, if I try to mount it from B read-only while A is mounting it > * >read-write, it succeeds. This looks dangerous, as A writing data onto > * >the disk could cause B's cache to go stale without B knowing it. Is > * >it a good idea to allow read-only mounts of a dirty filesystem anyway? > * >(The filesystem could be corrupted, right?) > * > * UFS/FFS doesn't expect anybody else to muck about on the device > * while they have it open, and violating that is a bad idea, I cannot > >I know that, but that's not the point here. If the filesystem is >marked dirty, it could very well be corrupted. Why am I allowed to >mount it (even read-only)? how else would you fsck / if it was dirty ? -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." FreeBSD -- It will take a long time before progress goes too far! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jan 16 05:47:40 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA15877 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 05:47:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from buffy.tpgi.com.au (buffy.tpgi.com.au [203.12.160.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA15871 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 05:47:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eirvine@tpgi.com.au) Received: (from smtpd@localhost) by buffy.tpgi.com.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA02102; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 00:50:12 +1100 Received: from tar-ppp-181.tpgi.com.au(203.26.26.181), claiming to be "tpgi.com.au" via SMTP by buffy.tpgi.com.au, id smtpda02069; Sun Jan 17 00:50:01 1999 Message-ID: <36A0986E.597221BF@tpgi.com.au> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 00:47:26 +1100 From: Eddie Irvine X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "oZZ!!!" CC: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Can't compile new kernel after CVSup... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG A number of things seem to be changing rapidly. 1) cvsup and Do a make buildworld/installworld. worked for me yesterday. 2) See if you can build the GENERIC kernel. Worked for me. 3) check the stuff in your custom kernel vs. the GENERIC. There has been some sizable changes. You'l have to do a bit of cutting and pasting. Eddie. oZZ!!! wrote: > > Hello! > After cvsuped my source tree, i try to compile > a new kernel, & c following: > # config -r > # cd ../../compile/ > # make depend > # make > ............ > cc -c -O -Wreturn-type -Wcomment -Wredundant-decls -Wimplicit -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wuninitialized -Wformat -Wunused -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -DKERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf ../../libkern/umoddi3.c > cc -c -O -Wreturn-type -Wcomment -Wredundant-decls -Wimplicit -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wuninitialized -Wformat -Wunused -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -DKERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf ../../pci/es1370.c > ./../pci/es1370.c:150: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type > ../../i386/isa/snd/ulaw.h:40: warning: `dsp_ulaw' defined but not used > cc -c -O -Wreturn-type -Wcomment -Wredundant-decls -Wimplicit -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wuninitialized -Wformat -Wunused -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -DKERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf ../../pci/ide_pci.c > ../../pci/ide_pci.c: In function `ide_pci_candma': > ../../pci/ide_pci.c:1462: structure has no member named `ctrlr' > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > > Something wrong? > > Rgdz, > ïÓÏËÉÎ óÅÒÇÅÊ aka oZZ, > osa@etrust.ru > P.S. 16.01.1999 - 4 days before 3.0-STABLE? > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jan 16 06:50:36 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA20220 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 06:50:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.gtn.com (mail.gtn.com [194.77.0.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA20214 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 06:50:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andreas@klemm.gtn.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by mail.gtn.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with UUCP id PAA07623 for current@FreeBSD.ORG; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 15:45:05 +0100 (MET) Received: (from andreas@localhost) by klemm.gtn.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) id PAA31996 for current@FreeBSD.ORG; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 15:37:25 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from andreas) Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 15:37:24 +0100 From: Andreas Klemm To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: trouble to link new kernel Message-ID: <19990116153724.A25481@titan.klemm.gtn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i X-Disclaimer: A free society is one where it is safe to be unpopular X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT SMP Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Did a make world and then rm -rf ../../compile/TITAN config TITAN cd ../../compile/TITAN make depend all See errors below ... Am I missing something ? loading kernel syscons.o: In function `scvidprobe': syscons.o(.text+0x231): undefined reference to `vid_configure' syscons.o(.text+0x24e): undefined reference to `vid_allocate' syscons.o(.text+0x26b): undefined reference to `vid_get_adapter' syscons.o: In function `sckbdprobe': syscons.o(.text+0x29a): undefined reference to `kbd_configure' syscons.o(.text+0x2be): undefined reference to `kbd_allocate' syscons.o(.text+0x2db): undefined reference to `kbd_get_keyboard' syscons.o: In function `scattach': syscons.o(.text+0x3a0): undefined reference to `kbdsw' syscons.o: In function `scopen': syscons.o(.text+0x5c2): undefined reference to `kbdsw' syscons.o: In function `sckbdevent': syscons.o(.text+0x822): undefined reference to `kbd_release' syscons.o(.text+0x8df): undefined reference to `kbdsw' syscons.o: In function `scioctl': syscons.o(.text+0x1d85): undefined reference to `kbdsw' syscons.o(.text+0x1df3): undefined reference to `kbdsw' syscons.o(.text+0x1e32): undefined reference to `kbdsw' syscons.o(.text+0x1f06): undefined reference to `kbdsw' syscons.o(.text+0x1f9e): undefined reference to `kbd_get_keyboard' syscons.o(.text+0x1fd9): undefined reference to `kbd_allocate' syscons.o(.text+0x2006): undefined reference to `kbd_release' syscons.o(.text+0x200f): undefined reference to `kbd_get_keyboard' syscons.o(.text+0x202c): undefined reference to `kbdsw' syscons.o(.text+0x209e): undefined reference to `kbd_release' syscons.o(.text+0x211e): undefined reference to `kbdsw' syscons.o: In function `sccngetch': syscons.o(.text+0x26c9): undefined reference to `kbdsw' syscons.o(.text+0x26fa): undefined reference to `kbdsw' syscons.o(.text+0x2748): undefined reference to `kbdsw' syscons.o(.text+0x276f): undefined reference to `kbdsw' syscons.o: In function `scrn_timer': syscons.o(.text+0x290d): undefined reference to `kbd_allocate' syscons.o(.text+0x291f): undefined reference to `kbd_get_keyboard' syscons.o(.text+0x2935): undefined reference to `kbdsw' syscons.o: In function `exchange_scr': syscons.o(.text+0x2eab): undefined reference to `vidsw' syscons.o(.text+0x2efc): undefined reference to `kbdsw' syscons.o: In function `scinit': syscons.o(.text+0x453e): undefined reference to `vid_get_adapter' syscons.o(.text+0x454b): undefined reference to `vidsw' syscons.o(.text+0x4567): undefined reference to `vidsw' syscons.o(.text+0x4725): undefined reference to `vidsw' syscons.o(.text+0x4744): undefined reference to `vidsw' syscons.o: In function `init_scp': syscons.o(.text+0x4a14): undefined reference to `vid_get_adapter' syscons.o(.text+0x4a20): undefined reference to `vidsw' syscons.o: In function `scgetc': syscons.o(.text+0x4dbe): undefined reference to `kbdsw' syscons.o(.text+0x53ac): undefined reference to `kbdsw' syscons.o: In function `scmmap': syscons.o(.text+0x55c7): undefined reference to `vidsw' syscons.o: In function `save_kbd_state': syscons.o(.text+0x5669): undefined reference to `kbdsw' syscons.o: In function `update_kbd_state': syscons.o(.text+0x56cd): undefined reference to `kbdsw' syscons.o(.text+0x5724): undefined reference to `kbdsw' syscons.o: In function `update_kbd_leds': syscons.o(.text+0x576e): undefined reference to `kbdsw' syscons.o: In function `set_mode': syscons.o(.text+0x57a9): undefined reference to `vidsw' syscons.o(.text+0x57e3): undefined reference to `vidsw' syscons.o(.text+0x586e): undefined reference to `vidsw' syscons.o(.text+0x58cb): undefined reference to `vidsw' syscons.o: In function `set_border': syscons.o(.text+0x58fb): undefined reference to `vidsw' syscons.o(.text+0x5a3c): more undefined references to `vidsw' follow psm.o: In function `enable_aux_dev': psm.o(.text+0xd): undefined reference to `send_aux_command' psm.o: In function `disable_aux_dev': psm.o(.text+0x4d): undefined reference to `send_aux_command' psm.o: In function `get_mouse_status': psm.o(.text+0xa9): undefined reference to `empty_aux_buffer' psm.o(.text+0xb0): undefined reference to `send_aux_command' psm.o(.text+0xfa): undefined reference to `read_aux_data' psm.o: In function `get_aux_id': psm.o(.text+0x154): undefined reference to `empty_aux_buffer' psm.o(.text+0x15f): undefined reference to `send_aux_command' psm.o(.text+0x19c): undefined reference to `read_aux_data' psm.o: In function `set_mouse_sampling_rate': psm.o(.text+0x1d6): undefined reference to `send_aux_command_and_data' psm.o: In function `set_mouse_scaling': psm.o(.text+0x232): undefined reference to `send_aux_command' psm.o: In function `set_mouse_resolution': psm.o(.text+0x28e): undefined reference to `send_aux_command_and_data' psm.o: In function `recover_from_error': psm.o(.text+0x393): undefined reference to `empty_both_buffers' psm.o(.text+0x399): undefined reference to `test_controller' psm.o(.text+0x3b5): undefined reference to `test_kbd_port' psm.o: In function `restore_controller': psm.o(.text+0x3eb): undefined reference to `empty_both_buffers' psm.o(.text+0x3f7): undefined reference to `set_controller_command_byte' psm.o: In function `doopen': psm.o(.text+0x49c): undefined reference to `kbdc_get_device_mask' psm.o(.text+0x4a8): undefined reference to `set_controller_command_byte' psm.o: In function `psmprobe': psm.o(.text+0x542): undefined reference to `kbdc_open' psm.o(.text+0x577): undefined reference to `kbdc_lock' psm.o(.text+0x5b2): undefined reference to `empty_both_buffers' psm.o(.text+0x5ba): undefined reference to `kbdc_get_device_mask' psm.o(.text+0x5c7): undefined reference to `get_controller_command_byte' psm.o(.text+0x610): undefined reference to `set_controller_command_byte' psm.o(.text+0x628): undefined reference to `write_controller_command' psm.o(.text+0x633): undefined reference to `test_aux_port' psm.o(.text+0x6be): undefined reference to `reset_aux_dev' psm.o(.text+0x939): undefined reference to `send_aux_command' psm.o(.text+0x9af): undefined reference to `empty_aux_buffer' psm.o(.text+0xa01): undefined reference to `set_controller_command_byte' psm.o(.text+0xa3d): undefined reference to `kbdc_set_device_mask' psm.o(.text+0xa47): undefined reference to `kbdc_lock' psm.o(.text+0xa70): undefined reference to `kbdc_set_device_mask' psm.o(.text+0xa7a): undefined reference to `kbdc_lock' psm.o: In function `psmopen': psm.o(.text+0xc16): undefined reference to `kbdc_lock' psm.o(.text+0xc38): undefined reference to `get_controller_command_byte' psm.o(.text+0xc4c): undefined reference to `kbdc_get_device_mask' psm.o(.text+0xc58): undefined reference to `set_controller_command_byte' psm.o(.text+0xc69): undefined reference to `kbdc_lock' psm.o(.text+0xcae): undefined reference to `kbdc_lock' psm.o: In function `psmclose': psm.o(.text+0xcdc): undefined reference to `kbdc_lock' psm.o(.text+0xcff): undefined reference to `get_controller_command_byte' psm.o(.text+0xd14): undefined reference to `kbdc_lock' psm.o(.text+0xd2e): undefined reference to `kbdc_get_device_mask' psm.o(.text+0xd3a): undefined reference to `set_controller_command_byte' psm.o(.text+0xd68): undefined reference to `empty_aux_buffer' psm.o(.text+0xdd7): undefined reference to `kbdc_get_device_mask' psm.o(.text+0xde3): undefined reference to `set_controller_command_byte' psm.o(.text+0xe0b): undefined reference to `empty_aux_buffer' psm.o(.text+0xe19): undefined reference to `kbdc_lock' psm.o: In function `block_mouse_data': psm.o(.text+0x114a): undefined reference to `kbdc_lock' psm.o(.text+0x1167): undefined reference to `get_controller_command_byte' psm.o(.text+0x117b): undefined reference to `kbdc_get_device_mask' psm.o(.text+0x1187): undefined reference to `set_controller_command_byte' psm.o(.text+0x119e): undefined reference to `kbdc_lock' psm.o(.text+0x11b2): undefined reference to `empty_aux_buffer' psm.o(.text+0x11ba): undefined reference to `read_aux_data_no_wait' psm.o: In function `unblock_mouse_data': psm.o(.text+0x11ec): undefined reference to `empty_aux_buffer' psm.o(.text+0x11f8): undefined reference to `kbdc_get_device_mask' psm.o(.text+0x1204): undefined reference to `set_controller_command_byte' psm.o(.text+0x121a): undefined reference to `kbdc_lock' psm.o: In function `psmintr': psm.o(.text+0x1730): undefined reference to `read_aux_data_no_wait' psm.o: In function `enable_kmouse': psm.o(.text+0x1cda): undefined reference to `empty_aux_buffer' *** Error code 1 Stop. -- Andreas Klemm http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/~andreas What gives you 90% more speed, for example, in kernel compilation ? http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/~fsmp/SMP/akgraph-a/graph1.html "NT = Not Today" (Maggie Biggs) ``powered by FreeBSD SMP'' To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jan 16 07:29:24 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA22705 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 07:29:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nina.pagesz.net (nina.pagesz.net [208.194.157.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA22700 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 07:29:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rhh@pagesz.net) Received: from stealth.dummynet. (isabella-59.pagesz.net [208.194.157.59]) by nina.pagesz.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA17857 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 10:29:33 -0500 Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.dummynet. (8.9.1/8.8.8) id KAA05825 for current@freebsd.org; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 10:29:35 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rhh) Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 10:29:35 -0500 From: Randall Hopper To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: SANE-1.0 Problems on CAM Message-ID: <19990116102934.A5731@pagesz.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I just pulled the latest SANE-1.0 package today for CAM/3.0-current (I'm on 3.0R). On my Microtek E6, it positions the head and gets ready to scan (sounding like normal) but as soon as it begins the movement to scan down the page, I get a dialog: Error during read: Error during device I/O. Seems like something in the SCSI subsystem or SANE isn't happy with getting the data back from the scanner. Anyone have an idea? Thanks, Randall FreeBSD-current/packages/All: -rw-r--r-- 1 569 207 1009577 Jan 13 01:47 sane-1.00.tgz To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jan 16 07:33:54 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA23178 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 07:33:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bright.fx.genx.net (bright.fx.genx.net [206.64.4.154]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA23173 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 07:33:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bright@hotjobs.com) Received: from localhost (bright@localhost) by bright.fx.genx.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA33280; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 10:39:14 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bright@hotjobs.com) X-Authentication-Warning: bright.fx.genx.net: bright owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 10:39:14 -0500 (EST) From: Alfred Perlstein X-Sender: bright@bright.fx.genx.net To: Randall Hopper cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SANE-1.0 Problems on CAM In-Reply-To: <19990116102934.A5731@pagesz.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 16 Jan 1999, Randall Hopper wrote: > I just pulled the latest SANE-1.0 package today for CAM/3.0-current > (I'm on 3.0R). On my Microtek E6, it positions the head and gets ready to > scan (sounding like normal) but as soon as it begins the movement to scan > down the page, I get a dialog: > > Error during read: Error during device I/O. > > Seems like something in the SCSI subsystem or SANE isn't happy with getting > the data back from the scanner. > > Anyone have an idea? Search hackers and current for information, someone posted patches to SANE that oughta help you out. Alfred Perlstein - Programmer, HotJobs Inc. - www.hotjobs.com -- There are operating systems, and then there's FreeBSD. -- http://www.freebsd.org/ 3.0-current > > Thanks, > > Randall > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jan 16 07:45:44 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA24195 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 07:45:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.196.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA24190 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 07:45:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (IDENT:FXDKkdnFt1OiBuXZ/b8LNXJzbRDTVUPj@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA22530; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 00:45:17 +0900 (JST) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.7.6+2.6Wbeta7/3.4W/zodiac-May96) with ESMTP id AAA17229; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 00:47:48 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199901161547.AAA17229@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> To: Andreas Klemm cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp Subject: Re: trouble to link new kernel In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 16 Jan 1999 15:37:24 +0100." <19990116153724.A25481@titan.klemm.gtn.com> References: <19990116153724.A25481@titan.klemm.gtn.com> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 00:47:48 +0900 From: Kazutaka YOKOTA Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >Did a make world and then >rm -rf ../../compile/TITAN >config TITAN >cd ../../compile/TITAN >make depend all > >See errors below ... > >Am I missing something ? See http://www.freebsd.org/~yokota/sc_update.txt and update your kernel config file. Kazu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jan 16 07:59:22 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA24895 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 07:59:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.HiWAAY.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA24888 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 07:59:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net) Received: from nospam.hiwaay.net (tnt3-92.HiWAAY.net [208.147.146.92]) by mail.HiWAAY.net (8.9.1a/8.9.0) with ESMTP id JAA18683; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 09:59:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from nospam.hiwaay.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nospam.hiwaay.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA86112; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 09:59:15 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net) Message-Id: <199901161559.JAA86112@nospam.hiwaay.net> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Boris Staeblow , current@FreeBSD.ORG From: David Kelly Subject: Re: CTM <> CVSUP differences Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 09:59:15 -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 15 Jan 1999, Boris Staeblow wrote: > Hello, > > Is it possible that there are slight differences between the > CTM's and the "real world" ? Yes, there are differences. You can't get the optional security stuff via CTM while you can with CVSUP. Last time I tried it, this means you can't do a "make release" as Jordan's release Makefiles can't handle a total absense of that stuff (eBones? whatever its called). While you can download the missing security stuff, "make release" wants to check it out of your local cvs archive. I haven't found a way to put it there but I'm a cvs novice. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jan 16 08:10:38 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA25727 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 08:10:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles206.castles.com [208.214.165.206]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA25719 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 08:10:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA04642; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 20:52:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199901160452.UAA04642@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Archie Cobbs cc: mrcpu@internetcds.com (Jaye Mathisen), current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Can the bootloader create a file or set a flag in the bootblocks? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 15 Jan 1999 20:49:18 PST." <199901160449.UAA07916@bubba.whistle.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 20:52:16 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Jaye Mathisen writes: > > It would be kind of cool if when managing a remote system if /kernel > > failed to boot, then on the next boot, the loader will fire up > > /kernel.old, or a /kernel.somethingorother. > > > > Sort of a kernel-clean flag. Then 300 miles away, I can try stuff, and > > have at least some assurance that I'll eventually be able to get back to a > > kernel I could use. > > In case in that discussion it wasn't clear, there *is* a way > to do this: see man nextboot. Nextboot is woefully inadequate (and not supported anymore anyway). -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jan 16 08:23:30 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA26760 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 08:23:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dns.webwizard.net.mx (webwizard.net.mx [148.245.50.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA26755 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 08:23:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eculp@webwizard.org.mx) Received: from webwizard.org.mx (webwizard.net.mx [148.245.50.27]) by dns.webwizard.net.mx (8.9.2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA62563 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 10:23:24 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from eculp@webwizard.org.mx) Message-ID: <36A0BCFB.D00B56FE@webwizard.org.mx> Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 10:23:23 -0600 From: Edwin Culp X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Today's Make World Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I haven't been able to make world since the texinfo problem. I don't see anyone else on the list with problems. Did I miss another change? Am I doing something wrong? Thanks, ed P.S. This is where I stopped this time. cvsup finished about 9:25 CST. DynaLoader.c:282: `NULL' undeclared (first use this function) DynaLoader.c:282: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type DynaLoader.c:282: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type DynaLoader.c:282: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type DynaLoader.c:282: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jan 16 08:51:12 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA29124 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 08:51:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.rdc1.nj.home.com (ha1.rdc1.nj.home.com [24.3.128.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA29118 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 08:51:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from damascus@eden.rutgers.edu) Received: from athena ([24.3.219.36]) by mail.rdc1.nj.home.com (InterMail v4.00.03 201-229-104) with SMTP id <19990116165105.ROVD7214.mail.rdc1.nj.home.com@athena>; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 08:51:05 -0800 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990116115356.00ad58c0@email.eden.rutgers.edu> X-Sender: damascus@email.eden.rutgers.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 11:53:56 -0500 To: Edwin Culp , "freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG" From: Carroll Kong Subject: Re: Today's Make World In-Reply-To: <36A0BCFB.D00B56FE@webwizard.org.mx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 10:23 AM 1/16/99 -0600, Edwin Culp wrote: >I haven't been able to make world since the texinfo problem. I don't >see anyone else on the list with problems. Did I miss another change? >Am I doing something wrong? > >Thanks, > >ed > >P.S. This is where I stopped this time. cvsup finished about 9:25 CST. > >DynaLoader.c:282: `NULL' undeclared (first use this function) >DynaLoader.c:282: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type >DynaLoader.c:282: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type >DynaLoader.c:282: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type >DynaLoader.c:282: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type >*** Error code 1 > >Stop. >*** Error code 1 > I have been getting that error all day yesterday. Remade world 2-3 times... after cvsupping... none of the changes fixed it, and I still 'perished' at the same spot you did. I figured... I might as well wait a few more days before the next cvsup so they can fix whatever they are working on. -Carroll Kong To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jan 16 08:52:36 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA29245 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 08:52:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.26.10.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA29238 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 08:52:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bde@godzilla.zeta.org.au) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) id DAA24642; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 03:52:29 +1100 Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 03:52:29 +1100 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199901161652.DAA24642@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: igor@physics.uiuc.edu, rnordier@nordier.com Subject: Re: a few suggestions/comments on 3.0-RELEASE Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >> Also, it might be nice if the disklabel(8) man pages explicitely >> say that the bootstrap code can be installed on each slice. >> (am I wrong ?) > >You're right, the bootblocks can be installed on each slice, and >this also needs documenting. This doesn't need documenting. disklabel(8) knows nothing of slices. It installs labels and bootblocks on disk-like devices. Slices are just one type of disk-like device. All regular files larger than 1K and many devices are disk-like, thanks to device independence. For the bootstrap code to actual work, more is required. E.g., slices on vn "disks" are not bootable because the boot loader doesn't support vn "disks". disklabel(8) knows nothing of this limitation. Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jan 16 08:55:15 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA29405 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 08:55:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dns.webwizard.net.mx (webwizard.net.mx [148.245.50.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA29399 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 08:55:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eculp@webwizard.org.mx) Received: from webwizard.org.mx (webwizard.net.mx [148.245.50.27]) by dns.webwizard.net.mx (8.9.2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA62855; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 10:55:08 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from eculp@webwizard.org.mx) Message-ID: <36A0C46B.552C5D8@webwizard.org.mx> Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 10:55:07 -0600 From: Edwin Culp X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Carroll Kong CC: "freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Today's Make World References: <3.0.5.32.19990116115356.00ad58c0@email.eden.rutgers.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Carroll Kong wrote: > > I have been getting that error all day yesterday. Remade world 2-3 > times... after cvsupping... none of the changes fixed it, and I still > 'perished' at the same spot you did. I figured... I might as well wait a > few more days before the next cvsup so they can fix whatever they are > working on. > > -Carroll Kong Thanks, "misery loves company". Have a great day ed To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jan 16 09:12:41 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA00525 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 09:12:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.26.10.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA00518; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 09:12:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bde@godzilla.zeta.org.au) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) id EAA25555; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 04:12:34 +1100 Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 04:12:34 +1100 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199901161712.EAA25555@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: asami@FreeBSD.ORG, phk@critter.freebsd.dk Subject: Re: mounting double-ended SCSI disks Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>I know that, but that's not the point here. If the filesystem is >>marked dirty, it could very well be corrupted. Why am I allowed to >>mount it (even read-only)? Because you are root, and root never makes mistakes :-). >how else would you fsck / if it was dirty ? Boot from an alternative device to clean up. Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jan 16 09:12:58 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA00807 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 09:12:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA00796 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 09:12:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN) id CAA12508; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 02:12:53 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <36A0C882.1C7F2AAD@newsguy.com> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 02:12:34 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Suspend on Current Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is it just me, or is there anyone else experiencing system freezes on current after a zzz? -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com If you sell your soul to the Devil and all you get is an MCSE from it, you haven't gotten market rate. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jan 16 09:44:09 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA03911 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 09:44:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from matrix.42.org (matrix.42.org [194.246.250.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA03906 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 09:44:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sec@42.org) Received: (from sec@localhost) by matrix.42.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id SAA07867 (sender ); Sat, 16 Jan 1999 18:43:55 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 18:43:55 +0100 From: Stefan `Sec` Zehl To: Andrzej Bialecki Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: /boot/loader problem with unusual setup. Message-ID: <19990116184355.B7661@matrix.42.org> X-Current-Backlog: 264 messages References: <19990113161942.A9800@matrix.42.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: ; from Andrzej Bialecki on Wed, Jan 13, 1999 at 10:00:48PM +0100 I-love-doing-this: really Accept-Languages: de, en X-URL: http://sec.42.org/ Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Jan 13, 1999 at 10:00:48PM +0100, Andrzej Bialecki wrote: > Where ${rootdev} points to? Shouldn't you set it accordingly to disk3s1a:? rootdev isn't set at all (as show says). I can't imagine that this will make a change, as I am booting from disk3, the problem stems from FreeBSD not realizing that this is wd0, i think. In fact, I tried it out, and it didn't help :-( CU, Sec (happy that the new bootblock also supports elf kernels) -- Aufgrund eines Bugs in unserem Newsserver ist es nicht moeglich, diesen offensichlich versehentlich geposteten Artikel zu canceln. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jan 16 10:07:42 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA06011 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 10:07:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from soleil.uvsq.fr (soleil.uvsq.fr [193.51.24.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA06005 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 10:07:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from son@prism.uvsq.fr) Received: from prism.uvsq.fr (rtc104.reseau.uvsq.fr [193.51.24.20]) by soleil.uvsq.fr (8.9.1a/jtpda-5.3.2) with ESMTP id TAA25889 ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 19:07:32 +0100 (CET) Received: (from son@localhost) by prism.uvsq.fr (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA00748; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 19:50:27 GMT (envelope-from son) Message-ID: <19990116195026.31931@breizh.prism.uvsq.fr> Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 19:50:26 +0000 From: Nicolas Souchu To: Doug Rabson Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ZIP+ detection, need testers for the patch References: <19990115001347.00530@breizh.prism.uvsq.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.81e In-Reply-To: ; from Doug Rabson on Fri, Jan 15, 1999 at 11:13:09AM +0000 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD breizh 3.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Jan 15, 1999 at 11:13:09AM +0000, Doug Rabson wrote: > >On Fri, 15 Jan 1999, Nicolas Souchu wrote: > >> Hi there, >> >> Currently, the ZIP+ probe is intrusive and sends char to the printer if >> no ZIP+ is connected. >> >> Here is a patch that corrects the problem for my printer, but I haven't >> any ZIP+ :) >> >> So, please check the ZIP+ is still detected. > >With this patch, I can *not* detect my ZIP+ (attached to a machine which >detects it using the existing code). Ok :( Does the last ppbus committed code (with IEEE1284 support) detects your ZIP+ at boot? Something like "IEEE1284 device found /NIBBLE..." with its id 2 lines after? This may be another way to detect properly the ZIP+ Nicholas. > >-- >Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com >Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 > > > -- nsouch@teaser.fr / nsouch@freebsd.org FreeBSD - Turning PCs into workstations - http://www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jan 16 10:09:33 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA06335 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 10:09:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from korin.warman.org.pl (korin.nask.waw.pl [195.187.243.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA06330 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 10:09:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from abial@nask.pl) Received: from localhost (abial@localhost) by korin.warman.org.pl (8.9.1/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA10804; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 19:15:27 +0100 (CET) X-Authentication-Warning: korin.warman.org.pl: abial owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 19:15:27 +0100 (CET) From: Andrzej Bialecki X-Sender: abial@korin.warman.org.pl To: Stefan `Sec` Zehl cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: /boot/loader problem with unusual setup. In-Reply-To: <19990116184355.B7661@matrix.42.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 16 Jan 1999, Stefan `Sec` Zehl wrote: > On Wed, Jan 13, 1999 at 10:00:48PM +0100, Andrzej Bialecki wrote: > > Where ${rootdev} points to? Shouldn't you set it accordingly to disk3s1a:? > > rootdev isn't set at all (as show says). > > I can't imagine that this will make a change, as I am booting from > disk3, the problem stems from FreeBSD not realizing that this is wd0, i ^^^^^^ I missed that part. What happens when you set rootdev to disk1s1a:? Andrzej Bialecki -------------------- ++-------++ ------------------------------------- ||PicoBSD|| FreeBSD in your pocket? Go and see: Research & Academic |+-------+| "Small & Embedded FreeBSD" Network in Poland | |TT~~~| | http://www.freebsd.org/~picobsd/ -------------------- ~-+==---+-+ ------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jan 16 10:49:43 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA09371 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 10:49:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA09364 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 10:49:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from localhost (dfr@localhost) by nlsystems.com (8.9.1/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA34753; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 18:49:25 GMT Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 18:49:25 +0000 (GMT) From: Doug Rabson To: Nicolas Souchu cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ZIP+ detection, need testers for the patch In-Reply-To: <19990116195026.31931@breizh.prism.uvsq.fr> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 16 Jan 1999, Nicolas Souchu wrote: > On Fri, Jan 15, 1999 at 11:13:09AM +0000, Doug Rabson wrote: > > > >On Fri, 15 Jan 1999, Nicolas Souchu wrote: > > > >> Hi there, > >> > >> Currently, the ZIP+ probe is intrusive and sends char to the printer if > >> no ZIP+ is connected. > >> > >> Here is a patch that corrects the problem for my printer, but I haven't > >> any ZIP+ :) > >> > >> So, please check the ZIP+ is still detected. > > > >With this patch, I can *not* detect my ZIP+ (attached to a machine which > >detects it using the existing code). > > Ok :( > > Does the last ppbus committed code (with IEEE1284 support) detects your > ZIP+ at boot? Something like "IEEE1284 device found /NIBBLE..." with > its id 2 lines after? This may be another way to detect properly the ZIP+ Afraid not :-(. The ppb_1284_negociate fails with an error of PPB_NOT_IEEE1284. I haven't tried using the PERIPH_1284 option which seems to affect the negotiation - is it worth trying? P.S. The correct spelling is 'negotiate'. I keep wanting to do a global-replace :-) -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jan 16 11:28:30 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA12905 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 11:28:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail1.svr.pol.co.uk (mail1.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA12900 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 11:28:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from A.M.Zanker@open.ac.uk) Received: from modem-14.euthyrox.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.66.14] helo=jemima) by mail1.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 101bOT-0007yt-00 for current@freebsd.org; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 19:28:25 +0000 Message-Id: <4.1.19990116192533.009e8820@aire.open.ac.uk> X-Sender: mikez@aire.open.ac.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 19:28:21 +0000 To: current@FreeBSD.ORG From: Mike Zanker Subject: trivial rc/rc.local observation Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Just noticed that both rc and rc.local print "starting local daemons" and the terminating ".". Would it not be more aesthetically pleasing if only rc.local did so? Mike -- Mike Zanker, Academic Computing Service, The Open University, UK Tel: +44 1908 652726, Fax: +44 1908 652193 Views expressed are personal and do not necessarily reflect University opinion. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jan 16 11:30:46 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA13462 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 11:30:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jli.com (jli.com [199.2.111.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA13454 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 11:30:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from trost@cloud.rain.com) Received: (qmail 24962 invoked by uid 4); 16 Jan 1999 19:30:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 30113 invoked from network); 16 Jan 1999 19:21:42 -0000 Received: from localhost.cloud.rain.com (HELO grey.cloud.rain.com) (127.0.0.1) by localhost.cloud.rain.com with SMTP; 16 Jan 1999 19:21:42 -0000 To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Can the bootloader create a file or set a flag in the bootblocks? References: <199901151746.JAA01235@dingo.cdrom.com> In-reply-to: Your message of Fri, 15 Jan 1999 09:46:44 PST. <199901151746.JAA01235@dingo.cdrom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <30109.916514501.1@grey.cloud.rain.com> Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 11:21:42 -0800 Message-ID: <30110.916514502@grey.cloud.rain.com> From: Bill Trost Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike Smith writes: > It would be kind of cool if when managing a remote system if > /kernel failed to boot, then on the next boot, the loader will > fire up /kernel.old, or a /kernel.somethingorother. We're trying to work out a clean way of managing that sort of persistent state that doesn't involve nasty hacks like the 'nextboot' code did. It's kinda tricky if you don't want "write" implemented in all your filesystems (bloat!) Maybe I don't understand the problem here, but something akin to how kernel configuration changes are handled seems like a good way to deal with this problem. /boot/loader could stuff something into memory (sort of like the way you can stuff a splash screen into memory), and a user-level program can read that information and stuff it wherever it needs to be stuffed. That may be a little hard with tftp, but with most of the other media types it seems like it should be relatively straightforward. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jan 16 11:47:28 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA15023 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 11:47:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.26.10.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA15018 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 11:47:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bde@godzilla.zeta.org.au) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA06651; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 00:56:59 +1100 Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 00:56:59 +1100 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199901111356.AAA06651@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: fn@Radio-do.de, fullermd@futuresouth.com, julian@whistle.com Subject: Re: SOFTUPDATES Cc: culverk@wam.umd.edu, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >Does softupdates give any gain over async? >I have /usr/src and /usr/obj both mounted async, noatime, and it does >seem to be rather nicely fast over default mountops. Async isn't fully async in FreeBSD (some directory operations are still sync), so softupdates is much faster in some cases. Fully async async seems to be a little faster than softupdates. Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jan 16 11:59:36 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA16287 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 11:59:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from janus.syracuse.net (janus.syracuse.net [205.232.47.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA16282 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 11:59:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from green@unixhelp.org) Received: from localhost (green@localhost) by janus.syracuse.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA11145; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 14:58:58 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 14:58:58 -0500 (EST) From: Brian Feldman X-Sender: green@janus.syracuse.net To: "Daniel C. Sobral" cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Suspend on Current In-Reply-To: <36A0C882.1C7F2AAD@newsguy.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 17 Jan 1999, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: > Is it just me, or is there anyone else experiencing system freezes > on current after a zzz? I tried it on an Intel chipset a while back, and got the same result. Of course, I disabled APM from then on :) > > -- > Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) > dcs@newsguy.com > > If you sell your soul to the Devil and all you get is an MCSE from > it, you haven't gotten market rate. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > Brian Feldman _ __ ___ ___ ___ green@unixhelp.org _ __ ___ | _ ) __| \ http://www.freebsd.org/ _ __ ___ ____ | _ \__ \ |) | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! _ __ ___ ____ _____ |___/___/___/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jan 16 12:03:21 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA16607 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 12:03:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ceia.nordier.com ([139.92.122.172]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA16597 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 12:03:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rnordier@nordier.com) Received: (from rnordier@localhost) by ceia.nordier.com (8.8.7/8.6.12) id WAA22167; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 22:01:56 +0200 (SAT) From: Robert Nordier Message-Id: <199901162001.WAA22167@ceia.nordier.com> Subject: Re: a few suggestions/comments on 3.0-RELEASE In-Reply-To: <199901161652.DAA24642@godzilla.zeta.org.au> from Bruce Evans at "Jan 17, 99 03:52:29 am" To: bde@zeta.org.au (Bruce Evans) Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 22:01:54 +0200 (SAT) Cc: igor@physics.uiuc.edu, rnordier@nordier.com, current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Bruce Evans wrote: > >> Also, it might be nice if the disklabel(8) man pages explicitely > >> say that the bootstrap code can be installed on each slice. > >> (am I wrong ?) > > > >You're right, the bootblocks can be installed on each slice, and > >this also needs documenting. > > This doesn't need documenting. disklabel(8) knows nothing of slices. > It installs labels and bootblocks on disk-like devices. Slices are > just one type of disk-like device. All regular files larger than 1K > and many devices are disk-like, thanks to device independence. I think one does well to avoid "No! No! No!" reponses to useful feedback. The original suggestion highlights aspects of the new bootblocks that are incompletely documented and potentially confusing. My reply was intentionally phrased to acknowledge this while omitting all reference to the disklabel man page. This does need documenting. disklabel(8) is merely an installation tool for bootstrap stages 1 & 2, as is install(1) for bootstrap stage 3. Of course one does not document programs on the man pages of their installation tools. However this does not mean that one does not document them (or their installation procedures) at all. -- Robert Nordier To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jan 16 12:52:51 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA20717 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 12:52:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bouvreuil.cybercable.fr (bouvreuil.cybercable.fr [212.198.3.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA20712 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 12:52:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from herbelot@cybercable.fr) Received: (qmail 20753 invoked from network); 16 Jan 1999 20:52:45 -0000 Received: from d003.paris-21.cybercable.fr (HELO cybercable.fr) (212.198.21.3) by bouvreuil.cybercable.fr with SMTP; 16 Jan 1999 20:52:45 -0000 Message-ID: <36A0FC11.8B22D0F5@cybercable.fr> Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 21:52:33 +0100 From: Thierry Herbelot X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: correction for find(1)'s man page Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello I was reading the man page for find(1), looking for the precise option to follow symbolic links. This option is -follow, of course, but it is not described in the man page (I do not find in the cgi query : http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=find&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=FreeBSD+3.0-current&format=html ) What if someone reread the man page ? TfH To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jan 16 13:12:05 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA23208 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 13:12:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from germanium.xtalwind.net (germanium.xtalwind.net [205.160.242.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA23203 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 13:12:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jack@germanium.xtalwind.net) Received: from localhost (jack@localhost) by germanium.xtalwind.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id QAA50672; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 16:11:54 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 16:11:54 -0500 (EST) From: jack To: Mike Zanker cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: trivial rc/rc.local observation In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990116192533.009e8820@aire.open.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 16 Jan 1999, Mike Zanker wrote: > Just noticed that both rc and rc.local print "starting local daemons" and > the terminating ".". Would it not be more aesthetically pleasing if only > rc.local did so? rc.local was removed from the tree on Dec. 12th. If you're still using it you're on your own, edit it as you wish. :) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jack O'Neill Systems Administrator / Systems Analyst jack@germanium.xtalwind.net Crystal Wind Communications, Inc. Finger jack@germanium.xtalwind.net for my PGP key. PGP Key fingerprint = F6 C4 E6 D4 2F 15 A7 67 FD 09 E9 3C 5F CC EB CD enriched, vcard, HTML messages > /dev/null -------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jan 16 13:21:43 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA23798 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 13:21:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA23787 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 13:21:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dgobe@mcs.net) Received: from mcs.net (dgobe.pr.mcs.net [204.137.234.195]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.8.7/8.8.2) with ESMTP id PAA19407; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 15:21:35 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <36A1024A.5C080C56@mcs.net> Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 15:19:06 -0600 From: "David A. Gobeille" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Edwin Culp CC: "freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Today's Make World References: <36A0BCFB.D00B56FE@webwizard.org.mx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Edwin Culp wrote: > > I haven't been able to make world since the texinfo problem. I don't > see anyone else on the list with problems. Did I miss another change? > Am I doing something wrong? > > Thanks, > > ed > > P.S. This is where I stopped this time. cvsup finished about 9:25 CST. > > DynaLoader.c:282: `NULL' undeclared (first use this function) > DynaLoader.c:282: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type > DynaLoader.c:282: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type > DynaLoader.c:282: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type > DynaLoader.c:282: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > *** Error code 1 > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message Try setting KERNFORMAT and OBJFORMAT in the environment before building. In my case they were set to elf. I was able to successfully buildworld this morning after setting those. I noticed that there used to be an elf and an aout directory in /usr/obj. Now there doesn't seem to be, maybe that is causing the problem? -- Dave To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jan 16 13:35:34 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA25285 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 13:35:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pa.scotland.net (pa1.scotland.net [194.247.64.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA25279 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 13:35:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@timog.prestel.co.uk) Received: from [148.176.232.119] (helo=timog.prestel.co.uk) by pa.scotland.net with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #4) for current@freebsd.org id 101dNM-0000Ab-00; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 21:35:25 +0000 Received: (qmail 91847 invoked by uid 1002); 16 Jan 1999 21:16:57 -0000 Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 21:16:57 +0000 From: Timo Geusch To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: 'make buildworld' seems to create wrong symlinks for 'obj' Message-ID: <19990116211657.A91828@timog.prestel.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG After recvsupping -current from the uk Mirror this morning, 'make buildworld' completed without any problem, but a subsequent 'make installworld' failed when trying to install shared libraries (in this case, libdescrypt.so.2). Further investigation showed that building the aout part of world seems to clobber the symlinks to the 'obj' directories from the source tree, i.e. instead of linking obj into the default 'elf' part of the tree (usr/obj/usr...) the link was pointing into the aout part of the object tree and therefore all elf libraries could not be installed. After completely nuking everything in /usr/obj the problem persisted, but remaking the world with -DNOAOUT did the trick. Could somebody with more experience regarding 'make world' please look into this? Cheers, Timo To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jan 16 13:35:48 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA25518 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 13:35:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from feral-gw.feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA25445 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 13:35:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from localhost (mjacob@localhost) by feral-gw.feral.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA08258; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 13:35:17 -0800 Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 13:35:17 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob X-Sender: mjacob@feral-gw Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: "David A. Gobeille" cc: Edwin Culp , "freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Today's Make World In-Reply-To: <36A1024A.5C080C56@mcs.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Huh? Isn't a 'make world' or 'make buildworld' supposed to just do the right thing? I mean, I *have* converted to elf... On Sat, 16 Jan 1999, David A. Gobeille wrote: > Edwin Culp wrote: > > > > I haven't been able to make world since the texinfo problem. I don't > > see anyone else on the list with problems. Did I miss another change? > > Am I doing something wrong? > > > > Thanks, > > > > ed > > > > P.S. This is where I stopped this time. cvsup finished about 9:25 CST. > > > > DynaLoader.c:282: `NULL' undeclared (first use this function) > > DynaLoader.c:282: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type > > DynaLoader.c:282: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type > > DynaLoader.c:282: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type > > DynaLoader.c:282: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > > Try setting KERNFORMAT and OBJFORMAT in the environment before > building. In my case they were set to elf. > > I was able to successfully buildworld this morning after setting > those. > > I noticed that there used to be an elf and an aout directory in > /usr/obj. Now there doesn't seem to be, maybe that is causing > the problem? > > -- > > Dave > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jan 16 14:23:07 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA29397 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 14:23:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA29392 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 14:23:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA04825; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 14:22:11 -0800 (PST) To: Carroll Kong cc: Edwin Culp , "freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Today's Make World In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 16 Jan 1999 11:53:56 EST." <3.0.5.32.19990116115356.00ad58c0@email.eden.rutgers.edu> Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 14:22:10 -0800 Message-ID: <4822.916525330@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG We're all seeing this error, not to worry. Happily, it's clearly Mark's baby since he both imported the new texinfo *and* does the perl5 stuff. :-) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jan 16 14:57:10 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA03087 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 14:57:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from arg1.demon.co.uk (arg1.demon.co.uk [194.222.34.166]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA03082 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 14:57:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from arg@arg1.demon.co.uk) Received: from localhost (arg@localhost) by arg1.demon.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA08336; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 22:55:21 GMT (envelope-from arg@arg1.demon.co.uk) Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 22:55:15 +0000 (GMT) From: Andrew Gordon X-Sender: arg@server.arg.sj.co.uk To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: Carroll Kong , Edwin Culp , "freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Today's Make World In-Reply-To: <4822.916525330@zippy.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 16 Jan 1999, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > We're all seeing this error, not to worry. Happily, it's clearly > Mark's baby since he both imported the new texinfo *and* does the > perl5 stuff. :-) Backing out /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/config.SH* to 14jan allowed "make world" to complete for me. (revision 1.7 in the case of config.SH-elf.i386). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jan 16 15:13:38 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA04787 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 15:13:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from reliam.teaser.fr (reliam.teaser.fr [194.51.80.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA04780 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 15:13:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from son@teaser.fr) Received: from teaser.fr (ppp1087-ft.teaser.fr [194.206.156.40]) by reliam.teaser.fr (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id AAA07211; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 00:13:14 +0100 (MET) Received: (from son@localhost) by teaser.fr (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA03931; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 00:09:02 GMT (envelope-from son) Message-ID: <19990117000808.62752@breizh.prism.uvsq.fr> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 00:08:08 +0000 From: Nicolas Souchu To: Doug Rabson Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ZIP+ detection, need testers for the patch References: <19990116195026.31931@breizh.prism.uvsq.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.81e In-Reply-To: ; from Doug Rabson on Sat, Jan 16, 1999 at 06:49:25PM +0000 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD breizh 3.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Jan 16, 1999 at 06:49:25PM +0000, Doug Rabson wrote: > >On Sat, 16 Jan 1999, Nicolas Souchu wrote: > >> On Fri, Jan 15, 1999 at 11:13:09AM +0000, Doug Rabson wrote: >> > >> >On Fri, 15 Jan 1999, Nicolas Souchu wrote: >> > >> >> Hi there, >> >> >> >> Currently, the ZIP+ probe is intrusive and sends char to the printer if >> >> no ZIP+ is connected. >> >> >> >> Here is a patch that corrects the problem for my printer, but I haven't >> >> any ZIP+ :) >> >> >> >> So, please check the ZIP+ is still detected. >> > >> >With this patch, I can *not* detect my ZIP+ (attached to a machine which >> >detects it using the existing code). >> >> Ok :( >> >> Does the last ppbus committed code (with IEEE1284 support) detects your >> ZIP+ at boot? Something like "IEEE1284 device found /NIBBLE..." with >> its id 2 lines after? This may be another way to detect properly the ZIP+ > >Afraid not :-(. The ppb_1284_negociate fails with an error of >PPB_NOT_IEEE1284. I haven't tried using the PERIPH_1284 option which >seems to affect the negotiation - is it worth trying? No. PERIPH_1284 should allow a computer to act as a IEEE1284 compliant peripheral when connected to another computer. > >P.S. The correct spelling is 'negotiate'. I keep wanting to do a >global-replace :-) Now, everybody on -current knows it :) I'm burned, as we say here. > >-- >Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com >Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 > > > -- nsouch@teaser.fr / nsouch@freebsd.org FreeBSD - Turning PCs into workstations - http://www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jan 16 15:42:50 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA07509 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 15:42:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from www.giovannelli.it (www.giovannelli.it [194.184.65.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA07490; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 15:42:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gmarco@giovannelli.it) Received: from suzy (modem30.masternet.it [194.184.65.40]) by www.giovannelli.it (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA07001; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 00:42:29 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <4.1.19990117003737.009d4a80@194.184.65.4> X-Sender: gmarco@194.184.65.4 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 00:49:57 +0100 To: current@FreeBSD.ORG From: Gianmarco Giovannelli Subject: Problem booting from aic7890/91 Ultra2 SCSI Cc: scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ok, first the conclusion... I am not able to boot anymore from a 3.0-current system while I can boot quite nicely from the 3.0-RELEASE generic kernel. The system hangs on checking the scsi chain and remains stopped here. The last thing I can see on the screen is the : Waiting 3 seconds for SCSI devices to settle And nothing else happens anymore. So I have to hard reset the box. here is a dmesg from the 3.0-RELEASE generic kernel. ### dmesg of 3.0-RELEASE generic kernel ### Copyright (c) 1992-1998 FreeBSD Inc. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 3.0-RELEASE #0: Sat Oct 17 17:45:06 GMT 1998 jkh@kickme.freebsd.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz cost 3038 ns CPU: Pentium II (quarter-micron) (400.91-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x651 Stepping=1 Features=0x183f9ff> real memory = 134217728 (131072K bytes) avail memory = 127537152 (124548K bytes) Preloaded a.out kernel "kernel.GENERIC" at 0x0xf02ed000. Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: chip0: rev 0x02 on pci0.0.0 chip1: rev 0x02 on pci0.1.0 chip2: rev 0x02 on pci0.4.0 ide_pci0: rev 0x01 on pci0.4.1 chip3: rev 0x01 int d irq 255 on pci0.4.2 chip4: rev 0x02 on pci0.4.3 ahc0: rev 0x00 int a irq 14 on pci0.6.0 ahc0: aic7890/91 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs de0: rev 0x11 int a irq 14 on pci0.9.0 de0: 21041 [10Mb/s] pass 1.1 de0: address 00:40:05:36:7a:72 Probing for devices on PCI bus 1: vga0: rev 0x01 int a irq 11 on pci1.0.0 Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> ed0 not found at 0x280 fe0 not found at 0x300 sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16550A lpt0 at 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa lpt0: Interrupt-driven port lp0: TCP/IP capable interface psm0 at 0x60-0x64 irq 12 on motherboard psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in wdc0 not found at 0x1f0 wdc1 not found at 0x170 wt0 not found at 0x300 mcd0 not found at 0x300 matcdc0 not found at 0x230 scd0 not found at 0x230 ie0: unknown board_id: f000 ie0 not found at 0x300 ep0 not found at 0x300 ex0 not found le0 not found at 0x300 lnc0 not found at 0x280 ze0 not found at 0x300 zp0 not found at 0x300 cs0 not found at 0x300 adv0 not found at 0x330 bt0 not found at 0x134 aha0 not found at 0x134 npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface de0: enabling 10baseT port Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle sa0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 6 lun 0 sa0: Removable Sequential Access SCSI2 device sa0: 3.300MB/s transfers da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI2 device da0: 40.0MB/s transfers (20.0MHz, offset 31, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 8682MB (17781520 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1106C) changing root device to da0s1a da1 at ahc0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 da1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI2 device da1: 20.0MB/s transfers (10.0MHz, offset 15, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da1: 2069MB (4238640 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 263C) da2 at ahc0 bus 0 target 2 lun 0 da2: Removable Direct Access SCSI2 device da2: 3.300MB/s transfers da2: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present ### End dmesg ### My kernel is : ### Begin kernel ### machine "i386" cpu "I686_CPU" ident GMARCO maxusers 32 options INET #InterNETworking options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options NFS #Network Filesystem options PROCFS #Process filesystem options FFS_ROOT options "COMPAT_43" #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] options SCSI_DELAY=3000 #Be pessimistic about Joe SCSI device options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console options USERCONFIG #boot -c editor options VISUAL_USERCONFIG #visual boot -c editor options SYSVSHM options SYSVSEM options SYSVMSG config kernel root on da0 controller isa0 controller pci0 controller fdc0 at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio irq 6 drq 2 vector fdintr disk fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 controller ahc0 controller scbus0 device da0 device sa0 device cd0 controller atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD tty device atkbd0 at isa? tty irq 1 device psm0 at isa? tty irq 12 device vga0 at isa? port ? conflicts device sc0 at isa? tty pseudo-device splash device npx0 at isa? port "IO_NPX" irq 13 vector npxintr device sio0 at isa? port "IO_COM1" tty irq 4 vector siointr device sio1 at isa? port "IO_COM2" tty irq 3 vector siointr device lpt0 at isa? port? tty irq 7 vector lptintr device de0 device apm0 at isa? flags 0x31 # Advanced Power Management controller pnp0 #Luigi's drivers device pcm0 at isa? port 0x220 tty irq ? drq ? flags 0x15 vector pcmintr controller smbus0 controller iicbus0 controller iicbb0 device bktr0 pseudo-device loop pseudo-device ether pseudo-device sl 1 pseudo-device tun 1 pseudo-device pty 16 pseudo-device gzip ### End kernel ### I have also a cdrom installed on id #5 , but it is not listed in the GENERIC kernel's dmesg, because with -CURRENT it logs some error about timeout, so I decided to put out of the chain. But the hans problem is still here also without cdrom. The mainboard is an asus P2B-S with scsi onboard (bios 2.01). I use the bios default fro the controller... Please answer... Best Regards, Gianmarco Giovannelli (http://www.giovannelli.it/~gmarco) "Unix expert since yesterday" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jan 16 18:14:17 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA20593 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 18:14:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rebma.ghostwheel.com (rebma.ghostwheel.com [207.201.56.159]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA20561; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 18:14:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from merlin@ghostwheel.com) Received: from avalon (avalon.ghostwheel.com [207.201.56.88]) by rebma.ghostwheel.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA09552; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 18:14:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from merlin@ghostwheel.com) Message-Id: <4.1.19990116180852.00a9aea0@pop.ghostwheel.com> X-Sender: merlin@rebma.ghostwheel.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 18:10:28 -0800 To: Gianmarco Giovannelli From: Christopher Knight Subject: Re: Problem booting from aic7890/91 Ultra2 SCSI Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, scsi@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990117003737.009d4a80@194.184.65.4> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 12:49 AM 1/17/99 +0100, Gianmarco Giovannelli wrote: > >Ok, first the conclusion... > >I am not able to boot anymore from a 3.0-current system while I can boot >quite nicely from the 3.0-RELEASE generic kernel. > >The system hangs on checking the scsi chain and remains stopped here. The >last thing I can see on the screen is the : >Waiting 3 seconds for SCSI devices to settle > >And nothing else happens anymore. So I have to hard reset the box. I have been seeing this for the two weeks or so. A shutdown -r will always hang. A complete powerdown has been the only way I can reboot my box of late. -ck To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jan 16 18:43:11 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA22528 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 18:43:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mailgate.fore.com (mailgate.fore.com [169.144.68.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA22509; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 18:43:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rv@fore.com) Received: from mailman.fore.com (mailman.fore.com [169.144.2.12]) by mailgate.fore.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA07142; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 21:42:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from sol.eng.fore.com (sol [169.144.155.73]) by mailman.fore.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA00414; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 21:43:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from agastya.eng.fore.com (agastya [169.144.1.196]) by sol.eng.fore.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA12767; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 21:42:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (rv@localhost) by agastya.eng.fore.com (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id VAA21270; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 21:42:57 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199901170242.VAA21270@agastya.eng.fore.com> X-Authentication-Warning: agastya.eng.fore.com: rv owned process doing -bs X-Authentication-Warning: agastya.eng.fore.com: rv@localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: kernel build breaks after the latest cvsup Reply-to: rv@fore.com X-Mailer: MH v6.8.3 X-LoopDetect: rv@eng.fore.com Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 21:42:57 -0500 From: Rajesh Vaidheeswarran Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello folks, I just did a cvsup and tried rebuilding world and the kernel, but I keep getting an error during the kernel linking stage. loading kernel syscons.o: In function `scvidprobe': syscons.o(.text+0x231): undefined reference to `vid_configure' syscons.o(.text+0x24e): undefined reference to `vid_allocate' syscons.o(.text+0x26b): undefined reference to `vid_get_adapter' ... and many more... psm.o: In function `enable_aux_dev': psm.o(.text+0xd): undefined reference to `send_aux_command' psm.o: In function `disable_aux_dev': psm.o(.text+0x4d): undefined reference to `send_aux_command' ... and psm.o having many such undefined references too. I have not done any changes to my kernel config since the last make update. Any ideas? Any help is appreciated. Thanks! rv To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jan 16 18:54:32 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA23303 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 18:54:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zeus.theinternet.com.au (zeus.theinternet.com.au [203.34.176.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA23286; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 18:54:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from akm@zeus.theinternet.com.au) Received: (from akm@localhost) by zeus.theinternet.com.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA01382; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 12:56:51 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from akm) From: Andrew Kenneth Milton Message-Id: <199901170256.MAA01382@zeus.theinternet.com.au> Subject: Re: Problem booting from aic7890/91 Ultra2 SCSI In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990116180852.00a9aea0@pop.ghostwheel.com> from Christopher Knight at "Jan 16, 99 06:10:28 pm" To: merlin@ghostwheel.com (Christopher Knight) Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 12:56:51 +1000 (EST) Cc: gmarco@giovannelli.it, current@FreeBSD.ORG, scsi@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG +----[ Christopher Knight ]--------------------------------------------- | At 12:49 AM 1/17/99 +0100, Gianmarco Giovannelli wrote: | > | >Ok, first the conclusion... | > | >I am not able to boot anymore from a 3.0-current system while I can boot | >quite nicely from the 3.0-RELEASE generic kernel. | > | >The system hangs on checking the scsi chain and remains stopped here. The | >last thing I can see on the screen is the : | >Waiting 3 seconds for SCSI devices to settle | > | >And nothing else happens anymore. So I have to hard reset the box. | | | I have been seeing this for the two weeks or so. A shutdown -r will always | hang. A complete powerdown has been the only way I can reboot my box of late. I recently (last night) added USB support to my kernel (just to see :-) and it hung at the same place. Removing the USB entries fixed it. This was also at the same time as the syscons/atkbd changeover for me as well so I wasn't expecting it really to be the USB driver (since I have no USB devices). If you have USB support compiled in try removing it. -- Totally Holistic Enterprises Internet| P:+61 7 3870 0066 | Andrew The Internet (Aust) Pty Ltd | F:+61 7 3870 4477 | Milton ACN: 082 081 472 | M:+61 416 022 411 |72 Col .Sig PO Box 837 Indooroopilly QLD 4068 |akm@theinternet.com.au|Specialist To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jan 16 19:08:35 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA24470 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 19:08:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ozz.etrust.ru (ozz.etrust.ru [195.2.84.116]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA24463; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 19:08:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from osa@etrust.ru) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ozz.etrust.ru (8.9.2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAA01356; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 06:05:22 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from osa@etrust.ru) Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 06:05:22 +0300 (MSK) From: oZZ!!! To: Rajesh Vaidheeswarran cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: kernel build breaks after the latest cvsup In-Reply-To: <199901170242.VAA21270@agastya.eng.fore.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 16 Jan 1999, Rajesh Vaidheeswarran wrote: > Hello folks, > > I just did a cvsup and tried rebuilding world and the kernel, > but I keep getting an error during the kernel linking stage. > > loading kernel > syscons.o: In function `scvidprobe': > syscons.o(.text+0x231): undefined reference to `vid_configure' > syscons.o(.text+0x24e): undefined reference to `vid_allocate' > syscons.o(.text+0x26b): undefined reference to `vid_get_adapter' > ... and many more... > > psm.o: In function `enable_aux_dev': > psm.o(.text+0xd): undefined reference to `send_aux_command' > psm.o: In function `disable_aux_dev': > psm.o(.text+0x4d): undefined reference to `send_aux_command' > ... > and psm.o having many such undefined references too. > > I have not done any changes to my kernel config since the last > make update. > > Any ideas? Any help is appreciated. > > Thanks! You may c /usr/src/UPDATING & /sys/i386/conf/LINT kernel sources is changed. I think you must read following for compile new kernel: http://www.freebsd.org/~yokota/sc_update.txt > > rv Rgdz, Sergey A. Osokin aka oZZ, osa@etrust.ru To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jan 16 19:11:11 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA24900 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 19:11:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from frmug.org (frmug-gw.frmug.org [193.56.58.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA24895 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 19:11:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from roberto@keltia.freenix.fr) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by frmug.org (8.9.1/frmug-2.3/nospam) with UUCP id EAA01585 for current@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 04:10:51 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from roberto@keltia.freenix.fr) Received: by keltia.freenix.fr (Postfix, from userid 101) id 3A0341573; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 01:17:31 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 01:17:31 +0100 From: Ollivier Robert To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CTM <> CVSUP differences Message-ID: <19990117011731.A71119@keltia.freenix.fr> Mail-Followup-To: current@FreeBSD.ORG References: <199901161559.JAA86112@nospam.hiwaay.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: <199901161559.JAA86112@nospam.hiwaay.net>; from David Kelly on Sat, Jan 16, 1999 at 09:59:15AM -0600 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT/ELF ctm#4931 AMD-K6 MMX @ 200 MHz Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG According to David Kelly: > via CTM while you can with CVSUP. Last time I tried it, this means you > can't do a "make release" as Jordan's release Makefiles can't handle a > total absense of that stuff (eBones? whatever its called). It is available on internat.freebsd.org with CTM... -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! -=- roberto@keltia.freenix.fr FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 3.0-CURRENT #67: Tue Dec 29 20:24:02 CET 1998 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jan 16 19:27:33 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA25964 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 19:27:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rebma.ghostwheel.com (rebma.ghostwheel.com [207.201.56.159]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA25958 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 19:27:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from merlin@ghostwheel.com) Received: from avalon (avalon.ghostwheel.com [207.201.56.88]) by rebma.ghostwheel.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA09673 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 19:27:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from merlin@ghostwheel.com) Message-Id: <4.1.19990116192308.00aa3760@pop.ghostwheel.com> X-Sender: merlin@rebma.ghostwheel.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 19:24:02 -0800 To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG From: Christopher Knight Subject: Re: Problem booting from aic7890/91 Ultra2 SCSI In-Reply-To: <199901170256.MAA01382@zeus.theinternet.com.au> References: <4.1.19990116180852.00a9aea0@pop.ghostwheel.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 12:56 PM 1/17/99 +1000, you wrote: >I recently (last night) added USB support to my kernel (just to see :-) >and it hung at the same place. Removing the USB entries fixed it. > >This was also at the same time as the syscons/atkbd changeover for me as well >so I wasn't expecting it really to be the USB driver (since I have no >USB devices). > >If you have USB support compiled in try removing it. I do not have USB support compiled in, nor did I when I first started noticing this problem. -ck To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jan 16 20:11:40 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA28999 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 20:11:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from opus.cts.cwu.edu (opus.cts.cwu.edu [198.104.92.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA28994 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 20:11:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from skynyrd@opus.cts.cwu.edu) Received: from localhost (skynyrd@localhost) by opus.cts.cwu.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id UAA15949; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 20:11:35 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 20:11:34 -0800 (PST) From: Chris Timmons To: Rajesh Vaidheeswarran cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: kernel build breaks after the latest cvsup In-Reply-To: <199901170242.VAA21270@agastya.eng.fore.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG You probably need to add kbd0 and update sc0 in your kernel config file. Have a look in the GENERIC kernel config to see how it is done now... On Sat, 16 Jan 1999, Rajesh Vaidheeswarran wrote: > Hello folks, > > I just did a cvsup and tried rebuilding world and the kernel, > but I keep getting an error during the kernel linking stage. > > loading kernel > syscons.o: In function `scvidprobe': > syscons.o(.text+0x231): undefined reference to `vid_configure' > syscons.o(.text+0x24e): undefined reference to `vid_allocate' > syscons.o(.text+0x26b): undefined reference to `vid_get_adapter' > ... and many more... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jan 16 20:37:34 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA01312 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 20:37:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mailgate.fore.com (mailgate.fore.com [169.144.68.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA01307; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 20:37:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rv@fore.com) Received: from mailman.fore.com (mailman.fore.com [169.144.2.12]) by mailgate.fore.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA08380; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 23:37:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from sol.eng.fore.com (sol [169.144.155.73]) by mailman.fore.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA03375; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 23:37:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from agastya.eng.fore.com (tejas [169.144.86.36]) by sol.eng.fore.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA14689; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 23:37:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (rv@localhost) by agastya.eng.fore.com (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA26152; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 23:37:27 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199901170437.XAA26152@agastya.eng.fore.com> X-Authentication-Warning: agastya.eng.fore.com: rv owned process doing -bs X-Authentication-Warning: agastya.eng.fore.com: rv@localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: Chris Timmons cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: kernel build breaks after the latest cvsup In-reply-to: Message from Chris Timmons of "Sat, 16 Jan 1999 20:11:34 PST." Reply-to: rv@fore.com X-Mailer: MH v6.8.3 X-LoopDetect: rv@fore.com Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 23:37:26 -0500 From: Rajesh Vaidheeswarran Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks Chris, and thank you all who have replied to my message. I did as per your suggestions, and my kernel compiles now. (I haven't yet tried a reboot though). Thanks, once again. rv -- using MH template repl.format -- In a previous message, Chris Timmons writes: > > You probably need to add kbd0 and update sc0 in your kernel config file. > Have a look in the GENERIC kernel config to see how it is done now... > > On Sat, 16 Jan 1999, Rajesh Vaidheeswarran wrote: > > > Hello folks, > > > > I just did a cvsup and tried rebuilding world and the kernel, > > but I keep getting an error during the kernel linking stage. > > > > loading kernel > > syscons.o: In function `scvidprobe': > > syscons.o(.text+0x231): undefined reference to `vid_configure' > > syscons.o(.text+0x24e): undefined reference to `vid_allocate' > > syscons.o(.text+0x26b): undefined reference to `vid_get_adapter' > > ... and many more... > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jan 16 20:54:57 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA02831 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 20:54:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.HiWAAY.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA02805 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 20:54:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net) Received: from nospam.hiwaay.net (tnt2-141.HiWAAY.net [208.147.148.141]) by mail.HiWAAY.net (8.9.1a/8.9.0) with ESMTP id WAA12589; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 22:54:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from nospam.hiwaay.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nospam.hiwaay.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA00548; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 21:44:04 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net) Message-Id: <199901170344.VAA00548@nospam.hiwaay.net> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Ollivier Robert cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG From: David Kelly Subject: Re: CTM <> CVSUP differences In-reply-to: Message from Ollivier Robert of "Sun, 17 Jan 1999 01:17:31 +0100." <19990117011731.A71119@keltia.freenix.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 21:44:04 -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ollivier Robert writes: > According to David Kelly: > > via CTM while you can with CVSUP. Last time I tried it, this means you > > can't do a "make release" as Jordan's release Makefiles can't handle a > > total absense of that stuff (eBones? whatever its called). > > It is available on internat.freebsd.org with CTM... And its legal for me to "import" it to the US? Thought something like that had to be available but it didn't come up last time I mentioned it. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jan 16 22:04:32 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA08031 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 22:04:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.26.10.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA08025 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 22:04:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bde@godzilla.zeta.org.au) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA02965 for current@freebsd.org; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 17:04:24 +1100 Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 17:04:24 +1100 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199901170604.RAA02965@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/i386/isa wd.c wdreg.h src/sys/pci ide_pci.c Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Watch out for bugs awoken by this. >bde 1999/01/16 21:46:25 PST > > Modified files: > sys/i386/isa wd.c wdreg.h > sys/pci ide_pci.c > Log: > Pass the unit number to the DMA cookie lookup routine and use it > to look up cookies properly, at least for standard controllers. > Cookies are used so that we don't have to pass around lots of args. > All of the dmainit functions use the unit number so it is essential > that we pass them a cookie with the correct unit number. > > This may break working configurations if there are bugs in the > dmainit functions like the ones I just fixed for VIA chipsets. > > Broken in: rev 1.4 of ide_pci.c and rev.1.139 of wd.c. > > Revision Changes Path > 1.186 +5 -3 src/sys/i386/isa/wd.c > 1.25 +2 -2 src/sys/i386/isa/wdreg.h > 1.28 +6 -5 src/sys/pci/ide_pci.c Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jan 16 22:53:31 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA10961 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 22:53:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from apollo.backplane.com (apollo.backplane.com [209.157.86.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA10956 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 22:53:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA47033; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 22:53:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 22:53:23 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <199901170653.WAA47033@apollo.backplane.com> To: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mounting double-ended SCSI disks Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :Another problem is if A is mounting it read-only and then B tries to :mount it read-write. This succeeds and is dangerous for the same :reason as the last example. Since A can't write anything to the disk, :I guess there is no way we can avoid this situation. (The only way I :could think of avoiding a crash due to stale cache data was to have A :check the clean flag before every read, but that seems excessively :expensive.) : :Satoshi You have to be able to mount an unclean filesystem read-only -- otherwise the system would not be able to mount root and then fsck it from /etc/rc, nor would you be able to mount a corrupted partition in order to attempt to recover some of it. The clean flag was never designed to handle multi-headed configurations and should not be used for such. The filesystems - even read-only mounts, are also not designed to handle multi-headed configurations. You need a separate mechanism ( like a tcp connection or perhaps you can even use the SCSI reservation stuff manually ) to control access to the filesystems. -Matt Matthew Dillon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jan 16 23:16:42 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA12226 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 23:16:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA12221 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 23:16:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: (from jkh@localhost) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) id XAA00345 for current@freebsd.org; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 23:16:57 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 23:16:57 -0800 (PST) From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Message-Id: <199901170716.XAA00345@zippy.cdrom.com> To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Annoying messages on startup.. Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG jkh@zippy-> dmesg|grep Freeing Freeing (NOT implemented) redirected ISA irq 11. Freeing (NOT implemented) redirected ISA irq 10. Freeing (NOT implemented) redirected ISA irq 10. Freeing (NOT implemented) redirected ISA irq 10. Freeing (NOT implemented) redirected ISA irq 9. Freeing (NOT implemented) redirected ISA irq 10. Can these just go away? They certainly don't tell *me* anything useful and if it's a feature which should be implemented then we ought to implement it. If it's just a harmless warning, then we ought to just remove it. :-) Thanks... It would be nice to have this one dealt with before we branch in 4 days.. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jan 16 23:24:10 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA12792 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 23:24:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gratis.grondar.za (gratis.grondar.za [196.7.18.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA12787 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 23:24:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from greenpeace.grondar.za (greenpeace.grondar.za [196.7.18.132]) by gratis.grondar.za (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA09672; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 09:23:58 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grondar.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by greenpeace.grondar.za (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA15894; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 09:23:51 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Message-Id: <199901170723.JAA15894@greenpeace.grondar.za> To: Robert Watson cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: world compile break, -current (extremely recent), krbIV support In-Reply-To: Your message of " Wed, 13 Jan 1999 21:00:17 EST." References: Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 09:23:48 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Robert Watson wrote: > > This seems only to affect the krbIV stuff in -world. > > cd /usr/src/kerberosIV/lib/libacl;/usr/obj/elf/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin/make befor einstall > make: don't know how to make /usr/src/kerberosIV/lib/libacl/../../../crypto/k erberosIV/lib/acl/acl.h. > Stop > *** Error code 2 Huh!?!? Do you have kerberos sources in src/crypto/kerberosIV ?? M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jan 16 23:32:22 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA13581 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 23:32:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gratis.grondar.za (gratis.grondar.za [196.7.18.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA13575 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 23:32:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from greenpeace.grondar.za (greenpeace.grondar.za [196.7.18.132]) by gratis.grondar.za (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA09690; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 09:32:12 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grondar.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by greenpeace.grondar.za (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA16030; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 09:32:11 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Message-Id: <199901170732.JAA16030@greenpeace.grondar.za> To: David Kelly cc: Ollivier Robert , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CTM <> CVSUP differences In-Reply-To: Your message of " Sat, 16 Jan 1999 21:44:04 CST." <199901170344.VAA00548@nospam.hiwaay.net> References: <199901170344.VAA00548@nospam.hiwaay.net> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 09:32:11 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG David Kelly wrote: > > It is available on internat.freebsd.org with CTM... > > And its legal for me to "import" it to the US? No problem. It is illegal to export _from_ the US. M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jan 16 23:42:22 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA14445 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 23:42:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gratis.grondar.za (gratis.grondar.za [196.7.18.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA14440 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 23:42:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from greenpeace.grondar.za (greenpeace.grondar.za [196.7.18.132]) by gratis.grondar.za (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA09686; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 09:31:19 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grondar.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by greenpeace.grondar.za (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA16012; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 09:31:18 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Message-Id: <199901170731.JAA16012@greenpeace.grondar.za> To: David Kelly cc: Boris Staeblow , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CTM <> CVSUP differences In-Reply-To: Your message of " Sat, 16 Jan 1999 09:59:15 CST." <199901161559.JAA86112@nospam.hiwaay.net> References: <199901161559.JAA86112@nospam.hiwaay.net> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 09:31:17 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG David Kelly wrote: > While you can download the missing security stuff, "make release" wants > to check it out of your local cvs archive. I haven't found a way to put > it there but I'm a cvs novice. There is an "international" repository of crypto sources. Lemme know if you want it. M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jan 16 23:47:56 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA14810 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 23:47:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gratis.grondar.za (gratis.grondar.za [196.7.18.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA14805 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 23:47:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from greenpeace.grondar.za (greenpeace.grondar.za [196.7.18.132]) by gratis.grondar.za (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA09720; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 09:47:43 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grondar.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by greenpeace.grondar.za (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA16312; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 09:47:41 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Message-Id: <199901170747.JAA16312@greenpeace.grondar.za> To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: Carroll Kong , Edwin Culp , "freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Today's Make World In-Reply-To: Your message of " Sat, 16 Jan 1999 14:22:10 PST." <4822.916525330@zippy.cdrom.com> References: <4822.916525330@zippy.cdrom.com> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 09:47:40 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote: > We're all seeing this error, not to worry. Happily, it's clearly > Mark's baby since he both imported the new texinfo *and* does the > perl5 stuff. :-) ... and he is not getting the errors! I have done N make worlds in the last 48 hours; clean as a whistle. (I do blow away /usr/obj/* each time, and I'm pretty anal about cleaning garbage out of the source tree before building; garbage includes editor backup files, .#* files from CVS, .o .so files from builds without obj/ and so forth. I want the tree to be _really_ clean before I try). M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jan 16 23:49:14 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA15095 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 23:49:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA15090 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 23:49:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA00644; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 23:49:03 -0800 (PST) To: Mark Murray cc: Carroll Kong , Edwin Culp , "freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Today's Make World In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 17 Jan 1999 09:47:40 +0200." <199901170747.JAA16312@greenpeace.grondar.za> Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 23:49:03 -0800 Message-ID: <641.916559343@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Every -current release I try and build falls over with this one. Tried making a release lately? :) - Jordan > "Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote: > > We're all seeing this error, not to worry. Happily, it's clearly > > Mark's baby since he both imported the new texinfo *and* does the > > perl5 stuff. :-) > > ... and he is not getting the errors! > > I have done N make worlds in the last 48 hours; clean as a whistle. > (I do blow away /usr/obj/* each time, and I'm pretty anal about cleaning > garbage out of the source tree before building; garbage includes editor > backup files, .#* files from CVS, .o .so files from builds without obj/ > and so forth. I want the tree to be _really_ clean before I try). > > M > -- > Mark Murray > Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message