From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Aug 8 9:34:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from etinc.com (et-gw.etinc.com [207.252.1.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8B1C14BB8; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 09:34:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dennis@etinc.com) Received: from workstation.etinc.com (port34.netsvr1.cst.vastnet.net [207.252.73.34]) by etinc.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA02351; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 12:26:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199908081626.MAA02351@etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@mail.etinc.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 00:41:13 -0400 To: hackers@freebsd.org From: Dennis Subject: Routing Table Memory Cc: isp@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org What flavor of memory tuning can be used to figure out how much the routing table will have (and what tool can be used to monitor it, other than the total usage shown in vmstat)? A machine with 64M refuses to allocate more than ~10M (about 36K routes) no matter how many users or clusters are allocated. NetBSD systems have no trouble holding full tables (17M) in a 64k system. Not that 128M is so expensive, but I'd like to know how to optimize it for more efficient usage of memory. Dennis To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Aug 8 9:58:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from gw.sea.ru (news.sea.ru [194.87.190.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDF5714E52; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 09:58:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ant@online.sea.ru) Received: from default (cs-ppp-140.dynip.sea.ru [194.87.190.140]) by gw.sea.ru (8.8.5.Sea/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA29718; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 20:54:38 +0400 (MSD) Message-Id: <199908081654.UAA29718@gw.sea.ru> From: "Antipov's family" To: Cc: Subject: SLIP with the leased line Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1999 20:52:30 +0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi ! Now I try to setud SLIP connection between FreeBSD 3.2 and Cisco. The configuration of Cisco is autorized and correct. Two modems was programmed to automatically connection. I.e. leased line ready. But I can't to connect with Cisco. In all examples there is information about dialing to ISP via phone. Tell me please what can I do to connect to Cisco via leased line? Thank you very much Mail me please: pavel@sdios.sea.ru Best regards Pavel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Aug 8 12:38: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles523.castles.com [208.214.165.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 630BC14E52; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 12:37:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA12716; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 12:31:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199908081931.MAA12716@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Dennis Cc: hackers@freebsd.org, isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Routing Table Memory In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 09 Aug 1999 00:41:13 EDT." <199908081626.MAA02351@etinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 08 Aug 1999 12:31:15 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > What flavor of memory tuning can be used to figure out how much the routing > table will have (and what tool can be used to monitor it, other than the > total usage shown in vmstat)? > > A machine with 64M refuses to allocate more than ~10M (about 36K routes) no > matter how many users or clusters are allocated. NetBSD systems have no > trouble holding full tables (17M) in a 64k system. > > Not that 128M is so expensive, but I'd like to know how to optimize it for > more efficient usage of memory. Route entries are just allocated out of the kernel memory pool; I would suggest upping VM_KMEM_SIZE (size of kernel memory in bytes), either as a compile-time option or using the kern.vm.kmem.size tunable as documented in 'help set tunables' inside the loader (may not be available in the version you're using depending on how you're set up). You might also try setting VM_KMEM_SIZE_SCALE to something smaller than 4 (memory size is divided by this to determine kernel VM size); this is a compile-only option, and for a machine that does almost nothing in userspace it may be more appropriate to use something like 2 (use up to half of physical memory for the kerne). -- \\ The mind's the standard \\ Mike Smith \\ of the man. \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ -- Joseph Merrick \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Aug 8 22: 8: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from fedde.littleton.co.us (fedde.littleton.co.us [207.204.248.149]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 820DF15168; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 22:07:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cfedde@fedde.littleton.co.us) Received: from fedde.littleton.co.us (localhost.fedde.littleton.co.us [127.0.0.1]) by fedde.littleton.co.us (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA11464; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 23:05:57 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199908090505.XAA11464@fedde.littleton.co.us> To: "Antipov's family" Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: Chris Fedde Subject: Re: SLIP with the leased line In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 08 Aug 1999 20:52:30 +0400." <199908081654.UAA29718@gw.sea.ru> Date: Sun, 08 Aug 1999 23:05:56 -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org You have validated that you can get dumb terminal connections to the cisco? that all the hardware is working correctly? What error messages is the BSD system giving you? What error messages are you seeing from the cisco. Do the messages help isolate the problem? chris "Antipov's family" writes: Hi ! Now I try to setud SLIP connection between FreeBSD 3.2 and Cisco. The configuration of Cisco is autorized and correct. Two modems was programmed to automatically connection. I.e. leased line ready. But I can't to connect with Cisco. In all examples there is information about dialing to ISP via phone. Tell me please what can I do to connect to Cisco via leased line? Thank you very much Mail me please: pavel@sdios.sea.ru Best regards Pavel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message __ Chris Fedde 303 773 9134 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Aug 8 22:54: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from host07.rwsystems.net (kasie.rwsystems.net [209.197.223.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E81D14E29 for ; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 22:54:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jwyatt@RWSystems.net) Received: from kasie.rwsystems.net([209.197.223.3]) (2034 bytes) by host07.rwsystems.net via sendmail with P:esmtp/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) id for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 00:38:41 -0500 (CDT) (Smail-3.2.0.104 1998-Nov-20 #1 built 1998-Dec-24) Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 00:38:41 -0500 (CDT) From: James Wyatt To: Mark Linvill Cc: Chris Cook , Martin , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2 queries In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sage advice. Access can be a nifty front-end for hacking data into MySQL, though. 8{) If you are looking for an industrial-grade run-your-business billing package, IMHO you can't do better than BillMax. You can see for yourself at http://www.billmax.com and form your own opinions. Developed on Apache, MySQL, and FreeBSD, it is available for other environments like Sun and Linux. Your users like the email invoicing and your techs will like the speed and ease-of-use. Not as cheap as Access, but that's a feature in my book. It replaced a hell of a quickbooks scripting every month! The customer updates (including tunable automatic shutoffs for unpaid accounts) are pushed to the Radius server and web/mail servers. It can be organizational superglue for an ISP. - Jy@ On Fri, 6 Aug 1999, Mark Linvill wrote: > On Sat, 7 Aug 1999, Chris Cook wrote: [several things snipped] > >> 3) (but you only said there was two ; ) Best/cheapest billing software ? > > > >We rigged something up in access... easy to do and very customizable. > > No way in hell I would trust my mission critical billing to a toy like > MS Access. IMHO Access is a prototyping tool if anything. > > Spend a little money up front for a turn-key billing package. In a > year or two if you have any growth, you'll really appreciate it. [ more snipped ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Aug 9 4:14:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from velvet.sensation.net.au (multippp0-velvet-brunswick.sensation.net.au [203.20.114.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5C4A151AF for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 04:14:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rowan@sensation.net.au) Received: from localhost (rowan@localhost) by velvet.sensation.net.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA10391 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 21:11:26 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from rowan@sensation.net.au) X-Authentication-Warning: velvet.sensation.net.au: rowan owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 21:11:24 +1000 (EST) From: Rowan Crowe To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: problem with user level ppp, using multilink functionality Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all, I seem to have come across a rather serious problem, I'm not sure whether it's something in my setup or it's a bug in ppp. I am using a very recent version downloaded today - ppp-990809.src.tar.gz. Is this a day-to-day snapshot or have I just happened to come along when a stable version has been released? I'm using the recent version as the one supplied with 2.2.8R doesn't support multilink. Anyway, the problem is that when running as a server (started with '/usr/sbin/ppp -direct mp'), ppp doesn't seem to exit properly when carrier is lost. There's nothing suggesting it actually detects the loss of CD when I pull the (line) plug on the modem, and about 3 minutes later it complains about the lack of response to LQR packets and declares the bundle dead. However, the ppp task associated with that serial line doesn't exit! It's still sitting there 20 minutes later, with 'who' still showing up the login as if the modem was still connected. Meanwhile the dialin line is just ringing out as obviously mgetty isn't running. To regain control I have to log in via shell and kill off the ppp process. This also happens if I kill -TERM the originating ppp (I presume this is a graceful shutdown, with the originating end politely reporting it's about to disconnect): 13285 ?? Is 0:00.01 /usr/sbin/ppp -direct mp 14815 ?? Ss 0:00.10 /usr/sbin/ppp -direct mp System at both ends is running 2.2.8-RELEASE, here are the basic config files... <<<>>> 'ppp -auto mp' mp: set timeout 0 set log phase chat set dial "ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 \ \"\" ATZ OK ATDT\\T TIMEOUT 45 CONNECT \"\" ogin: sbruns word: 12345" set redial 30+30-20 0 set reconnect 30 5 set login set ifaddr 203.20.114.195/0 10.0.0.2/0 set authname ppp set authkey ppppassword set mrru 1500 set enddisc label enable lqr accept lqr clone 1,2 link deflink remove link 1,2 set mode ddial link 1 set phone "93291234" link 2 set phone "93291234" link 1 set device /dev/cuaa1 link 2 set device /dev/cuaa2 link 1 set speed 115200 link 2 set speed 115200 <<<>>> 'ppp -direct mp' from shell script run after normal login mp: allow user sbruns allow mode direct set openmode active set timeout 0 set log phase chat open set login set ifaddr 203.20.114.32/0 10.0.0.2/0 set authname ppp set authkey ppppassword set mrru 1500 set enddisc label enable lqr accept lqr clone 1,2 link deflink remove Note that I'm generally unfamiliar with user level PPP, so the basic config is from the man page and I haven't started tweaking things yet. I haven't bothered to set up PAP/CHAP because the chat script logs in via the login/Password prompt before starting up ppp. Thanks for any help. :-( Cheers. -- Rowan Crowe http://www.rowan.sensation.net.au/ Sensation Internet Services http://www.sensation.net.au/ Melbourne, Australia Phone: +61-3-9388-9260 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Aug 9 4:37:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from volodya.prime.net.ua (volodya.prime.net.ua [195.64.229.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D75214DED for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 04:37:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andyo@prime.net.ua) Received: from prime.net.ua (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by volodya.prime.net.ua (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA09440; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 14:33:18 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from andyo@prime.net.ua) Message-ID: <37AEBC7A.EBE860C3@prime.net.ua> Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 14:33:16 +0300 From: "Andy V. Oleynik" Organization: M-Info X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en, ru, uk MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rowan Crowe Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: problem with user level ppp, using multilink functionality References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Where ppp logfiles? Rowan Crowe wrote: > Hi all, > > I seem to have come across a rather serious problem, I'm not sure whether > it's something in my setup or it's a bug in ppp. > > I am using a very recent version downloaded today - ppp-990809.src.tar.gz. > Is this a day-to-day snapshot or have I just happened to come along when a > stable version has been released? I'm using the recent version as the one > supplied with 2.2.8R doesn't support multilink. > > Anyway, the problem is that when running as a server (started with > '/usr/sbin/ppp -direct mp'), ppp doesn't seem to exit properly when > carrier is lost. There's nothing suggesting it actually detects the loss > of CD when I pull the (line) plug on the modem, and about 3 minutes later > it complains about the lack of response to LQR packets and declares the > bundle dead. However, the ppp task associated with that serial line > doesn't exit! It's still sitting there 20 minutes later, with 'who' still > showing up the login as if the modem was still connected. Meanwhile the > dialin line is just ringing out as obviously mgetty isn't running. To > regain control I have to log in via shell and kill off the ppp process. > > This also happens if I kill -TERM the originating ppp (I presume this is a > graceful shutdown, with the originating end politely reporting it's about > to disconnect): > > 13285 ?? Is 0:00.01 /usr/sbin/ppp -direct mp > 14815 ?? Ss 0:00.10 /usr/sbin/ppp -direct mp > > System at both ends is running 2.2.8-RELEASE, here are the basic config > files... > > <<<>>> 'ppp -auto mp' > > mp: > set timeout 0 > set log phase chat > set dial "ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 \ > \"\" ATZ OK ATDT\\T TIMEOUT 45 CONNECT \"\" ogin: sbruns word: 12345" > set redial 30+30-20 0 > set reconnect 30 5 > set login > set ifaddr 203.20.114.195/0 10.0.0.2/0 > set authname ppp > set authkey ppppassword > set mrru 1500 > set enddisc label > > enable lqr > accept lqr > > clone 1,2 > link deflink remove > link 1,2 set mode ddial > link 1 set phone "93291234" > link 2 set phone "93291234" > link 1 set device /dev/cuaa1 > link 2 set device /dev/cuaa2 > link 1 set speed 115200 > link 2 set speed 115200 > > > <<<>>> 'ppp -direct mp' from shell script run after normal login > > mp: > allow user sbruns > allow mode direct > set openmode active > set timeout 0 > set log phase chat > open > > set login > set ifaddr 203.20.114.32/0 10.0.0.2/0 > set authname ppp > set authkey ppppassword > set mrru 1500 > set enddisc label > > enable lqr > accept lqr > > clone 1,2 > link deflink remove > > Note that I'm generally unfamiliar with user level PPP, so the basic > config is from the man page and I haven't started tweaking things yet. I > haven't bothered to set up PAP/CHAP because the chat script logs in via > the login/Password prompt before starting up ppp. > > Thanks for any help. :-( > > Cheers. > > -- > Rowan Crowe http://www.rowan.sensation.net.au/ > Sensation Internet Services http://www.sensation.net.au/ > Melbourne, Australia Phone: +61-3-9388-9260 > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message -- WBW Andy V. Oleynik (When U work in virtual office prime.net.ua's U have good chance to obtain system administrator virtual money ö%-) +380442448363 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Aug 9 4:44:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from florence.pavilion.net (florence.pavilion.net [194.242.128.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE21E151DF for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 04:44:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joe@florence.pavilion.net) Received: (from joe@localhost) by florence.pavilion.net (8.9.3/8.8.8) id MAA79671; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 12:41:45 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from joe) Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 12:41:45 +0100 From: Josef Karthauser To: Rowan Crowe Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: problem with user level ppp, using multilink functionality Message-ID: <19990809124145.H59532@pavilion.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: ; from Rowan Crowe on Mon, Aug 09, 1999 at 09:11:24PM +1000 X-NCC-RegID: uk.pavilion Organisation: Pavilion Internet plc, 24 The Old Steine, Brighton, BN1 1EL, England Phone: +44-845-333-5000 Fax: +44-845-333-5001 Mobile: +44-403-596893 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org May be a bug in PPP. Brian is in the throws of incorporating ISDN support into PPP, and I had problems with his Saturday version. Use the one from the -STABLE branch of FreeBSD. It works fine. Joe On Mon, Aug 09, 1999 at 09:11:24PM +1000, Rowan Crowe wrote: > Hi all, > > I seem to have come across a rather serious problem, I'm not sure whether > it's something in my setup or it's a bug in ppp. > > I am using a very recent version downloaded today - ppp-990809.src.tar.gz. > Is this a day-to-day snapshot or have I just happened to come along when a > stable version has been released? I'm using the recent version as the one > supplied with 2.2.8R doesn't support multilink. > > Anyway, the problem is that when running as a server (started with > '/usr/sbin/ppp -direct mp'), ppp doesn't seem to exit properly when > carrier is lost. There's nothing suggesting it actually detects the loss > of CD when I pull the (line) plug on the modem, and about 3 minutes later > it complains about the lack of response to LQR packets and declares the > bundle dead. However, the ppp task associated with that serial line > doesn't exit! It's still sitting there 20 minutes later, with 'who' still > showing up the login as if the modem was still connected. Meanwhile the > dialin line is just ringing out as obviously mgetty isn't running. To > regain control I have to log in via shell and kill off the ppp process. > > This also happens if I kill -TERM the originating ppp (I presume this is a > graceful shutdown, with the originating end politely reporting it's about > to disconnect): > > 13285 ?? Is 0:00.01 /usr/sbin/ppp -direct mp > 14815 ?? Ss 0:00.10 /usr/sbin/ppp -direct mp > > System at both ends is running 2.2.8-RELEASE, here are the basic config > files... > > <<<>>> 'ppp -auto mp' > > mp: > set timeout 0 > set log phase chat > set dial "ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 \ > \"\" ATZ OK ATDT\\T TIMEOUT 45 CONNECT \"\" ogin: sbruns word: 12345" > set redial 30+30-20 0 > set reconnect 30 5 > set login > set ifaddr 203.20.114.195/0 10.0.0.2/0 > set authname ppp > set authkey ppppassword > set mrru 1500 > set enddisc label > > enable lqr > accept lqr > > clone 1,2 > link deflink remove > link 1,2 set mode ddial > link 1 set phone "93291234" > link 2 set phone "93291234" > link 1 set device /dev/cuaa1 > link 2 set device /dev/cuaa2 > link 1 set speed 115200 > link 2 set speed 115200 > > > <<<>>> 'ppp -direct mp' from shell script run after normal login > > mp: > allow user sbruns > allow mode direct > set openmode active > set timeout 0 > set log phase chat > open > > set login > set ifaddr 203.20.114.32/0 10.0.0.2/0 > set authname ppp > set authkey ppppassword > set mrru 1500 > set enddisc label > > enable lqr > accept lqr > > clone 1,2 > link deflink remove > > > Note that I'm generally unfamiliar with user level PPP, so the basic > config is from the man page and I haven't started tweaking things yet. I > haven't bothered to set up PAP/CHAP because the chat script logs in via > the login/Password prompt before starting up ppp. > > Thanks for any help. :-( > > Cheers. > > > -- > Rowan Crowe http://www.rowan.sensation.net.au/ > Sensation Internet Services http://www.sensation.net.au/ > Melbourne, Australia Phone: +61-3-9388-9260 > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message -- Josef Karthauser FreeBSD: How many times have you booted today? Technical Manager Viagra for your server (http://www.uk.freebsd.org) Pavilion Internet plc. [joe@pavilion.net, joe@uk.freebsd.org, joe@tao.org.uk] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Aug 9 5:17:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from storm.FreeBSD.org.uk (storm.freebsd.org.uk [194.242.128.198]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD7A915081 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 05:17:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by storm.FreeBSD.org.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA94166; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 13:14:35 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (brian@localhost.lan.Awfulhak.org [127.0.0.1]) by keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA02239; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 13:16:19 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <199908091216.NAA02239@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Rowan Crowe Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: problem with user level ppp, using multilink functionality In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 09 Aug 1999 21:11:24 +1000." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 13:16:18 +0100 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Hi all, > > I seem to have come across a rather serious problem, I'm not sure whether > it's something in my setup or it's a bug in ppp. > > I am using a very recent version downloaded today - ppp-990809.src.tar.gz. > Is this a day-to-day snapshot or have I just happened to come along when a > stable version has been released? I'm using the recent version as the one > supplied with 2.2.8R doesn't support multilink. > > Anyway, the problem is that when running as a server (started with > '/usr/sbin/ppp -direct mp'), ppp doesn't seem to exit properly when > carrier is lost. There's nothing suggesting it actually detects the loss > of CD when I pull the (line) plug on the modem, and about 3 minutes later > it complains about the lack of response to LQR packets and declares the > bundle dead. However, the ppp task associated with that serial line > doesn't exit! It's still sitting there 20 minutes later, with 'who' still > showing up the login as if the modem was still connected. Meanwhile the > dialin line is just ringing out as obviously mgetty isn't running. To > regain control I have to log in via shell and kill off the ppp process. [.....] If you ``set log +debug'', ppp reports what it thinks about the state of carrier every second. If your wiring is dodgy and carrier is not available, ppp will behave like this. You can use the ``set cd'' command to configure how long ppp hangs around waiting for carrier.... Check out the man page. -- Brian Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Aug 9 5:36: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from gw.caamora.com.au (jonath5.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.41.237]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A59C151FB for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 05:35:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jon@gw.caamora.com.au) Received: (from jon@localhost) by gw.caamora.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA26823; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 22:33:36 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from jon) Message-ID: <19990809223335.A26076@caamora.com.au> Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 22:33:35 +1000 From: jonathan michaels To: Josef Karthauser , Rowan Crowe Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: problem with user level ppp, using multilink functionality Mail-Followup-To: Josef Karthauser , Rowan Crowe , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG References: <19990809124145.H59532@pavilion.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <19990809124145.H59532@pavilion.net>; from Josef Karthauser on Mon, Aug 09, 1999 at 12:41:45PM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD gw.caamora.com.au 2.2.7-RELEASE i386 X-Mood: i'm alive, if it counts Organisation: Caamora, PO Box 144, Rosebery NSW 1445 Australia Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Aug 09, 1999 at 12:41:45PM +0100, Josef Karthauser wrote: > May be a bug in PPP. Brian is in the throws of incorporating ISDN support > into PPP, and I had problems with his Saturday version. can anyone throw some light on what sort of (isdn) hardware will be supported, thier isnt a lot of choice here in australia. isdn is still a very expensive proposition here, and so hardware is scarce and fairly esoteric, 'twas last time i looked about 9 to 14 months ago from memory. regards and thanks in advance, from an isdn challanged individual. cheers jonathan ps, hello, rowan. -- =============================================================================== Jonathan Michaels PO Box 144, Rosebery, NSW 1445 Australia =========================================================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Aug 9 5:37: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from velvet.sensation.net.au (multippp0-velvet-brunswick.sensation.net.au [203.20.114.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FD6215217 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 05:36:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rowan@sensation.net.au) Received: from localhost (rowan@localhost) by velvet.sensation.net.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA13102; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 22:34:32 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from rowan@sensation.net.au) X-Authentication-Warning: velvet.sensation.net.au: rowan owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 22:34:30 +1000 (EST) From: Rowan Crowe To: Brian Somers Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: problem with user level ppp, using multilink functionality In-Reply-To: <199908091216.NAA02239@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 9 Aug 1999, Brian Somers wrote: > > Anyway, the problem is that when running as a server (started with > > '/usr/sbin/ppp -direct mp'), ppp doesn't seem to exit properly when > > carrier is lost. There's nothing suggesting it actually detects the loss > > of CD when I pull the (line) plug on the modem, and about 3 minutes later > > it complains about the lack of response to LQR packets and declares the > > bundle dead. However, the ppp task associated with that serial line > > doesn't exit! It's still sitting there 20 minutes later, with 'who' still > > showing up the login as if the modem was still connected. Meanwhile the > > dialin line is just ringing out as obviously mgetty isn't running. To > > regain control I have to log in via shell and kill off the ppp process. > [.....] > > If you ``set log +debug'', ppp reports what it thinks about the state > of carrier every second. If your wiring is dodgy and carrier is > not available, ppp will behave like this. That still doesn't explain why ppp sticks around after it declares the bundle closed due to lack of LQR replies... surely that's basically equivalent to detecting carrier loss? :) I'll increase the debug level and perhaps try an earlier version too, to see if that changes anything. BTW, the modems have been working fine with pppd... BTW2, although I'm having this particular problem I'm otherwise impressed with the stability and relative ease of setting up the multilink connection - mpd looks similar but I figured user level ppp was probably better supported. This is the initial test for a future set of (up to) 4 x 33.6k links. Cheers. -- Rowan Crowe http://www.rowan.sensation.net.au/ Sensation Internet Services http://www.sensation.net.au/ Melbourne, Australia Phone: +61-3-9388-9260 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Aug 9 6:17:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.interact.se (smtp.interact.se [193.15.98.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4263914C2F for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 06:17:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from je@interact.se) Received: from interact.se (wolfie.interact.se [193.15.98.202]) by smtp.interact.se (InterACT Mailer) with ESMTP id PAA21336 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 15:12:01 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <37AED3C1.7BD9B88@interact.se> Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 15:12:33 +0200 From: InterACT Info Organization: InterACT - http://www.interact.se X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Multi networkcards Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Have anyone successfully tryed a gateway/firewall with more than ten or six interfaces? -- InterACT Luleå / Jonas Eriksson Network & Security Administrator Tel: +46 (0)920 88803 - Fax: +46 (0)920 88399 Current temp in Lulea/Sweden is 13.8C (56.8F) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Aug 9 6:18: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from velvet.sensation.net.au (multippp0-velvet-brunswick.sensation.net.au [203.20.114.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3E921524F for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 06:17:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rowan@sensation.net.au) Received: from localhost (rowan@localhost) by velvet.sensation.net.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA13633; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 22:50:34 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from rowan@sensation.net.au) X-Authentication-Warning: velvet.sensation.net.au: rowan owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 22:50:31 +1000 (EST) From: Rowan Crowe To: Brian Somers Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: problem with user level ppp, using multilink functionality In-Reply-To: <199908091216.NAA02239@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 9 Aug 1999, Brian Somers wrote: > > Anyway, the problem is that when running as a server (started with > > '/usr/sbin/ppp -direct mp'), ppp doesn't seem to exit properly when > > carrier is lost. There's nothing suggesting it actually detects the loss > > of CD when I pull the (line) plug on the modem, and about 3 minutes later Just to complicate things, one of the links just went down so I kill -TERM'd the ppp process at the originating router. This is what things look like at the other end now: 9999 ?? I 0:00.13 /usr/local/sbin/mgetty cuaa1 10055 ?? I 0:00.13 /usr/local/sbin/mgetty cuaa4 mgetty running, it appears carrier loss has been detected on both lines... 10056 ?? Ss 0:00.27 /usr/sbin/ppp -direct mp 16792 ?? Is 0:00.01 /usr/sbin/ppp -direct mp unfortunately, ppp is still running. ;-( Off to try the other version now. Cheers. -- Rowan Crowe http://www.rowan.sensation.net.au/ Sensation Internet Services http://www.sensation.net.au/ Melbourne, Australia Phone: +61-3-9388-9260 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Aug 9 6:18:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from velvet.sensation.net.au (multippp0-velvet-brunswick.sensation.net.au [203.20.114.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF11915227 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 06:18:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rowan@sensation.net.au) Received: from localhost (rowan@localhost) by velvet.sensation.net.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA13477; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 22:45:54 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from rowan@sensation.net.au) X-Authentication-Warning: velvet.sensation.net.au: rowan owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 22:45:52 +1000 (EST) From: Rowan Crowe To: jonathan michaels Cc: Josef Karthauser , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: problem with user level ppp, using multilink functionality In-Reply-To: <19990809223335.A26076@caamora.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 9 Aug 1999, jonathan michaels wrote: > On Mon, Aug 09, 1999 at 12:41:45PM +0100, Josef Karthauser wrote: > > > May be a bug in PPP. Brian is in the throws of incorporating ISDN support > > into PPP, and I had problems with his Saturday version. > > can anyone throw some light on what sort of (isdn) hardware will be > supported, thier isnt a lot of choice here in australia. > > isdn is still a very expensive proposition here, and so > hardware is scarce and fairly esoteric, 'twas last time i > looked about 9 to 14 months ago from memory. Now that Australia is migrating to Onramp (ETSI based?) there's a better chance that more equipment will be compatible. Testing and certification for legal use here is another matter, of course... I use a TA220 ISDN modem which I believe is a rebadged Motorola - it has 2 serial ports (one per 64k circuit - not sure about elsewhere but in Australia a standard Microlink or Onramp2 has a couple of 64k circuits), a 2 line LCD display and a keypad. I'm using it in AT mode which means that for all intents and purposes it's just a normal analog modem - ATDT to dial, CONNECT 64000 etc... it works on both Microlink and Onramp2. Mine was given to me (in fact it's probably more a loan) so I don't know the exact price. The TA440 is apparently the successor, but at the price Telstra quoted me (something like $1450 for the 2 port version) it might be cheaper just buying a low end Cisco. Of course you lose the flexibility of an open source router then... I believe Tennyson also make TA modems (www.tennyson.com.au), and you can buy Netjet ISDN cards (not sure if Netjet is the brand or model name) but these don't yet support FreeBSD. "Real Soon Now", they promise. In reality though, setup costs pale into relative insignificance when you consider the long term (~$250/month) running costs for an Onramp2 with a 64k data call cap. > ps, hello, rowan. G'day. :) Cheers. -- Rowan Crowe http://www.rowan.sensation.net.au/ Sensation Internet Services http://www.sensation.net.au/ Melbourne, Australia Phone: +61-3-9388-9260 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Aug 9 6:30:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from iservern.teligent.se (www.teligent.se [194.17.198.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C84D414D74 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 06:30:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jakob@teligent.se) Received: from fwse.teligent.se (gateway.teligent.se [192.168.3.254] (may be forged)) by iservern.teligent.se (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA10266 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 15:27:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jakob@teligent.se) Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 15:25:53 +0200 (CEST) From: Jakob Alvermark Reply-To: alvermark@teligent.se To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Dial-out server? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi! I have a lot of users using a modem to dial out to various locations. Up til now I've had one machine with FreeBSD and a modem to do the job. Very simple setup, I use the userland ppp with the -auto option. Problem is that it can only be used to reach one destination at a time and I have to manually quit ppp and start it with another setting whenever the user(s) want it to reach another destination I'm now thinking of setting up a dedicated server for this, with maybe 3 or 4 modems. I was wondering if I can make ppp (or some other program) to pick a modem thats not in use automatically, as there will be more "destinations" than modems. Or do you know about any good hardware to do this, that's not too expensive. I'm thinking about something like a box with an incoming ISDN PRI, a number of modems, and then a FreeBSD box with a multiport card. But I don't know if such hardward exists... TIA, =09Jakob Alvermark ------------------------------------------------------- Teligent AB, P.O. Box 213, S-149 23 Nyn=E4shamn, Sweden =20 Telephone +46-(0)8 520 660 00 * Fax +46-(0)8 520 193 36=20 Direct +46-(0)8 520 660 32 * GSM +46-(0)70 792 16 57 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Aug 9 6:54:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from gw.caamora.com.au (jonath5.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.41.237]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E78871517B for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 06:54:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jon@gw.caamora.com.au) Received: (from jon@localhost) by gw.caamora.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA27011; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 23:49:15 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from jon) Message-ID: <19990809234914.A26949@caamora.com.au> Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 23:49:14 +1000 From: jonathan michaels To: Rowan Crowe Cc: Josef Karthauser , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: problem with user level ppp, using multilink functionality Mail-Followup-To: Rowan Crowe , Josef Karthauser , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG References: <19990809223335.A26076@caamora.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Rowan Crowe on Mon, Aug 09, 1999 at 10:45:52PM +1000 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD gw.caamora.com.au 2.2.7-RELEASE i386 X-Mood: i'm alive, if it counts Organisation: Caamora, PO Box 144, Rosebery NSW 1445 Australia Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org rowan, On Mon, Aug 09, 1999 at 10:45:52PM +1000, Rowan Crowe wrote: > On Mon, 9 Aug 1999, jonathan michaels wrote: > > > On Mon, Aug 09, 1999 at 12:41:45PM +0100, Josef Karthauser wrote: > > > > > May be a bug in PPP. Brian is in the throws of incorporating ISDN support > > > into PPP, and I had problems with his Saturday version. > > > > can anyone throw some light on what sort of (isdn) hardware will be > > supported, thier isnt a lot of choice here in australia. > > > > isdn is still a very expensive proposition here, and so > > hardware is scarce and fairly esoteric, 'twas last time i > > looked about 9 to 14 months ago from memory. > > Now that Australia is migrating to Onramp (ETSI based?) there's a better > chance that more equipment will be compatible. Testing and certification > for legal use here is another matter, of course... > > I use a TA220 ISDN modem which I believe is a rebadged Motorola - it has 2 > serial ports (one per 64k circuit - not sure about elsewhere but in > Australia a standard Microlink or Onramp2 has a couple of 64k circuits), a > 2 line LCD display and a keypad. I'm using it in AT mode which means that > for all intents and purposes it's just a normal analog modem - ATDT to > dial, CONNECT 64000 etc... it works on both Microlink and Onramp2. yes, thats whats being considered for the worlds largest, small, bedroom network (grin). a pair of 64kbit channels (bonded, if telstra's ciscos can handle this level of abstraction). though i've started to look at frame relay with a cir (circuit burst rate) of about 256 kbit ... should be interesting. > Mine was given to me (in fact it's probably more a loan) so I don't know > the exact price. same here, though i'm in teh 'convincing its worthwhile' stage. > The TA440 is apparently the successor, but at the price Telstra quoted me > (something like $1450 for the 2 port version) it might be cheaper just > buying a low end Cisco. Of course you lose the flexibility of an open > source router then... or, one simply uses what one gets and hopes for improvements latter. > I believe Tennyson also make TA modems (www.tennyson.com.au), and you can > buy Netjet ISDN cards (not sure if Netjet is the brand or model name) but > these don't yet support FreeBSD. "Real Soon Now", they promise. a few others have asked me over the past little bit, i'll pass this on, thx. > In reality though, setup costs pale into relative insignificance when you > consider the long term (~$250/month) running costs for an Onramp2 with a > 64k data call cap. a side issue but sort of relevent, would anyone running isdn know what sort bit rate (maximun traffic) can be expected from a 64 kbit, 128 kbit or even a 256 kbit link before saturation sets in links fallover so to speak. in the old days i worked out that if i could get a 33k6 circuit to the back bone this would be as good as running a 64 kbit isdn (our isdn feeders are not to reliable in my part of the world, more so with the selloff). hence the interest in frame relay or even multiple 33k6 (or v.90) with some sort of pstn based 'channel bonding'. off cource the effective 128 kbit path to the back bone (3x33k6 pstn pots circuits) at dirt cheap rates has nothing to do with this line of questioning ... grin. > > ps, hello, rowan. > > G'day. :) > > Cheers. hope things are ok in your camp. regards jonathan -- =============================================================================== Jonathan Michaels PO Box 144, Rosebery, NSW 1445 Australia =========================================================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Aug 9 7:17:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mercury.jorsm.com (mercury.jorsm.com [207.112.128.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EEF9150AF for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 07:17:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jeff@mercury.jorsm.com) Received: from localhost (jeff@localhost) by mercury.jorsm.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA22690; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 09:14:59 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 09:14:59 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeff Lynch To: Len Conrad Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Quad processor motherboard? In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.19990807113645.01f77aa0@go2france.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 7 Aug 1999, Len Conrad wrote: > Jeff, > > What specific ASUS board numbers? Have you tried FreeBSD with ASUS' > RAID5/caching controller, the 2100? > > Thanks, > Len We have several P2B-S in service and are very happy with them. Note these are duals, not quads. http://www.asus.com/Products/Motherboard/Pentiumpro/P2b-s/index.html No. We haven't tried their Raid controllers. --jeff ============================================================================ Jeffrey A. Lynch | JORSM Internet, Regional Internet Services email: jeff@jorsm.com | 7 Area Codes in Chicagoland and NW Indiana Voice: (219)322-2180 | 100Mbps+ Connectivity, 56K-DS3, V.90, ISDN Autoresponse: info@jorsm.com | Quality Service, Affordable Prices http://www.jorsm.com | Serving Gov, Biz, Indivds Since 1995 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Aug 9 7:37:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (mail.wolves.k12.mo.us [207.160.214.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DE1A151EE for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 07:37:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us) Received: from mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (cdillon@mail.wolves.k12.mo.us [207.160.214.1]) by mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA98753; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 09:35:36 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us) Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 09:35:36 -0500 (CDT) From: Chris Dillon To: InterACT Info Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Multi networkcards In-Reply-To: <37AED3C1.7BD9B88@interact.se> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 9 Aug 1999, InterACT Info wrote: > Have anyone successfully tryed a gateway/firewall > with more than ten or six interfaces? More than six, yes. I've been using a Compaq Proliant 3000 (PIII-500, 256MB) with six Intel EtherExpress PRO 10/100B's (82558) and one Dual EtherExpress PRO 10/100B (dual 82558 + PCI bridge) for a total of 8 interfaces. FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE didn't want to see all of the PCI busses in this particular server, but 3.2 saw everything just fine, and works without a hitch. I could easily put 10 interfaces in this thing since it has a couple of free PCI slots, and I wouldn't forsee a problem doing so. The performance is quite good, by the way. I've managed to saturate 4 of the interfaces at 100Mbit FD and the server didn't break a sweat. This was with 36 ipfw rules, with most of the traffic passing through 14 rules on its way in and out (exactly 28 rules for a packet to pass through the box from one of my private networks to another). Granted, this was a bunch of SMB traffic passing between multiple NT (blech) boxes, so the packets on average were fairly large. Maybe in a few months, time allowing, I'll set up some workstations on each of the networks to pump as much data as they can through all 8 interfaces, packets both big and small, and see how it performs. -- Chris Dillon - cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us - cdillon@inter-linc.net FreeBSD: The fastest and most stable server OS on the planet. For Intel x86 and Alpha architectures (SPARC under development). ( http://www.freebsd.org ) "One should admire Windows users. It takes a great deal of courage to trust Windows with your data." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Aug 9 8:10: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from storm.FreeBSD.org.uk (storm.freebsd.org.uk [194.242.128.198]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C826150D1 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 08:10:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by storm.FreeBSD.org.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA94831; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 16:06:23 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (brian@localhost.lan.Awfulhak.org [127.0.0.1]) by keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA49466; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 16:08:09 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <199908091508.QAA49466@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Rowan Crowe Cc: Brian Somers , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: problem with user level ppp, using multilink functionality In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 09 Aug 1999 22:34:30 +1000." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 16:08:08 +0100 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > On Mon, 9 Aug 1999, Brian Somers wrote: > > > > Anyway, the problem is that when running as a server (started with > > > '/usr/sbin/ppp -direct mp'), ppp doesn't seem to exit properly when > > > carrier is lost. There's nothing suggesting it actually detects the loss > > > of CD when I pull the (line) plug on the modem, and about 3 minutes later > > > it complains about the lack of response to LQR packets and declares the > > > bundle dead. However, the ppp task associated with that serial line > > > doesn't exit! It's still sitting there 20 minutes later, with 'who' still > > > showing up the login as if the modem was still connected. Meanwhile the > > > dialin line is just ringing out as obviously mgetty isn't running. To > > > regain control I have to log in via shell and kill off the ppp process. > > [.....] > > > > If you ``set log +debug'', ppp reports what it thinks about the state > > of carrier every second. If your wiring is dodgy and carrier is > > not available, ppp will behave like this. > > That still doesn't explain why ppp sticks around after it declares the > bundle closed due to lack of LQR replies... surely that's basically > equivalent to detecting carrier loss? :) And what does ``show links'' say ? Ppp will only delete -direct and -background links when they close. It won't delete other link types. > I'll increase the debug level and perhaps try an earlier version too, to > see if that changes anything. [.....] If you fire a log file with ``set log lcp ipcp command phase'' this way, I can have a look and see if there's anything odd there. > Cheers. > > > -- > Rowan Crowe http://www.rowan.sensation.net.au/ > Sensation Internet Services http://www.sensation.net.au/ > Melbourne, Australia Phone: +61-3-9388-9260 -- Brian Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Aug 9 8:10:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from storm.FreeBSD.org.uk (storm.freebsd.org.uk [194.242.128.198]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AE421523E for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 08:10:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by storm.FreeBSD.org.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA94842; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 16:08:42 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (brian@localhost.lan.Awfulhak.org [127.0.0.1]) by keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA50817; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 16:10:27 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <199908091510.QAA50817@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Rowan Crowe Cc: Brian Somers , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: problem with user level ppp, using multilink functionality In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 09 Aug 1999 22:50:31 +1000." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 16:10:27 +0100 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > On Mon, 9 Aug 1999, Brian Somers wrote: > > > > Anyway, the problem is that when running as a server (started with > > > '/usr/sbin/ppp -direct mp'), ppp doesn't seem to exit properly when > > > carrier is lost. There's nothing suggesting it actually detects the loss > > > of CD when I pull the (line) plug on the modem, and about 3 minutes later > > Just to complicate things, one of the links just went down so I kill > -TERM'd the ppp process at the originating router. This is what things > look like at the other end now: > > 9999 ?? I 0:00.13 /usr/local/sbin/mgetty cuaa1 > 10055 ?? I 0:00.13 /usr/local/sbin/mgetty cuaa4 > > mgetty running, it appears carrier loss has been detected on both lines... > > 10056 ?? Ss 0:00.27 /usr/sbin/ppp -direct mp > 16792 ?? Is 0:00.01 /usr/sbin/ppp -direct mp > > unfortunately, ppp is still running. ;-( How about setting up a diagnostic port (set server ...) and connecting to the dodgy processes ? Are you perhaps using the ``set mode'' command to change the mode of the incoming links - stopping ppp from exiting ? > Off to try the other version now. > > Cheers. > > > -- > Rowan Crowe http://www.rowan.sensation.net.au/ > Sensation Internet Services http://www.sensation.net.au/ > Melbourne, Australia Phone: +61-3-9388-9260 -- Brian Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Aug 9 8:34:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from etinc.com (et-gw.etinc.com [207.252.1.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE9E0151BE for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 08:34:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dennis@etinc.com) Received: from dbsys (dbsys.etinc.com [207.252.1.18]) by etinc.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA05746 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 11:27:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199908091527.LAA05746@etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@etinc.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 10:22:31 -0400 To: isp@freebsd.org From: Dennis Subject: Quad DLINK ethernet Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Has anyone successfully tried these? They are rather inexpensive. Dennis To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Aug 9 8:53:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from xenetserver.harz.de (xenetserver.harz.de [193.159.181.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6D4D14BF1 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 08:53:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Matthias.Meyser@harz.de) Received: (from matthias@localhost) by xenetserver.harz.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA02008; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 17:48:54 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <19990809174854.A1926@xenetserver.harz.de> Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 17:48:54 +0200 From: Matthias Meyser To: Dennis Cc: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Quad DLINK ethernet References: <199908091527.LAA05746@etinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <199908091527.LAA05746@etinc.com>; from Dennis on Mon, Aug 09, 1999 at 10:22:31AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi On Mon, Aug 09, 1999 at 10:22:31AM -0400, Dennis wrote: > Has anyone successfully tried these? They are rather inexpensive. Works very fine here (2 Cards / 8 Ports in one machine) with FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE. As with other cards there is one problem, media autoselection doesn't work reliable when directly connected to another autoselecting device. To fix this you have to nail one end to a fixed media speed. Grettings matthias -- \\ // N N EEE TTT Matthias Meyser, Meyser@harz.de \\ // eee NN N E T Gesellschaft fuer Informations- und \X/ e e N N N EE T Kommunikationssysteme mbH // \\ e ee N NN E T 38678 Clausthal-Zellerfeld, Burgstaetter Strasse 6 // \\ eeee N N EEE T Telefon: +49-5323-94018 Fax: +49-5323-94011 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Aug 9 9: 0:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mel.alcatel.fr (mel.alcatel.fr [212.208.74.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE59E152B5 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 09:00:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from thierry.herbelot@alcatel.fr) Received: from aifhs2.alcatel.fr (mailhub.alcatel.fr [155.132.180.80]) by mel.alcatel.fr (ALCANET/SMTP) with ESMTP id QAA04098; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 16:53:21 +0200 Received: from lune.telspace.alcatel.fr (lune.telspace.alcatel.fr [155.132.144.65]) by aifhs2.alcatel.fr (ALCANET/SMTP2) with ESMTP id RAA02210; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 17:50:26 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from telss1 (telss1.telspace.alcatel.fr [155.132.51.4]) by lune.telspace.alcatel.fr (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA09183; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 17:44:16 +0200 (MEST) Received: from alcatel.fr by telss1 (8.8.8+Sun/SMI-SVR4) id RAA03518; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 17:53:36 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <37AEF9B3.87259EFC@alcatel.fr> Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 17:54:27 +0200 From: Thierry Herbelot Reply-To: thierry.herbelot@alcatel.fr Organization: ALCATEL CIT Nanterre X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Dillon Cc: InterACT Info , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: maximum UDP output (was Re: Multi networkcards) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Talking about saturating interfaces, I've got here a little program spitting UDP packets as fast at it can, in a burst. The program is just a loop : while (1) usleep(delay) // to adjust the rate for i = 1 to n send(socket, packet) I've set up the socket as "connected" to speed up the kernel processing (it is even bound to a local address). I am still wondering why I can't use a burst of 6 packets or more unless the emitted rate drops to one fifth of the one attained with a 5-packet burst. I've had a look at the usual suspects (ip_output, udp_output, ...), but I've not seen the light (I've increased UDP send space, but everything remains the same). Anyway, I've got a box processing around 10K packets per second with a 40% load (PIII-450) TfH Chris Dillon wrote: > > On Mon, 9 Aug 1999, InterACT Info wrote: > > > Have anyone successfully tryed a gateway/firewall > > with more than ten or six interfaces? > > More than six, yes. I've been using a Compaq Proliant 3000 (PIII-500, > 256MB) with six Intel EtherExpress PRO 10/100B's (82558) and one Dual > EtherExpress PRO 10/100B (dual 82558 + PCI bridge) for a total of 8 > interfaces. FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE didn't want to see all of the PCI > busses in this particular server, but 3.2 saw everything just fine, > and works without a hitch. I could easily put 10 interfaces in this > thing since it has a couple of free PCI slots, and I wouldn't forsee a > problem doing so. > > The performance is quite good, by the way. I've managed to saturate 4 > of the interfaces at 100Mbit FD and the server didn't break a sweat. > This was with 36 ipfw rules, with most of the traffic passing through > 14 rules on its way in and out (exactly 28 rules for a packet to pass > through the box from one of my private networks to another). > Granted, this was a bunch of SMB traffic passing between multiple NT > (blech) boxes, so the packets on average were fairly large. > > Maybe in a few months, time allowing, I'll set up some workstations on > each of the networks to pump as much data as they can through all 8 > interfaces, packets both big and small, and see how it performs. > > -- Chris Dillon - cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us - cdillon@inter-linc.net > FreeBSD: The fastest and most stable server OS on the planet. > For Intel x86 and Alpha architectures (SPARC under development). > ( http://www.freebsd.org ) > > "One should admire Windows users. It takes a great deal of > courage to trust Windows with your data." > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Aug 9 9:10:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from storm.FreeBSD.org.uk (storm.freebsd.org.uk [194.242.128.198]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E9D01514D for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 09:10:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by storm.FreeBSD.org.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA95079; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 17:06:13 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (brian@localhost.lan.Awfulhak.org [127.0.0.1]) by keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA51636; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 17:07:58 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <199908091607.RAA51636@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: jonathan michaels Cc: Rowan Crowe , Josef Karthauser , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: problem with user level ppp, using multilink functionality In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 09 Aug 1999 23:49:14 +1000." <19990809234914.A26949@caamora.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 17:07:58 +0100 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org jon@caamora.com.au said: > can anyone throw some light on what sort of (isdn) hardware will be > supported, thier isnt a lot of choice here in australia. Ppp only runs using i4b - therefore, the cards supported are only those supported by the i4b stuff. I believe only ISDN2E is currently supported (the E at the end stands for Europe - these are European standard ISDN links with 2 B channels). Take a look at the comments in the -current version of LINT for details of which cards are supported: http://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-current/src/sys/i386/conf/LINT > a side issue but sort of relevent, would anyone running isdn > know what sort bit rate (maximun traffic) can be expected from > a 64 kbit, 128 kbit or even a 256 kbit link before saturation > sets in links fallover so to speak. I see 60000 - 68000bps per link (even in MP mode) when a single transfer is happening. User-ppp currently measures throughput as the total throughput (both ways) which has a theoretical max of 128bps per channel. You get near maximum **all the time** through Pavilion Internet. Demon's ISDN seems to get marginally less, and I haven't tried MP there. > in the old days i worked out that if i could get a 33k6 circuit > to the back bone this would be as good as running a 64 kbit > isdn (our isdn feeders are not to reliable in my part of the > world, more so with the selloff). hence the interest in frame > relay or even multiple 33k6 (or v.90) with some sort of pstn > based 'channel bonding'. You can run user-ppp at both ends of a set of analogue lines in MP mode - that's how I tested the software after I finished writing it (it was tested during development with ppp running ppp -direct back-to-back. > off cource the effective 128 kbit path to the back bone (3x33k6 > pstn pots circuits) at dirt cheap rates has nothing to do with > this line of questioning ... grin. I had exactly the same opinion, but there are a couple of other variables. The biggie is the speed of bringing up an ISDN link - it comes up in seconds, not minutes. This makes dial-on-demand a reality in my book. The *real* problem with user-ppp in this arena is that it doesn't do any of the compression algorithms that the hardware at most ISPs does - ie, MPPC or STAC. Does *ANYONE* know anybody that could push some buttons in this area and either get deflate/predictor supported on some server hardware or else get Microsoft/Stac to allow me to emulate their compression algorithms ? It would make a huge difference ! > > > ps, hello, rowan. > > > > G'day. :) > > > > Cheers. > > hope things are ok in your camp. > > regards > > jonathan > > -- > =============================================================================== > Jonathan Michaels > PO Box 144, Rosebery, NSW 1445 Australia > =========================================================== Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Aug 9 9:12:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from storm.FreeBSD.org.uk (storm.freebsd.org.uk [194.242.128.198]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 514441516C for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 09:12:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by storm.FreeBSD.org.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA95092; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 17:10:17 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (brian@localhost.lan.Awfulhak.org [127.0.0.1]) by keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA51695; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 17:12:02 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <199908091612.RAA51695@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: alvermark@teligent.se Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Dial-out server? In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 09 Aug 1999 15:25:53 +0200." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 17:12:02 +0100 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > = > Hi! > = > I have a lot of users using a modem to dial out to various locations. U= p > til now I've had one machine with FreeBSD and a modem to do the job. Ve= ry > simple setup, I use the userland ppp with the -auto option. Problem is > that it can only be used to reach one destination at a time and I have = to > manually quit ppp and start it with another setting whenever the user(s= ) > want it to reach another destination I'm now thinking of setting up a > dedicated server for this, with maybe 3 or 4 modems. > = > I was wondering if I can make ppp (or some other program) to pick a mod= em > thats not in use automatically, as there will be more "destinations" th= an > modems. How about set device /dev/cuaa0 /dev/cuaa1 /dev/cuaa2 /dev/cuaa3 Ppp will attempt to lock each in order and will use the first one it = manages to lock. Locking is standard across all (standard) programs = - see uucplock(3). > Or do you know about any good hardware to do this, that's not too > expensive. > = > I'm thinking about something like a box with an incoming ISDN PRI, a > number of modems, and then a FreeBSD box with a multiport card. But I > don't know if such hardward exists... The sky's the limit :-] > TIA, > Jakob Alvermark > = > ------------------------------------------------------- > Teligent AB, P.O. Box 213, S-149 23 Nyn=E4shamn, Sweden = > Telephone +46-(0)8 520 660 00 * Fax +46-(0)8 520 193 36 = > Direct +46-(0)8 520 660 32 * GSM +46-(0)70 792 16 57 -- = Brian Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Aug 9 9:36:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from velvet.sensation.net.au (multippp0-velvet-brunswick.sensation.net.au [203.20.114.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8581D1516C for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 09:36:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rowan@sensation.net.au) Received: from localhost (rowan@localhost) by velvet.sensation.net.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA21800; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 02:32:25 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from rowan@sensation.net.au) X-Authentication-Warning: velvet.sensation.net.au: rowan owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 02:32:23 +1000 (EST) From: Rowan Crowe To: Brian Somers Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: problem with user level ppp, using multilink functionality In-Reply-To: <199908091508.QAA49466@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 9 Aug 1999, Brian Somers wrote: > And what does ``show links'' say ? Thanks for the tip, this might be a clue: PPP ON core1-mel> show links Name: deflink [direct, open] bandwidth 115200, 1560 bps (195 bytes/sec) Name: 1 [interactive, closed] Name: 2 [interactive, closed] Name: deflink-1 [direct, open] bandwidth 115200, 1528 bps (191 bytes/sec) I wonder if "1" and "2" are anything to do with the processes that stay around. Why does 'deflink' show up when there's a 'link deflink remove' command in ppp.conf? Where does 'deflink-1' come from? Here's ppp.conf again for your reference... mp: allow user sbruns allow mode direct set openmode active set timeout 0 set log phase chat set server +3000 12345 open set login set ifaddr 203.20.114.32/0 10.0.0.2/0 set authname ppp set authkey ppppassword set mrru 1500 set enddisc label enable lqr accept lqr # disable keep-session clone 1,2 link deflink remove > Ppp will only delete -direct and > -background links when they close. It won't delete other link types. Originator is -auto (not the problem), server end is -direct. There's no mode change settings in ppp.conf (I presume 'openmode' isn't relevant - I had to set it to active and add in 'open' to make it talk) The fact that '1' and '2' are listed as 'interactive' above might have something to do with the prob... Cheers. -- Rowan Crowe http://www.rowan.sensation.net.au/ Sensation Internet Services http://www.sensation.net.au/ Melbourne, Australia Phone: +61-3-9388-9260 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Aug 9 9:44: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mailtoaster1.pipeline.ch (mailtoaster1.pipeline.ch [62.48.0.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3964C15267 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 09:43:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from oppermann@pipeline.ch) Received: (qmail 10765 invoked from network); 9 Aug 1999 16:38:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO pipeline.ch) ([195.134.128.41]) (envelope-sender ) by mailtoaster1.pipeline.ch (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 9 Aug 1999 16:38:50 -0000 Message-ID: <37AF043C.D1A55F1E@pipeline.ch> Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 18:39:24 +0200 From: Andre Oppermann X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brian Somers Cc: jonathan michaels , Rowan Crowe , Josef Karthauser , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: problem with user level ppp, using multilink functionality References: <199908091607.RAA51636@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Brian Somers wrote: > The *real* problem with user-ppp in this arena is that it doesn't do > any of the compression algorithms that the hardware at most ISPs does > - ie, MPPC or STAC. > > Does *ANYONE* know anybody that could push some buttons in this area > and either get deflate/predictor supported on some server hardware or > else get Microsoft/Stac to allow me to emulate their compression > algorithms ? It would make a huge difference ! RFC1967, RFC1974, RFC2118, RFC2395 has some hints on the subject. -- Andre To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Aug 9 10: 4: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from velvet.sensation.net.au (multippp0-velvet-brunswick.sensation.net.au [203.20.114.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A441E15177 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 10:03:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rowan@sensation.net.au) Received: from localhost (rowan@localhost) by velvet.sensation.net.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA22675; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 02:59:28 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from rowan@sensation.net.au) X-Authentication-Warning: velvet.sensation.net.au: rowan owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 02:59:20 +1000 (EST) From: Rowan Crowe To: Brian Somers Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: problem with user level ppp, using multilink functionality In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 10 Aug 1999, Rowan Crowe wrote: > clone 1,2 > link deflink remove Following on from the last message, I think this is where the extra links are coming from. The man page doesn't say you *don't* have to clone on the server side, so it looks like that was my mistake! I commented out the above 2 lines and it's now working [better]. There's still the problem of the carrier drop not being detected - very strange. Until the LQR kicks in no IP traffic passes over the mppp link, but the good news is that once that happens everything seems to exit and clean up; a subsequent redial attempt of the downed modem succeeds and IP traffic is once again passed over the mppp link. I've downed each modem once and the number of ppp processes is staying stable at 2 once the modem comes back up. I'm wondering how to fix the CD problem. Does the 'set cd' command work for the server side? The way I read it it's only relevant for scripted dialins (ie the client side). Cheers. -- Rowan Crowe http://www.rowan.sensation.net.au/ Sensation Internet Services http://www.sensation.net.au/ Melbourne, Australia Phone: +61-3-9388-9260 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Aug 9 10:19:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from storm.FreeBSD.org.uk (storm.freebsd.org.uk [194.242.128.198]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E32A1526F for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 10:19:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by storm.FreeBSD.org.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA95324; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 18:12:43 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (brian@localhost.lan.Awfulhak.org [127.0.0.1]) by keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA52188; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 18:14:29 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <199908091714.SAA52188@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Rowan Crowe Cc: Brian Somers , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: problem with user level ppp, using multilink functionality In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 10 Aug 1999 02:59:20 +1000." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 18:14:22 +0100 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > On Tue, 10 Aug 1999, Rowan Crowe wrote: > > > clone 1,2 > > link deflink remove > > Following on from the last message, I think this is where the extra links > are coming from. The man page doesn't say you *don't* have to clone on the > server side, so it looks like that was my mistake! I commented out the > above 2 lines and it's now working [better]. You've got to bear in mind that ppp allows you to create new links even in -direct mode. This will facilitate BACP nicely when I get time to implement it. You only need to create links you plan to use. Ppp is smart on the incoming side. You make two links to machine A, and two ppp processes start up. When they realize that they should be part of the same link, one invocation passes the link to the other then hangs around 'till the other version of ppp is finished with it (so that getty doesn't grab and revoke() the line). > There's still the problem of the carrier drop not being detected - very > strange. Until the LQR kicks in no IP traffic passes over the mppp link, > but the good news is that once that happens everything seems to exit and > clean up; a subsequent redial attempt of the downed modem succeeds and IP > traffic is once again passed over the mppp link. > > I've downed each modem once and the number of ppp processes is staying > stable at 2 once the modem comes back up. > > I'm wondering how to fix the CD problem. Does the 'set cd' command work > for the server side? The way I read it it's only relevant for scripted > dialins (ie the client side). The server side will do the same as the client side except that it uses descriptor 0 (as set up by getty) rather than opening its own device. You need to enable ``debug'' logging to see what's going on there. A ``set cd 1!'' will tell ppp to wait up to 1 second for carrier and then close the link if it's not there - it may be worth experimenting with. You may also want something like ``set cd 3!'' if your modems are slow at asserting carrier (I've only seen one such report before). > Cheers. > > > -- > Rowan Crowe http://www.rowan.sensation.net.au/ > Sensation Internet Services http://www.sensation.net.au/ > Melbourne, Australia Phone: +61-3-9388-9260 -- Brian Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Aug 9 10:32:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from daedal.oneway.com (daedal.oneway.com [205.252.89.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DEA6152DC for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 10:30:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jay@oneway.com) Received: from localhost (jay@localhost) by daedal.oneway.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA24805; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 13:27:55 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jay@oneway.com) Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 13:27:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Jay Kuri To: Dennis Cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Quad DLINK ethernet In-Reply-To: <199908091527.LAA05746@etinc.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Has anyone successfully tried these? They are rather inexpensive. We have one in a new server (about to go online) and 4 more waiting to find their way into gateway machines. Thus far, we have seen no problems at all. Jay - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - UNIX: because reboots are for hardware upgrades Jay Kuri jay@oneway.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Aug 9 10:46:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from velvet.sensation.net.au (multippp0-velvet-brunswick.sensation.net.au [203.20.114.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFB2314E14 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 10:46:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rowan@sensation.net.au) Received: from localhost (rowan@localhost) by velvet.sensation.net.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA17523 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 00:32:23 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from rowan@sensation.net.au) X-Authentication-Warning: velvet.sensation.net.au: rowan owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 00:32:21 +1000 (EST) From: Rowan Crowe To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: ppp + multilink problem - followup Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Just as a followup here's the relevant part of ppp.log on the server and my commentary... Aug 10 00:14:22 core1-mel ppp[29387]: Phase: Using interface: tun0 Aug 10 00:14:22 core1-mel ppp[29387]: Phase: deflink: Created in closed state Aug 10 00:14:22 core1-mel ppp[29213]: Phase: Using interface: tun1 Aug 10 00:14:22 core1-mel ppp[29387]: Phase: bundle: Establish Aug 10 00:14:22 core1-mel ppp[29213]: Phase: deflink: Created in closed state Aug 10 00:14:22 core1-mel ppp[29387]: Phase: deflink: closed -> opening Aug 10 00:14:22 core1-mel ppp[29387]: Phase: 1: Cloned in closed state Aug 10 00:14:22 core1-mel ppp[29387]: Phase: 2: Cloned in closed state Aug 10 00:14:22 core1-mel ppp[29387]: Warning: remove: Cannot delete links that aren't closed Aug 10 00:14:22 core1-mel ppp[29387]: Warning: link deflink remove: Failed 2 ...is this a warning I can ignore or an indication of a problem? Aug 10 00:14:22 core1-mel ppp[29387]: Phase: PPP Started (direct mode). Aug 10 00:14:22 core1-mel ppp[29213]: Phase: bundle: Establish Aug 10 00:14:22 core1-mel ppp[29213]: Phase: deflink: closed -> opening Aug 10 00:14:22 core1-mel ppp[29213]: Phase: 1: Cloned in closed state Aug 10 00:14:22 core1-mel ppp[29213]: Phase: 2: Cloned in closed state Aug 10 00:14:22 core1-mel ppp[29213]: Warning: remove: Cannot delete links that aren't closed Aug 10 00:14:22 core1-mel ppp[29213]: Warning: link deflink remove: Failed 2 Aug 10 00:14:22 core1-mel ppp[29213]: Phase: PPP Started (direct mode). Aug 10 00:14:23 core1-mel ppp[29387]: Phase: deflink: Connected! Aug 10 00:14:23 core1-mel ppp[29387]: Phase: deflink: opening -> lcp Aug 10 00:14:23 core1-mel ppp[29213]: Phase: deflink: Connected! Aug 10 00:14:23 core1-mel ppp[29213]: Phase: deflink: opening -> lcp Aug 10 00:14:23 core1-mel ppp[29387]: Phase: mp: Listening on /var/run/ppp--01-6d70 Aug 10 00:14:23 core1-mel ppp[29387]: Phase: First link: deflink Aug 10 00:14:23 core1-mel ppp[29387]: Phase: deflink: lcp -> open Aug 10 00:14:23 core1-mel ppp[29387]: Phase: bundle: Network Aug 10 00:14:24 core1-mel ppp[29213]: Phase: mp: Transfer link on /var/run/ppp--01-6d70 Aug 10 00:14:24 core1-mel ppp[29387]: Phase: Receiving datalink Aug 10 00:14:24 core1-mel ppp[29213]: Phase: Transmitting datalink deflink Aug 10 00:14:24 core1-mel ppp[29213]: Phase: bundle: Dead Aug 10 00:14:24 core1-mel ppp[29387]: Phase: Rename link deflink to deflink-1 Aug 10 00:14:24 core1-mel ppp[29387]: Phase: deflink-1: Transferred in lcp state Aug 10 00:14:24 core1-mel ppp[29387]: Phase: deflink-1: lcp -> open Aug 10 00:14:24 core1-mel ppp[29866]: Phase: 29213 -> 29866: Passed session control Multilink successfully established, the 2 PIDs of ppp are 29387 and 29866 *pulls out cable of one of the modems at the client end* The client end has detected the carrier drop after a few seconds, but the server end is still sitting there doing nothing. According to 'who' the modem is still connected at the server end. As soon as the first link drops all IP traffic stops, and it will not resume until both the stray PPP processes at the server are killed off and the entire thing is redialled. After a few minutes the lack of LQR replies causes this... Aug 10 00:19:57 core1-mel ppp[29387]: Phase: deflink-1: ** Too many LQR packets lost ** Aug 10 00:19:57 core1-mel ppp[29387]: Phase: deflink-1: open -> lcp Aug 10 00:19:57 core1-mel ppp[29387]: Phase: deflink-1: Disconnected! Aug 10 00:19:57 core1-mel ppp[29387]: Phase: deflink-1: Connect time: 333 secs: 1075 octets in, 781 octets out Aug 10 00:19:57 core1-mel ppp[29387]: Phase: total 5 bytes/sec, peak 43 bytes/sec on Tue Aug 10 00:19:57 1999 Aug 10 00:19:57 core1-mel ppp[29387]: Phase: deflink-1: lcp -> closed ppp pid 29387 has detected the link is down, but it's still running: 29387 a1 Ss+ 0:01.39 /usr/sbin/ppp -direct mp I'm wondering why it doesn't exit, am I doing something wrong in the config? Perhaps it's sitting there in passive mode waiting for a new connection to start? (even though it never will as long as it's attached to cuaa1 which is now an offline modem) If it helps this is what top says about 29387... PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND 29387 sbruns 2 0 852K 1368K select 0:02 0.00% 0.00% ppp Thank you all for your suggestions so far. By the way, this is the ppp that came with 3.2-RELEASE (recompiled on the 2.2.8-R machines) - unfortunately it didn't fix the problem. BTW, why does the originating ppp occasionally do strange things like initiate a *new* dial 15-20 sec after I kill -TERM it? Is this the correct way to shut it down? (I just did it then and it's dialled about 4-6 times before exiting) Cheers. -- Rowan Crowe http://www.rowan.sensation.net.au/ Sensation Internet Services http://www.sensation.net.au/ Melbourne, Australia Phone: +61-3-9388-9260 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Aug 9 11: 1:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from host07.rwsystems.net (kasie.rwsystems.net [209.197.223.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA0961516A for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 11:01:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jwyatt@RWSystems.net) Received: from kasie.rwsystems.net([209.197.223.3]) (1426 bytes) by host07.rwsystems.net via sendmail with P:esmtp/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) id for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 12:36:18 -0500 (CDT) (Smail-3.2.0.104 1998-Nov-20 #1 built 1998-Dec-24) Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 12:36:04 -0500 (CDT) From: James Wyatt To: Dennis Cc: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Quad DLINK ethernet In-Reply-To: <199908091527.LAA05746@etinc.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 9 Aug 1999, Dennis wrote: > Has anyone successfully tried these? They are rather inexpensive. They look like a standard DEC PCI bridge chip and four Tulip chips (like the NetGear 10/100 PCI board). Thanks for the reference! The DLink web page goes into great depth to push the NT driver - which does some cool things - but completely misses Unix. (btw: the drivers were done by IP Metrics Software just up the street from us) I need something like this, so I have been looking around some. So far: www.cdw.com and www.cmpexpress.com - not available www.mcglen.com - $174.91 www.pricewatch.com says www.pcnation.com has it for $177, but the pcnation web site has no knowledge of it. If anyone else has a reputable vendor that can convert VISA to UPS, I'd like to hear about them. - Jy@ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Aug 9 11: 5:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ccsales.com (ccsales.com [216.0.22.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E745514BEC for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 11:05:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from randyk@ccsales.com) Received: (from randyk@localhost) by ccsales.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) id LAA14774; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 11:03:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <19990809110346.02936@ccsales.com> Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 11:03:46 -0700 From: randyk To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Attack or What? Reply-To: randyk@ccsales.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, We have had this condition a few times. We thought it was a switch or bandwidth limiter condition but after 3 brands of top name switches and 2 bandwidth limiters I am beginning to think otherwise. The network has 2 ds3's coming into a Cisco 7507 on to a Xedia bandwidth limiter on to gigabit ethernet cascaded Extreme Summit 48 switches. The condition is as follows: 1. Extreme activity in the 90mbit range on 3 out of 4 of the switches. 2. This activity pumping up the outbound activity on one of the ds3 lines to double our normal usage (from 18mbits to around 40mbits). 3. Activity subsides after around 15-20 minutes. We have done all the usual Cisco limiting and filtering for SMURF broad- casts that have been posted. We have around 200 FreeBSD machines internally. I was wondering if there is something we should be doing to those machines that might reduce this activity if it is: a) One of our machines being hijacked. b) One of our customers on the machines doing bad things. The machines in question are webservers. Thank you, Randy Katz To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Aug 9 16:10:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from awfulhak.org (dynamic-124.max1-du-ws.dialnetwork.pavilion.co.uk [212.74.8.124]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B60615327 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 16:09:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (root@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org [172.16.0.8]) by awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA21641; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 20:51:59 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@lan.awfulhak.org) Received: from keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (brian@localhost.lan.Awfulhak.org [127.0.0.1]) by keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA01465; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 19:31:19 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <199908091831.TAA01465@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Andre Oppermann Cc: Brian Somers , jonathan michaels , Rowan Crowe , Josef Karthauser , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: problem with user level ppp, using multilink functionality In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 09 Aug 1999 18:39:24 +0200." <37AF043C.D1A55F1E@pipeline.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 19:31:19 +0100 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Brian Somers wrote: > > The *real* problem with user-ppp in this arena is that it doesn't do > > any of the compression algorithms that the hardware at most ISPs does > > - ie, MPPC or STAC. > > > > Does *ANYONE* know anybody that could push some buttons in this area > > and either get deflate/predictor supported on some server hardware or > > else get Microsoft/Stac to allow me to emulate their compression > > algorithms ? It would make a huge difference ! > > RFC1967, RFC1974, RFC2118, RFC2395 has some hints on the subject. Indeed. I've read these and even talked to the people mentioned. They say that I must be a company (I can do that) and must sign an NDA (I won't do that). I don't see why I have to sign an NDA to write some software using rfcs. The MPPC spec publishes the format, but nobody's allowed to implement it without an NDA ? You'd only ever get this from M$ ! Up 'till now, it didn't really bother me 'cos I had a modem that did hardware compression. Now I have an ISDN line and nothing compresses anything - I've got a vested interest. My previous message was more of an appeal for somebody with a bit of clout (this *is* freebsd-isp) to talk to Stac or M$ to convince them to give me written permission to implement their protocol. They won't really say much to me except ``NDA'' :-( > -- > Andre -- Brian Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Aug 9 17:13:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from velvet.sensation.net.au (multippp0-velvet-brunswick.sensation.net.au [203.20.114.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07DE01519C for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 17:13:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rowan@sensation.net.au) Received: from localhost (rowan@localhost) by velvet.sensation.net.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA06689 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 10:09:39 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from rowan@sensation.net.au) X-Authentication-Warning: velvet.sensation.net.au: rowan owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 10:09:38 +1000 (EST) From: Rowan Crowe To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problem with user level ppp, using multilink functionality In-Reply-To: <199908091831.TAA01465@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 9 Aug 1999, Brian Somers wrote: > > > Does *ANYONE* know anybody that could push some buttons in this area > > > and either get deflate/predictor supported on some server hardware or > > > else get Microsoft/Stac to allow me to emulate their compression > > > algorithms ? It would make a huge difference ! ... > Up 'till now, it didn't really bother me 'cos I had a modem that did > hardware compression. Now I have an ISDN line and nothing compresses > anything - I've got a vested interest. After seeing transfer rates of 65kbytes/sec over 2 x 33.6k modems using deflate/predictor1 compression I'm also hanging out for compression that's compatible with a typical proprietary router such as a Cisco. Admittedly it was a highly compressible text file, but I'm sure there is still some benefit to be had in general use. My upstream provider doesn't even do _VJ_!! (I think this is more a policy decision though...) I also have a direct peering link with another ISP, FreeBSD at my end, Cisco his end. In this case there's no policy problem, just "compression incompatibility" - VJ is the best we've been able to acheive. Cheers. -- Rowan Crowe http://www.rowan.sensation.net.au/ Sensation Internet Services http://www.sensation.net.au/ Melbourne, Australia Phone: +61-3-9388-9260 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Aug 9 21:25:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from linux1.usls.edu (linux1.usls.edu [202.47.133.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDCD7150EE for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 21:24:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from francis@usls.edu) Received: by linux1.usls.edu (Postfix, from userid 500) id A03A775CA; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 11:51:55 +0800 (PHT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by linux1.usls.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ADC075BC for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 11:51:55 +0800 (PHT) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 11:51:55 +0800 (JST) From: "Francis A. Vidal" To: FreeBSD ISP Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi all, we are planning of giving our students, faculty and staff e-mail accounts this year (7,500 population). i have evaluated two web interface packages -- IMP and TWIG -- which are both very good and offer a nice interface to the e-mail system. however, adding, deleting, disabling, and changing user information is quite a task for 7,200 accounts with only a couple of full-time staff. what tools do we need to manage these accounts? it would also be nice if all the accounts were stored in a SQL server. i have looked into the possibility of using these packages: OS -- FreeBSD SQL server -- MySql 3.22.25 MTA -- Postfix (supports SQL server lookups) IMAP & POP -- Cyrus Web Interface -- TWIG or IMP Web Server -- Apache 1.3.6 + SSL + PHP3 the problem is how to `glue' these packages together for easier management. it's also good if the users were able to change the password themselves via a web interface and not to call us everytime they want to change their passwords. -- francis vidal university of st. la salle, bacolod city, philippines . . . . . . . PGP key available via e-mail / subject: get PGP key u s l s N E T tel. nos. (6334).435.2324 / 433.3526 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 10 2: 4:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from storm.FreeBSD.org.uk (storm.freebsd.org.uk [194.242.128.198]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EEED1527C for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 02:04:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by storm.FreeBSD.org.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA86054; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 10:03:49 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (brian@localhost.lan.Awfulhak.org [127.0.0.1]) by keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA00773; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 08:46:20 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <199908100746.IAA00773@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Rowan Crowe Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ppp + multilink problem - followup In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 10 Aug 1999 00:32:21 +1000." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 08:46:20 +0100 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Just as a followup here's the relevant part of ppp.log on the server and > my commentary... > > Aug 10 00:14:22 core1-mel ppp[29387]: Phase: Using interface: tun0 > Aug 10 00:14:22 core1-mel ppp[29387]: Phase: deflink: Created in closed state > Aug 10 00:14:22 core1-mel ppp[29213]: Phase: Using interface: tun1 > Aug 10 00:14:22 core1-mel ppp[29387]: Phase: bundle: Establish > Aug 10 00:14:22 core1-mel ppp[29213]: Phase: deflink: Created in closed state > Aug 10 00:14:22 core1-mel ppp[29387]: Phase: deflink: closed -> opening > Aug 10 00:14:22 core1-mel ppp[29387]: Phase: 1: Cloned in closed state > Aug 10 00:14:22 core1-mel ppp[29387]: Phase: 2: Cloned in closed state > Aug 10 00:14:22 core1-mel ppp[29387]: Warning: remove: Cannot delete links that aren't closed > Aug 10 00:14:22 core1-mel ppp[29387]: Warning: link deflink remove: Failed 2 > > ...is this a warning I can ignore or an indication of a problem? It's as it says. When ppp starts in -direct mode, it uses descriptor 0 as the incoming link. The default name is ``deflink''. You're trying to delete this link, but it's open so ppp refuses. You shouldn't be trying to delete it - and you shouldn't be cloning links wither unless you're going to use them. This'll stop ppp from exiting.... > Aug 10 00:14:22 core1-mel ppp[29387]: Phase: PPP Started (direct mode). > Aug 10 00:14:22 core1-mel ppp[29213]: Phase: bundle: Establish > Aug 10 00:14:22 core1-mel ppp[29213]: Phase: deflink: closed -> opening > Aug 10 00:14:22 core1-mel ppp[29213]: Phase: 1: Cloned in closed state > Aug 10 00:14:22 core1-mel ppp[29213]: Phase: 2: Cloned in closed state > Aug 10 00:14:22 core1-mel ppp[29213]: Warning: remove: Cannot delete links that aren't closed > Aug 10 00:14:22 core1-mel ppp[29213]: Warning: link deflink remove: Failed 2 > Aug 10 00:14:22 core1-mel ppp[29213]: Phase: PPP Started (direct mode). > Aug 10 00:14:23 core1-mel ppp[29387]: Phase: deflink: Connected! > Aug 10 00:14:23 core1-mel ppp[29387]: Phase: deflink: opening -> lcp > Aug 10 00:14:23 core1-mel ppp[29213]: Phase: deflink: Connected! > Aug 10 00:14:23 core1-mel ppp[29213]: Phase: deflink: opening -> lcp > Aug 10 00:14:23 core1-mel ppp[29387]: Phase: mp: Listening on /var/run/ppp--01-6d70 > Aug 10 00:14:23 core1-mel ppp[29387]: Phase: First link: deflink > Aug 10 00:14:23 core1-mel ppp[29387]: Phase: deflink: lcp -> open > Aug 10 00:14:23 core1-mel ppp[29387]: Phase: bundle: Network > Aug 10 00:14:24 core1-mel ppp[29213]: Phase: mp: Transfer link on /var/run/ppp--01-6d70 > Aug 10 00:14:24 core1-mel ppp[29387]: Phase: Receiving datalink > Aug 10 00:14:24 core1-mel ppp[29213]: Phase: Transmitting datalink deflink > Aug 10 00:14:24 core1-mel ppp[29213]: Phase: bundle: Dead > Aug 10 00:14:24 core1-mel ppp[29387]: Phase: Rename link deflink to deflink-1 > Aug 10 00:14:24 core1-mel ppp[29387]: Phase: deflink-1: Transferred in lcp state > Aug 10 00:14:24 core1-mel ppp[29387]: Phase: deflink-1: lcp -> open > Aug 10 00:14:24 core1-mel ppp[29866]: Phase: 29213 -> 29866: Passed session control > > Multilink successfully established, the 2 PIDs of ppp are 29387 and 29866 What really happened: pid 29213 transferred it's link to pid 29387. 29387 now does all the work. Normally, if you hadn't cloned things, ppp would now change it's process name ``session owner'' and wait to be killed by 29387 (when it's finished with the link). However, because 29213 still owns some other links (the ones you cloned), it fork()s and 29213 becomes the session owner, but the new pid (29866) continues to run with the cloned links.... after all, these could subsequently be changed to auto links and another connection could be established etc etc. > *pulls out cable of one of the modems at the client end* > > The client end has detected the carrier drop after a few seconds, but the > server end is still sitting there doing nothing. According to 'who' the > modem is still connected at the server end. What's supposed to happen under these circumstances: 29387 does a TIOCMGET 1 second later and notices that the link has no carrier. It does the equivalent of a ``down'' and realizes that the link has a process id associated with it. It sends a signal to 29213. 29213 exits allowing the getty to be resurrected by init on the link. Because the link is type ``direct'', 29387 automatically removes the link. The end result: There's a getty running, 29387 knows nothing about the link and 29866 continues to fester. > As soon as the first link drops all IP traffic stops, and it will not > resume until both the stray PPP processes at the server are killed off and > the entire thing is redialled. This is because ppp still thinks there are two links and it's queued data on the dead link. Until this data arrives at the other end for reassembly (which it never will), the data stream will be blocked. This is the crux of the prolem - if we ignore the stray process that's the result of the ``clone''. I've asked over and over that you enable debug logging so that we can see if ppp thinks that the link supports carrier. It would also be nice if you could enable a diagnostic port (``set server /tmp/tun%d "" 0177'' would be good) and connect to the relevant process and do a ``link deflink-1 show physical''. It should say near the top if carrier was found on the link. > After a few minutes the lack of LQR replies causes this... > > Aug 10 00:19:57 core1-mel ppp[29387]: Phase: deflink-1: ** Too many LQR packets lost ** > Aug 10 00:19:57 core1-mel ppp[29387]: Phase: deflink-1: open -> lcp > Aug 10 00:19:57 core1-mel ppp[29387]: Phase: deflink-1: Disconnected! > Aug 10 00:19:57 core1-mel ppp[29387]: Phase: deflink-1: Connect time: 333 secs: 1075 octets in, 781 octets out > Aug 10 00:19:57 core1-mel ppp[29387]: Phase: total 5 bytes/sec, peak 43 bytes/sec on Tue Aug 10 00:19:57 1999 > Aug 10 00:19:57 core1-mel ppp[29387]: Phase: deflink-1: lcp -> closed > > ppp pid 29387 has detected the link is down, but it's still running: > > 29387 a1 Ss+ 0:01.39 /usr/sbin/ppp -direct mp 29387 should still has the original link that it was started with - that wasn't disconnected was it ? > I'm wondering why it doesn't exit, am I doing something wrong in the > config? Perhaps it's sitting there in passive mode waiting for a new > connection to start? (even though it never will as long as it's attached > to cuaa1 which is now an offline modem) > > If it helps this is what top says about 29387... > > PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND > 29387 sbruns 2 0 852K 1368K select 0:02 0.00% 0.00% ppp > > Thank you all for your suggestions so far. By the way, this is the ppp > that came with 3.2-RELEASE (recompiled on the 2.2.8-R machines) - > unfortunately it didn't fix the problem. > > BTW, why does the originating ppp occasionally do strange things like > initiate a *new* dial 15-20 sec after I kill -TERM it? Is this the correct > way to shut it down? (I just did it then and it's dialled about 4-6 times > before exiting) Depends on your link mode. If you connect to the diagnostic socket (created with ``set server'' above) and do a ``show links'' or ``link * show physical'' it'll tell you the mode. ``link * show datalink'' should tell you about redials and stuff. > > Cheers. > > > -- > Rowan Crowe http://www.rowan.sensation.net.au/ > Sensation Internet Services http://www.sensation.net.au/ > Melbourne, Australia Phone: +61-3-9388-9260 -- Brian Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 10 3:35:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mailtoaster1.pipeline.ch (mailtoaster1.pipeline.ch [62.48.0.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BE44415264 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 03:35:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from oppermann@pipeline.ch) Received: (qmail 25374 invoked from network); 10 Aug 1999 10:32:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO pipeline.ch) ([195.134.128.41]) (envelope-sender ) by mailtoaster1.pipeline.ch (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 10 Aug 1999 10:32:32 -0000 Message-ID: <37AFFFE3.AC1DAFFB@pipeline.ch> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 12:33:07 +0200 From: Andre Oppermann X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brian Somers Cc: Brian Somers , jonathan michaels , Rowan Crowe , Josef Karthauser , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problem with user level ppp, using multilink functionality References: <199908091831.TAA01465@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Brian Somers wrote: > > > Brian Somers wrote: > > > The *real* problem with user-ppp in this arena is that it doesn't do > > > any of the compression algorithms that the hardware at most ISPs does > > > - ie, MPPC or STAC. > > > > > > Does *ANYONE* know anybody that could push some buttons in this area > > > and either get deflate/predictor supported on some server hardware or > > > else get Microsoft/Stac to allow me to emulate their compression > > > algorithms ? It would make a huge difference ! > > > > RFC1967, RFC1974, RFC2118, RFC2395 has some hints on the subject. > > Indeed. I've read these and even talked to the people mentioned. > They say that I must be a company (I can do that) and must sign an > NDA (I won't do that). > > I don't see why I have to sign an NDA to write some software using > rfcs. The MPPC spec publishes the format, but nobody's allowed to > implement it without an NDA ? You'd only ever get this from M$ ! > > Up 'till now, it didn't really bother me 'cos I had a modem that did > hardware compression. Now I have an ISDN line and nothing compresses > anything - I've got a vested interest. > > My previous message was more of an appeal for somebody with a bit of > clout (this *is* freebsd-isp) to talk to Stac or M$ to convince them > to give me written permission to implement their protocol. They won't > really say much to me except ``NDA'' :-( OK, lemme see what they tell me when I ask them through my company. -- Andre To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 10 3:42:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from cronus.medianetwork.se (cronus.medianetwork.se [193.14.204.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30C85153BC for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 03:42:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from support@junglenote.com) Received: from junglenote.com (digital12.medianetwork.se [193.14.204.230]) by cronus.medianetwork.se (8.9.3/8.7) with SMTP id MAA29263 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 12:05:45 +0200 Received: from enigmatic [127.0.0.1] by junglenote.com [localhost] with SMTP (MDaemon.v2.7.SP5.R) for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 12:13:04 +0200 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 12:13:03 +0200 Message-ID: <01BEE329.B20F6430.support@junglenote.com> From: Dan Larsson To: "[FreeBSD-ISP-List] (E-post)" Subject: email to fax and/or sms query Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 12:13:02 +0200 Organization: Portabla Datorer AB X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet-e-post/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Return-Path: support@junglenote.com Reply-To: support@junglenote.com Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi! Has someone tested sendmail --> hylafax in an isp enviornment? Does it cope? Are there any ready to go solutions for mail to sms? Thanks! /D To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 10 3:49:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ender.ncsa.es (ender.ncsa.es [194.179.50.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DDAF15259 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 03:49:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesusr@ncsa.es) Received: from ender.ncsa.es (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ender.ncsa.es (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA19305; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 12:51:04 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jesusr@ncsa.es) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <01BEE329.B20F6430.support@junglenote.com> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 12:51:04 +0200 (CEST) Reply-To: jesusr@ncsa.es Organization: Nexus Comunicaciones, S.A. From: Jesus Rodriguez To: Dan Larsson Subject: RE: email to fax and/or sms query Cc: "[FreeBSD-ISP-List] (E-post)" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 10-Aug-99 Dan Larsson wrote: > Hi! > > Has someone tested sendmail --> hylafax in an isp enviornment? Yes... and works great! Saludos JesusR. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 10 4: 0:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from storm.FreeBSD.org.uk (storm.freebsd.org.uk [194.242.128.198]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDE2214A2E for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 04:00:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by storm.FreeBSD.org.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA87076; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 11:58:45 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (brian@localhost.lan.Awfulhak.org [127.0.0.1]) by keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA01126; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 12:00:34 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <199908101100.MAA01126@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Andre Oppermann Cc: Brian Somers , Brian Somers , jonathan michaels , Rowan Crowe , Josef Karthauser , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problem with user level ppp, using multilink functionality In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 10 Aug 1999 12:33:07 +0200." <37AFFFE3.AC1DAFFB@pipeline.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 12:00:34 +0100 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Brian Somers wrote: > > > > > Brian Somers wrote: > > > > The *real* problem with user-ppp in this arena is that it doesn't do > > > > any of the compression algorithms that the hardware at most ISPs does > > > > - ie, MPPC or STAC. > > > > > > > > Does *ANYONE* know anybody that could push some buttons in this area > > > > and either get deflate/predictor supported on some server hardware or > > > > else get Microsoft/Stac to allow me to emulate their compression > > > > algorithms ? It would make a huge difference ! > > > > > > RFC1967, RFC1974, RFC2118, RFC2395 has some hints on the subject. > > > > Indeed. I've read these and even talked to the people mentioned. > > They say that I must be a company (I can do that) and must sign an > > NDA (I won't do that). > > > > I don't see why I have to sign an NDA to write some software using > > rfcs. The MPPC spec publishes the format, but nobody's allowed to > > implement it without an NDA ? You'd only ever get this from M$ ! > > > > Up 'till now, it didn't really bother me 'cos I had a modem that did > > hardware compression. Now I have an ISDN line and nothing compresses > > anything - I've got a vested interest. > > > > My previous message was more of an appeal for somebody with a bit of > > clout (this *is* freebsd-isp) to talk to Stac or M$ to convince them > > to give me written permission to implement their protocol. They won't > > really say much to me except ``NDA'' :-( > > OK, lemme see what they tell me when I ask them through my company. Thank you. Looks like I'll owe you more than a few pints by the end of the month :-) > -- > Andre -- Brian Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 10 4: 0:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from binnen.mail.nl.demon.net (binnen.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.72.192]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 778D714D40 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 04:00:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from arjan@nl.demon.net) Received: from inventionz.noc.nl.demon.net ([194.159.72.199]) by binnen.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 11E9cV-000PFm-00; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 12:59:03 +0200 Received: from arjan (helo=localhost) by inventionz.noc.nl.demon.net with local-esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11E9iE-000NFZ-00; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 13:04:58 +0200 Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 13:04:58 +0200 (CEST) From: Arjan van der Oest X-Sender: arjan@inventionz.noc.nl.demon.net To: Dan Larsson Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: email to fax and/or sms query In-Reply-To: <01BEE329.B20F6430.support@junglenote.com> Message-ID: X-no-archive: yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 10 Aug 1999, Dan Larsson wrote: > Has someone tested sendmail --> hylafax in an isp enviornment? > Does it cope? Are there any ready to go solutions for mail to sms? We're running a e-mail gateway for TPC here at Demon Internet (Both in the UK and in Amsterdam). I don't know anything about the actual setup, as we only provide the hardware facilities and the boxes are completely maintained by TPC. I do know however that the only problems we're seeing here are hardware failures (the scsi-rs-232 board nieeds to be kicked once in a while). ao -- Jes: xntp is your friend. The evil empire of Redmond is not. Evil Empire is a registered trademark of Ronald Reagan's sole functioning brain cell. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 10 6:11:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from filer2.isc.rit.edu (filer2.isc.rit.edu [129.21.3.107]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53B2B14BDA for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 06:11:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcptch@osfmail.isc.rit.edu) Received: from grace ("port 2210"@[129.21.3.102]) by osfmail.isc.rit.edu (PMDF V5.2-32 #34621) with SMTP id <0FG900NIG2EBB6@osfmail.isc.rit.edu> for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 08:51:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by grace (5.65v4.0/1.1.19.2/21Sep98-0910AM) id AA01465; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 08:52:01 -0400 Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 08:52:00 -0400 From: Jon Parise Subject: Re: your mail In-reply-to: ; from francis@usls.edu on Tue, Aug 10, 1999 at 11:51:55AM +0800 To: FreeBSD ISP Mail-followup-to: FreeBSD ISP Message-id: <19990810085200.G31932@osfmail.isc.rit.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.3i X-Operating-System: OSF1 V4.0 (alpha) References: Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Aug 10, 1999 at 11:51:55AM +0800, Francis A. Vidal wrote: > however, adding, deleting, disabling, and changing user information is > quite a task for 7,200 accounts with only a couple of full-time staff. > what tools do we need to manage these accounts? it would also be nice if > all the accounts were stored in a SQL server. i have looked into the > possibility of using these packages: > > OS -- FreeBSD > SQL server -- MySql 3.22.25 > MTA -- Postfix (supports SQL server lookups) > IMAP & POP -- Cyrus > Web Interface -- TWIG or IMP > Web Server -- Apache 1.3.6 + SSL + PHP3 It looks like you could easily get away with storing your user information in a mysql database. Use 'mod_auth_mysql' to authenticate web users in apache. I'm not sure if cyrus will play nice with sql, so that might be your only hack. You could also run cistron radius with the mysql patches. I believe freebsd will can do authentication from a radius server using a pam module. I haven't really played with this before, so this information might be incorrect. > the problem is how to `glue' these packages together for easier > management. it's also good if the users were able to change the password > themselves via a web interface and not to call us everytime they want to > change their passwords. That should be trivial if you're storing your user information in a database. Just make sure they're properly authenticated beforehand and that the connection is secure. -- Jon Parise (parise@pobox.com) . Rochester Inst. of Technology http://www.pobox.com/~parise/ : Computer Science House Member To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 10 7:26:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from heaven.gigo.com (heaven.gigo.com [209.0.55.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFC99153FF for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 07:26:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jfesler@gigo.com) Received: from heaven.gigo.com (heaven.gigo.com [209.0.55.69]) by heaven.gigo.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 458AF5FD; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 07:22:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 07:22:18 -0700 (PDT) From: To: Dan Larsson Cc: "[FreeBSD-ISP-List] (E-post)" Subject: Re: email to fax and/or sms query In-Reply-To: <01BEE329.B20F6430.support@junglenote.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Has someone tested sendmail --> hylafax in an isp enviornment? > Does it cope? Are there any ready to go solutions for mail to sms? Depending on your volumn.. possibly look at efax. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 10 7:26:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from heaven.gigo.com (heaven.gigo.com [209.0.55.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D98481541D for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 07:26:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jfesler@gigo.com) Received: from heaven.gigo.com (heaven.gigo.com [209.0.55.69]) by heaven.gigo.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74D3862E; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 07:22:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 07:22:46 -0700 (PDT) From: To: Dan Larsson Cc: "[FreeBSD-ISP-List] (E-post)" Subject: Re: email to fax and/or sms query In-Reply-To: <01BEE329.B20F6430.support@junglenote.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Has someone tested sendmail --> hylafax in an isp enviornment? > Does it cope? Are there any ready to go solutions for mail to sms? As for SMS, most SMS providers I've seen, also have their own email gateway.. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 10 7:26:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from volodya.prime.net.ua (volodya.prime.net.ua [195.64.229.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 887BF15431 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 07:26:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andyo@prime.net.ua) Received: from prime.net.ua (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by volodya.prime.net.ua (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA11182 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 17:28:09 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from andyo@prime.net.ua) Message-ID: <37B036F3.E9B8E7C9@prime.net.ua> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 17:28:04 +0300 From: "Andy V. Oleynik" Organization: M-Info X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en, ru, uk MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: HDLC error again (again not fatal for connection:) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm very curious about last HDLC msg during ppp session. I've replaced pppd with ppp on modems pool. I did as I planned - getty rases ppp up with -direct flag and ttyN as profile. Everything works great but this HDLC error... It's not fatal for connection - session with client still active while I'm writing this post. I think Brian have answer surely :) Aug 10 17:01:36 gate ppp2[9179]: tun1: CCP: deflink: SendConfigAck(2) state = Ack-Rcvd Aug 10 17:01:36 gate ppp2[9179]: tun1: CCP: [EMPTY] Aug 10 17:01:36 gate ppp2[9179]: tun1: CCP: deflink: State change Ack-Rcvd --> Opened Aug 10 17:01:36 gate ppp2[9179]: tun1: CCP: deflink: LayerUp. Aug 10 17:01:36 gate ppp2[9179]: tun1: CCP: deflink: Out = none[-1], In = none[-1] Aug 10 17:01:36 gate ppp2[9179]: tun1: CCP: deflink: RecvTerminateReq(3) state = Opened Aug 10 17:01:36 gate ppp2[9179]: tun1: CCP: deflink: LayerDown. Aug 10 17:01:36 gate ppp2[9179]: tun1: CCP: deflink: SendTerminateAck(3) state = Opened Aug 10 17:01:36 gate ppp2[9179]: tun1: CCP: deflink: State change Opened --> Stopping Aug 10 17:01:38 gate ppp2[9179]: tun1: CCP: deflink: LayerFinish. Aug 10 17:01:38 gate ppp2[9179]: tun1: CCP: deflink: State change Stopping --> Stopped Aug 10 17:02:33 gate ppp2[9179]: tun1: Phase: deflink: HDLC errors -> FCS: 0, ADDR: 0, COMD: 0, PROTO: 2 -- WBW Andy V. Oleynik (When U work in virtual office prime.net.ua's U have good chance to obtain system administrator virtual money ö%-) +380442448363 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 10 13:58:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from freja.webgiro.com (freja.webgiro.com [212.209.29.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2B0215476 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 13:58:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from abial@webgiro.com) Received: by freja.webgiro.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 3FC871911; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 22:58:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freja.webgiro.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CE694A0B; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 22:58:49 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 22:58:49 +0200 (CEST) From: Andrzej Bialecki To: Jon Parise Cc: FreeBSD ISP Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: <19990810085200.G31932@osfmail.isc.rit.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 10 Aug 1999, Jon Parise wrote: > You could also run cistron radius with the mysql patches. I > believe freebsd will can do authentication from a radius server > using a pam module. I haven't really played with this before, so > this information might be incorrect. Yes, it works very well. Andrzej Bialecki // WebGiro AB, Sweden (http://www.webgiro.com) // ------------------------------------------------------------------- // ------ FreeBSD: The Power to Serve. http://www.freebsd.org -------- // --- Small & Embedded FreeBSD: http://www.freebsd.org/~picobsd/ ---- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 10 14:40:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.iol.ie (mail2.mail.iol.ie [194.125.2.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0FFC14D41 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 14:40:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from martind@iol.ie) Received: from oemcomputer (dialup-299.cork.iol.ie [193.203.148.43]) by mail.iol.ie Sendmail (v8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA86482 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 22:40:20 +0100 (IST) Message-ID: <003b01bee378$e911ef80$2b94cbc1@oemcomputer> From: "Martind" To: Subject: online control panel Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 22:40:00 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0038_01BEE381.47877AA0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0038_01BEE381.47877AA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I want is an online control panel to allow webusers to change their = e-mail setup/add pop's/ alter passwords, view stats/ change unix = passwords etc, is there anything like this, or even does SOME of these things around, I = know some have been developed inhouse, im just wondering if there is = anything you can download, Thanks for your time Martin ------=_NextPart_000_0038_01BEE381.47877AA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I want is an online control panel to = allow =20 webusers to change their e-mail setup/add pop's/ alter passwords, view = stats/=20 change unix passwords etc,
is there anything like this, or even = does SOME=20 of these things around, I know some have been developed inhouse, im just = wondering if there is anything you can download,
Thanks for your time
Martin
------=_NextPart_000_0038_01BEE381.47877AA0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 10 15:22:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.delanet.com (hermes.delanet.com [208.9.136.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C10E814CA7 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 15:22:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stevec@delanet.com) Received: (qmail 77683 invoked from network); 10 Aug 1999 22:23:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO delanet.com) (208.9.136.123) by mail.delanet.com with SMTP; 10 Aug 1999 22:23:42 -0000 Message-ID: <37B0A5DC.6B983446@delanet.com> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 18:21:16 -0400 From: "Stephen C. Comoletti" Organization: DelaNET, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Problems with 100Base on Qlogic 1040b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've recently upgraded to a 100base switch and put all of our main servers on it. Some of the servers are running FreeBSD 3.2r with a Qlogic 1040b controller on the MB (DEC 300i+ workstations). Problem I am having is that they refuse to negotiate at 100base on powerup or reboot. I added a 'ifconfig de0 media 100BaseTX' to the rc.conf for them, and while I have a green light on the switch, until I ifconfig down, then up the interface, it is not active. My 3.1 boxes seem somewhat more tollerant to this problem. I've put new cables in to be sure they were not an issue. I also have several MS NT4 machines on the same hardware which do not have any problems at all, which leads me to believe it's unique to this paticular driver....Are there any updates to this driver and/or changes I can make to fix this? Otherwise I'm stuck with a machine that is unable to have an unattended reboot or I run at 10Base again. Please cc me in any replies as I'm not on this list. Thanks in advance, -- Stephen Comoletti Systems Administrator Delanet, Inc. http://www.delanet.com ph: (302) 326-5800 fax: (302) 326-5802 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 10 15:31:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.aye.net (phoenix.aye.net [206.185.8.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CBBB014E6D for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 15:31:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from barrett@phoenix.aye.net) Received: (qmail 10807 invoked by uid 1000); 3 Aug 1999 13:57:31 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 3 Aug 1999 13:57:31 -0000 Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 09:57:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Barrett Richardson To: Steve Hovey Cc: Mitch Vincent , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Loadbalance webservers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org You can just have multiple address records www IN A x.x.x.3 IN A x.x.x.4 . . . IN A x.x.x.n On Tue, 3 Aug 1999, Steve Hovey wrote: > > Anyone know a good place they can point me to for the how-tos of round > robin DNS? > > On Mon, 2 Aug 1999, Mitch Vincent wrote: > > > Isn't the most common way of load balancing something like a web server, > > just round-robin DNS? > > > > I know there are several hardware solutions for load balancing, but I'd say > > round-robin is the most commonly used non-hardware method. > > > > > > -Mitch > > > > "When all your plans fail, backup, re-group and press on. The only real > > failure is quitting..." > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Craig W. Shaver > > To: LutzRab@omc.net ; freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > > > > Date: Monday, August 02, 1999 5:04 PM > > Subject: Re: Loadbalance webservers > > > > > > > > > >> Subject: Loadbalance webservers > > >> Reply-To: LutzRab@omc.net > > >> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11) > > >> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > > >> X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > >> Precedence: bulk > > >> > > >> We have the problem to split the traffic to a busy website on two or > > >> more webservers. This needs to be done in a way that the client doesn't > > >> realize that there are different machines serving the same domain. > > >> > > >> We use 3.2.STABLE with apache 1.3.6/php. > > >> > > >> Is there an approach to do this under FreeBSD? > > >> > > >> I guess that yahoo.com does not have just one frontend webserver... > > >> > > >> lutz rabing > > >> -OMCnet Internet Service GmbH- > > >> > > > > > > > > >I've seen two that work pretty well, but they are not shareware/open > > >source. One method is to use cisco local director. The cisco people > > >are coming out with a revision on this that allows you to run a load > > >input back to the director from a program running at a specific port on > > >your individual web server. That would allow you to determine a factor > > >that tells the cisco box how loaded you are :). That could be > > >determined by load, cpu utilization, memory usage, swap, etc. The > > >current version of local director uses the number of connections and any > > >predetermined heuristic that you input for load balancing. > > > > > >Another solution is Resonate. I am currently using that on > > >http://translator.go.com/ for both the front ends and back ends. It is > > >very flexible and can be configured to do all sorts of custom load > > >balancing. It can even be used to map a single port to multiple ports. > > >They have a version for Linux, but not for freebsd. Maybe if enough of > > >us ask they could do one for freebsd. They seem to be pretty responsive > > >to my questions. They run agents on multiple servers that have been > > >ifconfig'd to answer to the same ip. The agents talk to each other and > > >do heartbeats. One agent is the master, another is the failover > > >scheduler, and the rest are just plain servers. This package is easy to > > >set up and administer. I like it. > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > >cshaver@infoseek.com (408)543-6451 > > >Craig Shaver, Productivity Group > > >POB 60458 Sunnyvale, CA 94088 (650)390-0654 > > >http://www.progroup.com/ mailto:craig@progroup.com > > > > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 10 17:10:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.aye.net (phoenix.aye.net [206.185.8.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AE858154D3 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 17:10:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from barrett@phoenix.aye.net) Received: (qmail 1337 invoked by uid 1000); 5 Aug 1999 00:03:02 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 5 Aug 1999 00:03:02 -0000 Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 20:03:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Barrett Richardson To: Luis Moreno Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Troubles with Apache on FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <37A8AF77.7515952F@cantv.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Try this as a cgi script. ----- cut ---- #!/bin/sh echo Content-type: text/html echo echo "" echo "
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ulimit  -a          #check resource limits
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/usr/sbin/pstat -T  #check fd usage
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/usr/sbin/swapinfo -k  #check swap usage
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" echo "" --------- cut ---------- There is also a potential gotcha with login.conf to look out for. The resource limits may be different for daemon processes than for user processes. Apache could have different resource limits depending on whether it was started from an rc file at boot time, or from the command line. - Barrett On Wed, 4 Aug 1999, Luis Moreno wrote: > Hello there. >=20 > I=B4m runing Apache Web Server/1.3.0 with Ben-SSL/1.19 and > FrontPage/3.0.4.2 PHP/3.0.6 on FreeBSD 2.2.6 >=20 > A snapshot of the head of top command is like this: > Last pid: 8175; load averages: 0.71, 0.19, 0.06 > 17:15:22 > 126 processes: 2 running, 124 sleeping CPU states: 3.1% user, 0.0% > nice, 3.5% system, 1.2% interrupt, 92.2% idle > Mem: 137M Active, 44M Inact, 30M Wired, 39M Cache, 8348K Buf, 788K Free > Swap: 512M Total, 64K Used, 512M Free >=20 > The server seems to be ok, but eventualy I=B4m geting problems with the > execution of cgi script=B4s. This is the error message from the error > Apache logs > [Wed Aug 4 17:13:17 1999] [error] (35)Resource temporarily unavailable: > couldn't spawn child process: /var/www/cgi-bin/Count.cgi >=20 > Did anybody get=B4s the same? >=20 > Thanks in advance for yor help. >=20 > Luis. >=20 >=20 >=20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message >=20 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 10 19:51:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mailb.telia.com (mailb.telia.com [194.22.194.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D0D714D06 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 19:50:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from girgen@partitur.se) Received: from stordatan.telia.com (t7o62p15.telia.com [195.198.199.135]) by mailb.telia.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA00224 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 04:50:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: from partitur.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by stordatan.telia.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id EAA28120 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 04:50:32 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from girgen@partitur.se) Message-ID: <37B0E4F8.4C7D7235@partitur.se> Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 04:50:32 +0200 From: Palle Girgensohn Organization: Partitur X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: sv, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: fresh fbsd-stable and real audio server hangs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi! I'm experiencing something strange: I just updated one of our servers this week-end, and now the real audio server won't run. I have rmserver on a bunch of similar machines, and it works fine for them with practically the same setup. I updated the system from FreeBSD-3-STABLE as of March 31st to FreeBSD-3-STABLE as of Aug 8. I also added a second processor. It works very satisfactory, apart from this. There's no way to access any of the rmserver's services; there's no answer on the http admin port either.... When trying to connect with rvplayer, the connection hangs on "Contacting host" until I kill the server. I then get an error message 29, server disconnected. The log files are never touched. I'm of course sending this to the RealAudio support folks, but I get the feeling they might not be able to help, since this seems pretty OS related (I updated the OS, other machines run fine with the same realaudio installation but with older (July 7th) FreeBSD systems). I'm not to familiar at debugging this sort of thing, but I can see a few differencies: on the machines where rmserver works fine, lsof -i reveals: # lsof -i | grep rmserver rmserver 38163 root 6u inet 0xca8caa80 0t0 TCP pingpong-ing.hj.se:7070 (LISTEN) rmserver 38163 root 7u inet 0xca8ca720 0t0 TCP pingpong-ing.hj.se:rtsp (LISTEN) rmserver 38163 root 8u inet 0xca8c6720 0t0 TCP pingpong-ing.hj.se:8080 (LISTEN) rmserver 38163 root 9u inet 0xca8c72a0 0t0 TCP pingpong-ing.hj.se:2737 (LISTEN) rmserver 38163 root 10u inet 0xca8cd3c0 0t0 TCP localhost:7070 (LISTEN) rmserver 38163 root 11u inet 0xca8c82a0 0t0 TCP localhost:rtsp (LISTEN) rmserver 38163 root 12u inet 0xca8c7720 0t0 TCP localhost:8080 (LISTEN) rmserver 38163 root 13u inet 0xca8ceba0 0t0 TCP localhost:2737 (LISTEN) rmserver 38165 root 5u inet 0xca8cc3c0 0t0 TCP *:4040 (LISTEN) rmserver 38167 root 5u inet 0xca8c8720 0t0 TCP *:mmcc (LISTEN) rmserver 38170 root 5u inet 0xca8cb960 0t0 TCP *:9090 (LISTEN) rmserver 38172 root 7u inet 0xca853d80 0t0 UDP *:1131 rmserver 38172 root 8u inet 0xca853de0 0t0 UDP *:6770 while on the bad machine, the last "*:port#" rows are missing: rmserver 62759 root 6u inet 0xc9f01de0 0t0 TCP puka.partitur.se:7070 (LISTEN) rmserver 62759 root 7u inet 0xc9f12720 0t0 TCP puka.partitur.se:rtsp (LISTEN) rmserver 62759 root 8u inet 0xc9f0e3c0 0t0 TCP puka.partitur.se:8080 (LISTEN) rmserver 62759 root 9u inet 0xc9f124e0 0t0 TCP puka.partitur.se:3098 (LISTEN) rmserver 62759 root 10u inet 0xc9f11180 0t0 TCP localhost.partitur.se:7070 (LISTEN) rmserver 62759 root 11u inet 0xc9f09180 0t0 TCP localhost.partitur.se:rtsp (LISTEN) rmserver 62759 root 12u inet 0xc9f07960 0t0 TCP localhost.partitur.se:8080 (LISTEN) rmserver 62759 root 13u inet 0xc9f10de0 0t0 TCP localhost.partitur.se:3098 (LISTEN) ------------------- When running the server from the command line with no redirect to dev/null, I can see it stopping before reading all of the Plugins: # /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Bin/rmserver /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/rmserver.cfg Creating Server Space... Starting RealServer 6.0 Core... Loading RealServer License Files... I: Loading Plugins... I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/adminfs.so.6.0 RealNetworks Admin File System I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/allow.so.6.0 RealNetworks Basic Allowance Plugin I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/archplin.so.6.0 RealNetworks Live Archiver Plugin I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/audplin.so.6.0 RealNetworks AU Renderer Plugin I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/audplin.so.6.0 RealNetworks PCM Renderer Plugin I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/audplin.so.6.0 RealNetworks AU File Format Plugin I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/audplin.so.6.0 RealNetworks WAVE File Format Plugin I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/audplin.so.6.0 RealNetworks AIFF File Format Plugin I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/audplin.so.6.0 RealNetworks DVI4 Renderer Plugin I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/authmgr.so.6.0 RealNetworks Authentication Manager I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/bascauth.so.6.0 RealNetworks Basic Authenticator I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/dbmgr.so.6.0 RealNetworks Database Manager I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/dbwrap.so.6.0 RealNetworks 5.0 Database Wrapper I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/encoplin.so.6.0 RealNetworks Encoder Broadcast Plugin I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/farmplin.so.6.0 RealNetworks Farm Split Broadcast Plugin I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/liv3plin.so.6.0 RealNetworks Live Broadcast Plugin I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/logplin.so.6.0 RealNetworks Logging Plugin I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/plusplin.so.6.0 RealNetworks PlusURL File Format Plugin I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/pplyplin.so.6.0 RealNetworks Scalable Multicast Plugin I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/ppvallow.so.6.0 RealNetworks Pay Per View Allowance Plug I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/ppvbasic.so.6.0 RealNetworks FlatFile Database Plugin I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/ppvmsql.so.6.0 RealNetworks Mini SQL PPV Database Plugi I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/pxcbmp.so.6.0 RealNetworks RealPix BMP Codec Plugin I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/pxcgif.so.6.0 RealNetworks RealPix GIF Codec Plugin I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/pxcjpeg.so.6.0 RealNetworks RealPix JPEG Codec Plugin I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/pxexfx.so.6.0 RealNetworks RealPix External Effect Sam I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/pxff.so.6.0 RealNetworks RealPix Format Plugin I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/pxgf.so.6.0 RealNetworks GIF File Format Plugin I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/pxjf.so.6.0 RealNetworks JPEG File Format Plugin I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/ramplin.so.6.0 RealNetworks Ramgen File System I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/rmffplin.so.6.0 RealNetworks RealMedia File Format Plugi I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/rn5auth.so.6.0 RealNetworks RN5 Authenticator I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/rtffplin.so.6.0 RealNetworks RealText File Format Plugin I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/sdpplin.so.6.0 RealNetworks SDP Stream Description Plug I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/smlffpln.so.6.0 RealNetworks SMIL File Format Plugin I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/smonplin.so.6.0 RealNetworks System Monitor I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/spltplin.so.6.0 RealNetworks Splitter Broadcast Plugin I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/smplfsys.so.6.0 RealNetworks Local File System I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/swff.so.6.0 Shockwave Flash Format Plugin But the a working copy goes somewhat further: # /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Bin/rmserver /opt/etc/rmserver.cfg Creating Server Space... Starting RealServer 6.0 Core... Loading RealServer License Files... I: Loading Plugins... I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/adminfs.so.6.0 RealNetworks Admin File System I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/allow.so.6.0 RealNetworks Basic Allowance Plugin I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/archplin.so.6.0 RealNetworks Live Archiver Plugin I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/audplin.so.6.0 RealNetworks AU Renderer Plugin I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/audplin.so.6.0 RealNetworks PCM Renderer Plugin I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/audplin.so.6.0 RealNetworks AU File Format Plugin I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/audplin.so.6.0 RealNetworks WAVE File Format Plugin I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/audplin.so.6.0 RealNetworks AIFF File Format Plugin I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/audplin.so.6.0 RealNetworks DVI4 Renderer Plugin I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/authmgr.so.6.0 RealNetworks Authentication Manager I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/bascauth.so.6.0 RealNetworks Basic Authenticator I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/dbmgr.so.6.0 RealNetworks Database Manager I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/dbwrap.so.6.0 RealNetworks 5.0 Database Wrapper I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/encoplin.so.6.0 RealNetworks Encoder Broadcast Plugin I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/farmplin.so.6.0 RealNetworks Farm Split Broadcast Plugin I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/liv3plin.so.6.0 RealNetworks Live Broadcast Plugin I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/logplin.so.6.0 RealNetworks Logging Plugin I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/plusplin.so.6.0 RealNetworks PlusURL File Format Plugin I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/pplyplin.so.6.0 RealNetworks Scalable Multicast Plugin I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/ppvallow.so.6.0 RealNetworks Pay Per View Allowance Plug I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/ppvbasic.so.6.0 RealNetworks FlatFile Database Plugin I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/ppvmsql.so.6.0 RealNetworks Mini SQL PPV Database Plugi I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/pxcbmp.so.6.0 RealNetworks RealPix BMP Codec Plugin I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/pxcgif.so.6.0 RealNetworks RealPix GIF Codec Plugin I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/pxcjpeg.so.6.0 RealNetworks RealPix JPEG Codec Plugin I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/pxexfx.so.6.0 RealNetworks RealPix External Effect Sam I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/pxff.so.6.0 RealNetworks RealPix Format Plugin I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/pxgf.so.6.0 RealNetworks GIF File Format Plugin I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/pxjf.so.6.0 RealNetworks JPEG File Format Plugin I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/ramplin.so.6.0 RealNetworks Ramgen File System I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/rmffplin.so.6.0 RealNetworks RealMedia File Format Plugi I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/rn5auth.so.6.0 RealNetworks RN5 Authenticator I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/rtffplin.so.6.0 RealNetworks RealText File Format Plugin I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/sdpplin.so.6.0 RealNetworks SDP Stream Description Plug I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/smlffpln.so.6.0 RealNetworks SMIL File Format Plugin I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/smonplin.so.6.0 RealNetworks System Monitor I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/spltplin.so.6.0 RealNetworks Splitter Broadcast Plugin I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/smplfsys.so.6.0 RealNetworks Local File System I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/swff.so.6.0 Shockwave Flash Format Plugin I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/vidplin.so.6.0 RealNetworks RGB Renderer Plugin I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/vidplin.so.6.0 RealNetworks AVI File Format Plugin I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/vidplin.so.6.0 RealNetworks QuickTime File Format Plugi I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/vidplin.so.6.0 RealNetworks Active Stream Format Versio I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/vivff.so.6.0 VivoActive File Format Plugin The last five lines are missing from the bad server startup. $ rmserver -v Creating Server Space... Starting RealServer 6.0 Core... RealServer (c) 1995-1998 RealNetworks, Inc. All rights reserved. Version: 6.0.3.353 Platform: freebsd3 Here's a tcpdump from trying to connect: 03:10:46.610541 elbas.partitur.se.4251 > puka.partitur.se.7070: S 3043916040:3043916040(0) win 16384 (DF) 03:10:46.610692 puka.partitur.se.7070 > elbas.partitur.se.4251: S 1357161008:1357161008(0) ack 3043916041 win 17520 (DF) 03:10:46.610729 elbas.partitur.se.4251 > puka.partitur.se.7070: . ack 1 win 17520 (DF) 03:10:46.611024 elbas.partitur.se.4251 > puka.partitur.se.7070: P 1:399(398) ack 1 win 17520 (DF) 03:10:46.715954 puka.partitur.se.7070 > elbas.partitur.se.4251: . ack 399 win 17122 (DF) 03:10:46.715992 elbas.partitur.se.4251 > puka.partitur.se.7070: P 399:400(1) ack 1 win 17520 (DF) 03:10:46.915932 puka.partitur.se.7070 > elbas.partitur.se.4251: . ack 400 win 17121 (DF) And when I click stop: 03:10:50.829169 elbas.partitur.se.4251 > puka.partitur.se.7070: F 400:400(0) ack 1 win 17520 (DF) 03:10:50.829279 puka.partitur.se.7070 > elbas.partitur.se.4251: . ack 401 win 17121 (DF) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Aug 11 6:48:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from Samizdat.uucom.com (samizdat.uucom.com [198.202.217.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 442FE14D33 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 06:48:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cshenton@uucom.com) Received: (from cshenton@localhost) by Samizdat.uucom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA15710; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 09:48:39 -0400 (EDT) To: Barrett Richardson Cc: Steve Hovey , Mitch Vincent , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Loadbalance webservers References: User-Agent: SEMI/1.13.3 (Komaiko) FLIM/1.12.5 (Hirahata) Emacs/20.3 (i386-pc-solaris2.7) MULE/4.0 (HANANOEN) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.13.3 - "Komaiko") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Chris Shenton Date: 11 Aug 1999 09:48:39 -0400 In-Reply-To: Barrett Richardson's message of "Tue, 3 Aug 1999 09:57:31 -0400 (EDT)" Message-ID: Lines: 30 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.45/Emacs 20.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Barrett wrote: You can just have multiple address records www IN A x.x.x.3 IN A x.x.x.4 . . . IN A x.x.x.n Found some solid info on ISC's BIND documentation about trying to do load balancing with DNS. The "SRV" record is designed for this but I haven't found software that uses it (tho BIND8 implements it). So the multiple records are a bit of a hack and will hose you if one of the servers dies. There's a pointer to "lbnamed" from Stanford which looks worth trying. It puts a little load-monitor daemon on each server which the balancing named queries; presumably it hands out records for the least-loaded server and won't hand out records for servers that don't respond. It would be way cool to modify the server-based daemon to have it determine the network distance/cost to the *client* then feed that to the lbnamed so it could return a record corresponding to the server fastest/closest to the actual client. This would implement WAN load balancing much like F5 Lab's $27K (each) 3DNS. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Aug 11 8: 3:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.aye.net (phoenix.aye.net [206.185.8.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 83E0315527 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 08:03:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from barrett@phoenix.aye.net) Received: (qmail 4623 invoked by uid 1000); 11 Aug 1999 14:56:53 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 11 Aug 1999 14:56:53 -0000 Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 10:56:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Barrett Richardson To: Chris Shenton Cc: Steve Hovey , Mitch Vincent , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Loadbalance webservers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 11 Aug 1999, Chris Shenton wrote: > Barrett wrote: > >> You can just have multiple address records >> >> www IN A x.x.x.3 >> IN A x.x.x.4 >> . >> . >> . >> IN A x.x.x.n > > > Found some solid info on ISC's BIND documentation about trying to do > load balancing with DNS. The "SRV" record is designed for this but I > haven't found software that uses it (tho BIND8 implements it). So the > multiple records are a bit of a hack and will hose you if one of the > servers dies. > Use OSPF. Assign the IP address that it answers to a loopback interface. Have the ethernet (or other) interface on a different network than the IP address that answers requests. Say you have two machines - www.whatever.com that DNS assigns via round robin to these addresses. x.x.x.2 x.x.x.3 On machine A assign these addresses to lo1 x.x.x.2 and x.x.x.3 as an alias On machine B assign the same addresses (again on lo1) x.x.x.3 and x.x.x.2 as an alias On machine A cost the IP address like this (as stub hosts in OSPF) x.x.x.2 cost 1 x.x.x.3 cost 99 On machine B cost the IP addresses like this (again as stub hosts) x.x.x.2 cost 99 x.x.x.3 cost 1 If machine A goes down, the traffic headed for it goes to machine B. The same for machine B (except the other way around in reverse). If you can run OSPF on the routers on the exit/entry points of the segment you can accomplish the necessary costing of routes on the servers via the public version of gated. For machine A you could have (in the simplest form) in your gated.conf ospf yes { backbone { stubhosts { x.x.x.2 cost 1; x.x.x.3 cost 99; }; } }; And for machine B ospf yes { backbone { stubhosts { x.x.x.3 cost 1; x.x.x.2 cost 99; }; }; }; > There's a pointer to "lbnamed" from Stanford which looks worth > trying. It puts a little load-monitor daemon on each server which the > balancing named queries; presumably it hands out records for the > least-loaded server and won't hand out records for servers that don't > respond. In internet land, other name servers are cacheing info your nameserver doles out to them about your domain. When a client browser hits www.whatever.com the information returned by the nameserver _it_ is using may be days old. What *was* your most lightly loaded server days ago may be getting hammered (or down) when the remote browser does a lookup for www.whatever.com. The only way you can control that is decrease the TTL significantly on your DNS records, which introduces additional delay as your DNS constantly has to repropagate to be in sync with the real-time loads on your server. If the load is primarily random accesses from internet land the end result is that (realistically) you don't have any more finer grained load balancing that with the simple hack of round robin DNS. One reason why is that the benefits of having a fairly long TTL on A records in DNS (say a week) are tough to compete against for any scheme that would favor the TTL being very small. > > It would be way cool to modify the server-based daemon to have it > determine the network distance/cost to the *client* then feed that to > the lbnamed so it could return a record corresponding to the server > fastest/closest to the actual client. This would implement WAN load > balancing much like F5 Lab's $27K (each) 3DNS. I could see such a scheme working for client softwares that are directly using this nameserver (should be great on your own networks). The model becomes less feasible if the accesses are coming from random locations not directly using your nameserver (for example the internet). - Barrett > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Aug 11 8: 8:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.areti.net (meteora.areti.com [194.207.26.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06BFE15502 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 08:08:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ndear@areti.net) Received: from patras.areti.com (patras.areti.com [194.207.96.187]) by post.mail.areti.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Areti-2.0.0) with SMTP id QAA21355 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 16:13:15 +0100 Message-Id: <199908111513.QAA21355@post.mail.areti.net> From: "Nicholas J. Dear" Organization: Areti Internet Ltd. To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 16:10:01 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: mbuf clusters. Reply-To: ndear@areti.net X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, We had an increase in web requests today (about 500/sec) because of the UK solar eclipse here, and it caused one of our web servers to have some trouble. It was also coupled with the live broadcast being put up by FTP, and there was a lot of FTP activity. Where can I alter the item below, and what would be a sensible, but reasonably high figure? TIA. Aug 11 09:37:25 sithonia /kernel: Out of mbuf clusters - adjust NMBCLUSTERS or increase maxusers! N. -- Nicholas J. Dear Mail: ndear@areti.net Tel: +44 (0)208-402-4041 Areti Internet Ltd., http://www.areti.co.uk/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Aug 11 8:33:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from proteus.eclipse.net.uk (proteus.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.118]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64C5A1553D for ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 08:33:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stuart@eclipse.net.uk) Received: from eclipse.net.uk (elara.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.31]) by proteus.eclipse.net.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90FA59B20; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 16:31:24 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <37B197BF.97C095B0@eclipse.net.uk> Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 16:33:19 +0100 From: Stuart Henderson Organization: Eclipse Networking Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Shenton Cc: Barrett Richardson , Steve Hovey , Mitch Vincent , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Loadbalance webservers References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > So the multiple records are a bit of a hack Yep, > and will hose you if one of the servers dies. Not really - most web browsers, proxies and telnets cycle through until they find one that answers. Round robin DNS is in common enough usage that it is quite well supported by client software. (Also, bind will randomise the order and puts local networks first). > It would be way cool to modify the server-based daemon to have it > determine the network distance/cost to the *client* then feed that to > the lbnamed so it could return a record corresponding to the server > fastest/closest to the actual client. This would implement WAN load > balancing much like F5 Lab's $27K (each) 3DNS. I think Netscape used to do this in software (at least I always used to get the IP address of their UK mirror returned) but they seem not to be doing that now. Stuart To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Aug 11 8:42: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from almazs.pacex.net (almazs.pacex.net [204.1.219.156]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA36F156AA for ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 08:41:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from danielb@almazs.pacex.net) Received: from localhost (danielb@localhost) by almazs.pacex.net (8.9.2/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA04412; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 08:40:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 08:40:34 -0700 (PDT) From: daniel B To: Brian Somers Cc: alvermark@teligent.se, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Dial-out server? In-Reply-To: <199908091612.RAA51695@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 9 Aug 1999, Brian Somers wrote: > > > > Hi! > > > > I have a lot of users using a modem to dial out to various locations. Up > > til now I've had one machine with FreeBSD and a modem to do the job. Very > > simple setup, I use the userland ppp with the -auto option. Problem is > > that it can only be used to reach one destination at a time and I have to > > manually quit ppp and start it with another setting whenever the user(s) > > want it to reach another destination I'm now thinking of setting up a > > dedicated server for this, with maybe 3 or 4 modems. > > > > I was wondering if I can make ppp (or some other program) to pick a modem > > thats not in use automatically, as there will be more "destinations" than > > modems. > > How about > > set device /dev/cuaa0 /dev/cuaa1 /dev/cuaa2 /dev/cuaa3 > > Ppp will attempt to lock each in order and will use the first one it > manages to lock. Locking is standard across all (standard) programs > - see uucplock(3). > > > Or do you know about any good hardware to do this, that's not too > > expensive. > > > > I'm thinking about something like a box with an incoming ISDN PRI, a > > number of modems, and then a FreeBSD box with a multiport card. But I > > don't know if such hardward exists... Yea! we have such a setup like you've just mentioned but a RAS with a PRI interface and modems is not cheap! 8K+ is what you're looking at. You could go with modem racks that has biuilt-in terminal servers and that simply connect to your FBSD network and talk IP, users just telnet to the rack and get IP/PPP/SLIP sessions. Dan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Aug 11 8:55:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from bozeman.pwrh.com (bozeman.vlt.com [199.201.184.209]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E2A214D1D for ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 08:55:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Ptacek@pwrh.com) Received: by bozeman.pwrh.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 09:56:40 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Ptacek, Chris" To: daniel B , Brian Somers Cc: alvermark@teligent.se, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Dial-out server? Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 09:56:40 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org What kind of card are you using for this? I have been looking for a multimodem card that I can use with FreeBSD. Thanks, Chris > -----Original Message----- > From: daniel B [SMTP:danielb@pacex.net] > Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 1999 9:41 AM > To: Brian Somers > Cc: alvermark@teligent.se; freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: Dial-out server? > > > > On Mon, 9 Aug 1999, Brian Somers wrote: > > > > > > > Hi! > > > > > > I have a lot of users using a modem to dial out to various locations. > Up > > > til now I've had one machine with FreeBSD and a modem to do the job. > Very > > > simple setup, I use the userland ppp with the -auto option. Problem is > > > that it can only be used to reach one destination at a time and I have > to > > > manually quit ppp and start it with another setting whenever the > user(s) > > > want it to reach another destination I'm now thinking of setting up a > > > dedicated server for this, with maybe 3 or 4 modems. > > > > > > I was wondering if I can make ppp (or some other program) to pick a > modem > > > thats not in use automatically, as there will be more "destinations" > than > > > modems. > > > > How about > > > > set device /dev/cuaa0 /dev/cuaa1 /dev/cuaa2 /dev/cuaa3 > > > > Ppp will attempt to lock each in order and will use the first one it > > manages to lock. Locking is standard across all (standard) programs > > - see uucplock(3). > > > > > Or do you know about any good hardware to do this, that's not too > > > expensive. > > > > > > I'm thinking about something like a box with an incoming ISDN PRI, a > > > number of modems, and then a FreeBSD box with a multiport card. But I > > > don't know if such hardward exists... > Yea! we have such a setup like you've just mentioned but a RAS with a > PRI interface and modems is not cheap! 8K+ is what you're looking at. > You could go with modem racks that has biuilt-in terminal servers and that > simply connect to your FBSD network and talk IP, users just telnet to the > rack and get IP/PPP/SLIP sessions. > > > Dan > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Aug 11 9: 7:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from www.SLipmat.net (slipmat.net [216.4.88.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F41114E97 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 09:06:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian.scott@SLipmat.net) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by www.SLipmat.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA28343; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 11:04:46 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from brian.scott@SLipmat.net) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 11:04:46 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199908111604.LAA28343@www.SLipmat.net> X-Authentication-Warning: www.SLipmat.net: nobody set sender to brian.scott@SLipmat.net using -f From: Brian Scott To: Palle Girgensohn Reply-To: Brian Scott Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG References: <37B0E4F8.4C7D7235@partitur.se> In-Reply-To: <37B0E4F8.4C7D7235@partitur.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP3 Imap webMail Program 2.0.10 Subject: Re: fresh fbsd-stable and real audio server hangs Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Palle, Make sure that you're specifying IP Binding in the rmserver/pnserver config rmserver like... pmserver like... IPBindingList [{216.4.88.80}] You never had to do this before, but it seems that 3.1 and up wants it. Brian - Senior Network Administrator Worldnet Communications Inc. p.s. oh yes, all real audio servers run better if they're playing Hard Te/: > Hi! > > I'm experiencing something strange: I just updated one of our servers > this week-end, and now the real audio server won't run. I have rmserver > on a bunch of similar machines, and it works fine for them with > practically the same setup. > > I updated the system from FreeBSD-3-STABLE as of March 31st to > FreeBSD-3-STABLE as of Aug 8. I also added a second processor. It works > very satisfactory, apart from this. > > There's no way to access any of the rmserver's services; there's no > answer on the http admin port either.... When trying to connect with > rvplayer, the connection hangs on "Contacting host" until I kill the > server. I then get an error message 29, server disconnected. > > The log files are never touched. > > I'm of course sending this to the RealAudio support folks, but I get the > feeling they might not be able to help, since this seems pretty OS > related (I updated the OS, other machines run fine with the same > realaudio installation but with older (July 7th) FreeBSD systems). > > I'm not to familiar at debugging this sort of thing, but I can see a > few differencies: > > on the machines where rmserver works fine, lsof -i reveals: > # lsof -i | grep rmserver > rmserver 38163 root 6u inet 0xca8caa80 0t0 TCP > pingpong-ing.hj.se:7070 (LISTEN) > rmserver 38163 root 7u inet 0xca8ca720 0t0 TCP > pingpong-ing.hj.se:rtsp (LISTEN) > rmserver 38163 root 8u inet 0xca8c6720 0t0 TCP > pingpong-ing.hj.se:8080 (LISTEN) > rmserver 38163 root 9u inet 0xca8c72a0 0t0 TCP > pingpong-ing.hj.se:2737 (LISTEN) > rmserver 38163 root 10u inet 0xca8cd3c0 0t0 TCP > localhost:7070 (LISTEN) > rmserver 38163 root 11u inet 0xca8c82a0 0t0 TCP > localhost:rtsp (LISTEN) > rmserver 38163 root 12u inet 0xca8c7720 0t0 TCP > localhost:8080 (LISTEN) > rmserver 38163 root 13u inet 0xca8ceba0 0t0 TCP > localhost:2737 (LISTEN) > rmserver 38165 root 5u inet 0xca8cc3c0 0t0 TCP *:4040 > (LISTEN) > rmserver 38167 root 5u inet 0xca8c8720 0t0 TCP *:mmcc > (LISTEN) > rmserver 38170 root 5u inet 0xca8cb960 0t0 TCP *:9090 > (LISTEN) > rmserver 38172 root 7u inet 0xca853d80 0t0 UDP *:1131 > rmserver 38172 root 8u inet 0xca853de0 0t0 UDP *:6770 > > > while on the bad machine, the last "*:port#" rows are missing: > > > rmserver 62759 root 6u inet 0xc9f01de0 0t0 TCP > puka.partitur.se:7070 (LISTEN) > rmserver 62759 root 7u inet 0xc9f12720 0t0 TCP > puka.partitur.se:rtsp (LISTEN) > rmserver 62759 root 8u inet 0xc9f0e3c0 0t0 TCP > puka.partitur.se:8080 (LISTEN) > rmserver 62759 root 9u inet 0xc9f124e0 0t0 TCP > puka.partitur.se:3098 (LISTEN) > rmserver 62759 root 10u inet 0xc9f11180 0t0 TCP > localhost.partitur.se:7070 (LISTEN) > rmserver 62759 root 11u inet 0xc9f09180 0t0 TCP > localhost.partitur.se:rtsp (LISTEN) > rmserver 62759 root 12u inet 0xc9f07960 0t0 TCP > localhost.partitur.se:8080 (LISTEN) > rmserver 62759 root 13u inet 0xc9f10de0 0t0 TCP > localhost.partitur.se:3098 (LISTEN) > > ------------------- > > When running the server from the command line with no redirect to > dev/null, I can see it stopping before reading all of the Plugins: > > # /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Bin/rmserver > /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/rmserver.cfg > Creating Server Space... > Starting RealServer 6.0 Core... > Loading RealServer License Files... > I: Loading Plugins... > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/adminfs.so.6.0 RealNetworks Admin > File System > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/allow.so.6.0 RealNetworks Basic > Allowance Plugin > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/archplin.so.6.0 RealNetworks Live > Archiver Plugin > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/audplin.so.6.0 RealNetworks AU > Renderer Plugin > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/audplin.so.6.0 RealNetworks PCM > Renderer Plugin > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/audplin.so.6.0 RealNetworks AU > File Format Plugin > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/audplin.so.6.0 RealNetworks WAVE > File Format Plugin > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/audplin.so.6.0 RealNetworks AIFF > File Format Plugin > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/audplin.so.6.0 RealNetworks DVI4 > Renderer Plugin > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/authmgr.so.6.0 RealNetworks > Authentication Manager > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/bascauth.so.6.0 RealNetworks > Basic Authenticator > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/dbmgr.so.6.0 RealNetworks > Database Manager > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/dbwrap.so.6.0 RealNetworks 5.0 > Database Wrapper > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/encoplin.so.6.0 RealNetworks > Encoder Broadcast Plugin > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/farmplin.so.6.0 RealNetworks Farm > Split Broadcast Plugin > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/liv3plin.so.6.0 RealNetworks Live > Broadcast Plugin > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/logplin.so.6.0 RealNetworks > Logging Plugin > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/plusplin.so.6.0 RealNetworks > PlusURL File Format Plugin > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/pplyplin.so.6.0 RealNetworks > Scalable Multicast Plugin > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/ppvallow.so.6.0 RealNetworks Pay > Per View Allowance Plug > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/ppvbasic.so.6.0 RealNetworks > FlatFile Database Plugin > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/ppvmsql.so.6.0 RealNetworks Mini > SQL PPV Database Plugi > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/pxcbmp.so.6.0 RealNetworks > RealPix BMP Codec Plugin > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/pxcgif.so.6.0 RealNetworks > RealPix GIF Codec Plugin > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/pxcjpeg.so.6.0 RealNetworks > RealPix JPEG Codec Plugin > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/pxexfx.so.6.0 RealNetworks > RealPix External Effect Sam > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/pxff.so.6.0 RealNetworks RealPix > Format Plugin > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/pxgf.so.6.0 RealNetworks GIF File > Format Plugin > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/pxjf.so.6.0 RealNetworks JPEG > File Format Plugin > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/ramplin.so.6.0 RealNetworks > Ramgen File System > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/rmffplin.so.6.0 RealNetworks > RealMedia File Format Plugi > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/rn5auth.so.6.0 RealNetworks RN5 > Authenticator > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/rtffplin.so.6.0 RealNetworks > RealText File Format Plugin > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/sdpplin.so.6.0 RealNetworks SDP > Stream Description Plug > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/smlffpln.so.6.0 RealNetworks SMIL > File Format Plugin > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/smonplin.so.6.0 RealNetworks > System Monitor > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/spltplin.so.6.0 RealNetworks > Splitter Broadcast Plugin > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/smplfsys.so.6.0 RealNetworks > Local File System > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/swff.so.6.0 Shockwave Flash > Format Plugin > > > But the a working copy goes somewhat further: > > # /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Bin/rmserver /opt/etc/rmserver.cfg > Creating Server Space... > Starting RealServer 6.0 Core... > Loading RealServer License Files... > I: Loading Plugins... > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/adminfs.so.6.0 RealNetworks Admin > File System > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/allow.so.6.0 RealNetworks Basic > Allowance Plugin > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/archplin.so.6.0 RealNetworks Live > Archiver Plugin > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/audplin.so.6.0 RealNetworks AU > Renderer Plugin > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/audplin.so.6.0 RealNetworks PCM > Renderer Plugin > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/audplin.so.6.0 RealNetworks AU > File Format Plugin > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/audplin.so.6.0 RealNetworks WAVE > File Format Plugin > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/audplin.so.6.0 RealNetworks AIFF > File Format Plugin > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/audplin.so.6.0 RealNetworks DVI4 > Renderer Plugin > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/authmgr.so.6.0 RealNetworks > Authentication Manager > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/bascauth.so.6.0 RealNetworks > Basic Authenticator > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/dbmgr.so.6.0 RealNetworks > Database Manager > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/dbwrap.so.6.0 RealNetworks 5.0 > Database Wrapper > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/encoplin.so.6.0 RealNetworks > Encoder Broadcast Plugin > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/farmplin.so.6.0 RealNetworks Farm > Split Broadcast Plugin > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/liv3plin.so.6.0 RealNetworks Live > Broadcast Plugin > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/logplin.so.6.0 RealNetworks > Logging Plugin > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/plusplin.so.6.0 RealNetworks > PlusURL File Format Plugin > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/pplyplin.so.6.0 RealNetworks > Scalable Multicast Plugin > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/ppvallow.so.6.0 RealNetworks Pay > Per View Allowance Plug > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/ppvbasic.so.6.0 RealNetworks > FlatFile Database Plugin > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/ppvmsql.so.6.0 RealNetworks Mini > SQL PPV Database Plugi > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/pxcbmp.so.6.0 RealNetworks > RealPix BMP Codec Plugin > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/pxcgif.so.6.0 RealNetworks > RealPix GIF Codec Plugin > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/pxcjpeg.so.6.0 RealNetworks > RealPix JPEG Codec Plugin > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/pxexfx.so.6.0 RealNetworks > RealPix External Effect Sam > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/pxff.so.6.0 RealNetworks RealPix > Format Plugin > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/pxgf.so.6.0 RealNetworks GIF File > Format Plugin > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/pxjf.so.6.0 RealNetworks JPEG > File Format Plugin > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/ramplin.so.6.0 RealNetworks > Ramgen File System > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/rmffplin.so.6.0 RealNetworks > RealMedia File Format Plugi > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/rn5auth.so.6.0 RealNetworks RN5 > Authenticator > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/rtffplin.so.6.0 RealNetworks > RealText File Format Plugin > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/sdpplin.so.6.0 RealNetworks SDP > Stream Description Plug > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/smlffpln.so.6.0 RealNetworks SMIL > File Format Plugin > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/smonplin.so.6.0 RealNetworks > System Monitor > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/spltplin.so.6.0 RealNetworks > Splitter Broadcast Plugin > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/smplfsys.so.6.0 RealNetworks > Local File System > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/swff.so.6.0 Shockwave Flash > Format Plugin > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/vidplin.so.6.0 RealNetworks RGB > Renderer Plugin > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/vidplin.so.6.0 RealNetworks AVI > File Format Plugin > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/vidplin.so.6.0 RealNetworks > QuickTime File Format Plugi > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/vidplin.so.6.0 RealNetworks > Active Stream Format Versio > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/vivff.so.6.0 VivoActive File > Format Plugin > > > The last five lines are missing from the bad server startup. > > $ rmserver -v > Creating Server Space... > Starting RealServer 6.0 Core... > RealServer (c) 1995-1998 RealNetworks, Inc. All rights reserved. > Version: 6.0.3.353 > Platform: freebsd3 > > > Here's a tcpdump from trying to connect: > > 03:10:46.610541 elbas.partitur.se.4251 > puka.partitur.se.7070: S > 3043916040:3043916040(0) win 16384 (DF) > 03:10:46.610692 puka.partitur.se.7070 > elbas.partitur.se.4251: S > 1357161008:1357161008(0) ack 3043916041 win 17520 (DF) > 03:10:46.610729 elbas.partitur.se.4251 > puka.partitur.se.7070: . ack 1 > win 17520 (DF) > 03:10:46.611024 elbas.partitur.se.4251 > puka.partitur.se.7070: P > 1:399(398) ack 1 win 17520 (DF) > 03:10:46.715954 puka.partitur.se.7070 > elbas.partitur.se.4251: . ack > 399 win 17122 (DF) > 03:10:46.715992 elbas.partitur.se.4251 > puka.partitur.se.7070: P > 399:400(1) ack 1 win 17520 (DF) > 03:10:46.915932 puka.partitur.se.7070 > elbas.partitur.se.4251: . ack > 400 win 17121 (DF) > > > And when I click stop: > 03:10:50.829169 elbas.partitur.se.4251 > puka.partitur.se.7070: F > 400:400(0) ack 1 win 17520 (DF) > 03:10:50.829279 puka.partitur.se.7070 > elbas.partitur.se.4251: . ack > 401 win 17121 (DF) > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Aug 11 9: 9: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from implode.root.com (root.com [209.102.106.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 793C91555D for ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 09:08:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@implode.root.com) Received: from implode.root.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by implode.root.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA25523; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 09:04:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199908111604.JAA25523@implode.root.com> To: ndear@areti.net Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mbuf clusters. In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 11 Aug 1999 16:10:01 BST." <199908111513.QAA21355@post.mail.areti.net> From: David Greenman Reply-To: dg@root.com Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 09:04:32 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >We had an increase in web requests today (about 500/sec) because of the UK >solar eclipse here, and it caused one of our web servers to have some trouble. It >was also coupled with the live broadcast being put up by FTP, and there was a lot >of FTP activity. > >Where can I alter the item below, and what would be a sensible, but reasonably >high figure? > >TIA. > >Aug 11 09:37:25 sithonia /kernel: Out of mbuf clusters - adjust >NMBCLUSTERS or increase maxusers! That's controlled by the NMBCLUSTERS kernel option. Try something like: options "NMBCLUSTERS=10000" -DG David Greenman Co-founder/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project - http://www.freebsd.org Creator of high-performance Internet servers - http://www.terasolutions.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Aug 11 9:50:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from storm.FreeBSD.org.uk (storm.freebsd.org.uk [194.242.128.198]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C684156B6 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 09:50:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by storm.FreeBSD.org.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA16747; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 17:50:08 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (brian@localhost.lan.Awfulhak.org [127.0.0.1]) by keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA02502; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 17:52:06 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <199908111652.RAA02502@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Ptacek, Chris" Cc: daniel B , Brian Somers , alvermark@teligent.se, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Dial-out server? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 11 Aug 1999 09:56:40 MDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 17:52:06 +0100 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Digiboard Xem's should do the job (using the dgm driver). > What kind of card are you using for this? > I have been looking for a multimodem card that I can use with FreeBSD. > > Thanks, > Chris > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: daniel B [SMTP:danielb@pacex.net] > > Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 1999 9:41 AM > > To: Brian Somers > > Cc: alvermark@teligent.se; freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > > Subject: Re: Dial-out server? > > > > > > > > On Mon, 9 Aug 1999, Brian Somers wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi! > > > > > > > > I have a lot of users using a modem to dial out to various locations. > > Up > > > > til now I've had one machine with FreeBSD and a modem to do the job. > > Very > > > > simple setup, I use the userland ppp with the -auto option. Problem is > > > > that it can only be used to reach one destination at a time and I have > > to > > > > manually quit ppp and start it with another setting whenever the > > user(s) > > > > want it to reach another destination I'm now thinking of setting up a > > > > dedicated server for this, with maybe 3 or 4 modems. > > > > > > > > I was wondering if I can make ppp (or some other program) to pick a > > modem > > > > thats not in use automatically, as there will be more "destinations" > > than > > > > modems. > > > > > > How about > > > > > > set device /dev/cuaa0 /dev/cuaa1 /dev/cuaa2 /dev/cuaa3 > > > > > > Ppp will attempt to lock each in order and will use the first one it > > > manages to lock. Locking is standard across all (standard) programs > > > - see uucplock(3). > > > > > > > Or do you know about any good hardware to do this, that's not too > > > > expensive. > > > > > > > > I'm thinking about something like a box with an incoming ISDN PRI, a > > > > number of modems, and then a FreeBSD box with a multiport card. But I > > > > don't know if such hardward exists... > > Yea! we have such a setup like you've just mentioned but a RAS with a > > PRI interface and modems is not cheap! 8K+ is what you're looking at. > > You could go with modem racks that has biuilt-in terminal servers and that > > simply connect to your FBSD network and talk IP, users just telnet to the > > rack and get IP/PPP/SLIP sessions. > > > > > > Dan -- Brian Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Aug 11 10:25:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from dt011n65.san.rr.com (dt011n65.san.rr.com [204.210.13.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 889BE14D00 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 10:25:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Received: from gorean.org (master [10.0.0.2]) by dt011n65.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA67578; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 10:25:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Message-ID: <37B1B1EE.4DCF214F@gorean.org> Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 10:25:02 -0700 From: Doug Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT-0730 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ndear@areti.net Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mbuf clusters. References: <199908111513.QAA21355@post.mail.areti.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Nicholas J. Dear" wrote: > > Hi, > > We had an increase in web requests today (about 500/sec) because of the UK > solar eclipse here, and it caused one of our web servers to have some trouble. It > was also coupled with the live broadcast being put up by FTP, and there was a lot > of FTP activity. > > Where can I alter the item below, and what would be a sensible, but reasonably > high figure? > > TIA. > > Aug 11 09:37:25 sithonia /kernel: Out of mbuf clusters - adjust > NMBCLUSTERS or increase maxusers! It's impossible to answer this question intelligently without knowing your version of the OS and your current kernel maxusers setting, not to mention memory, processor, etc. However in general for a short term crisis situation like this you can go to 512 maxusers and 15000 NMBCLUSTERS on a 2.2.8 system, assuming that you have enough ram. I'd say 256M ought to do it. If you have a 3.2 system you can go higher on these numbers, but chances are you won't need to. netstat [-s | -sr | -m] will give you a better idea of hot to tune it when the crisis is over. Good luck, Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Aug 11 10:59:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from tgn2.tgn.net (tgn2.tgn.net [205.241.85.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73D1F15697 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 10:59:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from butlermd@tgn.net) Received: from dial105.tgn.net (dial105.tgn.net [205.241.85.35]) by tgn2.tgn.net (8.9.3/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA02622 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 13:02:53 -0500 (CDT) From: butlermd@tgn.net (Michael Butler) To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: www.tzo.com hijacks DNS?? Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 12:58:51 -0500 Organization: Texas GulfNet Reply-To: butlermd@tgn.net Message-ID: <37b5b9bc.43485477@mail.tgn.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This may be old stuff but is anyone getting dns mods fromtzo.com hijacking ip addresses to their domains? What do we do about it? see www.tzo.com They're about to be cut off at the FW TIA ___________________________________ ____________________________________________________________ Michael Butler, Texas GulfNet, | www.tgn.net =20 908 South Brooks, PO Box 2089 |=20 Brazoria, TX 77422-2089 | Voice 409-798-NETT Part of the Pointecom International| FAX 409-798-6398 =20 Network and the Global Internet | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Aug 11 11:56:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.aye.net (phoenix.aye.net [206.185.8.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9782215585 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 11:56:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from barrett@phoenix.aye.net) Received: (qmail 5946 invoked by uid 1000); 11 Aug 1999 18:49:25 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 11 Aug 1999 18:49:25 -0000 Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 14:49:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Barrett Richardson To: Stuart Henderson Cc: Chris Shenton , Steve Hovey , Mitch Vincent , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Loadbalance webservers In-Reply-To: <37B197BF.97C095B0@eclipse.net.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 11 Aug 1999, Stuart Henderson wrote: > > So the multiple records are a bit of a hack > > Yep, > > > and will hose you if one of the servers dies. > > Not really - most web browsers, proxies and telnets cycle through until > they find one that answers. Round robin DNS is in common enough usage that > it is quite well supported by client software. (Also, bind will randomise > the order and puts local networks first). > > > It would be way cool to modify the server-based daemon to have it > > determine the network distance/cost to the *client* then feed that to > > the lbnamed so it could return a record corresponding to the server > > fastest/closest to the actual client. This would implement WAN load > > balancing much like F5 Lab's $27K (each) 3DNS. > > I think Netscape used to do this in software (at least I always used > to get the IP address of their UK mirror returned) but they seem not to > be doing that now. > > Stuart > Could be an artifact of normal BIND behaviour. When a nameserver queries for something in somedomain.com it is given a list of randomly ordered NS records to try for a zone. The RTT to each of the nameservers is measured and queries are sent to the server that replies the quickest. The tracking of RTTs is done continually to account for any significant changes in the routes between the server that is asking and the server that is answering. - Barrett To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Aug 11 12:50:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from irc.ircnet.dk (irc.ircnet.dk [195.215.15.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C02B614BFA for ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 12:50:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robert@ircnet.dk) Received: from localhost (robert@localhost) by irc.ircnet.dk (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA07408; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 21:50:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from robert@ircnet.dk) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 21:50:20 +0200 (CEST) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Robert_Martin-Leg=E8ne?= To: Michael Butler Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: www.tzo.com hijacks DNS?? In-Reply-To: <37b5b9bc.43485477@mail.tgn.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 11 Aug 1999, Michael Butler wrote: > This may be old stuff but is anyone getting dns mods fromtzo.com > hijacking ip addresses to their domains? >=20 > What do we do about it? >=20 > see www.tzo.com >=20 > They're about to be cut off at the FW If you run BIND you probably don't need to do a lot, since it by default rejects them. DK Hostmaster got a lot of these and I wrote a layer 5 (I believe it's layer 5) divert-thingie that drops any UDP DNS packet crossing your FreeBSD with the opcode of UPDATE (=3D5). If anyones interested in buying a copy, please contact me (expect 2 week response as I'm going travelling in a few days) -- Robert Martin-Leg=E8ne To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Aug 11 13:44:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from bastuba.partitur.se (bastuba.partitur.se [193.219.246.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91D9B14BFE for ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 13:44:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from girgen@partitur.se) Received: from elbas.partitur.se (elbas.partitur.se [193.219.246.222]) by bastuba.partitur.se (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA01175; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 22:43:44 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from girgen@partitur.se) Received: from partitur.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by elbas.partitur.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA22499; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 22:43:43 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from girgen@partitur.se) Message-ID: <37B1E07F.D64F16B@partitur.se> Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 20:43:43 +0000 From: Palle Girgensohn Organization: Partitur X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: sv, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brian Scott Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: fresh fbsd-stable and real audio server hangs References: <37B0E4F8.4C7D7235@partitur.se> <199908111604.LAA28343@www.SLipmat.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi! Thanks for the tip. Unfortunately, it didn't help. :( Brian Scott wrote: > > Palle, > Make sure that you're specifying IP Binding in the > rmserver/pnserver config > > rmserver like... > > > > > pmserver like... > IPBindingList [{216.4.88.80}] > > You never had to do this before, but it seems that 3.1 > and up wants it. > > Brian - > > Senior Network Administrator > Worldnet Communications Inc. > > p.s. oh yes, all real audio servers run better if > they're playing Hard Te/ > Quoting Palle Girgensohn : > > > Hi! > > > > I'm experiencing something strange: I just updated one > of our servers > > this week-end, and now the real audio server won't > run. I have rmserver > > on a bunch of similar machines, and it works fine for > them with > > practically the same setup. > > > > I updated the system from FreeBSD-3-STABLE as of March > 31st to > > FreeBSD-3-STABLE as of Aug 8. I also added a second > processor. It works > > very satisfactory, apart from this. > > > > There's no way to access any of the rmserver's > services; there's no > > answer on the http admin port either.... When trying > to connect with > > rvplayer, the connection hangs on "Contacting host" > until I kill the > > server. I then get an error message 29, server > disconnected. > > > > The log files are never touched. > > > > I'm of course sending this to the RealAudio support > folks, but I get the > > feeling they might not be able to help, since this > seems pretty OS > > related (I updated the OS, other machines run fine > with the same > > realaudio installation but with older (July 7th) > FreeBSD systems). > > > > I'm not to familiar at debugging this sort of thing, > but I can see a > > few differencies: > > > > on the machines where rmserver works fine, lsof -i > reveals: > > # lsof -i | grep rmserver > > rmserver 38163 root 6u inet 0xca8caa80 0t0 > TCP > > pingpong-ing.hj.se:7070 (LISTEN) > > rmserver 38163 root 7u inet 0xca8ca720 0t0 > TCP > > pingpong-ing.hj.se:rtsp (LISTEN) > > rmserver 38163 root 8u inet 0xca8c6720 0t0 > TCP > > pingpong-ing.hj.se:8080 (LISTEN) > > rmserver 38163 root 9u inet 0xca8c72a0 0t0 > TCP > > pingpong-ing.hj.se:2737 (LISTEN) > > rmserver 38163 root 10u inet 0xca8cd3c0 0t0 > TCP > > localhost:7070 (LISTEN) > > rmserver 38163 root 11u inet 0xca8c82a0 0t0 > TCP > > localhost:rtsp (LISTEN) > > rmserver 38163 root 12u inet 0xca8c7720 0t0 > TCP > > localhost:8080 (LISTEN) > > rmserver 38163 root 13u inet 0xca8ceba0 0t0 > TCP > > localhost:2737 (LISTEN) > > rmserver 38165 root 5u inet 0xca8cc3c0 0t0 > TCP *:4040 > > (LISTEN) > > rmserver 38167 root 5u inet 0xca8c8720 0t0 > TCP *:mmcc > > (LISTEN) > > rmserver 38170 root 5u inet 0xca8cb960 0t0 > TCP *:9090 > > (LISTEN) > > rmserver 38172 root 7u inet 0xca853d80 0t0 > UDP *:1131 > > rmserver 38172 root 8u inet 0xca853de0 0t0 > UDP *:6770 > > > > > > while on the bad machine, the last "*:port#" rows are > missing: > > > > > > rmserver 62759 root 6u inet 0xc9f01de0 0t0 > TCP > > puka.partitur.se:7070 (LISTEN) > > rmserver 62759 root 7u inet 0xc9f12720 0t0 > TCP > > puka.partitur.se:rtsp (LISTEN) > > rmserver 62759 root 8u inet 0xc9f0e3c0 0t0 > TCP > > puka.partitur.se:8080 (LISTEN) > > rmserver 62759 root 9u inet 0xc9f124e0 0t0 > TCP > > puka.partitur.se:3098 (LISTEN) > > rmserver 62759 root 10u inet 0xc9f11180 0t0 > TCP > > localhost.partitur.se:7070 (LISTEN) > > rmserver 62759 root 11u inet 0xc9f09180 0t0 > TCP > > localhost.partitur.se:rtsp (LISTEN) > > rmserver 62759 root 12u inet 0xc9f07960 0t0 > TCP > > localhost.partitur.se:8080 (LISTEN) > > rmserver 62759 root 13u inet 0xc9f10de0 0t0 > TCP > > localhost.partitur.se:3098 (LISTEN) > > > > ------------------- > > > > When running the server from the command line with no > redirect to > > dev/null, I can see it stopping before reading all of > the Plugins: > > > > # /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Bin/rmserver > > /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/rmserver.cfg > > Creating Server Space... > > Starting RealServer 6.0 Core... > > Loading RealServer License Files... > > I: Loading Plugins... > > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/adminfs.so.6.0 > RealNetworks Admin > > File System > > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/allow.so.6.0 > RealNetworks Basic > > Allowance Plugin > > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/archplin.so.6.0 > RealNetworks Live > > Archiver Plugin > > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/audplin.so.6.0 > RealNetworks AU > > Renderer Plugin > > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/audplin.so.6.0 > RealNetworks PCM > > Renderer Plugin > > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/audplin.so.6.0 > RealNetworks AU > > File Format Plugin > > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/audplin.so.6.0 > RealNetworks WAVE > > File Format Plugin > > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/audplin.so.6.0 > RealNetworks AIFF > > File Format Plugin > > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/audplin.so.6.0 > RealNetworks DVI4 > > Renderer Plugin > > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/authmgr.so.6.0 > RealNetworks > > Authentication Manager > > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/bascauth.so.6.0 > RealNetworks > > Basic Authenticator > > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/dbmgr.so.6.0 > RealNetworks > > Database Manager > > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/dbwrap.so.6.0 > RealNetworks 5.0 > > Database Wrapper > > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/encoplin.so.6.0 > RealNetworks > > Encoder Broadcast Plugin > > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/farmplin.so.6.0 > RealNetworks Farm > > Split Broadcast Plugin > > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/liv3plin.so.6.0 > RealNetworks Live > > Broadcast Plugin > > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/logplin.so.6.0 > RealNetworks > > Logging Plugin > > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/plusplin.so.6.0 > RealNetworks > > PlusURL File Format Plugin > > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/pplyplin.so.6.0 > RealNetworks > > Scalable Multicast Plugin > > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/ppvallow.so.6.0 > RealNetworks Pay > > Per View Allowance Plug > > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/ppvbasic.so.6.0 > RealNetworks > > FlatFile Database Plugin > > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/ppvmsql.so.6.0 > RealNetworks Mini > > SQL PPV Database Plugi > > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/pxcbmp.so.6.0 > RealNetworks > > RealPix BMP Codec Plugin > > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/pxcgif.so.6.0 > RealNetworks > > RealPix GIF Codec Plugin > > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/pxcjpeg.so.6.0 > RealNetworks > > RealPix JPEG Codec Plugin > > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/pxexfx.so.6.0 > RealNetworks > > RealPix External Effect Sam > > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/pxff.so.6.0 > RealNetworks RealPix > > Format Plugin > > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/pxgf.so.6.0 > RealNetworks GIF File > > Format Plugin > > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/pxjf.so.6.0 > RealNetworks JPEG > > File Format Plugin > > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/ramplin.so.6.0 > RealNetworks > > Ramgen File System > > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/rmffplin.so.6.0 > RealNetworks > > RealMedia File Format Plugi > > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/rn5auth.so.6.0 > RealNetworks RN5 > > Authenticator > > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/rtffplin.so.6.0 > RealNetworks > > RealText File Format Plugin > > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/sdpplin.so.6.0 > RealNetworks SDP > > Stream Description Plug > > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/smlffpln.so.6.0 > RealNetworks SMIL > > File Format Plugin > > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/smonplin.so.6.0 > RealNetworks > > System Monitor > > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/spltplin.so.6.0 > RealNetworks > > Splitter Broadcast Plugin > > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/smplfsys.so.6.0 > RealNetworks > > Local File System > > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/swff.so.6.0 > Shockwave Flash > > Format Plugin > > > > > > But the a working copy goes somewhat further: > > > > # /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Bin/rmserver > /opt/etc/rmserver.cfg > > Creating Server Space... > > Starting RealServer 6.0 Core... > > Loading RealServer License Files... > > I: Loading Plugins... > > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/adminfs.so.6.0 > RealNetworks Admin > > File System > > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/allow.so.6.0 > RealNetworks Basic > > Allowance Plugin > > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/archplin.so.6.0 > RealNetworks Live > > Archiver Plugin > > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/audplin.so.6.0 > RealNetworks AU > > Renderer Plugin > > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/audplin.so.6.0 > RealNetworks PCM > > Renderer Plugin > > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/audplin.so.6.0 > RealNetworks AU > > File Format Plugin > > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/audplin.so.6.0 > RealNetworks WAVE > > File Format Plugin > > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/audplin.so.6.0 > RealNetworks AIFF > > File Format Plugin > > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/audplin.so.6.0 > RealNetworks DVI4 > > Renderer Plugin > > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/authmgr.so.6.0 > RealNetworks > > Authentication Manager > > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/bascauth.so.6.0 > RealNetworks > > Basic Authenticator > > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/dbmgr.so.6.0 > RealNetworks > > Database Manager > > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/dbwrap.so.6.0 > RealNetworks 5.0 > > Database Wrapper > > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/encoplin.so.6.0 > RealNetworks > > Encoder Broadcast Plugin > > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/farmplin.so.6.0 > RealNetworks Farm > > Split Broadcast Plugin > > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/liv3plin.so.6.0 > RealNetworks Live > > Broadcast Plugin > > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/logplin.so.6.0 > RealNetworks > > Logging Plugin > > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/plusplin.so.6.0 > RealNetworks > > PlusURL File Format Plugin > > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/pplyplin.so.6.0 > RealNetworks > > Scalable Multicast Plugin > > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/ppvallow.so.6.0 > RealNetworks Pay > > Per View Allowance Plug > > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/ppvbasic.so.6.0 > RealNetworks > > FlatFile Database Plugin > > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/ppvmsql.so.6.0 > RealNetworks Mini > > SQL PPV Database Plugi > > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/pxcbmp.so.6.0 > RealNetworks > > RealPix BMP Codec Plugin > > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/pxcgif.so.6.0 > RealNetworks > > RealPix GIF Codec Plugin > > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/pxcjpeg.so.6.0 > RealNetworks > > RealPix JPEG Codec Plugin > > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/pxexfx.so.6.0 > RealNetworks > > RealPix External Effect Sam > > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/pxff.so.6.0 > RealNetworks RealPix > > Format Plugin > > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/pxgf.so.6.0 > RealNetworks GIF File > > Format Plugin > > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/pxjf.so.6.0 > RealNetworks JPEG > > File Format Plugin > > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/ramplin.so.6.0 > RealNetworks > > Ramgen File System > > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/rmffplin.so.6.0 > RealNetworks > > RealMedia File Format Plugi > > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/rn5auth.so.6.0 > RealNetworks RN5 > > Authenticator > > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/rtffplin.so.6.0 > RealNetworks > > RealText File Format Plugin > > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/sdpplin.so.6.0 > RealNetworks SDP > > Stream Description Plug > > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/smlffpln.so.6.0 > RealNetworks SMIL > > File Format Plugin > > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/smonplin.so.6.0 > RealNetworks > > System Monitor > > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/spltplin.so.6.0 > RealNetworks > > Splitter Broadcast Plugin > > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/smplfsys.so.6.0 > RealNetworks > > Local File System > > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/swff.so.6.0 > Shockwave Flash > > Format Plugin > > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/vidplin.so.6.0 > RealNetworks RGB > > Renderer Plugin > > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/vidplin.so.6.0 > RealNetworks AVI > > File Format Plugin > > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/vidplin.so.6.0 > RealNetworks > > QuickTime File Format Plugi > > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/vidplin.so.6.0 > RealNetworks > > Active Stream Format Versio > > I: /usr/local/libexec/rmserver/Plugins/vivff.so.6.0 > VivoActive File > > Format Plugin > > > > > > The last five lines are missing from the bad server > startup. > > > > $ rmserver -v > > Creating Server Space... > > Starting RealServer 6.0 Core... > > RealServer (c) 1995-1998 RealNetworks, Inc. All rights > reserved. > > Version: 6.0.3.353 > > Platform: freebsd3 > > > > > > Here's a tcpdump from trying to connect: > > > > 03:10:46.610541 elbas.partitur.se.4251 > > puka.partitur.se.7070: S > > 3043916040:3043916040(0) win 16384 (DF) > > 03:10:46.610692 puka.partitur.se.7070 > > elbas.partitur.se.4251: S > > 1357161008:1357161008(0) ack 3043916041 win 17520 1460> (DF) > > 03:10:46.610729 elbas.partitur.se.4251 > > puka.partitur.se.7070: . ack 1 > > win 17520 (DF) > > 03:10:46.611024 elbas.partitur.se.4251 > > puka.partitur.se.7070: P > > 1:399(398) ack 1 win 17520 (DF) > > 03:10:46.715954 puka.partitur.se.7070 > > elbas.partitur.se.4251: . ack > > 399 win 17122 (DF) > > 03:10:46.715992 elbas.partitur.se.4251 > > puka.partitur.se.7070: P > > 399:400(1) ack 1 win 17520 (DF) > > 03:10:46.915932 puka.partitur.se.7070 > > elbas.partitur.se.4251: . ack > > 400 win 17121 (DF) > > > > > > And when I click stop: > > 03:10:50.829169 elbas.partitur.se.4251 > > puka.partitur.se.7070: F > > 400:400(0) ack 1 win 17520 (DF) > > 03:10:50.829279 puka.partitur.se.7070 > > elbas.partitur.se.4251: . ack > > 401 win 17121 (DF) > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the > message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Aug 11 13:45:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from Thanatos.Shenton.Org (cshenton.customer.execdsl.net [206.64.112.238]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4CBE15580 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 13:45:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@shenton.org) Received: (from chris@localhost) by Thanatos.Shenton.Org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id QAA93099; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 16:44:59 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from chris) To: Barrett Richardson Cc: Steve Hovey , Mitch Vincent , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Loadbalance webservers References: User-Agent: SEMI/1.13.3 (Komaiko) FLIM/1.12.5 (Hirahata) Emacs/20.3 (i386--freebsd) MULE/4.0 (HANANOEN) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.13.3 - "Komaiko") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Chris Shenton Date: 11 Aug 1999 16:44:59 -0400 In-Reply-To: Barrett Richardson's message of "Wed, 11 Aug 1999 10:56:53 -0400 (EDT)" Message-ID: <874si63v3o.fsf@Thanatos.Shenton.Org> Lines: 48 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.45/Emacs 20.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Barrett Richardson writes: > Use OSPF. Assign the IP address that it answers to a loopback interface. > Have the ethernet (or other) interface on a different network than > the IP address that answers requests. > [geek-speak elided :-] Who, it'll take me a while to digest that, but I think I understand what you're going for. I like it. > In internet land, other name servers are cacheing info your nameserver > doles out to them about your domain. When a client browser hits > www.whatever.com the information returned by the nameserver _it_ > is using may be days old. [...] The only way you can control > that is decrease the TTL significantly on your DNS records, which > introduces additional delay as your DNS constantly has to > repropagate to be in sync with the real-time loads on your server. Yeah, I think worse is that the clients (IE, NS) cache the record forever, regardless of the TTL. If the server at the address dies you have to stop and restart the browser. Yech. > If the load is primarily random accesses from internet land the > end result is that (realistically) you don't have any more finer > grained load balancing that with the simple hack of round robin > DNS. Understood. And I think it would be hard to craft a metric which doesn't swing wildly from under- to over-used; have to have the right "damping" but also respond quickly to increased loading. > I could see such a scheme working for client softwares that are directly > using this nameserver (should be great on your own networks). The > model becomes less feasible if the accesses are coming from random > locations not directly using your nameserver (for example the internet). All the ones I've read about employ a hacked/proxy DNS which changes responses based on , at best by trying to triangulate on the client's network. But you're right: increasing accuracy depends on decreasing TTL and therefore you increase DNS traffic. A big win would be if you could triangulate back to the client's local DNS; if the DNS were one used by a large site (e.g. an ISP, AoL, etc) then the DNS refresh load would be insignificant compared to the user population being served. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Aug 11 16: 1:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.delanet.com (hermes.delanet.com [208.9.136.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1DA0615580 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 16:01:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stevec@delanet.com) Received: (qmail 40782 invoked from network); 11 Aug 1999 22:59:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO delanet.com) (208.9.136.123) by mail.delanet.com with SMTP; 11 Aug 1999 22:59:25 -0000 Message-ID: <37B20106.40A6203C@delanet.com> Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 19:02:30 -0400 From: "Stephen C. Comoletti" Organization: DelaNET, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Try 2... Problems with 100Base on DEC 21143 controller Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Seems I need more sleep. Previously posted this and mixedup two different posts when I wrote it. Need more caffiene I guess. Anyhow, if anyone can help on the following problem (now with the correct information) I'd greatly appreciate it. I've recently upgraded to a 100base switch and put all of our main servers on it. Some of the servers are running FreeBSD 3.2r with a DEC 21143 controller on the MB (DEC 300i+ workstations). Problem I am having is that they refuse to negotiate at 100base on powerup or reboot. I added a 'ifconfig de0 media 100BaseTX' to the rc.conf for them, and while I have a green light on the switch, until I ifconfig down, then up the interface, it is not active. My 3.1 boxes seem somewhat more tollerant to this problem. I've put new cables in to be sure they were not an issue. I also have several MS NT4 machines on the same hardware which do not have any problems at all, which leads me to believe it's unique to this paticular driver (tulip driver?)....Are there any updates to this driver and/or changes I can make to fix this? Otherwise I'm stuck with a machine that is unable to have an unattended reboot or I run at 10Base again. Please cc me in any replies as I'm not on this list. Thanks in advance, -- Stephen Comoletti Systems Administrator Delanet, Inc. http://www.delanet.com ph: (302) 326-5800 fax: (302) 326-5802 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Aug 11 17: 9:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from snafu.adept.org (adsl-63-193-112-19.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.193.112.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E8A815670 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 17:09:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@snafu.adept.org) Received: from localhost (mike@localhost) by snafu.adept.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA01311; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 17:08:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 17:08:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Hoskins To: Chris Shenton Cc: Barrett Richardson , Steve Hovey , Mitch Vincent , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Loadbalance webservers In-Reply-To: <874si63v3o.fsf@Thanatos.Shenton.Org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 11 Aug 1999, Chris Shenton wrote: > Yeah, I think worse is that the clients (IE, NS) cache the record > forever, regardless of the TTL. If the server at the address dies you > have to stop and restart the browser. Yech. Yes, this is definately not crescent fresh (uh, not good). That's why I prefer the fresh and cool spiffiness of Foundry Network's ServerIron's... point your DNS to a 'virtual server's' public IP (one IP... never changes... no client restarts) which rotates among multiple internal IPs (implementing your choice of load balancing techniques and providing downed host detection, etc.). A lot of clients use these, even more than those with f5's stuff, and they tout their praises all the day long. I'm also starting to suggest these to friends... Something one must always be cautious about. ;) If you're trying to be creative or cut costs, then there's room for debate... If you just want something that works well, and is pretty darned fast to boot, try a ServerIron (I think there's even 'trial' packages available)... 'Gosh, it sure is swell.' :) -Mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Aug 12 0: 4: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from main.piter.net (main.piter.net [195.201.22.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7705714E69 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 00:03:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cyril@main.piter.net) Received: (from cyril@localhost) by main.piter.net (8.9.3/8.5.2/sply) id LAA23176; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 11:04:30 +0400 (MSD) Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 11:04:30 +0400 (MSD) From: "Cyril A. Vechera" Message-Id: <199908120704.LAA23176@main.piter.net> To: barrett@phoenix.aye.net, stuart@eclipse.net.uk Subject: Re: Loadbalance webservers Cc: cshenton@uucom.com, cygone@zoomnet.net, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, shovey@buffnet.net Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > > It would be way cool to modify the server-based daemon to have it > > > determine the network distance/cost to the *client* then feed that to > > > the lbnamed so it could return a record corresponding to the server > > > fastest/closest to the actual client. This would implement WAN load > > > balancing much like F5 Lab's $27K (each) 3DNS. > > > > I think Netscape used to do this in software (at least I always used > > to get the IP address of their UK mirror returned) but they seem not to > > be doing that now. > > > > Stuart > > > > Could be an artifact of normal BIND behaviour. When a nameserver > queries for something in somedomain.com it is given a list of > randomly ordered NS records to try for a zone. The RTT to each > of the nameservers is measured and queries are sent to the server > that replies the quickest. The tracking of RTTs is done continually > to account for any significant changes in the routes between the > server that is asking and the server that is answering. Yes. IMO, the most simple and most usefull way is to split DNS for every WWW/etc server, for example, if we have three machines in different networks, they could be configured by this scheme Network 1, WWW1 has ip-addres x.x.x.x Network 2, WWW2 has ip-addres y.y.y.y Network 3, WWW3 has ip-addres z.z.z.z And there are three DNS-servers, and DNS1 placed near WWW1, DNS2 - near WWW2 etc. all DNS-server must disable round-robin feature, and each one must have first A record for closest WWW-server, i.e. DNS1 www.your-domain.com A x.x.x.x www.your-domain.com A y.y.y.y www.your-domain.com A z.z.z.z DNS2 www.your-domain.com A y.y.y.y www.your-domain.com A z.z.z.z www.your-domain.com A x.x.x.x DNS3 www.your-domain.com A z.z.z.z www.your-domain.com A x.x.x.x www.your-domain.com A y.y.y.y Sincerely your, Cyril A. Vechera email:cyril@piter.net --------- http://sply.piter.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Aug 12 2:57:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from volodya.prime.net.ua (volodya.prime.net.ua [195.64.229.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 701EF14DBE for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 02:57:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andyo@prime.net.ua) Received: from prime.net.ua (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by volodya.prime.net.ua (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA01408 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 12:58:35 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from andyo@prime.net.ua) Message-ID: <37B29AC9.124CF65E@prime.net.ua> Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 12:58:34 +0300 From: "Andy V. Oleynik" Organization: M-Info X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en, ru, uk MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Problem with aliasing unregistered IPs on dialup server. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi everybody, I'm trying to configure dialup ppp server to assign unregistered IP to dialup clients. Before begining this process clients was assigned real IPs per ttyd* basis. All the changes I made was entry for one of the clients in ppp.secret like this: testclient * 10.0.0.1 * to override "set iffaddr" statements in ppp.conf's profiles like this: default: set log Phase Chat LCP IPCP CCP tun command set device /dev/cuaa1 set speed 57600 accept pap enable pap # enable alias yes # alias unregistered_only yes # alias addr REALSERVERIP 10.0.0.1 enable passwdauth allow user * allow mode direct set timeout 0 accept dns ttyd1: set ifaddr SERVERREALIP CLIENTREALIP1 [..] ttydN: set ifaddr SERVERREALIP CLIENTREALIPN ppp starts like "ppp -direct $TTYN" from ppplogin.sh. Also I've tried commented commands in ppp.conf. The result was that client could communicate only with hosts on the same subnet as dialup server was but not with hosts on another subnets of my network and naturally not with the rest of Internet. I've investigated that packets from client went outside with 10.0.0.1 source address w/o being aliased. And this is a reason of why client cannot communicate with the rest of Internet. Who can point me right way to force aliasing of unregistered IPs? Thank U in advance. -- WBW Andy V. Oleynik (When U work in virtual office prime.net.ua's U have good chance to obtain system administrator virtual money ö%-) +380442448363 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Aug 12 3:43:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1B0B14FDF for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 03:43:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des@flood.ping.uio.no) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA17469; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 12:43:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from des) To: Doug Cc: ndear@areti.net, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mbuf clusters. References: <199908111513.QAA21355@post.mail.areti.net> <37B1B1EE.4DCF214F@gorean.org> From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 12 Aug 1999 12:43:13 +0200 In-Reply-To: Doug's message of "Wed, 11 Aug 1999 10:25:02 -0700" Message-ID: Lines: 32 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Doug writes: > It's impossible to answer this question intelligently without knowing your > version of the OS and your current kernel maxusers setting, not to mention > memory, processor, etc. However in general for a short term crisis > situation like this you can go to 512 maxusers and 15000 NMBCLUSTERS on a > 2.2.8 system, assuming that you have enough ram. No. Increasing MAXUSERS beyond 128 on a pre-3.2 system is very risky. The problem is not RAM, but kernel virtual memory space. BTW, there's no point in increasing MAXUSERS if you set NMBCLUSTERS separately. The only other parameters controlled by MAXUSERS are NPROC (20 + 16 * MAXUSERS) and MAXFILES (NPROC * 2), but MAXFILES can be tuned at run time by setting the kern.maxfiles sysctl variable. The default for NMBCLUSTERS is (512 + MAXUSERS * 16). > I'd say 256M ought to do > it. If you have a 3.2 system you can go higher on these numbers, but > chances are you won't need to. netstat [-s | -sr | -m] will give you a > better idea of hot to tune it when the crisis is over. If you have a 3.2 system, you can simply add the following line to /boot/loader.conf: kern.ipc.nmbclusters="8192" No need to build a new kernel. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Aug 12 8:25:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from storm.FreeBSD.org.uk (storm.freebsd.org.uk [194.242.128.198]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECE28157E5 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 08:25:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by storm.FreeBSD.org.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA47611; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 16:25:32 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (brian@localhost.lan.Awfulhak.org [127.0.0.1]) by keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA03980; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 16:27:35 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <199908121527.QAA03980@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Andy V. Oleynik" Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problem with aliasing unregistered IPs on dialup server. In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 12 Aug 1999 12:58:34 +0300." <37B29AC9.124CF65E@prime.net.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 16:27:35 +0100 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > = > Hi everybody, > = > I'm trying to configure dialup ppp server to > = > assign unregistered IP to dialup clients. > = > Before begining this process clients was assigned > = > real IPs per ttyd* basis. All the changes I made > = > was entry for one of the clients in ppp.secret like this: > = > testclient * 10.0.0.1 * > = > to override "set iffaddr" statements in ppp.conf's profiles [.....] Sounds like your Internet gateway doesn't know how to route 10.0.0.1 = to your ppp server. > -- > WBW Andy V. Oleynik (When U work in virtual office > prime.net.ua's U have good chance to obtain > system administrator virtual money =F6%-) > +380442448363 -- = Brian Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Aug 12 9: 9:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from dt011n65.san.rr.com (dt011n65.san.rr.com [204.210.13.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0BC414F06 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 09:09:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Received: from gorean.org (master [10.0.0.2]) by dt011n65.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA79508; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 09:07:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Message-ID: <37B2F147.1BFC9C39@gorean.org> Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 09:07:35 -0700 From: Doug Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT-0811 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Cc: ndear@areti.net, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mbuf clusters. References: <199908111513.QAA21355@post.mail.areti.net> <37B1B1EE.4DCF214F@gorean.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > > Doug writes: > > It's impossible to answer this question intelligently without knowing your > > version of the OS and your current kernel maxusers setting, not to mention > > memory, processor, etc. However in general for a short term crisis > > situation like this you can go to 512 maxusers and 15000 NMBCLUSTERS on a > > 2.2.8 system, assuming that you have enough ram. > > No. Increasing MAXUSERS beyond 128 on a pre-3.2 system is very risky. > The problem is not RAM, but kernel virtual memory space. I ran highly loaded IRC servers like that for years. In 2.2.8 increasing maxusers beyond 512 or NMBCLUSTERS above 15k is a pessimization, but those levels are safe as long as you have the physical ram to handle it. > BTW, there's no point in increasing MAXUSERS if you set NMBCLUSTERS > separately. Unless you also need more of those other things too. :) In our case it was maxfiles that was the issue. One of my servers often ran 5,000 simultaneous connections and we needed about 2.5 times that in open files to handle it all. We could have gotten by with just adjusting those two parameters by hand, but things seemed to run "better" with maxusers set higher, and we could afford the wasted space in the process table. I suggested raising everything at once because this is/was a crisis situation for the user. However I also suggested that once he reaches a stable level he should tune it back down to his actual needs. Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Aug 12 10: 3:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E46E015770 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 10:03:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des@flood.ping.uio.no) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA18653; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 19:01:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from des) To: Doug Cc: Dag-Erling Smorgrav , ndear@areti.net, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mbuf clusters. References: <199908111513.QAA21355@post.mail.areti.net> <37B1B1EE.4DCF214F@gorean.org> <37B2F147.1BFC9C39@gorean.org> From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 12 Aug 1999 19:01:10 +0200 In-Reply-To: Doug's message of "Thu, 12 Aug 1999 09:07:35 -0700" Message-ID: Lines: 17 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Doug writes: > I ran highly loaded IRC servers like that for years. In 2.2.8 increasing > maxusers beyond 512 or NMBCLUSTERS above 15k is a pessimization, but those > levels are safe as long as you have the physical ram to handle it. No, they're not. There are "sweet spots" (specific values of maxusers which work), but increasing maxusers beyond 128 on quarter-gig-kva systems basically makes the system unstable. > Unless you also need more of those other things too. :) In our case it > was maxfiles that was the issue. maxfiles can be set at run time. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Aug 12 11:17: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from hoemlsrv.firewall.lucent.com (hoemail1.lucent.com [192.11.226.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CAE61577D for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 11:17:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmcswain@lucent.com) Received: from cbemh.cb.lucent.com (h135-7-35-160.lucent.com [135.7.35.160]) by hoemlsrv.firewall.lucent.com (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA28282 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 13:21:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cbemh.cb.lucent.com (8.8.8+Sun/EMS-1.5 sol2) id NAA24457; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 13:21:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lucent.com by cbemh.cb.lucent.com (8.8.8+Sun/EMS-1.5 sol2) id NAA24453; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 13:21:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <37B30081.30F0C5F6@lucent.com> Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 13:12:33 -0400 From: Dale McSwain Organization: Lucent Technologies X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51C-CCK-MCD EMS-1.4 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.6 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Autoboot with 3.1? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Greetings, How do I get my 3.1 system to autoboot? I have to press F1 and then F5 manually for the system to boot. FreeBSD is the only OS installed on the box. Dale McSwain communigate internet To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Aug 12 11:23: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from unix.megared.net.mx (megared.net.mx [207.249.162.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BB9E15874 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 11:22:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ales@megared.net.mx) Received: from ales (ales.megared.net.mx [207.249.163.252]) by unix.megared.net.mx (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA84327; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 13:22:04 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from ales@megared.net.mx) Message-ID: <006401bee4ef$a1b28320$fca3f9cf@megared.net.mx> From: "Alejandro Ramirez" To: "Dale McSwain" , References: <37B30081.30F0C5F6@lucent.com> Subject: RE: Autoboot with 3.1? Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 13:22:27 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Just install an standard MBR, you can doit in two ways a:\fdisk /mbr or through sysinstall. Ales ----- Original Message ----- From: Dale McSwain To: Sent: Thursday, August 12, 1999 12:12 PM Subject: Autoboot with 3.1? > > Greetings, > > How do I get my 3.1 system to autoboot? > I have to press F1 and then F5 manually for the > system to boot. FreeBSD is the only OS installed > on the box. > > Dale McSwain > communigate internet > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Aug 12 11:36:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from jade.chc-chimes.com (jade.chc-chimes.com [216.28.46.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21D891584F for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 11:36:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billf@jade.chc-chimes.com) Received: by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 58E201C09; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 13:35:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DF55381F; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 13:35:25 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 13:35:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Fumerola To: Dale McSwain Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Autoboot with 3.1? In-Reply-To: <37B30081.30F0C5F6@lucent.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 12 Aug 1999, Dale McSwain wrote: > How do I get my 3.1 system to autoboot? > I have to press F1 and then F5 manually for the > system to boot. FreeBSD is the only OS installed > on the box. You mean 'F5' then 'F1'. Just let it go, once you do it once, the next time it will do it automatically. BTW - This is a stupid question for -isp, why on $DIETY's green earth would you send it to -isp. Use -questions next time. -- - bill fumerola - billf@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfumerol@computerhorizons.com - billf@FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Aug 12 11:43:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from dt011n65.san.rr.com (dt011n65.san.rr.com [204.210.13.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8E8B14DB9 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 11:43:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by dt011n65.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA81168; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 11:43:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 11:43:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug X-Sender: doug@dt011n65.san.rr.com To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Cc: ndear@areti.net, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mbuf clusters. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 12 Aug 1999, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > Doug writes: > > I ran highly loaded IRC servers like that for years. In 2.2.8 increasing > > maxusers beyond 512 or NMBCLUSTERS above 15k is a pessimization, but those > > levels are safe as long as you have the physical ram to handle it. > > No, they're not. There are "sweet spots" (specific values of maxusers > which work), but increasing maxusers beyond 128 on quarter-gig-kva > systems basically makes the system unstable. If you believe that you should document it with accompanying evidence to support your claims. I'm talking real world experience on several machines (c. 20) over the course of two years, so I'm not going to back down from saying that those settings do work. Doug -- On account of being a democracy and run by the people, we are the only nation in the world that has to keep a government four years, no matter what it does. -- Will Rogers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Aug 12 13:31:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from P1M13.prime.net.ua (P1M13.prime.net.ua [195.64.229.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AB1414C83 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 13:31:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andyo@prime.net.ua) Received: from prime.net.ua (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by andyo.prime.net (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA00385; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 23:09:57 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from andyo@prime.net.ua) Message-ID: <37B32A12.6369EC44@prime.net.ua> Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 23:09:54 +0300 From: "Andy V. Oleynik" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: ru, en, uk MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brian Somers Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problem with aliasing unregistered IPs on dialup server. References: <199908121527.QAA03980@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Brian Somers wrote: > > > > Hi everybody, > > > > I'm trying to configure dialup ppp server to > > > > assign unregistered IP to dialup clients. > > > > Before begining this process clients was assigned > > > > real IPs per ttyd* basis. All the changes I made > > > > was entry for one of the clients in ppp.secret like this: > > > > testclient * 10.0.0.1 * > > > > to override "set iffaddr" statements in ppp.conf's profiles > [.....] > > Sounds like your Internet gateway doesn't know how to route 10.0.0.1 > to your ppp server. > No, it knows. I can ping from client ppp server and other hosts residing on the same ethernet in the same subnet can too . Also I can reach 10.0.0.1 client from ppp server and these hosts. I understand that while ppp-server has direct route to the client and other hosts on the ether have this ppp-server as defaultrouter they can reach client. But hosts from outside this subnet, such as host that is defaultrouter for my ppp-server doesnt know how to reach 10.0.0.0/24 hosts and they sends their repleys to their defaultrouters - checked with tcpdump. And my question was why ppp doesnt alias the packets from unregistered networks. I think ppp have to works like natd in this case. I.e. every packet from unregistered have to be resent to destination by ppp with its own addr. And answers have to be retransmitted to the client. Isnt it? What is the reason of my failure? > -- WBW Andy V. Oleynik (When U work in virtual office prime.net.ua's U have good chance to obtain system administrator virtual money Ã%o) +380442448363 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Aug 12 13:50:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from P1M13.prime.net.ua (P1M8.prime.net.ua [195.64.229.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0C5D1589A for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 13:50:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andyo@prime.net.ua) Received: from prime.net.ua (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by P1M13.prime.net.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA00639; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 23:52:03 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <37B333EF.4F2A8CDC@prime.net.ua> Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 23:52:00 +0300 From: "Andy V. Oleynik" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: ru, en, uk MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brian Somers , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problem with aliasing unregistered IPs on dialup server. References: <199908121527.QAA03980@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org> <37B32A12.6369EC44@prime.net.ua> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Andy V. Oleynik" wrote: > Brian Somers wrote: > > > > > > > Hi everybody, > > > > > > I'm trying to configure dialup ppp server to > > > > > > assign unregistered IP to dialup clients. > > > > > > Before begining this process clients was assigned > > > > > > real IPs per ttyd* basis. All the changes I made > > > > > > was entry for one of the clients in ppp.secret like this: > > > > > > testclient * 10.0.0.1 * > > > > > > to override "set iffaddr" statements in ppp.conf's profiles > > [.....] > > > > Sounds like your Internet gateway doesn't know how to route 10.0.0.1 > > to your ppp server. > Hmm. In previous letter I misunderstood U. Yes, of course my border router doesnt know where 10.0.0.0/24 or similar resides. It probably asks roots and obtains no or invalidate answers. But I beleaved that ppp masquerding such an addresses so answers reach the ppp server where they are retransmitted to 10.0.0.1 or similar. What did I misunderstand? > > > > -- WBW Andy V. Oleynik (When U work in virtual office prime.net.ua's U have good chance to obtain system administrator virtual money Ã%o) +380442448363 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Aug 12 15:32: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mu.egroups.com (mu.egroups.com [207.138.41.151]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1A35114D87 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 15:31:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rmartine@infosel.com.mx) Received: from [10.1.2.26] by mu.egroups.com with NNFMP; 12 Aug 1999 23:29:30 -0000 Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 15:29:20 -0700 From: rmartine@infosel.com.mx To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: small isp Message-ID: <7ovhs0$59cb@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.76 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Length: 166 X-Mailer: www.eGroups.com Message Poster Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I want to start a small isp bussines. Can somebody help with what=B4s need of hardware and software to start and how much does it cost ? I=B4ll appreciated a lot ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Aug 12 15:39:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from Aries.utstar.com (mail.utstar.com [205.185.99.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B8EC15682; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 15:39:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from suvrat@utstar.com) Received: from suvrat.utstar.com (nj48.utstar.com [172.16.2.48] (may be forged)) by Aries.utstar.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA19524; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 18:36:24 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199908122236.SAA19524@Aries.utstar.com> From: "Suvrat" To: , , Subject: userPPP vs kernel PPP performance Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 18:38:39 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Any pointers to userPPP(iijPPP) vs kernelPPP(pppd) performance? thanks -suvrat email: suvrat@utstar.com Senior Software Engineer Ph (w) 732-767-5219 UTStarcom Inc (r) 732-721-3304 33 Wood Ave. south, 8th Flr. Iselin, NJ 08830 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Aug 13 0:50:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from webhotel.combo.dk (webhotel.combo.dk [212.10.14.142]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A7AA614DAC for ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 00:50:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kak@bitnisse.dk) Received: (qmail 22897 invoked from network); 13 Aug 1999 07:46:31 -0000 Received: from ip114.naenxr1.ras.tele.dk (HELO wrkkak) (195.249.33.114) by webhotel.combo.dk with SMTP; 13 Aug 1999 07:46:31 -0000 Message-ID: <002a01bee560$2ef3bfe0$0a69a8c0@combo.dk> From: "Kenneth Karlsson" To: Cc: References: <7ovhs0$59cb@eGroups.com> Subject: Sv: small isp Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 09:42:44 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Define small ! I run a webhotel / mailhotel on a IBM PC Server 320 / 64 MB / 4 GB, and = host some 25 domains, with approx. 150 mailaccounts. And i have to say, = it runs GREAT ! that said, i am aware i in the future have to offer some = new products, which might need better HW, (PHP, SQL Database etc.). I am = currently running FBSD2.2.8R, the plans are to upgrade to 3.3R when it = comes - so i am currently testing methods of moving user accounts / = homedirs etc (any good ressources ?). The IBM320 is a P120 with PCI/EISA Bus - latest purchase was a UPS for = it :-)) In Denmark we can get internet access without fee (other than tele), so = i rely on this connection type rather than making my own dial-in. M.v.h Kenneth Karlsson * CDS / CCA * BSD/Dk - http://www.bsd-dk.dk ----- Original Message -----=20 From: To: Sent: Friday, August 13, 1999 12:29 AM Subject: small isp I want to start a small isp bussines. Can somebody help with what=B4s need of hardware and software to start and how much does it cost ? I=B4ll appreciated a lot ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Aug 13 1:34:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from storm.FreeBSD.org.uk (storm.freebsd.org.uk [194.242.128.198]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C88DF14D82 for ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 01:34:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by storm.FreeBSD.org.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA37122; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 09:33:45 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (brian@localhost.lan.Awfulhak.org [127.0.0.1]) by keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA00498; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 09:03:23 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <199908130803.JAA00498@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Andy V. Oleynik" Cc: Brian Somers , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problem with aliasing unregistered IPs on dialup server. In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 12 Aug 1999 23:09:54 +0300." <37B32A12.6369EC44@prime.net.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 09:03:23 +0100 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Brian Somers wrote: > = > > > > > > Hi everybody, > > > > > > I'm trying to configure dialup ppp server to > > > > > > assign unregistered IP to dialup clients. > > > > > > Before begining this process clients was assigned > > > > > > real IPs per ttyd* basis. All the changes I made > > > > > > was entry for one of the clients in ppp.secret like this: > > > > > > testclient * 10.0.0.1 * > > > > > > to override "set iffaddr" statements in ppp.conf's profiles > > [.....] > > > > Sounds like your Internet gateway doesn't know how to route 10.0.0.1 > > to your ppp server. > > > = > No, it knows. I can ping from client ppp server and other hosts residin= g on > = > the same ethernet in the same subnet can too . Also I can reach 10.0.0.= 1 > client from ppp server > and these hosts. I understand that while ppp-server has direct route to= the > client and > other hosts on the ether have this ppp-server as defaultrouter they can= > reach client. > But hosts from outside this subnet, such as host that is defaultrouter = for > my ppp-server > doesnt know how to reach 10.0.0.0/24 hosts and they sends their repleys= to > their > defaultrouters - checked with tcpdump. And my question was why ppp does= nt > alias the > packets from unregistered networks. I think ppp have to works like nat= d in > this case. > I.e. every packet from unregistered have to be resent to destination by= ppp > with its own addr. > And answers have to be retransmitted to the client. Isnt it? What is th= e > reason of my failure? If you've got the following setup: ------- ------------- -------- 'net---| Box A |-- LAN --| Box B (ppp) |-----| Client | ------- ------------- -------- You need to run the aliasing software on the 'net side of Box A and = make sure that Box A knows how to route to Client via Box B (10/24) = so that it makes everything look like it comes from itself when it = transmits to the 'net and so that it knows what to do with the = replies when it gets them back. My suspicion was that Box A didn't know how to route to Client via = Box B. If Box A can talk directly to Client, and Box A runs either natd or = ppp -alias on it's 'net interface, there should be no problem. > -- > WBW Andy V. Oleynik (When U work in virtual office > prime.net.ua's U have good chance to obtain > system administrator virtual money =C3%o) > +380442448363 -- = Brian Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Aug 13 1:49:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from volodya.prime.net.ua (volodya.prime.net.ua [195.64.229.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86B3014D82 for ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 01:49:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andyo@prime.net.ua) Received: from prime.net.ua (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by volodya.prime.net.ua (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA00383; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 11:48:41 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from andyo@prime.net.ua) Message-ID: <37B3DBE7.F575EF31@prime.net.ua> Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 11:48:40 +0300 From: "Andy V. Oleynik" Organization: M-Info X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en, ru, uk MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brian Somers Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problem with aliasing unregistered IPs on dialup server. References: <199908130803.JAA00498@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Brian Somers wrote: > > > > No, it knows. I can ping from client ppp server and other hosts residing on > > > > the same ethernet in the same subnet can too . Also I can reach 10.0.0.1 > > client from ppp server > > and these hosts. I understand that while ppp-server has direct route to the > > client and > > other hosts on the ether have this ppp-server as defaultrouter they can > > reach client. > > But hosts from outside this subnet, such as host that is defaultrouter for > > my ppp-server > > doesnt know how to reach 10.0.0.0/24 hosts and they sends their repleys to > > their > > defaultrouters - checked with tcpdump. And my question was why ppp doesnt > > alias the > > packets from unregistered networks. I think ppp have to works like natd in > > this case. > > I.e. every packet from unregistered have to be resent to destination by ppp > > with its own addr. > > And answers have to be retransmitted to the client. Isnt it? What is the > > reason of my failure? > > If you've got the following setup: > > ------- ------------- -------- > 'net---| Box A |-- LAN --| Box B (ppp) |-----| Client | > ------- ------------- -------- > No, but similar: _______ ________ INET------|BOXA|---PPP-leased-multi-line---|BOX B |---PPP-dialup--|Client| ---------- ------------- On the BOXB ppp-server side I have aliasing with: alias enable yes alias unregistered_only yes BOXB have real IP. All the packets from Client go w/o aliasing through the BOXB outside the subnet. > > You need to run the aliasing software on the 'net side of Box A and > make sure that Box A knows how to route to Client via Box B (10/24) > so that it makes everything look like it comes from itself when it > transmits to the 'net and so that it knows what to do with the > replies when it gets them back. > > My suspicion was that Box A didn't know how to route to Client via > Box B. > > If Box A can talk directly to Client, and Box A runs either natd or > ppp -alias on it's 'net interface, there should be no problem. > > > -- > > WBW Andy V. Oleynik (When U work in virtual office > > prime.net.ua's U have good chance to obtain > > system administrator virtual money Ã%o) > > +380442448363 > > -- > Brian > > Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! -- WBW Andy V. Oleynik (When U work in virtual office prime.net.ua's U have good chance to obtain system administrator virtual money ö%-) +380442448363 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Aug 13 3: 9:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from storm.FreeBSD.org.uk (storm.freebsd.org.uk [194.242.128.198]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2135414DE8 for ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 03:09:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by storm.FreeBSD.org.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA39837; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 11:07:46 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (brian@localhost.lan.Awfulhak.org [127.0.0.1]) by keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA27283; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 11:09:54 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <199908131009.LAA27283@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Andy V. Oleynik" Cc: Brian Somers , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problem with aliasing unregistered IPs on dialup server. In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 13 Aug 1999 11:48:40 +0300." <37B3DBE7.F575EF31@prime.net.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 11:09:54 +0100 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org You need to run the aliasing software on the external interface - in = your case, either the external BoxB interface or have the client box = run it. Running it on the private interface of Box B doesn't work :-| > Brian Somers wrote: > = > > > > > > No, it knows. I can ping from client ppp server and other hosts res= iding on > > > > > > the same ethernet in the same subnet can too . Also I can reach 10.= 0.0.1 > > > client from ppp server > > > and these hosts. I understand that while ppp-server has direct rout= e to the > > > client and > > > other hosts on the ether have this ppp-server as defaultrouter they= can > > > reach client. > > > But hosts from outside this subnet, such as host that is defaultrou= ter for > > > my ppp-server > > > doesnt know how to reach 10.0.0.0/24 hosts and they sends their rep= leys to > > > their > > > defaultrouters - checked with tcpdump. And my question was why ppp = doesnt > > > alias the > > > packets from unregistered networks. I think ppp have to works like= natd in > > > this case. > > > I.e. every packet from unregistered have to be resent to destinatio= n by ppp > > > with its own addr. > > > And answers have to be retransmitted to the client. Isnt it? What i= s the > > > reason of my failure? > > > > If you've got the following setup: > > > > ------- ------------- -------- > > 'net---| Box A |-- LAN --| Box B (ppp) |-----| Client | > > ------- ------------- -------- > > > = > No, but similar: > = > _______ > ________ > INET------|BOXA|---PPP-leased-multi-line---|BOX B |---PPP-dialup--|Cli= ent| > ---------- > ------------- > On the BOXB ppp-server side I have aliasing with: > alias enable yes > alias unregistered_only yes > BOXB have real IP. All the packets from Client go w/o aliasing through = the BOXB > outside the subnet. > = > > > > You need to run the aliasing software on the 'net side of Box A and > > make sure that Box A knows how to route to Client via Box B (10/24) > > so that it makes everything look like it comes from itself when it > > transmits to the 'net and so that it knows what to do with the > > replies when it gets them back. > > > > My suspicion was that Box A didn't know how to route to Client via > > Box B. > > > > If Box A can talk directly to Client, and Box A runs either natd or > > ppp -alias on it's 'net interface, there should be no problem. > > > > > -- > > > WBW Andy V. Oleynik (When U work in virtual office > > > prime.net.ua's U have good chance to obtain > > > system administrator virtual money =C3%o) > > > +380442448363 -- = Brian Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Aug 13 7:27:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from proteus.eclipse.net.uk (proteus.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.118]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ED0514DE4 for ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 07:27:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stuart@eclipse.net.uk) Received: from eclipse.net.uk (elara.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.31]) by proteus.eclipse.net.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 862AF9B36; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 15:27:31 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <37B42BC7.668B9A1D@eclipse.net.uk> Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 15:29:27 +0100 From: Stuart Henderson Organization: Eclipse Networking Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kenneth Karlsson Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, rmartine@infosel.com.mx Subject: Re: Sv: small isp References: <7ovhs0$59cb@eGroups.com> <002a01bee560$2ef3bfe0$0a69a8c0@combo.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This document: http://www.interlinkweb.com/~main/isp-faq-list.htm is a good place to start reading. Also, I would recommend getting Greg Lehey's "Complete FreeBSD" book if you don't already have a copy and are new to the OS. -sh To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Aug 13 9:20:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from troi.csw.net (troi.csw.net [209.136.192.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02A6615029 for ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 09:20:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lambert@cswnet.com) Received: from ssaos2.csw.net (ssaos2.csw.net [209.136.201.13]) by troi.csw.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA98264 for ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 11:17:43 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from lambert@cswnet.com) Message-Id: <199908131617.LAA98264@troi.csw.net> From: lambert@cswnet.com Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 11:06:09 -0500 To: FreeBSD-ISP@FreeBSD.org Subject: pwd_mkdb and system processes X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.60 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've been trying to track down a problem on my e-mail server where it stops processing smtp and pop processes for 5 minutes at a time. # wc -l /etc/passwd 14945 /etc/passwd We rebuild this file once per hour to add or remove customers. I finally caught it with a top session running at the time. Inetd was accepting new connections and starting popper but people can't authenticate. Sendmail accepts new connections but they stall until pwd_mkdb goes away. When I try to run a command from the command line, it doesn't execute until pwd_mkdb gets done. The CPU is 97% idle during this time. Does all file access in the system stop while pwd_mkdb runs? 3.2-STABLE June 30ish. SMP -- Scott Lambert lambert@cswnet.com Systems and Security Administrator CSW Net, Inc. ================================================================ Written: Friday, August 13, 1999 - 11:06 AM To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Aug 13 9:35:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.toplink.net (mail.toplink.net [195.2.171.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72C7D1502D for ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 09:35:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ck@toplink.net) Received: from babylon.toplink.net (babylon.toplink.net [195.2.171.90]) by mail.toplink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA19122; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 18:35:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (ck@localhost) by babylon.toplink.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA20162; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 18:30:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ck@toplink.net) From: ck@toplink.net Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 18:30:41 +0200 (CEST) To: lambert@cswnet.com Cc: FreeBSD-ISP@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: pwd_mkdb and system processes In-Reply-To: <199908131617.LAA98264@troi.csw.net> Message-ID: X-NCC-RegID: de.toplink X-Spammer-Kill-Ratio: 75% X-Jihad: Will hunt down all cases of Spam and Net abuse. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, it takes quite some time to build a dbm file of 15k users. pwd_mkdb would need to be rewritten to build the dbm file somewhere else and then quickly unlink the old dbm file und replace it with the new one. We do similar stuff when building our dbm users file for radius. We build it somewhere else and then quickly replace it. pwd_mkdb is propably not made with this kind of stuff in mind. You would need to fix that. Greetings Christian On Fri, 13 Aug 1999 lambert@cswnet.com wrote: > I've been trying to track down a problem on my e-mail server where it > stops processing smtp and pop processes for 5 minutes at a time. > > # wc -l /etc/passwd > 14945 /etc/passwd > > We rebuild this file once per hour to add or remove customers. > > I finally caught it with a top session running at the time. > > Inetd was accepting new connections and starting popper but people can't > authenticate. > Sendmail accepts new connections but they stall until pwd_mkdb goes away. > When I try to run a command from the command line, it doesn't execute > until pwd_mkdb gets done. > The CPU is 97% idle during this time. > > Does all file access in the system stop while pwd_mkdb runs? > > 3.2-STABLE June 30ish. SMP > > -- TopLink Internet Services GmbH ck@171.2.195.in-addr.arpa Christian Kratzer http://www.toplink.net/ Phone: +49 7032 2701-0 Fax: +49 7032 2701-19 FreeBSD spoken here! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Aug 13 9:41:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from corwin.nall.com (corwin.nall.com [216.30.44.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C5E914E9D for ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 09:41:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joe@nall.com) Received: from nall.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by corwin.nall.com with ESMTP (8.7.1/8.7.1) id LAA14588; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 11:40:19 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <37B44A72.94B35E78@nall.com> Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 11:40:18 -0500 From: Joe Nall Organization: Nall Design Works X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; HP-UX B.10.26 9000/770) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lambert@cswnet.com Cc: FreeBSD-ISP@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: pwd_mkdb and system processes References: <199908131617.LAA98264@troi.csw.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org lambert@cswnet.com wrote: > > I've been trying to track down a problem on my e-mail server where it > stops processing smtp and pop processes for 5 minutes at a time. > > # wc -l /etc/passwd > 14945 /etc/passwd > > We rebuild this file once per hour to add or remove customers. > > I finally caught it with a top session running at the time. > > Inetd was accepting new connections and starting popper but people can't > authenticate. > Sendmail accepts new connections but they stall until pwd_mkdb goes away. > When I try to run a command from the command line, it doesn't execute > until pwd_mkdb gets done. > The CPU is 97% idle during this time. > > Does all file access in the system stop while pwd_mkdb runs? No but all password lookups do. Both of theses commands rely on the file you are rebuilding and the files involved are locked during the process. You might try pwd_mkdp -d /tmp <> followed by a mv of the relevant files into /etc or try pwd_mkdb -u at the time the passwd file gets modified and avoid the overhead of the total rebuild. YMMV, I haven't used the -d option. Joe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Aug 13 9:48:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from buffnet4.buffnet.net (buffnet4.buffnet.net [205.246.19.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93BD414F9F for ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 09:48:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shovey@buffnet.net) Received: from buffnet11.buffnet.net (buffnet11.buffnet.net [205.246.19.55]) by buffnet4.buffnet.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA26158; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 12:47:46 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from shovey@buffnet.net) Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 12:47:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve Hovey To: Joe Nall Cc: lambert@cswnet.com, FreeBSD-ISP@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: pwd_mkdb and system processes In-Reply-To: <37B44A72.94B35E78@nall.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Or just increase the cache size it uses to it gets done quicker On Fri, 13 Aug 1999, Joe Nall wrote: > lambert@cswnet.com wrote: > > > > I've been trying to track down a problem on my e-mail server where it > > stops processing smtp and pop processes for 5 minutes at a time. > > > > # wc -l /etc/passwd > > 14945 /etc/passwd > > > > We rebuild this file once per hour to add or remove customers. > > > > I finally caught it with a top session running at the time. > > > > Inetd was accepting new connections and starting popper but people can't > > authenticate. > > Sendmail accepts new connections but they stall until pwd_mkdb goes away. > > When I try to run a command from the command line, it doesn't execute > > until pwd_mkdb gets done. > > The CPU is 97% idle during this time. > > > > Does all file access in the system stop while pwd_mkdb runs? > No but all password lookups do. Both of theses commands rely on the > file you are rebuilding and the files involved are locked during the > process. You might try pwd_mkdp -d /tmp <> followed by a mv of the > relevant files into /etc or try pwd_mkdb -u at the time the > passwd file gets modified and avoid the overhead of the total rebuild. > YMMV, I haven't used the -d option. > Joe > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Aug 13 10:47:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from troi.csw.net (troi.csw.net [209.136.192.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4E6414F2B for ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 10:47:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lambert@cswnet.com) Received: from ssaos2.csw.net (ssaos2.csw.net [209.136.201.13]) by troi.csw.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA21122 for ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 12:46:05 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from lambert@cswnet.com) Message-Id: <199908131746.MAA21122@troi.csw.net> From: lambert@cswnet.com Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 12:40:11 -0500 To: FreeBSD-ISP@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: pwd_mkdb and system processes X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.60 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org That did it. It went from 4:40 seconds to 20 seconds. I just gave it a cache size of 10 MB on the command line args. I could probably tune it down from there but I'm not into swap on this box anyway so it isn't hurting me and as my userbase grows it will handle the load. Thanks, In , on 08/13/99 at 12:47 PM, Steve Hovey said: >Or just increase the cache size it uses to it gets done quicker >On Fri, 13 Aug 1999, Joe Nall wrote: >> lambert@cswnet.com wrote: >> > >> > I've been trying to track down a problem on my e-mail server where it >> > stops processing smtp and pop processes for 5 minutes at a time. >> > >> > # wc -l /etc/passwd >> > 14945 /etc/passwd >> > >> > We rebuild this file once per hour to add or remove customers. >> > >> > I finally caught it with a top session running at the time. >> > >> > Inetd was accepting new connections and starting popper but people can't >> > authenticate. >> > Sendmail accepts new connections but they stall until pwd_mkdb goes away. >> > When I try to run a command from the command line, it doesn't execute >> > until pwd_mkdb gets done. >> > The CPU is 97% idle during this time. >> > >> > Does all file access in the system stop while pwd_mkdb runs? >> No but all password lookups do. Both of theses commands rely on the >> file you are rebuilding and the files involved are locked during the >> process. You might try pwd_mkdp -d /tmp <> followed by a mv of the >> relevant files into /etc or try pwd_mkdb -u at the time the >> passwd file gets modified and avoid the overhead of the total rebuild. >> YMMV, I haven't used the -d option. >> Joe >> >> >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message >> -- Scott Lambert lambert@cswnet.com Systems and Security Administrator CSW Net, Inc. ================================================================ Written: Friday, August 13, 1999 - 12:40 PM To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Aug 13 13:40:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from prime.net.ua (P1M3.prime.net.ua [195.64.229.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 859ED14D6E for ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 13:40:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andyo@prime.net.ua) Received: from prime.net.ua (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by prime.net.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA00839; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 23:39:52 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <37B48296.B85E7E15@prime.net.ua> Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 23:39:51 +0300 From: "Andy V. Oleynik" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: ru, en, uk MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brian Somers Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problem with aliasing unregistered IPs on dialup server. References: <199908121527.QAA03980@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thank U, Brian, once more. Aliasing of external interface helped. Now masquearading works just fine. May be there is reason to clarify in the ppp related docs where the aliasing should be performed to work properly? Brian Somers wrote: > > > > Hi everybody, > > > > I'm trying to configure dialup ppp server to > > > > assign unregistered IP to dialup clients. > > > > Before begining this process clients was assigned > > > > real IPs per ttyd* basis. All the changes I made > > > > was entry for one of the clients in ppp.secret like this: > > > > testclient * 10.0.0.1 * > > > > to override "set iffaddr" statements in ppp.conf's profiles > [.....] > > Sounds like your Internet gateway doesn't know how to route 10.0.0.1 > to your ppp server. > > > -- > > WBW Andy V. Oleynik (When U work in virtual office > > prime.net.ua's U have good chance to obtain > > system administrator virtual money Ã%-) > > +380442448363 > > -- > Brian > > Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! -- WBW Andy V. Oleynik (When U work in virtual office prime.net.ua's U have good chance to obtain system administrator virtual money Ã%o) +380442448363 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Aug 13 14:29:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from unix.megared.net.mx (megared.net.mx [207.249.162.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62BE314EAB for ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 14:29:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ales@megared.net.mx) Received: from ales (ales.megared.net.mx [207.249.163.252]) by unix.megared.net.mx (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA69953; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 16:29:11 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from ales@megared.net.mx) Message-ID: <00ca01bee5d2$ecf7aca0$fca3f9cf@megared.net.mx> From: "Alejandro Ramirez" To: "Steve Hovey" , "Joe Nall" Cc: , References: Subject: RE: pwd_mkdb and system processes Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 16:29:29 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, How do you do it ??? Ales ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Hovey To: Joe Nall Cc: ; Sent: Friday, August 13, 1999 11:47 AM Subject: Re: pwd_mkdb and system processes > > Or just increase the cache size it uses to it gets done quicker > > On Fri, 13 Aug 1999, Joe Nall wrote: > > > lambert@cswnet.com wrote: > > > > > > I've been trying to track down a problem on my e-mail server where it > > > stops processing smtp and pop processes for 5 minutes at a time. > > > > > > # wc -l /etc/passwd > > > 14945 /etc/passwd > > > > > > We rebuild this file once per hour to add or remove customers. > > > > > > I finally caught it with a top session running at the time. > > > > > > Inetd was accepting new connections and starting popper but people can't > > > authenticate. > > > Sendmail accepts new connections but they stall until pwd_mkdb goes away. > > > When I try to run a command from the command line, it doesn't execute > > > until pwd_mkdb gets done. > > > The CPU is 97% idle during this time. > > > > > > Does all file access in the system stop while pwd_mkdb runs? > > No but all password lookups do. Both of theses commands rely on the > > file you are rebuilding and the files involved are locked during the > > process. You might try pwd_mkdp -d /tmp <> followed by a mv of the > > relevant files into /etc or try pwd_mkdb -u at the time the > > passwd file gets modified and avoid the overhead of the total rebuild. > > YMMV, I haven't used the -d option. > > Joe > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Aug 13 14:39:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from troi.csw.net (troi.csw.net [209.136.192.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B5C315425 for ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 14:39:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lambert@cswnet.com) Received: from ssaos2.csw.net (ssaos2.csw.net [209.136.201.13]) by troi.csw.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA80727 for ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 16:39:21 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from lambert@cswnet.com) Message-Id: <199908132139.QAA80727@troi.csw.net> From: lambert@cswnet.com Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 16:38:57 -0500 To: FreeBSD-ISP@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <00ca01bee5d2$ecf7aca0$fca3f9cf@megared.net.mx> Subject: RE: pwd_mkdb and system processes X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.60 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org man pwd_mkdb In <00ca01bee5d2$ecf7aca0$fca3f9cf@megared.net.mx>, on 08/13/99 at 04:29 PM, "Alejandro Ramirez" said: >Hi, >How do you do it ??? >Ales -- Scott Lambert lambert@cswnet.com Systems and Security Administrator CSW Net, Inc. ================================================================ Written: Friday, August 13, 1999 - 04:38 PM To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Aug 13 18:32:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ms.securenet.net (ms.securenet.net [205.236.147.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C77E014E7C for ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 18:32:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vandj@securenet.net) Received: from office (office.securenet.net [205.236.147.3]) by ms.securenet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA04546 for ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 21:31:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.1.19990813211946.01409cc0@ms.securenet.net> X-Sender: vandj@ms.securenet.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 21:31:11 -0400 To: FreeBSD-ISP@freebsd.org From: "Jean M. Vandette" Subject: NFS server Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Greetings all.... I just finished making up a new system disk to upgrade one of our servers to 3.2-STABLE because we use nfsd I have attempted to set this up on the new disk. On start-up I get the following in the message logs. Aug 13 21:11:50 squid mountd[126]: can't register mount Aug 13 21:11:50 squid nfsd:[129]: can't register tcp with portmap If I start "mountd -r " and "nfsd -u -t -n 4" manually after the system is up no problem it just won't do it automatically at boot... rpc.statd doesn't even try to start. The setup is exactly the same as the 2.2.8-STABLE machine which is working fine. I'm a bit puzzled any ideas where to look or what to try? Please advise John M. Vandette **John M. Vandette, Consultant vandj@securenet.net** **SecureNet Information Services Inc. Internet Providers** **100 Alexis Nihon Blvd #283 St. Laurent, Quebec, Canada** **"Who does BSD Unix....?" "We do Chucky... We do..."** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Aug 13 19:17:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from granite.sentex.net (granite.sentex.ca [199.212.134.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C317614C57 for ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 19:17:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from ospf-wat.sentex.net (ospf-wat.sentex.net [209.167.248.81]) by granite.sentex.net (8.8.8/8.6.9) with SMTP id WAA19469 for ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 22:15:12 -0400 (EDT) From: mike@sentex.net (Mike Tancsa) To: FreeBSD-ISP@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pwd_mkdb and system processes Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 02:27:40 GMT Message-ID: <37b4d14c.830045772@mail.sentex.net> References: <00ca01bee5d2$ecf7aca0$fca3f9cf@megared.net.mx> In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99e/32.227 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 13 Aug 1999 17:41:39 -0400, in sentex.lists.freebsd.isp you wrote: >man pwd_mkdb > > >In <00ca01bee5d2$ecf7aca0$fca3f9cf@megared.net.mx>, on 08/13/99 > at 04:29 PM, "Alejandro Ramirez" said: > >>Hi, > >>How do you do it ??? You can also change the source code so that the default cache size is much bigger. see /usr/src/usr.sbin/pwd_mkdb HASHINFO openinfo = { 4096, /* bsize */ 32, /* ffactor */ 256, /* nelem */ 2048 * 1024, /* cachesize */ NULL, /* hash() */ 0 /* lorder */ }; Change it to something like 2048 * 1024 * 5, /* cachesize */ make depend make make install We use *10 here... ---Mike Mike Tancsa (mdtancsa@sentex.net) Sentex Communications Corp, Waterloo, Ontario, Canada "Who is this 'BSD', and why should we free him?" 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Eduardo. =0D To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Aug 14 5:48:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f177.hotmail.com [216.32.181.177]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CAEE315228 for ; Sat, 14 Aug 1999 05:48:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from a_3shmaoy@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 11490 invoked by uid 0); 14 Aug 1999 12:47:29 -0000 Message-ID: <19990814124729.11489.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.198.248.85 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sat, 14 Aug 1999 05:47:29 PDT X-Originating-IP: [209.198.248.85] From: "3mr M. M. 3shmaoy" To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Squid & MS proxy Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 15:47:29 EEST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've installed Squid on FBSD 2.2.8 and I'm tring to configure it to use MS Proxy as its gateway. Can anybody help. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Aug 14 6:13:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mailhub.ncsa.es (mailhub.ncsa.es [194.179.50.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47F1414C20 for ; Sat, 14 Aug 1999 06:13:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesusr@chuck.jerocu.net) Received: from chuck.jerocu.net (chuck.jerocu.net [194.224.235.59]) by mailhub.ncsa.es (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA10068; Sat, 14 Aug 1999 15:16:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from jesusr@localhost) by chuck.jerocu.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA01146; Sat, 14 Aug 1999 15:14:45 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <19990814124729.11489.qmail@hotmail.com> Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 15:14:45 +0200 (CEST) Reply-To: jesusr@ncsa.es Organization: Nexus Comunicaciones, S.A. From: Jesus Rodriguez To: "3mr M. M. 3shmaoy" Subject: RE: Squid & MS proxy Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 14-Aug-99 3mr M. M. 3shmaoy wrote: > I've installed Squid on FBSD 2.2.8 and I'm tring to configure it to use MS > Proxy as its gateway. Can anybody help. It's explained on squid docs. You have to define MS Proxy like squid's parent, and use port 7 (echo) for icp port. Saludos JesusR. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Aug 14 7:57:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from unix.megared.net.mx (megared.net.mx [207.249.162.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30986150DC for ; Sat, 14 Aug 1999 07:57:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ales@megared.net.mx) Received: from ales (ales.megared.net.mx [207.249.163.252]) by unix.megared.net.mx (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA43148; Sat, 14 Aug 1999 09:57:00 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from ales@megared.net.mx) Message-ID: <001501bee665$4b380340$fca3f9cf@megared.net.mx> From: "Alejandro Ramirez" To: "Mike Tancsa" , References: <00ca01bee5d2$ecf7aca0$fca3f9cf@megared.net.mx> <37b4d14c.830045772@mail.sentex.net> Subject: RE: pwd_mkdb and system processes Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 09:57:13 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Thanks, this is great and permanent, just what I was looking for. Ales ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Tancsa To: Sent: Friday, August 13, 1999 9:27 PM Subject: Re: pwd_mkdb and system processes > On 13 Aug 1999 17:41:39 -0400, in sentex.lists.freebsd.isp you wrote: > > >man pwd_mkdb > > > > > >In <00ca01bee5d2$ecf7aca0$fca3f9cf@megared.net.mx>, on 08/13/99 > > at 04:29 PM, "Alejandro Ramirez" said: > > > >>Hi, > > > >>How do you do it ??? > > > You can also change the source code so that the default cache size is much > bigger. see > /usr/src/usr.sbin/pwd_mkdb > HASHINFO openinfo = { > 4096, /* bsize */ > 32, /* ffactor */ > 256, /* nelem */ > 2048 * 1024, /* cachesize */ > NULL, /* hash() */ > 0 /* lorder */ > }; > > Change it to something like > > 2048 * 1024 * 5, /* cachesize */ > > make depend > make > make install > > We use *10 here... > > ---Mike > Mike Tancsa (mdtancsa@sentex.net) > Sentex Communications Corp, > Waterloo, Ontario, Canada > "Who is this 'BSD', and why should we free him?" > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Aug 14 18:21:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from buffnet4.buffnet.net (buffnet4.buffnet.net [205.246.19.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 632F614D9D for ; Sat, 14 Aug 1999 18:21:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shovey@buffnet.net) Received: from buffnet11.buffnet.net (buffnet11.buffnet.net [205.246.19.55]) by buffnet4.buffnet.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA10525; Sat, 14 Aug 1999 21:19:29 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from shovey@buffnet.net) Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 21:19:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve Hovey To: Alejandro Ramirez Cc: Joe Nall , lambert@cswnet.com, FreeBSD-ISP@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: pwd_mkdb and system processes In-Reply-To: <00ca01bee5d2$ecf7aca0$fca3f9cf@megared.net.mx> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I believe there are command line switches - but just to not have to think or remember too much, I went into the source and did it.. the area where the cache is defined is right at the top of the source file, cant miss it. On Fri, 13 Aug 1999, Alejandro Ramirez wrote: > Hi, > > How do you do it ??? > > Ales > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Steve Hovey > To: Joe Nall > Cc: ; > Sent: Friday, August 13, 1999 11:47 AM > Subject: Re: pwd_mkdb and system processes > > > > > > Or just increase the cache size it uses to it gets done quicker > > > > On Fri, 13 Aug 1999, Joe Nall wrote: > > > > > lambert@cswnet.com wrote: > > > > > > > > I've been trying to track down a problem on my e-mail server where it > > > > stops processing smtp and pop processes for 5 minutes at a time. > > > > > > > > # wc -l /etc/passwd > > > > 14945 /etc/passwd > > > > > > > > We rebuild this file once per hour to add or remove customers. > > > > > > > > I finally caught it with a top session running at the time. > > > > > > > > Inetd was accepting new connections and starting popper but people > can't > > > > authenticate. > > > > Sendmail accepts new connections but they stall until pwd_mkdb goes > away. > > > > When I try to run a command from the command line, it doesn't execute > > > > until pwd_mkdb gets done. > > > > The CPU is 97% idle during this time. > > > > > > > > Does all file access in the system stop while pwd_mkdb runs? > > > No but all password lookups do. Both of theses commands rely on the > > > file you are rebuilding and the files involved are locked during the > > > process. You might try pwd_mkdp -d /tmp <> followed by a mv of the > > > relevant files into /etc or try pwd_mkdb -u at the time the > > > passwd file gets modified and avoid the overhead of the total rebuild. > > > YMMV, I haven't used the -d option. > > > Joe > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message