From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Jan 1 17:30:48 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA19810 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 17:30:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (welearn.com.au [139.130.44.81] (may be forged)) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA19805 for ; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 17:30:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sue@phoenix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from sue@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.0) id MAA10355 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 12:30:10 +1100 (EST) Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 12:30:10 +1100 (EST) From: Sue Blake Message-Id: <199901020130.MAA10355@phoenix.welearn.com.au> To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: FreeBSD Newbies First Aid Kit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org FreeBSD-Newbies First Aid Kit (Last updated 30 August 1998) (This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list. It is also available at http://www.welearn.com.au/freebsd/newbies/) FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG is the place to send all questions about installing, configuring, running and using FreeBSD. All help requests are handled by FreeBSD-Questions, including newbies questions. FreeBSD-Newbies is different. We don't ask for help or answer how-to questions. It is a discussion forum for newbies. FreeBSD-Newbies provides a place for new FreeBSD users to meet and covers any of the activities of newbies that are not already dealt with elsewhere. Examples include helping each other to learn more on our own, finding and using resources, problem solving techniques, how to seek help elsewhere, how to use mailing lists and which lists to use, general chat, making mistakes, boasting, sharing ideas, stories, moral (but not technical) support, and taking an active part in the FreeBSD community. We take our problems and support questions to freebsd-questions, and use freebsd-newbies to meet others who are doing the same things that we do as newbies. One of the things we do together is learn more effective ways to find help when we need it. Here are some suggestions: When something doesn't work the way you expect 1. First look at the errata for your release of FreeBSD at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/releases/ for the latest information and security advisories. 2. Search the Handbook, FAQ, and mail archives at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/search.html 3. If you still have a question or problem, collect the output of `uname -a' and of any relevant program(s) and email your question to FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. Mailing lists When you have a problem that you can't solve by yourself, there's only one support mailing list and that's FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. FreeBSD-questions helps with installation and basic setup as well as more general and advanced questions. You don't have to actually join freebsd-questions before asking a question there. Replies to your question will normally be sent to you personally as well as to the list. Just make sure you have read and followed the guidelines for posting, because you might find them different to what you're used to. If you do subscribe to freebsd-questions you'll have the advantage of seeing all of the recent questions and their answers. Before you post to FreeBSD-questions, please read the guidelines at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Many of the people who answer FreeBSD-questions are very knowledgeable, but they get frustrated when they get questions which are difficult to understand. http://www.lemis.com/email.html is worth reading too. If you're not sure that you can follow these guidelines, come back and ask the other newbies for help on how to post an effective question to the support mailing list. Maybe your question has been asked before. If you search the mailing list archives at http://www.freebsd.org/search.html first you might get the answer right away. It's always worth trying. Other mailing lists (http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources:charters.html) cover specialised areas and many are more developer-oriented. You'll need to read their charters carefully before participating, but it's probably a good idea to ask on either -newbies or -questions for advice about where to post a more specialised question. FreeBSD-announce is a very low volume read-only list for occasional announcements, such as notice of new releases, and the Really Quick Newsletter. It's worth subscribing to FreeBSD-announce too. Manuals You'll always be expected show that you have made some effort to use the available documentation before asking for help. That's not always as easy as it sounds! If you know what documentation you need but can't locate it, send a brief query to FreeBSD-questions. If you don't know what you need, always have trouble finding it, or can't make any sense of it when you do, ask some patient newbies to steer you in the right direction. Anyone interested in writing or reviewing documentation for FreeBSD is encouraged to join the FreeBSD Documentation Project. Details are at http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/docproj.html Other resources A resource list is available at http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html to help new and inexperienced FreeBSD users to find relevant information quickly. It includes books, on line documents and tutorials, and links to web pages that other newbies have found useful for learning. If you have a suggestion for good material to be included, please write to freebsd-newbies and tell us about it. But I have seen people asking questions here! It is quite common for people to send the wrong kind of post to a mailing list. Because we're newbies it'll certainly happen here from time to time. The best thing to do if you see a message that doesn't belong on a list is to ignore it. There's always someone around whose job it is to sort these problems out privately. The posts to the lists go straight through, whatever their content. It is going to be confusing for a little while because we're all newbies so we all make mistakes. That's OK. One thing we're going to see a fair bit is people posting questions, believing they're doing the right thing by posting here as newbies, not realising how it works. If someone answers those questions the situation will snowball. There's nothing wrong with helping someone to redirect their question to freebsd-questions, but please do so gently. There's nothing wrong with the occasional mistake either. So all questions, requests for help, etc still go to freebsd-questions as usual. Ours is more of a discussion group, a place where newbies can relax with other newbies and focus more on our successes than on our temporary imperfection. We can talk about things here that are not allowed on freebsd-questions. We're also a bit freer to make the mistakes that we need to make in order to learn. _________________________________________________________________ To Subscribe to FreeBSD-Newbies: Send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "subscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message. Mail sent to freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org appears on the mailing list. _________________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Jan 2 09:42:59 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA06193 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 09:42:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.qualityware.com.br (mail.qualityware.com.br [200.250.235.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA06172 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 09:42:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from diego@qualityware.com.br) Received: from qualityware.com.br by mail.qualityware.com.br (Unoverica 3.00f) id 00000DDF; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 14:39:19 -0300 Message-ID: <368E59C7.F2F4C4B5@qualityware.com.br> Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 15:39:19 -0200 From: Diego Deboni Rossetto X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Installing services - NAT, PROXY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello All, Impressive... amazing world, this FreeBSD one... Well, I´ve been working with Netware fow years, and I´m starting with FreeBSD now. Release 2.2.8 at moment. At this moment, I´ve performed the installation routine a couple of times, just to be make me confortable with it. Amazing... every one worked out... Now, I would like to configure a NAT / PROXY service. Image a FreeBSD machine, using 2 ethernet cards. One has a valid Internet address and the another one, an Intranet address - such 192.168.x.x . A couple of workstations would be connected to the Intranet card. I would like to make FreeBSD to give Internet access to those workstations. Could someone gently give me the starting points for this NAT configuration ? Thanks in Advance! -- Diego Deboni Rossetto - diego@qualityware.com.br To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Jan 2 10:24:36 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA10816 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 10:24:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.bodensee.com (mail.bodensee.com [212.62.192.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA10810 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 10:24:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Rainer.Duffner@surf24.de) Received: from gw1.bodensee.com (root@gw1.konstanz.netsurf.de [194.163.242.39]) by mail.bodensee.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA19998; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 19:24:08 +0100 Received: from duffner.surf24.de (surf231.surf24.de [212.62.193.231]) by gw1.bodensee.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA05315; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 19:24:11 +0100 Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 19:23:21 +0100 (MEZ) From: Rainer M Duffner Subject: Re: Installing services - NAT, PROXY To: Diego Deboni Rossetto cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <368E59C7.F2F4C4B5@qualityware.com.br> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=ISO-8859-1 X-Organization: enigma, http://www-stud.fh-konstanz.de/~enigma X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.46] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id KAA10811 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat 02 Jan, Diego Deboni Rossetto wrote: > > Hello All, > Now, I would like to configure a NAT / PROXY service. Image a FreeBSD > machine, using 2 ethernet cards. One has a valid Internet address and > the another one, an Intranet address - such 192.168.x.x . A couple of > workstations would be connected to the Intranet card. I would like to > make FreeBSD to give Internet access to those workstations. Using a leased line or dial-up ? PPP brings along its own NAT-part, whereas if you connect via a isdn-router, you'll have to compile-in some directives into your kernel. For ppp, take a look at the pedantic ppp primer, somewhere on the freebsd.org site > Could someone gently give me the starting points for this NAT > configuration ? NAT... I think there's web-site out there, but it could be dead already : www.dataiv.net Also, try man natd for a brief explanation. For a caching (http)proxy, try squid (in the ports-collection). For other proxies, you'll have to resort to things like TIS FWTK... Anyway - as Sue (or someone else on behalf of her) will point out sooner or later, this is not really a question ideally asked on freebsd-newbies. Use another ML (freebsd-questions@freebsd.org), or look at www.dejanews.com , do a power-search and restrict it to comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc cheers, Rainer -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |Rainer Duffner, E-Mail: duffner@fh-konstanz.de | | & Rainer.Duffner@surf24.de | |Fachhochschule Konstanz, Germany | |"What's a Network ?" - Bill Gates, early 1980s | | Achtung: rainer.duffner@konstanz.netsurf.de | |(die alte E-Mail Adresse) verfällt zum 31.12.98 | | WWW:http://www-stud.fh-konstanz.de/~duffner | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Jan 2 10:53:30 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA13853 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 10:53:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.qualityware.com.br (mail.qualityware.com.br [200.250.235.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA13844 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 10:53:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from diego@qualityware.com.br) Received: from qualityware.com.br by mail.qualityware.com.br (Unoverica 3.00f) id 00000DEC; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 15:50:02 -0300 Message-ID: <368E6A5A.EF05CBF0@qualityware.com.br> Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 16:50:02 -0200 From: Diego Deboni Rossetto X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Installing services - NAT, PROXY References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thanks for your answer, Rainer. Rainer M Duffner wrote: > Using a leased line or dial-up ? > PPP brings along its own NAT-part, whereas if you connect via a > isdn-router, you'll have to compile-in some directives into your kernel. > > For ppp, take a look at the pedantic ppp primer, somewhere on the > freebsd.org site I will be using an external router at this time. So, the FreeBSD machine will be using 2 Ethernet cards. Anyway, PPP is my next step... > NAT... > I think there's web-site out there, but it could be dead already : > www.dataiv.net > Also, try > man natd > for a brief explanation. Further reading at www.freebsd.org : Found about natd . Seems to be what I was looking for. Now I trying the various options. > For a caching (http)proxy, try squid (in the ports-collection). > For other proxies, you'll have to resort to things like TIS FWTK... Ok, I will take a look at that. > Anyway - as Sue (or someone else on behalf of her) will point out sooner > or later, this is not really a question ideally asked on > freebsd-newbies. > Use another ML (freebsd-questions@freebsd.org), or look at > www.dejanews.com , do a power-search and restrict it to > comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Hmmm... I feel like a newbie ... for sure :) . Ok, I´ll subscribe to that ML and try to sort my postings. Thanks again, Rainer. > cheers, > Rainer > -- > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > |Rainer Duffner, E-Mail: duffner@fh-konstanz.de | > | & Rainer.Duffner@surf24.de | > |Fachhochschule Konstanz, Germany | > |"What's a Network ?" - Bill Gates, early 1980s | > | Achtung: rainer.duffner@konstanz.netsurf.de | > |(die alte E-Mail Adresse) verfällt zum 31.12.98 | > | WWW:http://www-stud.fh-konstanz.de/~duffner | > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -- Diego Deboni Rossetto - diego@qualityware.com.br To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Jan 2 18:31:16 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA02129 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 18:31:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rmx07.globecomm.net (rmx07.iname.net [165.251.8.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA02124 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 18:31:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from thax@technologist.com) From: thax@technologist.com Received: from weba4.iname.net by rmx07.globecomm.net (8.9.1/8.8.0) with ESMTP id VAA06254 ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 21:30:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by weba4.iname.net (8.9.1a/8.9.2.Alpha2) id VAA20364; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 21:30:49 -0500 (EST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <99010221304903.20137@weba4.iname.net> Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 21:30:49 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: Text/Plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: FreeBSD-Newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org dear whoever My friend and I are trying to make a free bsd computer and we can't figure out how to use the install disk, and install over the net. If anyone can help us we would appreciate it. thanx, Thax & Drake ----------------------------------------------------- Get free personalized email at http://email.lycos.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Jan 2 18:34:48 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA02375 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 18:34:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dsinw.com (dsinw.com [207.149.40.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA02370 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 18:34:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hamellr@dsinw.com) Received: (from hamellr@localhost) by dsinw.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) id SAA14609; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 18:28:57 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 18:28:56 -0800 (PST) From: rick hamell To: thax@technologist.com cc: FreeBSD-Newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: <99010221304903.20137@weba4.iname.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > My friend and I are trying to make a free bsd computer and we can't > figure out how to use the install disk, and install over the net. If > anyone can help us we would appreciate it. > Goto www.freebsd.org and read the handbook. Then ask questions in freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Rick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message