From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Jun 27 1:46: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mrelay.jrc.it (mrelay.jrc.it [139.191.1.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6448815033; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 01:46:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nick.hibma@jrc.it) Received: from elect8 (elect8.jrc.it [139.191.71.152]) by mrelay.jrc.it (LMC5692) with SMTP id KAA17831; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 10:45:45 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 10:45:42 +0200 (MET DST) From: Nick Hibma X-Sender: n_hibma@elect8 Reply-To: Nick Hibma To: Vince Gonzalez Cc: FreeBSD CURRENT Mailing list , hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: USB project status In-Reply-To: <19990626171921.A336@moe.internal.nycrc.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org /usr/src/release/texts/HARDWARE.TXT or http://www.etla.net/~n_hibma/usb Nick On Sat, 26 Jun 1999, Vince Gonzalez wrote: > On Sat, Jun 26, 1999 at 04:11:28PM +0200, Nick Hibma wrote: > > > > Project status of the USB project: > > Is a list of currently supported devices available somewhere? > > -- > vince@nycrc.net > > -- ISIS/STA, T.P.270, Joint Research Centre, 21020 Ispra, Italy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Jun 27 10:50:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from lsmls02.we.mediaone.net (lsmls02.we.mediaone.net [24.130.1.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6F63150C6; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 10:50:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gummibear@we.mediaone.net) Received: from gummibear.we.mediaone.net (we-24-130-60-137.we.mediaone.net [24.130.60.137]) by lsmls02.we.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA18846; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 10:50:28 -0700 (PDT) From: gummibear@we.mediaone.net Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990627105330.0079e210@we.mediaone.net> X-Sender: gummibear@we.mediaone.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 10:53:30 -0700 To: questions@freebsd.org, hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Are SIIG SCSI Cards Supported? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello all! I'm looking at getting a low-cost entry level SCSI adapter. I came across SIIG (www.siig.com) products while looking through newspaper ads. SIIG seems to make various I/O adapters ranging from SCSI cards to ATA/66 cards and more. The product that I was interested in is the: AP-40 SCSI Pro PCI - Ultra Wide SCSI Bus Master Adapter. I've seen this card as low as $150 which seems to be a good deal. According to their website their SCSI controllers use two different chipsets, the ADVANSYS and INITIO. I believe that I've read that the Admansys chipset is supported, but I'm not sure about the Initio. Do you know if that chipset is supported? Thanks! Joey ================================================================ Joey Bear Garcia Downey, CA gummibear@mediaone.net ================================================================ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Jun 27 11:41: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from panzer.kdm.org (unknown [216.160.178.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E5F614E9B; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 11:41:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ken@panzer.kdm.org) Received: (from ken@localhost) by panzer.kdm.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id MAA11951; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 12:40:58 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from ken) Message-Id: <199906271840.MAA11951@panzer.kdm.org> Subject: Re: Are SIIG SCSI Cards Supported? In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990627105330.0079e210@we.mediaone.net> from "gummibear@we.mediaone.net" at "Jun 27, 1999 10:53:30 am" To: gummibear@we.mediaone.net Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 12:40:58 -0600 (MDT) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, hardware@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Kenneth D. Merry" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org gummibear@we.mediaone.net wrote... > > Hello all! > > I'm looking at getting a low-cost entry level SCSI adapter. I came across > SIIG (www.siig.com) products while looking through newspaper ads. SIIG > seems to make various I/O adapters ranging from SCSI cards to ATA/66 cards > and more. The product that I was interested in is the: AP-40 SCSI Pro PCI - > Ultra Wide SCSI Bus Master Adapter. I've seen this card as low as $150 > which seems to be a good deal. > > According to their website their SCSI controllers use two different > chipsets, the ADVANSYS and INITIO. I believe that I've read that the > Admansys chipset is supported, but I'm not sure about the Initio. Do you > know if that chipset is supported? The Initio chips are not supported. There is a driver, written by Initio, for the old SCSI layer, but as far as I know, it hasn't been ported to CAM. So, you'll need to find out what chip is on the SIIG board in question. Ken -- Kenneth Merry ken@plutotech.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Jun 27 12:49:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 608) id 7A6E914EFF; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 12:49:53 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" To: gummibear@we.mediaone.net Cc: questions@freebsd.org, hardware@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <3.0.6.32.19990627105330.0079e210@we.mediaone.net> (gummibear@we.mediaone.net) Subject: Re: Are SIIG SCSI Cards Supported? Message-Id: <19990627194953.7A6E914EFF@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 12:49:53 -0700 (PDT) Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > I'm looking at getting a low-cost entry level SCSI adapter. I came across > SIIG (www.siig.com) products while looking through newspaper ads. SIIG > seems to make various I/O adapters ranging from SCSI cards to ATA/66 cards > and more. The product that I was interested in is the: AP-40 SCSI Pro PCI - > Ultra Wide SCSI Bus Master Adapter. I've seen this card as low as $150 > which seems to be a good deal. goto onsale.com and get the adaptec 3920UW (sp?) which is selling for about $150. jmb To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Jun 27 13: 1: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from quark.ChrisBowman.com (crbowman.erols.com [209.122.47.155]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF18C14DAA; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 13:01:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from crb@ChrisBowman.com) Received: from fermion (fermion.ChrisBowman.com [10.0.1.2]) by quark.ChrisBowman.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA16165; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 15:00:34 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from crb@ChrisBowman.com) Message-Id: <199906272000.PAA16165@quark.ChrisBowman.com> X-Sender: crb@quark X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 16:00:42 -0400 To: gummibear@we.mediaone.net From: "Christopher R. Bowman" Subject: Re: Are SIIG SCSI Cards Supported? Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, hardware@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990627105330.0079e210@we.mediaone.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 10:53 AM 6/27/99 -0700, gummibear@we.mediaone.net wrote: > >Hello all! > >I'm looking at getting a low-cost entry level SCSI adapter. I came across >SIIG (www.siig.com) products while looking through newspaper ads. SIIG >seems to make various I/O adapters ranging from SCSI cards to ATA/66 cards >and more. The product that I was interested in is the: AP-40 SCSI Pro PCI - >Ultra Wide SCSI Bus Master Adapter. I've seen this card as low as $150 >which seems to be a good deal. > >According to their website their SCSI controllers use two different >chipsets, the ADVANSYS and INITIO. I believe that I've read that the >Admansys chipset is supported, but I'm not sure about the Initio. Do you >know if that chipset is supported? The Tekram 390 U2W is a Symbios 53c895 based Ultra2-Wide controller that I have seen as low as $160. I have the 390F which is a Symbios 53c876 based Ultra-Wide and should be cheaper, and I have been very happy with it under the many operating systems I have tried. I also picked up a Diamond Fireport 40 Dual which is a dual channel Ultra-Wide based on the Symbios 53c876, it's bios isn't as nice as the Tekram's but it has also been a very nice card. The Adaptec cards are very well supported since the two guys that do most of the scsi work spend the time to make sure the Adpatec cards work right. The Symbios cards on the other hand have complete and easily attained documentation making it easy for others to dig in and fix things. Both of these drivers have been very stable for a long time. If I were you I would either get an Adaptec card or a Symbios based card which are a tiny bit cheaper. -------- Christopher R. Bowman crb@ChrisBowman.com http://www.ChrisBowman.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Jun 27 13:46:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from george.lbl.gov (george.lbl.gov [131.243.2.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A19E14CC8; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 13:46:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jin@george.lbl.gov) Received: (from jin@localhost) by george.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.2) id NAA23478; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 13:46:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 13:46:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199906272046.NAA23478@george.lbl.gov> From: jin@george.lbl.gov To: dburr@pobox.com, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Need help choosing a new SCSI card Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > * IMPORTANT!! Separate SCSI buses for internal and external connector. > My SCSI chain is too long to have both internal and external be on the > same bus. It is not clear what you want to have here. (1) Four buses, two for internal and two for external or (2) Two buses, one for internal and one for external None of above is possible or (3) Two buses, both for internal and external with two external connectors and two internal connectors (4) Two buses, both for internal and external with one external connectors and two internal connectors #(3) is available on RAID controller #(4) is available at Diamond Fireport 40 DUAL. This one actually has one external SCSI-2 connector on channel one, and four internal connectors on both channels. Four internal connectors: Two are SCSI-3 connectors for each channel, and the other twos are SCSI-2 connectors for each channel. > * Narrow Ultra SCSI support (50-pin, 20MB/s). I don't have any Wide or > Ultra2/U2W/etc. devices, nor do I plan on getting any. > * FreeBSD compatibility, of course! But it would be great if the card > works under Linux as well, since I have to do projects in Linux now and > then. > * Reasonable cost. I unfortunately don't have a lot of money to spend. > > Are there any NCR/Symbios cards that fit the bill? I really like this > chipset and it is a heck of a lot cheaper than Adaptec... Diamond Fireport 40 DUAL has NCR/Symbios 876 chip. It works under FreeBSD very well. -Jin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Jun 27 17:15:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from vortex.greycat.com (vortex.greycat.com [207.173.133.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2755D1521A for ; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 17:15:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dann@greycat.com) Received: (qmail 23173 invoked from network); 28 Jun 1999 00:15:19 -0000 Received: from bigphred.greycat.com (HELO greycat.com) (207.173.133.2) by vortex.greycat.com with SMTP; 28 Jun 1999 00:15:19 -0000 Message-ID: <3776BE9B.E0F19030@greycat.com> Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 17:15:24 -0700 From: Dann Lunsford Organization: You're kidding, right? X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org, hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Recommended laptops for FreeBSD? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi! I need some advice (or at least some information :-)) about buying a laptop. What brands/models support FreeBSD best, etc.? For instance, today I saw a ThinkPad 1472 (pretty sure that was the model) with 14" screen, 6.4G drive, DVD/CD, 64Meg, etc; looked real nice, just what I need for the trips I'll be making, if it only runs FreeBSD. Will it? I have an old ThinkPad 750C running FreeBSD now, which is why I'm looking at the 1472, but I'd really like to have peoples' opinions. Thanks in advance. -- Dann Lunsford dann@greycat.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Jun 27 17:28:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mail-out.visi.com (tele.visi.com [209.98.98.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B141150CE; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 17:28:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mestery@visi.com) Received: from isis.visi.com (isis.visi.com [209.98.98.8]) by mail-out.visi.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64F1E1F823; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 19:28:42 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (mestery@localhost) by isis.visi.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA14405; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 19:28:42 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: isis.visi.com: mestery owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 19:28:42 -0500 (CDT) From: To: Dann Lunsford Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Recommended laptops for FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: <3776BE9B.E0F19030@greycat.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 27 Jun 1999, Dann Lunsford wrote: > Hi! I need some advice (or at least some information :-)) about buying > a laptop. What brands/models support FreeBSD best, etc.? > For instance, today I saw a ThinkPad 1472 (pretty sure that was the > model) with 14" screen, 6.4G drive, DVD/CD, 64Meg, etc; looked real > nice, just what I need for the trips I'll be making, if it only runs > FreeBSD. Will it? I have an old ThinkPad 750C running FreeBSD now, > which is why I'm looking at the 1472, but I'd really like to have > peoples' opinions. > Along these lines, does anyone have any experience with the Dell Inspiron 3500? Dell has a real nice deal now (14.1 inch display, 64MB RAM, 4.2GB drive, CD-ROM) for ~$2,000. Has anyone used one of these with FreeBSD before? I know firsthand the Dell's are nice machines, as my father has one. But I don't know if anyone's used the Inspiron's with FreeBSD. -- Kyle Mestery | StorageTek's Storage Networking Group mestery@visi.com | http://www.freebsd.org/ mestery@netwinder.org | http://www.netwinder.org/ Protect your right to privacy: www.freecrypto.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Jun 27 17:36:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from WEBBSD1.turnaround.com.au (webbsd1.turnaround.com.au [203.39.138.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B956B14F06; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 17:36:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ajohns@TurnAround.com.au) Received: from tasajohns (dhcp64.turnaround.com.au [192.168.1.64]) by WEBBSD1.turnaround.com.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA19964; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 10:53:49 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from ajohns@TurnAround.com.au) From: "Andrew Johns" To: , "Dann Lunsford" Cc: , Subject: RE: Recommended laptops for FreeBSD? Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 10:35:49 +1000 Message-ID: <000701bec0fe$2b953ee0$4001a8c0@tasajohns.turnaround.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [snip] > On Sun, 27 Jun 1999, Dann Lunsford wrote: > > > Hi! I need some advice (or at least some information :-)) > about buying > > a laptop. What brands/models support FreeBSD best, etc.? > > For instance, today I saw a ThinkPad 1472 (pretty sure that was the > > model) with 14" screen, 6.4G drive, DVD/CD, 64Meg, etc; looked real > > nice, just what I need for the trips I'll be making, if it only runs > > FreeBSD. Will it? I have an old ThinkPad 750C running FreeBSD now, > > which is why I'm looking at the 1472, but I'd really like to have > > peoples' opinions. > > > Along these lines, does anyone have any experience with the Dell > Inspiron 3500? Dell has a real nice deal now (14.1 inch display, 64MB > RAM, 4.2GB drive, CD-ROM) for ~$2,000. Has anyone used one of these > with FreeBSD before? I know firsthand the Dell's are nice > machines, as > my father has one. But I don't know if anyone's used the Inspiron's > with FreeBSD. None with the 3500, but the 7000's are pretty awesome - only prob we had was getting X running on the ATI Rage Pro LT - it was the LT that wasn't supported last time we looked. Other than that it absolutely flew - eg:sub 2 and a half minutes for a kernel compile (mind you we had 192 MB RAM in that machine :)) but that was before we added softupdates... Cheers AJ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Jun 27 18:14:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CD0414BEB; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 18:14:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id KAA15685; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 10:44:06 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) id KAA17739; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 10:44:04 +0930 (CST) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 10:44:04 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Andrew Johns Cc: mestery@visi.com, Dann Lunsford , questions@FreeBSD.ORG, hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Recommended laptops for FreeBSD? Message-ID: <19990628104403.G15144@freebie.lemis.com> References: <000701bec0fe$2b953ee0$4001a8c0@tasajohns.turnaround.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <000701bec0fe$2b953ee0$4001a8c0@tasajohns.turnaround.com.au>; from Andrew Johns on Mon, Jun 28, 1999 at 10:35:49AM +1000 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [Format recovered--see http://www.lemis.com/email/email-format.html] On Monday, 28 June 1999 at 10:35:49 +1000, Andrew Johns wrote: > [snip] >> On Sun, 27 Jun 1999, Dann Lunsford wrote: >> >>> Hi! I need some advice (or at least some information :-)) about >>> buying a laptop. What brands/models support FreeBSD best, etc.? >>> For instance, today I saw a ThinkPad 1472 (pretty sure that was >>> the model) with 14" screen, 6.4G drive, DVD/CD, 64Meg, etc; looked >>> real nice, just what I need for the trips I'll be making, if it >>> only runs FreeBSD. Will it? I have an old ThinkPad 750C running >>> FreeBSD now, which is why I'm looking at the 1472, but I'd really >>> like to have peoples' opinions. >> >> Along these lines, does anyone have any experience with the Dell >> Inspiron 3500? Dell has a real nice deal now (14.1 inch display, >> 64MB RAM, 4.2GB drive, CD-ROM) for ~$2,000. Has anyone used one of >> these with FreeBSD before? I know firsthand the Dell's are nice >> machines, as my father has one. But I don't know if anyone's used >> the Inspiron's with FreeBSD. > > None with the 3500, but the 7000's are pretty awesome - only prob we had > was getting X running on the ATI Rage Pro LT - it was the LT that wasn't > supported last time we looked. Other than that it absolutely flew - > eg:sub 2 and a half minutes for a kernel compile (mind you we had 192 MB > RAM in that machine :)) but that was before we added softupdates... All current Dell laptops use the NeoMagic chipset, which used to be a problem because NeoMagic didn't release programming documentation. They've done so now, however, and the latest version of XFree86 includes a driver which works pretty well on my Latitude CPi. I'm told that the Inspiron series works pretty well with FreeBSD, too. Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Jun 27 18:30:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from gershwin.tera.com (gershwin.tera.com [207.224.230.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87BAE152E2; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 18:30:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tera.com) Received: from athena.tera.com (athena.tera.com [207.224.230.169]) by gershwin.tera.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA15566; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 18:30:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Gary Kline Received: (from kline@localhost) by athena.tera.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA29932; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 18:30:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199906280130.SAA29932@athena.tera.com> Subject: Re: Recommended laptops for FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: <19990628104403.G15144@freebie.lemis.com> from Greg Lehey at "Jun 28, 99 10:44:04 am" To: grog@lemis.com (Greg Lehey) Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 18:30:03 -0700 (PDT) Cc: ajohns@TurnAround.com.au, mestery@visi.com, dann@greycat.com, questions@FreeBSD.ORG, hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL23 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org According to Greg Lehey: > [Format recovered--see http://www.lemis.com/email/email-format.html] > > On Monday, 28 June 1999 at 10:35:49 +1000, Andrew Johns wrote: > > [snip] > >> On Sun, 27 Jun 1999, Dann Lunsford wrote: > >> > All current Dell laptops use the NeoMagic chipset, which used to be a > problem because NeoMagic didn't release programming documentation. > They've done so now, however, and the latest version of XFree86 > includes a driver which works pretty well on my Latitude CPi. I'm > told that the Inspiron series works pretty well with FreeBSD, too. > A friend who got a free Dell Latitude for work was wondering; this info should interest him. The PAO list is interesting--especially since my 3.2 CD's just arrived--but the PAO information seems dated.. I've seen a `UMAX' l'top that would be just small enough (12.1") to be worth buying at around $1000US. But I've seen nothing about this or other off-brand laptops. Is there any way of telling whether any generic laptops would work with FBSD? thanks, gary To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Jun 27 18:33:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from ontario.mooseriver.com (ontario.mooseriver.com [208.138.31.116]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2AA71524B; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 18:33:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jgrosch@ontario.mooseriver.com) Received: (from jgrosch@localhost) by ontario.mooseriver.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id SAA38398; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 18:33:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jgrosch) Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 18:33:24 -0700 From: Josef Grosch To: mestery@visi.com Cc: Dann Lunsford , questions@FreeBSD.ORG, hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Recommended laptops for FreeBSD? Message-ID: <19990627183324.A38269@ontario.mooseriver.com> Reply-To: jgrosch@MooseRiver.com References: <3776BE9B.E0F19030@greycat.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: ; from mestery@visi.com on Sun, Jun 27, 1999 at 07:28:42PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Jun 27, 1999 at 07:28:42PM -0500, mestery@visi.com wrote: > On Sun, 27 Jun 1999, Dann Lunsford wrote: > > > Hi! I need some advice (or at least some information :-)) about buying > > a laptop. What brands/models support FreeBSD best, etc.? > > For instance, today I saw a ThinkPad 1472 (pretty sure that was the > > model) with 14" screen, 6.4G drive, DVD/CD, 64Meg, etc; looked real > > nice, just what I need for the trips I'll be making, if it only runs > > FreeBSD. Will it? I have an old ThinkPad 750C running FreeBSD now, > > which is why I'm looking at the 1472, but I'd really like to have > > peoples' opinions. > > > Along these lines, does anyone have any experience with the Dell > Inspiron 3500? Dell has a real nice deal now (14.1 inch display, 64MB > RAM, 4.2GB drive, CD-ROM) for ~$2,000. Has anyone used one of these > with FreeBSD before? I know firsthand the Dell's are nice machines, as > my father has one. But I don't know if anyone's used the Inspiron's > with FreeBSD. I have a Dell Latitude CPi D266XT. A Pentium II/Celeron 266. 64 meg of ram and 4.3 gig hard disk. It has 2 PCMCIA slots, a 14.1" display, and two "bays" in the front. The bay on the left is for the battery. The bay on the right can hold a floppy drive, a CD-ROM drive, or an additional battery. With both batteries installed the laptop can run for 7 hours without being plugged in. The laptop comes with both the floppy and CD-ROM drive. The floppy can be run off the parallel port. I had no trouble installing FreeBSD 3.2 on this machine and running X with the neo-magic X server I can get 1024x768 resolution. Damn nice machine. I understand that this model is being discontinued so, if you can find one, you should be able to get one a a pretty good price. Josef -- Josef Grosch | Another day closer to a | FreeBSD 3.2 jgrosch@MooseRiver.com | Micro$oft free world | UNIX for the masses To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Jun 27 18:45:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8D4B14C05; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 18:45:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id LAA15855; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 11:15:26 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) id LAA17901; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 11:15:24 +0930 (CST) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 11:15:24 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Gary Kline Cc: ajohns@TurnAround.com.au, mestery@visi.com, dann@greycat.com, questions@FreeBSD.ORG, hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Recommended laptops for FreeBSD? Message-ID: <19990628111524.K15144@freebie.lemis.com> References: <19990628104403.G15144@freebie.lemis.com> <199906280130.SAA29932@athena.tera.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <199906280130.SAA29932@athena.tera.com>; from Gary Kline on Sun, Jun 27, 1999 at 06:30:03PM -0700 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sunday, 27 June 1999 at 18:30:03 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > According to Greg Lehey: >> [Format recovered--see http://www.lemis.com/email/email-format.html] >> >> On Monday, 28 June 1999 at 10:35:49 +1000, Andrew Johns wrote: >>> [snip] >>>> On Sun, 27 Jun 1999, Dann Lunsford wrote: >>>> >> All current Dell laptops use the NeoMagic chipset, which used to be a >> problem because NeoMagic didn't release programming documentation. >> They've done so now, however, and the latest version of XFree86 >> includes a driver which works pretty well on my Latitude CPi. I'm >> told that the Inspiron series works pretty well with FreeBSD, too. > > A friend who got a free Dell Latitude for work was wondering; > this info should interest him. > > The PAO list is interesting--especially since my 3.2 CD's > just arrived--but the PAO information seems dated.. I've > seen a `UMAX' l'top that would be just small enough (12.1") > to be worth buying at around $1000US. But I've seen > nothing about this or other off-brand laptops. There are efforts under way to incorporate the PAO code into the mainstream. Previously, PAO worked on laptops, but not necessarily on larger machines. I'm running 3.2-RELEASE on my Latitude at the moment. I needed to change /etc/pccard.conf to reflect the cards I put in (a 3Com 3C589C and a no-name modem with a Cirrus Logic chipset). > Is there any way of telling whether any generic laptops would > work with FBSD? There's a web page at http://home.jp.FreeBSD.org/~toshi/PAO/LTS.txt, and another at http://www.cse.ucsc.edu/~dkulp/fbsd/laptop.html. Apart from that, it's " suck it and see", I'm afraid. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Jun 27 18:48:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A201A14C05; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 18:48:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id LAA15883; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 11:18:09 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) id LAA17923; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 11:18:08 +0930 (CST) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 11:18:08 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: jgrosch@MooseRiver.com Cc: mestery@visi.com, Dann Lunsford , questions@FreeBSD.ORG, hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Recommended laptops for FreeBSD? Message-ID: <19990628111808.L15144@freebie.lemis.com> References: <3776BE9B.E0F19030@greycat.com> <19990627183324.A38269@ontario.mooseriver.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990627183324.A38269@ontario.mooseriver.com>; from Josef Grosch on Sun, Jun 27, 1999 at 06:33:24PM -0700 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sunday, 27 June 1999 at 18:33:24 -0700, Josef Grosch wrote: > On Sun, Jun 27, 1999 at 07:28:42PM -0500, mestery@visi.com wrote: >> On Sun, 27 Jun 1999, Dann Lunsford wrote: >> >>> Hi! I need some advice (or at least some information :-)) about buying >>> a laptop. What brands/models support FreeBSD best, etc.? >>> For instance, today I saw a ThinkPad 1472 (pretty sure that was the >>> model) with 14" screen, 6.4G drive, DVD/CD, 64Meg, etc; looked real >>> nice, just what I need for the trips I'll be making, if it only runs >>> FreeBSD. Will it? I have an old ThinkPad 750C running FreeBSD now, >>> which is why I'm looking at the 1472, but I'd really like to have >>> peoples' opinions. >>> >> Along these lines, does anyone have any experience with the Dell >> Inspiron 3500? Dell has a real nice deal now (14.1 inch display, 64MB >> RAM, 4.2GB drive, CD-ROM) for ~$2,000. Has anyone used one of these >> with FreeBSD before? I know firsthand the Dell's are nice machines, as >> my father has one. But I don't know if anyone's used the Inspiron's >> with FreeBSD. > > I have a Dell Latitude CPi D266XT. A Pentium II/Celeron 266. 64 meg of ram > and 4.3 gig hard disk. It has 2 PCMCIA slots, a 14.1" display, and two > "bays" in the front. The bay on the left is for the battery. The bay on the > right can hold a floppy drive, a CD-ROM drive, or an additional battery. > With both batteries installed the laptop can run for 7 hours without being > plugged in. The laptop comes with both the floppy and CD-ROM drive. The > floppy can be run off the parallel port. > > I had no trouble installing FreeBSD 3.2 on this machine and running X with > the neo-magic X server I can get 1024x768 resolution. Damn nice machine. I > understand that this model is being discontinued so, if you can find one, > you should be able to get one a a pretty good price. Your particular model is being discontinued. My Latitude CPi was discontinued to make way for yours (I have a P/II-266 in mine). The replacement will probably also be called Latitude CPi. The Dell web site will give you the current configuration options. One thing to note is that the two batteries are not the same; the bays have different shapes. I have two batteries for my Latitude, but they're both left batteries. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Jun 27 19:11:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from rapier.goldsword.com (rapier.goldsword.com [199.170.202.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 757AB150F3; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 19:11:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jfarmer@goldsword.com) Received: (from jfarmer@localhost) by rapier.goldsword.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA03048; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 22:11:39 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 22:11:39 -0400 (EDT) From: "John T. Farmer" Message-Id: <199906280211.WAA03048@rapier.goldsword.com> To: crb@ChrisBowman.com, gummibear@we.mediaone.net Subject: Re: Are SIIG SCSI Cards Supported? Cc: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, jfarmer@goldsword.com, questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199906272000.PAA16165@quark.ChrisBowman.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sun, 27 Jun 1999 16:00:42 Christopher R. Bowman said: > At 10:53 AM 6/27/99 -0700, gummibear@we.mediaone.net wrote: > >Hello all! > >I'm looking at getting a low-cost entry level SCSI adapter. I came across > >SIIG (www.siig.com) products while looking through newspaper ads. SIIG > >seems to make various I/O adapters ranging from SCSI cards to ATA/66 cards > >and more. The product that I was interested in is the: AP-40 SCSI Pro PCI - > >Ultra Wide SCSI Bus Master Adapter. I've seen this card as low as $150 > >which seems to be a good deal. > > > >According to their website their SCSI controllers use two different > >chipsets, the ADVANSYS and INITIO. I believe that I've read that the > >Admansys chipset is supported, but I'm not sure about the Initio. Do you > >know if that chipset is supported? > > The Tekram 390 U2W is a Symbios 53c895 based Ultra2-Wide controller that I have > seen as low as $160. I have the 390F which is a Symbios 53c876 based > Ultra-Wide and should be cheaper, and I have been very happy with it under the > many operating systems I have tried. I also picked up a Diamond Fireport 40 > Dual which is a dual channel Ultra-Wide based on the Symbios 53c876, it's bios > isn't as nice as the Tekram's but it has also been a very nice card. The > Adaptec cards are very well supported since the two guys that do most of the > scsi work spend the time to make sure the Adpatec cards work right. The > Symbios cards on the other hand have complete and easily attained documentation > making it easy for others to dig in and fix things. Both of these drivers have > been very stable for a long time. If I were you I would either get an Adaptec > card or a Symbios based card which are a tiny bit cheaper. > -------- Look at the Diamond Fireport 40. If you look around (www.pricewatch.com for starters), you can find the "white box" (card, no cables) for around $85 to $90 US. I have one in a web server with seagate wide drives. Under FreeBSD, it's fast & works. It's also cheap. What's not to like? If you want the Adaptec, the 2940uw2 can be found for around $160 to $180. The Tekram can be found in the $70 to $90 range. John ---------------------------------------------------------------------- John T. Farmer Owner & CTO GoldSword Systems jfarmer@goldsword.com 423-691-6498 Knoxville TN Internet Services & Servers, Network Design, Consulting To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Jun 27 19:45:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from luke.cpl.net (luke.cpl.net [209.150.92.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1F2A152CF; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 19:45:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shawn@luke.cpl.net) Received: (from shawn@localhost) by luke.cpl.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA26340; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 19:46:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 19:46:20 -0700 From: Shawn Ramsey To: "John T. Farmer" Cc: crb@ChrisBowman.com, gummibear@we.mediaone.net, hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Are SIIG SCSI Cards Supported? Message-ID: <19990627194620.C21773@cpl.net> References: <199906272000.PAA16165@quark.ChrisBowman.com> <199906280211.WAA03048@rapier.goldsword.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.6i In-Reply-To: <199906280211.WAA03048@rapier.goldsword.com>; from John T. Farmer on Sun, Jun 27, 1999 at 10:11:39PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Look at the Diamond Fireport 40. If you look around (www.pricewatch.com > for starters), you can find the "white box" (card, no cables) for around > $85 to $90 US. I have one in a web server with seagate wide drives. > Under FreeBSD, it's fast & works. It's also cheap. What's not to like? > > If you want the Adaptec, the 2940uw2 can be found for around $160 to $180. > The Tekram can be found in the $70 to $90 range. The Tekram 390F (UW, 40MB card) works great in FreeBSD, I got one from techstore.com for $84, the UW2 card from Tekram is $138, although im not sure how well it works with FreeBSD. Where can you get an Adaptec 2940UW2 for $160? I don't even look at Adaptec anymore because they prices are so high, and last time I looked just a 2940UW went for closer to $300, although the price may be lower now. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Jun 27 20:15:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from picnic.mat.net (picnic.mat.net [206.246.122.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6323F14F8B; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 20:15:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chuckr@picnic.mat.net) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost) by picnic.mat.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA79850; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 23:14:48 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from chuckr@picnic.mat.net) Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 23:14:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey To: Shawn Ramsey Cc: "John T. Farmer" , crb@ChrisBowman.com, gummibear@we.mediaone.net, hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Are SIIG SCSI Cards Supported? In-Reply-To: <19990627194620.C21773@cpl.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 27 Jun 1999, Shawn Ramsey wrote: > > Look at the Diamond Fireport 40. If you look around (www.pricewatch.com > > for starters), you can find the "white box" (card, no cables) for around > > $85 to $90 US. I have one in a web server with seagate wide drives. > > Under FreeBSD, it's fast & works. It's also cheap. What's not to like? > > > > If you want the Adaptec, the 2940uw2 can be found for around $160 to $180. > > The Tekram can be found in the $70 to $90 range. > > The Tekram 390F (UW, 40MB card) works great in FreeBSD, I got one from > techstore.com for $84, the UW2 card from Tekram is $138, although im not > sure how well it works with FreeBSD. Where can you get an Adaptec 2940UW2 > for $160? I don't even look at Adaptec anymore because they prices are so > high, and last time I looked just a 2940UW went for closer to $300, although > the price may be lower now. Those siig people are definitely worth a second look. When the USB drivers get going on FreeBSD, SIIG has USB PCI cards so you can get a USB bus retrofitted into your motherboard. They also have some very nice serial cards. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@picnic.mat.net | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run picnic and jaunt, both FreeBSD-current. (301) 220-2114 | ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Jun 27 20:58:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from inet.chip-web.com (c1003518-a.plstn1.sfba.home.com [24.1.82.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2B05A15137 for ; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 20:58:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ludwigp@bigfoot.com) Received: (qmail 18328 invoked from network); 28 Jun 1999 03:58:33 -0000 Received: from speedy.chip-web.com (HELO speedy) (172.16.1.1) by inet.chip-web.com with SMTP; 28 Jun 1999 03:58:33 -0000 Message-Id: <4.1.19990627205410.00a82780@mail-r> X-Sender: ludwigp@toy.chip-web.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 20:56:55 -0700 To: "Andrew Johns" From: Ludwig Pummer Subject: RE: Recommended laptops for FreeBSD? Cc: , In-Reply-To: <000701bec0fe$2b953ee0$4001a8c0@tasajohns.turnaround.com.au > References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 05:35 PM 6/27/1999 , Andrew Johns wrote: >None with the 3500, but the 7000's are pretty awesome - only prob we had >was getting X running on the ATI Rage Pro LT - it was the LT that wasn't >supported last time we looked. http://www.xfree86.org/3.3.3.1/ati3.html#3 ----- The driver currently supports the SuperVGA capabilities of all ATI adapters except some early Mach8 and Mach32 adapters that do not provide the required functionality. This support works for monochrome, 16-colour and 256-colour video modes, if one of the following ATI graphics controller chips is present: ... Mach64 series: ... 264LT (3D Rage LT), 264LTPro (3D Rage LT Pro) ----- --Ludwig Pummer ( ludwigp@bigfoot.com ) ICQ UIN: 692441 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Jun 27 21:21:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from gershwin.tera.com (gershwin.tera.com [207.224.230.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB9FB1524A; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 21:21:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tera.com) Received: from athena.tera.com (athena.tera.com [207.224.230.169]) by gershwin.tera.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA16942; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 21:21:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Gary Kline Received: (from kline@localhost) by athena.tera.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA00862; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 21:21:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199906280421.VAA00862@athena.tera.com> Subject: Re: Recommended laptops for FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: <19990628111524.K15144@freebie.lemis.com> from Greg Lehey at "Jun 28, 99 11:15:24 am" To: grog@lemis.com (Greg Lehey) Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 21:21:19 -0700 (PDT) Cc: kline@tera.com, ajohns@TurnAround.com.au, mestery@visi.com, dann@greycat.com, questions@FreeBSD.ORG, hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL23 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org According to Greg Lehey: > On Sunday, 27 June 1999 at 18:30:03 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > According to Greg Lehey: > >> [Format recovered--see http://www.lemis.com/email/email-format.html] > >> > >> On Monday, 28 June 1999 at 10:35:49 +1000, Andrew Johns wrote: > >>> [snip] > >>>> On Sun, 27 Jun 1999, Dann Lunsford wrote: > >>>> > >> All current Dell laptops use the NeoMagic chipset, which used to be a > >> problem because NeoMagic didn't release programming documentation. > >> They've done so now, however, and the latest version of XFree86 > >> includes a driver which works pretty well on my Latitude CPi. I'm > >> told that the Inspiron series works pretty well with FreeBSD, too. > > > > A friend who got a free Dell Latitude for work was wondering; > > this info should interest him. > > > > The PAO list is interesting--especially since my 3.2 CD's > > just arrived--but the PAO information seems dated.. I've > > seen a `UMAX' l'top that would be just small enough (12.1") > > to be worth buying at around $1000US. But I've seen > > nothing about this or other off-brand laptops. > > There are efforts under way to incorporate the PAO code into the > mainstream. Previously, PAO worked on laptops, but not necessarily on > larger machines. I'm running 3.2-RELEASE on my Latitude at the > moment. I needed to change /etc/pccard.conf to reflect the cards I > put in (a 3Com 3C589C and a no-name modem with a Cirrus Logic > chipset). > It would be outstanding if FreeBSD ran on a wider variety of Intel//AMD laptops. Or had a CD release exclusively for laptops. I'm targeting sometime within the next quarter or two to buy ... so here's hoping. > > Is there any way of telling whether any generic laptops would > > work with FBSD? > > There's a web page at http://home.jp.FreeBSD.org/~toshi/PAO/LTS.txt, > and another at http://www.cse.ucsc.edu/~dkulp/fbsd/laptop.html. Apart > from that, it's " suck it and see", I'm afraid. > Yeah, I can just imagine the screams if I tried to return a laptop with the Lose98 trashed. .... gary PS: Thanks for the additional website. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Jun 28 1:32:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mrelay.jrc.it (mrelay.jrc.it [139.191.1.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5008614D01; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 01:32:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nick.hibma@jrc.it) Received: from elect8 (elect8.jrc.it [139.191.71.152]) by mrelay.jrc.it (LMC5692) with SMTP id KAA26944; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 10:32:01 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 10:31:58 +0200 (MET DST) From: Nick Hibma X-Sender: n_hibma@elect8 Reply-To: Nick Hibma To: Chuck Robey Cc: Shawn Ramsey , "John T. Farmer" , crb@ChrisBowman.com, gummibear@we.mediaone.net, hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Are SIIG SCSI Cards Supported? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > The Tekram 390F (UW, 40MB card) works great in FreeBSD, I got one from > > techstore.com for $84, the UW2 card from Tekram is $138, although im not > > sure how well it works with FreeBSD. Where can you get an Adaptec 2940UW2 > > for $160? I don't even look at Adaptec anymore because they prices are so > > high, and last time I looked just a 2940UW went for closer to $300, although > > the price may be lower now. > > Those siig people are definitely worth a second look. When the USB > drivers get going on FreeBSD, SIIG has USB PCI cards so you can get a > USB bus retrofitted into your motherboard. They also have some very > nice serial cards. They are worth a second look only if they are willing to be more open towards open source projects. Entrega has complitely killed my appetite for their projects by their lack of interest and instant reply with NDA's. And with respect to the PCI plug in card: It's supported. There are however more sexy cards available from Entrega: 4 ports instead of 2 (builtin hub). Cheers, Nick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Jun 28 2:16:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mailgate.cadence.com (mailgate.Cadence.COM [158.140.2.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43AFB15233; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 02:16:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ngr@symbionics.co.uk) Received: (from smap@localhost) by mailgate.cadence.com (8.8.5/8.6.8) id CAA17726; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 02:16:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from symnt3.Cadence.COM(194.32.101.100) by mailgate.cadence.com via smap (mjr-v1.2) id xma930561375.017707; Mon, 28 Jun 99 02:16:15 -0700 Received: by symnt3.cadence.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 10:15:27 +0100 Message-ID: <1E485299309FD211A2100090271E27A41430AA@symnt3.cadence.com> From: Nigel Roles To: FreeBSD SCSI , FreeBSD Hardware Subject: RE: Need help choosing a new SCSI card Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 10:15:25 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Symbios do an 896 based card called a Symbios 22910. These you may need to buy via LSI Logic, which I agree is not good. This is a 64 bit card, so check that the motherboard you have has proper 32 bit sockets. Mine didn't so I had to 'trim' the end with a soldering iron to get the card in. This card has dual internal and external connectors, all wide, i.e. no 50 way narrow connector. I use a converter on the card to attach a 50 way cable. The converter needss no terminator for the wide portion since it is so close to the chip. If you can get Adaptec for $159 then this is not cheaper! I would have thought that getting 2 Tekram DC390U2Ws would be a better bet since they come with loads of cables and connectors and auto switching terminators, i.e. you can mix LVDS and Ultra on a cable and get the best from both. Intraserver also do an 896 card but I have no experience of it. AMI do a motherboard (MegarumII) with the 896 on board. -----Original Message----- From: Donald Burr [mailto:dburr@pobox.com] Sent: Saturday, June 26, 1999 3:23 AM To: FreeBSD SCSI; FreeBSD Hardware Subject: Need help choosing a new SCSI card It was bound to happen. After getting a new (external) tape drive and hooking it up to my system, I now find that my SCSI chain is too long to work reliably. If I unplug all my external devices (thus leaving only the internal hard drives), everything works fine. So it's time to get me a new SCSI card -- one with multiple buses on the same card. Normally, I would buy a second SCSI card, but unfortunately I am also out of PCI slots. So I need some help from the FreeBSD SCSI community in choosing a new card! Here are my requirements: * IMPORTANT!! Separate SCSI buses for internal and external connector. My SCSI chain is too long to have both internal and external be on the same bus. * Narrow Ultra SCSI support (50-pin, 20MB/s). I don't have any Wide or Ultra2/U2W/etc. devices, nor do I plan on getting any. * FreeBSD compatibility, of course! But it would be great if the card works under Linux as well, since I have to do projects in Linux now and then. * Reasonable cost. I unfortunately don't have a lot of money to spend. Are there any NCR/Symbios cards that fit the bill? I really like this chipset and it is a heck of a lot cheaper than Adaptec... In addition, if someone can point me to a good mail order (or Web order) place where I can get this card, I would be very grateful. Thanks! --- Donald Burr -Member The FreeBSD Project| PGP: Your *NEW* WWW HomePage: http://more.at/dburr/ ICQ #16997506 | right to Address: P.O. Box 91212, Santa Barbara, CA 93190-1212 | 'Net privacy. Phone: (805) 957-9666 FAX: (800) 492-5954 | USE IT. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Jun 28 9: 4:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from souffle.respo.or.jp (host9085.respo.or.jp [210.152.229.85]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54B2A15143; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 09:04:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from k5@respo.or.jp) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by souffle.respo.or.jp (8.9.3/3.7W) with ESMTP id BAA00992; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 01:03:22 +0900 (JST) To: ken@plutotech.com Cc: gummibear@we.mediaone.net, questions@FreeBSD.ORG, hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Are SIIG SCSI Cards Supported? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 27 Jun 1999 12:40:58 -0600 (MDT)" <199906271840.MAA11951@panzer.kdm.org> References: <199906271840.MAA11951@panzer.kdm.org> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.93 on XEmacs 20.4 (Emerald) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19990629010321Y.k5@respo.or.jp> Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 01:03:21 +0900 From: FUJISHIMA Satsuki X-Dispatcher: imput version 980905(IM100) Lines: 11 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > The Initio chips are not supported. There is a driver, written by Initio, > for the old SCSI layer, but as far as I know, it hasn't been ported to CAM. The CAM drivers for Initio chips are found at http://www.ioiscsi.com/bios.html It seems they supports Ultra and U2W IOI SCSI cards. I haven't tried it yet, but I saw some reports how it works, at Japanese mailing list. -- FUJISHIMA Satsuki To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Jun 28 9: 8:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from panzer.kdm.org (unknown [216.160.178.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5CDD15143; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 09:08:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ken@panzer.kdm.org) Received: (from ken@localhost) by panzer.kdm.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id KAA18990; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 10:08:15 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from ken) Message-Id: <199906281608.KAA18990@panzer.kdm.org> Subject: Re: Are SIIG SCSI Cards Supported? In-Reply-To: <19990629010321Y.k5@respo.or.jp> from FUJISHIMA Satsuki at "Jun 29, 1999 01:03:21 am" To: k5@respo.or.jp (FUJISHIMA Satsuki) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 10:08:15 -0600 (MDT) Cc: gummibear@we.mediaone.net, questions@FreeBSD.ORG, hardware@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Kenneth D. Merry" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org FUJISHIMA Satsuki wrote... > > The Initio chips are not supported. There is a driver, written by Initio, > > for the old SCSI layer, but as far as I know, it hasn't been ported to CAM. > > The CAM drivers for Initio chips are found at http://www.ioiscsi.com/bios.html > It seems they supports Ultra and U2W IOI SCSI cards. > > I haven't tried it yet, but I saw some reports how it works, at > Japanese mailing list. Wow, thanks for the pointer! I didn't know they had updated it, that's pretty cool. Ken -- Kenneth Merry ken@plutotech.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Jun 28 12: 6:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from roadrunner.ptcweb.net (roadrunner.ptcweb.net [208.232.10.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFDAC14F97 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 12:06:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jrogers@ptcweb.com) Received: by roadrunner.ptcweb.net with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 14:07:18 -0500 Message-ID: <01DA5B2F7781D1118B4900A0C98C76B80A09C1@roadrunner.ptcweb.net> From: Jules Rogers To: "'freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG'" Subject: Hardware RAID and IBM Netfinity Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 14:07:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have an IBM Netfinity 7000 that I'll be converting from NT to FreeBSD soon and I've seen conflicting information in some newsgroups about whether or not the RAID card in it is supported by FreeBSD. The card is an IBM ServerRAID II and it has two Adaptec AIC-7880P chips as well as an IBM PowerPC 403GCX processor. Thanks, Jules To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Jun 28 12:26:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0148314FAF for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 12:26:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA00443; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 12:22:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199906281922.MAA00443@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Jules Rogers Cc: "'freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG'" Subject: Re: Hardware RAID and IBM Netfinity In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 28 Jun 1999 14:07:17 CDT." <01DA5B2F7781D1118B4900A0C98C76B80A09C1@roadrunner.ptcweb.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 12:22:50 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I have an IBM Netfinity 7000 that I'll be converting from NT to FreeBSD soon > and I've seen conflicting information in some newsgroups about whether or > not the RAID card in it is supported by FreeBSD. The card is an IBM > ServerRAID II and it has two Adaptec AIC-7880P chips as well as an IBM > PowerPC 403GCX processor. It isn't. -- \\ The mind's the standard \\ Mike Smith \\ of the man. \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ -- Joseph Merrick \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Jun 28 13:41:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from rapier.goldsword.com (rapier.goldsword.com [199.170.202.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D953153A3; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 13:41:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jfarmer@goldsword.com) Received: (from jfarmer@localhost) by rapier.goldsword.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA05957; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 16:41:28 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 16:41:28 -0400 (EDT) From: "John T. Farmer" Message-Id: <199906282041.QAA05957@rapier.goldsword.com> To: jfarmer@goldsword.com, shawn@cpl.net Subject: Re: Are SIIG SCSI Cards Supported? Cc: crb@ChrisBowman.com, gummibear@we.mediaone.net, hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19990627194620.C21773@cpl.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 27 Jun 1999 19:46:20 Shawn Ramsey said: > The Tekram 390F (UW, 40MB card) works great in FreeBSD, I got one from > techstore.com for $84, the UW2 card from Tekram is $138, although im not > sure how well it works with FreeBSD. Where can you get an Adaptec 2940UW2 > for $160? I don't even look at Adaptec anymore because they prices are so > high, and last time I looked just a 2940UW went for closer to $300, although > the price may be lower now. > Sorry, I misread the number. The 2940UW2 is around $190. The 2940UW is around $160 to $170. (The perils of working with to little sleep...) I tend to go with the Adaptec cards in Netware servers for clients (when I can't talk them into a FreeBSD box...). Whatever can be said about Adaptec, they are supported by _everybody_ and the good ones rock! (I keep a 1542 around expressly because it will work with every OS that I can think of.) John ---------------------------------------------------------------------- John T. Farmer Owner & CTO GoldSword Systems jfarmer@goldsword.com 423-691-6498 Knoxville TN Internet Services & Servers, Network Design, Consulting To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Jun 28 17:52:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from pluto.ipass.net (pluto.ipass.net [198.79.53.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25C1514D9C; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 17:52:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ipass.net) Received: from stealth.ipass.net. (ppp-1-47.dialup.rdu.ipass.net [209.170.132.47]) by pluto.ipass.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA01341; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 20:52:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.ipass.net. (8.9.3/8.8.8) id UAA08579; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 20:54:29 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rhh) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 20:54:29 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: mestery@visi.com, Andrew Johns , Greg Lehey , Gary Kline , jgrosch@MooseRiver.com, Ludwig Pummer Cc: Dann Lunsford , questions@FreeBSD.ORG, hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Recommended laptops for FreeBSD? Message-ID: <19990628205429.A7462@ipass.net> References: <19990628111524.K15144@freebie.lemis.com> <19990628104403.G15144@freebie.lemis.com> <199906280130.SAA29932@athena.tera.com> <000701bec0fe$2b953ee0$4001a8c0@tasajohns.turnaround.com.au> <19990628104403.G15144@freebie.lemis.com> <000701bec0fe$2b953ee0$4001a8c0@tasajohns.turnaround.com.au> <3776BE9B.E0F19030@greycat.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: ; from mestery@visi.com on Sun, Jun 27, 1999 at 07:28:42PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Gary Kline : |Dann Lunsford: | |> Hi! I need some advice (or at least some information :-)) about buying |> a laptop. What brands/models support FreeBSD best, etc.? ... | There's a web page at http://home.jp.FreeBSD.org/~toshi/PAO/LTS.txt, | and another at http://www.cse.ucsc.edu/~dkulp/fbsd/laptop.html. Apart | from that, it's " suck it and see", I'm afraid. Does anyone have experience with wireless ethernet on a FreeBSD laptop? I've been thinking "FreeBSD laptop" for a while too. Though computing away from home would be nice, I'd really like to be able to cart it around the house -- living room, deck, kitchen, etc. -- without dragging a coax or twisted pair cable around. How well does wireless ethernet work? Would it be reasonable to expect to use it between floors in a house? Do all wireless LANs use use the same frequency range? What receivers are needed, how much do they cost, and how well do they work for you? It'd sure be slick to have something like this up-and-running. Though products like the WebPad (http://www.cyrix.com/html/emerging/webpad/wp_bkgrd.htm) and the Qubit (http://www.qubit.net/) may be eventually come to market, they probably won't be any more open than E-books are. BTW, lots of good info on those links Gary. Thanks. Randall Wireless LAN cards (from the PAO page): AT&T GIS WaveLAN (WaveLAN IEEE is not supported) OK wlp *2 Digital RoamAbout/DS OK wlp *2 Lucent WaveLAN OK wlp *2 Xircom Netwave AirSurfer OK cnw NTT-DATA ASTROWINK-M/MMOIL(IrLAN) OK ed Victor M-MOIL CARD OK sn ICOM UX-136 OK ux *15 MELCO AIRCONNECT WLI-PCM OK ux *15 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Jun 28 23:49:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from dlanor.evertsen.nl (node11a94.a2000.nl [24.132.26.148]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1ED814C87 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 23:49:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ronald@node11a94.a2000.nl) Received: from localhost (ronald@localhost) by dlanor.evertsen.nl (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id IAA00379; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 08:49:09 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ronald@node11a94.a2000.nl) X-Authentication-Warning: dlanor.evertsen.nl: ronald owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 08:49:08 +0200 (CEST) From: "Ronald 'Ko' Klop" To: Alex Povolotsky Cc: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CDRecord not seeing CD-R In-Reply-To: <199906250536.JAA83650@shuttle.svib.ru> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 25 Jun 1999, Alex Povolotsky wrote: > I _do_ know that SCSI is cool. I do know that IDE sucks. BTW, how do I check > that DMA is on, and should it help _really_? See 'man wd' and the options in LINT. It isn't on by default. If it works FreeBSD will say 'DMA' while probing your harddisks at boottime. I wonder why it isn't on by default, because it's just probing for DMA. So if you don't have it you will not get it. And most modern computers can use it. Greetings, Ronald. -- Ronald Klop http://node11a94.a2000.nl/~ronald/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Jun 30 5:23:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from maui.net (maui.net [207.175.210.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9009814BCE; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 05:23:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from langfod@kauai.pacificglobal.net) Received: from kauai.pacificglobal.net (Kauai.PacificGlobal.NET [209.84.182.101]) by maui.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA18025; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 02:20:50 -1000 (HST) Received: (from langfod@localhost) by kauai.pacificglobal.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) id CAA18398; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 02:20:49 -1000 (HST) From: David Langford Message-Id: <199906301220.CAA18398@kauai.pacificglobal.net> Subject: Re: Are SIIG SCSI Cards Supported? In-Reply-To: <199906281608.KAA18990@panzer.kdm.org> from "Kenneth D. Merry" at "Jun 28, 1999 10: 8:15 am" To: scsi@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 02:20:49 -1000 (HST) X-blank-line: This space intentionaly left blank. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Okay I just tried it with current and it seems to work fine. Note that you need to add "COMPAT_PCI_DRIVER(iha, i91u_device);" somewhere around line 133 of i91u.c. Right now my system is running off of a SIIG AP-40 (~$140) and all seems fine. Also I have a IWILL SIDE-2935UW that at first glance seems to work with this same driver. I havent had a chance to do any real testing with either one though. Now if we can just get this driver into the main tree. Since it looks likes Adaptec has pretty much killed the Sysmbios/NCR chipset the Initio line may be the next reasonable cost SCSI controller... -David Langford langfod@dihelix.com >> > The Initio chips are not supported. There is a driver, written by Initio, >> > for the old SCSI layer, but as far as I know, it hasn't been ported to CAM. >> >> The CAM drivers for Initio chips are found at http://www.ioiscsi.com/bios.html >> It seems they supports Ultra and U2W IOI SCSI cards. >> I haven't tried it yet, but I saw some reports how it works, at >> Japanese mailing list. > >Wow, thanks for the pointer! I didn't know they had updated it, that's >pretty cool. >Ken >-- >Kenneth Merry >ken@plutotech.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Jul 1 15:34:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from biggusdiskus.flyingfox.com (parker-T1-2-gw.sf3d.best.net [209.157.165.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B16214DE8 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 15:34:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jas@flyingfox.com) Received: (from jas@localhost) by biggusdiskus.flyingfox.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) id QAA05133 for hardware@freebsd.org; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 16:34:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 16:34:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Jim Shankland Message-Id: <199907012334.QAA05133@biggusdiskus.flyingfox.com> To: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: underclocking Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org OK, so we know (or should know) all about overclocking and its attendant risks and benefits. I want to know about *underclocking*. Specifically, I have a brand new Asus P5A-B motherboard with a 400 MHz AMD K6-2 processor and a 32 MB SDRAM PC100 DIMM. I don't need anywhere near that much CPU power in the current application, and I'm wondering if the board and CPU will run cooler, live longer, or both, if I set the jumpers to run the CPU at, say, 333 MHz with a 95 MHz bus, or even 266 MHz with a 66 MHz bus? Or am I just being silly? (I realize this isn't a FreeBSD-specific question, but the board *will* be running FreeBSD. I promise not to ask this list for advice on toasting croissants, even if I do succeed in porting FreeBSD to my toaster oven.) Jim Shankland NLynx Systems, Inc. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Jul 1 19:39:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mail.actrix.gen.nz (mail2.actrix.gen.nz [203.96.16.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF96D156C9 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 19:39:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from junkmale@xtra.co.nz) Received: from actrix.gen.nz (www@lemuria.actrix.gen.nz [203.96.16.20]) by mail.actrix.gen.nz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA18808 for ; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 14:39:13 +1200 (NZST) From: "Dan Langille" Reply-To: junkmale@xtra.co.nz To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 14:39:14 nzst Subject: dual CPU compatibility issues X-Mailer: DMailWeb Web to Mail Gateway 2.1t, http://netwinsite.com/top_mail.htm Message-id: <377c2652.750a.0@actrix.gen.nz> X-User-Info: 202.37.52.5 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have an old DEC box which supports a dual processor setup. I've obtained a Pentium 120 chip (the maximum speed supported by this box). I'm in the process of tracking down another P120. How compatible does the second CPU have to be with the first? Is it enough to be another Pentium 120? Do they have to be from the same batch or something? - Dan Langille To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Jul 1 21:23:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mercury.gfit.net (ns.gfit.net [209.41.124.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A91814CD5 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 21:23:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@embt.com) Received: from paranor.embt.net (timembt.iinc.com [206.67.169.229]) by mercury.gfit.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA12867; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 23:23:44 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from tom@embt.com) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990702002317.007170bc@mail.embt.com> X-Sender: tembt@mail.embt.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 00:23:17 -0400 To: junkmale@xtra.co.nz From: Tom Embt Subject: Re: dual CPU compatibility issues Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <377c2652.750a.0@actrix.gen.nz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 02:39 PM 7/2/99 nzst, you wrote: >I have an old DEC box which supports a dual processor setup. I've obtained a >Pentium 120 chip (the maximum speed supported by this box). I'm in the process >of tracking down another P120. > >How compatible does the second CPU have to be with the first? Is it enough >to be another Pentium 120? Do they have to be from the same batch or something? >- >Dan Langille > Not just any CPU will work! The CPU's should be the same stepping number, and preferably be type "SSS" CPUs (the last S is crucial). In the early-mid Pentium days, Intel had some difficulty manufacturing perfect chips, and thus sold some of the imperfect chips with certain restrictions on core voltage, timings, and (you got it!) SMP capability. Following a very productive (read: lucky) search on infoseek, it looks like you'll be wanting a SY033, SK110, or Q0776. If your board requires 82498/82493 or 82497/82492 compliant cache timings then the SK110 and Q0776 may not work. The good news is that all SMP-capable 120's are of the same stepping number, and should interoperate (aside from the above mentioned cache limitation). See the following links for more info: http://www.asus.com.tw/Products/TECHREF/CPU/Intel/intel-120.html http://www.asus.com.tw/Products/TECHREF/CPU/Intel/intel-ref.html http://www.asus.com.tw/Products/TECHREF/CPU/Intel/intel.html I do, however, see no reason why you couldn't mix and match P120's and P133's OR use a pair of P150's and jumper them at a 60MHz bus and 2x multiplier. Hope this helped, ------------------------------------------------------------------ "You're one of those condescending Unix computer users!" "Here's a nickel, kid. Get yourself a better computer" - Dilbert. Tom Embt ICQ UIN: 11245398 tom@embt.com d:-)> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Jul 2 4:42:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz (unknown [203.96.92.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B08F714EB6 for ; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 04:42:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from junkmale@pop3.xtra.co.nz) Received: from wocker ([210.55.152.13]) by mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with SMTP id <19990702114513.RXJC112692.mta2-rme@wocker>; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 23:45:13 +1200 From: "Dan Langille" Organization: The FreeBSD Diary To: Tom Embt Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 23:42:48 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: dual CPU compatibility issues Reply-To: junkmale@xtra.co.nz Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <3.0.3.32.19990702002317.007170bc@mail.embt.com> References: <377c2652.750a.0@actrix.gen.nz> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) Message-Id: <19990702114513.RXJC112692.mta2-rme@wocker> Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2 Jul 99, at 0:23, Tom Embt wrote: > At 02:39 PM 7/2/99 nzst, you wrote: > >I have an old DEC box which supports a dual processor setup. I've obtained a > >Pentium 120 chip (the maximum speed supported by this box). I'm in the > process > >of tracking down another P120. > > > >How compatible does the second CPU have to be with the first? Is it enough > >to be another Pentium 120? Do they have to be from the same batch or > something? > > Not just any CPU will work! > > The CPU's should be the same stepping number, and preferably be type "SSS" > CPUs (the last S is crucial). In the early-mid Pentium days, Intel had > some difficulty manufacturing perfect chips, and thus sold some of the > imperfect chips with certain restrictions on core voltage, timings, and > (you got it!) SMP capability. > > Following a very productive (read: lucky) search on infoseek, it looks like > you'll be wanting a SY033, SK110, or Q0776. If your board requires > 82498/82493 or 82497/82492 compliant cache timings then the SK110 and Q0776 > may not work. The good news is that all SMP-capable 120's are of the same > stepping number, and should interoperate (aside from the above mentioned > cache limitation). Ummmm, I may be out of luck. This is what's on the bottom of the chip: A5451644AA MALAY CS BP80502120 SU033/VMU > > See the following links for more info: I'll check those over the weekend. Thanks. -- Dan Langille - DVL Software Limited The FreeBSD Diary - http://www.FreeBSDDiary.org/freebsd/ NZ FreeBSD User Group - http://www.nzfug.nz.freebsd.org/ The Racing System - http://www.racingsystem.com/racingsystem.htm To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Jul 2 5:42:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from king.ukrnet.net (king.ukrnet.net [212.26.128.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91A7C150BB; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 05:42:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnut@fc.kiev.ua) Received: from fc.kiev.ua (uucp@localhost) by king.ukrnet.net (8.8.8-MVC-221297/8.8.8) with UUCP id PAA23443; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 15:40:33 +0300 Received: from blend.fc.kiev.ua (blend.fc.kiev.ua [192.168.5.17]) by indust.fc.kiev.ua (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA05391; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 15:38:34 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from gnut@fc.kiev.ua) Received: from localhost (gnut@localhost) by blend.fc.kiev.ua (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA92750; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 15:40:53 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from gnut@fc.kiev.ua) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 15:40:53 +0300 (EEST) From: "Oles' Hnatkevych" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: compex linkport/Enet-B PCMCIA adapter Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello! How we can make them work with FreeBSD 3.2? This ethernet cards claim to be NE2000 compatible, but PCMCIA. FreeBSD works, kerntel says that card exists, but no interface. Thank you in advance. With best wishes, Oles' Hnatkevych, http://gnut.kiev.ua, gnut@fc.kiev.ua Finance & Credit Banking Corporation, Kyiv, Ukraine. Artema str. 60, +380 44 4906877 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Jul 2 7:14: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from cod.progroup.com (cod.progroup.com [207.44.190.233]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42A1C14D05; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 07:14:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from craig@progroup.com) Received: from progroup.com (guppy.progroup.com [207.44.190.237]) by cod.progroup.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id HAA12508; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 07:09:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from craig@progroup.com) Message-ID: <377CC8DA.DA2AD533@progroup.com> Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 07:12:42 -0700 From: Craig Shaver Organization: Productivity Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Oles' Hnatkevych" Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: compex linkport/Enet-B PCMCIA adapter References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Oles' Hnatkevych wrote: > > Hello! > > How we can make them work with FreeBSD 3.2? > This ethernet cards claim to be NE2000 compatible, > but PCMCIA. FreeBSD works, kerntel says that card > exists, but no interface. > > Thank you in advance. > So you see it on boot up? What do you see when you do an ifconfig -a ?? Please post results. -- Craig Shaver (craig@progroup.com) (650)390-0654 Productivity Group POB 60458 Sunnyvale, CA 94088 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Jul 3 6:25:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mailarray.mpx.com.au (local2.mpx.com.au [203.29.192.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D50214C38 for ; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 06:25:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from death@southcom.com.au) Received: from x(really [198.142.231.196]) by mailarray.mpx.com.au via smtpd with esmtp id for ; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 23:25:55 +1000 (/\##/\ Smail3.1.30.13.Y2K #30.35 built 1-mar-01) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19990703232102.00947820@mail.southcom.com.au> X-Sender: death@mail.southcom.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 23:25:21 +1000 To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG From: death Subject: Intel PRO/100+ Network Card Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Would anyone know if the Intel PRO/100+ network card works with FreeBSD and if so, what interface would it use? Cheers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Jul 3 7:23:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from tasam.com (tasam.com [206.161.83.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91C4114E27 for ; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 07:23:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd.list@bug.tasam.com) Received: from bug (209-122-246-82.s590.tnt1.lnh.md.dialup.rcn.com [209.122.246.82]) by tasam.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA21034; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 10:23:13 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <006601bec55f$a0ca9ab0$0286860a@tasam.com> From: "Joe Gleason" To: , "death" References: <4.2.0.58.19990703232102.00947820@mail.southcom.com.au> Subject: Re: Intel PRO/100+ Network Card Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1999 10:23:22 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Yes, fxp0 > > Hi, > > Would anyone know if the Intel PRO/100+ network card works with FreeBSD and > if so, what interface would it use? > > Cheers > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Jul 3 9:54:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from c523578-a.sttls1.wa.home.com (c523578-a.sttls1.wa.home.com [24.5.122.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1E8914EF6 for ; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 09:54:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from todd@c523578-a.sttls1.wa.home.com) Received: from localhost (todd@localhost) by c523578-a.sttls1.wa.home.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA07124; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 10:02:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from todd@c523578-a.sttls1.wa.home.com) Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1999 10:02:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Todd Backman To: death Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Intel PRO/100+ Network Card In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.19990703232102.00947820@mail.southcom.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org It works great and the interface is fxp0. On Sat, 3 Jul 1999, death wrote: > > Hi, > > Would anyone know if the Intel PRO/100+ network card works with FreeBSD and > if so, what interface would it use? > > Cheers > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message