From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Nov 7 17: 3:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from velvet.sensation.net.au (tunnel0-velvet-brunswick.sensation.net.au [203.20.114.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 851A914C26 for ; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 17:03:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rowan@sensation.net.au) Received: from localhost (rowan@localhost) by velvet.sensation.net.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA19338 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 12:02:58 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from rowan@sensation.net.au) X-Authentication-Warning: velvet.sensation.net.au: rowan owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 12:02:55 +1100 (EST) From: Rowan Crowe To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: sockets stuck in "CLOSING" state: 3.2-RELEASE Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all, I posted a message about this a while ago but I never received a response. I am still having problems with TCP sockets getting stuck in the "CLOSING" state. The machine is now up to 57 such sockets, and this number keeps rising since they never seem to die off. This machine's main function is proxying (Squid). My 2.x machine also running Squid has *zero* sockets stuck in the CLOSING state! Both are running the same version of Squid. I'm wondering if anyone else is seeing this behaviour, particularly only on a 3.x machine... before I upgraded the problem server from 2.2.5-RELEASE to 3.2-RELEASE I'd never seen this problem. Any suggestions (apart from "reboot it" ;-) ) or experiences appreciated. Cheers. -- Rowan Crowe http://www.rowan.sensation.net.au/ Sensation Internet Services http://www.sensation.net.au/ Melbourne, Australia Phone: +61-3-9388-9260 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Nov 7 17:19:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from panzer.kdm.org (panzer.kdm.org [216.160.178.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1DCC14C15 for ; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 17:19:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ken@panzer.kdm.org) Received: (from ken@localhost) by panzer.kdm.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id SAA01954; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 18:19:13 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from ken) Message-Id: <199911080119.SAA01954@panzer.kdm.org> Subject: Re: sockets stuck in "CLOSING" state: 3.2-RELEASE In-Reply-To: from Rowan Crowe at "Nov 8, 1999 12:02:55 pm" To: rowan@sensation.net.au (Rowan Crowe) Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 18:19:13 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Kenneth D. Merry" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=ELM942023953-1841-0_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --ELM942023953-1841-0_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rowan Crowe wrote... > Hi all, > > I posted a message about this a while ago but I never received a response. > > I am still having problems with TCP sockets getting stuck in the "CLOSING" > state. The machine is now up to 57 such sockets, and this number keeps > rising since they never seem to die off. This machine's main function is > proxying (Squid). > > My 2.x machine also running Squid has *zero* sockets stuck in the CLOSING > state! Both are running the same version of Squid. > > I'm wondering if anyone else is seeing this behaviour, particularly only > on a 3.x machine... before I upgraded the problem server from > 2.2.5-RELEASE to 3.2-RELEASE I'd never seen this problem. > > Any suggestions (apart from "reboot it" ;-) ) or experiences appreciated. I had a similar problem just recently with -current. It seems to have been exacerbated by some TCP timer changes in late August, at least in -current. In any case, the attached patch may do the trick. It was checked into -current as rev 1.14 of src/sys/netinet/tcp_fsm.h. I've only been running it a few hours, but I haven't accumulated any sockets stuck in the CLOSING state, and it doesn't seem to have broken anything. (Thanks to Jonathan Lemon for figuring this out.) So, try the patch and see if it helps. Please report back on the success or failure of the patch to the FreeBSD-stable list, and Jonathan Lemon so the patch can get merged to -stable if it does the trick. Ken -- Kenneth Merry ken@kdm.org --ELM942023953-1841-0_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=tcp_fsm.h.diffs.110799 Content-Description: tcp_fsm.h.diffs.110799 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Index: tcp_fsm.h =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/local/cvs/src/sys/netinet/tcp_fsm.h,v retrieving revision 1.13 retrieving revision 1.14 diff -c -r1.13 -r1.14 *** tcp_fsm.h 1999/11/05 14:41:34 1.13 --- tcp_fsm.h 1999/11/07 04:18:30 1.14 *************** *** 31,37 **** * SUCH DAMAGE. * * @(#)tcp_fsm.h 8.1 (Berkeley) 6/10/93 ! * $FreeBSD: src/sys/netinet/tcp_fsm.h,v 1.13 1999/11/05 14:41:34 shin Exp $ */ #ifndef _NETINET_TCP_FSM_H_ --- 31,37 ---- * SUCH DAMAGE. * * @(#)tcp_fsm.h 8.1 (Berkeley) 6/10/93 ! * $FreeBSD: src/sys/netinet/tcp_fsm.h,v 1.14 1999/11/07 04:18:30 jlemon Exp $ */ #ifndef _NETINET_TCP_FSM_H_ *************** *** 92,98 **** TH_ACK, /* 4, ESTABLISHED */ TH_ACK, /* 5, CLOSE_WAIT */ TH_FIN|TH_ACK, /* 6, FIN_WAIT_1 */ ! TH_ACK, /* 7, CLOSING */ TH_FIN|TH_ACK, /* 8, LAST_ACK */ TH_ACK, /* 9, FIN_WAIT_2 */ TH_ACK, /* 10, TIME_WAIT */ --- 92,98 ---- TH_ACK, /* 4, ESTABLISHED */ TH_ACK, /* 5, CLOSE_WAIT */ TH_FIN|TH_ACK, /* 6, FIN_WAIT_1 */ ! TH_FIN|TH_ACK, /* 7, CLOSING */ TH_FIN|TH_ACK, /* 8, LAST_ACK */ TH_ACK, /* 9, FIN_WAIT_2 */ TH_ACK, /* 10, TIME_WAIT */ --ELM942023953-1841-0_-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Nov 7 17:50:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from staff.accessus.net (staff.accessus.net [209.145.151.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BC27150F8 for ; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 17:50:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from doogie@staff.accessus.net) Received: by staff.accessus.net with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 19:50:21 -0600 Message-ID: From: Jason Young To: 'Leif Neland' Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Query pop3-server of progress Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 19:50:20 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01BF298B.9D256F94" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01BF298B.9D256F94 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > -----Original Message----- > From: Leif Neland [mailto:leifn@neland.dk] > Sent: Friday, November 05, 1999 5:46 PM > To: Jason Young > Cc: 'Leif Neland'; freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: RE: Query pop3-server of progress > > > > If you really wanted status info exactly like you described > below, and felt > > like doing a little hacking on qpopper, I'd use > 'setproctitle' to express > > status info. It could show something like this: > > > > # ps -ax > > 77290 ?? Ss 0:17.06 popper: waiting for command (popper) > > 77291 ?? Ss 0:17.06 popper: sending msg 29 (74%) (popper) > > 77292 ?? Ss 0:17.06 popper: updating mailbox (popper) > > > > This doesn't seem to be too difficult. > > However, I haven't had time to upgrade the mailserver from > linux to fbsd > yet, and setproctitle doesn't seem to exist under linux. At least no > manpage is found. > > Does lunix have this, or an equivalent function? > > Leif Well, it's got an equivalent somewhere. One method has been overwriting argv[0], but I'm not sure if that works on Linux (it didn't work on one very simple test I tried). Try downloading a copy of the Sendmail source and seeing how it accomplishes the task. ------_=_NextPart_001_01BF298B.9D256F94 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: Query pop3-server of progress

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Leif Neland [mailto:leifn@neland.dk]
> Sent: Friday, November 05, 1999 5:46 PM
> To: Jason Young
> Cc: 'Leif Neland'; = freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG
> Subject: RE: Query pop3-server of = progress
>
>
> > If you really wanted status info exactly = like you described
> below, and felt
> > like doing a little hacking on qpopper, = I'd use
> 'setproctitle' to express
> > status info. It could show something like = this:
> >
> > # ps -ax
> > 77290  ??  = Ss     0:17.06 popper: waiting for command = (popper)
> > 77291  ??  = Ss     0:17.06 popper: sending msg 29 (74%) = (popper)
> > 77292  ??  = Ss     0:17.06 popper: updating mailbox = (popper)
> >
>
> This doesn't seem to be too difficult.
>
> However, I haven't had time to upgrade the = mailserver from
> linux to fbsd
> yet, and setproctitle doesn't seem to exist = under linux. At least no
> manpage is found.
>
> Does lunix have this, or an equivalent = function?
>
> Leif

Well, it's got an equivalent somewhere. One method = has been overwriting argv[0], but I'm not sure if that works on Linux = (it didn't work on one very simple test I tried). Try downloading a = copy of the Sendmail source and seeing how it accomplishes the = task.

------_=_NextPart_001_01BF298B.9D256F94-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Nov 7 23:43:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from gdr.dhis.org (tm13.hypermax.net.au [203.46.36.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C65691517E for ; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 23:43:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phil@ozxpress.com.au) Received: (from right@localhost) by gdr.dhis.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id QAA05979; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 16:37:37 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from phil@ozxpress.com.au) Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 16:37:37 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <199911080637.QAA05979@gdr.dhis.org> X-Authentication-Warning: raven.gdr.dhis.org: right set sender to phil@ozxpress.com.au using -f From: phil grainger To: freebsd isp Reply-To: phil grainger References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP3 Imap webMail Program 2.0.10 Subject: Re: sockets stuck in "CLOSING" state: 3.2-RELEASE Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Quoting Rowan Crowe : > Hi all, > > I posted a message about this a while ago but I never received a response. > > I am still having problems with TCP sockets getting stuck in the "CLOSING" > state. The machine is now up to 57 such sockets, and this number keeps > rising since they never seem to die off. This machine's main function is > proxying (Squid). i have a similar problem, with a 3.0-RELEASE box ... it runs for about 5 days then it starts to slow down i assume cause it can't find a free data port ?? last time i checked, its ftp speed was down to about 6k a second across ethernet ... strangly enough though proxy speed is unaffected... rebooting is the only way i know how to fix it (every sunday night). runs transparent proxy squid 2.1, mysql3.22.23, icradius 0.1 & apache 1.3.6. i suspect that mysql is the cause, these problems seem worse since i started using mysql. its not really a problem just embarassing as its reliablility is below the average NT box ... at least it reboots reliably phil grainger ozxpress.com.au user support services ----------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through IMP: http://web.horde.org/imp/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Nov 8 4:27:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from sentry.granch.ru (sentry.granch.ru [212.20.5.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C81F014E66 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 04:27:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shelton@sentry.granch.ru) Received: (from shelton@localhost) by sentry.granch.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA28332 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 18:27:19 +0600 (NOVT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 08 Nov 1999 18:27:19 +0600 (NOVT) Organization: Granch Ltd. From: "Rashid N. Achilov" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: How to setup CVS server? Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Now I tried to setup my own CVS server, but failed...:-( Directory structure: /usr/base ! !---- cvsdata ! ! ! !----- src-sys ! !----- sup ! !----- src-sys /usr/base/cvsdata/src-sys is a symbolic link to /usr/share/cvsdata/src-sys, directory with list file from CVS src-sys from cvsup.ru.freebsd.org /usr/base/sup/src-sys contained file "releases" (one line "cvs list=list.cvs prefix=/usr/src/sys") and file "list.cvs" (one line "upgrade /usr/src/sys") cvsupd started with commandline: cvsupd -b /usr/base -l @local6 -e -C 1. When I tried to connect to server, cvsup on client side doesn't make anything, saw "Connect...Finished successfully". When I try start cvsupd with -s key (-s cvsdata), server when process incoming connect say "scan file not found" What's wrong? --- With Best Regards. Rashid N. Achilov (RNA1-RIPE), Cert. ID: 28514, Granch Ltd. lead engineer e-mail: achilov@granch.ru, tel (383-2) 24-2363 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Nov 8 4:31:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from hugin.ipf.net.uk (roxen.ipf.net.uk [62.164.129.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9E5314E66 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 04:31:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from imacdonald@bond.co.uk) Received: from exchangeuk.bond.co.uk (hidden-user@[62.164.195.70]) by hugin.ipf.net.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA07060 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 12:30:57 GMT Received: by exchangeuk.bond.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id <452827T0>; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 12:32:04 -0000 Message-ID: <119A28E471BDD1118EEC00A0245CFD656DFEFC@exchangeuk.bond.co.uk> From: Ian MacDonald To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: natd question. Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 12:32:03 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have a FreeBSD box with 2 nics (xl0, xl1). It is configured as follows: xl0 has address 10.1.1.101/16 and alias 10.1.1.102/16 xl1 has address 192.168.100.253/24 there is a route via a router at 192.168.100.230 to 192.168.1.0/24. The route works fine. Nat is running on xl0 with a redirect_address to 192.168.1.6 from 10.1.1.102. The packets go out to 192.168.1.6 fine but the origin is left as 10.1.1.* and not changed to 192.168.100.253 and as such the destination does not know how to get back. Has anyone got any ideas how I can force natd to change the source ip addr when the source and dest are both reserved IP ranges? Thanks. Ian. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Nov 8 8:49:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from neptune.psn.net (neptune.psn.net [207.211.58.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0013115240 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 08:49:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from will@shadow.blackdawn.com) Received: from 5042-243.008.popsite.net ([209.224.140.243] helo=shadow.blackdawn.com) by neptune.psn.net with esmtp (PSN Internet Service 2.12 #3) id 11krzD-0006dd-00; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 09:49:43 -0700 Received: (from will@localhost) by shadow.blackdawn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA30173; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 11:49:40 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from will) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3.1 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <119A28E471BDD1118EEC00A0245CFD656DFEFC@exchangeuk.bond.co.uk> Date: Mon, 08 Nov 1999 11:49:40 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: Will Andrews From: Will Andrews To: Ian MacDonald Subject: RE: natd question. Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 08-Nov-99 Ian MacDonald wrote: > Has anyone got any ideas how I can force natd to change the source ip addr > when the source and dest are both reserved IP ranges? Perhaps you can try natd -u. -- Will Andrews GCS/E/S @d- s+:+>+:- a--->+++ C++ UB++++ P+ L- E--- W+++ !N !o ?K w--- ?O M+ V-- PS+ PE++ Y+ PGP+>+++ t++ 5 X++ R+ tv+ b++>++++ DI+++ D+ G++>+++ e->++++ h! r-->+++ y? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Nov 8 13:13:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mirage.nlink.com.br (mirage.nlink.com.br [200.249.195.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E27B14C43 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 13:13:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from paulo@nlink.com.br) Received: from localhost (paulo@localhost) by mirage.nlink.com.br (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id TAA03381 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 19:13:49 -0200 (EDT) Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 19:13:48 -0200 (EDT) From: Paulo Fragoso To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Qmail+quota Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, How to config qmail for respect quotas using qmail-local? I had thougth it will work. If qmail-local is runnig with uid and gid correct, why isn't it working? Thanks, Paulo. ------ " ... Overall we've found FreeBSD to excel in performace, stability, technical support, and of course price. Two years after discovering FreeBSD, we have yet to find a reason why we switch to anything else" -David Filo, Yahoo! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Nov 8 16:18:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mirage.nlink.com.br (mirage.nlink.com.br [200.249.195.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D73A152AF for ; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 16:18:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from paulo@nlink.com.br) Received: from localhost (paulo@localhost) by mirage.nlink.com.br (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id WAA10392 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 22:18:29 -0200 (EDT) Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 22:18:29 -0200 (EDT) From: Paulo Fragoso To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Qmail+quota Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I didn't understand, but after few minutes (without restart) qmail is work fine with system quota. Are there any explain to this? Do I do anything wrong? or are there any mistake in qmail with system's quota? Has anyone ever seem same event? Thanks, Paulo. ------ " ... Overall we've found FreeBSD to excel in performace, stability, technical support, and of course price. Two years after discovering FreeBSD, we have yet to find a reason why we switch to anything else" -David Filo, Yahoo! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Nov 8 23:49:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from sentry.granch.ru (sentry.granch.ru [212.20.5.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 001BF14F29 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 23:49:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shelton@sentry.granch.ru) Received: (from shelton@localhost) by sentry.granch.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA32331 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 13:49:35 +0600 (NOVT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 09 Nov 1999 13:49:35 +0600 (NOVT) Organization: Granch Ltd. From: "Rashid N. Achilov" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: wu-ftpd? Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I heard rumors about vulnerability wu-ftpd version 2.5.0... What about that? And now I setup wu-ftpd 2.6.0 and very disappointed...When I logged whit non-anonymous login, when I travel through symbolic link it instead going through show me contents of symlink file :-) What's a strange thing...And this [beep] hangs, when I download under non-anonymous login from one FreeBSD box to other (ssh'ed to one and to two from third box :-) ) --- With Best Regards. Rashid N. Achilov (RNA1-RIPE), Cert. ID: 28514, Granch Ltd. lead engineer e-mail: achilov@granch.ru, tel (383-2) 24-2363 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 9 5:13:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.i-p-d.nl (ns1.i-p-d.nl [208.239.240.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 490E314DA1 for ; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 05:13:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chem@i-p-d.nl) Received: from gina (xs02-074.support.nl [195.114.229.74]) by ns1.i-p-d.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA24291 for ; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 14:04:51 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from chem@i-p-d.nl) Message-Id: <199911091304.OAA24291@ns1.i-p-d.nl> From: "chem@i-p-d.nl" To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 14:16:59 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: logging-problem pop3 Reply-To: chem@i-p-d.nl X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12a) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi! We are running POP before Sendmail-authentication, which runs fine. Its Qpopper 2.53 and sendmail 8.8.8. One of our customers, who has a powermac 8.5 with E-mail oulook express 5.0 15.13 can check his E-mail fine, but doesnt show in my logs. When I try to check his E-mail with my pegasus-mail, my entry shows in the log. No other customer (ca. 2.000 active E-mailadresses on that box) seems to have the problem. Without the log-entry, I cant capture his IP-adress, so he isnt allowed to use the sendmail. Did anyone ever see this, or any suggestions where to look to correct it? Thanks in advance. Gina van Zundert Internet Page Design tel: 0165-571675 fax: 0165-571710 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 9 11: 4:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from awfulhak.org (dynamic-23.max4-du-ws.dialnetwork.pavilion.co.uk [212.74.9.151]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CA5F14EA1 for ; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 11:04:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (root@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org [172.16.0.12]) by awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA07174; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 18:43:56 GMT (envelope-from brian@lan.awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (brian@localhost.lan.Awfulhak.org [127.0.0.1]) by hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA00335; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 07:06:49 GMT (envelope-from brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <199911090706.HAA00335@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.0 09/18/1999 To: Ian MacDonald Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org Subject: Re: natd question. In-Reply-To: Message from Ian MacDonald of "Mon, 08 Nov 1999 12:32:03 GMT." <119A28E471BDD1118EEC00A0245CFD656DFEFC@exchangeuk.bond.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 09 Nov 1999 07:06:49 +0000 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I have a FreeBSD box with 2 nics (xl0, xl1). It is configured as follows: > > xl0 has address 10.1.1.101/16 and alias 10.1.1.102/16 > xl1 has address 192.168.100.253/24 > > there is a route via a router at 192.168.100.230 to 192.168.1.0/24. The > route works fine. Nat is running on xl0 with a redirect_address to > 192.168.1.6 from 10.1.1.102. > The packets go out to 192.168.1.6 fine but the origin is left as 10.1.1.* > and not changed to 192.168.100.253 and as such the destination does not know > how to get back. > > Has anyone got any ideas how I can force natd to change the source ip addr > when the source and dest are both reserved IP ranges? If you want to hide the 10.1/16 network from the 192.168.100/24 network, you should consider 10.1/16 private and 192.168.100/24 public. It's then obvious that you must run natd on xl1 (the public interface). > Thanks. > > Ian. -- Brian Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 9 15: 7: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ady.warpnet.ro (ady.warpnet.ro [194.102.224.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D11DC150CE for ; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 15:06:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ady@warpnet.ro) Received: from localhost (ady@localhost) by ady.warpnet.ro (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA29364 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 01:13:28 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from ady@warpnet.ro) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 01:13:27 +0200 (EET) From: Adrian Penisoara To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Mail-news gateway ? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I'd like to know what other people recommend as mail-news gateway solutions ? This will be used to replicate external mailing list postings to local mailing lists and newsgroups. I was thinking about using innd & majordomo, are there other packages better suited for this job ? Any documentation or reference readings on this subject ? Thanks a lot, Ady (@warpnet.ro) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 9 15: 9:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from chain.freebsd.os.org.za (chain.freebsd.os.org.za [196.7.162.242]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B14F1150CE for ; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 15:09:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from khetan@chain.freebsd.os.org.za) X-Disclaimer: Contents of this e-mail are the writer's opinion X-Disclaimer2: and may not be quoted, re-produced or forwarded X-Disclaimer3: (in part or whole) without the author's permission. Received: from localhost (khetan@localhost) by chain.freebsd.os.org.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA43874; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 01:09:06 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from khetan@chain.freebsd.os.org.za) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 01:09:06 +0200 (SAST) From: Khetan Gajjar Reply-To: Khetan Gajjar To: Adrian Penisoara Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Mail-news gateway ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-Mobile: +27 82 9907663 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Around Today, "Adrian Penisoara" wrote : AP> I was thinking about using innd & majordomo, are there other packages AP> better suited for this job ? Any documentation or reference readings on AP> this subject ? I made use of DNews a while ago; it was quite easy, but it is commercial software. It's in the ports tree (/usr/ports/news/dnews). --- Khetan Gajjar (!kg1779) * khetan@os.org.za http://khetan.os.org.za/ * Talk/Finger khetan@khetan.os.org.za FreeBSD enthusiast * http://www2.za.freebsd.org/ /dev/random output : "I am Beavis of Borg. Resistance, like uh... sucks !" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 10 4: 9:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from hugin.ipf.net.uk (roxy.ipf.net.uk [62.164.129.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44D8C14E1F for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 04:09:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from imacdonald@bond.co.uk) Received: from exchangeuk.bond.co.uk (hidden-user@[62.164.195.70]) by hugin.ipf.net.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA18982 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 12:09:26 GMT Received: by exchangeuk.bond.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id <4528297J>; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 12:10:38 -0000 Message-ID: <119A28E471BDD1118EEC00A0245CFD656DFF83@exchangeuk.bond.co.uk> From: Ian MacDonald To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: RE: natd question. Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 12:10:27 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org What I need to be able to do is create a an IP address in the 10.1 network that will represent the 192.168.1.6 server so that users only need to know about the 10.1.?.? server. This is because we already have a 192.168.1.0 network on our main network so it is not possible to directly connect it to ours, hence natd. If I turn natd round the redirect_address does not appear to work anymore. > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian Somers [SMTP:brian@Awfulhak.org] > Sent: 09 November 1999 07:07 > To: Ian MacDonald > Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG; brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org > Subject: Re: natd question. > > > I have a FreeBSD box with 2 nics (xl0, xl1). It is configured as > follows: > > > > xl0 has address 10.1.1.101/16 and alias 10.1.1.102/16 > > xl1 has address 192.168.100.253/24 > > > > there is a route via a router at 192.168.100.230 to 192.168.1.0/24. The > > route works fine. Nat is running on xl0 with a redirect_address to > > 192.168.1.6 from 10.1.1.102. > > The packets go out to 192.168.1.6 fine but the origin is left as > 10.1.1.* > > and not changed to 192.168.100.253 and as such the destination does not > know > > how to get back. > > > > Has anyone got any ideas how I can force natd to change the source ip > addr > > when the source and dest are both reserved IP ranges? > > If you want to hide the 10.1/16 network from the 192.168.100/24 > network, you should consider 10.1/16 private and 192.168.100/24 > public. It's then obvious that you must run natd on xl1 (the public > interface). > > > Thanks. > > > > Ian. > > -- > Brian > > Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 10 5:57: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from apache.vineyard.net (PRIMARY.VINEYARD.NET [199.232.92.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40C1B14DD4 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 05:57:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ericx@apache.vineyard.net) Received: (from ericx@localhost) by apache.vineyard.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) id IAA03478; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 08:57:00 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199911101357.IAA03478@apache.vineyard.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: where to get hardware X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under Emacs 19.34.1 Reply-To: "Eric W. Bates" From: "Eric W. Bates" X-Work: Vineyard.NET, Inc., Box 4249, Vineyard Haven, MA 02568-4249 X-Phone: 508/696-6688 X-Fax: 508/696-8989 Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 08:57:00 -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org My favorite little VAR down the street cannot find me 3-button mice (more signs of MS dominance). He checked Ingram Micro and a few other places. Anyone got a source? I've never tried, but can one use the wheel as a middle button on such mice? -- Eric W. Bates To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 10 7: 9: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from dfw-smtpin1.email.verio.net (dfw-smtpin1.email.verio.net [129.250.36.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02D0A14E1F for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 07:08:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bill@bilver.magicnet.net) Received: from bilver.magicnet.net ([157.238.16.49]) by dfw-smtpin1.email.verio.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.05) with ESMTP id FKZM2V00.E1M for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 15:08:55 +0000 Received: (from bill@localhost) by bilver.magicnet.net (8.9.2/8.9.1) id KAA40138 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 10:04:17 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 10:04:17 -0500 From: Bill Vermillion To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: where to get hardware Message-ID: <19991110100417.A40033@bilver.magicnet.net> References: <199911101357.IAA03478@apache.vineyard.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre1i In-Reply-To: <199911101357.IAA03478@apache.vineyard.net> Organization: Vermillion Consulting Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Nov 10, 1999 at 08:57:00AM -0500, Thus Spake Eric W. Bates: > My favorite little VAR down the street cannot find me 3-button mice > (more signs of MS dominance). He checked Ingram Micro and a few other > places. Someone doesn't know how to look at either the VAR or the distributor. Go to www.logitech.com and you will see the First Mouse 3 Button Mouse. You can grab a link and if you wish you can follow their links to either dealers/distributors or online-resellers. [the latter includes their own on-line store] Bill -- Bill Vermillion bv @ wjv.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 10 9:36:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from bsdie.rwsystems.net (bsdie.rwsystems.net [209.197.223.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC19D15219 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 09:36:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jwyatt@rwsystems.net) Received: from bsdie.rwsystems.net([209.197.223.2]) (1290 bytes) by bsdie.rwsystems.net via sendmail with P:esmtp/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) id for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 11:33:46 -0600 (CST) (Smail-3.2.0.106 1999-Mar-31 #1 built 1999-Aug-7) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 11:33:45 -0600 (CST) From: James Wyatt To: "Eric W. Bates" Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: where to get hardware In-Reply-To: <199911101357.IAA03478@apache.vineyard.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 10 Nov 1999, Eric W. Bates wrote: > My favorite little VAR down the street cannot find me 3-button mice > (more signs of MS dominance). He checked Ingram Micro and a few other > places. > > Anyone got a source? I've never tried, but can one use the wheel as a > middle button on such mice? Wow, gotta love it... The middle button on a uSoft intellimouse can act as a third button when clicked, IIRC. I thought XFree86 even had some kind of support for the wheel movement. Logitech makes most of the ones I use, though. The IBM RS/6000s come with them, but they have longer cords. If you don't mind serial mice, I'll bet you can find a number of used Logitech C7 mice and those used to work fine w/XFree86. - Jy@ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 10 9:40: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from bogon.kjsl.com (bogon.kjsl.com [206.55.236.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20F4B1527A for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 09:39:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from javier@bogon.kjsl.com) Received: (from javier@localhost) by bogon.kjsl.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA14560; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 09:39:33 -0800 (PST) From: Javier Henderson MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14377.44501.661696.939706@bogon.kjsl.com> Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 09:39:33 -0800 (PST) To: James Wyatt Cc: "Eric W. Bates" , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: where to get hardware X-Mailer: VM 6.63 under Emacs 19.34.1 X-Airplane-of-the-day: Grumman Tiger Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > My favorite little VAR down the street cannot find me 3-button mice > (more signs of MS dominance). He checked Ingram Micro and a few other > places. > > Anyone got a source? I've never tried, but can one use the wheel as a > middle button on such mice? Office Depot had several three button mice, some for about 10 bucks, both in serial and ps/2 versions. I was there just last week. -jav To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 10 12:17:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns-1.macromedia.com (ns-1.macromedia.com [207.88.220.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BF1714D4E for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 12:17:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rrucker@macromedia.com) Received: from ns-2.macromedia.com (ns-2.macromedia.com [207.88.156.10]) by ns-1.macromedia.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA06111 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 12:17:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from macromedia.com (rrucker-pc.macromedia.com [192.168.40.118]) by ns-2.macromedia.com (8.9.1a/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA09551 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 12:17:04 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3829D437.F2F41176@macromedia.com> Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 12:23:19 -0800 From: Rudy X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: time estimates for 3.2 -> 3.3 upgrade Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, freebsd-isp'ers. I run a small ISP on freebsd. I've just got another box (k6-2 400 Mhz/128 Mb Ram) and installed 3.2, now I am upgrading to 3.3. Nowhere in the documentation are there time estimates for an upgrade or each step. To totally rebuild a system with a custom kernal, I completed the following steps in a little over 2 hours: # cd /usr/src # cp /usr/share/examples/cvsup/stable-supfile . # vi stable-supfile (set the cvsup host and commented out 'src-kerberosIV') # cvsup stable-supfile 30 minutes (depends on your connection ~ mine is a 768/384 DSL) # make world 1.6 hours # rm -rf /usr/src/sys/compile/MYKERNAL # cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf # config MYKERNEL 1 second # cd ../../compile/MYKERNEL # make depend 24 seconds # make 172 seconds # make install 1 second # reboot 72 seconds My upgrade was a total success! When I started this email, I'd only done the cvsup step, but now I am running FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE! Rudy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Nov 11 18: 2:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from kermit.empireone.net (kermit.empireone.net [207.111.39.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D17A314A12 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 18:02:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jrsysadmin@empireone.net) Received: from dragonlord (webmaster.empireone.net [209.118.194.233]) by kermit.empireone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAA21756 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 21:02:44 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <012301bf2cc9$58ac51c0$e9c276d1@empireone.net> From: "James" To: References: <3829D437.F2F41176@macromedia.com> Subject: windows nt Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 20:49:44 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Looking for a list for n/t 4.0. Do ya'll know any good ones for and isp admin? Thank you JaMes RufFeR III Jr. Sys. Admin. EmpireOne 453-1111 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Nov 12 6:59:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from richard2.pil.net (richard2.pil.net [207.8.164.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0C53F14E9D for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 06:59:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from up@3.am) Received: (qmail 76602 invoked by uid 1825); 12 Nov 1999 14:58:59 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 12 Nov 1999 14:58:59 -0000 Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 09:58:59 -0500 (EST) From: X-Sender: up@richard2.pil.net To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: resources needed for tin Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I put my first FreeBSD server into production a few days ago, and so far, I'm very pleased/impressed with the way it's performing compared to our old Solaris Sparcs. However, I'm having a little difficulty figuring out how much resources to allocate shell users in /etc/login.conf. I just installed tin, but when a "users" class user tries to run it, they get: Reading input history file... Reading groups from active file...-ltin: memory exhausted trying to allocate 3321288 bytes in file ././memory.c line 108 In /etc/login.conf, I appear to have ample memory allocated: users:\ :cputime=infinity:\ :datasize-cur=16M:\ :datasize-max=16M:\ :stacksize-cur=12M:\ :stacksize-max=12M:\ :memorylocked=16M:\ :memoryuse=24M:\ :filesize=10M:\ :coredumpsize=8M:\ :maxproc=16:\ :openfiles=64:\ :priority=20:\ :requirehome@:\ :umask=022:\ I must be missing something, because root can run it with no problem... ?? TIA, James Smallacombe PlantageNet, Inc. CEO and Janitor up@3.am http://3.am ========================================================================= ISPF 3 - The Forum for ISPs by ISPs(tm) || Nov 15-17, 1999, New Orleans 3 days of clues, news, and views from the industry's best and brightest. Visit for information and registration. ========================================================================= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Nov 12 10:11: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from richard2.pil.net (richard2.pil.net [207.8.164.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 642E315016 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 10:10:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from up@3.am) Received: (qmail 38462 invoked by uid 1825); 12 Nov 1999 18:10:29 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 12 Nov 1999 18:10:29 -0000 Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 13:10:29 -0500 (EST) From: X-Sender: up@richard2.pil.net To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: resources needed for tin In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org never mind, I forgot to run "cap_mkdb /etc/login.conf" after upping the limits...doh! On Fri, 12 Nov 1999 up@3.am wrote: > > I put my first FreeBSD server into production a few days ago, and so far, > I'm very pleased/impressed with the way it's performing compared to our > old Solaris Sparcs. > > However, I'm having a little difficulty figuring out how much resources to > allocate shell users in /etc/login.conf. I just installed tin, but when a > "users" class user tries to run it, they get: > > Reading input history file... > Reading groups from active file...-ltin: memory exhausted trying to > allocate 3321288 bytes in file ././memory.c line 108 > > In /etc/login.conf, I appear to have ample memory allocated: > > users:\ > :cputime=infinity:\ > :datasize-cur=16M:\ > :datasize-max=16M:\ > :stacksize-cur=12M:\ > :stacksize-max=12M:\ > :memorylocked=16M:\ > :memoryuse=24M:\ > :filesize=10M:\ > :coredumpsize=8M:\ > :maxproc=16:\ > :openfiles=64:\ > :priority=20:\ > :requirehome@:\ > :umask=022:\ > > I must be missing something, because root can run it with no problem... > > ?? > > TIA, > > James Smallacombe PlantageNet, Inc. CEO and Janitor > up@3.am http://3.am > ========================================================================= > ISPF 3 - The Forum for ISPs by ISPs(tm) || Nov 15-17, 1999, New Orleans > 3 days of clues, news, and views from the industry's best and brightest. > Visit for information and registration. > ========================================================================= > > James Smallacombe PlantageNet, Inc. CEO and Janitor up@3.am http://3.am ========================================================================= ISPF 3 - The Forum for ISPs by ISPs(tm) || Nov 15-17, 1999, New Orleans 3 days of clues, news, and views from the industry's best and brightest. Visit for information and registration. ========================================================================= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Nov 12 13:15:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns-1.macromedia.com (ns-1.macromedia.com [207.88.220.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2223714DF8 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 13:15:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rrucker@macromedia.com) Received: from ns-2.macromedia.com (ns-2.macromedia.com [207.88.156.10]) by ns-1.macromedia.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA16964 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 13:15:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from macromedia.com (rrucker-pc.macromedia.com [192.168.40.118]) by ns-2.macromedia.com (8.9.1a/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA15395 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 13:15:15 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <382C84DC.3AA355DB@macromedia.com> Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 13:21:32 -0800 From: Rudy X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: scp locks up kernal in 3.3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hmmm... I have two freeBSD boxes: 2.2.7 and 3.3 (upgraded from 3.2) When I try to scp or rsync between the boxes, the 3.3 computer freezes up. The keyboard locks up, as well as everything else. The only response I can get is if I hit the 'PrtScn' button (I found out after massaging the keyboard) which says something like 'Sorry no debugger in kernal'. Here is my question: what do I have to do to get my 3.3 system to scp? (ssh2 installed on the 3.3 box, and ssh1 on the 2.2.7 box. If I initiate the scp or rsync from either box, the 3.3 box will lock up.) Rudy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Nov 12 13:23:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from sneakerz.org (sneakerz.org [208.176.135.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C424414F77 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 13:23:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dave@sneakerz.org) Received: (qmail 34853 invoked by uid 1004); 12 Nov 1999 21:16:24 -0000 Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 13:16:24 -0800 From: Dave McKay To: Rudy Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: scp locks up kernal in 3.3 Message-ID: <19991112131624.A34841@sneakerz.org> References: <382C84DC.3AA355DB@macromedia.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <382C84DC.3AA355DB@macromedia.com>; from Rudy on Fri, Nov 12, 1999 at 01:21:32PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > When I try to scp or rsync between the boxes, the 3.3 computer freezes up. The keyboard locks up, as well as everything else. The only response I can get is if I hit the 'PrtScn' button (I found out after massaging the keyboard) which says something like 'Sorry no debugger in kernal'. Your first priority is to find out why this is happening. Turn on debugging in your kernel and you might even want to config -g it as well. When the machine locks up, (after you've placed a debugger in your kernel), hit alt+ctl+esc to drop into the debugger and backtrace the problem. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dave McKay dave@sneakerz.org MSN Hotmail http://www.hotmail.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Nov 12 18:48:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc1.il.home.com (ha1.rdc1.il.home.com [24.2.1.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 108B014ECF for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 18:48:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jackwenger@home.com) Received: from elmer ([24.8.90.63]) by mail.rdc1.il.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with SMTP id <19991113024822.OZGG27957.mail.rdc1.il.home.com@elmer>; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 18:48:22 -0800 From: "Jack Wenger" To: "Stark Lori A." Subject: New Music Out! Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 20:50:57 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I added 2 more songs to my bands website: http://www.mp3.com/moderation Please le me know what you think! Jack Wenger "There are two things which are truly universal: hydrogen and stupidity." -- Frank Zappa webmaster: http://amazing.divingdeals.com Rock N Roll! http://www.mp3.com/moderation Check it out!! jackwenger@home.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Nov 13 2:55:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from arnold.neland.dk (mail.neland.dk [194.255.12.232]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB89615133 for ; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 02:55:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from leif@neland.dk) Received: from gina (gina.neland.dk [192.168.0.14]) by arnold.neland.dk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA39281 for ; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 11:55:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from leif@neland.dk) Message-ID: <009c01bf2dc5$ad750d80$0e00a8c0@neland.dk> From: "Leif Neland" To: Subject: wasting ip's on dedicated lines Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 11:55:13 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org We're going to connect several sites througg dedicated lines: Our site | =20 router 100.100.100.1/24 (cisco 2600, channelized E1 (soon)) modem | telco lines modem router 100.100.101.1/30 (cisco 1005) | =20 Fbsd firewall/proxy outside 100.100.101.2/30 | inside 192.168.0.1/30 =20 This means I'll use 4 ip's for each remote site on the cable between = router and firewall:=20 100.100.101.0: network 100.100.101.1: cisco 100.100.101.2: firewall 100.100.101.3: broadcast Next site will use 100.100.101.4 to 100.100.101.7 This seems rather wastefull. Can this be avoided? I could use Sangoma cards in the firewall, I guess. BTW, Does somebody sell cheap cisco's on the net? Leif =20 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Nov 13 4:56: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from cliff.i-plus.net (cliff.i-plus.net [209.100.20.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B49E2150FE for ; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 04:56:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from st@i-plus.net) Received: from abyss (gunk.i-plus.net [209.100.22.250]) by cliff.i-plus.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id HAA66444; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 07:55:56 -0500 (EST) From: "Troy Settle" To: "Leif Neland" , Subject: RE: wasting ip's on dedicated lines Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 07:55:42 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <009c01bf2dc5$ad750d80$0e00a8c0@neland.dk> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Lief, You can run your connections unnumbered, but this can make it difficult to troubleshoot some problems. Alternatively, you can use public address space (10.*.*.*) for your PtP connections. This will let everything work normally as far as your internal stuff goes. The only side affect would be a strange looking traceroute for people outside your network. If you look around, you'll find that most people do use the /30 for their PtP connections. It's actually considered 100% usage of your IP space, and nobody is going to fault you for doing it or ask you to recover that space before allocation of additional space. -Troy > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Leif Neland > Sent: Saturday, November 13, 1999 5:55 AM > To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: wasting ip's on dedicated lines > > > We're going to connect several sites througg dedicated lines: > > Our site > | > router 100.100.100.1/24 (cisco 2600, channelized E1 (soon)) > modem > | telco lines > modem > router 100.100.101.1/30 (cisco 1005) > | > Fbsd firewall/proxy outside 100.100.101.2/30 > | inside 192.168.0.1/30 > > > This means I'll use 4 ip's for each remote site on the cable > between router and firewall: > 100.100.101.0: network > 100.100.101.1: cisco > 100.100.101.2: firewall > 100.100.101.3: broadcast > > Next site will use 100.100.101.4 to 100.100.101.7 > > This seems rather wastefull. > > Can this be avoided? I could use Sangoma cards in the firewall, I guess. > > BTW, Does somebody sell cheap cisco's on the net? > > Leif > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Nov 13 5: 7:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from smtp3.free.fr (smtp3.free.fr [212.27.32.72]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6E07150FE for ; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 05:07:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from m.hallgren@free.fr) Received: from roam (paris11-nas4-46-152.dial.proxad.net [212.27.46.152]) by smtp3.free.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id OAA01372 for ; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 14:07:21 +0100 Message-ID: <011e01bf2dd7$a8455d80$39f9fea9@roam> From: "Michael Hallgren" To: References: Subject: Re: wasting ip's on dedicated lines Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 14:04:42 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Lief, > > You can run your connections unnumbered, but this can make it difficult to > troubleshoot some problems. > > Alternatively, you can use public address space (10.*.*.*) for your PtP > connections. This will let everything work normally as far as your internal > stuff goes. The only side affect would be a strange looking traceroute for > people outside your network. And is potentially harful to path_mtu discovery. mh > > If you look around, you'll find that most people do use the /30 for their > PtP connections. It's actually considered 100% usage of your IP space, and > nobody is going to fault you for doing it or ask you to recover that space > before allocation of additional space. > > -Troy > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Leif Neland > > Sent: Saturday, November 13, 1999 5:55 AM > > To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > > Subject: wasting ip's on dedicated lines > > > > > > We're going to connect several sites througg dedicated lines: > > > > Our site > > | > > router 100.100.100.1/24 (cisco 2600, channelized E1 (soon)) > > modem > > | telco lines > > modem > > router 100.100.101.1/30 (cisco 1005) > > | > > Fbsd firewall/proxy outside 100.100.101.2/30 > > | inside 192.168.0.1/30 > > > > > > This means I'll use 4 ip's for each remote site on the cable > > between router and firewall: > > 100.100.101.0: network > > 100.100.101.1: cisco > > 100.100.101.2: firewall > > 100.100.101.3: broadcast > > > > Next site will use 100.100.101.4 to 100.100.101.7 > > > > This seems rather wastefull. > > > > Can this be avoided? I could use Sangoma cards in the firewall, I guess. > > > > BTW, Does somebody sell cheap cisco's on the net? > > > > Leif > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Nov 13 5: 9:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from dfw-smtpin1.email.verio.net (dfw-smtpin1.email.verio.net [129.250.36.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13AF9150FE for ; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 05:09:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bill@bilver.magicnet.net) Received: from bilver.magicnet.net ([157.238.16.49]) by dfw-smtpin1.email.verio.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.05) with ESMTP id FL50J400.2A1 for ; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 13:09:04 +0000 Received: (from bill@localhost) by bilver.magicnet.net (8.9.2/8.9.1) id IAA72501 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 08:04:41 -0500 (EST) From: Bill Vermillion Message-Id: <199911131304.IAA72501@bilver.magicnet.net> Subject: Re: Wasting IP's on dedicated lines To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 08:04:41 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Nov 13, 1999 at 11:55:13AM +0100, Thus Spake Leif Neland: > We're going to connect several sites througg dedicated lines: > Our site > | > router 100.100.100.1/24 (cisco 2600, channelized E1 (soon)) > modem > | telco lines > modem > router 100.100.101.1/30 (cisco 1005) > | > Fbsd firewall/proxy outside 100.100.101.2/30 > | inside 192.168.0.1/30 > > > This means I'll use 4 ip's for each remote site on the cable between router and firewall: > 100.100.101.0: network > 100.100.101.1: cisco > 100.100.101.2: firewall > 100.100.101.3: broadcast > Next site will use 100.100.101.4 to 100.100.101.7 > This seems rather wastefull. It may be wasteful, but in my view it's almost mandatory if you want to have control. You could run un-numbered on the serial interfaces, and then the only IP's would be on the ethernet. Here's on reason why you want to use the IP's. If at the far side someone disconnects the ethernet cable/hub, you won't be able to telnet to the IP. However by having the serial ports numbered you could telnet to that port and diagnose the problem if the problem was on the ethernet side. Just one more tool for trouble-shooting. I'm really glad I have it. Currently I have 11 T1s outgoing this way. > BTW, Does somebody sell cheap cisco's on the net? Don't know about on the net, but you can get the phone number/address from www.networkhardware.com. We'be bought at six 2501's from him. Many Adtrans. Ascend Max4004. Good prices. Everything just as specified Bill -- Bill Vermillion bv @ wjv.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Nov 13 12: 0:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC5B614E57 for ; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 12:00:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from julian@whistle.com) Received: from current1.whiste.com (current1.whistle.com [207.76.205.22]) by alpo.whistle.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA47006; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 11:52:34 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 11:52:33 -0800 (PST) From: Julian Elischer To: Troy Settle Cc: Leif Neland , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: wasting ip's on dedicated lines In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 13 Nov 1999, Troy Settle wrote: > > Lief, > > You can run your connections unnumbered, but this can make it difficult to > troubleshoot some problems. > > Alternatively, you can use public address space (10.*.*.*) for your PtP > connections. This will let everything work normally as far as your internal > stuff goes. The only side affect would be a strange looking traceroute for > people outside your network. > > If you look around, you'll find that most people do use the /30 for their > PtP connections. It's actually considered 100% usage of your IP space, and > nobody is going to fault you for doing it or ask you to recover that space > before allocation of additional space. > > -Troy There is no such thing as a netmask for p2p links. Nor is there any need for them to have any relationship between the near end and the far end address. If you used the siemens 'Munich' board (a-la PHK) or a sync card (e.g. if_sr.c or if_ar.c) and frame relay, you could do the following: (cheaper too) [your site] (FreeBSD-current) (one IP address, taken from your LAN range) | | (telco line) [telco frame relay or normal switch] | | [remote site] [remote site] Freebsd box (-current) (1 local IP address) (1 local IP address) where on each side the IP address used is taken from the LAN side addresses. (PtP links don't need unique addresses only unique REMOTE addresses. In fact We use the same local ddresson our P2P links as that machine uses on it's own LAN interface.. thus ifconfig returns the same address on all interfaces but differnt addresses on the remote ends. Also the same address on the ehternet interface. X.X.X.1(ether)[ FBSD ](wan1)X.X.X.1------X.X.A.1(wan)[FBSD](ether)X.X.A.1 [......](wan1)X.X.X.1------X.X.B.1(wan)[FBSD](ether)X.X.B.1 [......](wan1)X.X.X.1------X.X.C.1(wan)[FBSD](ether)X.X.C.1 [......](wan1)X.X.X.1------X.X.D.1(wan)[FBSD](ether)X.X.D.1 You may even be able to set up the Cisco like this but I don't know for sure. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Leif Neland > > Sent: Saturday, November 13, 1999 5:55 AM > > To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > > Subject: wasting ip's on dedicated lines > > > > > > We're going to connect several sites througg dedicated lines: > > > > Our site > > | > > router 100.100.100.1/24 (cisco 2600, channelized E1 (soon)) > > modem > > | telco lines > > modem > > router 100.100.101.1/30 (cisco 1005) > > | > > Fbsd firewall/proxy outside 100.100.101.2/30 > > | inside 192.168.0.1/30 > > > > > > This means I'll use 4 ip's for each remote site on the cable > > between router and firewall: > > 100.100.101.0: network > > 100.100.101.1: cisco > > 100.100.101.2: firewall > > 100.100.101.3: broadcast > > > > Next site will use 100.100.101.4 to 100.100.101.7 > > > > This seems rather wastefull. > > > > Can this be avoided? I could use Sangoma cards in the firewall, I guess. > > > > BTW, Does somebody sell cheap cisco's on the net? > > no but chepp PCs can be got .. and you use ) ip addresses for the links > > Leif > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Nov 13 19:26:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.westbend.net (ns1.westbend.net [209.224.254.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9C161519F for ; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 19:26:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hetzels@westbend.net) Received: from admin (admin.westbend.net [209.224.254.141]) by mail.westbend.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA24851; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 21:26:36 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from hetzels@westbend.net) Message-ID: <001f01bf2e50$1114cb20$8dfee0d1@westbend.net> From: "Scot W. Hetzel" To: "Paul Stewart (Premier Networks)" Cc: , References: <199911051304.NAA04600@post.mail.areti.net>; from Nicholas J. Dear on Fri, Nov 05, 1999 at 01:00:02PM -0000 <199911051325.NAA05797@post.mail.areti.net> <031501bf27ed$e65c3c00$8dfee0d1@westbend.net> <3826E4CB.9CB10689@premier-networks.com> Subject: Re: FP200 extensions. Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 21:26:36 -0600 Organization: West Bend Internet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org From: "Paul Stewart (Premier Networks)" > Do we know when this port will be available in the ports collection or > is there a place it can be downloaded from now? :) > I put in a new PR today (14866), and made the port available for ftp download. ftp://www.westbend.net/pub/apache-fp/port/apache13-fp.tar.gz ftp://www.westbend.net/pub/apache-fp/port/apache13-fp-modssl.tar.gz Scot To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message