From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jan 3 03:06:36 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA10296 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 03:06:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (baerenklau.de.freebsd.org [195.185.195.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA10283 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 03:06:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id MAA09553 for doc@freebsd.org; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 12:06:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from wosch@localhost) by campa.panke.de.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA28974 for doc@freebsd.org; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 11:50:57 +0100 (MET) (envelope-from wosch) Message-ID: <19990103115056.A28964@panke.de.freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 11:50:56 +0100 From: Wolfram Schneider To: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: How long are entries kept at /news/webchanges.html Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org When should we remove old entries at http://www.freebsd.org/news/webchanges.html? After [ ] 1 month [ ] 2 months [ ] 3 months [ ] 6 months -- Wolfram Schneider http://freebsd.org/~w/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jan 3 07:48:33 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA05376 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 07:48:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from www.au2.net (michae12.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.41.238]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA05370 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 07:48:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@au2.net) Received: from mic (michael.au2.net [203.41.105.133]) by www.au2.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA08555 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 02:50:53 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from mike@au2.net) Message-ID: <000701be3730$5ece7860$856929cb@mic.au2.net> From: "Michael" To: Subject: help routeing subnet Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 02:47:28 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01BE378C.918F7680" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BE378C.918F7680 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear sir: Is have some info for subnet IP routeing? ( like the host as = 203.41.105.1 want host a C-class subnet as 203.41.150.1 ) and to routeing the subnet domain ?=20 can you give me some info ? Thanks! Michael Zhang mike@aunet.net.au ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BE378C.918F7680 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Dear sir:

Is have some info for subnet IP = routeing? ( like=20 the host as 203.41.105.1 want host a C-class subnet as 203.41.150.1=20 )

and to routeing the subnet domain ?=20

can you give me some info = ?

Thanks!

Michael Zhang

mike@aunet.net.au

------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BE378C.918F7680-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jan 3 08:00:09 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA06482 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 08:00:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA06474 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 08:00:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id IAA26943; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 08:00:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from Terry.Dorm10.NCTU.edu.tw (Terry.Dorm10.NCTU.edu.tw [140.113.122.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA05756 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 07:54:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ijliao@Terry.Dorm10.NCTU.edu.tw) Received: (from ijliao@localhost) by Terry.Dorm10.NCTU.edu.tw (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA01425; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 23:54:10 +0800 (CST) Message-Id: <199901031554.XAA01425@Terry.Dorm10.NCTU.edu.tw> Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 23:54:10 +0800 (CST) From: Ying-Chieh Liao Reply-To: ijliao@Terry.Dorm10.NCTU.edu.tw To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/9288: typo in doc/FAQ/preface.sgml Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 9288 >Category: docs >Synopsis: typo in doc/FAQ/preface.sgml >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun Jan 3 08:00:00 PST 1999 >Last-Modified: >Originator: Ying-Chieh Liao >Organization: NCTU CSIE >Release: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386 >Environment: FreeBSD Terry.Dorm10.NCTU.edu.tw 3.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT #0: Sun Jan 3 22:09:56 CST 1999 root@Terry.Dorm10.NCTU.edu.tw:/usr/src/sys/compile/TERRY i386 >Description: typo in doc/FAQ/preface.sgml

That code in our source tree which falls under the GNU Public License ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ must be "GNU General Public License" (GPL) or GNU Library Public License (GLPL) comes with slightly more ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ must be "GNU Library General Public License (LGPL)" >How-To-Repeat: more doc/FAQ/preface.sgml >Fix: change "GNU Public License" to "GNU General Public License" change "GNU Library Public License (GLPL)" to "GNU Library General Public License (LGPL)" >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jan 3 08:42:15 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA10844 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 08:42:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp05.wxs.nl (smtp05.wxs.nl [195.121.6.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA10832 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 08:42:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.56.156]) by smtp05.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA1132; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 17:41:45 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <19990103115056.A28964@panke.de.freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 17:48:56 +0100 (CET) Organization: Ninth Circle Enterprises From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: Wolfram Schneider Subject: RE: How long are entries kept at /news/webchanges.html Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 03-Jan-99 Wolfram Schneider wrote: > When should we remove old entries at > http://www.freebsd.org/news/webchanges.html? After > > [ ] 1 month > [ ] 2 months > [ ] 3 months > [ ] 6 months I think 1 month is just too short and 6 months too long... So ye either get 6 times a year (2 months) or 4 times a year (3 months). Take which ye feel is more natural... I'd say 4 times a year... --- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven A veil of smoke is what I am, asmodai(at)wxs.nl I wait and I wait... Network/Security Specialist BSD & picoBSD: The Power to Serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jan 3 08:44:17 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA11240 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 08:44:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp03.wxs.nl (smtp03.wxs.nl [195.121.6.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA11235 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 08:44:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.56.156]) by smtp03.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA1C6A; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 17:43:49 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <368D4E8F.DC78788C@ping.be> Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 17:51:01 +0100 (CET) Organization: Ninth Circle Enterprises From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: patrik van looy Subject: RE: getting freebsd cdrom Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 01-Jan-99 patrik van looy wrote: > hi i'm from belgium and i want to know where can i get freebsd cd rom > patrik.vanlooy@ping.be There's an entry about it in the handbook. section 2 or 5 If ye have a credit card, order secure at cdrom.com. I wouldn't know an exact address in belgium, but Donner in Rotterdam (NL) will most likely have it (phone them first though) --- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven A veil of smoke is what I am, asmodai(at)wxs.nl I wait and I wait... Network/Security Specialist BSD & picoBSD: The Power to Serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jan 3 09:51:18 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA18511 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 09:51:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dns1.fujieda-ssu.ac.jp (dns1.fujieda-ssu.ac.jp [210.172.81.242]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA18505 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 09:51:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ste32@web-city.co.jp) From: ste32@web-city.co.jp Received: by dns1.fujieda-ssu.ac.jp (8.8.5+2.7Wbeta5/3.4W2) id CAA12184; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 02:53:37 +0900 (JST) Date: Sun, 03 Jan 99 10:16:14 EST To: juli90@worldnet.att.net Subject: StockNetworking News No. 11 Message-ID: <359DFE77.4AC9@erols.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org StockNetworking News No. 11 (SNN) HAPPY NEW YEAR AND PROFITABLE INVESTING TO ALL OUR SUBSCRIBERS IN 1999. 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In general, our best calls seemed to be on market direction - SNN remained confident that the market would continue to trend higher over the course of the full year and saw each market correction and pull back as a buying opportunity. The worst period were in August/September when the market gave up almost all of the gains it had achieved year to date and Mr. Clinton's troubles began to surface. The strong US dollar gave Mr. Greeenspan and the FED plenty of room to maneuver with interest rates and we saw the DJII rebound from the 8000 and close for the year just under 9200. The NASDAQ did much better moving from the low 1400's in October, to close at a phenomenal 2192 on December 31, 1999. SNN believes that the market will continue in a similar pattern for the next 3 to 4 months, at least. 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They will do everything in their power to talk down these stocks in 1999 - one of the more ludicrous "negative" scenarios that was being touted on CNBC and in other media last week was comparing the Internet stocks to the Bowling stocks of the 1960s. SNN believes that the paradigm shift that the Internet has, and will, inflict on the world economy is only beginning to be understood - comparing this to "Bowling"???? forget about it!!!. WINNERS AND LOSERS SNN had 4 stocks on which they prepared profiles in 1998 - FutureLink (Symbol FLNK), NuOnclogy Labs (Symbol NLAB), US Digital (Symbol USDI), and COMGEN (Symbol CGEE), all trade on the OTC BB. In our opinion the jury is still out on US Digital and COMGEN and we will update these situations early in 1999. By far our most disappointing company profiled was FutureLink. SNN still believes this company has tremendous potential. 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SNN No. 11 copyright 1999 SNN To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jan 3 12:42:48 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA05430 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 12:42:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (baerenklau.de.freebsd.org [195.185.195.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA05410; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 12:42:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id VAA22259; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 21:42:17 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from wosch@localhost) by campa.panke.de.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA01486; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 21:18:36 +0100 (MET) (envelope-from wosch) Message-ID: <19990103211834.A1482@panke.de.freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 21:18:34 +0100 From: Wolfram Schneider To: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: New release statistic index Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I wrote today a script which print a better readable index.html file for the FreeBSD releases statstic. The output contain tables. Please email if you cannot read it with your browser. The URl is http://www.freebsd.org/statistic/release_usage/1998/ -- Wolfram Schneider http://freebsd.org/~w/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jan 3 19:20:09 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA14395 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 19:20:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA14387 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 19:20:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id TAA04311; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 19:20:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from istari.home.net (cc158233-a.catv1.md.home.com [24.3.25.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA13820 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 19:12:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sjr@home.net) Received: (from sjr@localhost) by istari.home.net (8.9.1/8.8.6) id WAA30412; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 22:11:47 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199901040311.WAA30412@istari.home.net> Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 22:11:47 -0500 (EST) From: sjr@home.net Reply-To: sjr@home.net To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/9302: Addition for Y2Kbug page Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 9302 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Addition for Y2Kbug page >Confidential: no >Severity: serious >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun Jan 3 19:20:00 PST 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Stephen J. Roznowski >Release: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: >Environment: >Description: I've submitted three port related Y2K problem reports. This patch updates the web page with this information. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: --- www/en/y2kbug.sgml.orig Tue Dec 15 07:40:57 1998 +++ www/en/y2kbug.sgml Sun Jan 3 22:08:16 1999 @@ -114,6 +114,30 @@ bug has been fixed in version 1.1. +

ports/9295: INN 1.7.2 suffers from 2 Y2K related problems. One occurs when + pulling news (-f option to nntpget) and the other relates to + the Expire header with relative dates past 2000.

+ +

ports/9298: Knews suffers from 2 Y2K related problems. One occurs during + the generation of the NNTP NEWGROUPS command. The other occurs + because knews doesn't think that 2000 is a leap year. + Both are fixed in knews-1.0b.1.

+ +

ports/9300: Nntp-t5 suffers from a Y2K problem during the generation of + the NEWNEWS command.

More information

If you have further questions about FreeBSD's year 2000 compliance, or >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jan 3 20:33:45 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA21291 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 20:33:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gamma.aei.ca (gamma.aei.ca [206.123.6.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA21286 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 20:33:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from malartre@aei.ca) Received: from aei.ca (ppp-109-132.mtl.aei.ca [207.107.109.132]) by gamma.aei.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA29985; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 23:32:41 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3690441F.2DF78A10@aei.ca> Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 23:31:27 -0500 From: Malartre X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.8-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sue Blake CC: Wolfram Schneider , "Jordan K. Hubbard" , Nik Clayton , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Possible change to first page on site References: <12300.915050871@zippy.cdrom.com> <368D5457.B4FD24F5@aei.ca> <19990102130428.B26221@panke.de.freebsd.org> <19990102234426.42040@welearn.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sue Blake wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 02, 1999 at 01:04:28PM +0100, Wolfram Schneider wrote: > > On 1999-01-01 18:03:51 -0500, Malartre wrote: > > > > > One last thing, why not changing Getting FreeBSD to Installing FreeBSD? > > > I'm not an English expert(hehe), but "Installing" or something with > > > "Install" would be better than "Getting". > > > > Good idea. > > Getting FreeBSD sounds safer to me. > > First timers won't follow the link about installing. They think > download-then-install so it seems obvious to them that they have to > "get" it first, or at least check out where it is and how big the > freebsd.zip file is :-) Remove "get" and expect more of them to write > to -questions asking how to get it. Leave "Getting FreeBSD" there, and > we can trick some of them into actually going to the installation > instructions. > > -- > > Regards, > -*Sue*- Ok Sue, I'll follow that way: I have a demo of what it could be to really answer "damn, where do they hide freebsd.zip!". http://www.aei.ca/~malartre/var/ http://www.aei.ca/~malartre/var/newbies/whatis.html http://www.aei.ca/~malartre/var/newbies/nozip.html The two first link in the FreeBSD! section are made by me, and are not perfect, but has I said, this is just a demo :-) -- [Malartre][malartre@aei.ca][http://www.lowrent.org/freebsd/malartre/ [LowRent.Org is down...] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jan 3 21:14:26 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA24371 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 21:14:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (welearn.com.au [139.130.44.81] (may be forged)) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA24359 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 21:14:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sue@phoenix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from sue@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.0) id QAA17331; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 16:13:39 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <19990104161332.62077@welearn.com.au> Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 16:13:32 +1100 From: Sue Blake To: Malartre Cc: Wolfram Schneider , "Jordan K. Hubbard" , Nik Clayton , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Possible change to first page on site References: <12300.915050871@zippy.cdrom.com> <368D5457.B4FD24F5@aei.ca> <19990102130428.B26221@panke.de.freebsd.org> <19990102234426.42040@welearn.com.au> <3690441F.2DF78A10@aei.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88e In-Reply-To: <3690441F.2DF78A10@aei.ca>; from Malartre on Sun, Jan 03, 1999 at 11:31:27PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Jan 03, 1999 at 11:31:27PM -0500, Malartre wrote: > Sue Blake wrote: > > > > On Sat, Jan 02, 1999 at 01:04:28PM +0100, Wolfram Schneider wrote: > > > On 1999-01-01 18:03:51 -0500, Malartre wrote: > > > > > > > One last thing, why not changing Getting FreeBSD to Installing FreeBSD? > > > > I'm not an English expert(hehe), but "Installing" or something with > > > > "Install" would be better than "Getting". > > > > > > Good idea. > > > > Getting FreeBSD sounds safer to me. > > > > First timers won't follow the link about installing. They think > > download-then-install so it seems obvious to them that they have to > > "get" it first, or at least check out where it is and how big the > > freebsd.zip file is :-) Remove "get" and expect more of them to write > > to -questions asking how to get it. Leave "Getting FreeBSD" there, and > > we can trick some of them into actually going to the installation > > instructions. > > > > -- > > > > Regards, > > -*Sue*- > Ok Sue, I'll follow that way: I have a demo of what it could be to > really answer "damn, where do they hide freebsd.zip!". > http://www.aei.ca/~malartre/var/ > http://www.aei.ca/~malartre/var/newbies/whatis.html > http://www.aei.ca/~malartre/var/newbies/nozip.html > The two first link in the FreeBSD! section are made by me, and are not > perfect, but has I said, this is just a demo :-) You have some good ideas there. I particularly like the "Quick Answers" in whatis.html, but I fear that while they will make good sense to microsoft refugees they will cause seasoned FreeBSD users to cringe :-) I'd love to see something short, direct and windows-understandable like this, close to the web site's entry point. My other approach was to give the misunderstanding strays something more readable that will keep everyone out of each other's hair long enough to get a few things into perspective. Draft: http://www.welearn.com.au/freebsd/win.html -- Regards, -*Sue*- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jan 3 22:50:11 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA03553 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 22:50:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA03540 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 22:50:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id WAA13320; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 22:50:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.nk.rim.or.jp (mail.nk.rim.or.jp [202.247.130.165]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA03432 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 22:49:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kuma@nk.rim.or.jp) Received: from laurel.nk.rim.or.jp (ppp088.nk.rim.or.jp [202.247.176.88]) by mail.nk.rim.or.jp (8.8.5/3.6W-RIMNET-98-06-09) with ESMTP id PAA18690; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 15:49:21 +0900 (JST) Received: (from kuma@localhost) by laurel.nk.rim.or.jp (8.8.8/8.8.8laurel981130) id NAA01096 Message-Id: <199901040649.PAA18690@mail.nk.rim.or.jp> Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 13:33:38 +0900 (JST) From: kuma@jp.freebsd.org Reply-To: kuma@jp.freebsd.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: horikawa@jp.freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/9305: add 'some '.Pa' macros in security.7 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 9305 >Category: docs >Synopsis: To use some '.Pa' macros be better in security.7 >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun Jan 3 22:50:01 PST 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Norihiro Kumagai >Release: 3.0-19981225-SNAP >Organization: Japanese FreeBSD manual pages translation project >Environment: 3.0-19981225-SNAP (not 19981226) plus my modification reported in 'docs/9238' >Description: There are several path strings which I think should be applied to '.Pa' macros in the security.7 manpage. >How-To-Repeat: (nope) >Fix: Please consider the following patch. --- security.7-docs9238 Wed Dec 30 11:22:55 1998 +++ security.7 Mon Jan 4 13:14:31 1999 @@ -141,7 +141,7 @@ all other servers that handle login operations to refuse root logins, period, whether the right password is given or not. Allow direct root logins only via the system console. The -.Sq /etc/ttys +.Sq Pa /etc/ttys file comes in handy here and is secure by default on most systems, but a good sysadmin always checks to make sure. @@ -150,7 +150,7 @@ a few holes. But we make sure these holes require additional password verification to operate. One way to make root accessible is to add appropriate staff accounts to the wheel group -.Pq in /etc/group . +.Pq in Pa /etc/group . The staff members placed in the wheel group are allowed to .Sq su @@ -260,7 +260,13 @@ .Pp The other big potential root hole in a system are the suid-root and sgid binaries installed on the system. Most of these binaries, such as rlogin, -reside in /bin, /sbin, /usr/bin, or /usr/sbin. While nothing is 100% safe, +reside in +.Pa /bin , +.Pa /sbin , +.Pa /usr/bin , +or +.Pa /usr/sbin . +While nothing is 100% safe, the system-default suid and sgid binaries can be considered reasonably safe. Still, root holes are occassionaly found in these binaries. A root hole was found in Xlib in 1998 that made xterm @@ -273,7 +279,9 @@ any suid binaries that nobody uses. A server with no display generally does not need an xterm binary. Sgid binaries can be almost as dangerous. If a hacker can break an sgid-kmem binary the -hacker might be able to read /dev/kmem and thus read the crypted password +hacker might be able to read +.Pa /dev/kmem +and thus read the crypted password file, potentially compromising any passworded account. A hacker that breaks the tty group can write to almost user's tty. If a user is running a terminal program or emulator with a talk-back feature, the hacker can potentially @@ -294,7 +302,7 @@ The only sure fire way is to *-out as many passwords as you can and use ssh or kerberos for access to those accounts. Even though the crypted password file -.Pq /etc/spwd.db +.Pq Pa /etc/spwd.db can only be read by root, it may be possible for a hacker to obtain read access to that file even if the attacker cannot obtain root-write access. @@ -325,7 +333,11 @@ with the NO_LKM option. .Pp But even if you turn off the bpf device, and turn off the module loader, -you still have /dev/mem and /dev/kmem to worry about. For that matter, +you still have +.Pa /dev/mem +and +.Pa /dev/kmem +to worry about. For that matter, the hacker can still write raw devices. To avoid this you have to run the kernel at a higher secure level... at least securelevel 1. The securelevel can be set with a sysctl on the kern.securelevel variable. Once you have @@ -368,7 +380,12 @@ and md5 binary and then ssh a shell command to the remote machine to md5 all the files in the system .Po -or, at least, the /, /var, and /usr partitions! +or, at least, the +.Pa / , +.Pa /var , +and +.Pa /usr +partitions! .Pc . The security machine copies the results to a file and diff's them against results from a previous run (or compares the results against its own >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jan 3 22:50:11 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA03554 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 22:50:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA03535 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 22:50:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id WAA13310; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 22:50:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.nk.rim.or.jp (mail.nk.rim.or.jp [202.247.130.165]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA03426 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 22:49:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kuma@nk.rim.or.jp) Received: from laurel.nk.rim.or.jp (ppp088.nk.rim.or.jp [202.247.176.88]) by mail.nk.rim.or.jp (8.8.5/3.6W-RIMNET-98-06-09) with ESMTP id PAA18686; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 15:49:19 +0900 (JST) Received: (from kuma@localhost) by laurel.nk.rim.or.jp (8.8.8/8.8.8laurel981130) id OAA01276 Message-Id: <199901040649.PAA18686@mail.nk.rim.or.jp> Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 14:15:43 +0900 (JST) From: kuma@jp.freebsd.org Reply-To: kuma@jp.freebsd.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: horikawa@jp.freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/9304: then -> than, in security.7 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 9304 >Category: docs >Synopsis: a possible typo in security.7 >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun Jan 3 22:50:00 PST 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Norihiro Kumagai >Release: 3.0-19981225-SNAP >Organization: Japanese FreeBSD manual translation project >Environment: 3.0-19981225-SNAP (not 19981226) >Description: The word 'then' in the following sentense should be 'than', I think. Sendmail has its -OMaxDaemonChildren option which tends to work much better then trying to use sendmail's load limiting options due to the load lag. >How-To-Repeat: (nope) >Fix: Please apply the following patch. It might be different in its line number because my modification has already applied to the original one.) --- security.7 Mon Jan 4 13:14:31 1999 +++ security.7-new Mon Jan 4 14:07:17 1999 @@ -483,7 +483,7 @@ Sendmail has its .Fl OMaxDaemonChildren option which tends to work much -better then trying to use sendmail's load limiting options due to the +better than trying to use sendmail's load limiting options due to the load lag. You should specify a .Cm MaxDaemonChildren parameter when you start >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jan 3 23:12:33 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA06220 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 23:12:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gamma.aei.ca (gamma.aei.ca [206.123.6.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA06211 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 23:12:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from malartre@aei.ca) Received: from aei.ca (ppp-110-16.mtl.aei.ca [207.107.110.16]) by gamma.aei.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA12100; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 02:11:38 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <36906960.4191C5AB@aei.ca> Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 02:10:24 -0500 From: Malartre X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.8-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: fr, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sue Blake CC: Wolfram Schneider , "Jordan K. Hubbard" , Nik Clayton , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Possible change to first page on site References: <12300.915050871@zippy.cdrom.com> <368D5457.B4FD24F5@aei.ca> <19990102130428.B26221@panke.de.freebsd.org> <19990102234426.42040@welearn.com.au> <3690441F.2DF78A10@aei.ca> <19990104161332.62077@welearn.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sue Blake wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 03, 1999 at 11:31:27PM -0500, Malartre wrote: > > Sue Blake wrote: > > > > > > On Sat, Jan 02, 1999 at 01:04:28PM +0100, Wolfram Schneider wrote: > > > > On 1999-01-01 18:03:51 -0500, Malartre wrote: > > > > > > > > > One last thing, why not changing Getting FreeBSD to Installing FreeBSD? > > > > > I'm not an English expert(hehe), but "Installing" or something with > > > > > "Install" would be better than "Getting". > > > > > > > > Good idea. > > > > > > Getting FreeBSD sounds safer to me. > > > > > > First timers won't follow the link about installing. They think > > > download-then-install so it seems obvious to them that they have to > > > "get" it first, or at least check out where it is and how big the > > > freebsd.zip file is :-) Remove "get" and expect more of them to write > > > to -questions asking how to get it. Leave "Getting FreeBSD" there, and > > > we can trick some of them into actually going to the installation > > > instructions. > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Regards, > > > -*Sue*- > > Ok Sue, I'll follow that way: I have a demo of what it could be to > > really answer "damn, where do they hide freebsd.zip!". > > http://www.aei.ca/~malartre/var/ > > http://www.aei.ca/~malartre/var/newbies/whatis.html > > http://www.aei.ca/~malartre/var/newbies/nozip.html > > The two first link in the FreeBSD! section are made by me, and are not > > perfect, but has I said, this is just a demo :-) > > You have some good ideas there. I particularly like the "Quick Answers" > in whatis.html, but I fear that while they will make good sense to > microsoft refugees they will cause seasoned FreeBSD users to cringe :-) > I'd love to see something short, direct and windows-understandable > like this, close to the web site's entry point. > > My other approach was to give the misunderstanding strays something > more readable that will keep everyone out of each other's hair long > enough to get a few things into perspective. Draft: > http://www.welearn.com.au/freebsd/win.html > > -- > > Regards, > -*Sue*- I try to keep it short. It is clearly not for those True FreeBSD Guru. I liked win.html, it should also be has a complementary description of why FreeBSD make you feel good :-) This is a reserved space for new users, and old guru should understand why it is like that. And I'm sure Linux users(who try FreeBSD) would be happy to see such a level of documentation. -- [Malartre][malartre@aei.ca][http://www.lowrent.org/freebsd/malartre/] [LowRent.Org is down...] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jan 4 02:35:26 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA26678 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 02:35:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from wanadoo.fr (smtp-out-002.wanadoo.fr [193.252.19.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA26673 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 02:35:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stephane@wanadoo.fr) Received: from nev2-105.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.252.208.105] by wanadoo.fr for Paris Mon, 4 Jan 1999 11:32:35 +0100 (MET) Received: (from stephane@localhost) by sequoia.mondomaineamoi.megalo (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA00470; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 11:31:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from stephane) Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 11:31:06 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <199901041031.LAA00470@sequoia.mondomaineamoi.megalo> From: Stephane Legrand MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Possible change to first page on site In-Reply-To: <19990104161332.62077@welearn.com.au> References: <12300.915050871@zippy.cdrom.com> <368D5457.B4FD24F5@aei.ca> <19990102130428.B26221@panke.de.freebsd.org> <19990102234426.42040@welearn.com.au> <3690441F.2DF78A10@aei.ca> <19990104161332.62077@welearn.com.au> X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 20.3 "Vatican City" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sue Blake writes: > On Sun, Jan 03, 1999 at 11:31:27PM -0500, Malartre wrote: > > Sue Blake wrote: > > > > > > On Sat, Jan 02, 1999 at 01:04:28PM +0100, Wolfram Schneider wrote: > > > > On 1999-01-01 18:03:51 -0500, Malartre wrote: > > > > > > > > > One last thing, why not changing Getting FreeBSD to Installing FreeBSD? > > > > > I'm not an English expert(hehe), but "Installing" or something with > > > > > "Install" would be better than "Getting". > > > > > > > > Good idea. > > > > > > Getting FreeBSD sounds safer to me. > > > > > > First timers won't follow the link about installing. They think > > > download-then-install so it seems obvious to them that they have to > > > "get" it first, or at least check out where it is and how big the > > > freebsd.zip file is :-) Remove "get" and expect more of them to write > > > to -questions asking how to get it. Leave "Getting FreeBSD" there, and > > > we can trick some of them into actually going to the installation > > > instructions. > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Regards, > > > -*Sue*- > > Ok Sue, I'll follow that way: I have a demo of what it could be to > > really answer "damn, where do they hide freebsd.zip!". > > http://www.aei.ca/~malartre/var/ > > http://www.aei.ca/~malartre/var/newbies/whatis.html > > http://www.aei.ca/~malartre/var/newbies/nozip.html > > The two first link in the FreeBSD! section are made by me, and are not > > perfect, but has I said, this is just a demo :-) > > You have some good ideas there. I particularly like the "Quick Answers" > in whatis.html, but I fear that while they will make good sense to > microsoft refugees they will cause seasoned FreeBSD users to cringe :-) > I'd love to see something short, direct and windows-understandable > like this, close to the web site's entry point. > > My other approach was to give the misunderstanding strays something > more readable that will keep everyone out of each other's hair long > enough to get a few things into perspective. Draft: > http://www.welearn.com.au/freebsd/win.html > > Just a suggestion : could the first page become a CGI script which look at the browser name ("HTTP_USER_AGENT") and send a special newby page for the Window$ or Mac browsers ? -- Stephane.Legrand@wanadoo.fr | FreeBSD Francophone http://perso.wanadoo.fr/stephane.legrand/ | http://www.freebsd-fr.org/ "Laissez les developpeurs developpes et les octets seront bien gardes" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jan 4 03:10:51 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA29773 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 03:10:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from imap.ncsa.es (imap.ncsa.es [194.179.50.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA29765 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 03:10:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jesusr@ncsa.es) Received: from piolin.ncsa.es (piolin.ncsa.es [194.179.50.134]) by imap.ncsa.es (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA25395; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 12:10:08 +0100 (CET) Reply-To: "Jesus Rodriguez" From: "Jesus Rodriguez" To: "Stephane Legrand" Cc: Subject: RE: Possible change to first page on site Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 12:17:02 +0100 Message-ID: <01bd1902$47ceb500$8632b3c2@piolin.ncsa.es> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Just a suggestion : could the first page become a CGI script which >look at the browser name ("HTTP_USER_AGENT") and send a special newby >page for the Window$ or Mac browsers ? I think this is not a good idea because not everybody using Windows or Mac browsers are newby... usual FreeBSD users may use Windows or Mac at job or some other place... JesusR. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jan 4 03:17:37 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA00264 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 03:17:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from imap.ncsa.es (imap.ncsa.es [194.179.50.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA00253 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 03:17:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jesusr@ncsa.es) Received: from piolin.ncsa.es (piolin.ncsa.es [194.179.50.134]) by imap.ncsa.es (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA25522; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 12:16:39 +0100 (CET) Reply-To: "Jesus Rodriguez" From: "Jesus Rodriguez" To: "Nik Clayton" Cc: Subject: RE: Translator's mailing list, and/or tools Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 12:23:32 +0100 Message-ID: <01bd1903$30935480$8632b3c2@piolin.ncsa.es> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >First, would it be useful if there was a "translations" mailing list, >for you guys to discuss issues relating to translating FreeBSD >documentation, share tips, and so on? Or is -doc sufficient? I think it's a good idea... >What I'm really looking for is a "This is how you translate the >FAQ/HandBook/Manpages" document that people can be pointed to. I don't >suppose any of you have one, or are working on one? We are working on it. When we finish, it wiil be included on web. JesusR. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jan 4 04:14:16 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA06873 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 04:14:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from wanadoo.fr (smtp-out-002.wanadoo.fr [193.252.19.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA06868 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 04:14:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stephane@wanadoo.fr) Received: from dij3-181.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.252.150.181] by wanadoo.fr for Paris Mon, 4 Jan 1999 13:11:27 +0100 (MET) Received: (from stephane@localhost) by sequoia.mondomaineamoi.megalo (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA00621; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 13:12:30 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from stephane) Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 13:12:30 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <199901041212.NAA00621@sequoia.mondomaineamoi.megalo> From: Stephane Legrand MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Possible change to first page on site In-Reply-To: <01bd1902$47ceb500$8632b3c2@piolin.ncsa.es> References: <01bd1902$47ceb500$8632b3c2@piolin.ncsa.es> X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 20.3 "Vatican City" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jesus Rodriguez writes: > > >Just a suggestion : could the first page become a CGI script which > >look at the browser name ("HTTP_USER_AGENT") and send a special newby > >page for the Window$ or Mac browsers ? > > > I think this is not a good idea because not everybody using Windows or Mac > browsers are newby... usual FreeBSD users may use Windows or Mac at job or > some other place... > > JesusR. > Yes, of course. I agree that not _every_ Mac or Window$ users are newbies to FreeBSD. But i think there is lot of more chance that a newby uses a Window$ or a Mac browser than a FreeBSD one :) This is just a suggestion to try to increase the chance to send a page which will fit the user needs. -- Stephane.Legrand@wanadoo.fr | FreeBSD Francophone http://perso.wanadoo.fr/stephane.legrand/ | http://www.freebsd-fr.org/ "Laissez les developpeurs developpes et les octets seront bien gardes" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jan 4 15:57:37 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA25803 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 15:57:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cergy1-1.isdnet.net (cergy1-5.isdnet.net [194.149.184.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA25790 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 15:57:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from robert@cergy1-1.isdnet.net) Received: (from robert@localhost) by cergy1-1.isdnet.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA03312 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 00:37:13 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from robert) From: Robert Brive Message-Id: <199901042337.AAA03312@cergy1-1.isdnet.net> Subject: Re: Translator's mailing list, and/or tools In-Reply-To: <01bd1903$30935480$8632b3c2@piolin.ncsa.es> from Jesus Rodriguez at "Jan 4, 1998 12:23:32 pm" To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 00:37:12 +0100 (CET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > >First, would it be useful if there was a "translations" mailing list, > >for you guys to discuss issues relating to translating FreeBSD > >documentation, share tips, and so on? Or is -doc sufficient? > > > I think it's a good idea... Perhaps, the best thing is to stay with one general list (freebsd-doc) and several natives lists (one for each language). For example, I've seen quite often the same french people on freebsd-doc and on freebsd-france@freebsd.francenet.fr (in native language for this one). And if there were aliases on freebsd.org for freebsd-doc-es, freebsd-doc-fr, ... pointing on the relevant lists, it would help people. And for contries that could not afford a mailing server, freebsd.org could help them. > > >What I'm really looking for is a "This is how you translate the > >FAQ/HandBook/Manpages" document that people can be pointed to. I don't > >suppose any of you have one, or are working on one? > > We are working on it. When we finish, it wiil be included on web. > > JesusR. > -- Robert Brive To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jan 4 19:48:08 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA21304 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 19:48:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from as5200-01-254.no.neosoft.com (as5200-01-254.no.neosoft.com [206.27.167.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA21299 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 19:48:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from conrads@as5200-01-254.no.neosoft.com) Received: (from conrads@localhost) by as5200-01-254.no.neosoft.com (8.9.1/8.8.7) id VAA08700 for doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 21:47:01 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from conrads) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 21:47:00 -0600 (CST) Reply-To: conrads@neosoft.com From: Conrad Sabatier To: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Kernel configuration docs a neglected area? Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org While the documentation of the actual steps involved in configuring, building and installing a new kernel are quite adequate, I think, there's still lots of room for improvement in the documentation of the meanings and ramifications of all the various options, controllers, devices, etc. that one can include in one's kernel configuration file. These one-liners in the LINT file just don't explain enough in many cases. While I realize the development team already has its hands full and can hardly afford the time to meticulously document each and every possible kernel configuration line, it still seems to me nonetheless that this is one area that simply cries out for more attention. How this might be achieved is, of course, another matter altogether. :-) -- Conrad Sabatier You cannot propel yourself forward by patting yourself on the back. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jan 4 20:04:16 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA23381 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 20:04:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA23373 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 20:04:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA65053; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 20:03:38 -0800 (PST) To: conrads@neosoft.com cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Kernel configuration docs a neglected area? In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 04 Jan 1999 21:47:00 CST." Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 20:03:38 -0800 Message-ID: <65049.915509018@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > While I realize the development team already has its hands full and can > hardly afford the time to meticulously document each and every possible > kernel configuration line, it still seems to me nonetheless that this is > one area that simply cries out for more attention. Sure does. > How this might be achieved is, of course, another matter altogether. :-) You were going to contribute the aformentioned docs, you simply forgot to hit the "attach" button on your netscape mail client and include them with your comments. Please try again. :-) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 5 01:14:29 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA20007 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 01:14:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hotmail.com (f87.hotmail.com [207.82.250.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA19964 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 01:14:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from maw58@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 16719 invoked by uid 0); 5 Jan 1999 09:14:00 -0000 Message-ID: <19990105091400.16718.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 212.41.195.112 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 05 Jan 1999 01:14:00 PST X-Originating-IP: [212.41.195.112] From: "M.A.W. Media Art Work" To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: subscribe Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 01:14:00 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org subscribe nightsmackshade@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 5 02:00:10 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA24443 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 02:00:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA24429 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 02:00:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id CAA24814; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 02:00:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.yk.rim.or.jp (mail.yk.rim.or.jp [202.247.130.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA24284 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 01:59:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from k-horik@yk.rim.or.jp) Received: from localhost (ppp455.yk.rim.or.jp [202.247.165.155]) by mail.yk.rim.or.jp (8.8.5/3.6W-RIMNET-98-06-09) with ESMTP id SAA20389 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 18:59:16 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <19990105185836P.k-horik@yk.rim.or.jp> Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 18:58:36 +0900 From: horikawa@jp.freebsd.org Reply-To: horikawa@jp.freebsd.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/9325: Introduction of 3 Japanese books Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 9325 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Introduction of 3 Japanese books >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Jan 5 02:00:01 PST 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Kazuo Horikawa >Release: FreeBSD 2.2.7-RELEASE i386 >Organization: FreeBSD Users Group, Japan. >Environment: >Description: I would like to introduce 3 Japanese books related to FreeBSD. o FreeBSD Install and Utilization Manual o FreeBSD User's Reference Manual o FreeBSD System Administrator's Manual >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: (1) Please apply attached diffs. (2) Please fetch title page graphics tarball http://www.jp.freebsd.org/~horikawa/gifs.tar.gz, extract *.jpg files, and move them to gifs/ directory. --- doc/handbook/bibliography.sgml.orig Wed Dec 30 16:22:59 1998 +++ doc/handbook/bibliography.sgml Wed Dec 30 16:34:31 1998 @@ -40,6 +40,11 @@ FreeBSD mit Methode (in German), published by Computer und Literatur Verlag/Vertrieb Hanser, 1998. ISBN 3-932311-31-0. + (in Japanese), + published by , ISBN4-8399-0112-0 P3600E.

English language books & Magazines: @@ -80,6 +85,16 @@ url="http://www-wks.acs.ohio-state.edu/unix_course/unix.html" name="UNIX Introductory Course"> which is available online in HTML and postscript format. + + . + + (Japanese translation). + , 1998. + ISBN4-8399-0088-4 P3800E. + @@ -117,6 +132,15 @@ Stern, Hal Managing NFS and NIS O'Reilly & Associates, Inc., 1991. ISBN 0-937175-75-7 + + . + + (Japanese translation). + , 1998. + ISBN4-8399-0109-0 P3300E. --- www/en/publish.sgml.orig Mon Dec 28 03:59:32 1998 +++ www/en/publish.sgml Mon Dec 28 04:25:41 1998 @@ -68,6 +68,28 @@ 2 CDROMs, FreeBSD 2.2.6, NetBSD 1.2.1 and 1.3.2, OpenBSD 2.2 and 2.3. DM 98,-. +This is the "FreeBSD Install and +utilization manual" from Mainichi Communications. General +introduction to FreeBSD from installation to utilization with +troubleshooting under the supervision of the user group in +Japan. 2.2.7-RELEASE FreeBSD(98)2.2.7-Rev01 PAO and distfiles in +CDROM. 472 pages, 3,600yen. + +The "FreeBSD User's Reference Manual" from +Mainichi Communications, under the supervision of "jpman project", +the manual transtation project by the user group in Japan. +Japanese edition of the section 1 of the FreeBSD manual. 2.2.7-RELEASE +FreeBSD(98)2.2.7-Rev01 and PAO in CDROM. 1,040 pages, 3,800yen. + +The "FreeBSD System Administrator's Manual" +from Mainichi Communications, under the supervision of "jpman project", +the manual translation project by the user group in Japan. +Japanese edition of the section 5 and 8 of the FreeBSD manual. +756 pages, 3,300yen. + >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 5 04:14:00 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA07647 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 04:14:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nteslj1.rtvslo.si (ozone.rtvslo.si [193.77.198.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA07631 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 04:13:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Aleks.Smuc@rtvslo.si) Received: by nteslj1.lj.rtvslo.si with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 13:10:44 +0100 Message-ID: <781D597F2665D211905700A0C9A9C87F3181EC@nteslj1.lj.rtvslo.si> From: Aleks Smuc To: "'freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG'" Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 13:10:43 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 5 06:05:29 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA18142 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 06:05:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from as5200-01-254.no.neosoft.com (as5200-01-254.no.neosoft.com [206.27.167.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA18136 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 06:05:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from conrads@as5200-01-254.no.neosoft.com) Received: (from conrads@localhost) by as5200-01-254.no.neosoft.com (8.9.1/8.8.7) id IAA00919; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 08:04:14 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from conrads) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <65049.915509018@zippy.cdrom.com> Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 08:04:14 -0600 (CST) Reply-To: conrads@neosoft.com From: Conrad Sabatier To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Subject: Re: Kernel configuration docs a neglected area? Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 05-Jan-99 Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: [I had written] >> While I realize the development team already has its hands full and can >> hardly afford the time to meticulously document each and every possible >> kernel configuration line, it still seems to me nonetheless that this is >> one area that simply cries out for more attention. > > Sure does. > >> How this might be achieved is, of course, another matter altogether. >> :-) > > You were going to contribute the aformentioned docs, you simply forgot > to hit the "attach" button on your netscape mail client ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Ick! :-) > and include > them with your comments. Please try again. :-) But you see, that's the problem. I'd gladly help out with this (writing that AWE setup tutorial has whet my appetite for doc-writing), but there are still too many things in LINT that aren't totally clear to me (I'm sure I'm not alone in this), and where to find the needed information is fairly mysterious in some cases. Perhaps if each person responsible for item X in LINT could simply provide a pointer to any existing documentation for their particular contribution, a simple "see man X" or "see /usr/share/doc/foo/X" in LINT, might at least get us off to a decent start. I'm just grabbing at any possiblity here. :-) Incidentally, if you've checked out my AWE tutorial and see no problems with it, feel free to include a pointer to it in LINT, if you like: http://www.neosoft.com/~conrads/awepnp-freebsd.txt -- Conrad Sabatier Individualists unite! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 5 07:20:10 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA25875 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 07:20:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA25863 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 07:20:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id HAA06799; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 07:20:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.yk.rim.or.jp (mail.yk.rim.or.jp [202.247.130.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA25666 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 07:18:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from k-horik@yk.rim.or.jp) Received: from localhost (ppp424.yk.rim.or.jp [202.247.165.124]) by mail.yk.rim.or.jp (8.8.5/3.6W-RIMNET-98-06-09) with ESMTP id AAA17183 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 00:17:57 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <19990106001723T.k-horik@yk.rim.or.jp> Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 00:17:23 +0900 From: Kazuo Horikawa Reply-To: horikawa@jp.freebsd.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/9328: vinum.8 should not use .TS H/.TH N (vinum.8 has "N()" as header) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 9328 >Category: docs >Synopsis: vinum.8 should not use .TS H/.TH N (vinum.8 has "N()" as header) >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Jan 5 07:20:00 PST 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Kazuo Horikawa >Release: FreeBSD 2.2.7-RELEASE i386 >Organization: FreeBSD Users Group, Japan. >Environment: src/sbin/vinum/vinum.8 revision 1.3 (HEAD) >Description: Manpage src/sbin/vinum/vinum.8 uses .TS H/.TH N for multi-page boxed table, but -mdoc (/usr/share/tmac/tmac.doc) macro does not handle .TS H/.TH N for multi-page boxed table. Roff macro /usr/share/tmac/tmac.an defines "TH" as follows: .\" Load either tmac.an or tmac.doc. [snip] .de TH .rm TH .do mso tmac.groff_an \\*(TH\\ .. and roff macro /usr/share/tmac/tmac.groff_an defiles "TH" as follows: .\" .TH title section extra1 extra2 extra3 .de TH .cp 0 .de an-init \" We have to do it like this to get multiple man pages right. .ds an-title "\\$1 .ds an-section "\\$2 .ds an-extra1 "\\$3 [snip] In manual pages which use -man macro, "TH" macro are used like: .TH GCC 1 "\*(Dt" "GNU Tools" "GNU Tools" So, formatting vinum.8 by $ tbl vinum.8 | groff -man -Tascii give us following output: [snip] 6 N() N() org organization Specify the organization of the plex. [stripesize] organization can be one of concat, striped or [snip] >How-To-Repeat: $ man 8 vinum >Fix: I think that ".TH N" should be removed from src/sbin/vinum/vinum.8 revision 1.3 (HEAD). --- vinum.8.orig Tue Jan 5 21:34:03 1999 +++ vinum.8 Tue Jan 5 21:34:11 1999 @@ -636,7 +636,6 @@ tab(#) ; l lw50 . Option#Meaning -.TH N T{ .Nm plex .Ar plexname @@ -701,7 +700,6 @@ tab(#) ; l lw50 . Option#Meaning -.TH N T{ .Nm name .Ar plexname >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 5 09:01:45 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA06660 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 09:01:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA06654 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 09:01:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA05641; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 09:01:05 -0800 (PST) To: conrads@neosoft.com cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Kernel configuration docs a neglected area? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 05 Jan 1999 08:04:14 CST." Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 09:01:04 -0800 Message-ID: <5637.915555664@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > But you see, that's the problem. I'd gladly help out with this (writing > that AWE setup tutorial has whet my appetite for doc-writing), but there > are still too many things in LINT that aren't totally clear to me (I'm sure > I'm not alone in this), and where to find the needed information is fairly > mysterious in some cases. No mystery at all - UTSL! :-) Seriously, the sources are really the only docs for most of this stuff and *somebody* ends up needing to mine them for information at some stage in the doc process, so it's not like that's an optional part of the gig anyway. The authors of each chunk of code (most of whom are unavailable to us) are usually the least help in this, to be honest, since all their free time is taken up just in worrying about the purely technical issues. Also, the best programmers seems to be the worst at writing docs. :-) > Perhaps if each person responsible for item X in LINT could simply provide > a pointer to any existing documentation for their particular contribution, > a simple "see man X" or "see /usr/share/doc/foo/X" in LINT, might at least > get us off to a decent start. If you wait for this to happen, hell will freeze over before the doc gets written. :) > Incidentally, if you've checked out my AWE tutorial and see no problems > with it, feel free to include a pointer to it in LINT, if you like: I'd prefer for us to bring all such docs into a central place and then come up with a terser comment markup standard for LINT if that's how we choose to go. Otherwise, you get various links timing out and comments in LINT which go stale and require manual intervention. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 5 13:16:57 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA09394 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 13:16:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA09373; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 13:16:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@FreeBSD.org) From: Greg Lehey Received: (from grog@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id NAA29986; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 13:16:42 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 13:16:42 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199901052116.NAA29986@freefall.freebsd.org> To: grog@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG, grog@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/9328 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: vinum.8 should not use .TS H/.TH N (vinum.8 has "N()" as header) Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->grog Responsible-Changed-By: grog Responsible-Changed-When: Tue Jan 5 13:15:41 PST 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: Assigned to responsible developer To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 5 13:47:35 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA14434 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 13:47:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (welearn.com.au [139.130.44.81] (may be forged)) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA14413 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 13:47:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sue@phoenix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from sue@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.0) id IAA24141; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 08:46:24 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <19990106084618.64906@welearn.com.au> Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 08:46:18 +1100 From: Sue Blake To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: conrads@neosoft.com, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Kernel configuration docs a neglected area? References: <5637.915555664@zippy.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88e In-Reply-To: <5637.915555664@zippy.cdrom.com>; from Jordan K. Hubbard on Tue, Jan 05, 1999 at 09:01:04AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Jan 05, 1999 at 09:01:04AM -0800, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > But you see, that's the problem. I'd gladly help out with this (writing > > that AWE setup tutorial has whet my appetite for doc-writing), but there > > are still too many things in LINT that aren't totally clear to me (I'm sure > > I'm not alone in this), and where to find the needed information is fairly > > mysterious in some cases. > > No mystery at all - UTSL! :-) > > Seriously, the sources are really the only docs for most of this stuff > and *somebody* ends up needing to mine them for information at some > stage in the doc process, so it's not like that's an optional part of > the gig anyway. The authors of each chunk of code (most of whom are > unavailable to us) are usually the least help in this, to be honest, > since all their free time is taken up just in worrying about the > purely technical issues. Also, the best programmers seems to be the > worst at writing docs. :-) For my humble needs, the documentation is adequate and the whole procedure easy to understand. The trouble is that it's really awkward to work through carefully because - The documentation is in three different places (GENERIC, LINT, Handbook) - With those docs and a text editor, this means having four windows in view at once. Pretty hard if X isn't available (yet). - It isn't real easy to read these three docs together because they are structureless and the order of items is different. If this is likely to be the experience of others, I have a simple suggestion that would make it easier without burdening those who update these documents: Divide each document (LINT, GENERIC, Handbook) visually into a number of sections with headings that leap out (rows of ### or something). List these headings at the top of each document. The order of items within these sections can change, but have the sections in the same order within each document, with consistent headings. LINT has been divided up like this a bit, but the headings are not listed at the top and don't coincide with those used in the Handbook. The first section needs a heading. The hardware device configuration section is large enough to get lost in, though it does have subheadings (or are they just comments? are the underlined ones different?). The Handbook splits it up into bit sized chunks, but it's not immediately obvious how to relate them to the actual config files. GENERIC doesn't seem to have any headings, just comments. (ISTR that we need to keep the comment lines in GENERIC to a minumum. Are characters significant or just lines?) The fourth reference, my own kernel's config file, is worse than the lot of them because I've never been encouraged to follow a structure. These changes would make it a lot easier to compare the documents, easier to look for related information in all documents (including new docs if they happen) even when few windows are available, lessen the chance of including one keyword three times because it was encountered at different places/times, make the files look much less intimidating for new users (encourage reading), and give the slowpokes several opportunities to mentally tick off a section, save the file, and take a head-clearing break (or other substance). I'm assuming that the presence of obvious headings, also listed at the top, would be enough to cause those who invent new entries to slot them into the appropriate section without significantly changing the way people work now. Does this seem worthwhile or not? Yeah, yeah, I should send diffs but I don't understand enough to know what belongs together and what to call them without doing more harm than good. If someone sent me a list of headings that would work long term, and a preferred order, I'd have a go at fitting stuff under them consistently for the three documents. 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The man page describes only the vp parameter. >How-To-Repeat: man 9 VOP_LOCK >Fix: Not investigated >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 5 18:33:22 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA27331 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 18:33:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA27324 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 18:33:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA73441; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 18:32:26 -0800 (PST) To: Sue Blake cc: conrads@neosoft.com, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Kernel configuration docs a neglected area? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 06 Jan 1999 08:46:18 +1100." <19990106084618.64906@welearn.com.au> Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 18:32:26 -0800 Message-ID: <73437.915589946@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Does this seem worthwhile or not? Not really, unfortunately, because LINT is merely a kernel configuration file which grew into a (poor) documentation mechanism. Rather than further warping it out of shape, especially given that config(8) and all its associated files will eventually go away, we should be working on a section of the Handbook which covers this in more detail. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 5 19:00:38 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA00281 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 19:00:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (welearn.com.au [139.130.44.81] (may be forged)) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA00268 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 19:00:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sue@phoenix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from sue@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.0) id NAA25468; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 13:59:47 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <19990106135942.43420@welearn.com.au> Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 13:59:42 +1100 From: Sue Blake To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: conrads@neosoft.com, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Kernel configuration docs a neglected area? References: <19990106084618.64906@welearn.com.au> <73437.915589946@zippy.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88e In-Reply-To: <73437.915589946@zippy.cdrom.com>; from Jordan K. Hubbard on Tue, Jan 05, 1999 at 06:32:26PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Jan 05, 1999 at 06:32:26PM -0800, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > Does this seem worthwhile or not? > > Not really, unfortunately, because LINT is merely a kernel > configuration file which grew into a (poor) documentation mechanism. > > Rather than further warping it out of shape, especially given that > config(8) and all its associated files will eventually go away, Huh? > we should be working on a section of the Handbook which covers this > in more detail. How come, if it's going away? -- Regards, -*Sue*- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 5 19:03:33 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA00719 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 19:03:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA00709 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 19:03:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA73707; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 19:02:38 -0800 (PST) To: Sue Blake cc: conrads@neosoft.com, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Kernel configuration docs a neglected area? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 06 Jan 1999 13:59:42 +1100." <19990106135942.43420@welearn.com.au> Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 19:02:38 -0800 Message-ID: <73704.915591758@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > we should be working on a section of the Handbook which covers this > > in more detail. > > How come, if it's going away? It should cover kernel configuration in more detail, not LINT. Just because config(8) is going away by no means suggests that the problem itself has gone away! :) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 5 20:00:07 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA06670 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 20:00:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA06662 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 20:00:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id UAA19301; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 20:00:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from istari.home.net (cc158233-a.catv1.md.home.com [24.3.25.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA06587 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 19:59:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sjr@home.net) Received: (from sjr@localhost) by istari.home.net (8.9.1/8.8.6) id WAA19716; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 22:59:24 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199901060359.WAA19716@istari.home.net> Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 22:59:24 -0500 (EST) From: sjr@home.net Reply-To: sjr@home.net To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/9340: Addition for Y2K page Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 9340 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Addition for Y2K page >Confidential: no >Severity: serious >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Jan 5 20:00:00 PST 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Stephen J. Roznowski >Release: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: >Environment: >Description: The following Y2K related bug was submitted. This patch updates the Y2K page with this information. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: --- www/en/y2kbug.sgml.orig Tue Dec 15 07:40:57 1998 +++ www/en/y2kbug.sgml Tue Jan 5 22:54:41 1999 @@ -101,6 +101,13 @@ href="http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=4930">gnu/4930 and gnu/8321

groff tmac macros have hardcoded 19 for generating some dates.


+
+      bin/9323
+      In its obsolescent form, touch doesn't treat the two digit year
+	year specification correctly. Years in the range 00-68 are treated
+	as 1900-1968 instead of 2000-2068.
+
     
     
     Problematic applications
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Hi Nick and you all,
my name's Mary aka NightShade and I wanna start to translate freebsd 
docs in Italian... 
If it's possible, please reply me
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On 05-Jan-99 Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:
>> Incidentally, if you've checked out my AWE tutorial and see no problems
>> with it, feel free to include a pointer to it in LINT, if you like:
> 
> I'd prefer for us to bring all such docs into a central place and then
> come up with a terser comment markup standard for LINT if that's how
> we choose to go.  Otherwise, you get various links timing out and
> comments in LINT which go stale and require manual intervention.

Dot's cool, mon.  :-)

Anyway, if you'd like to use it some other way, be my guest.

--
Conrad Sabatier 

The church is near but the road is icy; the bar is far away but I will
walk carefully.
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On Tue, Dec 29, 1998 at 04:17:51PM -0000, Duncan Barclay wrote:
> 
> On 29-Dec-98 Tom Hukins wrote:
> > 
> > I didn't like the idea of building a packing list by hand, so I
> > figured out a way of creating packing lists semi-automatically.
> > There is currently no mention of any such technique in the handbook,
> > so I suggest this (or something better) is included:
> > 
> > Creating a packing list manually can be a very tedious task. It is
> > often best to create the PLIST file using the "find" program.
> 
> Extracted from my mega-make files (http://www.ragnet.demon.co.uk/remake/),
> same idea just does a little more:

[extract snipped]

I had a quick look at your Web site. Your system seems comprehensive
and powerful, but I couldn't figure out how to use this quickly and
easily. If the Handbook describes how to build a PLIST, it should do
so in a way which doesn't require lots of fiddling around.

Of course, if you can describe how to use your mega-make files
easily, that's great, but I'm not sure I'd be able to!

So, if nobody objects, I'll send-pr something along the lines of my
original suggestion for inclusion in the Handbook.

Regards,
Tom

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Hey guys

can someone take a look at http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/FAQ24.html#24 ?

The font appears way too large...

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>Number:         9351
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       2.2.8-RELEASE/ERRATA.TXT should include getpwent.c semantics
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       serious
>Priority:       high
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          doc-bug
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Wed Jan  6 11:50:01 PST 1999
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Dan Howard
>Release:        FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE i386
>Organization:
EnterAct, LLC
>Environment:

2.2.8-RELEASE

>Description:

There was a buffer overflow patch made to src/lib/libc/gen/getpwent.c
immediately prior release of 2.2.8.  A side-effect of this patch was to modify
the semantics of getpwnam() such that a string that was longer than the
maximum allowed for a username would still match if the first part of the
string properly matched a user name.  This behaviour was corrected by eivind
at 1.35.2.3 of the CVS repository.

As this change to getpwnam() across releases adversely impacted the behaviour
of mail aliases on our system, and was somewhat tricky to diagnose, it would
seem helpful to include it in the 2.2.8-RELEASE errata.
>How-To-Repeat:
>Fix:
>Release-Note:
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Synopsis: Addition for Y2K page

State-Changed-From-To: open->closed
State-Changed-By: nik
State-Changed-When: Wed Jan 6 12:01:05 PST 1999
State-Changed-Why: 
Suggested fix applied to r1.12 of www/en/y2kbug.sgml. Thanks
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Synopsis: Addition for Y2Kbug page

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Changes made in r1.13 of www/en/y2kbug.sgml. Thanks

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>Number:         9352
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       wrong macro names in groff_[ms|mm|mmse].7
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       medium
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          doc-bug
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Wed Jan  6 14:10:00 PST 1999
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Kanenda
>Release:        FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE i386
>Organization:
FreeBSD jp-man project
>Environment:

/src/contrib/groff/tmac/groff_ms.man?rev=1.1.1.1

/src/contrib/groff/mm/groff_mm.man?rev=1.1.1.1
.\" $Id: groff_mm.man,v 1.27 1995/04/24 05:37:46 jh Exp $

/src/contrib/groff/mm/groff_mmse.man?rev=1.1.1.1
.\" $Id: groff_mmse.man,v 1.27 1995/04/24 05:37:46 jh Exp $

>Description:

 groff_[ms|mm|mmse].man include their macro names as
m@TMAC_S_PREFIX@s, m@TMAC_M_PREFIX@m, or m@TMAC_M_PREFIX@mse,
which are supposed to be replaced with ms, mm, or mmse
respectively at installation.
 But these get changed to mms, mmm, or mmmmse, because
@TMAC_S_PREFIX@ and @TMAC_M_PREFIX@ are replaced with s and m.

>How-To-Repeat:

man 7 groff_ms
man 7 groff_mm
man 7 groff_mmse

>Fix:

These will be fixed by changing line 45 and 46
in /src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/Makefile.cfg :

   tmac_s_prefix=s
   tmac_m_prefix=m

to:

   tmac_s_prefix=
   tmac_m_prefix=

, or erasing appending [s|m] to @TMAC_[S|M]_PREFIX@
in each man page.  I don't know which is to be done.
Anyway, m@TMAC_M_PREFIX@mm at line 496 in groff_mm.man must be a typo.

Also see the same problem report:
  http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=5693

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The following reply was made to PR docs/9351; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: dannyman 
To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG
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Subject: Re: docs/9351: 2.2.8-RELEASE/ERRATA.TXT should include getpwent.c semantics
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 16:14:18 -0600

 I reckon I should "submit" a "fix" ... HTH
 
 On Wed, Jan 06, 1999 at 07:42:28PM -0000, dannyman@sasquatch.dannyland.org wrote:
 >Fix:
 
 Append the following, or something like it, to the errata file:
 
 o getpwnam(3) semantics are incorrect in some cases.
 
 Fix: If passed a string longer than the maximum allowed for a user name,
      getpwnam will incorrectly return an entry for a user that matches the
      initial characters in the string up to the maximum length allowed for a
      user name.  To correct this behaviour, libc needs to be patched and
      recompiled.  The appropriate patch can be obtained at
      http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/lib/libc/gen/getpwent.c.diff?r1=1.35.2.2&r2=1.35.2.3
 
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Synopsis: 2.2.8-RELEASE/ERRATA.TXT should include getpwent.c semantics

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On 06-Jan-99 Tom Hukins wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 29, 1998 at 04:17:51PM -0000, Duncan Barclay wrote:
>> 
>> On 29-Dec-98 Tom Hukins wrote:
>> > 
>> > I didn't like the idea of building a packing list by hand, so I
>> > figured out a way of creating packing lists semi-automatically.
>> > There is currently no mention of any such technique in the handbook,
>> > so I suggest this (or something better) is included:
>> > 
>> > Creating a packing list manually can be a very tedious task. It is
>> > often best to create the PLIST file using the "find" program.
>> 
>> Extracted from my mega-make files (http://www.ragnet.demon.co.uk/remake/),
>> same idea just does a little more:
> 
> [extract snipped]
> 
> I had a quick look at your Web site. Your system seems comprehensive
> and powerful, but I couldn't figure out how to use this quickly and
> easily. If the Handbook describes how to build a PLIST, it should do
> so in a way which doesn't require lots of fiddling around.

Yeah, my make stuff is a bit more than just build a PLIST.
 
> Of course, if you can describe how to use your mega-make files
> easily, that's great, but I'm not sure I'd be able to!

Neither do I any more! If you want to use it for something drop me a
line and I will write some documentation and clean it up a little.

> So, if nobody objects, I'll send-pr something along the lines of my
> original suggestion for inclusion in the Handbook.

Sure no problem, I would like to suggest that the two pass find that I
do is helpful. It seperates collecting files and directories so that the
@dirrm stuff works a bit better.

Duncan

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La vocation premi�re de F2UG est de mettre � disposition
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Nous diposons d'un site WWW (http://www.FreeBSD-fr.org) ainsi que
d'une liste de diffusion (freebsd-fr@freebsd.francenet.fr).

Tout comme FreeBSD, ce projet existe uniquement gr�ce au travail 
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>Number:         9372
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       aio_read(2) man page points to wrong include file
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          doc-bug
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>Arrival-Date:   Thu Jan  7 10:30:01 PST 1999
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>Originator:     Daniel C. Sobral
>Release:        FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386
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	Current, I guess...

>Description:

	aio_read(2) man page points to  file, which do not exist.
There are two aio.h files, sys/aio.h and posix4/aio.h. It would seem to
me that the file we ought to include right now is sys/aio.h, though it
beats the heck out of me why it is inside sys.

>How-To-Repeat:

	man aio_read
	#include ? :-)

>Fix:
	
	Apply the following patch:


--- lib/libc/sys/aio_read.2.orig	Fri Jan  8 03:17:08 1999
+++ lib/libc/sys/aio_read.2	Fri Jan  8 03:18:03 1999
@@ -31,7 +31,7 @@
 .Nm aio_read
 .Nd asynchronus read from a file (REALTIME)
 .Sh SYNOPSIS
-.Fd #include 
+.Fd #include 
 .Ft int
 .Fn aio_read "struct aiocb *iocb"
 .Sh DESCRIPTION
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>Number:         9375
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       Information on how to build PLIST automatically
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>Description:

As per the recent thread on the freebsd-doc mailing list (Suggestion
for "Making a port yourself" in the Handbook), here is a patch to
the Handbook which contains information on building a packing list
automatically.

This information should be in the handbook because ports may contain
many files, making manual packing list creation unnecessarily
time-consuming.

I'm not entirely sure whether I've put this in the right section of
the document, but if anyone objects it can easily be moved.

>How-To-Repeat:

	

>Fix:

--- porting.sgml.orig	Sat Jan  2 12:37:34 1999
+++ porting.sgml	Thu Jan  7 21:00:30 1999
@@ -154,6 +154,36 @@
 	    sorted alphabetically.  It will make verifying the changes 
 	    when you upgrade the port much easier.
 
+	  Creating a packing list manually can be a very tedious
+	    task.  It is often best to generate the packing list
+	    automatically.
+
+      
+	Creating the packing list automatically
+	  
First, make sure your port is almost complete, with
+	    only the PLIST file missing.  Create an empty
+	    PLIST with the `touch files/PLIST'
+	    command.
+
+	  
Next, create a new set of directories which your port
+	    can be installed in with the `mtree -U -f
+	    /etc/mtree/BSD.local.dist -d -e -p /var/tmp/MY-PORT'
+	    command.  Store the directory structure in a new file
+	    with `(cd /var/tmp/MY-PORT && find * -type d) >
+	    OLD-DIRS'.
+
+	  
If your port honours the PREFIX variable (which it
+	    should), you can then type `make install
+	    PREFIX=/var/tmp/MY-PORT'.  Once the port has been
+	    installed successfully, create the packing list with
+	    `(cd /var/tmp/MY-PORT && find * \! -type d) >
+	    pkg/PLIST'.
+
+	  
You also need to add any newly created directories to
+	    the packing list.  To do this, type `(cd
+	    /var/tmp/MY-PORT && find * -type d) | comm -13 OLD-DIRS
+	    - | sed -e 's#^#@dirrm #' >> pkg/PLIST'.
+
       
 	Creating the checksum file
 
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>Number:         9376
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       getsubopt and getservbyport manpage changes
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>Description:
The getsubopt manpage says that the file  needs to be included,
when it is really  that needs inclusion.
The getservbyport -really- should have a note saying that the 
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>How-To-Repeat:
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man getservbyport
>Fix:
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The FreeBSD User Guide (that name may change..)
http://www.aei.ca/~malartre/freebsd/

"This is a kind of Q&A/tutorial on the basics of the FreeBSD Operating
System (OS), a UNIX variant. It's made for people who never used a UNIX
OS."

I think it's now in a state where I can send this to
newbies@freebsd.org.
I would like people to read it, and complain about what's not good and
what's not enough good.

Change:
1) I have reviewed, rewrited, improved my english (it's not perfect
but...), made a tons of change, etc..
2) No more white on a black background.
3) More Sections
4) It's now all in GTML, a tool to manage that big thing.
5) It's bigger :-)

I would like
1) Corrections (diff or whatever)
2) English corrections (diff or whatever)
3) Suggestions
4) Is it good?

Thank You
-- 
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I guess you can close this out completely, since I'm not sure about
everything that has changed since I last sent the man page in.

thanks

rv

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In a previous message, Bill Fumerola writes:

> Synopsis: boot.config.8 man page
> 
> State-Changed-From-To: open-feedback
> State-Changed-By: billf
> State-Changed-When: Mon Dec 28 19:17:45 PST 1998
> State-Changed-Why: 
> Would you like to update your submitted man page to reflect jkh's comments?
> Would you like me to close this completely?
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Synopsis: boot.config.8 man page

State-Changed-From-To: feedback->closed
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Closed by request of originator.

The state of the man page in question is too dynamic right now for
the originator to update it.

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A couple of things I guess.  First, when I try to choose my CD-ROM as my
installation media (at the end of the Novice Installation), it tells me that
there is not a CD present.  I booted to a FreeBSD bootable CD to start the
installation, so my CD-ROM is functional.  Further, I have installed RedHat
on this exact hardware config and it worked, so I know that my hardware is
OK.  I have a Plextor 12x SCSI CD-ROM on an Adaptec 2940 SCSI controller,
both of which are supported by FreeBSD.

That leads me to the specific problem that you asked me to report on your
website:
"If you are having hardware trouble, or FreeBSD refuses to boot at all, read
the Hardware Guide provided on the boot floppy for a list of possible
solutions"  When I try to read the Hardware Guide, it tells me that it isn't
available.

I also tried to create a boot floppy using fdimage and boot.flp and I still
can't read the Hardware Guide.  I'm not sure it would help if I could read
it, but you asked for us to let you know if we got confused:
"The FreeBSD boot floppy contains all the on-line documentation you should
need to be able to navigate through an installation and if it does not then
we would like to know what you found most confusing."

Thanks.

Samuel f. Stover



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Probably because you're using Microsoft.

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>Number:         9417
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       typo in doc/FAQ/x.sgml
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          doc-bug
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Sat Jan  9 21:10:00 PST 1999
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Ying-Chieh Liao
>Release:        FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386
>Organization:
NCTU CSIE
>Environment:

FreeBSD Terry.Dorm10.NCTU.edu.tw 3.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT #0: Sun Jan  3
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i386

>Description:

typo in doc/FAQ/x.sgml
"responsibiilty" must be "responsibility"

>How-To-Repeat:

more doc/FAQ/x.sgml
/responsibiilty

>Fix:
	
change "responsibiilty" to "responsibility"
>Release-Note:
>Audit-Trail:
>Unformatted:

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