From owner-freebsd-doc Sat May 8 14:42:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (baerenklau.de.freebsd.org [195.185.195.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9999C1509A for ; Sat, 8 May 1999 14:42:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from w@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id XAA23781; Sat, 8 May 1999 23:42:22 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from w@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from w@localhost) by paula.panke.de.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.8.8) id XAA02305; Sat, 8 May 1999 23:13:33 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from w) Message-ID: <19990508231333.45191@panke.de.freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 23:13:33 +0200 From: Wolfram Schneider To: jesusr@ncsa.es, chris@calldei.com Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Can't build handbook References: <19990508141141.A20366@holly.dyndns.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: ; from Jesus Rodriguez on Sat, May 08, 1999 at 09:25:39PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 1999-05-08 21:25:39 +0200, Jesus Rodriguez wrote: > > On 08-May-99 Chris Costello wrote: > > I just recently CVSupped the handbook tree again, made some > > modifications to a file, and attempted to build it. 'make' > > resulted in the following error (separated by blank lines for > > convenience): > > > > /usr/local/bin/jade -V html-manifest -ioutput.html -c > > /usr/doc/share/sgml/catalog -c > > /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog -c > > /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/3.0/catalog -c > > /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog -d /usr/doc/share/sgml/freebsd.dsl -t > > sgml handbook.sgml > > Hello... > > Use make DOC_PREFIX=/where_your_doc_tree_is > > If it's in /usr/cvs/doc use: > > make DOC_PREFIX=/usr/cvs/doc That is a bug in doc/share/mk/docproj.docbook.mk docproj.docbook.mk should not assume that the root of doc is /usr/doc. -- Wolfram Schneider http://wolfram.schneider.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat May 8 16: 2:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail1.bezeqint.net (mail1.bezeqint.net [192.115.106.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87C0914D71 for ; Sat, 8 May 1999 16:02:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Important_for@YourLife.com) Received: from yourlife.com ([212.25.115.5]) by mail1.bezeqint.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.03.02.17.58.p5) with SMTP id <0FBF00MDNK99I4@mail1.bezeqint.net> for doc@freebsd.org; Sun, 9 May 1999 01:46:23 +0300 (IDT) Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 01:46:23 +0300 (IDT) Date-warning: Date header was inserted by mail1.bezeqint.net From: Important_for@YourLife.com Subject: Why Jews Don't Beleive in ... To: Important_for@YourLife.com Message-id: <0FBF00M5UR97I4@mail1.bezeqint.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear Friend, Did you ever wonder why the Jewish people don't believe in the New Testament? How come for 2000 years the Jewish people have been dedicated to Judaism to the point of allowing themselves to be killed rather than convert to Christianity? In their 20 page scholarly work entitled "Why don't the Jewish people don't recognize the New Testament?", theological scholars Eliyahoo Silver and Isaac Even Zahav demonstrate that Christianity is based on mistaken premises, misperceptions, and misunderstanding of what God is really all about. These conclusions and insights may seem strange to many since they go against everything many people have learned all their lives. But, many have seen that in fact Truth is stranger than fiction, Truth has no friends, but we must accept the Truth; not my truth, not your truth....but God's Truth. Here are some excerpts from Eliyahoo Silver's and Isaac Even Zahav's scholarly work entitled "Why don't the Jewish people recognize the New Testament?" regarding the Oneness of God, Jesus as Messiah, Virgin Birth, and the Covenent God made with Noah The Oneness of God "The Jewish God is one, as it is written; "Hear Israel, Y-H-W-H is our God, Y-H-W-H is one." Deut. 6:4. So according to the Bible there is one God, and that One God is One. One means One; not two, not three, not three in one, not two in one, not three divisions of one, but One whole One Alone. ........ The ancient idol worshipping cultures believed that there are many different gods, but God made it very clear in the Bible that He is the One and only God. Christianity believes that God is divided into three parts; the father, the son and the holy ghost. They try to make one out of these three, because God clearly says in the Bible that He is One. However, by definition God is an ever present, all powerful, omniscient, intangible, and unlimited Being, therefore, by dividing God into 3 parts, by definition you thus limit Him. This cannot be so. Deut. 4:39: "Know therefore this day and consider it in your heart that the Lord He is God in heaven above, and upon the earth beneath; there is none else." Deut. 32:39: "See now that I, even I, am He, and there is no god with me." Isaiah 43:10: "I am He, before Me no god was created, neither shall there be after Me." Isaiah 44:6:"Thus saith the Y-H-W-H, the king of Israel, and his redeemer, the Lord of hosts; I am the first and I am the last, and beside me there is no god." Isaiah 45:18:"I am the Y-H-W-H and there is none else." Please notice that nowhere in the here is spoken about a trinity. The concept of trinity is nowhere to be found in the Old Testament or the New Testament. ... There is One God, and that One God is One. One means One. That is not two, not three, not three in one, not two in One, but One." Jesus as the Messiah "Who and what is the Messiah? Let us see according to the holy Hebrew scriptures what the Messiah is supposed to do as required and defined by God himself through His prophets. In Isaiah 2:4 it is written that in the messianic days the swords will be beaten into plowshares and the spears into pruninghooks. Isaiah 60:18: "Violence shall no more be heard in thy land, wasting nor destruction within your borders, but you shall call your walls Salvation and your gates Praise." Zechariah 14:11: "And there shall be no more destruction but Jerusalem will be safely inhabited. Amos 9:14-15: "And I will bring again the captivity of my people of Israel and they shall build the waste cities and inhabit them; and I will plant them upon their land, and they shall no more be pulled out of their land which I have given them, says Y-H-W-H your God." ... ... And then a Jew stands up and claims that he is the Messiah, the savior that is announced by the prophets. But he did not do what he was supposed to do, set the Jews free from their oppressors, the Romans, and establish an era of peace and tranquillity for the Jews and all mankind. Instead he gets killed and all that there is left of him is a collection of writings, called the New Testament. But he claimed that he would establish this all in THAT generation: See Mark 13:24-30 and Matthew 16:27-28; "Verily I say unto you; there be some standing here that shall not taste of death till they see the son of man coming in his kingdom." ... Unnecessary to say that he failed totally. ... .... By the Living Word of God Himself it is clear that the Messiah must redeem Israel and bring universal peace. However, this is not done by Jesus. On the contrary, after he was executed as a common criminal the temple got destroyed, and the Jewish people were exiled, and since then violent war after war has swept over the earth. In order to get around this problem, the christian church invented the second coming. However, nowhere in the Hebrew scriptures is it written that the messiah would come once, get killed, and come again in a second coming. This is a pure rationalization of Jesus failure to function in any way as a Messiah. ..." Virgin Birth "The angel tells Joseph (Matthew 1:22-23) that this is done in order to fulfill the word of the prophet; "Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel. ...This prophecy is quoted as being from Isaiah 7:14. There it says; "Behold a virgin shall conceive and bare a son and shall call his name Emmanuel." But for the Jewish reader that knows Hebrew, this also raises problems. The Hebrew word in Isaiah 7:14 that the King James translation translates as virgin is the Hebrew word "Almah". But, in Hebrew, the word "Almah" means young woman, NOT virgin. The Hebrew word for virgin is "Betulah". Therefore the word virgin in the king James translation of Isaiah 7:14 is a mistranslation. ... Nowhere in the Old Testament is a prophecy that the messiah will be born unto a virgin. In fact, virgins nowhere give birth in the Old Testament. This concept is only to be found in pagan mythology. By the way, if this was realy a virgin birth, than the requirement to be Messiah of being a direct paternal descandant of king David was not fullfilled.... To the Jews, what does this say about the reliability of the New Testament? " The Noachide and Israelite Covenants In conclusion Eliyahu Silver and Isaac Ewen Zahav point out that Gentiles must follow and live according to the Covenant that God made with Noah which requires descendants of Noah to follow seven catagories of laws known as the Seven Noachide Laws. Thus Noachidism is the proper religion of Gentiles. The seven catagories of Noachide commandments are: 1) Establish courts of law. 2) Do not blaspheme. 3) Do not worship idols. 4) Do not murder. 5) Do not commit adultery. 6) Do not steal. 7) Do not eat the limb of a live animal" Please learn these by memory and know these this day for this is what God commands you as descandants of Noah. For the Jewish people is is pointed out "The Jewish people have a different mission in life; "And you shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, a Holy nation." Exodus 19:6. For this reason the Jewish people have to live according 613 commandments commanded to them in their Holy book called the Torah and the Gentiles must be commited never to lead Jews astray from liveing by the Holy Torah. For more information on Noacidism how to join the Noachide movement if you are a Gentile, or, on Judaism and how to join a Jewish group if you are a Jew, we recomend you visit these oher great web sites. For Gentiles who want to join/form Noachide groups in your area http://www.fastlane.net/~bneinoah/world.html To learn the Seven Noachide Laws and their ramificiations in todays society gopher://gopher.chabad.org/11/outlook/7laws For Jews to learn the Torah so they can live a good Blessed Jewish life http://www.torah.org/programs/outsideinisrael.html For Jews to learn Torah on Mount Zion, Israel http://www.mznet.org/ For Jews worldwide to learn Torah or to experience a Sabbath in a warm, loving home http://www.chabad.org/ To read the full 20 page essay "Why the Jews don't believe in the New Testament" http://www.noachidetorah.home-page.org/ Current policy, music and insights of the re-established House of David http://www.thehouseofdavid.home-page.org/ To read the full copy of Eliyahu Silver's and Isaac Ewen Zahav's 20 page booklet titled: "Why don't the Jewish people recognize the new testament?" refer to our web sites at http://noachidetorah.mainpage.net/ or http://www.noachidetorah.allhere.com/ or search the keyword "CovenentDavid" in at least three search engines. Please feel free to download and share with your friends as we are sure this work will be a collectors item one day. To get Merit with God, make sure to tell this truth to all your friends, neighbors and collegues who are Gentiles that they must live by the Noachide Covenent and all the Jewish people that they must live in accordance with the Torah. The best way to live life is to serve God... properly and in Truth. Spread the Truth to all and God will shower us with His Blessing!!! The only way to acheive peace on earth is to live by God's rules so that God will then bestow peace upon us. This is the only way there will be peace on earth. To contact the writer by mail write Eliyahoo Silver P.O.B. 1651, zip code 91000, Jerusalem, Israel, or write the publisher by mail write Eliyahoo Silver C/O M. Ariel Cohen POB 32097 Jerusalem, Israel 91320. Thanks for subscribing to our mailing list of society and religion. We are sorry that it has been over two years for some who signed our mailing list and you may have forgotten about it but we hope you enjoy our message anyway. If you wish to be removed from future mailings, please simply and politely reply with the subject "Remove" to nocensores@altavista.net or nocensores@iname.com or Covenentdavid@iname.com or houseofdavid@joinme.com and you will happily be removed from any and all future mailings at no cost to you. Feel free to have your friends add themselves to our mailing lists by sending in their emails as many are already doing. "And it shall come to pass in the end of days, that the mountain of Y-H-W-H's house shall be established as the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills, and all nations shall flow unto it. And many peoples shall go and say ' Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of Y-H-W-H, To the House of the God of Jacob, and He will teach us of His ways, and we will walk in His paths', for out of Zion shall come forth the Torah and the Word of Y-H-W-H from Jerusalem. And He shall judge between the nations, and shall decide for many peoples, and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks, nation shall not lift up sword againt nation, neither shall they learn war anymore" Isaiah 2:2-4 Blessings from Mount Zion, Jerusalem, Israel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat May 8 16:36:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (baerenklau.de.freebsd.org [195.185.195.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B656414CFE for ; Sat, 8 May 1999 16:36:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from w@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id BAA25516; Sun, 9 May 1999 01:36:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from w@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from w@localhost) by paula.panke.de.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.8.8) id BAA08913; Sun, 9 May 1999 01:25:53 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from w) Message-ID: <19990509012553.36426@panke.de.freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 01:25:53 +0200 From: Wolfram Schneider To: jonathan michaels , nclayton@lehman.com Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: doc//books/*, doc//articles/*, and docs.freebsd.org References: <19990504163533.S14492@lehman.com> <19990505112135.B3157@caamora.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <19990505112135.B3157@caamora.com.au>; from jonathan michaels on Wed, May 05, 1999 at 11:21:35AM +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 1999-05-05 11:21:35 +1000, jonathan michaels wrote: > when i use lynx, the freebsd site is a vertitable nightmare to > navigate, maybe a checkpoint could be inserted and teh user > asked if a text version is required and a text version be > supplied if requsted. Could you please a little bit more precisely whats wrong with FreeBSD web pages? PS: all FreeBSD pages are basically text only pages. So don't aks for a 'text version' link ;-) -- Wolfram Schneider http://wolfram.schneider.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat May 8 16:36:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (baerenklau.de.freebsd.org [195.185.195.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFE2415356; Sat, 8 May 1999 16:36:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from w@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id BAA25517; Sun, 9 May 1999 01:36:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from w@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from w@localhost) by paula.panke.de.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.8.8) id BAA07294; Sun, 9 May 1999 01:15:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from w) Message-ID: <19990509011527.18124@panke.de.freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 01:15:27 +0200 From: Wolfram Schneider To: nclayton@lehman.com, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: cvs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: doc//books/*, doc//articles/*, and docs.freebsd.org References: <19990504163533.S14492@lehman.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <19990504163533.S14492@lehman.com>; from nclayton@lehman.com on Tue, May 04, 1999 at 04:35:33PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [cc: cvs masters] On 1999-05-04 16:35:33 +0100, nclayton@lehman.com wrote: > FDP folks, > > [ I'm sort of thinking out loud at the moment ] > > The doc/ directory structure is currently organised as > > doc//handbook > doc//FAQ > doc//tutorials/* > > where is the appropriate language code (ignore doc/FAQ/* for the > time being, it's migrating soon-ish). > > In addition, there's a doc/share/mk and a doc/share/sgml for language > independent bits and pieces. > > I'm wondering whether it's worthwhile migrating the existing > content to a doc//books/ and doc//articles/ directory > structure instead? This is a nightmare for the webmaster and the cvs masters. CVS does not handle directory moves well. > Specifically, I'm not happy about the FAQ and the Handbook being a > directory level higher than the other content. It's not 'clean', and > it means that any automated tools to process the documentation > have to consider either the FAQ and Handbook as special cases, or the > tutorials as a special case instead. This is Makefile problem, not a directory structure. > This will get worse when I (and anyone else that wants to help) start > splitting the Handbook up into separate, smaller, books[1]. Where does > the new content go? > > I think this then allows for things like > > doc//books/printing/* > doc//books/security/* > doc//books/FDP-primer/* > ... > doc//articles/FAQ/* > doc//articles/fonts/* > doc//articles/ip-aliasing/* > ... > > and so on. Hm, you are renaming 'handbook' to 'books' and 'tutorials' to 'articles'???? > This sort of thing could be done as part of the DocBook conversion -- > instead of doing it in-place, the results of the conversion are placed in > the new directories, in the same way that doc/handbook/ was migrated to > doc/en/handbook/. > > This wouldn't happen overnight, and I'm not advocating changing the URLs > on the website. > > Yet. > > This brings me on to my second point. docs.freebsd.org. > > At the moment the FDP doc/ tree and the www/ tree sit a little uneasily > together. Building the website requires that the doc/ tree be available > as well, and in the process all sorts of symlinks are created and little > hacks exist in several Makefiles to get the build to work properly. > > It's all fairly fragile, and I'd be happier if it was a little more > separate. I doubt that the symlinks are a real problem. `make world' also create a lot of symlinks. If you think replacing symlinks with directories will fix a bug, you should contact Bruce so he can improve make world ;-) Building the website from scratch is not so hard: $ cvs co www doc && cd www && make && cd en && make all install > I think that in an ideal world we'd also have a doc//www/ tree > which would contain *just* those pieces of infrastructure necessary to > support a docs.freebsd.org which had a front-end that listed the available > documentation, linked to it, and let the user search it. In the fullness > of time (once the technology's mature) it might support XML in some way > as well. > > For an idea of what I'm thinking of, take a look at http://docs.sun.com/. > Take their "Hardware" and "Software" headings and replace them with > "Books" and "Articles", and it's pretty close to the end product I have > in mind. > > Of course, we don't have to do either one of these. But to my mind, > docs.freebsd.org becomes that bit easier to create (and automate) if > the directory structure's a bit more rigid. > > Of course, this does bring up some issues. Two immediately spring to > mind. > > The first is mirroring -- we already have many mirror sites who mirror > www.freebsd.org around the world. Would they be prepared to mirror > docs.freebsd.org as well? The only way to find out is to ask, which is > part of the reason for this message. Our documentation is tiny, compared with docs.sun.com I see now reason why we should move the handbook from www.freebsd.org to docs.freebsd.org > The second is URLs changing -- in an ideal world, once you've published a > URL it stays the same forever, otherwise you get link rot. But you can > get around this by remapping URLs on the webserver, so that > > www.freebsd.org/handbook/foo.html > > is automatically mapped to > > docs.freebsd.org/books/handbook/foo.html > > instead. I'm still fixing the broken links from the linuxdoc to docbook conversions, the list of redirects doubled in size ;-( -- Wolfram Schneider http://wolfram.schneider.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat May 8 16:40: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FF46152A5 for ; Sat, 8 May 1999 16:40:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id QAA46627; Sat, 8 May 1999 16:40:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (baerenklau.de.freebsd.org [195.185.195.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 979BC1541B for ; Sat, 8 May 1999 16:36:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id BAA25520 for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; Sun, 9 May 1999 01:36:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from wosch@localhost) by paula.panke.de.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.8.8) id BAA09083; Sun, 9 May 1999 01:33:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wosch) Message-Id: <199905082333.BAA09083@paula.panke.de.freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 01:33:00 +0200 (CEST) From: Wolfram Schneider Reply-To: wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/11595: The gencommercial.pl script ignores the last entry Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11595 >Category: docs >Synopsis: The gencommercial.pl script ignores the last entry >Confidential: yes >Severity: serious >Priority: high >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat May 8 16:40:00 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Wolfram Schneider >Release: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: >Environment: The www/en/commercial/gencommercial.pl script always ignores the last entry ;-(( Workaround: add a dummy entry at the bottom of every *.raw file in www/en/commercial >Description: >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat May 8 18:23:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.sysnet.net.tw (mail.sysnet.net.tw [210.67.33.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5283B151CA for ; Sat, 8 May 1999 18:23:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kevlo@hello.com.tw) Received: from hello.com.tw (p210-67-40-103.ts.sysnet.net.tw [210.67.40.103]) by mail.sysnet.net.tw (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA16576; Sun, 9 May 1999 09:23:45 +0800 (CST) Message-ID: <3734E359.7934ED50@hello.com.tw> Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 09:22:34 +0800 From: Kevin Lo X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: chris@calldei.com Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FAQ team. References: <373485E0.1FACCF2F@hello.com.tw> <19990508142021.C20366@holly.dyndns.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=big5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Chris Costello wrote: > On Sat, May 8, 1999, Kevin Lo wrote: > > Hi, folks, > > > > Because the FAQ doesn't maintain for the long time. As Jordan suggests, > > he wants to have *multiple* maintainers, a "FAQ team". > > > > I am a first willing member. Would anyone want to join this team? > > I wouldn't mind, but I'm already making myself busy with the > handbook and the 'custom-packages' project that I came up with > (discussing, not working -- yet), but I have an unusually large > amount of time on my hands, so I'll contribute wherever I can. That'd be great! Thanks for joining the team. > Chris Costello > A fault tolerant system must report the faults even as it tolerates them. -Kevin. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat May 8 18:24: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.sysnet.net.tw (mail.sysnet.net.tw [210.67.33.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 869271563E for ; Sat, 8 May 1999 18:23:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kevlo@hello.com.tw) Received: from hello.com.tw (p210-67-40-103.ts.sysnet.net.tw [210.67.40.103]) by mail.sysnet.net.tw (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA16580; Sun, 9 May 1999 09:23:50 +0800 (CST) Message-ID: <3734E35F.FCC25766@hello.com.tw> Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 09:22:40 +0800 From: Kevin Lo X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FAQ team. References: <22946.926190939@zippy.cdrom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=big5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote: > > I am a first willing member. Would anyone want to join this team? > > This is always a great way to start things out - with at least one > hand in the air. :) > > Once you have basically collected together your initial starting team, > please let me know and I'll add you to the faq-maintainers@freebsd.org > alias so that you can starting discussing your diffs to the FAQ and > get the process underway! Thanks, Jordan. The following people send me emails, thay say they'll contribute wherever they can :) o Chris Costello o Chris Silva o Mike Holling > - Jordan -Kevin. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat May 8 18:49: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail-gw2adm.rcsntx.swbell.net (mail-gw2.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17E6814D5F for ; Sat, 8 May 1999 18:48:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@holly.dyndns.org) Received: from holly.dyndns.org (ppp-207-193-10-165.hstntx.swbell.net [207.193.10.165]) by mail-gw2adm.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA04792; Sat, 8 May 1999 20:48:45 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA43165; Sat, 8 May 1999 20:49:56 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from chris) Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 20:49:52 -0500 From: Chris Costello To: Kevin Lo Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FAQ team. Message-ID: <19990508204951.C471@holly.dyndns.org> Reply-To: chris@calldei.com References: <22946.926190939@zippy.cdrom.com> <3734E35F.FCC25766@hello.com.tw> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.1i In-Reply-To: <3734E35F.FCC25766@hello.com.tw>; from Kevin Lo on Sun, May 09, 1999 at 09:22:40AM +0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, May 8, 1999, Kevin Lo wrote: > "Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote: > > > > I am a first willing member. Would anyone want to join this team? > > > > This is always a great way to start things out - with at least one > > hand in the air. :) > > > > Once you have basically collected together your initial starting team, > > please let me know and I'll add you to the faq-maintainers@freebsd.org > > alias so that you can starting discussing your diffs to the FAQ and > > get the process underway! > > Thanks, Jordan. The following people send me emails, thay say > they'll contribute wherever they can :) > > o Chris Costello That really should be chris@calldei.com, and I really should make Sendmail or Mutt tell you that. > > o Chris Silva > > o Mike Holling > > > - Jordan > > -Kevin. > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message -- Chris Costello RAM DISK is not an installation procedure! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat May 8 19:10:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E8C61568B for ; Sat, 8 May 1999 19:10:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id TAA56868; Sat, 8 May 1999 19:10:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from sleipnir.watson.org (SLEIPNIR.RES.CMU.EDU [128.2.91.229]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E81514E0B for ; Sat, 8 May 1999 19:00:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robert@sleipnir.watson.org) Received: (from robert@localhost) by sleipnir.watson.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id WAA08914; Sat, 8 May 1999 22:01:03 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from robert) Message-Id: <199905090201.WAA08914@sleipnir.watson.org> Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 22:01:03 -0400 (EDT) From: robert@fledge.watson.org Reply-To: robert+freebsd@fledge.watson.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/11596: namei(9) says inode, not vnode Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11596 >Category: docs >Synopsis: namei(9) says inode, not vnode >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat May 8 19:10:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Robert Watson >Release: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: >Environment: FreeBSD-CURRENT, man page for namei >Description: LOCKLEAF Lock inode on return. This is a full lock of the vnode; you'll have to use VOP_UNLOCK(9) to release the lock (or use vput(9) to release the lock and do a vrele(9), all in one). Not all file systems have inodes, but they all seem to use namei. >How-To-Repeat: man namei >Fix: s/inode/vnode >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat May 8 20:35:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ms2.eranet.net (ms2.eranet.net [203.95.230.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4F81156C8 for ; Sat, 8 May 1999 20:24:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kevlo@hello.com.tw) Received: from hello.com.tw (n024.n203-95-234.eranet.net [203.95.234.24]) by ms2.eranet.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA04386; Sun, 9 May 1999 10:01:14 +0800 (CST) Message-ID: <3734EC23.F631829E@hello.com.tw> Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 10:00:03 +0800 From: Kevin Lo X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: chris@calldei.com Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FAQ team. References: <22946.926190939@zippy.cdrom.com> <3734E35F.FCC25766@hello.com.tw> <19990508204951.C471@holly.dyndns.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=big5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Chris Costello wrote: > > Thanks, Jordan. The following people send me emails, thay say > > they'll contribute wherever they can :) > > > > o Chris Costello > > That really should be chris@calldei.com, and I really should > make Sendmail or Mutt tell you that. Oops! Sorry. I didn't notice the field 'REPLY-TO' in the mail header. -Kevin. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat May 8 21:39:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (quackerjack.cc.vt.edu [198.82.160.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CAFF1575A; Sat, 8 May 1999 21:39:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jobaldwi@vt.edu) Received: from sable.cc.vt.edu (sable.cc.vt.edu [128.173.16.30]) by quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA02045; Sun, 9 May 1999 00:39:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from john.baldwin.cx (jobaldwi.campus.vt.edu [198.82.67.63]) by sable.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA05087; Sun, 9 May 1999 00:39:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <373485E0.1FACCF2F@hello.com.tw> Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 00:39:09 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: Kevin Lo , nik@freebsd.org Subject: RE: FAQ team. Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 08-May-99 Kevin Lo wrote: > Hi, folks, > > Because the FAQ doesn't maintain for the long time. As Jordan suggests, > he wants to have *multiple* maintainers, a "FAQ team". > > I am a first willing member. Would anyone want to join this team? I am a second. I need more work to do. :) (Yeah right) Are we going to migrate it to DocBook first? (Nik - has that been started yet?) > Best regards, > Kevin. --- John Baldwin -- http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/ PGP Key: http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat May 8 21:41:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from relay05.netaddress.usa.net (relay05.netaddress.usa.net [204.68.24.185]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E68511575A for ; Sat, 8 May 1999 21:41:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesus.monroy@usa.net) Received: (qmail 5196 invoked from network); 9 May 1999 04:41:18 -0000 Received: from www0g.netaddress.usa.net (204.68.24.36) by outbound.netaddress.usa.net with SMTP; 9 May 1999 04:41:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 7989 invoked by uid 60001); 9 May 1999 04:41:17 -0000 Message-ID: <19990509044117.7988.qmail@www0g.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.24.36 by www0g via web-mailer(M3.0.0.118) on Sun May 9 04:41:17 GMT 1999 Date: 8 May 99 21:41:17 PDT From: Jesus Monroy To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: help available Cc: nik@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (M3.0.0.118) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org A couple of weeks ago I was going through sections of the documentation tree. I saw a project to have a descriptions tree for all 'bin' and 'sbin' directories. I am currently working on a project to delete utilities we don't need for our projects from these directories. If help is needed in this section, I willing to help as I'm going to have to read what all the utilities are in order to do a proper removal. I willing to = submit work in whatever format is needed with whatever tools are required. If my assistance would be helpful, please email = me directly at thepinkpages@email.com. = Thanks Jessem. --- I am not a bot. ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=3D= 1 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun May 9 6:50:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14F2514F29 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 06:50:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id GAA96098; Sun, 9 May 1999 06:50:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from kaa.kfunigraz.ac.at (KAA16.kfunigraz.ac.at [143.50.16.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1715B14F5C for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 06:43:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dada@balu.kfunigraz.ac.at) Received: from balu.kfunigraz.ac.at (balu [143.50.16.16]) by kaa.kfunigraz.ac.at (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA05985 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 15:43:04 +0200 (MDT) Received: from localhost.kfunigraz.ac.at (IDENT:NaWYpFR1amE8i3WUHEvNX180LDX9tWYL@BONLINEA11.kfunigraz.ac.at [143.50.36.11]) by balu.kfunigraz.ac.at (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA23937 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 15:43:41 +0200 (MDT) Received: (from dada@localhost) by localhost.kfunigraz.ac.at (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA01254; Sun, 9 May 1999 15:42:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from dada) Message-Id: <199905091342.PAA01254@localhost.kfunigraz.ac.at> Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 15:42:03 +0200 (CEST) From: dada@sbox.tu-graz.ac.at Reply-To: dada@sbox.tu-graz.ac.at To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/11607: RLIMIT_MEMLOCK not implemented Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11607 >Category: docs >Synopsis: RLIMIT_MEMLOCK not implemented >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun May 9 06:50:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Martin Kammerhofer >Release: FreeBSD 2.2.8-STABLE i386 >Organization: Graz University of Technology >Environment: >Description: The per process limit on locked memory is not implemented. (The shared system wide limit works though). Until this will be eventually fixed manpages getrlimit(2) and mlock(2) should note this in their BUGS section! Also mlock/munlock are (currently) only available to the superuser and return EPERM if called by a mere mortal. This behaviour should be _documented_ in mlock(2). >How-To-Repeat: 1. Call mlock() from non-root process => fails with EPERM. 2. Set RLIMIT_MEMLOCK to a small value. Mlock much more => works. >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun May 9 13: 0: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7C8E14F76 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 13:00:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id NAA35154; Sun, 9 May 1999 13:00:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from sleipnir.watson.org (SLEIPNIR.RES.CMU.EDU [128.2.91.229]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCA9914D31 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 12:56:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robert@sleipnir.watson.org) Received: (from robert@localhost) by sleipnir.watson.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id PAA03277; Sun, 9 May 1999 15:57:16 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from robert) Message-Id: <199905091957.PAA03277@sleipnir.watson.org> Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 15:57:16 -0400 (EDT) From: robert@fledge.watson.org Reply-To: robert+freebsd@fledge.watson.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org, robert@fledge.watson.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/11615: Handbook linux documentation is outdated and needs fixing for 3.x Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11615 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Handbook: linux emulation documentation obsoleted >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun May 9 13:00:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Robert Watson >Release: web site >Organization: >Environment: www.freebsd.org/handbook/linuxemu.html >Description: The post 2.2.2 documentation of the linux emulation doesn't reflect 3.x-* and 4.0-CURRENT changes. >How-To-Repeat: Read the page. >Fix: 1) linux_enable=yes is a valid way to set this up, but it is now preferred to use sysinstall to enable flags in rc.conf. 2) The verification steps discuss using modstat -- kldstat is the module management program under 3.x+, and replacement output should be put there to match this: % kldstat Id Refs Address Size Name 1 4 0xc0100000 18a990 kernel 2 1 0xc028b000 32cc splash_bmp.ko 3 1 0xc028f000 5aa0 vesa.ko 4 1 0xc0abe000 11000 linux.ko 3) In the library install section, you might want to suggest symlinking /compat to /usr/compat since it can get pretty large, and we default install with a fairly small root partition. Might also want to give a pointer to the staroffice install page at: http://www.freebsdrocks.com/show.php3?ThisArticleID=5122&replies=0&start=1&return=25&search_category=8&search_criteria=&search_field= It may require newer threading code, but I'm not sure what threading code was included with which versions. I use star office under 4.x, and I think it should work fine under 3.x-stable, but haven't tried it yet. Might also want to include a link to the linux threading emulation page: http://lt.tar.com >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun May 9 14:10: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5225815AD5 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 14:10:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id OAA38280; Sun, 9 May 1999 14:10:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 14:10:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905092110.OAA38280@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: From: Chris Costello Subject: Re: docs/11615: Handbook linux documentation is outdated and needs fixing for 3.x Reply-To: Chris Costello Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/11615; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Chris Costello To: robert+freebsd@fledge.watson.org Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG, robert@fledge.watson.org Subject: Re: docs/11615: Handbook linux documentation is outdated and needs fixing for 3.x Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 16:04:52 -0500 On Sun, May 9, 1999, robert@fledge.watson.org wrote: > > >Number: 11615 > >Category: docs > >Synopsis: Handbook: linux emulation documentation obsoleted I'm working on this already. -- Chris Costello Customer: A primitive life form at the bottom of the food chain. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun May 9 22:38:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc1.bc.home.com (ha1.rdc1.bc.wave.home.com [24.2.10.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CA9514D0B for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 22:38:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bigthug@mypad.com) Received: from mail.rct1.bc.wave.home.com ([24.113.36.82]) by mail.rdc1.bc.home.com (InterMail v4.00.03 201-229-104) with SMTP id <19990510053848.MLNQ24551.mail.rdc1.bc.home.com@mail.rct1.bc.wave.home.com> for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 22:38:48 -0700 Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 22:39:50 -0700 From: bigthug X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.19) S/N 9FA473A9 Reply-To: bigthug X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <11944.990509@mypad.com> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello Freebsd-doc, I am very intrested in trying out freebsd but as i am cash straped I would like to create my own install cd (as i have a burner I would have thought that this would be easy) but i am unable to get a list of files that would have to be included on a cd for installing It would be greatly helpful if a list could be added to either the web site or flpsite to help those of us who like to do things our self..... thanks Best regards, bigthug mailto:bigthug@mypad.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon May 10 2:46:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from firewall1.lehman.com (firewall1.Lehman.COM [192.147.65.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CB0114DEA; Mon, 10 May 1999 02:46:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nclayton@lehman.com) Received: from relay.messaging-svcs2.lehman.com by firewall1.lehman.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) id FAA10486; Mon, 10 May 1999 05:46:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lonmailhost.lehman.com by relay.messaging-svcs2.lehman.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) id FAA17726; Mon, 10 May 1999 05:46:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lonmailhost.lehman.com (SMI-8.6/Lehman Bros. V1.5) id KAA16662; Mon, 10 May 1999 10:46:05 +0100 Message-ID: <19990510104605.D14492@lehman.com> Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 10:46:05 +0100 From: nclayton@lehman.com To: Wolfram Schneider , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: cvs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: doc//books/*, doc//articles/*, and docs.freebsd.org References: <19990504163533.S14492@lehman.com> <19990509011527.18124@panke.de.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <19990509011527.18124@panke.de.freebsd.org>; from Wolfram Schneider on Sun, May 09, 1999 at 01:15:27AM +0200 Organization: Lehman Brothers Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, May 09, 1999 at 01:15:27AM +0200, Wolfram Schneider wrote: > On 1999-05-04 16:35:33 +0100, nclayton@lehman.com wrote: > > I'm wondering whether it's worthwhile migrating the existing > > content to a doc//books/ and doc//articles/ directory > > structure instead? > > This is a nightmare for the webmaster and the cvs masters. > CVS does not handle directory moves well. Migrating was the wrong word. We currently have the following docs (on the English side) doc/FAQ doc/en/handbook doc/en/tutorials/* Of these, doc/FAQ needs converting to DocBook, as do almost all of doc/en/tutorials. I don't think these conversions should be done "in place" as it where. When I converted the Handbook from LinuxDoc to DocBook the converted files were placed in doc/en/handbook, instead of sitting on a branch of doc/handbook. I'd like to do the same thing with the DTD migration for the FAQ and the majority of the tutorials. This entails no more CVS bloat than will be incurred by the DTD migration anyway. Being more precise LinuxDoc (current) DocBook (new) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ doc/FAQ -> doc/en/articles/FAQ doc/en/tutorials/ddwg -> doc/en/articles/writing-device-drivers doc/en/tutorials/devel -> doc/en/articles/programming-tools doc/en/tutorials/diskformat -> doc/en/articles/formatting-media doc/en/tutorials/disklessx -> doc/en/articles/diskless-X * doc/en/tutorials/docproj-primer -> doc/en/books/FDP-primer doc/en/tutorials/fonts -> doc/en/articles/fonts doc/en/tutorials/mh -> doc/en/articles/mh doc/en/tutorials/multios -> doc/en/articles/multios doc/en/tutorials/newuser -> doc/en/articles/newuser doc/en/tutorials/ppp -> doc/en/books/ppp * = Repository copy required, because this is already in DocBook format Note: As you can see, I'm in favour of longer names to be more explicit, in general. The *vast* majority of people are going to click on these as URLs, so won't care how long they are. Those of us that are actually maintaining them have TAB-completion on our shell, so it's no big deal. The distinction between a "book" and an "article" is roughly "If it has chapters, it's a book, otherwise it's an article". More precisely, if the top level DocBook element is "book" then it's a book. If the top level element is "article" then it's an article. PPP in the above list is a special case, as it'll probably become part of a larger handbook under doc/en/books. Why not just stick with "tutorials"? "tutorials" is a slightly loaded term. "articles" is neutral as to the content. It also (conveniently) maps to a DocBook element name. The FAQ could well slot into "books" instead of "articles". I'll be talking to the newly formed FAQ team about this. In every one of those examples except for docproj-primer, the move will be done by % mkdir doc/en/articles/ % convert-linuxdoc-to-docbook doc/en/tutorials//.sgml \ > doc/en/articles//article.sgml The mechanically translated article.sgml is then fixed up by hand. So, for a period of time we will have two copies of the article in the repository, one in LinuxDoc, one in DocBook -- this is exactly how the Handbook conversion worked. The articles can be translated one by one, and the LinuxDoc versions will only be removed when the DocBook conversion is finished. > > Specifically, I'm not happy about the FAQ and the Handbook being a > > directory level higher than the other content. It's not 'clean', and > > it means that any automated tools to process the documentation > > have to consider either the FAQ and Handbook as special cases, or the > > tutorials as a special case instead. > > This is Makefile problem, not a directory structure. No. make(1) is not the only tool that will be traversing this tree. It'd probably help if I describe the end-goal I'm working towards, rather than outlining the individual steps to get there. I want a docs.freebsd.org web site (or a subsite of www.freebsd.org, the domain name and URL organisation is not relevant) that maintains itself as automatically as possible. Adding new documentation and having it appear linked in on the web site should be a case of adding the new DocBook SGML files in to the right place on the tree, the HTML files can be generated automatically. This is going to require some scripts that can traverse the docs tree and build the HTML files. Experience tells me that these scripts should be as simple as possible. Sooner or later someone else is going to be maintaining them, and the less head scratching they have to do, the better. So I want these scripts to contain as few "special cases" as possible. I don't want the FAQ or the Handbook living in special directories where the code to handle them needs to be something like if($curdir == "FAQ" || $curdir == "handbook") { do_something(); else { do_something_else(); } scattered throughout. It's fragile, and it leads to a system where people say "But you can't make , because all these programs will break." > > This will get worse when I (and anyone else that wants to help) start > > splitting the Handbook up into separate, smaller, books[1]. Where does > > the new content go? > > > > I think this then allows for things like > > > > doc//books/printing/* > > doc//books/security/* > > doc//books/FDP-primer/* > > ... > > doc//articles/FAQ/* > > doc//articles/fonts/* > > doc//articles/ip-aliasing/* > > ... > > > > and so on. > > Hm, you are renaming 'handbook' to 'books' and 'tutorials' to 'articles'???? Yes. See above. The "Convert the Handbook from one large handbook to a collection of smaller 'handbooks'" idea has been discusses several times on -doc in the past couple of months, and I was under the impression that people thought it was a good idea. So we'll end up with two classes of documentation, books and articles. The Handbook *will not be* the only "book". Take a look at my FDP primer. It's not finished, and it's already far too large to be considered a tutorial, or an article. It's a book, and when it's finished it'll probably be 120-140 pages long. Under the current scheme, it really has to live in tutorials/. This is a misnomer, as it's not a tutorial. > > At the moment the FDP doc/ tree and the www/ tree sit a little uneasily > > together. Building the website requires that the doc/ tree be available > > as well, and in the process all sorts of symlinks are created and little > > hacks exist in several Makefiles to get the build to work properly. > > > > It's all fairly fragile, and I'd be happier if it was a little more > > separate. > > I doubt that the symlinks are a real problem. `make world' > also create a lot of symlinks. If you think replacing symlinks > with directories will fix a bug, you should contact Bruce so > he can improve make world ;-) > > Building the website from scratch is not so hard: > > $ cvs co www doc && cd www && make && cd en && make all install Right. But if I'm building the website, why do I need the doc/ repository? Because (currently) the FAQ, Handbook, and so on, are part of the main FreeBSD web site. I don't think they should be. They should certainly be available on the web (obviously, I'm not *that* stupid :-) ) but not as part of the main FreeBSD site. 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> > Of course, this does bring up some issues. Two immediately spring to > > mind. > > > > The first is mirroring -- we already have many mirror sites who mirror > > www.freebsd.org around the world. Would they be prepared to mirror > > docs.freebsd.org as well? The only way to find out is to ask, which is > > part of the reason for this message. > > Our documentation is tiny, compared with docs.sun.com > I see now reason why we should move the handbook from > www.freebsd.org to docs.freebsd.org Our documentation is currently small. FreeBSD's growing, the available documentation is going to grow. I'd rather put in place a scaleable infrastructure to support it now, while the disturbance is still relatively small. > > The second is URLs changing -- in an ideal world, once you've published a > > URL it stays the same forever, otherwise you get link rot. But you can > > get around this by remapping URLs on the webserver, so that > > > > www.freebsd.org/handbook/foo.html > > > > is automatically mapped to > > > > docs.freebsd.org/books/handbook/foo.html > > > > instead. > > I'm still fixing the broken links from the linuxdoc to docbook > conversions, the list of redirects doubled in size ;-( I know. Do you keep a list of referrers to URLs that we're redirecting? I'm happy to put together a standard e-mail to send to people who've linked to obsolete URLs advising them to update their links. N -- --+==[ Systems Administrator, Year 2000 Test Lab, Lehman Brothers, Inc. ]==+-- --+==[ 1 Broadgate, London, EC2M 7HA 0171-601-0011 x5514 ]==+-- --+==[ Year 2000 Testing: It's about time. . . ]==+-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon May 10 3:27: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from firewall1.lehman.com (firewall.Lehman.COM [192.147.65.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E4E915301 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 03:27:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nclayton@lehman.com) Received: from relay.messaging-svcs2.lehman.com by firewall1.lehman.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) id GAA18793; Mon, 10 May 1999 06:26:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lonmailhost.lehman.com by relay.messaging-svcs2.lehman.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) id GAA22500; Mon, 10 May 1999 06:13:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lonmailhost.lehman.com (SMI-8.6/Lehman Bros. V1.5) id LAA18840; Mon, 10 May 1999 11:13:07 +0100 Message-ID: <19990510111306.I14492@lehman.com> Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 11:13:06 +0100 From: nclayton@lehman.com To: Wolfram Schneider , jesusr@ncsa.es, chris@calldei.com Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Can't build handbook References: <19990508141141.A20366@holly.dyndns.org> <19990508231333.45191@panke.de.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <19990508231333.45191@panke.de.freebsd.org>; from Wolfram Schneider on Sat, May 08, 1999 at 11:13:33PM +0200 Organization: Lehman Brothers Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, May 08, 1999 at 11:13:33PM +0200, Wolfram Schneider wrote: > On 1999-05-08 21:25:39 +0200, Jesus Rodriguez wrote: > > On 08-May-99 Chris Costello wrote: > > Use make DOC_PREFIX=/where_your_doc_tree_is > > > > If it's in /usr/cvs/doc use: > > > > make DOC_PREFIX=/usr/cvs/doc > > That is a bug in doc/share/mk/docproj.docbook.mk > docproj.docbook.mk should not assume that the root of doc > is /usr/doc. What should it assume it to be? I thought /usr/doc was the traditional place to put a checked out copy of the doc/ repository. If people would prefer, I can change it to something like .BEGIN: .if !defined(DOC_PREFIX) @${ECHO} "You must set the DOC_PREFIX variable to point to" @${ECHO} "the top of your checked out copy of the doc/" @${ECHO} "repository. For example:" @${ECHO} @${ECHO} " % make DOC_PREFIX=/usr/doc " .endif instead? However, I don't know how many people are currently using /usr/doc, and are therefore having no problems with the current setup. The above change would affect *everyone*. Alternatively, if anyone's got any ideas about how I can do away with DOC_PREFIX altogether then I'm all ears. The problem it solves is as follows; The doc/ tree contains doc/share/sgml/*, and doc//share/sgml/*. jade needs to be able to find these files when it's doing the conversion. Relative paths don't work across the entire doc/ tree. If you're in doc/en/handbook then DOC_PREFIX=../.. works quite nicely. However, if you're in doc/en/tutorials/docproj-primer then you need to use DOC_PREFIX=../../.. instead. So the simplest solution is to set it to a hardcoded path, hence the DOC_PREFIX?=/usr/doc in docproj.docbook.mk, because I figured that most people work on a checked out copy of the tree under /usr/doc. Just to tie in another thread. As and when we move to doc//books/* doc//articles/* then the DOC_PREFIX hack will disappear, because each piece of documentation will be at the same level in the tree. Essentially, DOC_PREFIX will always be "../../..". This is another good reason for doing the change, and a good example of why I intensely dislike the current "special cases" for the FAQ and Handbook. N -- --+==[ Systems Administrator, Year 2000 Test Lab, Lehman Brothers, Inc. ]==+-- --+==[ 1 Broadgate, London, EC2M 7HA 0171-601-0011 x5514 ]==+-- --+==[ Year 2000 Testing: It's about time. . . ]==+-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon May 10 5:31:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blues.ghis.net (slwag2p16.ozemail.com.au [203.108.157.64]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C217915100; Mon, 10 May 1999 05:31:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@blues.ghis.net) Received: (from jim@localhost) by blues.ghis.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA45217; Mon, 10 May 1999 22:31:09 +1000 (EST) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 22:31:08 +1000 From: Jim Mock To: "Jesus Monroy, Jr." Cc: advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, webmaster@freebsdmall.com Subject: Re: Something doesn't jive Message-ID: <19990510223108.E45066@blues.ghis.net> Reply-To: jim@blues.ghis.net References: <3735e6fb.559027550@news.pacbell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <3735e6fb.559027550@news.pacbell.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 09 May 1999 at 20:01:08 +0000, Jesus Monroy, Jr. wrote: > Please understand I'm not bitching, I'm just trying to understand > what is going on. If this issued has been raised before, please > point me to an appropriate thread of archive; I'll be happy to read. > > Anyway, recent threads have suggested that FreeBSD is not a > "desktop" or "single-user". The suggestions have been that FreeBSD > is better suited for high-performance workstations, > computation-slaves and servers. > > However, and here is my question: > > How come most of the FAQs are about single-user issues? > > The nearest I can tell most of the "single-user" questions answered > are about development. That is, it seems people are using FreeBSD as > the primary development platform. At the same time, dual-boot > issues point in other directions. > > Perhaps, one of the Zines could run a poll for us some we can see > what is up? I'm not against putting something like this in the FreeBSD 'zine, however, I doubt it'll make it into the upcoming issue. Perhaps the July issue. I've been working on a poll script that I planned on using for various stuff, so that won't be a problem. However.. I've noticed alot of people don't bother to vote (if that's what you'd call it) so I doubt the results would be very accurate. Not to mention the number of visitors compared to the actual amount of users. Personally I don't think the poll will produce any usable results. Comments? -- - Jim Mock - jim@blues.ghis.net - systems administrator - ghis.NET - - work: http://www.ghis.net/ - personal: http://www.ghis.net/~jim/ - - FreeBSD 'zine: http://www.freebsdzine.org/ - jim@freebsdzine.org - - FreeBSD: http://advocacy.freebsd.org/ - jim@advocacy.FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon May 10 5:52:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from zaphod.livecam.com (zaphod.livecam.com [206.83.162.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9DAF1515C; Mon, 10 May 1999 05:52:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jessem@livecam.com) Received: from jessem.dnull.com (adsl-216-100-231-13.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [216.100.231.13]) by zaphod.livecam.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA24742; Mon, 10 May 1999 05:51:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990510055957.007b5100@livecam.com> X-Sender: jessem@livecam.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 05:59:57 -0700 To: jim@blues.ghis.net, "Jesus Monroy, Jr." From: "Jesse Monroy, Jr." Subject: Re: Something doesn't jive Cc: advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, webmaster@freebsdmall.com In-Reply-To: <19990510223108.E45066@blues.ghis.net> References: <3735e6fb.559027550@news.pacbell.net> <3735e6fb.559027550@news.pacbell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 10:31 PM 5/10/99 +1000, Jim Mock wrote: >On Sun, 09 May 1999 at 20:01:08 +0000, Jesus Monroy, Jr. wrote: >> Please understand I'm not bitching, I'm just trying to understand >> what is going on. If this issued has been raised before, please >> point me to an appropriate thread of archive; I'll be happy to read. >> >> Anyway, recent threads have suggested that FreeBSD is not a >> "desktop" or "single-user". The suggestions have been that FreeBSD >> is better suited for high-performance workstations, >> computation-slaves and servers. >> >> However, and here is my question: >> >> How come most of the FAQs are about single-user issues? >> >> The nearest I can tell most of the "single-user" questions answered >> are about development. That is, it seems people are using FreeBSD as >> the primary development platform. At the same time, dual-boot >> issues point in other directions. >> >> Perhaps, one of the Zines could run a poll for us some we can see >> what is up? > >I'm not against putting something like this in the FreeBSD 'zine, >however, I doubt it'll make it into the upcoming issue. Perhaps the >July issue. I've been working on a poll script that I planned on >using for various stuff, so that won't be a problem. > >However.. I've noticed alot of people don't bother to vote (if that's >what you'd call it) so I doubt the results would be very accurate. >Not to mention the number of visitors compared to the actual amount of >users. Personally I don't think the poll will produce any usable >results. Comments? > Yes, of course. First, I know I can get people to vote, but at the same time it's part manipulation on my part; well our part. I'll be screaming bloody murder, so to speak, but don't let that influence you too much. Don't defend me too much, but at the same time don't start an email campaign to my ISP. :-) Please remember this, as I won't repeat it again. Next the questions: How do you use your FreeBSD? Server (web,db,ftp,wais,etc.) Personal-Dedicated Personal-Win95-shared Personal-Linux-shared Personal-many-shared Add_your_favorite_here Do you want more FAQs about? How-to Guides Hackers-Notes Hand-books Add_your_favorite_here And, of course, give a few days heads up when the polls are ready. I hope this is clear? Any questions? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon May 10 6: 7:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ccssu.crimea.ua (mordor.ccssu.crimea.ua [62.244.13.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E126A15130 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 06:07:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ccssu.crimea.ua (8.9.0/8.9.0) with UUCP id PAA01901 for doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 10 May 1999 15:57:21 +0400 Received: (from phantom@localhost) by scorpion.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.5+ssl+keepalive) id PAA02080 for doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 10 May 1999 15:41:50 +0400 (MSD) From: Alexey Zelkin Message-Id: <199905101141.PAA02080@scorpion.crimea.ua> Subject: doscmd To: doc@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 15:41:50 +0400 (MSD) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello ! Maybe I am wrong but BSDi has contributed only "doscmd", not linux dosemu. :-) -- Index: chapter.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/local/CVSROOT/doc/en/handbook/contrib/chapter.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.34 diff -c -r1.34 chapter.sgml *** chapter.sgml 1999/05/06 11:34:07 1.34 --- chapter.sgml 1999/05/10 11:37:20 *************** *** 967,973 **** Berkeley Software Design, Inc. has contributed their DOS emulator code to the remaining BSD world, which is used in the ! dosemu command. --- 967,973 ---- Berkeley Software Design, Inc. has contributed their DOS emulator code to the remaining BSD world, which is used in the ! doscmd command. -- Sincerely Yours, | phantom@crimea.edu (primary) Alexey Zelkin | phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua (home) | ICQ: #6196584, FIDO: 2:460/12.26 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon May 10 6:34:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from upsn13.u-psud.fr (upsn13.u-psud.fr [193.55.10.113]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4841215130 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 06:34:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from carrel@lei.u-psud.fr) Received: from upsn13.u-psud.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by upsn13.u-psud.fr (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id PAA16169 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 15:35:53 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from lei336.lei.u-psud.fr (lei336.lei.u-psud.fr [194.57.51.98]) by upsn13.u-psud.fr (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id PAA16156 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 15:35:47 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by lei336.lei.u-psud.fr (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id PAA02106; Mon, 10 May 1999 15:34:28 +0200 Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 15:34:28 +0200 Message-Id: <199905101334.PAA02106@lei336.lei.u-psud.fr> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-URL: http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/FAQ.html X-Mailer: Lynx, Version 2.7.2 X-Personal_name: hegemon From: hegemon@relou.net Subject: http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/FAQ.html Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hello i begin to translate the FreeBSD FAQ in french im new in this world (i used linux and solaris ) so i wanted to know more on FreeBSD it is a little hard (but what isn`t hard ?) so i want to know if u support me in my work or not thanx a lot bye hegemon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon May 10 6:47:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from cis.ohio-state.edu (mail.cis.ohio-state.edu [164.107.115.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29A2314CBB for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 06:47:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cmcurtin@cis.ohio-state.edu) Received: from gold.cis.ohio-state.edu (cmcurtin@gold.cis.ohio-state.edu [164.107.112.16]) by cis.ohio-state.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA06403; Mon, 10 May 1999 09:47:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from cmcurtin@localhost) by gold.cis.ohio-state.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA25999; Mon, 10 May 1999 09:47:13 -0400 (EDT) To: Kevin Lo Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FAQ team. References: <373485E0.1FACCF2F@hello.com.tw> X-Face: L"IcL.b%SDN]0Kql2b`e.}+i05V9fi\yX#H1+Xl)3!+n/3?5`%-SA-HDgPk9uTk<3dv^J5DCgal)-E{`zN#*o6F|y>r)\< Date: 10 May 1999 09:47:12 -0400 In-Reply-To: Kevin Lo's message of "Sun, 09 May 1999 02:43:44 +0800" Message-ID: Lines: 3 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/XEmacs 20.4 - "Emerald" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I. -- Matt Curtin cmcurtin@interhack.net http://www.interhack.net/people/cmcurtin/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon May 10 7:10:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from logatome.micronet.fr (logatome-2.francenet.fr [193.149.96.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BB35152E5 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 07:10:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Sebastien.Gioria@FranceNet.fr) Received: from gioria.dialup.FranceNet.fr (eku28.francenet.fr [193.149.97.60]) by logatome.micronet.fr (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA06577; Mon, 10 May 1999 16:08:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: by gioria.dialup.FranceNet.fr (Postfix, from userid 42) id 754541FFF6; Mon, 10 May 1999 16:07:40 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <19990510160740.B5543@FranceNet.fr> Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 16:07:40 +0200 From: Sebastien GIORIA To: hegemon@relou.net, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: freebsd-fr@freebsd.francenet.fr, freebsd-france@freebsd.francenet.fr Subject: Re: http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/FAQ.html Reply-To: Sebastien GIORIA References: <199905101334.PAA02106@lei336.lei.u-psud.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <199905101334.PAA02106@lei336.lei.u-psud.fr>; from hegemon@relou.net on Mon, May 10, 1999 at 03:34:28PM +0200 Operating-System: Definitely FreeBSD Function: Unix and Security Administrator Organization: FranceNet Postal-Address: 28 Rue Desaix , 75015 PARIS, FRANCE Phone: +33 1 43 92 12 34 Fax: +33 1 43 92 14 45 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD-2.2.8-RELEASE (PAO enabled) on Dell Inspiron 3200 X-URL: http://www.FranceNet.fr -- http://www.freebsd-fr.org Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, May 10, 1999 at 03:34:28PM +0200, the keyboard of hegemon@relou.net write: > hello i begin to translate the FreeBSD FAQ in french Contact me, or see http://www.freebsd-fr.org, the FAQ is already translated but not commited to main FreeBSD source tree. S. -- --> Our POP server was kidnapped by a weasel. <-- Sebastien Gioria - FranceNet gioria@francenet.fr Unix && Security Administrator security@francenet.fr Tout FreeBSD en Francais =========> http://www.freebsd-fr.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon May 10 11: 0:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53ED515DBA for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 11:00:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id LAA27494 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 10 May 1999 11:00:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 11:00:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905101800.LAA27494@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: peter set sender to owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: FreeBSD doc list Subject: Current unassigned doc problem reports Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Current FreeBSD problem reports The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. Bugs can be in one of several states: o - open A problem report has been submitted, no sanity checking performed. a - analyzed The report has been examined by a team member and evaluated. f - feedback The problem has been solved, and the originator has been given a patch or a fix has been committed. The PR remains in this state pending a response from the originator. s - suspended The problem is not being worked on. This is a prime candidate for somebody who is looking for a project to do. If the problem cannot be solved at all, it will be closed, rather than suspended. c - closed A problem report is closed when any changes have been integrated, documented, and tested. Critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [1999/02/14] docs/10088 doc Documentation search results o [1999/04/26] docs/11348 doc Correction to previous Y2K information 2 problems total. Serious problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [1999/01/22] docs/9618 doc many typos in groff_mm(7) a [1999/02/17] docs/10135 doc Change to Documention Regarding Upgrades o [1999/04/17] docs/11182 doc [Patch] doc/en/handbook/kernelconfig/chap o [1999/05/02] docs/11438 doc clueless how to discover my NE2000 clone 4 problems total. Non-critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- s [1998/01/15] docs/5487 doc Adding documentation for scsi(8) usage wi o [1998/04/14] docs/6295 doc Reference to nonexistent file in Device D o [1998/04/15] docs/6307 doc sgmlfmt not `make -jN' ready o [1998/05/18] docs/6681 doc docu. addition a [1998/07/31] docs/7456 doc dialog(3) man page outdated a [1998/08/31] docs/7791 doc ipf(1) and ipfstat(1) should have been ip o [1998/09/13] docs/7914 doc no elf(5) manpage o [1998/10/25] docs/8445 doc Update of "Installing Mathematica on Free o [1998/11/02] docs/8547 doc Various updates to authors.sgml, printing o [1998/11/10] docs/8640 doc proposed change of 4.5 o [1998/11/19] docs/8765 doc some suggested text for describing passwo o [1999/01/06] docs/9352 doc wrong macro names in groff_[ms|mm|mmse].7 o [1999/01/12] docs/9455 doc cvsup and ftp server in Czech Republic o [1999/01/29] docs/9773 doc Handbook 4.7.1.4. "Testing the port" is i o [1999/01/31] docs/9837 doc fix to doc/handbook/porting.sgml o [1999/02/10] docs/10017 doc Added a site and bug fix o [1999/02/11] docs/10038 doc Added a site and bug fix (part two) o [1999/02/14] docs/10084 doc new FreeBSD user group in Yogyakarta City o [1999/02/14] docs/10085 doc NIS Setup Tutorial o [1999/02/14] docs/10098 doc Lack of overall guide for NIS setup o [1999/02/15] docs/10108 doc Addition to fstab.5 o [1999/02/18] docs/10146 doc Release Notes and LINT for 3.1 include ha o [1999/02/21] docs/10180 doc Another mirror site not listed... o [1999/02/21] docs/10182 doc http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?p o [1999/02/25] docs/10240 doc We need a script which check if our web m o [1999/02/25] docs/10256 doc handbook on cvsup... o [1999/03/01] docs/10331 doc pccardd(8) claims FreeBSD does not suppor o [1999/03/03] docs/10378 doc option -s missing in lptcontrol.8 o [1999/03/04] docs/10388 doc Obsolete information in Handbook o [1999/03/05] docs/10403 doc CDE is no longer sold by Xi Graphics. o [1999/03/05] docs/10408 doc [quasi-patch] Grammar nitpicks in Handboo o [1999/03/07] docs/10472 doc Mailing list for discussion of Xircom dri o [1999/03/07] docs/10474 doc A command line in a man document is incom o [1999/03/08] docs/10488 doc Error in entry for 02/27 in calendar.hist o [1999/03/08] docs/10500 doc spell error o [1999/03/09] docs/10512 doc ENOBUFS returnable from writev(2) but not o [1999/03/16] docs/10624 doc typos/innacuracies in wfd(4) man page o [1999/03/18] docs/10659 doc Many syscall man pages have an IMPLEMENTA o [1999/03/18] docs/10660 doc User Group not listed o [1999/03/18] docs/10664 doc Notes on 2.2.8 -> 3.1 migration o [1999/03/21] docs/10704 doc strange sentence in doc/handbook/ctm.sgml o [1999/03/23] docs/10762 doc geocrawler.com mailing list archives o [1999/03/27] docs/10819 doc Documentation add o [1999/03/28] docs/10840 doc [PATCH] Add pcic double-loading bug fix t o [1999/03/28] docs/10841 doc typos in man page screen.4 (c -> n) o [1999/03/28] docs/10847 doc lpbb.4's PostScript output format is brok o [1999/03/29] docs/10850 doc submitting a documentation change for sed o [1999/03/30] docs/10877 doc manpage for objformat incorrectly mention o [1999/04/07] docs/10997 doc Problem with query-pr-summary.cgi o [1999/04/07] docs/11011 doc missing man page for arc4 related functio o [1999/04/07] docs/11015 doc handbook/mirrors-ftp.html missing NZ serv o [1999/04/08] docs/11028 doc new text for FAQ to explain branches o [1999/04/11] docs/11087 doc Portland FreeBSD users group o [1999/04/11] docs/11089 doc freebsd user group, sydney o [1999/04/11] docs/11090 doc User's group in Melbourne Australia o [1999/04/15] docs/11150 doc [Patch] doc/en/handbook/security/chapters o [1999/04/15] docs/11153 doc [Patch] en/handbook/ports/chapter.sgml is o [1999/04/17] docs/11184 doc [Patch] doc/en/handbook/eresources/chapte o [1999/04/17] docs/11190 doc [Patch] doc/en/handbook/introduction/chap o [1999/04/19] docs/11215 doc [Patch] doc/en/handbook/disks/chapter.sgm o [1999/04/20] docs/11233 doc Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/preface.sgml o [1999/04/20] docs/11234 doc Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/install.sgml o [1999/04/21] docs/11258 doc suggestion to refine npx.4 o [1999/05/05] docs/11506 doc some typos in dhclient.conf.5 o [1999/05/07] docs/11561 doc a typo in dhclient.conf.5 man-pages o [1999/05/08] docs/11582 doc bug in ip(4) manpage o [1999/05/08] docs/11589 doc Missing #includes in aio_read(2) o [1999/05/08] docs/11596 doc namei(9) says inode, not vnode o [1999/05/09] docs/11607 doc RLIMIT_MEMLOCK not implemented o [1999/05/09] docs/11615 doc Handbook: linux emulation documentation o 70 problems total. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon May 10 11:25:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz (mta.xtra.co.nz [203.96.92.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 464CE14E75; Mon, 10 May 1999 11:25:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from junkmale@pop3.xtra.co.nz) Received: from wocker ([210.55.152.128]) by mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz (InterMail v04.00.02.07 201-227-108) with SMTP id <19990510182740.HLXP7623210.mta2-rme@wocker>; Tue, 11 May 1999 06:27:40 +1200 From: "Dan Langille" Organization: The FreeBSD Diary To: Jim Mock Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 06:25:33 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Something doesn't jive Reply-To: junkmale@xtra.co.nz Cc: advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, webmaster@freebsdmall.com In-reply-to: <19990510223108.E45066@blues.ghis.net> References: <3735e6fb.559027550@news.pacbell.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) Message-Id: <19990510182740.HLXP7623210.mta2-rme@wocker> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 10 May 99, at 22:31, Jim Mock wrote: > However.. I've noticed alot of people don't bother to vote (if that's what > you'd call it) so I doubt the results would be very accurate. Not to > mention the number of visitors compared to the actual amount of users. > Personally I don't think the poll will produce any usable results. > Comments? Polls wherein the people have an option as to whether or not to participate are notoriously skewed and produce inaccurate results. Presumably this applies to polls on webpages but not to telephone polls. The former is optional (Oh!, there's a poll, I'll do it). The latter involves a slight degree of duress (Do you have time for this poll?) but, from what I've been told, produces much more accurate results. -- Dan Langille - DVL Software Limited The FreeBSD Diary - http://www.FreeBSDDiary.org/freebsd/ NZ FreeBSD User Group - http://www.nzfug.nz.freebsd.org/ The Racing System - http://www.racingsystem.com/racingsystem.htm To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon May 10 14:56:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0615D14EB8 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 14:56:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) id TAA28792; Mon, 10 May 1999 19:46:25 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 19:46:25 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: chris@calldei.com Cc: Jesus Rodriguez , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Can't build handbook Message-ID: <19990510194625.B41076@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19990508141141.A20366@holly.dyndns.org> <19990508143307.D20366@holly.dyndns.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990508143307.D20366@holly.dyndns.org>; from Chris Costello on Sat, May 08, 1999 at 02:33:07PM -0500 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, May 08, 1999 at 02:33:07PM -0500, Chris Costello wrote: > No, but that does make for another error: > > # make DOC_PREFIX=/usr/doc > ===> FAQ > sgmlfmt -f html -links /usr/doc/FAQ/FAQ.sgml > sgmlfmt -f latin1 -links /usr/doc/FAQ/FAQ.sgml > sgmlfmt -f ascii -links /usr/doc/FAQ/FAQ.sgml > FAQ.trf:7587: warning: can't find special character `:i' > FAQ.trf:7587: warning: can't find special character `:i' S'OK, that's expected, and part of the FAQ conversion process. It shouldn't stop the build from happening, and you will get a plain text version of the FAQ at the end of it. N -- There's some milk in the fridge about to go off. . . and there it goes. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon May 10 14:57:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ECD814C86; Mon, 10 May 1999 14:57:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) id TAA28597; Mon, 10 May 1999 19:44:54 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 19:44:53 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: John Baldwin Cc: Kevin Lo , nik@freebsd.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FAQ team. Message-ID: <19990510194453.A41076@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <373485E0.1FACCF2F@hello.com.tw> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: ; from John Baldwin on Sun, May 09, 1999 at 12:39:09AM -0400 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, May 09, 1999 at 12:39:09AM -0400, John Baldwin wrote: > On 08-May-99 Kevin Lo wrote: > > Hi, folks, > > > > Because the FAQ doesn't maintain for the long time. As Jordan suggests, > > he wants to have *multiple* maintainers, a "FAQ team". > > > > I am a first willing member. Would anyone want to join this team? > > I am a second. I need more work to do. :) (Yeah right) Are we going to > migrate it to DocBook first? (Nik - has that been started yet?) Not yet. I haven't looked seriously at DocBook 3.1 yet, which is what we'll do the FAQ in. 3.1 has a new qandaset element (and subelements) for marking up FAQs. If anyone wants to experiment with this, here's a very quick sample of how it might be used. Make sure you've got the docbook-310 port installed for this. Notice how one question can have several answers attached to it. This could be very useful for including multiple answers depending on the FreeBSD version in use; you could use the "os" attribute to differentiate between them.
FAQ This is a sample question This is the first para of answer one. This is the second para of answer one. This is the first para of the second answer to the first question.
N -- There's some milk in the fridge about to go off. . . and there it goes. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon May 10 15:13:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx.suffolk.lib.ny.us (mx.suffolk.lib.ny.us [199.173.91.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F4B814BDA for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 15:13:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mweissbe@suffolk.lib.ny.us) Received: from [199.173.92.232] (dialup232 [199.173.92.232]) by mx.suffolk.lib.ny.us (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA17815 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 18:06:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199905102206.SAA17815@mx.suffolk.lib.ny.us> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 18:14:35 -0400 Subject: From: "Mitchell Weissberg" To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon May 10 15:14:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx.suffolk.lib.ny.us (mx.suffolk.lib.ny.us [199.173.91.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AEBE14DDE for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 15:13:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mweissbe@suffolk.lib.ny.us) Received: from [199.173.92.232] (dialup232 [199.173.92.232]) by mx.suffolk.lib.ny.us (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA17835 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 18:07:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199905102207.SAA17835@mx.suffolk.lib.ny.us> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 18:14:48 -0400 Subject: From: "Mitchell Weissberg" To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon May 10 16: 1:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (quackerjack.cc.vt.edu [198.82.160.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B372215183 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 16:01:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jobaldwi@vt.edu) Received: from sable.cc.vt.edu (sable.cc.vt.edu [128.173.16.30]) by quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA01841; Mon, 10 May 1999 18:59:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from john.baldwin.cx (jobaldwi.campus.vt.edu [198.82.67.63]) by sable.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA17051; Mon, 10 May 1999 18:59:55 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <19990510194453.A41076@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 18:59:56 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: Nik Clayton Subject: Re: FAQ team. Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, Kevin Lo , John Baldwin Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 10-May-99 Nik Clayton wrote: > On Sun, May 09, 1999 at 12:39:09AM -0400, John Baldwin wrote: >> On 08-May-99 Kevin Lo wrote: >> > Hi, folks, >> > >> > Because the FAQ doesn't maintain for the long time. As Jordan suggests, >> > he wants to have *multiple* maintainers, a "FAQ team". >> > >> > I am a first willing member. Would anyone want to join this team? >> >> I am a second. I need more work to do. :) (Yeah right) Are we going to >> migrate it to DocBook first? (Nik - has that been started yet?) > > Not yet. I haven't looked seriously at DocBook 3.1 yet, which is what > we'll do the FAQ in. 3.1 has a new qandaset element (and subelements) > for marking up FAQs. Do we want to change /usr/doc/share/sgml/freebsd.dtd to use 3.1 and get rid of the FAQ* entries from it or would you rather move the FreeBSD specifics out into another file that freebsd.dtd and freebsd-faq.dtd (or freebsd-31.dtd or something) include? > If anyone wants to experiment with this, here's a very quick sample of > how it might be used. Make sure you've got the docbook-310 port > installed for this. Notice how one question can have several answers > attached to it. This could be very useful for including multiple answers > depending on the FreeBSD version in use; you could use the "os" attribute > to differentiate between them. Spiffy. Would we be better off doing it by hand or by using the linuxdoc-to-handbook script you referred to earlier? --- John Baldwin -- http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/ PGP Key: http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue May 11 0:51: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from stampede.cs.berkeley.edu (stampede.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.45.124]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ED1714C9A for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 00:51:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asami@cs.berkeley.edu) Received: from silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (sji-ca43-212.ix.netcom.com [209.111.209.212]) by stampede.cs.berkeley.edu (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA07909; Tue, 11 May 1999 00:51:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (8.9.2/8.6.9) id AAA28713; Tue, 11 May 1999 00:49:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 00:49:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905110749.AAA28713@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: silvia.hip.berkeley.edu: asami set sender to asami@cs.berkeley.edu using -f To: nclayton@lehman.com Cc: wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org, jesusr@ncsa.es, chris@calldei.com, doc@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <19990510111306.I14492@lehman.com> (nclayton@lehman.com) Subject: Re: Can't build handbook From: asami@FreeBSD.ORG (Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami) References: <19990508141141.A20366@holly.dyndns.org> <19990508231333.45191@panke.de.freebsd.org> <19990510111306.I14492@lehman.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org * From: nclayton@lehman.com * What should it assume it to be? I thought /usr/doc was the traditional * place to put a checked out copy of the doc/ repository. Uh, no. That's too confusing, why would /usr/doc be the sources when the actual documents go to /usr/share/doc? I use /usr/opt/doc myself. (Same for www.) If people agree that all non-src sources should go to /usr/opt, I'm not against moving ports there too. Satoshi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue May 11 1:54:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from firewall1.lehman.com (firewall.Lehman.COM [192.147.65.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FEDA14D29; Tue, 11 May 1999 01:54:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nclayton@lehman.com) Received: from relay.messaging-svcs2.lehman.com by firewall1.lehman.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) id EAA20425; Tue, 11 May 1999 04:53:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lonmailhost.lehman.com by relay.messaging-svcs2.lehman.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) id EAA08432; Tue, 11 May 1999 04:52:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lonmailhost.lehman.com (SMI-8.6/Lehman Bros. V1.5) id JAA03249; Tue, 11 May 1999 09:52:32 +0100 Message-ID: <19990511095232.N14492@lehman.com> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 09:52:32 +0100 From: nclayton@lehman.com To: Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami Cc: wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org, jesusr@ncsa.es, chris@calldei.com, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Can't build handbook References: <19990508141141.A20366@holly.dyndns.org> <19990508231333.45191@panke.de.freebsd.org> <19990510111306.I14492@lehman.com> <199905110749.AAA28713@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <199905110749.AAA28713@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu>; from Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami on Tue, May 11, 1999 at 12:49:10AM -0700 Organization: Lehman Brothers Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, May 11, 1999 at 12:49:10AM -0700, Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami wrote: > * From: nclayton@lehman.com > > * What should it assume it to be? I thought /usr/doc was the traditional > * place to put a checked out copy of the doc/ repository. > > Uh, no. That's too confusing, why would /usr/doc be the sources when > the actual documents go to /usr/share/doc? Why not? FWIW, I think this has become moderately common usage because of the Handbook entry on CVSup, which recommends *default prefix=/usr If you don't change that then you get /usr/{src,doc,ports,...} > I use /usr/opt/doc myself. (Same for www.) If people agree that all > non-src sources should go to /usr/opt, I'm not against moving ports > there too. /usr/opt? Ugh. OK, that's not the most coherent of criticisms, but I don't particularly like it. Apart from anything else, I don't think we should be hardcoding paths in these trees at all. The DOC_PREFIX kludge is only there until the doc/ repository is reorganised to put all the documentation at the same level in the file system relative to one another. When that's done it can be removed. N -- --+==[ Systems Administrator, Year 2000 Test Lab, Lehman Brothers, Inc. ]==+-- --+==[ 1 Broadgate, London, EC2M 7HA 0171-601-0011 x5514 ]==+-- --+==[ Year 2000 Testing: It's about time. . . ]==+-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue May 11 2: 6:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from stampede.cs.berkeley.edu (stampede.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.45.124]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20F5414D29 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 02:06:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asami@cs.berkeley.edu) Received: from silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (sji-ca43-212.ix.netcom.com [209.111.209.212]) by stampede.cs.berkeley.edu (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA08007; Tue, 11 May 1999 02:07:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (8.9.2/8.6.9) id CAA29030; Tue, 11 May 1999 02:06:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 02:06:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905110906.CAA29030@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: silvia.hip.berkeley.edu: asami set sender to asami@cs.berkeley.edu using -f To: nclayton@lehman.com Cc: wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org, jesusr@ncsa.es, chris@calldei.com, doc@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <19990511095232.N14492@lehman.com> (nclayton@lehman.com) Subject: Re: Can't build handbook From: asami@FreeBSD.ORG (Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami) References: <19990508141141.A20366@holly.dyndns.org> <19990508231333.45191@panke.de.freebsd.org> <19990510111306.I14492@lehman.com> <199905110749.AAA28713@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> <19990511095232.N14492@lehman.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org * /usr/opt? Ugh. * * OK, that's not the most coherent of criticisms, but I don't particularly * like it. And I don't like /usr/doc. So now what? (I at least gave a reason why I don't like it.) * Apart from anything else, I don't think we should be hardcoding paths in * these trees at all. The DOC_PREFIX kludge is only there until the doc/ That's probably the best way. Don't hardcode it anywhere so people can put it wherever they want. -PW To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue May 11 2:34:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from firewall1.lehman.com (firewall.Lehman.COM [192.147.65.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4FDF14DE5 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 02:34:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nclayton@lehman.com) Received: from relay.messaging-svcs2.lehman.com by firewall1.lehman.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) id FAA29856; Tue, 11 May 1999 05:31:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lonmailhost.lehman.com by relay.messaging-svcs2.lehman.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) id FAA23585; Tue, 11 May 1999 05:30:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lonmailhost.lehman.com (SMI-8.6/Lehman Bros. V1.5) id KAA06608; Tue, 11 May 1999 10:30:45 +0100 Message-ID: <19990511103045.P14492@lehman.com> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 10:30:45 +0100 From: nclayton@lehman.com To: John Baldwin , Nik Clayton Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, Kevin Lo Subject: Re: FAQ team. References: <19990510194453.A41076@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: ; from John Baldwin on Mon, May 10, 1999 at 06:59:56PM -0400 Organization: Lehman Brothers Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, May 10, 1999 at 06:59:56PM -0400, John Baldwin wrote: > On 10-May-99 Nik Clayton wrote: > > Not yet. I haven't looked seriously at DocBook 3.1 yet, which is what > > we'll do the FAQ in. 3.1 has a new qandaset element (and subelements) > > for marking up FAQs. > > Do we want to change /usr/doc/share/sgml/freebsd.dtd to use 3.1 and get rid of > the FAQ* entries from it or would you rather move the FreeBSD specifics out > into another file that freebsd.dtd and freebsd-faq.dtd (or > freebsd-31.dtd or something) include? I'm not quite sure I understand. I'm going to get a repository copy done of freebsd.dtd to freebsd-docbook-300.dtd. Then I'll update the catalog file to point to that for the FPI "-//FreeBSD//DTD DocBook V3.0-Based Extension//EN". Then I'll create freebsd-docbook-310.dtd, based on DocBook 3.1, and create an FPI for that, which will probably be "-//FreeBSD//DTD DocBook V3.1-Based Extension//EN" That way we can have 3.0 and 3.1 based documents co-existing in the tree. As soon as that's done we can then use both DTDs without fear of them clashing. I will strip the FAQ* elements out of both DTDs. > > If anyone wants to experiment with this, here's a very quick sample of > > how it might be used. Make sure you've got the docbook-310 port > > installed for this. Notice how one question can have several answers > > attached to it. This could be very useful for including multiple answers > > depending on the FreeBSD version in use; you could use the "os" attribute > > to differentiate between them. > > Spiffy. Would we be better off doing it by hand or by using the > linuxdoc-to-handbook script you referred to earlier? I wouldn't recommend doing it by hand. Look at http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/doc/en/handbook/Attic/README?rev=1.66 for an idea of how I did the Handbook. Note that I've not (yet) finalised the directory tree I want to use for doc/*, because I hadn't considered character encoding in my last message. I'll be writing a message to -doc about this soon, inviting further comment. N -- --+==[ Systems Administrator, Year 2000 Test Lab, Lehman Brothers, Inc. ]==+-- --+==[ 1 Broadgate, London, EC2M 7HA 0171-601-0011 x5514 ]==+-- --+==[ Year 2000 Testing: It's about time. . . ]==+-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue May 11 3: 0: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADCA415970 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 03:00:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id DAA65367; Tue, 11 May 1999 03:00:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mrelay.jrc.it (mrelay.jrc.it [139.191.1.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58A4D158D3 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 02:59:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nick.hibma@jrc.it) Received: from elpc36.jrc.it (elpc36.jrc.it [139.191.71.36]) by mrelay.jrc.it (LMC5692) with ESMTP id LAA10952 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 11:59:40 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from n_hibma@localhost) by elpc36.jrc.it (8.9.3/8.8.7) id LAA16242; Tue, 11 May 1999 11:58:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from n_hibma) Message-Id: <199905110958.LAA16242@elpc36.jrc.it> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 11:58:39 +0200 (CEST) From: n_hibma@freebsd.org Reply-To: n_hibma@freebsd.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/11643: handbook should state alternatives Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11643 >Category: docs >Synopsis: handbook should state alternatives >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue May 11 03:00:02 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Nick Hibma >Release: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: Joint Research Centre >Environment: FreeBSD elpc36.jrc.it 4.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT #0: Fri May 7 09:58:12 CEST 1999 n_hibma@elpc36.jrc.it:/usr/src/sys/compile/ELPC i386 >Description: The manpage http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/cutting-edge.html states in 2) that cvsup can be fetched from ftp.freebsd.org -> Wustl. but this site is busy, very busy. 'Not logged in error' >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: State alternatives for the command in brackets. This might be applicable to other locations in the docu as well. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue May 11 3:20: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B4E2159C8 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 03:20:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id DAA67106; Tue, 11 May 1999 03:20:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from foobar.franken.de (foobar.franken.de [194.94.249.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2938159A9 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 03:12:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from logix@foobar.franken.de) Received: (from logix@localhost) by foobar.franken.de (8.8.8/8.8.5) id MAA12150; Tue, 11 May 1999 12:12:27 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <199905111012.MAA12150@foobar.franken.de> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 12:12:27 +0200 (CEST) From: Harold Gutch Reply-To: logix@foobar.franken.de To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/11645: The dir(5) manpage does not mention the unportability of d_type (fix included) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11645 >Category: docs >Synopsis: The dir(5) manpage does not mention the unportability of d_type (fix included) >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue May 11 03:20:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Harold Gutch >Release: FreeBSD 3.1-STABLE i386 >Organization: >Environment: Not relevant. >Description: The member d_type of struct dirent is FreeBSD-specific. The dir(5) manpage mentions d_type but does not mention the unportability in any way. It also does not mention that d_type does not work on all filesystems. >How-To-Repeat: Read the fine manpage. >Fix: --- dir.5.orig Tue May 11 11:52:08 1999 +++ dir.5 Tue May 11 11:57:30 1999 @@ -148,6 +148,9 @@ .Sh SEE ALSO .Xr fs 5 , .Xr inode 5 +.Sh BUGS +The usage of the member d_type of struct dirent is unportable as it is FreeBSD-specific. +It also may fail on certain filesystems, for example the cd9660 filesystem. .Sh HISTORY A .Nm >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue May 11 4:54:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from firewall2.lehman.com (firewall.Lehman.COM [192.147.65.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50E4E159CB; Tue, 11 May 1999 04:53:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nclayton@lehman.com) Received: from relay.messaging-svcs2.lehman.com by firewall2.lehman.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) id HAA08173; Tue, 11 May 1999 07:53:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lonmailhost.lehman.com by relay.messaging-svcs2.lehman.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) id HAA23532; Tue, 11 May 1999 07:52:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lonmailhost.lehman.com (SMI-8.6/Lehman Bros. V1.5) id MAA18281; Tue, 11 May 1999 12:52:33 +0100 Message-ID: <19990511125232.V14492@lehman.com> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 12:52:32 +0100 From: nclayton@lehman.com To: Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami Cc: wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org, jesusr@ncsa.es, chris@calldei.com, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Can't build handbook References: <19990508141141.A20366@holly.dyndns.org> <19990508231333.45191@panke.de.freebsd.org> <19990510111306.I14492@lehman.com> <199905110749.AAA28713@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> <19990511095232.N14492@lehman.com> <199905110906.CAA29030@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <199905110906.CAA29030@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu>; from Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami on Tue, May 11, 1999 at 02:06:20AM -0700 Organization: Lehman Brothers Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, May 11, 1999 at 02:06:20AM -0700, Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami wrote: > * /usr/opt? Ugh. > * > * OK, that's not the most coherent of criticisms, but I don't particularly > * like it. > > And I don't like /usr/doc. So now what? (I at least gave a reason > why I don't like it.) Yeah, it's "too confusing". Not to me, but then I'm probably not the most unbiased observer around :-) > * Apart from anything else, I don't think we should be hardcoding paths in > * these trees at all. The DOC_PREFIX kludge is only there until the doc/ > > That's probably the best way. Don't hardcode it anywhere so people > can put it wherever they want. Agreed 100%. N -- --+==[ Systems Administrator, Year 2000 Test Lab, Lehman Brothers, Inc. ]==+-- --+==[ 1 Broadgate, London, EC2M 7HA 0171-601-0011 x5514 ]==+-- --+==[ Year 2000 Testing: It's about time. . . ]==+-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue May 11 5:16:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (quackerjack.cc.vt.edu [198.82.160.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF5BD1551B for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 05:16:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jobaldwi@vt.edu) Received: from sable.cc.vt.edu (sable.cc.vt.edu [128.173.16.30]) by quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA28930; Tue, 11 May 1999 08:15:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from john.baldwin.cx (jobaldwi.campus.vt.edu [198.82.67.63]) by sable.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA28804; Tue, 11 May 1999 08:15:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <19990511103045.P14492@lehman.com> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 08:15:47 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: nclayton@lehman.com Subject: Re: FAQ team. Cc: Kevin Lo , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, Nik Clayton , John Baldwin Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 11-May-99 nclayton@lehman.com wrote: > On Mon, May 10, 1999 at 06:59:56PM -0400, John Baldwin wrote: >> On 10-May-99 Nik Clayton wrote: >> > Not yet. I haven't looked seriously at DocBook 3.1 yet, which is what >> > we'll do the FAQ in. 3.1 has a new qandaset element (and subelements) >> > for marking up FAQs. >> >> Do we want to change /usr/doc/share/sgml/freebsd.dtd to use 3.1 and get rid >> of >> the FAQ* entries from it or would you rather move the FreeBSD specifics out >> into another file that freebsd.dtd and freebsd-faq.dtd (or >> freebsd-31.dtd or something) include? > > I'm not quite sure I understand. > > I'm going to get a repository copy done of freebsd.dtd to > freebsd-docbook-300.dtd. Then I'll update the catalog file to point to > that for the FPI "-//FreeBSD//DTD DocBook V3.0-Based Extension//EN". > > Then I'll create freebsd-docbook-310.dtd, based on DocBook 3.1, and > create an FPI for that, which will probably be > > "-//FreeBSD//DTD DocBook V3.1-Based Extension//EN" > > That way we can have 3.0 and 3.1 based documents co-existing in the > tree. As soon as that's done we can then use both DTDs without fear of > them clashing. I will strip the FAQ* elements out of both DTDs. Works for me, that was my second idea, except that I was figuring we could have a SGML file that we included into both of them that held all of the extensions common to both, e.g. prompt entitites, so that you only had to change one file to update both DTD's. You could call it freebsd.ent and then the two freebsd.dtd's would reduce to something like: %orig-docbook; %freebsd-extensions; Since you have stuff both before and after the orig-docbook lines in freebsd.dtd I suppose you might have to create two files, freebsd-pre.ent and freebsd-post.ent or something similar. Then all you would have to change for freebsd-docbook-310.dtd simply by changing the FPI for orig-docbook. If it is too much hassle and the FreeBSD extensions are nailed down and not going to change, then don't worry about it, 'twas just a suggestion. :) >> > If anyone wants to experiment with this, here's a very quick sample of >> > how it might be used. Make sure you've got the docbook-310 port >> > installed for this. Notice how one question can have several answers >> > attached to it. This could be very useful for including multiple answers >> > depending on the FreeBSD version in use; you could use the "os" attribute >> > to differentiate between them. >> >> Spiffy. Would we be better off doing it by hand or by using the >> linuxdoc-to-handbook script you referred to earlier? > > I wouldn't recommend doing it by hand. Look at > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/doc/en/handbook/Attic/README?rev=1.66 > > for an idea of how I did the Handbook. Ok, thanks. > Note that I've not (yet) finalised the directory tree I want to use for > doc/*, because I hadn't considered character encoding in my last message. > I'll be writing a message to -doc about this soon, inviting further comment. > > N --- John Baldwin -- http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/ PGP Key: http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue May 11 5:25:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86F5A14C8B; Tue, 11 May 1999 05:25:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id FAA07215; Tue, 11 May 1999 05:25:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 05:25:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199905111225.FAA07215@freefall.freebsd.org> To: root@eagle.phc.igs.net, kris@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/11011: missing man page for arc4 related functions Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: missing man page for arc4 related functions State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: kris State-Changed-When: Tue May 11 05:21:28 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: These are static functions and are not exported by libc. The three arc4* functions which are visible to user programs are arc4random(), arc4random_stir() and arc4random_addrandom() which are correctly linked to arc4random(3). Thanks anyway! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue May 11 5:42:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail-gw2adm.rcsntx.swbell.net (mail-gw2.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 461621590E for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 05:42:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@holly.dyndns.org) Received: from holly.dyndns.org (ppp-207-193-11-54.hstntx.swbell.net [207.193.11.54]) by mail-gw2adm.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA10765; Tue, 11 May 1999 07:42:03 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA00767; Tue, 11 May 1999 07:43:27 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from chris) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 07:43:25 -0500 From: Chris Costello To: Nik Clayton Cc: chris@calldei.com, Jesus Rodriguez , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Can't build handbook Message-ID: <19990511074325.A619@holly.dyndns.org> Reply-To: chris@calldei.com References: <19990508141141.A20366@holly.dyndns.org> <19990508143307.D20366@holly.dyndns.org> <19990510194625.B41076@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.1i In-Reply-To: <19990510194625.B41076@catkin.nothing-going-on.org>; from Nik Clayton on Mon, May 10, 1999 at 07:46:25PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, May 10, 1999, Nik Clayton wrote: > On Sat, May 08, 1999 at 02:33:07PM -0500, Chris Costello wrote: > > No, but that does make for another error: > > > > # make DOC_PREFIX=/usr/doc > > ===> FAQ > > sgmlfmt -f html -links /usr/doc/FAQ/FAQ.sgml > > sgmlfmt -f latin1 -links /usr/doc/FAQ/FAQ.sgml > > sgmlfmt -f ascii -links /usr/doc/FAQ/FAQ.sgml > > FAQ.trf:7587: warning: can't find special character `:i' > > FAQ.trf:7587: warning: can't find special character `:i' > > S'OK, that's expected, and part of the FAQ conversion process. It > shouldn't stop the build from happening, and you will get a plain text > version of the FAQ at the end of it. But what about: /usr/local/bin/jade:handbook.sgml:12:0:E: cannot open "/usr/doc/share/sgml/../../en/share/sgml/bookinfo.ent" (No such file or directory) /usr/local/bin/jade:handbook.sgml:46:5:E: general entity "bookinfo.legalnotice" not defined and no default entity /usr/local/bin/jade:introduction/chapter.sgml:338:0:E: character data is not allowed here /usr/local/bin/jade:introduction/chapter.sgml:340:60:E: end tag for element "PARA" which is not open *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. That makes it a bit harder to be productive with the handbook. ;) > N > -- > There's some milk in the fridge about to go off. . . and there it goes. -- Chris Costello Adding manpower to a late software project makes it later. - Brook To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue May 11 9:46:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ccssu.crimea.ua (mordor.ccssu.crimea.ua [62.244.13.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2092215950 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 09:43:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ccssu.crimea.ua (8.9.0/8.9.0) with UUCP id TAA28906 for doc@freebsd.org; Tue, 11 May 1999 19:29:06 +0400 Received: (from phantom@localhost) by scorpion.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.5+ssl+keepalive) id TAA02467 for doc@freebsd.org; Tue, 11 May 1999 19:19:21 +0400 (MSD) From: Alexey Zelkin Message-Id: <199905111519.TAA02467@scorpion.crimea.ua> Subject: nationalization To: doc@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 19:19:21 +0400 (MSD) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi folks! I am going to translate and maintain russian translation of the man pages (like japan one). Is here someone who can assist me for this work. Just interesting about possible problems. Also I am interesting about system integration details. Is here someone from Japan Team who integrated /usr/share/man/ja in ? Which actions I need to do to activate /usr/share/man// (except setting MANPATH variable) ? Any assistance greatly appreciate! -- Sincerely Yours, | phantom@crimea.edu (primary) Alexey Zelkin | phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua (home) | ICQ: #6196584, FIDO: 2:460/12.26 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue May 11 9:48:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.email.msn.com (cpimssmtpu01.email.msn.com [207.46.181.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9176515D7A for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 09:47:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from MASTEROFTHEDARKNEST@email.msn.com) Received: from MSN/MASTEROFTHEDARKNEST - 208.251.101.204 by email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 11 May 1999 09:47:27 -0700 Message-ID: <000101be9bc5$203d3f60$04000005@MSN/MASTEROFTHEDARKNEST> From: "edgardo vazquez" To: Cc: Subject: HOLA Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 12:43:48 -0300 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org MIRA YO QUIERO APRENDER A HACKIAR SI ME ENSEñA TELO AGRADECERE To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue May 11 10:22:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from brussel.planetinternet.be (brussel.planetinternet.be [194.119.232.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5F0114E90 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 10:22:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from p.libin@planetinternet.be) Received: from jsd (u195-95-34-65.pop-leuven5.planetinternet.be [195.95.34.65]) by brussel.planetinternet.be (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id TAA19951 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 19:22:12 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <000701be9bd2$c81f8960$41225fc3@jsd> From: "Pieter LIBIN" To: Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 19:21:55 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01BE9BE3.8851DB60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BE9BE3.8851DB60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, =20 Is FreeBSD compatible with * US ROBOTICS modem * Iomega Zip = Drive (100) * Creative SB = 64 Special Edition * STB Velocity = 128 3D AGP (Nvidia Riva = 128) (video adapter) * Dell D1025HE = monitor * USB * HP DeskJet = 890 C * CDD 3610 = CD-RW (Philips) I already checked your site out but I couldn't retrieve the available = hardware devices. 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------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BE9BE3.8851DB60-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue May 11 10:45:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from imap.ncsa.es (imap.ncsa.es [194.179.50.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 188CD15045; Tue, 11 May 1999 10:43:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesusr@ncsa.es) Received: from ender.ncsa.es (ender.ncsa.es [194.179.50.15]) by imap.ncsa.es (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA50119; Tue, 11 May 1999 19:43:52 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 19:43:24 +0200 (CEST) Reply-To: jesusr@ncsa.es Organization: Nexus Comunicaciones, S.A. From: Jesus Rodriguez To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: doc-supfile and www-supfile Cc: wosch@FreeBSD.ORG, nik@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I didn't get answer to this so, here goes again: Nik, Wolfram, there is some posibility to commit a www-supfile and doc-supfile examples to /usr/share/examples/cvsup ? Thanks JesusR. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue May 11 13:36:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from poseidon.tirol.com (unknown [194.232.15.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9447614DE0 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 13:35:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from c.arash@tirol.com) Received: (qmail 6370 invoked by uid 0); 11 May 1999 20:35:03 -0000 Received: from tol163.tirol.com (HELO carlosnovoa) (194.232.192.163) by poseidon.tirol.com with SMTP; 11 May 1999 20:35:03 -0000 Message-ID: <000701be9bed$bd1866c0$a3c0e8c2@carlosnovoa> From: "c.arash" To: Subject: FreeBSDHandbook Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 22:34:52 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01BE9BFE.7C9B3EE0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BE9BFE.7C9B3EE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Guten Tag,=20 Ich m=F6chte das FreeBSDHandbook haben. Mit freundlichen gr=FCssen CARLOS NOVOA ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BE9BFE.7C9B3EE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BE9BFE.7C9B3EE0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue May 11 13:43:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (baerenklau.de.freebsd.org [195.185.195.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA94415085; Tue, 11 May 1999 13:43:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id WAA29620; Tue, 11 May 1999 22:43:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from wosch@localhost) by paula.panke.de.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.8.8) id VAA01544; Tue, 11 May 1999 21:55:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wosch) Message-ID: <19990511215528.64918@panke.de.freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 21:55:28 +0200 From: Wolfram Schneider To: jesusr@ncsa.es, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: wosch@FreeBSD.ORG, nik@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: doc-supfile and www-supfile References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: ; from Jesus Rodriguez on Tue, May 11, 1999 at 07:43:24PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 1999-05-11 19:43:24 +0200, Jesus Rodriguez wrote: > I didn't get answer to this so, here goes again: > > Nik, Wolfram, there is some posibility to commit a www-supfile > and doc-supfile examples to /usr/share/examples/cvsup ? just do it. -- Wolfram Schneider http://wolfram.schneider.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue May 11 20:54:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pops.interhack.net (pops.interhack.net [209.190.37.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B665F14D07 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 20:54:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cmcurtin@strangepork.interhack.net) Received: from strangepork.interhack.net (strangepork.interhack.net [192.168.1.12]) by pops.interhack.net (8.8.8/8.8.8/spamkiller) with ESMTP id BAA02211; Wed, 12 May 1999 01:31:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from cmcurtin@localhost) by strangepork.interhack.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA03364; Wed, 12 May 1999 00:02:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Curtin Message-ID: <14136.64868.868253.281196@strangepork.interhack.net> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 00:02:44 -0400 (EDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To: Alexey Zelkin Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: nationalization In-Reply-To: <199905111519.TAA02467@scorpion.crimea.ua> References: <199905111519.TAA02467@scorpion.crimea.ua> X-Mailer: VM 6.70 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid X-Attribution: Matvey X-URL: http://www.interhack.net/people/cmcurtin/ X-Face: L"IcL.b%SDN]0Kql2b`e.}+i05V9fi\yX#H1+Xl)3!+n/3?5`%-SA-HDgPk9uTk<3dv^J5DCgal)-E{`zN#*o6F|y>r)\<>>>> On Tue, 11 May 1999 19:19:21 +0400 (MSD), Alexey Zelkin said: =FA=C4=D2=C1=D7=D3=D4=D7=D5=CA=D4=C5! Alexey> I am going to translate and maintain russian Alexey> translation of the man pages (like japan one).=20 =E8=CF=D2=CF=DB=CF. Alexey> Is here someone who can assist me for this work. =F1 =C8=CF=DE=D5 =D0=CF=CD=CF=DE=D8 =C1 =D5 =CD=C9=CE=D1 =C5=D3=D4=D8 =CF= =DE=C5=CE =CE=C9=CD=CE=CF=C7=CF =D7=D2=C5=CD=D1. :-( =F1 =CD=CF=C7=D5 =CF= =D4=D7=C5=D4=C9=C0 =D7=C1=DB=C1 =D7=CF=D0=D2=CF=D3. (=F7=C1=DB=C1 =C1=CE=C7=CC=C9=D3=CB=C9=C9 =CC=D5=DE=C9=CA =D5 =CD=C9=CE= =D1 =D2=D5=D3=D3=CB=C9=C9. =E9=DA=D7=C9=CE=C9=D4=C5, =D1 =DA=CE=C1=CE=C9= =D1 =D7=C1=DB=C1 =D1=DA=D9=CB.) --=20 Matt Curtin cmcurtin@interhack.net http://www.interhack.net/people/cmcu= rtin/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue May 11 22:32:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (quackerjack.cc.vt.edu [198.82.160.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC0AC14ED2; Tue, 11 May 1999 22:32:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jobaldwi@vt.edu) Received: from sable.cc.vt.edu (sable.cc.vt.edu [128.173.16.30]) by quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA25294; Wed, 12 May 1999 01:32:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from john.baldwin.cx (jobaldwi.campus.vt.edu [198.82.67.63]) by sable.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA14612; Wed, 12 May 1999 01:32:15 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <19990511103045.P14492@lehman.com> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 01:32:15 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: nclayton@lehman.com, faq@freebsd.org Subject: DocBook DTD's for 3.0 and 3.1 Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 11-May-99 nclayton@lehman.com wrote: > On Mon, May 10, 1999 at 06:59:56PM -0400, John Baldwin wrote: >> On 10-May-99 Nik Clayton wrote: >> > Not yet. I haven't looked seriously at DocBook 3.1 yet, which is what >> > we'll do the FAQ in. 3.1 has a new qandaset element (and subelements) >> > for marking up FAQs. >> >> Do we want to change /usr/doc/share/sgml/freebsd.dtd to use 3.1 and get rid >> of >> the FAQ* entries from it or would you rather move the FreeBSD specifics out >> into another file that freebsd.dtd and freebsd-faq.dtd (or >> freebsd-31.dtd or something) include? > > I'm not quite sure I understand. > > I'm going to get a repository copy done of freebsd.dtd to > freebsd-docbook-300.dtd. Then I'll update the catalog file to point to > that for the FPI "-//FreeBSD//DTD DocBook V3.0-Based Extension//EN". > > Then I'll create freebsd-docbook-310.dtd, based on DocBook 3.1, and > create an FPI for that, which will probably be > > "-//FreeBSD//DTD DocBook V3.1-Based Extension//EN" > > That way we can have 3.0 and 3.1 based documents co-existing in the > tree. As soon as that's done we can then use both DTDs without fear of > them clashing. I will strip the FAQ* elements out of both DTDs. In case you are interested, I split the functionality of freebsd.dtd into two entity files: freebsd-ext-pre.ent and freebsd-ext-post.ent and took out the FAQ stuff. I then created freebsd-docbook-30.dtd and freebsd-docbook-31.dtd that simply include freebsd-ext-pre.ent, then their respective docbook DTD, and then freebsd-ext-post.ent. I then tested out both DTD's with both the Handbook and the DocProj-Primer. All four builds succeeded without a hitch. I have the freebsd-ext-(pre|post).ent and freebsd-docbook3[01].dtd files available as well as a patch to /usr/doc/share/sgml/catalog to change the file for the FreeBSD extended version of DocBook 3.0 and to add the 3.1 DTD. If we keep both DTD's then we will also need a patch to share/mk/docbook.docproj.mk to include both /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/3.[01] in the list of catalogs. I'd like to get cracking on moving the FAQ over to DocBook, but I'm going to be losing my 'net access for at least two weeks (have to find an ISP at my job for this summer) and I don't want to be doing my own thing away from the rest of the FAQ team. When would you guys like to start migrating it, BTW? --- John Baldwin -- http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/ PGP Key: http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed May 12 0:40:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ms2.eranet.net (ms2.eranet.net [203.95.230.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1144D152C4; Wed, 12 May 1999 00:34:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kevlo@hello.com.tw) Received: from hello.com.tw (n072.n203-95-235.eranet.net [203.95.235.72]) by ms2.eranet.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA16975; Wed, 12 May 1999 15:21:45 +0800 (CST) Message-ID: <37392BC0.FE57FB8D@hello.com.tw> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 15:20:32 +0800 From: Kevin Lo X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Baldwin Cc: nclayton@lehman.com, faq@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DocBook DTD's for 3.0 and 3.1 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=big5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org John Baldwin wrote: > I'd like to get cracking on moving the FAQ over to DocBook, but I'm going to be > losing my 'net access for at least two weeks (have to find an ISP at my job for > this summer) and I don't want to be doing my own thing away from the rest of > the FAQ team. When would you guys like to start migrating it, BTW? IMO, I think we can start migrating it right now. I'm currently writing new entries and looking at the order of entries in their sections in the FAQ, reordering the sections in the proper order. -Kevin. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed May 12 5:10: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F31315075 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 05:10:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id FAA49846; Wed, 12 May 1999 05:10:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from obelix.hrz.uni-bielefeld.de (obelix.hrz.uni-bielefeld.de [129.70.4.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E351E15CD6 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 05:00:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@obelix.hrz.uni-bielefeld.de) Received: (from root@localhost) by obelix.hrz.uni-bielefeld.de (8.9.2/8.9.2) id OAA30274; Wed, 12 May 1999 14:00:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from root) Message-Id: <199905121200.OAA30274@obelix.hrz.uni-bielefeld.de> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 14:00:00 +0200 (CEST) From: lkoeller@cc.fh-lippe.de Reply-To: lkoeller@cc.fh-lippe.de To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Cc: lkoeller@cc.fh-lippe.de X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/11667: fstab options for cd9660 mount not mentioned in manpage! Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11667 >Category: docs >Synopsis: fstab options for cd9660 mount not mentioned in manpage >Confidential: no >Severity: serious >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed May 12 05:10:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Lars Koeller >Release: FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE i386 >Organization: Computing Center, University of Bielefeld, Germany >Environment: FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE i386 >Description: Wether "man mount", "man fstab" nor "man mount_cd9660" mention the fstab equivalent options for -r, -e, -g which could be extracted from the mount_cd9660 binary via strings and are named rrip extatt gens These missing information is a general problem in all mount_* manpages! >How-To-Repeat: E.g. 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[], Leandro Bitencourt (Leo) Data Comunications, CGI and Web Databases. e-mail: leo@dsgx.org Web: http://leo.hack.com.br ICQ: 33643264 Phone: +55 14 239 87 11 and +55 14 971 48 08 BIP: 0800 164 002 Cod.: 107-1530 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu May 13 4:14: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (baerenklau.de.freebsd.org [195.185.195.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9628F14DA2; Thu, 13 May 1999 04:14:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id NAA15878; Thu, 13 May 1999 13:13:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from wosch@localhost) by paula.panke.de.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.8.8) id NAA05389; Thu, 13 May 1999 13:04:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wosch) Message-ID: <19990513130423.49638@panke.de.freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 13:04:23 +0200 From: Wolfram Schneider To: Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami , nclayton@lehman.com Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Can't build handbook References: <19990508141141.A20366@holly.dyndns.org> <19990508231333.45191@panke.de.freebsd.org> <19990510111306.I14492@lehman.com> <199905110749.AAA28713@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <199905110749.AAA28713@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu>; from Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami on Tue, May 11, 1999 at 12:49:10AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 1999-05-11 00:49:10 -0700, Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami wrote: > * From: nclayton@lehman.com > > * What should it assume it to be? I thought /usr/doc was the traditional > * place to put a checked out copy of the doc/ repository. > > Uh, no. That's too confusing, why would /usr/doc be the sources when > the actual documents go to /usr/share/doc? > > I use /usr/opt/doc myself. (Same for www.) If people agree that all > non-src sources should go to /usr/opt, I'm not against moving ports > there too. Me too. I never build the web pages in /usr/{www,doc}. I'm doing it in /usr/tmp or ~/tmp. The /usr/ partition is reserved for root and read-only for most users. I don't want login as root to build the web pages. -- Wolfram Schneider http://wolfram.schneider.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu May 13 4:41:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from firewall1.lehman.com (firewall1.Lehman.COM [192.147.65.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C66D614BDB; Thu, 13 May 1999 04:41:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nclayton@lehman.com) Received: from relay.messaging-svcs2.lehman.com by firewall1.lehman.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) id HAA15512; Thu, 13 May 1999 07:41:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lonmailhost.lehman.com by relay.messaging-svcs2.lehman.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) id HAA29945; Thu, 13 May 1999 07:40:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lonmailhost.lehman.com (SMI-8.6/Lehman Bros. V1.5) id MAA26779; Thu, 13 May 1999 12:40:39 +0100 Message-ID: <19990513124039.N14492@lehman.com> Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 12:40:39 +0100 From: nclayton@lehman.com To: Wolfram Schneider , Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Can't build handbook References: <19990508141141.A20366@holly.dyndns.org> <19990508231333.45191@panke.de.freebsd.org> <19990510111306.I14492@lehman.com> <199905110749.AAA28713@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> <19990513130423.49638@panke.de.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <19990513130423.49638@panke.de.freebsd.org>; from Wolfram Schneider on Thu, May 13, 1999 at 01:04:23PM +0200 Organization: Lehman Brothers Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, May 13, 1999 at 01:04:23PM +0200, Wolfram Schneider wrote: > On 1999-05-11 00:49:10 -0700, Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami wrote: > > * From: nclayton@lehman.com > > > > * What should it assume it to be? I thought /usr/doc was the traditional > > * place to put a checked out copy of the doc/ repository. > > > > Uh, no. That's too confusing, why would /usr/doc be the sources when > > the actual documents go to /usr/share/doc? > > > > I use /usr/opt/doc myself. (Same for www.) If people agree that all > > non-src sources should go to /usr/opt, I'm not against moving ports > > there too. > > Me too. I never build the web pages in /usr/{www,doc}. I'm doing > it in /usr/tmp or ~/tmp. > > The /usr/ partition is reserved for root and read-only for most users. > I don't want login as root to build the web pages. OK. But I'm pretty certain this is irrelevant, as all we're really talking about is a default. As it stands, the default supfiles for CVSup have *default prefix=/usr This is going to result in /usr/src, /usr/ports, /usr/doc, /usr/www, /usr/gnats, and so on. For the "normal" user, who just wants things to track -stable and/or -current, this is fine, since they're going to be doing the build as 'root' anyway. Anyone that wants to contribute to the FDP is *strongly* advised to maintain a local copy of the CVS repository. And if they're doing that then the checked out location is entirely up to them (I use ~/FreeBSD-CVS, FWIW). Yes, if they check it out anywhere other than /usr/doc they will need to set DOC_PREFIX. As I've already explained, this is a hack that will (eventually) go away. In the meantime we can do one of two things; 1. Keep the "DOC_PREFIX?=/usr/doc" line in docproj.docbook.mk, but change the path from /usr/doc to something else. I think changing the path is a bad idea, as anyone who's just cut-n-pasted the CVSup configurations is going to be inconvenienced. 2. Stick in some code that checks for an empty DOC_PREFIX, and advises the user on how to fix it. Or better yet, looks in DOC_PREFIX first the make sure the appropriate files are there, and warns the user if they aren't. I posted code that does this earlier on in this thread. I think option 2 is the best way to go. We can keep /usr/doc as the default, and it will work if the user has been storing a checked out copy in /usr/doc. If they haven't then the DOC_PREFIX test will discover that, abort the build, and print instructions about what they should do. N -- --+==[ Systems Administrator, Year 2000 Test Lab, Lehman Brothers, Inc. ]==+-- --+==[ 1 Broadgate, London, EC2M 7HA 0171-601-0011 x5514 ]==+-- --+==[ Year 2000 Testing: It's about time. . . ]==+-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu May 13 8:30: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 029C814F15 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 08:30:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id IAA28210; Thu, 13 May 1999 08:30:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp10.nwnexus.com (smtp10.nwnexus.com [206.63.63.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93F1B14DBB for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 08:26:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wrsomsky@halcyon.com) Received: from gramarye (evt-lx100-ip43.nwnexus.net [204.57.235.43]) by smtp10.nwnexus.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA01223 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 08:26:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from wrsomsky@localhost) by gramarye (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA00858; Thu, 13 May 1999 08:25:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wrsomsky) Message-Id: <199905131525.IAA00858.gramarye.wrsomsky@halcyon.com> Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 08:25:06 -0700 (PDT) From: "William R. Somsky" Reply-To: wrsomsky@halcyon.com To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/11688: clarify send-pr categories... Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11688 >Category: docs >Synopsis: clarify send-pr categories... >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu May 13 08:30:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: William R. Somsky >Release: FreeBSD 3.2-BETA i386 >Organization: >Environment: >Description: In submiting problem reports, it is somewhat unclear what the various categories are meant to refer to. Eg, what constitutes a "conf" problem? >How-To-Repeat: Invoke "send-pr" >Fix: A brief description of what the (standard) categories are meant to cover could be added to the send-pr man page. It may also be reasonable to add comments on what should be considered proper/typical uses of the various levels of severity and priority. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu May 13 11:40:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from hp9000.chc-chimes.com (hp9000.chc-chimes.com [206.67.97.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 611C214D8A; Thu, 13 May 1999 11:40:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billf@chc-chimes.com) Received: from localhost by hp9000.chc-chimes.com with SMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA104595576; Thu, 13 May 1999 10:26:16 -0400 Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 10:26:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Fumerola To: nclayton@lehman.com Cc: Wolfram Schneider , Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Can't build handbook In-Reply-To: <19990513124039.N14492@lehman.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 13 May 1999 nclayton@lehman.com wrote: > This is going to result in /usr/src, /usr/ports, /usr/doc, /usr/www, > /usr/gnats, and so on. Oh yeah, I added www-supfile and doc-supfile per jesusr's request, BTW. - bill fumerola - billf@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfumerol@computerhorizons.com - billf@FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu May 13 12: 3:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2DFD1536D; Thu, 13 May 1999 12:03:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dt@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from dt@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id MAA47435; Thu, 13 May 1999 12:03:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dt@FreeBSD.org) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 12:03:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199905131903.MAA47435@freefall.freebsd.org> To: andy@icc.surw.chel.su, dt@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/11233: Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/preface.sgml Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/preface.sgml State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: dt State-Changed-When: Thu May 13 12:03:12 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu May 13 12: 4:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC24C14F67; Thu, 13 May 1999 12:04:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dt@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from dt@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id MAA47572; Thu, 13 May 1999 12:04:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dt@FreeBSD.org) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 12:04:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199905131904.MAA47572@freefall.freebsd.org> To: andy@icc.surw.chel.su, dt@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/11234: Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/install.sgml Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/install.sgml State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: dt State-Changed-When: Thu May 13 12:04:00 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu May 13 12:20: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A52D014D5E for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 12:20:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id MAA49002; Thu, 13 May 1999 12:20:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail-gw3adm.rcsntx.swbell.net (mail-gw3.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71B061503A for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 12:16:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@holly.dyndns.org) Received: from holly.dyndns.org (ppp-207-193-14-155.hstntx.swbell.net [207.193.14.155]) by mail-gw3adm.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA07940 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 14:16:45 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA20358; Thu, 13 May 1999 14:18:16 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from chris) Message-Id: <199905131918.OAA20358@holly.dyndns.org> Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 14:18:16 -0500 (CDT) From: Chris Costello Reply-To: chris@calldei.com To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/11695: [Patch] src/share/man/man7/hier.7 is out of date Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11695 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [Patch] src/share/man/man7/hier.7 is out of date >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu May 13 12:20:00 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Chris Costello >Release: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: none. >Environment: CVS checkout of src/share/man/man7 from roughly 1:00 PM CST, 13 May. >Description: There are various typos and missing files and directories in the hier.7 man page. >How-To-Repeat: man hier >Fix: Index: hier.7 =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/src/share/man/man7/hier.7,v retrieving revision 1.17 diff -u -r1.17 hier.7 --- hier.7 1999/02/15 00:56:38 1.17 +++ hier.7 1999/05/13 17:12:51 @@ -62,10 +62,18 @@ system configuration files and scripts .Pp .Bl -tag -width "disklabels/" -compact +.It Li defaults/ +default system configuration files; +see +.Xr rc 8 .It Li gnats/ gnats configuration files; see .Xr send-pr 1 +.It Li isdn/ +isdn4bsd configuration files; +see +.Xr isdnd 8 .It Li kerberosIV/ configuration files for the kerberos version IV; see @@ -74,6 +82,8 @@ local timezone information; see .Xr ctime 3 +.It Li mail/ +spam-filtering information .It Li mtree/ mtree configuration files; see @@ -82,6 +92,11 @@ named configuration files; see .Xr named 8 +.It Li periodic/ +scripts that are run daily, weekly, and monthly, via +.Xr cron 8 ; +see +.Xr periodic 8 .It Li ppp/ .Xr ppp 8 ppp configuration files; @@ -111,7 +126,7 @@ see .Xr procfs 5 , .Xr mount_procfs 8 -.It Li /root +.It Li /root/ root's HOME directory .It Li /sbin/ system programs and administration utilities @@ -143,9 +158,9 @@ .It Li std GNU C++ libstdc++ include files .El -.It Li isofs +.It Li isofs/ .Bl -tag -width "kerberosIV/" -compact -.It Li cd9660 +.It Li cd9660/ iso9660 filesystem .El .It Li kerberosIV/ @@ -158,24 +173,12 @@ MS-DOS file system .It Li net/ misc network C include files -.\" .It Li netimp/ -.\" C include files for IMP protocols; -.\" see -.\" .Xr imp 4 .It Li netatalk/ Appletalk protocol .It Li netinet/ C include files for Internet standard protocols; see .Xr inet 4 -.\" .It Li netiso/ -.\" C include files for ISO standard protocols; -.\" see -.\" .Xr iso 4 -.\" .It Li netns/ -.\" C include files for XNS standard protocols; -.\" see -.\" .Xr \&ns 4 .It Li netipx/ IPX/SPX protocol stacks .It Li netkey/ @@ -185,7 +188,7 @@ .It Li nfs/ C include files for NFS (Network File System) .It Li objc/ -??? +Objective C include files .It Li pccard/ PC-CARD controllers .It Li protocols/ @@ -204,16 +207,16 @@ libss ??? .It Li sys/ system C include files (kernel data structures) -.It Li tcl/ -Tcl language; -see -Xr Tcl n -.Bl -tag -width "kerberosIV/" -compact -.It Li generic/ -??? -.It Li unix/ -??? -.El +.\" .It Li tcl/ +.\" Tcl language; +.\" see +.\" .Xr Tcl n +.\" .Bl -tag -width "kerberosIV/" -compact +.\" .It Li generic/ +.\" ??? +.\" .It Li unix/ +.\" ??? +.\" .El .It Li ufs/ C include files for UFS (The U-word File System) .Bl -tag -width "kerberosIV/" -compact @@ -240,7 +243,7 @@ archive libraries .Bl -tag -width Fl -compact .It Li compat/ -shared libraries for compatibly +shared libraries for compatibility .El .Pp .It Li libdata/ @@ -252,6 +255,13 @@ various prebuilt lint libraries; see .Xr lint 1 +.It Li perl/ +.Bl -tag -width Fl -compact +.It Li 5.00503/ +contains Perl modules for Perl version 5.00503; +see +.Xr perl 1 +.El .It Li stallion/ holding the download firmware images .It Li tcl @@ -378,7 +388,7 @@ .It Li fonts/ ??? .It Li pcvtfonts/ -???; +pcvt fonts; see .Xr pcvt 4 .It Li pkg_manage/ @@ -450,9 +460,7 @@ src for files in /usr/lib .It Li libexec/ src for files in /usr/libexec -.It Li local/ -src for files in /usr/local -.It Li release +.It Li release/ Files required to produce a .Tn FreeBSD release @@ -472,6 +480,20 @@ .Pp .It Li X11R6/ X11R6 distribution executables, libraries, etc (optional). +.Bl -tag -width "include/" -compact +.It Li bin/ +X11R6 binaries (servers, utilities, local packages/ports). +.It Li etc/ +X11R6 configuration files and scripts. +.It Li include/ +X11R6 include files. +.It Li lib/ +X11R6 libraries. +.It Li man/ +X11R6 manual pages. +.It Li share/ +architecture independant files. +.El .El .It Li /var/ multi-purpose log, temporary, transient, and spool files >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu May 13 14:48:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66E58151DC; Thu, 13 May 1999 14:45:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) id VAA72036; Thu, 13 May 1999 21:14:58 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 21:14:58 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: doc@freebsd.org, freebsd-translate@ngo.org.uk Subject: FDP Directory Reorganisation Message-ID: <19990513211458.B70767@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Folks, [ Sent to: doc@freebsd.org FreeBSD Documentation Project freebsd-translate@ngo.org.uk FreeBSD Translation Teams Bcc'd (so that they don't get caught up in people doing "group replies" unless they want to) to ache@freebsd.org Andrey Chernov, listed as being responsible for "Internationalization" in the FreeBSD Handbook. terry@lambert.org Terry Lambert. My addled brain recalls that Terry's occasionally posted messages about i18n and l10n issues to the FreeBSD mailing lists, and I thought he might have useful input to make. To Andrey and Terry; I'd be particularly interested in your thoughts about the sense and viability of organising the documentation by language and character set encoding that I outline here. ] This is an attempt to put down all my thoughts about my plans for an FDP directory reorganisation down so they can be critiqued. Comments welcome to the mailing list please. _________________________________________________________________ Overview The FreeBSD Documentation Project (FDP) directory structure has grown haphazardly over time. This was tolerable when the FDP repository only contained English versions of the documentation. However, as more translations are added to the repository it becomes important to have a consistent directory naming scheme followed by each translation. A consistent directory naming scheme will make it easier to write software that can automatically process FDP documentation without needing to be configured as to exactly where that documentation is in the tree; automated tools will be able to deduce this. Moving existant content that conflicts with this scheme will make automated tools simpler, as they will not need to handle exceptions to the rules. Finally, a consistent approach is much easier to document and to learn. Anything that can reduce the learning curve required before people can contribute to the FDP is a good thing. _________________________________________________________________ Current situation At the time of writing, the doc/ repository contains the following directories (ignoring empty directories); doc/ FAQ/ en/ handbook/ tutorials/ docproj-primer/ fonts/ ... share/ sgml/ es/ FAQ/ ja/ FAQ/ handbook/ man/ ru/ FAQ/ share/ sgml/ mk/ zh/ FAQ/ There are a number of anomalies and potential problems with this structure. It also gets a few things right. * doc/FAQ is out of place. It is the English version of the FreeBSD FAQ, and is a holdover from when the repository only contained the English documentation. * The English tutorials are one level lower in the tree than the English Handbook. Any commands to process the documentation that rely on relative paths will need to ensure that this is compensated for before running the command. See the current DOC_PREFIX kludge for an example of this. * Some of the documentation in tutorials/ should not be considered to be tutorials. A more neutral term would better describe the content. * No attempt is made to specify the character set used to write the documentation. While this is not a problem for the English translation, other languages, such as Japanese, Korean, and Chinese, have multiple character sets that could be used to encode the documentation. Some way of differentiating between these character sets should be provided, as should a mechanism for allowing multiple translations to the same language differing only in the choice of character set. * There is a proposed plan to split the Handbook up, and replace it with a number of smaller books with a tighter focus. The existing layout does not support this approach at all. * The use of share/ directories to contain files that are language neutral (in the first case) or can be used by all translations to a specific language (in the second case) is a good idea. _________________________________________________________________ The change Migrate to a new directory structure that follows this layout; doc/ / / articles/ fonts/ ... books/ FAQ/ FDP-primer/ printing/ ... man/ ... share/ sgml/ share/ ... share/ sgml/ ... mk/ ... There are two top level directories. represents the language code, as we currently use it. The language codes are defined in ISO639, which can be found in /usr/share/misc/iso639 on a relatively recent FreeBSD system. The second top level directory is share/, which will contain language neutral files. Under each directory is at least one directory named after the character set encoding used. This approach will be followed even if there is only one character set that could be considered ``standard'' for that language. I understand that for some languages (such as English) this introduces an additional directory where one is not strictly needed. However, this will ensure that the SGML source files are kept at the same level in the directory tree relative to one another. This helps avoid ambiguities with relative paths, and the need to special-case between languages that have multiple possible character sets, and languages that need only one character set. After all, a language with one character set is just a subset of a language that can be encoded in multiple character sets. There might also be a share/ directory at this level as well, to contain files that can be shared by all translations to this language, regardless of character set. Below the directory the documentation is categorised further. There are three categories that each document might be in; articles/ An article is a short piece of documentation (although ``short'' is a relative term). In general, if the documentation does not contain any chapters then it is an article, and should be placed in a subdirectory of this directory. ``article'' is a neutral term that does not convey information about about the nature of the information contained within the article (unlike ``tutorials''). Examples of existing documentation that would fall in to this category are; + Using FreeBSD with other Operating Systems + ``Making the world'' your own + This document. books/ Books are longer sets of documentation, characterised by their organisation in to multiple chapters. Examples of existing documentation that would fall in to this category are; + FreeBSD FAQ + FreeBSD Handbook + FDP Primer man/ The system manual pages, translated to the target language. While it is feasible that the English manual pages could move out of the src/ repository and in to doc/, I don't see this actually happening any time soon (certainly not within my life time). The historical pressure to keep them in src/ is too great. share/ Content that can be shared between different documentation, but is language and character set specific. For example, as a translation team translates the documentation there will be sections that haven't been translated yet. You can put the translation of the phrase ``This section has not been translated yet'' into a file in this directory, and then use a general entity to include it in all the documentation where it is necessary. So, there are three levels of shared content between the language projects; content that is shared globally (doc/share/), content that is specific to a particular language (doc//share/), and content that is specific to a particular language and character set encoding (doc///share/). Each one of these share/ directories can (and will) contain subdirectories. share/sgml/ for SGML content, share/mk/ for includeable Makefiles, and so on. Based on the current doc/, the converted directory structure will look like this. doc/ en/ share/ sgml/ iso8859-1/ articles/ writing-device-drivers/ programming-tools/ formatting-media/ ... books/ FAQ/ FDP-primer/ handbook/ ... share/ sgml/ ja/ share/ sgml/ euc-jp/ books/ FAQ/ handbook/ ... man/ ... share/ sgml/ zh/ share/ sgml/ big5/ books/ FAQ/ share/ sgml gb/ books/ FAQ/ share/ sgml fr/ share/ sgml/ iso8859-1/ books/ handbook/ share/ sgml share/ sgml/ mk/ I don't know everthing I need to know about i18n and l10n yet, so there may be some problems with the above example. For example, is euc-jp the correct name to use for a character set, or is there a more precise term for it (perhaps an ISO number?) that should be used instead? _________________________________________________________________ Making the change This is quite a large change, and will need careful thought about how to carry it out. In particular, we want to avoid bloating the CVS repository any more than we have to. How files are moved will depend on their current DTD. All documentation that is already marked up according to the DocBook DTD (and the manual pages) can be moved within the repository by the repository managers (Peter Wemm and John Polstra). Some of the Makefiles will then need small changes made to them to reflect the directory names, but that should be about all. All documentation that is marked up according to the LinuxDoc DTD is treated differently. The original files are left where they are. Then, when the documentation is converted to DocBook the original LinuxDoc files are left, and the new DocBook files will be stored in the new directories as appropriate. We will then have two versions of the document in the repository, one marked up in LinuxDoc, one in DocBook. The Makefiles can continue to point to the LinuxDoc version until the DocBook conversion has completed. When the DocBook conversion has been completed the LinuxDoc version can be removed. The conversion will be complete when the last piece of LinuxDoc documentation has been removed from the tree. _________________________________________________________________ Additional resources I've found the following links useful while trying to find out more information about i18n and l10n. http://czyborra.com/charsets/ Lots of information about different character sets, the iso8859* characters, and so on. http://www.ora.com/people/authors/lunde/cjk_inf.html The Chinese, Japanese, Korean information page has lots of information about how to encode these languages. http://www.vlsivie.tuwien.ac.at/mike/8bit/FAQ-ISO-8859-1 The ISO8859-1 FAQ contains useful inforamtion. -- There's some milk in the fridge about to go off. . . and there it goes. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu May 13 14:48:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1605815200; Thu, 13 May 1999 14:48:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) id VAA76266; Thu, 13 May 1999 21:48:22 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 21:48:22 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Kevin Lo Cc: John Baldwin , nclayton@lehman.com, faq@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DocBook DTD's for 3.0 and 3.1 Message-ID: <19990513214822.A73230@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <37392BC0.FE57FB8D@hello.com.tw> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <37392BC0.FE57FB8D@hello.com.tw>; from Kevin Lo on Wed, May 12, 1999 at 03:20:32PM +0800 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, May 12, 1999 at 03:20:32PM +0800, Kevin Lo wrote: > IMO, I think we can start migrating it right now. > I'm currently writing new entries and looking at the order of entries > in their sections in the FAQ, reordering the sections in the proper order. OK. For the moment, please hold on converting the FAQ to DocBook. As you should've seen I've just sent out what is hopefully the final proposal for the doc/* directory structure. I'll give it a couple of days for the discussion about that to happen (more if it's an active discussion). Say, by Sunday. Assuming people are in agreement, I'll lay down the LINUXDOC_2_DOCBOOK* tags on the FAQ, and kickstart the conversion to DocBook. At the same time as this, the FAQ team can be revising the FAQ. However, remember the golden rule. Do not make content changes at the same time as you make formatting changes. Do them in two separate commits instead. This will make it much easier for myself and the language translation teams to track what you're doing. The FAQ conversion can then happen. The FAQ is a much simpler document than the Handbook, so it shouldn't take the year or so that the Handbook took :-) N -- There's some milk in the fridge about to go off. . . and there it goes. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu May 13 14:52:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A286B15200; Thu, 13 May 1999 14:52:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) id WAA80543; Thu, 13 May 1999 22:21:40 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 22:21:40 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Jesus Rodriguez Cc: "Kenneth D. Merry" , cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, Jesus Rodriguez Cuesta , doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: doc/en/handbook/install chapter.sgml Message-ID: <19990513222140.B79207@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <199905121330.HAA02457@panzer.plutotech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: ; from Jesus Rodriguez on Wed, May 12, 1999 at 03:49:22PM +0200 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, May 12, 1999 at 03:49:22PM +0200, Jesus Rodriguez wrote: > >> Pointed by: olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de > > > > Sorry about that! > > > > That may be the last time I go mucking around with SGML. > > No problem... this is the first time i fix something not broken for myself :-) Chortle. There's a "validate" target in the standard DocBook Makefile now, so you can do % cd /path/to/doc/en/handbook % make DOC_PREFIX=../.. validate nsgmls -s ... and if you get no other output then it's valid SGML. This is a little less resource intensive than having to run Jade. N -- There's some milk in the fridge about to go off. . . and there it goes. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu May 13 17:20: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 229C814FFB for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 17:20:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id RAA74838; Thu, 13 May 1999 17:20:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mortis.futuresouth.com (mortis.futuresouth.com [209.45.228.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FFB214E38 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 17:10:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fullermd@over-yonder.net) Received: by mortis.futuresouth.com (Postfix, from userid 100) id 7C6271F09; Thu, 13 May 1999 19:10:58 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <19990514001058.7C6271F09@mortis.futuresouth.com> Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 19:10:58 -0500 (CDT) From: fullermd@over-yonder.net To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/11702: pnp(4) references dset(8) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11702 >Category: docs >Synopsis: pnp(4) references dset(8) >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu May 13 17:20:00 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Matthew D. Fuller >Release: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: >Environment: Generic 4.0 >Description: pnp(4) references dset(8) in two places; this should be kget(8) in current system (3.1 inclusive I believe) >How-To-Repeat: man 4 pnp >Fix: Index: pnp.4 =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/cvs/src/share/man/man4/man4.i386/pnp.4,v retrieving revision 1.2 diff -u -r1.2 pnp.4 --- pnp.4 1998/03/12 07:30:36 1.2 +++ pnp.4 1999/05/14 00:07:40 @@ -100,7 +100,7 @@ .Pp Modifications to the table will be saved to the boot image on the filesystem by the -.Xr dset 8 +.Xr kget 8 command. .Pp .Sh DEVICE DRIVER SUPPORT FOR PnP @@ -164,7 +164,7 @@ .El .Pp .Sh SEE ALSO -.Xr dset 8 +.Xr kget 8 .Sh BUGS There is no support for visual configuration of PnP devices. It would be nice to have commands in userconfig to fetch the >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu May 13 19:30: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD5AB1541E for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 19:30:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id TAA83555; Thu, 13 May 1999 19:30:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from strike.velocet.ca (strike.velocet.ca [209.167.225.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7F6D14BE7 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 19:28:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dgilbert@strike.velocet.ca) Received: (from root@localhost) by strike.velocet.ca (8.9.2/8.9.2) id WAA21574; Thu, 13 May 1999 22:28:13 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dgilbert) Message-Id: <199905140228.WAA21574@strike.velocet.ca> Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 22:28:13 -0400 (EDT) From: David Gilbert Reply-To: dgilbert@velocet.ca To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/11704: Bug in time2posix man page. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11704 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Missing subject of 2nd sentence of third paragraph of time2posix(3) >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu May 13 19:30:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: David Gilbert >Release: FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE i386 >Organization: Velocet Communications >Environment: FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE >Description: Sentence reads: However, gives an arithmetic expression for directly computing a time_t value from a given date/time, and the same relationship is assumed by >How-To-Repeat: man time2posix >Fix: Obviously, needs a subject or even a clear anticeedant :). (sic) >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu May 13 19:50: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D01491543F for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 19:50:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id TAA84716; Thu, 13 May 1999 19:50:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from istari.home.net (cc158233-a.catv1.md.home.com [24.3.25.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F82A1535C for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 19:44:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sjr@home.net) Received: (from sjr@localhost) by istari.home.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA05978; Thu, 13 May 1999 22:44:41 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from sjr) Message-Id: <199905140244.WAA05978@istari.home.net> Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 22:44:41 -0400 (EDT) From: sjr@home.net Reply-To: sjr@home.net To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/11705: rc.conf man page error Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11705 >Category: docs >Synopsis: rc.conf man page error >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu May 13 19:50:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Stephen J. Roznowski >Release: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: >Environment: Running 4.0-CURRENT from 2 May. $Id: rc.conf.5,v 1.30 1999/03/29 17:22:47 jfitz Exp $ >Description: When formatting the rc.conf man page an error is reported. >How-To-Repeat: Make sure that /usr/share/man/cat5/rc.conf.5.gz doesn't exist then "man rc.conf" and the following is output: Formatting page, please wait...Unknown FreeBSD version ``2.2.2'' at line 29 >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu May 13 22:31:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69BEB15455; Thu, 13 May 1999 22:31:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkoshy@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from jkoshy@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id WAA96866; Thu, 13 May 1999 22:31:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkoshy@FreeBSD.org) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 22:31:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199905140531.WAA96866@freefall.freebsd.org> To: fullermd@over-yonder.net, jkoshy@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/11702: pnp(4) references dset(8) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: pnp(4) references dset(8) State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: jkoshy State-Changed-When: Thu May 13 22:31:08 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Patch committed, thanks! rev 1.3 of "src/share/man/man4/man4.i386/pnp.4". To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri May 14 0: 8:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2CBF153BA; Fri, 14 May 1999 00:08:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkoshy@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from jkoshy@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id AAA04388; Fri, 14 May 1999 00:08:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkoshy@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 00:08:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199905140708.AAA04388@freefall.freebsd.org> To: sjr@home.net, jkoshy@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/11705: rc.conf man page error Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: rc.conf man page error State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: jkoshy State-Changed-When: Fri May 14 00:04:01 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Fixed in rev 1.14 of "src/contrib/groff/tmac/doc-common". 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------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BE9E2A.49C1B840-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri May 14 7: 0: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D57F41509E for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 07:00:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id HAA81961; Fri, 14 May 1999 07:00:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mortis.futuresouth.com (mortis.futuresouth.com [209.45.228.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E049A15054 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 06:55:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fullermd@over-yonder.net) Received: by mortis.futuresouth.com (Postfix, from userid 100) id B77231F09; Fri, 14 May 1999 08:55:35 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <19990514135535.B77231F09@mortis.futuresouth.com> Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 08:55:35 -0500 (CDT) From: fullermd@over-yonder.net To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/11708: dumpon(8) references old device names Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11708 >Category: docs >Synopsis: dumpon(8) references old device names >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri May 14 07:00:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Matthew D. Fuller >Release: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: >Environment: Post-CAM >Description: dumpon(8) references pre-CAM device naming, now incorrent. >How-To-Repeat: man 8 dumpon >Fix: Index: dumpon.8 =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/cvs/src/sbin/dumpon/dumpon.8,v retrieving revision 1.9 diff -u -r1.9 dumpon.8 --- dumpon.8 1998/08/31 16:41:06 1.9 +++ dumpon.8 1999/05/14 13:53:10 @@ -106,8 +106,8 @@ .Xr swapon 8 , .Xr panic 9 .Sh FILES -.Bl -tag -width /dev/[ws]d?b -compact -.It Pa /dev/[ws]d?b +.Bl -tag -width /dev/{wd,da}?b -compact +.It Pa /dev/{wd,da}?b standard swap areas .It Pa /etc/rc.conf boot-time system configuration >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri May 14 7:10:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75428155B6 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 07:10:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id HAA96720; Fri, 14 May 1999 07:10:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mortis.futuresouth.com (mortis.futuresouth.com [209.45.228.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C65291541E for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 07:02:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fullermd@over-yonder.net) Received: by mortis.futuresouth.com (Postfix, from userid 100) id 418111F09; Fri, 14 May 1999 09:02:05 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <19990514140205.418111F09@mortis.futuresouth.com> Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 09:02:05 -0500 (CDT) From: fullermd@over-yonder.net To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/11709: swapon(8) references strange devices Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11709 >Category: docs >Synopsis: swapon(8) references strange devices >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri May 14 07:10:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Matthew D. Fuller >Release: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: >Environment: Irrelevant >Description: swapon(8) has some strange device references. Under the 'FILES' section, the following appears: /dev/[ru][pk]?b standard paging devices >How-To-Repeat: man 8 swapon >Fix: I'm not sure. I don't know what /dev/[ru][pk]?b ARE, so I can't be sure they're wrong, though I don't have any such devices on my system. Presuming that it should be the 'normal' swap partitions (a quite possibly flawed assumption), the appended patch will match it up. Else, Something Should Be Done (tm) to bring it more into line with reality. Though the fact that it's lasted this long without being pegged by somebody is a sign (maybe that nobody ever reads it ;) Index: swapon.8 =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/cvs/src/sbin/swapon/swapon.8,v retrieving revision 1.10 diff -u -r1.10 swapon.8 --- swapon.8 1998/08/03 06:35:01 1.10 +++ swapon.8 1999/05/14 13:59:36 @@ -76,8 +76,8 @@ .Xr rc 8 , .Xr vnconfig 8 .Sh FILES -.Bl -tag -width /dev/[ru][pk]?b -compact -.It Pa /dev/[ru][pk]?b +.Bl -tag -width /dev/{wd,da}?b -compact +.It Pa /dev/{wd,da}?b standard paging devices .It Pa /etc/fstab ascii filesystem description table >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri May 14 7:41:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from deep-thought.demos.su (deep-thought.demos.su [194.87.1.76]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADBA614F43 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 07:40:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ache@deep-thought.demos.su) Received: (from ache@localhost) by deep-thought.demos.su (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA42464; Fri, 14 May 1999 18:40:47 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from ache) Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 18:40:47 +0400 From: "Andrey A. Chernov" To: The FreeBSD Russian Team Documentation Project Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-translate@ngo.org.uk Subject: Re: [RU-DOC] FDP Directory Reorganization Message-ID: <19990514184047.A42402@nagual.pp.ru> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: ; from phantom@crimea.edu on Fri, May 14, 1999 at 11:57:33AM +0400 Organization: Biomechanoid Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > / > / It is non-convinient from a program point of view for online-available (non-WWW) documentation. Better variant will be whole LANG variable as specified in the environment, i.e. lang.charset > man/ > ... Especially for "man" hierarchy which not belongs here at all. I plan to make changes in the man program to automatically add LANG to manpath, i.e. something like /usr/share/man/ru_RU.KOI8-R/ /usr/local/man/ru_RU.KOI8-R/ etc. I treat national man packages as optional, but installed in the _system_ tree as final destination, so their repository (for WWW browsing ability) can stay under doc CVS, but they must be additionally packaged and instaled in base system after I fix man. -- Andrey A. Chernov http://nagual.pp.ru/~ache/ MTH/SH/HE S-- W-- N+ PEC>+ D A a++ C G>+ QH+(++) 666+>++ Y To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri May 14 11:25:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from hp9000.chc-chimes.com (hp9000.chc-chimes.com [206.67.97.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B520B14CFE for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 11:25:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billf@chc-chimes.com) Received: from localhost by hp9000.chc-chimes.com with SMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA296601092; Fri, 14 May 1999 10:11:32 -0400 Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 10:11:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Fumerola To: =?gb2312?B?s8LlsA==?= Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: <000801be9de7$4eb5dc20$fee2670a@chenhao> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 14 May 1999, [gb2312] =B3=C2=E5=B0 wrote: > how are you >=20 > my question is "how to fix kernel" >=20 > please reply me quickly Thank you for brightening my day. Whenever I think I'm stupid and can't figure something out, I'll read this e-mail, repeatedly. - bill fumerola - billf@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfumerol@computerhorizons.com - billf@FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri May 14 11:31:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail-gw3adm.rcsntx.swbell.net (mail-gw3.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 915DC14D10 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 11:31:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@holly.dyndns.org) Received: from holly.dyndns.org (ppp-207-193-15-19.hstntx.swbell.net [207.193.15.19]) by mail-gw3adm.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA24432 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 13:31:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA41144 for doc@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 14 May 1999 13:33:13 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from chris) Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 13:33:13 -0500 From: Chris Costello To: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Handbook patches - to be committed? Message-ID: <19990514133312.A41124@holly.dyndns.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org To keep the handbook up with the actual things it applies to, I've sent in several patches against the handbook, but they have not yet been committed. Those PRs are: docs/11150, docs/11153, docs/11182, docs/11184, docs/11190, docs/11215 Perhaps somebody might want to look at them, and hopefully commit them. Thanks! -- Chris Costello Every program is either trivial or it contains at least one bug. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri May 14 12:45:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from proxy.tsumura.co.jp (proxy.tsumura.co.jp [202.215.211.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F76514D82 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 12:45:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from woll231@jboy.com) Received: from 202.215.211.2 by proxy.tsumura.co.jp (8.8.8+2.7Wbeta7/3.6W) with SMTP id EAA04199; Sat, 15 May 1999 04:34:07 +0900 (JST) From: woll231@jboy.com Date: Fri, 14 May 99 12:50:07 EST To: jone@worldnet.att.net Subject: WCollect.com Brings $3 Million in Limited Edition Books Message-ID: <359DFE77.4AC9@erols.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org StockNetworking News SNN If you are not a subscriber and received this issue of SNN in error please see how to unsubscribe below. We are enclosing the latest WCollect.com (WCLT) News Release. May 13, 1999 Company Press Release WCollect.com Joins With Oldest Collectible Book Club to Bring $3 Million in Limited Edition Books and Related Art Online NEW YORK--(BUSINESS WIRE)--May 13, 1999--WCollect.com (OTC BB:WCLT), a unique, e-commerce site specializing exclusively in offering authentic collectibles and entertainment memorabilia online has recently entered into a significant relationship with The Limited Editions Club, the oldest collectible book club in the United States. This affiliation, with Club owner Sid Shiff, will bring a $3 million dollar collection of limited edition books and artwork to a broader base of collectors who wish to purchase the ultimate in collectible books online. For seventy years, Picasso, Cartier-Bresson, Matisse, Ellsworth Kelly, deKooning, Motherwell, Balthus, Mapplethorpe and Elizabeth Catlett provided original prints to illustrate books by Bronte, Maya Angelou, Ezra Pound, Octavio Paz, Langston Hughes, Samuel Beckett and others for The Limited Editions Club. These highly collectible books and prints, originally created exclusively for members of The Limited Editions Club, can be found in the Museum of Modern Art and in the homes of some of the world's most selective collectors. The books are all signed and numbered and most editions are limited to 300 copies. Book's range in price from $1,000 to $10,000, with limited sets of artist prints from $3,000 to $80,000. Limited Editions Club books are not only visually spectacular but have become excellent investments. According to Carol Grossman, in the March, 1999 issue of BIBLIO, ``Jacob Lawrence's Genesis, in an edition of 400 brings at least $3,500, up nearly five times from the original price. The Season in Hell, with photogravures by Mapplethorpe and a print run of 1,000 now brings $2,500. The recent edition of Ezra Pound's Cathay illustrated by Clemente and originally issued at $1,250, now sells in the $3,000 range.'' Investments were not what led Sid Shiff, former Wall Street Banker, to take over one of the oldest limited editions book clubs in the United States. It was his love for collectible art and ``great books'' that has put him into the unique position to create sumptuous books illustrated, with original artwork, that sell for thousands of dollars to his club members. WCollect.com is proud to now offer these highly unique and limited editions to online collectors. By focusing on exclusive and authenticated items and commissioned products in a virtually untapped niche market, and with the explosion of growth in the arena of collectibles and memorabilia, WCollect.com is primed to become the premier online destination for fine art and entertainment collectibles. According to Shiff, ``our affiliation with WCollect.com offers us the opportunity to bring our unique books and artwork to a much broader range of potential collectors. The Wcollect.com site also lowers our marketing and customer acquisition costs while placing us under a brand name that collectors can trust.'' The relationship is another in a series of recent high power alliances between traditional retail store owners, dealers and collectors. WCollect.com the a virtual online marketplace specializing in authentic works of art, rare and collectible books, sports and entertainment and memorabilia is publicly trading under the symbol WCLT on the NASDAQ OTC BB. 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SNN copyright SNN 1999 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri May 14 14:53:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from proxy.tsumura.co.jp (proxy.tsumura.co.jp [202.215.211.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B02C151EB for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 14:53:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from woll231@jboy.com) Received: from 202.215.211.2 by proxy.tsumura.co.jp (8.8.8+2.7Wbeta7/3.6W) with SMTP id GAA12934; Sat, 15 May 1999 06:41:47 +0900 (JST) From: woll231@jboy.com Date: Fri, 14 May 99 15:38:24 EST To: jone@worldnet.att.net Subject: WCollect.com Brings $3 Million in Limited Edition Books Message-ID: <359DFE77.4AC9@erols.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org StockNetworking News SNN If you are not a subscriber and received this issue of SNN in error please see how to unsubscribe below. We are enclosing the latest WCollect.com (WCLT) News Release. May 13, 1999 Company Press Release WCollect.com Joins With Oldest Collectible Book Club to Bring $3 Million in Limited Edition Books and Related Art Online NEW YORK--(BUSINESS WIRE)--May 13, 1999--WCollect.com (OTC BB:WCLT), a unique, e-commerce site specializing exclusively in offering authentic collectibles and entertainment memorabilia online has recently entered into a significant relationship with The Limited Editions Club, the oldest collectible book club in the United States. This affiliation, with Club owner Sid Shiff, will bring a $3 million dollar collection of limited edition books and artwork to a broader base of collectors who wish to purchase the ultimate in collectible books online. For seventy years, Picasso, Cartier-Bresson, Matisse, Ellsworth Kelly, deKooning, Motherwell, Balthus, Mapplethorpe and Elizabeth Catlett provided original prints to illustrate books by Bronte, Maya Angelou, Ezra Pound, Octavio Paz, Langston Hughes, Samuel Beckett and others for The Limited Editions Club. These highly collectible books and prints, originally created exclusively for members of The Limited Editions Club, can be found in the Museum of Modern Art and in the homes of some of the world's most selective collectors. The books are all signed and numbered and most editions are limited to 300 copies. Book's range in price from $1,000 to $10,000, with limited sets of artist prints from $3,000 to $80,000. Limited Editions Club books are not only visually spectacular but have become excellent investments. According to Carol Grossman, in the March, 1999 issue of BIBLIO, ``Jacob Lawrence's Genesis, in an edition of 400 brings at least $3,500, up nearly five times from the original price. The Season in Hell, with photogravures by Mapplethorpe and a print run of 1,000 now brings $2,500. The recent edition of Ezra Pound's Cathay illustrated by Clemente and originally issued at $1,250, now sells in the $3,000 range.'' Investments were not what led Sid Shiff, former Wall Street Banker, to take over one of the oldest limited editions book clubs in the United States. It was his love for collectible art and ``great books'' that has put him into the unique position to create sumptuous books illustrated, with original artwork, that sell for thousands of dollars to his club members. WCollect.com is proud to now offer these highly unique and limited editions to online collectors. By focusing on exclusive and authenticated items and commissioned products in a virtually untapped niche market, and with the explosion of growth in the arena of collectibles and memorabilia, WCollect.com is primed to become the premier online destination for fine art and entertainment collectibles. According to Shiff, ``our affiliation with WCollect.com offers us the opportunity to bring our unique books and artwork to a much broader range of potential collectors. The Wcollect.com site also lowers our marketing and customer acquisition costs while placing us under a brand name that collectors can trust.'' The relationship is another in a series of recent high power alliances between traditional retail store owners, dealers and collectors. WCollect.com the a virtual online marketplace specializing in authentic works of art, rare and collectible books, sports and entertainment and memorabilia is publicly trading under the symbol WCLT on the NASDAQ OTC BB. 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Past performance of the stocks we have profiled does not reflect on future performance of featured stocks in SNN. SNN copyright SNN 1999 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri May 14 17:41:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07F8715025 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 17:41:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) id UAA43592; Fri, 14 May 1999 20:28:31 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 20:28:30 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Chris Costello Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Handbook patches - to be committed? Message-ID: <19990514202830.A43389@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19990514133312.A41124@holly.dyndns.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990514133312.A41124@holly.dyndns.org>; from Chris Costello on Fri, May 14, 1999 at 01:33:13PM -0500 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, May 14, 1999 at 01:33:13PM -0500, Chris Costello wrote: > To keep the handbook up with the actual things it applies to, > I've sent in several patches against the handbook, but they > have not yet been committed. Those PRs are: > > docs/11150, docs/11153, docs/11182, docs/11184, docs/11190, docs/11215 > > Perhaps somebody might want to look at them, and hopefully > commit them. If no one beats me to it, this is how I'll be spending my Saturday. . . N -- There's some milk in the fridge about to go off. . . and there it goes. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri May 14 17:42: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F043415217 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 17:42:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) id UAA45407; Fri, 14 May 1999 20:43:03 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 20:43:02 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: "Andrey A. Chernov" Cc: The FreeBSD Russian Team Documentation Project , doc@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-translate@ngo.org.uk Subject: Re: [RU-DOC] FDP Directory Reorganization Message-ID: <19990514204302.B43389@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19990514184047.A42402@nagual.pp.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990514184047.A42402@nagual.pp.ru>; from Andrey A. Chernov on Fri, May 14, 1999 at 06:40:47PM +0400 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, May 14, 1999 at 06:40:47PM +0400, Andrey A. Chernov wrote: > > / > > / > > It is non-convinient from a program point of view for online-available > (non-WWW) documentation. Better variant will be whole LANG variable as > specified in the environment, i.e. lang.charset Ah ha. I've just seen /usr/share/locale/, and the directory structures under there. Consider that adopted wholesale into the proposal (I wish I'd known about that a couple of weeks ago). That seems to be as close as we have got to a standard on FreeBSD, and I'm more than happy to adopt it. So it becomes something like doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/* articles/* ja_JP.EUC/books/* articles/* zh_BN.EUC/books/* articles/* zh_TW.BIG5/books/* articles/* and so on instead. Two questions. First, what do the _JP, _BN, and _TW signify? Could they be dropped from the name? I realise that the locale/ directory they allow you to differentiate between "Chinese (China)" and "Chinese (Taiwan)". But is that distinction useful for the documentation? Second, we used to have a doc/ja_JP.EUC/ directory, and it was removed in favour of a straight doc/ja/ directory. Why? It looks like this has been gone over at least once before in the past. I want to be sure I'm not repeating past mistakes. N -- There's some milk in the fridge about to go off. . . and there it goes. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri May 14 17:54: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from deep-thought.demos.su (deep-thought.demos.su [194.87.1.76]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A907D15025 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 17:53:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ache@deep-thought.demos.su) Received: (from ache@localhost) by deep-thought.demos.su (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA92162; Sat, 15 May 1999 04:53:42 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from ache) Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 04:53:36 +0400 From: "Andrey A. Chernov" To: Nik Clayton Cc: The FreeBSD Russian Team Documentation Project , doc@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-translate@ngo.org.uk Subject: Re: [RU-DOC] FDP Directory Reorganization Message-ID: <19990515045334.A89897@nagual.pp.ru> References: <19990514184047.A42402@nagual.pp.ru> <19990514204302.B43389@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990514204302.B43389@catkin.nothing-going-on.org>; from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk on Fri, May 14, 1999 at 08:43:02PM +0100 Organization: Biomechanoid Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, May 14, 1999 at 08:43:02PM +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: > First, what do the _JP, _BN, and _TW signify? Could they be dropped from > the name? I realise that the locale/ directory they allow you to > differentiate between "Chinese (China)" and "Chinese (Taiwan)". But is > that distinction useful for the documentation? _. I.e. American English can use different phrases than British English. I don't know is it really affects docs for particular countries. > Second, we used to have a doc/ja_JP.EUC/ directory, and it was removed in > favour of a straight doc/ja/ directory. Why? It looks like this has been > gone over at least once before in the past. I want to be sure I'm not > repeating past mistakes. I mean only one special case where the docs are accessed online by some program with language autoselection depending on current locale settings. Possible variants are "man" and "info" f.e. For all other cases (WWW browsing and such) structure you suggest are applicable. -- Andrey A. Chernov http://nagual.pp.ru/~ache/ MTH/SH/HE S-- W-- N+ PEC>+ D A a++ C G>+ QH+(++) 666+>++ Y To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri May 14 18:30: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC68A14FF0 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 18:30:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id SAA52090; Fri, 14 May 1999 18:30:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com [24.2.89.207]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC64214D63 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 18:21:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cjc@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com) Received: (from cjc@localhost) by cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) id VAA20596; Fri, 14 May 1999 21:21:33 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cjc) Message-Id: <199905150121.VAA20596@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com> Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 21:21:33 -0400 (EDT) From: "Crist J. Clark" Reply-To: cjc@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/11716: Typo in www.freebsd.org/handbook/ports-troubleshooting.html Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11716 >Category: docs >Synopsis: "pkg_add(1)" appears as "pkg.add(1)" >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri May 14 18:30:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Crist J. Clark >Release: FreeBSD 2.2.8-STABLE i386 >Organization: >Environment: FreeBSD webpages >Description: The Handbook page, http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/ports-troubleshooting.html tells users to "Use the pkg.add(1) program..." This should read "pkg_add(1)." >How-To-Repeat: Read the page, http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/ports-troubleshooting.html (Note: this is error does not seem to exist in the Handbook that I have from my 3.1-RELEASE.) >Fix: *** ports-troubleshooting.html Fri May 14 21:10:38 1999 --- ports-troubleshooting.html.orig Fri May 14 21:09:52 1999 *************** *** 83,89 **** work (on the whole) than trying to compile from source and a lot faster besides! Use the ! pkg_add(1) program to install a package file on your system.

--- 83,89 ---- work (on the whole) than trying to compile from source and a lot faster besides! Use the ! pkg.add(1) program to install a package file on your system.

>Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri May 14 18:33:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pluto.plutotech.com (mail.plutotech.com [206.168.67.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5FB014EE3 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 18:33:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kelly@plutotech.com) Received: from plutotech.com (kelly@tampopo.plutotech.com [206.168.67.161]) by pluto.plutotech.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA30588; Fri, 14 May 1999 19:33:49 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from kelly@plutotech.com) Message-ID: <373CCEFD.3ACA4B42@plutotech.com> Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 19:33:49 -0600 From: Sean Kelly X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.1-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Costello Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Handbook patches - to be committed? References: <19990514133312.A41124@holly.dyndns.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > To keep the handbook up with the actual things it applies to, > I've sent in several patches against the handbook, but they > have not yet been committed. Those PRs are: ... Perhaps someone might get around to docs/8547, which includes easy-to-apply patches, which I submitted back in 2nov98 ... :-) --Sean To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri May 14 18:40: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDBA1154AC for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 18:40:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id SAA52509; Fri, 14 May 1999 18:40:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 18:40:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905150140.SAA52509@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: From: Chris Costello Subject: Re: docs/11716: Typo in www.freebsd.org/handbook/ports-troubleshooting.html Reply-To: Chris Costello Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/11716; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Chris Costello To: "Crist J. Clark" Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/11716: Typo in www.freebsd.org/handbook/ports-troubleshooting.html Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 20:40:22 -0500 On Fri, May 14, 1999, Crist J. Clark wrote: > >Fix: A more proper fix: Index: man-refs.ent =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/share/sgml/man-refs.ent,v retrieving revision 1.4 diff -u -r1.4 man-refs.ent --- man-refs.ent 1999/05/04 05:12:09 1.4 +++ man-refs.ent 1999/05/15 01:38:55 @@ -35,8 +35,8 @@ - - + + > > >Release-Note: > >Audit-Trail: > >Unformatted: > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message -- Chris Costello "#define QUESTION ((bb) || !(bb)) - Shakespeare." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri May 14 18:42:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from sife.swau.edu (sife.swau.edu [205.165.192.110]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EF7215459 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 18:42:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from franky@sife.swau.edu) Received: from localhost (franky@localhost) by sife.swau.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id UAA06780 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 20:48:11 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from franky@sife.swau.edu) Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 20:48:11 -0500 (CDT) From: Franky Effendy To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: I would like to contribute documents Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org How do I contribute documents ...? this is one of the document that I would like to share ..... Apache configuration under FreeBSD peace Franky To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri May 14 23:13:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from alice.gba.oz.au (gba-254.tmx.com.au [203.9.155.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3EA7B14D27 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 23:13:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gjb-freebsd@gba.oz.au) Received: (qmail 27874 invoked by uid 1001); 15 May 1999 05:31:46 -0000 Message-ID: <19990515053146.27873.qmail@alice.gba.oz.au> X-Posted-By: GBA-Post 1.03 20-Sep-1998 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 5A91 6942 8CEA 9DAB B95B C249 1CE1 493B 2B5A CE30 Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 15:31:46 +1000 From: Greg Black To: Nik Clayton Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FDP Directory Reorganisation References: <19990513211458.B70767@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> In-reply-to: <19990513211458.B70767@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> of Thu, 13 May 1999 21:14:58 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Migrate to a new directory structure that follows this layout; > doc/ > / > / > articles/ > fonts/ > ... > books/ > FAQ/ > FDP-primer/ > printing/ > ... > man/ > ... > share/ > sgml/ > share/ > ... > share/ > sgml/ > ... > mk/ > ... Speaking from the perspective of somebody who is new to FreeBSD (but who expects to be here for the long haul), I find a problem with the distinction between "articles" and "books" -- as I read the proposal, the only distinction between these directories is that "books" are longer. To me, this is an artificial distinction. If all the "books" and "articles" are a similar set of documents -- some longer and some shorter, some more tutorial and some less so -- then surely they could all live in one directory as this would make the task of finding the document that you wanted much simpler. I quite understand the intention behind this reorganisation, but I fear that it may go too far in complexity if the "articles" and "books" distinction is retained. Of course, the underlying issue may be that there are too many entries to work well in a single directory. If that is the case, then surely it would be better to divide it up by some kind of topic-based plan. -- Greg Black To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri May 14 23:29:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from gw.caamora.com.au (jonath5.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.41.237]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C72A14BE6 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 23:29:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jon@gw.caamora.com.au) Received: (from jon@localhost) by gw.caamora.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA27276; Sat, 15 May 1999 16:29:14 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from jon) Message-ID: <19990515162914.A27132@caamora.com.au> Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 16:29:14 +1000 From: jonathan michaels To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FDP Directory Reorganisation Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG References: <19990513211458.B70767@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <19990515053146.27873.qmail@alice.gba.oz.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <19990515053146.27873.qmail@alice.gba.oz.au>; from Greg Black on Sat, May 15, 1999 at 03:31:46PM +1000 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD gw.caamora.com.au 2.2.7-RELEASE i386 X-Mood: i'm alive, if it counts Organisation: Caamora, PO Box 144, Rosebery NSW 1445 Australia Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, May 15, 1999 at 03:31:46PM +1000, Greg Black wrote: > > Migrate to a new directory structure that follows this layout; > > doc/ > > / > > / > Speaking from the perspective of somebody who is new to FreeBSD > (but who expects to be here for the long haul), I find a problem > with the distinction between "articles" and "books" -- as I read > the proposal, the only distinction between these directories is > that "books" are longer. makes sence to me. > To me, this is an artificial distinction. If all the "books" > and "articles" are a similar set of documents -- some longer and .removed. > better to divide it up by some kind of topic-based plan. wouldn't this be a better prosition ? regards jonathan -- =============================================================================== Jonathan Michaels PO Box 144, Rosebery, NSW 1445 Australia =========================================================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat May 15 2:24:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76AAD14E67; Sat, 15 May 1999 02:24:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id CAA74423; Sat, 15 May 1999 02:24:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 02:24:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199905150924.CAA74423@freefall.freebsd.org> To: nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, nik@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/11150: [Patch] doc/en/handbook/security/chapters.sgml out of date Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: [Patch] doc/en/handbook/security/chapters.sgml out of date Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->nik Responsible-Changed-By: nik Responsible-Changed-When: Sat May 15 02:23:48 PDT 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: Grabbed it. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat May 15 2:24:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5E8B156F3; Sat, 15 May 1999 02:24:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id CAA74494; Sat, 15 May 1999 02:24:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 02:24:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199905150924.CAA74494@freefall.freebsd.org> To: nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, nik@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/11153: [Patch] en/handbook/ports/chapter.sgml is out of date Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: [Patch] en/handbook/ports/chapter.sgml is out of date Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->nik Responsible-Changed-By: nik Responsible-Changed-When: Sat May 15 02:24:14 PDT 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: Mine. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat May 15 2:24:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B4E514C25; Sat, 15 May 1999 02:24:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id CAA74574; Sat, 15 May 1999 02:24:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 02:24:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199905150924.CAA74574@freefall.freebsd.org> To: nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, nik@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/11182: [Patch] doc/en/handbook/kernelconfig/chapter.sgml amazingly out of date Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: [Patch] doc/en/handbook/kernelconfig/chapter.sgml amazingly out of date Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->nik Responsible-Changed-By: nik Responsible-Changed-When: Sat May 15 02:24:36 PDT 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: Mine too. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat May 15 2:25:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB1D214E79; Sat, 15 May 1999 02:25:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id CAA74654; Sat, 15 May 1999 02:25:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 02:25:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199905150925.CAA74654@freefall.freebsd.org> To: nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, nik@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/11184: [Patch] doc/en/handbook/eresources/chapter.sgml out of date Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: [Patch] doc/en/handbook/eresources/chapter.sgml out of date Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->nik Responsible-Changed-By: nik Responsible-Changed-When: Sat May 15 02:24:54 PDT 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: I wish there was a batch tool I could use to do these. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat May 15 2:25:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E136714CCB; Sat, 15 May 1999 02:25:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id CAA74727; Sat, 15 May 1999 02:25:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 02:25:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199905150925.CAA74727@freefall.freebsd.org> To: nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, nik@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/11190: [Patch] doc/en/handbook/introduction/chapter.sgml out of date Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: [Patch] doc/en/handbook/introduction/chapter.sgml out of date Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->nik Responsible-Changed-By: nik Responsible-Changed-When: Sat May 15 02:25:18 PDT 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: If Chris keeps doing this I'm going to try and get him committed. . . To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat May 15 2:26: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E834152E6; Sat, 15 May 1999 02:26:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id CAA74802; Sat, 15 May 1999 02:26:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 02:26:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199905150926.CAA74802@freefall.freebsd.org> To: nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, nik@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/11215: [Patch] doc/en/handbook/disks/chapter.sgml out of date Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: [Patch] doc/en/handbook/disks/chapter.sgml out of date Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->nik Responsible-Changed-By: nik Responsible-Changed-When: Sat May 15 02:25:51 PDT 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: Got it. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat May 15 2:26:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1224F14BDD; Sat, 15 May 1999 02:26:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id CAA74887; Sat, 15 May 1999 02:26:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 02:26:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199905150926.CAA74887@freefall.freebsd.org> To: nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, nik@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/8547: Various updates to authors.sgml, printing.sgml Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Various updates to authors.sgml, printing.sgml Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->nik Responsible-Changed-By: nik Responsible-Changed-When: Sat May 15 02:26:09 PDT 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: Shamed in to taking this be Sean's prompting. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat May 15 6:26:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.yk.rim.or.jp (mail.yk.rim.or.jp [202.247.130.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6141414E9D for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 06:26:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from k-horik@yk.rim.or.jp) Received: from localhost (ppp914.yk.rim.or.jp [202.247.185.165]) by mail.yk.rim.or.jp (8.8.8/3.6W-RIMNET-98-06-09) with ESMTP id WAA29327; Sat, 15 May 1999 22:26:00 +0900 (JST) To: nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk Cc: ache@nagual.pp.ru, ru-freebsd-doc@freebsd.ru, doc@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-translate@ngo.org.uk, hanai@jp.freebsd.org From: Kazuo Horikawa Subject: Re: [RU-DOC] FDP Directory Reorganization In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 14 May 1999 20:43:02 +0100" <19990514204302.B43389@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19990514204302.B43389@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.93 on Emacs 19.34 / Mule 2.3 (SUETSUMUHANA) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; boundary="--Next_Part(Sat_May_15_21:51:55_1999_518)--" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19990515222516E.k-horik@yk.rim.or.jp> Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 22:25:16 +0900 X-Dispatcher: imput version 980905(IM100) Lines: 360 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ----Next_Part(Sat_May_15_21:51:55_1999_518)-- Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Nik Clayton Subject: Re: [RU-DOC] FDP Directory Reorganization Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 20:43:02 +0100 > Two questions. > > First, what do the _JP, _BN, and _TW signify? Could they be dropped from > the name? I realise that the locale/ directory they allow you to > differentiate between "Chinese (China)" and "Chinese (Taiwan)". But is > that distinction useful for the documentation? > > Second, we used to have a doc/ja_JP.EUC/ directory, and it was removed in > favour of a straight doc/ja/ directory. Why? It looks like this has been > gone over at least once before in the past. I want to be sure I'm not > repeating past mistakes. Attached please find a discussion about ja versus ja_JP.EUC. # I did not make a digest of attached articles, in order to avoid # including my misunderstandings. Sorry! I personally think that `_JP' is not significant for Japanese documents (which exist in /doc/ja) and only `ja' is sufficient. -- Kazuo Horikawa ----Next_Part(Sat_May_15_21:51:55_1999_518)-- Content-Type: Message/Rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: from jaz.jp.freebsd.org (jaz.jp.freebsd.org [133.11.156.38]) by mail.yk.rim.or.jp (8.8.5/3.4Wbeta6-rim1.1) with ESMTP id VAA19133; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 21:00:38 +0900 (JST) Received: by jaz.jp.freebsd.org (8.8.8+3.0Wbeta7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA11378 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 21:00:35 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA06655; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 03:58:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc) Received: by hub.freebsd.org (bulk_mailer v1.6); Thu, 22 Jan 1998 03:58:27 -0800 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA06647 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 03:58:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hitiij.hitachi.co.jp (root@hitiij.hitachi.co.jp [133.145.224.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA06641; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 03:58:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from horikawa@isrd.hitachi.co.jp) Received: from isrdgw.isrd.hitachi.co.jp by hitiij.hitachi.co.jp (8.8.5+2.7Wbeta5/3.5W-hitiij) id UAA14043; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 20:48:01 +0900 (JST) Received: from [133.144.95.172] by isrdgw.isrd.hitachi.co.jp (8.6.9+2.4W/2.7W-ISRD) id UAA00594; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 20:57:47 +0900 Message-Id: <199801221157.UAA00594@isrdgw.isrd.hitachi.co.jp> To: jfieber@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, man-jp-core@jp.freebsd.org Subject: Re: Proposal to put Japanese online manuals into freefall CVS repository In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 15 Jan 1998 17:16:12 JST." <199801150816.RAA23004@mail.yk.rim.or.jp> Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 20:57:24 +0900 From: Kazuo HORIKAWA Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org X-UIDL: 7bf7b788c2e456d31adce14fba8d8ad6 Dear John Fieber, Is the proposal to import Japanese online manuals into CVS repository (doc/ja_JP.EUC/man) acceptable? I would like to ask you this question, because you are the Documentation Project Manager. P.S. I asked Satoshi Asami and Hiroyuki Hanai to be committers of Japanese online manuals if the proposal is accepted. They said OK. Best Regards, Kazuo Horikawa >>>>> Kazuo Horikawa wrote: > Hello. I am from the jpman project. We translate FreeBSD online > manuals into Japanese and distribute them. > Section 1 and 8 online manuals in Japanese, based on 2.2.2-RELEASE, > have been distributed through the "port" ja-man-doc-2.2.2. Now, we > want to distribute them through "freefall CVS repository", because > centralization of FreeBSD related information benefits FreeBSD users. > Please review attached proposal and give me suggestion. Thanks in > advance. ----Next_Part(Sat_May_15_21:51:55_1999_518)-- Content-Type: Message/Rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: from jaz.jp.freebsd.org (jaz.jp.freebsd.org [133.11.156.38]) by mail.yk.rim.or.jp (8.8.5/3.4Wbeta6-rim1.1) with ESMTP id AAA07357; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 00:04:06 +0900 (JST) Received: by jaz.jp.freebsd.org (8.8.8+3.0Wbeta7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA17916 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 00:04:04 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA19399; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 07:00:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc) Received: by hub.freebsd.org (bulk_mailer v1.6); Thu, 22 Jan 1998 07:00:58 -0800 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA19392 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 07:00:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (fallout.campusview.indiana.edu [149.159.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA19384 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 07:00:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jfieber@indiana.edu) Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA10691; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 10:00:42 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 10:00:41 -0500 (EST) From: John Fieber To: Kazuo HORIKAWA cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, man-jp-core@jp.freebsd.org Subject: Re: Proposal to put Japanese online manuals into freefall CVS repository In-Reply-To: <199801221157.UAA00594@isrdgw.isrd.hitachi.co.jp> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org X-UIDL: 0fa4b3738503c6a69fe79eb04613efe9 On Thu, 22 Jan 1998, Kazuo HORIKAWA wrote: > Is the proposal to import Japanese online manuals into CVS repository > (doc/ja_JP.EUC/man) acceptable? I would like to ask you this > question, because you are the Documentation Project Manager. I would like to resolve the ja versus ja_JP.EUC question first, but otherwise that sounds fine. The problem coming down the pipe with the full locale specification is cases where there may be numerous locales for any given language. Right now there are 4 de locales, 4 en locales, 4 fr locales, 2 it locales, and 2 nl locales that differ only in the country specification. While genuine language/dialect differences do exist in some cases, how likely is it that de_CH is going to produce a different set of translations that de_DE? Encoding may still be an issue, but how big of an issue? In the web/mail/news environment, documents can be self-identifying. Can a man program detect EUC versus SJIS input and convert on-the-fly to the active locale encoding if necessary? (Am I correct in believing that EUC -> SJIS -> EUC is a "lossless" conversion?) I have also been pondering the implications moving the english docs (and web pages) into an en subdirectory. In the web context, URLs without a language qualifier could be redirected to the language of the mirror's choice. -john ----Next_Part(Sat_May_15_21:51:55_1999_518)-- Content-Type: Message/Rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: from jaz.jp.freebsd.org (jaz.jp.freebsd.org [133.11.156.38]) by mail.yk.rim.or.jp (8.8.5/3.4Wbeta6-rim1.1) with ESMTP id LAA11751; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 11:35:39 +0900 (JST) Received: by jaz.jp.freebsd.org (8.8.8+3.0Wbeta7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA19806 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 11:35:36 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA16408; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 18:32:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc) Received: by hub.freebsd.org (bulk_mailer v1.6); Thu, 22 Jan 1998 18:32:20 -0800 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA16400 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 18:32:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from tokyonet-entrance.astec.co.jp (tokyonet-entrance.astec.co.jp [202.239.16.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA16393 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 18:32:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hanai@astec.co.jp) Received: from amont.astec.co.jp (amont.astec.co.jp [172.20.10.1]) by tokyonet-entrance.astec.co.jp (8.8.8+2.7Wbeta7/3.6W-astecMX2.3) with ESMTP id LAA05845; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 11:32:00 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (elpibe.astec.co.jp [172.20.21.82]) by amont.astec.co.jp (8.7.6/3.6Wbeta5-astecMX2.4) with ESMTP id LAA07644; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 11:32:37 +0900 (JST) To: man-jp-core@jp.freebsd.org, jfieber@indiana.edu Cc: horikawa@isrd.hitachi.co.jp, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [man-jp-core 939] Re: Proposal to put Japanese online manuals into freefall CVS repository From: Hiroyuki HANAI In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 22 Jan 1998 10:00:41 -0500 (EST)" References: X-Mailer: Mew version 1.92.4 on Emacs 19.34 / Mule 2.3 (SUETSUMUHANA) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19980123113152P.hanai@astec.co.jp> Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 11:31:52 +0900 X-Dispatcher: imput version 971024 Lines: 31 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org X-UIDL: 5b43a0653ed9383e24ca75ce2c5183a6 On Thu, 22 Jan 1998, John Fieber wrote: > I would like to resolve the ja versus ja_JP.EUC question first, > but otherwise that sounds fine. I think that members in Japanese documetation group will agree with John's idea. # Sorry to be late. > Encoding may still be an issue, but how big of an issue? In the > web/mail/news environment, documents can be self-identifying. Can In the mail/news environment, there exists a rule that we must use ISO-2022-JP in encoding Japanese characters. > a man program detect EUC versus SJIS input and convert on-the-fly > to the active locale encoding if necessary? (Am I correct in Anyone cannot resolve EUC and SJIS explicitly. :-( # There is an overlapping region in the two encondings. Well, I think a man program doesn't have to detect the character encodings because we can make a rule that man pages should be EUC-encoded when Japanese characters appears in them. > believing that EUC -> SJIS -> EUC is a "lossless" conversion?) You are right. It's a lossless conversion. -- Hiroyuki HANAI =-= Be cool! =-= hanai@jp.FreeBSD.ORG ----Next_Part(Sat_May_15_21:51:55_1999_518)-- Content-Type: Message/Rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: from jaz.jp.freebsd.org (jaz.jp.freebsd.org [133.11.156.38]) by mail.yk.rim.or.jp (8.8.5/3.4Wbeta6-rim1.1) with ESMTP id NAA04407; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 13:13:51 +0900 (JST) Received: by jaz.jp.freebsd.org (8.8.8+3.0Wbeta7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA23952 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 13:13:38 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA23718; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 20:09:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc) Received: by hub.freebsd.org (bulk_mailer v1.6); Thu, 22 Jan 1998 20:09:17 -0800 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA23709 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 20:09:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hitiij.hitachi.co.jp (root@hitiij.hitachi.co.jp [133.145.224.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA23697 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 20:09:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from horikawa@isrd.hitachi.co.jp) Received: from isrdgw.isrd.hitachi.co.jp by hitiij.hitachi.co.jp (8.8.5+2.7Wbeta5/3.5W-hitiij) id MAA28362; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 12:58:44 +0900 (JST) Received: from [133.144.95.172] by isrdgw.isrd.hitachi.co.jp (8.6.9+2.4W/2.7W-ISRD) id NAA14486; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 13:08:34 +0900 Message-Id: <199801230408.NAA14486@isrdgw.isrd.hitachi.co.jp> To: Hiroyuki HANAI Cc: John Fieber , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, man-jp-core@jp.freebsd.org Subject: Re: [man-jp-core 939] Re: Proposal to put Japanese online manuals into freefall CVS repository In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 23 Jan 1998 11:31:52 JST." <19980123113152P.hanai@astec.co.jp> Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 13:08:15 +0900 From: Kazuo HORIKAWA Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org X-UIDL: 3ea17758625b3b82419228433d9f0103 On Thu, 22 Jan 1998, John Fieber wrote: > > On Thu, 22 Jan 1998, John Fieber wrote: > > I would like to resolve the ja versus ja_JP.EUC question first, > > but otherwise that sounds fine. >>>>> Hiroyuki HANAI writes: > I think that members in Japanese documetation group will agree > with John's idea. > # Sorry to be late. I think John Fieber want to put Japanese documents under doc/ja/, German documents under doc/de/, English documents under doc/en/, and so on. I agree with this idea. > > a man program detect EUC versus SJIS input and convert on-the-fly > > to the active locale encoding if necessary? (Am I correct in > Anyone cannot resolve EUC and SJIS explicitly. :-( > # There is an overlapping region in the two encondings. > Well, I think a man program doesn't have to detect the character > encodings because we can make a rule that man pages should be > EUC-encoded when Japanese characters appears in them. All FreeBSD man pages in Japanese are EUC-encoded. And I want to continue to maintain only EUC-encoded man pages. I do not say that I do not want to support ja_JP.SJIS locale. I think that ja_JP.SJIS locale can be supported by man program even if Japanese man pages are EUC-encoded. -- Kazuo Horikawa ----Next_Part(Sat_May_15_21:51:55_1999_518)-- Content-Type: Message/Rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: from jaz.jp.freebsd.org (jaz.jp.freebsd.org [133.11.156.38]) by mail.yk.rim.or.jp (8.8.5/3.4Wbeta6-rim1.1) with ESMTP id NAA05830; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 13:18:37 +0900 (JST) Received: by jaz.jp.freebsd.org (8.8.8+3.0Wbeta7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA24370 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 13:18:27 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA24474; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 20:17:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc) Received: by hub.freebsd.org (bulk_mailer v1.6); Thu, 22 Jan 1998 20:17:02 -0800 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA24466 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 20:17:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (fallout.campusview.indiana.edu [149.159.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA24461 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 20:17:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jfieber@indiana.edu) Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA01841; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 23:13:23 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 23:13:23 -0500 (EST) From: John Fieber To: Kazuo HORIKAWA cc: Hiroyuki HANAI , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, man-jp-core@jp.freebsd.org Subject: Re: [man-jp-core 939] Re: Proposal to put Japanese online manuals into freefall CVS repository In-Reply-To: <199801230408.NAA14486@isrdgw.isrd.hitachi.co.jp> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org X-UIDL: c943eddf9fa62bea5432a4dc0c661e86 On Fri, 23 Jan 1998, Kazuo HORIKAWA wrote: > I do not say that I do not want to support ja_JP.SJIS locale. I think > that ja_JP.SJIS locale can be supported by man program even if > Japanese man pages are EUC-encoded. That is exactly what I was wondering, thanks. -john ----Next_Part(Sat_May_15_21:51:55_1999_518)---- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat May 15 6:31: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.yk.rim.or.jp (mail.yk.rim.or.jp [202.247.130.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 198F814EE2 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 06:31:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from k-horik@yk.rim.or.jp) Received: from localhost (ppp914.yk.rim.or.jp [202.247.185.165]) by mail.yk.rim.or.jp (8.8.8/3.6W-RIMNET-98-06-09) with ESMTP id WAA29967; Sat, 15 May 1999 22:30:51 +0900 (JST) To: ache@nagual.pp.ru Cc: nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk, ru-freebsd-doc@freebsd.ru, doc@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-translate@ngo.org.uk From: horikawa@jp.freebsd.org Subject: Re: [RU-DOC] FDP Directory Reorganization In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 15 May 1999 04:53:36 +0400" <19990515045334.A89897@nagual.pp.ru> References: <19990515045334.A89897@nagual.pp.ru> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.93 on Emacs 19.34 / Mule 2.3 (SUETSUMUHANA) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19990515223005H.k-horik@yk.rim.or.jp> Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 22:30:05 +0900 X-Dispatcher: imput version 980905(IM100) Lines: 42 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org From: "Andrey A. Chernov" Subject: Re: [RU-DOC] FDP Directory Reorganization Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 04:53:36 +0400 > I mean only one special case where the docs are accessed online by some > program with language autoselection depending on current locale settings. > Possible variants are "man" and "info" f.e. > For all other cases (WWW browsing and such) structure you suggest are > applicable. I try to describe about current Japanese online manuals situations, because it may be helpful for FDP Directory Reorganization. o Japanese online manuals exist in /doc/ja/man repository. o Japanese online manuals will be installed in /usr/share/man/ja directory, if we type: # cd somewhere/doc/ja/man; make all install o Japanese online manuals are archived in manpages.?? for snapshots and RELEASEs. If we select `doc' when we install FreeBSD from snapshots, Japanese online manuals will be installed in /usr/share/man/ja. o To read `formatted" Japanese online manuals (under /usr/share/man/ja and etc.), we should install following ports or packages: - ja-man-1.1g (ports/japanese/man): locale capable man program based on GNU man-1.1 (FreeBSD's man program is also based on GNU man-1.1). ja-man-1.1g's man program calls `setlocate(LC_CTYPE, "")', gets a string formed "_." and searches manual pages in following subdirectories under `manpath`. * _. * _ * - ja-groff-0.99 (ports/japanese/man): Japanese capable groff. For Japanese language, it can handle only EUC (it cannot handle Shift-JIS or ISO-2022-JP directly). - some terminal emulators which can handle Japanese: ja-kterm-6.2.0 (ports/japanese/kterm) or something. - some pager which can handle Japanese: ja-less-322 (ports/japanese/less) or something. -- Kazuo Horikawa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat May 15 6:47:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from deep-thought.demos.su (deep-thought.demos.su [194.87.1.76]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67B6A1504A for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 06:47:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ache@deep-thought.demos.su) Received: (from ache@localhost) by deep-thought.demos.su (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA00861; Sat, 15 May 1999 17:47:17 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from ache) Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 17:47:17 +0400 From: "Andrey A. Chernov" To: Kazuo Horikawa Cc: nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk, ru-freebsd-doc@freebsd.ru, doc@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-translate@ngo.org.uk, hanai@jp.freebsd.org Subject: Re: [RU-DOC] FDP Directory Reorganization Message-ID: <19990515174717.A656@nagual.pp.ru> References: <19990514204302.B43389@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <19990515222516E.k-horik@yk.rim.or.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990515222516E.k-horik@yk.rim.or.jp>; from horikawa@jp.freebsd.org on Sat, May 15, 1999 at 10:25:16PM +0900 Organization: Biomechanoid Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > The problem coming down the pipe with the full locale > specification is cases where there may be numerous locales for > any given language. Right now there are 4 de locales, 4 en > locales, 4 fr locales, 2 it locales, and 2 nl locales that differ > only in the country specification. While genuine > language/dialect differences do exist in some cases, how likely > is it that de_CH is going to produce a different set of > translations that de_DE? Thinking from locale autosearch perspective, all particular language variants could be linked to default langauge variant. If some language variant different with default appearse, it can be de-linked making real directory. But I don't think it really happens for documentation, so it seems that / scheme is right. Maybe even . if people choose only one encoding for documentation, but *not* simple (assuming some unknown default encoding) which means that program can't sense it. -- Andrey A. Chernov http://nagual.pp.ru/~ache/ MTH/SH/HE S-- W-- N+ PEC>+ D A a++ C G>+ QH+(++) 666+>++ Y To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat May 15 6:58:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from deep-thought.demos.su (deep-thought.demos.su [194.87.1.76]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A84D214D61 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 06:58:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ache@deep-thought.demos.su) Received: (from ache@localhost) by deep-thought.demos.su (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA00964; Sat, 15 May 1999 17:58:42 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from ache) Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 17:58:42 +0400 From: "Andrey A. Chernov" To: horikawa@jp.freebsd.org Cc: nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk, ru-freebsd-doc@freebsd.ru, doc@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-translate@ngo.org.uk Subject: Re: [RU-DOC] FDP Directory Reorganization Message-ID: <19990515175842.B656@nagual.pp.ru> References: <19990515045334.A89897@nagual.pp.ru> <19990515223005H.k-horik@yk.rim.or.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990515223005H.k-horik@yk.rim.or.jp>; from horikawa@jp.freebsd.org on Sat, May 15, 1999 at 10:30:05PM +0900 Organization: Biomechanoid Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, May 15, 1999 at 10:30:05PM +0900, horikawa@jp.freebsd.org wrote: > - ja-man-1.1g (ports/japanese/man): > locale capable man program based on GNU man-1.1 (FreeBSD's man > program is also based on GNU man-1.1). > ja-man-1.1g's man program calls `setlocate(LC_CTYPE, "")', gets > a string formed "_." and searches > manual pages in following subdirectories under `manpath`. Interesting. I plan to make similar changes to system "man", so I'll look there... I especially disagree about directories searched: > * _. Ok. > * _ > * These two comes without encoding which is plain wrong assuming some mysterious encoding must be hardcoded elsewhere. I suggest one variant for replacement of these two: . -- Andrey A. Chernov http://nagual.pp.ru/~ache/ MTH/SH/HE S-- W-- N+ PEC>+ D A a++ C G>+ QH+(++) 666+>++ Y To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat May 15 7: 9:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from deep-thought.demos.su (deep-thought.demos.su [194.87.1.76]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CCD914DEC for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 07:09:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ache@deep-thought.demos.su) Received: (from ache@localhost) by deep-thought.demos.su (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA01051; Sat, 15 May 1999 18:09:10 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from ache) Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 18:09:10 +0400 From: "Andrey A. Chernov" To: horikawa@jp.freebsd.org Cc: nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk, ru-freebsd-doc@freebsd.ru, doc@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-translate@ngo.org.uk Subject: Re: [RU-DOC] FDP Directory Reorganization Message-ID: <19990515180910.A1012@nagual.pp.ru> References: <19990515045334.A89897@nagual.pp.ru> <19990515223005H.k-horik@yk.rim.or.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990515223005H.k-horik@yk.rim.or.jp>; from horikawa@jp.freebsd.org on Sat, May 15, 1999 at 10:30:05PM +0900 Organization: Biomechanoid Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ... continue ... Imagine bad things happens, if user set LANG to ja_JP.SJIS while mans are in EUC stored in /usr/share/man/ja It must be renamed to /usr/share/man/ja.EUC to resolve this collision. -- Andrey A. Chernov http://nagual.pp.ru/~ache/ MTH/SH/HE S-- W-- N+ PEC>+ D A a++ C G>+ QH+(++) 666+>++ Y To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat May 15 9:36:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0619615027; Sat, 15 May 1999 09:36:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesusr@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from jesusr@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id JAA16483; Sat, 15 May 1999 09:36:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesusr@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 09:36:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199905151636.JAA16483@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cjc@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com, jesusr@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/11716: "pkg_add(1)" appears as "pkg.add(1)" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: "pkg_add(1)" appears as "pkg.add(1)" State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: jesusr State-Changed-When: Sat May 15 09:26:49 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Patch commited, thanks! rev 1.5 doc/share/sgml/man-refs.ent To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat May 15 10:24:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (baerenklau.de.freebsd.org [195.185.195.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FE37152B5; Sat, 15 May 1999 10:24:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id TAA07535; Sat, 15 May 1999 19:24:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from wosch@localhost) by paula.panke.de.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.8.8) id TAA06688; Sat, 15 May 1999 19:07:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wosch) Message-ID: <19990515190712.02032@panke.de.freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 19:07:12 +0200 From: Wolfram Schneider To: nclayton@lehman.com, Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Can't build handbook References: <19990508141141.A20366@holly.dyndns.org> <19990508231333.45191@panke.de.freebsd.org> <19990510111306.I14492@lehman.com> <199905110749.AAA28713@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> <19990513130423.49638@panke.de.freebsd.org> <19990513124039.N14492@lehman.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <19990513124039.N14492@lehman.com>; from nclayton@lehman.com on Thu, May 13, 1999 at 12:40:39PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 1999-05-13 12:40:39 +0100, nclayton@lehman.com wrote: > Yes, if they check it out anywhere other than /usr/doc they will need > to set DOC_PREFIX. As I've already explained, this is a hack that will > (eventually) go away. In the meantime we can do one of two things; Some weeks ago it was possible to checkout the handbook and compile it: $ cvs co handbook; cd handbook; make No it is no longer possible. You have to checkout either the whole doc tree or know exactly which sub-directories you need: $ cvs co doc/en/handbook doc/sgml doc/share doc/en/share $ cd doc/en/handbook; make and set the DOC_PREFIX variable to $PWD/doc. I'm not surprised that we are getting complaints and the documentation pages are more often broken ;-( > 1. Keep the "DOC_PREFIX?=/usr/doc" line in docproj.docbook.mk, but > change the path from /usr/doc to something else. > > I think changing the path is a bad idea, as anyone who's just > cut-n-pasted the CVSup configurations is going to be inconvenienced. > > 2. Stick in some code that checks for an empty DOC_PREFIX, and advises > the user on how to fix it. Or better yet, looks in DOC_PREFIX > first the make sure the appropriate files are there, and warns the > user if they aren't. > > I posted code that does this earlier on in this thread. > > I think option 2 is the best way to go. We can keep /usr/doc as the > default, and it will work if the user has been storing a checked out > copy in /usr/doc. If they haven't then the DOC_PREFIX test will discover > that, abort the build, and print instructions about what they should do. I prefer option 2). -- Wolfram Schneider http://wolfram.schneider.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat May 15 11: 7:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from imap.ncsa.es (imap.ncsa.es [194.179.50.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D06F014C9F for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 11:07:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesusr@ncsa.es) Received: from ender.ncsa.es (ender.ncsa.es [194.179.50.15]) by imap.ncsa.es (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA47631 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 20:07:17 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 20:05:49 +0200 (CEST) Reply-To: jesusr@ncsa.es Organization: Nexus Comunicaciones, S.A. From: Jesus Rodriguez To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: freebsd.org domain Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello... Looking at mirrors page on handbook, i can see these "differents domains": freebsd.org freebsd.ORG FreeBSD.org FreeBSD.ORG Can we use *only one*?, which one? JesusR. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat May 15 11: 9: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.svr.pol.co.uk (mail2.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F7D314C9F for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 11:08:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@eborcom.com) Received: from modem-39.amitriptyline.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.50.39] ident=[tYzv9Y2LysQVEbDVTqmVDEux4opzDUyL]) by mail2.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10iiro-0002AP-00 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Sat, 15 May 1999 19:08:57 +0100 Received: (qmail 2957 invoked by uid 5000); 15 May 1999 14:54:16 -0000 Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 15:54:16 +0100 From: Tom Hukins To: Franky Effendy Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I would like to contribute documents Message-ID: <19990515155416.A2900@eborcom.com> Mail-Followup-To: Franky Effendy , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: ; from Franky Effendy on Fri, May 14, 1999 at 08:48:11PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, May 14, 1999 at 08:48:11PM -0500, Franky Effendy wrote: > How do I contribute documents ...? See the Documentation Project's Web pages . You should read most of what's there, but the "Submitting Documentation" section will be most relevant to you. Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat May 15 12: 9:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0236114C9E; Sat, 15 May 1999 12:09:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesusr@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from jesusr@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id MAA29868; Sat, 15 May 1999 12:09:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesusr@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 12:09:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199905151909.MAA29868@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cejkar@dcse.fee.vutbr.cz, jesusr@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/9455: cvsup and ftp server in Czech Republic Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: cvsup and ftp server in Czech Republic State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: jesusr State-Changed-When: Sat May 15 12:07:47 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Commited, thanks! doc/en/handbook/mirrors/chapter.sgml:1.13 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat May 15 13:57: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (baerenklau.de.freebsd.org [195.185.195.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EC4714BD7 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 13:56:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id WAA10689; Sat, 15 May 1999 22:56:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from wosch@localhost) by paula.panke.de.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.8.8) id WAA07496; Sat, 15 May 1999 22:56:38 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wosch) Message-ID: <19990515225637.24715@panke.de.freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 22:56:37 +0200 From: Wolfram Schneider To: nclayton@lehman.com, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: doc//books/*, doc//articles/*, and docs.freebsd.org References: <19990504163533.S14492@lehman.com> <19990509011527.18124@panke.de.freebsd.org> <19990510104605.D14492@lehman.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <19990510104605.D14492@lehman.com>; from nclayton@lehman.com on Mon, May 10, 1999 at 10:46:05AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 1999-05-10 10:46:05 +0100, nclayton@lehman.com wrote: [This was a long mail and I will answer in parts] > > I'm still fixing the broken links from the linuxdoc to docbook > > conversions, the list of redirects doubled in size ;-( > > I know. Do you keep a list of referrers to URLs that we're redirecting? No. I'm reading randomly the error log file and if there are too much errors I will add a redirect. > I'm happy to put together a standard e-mail to send to people who've > linked to obsolete URLs advising them to update their links. You can check the access log files on freefall for redirects. Status code for redirects is 302. $ zgrep -h ' 302 ' /usr/local/www/log/access.log.?.gz -- Wolfram Schneider http://wolfram.schneider.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat May 15 15:24:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (baerenklau.de.freebsd.org [195.185.195.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1851914CC7; Sat, 15 May 1999 15:24:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id AAA11903; Sun, 16 May 1999 00:24:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from wosch@localhost) by paula.panke.de.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.8.8) id XAA07778; Sat, 15 May 1999 23:12:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wosch) Message-ID: <19990515231241.20872@panke.de.freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 23:12:41 +0200 From: Wolfram Schneider To: nclayton@lehman.com, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: cvs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: doc//books/*, doc//articles/*, and docs.freebsd.org References: <19990504163533.S14492@lehman.com> <19990509011527.18124@panke.de.freebsd.org> <19990510104605.D14492@lehman.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <19990510104605.D14492@lehman.com>; from nclayton@lehman.com on Mon, May 10, 1999 at 10:46:05AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 1999-05-10 10:46:05 +0100, nclayton@lehman.com wrote: > Of these, doc/FAQ needs converting to DocBook, as do almost all of > doc/en/tutorials. > > I don't think these conversions should be done "in place" as it where. > When I converted the Handbook from LinuxDoc to DocBook the converted files > were placed in doc/en/handbook, instead of sitting on a branch of > doc/handbook. I'd like to do the same thing with the DTD migration for > the FAQ and the majority of the tutorials. > > This entails no more CVS bloat than will be incurred by the DTD migration > anyway. > > Being more precise > > LinuxDoc (current) DocBook (new) > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > doc/FAQ -> doc/en/articles/FAQ > doc/en/tutorials/ddwg -> doc/en/articles/writing-device-drivers > doc/en/tutorials/devel -> doc/en/articles/programming-tools > doc/en/tutorials/diskformat -> doc/en/articles/formatting-media > doc/en/tutorials/disklessx -> doc/en/articles/diskless-X > * doc/en/tutorials/docproj-primer -> doc/en/books/FDP-primer > doc/en/tutorials/fonts -> doc/en/articles/fonts > doc/en/tutorials/mh -> doc/en/articles/mh > doc/en/tutorials/multios -> doc/en/articles/multios > doc/en/tutorials/newuser -> doc/en/articles/newuser > doc/en/tutorials/ppp -> doc/en/books/ppp > > * = Repository copy required, because this is already in DocBook format devel, diskformat, disklessx, fonts, mh, multios and newuser are also in DocBook format. Only ddwg and ppp are still in linuxdoc. > Note: As you can see, I'm in favour of longer names to be more > explicit, in general. The *vast* majority of people are going > to click on these as URLs, so won't care how long they are. Those > of us that are actually maintaining them have TAB-completion on > our shell, so it's no big deal. IMHO filenames should be in lowercase if possible. -- Wolfram Schneider http://wolfram.schneider.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat May 15 15:24:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (baerenklau.de.freebsd.org [195.185.195.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1A0414CFC for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 15:24:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id AAA11904; Sun, 16 May 1999 00:24:20 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from wosch@localhost) by paula.panke.de.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.8.8) id XAA07840; Sat, 15 May 1999 23:36:53 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wosch) Message-ID: <19990515233653.33606@panke.de.freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 23:36:53 +0200 From: Wolfram Schneider To: nclayton@lehman.com, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: doc//books/*, doc//articles/*, and docs.freebsd.org References: <19990504163533.S14492@lehman.com> <19990509011527.18124@panke.de.freebsd.org> <19990510104605.D14492@lehman.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <19990510104605.D14492@lehman.com>; from nclayton@lehman.com on Mon, May 10, 1999 at 10:46:05AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 1999-05-10 10:46:05 +0100, nclayton@lehman.com wrote: > Bits of the FreeBSD site can then become > >

A complete list of the FreeBSD Documentation is available at > docs.freebsd.org, and can > be viewed on-line, or downloaded in a wide variety of Unix, Windows, > and Macintosh friendly formats.

> > > > Of course, this does bring up some issues. Two immediately spring to > > > mind. > > > > > > The first is mirroring -- we already have many mirror sites who mirror > > > www.freebsd.org around the world. Would they be prepared to mirror > > > docs.freebsd.org as well? The only way to find out is to ask, which is > > > part of the reason for this message. > > > > Our documentation is tiny, compared with docs.sun.com > > I see now reason why we should move the handbook from > > www.freebsd.org to docs.freebsd.org > > Our documentation is currently small. FreeBSD's growing, the available > documentation is going to grow. I'd rather put in place a scaleable > infrastructure to support it now, while the disturbance is still > relatively small. The current english web pages are 14MB big and the translated pages are 24MB big, together 38MB. I guess the documentation will not grown with more than 20MB/year. So we will reach the 100MB limit in year 2003 ;-) Still small for a web server. I think the web server (and web mirrors) should contain all informations which you need to install FreeBSD - thats the FAQ and most parts of the handbook. docs.freebsd.org is a server for special interest documentation (man pages, info pages etc.) or documents from past releases. -- Wolfram Schneider http://wolfram.schneider.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat May 15 15:25:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (baerenklau.de.freebsd.org [195.185.195.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98A6C14CC7 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 15:25:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from w@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id AAA11919; Sun, 16 May 1999 00:24:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from w@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from w@localhost) by paula.panke.de.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.8.8) id XAA07873; Sat, 15 May 1999 23:44:45 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from w) Message-ID: <19990515234445.15296@panke.de.freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 23:44:45 +0200 From: Wolfram Schneider To: "c.arash" , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSDHandbook References: <000701be9bed$bd1866c0$a3c0e8c2@carlosnovoa> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <000701be9bed$bd1866c0$a3c0e8c2@carlosnovoa>; from c.arash on Tue, May 11, 1999 at 10:34:52PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 1999-05-11 22:34:52 +0200, c.arash wrote: > Guten Tag, > Ich möchte das FreeBSDHandbook haben. http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/ or in German (not complete) http://www.de.freebsd.org/de/handbook/ > Mit freundlichen grüssen > > CARLOS NOVOA -- Wolfram Schneider http://wolfram.schneider.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat May 15 15:26:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (baerenklau.de.freebsd.org [195.185.195.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF63214CC7 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 15:26:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from w@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id AAA11954; Sun, 16 May 1999 00:25:53 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from w@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from w@localhost) by paula.panke.de.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.8.8) id AAA07901; Sun, 16 May 1999 00:04:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from w) Message-ID: <19990516000424.48809@panke.de.freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 00:04:24 +0200 From: Wolfram Schneider To: "Andrey A. Chernov" , Kazuo Horikawa Cc: nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk, ru-freebsd-doc@freebsd.ru, doc@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-translate@ngo.org.uk, hanai@jp.freebsd.org Subject: Re: [RU-DOC] FDP Directory Reorganization References: <19990514204302.B43389@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <19990515222516E.k-horik@yk.rim.or.jp> <19990515174717.A656@nagual.pp.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <19990515174717.A656@nagual.pp.ru>; from Andrey A. Chernov on Sat, May 15, 1999 at 05:47:17PM +0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 1999-05-15 17:47:17 +0400, Andrey A. Chernov wrote: > > The problem coming down the pipe with the full locale > > specification is cases where there may be numerous locales for > > any given language. Right now there are 4 de locales, 4 en > > locales, 4 fr locales, 2 it locales, and 2 nl locales that differ > > only in the country specification. While genuine > > language/dialect differences do exist in some cases, how likely > > is it that de_CH is going to produce a different set of > > translations that de_DE? > > Thinking from locale autosearch perspective, all particular language > variants could be linked to default langauge variant. If some language > variant different with default appearse, it can be de-linked making real > directory. > > But I don't think it really happens for documentation, so it seems that > / scheme is right. Maybe even . if people > choose only one encoding for documentation, but *not* simple > (assuming some unknown default encoding) which means that program can't > sense it. I prefer . or just for translations in iso8859-1 character set. -- Wolfram Schneider http://wolfram.schneider.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat May 15 15:26:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (baerenklau.de.freebsd.org [195.185.195.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C05214CC7 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 15:26:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from w@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id AAA11992; Sun, 16 May 1999 00:26:40 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from w@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from w@localhost) by paula.panke.de.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.8.8) id AAA07918; Sun, 16 May 1999 00:11:04 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from w) Message-ID: <19990516001104.14304@panke.de.freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 00:11:04 +0200 From: Wolfram Schneider To: Greg Black , Nik Clayton Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FDP Directory Reorganisation References: <19990513211458.B70767@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <19990515053146.27873.qmail@alice.gba.oz.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <19990515053146.27873.qmail@alice.gba.oz.au>; from Greg Black on Sat, May 15, 1999 at 03:31:46PM +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 1999-05-15 15:31:46 +1000, Greg Black wrote: > > Migrate to a new directory structure that follows this layout; > > doc/ > > / > > / > > articles/ > > fonts/ > > ... > > books/ > > FAQ/ > > FDP-primer/ > > printing/ > > ... > > man/ > > ... > > share/ > > sgml/ > > share/ > > ... > > share/ > > sgml/ > > ... > > mk/ > > ... > > Speaking from the perspective of somebody who is new to FreeBSD > (but who expects to be here for the long haul), I find a problem > with the distinction between "articles" and "books" -- as I read > the proposal, the only distinction between these directories is > that "books" are longer. > > To me, this is an artificial distinction. If all the "books" > and "articles" are a similar set of documents -- some longer and > some shorter, some more tutorial and some less so -- then surely > they could all live in one directory as this would make the task > of finding the document that you wanted much simpler. Good point. > I quite understand the intention behind this reorganisation, but > I fear that it may go too far in complexity if the "articles" > and "books" distinction is retained. Of course, the underlying > issue may be that there are too many entries to work well in a > single directory. If that is the case, then surely it would be > better to divide it up by some kind of topic-based plan. Agreed. -- Wolfram Schneider http://wolfram.schneider.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat May 15 20:45:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from tasam.com (tasam.com [206.161.83.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D634714C11 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 20:45:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from melissa@metallinet.org) Received: from metallinet.org ([208.18.247.205]) by tasam.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA24962 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 23:45:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <373E3F2A.A95A3049@metallinet.org> Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 22:44:43 -0500 From: Melissa Reply-To: melissa@metallinet.org X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: FreeBSD Doc Project Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org SUBSCRIBE To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun May 16 2:17:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.yk.rim.or.jp (mail.yk.rim.or.jp [202.247.130.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F122714F25; Sun, 16 May 1999 02:17:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from k-horik@yk.rim.or.jp) Received: from localhost (ppp864.yk.rim.or.jp [202.247.185.115]) by mail.yk.rim.or.jp (8.8.8/3.6W-RIMNET-98-06-09) with ESMTP id SAA27273; Sun, 16 May 1999 18:16:56 +0900 (JST) To: ache@nagual.pp.ru Cc: horikawa@jp.freebsd.org, nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk, ru-freebsd-doc@freebsd.ru, doc@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-translate@ngo.org.uk, asami@freebsd.org From: horikawa@jp.freebsd.org Subject: Re: [RU-DOC] FDP Directory Reorganization In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 15 May 1999 18:09:10 +0400" <19990515180910.A1012@nagual.pp.ru> References: <19990515180910.A1012@nagual.pp.ru> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.93 on Emacs 19.34 / Mule 2.3 (SUETSUMUHANA) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19990516181607K.k-horik@yk.rim.or.jp> Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 18:16:07 +0900 X-Dispatcher: imput version 980905(IM100) Lines: 83 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I cc'd ports master, Satoshi Asami, because changes in manpage destination should have some influences on ports. From: "Andrey A. Chernov" Subject: Re: [RU-DOC] FDP Directory Reorganization Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 18:09:10 +0400 > ... continue ... > > Imagine bad things happens, if user set LANG to ja_JP.SJIS while mans are > in EUC stored in /usr/share/man/ja > > It must be renamed to /usr/share/man/ja.EUC to resolve this collision. Now, ja-man-1.1g (jman) can support both ja_JP.EUC and ja_JP.SJIS, using only man/ja subdirectory which contains ja_JP.EUC roff sources, because: o ja-groff-0.99 accepts only ja_JP.EUC roff sources (regardless of LC_* or LANG) and outputs formated manuals in ja_JP.EUC (Yes, I think that this ja-groff-0.99 behavior is *hard-coded*). o ja-less-233 (jless) can handle LC_* or LANG. jless can accept both ja_JP.EUC and ja_JP.SJIS (it has auto-detection mechanism) and outputs text as specified by LC_* or LANG. So, if we type `LANG=ja_JP.SJIS jman ls' (*1): (1) ja-man-1.1g (jman) finds /usr/share/man/ja/ls.1.gz, and invokes ja-groff-0.99 (jgroff) and ja-less-233 (jless) like: gzcat /usr/share/man/ja/ls.1.gz | jgroff -man -Tnippon | jless (2) ja-groff-0.99 (jgroff) accepts `gzcat /usr/share/man/ja/ls.1.gz` which is in ja_JP.EUC and outputs in ja_JP.EUC. (3) ja-less-233 (jless) accepts ja_JP.EUC and outputs in ja_JP.SJIS, as specified by LANG. If we type `LANG=ja_JP.EUC jman ls': (1) ja-man-1.1g (jman) finds /usr/share/man/ja/ls.1.gz, and invokes ja-groff-0.99 (jgroff) and ja-less-233 (jless) like: gzcat /usr/share/man/ja/ls.1.gz | jgroff -man -Tnippon | jless (2) ja-groff-0.99 (jgroff) accepts `gzcat /usr/share/man/ja/ls.1.gz` which is in ja_JP.EUC and outputs in ja_JP.EUC. (3) ja-less-233 (jless) accepts ja_JP.EUC and outputs in ja_JP.EUC, as specified by LANG. %% If we must have Japanese manpages in both man/ja_JP.EUC and man/ja_JP.SJIS instead of single directory man/ja, we will have both man/ja_JP.EUC/ls.1.gz and man/ja_JP.SJIS/ls.1.gz. It doubles disk usage to support both locales. I know that some commercial OS have both ja_JP.EUC manuals and ja_JP.SJIS manuals, but I (personally) think that it is not good idea to install both manuals which represent same text, which are only encoded differently (supporting both locales is needed on large systems to support both users who prefer ja_JP.EUC and users who prefer ja_JP.SJIS). When user-front-ended programs can handle locales (in this case, jman searches only man/ja if LANG is ja_JP.EUC or ja_JP.SJIS, and jless can convert ja_JP.EUC to ja_JP.SJIS losslessly if LANG is ja_JP.SJIS), I think that we need not have as many text sources (in this case, man/ja_JP.EUC/ls.1.gz and man/ja_JP.SJIS/ls.1.gz) as the numbers of locales to support. %% When we have only ja_JP.EUC manuals in man/ja_JP.EUC, I think that we can support ja_JP.SJIS by modifying ja-man-1.1g to search in man/ja_JP.EUC (instead of man/ja) even if LANG is ja_JP.SJIS. BTW, when we think about man page destination, we should also consider about *ports* which install locale specific man pages. On March 1998, /usr/local/man/ja_JP.EUC was renamed to /usr/local/man/ja, and many ports maintainers had to rewrite Japanese man page destination. I think that more discussion is needed to decide man page destination. I think that we can discuss FDP Directory Reorganization and man page destination separately. Can we discuss man page destination topic after FDP Directory Reorganization is finished? -- Kazuo Horikawa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun May 16 4:15:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84A941501B for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 04:14:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) id MAA64451; Sun, 16 May 1999 12:13:20 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 12:13:20 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Jesus Rodriguez Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd.org domain Message-ID: <19990516121320.D62097@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: ; from Jesus Rodriguez on Sat, May 15, 1999 at 08:05:49PM +0200 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, May 15, 1999 at 08:05:49PM +0200, Jesus Rodriguez wrote: > Looking at mirrors page on handbook, i can see these "differents domains": > > freebsd.org > freebsd.ORG > FreeBSD.org > FreeBSD.ORG > > Can we use *only one*?, which one? Personal preference, in order freebsd.org FreeBSD.org FreeBSD.ORG freebsd.ORG Anyone else? N -- There's some milk in the fridge about to go off. . . and there it goes. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun May 16 4:15:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 185B3152D4 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 04:14:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) id LAA62629; Sun, 16 May 1999 11:58:36 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 11:58:36 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Alexey Zelkin Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: nationalization Message-ID: <19990516115836.A62097@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <199905111519.TAA02467@scorpion.crimea.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <199905111519.TAA02467@scorpion.crimea.ua>; from Alexey Zelkin on Tue, May 11, 1999 at 07:19:21PM +0400 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Alexey, On Tue, May 11, 1999 at 07:19:21PM +0400, Alexey Zelkin wrote: > I am going to translate and maintain russian translation of the > man pages (like japan one). Is here someone who can assist me > for this work. Just interesting about possible problems. There are already folks working on Russian translations of the FreeBSD docs. I'm sure your contribution will be very valuable. If you get in touch with Andrey Zakhvatov for more information. Looking at http://surw.chel.su/~andy/index.html will probably be useful as well. Welcome aboard. N -- There's some milk in the fridge about to go off. . . and there it goes. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun May 16 4:17:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD60C152CE for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 04:14:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) id MAA63015; Sun, 16 May 1999 12:01:43 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 12:01:43 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Greg Black Cc: Nik Clayton , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FDP Directory Reorganisation Message-ID: <19990516120143.B62097@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19990513211458.B70767@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <19990515053146.27873.qmail@alice.gba.oz.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990515053146.27873.qmail@alice.gba.oz.au>; from Greg Black on Sat, May 15, 1999 at 03:31:46PM +1000 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, May 15, 1999 at 03:31:46PM +1000, Greg Black wrote: > Speaking from the perspective of somebody who is new to FreeBSD > (but who expects to be here for the long haul), I find a problem > with the distinction between "articles" and "books" -- as I read > the proposal, the only distinction between these directories is > that "books" are longer. Pretty much, yeah. I'm happy to drop the distinction. > I quite understand the intention behind this reorganisation, but > I fear that it may go too far in complexity if the "articles" > and "books" distinction is retained. Of course, the underlying > issue may be that there are too many entries to work well in a > single directory. If that is the case, then surely it would be > better to divide it up by some kind of topic-based plan. I thought about a topic based approach. However, there are going to be some documents that just don't fit under a single topic (the FAQ, for example). Actually coming up with those categories is also a hard problem, and will probably lead to people having to hunt for a specific piece of documentation trying to guess which category it's under. So I decided against organising by topics. N -- There's some milk in the fridge about to go off. . . and there it goes. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun May 16 4:17:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 916E8152D9; Sun, 16 May 1999 04:17:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) id BAA82832; Sun, 16 May 1999 01:02:13 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 01:02:13 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Wolfram Schneider Cc: nclayton@lehman.com, Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Can't build handbook Message-ID: <19990516010213.A81732@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19990508141141.A20366@holly.dyndns.org> <19990508231333.45191@panke.de.freebsd.org> <19990510111306.I14492@lehman.com> <199905110749.AAA28713@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> <19990513130423.49638@panke.de.freebsd.org> <19990513124039.N14492@lehman.com> <19990515190712.02032@panke.de.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990515190712.02032@panke.de.freebsd.org>; from Wolfram Schneider on Sat, May 15, 1999 at 07:07:12PM +0200 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, May 15, 1999 at 07:07:12PM +0200, Wolfram Schneider wrote: > On 1999-05-13 12:40:39 +0100, nclayton@lehman.com wrote: > > Yes, if they check it out anywhere other than /usr/doc they will need > > to set DOC_PREFIX. As I've already explained, this is a hack that will > > (eventually) go away. In the meantime we can do one of two things; > > Some weeks ago it was possible to checkout the handbook > and compile it: > > $ cvs co handbook; cd handbook; make > > No it is no longer possible. You have to checkout either the > whole doc tree or know exactly which sub-directories you need: Indeed. Much like the ports tree (try building anything in there without ports/Mk/*). > $ cvs co doc/en/handbook doc/sgml doc/share doc/en/share > $ cd doc/en/handbook; make You shouldn't need doc/sgml at all. The idea is that you will be able to say To build any piece of documentation you have to have the following; doc/share/* doc/./share/* doc/./{books,articles}/document-to-build > and set the DOC_PREFIX variable to $PWD/doc. > > I'm not surprised that we are getting complaints and the > documentation pages are more often broken ;-( I'm not sure. Yes, more people are asking for information on how to do it, but we're also being more agressive in trying to get people to contribute in the first place. More people contributing leads to more people trying out the build system, and potentially not understanding. I'll say for the record that post-directory reorganisation the DOC_PREFIX hack will go. > > 2. Stick in some code that checks for an empty DOC_PREFIX, and advises > > the user on how to fix it. Or better yet, looks in DOC_PREFIX > > first the make sure the appropriate files are there, and warns the > > user if they aren't. > > > > I posted code that does this earlier on in this thread. > > > > I think option 2 is the best way to go. We can keep /usr/doc as the > > default, and it will work if the user has been storing a checked out > > copy in /usr/doc. If they haven't then the DOC_PREFIX test will discover > > that, abort the build, and print instructions about what they should do. > > I prefer option 2). I'll try and code this up tomorrow. N -- There's some milk in the fridge about to go off. . . and there it goes. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun May 16 4:20:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ABDA152D9 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 04:20:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) id MAA64278; Sun, 16 May 1999 12:12:03 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 12:12:03 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Wolfram Schneider Cc: "Andrey A. Chernov" , Kazuo Horikawa , nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk, ru-freebsd-doc@freebsd.ru, doc@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-translate@ngo.org.uk, hanai@jp.freebsd.org Subject: Re: [RU-DOC] FDP Directory Reorganization Message-ID: <19990516121203.C62097@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19990514204302.B43389@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <19990515222516E.k-horik@yk.rim.or.jp> <19990515174717.A656@nagual.pp.ru> <19990516000424.48809@panke.de.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990516000424.48809@panke.de.freebsd.org>; from Wolfram Schneider on Sun, May 16, 1999 at 12:04:24AM +0200 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'll address a couple of points here; On Sun, May 16, 1999 at 12:04:24AM +0200, Wolfram Schneider wrote: > On 1999-05-15 17:47:17 +0400, Andrey A. Chernov wrote: > > But I don't think it really happens for documentation, so it seems that > > / scheme is right. Maybe even . if people > > choose only one encoding for documentation, but *not* simple > > (assuming some unknown default encoding) which means that program can't > > sense it. > > I prefer . > > or just for translations in iso8859-1 character set. People seem to be agreeing that . is the way to go, and I'm happy to follow that, particularly based on the contents of /usr/share/locale. There will *not* be a default encoding. We've made that mistake once. iso8859-1 should not be a special case just because it's the default English encoding. Special cases are bad, they lead to work arounds for that special case that inevitable need to be changed when the thing you're special casing for changes. Suppose iso8859-1 was the default, and all the Makefiles, CGI scripts, and so on default to it. And then we switch to Unicode a few years down the line. We'd have to go through however many Makefiles, CGI scripts, and whatever have grown up since then to teach them about the new default. Far better to explicitly state the language and the encoding up front. Even for languages where there is only (currently) one encoding used. The only unaddressed question I think is, do we need the country information in the name as well? I don't think so, as en_GB.ISO_8859-1 and en_US.ISO_8859-1 will be the same text. However, does this assumption hold for all the other languages that we'll be dealing with? What's prompted all this is that some of the Chinese translators want to make documentation available in both EUC and BIG5 encoding. The /usr/share/locale directory has zh_CN.EUC and zh_TW.BIG5. Notice that the country selector is different. Do we need to follow this, or can we collapse it to zh.EUC and zh.BIG5? If we can't collapse it then, for consistency, all the other directory names will need to include the country selector as well. N -- There's some milk in the fridge about to go off. . . and there it goes. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun May 16 4:38:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blues.ghis.net (pppc1-34.eisa.net.au [203.166.251.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8C311534F for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 04:37:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@blues.ghis.net) Received: (from jim@localhost) by blues.ghis.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA22060; Sun, 16 May 1999 21:35:34 +1000 (EST) Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 21:35:32 +1000 From: Jim Mock To: Nik Clayton Cc: Jesus Rodriguez , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: freebsd.org domain Message-ID: <19990516213532.A22023@blues.ghis.net> Reply-To: jim@blues.ghis.net References: <19990516121320.D62097@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990516121320.D62097@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 16 May 1999 at 12:13:20 +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: > On Sat, May 15, 1999 at 08:05:49PM +0200, Jesus Rodriguez wrote: > > Looking at mirrors page on handbook, i can see these "differents > > domains": > > > > freebsd.org > > freebsd.ORG > > FreeBSD.org > > FreeBSD.ORG > > > > Can we use *only one*?, which one? > > Personal preference, in order > > freebsd.org > FreeBSD.org > FreeBSD.ORG > freebsd.ORG > > Anyone else? Agreed. I say either freebsd.org or FreeBSD.org. -- - Jim Mock - jim@blues.ghis.net - systems administrator - ghis.NET - - work: http://www.ghis.net/ - personal: http://www.ghis.net/~jim/ - - FreeBSD 'zine: http://www.freebsdzine.org/ - jim@freebsdzine.org - - FreeBSD: http://advocacy.freebsd.org/ - jim@advocacy.FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun May 16 4:45:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz (mta.xtra.co.nz [203.96.92.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40A4C15389 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 04:45:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from junkmale@pop3.xtra.co.nz) Received: from wocker ([210.55.152.128]) by mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz (InterMail v04.00.02.07 201-227-108) with SMTP id <19990516114732.KNLX7471167.mta1-rme@wocker>; Sun, 16 May 1999 23:47:32 +1200 From: "Dan Langille" Organization: The FreeBSD Diary To: Nik Clayton Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 23:45:16 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: freebsd.org domain Reply-To: junkmale@xtra.co.nz Cc: doc@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <19990516121320.D62097@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: ; from Jesus Rodriguez on Sat, May 15, 1999 at 08:05:49PM +0200 X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) Message-Id: <19990516114732.KNLX7471167.mta1-rme@wocker> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 16 May 99, at 12:13, Nik Clayton wrote: > Personal preference, in order > > freebsd.org > FreeBSD.org > FreeBSD.ORG > freebsd.ORG > > Anyone else? I figure FreeBSD.org looks best. -- Dan Langille - DVL Software Limited The FreeBSD Diary - http://www.FreeBSDDiary.org/freebsd/ NZ FreeBSD User Group - http://www.nzfug.nz.freebsd.org/ The Racing System - http://www.racingsystem.com/racingsystem.htm To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun May 16 5:14:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.kt.rim.or.jp (mail.kt.rim.or.jp [202.247.130.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B75115407 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 05:14:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kuriyama@sky.rim.or.jp) Received: from moon.sky.rim.or.jp (ppp351.kt.rim.or.jp [202.247.140.51]) by mail.kt.rim.or.jp (8.8.8/3.6W-RIMNET-98-06-09) with ESMTP id VAA03227; Sun, 16 May 1999 21:14:22 +0900 (JST) Received: from sky.rim.or.jp (earth.sky.rim.or.jp [192.168.1.2]) by moon.sky.rim.or.jp (8.8.8/3.5Wpl4/moon-1.0) with ESMTP id VAA21983; Sun, 16 May 1999 21:14:13 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <373EB660.A6706EC5@sky.rim.or.jp> Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 21:13:20 +0900 From: Jun Kuriyama X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [ja] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: "Andrey A. Chernov" , ru-freebsd-doc@freebsd.ru, freebsd-translate@ngo.org.uk, hanai@jp.freebsd.org Subject: Re: [RU-DOC] FDP Directory Reorganization References: <19990514204302.B43389@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <19990515222516E.k-horik@yk.rim.or.jp> <19990515174717.A656@nagual.pp.ru> <19990516000424.48809@panke.de.freebsd.org> <19990516121203.C62097@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org # I deleted someone who is supposed to read freebsd-doc list from Cc: Nik Clayton wrote: > People seem to be agreeing that . is the way to go, and > I'm happy to follow that, particularly based on the contents of > /usr/share/locale. Of course, when we specify some localized environment, is not enough, . is better thing. But Japanese encodings such as EUC-JP, Shift_JIS and JIS are easily machine-convertable. I don't know of such thing about Chinese encodings. So we should not maintain three "contently same but different encoding" texts in CVS repository. It is waste of disk space and human resource. > However, does this assumption hold for all the other languages that we'll > be dealing with? What's prompted all this is that some of the Chinese > translators want to make documentation available in both EUC and BIG5 > encoding. I think so. I want to know what Chinese translators thinks. > If we can't collapse it then, for consistency, all the other directory > names will need to include the country selector as well. Agreed. (But I don't like such deep directory hierarchy which you proposed :-) -- Jun Kuriyama // kuriyama@sky.rim.or.jp // kuriyama@FreeBSD.ORG To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun May 16 6: 6:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1DBF152F3 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 06:05:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) id NAA75078; Sun, 16 May 1999 13:37:20 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 13:37:19 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Jun Kuriyama Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG, "Andrey A. Chernov" , ru-freebsd-doc@freebsd.ru, freebsd-translate@ngo.org.uk, hanai@jp.freebsd.org Subject: Re: [RU-DOC] FDP Directory Reorganization Message-ID: <19990516133719.E62097@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19990514204302.B43389@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <19990515222516E.k-horik@yk.rim.or.jp> <19990515174717.A656@nagual.pp.ru> <19990516000424.48809@panke.de.freebsd.org> <19990516121203.C62097@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <373EB660.A6706EC5@sky.rim.or.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <373EB660.A6706EC5@sky.rim.or.jp>; from Jun Kuriyama on Sun, May 16, 1999 at 09:13:20PM +0900 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, May 16, 1999 at 09:13:20PM +0900, Jun Kuriyama wrote: > Nik Clayton wrote: > > People seem to be agreeing that . is the way to go, and > > I'm happy to follow that, particularly based on the contents of > > /usr/share/locale. > > Of course, when we specify some localized environment, is not > enough, . is better thing. > > But Japanese encodings such as EUC-JP, Shift_JIS and JIS are easily > machine-convertable. I don't know of such thing about Chinese > encodings. OK. All this means is that we only have one Japanese directory, ja.EUC. Just because the Japanese (or any other language) only has one encoding at the moment doesn't mean that we don't need to specify the encoding. We do, because at some point in the future the "default" is going to change, and everything that assumes one default is going to get it wrong. Basically, I don't want some directories to contain versions for different encodings, and others just to assume one encoding. We either let all languages be represented with multiple encodings, or we have one encoding per language, and leave it at that. The latter choice is too restrictive, so we need to let every language be represented with different encodings. Even if some (most) of those languages are currently only represented with one encoding. > So we should not maintain three "contently same but different encoding" > texts in CVS repository. It is waste of disk space and human resource. 100% agreed. N -- There's some milk in the fridge about to go off. . . and there it goes. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun May 16 7:37:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from deep-thought.demos.su (deep-thought.demos.su [194.87.1.76]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD0711509F; Sun, 16 May 1999 07:37:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ache@deep-thought.demos.su) Received: (from ache@localhost) by deep-thought.demos.su (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA15825; Sun, 16 May 1999 18:36:44 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from ache) Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 18:36:44 +0400 From: "Andrey A. Chernov" To: horikawa@jp.freebsd.org Cc: nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk, ru-freebsd-doc@freebsd.ru, doc@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-translate@ngo.org.uk, asami@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [RU-DOC] FDP Directory Reorganization Message-ID: <19990516183643.A15766@nagual.pp.ru> References: <19990515180910.A1012@nagual.pp.ru> <19990516181607K.k-horik@yk.rim.or.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990516181607K.k-horik@yk.rim.or.jp>; from horikawa@jp.freebsd.org on Sun, May 16, 1999 at 06:16:07PM +0900 Organization: Biomechanoid Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, May 16, 1999 at 06:16:07PM +0900, horikawa@jp.freebsd.org wrote: > So, if we type `LANG=ja_JP.SJIS jman ls' (*1): What you describe is a hack based on indirect assumtions and autoconversions in ja-* programs family. All indirect assumptions must be direct. > If we must have Japanese manpages in both man/ja_JP.EUC and > man/ja_JP.SJIS instead of single directory man/ja, we will have both > man/ja_JP.EUC/ls.1.gz and man/ja_JP.SJIS/ls.1.gz. It doubles disk > usage to support both locales. I know that some commercial OS have I not suggest to have two directories, you can still have one directory but with suffix which indicate encoding of stored files instead of indirect assumtion for them. Autoconversion programs must be fixed to handle such simple case. In current situation there is no way to determine encoding of stored files from outside since encoding tag not presend in the file bodies, so EUC encoding must be hardcoded into all programs. What happens if we switch to UTF-8? -- Andrey A. Chernov http://nagual.pp.ru/~ache/ MTH/SH/HE S-- W-- N+ PEC>+ D A a++ C G>+ QH+(++) 666+>++ Y To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun May 16 8:53:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from imap.ncsa.es (imap.ncsa.es [194.179.50.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6131314E7E for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 08:53:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesusr@ncsa.es) Received: from ender.ncsa.es (ender.ncsa.es [194.179.50.15]) by imap.ncsa.es (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA02657; Sun, 16 May 1999 17:53:19 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <19990516213532.A22023@blues.ghis.net> Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 17:51:53 +0200 (CEST) Reply-To: jesusr@ncsa.es Organization: Nexus Comunicaciones, S.A. From: Jesus Rodriguez To: Jim Mock Subject: Re: freebsd.org domain Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG, Nik Clayton Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 16-May-99 Jim Mock wrote: >> Personal preference, in order >> >> freebsd.org >> FreeBSD.org >> FreeBSD.ORG >> freebsd.ORG >> >> Anyone else? > > Agreed. I say either freebsd.org or FreeBSD.org. Well, i prefer freebsd.org too, so seems it wins. If there is not problem (Nik?), i'll replace "domains" with freebsd.org. JesusR. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun May 16 9: 0: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45E0715014 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 09:00:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id JAA67682; Sun, 16 May 1999 09:00:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from icc.surw.chel.su (surw.chel.su [195.54.2.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2AA014E7E for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 08:51:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andy@icc.surw.chel.su) Received: (from andy@localhost) by icc.surw.chel.su (8.9.2/8.8.8) id TAA32285; Sun, 16 May 1999 19:51:30 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from andy) Message-Id: <199905161551.TAA32285@icc.surw.chel.su> Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 19:51:30 +0400 (MSD) From: Andrey Zakhvatov Reply-To: andy@icc.surw.chel.su To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/11733: Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/admin.sgml Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11733 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/admin.sgml >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun May 16 09:00:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Andrey Zakhvatov >Release: FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE i386 >Organization: South Ural Railway ICC >Environment: >Description: This is a patch to sync doc/ru/FAQ/admin.sgml with English 1.22. begin 644 admin.diff M+2TM("]H;VUE+V%N9'DO;F-V2`Q-B`Q.3HT-SHS,R`Q M.3DY"D!`("TQ+#0@*S$L-"!`0`HM/"$M+2`D260Z(&%D;6EN+G-G;6PL=B`Q M+C4@,3DY.2\P-"\P-2`Q,#HP,3HT."!W;W-C:"!%>'`@)"`M+3X**SPA+2T@ M)$ED.B!A9&UI;BYS9VUL+'8@,2XQ-R`Q.3DY+S`U+S$V(#$U.C0W.C,S(&%N M9'D@17AP("0@+2T^"B`\(2TM(%1H92!&U,\@ MT2#.Q2#7R,_6U2#7(')O;W0@04-,/PHK("`@("`@/"]H96%D:6YG/@H@"BT@ M("`\Q=/4U\\@S<_6SL\@U=G%S,G>R=38(-/,Q<35P-W)S2#/PM+! MVL_-.@HK("`@("`@/'`^Y=/,R2#5(-?!TR#-SL_'SR#0S\S8VL_7P=3%S,7* M+"#2P<+/U,'`W7%C(&YO;F4@;F5T=V]R:PHK M("`@("`@/"]V97)B/@H@"BT@("`@/'`^\,_2T<3/RR#.P=K.P=[%SLG1(,+5 MR]<@T-+)(-K!T,G3R2#7(-?)Q,4@TL7'UQ<[)T2#"UR=3!U-@@T\_$Q=+6 MRHow-To-Repeat: >Fix: Please, check and apply this patch, but don't forget to say in commit message about syncing with English 1.22 >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun May 16 9:48:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp13.bellglobal.com (smtp13.bellglobal.com [204.101.251.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2C7314BB8 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 09:48:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vanderh@ecf.toronto.edu) Received: from localhost.nowhere (ppp18393.on.bellglobal.com [206.172.130.73]) by smtp13.bellglobal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA25419; Sun, 16 May 1999 12:49:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from tim@localhost) by localhost.nowhere (8.9.3/8.9.1) id MAA43378; Sun, 16 May 1999 12:49:07 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from tim) Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 12:49:07 -0400 From: Tim Vanderhoek To: Jesus Rodriguez Cc: Jim Mock , doc@FreeBSD.ORG, Nik Clayton Subject: Re: freebsd.org domain Message-ID: <19990516124906.B43261@mAd> References: <19990516213532.A22023@blues.ghis.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: ; from Jesus Rodriguez on Sun, May 16, 1999 at 05:51:53PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, May 16, 1999 at 05:51:53PM +0200, Jesus Rodriguez wrote: > > Well, i prefer freebsd.org too, so seems it wins. "freebsd.org" sucks. Try a quick frequency count from the list archives or through the handbook or something. I say FreeBSD.org or FreeBSD.ORG is much better. -- This .sig is not innovative, witty, or profund. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun May 16 10: 4:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from imap.ncsa.es (imap.ncsa.es [194.179.50.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A099014F5A for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 10:04:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesusr@ncsa.es) Received: from ender.ncsa.es (ender.ncsa.es [194.179.50.15]) by imap.ncsa.es (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA36444; Sun, 16 May 1999 19:03:45 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <19990516124906.B43261@mAd> Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 19:02:19 +0200 (CEST) Reply-To: jesusr@ncsa.es Organization: Nexus Comunicaciones, S.A. From: Jesus Rodriguez To: Tim Vanderhoek Subject: Re: freebsd.org domain Cc: Nik Clayton , doc@FreeBSD.ORG, Jim Mock Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 16-May-99 Tim Vanderhoek wrote: > On Sun, May 16, 1999 at 05:51:53PM +0200, Jesus Rodriguez wrote: >> >> Well, i prefer freebsd.org too, so seems it wins. > > "freebsd.org" sucks. > > Try a quick frequency count from the list archives or through the > handbook or something. > > I say FreeBSD.org or FreeBSD.ORG is much better. This is the actual status: ender# pwd /usr/cvs/doc/en/handbook ender# grep freebsd.org *.html | wc -l 197 ender# grep FreeBSD.org *.html | wc -l 57 ender# grep FreeBSD.ORG *.html | wc -l 562 ender# pwd /usr/cvs/doc/FAQ ender# grep freebsd.org *.html | wc -l 166 ender# grep FreeBSD.org *.html | wc -l 5 ender# grep FreeBSD.ORG *.html | wc -l 19 JesusR. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun May 16 12:20:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AE4514F59 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 12:20:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) id SAA08437; Sun, 16 May 1999 18:06:35 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 18:06:34 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Jesus Rodriguez Cc: Jim Mock , doc@FreeBSD.ORG, Nik Clayton Subject: Re: freebsd.org domain Message-ID: <19990516180634.A7790@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19990516213532.A22023@blues.ghis.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: ; from Jesus Rodriguez on Sun, May 16, 1999 at 05:51:53PM +0200 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, May 16, 1999 at 05:51:53PM +0200, Jesus Rodriguez wrote: > On 16-May-99 Jim Mock wrote: > >> Personal preference, in order > >> > >> freebsd.org > >> FreeBSD.org > >> FreeBSD.ORG > >> freebsd.ORG > >> > >> Anyone else? > > > > Agreed. I say either freebsd.org or FreeBSD.org. > > Well, i prefer freebsd.org too, so seems it wins. > > If there is not problem (Nik?), i'll replace "domains" with freebsd.org. I'd run it past -core first (core@freebsd.org). Don't send it to -hackers, or -current, or -chat, 'cos that'll only spark a 300 message discussion, and we can probably do without that. N -- There's some milk in the fridge about to go off. . . and there it goes. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun May 16 13:55: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail10.svr.pol.co.uk (mail10.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.214]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8D0B14F1F for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 13:54:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@eborcom.com) Received: from modem-34.toothbrush.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.124.34] ident=[OjSOEeQHvhtcKs67eELsaZQ2dXSOya+e]) by mail10.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10j7vv-0004Fr-00 for doc@freebsd.org; Sun, 16 May 1999 21:54:52 +0100 Received: (qmail 389 invoked by uid 5000); 16 May 1999 19:58:42 -0000 Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 20:58:42 +0100 From: Tom Hukins To: Jesus Rodriguez Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd.org domain Message-ID: <19990516205842.A355@eborcom.com> Mail-Followup-To: Jesus Rodriguez , doc@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: ; from Jesus Rodriguez on Sat, May 15, 1999 at 08:05:49PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, May 15, 1999 at 08:05:49PM +0200, Jesus Rodriguez wrote: > Looking at mirrors page on handbook, i can see these "differents domains": > > freebsd.org > freebsd.ORG > FreeBSD.org > FreeBSD.ORG > > Can we use *only one*?, which one? I'm going to "me too" with freebsd.org, but for a reason: If I say a Web site's address to someone, I know from watching them type that they usually type the address in lower case. There are probably several reasons why we should aim to have people refer to the site consistently. One that springs to my mind is that some caching software takes an MD5 sum of the URL, so will think that FreeBSD.org and freebsd.org are different. One issue other than changing URLs in documents under www.freebsd.org is that the main logo on the Web site specifies FreeBSD.org. This logo would also need changing if we wish to be consistent. Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun May 16 14:30: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF31315003 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 14:30:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id OAA92001; Sun, 16 May 1999 14:30:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from leap.innerx.net (leap.innerx.net [38.179.176.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E05D14C0F for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 14:22:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@holly.dyndns.org) Received: from holly.dyndns.org (ip150.houston13.tx.pub-ip.psi.net [38.27.213.150]) by leap.innerx.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 401EC370A9 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 17:22:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA05625; Sun, 16 May 1999 16:24:10 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from chris) Message-Id: <199905162124.QAA05625@holly.dyndns.org> Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 16:24:10 -0500 (CDT) From: Chris Costello Reply-To: chris@calldei.com To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/11738: Wrong email address in contrib/chapter.sgml Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11738 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Wrong email address in contrib/chapter.sgml >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun May 16 14:30:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Chris Costello >Release: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: none. >Environment: Not relevant. >Description: My email address in contrib/chapter.sgml is chris@holly.dyndns.org; that address is usually unreliable. >How-To-Repeat: View http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/contrib-additional.html >Fix: Index: chapter.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en/handbook/contrib/chapter.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.37 diff -u -r1.37 chapter.sgml --- chapter.sgml 1999/05/11 07:44:46 1.37 +++ chapter.sgml 1999/05/16 20:43:46 @@ -1609,7 +1609,7 @@ - Chris Costello chris@holly.dyndns.org + Chris Costello chris@calldei.com >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun May 16 15:54:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65EA414C96; Sun, 16 May 1999 15:54:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id PAA97395; Sun, 16 May 1999 15:54:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 15:54:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199905162254.PAA97395@freefall.freebsd.org> To: chris@calldei.com, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/11738: Wrong email address in contrib/chapter.sgml Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Wrong email address in contrib/chapter.sgml State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Sun May 16 15:53:36 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Fixed. Chris, note that whatever system you sent this PR from is configured to give you an address of . You should look at fixing this. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun May 16 16:10:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp13.bellglobal.com (smtp13.bellglobal.com [204.101.251.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6694015030 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 16:10:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vanderh@ecf.toronto.edu) Received: from localhost.nowhere (Hamilton-ppp44868.sympatico.ca [206.172.76.61]) by smtp13.bellglobal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA28030; Sun, 16 May 1999 19:11:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from tim@localhost) by localhost.nowhere (8.9.3/8.9.1) id TAA44729; Sun, 16 May 1999 19:11:29 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from tim) Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 19:11:29 -0400 From: Tim Vanderhoek To: Jesus Rodriguez Cc: Nik Clayton , doc@FreeBSD.ORG, Jim Mock Subject: Re: freebsd.org domain Message-ID: <19990516191128.A44672@mAd> References: <19990516124906.B43261@mAd> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: ; from Jesus Rodriguez on Sun, May 16, 1999 at 07:02:19PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, May 16, 1999 at 07:02:19PM +0200, Jesus Rodriguez wrote: > > ender# grep freebsd.org *.html | wc -l > 197 > ender# grep FreeBSD.org *.html | wc -l > 57 > ender# grep FreeBSD.ORG *.html | wc -l > 562 [conveniently clipping FAQ stats, which had far fewer references, anyways]. I think that says it all. For more fun, try going through all of the ports that have maintainers at @[Ff]ree[Bb][Ss][Dd].[Oo][Rr][gG] and count those. I think those stats will be even stronger in favour of FreeBSD.ORG. :-) -- This .sig is not innovative, witty, or profund. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun May 16 19: 4:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9F791533B for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 19:04:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id LAA23606; Mon, 17 May 1999 11:34:10 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) id LAA87859; Mon, 17 May 1999 11:34:10 +0930 (CST) Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 11:34:10 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Nik Clayton Cc: Jesus Rodriguez , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: freebsd.org domain Message-ID: <19990517113410.O89091@freebie.lemis.com> References: <19990516121320.D62097@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990516121320.D62097@catkin.nothing-going-on.org>; from Nik Clayton on Sun, May 16, 1999 at 12:13:20PM +0100 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sunday, 16 May 1999 at 12:13:20 +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: > On Sat, May 15, 1999 at 08:05:49PM +0200, Jesus Rodriguez wrote: >> Looking at mirrors page on handbook, i can see these "differents domains": >> >> freebsd.org >> freebsd.ORG >> FreeBSD.org >> FreeBSD.ORG >> >> Can we use *only one*?, which one? > > Personal preference, in order > > freebsd.org > FreeBSD.org > FreeBSD.ORG > freebsd.ORG FreeBSD.org. All others come so far back that I wouldn't speak of an "order". Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun May 16 22:30: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDE2F1522B for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 22:30:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id WAA31646; Sun, 16 May 1999 22:30:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from leap.innerx.net (leap.innerx.net [38.179.176.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C06E214F6B for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 22:28:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@holly.dyndns.org) Received: from holly.dyndns.org (ip150.houston13.tx.pub-ip.psi.net [38.27.213.150]) by leap.innerx.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26C003706D for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 01:28:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA10314; Mon, 17 May 1999 00:29:34 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from chris) Message-Id: <199905170529.AAA10314@holly.dyndns.org> Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 00:29:34 -0500 (CDT) From: chris@calldei.com Reply-To: chris@calldei.com To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/11740: [Patch] doc/en/handbook/patch/chapter.sgml has various bugs (sorry Nik!) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11740 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [Patch] doc/en/handbook/patch/chapter.sgml has various bugs (sorry Nik!) >Confidential: no >Severity: serious >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun May 16 22:30:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Chris Costello >Release: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: CVS Diff Express, Inc. >Environment: Doc tree, CVSupped around 1:00 PM on 17 May. >Description: To make the handbook work like Nik's doc tutorial, I've changed many contractions to their respective expanded meanings. To keep the documentation up with the software, I have also updated the __FreeBSD_version table to include the latest -CURRENT changes and the introduction of 3.2-STABLE. >How-To-Repeat: http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/ports.html >Fix: Index: chapter.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en/handbook/ports/chapter.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.17 diff -u -1 -r1.17 chapter.sgml --- chapter.sgml 1999/05/16 13:28:26 1.17 +++ chapter.sgml 1999/05/17 05:17:37 @@ -119,3 +119,3 @@ - Fear not, gentle reader, all will become clear (hopefully). Let's + Fear not, gentle reader, all will become clear (hopefully). Let us see what happens if we try and install a port. I have chosen @@ -313,4 +313,4 @@ - Let's try something more ambitious now. Instead of getting a - single port skeleton, let's get a whole sub-directory, for example all + Let us try something more ambitious now. Instead of getting a + single port skeleton, we will get a whole sub-directory, for example all the database skeletons in the ports collection. It looks almost the @@ -764,3 +764,3 @@ used the option as well. - (Most of the ports don't use ). You + (Most of the ports do not use ). You should be able to specify the compiler options @@ -796,3 +796,3 @@ system suddenly stopped compiling it and starting compiling the - bar port. What's going on? + bar port. What is going on? @@ -948,3 +948,3 @@ include. Please refer to that file for more details on the inner - workings of the ports collection. Even if you don't hack Makefiles + workings of the ports collection. Even if you do not hack Makefiles daily, it is well commented, and you will still gain much knowledge from @@ -1179,3 +1179,3 @@ - Make sure that there aren't any warnings issued in any of the + Make sure that there are not any warnings issued in any of the package and @@ -1660,3 +1660,3 @@ If the patch is distributed with some other files, such as - documentation, in a gzip'd tarball, you can't just use + documentation, in a gzip'd tarball, you cannot just use PATCHFILES. If that is the case, add the name @@ -1849,3 +1849,3 @@ some versions of FreeBSD has perl5 as part of the base system - while others don't.) + while others do not.) @@ -1996,3 +1996,3 @@ /usr/local/lib and similar to an - aout subdirectory. (If you don't move them out + aout subdirectory. (If you do not move them out of the way, ELF ports will happily overwrite a.out libraries.) The @@ -2260,3 +2260,3 @@ NO_INSTALL_MANPAGES is not set, and to - no otherwise. You don't have to explicitly define + no otherwise. You do not have to explicitly define it unless the default is not suitable for your port. @@ -2315,3 +2315,3 @@ If your port requires Motif, define this variable in the - Makefile. This will prevent people who don't own a copy of Motif + Makefile. This will prevent people who do not own a copy of Motif from even attempting to build it. @@ -2405,3 +2405,3 @@ @dircategory and @direntry - statements to files that don't have them. This is part of my + statements to files that do not have them. This is part of my patch: @@ -2449,3 +2449,3 @@ to use the extra arguments to install-info - because makeinfo can't handle those texinfo + because makeinfo cannot handle those texinfo sources. (See Makefile and @@ -2461,3 +2461,3 @@ make; but many Makefiles - don't include correct dependencies for info files. In + do not include correct dependencies for info files. In emacs' case, I had to patch the main @@ -2585,5 +2585,5 @@ /usr/share/info/dir and the above command to - create a new info file. In fact, I'd add the first three lines of - the above patch to bsd.port.mk if you (the - porter) wouldn't have to do it in PLIST by + create a new info file. In fact, I would add the first three lines + of the above patch to bsd.port.mk if you (the + porter) would not have to do it in PLIST by yourself anyway. @@ -2645,3 +2645,3 @@ - There are some tricks we haven't mentioned yet about the + There are some tricks we have not mentioned yet about the pkg/ subdirectory that come in handy @@ -2849,3 +2849,3 @@ license, set the variable NO_CDROM to a string - describing the reason why. We will make sure such ports won't go + describing the reason why. We will make sure such ports will not go into the CD-ROM come release time. The distfile and package will @@ -2856,6 +2856,6 @@ If the resulting package needs to be built uniquely for each - site, or the resulting binary package can't be distributed due to + site, or the resulting binary package cannot be distributed due to licensing; set the variable NO_PACKAGE to a string describing the reason why. We will make sure such packages - won't go on the ftp site, nor into the CD-ROM come release time. + will not go on the ftp site, nor into the CD-ROM come release time. The distfile will still be included on both however. @@ -2898,3 +2898,3 @@ - If the maintainer asks you to do the upgrade or there isn't any + If the maintainer asks you to do the upgrade or there is not any such person to begin with, please make the upgrade and send the @@ -2971,3 +2971,3 @@ INSTALL_MAN is a command to install - manpages and other documentation (it doesn't compress + manpages and other documentation (it does not compress anything). @@ -2998,3 +2998,3 @@ Make sure your port honors WRKDIRPREFIX. - Most ports don't have to worry about this. In particular, if you + Most ports do not have to worry about this. In particular, if you are referring to a WRKDIR of another port, note @@ -3033,3 +3033,3 @@ sys/param.h. If you find a system that - doesn't, we would like to know. Please send mail to the + does not, we would like to know. Please send mail to the &a.ports;. @@ -3044,3 +3044,3 @@ - Don't forget to add -DHAVE_SYS_PARAM_H to the + Do not forget to add -DHAVE_SYS_PARAM_H to the CFLAGS in the Makefile for @@ -3301,2 +3301,12 @@ + + + 3.1-STABLE after C++ constructor/destructor order change + 310002 + + + + 3.2-STABLE + 320001 + @@ -3306,2 +3316,28 @@ + + + 4.0-CURRENT after change in dynamic linker handling + 400001 + + + + 4.0-CURRENT after C++ constructor/destructor order change + 400002 + + + + 4.0-CURRENT after functioning dladdr(3) + 400003 + + + + 4.0-CURRENT after newbus + 400004 + + + + 4.0-CURRENT after suser(9) API change + 400005 + + @@ -3319,3 +3355,3 @@ it infeasible to classify the releases simply by their real - release dates. If you are making a port now, you don't have to + release dates. If you are making a port now, you do not have to worry about old -CURRENTs; they are listed here just for your @@ -3343,3 +3379,3 @@ pre.mk/post.mk pair or - bsd.port.mk only; don't mix these two. + bsd.port.mk only; do not mix these two. @@ -3553,3 +3589,3 @@ diff to generate patches is fine, but please take - a look at the resulting patches to make sure you don't have any + a look at the resulting patches to make sure you do not have any unnecessary junk in there. In particular, diffs between two backup @@ -3689,3 +3725,3 @@ - Make sure you don't use a UID already used by the system or + Make sure you do not use a UID already used by the system or other ports. This is the current list of UIDs between 50 and @@ -3736,3 +3772,3 @@ The port should respect the CFLAGS variable. - If it doesn't, please add NO_PACKAGE=ignores + If it does not, please add NO_PACKAGE=ignores cflags to the Makefile. @@ -3783,6 +3819,6 @@ - Don't copy more copies of the GNU General Public License into + Do not copy more copies of the GNU General Public License into our system, please. - Please be careful to note any legal issues! Don't let us + Please be careful to note any legal issues! Do not let us illegally distribute software! @@ -3843,3 +3879,3 @@ [do not forget the trailing slash ("/")! - if you aren't using MASTER_SITE_* macros] + if you are not using MASTER_SITE_* macros] MASTER_SITES= ${MASTER_SITE_XCONTRIB} @@ -3909,3 +3945,3 @@ - If your DISTNAME doesn't look like that, set + If your DISTNAME does not look like that, set PKGNAME to something in that format. @@ -4171,4 +4207,4 @@ Development utilities. Do not put libraries here just - because they are libraries—unless they truly don't - belong to anywhere else, they shouldn't be in this + because they are libraries—unless they truly do not + belong to anywhere else, they should not be in this category. @@ -4253,3 +4289,3 @@ Miscellaneous utilities—basically things that - doesn't belong to anywhere else. This is the only category + does not belong to anywhere else. This is the only category that should not appear with any other non-virtual category. @@ -4444,3 +4480,3 @@ instance, an HTML editor should be listed as www - editors, not the other way around. Also, you don't + editors, not the other way around. Also, you do not need to list net when the port belongs to >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon May 17 0: 3:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from hitpro.hitachi.co.jp (hitpro.hitachi.co.jp [133.145.224.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E931D14C38; Mon, 17 May 1999 00:03:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from horikawa@ebina.hitachi.co.jp) Received: from newton.ebina.hitachi.co.jp by hitpro.hitachi.co.jp (8.9.1a/3.7W-hitpro) id QAA04523; Mon, 17 May 1999 16:01:45 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (horikawa@[172.16.103.145]) by newton.ebina.hitachi.co.jp (8.9.0/3.7W-EBINA) with ESMTP id QAA05818; Mon, 17 May 1999 16:01:48 +0900 (JST) To: ache@nagual.pp.ru, asami@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: horikawa@jp.freebsd.org, nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk, ru-freebsd-doc@freebsd.ru, doc@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-translate@ngo.org.uk From: Kazuo Horikawa Subject: Replace man/ja with man/ja_JP.EUC (FDP Directory Reorganization) In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 16 May 1999 18:36:44 +0400" <19990516183643.A15766@nagual.pp.ru> References: <19990516183643.A15766@nagual.pp.ru> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.93 on Emacs 19.34 / Mule 2.3 (SUETSUMUHANA) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19990517160148W.horikawa@ebina.hitachi.co.jp> Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 16:01:48 +0900 (JST) X-Dispatcher: imput version 980923(IM101) Lines: 24 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >>>>> In article <19990516183643.A15766@nagual.pp.ru>, "Andrey A. Chernov" writes: > I not suggest to have two directories, you can still have one directory > but with suffix which indicate encoding of stored files instead of > indirect assumtion for them. I understand that we need not have more than one subdirectory under man/ to store Japanese online manuals. I think that replacing /usr/share/man/ja with /usr/share/man/ja_JP.EUC could be done easily (by modification of doc/ja/man/Makefile.inc and src/etc/mtree/BSD.usr.dist). But, replacing /usr/local/man/ja with /usr/local/man/ja_JP.EUC may not be easy, because this replace forces ports' maintainers to rewrite manpage destinations (all pkg/PLIST which contains man/ja should be modified). Mr. Asami, is this change acceptable for ports team? If man/ja is replaced with man/ja_JP.EUC, new FreeBSD's man command can find ja_JP.EUC manuals under man/ja_JP.EUC. But it cannot show Japanese online manuals, because FreeBSD's groff command and more command cannot handle Japanese text now. This replace do not have merit now, so I personally think that we do not have to replace man/ja with man/ja_JP.EUC now. -- Kazuo Horikawa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon May 17 5: 6:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from capecod.net (camb1107.capecod.net [209.244.250.91]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9287B14D29 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 05:06:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from crtb@capecod.net) Received: (from crtb@localhost) by capecod.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA00481 for doc@freebsd.org; Sun, 16 May 1999 22:46:58 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 22:46:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Message-Id: <199905170246.WAA00481@capecod.net> To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd.org domain Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org (Lurker here) Officially, domain names are case-insensitive. When a URL is given, the domain name's casing is irrelevant. But if a domain name is used in a directory structure, or as part of an identifier, it may be necessary to settle on a canonical casing. In this case I'd suggest the lower case version throughout, even though the mixed-case version is prettier. The lower-case consistence will harmonize with other domain names which may occupy similar data niches. Chuck Bacon -- crtb@capecod.net ABHOR SECRECY -- DEFEND PRIVACY > There are probably several reasons why we should aim to have people > refer to the site consistently. One that springs to my mind is that > some caching software takes an MD5 sum of the URL, so will think > that FreeBSD.org and freebsd.org are different. Bingo. > One issue other than changing URLs in documents under > www.freebsd.org is that the main logo on the Web site specifies > FreeBSD.org. This logo would also need changing if we wish to be > consistent. HREFs and similar uses of domain names should be done consistently in lower case for ease of use by Microsoft and similar poorly written software. Ordinary open-source software lowercases all domain names in URLs before rummaging in a database anyhow! Of course, directory names in a URL must have case preserved. > Tom Chuck Bacon -- crtb@capecod.net ABHOR SECRECY -- DEFEND PRIVACY To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon May 17 5:53:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp11.bellglobal.com (smtp11.bellglobal.com [204.101.251.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31E7214A14 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 05:53:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vanderh@ecf.toronto.edu) Received: from localhost.nowhere (ppp18392.on.bellglobal.com [206.172.130.72]) by smtp11.bellglobal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA18981; Mon, 17 May 1999 08:56:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from tim@localhost) by localhost.nowhere (8.9.3/8.9.1) id IAA07692; Mon, 17 May 1999 08:54:52 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from tim) Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 08:54:51 -0400 From: Tim Vanderhoek To: Chuck Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd.org domain Message-ID: <19990517085451.A7615@mAd> References: <199905170246.WAA00481@capecod.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: <199905170246.WAA00481@capecod.net>; from Chuck on Sun, May 16, 1999 at 10:46:58PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, May 16, 1999 at 10:46:58PM -0400, Chuck wrote: > (Lurker here) > Officially, domain names are case-insensitive. > When a URL is given, the domain name's casing is irrelevant. > But if a domain name is used in a directory structure, or as > part of an identifier, it may be necessary to settle on a canonical > casing. [clip] It's ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/pub/FreeBSD/ not ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/pub/freebsd/. You're right --- using the wrong one would be confusing for people. I agree with you. [ :-) ] -- This .sig is not innovative, witty, or profund. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon May 17 10:30: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from NS.CB-1.de.Contrib.Net (ns.ranet.de [193.203.175.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A35D714DCA for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 10:30:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from m.urban@ranet.de) Received: from default (max9.ranet.de [193.203.176.73] (may be forged)) by NS.CB-1.de.Contrib.Net (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id TAA11749 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 19:34:15 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199905171734.TAA11749@NS.CB-1.de.Contrib.Net> From: "Mario Urban" To: Subject: aic0 driver... Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 19:24:47 +0200 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org aic0 driver is not only for isa-cards needed.... I use it on my notebook for my adaptec apa1460 scsi pcmcia controllers. (till Version 2.2.8) . Now i could not use these devices..... I have an Adaptec Apa 1480 ultra-scsi-pcmcia-Controller too... This is a Cardbus device which i could not use with FreeBSD too... Very fine... Fuck the CAM Fuck NCR Fuck FREEBSD 3.1 A frustrated Mario To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon May 17 11: 0:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2CEA14F95 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 11:00:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id LAA06424 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 17 May 1999 11:00:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 11:00:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905171800.LAA06424@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: peter set sender to owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: FreeBSD doc list Subject: Current unassigned doc problem reports Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Current FreeBSD problem reports The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. Bugs can be in one of several states: o - open A problem report has been submitted, no sanity checking performed. a - analyzed The report has been examined by a team member and evaluated. f - feedback The problem has been solved, and the originator has been given a patch or a fix has been committed. The PR remains in this state pending a response from the originator. s - suspended The problem is not being worked on. This is a prime candidate for somebody who is looking for a project to do. If the problem cannot be solved at all, it will be closed, rather than suspended. c - closed A problem report is closed when any changes have been integrated, documented, and tested. Critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [1999/02/14] docs/10088 doc Documentation search results o [1999/04/26] docs/11348 doc Correction to previous Y2K information 2 problems total. Serious problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [1999/01/22] docs/9618 doc many typos in groff_mm(7) a [1999/02/17] docs/10135 doc Change to Documention Regarding Upgrades o [1999/05/02] docs/11438 doc clueless how to discover my NE2000 clone o [1999/05/08] docs/11595 doc The gencommercial.pl script ignores the l o [1999/05/12] docs/11667 doc fstab options for cd9660 mount not mentio o [1999/05/16] docs/11740 doc [Patch] doc/en/handbook/patch/chapter.sgm 6 problems total. Non-critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- s [1998/01/15] docs/5487 doc Adding documentation for scsi(8) usage wi o [1998/04/14] docs/6295 doc Reference to nonexistent file in Device D o [1998/04/15] docs/6307 doc sgmlfmt not `make -jN' ready o [1998/05/18] docs/6681 doc docu. addition a [1998/07/31] docs/7456 doc dialog(3) man page outdated a [1998/08/31] docs/7791 doc ipf(1) and ipfstat(1) should have been ip o [1998/09/13] docs/7914 doc no elf(5) manpage o [1998/10/25] docs/8445 doc Update of "Installing Mathematica on Free o [1998/11/10] docs/8640 doc proposed change of 4.5 o [1998/11/19] docs/8765 doc some suggested text for describing passwo o [1999/01/06] docs/9352 doc wrong macro names in groff_[ms|mm|mmse].7 o [1999/01/29] docs/9773 doc Handbook 4.7.1.4. "Testing the port" is i o [1999/01/31] docs/9837 doc fix to doc/handbook/porting.sgml o [1999/02/10] docs/10017 doc Added a site and bug fix o [1999/02/11] docs/10038 doc Added a site and bug fix (part two) o [1999/02/14] docs/10084 doc new FreeBSD user group in Yogyakarta City o [1999/02/14] docs/10085 doc NIS Setup Tutorial o [1999/02/14] docs/10098 doc Lack of overall guide for NIS setup o [1999/02/15] docs/10108 doc Addition to fstab.5 o [1999/02/18] docs/10146 doc Release Notes and LINT for 3.1 include ha o [1999/02/21] docs/10180 doc Another mirror site not listed... o [1999/02/21] docs/10182 doc http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?p o [1999/02/25] docs/10240 doc We need a script which check if our web m o [1999/02/25] docs/10256 doc handbook on cvsup... o [1999/03/01] docs/10331 doc pccardd(8) claims FreeBSD does not suppor o [1999/03/03] docs/10378 doc option -s missing in lptcontrol.8 o [1999/03/04] docs/10388 doc Obsolete information in Handbook o [1999/03/05] docs/10403 doc CDE is no longer sold by Xi Graphics. o [1999/03/05] docs/10408 doc [quasi-patch] Grammar nitpicks in Handboo o [1999/03/07] docs/10472 doc Mailing list for discussion of Xircom dri o [1999/03/07] docs/10474 doc A command line in a man document is incom o [1999/03/08] docs/10488 doc Error in entry for 02/27 in calendar.hist o [1999/03/08] docs/10500 doc spell error o [1999/03/09] docs/10512 doc ENOBUFS returnable from writev(2) but not o [1999/03/16] docs/10624 doc typos/innacuracies in wfd(4) man page o [1999/03/18] docs/10659 doc Many syscall man pages have an IMPLEMENTA o [1999/03/18] docs/10660 doc User Group not listed o [1999/03/18] docs/10664 doc Notes on 2.2.8 -> 3.1 migration o [1999/03/21] docs/10704 doc strange sentence in doc/handbook/ctm.sgml o [1999/03/23] docs/10762 doc geocrawler.com mailing list archives o [1999/03/27] docs/10819 doc Documentation add o [1999/03/28] docs/10840 doc [PATCH] Add pcic double-loading bug fix t o [1999/03/28] docs/10847 doc lpbb.4's PostScript output format is brok o [1999/03/29] docs/10850 doc submitting a documentation change for sed o [1999/03/30] docs/10877 doc manpage for objformat incorrectly mention o [1999/04/07] docs/10997 doc Problem with query-pr-summary.cgi o [1999/04/07] docs/11015 doc handbook/mirrors-ftp.html missing NZ serv o [1999/04/08] docs/11028 doc new text for FAQ to explain branches o [1999/04/11] docs/11087 doc Portland FreeBSD users group o [1999/04/11] docs/11089 doc freebsd user group, sydney o [1999/04/11] docs/11090 doc User's group in Melbourne Australia o [1999/04/21] docs/11258 doc suggestion to refine npx.4 o [1999/05/05] docs/11506 doc some typos in dhclient.conf.5 o [1999/05/07] docs/11561 doc a typo in dhclient.conf.5 man-pages o [1999/05/08] docs/11582 doc bug in ip(4) manpage o [1999/05/08] docs/11589 doc Missing #includes in aio_read(2) o [1999/05/08] docs/11596 doc namei(9) says inode, not vnode o [1999/05/09] docs/11607 doc RLIMIT_MEMLOCK not implemented o [1999/05/09] docs/11615 doc Handbook: linux emulation documentation o o [1999/05/11] docs/11643 doc handbook should state alternatives o [1999/05/11] docs/11645 doc The dir(5) manpage does not mention the u o [1999/05/13] docs/11688 doc clarify send-pr categories... o [1999/05/13] docs/11695 doc [Patch] src/share/man/man7/hier.7 is out o [1999/05/13] docs/11704 doc Missing subject of 2nd sentence of third o [1999/05/14] docs/11708 doc dumpon(8) references old device names o [1999/05/14] docs/11709 doc swapon(8) references strange devices o [1999/05/16] docs/11733 doc Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/admin.sgml 67 problems total. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon May 17 11:29:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from hp9000.chc-chimes.com (unknown [206.67.97.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B418015109 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 11:27:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billf@chc-chimes.com) Received: from localhost by hp9000.chc-chimes.com with SMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA272440309; Mon, 17 May 1999 10:11:49 -0400 Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 10:11:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Fumerola To: Nik Clayton Cc: Jesus Rodriguez , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: freebsd.org domain In-Reply-To: <19990516121320.D62097@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 16 May 1999, Nik Clayton wrote: > freebsd.org > FreeBSD.org > FreeBSD.ORG > freebsd.ORG > > Anyone else? FreeBSD.org freebsd.org FreeBSD.ORG freebsd.ORG should never be used. - bill fumerola - billf@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfumerol@computerhorizons.com - billf@FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon May 17 11:41:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52C5D14CC9; Mon, 17 May 1999 11:40:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) id TAA02736; Mon, 17 May 1999 19:39:50 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 19:39:50 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Wolfram Schneider Cc: nclayton@lehman.com, Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Can't build handbook Message-ID: <19990517193950.A2496@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19990508141141.A20366@holly.dyndns.org> <19990508231333.45191@panke.de.freebsd.org> <19990510111306.I14492@lehman.com> <199905110749.AAA28713@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> <19990513130423.49638@panke.de.freebsd.org> <19990513124039.N14492@lehman.com> <19990515190712.02032@panke.de.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990515190712.02032@panke.de.freebsd.org>; from Wolfram Schneider on Sat, May 15, 1999 at 07:07:12PM +0200 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, May 15, 1999 at 07:07:12PM +0200, Wolfram Schneider wrote: > > 2. Stick in some code that checks for an empty DOC_PREFIX, and advises > > the user on how to fix it. Or better yet, looks in DOC_PREFIX > > first the make sure the appropriate files are there, and warns the > > user if they aren't. > > > > I posted code that does this earlier on in this thread. > > > > I think option 2 is the best way to go. We can keep /usr/doc as the > > default, and it will work if the user has been storing a checked out > > copy in /usr/doc. If they haven't then the DOC_PREFIX test will discover > > that, abort the build, and print instructions about what they should do. > > I prefer option 2). Here's a trivial patch which does this. Anyone want to add any more smarts to it before I commit it? N Index: docproj.docbook.mk =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/share/mk/docproj.docbook.mk,v retrieving revision 1.3 diff -u -r1.3 docproj.docbook.mk --- docproj.docbook.mk 1999/05/05 20:16:46 1.3 +++ docproj.docbook.mk 1999/05/17 18:37:26 @@ -63,8 +63,6 @@ # # You shouldn't need to change definitions below here -DOC_PREFIX?= /usr/doc - VOLUME?= ${.CURDIR:T} DOC?= ${.CURDIR:T} DISTRIBUTION?= doc @@ -81,6 +79,27 @@ JADEOPTS= ${JADEFLAGS} -c ${FREEBSDCATALOG} -c ${DSSSLCATALOG} -c ${DOCBOOKCATALOG} -c ${JADECATALOG} ${EXTRA_CATALOGS:S/^/-c /g} KNOWN_FORMATS= html html-split html-split.tar txt rtf ps pdf tex dvi tar doc + +# ------------------------------------------------------------------------ +# If DOC_PREFIX is not set then try and generate a sensible value for it. +# +# If they have used an unedited /usr/share/examples/cvsup/doc-supfile to +# download these files then /usr/doc probably exists. If it does, then +# use that. If it doesn't exist then tell the user they must specify +# DOC_PREFIX by hand. +# +.BEGIN: +.if !defined(DOC_PREFIX) || empty(DOC_PREFIX) +.if exists(/usr/doc) +DOC_PREFIX=/usr/doc +.else + @echo "You must define the DOC_PREFIX variable. This should contain" + @echo "the path to the top of your checked out doc/ repository. For" + @echo "example, \"make DOC_PREFIX=/usr/doc\", if that is where the" + @echo "documentation has been checked out to." + @exit 1 +.endif +.endif # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # -- There's some milk in the fridge about to go off. . . and there it goes. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon May 17 11:46:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from hp9000.chc-chimes.com (unknown [206.67.97.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A06C152F0 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 11:44:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billf@chc-chimes.com) Received: from localhost by hp9000.chc-chimes.com with SMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA277711309; Mon, 17 May 1999 10:28:29 -0400 Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 10:28:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Fumerola To: Jesus Rodriguez Cc: Tim Vanderhoek , Nik Clayton , doc@FreeBSD.ORG, Jim Mock Subject: Re: freebsd.org domain In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 16 May 1999, Jesus Rodriguez wrote: > This is the actual status: [statistics proving freebsd.org is used more often.] This really doesn't prove anything. We are FreeBSD not freebsd. - bill fumerola - billf@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfumerol@computerhorizons.com - billf@FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon May 17 12:54:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA1D514D9A; Mon, 17 May 1999 12:54:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id MAA23172; Mon, 17 May 1999 12:54:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 12:54:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199905171954.MAA23172@freefall.freebsd.org> To: junkmale@xtra.co.nz, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/11015: handbook/mirrors-ftp.html missing NZ server Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: handbook/mirrors-ftp.html missing NZ server State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Mon May 17 12:53:34 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon May 17 12:54:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C321414E02; Mon, 17 May 1999 12:54:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id MAA23289; Mon, 17 May 1999 12:54:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 12:54:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199905171954.MAA23289@freefall.freebsd.org> To: chris@calldei.com, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/11740: [Patch] doc/en/handbook/patch/chapter.sgml has various bugs (sorry Nik!) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: [Patch] doc/en/handbook/patch/chapter.sgml has various bugs (sorry Nik!) State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Mon May 17 12:54:23 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon May 17 13:22: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ns.nobreak.com (ns.nobreak.com [210.105.79.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63AD6152F6 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 13:22:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nobreak@nobreak.com) Received: from nobreak.com (nobreak.nobreak.com [210.105.79.103]) by ns.nobreak.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id FAA01689; Tue, 18 May 1999 05:24:44 +0900 Message-ID: <37407A29.D4D229C4@nobreak.com> Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 05:20:57 +0900 From: Seung-young Kim Reply-To: nobreak@nobreak.com Organization: Nobreak Technologies, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bill Fumerola Cc: Jesus Rodriguez , Tim Vanderhoek , Nik Clayton , doc@FreeBSD.ORG, Jim Mock Subject: Re: freebsd.org domain References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-kr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi.. These days, we, Korea FreeBSD Users Group, have discussed same topic about fixing the expression rules for the FreeBSD domain to one. But, now we delayed our discussion because it was been a topic here. So I(maybe we) think(hope) it's better to be clearly defined at this time. In my opinion, I think such as www.kr.FreeBSD.org and email@kr.FreeBSD.org is much impressive and compatible like other men's saying. When discussion is done, we will follow final conclusion though good and evil. We'll look this threads carefully. Regards. -- o R&D/Senior researcher: Seung-young Kim o Tel: +82-42-864-4440/1 , Fax: +82-42-864-4442 o Personal home: http://nobreak.nobreak.ne.kr _________________________________________________ Nobreak Technologies, Inc. http://www.nobreak.com The Power to Serve, Rock-stable FreeBSD! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon May 17 13:49: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (baerenklau.de.freebsd.org [195.185.195.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 669F815677; Mon, 17 May 1999 13:49:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id WAA22221; Mon, 17 May 1999 22:48:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from wosch@localhost) by paula.panke.de.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.8.8) id WAA01563; Mon, 17 May 1999 22:43:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wosch) Message-ID: <19990517224354.26511@panke.de.freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 22:43:54 +0200 From: Wolfram Schneider To: Nik Clayton Cc: nclayton@lehman.com, Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Can't build handbook References: <19990508141141.A20366@holly.dyndns.org> <19990508231333.45191@panke.de.freebsd.org> <19990510111306.I14492@lehman.com> <199905110749.AAA28713@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> <19990513130423.49638@panke.de.freebsd.org> <19990513124039.N14492@lehman.com> <19990515190712.02032@panke.de.freebsd.org> <19990517193950.A2496@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <19990517193950.A2496@catkin.nothing-going-on.org>; from Nik Clayton on Mon, May 17, 1999 at 07:39:50PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 1999-05-17 19:39:50 +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: > Here's a trivial patch which does this. Anyone want to add any more > smarts to it before I commit it? > +.BEGIN: > +.if !defined(DOC_PREFIX) || empty(DOC_PREFIX) > +.if exists(/usr/doc) > +DOC_PREFIX=/usr/doc Better check if /usr/doc/doc/share/mk/docproj.docbook.mk exists. The directory /usr/doc may be empty ... > +.else > + @echo "You must define the DOC_PREFIX variable. This should contain" > + @echo "the path to the top of your checked out doc/ repository. For" > + @echo "example, \"make DOC_PREFIX=/usr/doc\", if that is where the" > + @echo "documentation has been checked out to." > + @exit 1 > +.endif > +.endif -- Wolfram Schneider http://wolfram.schneider.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon May 17 15:57:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 989A414BE0; Mon, 17 May 1999 15:57:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from pb@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id PAA50334; Mon, 17 May 1999 15:57:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pb@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 15:57:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199905172257.PAA50334@freefall.freebsd.org> To: dada@sbox.tu-graz.ac.at, pb@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/11582: bug in ip(4) manpage Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: bug in ip(4) manpage State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: pb State-Changed-When: Mon May 17 15:56:28 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Fixed in -CURRENT and -STABLE. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon May 17 18:50: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E09E14CFD for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 18:50:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id SAA63529; Mon, 17 May 1999 18:50:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 18:50:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905180150.SAA63529@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: From: "Stephen J. Roznowski" Subject: Re: docs/11348: Correction to previous Y2K information Reply-To: "Stephen J. Roznowski" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/11348; it has been noted by GNATS. From: "Stephen J. Roznowski" To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/11348: Correction to previous Y2K information Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 21:43:16 -0400 (EDT) With the closing of ports/9295, this fix should now read: --- y2kbug.sgml.orig Mon May 17 19:51:57 1999 +++ y2kbug.sgml Mon May 17 19:58:44 1999 @@ -210,7 +210,7 @@
INN 1.7.2 suffers from 2 Y2K related problems. One occurs when pulling news (-f option to nntpget) and the other relates to the Expire header with relative dates past 2000. - [Fixed v1.30(both inn and inn-stable) 1999/01/13] + [Port upgraded to INN 2.2 1999/05/02]
ports/9298
To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon May 17 18:59:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from drago.cert.org.tw (drago.cert.org.tw [140.117.100.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2958414CFD for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 18:57:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from foxfair@drago.cert.org.tw) Received: from foxfair (foxfair.cc.nsysu.edu.tw [140.117.100.101]) by drago.cert.org.tw (Postfix) with SMTP id 686677149 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 09:57:59 +0800 (CST) Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 09:57:22 +0800 From: Foxfair Hu To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [RU-DOC] FDP Directory Reorganization Message-Id: <3740C902262.4EE4FOXFAIR@drago.cert.org.tw> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=BIG5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver 1.25.04 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [......] :So it becomes something like : doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/* : articles/* : ja_JP.EUC/books/* : articles/* : zh_BN.EUC/books/* It should be "zh_CN.EUC", CN -> China(Mainland of China). : articles/* : zh_TW.BIG5/books/* : articles/* :and so on instead. : :Two questions. :First, what do the _JP, _BN, and _TW signify? Could they be dropped from :the name? I realise that the locale/ directory they allow you to :differentiate between "Chinese (China)" and "Chinese (Taiwan)". But is :that distinction useful for the documentation? : zh_CN.EUC ,aka., Simplified Chinese, has a very different character set with zh-TW.BIG5 , aka., Traditional Chinese. The main problem is Chinese people use two kinds of Chinese words for years, so now it is not just the encoding problem, but also the problem of regional culture and community. For example, this English word "memory", use Roma-spelling method under Traditional Chinese we call it "ji yi ti"(°O¾ÐÅé), but under Simplified Chinese it is called by "nei tsuen"(ÄÚ´æ). As anyone can see and understand , they are the whole different words. :< So in this case, we are *NOT* just like Kuriyama-san said "maintain three contently same but different encoding texts in CVS repository". Those two different types of encoding methods derive from regional culture and community, and should be divided into the way they used to be. My suggestion(This is our discussion of FreeBSD Chinese Doc-Project mailing list, too) is use zh.BIG5 && zh.GB, not zh.EUC. The suffix "GB" stands for GB{_1988-80, _2312-80}(ref : RFC 1345), and the prefix "zh" means "Jung Hua". That's meaningful for us. Sorry for responsing late, I have a busy week. :) Cheers, -Foxfair To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue May 18 3:19:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.freemail.nl (unknown [195.241.45.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED08015472 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 03:19:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from danieldk@freemail.nl) Received: (from root@localhost) by mail.freemail.nl (8.8.5/SCO5) id MAA02974 for doc@freebsd.org; Tue, 18 May 1999 12:18:16 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 12:18:16 -0400 (EDT) From: danieldk@freemail.nl Message-Id: <199905181618.MAA02974@mail.freemail.nl> To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: The Dutch FreeBSD project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear sir, madam, Because I like FreeBSD very much, and I have been using it for quite a while I would like to contribute to this great project. I am not a very good programmer, so maybe I can translate some of the FreeBSD handbook to Dutch, and eventually start the Dutch FreeBSD documentation project (including homepage). Hoping for your respons, Yours sincerely, Daniel de Kok To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue May 18 5:20:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3654150D3 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 05:20:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id FAA36693; Tue, 18 May 1999 05:20:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 32767) id D9D7C156AB; Tue, 18 May 1999 05:14:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <19990518121441.D9D7C156AB@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 05:14:41 -0700 (PDT) From: kevlo@hello.com.tw To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/11761: Release version should be upgraded in the FAQ. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11761 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Release version should be upgraded in the FAQ. >Confidential: no >Severity: critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue May 18 05:20:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Kevin Lo >Release: 2.2.8-RELEASE >Organization: >Environment: FreeBSD hello.com.tw 2.2.8-RELEASE FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE #0: Tue May 18 19:42:21 CST 1999 kevin@hello.com.tw:/usr/src/sys/compile/FREEBSD i386 >Description: Change Release version from 3.1 to 3.2 >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: *** preface.sgml.old Tue May 18 20:02:14 1999 --- preface.sgml Tue May 18 20:06:09 1999 *************** *** 89,97 **** What is the latest version of FreeBSD? !

Version is the latest Briefly explained, What is the latest version of FreeBSD? !

Version is the latest Briefly explained, Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue May 18 7:48:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from gate.volvo.se (gate.volvo.se [192.138.110.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C3201566E for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 07:48:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from it.kbr@memo.volvo.se) Received: by gate.volvo.se; id QAA24782; Tue, 18 May 1999 16:48:33 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from smtpbb1.volvo.se(131.97.125.124) by gate.volvo.se via smap (4.1) id xma024228; Tue, 18 May 99 16:47:56 +0200 Received: from vg03.vd.volvo.se (vg03.vd.volvo.se [131.97.125.103]) by vg170.it.volvo.se (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA13262 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 16:47:56 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from memo.volvo.se (d4381.it.volvo.se [131.97.112.38]) by vg03.vd.volvo.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA13445 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 16:47:56 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <3741997C.46AB3F2F@memo.volvo.se> Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 16:46:52 +0000 From: john X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: natd/ipfw docs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by vg170.it.volvo.se id QAA13262 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello Sir(s) First let take the opportunity to thank you for the wonderfull work you do. It=B4s apperciated by many here at my office. Beeing a recently added subscriber to the freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailinglist i see questions dayly on how to configure systems to run Network Address Translation and Firewalls. I seems there is a lack of documentation dealing with theese subjects, somewhere to point people to. Having just set it up (fresh in memory :) i tought i=B4d write something on the subject myself. What do you think, would this help you,or is there already some documentation (besides man pages) for this that i have missed? Best Regards John To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue May 18 8:23:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mailg.telia.com (mailg.telia.com [194.22.194.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46D8514FED for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 08:22:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from thomas.uhrfelt@plymovent.se) Received: from d1o68.telia.com (root@d1o68.telia.com [62.20.138.241]) by mailg.telia.com (8.8.5/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA10992; Tue, 18 May 1999 17:22:14 +0200 (CEST) Received: from tu (t3o68p8.telia.com [62.20.139.8]) by d1o68.telia.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA14848; Tue, 18 May 1999 17:22:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Tue, 18 May 1999 17:20:43 +0200 Message-ID: <01BEA152.C2B75EA0.thomas.uhrfelt@plymovent.se> From: Thomas Uhrfelt Reply-To: "thomas.uhrfelt@plymovent.se" To: "'john'" Cc: "'freebsd-doc@freebsd.org'" Subject: SV: natd/ipfw docs Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 17:20:06 +0200 Organization: Plymovent AB X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet-e-post/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="SEN_850200_B" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Hello Sir(s) > > First let take the opportunity to thank you for the wonderfull work > you > do. It?s apperciated by many here at my office. > > Beeing a recently added subscriber to the freebsd- > questions@freebsd.org > mailinglist i see questions dayly on how to configure systems to run > Network Address Translation and Firewalls. I seems there is a lack of > documentation dealing with theese subjects, somewhere to point people > to. Having just set it up (fresh in memory :) i tought i?d write > something on the subject myself. What do you think, would this help > you,or is there already some documentation (besides man pages) for > this > that i have missed? > > Best Regards > John > Personally I think a step-by-step guide would cut a lot of the traffic in freebsd-question, hence it's a great idea! Thomas Uhrfelt Computer Technician ... Hooked on FreeBSD ... PlymoVent AB www.freebsd.org thomas.uhrfelt@plymovent.se http://www.plymovent.se To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue May 18 9:10: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA1EB152D0 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 09:10:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id JAA24289; Tue, 18 May 1999 09:10:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 32767) id 225FC156FB; Tue, 18 May 1999 09:08:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <19990518160840.225FC156FB@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 09:08:40 -0700 (PDT) From: kevlo@hello.com.tw To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/11763: Add new entry<2.29> in the FAQ. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11763 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Add new entry<2.29> in the FAQ. >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue May 18 09:10:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Kevin Lo >Release: 2.2.8-RELEASE >Organization: >Environment: FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE i386 >Description: Add new entry: I compiled a new kernel and now I get the error message "archsw.redin.faild" when booting. in install.sgml >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: *** install.sgml.old Tue May 18 21:44:33 1999 --- install.sgml Tue May 18 21:52:41 1999 *************** *** 697,701 **** --- 697,711 ----

Bruce Evans, September 1998 + + + I compiled a new kernel and now I get the error message "archsw.re adin.faild" when booting. + +

You can boot by specifying the kernel directly at the second + stage, pressing any key when the | shows up before loader is + started. More specifically, you have upgraded the source for your + kernel, and installed a new kernel builtin from them *without making + world*. This is not supported. Make world. + >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue May 18 9:20: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B94D9156FE for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 09:20:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id JAA25320; Tue, 18 May 1999 09:20:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 32767) id 842651565D; Tue, 18 May 1999 09:15:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <19990518161514.842651565D@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 09:15:14 -0700 (PDT) From: kevlo@hello.com.tw To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/11764: Add new entry<5.5> in the FAQ. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11764 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Add new entry<5.5> in the FAQ. >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue May 18 09:20:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Kevin Lo >Release: 2.2.8-RELEASE >Organization: >Environment: FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE i386 >Description: Add new entry: "Can I run Oracle on FreeBSD?" in commercial.sgml >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: *** commercial.sgml.old Tue May 18 23:45:49 1999 --- commercial.sgml Tue May 18 23:54:39 1999 *************** *** 171,175 **** --- 171,189 ---- . + + Can I run Oracle on FreeBSD? + +

Yes. The following pages tell you exactly how to setup Linux-Oracle + on FreeBSD: + + + + + + + + >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue May 18 10:59:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3179E14E44 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 10:59:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) id SAA74961; Tue, 18 May 1999 18:58:50 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 18:58:50 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Foxfair Hu Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [RU-DOC] FDP Directory Reorganization Message-ID: <19990518185850.A21229@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <3740C902262.4EE4FOXFAIR@drago.cert.org.tw> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <3740C902262.4EE4FOXFAIR@drago.cert.org.tw>; from Foxfair Hu on Tue, May 18, 1999 at 09:57:22AM +0800 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, May 18, 1999 at 09:57:22AM +0800, Foxfair Hu wrote: > : zh_BN.EUC/books/* > > It should be "zh_CN.EUC", CN -> China(Mainland of China). Yep, my typo. > : articles/* > : zh_TW.BIG5/books/* > : articles/* > :and so on instead. > My suggestion(This is our discussion of FreeBSD Chinese Doc-Project > mailing list, too) is use zh.BIG5 && zh.GB, not zh.EUC. The suffix > "GB" stands for GB{_1988-80, _2312-80}(ref : RFC 1345), and the prefix > "zh" means "Jung Hua". That's meaningful for us. So we definitely don't need the "_CN" and "_TW" qualifiers? I'd be fairly happy to go with this, except for one thing. If we stick with the names used in /usr/share/locale/* then the Makefile's can be a bit smarter, and work out which documentation the user wants to build based on the contents of $LANG. N -- There's some milk in the fridge about to go off. . . and there it goes. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue May 18 15:25: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from finjan.com (mail.finjan.com [194.90.154.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 967D014E09 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 15:25:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from raju@mail.finjan.com) Received: from f22 (f22.mibx.net) by finjan.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA06169; Wed, 19 May 1999 01:25:11 +0200 From: "Raju" To: Subject: HI THERE Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 15:26:35 -0700 Message-Id: <001201bea17d$7ceb1e40$16008ecf@mibx.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org What is the difference between freebees and BSDI Please reply ? 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The Leader in Mobile Code Security Phone 408-324-0228 ext 312. *********** Ask and you shall receive ******************* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue May 18 17:53: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mbox1.univali.rct-sc.br (mbox1.univali.rct-sc.br [200.135.8.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5A4D114CB0 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 17:52:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gs@melim.com.br) Received: from [200.135.8.50] by mbox1.univali.rct-sc.br (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA25030; Tue, 18 May 1999 21:48:49 -0300 Message-Id: <37420B23.A71FC846@melim.com.br> Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 21:51:47 -0300 From: Gustavo Schroeder X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.0.36 i686) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: FreeBSD essential Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear gentleman I'm a computer science student, and i'm aiming to do a workshop with FreeBSD. I've downloaded the documentation project manual from your web site, and also bought The Complete FreeBSD Book, from Walnut Creek CD-ROM. Those books are only for instalation and administration of the system. I'm looking for some essential aspects of the operational system, these aspects are: Brief History (I've already find it) Caracteristics of the system Structure of the system Processes - how the system deal with them - how to configure the processes Managing - how the system manages the processor - how the system manages the memory - how the system manages Input and Output devices - how the system manages files I would be pleased if you could inform me were i could find these information (web site, ftp, newsgroups, etc). Thanks in advance for your cooperation, Best Regards Gustavo Schroeder To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue May 18 18: 9:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smarter.than.nu (lal-99-91.Reshall.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.99.91]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70B5D14EC5 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 18:09:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smarter.than.nu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA32768; Tue, 18 May 1999 18:08:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 18:08:58 -0700 (PDT) From: "Brian W. Buchanan" X-Sender: brian@smarter.than.nu To: Gustavo Schroeder Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD essential In-Reply-To: <37420B23.A71FC846@melim.com.br> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 18 May 1999, Gustavo Schroeder wrote: > I'm looking for some essential aspects of the operational system, these > aspects are: > Brief History (I've already find it) > Caracteristics of the system > Structure of the system > Processes - how the system deal with them > - how to configure the processes > Managing - how the system manages the processor > - how the system manages the memory > - how the system manages Input and Output devices > - how the system manages files Try the book "The Design and Implementation of the 4.4BSD Operating System" by Marshall Kirk McKusick. -- Brian Buchanan brian@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU -------------------------------------------------------------------------- FreeBSD - The Power to Serve! http://www.freebsd.org daemon(n): 1. an attendant power or spirit : GENIUS 2. the cute little mascot of the FreeBSD operating system To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue May 18 18:52: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nf.enveng.titech.ac.jp (nf.enveng.titech.ac.jp [131.112.148.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9924151B2 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 18:51:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from masao@nf.enveng.titech.ac.jp) Received: from localhost (neon.enveng.titech.ac.jp [131.112.148.211]) by nf.enveng.titech.ac.jp (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA11709; Wed, 19 May 1999 10:46:05 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from masao@nf.enveng.titech.ac.jp) To: brian@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU Cc: gs@melim.com.br, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD essential In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 18 May 1999 18:08:58 -0700 (PDT)" References: X-Mailer: Mew version 1.93 on Emacs 19.34 / Mule 2.3 (SUETSUMUHANA) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19990518185152Q.masao@nf.enveng.titech.ac.jp> Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 18:51:52 -0700 From: UEBAYASHI Masao X-Dispatcher: imput version 980905(IM100) Lines: 13 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > I'm looking for some essential aspects of the operational system, these > > aspects are: > Try the book "The Design and Implementation of the 4.4BSD Operating > System" by Marshall Kirk McKusick. ``DaemonNews'' could be also very useful source for BSD people, even for a mere user, me. :D http://www.daemonnews.org/ --- UEBAYASHI Masao, from Japan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue May 18 23: 6: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from digital.oit.edu.tw (digital.oit.edu.tw [192.192.69.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A2EB214C48 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 23:05:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shie@digital.oit.edu.tw) Received: from eeh.oit.edu.tw by digital.oit.edu.tw; (5.65/1.1.8.2/29Nov96-0912AM) id AA03768; Wed, 19 May 1999 07:04:13 GMT Message-Id: <006c01bea1bd$9ee2b0e0$2645c0c0@oit.edu.tw> From: "shie" To: Subject: Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 14:05:19 +0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0069_01BEA200.A1096600" X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0069_01BEA200.A1096600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable subsrcibe ------=_NextPart_000_0069_01BEA200.A1096600 Content-Type: text/html; charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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------=_NextPart_000_0069_01BEA200.A1096600-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue May 18 23:30: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 422AA15236 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 23:30:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id XAA03771; Tue, 18 May 1999 23:30:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AC3D14E55 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 23:20:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA08568; Tue, 18 May 1999 23:20:20 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) Message-Id: <199905190620.XAA08568@freeway.dcfinc.com> Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 23:20:20 -0700 (MST) From: chad@DCFinc.com Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/11774: fix bad cut-n-paste in man page Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11774 >Category: docs >Synopsis: fixups for man page for vmstat(8) >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue May 18 23:30:00 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Chad R. Larson >Release: FreeBSD 2.2.8-STABLE i386 >Organization: DCF, Inc. >Environment: >Description: man page has typos and bad cut-n-paste >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Here's a patch: *** vmstat.old Tue May 18 22:49:37 1999 --- vmstat.new Tue May 18 23:04:57 1999 *************** *** 41,49 **** .Nm vmstat .Op Fl fimst .Op Fl c Ar count ! .Op Fl M core ! .Op Fl N system ! .Op Fl w wait .Op Ar disks .Sh DESCRIPTION .Nm Vmstat --- 41,49 ---- .Nm vmstat .Op Fl fimst .Op Fl c Ar count ! .Op Fl M Ar core ! .Op Fl N Ar system ! .Op Fl w Ar wait .Op Ar disks .Sh DESCRIPTION .Nm Vmstat *************** *** 56,66 **** Repeat the display .Ar count times. ! The first display is for the time since a reboot and each subsequent report ! is for the time period since the last display. ! If no ! .Ar wait ! interval is specified, the default is 1 second. .\" .It Fl f .\" Report on the number .\" .Xr fork 2 --- 56,66 ---- Repeat the display .Ar count times. ! The first display is for the time since a reboot and each subsequent ! report is for the time period since the last display. ! If no repeat ! .Ar count ! is specified, the default is infinity. .\" .It Fl f .\" Report on the number .\" .Xr fork 2 *************** *** 96,104 **** Pause .Ar wait seconds between each display. ! If no repeat ! .Ar count ! is specified, the default is infinity. .El .Pp By default, --- 96,104 ---- Pause .Ar wait seconds between each display. ! If no ! .Ar wait ! interval is specified, the default is 1 second. .El .Pp By default, >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed May 19 0: 0: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDDB814FF8 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 00:00:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id AAA06138; Wed, 19 May 1999 00:00:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 32767) id 699B814DAA; Tue, 18 May 1999 23:54:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <19990519065407.699B814DAA@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 23:54:07 -0700 (PDT) From: kevlo@hello.com.tw To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/11775: Update FAQ entry<8.1> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11775 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Update FAQ entry<8.1> >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed May 19 00:00:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Kevin Lo >Release: 2.2.8-RELEASE >Organization: >Environment: FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE i386 >Description: In entry<8.1>, FreeBSD version updated.(3.0 -> 3.2) >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: *** admin.sgml.old Wed May 19 14:43:57 1999 --- admin.sgml Wed May 19 14:44:22 1999 *************** *** 17,23 **** match your system. This file is filled with comments to show what to put in there. !

In post-2.2.1 and 3.0, /etc/sysconfig was renamed to a more self-describing file and the syntax cleaned up a bit in the process. --- 17,23 ---- match your system. This file is filled with comments to show what to put in there. !

In post-2.2.1 and 3.2, /etc/sysconfig was renamed to a more self-describing file and the syntax cleaned up a bit in the process. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed May 19 0:30:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1112D15453 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 00:30:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id AAA09212; Wed, 19 May 1999 00:30:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from icc.surw.chel.su (surw.chel.su [195.54.2.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3DB115856 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 00:23:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andy@icc.surw.chel.su) Received: (from andy@localhost) by icc.surw.chel.su (8.9.2/8.8.8) id LAA77807; Wed, 19 May 1999 11:23:19 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from andy) Message-Id: <199905190723.LAA77807@icc.surw.chel.su> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 11:23:19 +0400 (MSD) From: Andrey Zakhvatov Reply-To: andy@icc.surw.chel.su To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/11777: Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/network.sgml Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11777 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/network.sgml >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed May 19 00:30:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Andrey Zakhvatov >Release: FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE i386 >Organization: South Ural Railway ICC >Environment: >Description: This is a patch to sync doc/ru/FAQ/network.sgml with English 1.24 begin 644 network.diff M+2TM("]H;VUE+V%N9'DO;F-V2]N M8W9S+V1O8R]R=2]&05$O;F5T=V]R:RYS9VUL"4UO;B!!<'(@,3(@,3(Z,3@Z M-#<@,3DY.0I`0"`M,2PT("LQ+#0@0$`*+3PA+2T@)$ED.B!N971W;W)K+G-G M;6PL=B`Q+C0@,3DY.2\P-"\Q,R`R,#HP,#HR.2!D="!%>'`@)"`M+3X**SPA M+2T@)$ED.B!N971W;W)K+G-G;6PL=B`Q+C$W(#$Y.3DO,#0O,3(@,#@Z,3@Z M-#<@86YD>2!%>'`@)"`M+3X*(#PA+2T@5&AE($9R965"4T0@4G5S"YH=&UL(B!N M86UE/2+2UU,\@T]32S][+P0HK("`@("`@ M("`@("`@/'1T/F%L:6%S('!OR=?!P-W%Q2#0S\3$Q=+6R]4@T-+/R]/)(,3,T0HK("`@("`@("`@("`@ M475A:V4L("#-S];.SR#.PF4^"BL@"B`@("`@("`\How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Please, check and apply this patch. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed May 19 5:13: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD78D14EA6; Wed, 19 May 1999 05:13:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesusr@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from jesusr@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id FAA14335; Wed, 19 May 1999 05:13:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesusr@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 05:13:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199905191213.FAA14335@freefall.freebsd.org> To: kevlo@hello.com.tw, jesusr@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/11775: Update FAQ entry<8.1> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Update FAQ entry<8.1> State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: jesusr State-Changed-When: Wed May 19 05:11:21 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: The original FAQ entry is right. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed May 19 5:17: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCC7214EA6; Wed, 19 May 1999 05:16:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesusr@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from jesusr@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id FAA15040; Wed, 19 May 1999 05:16:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesusr@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 05:16:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199905191216.FAA15040@freefall.freebsd.org> To: jesusr@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, jesusr@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/11761: Release version should be upgraded in the FAQ. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Release version should be upgraded in the FAQ. Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->jesusr Responsible-Changed-By: jesusr Responsible-Changed-When: Wed May 19 05:15:35 PDT 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: Working on it. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed May 19 5:17:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BCF214EA6; Wed, 19 May 1999 05:17:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesusr@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from jesusr@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id FAA15126; Wed, 19 May 1999 05:17:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesusr@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 05:17:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199905191217.FAA15126@freefall.freebsd.org> To: jesusr@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, jesusr@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/11763: Add new entry<2.29> in the FAQ. 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed May 19 5:18:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3FFE14EA6; Wed, 19 May 1999 05:18:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesusr@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from jesusr@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id FAA15232; Wed, 19 May 1999 05:18:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesusr@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 05:18:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199905191218.FAA15232@freefall.freebsd.org> To: jesusr@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, jesusr@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/11764: Add new entry<5.5> in the FAQ. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Add new entry<5.5> in the FAQ. 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------=_NextPart_000_0024_01BEA203.FEEA92A0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed May 19 10: 1:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from quack.kfu.com (quack.kfu.com [170.1.70.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39B7415117 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 10:01:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nsayer@medusa.kfu.com) Received: from medusa.kfu.com (medusa.kfu.com [170.1.70.5]) by quack.kfu.com (8.9.2/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA88608 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 10:01:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nsayer@localhost) by medusa.kfu.com (8.9.2/8.8.8) id KAA31879 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Wed, 19 May 1999 10:01:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nsayer) Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 10:01:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Nick Sayer Message-Id: <199905191701.KAA31879@medusa.kfu.com> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Suggestion for RELNOTES Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Um, I noticed that there still is a line in the Release Notes talking about certain WORM burners being supported. Perhaps this line should be removed given the deprecation of the WORM driver. Without which support for writing CDs at all really isn't a part of the operating system, per se. So any writable CD drive is supported as a reader to the extent that the drive in question chooses to look like one. Make sense? I would just have committed the change, but thought I'd talk to a docco person first. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed May 19 13:43: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2F3815895 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 13:42:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) id UAA64231; Wed, 19 May 1999 20:47:48 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 20:47:48 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Nick Sayer Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Suggestion for RELNOTES Message-ID: <19990519204748.A60921@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <199905191701.KAA31879@medusa.kfu.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <199905191701.KAA31879@medusa.kfu.com>; from Nick Sayer on Wed, May 19, 1999 at 10:01:12AM -0700 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, May 19, 1999 at 10:01:12AM -0700, Nick Sayer wrote: > Um, I noticed that there still is a line in the Release Notes talking > about certain WORM burners being supported. Perhaps this line should > be removed given the deprecation of the WORM driver. Without which > support for writing CDs at all really isn't a part of the operating > system, per se. So any writable CD drive is supported as a reader > to the extent that the drive in question chooses to look like one. > Make sense? > > I would just have committed the change, but thought I'd talk to > a docco person first. If you know that the WORM writers in question are no longer supported, then you should remove them. However, if it's because many more WORM devices are now supported using a new mechanism then replacing it with text like FreeBSD does not need a special device to support WORM writers anymore. The old "worm?" device has been superceded by the new "cd?" device, which includes that functionality as standard. See cd(4) for more details. Edit that as necessary, depending on the fine details of the implementation. N -- There's some milk in the fridge about to go off. . . and there it goes. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed May 19 13:44:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D792E14DC4 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 13:42:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) id VAA70874; Wed, 19 May 1999 21:40:22 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 21:40:22 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Nik Clayton Cc: doc@freebsd.org, freebsd-translate@ngo.org.uk Subject: Re: FDP Directory Reorganisation Message-ID: <19990519214022.D60921@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19990513211458.B70767@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990513211458.B70767@catkin.nothing-going-on.org>; from Nik Clayton on Thu, May 13, 1999 at 09:14:58PM +0100 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Folks, Here's v2.0 of the re-org plan. I would've just sent a diff, but the diff is almost as big anyway. The main change is replacing lang/encoding with lang.encoding, based on the contents of /usr/share/locale. The articles/books/man split is still there, and will remain unless someone can come up with something better. I'm away from my mailbox from Friday night through to Tuesday night, so I expect to come back to a large discussion thread :-) If a consensus has been reached then I'll start sorting out the fine details of implementing it when I get back. N FDP Directory Reorganisation Nik Clayton nik@FreeBSD.ORG This is an attempt to put down all my thoughts about my plans for an FDP directory reorganisation down so they can be critiqued. Comments welcome to the mailing list please. _________________________________________________________________ Overview The FreeBSD Documentation Project (FDP) directory structure has grown haphazardly over time. This was tolerable when the FDP repository only contained English versions of the documentation. However, as more translations are added to the repository it becomes important to have a consistent directory naming scheme followed by each translation. A consistent directory naming scheme will make it easier to write software that can automatically process FDP documentation without needing to be configured as to exactly where that documentation is in the tree; automated tools will be able to deduce this. Moving existant content that conflicts with this scheme will make automated tools simpler, as they will not need to handle exceptions to the rules. Finally, a consistent approach is much easier to document and to learn. Anything that can reduce the learning curve required before people can contribute to the FDP is a good thing. _________________________________________________________________ Current situation At the time of writing, the doc/ repository contains the following directories (ignoring empty directories); doc/ FAQ/ en/ handbook/ tutorials/ docproj-primer/ fonts/ ... share/ sgml/ es/ FAQ/ ja/ FAQ/ handbook/ man/ ru/ FAQ/ share/ sgml/ mk/ zh/ FAQ/ There are a number of anomalies and potential problems with this structure. It also gets a few things right. * doc/FAQ is out of place. It is the English version of the FreeBSD FAQ, and is a holdover from when the repository only contained the English documentation. * The English tutorials are one level lower in the tree than the English Handbook. Any commands to process the documentation that rely on relative paths will need to ensure that this is compensated for before running the command. See the current DOC_PREFIX kludge for an example of this. * Some of the documentation in tutorials/ should not be considered to be tutorials. A more neutral term would better describe the content. * No attempt is made to specify the character set used to write the documentation. While this is not a problem for the English translation, other languages, such as Japanese, Korean, and Chinese, have multiple character sets that could be used to encode the documentation. Some way of differentiating between these character sets should be provided, as should a mechanism for allowing multiple translations to the same language differing only in the choice of character set. * There is a proposed plan to split the Handbook up, and replace it with a number of smaller books with a tighter focus. The existing layout does not support this approach at all. * The use of share/ directories to contain files that are language neutral (in the first case) or can be used by all translations to a specific language (in the second case) is a good idea. _________________________________________________________________ The change Migrate to a new directory structure that follows this layout; doc/ lang.charset/ articles/ fonts/ ... books/ FAQ/ FDP-primer/ printing/ ... man/ ... share/ sgml/ share/ sgml/ ... mk/ ... The first top level directory represents both the language and the character set code used for this translation. These directory names come direct from /usr/share/locale, and examples include en_US.ISO_8859-1 and zh_CN.EUC. The language codes are defined in ISO639, which can be found in /usr/share/misc/iso639 on a relatively recent FreeBSD system. Yes, this is slight overkill. English, for example, could simply be left as en. However, this brings some benefits which I think are worthwhile. Firstly, the directory names will be completely consistent, both with one another, and with another, established directory hierarchy within FreeBSD. Continuing senseless incompatability is a bad idea. Secondly, for non-English users, the directory name should match their setting for the LANG environment variable. The second top level directory is share/, which will contain language neutral files. Below these directories, the documentation is categorised further. There are three categories that each document might be in; articles/ An article is a short piece of documentation (although ``short'' is a relative term). In general, if the documentation does not contain any chapters then it is an article, and should be placed in a subdirectory of this directory. ``article'' is a neutral term that does not convey information about about the nature of the information contained within the article (unlike ``tutorials''). Examples of existing documentation that would fall in to this category are; + Using FreeBSD with other Operating Systems + ``Making the world'' your own + This document. books/ Books are longer sets of documentation, characterised by their organisation in to multiple chapters. Examples of existing documentation that would fall in to this category are; + FreeBSD FAQ + FreeBSD Handbook + FDP Primer man/ The system manual pages, translated to the target language. While it is feasible that the English manual pages could move out of the src/ repository and in to doc/, I don't see this actually happening any time soon (certainly not within my life time). The historical pressure to keep them in src/ is too great. This directory will have the traditional mann directories, to further categorise the manual pages into their appropriate sections. share/ Content that can be shared between different documentation, but is language and character set specific. For example, as a translation team translates the documentation there will be sections that haven't been translated yet. You can put the translation of the phrase ``This section has not been translated yet'' into a file in this directory, and then use a general entity to include it in all the documentation where it is necessary. Why bother with the distinction between books and articles? We need something to distinguish between manual pages and everything else. Otherwise we would have this directory filled with one directory for piece of documentation, and then one more directory which would contain all the manual pages. This is not an appealing idea. So we need at least one directory to lump all the non-manual pages in to. Finding a useful name for this one directory is hard. tutorials is wrong, as many of them are not tutorials. docs is too non-specific (after all, the manual pages are ``docs'' as well). Trying to classify the documentation by its content is practically impossible. For example, would ``printing'' come under a hypothetical system administration section, or a using FreeBSD section, or would it have a section in its own right? The discussions would rage for days, and in many ways each point of view would be equally as valid. This approach neatly sidesteps all that, and provides a simple test to determine where a piece of documentation belongs. If it has chapters then it is a book, if it does not then it is an article. I am prepared to replace this with just one directory if someone can come up with a good name for it. Based on the current doc/, the converted directory structure will look like this. doc/ en_US.ISO_8859-1/ articles/ writing-device-drivers/ programming-tools/ formatting-media/ ... books/ FAQ/ FDP-primer/ handbook/ ... share/ sgml/ ja_JP.EUC/ books/ FAQ/ handbook/ ... man/ ... share/ sgml/ zh_CN.EUC/ books/ FAQ/ share/ sgml/ zh_TW.BIG5/ books/ FAQ/ share/ sgml/ fr_FR.ISO_8859-1/ books/ handbook/ share/ sgml/ ... share/ sgml/ mk/ That might change slightly. For example, if the French translations (which I'll be committing as soon as this directory re-org is out of the way) use Latin2 as the character set then the directory name becomes fr_FR.ISO_8859-2 instead. _________________________________________________________________ Making the change This is quite a large change, and will need careful thought about how to carry it out. In particular, we want to avoid bloating the CVS repository any more than we have to. How files are moved will depend on their current DTD. All documentation that is already marked up according to the DocBook DTD (and the manual pages) can be moved within the repository by the repository managers (Peter Wemm and John Polstra). Some of the Makefiles will then need small changes made to them to reflect the directory names, but that should be about all. All documentation that is marked up according to the LinuxDoc DTD is treated differently. The original files are left where they are. Then, when the documentation is converted to DocBook the original LinuxDoc files are left, and the new DocBook files will be stored in the new directories as appropriate. We will then have two versions of the document in the repository, one marked up in LinuxDoc, one in DocBook. The Makefiles can continue to point to the LinuxDoc version until the DocBook conversion has completed. When the DocBook conversion has been completed the LinuxDoc version can be removed. The conversion will be complete when the last piece of LinuxDoc documentation has been removed from the tree. _________________________________________________________________ Additional resources I've found the following links useful while trying to find out more information about i18n and l10n. http://czyborra.com/charsets/ Lots of information about different character sets, the iso8859* characters, and so on. http://www.ora.com/people/authors/lunde/cjk_inf.html The Chinese, Japanese, Korean information page has lots of information about how to encode these languages. http://www.vlsivie.tuwien.ac.at/mike/8bit/FAQ-ISO-8859-1 The ISO8859-1 FAQ contains useful inforamtion. -- There's some milk in the fridge about to go off. . . and there it goes. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed May 19 13:46:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A12B14F42 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 13:46:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) id VAA70286; Wed, 19 May 1999 21:35:34 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 21:35:34 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Jun Kuriyama Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG, "Andrey A. Chernov" , ru-freebsd-doc@freebsd.ru, freebsd-translate@ngo.org.uk, hanai@jp.freebsd.org Subject: Re: [RU-DOC] FDP Directory Reorganization Message-ID: <19990519213533.C60921@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19990514204302.B43389@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <19990515222516E.k-horik@yk.rim.or.jp> <19990515174717.A656@nagual.pp.ru> <19990516000424.48809@panke.de.freebsd.org> <19990516121203.C62097@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <373EB660.A6706EC5@sky.rim.or.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <373EB660.A6706EC5@sky.rim.or.jp>; from Jun Kuriyama on Sun, May 16, 1999 at 09:13:20PM +0900 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, May 16, 1999 at 09:13:20PM +0900, Jun Kuriyama wrote: > Of course, when we specify some localized environment, is not > enough, . is better thing. > > But Japanese encodings such as EUC-JP, Shift_JIS and JIS are easily > machine-convertable. I don't know of such thing about Chinese > encodings. > > So we should not maintain three "contently same but different encoding" > texts in CVS repository. It is waste of disk space and human resource. Agreed, for languages that can be machine converted from one format to the other. It would be up to the individual translation teams to pick an encoding they're happiest working in, and using that. N -- There's some milk in the fridge about to go off. . . and there it goes. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed May 19 20:20: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBF7815661 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 20:20:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id UAA67426; Wed, 19 May 1999 20:20:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 32767) id 65CD3153D0; Wed, 19 May 1999 20:16:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <19990520031613.65CD3153D0@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 20:16:13 -0700 (PDT) From: kevlo@hello.com.tw To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/11794: A typo in install.sgml and replace the stars with marker. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11794 >Category: docs >Synopsis: A typo in install.sgml and replace the stars with marker. >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed May 19 20:20:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Kevin Lo >Release: 2.2.8-RELEASE >Organization: >Environment: FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE i386 >Description: A typo in install.sgml and replace the starts with the marker. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: *** install.sgml.old Thu May 20 10:59:01 1999 --- install.sgml Thu May 20 11:00:34 1999 *************** *** 699,710 ****

Bruce Evans, September 1998 ! I compiled a new kernel and now I get the error message "archsw.r eadin.faild" when booting.

You can boot by specifying the kernel directly at the second stage, pressing any key when the | shows up before loader is started. More specifically, you have upgraded the source for your ! kernel, and installed a new kernel builtin from them *without making ! world*. This is not supported. Make world. --- 699,710 ----

Bruce Evans, September 1998 ! I compiled a new kernel and now I get the error message "archsw.r eadin.failed" when booting.

You can boot by specifying the kernel directly at the second stage, pressing any key when the | shows up before loader is started. More specifically, you have upgraded the source for your ! kernel, and installed a new kernel builtin from them without making ! world. This is not supported. Make world. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed May 19 21:51:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEEA214F05; Wed, 19 May 1999 21:51:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkoshy@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from jkoshy@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id VAA75109; Wed, 19 May 1999 21:51:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkoshy@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 21:51:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199905200451.VAA75109@freefall.freebsd.org> To: fullermd@over-yonder.net, jkoshy@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/11708: dumpon(8) references old device names Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: dumpon(8) references old device names State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: jkoshy State-Changed-When: Wed May 19 21:51:16 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Fixed in rev 1.10 of "src/sbin/dumpon/dumpon.8", thanks! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu May 20 1:54:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from firewall1.lehman.com (firewall1.Lehman.COM [192.147.65.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AFE014EEA for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 01:54:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nclayton@lehman.com) Received: from relay.messaging-svcs2.lehman.com by firewall1.lehman.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) id EAA16885; Thu, 20 May 1999 04:54:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lonmailhost.lehman.com by relay.messaging-svcs2.lehman.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) id EAA21850; Thu, 20 May 1999 04:54:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lonmailhost.lehman.com (SMI-8.6/Lehman Bros. V1.5) id JAA02473; Thu, 20 May 1999 09:54:04 +0100 Message-ID: <19990520095404.F12185@lehman.com> Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 09:54:04 +0100 From: nclayton@lehman.com To: john , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: natd/ipfw docs References: <3741997C.46AB3F2F@memo.volvo.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <3741997C.46AB3F2F@memo.volvo.se>; from john on Tue, May 18, 1999 at 04:46:52PM +0000 Organization: Lehman Brothers Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, May 18, 1999 at 04:46:52PM +0000, john wrote: > First let take the opportunity to thank you for the wonderfull work you > do. It´s apperciated by many here at my office. Always nice to hear :-) > Beeing a recently added subscriber to the freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > mailinglist i see questions dayly on how to configure systems to run > Network Address Translation and Firewalls. I seems there is a lack of > documentation dealing with theese subjects, somewhere to point people > to. Having just set it up (fresh in memory :) i tought i´d write > something on the subject myself. What do you think, would this help > you,or is there already some documentation (besides man pages) for this > that i have missed? Firewalls are discussed in some detail in the Handbook at http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/firewalls.html and at http://www.dvl-software.com/freebsd/topics.htm#firewalls I don't NAT is covered in the Handbook, but you can see other people's documentation about it at http://www.freebsd.org/tutorials/ppp/ppp.html (section 4.3) http://www.dvl-software.com/freebsd/topics.htm#nat However, if you'd like to write more complete documentation about it, please do. You should probably take a look at http://www.freebsd.org/tutorials/docproj-primer/ first. N -- --+==[ Systems Administrator, Year 2000 Test Lab, Lehman Brothers, Inc. ]==+-- --+==[ 1 Broadgate, London, EC2M 7HA 0171-601-0011 x5514 ]==+-- --+==[ Year 2000 Testing: It's about time. . . ]==+-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu May 20 3: 3:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from alice.gba.oz.au (gba-254.tmx.com.au [203.9.155.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C22D314D96 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 03:03:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gjb@acm.org) Received: (qmail 18542 invoked by uid 1001); 20 May 1999 09:53:42 -0000 Message-ID: <19990520095342.18541.qmail@alice.gba.oz.au> X-Posted-By: GBA-Post 1.03 20-Sep-1998 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 5A91 6942 8CEA 9DAB B95B C249 1CE1 493B 2B5A CE30 Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 19:53:41 +1000 From: Greg Black To: Nik Clayton Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-translate@ngo.org.uk Subject: Re: FDP Directory Reorganisation References: <19990513211458.B70767@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <19990519214022.D60921@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> In-reply-to: <19990519214022.D60921@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> of Wed, 19 May 1999 21:40:22 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > The main change is replacing lang/encoding with lang.encoding, based on > the contents of /usr/share/locale. The articles/books/man split is > still there, and will remain unless someone can come up with something > better. I'm really disappointed to see books and articles still there, especially since all the feedback that I saw was in favour of eliminating the arbitrary distinction. > Why bother with the distinction between books and articles? > > We need something to distinguish between manual pages and everything > else. Otherwise we would have this directory filled with one directory > for piece of documentation, and then one more directory which would > contain all the manual pages. This is not an appealing idea. > > So we need at least one directory to lump all the non-manual pages in > to. Finding a useful name for this one directory is hard. tutorials is > wrong, as many of them are not tutorials. docs is too non-specific > (after all, the manual pages are ``docs'' as well). [...] > I am prepared to replace this with just one directory if someone can > come up with a good name for it. Just because it's a bit difficult to dream up the best name for this directory is a poor reason to impose an arbitrary division of similar documents based purely in their length. If nothing better is proposed, just call it "doc". It's not hard to figure out that "doc" means everything except the man pages (and it's not hard to say that somewhere). Of course, if somebody comes up with a better name than doc, then I'm all for it. But I am convinced that splitting this stuff into "books" and "articles" is a mistake -- and exactly the kind of mistake that should be strenuously avoided at a time like this when the whole structure is being revamped anyway. The other comment I'd make is that it's time to stop using names with upper case in them. If there is a strong historical reason why lots of people will be seriously inconvenienced if names like "FDP-primer" and "FAQ" are replaced by "fdp-primer" and "faq", then this can be solved for the time being with symlinks and a note that the symlinks are going to disappear when 4.x comes out. -- Greg Black To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu May 20 3:14:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from eagle.phc.igs.net (eagle.phc.igs.net [207.210.17.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A141150D8 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 03:14:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eagle@phc.igs.net) Received: from localhost (eagle@localhost) by eagle.phc.igs.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA90913; Thu, 20 May 1999 06:12:16 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from eagle@phc.igs.net) X-Authentication-Warning: eagle.phc.igs.net: eagle owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 06:12:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Rob Garrett To: Greg Black Cc: Nik Clayton , doc@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-translate@ngo.org.uk Subject: Re: FDP Directory Reorganisation In-Reply-To: <19990520095342.18541.qmail@alice.gba.oz.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hmm, other On Thu, 20 May 1999, Greg Black wrote: > > The main change is replacing lang/encoding with lang.encoding, based on > > the contents of /usr/share/locale. The articles/books/man split is > > still there, and will remain unless someone can come up with something > > better. > > I'm really disappointed to see books and articles still there, > especially since all the feedback that I saw was in favour of > eliminating the arbitrary distinction. > > > Why bother with the distinction between books and articles? > > > > We need something to distinguish between manual pages and everything > > else. Otherwise we would have this directory filled with one directory > > for piece of documentation, and then one more directory which would > > contain all the manual pages. This is not an appealing idea. > > > > So we need at least one directory to lump all the non-manual pages in > > to. Finding a useful name for this one directory is hard. tutorials is > > wrong, as many of them are not tutorials. docs is too non-specific > > (after all, the manual pages are ``docs'' as well). > [...] > > I am prepared to replace this with just one directory if someone can > > come up with a good name for it. > > Just because it's a bit difficult to dream up the best name for > this directory is a poor reason to impose an arbitrary division > of similar documents based purely in their length. > > If nothing better is proposed, just call it "doc". It's not > hard to figure out that "doc" means everything except the man > pages (and it's not hard to say that somewhere). Of course, if > somebody comes up with a better name than doc, then I'm all for > it. But I am convinced that splitting this stuff into "books" > and "articles" is a mistake -- and exactly the kind of mistake > that should be strenuously avoided at a time like this when the > whole structure is being revamped anyway. > > The other comment I'd make is that it's time to stop using names > with upper case in them. If there is a strong historical reason > why lots of people will be seriously inconvenienced if names > like "FDP-primer" and "FAQ" are replaced by "fdp-primer" and > "faq", then this can be solved for the time being with symlinks > and a note that the symlinks are going to disappear when 4.x > comes out. > > -- > Greg Black > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu May 20 5:28:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AD5314E58; Thu, 20 May 1999 05:28:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesusr@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from jesusr@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id FAA30391; Thu, 20 May 1999 05:28:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesusr@FreeBSD.org) Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 05:28:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199905201228.FAA30391@freefall.freebsd.org> To: kevlo@hello.com.tw, jesusr@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/11794: A typo in install.sgml and replace the stars with marker. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: A typo in install.sgml and replace the stars with marker. State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: jesusr State-Changed-When: Thu May 20 05:28:27 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks!. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu May 20 7: 5:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from www.keenesentinel.com (www.keenesentinel.com [204.97.20.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FA3B15310 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 07:05:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vdk@chaosphere.com) Received: from chaosphere.com (jvc.keenesentinel.com [204.97.20.57]) by www.keenesentinel.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id KAA13030 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 10:05:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <37441616.F133AAB0@chaosphere.com> Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 10:03:02 -0400 From: Jeff Clough X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: At&T-style ASM Tutorial? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org To Whom It May Concern: Having no experience with assembly outside of a DOS environment, and having forgotten nearly everything I learned before, I resolved to learn assembly all over again on my trusty FreeBSD box. While this endevour is certainly adventurous, I had no idea that there would be no maps to show me the way. Specifically, I note the absence of the following (granted, I might have missed something): - There are no tutorials for learning assembly using the AT&T syntax - There is no list of available OS interrupts (if they exist at all) - There are no instructions (human, not processor) for accessing the BIOS - There is no manifest available that says "This is what you need to know to write slick assembly under FreeBSD - An interrupt list ala "Ralph Brown's Interrupt List" for FreeBSD I spoke with someone a while ago about this (no one from the FreeBSD movement, this guy was a Linux-phile) and was told "Why would you want to learn AT&T!?! Just grab a copy of NASM you masochist!". This isn't all that practical since I use gcc exclusively and I like to stick with "standard" tools. I think you're more apt to find gas on a system than NASM. Plus, this still doesn't address the "How do I do X with FreeBSD?" issue. Now, the point: Since I'm learning this anyway and I love FreeBSD I'd like to get involved with a project that fills in the blanks I listed above. I would love to see a "A Guide To FreeBSD Assembler" or something similar. A nice friendly tutorial that assumes no knowledge of the Intel syntax. If there is currently a project underway that is doing this, I'd like to help. If not, I'd like to start one. Hopefully such a thing would put me in contact with people that can answer such questions as "How do I print something to the screen without using a call to printf, etc.?" Would such a thing be wonderful? Please let me know. Thanks! -Jeff To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu May 20 8:37:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ns.nobreak.com (ns.nobreak.com [210.105.79.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79FBF15268 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 08:37:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nobreak@nobreak.com) Received: from nobreak.com (nobreak.nobreak.com [210.105.79.103]) by ns.nobreak.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA23867 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 00:42:13 +0900 Message-ID: <37442C25.F96EC747@nobreak.com> Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 00:37:09 +0900 From: Seung-young Kim Reply-To: nobreak@nobreak.com Organization: Nobreak Technologies, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: freebsd.org domain Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi.. Hmm.. no more threads... all done? I think it's not clearly defined yet. Who is responsible for this? -- o R&D/Senior researcher: Seung-young Kim o Tel: +82-42-864-4440/1 , Fax: +82-42-864-4442 o Personal home: http://nobreak.nobreak.ne.kr _________________________________________________ Nobreak Technologies, Inc. http://www.nobreak.com The Power to Serve, Rock-stable FreeBSD! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu May 20 10:20: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC4AF1521F for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 10:20:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id KAA58329; Thu, 20 May 1999 10:20:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 32767) id 1CDDB14E79; Thu, 20 May 1999 10:15:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <19990520171530.1CDDB14E79@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 10:15:30 -0700 (PDT) From: kevlo@hello.com.tw To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/11803: Add new entry<6.7> in the FAQ. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11803 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Add new entry<6.7> in the FAQ. >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu May 20 10:20:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Kevin Lo >Release: 2.2.8-RELEASE >Organization: >Environment: FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE i386 >Description: Add new entry "Does FreeBSD support Java?" in applications.sgml. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: *** applications.sgml.old Fri May 21 01:10:36 1999 --- applications.sgml Fri May 21 01:06:16 1999 *************** *** 133,138 **** --- 133,146 ----

+ + + Does FreeBSD support Java? + +

Yes. Please see . + + >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu May 20 12:16:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from norquay.cal.shaw.wave.ca (norquay.cal.shaw.wave.ca [139.142.2.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B409515439 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 12:16:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fred.lau@shaw.ca) Received: from fabarca ([139.142.6.169]) by norquay.cal.shaw.wave.ca (Netscape Messaging Server 3.0) with SMTP id AAA23449 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 13:10:55 -0600 Message-ID: <37446098.4947@shaw.ca> Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 13:20:56 -0600 From: Fred Lau Reply-To: fred.lau@shaw.ca Organization: Shaw Cable X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0C-NSCP (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: bios Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org great job! 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The articles/books/man split is > > still there, and will remain unless someone can come up with something > > better. > > I'm really disappointed to see books and articles still there, > especially since all the feedback that I saw was in favour of > eliminating the arbitrary distinction. Two replies, both of which said "Yeah", without proposing an alternative. > > I am prepared to replace this with just one directory if someone can > > come up with a good name for it. > > Just because it's a bit difficult to dream up the best name for > this directory is a poor reason to impose an arbitrary division > of similar documents based purely in their length. It's not based on their length. The documentation will exist as documents marked up according to the DocBook DTD. The precise distinction is based upon the element describing the entire document. This will be one of either

or . If it's marked up as an article then it goes in articles/, as a book in books/, and as a manual page in man/. An alternative way of expressing this, without getting in to the SGML, is that if it has more than one chapter then it's a book, otherwise it's an article. > The other comment I'd make is that it's time to stop using names > with upper case in them. If there is a strong historical reason > why lots of people will be seriously inconvenienced if names > like "FDP-primer" and "FAQ" are replaced by "fdp-primer" and > "faq", then this can be solved for the time being with symlinks > and a note that the symlinks are going to disappear when 4.x > comes out. I'm agnostic on this issue. Unless anyone's strenuously in favour of mixed-case directory names they can all be smashed to lower case. N -- There's some milk in the fridge about to go off. . . and there it goes. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu May 20 16:48:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D1F314E6C for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 16:48:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id JAA15202; Fri, 21 May 1999 09:18:14 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) id JAA13752; Fri, 21 May 1999 09:18:13 +0930 (CST) Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 09:18:12 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Jeff Clough Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: At&T-style ASM Tutorial? Message-ID: <19990521091812.Q89091@freebie.lemis.com> References: <37441616.F133AAB0@chaosphere.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <37441616.F133AAB0@chaosphere.com>; from Jeff Clough on Thu, May 20, 1999 at 10:03:02AM -0400 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thursday, 20 May 1999 at 10:03:02 -0400, Jeff Clough wrote: > To Whom It May Concern: > > Having no experience with assembly outside of a DOS environment, and > having forgotten nearly everything I learned before, I resolved to learn > assembly all over again on my trusty FreeBSD box. While this endevour > is certainly adventurous, I had no idea that there would be no maps to > show me the way. Specifically, I note the absence of the following > (granted, I might have missed something): > > - There are no tutorials for learning assembly using the AT&T syntax > - There is no list of available OS interrupts (if they exist at all) I think you mean system calls. That's what part 2 of the manual is about. > - There are no instructions (human, not processor) for accessing the > BIOS FreeBSD doesn't use the BIOS. > - There is no manifest available that says "This is what you need to > know to write slick assembly under FreeBSD Right. Assembly has been deprecated in UNIX since 1973. > - An interrupt list ala "Ralph Brown's Interrupt List" for FreeBSD Again, look at section 2 of the manual. > I spoke with someone a while ago about this (no one from the FreeBSD > movement, this guy was a Linux-phile) and was told "Why would you want > to learn AT&T!?! Just grab a copy of NASM you masochist!". This isn't > all that practical since I use gcc exclusively and I like to stick with > "standard" tools. The standard programming tool for UNIX is the C compiler. > I think you're more apt to find gas on a system than NASM. Plus, > this still doesn't address the "How do I do X with FreeBSD?" issue. Right. NASM is pointless. > Now, the point: > > Since I'm learning this anyway and I love FreeBSD I'd like to get > involved with a project that fills in the blanks I listed above. I > would love to see a "A Guide To FreeBSD Assembler" or something > similar. A nice friendly tutorial that assumes no knowledge of the > Intel syntax. Despite all I've said above, this sounds like a very good idea. > If there is currently a project underway that is doing this, I'd > like to help. If not, I'd like to start one. Hopefully such a thing > would put me in contact with people that can answer such questions > as "How do I print something to the screen without using a call to > printf, etc.?" Well, I can answer that one. Use write(2). But that's documented. > Would such a thing be wonderful? Please let me know. I think you need to refocus a little bit. UNIX is an operating system, which means that you have no specific advantage in using assembly in userland code. There is some advantage in using it in kernel code, and certainly things like instruction mnemonics should be documented. But there's very little you can really do with assembler. I'd suggest you start with the gas manual (look in /usr/src/contrib/binutils/gas/doc/) and flesh that out with stuff you think's appropriate. You might like to look at some of the low-level kernel code in /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/ to get an idea how things are used. If you have any specific questions, drop me a line. Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu May 20 19:55:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B786414D65; Thu, 20 May 1999 19:55:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkoshy@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from jkoshy@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id TAA08793; Thu, 20 May 1999 19:55:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkoshy@FreeBSD.org) Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 19:55:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199905210255.TAA08793@freefall.freebsd.org> To: kevlo@hello.com.tw, jkoshy@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/11803: Add new entry<6.7> in the FAQ. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Add new entry<6.7> in the FAQ. State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: jkoshy State-Changed-When: Thu May 20 19:54:18 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Patch applied to rev 1.10 of "doc/FAQ/applications.sgml", thanks! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri May 21 4:39:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from darius.concentric.net (darius.concentric.net [207.155.198.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCC19152DF for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 04:39:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Seekker@concentric.net) Received: from mcfeely.concentric.net (mcfeely [207.155.198.83]) by darius.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id HAA06704; Fri, 21 May 1999 07:39:50 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from Seekker (ts002d24.akr-oh.concentric.net [206.173.107.84]) by mcfeely.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id HAA29334; Fri, 21 May 1999 07:39:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000101bea37e$a01e4e20$546badce@Seekker> From: "Seekker" To: Subject: subscribe or join Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 07:39:41 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I would like to subscribe or join your mailing list. Thank you. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat May 22 4: 0: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA7F414E7F for ; Sat, 22 May 1999 04:00:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id EAA38527; Sat, 22 May 1999 04:00:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 32767) id 9CE6914E7F; Sat, 22 May 1999 03:50:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <19990522105043.9CE6914E7F@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 03:50:43 -0700 (PDT) From: rse@engelschall.com To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/11832: JUst a little typo into sigaltstack(2)... Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11832 >Category: docs >Synopsis: JUst a little typo into sigaltstack(2)... >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat May 22 04:00:02 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Ralf S. Engelschall >Release: 3.2 >Organization: Cable & Wireless ECRC >Environment: >Description: Just a little typo in sigaltstack(2) manual page. >How-To-Repeat: $ man sigaltstack >Fix: --- usr/src/lib/libc/sys/sigaltstack.2.orig Sat May 22 12:46:15 1999 +++ usr/src/lib/libc/sys/sigaltstack.2 Sat May 22 12:46:25 1999 @@ -136,7 +136,7 @@ .Va errno is set to indicate the error. .Sh ERRORS -.Fn Sigstack +.Fn Sigaltstack will fail and the signal stack context will remain unchanged if one of the following occurs. .Bl -tag -width [ENOMEM] >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat May 22 15:23:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from unknown (sar-fl2-27.ix.netcom.com [205.184.138.91]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 30D5614FCB; Sat, 22 May 1999 15:23:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from netstar44@popmail.com) From: Subject: FREE Y2K FIX !!! <..,:adv.,,< Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 18:24:51 Message-Id: <228.831242.439563@unknown> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ***************************************************************** ***************************************************************** THE GOOD NEWS IS: You can now test your computer for full Y2K compliance,(both BIOS and REAL TIME CLOCKS), and even correct it with a simple inexpensive download. 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For additional information on our free evaluation period, visit our site at: www.freey2kdownload.com ***************************************************************** To be removed from this mailing list please reply to: y2kfreetest.com and type REMOVE on the subject line. ***************************************************************** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat May 22 18: 0:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FD211520D for ; Sat, 22 May 1999 18:00:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id SAA69271; Sat, 22 May 1999 18:00:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from leap.innerx.net (leap.innerx.net [38.179.176.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B420E15101 for ; Sat, 22 May 1999 17:54:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@holly.dyndns.org) Received: from holly.dyndns.org (ip216.houston13.tx.pub-ip.psi.net [38.27.213.216]) by leap.innerx.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96F82370BF for ; Sat, 22 May 1999 20:54:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA09872; Sat, 22 May 1999 19:56:13 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from chris) Message-Id: <199905230056.TAA09872@holly.dyndns.org> Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 19:56:13 -0500 (CDT) From: chris@calldei.com Reply-To: chris@calldei.com To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/11849: [Patch] doc/en/handbook/kerneldebug/chapter.sgml is out of date Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11849 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [Patch] doc/en/handbook/kerneldebug/chapter.sgml is out of date >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat May 22 18:00:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Chris Costello >Release: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: None. >Environment: doc tree, CVSupped a couple days ago. >Description: kerneldebug/chapter.sgml refers to out of date information, such as how to build a debug kernel. Also, it has a typo and a contraction that could be avoided. These synopsis lines are a bit redundant, eh? >How-To-Repeat: See http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/x19251.html >Fix: Index: chapter.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en/handbook/kerneldebug/chapter.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.13 diff -u -r1.13 chapter.sgml --- chapter.sgml 1999/04/12 04:41:20 1.13 +++ chapter.sgml 1999/05/23 00:50:55 @@ -242,7 +242,7 @@ &prompt.root; ddd -k /var/crash/kernel.0 /var/crash/vmcore.0 You should then be able to go about looking at the crash dump using - ddd'd graphical interface. + ddd's graphical interface. @@ -254,15 +254,17 @@ Of course, you still need to enable crash dumps. See above on the options you have to specify in order to do this. - - Go to your kernel compile directory, and edit the line containing - COPTFLAGS?=-O. Add the option - there (but do not change anything on the level of - optimization). If you do already know roughly the probable location of - the failing piece of code (e.g., the pcvt - driver in the example above), remove all the object files for this code. - Rebuild the kernel. Due to the time stamp change on the Makefile, there - will be some other object files rebuild, for example + + Go to your kernel config directory + (/usr/src/sys/arch/conf) + and edit your configuration file. Uncomment (or add, if it does not + exist) the following line + +makeoptions DEBUG=-g #Build kernel with gdb(1) debug symbols + + + Rebuild the kernel. Due to the time stamp change on the Makefile, + there will be some other object files rebuild, for example trap.o. With a bit of luck, the added option will not change anything for the generated code, so you will finally get a new kernel with similar code to the @@ -481,7 +483,7 @@ On-line Kernel Debugging Using Remote GDB - This feature has been supported since FreeBSD 2.2, and it's actually + This feature has been supported since FreeBSD 2.2, and it is actually a very neat one. GDB has already supported remote debugging for >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat May 22 18:10: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEE6F14EE8 for ; Sat, 22 May 1999 18:10:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id SAA69737; Sat, 22 May 1999 18:10:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 32767) id 5A51714DB8; Sat, 22 May 1999 18:08:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <19990523010817.5A51714DB8@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 18:08:17 -0700 (PDT) From: dwhite@pond.net To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/11852: 3.X install requires 12MB of RAM, not 8 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11852 >Category: docs >Synopsis: 3.X install requires 12MB of RAM, not 8 >Confidential: no >Severity: serious >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat May 22 18:10:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Doug White >Release: 3.2-RELEASE >Organization: Pacific Crest Networks, Inc >Environment: 3.1 and 3.2-RELEASE install floppies >Description: The RAM requirements for FreeBSD installation have subtly increased since the inclusion of the second floppy. Most of our documentation says that 8MB is required, while experimentation shows that 12MB is needed. Signs that you have less than 12MB installed include system lockups when installing (esp. during the extraction phase). >How-To-Repeat: Install 3.1 or 3.2 on a machine with 8MB of RAM. >Fix: Fix afflicted documentation. I found one reference in the Handbook's installation section. I'm not aware of any in the FAQ or other docs, but consider this a HEADS-UP to fix such documentation. If there's no objections I can fix the handbook reference. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat May 22 18:40: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 080DC15222 for ; Sat, 22 May 1999 18:40:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id SAA71097; Sat, 22 May 1999 18:40:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 18:40:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905230140.SAA71097@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: From: Tim Vanderhoek Subject: Re: docs/11852: 3.X install requires 12MB of RAM, not 8 Reply-To: Tim Vanderhoek Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/11852; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Tim Vanderhoek To: dwhite@pond.net Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/11852: 3.X install requires 12MB of RAM, not 8 Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 21:36:53 -0400 On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 06:08:17PM -0700, dwhite@pond.net wrote: > > The RAM requirements for FreeBSD installation have subtly increased > since the inclusion of the second floppy. Most of our documentation > says that 8MB is required, while experimentation shows that 12MB > is needed. I remember my first install was onto a 4MB machine. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat May 22 19:20: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D2E5152DC for ; Sat, 22 May 1999 19:20:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id TAA72787; Sat, 22 May 1999 19:20:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from strike.velocet.ca (strike.velocet.ca [209.167.225.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B169B151C5 for ; Sat, 22 May 1999 19:13:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@strike.velocet.ca) Received: (from root@localhost) by strike.velocet.ca (8.9.2/8.9.2) id WAA00648; Sat, 22 May 1999 22:13:45 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from root) Message-Id: <199905230213.WAA00648@strike.velocet.ca> Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 22:13:45 -0400 (EDT) From: dgilbert@velocet.ca Reply-To: dgilbert@velocet.ca To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/11856: ps(1) man page incorrectly references vadvise(2) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11856 >Category: docs >Synopsis: references to vadvise(2) should probably be madvise(2) >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat May 22 19:20:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: David Gilbert >Release: FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE i386 >Organization: Velocet Communications >Environment: FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE >Description: ps(1) man page references vadvise(2) multiple times. It would appear that this reference should be madvise(2) --- there is no vadvise(2) man page. >How-To-Repeat: man ps --- then search for vadvise >Fix: *** ps.1 Sat May 22 22:12:47 1999 --- ps.1.old Sat May 22 22:12:26 1999 *************** *** 273,279 **** the process has asked for random page replacement .Pf ( Dv VA_ANOM , from ! .Xr madvise 2 , for example, .Xr lisp 1 in a garbage collect). --- 273,279 ---- the process has asked for random page replacement .Pf ( Dv VA_ANOM , from ! .Xr vadvise 2 , for example, .Xr lisp 1 in a garbage collect). *************** *** 293,299 **** page replacement .Pf ( Dv VA_SEQL , from ! .Xr madvise 2 , for example, a large image processing program using virtual memory to sequentially address voluminous data). .It s --- 293,299 ---- page replacement .Pf ( Dv VA_SEQL , from ! .Xr vadvise 2 , for example, a large image processing program using virtual memory to sequentially address voluminous data). .It s >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun May 23 1:41:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from alice.gba.oz.au (gba-254.tmx.com.au [203.9.155.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6BFF614D74 for ; Sun, 23 May 1999 01:41:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gjb-freebsd@gba.oz.au) Received: (qmail 106 invoked by uid 1001); 23 May 1999 02:31:58 -0000 Message-ID: <19990523023158.105.qmail@alice.gba.oz.au> X-Posted-By: GBA-Post 1.03 20-Sep-1998 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 5A91 6942 8CEA 9DAB B95B C249 1CE1 493B 2B5A CE30 Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 12:31:58 +1000 From: Greg Black To: Nik Clayton Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-translate@ngo.org.uk Subject: Re: FDP Directory Reorganisation References: <19990513211458.B70767@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <19990519214022.D60921@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <19990520095342.18541.qmail@alice.gba.oz.au> <19990520232510.A54603@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> In-reply-to: <19990520232510.A54603@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> of Thu, 20 May 1999 23:25:10 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [Re "articles" and "books":] > > > I am prepared to replace this with just one directory if someone can > > > come up with a good name for it. > > > > Just because it's a bit difficult to dream up the best name for > > this directory is a poor reason to impose an arbitrary division > > of similar documents based purely in their length. > > It's not based on their length. > > The documentation will exist as documents marked up according to the > DocBook DTD. The precise distinction is based upon the element describing > the entire document. This will be one of either
or . If > it's marked up as an article then it goes in articles/, as a book in > books/, and as a manual page in man/. > > An alternative way of expressing this, without getting in to the SGML, > is that if it has more than one chapter then it's a book, otherwise it's > an article. This is a semantic distinction based on something that is utterly irrelevant to any /user/ of the documentation. If the object of the documentation is to provide help to the users of the documentation, then the organisation needs to based on distinctions that make sense to those users. I have proposed putting "articles" and "books" into a single directory called "doc". I don't particularly care if the name is "doc" or anything else, but I am convinced that it makes more sense to a user of the documentation to find all the documents of this kind in the one place. I've made my point and won't pursue it further. -- Greg Black -- or -- BSD Unix software development, documentation and consulting. No Microsoft or Microsoft-compatible products used or supported. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun May 23 4:14:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (baerenklau.de.freebsd.org [195.185.195.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2F0215102 for ; Sun, 23 May 1999 04:14:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from w@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id NAA01601; Sun, 23 May 1999 13:13:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from w@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from w@localhost) by paula.panke.de.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.8.8) id NAA04288; Sun, 23 May 1999 13:03:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from w) Message-ID: <19990523130305.01354@panke.de.freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 13:03:05 +0200 From: Wolfram Schneider To: Greg Black , Nik Clayton Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-translate@ngo.org.uk Subject: Re: FDP Directory Reorganisation References: <19990513211458.B70767@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <19990519214022.D60921@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <19990520095342.18541.qmail@alice.gba.oz.au> <19990520232510.A54603@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <19990523023158.105.qmail@alice.gba.oz.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <19990523023158.105.qmail@alice.gba.oz.au>; from Greg Black on Sun, May 23, 1999 at 12:31:58PM +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 1999-05-23 12:31:58 +1000, Greg Black wrote: > [Re "articles" and "books":] > > > > I am prepared to replace this with just one directory if someone can > > > > come up with a good name for it. > > > > > > Just because it's a bit difficult to dream up the best name for > > > this directory is a poor reason to impose an arbitrary division > > > of similar documents based purely in their length. > > > > It's not based on their length. > > > > The documentation will exist as documents marked up according to the > > DocBook DTD. The precise distinction is based upon the element describing > > the entire document. This will be one of either
or . If > > it's marked up as an article then it goes in articles/, as a book in > > books/, and as a manual page in man/. > > > > An alternative way of expressing this, without getting in to the SGML, > > is that if it has more than one chapter then it's a book, otherwise it's > > an article. > > This is a semantic distinction based on something that is > utterly irrelevant to any /user/ of the documentation. If the > object of the documentation is to provide help to the users of > the documentation, then the organisation needs to based on > distinctions that make sense to those users. Right. Users don't care which different SGML DTD we are using internally for our documentation. > I have proposed putting "articles" and "books" into a single > directory called "doc". I don't particularly care if the name > is "doc" or anything else, but I am convinced that it makes more > sense to a user of the documentation to find all the documents > of this kind in the one place. The directory name /doc/ is fine. The location of documents on the web server may differ from the directory structure of the cvs repository. E.g. we may have an URL on the web server /doc/printing/ with links to the documents: How to print How to setup a printer Advanced Printer Setup How to setup a network printer Manual pages for printing FAQ printing and the directory structure in the repository is doc/en.8859-1/book/handbook/printing-sysadmin/ doc/en.8859-1/article/faq/printing-trouble/ doc/en.8859-1/article/printing-for-users/ -- Wolfram Schneider http://wolfram.schneider.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun May 23 9:32:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f22.hotmail.com [207.82.251.202]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A070B15097 for ; Sun, 23 May 1999 09:32:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from orion_m27@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 29332 invoked by uid 0); 23 May 1999 16:32:37 -0000 Message-ID: <19990523163237.29331.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 212.38.130.182 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sun, 23 May 1999 09:32:37 PDT X-Originating-IP: [212.38.130.182] From: "mohad alharthy" To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Question Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 09:32:37 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi there I need some information about server's when us connection with your copan : The Server is mIRC server in DalNet with FreeBSD version 2.2.7 ,10-15mbps ,T1-T3 , 1500 clients at lest and hav 7000,7325 required ports and every thing about it is . so please i waiting answer :) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon May 24 1:25:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF9DF14F6A; Mon, 24 May 1999 01:25:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sheldonh@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from sheldonh@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id BAA55938; Mon, 24 May 1999 01:25:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sheldonh@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 01:25:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199905240825.BAA55938@freefall.freebsd.org> To: toasty@home.dragondata.com, sheldonh@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/5487: Adding documentation for scsi(8) usage with autoloaders Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Adding documentation for scsi(8) usage with autoloaders State-Changed-From-To: suspended->closed State-Changed-By: sheldonh State-Changed-When: Mon May 24 01:24:07 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: We don't use scsi(8) any more. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon May 24 1:32:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from crash.videotron.ab.ca (crash.videotron.ab.ca [206.75.216.220]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D26614BFE for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 01:32:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roxxwyld@powersurfr.com) Received: from powersurfr.com (db.dbmultimedia.com [24.108.17.203]) by crash.videotron.ab.ca (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id CAA01607 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 02:27:26 -0600 (MDT) From: roxxwyld@powersurfr.com Message-ID: <35669728.A6E58D55@powersurfr.com> Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 02:30:17 -0700 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (Win98; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: how can you download it? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I cant seem to get on with an ftp client to download it and theres no http zip archive. 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Majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon May 24 2: 3:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from dpx20.tu-varna.acad.bg (unknown [194.12.234.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AE15151D6 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 02:02:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@www.koral.bg) Received: from www.bgzone.com (ns.bgzone.com [194.12.235.81]) by dpx20.tu-varna.acad.bg (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA37400 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 12:01:25 +0300 Received: from www.koral.bg (koral [194.12.235.94]) by www.bgzone.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA02880 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 10:01:36 GMT Received: from www (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.koral.bg (8.9.2/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA10093 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 12:01:19 +0300 (EEST) Message-Id: <199905240901.MAA10093@www.koral.bg> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: subscribe Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 12:01:19 +0300 From: Charlie Root Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Did someone could get oportunity to translate docs into Bulgarian? I want to help you because I prefer FreeBSD than Linux OS-es and this is the way to populize this OS in Bulgaria. Dimitar Peikov root@www.koral.bg root@www.bgzone.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon May 24 2:20: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from firewall2.lehman.com (firewall.Lehman.COM [192.147.65.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 730E914DA3 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 02:19:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nclayton@lehman.com) Received: from relay.messaging-svcs2.lehman.com by firewall2.lehman.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) id FAA17903; Mon, 24 May 1999 05:03:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lonmailhost.lehman.com by relay.messaging-svcs2.lehman.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) id FAA14144; Mon, 24 May 1999 05:02:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lonmailhost.lehman.com (SMI-8.6/Lehman Bros. V1.5) id KAA09632; Mon, 24 May 1999 10:02:36 +0100 Message-ID: <19990524100236.V12185@lehman.com> Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 10:02:36 +0100 From: nclayton@lehman.com To: Greg Black , Nik Clayton Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-translate@ngo.org.uk Subject: Re: FDP Directory Reorganisation References: <19990513211458.B70767@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <19990519214022.D60921@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <19990520095342.18541.qmail@alice.gba.oz.au> <19990520232510.A54603@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <19990523023158.105.qmail@alice.gba.oz.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <19990523023158.105.qmail@alice.gba.oz.au>; from Greg Black on Sun, May 23, 1999 at 12:31:58PM +1000 Organization: Lehman Brothers Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, May 23, 1999 at 12:31:58PM +1000, Greg Black wrote: > [Re "articles" and "books":] > > An alternative way of expressing this, without getting in to the SGML, > > is that if it has more than one chapter then it's a book, otherwise it's > > an article. > > This is a semantic distinction based on something that is > utterly irrelevant to any /user/ of the documentation. Agree. 100%. > If the > object of the documentation is to provide help to the users of > the documentation, then the organisation needs to based on > distinctions that make sense to those users. Disagree. Here's why. The organisation *within the repository* is (or should be) of zero interest to the end user of the documentation. There's no reason why the directory hierarchy within the repository, and the directory hierarchy of the installed documentation should map to each other one to one. Categorising things is a hard problem. Take a look at http://www.freebsddiary.com/freebsd/topics.htm for example. Notice how many entries are duplicated under different headings? The IP Filter and Firewall sections, for example. I think trying to categorise based on content within the repository is ultimately futile. There will be cases where there is no clear category for a document to go in. So do you create a new category for this document? Lump it in a "misc" category with some other documents? Misfile it? None of these are good solutions. However, as I say above, I agree with you that a distinction based on SGML element choices is of no interest to the end user. Fortunately, we don't need to make this distinction when we install the documentation. There's no reason why the Makefile that installs each piece of documentation can't have a ${CATEGORIES} variable (or some other appropriate name) that lists the categories of documentation that this document falls into. For example, something that lives in the books/printing directory might have CATEGORIES= books sysadmin printing mswindows in the Makefile, indicating that the formatted documentation should be installed in to /usr/local/share/doc/FDP/{books,sysadmin,printing,mswindows} directories because 1. It's a "book" 2. Printing is a "Sys Admin" topic. 3. Printing is deemed to be important enough to have it's own top level category as well. 4. It explains how Windows hosts can print to printers attached to FreeBSD boxes. This gives the end-user much more freedom when it comes to finding the documentation they need. The installed docs can be copies, or links as necessary, but that's really an implementation issue. The actual categories to be used (or at least a first cut at them) can be decided relatively easily on this list. More importantly, the list of categories can be easily expanded to accommodate new documentation without any of the problems I outline above. In the meantime, back in the repository, we still need to separate out the manual pages from everything else. The books/articles distinction is completely mechanical (there's no discussion about whether something is a book or an article, it's a simple decision) and makes it a little bit easier for people writing new documentation to find example of a particular type of documentation that they can crib from. I'm happy with another distinction between the documentation sets, as long as it can be applied mechanically (i.e., no wondering about which category the documentation goes in to) and fits in with the existing man/ directory. man/articles/books fits that. There's a simple progression in the documentation detail from left to right, and deciding which directory to put the docs in is trivial. doc/ or docs/ doesn't. Manual pages are also "docs". N -- --+==[ Systems Administrator, Year 2000 Test Lab, Lehman Brothers, Inc. ]==+-- --+==[ 1 Broadgate, London, EC2M 7HA 0171-601-0011 x5514 ]==+-- --+==[ Year 2000 Testing: It's about time. . . ]==+-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon May 24 3:16:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp05.wxs.nl (smtp05.wxs.nl [195.121.6.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80EB114CFF for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 03:16:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.196.55]) by smtp05.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with ESMTP id AAA1555; Mon, 24 May 1999 12:15:25 +0200 Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org (abaddon@daemon [192.168.0.1]) by daemon.ninth-circle.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA29381; Mon, 24 May 1999 12:15:40 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <35669728.A6E58D55@powersurfr.com> Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 12:15:40 +0200 (CEST) Organization: Ninth Circle Enterprises From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: roxxwyld@powersurfr.com Subject: RE: how can you download it? Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 23-May-98 roxxwyld@powersurfr.com wrote: > I cant seem to get on with an ftp client to download it and theres no > http zip archive. > HELP try ftp.freebsd.org ftp2.freebsd.org ftp..freebsd.org There's a multitude of mirrors. See webpages for more info. --- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven asmodai(at)wxs.nl The FreeBSD Programmer's Documentation Project Network/Security Specialist *BSD: Accept no limitations... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon May 24 11: 0:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED4071546B for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 11:00:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id LAA74957 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 24 May 1999 11:00:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 11:00:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905241800.LAA74957@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: peter set sender to owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: FreeBSD doc list Subject: Current unassigned doc problem reports Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Current FreeBSD problem reports The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. Bugs can be in one of several states: o - open A problem report has been submitted, no sanity checking performed. a - analyzed The report has been examined by a team member and evaluated. f - feedback The problem has been solved, and the originator has been given a patch or a fix has been committed. The PR remains in this state pending a response from the originator. s - suspended The problem is not being worked on. This is a prime candidate for somebody who is looking for a project to do. If the problem cannot be solved at all, it will be closed, rather than suspended. c - closed A problem report is closed when any changes have been integrated, documented, and tested. Critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [1999/02/14] docs/10088 doc Documentation search results o [1999/04/26] docs/11348 doc Correction to previous Y2K information 2 problems total. Serious problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [1999/01/22] docs/9618 doc many typos in groff_mm(7) a [1999/02/17] docs/10135 doc Change to Documention Regarding Upgrades o [1999/05/02] docs/11438 doc clueless how to discover my NE2000 clone o [1999/05/08] docs/11595 doc The gencommercial.pl script ignores the l o [1999/05/12] docs/11667 doc fstab options for cd9660 mount not mentio o [1999/05/22] docs/11852 doc 3.X install requires 12MB of RAM, not 8 6 problems total. Non-critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [1998/04/14] docs/6295 doc Reference to nonexistent file in Device D o [1998/04/15] docs/6307 doc sgmlfmt not `make -jN' ready o [1998/05/18] docs/6681 doc docu. addition a [1998/07/31] docs/7456 doc dialog(3) man page outdated a [1998/08/31] docs/7791 doc ipf(1) and ipfstat(1) should have been ip o [1998/09/13] docs/7914 doc no elf(5) manpage o [1998/10/25] docs/8445 doc Update of "Installing Mathematica on Free o [1998/11/10] docs/8640 doc proposed change of 4.5 o [1998/11/19] docs/8765 doc some suggested text for describing passwo o [1999/01/06] docs/9352 doc wrong macro names in groff_[ms|mm|mmse].7 o [1999/01/29] docs/9773 doc Handbook 4.7.1.4. "Testing the port" is i o [1999/01/31] docs/9837 doc fix to doc/handbook/porting.sgml o [1999/02/10] docs/10017 doc Added a site and bug fix o [1999/02/11] docs/10038 doc Added a site and bug fix (part two) o [1999/02/14] docs/10084 doc new FreeBSD user group in Yogyakarta City o [1999/02/14] docs/10085 doc NIS Setup Tutorial o [1999/02/14] docs/10098 doc Lack of overall guide for NIS setup o [1999/02/15] docs/10108 doc Addition to fstab.5 o [1999/02/18] docs/10146 doc Release Notes and LINT for 3.1 include ha o [1999/02/21] docs/10180 doc Another mirror site not listed... o [1999/02/21] docs/10182 doc http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?p o [1999/02/25] docs/10240 doc We need a script which check if our web m o [1999/02/25] docs/10256 doc handbook on cvsup... o [1999/03/01] docs/10331 doc pccardd(8) claims FreeBSD does not suppor o [1999/03/03] docs/10378 doc option -s missing in lptcontrol.8 o [1999/03/04] docs/10388 doc Obsolete information in Handbook o [1999/03/05] docs/10403 doc CDE is no longer sold by Xi Graphics. o [1999/03/05] docs/10408 doc [quasi-patch] Grammar nitpicks in Handboo o [1999/03/07] docs/10472 doc Mailing list for discussion of Xircom dri o [1999/03/07] docs/10474 doc A command line in a man document is incom o [1999/03/08] docs/10488 doc Error in entry for 02/27 in calendar.hist o [1999/03/08] docs/10500 doc spell error o [1999/03/09] docs/10512 doc ENOBUFS returnable from writev(2) but not o [1999/03/16] docs/10624 doc typos/innacuracies in wfd(4) man page o [1999/03/18] docs/10659 doc Many syscall man pages have an IMPLEMENTA o [1999/03/18] docs/10660 doc User Group not listed o [1999/03/18] docs/10664 doc Notes on 2.2.8 -> 3.1 migration o [1999/03/21] docs/10704 doc strange sentence in doc/handbook/ctm.sgml o [1999/03/23] docs/10762 doc geocrawler.com mailing list archives o [1999/03/27] docs/10819 doc Documentation add o [1999/03/28] docs/10840 doc [PATCH] Add pcic double-loading bug fix t o [1999/03/28] docs/10847 doc lpbb.4's PostScript output format is brok o [1999/03/29] docs/10850 doc submitting a documentation change for sed o [1999/03/30] docs/10877 doc manpage for objformat incorrectly mention o [1999/04/07] docs/10997 doc Problem with query-pr-summary.cgi o [1999/04/08] docs/11028 doc new text for FAQ to explain branches o [1999/04/11] docs/11087 doc Portland FreeBSD users group o [1999/04/11] docs/11089 doc freebsd user group, sydney o [1999/04/11] docs/11090 doc User's group in Melbourne Australia o [1999/04/21] docs/11258 doc suggestion to refine npx.4 o [1999/05/05] docs/11506 doc some typos in dhclient.conf.5 o [1999/05/07] docs/11561 doc a typo in dhclient.conf.5 man-pages o [1999/05/08] docs/11589 doc Missing #includes in aio_read(2) o [1999/05/08] docs/11596 doc namei(9) says inode, not vnode o [1999/05/09] docs/11607 doc RLIMIT_MEMLOCK not implemented o [1999/05/09] docs/11615 doc Handbook: linux emulation documentation o o [1999/05/11] docs/11643 doc handbook should state alternatives o [1999/05/11] docs/11645 doc The dir(5) manpage does not mention the u o [1999/05/13] docs/11688 doc clarify send-pr categories... o [1999/05/13] docs/11695 doc [Patch] src/share/man/man7/hier.7 is out o [1999/05/13] docs/11704 doc Missing subject of 2nd sentence of third o [1999/05/14] docs/11709 doc swapon(8) references strange devices o [1999/05/16] docs/11733 doc Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/admin.sgml o [1999/05/18] docs/11774 doc fixups for man page for vmstat(8) o [1999/05/19] docs/11777 doc Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/network.sgml o [1999/05/22] docs/11832 doc JUst a little typo into sigaltstack(2)... o [1999/05/22] docs/11849 doc [Patch] doc/en/handbook/kerneldebug/chapt o [1999/05/22] docs/11856 doc references to vadvise(2) should probably 68 problems total. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon May 24 19: 6:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx.ks.edu.tw (mx.ks.edu.tw [163.16.1.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 721ED154B3 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 19:05:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from foxfair@news.ks.edu.tw) Received: from ms.ks.edu.tw (ks.edu.tw [163.16.1.1]) by mx.ks.edu.tw (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA10153 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 09:56:56 +0800 Received: from MS/SpoolDir by ms.ks.edu.tw (Mercury 1.21); 25 May 99 10:08:42 +0800 Received: from SpoolDir by MS (Mercury 1.21); 17 May 99 09:47:43 +0800 Received: from news.ks.edu.tw by ms.ks.edu.tw (Mercury 1.21); 17 May 99 09:47:42 +0800 Received: from foxfair (foxfair.cc.nsysu.edu.tw [140.117.100.101]) by news.ks.edu.tw (Postfix) with SMTP id BE7DA12E7 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 09:34:55 +0800 (CST) Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 09:46:11 +0800 From: Foxfair Hu To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [RU-DOC] FDP Directory Reorganization Message-Id: <373F74E31E0.FC2CFOXFAIR@news.ks.edu.tw> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=BIG5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver 1.25.04 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [......] :So it becomes something like : doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/* : articles/* : ja_JP.EUC/books/* : articles/* : zh_BN.EUC/books/* It should be "zh_CN.EUC", CN -> China(Mainland of China). : articles/* : zh_TW.BIG5/books/* : articles/* :and so on instead. : :Two questions. :First, what do the _JP, _BN, and _TW signify? Could they be dropped from :the name? I realise that the locale/ directory they allow you to :differentiate between "Chinese (China)" and "Chinese (Taiwan)". But is :that distinction useful for the documentation? : zh_CN.EUC ,aka., Simplified Chinese, has a very different character set with zh-TW.BIG5 , aka., Traditional Chinese. The main problem is Chinese people use two kinds of Chinese words for years, so now it is not just the encoding problem, but also the problem of regional culture and community. For example, this English word "memory", use Roma-spelling method under Traditional Chinese we call it "ji yi ti"(°O¾ÐÅé), but under Simplified Chinese it is called by "nei tsuen"(ÄÚ´æ). As anyone can see and understand , they are the whole different words. :< So in this case, we are *NOT* just like Kuriyama-san said "maintain three contently same but different encoding texts in CVS repository". Those two different types of encoding methods derive from regional culture and community, and should be divided into the way they used to be. My suggestion(This is our discussion of FreeBSD Chinese Doc-Project mailing list, too) is use zh.BIG5 && zh.GB, not zh.EUC. The suffix "GB" stands for GB{_1988-80, _2312-80}(ref : RFC 1345), and the prefix "zh" means "Jung Hua". That's meaningful for us. Sorry for responsing late, I have a busy week. :) Cheers, -Foxfair To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue May 25 2:16:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A509F1562F; Tue, 25 May 1999 02:16:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hoek@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from hoek@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id CAA60345; Tue, 25 May 1999 02:16:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hoek@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 02:16:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199905250916.CAA60345@freefall.freebsd.org> To: sjr@home.net, hoek@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/11348: Correction to previous Y2K information Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Correction to previous Y2K information State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: hoek State-Changed-When: Tue May 25 02:15:02 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Fixed, thanks! (ie. patch applied) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue May 25 2:35:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2233C14D51; Tue, 25 May 1999 02:35:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hoek@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from hoek@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id CAA62793; Tue, 25 May 1999 02:35:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hoek@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 02:35:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199905250935.CAA62793@freefall.freebsd.org> To: hoek@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, hoek@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/9618: many typos in groff_mm(7) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: many typos in groff_mm(7) Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->hoek Responsible-Changed-By: hoek Responsible-Changed-When: Tue May 25 02:33:53 PDT 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: To prevent the unlikely case of someone fixing the other half while I look at it... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue May 25 3:32:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 710) id 1BD1515667; Tue, 25 May 1999 03:32:44 -0700 (PDT) To: hoek@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.ORG From: hoek@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/11438 Message-Id: <19990525103244.1BD1515667@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 03:32:44 -0700 (PDT) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: clueless how to discover my NE2000 clone IRQ / MemAddr Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->freebsd-bugs Responsible-Changed-By: hoek Responsible-Changed-When: Tue May 25 03:30:21 PDT 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: Not freebsd-doc mati Not freebsd-doc material. This pr for FreeBSD 2.2.0 should probably be closed. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue May 25 4: 7:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from stampede.cs.berkeley.edu (stampede.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.45.124]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F03C714E66 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 04:07:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asami@cs.berkeley.edu) Received: from silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (sji-ca41-214.ix.netcom.com [209.111.208.214]) by stampede.cs.berkeley.edu (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA05604; Tue, 25 May 1999 04:06:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (8.9.2/8.6.9) id EAA67875; Tue, 25 May 1999 04:05:12 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 04:05:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905251105.EAA67875@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: silvia.hip.berkeley.edu: asami set sender to asami@cs.berkeley.edu using -f To: horikawa@jp.freebsd.org Cc: ache@nagual.pp.ru, horikawa@jp.freebsd.org, nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk, ru-freebsd-doc@freebsd.ru, doc@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-translate@ngo.org.uk In-reply-to: <19990517160148W.horikawa@ebina.hitachi.co.jp> (message from Kazuo Horikawa on Mon, 17 May 1999 16:01:48 +0900 (JST)) Subject: Re: Replace man/ja with man/ja_JP.EUC (FDP Directory Reorganization) From: asami@FreeBSD.ORG (Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami) References: <19990516183643.A15766@nagual.pp.ru> <19990517160148W.horikawa@ebina.hitachi.co.jp> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org * From: Kazuo Horikawa Sorry, should have replied to this sooner. * I understand that we need not have more than one subdirectory under * man/ to store Japanese online manuals. * * I think that replacing /usr/share/man/ja with /usr/share/man/ja_JP.EUC * could be done easily (by modification of doc/ja/man/Makefile.inc and * src/etc/mtree/BSD.usr.dist). But, replacing /usr/local/man/ja with * /usr/local/man/ja_JP.EUC may not be easy, because this replace forces * ports' maintainers to rewrite manpage destinations (all pkg/PLIST * which contains man/ja should be modified). Mr. Asami, is this change * acceptable for ports team? I'm still not convinced why this is necessary in the first place. The transition from "ja_JP.EUC" to "ja" was a very painful one for the ports committers and our users. Is it really worth it? * If man/ja is replaced with man/ja_JP.EUC, new FreeBSD's man command * can find ja_JP.EUC manuals under man/ja_JP.EUC. But it cannot show * Japanese online manuals, because FreeBSD's groff command and more * command cannot handle Japanese text now. This replace do not have * merit now, so I personally think that we do not have to replace man/ja * with man/ja_JP.EUC now. I read that we can't use ".EUC" for the chinese version anyway since there are more than one EUC's over there. Does this string (".EUC" or whatever) actually mean anything, or is it there just to satisfy someone's sense of coherency? Do we ever plan to support ja_JP.jisx0208 and ja_JP.jisx0201 and others as well as ja_JP.EUC? Which man page are the commands going to display if the user sets LANG to "ja"? Why can't we just make a symlink from "ja_JP.EUC" to "ja"? I don't pretend to understand all the issues but this just looks like a change for the sake of the change. (Especially since you people started from ja_JP.EUC to begin with. :) Satoshi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue May 25 4:59:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C483715613; Tue, 25 May 1999 04:59:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from pb@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id EAA77958; Tue, 25 May 1999 04:59:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pb@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 04:59:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199905251159.EAA77958@freefall.freebsd.org> To: rse@engelschall.com, pb@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/11832: JUst a little typo into sigaltstack(2)... Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: JUst a little typo into sigaltstack(2)... State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: pb State-Changed-When: Tue May 25 04:59:01 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Fixed. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue May 25 7: 0:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from imap.ncsa.es (imap.ncsa.es [194.179.50.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E89E914F9B; Tue, 25 May 1999 07:00:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesusr@ncsa.es) Received: from ender.ncsa.es (ender.ncsa.es [194.179.50.15]) by imap.ncsa.es (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA80211; Tue, 25 May 1999 15:59:52 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <37442C25.F96EC747@nobreak.com> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 15:55:22 +0200 (CEST) Reply-To: jesusr@ncsa.es Organization: Nexus Comunicaciones, S.A. From: Jesus Rodriguez To: Seung-young Kim Subject: Re: freebsd.org domain Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG, nik@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 20-May-99 Seung-young Kim wrote: > Hi.. > > Hmm.. no more threads... all done? > I think it's not clearly defined yet. > Who is responsible for this? Hello... Sorry for delay but i've been moving to a new home... Well, this was core answer: > FreeBSD.org Use this one please. Thanks. - Jordan JesusR. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue May 25 7:17: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D0481576B; Tue, 25 May 1999 07:17:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hoek@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from hoek@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id HAA93101; Tue, 25 May 1999 07:17:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hoek@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 07:17:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199905251417.HAA93101@freefall.freebsd.org> To: jim@corp.au.triax.com, hoek@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/9837: fix to doc/handbook/porting.sgml Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: fix to doc/handbook/porting.sgml State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: hoek State-Changed-When: Tue May 25 07:15:18 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Have you ever tried `make package-name` on a port? It prints the package- name. :-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue May 25 7:30:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E6B815765; Tue, 25 May 1999 07:30:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hoek@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from hoek@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id HAA94492; Tue, 25 May 1999 07:30:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hoek@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 07:30:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199905251430.HAA94492@freefall.freebsd.org> To: takamune@avrl.mei.co.jp, hoek@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/9773: Handbook 4.7.1.4. "Testing the port" is incorrect. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Handbook 4.7.1.4. "Testing the port" is incorrect. State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: hoek State-Changed-When: Tue May 25 07:29:35 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Fixed, thanks! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue May 25 7:49: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A99C21578D; Tue, 25 May 1999 07:49:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hoek@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from hoek@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id HAA96433; Tue, 25 May 1999 07:49:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hoek@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 07:49:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199905251449.HAA96433@freefall.freebsd.org> To: hoek@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, hoek@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/9352: wrong macro names in groff_[ms|mm|mmse].7 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: wrong macro names in groff_[ms|mm|mmse].7 Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->hoek Responsible-Changed-By: hoek Responsible-Changed-When: Tue May 25 07:48:35 PDT 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: Appears to be related to docs/9618 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue May 25 7:57: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ns.nobreak.com (ns.nobreak.com [210.105.79.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D394415032; Tue, 25 May 1999 07:56:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nobreak@nobreak.com) Received: from nobreak.com (nobreak.nobreak.com [210.105.79.103]) by ns.nobreak.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA32705; Wed, 26 May 1999 00:03:17 +0900 Message-ID: <374ABA2B.7363C398@nobreak.com> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 23:56:43 +0900 From: Seung-young Kim Reply-To: nobreak@nobreak.com Organization: Nobreak Technologies, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jesusr@ncsa.es Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG, nik@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: freebsd.org domain References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-kr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Well, this was core answer: > > > FreeBSD.org > > Use this one please. Thanks. I see sir. Thank you for your response. -- o R&D/Senior researcher: Seung-young Kim o Tel: +82-42-864-4440/1 , Fax: +82-42-864-4442 o Personal home: http://nobreak.nobreak.ne.kr _________________________________________________ Nobreak Technologies, Inc. http://www.nobreak.com The Power to Serve, Rock-stable FreeBSD! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue May 25 8:16:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from dpx20.tu-varna.acad.bg (unknown [194.12.234.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E75DB150A1 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 08:16:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@koral.bg) Received: from www.bgzone.com (ns.bgzone.com [194.12.235.81]) by dpx20.tu-varna.acad.bg (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA41498 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 18:15:09 +0300 Received: from www.koral.bg (koral [194.12.235.94]) by www.bgzone.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA03637 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 17:15:14 +0300 (EEST) Received: from koral.bg (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.koral.bg (8.9.2/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA00898 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 18:15:11 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <374ABE7F.98C96907@koral.bg> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 18:15:11 +0300 From: Dimitar Peikov Organization: KORAL Multimedia Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Question X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've noticed that you haven't Bulgarian translation of documentation and/or manuals. Did someone make some posibilities to do this? If no how can I began to translate documentation into Bulgarian language? And if I make some translations did they be used or this should be only for my pleasure. One question about translation WEB site to Bulgarian. To whom I must contact for that? Thanks for the great job on this nice OS. I use it more than year and found that it likes me much than other OS-es. Best regards. -- Dimitar Peikov KORAL Multimedia Ltd. Varna - Bulgaria http://www.koral.bg/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue May 25 8:56:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 725CA152C9; Tue, 25 May 1999 08:56:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hoek@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from hoek@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id IAA05526; Tue, 25 May 1999 08:56:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hoek@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 08:56:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199905251556.IAA05526@freefall.freebsd.org> To: ap@noses.com, hoek@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/8640: proposed change of 4.5 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: proposed change of 4.5 State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: hoek State-Changed-When: Tue May 25 08:55:37 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Fixed, thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue May 25 9:22:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93C7D15091; Tue, 25 May 1999 09:22:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hoek@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from hoek@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id JAA08805; Tue, 25 May 1999 09:22:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hoek@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 09:22:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199905251622.JAA08805@freefall.freebsd.org> To: wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org, hoek@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/11595: The gencommercial.pl script ignores the last entry Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: The gencommercial.pl script ignores the last entry State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: hoek State-Changed-When: Tue May 25 09:20:43 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: I'm not sure it was really necessary to file a pr for a problem with such an easy work-around. The dummy entries are gone now. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue May 25 10: 6: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E1BA15825; Tue, 25 May 1999 10:05:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hoek@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from hoek@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id KAA13236; Tue, 25 May 1999 10:05:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hoek@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 10:05:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199905251705.KAA13236@freefall.freebsd.org> To: dima@Chg.RU, hoek@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/10388: Obsolete information in Handbook Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Obsolete information in Handbook State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: hoek State-Changed-When: Tue May 25 10:05:33 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Fixed, thanks! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue May 25 10:35:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2A7114F35; Tue, 25 May 1999 10:35:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hoek@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from hoek@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id KAA15899; Tue, 25 May 1999 10:35:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hoek@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 10:35:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199905251735.KAA15899@freefall.freebsd.org> To: masaru@pokemon.to, hoek@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/10500: spell error Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: spell error State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: hoek State-Changed-When: Tue May 25 10:34:07 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Fixed, thanks! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue May 25 14:40: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from vdnh.relline.ru (unknown [195.146.72.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC38C15AE7 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 14:39:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from orvopr@vdnh.relline.ru) Received: from Vova.redhouse.luchshe.net ([192.168.100.2]) by vdnh.relline.ru (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA11807 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 01:37:50 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from orvopr@vdnh.relline.ru) Message-Id: <199905252137.BAA11807@vdnh.relline.ru> From: "Vova" To: Subject: Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 01:48:01 +0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ïÇÒÏÍÎÏÅ ËÏÌÉÞÅÓÔ×Ï ÐÒÉÌÏÖÅÎÉÊ??? á ×ÏÔ IP Accounting ÎÅÔÕ. ôÏÌØËÏ ÄÌÑ ÌÉÎÕËÓÁ, ×ÏÔ É ×ÙÂÉÒÁÊ,- ÔÒÁÆÆÉË, ÔÏ ÓÞÉÔÁÔØ ÐÒÉÈÏÄÉÔÓÑ. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue May 25 16:54: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from scrabble.freeuk.net (scrabble.freeuk.net [212.126.144.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7980A15483 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 16:53:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrew@cream.org) Received: from [212.126.147.196] (helo=cream.org) by scrabble.freeuk.net with esmtp (Exim 2.11 #1) id 10mR1A-0004op-00 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Tue, 25 May 1999 23:53:57 +0000 Message-ID: <374B377D.969335EE@cream.org> Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 00:51:25 +0100 From: Andrew Boothman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Doc Mailing List Subject: Willing Volunteer Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi! I'm new to the documentation project, and I was wondering what I can do to help. I stopped following the mailing list when we were trying to change to DocBook because I had to sit some major exams. So what are the current ongoing jobs that need some more work? Many thanks -- Andrew Boothman http://sour.cream.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed May 26 0: 8: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from sc.soficom.com.eg (sc.soficom.com.eg [163.121.163.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B57FC1503C for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 00:07:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msamei@soficom.com.eg) Received: from soficom.com.eg ([163.121.163.20]) by sc.soficom.com.eg (8.8.5/8.8.4/CNS-4.1) with ESMTP id JAA00539 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 09:48:53 +0300 (EET DST) Message-ID: <374B9E0C.8E9F65D8@soficom.com.eg> Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 10:09:00 +0300 From: Mohamed Abd El-Samei Reply-To: msamei@soficom.com.eg Organization: Soficom X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Boot And Root Disks Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Sir , If You Please I would like TO know How To Build The Boot And Root Disks That I need to Start Installation Of FreBsd . Please Tell me what files i need to get from the ftp site . Thanks Allot . Mohammed To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed May 26 0:24: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ccssu.crimea.ua (mordor.ccssu.crimea.ua [62.244.13.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF480154B3 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 00:23:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ph@scorpion.crimea.ua) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ccssu.crimea.ua (8.9.0/8.9.0) with UUCP id KAA08063; Wed, 26 May 1999 10:12:38 +0400 Received: (from ph@localhost) by scorpion.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.5+ssl+keepalive) id JAA00663; Wed, 26 May 1999 09:21:58 +0400 (MSD) Message-Id: <199905260521.JAA00663@scorpion.crimea.ua> Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: <199905252137.BAA11807@vdnh.relline.ru> from Vova at "May 26, 99 01:48:01 am" To: orvopr@vdnh.relline.ru (Vova) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 09:21:58 +0400 (MSD) Cc: doc@freebsd.org From: "Alexey M. Zelkin" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ðÒÉ×ÅÔ ! > ïÇÒÏÍÎÏÅ ËÏÌÉÞÅÓÔ×Ï ÐÒÉÌÏÖÅÎÉÊ??? > á ×ÏÔ IP Accounting ÎÅÔÕ. ôÏÌØËÏ ÄÌÑ ÌÉÎÕËÓÁ, ×ÏÔ É ×ÙÂÉÒÁÊ,- > ÔÒÁÆÆÉË, ÔÏ ÓÞÉÔÁÔØ ÐÒÉÈÏÄÉÔÓÑ. -doc ÔÕÔ ÐÒÉ ÞÅÍ ? ðÏ ÜÔÏÍÕ ÐÏ×ÏÄÕ fido7.ru.unix.bsd -- Sincerely Yours, Alexey Zelkin mailto:phantom@sunbay.com, ICQ: #6196584 Sunbay Software, Ltd. http://www.sunbay.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed May 26 6:50:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 538) id D0D31153B4; Wed, 26 May 1999 06:50:09 -0700 (PDT) To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org From: Majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Welcome to freebsd-doc Reply-To: Majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG Message-Id: <19990526135009.D0D31153B4@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 06:50:09 -0700 (PDT) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -- Welcome to the freebsd-doc mailing list! Please save this message for future reference. Thank you. If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, you can send mail to with the following command in the body of your email message: unsubscribe freebsd-doc or from another account, besides freebsd-doc@freebsd.org: unsubscribe freebsd-doc freebsd-doc@freebsd.org If you ever need to get in contact with the owner of the list, (if you have trouble unsubscribing, or have questions about the list itself) send email to . This is the general rule for most mailing lists when you need to contact a human. Here's the general information for the list you've subscribed to, in case you don't already have it: FREEBSD-DOC Documentation project This mailing list belongs to the FreeBSD Doc Project To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed May 26 8:57:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.yk.rim.or.jp (mail.yk.rim.or.jp [202.247.130.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F70B14D4B; Wed, 26 May 1999 08:57:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from k-horik@yk.rim.or.jp) Received: from localhost (ppp934.yk.rim.or.jp [202.247.185.185]) by mail.yk.rim.or.jp (8.8.8/3.6W-RIMNET-98-06-09) with ESMTP id AAA15980; Thu, 27 May 1999 00:56:34 +0900 (JST) To: asami@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: ache@nagual.pp.ru, nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk, ru-freebsd-doc@freebsd.ru, doc@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-translate@ngo.org.uk From: horikawa@jp.freebsd.org Subject: Re: Replace man/ja with man/ja_JP.EUC (FDP Directory Reorganization) In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 25 May 1999 04:05:12 -0700 (PDT)" <199905251105.EAA67875@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> References: <199905251105.EAA67875@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.93 on Emacs 19.34 / Mule 2.3 (SUETSUMUHANA) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19990527005555K.k-horik@yk.rim.or.jp> Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 00:55:55 +0900 X-Dispatcher: imput version 980905(IM100) Lines: 103 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I think that just making symlinks from /usr/share/man/ja_JP.EUC to /usr/share/man/ja, from /usr/local/man/ja_JP.EUC to /usr/local/man/ja, and etc. may be good solution. From: asami@FreeBSD.ORG (Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami) Subject: Re: Replace man/ja with man/ja_JP.EUC (FDP Directory Reorganization) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 04:05:12 -0700 (PDT) > I'm still not convinced why this is necessary in the first place. The > transition from "ja_JP.EUC" to "ja" was a very painful one for the > ports committers and our users. Is it really worth it? My understanding is that, a directory name, which contains "encoding", represents encoding of files which are placed under the directory. For example: (a) /usr/share/man/ja/ represents that this directory contains Japanese manuals. But we cannot distinguish "encoding", because the name "ja" does not contain encoding. (b) /usr/share/man/ja_JP.EUC/ represents that this directory contains Japanese manuals in EUC "encoding". I guess that most people do not read /usr/share/man/* directly. They do not take care of encoding of /usr/share/man/*. Few people who are not satisfied with "man -k" may grep files under /usr/share/man/* directly. They may take care of encoding of /usr/share/man/*. So, I think that the merit is relatively low. > * If man/ja is replaced with man/ja_JP.EUC, new FreeBSD's man command > * can find ja_JP.EUC manuals under man/ja_JP.EUC. But it cannot show > * Japanese online manuals, because FreeBSD's groff command and more > * command cannot handle Japanese text now. This replace do not have > * merit now, so I personally think that we do not have to replace man/ja > * with man/ja_JP.EUC now. > > I read that we can't use ".EUC" for the chinese version anyway since > there are more than one EUC's over there. Sorry, I cannot understand the meanings of this sentence in your entire article. I guess that you mention about doc/zh_{BIG5,GB}. If so, I believe that /usr/share/man/ja/ and doc/zh_{BIG5,GB} are independent topics. > Does this string (".EUC" or whatever) actually mean anything, or is it > there just to satisfy someone's sense of coherency? This string (".EUC" or whatever) represents "encoding". > Do we ever plan > to support ja_JP.jisx0208 and ja_JP.jisx0201 and others as well as > ja_JP.EUC? I assume that the topic is supporting manual pages in JIS encoding (ISO-2022-JP encoding) or other encodings. To support manual pages in JIS encoding or other encodings, we need [nt]roff which support the encoding directly or indirectly: o we need [nt]roff which support the encoding directly, or o we must make a wrapper for [nt]roff to convert encoding. I have not heard that groff supports any Japanese encodings other than Japanese EUC. Making wrapper may be easier, but it needs someone's time. BTW, some Japanese manuals in JIS encoding are distributed by original authors. One example is kterm.1 (ports/japanese/kterm; Japanized xterm). In ports/japanese/kterm, Makefile's post-install target converts kterm.jman from JIS encoding to Japanese EUC encoding. I believe this is most simple solution (for Japnese FreeBSD users), because we have only /usr/X11R6/man/ja/ directory under /usr/X11R6/man/. If ports/japanese/kterm do not convert to EUC encoding: o /usr/X11R6/man/ja/man1/kterm.1 is encoded in JIS encoding while other manuals in that directory are encoded in Japanese EUC encoding. We may live a life under this situation using wapper for [nt]roff, but the situation that JIS encoded manuals and Japanese EUC encoded manuals are placed in single directory is complicated. o kterm.1 is installed in /usr/X11R6/man/ja_JP.JIS/man1/ while other manuals are installed in /usr/X11R6/man/ja/man1/ (or /usr/X11R6/man/ja_JP.EUC/man1/). To make "man" command to show kterm.1 may be puzzle. > Which man page are the commands going to display if the > user sets LANG to "ja"? Currently, English manuals will be displayed, because FreeBSD has "ja_JP.EUC" locale and "ja_JP.SJIS" locale, but do not have "ja" locale. The reason why jman command displays English is that the jman command uses setlocale() to get "valid" locale name. And jman command thinks that "ja" is invalid locale name. Some operating systems have "ja" locale which is alias to "ja_JP.EUC" or "ja_JP.eucJP". And X11 which is compiled with -DX_LOCALE has "ja" locale which is alias to "ja_JP.eucJP" (see /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/locale.alias). I do not know whether this is a good idea or a bad idea. I guess that it may be for backward compatibility. > Why can't we just make a symlink from "ja_JP.EUC" to "ja"? I think that it may be good solution, because: o Symlink's name "ja_JP.EUC" represents that /usr/share/man/ja/ contains Japanese manuals in EUC "encoding" (same as (b)). o ports maintainers/commiters do not have to rewrite Japanese manuals destinations. > I don't pretend to understand all the issues but this just looks like > a change for the sake of the change. (Especially since you people > started from ja_JP.EUC to begin with. :) -- Kazuo Horikawa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed May 26 12: 1:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from alice.gba.oz.au (gba-254.tmx.com.au [203.9.155.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 91C5515521 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 12:01:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gjb@acm.org) Received: (qmail 12842 invoked by uid 1001); 26 May 1999 01:34:16 -0000 Message-ID: <19990526013416.12841.qmail@alice.gba.oz.au> X-Posted-By: GBA-Post 1.03 20-Sep-1998 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 5A91 6942 8CEA 9DAB B95B C249 1CE1 493B 2B5A CE30 Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 11:34:15 +1000 From: Greg Black To: Nik Clayton Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-translate@ngo.org.uk Subject: Re: FDP Directory Reorganisation References: <19990513211458.B70767@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <19990519214022.D60921@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <19990520095342.18541.qmail@alice.gba.oz.au> <19990520232510.A54603@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <19990523023158.105.qmail@alice.gba.oz.au> <19990524100236.V12185@lehman.com> In-reply-to: <19990524100236.V12185@lehman.com> of Mon, 24 May 1999 10:02:36 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > [Re "articles" and "books":] > > If the > > object of the documentation is to provide help to the users of > > the documentation, then the organisation needs to based on > > distinctions that make sense to those users. > > Disagree. Here's why. > > The organisation *within the repository* is (or should be) of zero > interest to the end user of the documentation. There's no reason why the > directory hierarchy within the repository, and the directory hierarchy of > the installed documentation should map to each other one to one. > > [...] > > For example, something that lives in the books/printing directory might > have > > CATEGORIES= books sysadmin printing mswindows > > in the Makefile, indicating that the formatted documentation should be > installed in to /usr/local/share/doc/FDP/{books,sysadmin,printing,mswindows} > directories because > > 1. It's a "book" > 2. Printing is a "Sys Admin" topic. > 3. Printing is deemed to be important enough to have it's own top level > category as well. > 4. It explains how Windows hosts can print to printers attached to > FreeBSD boxes. > > This gives the end-user much more freedom when it comes to finding the > documentation they need. I have no problem with this -- but it was not spelled out in the proposal that I was commenting on, hence my repeated attempts to have the problem that I saw addressed. I am quite happy to see semantic distinctions internal to the documents determining their location in the source (where they are accessed by the documentation maintainers), so long as the organisation that is visible to users allows them to find things by criteria that make sense to those users. Your latest answer indicates that this will be done. Thanks. -- Greg Black -- or To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed May 26 12: 5:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DB5A15521; Wed, 26 May 1999 12:04:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) id AAA67970; Wed, 26 May 1999 00:08:21 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 00:08:21 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami Cc: horikawa@jp.freebsd.org, ache@nagual.pp.ru, nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk, ru-freebsd-doc@freebsd.ru, doc@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-translate@ngo.org.uk Subject: Re: Replace man/ja with man/ja_JP.EUC (FDP Directory Reorganization) Message-ID: <19990526000821.A66841@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19990516183643.A15766@nagual.pp.ru> <19990517160148W.horikawa@ebina.hitachi.co.jp> <199905251105.EAA67875@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <199905251105.EAA67875@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu>; from Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami on Tue, May 25, 1999 at 04:05:12AM -0700 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, May 25, 1999 at 04:05:12AM -0700, Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami wrote: > * I understand that we need not have more than one subdirectory under > * man/ to store Japanese online manuals. > * > * I think that replacing /usr/share/man/ja with /usr/share/man/ja_JP.EUC > * could be done easily (by modification of doc/ja/man/Makefile.inc and > * src/etc/mtree/BSD.usr.dist). But, replacing /usr/local/man/ja with > * /usr/local/man/ja_JP.EUC may not be easy, because this replace forces > * ports' maintainers to rewrite manpage destinations (all pkg/PLIST > * which contains man/ja should be modified). Mr. Asami, is this change > * acceptable for ports team? > > I'm still not convinced why this is necessary in the first place. The > transition from "ja_JP.EUC" to "ja" was a very painful one for the > ports committers and our users. Is it really worth it? Possibly. The reason this has come up is that I want to use directory names like this in the doc/ CVS repository. I wasn't originally thinking of replicating these names amongst the installed docs, but it might not be a bad thing. Points in favour; 1. The installation directory names and the repository directory names will be identical, making it easier to identify what came from where. 2. The directory names should be the same as the $LC_ALL for users using a language other than English. 3. Some languages will need multiple encodings -- Chinese, for example. If some languages need it, you may as well do it for all of them, for the sake of consistency. Points against; 1. It's more work. > * If man/ja is replaced with man/ja_JP.EUC, new FreeBSD's man command > * can find ja_JP.EUC manuals under man/ja_JP.EUC. But it cannot show > * Japanese online manuals, because FreeBSD's groff command and more > * command cannot handle Japanese text now. This replace do not have > * merit now, so I personally think that we do not have to replace man/ja > * with man/ja_JP.EUC now. > > I read that we can't use ".EUC" for the chinese version anyway since > there are more than one EUC's over there. The options for Chinese seem to be zh_CN.EUC and zh_TW.BIG5 (see /usr/share/locale/* on your system). > Does this string (".EUC" or whatever) actually mean anything, or is it > there just to satisfy someone's sense of coherency? It's the encoding type. As shown above, some languages have different encoding types. > Do we ever plan > to support ja_JP.jisx0208 and ja_JP.jisx0201 and others as well as > ja_JP.EUC? Eventually, yes. 'n' years down the line we'll probably switch to Unicode (I don't know how big 'n' is in this case). Explicitly specifying the encoding now saves us pain in the future. And see above for languages that we will be using now that have different encodings. Japenese is somewhat fortunate in that you can do a mechanical translation between the .EIC and .SJIS encodings and not lose anything. Apparently you can't do that with Chinese, and there might be other encodings where that is the case as well. > Which man page are the commands going to display if the > user sets LANG to "ja"? Why can't we just make a symlink from > "ja_JP.EUC" to "ja"? IMHO, when the user does "make install" it should inspect the value of the $LC_ALL (or $LANG, or whatever) to determine which specific directory the install should be in. login.conf should be used to set the user's default, and the SA should be free to make a symlink in that directory to a shorter name as necessary to set another default. But the files should be installed into a directory that completely specifies the locale name. > I don't pretend to understand all the issues but this just looks like > a change for the sake of the change. (Especially since you people > started from ja_JP.EUC to begin with. :) I wasn't around when that happened :-) N -- There's some milk in the fridge about to go off. . . and there it goes. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed May 26 12:17:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B35615755 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 12:17:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) id UAA16331; Wed, 26 May 1999 20:16:54 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 20:16:54 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Greg Black Cc: Nik Clayton , doc@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-translate@ngo.org.uk Subject: Re: FDP Directory Reorganisation Message-ID: <19990526201654.A15976@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19990513211458.B70767@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <19990519214022.D60921@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <19990520095342.18541.qmail@alice.gba.oz.au> <19990520232510.A54603@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <19990523023158.105.qmail@alice.gba.oz.au> <19990524100236.V12185@lehman.com> <19990526013416.12841.qmail@alice.gba.oz.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990526013416.12841.qmail@alice.gba.oz.au>; from Greg Black on Wed, May 26, 1999 at 11:34:15AM +1000 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, May 26, 1999 at 11:34:15AM +1000, Greg Black wrote: [...] > > 1. It's a "book" > > 2. Printing is a "Sys Admin" topic. > > 3. Printing is deemed to be important enough to have it's own top level > > category as well. > > 4. It explains how Windows hosts can print to printers attached to > > FreeBSD boxes. > > > > This gives the end-user much more freedom when it comes to finding the > > documentation they need. > > I have no problem with this -- but it was not spelled out in the > proposal that I was commenting on, hence my repeated attempts to > have the problem that I saw addressed. S'cool. My fault for not being clear enough in the proposal. I'm actually not that fussed about how the documents are installed for the user, as long as it can be made flexible, and there are no artificial constraints imposed by the repository structure. > I am quite happy to see semantic distinctions internal to the > documents determining their location in the source (where they > are accessed by the documentation maintainers), so long as the > organisation that is visible to users allows them to find things > by criteria that make sense to those users. Your latest answer > indicates that this will be done. Thanks. Great. With a bit luck this'll get done this weekend. N -- There's some milk in the fridge about to go off. . . and there it goes. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed May 26 17:22:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E433152BC; Wed, 26 May 1999 17:22:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id JAA12932; Thu, 27 May 1999 09:52:41 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) id JAA05146; Thu, 27 May 1999 09:52:41 +0930 (CST) Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 09:52:41 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Welcome to freebsd-doc Message-ID: <19990527095240.C941@freebie.lemis.com> References: <19990526135009.D0D31153B4@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990526135009.D0D31153B4@hub.freebsd.org>; from Majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG on Wed, May 26, 1999 at 06:50:09AM -0700 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Is somebody trying to set up a recursive delivery? Greg On Wednesday, 26 May 1999 at 6:50:09 -0700, Majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG wrote: > -- > > Welcome to the freebsd-doc mailing list! > > Please save this message for future reference. 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Revs 1.8 (current) and 1.6.22 (stable) sbin/mount_cd9660/mount_cd9660.8. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu May 27 19: 0:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA489151A5; Thu, 27 May 1999 19:00:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ghelmer@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from ghelmer@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id TAA74291; Thu, 27 May 1999 19:00:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ghelmer@FreeBSD.org) Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 19:00:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199905280200.TAA74291@freefall.freebsd.org> To: asmodai@wxs.nl, ghelmer@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/10108: Addition to fstab.5 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Addition to fstab.5 State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: ghelmer State-Changed-When: Thu May 27 18:57:53 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Modified the fstab.5 man page to include a hint towards all filesystem options. Hopefully this satisfies the change request. The change is quite general and avoids mentioning any particular filesystem-specific options. See Rev 1.10 (current) of src/share/man/man5/fstab.5. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu May 27 19: 5: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0038114D64; Thu, 27 May 1999 19:05:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ghelmer@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from ghelmer@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id TAA74901; Thu, 27 May 1999 19:05:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ghelmer@FreeBSD.org) Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 19:05:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199905280205.TAA74901@freefall.freebsd.org> To: wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org, ghelmer@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/10256: handbook on cvsup... Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: handbook on cvsup... State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: ghelmer State-Changed-When: Thu May 27 19:04:33 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: This section of the handbook does mention the RELENG_3_1_0_RELEASE tag now (however, it doesn't mention the RELENG_3_2_0_RELEASE tag yet). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu May 27 19:13:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F85014CAC; Thu, 27 May 1999 19:13:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ghelmer@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from ghelmer@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id TAA75881; Thu, 27 May 1999 19:13:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ghelmer@FreeBSD.org) Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 19:13:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199905280213.TAA75881@freefall.freebsd.org> To: leif@neland.dk, ghelmer@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/10378: option -s missing in lptcontrol.8 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: option -s missing in lptcontrol.8 State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: ghelmer State-Changed-When: Thu May 27 19:12:32 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Fix committed, thanks! Revs 1.9 (current) and 1.7.2.2 (stable) of src/usr.sbin/lptcontrol/lptcontrol.8 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri May 28 1:13:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from dpx20.tu-varna.acad.bg (unknown [194.12.234.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15F0914E85 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 01:13:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@www.koral.bg) Received: from www.bgzone.com (ns.bgzone.com [194.12.235.81]) by dpx20.tu-varna.acad.bg (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA34822 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 11:12:25 +0300 Received: from www.koral.bg (koral [194.12.235.94]) by www.bgzone.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA04452 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 10:12:38 +0300 (EEST) Received: from www (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.koral.bg (8.9.2/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA06815 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 11:12:36 +0300 (EEST) Message-Id: <199905280812.LAA06815@www.koral.bg> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Translation WEB into Bulgaria Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 11:12:36 +0300 From: Charlie Root Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I began to translate WEB pages into Bulgarian. Did it help someone are interested on it? Dimitar Peikov -------------- http://www.koral.bg/ mitko@koral.bg http://www.bgzone.com/ mitko@bgzone.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri May 28 6:28:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from obsidian.noc.dfn.de (obsidian.noc.dfn.de [193.174.247.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B749514CAC for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 06:28:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from schweikh@obsidian.noc.dfn.de) Received: (from schweikh@localhost) by obsidian.noc.dfn.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA25478 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 28 May 1999 15:27:54 +0200 (MET DST) From: Jens Schweikhardt Message-Id: <199905281327.PAA25478@obsidian.noc.dfn.de> Subject: suspected typo in handbook To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 15:27:53 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear Handbook Editor, In there is the following itemization: slakware/a2/ldso.tgz slakware/a2/shlibs.tgz slakware/x6/oldlibs/tgz <- shouldn't the last slash be a dot? slakware/x9/xf_lib.tgz I havn't looked at the slakware dist, but it really looks like a typo. Regards, Jens -- Jens Schweikhardt http://www.shuttle.de/schweikh/ SIGSIG -- signature too long (core dumped) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri May 28 7: 8:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp13.bellglobal.com (smtp13.bellglobal.com [204.101.251.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E49615B70 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 07:08:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vanderh@ecf.toronto.edu) Received: from ppp18350.on.bellglobal.com (ppp18352.on.bellglobal.com [206.172.130.32]) by smtp13.bellglobal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA24861; Fri, 28 May 1999 10:09:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from tim@localhost) by ppp18350.on.bellglobal.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id KAA58806; Fri, 28 May 1999 10:08:16 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from tim) Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 10:08:16 -0400 From: Tim Vanderhoek To: Jens Schweikhardt Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: suspected typo in handbook Message-ID: <19990528100815.A58662@ppp18350.on.bellglobal.com> References: <199905281327.PAA25478@obsidian.noc.dfn.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: <199905281327.PAA25478@obsidian.noc.dfn.de>; from Jens Schweikhardt on Fri, May 28, 1999 at 03:27:53PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, May 28, 1999 at 03:27:53PM +0200, Jens Schweikhardt wrote: > > slakware/x6/oldlibs/tgz <- shouldn't the last slash be a dot? > > slakware/x9/xf_lib.tgz > > I havn't looked at the slakware dist, but it really looks like a typo. Well, I haven't looked at the slakware dist, either, but I'm willing to bet it's a typo. :-) Fixed, thanks. Give the change time to hit the mirrors. -- This is my .signature which gets appended to the end of my messages. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri May 28 13:24:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from frmug.org (frmug-gw.frmug.org [193.56.58.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E3B815113 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 13:24:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roberto@keltia.freenix.fr) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by frmug.org (8.9.1/frmug-2.3/nospam) with UUCP id WAA28070 for doc@freebsd.org; Fri, 28 May 1999 22:24:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from roberto@keltia.freenix.fr) Received: by keltia.freenix.fr (Postfix, from userid 101) id 055EC87AE; Fri, 28 May 1999 22:02:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from roberto) Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 22:02:37 +0200 From: Ollivier Robert To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: At&T-style ASM Tutorial? Message-ID: <19990528220237.A96009@keltia.freenix.fr> Mail-Followup-To: doc@freebsd.org References: <37441616.F133AAB0@chaosphere.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.95.5i In-Reply-To: <37441616.F133AAB0@chaosphere.com>; from Jeff Clough on Thu, May 20, 1999 at 10:03:02AM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT/ELF ctm#5322 AMD-K6 MMX @ 200 MHz Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org According to Jeff Clough: > - There are no tutorials for learning assembly using the AT&T syntax There is (or used to be). I'm not able to find it any more but I used to have one full manual for the AT&T assembler. Sadly I deleted it. -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! -=- roberto@keltia.freenix.fr FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 4.0-CURRENT #71: Sun May 9 20:16:32 CEST 1999 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri May 28 16:46: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14625153A0; Fri, 28 May 1999 16:46:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id QAA83152; Fri, 28 May 1999 16:46:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 16:46:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199905282346.QAA83152@freefall.freebsd.org> To: nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, kris@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/11856: references to vadvise(2) should probably be madvise(2) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: references to vadvise(2) should probably be madvise(2) Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->kris Responsible-Changed-By: nik Responsible-Changed-When: Fri May 28 16:44:22 PDT 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: Kris was the last person to edit this manual page. Re this PR. It's probably right. In addition, the manual page also refs VA_ANOM and VA_SEQL. A check through madvise(2) shows that MADV_SEQUENTIAL is probably one correct replacement, but I don't know what the MADV_* equivalent for VA_ANOM is. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri May 28 16:47: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AFD314D68; Fri, 28 May 1999 16:47:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id QAA83245; Fri, 28 May 1999 16:47:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 16:47:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199905282347.QAA83245@freefall.freebsd.org> To: nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, jkh@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/11852: 3.X install requires 12MB of RAM, not 8 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: 3.X install requires 12MB of RAM, not 8 Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->jkh Responsible-Changed-By: nik Responsible-Changed-When: Fri May 28 16:46:15 PDT 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: Installs are Jordan's area. I don't recall seeing the install requirements goup, but if he says that they have then this can be re-assign to freebsd-doc to be documented. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri May 28 16:47:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ACD714C2D; Fri, 28 May 1999 16:47:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id QAA83324; Fri, 28 May 1999 16:47:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 16:47:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199905282347.QAA83324@freefall.freebsd.org> To: nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, nik@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/11849: [Patch] doc/en/handbook/kerneldebug/chapter.sgml is out of date Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: [Patch] doc/en/handbook/kerneldebug/chapter.sgml is out of date Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->nik Responsible-Changed-By: nik Responsible-Changed-When: Fri May 28 16:47:12 PDT 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: Got it. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri May 28 16:48:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BE1C14D28; Fri, 28 May 1999 16:48:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id QAA83464; Fri, 28 May 1999 16:48:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 16:48:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199905282348.QAA83464@freefall.freebsd.org> To: nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, nik@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/11777: Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/network.sgml Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/network.sgml Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->nik Responsible-Changed-By: nik Responsible-Changed-When: Fri May 28 16:47:54 PDT 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: Will do. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri May 28 16:49:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E76F15023; Fri, 28 May 1999 16:49:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id QAA83542; Fri, 28 May 1999 16:49:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 16:49:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199905282349.QAA83542@freefall.freebsd.org> To: nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, kris@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/11774: fixups for man page for vmstat(8) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: fixups for man page for vmstat(8) Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->kris Responsible-Changed-By: nik Responsible-Changed-When: Fri May 28 16:48:28 PDT 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: Kris last person to touch this page, can either fix, or re-assign to more suitable person. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri May 28 16:50:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA43814CA0; Fri, 28 May 1999 16:50:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id QAA83663; Fri, 28 May 1999 16:50:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 16:50:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199905282350.QAA83663@freefall.freebsd.org> To: fullermd@over-yonder.net, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/11709: swapon(8) references strange devices Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: swapon(8) references strange devices State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Fri May 28 16:49:48 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Fixed in swapon.8:1.11 by jkoshy, but the PR wasn't closed. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri May 28 16:51:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 750C514CA0; Fri, 28 May 1999 16:51:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id QAA83738; Fri, 28 May 1999 16:51:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 16:51:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199905282351.QAA83738@freefall.freebsd.org> To: nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, nik@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/11695: [Patch] src/share/man/man7/hier.7 is out of date Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: [Patch] src/share/man/man7/hier.7 is out of date Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->nik Responsible-Changed-By: nik Responsible-Changed-When: Fri May 28 16:51:01 PDT 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: Got it. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri May 28 16:51:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E04114DE5; Fri, 28 May 1999 16:51:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id QAA83806; Fri, 28 May 1999 16:51:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 16:51:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199905282351.QAA83806@freefall.freebsd.org> To: nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, nik@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/11645: The dir(5) manpage does not mention the unportability of d_type (fix included) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: The dir(5) manpage does not mention the unportability of d_type (fix included) Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->nik Responsible-Changed-By: nik Responsible-Changed-When: Fri May 28 16:51:26 PDT 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: Mine. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri May 28 16:52:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9308115A38; Fri, 28 May 1999 16:52:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id QAA83886; Fri, 28 May 1999 16:52:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 16:52:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199905282352.QAA83886@freefall.freebsd.org> To: nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, nik@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/11596: namei(9) says inode, not vnode Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: namei(9) says inode, not vnode Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->nik Responsible-Changed-By: nik Responsible-Changed-When: Fri May 28 16:51:53 PDT 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: Mine. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri May 28 16:53: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C7F214CA0; Fri, 28 May 1999 16:53:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id QAA83966; Fri, 28 May 1999 16:53:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 16:53:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199905282353.QAA83966@freefall.freebsd.org> To: nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, nik@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/11589: Missing #includes in aio_read(2) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Missing #includes in aio_read(2) Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->nik Responsible-Changed-By: nik Responsible-Changed-When: Fri May 28 16:52:39 PDT 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: Got it. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri May 28 16:53:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2DC914CA0; Fri, 28 May 1999 16:53:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id QAA84043; Fri, 28 May 1999 16:53:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 16:53:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199905282353.QAA84043@freefall.freebsd.org> To: nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, nik@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/11561: a typo in dhclient.conf.5 man-pages Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: a typo in dhclient.conf.5 man-pages Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->nik Responsible-Changed-By: nik Responsible-Changed-When: Fri May 28 16:53:10 PDT 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: All mine. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri May 28 16:53:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C4121535B; Fri, 28 May 1999 16:53:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id QAA84124; Fri, 28 May 1999 16:53:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 16:53:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199905282353.QAA84124@freefall.freebsd.org> To: nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, nik@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/11506: some typos in dhclient.conf.5 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: some typos in dhclient.conf.5 Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->nik Responsible-Changed-By: nik Responsible-Changed-When: Fri May 28 16:53:32 PDT 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: Mine. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri May 28 16:54:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B50F415A38; Fri, 28 May 1999 16:54:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id QAA84235; Fri, 28 May 1999 16:54:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 16:54:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199905282354.QAA84235@freefall.freebsd.org> To: nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, nik@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/11028: new text for FAQ to explain branches Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: new text for FAQ to explain branches Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->nik Responsible-Changed-By: nik Responsible-Changed-When: Fri May 28 16:54:12 PDT 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: Grabbed it. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri May 28 16:55: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFA3514CA0; Fri, 28 May 1999 16:54:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id QAA84311; Fri, 28 May 1999 16:54:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 16:54:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199905282354.QAA84311@freefall.freebsd.org> To: nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, nik@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/10847: lpbb.4's PostScript output format is broken. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: lpbb.4's PostScript output format is broken. Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->nik Responsible-Changed-By: nik Responsible-Changed-When: Fri May 28 16:54:41 PDT 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: Will do. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri May 28 16:55:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95ADA14CA0; Fri, 28 May 1999 16:55:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id QAA84413; Fri, 28 May 1999 16:55:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 16:55:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199905282355.QAA84413@freefall.freebsd.org> To: nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, jkh@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/10840: [PATCH] Add pcic double-loading bug fix to ERRATA.TXT Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: [PATCH] Add pcic double-loading bug fix to ERRATA.TXT Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->jkh Responsible-Changed-By: nik Responsible-Changed-When: Fri May 28 16:55:07 PDT 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: *.TXT files generally Jordan's responsibility. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri May 28 16:56:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25B7114CA0; Fri, 28 May 1999 16:56:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id QAA84503; Fri, 28 May 1999 16:56:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 16:56:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199905282356.QAA84503@freefall.freebsd.org> To: nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, nik@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/10819: Documentation add Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Documentation add Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->nik Responsible-Changed-By: nik Responsible-Changed-When: Fri May 28 16:55:55 PDT 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: Will do. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri May 28 16:56:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 760A214CA0; Fri, 28 May 1999 16:56:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id QAA84584; Fri, 28 May 1999 16:56:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 16:56:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199905282356.QAA84584@freefall.freebsd.org> To: nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, nik@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/10704: strange sentence in doc/handbook/ctm.sgml Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: strange sentence in doc/handbook/ctm.sgml Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->nik Responsible-Changed-By: nik Responsible-Changed-When: Fri May 28 16:56:22 PDT 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: Grabbed it. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri May 28 16:57:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2469C14CA0; Fri, 28 May 1999 16:57:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id QAA84682; Fri, 28 May 1999 16:57:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 16:57:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199905282357.QAA84682@freefall.freebsd.org> To: nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, nik@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/10624: typos/innacuracies in wfd(4) man page Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: typos/innacuracies in wfd(4) man page Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->nik Responsible-Changed-By: nik Responsible-Changed-When: Fri May 28 16:56:59 PDT 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: Will fix ASAP. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri May 28 16:57:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ADAE14C10; Fri, 28 May 1999 16:57:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id QAA84761; Fri, 28 May 1999 16:57:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 16:57:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199905282357.QAA84761@freefall.freebsd.org> To: nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, nik@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/10474: A command line in a man document is incompleted. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: A command line in a man document is incompleted. Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->nik Responsible-Changed-By: nik Responsible-Changed-When: Fri May 28 16:57:40 PDT 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: Mine. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri May 28 16:58:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F40E14C10; Fri, 28 May 1999 16:58:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id QAA84847; Fri, 28 May 1999 16:58:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 16:58:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199905282358.QAA84847@freefall.freebsd.org> To: nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, nik@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/10408: [quasi-patch] Grammar nitpicks in Handbook Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: [quasi-patch] Grammar nitpicks in Handbook Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->nik Responsible-Changed-By: nik Responsible-Changed-When: Fri May 28 16:57:58 PDT 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: Will pick these nits. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri May 28 16:58:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66DFB14C10; Fri, 28 May 1999 16:58:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id QAA84923; Fri, 28 May 1999 16:58:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 16:58:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199905282358.QAA84923@freefall.freebsd.org> To: nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, nik@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/10403: CDE is no longer sold by Xi Graphics. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: CDE is no longer sold by Xi Graphics. Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->nik Responsible-Changed-By: nik Responsible-Changed-When: Fri May 28 16:58:29 PDT 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: Will do. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri May 28 16:59:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 917DE14C10; Fri, 28 May 1999 16:59:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id QAA85071; Fri, 28 May 1999 16:59:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 16:59:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199905282359.QAA85071@freefall.freebsd.org> To: nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, jkh@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/10146: Release Notes and LINT for 3.1 include hardware not supported Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Release Notes and LINT for 3.1 include hardware not supported Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->jkh Responsible-Changed-By: nik Responsible-Changed-When: Fri May 28 16:58:52 PDT 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: Reassigned to JKH and his release engineering skills. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri May 28 21: 5: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from server4.reno.powernet.net (server4.reno.powernet.net [208.226.189.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B448214DB3 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 21:04:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from trzy@powernet.net) Received: from brzuszek (p3-20.reno.powernet.net [208.226.189.140]) by server4.reno.powernet.net (8.9.0/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA27684 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 21:04:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990528210209.00875100@powernet.net> X-Sender: trzy@powernet.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 21:02:09 -0700 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG From: Bart Trzynadlowski Subject: online man pages? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I thought perhaps this suggestion might best belong hear. I am fairly new to FreeBSD and find that man pages help out a lot (ofcourse, that IS what manuals are for anyway...). However I cannot print stuff while in FreeBSD and the hassle of streaming the output of "man topic" into a file, copying that file to my DOS partition, and then rebooting to Win95 to print it is becoming a bit of a hassle :) I was wondering if the FreeBSD.org web site would consider putting up some simple CGI script that would enable a user to type in a topic, submit the query, and be greeted by the man page. This is just a suggestion, I've never done stuff with CGI or Perl but I'm assuming taking the output of a man page and printing it over HTTP would be possible and fairly helpful. Well, just another one of my random thoughts for ya! Thanks, Bart Trzynadlowski To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri May 28 21:15:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blues.ghis.net (slcan52p03.ozemail.com.au [203.108.176.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8468151B5 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 21:15:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@blues.ghis.net) Received: (from jim@localhost) by blues.ghis.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA11844; Sat, 29 May 1999 14:14:58 +1000 (EST) Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 14:14:57 +1000 From: Jim Mock To: Bart Trzynadlowski Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: online man pages? Message-ID: <19990529141457.A11808@blues.ghis.net> Reply-To: jim@blues.ghis.net References: <3.0.5.32.19990528210209.00875100@powernet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.5i In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990528210209.00875100@powernet.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 28 May 1999 at 21:02:09 -0700, Bart Trzynadlowski wrote: > Hello, > I thought perhaps this suggestion might best belong hear. I am > fairly new to FreeBSD and find that man pages help out a lot > (ofcourse, that IS what manuals are for anyway...). However I cannot > print stuff while in FreeBSD and the hassle of streaming the output > of "man topic" into a file, copying that file to my DOS partition, > and then rebooting to Win95 to print it is becoming a bit of a > hassle :) > > I was wondering if the FreeBSD.org web site would consider putting > up some simple CGI script that would enable a user to type in a > topic, submit the query, and be greeted by the man page. This is > just a suggestion, I've never done stuff with CGI or Perl but I'm > assuming taking the output of a man page and printing it over HTTP > would be possible and fairly helpful. Such an animal already exists, and has for quite some time. Did you look? Take a look at http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi -- - Jim Mock - jim@blues.ghis.net - systems administrator - ghis.NET - - work: http://www.ghis.net/ - personal: http://www.ghis.net/~jim/ - - FreeBSD 'zine: http://www.freebsdzine.org/ - jim@freebsdzine.org - - FreeBSD: http://advocacy.freebsd.org/ - jim@advocacy.FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat May 29 0:26:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from iaehv.iae.nl (iaehv.IAE.nl [194.151.64.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9EB214D8A for ; Sat, 29 May 1999 00:26:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cid@iaehv.nl) Received: from jojo1 (pm13d36.iae.nl [212.61.2.35]) by iaehv.iae.nl (Postfix) with SMTP id EB56A20F13 for ; Sat, 29 May 1999 09:26:18 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <000701bea9a4$9bcebae0$23023dd4@jojo1> From: "Jo Mantelers" To: Subject: "your favorite mirror tool" ? Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 09:26:46 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01BEA9B5.5F0CC640" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BEA9B5.5F0CC640 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, This might be a mm mm question to you, but it is giving me troubles:=20 on page http://www.ca.freebsd.org/FAQ/FAQ21.html you mention 'using your favorite ftp mirror tool'. What I am looking for = is a program that automatically mirrors one site with another several = times a day, without user interaction. Well, i don't have a favorite = tool who can do this, so my question to you is: can you suggest a simple = tool (Unix deamon or whatever) that can get (and put) directory trees = from (and to) sites at certain timestamps. As mentioned: i have been looking around a long time now, but can't = found a ready-to-use solution. Any help is appreciated greatly. Thanks Jo mantelers ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BEA9B5.5F0CC640 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,
 
This might be a mm mm question to you, but it is = giving me=20 troubles:
 
on page http://www.ca.freebsd.o= rg/FAQ/FAQ21.html
 
you mention 'using your favorite ftp = mirror=20 tool'. What I am looking for is a program that automatically mirrors one = site=20 with another several times a day, without user interaction. Well, i = don't have a=20 favorite tool who can do this, so my question to you is: can you suggest = a=20 simple tool (Unix deamon or whatever) that can get (and put) directory = trees=20 from (and to) sites at certain timestamps.
 
As mentioned: i have been looking = around a long=20 time now, but can't found a ready-to-use solution.
 
Any help is appreciated = greatly.
 
Thanks
 
Jo = mantelers
------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BEA9B5.5F0CC640-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat May 29 0:30:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from iaehv.iae.nl (iaehv.IAE.nl [194.151.64.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF1CF14D8A for ; Sat, 29 May 1999 00:30:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cid@iaehv.nl) Received: from jojo1 (pm13d38.iae.nl [212.61.2.37]) by iaehv.iae.nl (Postfix) with SMTP id 8E61E20F16 for ; Sat, 29 May 1999 09:30:45 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <001201bea9a5$3ab83000$25023dd4@jojo1> From: "Jo Mantelers" To: Subject: Mentioned FTP mirror tool Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 09:31:12 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000F_01BEA9B5.FDF63B60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01BEA9B5.FDF63B60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, =20 This might be a mm mm question to you, but it is giving me troubles, and = hope you can help:=20 on page http://www.ca.freebsd.org/FAQ/FAQ21.html =20 you mention 'using your favorite ftp mirror tool'. What I am looking for = is a program that automatically mirrors one site with another several = times a day, without user interaction. Well, i don't have a favorite = tool that can do this, so my question to you is: can you suggest a = simple tool (Unix deamon or whatever) that can get (and put) directory = trees from (and to) sites at certain timestamps. =20 As mentioned: i have been looking around a long time now, but can't find = a ready-to-use solution. =20 Any help is appreciated greatly. =20 Thanks =20 Jo Mantelers ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01BEA9B5.FDF63B60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,
 
This might be a mm mm question to you, but it is = giving me=20 troubles, and hope you can help:
 
on page http://www.ca.freebsd.o= rg/FAQ/FAQ21.html
 
you mention 'using your favorite ftp = mirror=20 tool'. What I am looking for is a program that automatically mirrors one = site=20 with another several times a day, without user interaction. Well, i = don't have a=20 favorite tool that can do this, so my question to you is: can you = suggest a=20 simple tool (Unix deamon or whatever) that can get (and put) directory = trees=20 from (and to) sites at certain timestamps.
 
As mentioned: i have been looking = around a long=20 time now, but can't find a ready-to-use solution.
 
Any help is appreciated = greatly.
 
Thanks
 
Jo Mantelers
 
------=_NextPart_000_000F_01BEA9B5.FDF63B60-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat May 29 5: 3:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from server4.mpcbbs.com.br (server4.mpc.com.br [200.246.0.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79DC914E09 for ; Sat, 29 May 1999 05:03:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from capriotti@geocities.com) Received: from hotnt (d2p86.mpcnet.com.br [200.246.29.214]) by server4.mpcbbs.com.br (8.8.8/8.8.6) with SMTP id JAA14638 for ; Sat, 29 May 1999 09:03:13 -0300 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19990523100043.0093abf0@pop.mpcnet.com.br> X-Sender: capriotti@pop.mpcnet.com.br X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 10:00:46 -0300 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG From: Capriotti Subject: Indexes seem to be a bit screwed Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi. Searching for the words Cirrus and modem on the questions database returned the following, among others: >1.Kent Stewa Re: Installing a PnP modem > Score: 328; Lines: 55; 12-Apr-1999; Archive: freebsd-questions > > 2.Doug White Re: Problems with a PCI modem > Score: 348; Lines: 48; 12-Apr-1999; Archive: freebsd-questions > but, when accessing these links, a completly different result showed up: >Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 00:54:08 -0400 (EDT) >To: dan@dpcsys.com (Dan Busarow) >Cc: mrcpu@internetcds.com, adamn@csl.com, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >Subject: Re: routed/gated confusion >In-Reply-To: from Dan Busarow at "Apr 12, 99 09:34:01 pm" and >Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:36:22 -0700 (PDT) >From: Doug White >To: Sumantro Ray >Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >Subject: Re: Booting freebsd from a floppy >Message-ID: >In-Reply-To: Note: I noticed the note about searching more than 4 categories at a time. I, again, used "questions" only. regards To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat May 29 5:57:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AEC714FC5; Sat, 29 May 1999 05:57:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id FAA39955; Sat, 29 May 1999 05:57:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 05:57:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199905291257.FAA39955@freefall.freebsd.org> To: andy@icc.surw.chel.su, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/11733: Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/admin.sgml Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/admin.sgml State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Sat May 29 05:56:58 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat May 29 11:30: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A724414FB2 for ; Sat, 29 May 1999 11:30:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id LAA23868; Sat, 29 May 1999 11:30:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 32767) id 556B115184; Sat, 29 May 1999 11:29:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <19990529182904.556B115184@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 11:29:04 -0700 (PDT) From: andrew@cream.org To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/11927: Parallel Port Zip Drive Question in FAQ needs updating Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11927 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Parallel Port Zip Drive Question in FAQ needs updating >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat May 29 11:30:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Andrew Boothman >Release: 3.1-RELEASE >Organization: >Environment: All releases are affected >Description: The Parallel Port Zip Drive question in the FAQ, while strictly accuarate, could do with updating to reflect the current situation, and also to be a little more detailed about how to enable Parallel Drive support in the kernel. I've never written anything for the docproj before, so could you please check the sgml in my diff. The FAQ doesn't seem to be in Docbook yet. Thanks! >How-To-Repeat: Look at the FAQ. Duh! :) >Fix: Diff for hardware.sgml : 58,61c58,65 <

FreeBSD 3.0-STABLE contains support for the parallel Zip < However, you will need to build a new kernel with < support for ppbus (Parallel Port Bus) in order to use the Zip. See < the LINT configuration file for examples. --- >

FreeBSD has contained support for Parallel Port Zip Drives since > version 3.0. If you are using a sufficently up to date version, then > you should check that your kernel contains the scbus0, da0 > , ppbus0, and vp0 drivers (The GENERIC kernel > contains everything except vp0). With all these drivers present, the > Parallel Port drive should be available as /dev/da0s4. Hence, disks can > be mounted using mount /dev/da0s4 /mnt OR (for dos disks) > mount_msdos /dev/da0s4 /mnt >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat May 29 12:16:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net [199.45.39.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 948BF14C97 for ; Sat, 29 May 1999 12:16:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kita@bellatlantic.net) Received: from bellatlantic.net (client196-111-100.bellatlantic.net [151.196.111.100]) by smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA27949 for ; Sat, 29 May 1999 15:19:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <37503C68.66F13FE8@bellatlantic.net> Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 15:13:44 -0400 From: kita jackson Reply-To: kita@bellatlantic.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: installing freebsd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello Doc, Can you install the latest ver of freebsd over the 2.2.4, or must you uninstall the present version before the latest version? Is the latest version of freebsd more user friendly with apache 1.3.6; im trying to create a web server. I am already using 2.2.6? Tanx very much in advance for all of your help. zoodirt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat May 29 23:40: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 294FE1542D for ; Sat, 29 May 1999 23:40:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id XAA78824; Sat, 29 May 1999 23:40:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from notwork.snowville.fl.net.au (notwork.snowville.fl.net.au [203.30.61.124]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D0C31520E for ; Sat, 29 May 1999 23:39:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from als@notwork.snowville.fl.net.au) Received: (from als@localhost) by notwork.snowville.fl.net.au (8.9.2/8.9.2) id QAA03375; Sun, 30 May 1999 16:39:43 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from als) Message-Id: <199905300639.QAA03375@notwork.snowville.fl.net.au> Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 16:39:43 +1000 (EST) From: als@fl.net.au Reply-To: als@fl.net.au To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/11942: Spelling mistake in ipfw(8) manual page found Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11942 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Spelling mistake in ipfw(8) manual page found >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat May 29 23:40:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Andrew Snow >Release: FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE i386 >Organization: First Link Internet Services (www.fl.net.au) >Environment: FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE system, manual page for ipfw(8). >Description: A line reads: "The kernel must have been compiled with optiions" >How-To-Repeat: man 8 ipfw, and search for "optiions" :-) >Fix: Replace "optiions" with "options" >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun May 30 3:37: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from picalon.gun.de (picalon.gun.de [194.77.0.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8E7114D75 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 03:37:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andreas@klemm.gtn.com) Received: from klemm.gtn.com (pppak04.gtn.com [194.231.123.169]) by picalon.gun.de (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA19067 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 12:36:59 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from andreas@localhost) by klemm.gtn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA03393 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 30 May 1999 12:35:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from andreas) Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 12:35:45 +0200 From: Andreas Klemm To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: how to expand teTeX-betas pool-size for jadetex, and which value ... Message-ID: <19990530123545.A75926@titan.klemm.gtn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE SMP X-Disclaimer: A free society is one where it is safe to be unpopular Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi ! Want to setup a FreeBSD webserver for my local use. Have problems with TeX's pool size. BTW, first I tried the newest available teTeX version, but using this version there are some problems with classes (french), I even couldn't create the jadetex .fmt file. Well, so I downgraded to the standard teTeX-beta port. But now these runtime problems with pool size. ==> TeX pass 1/3 tex "&jadetex" handbook.tex This is TeX, Version 3.14159 (Web2C 7.2) (handbook.tex JadeTeX 1998/10/12: 2.3 (/usr/local/share/texmf/tex/latex/psnfss/t1ptm.fd) (/usr/local/share/texmf/tex/jadetex/isoents.tex ! TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [pool size=14377]. l.1527 \def\ Entsqsubset{\ensuremath{\sqsubset}}% 228F Which files exactly do I have to tune ? Now I changed into the teTeX subdir and changed pool_size to 100000 in every .ch and .web file (for tex, metafont, bibtex). That's perhaps overkill. What's your recommendation ? Please do a group reply, I don't have freebsd-doc subscribed. Thanks a lot Andreas /// -- Andreas Klemm http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/~andreas http://www.freebsd.org/~fsmp/SMP/SMP.html powered by Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun May 30 3:52:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (baerenklau.de.freebsd.org [195.185.195.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEC7D1567C for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 03:52:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from w@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id MAA27676; Sun, 30 May 1999 12:52:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from w@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from w@localhost) by paula.panke.de.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.8.8) id MAA01137; Sun, 30 May 1999 12:23:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from w) Message-ID: <19990530122345.36172@panke.de.freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 12:23:45 +0200 From: Wolfram Schneider To: Andrew Boothman , FreeBSD Doc Mailing List Subject: Re: Willing Volunteer References: <374B377D.969335EE@cream.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <374B377D.969335EE@cream.org>; from Andrew Boothman on Wed, May 26, 1999 at 12:51:25AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 1999-05-26 00:51:25 +0100, Andrew Boothman wrote: > Hi! > > I'm new to the documentation project, and I was wondering what I can do > to help. > > I stopped following the mailing list when we were trying to change to > DocBook because I had to sit some major exams. > > So what are the current ongoing jobs that need some more work? http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/current.html -- Wolfram Schneider http://wolfram.schneider.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun May 30 3:52:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (baerenklau.de.freebsd.org [195.185.195.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A03D514C44 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 03:52:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from w@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id MAA27677; Sun, 30 May 1999 12:52:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from w@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from w@localhost) by paula.panke.de.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.8.8) id MAA01149; Sun, 30 May 1999 12:26:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from w) Message-ID: <19990530122621.15464@panke.de.freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 12:26:21 +0200 From: Wolfram Schneider To: Charlie Root , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Translation WEB into Bulgaria References: <199905280812.LAA06815@www.koral.bg> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <199905280812.LAA06815@www.koral.bg>; from Charlie Root on Fri, May 28, 1999 at 11:12:36AM +0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 1999-05-28 11:12:36 +0300, Charlie Root wrote: > I began to translate WEB pages into Bulgarian. Did it help someone are > interested on it? I can add your translation project to http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/translations.html if you want. -- Wolfram Schneider http://wolfram.schneider.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun May 30 5: 0:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from picalon.gun.de (picalon.gun.de [192.109.159.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71DAD14D71 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 05:00:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andreas@klemm.gtn.com) Received: from klemm.gtn.com (pppak04.gtn.com [194.231.123.169]) by picalon.gun.de (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA20829 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 14:00:22 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from andreas@localhost) by klemm.gtn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA18211 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 30 May 1999 13:10:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from andreas) Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 13:10:49 +0200 From: Andreas Klemm To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Sorry, found it explained during jadetex installation Message-ID: <19990530131048.A18174@titan.klemm.gtn.com> References: <19990530123545.A75926@titan.klemm.gtn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990530123545.A75926@titan.klemm.gtn.com>; from Andreas Klemm on Sun, May 30, 1999 at 12:35:45PM +0200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE SMP X-Disclaimer: A free society is one where it is safe to be unpopular Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi ! Dunno, why reading messages on the screen is sometimes soo difficult (I already know this from apsfilter users and am now bitched myself by this :-) -- Andreas Klemm http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/~andreas http://www.freebsd.org/~fsmp/SMP/SMP.html powered by Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun May 30 5:25:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A2D6150B3; Sun, 30 May 1999 05:25:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hoek@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from hoek@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id FAA96710; Sun, 30 May 1999 05:25:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hoek@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 05:25:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199905301225.FAA96710@freefall.freebsd.org> To: hoek@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, kris@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/11942: Spelling mistake in ipfw(8) manual page found Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Spelling mistake in ipfw(8) manual page found Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->kris Responsible-Changed-By: hoek Responsible-Changed-When: Sun May 30 05:24:23 PDT 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: I presume Kris is planning to merge is r.1.52 rev of ipfw.8 to -stable so that he can close this pr, right? :-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun May 30 8: 0: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C02214FF6 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 08:00:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id IAA64903; Sun, 30 May 1999 08:00:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from leap.innerx.net (leap.innerx.net [38.179.176.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAA3A150B3 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 07:54:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@holly.dyndns.org) Received: from holly.dyndns.org (ip78.houston2.tx.pub-ip.psi.net [38.11.201.78]) by leap.innerx.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E56E37004 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 10:54:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA04873; Sun, 30 May 1999 09:54:49 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from chris) Message-Id: <199905301454.JAA04873@holly.dyndns.org> Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 09:54:49 -0500 (CDT) From: chris@calldei.com Reply-To: chris@calldei.com To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/11944: [Patch] www/en/docproj/current.sgml has cosmetic errors Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11944 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [Patch] www/en/docproj/current.sgml has cosmetic errors >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun May 30 08:00:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Chris Costello >Release: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: None. >Environment: www tree, CVSupped today. >Description: There are malformed email address links, , or a hybrid of the two. References to FreeBSD.org and freebsd.org changed to just FreeBSD.org >How-To-Repeat: View http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/current.html >Fix: Index: current.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/www/en/docproj/current.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.11 diff -u -r1.11 current.sgml --- current.sgml 1999/04/26 21:47:42 1.11 +++ current.sgml 1999/05/30 12:34:29 @@ -46,7 +46,7 @@ database. You can view + href="http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr-summary.cgi?category=docs&responsible=.">view the open documenation problem reports. @@ -120,8 +120,8 @@

Write some new Papers

The FreeBSD VM architecture

-

Responsible: John Dyson < - dyson@iquest.net

+

Responsible: John Dyson + <dyson@iquest.net>

Synopsis: FreeBSD 2.x has a completly rewritten virtual memory architecture. Unfortunately there is no documentation available @@ -132,16 +132,16 @@

The New SCSI layer for FreeBSD (CAM)

Responsible: - <doc@freebsd.org>, - <scsi@freebsd.org> -

Synopsis: See + <doc@FreeBSD.org>, + <scsi@FreeBSD.org> +

Synopsis: See The Design and Implementation of the FreeBSD SCSI Subsystem for a first snapshot.

Write some new Tutorials

Responsible: - <doc@freebsd.org + <doc@FreeBSD.org>

Synopsis:

    @@ -152,15 +152,15 @@

    Write Manpages for the kernel

    Responsible: - <doc@freebsd.org + <doc@FreeBSD.org>

    Synopsis: Document kernel functions, section 9

    CGI Scripts

    Responsible: - <doc@freebsd.org, - Wolfram Schneider < - wosch@freebsd.org + <doc@FreeBSD.org>, + Wolfram Schneider + <wosch@FreeBSD.org>

    Synopsis:

    • Rewrite cvsweb.cgi cgi script from scratch using a @@ -223,14 +223,14 @@

      Contact Nik Clayton <nik@FreeBSD.ORG> for a - first snapshot + first snapshot of the ports module.

      Multilingual Web scripts

      Responsible: - <doc@freebsd.org> + <doc@FreeBSD.org>

      Synopsis: @@ -246,9 +246,9 @@

      • Merge the perl scripts www/en/ports/portindex + href="ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-current/www/en/ports/portindex">www/en/ports/portindex and www/ja/ports/portindex + href="ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-current/www/ja/ports/portindex">www/ja/ports/portindex into one script. Add an option for English and Japanese output.
      @@ -257,7 +257,7 @@

      Translations of the FreeBSD Documentation

      Responsible: - <doc@freebsd.org + <doc@FreeBSD.org> Translate the FreeBSD documentation (Web pages, FAQ, handbook, manpages) into other languages. 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The evaluation is performed by qualified American physicians in a manner which is simple, secure, and without embarrassment. http://www.smartsurf.net/clients/medicalcenter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun May 30 9:17:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mailbox.syr.edu (mailbox.syr.edu [128.230.18.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0F7114CB9 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 09:17:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yli03@syr.edu) Received: from videoserv (syru149-023.syr.edu [128.230.149.23]) by mailbox.syr.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id MAA24884 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 12:17:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000701beaab7$bd3fe190$8595e680@videoserv.cat.syr.edu> From: "Yun Li" To: Subject: Can we just take a look at what FreeBSD looks like, please? Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 12:16:13 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01BEAA96.360B2930" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BEAA96.360B2930 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, there, I am entering this site and spend 20 minutes, cannot find a single page = showing me a screenshot of FreeBSD, will you please put some on so the = newbie will get a visual feeling of it? thanks Yun ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BEAA96.360B2930 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

      Hi, there,
       
      I am entering this site = and spend 20=20 minutes, cannot find a single page showing me a screenshot of FreeBSD, = will you=20 please put some on so the newbie will get a visual feeling of = it?
       
      thanks
      Yun
      ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BEAA96.360B2930-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun May 30 9:34:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF5BF14D2E for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 09:34:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) id RAA05311; Sun, 30 May 1999 17:34:21 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 17:34:20 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Andreas Klemm Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sorry, found it explained during jadetex installation Message-ID: <19990530173419.A34020@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19990530123545.A75926@titan.klemm.gtn.com> <19990530131048.A18174@titan.klemm.gtn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990530131048.A18174@titan.klemm.gtn.com>; from Andreas Klemm on Sun, May 30, 1999 at 01:10:49PM +0200 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, May 30, 1999 at 01:10:49PM +0200, Andreas Klemm wrote: > Dunno, why reading messages on the screen is sometimes soo > difficult (I already know this from apsfilter users and am > now bitched myself by this :-) Any idea how to make the warning more prominent? I know it sort of flys by if you're in the middle of building the textproc/docproj port, but I wasn't sure where else to put it. N -- The trial continues tomorrow. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun May 30 9:41:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from rosemary.rosetta.zon (dynamic061.indra.com [204.144.142.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E545314D82 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 09:41:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kelly@ad1440.net) Received: from ad1440.net (saffron.rosetta.zon [172.16.16.104]) by rosemary.rosetta.zon (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA05177; Sun, 30 May 1999 10:41:08 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from kelly@ad1440.net) Message-ID: <37516A51.41F3D48F@ad1440.net> Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 10:41:54 -0600 From: Sean Kelly Organization: Consultant - available for hire X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nik Clayton Cc: Andreas Klemm , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sorry, found it explained during jadetex installation References: <19990530123545.A75926@titan.klemm.gtn.com> <19990530131048.A18174@titan.klemm.gtn.com> <19990530173419.A34020@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Any idea how to make the warning more prominent? I know it sort of flys by > if you're in the middle of building the textproc/docproj port, but I > wasn't sure where else to put it. Embed a few thousand CTRL+G's? :-) --Sean To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun May 30 10:15:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from leap.innerx.net (leap.innerx.net [38.179.176.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0283814F03 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 10:15:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@holly.dyndns.org) Received: from holly.dyndns.org (ip78.houston2.tx.pub-ip.psi.net [38.11.201.78]) by leap.innerx.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 374E53707D; Sun, 30 May 1999 13:15:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA05100; Sun, 30 May 1999 12:15:12 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from chris) Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 12:15:08 -0500 From: Chris Costello To: Yun Li Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Can we just take a look at what FreeBSD looks like, please? Message-ID: <19990530121508.C1297@holly.dyndns.org> Reply-To: chris@calldei.com References: <000701beaab7$bd3fe190$8595e680@videoserv.cat.syr.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.2i In-Reply-To: <000701beaab7$bd3fe190$8595e680@videoserv.cat.syr.edu>; from Yun Li on Sun, May 30, 1999 at 12:16:13PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, May 30, 1999, Yun Li wrote: > Hi, there, > > I am entering this site and spend 20 minutes, cannot find a single > page showing me a screenshot of FreeBSD, will you please put some > on so the newbie will get a visual feeling of it? How do you mean? FreeBSD can look like anything you want it to! Just about every look you see at http://www.themes.org under the various screenshots for various window managers can be achieved under FreeBSD. -- Chris Costello Microwave: Signal from a friendly micro... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun May 30 10:18: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from scrabble.freeuk.net (scrabble.freeuk.net [212.126.144.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFAE31518E for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 10:17:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrew@cream.org) Received: from [212.126.148.182] (helo=cream.org) by scrabble.freeuk.net with esmtp (Exim 2.11 #1) id 10o9Dd-0005IN-00; Sun, 30 May 1999 17:17:54 +0000 Content-Length: 304 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <19990530122345.36172@panke.de.freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 18:15:16 +0100 (BST) From: Andrew Boothman To: Wolfram Schneider Subject: Re: Willing Volunteer Cc: FreeBSD Doc Mailing List Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 30-May-99 Wolfram Schneider wrote: > http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/current.html Agreed. I sent that message before I'd properly checked out the web site. I've read that, and the primer and installed the docproj port now. Many thanks. --- Andrew Boothman http://sour.cream.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun May 30 10:42:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from picalon.gun.de (picalon.gun.de [192.109.159.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E422215141 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 10:42:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andreas@klemm.gtn.com) Received: from klemm.gtn.com (pppak04.gtn.com [194.231.123.169]) by picalon.gun.de (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA29179; Sun, 30 May 1999 19:42:15 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from andreas@localhost) by klemm.gtn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA36085; Sun, 30 May 1999 19:37:35 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from andreas) Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 19:37:34 +0200 From: Andreas Klemm To: Nik Clayton Cc: Andreas Klemm , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sorry, found it explained during jadetex installation Message-ID: <19990530193734.A36065@titan.klemm.gtn.com> References: <19990530123545.A75926@titan.klemm.gtn.com> <19990530131048.A18174@titan.klemm.gtn.com> <19990530173419.A34020@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990530173419.A34020@catkin.nothing-going-on.org>; from Nik Clayton on Sun, May 30, 1999 at 05:34:20PM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE SMP X-Disclaimer: A free society is one where it is safe to be unpopular Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, May 30, 1999 at 05:34:20PM +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: > On Sun, May 30, 1999 at 01:10:49PM +0200, Andreas Klemm wrote: > > Dunno, why reading messages on the screen is sometimes soo > > difficult (I already know this from apsfilter users and am > > now bitched myself by this :-) > > Any idea how to make the warning more prominent? I know it sort of flys by > if you're in the middle of building the textproc/docproj port, but I > wasn't sure where else to put it. What about patching the file automatically ? Extract the value in question, compare it, adjust to suggested value, if the original value is smaller than the suggested one ... The user wants/needs jadetex, so make it easy for him ... Just a suggestion. -- Andreas Klemm http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/~andreas http://www.freebsd.org/~fsmp/SMP/SMP.html powered by Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun May 30 10:42:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from picalon.gun.de (picalon.gun.de [192.109.159.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 110ED15163 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 10:42:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andreas@klemm.gtn.com) Received: from klemm.gtn.com (pppak04.gtn.com [194.231.123.169]) by picalon.gun.de (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA29188; Sun, 30 May 1999 19:42:18 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from andreas@localhost) by klemm.gtn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA36102; Sun, 30 May 1999 19:38:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from andreas) Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 19:38:07 +0200 From: Andreas Klemm To: Sean Kelly Cc: Nik Clayton , Andreas Klemm , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sorry, found it explained during jadetex installation Message-ID: <19990530193806.B36065@titan.klemm.gtn.com> References: <19990530123545.A75926@titan.klemm.gtn.com> <19990530131048.A18174@titan.klemm.gtn.com> <19990530173419.A34020@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <37516A51.41F3D48F@ad1440.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <37516A51.41F3D48F@ad1440.net>; from Sean Kelly on Sun, May 30, 1999 at 10:41:54AM -0600 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE SMP X-Disclaimer: A free society is one where it is safe to be unpopular Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, May 30, 1999 at 10:41:54AM -0600, Sean Kelly wrote: > > Any idea how to make the warning more prominent? I know it sort of flys by > > if you're in the middle of building the textproc/docproj port, but I > > wasn't sure where else to put it. > > Embed a few thousand CTRL+G's? :-) Uhuhuuuu, noooo never ;-) -- Andreas Klemm http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/~andreas http://www.freebsd.org/~fsmp/SMP/SMP.html powered by Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun May 30 11:30:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from tok.qiv.com (tok.qiv.com [205.238.142.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E62914A2D for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 11:30:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdn@acp.qiv.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by tok.qiv.com (MailHost/Current) with UUCP id NAA07157; Sun, 30 May 1999 13:30:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (jdn@localhost) by acp.qiv.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA08528; Sun, 30 May 1999 13:09:10 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jdn@acp.qiv.com) Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 13:09:10 -0500 (CDT) From: Jay Nelson To: Andreas Klemm Cc: Nik Clayton , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sorry, found it explained during jadetex installation In-Reply-To: <19990530193734.A36065@titan.klemm.gtn.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 30 May 1999, Andreas Klemm wrote: [snip] >What about patching the file automatically ? >Extract the value in question, compare it, adjust to >suggested value, if the original value is smaller than the >suggested one ... Not a good idea. If someone has increased TeX's capacity beyond what jadetex needs, they could end up ambushed -- or at least "untuned". -- Jay To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun May 30 12: 2:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16F8A15243 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 12:02:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) id UAA24978; Sun, 30 May 1999 20:02:12 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 20:02:11 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Jay Nelson Cc: Andreas Klemm , Nik Clayton , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sorry, found it explained during jadetex installation Message-ID: <19990530200210.A24788@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19990530193734.A36065@titan.klemm.gtn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: ; from Jay Nelson on Sun, May 30, 1999 at 01:09:10PM -0500 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, May 30, 1999 at 01:09:10PM -0500, Jay Nelson wrote: > On Sun, 30 May 1999, Andreas Klemm wrote: > [snip] > > >What about patching the file automatically ? > >Extract the value in question, compare it, adjust to > >suggested value, if the original value is smaller than the > >suggested one ... > > Not a good idea. If someone has increased TeX's capacity beyond what > jadetex needs, they could end up ambushed -- or at least "untuned". It's probably 10 lines of Perl to write this. Does anyone fancy beating me to it? N -- The trial continues tomorrow. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun May 30 12: 7:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from picalon.gun.de (picalon.gun.de [192.109.159.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3462D14F74 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 12:07:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andreas@klemm.gtn.com) Received: from klemm.gtn.com (pppak04.gtn.com [194.231.123.169]) by picalon.gun.de (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA01400; Sun, 30 May 1999 21:07:12 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from andreas@localhost) by klemm.gtn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA02086; Sun, 30 May 1999 21:06:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from andreas) Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 21:06:54 +0200 From: Andreas Klemm To: Jay Nelson Cc: Andreas Klemm , Nik Clayton , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sorry, found it explained during jadetex installation Message-ID: <19990530210654.A1835@titan.klemm.gtn.com> References: <19990530193734.A36065@titan.klemm.gtn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: ; from Jay Nelson on Sun, May 30, 1999 at 01:09:10PM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE SMP X-Disclaimer: A free society is one where it is safe to be unpopular Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, May 30, 1999 at 01:09:10PM -0500, Jay Nelson wrote: > On Sun, 30 May 1999, Andreas Klemm wrote: > > [snip] > > >What about patching the file automatically ? > >Extract the value in question, compare it, adjust to > >suggested value, if the original value is smaller than the > >suggested one ... > > Not a good idea. If someone has increased TeX's capacity beyond what > jadetex needs, they could end up ambushed -- or at least "untuned". You didn't read my message precisely ;-) I talked about extracting the current settings and upgrading only, when current settings are lower. Or the other way around, if user already pushed settings to a higher value as needed by jadetex, then leave values as they are. Should be not to difficult, to grep for the variable names and to extract the value after the '=' sign. Then only a if [ $xxx -lt number ] comparision and you are through ... I'd pipe the whole config file through awk, and if it hit's a line with a variable we want to check, you can do the necessary testing and doing changes by doing something like print $1,"=", higher_number or same number print $1,"=", $3 -- Andreas Klemm http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/~andreas http://www.freebsd.org/~fsmp/SMP/SMP.html powered by Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun May 30 13: 0:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from picalon.gun.de (picalon.gun.de [194.77.0.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F21514DBE for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 13:00:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andreas@klemm.gtn.com) Received: from klemm.gtn.com (pppak04.gtn.com [194.231.123.169]) by picalon.gun.de (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA02552; Sun, 30 May 1999 22:00:11 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from andreas@localhost) by klemm.gtn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA02929; Sun, 30 May 1999 21:41:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from andreas) Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 21:41:56 +0200 From: Andreas Klemm To: Nik Clayton Cc: Jay Nelson , Andreas Klemm , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sorry, found it explained during jadetex installation Message-ID: <19990530214156.A2915@titan.klemm.gtn.com> References: <19990530193734.A36065@titan.klemm.gtn.com> <19990530200210.A24788@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990530200210.A24788@catkin.nothing-going-on.org>; from Nik Clayton on Sun, May 30, 1999 at 08:02:11PM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE SMP X-Disclaimer: A free society is one where it is safe to be unpopular Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, May 30, 1999 at 08:02:11PM +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: > On Sun, May 30, 1999 at 01:09:10PM -0500, Jay Nelson wrote: > > On Sun, 30 May 1999, Andreas Klemm wrote: > > [snip] > > > > >What about patching the file automatically ? > > >Extract the value in question, compare it, adjust to > > >suggested value, if the original value is smaller than the > > >suggested one ... > > > > Not a good idea. If someone has increased TeX's capacity beyond what > > jadetex needs, they could end up ambushed -- or at least "untuned". > > It's probably 10 lines of Perl to write this. Does anyone fancy beating > me to it? Would be a nice service, go Nik go ! ;-) -- Andreas Klemm http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/~andreas http://www.freebsd.org/~fsmp/SMP/SMP.html powered by Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun May 30 14: 0:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from tok.qiv.com (tok.qiv.com [205.238.142.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B3D614FCA for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 14:00:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdn@acp.qiv.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by tok.qiv.com (MailHost/Current) with UUCP id QAA07336; Sun, 30 May 1999 16:00:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (jdn@localhost) by acp.qiv.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA08733; Sun, 30 May 1999 15:57:05 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jdn@acp.qiv.com) Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 15:57:05 -0500 (CDT) From: Jay Nelson To: Andreas Klemm Cc: Nik Clayton , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sorry, found it explained during jadetex installation In-Reply-To: <19990530210654.A1835@titan.klemm.gtn.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 30 May 1999, Andreas Klemm wrote: >On Sun, May 30, 1999 at 01:09:10PM -0500, Jay Nelson wrote: >> On Sun, 30 May 1999, Andreas Klemm wrote: >> >> [snip] >> >> >What about patching the file automatically ? >> >Extract the value in question, compare it, adjust to >> >suggested value, if the original value is smaller than the >> >suggested one ... >> >> Not a good idea. If someone has increased TeX's capacity beyond what >> jadetex needs, they could end up ambushed -- or at least "untuned". > >You didn't read my message precisely ;-) >I talked about extracting the current settings >and upgrading only, when current settings are lower. >Or the other way around, if user already pushed settings to >a higher value as needed by jadetex, then leave values as they >are. I did read it. Are you suggesting a script capable of dealing with the relationship between, for example, main_memory.context, main_memory and extra_mem_* and balancing all the options and various pools to be sure it all fits in 8MB? And also, make the correct trade-off if it doesn't? How many of my format files do you propose be rebuild? How can you know if my format files have been modified? If you can do that in a simple perl script without clobbering people who use TeX for things other than the doc project, go for it. I'd like to see the script. Tuning TeX has always been a pain in the butt. Your suggestion seems like a mexican standoff. On one hand you're proposing to modify configurations automatically because some people don't read the screens. On the other, people who don't expect that behavior may not read the screens either -- so about all you accomplish is pissing off a different group of people. Maybe this is acceptable. Nik, if you attempt this, will there be a heads-up notice? -- Jay To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun May 30 14:58:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A187014C4E for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 14:58:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) id WAA54204; Sun, 30 May 1999 22:58:20 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 22:58:17 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Jay Nelson Cc: Andreas Klemm , Nik Clayton , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sorry, found it explained during jadetex installation Message-ID: <19990530225816.C24788@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19990530210654.A1835@titan.klemm.gtn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: ; from Jay Nelson on Sun, May 30, 1999 at 03:57:05PM -0500 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, May 30, 1999 at 03:57:05PM -0500, Jay Nelson wrote: > On Sun, 30 May 1999, Andreas Klemm wrote: > >On Sun, May 30, 1999 at 01:09:10PM -0500, Jay Nelson wrote: > Are you suggesting a script capable of dealing with the relationship > between, for example, main_memory.context, main_memory and extra_mem_* > and balancing all the options and various pools to be sure it all fits > in 8MB? And also, make the correct trade-off if it doesn't? How many > of my format files do you propose be rebuild? How can you know if my > format files have been modified? If you can do that in a simple perl > script without clobbering people who use TeX for things other than the > doc project, go for it. I'd like to see the script. Tuning TeX has > always been a pain in the butt. I was planning a 10 liner that parsed texmf.cnf, pulled out the appropriate values for the configuration, checked to see if they were >= the recommended minimums, and updated them (possibly with a warning first) if they were less than necessary. All this would be part of the docproj port rather than the teTeX port, so it's assumed the user does want to use teTeX with the Doc. Proj. > Your suggestion seems like a mexican standoff. On one hand you're > proposing to modify configurations automatically because some people > don't read the screens. On the other, people who don't expect that > behavior may not read the screens either -- so about all you > accomplish is pissing off a different group of people. Maybe this is > acceptable. > > Nik, if you attempt this, will there be a heads-up notice? If the relationship between the variables is that complex, I'll just add a post-install message to textproc/docproj reminding them to check the pkg/MESSAGE file for textproc/jadetex and make changes as necessary. Thoughts? N -- The trial continues tomorrow. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun May 30 16: 2:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from picalon.gun.de (picalon.gun.de [194.77.0.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54E3014E5A for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 16:00:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andreas@klemm.gtn.com) Received: from klemm.gtn.com (pppak04.gtn.com [194.231.123.169]) by picalon.gun.de (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA07359; Mon, 31 May 1999 01:00:47 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from andreas@localhost) by klemm.gtn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA39217; Mon, 31 May 1999 00:14:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from andreas) Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 00:13:59 +0200 From: Andreas Klemm To: Jay Nelson Cc: Andreas Klemm , Nik Clayton , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sorry, found it explained during jadetex installation Message-ID: <19990531001359.C34894@titan.klemm.gtn.com> References: <19990530210654.A1835@titan.klemm.gtn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: ; from Jay Nelson on Sun, May 30, 1999 at 03:57:05PM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE SMP X-Disclaimer: A free society is one where it is safe to be unpopular Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, May 30, 1999 at 03:57:05PM -0500, Jay Nelson wrote: > I did read it. > > Are you suggesting a script capable of dealing with the relationship > between, for example, main_memory.context, main_memory and extra_mem_* > and balancing all the options and various pools to be sure it all fits > in 8MB? Huh, didn't know that. I thought it were only the tweaking of the four (?) variables you mention during installation. So your installation instructions are not complete ;-) Or would it perhaps be sufficient, to get it to run ? If the latter is the case, then it would be o.k. in my opineon, to do the modifications (that you already suggested to the user) automatically, but telling people during install: a) that some basic tuning has been done, so that jadetex is able to produce output for the FreeBSD document project b) that it might need some fine tuning of the other variables. All in all you are now more likely to get a running port. -- Andreas Klemm http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/~andreas http://www.freebsd.org/~fsmp/SMP/SMP.html powered by Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun May 30 16: 2:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from tok.qiv.com (tok.qiv.com [205.238.142.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E78114DF6 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 16:00:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdn@acp.qiv.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by tok.qiv.com (MailHost/Current) with UUCP id SAA07491; Sun, 30 May 1999 18:00:11 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (jdn@localhost) by acp.qiv.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA08893; Sun, 30 May 1999 17:48:43 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jdn@acp.qiv.com) Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 17:48:43 -0500 (CDT) From: Jay Nelson To: Nik Clayton Cc: Andreas Klemm , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sorry, found it explained during jadetex installation In-Reply-To: <19990530225816.C24788@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 30 May 1999, Nik Clayton wrote: [snip] >I was planning a 10 liner that parsed texmf.cnf, pulled out the >appropriate values for the configuration, checked to see if they were >>= the recommended minimums, and updated them (possibly with a warning >first) if they were less than necessary. At the outer limits, tuning TeX for the large projects can get hairy. If the script asked for confirmation before making changes, I don't see a problem. There is an 8MB limit to the total memory allocated, and I've bumped into that before -- so an arbitrary changing of values would would be somewhat unhappy. If the script included the caveat "recommended" with the suggested changes, then those new to TeX could do the "right thing" yet those who understood the ramifications could opt out. I'm not opposed to the change. It would save a lot of questions. But modifying teTeX's tunables without some flag would, I think, be contrary to encouraging experienced users to contribute. If you raise the flags, though, you're back to the "read the screen" problem. I didn't find the warning that you currently have in place that easy to miss. >All this would be part of the docproj port rather than the teTeX port, >so it's assumed the user does want to use teTeX with the Doc. Proj. True -- but if I use TeX for production and want to explore the possibilities of the doc project, an ill considered changing of values in my TeX configuration would shoot me in the foot. >> Your suggestion seems like a mexican standoff. On one hand you're >> proposing to modify configurations automatically because some people >> don't read the screens. On the other, people who don't expect that >> behavior may not read the screens either -- so about all you >> accomplish is pissing off a different group of people. Maybe this is >> acceptable. >> >> Nik, if you attempt this, will there be a heads-up notice? > >If the relationship between the variables is that complex, I'll just add >a post-install message to textproc/docproj reminding them to check the >pkg/MESSAGE file for textproc/jadetex and make changes as necessary. > >Thoughts? The configuration is only tedious at the outer limits. -- and sometimes tuned to the project at hand. I don't see any problem if there is an opt-out optiion to the install. Those who understand and have tuned are more than capable of opting out and tuning later. Those who don't, can accept the recommendations and move on -- with a cooresponding reduction in problem reports. I do have to admit, though, my meager perl talents aren't up to this task. I think what you have in place is fine. I saw it and found that I had to make several passes to balance what the doc project required vs. what I required to make everything work. I'd be upset if that was changed "automagically." All in all -- it's not a bad idea. Just be sure you can correctly understand the user's environment and give them the option of opting out. (Frankly, Nik, I don't see anything wrong with what you already have in place. It's a nice balance between new and experienced users -- and I think you've achieved the balance.) It ain't broke;) -- Jay To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun May 30 18:38:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4227314F87; Sun, 30 May 1999 18:38:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hoek@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from hoek@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id SAA07439; Sun, 30 May 1999 18:38:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hoek@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 18:38:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199905310138.SAA07439@freefall.freebsd.org> To: hoek@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, dwhite@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/8765: some suggested text for describing passwords Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: some suggested text for describing passwords Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->dwhite Responsible-Changed-By: hoek Responsible-Changed-When: Sun May 30 18:34:21 PDT 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 15:41:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White To: "Howard F. Hu" Cc: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, bugs@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: doc/FAQ admin.sgml Message-ID: X-Mailer: Pine On Sat, 8 May 1999, Howard F. Hu wrote: > foxfair 1999/05/08 09:03:13 PDT [...] Please assign FAQ-related PRs to me. Thanks. Doug White Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | www.freebsd.org I tend to agree with the submitter that this seems to belong in the handbook, but I'll let you have a look at it. Besides, FAQ maintainer handbook-maintainer ... what's the difference? ;-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun May 30 18:42:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF59F14BCF; Sun, 30 May 1999 18:42:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hoek@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from hoek@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id SAA08138; Sun, 30 May 1999 18:42:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hoek@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 18:42:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199905310142.SAA08138@freefall.freebsd.org> To: andrew@cream.org, hoek@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/11927: Parallel Port Zip Drive Question in FAQ needs updating Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Parallel Port Zip Drive Question in FAQ needs updating State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: hoek State-Changed-When: Sun May 30 18:41:56 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Slightly modified patches applied, thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun May 30 18:50: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from tok.qiv.com (tok.qiv.com [205.238.142.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95D2814CA4 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 18:49:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdn@acp.qiv.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by tok.qiv.com (MailHost/Current) with UUCP id UAA07689; Sun, 30 May 1999 20:49:45 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (jdn@localhost) by acp.qiv.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id UAA09086; Sun, 30 May 1999 20:34:53 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jdn@acp.qiv.com) Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 20:34:53 -0500 (CDT) From: Jay Nelson To: Andreas Klemm Cc: Nik Clayton , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sorry, found it explained during jadetex installation In-Reply-To: <19990531001359.C34894@titan.klemm.gtn.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 31 May 1999, Andreas Klemm wrote: >Huh, didn't know that. I thought it were only the tweaking of the >four (?) variables you mention during installation. > >So your installation instructions are not complete ;-) No -- I think the instructions were fine. They left me with the choice that I thought was appropriate. The beauty of the ports system is that, if I don't want to play ball, I can delete the port with no harm done. It's difficult to balance the needs of those new to a system and those who want to see how it's used in a new context. I think Nik has done a good job and I would be hard pressed to arrive at a productive alternative. >Or would it perhaps be sufficient, to get it to run ? > >If the latter is the case, then it would be o.k. in my opineon, >to do the modifications (that you already suggested to the user) >automatically, but telling people during install: Strong disagreement -- damned near rant level disagreement. Strikes me as a MicroSoft approach. > a) that some basic tuning has been done, so that jadetex is > able to produce output for the FreeBSD document project I shot you in the foot for your own good? That approach doesn't win many converts. > b) that it might need some fine tuning of the other variables. Back to the drawing board for another round of twiddling? Without my agreement? That makes for bad blood. >All in all you are now more likely to get a running port. What is more important -- a port that runs, no matter the cost, or a port that will help some one, who may have other projects that can't afford to be shot down, join the project? Sorry, Andreas, I think the current mechanism is well balanced and honors the configuration I already have in place, yet raises the appropriate warnings for those new to the system. It's difficult to balance the needs of a new user with the needs of an admin required to meet the needs of the many who may use the system. I think that's one of the reasons why any Unix has failed to capture the average desktop audience -- and will probably continue to fail. Your suggestion is good, but assumes that everyone is running a single user desktop. That's not the case. I think the whole FreeBSD project has done an excellent job of combining these disparate objectives. It sometimes makes it difficult for a new user, but then again, so does any other flavor of Unix. I think that, ultimately, it's best to respect the needs of a production system rather than make it a no-brainer for the desktop user. The desktop user can come up to speed, yet an admin shot in the foot will spend hours, generally in the evening or weekend, repairing the change. The admin shot in the foot will also never forget. That's the exact type of experience that makes Solaris attractive. This is my 2 bits, only. I believe that those who do the work, call the shots. If these are the shots you call, please give us adequate heads-up. -- Jay To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun May 30 23: 1:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from picalon.gun.de (picalon.gun.de [192.109.159.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FBBD15051 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 23:01:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andreas@klemm.gtn.com) Received: from klemm.gtn.com (pppak04.gtn.com [194.231.123.169]) by picalon.gun.de (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA17798; Mon, 31 May 1999 08:00:33 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from andreas@localhost) by klemm.gtn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA55619; Mon, 31 May 1999 07:24:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from andreas) Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 07:24:41 +0200 From: Andreas Klemm To: Jay Nelson Cc: Andreas Klemm , Nik Clayton , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sorry, found it explained during jadetex installation Message-ID: <19990531072441.A55361@titan.klemm.gtn.com> References: <19990531001359.C34894@titan.klemm.gtn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: ; from Jay Nelson on Sun, May 30, 1999 at 08:34:53PM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE SMP X-Disclaimer: A free society is one where it is safe to be unpopular Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, May 30, 1999 at 08:34:53PM -0500, Jay Nelson wrote: > On Mon, 31 May 1999, Andreas Klemm wrote: > > >Huh, didn't know that. I thought it were only the tweaking of the > >four (?) variables you mention during installation. > > > >So your installation instructions are not complete ;-) > > No -- I think the instructions were fine. They left me with the choice > that I thought was appropriate. The beauty of the ports system is > that, if I don't want to play ball, I can delete the port with no harm > done. It's difficult to balance the needs of those new to a system and > those who want to see how it's used in a new context. I think Nik has > done a good job and I would be hard pressed to arrive at a productive > alternative. Certainly Nik has done a good job. No doubt about it. > Strong disagreement -- damned near rant level disagreement. Strikes me > as a MicroSoft approach. No not that :-/ Jay, all that I want is to check, if the user _still_ has values in the config file, that are _known_ to be too small for jadetex. If this is the case, it's a complete showstopper. I imagine, that people from the document project already went through this painful tuning process that isn't easy, as you say. Based on your experience (what finetuning is needed), it should be possible, to get some recommended values, that have to be configured, so that jadetex is able to "compile" the FreeBSD documents from the document project. If jadetex then is able, to compile the FreeBSD documents, the settings can't be that bad, or ?! BTW, is there perhaps a "meta-port" available for the document project ? Could we then agree, that only the meta-port does the tuning automatically (but of course with a warning message in the post-install target). If people use the metaport, then it should be evident, that jadetex is primary used for the document project and then the automatic tuning should be of greater value, than for people, that only want to use jadetex, with possibly other goals than translating doc from the document project ? Could we agree on that ? -- Andreas Klemm http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/~andreas http://www.freebsd.org/~fsmp/SMP/SMP.html powered by Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon May 31 1:30: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34A6B15062 for ; Mon, 31 May 1999 01:30:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id BAA49213; Mon, 31 May 1999 01:30:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from news-ma.rhein-neckar.de (news-ma.rhein-neckar.de [193.197.90.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91C1914F35 for ; Mon, 31 May 1999 01:28:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from naddy@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de) Received: from mips.rhein-neckar.de (uucp@localhost) by news-ma.rhein-neckar.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with bsmtp id AAA12337 for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; Mon, 31 May 1999 00:43:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from naddy@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de) Received: from bigeye.rhein-neckar.de ([193.197.90.235]) by mips.rhein-neckar.de with esmtp id m10oDGL-000WyZC (Debian Smail-3.2.0.101 1997-Dec-17 #2); Sun, 30 May 1999 23:36:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from naddy@localhost) by bigeye.rhein-neckar.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA00738; Sun, 30 May 1999 23:38:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from naddy) Message-Id: <199905302138.XAA00738@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de> Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 23:38:31 +0200 (CEST) From: Christian Weisgerber Reply-To: naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/11955: loader.8: spelling fixes Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11955 >Category: docs >Synopsis: loader.8: spelling fixes >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon May 31 01:30:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Christian Weisgerber >Release: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: >Environment: >Description: There are a couple of obvious spelling errors in sys/boot/i386/loader/loader.8, notably "it's" in place of "its". >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: --- loader.8.orig Sat May 22 15:18:28 1999 +++ loader.8 Sun May 30 23:34:20 1999 @@ -70,7 +70,7 @@ .Va LINES is set to 24 . Next, .Tn FICL -is initialized, the builtin words are added to it's vocabulary, and +is initialized, the builtin words are added to its vocabulary, and .Pa /boot/boot.4th will be processed if it exists. No disk switching is possible while that file is being read. The inner interpreter @@ -106,7 +106,7 @@ will engage interactive mode. .Sh BUILTIN COMMANDS .Nm Loader Ns No 's -builtin commands take it's parameters from the command line. Presently, +builtin commands take its parameters from the command line. Presently, the only way to call them from a script is by using .Pa evaluate on a string. If an error condition occurs, an exception will be @@ -157,7 +157,7 @@ .Pp .It Ic include Ar file Op Ar Process script files. Each file is, at a turn, completely read into -memory, and then have each of it's lines passed to the command line +memory, and then have each of its lines passed to the command line interpreter. If any error is returned by the interpreter, the include commands aborts immediately, without reading any other files, and returns an error itself (see @@ -381,7 +381,7 @@ .El .Ss BUILTIN PARSER When a builtin command is executed, the rest of the line is taken -by it as arguments, and it's processed by a special parser which +by it as arguments, and it is processed by a special parser which is not used for regular Forth commands. .Pp This special parser applies the following rules to the parsed text: @@ -451,7 +451,7 @@ .Em must be passed, even if the builtin accepts no arguments. .Pp -While this behavior has benefits, it has it's trade-offs. If the +While this behavior has benefits, it has its trade-offs. If the execution token of a builtin is acquired (through .Ic No ' or @@ -748,6 +748,6 @@ .Ic expect and .Ic accept -words will read from the input buffer instead of the console. The later +words will read from the input buffer instead of the console. The latter will be fixed, but the former will not. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon May 31 3:29:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from gw.aunet.net.au (unknown [203.41.105.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 252C61539D for ; Mon, 31 May 1999 03:29:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@aunet.net.au) Received: from mic ([203.41.105.150]) by gw.aunet.net.au (8.8.5/8.8.3/BSD4.4) with SMTP id UAA06013 for ; Mon, 31 May 1999 20:32:03 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <002201beab4f$3647e500$966929cb@au2.net> From: "mike" To: Subject: user passwd file Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 20:20:29 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001F_01BEABA3.0708F8C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01BEABA3.0708F8C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Sir: How can find the file for hold the user's password, I want make a clone = system for my existing system, and which files do I need copy from the old system to the new system, = like all under /home user's dir.'s=20 and the password file . can I have some more information for how to = doing this=20 Thanks for your time! 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      Dear Sir:

      How can find the file for hold the user’s password, I want make = a clone=20 system for my existing system,

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      Michael

      mike@aunet.net.au

      <= /BODY> ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01BEABA3.0708F8C0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon May 31 6:45:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from hme0.smtp04.sprint.ca (hme0.smtp04.sprint.ca [207.107.250.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13BC014BF1 for ; Mon, 31 May 1999 06:45:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from offshore99@yahoo.com) Received: from your ([209.148.241.157]) by hme0.smtp04.sprint.ca (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA19792; Mon, 31 May 1999 09:29:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 09:29:43 -0400 (EDT) From: offshore99@yahoo.com Message-Id: <199905311329.JAA19792@hme0.smtp04.sprint.ca> Reply-To: offshore99@yahoo.com To: offshore99@yahoo.com Subject: TIRED OF THE 9 TO 5 YET? Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ladies and Gentlemen, Please pardon the email intrusion. 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To find out more, call Toll Free. 1-800-636-6773 ext. 3886 God bless To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon May 31 8: 0:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from tok.qiv.com (tok.qiv.com [205.238.142.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7961A14BE5 for ; Mon, 31 May 1999 08:00:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdn@acp.qiv.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by tok.qiv.com (MailHost/Current) with UUCP id KAA08656 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 31 May 1999 10:00:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (jdn@localhost) by acp.qiv.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA00523 for ; Mon, 31 May 1999 09:32:21 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jdn@acp.qiv.com) Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 09:32:21 -0500 (CDT) From: Jay Nelson To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sorry, found it explained during jadetex installation In-Reply-To: <19990531072441.A55361@titan.klemm.gtn.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 31 May 1999, Andreas Klemm wrote: [snip] >If people use the metaport, then it should be evident, that jadetex >is primary used for the document project and then the automatic >tuning should be of greater value, than for people, that only want >to use jadetex, with possibly other goals than translating doc >from the document project ? > >Could we agree on that ? On the whole, yes, we can agree. My heartburn with this is that I believe it's bad form for an application to alter another without explicit agreement. That said, this may work: Add a variable to the make file that must be set, e.g., MODIFY_TEXMF similar the the USA_RESIDENT variable for the encryption ports. If not set, the make file will fail in the beginning when the user is paying attention. With a short description of the changes to be made, the user can make an informed decision. The changes should probably be additions like "hash_extra.jadetex=50000", although if the user agreed, it isn't necessary. I haven't played with that form of option much, but they appear to work as advertised. It would also be good form to back up the original configuration and delete the word "original" from the modified file. -- Jay To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon May 31 11: 0:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 704D0151B3 for ; Mon, 31 May 1999 11:00:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id LAA66007 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 31 May 1999 11:00:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 11:00:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905311800.LAA66007@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: peter set sender to owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: FreeBSD doc list Subject: Current unassigned doc problem reports Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Current FreeBSD problem reports The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. Bugs can be in one of several states: o - open A problem report has been submitted, no sanity checking performed. a - analyzed The report has been examined by a team member and evaluated. f - feedback The problem has been solved, and the originator has been given a patch or a fix has been committed. The PR remains in this state pending a response from the originator. s - suspended The problem is not being worked on. This is a prime candidate for somebody who is looking for a project to do. If the problem cannot be solved at all, it will be closed, rather than suspended. c - closed A problem report is closed when any changes have been integrated, documented, and tested. Critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [1999/02/14] docs/10088 doc Documentation search results 1 problem total. Serious problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- a [1999/02/17] docs/10135 doc Change to Documention Regarding Upgrades 1 problem total. Non-critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [1998/04/14] docs/6295 doc Reference to nonexistent file in Device D o [1998/04/15] docs/6307 doc sgmlfmt not `make -jN' ready o [1998/05/18] docs/6681 doc docu. addition a [1998/07/31] docs/7456 doc dialog(3) man page outdated a [1998/08/31] docs/7791 doc ipf(1) and ipfstat(1) should have been ip o [1998/09/13] docs/7914 doc no elf(5) manpage o [1998/10/25] docs/8445 doc Update of "Installing Mathematica on Free o [1999/02/10] docs/10017 doc Added a site and bug fix o [1999/02/11] docs/10038 doc Added a site and bug fix (part two) o [1999/02/14] docs/10084 doc new FreeBSD user group in Yogyakarta City o [1999/02/14] docs/10085 doc NIS Setup Tutorial o [1999/02/14] docs/10098 doc Lack of overall guide for NIS setup o [1999/02/21] docs/10180 doc Another mirror site not listed... o [1999/02/21] docs/10182 doc http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?p o [1999/02/25] docs/10240 doc We need a script which check if our web m o [1999/03/01] docs/10331 doc pccardd(8) claims FreeBSD does not suppor o [1999/03/07] docs/10472 doc Mailing list for discussion of Xircom dri o [1999/03/08] docs/10488 doc Error in entry for 02/27 in calendar.hist o [1999/03/09] docs/10512 doc ENOBUFS returnable from writev(2) but not o [1999/03/18] docs/10659 doc Many syscall man pages have an IMPLEMENTA o [1999/03/18] docs/10660 doc User Group not listed o [1999/03/18] docs/10664 doc Notes on 2.2.8 -> 3.1 migration o [1999/03/23] docs/10762 doc geocrawler.com mailing list archives o [1999/03/29] docs/10850 doc submitting a documentation change for sed o [1999/03/30] docs/10877 doc manpage for objformat incorrectly mention o [1999/04/07] docs/10997 doc Problem with query-pr-summary.cgi o [1999/04/11] docs/11087 doc Portland FreeBSD users group o [1999/04/11] docs/11089 doc freebsd user group, sydney o [1999/04/11] docs/11090 doc User's group in Melbourne Australia o [1999/04/21] docs/11258 doc suggestion to refine npx.4 o [1999/05/09] docs/11607 doc RLIMIT_MEMLOCK not implemented o [1999/05/09] docs/11615 doc Handbook: linux emulation documentation o o [1999/05/11] docs/11643 doc handbook should state alternatives o [1999/05/13] docs/11688 doc clarify send-pr categories... o [1999/05/13] docs/11704 doc Missing subject of 2nd sentence of third o [1999/05/30] docs/11944 doc [Patch] www/en/docproj/current.sgml has c o [1999/05/31] docs/11955 doc loader.8: spelling fixes 37 problems total. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon May 31 12:22:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E446E14D06; Mon, 31 May 1999 12:22:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billf@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from billf@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id MAA72696; Mon, 31 May 1999 12:22:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billf@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 12:22:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199905311922.MAA72696@freefall.freebsd.org> To: naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de, billf@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, dcs@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/11955: loader.8: spelling fixes Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: loader.8: spelling fixes State-Changed-From-To: open->analyzed State-Changed-By: billf State-Changed-When: Mon May 31 12:20:09 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: All of the changes are correct. Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->dcs Responsible-Changed-By: billf Responsible-Changed-When: Mon May 31 12:20:09 PDT 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: Mr. "loader.8" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon May 31 17:27:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (imo14.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9F6214DDE for ; Mon, 31 May 1999 17:27:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Frankie568@aol.com) Received: from Frankie568@aol.com (364) by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id nZFGa02589 for ; Mon, 31 May 1999 20:26:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Frankie568@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 20:26:39 EDT Subject: (no subject) To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org games To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jun 1 1:40: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BDC714DE8 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 01:40:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id BAA48769; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 01:40:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from campino.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.116.240]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F26B014BF9 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 01:34:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kuku@gilberto.physik.RWTH-Aachen.DE) Received: from gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.30.2]) by campino.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1/3) with ESMTP id KAA00942 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 10:34:11 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.9.2/8.6.9) id IAA36074; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 08:34:14 GMT Message-Id: <199906010834.IAA36074@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 08:34:14 GMT From: kuku@freebsd.org Reply-To: kuku@freebsd.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/11974: isinf(3) isninf spelling error? Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11974 >Category: docs >Synopsis: man isinf mentions isninf (which is not shown templated) >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Jun 1 01:40:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Christoph Kukulies >Release: FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE i386 >Organization: freebsd.org >Environment: FreeBSD-3.1-RELEASE >Description: Speaks for itself: ISINF(3) FreeBSD Library Functions Manual ISINF(3) NAME isinf, isnan - test for infinity or not-a-number SYNOPSIS int isinf(double) int isnan(double) DESCRIPTION The isninf() function returns 1 if the number is ``infinity'', otherwise ^^^^^^^ >How-To-Repeat: man isinf man isninf >Fix: correct spelling error or (if function really exists) add a template (prototype) in the SYNOPSIS section. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jun 1 5: 0: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B73F156D5 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 05:00:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id FAA70373; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 05:00:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from axl.noc.iafrica.com (axl.noc.iafrica.com [196.31.1.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EECFC1534B for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 04:50:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sheldonh@axl.noc.iafrica.com) Received: from sheldonh by axl.noc.iafrica.com with local (Exim 3.00 #1) id 10on3K-000BzF-00 for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 01 Jun 1999 13:49:54 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 13:49:54 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn Reply-To: Sheldon Hearn To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/11975: [PATCH] 3.2-stable upgrade kit missing from ports page Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11975 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [PATCH] 3.2-stable upgrade kit missing from ports page >Confidential: no >Severity: serious >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Jun 1 05:00:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Sheldon Hearn >Release: FreeBSD-4.0 >Organization: UUNET Internet Africa >Environment: N/A >Description: The FreeBSD ports web page is missing a reference to the 3.2-stable upgrade kit. >How-To-Repeat: N/A >Fix: The following diff against ports.inc should include the required reference. Index: ports.inc =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/www/en/ports/ports.inc,v retrieving revision 1.37 diff -u -d -r1.37 ports.inc --- ports.inc 1999/04/25 16:56:53 1.37 +++ ports.inc 1999/06/01 11:44:04 @@ -74,13 +74,17 @@ href="ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-3-stable/Latest/31upgrade.tgz">3.1 to 3.1-stable upgrade kit
      For users of 3.1-release or 3.1-stable after 3.1-release +
      3.2 +to 3.2-stable upgrade kit +
      For users of 3.2-release or 3.2-stable after 3.2-release

      These are FreeBSD packages; please use pkg_add to install them. That should enable you to use all the ports listed here. Note that it will only change just enough files to enable ports/packages to be used; for -a full upgrade to 3.1-stable, please refer to the synchronizing your source tree section of the handbook. A full upgrade is recommended, especially if you are still using anything earlier than 2.2.7-release. Also, the >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jun 1 5:48: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69CD914F66; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 05:48:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sheldonh@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from sheldonh@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id FAA74358; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 05:48:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sheldonh@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 05:48:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199906011248.FAA74358@freefall.freebsd.org> To: sheldonh@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, asami@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/11975: [PATCH] 3.2-stable upgrade kit missing from ports page Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: [PATCH] 3.2-stable upgrade kit missing from ports page Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->asami Responsible-Changed-By: sheldonh Responsible-Changed-When: Tue Jun 1 05:47:01 PDT 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: The wraith usually takers care of these. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jun 1 8: 5:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from lumsi.lugansk.ua (lumsi.lugansk.ua [62.244.34.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AF0915085 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 08:04:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from soc.lg.gov.ua!root@soc.lg.gov.ua) Received: from soc.UUCP (uusoc@localhost) by lumsi.lugansk.ua (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id RAA05336 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 17:56:15 +0300 X-Authentication-Warning: lumsi.lugansk.ua: uusoc set sender to soc!soc.lg.gov.ua!root using -f Received: by soc.lg.gov.ua (UUPC/@ v7.00, 07Jan97) id AA04177; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 17:52:48 -0200 (GMT) To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Message-Id: Organization: Upravlenie Sotsialnoy Zashiti From: "root" Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 17:52:48 -0200 (GMT) X-Mailer: dMail [Demos Mail for DOS v2.04d] Subject: Getting 4.4BSD documentation MIME-Version: 1.0 Lines: 7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I need any 4.4BSD User's & Administrator's Guides. Please tell me, where can I get them? Thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jun 1 9: 0: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11C0414E32 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 09:00:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id JAA62118; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 09:00:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from newmail.scitec.com (unknown [198.138.229.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F159814E21 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 08:56:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cjc@scitec.com) Received: from pc252.scitec.com (pc252.scitec.com [198.138.229.204]) by newmail.scitec.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA02553 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 11:58:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from cjc@localhost) by pc252.scitec.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) id LAA09346; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 11:54:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199906011554.LAA09346@pc252.scitec.com> Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 11:54:45 -0400 (EDT) From: cjc@scitec.com Reply-To: cjc@scitec.com To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/11978: timed(8) manpage does not define '-F' switch Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11978 >Category: docs >Synopsis: timed(8) manpage does not define '-F' switch >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Jun 1 09:00:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Crist J. Clark >Release: FreeBSD 2.2.8-STABLE i386 >Organization: >Environment: >Description: The manpage for timed(8) never actually specifies what the '-F' switch does. There are mentions that, "A timed running without the -M or -F flags will remain a slave," and "...use... -F hostname to tell its timed daemon to trust only itself." From this, one might be able to insinuate that the '-F' switch tells the timed process which hosts to trust as masters. However, it never actually says that, and I am not even sure if that is the case. >How-To-Repeat: man timed >Fix: One paragraph inserted into the manpage near the top defining the '-F' switch would be a quick-fix. However, the entire manpage is somewhat poorly organized. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jun 1 10:20:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF62C14EDC for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 10:20:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id KAA71533; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 10:20:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 32767) id 4E13814E63; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 10:13:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <19990601171327.4E13814E63@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 10:13:27 -0700 (PDT) From: phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/11980: Fixes for doc/en/handbook/cutting-edge/chapter.sgml Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11980 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Fixes for doc/en/handbook/cutting-edge/chapter.sgml >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Jun 1 10:20:02 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Alexey M. Zelkin >Release: 4.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: >Environment: >Description: 3.2 RELEASE is not mentioned ports-palm collection is not mentioned >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Index: chapter.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/local/CVSROOT/doc/en/handbook/cutting-edge/chapter.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.17 diff -c -r1.17 chapter.sgml *** chapter.sgml 1999/05/29 13:07:08 1.17 --- chapter.sgml 1999/06/01 14:10:10 *************** *** 529,534 **** --- 529,542 ---- + RELENG_3_2_0_RELEASE + + + FreeBSD-3.2. Not valid for the ports collection. + + + + RELENG_3_1_0_RELEASE *************** *** 1356,1362 **** ! RELENG_3 The line of development for FreeBSD-3.x, also known as --- 1364,1370 ---- ! tag=RELENG_3 The line of development for FreeBSD-3.x, also known as *************** *** 1366,1372 **** ! RELENG_2_2 The line of development for FreeBSD-2.2.x, also known --- 1374,1380 ---- ! tag=RELENG_2_2 The line of development for FreeBSD-2.2.x, also known *************** *** 1390,1395 **** --- 1398,1412 ---- + tag=RELENG_3_2_0_RELEASE + + + FreeBSD-3.2. Not valid for the ports-* + collections. + + + + tag=RELENG_3_1_0_RELEASE *************** *** 2017,2022 **** --- 2034,2048 ---- + + ports-palm + release=cvs + + + Software support for 3Com Palm(tm) series. + + + ports-plan9 release=cvs >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jun 1 15: 2:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nwcst314.netaddress.usa.net (unknown [204.68.23.59]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 968F71511F for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 15:02:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesus.monroy@usa.net) Received: (qmail 9917 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Jun 1999 22:02:07 -0000 Message-ID: <19990601220207.9916.qmail@nwcst314.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.23.59 by nwcst314 via web-mailer(M3.0.0.135) on Tue Jun 1 22:02:07 GMT 1999 Date: 1 Jun 99 15:02:07 PDT From: Jesus Monroy To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Errata addition for handbook X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (M3.0.0.135) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sorry this bounce after I sent it to the wrong = e-address. Here it is. > From: jesus.monroy@usa.net (Jesus Monroy, Jr.) > To: docs@freebsd.org, max@idfw.com > Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc > Subject: Errata addition for handbook > Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 19:13:26 GMT > X-Mailer: Forte Free Agent 1.11/32.235 > = > If you respond to this, please trim you "reply" line. > = > On Tue, 1 Jun 1999 07:12:43 -0500, "Max Files" wrote: > = > >This is a great idea, but unfortunately you only redirect people > >to the same web pages where all the bum information exists. > > > >For example, I am trying to get a Panasonic KX-P3626 dot > >matrix printer hooked up to my FreeBSD 3.2 server. The docs > >say to type this command: > > > > lptcontrol -i -u N > > > Thank you for makin that comment. I'll make sure to add that > to that information and correction to my web page. > Additionally, I've sent a copy of this to the documentation > team. (This means I've also changed the subject line.) > If you respond to this, please trim you "reply" line. > = > >Well, truth be known this will only cause an error message to be > >displayed because the is no such parameter -u for this command. > >I was really hoping someone could steer me to some accurate > >information, not just get hits so you can charge your sponsors. > > > Actually, if you look at: > = > http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Hub/8031/how-to/how2lp.html > = > You'll see the new uncompleted "HOW-TO", I'm still culling my > notes for accurate information. = > = > I agree with you that much information is flawed and this one > reason I an working on the "HOW-TO". I posted what I had > because, trying to find something on the FreeBSD website > is a major pain. I am hoping this page will be of some help. > = > As for my "sponsors", if you have an issue with banner ads, then > I've posted the information also at: > = > http://www.mozie.com/projects/how-to/how2lp-presort.html > http://www.mozie.com/projects/how-to/how2lp.html = > = > = > Any other suggestions, gladly accepted. :-) > = > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > > >Jesus Monroy, Jr. wrote in message <3753a394.47148689@news.pacbell.net= >... > >>Prelude to: How to setup a printer in FreeBSD > >> > >>Pre-sorted Search at http://www.freebsd.org. > >>http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Hub/8031/how-to/how2lp-presort= =2Ehtml > >> > >> > >>-- > >>If you have to read the docs, it's broken. > >>I hate making mistakes. > >>You can check my spelling at: > >http://work.ucsd.edu:5141/cgi-bin/http_webster > >> > > > > > = > -- > If you have to read the docs, it's broken. > I hate making mistakes. > You can check my spelling at: http://work.ucsd.edu:5141/cgi-bin/http_we= bster --- IN that context, it is the BSD that should be considered, not the prefix. http://minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au/cgi-bin/newsread?34858 ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=3D= 1 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jun 1 15: 3:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nwcst314.netaddress.usa.net (unknown [204.68.23.59]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1245015841 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 15:02:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesus.monroy@usa.net) Received: (qmail 9963 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Jun 1999 22:02:37 -0000 Message-ID: <19990601220237.9962.qmail@nwcst314.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.23.59 by nwcst314 via web-mailer(M3.0.0.135) on Tue Jun 1 22:02:37 GMT 1999 Date: 1 Jun 99 15:02:37 PDT From: Jesus Monroy To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender] X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (M3.0.0.135) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sorry this bounce after I sent it to the wrong = e-address. Here it is. > From: jesus.monroy@usa.net (Jesus Monroy, Jr.) > To: docs@freebsd.org, max@idfw.com > Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc > Subject: Errata addition for handbook > Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 19:13:26 GMT > X-Mailer: Forte Free Agent 1.11/32.235 > = > If you respond to this, please trim you "reply" line. > = > On Tue, 1 Jun 1999 07:12:43 -0500, "Max Files" wrote: > = > >This is a great idea, but unfortunately you only redirect people > >to the same web pages where all the bum information exists. > > > >For example, I am trying to get a Panasonic KX-P3626 dot > >matrix printer hooked up to my FreeBSD 3.2 server. The docs > >say to type this command: > > > > lptcontrol -i -u N > > > Thank you for makin that comment. I'll make sure to add that > to that information and correction to my web page. > Additionally, I've sent a copy of this to the documentation > team. (This means I've also changed the subject line.) > If you respond to this, please trim you "reply" line. > = > >Well, truth be known this will only cause an error message to be > >displayed because the is no such parameter -u for this command. > >I was really hoping someone could steer me to some accurate > >information, not just get hits so you can charge your sponsors. > > > Actually, if you look at: > = > http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Hub/8031/how-to/how2lp.html > = > You'll see the new uncompleted "HOW-TO", I'm still culling my > notes for accurate information. = > = > I agree with you that much information is flawed and this one > reason I an working on the "HOW-TO". I posted what I had > because, trying to find something on the FreeBSD website > is a major pain. I am hoping this page will be of some help. > = > As for my "sponsors", if you have an issue with banner ads, then > I've posted the information also at: > = > http://www.mozie.com/projects/how-to/how2lp-presort.html > http://www.mozie.com/projects/how-to/how2lp.html = > = > = > Any other suggestions, gladly accepted. :-) > = > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > > >Jesus Monroy, Jr. wrote in message <3753a394.47148689@news.pacbell.net= >... > >>Prelude to: How to setup a printer in FreeBSD > >> > >>Pre-sorted Search at http://www.freebsd.org. > >>http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Hub/8031/how-to/how2lp-presort= =2Ehtml > >> > >> > >>-- > >>If you have to read the docs, it's broken. > >>I hate making mistakes. > >>You can check my spelling at: > >http://work.ucsd.edu:5141/cgi-bin/http_webster > >> > > > > > = > -- > If you have to read the docs, it's broken. > I hate making mistakes. > You can check my spelling at: http://work.ucsd.edu:5141/cgi-bin/http_we= bster --- IN that context, it is the BSD that should be considered, not the prefix. http://minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au/cgi-bin/newsread?34858 ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=3D= 1 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jun 1 16: 4:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from uwcunx.uwc.ac.za (unknown [196.11.235.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F19715115 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 16:04:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dsigasa@uwc.ac.za) Received: from itsnw.uwc.ac.za (itsnw.uwc.ac.za [192.102.9.48]) by uwcunx.uwc.ac.za (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA25377 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 01:04:09 +0200 (SAT) Received: from ITS#u#GW-Message_Server by itsnw.uwc.ac.za with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 02 Jun 1999 01:00:36 +0200 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 01:00:29 +0200 From: ISAAC SIGASA To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.ORG Subject: Reconfiguring the kernel to include QCam Device Driver Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ** High Priority ** ** Reply Requested When Convenient ** I am running FreeBSD 2.2.6 and having the color QuickCam VC. I wish to use this camera with your driver that is included on the distribution disks. How do I recompile the kernel to get the driver working? Please give the information step by step, i.e. what must I type at the command-line. You advice will be highly appreciated wiht this regard. Most sincerly. Isaac Email addresses: 9639519@uwc.ac.za isigasa@yahoo.com Isaac Doctor Sigasa University of the Western Cape Hector Petersen Residence - J21 Private Bag X79 BELLVILLE 7535 Tel.: (021) 952-6140 -- Request me @ J21 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jun 2 5: 7:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BB1415137; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 05:07:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesusr@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from jesusr@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id FAA81788; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 05:07:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesusr@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 05:07:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199906021207.FAA81788@freefall.freebsd.org> To: jesusr@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, jesusr@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/11980: Fixes for doc/en/handbook/cutting-edge/chapter.sgml Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Fixes for doc/en/handbook/cutting-edge/chapter.sgml Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->jesusr Responsible-Changed-By: jesusr Responsible-Changed-When: Wed Jun 2 05:07:08 PDT 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: Working it. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jun 2 18:25:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp4.erols.com (smtp4.erols.com [207.172.3.237]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA77F15376; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 18:25:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jobaldwi@vt.edu) Received: from john.baldwin.cx (207-172-144-30.s30.as4.hgt.md.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.144.30]) by smtp4.erols.com (8.8.8/smtp-v1) with ESMTP id VAA26800; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 21:25:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 21:26:03 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: nik@freebsd.org, doc@freebsd.org Subject: DocBook 3.1 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Nik, Do we have a timeline for moving to DocBook 3.1? I've succesfully built the HTML versions of the Handbook and FDP using a freebsd DTD that extended 3.1 nad it worked fine as far as I can tell. Is there any interest in doing this soon? --- John Baldwin -- http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/ PGP Key: http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jun 2 18:51:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from istari.home.net (cc158233-a.catv1.md.home.com [24.3.25.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A44E014DF3 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 18:51:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sjr@home.net) Received: (from sjr@localhost) by istari.home.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA12813 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 21:51:48 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from sjr) Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 21:51:48 -0400 (EDT) From: "Stephen J. Roznowski" Message-Id: <199906030151.VAA12813@istari.home.net> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Suggested enhancement to y2kbug.sgml page Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've been looking at adding the following section to the Y2K bug web page (patch below). Basically, this adds a letter in front of each problem report, and creates a little table showing compliance. However, after doing this, it doesn't seem like it would be very useful (since most of the problems weren't fixed until the most recent releases). Also, I was unsure of where -STABLE releases fit in this timeline. So...... I'm looking for some feedback whether the attached is worth pursuing... Thanks, -SR --- en/y2kbug.sgml.orig Wed May 19 21:15:06 1999 +++ en/y2kbug.sgml Wed May 19 22:13:18 1999 @@ -74,13 +74,23 @@ FreeBSD project

      +

      Release information

      +

      + Individual releases (without any additional patches) have the following + problems: +

      +Previous releases, FreeBSD 2.1.5 - A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O
      +FreeBSD 2.1.6, 2.1.7, 2.2, 2.2.1, 2.2.2 - A, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O
      +FreeBSD 2.2.5, 2.2.6, 2.2.7, 2.2.8, 3.0 - A, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O
      +FreeBSD 3.1, FreeBSD 3.2 - K
      +

      Fixed problems

      The following Y2K problems have been identified and fixed in FreeBSD.

      -
      A. misc/1380
      Several programs have a hardcoded 19%d in responses for the year. Affected programs include: yacc, ftpd, and make. @@ -88,21 +98,21 @@ make v1.4 1996/10/06]
      -
      B. conf/1382
      The sed script in /etc/rc.local that builds the host/kernel ID line for the message of the day relies on the year not going past 1999.[Fixed v1.21 1996/10/24]
      -
      C. misc/3465
      The etc/namedb/make-localhost command generates the DNS serial number as YYMMDD. In the year 2000, this will be generated as 1YYMMDD.[Fixed v1.2 1997/08/11]
      -
      D. gnu/4930 and gnu/8321
      groff tmac macros have hardcoded 19 for generating some dates. @@ -110,27 +120,27 @@
      -
      bin/9323
      +
      E. bin/9323
      In its obsolescent form, touch doesn't treat the two digit year year specification correctly. Years in the range 00-68 are treated as 1900-1968 instead of 2000-2068.[Fixed v1.7 1999/01/05]
      -
      xntpd/parse/util/dcfd.c
      +
      F. xntpd/parse/util/dcfd.c
      The leap year calculations for the number of days in a year, and the conversion of DCF77 time to seconds since the Epoch were wrong. These errors affected all years.[Fixed v1.6 1999/01/12]
      -
      tar/getdate.y
      +
      G. tar/getdate.y
      Function Convert() was hard-coded for two digit years in range 70-99. Now adjusted to allow two digit years for 1970-2069. The function does not allow for century non-leap years - y2k1 alert! [Fixed v1.4 1999/01/12]
      -
      fetch/http.c
      +
      H. fetch/http.c
      The HTTP protocol includes an obsolete date format which uses a two-digit year. Previous versions of fetch would interpret all such dates in the 1900s; subsequent to this revision, the pivot described @@ -142,14 +152,14 @@ to have a significant impact.[Fixed v1.24 1999/01/15]
      -
      I. misc/9500
      The `edithook' script in the CVSROOT directory uses a raw tm_year and will therefore display 01/01/100 for 2000-JAN-01. [Fixed v1.2 1999/01/17]
      -
      J. bin/9501
      Several cvs contrib files are not Y2K compliant. The log.pl and sccs2rcs.csh scripts prepend `19' to the year @@ -160,32 +170,32 @@ [Fixed: log.pl v1.2 1999/01/15; sccs2rcs.csh v1.3 1999/01/15]
      -
      K. bin/9502
      The groff number register `yr' is assigned from a (struct tm).tm_year and therefore represents the number of years since 1900, not the year within the century (see definition in troff/input.cc).
      -
      L. bin/9503
      PicoBSD's simple_httpd uses a raw tm_year and will therefore display 01/01/100 for 2000-JAN-01.[Fixed v1.2 1999/01/16]
      -
      M. bin/9505
      Adduser uses a raw tm_year and will therefore display 100/01/01 for 2000-JAN-01.[Fixed v1.42 1999/01/15]
      -
      N. bin/9506
      Cron uses a raw tm_year and will therefore display 100 for 2000. [Fixed v1.7 1999/01/16]
      -
      O. bin/9507
      tcpslice(8) uses a raw tm_year and will therefore display 100y01m01d... for 2000-JAN-01. For compatibility, use a two-digit To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jun 2 21:58:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.email.msn.com (cpimssmtpu10.smtp.email.msn.com [207.46.181.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 175C614E7A for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 21:58:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fromrochny@email.msn.com) Received: from default - 208.254.92.86 by email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 21:58:14 -0700 Message-ID: <000501bead7d$34c38a60$565cfed0@default> From: "David Shafer" To: Subject: My FreeBSD Experience Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 23:54:40 -0500 Organization: Duley Hopkins and Associates X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Well, I gave it "the old college try." Didn't work. Followed all the instructions; downloaded the files in the /bin directory and copied them to floppies (shouldn't think I'd have to buy a CD from Walnut Grove or anyone else; FreeBSD is free, right? Or is it?). After partitioning my hard-drive and so on I got a cryptic error as soon as I tried to load the OS from the floppies. Message said something like "choose NO from the next panel." There was no next panel and from that point on the option to install from floppies (or anything else, for that matter) was never re-presented. After a few more attempts I quit. Huge waste of time. When FreeBSD is "ready for prime time" I'll try it again. In the meantime, I'll stick with Windows, warts and all. To paraphrase Charles Dickens, Mr. Bill Gates may be "a grasping, covetous old sinner" but his OS does install. David Shafer 4627 Kellykris Drive St. Charles, MO 63304 United States fromrochny@email.msn.com 314-936-0206 P.S. I'm a professional programmer and I've worked on HP-UX and Solaris systems so I really do have an inkling of what I'm doing. IMHP, FreeBSD just doesn't cut it right now. Publish this if you dare. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jun 2 22:39:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (phoenix.welearn.com.au [139.130.44.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 374DD14C3A for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 22:39:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sue@phoenix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from sue@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.0) id PAA04427; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 15:39:28 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <19990603153923.27985@welearn.com.au> Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 15:39:23 +1000 From: Sue Blake To: David Shafer Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: My FreeBSD Experience References: <000501bead7d$34c38a60$565cfed0@default> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88e In-Reply-To: <000501bead7d$34c38a60$565cfed0@default>; from David Shafer on Wed, Jun 02, 1999 at 11:54:40PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Jun 02, 1999 at 11:54:40PM -0500, David Shafer wrote: > Well, I gave it "the old college try." Didn't work. Followed all the > instructions; downloaded the files in the /bin directory and copied them to > floppies (shouldn't think I'd have to buy a CD from Walnut Grove or anyone > else; FreeBSD is free, right? Or is it?). After partitioning my hard-drive > and so on I got a cryptic error as soon as I tried to load the OS from the > floppies. Message said something like "choose NO from the next panel." > There was no next panel and from that point on the option to install from > floppies (or anything else, for that matter) was never re-presented. After > a few more attempts I quit. Huge waste of time. > > When FreeBSD is "ready for prime time" I'll try it again. In the meantime, > I'll stick with Windows, warts and all. To paraphrase Charles Dickens, Mr. > Bill Gates may be "a grasping, covetous old sinner" but his OS does install. Hi, I'm one of the Documentation Project volunteers and your message appeared on our mailing list. You're likely to get all sorts of responses now, from the thousands of happy FreeBSD users who read these lists. A lot of very knoledgeable volunteers here spend hours each day helping people and writing and editing documentation, as well as maintaining FreeBSD itself. Naturally some of them will feel a little slighted by your conclusions when you didn't even ask for help. It is also natural for you to react the way you did, after having invested so much effort in an exciting project and finding that you couldn't reach the end point. These reactions, as intense as they may be at the time, usually pass fairly quickly. A bit of understanding on both sides helps a lot, and this can't happen until people communicate. You had a bad experience and were probably feeling too frustrated to ask for help, but someone will help you anyway if you decide you want to try again. Some of us here want to understand what went wrong, because you have given few details. Sure, it could be a bug, or something misleading in the documentation, some hardware that FreeBSD does not support, or the teensiest little imperfection in one of the huge stack of floppy disks you must have had to use. If you do want to explore this further, even just for your own curiosity, write to our support mailing list, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, giving as much information as possible. The people at freebsd-questions give excellent advice, for no charge, simply because they want to. (Hint: If you make them feel bad they won't be so keen, so it might be an idea to sleep on it first and write an email that really helps them to help you.) It will be easier if you glance at these first for ideas: http://www.welearn.com.au/freebsd/newbies/ http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html > P.S. I'm a professional programmer and I've worked on HP-UX and Solaris > systems so I really do have an inkling of what I'm doing. IMHP, FreeBSD > just doesn't cut it right now. Publish this if you dare. Eek, I wonder if you've ever installed those from floppy disks! I had to install a floppy disk version of MS-Office once, and I growled at everybody for days afterwards :-) -- Regards, -*Sue*- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jun 3 2:41:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from leap.innerx.net (leap.innerx.net [38.179.176.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A55114F2E for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 02:41:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@holly.dyndns.org) Received: from holly.dyndns.org (ip137.houston2.tx.pub-ip.psi.net [38.11.201.137]) by leap.innerx.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C9EE37067; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 05:41:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA40043; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 04:41:28 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from chris) Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 04:41:27 -0500 From: Chris Costello To: Sue Blake Cc: David Shafer , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: My FreeBSD Experience Message-ID: <19990603044127.F38175@holly.dyndns.org> Reply-To: chris@calldei.com References: <000501bead7d$34c38a60$565cfed0@default> <19990603153923.27985@welearn.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.2i In-Reply-To: <19990603153923.27985@welearn.com.au>; from Sue Blake on Thu, Jun 03, 1999 at 03:39:23PM +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Jun 3, 1999, Sue Blake wrote: > Eek, I wonder if you've ever installed those from floppy disks! > I had to install a floppy disk version of MS-Office once, and I growled > at everybody for days afterwards :-) As a response to both the original complaint and yourself, I've installed Windows 95 from floppies. Combine the 'media errors' with the 'put in disk 1, 3, 7, and jump on the area in your lawn with the most dense grass' and it tends to give the installer a headache. You're much better off installing it off the CD, or via FTP (or even via NFS)! -- Chris Costello It is easier to change the specification to fit the program than vice versa. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jun 3 4:34: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp11.bellglobal.com (smtp11.bellglobal.com [204.101.251.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D3F915012 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 04:34:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vanderh@ecf.toronto.edu) Received: from localhost.nowhere (ppp18390.on.bellglobal.com [206.172.130.70]) by smtp11.bellglobal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA16551; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 07:36:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from tim@localhost) by localhost.nowhere (8.9.3/8.9.1) id HAA04902; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 07:34:32 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from tim) Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 07:34:31 -0400 From: Tim Vanderhoek To: David Shafer Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: My FreeBSD Experience Message-ID: <19990603073431.B4761@mad> References: <000501bead7d$34c38a60$565cfed0@default> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: <000501bead7d$34c38a60$565cfed0@default>; from David Shafer on Wed, Jun 02, 1999 at 11:54:40PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Jun 02, 1999 at 11:54:40PM -0500, David Shafer wrote: > > P.S. I'm a professional programmer and I've worked on HP-UX and Solaris > systems so I really do have an inkling of what I'm doing. IMHP, FreeBSD > just doesn't cut it right now. Publish this if you dare. Nah, we got lots of these messages every day and publishing them got boring after a while. ;) Anyways, it sounds like you did something wrong since I can't envision any other problems that would cause what you described. Hmm... You didn't download your floppies through msn.com (a-la your email address), did you? [Potentially libelious comment edited]. ;-) -- This is my .signature which gets appended to the end of my messages. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jun 3 12:35: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3B6214FB2; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 12:34:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) id UAA42924; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 20:33:26 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 20:33:26 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: John Baldwin Cc: nik@freebsd.org, doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DocBook 3.1 Message-ID: <19990603203326.B31941@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: ; from John Baldwin on Wed, Jun 02, 1999 at 09:26:03PM -0400 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Jun 02, 1999 at 09:26:03PM -0400, John Baldwin wrote: > Do we have a timeline for moving to DocBook 3.1? Yeah. About 30 minutes :-) It's just popped to the top of my ToDo list, and I'm doing it now. Commits will follow very soon. N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jun 3 12:35:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C754C14FB2 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 12:34:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) id TAA37610; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 19:50:27 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 19:50:27 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Nik Clayton Cc: doc@freebsd.org, freebsd-translate@ngo.org.uk Subject: Re: FDP Directory Reorganisation Message-ID: <19990603195027.A31941@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19990513211458.B70767@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990513211458.B70767@catkin.nothing-going-on.org>; from Nik Clayton on Thu, May 13, 1999 at 09:14:58PM +0100 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, May 13, 1999 at 09:14:58PM +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: > The FreeBSD Documentation Project (FDP) directory structure has grown > haphazardly over time. This was tolerable when the FDP repository only > contained English versions of the documentation. However, as more > translations are added to the repository it becomes important to have > a consistent directory naming scheme followed by each translation. I haven't been sleeping on this. The CVS Repository maintainers (Peter Wemm and John Polstra) are both too busy to deal with the changes required at the moment. According to John the week beginning the 14th June is the earliest they will get to it. N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jun 3 12:52:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 148FA159AA for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 12:52:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA55868; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 12:53:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: "David Shafer" Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: My FreeBSD Experience In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 02 Jun 1999 23:54:40 CDT." <000501bead7d$34c38a60$565cfed0@default> Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 12:53:19 -0700 Message-ID: <55864.928439599@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > When FreeBSD is "ready for prime time" I'll try it again. In the meantime, > I'll stick with Windows, warts and all. To paraphrase Charles Dickens, Mr. > Bill Gates may be "a grasping, covetous old sinner" but his OS does install. Comments like this are unhelpful. FreeBSD installs just fine and I and many many thousands of other folks install it all the time. Given the most elementary laws of statistics, I have to assume that the fault is yours (in fact, I'd bet money on it). Unfortunately, you don't give us enough detail on the failure to tell you precisely where you screwed it up. > P.S. I'm a professional programmer and I've worked on HP-UX and Solaris > systems so I really do have an inkling of what I'm doing. IMHP, FreeBSD Based on the content and tone of this message, I have to say that I have serious doubts about the veracity of this statement. Nonetheless, if sticking with Windows is your bag then I can only suggest that you stick with it. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jun 3 17:24:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0014814E7A; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 17:24:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from mjacob@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id RAA53283; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 17:24:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@FreeBSD.org) Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 17:24:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199906040024.RAA53283@freefall.freebsd.org> To: mjacob@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, mjacob@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/6681: Tapes written on 2.2.8 not readable on 3.2 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Old Synopsis: docu. addition New Synopsis: Tapes written on 2.2.8 not readable on 3.2 Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->mjacob Responsible-Changed-By: mjacob Responsible-Changed-When: Thu Jun 3 17:22:26 PDT 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: I own the tape driver To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jun 4 1:31:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail4.sirius.com (mail4.sirius.com [205.134.253.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3933314E77 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 01:31:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freepix@sirius.com) Received: from JASONS (ppp-frx201--022.sirius.net [205.134.236.22]) by mail4.sirius.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id BAA01015 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 01:31:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <4.1.19990604013027.00c07de0@mail.sirius.com> X-Sender: freepix@mail.sirius.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 01:30:56 -0700 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG From: Jason Scott Subject: Fwd: Returned mail: Service unavailable Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Why are messages not being accepted?

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      The following is displayed (printed) on the server screen every time it starts up:

      Jun  2 00:13:45 jason savecore: reboot after panic: ^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?= ^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?= ^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?= ^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?= ^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?= ^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?= ^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?= ^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?= ^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?= ^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?= ^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?= ^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?= ^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?^?


      It happened once when the server was shutdown incorrectly, and it has never gone away..
      Can anyone suggest how to fix/remove this?

      Thank You...

      To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jun 4 3:11:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from leap.innerx.net (leap.innerx.net [38.179.176.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD71014D9E for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 03:11:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@holly.dyndns.org) Received: from holly.dyndns.org (ip137.houston2.tx.pub-ip.psi.net [38.11.201.137]) by leap.innerx.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2D213706C; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 06:11:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA43738; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 05:11:12 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from chris) Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 05:11:11 -0500 From: Chris Costello To: Jason Scott Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fwd: Returned mail: Service unavailable Message-ID: <19990604051111.A43716@holly.dyndns.org> Reply-To: chris@calldei.com References: <4.1.19990604013027.00c07de0@mail.sirius.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.2i In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990604013027.00c07de0@mail.sirius.com>; from Jason Scott on Fri, Jun 04, 1999 at 01:30:56AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Jun 4, 1999, Jason Scott wrote: (and attached HTML...) The reason your emails are not being accepted is because the entire domain, earthlink.net, was blocked, because it knowingly permits spam to pass through their mail relays, and has denied to do anything about it. Their excuse is that "We don't want to take down our system and lose service to our users," which I, personally, know, is complete BS, if done right (about 1 second downtime at 2AM). -- Chris Costello Maintenance free: It's impossible to fix. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jun 4 5:22:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from bse.bse.bg (bse.bse.bg [195.138.140.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91E8F1507E for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 05:22:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hristo@bg.freebsd.org) Received: from nic.bse.bg (nic.bse.bg [195.138.140.5]) by bse.bse.bg (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id OAA15585 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 14:54:49 +0300 Received: from localhost (hristo@localhost) by nic.bse.bg (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA44213 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 14:54:35 +0300 (EEST) Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 14:54:35 +0300 (EEST) From: Hristo Grigorov X-Sender: hristo@nic.bse.bg To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: doc translation Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Greetings, we here are interesting in translating FreeBSD docs into Bulgarian language. At the beginning we will try to translate FAQ section. So, could you please point us to the best way to do that ? Thank you! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jun 4 7:40: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3CAB14EAE for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 07:40:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id HAA52428; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 07:40:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from vedanix.welearn.com.au (vedanix.welearn.com.au [203.35.200.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDC9514E73 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 07:37:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sue@vedanix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from sue@localhost) by vedanix.welearn.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA13923; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 00:46:47 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from sue) Message-Id: <199906041446.AAA13923@vedanix.welearn.com.au> Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 00:46:47 +1000 (EST) From: sue@welearn.com.au Reply-To: sue@welearn.com.au To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/12021: support.sgml Sydney UG update Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 12021 >Category: docs >Synopsis: support.sgml Sydney UG update >Confidential: yes >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Jun 4 07:40:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Sue Blake >Release: FreeBSD 2.2.6-STABLE i386 >Organization: BUGS >Environment: >Description: New contact information for BUGS >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: --- support.sgml.old Sat Jun 5 00:29:22 1999 +++ support.sgml Sat Jun 5 00:44:24 1999 @@ -243,12 +243,11 @@

    • Sydney, NSW. The BSD User Group, Sydney (BUGS) - was formed in April 1999 and will have its first meeting on Sunday 16 - May at midday at the Kwantung Palace Chinese restaurant on the corner of - Government Rd (off Pacific Highway) and Pound Rd, Hornsby, approximately - 100m south of Hornsby Station. Be there, eat, get to know each other - and plan the rest of your lives.

      + HREF="http://www.bugs.au.freebsd.org/">BSD Users Group, Sydney (BUGS) + meets in Sydney every two months starting May 1999 and has mailing list + members from all over NSW. To join the mailing list send a message to + majordomo@bugs.au.freebsd.org + with subscribe bugs in the body of the message.
    • Victoria. Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jun 4 11:20: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D8EC1553E for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 11:20:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id LAA73882; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 11:20:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from cylphia.cmxs.bbs (ppp069.sensyu.ne.jp [210.154.132.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F7A715AC3 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 11:10:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alumina@sensyu.ne.jp) Received: (from alumina@localhost) by cylphia.cmxs.bbs (8.9.2/3.7W) id DAA48689; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 03:11:29 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199906041811.DAA48689@cylphia.cmxs.bbs> Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 03:11:29 +0900 (JST) From: alumina@sensyu.ne.jp Reply-To: alumina@sensyu.ne.jp To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/12023: cam_get_device(3) return value is not consensus to manual. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 12023 >Category: docs >Synopsis: cam_get_device(3) function return-value is different.(man&src) >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Jun 4 11:20:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Yoshiji Emoto >Release: FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE i386 >Organization: I'm free now. >Environment: >Description: cam_get_device(3) function return-value is different. manual: normal case is 0, fail case is -1. source: normal case is 1, fail case is 0. >How-To-Repeat: none. >Fix: manual and source-code, either right? >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jun 4 15:52:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84D4A15B9B; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 15:52:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id PAA93408; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 15:52:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 15:52:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199906042252.PAA93408@freefall.freebsd.org> To: wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/10088: Documentation search results Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Documentation search results State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Fri Jun 4 15:51:56 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: This request has been noted on the Projects page. Hopefully someone will be inclined to pick it up. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jun 5 2:50: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 037A714E5A for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 02:50:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id CAA32303; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 02:50:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp05.wxs.nl (smtp05.wxs.nl [195.121.6.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E7EB14CC3 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 02:44:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.54.95]) by smtp05.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with ESMTP id AAA5B8 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 11:44:55 +0200 Received: (from asmodai@localhost) by daemon.ninth-circle.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA16318; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 11:45:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from asmodai) Message-Id: <199906050945.LAA16318@daemon.ninth-circle.org> Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 11:45:41 +0200 (CEST) From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/12030: update of intro(2)/errno Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 12030 >Category: docs >Synopsis: update of intro(2)/errno >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat Jun 5 02:50:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven >Release: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: Ninth-Circle Enterprises >Environment: FreeBSD daemon.ninth-circle.org 4.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT #3: Thu Jun 3 16:59:10 CEST 1999 asmodai@daemon.ninth-circle.org:/work/FreeBSD/src/sys/compile/DAEMON i386 >Description: update of intro(2)/errno(2) in the ongoing effort of the Programmer's Documentation Project >How-To-Repeat: man 2 intro/man 2 errno >Fix: --- src/lib/libc/sys/intro.2.orig Sun Mar 14 21:57:48 1999 +++ src/lib/libc/sys/intro.2 Thu Jun 3 22:42:50 1999 @@ -417,6 +417,31 @@ .It Er 78 ENOSYS Em "Function not implemented" . Attempted a system call that is not available on this system. +.It Er 79 EFTYPE Em "Inappropriate file type or format" . +The file was the wrong type for the operation, or a data file had +the wrong format. +.It Er 80 EAUTH Em "Authentication error" . +Attempted to use an invalid authentication ticket to mount a +.Tn NFS +filesystem. +.It Er 81 ENEEDAUTH Em "Need authenticator" . +An authentication ticket must be obtained before the given +.Tn NFS +filesystem may be mounted. +.It Er 82 EIDRM Em "Identifier removed" . +An IPC identifier was removed while the current process was waiting on it. +.It Er 83 ENOMSG Em "No message of desired type" . +An IPC message queue does not contain a message of the desired type, or a +message catalog does not contain the requested message. +.It Er 84 EOVERFLOW Em "Value too large to be stored in data type" . +A numerical result of the function was too large to be stored in the caller +provided space. +.It Er 85 ECANCELED Em "Operation canceled" . +The scheduled operation was canceled. +.It Er 86 EILSEQ Em "Illegal byte sequence" . +While decoding a multibyte character the function came along an +invalid or an incomplete sequence of bytes or the given wide +character is invalid. .Sh DEFINITIONS .Bl -tag -width Ds .It Process ID . >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jun 5 4:23:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from news.ks.edu.tw (news.ks.edu.tw [163.16.1.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB4BD14C88 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 04:23:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from foxfair@news.ks.edu.tw) Received: from foxfair (tnt-133.ks.edu.tw [163.16.5.192]) by news.ks.edu.tw (8.9.3/8.9.2) with SMTP id TAA09898 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 19:12:38 +0800 (CST) (envelope-from foxfair@news.ks.edu.tw) Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 19:36:04 +0800 From: Foxfair Hu To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FDP Directory Reorganisation Message-Id: <37590BA428.85EBFOXFAIR@news.ks.edu.tw> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver 1.25.04 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Nik, Please keep this note when change the directory : I'm going to change the Chinese localen name from zh.TW_BIG5 to zh.TW_Big5. And I'm testing the changes and waiting the feedback, after that I'll commit thosechanges. Cheers, -Foxfair. On Fri Jun 4 02:50:27 1999, Nik Clayton wrote: : :I haven't been sleeping on this. The CVS Repository maintainers (Peter :Wemm and John Polstra) are both too busy to deal with the changes :required at the moment. According to John the week beginning the 14th :June :is the earliest they will get to it. : :N To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jun 5 5:20: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B4A715081 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 05:20:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id FAA42622; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 05:20:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from soleil.uvsq.fr (soleil.uvsq.fr [193.51.24.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCFE214FF0 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 05:14:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from card@ens.uvsq.fr) Received: from atlas.ens.uvsq.fr (root@atlas.ens.uvsq.fr [193.51.26.1]) by soleil.uvsq.fr (8.9.3/jtpda-5.3.2) with ESMTP id OAA07695 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 14:14:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from alsace.ens.uvsq.fr (alsace.ens.uvsq.fr [193.51.26.20]) by atlas.ens.uvsq.fr (8.8.8/jtpda-5.2) with ESMTP id OAA03515 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 14:14:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from (card@localhost) by alsace.ens.uvsq.fr (8.9.3/jtpda-5.2) id OAA72568 ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 14:14:51 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <199906051214.OAA72568@alsace.ens.uvsq.fr> Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 14:14:51 +0200 (CEST) From: card@csi.uvsq.fr Reply-To: card@csi.uvsq.fr To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/12031: /usr/share/examples/diskless missing on 3.2 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 12031 >Category: docs >Synopsis: /usr/share/examples/diskless does not exist on 3.2-RELEASE >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat Jun 5 05:20:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Remy Card >Release: FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE i386 >Organization: CSI - UVSQ >Environment: >Description: The script /etc/rc.diskless1 references example files in the directory /usr/share/examples/diskless, but this directory does not exist on 3.2 systems. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Integrate /usr/src/share/examples/diskless/* into the RELENG_3 branch. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jun 5 7:27:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.kt.rim.or.jp (mail.kt.rim.or.jp [202.247.130.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2128E1550F for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 07:27:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kuriyama@sky.rim.or.jp) Received: from moon.sky.rim.or.jp (ppp365.kt.rim.or.jp [202.247.140.65]) by mail.kt.rim.or.jp (8.8.8/3.6W-RIMNET-98-06-09) with ESMTP id XAA03824; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 23:26:54 +0900 (JST) Received: from sky.rim.or.jp (earth.sky.rim.or.jp [192.168.1.2]) by moon.sky.rim.or.jp (8.8.8/3.5Wpl4/moon-1.0) with ESMTP id XAA23682; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 23:26:50 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <37593369.10E2888D@sky.rim.or.jp> Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 23:25:45 +0900 From: Jun Kuriyama X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [ja] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: doc@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-translate@ngo.org.uk Subject: Re: FDP Directory Reorganisation References: <19990513211458.B70767@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <19990603195027.A31941@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Nik Clayton wrote: > I haven't been sleeping on this. The CVS Repository maintainers (Peter > Wemm and John Polstra) are both too busy to deal with the changes > required at the moment. According to John the week beginning the 14th June > is the earliest they will get to it. Can you summarize changes on this re-organization? # I couldn't find what is the final consensus for this re-organization. -- Jun Kuriyama // kuriyama@sky.rim.or.jp // kuriyama@FreeBSD.ORG To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jun 5 8:10: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E844114C25 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 08:10:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id IAA16908; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 08:10:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from megaweapon.zigg.com (megaweapon.zigg.com [206.114.60.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3A1614BCC for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 08:04:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matt@zigg.com) Received: from localhost (matt@localhost) by megaweapon.zigg.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA26136 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 11:04:21 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from matt@zigg.com) Message-Id: <199906051459.KAA06184@torgo.zigg.local> Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 10:59:57 -0400 (EDT) From: matt@zigg.com Reply-To: matt@zigg.com To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/12035: hier(7) is missing entry for /usr/libdata/perl Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 12035 >Category: docs >Synopsis: hier(7) is missing entry for /usr/libdata/perl >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat Jun 5 08:10:00 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Matt Behrens >Release: FreeBSD 3.2-19990531-STABLE i386 >Organization: zigg.com >Environment: 3.2-STABLE >Description: hier(7) manpage description of /usr/libdata does not mention /usr/libdata/perl. >How-To-Repeat: man 7 hier >Fix: Patch follows: --- hier.7 Wed Feb 17 19:58:20 1999 +++ hier.7+perl Sat Jun 5 10:55:51 1999 @@ -252,6 +252,9 @@ various prebuilt lint libraries; see .Xr lint 1 +.It Li perl/ +perl modules; see +.Xr perlmodlib 1 .It Li stallion/ holding the download firmware images .It Li tcl --LAA06192.928594817/torgo.zigg.local-- ReSent-Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 11:04:12 -0400 (EDT) ReSent-From: Matt Behrens ReSent-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org ReSent-Subject: hier(7) is missing entry for /usr/libdata/perl ReSent-Message-ID: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jun 5 10:16:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from remus.clara.net (remus.clara.net [195.8.69.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6F3C14D57 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 10:16:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pierre@siteit.net) Received: from pierre (du-027-0395.claranet.co.uk [195.8.82.141]) by remus.clara.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA14999 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 18:09:46 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from pierre@siteit.net) From: pierre@siteit.net Message-ID: <004a01beaf77$3c224340$0100a8c0@pierre> To: Subject: Hi.. big problem i really need your help. Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 18:17:04 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0047_01BEAF7F.9CDA1D40" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0047_01BEAF7F.9CDA1D40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm tryin to install QUOTA on my box but I can't find the kernal config = file! check this out! su-2.03# ls -al total 4609 drwxr-xr-x 16 root wheel 512 Jun 1 20:27 . drwxr-xr-x 16 root wheel 512 Jun 1 20:27 .. -rw-r--r-- 2 root wheel 383 May 18 03:41 .cshrc -rw-r--r-- 2 root wheel 235 May 18 03:41 .profile -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 3480 May 18 03:42 COPYRIGHT drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Jun 2 05:33 bin drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 512 Jun 1 20:02 boot lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 11 Jun 1 20:03 compat -> /usr/compat drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 9728 Jun 5 11:40 dev drwxr-xr-x 14 root wheel 2048 Jun 5 10:56 etc lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 9 Jun 1 20:27 home -> /usr/home -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 2329748 May 18 04:05 kernel -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 2329748 May 18 04:05 kernel.GENERIC drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 May 18 03:35 lkm drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 May 18 03:35 mnt drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 1024 Jun 1 19:12 modules dr-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 512 Jun 5 11:51 proc drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Jun 2 06:59 root drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 1536 Jun 1 19:47 sbin drwxr-xr-x 4 root wheel 512 Jun 1 19:09 stand lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 11 Jun 1 19:33 sys -> usr/src/sys drwxrwxrwt 2 root wheel 512 Jun 5 11:40 tmp drwxr-xr-x 18 root wheel 512 Jun 2 09:36 usr drwxr-xr-x 19 root wheel 512 Jun 2 05:48 var su-2.03# cd /usr/src su-2.03# ls -al total 2 drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 May 18 03:35 . drwxr-xr-x 18 root wheel 512 Jun 2 09:36 .. su-2.03# pwd /usr/src su-2.03# whoami root su-2.03#=20 Instead of where's waldo.. err.. wheres my kernal ?! :-} Regards, Pierre =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Affordable Hosting from $10.00 a month! 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      I'm tryin to install QUOTA on my box but I can't = find the=20 kernal config file!
       
      check this out!
       
      su-2.03# ls -al
      total 4609
      drwxr-xr-x  16 = root  wheel      512 Jun  1 20:27=20 .
      drwxr-xr-x  16 root  wheel      = 512=20 Jun  1 20:27 ..
      -rw-r--r--   2 root =20 wheel      383 May 18 03:41=20 .cshrc
      -rw-r--r--   2 root =20 wheel      235 May 18 03:41=20 .profile
      -r--r--r--   1 root  = wheel    =20 3480 May 18 03:42 COPYRIGHT
      drwxr-xr-x   2 root =20 wheel      512 Jun  2 05:33=20 bin
      drwxr-xr-x   3 root  = wheel     =20 512 Jun  1 20:02 boot
      lrwxr-xr-x   1 root =20 wheel       11 Jun  1 20:03 compat = ->=20 /usr/compat
      drwxr-xr-x   3 root  = wheel    =20 9728 Jun  5 11:40 dev
      drwxr-xr-x  14 root =20 wheel     2048 Jun  5 10:56=20 etc
      lrwxr-xr-x   1 root =20 wheel        9 Jun  1 20:27 home = ->=20 /usr/home
      -rwxr-xr-x   1 root  wheel  2329748 May = 18=20 04:05 kernel
      -rwxr-xr-x   1 root  wheel  2329748 = May 18=20 04:05 kernel.GENERIC
      drwxr-xr-x   2 root =20 wheel      512 May 18 03:35=20 lkm
      drwxr-xr-x   2 root  = wheel     =20 512 May 18 03:35 mnt
      drwxr-xr-x   2 root =20 wheel     1024 Jun  1 19:12=20 modules
      dr-xr-xr-x   1 root =20 wheel      512 Jun  5 11:51=20 proc
      drwxr-xr-x   2 root  = wheel     =20 512 Jun  2 06:59 root
      drwxr-xr-x   2 root =20 wheel     1536 Jun  1 19:47=20 sbin
      drwxr-xr-x   4 root  = wheel     =20 512 Jun  1 19:09 stand
      lrwxrwxrwx   1 root =20 wheel       11 Jun  1 19:33 sys -> = usr/src/sys
      drwxrwxrwt   2 root =20 wheel      512 Jun  5 11:40=20 tmp
      drwxr-xr-x  18 root  = wheel      512=20 Jun  2 09:36 usr
      drwxr-xr-x  19 root =20 wheel      512 Jun  2 05:48 = var
      su-2.03# cd=20 /usr/src
      su-2.03# ls -al
      total 2
      drwxr-xr-x   2 = root =20 wheel  512 May 18 03:35 .
      drwxr-xr-x  18 root  = wheel  512=20 Jun  2 09:36 ..
      su-2.03# pwd
      /usr/src
      su-2.03#=20 whoami
      root
      su-2.03#
       
       
      Instead of where's waldo.. err.. wheres my kernal ?! = :-}
       
      Regards,
       
      Pierre
       
       
       ------=_NextPart_000_0047_01BEAF7F.9CDA1D40-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jun 5 12:10:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from scrabble.freeuk.net (scrabble.freeuk.net [212.126.144.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6507014D74 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 12:10:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrew@cream.org) Received: from [212.126.148.30] (helo=cream.org) by scrabble.freeuk.net with esmtp (Exim 2.11 #1) id 10qLpt-0004Z6-00; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 19:10:29 +0000 Content-Length: 1340 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <004a01beaf77$3c224340$0100a8c0@pierre> Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 20:07:45 +0100 (BST) From: Andrew Boothman To: pierre@siteit.net Subject: RE: Hi.. big problem i really need your help. Cc: FreeBSD-Doc@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Pierre, You should be careful which FreeBSD mailing lists you post to. Because all FreeBSD's lists are read by volenteers only, if you don't play by the rules you'll get little or no help. The freebsd-doc mailing list is for querys and problems with documentation such as the web site, Handbook and FAQ. You really wanted the freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list, which would have got your problem to people who actually want to help others with their problems! Anyway, to your question : On 05-Jun-99 pierre@siteit.net wrote: > I'm tryin to install QUOTA on my box but I can't find the kernal config file! The kernel config file isn't stored in / These two files are actual kernel binaries : > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 2329748 May 18 04:05 kernel > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 2329748 May 18 04:05 kernel.GENERIC But the config file will be in /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/ and it's name will depend on what it was called when it was made! However, the fact that you had to ask this question in the first place suggests that you don't know that much about customising kernels. Therefore, I suggest you read the relevent section of the manual in /usr/share/doc/handbook/ or http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/ And please be more careful with your posting in future. --- Andrew Boothman http://sour.cream.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jun 5 15:37:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail1.noc.netcom.net (mail1.noc.netcom.net [204.31.1.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0991114F12 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 15:37:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kprater@industrysearch.com) Received: from webserver.industrysearch.com (webserver.industrysearch.com [207.95.128.10]) by mail1.noc.netcom.net (8.9.1/8.9.1/(NETCOM v2.00)) with ESMTP id PAA03307 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 15:37:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199906052237.PAA03307@mail1.noc.netcom.net> Received: from PB-S607 by webserver.industrysearch.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.0.1458.49) id L9MBWB4H; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 18:25:24 -0400 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Ken Prater, IndustrySearch.Com" Date: Sat, 5 Jun 99 18:35:01 +0000 Subject: "Link Your Web Site" To IndustrySearch.Com X-Mailer: WM - IndustrySearch.Com Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Increase traffic to your company's web site with a FREE Hyperlink to IndustrySearch.Com. Thousands of industrial purchasing agents, buyers, engineers and others searching for suppliers and services can locate your business easily with our USA Industrial Directory. You can visit IndustrySearch.Com at http://industrysearch.com "Link Your Web Site" to our USA Industrial Directory Data Base today! Visit IndustrySearch.Com at http://industrysearch.com and click on "Link Your Web Site" Thank you, K. Prater USA INDUSTRIAL DATA BASE MANAGEMENT To be removed from our mailing list, please click Reply and type "REMOVE" in the subject field To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message