From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Jul 4 6:58:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from wireless.net (wireless.net [207.137.156.159]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FC7714C36; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 06:58:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bad@uhf.wireless.net) Received: from uhf.wireless.net (uhf.wireless.net [209.75.70.121]) by wireless.net (8.8.7/8.8.4) with ESMTP id HAA15786; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 07:12:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (bad@localhost) by uhf.wireless.net (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA00801; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 09:59:08 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bad@uhf.wireless.net) Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1999 09:59:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Bernie Doehner To: Randall Hopper Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RealPlayer G2 for Linux (6.0-0.99051701) In-Reply-To: <19990702182620.A9199@ipass.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thanks for letting us know. I just tried installing it on my 3.2-R box, and I keep getting signal 11 core dumps, pretty much at startup. I am using libstdc++.so.2.8 out of ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/distributions/slackware/slakware/a4/elflibs.tgz Perhaps we are using different incantations of libstdc++.so.2.8? Or there are some other variations between my Linux libs and yours that are affecting me. Would you mind checksuming your libstdc++.so.2.8? My md5 checksum is: MD5 (libstdc++.so.2.8) = 4dc8074d9bdb727616185c47d7af7cbe Thanks. Bernie On Fri, 2 Jul 1999, Randall Hopper wrote: > Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 18:26:20 -0400 > From: Randall Hopper > To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, emulation@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: RealPlayer G2 for Linux (6.0-0.99051701) > > http://www.real.com/products/player/linux.html > > FWIW, it works pretty well here on 3.2-RELEASE with Voxware. You'll just > need to grab /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.2.8 from a Linux box somewhere. That's > missing from the 3.2-R linuxlib. > > For example at http://www.sagabegins.com/: > > http://ramhurl.real.com/smildemohurl.ram?file=g2audio/jive/wierd_al/wierdal_starwars.rm > > needs 6.0-G2. > > One oddity though. The frame rate starts out nicely (10-15 fps), but gets > slower and slower as it goes on (down to many seconds per frame). May be > the web server, net latency, socket blocking, or who knows. The audio is > fine though all the way through. No breaks or studders at all. Just the > video has problems. > > BTW, 233MMX and 56K modem here, so horsepower isn't a problem. > > Randall > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Jul 4 8: 3:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from pluto.ipass.net (pluto.ipass.net [198.79.53.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23CC114D22; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 08:03:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ipass.net) Received: from stealth.ipass.net. (ppp-6-243.dialup.rdu.ipass.net [209.170.134.243]) by pluto.ipass.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA01851; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 11:03:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.ipass.net. (8.9.3/8.8.8) id LAA15489; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 11:05:48 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rhh) Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1999 11:05:48 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Bernie Doehner Cc: Marcel Moolenaar , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RealPlayer G2 for Linux (6.0-0.99051701) Message-ID: <19990704110548.A15133@ipass.net> References: <19990702182620.A9199@ipass.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Bernie Doehner on Sun, Jul 04, 1999 at 09:59:07AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Bernie Doehner: |Randall Hopper: |> http://www.real.com/products/player/linux.html |> |> FWIW, it works pretty well here on 3.2-RELEASE with Voxware. You'll just |> need to grab /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.2.8 from a Linux box somewhere. That's |> missing from the 3.2-R linuxlib. | |I just tried installing it on my 3.2-R box, and I keep getting signal 11 |core dumps, pretty much at startup. | |I am using libstdc++.so.2.8 out of |ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/distributions/slackware/slakware/a4/elflibs.tgz | |Perhaps we are using different incantations of libstdc++.so.2.8? Or there |are some other variations between my Linux libs and yours that are |affecting me. (Ccing marcel@scc.nl since this is linux_lib-related. BTW, welcome on-board Marcel!) Could be. I pulled the Redhat rpm from real.com, so I yanked libstdc++.so.2.8 off a Redhat 5.2 box. |Would you mind checksuming your libstdc++.so.2.8? |My md5 checksum is: |MD5 (libstdc++.so.2.8) = 4dc8074d9bdb727616185c47d7af7cbe |Thanks. I was sure they wouldn't be the same -- different Linuxes, separate distribution builds -- but here it is: MD5 (/compat/linux/usr/lib/libstdc++.so.2.8) = 392fa83af30f9535d8311e7e76bffcfc The redhat .so may be lying around on ftp.redhat.com. Or you can just grab it from here: http://www.ipass.net/~dbhopper/aa8vb/TMP/libstdc++.so.2.8.gz Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Jul 4 11:51:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from out.gcn.net.tw (out.gcn.net.tw [203.77.2.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF34A14CD3; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 11:51:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from keith@gcn.net.tw) Received: from phantom (host151.2106233.gcn.net.tw [210.62.33.151]) by out.gcn.net.tw (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA92860; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 18:51:07 GMT Received: (from keith@localhost) by phantom (8.9.3/8.9.1) id CAA00424; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 02:50:55 +0800 (CST) (envelope-from keith) Message-ID: <19990705025055.C332@keith.home> Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 02:50:55 +0800 From: Keith To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RealPlayer G2 for Linux (6.0-0.99051701) Reply-To: jtjang@gcn.net.tw References: <19990702182620.A9199@ipass.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: ; from Bernie Doehner on Sun, Jul 04, 1999 at 09:59:07AM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD phantom 4.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 07/04/99, Bernie Doehner wrote: > I just tried installing it on my 3.2-R box, and I keep getting signal 11 > core dumps, pretty much at startup. It seems that G2 for Linux has to be installed & run with root privilege. -- Make it clear and strong. jtjang@gcn.net.tw To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Jul 4 12:56:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from bubba.whistle.com (s205m7.whistle.com [207.76.205.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B589A14CAE for ; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 12:56:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from archie@whistle.com) Received: (from archie@localhost) by bubba.whistle.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) id MAA16743 for freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 12:56:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Archie Cobbs Message-Id: <199907041956.MAA16743@bubba.whistle.com> Subject: Digital cameras To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1999 12:56:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm thinking of buying a digital camera and was wondering which ones (if any) use a protocol for downloading pictures that is compatible with FreeBSD -- ie, some port exists to download the pictures.. or, at least, the protocol is documented somewhere.. Thanks for any info. -Archie ___________________________________________________________________________ Archie Cobbs * Whistle Communications, Inc. * http://www.whistle.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Jul 4 13: 0: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from bubba.whistle.com (s205m7.whistle.com [207.76.205.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 789CC14CAE for ; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 13:00:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from archie@whistle.com) Received: (from archie@localhost) by bubba.whistle.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) id NAA16863 for freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 13:00:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Archie Cobbs Message-Id: <199907042000.NAA16863@bubba.whistle.com> Subject: Re: Digital cameras In-Reply-To: <199907041956.MAA16743@bubba.whistle.com> from Archie Cobbs at "Jul 4, 99 12:56:37 pm" To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1999 13:00:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Archie Cobbs writes: > I'm thinking of buying a digital camera and was wondering which > ones (if any) use a protocol for downloading pictures that is > compatible with FreeBSD -- ie, some port exists to download the > pictures.. or, at least, the protocol is documented somewhere.. Ah, nevermind! ..answered my own question.. if anyone else is interested search for the word "camera" on this page.. http://www.freebsd.org/ports/graphics.html -Archie ___________________________________________________________________________ Archie Cobbs * Whistle Communications, Inc. * http://www.whistle.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Jul 4 13:19: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (mail.wolves.k12.mo.us [207.160.214.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD03F14CAE for ; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 13:18:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us) Received: from mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (cdillon@mail.wolves.k12.mo.us [207.160.214.1]) by mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA66973; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 15:18:56 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us) Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1999 15:18:55 -0500 (CDT) From: Chris Dillon To: Archie Cobbs Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Digital cameras In-Reply-To: <199907042000.NAA16863@bubba.whistle.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 4 Jul 1999, Archie Cobbs wrote: > Archie Cobbs writes: > > I'm thinking of buying a digital camera and was wondering which > > ones (if any) use a protocol for downloading pictures that is > > compatible with FreeBSD -- ie, some port exists to download the > > pictures.. or, at least, the protocol is documented somewhere.. > > Ah, nevermind! ..answered my own question.. if anyone else is > interested search for the word "camera" on this page.. > > http://www.freebsd.org/ports/graphics.html If you're willing to spend a fair chunk of money for it, you could get a Sony Mavica which stores its pictures as JPGs on a DOS-formatted floppy. We have a couple of those at work, and they work quite well, but don't expect to be able to take rapid successive pictures. Floppies have always been a tad slow. One of those cameras that use the tiny flash disks probably also store their pictures in a similar fashion, but then you'd need some kind of reader that worked under FreeBSD. I've never actually used one of those yet, so I don't know. -- Chris Dillon - cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us - cdillon@inter-linc.net FreeBSD: The fastest and most stable server OS on the planet. For Intel x86 and Alpha architectures (SPARC under development). ( http://www.freebsd.org ) "One should admire Windows users. It takes a great deal of courage to trust Windows with your data." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Jul 4 15:41:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.243.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3A5F14D72 for ; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 15:40:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA25432 for freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 00:40:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 00:40:41 +0200 (CEST) From: Oliver Fromme Message-Id: <199907042240.AAA25432@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Digital cameras Organization: Administration Heim 3 Reply-To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 RZTUC(3) PL2] Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Archie Cobbs wrote in list.freebsd-multimedia: > I'm thinking of buying a digital camera and was wondering which > ones (if any) use a protocol for downloading pictures that is > compatible with FreeBSD -- ie, some port exists to download the > pictures.. or, at least, the protocol is documented somewhere.. Me too! I'm fed up with my old Apple QuickTake (low image quality, non-extendable small memory, proprietary file format, requires me to boot NT to download the images). The Sony "Mavica" family of cameras looks nice, because it simply writes JPEG files on standard FAT floppies. But the resolution and picture quality is rather bad (no wonder -- there's only 1.4 Mbyte per floppy). I currently favour the Kodak DC240. It is supported by gphoto (in the ports), although that uses only a serial connection, which is pretty slow. On the other hand, the camera features an USB port, too, and Kodak seems to freely provide information to developers, so it might be possible to write an USB driver for it. This would be definitely cool. Finally, another way would be to buy a PCMCIA adaptor for CompactFlash cards (which are used by the DC240 and many other digital cameras) and a PCMCIA-to-IDE "drive". In theory, you should be able to just mount the CompactFlash card just like a DOS drive. Has someone actually done this under FreeBSD and can confirm that this actually works? (A CF-to-PCMCIA adapter is ~ $20, a PCMCIA-to-IDE "drive" is ~ $150 -- I'd rather not spend that money if it doesn't work.) By the way, the major drawback of the Kodak DC240 is that it does not support manual focus (it's autofocus only). But well, you can't have everything... Regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, Leibnizstr. 18/61, 38678 Clausthal, Germany (Info: finger userinfo:olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) "In jedem Stück Kohle wartet ein Diamant auf seine Geburt" (Terry Pratchett) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Jul 4 16:33:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from poboxer.pobox.com (unknown [208.149.16.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B22DF15173; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 16:33:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alk@poboxer.pobox.com) Received: (from alk@localhost) by poboxer.pobox.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id SAA01490; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 18:33:06 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from alk) From: Anthony Kimball MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1999 18:33:05 -0500 (CDT) X-Face: \h9Jg:Cuivl4S*UP-)gO.6O=T]]@ncM*tn4zG);)lk#4|lqEx=*talx?.Gk,dMQU2)ptPC17cpBzm(l'M|H8BUF1&]dDCxZ.c~Wy6-j,^V1E(NtX$FpkkdnJixsJHE95JlhO 5\M3jh'YiO7KPCn0~W`Ro44_TB@&JuuqRqgPL'0/{):7rU-%.*@/>q?1&Ed Reply-To: alk@pobox.com To: marcel@scc.nl Cc: emulation@FreeBSD.ORG, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RealPlayer G2 for Linux (6.0-0.99051701) References: <19990702182620.A9199@ipass.net> <19990704110548.A15133@ipass.net> <377FAEEB.F3CA2EC9@scc.nl> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14207.61091.350155.525043@avalon.east> Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org My experience using 4.0-current, device pcm0 at isa? port? irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x13 and a full install of RedHat 5.2 as /compat/linux is that playback fails with a dialog: Some components are not available to provide playback... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Jul 4 16:36:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from poboxer.pobox.com (unknown [208.149.16.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E60E15173 for ; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 16:36:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alk@poboxer.pobox.com) Received: (from alk@localhost) by poboxer.pobox.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id SAA01528; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 18:36:40 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from alk) From: Anthony Kimball MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1999 18:36:40 -0500 (CDT) X-Face: \h9Jg:Cuivl4S*UP-)gO.6O=T]]@ncM*tn4zG);)lk#4|lqEx=*talx?.Gk,dMQU2)ptPC17cpBzm(l'M|H8BUF1&]dDCxZ.c~Wy6-j,^V1E(NtX$FpkkdnJixsJHE95JlhO 5\M3jh'YiO7KPCn0~W`Ro44_TB@&JuuqRqgPL'0/{):7rU-%.*@/>q?1&Ed Reply-To: alk@pobox.com To: cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us Cc: archie@whistle.com, freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Digital cameras References: <199907042000.NAA16863@bubba.whistle.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14207.61379.557945.761770@avalon.east> Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Quoth Chris Dillon on Sun, 4 July: : : One of those cameras that use the tiny flash disks probably also store : their pictures in a similar fashion, but then you'd need some kind of : reader that worked under FreeBSD. I've never actually used one of : those yet, so I don't know. : I am given to understand (but have no actual experience to back it up) that the cameras using SmartMedia come with an adapter so that you can read the flash with a floopy drive. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Jul 4 17:32:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB68415253 for ; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 17:32:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id JAA23140; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 09:52:31 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) id JAA00625; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 09:52:00 +0930 (CST) Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 09:52:00 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Archie Cobbs Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Digital cameras Message-ID: <19990705095200.B451@freebie.lemis.com> References: <199907041956.MAA16743@bubba.whistle.com> <199907042000.NAA16863@bubba.whistle.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <199907042000.NAA16863@bubba.whistle.com>; from Archie Cobbs on Sun, Jul 04, 1999 at 01:00:06PM -0700 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sunday, 4 July 1999 at 13:00:06 -0700, Archie Cobbs wrote: > Archie Cobbs writes: >> I'm thinking of buying a digital camera and was wondering which >> ones (if any) use a protocol for downloading pictures that is >> compatible with FreeBSD -- ie, some port exists to download the >> pictures.. or, at least, the protocol is documented somewhere.. > > Ah, nevermind! ..answered my own question.. if anyone else is > interested search for the word "camera" on this page.. > > http://www.freebsd.org/ports/graphics.html I don't know which part of that page you're looking at, but last time I looked the Casio QV [57]5000 wasn't supported. That may not be obvious from the text of ports like qvplay. Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Jul 4 17:34:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from wireless.net (wireless.net [207.137.156.159]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B0E5151DE; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 17:34:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bad@uhf.wireless.net) Received: from uhf.wireless.net (uhf.wireless.net [209.75.70.121]) by wireless.net (8.8.7/8.8.4) with ESMTP id RAA17182; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 17:48:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (bad@localhost) by uhf.wireless.net (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA00450; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 20:35:24 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bad@uhf.wireless.net) Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1999 20:35:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Bernie Doehner To: Anthony Kimball Cc: marcel@scc.nl, emulation@FreeBSD.ORG, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RealPlayer G2 for Linux (6.0-0.99051701) In-Reply-To: <14207.61091.350155.525043@avalon.east> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org OH..... I am using 3.2-R, because this box has to be semi-stable... I don't suppose there is a requirement to be running 4.0-current for G2 to work? Bernie On Sun, 4 Jul 1999, Anthony Kimball wrote: > Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1999 18:33:05 -0500 (CDT) > From: Anthony Kimball > To: marcel@scc.nl > Cc: emulation@FreeBSD.ORG, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: RealPlayer G2 for Linux (6.0-0.99051701) > > > My experience using 4.0-current, > device pcm0 at isa? port? irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x13 > and a full install of RedHat 5.2 as /compat/linux is that > playback fails with a dialog: > Some components are not available to provide playback... > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Jul 4 19: 6:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from pluto.ipass.net (pluto.ipass.net [198.79.53.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66FE114A0B; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 19:06:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ipass.net) Received: from stealth.ipass.net. (ppp-1-53.dialup.rdu.ipass.net [209.170.132.53]) by pluto.ipass.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA29551; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 22:06:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.ipass.net. (8.9.3/8.8.8) id WAA12311; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 22:08:46 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rhh) Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1999 22:08:46 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Bernie Doehner Cc: Anthony Kimball , marcel@scc.nl, emulation@FreeBSD.ORG, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RealPlayer G2 for Linux (6.0-0.99051701) Message-ID: <19990704220846.A12246@ipass.net> References: <14207.61091.350155.525043@avalon.east> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Bernie Doehner on Sun, Jul 04, 1999 at 08:35:22PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Bernie Doehner: |Anthony Kimball: |> |> My experience using 4.0-current, |> device pcm0 at isa? port? irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x13 |> and a full install of RedHat 5.2 as /compat/linux is that |> playback fails with a dialog: |> Some components are not available to provide playback... |OH..... I am using 3.2-R, because this box has to be semi-stable... I |don't suppose there is a requirement to be running 4.0-current for G2 to |work? Hope not. That's what I'm running here, and no error messages thus far :-) Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Jul 4 19:28:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from pluto.ipass.net (pluto.ipass.net [198.79.53.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3E2F1523D; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 19:28:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ipass.net) Received: from stealth.ipass.net. (ppp-1-53.dialup.rdu.ipass.net [209.170.132.53]) by pluto.ipass.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA01219; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 22:28:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.ipass.net. (8.9.3/8.8.8) id WAA12835; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 22:30:21 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rhh) Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1999 22:30:20 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Keith Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RealPlayer G2 for Linux (6.0-0.99051701) Message-ID: <19990704223020.B12246@ipass.net> References: <19990702182620.A9199@ipass.net> <19990705025055.C332@keith.home> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: <19990705025055.C332@keith.home>; from Keith on Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 02:50:55AM +0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Keith: |On 07/04/99, Bernie Doehner wrote: |> I just tried installing it on my 3.2-R box, and I keep getting signal 11 |> core dumps, pretty much at startup. | |It seems that G2 for Linux has to be installed & run with root privilege. It's not setuid here, and it runs fine in a non-root account on 3.2-R. I just: 1) pulled the rpm package from real.com 2) ran rpm2cpio on it 3) extracted it in the /compat/linux tree using "cpio -ivmud" 4) snagged libstdc++.so.2.8 from a Redhat 5.2 box 5) ran /compat/linux/sbin/ldconfig, and 6) created a link from /compat/linux/usr/bin/realplay to /opt/bin/rvplayer_v6_0.linux /opt/bin is in my $PATH, and I run rvplayer through the symlink created in #6. Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Jul 4 19:49:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from pluto.ipass.net (pluto.ipass.net [198.79.53.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6773F14E09; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 19:49:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ipass.net) Received: from stealth.ipass.net. (ppp-1-53.dialup.rdu.ipass.net [209.170.132.53]) by pluto.ipass.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA02937; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 22:49:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.ipass.net. (8.9.3/8.8.8) id WAA13376; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 22:51:34 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rhh) Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1999 22:51:34 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Bernie Doehner Cc: emulation@FreeBSD.ORG, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RealPlayer G2 for Linux (6.0-0.99051701) Message-ID: <19990704225134.A13369@ipass.net> References: <14207.61091.350155.525043@avalon.east> <19990704220846.A12246@ipass.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: <19990704220846.A12246@ipass.net>; from Randall Hopper on Sun, Jul 04, 1999 at 10:08:46PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Randall Hopper: |Bernie Doehner: | |Anthony Kimball: | |> | |> My experience using 4.0-current, | |> device pcm0 at isa? port? irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x13 | |> and a full install of RedHat 5.2 as /compat/linux is that | |> playback fails with a dialog: | |> Some components are not available to provide playback... | |OH..... I am using 3.2-R, because this box has to be semi-stable... I | |don't suppose there is a requirement to be running 4.0-current for G2 to | |work? | |Hope not. That's what I'm running here, and no error messages thus far :-) Also, (relevent to this thread) I'm running Voxware. Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Jul 4 20:17:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from pluto.ipass.net (pluto.ipass.net [198.79.53.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9C70151FA for ; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 20:17:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ipass.net) Received: from stealth.ipass.net. (ppp-1-53.dialup.rdu.ipass.net [209.170.132.53]) by pluto.ipass.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA05187 for ; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 23:17:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.ipass.net. (8.9.3/8.8.8) id XAA14251 for multimedia@freebsd.org; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 23:19:09 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rhh) Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1999 23:19:09 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: rplayd -- failing with fcntl(NON_BLOCK) on 3.2R Message-ID: <19990704231909.A13666@ipass.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Does this ring any bells with anyone? I upgraded to 3.2-R recently and just now am looking at why rplayd is failing to startup now when I continue to start it from /etc/rc.local. However, it runs fine when I start it manually from the console. In case it's useful, here's my invocation: /usr/local/sbin/rplayd --audio-close=1 \ -F 1 \ --audio-match \ --conf=/opt/etc/rplay.conf \ --hosts=/opt/etc/rplay.hosts & Also, I slapped a ktrace on it in /etc/rc.local, and here's what the tail end of it looks like when it bails out: 319 rplayd CALL socket(0x2,0x2,0) 319 rplayd RET socket 3 319 rplayd CALL bind(0x3,0xbfbfdc90,0x10) 319 rplayd RET bind 0 319 rplayd CALL fcntl(0,0x3,0) 319 rplayd RET fcntl 0 319 rplayd CALL fcntl(0,0x4,0x4) <----------------------------------- 319 rplayd RET fcntl -1 errno 19 Operation not supported by device 319 rplayd CALL writev(0x2,0x80704e0,0x2) 319 rplayd RET writev -1 errno 5 Input/output error 319 rplayd CALL close(0) 319 rplayd RET close 0 319 rplayd CALL close(0xffffffff) 319 rplayd RET close -1 errno 9 Bad file descriptor 319 rplayd CALL close(0x3) 319 rplayd RET close 0 319 rplayd CALL close(0xffffffff) 319 rplayd RET close -1 errno 9 Bad file descriptor 319 rplayd CALL exit(0x1) I'm not 100% sure, but is this trying to set stdin to non-blocking? Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Jul 4 21:18:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 02A6314BF1 for ; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 21:18:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id DAA18665; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 03:47:16 +0200 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199907050147.DAA18665@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: Digital cameras To: grog@lemis.com (Greg Lehey) Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 03:47:15 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: archie@whistle.com, freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19990705095200.B451@freebie.lemis.com> from "Greg Lehey" at Jul 5, 99 09:51:41 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1016 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > >> I'm thinking of buying a digital camera and was wondering which > >> ones (if any) use a protocol for downloading pictures that is on the subject... catalogs for video and still cameras often say "CCD with XXX pixels" and at first i thought the count included the three components (RGB) as _one_ pixel. But now i have started seeing (especially for video cameras) pixel counts that are beyond reasonable video resolution, and that makes me think that perhaps the the actual resolution is the pixel count in the Ad divided by 3 ? cheers luigi -----------------------------------+------------------------------------- Luigi RIZZO, luigi@iet.unipi.it . Dip. di Ing. dell'Informazione http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ . Universita` di Pisa TEL/FAX: +39-050-568.533/522 . via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ngc99/ ==== First International Workshop on Networked Group Communication ==== -----------------------------------+------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Jul 4 21:39:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FEBF14ED5 for ; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 21:39:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id OAA24036; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 14:09:18 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) id OAA09820; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 14:09:01 +0930 (CST) Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 14:09:00 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Luigi Rizzo Cc: archie@whistle.com, freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Digital cameras Message-ID: <19990705140900.I451@freebie.lemis.com> References: <19990705095200.B451@freebie.lemis.com> <199907050147.DAA18665@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <199907050147.DAA18665@labinfo.iet.unipi.it>; from Luigi Rizzo on Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 03:47:15AM +0200 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Monday, 5 July 1999 at 3:47:15 +0200, Luigi Rizzo wrote: >>>> I'm thinking of buying a digital camera and was wondering which >>>> ones (if any) use a protocol for downloading pictures that is > > on the subject... catalogs for video and still cameras often say "CCD > with XXX pixels" and at first i thought the count included the three > components (RGB) as _one_ pixel. > > But now i have started seeing (especially for video cameras) pixel > counts that are beyond reasonable video resolution, and that makes > me think that perhaps the the actual resolution is the pixel count > in the Ad divided by 3 ? Shouldn't be. In any case, the resolutions of the cameras are "real" pixels. When I load an image from my camera, it comes at 1280x960. Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Jul 4 22:26:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from bilby.prth.tensor.pgs.com (bilby.prth.tensor.pgs.com [157.147.232.237]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41FCD14D20 for ; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 22:26:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shocking@ariadne.prth.tensor.pgs.com) Received: from bandicoot.prth.tensor.pgs.com (bandicoot.prth.tensor.pgs.com [157.147.224.1]) by bilby.prth.tensor.pgs.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA07029; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 13:24:26 +0800 (WST) Received: from ariadne.tensor.pgs.com (ariadne [157.147.227.36]) by bandicoot.prth.tensor.pgs.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA06943; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 13:25:35 +0800 (WST) Received: from ariadne by ariadne.tensor.pgs.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA25530; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 13:25:35 +0800 Message-Id: <199907050525.NAA25530@ariadne.tensor.pgs.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Mods to snd drivers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 13:25:34 +0800 From: Stephen Hocking-Senior Programmer PGS Tensor Perth Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've finnaly moved from my old PAS16 (which I used under the Voxware drivers) to a PnP CS4236 clone. This works fine (once I told the BIOS that I *didn't* have a PnP OS). However, some niceties that I was used to under the Voxware drivers are not there - to wit a) Setting the queue size on DST_SETFRAGSIZE b) DSP_{SET,GET}TRIGGER c) Doing the mmap thing with an ioctl. It's obvious which application the last two are for 8^). However, a) is useful for dropping the latency for things like network telephones, which the full-duplex nature of the card & drivers is otherwise suited to. I see that you have the dma cycling around a 64k buffer. If we can't make the buffer small that DMA cycles around, would it be possible to approach this by changing the insertion point for writes? Stephen -- The views expressed above are not those of PGS Tensor. "We've heard that a million monkeys at a million keyboards could produce the Complete Works of Shakespeare; now, thanks to the Internet, we know this is not true." Robert Wilensky, University of California To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Jul 4 22:26:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from bilby.prth.tensor.pgs.com (bilby.prth.tensor.pgs.com [157.147.232.237]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37DCB14D20 for ; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 22:26:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shocking@ariadne.prth.tensor.pgs.com) Received: from bandicoot.prth.tensor.pgs.com (bandicoot.prth.tensor.pgs.com [157.147.224.1]) by bilby.prth.tensor.pgs.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA07357 for ; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 13:25:26 +0800 (WST) Received: from ariadne.tensor.pgs.com (ariadne [157.147.227.36]) by bandicoot.prth.tensor.pgs.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA18713 for ; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 12:58:52 +0800 (WST) Received: from ariadne by ariadne.tensor.pgs.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA22207; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 12:58:52 +0800 Message-Id: <199907030458.MAA22207@ariadne.tensor.pgs.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Where to get libstdc++.so.2.8 for Linux Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 12:58:52 +0800 From: Stephen Hocking-Senior Programmer PGS Tensor Perth Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I got it from ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/pub/linux/redhat/redhat-6.0/i386/RedHat/RPMS/libstdc++-2.9. 0-12.i386.rpm and used rp2cpio to unpack it. Works great. Stephen -- The views expressed above are not those of PGS Tensor. "We've heard that a million monkeys at a million keyboards could produce the Complete Works of Shakespeare; now, thanks to the Internet, we know this is not true." Robert Wilensky, University of California To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Jul 5 1:26:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from gw.caamora.com.au (jonath5.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.41.237]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0DF114CAF for ; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 01:26:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jon@gw.caamora.com.au) Received: (from jon@localhost) by gw.caamora.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA24451; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 18:26:43 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from jon) Message-ID: <19990705182642.A24392@caamora.com.au> Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 18:26:43 +1000 From: jonathan michaels To: Archie Cobbs , freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Digital cameras References: <199907041956.MAA16743@bubba.whistle.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <199907041956.MAA16743@bubba.whistle.com>; from Archie Cobbs on Sun, Jul 04, 1999 at 12:56:37PM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD gw.caamora.com.au 2.2.7-RELEASE i386 X-Mood: i'm alive, if it counts Organisation: Caamora, PO Box 144, Rosebery NSW 1445 Australia Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Jul 04, 1999 at 12:56:37PM -0700, Archie Cobbs wrote: > I'm thinking of buying a digital camera and was wondering which > ones (if any) use a protocol for downloading pictures that is > compatible with FreeBSD -- ie, some port exists to download the > pictures.. or, at least, the protocol is documented somewhere.. if you buy a sony mavica you dont need any of that sort of stuff, the sony puts jpeg (and or gif, i think) images ont a 1.44 mb floppy diskette. this is about the sanest solution in a market that is yet to settle, some of the good cameras have custom built software for ms windows and unix .. but these camera start at some 45k (thats fourtyfive thousand australian dollars) and have got very good after sales support. of those the pentax 6x7 fromat aith the canon ccd element is about the best, aslo one of the cheapest. i keep up with the photo (digital or normal 35 mm and 6x7 format) scene, i used to be a passable photographer before i became a near bed ridden complainer, er freebsd user. i've got some comparisions on paper, i need to borrow a scaner and get permission to copy the data, would yo be interested in a email detailing the results. also thier is a japanesse website that (might be in teh freebsd.org's webpage listing, i think) here is a good list of whats available (in japan most of teh home market is also exported) and has details of the lenses type of dounload and all teh other important stuff, fromat of 'film media' file types and average sizes. regards jonathan sorry fro bit confused, i'm a bit confused at the moment, new dr new medicines .. sort of thing. -- =============================================================================== Jonathan Michaels PO Box 144, Rosebery, NSW 1445 Australia =========================================================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Jul 5 1:37:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from gaia.euronet.nl (gaia.euronet.nl [194.134.0.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C823814CAF; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 01:37:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel@scc.nl) Received: from scones.sup.scc.nl (i239.ztm.euronet.nl [194.134.67.40]) by gaia.euronet.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA18973; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 10:37:21 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from scc.nl (scones.sup.scc.nl [192.168.2.4]) by scones.sup.scc.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA06079; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 10:37:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marcel@scc.nl) Message-ID: <37806EB9.E693B702@scc.nl> Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 10:37:13 +0200 From: Marcel Moolenaar Organization: SCC vof X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: alk@pobox.com Cc: emulation@FreeBSD.ORG, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RealPlayer G2 for Linux (6.0-0.99051701) References: <19990702182620.A9199@ipass.net> <19990704110548.A15133@ipass.net> <377FAEEB.F3CA2EC9@scc.nl> <14207.61091.350155.525043@avalon.east> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Anthony Kimball wrote: > > My experience using 4.0-current, > device pcm0 at isa? port? irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x13 > and a full install of RedHat 5.2 as /compat/linux is that What exactly do you mean with "a full install of RH 5.2"? > playback fails with a dialog: > Some components are not available to provide playback... Is this emulation related, or is this because RP G2 is still alpha? -- Marcel Moolenaar mailto:marcel@scc.nl SCC Internetworking & Databases http://www.scc.nl/ Amsterdam, The Netherlands tel: +31 20 4200655 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Jul 5 1:45:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD05715374 for ; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 01:45:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from salmon.nlsystems.com (salmon.nlsystems.com [10.0.0.3]) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA87438; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 09:44:25 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 09:44:25 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: Stephen Hocking-Senior Programmer PGS Tensor Perth Cc: luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it, multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mods to snd drivers In-Reply-To: <199907050525.NAA25530@ariadne.tensor.pgs.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 5 Jul 1999, Stephen Hocking-Senior Programmer PGS Tensor Perth wrote: > I've finnaly moved from my old PAS16 (which I used under the Voxware drivers) > to a PnP CS4236 clone. This works fine (once I told the BIOS that I *didn't* > have a PnP OS). However, some niceties that I was used to under the Voxware > drivers are not there - to wit > > a) Setting the queue size on DST_SETFRAGSIZE > > b) DSP_{SET,GET}TRIGGER > > c) Doing the mmap thing with an ioctl. > > > It's obvious which application the last two are for 8^). However, a) is useful > for dropping the latency for things like network telephones, which the > full-duplex nature of the card & drivers is otherwise suited to. I see that > you have the dma cycling around a 64k buffer. If we can't make the buffer > small that DMA cycles around, would it be possible to approach this by > changing the insertion point for writes? Speak to Cameron Grant . Cameron has been working on the pcm driver recently (I hope that his new driver will be ready to commit soon). -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. 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------=_NextPart_000_0044_01BEC6D2.6476ED60-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Jul 5 2:48:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk [130.159.196.126]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76C8C14E55 for ; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 02:48:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roger@cs.strath.ac.uk) Received: from muir-10 (roger@muir-10.cs.strath.ac.uk [130.159.148.10]) by fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA03827 Mon, 5 Jul 1999 10:48:15 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <37807F5E.59E2@cs.strath.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 10:48:14 +0100 From: Roger Hardiman Organization: University of Strathclyde X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (X11; I; OSF1 V4.0 alpha) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Luigi Rizzo Cc: Greg Lehey , archie@whistle.com, freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Digital cameras References: <199907050147.DAA18665@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Luigi > But now i have started seeing (especially for video cameras) pixel > counts that are beyond reasonable video resolution, and that makes > me think that perhaps the the actual resolution is the pixel count > in the Ad divided by 3 ? On LCD displays, like those in the VR Headsets I have, the number of Pixels on the LCD display is actual 'light emitting' elements. As 3 elements are used for each pixel (R,G and B) you also have to divide Advertised number by 3. So, the trend for marketting is the number of elements and not the number of pixels. bye Roger To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Jul 5 3:20:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BA6B114E68 for ; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 03:20:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id JAA19380; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 09:48:32 +0200 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199907050748.JAA19380@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: Digital cameras To: roger@cs.strath.ac.uk (Roger Hardiman) Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 09:48:32 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: grog@lemis.com, archie@whistle.com, freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <37807F5E.59E2@cs.strath.ac.uk> from "Roger Hardiman" at Jul 5, 99 10:47:55 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 400 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > On LCD displays, like those in the VR Headsets I have, the number > of Pixels on the LCD display is actual 'light emitting' > elements. As 3 elements are used for each pixel (R,G and B) > you also have to divide Advertised number by 3. > > So, the trend for marketting is the number of elements and > not the number of pixels. which is ok, except that they call them pixels... cheers luigi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Jul 5 3:48:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.243.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10F0D14C4B for ; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 03:48:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA16905 for freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 12:48:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 12:48:12 +0200 (CEST) From: Oliver Fromme Message-Id: <199907051048.MAA16905@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Digital cameras Organization: Administration Heim 3 Reply-To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 RZTUC(3) PL2] Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Luigi Rizzo wrote in list.freebsd-multimedia: > > On LCD displays, like those in the VR Headsets I have, the number > > of Pixels on the LCD display is actual 'light emitting' > > elements. As 3 elements are used for each pixel (R,G and B) > > you also have to divide Advertised number by 3. > > > > So, the trend for marketting is the number of elements and > > not the number of pixels. > > which is ok, except that they call them pixels... That doesn't seem to apply to digital cameras, though. At least all of those that I have taken into consideration for my purchase measure resolution and CCD size in full pixels. (E.g. the Kodak DC240 is 1280 × 960, and its CCD is 1.3 Mpixels, and those are definitely "real" pixels.) Regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, Leibnizstr. 18/61, 38678 Clausthal, Germany (Info: finger userinfo:olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) "In jedem Stück Kohle wartet ein Diamant auf seine Geburt" (Terry Pratchett) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Jul 5 12:18:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0E3C015109 for ; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 12:18:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id SAA20559; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 18:47:45 +0200 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199907051647.SAA20559@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: Mods to snd drivers To: shocking@prth.pgs.com (Stephen Hocking-Senior Programmer PGS Tensor Perth) Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 18:47:45 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199907050525.NAA25530@ariadne.tensor.pgs.com> from "Stephen Hocking-Senior Programmer PGS Tensor Perth" at Jul 5, 99 01:25:15 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1846 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sorry about the late reply... > I've finnaly moved from my old PAS16 (which I used under the Voxware drivers) > to a PnP CS4236 clone. This works fine (once I told the BIOS that I *didn't* > have a PnP OS). However, some niceties that I was used to under the Voxware > drivers are not there - to wit > > a) Setting the queue size on DST_SETFRAGSIZE this would be rather simple to implement without changing the DMA buffer size. It would suffice to check, when you write into the buffer, that you don't exceed the programmed size instead of the full buffer size. I just got lazy because you can control this by other means eg probing the queue occupation before writing and doing a more informed data drop or whatever in userland. E.g. i think the modified audio_voxware.cc in vat does something like this (maybe the code is commented out, but i am almost sure it is there). > b) DSP_{SET,GET}TRIGGER ok, this is missing. > c) Doing the mmap thing with an ioctl. the latter is there, just of no use without trigger support! > It's obvious which application the last two are for 8^). However, a) is useful > for dropping the latency for things like network telephones, which the > full-duplex nature of the card & drivers is otherwise suited to. I see that see above. this is certainly a useful thing, but can be done without setting the buffer size. cheers luigi -----------------------------------+------------------------------------- Luigi RIZZO, luigi@iet.unipi.it . Dip. di Ing. dell'Informazione http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ . Universita` di Pisa TEL/FAX: +39-050-568.533/522 . via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ngc99/ ==== First International Workshop on Networked Group Communication ==== -----------------------------------+------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Jul 5 23:38:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from nico.telstra.net (nico.telstra.net [139.130.204.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0644D153BA; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 23:38:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scottd@telstra.net) Received: from pc62 ([203.18.120.99]) by nico.telstra.net (8.8.8/8.6.10) with SMTP id QAA18895; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 16:37:27 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990706163726.0097eb50@nico.telstra.net> X-Sender: scottd@nico.telstra.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 16:37:26 +1000 To: Randall Hopper From: Scott Donovan Subject: Re: RealPlayer G2 for Linux (6.0-0.99051701) Cc: Bernie Doehner , emulation@FreeBSD.ORG, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19990704225134.A13369@ipass.net> References: <19990704220846.A12246@ipass.net> <14207.61091.350155.525043@avalon.east> <19990704220846.A12246@ipass.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Also, (relevent to this thread) I'm running Voxware. > Yep it looks as if voxware is a requirement :-( I get great vid, and no audio.. Arrgg.. kernel recompile here I come.. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jul 6 2:58:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mri2.rug.ac.be (mri2.rug.ac.be [157.193.133.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 67BEE14F56 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 02:58:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from glateur@mri2.rug.ac.be) Received: from mri3.mri by mri2.rug.ac.be; (5.65/1.1.8.2/03Nov94-8.2MPM) id AA25090; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 11:58:31 +0200 Received: from mri2.rug.ac.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mri3.mri (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA21899 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 11:58:18 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <3781D33A.C9B15616@mri2.rug.ac.be> Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 11:58:18 +0200 From: Guy Lateur X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Which bt-card to buy? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, As I'm planning on buying a video-acquisition card, I was wondering if there are known (major) differences between the various brands. Some general performance estimates (fps / resolution) for typical hardware-setup would be appreciated too. I looked at most of the producer's homepages, but without too much results.. Thanks, g. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jul 6 2:59:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from rina.naklab.dnj.ynu.ac.jp (rina.naklab.dnj.ynu.ac.jp [133.34.17.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3F8B153EF; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 02:59:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tanimura@naklab.dnj.ynu.ac.jp) Received: from rina.naklab.dnj.ynu.ac.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rina.naklab.dnj.ynu.ac.jp (8.9.1a/3.7W-Naklab-2.1-19981120) with ESMTP id SAA05637; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 18:59:23 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199907060959.SAA05637@rina.naklab.dnj.ynu.ac.jp> To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Cc: Seigo Tanimura Subject: MPU401 now works under New Midi Driver Framework with a Fine Timer From: Seigo Tanimura X-Mailer: Mew version 1.70 on Emacs 19.34.1 / Mule 2.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 18:59:23 +0900 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi! MPU401, the most widely-used midi interface now works under my midi driver framework. Another new thing is a fine timer at a period of 156us, called directly from hardclock(). You can try the patch at: http://www.naklab.dnj.ynu.ac.jp/~tanimura/freebsd-serialmidi/patch/ newmidi-19990706.diff.gz The instruction is at: http://www.naklab.dnj.ynu.ac.jp/~tanimura/freebsd-serialmidi/ Here is the introduction of my new timer: Unlike 16550, MPU401 does not generate an interrupt on TX-ready. So we have to choose one of the following two options to drive MPU401: A. polling the status to wait until TX-ready, B. emulating a TX-ready interrupt by a timer. The option A, used by VoxWare(sys/i386/isa/sound/sb16_midi.c:sb16midi_out()), consumes most of syscall time to wait for MPU401 to come TX-ready. One byte of midi message takes 0.32ms to transmit. Some certain midi sequences contain continuous long sysexes summed up to 200 bytes or more, leaving a latency of 0.32 * 200 = 60ms or something like that. This latency results in an unstable tempo. I have chosen the option B to eliminate the latency on message transmission. In this case, the timer needs to be capable of a period less than 0.32ms. The conventional timeout(9) has a period of 1/hz[s], which is generally 10ms. (hz = 100) While raising hz to, eg 3000 seems to shorten the period of timeout(9) enough, many parts of the kernel would be affected by this change, likely to end up with poor stability. To solve this problem, I propose a new *fine* callout mechanism. The realtime clock interrupt is at (hz * (1 << hzmul))[Hz], where (1 << hzmul) is the mutiplication ratio of hz. Although the ratio can be any natural number in theory, I have chosen the power of two to reduce the computational cost of the clock divider. (discussed later) As desceribed above, (for i386) clkintr() is called at (hz * (1 << hzmul))[Hz], calling hardclock() at the same frequency. hardclock() has two elements in it: a callout detector and a clock divider. A callout detector traverses the callout list and makes a callout, as in softclock(), except that the IPL stays at splclock. A clock divider reduces the frequency to hz[Hz], to process the conventional hardclock(), which is now renamed to hardclock1(), and softclock(). Although dividing a clock tick generally involves a costing division operation of the dividor counter by (1 << hzmul), a ratio of 2^n allows us to replace the operation with a simple shift of (clkdiv >> hzmul), where clkdiv is the dividor counter incremented one by one on a hardclock(). Fig 1 shows the frequency and the IPL of the new timer handlers. Frequency IPL Timer ^ ^ Generator | | | | | v (hz * (1 << hzmul))[Hz] splclock clkintr() | | | | | v v v hardclock() -> Fine ________________________________________ | Callouts ^ ^ v | | hardclock1() | | | hz[Hz] splsoftclock v | | softclock() -> Conventional | | Callouts v v Fig 1: Call Frequency and IPL under New Timer Handling I have implemented the new fine callout system discussed above in the latest patch of my midi driver. hzmul is 6, to multiply the timer frequency to 6400Hz. The usage of the fine callout is the same as timeout(9), except for the prefix of fine-, and that the granularity of the ticks is (1/(hz * (1 << hzmul)))[s]. Although I have not done any quantitative evaluation yet, I played some midi sequences with sysex messages to show a picture on the LCD of my SC-88, recognizing no latency like VoxWare. This result states the effectiveness of my proposing fine callout system. The future works include porting to alpha and PC98, and tuning hzmul. Whew, that was some kind of a paper to write! I would be pleased very much if you let me know how you think of my idea. Thanks in advance! Seigo Tanimura To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jul 6 4: 4:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from rina.naklab.dnj.ynu.ac.jp (rina.naklab.dnj.ynu.ac.jp [133.34.17.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0495F1512B; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 04:04:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tanimura@naklab.dnj.ynu.ac.jp) Received: from rina.naklab.dnj.ynu.ac.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rina.naklab.dnj.ynu.ac.jp (8.9.1a/3.7W-Naklab-2.1-19981120) with ESMTP id TAA06155; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 19:26:52 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199907061026.TAA06155@rina.naklab.dnj.ynu.ac.jp> To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Cc: Seigo Tanimura Subject: Re: MPU401 now works under New Midi Driver Framework with a Fine Timer From: Seigo Tanimura In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 06 Jul 1999 18:59:23 +0900" References: <199907060959.SAA05637@rina.naklab.dnj.ynu.ac.jp> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.70 on Emacs 19.34.1 / Mule 2.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 19:26:52 +0900 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ouch... On Tue, 06 Jul 1999 18:59:23 +0900, Seigo Tanimura said: tanimura> You can try the patch at: tanimura> http://www.naklab.dnj.ynu.ac.jp/~tanimura/freebsd-serialmidi/patch/ tanimura> newmidi-19990706.diff.gz s/patch/patches/ Seigo Tanimura To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jul 6 7:43:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from norn.ca.eu.org (cr965240-b.abtsfd1.bc.wave.home.com [24.113.19.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6524314C83; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 07:43:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cpiazza@norn.ca.eu.org) Received: by norn.ca.eu.org (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 4622774B; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 07:42:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 07:42:37 -0700 From: Chris Piazza To: Scott Donovan Cc: Randall Hopper , Bernie Doehner , emulation@FreeBSD.ORG, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RealPlayer G2 for Linux (6.0-0.99051701) Message-ID: <19990707074237.A311@norn.ca.eu.org> References: <19990704220846.A12246@ipass.net> <14207.61091.350155.525043@avalon.east> <19990704220846.A12246@ipass.net> <19990704225134.A13369@ipass.net> <3.0.5.32.19990706163726.0097eb50@nico.telstra.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.6i In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990706163726.0097eb50@nico.telstra.net>; from Scott Donovan on Tue, Jul 06, 1999 at 04:37:26PM +1000 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Jul 06, 1999 at 04:37:26PM +1000, Scott Donovan wrote: > >Also, (relevent to this thread) I'm running Voxware. > > > > Yep it looks as if voxware is a requirement :-( I get great vid, and no > audio.. Arrgg.. kernel recompile here I come.. Well, no. I'm using pcm0 with an es1370 card and RealPlayer G2 works like a charm. -Chris -- cpiazza@home.net | cpiazza@FreeBSD.org "All this fuss about sleeping together. For physical pleasure I'd sooner go to my dentist any day." -Evelyn Waugh To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jul 6 10:56:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from poboxer.pobox.com (unknown [208.149.16.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A813114DDD; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 10:56:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alk@poboxer.pobox.com) Received: (from alk@localhost) by poboxer.pobox.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id MAA09956; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 12:56:12 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from alk) From: Anthony Kimball MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 12:56:12 -0500 (CDT) X-Face: \h9Jg:Cuivl4S*UP-)gO.6O=T]]@ncM*tn4zG);)lk#4|lqEx=*talx?.Gk,dMQU2)ptPC17cpBzm(l'M|H8BUF1&]dDCxZ.c~Wy6-j,^V1E(NtX$FpkkdnJixsJHE95JlhO 5\M3jh'YiO7KPCn0~W`Ro44_TB@&JuuqRqgPL'0/{):7rU-%.*@/>q?1&Ed Reply-To: alk@pobox.com To: marcel@scc.nl Cc: emulation@FreeBSD.ORG, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RealPlayer G2 for Linux (6.0-0.99051701) References: <19990704220846.A12246@ipass.net> <19990707074237.A311@norn.ca.eu.org> <37823A25.E1D96AA8@scc.nl> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14210.17053.675502.758528@avalon.east> Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Quoth Marcel Moolenaar on Mon, 5 July: : Anthony Kimball wrote: : > : > My experience using 4.0-current, : > device pcm0 at isa? port? irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x13 : > and a full install of RedHat 5.2 as /compat/linux is that : : What exactly do you mean with "a full install of RH 5.2"? I mean (approximately) that I have a disk partition with RH 5.2 installed on it which I mount as /compat/linux. : > playback fails with a dialog: : > Some components are not available to provide playback... : : Is this emulation related, or is this because RP G2 is still alpha? It seems to be emulation related. I discovered that installing the linux_lib port instead of mounting RH 5.2 resulted in a correctly functioning audio playback -- although I can't play midi files using the pcm driver. (Presumably G2 is trying to use the OSS FM interface.) A different problem with video, however: At 8bpp at least, the colors are all wrong. Does anyone know if there is a way to make the player install its own colormap? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jul 6 11:12: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from itchy.serv.net (itchy.serv.net [205.153.153.233]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52F8B14FE1; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 11:11:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from utz@itchy.serv.net) Received: from localhost (utz@localhost) by itchy.serv.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA26361; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 11:13:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 11:12:59 -0700 (PDT) From: The Utz Family To: Seigo Tanimura Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: MPU401 now works under New Midi Driver Framework with a Fine Timer In-Reply-To: <199907060959.SAA05637@rina.naklab.dnj.ynu.ac.jp> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org this is really cool, and i look forward to making use to this. (perhaps it might be time to change the name of the patch subdir from serial-midi to something else?) thankyou so much for your diligent efforts! On Tue, 6 Jul 1999, Seigo Tanimura wrote: > Hi! > > > MPU401, the most widely-used midi interface now works under > my midi driver framework. Another new thing is a fine timer > at a period of 156us, called directly from hardclock(). > > You can try the patch at: > http://www.naklab.dnj.ynu.ac.jp/~tanimura/freebsd-serialmidi/patch/ > newmidi-19990706.diff.gz > > The instruction is at: > http://www.naklab.dnj.ynu.ac.jp/~tanimura/freebsd-serialmidi/ > > > Here is the introduction of my new timer: > > Unlike 16550, MPU401 does not generate an interrupt on TX-ready. > So we have to choose one of the following two options to drive > MPU401: > > A. polling the status to wait until TX-ready, > B. emulating a TX-ready interrupt by a timer. > > The option A, used by VoxWare(sys/i386/isa/sound/sb16_midi.c:sb16midi_out()), > consumes most of syscall time to wait for MPU401 to come TX-ready. > One byte of midi message takes 0.32ms to transmit. Some certain midi > sequences contain continuous long sysexes summed up to 200 bytes or > more, leaving a latency of 0.32 * 200 = 60ms or something like that. > This latency results in an unstable tempo. > > I have chosen the option B to eliminate the latency on message > transmission. In this case, the timer needs to be capable of a period > less than 0.32ms. The conventional timeout(9) has a period of 1/hz[s], > which is generally 10ms. (hz = 100) While raising hz to, eg 3000 seems > to shorten the period of timeout(9) enough, many parts of the kernel > would be affected by this change, likely to end up with poor stability. > > To solve this problem, I propose a new *fine* callout mechanism. > The realtime clock interrupt is at (hz * (1 << hzmul))[Hz], where > (1 << hzmul) is the mutiplication ratio of hz. Although the ratio can > be any natural number in theory, I have chosen the power of two to > reduce the computational cost of the clock divider. (discussed later) > > As desceribed above, (for i386) clkintr() is called at > (hz * (1 << hzmul))[Hz], calling hardclock() at the same frequency. > hardclock() has two elements in it: a callout detector and a clock > divider. A callout detector traverses the callout list and makes > a callout, as in softclock(), except that the IPL stays at splclock. > A clock divider reduces the frequency to hz[Hz], to process the > conventional hardclock(), which is now renamed to hardclock1(), and > softclock(). Although dividing a clock tick generally involves a > costing division operation of the dividor counter by (1 << hzmul), > a ratio of 2^n allows us to replace the operation with a simple > shift of (clkdiv >> hzmul), where clkdiv is the dividor counter > incremented one by one on a hardclock(). > > Fig 1 shows the frequency and the IPL of the new timer handlers. > > > Frequency IPL > Timer ^ ^ > Generator | | > | | | > v (hz * (1 << hzmul))[Hz] splclock > clkintr() | | > | | | > v v v > hardclock() -> Fine ________________________________________ > | Callouts ^ ^ > v | | > hardclock1() | | > | hz[Hz] splsoftclock > v | | > softclock() -> Conventional | | > Callouts v v > > Fig 1: Call Frequency and IPL under New Timer Handling > > > I have implemented the new fine callout system discussed above > in the latest patch of my midi driver. hzmul is 6, to multiply the > timer frequency to 6400Hz. The usage of the fine callout is the same > as timeout(9), except for the prefix of fine-, and that the granularity > of the ticks is (1/(hz * (1 << hzmul)))[s]. Although I have not done > any quantitative evaluation yet, I played some midi sequences with > sysex messages to show a picture on the LCD of my SC-88, recognizing > no latency like VoxWare. This result states the effectiveness of my > proposing fine callout system. The future works include porting to > alpha and PC98, and tuning hzmul. > > > Whew, that was some kind of a paper to write! I would be pleased > very much if you let me know how you think of my idea. > > Thanks in advance! > > > Seigo Tanimura > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jul 6 12:12: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from solaris.matti.ee (solaris.matti.ee [194.126.98.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7FE714E20 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 12:12:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vallo@matti.ee) Received: from myhakas.matti.ee (myhakas.matti.ee [194.126.114.87]) by solaris.matti.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA12166 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 22:11:54 +0300 (EET DST) Received: by myhakas.matti.ee (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 53C8C1F82; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 22:12:03 +0300 (EEST) Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 22:12:03 +0300 From: Vallo Kallaste To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: How to actually link with GLX library? Message-ID: <19990706221203.A23182@myhakas.matti.ee> Reply-To: vallo@matti.ee Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i Organization: =?iso-8859-1?Q?AS_Matti_B=FCrootehnika?= Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello I got finally the GLX module and library compiled, it was quite a job for me. The module loads succesfully and I see the library listed also in ldconfig output. Now the question is how I can relink some applications or demos to see the real thing.. I will like to see the xlockmore linked against libGL.so.1 so I can run some nice screensavers. I don't have enough knowledge to do this, so please.. :-) Thanks -- Vallo Kallaste vallo@matti.ee To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jul 6 12:25:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from gloria.cord.edu (gloria.cord.edu [138.129.254.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4909A14F35 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 12:25:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from twschulz@gloria.cord.edu) Received: from localhost (twschulz@localhost) by gloria.cord.edu (8.9.0/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA16323; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 14:24:57 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 14:24:57 -0500 (CDT) From: Trenton Schulz To: Vallo Kallaste Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to actually link with GLX library? In-Reply-To: <19990706221203.A23182@myhakas.matti.ee> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 6 Jul 1999, Vallo Kallaste wrote: > Hello > > I got finally the GLX module and library compiled, it was quite a job > for me. The module loads succesfully and I see the library listed also > in ldconfig output. Now the question is how I can relink some > applications or demos to see the real thing.. I will like to see the > xlockmore linked against libGL.so.1 so I can run some nice screensavers. > I don't have enough knowledge to do this, so please.. :-) I assume you are talking about the nvidia glx module. Most OpenGL programs for FreeBSD (the ones in the port tree) are linked against libMesaGL.so.* If the application was linked against Mesa 3 all you need to is Link libMesaGL.so.* to your new libGL.so.1 and you should be ready to go. I did this and both xlock and battalion worked great (and real fast and pretty too) It also worked for my graphics projects from school. Good luck, -- Trenton Schulz twschulz@cord.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jul 6 14: 8:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 376B115171 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 14:08:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA04278; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 14:07:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: vallo@matti.ee Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to actually link with GLX library? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 06 Jul 1999 22:12:03 +0300." <19990706221203.A23182@myhakas.matti.ee> Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 14:07:18 -0700 Message-ID: <4274.931295238@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org See http://www.freebsdzine.org/199907/features/tnt.html - there's a complete step-by-step guide on using the Riva TNT with GLX. I have some familiarity with the URL. :) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jul 6 15: 2:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from oranje.my.domain (dial8-217.netcologne.de [195.14.235.217]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DB9E1549F for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 15:02:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from van.woerkom@netcologne.de) Received: (from marc@localhost) by oranje.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.1) id AAA02092; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 00:01:38 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from van.woerkom@netcologne.de) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 00:01:38 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <199907062201.AAA02092@oranje.my.domain> X-Authentication-Warning: oranje.my.domain: marc set sender to van.woerkom@netcologne.de using -f From: Marc van Woerkom To: jkh@zippy.cdrom.com Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <4274.931295238@zippy.cdrom.com> (jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Subject: Re: How to actually link with GLX library? Reply-To: van.woerkom@netcologne.de References: <4274.931295238@zippy.cdrom.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > See http://www.freebsdzine.org/199907/features/tnt.html - there's a > complete step-by-step guide on using the Riva TNT with GLX. I have > some familiarity with the URL. :) I am still using a plain RIVA 128 Diamond V330 card with my K6/300 (no AGP) system. 1. Your article mentions RIVA TNT/TNT2 only, but I see RIVA 128/128ZX patches too on the nvidia site 2. Does it make sense to use some cheapo TNT or TNT2 card in my system or should I wait for the next big hardware update (K7 + TNT2 successor..) somewhere end of this year? Regards, Marc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jul 6 15:11:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from oranje.my.domain (dial8-217.netcologne.de [195.14.235.217]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 986C114C07 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 15:11:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from van.woerkom@netcologne.de) Received: (from marc@localhost) by oranje.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.1) id AAA02101; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 00:10:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from van.woerkom@netcologne.de) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 00:10:54 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <199907062210.AAA02101@oranje.my.domain> X-Authentication-Warning: oranje.my.domain: marc set sender to van.woerkom@netcologne.de using -f From: Marc van Woerkom To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: ES1370 + ncr PCI SCSI Reply-To: van.woerkom@netcologne.de Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Is anyone here who uses an ES1370 based PCI sound card in a system with a ncr based PCI SCSI controler? I still experience massive problems under FreeBSD-4.0 current when SCSI devices and sound card are busy at the same time (eg xanim plus CVSup) - the ncr goes gaga after a while, hanging the system. If you have no problems this could indicate that it is not related to software, but rather to my hardware itself. Regards, Marc - Original Ensoniq Audio PCI - Asus SC200 PCI SCSI To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jul 6 15:32:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from gloria.cord.edu (gloria.cord.edu [138.129.254.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D33D314D46 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 15:32:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from twschulz@gloria.cord.edu) Received: from localhost (twschulz@localhost) by gloria.cord.edu (8.9.0/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA11635; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 17:32:06 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 17:32:06 -0500 (CDT) From: Trenton Schulz To: Marc van Woerkom Cc: jkh@zippy.cdrom.com, freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to actually link with GLX library? In-Reply-To: <199907062201.AAA02092@oranje.my.domain> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 7 Jul 1999, Marc van Woerkom wrote: > > See http://www.freebsdzine.org/199907/features/tnt.html - there's a > > complete step-by-step guide on using the Riva TNT with GLX. I have > > some familiarity with the URL. :) > > I am still using a plain RIVA 128 Diamond V330 card with my K6/300 (no AGP) > system. > > 1. Your article mentions RIVA TNT/TNT2 only, but I see RIVA 128/128ZX > patches too on the nvidia site > The patches work great on a Riva 128 PCI that I have. I'm sure they'd work just as well on a 128zx. The only problem you will run into is the amount of memory on the card. The glx faq at nvidia gives more info. > 2. Does it make sense to use some cheapo TNT or TNT2 card in my system > or should I wait for the next big hardware update (K7 + TNT2 successor..) > somewhere end of this year? I always think it's a waiting game for choosing to buy hardware. I'd say it's really up to you and how important graphic performance is for what you're doing. At the moment, even with its restrictions, the Riva128 works well for me though a TNT2 Ultra would probably really scream. -- Trenton Schulz twschulz@cord.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jul 6 16:33:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from alicia.nttmcl.com (alicia.nttmcl.com [216.69.69.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 934E514CFF for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 16:33:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cdoherty@nttmcl.com) Received: from bob by alicia.nttmcl.com (8.8.5/3.5W(96/10/22)) id QAA00296 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 16:33:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990707043219.007cae90@alicia.nttmcl.com> X-Sender: cdoherty@alicia.nttmcl.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 04:32:19 -0700 To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org From: Chris Doherty Subject: SB Vibra16: more joy and rapture Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi-- so I've gotten the card up and running, playing sound, recording and playing back sound for the most part (it's choppy and slow, but I also haven't looked into fixing it, so it's nothing to complain about yet). the first fun thing I found out is that while you can open it O_RDWR without an error, it doesn't work. :-) the next thing is a little more bothersome. for most of the ioctl() calls, it alters the 3rd argument, so that if you set the sample rate too high, it returns the highest possible rate in the 3rd argument. according to the OSS docs, if you try to set the card to an unsupported sound format (e.g. AFMT_S16_LE), it will/might return either something funky, or a supported format you can use. if it was successful, the 3rd argument should be left alone. here's what's happening: I called SNDCTL_DSP_GETFMTS and discovered that it allegedly supports AFMT_S16_LE. so I do the following (Ioctl() is just a wrapper function): int format = AFMT_S16_LE; Ioctl( fd, SNDCTL_DSP_SETFMT, &format ); at which point format == 0. disturbed, I then did Ioctl( fd, AFMT_QUERY, &format ); thinking I might get the current format; and ioctl() failed! is this a characteristic of SB cards? can I safely assume if ioctl() returns ok from SNDCTL_DSP_SETFMT, that the format has been set? if AFMT_QUERY doesn't work, I have no way of knowing if any of the other options work (AFMT_U8 didn't, really, or it did but the quality was insufferable). and SNDCTL_DSP_GETFMTS may have been lying as well. the card tested positive for AFMT_WEIRD; is this what that means? :-) Chris --------------- I don't speak for NTT MCL. I'm an intern. Chris Doherty cdoherty@nttmcl.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jul 6 16:36:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from alicia.nttmcl.com (alicia.nttmcl.com [216.69.69.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9D5015062 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 16:36:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cdoherty@nttmcl.com) Received: from bob by alicia.nttmcl.com (8.8.5/3.5W(96/10/22)) id QAA00351 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 16:36:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990707043539.007d4c20@alicia.nttmcl.com> X-Sender: cdoherty@alicia.nttmcl.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 04:35:39 -0700 To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org From: Chris Doherty Subject: Re: SB Vibra16: more joy and rapture In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990707043219.007cae90@alicia.nttmcl.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org you can disregard at least the part about AFMT_QUERY causing ioctl() to fail--I had a semantics error (I'm an idiot). but the current format is still returned as zero... Chris >so I've gotten the card up and running, playing sound, recording and >playing back sound for the most part (it's choppy and slow, but I also >haven't looked into fixing it, so it's nothing to complain about yet). --------------- I don't speak for NTT MCL. I'm an intern. Chris Doherty cdoherty@nttmcl.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jul 6 18:50:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A58DA150E5 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 18:50:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA04955; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 18:49:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: van.woerkom@netcologne.de Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to actually link with GLX library? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 07 Jul 1999 00:01:38 +0200." <199907062201.AAA02092@oranje.my.domain> Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 18:49:18 -0700 Message-ID: <4952.931312158@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I am still using a plain RIVA 128 Diamond V330 card with my K6/300 (no AGP) > system. Sorry, can't tell you anything about the Riva 128 - everything I hear about is TNT only. > 1. Your article mentions RIVA TNT/TNT2 only, but I see RIVA 128/128ZX > patches too on the nvidia site Let me know how they work. :) > 2. Does it make sense to use some cheapo TNT or TNT2 card in my system > or should I wait for the next big hardware update (K7 + TNT2 successor..) > somewhere end of this year? Seeing as how the TNT2 was just released, I don't expect you'll see another update for at least 3-6 months. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jul 6 22: 8:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from rina.naklab.dnj.ynu.ac.jp (rina.naklab.dnj.ynu.ac.jp [133.34.17.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B29914CA4; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 22:08:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tanimura@naklab.dnj.ynu.ac.jp) Received: from rina.naklab.dnj.ynu.ac.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rina.naklab.dnj.ynu.ac.jp (8.9.1a/3.7W-Naklab-2.1-19981120) with ESMTP id OAA61600; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 14:08:05 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199907070508.OAA61600@rina.naklab.dnj.ynu.ac.jp> To: utz@serv.net Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Seigo Tanimura Subject: Re: MPU401 now works under New Midi Driver Framework with a FineTimer From: Seigo Tanimura In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 6 Jul 1999 11:12:59 -0700 (PDT)" References: X-Mailer: Mew version 1.70 on Emacs 19.34.1 / Mule 2.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 14:08:04 +0900 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 6 Jul 1999 11:12:59 -0700 (PDT), The Utz Family said: utz> (perhaps it might be time to change the name of the patch subdir from utz> serial-midi to something else?) Definitely. The patches themselves are now 'newmidi-...' so I have s/freebsd-serialmidi/freebsd-newmidi/ed the URIs. (the old dir is symlinked, so it should not make a trouble) Seigo Tanimura To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 7 0:25: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from solaris.matti.ee (solaris.matti.ee [194.126.98.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 731C414BDE for ; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 00:24:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vallo@matti.ee) Received: from myhakas.matti.ee (myhakas.matti.ee [194.126.114.87]) by solaris.matti.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA11436; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 10:24:47 +0300 (EET DST) Received: by myhakas.matti.ee (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 85C3B1F82; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 10:24:45 +0300 (EEST) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 10:24:45 +0300 From: Vallo Kallaste To: Trenton Schulz Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to actually link with GLX library? Message-ID: <19990707102445.A24475@myhakas.matti.ee> Reply-To: vallo@matti.ee References: <19990706221203.A23182@myhakas.matti.ee> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: ; from Trenton Schulz on Tue, Jul 06, 1999 at 02:24:57PM -0500 Organization: =?iso-8859-1?Q?AS_Matti_B=FCrootehnika?= Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Jul 06, 1999 at 02:24:57PM -0500, Trenton Schulz wrote: > I assume you are talking about the nvidia glx module. Most OpenGL programs > for FreeBSD (the ones in the port tree) are linked against libMesaGL.so.* > If the application was linked against Mesa 3 all you need to is Link > libMesaGL.so.* to your new libGL.so.1 and you should be ready to go. I did > this and both xlock and battalion worked great (and real fast and pretty > too) It also worked for my graphics projects from school. I'm talking about g200 glx module, the card is G200 SD with 8MB of memory. Actually I tried to change the symlink but after executing xlock -inwindow -mode morph3d got total hang. Seems that changing symlink isn't enough, yes all references say it is enough... -- Vallo Kallaste vallo@matti.ee To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 7 2:55:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from degnet.de (degnet.de [194.95.214.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BB1414C8D for ; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 02:55:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from malte.lance@gmx.net) Received: from neuron.webmore.prv (login09.intranet.degnet.de [172.24.1.18]) by degnet.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id LAA19901; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 11:55:02 +0200 Received: from neuron.webmore.prv (neuron.webmore.prv "Malte Lance") by neuron.webmore.prv (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA01524; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 11:10:59 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <199907070910.LAA01524@neuron.webmore.prv> Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 11:10:57 +0200 (CEST) From: Malte Lance Reply-To: malte.lance@gmx.net Subject: Re: How to actually link with GLX library? To: vallo@matti.ee Cc: twschulz@gloria.cord.edu, freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19990707102445.A24475@myhakas.matti.ee> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 7 Jul, Vallo Kallaste wrote: > I'm talking about g200 glx module, the card is G200 SD with 8MB of > memory. Actually I tried to change the symlink but after executing xlock > -inwindow -mode morph3d got total hang. Seems that changing symlink > isn't enough, yes all references say it is enough... When installing g200-glx you got ligGL.so.* Linking should be done with "-lGL" instead of "-lMesaGL". Maybe you have to recompile the whole xlock-port with the mentioned change. I don't know xlock, but have you tried the apps in Mesa-3.?/demos ? Are there any error-messages when starting the app ? Do you get the "@@Created GLX Context.." message ? Malte. -- Malte Lance. --- composed with TkRat To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 7 3:27: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk [130.159.196.126]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F63714DC6 for ; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 03:26:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roger@cs.strath.ac.uk) Received: from muir-10 (roger@muir-10.cs.strath.ac.uk [130.159.148.10]) by fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA04604 Wed, 7 Jul 1999 11:20:02 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <378329D1.794B@cs.strath.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 11:20:01 +0100 From: Roger Hardiman Organization: University of Strathclyde X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (X11; I; OSF1 V4.0 alpha) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Guy Lateur Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Which bt-card to buy? References: <3781D33A.C9B15616@mri2.rug.ac.be> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Guy Lateur wrote: > > As I'm planning on buying a video-acquisition card, I was wondering if > there are known (major) differences between the various brands. The main differeces are our support for the TV Tuner and the Audio from the TV Tuner. For some cards, you'll get no audio at all from the TV Tuner because we do not know the specific details of the hardware on the card. However, the card I would recomend right now would be one from Hauppauge. I hate to recommend one brand over the other, but I like Hauppauge cards because.... a) I have direct email to Hauppauge engineers who supply me with all the technical specs I need. b) For those of us that Dual Boot, they always have good Win 95,98 and NT drivers > Some general performance estimates (fps / resolution) for On FreeBSD with XFree86, you can expect the full 25fps (PAL) 768x576 or 30fps (NTSC) 640x480. Bye Roger To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 7 3:32:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from news-ma.rhein-neckar.de (news-ma.rhein-neckar.de [193.197.90.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46DB914F62 for ; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 03:32:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de) Received: from mips.rhein-neckar.de (uucp@localhost) by news-ma.rhein-neckar.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with bsmtp id MAA07349 for freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 12:32:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de) Received: by mips.rhein-neckar.de id m111ofh-000WyZC (Debian Smail-3.2.0.101 1997-Dec-17 #2); Wed, 7 Jul 1999 12:11:21 +0200 (CEST) From: naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de (Christian Weisgerber) Subject: Re: ES1370 + ncr PCI SCSI Date: 7 Jul 1999 12:11:18 +0200 Message-ID: <7lv946$n55$1@mips.rhein-neckar.de> References: <199907062210.AAA02101@oranje.my.domain> To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Marc van Woerkom wrote: > Is anyone here who uses an ES1370 based PCI sound card in > a system with a ncr based PCI SCSI controler? I do. > I still experience massive problems under FreeBSD-4.0 current > when SCSI devices and sound card are busy at the same time > (eg xanim plus CVSup) - the ncr goes gaga after a while, hanging > the system. Now, that is interesting. For me, "tosha -o - | pcmplay -" sooner or later hangs my sound card. No more sound, further writes to /dev/audio block after apparently filling a ~120kB buffer. > - Original Ensoniq Audio PCI > - Asus SC200 PCI SCSI - Soundblaster PCI 64 (which I gather is a relabeled Ensoniq Audio PCI) - Asus SC200 SCSI adapter -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de See another pointless homepage at . To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 7 3:49:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from freebsd.dk (freebsd.dk [212.242.42.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE6B414F62 for ; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 03:49:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sos@freebsd.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by freebsd.dk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA50864; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 12:47:43 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from sos) From: Soren Schmidt Message-Id: <199907071047.MAA50864@freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: Which bt-card to buy? In-Reply-To: <378329D1.794B@cs.strath.ac.uk> from Roger Hardiman at "Jul 7, 1999 11:20: 1 am" To: roger@cs.strath.ac.uk (Roger Hardiman) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 12:47:43 +0200 (CEST) Cc: glateur@mri2.rug.ac.be, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org It seems Roger Hardiman wrote: > Guy Lateur wrote: > > > > As I'm planning on buying a video-acquisition card, I was wondering if > > there are known (major) differences between the various brands. > > The main differeces are our support for the TV Tuner and > the Audio from the TV Tuner. > For some cards, you'll get no audio at all from the TV Tuner because > we do not know the specific details of the hardware on the card. > > > However, the card I would recomend right now would be one from > Hauppauge. > > I hate to recommend one brand over the other, but I like > Hauppauge cards because.... > > a) I have direct email to Hauppauge engineers who supply me with > all the technical specs I need. > > b) For those of us that Dual Boot, they always have good > Win 95,98 and NT drivers Well, just to be a pain I would also recommend the ATI line of cards, fx the ATI All-in-wonder-PRO, which is a ATI RagePRO based videocard with 8M video memory + tuner & texttv decoder, it does also have TV-out so you can hook up your TV or VCR to it, its about US$120 or so retail.. You can also get a seperate tunercard and hook that to an existing ATI graphics card. The only drawback is that it doesn't work with other than ATI video cards... Also it doesn't work with the bt drivers instead you use the GATOS userland program to control it (I have a port of that for -current). > > Some general performance estimates (fps / resolution) for > On FreeBSD with XFree86, you can expect the full 25fps (PAL) > 768x576 or 30fps (NTSC) 640x480. Well, this is where the ATI approach shines, since the tuner is on the videocard the data doesn't bug down the PCI bus, it does everything up to fullscreen TV with no framerate limit, and it doesn't slow your machines to a halt while doing it... Just my 0.25Dkr :) -Søren To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 7 4:17:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from freebsd.dk (freebsd.dk [212.242.42.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9620014E91 for ; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 04:17:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sos@freebsd.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by freebsd.dk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA57335; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 13:16:08 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from sos) From: Soren Schmidt Message-Id: <199907071116.NAA57335@freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: Which bt-card to buy? In-Reply-To: <3783361F.FF6@cs.strath.ac.uk> from Roger Hardiman at "Jul 7, 1999 12:12:31 pm" To: roger@cs.strath.ac.uk (Roger Hardiman) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 13:16:08 +0200 (CEST) Cc: glateur@mri2.rug.ac.be, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org It seems Roger Hardiman wrote: > Soren, > > > Well, just to be a pain I would also recommend the ATI line of cards, > > fx the ATI All-in-wonder-PRO, which is a ATI RagePRO based videocard > > with 8M video memory + tuner & texttv decoder, it does also have > > TV-out so you can hook up your TV or VCR to it, its about US$120 or > > so retail.. > > > If you do not want to capture video, then the ATI card is a good > option. Huh?? I can capture video all I like with my ATI setup, but then I'm limitted with what my system can cope with over the PCI bus, or rather ultimately by how fast my disk subsystem is :) I've done several captures in full size PAL, works just dandy.... -Søren To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 7 4:19:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk [130.159.196.126]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B8DE14C2E for ; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 04:19:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roger@cs.strath.ac.uk) Received: from muir-10 (roger@muir-10.cs.strath.ac.uk [130.159.148.10]) by fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA05330 Wed, 7 Jul 1999 12:12:31 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <3783361F.FF6@cs.strath.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 12:12:31 +0100 From: Roger Hardiman Organization: University of Strathclyde X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (X11; I; OSF1 V4.0 alpha) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Soren Schmidt Cc: glateur@mri2.rug.ac.be, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Which bt-card to buy? References: <199907071047.MAA50864@freebsd.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Soren, > Well, just to be a pain I would also recommend the ATI line of cards, > fx the ATI All-in-wonder-PRO, which is a ATI RagePRO based videocard > with 8M video memory + tuner & texttv decoder, it does also have > TV-out so you can hook up your TV or VCR to it, its about US$120 or > so retail.. If you do not want to capture video, then the ATI card is a good option. Bye Roger To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 7 4:28:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk [130.159.196.126]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41F1414F5A for ; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 04:28:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roger@cs.strath.ac.uk) Received: from muir-10 (roger@muir-10.cs.strath.ac.uk [130.159.148.10]) by fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA05498 Wed, 7 Jul 1999 12:21:22 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <37833831.31DF@cs.strath.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 12:21:21 +0100 From: Roger Hardiman Organization: University of Strathclyde X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (X11; I; OSF1 V4.0 alpha) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Soren Schmidt Cc: glateur@mri2.rug.ac.be, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Which bt-card to buy? References: <199907071116.NAA57335@freebsd.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Soren > > If you do not want to capture video, then the ATI card is a good > > option. > > Huh?? I can capture video all I like with my ATI setup Sorry. I thought there was no video capture option with the ATI card. The ATI card sounds rather good then. Bye Roger To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 7 4:28:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from freebsd.dk (freebsd.dk [212.242.42.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 140CC15480 for ; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 04:28:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sos@freebsd.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by freebsd.dk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA59864; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 13:27:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from sos) From: Soren Schmidt Message-Id: <199907071127.NAA59864@freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: Which bt-card to buy? In-Reply-To: <37833831.31DF@cs.strath.ac.uk> from Roger Hardiman at "Jul 7, 1999 12:21:21 pm" To: roger@cs.strath.ac.uk (Roger Hardiman) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 13:27:06 +0200 (CEST) Cc: glateur@mri2.rug.ac.be, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org It seems Roger Hardiman wrote: > Soren > > > > If you do not want to capture video, then the ATI card is a good > > > option. > > > > Huh?? I can capture video all I like with my ATI setup > > Sorry. > I thought there was no video capture option with the ATI card. Well, there you are :), I can even watch the video I'm capturing, IIRC the bt based setup disables onscreen video when capturing probably due to having enough bus bandwidth.. > The ATI card sounds rather good then. I think so, the only problem I have with it, is that is limitted to ATI HW only, but what the heck, the do pretty decent videocards and they are well supported under XFree86, and if you go with the All in wonder cards you only use ONE precious slot (AGP|PCI) .... -Søren To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 7 4:36:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from qn-lpr2-98.quicknet.inet.fi (qn-lpr2-165.quicknet.inet.fi [194.251.102.165]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A12014DE2 for ; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 04:36:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from junki@qn-lpr2-165.quicknet.inet.fi) Received: from localhost (junki@localhost) by qn-lpr2-98.quicknet.inet.fi (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA10577 for ; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 14:36:13 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from junki@qn-lpr2-165.quicknet.inet.fi) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 14:36:12 +0300 (EEST) From: Juha Nurmela X-Sender: junki@pena.oh5nxo.ampr.org Reply-To: Juha.Nurmela@quicknet.inet.fi To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Which bt-card to buy? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Huh?? I can capture video all I like with my ATI setup, but then I'm > limitted with what my system can cope with over the PCI bus, or rather > ultimately by how fast my disk subsystem is :) To the line of defence for the Hauppauge, and to praise S=F8ren's=20 atadisk, dd from /dev/rad0c to /dev/null does not suffer a single byte/sec from viewing 768x576 PAL in X. Just the same ~10MB/s (no UDMA). Not quite sure how this ranks in Euro... 0.01 EUR ? Juha To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 7 4:48: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from darau.kada.lan (ns1.kada.lt [195.22.170.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B708114F8D for ; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 04:47:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dara@kada.lt) Received: from kada.lt (localhost.kada.lan [127.0.0.1]) by darau.kada.lan (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA05103 for ; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 13:53:29 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from dara@kada.lt) Message-ID: <37833FB5.1EE70AE8@kada.lt> Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 13:53:26 +0200 From: Darius Ramanauskas X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: lt, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: pcm and Quake2 HELP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello All, have anybody working sound under Quake2 with pcm driver? uname -a FreeBSD darau.kada.lan 3.2-STABLE FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE #2: Tue Jun 8 16:27:30 CEST 1999 /dev/sndstat FreeBSD Audio Driver (981002) Jun 4 1999 09:43:53 Installed devices: pcm1: at 0x530 irq 5 dma 1:0 sequencer1: at 0x388 (not functional) Thank You. Darius To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 7 4:52:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from solaris.matti.ee (solaris.matti.ee [194.126.98.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F31BB14DBE for ; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 04:52:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vallo@matti.ee) Received: from myhakas.matti.ee (myhakas.matti.ee [194.126.114.87]) by solaris.matti.ee (8.8.8/8.8.8.s) with ESMTP id OAA22023; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 14:52:42 +0300 (EET DST) Received: by myhakas.matti.ee (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A74131F84; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 14:52:41 +0300 (EEST) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 14:52:41 +0300 From: Vallo Kallaste To: Malte Lance Cc: twschulz@gloria.cord.edu, freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to actually link with GLX library? Message-ID: <19990707145241.A30898@myhakas.matti.ee> Reply-To: vallo@matti.ee References: <19990707102445.A24475@myhakas.matti.ee> <199907070910.LAA01524@neuron.webmore.prv> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <199907070910.LAA01524@neuron.webmore.prv>; from Malte Lance on Wed, Jul 07, 1999 at 11:10:57AM +0200 Organization: =?iso-8859-1?Q?AS_Matti_B=FCrootehnika?= Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Jul 07, 1999 at 11:10:57AM +0200, Malte Lance wrote: > When installing g200-glx you got ligGL.so.* > Linking should be done with "-lGL" instead of "-lMesaGL". Maybe you > have to recompile the whole xlock-port with the mentioned change. I > don't know xlock, but have you tried the apps in Mesa-3.?/demos ? > Are there any error-messages when starting the app ? Do you get the > "@@Created GLX Context.." message ? Yes, I see the "Created GLX Context.." message, also the image appears in the xlock window but that's all. The X server eats 98% of processor time and X session hangs, also I can't switch to the console. Machine otherwise is alive, I can ping and ssh in etc. The X server is SVGA with truetype addon or how to say. Got it from Stephen Montgomery webpage about two months ago. Mesa version is 3.0 from ports, the MesaCVS also compiled cleanly so I can try this as last resort. I tried that -lGL switch to gcc but it generates bunch of errors for either Mesademos or xlock (xscreensaver). I'm going to try original SVGA server from 3.3.3.1 release and MesaCVS. Any suggestions? Thanks -- Vallo Kallaste vallo@matti.ee To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 7 6:41:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AF49615004 for ; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 06:41:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id NAA25152; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 13:11:20 +0200 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199907071111.NAA25152@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: pcm and Quake2 HELP To: dara@kada.lt (Darius Ramanauskas) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 13:11:19 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <37833FB5.1EE70AE8@kada.lt> from "Darius Ramanauskas" at Jul 7, 99 01:53:07 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 718 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Hello All, > > have anybody working sound under Quake2 with pcm driver? no, some calls used by quake are not implemented in the pcm driver and you are welcome to sacrifice a few hours|days of hard quake playing and implement them :) cheers luigi -----------------------------------+------------------------------------- Luigi RIZZO, luigi@iet.unipi.it . Dip. di Ing. dell'Informazione http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ . Universita` di Pisa TEL/FAX: +39-050-568.533/522 . via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ngc99/ ==== First International Workshop on Networked Group Communication ==== -----------------------------------+------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 7 6:59: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from degnet.de (degnet.de [194.95.214.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CFFD15004 for ; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 06:58:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from malte.lance@gmx.net) Received: from neuron.webmore.prv (login15.intranet.degnet.de [172.24.1.24]) by degnet.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id PAA23972; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 15:58:45 +0200 Received: from neuron.webmore.prv (neuron.webmore.prv "Malte Lance") by neuron.webmore.prv (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA02540; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 15:55:54 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <199907071355.PAA02540@neuron.webmore.prv> Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 15:55:52 +0200 (CEST) From: Malte Lance Reply-To: malte.lance@gmx.net Subject: Re: How to actually link with GLX library? To: vallo@matti.ee Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19990707145241.A30898@myhakas.matti.ee> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 7 Jul, Vallo Kallaste wrote: > On Wed, Jul 07, 1999 at 11:10:57AM +0200, Malte Lance wrote: > >> When installing g200-glx you got ligGL.so.* >> Linking should be done with "-lGL" instead of "-lMesaGL". Maybe you >> have to recompile the whole xlock-port with the mentioned change. I >> don't know xlock, but have you tried the apps in Mesa-3.?/demos ? >> Are there any error-messages when starting the app ? Do you get the >> "@@Created GLX Context.." message ? > > Yes, I see the "Created GLX Context.." message, also the image appears > in the xlock window but that's all. The X server eats 98% of processor > time and X session hangs, also I can't switch to the console. Machine > otherwise is alive, I can ping and ssh in etc. The X server is SVGA with > truetype addon or how to say. Got it from Stephen Montgomery webpage > about two months ago. Mesa version is 3.0 from ports, the MesaCVS also > compiled cleanly so I can try this as last resort. Maybe you want to have a look at http://www.on.openprojects.net/glx/ That's the homeplace of the glx-lib and glx-module for g200 and nvidia. There you can checkout the CVS-tree of glx and it should compile out of the box with FreeBSD-3.x > I tried that -lGL switch to gcc but it generates bunch of errors for > either Mesademos or xlock (xscreensaver). So do you have the libGL.so.* installed in a place searchable by the linker ? > I'm going to try original SVGA > server from 3.3.3.1 release and MesaCVS. Any suggestions? Yes: 1. Install the CVS-version of glx for g200 (module and library) 2. Get the stink-normal SVGA-server from XFree86 3. Install Mesa-CVS 4. change the "-lMesaGL" to "-lGL" in the Makefile in Mesa-3.?/demos recompile the demos 5. Change your /etc/XF86Config to load the glx-module 6. Restart your X-Server 7. That's it. Malte. > > Thanks -- Malte Lance. --- composed with TkRat To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 7 13: 2: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from dslab7.cs.uit.no (dslab7.cs.UiT.No [129.242.16.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BFF6150B2 for ; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 13:01:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from frodef@dslab7.cs.uit.no) Received: (from frodef@localhost) by dslab7.cs.uit.no (8.9.3/8.9.1) id VAA08947; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 21:59:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from frodef) To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: libtuner From: Frode Vatvedt Fjeld Date: 07 Jul 1999 21:59:36 +0200 Message-ID: <2hvhbwtemv.fsf@dslab7.cs.uit.no> Lines: 64 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070092 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.92) Emacs/20.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi again, I thought I'd let those interested know how libtuner is progressing. I'm mostly working on the file-format, so I guess the simple thing to do is to show you an example. It's rather lisp-ish, as you can see.. ===snip=== (define-freq-set western-europe-basic ((name "Western Europe (basic)") (continent "Europe") (type cable)) ((freq "E2" 4825) (freq "E3" 5525) (freq "E4" 6225) (irange "E" 5 12 17525 700) (arange "I" "A" "C" 4575 800) (irange "S0" 1 3 6925 700) (irange "S" 1 20 10525 700) ; (include western-europe-extra) (irange "E" 21 69 47125 800))) (define-freq-set western-europe-extra ((name "Western Europe (extras)") (continent "Europe") (type cable)) ((irange "S" 21 41 30325 800) (freq "ITA" 5375) (freq "S29" 5375) (arange "IT" "B" "C" 6225 2000) ; (include western-europe) (freq "ITD" 17525) (arange "IT" "E" "H" 18325 900))) (define-freq-set western-europe ((name "Western Europe") (continent "Europe") (type cable)) ((include western-europe-basic) (include western-europe-extra) (freq "IFFREQ" 3890) (include western-europe) (freq "S29" 53234))) ===snip=== So, this all deals with mapping from frequency-names to frequencies. Each freq-set consists of some attributes (to help users find "their" freq-set) and a set of mappings. Mappings can be specified directly with the "freq"-keyword, or as an integer or ascii range. "(irange "S0" 1 3 6925 700)" translates to the mappings "S01"=>6925, "S02"=>7625, "S03"=>8325. Additionally, a freq-set can include the mappings from another freq-set. Please cry out if you think this is all wrong. -- Frode Vatvedt Fjeld To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 7 14:30:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from oranje.my.domain (dial8-207.netcologne.de [195.14.235.207]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A18451506C for ; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 14:30:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from van.woerkom@netcologne.de) Received: (from marc@localhost) by oranje.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.1) id XAA06962; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 23:30:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from van.woerkom@netcologne.de) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 23:30:15 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <199907072130.XAA06962@oranje.my.domain> X-Authentication-Warning: oranje.my.domain: marc set sender to van.woerkom@netcologne.de using -f From: Marc van Woerkom To: naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <7lv946$n55$1@mips.rhein-neckar.de> (naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de) Subject: Re: ES1370 + ncr PCI SCSI Reply-To: van.woerkom@netcologne.de References: <199907062210.AAA02101@oranje.my.domain> <7lv946$n55$1@mips.rhein-neckar.de> Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Now, that is interesting. For me, "tosha -o - | pcmplay -" sooner or > later hangs my sound card. No more sound, further writes to /dev/audio > block after apparently filling a ~120kB buffer. I could live with sound gone, but with disks gone the system hangs.. :) > - Soundblaster PCI 64 > (which I gather is a relabeled Ensoniq Audio PCI) Not quite. The PCI 128 is supposed to be closest to the original Audio PCI. The Ensoniq PCI cards consist of two chips, a controler chip (ES 1370, 1371) and a digital to analog converter (DAC) chip. AFAIK does the PCI 64 use a cheaper DAC than the PCI 128 and the orginial AudioPCI. ES 1371 are a different story, they seem to be able to use an even wider range of DACs that have to comply to some Intel spec. Hmm.. still don't know if it is hardware or driver related. Stefan Esser (an expert on FreeBSD's PCI architecture whom I bugged about this problem) conjectures that the ES1370 driver is a bit too possessive regarding the bus resources. The only fishy thing in my system I can imagine is that I run 192 MB RAM on a Gigabyte S2 board that has cache tag RAM for only 128 MB. Regards, Marc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 7 15:35:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from m4.stox.sa.enteract.com (dyn1-tnt6-101.chicago.il.ameritech.net [199.179.167.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C042414BFC for ; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 15:35:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ken@stox.sa.enteract.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.stox.sa.enteract.com [127.0.0.1]) by m4.stox.sa.enteract.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA17449; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 17:35:04 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from ken@stox.sa.enteract.com) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 17:35:04 -0500 (CDT) From: "Kenneth P. Stox" Reply-To: stox@enteract.com To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: van.woerkom@netcologne.de, freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to actually link with GLX library? In-Reply-To: <4952.931312158@zippy.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 6 Jul 1999, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > I am still using a plain RIVA 128 Diamond V330 card with my K6/300 (no AGP) > > system. > > Sorry, can't tell you anything about the Riva 128 - everything I hear > about is TNT only. I can, both the Riva 128 and 128ZX work fine. Memory is an issue on the 4MB 128's if you want high resolution. I haven't tried it on a 128 I have that has 8MB, yet. -Ken Stox stox@enteract.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 7 15:55:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from twwells.com (twwells.com [209.118.236.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8A65914BFC for ; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 15:54:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bill@twwells.com) Received: from bill by twwells.com with local (Exim 1.71 #2) id 1120af-0007V6-00; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 18:54:57 -0400 Subject: this probably should be documented To: multimedia@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 18:54:57 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 825 Message-Id: From: "T. William Wells" Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have a sound card, identified as: Vendor ID CTL00f0 (0xf0008c0e), Serial Number 0xffffffff PnP Version 1.0, Vendor Version 16 Device Description: Creative ViBRA16X PnP The pcm driver doc (in isa/snd) *does* say that neither capture nor full duplex mode is supported for this card. However, man pcm does not say this -- it only reports that full duplex mode is not supported. (In fact, capture does not work.) In addition, it does not appear to be possible to use this card with the sb driver; everything I've tried has resulted in timeouts or a failure to recognize the device at all. If the thing isn't supported, this probably should be noted. Anyway, if this card *is* supported and I'm confused, I'd appreciate hearing it. If not, someone there can send in the problem report or, if you'd rather, I can send it in. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Jul 8 1: 7:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mhub1.lvs.dupont.com (mhub1.lvs.dupont.com [206.241.18.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0008B14C93 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 01:07:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Paolo.Testori@ITA.dupont.com) Received: from mhub8.bhg.dupont.com by mhub1.lvs.dupont.com with ESMTP; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 04:07:28 -0400 Received: from euoisc.nib.dupont.com by mhub8.bhg.dupont.com; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 10:07:17 +0200 Received: from testorp ([52.171.45.3]) by euoisc.nib.dupont.com with SMTP for multimedia@freebsd.org; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 10:07:04 +0200 Message-Id: <000801bec919$b3818d90$032dab34@mil.dupont.com> From: "Paolo TESTORI" To: Subject: FreeBSD 3.2 and Crystal Audio CS32ba11 Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 10:13:00 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01BEC92A.756930B0" X-Priority: 1 X-MSMail-Priority: High X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BEC92A.756930B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, who can help with the setup of my Dell Latitude CP laptop and it's = sound card. 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Hello,
    who can help with the setup of my = Dell=20 Latitude CP laptop and it's sound card.
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BEC92A.756930B0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Jul 8 1:30:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id ED3B314E8D for ; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 01:30:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id IAA27601; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 08:00:14 +0200 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199907080600.IAA27601@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: FreeBSD 3.2 and Crystal Audio CS32ba11 To: Paolo.Testori@ITA.dupont.com (Paolo TESTORI) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 08:00:13 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <000801bec919$b3818d90$032dab34@mil.dupont.com> from "Paolo TESTORI" at Jul 8, 99 10:12:41 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1385 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Hello, > who can help with the setup of my Dell Latitude CP laptop and it's = > sound card. most people have found that using device pcm0 at isa? tty port 0x52c ... (i.e. 0x52c instead of 0x530) does the job. IRQ and DRQ you should get from the Windows config (maybe irq 5, drq 1, flags 0x10 works). cheers luigi > I cann't get it to work. > > Thanks for all the help you can give. > > ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BEC92A.756930B0 > Content-Type: text/html; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > http-equiv=3DContent-Type> > > > > >
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    who can help with the setup of my = > Dell=20 > Latitude CP laptop and it's sound card.
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> > ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BEC92A.756930B0-- > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Jul 8 5:48:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from thelab.hub.org (nat195.34.mpoweredpc.net [142.177.195.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16E9514EE0 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 05:48:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by thelab.hub.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA29523 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 09:48:53 -0300 (ADT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) X-Authentication-Warning: thelab.hub.org: scrappy owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 09:48:52 -0300 (ADT) From: The Hermit Hacker To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: QuickTime: Anyone doing anything with this? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Just got this from one of my co-workers: http://www.apple.com/pr/library/1999/jul/07qt.html Wonder if anyone has/is looking at this already as far as FreeBSD is concerned? Marc G. Fournier ICQ#7615664 IRC Nick: Scrappy Systems Administrator @ hub.org primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Jul 8 13:28:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from solaris.matti.ee (solaris.matti.ee [194.126.98.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EB5B151A3 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 13:28:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vallo@matti.ee) Received: from myhakas.matti.ee (myhakas.matti.ee [194.126.114.87]) by solaris.matti.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA01912; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 23:28:06 +0300 (EET DST) Received: by myhakas.matti.ee (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7E1C91FA8; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 23:28:07 +0300 (EEST) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 23:28:07 +0300 From: Vallo Kallaste To: Vallo Kallaste Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to actually link with GLX library? Message-ID: <19990708232807.A13376@myhakas.matti.ee> Reply-To: vallo@matti.ee References: <19990706221203.A23182@myhakas.matti.ee> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990706221203.A23182@myhakas.matti.ee>; from Vallo Kallaste on Tue, Jul 06, 1999 at 10:12:03PM +0300 Organization: =?iso-8859-1?Q?AS_Matti_B=FCrootehnika?= Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Jul 06, 1999 at 10:12:03PM +0300, Vallo Kallaste wrote: > in ldconfig output. Now the question is how I can relink some > applications or demos to see the real thing.. I will like to see the > xlockmore linked against libGL.so.1 so I can run some nice screensavers. > I don't have enough knowledge to do this, so please.. :-) Got it working, compiled the XFree distribution from ports then recompiled Mesa and GLX and voila! Now what bugs me is that I have 21" monitor and 1024x768 at 16bpp isn't very wonderful.. but rendering is very slow at 1600x1200 at 32bpp. Does the additional memory help? I can spend some money for another 8MB if it helps really. Does anybody have real experience in this case? Thanks -- Vallo Kallaste vallo@matti.ee To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Jul 9 0:38:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from not.demophon.com (ns.demophon.com [193.65.70.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 124B514DA6 for ; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 00:38:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from will@not.demophon.com) Received: (from will@localhost) by not.demophon.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) id KAA01289; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 10:33:11 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from will) To: vallo@matti.ee Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to actually link with GLX library? References: <19990706221203.A23182@myhakas.matti.ee> <19990708232807.A13376@myhakas.matti.ee.newsgate.clinet.fi> From: Ville-Pertti Keinonen Date: 09 Jul 1999 10:33:10 +0300 In-Reply-To: Vallo Kallaste's message of "8 Jul 1999 23:28:42 +0300" Message-ID: <86lncqjn0p.fsf@not.demophon.com> Lines: 27 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/XEmacs 20.4 - "Emerald" Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Vallo Kallaste writes: > Got it working, compiled the XFree distribution from ports then recompiled > Mesa and GLX and voila! Now what bugs me is that I have 21" monitor and > 1024x768 at 16bpp isn't very wonderful.. but rendering is very slow at > 1600x1200 at 32bpp. Does the additional memory help? I can spend some > money for another 8MB if it helps really. Does anybody have real > experience in this case? I haven't tried with more memory, but the slow performance of 1600x1200 at 32bpp is certainly caused by the lack of memory. As long as you aren't limited by pixel bandwidth, 32-bit rendering should be faster than 16-bit rendering (no dithering required). In some cases, slow performance could be caused by bus saturation by the display fetch on cards with SDRAM (s.a. the PCI version of Millennium G200), but I don't believe this is the case with these cards (judging from the slight visible noise caused by large blits at 1600x1200 32bpp on my PCI G200 card, display fetch does not have a higher priority on the bus than graphics ops). However, buying more memory might not help automatically. IIRC, XFree86 does not automatically detect more memory than 8MB (you should be able to fix this in the configuration, though), and the GLX driver developers have not tested with more than 8MB (obviously if it didn't work that would be a bug and could be fixed). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Jul 9 0:54:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B81E414DA6 for ; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 00:54:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (herring.nlsystems.com [10.0.0.2]) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA57741; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 08:54:34 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 08:54:33 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: Vallo Kallaste Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to actually link with GLX library? In-Reply-To: <19990708232807.A13376@myhakas.matti.ee> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 8 Jul 1999, Vallo Kallaste wrote: > On Tue, Jul 06, 1999 at 10:12:03PM +0300, Vallo Kallaste wrote: > > > in ldconfig output. Now the question is how I can relink some > > applications or demos to see the real thing.. I will like to see the > > xlockmore linked against libGL.so.1 so I can run some nice screensavers. > > I don't have enough knowledge to do this, so please.. :-) > > Got it working, compiled the XFree distribution from ports then recompiled > Mesa and GLX and voila! Now what bugs me is that I have 21" monitor and > 1024x768 at 16bpp isn't very wonderful.. but rendering is very slow at > 1600x1200 at 32bpp. Does the additional memory help? I can spend some > money for another 8MB if it helps really. Does anybody have real > experience in this case? I thought that this driver only worked in 16bpp. Try changing to 1600x1200 at 16bpp. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Jul 9 1:44:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from not.demophon.com (ns.demophon.com [193.65.70.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BD1614DD6 for ; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 01:44:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from will@not.demophon.com) Received: (from will@localhost) by not.demophon.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) id LAA01402; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 11:39:49 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from will) To: Doug Rabson Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org, vallo@matti.ee Subject: Re: How to actually link with GLX library? References: From: Ville-Pertti Keinonen Date: 09 Jul 1999 11:39:49 +0300 In-Reply-To: Doug Rabson's message of "9 Jul 1999 10:55:07 +0300" Message-ID: <86g12yjjxm.fsf@not.demophon.com> Lines: 8 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/XEmacs 20.4 - "Emerald" Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Doug Rabson writes: > I thought that this driver only worked in 16bpp. Try changing to 1600x1200 > at 16bpp. Not true, it works in 16bpp or 32bpp. Just not indexed colors (which are poorly suited for most kinds of 3d work, in any case). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Jul 9 2: 1:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from solaris.matti.ee (solaris.matti.ee [194.126.98.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6481E14E00 for ; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 02:01:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vallo@matti.ee) Received: from myhakas.matti.ee (myhakas.matti.ee [194.126.114.87]) by solaris.matti.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA02425; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 12:01:16 +0300 (EET DST) Received: by myhakas.matti.ee (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 651FB1F93; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 12:01:18 +0300 (EEST) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 12:01:18 +0300 From: Vallo Kallaste To: Doug Rabson Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, Ville-Pertti Keinonen Subject: Re: How to actually link with GLX library? Message-ID: <19990709120118.A15048@myhakas.matti.ee> Reply-To: vallo@matti.ee References: <19990708232807.A13376@myhakas.matti.ee> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: ; from Doug Rabson on Fri, Jul 09, 1999 at 08:54:33AM +0100 Organization: =?iso-8859-1?Q?AS_Matti_B=FCrootehnika?= Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Jul 09, 1999 at 08:54:33AM +0100, Doug Rabson wrote: > > 1600x1200 at 32bpp. Does the additional memory help? I can spend some > > money for another 8MB if it helps really. Does anybody have real > > experience in this case? > > I thought that this driver only worked in 16bpp. Try changing to 1600x1200 > at 16bpp. Now it works better but is far away from perfection. The frame rate difference is practically visible, at least for lament and moebius (the lament is really nice :-) I probably stick to 1280x1024@16bpp at the moment and try to compile truetype support into SVGA server. The latter seems to be quite heavy exercise for me but at least I give it a try. Thanks to everybody and Matrox for releasing programming materials. -- Vallo Kallaste vallo@matti.ee To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Jul 9 5: 1: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from solaris.matti.ee (solaris.matti.ee [194.126.98.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6545614C03 for ; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 05:00:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vallo@matti.ee) Received: from myhakas.matti.ee (myhakas.matti.ee [194.126.114.87]) by solaris.matti.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA09173; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 15:00:45 +0300 (EET DST) Received: by myhakas.matti.ee (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4C7D21F93; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 15:00:48 +0300 (EEST) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 15:00:48 +0300 From: Vallo Kallaste To: Ville-Pertti Keinonen Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, Doug Rabson Subject: Re: How to actually link with GLX library? Message-ID: <19990709150048.A15734@myhakas.matti.ee> Reply-To: vallo@matti.ee References: <19990706221203.A23182@myhakas.matti.ee> <19990708232807.A13376@myhakas.matti.ee.newsgate.clinet.fi> <86lncqjn0p.fsf@not.demophon.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <86lncqjn0p.fsf@not.demophon.com>; from Ville-Pertti Keinonen on Fri, Jul 09, 1999 at 10:33:10AM +0300 Organization: =?iso-8859-1?Q?AS_Matti_B=FCrootehnika?= Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Jul 09, 1999 at 10:33:10AM +0300, Ville-Pertti Keinonen wrote: > However, buying more memory might not help automatically. IIRC, > be able to fix this in the configuration, though), and the GLX driver > developers have not tested with more than 8MB (obviously if it didn't > work that would be a bug and could be fixed). I've just read about pseudoDMA on the address http://glx.on.openprojects.net/faq.html and noticed that my glx module reports pseudoDMA. Here are the lines the module reports: Initializing logs [g200] virtual (x, y) (1152, 864) [g200] width: 1152 [g200] depth: 16 [g200] memBase: 0x28533000 [g200] videoRam: 0x00002000 [g200] Detected 0x521 Chip ID [g200] Memory heap 0x83242a0: [g200] Offset:00000000, Size:001e6000, UR [g200] Offset:001e6000, Size:00048000, UR [g200] Offset:0022e000, Size:005d1c00, .. [g200] Offset:007ffc00, Size:00000400, UR [g200] End of memory blocks [g200] unlikely GLX_G200_DMAADR=0, skipping physical allocation [g200] pseudoDmaPhysical : 0xe1000000 [g200] pseudoDmaVirtual : 0x28d33000 [g200] mgaDmaInit: GLX_G200_DMA = 0 [g200] defaulting to GLX_G200_CMDSIZE = 4 [g200] allocated 0x400000 bytes from virtual memory for command buffers. [g200] MemoryBenchmark: 117 mb/s [g200] MemoryBenchmark: 145 mb/s [g200] No sysmemHeap, textures must be stored on card [g200] mgaInitGLX completed So what the pseudoDMA means and how this can affect me? The other detail is "No sysmemheap" message, can somebody enlighten me :_). The address above contains some instructions for Linux folks to reserve some MB of physical memory to G200 DMA operations. Does it work for FreeBSD also? -- Vallo Kallaste vallo@matti.ee To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Jul 9 5:10:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mri2.rug.ac.be (mri2.rug.ac.be [157.193.133.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 562DC14E23 for ; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 05:10:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from glateur@mri2.rug.ac.be) Received: from mri3.mri by mri2.rug.ac.be; (5.65/1.1.8.2/03Nov94-8.2MPM) id AA13999; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 14:10:26 +0200 Received: from mri2.rug.ac.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mri3.mri (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA13659; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 14:10:07 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <3785E69F.4F0B3DD9@mri2.rug.ac.be> Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 14:10:07 +0200 From: Guy Lateur X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Soren Schmidt Cc: Roger Hardiman , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Which bt-card to buy? References: <199907071127.NAA59864@freebsd.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Soren Schmidt wrote: > It seems Roger Hardiman wrote: > > Soren > > > > > > If you do not want to capture video, then the ATI card is a good > > > > option. > > > > > > Huh?? I can capture video all I like with my ATI setup > > > > Sorry. > > I thought there was no video capture option with the ATI card. > > Well, there you are :), I can even watch the video I'm capturing, IIRC > the bt based setup disables onscreen video when capturing probably due > to having enough bus bandwidth.. > > > The ATI card sounds rather good then. > > I think so, the only problem I have with it, is that is limitted to ATI > HW only, but what the heck, the do pretty decent videocards and they > are well supported under XFree86, and if you go with the All in wonder > cards you only use ONE precious slot (AGP|PCI) .... > Thanks a lot for your input. I think I'll go for the ATI (my S3 graphics card is pretty outdated anyway). Any ideas on when GATOS might make it into -stable? Bye, g. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Jul 9 5:20:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from freebsd.dk (freebsd.dk [212.242.42.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFAA514CBA for ; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 05:20:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sos@freebsd.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by freebsd.dk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA69521; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 14:18:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from sos) From: Soren Schmidt Message-Id: <199907091218.OAA69521@freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: Which bt-card to buy? In-Reply-To: <3785E69F.4F0B3DD9@mri2.rug.ac.be> from Guy Lateur at "Jul 9, 1999 2:10: 7 pm" To: glateur@mri2.rug.ac.be (Guy Lateur) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 14:18:11 +0200 (CEST) Cc: roger@cs.strath.ac.uk, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org It seems Guy Lateur wrote: > > Well, there you are :), I can even watch the video I'm capturing, IIRC > > the bt based setup disables onscreen video when capturing probably due > > to having enough bus bandwidth.. > > > > > The ATI card sounds rather good then. > > > > I think so, the only problem I have with it, is that is limitted to ATI > > HW only, but what the heck, the do pretty decent videocards and they > > are well supported under XFree86, and if you go with the All in wonder > > cards you only use ONE precious slot (AGP|PCI) .... > > > > Thanks a lot for your input. I think I'll go for the ATI (my S3 graphics > card is pretty outdated anyway). Any ideas on when GATOS might make it > into -stable? Hmm, it should work there also, remember its just a userland program. You can grap the sources etc off my site and recompile it on a stable system, that should work right away. I'll talk to the GATOS people, see if we can get my (very few) changes into the mainstraem GATOS sources, or maybe I should just sit down and make a port out of it... -Søren To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Jul 9 6:16:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mri2.rug.ac.be (mri2.rug.ac.be [157.193.133.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2C887155B7 for ; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 06:16:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from glateur@mri2.rug.ac.be) Received: from mri3.mri by mri2.rug.ac.be; (5.65/1.1.8.2/03Nov94-8.2MPM) id AA14650; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 15:16:02 +0200 Received: from mri2.rug.ac.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mri3.mri (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA14006; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 15:15:46 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <3785F602.648F1241@mri2.rug.ac.be> Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 15:15:46 +0200 From: Guy Lateur X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Soren Schmidt Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Which bt-card to buy? References: <199907091218.OAA69521@freebsd.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > > > > Thanks a lot for your input. I think I'll go for the ATI (my S3 graphics > > card is pretty outdated anyway). Any ideas on when GATOS might make it > > into -stable? > > Hmm, it should work there also, remember its just a userland program. > > You can grap the sources etc off my site and recompile it on a stable > system, that should work right away. > OK, I'll do that as soon as I get the card; I'll keep you informed. > > I'll talk to the GATOS people, see if we can get my (very few) changes > into the mainstraem GATOS sources, or maybe I should just sit down > and make a port out of it... > If you insist... :) Thanks again! > > -Sxren > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Jul 9 9:59:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C2B514CDF for ; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 09:59:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA12083; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 09:56:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: Ville-Pertti Keinonen Cc: Doug Rabson , freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, vallo@matti.ee Subject: Re: How to actually link with GLX library? In-reply-to: Your message of "09 Jul 1999 11:39:49 +0300." <86g12yjjxm.fsf@not.demophon.com> Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 09:56:57 -0700 Message-ID: <12079.931539417@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org That must be the Riva TNT driver then because the docs are very specific that acceleration ONLY happens at 16 bit, and I've tried it at 16, 24 and 32 and verified this for myself already. - Jordan > > Doug Rabson writes: > > > I thought that this driver only worked in 16bpp. Try changing to 1600x1200 > > at 16bpp. > > Not true, it works in 16bpp or 32bpp. Just not indexed colors (which > are poorly suited for most kinds of 3d work, in any case). > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Jul 9 13: 2:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E762014EA2 for ; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 13:02:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (herring.nlsystems.com [10.0.0.2]) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA79414; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 21:01:37 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 21:01:37 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: Vallo Kallaste Cc: Ville-Pertti Keinonen , freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to actually link with GLX library? In-Reply-To: <19990709150048.A15734@myhakas.matti.ee> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 9 Jul 1999, Vallo Kallaste wrote: > On Fri, Jul 09, 1999 at 10:33:10AM +0300, Ville-Pertti Keinonen wrote: > > > However, buying more memory might not help automatically. IIRC, > > be able to fix this in the configuration, though), and the GLX driver > > developers have not tested with more than 8MB (obviously if it didn't > > work that would be a bug and could be fixed). > > I've just read about pseudoDMA on the address > http://glx.on.openprojects.net/faq.html and noticed that my glx module > reports pseudoDMA. Here are the lines the module reports: > > ... > > So what the pseudoDMA means and how this can affect me? The other detail > is "No sysmemheap" message, can somebody enlighten me :_). The address > above contains some instructions for Linux folks to reserve some MB of > physical memory to G200 DMA operations. Does it work for FreeBSD also? As I understand it, the g200 driver uses DMA to push commands out to the card. Since the all-singing all-dancing DRI dma engine isn't released yet, this means using a hack to reserve a suitable piece of physical memory and running the DMA from that. If such a block of memory is not found, I think they fall back to the 'pseudoDMA' which puts the commands into a regular memory buffer and then later pushes them into the card's fifo by hand. Needless to say, this doesn't allow best performance. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message