From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jan 17 13:57:35 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA05029 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 13:57:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mailhost.clipper.net (mailhost.clipper.net [207.109.253.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA05020 for ; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 13:57:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tim@clipper.net) Received: from localhost (tim@localhost) by mailhost.clipper.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA21644; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 13:57:21 -0800 Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 13:57:21 -0800 (PST) From: Tim Wolfe To: Lutz Rabing cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Firewall route add / Cisco In-Reply-To: <199901162121.WAA21306@office.omc.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 16 Jan 1999, Lutz Rabing wrote: > This is not exactly a FreeBSD question. However, we use a FreeBSD firewall > and have FreeBSD customer servers behind it ... > The problem is to assign a /24 to a customer server with: > route add -net 1.2.3.0/24 -interface xl1 > > I can't do that because I have to leave one IP address of the /24 on the > cisco. e.g.: > customer-server: 62.62.62.2 .. 62.62.62.254 > cisco : 62.62.62.1 > > Does someone know how to alias a /24 to the cisco router without assigning > an IP to it? I checked the cisco docs, but did not find a clue. You have to have some IP connection between the cisco and the FreeBSD router. (Unless someone smarter than I knows how to make cisco's ip unnumbered and FreeBSD's equivalent function play nice together.) What you need to do is assign a /30 (4 IPs, 1 network address, 1 broadcast and 2 usable IPs one each for the cisco, say 192.168.1.1, and the FreeBSD box, 192.168.1.2) to connect them together. If you do not have enough real IPs, you can use private RFC1918 space (ie, 192.168.1.0/30) to connect the two routers. Then simply add a route on your cisco like: conf term ip route 1.2.3.0 255.255.255.0 192.168.1.2 Hope this helps, Tim ---------------------------------------------------- Timothy M. Wolfe | Why surf when you can Sail? tim@clipper.net | Join Oregon's Premier Sr. Network Engineer | Wireless Internet Provider! ClipperNet Corporation | http://www.clipper.net/ ---------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jan 17 14:17:34 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA08529 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 14:17:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA08524 for ; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 14:17:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from julian@whistle.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by alpo.whistle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA28800; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 14:08:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from s204m82.isp.whistle.com(207.76.204.82) via SMTP by alpo.whistle.com, id smtpdX28795; Sun Jan 17 22:08:23 1999 Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 13:08:29 -0800 (PST) From: Julian Elischer X-Sender: julian@s204m82.isp.whistle.com To: Tim Wolfe cc: Lutz Rabing , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Firewall route add / Cisco In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org With some routers you can assign one of the /24 addresses to be both ends of the point-to-point link. the two ends don't really have to have different addresses in general (though that may not be true of the Cisco implementation). On Sun, 17 Jan 1999, Tim Wolfe wrote: > On Sat, 16 Jan 1999, Lutz Rabing wrote: > > > This is not exactly a FreeBSD question. However, we use a FreeBSD firewall > > and have FreeBSD customer servers behind it ... > > The problem is to assign a /24 to a customer server with: > > route add -net 1.2.3.0/24 -interface xl1 > > > > I can't do that because I have to leave one IP address of the /24 on the > > cisco. e.g.: > > customer-server: 62.62.62.2 .. 62.62.62.254 > > cisco : 62.62.62.1 > > > > Does someone know how to alias a /24 to the cisco router without assigning > > an IP to it? I checked the cisco docs, but did not find a clue. > > You have to have some IP connection between the cisco and the FreeBSD > router. (Unless someone smarter than I knows how to make cisco's ip > unnumbered and FreeBSD's equivalent function play nice together.) What you > need to do is assign a /30 (4 IPs, 1 network address, 1 broadcast and 2 > usable IPs one each for the cisco, say 192.168.1.1, and the FreeBSD box, > 192.168.1.2) to connect them > together. If you do not have enough real IPs, you can use private RFC1918 > space (ie, 192.168.1.0/30) to connect the two routers. Then simply add a > route on your cisco like: > > conf term > ip route 1.2.3.0 255.255.255.0 192.168.1.2 > > Hope this helps, > > Tim > > ---------------------------------------------------- > Timothy M. Wolfe | Why surf when you can Sail? > tim@clipper.net | Join Oregon's Premier > Sr. Network Engineer | Wireless Internet Provider! > ClipperNet Corporation | http://www.clipper.net/ > ---------------------------------------------------- > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jan 17 14:27:07 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA10057 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 14:27:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from localhost.my.domain (pm2-66.cityscope.net [209.16.48.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA10045; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 14:27:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bahwi@technologist.com) Received: from localhost (bahwi@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.my.domain (8.9.2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA01114; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 16:26:57 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from bahwi@technologist.com) Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 16:26:56 -0600 (CST) From: bahwi X-Sender: bahwi@localhost To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: FrontPage questions Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, we are having a problem with frontpage from the apache13-fp port. I was hoping someone could help. When frontpage code is called it gives a segmentation fault. httpd: child pid 1554 exit signal Segmentation on fault (11) Can anyone help? Apache is 1.3.3 on a 2.2.6-STABLE machine from the apache13-fp port. Thanks. Please reply privately. -- bahwi@technologist.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jan 17 15:55:39 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA23224 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 15:55:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from salmon.hei.net (salmon.hei.net [209.222.163.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA23218; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 15:55:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from john@salmon.hei.net) Received: from localhost (john@localhost) by salmon.hei.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA17042; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 15:55:28 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 15:55:28 -0800 (PST) From: "John A. Hengstler" To: bahwi cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FrontPage questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have also had same problems running on 2.2.8-stable and 3.0-current John On Sun, 17 Jan 1999, bahwi wrote: > Hello, we are having a problem with frontpage from the apache13-fp port. > I was hoping someone could help. When frontpage code is called it > gives a segmentation fault. > > httpd: child pid 1554 exit signal Segmentation on fault (11) > > Can anyone help? Apache is 1.3.3 on a 2.2.6-STABLE machine from the > apache13-fp port. Thanks. Please reply privately. > > -- > bahwi@technologist.com > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jan 17 16:06:28 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA26981 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 16:06:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from peacock.tci.com (coral.tci.com [198.178.8.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA26900; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 16:06:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris@tci.com) Received: from oreo.tci.com (co-chris-pc01.tci.com [172.18.27.65]) by peacock.tci.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id RAA18831; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 17:06:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from tci.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by oreo.tci.com (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA01534; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 17:05:57 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <36A27AE5.BEF6CE5B@tci.com> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 17:05:57 -0700 From: Chris Tubutis Organization: Tele-Communications, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.7 sun4m) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "John A. Hengstler" CC: bahwi , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FrontPage questions References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org It amazes that people would even *think* of infecting a perfectly good, usable UNIX system with a Redmond "product." I run several Web servers where I work, and I explicitly and intentionally keep that crap far away from 'em. ct "John A. Hengstler" wrote: > > I have also had same problems running on 2.2.8-stable and 3.0-current > > John > > On Sun, 17 Jan 1999, bahwi wrote: > > > Hello, we are having a problem with frontpage from the apache13-fp port. > > I was hoping someone could help. When frontpage code is called it > > gives a segmentation fault. > > > > httpd: child pid 1554 exit signal Segmentation on fault (11) > > > > Can anyone help? Apache is 1.3.3 on a 2.2.6-STABLE machine from the > > apache13-fp port. Thanks. Please reply privately. > > > > -- > > bahwi@technologist.com > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- Chris Tubutis | Tele-Communications, Inc. TCI Advanced Information Technology | AIT - Internal Networks (303) 267-7503 | 5970 S. Greenwood Plaza Blvd. tubutis.chris@tci.com | Englewood, CO 80111-4713 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jan 17 17:22:10 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA09063 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 17:22:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from luke.cpl.net (luke.cpl.net [209.150.92.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA09049; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 17:22:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shawn@luke.cpl.net) Received: (from shawn@localhost) by luke.cpl.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA23378; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 17:20:44 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <19990117172044.A17831@cpl.net> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 17:20:44 -0800 From: Shawn Ramsey To: Chris Tubutis , "John A. Hengstler" Cc: bahwi , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FrontPage questions References: <36A27AE5.BEF6CE5B@tci.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93i In-Reply-To: <36A27AE5.BEF6CE5B@tci.com>; from Chris Tubutis on Sun, Jan 17, 1999 at 05:05:57PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > It amazes that people would even *think* of infecting a perfectly good, > usable UNIX system with a Redmond "product." I run several Web servers > where I work, and I explicitly and intentionally keep that crap far away > from 'em. I don't like em anymore than the next guy... but if customers are banging down your door for Frontpage support, what are you supposed to do? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jan 17 18:47:44 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA21238 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 18:47:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from peacock.tci.com (coral.tci.com [198.178.8.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA21221; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 18:47:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris@tci.com) Received: from oreo.tci.com (co-chris-pc01.tci.com [172.18.27.65]) by peacock.tci.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id TAA21993; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 19:47:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from tci.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by oreo.tci.com (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA01605; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 19:47:14 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <36A2A0B2.8C150360@tci.com> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 19:47:14 -0700 From: Chris Tubutis Organization: Tele-Communications, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.7 sun4m) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Shawn Ramsey CC: "John A. Hengstler" , bahwi , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FrontPage questions References: <36A27AE5.BEF6CE5B@tci.com> <19990117172044.A17831@cpl.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Shawn Ramsey wrote: > > > It amazes that people would even *think* of infecting a perfectly good, > > usable UNIX system with a Redmond "product." I run several Web servers > > where I work, and I explicitly and intentionally keep that crap far away > > from 'em. > > I don't like em anymore than the next guy... but if customers are banging > down your door for Frontpage support, what are you supposed to do? Yeah, I thought about this after I sent that message. Please, nobody take any offense at what I said; I certainly didn't mean to imply any. I'm kind of lucky in that my "customers" are all employees and don't really have much of a choice in the matter. I have to work in my employer's best interests. Luckily, Redmond makes it pretty easy for me to act the way I do. The security and interoperability considerations of using the FP stuff were simply too great for me to start using them without some fairly hefty changes in infrastructure design and operation. Anyway... it seems that you don't really have too much of a choice (aside from maybe putting up a stronger door :). IIRC, the FP stuff is used only during site development and management operations, and aren't needed or used in everyday Web serving. Regardless, if I had to use the stuff, I'd set up a separate environment exclusively for hosting the web server(s) that have been infected, then perhaps mirror the resulting content on uninfected servers. You can use virtual servers, URL forwarding and mod_rewrite to make things appear to be coming from anywhere you'd like. This leads back to the *original* problem - the stuff ain't working any more. *sigh* Things get so much more difficult when there's money involved. ct -- Chris Tubutis | Tele-Communications, Inc. TCI Advanced Information Technology | AIT - Internal Networks (303) 267-7503 | 5970 S. Greenwood Plaza Blvd. tubutis.chris@tci.com | Englewood, CO 80111-4713 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jan 17 20:31:36 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA10274 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 20:31:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fragile.ideal.net.au (fragile.ideal.net.au [203.20.241.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA10259; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 20:31:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rob@ideal.net.au) Received: from localhost (rob@localhost) by fragile.ideal.net.au (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA28384; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 15:31:18 +1100 (EST) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 15:31:18 +1100 (EST) From: Rob Wise To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG cc: "John A. Hengstler" , bahwi Subject: Re: FrontPage questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-tra: mail header X-WonK: Hmm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Does anyone know why it is happening? Bad BSDi emulation, or bad code in the frontpage module? -- Rob Wise - Senior Systems Administrator - IDEAL Internet email: rob@ideal.net.au phone: +61 2 4628 8888 fax: +61 2 4628 8890 On Sun, 17 Jan 1999, John A. Hengstler wrote: > I have also had same problems running on 2.2.8-stable and 3.0-current > > > John > > On Sun, 17 Jan 1999, bahwi wrote: > > > Hello, we are having a problem with frontpage from the apache13-fp port. > > I was hoping someone could help. When frontpage code is called it > > gives a segmentation fault. > > > > httpd: child pid 1554 exit signal Segmentation on fault (11) > > > > Can anyone help? Apache is 1.3.3 on a 2.2.6-STABLE machine from the > > apache13-fp port. Thanks. Please reply privately. > > > > -- > > bahwi@technologist.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jan 17 21:08:08 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA15552 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 21:08:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from salmon.hei.net (salmon.hei.net [209.222.163.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA15515; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 21:08:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from john@salmon.hei.net) Received: from localhost (john@localhost) by salmon.hei.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA18895; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 21:07:27 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 21:07:27 -0800 (PST) From: "John A. Hengstler" To: Shawn Ramsey cc: Chris Tubutis , bahwi , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FrontPage questions In-Reply-To: <19990117172044.A17831@cpl.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I agree, just remember the cardinal rules gentleman. Rule #1. The customer is always right. Rule #2. If the customer is wrong, refer to rule #1. I don't care for frontpage as well, but since 99% of our customer base is a microsoft environment, us ***UNIX*** guys have to mix and match to please our customers! John On Sun, 17 Jan 1999, Shawn Ramsey wrote: > > It amazes that people would even *think* of infecting a perfectly good, > > usable UNIX system with a Redmond "product." I run several Web servers > > where I work, and I explicitly and intentionally keep that crap far away > > from 'em. > > I don't like em anymore than the next guy... but if customers are banging > down your door for Frontpage support, what are you supposed to do? > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jan 17 21:31:12 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA19243 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 21:31:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from netdev.comsys.com (netdev.comsys.com [192.94.236.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA19235; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 21:31:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from alex@comsys.com) Received: from comsys.com ([204.202.49.59]) by netdev.comsys.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA03774; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 22:30:52 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <36A2C660.5565EE16@comsys.com> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 21:28:00 -0800 From: Alex Huppenthal Organization: RCS, Incorporated X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rob Wise CC: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, "John A. Hengstler" , bahwi Subject: Re: FrontPage questions References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The ports collection apache13fp compiles and works fine here.. Rob Wise wrote: > > Does anyone know why it is happening? > > Bad BSDi emulation, or bad code in the frontpage module? > > -- > Rob Wise - Senior Systems Administrator - IDEAL Internet > email: rob@ideal.net.au phone: +61 2 4628 8888 fax: +61 2 4628 8890 > > On Sun, 17 Jan 1999, John A. Hengstler wrote: > > > I have also had same problems running on 2.2.8-stable and 3.0-current > > > > > > John > > > > On Sun, 17 Jan 1999, bahwi wrote: > > > > > Hello, we are having a problem with frontpage from the apache13-fp port. > > > I was hoping someone could help. When frontpage code is called it > > > gives a segmentation fault. > > > > > > httpd: child pid 1554 exit signal Segmentation on fault (11) > > > > > > Can anyone help? Apache is 1.3.3 on a 2.2.6-STABLE machine from the > > > apache13-fp port. Thanks. Please reply privately. > > > > > > -- > > > bahwi@technologist.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jan 17 23:41:38 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA04305 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 23:41:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from arc.netlab.sk (arc.netlab.sk [195.168.1.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA04279; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 23:41:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lists@gal.netlab.sk) Received: from gericom-tps (nobody@qwyx.netlab.sk [195.168.0.2]) by arc.netlab.sk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id IAA21571; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 08:41:25 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from lists@gal.netlab.sk) Reply-To: From: "Tomas TPS Ulej" To: , , Subject: Need non-case sensitive fs Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 08:41:25 +0100 Message-ID: <001c01be42b5$f433c5a0$231da8c3@gericom-tps.tps.sk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org We are ISP running FreeBSD as ftp & email server. Now we want move most of our webs to apache + fp from our WIN NT4 Server. Problem is that our customers have their pages deisgned for WINDOWS Platform. I need something like non case sensitive filesystem . I need implementation for ufs ') which will work as this scheme... Funcion Read "DeMOFile.jpg" reads "DEMOFILE.jpg". So implementation like DOS/WINDOWS OS have. Upcase equal Downcase. Any ideas? -- Tomas TPS Ulej System Administrator tps@internet.sk, tu36-ripe ISP TELENOR INTERNET Ltd., NETLAB+ Network "Everything on this Earth is at most final beta release..." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 18 01:33:26 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA16266 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 01:33:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from caladan.tdx.co.uk (caladan.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA16259 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 01:33:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) Received: from tdx.co.uk (lorca-tx.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.242]) by caladan.tdx.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA55141; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 09:33:07 GMT Message-ID: <36A2FF93.16A9635@tdx.co.uk> Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 09:32:03 +0000 From: Karl Pielorz Organization: TDX - The Digital eXchange X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lists@gal.netlab.sk CC: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Need non-case sensitive fs References: <001c01be42b5$f433c5a0$231da8c3@gericom-tps.tps.sk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Tomas TPS Ulej wrote: > > We are ISP running FreeBSD as ftp & email server. Now we want move most of > our webs to apache + fp from our WIN NT4 Server. Problem is that our > customers have their pages deisgned for WINDOWS Platform. I need something > like non case sensitive filesystem . I need implementation for ufs ') which > will work as this scheme... > > Funcion Read "DeMOFile.jpg" reads "DEMOFILE.jpg". So implementation like > DOS/WINDOWS OS have. Upcase equal Downcase. Any ideas? A number of suggestions spring to mind, some of which are definitely better than others... (The first good idea being - _Don't Cross post!_ especially to that many groups, it really gets people annoyed... :) 1. Put the pages all on an MSDOS filesystem, rather than a unix one... (Bad for any names over 8 chars I guess? - I don't know if FreeBSD has long filename support - and if it does, your back to the original problem). 2. Write a script that piles through all the pages and adjusts the filenames of local files all to lower-case, and then renames all the local files to lowercase... (This might break pages that are referenced externally)... 3. Apache has a 'spelling' module, but I have a nasty idea this only works for HTML page names, and not graphics (it corrects typos etc.) 4. Get someone to clone the UFS code, and make it munge all the filenames to lowercase before processing requests... I say clone, because I don't particularly like the idea of doing it to _all_ the partitions on the system, but I'd guess it's probably a fairly trivial hack to do... To be honest we don't have this problem too much - as most Windows users use the _same_ convention in their HTML that they save the file to disk with... We did have a problem with 'index.html', vs 'INDEX.htm' vs. 'INDEX.HTML' vs. 'index.htm' - but this was soon fixed from the Apache side (A fix I didn't particular like - why fix it, why not just explain to people the mistake they are making? :) -Kp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 18 02:01:06 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA19665 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 02:01:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mimas.eclipse.net.uk (mimas.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA19652; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 02:00:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stuart@eclipse.net.uk) Received: from eclipse.net.uk (mimas.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.17]) by mimas.eclipse.net.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA09499; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 10:00:39 GMT Message-ID: <36A30646.B5C623EB@eclipse.net.uk> Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 10:00:38 +0000 From: Stuart Henderson Organization: Eclipse Networking X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.35 i686) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lists@gal.netlab.sk CC: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Need non-case sensitive fs References: <001c01be42b5$f433c5a0$231da8c3@gericom-tps.tps.sk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Funcion Read "DeMOFile.jpg" reads "DEMOFILE.jpg". So implementation like > DOS/WINDOWS OS have. Upcase equal Downcase. Any ideas? http://www.apache.org/docs/mod/mod_speling.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 18 03:02:59 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA26066 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 03:02:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from caladan.tdx.co.uk (caladan.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA26061 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 03:02:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) Received: from tdx.co.uk (lorca-tx.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.242]) by caladan.tdx.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA55607; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 11:02:42 GMT Message-ID: <36A31491.9875B056@tdx.co.uk> Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 11:01:37 +0000 From: Karl Pielorz Organization: TDX - The Digital eXchange X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stuart Henderson CC: lists@gal.netlab.sk, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Need non-case sensitive fs References: <001c01be42b5$f433c5a0$231da8c3@gericom-tps.tps.sk> <36A30646.B5C623EB@eclipse.net.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Stuart Henderson wrote: > > > Funcion Read "DeMOFile.jpg" reads "DEMOFILE.jpg". So implementation like > > DOS/WINDOWS OS have. Upcase equal Downcase. Any ideas? > > http://www.apache.org/docs/mod/mod_speling.html I don't think that works for '' or included files does it? - AFAIK it only works for the main documents, e.g. "infex.html" -> index.html / INDEX.HTML -> index.html etc. -Kp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 18 03:52:33 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA00310 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 03:52:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mimas.eclipse.net.uk (mimas.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA00305 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 03:52:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stuart@eclipse.net.uk) Received: from eclipse.net.uk (mimas.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.17]) by mimas.eclipse.net.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA12158; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 11:52:13 GMT Message-ID: <36A3206C.BAC24C09@eclipse.net.uk> Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 11:52:12 +0000 From: Stuart Henderson Organization: Eclipse Networking X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.35 i686) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Karl Pielorz CC: lists@gal.netlab.sk, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Need non-case sensitive fs References: <001c01be42b5$f433c5a0$231da8c3@gericom-tps.tps.sk> <36A30646.B5C623EB@eclipse.net.uk> <36A31491.9875B056@tdx.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Karl Pielorz wrote: > > > > Funcion Read "DeMOFile.jpg" reads "DEMOFILE.jpg". So implementation like > > > DOS/WINDOWS OS have. Upcase equal Downcase. Any ideas? > > > > http://www.apache.org/docs/mod/mod_speling.html > > I don't think that works for '' or included files does it? It works with all standard documents, although it won't work for "virtual directories" for example or for ~xxxxx style usernames. On a recent Apache distribution (like the one built by -current ports) you just need to add "CheckSpelling on" to the relevant place/s in access.conf. -- // Stuart Henderson // Network engineer, Eclipse Networking // http://www.eclipse.net.uk/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 18 05:07:24 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA08486 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 05:07:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hecate.webcom.com (hecate.webcom.com [209.1.28.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA08481 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 05:07:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from graeme@echidna.com) Received: from kigal.webcom.com (kigal.webcom.com [209.1.28.57]) by hecate.webcom.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id FAA28034; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 05:07:18 -0800 Received: from [204.143.69.15] by inanna.webcom.com (WebCom SMTP 1.2.1) with SMTP id 16230495; Mon Jan 18 05:04 PST 1999 Message-Id: <36A33253.106C@echidna.com> Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 08:08:35 -0500 From: Graeme Tait Organization: Echidna X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Stuart Henderson Cc: Karl Pielorz , lists@gal.netlab.sk, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Need non-case sensitive fs References: <001c01be42b5$f433c5a0$231da8c3@gericom-tps.tps.sk> <36A30646.B5C623EB@eclipse.net.uk> <36A31491.9875B056@tdx.co.uk> <36A3206C.BAC24C09@eclipse.net.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Stuart Henderson wrote: > > Karl Pielorz wrote: > > > > > > Funcion Read "DeMOFile.jpg" reads "DEMOFILE.jpg". So implementation like > > > > DOS/WINDOWS OS have. Upcase equal Downcase. Any ideas? > > > > > > http://www.apache.org/docs/mod/mod_speling.html > > > > I don't think that works for '' or included files does it? > > It works with all standard documents, although it won't work > for "virtual directories" for example or > for ~xxxxx style usernames. On a recent Apache distribution > (like the one built by -current ports) you just need to add > "CheckSpelling on" to the relevant place/s in access.conf. It seems to me that (absent the requested case-insensitive filesystem) the host is between a rock and a hard place on this. Even if Apache fully processed all URL paths to eliminate "case sensitivity", case sensitivity is still there with ftp'd files. Also, Front Page server modules, SSI include files and maybe cgi could still be affected. If mod_speling additionally allows a single spelling error while accommodating case variations, or even worse, returns a list of close matches, it is a potential security risk (in that it helps give access to URL's that otherwise would have to be guessed exactly). Possibly something useful could be done with mod_rewrite? Overall, maybe the best option is to tell the microSOFT users they have to learn about case, and do whatever possible to ease the transition. For example, translate all files copied from the nT system to lowercase paths - although this assumes lowercase paths in URL's, etc. Perhaps use mod_speling or mod_rewrite for a transitional period. -- Graeme Tait - Echidna To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 18 06:02:08 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA13261 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 06:02:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from magicnet.magicnet.net (magicnet.magicnet.net [204.96.116.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA13256 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 06:02:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bill@bilver.magicnet.net) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by magicnet.magicnet.net (8.8.6/8.8.8) with UUCP id JAA08455 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 09:01:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from bill@localhost) by bilver.magicnet.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA26197 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 08:32:44 -0500 (EST) From: Bill Vermillion Message-Id: <199901181332.IAA26197@bilver.magicnet.net> Subject: Re: FrontPage questions In-Reply-To: from "John A. Hengstler" at "Jan 17, 99 09:07:27 pm" To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 08:32:44 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org John A. Hengstler recently said: > I agree, just remember the cardinal rules gentleman. > Rule #1. The customer is always right. > Rule #2. If the customer is wrong, refer to rule #1. > I don't care for frontpage as well, but since 99% of our customer > base is a microsoft environment, us ***UNIX*** guys have to mix > and match to please our customers! Doesn't it really depend on how many customers, real or pontential, want this. If it's only a few then is it worth allocating your resources to cover them, or point the customer to someone else. Not every customer is worth having. However once you commit to them you have to treat them as above, otherwise they go elsewhere and tell people how bad you are. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 18 08:12:44 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA29170 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 08:12:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA29163; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 08:12:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jmb) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 08:12:43 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199901181612.IAA29163@hub.freebsd.org> From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" To: freebsd-isp Subject: SDL communications WANic 400 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org anyone have a driver for the SDL communications WANic 400/405 ? Rubin Dhillion of SDL Communications says that they do not distribute the DDK to anyone but their OEM's. http://www.enterprisess.com and http://www.tesys.com both sell the cards, presumeably with a driver ;) i am looking for the driver and its source. anyone got it? jmb To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 18 09:23:43 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA07810 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 09:23:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za [146.64.24.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA07802; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 09:23:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhay@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za) Received: (from jhay@localhost) by zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA09804; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 19:23:25 +0200 (SAT) From: John Hay Message-Id: <199901181723.TAA09804@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za> Subject: Re: SDL communications WANic 400 In-Reply-To: <199901181612.IAA29163@hub.freebsd.org> from "Jonathan M. Bresler" at "Jan 18, 99 08:12:43 am" To: jmb@FreeBSD.ORG (Jonathan M. Bresler) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 19:23:25 +0200 (SAT) Cc: freebsd-isp@hub.freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > anyone have a driver for the SDL communications WANic 400/405 ? > > Rubin Dhillion of SDL Communications says that they do not distribute > the DDK to anyone but their OEM's. http://www.enterprisess.com and > http://www.tesys.com both sell the cards, presumeably with a driver ;) > > i am looking for the driver and its source. anyone got it? The sr(4) driver should do it. They have changed the name of the card a few times, but I think it is still basically the same thing. John -- John Hay -- John.Hay@mikom.csir.co.za To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 18 09:25:08 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA08143 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 09:25:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.palnet.com (mail.palnet.com [192.116.16.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA08120 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 09:25:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rjebara@palnet.com) Received: from localhost (rjebara@localhost) by mail.palnet.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA02453; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 19:24:37 +0200 (IST) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 19:24:37 +0200 (IST) From: Rami Abu Jebara To: Tomas TPS Ulej cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Need non-case sensitive fs In-Reply-To: <001c01be42b5$f433c5a0$231da8c3@gericom-tps.tps.sk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I don't think this is a UFS issue .. I see no justifcation to change how ufs functions, to get users to upload pages without worring about how the filename is written (uppercase, and or lower case). also no telling what else will this break .. if this is an important issue, you could educate your customers to check the file names, recomend composer on the low end and say coldfusion on the high end etc ... and users will alway screw up no matter what .. all you can do is minimise the amount of screw ups, and the time you have to spend in support. Good documentation always helps. cheers Rami **************************** Rami Abu Jebara Technical Director Palnet Communications Ltd e-mail : rjebara@palnet.com Tel: ++ 972 2 583 5666 Fax: ++ 972 2 583 6354 w w w . p a l n e t . c o m On Mon, 18 Jan 1999, Tomas TPS Ulej wrote: > We are ISP running FreeBSD as ftp & email server. Now we want move most of > our webs to apache + fp from our WIN NT4 Server. Problem is that our > customers have their pages deisgned for WINDOWS Platform. I need something > like non case sensitive filesystem . I need implementation for ufs ') which > will work as this scheme... > > Funcion Read "DeMOFile.jpg" reads "DEMOFILE.jpg". So implementation like > DOS/WINDOWS OS have. Upcase equal Downcase. Any ideas? > > -- > Tomas TPS Ulej > System Administrator > tps@internet.sk, tu36-ripe > ISP TELENOR INTERNET Ltd., NETLAB+ Network > "Everything on this Earth is at most final beta release..." > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 18 11:20:57 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA23203 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 11:20:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.ahnet.net (mail.ahnet.net [207.213.224.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA23195 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 11:20:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sumbry@ahnet.net) Received: from fink.ahnet.net (fink.ahnet.net [207.213.224.210]) by mail.ahnet.net (8.8.7/8.8.6) with SMTP id LAA06817; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 11:17:39 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 11:17:38 -0800 (PST) From: "Sumbry][" To: Bill Vermillion cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FrontPage questions In-Reply-To: <199901181332.IAA26197@bilver.magicnet.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Doesn't it really depend on how many customers, real or pontential, > want this. If it's only a few then is it worth allocating your > resources to cover them, or point the customer to someone else. > > Not every customer is worth having. However once you commit to > them you have to treat them as above, otherwise they go elsewhere > and tell people how bad you are. Well, unfortunately, if you are web hosting company, then a *large* percentage of your customers are going to want Microsoft Frontpage Extensions support. There's no way that you can web host in this day, and not have FP extensions support. This isn't going to get any better either. W/the impending release of Office 2000, suddenly you going to convert every Microsoft Office user who isn't already using Frontpage into a Frontpage user (Frontpage 2000 will be bundled w/Office 2000). And w/practically anyone who has a computer using Office, well... Frontpage isn't going to go away. ----- Sumbry][ | Affinity Hosting | http://affinity.net | sumbry@affinity.net "Run, run, fast as ya can, ya can't catch me, I'm the Gingerbread Man." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 18 11:39:26 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA26253 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 11:39:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mimas.eclipse.net.uk (mimas.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA26247 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 11:39:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stuart@eclipse.net.uk) Received: from eclipse.net.uk (mimas.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.17]) by mimas.eclipse.net.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA25015; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 19:38:50 GMT Message-ID: <36A38DC9.BA711465@eclipse.net.uk> Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 19:38:49 +0000 From: Stuart Henderson Organization: Eclipse Networking X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.35 i686) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Graeme Tait CC: Karl Pielorz , lists@gal.netlab.sk, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Need non-case sensitive fs References: <001c01be42b5$f433c5a0$231da8c3@gericom-tps.tps.sk> <36A30646.B5C623EB@eclipse.net.uk> <36A31491.9875B056@tdx.co.uk> <36A3206C.BAC24C09@eclipse.net.uk> <36A33253.106C@echidna.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > If mod_speling additionally allows a single spelling > error while accommodating case variations, or even worse, > returns a list of close matches, it is a potential > security risk (in that it helps give access to URL's > that otherwise would have to be guessed exactly). true, so edit mod_speling.c and in the spdist() function do a little commenting out to leave yourself with only the bits that return SP_MISCAPITALIZED and SP_VERYDIFFERENT :-) Stuart To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 18 12:09:06 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA02071 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 12:09:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from calumet.infoteam.com (calumet.infoteam.com [207.2.129.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA02053 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 12:09:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kmartin@calumet.infoteam.com) Received: (from kmartin@localhost) by calumet.infoteam.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA28608; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 15:08:53 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199901182008.PAA28608@calumet.infoteam.com> From: "Kenn Martin" To: "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 15:13:16 -0500 Reply-To: "Kenn Martin" X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Professional (2.01.1600) For Windows 98 (4.10.1998) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: FrontPage questions Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 18 Jan 1999 08:32:44 -0500 (EST), Bill Vermillion wrote: >Doesn't it really depend on how many customers, real or pontential, >want this. If it's only a few then is it worth allocating your >resources to cover them, or point the customer to someone else. For this reason, we are trying to add FP support to Apache 1.3.3 under FreeBSD 2.2.8. We use the apache13-php3 port currently but cannot seem to get the FP support added properly (it appears to build but no FP clients claim that the server doesn't have support). We have also started with the apache13-fp port and tried adding in PHP support. We seem to be getting closer, but aren't there yet. Has anyone been successful in getting Apache built and operational with FP and PHP? kenn To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 18 12:42:19 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA07023 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 12:42:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from kerouac.deepwell.com (deepwell.com [209.63.174.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA07015 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 12:42:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@deepwell.com) Received: (qmail 7634 invoked from network); 18 Jan 1999 21:12:23 -0000 Received: from terry.dcomm.net (HELO terry) (209.63.174.33) by deepwell.com with SMTP; 18 Jan 1999 21:12:23 -0000 Message-Id: <4.1.19990118123806.009214e0@mail1.dcomm.net> X-Sender: freebsd@mail.deepwell.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 12:39:47 -0800 To: "Sumbry][" From: Deepwell Internet Subject: Re: FrontPage questions Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: References: <199901181332.IAA26197@bilver.magicnet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >From time to time we get customers who want to use some Microsoft SQL or access database in a Frontpage Web. Is there ANY way of dealing with this under the Unix FPE, or do I just have to turn all of those customers elsewhere. At 11:17 AM 1/18/99 -0800, you wrote: >> Doesn't it really depend on how many customers, real or pontential, >> want this. If it's only a few then is it worth allocating your >> resources to cover them, or point the customer to someone else. >> >> Not every customer is worth having. However once you commit to >> them you have to treat them as above, otherwise they go elsewhere >> and tell people how bad you are. > >Well, unfortunately, if you are web hosting company, then a >*large* percentage of your customers are going to want Microsoft Frontpage >Extensions support. There's no way that you can web host in this day, and >not have FP extensions support. > >This isn't going to get any better either. W/the impending release of >Office 2000, suddenly you going to convert every Microsoft Office user who >isn't already using Frontpage into a Frontpage user (Frontpage 2000 will be >bundled w/Office 2000). And w/practically anyone who has a computer using >Office, well... Frontpage isn't going to go away. > > >----- >Sumbry][ | Affinity Hosting | http://affinity.net | sumbry@affinity.net >"Run, run, fast as ya can, ya can't catch me, I'm the Gingerbread Man." > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 18 13:44:56 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA16440 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 13:44:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from heaven.gigo.com (ppp.gigo.com [207.173.132.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA16434 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 13:44:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jfesler@gigo.com) From: jfesler@gigo.com Received: from heaven.gigo.com (heaven.gigo.com [207.173.133.57]) by heaven.gigo.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 154C013C6; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 13:44:50 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 13:44:49 -0800 (PST) To: Deepwell Internet Cc: "Sumbry][" , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FrontPage questions In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990118123806.009214e0@mail1.dcomm.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > >From time to time we get customers who want to use some Microsoft SQL or > access database in a Frontpage Web. Is there ANY way of dealing with this > under the Unix FPE, or do I just have to turn all of those customers elsewhere. Either turn'em away, or set up a NT box specifically for those types of customers if you want to keep them around (is there a business case for this, for you?) I know of one ISP near me that did it that way.. Jason Fesler |".. and ten thousand noblemen squatted and Good, Fast, Cheap - | strained, for the King's word, was law." Pick any two. | - SCA Folklore To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 18 13:52:27 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA17767 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 13:52:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.ahnet.net (mail.ahnet.net [207.213.224.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA17761 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 13:52:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sumbry@ahnet.net) Received: from fink.ahnet.net (fink.ahnet.net [207.213.224.210]) by mail.ahnet.net (8.8.7/8.8.6) with SMTP id NAA17491; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 13:52:21 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 13:52:20 -0800 (PST) From: "Sumbry][" To: jfesler@gigo.com cc: Deepwell Internet , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FrontPage questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > >From time to time we get customers who want to use some Microsoft SQL or > > access database in a Frontpage Web. Is there ANY way of dealing with this > > under the Unix FPE, or do I just have to turn all of those customers elsewhere. > > Either turn'em away, or set up a NT box specifically for those types of > customers if you want to keep them around (is there a business case for > this, for you?) I know of one ISP near me that did it that way.. > Because we do NT hosting as well, the above has never been a problem for us, however I *do* believe that you can accomplish the above by using ODBC for Unix. I'm pretty positive that Unix (and hopefully FreeBSD) ODBC drivers exist out there somwhere. If such is the case, then you could setup 1 NT box running MSSQL and Access, then use Unix ODBC drivers to link the two. Of course I've never tried this, anyone else out there maybe has? ----- Sumbry][ | Affinity Hosting | http://affinity.net | sumbry@affinity.net "Run, run, fast as ya can, ya can't catch me, I'm the Gingerbread Man." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 18 14:28:29 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA23880 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 14:28:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from caladan.tdx.co.uk (caladan.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA23870 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 14:28:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) Received: from tdx.co.uk (lorca-tx.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.242]) by caladan.tdx.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id WAA15271; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 22:28:12 GMT Message-ID: <36A3B53A.F585E4DF@tdx.co.uk> Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 22:27:06 +0000 From: Karl Pielorz Organization: TDX - The Digital eXchange X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Sumbry][" CC: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FrontPage questions References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Sumbry][" wrote: > > Because we do NT hosting as well, the above has never been a problem for us, > however I *do* believe that you can accomplish the above by using ODBC for > Unix. I'm pretty positive that Unix (and hopefully FreeBSD) ODBC drivers > exist out there somwhere. If such is the case, then you could setup 1 NT box > running MSSQL and Access, then use Unix ODBC drivers to link the two. > > Of course I've never tried this, anyone else out there maybe has? http://metalab.unc.edu/freetds/faq.html (ODBC drivers to connect FreeBSD to SQL Server :) Don't you just love it when that happens? -Kp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 18 14:55:42 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA26875 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 14:55:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from winter.adsight.com (adsight.com [207.86.2.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA26867 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 14:55:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from webadmin@adsight.com) Received: from winter.adsight.com (winter.adsight.com [207.86.2.34]) by winter.adsight.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA21467 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 17:57:38 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 17:57:38 -0500 (EST) From: Sam Magee To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Need non-case sensitive fs In-Reply-To: <36A33253.106C@echidna.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've used this script, which I hacked from a sample of something in the Camel book to convert webs to mostly case sensitive lower case. It seemed to catch about 99% of the problems I had with sites coming from Macintoshes. Put yourself in the public_html directory, create ../public_new and run this (standard disclaimers of course about this not being suited to any person's needs, etc): #!/usr/bin/perl # Converts Web site to use all lowercase links # Changes file names and anything in HTML TAG (Some exceptions) # Makes web copy from public_html to ../public_new/ (must exist) @inpath = ("./",); @outpath = ("../public_new/",); # index into the patharrays $curlevel = 0; # Start at the top &dodir('.'); sub dodir { local($dir,$nlink) = @_; local($dev,$ino,$mode,$subcount,@filenames); ($dev,$ino,$mode,$nlink) = stat('.') unless $nlink; opendir(DIR,'.') || die "Can't open directory"; @filenames = readdir(DIR); closedir(DIR); if ($nlink == 2) { # no sub-dirs for (@filenames) { next if $_ eq '.'; next if $_ eq '..'; $name = $inpath[$curlevel] . $_; $newname = $outpath[$curlevel] . $_; print "Level=$curlevel ",$name," <--> ",$newname,"\n"; &convert($name,$newname); } } else { $subcount = $nlink - 2; for (@filenames) { next if $_ eq '.'; next if $_ eq '..'; $name = $inpath[$curlevel] . $_; $newname = $outpath[$curlevel] . $_; print "Level=$curlevel ",$name," <--> ",$newname,"\n"; &convert($name,$newname); next if $subcount <= 0; ($dev,$ino,$mode,$nlink) = lstat($_); next unless -d _; chdir $_ or die "Can't cd to $name"; ++$curlevel; $outpath[$curlevel] = "../" . $outpath[$curlevel - 1] . $_ . "/"; $inpath[$curlevel] = "../" . $inpath[$curlevel - 1] . $_ . "/"; &dodir($name,$nlink); chdir '..'; --$curlevel; --$subcount; } } } # Called by covert($name,$newname) sub convert { ($name,$newname) = @_; $newname = &lcs($newname); if (-d $name) { system("mkdir $newname"); } elsif (-B $name) { system("cp $name $newname"); } else { open (INFILE,$name) || die "Can't open $name"; open (OUTFILE,">$newname") || die "Can't create $newname"; while () { $instr = $_; $instr=~s/(<[^>]*)/&lcs($1)/eg; print OUTFILE $instr; } close(OUTFILE); close(INFILE); } } sub lcs { $string=@_[0]; unless (/INPUT/i || /MAP/i || /META/i) { $string=~tr/A-Z/a-z/; } return($string); } To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 18 15:08:23 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA28333 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 15:08:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.trace.net.tw (mail.trace.net.tw [202.80.128.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA28328 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 15:08:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ronald@mail.trace.net.tw) X-Comments: ****** Message sent through an Trace account ****** X-http: ****** http://www.trace.com.tw ****** Received: from localhost (ronald@localhost) by mail.trace.net.tw (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id HAA22354; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 07:07:22 +0800 Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 07:07:22 +0800 (CST) From: Ronald Wiplinger To: Bill Vermillion cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FrontPage questions In-Reply-To: <199901181332.IAA26197@bilver.magicnet.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 18 Jan 1999, Bill Vermillion wrote: > John A. Hengstler recently said: > > I agree, just remember the cardinal rules gentleman. > > > Rule #1. The customer is always right. > > Rule #2. If the customer is wrong, refer to rule #1. > > > I don't care for frontpage as well, but since 99% of our customer > > base is a microsoft environment, us ***UNIX*** guys have to mix > > and match to please our customers! > > Doesn't it really depend on how many customers, real or pontential, > want this. If it's only a few then is it worth allocating your > resources to cover them, or point the customer to someone else. > > Not every customer is worth having. However once you commit to > them you have to treat them as above, otherwise they go elsewhere > and tell people how bad you are. If the customer use frontpage just to create home pages, than it does not bother, but as soon he starts to program than it bothers. So far I had only one customer who really needed that, and this one asked everyday another "feature", so that I almost worked only for him to program him this parts in php3. After a while I refered him to competitors, ... Now I have a frontpage free system again and can upgrade apache secure again. No other customer of my 5400 need it now. However we will setup a slow frontpage server with less RAM, and we charge for usage this one 20% higher! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 18 15:34:26 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA01618 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 15:34:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from netdev.comsys.com (netdev.comsys.com [192.94.236.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA01613 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 15:34:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from alex@comsys.com) Received: from comsys.com ([204.202.49.60]) by netdev.comsys.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA06234; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 16:32:51 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <36A3C49E.4FC8C15A@comsys.com> Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 15:32:46 -0800 From: alex X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ronald Wiplinger CC: Bill Vermillion , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FrontPage questions References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org if I understand what you are saying.. ApacheFP works fine. ApacheFP + PHP is bother, and going from ApacheFP + PHP to Apache FP + PHP + SSL is impossible? Is that everyone's experience? Ronald Wiplinger wrote: > > On Mon, 18 Jan 1999, Bill Vermillion wrote: > > > John A. Hengstler recently said: > > > I agree, just remember the cardinal rules gentleman. > > > > > Rule #1. The customer is always right. > > > Rule #2. If the customer is wrong, refer to rule #1. > > > > > I don't care for frontpage as well, but since 99% of our customer > > > base is a microsoft environment, us ***UNIX*** guys have to mix > > > and match to please our customers! > > > > Doesn't it really depend on how many customers, real or pontential, > > want this. If it's only a few then is it worth allocating your > > resources to cover them, or point the customer to someone else. > > > > Not every customer is worth having. However once you commit to > > them you have to treat them as above, otherwise they go elsewhere > > and tell people how bad you are. > > If the customer use frontpage just to create home pages, than it does not > bother, but as soon he starts to program than it bothers. So far I had > only one customer who really needed that, and this one asked everyday > another "feature", so that I almost worked only for him to program him > this parts in php3. After a while I refered him to competitors, ... > > Now I have a frontpage free system again and can upgrade apache secure > again. No other customer of my 5400 need it now. However we will setup a > slow frontpage server with less RAM, and we charge for usage this one 20% > higher! > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 18 16:03:39 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA04935 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 16:03:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from winter.adsight.com (adsight.com [207.86.2.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA04924 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 16:03:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from webadmin@adsight.com) Received: from winter.adsight.com (winter.adsight.com [207.86.2.34]) by winter.adsight.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id TAA21972 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 19:05:33 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 19:05:33 -0500 (EST) From: Sam Magee To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FrontPage questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 19 Jan 1999, Ronald Wiplinger wrote: > > > On Mon, 18 Jan 1999, Bill Vermillion wrote: > > > John A. Hengstler recently said: > > > I agree, just remember the cardinal rules gentleman. > > > > > Rule #1. The customer is always right. > > > Rule #2. If the customer is wrong, refer to rule #1. [snip] Wasn't the original question to this thread related to why Apache+FP was having child processes exit on Signal 11? Does anyone have any idea why this happens? I see it occaisionally on my 2.8.8-Stable system with Apache 1.3.3+FP but it never seems to cause any problems, to my knowledge. -- Sam To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 18 17:39:12 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA18738 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 17:39:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.westbend.net (ns1.westbend.net [156.46.203.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA18731 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 17:39:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hetzels@westbend.net) Received: from admin (admin.westbend.net [156.46.203.13]) by mail.westbend.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA14874; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 19:38:51 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from hetzels@westbend.net) Message-ID: <016301be434c$786c6de0$0dcb2e9c@westbend.net> From: "Scot W. Hetzel" To: "bahwi" Cc: References: Subject: Re: FrontPage questions Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 19:38:50 -0600 Organization: West Bend Internet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.1012.1001 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.1012.1001 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org From: bahwi > Hello, we are having a problem with frontpage from the apache13-fp port. > I was hoping someone could help. When frontpage code is called it > gives a segmentation fault. > Which FP code (fpexe)? > httpd: child pid 1554 exit signal Segmentation on fault (11) > > Can anyone help? Apache is 1.3.3 on a 2.2.6-STABLE machine from the > apache13-fp port. Thanks. Please reply privately. > When I had first created this port and used the suexec program (no modifications), then Segmentation faults would occure. Because suexec could not obtain any files system stats on the directory where fpexe is located. Are you using suexec, and was it compiled and installed by the Apache13-FP port? If it wasn't you need to re-compile the Apache13-FP port and define at least SUEXEC. make configure/install -DSUEXE [-DHTTPD_USER=] Scot To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 18 18:34:41 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA25775 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 18:34:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from homer.excitech.com.au (homer.excitech.com.au [203.35.80.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA25756 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 18:34:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jordan@excitech.com.au) Received: from frederick ([203.35.191.73]) by homer.excitech.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA15790; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 13:38:40 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <000501be4354$3926a3a0$0a00a8c0@frederick> From: "Jordan Race" To: Cc: Subject: PPP Dialin to FreeBSD Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 13:34:16 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, We have 4 dial in lines to a FreeBSD3.0-Release box. Each line functions correctly with terminal dial in and PPP (Using AutoPPP and mgetty). Windows95 clients dial in and are assigned the correct ip address and routes are set up correctly on the client side. The server is using proxyarp. When we dial in using a Mac or Linux PPP the client computer is assigned the correct IP address but it has no access to the network. The client computer can ping its newly assigned IP but cannot ping the server IP. The problem does not occur when using a Windows client. Is anyone aware of anything that might cause this? Regards, Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 18 18:47:34 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA27464 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 18:47:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ethel.basspro.com (ethel.basspro.com [12.14.224.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA27457 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 18:47:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from troyk@basspro.com) Received: from gateway.basspro.com by ethel.basspro.com; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/29Jan96-0343PM) id AA17420; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 20:50:41 -0600 Message-Id: <36A3F1C0.B2FCF22B@basspro.com> Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 20:45:20 -0600 From: Troy Kittrell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Squid Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I need to (ASAP, as usual) fire up a proxy server. I would prefer a Un*x based solution rather that MS Proxy server, but need to plan for the future. Squid seems to be the (proxy) drug of choice. That future holds several hundred users that I'd much rather manage the username/passwd from a centralized location (LDAP!). I've gleaned the docs for Squid and can find nothing that indicates that users can be authenticated from an LDAP server. LDAP seems to be the only choice I could try to use that all of our other corporate services (AS/400, Notes, NT Domains, Netware) can share. The purpose of the proxy server is not actually to cache and conserve bandwidth, but as a means to limit access from our corporate network to the internet. So far this has been accomplished quite well by a POS/486 runnning FreeBsd/ipfw/natd. I'm tired of adding rules to rc.firewall plus NT Domains w/DHCP doesn't actually limit people. All they have to do is go to a machine that gets an (ipfw) allowed address from DHCP and they're on. Hints? Clues? Experiences? TIA!!! -- Troy Kittrell troyk@basspro.com Internet Systems Coordinator Bass Pro Outdoors Online To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 18 19:07:09 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA00126 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 19:07:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from velvet.sensation.net.au (serial0-velvet.Brunswick.sensation.net.au [203.20.114.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA00106 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 19:07:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rowan@sensation.net.au) Received: from localhost (rowan@localhost) by velvet.sensation.net.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA20669; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 14:06:44 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from rowan@sensation.net.au) X-Authentication-Warning: velvet.sensation.net.au: rowan owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 14:06:42 +1100 (EST) From: Rowan Crowe To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG cc: aussie-isp@aussie.net Subject: Apache child runaway process? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all, (note, may be FreeBSD specific) PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND 10506 nobody 105 0 492K 124K RUN 474:34 58.98% 58.98% httpd Has anyone seen anything like this before? I seem to get this occasionally, with a corresponding set of FIN_WAIT_2 connections showing in netstat. Note that it's occupying around 60% CPU. Apache 1.2.4, FreeBSD 2.2.5-R Also happens on Apache 1.2b8, FreeBSD 2.2.2-R TIA... Cheers. -- Rowan Crowe Sensation Internet Services, Melbourne Aust fidonet: 3:635/728 +61-3-9388-9260 http://www.rowan.sensation.net.au/ http://www.sensation.net.au/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 18 20:14:44 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA07066 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 20:14:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from xwin.nmhtech.com (xwin.nmhtech.com [208.138.46.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA07054 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 20:14:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nicole@xwin.nmhtech.com) Received: (from nicole@localhost) by xwin.nmhtech.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id UAA00679; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 20:14:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nicole) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.2 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <36A3F1C0.B2FCF22B@basspro.com> Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 20:14:34 -0800 (PST) From: Nicole Harrington To: Troy Kittrell Subject: RE: Squid Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id UAA07056 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 19-Jan-99 My Secret Spies Reported That Troy Kittrell wrote: > I need to (ASAP, as usual) fire up a proxy server. I would prefer a > Un*x based solution rather that MS Proxy server, but need to plan for > the future. Squid seems to be the (proxy) drug of choice. That future > holds several hundred users that I'd much rather manage the > username/passwd from a centralized location (LDAP!). > I've gleaned the docs for Squid and can find nothing that indicates > that users can be authenticated from an LDAP server. LDAP seems to be > the only choice I could try to use that all of our other corporate > services (AS/400, Notes, NT Domains, Netware) can share. > The purpose of the proxy server is not actually to cache and conserve > bandwidth, but as a means to limit access from our corporate network to > the internet. So far this has been accomplished quite well by a POS/486 > runnning FreeBsd/ipfw/natd. I'm tired of adding rules to rc.firewall > plus NT Domains w/DHCP doesn't actually limit people. All they have to > do is go to a machine that gets an (ipfw) allowed address from DHCP and > they're on. > > Hints? Clues? Experiences? > Why would you want to use LDAP? Usually you filter by Ip address range. Seems odd having to enter a password to browse the web. Just my .02c Nicole > TIA!!! > -- > > Troy Kittrell > troyk@basspro.com > Internet Systems Coordinator > Bass Pro Outdoors Online > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message |\ __ /| (`\ | o_o |__ ) ) // \\ nicole@nmhtech.com | http://www.webweaver.net/ webmistress@dangermouse.org | http://www.dangermouse.org -------------------------(((---(((----------------------- - Powered by Coka Cola and FreeBSD - - Stong enough for a man - But made for a Woman - - I'm not ADD - I'm just MultiThreaded - - Microsoft: What bug would you like today? - ---------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 18 20:34:09 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA10064 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 20:34:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from postal.c-zone.net (postal.c-zone.net [207.211.22.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA10058 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 20:34:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from medlir@c-zone.net) Received: from localhost (medlir@localhost) by postal.c-zone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id UAA02276; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 20:33:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from medlir@c-zone.net) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 20:33:09 -0800 (PST) From: Dan Babb To: jfesler@gigo.com cc: Deepwell Internet , "Sumbry][" , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FrontPage questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org dan network administrator : computer zone internet hell is the possibility of sanity To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 18 20:34:55 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA10109 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 20:34:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from postal.c-zone.net (postal.c-zone.net [207.211.22.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA10104 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 20:34:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from medlir@c-zone.net) Received: from localhost (medlir@localhost) by postal.c-zone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id UAA02630; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 20:34:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from medlir@c-zone.net) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 20:34:38 -0800 (PST) From: Dan Babb To: jfesler@gigo.com cc: Deepwell Internet , "Sumbry][" , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FrontPage questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org damn it .. ignore that previous. i agree with jason, we setup a NT box just for FP. i got tired of trying to get FP to work with APACHE. i was waiting for a port, or someone from the freebsd team to do it. i gave up and installed NT. we have had a lot of users ask for it now, so its nice to have. dan network administrator : computer zone internet hell is the possibility of sanity > > Either turn'em away, or set up a NT box specifically for those types of > customers if you want to keep them around (is there a business case for > this, for you?) I know of one ISP near me that did it that way.. > > Jason Fesler |".. and ten thousand noblemen squatted and > Good, Fast, Cheap - | strained, for the King's word, was law." > Pick any two. | - SCA Folklore > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 18 21:10:38 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA15152 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 21:10:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.island.net.au (mail.island.net.au [203.102.137.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA15147 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 21:10:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hugh@island.net.au) Received: from solo (solo.island.net.au [203.28.142.8]) by mail.island.net.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA19977 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 16:10:17 +1100 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990119160942.0088f7b0@mail.island.net.au> X-Sender: hugh@mail.island.net.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 16:09:42 +1100 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: Hugh Blandford Subject: RE: APC Smart UPS Cable (anyone got time remaining working?) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, on the upsd point has anyone got a configuration file setup so that the box will powerdown with 5 or whatever minutes are remaining. Secondly, anyone got a system working with a shareups? Thanks, Hugh Blandford At 23:15 2/01/99 -0700, you wrote: >> >> Does anybody know the computer interface cable pinouts for the APC >> Smart UPS series? I am having trouble getting information on support >> information for Unix type OSs and the cable that they are selling for >> about $40.00 oly works for other OSs! it this true. > >This is not true. I'm using the supplied cable on FreeBSD *right now* >with upsd. > > > >Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 18 23:32:04 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA29021 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 23:32:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from xwin.nmhtech.com (xwin.nmhtech.com [208.138.46.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA29009 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 23:32:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nicole@xwin.nmhtech.com) Received: (from nicole@localhost) by xwin.nmhtech.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id XAA01216; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 23:31:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nicole) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.2 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 23:31:54 -0800 (PST) From: Nicole Harrington To: Troy Kittrell Subject: RE: Squid -2 Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id XAA29013 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 19-Jan-99 My Secret Spies Reported That Nicole Harrington wrote: > > On 19-Jan-99 My Secret Spies Reported That Troy Kittrell wrote: >> I need to (ASAP, as usual) fire up a proxy server. I would prefer a >> Un*x based solution rather that MS Proxy server, but need to plan for >> the future. Squid seems to be the (proxy) drug of choice. That future >> holds several hundred users that I'd much rather manage the >> username/passwd from a centralized location (LDAP!). >> I've gleaned the docs for Squid and can find nothing that indicates >> that users can be authenticated from an LDAP server. LDAP seems to be >> the only choice I could try to use that all of our other corporate >> services (AS/400, Notes, NT Domains, Netware) can share. >> The purpose of the proxy server is not actually to cache and conserve >> bandwidth, but as a means to limit access from our corporate network to >> the internet. So far this has been accomplished quite well by a POS/486 >> runnning FreeBsd/ipfw/natd. I'm tired of adding rules to rc.firewall >> plus NT Domains w/DHCP doesn't actually limit people. All they have to >> do is go to a machine that gets an (ipfw) allowed address from DHCP and >> they're on. >> >> Hints? Clues? Experiences? >> > > > Why would you want to use LDAP? > Usually you filter by Ip address range. > Seems odd having to enter a password to browse the web. > > Just my .02c > > Nicole > Actually.. This is what comes from not reading a post fully. >:< Being of more sound mind.. http://squid.nlanr.net/Squid/FAQ/FAQ-10.html States: 10.2 How do I block specific users or groups from accessing my cache? Proxy Authentication Another option is to use proxy-authentication. 1.Recompile squid with -DUSE_PROXY_AUTH=1. Uncomment USE_PROXY_AUTH in src/Makefile. make clean vi src/Makefile make make install 2.Configure proxy authentication in squid.conf. proxy_auth /usr/local/squid/etc/passwd passwd is an apache-style file of passwords for authenticated proxy access Looks like username:password, with the password being standard crypt() format. 3.Create the passwd file and give the passwords to your users. You can use apache's htpasswd program to generate and maintain the passwd file. The usernames in the passwd file do not need to correspond to system user names. You may give many people the same username and password combination to access your cache. There that's better... Nicole |\ __ /| (`\ | o_o |__ ) ) // \\ nicole@nmhtech.com | http://www.webweaver.net/ webmistress@dangermouse.org | http://www.dangermouse.org -------------------------(((---(((----------------------- - Powered by Coka Cola and FreeBSD - - Stong enough for a man - But made for a Woman - - I'm not ADD - I'm just MultiThreaded - - Microsoft: What bug would you like today? - ---------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jan 19 02:57:27 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA19988 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 02:57:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mimas.eclipse.net.uk (mimas.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA19979 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 02:57:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stuart@eclipse.net.uk) Received: from eclipse.net.uk (mimas.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.17]) by mimas.eclipse.net.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA13885; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 10:56:37 GMT Message-ID: <36A464DE.A97C2F67@eclipse.net.uk> Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 10:56:31 +0000 From: Stuart Henderson Organization: Eclipse Networking X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.35 i686) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rowan Crowe CC: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, aussie-isp@aussie.net Subject: Re: Apache child runaway process? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Rowan Crowe wrote: > > Apache 1.2.4, FreeBSD 2.2.5-R > Also happens on Apache 1.2b8, FreeBSD 2.2.2-R Try some newer versions - Apache recommend all users of 1.2x upgrade to 1.34, and the FreeBSD versions you are using are both quite old and have known security issues (I think you should probably upgrade to 2.28 - nb the naming of disk slices changed somewhere around 2.26 so please read the release notes for the versions in between). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jan 19 05:37:14 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA06374 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 05:37:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ethel.basspro.com (ethel.basspro.com [12.14.224.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA06369 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 05:37:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from troyk@basspro.com) Received: from gateway.basspro.com by ethel.basspro.com; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/29Jan96-0343PM) id AA09966; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 07:40:04 -0600 Message-Id: <36A489F1.30CE5A96@basspro.com> Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 07:34:41 -0600 From: Troy Kittrell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (WinNT; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Nicole Harrington Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Squid -2 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Nicole Harrington wrote: > > {snip snip...} > 3.Create the passwd file and give the passwords to your users. You can use > apache's htpasswd program to generate and maintain the passwd file. The > usernames in the passwd file do not need to correspond to > system user names. You may give many people the same username and > password combination to access your cache. > > There that's better... > > Nicole > > > |\ __ /| (`\ > | o_o |__ ) ) > // \\ > nicole@nmhtech.com | http://www.webweaver.net/ > webmistress@dangermouse.org | http://www.dangermouse.org > -------------------------(((---(((----------------------- > > - Powered by Coka Cola and FreeBSD - > - Stong enough for a man - But made for a Woman - > > - I'm not ADD - I'm just MultiThreaded - > - Microsoft: What bug would you like today? - > ---------------------------------------------------------- Sure...very easy...and I've already looked at ways to create this from a Domino/LDAP server. But I would *rather* authenticate directly from the source of the user lists. (and in response to your previous message) We're blocking by IP range now. We're also using DHCP company-wide. When someone is authorized to access the 'net, we nab the MAC address of their machine, poke that into DHCP and assign it a specific IP address that is already allowed through the ipfw/natd gateway. That works great for our main campus, but our remote sites have only a single class C range. We'd either have to assign a second class C, reserved strictly for this DHCP assignment to allow access, or add the IP addresses one by one to ipfw. This doesn't really work either since the remote sites authenticate at the desktop in an NT Domain, which allows the user to log into any machine. The number of remote sites/systems isn't so great right now that it would be unmanageable, but our expansion plans for remote sites over just the next three years would make it a nightmare. -- Troy Kittrell troyk@basspro.com Internet Systems Coordinator Bass Pro Outdoors Online To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jan 19 06:47:18 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA24666 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 06:47:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ts.shopnet.com (ts.shopnet.com [208.131.136.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA24661 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 06:47:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from deichert@wildponies.org) Received: (from deichert@localhost) by ts.shopnet.com (8.8.4/8.6.12) id HAA05468; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 07:49:09 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 07:49:09 -0700 (MST) From: Diana Eichert X-Sender: deichert@ts.shopnet.com To: Nicole Harrington cc: Troy Kittrell , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Squid In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Actually having to authenticate is the only way a lot of corporate users will allow web access. When you have systems that are in a public area it's easier to control at the internet connection. diana On Mon, 18 Jan 1999, Nicole Harrington wrote: > > On 19-Jan-99 My Secret Spies Reported That Troy Kittrell wrote: > > the future. Squid seems to be the (proxy) drug of choice. That future > > holds several hundred users that I'd much rather manage the > > username/passwd from a centralized location (LDAP!). > > I've gleaned the docs for Squid and can find nothing that indicates > > that users can be authenticated from an LDAP server. LDAP seems to be > > the only choice I could try to use that all of our other corporate > > services (AS/400, Notes, NT Domains, Netware) can share. > > The purpose of the proxy server is not actually to cache and conserve > > bandwidth, but as a means to limit access from our corporate network to > > the internet. So far this has been accomplished quite well by a POS/486 > > > Why would you want to use LDAP? > Usually you filter by Ip address range. > Seems odd having to enter a password to browse the web. > > Just my .02c > > Nicole Diana Eichert IT Manager McKinley Paper Company deeiche@mckinleypaper.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jan 19 06:51:34 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA25533 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 06:51:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from server.noc.demon.net (server.noc.demon.net [193.195.224.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA25528 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 06:51:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fanf@demon.net) Received: by server.noc.demon.net; id OAA13139; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 14:51:25 GMT Received: from fanf.noc.demon.net(195.11.55.83) by inside.noc.demon.net via smap (3.2) id xmac13120; Tue, 19 Jan 99 14:51:15 GMT Received: from fanf by fanf.noc.demon.net with local (Exim 1.73 #2) id 102cUs-00022z-00; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 14:51:14 +0000 To: isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: Tony Finch Subject: Re: Apache child runaway process? Newsgroups: chiark.mail.freebsd.isp In-Reply-To: Organization: Deliberate Obfuscation To Amuse Tony Message-Id: Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 14:51:14 +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Rowan Crowe wrote: > >(note, may be FreeBSD specific) > > PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND >10506 nobody 105 0 492K 124K RUN 474:34 58.98% 58.98% httpd > >Has anyone seen anything like this before? I seem to get this >occasionally, with a corresponding set of FIN_WAIT_2 connections showing >in netstat. > >Note that it's occupying around 60% CPU. >Apache 1.2.4, FreeBSD 2.2.5-R >Also happens on Apache 1.2b8, FreeBSD 2.2.2-R We have seen this with _really_ ancient versions of Apache, and it seems to be related to CGIs and connections that are failing to deliver data when expected to. Does the Apache process come back to life when you kill -ALRM it? I would also recommend upgrading to Apache 1.3.4: version 1.2 is no longer supported, and the Apache Group wish to kill it off. Tony. -- f.a.n.finch dot@dotat.at fanf@demon.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jan 19 06:59:56 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA29725 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 06:59:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from server.noc.demon.net (server.noc.demon.net [193.195.224.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA29703 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 06:59:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fanf@demon.net) Received: by server.noc.demon.net; id OAA14010; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 14:59:37 GMT Received: from fanf.noc.demon.net(195.11.55.83) by inside.noc.demon.net via smap (3.2) id xma013999; Tue, 19 Jan 99 14:59:24 GMT Received: from fanf by fanf.noc.demon.net with local (Exim 1.73 #2) id 102ccl-00023f-00; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 14:59:23 +0000 To: isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: Tony Finch Subject: Re: Squid -2 Newsgroups: chiark.mail.freebsd.isp In-Reply-To: <36A489F1.30CE5A96@basspro.com> Organization: Deliberate Obfuscation To Amuse Tony References: Message-Id: Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 14:59:23 +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Troy Kittrell wrote: > >Sure...very easy...and I've already looked at ways to create this from >a Domino/LDAP server. But I would *rather* authenticate directly from >the source of the user lists. In addition to password file authentication, Squid can do proxy authentication via a collection of helper processes. You could write a simple one in perl, say, to do the required LDAP lookup. The most useful documentation on Squid's detailed capabilities is the comments in the configuration file, built from src/cf.data.pre. This includes: authenticate_program Specify the command for the external authenticator. Such a program reads a line containing "username password" and replies "OK" or "ERR" in an endless loop. If you use an authenticator, make sure you have 1 acl of type proxy_auth. By default, the authenticator_program is not used. If you want to use the traditional proxy authentication, jump over to the ../auth_modules/NCSA directory and type: % make % make install Then, set this line to something like authenticate_program @DEFAULT_PREFIX@/bin/ncsa_auth @DEFAULT_PREFIX@/etc/passwd authenticate_children The number of authenticator processes to spawn (default 5). If you start too few Squid will have to wait for them to process a backlog of usercode/password verifications, slowing it down. When password verifications are done via a (slow) network you are likely to need lots of authenticator processes. authenticate_ttl The time a checked username/password combination remains cached (default 3600). If a wrong password is given for a cached user, the user gets removed from the username/password cache forcing a revalidation. Tony. -- f.a.n.finch dot@dotat.at fanf@demon.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jan 19 07:05:51 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA08302 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 07:05:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ts.shopnet.com (ts.shopnet.com [208.131.136.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA08295 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 07:05:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from deichert@wildponies.org) Received: (from deichert@localhost) by ts.shopnet.com (8.8.4/8.6.12) id IAA05629; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 08:08:02 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 08:08:00 -0700 (MST) From: Diana Eichert X-Sender: deichert@ts.shopnet.com To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: LDAP authication for squid In-Reply-To: <199901162121.WAA21306@office.omc.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I did a search for "squid proxy LDAP" on yahoo, this URL came up. http://www.wwa.com/~donley/squid.html It's not for the current squid version but it should give you a look in the right direction. There are also links to LDAP authentication support for Cyrus IMAP, Apache and Perl there. diana Diana Eichert IT Manager McKinley Paper Company deeiche@mckinleypaper.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jan 19 07:44:31 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA28702 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 07:44:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za [146.64.24.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA28618 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 07:44:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhay@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za) Received: (from jhay@localhost) by zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA19050; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 17:42:58 +0200 (SAT) From: John Hay Message-Id: <199901191542.RAA19050@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za> Subject: Re: Squid -2 In-Reply-To: <36A489F1.30CE5A96@basspro.com> from Troy Kittrell at "Jan 19, 99 07:34:41 am" To: troyk@basspro.com (Troy Kittrell) Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 17:42:58 +0200 (SAT) Cc: nicole@nmhtech.com, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Sure...very easy...and I've already looked at ways to create this from > a Domino/LDAP server. But I would *rather* authenticate directly from > the source of the user lists. Look in chapter 19.6 of the squid faq or search through their mailing lists. John -- John Hay -- John.Hay@mikom.csir.co.za To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jan 19 13:08:07 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA07253 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 13:08:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from amber.eaznet.com (amber.eaznet.com [216.19.20.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA07241 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 13:08:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eddie@eaznet.com) Received: from eaznet.com (admin.eaznet.com [216.19.20.16]) by amber.eaznet.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA14115; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 14:08:29 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <36A4F41C.1BD24FFC@eaznet.com> Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 14:07:41 -0700 From: Eddie - EAZNet Internet Services Reply-To: eddie@eaznet.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: chaz@eaznet.com, isp@FreeBSD.ORG, members@ispc.org Subject: OFF TOPIC: An interesting MS Story Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thought you might enjoy this: http://www.netcraft.com.au/geoffrey/toshiba.html Eddie Fry EAZNet Internet Services To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jan 19 18:43:26 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA15221 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 18:43:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ethel.basspro.com (ethel.basspro.com [12.14.224.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA15216 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 18:43:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from troyk@basspro.com) Received: from [192.168.5.202] by ethel.basspro.com; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/29Jan96-0343PM) id AA11247; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 20:45:54 -0600 Message-Id: <36A54218.A6186CC@basspro.com> Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 20:40:24 -0600 From: Troy Kittrell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: John Hay Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Squid -2 References: <199901191542.RAA19050@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ...dat's da ticket! Apparently the searches I was using from the Squid home page don't have this indexed. Also, I've been toying with a perl script as the authentication program and all seems well so far. Thanks to all! John Hay wrote: > > > > > Sure...very easy...and I've already looked at ways to create this from > > a Domino/LDAP server. But I would *rather* authenticate directly from > > the source of the user lists. > > Look in chapter 19.6 of the squid faq or search through their mailing > lists. > > John > -- > John Hay -- John.Hay@mikom.csir.co.za -- Troy Kittrell troyk@basspro.com Internet Systems Coordinator Bass Pro Outdoors Online To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jan 19 20:34:50 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA27754 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 20:34:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Radford.i-Plus.net (radford.i-plus.net [209.100.20.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA27744 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 20:34:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rewt@i-Plus.net) Received: from Radford.i-Plus.net (rewt@www.i-plus.net [209.100.20.4]) by Radford.i-Plus.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA12700; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 23:34:19 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 23:34:18 -0500 (EST) From: Troy Settle To: Tomas TPS Ulej cc: "(ML) FreeBSD ISP" Subject: Re: Need non-case sensitive fs In-Reply-To: <001c01be42b5$f433c5a0$231da8c3@gericom-tps.tps.sk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 18 Jan 1999, Tomas TPS Ulej wrote: > We are ISP running FreeBSD as ftp & email server. Now we want move most of > our webs to apache + fp from our WIN NT4 Server. Problem is that our > customers have their pages deisgned for WINDOWS Platform. I need something > like non case sensitive filesystem . I need implementation for ufs ') which > will work as this scheme... > > Funcion Read "DeMOFile.jpg" reads "DEMOFILE.jpg". So implementation like > DOS/WINDOWS OS have. Upcase equal Downcase. Any ideas? > Ok, you say that you currently have your files on an NT server, and that you're going to be moving them to FreeBSD running Apache + FrontPage? The solution is easy, and doesn't require a case-insensitive filesystem, it doesn't require any fancy scripting, and it doesn't require any additional apache modules. Use the Frontpage explorer to publish/import your current webs to the new server. As it's doing so, it will make sure that all links/filenames match up (not always pretty, but at least your HTML won't break). Trust me on this, I've done it many times. -- Troy Settle Network Administrator, iPlus Internet Services http://www.i-Plus.net PS: what's with the cross-posting? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jan 19 20:58:32 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA00795 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 20:58:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ethel.basspro.com (ethel.basspro.com [12.14.224.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA00777 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 20:58:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from troyk@basspro.com) Received: from [192.168.5.202] by ethel.basspro.com; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/29Jan96-0343PM) id AA16659; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 23:01:18 -0600 Message-Id: <36A561D4.CCF9F9C7@basspro.com> Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 22:55:48 -0600 From: Troy Kittrell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Jamie Cameron Subject: Bind 8/Webmin References: <199901200409.MAA25206@acacia.mediahub.com.sg> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I had recently suggested to everyone that they look at webmin (www.webmin.com) as a tool to administer all the FreeBSD boxes that seem to pop up once we find out how useful FreeBSD is. Well, I found an interesting anomoly tonight with webmin and Bind 8 that Jamie solved with no problem. I was adding, manually, a line to the options section of /etc/named.conf: listen-on {10.1.1.53}; ..which bind 8.1.2 (named) allows, but is not precisely accurate. The line should read listen-on {10.1.1.53;}; When I added this line by hand, webmin would thereafter report that no zones had been defined. After adding the additional semi-colon ( as Jamie suggested) webmin operated as expected. The Bind 8.1.2 documention that I have that directly addresses adding this option doesn't say that a semi-colon is required after *any* IP address when using this option, but it does state it is required after any address when using multiple listen-to addresses. webmin follows this rule with one to many addresses in this option. -- Troy Kittrell troyk@basspro.com Internet Systems Coordinator Bass Pro Outdoors Online To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jan 20 05:39:14 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA00606 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 05:39:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from albion.albion.pl ([195.205.27.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA00593 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 05:39:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luk@albion.albion.pl) Received: from localhost (luk@localhost) by albion.albion.pl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA00348 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 14:37:48 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from luk@albion.albion.pl) Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 14:37:48 +0100 (CET) From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?=A3ukasz_Misiuda?= To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: fast ethernet Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id FAA00602 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello! We've just bought a fast ethernet card: GF100TXR that claims is RTL 8139 and i get such thing during the system start: pci0:20: vendor=0x10ec, device=0x8139, class=network (ethernet) int a irq 10 [no driver assigned] how should i make FreeBSD to see it propely? Thanks £ukasz To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jan 20 06:16:16 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA03816 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 06:16:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from caladan.tdx.co.uk (caladan.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA03806 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 06:16:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) Received: from tdx.co.uk (lorca-tx.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.242]) by caladan.tdx.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA66733; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 14:14:26 GMT Message-ID: <36A5E4C2.8E238778@tdx.co.uk> Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 14:14:26 +0000 From: Karl Pielorz Organization: TDX - The Digital eXchange X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=A3ukasz?= Misiuda CC: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: fast ethernet References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org £ukasz Misiuda wrote: > > Hello! > > We've just bought a fast ethernet card: > > GF100TXR > > that claims is RTL 8139 > > and i get such thing during the system start: > > pci0:20: vendor=0x10ec, device=0x8139, class=network (ethernet) int a irq 10 > [no driver assigned] > > how should i make FreeBSD to see it propely? Is it, or it's chipset in the supported hardware list? - The above means the PCI subsystem found the card, but that FreeBSD doesn't know how to handle it... (This could be because it's driver isn't in the running kernel - or that it's not supported yet). Have a look around www.freebsd.org, or the release notes for the version of FreeBSD your running (you don't say which version) to see if that card/chipset is supported... -Kp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jan 20 07:40:57 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA12493 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 07:40:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mimas.eclipse.net.uk (mimas.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA12487 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 07:40:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stuart@eclipse.net.uk) Received: from eclipse.net.uk (mimas.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.17]) by mimas.eclipse.net.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA24954; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 15:38:49 GMT Message-ID: <36A5F883.4122268E@eclipse.net.uk> Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 15:38:43 +0000 From: Stuart Henderson Organization: Eclipse Networking X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.35 i686) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "£ukasz Misiuda" CC: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: fast ethernet References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > that claims is RTL 8139 > how should i make FreeBSD to see it propely? Not supported in base distribution, but you can try Bill Paul's driver, http://www.freebsd.org/~wpaul/RealTek HTH Stuart To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jan 20 18:11:40 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA21229 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 18:11:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.netdirect.net (mail.netdirect.net [204.120.164.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA21211 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 18:11:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from angrick@netdirect.net) Received: from masterx (p15-term10-indy.netdirect.net [204.248.210.244]) by mail.netdirect.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id VAA23115 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 21:11:16 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990120205606.00b5a600@netdirect.net> X-Sender: angrick@netdirect.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 20:56:06 -0500 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: Andrew Angrick Subject: more frontpage.... In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all... I just tried to compile apache 1.3.4 w/ mod_frontpage.....I got the following error during make install. Anyone have any ideas? This is not a FreeBSD port. I compiled the freebsd port of apache 1.3.3 w/frontpage without problems. gcc -c -I../../os/unix -I../../include -funsigned-char `../../apaci` -fpic -D SHARED_MODULE mod_frontpage.c && mv mod_frontpage.o mod_frontpage.lo mod_frontpage.c: In function `FrontPageAlias': mod_frontpage.c:678: structure has no member named `execfilename' *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jan 20 19:54:18 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA02350 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 19:54:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.westbend.net (ns1.westbend.net [156.46.203.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA02344 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 19:54:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hetzels@westbend.net) Received: from admin (admin.westbend.net [156.46.203.13]) by mail.westbend.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA23741 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 21:54:06 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from hetzels@westbend.net) Message-ID: <003801be44f1$b185dde0$0dcb2e9c@westbend.net> From: "Scot W. Hetzel" To: References: <3.0.6.32.19990120205606.00b5a600@netdirect.net> Subject: Re: more frontpage.... Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 21:54:05 -0600 Organization: West Bend Internet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.1012.1001 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.1012.1001 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org From: Andrew Angrick > Hi all... > > I just tried to compile apache 1.3.4 w/ mod_frontpage.....I got the > following error during make install. Anyone have any ideas? This is not a > FreeBSD port. I compiled the freebsd port of apache 1.3.3 w/frontpage > without problems. > > gcc -c -I../../os/unix -I../../include -funsigned-char `../../apaci` > -fpic -D > SHARED_MODULE mod_frontpage.c && mv mod_frontpage.o mod_frontpage.lo > mod_frontpage.c: In function `FrontPageAlias': > mod_frontpage.c:678: structure has no member named `execfilename' > *** Error code 1 > The frontpage module requires 3 patches to the main apache sources (patch-f{h-j} in the apache13-fp port). Also, you need to remove quotes from the DocumentRoot Directive, as thefpadmsrv.exe program doesn't know how to handle quotes. NOTE: I have sent Andrew the completed apach13-fp port for Apache v1.3.4. It builds, but hasn't been tested for installation, server operation, and de-installation. Scot To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jan 20 21:54:01 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA16688 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 21:52:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mayon.cats.edu.ph (mayon.cats.edu.ph [203.172.25.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA16673 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 21:52:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dune@mayon.cats.edu.ph) Received: from localhost (dune@localhost) by mayon.cats.edu.ph (8.9.0/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA03667 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 14:04:29 +0800 Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 14:04:29 +0800 (PHT) From: "Francis Percival C. Favoreal" To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: users Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi all, We have a Cisco 2511 running IOS 11.2. Our subscribers dials to our router through the 16 Asyncs. I just want to ask if it is possible to disconnect a user without manually resetting a modem where that user is currently connected to (i.e. just using a command in IOS)? The subscribers are authenticated using TACACS+. Thank you in advance. -- riko Systems Administrator CATSNET To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jan 20 22:46:45 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA23140 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 22:46:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from picalon.gun.de (picalon.gun.de [192.109.159.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA23124 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 22:46:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andreas@klemm.gtn.com) Received: from klemm.gtn.com (pppak04.gtn.com [194.231.123.169]) by picalon.gun.de (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id HAA14477; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 07:46:23 +0100 (MET) Received: (from andreas@localhost) by klemm.gtn.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) id HAA14597; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 07:32:18 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from andreas) Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 07:32:18 +0100 From: Andreas Klemm To: Troy Kittrell Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Squid -2 Message-ID: <19990121073218.A14298@titan.klemm.gtn.com> References: <199901191542.RAA19050@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za> <36A54218.A6186CC@basspro.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: <36A54218.A6186CC@basspro.com>; from Troy Kittrell on Tue, Jan 19, 1999 at 08:40:24PM -0600 X-Disclaimer: A free society is one where it is safe to be unpopular X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT SMP Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Jan 19, 1999 at 08:40:24PM -0600, Troy Kittrell wrote: > ...dat's da ticket! Apparently the searches I was using from the Squid > home page don't have this indexed. Also, I've been toying with a perl > script as the authentication program and all seems well so far. Thanks > to all! Hi ! Would it be possible to make this perl script for LDAP authentication available for the squid developers, to include it into the contrib section ?! Andreas /// -- Andreas Klemm http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/~andreas What gives you 90% more speed, for example, in kernel compilation ? http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/~fsmp/SMP/akgraph-a/graph1.html "NT = Not Today" (Maggie Biggs) ``powered by FreeBSD SMP'' To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jan 21 01:46:04 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA12283 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 01:46:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rnocserv.urc.ac.ru (rnocserv.urc.ac.ru [193.233.85.48]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA12262 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 01:45:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from joy@urc.ac.ru) Received: from urc.ac.ru (y.urc.ac.ru [193.233.85.37]) by rnocserv.urc.ac.ru (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA29497; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 14:43:16 +0500 (ES) (envelope-from joy@urc.ac.ru) Message-ID: <36A6F6B3.B84CD80D@urc.ac.ru> Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 14:43:15 +0500 From: Konstantin Chuguev Organization: Southern Regional Center of FREEnet X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386) X-Accept-Language: ru, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Francis Percival C. Favoreal" CC: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: users References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Francis Percival C. Favoreal" wrote: > hi all, > > We have a Cisco 2511 running IOS 11.2. Our subscribers dials to our router > through the 16 Asyncs. I just want to ask if it is possible to disconnect > a user without manually resetting a modem where that user is currently > connected to (i.e. just using a command in IOS)? > > The subscribers are authenticated using TACACS+. > enable# clear line tty N -- Konstantin V. Chuguev. System administrator of Southern http://www.urc.ac.ru/~joy/ Ural Regional Center of FREEnet, mailto:joy@urc.ac.ru Chelyabinsk, Russia. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jan 21 02:15:11 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA15078 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 02:15:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from myframe.wplus.net (myframe.wplus.net [195.131.0.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA15056 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 02:15:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ptitz@myframe.wplus.net) Received: (from ptitz@localhost) by myframe.wplus.net (8.9.0/8.8.8) id OAA00796; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 14:15:19 +0300 (MSK) From: Dmitry Mishin Message-Id: <199901211115.OAA00796@myframe.wplus.net> Subject: Re: users To: dune@cats.edu.ph (Francis Percival C. Favoreal) Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 14:15:16 +0300 (MSK) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Francis Percival C. Favoreal" at "Jan 21, 99 02:04:29 pm" Organization: WEBPlus Ltd. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > > hi all, > > We have a Cisco 2511 running IOS 11.2. Our subscribers dials to our router > through the 16 Asyncs. I just want to ask if it is possible to disconnect > a user without manually resetting a modem where that user is currently > connected to (i.e. just using a command in IOS)? > You could use something, which will execute "clear line XX", or SNMP_SET 1.3.6.1.4.1.9.2.1.76.XX -- D.Mishin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jan 21 07:16:43 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA14240 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 07:16:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gjp.erols.com (alex-va-n008c079.moon.jic.com [206.156.18.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA14235 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 07:16:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gjp@gjp.erols.com) Received: from gjp.erols.com (localhost.erols.com [127.0.0.1]) by gjp.erols.com (8.9.1/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA04601; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 10:15:56 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gjp@gjp.erols.com) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: "Francis Percival C. Favoreal" cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: users In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 21 Jan 1999 14:04:29 +0800." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 10:15:56 -0500 Message-ID: <4597.916931756@gjp.erols.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Francis Percival C. Favoreal" wrote in message ID : > We have a Cisco 2511 running IOS 11.2. Our subscribers dials to our router > through the 16 Asyncs. I just want to ask if it is possible to disconnect > a user without manually resetting a modem where that user is currently > connected to (i.e. just using a command in IOS)? I suggest you investigate the `clear' command from enable mode. I think its `clear line ' offhand, but not quite sure as we use 2511's for something very different :) Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jan 21 07:46:10 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA17847 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 07:46:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from math.gatech.edu (math.gatech.edu [130.207.146.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA17838 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 07:46:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from coleman@math.gatech.edu) Received: from math.gatech.edu (coleman@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by math.gatech.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA00460 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 10:46:15 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199901211546.KAA00460@math.gatech.edu> To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Frontpage and/or Firewalls Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 10:46:15 -0500 From: Richard Coleman Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm new to this list, so I apologize if there two questions arise frequently. 1. We are trying to get the suexec program and the Frontpage module play nice with each other on a FreeBSD boxy. Since they are both wrappers, I need to get Apache to pick one or the other to call. Has anyone done this? Is it better to hack Apache or suexec? 2. We are looking into setting up a firewall box on FreeBSD (or OpenBSD). I've been reading the standard books on firewalls, but wondered if there are any web pages (or pieces of software) geared toward setting up firewalls on BSD boxes. Thanks, Richard Coleman coleman@math.gatech.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jan 21 08:13:07 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA20989 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 08:13:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ice.geology.wisc.edu (ice.geology.wisc.edu [144.92.137.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA20977; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 08:12:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chen@geology.wisc.edu) Received: from firn.geology.wisc.edu (firn.geology.wisc.edu [144.92.137.43]) by ice.geology.wisc.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA12769; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 10:12:38 -0600 (CST) From: Chen Liu Received: by firn.geology.wisc.edu (Sendmail 4.1/1.05) id AA00554; Thu, 21 Jan 99 10:12:37 CST Message-Id: <9901211612.AA00554@firn.geology.wisc.edu> Subject: slow ppp To: gpalmer@FreeBSD.ORG (Gary Palmer) Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 10:12:36 -0600 (CST) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <4597.916931756@gjp.erols.com> from "Gary Palmer" at Jan 21, 99 10:15:56 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Could anyone tell me why modem is much slower in FreeBSD(3.0) than in NT? When I download files from an office machine to my home machine using ftp on NT, the rate is 13k/sec. However, the rate is only 1.8k/sec on FreeBSD that is dual-bootable with NT on the same machine. Thanks for any help! Chen To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jan 21 08:38:56 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA23777 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 08:38:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from enterprise.ciai.net (shreveport.la.us.altnet.org [209.136.8.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA23771 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 08:38:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from slipmat@ciai.net) Received: from ciai.net (firewall.ciai.net [209.136.8.252]) by enterprise.ciai.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA06010 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 10:46:06 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <36A7590B.478DAE24@ciai.net> Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 10:42:51 -0600 From: Brian Scott X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Accounting Software Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm just looking for suggestions on accounting software, I'm looking for something that might interact with radius as well with the other FreeBSD/BSdi machines on the network. I'm also looking for something with a web interface to it =] thanks Brian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jan 21 08:41:53 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA24262 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 08:41:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ethel.basspro.com (ethel.basspro.com [12.14.224.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA24257 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 08:41:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from troyk@basspro.com) Received: from gateway.basspro.com by ethel.basspro.com; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/29Jan96-0343PM) id AA17672; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 10:44:26 -0600 Message-Id: <36A75815.4CE68D8@basspro.com> Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 10:38:46 -0600 From: Troy Kittrell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (WinNT; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Richard Coleman Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Frontpage and/or Firewalls References: <199901211546.KAA00460@math.gatech.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On the firewalls subject: ipfw (and natd), included with FreeBSD works well for me. My favorite link to security stuff in general is http://www.cs.purdue.edu/coast/hotlist/ and then there's always the FreeBSD on-line manual... Hope this helps! Richard Coleman wrote: > > I'm new to this list, so I apologize if there two questions > arise frequently. > > 1. We are trying to get the suexec program and the Frontpage > module play nice with each other on a FreeBSD boxy. Since > they are both wrappers, I need to get Apache to pick one or > the other to call. Has anyone done this? Is it better to > hack Apache or suexec? > > 2. We are looking into setting up a firewall box on FreeBSD (or > OpenBSD). I've been reading the standard books on firewalls, > but wondered if there are any web pages (or pieces of software) > geared toward setting up firewalls on BSD boxes. > > Thanks, > > Richard Coleman > coleman@math.gatech.edu > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message -- Troy Kittrell troyk@basspro.com Internet Systems Coordinator Bass Pro Outdoors Online To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jan 21 09:04:00 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA27081 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 09:04:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mproxy.zedo.fuedo.de (mproxy.zedo.fuedo.de [193.99.167.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA27074 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 09:03:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hartung@zkom.de) Received: (from root@localhost) by mproxy.zedo.fuedo.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA21865; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 18:02:47 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from hartung@zkom.de) Received: from master.zkom.de(193.99.166.6) by mproxy.zedo.fuedo.de via smap (V2.1) id xma021863; Thu, 21 Jan 99 18:02:37 +0100 Received: from zkom.de (jack.zkom.de [193.99.166.10]) by master.zkom.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA27730; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 18:02:37 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <36A75DD7.EBAC7E40@zkom.de> Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 18:03:19 +0100 From: Michael Hartung Organization: ZKOM GmbH, Germany, Fax: +49 (0) 231 9700474 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: coleman@math.gatech.edu, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Frontpage and/or Firewalls References: <199901211546.KAA00460@math.gatech.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Richard Coleman wrote: > 1. ... > 2. We are looking into setting up a firewall box on FreeBSD (or > OpenBSD). I've been reading the standard books on firewalls, > but wondered if there are any web pages (or pieces of software) > geared toward setting up firewalls on BSD boxes. > > Thanks, > > Richard Coleman > coleman@math.gatech.edu Hello Richard, we are offering FireWall-Solutions with FreeBSD running on the packetfilter hosts, as well as on the Proxy in between. Past experience has shown, that FreeBSD is a secure basis to set up a FireWall. You can cancel all vulnerable services on the packetfilter hosts, because the packetfiltering is done by the kernel. Feel free to ask me in case of any special questions. In about three weeks our web-page http://www.zkom.de/ will be complete bilingual (only the GAME part is availible in english at the moment). Maybe http://www.zkom.de/sicherheit/index.html could help you after the translation. -- Michael Hartung |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | ZKOM GmbH | | State Diagnostics Systems | | and Computer Networks | | | | WWW: www.zkom.de (WebCam) | | | | Joseph-von-Fraunhofer Str. 20 | | D-44227 Dortmund | | Germany | | E-mail: hartung@zkom.de | | Phone: +49 (0)231 / 9700 336 | | Fax: +49 (0)231 / 9700 474 | | Mobile: +49 (0)172 / 67 70 522 | | | | AG Dortmund HRB 12918 | | Managing Director: Dipl.-Ing. Michael Hartung | |_______________________________________________| To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jan 21 09:38:22 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA01738 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 09:38:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zoe.iserve.net (zoe.iserve.net [207.250.219.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA01732 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 09:38:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rch@iserve.net) Received: from acidic (acidic.iserve.net [207.250.219.40]) by zoe.iserve.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA07074; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 12:37:59 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 12:37:59 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19990121123835.00cc72b0@iserve.net> X-Sender: rch@iserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) To: Brian Scott From: Robert Hough Subject: Re: Accounting Software Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 10:42 AM 1/21/99 -0600, you wrote: >I'm just looking for suggestions on accounting software, I'm looking for >something that might interact with radius as well with the other >FreeBSD/BSdi machines on the network. I'm also looking for something >with a web interface to it =] Check OptiGold ISP, at http://www.data-point.com We've been using it for nearly 6 months now, and it just keeps getting better. Lots of cool features, and Shawn just added a web interface for it. It's based on FileMaker Pro database files, so it runs on 95/NT and Mac. But integration is fairly simple, and he has a mailing list for support. If you do decide to use it, and need help, let me know. Since I'm using it with FreeBSD & Radius as well, I should be able to get you going with it. __ _______ |__| __|.-----.----.--.--.-----. .-------------------------------. | |__ || -__| _| | | -__| | Robert Hough (rch@iserve.net) | |__|_______||_____|__| \___/|_____| | 317-802-3036 / 317-876-0846 | _____________________________________________________________________| To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jan 21 10:27:57 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA08710 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 10:27:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zoe.iserve.net (zoe.iserve.net [207.250.219.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA08701 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 10:27:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rch@iserve.net) Received: from acidic (acidic.iserve.net [207.250.219.40]) by zoe.iserve.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA08649; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 13:27:43 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 13:27:43 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19990121132818.00cc52e0@iserve.net> X-Sender: rch@iserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) To: Chen Liu From: Robert Hough Subject: Re: slow ppp Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 10:12 AM 1/21/99 -0600, you wrote: >Could anyone tell me why modem is much slower in FreeBSD(3.0) than in NT? >When I download files from an office machine to my home machine using >ftp on NT, the rate is 13k/sec. However, the rate is only 1.8k/sec >on FreeBSD that is dual-bootable with NT on the same machine. I've never used FreeBSD to do dial-up with before, but my first guess would be to check your MTU setting. __ _______ |__| __|.-----.----.--.--.-----. .-------------------------------. | |__ || -__| _| | | -__| | Robert Hough (rch@iserve.net) | |__|_______||_____|__| \___/|_____| | 317-802-3036 / 317-876-0846 | _____________________________________________________________________| To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jan 21 10:43:28 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA10495 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 10:43:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from runner.jjsoft.com (jahanur.intur.net [206.97.149.64]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA10486 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 10:43:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jahanur@jjsoft.com) Received: from jjsoft.com (lion.jjsoft.com [206.97.159.66]) by runner.jjsoft.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id MAA21150 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 12:43:12 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <36A775BD.42BBD874@jjsoft.com> Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 12:45:18 -0600 From: Jahanur R Subedar Organization: J & J Software Solutions,www.jjsoft.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Questions Daily report Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi All, I am new at UNIX. And new as an ISP also. Recently we put an add in the Yellow Pages. And we want to know how many hits we are getting on our main home page. I was checking the Httpd-log file everyday. But I wanted to find out how can I make it to send hits info as an email to me by the Daily Deamon. Please can you help me. Or any hints. Thanks in Advance. Jahanur To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jan 21 11:18:05 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA14616 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 11:17:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Radford.i-Plus.net (radford.i-plus.net [209.100.20.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA14611 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 11:17:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rewt@i-Plus.net) Received: from Radford.i-Plus.net (rewt@www.i-plus.net [209.100.20.4]) by Radford.i-Plus.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA28585; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 14:16:50 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 14:16:50 -0500 (EST) From: Troy Settle To: "Scot W. Hetzel" cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: more frontpage.... In-Reply-To: <003801be44f1$b185dde0$0dcb2e9c@westbend.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Odd, I just got done patching 1.3.4 with SSL-1.29, FP-3.0.4.2, and PHP-3.0.6. I had to fake the SSL patch, but the rest built cleanly. I'm about to do a 'make install' and configure it, hope it works as well as the last one did. -- Troy Settle Network Administrator, iPlus Internet Services http://www.i-Plus.net On Wed, 20 Jan 1999, Scot W. Hetzel wrote: > From: Andrew Angrick > > Hi all... > > > > I just tried to compile apache 1.3.4 w/ mod_frontpage.....I got the > > following error during make install. Anyone have any ideas? This is not a > > FreeBSD port. I compiled the freebsd port of apache 1.3.3 w/frontpage > > without problems. > > > > gcc -c -I../../os/unix -I../../include -funsigned-char `../../apaci` > > -fpic -D > > SHARED_MODULE mod_frontpage.c && mv mod_frontpage.o mod_frontpage.lo > > mod_frontpage.c: In function `FrontPageAlias': > > mod_frontpage.c:678: structure has no member named `execfilename' > > *** Error code 1 > > > The frontpage module requires 3 patches to the main apache sources > (patch-f{h-j} in the apache13-fp port). Also, you need to remove quotes > from the DocumentRoot Directive, as thefpadmsrv.exe program doesn't know how > to handle quotes. > > NOTE: I have sent Andrew the completed apach13-fp port for Apache v1.3.4. > It builds, but hasn't been tested for installation, server operation, and > de-installation. > > Scot > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jan 21 11:52:10 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA18752 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 11:52:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zoe.iserve.net (zoe.iserve.net [207.250.219.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA18746 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 11:52:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rch@iserve.net) Received: from acidic (acidic.iserve.net [207.250.219.40]) by zoe.iserve.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA11280; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 14:51:53 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 14:51:53 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19990121145228.00cc7850@iserve.net> X-Sender: rch@iserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) To: Jahanur R Subedar From: Robert Hough Subject: Re: Questions Daily report Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 12:45 PM 1/21/99 -0600, you wrote: >I am new at UNIX. And new as an ISP also. >Recently we put an add in the Yellow Pages. >And we want to know how many hits we are getting on our main home page. >I was checking the Httpd-log file everyday. >But I wanted to find out how can I make it to send hits info as an >email to me by the Daily Deamon. Check /usr/ports/www/http-analyze, it should do what you want it to. Just make install, and away you go. If you didn't install the ports collection, or for some reason you dont have http-analyze, here's their URL: http://www.netstore.de/Supply/http-analyze/ __ _______ |__| __|.-----.----.--.--.-----. .-------------------------------. | |__ || -__| _| | | -__| | Robert Hough (rch@iserve.net) | |__|_______||_____|__| \___/|_____| | 317-802-3036 / 317-876-0846 | _____________________________________________________________________| To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jan 21 15:06:47 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA10629 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 15:06:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.westbend.net (ns1.westbend.net [156.46.203.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA10621 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 15:06:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hetzels@westbend.net) Received: from admin (admin.westbend.net [156.46.203.13]) by mail.westbend.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA27416; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 17:06:31 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from hetzels@westbend.net) Message-ID: <006701be4592$af479b80$0dcb2e9c@westbend.net> From: "Scot W. Hetzel" To: "Richard Coleman" Cc: References: <199901211546.KAA00460@math.gatech.edu> Subject: Re: Frontpage and/or Firewalls Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 17:06:30 -0600 Organization: West Bend Internet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.1012.1001 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.1012.1001 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org From: Richard Coleman > I'm new to this list, so I apologize if there two questions > arise frequently. > > 1. We are trying to get the suexec program and the Frontpage > module play nice with each other on a FreeBSD boxy. Since > they are both wrappers, I need to get Apache to pick one or > the other to call. Has anyone done this? Is it better to > hack Apache or suexec? > Since, no-one was answering this question, I might as well. ;) You need to patch the suexec program, so that when the apache server request that the fpexe program be executed by the suexec program, the suexec program skips all directory checks and executes the fpexe program. Currently, this is how the apache*-fp ports are patched to work with the suexec program. To build the suexec program from the apache*-fp port use: make [configure/build/install] -DSUEXEC [-DHTTPD_USER=] Scot To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jan 21 15:11:23 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA11600 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 15:11:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gina.swimsuit.internet.dk (mail.swimsuit.internet.dk [194.255.12.232]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA11594 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 15:11:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from root@swimsuit.internet.dk) Received: from gina (gina [192.168.0.14]) by gina.swimsuit.internet.dk (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id AAA42109 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 00:10:31 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from root@swimsuit.internet.dk) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 00:10:31 +0100 (CET) From: Leif Neland To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cucipop virtual popservers Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Could someone explain the virtual popservers in cucipop? We host several domains, but eventually user@one.domain and another@second.domain all pick up their mail as user on mail.real.domain These user all exists in /etc/passwd How is user@one.domain supposed to pick up the mail using the virtual popserver? Should I give one.domain the same ip as mail.real.domain? Some email clients combine popusername and mailserver in one line, eg user0001@mail.real.domain It is therefore not possible to specify a name user@one.domain, but connect to mail.real.domain. I'm confused... Anyway, the accounting department also want only paying users listed in a file (generated by the accounting system) to be able to pick up mail, like the popusers file in qpopper. Is this virtual popserver password table usable with this? Actually, cucipop could look up the password and "account payed" in a MySql base directly; has somebody made such an auth-module? Leif Neland To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jan 21 15:14:47 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA12062 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 15:14:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fastlane.net (fastlane.net [209.197.224.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA12057 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 15:14:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lacoursj@jeff.net) Received: from dudemon.fastlane.net (dudemon.fastlane.net [209.197.192.66]) by fastlane.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id RAA00159; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 17:14:35 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 17:15:12 -0600 (CST) From: "Jeffrey D. LaCoursiere" X-Sender: lacoursj@dudemon.fastlane.net To: Robert Hough cc: sales@fastlane.net, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Accounting Software In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19990121123835.00cc72b0@iserve.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Robert, Does Optigold interface with Radius accounting records to do usage based billing? FLAMS has Radius actually built into the product (a custom modified version of Merit radius), so your tech support has access to real-time radius records. My tech support often pull up a customer's call information, through the web interface, while they are on the phone debugging the problem! The backend database for FLAMS is SQL and ODBC compliant, allowing you to choose from any number of ODBC enabled reporting engines to create your own custom reports and data views. FLAMS also has a tech support ticketing system built-in, employee time tracking, customer referral credits, completely integrated Credit Card support (all charges and refunds happen automatically behind the scenes). Many, many automated customer interaction tasks include mailing customers when their credit cards are about to expire, mailing them when they venture beyond defined usage restrictions (bandwidth or accumulated call time), mailing them when their accounts become overdue, mailing them when their credit card is declined, reminders that their services are up for renewal, and a welcome message when they sign up! FLAMS is *completely* integrated with your server software, such that accounts that are suspended for whatever reason (either manually through the web interface or automated during closeofday processing, where an account may be suspended for exceeding usage restrictions, exceeding the grace period for overdue balance, or expired) cause defined events to occur on your servers. An example of this working at FastLane: 1) Customer signs up a dialup account with a credit card 2) Tech support enters account information (or customer does so online) 3) FLAMS hook is called that causes the mail server to create an IMAP directory and sends a welcome email message, the web server creates a web space directory and copies in a default web page, the radius server creates an attribute entry for the customer with any custom attributes required by the service subscribed 4) Nightly processing creates the credit card batch which is sent and the results parsed. The customer's card is approved, and he is sent a statement showing the charge and the payment applied from his card. 5) Customer uses the account continuously for a week, accumulating over 150 hours, which is defined at FastLane as a soft limit. The customer is sent a warning message. 6) Customer ignores warning message and hits the hard limit of 200 hours a few days later, which causes his account to be suspended in closeofday processing. 7) The suspension calls a hook which causes the mail server to tar up and archive his mail files and IMAP folders, the web server tars up and archives his web files, and his Radius attribute information is removed. He is still connected, so his terminal server is contacted and he is booted (Ascend equipment only at this time). 8) He calls the next day and arranges to pay extra for more time, and his account is unsuspended. 9) Again a hook is called that causes his archived mail and web files to go back to their normal places, and his radius attributes are restored. 10) Customer's anniversary day comes and his account is charged for the next month. Closeofday credit card batch attempts to charge his card but fails. He is sent a message that his card was declined. 11) He ignores the declined messages and eventually his account is overdue. He begins receiving overdue messages every other night (configurable). 12) He ignores the overdue messages and reaches the overdue threshold, which causes his account to be suspended as above... 13) He calls the next day and makes arrangements to pay by cash by the next week. A "grace date" is entered on his account through the web interface that keeps closeofday processing from suspending his still overdue account. 14) A few days before the gracedate is reached the customer begins receiving reminders that a gracedate had been arranged, and that it was almost upon him. 15) Customer ignores grace date and closeofday processing suspends his account again. 16) Customer goes away, and fifteen days later the account is automatically closed. At FastLane, the amount owed is reviewed by closeofday processing to see if it warrants collection work, and if so the account state is changed to "collections". A report of the accounts in collection state is emailed to our contracted collections company for processing. If the customer ever pays, the account is changed to "closed" state... Sorry for the length - wanted to showcase some of the features. Note that a human was barely involved in this entire story - mainly just to answer the phone when the customer called and make arrangements for payment. No sticky notes taped to monitors to make sure he meets those arrangements. No need for collection employees or pouring over monstrous A/R reports. One feature I didn't show was the ability of a payment to automatically open a suspended-for-overdue account, which can be customer driven. The customers have access to their statements and can enter credit card information to pay their overdue bill... no human involvement (assuming they have net access in some other manner, of course ;) . The system runs on FreeBSD 2.2.8 or above, and our Solaris port is *almost* finished. We will have a Linux port soon as well. The backend database is MySQL, with ODBC support (works great with Crystal Reports!). Best of all, we give you 90% of the source code (written in standard C). We only hang onto the code for the C API functions and our in-house developed form engine (drives the web interface). All of the automated email messages are template driven which you can edit. All of the web screens are template driven so you can monkey with the look and feel. Tools allow you to customize the account information tables to collect and act on whatever additional information you like. We are almost ready to market this product in a major way, and you will hear more about it soon. It has been running six ISP's for close to a year, from 500 customers to over 20,000. The 20K+ ISP is running the system on a Pentium II 300 with 128MB RAM and an NFS mounted 30GB array from a Network Appliance box. FastLane itself has run the product in house since November of 1997, and I can honestly say that we would not be here today without it. You have no idea how much billing problems cost your company until you solve them ;) I have only skimmed the surface of what this product can do. Give me a call for a walk through of our demo site (www.flams.com)! Thanks, Jeff LaCoursiere President FastLane Communications, Inc. On Thu, 21 Jan 1999, Robert Hough wrote: > At 10:42 AM 1/21/99 -0600, you wrote: > >I'm just looking for suggestions on accounting software, I'm looking for > >something that might interact with radius as well with the other > >FreeBSD/BSdi machines on the network. I'm also looking for something > >with a web interface to it =] > > Check OptiGold ISP, at http://www.data-point.com We've been using it for > nearly 6 months now, and it just keeps getting better. Lots of cool > features, and Shawn just added a web interface for it. It's based on > FileMaker Pro database files, so it runs on 95/NT and Mac. But integration > is fairly simple, and he has a mailing list for support. If you do decide > to use it, and need help, let me know. Since I'm using it with FreeBSD & > Radius as well, I should be able to get you going with it. > > > __ _______ > |__| __|.-----.----.--.--.-----. .-------------------------------. > | |__ || -__| _| | | -__| | Robert Hough (rch@iserve.net) | > |__|_______||_____|__| \___/|_____| | 317-802-3036 / 317-876-0846 | > _____________________________________________________________________| > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jan 21 16:09:22 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA20861 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 16:09:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mercury.jorsm.com (mercury.jorsm.com [207.112.128.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA20783; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 16:09:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jer@jorsm.com) Received: from localhost (jer@localhost) by mercury.jorsm.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA03621; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 18:09:01 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 18:09:01 -0600 (CST) From: Jeremy Shaffner To: Chen Liu cc: Gary Palmer , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: slow ppp In-Reply-To: <9901211612.AA00554@firn.geology.wisc.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 21 Jan 1999, Chen Liu wrote: > Could anyone tell me why modem is much slower in FreeBSD(3.0) than in NT? > When I download files from an office machine to my home machine using > ftp on NT, the rate is 13k/sec. However, the rate is only 1.8k/sec > on FreeBSD that is dual-bootable with NT on the same machine. > It's surely not the modem. Try turning off tcp extensions. In /etc/rc.conf: tcp_extensions="NO" # Allow RFC1323 & RFC1644 extensions (or NO). -===================================================================- Jeremy Shaffner JORSM Internet Senior Technical Support Northwest Indiana's Premium jer@jorsm.com Internet Service Provider support@jorsm.com http://www.jorsm.com -===================================================================- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jan 21 16:24:24 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA23857 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 16:24:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from runner.jjsoft.com (jahanur.intur.net [206.97.149.64]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA23846 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 16:24:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jahanur@jjsoft.com) Received: from localhost (jahanur@localhost) by runner.jjsoft.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id SAA01370 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 18:23:58 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 18:23:58 -0600 (CST) From: jahanur To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Installing 3.0 stable Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org We have got a new server Dell Power Edge 2300/400. I am taking a risk to install The 3.0 Stable. Is 3.0 Stable avaiable in the ftp site. YET. Please let me know Thanks in Advance. Jahanur To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jan 21 22:19:15 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA25886 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 22:19:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.siscom.net (mail.siscom.net [206.244.171.30] (may be forged)) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA25870 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 22:19:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from radams@siscom.net) Received: from mp (wize1@mp.siscom.net [209.251.2.40]) by mail.siscom.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA09221; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 22:36:45 -0500 Message-ID: <038501be45b7$45a7a920$2802fbd1@mp.siscom.net> From: "Robert Adams" To: Cc: Subject: Building new mail system Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 22:28:23 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello all, We're putting together a new box to handle mail.. thought I would pick your brains a little for advice. Hopefully someone has done this already. We are planning on using 4x9gig Cheetahs in a RAID 0+1 configuration.. Currently we are looking at two RAID-RAID controllers. 1) Mylex 2 CHANNEL RAID W-U SCSI DACSXI 2) CMD CRD-5440 or CRD-5500's Few questions.. can anyone recommend one of the above controllers over the other? If so, for what reasons. Does the RAID 0+1 seem like the way to go? Or should we go with something like RAID 5? The reason we aren't going with something like the DPT controllers is that you have to boot to DOS to fix a failure... which isn't good imho. Any other controller/setup recommendations are welcome.. TIA, Jason --- Robert J. Adams radams@siscom.net http://www.siscom.net Looking to outsource news? http://www.newshosting.com SISCOM Network Administration - President, SISCOM Inc. Phone: 888-4-SISCOM 937-222-8150 FAX: 937-222-8153 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jan 22 02:00:47 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA18620 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 02:00:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mimas.eclipse.net.uk (mimas.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA18605 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 02:00:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stuart@eclipse.net.uk) Received: from eclipse.net.uk (mimas.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.17]) by mimas.eclipse.net.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA21745; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 09:56:59 GMT Message-ID: <36A84B62.574D642A@eclipse.net.uk> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 09:56:50 +0000 From: Stuart Henderson Organization: Eclipse Networking X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.35 i686) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Leif Neland CC: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cucipop virtual popservers References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Leif Neland wrote: > > We host several domains, but eventually user@one.domain and > another@second.domain all pick up their mail as user on > mail.real.domain Sounds like you need to look into sendmail virtusertable. HTH Stuart To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jan 22 03:46:07 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA28997 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 03:46:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mailgw2.telekurs.com (mailgw2.telekurs.com [193.247.180.59]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA28992 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 03:46:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from DUB@Telekurs.com) Received: (from mailgw@localhost) by mailgw2.telekurs.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with UUCP id MAA28112; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 12:45:50 +0100 (MET) Received: from Telekurs.com (pc-71472.telekurs.com [153.46.59.183]) by chiasso.telekurs.com (8.8.6 (PHNE_12836)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA09295; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 12:39:57 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <36A8638B.5D09A4A5@Telekurs.com> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 12:39:55 +0100 From: Bernhard Duebi Reply-To: DUB@payserv.telekurs.com Organization: Telekurs Payserv AG X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [de] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: radams@siscom.net, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Building new mail system References: <038501be45b7$45a7a920$2802fbd1@mp.siscom.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I don't know the controllers, but if ever possible avoid Raid 5. It's slow. I think Raid 0+1 is the way to go. Cheers Bernhard radams@siscom.net schrieb: > Hello all, > > We're putting together a new box to handle mail.. thought I would pick your > brains a little for advice. Hopefully someone has done this already. > > We are planning on using 4x9gig Cheetahs in a RAID 0+1 configuration.. > Currently we are looking at two RAID-RAID controllers. > > 1) Mylex 2 CHANNEL RAID W-U SCSI DACSXI > 2) CMD CRD-5440 or CRD-5500's > > Few questions.. can anyone recommend one of the above controllers over the > other? If so, for what reasons. Does the RAID 0+1 seem like the way to go? > Or should we go with something like RAID 5? > > The reason we aren't going with something like the DPT controllers is that > you have to boot to DOS to fix a failure... which isn't good imho. Any other > controller/setup recommendations are welcome.. > > TIA, > > Jason > > --- > Robert J. Adams radams@siscom.net http://www.siscom.net > Looking to outsource news? http://www.newshosting.com > SISCOM Network Administration - President, SISCOM Inc. > Phone: 888-4-SISCOM 937-222-8150 FAX: 937-222-8153 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jan 22 04:42:31 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA11281 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 04:42:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.i-p-d.nl (ns.i-p-d.nl [207.235.6.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA11276 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 04:42:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chem@i-p-d.nl) From: chem@i-p-d.nl Received: from gateway (vp204-52.worldonline.nl [195.241.204.52]) by ns.i-p-d.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA06893; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 13:44:20 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from chem@i-p-d.nl) Message-Id: <199901221244.NAA06893@ns.i-p-d.nl> To: Leif Neland Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 13:44:54 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: cucipop virtual popservers Reply-to: chem@i-p-d.nl CC: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Could someone explain the virtual popservers in cucipop? > > We host several domains, but eventually user@one.domain and > another@second.domain all pick up their mail as user on > mail.real.domain > > These user all exists in /etc/passwd > > How is user@one.domain supposed to pick up the mail using the virtual > popserver? Should I give one.domain the same ip as mail.real.domain? 1. enable virtuser in sendmail.cf 2. make a file /etc/virtuser with entries like whatever@domain.com popuser 3. do makemap hash /etc/virtusertable.db Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA15594 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 05:24:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ethel.basspro.com (ethel.basspro.com [12.14.224.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA15587 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 05:24:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from troyk@basspro.com) Received: from gateway.basspro.com by ethel.basspro.com; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/29Jan96-0343PM) id AA29296; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 07:26:42 -0600 Message-Id: <36A87B36.54D52D57@basspro.com> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 07:20:54 -0600 From: Troy Kittrell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (WinNT; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: jahanur Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Installing 3.0 stable References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org If you use your browser and take a look at ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.ORG/pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-stable/supfile.cvsup you can see that it indicatates what level stable is at. jahanur wrote: > > We have got a new server Dell Power Edge 2300/400. > I am taking a risk to install The 3.0 Stable. > Is 3.0 Stable avaiable in the ftp site. > YET. > Please let me know > > Thanks in Advance. > > Jahanur > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message -- Troy Kittrell troyk@basspro.com Internet Systems Coordinator Bass Pro Outdoors Online To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jan 22 07:01:57 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA25546 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 07:01:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.intercom.com (mail.intercom.com [206.98.165.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA25541 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 07:01:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jason@intercom.com) Received: from mail.intercom.com (mail.intercom.com [206.98.165.10]) by mail.intercom.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id KAA05254; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 10:00:09 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 10:00:09 -0500 (EST) From: "Jason J. Horton" To: chem@i-p-d.nl cc: Leif Neland , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cucipop virtual popservers In-Reply-To: <199901221244.NAA06893@ns.i-p-d.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I believe the person was asking about virtual pop servers in cucipop, not virtusertabel in sendmail. -J On Fri, 22 Jan 1999 chem@i-p-d.nl wrote: > > Could someone explain the virtual popservers in cucipop? > > > > We host several domains, but eventually user@one.domain and > > another@second.domain all pick up their mail as user on > > mail.real.domain > > > > These user all exists in /etc/passwd > > > > How is user@one.domain supposed to pick up the mail using the virtual > > popserver? Should I give one.domain the same ip as mail.real.domain? > > 1. enable virtuser in sendmail.cf > > 2. make a file /etc/virtuser > with entries like > > whatever@domain.com popuser > > 3. do > makemap hash /etc/virtusertable.db > 4. add domain.com to /etc/sendmail.cw > > 5. restart sendmail > > killall -HUP sendmail > > and everything should work :) > > HTH > Gina van Zundert > > Internet Page Design > tel: 0165-571675 fax: 0165-571710 > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jan 22 07:36:09 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA29750 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 07:36:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from calumet.infoteam.com (calumet.infoteam.com [207.2.129.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA29703 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 07:36:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kmartin@calumet.infoteam.com) Received: (from kmartin@localhost) by calumet.infoteam.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA28992; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 10:35:51 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199901221535.KAA28992@calumet.infoteam.com> From: "Kenn Martin" To: "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 10:36:55 -0500 Reply-To: "Kenn Martin" X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Professional (2.01.1600) For Windows 98 (4.10.1998) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: more frontpage.... Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 21 Jan 1999 14:16:50 -0500 (EST), Troy Settle wrote: >Odd, I just got done patching 1.3.4 with SSL-1.29, FP-3.0.4.2, and >PHP-3.0.6. I had to fake the SSL patch, but the rest built cleanly. > >I'm about to do a 'make install' and configure it, hope it works as well >as the last one did. Is there an order of operation necessary to get this working properly? I can get things to build, but FP clients won't communicate with the server. kenn To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jan 22 09:48:26 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA13573 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 09:48:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gina.swimsuit.internet.dk (mail.swimsuit.internet.dk [194.255.12.232]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA13563 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 09:48:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from root@swimsuit.internet.dk) Received: from gina (gina [192.168.0.14]) by gina.swimsuit.internet.dk (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id SAA23606; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 18:47:30 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from root@swimsuit.internet.dk) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 18:47:30 +0100 (CET) From: Leif Neland To: Stuart Henderson cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cucipop virtual popservers In-Reply-To: <36A84B62.574D642A@eclipse.net.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, Stuart Henderson wrote: > Leif Neland wrote: > > > > We host several domains, but eventually user@one.domain and > > another@second.domain all pick up their mail as user on > > mail.real.domain > > Sounds like you need to look into sendmail virtusertable. > I _DO_ understand and use virtusertable. I use cucipop now, and all users as I said, are in /etc/passwd, as user@mail.real.domain. It works; but I need a way to disable users who are overdue from picking up the mail. I wonder if cucipop's virtual popserver concept is usefull; currently I don't even understand how it is supposed to work... Leif Neland To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jan 22 10:38:07 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA19592 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 10:38:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from saucer.infostrm.com ([216.37.30.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA19586 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 10:38:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from angrick@netdirect.net) Received: from fdc7.fdcredit.com ([216.37.30.7]) by saucer.infostrm.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA00887; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 13:21:32 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from angrick@netdirect.net) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19990122182803.009bd2a8@netdirect.net> X-Sender: angrick@netdirect.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 13:28:03 -0500 To: "Kenn Martin" From: Andy Angrick Subject: Re: more frontpage.... Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 10:36 AM 1/22/99 -0500, you wrote: >On Thu, 21 Jan 1999 14:16:50 -0500 (EST), Troy Settle wrote: > >>Odd, I just got done patching 1.3.4 with SSL-1.29, FP-3.0.4.2, and >>PHP-3.0.6. I had to fake the SSL patch, but the rest built cleanly. >> >>I'm about to do a 'make install' and configure it, hope it works as well >>as the last one did. > >Is there an order of operation necessary to get this working >properly? I can get things to build, but FP clients won't >communicate with the server. Did you start it with ./httpd -DFRONTPAGE? The new version has IfDefine statements in httpd.conf file and sets up configuration differently depending on whether you tell it you're using frontpage w/ the -D switch. Also, if you were using existing httpd.conf files, the stuff that frontpage needs might not be there, i.e. AllowOverride All, etc..I had problems connecting to frontpage also in the beginning..it was a pain in the &*&^%^% trying to figure out what was up. Directory permissions were a problem for me too w/ virtual accounts. Good luck! -Andy > >kenn > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jan 22 11:09:40 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA25617 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 11:09:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mercury.jorsm.com (mercury.jorsm.com [207.112.128.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA25608 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 11:09:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jeff@mercury.jorsm.com) Received: from localhost (jeff@localhost) by mercury.jorsm.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA14556 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 13:09:28 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 13:09:28 -0600 (CST) From: Jeff Lynch To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: more frontpage.... In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19990122182803.009bd2a8@netdirect.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, Andy Angrick wrote: > needs might not be there, i.e. AllowOverride All, etc..I had problems AllowOverride All? ============================================================================ Jeffrey A. Lynch | JORSM Internet, Regional Internet Services email: jeff@jorsm.com | 7 Area Codes in Chicagoland and NW Indiana Voice: (219)322-2180 | 100Mbps+ Connectivity, 56K-DS3, V.90, ISDN Autoresponse: info@jorsm.com | Quality Service, Affordable Prices http://www.jorsm.com | Serving Gov, Biz, Indivds Since 1995 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jan 22 11:25:48 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA27720 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 11:25:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.ahnet.net (mail.ahnet.net [207.213.224.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA27715 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 11:25:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sumbry@ahnet.net) Received: from fink.ahnet.net (fink.ahnet.net [207.213.224.210]) by mail.ahnet.net (8.8.7/8.8.6) with SMTP id LAA16757; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 11:25:36 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 11:25:36 -0800 (PST) From: "Sumbry][" To: Richard Coleman cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Frontpage and/or Firewalls In-Reply-To: <199901211546.KAA00460@math.gatech.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > 1. We are trying to get the suexec program and the Frontpage > module play nice with each other on a FreeBSD boxy. Since > they are both wrappers, I need to get Apache to pick one or > the other to call. Has anyone done this? Is it better to > hack Apache or suexec? We've actually done this. Personally, I think it's better to hack Apache and not suexec. Basically, all we did was modified the Apache procedure that calls the SUEXEC wrapper, so that if the CGI to be called is the Frontpage path, then *don't* use SUEXEC, instead just call it directly. This basically involves modifying the src/main/util_script.c file under Apache and modifying ... if (ap_suexec_enabled && ((r->server->server_uid != ap_user_id) || (r->server->server_gid != ap_group_id) || (!strncmp("/~", r->uri, 2)))) { so that you use a strncmp somewhere in there to check for the path to fpexe in the CGI call, and if it exists, then to *not* use SUEXEC. This works fine for us, and we've had no problems w/FP. I think the main problem stems from the fact that frontpage tries to do the same thing suexec does (IE: su'ing to the id of a specific user when a CGI is run). You obviously can't have two programs try to co-exist that do the same thing (especially since suexec wont run suid programs, and even if you modified it to do so, you're still asking for trouble). Sorry I can't help w/#2, no experience w/firewalls. heh. ----- Sumbry][ | Affinity Hosting | http://affinity.net | sumbry@affinity.net "Run, run, fast as ya can, ya can't catch me, I'm the Gingerbread Man." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jan 22 11:31:54 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA28617 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 11:31:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mercury.jorsm.com (mercury.jorsm.com [207.112.128.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA28609 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 11:31:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jer@jorsm.com) Received: from localhost (jer@localhost) by mercury.jorsm.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA16830; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 13:31:38 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 13:31:37 -0600 (CST) From: Jeremy Shaffner To: Robert Adams cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Building new mail system In-Reply-To: <038501be45b7$45a7a920$2802fbd1@mp.siscom.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Take a peek at ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/config.txt. :) On Thu, 21 Jan 1999, Robert Adams wrote: > Hello all, > > We're putting together a new box to handle mail.. thought I would pick your > brains a little for advice. Hopefully someone has done this already. > > We are planning on using 4x9gig Cheetahs in a RAID 0+1 configuration.. > Currently we are looking at two RAID-RAID controllers. > > 1) Mylex 2 CHANNEL RAID W-U SCSI DACSXI > 2) CMD CRD-5440 or CRD-5500's > > Few questions.. can anyone recommend one of the above controllers over the > other? If so, for what reasons. Does the RAID 0+1 seem like the way to go? > Or should we go with something like RAID 5? > > The reason we aren't going with something like the DPT controllers is that > you have to boot to DOS to fix a failure... which isn't good imho. Any other > controller/setup recommendations are welcome.. > > TIA, > > Jason > > --- > Robert J. Adams radams@siscom.net http://www.siscom.net > Looking to outsource news? http://www.newshosting.com > SISCOM Network Administration - President, SISCOM Inc. > Phone: 888-4-SISCOM 937-222-8150 FAX: 937-222-8153 > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > -===================================================================- Jeremy Shaffner JORSM Internet Senior Technical Support Northwest Indiana's Premium jer@jorsm.com Internet Service Provider support@jorsm.com http://www.jorsm.com -===================================================================- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jan 22 16:20:49 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA09621 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 16:20:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from red.ligos.com (red.ligos.com [207.238.131.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA09615 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 16:20:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rwaldura@LIGOS.COM) Received: (qmail 4254 invoked from network); 23 Jan 1999 00:20:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO server.ligos.com) (192.168.1.2) by 192.168.1.6 with SMTP; 23 Jan 1999 00:20:31 -0000 Received: by server.ligos.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 16:20:31 -0800 Message-ID: <9141909996F1D011B8FF00A0C95A661B28E7E5@server.ligos.com> From: Renaud Waldura To: "'Richard Coleman'" Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Frontpage and/or Firewalls Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 16:20:29 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Question 2: There's a very good book: "Building Internet Firewall" by Chapman & Zwicky, O'Reilly. They use as an example the free Firewall Toolkit package (aka fwtk) by the TIS people, available at http://www.tis.com/. With TCP wrappers, natd, ipfw, etc. that's all you ever need. :) --Renaud > -----Original Message----- > From: Richard Coleman [SMTP:coleman@math.gatech.edu] > Sent: Thursday, January 21, 1999 7:46 AM > To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Frontpage and/or Firewalls > > I'm new to this list, so I apologize if there two questions > arise frequently. > > 1. We are trying to get the suexec program and the Frontpage > module play nice with each other on a FreeBSD boxy. Since > they are both wrappers, I need to get Apache to pick one or > the other to call. Has anyone done this? Is it better to > hack Apache or suexec? > > 2. We are looking into setting up a firewall box on FreeBSD (or > OpenBSD). I've been reading the standard books on firewalls, > but wondered if there are any web pages (or pieces of software) > geared toward setting up firewalls on BSD boxes. > > Thanks, > > Richard Coleman > coleman@math.gatech.edu > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jan 22 17:01:54 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA14220 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 17:01:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from loki.intrepid.net (intrepid.net [204.71.127.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA14214 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 17:01:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@intrepid.net) Received: (from mark@localhost) by loki.intrepid.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA08548 for freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 20:01:41 -0500 Message-ID: <19990122200141.A4461@intrepid.net> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 20:01:41 -0500 From: Mark Conway Wirt To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Introduction/ccd(4) Question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hey Folks, I run a mid-sized ISP in West Virginia/Maryland, and am looking at migrating some of our services to FreeBSD. We're currently a Linux shop, and I've heard nice things about the stability, performance, and security of FreeBSD. [Incidentally, I'd love to hear from anyone who's used both platforms to get your personal feelings -- feel free to email me privately if you don't want to clutter the list with advocacy messages.] I have two questions (I'll mail them in separate messages). First: Traditionally, we've run -- shall we say -- "monolithic" servers, i.e. $10,000, fully RAID-mirrored big servers for high availability. Of course we'll continue to do so for mission critical applications like mail, but I'm also considering putting together some mid-ranged machines for other purposes. For example, we have some customers who have expressed interest in on-line commerce, so I'd like to put a dedicated https server together, but I can't justify spending big bucks until I know that it can generate revenue. Enter ccd. Granted if a disk fails you'll have some down-time as you swap in new drives a rebuild the mirrors, but at least it's minimal and you have much less chance of loosing data than say from restoring from tape. I have a few questions about ccd though: 1) Are any of you ISP's using it, and it it stable? 2) I assume that the root partition can't be ccd. Correct? and 3) If a disk in a mirror set fails, does the ccd fail immediately, or can you unmount the device and rebuild gracefully? Sorry for being so long winded. I'll try to be more brief in the future ;-) --Mark -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jan 22 17:15:55 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA15757 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 17:15:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from loki.intrepid.net (intrepid.net [204.71.127.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA15752 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 17:15:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@intrepid.net) Received: (from mark@localhost) by loki.intrepid.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA10864; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 20:15:40 -0500 Message-ID: <19990122201539.C4461@intrepid.net> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 20:15:39 -0500 From: Mark Conway Wirt To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: chem@i-p-d.nl Subject: Re: cucipop virtual popservers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >5. restart sendmail > >killall -HUP sendmail > >and everything should work :) I've never seen HUP cause sendmail to re-read .cf or .cw files...I'm pretty sure you need to stop/start the daemon to do that. --Mark -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jan 22 17:25:08 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA17358 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 17:25:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA17352 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 17:25:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id LAA29085; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 11:54:51 +1030 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.2/8.9.0) id LAA27082; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 11:54:46 +1030 (CST) Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 11:54:46 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Mark Conway Wirt Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ccd and vinum (was: Introduction/ccd(4) Question) Message-ID: <19990123115446.A26886@freebie.lemis.com> References: <19990122200141.A4461@intrepid.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: <19990122200141.A4461@intrepid.net>; from Mark Conway Wirt on Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 08:01:41PM -0500 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Friday, 22 January 1999 at 20:01:41 -0500, Mark Conway Wirt wrote: > Traditionally, we've run -- shall we say -- "monolithic" servers, i.e. > $10,000, fully RAID-mirrored big servers for high availability. Of > course we'll continue to do so for mission critical applications like > mail, but I'm also considering putting together some mid-ranged > machines for other purposes. For example, we have some customers who > have expressed interest in on-line commerce, so I'd like to put a > dedicated https server together, but I can't justify spending big > bucks until I know that it can generate revenue. > > Enter ccd. ccd is on its way out, not in. > Granted if a disk fails you'll have some down-time as you swap in > new drives a rebuild the mirrors, but at least it's minimal and you > have much less chance of loosing data than say from restoring from > tape. In the cases I've seen, you need to reboot the machine, reconfigure ccd, recover manually, reconfigure ccd, possibly reboot, and then you're back up and running again. > I have a few questions about ccd though: > > 1) Are any of you ISP's using it, and it it stable? I don't use it, but I believe it's relatively stable. > 2) I assume that the root partition can't be ccd. Correct? and Correct. > 3) If a disk in a mirror set fails, does the ccd fail immediately, > or can you unmount the device and rebuild gracefully? ccd fails immediately. On the other hand, vinum does the right thing: if a drive fails, it will carry on running, and you can rebuild the volumes on line. Take a look at http://www.lemis.com/vinum.html. Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jan 22 17:31:23 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA18412 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 17:31:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA18395 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 17:31:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id MAA29174; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 12:00:38 +1030 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.2/8.9.0) id MAA27140; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 12:00:30 +1030 (CST) Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 12:00:30 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Mark Conway Wirt Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, chem@i-p-d.nl Subject: Re: cucipop virtual popservers Message-ID: <19990123120030.B26886@freebie.lemis.com> References: <19990122201539.C4461@intrepid.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: <19990122201539.C4461@intrepid.net>; from Mark Conway Wirt on Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 08:15:39PM -0500 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Friday, 22 January 1999 at 20:15:39 -0500, Mark Conway Wirt wrote: > >> 5. restart sendmail >> >> killall -HUP sendmail >> >> and everything should work :) > > I've never seen HUP cause sendmail to re-read .cf or .cw files...I'm > pretty sure you need to stop/start the daemon to do that. # kill -1 `cat /var/run/sendmail.pid ` Jan 23 11:58:26 freebie sendmail[188]: restarting /usr/sbin/sendmail on signal Jan 23 11:58:26 freebie sendmail[27101]: starting daemon (8.9.2): SMTP+queueing@00:30:00 # l -u /etc/sendmail.* -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 33134 Jan 23 11:58 /etc/sendmail.cf -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 26127 Jan 2 11:13 /etc/sendmail.cf.spam -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 17920 Jan 2 11:13 /etc/sendmail.cf.warty -rw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 138 Jan 23 11:58 /etc/sendmail.cw -rw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 120 Jan 22 21:28 /etc/sendmail.cw~ # date Sat Jan 23 11:58:54 CST 1999 Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jan 22 18:25:51 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA25037 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 18:25:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from amon.siol.net (amon.siol.net [193.189.160.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA25006 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 18:25:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tomaz.borstnar@over.net) Received: from hang ([193.189.191.195]) by amon.siol.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.1 release 219 ID# 620-58654U60000L60000S0V35) with SMTP id net; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 03:25:04 +0100 Message-Id: <4.1.19990123021329.00d0aee0@195.250.206.101> X-Misc: ... X-Mailer: Microsoft-outside-compatible Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 02:24:35 +0100 To: Troy Settle From: Tomaz Borstnar Subject: Re: more frontpage.... Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: References: <003801be44f1$b185dde0$0dcb2e9c@westbend.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 08:16 PM 1/21/99 , Troy Settle wrote the following message: >Odd, I just got done patching 1.3.4 with SSL-1.29, FP-3.0.4.2, and >PHP-3.0.6. I had to fake the SSL patch, but the rest built cleanly. > >I'm about to do a 'make install' and configure it, hope it works as well >as the last one did. Care to provide port? Many people would like it I presume. Tomaz ---- Tomaz Borstnar "Love is the answer to the final question you ask" - Unknown To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jan 22 18:36:03 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA26712 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 18:35:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.westbend.net (ns1.westbend.net [156.46.203.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA26690 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 18:35:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hetzels@westbend.net) Received: from admin (admin.westbend.net [156.46.203.13]) by mail.westbend.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA03290 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 20:35:18 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from hetzels@westbend.net) Message-ID: <00a301be4679$047339c0$0dcb2e9c@westbend.net> From: "Scot W. Hetzel" To: References: Subject: Re: more frontpage.... Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 20:35:17 -0600 Organization: West Bend Internet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2013.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2013.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org From: Jeff Lynch > On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, Andy Angrick wrote: > > > needs might not be there, i.e. AllowOverride All, etc..I had problems > > AllowOverride All? > Probably the minimum that the FrontPage Extensions needs is: AllowOverride AuthConfig Limit I'll check the port tonight and post a patch if the FrontPage Extensions work with these settings. Scot To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jan 22 19:01:08 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA29488 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 19:01:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from loki.intrepid.net (intrepid.net [204.71.127.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA29479 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 19:01:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@intrepid.net) Received: (from mark@localhost) by loki.intrepid.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA28874; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 22:00:45 -0500 Message-ID: <19990122220045.C26750@intrepid.net> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 22:00:45 -0500 From: Mark Conway Wirt To: Greg Lehey Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, chem@i-p-d.nl Subject: Re: cucipop virtual popservers References: <19990122201539.C4461@intrepid.net> <19990123120030.B26886@freebie.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 In-Reply-To: <19990123120030.B26886@freebie.lemis.com>; from Greg Lehey on Sat, Jan 23, 1999 at 12:00:30PM +1030 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Jan 23, 1999 at 12:00:30PM +1030, Greg Lehey wrote: > > # kill -1 `cat /var/run/sendmail.pid ` > Jan 23 11:58:26 freebie sendmail[188]: restarting /usr/sbin/sendmail on signal > Jan 23 11:58:26 freebie sendmail[27101]: starting daemon (8.9.2): SMTP ^^^^^ I'm running 8.8.8. Is this new behaviour for 8.9? --Mark To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jan 22 19:03:43 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA29903 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 19:03:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA29895 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 19:03:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id NAA29766; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 13:33:19 +1030 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.2/8.9.0) id NAA36632; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 13:33:17 +1030 (CST) Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 13:33:17 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Mark Conway Wirt Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, chem@i-p-d.nl Subject: Restarting sendmail (was: cucipop virtual popservers) Message-ID: <19990123133317.H26886@freebie.lemis.com> References: <19990122201539.C4461@intrepid.net> <19990123120030.B26886@freebie.lemis.com> <19990122220045.C26750@intrepid.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: <19990122220045.C26750@intrepid.net>; from Mark Conway Wirt on Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 10:00:45PM -0500 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Friday, 22 January 1999 at 22:00:45 -0500, Mark Conway Wirt wrote: > On Sat, Jan 23, 1999 at 12:00:30PM +1030, Greg Lehey wrote: >> >> # kill -1 `cat /var/run/sendmail.pid ` >> Jan 23 11:58:26 freebie sendmail[188]: restarting /usr/sbin/sendmail on signal >> Jan 23 11:58:26 freebie sendmail[27101]: starting daemon (8.9.2): SMTP > ^^^^^ > > I'm running 8.8.8. Is this new behaviour for 8.9? No. It's been around for as long as I can remember. One point that somebody made, however: I was cheating with the kill command. sendmail's pid file contains additional information, so this command produces the following error messages: kill: /usr/sbin/sendmail: no such pid kill: -bd: no such pid kill: -q30m: no such pid The correct command is kill -1 `head -1 /var/run/sendmail.pid ` Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jan 22 19:04:44 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA00402 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 19:04:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from loki.intrepid.net (intrepid.net [204.71.127.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA00382 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 19:04:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@intrepid.net) Received: (from mark@localhost) by loki.intrepid.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA29631; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 22:04:26 -0500 Message-ID: <19990122220426.D26750@intrepid.net> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 22:04:26 -0500 From: Mark Conway Wirt To: Greg Lehey Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ccd and vinum (was: Introduction/ccd(4) Question) References: <19990122200141.A4461@intrepid.net> <19990123115446.A26886@freebie.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 In-Reply-To: <19990123115446.A26886@freebie.lemis.com>; from Greg Lehey on Sat, Jan 23, 1999 at 11:54:46AM +1030 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Jan 23, 1999 at 11:54:46AM +1030, Greg Lehey wrote: > > > 3) If a disk in a mirror set fails, does the ccd fail immediately, > > or can you unmount the device and rebuild gracefully? > > ccd fails immediately. > > On the other hand, vinum does the right thing: if a drive fails, it > will carry on running, and you can rebuild the volumes on line. Take > a look at http://www.lemis.com/vinum.html. > I looked at vinum site when I started considering this project, , but was a little concerned that it's considered "beta." --Mark To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jan 22 19:06:46 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA01069 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 19:06:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA01062 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 19:06:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id NAA29794; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 13:36:31 +1030 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.2/8.9.0) id NAA36671; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 13:36:31 +1030 (CST) Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 13:36:30 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Mark Conway Wirt Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ccd and vinum (was: Introduction/ccd(4) Question) Message-ID: <19990123133630.J26886@freebie.lemis.com> References: <19990122200141.A4461@intrepid.net> <19990123115446.A26886@freebie.lemis.com> <19990122220426.D26750@intrepid.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: <19990122220426.D26750@intrepid.net>; from Mark Conway Wirt on Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 10:04:26PM -0500 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Friday, 22 January 1999 at 22:04:26 -0500, Mark Conway Wirt wrote: > On Sat, Jan 23, 1999 at 11:54:46AM +1030, Greg Lehey wrote: >> >>> 3) If a disk in a mirror set fails, does the ccd fail immediately, >>> or can you unmount the device and rebuild gracefully? >> >> ccd fails immediately. >> >> On the other hand, vinum does the right thing: if a drive fails, it >> will carry on running, and you can rebuild the volumes on line. Take >> a look at http://www.lemis.com/vinum.html. > > I looked at vinum site when I started considering this project, but > was a little concerned that it's considered "beta." It's all in the eye of the developer. I think that Vinum is at least as reliable as ccd. Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jan 22 19:42:42 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA05333 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 19:42:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from loki.intrepid.net (intrepid.net [204.71.127.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA05324 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 19:42:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@intrepid.net) Received: (from mark@localhost) by loki.intrepid.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA03619; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 22:42:20 -0500 Message-ID: <19990122224145.F26750@intrepid.net> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 22:42:19 -0500 From: Mark Conway Wirt To: Rowan Crowe Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cucipop virtual popservers References: <19990122201539.C4461@intrepid.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 In-Reply-To: ; from Rowan Crowe on Sat, Jan 23, 1999 at 02:22:23PM +1100 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Jan 23, 1999 at 02:22:23PM +1100, Rowan Crowe wrote: > > If sendmail has been invoked with the full path (ie /usr/sbin/sendmail -bd > -q30m) then -HUP will restart a new daemon and effectively re-read the > conf files. > > For some reason by default FreeBSD doesn't start it with the full path, so > this won't work normally. That would explain it. I'm running sendmail on a Linux box: case "$1" in start) # Start daemons. echo -n "Starting sendmail: " daemon sendmail -bd -q15m echo touch /var/lock/subsys/sendmail ;; (where the daemon fucntion basically strips out path info and starts the daemon). No path. --Mark -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jan 22 20:54:32 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA13515 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 20:54:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gjp.erols.com (alex-va-n008c079.moon.jic.com [206.156.18.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA13509 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 20:54:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gjp@gjp.erols.com) Received: from gjp.erols.com (localhost.erols.com [127.0.0.1]) by gjp.erols.com (8.9.1/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA34216; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 23:54:10 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gjp@gjp.erols.com) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: DUB@payserv.telekurs.com cc: radams@siscom.net, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: Building new mail system In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 22 Jan 1999 12:39:55 +0100." <36A8638B.5D09A4A5@Telekurs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 23:54:10 -0500 Message-ID: <34212.917067250@gjp.erols.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Bernhard Duebi wrote in message ID <36A8638B.5D09A4A5@Telekurs.com>: > Hi, > > I don't know the controllers, but if ever possible avoid Raid 5. It's slow. I > think Raid 0+1 is the way to go. Thats a very biased statement. RAID5 is fine (should in theory be identical) as RAID0 for reads. Yes, writes have a penalty, but I think that very much depends on the application. Yes, performance degrades if you lose a drive and you go into rebuild mode onto a spare, but hey, guess what, mirrors do too :) Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jan 22 21:44:39 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA17479 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 21:44:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.westbend.net (ns1.westbend.net [156.46.203.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA17471 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 21:44:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hetzels@westbend.net) Received: from admin (admin.westbend.net [156.46.203.13]) by mail.westbend.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA04039 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 23:44:22 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from hetzels@westbend.net) Message-ID: <000c01be4693$6e0dfd60$0dcb2e9c@westbend.net> From: "Scot W. Hetzel" To: References: <00a301be4679$047339c0$0dcb2e9c@westbend.net> Subject: Re: more frontpage.... Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 23:44:22 -0600 Organization: West Bend Internet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2013.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2013.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org From: Scot W. Hetzel > From: Jeff Lynch > > On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, Andy Angrick wrote: > > > > > needs might not be there, i.e. AllowOverride All, etc..I had problems > > > > AllowOverride All? > > > Probably the minimum that the FrontPage Extensions needs is: > > AllowOverride AuthConfig Limit > OK, the minimum that the FrontPage Extensions needs are: AllowOverride AuthConfig Limit Indexes Options I'll be submitting a patch for this a little later for the Apache13-FP port. Scot To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jan 22 23:08:03 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA25275 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 23:08:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rs4s1.datacenter.cha.cantv.net (rs4s1.datacenter.cha.cantv.net [200.44.32.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA25256; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 23:07:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lem@cantv.net) Received: from 200.44.8.236 (tc2r9-236.ras.cha.cantv.net [200.44.8.236]) by rs4s1.datacenter.cha.cantv.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1/1.0) with SMTP id DAA15171; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 03:07:40 -0400 (VET) Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 03:07:40 -0400 (VET) Message-Id: <199901230707.DAA15171@rs4s1.datacenter.cha.cantv.net> From: "Luis E. Munoz" To: "Gary Palmer" DUB@payserv.telekurs.com Cc: radams@siscom.net, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Re: Building new mail system X-Mailer: Top Gun Postman version 1.2 beta for USR PalmPilot X-URL: http://www.isaac.cs.berkeley.edu/pilot/TGpostman/ Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Gary Palmer" wrote on 22/1/99 23:54: >Bernhard Duebi wrote in >message ID ><36A8638B.5D09A4A5@Tele >kurs.com>: >> Hi, >> >> I don't know the >controllers, but if ever >possible avoid Raid 5. It's >slow. I >> think Raid 0+1 is the way >to go. > >Thats a very biased >statement. RAID5 is fine >(should in theory be >identical) >as RAID0 for reads. Yes, >writes have a penalty, but I >think that very much >depends on the application. >Yes, performance degrades >if you lose a drive and >you go into rebuild mode >onto a spare, but hey, guess >what, mirrors do too :) In addition to this, many contemporary controllers have pretty decent caching in battery-backed memory. This helps a lot while a member is lost. Another plus on the 0+1, also called 10, is that it can tolerate *some* failure scenarios where more than a single member dies. My advice is to go witu 0+1 if you have the budget. -- -lem To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jan 23 01:52:03 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA07847 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 01:52:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from xwin.nmhtech.com (xwin.nmhtech.com [208.138.46.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA07825 for ; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 01:51:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nicole@xwin.nmhtech.com) Received: by xwin.nmhtech.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 53AD62EE1A; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 01:51:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.2 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 01:51:33 -0800 (PST) From: Nicole Harrington To: Jeremy Shaffner Subject: Re: Building new mail system Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id BAA07838 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Hello all, > > We're putting together a new box to handle mail.. thought I would pick your > brains a little for advice. Hopefully someone has done this already. > > We are planning on using 4x9gig Cheetahs in a RAID 0+1 configuration.. > Currently we are looking at two RAID-RAID controllers. > > 1) Mylex 2 CHANNEL RAID W-U SCSI DACSXI > 2) CMD CRD-5440 or CRD-5500's > > Few questions.. can anyone recommend one of the above controllers over the > other? If so, for what reasons. Does the RAID 0+1 seem like the way to go? > Or should we go with something like RAID 5? > > The reason we aren't going with something like the DPT controllers is that > you have to boot to DOS to fix a failure... which isn't good imho. Any other > controller/setup recommendations are welcome.. > > TIA, > > Jason > I personaly recomend the infortrend SCSI-SCSI RAID unit. We use LOTS of them in RAID 5 and RAID 1 and they are great. I tested them up against the Mylex and they blew it away. Hot swap spares and online rebuilds... They rock. One caveat is that if you use the Adaptec 2940 card, disable (I think) "allow disconnects." www.infortrend.com Nicole > > > -===================================================================- > Jeremy Shaffner JORSM Internet > Senior Technical Support Northwest Indiana's Premium > jer@jorsm.com Internet Service Provider > support@jorsm.com http://www.jorsm.com > -===================================================================- > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message |\ __ /| (`\ | o_o |__ ) ) // \\ nicole@nmhtech.com | http://www.webweaver.net/ webmistress@dangermouse.org | http://www.dangermouse.org -------------------------(((---(((----------------------- - Powered by Coka Cola and FreeBSD - - Stong enough for a man - But made for a Woman - - I'm not ADD - I'm just MultiThreaded - - Microsoft: What bug would you like today? - ---------------------------------------------------------- SYSADMIN(1) Sysadmin is the keeper of all things computer, is generally harangued, must be supplied with caffine, chocolate, and sushi in order to function properly, cannot be exposed to direct sunlight, and must not be allowed to have a life. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jan 23 02:40:26 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA11275 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 02:40:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.palnet.com (mail.palnet.com [192.116.16.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA11268 for ; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 02:40:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rjebara@palnet.com) Received: from localhost (rjebara@localhost) by mail.palnet.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA24858; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 12:39:41 +0200 (IST) Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 12:39:41 +0200 (IST) From: Rami Abu Jebara To: Mark Conway Wirt cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, chem@i-p-d.nl Subject: Re: cucipop virtual popservers In-Reply-To: <19990122201539.C4461@intrepid.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org that is right if sendmail was started as a daemon /usr/sbin/sendmail -bd -q30m (for example) then a killall -HUP should cause it to reread the config files .. do a "man signal" and/or "man kill" for more info it always worked for me .. hope this helped :) cheers Rami **************************** Rami Abu Jebara Technical Director Palnet Communications Ltd e-mail : rjebara@palnet.com Tel: ++ 972 2 583 5666 Fax: ++ 972 2 583 6354 w w w . p a l n e t . c o m On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, Mark Conway Wirt wrote: > > >5. restart sendmail > > > >killall -HUP sendmail > > > >and everything should work :) > > I've never seen HUP cause sendmail to re-read .cf or .cw files...I'm > pretty sure you need to stop/start the daemon to do that. > > --Mark > -- > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jan 23 03:57:54 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA19896 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 03:57:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nhj.nlc.net.au (nhj.nlc.net.au [203.24.133.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA19887 for ; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 03:57:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from john.saunders@nlc.net.au) Received: (qmail 25304 invoked by uid 1000); 23 Jan 1999 22:57:29 +1100 Date: 23 Jan 1999 22:57:29 +1100 Message-ID: <19990123115729.25303.qmail@nhj.nlc.net.au> From: "John Saunders" To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ccd and vinum X-Newsgroups: nlc.lists.freebsd-isp In-Reply-To: <19990123115446.A26886@freebie.lemis.com> User-Agent: tin/pre-1.4-980818 ("Laura") (UNIX) (Linux/2.0.36 (i686)) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Greg Lehey wrote: > ccd is on its way out, not in. As long as it hangs around long enough for me to figure out how to configure vinum (and to compile a RELENG_3 kernel without errors when vinum is included) I will be happy. >> Granted if a disk fails you'll have some down-time as you swap in >> new drives a rebuild the mirrors, but at least it's minimal and you >> have much less chance of loosing data than say from restoring from >> tape. > In the cases I've seen, you need to reboot the machine, reconfigure > ccd, recover manually, reconfigure ccd, possibly reboot, and then > you're back up and running again. I have a system where I ran remove the failed drive and be back running in an un-mirror configuration pretty quickly. However once I source a replacement drive there is about 40 minutes downtime to sync the new disk up. Rebuild in background would be a real time saver. >> 1) Are any of you ISP's using it, and it it stable? > I don't use it, but I believe it's relatively stable. Yes on 2 servers. At a remote POP I have one machine running modems, mail, news cache and http cache, using ccd to mirror two 4.5GB drives. Another machine is a http cache with a couple of drives with a 128 sector strip. I can get a sustained 7.5MB/sec to Quantum Fireball IDE drives. Reliability isn't an issue, it just runs. >> 2) I assume that the root partition can't be ccd. Correct? and > Correct. Can it be with vinum? That would be interesting. Currently I have to remember to manually sync up the root filesystems if I change them. I looked into it some time back. It is probably possible to have a ccd root filesystem if you hack a kernel to do the equivalent of ccdconfig and then get it to mount the ccd device as root. Although it would require substantial code hacking. > On the other hand, vinum does the right thing: if a drive fails, it > will carry on running, and you can rebuild the volumes on line. Take > a look at http://www.lemis.com/vinum.html. Sounds really good, if I can get the $%^$& thing to compile I will be happy. :-) Cheers. -- +------------------------------------------------------------+ . | John Saunders - mailto:john@nlc.net.au (EMail) | ,--_|\ | - http://www.nlc.net.au/ (WWW) | / Oz \ | - 02-9489-4932 or 041-822-3814 (Phone) | \_,--\_/ | NHJ NORTHLINK COMMUNICATIONS - Supplying a professional, | v | and above all friendly, internet connection service. | +------------------------------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jan 23 08:52:25 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA20765 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 08:52:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cscfx.sytex.com (cscfx.sytex.com [205.147.190.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA20730 for ; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 08:52:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rwc@cscfx.sytex.com) Received: (from rwc@localhost) by cscfx.sytex.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) id LAA28638 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 11:52:14 -0500 From: Richard Cramer Message-Id: <199901231652.LAA28638@cscfx.sytex.com> Subject: Still Looking - ISP local to Bradenton, FL To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 11:52:14 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: rcramer@sytex.net X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello to everyone, I am still looking for a ISP local to Bradenton, FL (Sarasota, etc). Please email re: an local account. Thanks, Dick -- Richard Cramer rcramer@sytex.net Phone: 703-425-2515 President Fax: 703-425-4585 SytexNet(tm) Sytex Access Ltd. POB 2385, Fairfax, VA 22031-0385 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jan 23 08:56:51 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA21448 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 08:56:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from server03.net-all.com.br (server-03.net-all.com.br [200.245.195.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA21441 for ; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 08:56:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jcds@brasmail.com.br) Message-Id: <199901231656.IAA21441@hub.freebsd.org> Received: from server03 (server03.net-all.com.br [127.0.0.1]) by server03.net-all.com.br (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-0U10L2S100V35) with SMTP id br for ; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 14:56:28 -0200 From: "Jose Carlos da Silva" Organization: ALLNET! Internet To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 14:56:28 -0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Problems with SendMail relay setup Reply-to: jcds@brasmail.com.br X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear listers, I am running SendMail 8.9.1 in a FreeBSD 2.2.7 box. I would like that this machine to server as a mail relay server for several domains. I've setup my MX DNS record for a test domain to point to the machine running SendMail and I've enabled the FEATURE(relay_based_on_mx) which makes SendMail to accept mail for domains where the MX record points to it. With this setup, SendMail accepts messages destinated to that domain successfully. Once I want the messages to be forwarded to another host, I've also enabled the FEATURE(mailertable) to define to where SendMail should send mail for each domain. It's also working ok for my test domain. If I try to send a message trough SendMail, using a sender address of the test domain and a destination address of an external domain, I am disconnected by SendMail with the message "Relaying denied". If I add this domain name to the file "/etc/sendmail.cw", SendMail accepts the message but forward it to a local username instead of respecting the mailertable rules I've created. If I add this domain name to the "/etc/mail/relay-domains" file, it makes no difference for SendMail. If I enable FEATURE(access_db) and add this domain name to the "/etc/mail/access.db" file using "makemap", SendMail continues to reject mail from this domain. As you can see, I've also researched a lot about the problem. Now, sendmail is successfully accepting mail for the domain and forwarding it to the correct host. All I need is to make SendMail to RELAY mail when the sender address is from this domain, without restricting the originating IP address of the connection, because I cannot guarantee the network from where my customer will try to connect to my SendMail server. Can anybody help me, please? Regards, o-----------------( Jose Carlos da Silva )-----------------o | Administrador de Rede - WebMaster - jcds@brasmail.com.br | | ALLNET! Provedor Internet http://www.allnet.com.br | | Brasmail Internet Services http://www.brasmail.com.br | | Sao Paulo - SP - Brasil Fone: (011)3061-0088 | o----------------------------------------------------------o (Menstruacao e' ruim, mas o pior e' quando ela nao vem.) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jan 23 13:13:08 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA16282 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 13:13:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mailhub.ainet.com (mailhub.ainet.com [204.30.40.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA16277 for ; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 13:13:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jmscott@ainet.com) Received: from shell.ainet.com (jmscott@shell.ainet.com [204.30.40.108]) by mailhub.ainet.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA04219; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 13:12:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost by shell.ainet.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA13090; for chem@i-p-d.nl; Sat, 23 Jan 99 13:14:59 PST Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 13:14:59 -0800 (PST) From: "Joseph M. Scott" To: Mark Conway Wirt Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, chem@i-p-d.nl Subject: Re: cucipop virtual popservers In-Reply-To: <19990122201539.C4461@intrepid.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, Mark Conway Wirt wrote: > > >5. restart sendmail > > > >killall -HUP sendmail > > > >and everything should work :) > > I've never seen HUP cause sendmail to re-read .cf or .cw files...I'm > pretty sure you need to stop/start the daemon to do that. I don't recall which version it was, but the HUP was made to work, it even gets a new pid, so what ever it's doing, it's really restarting :-) I know that 8.9.x works with HUP. > > --Mark > -- * Joseph M. Scott * jmscott@ainet.com * American InfoMetrics * Modesto, CA To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jan 23 13:23:44 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA17465 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 13:23:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mailhub.ainet.com (mailhub.ainet.com [204.30.40.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA17457 for ; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 13:23:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jmscott@ainet.com) Received: from shell.ainet.com (jmscott@shell.ainet.com [204.30.40.108]) by mailhub.ainet.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA04304; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 13:23:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost by shell.ainet.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA13746; for freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG; Sat, 23 Jan 99 13:25:45 PST Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 13:25:44 -0800 (PST) From: "Joseph M. Scott" To: Jose Carlos da Silva Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problems with SendMail relay setup In-Reply-To: <199901231656.IAA21441@hub.freebsd.org> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 23 Jan 1999, Jose Carlos da Silva wrote: > Dear listers, > If I enable FEATURE(access_db) and add this domain name to the > "/etc/mail/access.db" file using "makemap", SendMail continues to > reject mail from this domain. > If I'm understanding this correctly the access_db feature is what you want. Can you provide a sample of what your's looks like? What I've been using ( my situation isn't exactly the same as your though ) is something like the following : customerdomain.com RELAY I wonder if you are using an OK if that would cause it to fail with a relaying denied. Hummm. * Joseph M. Scott * jmscott@ainet.com * American InfoMetrics * Modesto, CA To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jan 23 13:32:12 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA18867 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 13:32:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from server03.net-all.com.br (server-03.net-all.com.br [200.245.195.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA18861 for ; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 13:32:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jcds@brasmail.com.br) Message-Id: <199901232132.NAA18861@hub.freebsd.org> Received: from server03 (server03.net-all.com.br [127.0.0.1]) by server03.net-all.com.br (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-0U10L2S100V35) with SMTP id br; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 19:31:58 -0200 From: "Jose Carlos da Silva" Organization: ALLNET! Internet To: "Joseph M. Scott" Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 19:31:57 -0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Problems with SendMail relay setup Reply-to: jcds@brasmail.com.br CC: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG References: <199901231656.IAA21441@hub.freebsd.org> In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Joseph, Em 23 Jan 99, voce escreveu: > If I'm understanding this correctly the access_db feature is what > you want. Can you provide a sample of what your's looks like? What I've > been using ( my situation isn't exactly the same as your though ) is > something like the following : Now, my access.db has only REJECT records related to SPAMMERS, but I've tried an "OK" one for my test domain without sucess. > customerdomain.com RELAY > > I wonder if you are using an OK if that would cause it to fail with a > relaying denied. Hummm. Is there any difference between using RELAY or OK in this field? Well, I will try with RELAY and I tell you if something changes. Regards, o-----------------( Jose Carlos da Silva )-----------------o | Administrador de Rede - WebMaster - jcds@brasmail.com.br | | ALLNET! Provedor Internet http://www.allnet.com.br | | Brasmail Internet Services http://www.brasmail.com.br | | Sao Paulo - SP - Brasil Fone: (011)3061-0088 | o----------------------------------------------------------o (O bom de usar dentadura e' poder escovar os dentes e cantar.) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jan 23 14:12:18 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA23186 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 14:12:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from super-g.inch.com (super-g.com [207.240.140.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA23178 for ; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 14:12:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from spork@super-g.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by super-g.inch.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA07612; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 17:11:11 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 17:11:10 -0500 (EST) From: spork X-Sender: spork@super-g.inch.com To: Robert Adams cc: qmail@list.cr.yp.to, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Building new mail system In-Reply-To: <038501be45b7$45a7a920$2802fbd1@mp.siscom.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I would stay away from the CMD product. It seems pretty nice, but we've been holding up a similar migration for a few months because CMD cannot help us figure out why the controller "disappears" for a few minutes now and again. We`re running 2.2x with CAM. The mylex is used in wcarchive, and I believe it may be the better candidate just because it's in active use and there are no "unsupported OS" issues. See related thread on freebsd-scsi... Look for "5440" and "spork". Charles --- Charles Sprickman spork@super-g.com --- On Thu, 21 Jan 1999, Robert Adams wrote: > Hello all, > > We're putting together a new box to handle mail.. thought I would pick your > brains a little for advice. Hopefully someone has done this already. > > We are planning on using 4x9gig Cheetahs in a RAID 0+1 configuration.. > Currently we are looking at two RAID-RAID controllers. > > 1) Mylex 2 CHANNEL RAID W-U SCSI DACSXI > 2) CMD CRD-5440 or CRD-5500's > > Few questions.. can anyone recommend one of the above controllers over the > other? If so, for what reasons. Does the RAID 0+1 seem like the way to go? > Or should we go with something like RAID 5? > > The reason we aren't going with something like the DPT controllers is that > you have to boot to DOS to fix a failure... which isn't good imho. Any other > controller/setup recommendations are welcome.. > > TIA, > > Jason > > --- > Robert J. Adams radams@siscom.net http://www.siscom.net > Looking to outsource news? http://www.newshosting.com > SISCOM Network Administration - President, SISCOM Inc. > Phone: 888-4-SISCOM 937-222-8150 FAX: 937-222-8153 > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jan 23 16:19:37 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA08173 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 16:19:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA08163 for ; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 16:19:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id KAA03580; Sun, 24 Jan 1999 10:49:20 +1030 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.2/8.9.0) id KAA39199; Sun, 24 Jan 1999 10:49:15 +1030 (CST) Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 10:49:15 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: John Saunders Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ccd and vinum Message-ID: <19990124104915.H36690@freebie.lemis.com> References: <19990123115446.A26886@freebie.lemis.com> <19990123115729.25303.qmail@nhj.nlc.net.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: <19990123115729.25303.qmail@nhj.nlc.net.au>; from John Saunders on Sat, Jan 23, 1999 at 10:57:29PM +1100 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Saturday, 23 January 1999 at 22:57:29 +1100, John Saunders wrote: > Greg Lehey wrote: >> ccd is on its way out, not in. > > As long as it hangs around long enough for me to figure out how to > configure vinum (and to compile a RELENG_3 kernel without errors > when vinum is included) I will be happy. vinum is included in 3.0. All you need is a ``make world''. If you're having problems with the configuration, let me know what they are. >>> 2) I assume that the root partition can't be ccd. Correct? and >> Correct. > > Can it be with vinum? That would be interesting. It's planned, but not there yet. It will probably only happen with the new bootstrap. > Currently I have to remember to manually sync up the root > filesystems if I change them. How do you do that? > I looked into it some time back. It is probably possible to have a > ccd root filesystem if you hack a kernel to do the equivalent of > ccdconfig and then get it to mount the ccd device as root. Although > it would require substantial code hacking. It's not as simple as that. The bootstrap takes a device name, and you can only mount the root file system on that device. >> On the other hand, vinum does the right thing: if a drive fails, it >> will carry on running, and you can rebuild the volumes on line. Take >> a look at http://www.lemis.com/vinum.html. > > Sounds really good, if I can get the $%^$& thing to compile I will be > happy. :-) You must be doing something wrong. Which version (FreeBSD and vinum) are you using? Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jan 23 16:56:55 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA11988 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 16:56:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nhj.nlc.net.au (nhj.nlc.net.au [203.24.133.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA11982 for ; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 16:56:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from john.saunders@nlc.net.au) Received: (qmail 15960 invoked by uid 1000); 24 Jan 1999 11:56:39 +1100 From: "John Saunders" Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 11:56:39 +1100 (EST) To: Greg Lehey cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ccd and vinum In-Reply-To: <19990124104915.H36690@freebie.lemis.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 24 Jan 1999, Greg Lehey wrote: > On Saturday, 23 January 1999 at 22:57:29 +1100, John Saunders wrote: > > As long as it hangs around long enough for me to figure out how to > > configure vinum (and to compile a RELENG_3 kernel without errors > > when vinum is included) I will be happy. > > vinum is included in 3.0. All you need is a ``make world''. If > you're having problems with the configuration, let me know what they > are. Just trying to get my head around the concepts of what a plex is and the way the documentation calls what I know as a partition, a subdisk. Also I think the documentation has the slice and partition concepts swapped from the way everything else on FreeBSD seems to work. For example "Unlike standard disk partitions, a Vinum volume is not subdivided into slices," But I thought is was the slices subdivided into partitions. i.e. wd0s1 (i.e. slice 1) is disklabeled into partitions a b e f g. > > Currently I have to remember to manually sync up the root > > filesystems if I change them. > > How do you do that? echo "Copying the root filesystem (wd0s1a) to the mirror root filesystem (wd2s1a)." echo "This could take 30 seconds or more, please wait..." dd if=/dev/rwd0s1a of=/dev/wd2s1a bs=65536 sync ; sync ; sync fsck -y /dev/rwd2s1a sync ; sync ; sync > > I looked into it some time back. It is probably possible to have a > > ccd root filesystem if you hack a kernel to do the equivalent of > > ccdconfig and then get it to mount the ccd device as root. Although > > it would require substantial code hacking. > > It's not as simple as that. The bootstrap takes a device name, and > you can only mount the root file system on that device. It's possible to mount CD filesystems, MFS, NFS as root (check out /sys/i386/i386/autoconf.c). I don't see why it wouldn't be possible to hack this code around to doing something with ccd. Although you would have to load the kernel image from something like a floppy or CD because the boot strap probably couldn't access /kernel on the mirrored root device. > You must be doing something wrong. Which version (FreeBSD and vinum) > are you using? It was cvsupped about 5 or 6 days ago. I've been trying to get the lastest for a while but all of the cvsup*.freebsd.org servers are completely full at the moment. So I can't check if any commits have been made. Script started on Sun Jan 24 11:23:36 1999 sh-2.02# config -r PACER Removing old directory ../../compile/PACER: Done. Don't forget to do a ``make depend'' Kernel build directory is ../../compile/PACER sh-2.02# cd ../../compile/PACER sh-2.02# make depend [snip] ../../dev/vinum/vinumio.c:44: vinumhdr.h: No such file or directory ../../dev/vinum/vinumio.c:45: request.h: No such file or directory mkdep: compile failed *** Error code 1 Stop. Cheers. -- +------------------------------------------------------------+ . | John Saunders - mailto:john@nlc.net.au (EMail) | ,--_|\ | - http://www.nlc.net.au/ (WWW) | / Oz \ | - 02-9489-4932 or 041-822-3814 (Phone) | \_,--\_/ | NHJ NORTHLINK COMMUNICATIONS - Supplying a professional, | v | and above all friendly, internet connection service. | +------------------------------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jan 23 17:09:05 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA13555 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 17:09:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA13537 for ; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 17:08:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id LAA03768; Sun, 24 Jan 1999 11:38:45 +1030 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.2/8.9.0) id LAA39428; Sun, 24 Jan 1999 11:38:45 +1030 (CST) Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 11:38:45 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: John Saunders Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ccd and vinum Message-ID: <19990124113845.L36690@freebie.lemis.com> References: <19990124104915.H36690@freebie.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: ; from John Saunders on Sun, Jan 24, 1999 at 11:56:39AM +1100 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sunday, 24 January 1999 at 11:56:39 +1100, John Saunders wrote: > On Sun, 24 Jan 1999, Greg Lehey wrote: > >> On Saturday, 23 January 1999 at 22:57:29 +1100, John Saunders wrote: >>> As long as it hangs around long enough for me to figure out how to >>> configure vinum (and to compile a RELENG_3 kernel without errors >>> when vinum is included) I will be happy. >> >> vinum is included in 3.0. All you need is a ``make world''. If >> you're having problems with the configuration, let me know what they >> are. > > Just trying to get my head around the concepts of what a plex is and the > way the documentation calls what I know as a partition, a subdisk. Also I > think the documentation has the slice and partition concepts swapped from > the way everything else on FreeBSD seems to work. For example "Unlike > standard disk partitions, a Vinum volume is not subdivided into slices," > But I thought is was the slices subdivided into partitions. i.e. wd0s1 > (i.e. slice 1) is disklabeled into partitions a b e f g. Where does this come from? It's not in the current documentation. >>> Currently I have to remember to manually sync up the root >>> filesystems if I change them. >> >> How do you do that? > > echo "Copying the root filesystem (wd0s1a) to the mirror root filesystem (wd2s1a)." > echo "This could take 30 seconds or more, please wait..." > dd if=/dev/rwd0s1a of=/dev/wd2s1a bs=65536 > sync ; sync ; sync > fsck -y /dev/rwd2s1a > sync ; sync ; sync Ah. I thought you were binding them into a ccd. >>> I looked into it some time back. It is probably possible to have a >>> ccd root filesystem if you hack a kernel to do the equivalent of >>> ccdconfig and then get it to mount the ccd device as root. Although >>> it would require substantial code hacking. >> >> It's not as simple as that. The bootstrap takes a device name, and >> you can only mount the root file system on that device. > > It's possible to mount CD filesystems, MFS, NFS as root (check out > /sys/i386/i386/autoconf.c). I don't see why it wouldn't be possible to > hack this code around to doing something with ccd. Although you would have > to load the kernel image from something like a floppy or CD because the > boot strap probably couldn't access /kernel on the mirrored root device. That's on of the problems. In fact, if one of the plexes of the root file system is concatenated, you could initially mount it as a file system, and that's currently what I'm planning to do. >> You must be doing something wrong. Which version (FreeBSD and vinum) >> are you using? > > It was cvsupped about 5 or 6 days ago. I've been trying to get the lastest > for a while but all of the cvsup*.freebsd.org servers are completely full > at the moment. So I can't check if any commits have been made. > > Script started on Sun Jan 24 11:23:36 1999 > sh-2.02# config -r PACER > Removing old directory ../../compile/PACER: Done. > Don't forget to do a ``make depend'' > Kernel build directory is ../../compile/PACER > sh-2.02# cd ../../compile/PACER > sh-2.02# make depend > [snip] > ../../dev/vinum/vinumio.c:44: vinumhdr.h: No such file or directory > ../../dev/vinum/vinumio.c:45: request.h: No such file or directory > mkdep: compile failed > *** Error code 1 Ah. You're configuring it into the kernel. Don't do that. Use the kld. In fact, all you need to do, with a 3.0-STABLE kernel, is to start vinum(8), and it'll do the rest for you. Static configuration is untested and deprecated, but I'm told it now works. I've never used it myself. Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jan 23 18:37:49 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA24104 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 18:37:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Radford.i-Plus.net (radford.i-plus.net [209.100.20.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA24099 for ; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 18:37:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rewt@i-Plus.net) Received: from Radford.i-Plus.net (rewt@www.i-plus.net [209.100.20.4]) by Radford.i-Plus.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA07744; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 21:37:24 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 21:37:24 -0500 (EST) From: Troy Settle To: Tomaz Borstnar cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: more frontpage.... In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990123021329.00d0aee0@195.250.206.101> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 23 Jan 1999, Tomaz Borstnar wrote: > At 08:16 PM 1/21/99 , Troy Settle wrote the following message: > > >Odd, I just got done patching 1.3.4 with SSL-1.29, FP-3.0.4.2, and > >PHP-3.0.6. I had to fake the SSL patch, but the rest built cleanly. > > > >I'm about to do a 'make install' and configure it, hope it works as well > >as the last one did. > Care to provide port? Many people would like it I presume. > Unfortunately, I haven't the first clue on how to create a port in the FreeBSD tradition, and I don't really have time right now. I will consider finding the time to do it, but don't hold your breath. I also ran into some snags after installing and configuring. I'm getting a bus error, and haven't tracked it down yet. I'm going to tackle this again next week, and will try to keep a detailed log of everything I do, and post it if there's interest (no promises though). Here's the steps I went through to get this to work on older versions of everything: 1. Build, install, and configure MySQL 2. Build and install SSLeay 9.0 3. Unpack Apache 1.3.4 4. Unpack Ben-SSL 1.29, then apply patch (had to manually do some of this) 5. Apply frontpage patch (3.0.4.2 went in cleanly) 6. run a configure 7. Unpack, configure, build, and install PHP 3.0.6 8. re-configure apache, activating PHP and FP 9. build and install apache 10. create a basic httpd.conf file (need to redo this for 1.3.4 I guess) 11. install FrontPage 12. Run httpsd and test it -- Troy Settle Network Administrator, iPlus Internet Services http://www.i-Plus.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jan 23 19:59:14 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA03688 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 19:59:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA03681 for ; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 19:59:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id OAA10786; Sun, 24 Jan 1999 14:28:54 +1030 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.2/8.9.0) id OAA46467; Sun, 24 Jan 1999 14:28:41 +1030 (CST) Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 14:28:41 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Mark Conway Wirt Cc: Rowan Crowe , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cucipop virtual popservers Message-ID: <19990124142841.U36690@freebie.lemis.com> References: <19990122201539.C4461@intrepid.net> <19990122224145.F26750@intrepid.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: <19990122224145.F26750@intrepid.net>; from Mark Conway Wirt on Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 10:42:19PM -0500 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Friday, 22 January 1999 at 22:42:19 -0500, Mark Conway Wirt wrote: > On Sat, Jan 23, 1999 at 02:22:23PM +1100, Rowan Crowe wrote: >> >> If sendmail has been invoked with the full path (ie /usr/sbin/sendmail -bd >> -q30m) then -HUP will restart a new daemon and effectively re-read the >> conf files. >> >> For some reason by default FreeBSD doesn't start it with the full path, so >> this won't work normally. > > That would explain it. Somehow I missed this. The latest versions of FreeBSD do start it with a full path. It's in /etc/rc: if [ "X${sendmail_enable}" = X"YES" -a -r /etc/sendmail.cf ]; then echo -n ' sendmail'; /usr/sbin/sendmail ${sendmail_flags} fi Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jan 23 20:50:44 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA09507 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 20:50:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from po1.namesecure.com (po1.namesecure.com [205.229.232.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA09502 for ; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 20:50:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from patrick@namesecure.com) Received: (qmail 22252 invoked by uid 100); 24 Jan 1999 04:50:33 -0000 Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 20:50:33 -0800 (PST) From: Patrick Greenwell To: spork cc: Robert Adams , qmail@list.cr.yp.to, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Building new mail system In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 23 Jan 1999, spork wrote: > I would stay away from the CMD product. It seems pretty nice, but we've > been holding up a similar migration for a few months because CMD cannot > help us figure out why the controller "disappears" for a few minutes now > and again. We`re running 2.2x with CAM. Did you ever consider that that might be your problem, as CAM is constantly being worked on and AFAIK isn't being back-ported to 2.2.X? I'm running a couple of CMD based boxes hooked to BSDi boxen and they run flawlessly... /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ Coming to the ISPF-II? The Forum for ISPs by ISPs http://www.ispf.com (tinc) \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jan 23 22:45:11 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA21389 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 22:45:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from super-g.inch.com (super-g.com [207.240.140.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA21373 for ; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 22:45:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from spork@super-g.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by super-g.inch.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA29367; Sun, 24 Jan 1999 01:43:41 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 01:43:41 -0500 (EST) From: spork X-Sender: spork@super-g.inch.com To: Patrick Greenwell cc: Robert Adams , qmail@list.cr.yp.to, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Building new mail system In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 23 Jan 1999, Patrick Greenwell wrote: > Did you ever consider that that might be your problem, as CAM is > constantly being worked on and AFAIK isn't being back-ported to 2.2.X? Oh, did I ever ;) After some email exchanges with one of the CAM folks though, I'm pretty confident that cam is a much more stable choice than the old drivers for the adaptec card I'm using. The stock drivers couldn't even find a second partition on the CMD even with the LUNs wired down in the kernel config. Some informal benchmarking also confirms that performance is greatly enhanced, especially when you have many reads and writes cued up on a busy system. I'm running patches specifically for the 2.2 branch at this time. I believe there will be a final version sometime this month. I've also found that the CMD only handles a total of 64 tagged commands, which is less than the Mylex which I believe has double that. > I'm running a couple of CMD based boxes hooked to BSDi boxen and they run > flawlessly... Yep, one of the things that sold me was the praise from people already using them. Also I think CMD is the only one that has all the RAID 5 math done in an ASIC, which is probably speedier than the i960 the mylex uses. Then again, it seems the walnut creek folks have had excellent results with their mylex or wcarchive. I also have a quick question for you: What controller are you using? If it's an Adaptec, is disconnection enabled or disabled? I believe the default is enabled. Thanks, Charles > > /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ > Coming to the ISPF-II? The Forum for ISPs by ISPs http://www.ispf.com > (tinc) > \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message