From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Nov 14 2:46:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7169150D4; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 02:46:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marcel@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from marcel@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id CAA10920; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 02:46:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marcel@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 02:46:12 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <199911141046.CAA10920@freefall.freebsd.org> To: asmodai@wxs.nl, marcel@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/14860: Addition of NLFUG to the User Groups webpage Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Addition of NLFUG to the User Groups webpage State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: marcel State-Changed-When: Sun Nov 14 02:45:12 PST 1999 State-Changed-Why: Committed. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Nov 14 9:19:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from imap.ncsa.es (imap.ncsa.es [194.179.50.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9906151E8; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 09:19:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jesusr@chuck.jerocu.net) Received: from chuck.jerocu.net (chuck.jerocu.net [194.224.235.59]) by imap.ncsa.es (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA29398; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 18:19:14 +0100 (CET) Received: (from jesusr@localhost) by chuck.jerocu.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA00939; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 18:19:04 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <19991113200245.581FC14E57@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 18:19:04 +0100 (CET) From: "JesusR." To: (Wolfram Schneider) Subject: RE: webupdate failed on hub.freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 13-Nov-99 Wolfram Schneider wrote: > [This is an automatically created E-Mail message from > the daily webupdate cron job:] > > ===> es/ports > cvs -QR co -p ports/INDEX > INDEX > cp /g/www/buildcvsup/www/es/ports/../../en/ports/packages.exists . > rm -f *.sgml > perl5 /g/www/buildcvsup/www/es/ports/portindex INDEX YEAR2000 > echo DOCS= *.sgml > Makefile.gen > make > sgmlnorm -d -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog afterstep.sgml > > afterstep.html [..] > sgmlnorm -d -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog x11-servers.sgml > > x11-servers.html > sgmlnorm -d -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog x11-toolkits.sgml > > x11-toolkits.html > sgmlnorm -d -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog x11-wm.sgml > x11-wm.html > sgmlnorm -d -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog x11.sgml > x11.html > make: don't know how to make tcl75.sgml. Stop > *** Error code 2 > > Stop. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > make all failed Has this been fixed by someone?. I can't reproduce the error. Saludos JesusR. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Nov 14 12:58: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mta1.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta1.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D46C515089 for ; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 12:58:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris@holly.dyndns.org) Received: from holly.dyndns.org ([216.62.157.60]) by mta1.rcsntx.swbell.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.09.16.21.57.p8) with ESMTP id <0FL7006N0GWO71@mta1.rcsntx.swbell.net> for doc@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 14:58:01 -0600 (CST) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA69809 for doc@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 14:57:51 -0600 (CST envelope-from chris) X-URL: http://www.FreeBSD.org/~chris/ Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 14:57:50 -0600 From: Chris Costello Subject: Structure proposal. To: doc@FreeBSD.org Reply-To: chris@calldei.com Message-id: <19991114145750.K48527@holly.calldei.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.4i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT (i386) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Now that I'm rewriting the FAQ, I think a few things need to be centralized. Things like the &rel.current; entity and mailing-lists.ent should be moved into a share directory of some sort. Ideas? -- |Chris Costello |It's not hard to meet expenses, they're everywhere. `--------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Nov 14 12:59:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mta3.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta3.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A4D714C99; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 12:59:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris@holly.dyndns.org) Received: from holly.dyndns.org ([216.62.157.60]) by mta3.rcsntx.swbell.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.09.16.21.57.p8) with ESMTP id <0FL7006T6GZJ0N@mta3.rcsntx.swbell.net>; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 14:59:49 -0600 (CST) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA69829; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 14:59:34 -0600 (CST envelope-from chris) X-URL: http://www.FreeBSD.org/~chris/ Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 14:59:34 -0600 From: Chris Costello Subject: Rewriting the FAQ To: doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: faq@FreeBSD.org Reply-To: chris@calldei.com Message-id: <19991114145934.L48527@holly.calldei.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.4i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT (i386) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm beginning to rewrite the FAQ. Now this doesn't mean you shouldn't stop committing to the FAQ -- I can gather your commits and merge them into my new FAQ. However, I'm updating it to reflect 3.X instead of 2.2. So I need your help. Please send me any new 3.X related FAQs for inclusion in the new FAQ. Periodically (though not really consistantly -- just whenever I see fit) updated at http://www.FreeBSD.org/~chris/newfaq/ -- |Chris Costello |Meets quality standards: It compiles without errors. `---------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Nov 14 13: 2:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.yes.no (ns1.yes.no [195.204.136.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C269314C99; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 13:02:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eivind@bitbox.follo.net) Received: from bitbox.follo.net (bitbox.follo.net [195.204.143.218]) by ns1.yes.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA20533; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 22:02:28 +0100 (CET) Received: (from eivind@localhost) by bitbox.follo.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) id WAA41212; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 22:02:27 +0100 (MET) Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 22:02:27 +0100 From: Eivind Eklund To: "Andreas L. Gustafsson" Cc: wosch@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD for "free" Message-ID: <19991114220227.G34741@bitbox.follo.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: ; from ante@Update.UU.SE on Fri, Nov 12, 1999 at 11:27:02AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Nov 12, 1999 at 11:27:02AM +0100, Andreas L. Gustafsson wrote: > I am in no way a part of, or paid by, the Free Software Foundation, but > a independant programmer/user that's deeply concerned about the issues > about freedom and the philosophy of the FSF. As am I. One of the things I am most concerned about is the the FSF has been able to fool people into thinking that GPLed software is free software. It isn't - it is software that has been made unfree in a specific way in order to hurt proprietary software (as opposed to helping free software or open source software - if you want to maximize the amount and quality of open source software, the GPL is almost always the wrong choice). Please don't re-iterate this confusion by referring to the Free Software Foundation as if they were in favour of freedom. Thank you. Eivind. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Nov 14 13: 3:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.yes.no (ns1.yes.no [195.204.136.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A212215278; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 13:03:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eivind@bitbox.follo.net) Received: from bitbox.follo.net (bitbox.follo.net [195.204.143.218]) by ns1.yes.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA20557; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 22:03:24 +0100 (CET) Received: (from eivind@localhost) by bitbox.follo.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) id WAA41241; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 22:03:24 +0100 (MET) Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 22:03:23 +0100 From: Eivind Eklund To: "Andreas L. Gustafsson" Cc: wosch@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD for "free" Message-ID: <19991114220323.H34741@bitbox.follo.net> References: <19991114220227.G34741@bitbox.follo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <19991114220227.G34741@bitbox.follo.net>; from eivind@FreeBSD.ORG on Sun, Nov 14, 1999 at 10:02:27PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Nov 14, 1999 at 10:02:27PM +0100, Eivind Eklund wrote: > On Fri, Nov 12, 1999 at 11:27:02AM +0100, Andreas L. Gustafsson wrote: > > I am in no way a part of, or paid by, the Free Software Foundation, but > > a independant programmer/user that's deeply concerned about the issues > > about freedom and the philosophy of the FSF. > > As am I. [...] Whoops - this wasn't supposed to be public! Eivind. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Nov 14 13:53: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7EF314DA1; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 13:53:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wes@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from wes@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id NAA06778; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 13:53:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wes@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 13:53:07 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <199911142153.NAA06778@freefall.freebsd.org> To: sjr@home.com, wes@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/14505: Addition to release notes for Intel PRO/100+ card Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Addition to release notes for Intel PRO/100+ card State-Changed-From-To: feedback->closed State-Changed-By: wes State-Changed-When: Sun Nov 14 13:50:47 PST 1999 State-Changed-Why: Approved by originator. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Nov 14 15: 2:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 286BE14A1B for ; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 15:01:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA26167; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 22:49:10 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 22:49:08 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Wolfram Schneider Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [tege@swox.com: gif problems] Message-ID: <19991114224908.C21117@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19991108104258.B23403@freno.cs.tu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19991108104258.B23403@freno.cs.tu-berlin.de>; from Wolfram Schneider on Mon, Nov 08, 1999 at 10:42:58AM +0100 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Wolfram, On Mon, Nov 08, 1999 at 10:42:58AM +0100, Wolfram Schneider wrote: > From: Torbjorn Granlund > > Please consider converting your gif images to png. www.burnallgifs.org. OK, you're the WebMaster. What do you think? Personally, I suspect PNG support is built into enough browsers that we're not going to lose an audience by converting all the GIF files in the repository to PNG. N -- If you want to imagine the future, imagine a tennis shoe stamping on a penguin's face forever. --- with apologies to George Orwell To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Nov 14 15: 4:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15A1F14A1B for ; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 15:01:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA27406; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 22:57:58 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 22:57:57 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Mark Ovens Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dsssl-docbook docs Message-ID: <19991114225757.F21117@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19991111231832.D451@marder-1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19991111231832.D451@marder-1>; from Mark Ovens on Thu, Nov 11, 1999 at 11:18:32PM +0000 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Nov 11, 1999 at 11:18:32PM +0000, Mark Ovens wrote: > Who is responsible for the docs for dsssl-docbook-modular-1.44? > > I've been enhancing Andrew Boothman's Doc Index script and have > discovered that all the HTML docs for dsssl have weirdly formatted > (but syntactically correct) HTML code, e.g.: > > > That's technically correct HTML. I suppose you could make the port depend on the tidy port as well, and then reformat them when they're installed. A better bet is probably to make the Perl parser more robust. There are almost certainly pre-existing HTML parsers in CPAN, to avoid you having to reinvent the wheel. N -- If you want to imagine the future, imagine a tennis shoe stamping on a penguin's face forever. --- with apologies to George Orwell To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Nov 14 15: 4:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B10C152E5 for ; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 15:04:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA25799; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 22:46:08 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 22:46:07 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Mark Ovens Cc: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai , doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cp Message-ID: <19991114224607.B21117@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19991105203615.B12970@daemon.ninth-circle.org> <19991107203325.B316@marder-1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19991107203325.B316@marder-1>; from Mark Ovens on Sun, Nov 07, 1999 at 08:33:26PM +0000 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Nov 07, 1999 at 08:33:26PM +0000, Mark Ovens wrote: > No they aren't, and I speak from experience. If FIFOs are involved > then ``-r'' tries to copy the contents of the FIFO whereas ``-R'' > copies the FIFO itself: > > cp.c line 402 > e S_IFIFO: > if (Rflag) { > if (copy_fifo(curr->fts_statp, !dne)) > rval = 1; > } else { > if (copy_file(curr, dne)) > rval = 1; Man page patch? N -- If you want to imagine the future, imagine a tennis shoe stamping on a penguin's face forever. --- with apologies to George Orwell To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Nov 14 15: 5: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A38B15308; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 15:04:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA25693; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 22:45:31 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 22:45:28 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Cecile Neu Cc: Nik Clayton , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: use of multiple ethernet cards Message-ID: <19991114224528.A21117@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19991105002134.A96200@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: ; from Cecile Neu on Wed, Nov 10, 1999 at 03:53:06PM +0100 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Nov 10, 1999 at 03:53:06PM +0100, Cecile Neu wrote: > On Fri, 5 Nov 1999, Nik Clayton wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 04, 1999 at 04:06:02PM +0100, Cecile Neu wrote: > > > [ installation of multiple ethernet cards ] > > > > Couldn't agree more. Now that you've got it working, do you think you > > could submit some documentation describing what's involved? If you > > need a hand with structure, formatting, and so on, just shout. > > yes, i'd like to do that. i suppose i should subscribe to freebsd-doc and > have a look at the docproj pages for structure and formatting info? Absolutely. The Doc. Proj. primer (see the website) is a good starting point. Anything else you need, just shout. N -- If you want to imagine the future, imagine a tennis shoe stamping on a penguin's face forever. --- with apologies to George Orwell To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Nov 14 15: 5:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4248D14C42 for ; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 15:05:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA26842; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 22:53:30 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 22:53:29 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Wolfram Schneider , pscott@the-frontier.org Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [pscott@the-frontier.org: Gallery] Message-ID: <19991114225329.D21117@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19991108104526.C23403@freno.cs.tu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19991108104526.C23403@freno.cs.tu-berlin.de>; from Wolfram Schneider on Mon, Nov 08, 1999 at 10:45:27AM +0100 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Nov 08, 1999 at 10:45:27AM +0100, Wolfram Schneider wrote: > From: "Paul A. Scott" > To: > Subject: Gallery > > Hi, > > A number of years ago I had my Home Page listed in the FreeBSD Gallery. It > mysteriously disappeared one day, and I've been trying ever since to add my > Home Page to the Gallery without success. I never receive any problem report > or other correspondence and my page is never listed. I haven't been too > worried about it, but lately I have seen others' pages added, and it's > beginning to bug me. What gives? > > Hoping to get a reply, It *should* be on http://www.FreeBSD.org/gallery/pgallery.html pgallery.html is for personal homepages. N -- If you want to imagine the future, imagine a tennis shoe stamping on a penguin's face forever. --- with apologies to George Orwell To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Nov 14 15:18:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D05D614C42 for ; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 15:18:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA30896 for doc@freebsd.org; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 23:17:20 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 22:55:38 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: docs@freebsd.org Subject: Recursing TeX to the right level, automatically Message-ID: <19991114225538.E21117@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=mYCpIKhGyMATD0i+ X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --mYCpIKhGyMATD0i+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi guys, [ OhMyGod, what the hell happened to my Sunday? ] Attached is a diff to share/mk/doc.docbook.mk, which runs TeX until the ${DOC}.aux file is the same as it was on the last two runs. The idea is that this is a better method than our current "Run it three times and hope that's got everything" approach. It's survived a complete run through of % cd en_US.ISO_8859-1 % make FORMATS=ps so I think it's safe to commit. Comments from TeX and/or make(1) wizards would be appreciated. N -- If you want to imagine the future, imagine a tennis shoe stamping on a penguin's face forever. --- with apologies to George Orwell --mYCpIKhGyMATD0i+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=diff Index: doc.docbook.mk =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/share/mk/doc.docbook.mk,v retrieving revision 1.3 diff -u -r1.3 doc.docbook.mk --- doc.docbook.mk 1999/11/01 19:41:02 1.3 +++ doc.docbook.mk 1999/11/14 22:17:45 @@ -185,12 +185,17 @@ ${JADE} -Vtex-backend -ioutput.print ${JADEOPTS} -d ${DSLPRINT} -t tex -o ${.TARGET} ${MASTERDOC} ${DOC}.dvi: ${DOC}.tex - @echo "==> TeX pass 1/3" - -tex "&jadetex" ${.ALLSRC} - @echo "==> TeX pass 2/3" - -tex "&jadetex" ${.ALLSRC} - @echo "==> TeX pass 3/3" - -tex "&jadetex" ${.ALLSRC} + if [ ! -f ${DOC}-p.aux ] ; then \ + echo place-holder > ${DOC}-p.aux; \ + fi + -cp -pf ${DOC}-p.aux ${DOC}-pp.aux + -cp -pf ${DOC}.aux ${DOC}-p.aux + -tex "&jadetex" ${DOC}.tex + if [ ! -z "`cmp ${DOC}.aux ${DOC}-p.aux`" -o ! -z "`cmp ${DOC}.aux ${DOC}-pp.aux`" ]; then \ + rm ${.TARGET}; \ + ${MAKE} ${.TARGET}; \ + fi + -rm ${DOC}-p.aux ${DOC}-pp.aux ${DOC}.pdf: ${DOC}.tex @echo "==> PDFTeX pass 1/3" --mYCpIKhGyMATD0i+-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Nov 14 18:12:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mta3.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta3.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 553FA14BCA; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 18:12:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris@holly.dyndns.org) Received: from holly.dyndns.org ([216.62.157.60]) by mta3.rcsntx.swbell.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.09.16.21.57.p8) with ESMTP id <0FL70070MVGLJP@mta3.rcsntx.swbell.net>; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 20:12:22 -0600 (CST) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA70707; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 20:12:11 -0600 (CST envelope-from chris) X-URL: http://www.FreeBSD.org/~chris/ Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 20:12:10 -0600 From: Chris Costello Subject: Re: [tege@swox.com: gif problems] In-reply-to: <19991114224908.C21117@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> To: Nik Clayton Cc: Wolfram Schneider , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chris@calldei.com Message-id: <19991114201210.N48527@holly.calldei.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.4i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT (i386) References: <19991108104258.B23403@freno.cs.tu-berlin.de> <19991114224908.C21117@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Nov 14, 1999, Nik Clayton wrote: > Personally, I suspect PNG support is built into enough browsers that we're > not going to lose an audience by converting all the GIF files in the > repository to PNG. Netscape for Linux doesn't seem to handle PNGs properly in many cases. The W3C set up a page demonstrating how PNG should be seen -- and when I tried it, Netscape did not show them properly. -- |Chris Costello |Beware of programmers who carry screwdrivers. - Leonard Brandwein `------------------------------------------------------------------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Nov 14 23:40:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from sol.cc.u-szeged.hu (sol.cc.u-szeged.hu [160.114.8.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84A9314BE4; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 23:40:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sziszi@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu) Received: from petra.hos.u-szeged.hu by sol.cc.u-szeged.hu (8.9.1b+Sun/SMI-SVR4) id IAA21722; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 08:40:24 +0100 (MET) Received: from sziszi by petra.hos.u-szeged.hu with local-smtp (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian)) id 11nGjG-0000k8-00; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 08:39:10 +0100 Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 08:39:10 +0100 (CET) From: Adam Szilveszter To: Nik Clayton Cc: Wolfram Schneider , doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [tege@swox.com: gif problems] In-Reply-To: <19991114224908.C21117@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 14 Nov 1999, Nik Clayton wrote: > Wolfram, > > On Mon, Nov 08, 1999 at 10:42:58AM +0100, Wolfram Schneider wrote: > > From: Torbjorn Granlund > > > > Please consider converting your gif images to png. www.burnallgifs.org. > > OK, you're the WebMaster. What do you think? > > Personally, I suspect PNG support is built into enough browsers that we're > not going to lose an audience by converting all the GIF files in the > repository to PNG. Hi! Sorry for speaking up on this but I think that the mere fact of many people already using the latest versions of Netscape to view our site does not mean we are all set to abandon gifs yet. This I have learned from experinece when I had to design a Web page for one of our student groups at the University and to my horror had to find out that the supposedly modern computer lab still runs Netscape 3.1 on Win 3.11 and this is where almost all students go for Internet access... no comment on this one. The bottom line: I think it is still too early for gifs to go. Cheers ! Szilveszter ADAM ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- * Adam Szilveszter * JATE Szeged * email: sziszi@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu * * Homepage : none * alternate email: cc@flanker.itl.net.ua * * Finger sziszi@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu for PGP key. * * I prefer using the door instead of Windows(tm)... * To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 15 0: 3:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 647) id 6DFEF14C97; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 00:03:26 -0800 (PST) To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: webupdate failed on hub.freebsd.org Cc: wosch@FreeBSD.ORG Message-Id: <19991115080326.6DFEF14C97@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 00:03:26 -0800 (PST) From: wosch@FreeBSD.ORG (Wolfram Schneider) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [This is an automatically created E-Mail message from the daily webupdate cron job:] ===> handbook (cd ../../../doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook && make FORMATS=html-split DESTDIR=/home/wosch/public_html/data/handbook all) /usr/local/bin/jade -V html-manifest -ioutput.html -c /g/www/buildcvsup/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/../../../share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog -d /g/www/buildcvsup/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/../../../share/sgml/freebsd.dsl -t sgml /g/www/buildcvsup/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/book.sgml /usr/local/bin/jade:/g/www/buildcvsup/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/policies/chapter.sgml:375:9:E: document type does not allow element "PARA" here; missing one of "FOOTNOTE", "MSGTEXT", "CAUTION", "IMPORTANT", "NOTE", "TIP", "WARNING", "BLOCKQUOTE", "INFORMALEXAMPLE" start-tag /usr/local/bin/jade:/g/www/buildcvsup/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/policies/chapter.sgml:385:9:E: end tag for "PARA" omitted, but OMITTAG NO was specified /usr/local/bin/jade:/g/www/buildcvsup/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/policies/chapter.sgml:370:4: start tag was here *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. make all failed To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 15 0:49:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (mail.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2AB214F36; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 00:49:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wosch@cs.tu-berlin.de) Received: from freno.cs.tu-berlin.de (wosch@freno.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.167]) by mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA29370; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 09:43:35 +0100 (MET) Received: (from wosch@localhost) by freno.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.9.1/8.9.0) id JAA22971; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 09:43:34 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 09:43:34 +0100 From: Wolfram Schneider To: "JesusR." Cc: (Wolfram Schneider) , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: webupdate failed on hub.freebsd.org Message-ID: <19991115094334.A22685@freno.cs.tu-berlin.de> References: <19991113200245.581FC14E57@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.6i In-Reply-To: ; from JesusR. on Sun, Nov 14, 1999 at 06:19:04PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 1999-11-14 18:19:04 +0100, JesusR. wrote: > > On 13-Nov-99 Wolfram Schneider wrote: > > [This is an automatically created E-Mail message from > > the daily webupdate cron job:] > > > > ===> es/ports > > cvs -QR co -p ports/INDEX > INDEX > > cp /g/www/buildcvsup/www/es/ports/../../en/ports/packages.exists . > > rm -f *.sgml > > perl5 /g/www/buildcvsup/www/es/ports/portindex INDEX YEAR2000 > > echo DOCS= *.sgml > Makefile.gen > > make > > sgmlnorm -d -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog afterstep.sgml > > > afterstep.html > > [..] > > > sgmlnorm -d -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog x11-servers.sgml > > > x11-servers.html > > sgmlnorm -d -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog x11-toolkits.sgml > > > x11-toolkits.html > > sgmlnorm -d -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog x11-wm.sgml > x11-wm.html > > sgmlnorm -d -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog x11.sgml > x11.html > > make: don't know how to make tcl75.sgml. Stop > > *** Error code 2 > > > > Stop. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop. > > make all failed > > Has this been fixed by someone?. I can't reproduce the error. It is a bug in the spanish and japanese Makefiles. The bug was fixed in the english Makefile www/en/ports/Makefile revision 1.24 -- Wolfram Schneider http://wolfram.schneider.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 15 2:37: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from sonet.crimea.ua (OTC-sl3-FLY.CRIS.NET [212.110.136.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADF6815038; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 02:35:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sonet.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id MAA19907; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 12:40:24 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by scorpion.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.5+ssl+keepalive) id MAA05451; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 12:59:45 +0300 (MSK) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 12:59:45 +0300 From: Alexey Zelkin To: Nik Clayton Cc: Wolfram Schneider , pscott@the-frontier.org, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [pscott@the-frontier.org: Gallery] Message-ID: <19991115125945.C1282@scorpion.crimea.ua> References: <19991108104526.C23403@freno.cs.tu-berlin.de> <19991114225329.D21117@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.7i In-Reply-To: <19991114225329.D21117@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.7-RELEASE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi, On Sun, Nov 14, 1999 at 10:53:29PM +0000, Nik Clayton wrote: > > A number of years ago I had my Home Page listed in the FreeBSD Gallery. It > > mysteriously disappeared one day, and I've been trying ever since to add my > > Home Page to the Gallery without success. I never receive any problem report > > or other correspondence and my page is never listed. I haven't been too > > worried about it, but lately I have seen others' pages added, and it's > > beginning to bug me. What gives? > > > > Hoping to get a reply, > > It *should* be on > > http://www.FreeBSD.org/gallery/pgallery.html > > pgallery.html is for personal homepages. It's already there :) -- /* Alexey Zelkin && phantom@cris.net */ /* Tavric National University && phantom@crimea.edu */ /* http://www.ccssu.crimea.ua/~phantom && phantom@FreeBSD.org */ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 15 2:40:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.kt.rim.or.jp (mail.kt.rim.or.jp [202.247.130.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46EE515000 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 02:40:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kuriyama@sky.rim.or.jp) Received: from rhea.sky.rim.or.jp (ppp370.kt.rim.or.jp [202.247.140.70]) by mail.kt.rim.or.jp (8.8.8/3.6W-RIMNET-98-06-09) with ESMTP id TAA08059; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 19:40:21 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost.sky.rim.or.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rhea.sky.rim.or.jp (8.9.3/3.7W/rhea-1.2) with ESMTP id TAA05172; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 19:40:17 +0900 (JST) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 19:40:16 +0900 Message-ID: <14383.58128.905736.86888F@localhost.sky.rim.or.jp> From: Jun Kuriyama To: chris@calldei.com Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Structure proposal. In-Reply-To: In your message of "Sun, 14 Nov 1999 14:57:50 -0600" <19991114145750.K48527@holly.calldei.com> References: <19991114145750.K48527@holly.calldei.com> User-Agent: Wanderlust/1.0.3 (Notorious) SEMI/1.13.3 (Komaiko) FLIM/1.12.5 (Hirahata) MULE XEmacs/20.4 (Emerald) (i386--freebsd) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.13.3 - "Komaiko") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org From: Chris Costello > Things like the &rel.current; entity and mailing-lists.ent > should be moved into a share directory of some sort. Ideas? We have translated versions of *.ent. Please use en_US.ISO_8859-1/share/sgml/*.ent if you want to move them. Jun Kuriyama // kuriyama@sky.rim.or.jp // kuriyama@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 15 4:25:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.kt.rim.or.jp (mail.kt.rim.or.jp [202.247.130.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69BD315030 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 04:25:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kuriyama@sky.rim.or.jp) Received: from rhea.sky.rim.or.jp (ppp376.kt.rim.or.jp [202.247.140.76]) by mail.kt.rim.or.jp (8.8.8/3.6W-RIMNET-98-06-09) with ESMTP id VAA01038; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 21:25:27 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost.sky.rim.or.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rhea.sky.rim.or.jp (8.9.3/3.7W/rhea-1.2) with ESMTP id VAA07954; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 21:25:25 +0900 (JST) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 21:25:24 +0900 Message-ID: <14383.64436.61853.61603M@localhost.sky.rim.or.jp> From: Jun Kuriyama To: wosch@cs.tu-berlin.de Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: webupdate failed on hub.freebsd.org In-Reply-To: In your message of "Mon, 15 Nov 1999 09:43:34 +0100" <19991115094334.A22685@freno.cs.tu-berlin.de> References: <19991113200245.581FC14E57@hub.freebsd.org> <19991115094334.A22685@freno.cs.tu-berlin.de> User-Agent: Wanderlust/1.0.3 (Notorious) SEMI/1.13.3 (Komaiko) FLIM/1.12.5 (Hirahata) MULE XEmacs/20.4 (Emerald) (i386--freebsd) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.13.3 - "Komaiko") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org From: Wolfram Schneider > It is a bug in the spanish and japanese Makefiles. OK. I've changed them. I tested these changes on my local environment. But if they break something, please drop me a mail. Jun Kuriyama // kuriyama@sky.rim.or.jp // kuriyama@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 15 6: 0:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.the-frontier.org (ns1.the-frontier.org [216.86.199.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D4A114BD4; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 06:00:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pscott@the-frontier.org) Received: from pas (pas.the-frontier.org [192.168.66.2]) by mail.the-frontier.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA29591; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 05:58:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pscott@the-frontier.org) From: "Paul A. Scott" To: "Alexey Zelkin" , "Nik Clayton" Cc: "Wolfram Schneider" , Subject: RE: [pscott@the-frontier.org: Gallery] Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 05:58:31 -0800 Message-ID: <000001bf2f71$7fe09da0$0242a8c0@pas.the-frontier.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <19991115125945.C1282@scorpion.crimea.ua> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Yes the links are there, now. Many thanks to Alexey for taking care of it for me. Someone may want to look into why the automated method isn't working, though. Ciao, Paul Paul A. Scott mailto:pscott@the-frontier.org http://www.the-frontier.org/pscott/ -----Original Message----- From: Alexey Zelkin [mailto:phantom@cris.net] Sent: Monday, November 15, 1999 2:00 AM To: Nik Clayton Cc: Wolfram Schneider; pscott@the-frontier.org; doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [pscott@the-frontier.org: Gallery] hi, On Sun, Nov 14, 1999 at 10:53:29PM +0000, Nik Clayton wrote: > > A number of years ago I had my Home Page listed in the FreeBSD Gallery. It > > mysteriously disappeared one day, and I've been trying ever since to add my > > Home Page to the Gallery without success. I never receive any problem report > > or other correspondence and my page is never listed. I haven't been too > > worried about it, but lately I have seen others' pages added, and it's > > beginning to bug me. What gives? > > > > Hoping to get a reply, > > It *should* be on > > http://www.FreeBSD.org/gallery/pgallery.html > > pgallery.html is for personal homepages. It's already there :) -- /* Alexey Zelkin && phantom@cris.net */ /* Tavric National University && phantom@crimea.edu */ /* http://www.ccssu.crimea.ua/~phantom && phantom@FreeBSD.org */ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 15 7: 6:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from sonet.crimea.ua (OTC-sl3-FLY.CRIS.NET [212.110.136.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84DBA150C8 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 07:04:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sonet.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id RAA15916; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 17:03:36 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by scorpion.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.5+ssl+keepalive) id RAA07045; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 17:49:57 +0300 (MSK) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 17:49:57 +0300 From: Alexey Zelkin To: Tommy Sweeney Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, ru-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ru Subject: -doc On-line TODO list (was: Re: Joining the Project) Message-ID: <19991115174957.B6833@scorpion.crimea.ua> References: <382C5FE0.C8DED682@crosswinds.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.7i In-Reply-To: <382C5FE0.C8DED682@crosswinds.net> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.7-RELEASE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi, On Fri, Nov 12, 1999 at 01:43:44PM -0500, Tommy Sweeney wrote: > What kind of places are you looking for in help? Hmm... My TODO list is updating very fast, but almost everytime I just add new points to do. And can't do amount of work noted there in three months, therefore I will move some last points to "-doc On-line TODO list". Anyone who have time and wish to do it can take these tasks. Hope on fruitful cooperation! 1. Review all articles (documents located under doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/articles) and bring it up do date. Some notes on that points: . formatting-media -- wrote for 2.2-RELEASE and needs to be updated to current state. . multi-os -- is out of date. Needs to be updated. . new-users -- looks like unchanged since 1997. . programming-tools -- same as previous. Maybe other articles need some work too. 2. handbook update. Please refer to Chapter 12 (PC hardware compatibility). Maybe you can submit something also ? Looks like almost data for this chapter was submitted at 1995 year. BTW, IMHO name of the chapter should be changed to "Hardware compatibility" and section which describes "Alpha hardware compatibility" should be added there. Thoughts ? 3. dpt*(8) manpages. They're still empty :( Quoting dpt driver and userland utilities author Simon Shapiro : > I have, on my ftp server, a LyX/LaTeX document that covers > the whole thing (in /crash). Also on my web site. > The source for these utilities is these, of course, > and the comments at the top should have all that you need. > Wish I could have had the time! Any additions ? Comments ? Takers ? -- /* Alexey Zelkin && phantom@cris.net */ /* Tavric National University && phantom@crimea.edu */ /* http://www.ccssu.crimea.ua/~phantom && phantom@FreeBSD.org */ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 15 7:16:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from sonet.crimea.ua (OTC-sl3-FLY.CRIS.NET [212.110.136.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F93D14C58; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 07:13:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sonet.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id RAA16055; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 17:17:42 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by scorpion.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.5+ssl+keepalive) id RAA06928; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 17:38:53 +0300 (MSK) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 17:38:53 +0300 From: Alexey Zelkin To: nik@FreeBSD.org Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: tutorials Message-ID: <19991115173853.A6833@scorpion.crimea.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.7i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.7-RELEASE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi, Why doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/tutorials still exists ? Almost all documents from this directory already converted to docbook and located at other places. tutorials/disklessx -> articles/diskless-x tutorials/ppp -> books/ppp-primer and ancient Device Driver Programmer Guide which require compelete rewriting. IMHO this directory is ready to go to Attic. -- /* Alexey Zelkin && phantom@cris.net */ /* Tavric National University && phantom@crimea.edu */ /* http://www.ccssu.crimea.ua/~phantom && phantom@FreeBSD.org */ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 15 11: 0:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9247915043 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 11:00:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id LAA14759 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 11:00:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 11:00:18 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199911151900.LAA14759@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: peter set sender to owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: FreeBSD doc list Subject: Current unassigned doc problem reports Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Current FreeBSD problem reports The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. Bugs can be in one of several states: o - open A problem report has been submitted, no sanity checking performed. a - analyzed The report has been examined by a team member and evaluated. f - feedback The problem has been solved, and the originator has been given a patch or a fix has been committed. The PR remains in this state pending a response from the originator. s - suspended The problem is not being worked on. This is a prime candidate for somebody who is looking for a project to do. If the problem cannot be solved at all, it will be closed, rather than suspended. c - closed A problem report is closed when any changes have been integrated, documented, and tested. Critical problems Serious problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- f [1999/08/05] docs/12988 doc [Patch] Fix more occurances of 'sd' in FA o [1999/09/14] docs/13746 doc Incorrect version in FAQ o [1999/11/06] docs/14738 doc wrong type of arg is described for kgetst 3 problems total. Non-critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- a [1998/07/31] docs/7456 doc dialog(3) man page outdated a [1998/08/31] docs/7791 doc ipf(1) and ipfstat(1) should have been ip o [1998/10/25] docs/8445 doc Update of "Installing Mathematica on Free o [1999/02/14] docs/10085 doc NIS Setup Tutorial o [1999/02/14] docs/10098 doc Lack of overall guide for NIS setup o [1999/02/25] docs/10240 doc We need a script which check if our web m o [1999/03/18] docs/10664 doc Notes on 2.2.8 -> 3.1 migration o [1999/03/29] docs/10850 doc submitting a documentation change for sed o [1999/04/07] docs/10997 doc Problem with query-pr-summary.cgi o [1999/04/21] docs/11258 doc suggestion to refine npx.4 o [1999/06/01] docs/11978 doc timed(8) manpage does not define '-F' swi o [1999/07/22] bin/12767 doc Expand /etc/ttys manpage o [1999/08/04] docs/12951 doc missing link to japanese mailing list gui o [1999/08/04] docs/12969 doc Informacion incorrecta para versiones Fre o [1999/08/08] docs/13034 doc incorrect (old/obsolete) manpage for name o [1999/08/13] docs/13116 doc typo in ms(7) o [1999/08/15] docs/13153 doc fdc.4 has typo (a line which begin with ' o [1999/08/18] docs/13225 doc fpa.4 seems to be i386 specific and shoul o [1999/08/23] docs/13333 doc remove rtld(1) XREF in dlopen.3 o [1999/08/23] misc/13341 doc FAQ 8.7 addition - booting drive 1 from N o [1999/08/24] docs/13354 doc URL corrections for www/en/gallery/galler o [1999/08/24] docs/13356 doc Corrections to www/en/gallery/gallery.db o [1999/08/28] docs/13439 doc Update docproj.docbook.mk for palm doc fo o [1999/08/28] docs/13441 doc incorrect path in SGML_CATALOG_FILES env o [1999/08/28] docs/13442 doc docproj-primer does not mention where to o [1999/09/09] docs/13657 doc mklocale(1) man errors o [1999/09/15] docs/13767 doc rstat_svc(8) manpage present, but /etc/rs o [1999/09/17] docs/13792 doc Difficult to find documentation of "secur o [1999/09/19] docs/13815 doc Out-of-date FAQ entries o [1999/09/21] docs/13878 doc No isnanf(3) documentation o [1999/09/22] docs/13914 doc global(1) manpage does not explain -v opt o [1999/09/25] docs/13950 doc webpage idea o [1999/09/25] docs/13956 doc commercial vendor: JAV-Associates Consult o [1999/09/25] docs/13957 doc Correction to your website for ZNYX Corp. o [1999/09/25] docs/13959 doc cgi notes o [1999/09/25] docs/13967 doc FreeBSD Related Publications in Korea o [1999/09/25] docs/13970 doc FreeBSD Newbie Newsletter o [1999/09/28] docs/14024 doc Several manpages still mentions hosts.den o [1999/09/29] docs/14035 doc tzfile.h referenced in tzfile(5) doesn't o [1999/10/04] docs/14112 doc calls in ddb doc don't exist any longer o [1999/10/06] docs/14158 doc md5(1) manpage should not claim the md5 a o [1999/10/06] docs/14159 doc Commercial Vendors - Software: Deskware, o [1999/10/06] docs/14165 doc FDP introduction article o [1999/10/10] docs/14248 doc codify proposed style o [1999/10/13] docs/14319 doc hostname(1) doesn't mention rc.conf o [1999/10/14] docs/14320 doc tzfile manual page has omissions and erro o [1999/10/14] docs/14321 doc Missing ld.so.1. o [1999/10/19] docs/14426 doc FAQ entry on kernel panics needs updating o [1999/10/21] docs/14449 doc time clamping effect of securelevel not d o [1999/10/25] docs/14530 doc Printed manual pages have extraneous blan o [1999/10/25] bin/14532 doc Much of cam_cdbparse(3) prints in Courier o [1999/10/27] docs/14563 doc Wrong manpage produced by `man 4 fd' o [1999/10/27] docs/14565 doc ioctl() codes for device type `fd' (flopp o [1999/10/29] docs/14595 doc The ipfw `log' suboption is not documente o [1999/11/03] docs/14682 doc lprm(1) unaware of lp(1) Environment Vari o [1999/11/05] docs/14734 doc There is no rtld(1) man page o [1999/11/12] docs/14858 doc pthread_cond_{destroy,timed_wait,wait}.3 57 problems total. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 15 11:25:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp04.wxs.nl (smtp04.wxs.nl [195.121.6.59]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2424F14D23; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 11:25:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.197.5]) by smtp04.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with ESMTP id AAA11C4; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 20:25:28 +0100 Received: (from asmodai@localhost) by daemon.ninth-circle.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA20115; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 20:17:33 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from asmodai) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 20:17:33 +0100 From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: Alexey Zelkin Cc: nik@FreeBSD.org, doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: tutorials Message-ID: <19991115201733.B19819@daemon.ninth-circle.org> References: <19991115173853.A6833@scorpion.crimea.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3i In-Reply-To: <19991115173853.A6833@scorpion.crimea.ua> Organisation: Ninth-Circle Enterprises Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -On [19991115 18:41], Alexey Zelkin (phantom@cris.net) wrote: >Why doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/tutorials still exists ? Almost all documents >from this directory already converted to docbook and located at other places. > >tutorials/disklessx -> articles/diskless-x >tutorials/ppp -> books/ppp-primer > >and ancient Device Driver Programmer Guide which require compelete rewriting. Working on that as we speak, but I get sidetracked continuously since I want to have manpages written as well to fill the gaps. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven/Asmodai asmodai(at)wxs.nl The BSD Programmer's Documentation Project Network/Security Specialist BSD: Technical excellence at its best Cogito, ergo sum. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 15 11:35:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2459414A09; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 11:35:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: from kilt.nothing-going-on.org (kilt.nothing-going-on.org [192.168.1.18]) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA75698; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 19:11:03 GMT (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by kilt.nothing-going-on.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA91804; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 07:39:12 GMT (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 07:39:12 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: "Andreas L. Gustafsson" Cc: wosch@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD for "free" Message-ID: <19991115073911.A91781@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: ; from Andreas L. Gustafsson on Fri, Nov 12, 1999 at 11:27:02AM +0100 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Nov 12, 1999 at 11:27:02AM +0100, Andreas L. Gustafsson wrote: > I was browsing by your webpages and I noticed that amongst the qualities > of FreeBSD you write that it is free, i.e. costs you nothing. > > I'd like to point out that since the Free Software Foundation has used > that word in a diffrent meaning, free as in freedom, using the same word > as in "costs you no dollars" is sure to confuse people. After reading everybody else's comments on this so far, why has no one considered a compromise? I don't see any reason why we couldn't extend the wording to something like the following. FreeBSD is free. We use the word 'free' in two senses here. First, you can download it, copy it, and receive copies from other people, completely free of charge. Second, once you have received it, you are free to use it however you see fit. You can extend it, change it, re-sell it, and otherwise use it. The only thing you are not allowed to do is claim that you wrote it[1]. Where [1] is a footnote, or other link, that says something like For more information, please see the _licenses that FreeBSD is distributed under_. "_..._" denotes a link. That text is (IMHO) inoffensive, and also has the benefit of being true. If we were in a particularly belligerent mood you could add something like Contrast this with the GNU Public License, which requires that any changes that make and distribute be accompanied by the full source code to the change. but that's probably unnecessary. If people can live with that (or a rewording thereof), perhaps Andreas could do a final rewrite (based on other people's comments here) and then submit it as a PR? N -- If you want to imagine the future, imagine a tennis shoe stamping on a penguin's face forever. --- with apologies to George Orwell To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 15 12:30:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4F8E14D8F; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 12:30:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from guido@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from guido@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id MAA24365; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 12:30:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from guido@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 12:30:08 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <199911152030.MAA24365@freefall.freebsd.org> To: guido@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, guido@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/7791: ipf(1) and ipfstat(1) should have been ipf(8) and ipfstat(8) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: ipf(1) and ipfstat(1) should have been ipf(8) and ipfstat(8) Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->guido Responsible-Changed-By: guido Responsible-Changed-When: Mon Nov 15 21:29:30 MET 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll take this up whe importing 3.3.3 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 15 13:54:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from typhoon.mail.pipex.net (typhoon.mail.pipex.net [158.43.128.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 62A2014BB7 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 13:54:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: (qmail 19509 invoked from network); 15 Nov 1999 21:54:30 -0000 Received: from userap25.uk.uudial.com (HELO marder-1.) 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(8.9.3/8.8.8) id VAA00971; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 21:54:29 GMT (envelope-from mark) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 21:54:28 +0000 From: Mark Ovens To: Nik Clayton Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dsssl-docbook docs Message-ID: <19991115215428.A320@marder-1> References: <19991111231832.D451@marder-1> <19991114225757.F21117@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <19991114225757.F21117@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Nov 14, 1999 at 10:57:57PM +0000, Nik Clayton wrote: > On Thu, Nov 11, 1999 at 11:18:32PM +0000, Mark Ovens wrote: > > Who is responsible for the docs for dsssl-docbook-modular-1.44? > > > > I've been enhancing Andrew Boothman's Doc Index script and have > > discovered that all the HTML docs for dsssl have weirdly formatted > > (but syntactically correct) HTML code, e.g.: > > > > > > > > > That's technically correct HTML. I suppose you could make the port depend > on the tidy port as well, and then reformat them when they're installed. > > A better bet is probably to make the Perl parser more robust. There are > almost certainly pre-existing HTML parsers in CPAN, to avoid you having > to reinvent the wheel. > I've done that, and passed my patches to Andrew. > N > -- > If you want to imagine the future, imagine a tennis shoe stamping > on a penguin's face forever. > --- with apologies to George Orwell -- STATE-OF-THE-ART: Any computer you can't afford. OBSOLETE: Any computer you own. ________________________________________________________________ FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark/ mailto:mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 15 14:20:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36E4F1511A; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 14:20:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris@holly.dyndns.org) Received: from holly.dyndns.org ([216.62.157.60]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.09.16.21.57.p8) with ESMTP id <0FL900A6BFCU9V@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net>; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 16:19:44 -0600 (CST) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA03137; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 16:21:06 -0600 (CST envelope-from chris) X-URL: http://www.FreeBSD.org/~chris/ Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 16:21:06 -0600 From: Chris Costello Subject: Re: -doc On-line TODO list (was: Re: Joining the Project) In-reply-to: <19991115174957.B6833@scorpion.crimea.ua> To: Alexey Zelkin Cc: Tommy Sweeney , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, ru-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ru Reply-To: chris@calldei.com Message-id: <19991115162105.G548@holly.calldei.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.4i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT (i386) References: <382C5FE0.C8DED682@crosswinds.net> <19991115174957.B6833@scorpion.crimea.ua> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Nov 15, 1999, Alexey Zelkin wrote: > Any additions ? Comments ? Takers ? . rewrite FAQ Me. You can see what I've uploaded (lags a little bit behind what I've done so far) at http://www.FreeBSD.org/~chris/newfaq/ -- |Chris Costello |How do I set my laser printer on stun? `-------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 15 14:36:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from monsoon.mail.pipex.net (monsoon.mail.pipex.net [158.43.128.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E857B14A2A for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 14:36:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: (qmail 13092 invoked from network); 15 Nov 1999 22:36:34 -0000 Received: from userbr09.uk.uudial.com (HELO marder-1.) (62.188.146.202) by smtp.dial.pipex.com with SMTP; 15 Nov 1999 22:36:34 -0000 Received: (from mark@localhost) by marder-1. (8.9.3/8.8.8) id WAA01130; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 22:36:03 GMT (envelope-from mark) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 22:36:03 +0000 From: Mark Ovens To: Nik Clayton Cc: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai , doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cp Message-ID: <19991115223603.B320@marder-1> References: <19991105203615.B12970@daemon.ninth-circle.org> <19991107203325.B316@marder-1> <19991114224607.B21117@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <19991114224607.B21117@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Nov 14, 1999 at 10:46:07PM +0000, Nik Clayton wrote: > On Sun, Nov 07, 1999 at 08:33:26PM +0000, Mark Ovens wrote: > > No they aren't, and I speak from experience. If FIFOs are involved > > then ``-r'' tries to copy the contents of the FIFO whereas ``-R'' > > copies the FIFO itself: > > > > cp.c line 402 > > e S_IFIFO: > > if (Rflag) { > > if (copy_fifo(curr->fts_statp, !dne)) > > rval = 1; > > } else { > > if (copy_file(curr, dne)) > > rval = 1; > > Man page patch? It doesn't need a patch. As others have pointed out in the thread, it's documented in the COMPATIBILITY section of the manpage. > > N > -- > If you want to imagine the future, imagine a tennis shoe stamping > on a penguin's face forever. > --- with apologies to George Orwell > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message -- STATE-OF-THE-ART: Any computer you can't afford. OBSOLETE: Any computer you own. ________________________________________________________________ FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark/ mailto:mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 15 14:39:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from melete.ch.intel.com (melete.ch.intel.com [143.182.246.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B10C614A2A; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 14:39:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com) Received: from sedona.intel.com (sedona.ch.intel.com [143.182.218.21]) by melete.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a+p1/8.9.1/d: relay.m4,v 1.11 1999/11/10 17:27:15 spurcell Exp $) with ESMTP id WAA18592; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 22:38:55 GMT Received: from hip186.ch.intel.com (hip186.ch.intel.com [143.182.225.68]) by sedona.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: sendmail.cf,v 1.8 1999/04/16 15:25:49 steved Exp steved $) with ESMTP id PAA01902; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 15:39:06 -0700 (MST) X-Envelope-From: jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com Received: (from jreynold@localhost) by hip186.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: client.m4,v 1.3 1998/09/29 16:36:11 sedayao Exp sedayao $) id RAA12819; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 17:39:31 -0500 (EST) From: John Reynolds~ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14384.35745.665089.165594@hip186.ch.intel.com> Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 15:39:29 -0700 (MST) To: Doug Barton Cc: "Jeffrey J. Libman" , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: please ignore this unforgiveable waste of bandwidth testing new mailserver! In-Reply-To: <382F1682.F53F898B@gorean.org> References: <382F1682.F53F898B@gorean.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under Emacs 19.34.1 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [ On Sunday, November 14, Doug Barton wrote: ] > "Jeffrey J. Libman" wrote: > > > > please ignore this unforgiveable waste of bandwidth testing new mail > > server! > > Sorry, this is unforgivable. NEVER EVER send test messages to a live > list. For FreeBSD you can send messages to test@freebsd.org. > > Doug We should probably list the fact that this "test" list exists on the website and in the handbook. The last time I did the above (and was flamed accordingly ;-) I looked to find any trace of "test@freebsd.org for testing your setups" in any piece of docs and couldn't find it. If nobody has time to edit the appropriate sections, I'll just place this on my "todo" list (ever-expanding of course :) and eventually send in a patch to -doc. But, the point is this freebsd-test@freebsd.org list isn't well advertised. -Jr -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | John Reynolds CEG, CCE, Next Generation Flows, HLA | | Intel Corporation MS: CH6-210 Phone: 480-554-9092 pgr: 868-6512 | | jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com http://www-aec.ch.intel.com/~jreynold/ | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 15 14:40:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mta2.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta2.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9233415157 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 14:40:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris@holly.dyndns.org) Received: from holly.dyndns.org ([216.62.157.60]) by mta2.rcsntx.swbell.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.09.16.21.57.p8) with ESMTP id <0FL900IXDGB5CD@mta2.rcsntx.swbell.net> for doc@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 16:40:18 -0600 (CST) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA03272 for doc@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 16:41:46 -0600 (CST envelope-from chris) X-URL: http://www.FreeBSD.org/~chris/ Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 16:41:46 -0600 From: Chris Costello Subject: FAQ notes. To: doc@FreeBSD.org Reply-To: chris@calldei.com Message-id: <19991115164146.I548@holly.calldei.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.4i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT (i386) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org As I've said before, I'm rewriting the FAQ. This FAQ will cover 3.X systems and will be laid out in a similar manner to the Handbook. Here's the current directory tree I'm working with: FAQ/ setup/ install.sgml kernelconfig.sgml hw.sgml troubleshooting.sgml applications/ commercial.sgml user.sgml administration/ ... file layout not completed ... misc/ ... communications/ ... hackers/ ... acknowledgements/ ... Makefile book.sgml chapters.ent preface.sgml An example of the actual layout of the FAQ is up at http://www.FreeBSD.org/~chris/newfaq/ Now I want your feedback on how I have it set up, and if you have any new FAQ entries, please submit them to me or freebsd-faq@FreeBSD.org! -- |Chris Costello |If you have a procedure with 10 parameters, you probably missed some. `--------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 15 15:31:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87912151A0; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 15:31:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phantom@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id PAA45872; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 15:31:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phantom@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 15:31:22 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <199911152331.PAA45872@freefall.freebsd.org> To: phantom@cris.net, phantom@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/13225: fpa.4 seems to be i386 specific and should be moved to man4/man.i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: fpa.4 seems to be i386 specific and should be moved to man4/man.i386 State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: phantom State-Changed-When: Mon Nov 15 15:28:15 PST 1999 State-Changed-Why: fpa.4 driver will be poted to Alpha in near future. So PR stays useless. I am closing it as satisfied originator :) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 15 15:33:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AAB515143; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 15:33:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phantom@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id PAA46056; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 15:33:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phantom@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 15:33:18 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <199911152333.PAA46056@freefall.freebsd.org> To: rfg@monkeys.com, phantom@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/14734: There is no rtld(1) man page Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: There is no rtld(1) man page State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: phantom State-Changed-When: Mon Nov 15 15:32:32 PST 1999 State-Changed-Why: Duplication of PR: 13333 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 15 16:42:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93B431524E for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 16:42:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA86413; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 20:28:56 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 20:28:56 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Chris Costello Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Structure proposal. Message-ID: <19991115202855.A86069@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19991114145750.K48527@holly.calldei.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19991114145750.K48527@holly.calldei.com>; from Chris Costello on Sun, Nov 14, 1999 at 02:57:50PM -0600 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Nov 14, 1999 at 02:57:50PM -0600, Chris Costello wrote: > Now that I'm rewriting the FAQ, I think a few things need to > be centralized. > > Things like the &rel.current; entity and mailing-lists.ent > should be moved into a share directory of some sort. Ideas? Yes. Anything that's not language specific should move in to a subdirectory of share/sgml/, anything that is language specific (see the Japanese and French directories for an example) should go in to share//sgml/. If we get enough of these, we should start thinking about splitting the share/sgml/ directory out. Maybe share/sgml/{dtd,entities,dsssl} to start with? N -- If you want to imagine the future, imagine a tennis shoe stamping on a penguin's face forever. --- with apologies to George Orwell To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 15 21:42:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mta3.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta3.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8498A14E5B; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 21:42:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris@holly.dyndns.org) Received: from holly.dyndns.org ([216.62.157.60]) by mta3.rcsntx.swbell.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.09.16.21.57.p8) with ESMTP id <0FL9007SKZUW4E@mta3.rcsntx.swbell.net>; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 23:42:32 -0600 (CST) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA04779; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 23:43:59 -0600 (CST envelope-from chris) X-URL: http://www.FreeBSD.org/~chris/ Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 23:43:59 -0600 From: Chris Costello Subject: Re: Structure proposal. In-reply-to: <19991115202855.A86069@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> To: Nik Clayton Cc: doc@freebsd.org Reply-To: chris@calldei.com Message-id: <19991115234358.P548@holly.calldei.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.4i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT (i386) References: <19991114145750.K48527@holly.calldei.com> <19991115202855.A86069@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Nov 15, 1999, Nik Clayton wrote: > Yes. Anything that's not language specific should move in to a > subdirectory of share/sgml/, anything that is language specific (see the > Japanese and French directories for an example) should go in to > share//sgml/. I just checked the *.ent files -- they get translated. So perhaps just a freebsd.ent should be added to share/sgml containing, say, rel.current and rel.next rel.next is my idea for the entity that will be used in things like: "... 3.3-STABLE which will eventually become 3.4-RELEASE ..." where only &rel.current; and &rel.next; are changed to make it "... 3.4-STABLE which will eventually become 3.5-RELEASE ..." -- |Chris Costello |...now touch these wires to your tongue! `---------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Nov 16 6: 2:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.kt.rim.or.jp (mail.kt.rim.or.jp [202.247.130.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F507151DC for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 06:02:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kuriyama@sky.rim.or.jp) Received: from rhea.sky.rim.or.jp (ppp392.kt.rim.or.jp [202.247.140.92]) by mail.kt.rim.or.jp (8.8.8/3.6W-RIMNET-98-06-09) with ESMTP id XAA11248; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 23:02:43 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost.sky.rim.or.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rhea.sky.rim.or.jp (8.9.3/3.7W/rhea-1.2) with ESMTP id XAA02442; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 23:02:42 +0900 (JST) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 23:02:39 +0900 Message-ID: <14385.25598.916085.72159A@localhost.sky.rim.or.jp> From: Jun Kuriyama To: chris@calldei.com Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FAQ notes. In-Reply-To: In your message of "Mon, 15 Nov 1999 16:41:46 -0600" <19991115164146.I548@holly.calldei.com> References: <19991115164146.I548@holly.calldei.com> User-Agent: Wanderlust/1.0.3 (Notorious) SEMI/1.13.3 (Komaiko) FLIM/1.12.5 (Hirahata) MULE XEmacs/20.4 (Emerald) (i386--freebsd) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.13.3 - "Komaiko") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org From: Chris Costello > As I've said before, I'm rewriting the FAQ. This FAQ will > cover 3.X systems and will be laid out in a similar manner to the > Handbook. Here's the current directory tree I'm working with: Sorry for my lack of time to check your changes in FAQ. Do these changes contain content change? Or only changes of document structure? Jun Kuriyama // kuriyama@sky.rim.or.jp // kuriyama@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Nov 16 6:13:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mta1.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta1.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35F0D14C46 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 06:13:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris@holly.dyndns.org) Received: from holly.dyndns.org ([216.62.157.60]) by mta1.rcsntx.swbell.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.09.16.21.57.p8) with ESMTP id <0FLA00M00NHJDZ@mta1.rcsntx.swbell.net> for doc@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 08:12:56 -0600 (CST) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA05851; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 08:14:21 -0600 (CST envelope-from chris) X-URL: http://www.FreeBSD.org/~chris/ Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 08:14:20 -0600 From: Chris Costello Subject: Re: FAQ notes. In-reply-to: <14385.25598.916085.72159A@localhost.sky.rim.or.jp> To: Jun Kuriyama Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chris@calldei.com Message-id: <19991116081420.R548@holly.calldei.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.4i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT (i386) References: <19991115164146.I548@holly.calldei.com> <14385.25598.916085.72159A@localhost.sky.rim.or.jp> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Nov 16, 1999, Jun Kuriyama wrote: > From: Chris Costello > > As I've said before, I'm rewriting the FAQ. This FAQ will > > cover 3.X systems and will be laid out in a similar manner to the > > Handbook. Here's the current directory tree I'm working with: > > Sorry for my lack of time to check your changes in FAQ. Do these > changes contain content change? Or only changes of document > structure? Both. It's being updated for 3.X and being restructured, but there's some useful content in the original FAQ already. No need to rewrite the wheel. -- |Chris Costello |No extensible language will be universal. - T. Cheatham `-------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Nov 16 6:23:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.40.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF5D414DE1 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 06:23:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA25694 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 15:23:30 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: wishlist item: in schematic form From: Poul-Henning Kamp Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 15:23:30 +0100 Message-ID: <25692.942762210@critter.freebsd.dk> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Once again I've found myself doodling on my notepad to figure out what the heck the stuff in looks like. It would be really nice if we had some schematics in the handbook which showed how these things look, what points where etc etc, just some boxes and some arrows. -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." FreeBSD -- It will take a long time before progress goes too far! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Nov 16 10:55:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87A9C14C8F for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 10:55:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: from kilt.nothing-going-on.org (kilt.nothing-going-on.org [192.168.1.18]) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA49711; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 18:50:32 GMT (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by kilt.nothing-going-on.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA92197; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 08:05:47 GMT (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 08:05:47 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Chris Costello Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FAQ notes. Message-ID: <19991116080547.B92155@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19991115164146.I548@holly.calldei.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19991115164146.I548@holly.calldei.com>; from Chris Costello on Mon, Nov 15, 1999 at 04:41:46PM -0600 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Nov 15, 1999 at 04:41:46PM -0600, Chris Costello wrote: > As I've said before, I'm rewriting the FAQ. This FAQ will > cover 3.X systems and will be laid out in a similar manner to the > Handbook. Here's the current directory tree I'm working with: > > FAQ/ > setup/ > install.sgml > kernelconfig.sgml > hw.sgml > troubleshooting.sgml What's wrong with the /chapter.sgml convention? > An example of the actual layout of the FAQ is up at > http://www.FreeBSD.org/~chris/newfaq/ I'll check that out later today, and get back to you (I need a cable modem, the Internet infrastructure in the UK really, really, sucks). N -- If you want to imagine the future, imagine a tennis shoe stamping on a penguin's face forever. --- with apologies to George Orwell To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Nov 16 10:57:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7CEA14D5A; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 10:56:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: from kilt.nothing-going-on.org (kilt.nothing-going-on.org [192.168.1.18]) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA49717; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 18:50:32 GMT (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by kilt.nothing-going-on.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA92184; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 08:03:41 GMT (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 08:03:41 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai Cc: Alexey Zelkin , nik@FreeBSD.org, doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: tutorials Message-ID: <19991116080341.A92155@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19991115173853.A6833@scorpion.crimea.ua> <19991115201733.B19819@daemon.ninth-circle.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19991115201733.B19819@daemon.ninth-circle.org>; from Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai on Mon, Nov 15, 1999 at 08:17:33PM +0100 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Nov 15, 1999 at 08:17:33PM +0100, Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote: > -On [19991115 18:41], Alexey Zelkin (phantom@cris.net) wrote: > >Why doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/tutorials still exists ? Almost all documents > >from this directory already converted to docbook and located at other places. > > > >tutorials/disklessx -> articles/diskless-x > >tutorials/ppp -> books/ppp-primer > > > >and ancient Device Driver Programmer Guide which require compelete rewriting. > > Working on that as we speak, but I get sidetracked continuously since I > want to have manpages written as well to fill the gaps. I'm inclined to agree with Alexey. Removing these from the CVS tree won't inconvenience you Jeroen, will it? You know that you can always pull them back in your local copy of the CVS tree? N -- If you want to imagine the future, imagine a tennis shoe stamping on a penguin's face forever. --- with apologies to George Orwell To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Nov 16 11: 0:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mta3.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta3.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B85E14C8F; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 11:00:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris@holly.dyndns.org) Received: from holly.dyndns.org ([216.62.157.60]) by mta3.rcsntx.swbell.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.09.16.21.57.p8) with ESMTP id <0FLB00KSI0SCHG@mta3.rcsntx.swbell.net>; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 13:00:15 -0600 (CST) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA06999; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 13:01:36 -0600 (CST envelope-from chris) X-URL: http://www.FreeBSD.org/~chris/ Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 13:01:35 -0600 From: Chris Costello Subject: Re: FAQ notes. In-reply-to: <19991116080547.B92155@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> To: Nik Clayton Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chris@calldei.com Message-id: <19991116130135.C548@holly.calldei.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.4i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT (i386) References: <19991115164146.I548@holly.calldei.com> <19991116080547.B92155@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Nov 16, 1999, Nik Clayton wrote: > > setup/ > > install.sgml > > kernelconfig.sgml > > hw.sgml > > troubleshooting.sgml > > > > What's wrong with the /chapter.sgml convention? Essentially each of those are different chapters. "Setup" is a of the book. So you'd see I. Setup 1. Installing FreeBSD 2. Hardware Compatibility 3. Kernel Configuration 4. Troubleshooting ... > I'll check that out later today, and get back to you (I need a cable modem, > the Internet infrastructure in the UK really, really, sucks). Oh, I've heard horror stories. -- |Chris Costello |My BBS is baroque now. Please call Bach later with your Handel. `---------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Nov 16 12:11: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp01.wxs.nl (smtp01.wxs.nl [195.121.6.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77485152A2; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 12:09:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.196.2]) by smtp01.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with ESMTP id AAA351A; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 21:09:17 +0100 Received: (from asmodai@localhost) by daemon.ninth-circle.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA00456; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 20:45:10 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from asmodai) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 20:45:09 +0100 From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: Nik Clayton Cc: Alexey Zelkin , doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: tutorials Message-ID: <19991116204509.A99933@daemon.ninth-circle.org> References: <19991115173853.A6833@scorpion.crimea.ua> <19991115201733.B19819@daemon.ninth-circle.org> <19991116080341.A92155@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3i In-Reply-To: <19991116080341.A92155@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> Organisation: Ninth-Circle Enterprises Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -On [19991116 20:02], Nik Clayton (nik@freebsd.org) wrote: >On Mon, Nov 15, 1999 at 08:17:33PM +0100, Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote: >> -On [19991115 18:41], Alexey Zelkin (phantom@cris.net) wrote: >> >Why doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/tutorials still exists ? Almost all documents >> >from this directory already converted to docbook and located at other places. >> > >> >tutorials/disklessx -> articles/diskless-x >> >tutorials/ppp -> books/ppp-primer >> > >> >and ancient Device Driver Programmer Guide which require compelete rewriting. >> >> Working on that as we speak, but I get sidetracked continuously since I >> want to have manpages written as well to fill the gaps. > >I'm inclined to agree with Alexey. Removing these from the CVS tree won't >inconvenience you Jeroen, will it? You know that you can always pull them >back in your local copy of the CVS tree? Be my guest. I keep a local copy of the real CVS tree here (doc, ports, src, gnats) complete with all the Attics and ,v files I need. =) So be my guest. It wouldn't hinder me. I think I am going to import the 2.x DDWG into my document as 2.x reference. Anyone know how to do a repo-cpoy? =) -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven/Asmodai asmodai(at)wxs.nl The BSD Programmer's Documentation Project Network/Security Specialist BSD: Technical excellence at its best Seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Nov 16 12:29:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.dsl.net (mail.dsl.net [209.87.64.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C127A14E31 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 12:29:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from James.Brady@dsl.net) Received: from nhct04.dsl.net (nhct04.dsl.net [216.224.55.250]) by mail.dsl.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA29775 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 15:29:43 -0500 Received: by nhct04.dsl.net with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 15:29:42 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Brady, James" To: "'freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org'" Subject: Handbook Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 15:29:42 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Please send latest update when avail.. Jim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Nov 16 12:33:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mta3.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta3.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 996E914E2E for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 12:33:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris@holly.dyndns.org) Received: from holly.dyndns.org ([216.62.157.60]) by mta3.rcsntx.swbell.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.09.16.21.57.p8) with ESMTP id <0FLB003GC53CKJ@mta3.rcsntx.swbell.net> for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 14:33:13 -0600 (CST) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA07501; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 14:34:31 -0600 (CST envelope-from chris) X-URL: http://www.FreeBSD.org/~chris/ Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 14:34:26 -0600 From: Chris Costello Subject: Re: Handbook In-reply-to: To: "Brady, James" Cc: "'freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org'" Reply-To: chris@calldei.com Message-id: <19991116143426.B7229@holly.calldei.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.4i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT (i386) References: Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Nov 16, 1999, Brady, James wrote: > Please send latest update when avail.. Certainly. It will be waiting for you at http://www.FreeBSD.org/handbook for each update. Free of charge. -- |Chris Costello |One man's constant is another man's variable. - Perlis `------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Nov 16 15:52:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from kiwi.mail.easynet.net (kiwi.mail.easynet.net [195.40.1.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C12314EC2 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 15:52:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andrew@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: from cream.org (boothman.easynet.co.uk [194.154.100.117]) by kiwi.mail.easynet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BAFEDB12F for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 23:52:36 +0000 (GMT) Content-Length: 686 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 23:51:38 -0000 (GMT) From: Andrew Boothman To: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Documentation Index Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi All, I've been _really_ busy lately, hence the total silence from me. But for those of you interested in following what I'm up to, there's some updated bits and pieces on http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~andrew/docindex/ Check in particular the new README file, a new example HTML index, and the recent changes made to the script itself. I've not had chance to look at Mark Ovans' patches, but they will follow in due course (they DONT apply to the files currently on my site). As always, any comments or questions to myself and the list. Thanks! --- Andrew Boothman FreeBSD UK User Group http://ukug.uk.FreeBSD.org/~andrew/ http://ukug.uk.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Nov 16 19: 0: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 649B814FB7 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 19:00:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id TAA52653; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 19:00:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from cc158233-a.catv1.md.home.com (cc158233-a.catv1.md.home.com [24.3.25.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87F8614FB4 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 18:59:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sjr@home.net) Received: (from sjr@localhost) by cc158233-a.catv1.md.home.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA13323; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 21:58:52 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from sjr) Message-Id: <199911170258.VAA13323@cc158233-a.catv1.md.home.com> Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 21:58:52 -0500 (EST) From: sjr@home.com Reply-To: sjr@home.com To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org, peter@netplex.com.au X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/14936: Update for chpass.1 man page Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 14936 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Update for chpass.1 man page >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Nov 16 19:00:01 PST 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Stephen J. Roznowski >Release: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: >Environment: >Description: The chpass man page is missing the -e flag. This patch also adds a NIS call line. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: --- chpass.1.orig Tue Nov 16 21:23:45 1999 +++ chpass.1 Tue Nov 16 21:52:48 1999 @@ -32,7 +32,7 @@ .\" @(#)chpass.1 8.2 (Berkeley) 12/30/93 .\" $FreeBSD: src/usr.bin/chpass/chpass.1,v 1.18 1999/10/30 15:12:04 phantom Exp $ .\" -.Dd December 30, 1993 +.Dd November 16, 1999 .Dt CHPASS 1 .Os .Sh NAME @@ -42,8 +42,19 @@ .Nm chpass .Op Fl a Ar list .Op Fl p Ar encpass +.Op Fl e Ar expiretime .Op Fl s Ar newshell .Op user +.Pp +.Nm chpass +.Op Fl oly +.Op Fl a Ar list +.Op Fl p Ar encpass +.Op Fl e Ar expiretime +.Op Fl s Ar newshell +.Op Fl d Ar domain +.Op Fl h Ar host +.Op user .Sh DESCRIPTION The .Nm chpass @@ -72,6 +83,10 @@ in the format used by .Xr crypt 3 , as an argument. +.It Fl e +Change the account expire time. This option is used to set the +expire time from a script as if it was done +in the interactive editor. .It Fl s The .Fl s >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Nov 16 19:10: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8BD114FC0 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 19:10:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id TAA53371; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 19:10:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 19:10:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199911170310.TAA53371@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Chris Costello Subject: Re: docs/14936: Update for chpass.1 man page Reply-To: Chris Costello Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/14936; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Chris Costello To: sjr@home.com Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG, peter@netplex.com.au Subject: Re: docs/14936: Update for chpass.1 man page Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 21:08:25 -0600 On Tue, Nov 16, 1999, sjr@home.com wrote: > -.Dd December 30, 1993 > +.Dd November 16, 1999 You don't need to update this date since you didn't rewrite it. -- |Chris Costello |Old Mcdonald had a computer, with EIA I/O. `------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 17 3:34:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (baerenklau.de.freebsd.org [195.185.195.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D57015148; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 03:34:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id MAA02603; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 12:34:48 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from wosch@localhost) by paula.panke.de.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.8.8) id MAA01665; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 12:27:11 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wosch) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 12:27:11 +0100 From: Wolfram Schneider To: Nik Clayton Cc: Wolfram Schneider , doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [tege@swox.com: gif problems] Message-ID: <19991117122711.B1627@paula.panke.de.freebsd.org> References: <19991108104258.B23403@freno.cs.tu-berlin.de> <19991114224908.C21117@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <19991114224908.C21117@catkin.nothing-going-on.org>; from nik@freebsd.org on Sun, Nov 14, 1999 at 10:49:08PM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 1999-11-14 22:49:08 +0000, Nik Clayton wrote: > On Mon, Nov 08, 1999 at 10:42:58AM +0100, Wolfram Schneider wrote: > > From: Torbjorn Granlund > > Please consider converting your gif images to png. www.burnallgifs.org. > > OK, you're the WebMaster. What do you think? It is on my nice to have list. > Personally, I suspect PNG support is built into enough browsers that we're > not going to lose an audience by converting all the GIF files in the > repository to PNG. Really? Anybody tested PNG with Netscape 3.x, 4.0x, 4.x, Mozilla on FreeBSD/Linux/Solaris/MacOS, with 2,4,256,65536 or more Colors??? And don't forget to test IE 3.x, 4.x, 5.x on Windows 3.11, 95, 98, NT and 2000. -- Wolfram Schneider http://wolfram.schneider.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 17 5:22:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail07.rapidsite.net (mail07.rapidsite.net [207.158.192.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A2BC915267 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 05:22:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from heiki@koreansource.com) Received: from www.koreansource.com (209.130.70.80) by mail07.rapidsite.net (RS ver 1.0.53) with SMTP id 06115859; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 08:22:03 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <00c001bf3100$005e3c00$ec00cdd2@heiki> From: "Heiki Yoon" To: "Heiki Yoon" Subject: MP3 ADVANCED TECHNOLOGY PLAYERS Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 22:30:37 +0900 Organization: KoreanSource MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00B8_01BF314B.5ECA7CE0" 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hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F32DA14A03 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 10:36:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rfg@monkeys.com) Received: (from rfg@localhost) by monkeys.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA87233; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 10:36:34 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199911171836.KAA87233@monkeys.com> Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 10:36:34 -0800 (PST) From: "Ronald F. Guilmette" Reply-To: rfg@monkeys.com (Ronald F. Guilmette) To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/14952: Missing man page (terminfo(5)) mentioned on tconv(1) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 14952 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Missing man page (terminfo(5)) mentioned on tconv(1) >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Nov 17 10:40:01 PST 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Ronald F. Guilmette >Release: FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386 >Organization: E-Scrub Technologies, Inc. >Environment: >Description: The tconv(1) man page says: SEE ALSO ... terminfo(5) but `man 5 terminfo' produces only: No entry for terminfo in section 5 of the manual >How-To-Repeat: man 5 terminfo >Fix: Add the missing terminfo(5) man page. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 17 10:44:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from sonet.crimea.ua (OTC-sl3-FLY.CRIS.NET [212.110.136.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92C4714F2C; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 10:43:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sonet.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id UAA19372; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 20:46:51 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by scorpion.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.5+ssl+keepalive) id UAA17424; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 20:03:57 +0300 (MSK) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 20:03:57 +0300 From: Alexey Zelkin To: Wolfram Schneider Cc: Nik Clayton , Wolfram Schneider , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [tege@swox.com: gif problems] Message-ID: <19991117200357.A17330@scorpion.crimea.ua> References: <19991108104258.B23403@freno.cs.tu-berlin.de> <19991114224908.C21117@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <19991117122711.B1627@paula.panke.de.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.7i In-Reply-To: <19991117122711.B1627@paula.panke.de.freebsd.org> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.7-RELEASE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi, On Wed, Nov 17, 1999 at 12:27:11PM +0100, Wolfram Schneider wrote: > > Personally, I suspect PNG support is built into enough browsers that we're > > not going to lose an audience by converting all the GIF files in the > > repository to PNG. > > Really? Anybody tested PNG with Netscape 3.x, 4.0x, 4.x, Mozilla > on FreeBSD/Linux/Solaris/MacOS, with 2,4,256,65536 or more Colors??? > > And don't forget to test IE 3.x, 4.x, 5.x on Windows > 3.11, 95, 98, NT and 2000. Why not to switch to JPEG then ? I sure that JPEG is supporting by all of them. PS: As I know version 3 browsers don't support PNG. Also I now sure about Linux and FreeBSD versions :( -- /* Alexey Zelkin && phantom@cris.net */ /* Tavric National University && phantom@crimea.edu */ /* http://www.ccssu.crimea.ua/~phantom && phantom@FreeBSD.org */ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 17 10:47:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from sonet.crimea.ua (OTC-sl3-FLY.CRIS.NET [212.110.136.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A863714F1F; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 10:46:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sonet.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id UAA19404; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 20:50:28 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by scorpion.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.5+ssl+keepalive) id UAA22543; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 20:43:38 +0300 (MSK) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 20:43:38 +0300 From: Alexey Zelkin To: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai Cc: Nik Clayton , doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: tutorials Message-ID: <19991117204338.B17330@scorpion.crimea.ua> References: <19991115173853.A6833@scorpion.crimea.ua> <19991115201733.B19819@daemon.ninth-circle.org> <19991116080341.A92155@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> <19991116204509.A99933@daemon.ninth-circle.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.7i In-Reply-To: <19991116204509.A99933@daemon.ninth-circle.org> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.7-RELEASE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi, On Tue, Nov 16, 1999 at 08:45:09PM +0100, Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote: > >I'm inclined to agree with Alexey. Removing these from the CVS tree won't > >inconvenience you Jeroen, will it? You know that you can always pull them > >back in your local copy of the CVS tree? > > Be my guest. > > I keep a local copy of the real CVS tree here (doc, ports, src, gnats) > complete with all the Attics and ,v files I need. =) > > So be my guest. It wouldn't hinder me. I think I am going to import > the 2.x DDWG into my document as 2.x reference. Anyone know how to do a > repo-cpoy? =) Why do you need repo-copy ? You wanna save history of development ? As I can understand DDWG will be completely rewriten, therefore we can remove current tutorials/ddwg and import new ddwg (for FreeBSD 3.x/4.x) then (and to new place). As for me current history associated with ddwg.sgml is absolutely useless for new version of the Guide. I am going to remove doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/tutorials. Any objections ? -- /* Alexey Zelkin && phantom@cris.net */ /* Tavric National University && phantom@crimea.edu */ /* http://www.ccssu.crimea.ua/~phantom && phantom@FreeBSD.org */ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 17 10:49:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from sonet.crimea.ua (OTC-sl3-FLY.CRIS.NET [212.110.136.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A34B314FF0 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 10:49:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sonet.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id UAA19417; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 20:52:21 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by scorpion.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.5+ssl+keepalive) id UAA22647; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 20:52:51 +0300 (MSK) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 20:52:51 +0300 From: Alexey Zelkin To: Chris Costello Cc: Jun Kuriyama , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FAQ notes. Message-ID: <19991117205251.C17330@scorpion.crimea.ua> References: <19991115164146.I548@holly.calldei.com> <14385.25598.916085.72159A@localhost.sky.rim.or.jp> <19991116081420.R548@holly.calldei.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.7i In-Reply-To: <19991116081420.R548@holly.calldei.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.7-RELEASE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi, On Tue, Nov 16, 1999 at 08:14:20AM -0600, Chris Costello wrote: > > Sorry for my lack of time to check your changes in FAQ. Do these > > changes contain content change? Or only changes of document > > structure? > > Both. It's being updated for 3.X and being restructured, but > there's some useful content in the original FAQ already. No need > to rewrite the wheel. I really don't see enough reasons to split faq into chapters. What purpose of the splitting ? I see only one reason for now -- make a lot of additional work for translators :-) Also I quite sure that you have to do structural and content changes separately. (Hope you don't forget about translators). And don't do anything without exact approvement of -doc people, Ok ? Last lessons of doc/ structure rebuilding and grep importing will not be forgotten. -- /* Alexey Zelkin && phantom@cris.net */ /* Tavric National University && phantom@crimea.edu */ /* http://www.ccssu.crimea.ua/~phantom && phantom@FreeBSD.org */ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 17 11:31:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp02.wxs.nl (smtp02.wxs.nl [195.121.6.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E005C14A24; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 11:31:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.196.136]) by smtp02.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with ESMTP id AAA6918; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 20:31:48 +0100 Received: (from asmodai@localhost) by daemon.ninth-circle.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA20260; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 20:31:40 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from asmodai) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 20:31:40 +0100 From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: Alexey Zelkin Cc: Nik Clayton , doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: tutorials Message-ID: <19991117203140.C18826@daemon.ninth-circle.org> References: <19991115173853.A6833@scorpion.crimea.ua> <19991115201733.B19819@daemon.ninth-circle.org> <19991116080341.A92155@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> <19991116204509.A99933@daemon.ninth-circle.org> <19991117204338.B17330@scorpion.crimea.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3i In-Reply-To: <19991117204338.B17330@scorpion.crimea.ua> Organisation: Ninth-Circle Enterprises Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -On [19991117 19:50], Alexey Zelkin (phantom@cris.net) wrote: >On Tue, Nov 16, 1999 at 08:45:09PM +0100, Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote: > >> >I'm inclined to agree with Alexey. Removing these from the CVS tree won't >> >inconvenience you Jeroen, will it? You know that you can always pull them >> >back in your local copy of the CVS tree? >> >> Be my guest. >> >> I keep a local copy of the real CVS tree here (doc, ports, src, gnats) >> complete with all the Attics and ,v files I need. =) >> >> So be my guest. It wouldn't hinder me. I think I am going to import >> the 2.x DDWG into my document as 2.x reference. Anyone know how to do a >> repo-cpoy? =) > >Why do you need repo-copy ? You wanna save history of development ? For myself. That and I want to know how it is done. >As I can understand DDWG will be completely rewriten, therefore we >can remove current tutorials/ddwg and import new ddwg (for FreeBSD 3.x/4.x) >then (and to new place). As I said above. Be my guest. The new DDWG will be 2.x, 3.x and 4.x as still a lot of people seem to want to support 2.x and I hope to provide migrating tips. >As for me current history associated with ddwg.sgml is absolutely >useless for new version of the Guide. Mayhaps. I will look at it. I haven't done that yet. =) >I am going to remove doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/tutorials. Any objections ? Not from my side. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven/Asmodai asmodai(at)wxs.nl The BSD Programmer's Documentation Project Network/Security Specialist BSD: Technical excellence at its best In every stone sleeps a crystal... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 17 11:39:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp05.wxs.nl (smtp05.wxs.nl [195.121.6.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B4B914C1B; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 11:39:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.196.136]) by smtp05.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with ESMTP id AAA5CDF; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 20:39:34 +0100 Received: (from asmodai@localhost) by daemon.ninth-circle.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA20434; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 20:39:26 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from asmodai) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 20:39:26 +0100 From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: Wolfram Schneider Cc: Nik Clayton , Wolfram Schneider , doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [tege@swox.com: gif problems] Message-ID: <19991117203926.D18826@daemon.ninth-circle.org> References: <19991108104258.B23403@freno.cs.tu-berlin.de> <19991114224908.C21117@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <19991117122711.B1627@paula.panke.de.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3i In-Reply-To: <19991117122711.B1627@paula.panke.de.freebsd.org> Organisation: Ninth-Circle Enterprises Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -On [19991117 16:00], Wolfram Schneider (wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org) wrote: >On 1999-11-14 22:49:08 +0000, Nik Clayton wrote: > >> Personally, I suspect PNG support is built into enough browsers that we're >> not going to lose an audience by converting all the GIF files in the >> repository to PNG. You suspect wrongly though. =\ >Really? Anybody tested PNG with Netscape 3.x, 4.0x, 4.x, Mozilla >on FreeBSD/Linux/Solaris/MacOS, with 2,4,256,65536 or more Colors??? PNG fails on pre 4.x browsers if memory serves me right. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven/Asmodai asmodai(at)wxs.nl The BSD Programmer's Documentation Project Network/Security Specialist BSD: Technical excellence at its best The way you're bathed in Light, reminds me of that Night, god laid me down into your rose garden of Trust... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 17 13:45:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mta2.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta2.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D5CB1538F for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 13:45:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris@holly.dyndns.org) Received: from holly.dyndns.org ([216.62.157.60]) by mta2.rcsntx.swbell.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.09.16.21.57.p8) with ESMTP id <0FLD00J6731X78@mta2.rcsntx.swbell.net> for doc@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 15:44:43 -0600 (CST) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA13746; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 15:45:39 -0600 (CST envelope-from chris) X-URL: http://www.FreeBSD.org/~chris/ Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 15:45:36 -0600 From: Chris Costello Subject: Re: FAQ notes. In-reply-to: <19991117205251.C17330@scorpion.crimea.ua> To: Alexey Zelkin Cc: Jun Kuriyama , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chris@calldei.com Message-id: <19991117154536.J7229@holly.calldei.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.4i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT (i386) References: <19991115164146.I548@holly.calldei.com> <14385.25598.916085.72159A@localhost.sky.rim.or.jp> <19991116081420.R548@holly.calldei.com> <19991117205251.C17330@scorpion.crimea.ua> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Nov 17, 1999, Alexey Zelkin wrote: > I really don't see enough reasons to split faq into chapters. > What purpose of the splitting ? I see only one reason for now -- make > a lot of additional work for translators :-) It's more organized. > Also I quite sure that you have to do structural and content > changes separately. (Hope you don't forget about translators). It should be treated as a rewrite. > And don't do anything without exact approvement of -doc people, Ok ? > Last lessons of doc/ structure rebuilding and grep importing will not > be forgotten. I'm aware. -- |Chris Costello |Lynch's Law: When the going gets tough, everyone leaves. `-------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Nov 18 9:17:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (imo11.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C797F14F04 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 09:17:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from REALLYNORTIE@aol.com) Received: from REALLYNORTIE@aol.com by imo11.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.4.) id n.0.ca16263e (4362); Thu, 18 Nov 1999 12:17:25 -0500 (EST) From: REALLYNORTIE@aol.com Message-ID: <0.ca16263e.25658ea5@aol.com> Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 12:17:25 EST Subject: (no subject) To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: Browzer@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 22 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Nov 18 9:56:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ns.skylink.it (ns.skylink.it [194.177.113.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FD1A15440 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 09:56:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hibma@skylink.it) Received: from skylink.it (va-180.skylink.it [194.185.55.180]) by ns.skylink.it (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA05506 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 18:56:42 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by skylink.it (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA01036 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 18:14:23 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from hibma@skylink.it) Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 18:14:23 +0100 (CET) From: Nick Hibma X-Sender: n_hibma@henny.jrc.it Reply-To: Nick Hibma To: FreeBSD Documentation Mailing List Subject: open manpage Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In the manpage for open it says for O_NONBLOCK: O_RDONLY open for reading only O_WRONLY open for writing only O_RDWR open for reading and writing O_NONBLOCK do not block on open O_APPEND append on each write Shouldn't that be 'do not block for read'? Nick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Nov 18 11:14:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30FEA1552B; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 11:10:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: from kilt.nothing-going-on.org (kilt.nothing-going-on.org [192.168.1.18]) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA04239; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 19:06:00 GMT (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by kilt.nothing-going-on.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA93600; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 08:14:04 GMT (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 08:14:04 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Poul-Henning Kamp Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: wishlist item: in schematic form Message-ID: <19991118081404.C93488@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> References: <25692.942762210@critter.freebsd.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <25692.942762210@critter.freebsd.dk>; from Poul-Henning Kamp on Tue, Nov 16, 1999 at 03:23:30PM +0100 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Nov 16, 1999 at 03:23:30PM +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > Once again I've found myself doodling on my notepad to figure out > what the heck the stuff in looks like. > > It would be really nice if we had some schematics in the handbook > which showed how these things look, what points where etc etc, > just some boxes and some arrows. Can you scan these doodles in, and send me a GIF file? Also, is the Handbook the best place for this? After reading the comments in , I would have thought that queue(3) would be more appropriate? N -- If you want to imagine the future, imagine a tennis shoe stamping on a penguin's face forever. --- with apologies to George Orwell To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Nov 18 11:15: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD0D215587; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 11:10:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: from kilt.nothing-going-on.org (kilt.nothing-going-on.org [192.168.1.18]) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA04244; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 19:06:00 GMT (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by kilt.nothing-going-on.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA93524; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 08:01:42 GMT (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 08:01:42 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Chris Costello Cc: Nik Clayton , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FAQ notes. Message-ID: <19991118080141.A93488@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19991115164146.I548@holly.calldei.com> <19991116080547.B92155@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> <19991116130135.C548@holly.calldei.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19991116130135.C548@holly.calldei.com>; from Chris Costello on Tue, Nov 16, 1999 at 01:01:35PM -0600 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Nov 16, 1999 at 01:01:35PM -0600, Chris Costello wrote: > On Tue, Nov 16, 1999, Nik Clayton wrote: > > > setup/ > > > install.sgml > > > kernelconfig.sgml > > > hw.sgml > > > troubleshooting.sgml > > > > > > > > What's wrong with the /chapter.sgml convention? > > Essentially each of those are different chapters. "Setup" is > a of the book. The Handbook is organised the same way. The reasons for giving each chapter it's own directory are 1. If you decide to move the chapter in to another part then it's easy, you just shuffle the entity in the top level book.sgml. With the approach you propose you'd need to do CVS repo work in order to do this (and keep the tree consistent). 2. When we get around to adding images to the Handbook (or FAQ in this case) it's very easy to keep the images with the chapter they are used in. 3. [ There are more, but it's very early and I'm on the train, so I'm not fully awake yet ] N -- If you want to imagine the future, imagine a tennis shoe stamping on a penguin's face forever. --- with apologies to George Orwell To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Nov 18 11:16:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C528D15487 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 11:10:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: from kilt.nothing-going-on.org (kilt.nothing-going-on.org [192.168.1.18]) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA04245; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 19:06:01 GMT (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by kilt.nothing-going-on.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA93537; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 08:09:01 GMT (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 08:09:01 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Chris Costello Cc: Alexey Zelkin , Jun Kuriyama , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FAQ notes. Message-ID: <19991118080901.B93488@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19991115164146.I548@holly.calldei.com> <14385.25598.916085.72159A@localhost.sky.rim.or.jp> <19991116081420.R548@holly.calldei.com> <19991117205251.C17330@scorpion.crimea.ua> <19991117154536.J7229@holly.calldei.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19991117154536.J7229@holly.calldei.com>; from Chris Costello on Wed, Nov 17, 1999 at 03:45:36PM -0600 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Nov 17, 1999 at 03:45:36PM -0600, Chris Costello wrote: > On Wed, Nov 17, 1999, Alexey Zelkin wrote: > > I really don't see enough reasons to split faq into chapters. > > What purpose of the splitting ? I see only one reason for now -- make > > a lot of additional work for translators :-) > > It's more organized. > > > Also I quite sure that you have to do structural and content > > changes separately. (Hope you don't forget about translators). > > It should be treated as a rewrite. Please don't. To do this so it's as painless as possible for the translators, we (i.e., you :-) ) should be: 1. Block out a new structure for the FAQ. It looks like you've got that far. 2. Transferring content from the old structure to the new structure wholesale. The commit messages for this should give precise details about what was copied where: "Copied paragraphs 1 thru 4 of the foo-bar section in to the middle of foo-bar/chapter.sgml." That way the translators can mirror your actions. 3. Rewriting text in separate commits. This is pretty much how the Handbook conversion to DocBook went, with me annotating what I did in a README file as I went (with appropriate command lines, or Emacs Lisp fragments to carry out what I did) for the translators. Asking our translation teams to re-translate the FAQ from scratch is, IMHO, asking for far too much of their time and effort. I don't mean to sound negative. The FAQ needs work doing to it, and it's great that someone's now putting their name to that work. But we don't want to be in a situation where we have a spiffy new English FAQ while the translations lag far behind. N -- If you want to imagine the future, imagine a tennis shoe stamping on a penguin's face forever. --- with apologies to George Orwell To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Nov 18 11:23: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 001A41577A; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 11:22:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: from kilt.nothing-going-on.org (kilt.nothing-going-on.org [192.168.1.18]) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA04246; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 19:06:01 GMT (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by kilt.nothing-going-on.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA93634; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 08:19:17 GMT (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 08:19:17 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai Cc: Alexey Zelkin , Nik Clayton , doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: tutorials Message-ID: <19991118081917.D93488@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19991115173853.A6833@scorpion.crimea.ua> <19991115201733.B19819@daemon.ninth-circle.org> <19991116080341.A92155@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> <19991116204509.A99933@daemon.ninth-circle.org> <19991117204338.B17330@scorpion.crimea.ua> <19991117203140.C18826@daemon.ninth-circle.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19991117203140.C18826@daemon.ninth-circle.org>; from Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai on Wed, Nov 17, 1999 at 08:31:40PM +0100 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Nov 17, 1999 at 08:31:40PM +0100, Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote: > >> So be my guest. It wouldn't hinder me. I think I am going to import > >> the 2.x DDWG into my document as 2.x reference. Anyone know how to do a > >> repo-cpoy? =) > > > >Why do you need repo-copy ? You wanna save history of development ? > > For myself. That and I want to know how it is done. Ah, I see. So if you're new document was going to be .../articles/writing-device-drivers/article.sgml (for example) then you want the existing tutorials/ddwg/ddwg.sgml copied in to place first. OK, we could do it. But if you're document is going to be a complete rewrite then with your first commit you will be deleting all the old lines and adding in new ones. This isn't particularly useful from a CVS historian point of view, because the diff will be huge. Keep in mind that anyone that's in a position to see the history for your new document should be in a position to see the history for the old document as well. You might want to include a URL to the CVSWeb interface for the old document in yours. > >As I can understand DDWG will be completely rewriten, therefore we > >can remove current tutorials/ddwg and import new ddwg (for FreeBSD 3.x/4.x) > >then (and to new place). > > As I said above. Be my guest. The new DDWG will be 2.x, 3.x and 4.x as > still a lot of people seem to want to support 2.x and I hope to provide > migrating tips. That's good news. Perhaps we could use this article to prototype the new mechanism for including OS version specific information in the documentation? > >I am going to remove doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/tutorials. Any objections ? > > Not from my side. Nope, go for it. N -- If you want to imagine the future, imagine a tennis shoe stamping on a penguin's face forever. --- with apologies to George Orwell To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Nov 18 12: 0: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.40.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A837315505; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 11:59:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id UAA00640; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 20:59:47 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: Nik Clayton Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: wishlist item: in schematic form In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 18 Nov 1999 08:14:04 GMT." <19991118081404.C93488@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 20:59:46 +0100 Message-ID: <638.942955186@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message <19991118081404.C93488@kilt.nothing-going-on.org>, Nik Clayton write s: >On Tue, Nov 16, 1999 at 03:23:30PM +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: >> Once again I've found myself doodling on my notepad to figure out >> what the heck the stuff in looks like. >> >> It would be really nice if we had some schematics in the handbook >> which showed how these things look, what points where etc etc, >> just some boxes and some arrows. > >Can you scan these doodles in, and send me a GIF file? sorry no scanner. >Also, is the Handbook the best place for this? After reading the comments >in , I would have thought that queue(3) would be more >appropriate? graphics in mandoc ? -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." FreeBSD -- It will take a long time before progress goes too far! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Nov 18 12:33:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp02.wxs.nl (smtp02.wxs.nl [195.121.6.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3D791538C; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 12:33:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.199.80]) by smtp02.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with ESMTP id AAA55EB; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 21:33:30 +0100 Received: (from asmodai@localhost) by daemon.ninth-circle.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA35614; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 21:33:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from asmodai) Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 21:33:15 +0100 From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: Nik Clayton Cc: Alexey Zelkin , doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: tutorials Message-ID: <19991118213315.D35248@daemon.ninth-circle.org> References: <19991115173853.A6833@scorpion.crimea.ua> <19991115201733.B19819@daemon.ninth-circle.org> <19991116080341.A92155@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> <19991116204509.A99933@daemon.ninth-circle.org> <19991117204338.B17330@scorpion.crimea.ua> <19991117203140.C18826@daemon.ninth-circle.org> <19991118081917.D93488@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3i In-Reply-To: <19991118081917.D93488@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> Organisation: Ninth-Circle Enterprises Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -On [19991118 21:25], Nik Clayton (nik@freebsd.org) wrote: >On Wed, Nov 17, 1999 at 08:31:40PM +0100, Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote: >> >> So be my guest. It wouldn't hinder me. I think I am going to import >> >> the 2.x DDWG into my document as 2.x reference. Anyone know how to do a >> >> repo-cpoy? =) >> > >> >Why do you need repo-copy ? You wanna save history of development ? >> >> For myself. That and I want to know how it is done. > >Ah, I see. So if you're new document was going to be > > .../articles/writing-device-drivers/article.sgml > >(for example) then you want the existing tutorials/ddwg/ddwg.sgml copied >in to place first. Yeah. Locally. =) >OK, we could do it. But if you're document is going to be a complete >rewrite then with your first commit you will be deleting all the old lines >and adding in new ones. This isn't particularly useful from a CVS >historian point of view, because the diff will be huge. It will be a rewrite. So many things need to be covered. >Keep in mind that anyone that's in a position to see the history for your >new document should be in a position to see the history for the old document >as well. You might want to include a URL to the CVSWeb interface for the >old document in yours. Sound like a good alternative. >> As I said above. Be my guest. The new DDWG will be 2.x, 3.x and 4.x as >> still a lot of people seem to want to support 2.x and I hope to provide >> migrating tips. > >That's good news. Perhaps we could use this article to prototype the new >mechanism for including OS version specific information in the documentation? Let me know what you came up with to use this. I would be happy to test it, since I am going to do more and more DocBook related things at work. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven/Asmodai asmodai(at)wxs.nl The BSD Programmer's Documentation Project Network/Security Specialist BSD: Technical excellence at its best Who looks under the surface does so at his own risk... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Nov 18 12:39:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp01.wxs.nl (smtp01.wxs.nl [195.121.6.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CA4E154B9; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 12:38:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.199.80]) by smtp01.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with ESMTP id AAA1ED3; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 21:38:28 +0100 Received: (from asmodai@localhost) by daemon.ninth-circle.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA35622; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 21:36:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from asmodai) Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 21:36:06 +0100 From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: Nik Clayton Cc: Poul-Henning Kamp , doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: wishlist item: in schematic form Message-ID: <19991118213606.E35248@daemon.ninth-circle.org> References: <25692.942762210@critter.freebsd.dk> <19991118081404.C93488@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3i In-Reply-To: <19991118081404.C93488@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> Organisation: Ninth-Circle Enterprises Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -On [19991118 21:26], Nik Clayton (nik@freebsd.org) wrote: >On Tue, Nov 16, 1999 at 03:23:30PM +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: >> Once again I've found myself doodling on my notepad to figure out >> what the heck the stuff in looks like. >> >> It would be really nice if we had some schematics in the handbook >> which showed how these things look, what points where etc etc, >> just some boxes and some arrows. > >Can you scan these doodles in, and send me a GIF file? > >Also, is the Handbook the best place for this? After reading the comments >in , I would have thought that queue(3) would be more >appropriate? Nik, I am already working on getting this drawn. What would be the best format to use for it anyways? I myself love to use TGif for schematic drawings, but I don't know what's the best for the DocBook usage. Eivind had the idea that you prefer something like PS for printing and gif/jp[e]g for webpages. Is this with the 3.1 version of DocBook doable? AFAIK not. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven/Asmodai asmodai(at)wxs.nl The BSD Programmer's Documentation Project Network/Security Specialist BSD: Technical excellence at its best Slow down, god can't hear you... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Nov 18 13: 6: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ns2.cetlink.net (ns2.cetlink.net [209.198.2.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33ED6154CB for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 13:05:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kamdip@cetlink.net) Received: from 1hq31 (cts4-rhl-sc3-66.dialup.cetlink.net [209.198.4.66]) by ns2.cetlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA93047 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 16:02:23 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <000801bf3209$1d8c6d60$4204c6d1@1hq31> From: "Dipen Shah" To: Subject: Request for help Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 16:08:50 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01BF31DF.33990E80" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BF31DF.33990E80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I purchased Free BSD 4 cd set in amazon.com acutions. According to = instructions on the cd cover. I created 'Kernal' amd "Mfs Root" = floppies. I put the Kernal floppy in the sustem and started. After that = it asked me second flopy. I put that and and pressed enter. After some = time the bsd menu appeared I create partition and selected express mode = for installation The first C.D soft ware is installed. After restarting = my computer It is asking loging and password. I created new user but it = is not accepting.=20 Main thing I am not comming out of this unix to Windows and Dos. Could = you please help me how to come out of unix to either Windows or Dos. Also I am not getting c prompt. Please send me information about how to = get c:> prompt or how to enter windows mode. Kondeti. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BF31DF.33990E80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I purchased Free BSD 4 cd set in = amazon.com=20 acutions. According to instructions on the cd cover. I created 'Kernal' = amd "Mfs=20 Root" floppies. I put the Kernal floppy in the sustem and started. After = that it=20 asked me second flopy. I put that and and pressed enter. After some time = the bsd=20 menu appeared I create partition and selected express mode for = installation The=20 first C.D soft ware is installed. After restarting my computer It is = asking=20 loging and password. I created new user but it is not accepting. =
 
Main thing I am not comming out of this = unix to=20 Windows and Dos. Could you please help me how to come out of unix to = either=20 Windows or Dos.
 
Also I am not getting c prompt.  = Please send=20 me information about how to get c:> prompt or how to enter windows=20 mode.
 
Kondeti.
------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BF31DF.33990E80-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Nov 18 18: 4:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at (vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at [128.130.111.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9366155F8 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 18:04:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pfeifer@dbai.tuwien.ac.at) Received: from alphard (alphard [128.130.111.37]) by vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id DAA22021; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 03:04:22 +0100 (MET) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 03:04:22 +0100 (MET) From: Gerald Pfeifer To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: Marcel Moolenaar Subject: http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/linuxemu.html Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ...still has information on "23.1.3. Installing Linux Mode in 2.1-STABLE". This information is quite old and hardly useful any more; also the Linux emulation back than was nowhere near the current state. May I suggest that you remove this and perhaps even "23.1.2. Installing Linux Mode in 2.2.2-RELEASE and later 2.2.x versions." as well? I added Marcel Moolenaar , who is currently maintaing most of the Linux Mode in the Cc, but I checked with him before and he agrees with streamlining that documentation by removing old stuff. Gerald -- Gerald "Jerry" pfeifer@dbai.tuwien.ac.at http://www.dbai.tuwien.ac.at/~pfeifer/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Nov 18 19:29:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A23914C8A; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 19:29:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkoshy@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from jkoshy@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id TAA53990; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 19:29:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkoshy@FreeBSD.org) Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 19:29:19 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <199911190329.TAA53990@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Nik Clayton Cc: Poul-Henning Kamp , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: wishlist item: in schematic form In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 18 Nov 1999 08:14:04 IST." <19991118081404.C93488@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org phk> It would be really nice if we had some schematics in the handbook phk> which showed how these things look, what points where etc etc, phk> just some boxes and some arrows. Yes, diagrams would be nice. You can draw reasonably complex diagrams using pic(1) which is a standard part of FreeBSD these days. LaTeX also now supports some powerful graphics handling macro packages. nik> Can you scan these doodles in, and send me a GIF file? IMHO, a more device independent format (Encapsulated Postscript? LaTeX? FIG?) would be a better idea. GIFs are mostly ok on the screen, but they don't generally render well on the printed page. We can convert from these device independent formats to GIF (PNG) or PDF depending on whether we are creating browsable or printable documentation. Regards, Koshy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Nov 19 0:56: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-10.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 779EA15171 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 00:55:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marcel@scc.nl) Received: from [212.238.132.94] (helo=scones.sup.scc.nl) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 11ojpk-0002l3-00; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 08:55:56 +0000 Received: from scc.nl (scones.sup.scc.nl [192.168.2.4]) by scones.sup.scc.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA19737; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 09:55:38 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marcel@scc.nl) Message-ID: <3835108A.576AA21C@scc.nl> Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 09:55:38 +0100 From: Marcel Moolenaar Organization: SCC vof X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.5 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gerald Pfeifer Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/linuxemu.html References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Gerald Pfeifer wrote: > > ...still has information on "23.1.3. Installing Linux Mode in 2.1-STABLE". > > I added Marcel Moolenaar , who is currently maintaing most > of the Linux Mode in the Cc, but I checked with him before and he agrees > with streamlining that documentation by removing old stuff. That's not what I said. I said that the docs are in a state that updating is needed. This does not mean I agree with removing old stuff :-) -- Marcel Moolenaar mailto:marcel@scc.nl SCC Internetworking & Databases http://www.scc.nl/ The FreeBSD project mailto:marcel@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Nov 19 2:22:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at (vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at [128.130.111.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E649914EEF for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 02:22:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pfeifer@dbai.tuwien.ac.at) Received: from markab (markab [128.130.111.33]) by vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA26840; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 11:22:33 +0100 (MET) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 11:22:31 +0100 (MET) From: Gerald Pfeifer To: Marcel Moolenaar Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/linuxemu.html In-Reply-To: <3835108A.576AA21C@scc.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: > That's not what I said. I said that the docs are in a state that > updating is needed. This does not mean I agree with removing old stuff > :-) Oops, I am sorry. This was a misunderstanding on my side, not intentional! Gerald -- Gerald "Jerry" pfeifer@dbai.tuwien.ac.at http://www.dbai.tuwien.ac.at/~pfeifer/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Nov 19 4: 8:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 995B014D2F for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 04:08:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA85211; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 07:08:50 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Message-Id: <199911191208.HAA85211@blackhelicopters.org> Subject: Re: Request for help In-Reply-To: <000801bf3209$1d8c6d60$4204c6d1@1hq31> from Dipen Shah at "Nov 18, 1999 4: 8:50 pm" To: kamdip@cetlink.net (Dipen Shah) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 07:08:50 -0500 (EST) Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG From: mwlucas@gltg.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, You really need to ask this over on freebsd-questions@freebsd.org. This list is for documentation producers. ==ml > I purchased Free BSD 4 cd set in amazon.com acutions. According to instructions on the cd cover. I created 'Kernal' amd "Mfs Root" floppies. I put the Kernal floppy in the sustem and started. After that it asked me second flopy. I put that and and pressed enter. After some time the bsd menu appeared I create partition and selected express mode for installation The first C.D soft ware is installed. After restarting my computer It is asking loging and password. I created new user but it is not accepting. > > Main thing I am not comming out of this unix to Windows and Dos. Could you please help me how to come out of unix to either Windows or Dos. > > Also I am not getting c prompt. Please send me information about how to get c:> prompt or how to enter windows mode. > > Kondeti. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Nov 19 9: 4:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from amukta.gci.net (amukta.gci.net [208.138.130.216]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D78314F17 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 09:04:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rmitchell@avianc.com) Received: from defiant ([24.237.6.199]) by amukta.gci.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.05) with SMTP id FLGFDK02.Q0Q for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 08:03:20 -0900 Reply-To: From: "Russell Mitchell" To: Subject: Dual Processors Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 08:02:54 -0900 Message-ID: <000001bf32af$ec9d9880$4c13a8c0@defiant.avianc.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal Disposition-Notification-To: "Russell Mitchell" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am running dual 500 Celerons will FreeBSD support dual processors? Thank you, Russell Mitchell To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Nov 19 11:45: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BC5B15166; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 11:44:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA85752; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 19:39:46 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 19:39:46 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai Cc: Nik Clayton , Poul-Henning Kamp , doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: wishlist item: in schematic form Message-ID: <19991119193946.A85059@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <25692.942762210@critter.freebsd.dk> <19991118081404.C93488@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> <19991118213606.E35248@daemon.ninth-circle.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19991118213606.E35248@daemon.ninth-circle.org>; from Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai on Thu, Nov 18, 1999 at 09:36:06PM +0100 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Nov 18, 1999 at 09:36:06PM +0100, Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote: > >Also, is the Handbook the best place for this? After reading the comments > >in , I would have thought that queue(3) would be more > >appropriate? > > Nik, > > I am already working on getting this drawn. What would be the best > format to use for it anyways? I myself love to use TGif for schematic > drawings, but I don't know what's the best for the DocBook usage. > > Eivind had the idea that you prefer something like PS for printing and > gif/jp[e]g for webpages. Is this with the 3.1 version of DocBook > doable? AFAIK not. To be honest, I was just thinking we could get away with ASCII art. I definitely think this should be part of queue(3), which rather limits the formatting choices. This is why I thought Poul could send me a GIF, which I can then turn in to an ASCII diagram (it's been ages since I did any, I used to be a dab hand at it in my BBS days). That's not to say that we couldn't have an article about using the queue(3) macros, written in DocBook, with pretty pictures, but I'd like to get the core programmer's documentation sorted first. To answer your question -- I haven't yet tested embedding[1] pictures in our documentation so that it appears in the formatted output. GIF files or similar for the web output will certainly work, and I strongly suspect (but, as I say, haven't tested) that EPS will be the necessary format for PS and PDF. We'll probably need BMP for RTF output too. Testing this is high on my list of priorities. On the 1st of December my current contract ends, at which point I get to do all this 9 to 5, instead of 7.30 to 11, which will make a big difference. N -- If you want to imagine the future, imagine a tennis shoe stamping on a penguin's face forever. --- with apologies to George Orwell To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Nov 19 19:41:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mta2.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta2.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 750AF14F60 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 19:41:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris@holly.dyndns.org) Received: from holly.dyndns.org ([216.62.157.60]) by mta2.rcsntx.swbell.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.09.16.21.57.p8) with ESMTP id <0FLH0039A8WLED@mta2.rcsntx.swbell.net> for doc@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 21:41:09 -0600 (CST) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA21338 for doc@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 21:42:17 -0600 (CST envelope-from chris) X-URL: http://www.FreeBSD.org/~chris/ Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 21:42:16 -0600 From: Chris Costello Subject: Introducing the FAQ into CVS (when I'm done writing it) To: doc@FreeBSD.org Reply-To: chris@calldei.com Message-id: <19991119214216.Y7229@holly.calldei.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.4i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT (i386) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org As Nik suggested, I should import it in a sort of piece by piece manner (sort of). Now what I plan on doing is, once I am completely finished with the new FAQ: - Create the structure in the repo as 'newfaq' (suggestions for a name welcome). - Create the blank files with the SGML structure. - Begin copying in groups of paragraphs from the original FAQ and committing them with clearly marked messages. - Commit my own new writing. I'm still open to discussion on my directory structure. -- |Chris Costello |Any program that runs right is obsolete. `---------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Nov 19 19:47:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D6AB14DD5 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 19:47:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris@holly.dyndns.org) Received: from holly.dyndns.org ([216.62.157.60]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.09.16.21.57.p8) with ESMTP id <0FLH004K097A2R@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for doc@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 21:47:40 -0600 (CST) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA21370 for doc@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 21:48:41 -0600 (CST envelope-from chris) X-URL: http://www.FreeBSD.org/~chris/ Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 21:48:41 -0600 From: Chris Costello Subject: Re: Introducing the FAQ into CVS (when I'm done writing it) In-reply-to: <19991119214216.Y7229@holly.calldei.com> To: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chris@calldei.com Message-id: <19991119214841.Z7229@holly.calldei.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.4i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT (i386) References: <19991119214216.Y7229@holly.calldei.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Nov 19, 1999, Chris Costello wrote: > - Create the structure in the repo as 'newfaq' (suggestions > for a name welcome). By means of cvs add, of course. (I figured I should note this to clear up confusion.) -- |Chris Costello |How an engineer writes a program: Start by debugging an empty file... `--------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Nov 20 0:46:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from sonet.crimea.ua (OTC-sl3-FLY.CRIS.NET [212.110.136.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E95A314D10 for ; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 00:46:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sonet.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id KAA14996; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 10:49:28 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by scorpion.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.5+ssl+keepalive) id LAA26502; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 11:11:30 +0300 (MSK) Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 11:11:30 +0300 From: Alexey Zelkin To: Chris Costello Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Introducing the FAQ into CVS (when I'm done writing it) Message-ID: <19991120111129.A11238@scorpion.crimea.ua> References: <19991119214216.Y7229@holly.calldei.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.7i In-Reply-To: <19991119214216.Y7229@holly.calldei.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.7-RELEASE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi, On Fri, Nov 19, 1999 at 09:42:16PM -0600, Chris Costello wrote: > Now what I plan on doing is, once I am completely finished > with the new FAQ: Anyway I wanna propose to discuss as much as possible changes before comiting. First off, don't bloat repo space. Second reason make it easer for you (you need to track all commits to FAQ during `newfaq' constructing process). -- /* Alexey Zelkin && phantom@cris.net */ /* Tavric National University && phantom@crimea.edu */ /* http://www.ccssu.crimea.ua/~phantom && phantom@FreeBSD.org */ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Nov 20 1:54: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp02.wxs.nl (smtp02.wxs.nl [195.121.6.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6795A14D4D; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 01:53:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.197.243]) by smtp02.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with ESMTP id AAF4ABC; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 10:53:30 +0100 Received: (from asmodai@localhost) by daemon.ninth-circle.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA41164; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 10:38:26 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from asmodai) Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 10:38:26 +0100 From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: Nik Clayton Cc: Poul-Henning Kamp , doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: wishlist item: in schematic form Message-ID: <19991120103826.A41154@daemon.ninth-circle.org> References: <25692.942762210@critter.freebsd.dk> <19991118081404.C93488@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> <19991118213606.E35248@daemon.ninth-circle.org> <19991119193946.A85059@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3i In-Reply-To: <19991119193946.A85059@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Organisation: Ninth-Circle Enterprises Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -On [19991120 00:00], Nik Clayton (nik@freebsd.org) wrote: >On Thu, Nov 18, 1999 at 09:36:06PM +0100, Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote: >> >Also, is the Handbook the best place for this? After reading the comments >> >in , I would have thought that queue(3) would be more >> >appropriate? >> >> I am already working on getting this drawn. What would be the best >> format to use for it anyways? I myself love to use TGif for schematic >> drawings, but I don't know what's the best for the DocBook usage. >> >> Eivind had the idea that you prefer something like PS for printing and >> gif/jp[e]g for webpages. Is this with the 3.1 version of DocBook >> doable? AFAIK not. > >To be honest, I was just thinking we could get away with ASCII art. Mayhaps. But ASCII is limiting in certain aspects as you know. >I definitely think this should be part of queue(3), which rather limits >the formatting choices. This is why I thought Poul could send me a GIF, >which I can then turn in to an ASCII diagram (it's been ages since I >did any, I used to be a dab hand at it in my BBS days). Heh. BBS's taught one to be creative with ANSI-codes/ASCII. >That's not to say that we couldn't have an article about using the queue(3) >macros, written in DocBook, with pretty pictures, but I'd like to get >the core programmer's documentation sorted first. Sound idea. And also one of the goals I am working on as well, as you know by know. ;) That aalib, could one go from gif to ASCII with it? Can't remember for sure what it's exact function was. Time for some more research. =) >To answer your question -- I haven't yet tested embedding[1] pictures in our >documentation so that it appears in the formatted output. GIF files or >similar for the web output will certainly work, and I strongly suspect >(but, as I say, haven't tested) that EPS will be the necessary format >for PS and PDF. We'll probably need BMP for RTF output too. *nod* But the thing is, can we specify multiple formats for one and the same image which the conversion proces automatically picks when going from DocBook to, say, RTF, PDF or HTML? >Testing this is high on my list of priorities. On the 1st of December my >current contract ends, at which point I get to do all this 9 to 5, instead >of 7.30 to 11, which will make a big difference. I am somewhat doing DocBook now from 9 to 5, barring my Cisco and Unix administrating and programming work, to document our local, national and global network and all things associated. But I still have a lot to play with and test. Might be interesting to pass ideas back and forth. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven/Asmodai asmodai(at)wxs.nl The BSD Programmer's Documentation Project Network/Security Specialist BSD: Technical excellence at its best Quoth the raven, "Nevermore!" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Nov 20 3:50:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3402814BE4 for ; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 03:50:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id DAA48173; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 03:50:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail.yk.rim.or.jp (mail.yk.rim.or.jp [202.247.130.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F08914BCE for ; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 03:49:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from k-horik@yk.rim.or.jp) Received: from localhost (ppp955.yk.rim.or.jp [202.247.185.206]) by mail.yk.rim.or.jp (8.8.8/3.6W-RIMNET-98-06-09) with ESMTP id UAA10384 for ; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 20:49:11 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <19991120204829S.k-horik@yk.rim.or.jp> Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 20:48:29 +0900 From: horikawa@jp.FreeBSD.org Reply-To: horikawa@jp.FreeBSD.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/15004: isdnd.rc.5 typos (changing -> charging, and etc.) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 15004 >Category: docs >Synopsis: isdnd.rc.5 typo (changing -> charging, and etc.) >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat Nov 20 03:50:01 PST 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Kazuo Horikawa >Release: FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE i386 >Organization: jpman project >Environment: .\" $FreeBSD: src/usr.sbin/i4b/isdnd/isdnd.rc.5,v 1.1.2.3 1999/11/15 22:40:56 joe Exp $ (included in manpages.?? of 3.3-19991119-STABLE) Revision 1.7 (HEAD) has same typos. >Description: See diff in Fix: Following is a description of the diff: (1) In first part of diff: "changing" should be "changing". (2) In second part of diff: A space character at the beginning of line cause line break. The space character at the beginning of line should be removed. (3) In third part of diff: Move a period at the beginning of a line to the end of the previous line. >How-To-Repeat: $ man 5 isdnd.rc >Fix: --- isdnd.rc.5.orig Sat Nov 20 20:23:30 1999 +++ isdnd.rc.5 Sat Nov 20 20:42:28 1999 @@ -369,7 +369,7 @@ .Pp .Bl -tag -width calledback -compact -offset .It Ar fix-unit-size -idle algorithm which assumes fixed sized changing units during the whole call. +idle algorithm which assumes fixed sized charging units during the whole call. .It Ar var-unit-size idle algorithm which assumes that the charging is time based after the first units time has expired. @@ -628,9 +628,9 @@ .It Li shorthold mode for fixed unit charging For shorthold mode, the .Em idle-algorithm-outgoing - must be +must be .Em fix-unit-size - and the selected +and the selected .Em unitlength and .Em idletime-outgoing @@ -682,8 +682,8 @@ Each call is divided into two periods, the first is the .Em unchecked period and the second is the -.Em checked -. The +.Em checked . +The .Em checked period starts 1 second before the first units time expires. .Pp >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Nov 20 4:26:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from web208.mail.yahoo.com (web208.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.68.108]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AD11514D02 for ; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 04:26:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from srinivas_an@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <19991120122651.18916.rocketmail@web208.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [203.197.149.169] by web208.mail.yahoo.com; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 04:26:51 PST Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 04:26:51 -0800 (PST) From: srini vasan Subject: unsubscribe FreeBsd-doc To: FreeBsd-doc@FreeBsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org unsubscribe FreeBsd-doc __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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<P>Through research and development, GLOVCO has developed a unique
deproteinisation process which produces a technologically advanced product with reduced protein and powder contents.</P>
</FONT><FONT FACE=3D"Garamond" SIZE=3D4><P>GLOVCO<br></F= ONT><FONT FACE=3D"Garamond">
</FONT><FONT FACE=3D"Garamond" SIZE=3D4>50 </FONT><FONT FAC= E=3D"Symbol" SIZE=3D+2>m</
FONT><FONT FACE=3D"Garamond" SIZE=3D4>g </FONT><FONT FACE=3D"G= aramond" Size=3D4>Protein
powdered gloves afford:</P>
 

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<LI>a label claim of 50 </FONT><FONT FACE=3D"Symbol" Size=3D+2= >m</FONT><FONT
FACE=3D"Garamond" SIZE=3D4>g or less of total water extractable protein= per gram
glove (510K registration number available on request). </LI>
<LI>Powder content of less than 50 mg/glove. </LI>
<LI>Lower Allergenicity (Test results available on request) </LI>=
<LI>Cost effective alternative to other gloves.</font></LI><= ;/UL><br>
<IMG SRC=3D"http://glovcoweb.tripod.com/reactioncurvelg.gif" ALT=3DL= atex-Allergy Reaction Graph><br><br>
<p><FONT
FACE=3D"Garamond" SIZE=3D3>
The high red curve shows the percentage of gloved workers that react to latex as the
glove-protein-level decreases. The low skin-toned line is the range of protein levels that an independent
medical laboratory found in GLOVCO low-protein gloves.</p>

<p>The maximum protein level in GLOVCO's low-protein gloves was less than 50
millionths gram/gram of glove.  The mean protein level was near
30 millionths gram/gram of glove.  And the lowest protein level was less than 20
millionths gram/gram of glove. The level of protein in a low-protein glove is
so low that it is nearly undetectable using advanced tests.

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<A HREF=3D"http://glovcoweb.tripod.com/Letters/ltrnb_Copy_2-2.html" target=3D"_parent"><center></font></font><font face=3Dhelvetica= ><h3>Request Sample Gloves and Prices<br><blink>Click
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<Address><Font Face=3D"Garamond" Size=3D3>Contact Person: Angie N= g<br>
Glovco (M) Sdn Bhd<br>
Lot 760, Jalan Haji Sirat, Off Jalan Meru,<br>
42100 Klang, Selangor Darul Ehsan, Malaysia<br>
Phone: 603-3913888 <br>
FAX: 603-3916070<br>
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Contact Person: Michelle Zhu or Emma Die<br>
Yen Enterprise, Inc.<br>
501 S. Santa Fe<br>
Santa Ana, CA 92705<br>
Phone: 714-285-2891<br>
Fax: 714-285-2889<br>
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  ------=_NextPart_000_001__19160353_86389.83-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Nov 20 9:20:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mta2.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta2.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3125A14D8C for ; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 09:20:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris@holly.dyndns.org) Received: from holly.dyndns.org ([216.62.157.60]) by mta2.rcsntx.swbell.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.09.16.21.57.p8) with ESMTP id <0FLI0021RAUIBC@mta2.rcsntx.swbell.net> for doc@FreeBSD.ORG; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 11:20:42 -0600 (CST) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA24917; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 11:21:42 -0600 (CST envelope-from chris) X-URL: http://www.FreeBSD.org/~chris/ Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 11:21:42 -0600 From: Chris Costello Subject: Re: Introducing the FAQ into CVS (when I'm done writing it) In-reply-to: <19991120111129.A11238@scorpion.crimea.ua> To: Alexey Zelkin Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chris@calldei.com Message-id: <19991120112142.A7229@holly.calldei.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.4i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT (i386) References: <19991119214216.Y7229@holly.calldei.com> <19991120111129.A11238@scorpion.crimea.ua> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Nov 20, 1999, Alexey Zelkin wrote: > Anyway I wanna propose to discuss as much as possible changes before > comiting. First off, don't bloat repo space. Second reason make it easer > for you (you need to track all commits to FAQ during `newfaq' constructing > process). Indeed. And I am following all the commits to the FAQ tree. If anything is committed that affects the paragraphs I've copied, I incorporate that change into my new FAQ. I don't know how else to do it without knocking out the old FAQ. Didn't the handbook change keep the old handbook for a while? -- |Chris Costello |As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error. - Weisert `----------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Nov 20 22:55:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from inviteinternet.com (default.com [209.239.40.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0391A14C80 for ; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 22:55:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from todd@lugaru.com) Received: from desktop (adsl-151-201-20-102.bellatlantic.net [151.201.20.102]) by inviteinternet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id BAA02583 for ; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 01:55:36 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991121015405.00885100@lugaru.com> X-Sender: todd@lugaru.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 01:54:05 -0500 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG From: Todd Doucet Subject: documentation problem, imho Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I don't know if you are the folks who maintain or take comments for the /stand/sysinstall utility, but I am assuming you are, or can forward this if necessary. I am trying to get FreeBSD up and running for the first time. I consider myself quite experienced at this kind of thing, but I am having a problem that I think is basically documentation related, and I think likely to be shared by many others. When I originally installed FreeBSD, I selected the "developer" package, not the "x developer", or "kernel developer" package. I did this from within /stand/sysinstall as part of the first run. Since then I've done work on the system, downloaded and installed many ports, etc. Now I discover that I wish I had selected "X Developer" originally when asked. I have been unable to figure out how to accomplish this, despite hours of trying. I've tried these things, among others: !. Started /stand/sysinstall and basically started over, selecting "Novice". This really wants to repartition my hard drive. I don't want to start ALL OVER, I just want to do the equivalent of the "X Developer" selection. 2. From within /stand/sysinstall, I selected the "X Developer" item. When I'm all finished with this item, nothing happens. I'm just returned to the Index. I am at a loss to figure out what I'm supposed to do. I suspect there is a "package" or a "port" that corresponds to the "X Developer" selection during installation, but I have been unable to determine what that is. Or perhaps there isn't such a package or port. But then I still don't know what I'm supposed to do. As it stands now, the installed system does not have basic header files for the X window system. I've read the documentation on the cdrom. I've read your handbook at freebsd.org. I've read the (overly-chatty) book that came with my FreeBSD books called "The Complete FreeBSD." I really don't know what to do. Maybe I'm a big dummy, but I've been doing things like this for a long, long time. I think the problem is with the documentation. That why I'm bothering you with my problem. Todd Doucet To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message