From owner-freebsd-emulation Sun Jul 4 6:58:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from wireless.net (wireless.net [207.137.156.159]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FC7714C36; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 06:58:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bad@uhf.wireless.net) Received: from uhf.wireless.net (uhf.wireless.net [209.75.70.121]) by wireless.net (8.8.7/8.8.4) with ESMTP id HAA15786; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 07:12:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (bad@localhost) by uhf.wireless.net (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA00801; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 09:59:08 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bad@uhf.wireless.net) Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1999 09:59:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Bernie Doehner To: Randall Hopper Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RealPlayer G2 for Linux (6.0-0.99051701) In-Reply-To: <19990702182620.A9199@ipass.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thanks for letting us know. I just tried installing it on my 3.2-R box, and I keep getting signal 11 core dumps, pretty much at startup. I am using libstdc++.so.2.8 out of ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/distributions/slackware/slakware/a4/elflibs.tgz Perhaps we are using different incantations of libstdc++.so.2.8? Or there are some other variations between my Linux libs and yours that are affecting me. Would you mind checksuming your libstdc++.so.2.8? My md5 checksum is: MD5 (libstdc++.so.2.8) = 4dc8074d9bdb727616185c47d7af7cbe Thanks. Bernie On Fri, 2 Jul 1999, Randall Hopper wrote: > Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 18:26:20 -0400 > From: Randall Hopper > To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, emulation@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: RealPlayer G2 for Linux (6.0-0.99051701) > > http://www.real.com/products/player/linux.html > > FWIW, it works pretty well here on 3.2-RELEASE with Voxware. You'll just > need to grab /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.2.8 from a Linux box somewhere. That's > missing from the 3.2-R linuxlib. > > For example at http://www.sagabegins.com/: > > http://ramhurl.real.com/smildemohurl.ram?file=g2audio/jive/wierd_al/wierdal_starwars.rm > > needs 6.0-G2. > > One oddity though. The frame rate starts out nicely (10-15 fps), but gets > slower and slower as it goes on (down to many seconds per frame). May be > the web server, net latency, socket blocking, or who knows. The audio is > fine though all the way through. No breaks or studders at all. Just the > video has problems. > > BTW, 233MMX and 56K modem here, so horsepower isn't a problem. > > Randall > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Sun Jul 4 8: 3:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from pluto.ipass.net (pluto.ipass.net [198.79.53.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23CC114D22; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 08:03:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ipass.net) Received: from stealth.ipass.net. (ppp-6-243.dialup.rdu.ipass.net [209.170.134.243]) by pluto.ipass.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA01851; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 11:03:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.ipass.net. (8.9.3/8.8.8) id LAA15489; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 11:05:48 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rhh) Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1999 11:05:48 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Bernie Doehner Cc: Marcel Moolenaar , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RealPlayer G2 for Linux (6.0-0.99051701) Message-ID: <19990704110548.A15133@ipass.net> References: <19990702182620.A9199@ipass.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Bernie Doehner on Sun, Jul 04, 1999 at 09:59:07AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Bernie Doehner: |Randall Hopper: |> http://www.real.com/products/player/linux.html |> |> FWIW, it works pretty well here on 3.2-RELEASE with Voxware. You'll just |> need to grab /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.2.8 from a Linux box somewhere. That's |> missing from the 3.2-R linuxlib. | |I just tried installing it on my 3.2-R box, and I keep getting signal 11 |core dumps, pretty much at startup. | |I am using libstdc++.so.2.8 out of |ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/distributions/slackware/slakware/a4/elflibs.tgz | |Perhaps we are using different incantations of libstdc++.so.2.8? Or there |are some other variations between my Linux libs and yours that are |affecting me. (Ccing marcel@scc.nl since this is linux_lib-related. BTW, welcome on-board Marcel!) Could be. I pulled the Redhat rpm from real.com, so I yanked libstdc++.so.2.8 off a Redhat 5.2 box. |Would you mind checksuming your libstdc++.so.2.8? |My md5 checksum is: |MD5 (libstdc++.so.2.8) = 4dc8074d9bdb727616185c47d7af7cbe |Thanks. I was sure they wouldn't be the same -- different Linuxes, separate distribution builds -- but here it is: MD5 (/compat/linux/usr/lib/libstdc++.so.2.8) = 392fa83af30f9535d8311e7e76bffcfc The redhat .so may be lying around on ftp.redhat.com. Or you can just grab it from here: http://www.ipass.net/~dbhopper/aa8vb/TMP/libstdc++.so.2.8.gz Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Sun Jul 4 11:51:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from out.gcn.net.tw (out.gcn.net.tw [203.77.2.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF34A14CD3; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 11:51:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from keith@gcn.net.tw) Received: from phantom (host151.2106233.gcn.net.tw [210.62.33.151]) by out.gcn.net.tw (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA92860; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 18:51:07 GMT Received: (from keith@localhost) by phantom (8.9.3/8.9.1) id CAA00424; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 02:50:55 +0800 (CST) (envelope-from keith) Message-ID: <19990705025055.C332@keith.home> Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 02:50:55 +0800 From: Keith To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RealPlayer G2 for Linux (6.0-0.99051701) Reply-To: jtjang@gcn.net.tw References: <19990702182620.A9199@ipass.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: ; from Bernie Doehner on Sun, Jul 04, 1999 at 09:59:07AM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD phantom 4.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 07/04/99, Bernie Doehner wrote: > I just tried installing it on my 3.2-R box, and I keep getting signal 11 > core dumps, pretty much at startup. It seems that G2 for Linux has to be installed & run with root privilege. -- Make it clear and strong. jtjang@gcn.net.tw To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Sun Jul 4 12: 8:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from gaia.euronet.nl (gaia.euronet.nl [194.134.0.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 411CB14EA2 for ; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 12:08:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-emulation@scc.nl) Received: from scones.sup.scc.nl (i321.ztm.euronet.nl [194.134.67.82]) by gaia.euronet.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA28399 from for ; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 21:08:03 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by scones.sup.scc.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA80614 for emulation@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 20:58:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd-emulation@scc.nl) Received: from GATEWAY by scones.sup.scc.nl with netnews for emulation@FreeBSD.ORG (emulation@FreeBSD.ORG) To: emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sun, 04 Jul 1999 20:58:51 +0200 From: Marcel Moolenaar Message-ID: <377FAEEB.F3CA2EC9@scc.nl> Organization: SCC vof Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <19990702182620.A9199@ipass.net>, <19990704110548.A15133@ipass.net> Subject: Re: RealPlayer G2 for Linux (6.0-0.99051701) Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Randall Hopper wrote: > > Bernie Doehner: > |Randall Hopper: > |> http://www.real.com/products/player/linux.html > |> > |> FWIW, it works pretty well here on 3.2-RELEASE with Voxware. You'll just > |> need to grab /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.2.8 from a Linux box somewhere. That's > |> missing from the 3.2-R linuxlib. > | > |I just tried installing it on my 3.2-R box, and I keep getting signal 11 > |core dumps, pretty much at startup. [libstdc++.so.2.8 discussion snipped] > (Ccing marcel@scc.nl since this is linux_lib-related. BTW, welcome > on-board Marcel!) Thanks! [more libstdc++.so.2.8 discussion snipped] I'm downloading The RH5.2/6.0 version now to see if it works with the linux-base port. In any case, don't forget that it is still alpha quality: I'm not going to panic if the kernel does :-) -- Marcel Moolenaar mailto:marcel@scc.nl SCC Internetworking & Databases http://www.scc.nl/ Amsterdam, The Netherlands tel: +31 20 4200655 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Sun Jul 4 16:33:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from poboxer.pobox.com (unknown [208.149.16.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B22DF15173; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 16:33:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alk@poboxer.pobox.com) Received: (from alk@localhost) by poboxer.pobox.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id SAA01490; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 18:33:06 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from alk) From: Anthony Kimball MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1999 18:33:05 -0500 (CDT) X-Face: \h9Jg:Cuivl4S*UP-)gO.6O=T]]@ncM*tn4zG);)lk#4|lqEx=*talx?.Gk,dMQU2)ptPC17cpBzm(l'M|H8BUF1&]dDCxZ.c~Wy6-j,^V1E(NtX$FpkkdnJixsJHE95JlhO 5\M3jh'YiO7KPCn0~W`Ro44_TB@&JuuqRqgPL'0/{):7rU-%.*@/>q?1&Ed Reply-To: alk@pobox.com To: marcel@scc.nl Cc: emulation@FreeBSD.ORG, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RealPlayer G2 for Linux (6.0-0.99051701) References: <19990702182620.A9199@ipass.net> <19990704110548.A15133@ipass.net> <377FAEEB.F3CA2EC9@scc.nl> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14207.61091.350155.525043@avalon.east> Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org My experience using 4.0-current, device pcm0 at isa? port? irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x13 and a full install of RedHat 5.2 as /compat/linux is that playback fails with a dialog: Some components are not available to provide playback... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Sun Jul 4 17:34:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from wireless.net (wireless.net [207.137.156.159]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B0E5151DE; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 17:34:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bad@uhf.wireless.net) Received: from uhf.wireless.net (uhf.wireless.net [209.75.70.121]) by wireless.net (8.8.7/8.8.4) with ESMTP id RAA17182; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 17:48:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (bad@localhost) by uhf.wireless.net (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA00450; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 20:35:24 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bad@uhf.wireless.net) Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1999 20:35:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Bernie Doehner To: Anthony Kimball Cc: marcel@scc.nl, emulation@FreeBSD.ORG, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RealPlayer G2 for Linux (6.0-0.99051701) In-Reply-To: <14207.61091.350155.525043@avalon.east> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org OH..... I am using 3.2-R, because this box has to be semi-stable... I don't suppose there is a requirement to be running 4.0-current for G2 to work? Bernie On Sun, 4 Jul 1999, Anthony Kimball wrote: > Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1999 18:33:05 -0500 (CDT) > From: Anthony Kimball > To: marcel@scc.nl > Cc: emulation@FreeBSD.ORG, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: RealPlayer G2 for Linux (6.0-0.99051701) > > > My experience using 4.0-current, > device pcm0 at isa? port? irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x13 > and a full install of RedHat 5.2 as /compat/linux is that > playback fails with a dialog: > Some components are not available to provide playback... > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Sun Jul 4 19: 6:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from pluto.ipass.net (pluto.ipass.net [198.79.53.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66FE114A0B; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 19:06:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ipass.net) Received: from stealth.ipass.net. (ppp-1-53.dialup.rdu.ipass.net [209.170.132.53]) by pluto.ipass.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA29551; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 22:06:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.ipass.net. (8.9.3/8.8.8) id WAA12311; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 22:08:46 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rhh) Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1999 22:08:46 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Bernie Doehner Cc: Anthony Kimball , marcel@scc.nl, emulation@FreeBSD.ORG, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RealPlayer G2 for Linux (6.0-0.99051701) Message-ID: <19990704220846.A12246@ipass.net> References: <14207.61091.350155.525043@avalon.east> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Bernie Doehner on Sun, Jul 04, 1999 at 08:35:22PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Bernie Doehner: |Anthony Kimball: |> |> My experience using 4.0-current, |> device pcm0 at isa? port? irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x13 |> and a full install of RedHat 5.2 as /compat/linux is that |> playback fails with a dialog: |> Some components are not available to provide playback... |OH..... I am using 3.2-R, because this box has to be semi-stable... I |don't suppose there is a requirement to be running 4.0-current for G2 to |work? Hope not. That's what I'm running here, and no error messages thus far :-) Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Sun Jul 4 19:28:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from pluto.ipass.net (pluto.ipass.net [198.79.53.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3E2F1523D; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 19:28:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ipass.net) Received: from stealth.ipass.net. (ppp-1-53.dialup.rdu.ipass.net [209.170.132.53]) by pluto.ipass.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA01219; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 22:28:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.ipass.net. (8.9.3/8.8.8) id WAA12835; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 22:30:21 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rhh) Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1999 22:30:20 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Keith Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RealPlayer G2 for Linux (6.0-0.99051701) Message-ID: <19990704223020.B12246@ipass.net> References: <19990702182620.A9199@ipass.net> <19990705025055.C332@keith.home> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: <19990705025055.C332@keith.home>; from Keith on Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 02:50:55AM +0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Keith: |On 07/04/99, Bernie Doehner wrote: |> I just tried installing it on my 3.2-R box, and I keep getting signal 11 |> core dumps, pretty much at startup. | |It seems that G2 for Linux has to be installed & run with root privilege. It's not setuid here, and it runs fine in a non-root account on 3.2-R. I just: 1) pulled the rpm package from real.com 2) ran rpm2cpio on it 3) extracted it in the /compat/linux tree using "cpio -ivmud" 4) snagged libstdc++.so.2.8 from a Redhat 5.2 box 5) ran /compat/linux/sbin/ldconfig, and 6) created a link from /compat/linux/usr/bin/realplay to /opt/bin/rvplayer_v6_0.linux /opt/bin is in my $PATH, and I run rvplayer through the symlink created in #6. Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Sun Jul 4 19:49:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from pluto.ipass.net (pluto.ipass.net [198.79.53.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6773F14E09; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 19:49:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ipass.net) Received: from stealth.ipass.net. (ppp-1-53.dialup.rdu.ipass.net [209.170.132.53]) by pluto.ipass.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA02937; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 22:49:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.ipass.net. (8.9.3/8.8.8) id WAA13376; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 22:51:34 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rhh) Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1999 22:51:34 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Bernie Doehner Cc: emulation@FreeBSD.ORG, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RealPlayer G2 for Linux (6.0-0.99051701) Message-ID: <19990704225134.A13369@ipass.net> References: <14207.61091.350155.525043@avalon.east> <19990704220846.A12246@ipass.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: <19990704220846.A12246@ipass.net>; from Randall Hopper on Sun, Jul 04, 1999 at 10:08:46PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Randall Hopper: |Bernie Doehner: | |Anthony Kimball: | |> | |> My experience using 4.0-current, | |> device pcm0 at isa? port? irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x13 | |> and a full install of RedHat 5.2 as /compat/linux is that | |> playback fails with a dialog: | |> Some components are not available to provide playback... | |OH..... I am using 3.2-R, because this box has to be semi-stable... I | |don't suppose there is a requirement to be running 4.0-current for G2 to | |work? | |Hope not. That's what I'm running here, and no error messages thus far :-) Also, (relevent to this thread) I'm running Voxware. Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Mon Jul 5 1:37:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from gaia.euronet.nl (gaia.euronet.nl [194.134.0.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C823814CAF; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 01:37:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel@scc.nl) Received: from scones.sup.scc.nl (i239.ztm.euronet.nl [194.134.67.40]) by gaia.euronet.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA18973; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 10:37:21 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from scc.nl (scones.sup.scc.nl [192.168.2.4]) by scones.sup.scc.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA06079; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 10:37:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marcel@scc.nl) Message-ID: <37806EB9.E693B702@scc.nl> Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 10:37:13 +0200 From: Marcel Moolenaar Organization: SCC vof X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: alk@pobox.com Cc: emulation@FreeBSD.ORG, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RealPlayer G2 for Linux (6.0-0.99051701) References: <19990702182620.A9199@ipass.net> <19990704110548.A15133@ipass.net> <377FAEEB.F3CA2EC9@scc.nl> <14207.61091.350155.525043@avalon.east> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Anthony Kimball wrote: > > My experience using 4.0-current, > device pcm0 at isa? port? irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x13 > and a full install of RedHat 5.2 as /compat/linux is that What exactly do you mean with "a full install of RH 5.2"? > playback fails with a dialog: > Some components are not available to provide playback... Is this emulation related, or is this because RP G2 is still alpha? -- Marcel Moolenaar mailto:marcel@scc.nl SCC Internetworking & Databases http://www.scc.nl/ Amsterdam, The Netherlands tel: +31 20 4200655 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Mon Jul 5 5:11:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from pluto.ipass.net (pluto.ipass.net [198.79.53.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 497D514C3D for ; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 05:11:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ipass.net) Received: from stealth.ipass.net. (ppp-1-230.dialup.rdu.ipass.net [209.170.132.230]) by pluto.ipass.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA06112; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 08:11:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.ipass.net. (8.9.3/8.8.8) id IAA01696; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 08:13:18 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rhh) Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 08:13:18 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: "Nickolay N. Dudorov" Cc: emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RealPlayer G2 for Linux (6.0-0.99051701) Message-ID: <19990705081318.A1558@ipass.net> References: <19990702182620.A9199@ipass.net> <199907031058.RAA11491@news.itfs.nsk.su> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: <199907031058.RAA11491@news.itfs.nsk.su>; from Nickolay N. Dudorov on Sat, Jul 03, 1999 at 05:58:59PM +0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Nickolay N. Dudorov: |Randall Hopper: |> http://www.real.com/products/player/linux.html | |> One oddity though. The frame rate starts out nicely (10-15 fps), but gets |> slower and slower | | Do you see this frame rate degradation with 'statistics' |window on ? In my case the frame rate is at 15 fps (server's rate) |without 'statisctics' window and slows down to 3-4 fps with it. No, I don't here on 3.2-RELEASE. | It seems to me that there can be some problems with |FreeBSD's emulation of linux threads. I don't know. The only emulation-related error I get is: LINUX: 'ioctl' fd=11, typ=0x44d(M), num=0x76 not implemented I don't know what this is. Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Mon Jul 5 8: 8:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from gaia.euronet.nl (gaia.euronet.nl [194.134.0.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67B0114CFD for ; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 08:08:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-emulation@scc.nl) Received: from scones.sup.scc.nl (i310.ztm.euronet.nl [194.134.67.71]) by gaia.euronet.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA14800 from for ; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 17:08:08 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by scones.sup.scc.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA17424 for emulation@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 16:49:32 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd-emulation@scc.nl) Received: from GATEWAY by scones.sup.scc.nl with netnews for emulation@FreeBSD.ORG (emulation@FreeBSD.ORG) To: emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 16:49:28 +0200 From: Marcel Moolenaar Message-ID: <3780C5F8.2270E128@scc.nl> Organization: SCC vof Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <19990702182620.A9199@ipass.net>, <19990705081318.A1558@ipass.net> Subject: Re: RealPlayer G2 for Linux (6.0-0.99051701) Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Randall Hopper wrote: > I don't know. The only emulation-related error I get is: > > LINUX: 'ioctl' fd=11, typ=0x44d(M), num=0x76 not implemented > > I don't know what this is. [cc'd to Luigi Rizzo] Browsing through the Linux kernel code: Soundcard.h: * Use ioctl(fd, OSS_GETVERSION, &int) to get the version number of * the currently active driver. soundcard.h:#define OSS_GETVERSION _SIOR ('M', 118, int) So, what to return on FreeBSD systems when I want to implement it: 0 because the version doesn't say anything? 301 because that's what's defined in /usr/include/machine/soundcard.h on FreeBSD? 030600 because that's the lowest version with the new numbering? 030802 because that's the most current version on Linux? My vote is 030600. Comments? -- Marcel Moolenaar mailto:marcel@scc.nl SCC Internetworking & Databases http://www.scc.nl/ Amsterdam, The Netherlands tel: +31 20 4200655 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Mon Jul 5 17: 8:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from adelphi.physics.adelaide.edu.au (adelphi.physics.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.36.247]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3967B15001; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 17:08:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kkennawa@physics.adelaide.edu.au) Received: from bragg (bragg [129.127.36.34]) by adelphi.physics.adelaide.edu.au (8.8.8/8.8.8/UofA-1.5) with SMTP id JAA04805; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 09:38:25 +0930 (CST) Received: from localhost by bragg; (5.65/1.1.8.2/05Aug95-0227PM) id AA27738; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 09:38:24 +0930 Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 09:38:23 +0930 (CST) From: Kris Kennaway X-Sender: kkennawa@bragg To: Soren Schmidt Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , imp@harmony.village.org, blaz@gold.amis.net, marcel@freebsd.org, emulation@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/i386/linux linux_misc.c In-Reply-To: <199907052052.WAA55831@freebsd.dk> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 5 Jul 1999, Soren Schmidt wrote: > What happend to the idea of making it possible to drop a FreeBSD kernel > into a Linux system ?? Once (about a year and a half ago) for kicks I set up a Debian installation in a chroot tree under FreeBSD - I was very impressed at how much of the system actually ran. The things I had problems with were things like mount and friends which (I'm guessing) require syscalls we don't (didnt) implement yet. It might be very interesting to run this under a phk jail and perhaps get some of the extra syscalls implemented - this could make for a kick-arse demonstration :-) Kris ----- "Never criticize anybody until you have walked a mile in their shoes, because by that time you will be a mile away and have their shoes." -- Unknown To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Mon Jul 5 23:38:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from nico.telstra.net (nico.telstra.net [139.130.204.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0644D153BA; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 23:38:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scottd@telstra.net) Received: from pc62 ([203.18.120.99]) by nico.telstra.net (8.8.8/8.6.10) with SMTP id QAA18895; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 16:37:27 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990706163726.0097eb50@nico.telstra.net> X-Sender: scottd@nico.telstra.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 16:37:26 +1000 To: Randall Hopper From: Scott Donovan Subject: Re: RealPlayer G2 for Linux (6.0-0.99051701) Cc: Bernie Doehner , emulation@FreeBSD.ORG, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19990704225134.A13369@ipass.net> References: <19990704220846.A12246@ipass.net> <14207.61091.350155.525043@avalon.east> <19990704220846.A12246@ipass.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Also, (relevent to this thread) I'm running Voxware. > Yep it looks as if voxware is a requirement :-( I get great vid, and no audio.. Arrgg.. kernel recompile here I come.. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Tue Jul 6 2:38:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from gaia.euronet.nl (gaia.euronet.nl [194.134.0.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65485153B1 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 02:38:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-emulation@scc.nl) Received: from scones.sup.scc.nl (i222.ztm.euronet.nl [194.134.67.23]) by gaia.euronet.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA08503 from for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 11:38:08 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by scones.sup.scc.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA60164 for emulation@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 11:33:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd-emulation@scc.nl) Received: from GATEWAY by scones.sup.scc.nl with netnews for emulation@FreeBSD.ORG (emulation@FreeBSD.ORG) To: emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 11:33:30 +0200 From: Marcel Moolenaar Message-ID: <3781CD6A.B221831E@scc.nl> Organization: SCC vof Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: FYI: Linux emulation: what, how, when, why, who, where Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I hereby give you all an outline of what I'm planning to do, why am doing it, how I intend to get away with it, when it's important to get it done and last but not least, where I'm planning to hide after I've done it :-) I've now made 2 changes: A) ELF loader so that dynamicly linked Linux binaries can be used in a chroot'd environment, with /compat/linux as the new root, and B) the uname syscall. It now returns "Linux" as the OS name. These two changes are the basis for: C) importing the new linux_lib replacement, which I inted to call linux-base-5.2 because 1) it not only contains libs 2) it's a subset of a RH base installation and 3) The RH release is 5.2. A is important for C because I intend to use the RPM port, which is a FreeBSD native binary, and I need the --root option which results in a chroot. B is important for C, because it enables me to use the Linux native RPM (which gets installed in the process) to do installations. Let FRPM be the FreeBSD native RPM with the chroot issue, and Let LRPM be the Linux native RPM with the uname issue. After C comes: D) import of the linux_devel replacement, which I intend to call linux-devel-5.2. Don't ask why :-) Having both A and B has the advantage of C being setup so that D can be installed by FRPM and/or LRPM. Using FRPM to install D has the disadvantage that C must include enough to support RPM post-install scripts in a chroot's env. This include /tmp, /dev/null, /var/tmp and so on. This breaks lots of cases where Linux binaries use FreeBSD binaries and passing them filenames (such as printing from a Linux Netscape). Using LRPM to install D has no drawbacks that I can think of right now and is the rpm by choice for the moment. So, why A and FRPM, I hear you say? Simply because FRPM is the one that is in everybodies PATH and just entering something like rpm -i foobar.rpm to add a new package is what I like to accomplish. And since FRPM is a port, I can't just deinstall it and make a link to LRPM somewhere in the PATH. Why not? Because I need FRPM for the deinstall of C and I can't force a user to not use the RPM port. There's another reason, but that's for later. So, up to this point, I have imported the new ports, the next step is E) Update any linux dependent ports so that they work with the new ports. This only involves dependencies for most ports, but it is possible that some ports can be changed to use rpm distfiles and let these get installed by using eith FRPM or LRPM. LRPM by default for now. After E follows F, but it's not determined what F should be. There's a lot that can be done... [end of part 1] -- Marcel Moolenaar mailto:marcel@scc.nl SCC Internetworking & Databases http://www.scc.nl/ Amsterdam, The Netherlands tel: +31 20 4200655 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Tue Jul 6 2:47:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from freebsd.dk (freebsd.dk [212.242.42.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A635A153B4 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 02:47:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sos@freebsd.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by freebsd.dk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA57490; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 11:47:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from sos) From: Soren Schmidt Message-Id: <199907060947.LAA57490@freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: FYI: Linux emulation: what, how, when, why, who, where In-Reply-To: <3781CD6A.B221831E@scc.nl> from Marcel Moolenaar at "Jul 6, 1999 11:33:30 am" To: marcel@scc.nl (Marcel Moolenaar) Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 11:47:12 +0200 (CEST) Cc: emulation@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org It seems Marcel Moolenaar wrote: > Hi, > > I hereby give you all an outline of what I'm planning to do, why am doing > it, how I intend to get away with it, when it's important to get it done > and last but not least, where I'm planning to hide after I've done it :-) Sounds fine with me, I just miss the info on where you would be hiding :) -Søren > > I've now made 2 changes: > A) ELF loader so that dynamicly linked Linux binaries can be used in a > chroot'd environment, with /compat/linux as the new root, and > B) the uname syscall. It now returns "Linux" as the OS name. > > These two changes are the basis for: > C) importing the new linux_lib replacement, which I inted to call > linux-base-5.2 because 1) it not only contains libs 2) it's a > subset of a RH base installation and 3) The RH release is 5.2. > > A is important for C because I intend to use the RPM port, which is a > FreeBSD native binary, and I need the --root option which results in a > chroot. > > B is important for C, because it enables me to use the Linux native > RPM (which gets installed in the process) to do installations. > > Let FRPM be the FreeBSD native RPM with the chroot issue, and > Let LRPM be the Linux native RPM with the uname issue. > > After C comes: > D) import of the linux_devel replacement, which I intend to call > linux-devel-5.2. Don't ask why :-) > > Having both A and B has the advantage of C being setup so that D can > be installed by FRPM and/or LRPM. > > Using FRPM to install D has the disadvantage that C must include > enough to support RPM post-install scripts in a chroot's env. This > include /tmp, /dev/null, /var/tmp and so on. This breaks lots of > cases where Linux binaries use FreeBSD binaries and passing them > filenames (such as printing from a Linux Netscape). > > Using LRPM to install D has no drawbacks that I can think of right > now and is the rpm by choice for the moment. > > So, why A and FRPM, I hear you say? > > Simply because FRPM is the one that is in everybodies PATH and just > entering something like rpm -i foobar.rpm to add a new package is what > I like to accomplish. And since FRPM is a port, I can't just deinstall > it and make a link to LRPM somewhere in the PATH. Why not? Because I > need FRPM for the deinstall of C and I can't force a user to not use > the RPM port. There's another reason, but that's for later. > > So, up to this point, I have imported the new ports, the next step is > E) Update any linux dependent ports so that they work with the new > ports. This only involves dependencies for most ports, but it is > possible that some ports can be changed to use rpm distfiles and > let these get installed by using eith FRPM or LRPM. LRPM by > default for now. > > After E follows F, but it's not determined what F should be. There's a > lot that can be done... > > [end of part 1] > > -- > Marcel Moolenaar mailto:marcel@scc.nl > SCC Internetworking & Databases http://www.scc.nl/ > Amsterdam, The Netherlands tel: +31 20 4200655 > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Tue Jul 6 3:24:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from gaia.euronet.nl (gaia.euronet.nl [194.134.0.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CC3D14BC9 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 03:24:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel@scc.nl) Received: from scones.sup.scc.nl (i101.ztm.euronet.nl [194.134.112.62]) by gaia.euronet.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA06984; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 12:24:15 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from scc.nl (scones.sup.scc.nl [192.168.2.4]) by scones.sup.scc.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA61636; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 12:24:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marcel@scc.nl) Message-ID: <3781D94A.F54FC36B@scc.nl> Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 12:24:11 +0200 From: Marcel Moolenaar Organization: SCC vof X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Soren Schmidt Cc: emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FYI: Linux emulation: what, how, when, why, who, where References: <199907060947.LAA57490@freebsd.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Soren Schmidt wrote: > > It seems Marcel Moolenaar wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I hereby give you all an outline of what I'm planning to do, why am doing > > it, how I intend to get away with it, when it's important to get it done > > and last but not least, where I'm planning to hide after I've done it :-) > > Sounds fine with me, I just miss the info on where you would be hiding :) Ah, good point :-) It will be a drop zone (DZ) in the Netherlands. (That should narrow it down for some people :-) -- Marcel Moolenaar mailto:marcel@scc.nl SCC Internetworking & Databases http://www.scc.nl/ Amsterdam, The Netherlands tel: +31 20 4200655 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Tue Jul 6 5: 2:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from dwarf.hq.scc.nl (node1374.a2000.nl [62.108.19.116]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 247DC1540A for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 05:02:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-emulation@scc.nl) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by dwarf.hq.scc.nl (8.9.3/8.9.2) id OAA36233 for emulation@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 14:01:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd-emulation@scc.nl) Received: from GATEWAY by dwarf.hq.scc.nl with netnews for emulation@FreeBSD.ORG (emulation@FreeBSD.ORG) To: emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 14:01:20 +0200 From: Remco Moolenaar Message-ID: <3781F010.844212C8@scc.nl> Organization: SCC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <199907060947.LAA57490@freebsd.dk>, <3781D94A.F54FC36B@scc.nl> Reply-To: remco@scc.nl Subject: Re: FYI: Linux emulation: what, how, when, why, who, where Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Marcel Moolenaar wrote: > Soren Schmidt wrote: > > Sounds fine with me, I just miss the info on where you would be hiding :) > > Ah, good point :-) > > It will be a drop zone (DZ) in the Netherlands. > (That should narrow it down for some people :-) Yes, then I have to swat of all the annoying callers that their favourite Linux app isn't working. No thanks, brother! Anyway, but what about the discussion we had two weeks ago about file-access/creation under Linux emulation? - File read: look first under /compat/linux, then under / - File write: dependent of the existence of the /compat/linux or / filepath. Remco. -- Remco Moolenaar mailto:remco@scc.nl SCC Internetworking & Databases http://www.scc.nl/ Amsterdam, The Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Tue Jul 6 7:38:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from gaia.euronet.nl (gaia.euronet.nl [194.134.0.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC66414E07 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 07:38:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-emulation@scc.nl) Received: from scones.sup.scc.nl (i151.ztm.euronet.nl [194.134.112.112]) by gaia.euronet.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA05308 from for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 16:38:08 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by scones.sup.scc.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA68710 for emulation@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 16:12:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd-emulation@scc.nl) Received: from GATEWAY by scones.sup.scc.nl with netnews for emulation@FreeBSD.ORG (emulation@FreeBSD.ORG) To: emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 16:12:38 +0200 From: Marcel Moolenaar Message-ID: <37820ED6.5704ED28@scc.nl> Organization: SCC vof Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <199907060947.LAA57490@freebsd.dk>, <3781F010.844212C8@scc.nl> Subject: Re: FYI: Linux emulation: what, how, when, why, who, where Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Remco Moolenaar wrote: > > It will be a drop zone (DZ) in the Netherlands. > > (That should narrow it down for some people :-) > > Yes, then I have to swat of all the annoying callers that their favourite > Linux app isn't working. No thanks, brother! nag nag nag :-) > Anyway, but what about the discussion we had two weeks ago about > file-access/creation under Linux emulation? > - File read: look first under /compat/linux, then under / > - File write: dependent of the existence of the /compat/linux or / filepath. That's something for part 2. It should be clearly stated to avoid confusion. It must be rejected only when it doesn't make sense or can't be done or whatever, not because it's misunderstood. -- Marcel Moolenaar mailto:marcel@scc.nl SCC Internetworking & Databases http://www.scc.nl/ Amsterdam, The Netherlands tel: +31 20 4200655 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Tue Jul 6 7:43:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from norn.ca.eu.org (cr965240-b.abtsfd1.bc.wave.home.com [24.113.19.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6524314C83; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 07:43:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cpiazza@norn.ca.eu.org) Received: by norn.ca.eu.org (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 4622774B; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 07:42:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 07:42:37 -0700 From: Chris Piazza To: Scott Donovan Cc: Randall Hopper , Bernie Doehner , emulation@FreeBSD.ORG, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RealPlayer G2 for Linux (6.0-0.99051701) Message-ID: <19990707074237.A311@norn.ca.eu.org> References: <19990704220846.A12246@ipass.net> <14207.61091.350155.525043@avalon.east> <19990704220846.A12246@ipass.net> <19990704225134.A13369@ipass.net> <3.0.5.32.19990706163726.0097eb50@nico.telstra.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.6i In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990706163726.0097eb50@nico.telstra.net>; from Scott Donovan on Tue, Jul 06, 1999 at 04:37:26PM +1000 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Jul 06, 1999 at 04:37:26PM +1000, Scott Donovan wrote: > >Also, (relevent to this thread) I'm running Voxware. > > > > Yep it looks as if voxware is a requirement :-( I get great vid, and no > audio.. Arrgg.. kernel recompile here I come.. Well, no. I'm using pcm0 with an es1370 card and RealPlayer G2 works like a charm. -Chris -- cpiazza@home.net | cpiazza@FreeBSD.org "All this fuss about sleeping together. For physical pleasure I'd sooner go to my dentist any day." -Evelyn Waugh To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Tue Jul 6 9:53:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7913314C4E for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 09:53:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA00427; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 09:48:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199907061648.JAA00427@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Marcel Moolenaar Cc: emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FYI: Linux emulation: what, how, when, why, who, where In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 06 Jul 1999 11:33:30 +0200." <3781CD6A.B221831E@scc.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 09:48:56 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Using LRPM to install D has no drawbacks that I can think of right > now and is the rpm by choice for the moment. I definitely agree with this. > So, why A and FRPM, I hear you say? > > Simply because FRPM is the one that is in everybodies PATH and just > entering something like rpm -i foobar.rpm to add a new package is what > I like to accomplish. If I read this correctly, I don't like it much. Are you saying that the native RPM would install stuff packaged for Linux in the Linux compatibility area? IMHO we should be using the Linux RPM binary to do all installs into the Linux compatibility area. You might want to look at the RedHat installer to see how they bootstrap their installation to the point where RPM actually works for them if that's still an issue. -- \\ The mind's the standard \\ Mike Smith \\ of the man. \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ -- Joseph Merrick \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Tue Jul 6 10:11:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from gaia.euronet.nl (gaia.euronet.nl [194.134.0.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B58EF14ECC for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 10:11:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel@scc.nl) Received: from scones.sup.scc.nl (i444.ztm.euronet.nl [194.134.67.165]) by gaia.euronet.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA21434; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 19:11:24 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from scc.nl (scones.sup.scc.nl [192.168.2.4]) by scones.sup.scc.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA77316; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 19:11:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marcel@scc.nl) Message-ID: <378238BA.D3304B66@scc.nl> Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 19:11:23 +0200 From: Marcel Moolenaar Organization: SCC vof X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Smith Cc: emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FYI: Linux emulation: what, how, when, why, who, where References: <199907061648.JAA00427@dingo.cdrom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Mike Smith wrote: > > > Using LRPM to install D has no drawbacks that I can think of right > > now and is the rpm by choice for the moment. > > I definitely agree with this. > > > So, why A and FRPM, I hear you say? > > > > Simply because FRPM is the one that is in everybodies PATH and just > > entering something like rpm -i foobar.rpm to add a new package is what > > I like to accomplish. > > If I read this correctly, I don't like it much. Are you saying that > the native RPM would install stuff packaged for Linux in the Linux > compatibility area? Not by default. You would need --root --ignoreos and --dbpath to do that. The example is confusing, but it should be as easy as that. I'm think of a link... > IMHO we should be using the Linux RPM binary to do all installs into > the Linux compatibility area. You might want to look at the RedHat > installer to see how they bootstrap their installation to the point > where RPM actually works for them if that's still an issue. The Red Hat installer has rpm functionality build-in. It never calls rpm itself. Bootstrapping the linux-base port is done by using the rpm port. It also never invokes the linux rpm. Other ports can best be installed using the linux rpm. More on this subject later. -- Marcel Moolenaar mailto:marcel@scc.nl SCC Internetworking & Databases http://www.scc.nl/ Amsterdam, The Netherlands tel: +31 20 4200655 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Tue Jul 6 10:38:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from gaia.euronet.nl (gaia.euronet.nl [194.134.0.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8CCF14D33 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 10:38:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-emulation@scc.nl) Received: from scones.sup.scc.nl (i214.ztm.euronet.nl [194.134.67.15]) by gaia.euronet.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA01431 from for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 19:38:10 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by scones.sup.scc.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA77366 for emulation@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 19:17:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd-emulation@scc.nl) Received: from GATEWAY by scones.sup.scc.nl with netnews for emulation@FreeBSD.ORG (emulation@FreeBSD.ORG) To: emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 19:17:25 +0200 From: Marcel Moolenaar Message-ID: <37823A25.E1D96AA8@scc.nl> Organization: SCC vof Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <19990704220846.A12246@ipass.net>, <19990707074237.A311@norn.ca.eu.org> Subject: Re: RealPlayer G2 for Linux (6.0-0.99051701) Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Chris Piazza wrote: > > > > Yep it looks as if voxware is a requirement :-( I get great vid, and no > > audio.. Arrgg.. kernel recompile here I come.. > > Well, no. I'm using pcm0 with an es1370 card and RealPlayer G2 > works like a charm. I'm using pcm and also don't get sound. Video is ok. Can it be related to the audio mixer (volume controle)... uname -a: FreeBSD scones.sup.scc.nl 4.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT #7: Sat Jul 3 10:53:54 CEST 1999 marcel@scones.sup.scc.nl:/usr/src/sys/compile/SCONES i386 /dev/sndstat: FreeBSD Audio Driver (981002) Jul 3 1999 10:53:40 Installed devices: pcm0: at 0x220 irq 5 dma 1:1 dmesg: pcm0 at port 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x15 on isa0 ESS1868 (rev 11) -- Marcel Moolenaar mailto:marcel@scc.nl SCC Internetworking & Databases http://www.scc.nl/ Amsterdam, The Netherlands tel: +31 20 4200655 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Tue Jul 6 10:56:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from poboxer.pobox.com (unknown [208.149.16.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A813114DDD; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 10:56:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alk@poboxer.pobox.com) Received: (from alk@localhost) by poboxer.pobox.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id MAA09956; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 12:56:12 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from alk) From: Anthony Kimball MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 12:56:12 -0500 (CDT) X-Face: \h9Jg:Cuivl4S*UP-)gO.6O=T]]@ncM*tn4zG);)lk#4|lqEx=*talx?.Gk,dMQU2)ptPC17cpBzm(l'M|H8BUF1&]dDCxZ.c~Wy6-j,^V1E(NtX$FpkkdnJixsJHE95JlhO 5\M3jh'YiO7KPCn0~W`Ro44_TB@&JuuqRqgPL'0/{):7rU-%.*@/>q?1&Ed Reply-To: alk@pobox.com To: marcel@scc.nl Cc: emulation@FreeBSD.ORG, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RealPlayer G2 for Linux (6.0-0.99051701) References: <19990704220846.A12246@ipass.net> <19990707074237.A311@norn.ca.eu.org> <37823A25.E1D96AA8@scc.nl> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14210.17053.675502.758528@avalon.east> Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Quoth Marcel Moolenaar on Mon, 5 July: : Anthony Kimball wrote: : > : > My experience using 4.0-current, : > device pcm0 at isa? port? irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x13 : > and a full install of RedHat 5.2 as /compat/linux is that : : What exactly do you mean with "a full install of RH 5.2"? I mean (approximately) that I have a disk partition with RH 5.2 installed on it which I mount as /compat/linux. : > playback fails with a dialog: : > Some components are not available to provide playback... : : Is this emulation related, or is this because RP G2 is still alpha? It seems to be emulation related. I discovered that installing the linux_lib port instead of mounting RH 5.2 resulted in a correctly functioning audio playback -- although I can't play midi files using the pcm driver. (Presumably G2 is trying to use the OSS FM interface.) A different problem with video, however: At 8bpp at least, the colors are all wrong. Does anyone know if there is a way to make the player install its own colormap? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Tue Jul 6 13:28:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from gaia.euronet.nl (gaia.euronet.nl [194.134.0.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F046014BFD for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 13:28:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-emulation@scc.nl) Received: from scones.sup.scc.nl (i222.ztm.euronet.nl [194.134.67.23]) by gaia.euronet.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA11287 from for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 22:28:49 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by scones.sup.scc.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA05188 for emulation@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 22:12:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd-emulation@scc.nl) Received: from GATEWAY by scones.sup.scc.nl with netnews for emulation@FreeBSD.ORG (emulation@FreeBSD.ORG) To: emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 22:12:21 +0200 From: Marcel Moolenaar Message-ID: <37826325.5CF8CA24@scc.nl> Organization: SCC vof Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <19990704220846.A12246@ipass.net>, <14210.17053.675502.758528@avalon.east> Subject: Re: RealPlayer G2 for Linux (6.0-0.99051701) Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Anthony Kimball wrote: > : What exactly do you mean with "a full install of RH 5.2"? > > I mean (approximately) that I have a disk partition with RH 5.2 > installed on it which I mount as /compat/linux. Ah, ok. > It seems to be emulation related. I discovered that installing the > linux_lib port instead of mounting RH 5.2 resulted in a correctly > functioning audio playback -- although I can't play midi files using > the pcm driver. (Presumably G2 is trying to use the OSS FM interface.) I think it can also be related to the fact that you have mounted a fully fletched RH 5.2 partition under /compat/linux. Device files et. al. -- Marcel Moolenaar mailto:marcel@scc.nl SCC Internetworking & Databases http://www.scc.nl/ Amsterdam, The Netherlands tel: +31 20 4200655 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Thu Jul 8 11:30:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from mail1.doit.wisc.edu (mail1.doit.wisc.edu [144.92.9.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 834AB154E1 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 11:30:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gabor@acm.org) Received: from [128.104.49.117] by mail1.doit.wisc.edu id NAA64670 (8.9.1/50); Thu, 8 Jul 1999 13:29:49 -0500 Message-ID: <3784EE82.5F76943D@acm.org> Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 13:31:30 -0500 From: Gabor Kincses X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: emulation@freebsd.org Subject: Shared memory access error Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I'm running Informix 7.30.UC7 with linux_lib-2.6.1 on 3.2-RELEASE. oninit starts and runs fine: -rwsr-sr-- 1 root informix 5210941 Jul 6 14:18 /usr/local/informix/bin/oninit* i.e. it becomes euid 0 and egid 80 (informix). It allocates shared memory segments like: Shared Memory: T ID KEY MODE OWNER GROUP m 524288 1381451777 --rw-rw---- root informix m 524289 1381451778 --rw-rw---- root informix But when I try to run onstat as informix (which attempts to attach to the first segment, with rw-rw---- mode) this is what I get: syscall linux_ipc(0x17,0x52574801,0x0,0x1b0,0x0) errno -13 'Permission denied' I thought onstat might assume some weird euid/egid, but: -rwxr-sr-x 1 informix informix 1421245 Jul 6 14:18 /usr/local/informix/bin/onstat* Is this a bug in informix? I.e. shouldn't onstat attempt to perform an shmget() first with 0x600 and then with 0x060? Ultimately, I would want to run oninit as euid 80 (informix), but I'm currently getting this: Thu Jul 8 12:45:29 1999 12:45:29 Event alarms enabled. ALARMPROG = '/usr/local/informix/etc/log_full.sh' 12:45:29 TIMER VP: Could not redirect I/O in initialization, errno = 13 12:45:29 Assert Failed: TIMER VP: Could not redirect I/O in init 12:45:29 Informix Dynamic Server Version 7.30.UC7 12:45:29 Who: Session(0, @, 0, 0) Thread(0, noname, 0, 0) File: mt.c Line: 10064 12:45:33 See Also: /var/tmp/af.e3b9, shmem.e3b9.0 12:45:34 mt.c, line 10064, thread 0, proc id 4898, TIMER VP: Could not redirect I/O in init. 12:45:34 PANIC: Attempting to bring system down Any thoughts, pointers, RTFM? -- Gabor Kincses (gabor@acm.org) FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Thu Jul 8 13:29: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from gaia.euronet.nl (gaia.euronet.nl [194.134.0.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6022A151B9 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 13:28:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-emulation@scc.nl) Received: from scones.sup.scc.nl (i448.ztm.euronet.nl [194.134.67.169]) by gaia.euronet.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA29762 from for ; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 22:28:54 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by scones.sup.scc.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA65398 for emulation@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 22:05:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd-emulation@scc.nl) Received: from GATEWAY by scones.sup.scc.nl with netnews for emulation@FreeBSD.ORG (emulation@FreeBSD.ORG) To: emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 22:05:17 +0200 From: Marcel Moolenaar Message-ID: <3785047D.56C24E8E@scc.nl> Organization: SCC vof Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: RPM: Change in plans Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I just tested the installation of linux-devel-5.2 by using the Linux native RPM as installed by linux-base-5.2. Due to overlaying of /compat/linux, it is not possible to use the Linux native RPM without messing up your FreeBSD installation. I'm forced to use a FreeBSD native RPM to do the installation of linux-devel-5.2. The Linux native RPM can be used in all cases where the installed files do not already exist outside /compat/linux in the same directory. As a rule of thumb, the FreeBSD native RPM must be used to "initialize" /compat/linux. -- Marcel Moolenaar mailto:marcel@scc.nl SCC Internetworking & Databases http://www.scc.nl/ Amsterdam, The Netherlands tel: +31 20 4200655 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message