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>I thought I'd play with windowmaker since my long-term choice of
>window manager (fvwm2) seems to have some nasty bugs in its
>present incarnation.  But, having installed it with pkg_add, I
>can't find any useful doco.  I have read the few brief man pages
>that were included with the package, but I'm looking for
>something more elaborate that will assist me to set up a desktop
>the way I want (e.g., without the maddening clutter of pointless
>icons).  If anybody can give me a pointer, I'd be delighted.

Try these sites:

http://windowmaker.org/

http://people.delphi.com/crc3419/WMUserGuide/toc.htm

Good luck,

--Dan



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What do I need to do to re-activate my Colorado floppy tape drive?

It was there in 3.0-RELEASE, but after building 3.0-STABLE (elf), it no
longer exists. I could not find the ft0 device line in LINT or GENERIC, so I
added the line that I used in 2.2.8,

    tape  ft0 at fdc0 drive 2

but this didn't have any effect.

/dev/ft0a and /dev/rft0a exist, but running 'ft -r' gives me a device not
configured message.

TIA,

--Dan



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>Ok, I'm not really sure what this FreeBSD is exactly.  (What is it?)
>(In case you're wondering, I got to your page by a link.)  And if it's
>titled FreeBSD, is it free?

FreeBSD is a complete BSD Unix operating system for PC's based on
4.4BSD-Lite.

To this, there are three qualifications:

    -- FreeBSD doesn't have "Unix" in the name because of licensing issues.

    -- The "Lite" doesn't mean it's less-filling and tastes-great, but that
none of the original AT&T Unix code remains in the product.

    -- The "Free" in FreeBSD means the source code is freely available. (Try
getting the source code for Windows!) The good news is that although the
"Free" doesn't mean the OS is available at no charge, it really IS available
at no charge! (But purely by coincidence!)

You will find instructions and links for downloading the system on
http://www.freebsd.org or you can save yourself the download headache and
order the 4 CD-ROM set from Walnut Creek CDROM (http://www.cdrom.com/) for
about
$40.

--Dan



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Hey, in my ppp.conf I have the line 

set server /var/tmp/internet "" 0177

Thi works when I use pppctl as root, since the resulting file is
root-owned (with the group bin).  But I am unable to use pppctl to connect
to this as a non-root entity, even when that entity is in the wheel and
network groups (of course it works if I su, but I'd prefer not to, as my
connection is rather crappy, and it often requires a manual down/dial
(don't knock it, it's free).

Is there some way to either get that file so users other than root can
access it or make pppctl read it regardless of who's using it?

Thanks.

-Dan Mahoney

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Hi people,

Does FreeBSD support the EIDE SyQuest SyJet drive (as opposed to the SCSI
drive, which I believe it does support)?

Thanks..
Mike.

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Hi,
there is a nice example in SMM 4.4BSD documents (D. Ritchie "On the
Security of UNIX)
#!/bin/sh
while :
do
	mkdir test; cd test
done
I have been executing the script for 5 min.
I can't delete directory - test!!!
I use command "rm -r ./test". No result.
I use script
#!/bin/sh
while :
do
	if [ -n "$GO" ]; then
		rm -rf test
		cd ..
	else
		if [ -d test ]; then
			cd test
		else
			GO=yes
		fi
	fi
done
No result.
Is there a nice anti_example?

Thanks!			
-- 

                                               Oleg.

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Will freebsd install on win98 using fat32 file systems or will i have to
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Hi, I'd like to know what are the files 4.4BSD-Lite.tar.gz and =
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Holy Crap!!!

I had to try it....:)  This should solve your problem:

#!/bin/sh
# Antitest
while :
do
        if [ -d test ]; then
           cd test
        else
           cd ..
           if [ -d test ]; then
              rm -rf test;
           else
              exit 0
           fi
        fi
done

Very Cool..:)


On Sun, 31 Jan 1999, Oleg Kolobov wrote:

> Hi,
> there is a nice example in SMM 4.4BSD documents (D. Ritchie "On the
> Security of UNIX)
> #!/bin/sh
> while :
> do
> 	mkdir test; cd test
> done
> I have been executing the script for 5 min.
> I can't delete directory - test!!!
> I use command "rm -r ./test". No result.
> I use script
> #!/bin/sh
> while :
> do
> 	if [ -n "$GO" ]; then
> 		rm -rf test
> 		cd ..
> 	else
> 		if [ -d test ]; then
> 			cd test
> 		else
> 			GO=yes
> 		fi
> 	fi
> done
> No result.
> Is there a nice anti_example?
> 
> Thanks!			
> -- 
> 
>                                                Oleg.
> 
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On 30-Jan-99 Jessie wrote:
> Ok, I'm not really sure what this FreeBSD is exactly.  (What is it?) 
> (In case you're wondering, I got to your page by a link.)  And if it's
> titled FreeBSD, is it free?

I guess you didn't get linked to the frontpage.

Go to http://www.freebsd.org and read up on what FreeBSD is.

To cut it short:

It's a BSD 4.4 Lite/2 derived free operating system (read Unix), as in
that the sources are free to get. They do have copyrights on them that
follow the BSD-style copyright.

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On 30-Jan-99 Dima Sivachenko wrote:

> How should I configure ppp to die if connection fails?

man ppp is yer friend

as well as http://www.awfulhak.org/ppp.html

HTH,

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I wonder what effect has idle priority on system activities,
I fear not much. Let's assume the following scenario:

Two hosts (2.2.8-STABLE) connected via 100MBit with a 35MB
file for testing via ftp. Small test shell script:

#!/bin/sh
while true; do
  true
done


1. Both hosts idle: Speed 10.17 MB/s

ftp> get aa
local: aa remote: aa
227 Entering Passive Mode (192,168,18,2,156,75)
150 Opening BINARY mode data connection for 'aa' (36746099 bytes).
100% |**********************************************************************| 35884 KB    00:00 ETA
226 Transfer complete.
36746099 bytes received in 3.45 seconds (10.17 MB/s)


2. Sending host with the above script running: Speed 185.48 KB/s

ftp> get aa
local: aa remote: aa
227 Entering Passive Mode (192,168,18,2,156,79)
150 Opening BINARY mode data connection for 'aa' (36746099 bytes).
100% |**********************************************************************| 35884 KB    00:00 ETA
226 Transfer complete.
36746099 bytes received in 193.47 seconds (185.48 KB/s)


3. Same as 2. but script runs with idprio 5: 689.14 KB/s

ftp> get aa
local: aa remote: aa
227 Entering Passive Mode (192,168,18,2,156,78)
150 Opening BINARY mode data connection for 'aa' (36746099 bytes).
100% |**********************************************************************| 35884 KB    00:00 ETA
226 Transfer complete.
36746099 bytes received in 52.07 seconds (689.14 KB/s)


4. Receiving host with the above script running: Speed 949.32 KB/s

ftp> get aa
local: aa remote: aa
227 Entering Passive Mode (192,168,18,2,156,84)
150 Opening BINARY mode data connection for 'aa' (36746099 bytes).
100% |**********************************************************************| 35884 KB    00:00 ETA
226 Transfer complete.
36746099 bytes received in 37.80 seconds (949.32 KB/s)


5. Same as 4. but script runs with idprio 5: Speed 991.28 KB/s

ftp> get aa
local: aa remote: aa
227 Entering Passive Mode (192,168,18,2,156,83)
150 Opening BINARY mode data connection for 'aa' (36746099 bytes).
100% |**********************************************************************| 35884 KB    00:00 ETA
226 Transfer complete.
36746099 bytes received in 36.20 seconds (991.28 KB/s)



So we get:

no process                    : 10170 KB/s
sender running                :   185 KB/s
sender running with idprio 5  :   689 KB/s
receiver running              :   949 KB/s
receiver running with idprio 5:   991 KB/s


What bugs me is that the rates are so bad in the both idprio'ed
cases. Is there an explanation for that behaviour? Is it possible
to catch the case when the system is _really_ idle so my process
runs only then?


Thanks,

	-Andre

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Hi,

how a simple user , can mount the cdrom ?


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On 31-Jan-99 Andrew Pilley wrote:
> Will freebsd install on win98 using fat32 file systems or will i have to
> reformat my drive to support it?

FreeBSD requires it's own `partition'/slice to operate.

See
http://www.freebsd.org/tutorials/multios/multios.html

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Take a look...  It fixes your dcc problems.

http://mind.riot.org/muh/lynx.html


-Chaos

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Langille <junkmale@xtra.co.nz>
To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Date: 31. januar 1999 09:13
Subject: any IRC proxies?


I'm using ipfilter 3.2.10 under FreeBSD 2.2.8-stable.  The problem I'm
trying to solve is DCC send not working under NAT.  What I've been led to
believe is that a transparent IRC proxy will solve this problem.  Is this
correct?  What solutions exist?

I've tried bnc, but that didn't fix the dcc problem.  I also tried to
install tircproxy, but I received compile
errors during the make:

[root@ns:/usr/ports/net/tircproxy] # make
gcc -O3 -m486 -Wall -DIP_TO_UID_PREFIX="\"/var/run/user-\"" -DIRC_MOTD_FILE=
"\"/etc/motd.irc\"" -
DBROADCAST_FILE="\"/tmp/ircbroadcast\"" -DMANGLE_DCC -DLINUX=1  -c
tircproxy.c
tircproxy.c:55: getopt.h: No such file or directory
*** Error code 1

Stop.

cheers

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[.....]
> OK, I've reproduced with async logging enabled and I'm attaching a
> snippet here.
> 
> [...]
[.....]
> Jan 29 23:41:23 dmg ppp[59]: tun0: Async:  78 63 73 6b 69 2e 63 6f 6d 20 39 31 37 35 37 33 
> Jan 29 23:41:23 dmg ppp[59]: tun0: Async:  33 39 38 20 31 35 30 33 34 20 31 39 32 2e 31 36 
> Jan 29 23:41:23 dmg ppp[59]: tun0: Async:  38 2e 31 2e 31 20 28 32 39 20 4a 61 6e 20 31 39 
> Jan 29 23:41:23 dmg ppp[59]: tun0: Async:  39 39 20 30 31 3a 32 39 3a 35 38 20 47 4d 54 29 
> Jan 29 23:41:23 dmg ppp[59]: tun0: Async:  0d 0a 58 2d 
> Jan 29 23:41:23 dmg ppp[59]: tun0: Async: ReadFromModem 
> Jan 29 23:41:23 dmg ppp[59]: tun0: Async:  43 6f 
[.....]

Hmm, translation:
xcski.com 917573
398 15034 192.16
8.1.1 (29 Jan 19
99 01:29:58 GMT)
\r\nX-  
Co

[.....]
> The last lot of writemodem entries means that my end is still
> going fine, right?  What would I need to get my ISP to do here
> to get the appropriate information on this?

*shrug*  Get them to run ppp on their end ?

The problem is as I suspected.  Their end is bombing out for some 
reason - perhaps because of something that ppp has sent to them.  You 
need to get them to switch on the most verbose logging options 
they've got and to tell you why their ppp implementation exited.

This is where they normally say ``if you're not running windows we're 
not interested''.

> Thanks again,
> 
> Dave

Cheers.

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From: Greg Black <gjb@comkey.com.au>
Subject: Documentation for windowmaker
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 04:47:17 +1000

> I thought I'd play with windowmaker since my long-term choice of
> window manager (fvwm2) seems to have some nasty bugs in its
> present incarnation.  But, having installed it with pkg_add, I
> can't find any useful doco.  I have read the few brief man pages
> that were included with the package, but I'm looking for
> something more elaborate that will assist me to set up a desktop
> the way I want (e.g., without the maddening clutter of pointless
> icons).  If anybody can give me a pointer, I'd be delighted.
> 
> -- 
> Greg Black <gjb@acm.org>
> 
> 

Sure: http://www.windowmaker.org/

Feel free to drop me a line if you continue to remain "stuck" :-)

Good Luck,

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I am seeing these messages at console with bright white color :)

(da1:ahc0:0:1:0): tagged openings now 32
(da1:ahc0:0:1:0): tagged openings now 31     

what does this mean exactly?
is this an error message ?
I have 2 same model scsi disks as da0 and da1
but just this disk gives this message
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hello,
why does /tmp directory has 777 permissions ?
what if somebody fills this directory with stuff?



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> (da1:ahc0:0:1:0): tagged openings now 32
> (da1:ahc0:0:1:0): tagged openings now 31
> 
> what does this mean exactly?
> is this an error message ?

It's an informational message - It means the CAM SCSI drivers have been able
to 'stack' up to 31 pending commands on your Drive. The higher the number the
better...

The exact max value is determined by the drive... You 'generally' tend to find
the better drives are able to handle more queued commands...  You can on the
whole ignore the message - It will only appear when the drive is initially
thrashed for the first time since reboot...

-Kp

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On Sun, Jan 31, 1999 at 04:47:17AM +1000, Greg Black wrote:
>(e.g., without the maddening clutter of pointless
> icons).  If anybody can give me a pointer, I'd be delighted.
> 

Ok... I think I understand your major complaint now.  :-)

Each application 'class' has a set of attributes you can tweak
by right-clicking on the titlebar of an instance.

For example, right-click on an xterm titlebar, select the
"attributes" menu item.  Lotsa knobs here  :-)   

One of the dialog panes, 'Application Specific', has a
checkbox for disabling the application icon.

Now, do you have an oscilloscope icon on your Desktop?  This
is a control panel applet which has quite a few more knobs.

You can disable the Dock and Clip from there too if you
don't want *any* steenking icons  :-)

HTH,

Jerry Hicks
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On 31 Jan, Greg Lehey wrote:
> Funny how spammers can't take their own medicine, isn't it?
Death to ALL SPAMMERS.
You are violating the simplest rules of the FreeDOM of speach.
You are filling our mail boxes with CRAP.
Please try to be responsible.
Enough Noise, and Trouble we are having in day-life.
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Don't you know that it is rather unwise to mail as root?

Could you send a copy of this spam to the list?  That may help a great
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Has anyone installed an Okidata 6e laser printer?  Any pointers on
installation?

Thanks
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I'm running 2.2.7-RELEASE, with the sendmail and config that came when
I installed.

I changed the config to have 

O HoldExpensive=True
O DeliveryMode=background

which I think is what I had on my previous 1.1.5 instalation. The idea
being to queue internet mail and deliver local mail instantly.

When I did this, mail connections from tye outside world started to
fail. So far as I could see when someone tied to connect to sendmail
from the world outside, it would die a horrible death. I couldn't
manage to spot why.

This is just a request to see if anyone else has seen something
similar and can point me to a likely suspect carea of my
configuration. 

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hi

you have to re-partition your drive

-Pons

Andrew Pilley wrote:

> Will freebsd install on win98 using fat32 file systems or will i have to
> reformat my drive to support it?


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Savages wrote:

>  How big in MB is FreeBSD if you could reply A.S.A.P. it would be
> grately appeciated!!!

Depend on how you define "FreeBSD" and
how much can you spare ??
There are FreeBSD versions that run on a single floppy.   the minimal
for a 'normal install' is 60MB at the moment, I think, but it really
depend on how much convenience you want...


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	I am having trouble making a 3COM 3C589B ethernet card workign under
	3.0 This card works under 2.2x with the PAO patches.

	Ehats the story with the PAO patches? I can't find a set for 3.0. Is
	this functioanlity incorporated in 3.0? Does it work the smae way? I
	see a PCCARD kernel prototype, and have recompiled a kernel usig it,
	and this caard is now detectred, but I get a "Driver load failure" when
	it's inserted. The /etc/pccard.conf files seem to be pretty diferent on
	the 2 machines.

	Where can I get some information on this subjetc?

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Hi all,

I'm using FreeBSD 2.2.8. I'm trying to set up usermode ppp.
I managed to do that using the command 'ppp -auto mylabel', when I try
to do the same by issuing the command 'ppp -ddial mylabel' it most of
the times gives the following error:

Working in ddial mode
using interface: tun0
Warning: Add! route failed: 0.0.0.0: errno: Disk quota exceeded

After a couple of tries does work, any idea why this is hapening?
I have quotas enabled in the kernel but not assigned.

Regards,

Klaas

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Replying to my own message....

I solved this by pulling a copy of my kernel config file, wiping out
/usr/src and /usr/obj and reinstalling the source from cd.


On Sat, 30 Jan 1999, Darren Henderson wrote:

> 
> I upgraded from 2.2.1-R to 2.2.8-R today. Everything went smoothly.
> 
> In the interest of completeness I decided to do a make world. This
> unfortunately did not go smoothly:)
> 
> While compiling /usr/src/gnu/lib/libreadline I get a large number of
> multiply defined symbols (in histfile.so terminal.so input.so macro.so
> undo.so kill.so util.so readline.so histexpand.so histsearch.so and
> history.so).
> 
> I'm not quite sure where to go from here. I do notice that there is also a
> libreadline directory under contrib...
> 
> Is this a known problem/anyone have any suggestions?
> 
> Thanks,
> Darren
> 
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Quoting Crist J Clark (cjc@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com):
> Actually, booting from the floppy should be quite easy to do. You
> should get a propmt from the booter and the following help screen,
> 
> Usage: bios_drive:interface(unit,partition)kernel_name options
>     bios_drive   0, 1, ...
>     interface    fd, wd or sd
>     unit         0, 1, ...
>     partition    a, c, ...
>     kernel_name  name of kernel, or ? for list of files in root directory
>     options      -a (ask name) -C (cdrom) -c (userconfig) -D (dual consoles)
>                  -d (debug early) -g (gdb) -h (serial console) -P (probe kbd)
>                  -r (default root) -s (single user) -v (verbose)
> Examples:
>     1:sd(0,a)mykernel  boot `mykernel' on the first SCSI drive when one IDE
>                        drive is present
>     1:wd(2,a)          boot from the second (secondary master) IDE drive
>     1:sd(0,a)?         list the files in the root directory on the specified
>                        drive/unit/partition, and set the default bios_drive,
>                        interface, unit and partition
>     -cv                boot with the defaults, then run UserConfig to modify
>                        hardware parameters (c), and print verbose messages (v)
> 
> At this point, you can just identify where to boot from. If you're
> booting from a second IDE drive, the second example is probably what
> you want.
> 
> I /think/ you should be able to get your boot floppy to load that
> drive by default by modifying the 'boot.config' file on it, but I am
> familiar with the procedure. See 'man 8 boot' for a start on that.
> -- 
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Bingo,

I've been doing this for about a year now.  I used to have NT on
my first drive (now removed with extreme prejudice.)
If I had to boot to NT, just take out floppy, reboot.
Back to FreeBSD, insert floppy, reboot.  When I get up the ambition,
I'll move my main system over to the first drive.

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> "robinson-iii.o" wrote:
> 
> Good Morning Ladies and Gentlemen
> I am in the process of learning UNIX by myself and would like to
> know how I can acquire the     UNIX operating system for my
> computer. I have actually no idea whatsoever where to download it or
> how to. I would appreciate any kind of assistance or suggestions. I
> am a beginner and really want to find out about UNIX.

Excellent!  Since you've found your way here, check out
http://www.freebsd.org, and http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/ and if
you feel like giving it a go,
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> Hi people,
> 
> Does FreeBSD support the EIDE SyQuest SyJet drive (as opposed to the SCSI
> drive, which I believe it does support)?

FreeBSD 3.0 supports my EIDE SyQuest SparQ drive, so I would assume that
it also supports the SyJet. 

> 
> Thanks..
> Mike.
> 
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You will have to repartition your hard drive, giving FreeBSD its own
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On Sun, 31 Jan 1999, Evren Yurtesen wrote:

> hello,
> why does /tmp directory has 777 permissions ?
> what if somebody fills this directory with stuff?
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/tmp should be 1777, which means it is a sticky directory. man 8 sticky
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At 01:25 PM 1/30/99 , Ahmed Ezzat wrote:
>Anyone know what files i should downlaod to setup FreeBSD ..
>I tries the bin directory .. but at the end it tells me it needs the
>kernel image ..
>What other files do i need
>Please send me on aezzat@aucegypt.edu
>Thanks for your help

Please take a look at
"Which file do I download to get FreeBSD?"
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On Sat, 30 Jan 1999, Jean-Michel DRICOT wrote:

> I can't find a command line WAV player under FreeBSD...
> Where could I find one (if any...) ?

Try splay in /usr/ports/audio
 
> Thanks a lot...

You're welcome.
 
 
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On a p233MMX system, SCSI hard drive + zip drive + CD-rom + scanner,
ASUS mainboard.

I did a minimal install over the net of 3.0-RELEASE, and then CVS-up'd
the ports tree. When I do a make install in some (Not all, but notable
are XFree86 and ncftp3) I get:

isulki# cd /usr/ports/x11/XFree86
isulki# make
"Makefile", line 64: Could not find bsd.port.pre.mk
"Makefile", line 70: Malformed conditional (${PORTOBJFORMAT} == "aout")
"Makefile", line 70: Need an operator
"Makefile", line 83: if-less endif
"Makefile", line 83: Need an operator
"Makefile", line 86: Could not find bsd.port.post.mk
make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue

I then used /stand/sysinstall to install in the /usr/src tree, cvsup'd 
to the most recent 3.0-release, and rebooted single user. Did a make world
(just under 4 hours) and rebuilt a custom kernel with the code. Still get
it. Shouldn't ports work 'out-of-the-box'? How do I fix the problem,
and how did I cause it in the first place?


I like ports a lot, they make life a lot easier, but this is making them 
all but useless to me. :( Any help you can offer would be appreciated;
I'll be installing XFree by hand momentaril, never a fun process. :)

Jamie



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Anyone have any problems with the 3.0 stable screen saver?  Ever since I
installed it I cannot get it to come one.  I have it enabled in rc.conf
and use a 300 second delay and tell it to use snake.  I even tried stars
:)  Its always worked in the past with 2.2.x so anyone have any ideas?

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On Sun, 31 Jan 1999, Evren Yurtesen wrote:

> hello,
> why does /tmp directory has 777 permissions ?

So there's an appropriate place for everyone to stick temp files. A lot of
programs break, or at least lose some functionality, if it doesn't have
1777 permissions.

> what if somebody fills this directory with stuff?

Put it on it's own filesystem; put user quotas on it, as well.

Cheers,
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	When I tried to run "cvsup -g -L 2 -P m supfile" as root, to
update my source, my system lagged incredibly. The "system" usage meter in
climbed very quickly, and X was very jittery and lagged. When I shut down
the cvsup program, via Ctl-C, the system went right back to normal. 

I am running:
FreeBSD nyc-ny78-17.ix.netcom.com 3.0-STABLE FreeBSD 3.0-STABLE #24: Fri
Jan 29 13:58:43 EST 1999
root@PigStuy.nws.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/MYKERNEL2  i386

With cvsup version: 15.4.2

This isn't really a problem, I switched cvsup to "-P -" mode and
everything worked, but I would still like to know why this happened.
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I've just added a new section to the FAQ at

  http://www.FreeBSD.org/FAQ/userppp.html

entitled ``My connection hangs after a random amount of time''.  It 
may be worth a visit (it should be available in less than a day).

> [moved to questions]
> 
> [Snipped story about PPP staying up for days at a time until a change
> at the ISP that uses PAP authentication, after which PPP hangs up
> routinely.] 
> 
> I have experienced the idential situation here, with an older release
> of FreeBSD (2.1.5-R).  I (incorrectly?) blamed the situation on my
> infinitely competent ISP.
> 
> I'm curious to know what's happening, but don't consider the problem
> to be much in the way of a crisis.
> 
> -- 
> Matt Curtin cmcurtin@interhack.net http://www.interhack.net/people/cmcurtin/

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Please don't send the same message to FreeBSD-questions and directly 
to me.  Put both addresses on one message instead if you wish.

> I am setting up user ppp to act as server. I followed the procedure
> described in FreeBSD Handbook. Everythink seems to be allright, but
> the only problem does exist: if connection fails ( due to noice in
> telephone
> line or I kill it by hands on the client machine), then ppp process
> which runs on server doesn't die and
> continue to run for unlimited time. Due to it new getty process is not
> spawned
> and new calls to modem are not accepted.
> How should I configure ppp to die if connection fails?
> 
> Thank you in advance,
> Dima.

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> Hey, in my ppp.conf I have the line 
> 
> set server /var/tmp/internet "" 0177
> 
> Thi works when I use pppctl as root, since the resulting file is
> root-owned (with the group bin).  But I am unable to use pppctl to connect
> to this as a non-root entity, even when that entity is in the wheel and
> network groups (of course it works if I su, but I'd prefer not to, as my
> connection is rather crappy, and it often requires a manual down/dial
> (don't knock it, it's free).
> 
> Is there some way to either get that file so users other than root can
> access it or make pppctl read it regardless of who's using it?

Have you tried looking at the ``set server'' description in the ppp 
man page ?  The 0177 is a permission mask....

It's unwise to set it to anything other than 0177 if you have no 
password though.

> Thanks.
> 
> -Dan Mahoney
> 
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Try typing ``dmesg | fgrep sio''.  You should see a few lines 
something like:

sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa
sio0: type 16550A

This indicates that cuaa0 (COM1) is available.  Don't attempt to use 
any cua devices that are not probed correctly....

> Dear FreeBSD Support Peoples:
> 
> I am having slight problems getting user PPP to work.  I dislike harassing
> fine people like yourselves about such trivial matters, but the man page,
> the handbook, ppp_setup.sh, etc have failed me.  (Or rather, I'm just
> retarded).  I tried setting my modem to both cuaa0 and cuaa1, but every
> time I try ppp -ddial or just ppp manually, it just hangs.  When I type
> term and then type ATZ or ATDT or other modem commands, I get no local
> echo and the ppp program can't even be killed with a -9...I have to reboot
> to regain control of the tty.
> 
> If anyone could clue me in to any possible solutions, I send out my thanks
> in advance.
> 
> Thanks,
> Paul
> 
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I've just added a new section to the FAQ at

  http://www.FreeBSD.org/FAQ/userppp.html

entitled ``My connection hangs after a random amount of time''.  It 
may be worth a visit (it should be available in less than a day).

> [moved to questions]
> 
> [Snipped story about PPP staying up for days at a time until a change
> at the ISP that uses PAP authentication, after which PPP hangs up
> routinely.] 
> 
> I have experienced the idential situation here, with an older release
> of FreeBSD (2.1.5-R).  I (incorrectly?) blamed the situation on my
> infinitely competent ISP.
> 
> I'm curious to know what's happening, but don't consider the problem
> to be much in the way of a crisis.
> 
> -- 
> Matt Curtin cmcurtin@interhack.net http://www.interhack.net/people/cmcurtin/

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I've just added a new section to the FAQ at

  http://www.FreeBSD.org/FAQ/userppp.html

entitled ``My connection hangs after a random amount of time''.  It 
may be worth a visit (it should be available in less than a day).

> [moved to questions]
> 
> [Snipped story about PPP staying up for days at a time until a change
> at the ISP that uses PAP authentication, after which PPP hangs up
> routinely.] 
> 
> I have experienced the idential situation here, with an older release
> of FreeBSD (2.1.5-R).  I (incorrectly?) blamed the situation on my
> infinitely competent ISP.
> 
> I'm curious to know what's happening, but don't consider the problem
> to be much in the way of a crisis.
> 
> -- 
> Matt Curtin cmcurtin@interhack.net http://www.interhack.net/people/cmcurtin/

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to learn UNIX try this
http://www.unix911.com/sui/ugu/show?help.beginners
go ahead  ;-)

-Pons

> > "robinson-iii.o" wrote:
> >
> > Good Morning Ladies and Gentlemen
> > I am in the process of learning UNIX by myself and would like to
> > know how I can acquire the     UNIX operating system for my
> > computer. I have actually no idea whatsoever where to download it or
> > how to. I would appreciate any kind of assistance or suggestions. I
> > am a beginner and really want to find out about UNIX.


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Hi:

	I have been using FreeBSD for 3 years now.  I just installed the new
version of 3.0.  The question I have has to do with security access:

As in Novel when you set the security attributes, the user can view and work
from his directory down. But he/she can not move upstream to look into
directories above his or hers.

Can this be done with FreeBSD?  If so what is the command and could you give
me instructions on how to do it.  My problem is,  my users are going into
other users directories.  I have the attributes setup so they can not write
or erase, but they are playing in system areas as well as other areas that
they do not need access to even view.  So in other words,  I want them to be
able to get into their homepage files and to have the ability to have their
files viewed from the net, but I want them contained into their
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warning,  I am still a novice in the great world of FreeBSD.

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On Sun, 31 Jan 1999, Dima Sivachenko wrote:

>I need to automate things to give several commands to my modem.
>Now I can do it with "tip", but it requires manual typing commands.
>Is there any programs which can take a "script file" as an argument and
>then connect to modem and to pass these commands to it?

"chat" ? Or you could drive "tip" with "expect", or even use "expect" to
talk to the modem port directly.  Expect is in the ports collection.

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> On Sun, 31 Jan 1999, Evren Yurtesen wrote:
>
> > hello,
> > why does /tmp directory has 777 permissions ?
>
>

 It has 1777 permissions

-Pons


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Hallo,

who can help me to use my Conner  Floppy Tape. During the
boot-process it is detected as a Conner Tape (that's correct)
and
it is driven by the ft0 device. I'm using the FreeBSD-Version
2.2.2
where i found a tip that there is maybe a problem with writing
-errors
on this device. On my system allways at the same block happens
this
error and i can't find a solution and i don't have a ftp-connection

to update my ft0-src. Where i can get a newer version of this
dev-driver or what should i do to get this driver working ??

Thanks for your reply, yours sincerely,

Kay-Uwe Michaelis, 101.69989@german.net.

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 Did someone break CVSUP or is my machine wacky?


Updating collection src-all/cvs
 Delete src/contrib/cvs/l
Updater failed: /usr/src/contrib/cvs/lib/#cvs.cvsup-1186.1: Cannot create: Not
a directory



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> In the last few days I've noticed a really high number of collisions
> on my Ethernet.  There are only 5 machines on the network, 3 of which
> are barely active, yet I see:
> 
> (allegro, running 2.2.6-STABLE)
> ed0   1500  <Link>      00.00.c0.44.a5.68 43729816    45 43861788    12 977828
> ed0   1500  widecast      allegro         43729816    45 43861788    12 977828

That's only 1.1%.

> (freebie, running 4.0-CURRENT)
> Name  Mtu   Network       Address            Ipkts Ierrs    Opkts Oerrs  Coll
> ed2   1500  <Link>      00.80.48.e6.a0.61 11976144    12 13389307     0 988340
> ed2   1500  widecast      freebie         11976144    12 13389307     0 988340

And that's only 3.9% -- it's worse than allegro, but not by a
significant margin for the relatively small amount of traffic.
On my Ethernet, I have machines that report 0.01%, 9.6%, 0.7%,
0.04% and 0.4%.  The outlier is a machine that has been up a few
hours and was used for a large file transfer which blew its
average out of the water -- it'll be back to about 1% as time
goes by.

> I tried an ftp from panic, copying a file of 45 MB from freebie.  The
> transfer ran at about 1 MB/s with about 450 collisions per second on
> the freebie side, none on the panic side.  Here are the values before
> and after:
> 
> freebie:
>           Ipkts Ierrs    Opkts Oerrs  Coll
> before 11978350    13 13392678     0  989089
> after  11994616    13 13424921     0 1009912
> diff      16266     0    32243     0   20823
> 
> panic:
>           Ipkts Ierrs    Opkts Oerrs  Coll
> before      480     0      651     1     0
> after     32143     0    16679     1     0
> diff      31663     0    16028     0     0
> 
> Looking at these results (40% collision rate on freebie), it would
> seem that something is seriously wrong in the network.  On the other
> hand, allegro also shows a large number of collisions.  At the moment
> I'm suspecting the (3 month old) Ethernet board in freebie, but I was
> wondering if there were other reasons which might apply.

I just did some 10 to 15 MB file transfers with NFS on my LAN (I
don't have FTP set up), and saw collision rates ranging from 25%
to 35% for those periods.  I'd say that was pretty normal, given
the way that Ethernet works.  The more interesting statistics
are the overall figures over time, and the ones you give at the
start aren't too bad.  Yes, freebie is a bit high -- but 4%
compared with 1% is not a big factor, especially with the fairly
low total amount of traffic.  I'd watch it for a bit longer
before deciding it was a real problem.  After all, if you're
getting 1 MB/s on a 10 Mb/s LAN, you're doing pretty well :-)

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>I'm running a primary DNS server and I keep getting the following errors
on my console.  DNS has been running fine, but would like to resolve this
anyways.  ANY SUGGESTIONS?
>
>Jan 30 12:52:09 host named[442]: evSelectFD(dfd=256): Invalid argument
>Jan 30 12:52:09 host named[442]: deleting interface [207.227.32.118].53
>Jan 30 12:52:09 host named[442]: evSelectFD(dfd=256): Invalid argument
>Jan 30 12:52:09 host named[442]: deleting interface [127.0.0.1].53
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>
>I assume it's something with the named.conf file?


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On Sun, 31 Jan 1999, Morris Allen wrote:

> Hi:
> 
> 	I have been using FreeBSD for 3 years now.  I just installed the new
> version of 3.0.  The question I have has to do with security access:
> 
> As in Novel when you set the security attributes, the user can view and work
> from his directory down. But he/she can not move upstream to look into
> directories above his or hers.
> 
> Can this be done with FreeBSD?  If so what is the command and could you give
> me instructions on how to do it.  My problem is,  my users are going into
> other users directories.  I have the attributes setup so they can not write
> or erase, but they are playing in system areas as well as other areas that
> they do not need access to even view.  So in other words,  I want them to be
> able to get into their homepage files and to have the ability to have their
> files viewed from the net, but I want them contained into their
> /home/directory and not able to snoop, in directories above theirs.  Advance
> warning,  I am still a novice in the great world of FreeBSD.

Any file you do not wish to have other users accessing should have the
proper permissions. For instance, you may not want users going in to
/sbin. So, chown /sbin to root and chgrp it to wheel, and then remove the
last "x" permission bit. That way, people who are not root and who are not
in wheel will not be able to see the contents of /sbin. You seem to want
to make most important directories on the system (including users home
directories) not other-executable. 

> 
> thanks
> Morris Allen
> 
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I posted this a couple of weeks ago and got no response so I'm trying
again. Does anyone have any ideas please?


Some programs fail to run in X complaining about there being not
enough
colours, but I'm running at 24 bpp using an ATI Xpert@Work 4MB (Mach
64
server).

Below are a couple of examples and the output of xdpyinfo. One thing
about xdpyinfo's output is the reference to available colourmaps. I
thought colourmaps were only required when running at 256 colours
(8bpp).

Can anyone explain what's causing this, and how to fix it.

TIA

marder-1:/usr/radan{58}% flying -pool
flying:
        Game of Pool/Snooker/Carrom/Hockey/Curling for X-Windows
        $Revision: 6.20 $ $Date: 1995/10/03 13:26:57 $ Author: Helmut
Hoenig
not enough colors: I need 10 colors + 4 planes.

marder-1:/usr/radan{59}% xcoloredit
Error: xcoloredit: Not enough colormap entries available

marder-1:/usr/radan{60}% xdpyinfo
name of display:    :0.0
version number:    11.0
vendor string:    The XFree86 Project, Inc
vendor release number:    3330
maximum request size:  4194300 bytes
motion buffer size:  256
bitmap unit, bit order, padding:    32, LSBFirst, 32
image byte order:    LSBFirst
number of supported pixmap formats:    2
supported pixmap formats:
    depth 1, bits_per_pixel 1, scanline_pad 32
    depth 24, bits_per_pixel 32, scanline_pad 32
keycode range:    minimum 8, maximum 134
focus:  window 0x1c00015, revert to Parent
number of extensions:    19
    BIG-REQUESTS
    DOUBLE-BUFFER
    DPMS
    LBX
    MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
    MIT-SHM
    MIT-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD
    RECORD
    SECURITY
    SHAPE
    SYNC
    XC-APPGROUP
    XC-MISC
    XFree86-DGA
    XFree86-Misc
    XFree86-VidModeExtension
    XInputExtension
    XKEYBOARD
    XTEST
default screen number:    0
number of screens:    1

screen #0:
  dimensions:    1024x768 pixels (347x260 millimeters)
  resolution:    75x75 dots per inch
  depths (1):    24
  root window id:    0x25
  depth of root window:    24 planes
  number of colormaps:    minimum 1, maximum 1
  default colormap:    0x21
  default number of colormap cells:    256
  preallocated pixels:    black 0, white 16777215
  options:    backing-store YES, save-unders YES
  largest cursor:    64x64
  current input event mask:    0x158201d
    KeyPressMask             ButtonPressMask         
ButtonReleaseMask        
    EnterWindowMask          ButtonMotionMask        
SubstructureNotifyMask   
    SubstructureRedirectMask PropertyChangeMask      
OwnerGrabButtonMask      
  number of visuals:    1
  default visual id:  0x20
  visual:
    visual id:    0x20
    class:    TrueColor
    depth:    24 planes
    available colormap entries:    256 per subfield
    red, green, blue masks:    0xff0000, 0xff00, 0xff
    significant bits in color specification:    8 bits
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I've got a simple questions regarding the pcm driver.

I've built a kernel and included the pcm0 driver, no problems there.
However, after the new kernel is installed and the machine restarted dmesg
reports finding pcm1, but reports that it couldn't find pcm0.  If I build
with pcm1, it reports finding pcm2 and not pcm1.  I'm just curious, is
this normal?  It's not a problem since everything actually works fine, I
just really want to know why this happens!

Thanks much,

Jim

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> Does anyone know anything about using "bonded" modems with FreeBSD.  =
> I've looked everywhere I can think of and can find nothing.  Windows 98, =
> NT and Linux can do this I find it hard to believe that FreeBSD cannot.  =
> If someone could just point me in the right directions I would be most =
> appreciative.

If you're talking about MP (multilink PPP), user-ppp (ppp(8)) can do 
it.  If you've got a FreeBSD version from before 2.2.8 or 3.0, you 
can get the latest version of ppp via 

  http://www.Awfulhak.org/ppp.html

> Thanks,
> 
> Mark Skaggs

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I keep getting the following message: (with the last number incremented)
Jan 31 15:03:51 pds-1 /kernel: sio0: 1 more silo overflow (total 9)

I have an external modem on sio0 (/dev/cuaa0)..what is causing this
problem?

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I went to an install fest to get help installing FreeBSD on my
laptop as a dual boot installation. The install guru asked
permission to delete two partitions and neither of us knew
what they were for. After some hesitation, I agreed.

After rebooting, I found out what they were for. :-> My laptop,
an Everex StepNote, has (er, had) as part of the Phoenix BIOS
the ability to save the state of the RAM to the fixed disk when
the battery ran down. Those two partitions were for the Save to
Disk feature. Now I get an error message at every start up, and
my computer no longer has a feature I have used. The error dialog
says Save to Disk file not found. Save to disk feature disabled.
Run Phdisk for information. _File_: create new. _Partition_:
consult manual. Hit any key to exit.

My manual has nothing on the issue, only noting is a sentence that
the feature is present. Phoenix's Web site says phdisk.exe is
particular to each computer because of BIOS and RAM so consult
with the vendor. I went to Everex's Web site and used their CGI
script to leave a message with support _and_it_bounced_!

Has anyone else advertantly or inadvertantly deleted that
partition during an install? Any clues on whether I can get that
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>>>>> Mark Ovens writes:

 > I posted this a couple of weeks ago and got no response so I'm trying
 > again. Does anyone have any ideas please?

 > Some programs fail to run in X complaining about there being not
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 > colours, but I'm running at 24 bpp using an ATI Xpert@Work 4MB (Mach
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Many program are badly written and don't work in 24bpp. Xcoloredit is
one of them.

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Aha - you _must_ mount the cdrom on a dir named "/2.2.6-RELEASE" _instead_ of
/cdrom.  It will work then...

Jeffrey Vehrs wrote:

> I'm giving you a little background of how it was set up. I have a laptop and
> FreeBSD box with laplink cable attached to both. FreeBSD box is the host. It
> has the CDROM drive. The goal is to install FreeBSD from the FBSD box w/
> CDROM drive onto the laptop via PLIP. This is how it works:
>
>                   iceman <-------> cooljoe
> IP address        10.0.0.3         10.0.0.4
>
> iceman  ==> FBSD box w/ CDROM drive(host)
> cooljoe ==> laptop
>
> I was able to ping each other on both boxes. Also, I can FTPs to each
> other on both boxes. Now, the problem is that I could NOT install FreeBSD
> from iceman thru /stand/sysinstall.
>
> I've already add 'ftp:*:99:99::0:0:FTP:/cdrom:/sbin/nologin' via vipw. The
> 'err' msg said, "Warning: Can't CD to '2.2.6-RELEASE' distribution on this
> FTP server". I can FTP manually to /cdrom without a problem. Did I miss
> something here?
>
> TIA.
>
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"Paul D. Schmidt" wrote:

> I keep getting the following message: (with the last number incremented)
> Jan 31 15:03:51 pds-1 /kernel: sio0: 1 more silo overflow (total 9)
>

you have the wrong irq set.
just reboot and right when you get the boot: promt then type -c   -after that
type visual and you can edit irq's etc. your irq is probably set to 3 just change
it to 4 and it will work.


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On Sun, Jan 31, 1999 at 10:17:54AM -0800, Jamie Norwood wrote:
> "Makefile", line 64: Could not find bsd.port.pre.mk
> "Makefile", line 70: Malformed conditional (${PORTOBJFORMAT} == "aout")
> "Makefile", line 70: Need an operator
> "Makefile", line 83: if-less endif
> "Makefile", line 83: Need an operator
> "Makefile", line 86: Could not find bsd.port.post.mk
> make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue
> 

Go to http://www.freebsd.org/ports/ and install the appropriate
upgrade kit.

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Surely these will work in NE2000 mode using the ed0 device?? (I could be totally
wrong of course...)

"WarezSearch Interactive, Inc." wrote:

> Hello,
>
>    I have tried to install a number of UNIX/LINUX OS's including Red Hat
> Linux, and Solaris.  All of which did not support my NIC.  It is a D-Link DE
> 220 and most OS's support the 550 model, but not mine.  I was wondering if
> any knew if FreeBSD would be able to run my NIC.  I need this to work so
> that my Internet Connection can be established.  I have a Cable Modem and
> would love to run UNIX or LINUX, but I have not found one that will work
> properly.  If anyone has any ideas, please let me know.
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Version: 3-stable

I know that this is a problem that many seem to have, but I just can't
seem to solve it.

I had problems with my ports collection complaining about
bsd.port.post.mk  and bsd.port.pre.mk.  So after reading through the
earlier problems where someone had suggested that the upgrades patched
might be good idea I used pkg_add and put in 3.0 to 3.0-stable upgrade
kit.  But now my parts collection is completely shot and I get the
following error:

>"/usr/share/mk/bsd.port.mk", line 2: Could not find
>/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk
>make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue

and indeedy when i look at bsd.port.mk it says that it wants to go to
the Mk directory in ports.

My question is is obviously what to do?  

(Please any suggestions to getting certain files would be much more
helpful to me if someone actually pointed out where they were. )

/Jill

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Try enabling the controller scbus0 device - all the scsi devices _require_ it.
(ie:*must* have it)

Fredrik Johansson wrote:

> Sorry, but I forgot the config file for the previous letter.
>
> it follows here
>
> -Fredrik
>
>   ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> #
> # GENERIC -- Generic machine with WD/AHx/NCR/BTx family disks
> #
> # For more information read the handbook part System Administration ->
> # Configuring the FreeBSD Kernel -> The Configuration File.
> # The handbook is available in /usr/share/doc/handbook or online as
> # latest version from the FreeBSD World Wide Web server
> # <URL:http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/>
> #
> # An exhaustive list of options and more detailed explanations of the
> # device lines is present in the ./LINT configuration file. If you are
> # in doubt as to the purpose or necessity of a line, check first in LINT.
> #
> #       $Id: GENERIC,v 1.125 1998/10/16 01:30:11 obrien Exp $
>
> machine         "i386"
> #cpu            "I386_CPU"
> #cpu            "I486_CPU"
> cpu             "I586_CPU"
> #cpu            "I686_CPU"
> ident           FLINTA
> maxusers        4
>
> options         MATH_EMULATE            #Support for x87 emulation
> options         INET                    #InterNETworking
> options         FFS                     #Berkeley Fast Filesystem
> options         FFS_ROOT                #FFS usable as root device [keep this!]
> options         MFS                     #Memory Filesystem
> options         MFS_ROOT                #MFS usable as root device, "MFS" req'ed
> options         NFS                     #Network Filesystem
> options         NFS_ROOT                #NFS usable as root device, "NFS" req'ed
> options         MSDOSFS                 #MSDOS Filesystem
> options         "CD9660"                #ISO 9660 Filesystem
> options         "CD9660_ROOT"           #CD-ROM usable as root. "CD9660" req'ed
> options         PROCFS                  #Process filesystem
> options         "COMPAT_43"             #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!]
> options         SCSI_DELAY=15000        #Be pessimistic about Joe SCSI device
> options         UCONSOLE                #Allow users to grab the console
> options         FAILSAFE                #Be conservative
> options         USERCONFIG              #boot -c editor
> options         VISUAL_USERCONFIG       #visual boot -c editor
> options         "EXT2FS"                #linux file system
>
> config          kernel  root on wd0
>
> controller      isa0
> controller      eisa0
> controller      pci0
>
> controller      fdc0    at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio irq 6 drq 2 vector fdintr
> disk            fd0     at fdc0 drive 0
> disk            fd1     at fdc0 drive 1
> # Unless you know very well what you're doing, leave ft0 at drive 2, or
> # remove the line entirely if you don't need it.  Trying to configure
> # it on another unit might cause surprises, see PR kern/7176.
> tape            ft0     at fdc0 drive 2
>
> options         "CMD640"        # work around CMD640 chip deficiency
> controller      wdc0    at isa? port "IO_WD1" bio irq 14 vector wdintr
> disk            wd0     at wdc0 drive 0
> disk            wd1     at wdc0 drive 1
>
> controller      wdc1    at isa? port "IO_WD2" bio irq 15 vector wdintr
> disk            wd2     at wdc1 drive 0
> disk            wd3     at wdc1 drive 1
>
> options         ATAPI           #Enable ATAPI support for IDE bus
> options         ATAPI_STATIC    #Don't do it as an LKM
> device          wcd0            #IDE CD-ROM
> device          wfd0            #IDE Floppy (e.g. LS-120)
>
> # A single entry for any of these controllers (ncr, ahb, ahc, amd) is
> # sufficient for any number of installed devices.
> #controller     ncr0
> #controller     amd0
> controller      ahb0
> #controller     ahc0
> controller      isp0
>
> # This controller offers a number of configuration options, too many to
> # document here  - see the LINT file in this directory and look up the
> # dpt0 entry there for much fuller documentation on this.
> #controller      dpt0
>
> #controller     adv0    at isa? port ? cam irq ?
> #controller     adw0
> #controller     bt0     at isa? port ? cam irq ?
> #controller     aha0    at isa? port ? cam irq ?
> #controller     uha0    at isa? port "IO_UHA0" bio irq ? drq 5 vector uhaintr
> #controller     aic0    at isa? port 0x340 bio irq 11 vector aicintr
> #controller     nca0    at isa? port 0x1f88 bio irq 10 vector ncaintr
> #controller     nca1    at isa? port 0x350 bio irq 5 vector ncaintr
> #controller     sea0    at isa? bio irq 5 iomem 0xc8000 iosiz 0x2000 vector seaintr
>
> #controller     scbus0
>
> device          da0
>
> device          sa0
>
> device          pass0
>
> device          cd0     #Only need one of these, the code dynamically grows
>
> #device         wt0     at isa? port 0x300 bio irq 5 drq 1 vector wtintr
> #device         mcd0    at isa? port 0x300 bio irq 10 vector mcdintr
>
> #controller     matcd0  at isa? port 0x230 bio
>
> #device         scd0    at isa? port 0x230 bio
>
> # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console
> device          sc0     at isa? port "IO_KBD" conflicts tty irq 1 vector scintr
> # Enable this and PCVT_FREEBSD for pcvt vt220 compatible console driver
> #device         vt0     at isa? port "IO_KBD" conflicts tty irq 1 vector pcrint
> #options                XSERVER                 # support for X server
> #options                FAT_CURSOR              # start with block cursor
> # If you have a ThinkPAD, uncomment this along with the rest of the PCVT lines
> #options                PCVT_SCANSET=2          # IBM keyboards are non-std
>
> device          npx0    at isa? port "IO_NPX" irq 13 vector npxintr
>
> #
> # Laptop support (see LINT for more options)
> #
> device          apm0    at isa? disable flags 0x31 # Advanced Power Management
>
> # PCCARD (PCMCIA) support
> #controller     card0
> #device         pcic0   at card?
> #device         pcic1   at card?
>
> device          sio0    at isa? port "IO_COM1" flags 0x10 tty irq 4 vector siointr
> device          sio1    at isa? port "IO_COM2" tty irq 3 vector siointr
> #device         sio2    at isa? disable port "IO_COM3" tty irq 5 vector siointr
> #device         sio3    at isa? disable port "IO_COM4" tty irq 9 vector siointr
>
> device          lpt0    at isa? port? tty irq 7 vector lptintr
>
> device          psm0    at isa? port "IO_KBD" conflicts tty irq 12 vector psmintr
>
> # Order is important here due to intrusive probes, do *not* alphabetize
> # this list of network interfaces until the probes have been fixed.
> # Right now it appears that the ie0 must be probed before ep0. See
> # revision 1.20 of this file.
> #device de0
> device fxp0
> #device tl0
> #device tx0
> #device vx0
> #device xl0
>
> #device ed0 at isa? port 0x280 net irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 vector edintr
> #device ie0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd0000 vector ieintr
> #device ep0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 vector epintr
> #device ex0 at isa? port? net irq? vector exintr
> #device fe0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq ? vector feintr
> #device le0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 5 iomem 0xd0000 vector le_intr
> #device lnc0 at isa? port 0x280 net irq 10 drq 0 vector lncintr
> #device ze0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 vector zeintr
> #device zp0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 vector zpintr
> #device cs0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq ? vector csintr
>
> pseudo-device   loop
> pseudo-device   ether
> #pseudo-device  sl      1
> #pseudo-device  ppp     1
> #pseudo-device  tun     1
> pseudo-device   pty     16
> pseudo-device   gzip            # Exec gzipped a.out's
>
> # KTRACE enables the system-call tracing facility ktrace(2).
> # This adds 4 KB bloat to your kernel, and slightly increases
> # the costs of each syscall.
> options         KTRACE          #kernel tracing
>
> # This provides support for System V shared memory.
> #
> options         SYSVSHM
>
> #  The `bpfilter' pseudo-device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter.  Be
> #  aware of the legal and administrative consequences of enabling this
> #  option.  The number of devices determines the maximum number of
> #  simultaneous BPF clients programs runnable.
> #pseudo-device  bpfilter        4       #Berkeley packet filter
> controller snd0
> device sb0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 5 conflicts drq 1 vector sbintr
> device sbxvi0 at isa? drq 5
> device sbmidi0 at isa? port 0x330

--
Regards
Andrew Johns
TurnAround Solutions Pty Ltd
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How much does an o/s like
Linux an FreeBSD have in
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Linux would FreeBSD be
similar?


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Jean-Marc Zucconi wrote:
> 
> >>>>> Mark Ovens writes:
> 
>  > I posted this a couple of weeks ago and got no response so I'm trying
>  > again. Does anyone have any ideas please?
> 
>  > Some programs fail to run in X complaining about there being not
>  > enough
>  > colours, but I'm running at 24 bpp using an ATI Xpert@Work 4MB (Mach
>  > 64
>  > server).
> 
> Many program are badly written and don't work in 24bpp. Xcoloredit is
> one of them.
> 

Thanks for the info, I'll try it at lower colour depths


> Jean-Marc
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hello everyone.

my question for you is, were can I find info on ipfw for freebsd? I have
used it with Linux but never with freebsd and I believe it is different.

Can someone direct me to a web site that will show me how to set it up?
Perferably a site that tells how to do it as easy as possible?

Any info will help.

Thanks! :-)

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I have some kde packages I made hacking trough  the code and makefiles.
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Hi,
where can i find 3-0.-STABLE-SNAP ? and 4.0-CURRENT and snaps ?


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On Fri, 25 Dec 1998, Brian N. Lehnhardt wrote:

> How much does an o/s like
> Linux an FreeBSD have in
> common? If I am okay with
> Linux would FreeBSD be
> similar?
> 

Linux and FreeBSD have a lot in common. There are a lot of commonly used
applications that are available for both operating systems. The basic
principles behind the two are very similar, as are most of their
abilities. Where they differ, it is often not in what they can do, but
instead how (or how well) they can do it. For instance, the command used
by FreeBSD to create and modify firewalls is "ipfw", while it is
"ipchains" for Linux. 

If you learn on one, learning the other will not be hard. 

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On Sun, 31 Jan 1999, Kyle Mobley wrote:

> hello everyone.
> 
> my question for you is, were can I find info on ipfw for freebsd? I have
> used it with Linux but never with freebsd and I believe it is different.

"man 8 ipfw" is a good start.
"http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/handbook85.html#163" should also be of
use. 

If you run in to any problems, you can always mail freebsd-questions. 

> 
> Can someone direct me to a web site that will show me how to set it up?
> Perferably a site that tells how to do it as easy as possible?
> 
> Any info will help.
> 
> Thanks! :-)
> 
> -Kyle
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I'm looking for a *good* 10/100M PCI ethernet card with appropriate
driver support under FreeBSD/i386. Any recommendations?

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On Sun, 31 Jan 1999, Brandon Fosdick wrote:

> I'm trying to install 3.0-RELEASE on a iP200MMX with 32MB EDO, 8.4GB IDE, CD-ROM
> and LS-120. After it finishes copying from the ftp site it immediately exits on
> signal 11. The debug screen is full of lines that start with "save userconfig"
> interspersed with something about ISA loops. Any ideas?

What devices do you have on the ISA bus? What kind of internet connection
do you have?

> 
> Thanx,
> Brandon
> 
> -- 
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On 31 Jan 1999, Christian Weisgerber wrote:

> I'm looking for a *good* 10/100M PCI ethernet card with appropriate
> driver support under FreeBSD/i386. Any recommendations?

 Intel EtherExpress Pro 10/100B Ethernet


regards.
Ilias



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Hi All,
i want to rebuild the kernel on two 2.1.5 machines but i don't have the 
source...... does anybody out there know how i can get it.....
Leo
PS. before you say it, I'm not looking to upgrade just yet..... thanks

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Spike wrote:
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> On Sun, 31 Jan 1999, Brandon Fosdick wrote:
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> > I'm trying to install 3.0-RELEASE on a iP200MMX with 32MB EDO, 8.4GB IDE, CD-ROM
> > and LS-120. After it finishes copying from the ftp site it immediately exits on
> > signal 11. The debug screen is full of lines that start with "save userconfig"
> > interspersed with something about ISA loops. Any ideas?
> 
> What devices do you have on the ISA bus? What kind of internet connection
> do you have?

SB16/AWE32, Hercules Stingray 128/3D, 3Com 3C509 Ethernet (campus network)
I just tried doing a 2.2.8 install and got the same error, but without all the
ISA stuff.

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After adding all the necessary packages and then adding Window Maker, I
can't get it to run.  It always exits with the error "ld.so failed: Can't
find shared library "libpng.so.2.1."  I'm guessing that the package in
question is png, but I have png-1.0.2 installed.
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now, not a package.  I can't use ports, since I have no BSD internet
connection, so does anyone know when it will be a package?  Thanks,


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On Sunday, 31 January 1999 at  4:34:05 -0800, Eric Hodel wrote:
> Don't you know that it is rather unwise to mail as root?

It's difficult to tell, but it appears to be his name.

> Could you send a copy of this spam to the list?  That may help a great
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The real problem is that you didn't see what he was talking about.
Neither did you: you left people to guess what you're talking about.
In fact, he did quote something:

> On 31 Jan, Greg Lehey wrote:
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I think you're both misunderstanding: root for sending out such a
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On Monday,  1 February 1999 at  5:25:48 +1000, Greg Black wrote:
>> In the last few days I've noticed a really high number of collisions
>> on my Ethernet.  There are only 5 machines on the network, 3 of which
>> are barely active, yet I see:
>>
>> (allegro, running 2.2.6-STABLE)
>> ed0   1500  <Link>      00.00.c0.44.a5.68 43729816    45 43861788    12 977828
>> ed0   1500  widecast      allegro         43729816    45 43861788    12 977828
>
> That's only 1.1%.

That's high for a small network.

>> (freebie, running 4.0-CURRENT)
>> Name  Mtu   Network       Address            Ipkts Ierrs    Opkts Oerrs  Coll
>> ed2   1500  <Link>      00.80.48.e6.a0.61 11976144    12 13389307     0 988340
>> ed2   1500  widecast      freebie         11976144    12 13389307     0 988340
>
> And that's only 3.9% -- it's worse than allegro, but not by a
> significant margin for the relatively small amount of traffic.
> On my Ethernet, I have machines that report 0.01%, 9.6%, 0.7%,
> 0.04% and 0.4%.  The outlier is a machine that has been up a few
> hours and was used for a large file transfer which blew its
> average out of the water -- it'll be back to about 1% as time
> goes by.

Then you have problems too.

>> I tried an ftp from panic, copying a file of 45 MB from freebie.  The
>> transfer ran at about 1 MB/s with about 450 collisions per second on
>> the freebie side, none on the panic side.  Here are the values before
>> and after:
>>
>> freebie:
>>           Ipkts Ierrs    Opkts Oerrs  Coll
>> before 11978350    13 13392678     0  989089
>> after  11994616    13 13424921     0 1009912
>> diff      16266     0    32243     0   20823
>>
>> panic:
>>           Ipkts Ierrs    Opkts Oerrs  Coll
>> before      480     0      651     1     0
>> after     32143     0    16679     1     0
>> diff      31663     0    16028     0     0
>>
>> Looking at these results (40% collision rate on freebie), it would
>> seem that something is seriously wrong in the network.  On the other
>> hand, allegro also shows a large number of collisions.  At the moment
>> I'm suspecting the (3 month old) Ethernet board in freebie, but I was
>> wondering if there were other reasons which might apply.
>
> I just did some 10 to 15 MB file transfers with NFS on my LAN (I
> don't have FTP set up), and saw collision rates ranging from 25%
> to 35% for those periods.  I'd say that was pretty normal, given
> the way that Ethernet works. 

No, that's way too high.  Genuine collisions happen on an Ethernet
when two systems want to send a packet within a very small time
window: first they look and listen, and if nothing is there, they
send.  If two send at pretty much *exactly* the same time, there will
be a collision, from which they recover.

If only one machine is sending at a time, there won't be collisions.
If only a few are sending, there won't be many collisions.  In
general, you can consider 1% collisions to be an acceptable number.

There's another thing of interest in this picture: in the example I
showed above, collisions were at 40%.  At this level, traffic on an
Ethernet is becoming highly congested.  Yet I got a transfer rate of
just under 1 MB/s for the transfer, which suggests to me that the
statistics may be bogus.  A thing that just occurs to me is that it's
always the ed driver that reports so many collisions, whereas the
others don't.  What kind of Ethernet board are you using?

> The more interesting statistics are the overall figures over time,
> and the ones you give at the start aren't too bad.  Yes, freebie is
> a bit high -- but 4% compared with 1% is not a big factor,
> especially with the fairly low total amount of traffic.  I'd watch
> it for a bit longer before deciding it was a real problem.  After
> all, if you're getting 1 MB/s on a 10 Mb/s LAN, you're doing pretty
> well :-)

Well, the values for freebie are now:

Name  Mtu   Network       Address            Ipkts Ierrs    Opkts Oerrs  Coll
ed2   1500  <Link>      00.80.48.e6.a0.61 16493376    34 21501269     0 2326175
ed2   1500  widecast      freebie         16493376    34 21501269     0 2326175

Since yesterday, that's 8 million more output packets and 1.3 million
collisions.  That suggests that something might be getting worse.

Greg
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I've run into a strange problem on my 2.2.8 box. When I start user-mode
ppp, it says "Working in Interactive Mode", and just sits there: I never
get a ppp> prompt. Doing a `ps` shows the process as sleeping, and,
eventually, idle. The same thing happens with other network aware
programs like amd and sendmail. HOWEVER, pppd works fine, and once I've
connected to my ISP with it, user mode ppp suddenly works. I've been
working on this for days now, even re-built the world, and I can't
figure it out. Is there something obvious I'm missing?

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I have an ancient Adaptec 1520 sCSI adapter that I just put in my FreeBSD box,
and I thought since I'm still booting GENERIC, I would just boot with "-c" and
enable the device. But it's not there anymore! So I tried to compile a kernel
with this line included:

controller      aic0    at isa? port 0x140 bio irq 11

Then, after running "config", I try to make the dependencies and I get this:

cc: ../../dev/aic6x60/aic.c: No such file or directory
cc: ../../i386/isa/aic_isa.c: No such file or directory

and make dies a horrible death.

Any clue what is going on? "aic" is still listed as supported in LINT, although
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	I think that this means my hard drive is dying, but what does the
following error message indicate?

(da0:ahc0:0:0:0): READ(10). CDB: 28 0 0 77 4c a1 0 0 2 0 
(da0:ahc0:0:0:0): MEDIUM ERROR info:774ca1 csi:ff,ff,ff,ff asc:11,1
(da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Read retries exhausted sks:80,ac

Thank you.


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I had the same thing happen to me using a boot disk I downloaded from
freebsd. I then tried with a different boot disk made from image off of the
cdrom and didn't have the problem


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>Spike wrote:
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>> On Sun, 31 Jan 1999, Brandon Fosdick wrote:
>>
>> > I'm trying to install 3.0-RELEASE on a iP200MMX with 32MB EDO, 8.4GB
IDE, CD-ROM
>> > and LS-120. After it finishes copying from the ftp site it immediately
exits on
>> > signal 11. The debug screen is full of lines that start with "save
userconfig"
>> > interspersed with something about ISA loops. Any ideas?
>>
>> What devices do you have on the ISA bus? What kind of internet connection
>> do you have?
>
>SB16/AWE32, Hercules Stingray 128/3D, 3Com 3C509 Ethernet (campus network)
>I just tried doing a 2.2.8 install and got the same error, but without all
the
>ISA stuff.
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I wrote:

> I'm looking for a *good* 10/100M PCI ethernet card with appropriate
> driver support under FreeBSD/i386. Any recommendations?

Thanks to everybody who replied. Suggestions have been converging on
- Intel EtherExpress Pro 10/100B
- 3Com 905B-TX

Any comments on their respective merits?

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On Saturday, 30 January 1999 at 20:03:11 -0900, Mike Endsley wrote:
> On Sun, 31 Jan 1999, Greg Lehey wrote:
>
>> On Saturday, 30 January 1999 at 19:46:38 -0900, Mike Endsley wrote:
>>> I am trying to install apsfilter, but get that @#^$#$#$% problem with
>>> Imake.tmpl. The problem is that I have Imake.tmpl on my system!
>>> Right now, it is in /usr/compat/linux/var/X11R6/lib/config/Imake.tmpl.
>>> Should I copy it elsewhere? I don't know why it is there.
>>
>> If that's the only place you have it, it looks as if you haven't
>> installed the X11 development software.  You'll need to do that.
>> Don't use the Linux Imake.tmpl, it's not appropriate.
>
> Do you know which tgz file that is? I used Xprog.tgz from my 3.0-R cd.

That should be the one:

$ tar tzvf Xprog.tgz | grep Imake
-r--r--r-- root/wheel    84341 Nov 14 12:15 1998 lib/X11/config/Imake.rules
-r--r--r-- root/wheel    34113 Nov 14 12:15 1998 lib/X11/config/Imake.tmpl
-r--r--r-- root/wheel    14648 Nov 14 12:15 1998 lib/X11/config/Imake.cf

This should end up under /usr/X11R6.  Do you have it there?  Otherwise
you should reinstall the archive.

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Seven machines with the Intel Ether express. No failures in several years.

Jeff


On Mon, Feb 01, 1999 at 04:19:28AM +0100, Christian Weisgerber wrote:
> I wrote:
> 
> > I'm looking for a *good* 10/100M PCI ethernet card with appropriate
> > driver support under FreeBSD/i386. Any recommendations?
> 
> Thanks to everybody who replied. Suggestions have been converging on
> - Intel EtherExpress Pro 10/100B
> - 3Com 905B-TX
> 
> Any comments on their respective merits?
> 
> -- 
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Linux has had a.out support for years...

This is an advantage (since, for example), I just downloaded a binary
for an online service which used a.out linux support and it ran...

You should keep a.out for practical reasons (i.e. libc based programs
should run as binaries programs on a wide range of systems...

When did the elf transition take place?  It wasn't in any of the 3.0-SNAPs
I got up and running (I haven't got a 3.0 system running yet).

> Hi guys,
> Like Greg said, FreeBSD is supporting aout binaries, but not for long.
> If you have an ELF system, that means, Kernel is ELF, All binaries of
> the system are ELF, and all newly compiled binaries, from ports, etc
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> A point here worths mentioning, if you have a choice, select the ELF
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> will make the system tighter, faster, and causing less headaches to
> developers, but will be a period of CHAOS, when a specific binary stop
> working then you find out it was an aout one.
> 
> Happy ELFing.
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I want to thank people who responded to my question about "boot.flp"
being too large to fit on a floppy when using fdimage to create an
install floppy.

However, boot.flp is still too large. 

I really do think I am downloading the file as binary. I am using
Netscape Communicator 4.06, right-clicking on the boot.flp file and
saving it as a file. However, it gets saved just a bit larger than the
floppy size so fdimage won't work.

I have used the same method to download other binary files, such as
QuickTime from the Apple Site (also an ftp:// link) and after downloading
the executable runs just fine and QuickTime installs on the NT machine I
am using.

I even tried changing the name of boot.flp to boot.exe (and then renaming
it back to boot.flp after downloading) just in case the extension was
somehow causing Netscape's FTP protocol to not download the file as
binary.

My question is - are you *really sure* that the current boot.flp is not
too large?

The file size appears to be 1,479,365 bytes. What should it be if I
downloaded it correctly?

Thanks,

Doug Lerner, Tokyo
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Doug wrote:
> 
> I want to thank people who responded to my question about "boot.flp"
> being too large to fit on a floppy when using fdimage to create an
> install floppy.
> 
> However, boot.flp is still too large.
> 
> I really do think I am downloading the file as binary. I am using
> Netscape Communicator 4.06, right-clicking on the boot.flp file and
> saving it as a file. However, it gets saved just a bit larger than the
> floppy size so fdimage won't work.
> 
> I have used the same method to download other binary files, such as
> QuickTime from the Apple Site (also an ftp:// link) and after downloading
> the executable runs just fine and QuickTime installs on the NT machine I
> am using.
> 
> I even tried changing the name of boot.flp to boot.exe (and then renaming
> it back to boot.flp after downloading) just in case the extension was
> somehow causing Netscape's FTP protocol to not download the file as
> binary.
> 
> My question is - are you *really sure* that the current boot.flp is not
> too large?
> 
> The file size appears to be 1,479,365 bytes. What should it be if I
> downloaded it correctly?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Doug Lerner, Tokyo
> doug@inJapan.net

I had the same problem about an hour ago. I had to format the disk first, then
specify the size of the disk on the command line i.e. "fdimage -f 1.44M boot.flp
a:". Now it works fine. Of course I missed the first part of this converation so
hopefully I'm not repeating anybody else's suggestion.

Hope it helps.
Brandon

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Nope, that wasn't it. It will install fine from the CD but anything installed
with FTP gets a signal 11. I've got 2.2.8 on cd and I tried 2.2.8 and 3.0 with
ftp. Maybe I'll just have to order the cd's for 3.0. 

Brandon

Jerry Sloan wrote:
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> I had the same thing happen to me using a boot disk I downloaded from
> freebsd. I then tried with a different boot disk made from image off of the
> cdrom and didn't have the problem
> 
> Jerry
> -----Original Message-----
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> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
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> >> On Sun, 31 Jan 1999, Brandon Fosdick wrote:
> >>
> >> > I'm trying to install 3.0-RELEASE on a iP200MMX with 32MB EDO, 8.4GB
> IDE, CD-ROM
> >> > and LS-120. After it finishes copying from the ftp site it immediately
> exits on
> >> > signal 11. The debug screen is full of lines that start with "save
> userconfig"
> >> > interspersed with something about ISA loops. Any ideas?
> >>
> >> What devices do you have on the ISA bus? What kind of internet connection
> >> do you have?
> >
> >SB16/AWE32, Hercules Stingray 128/3D, 3Com 3C509 Ethernet (campus network)
> >I just tried doing a 2.2.8 install and got the same error, but without all
> the
> >ISA stuff.
> >
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1.44M
I'm also doing it with an LS-120 drive, so that might change something.
-Brandon

Doug wrote:
> 
> Thank you for your reply. What file size is your boot.flp?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Doug Lerner, Tokyo
> doug@inJapan.net
> 
> bfoz@glue.umd.edu,Internet writes:
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> >I had the same problem about an hour ago. I had to format the disk
> first,
> >then
> >specify the size of the disk on the command line i.e. "fdimage -f 1.44M
> >boot.flp
> >a:". Now it works fine.

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What is PicoBSD?

-Brandon
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Hi, everyone:
    There is something wrong with the "/" file system.
After removing a large file, I execute "df", but the result is
as same as before. I use "fsck", it's the same. I have to reboot
the system, the result become correct. The other file systems 
don't have such problem. What should I do?
    Any answer is apprieciated!

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pez# cdrecord -scanbus
Cdrecord release 1.6.1 Copyright (C) 1995-1998 Jörg Schilling
scsibus1:
                100) 'IBM     ' 'DCAS-34330W     ' 'S65A' Disk
                101) *
                102) *
                103) *
                104) 'SEAGATE ' 'ST15230N        ' '0638' Disk
                105) *
                106) 'YAMAHA  ' 'CDR400t         ' '1.0q' Removable CD-ROM
                107) *
pez# ls -s
total 598066
      3 10            3 11            3 12       598056 cd.img        1
src
pez# cdrecord -v -eject speed=2 dev=0,6,0 -isosize cd.img
Cdrecord release 1.6.1 Copyright (C) 1995-1998 Jörg Schilling
TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM
cdrecord: Inappropriate ioctl for device. WARNING: RR-scheduler not
available, disabling.
scsidev: '0,6,0'
scsibus: 0 target: 6 lun: 0
cdrecord: Inappropriate ioctl for device. Cannot open SCSI driver.
pez# uname -a
FreeBSD pez.hyperreal.org 4.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT #2: Sun Jan 31
16:10:47 PST 1999     brian@pez.hyperreal.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/pez 
i386


Did I miss something in my kernel config? 

Thanks for any leads...

	Brian




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On 31 Jan 99, at 14:56, Kyle Mobley wrote:

> my question for you is, were can I find info on ipfw for freebsd? I have
> used it with Linux but never with freebsd and I believe it is different.
> 
> Can someone direct me to a web site that will show me how to set it up?
> Perferably a site that tells how to do it as easy as possible?

Yep, try my website, look under the topics page for firewalls.  There's 
stuf there on ipfw and ipfilter.  Please tell me if something doesn't make 
sense.  

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Hi,

is it possible to have a sendmail server only queue mail for a domain?
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Thank you for your reply. What file size is your boot.flp?

Thanks,

Doug Lerner, Tokyo
doug@inJapan.net

bfoz@glue.umd.edu,Internet writes:

>I had the same problem about an hour ago. I had to format the disk
first,
>then
>specify the size of the disk on the command line i.e. "fdimage -f 1.44M
>boot.flp
>a:". Now it works fine. 




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programs could have been using $HOME/temp
or something like that...
would not it be more appropriate?

On Sun, 31 Jan 1999, Jasper O'Malley wrote:

> On Sun, 31 Jan 1999, Evren Yurtesen wrote:
> 
> > hello,
> > why does /tmp directory has 777 permissions ?
> 
> So there's an appropriate place for everyone to stick temp files. A lot of
> programs break, or at least lose some functionality, if it doesn't have
> 1777 permissions.
> 
> > what if somebody fills this directory with stuff?
> 
> Put it on it's own filesystem; put user quotas on it, as well.
> 
> Cheers,
> Mick
> 
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hello, as I know, boot.flp file should be 1474560 bytes
I am sending a boot.flp file of 3.0-RELEASE with email.
I hope it would work for you

On Mon, 1 Feb 1999, Doug wrote:

> I want to thank people who responded to my question about "boot.flp"
> being too large to fit on a floppy when using fdimage to create an
> install floppy.
> 
> However, boot.flp is still too large. 
> 
> I really do think I am downloading the file as binary. I am using
> Netscape Communicator 4.06, right-clicking on the boot.flp file and
> saving it as a file. However, it gets saved just a bit larger than the
> floppy size so fdimage won't work.
> 
> I have used the same method to download other binary files, such as
> QuickTime from the Apple Site (also an ftp:// link) and after downloading
> the executable runs just fine and QuickTime installs on the NT machine I
> am using.
> 
> I even tried changing the name of boot.flp to boot.exe (and then renaming
> it back to boot.flp after downloading) just in case the extension was
> somehow causing Netscape's FTP protocol to not download the file as
> binary.
> 
> My question is - are you *really sure* that the current boot.flp is not
> too large?
> 
> The file size appears to be 1,479,365 bytes. What should it be if I
> downloaded it correctly?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Doug Lerner, Tokyo
> doug@inJapan.net
> 
> 
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so if this is not an error message, why does it show up
just for the da1 drive? not for da0 ?
because I have the same model disk drives for da1 and da0
(even same capacity, and had been bought at the same time)
and why does it in bright white font color ?
may I set how many tagged commands should be queued from kernel?

On Sun, 31 Jan 1999, Karl Pielorz wrote:

> 
> > (da1:ahc0:0:1:0): tagged openings now 32
> > (da1:ahc0:0:1:0): tagged openings now 31
> > 
> > what does this mean exactly?
> > is this an error message ?
> 
> It's an informational message - It means the CAM SCSI drivers have been able
> to 'stack' up to 31 pending commands on your Drive. The higher the number the
> better...
> 
> The exact max value is determined by the drive... You 'generally' tend to find
> the better drives are able to handle more queued commands...  You can on the
> whole ignore the message - It will only appear when the drive is initially
> thrashed for the first time since reboot...
> 
> -Kp
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I like to open lots of xterms, but I've found that once I have 16 ptys in
use, I can't spawn any more.  I've rebuilt my kernel with:

pseudo-device	pty 32

And I know I have enough pty device entries in /dev, but I still run into
the 16-pty limit. How can I fix this?

Thanks in advance,

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Hi,
i want to recompile my kernel but i don't have the original conf file.....
is there a command which gets the kernel to spit out the settings
with which it was compiled??? or am i just an eager young hopeful
<smile>....
thanks
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Nope, that's not really better. Some might consider it worse. For
instance, having root's temp files show up on / would generally be
considered bad. More concretely, what do you do if $HOME isn't set, or
$HOME/temp doesn't exist (user delete it, or you're at a single-user
boot, trying to fix fstab to add a disk, or ....)? The programs
shouldn't just give up, but should do something intelligent.

Many programs these days use something like $TMPDIR if it exists, or
/tmp if it doesn't. That's better in that it gives you a bit more
control over where the temp files go, and includes a fallback
behavior.

	<mike

On Mon, 1 Feb 1999, Evren Yurtesen wrote:

> Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 07:41:56 +0200 (EET)
> From: Evren Yurtesen <yurtesen@turkey.ispro.net.tr>
> To: Jasper O'Malley <jooji@webnology.com>
> Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> Subject: Re: why does /tmp world writable?
> 
> programs could have been using $HOME/temp
> or something like that...
> would not it be more appropriate?
> 
> On Sun, 31 Jan 1999, Jasper O'Malley wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, 31 Jan 1999, Evren Yurtesen wrote:
> > 
> > > hello,
> > > why does /tmp directory has 777 permissions ?
> > 
> > So there's an appropriate place for everyone to stick temp files. A lot of
> > programs break, or at least lose some functionality, if it doesn't have
> > 1777 permissions.
> > 
> > > what if somebody fills this directory with stuff?
> > 
> > Put it on it's own filesystem; put user quotas on it, as well.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Mick
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> > The Reverend Jasper P. O'Malley          dotdot:jooji@webnology.com
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Unix keeps files around as long as there is a pointer to them. You
could have a hard link on / to that file, or a program that has it
open. Soft links won't keep the file around.

Most likely, it's a program. Find and kill the program that has the
file open (fstat may be of use here). If you can't find it, shut down
to single user and see what's still running.

	<mike

On Mon, 1 Feb 1999 caijj@trans.hk.hi.cn wrote:

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> Hi, everyone:
>     There is something wrong with the "/" file system.
> After removing a large file, I execute "df", but the result is
> as same as before. I use "fsck", it's the same. I have to reboot
> the system, the result become correct. The other file systems 
> don't have such problem. What should I do?
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Tip can do a large part of this job for you. Check out the man pages
for modems(5) and remote(5), which describe how to configure tip for
this.

If you want it to automatically log in and run things after it's
connected, the previously recommended 'chat' or 'expect' programs will
probably work better.

	<mike

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> Hello!
> 
> I need to automate things to give several commands to my modem.
> Now I can do it with "tip", but it requires manual typing commands.
> Is there any programs which can take a "script file" as an argument and
> then connect to modem and to pass these commands to it?
> 
> Thank you in advance,
> Dima.
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I don't have sources to xterm, but you might look there and see how
it's finding pty's. Last time I poked at this stuff, the programs had
a loop to find an unused pty, and if xterm isn't looking beyond 16 of
them, that would cause the problem. Doesn't sound very likely to me,
though.

	<mike

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> Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 22:24:45 -0800 (PST)
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> Subject: Increasing the pty limit
> 
> I like to open lots of xterms, but I've found that once I have 16 ptys in
> use, I can't spawn any more.  I've rebuilt my kernel with:
> 
> pseudo-device	pty 32
> 
> And I know I have enough pty device entries in /dev, but I still run into
> the 16-pty limit. How can I fix this?
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
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On Monday,  1 February 1999 at  7:49:13 +0200, Evren Yurtesen wrote:
> On Mon, 1 Feb 1999, Doug wrote:
>> I want to thank people who responded to my question about "boot.flp"
>> being too large to fit on a floppy when using fdimage to create an
>> install floppy.
>>
>> However, boot.flp is still too large.
>>
>> I really do think I am downloading the file as binary. I am using
>> Netscape Communicator 4.06, right-clicking on the boot.flp file and
>> saving it as a file. However, it gets saved just a bit larger than the
>> floppy size so fdimage won't work.
>>
>> I have used the same method to download other binary files, such as
>> QuickTime from the Apple Site (also an ftp:// link) and after downloading
>> the executable runs just fine and QuickTime installs on the NT machine I
>> am using.
>>
>> I even tried changing the name of boot.flp to boot.exe (and then renaming
>> it back to boot.flp after downloading) just in case the extension was
>> somehow causing Netscape's FTP protocol to not download the file as
>> binary.
>>
>> My question is - are you *really sure* that the current boot.flp is not
>> too large?

Yes.

>> The file size appears to be 1,479,365 bytes. What should it be if I
>> downloaded it correctly?
>
> hello, as I know, boot.flp file should be 1474560 bytes
> I am sending a boot.flp file of 3.0-RELEASE with email.
> I hope it would work for you

People, web browsers and mailers aren't designed for copying binary
images.  ftp is.  Why don't you use it?

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On Sun, 31 Jan 1999, Mike Meyer wrote:

> I don't have sources to xterm, but you might look there and see how
> it's finding pty's. Last time I poked at this stuff, the programs had
> a loop to find an unused pty, and if xterm isn't looking beyond 16 of
> them, that would cause the problem. Doesn't sound very likely to me,
> though.

When I said xterm, I was using it as a generic term -- I actually use a
mix of Eterm and kvt.  This limit also seems to sometimes affect man (I
get "cannot fork"), and sometimes not.

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On Sunday, 31 January 1999 at 22:24:45 -0800, Brian W. Buchanan wrote:
> I like to open lots of xterms, but I've found that once I have 16 ptys in
> use, I can't spawn any more.  I've rebuilt my kernel with:
>
> pseudo-device	pty 32
>
> And I know I have enough pty device entries in /dev, but I still run into
> the 16-pty limit.

How do you know you're running into the 16 pty limit?  What's the
message?  What are the names of your second group of 16 ptys?

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Hello

my freebsd is connected to printer and installed CD rom.
how do i share two resources to other computers (one is freebsd + one is
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On %M 0, Leo Kliger <leo@astea.com.au> wrote:
> Hi,
> i want to recompile my kernel but i don't have the original conf file.....
> is there a command which gets the kernel to spit out the settings
> with which it was compiled??? or am i just an eager young hopeful
> <smile>....
> thanks
> Leo

IF you compiled the kernel in questions with :

options         INCLUDE_CONFIG_FILE

You can do this command on the kernel to get the config file :

strings /kernel |grep ^___ | sed -e 's/^___//'


Other than that, your on your own. :)


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answer to one of your questions, and one of my own:

> - creating alias.yourname.com accounts and 

if you have user fred, and you want fred to get mail for fsmith and
fred_smith, add the following to /etc/aliases

# fred aliases
fsmith:  	fred
fred_smith:     fred

or if someone without an account wants to have an alias, add:

#external aliases
fsmith:		fred@realmail.com
fred_smith:	fred@realmail.com


then after either of these, at a prompt type
newaliases


now i have a question for everyone. i have about 20 users with shell and
email accounts. i made an alias like:

all_users:		joe,john,susan,dave,mark,mike,charlie

to send email to all my users.
but there's a few problems with this:
1) it doesn't scale well. if i ever have 100+ users, it will be very hard
to figure out if someone is not in that alias, and its a lot of overhead
hassle to add and subtract names from it manually every time i add or
remove a user
2)anyone in the world can spam all my users by sending mail to all_users

is there a simpler/better way to send email to all users?

thanks

joe
joe@joe.to
www.joe.to



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Maximize your website's traffic.
INCREASE YOUR SEARCH ENGINE RANK!

If your Web site isn't getting the traffic it should, it's likely
that it's not ranked well on the major Internet search engines. 

According to recent Internet E-commerce studies, over 90% of 
consumers find the Web sites they visit by using eight major 
search engines, which are Yahoo!, Excite, AltaVista, Infoseek, 
Lycos, Web Crawler, HotBot, and Northern Light.

If your website isn't located in the top-30 listings of these 
engines, chances are your site will never be seen.

The single most important thing you can do to increase your Web 
site's traffic is to increase your search engine ranking.



-------------

"PUT YOUR NAME IN LIGHTS -- List your business with search 
engines to make sure potential customers can find it."

           -- BIZ Excite, PC Computing magazine, November 1998




-------------

THE BASICS: HOW SEARCH ENGINES RANK YOUR SITE

When you submit your website to a search engine to be indexed in 
its database, it sends a "robot" to scan your page. 

Using complex algorithms to rank your page for keyword 
relevance, the "robot" determines whether you'll be ranked number 
1 or 1,000,000 when potential visitors conduct a search looking 
for sites like yours.

Because the search engines are constantly changing their 
algorithms to provide users with the best possible search
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In short, submission alone isn't enough. *Good search engine 
ranking* is critical to your site's success. 




-------------

HERE'S WHAT WE DO -- A UNIQUE, SUCCESSFUL APPROACH

In order to counter the ever-changing search engine algorithms,
we create an entire series of "entry pages" that are optimized 
for the search engines--one for every keyword (or keyword phrase) 
that you provide. 

Each entry page is optimized for a different set of algorithm 
variables. 

In other words, instead of having only *one* page struggling to 
rank well on all engines, we create separate, search
engine-specific entry pages for each keyword.

As a result, your pages rank well because they contain
information relevant to search queries that are related to your 
industry. 




-------------

HOW ENTRY PAGES AFFECT YOUR WEB SITE'S CURRENT STRUCTURE

Put simply, they don't.

When creating entry pages we *do not* make any changes to the 
existing structure, content, or functionality of your current
site. 

The entry pages act as a welcome screen for your Web site when 
people enter from your highly ranked link on the search engine.

The pages will say a few introductory words about your site,
which are keyword and/or keyword phrase rich, and then provide 
a link that asks the visitor to "Click Here To Enter," which 
moves them directly to your current homepage. 





------------

HERE'S WHAT WE DON'T *EVER* DO TO HELP YOUR SEARCH ENGINE RANK

We *will not* build pages for irrelevant--yet
"popular"--keywords. 

Also, we will *never* "spamdex" pages. "Spamdexing" is "stuffing"
a Web page full of words for the search engine's robots. You may
have seen spamdexing, which is placing many words in the same 
text color as a background onto a Web page. Spamdexing will 
actually get your pages "kicked" from search engine indexes.

What we *will* do is simply present very relevant keywords for
your site to the search engines in the way that they "like" to 
see it. 





-------------

"It's simple: If they can't find you on the search engines,
they can't buy from you."

                -- J. LeRoss, Internet Sales Consultant



------------

HOW WELL DOES THE SERVICE WORK?

We'll send you a detailed report of your current search engine 
ranking on "The Big Six" engines before we begin. 

Then, once your new entry pages have been indexed, we'll send 
you a second report showing how they've ranked. 

Here's a sampling of some results we've acheived for previous 
clients. (These examples are for competitive keywords--not just 
obscure words on which no one is conducting searches.)


<> 6 top-10 rankings on Infoseek for different relevant keywords

<> 18 top-10 rankings across the major search engines

<> 3 top-10 rankings on Alta Vista for one keyword

<> 16 total *number one* rankings

<> 40 top-30 rankings, spread across the different engines.

<> 1 to 2 hits per week increased to 500 per day

<> 45,000 hits per month grew to 108,000.




------------

HOW MUCH DOES YOUR SERVICE COST?

Our basic services start at only $385. The basic package 
includes:

<> Construction of optimized entry pages for up to 20 keywords
     -- This gives you good "coverage" in your industry

<> Submission of the keyword-dense entry pages to the "Big Six" 
     search engines


When you contact us, ask about other services we provide that 
may be able to help your Internet initiatives succeed.

We have special services that can be tailored for your specific
Internet marketing needs.





------------

HOW DO I GET STARTED?

<> Call us--we'll answer any questions you may have and provide
     a no-cost initial consultation.      (310) 859-4659 

<> Submit your keywords and/or keyword phrases (up to 20) to us




------------

COMMENTS FROM CLIENTS 

"Frankly, I'm impressed with the foregoing.
  
So many solicitations from email sources turn out to be a phone
line that hooks up to a voice mail system that is designed to 
give the impression of size, and people who never return phone 
calls/messages. . . So its a pleasant surprise to find that 
someone at the other end is really operating as a business!!!"
--Alan B.

"Incredible! Our site is now receiving more hits in a day than 
we used to get in an entire month. [My boss] is still eating his 
words." -- Bob W.

"I knew the search engines were a fantastic marketing tool, but
my company simply didn't have the time to devote to search engine 
placement. It has proven to be the best money we've ever spent on 
marketing." -- Shelley H.

"I worked for weeks to get good search engine placement, but I 
could never crack the top 80 . . . my site was deserted. Within a 
month [after using your service], I'd had more hits than I'd had 
in the last year. I wouldn't believe it if it hadn't happened to 
me." -- Chris L.





------------

OUR JOB: INCREASE YOUR WEB SITE'S RANKING.

We can't guarantee that better ranking will increase the number
of visitors that "surf" to your Web site. 

Some highly-ranked websites still don't get much traffic--much 
depends on your particular industry and choice of keywords.

However, high rankings, in most cases, do mean increased Web 
site traffic.

And, we have never failed to increase a client's ranking. Ever.




------------

CONTACT A REPRESENTATIVE:

Search Engine Success Group  -  Call us at: 

                             (310) 859-4659    









-----------------------
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Maximize your website's traffic.
INCREASE YOUR SEARCH ENGINE RANK!

If your Web site isn't getting the traffic it should, it's likely
that it's not ranked well on the major Internet search engines. 

According to recent Internet E-commerce studies, over 90% of 
consumers find the Web sites they visit by using eight major 
search engines, which are Yahoo!, Excite, AltaVista, Infoseek, 
Lycos, Web Crawler, HotBot, and Northern Light.

If your website isn't located in the top-30 listings of these 
engines, chances are your site will never be seen.

The single most important thing you can do to increase your Web 
site's traffic is to increase your search engine ranking.



-------------

"PUT YOUR NAME IN LIGHTS -- List your business with search 
engines to make sure potential customers can find it."

           -- BIZ Excite, PC Computing magazine, November 1998




-------------

THE BASICS: HOW SEARCH ENGINES RANK YOUR SITE

When you submit your website to a search engine to be indexed in 
its database, it sends a "robot" to scan your page. 

Using complex algorithms to rank your page for keyword 
relevance, the "robot" determines whether you'll be ranked number 
1 or 1,000,000 when potential visitors conduct a search looking 
for sites like yours.

Because the search engines are constantly changing their 
algorithms to provide users with the best possible search
results, there's only one true solution to high search 
engine placement--us.

In short, submission alone isn't enough. *Good search engine 
ranking* is critical to your site's success. 




-------------

HERE'S WHAT WE DO -- A UNIQUE, SUCCESSFUL APPROACH

In order to counter the ever-changing search engine algorithms,
we create an entire series of "entry pages" that are optimized 
for the search engines--one for every keyword (or keyword phrase) 
that you provide. 

Each entry page is optimized for a different set of algorithm 
variables. 

In other words, instead of having only *one* page struggling to 
rank well on all engines, we create separate, search
engine-specific entry pages for each keyword.

As a result, your pages rank well because they contain
information relevant to search queries that are related to your 
industry. 




-------------

HOW ENTRY PAGES AFFECT YOUR WEB SITE'S CURRENT STRUCTURE

Put simply, they don't.

When creating entry pages we *do not* make any changes to the 
existing structure, content, or functionality of your current
site. 

The entry pages act as a welcome screen for your Web site when 
people enter from your highly ranked link on the search engine.

The pages will say a few introductory words about your site,
which are keyword and/or keyword phrase rich, and then provide 
a link that asks the visitor to "Click Here To Enter," which 
moves them directly to your current homepage. 





------------

HERE'S WHAT WE DON'T *EVER* DO TO HELP YOUR SEARCH ENGINE RANK

We *will not* build pages for irrelevant--yet
"popular"--keywords. 

Also, we will *never* "spamdex" pages. "Spamdexing" is "stuffing"
a Web page full of words for the search engine's robots. You may
have seen spamdexing, which is placing many words in the same 
text color as a background onto a Web page. Spamdexing will 
actually get your pages "kicked" from search engine indexes.

What we *will* do is simply present very relevant keywords for
your site to the search engines in the way that they "like" to 
see it. 





-------------

"It's simple: If they can't find you on the search engines,
they can't buy from you."

                -- J. LeRoss, Internet Sales Consultant



------------

HOW WELL DOES THE SERVICE WORK?

We'll send you a detailed report of your current search engine 
ranking on "The Big Six" engines before we begin. 

Then, once your new entry pages have been indexed, we'll send 
you a second report showing how they've ranked. 

Here's a sampling of some results we've acheived for previous 
clients. (These examples are for competitive keywords--not just 
obscure words on which no one is conducting searches.)


<> 6 top-10 rankings on Infoseek for different relevant keywords

<> 18 top-10 rankings across the major search engines

<> 3 top-10 rankings on Alta Vista for one keyword

<> 16 total *number one* rankings

<> 40 top-30 rankings, spread across the different engines.

<> 1 to 2 hits per week increased to 500 per day

<> 45,000 hits per month grew to 108,000.




------------

HOW MUCH DOES YOUR SERVICE COST?

Our basic services start at only $385. The basic package 
includes:

<> Construction of optimized entry pages for up to 20 keywords
     -- This gives you good "coverage" in your industry

<> Submission of the keyword-dense entry pages to the "Big Six" 
     search engines


When you contact us, ask about other services we provide that 
may be able to help your Internet initiatives succeed.

We have special services that can be tailored for your specific
Internet marketing needs.





------------

HOW DO I GET STARTED?

<> Call us--we'll answer any questions you may have and provide
     a no-cost initial consultation.      (888) 283-2050 

<> Submit your keywords and/or keyword phrases (up to 20) to us




------------

COMMENTS FROM CLIENTS 

"Frankly, I'm impressed with the foregoing.
  
So many solicitations from email sources turn out to be a phone
line that hooks up to a voice mail system that is designed to 
give the impression of size, and people who never return phone 
calls/messages. . . So its a pleasant surprise to find that 
someone at the other end is really operating as a business!!!"
--Alan B.

"Incredible! Our site is now receiving more hits in a day than 
we used to get in an entire month. [My boss] is still eating his 
words." -- Bob W.

"I knew the search engines were a fantastic marketing tool, but
my company simply didn't have the time to devote to search engine 
placement. It has proven to be the best money we've ever spent on 
marketing." -- Shelley H.

"I worked for weeks to get good search engine placement, but I 
could never crack the top 80 . . . my site was deserted. Within a 
month [after using your service], I'd had more hits than I'd had 
in the last year. I wouldn't believe it if it hadn't happened to 
me." -- Chris L.





------------

OUR JOB: INCREASE YOUR WEB SITE'S RANKING.

We can't guarantee that better ranking will increase the number
of visitors that "surf" to your Web site. 

Some highly-ranked websites still don't get much traffic--much 
depends on your particular industry and choice of keywords.

However, high rankings, in most cases, do mean increased Web 
site traffic.

And, we have never failed to increase a client's ranking. Ever.




------------

CONTACT A REPRESENTATIVE:

Search Engine Success Group  -  Call us at: 

                              (888) 283-2050    









-----------------------
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On 99.2.1 9:27 AM, grog@lemis.com wrote:
>People, web browsers and mailers aren't designed for copying binary
>images.  ftp is.  Why don't you use it?

I was behind a firewall without a separate FTP proxy server running. The 
FTP links from browsers had been working (as I mentioned, I just downloaded 
QuickTime from an ftp:// link and it worked fine) so I was trying to do the 
same thing with boot.flp

I have the proper boot.flp now though.

Thanks,

doug


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Evren Yurtesen wrote:
> 
> so if this is not an error message, why does it show up
> just for the da1 drive? not for da0 ?

Are you accessing them both as much? The message only appears when the drive
gets busy, as the system tends to queue more commands then...

> because I have the same model disk drives for da1 and da0
> (even same capacity, and had been bought at the same time)
> and why does it in bright white font color ?

It's in bright-white as it's sent to the system console, any console messages
tend to show up in bright white...

> may I set how many tagged commands should be queued from kernel?

Not easily, you'd generally only want to do this for drives that have problems
with their firmware and exhibit problems with command queues etc.

-Kp

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On Sun, Jan 31, 1999 at 10:45:06AM -0800, Steve Proctor wrote:
> Anyone have any problems with the 3.0 stable screen saver?  Ever since I
> installed it I cannot get it to come one.  I have it enabled in rc.conf
> and use a 300 second delay and tell it to use snake.  I even tried stars
> :)  Its always worked in the past with 2.2.x so anyone have any ideas?
> 
> Thanks,
> Steve Proctor
> sproctor@microline.org

Try to lower timeout (vidcontrol -t 5 </dev/ttyv0), and see
whether your saver works.

If no, check:
- whether you have `pseudo-device splash' in your kernel config
- whether you have /modules/${saver}_saver.ko

One more thing I noticed.  Whenever a message is displayed on
your current vty, saver will stop.  So, if your active vty is
console (/dev/ttyv0), saver will stop every time a message is
put on console.

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Leo Kliger wrote:
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> Hi All,
> i want to rebuild the kernel on two 2.1.5 machines but i don't have the
> source...... does anybody out there know how i can get it.....
> Leo
> PS. before you say it, I'm not looking to upgrade just yet..... thanks

Hi Leo,

Are they not still available at ftp://ftp.freebsd.org?

If not, I've still got a 2.1.5 CD set (I'm 99.5% sure it's 2.1.5) but
it's at work. If all else fails I could put the kernel source files on
my Web site for you to download, but I'm not at work today so it'll be
tomorrow at the earlist.

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Hi All!

Does running make fetch on a port pull in all the distribution files for
all the dependancies, or just the main directory.

For example, if I wish to download gnome-libs I don't want to go and make
fetch in all of the depends directories (especially since I'm doing an
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nicely).

Iain.

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Hello, 

I am looking for an IP telephony application for FreeBSD (or a voice
over IP application where I could set the buffer to zero. For some
reasons, I want the buffer to be as small as possible to reduce the
delay).


Does anyboby know such an application ?

I have already tried to have a look in the ports collection, but all I
could find is some voice over IP applications with quite big buffer each
time...

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i have a 66mhz laptop and i want to install freebsd on it.  I have just
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http://www.freebsd.org/~picobsd/

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Hello,

I'm trying to install 3.0 Stable. Since it seems the Floppy-Image ist still
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Last try was: Editing the String in "Options" wich says 2.2.8-RELEASE in
3.0-RELEASE and starting the install procedure again.

Q1: does this have any chance of working well?

Q2: Which filesystem do I have then, and how ca I figure that out?

Thanks a lot,

yours,

guenther

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On 1 Feb 1999, Christian Weisgerber wrote:

> > Any clue what is going on? "aic" is still listed as supported in LINT, although
> > someone has prepended the above line with "#!CAM#",
> 
> This is one of the old drivers that haven't been rewritten yet to fit
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The old SCSI subsystem is still part of FreeBSD, isn't it?

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> programs could have been using $HOME/temp
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> would not it be more appropriate?

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> Frederik Boullart wrote:
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> Hello
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> Is there a boot disk available like in dos? (so, just the files needed
> to start up in linux, 

No, but we have the files to make a boot floppy that starts up FreeBSD.
The Linux folks might have the files to start Linux.

> not the graphical shell, only the dos-alike
> part).  I need this to practice my unix lessons from school.
> 
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> >> In the last few days I've noticed a really high number of collisions
> >> on my Ethernet.  There are only 5 machines on the network, 3 of which
> >> are barely active, yet I see:
> >>
> >> (allegro, running 2.2.6-STABLE)
> >> ed0   1500  <Link>      00.00.c0.44.a5.68 43729816    45 43861788    12 977828
> >> ed0   1500  widecast      allegro         43729816    45 43861788    12 977828
> >
> > That's only 1.1%.
> 
> That's high for a small network.

Well, that's not my understanding.  I'd have considered anything
from 0.1% to 2.0% to be reasonable.

> >> (freebie, running 4.0-CURRENT)
> >> Name  Mtu   Network       Address            Ipkts Ierrs    Opkts Oerrs  Coll
> >> ed2   1500  <Link>      00.80.48.e6.a0.61 11976144    12 13389307     0 988340
> >> ed2   1500  widecast      freebie         11976144    12 13389307     0 988340
> >
> > And that's only 3.9% -- it's worse than allegro, but not by a
> > significant margin for the relatively small amount of traffic.
> > On my Ethernet, I have machines that report 0.01%, 9.6%, 0.7%,
> > 0.04% and 0.4%.  The outlier is a machine that has been up a few
> > hours and was used for a large file transfer which blew its
> > average out of the water -- it'll be back to about 1% as time
> > goes by.
> 
> Then you have problems too.

I don't perceive any problems.  And I'm hard pressed to believe
that an Ethernet that runs at pretty much its rated speed and
has collisions below 1% for all the significant data has
problems -- but maybe that's a matter of different opinions.

> > I just did some 10 to 15 MB file transfers with NFS on my LAN (I
> > don't have FTP set up), and saw collision rates ranging from 25%
> > to 35% for those periods.  I'd say that was pretty normal, given
> > the way that Ethernet works. 
> 
> No, that's way too high.  Genuine collisions happen on an Ethernet
> when two systems want to send a packet within a very small time
> window: first they look and listen, and if nothing is there, they
> send.  If two send at pretty much *exactly* the same time, there will
> be a collision, from which they recover.

Surely an ftp transfer involves plenty of packets going in
*both* directions and so can be expected to produce a fair
number of collisions?

> If only one machine is sending at a time, there won't be collisions.
> If only a few are sending, there won't be many collisions.  In
> general, you can consider 1% collisions to be an acceptable number.

I reported 1% collisions above, but you said I had problems.
I'm not sure what level of collisions you feel represents a
problem.  As I understand the way it works, errors are a problem
but collisions are ok in some (smallish) numbers.

> There's another thing of interest in this picture: in the example I
> showed above, collisions were at 40%.  At this level, traffic on an
> Ethernet is becoming highly congested.  Yet I got a transfer rate of
> just under 1 MB/s for the transfer, which suggests to me that the
> statistics may be bogus.  A thing that just occurs to me is that it's
> always the ed driver that reports so many collisions, whereas the
> others don't.  What kind of Ethernet board are you using?

Here are some data from my Ethernet:

maxim         up 73+01:12,     0 users,  load 0.05, 0.07, 0.07
alice         up 30+06:32,     2 users,  load 0.13, 0.09, 0.08
alpha         up  4+03:55,     3 users,  load 0.13, 0.09, 0.03
bravo         up  4+03:55,     0 users,  load 0.00, 0.00, 0.00

Name  Mtu   Network     Address               Ipkts Ierrs     Opkts Oerrs  Coll
ef0   1500  <link1>     00:60:08:ac:d7:1b   5781293    16  11978534    12  7189
ef0   1500  203.9.155.2 maxim               5781293    16  11978534    12  7189
ef0   1500  192.168.1   192.168.1.1         5781293    16  11978534    12  7189

Name  Mtu   Network     Address               Ipkts Ierrs     Opkts Oerrs  Coll
eb0   1500  <link1>     00:60:08:a8:17:5d   4898485     1   2485013     0 52390
eb0   1500  203.9.155.2 alice               4898485     1   2485013     0 52390
eb0   1500  192.168.1   192.168.1.2         4898485     1   2485013     0 52390

Name  Mtu   Network       Address            Ipkts Ierrs    Opkts Oerrs  Coll
xl0   1500  <Link>      00.10.4b.18.1f.b9    25057     0    26207     0  4340
xl0   1500  192.168.1     alpha              25057     0    26207     0  4340

Name  Mtu   Network       Address            Ipkts Ierrs    Opkts Oerrs  Coll
xl0   1500  <Link>      00.10.4b.18.1f.a8    15808     0     8428     0     2
xl0   1500  192.168.1     bravo              15808     0     8428     0     2

maxim is an old 486-33 running BSD/OS-3.1 with a 3C509, alice is
a Pentium-166 running BSD/OS-3.1 with a 3C900, alpha and bravo
are Celeron-300A's running FreeBSD-2.2.8-Release with 3C900B's.
The errors on maxim were from the time when it booted and the
rest of the LAN was out to lunch.  The others all booted more
recently on to a live network.  The experiments I tried with the
NFS copies were between alpha and alice and bumped alpha's
collisions from virtually zero to the present figure.

> > The more interesting statistics are the overall figures over time,
> > and the ones you give at the start aren't too bad.  Yes, freebie is
> > a bit high -- but 4% compared with 1% is not a big factor,
> > especially with the fairly low total amount of traffic.  I'd watch
> > it for a bit longer before deciding it was a real problem.  After
> > all, if you're getting 1 MB/s on a 10 Mb/s LAN, you're doing pretty
> > well :-)
> 
> Well, the values for freebie are now:
> 
> Name  Mtu   Network       Address            Ipkts Ierrs    Opkts Oerrs  Coll
> ed2   1500  <Link>      00.80.48.e6.a0.61 16493376    34 21501269     0 2326175
> ed2   1500  widecast      freebie         16493376    34 21501269     0 2326175
> 
> Since yesterday, that's 8 million more output packets and 1.3 million
> collisions.  That suggests that something might be getting worse.

Yes, it does look as though it's getting worse.  You may indeed
have a fault somewhere.  I'd certainly check the cables first,
and try swapping some of them around before pulling cards from
machines.  (I have to pull video cards from five machines
tomorrow to swap them for something that works with FreeBSD, so
I'm a bit jaundiced about pulling cards at the moment :-) )

Greg

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   Anything less than 50% collision rate is okay and doesn't reduce the
throughput significantly. All of the numbers below are in the noise.

-DG

David Greenman
Co-founder/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project

>> >> In the last few days I've noticed a really high number of collisions
>> >> on my Ethernet.  There are only 5 machines on the network, 3 of which
>> >> are barely active, yet I see:
>> >>
>> >> (allegro, running 2.2.6-STABLE)
>> >> ed0   1500  <Link>      00.00.c0.44.a5.68 43729816    45 43861788    12 977828
>> >> ed0   1500  widecast      allegro         43729816    45 43861788    12 977828
>> >
>> > That's only 1.1%.
>> 
>> That's high for a small network.
>
>Well, that's not my understanding.  I'd have considered anything
>from 0.1% to 2.0% to be reasonable.
>
>> >> (freebie, running 4.0-CURRENT)
>> >> Name  Mtu   Network       Address            Ipkts Ierrs    Opkts Oerrs  Coll
>> >> ed2   1500  <Link>      00.80.48.e6.a0.61 11976144    12 13389307     0 988340
>> >> ed2   1500  widecast      freebie         11976144    12 13389307     0 988340
>> >
>> > And that's only 3.9% -- it's worse than allegro, but not by a
>> > significant margin for the relatively small amount of traffic.
>> > On my Ethernet, I have machines that report 0.01%, 9.6%, 0.7%,
>> > 0.04% and 0.4%.  The outlier is a machine that has been up a few
>> > hours and was used for a large file transfer which blew its
>> > average out of the water -- it'll be back to about 1% as time
>> > goes by.
>> 
>> Then you have problems too.
>
>I don't perceive any problems.  And I'm hard pressed to believe
>that an Ethernet that runs at pretty much its rated speed and
>has collisions below 1% for all the significant data has
>problems -- but maybe that's a matter of different opinions.
>
>> > I just did some 10 to 15 MB file transfers with NFS on my LAN (I
>> > don't have FTP set up), and saw collision rates ranging from 25%
>> > to 35% for those periods.  I'd say that was pretty normal, given
>> > the way that Ethernet works. 
>> 
>> No, that's way too high.  Genuine collisions happen on an Ethernet
>> when two systems want to send a packet within a very small time
>> window: first they look and listen, and if nothing is there, they
>> send.  If two send at pretty much *exactly* the same time, there will
>> be a collision, from which they recover.
>
>Surely an ftp transfer involves plenty of packets going in
>*both* directions and so can be expected to produce a fair
>number of collisions?
>
>> If only one machine is sending at a time, there won't be collisions.
>> If only a few are sending, there won't be many collisions.  In
>> general, you can consider 1% collisions to be an acceptable number.
>
>I reported 1% collisions above, but you said I had problems.
>I'm not sure what level of collisions you feel represents a
>problem.  As I understand the way it works, errors are a problem
>but collisions are ok in some (smallish) numbers.
>
>> There's another thing of interest in this picture: in the example I
>> showed above, collisions were at 40%.  At this level, traffic on an
>> Ethernet is becoming highly congested.  Yet I got a transfer rate of
>> just under 1 MB/s for the transfer, which suggests to me that the
>> statistics may be bogus.  A thing that just occurs to me is that it's
>> always the ed driver that reports so many collisions, whereas the
>> others don't.  What kind of Ethernet board are you using?
>
>Here are some data from my Ethernet:
>
>maxim         up 73+01:12,     0 users,  load 0.05, 0.07, 0.07
>alice         up 30+06:32,     2 users,  load 0.13, 0.09, 0.08
>alpha         up  4+03:55,     3 users,  load 0.13, 0.09, 0.03
>bravo         up  4+03:55,     0 users,  load 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
>
>Name  Mtu   Network     Address               Ipkts Ierrs     Opkts Oerrs  Coll
>ef0   1500  <link1>     00:60:08:ac:d7:1b   5781293    16  11978534    12  7189
>ef0   1500  203.9.155.2 maxim               5781293    16  11978534    12  7189
>ef0   1500  192.168.1   192.168.1.1         5781293    16  11978534    12  7189
>
>Name  Mtu   Network     Address               Ipkts Ierrs     Opkts Oerrs  Coll
>eb0   1500  <link1>     00:60:08:a8:17:5d   4898485     1   2485013     0 52390
>eb0   1500  203.9.155.2 alice               4898485     1   2485013     0 52390
>eb0   1500  192.168.1   192.168.1.2         4898485     1   2485013     0 52390
>
>Name  Mtu   Network       Address            Ipkts Ierrs    Opkts Oerrs  Coll
>xl0   1500  <Link>      00.10.4b.18.1f.b9    25057     0    26207     0  4340
>xl0   1500  192.168.1     alpha              25057     0    26207     0  4340
>
>Name  Mtu   Network       Address            Ipkts Ierrs    Opkts Oerrs  Coll
>xl0   1500  <Link>      00.10.4b.18.1f.a8    15808     0     8428     0     2
>xl0   1500  192.168.1     bravo              15808     0     8428     0     2
>
>maxim is an old 486-33 running BSD/OS-3.1 with a 3C509, alice is
>a Pentium-166 running BSD/OS-3.1 with a 3C900, alpha and bravo
>are Celeron-300A's running FreeBSD-2.2.8-Release with 3C900B's.
>The errors on maxim were from the time when it booted and the
>rest of the LAN was out to lunch.  The others all booted more
>recently on to a live network.  The experiments I tried with the
>NFS copies were between alpha and alice and bumped alpha's
>collisions from virtually zero to the present figure.
>
>> > The more interesting statistics are the overall figures over time,
>> > and the ones you give at the start aren't too bad.  Yes, freebie is
>> > a bit high -- but 4% compared with 1% is not a big factor,
>> > especially with the fairly low total amount of traffic.  I'd watch
>> > it for a bit longer before deciding it was a real problem.  After
>> > all, if you're getting 1 MB/s on a 10 Mb/s LAN, you're doing pretty
>> > well :-)
>> 
>> Well, the values for freebie are now:
>> 
>> Name  Mtu   Network       Address            Ipkts Ierrs    Opkts Oerrs  Coll
>> ed2   1500  <Link>      00.80.48.e6.a0.61 16493376    34 21501269     0 2326175
>> ed2   1500  widecast      freebie         16493376    34 21501269     0 2326175
>> 
>> Since yesterday, that's 8 million more output packets and 1.3 million
>> collisions.  That suggests that something might be getting worse.
>
>Yes, it does look as though it's getting worse.  You may indeed
>have a fault somewhere.  I'd certainly check the cables first,
>and try swapping some of them around before pulling cards from
>machines.  (I have to pull video cards from five machines
>tomorrow to swap them for something that works with FreeBSD, so
>I'm a bit jaundiced about pulling cards at the moment :-) )
>
>Greg
>
>-- 
>Greg Black <gjb@acm.org>
>
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Hi, how do you extract files that are stuck together to form .TAR files?

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what if some non-root person crashes a process by filling up
/tmp directory? and when that proceses needs that directory
it will not be able to use it.

On Mon, 1 Feb 1999, Jasper O'Malley wrote:

> On Mon, 1 Feb 1999, Evren Yurtesen wrote:
> 
> > programs could have been using $HOME/temp
> > or something like that...
> > would not it be more appropriate?
> 
> What about non-root system processes? What about people who have already
> exceeded the quota on their home filesystem and need a place to
> temporarily move stuff while they clean it out?
> 
> Cheers,
> Mick
> 
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well I do not even use the drive!
it just shows up after I push the power button and
FreeBSD login prompt comes (sometimes not right away
but it comes even when I do not touch anything in 1 or
2 minutes max. and I do not have any processes running
else than standart processes which come with standart 
FreeBSD box)

On Mon, 1 Feb 1999, Karl Pielorz wrote:

> 
> 
> Evren Yurtesen wrote:
> > 
> > so if this is not an error message, why does it show up
> > just for the da1 drive? not for da0 ?
> 
> Are you accessing them both as much? The message only appears when the drive
> gets busy, as the system tends to queue more commands then...
> 
> > because I have the same model disk drives for da1 and da0
> > (even same capacity, and had been bought at the same time)
> > and why does it in bright white font color ?
> 
> It's in bright-white as it's sent to the system console, any console messages
> tend to show up in bright white...
> 
> > may I set how many tagged commands should be queued from kernel?
> 
> Not easily, you'd generally only want to do this for drives that have problems
> with their firmware and exhibit problems with command queues etc.
> 
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Hello,

I have installed at home 2 intel pc's with Freebsd 2.2.8 and 3.0.

Is it possible to create a RAID5 partition with any of the
utilities included in the cd-rom box?, or, is it possible
establish a mirrored system?.

I've tried to found any information about that but I didn't found
nothing. Can you help me, please.

Thank's in advance and best regards.
Vicente Biosca

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I get FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE from ftp.cdrom.com, but i have some troubles.
All doc files no readed at English. It's read at Ispanyole.
It is joke? ;-)
Pls say me, when i can get doc for FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE at English, if you
change it from 2.2.7R to 2.2.8R.
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On Sun, Jan 31, 1999 at 10:16:24PM +0100, Jill Rhoads wrote:
> Version: 3-stable
> 
> I know that this is a problem that many seem to have, but I just can't
> seem to solve it.
> 
> I had problems with my ports collection complaining about
> bsd.port.post.mk  and bsd.port.pre.mk.  So after reading through the
> earlier problems where someone had suggested that the upgrades patched
> might be good idea I used pkg_add and put in 3.0 to 3.0-stable upgrade
> kit.  But now my parts collection is completely shot and I get the
> following error:
> 
> >"/usr/share/mk/bsd.port.mk", line 2: Could not find
> >/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk
> >make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue
> 
> and indeedy when i look at bsd.port.mk it says that it wants to go to
> the Mk directory in ports.
> 
> My question is is obviously what to do?  
> 
> (Please any suggestions to getting certain files would be much more
> helpful to me if someone actually pointed out where they were. )

It look like you may need to update your ports tree.

I've noticed a link on the http://www.freebsd.org/ports/ that allows
to you to download the whole tree
(ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-current/ports.tar.gz),
although I haven't tried this route.

I usually use cvsup. If you need info on cvsup, see
http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/handbook273.html#cvsup.

If you do choose cvsup, you may want to make use of the example
ports-supfile under /usr/share/examples/cvsup. It's a good idea to
edit the file and have cvsup connect to cvsup2.freebsd.org or
cvsup3.freebsd.org instead of the default `cvsup.freebsd.org', as
cvsup.freebsd.org is often heavily loaded.


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If you're worried about it, you could always put /tmp on a file system
with quotas on it. But you have the same problem on the file system
that peoples home directories are on - some non-root person can fill
it, and cause everything else to fail. You solve those the same way -
with quotas.

Personally, having run systems for a couple of decades at large
institution both public and private, this isn't really much of a
problem The users id is all over the files causing the problems - you
delete the file, killing their processes if required, and send them a
sharply worded note about proper behavior.

	<mike

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> Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 16:02:29 +0200 (EET)
> From: Evren Yurtesen <yurtesen@turkey.ispro.net.tr>
> To: Jasper O'Malley <jooji@webnology.com>
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> Subject: Re: why does /tmp world writable?
> 
> what if some non-root person crashes a process by filling up
> /tmp directory? and when that proceses needs that directory
> it will not be able to use it.
> 
> On Mon, 1 Feb 1999, Jasper O'Malley wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, 1 Feb 1999, Evren Yurtesen wrote:
> > 
> > > programs could have been using $HOME/temp
> > > or something like that...
> > > would not it be more appropriate?
> > 
> > What about non-root system processes? What about people who have already
> > exceeded the quota on their home filesystem and need a place to
> > temporarily move stuff while they clean it out?
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Mick
> > 
> > The Reverend Jasper P. O'Malley          dotdot:jooji@webnology.com
> >     Systems Administrator                  ringring:asktheadmiral
> > 	Webnology, LLC               woowoo:http://www.webnology.com/~jooji
> > 
> > 
> 
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I have a stand alone and per the manuel I setup a DNS CACHEing rather then
doing my own DNS which it suggested would slow down the system.
Everything runs fine I can do a whois, ping a name etc.. and it does run a
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Michael Berhanu wrote:
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> Hi, how do you extract files that are stuck together to form .TAR files?
> 

man tar


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Doug wrote:
> 
> I want to thank people who responded to my question about "boot.flp"
> being too large to fit on a floppy when using fdimage to create an
> install floppy.
> 
> However, boot.flp is still too large.
> 
> I really do think I am downloading the file as binary. I am using
> Netscape Communicator 4.06, right-clicking on the boot.flp file and
> saving it as a file. However, it gets saved just a bit larger than the
> floppy size so fdimage won't work.
> 

FWIW, I'm sure Netscape screws up files whose type (extension) it
doesn't know about. The source for the NTFS driver is in .tgz format. If
I d/l it with Netscape in Windows then niether WinZip, gunzip can use
it, they both say it's corrupt. D/l it with Netscape for FreeBSD and 
gunzip and WinZip can unzip it. As a guess Netscape defaults to treating
files as ASCII unless it knows the format is binary (thus changing all
LF's to CR/LF).


> I have used the same method to download other binary files, such as
> QuickTime from the Apple Site (also an ftp:// link) and after downloading
> the executable runs just fine and QuickTime installs on the NT machine I
> am using.
> 
> I even tried changing the name of boot.flp to boot.exe (and then renaming
> it back to boot.flp after downloading) just in case the extension was
> somehow causing Netscape's FTP protocol to not download the file as
> binary.
> 
> My question is - are you *really sure* that the current boot.flp is not
> too large?
> 
> The file size appears to be 1,479,365 bytes. What should it be if I
> downloaded it correctly?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Doug Lerner, Tokyo
> doug@inJapan.net
> 
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Doug wrote:
> 
> I want to thank people who responded to my question about "boot.flp"
> being too large to fit on a floppy when using fdimage to create an
> install floppy.
> 
> However, boot.flp is still too large.
> 
> I really do think I am downloading the file as binary. I am using
> Netscape Communicator 4.06, right-clicking on the boot.flp file and
> saving it as a file. However, it gets saved just a bit larger than the
> floppy size so fdimage won't work.
> 

FWIW, I'm sure Netscape screws up files whose type (extension) it
doesn't know about. The source for the NTFS driver is in .tgz format. If
I d/l it with Netscape in Windows then niether WinZip, gunzip can use
it, they both say it's corrupt. D/l it with Netscape for FreeBSD and 
gunzip and WinZip can unzip it. As a guess Netscape defaults to treating
files as ASCII unless it knows the format is binary (thus changing all
LF's to CR/LF).


> I have used the same method to download other binary files, such as
> QuickTime from the Apple Site (also an ftp:// link) and after downloading
> the executable runs just fine and QuickTime installs on the NT machine I
> am using.
> 
> I even tried changing the name of boot.flp to boot.exe (and then renaming
> it back to boot.flp after downloading) just in case the extension was
> somehow causing Netscape's FTP protocol to not download the file as
> binary.
> 
> My question is - are you *really sure* that the current boot.flp is not
> too large?
> 
> The file size appears to be 1,479,365 bytes. What should it be if I
> downloaded it correctly?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Doug Lerner, Tokyo
> doug@inJapan.net
> 
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Hello!

I've patched libc.so to provide additional authorization via mySQL database, 
and I wanted all dynamic-linked executables to understand this at once. 
However, without explicit relinking with libmysqlclient, they complaint about 
undefined mysql_ functions.

I am _completely_ green to dynamic loading and even don't know what TFM to 
begin to R.

Maybe some kind soul will guide me?

Alex. 
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I'm trying to install tcp_wrappers on FreeBSD 2.2.2, but I keep getting
a make error.  I didn't originally install the ports collection on my
machine, so I got the tcp_wrapper port package from the 2.2.8-release
ports.  Trying to build tcp_wrappers on a 2.2.5 machine gives the same
error.  Can anyone tell me how to fix it?


The transcript of the make session:

[asgard/usr/ports/tcp_wrapper]# make
>> tcp_wrappers_7.6.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist on this system.
>> Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.win.tue.nl/pub/security/.
fetch: pub/security/tcp_wrappers_7.6.tar.gz: cannot get remote
modification time
fetch: ftp://ftp.win.tue.nl/pub/security/tcp_wrappers_7.6.tar.gz: FTP
error:
fetch: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access)
>> Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/distfiles//.
Receiving tcp_wrappers_7.6.tar.gz (99438 bytes): 100%
99438 bytes transfered in 3.2 seconds  (30.80 kB/s)
>> Checksum OK for tcp_wrappers_7.6.tar.gz.
===>  Extracting for tcp_wrappers-7.6
===>  Patching for tcp_wrappers-7.6
===>  Applying FreeBSD patches for tcp_wrappers-7.6
===>  Configuring for tcp_wrappers-7.6
===>  Building for tcp_wrappers-7.6
"Makefile", line 694: Malformed conditional (${PORTOBJFORMAT} == elf)
"Makefile", line 694: Need an operator
"Makefile", line 696: if-less else
"Makefile", line 696: Need an operator
"Makefile", line 698: if-less endif
"Makefile", line 698: Need an operator
"Makefile", line 740: Malformed conditional (${PORTOBJFORMAT} == elf)
"Makefile", line 740: Need an operator
"Makefile", line 742: if-less else
"Makefile", line 742: Need an operator
"Makefile", line 744: if-less endif
"Makefile", line 744: Need an operator
Fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue
*** Error code 1
 
Stop.
*** Error code 1
 
Stop.
*** Error code 1
 
Stop.
[asgard/usr/ports/tcp_wrapper]#

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On Tue, 2 Feb 1999, Michael Berhanu wrote:

There are probably a number of ways to do this.  I normally create a
file with "tar -tvf > exclude.file" and edit it to only include the
paths and files that I do NOT want to extract and use the
"-exclude-from" parameter.

(ie: tar -xv -exclude-from exclude.file -f tar.file)

> Hi, how do you extract files that are stuck together to form .TAR files?
> 
> Thank you
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In the grand scheme of things I am fairly new to freebsd so immediate
apologies if this seems like a rank newbie question, or is off-topic.

Everything I have read tells me that I need to keep a system logbook, a
reasonable thing to do so that system information is kept in one place other
than my head.

What I have been unable to find is what this log book should look like, how
it should be arranged, etc .. Of the 5 administrators that I personally know
(all involved with ISP's) none of them keep a logbook and none can shed any
light on what such a log should look like.

Archive search gave no clues regarding this either.

Is anyone up to providing a brief description of what a logbook should look
like or how it should be organized, possibly even scan a page and email it
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URL's with description, screenshots, also welcome

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Evren Yurtesen wrote:
> 
> well I do not even use the drive!
> it just shows up after I push the power button and
> FreeBSD login prompt comes (sometimes not right away
> but it comes even when I do not touch anything in 1 or
> 2 minutes max. and I do not have any processes running
> else than standart processes which come with standart
> FreeBSD box)

Maybe just the activity from the initial fsck/mount is enough to cause it?...
It shouldn't be any real cause for concern...

-Kp

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I am 8e Digiboard user.
> I found some problem with digiboard card.
> I run Digiboard with FREEBSD.
> On the Messages say ' port 2 overrun 
> 
> On the manual say 'dgbX: port Y: overrun  Input buffer has filled up.
Problems in polling logic of driver.'
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I'm preparing to test the upgrade process from 2.2.8->3.0, but I'm
curious about the filesystem.  I thought that there were some
differences in the filesystem handling/formats between the versions...?

If so, how is this converted?


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I am having a problem with changing the existing IP address to a 3.0
machine. 

I do not know all of the files I need to change regarding this. I have not
changed the hostname, just the IP. 
When the system boots up, it hangs for around a minute while bringing up the
sendmail daemon, but then continues to boot. The  proper hostname shows up
on the login banner, and it is correct in the hosts file. After I login, I
can ping the new IP, the loopback, but it does not recognize anything else
on the same network.  Are there any utilities, I can use on this box that
can tell me what's going on? I think it might be a route problem. But even
without a default route, the system should still see another machine on the
same network/subet, right?  

Chris Cyr

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-- [ From: FreeBSD Questions * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] --

Hello. Recently I tried to install Radius on my FreeBSD 2.2.1 machine. While
porting the application this message appeared:

===>  Applying FreeBSD patches for radius-basic-3.6B
/usr/libexec/ld.so: warning: /usr/lib/libc.so.3.0: minor version 0 older
than expected 1, using it anyway

I did apply the 221upgrade kit to my FreeBSD before this, so I thought all
files were upgraded.

How can I upgrade this files?

Pablo Quintana
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It looks like pkg_add can't find XFree86-3.3.3.1
(it was being added as dependancy for wxftp-0.4.1.tgz)
Am I missing something?

Thanks,
A.Heiphetz
============================================================================
================
ahg1# pkg_add
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-stable/All/wxftp-0.4.1
.tgz
Fetching
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-stable/All/wxftp-0.4.1
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i noticed the strangest thing

if i try to ping or traceroute to an ip that is on the servers interface
and correct in rc.conf
i get: host is down
if i arp -a   i get : at (incomplete)
however the interfaces are working fine because i can traceroute or ping to
them with no problem
and if i arp -a i will get the correct interface to come up
from any other machine other than the host machine

it is only the server itself that cant seem tosee its own interfaces
???

any clues as to what is wrong would be of masize help

later

pete




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On Mon, Feb 01, 1999 at 11:18:38AM -0500, Forrest Aldrich wrote:
> I'm preparing to test the upgrade process from 2.2.8->3.0, but I'm
> curious about the filesystem.  I thought that there were some
> differences in the filesystem handling/formats between the versions...?
> 

Asynchronous IO has been implemented, FFS softupdates were introduced,
but no format has been changed.  There is no risk here.

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Greetings,
 
Would anyone tell me where I can find 3.0-RELEASE Hankbook or 
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On Mon, 1 Feb 1999, Greg Lehey wrote:

> On Sunday, 31 January 1999 at 22:24:45 -0800, Brian W. Buchanan wrote:
> > I like to open lots of xterms, but I've found that once I have 16 ptys in
> > use, I can't spawn any more.  I've rebuilt my kernel with:
> >
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> 
> How do you know you're running into the 16 pty limit?  What's the
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Further testing has shown this to be a kvt bug.  There's still some
problem with man reporting 'cannot fork', but it's not easily
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On Mon, 1 Feb 1999, Mark Ovens wrote:

> Leo Kliger wrote:
> > 
> > i want to rebuild the kernel on two 2.1.5 machines but i don't have the
> > source...... does anybody out there know how i can get it.....
> 
> Hi Leo,
> 
> Are they not still available at ftp://ftp.freebsd.org?
> 
> If not, I've still got a 2.1.5 CD set (I'm 99.5% sure it's 2.1.5) but
> it's at work.

> Let me know.

If all else fails, I have 2.1.5 sitting on top of a bunch of the Nutshell
books, but my connection here is 28.8, so if you can't get it faster, let
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Just checked, and no, it isn't there, but don't know why!
Will reinstall it. 
Thanks again
Mike

On Mon, 1 Feb 1999, Greg Lehey wrote:

> On Saturday, 30 January 1999 at 20:03:11 -0900, Mike Endsley wrote:
> > On Sun, 31 Jan 1999, Greg Lehey wrote:
> >
> >> On Saturday, 30 January 1999 at 19:46:38 -0900, Mike Endsley wrote:
> >>> I am trying to install apsfilter, but get that @#^$#$#$% problem with
> >>> Imake.tmpl. The problem is that I have Imake.tmpl on my system!
> >>> Right now, it is in /usr/compat/linux/var/X11R6/lib/config/Imake.tmpl.
> >>> Should I copy it elsewhere? I don't know why it is there.
> >>
> >> If that's the only place you have it, it looks as if you haven't
> >> installed the X11 development software.  You'll need to do that.
> >> Don't use the Linux Imake.tmpl, it's not appropriate.
> >
> > Do you know which tgz file that is? I used Xprog.tgz from my 3.0-R cd.
> 
> That should be the one:
> 
> $ tar tzvf Xprog.tgz | grep Imake
> -r--r--r-- root/wheel    84341 Nov 14 12:15 1998 lib/X11/config/Imake.rules
> -r--r--r-- root/wheel    34113 Nov 14 12:15 1998 lib/X11/config/Imake.tmpl
> -r--r--r-- root/wheel    14648 Nov 14 12:15 1998 lib/X11/config/Imake.cf
> 
> This should end up under /usr/X11R6.  Do you have it there?  Otherwise
> you should reinstall the archive.
> 
> Greg
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I have adaptec SCSI on my motherboard and an external SCSI Zip drive
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Has everyone tried or heard about using Acer (or Vuego - it's the same)
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to compress * into filename.tar:

tar -cvf * filename.tar

to extract * out of filename.tar

tar -xvf filename.tar

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> Hi, how do you extract files that are stuck together to form .TAR files?
> 
> Thank you
>                 Michael
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I am not sure if you are the correct contact point but I hope you can at
least direct this to the correct place.

I am trying to configure a Sound Blaster 32 (non AWE) in FreeBSD 2.2.8
and am having no success.  I have copied the config examples from the
/usr/src/sys/i386/conf and I have read the FAQs and the LUIGI's sound
pages and many other pages.  if I could get the step by step retard
edition of how to install and configure this card I would appreciate it.
This will also be posted to other people I know that are equally
frustrated with this so that you will get a few less requests.  Thank
You for your time it is appreciated.
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Please don't BCC mailing lists. Thanks.

On Sat, 30 Jan 1999, Jeffrey Vehrs wrote:

> I'm giving you a little background of how it was set up. I have a laptop and 
> FreeBSD box with laplink cable attached to both. FreeBSD box is the host. It 
> has the CDROM drive. The goal is to install FreeBSD from the FBSD box w/ 
> CDROM drive onto the laptop via PLIP. This is how it works:
> 
>                   iceman <-------> cooljoe
> IP address        10.0.0.3         10.0.0.4
> 
> iceman  ==> FBSD box w/ CDROM drive(host)
> cooljoe ==> laptop
> 
> I was able to ping each other on both boxes. Also, I can FTPs to each 
> other on both boxes. Now, the problem is that I could NOT install FreeBSD 
> from iceman thru /stand/sysinstall.
> 
> I've already add 'ftp:*:99:99::0:0:FTP:/cdrom:/sbin/nologin' via vipw. The 
> 'err' msg said, "Warning: Can't CD to '2.2.6-RELEASE' distribution on this 
> FTP server". I can FTP manually to /cdrom without a problem. Did I miss 
> something here?

Unless you instruct otherwise, the installer expects the FreeBSD release
to live under /pub/FreeBSD/<version-id>. I suggest making a symlink.

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On most of the Unix systems I have used there is a make generator for
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Dan Busarow writes:
> On Fri, 29 Jan 1999, John Lind wrote:
> > We have two subnets routed to a Cisco 675 (aDSL).  The 657 is
> > 137.192.130.30.  The FreeBSD box is 137.192.130.29 on that net,
> > and the other NIC is 137.192.130.22 on the internal or "protected"
> > net.  The netmask on both nets is 255.255.255.248.
> > 
> > The system we are most trying to protect on the internal net is a
> > UnixWare system (good grief, I hope that they aren't doing something
> > weird with TCP that's causing all this!), which is at IP 137.192.130.20.
> > When I use the "open" ruleset, I have full access to that system
> > (and so does every one else).  Just for reference, that's
> > 
> > 00100 allow ip from any to any via lo0
> > 00200 deny ip from any to 127.0.0.0/8
> > 65000 allow ip from any to any
> > 65535 deny ip from any to any 
> > 
> > Since I have full access from anywhere on the Internet to the internal
> > systems with this ruleset, I know that IP forwarding is working.
> > 
> > When I try to do any filtering at all, I loose all access to the UnixWare
> > system.  The ultimate goal is to have Web access to that system, but
> > to restrict access for everything else to a few selected IP's.  The
> > following ruleset isn't nearly that complicated -- I've stripped it
> > 'way down -- my understanding is that this SHOULD allow Web access
> > to this system, and nothing else, but instead, I get nothing at all.
> > I have a test script that installs this, and then if I don't break out
> > of it, it installs the "open" set again, and as soon as "open" gets
> > reinstalled, the web accesses that were hanging all proceed.
> > 
> > 00100 allow ip from any to any via lo0
> > 00200 deny ip from any to 127.0.0.0/8
> > 01000 allow tcp from any to any established
> > 01200 allow tcp from any to 137.192.130.20 80 setup
> > 01300 allow tcp from 137.192.130.16/29 to any setup
> 
> Try changing the /29 to /28
> You aren't letting setup out via 137.192.130.29 and so he can't forward
> the packets.

OK -- I have to retract part of what I said, but the overall sense of
things is the same.  The reason I couldn't get into the system was
not changing the subnet mask to /28 PER SE, but rather that I fat-fingered
and got a syntax error in rc.firewall in the process.

The essential facts remain the same, however, which is that neither
changing the subnet mask to /28 nor putting in a specific rule to
pass all setup from 137.192.130.29 made any difference at all.

Help???

> > 01410 allow tcp from any to any 25 setup
> > 01420 allow tcp from any to any 53 setup
> > 01421 allow udp from any to any 53
> > 01430 allow icmp from any to any
> > 
> > I've tried replacing 01200 with "to 137.192.130.20 80" (no "setup"),
> > and with simply "to 137.192.130.20" (no port, just for testing) and it
> > works the same.  I also tried port 23 and tested with telnet, with the
> > same results -- it just hangs until the script times out and restores
> > open access.
> > 
> > When I do a netstat -n, I always see the connection state as "ESTABLISHED"
> > which tells me, it should be working!!!

		 John Lind, Starfire Consulting Services
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Hello,

I am attempting to install FreeBSD 2.2.7 from a CD. During the install
process my ATAPI CD is not identified. I have a Master and a Slave HDD's
connected to the primary IDE controller (both drives are correctly
identified). The CD-ROM is the Master connected to the secondary controller.
How can I solve this problem?

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Upgrade to the latest version of ppp from 

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and the problem should go away.

> Hi all,
> 
> I'm using FreeBSD 2.2.8. I'm trying to set up usermode ppp.
> I managed to do that using the command 'ppp -auto mylabel', when I try
> to do the same by issuing the command 'ppp -ddial mylabel' it most of
> the times gives the following error:
> 
> Working in ddial mode
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> Warning: Add! route failed: 0.0.0.0: errno: Disk quota exceeded
> 
> After a couple of tries does work, any idea why this is hapening?
> I have quotas enabled in the kernel but not assigned.
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> 
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Alex Heiphetz wrote:
> 
> It looks like pkg_add can't find XFree86-3.3.3.1
> (it was being added as dependancy for wxftp-0.4.1.tgz)
> Am I missing something?
> 

No, this is a mistake in the package. Xfree86 is not a package so you
can't check for it (the check works by looking for an dirextory
in/var/db/pkg, in this case called XFree86-3.3.3.1). The easy workround
is, as root, to ``mkdir XFree86-3.3.3.1'' in /var/db/pkg.

HTH


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> A.Heiphetz
> ============================================================================
> ================
> ahg1# pkg_add
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> .tgz
> Fetching
> ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-stable/All/wxftp-0.4.1
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> .3.1.tgz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access)
> Fetching
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Hello, my name is Bart Schijvens.
I live in Belgium and I have a few questions about Unix FreeBSD.
My intention is to replace Microsoft Windows (or not to use it too =
frequently) in time.

1) I have just bought a new computer:
     * Pentium II 350 Mhz
     * 64 Mb SDRAM (100 MHz)
     * Quantum Fireball 10.2 Gb harddisk
     * Quantum Fireball  3.2 Gb harddisk
     * Creative Sound Blaster AWE 32
     * Atrend motherboard (100 Mhz)
     * Logitech Pilot Mouse
     * Diamond Viper 550 16 Mb
     * CDROM A-Open 32x
     * HP cd-rewriter 7100+
     My questions: - Does FreeBSD support this hardware?
                             Redhat Linux 5.0 doesn't support my =
graphics card under X (Everything is black/white),
                             cannot not mount my cdroms, my keyboard =
doesn't work completely, ...
                             (It was really frutstrating when I noticed =
it, I also know that this is an old version of Linux)
                             Another problem: When you are installing =
Linux, you have to choose which components you want to install.
                                                       I had selected =
everything.  But when I ran Linux, not all the applications worked =
(under X).
                                                       example: Control =
Panel (I think that's very important, isn't it?) doesn't run.
                                                       Before this =
graphics card, I had a Leadtek S3 Virge 2 Mb.  With this card, ALMOST =
every application
                                                       ran. (???).  =
Howcome not all the application run???
                             Maybe FreeBSD supports it? I want to know =
before bying it. (I don't want to make the same mistake as with Linux, =
not that I don't
                             like Linux, but I think Unix itself is =
better)
                             I didn't find any of this on your site =
(Maybe it is just me!!!).
                             Does it support 3D cards?
                          - Is there software for my cdwriter?
                          - Is there software available to make my own =
music --> MIDI-software like Cakewalk or Cubase?
                          - What about Microsoft Windows 3.11 / 95 - =
emulators?

2) What is the difference between Linux and Unix?.
    Which system is the best for home users?=20
    I study Informatics (analyst/programmer: C/C++, COBOL, SQL, AS/400 =
=3D RPG, JAVA,...).
    Which system doesn't crach much, because I like to experiment.
    I know Windows98 cannot deal with it.

3) Is there a nice looking (nice interface) - C/C++ compiler ("Microsoft =
Visual C++ 5.0 look-a-like")?
                                                             - Cobol =
compiler ("Visual Realia look-a-like")?
                                                             - =
SQL-server (Oracle or maybe Personal Oracle for Unix?)?
                                                             - AS/400 =
simulator/emulator?

4) Is the X-window system as nice and as userfriendly as Windows 98 or =
NT?
    I want to use a Graphical User Interface as much as possible.
    I think I cannot go back to a DOS-like environment.(This is stupid, =
I know).

5) On cdrom.com you can buy FreeBSD 2.2.8 or FreeBSD 3.0 (?)
    What's the difference, I thougt 2.2.8 was the latest version?

achtungB@dma.be

Sincerely yours,

                   Bart Schijvens.


PS1 : My apologies for my english, I know it isn't very well.
PS2 : I hope you will find time to correctly answer these quesions.

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On Fri, 29 Jan 1999, robert wrote:

> hello,
> I am wondering how I can make my machine re read the
> /etc/hosts,hosts.equiv,hosts.lpd, and /etc/ttys files without restarting
> the whole thing.
> I have tried kill -1 1(killing init) but that isn't it??
> any clues would be greatly appreciated.

/etc/hosts and hosts.equiv are reread automatically.

/etc/ttys require a kill -HUP 1

dunno about hosts.lpd (although I suspect lpd rereads that
automatically as well).

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"K. Marsh" wrote:
> 
> I have adaptec SCSI on my motherboard and an external SCSI Zip drive
> gathering dust.  Is there a way I can hook up both external AND internal
> devices to the same internal SCSI adapter?
> 

Well, I don't have a definitive answer but I'm in the process of trying
exactly the same thing myself.

I have a SCSI card with wide and narrow internal headers and a narrow
external port. However I'm using both internal ones (wide for the HD and
narrow for the CD) so I can't use the external one. I want to be able to
use an external DAT drive that I can borrow from work so I've managed to
get the bits to make up the following convertor. An 50-pin loop with 50
pin micro-D's out of an old external case, cut it in half and added a 50
pin _male_ connector (that took some finding).

I plan to plug the last connector on the internal ribbon into this with
the CD using the next to the last, mount the micro-D on the back of the
case, un-terminate the CD and use an external terminator.

In theory this should work. I'm hoping to try it out sometime this this
week. I'll let you know how I get on. Meantime maybe this gives you
something to try.


>   Kenneth J. Marsh             University of Washington
>   durang@u.washington.edu        Chemical Engineering
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On Mon, 1 Feb 1999, Kent Stewart wrote:

> Adaptec has cables to hook up their AHA-2940U2W to legacy 50 pin
> internal/external devices. It has a socket connector one end and a plate to
> go in a slot on the other end. I think I have seen these other places but it
> would be easy to manufacturer.

Yeah, I bought one of these.  Only thing is, then I can't connect any of
my internal devices - CD and hard disk.  I need to use BOTH internal AND
external devices with my adapter.  Possible?

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Joe Lira wrote,
> to compress * into filename.tar:
> 
> tar -cvf * filename.tar

Two things,

1) The archive name/device should be the first argument, i.e.

% tar cvf filename.tar *

2) tar does not do compression. If you want to do compression try,

% tar cvf filename.tar *
% gzip filename.tar

Or, to be more guruish,

% tar cvf - * | gzip -c > filename.tar.gz

To do the same thing on one line. HTH.
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Thanks to everybody that helped!!


(One fried motherboard later...) It finally worked!!


FWIW, I still don't understand the reason behind specifying a pcm0 in the kernel, just to have it 'not found', and working off pcm1 (snd1) :))))))))


Oh, well...



Kiril



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On Mon, 1 Feb 1999, Crist J. Clark wrote:

> Joe Lira wrote,
> > to compress * into filename.tar:
> > 
> > tar -cvf * filename.tar
> 
> Two things,
> 
> 1) The archive name/device should be the first argument, i.e.
> 
> % tar cvf filename.tar *
> 
> 2) tar does not do compression. If you want to do compression try,
> 
> % tar cvf filename.tar *
> % gzip filename.tar

or just tar czvf filename.tar.gz *

under FreeBSD, since it has that option (Is FreeBSD using gnu tar, out of 
curiosity?)


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Hi,

I have FreeBSD 3.0-19990201-STABLE #0: Mon Feb  1 10:52:02 GMT 1999

and when I tried

bash-2.02# cd netscape45-navigator/
bash-2.02# make install
===>  Installing for netscape-navigator-4.5
cd
/usr/ports/www/netscape45-navigator/work/navigator-v45.x86-unknown-freebsd
&& yes "" |  LC_TIME=C MOZILLA_HOME="/usr/local/lib/netscape" ./ns-install
./ns-install: not found
*** Error code 127

Stop.
*** Error code 1

Stop.
*** Error code 1

Stop.


Also:

bash-2.02# pwd
/usr/local/netscape-4.5
bash-2.02# ./netscape 
Couldn't open /usr/libexec/ld.so.


What is going on ?????

bye.



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Hi,

For what it is worth, I've been using both internal & external SCSI devices
since FreeBSD 2.0.  Now my equipment is rather old (Adaptec ISA 1540
controller if I remember correctly) but I run OS/2, Linux and FreeBSD on an
old 386/33 with an external 2X CDROM (it cost over $400 back then) and an
internal SCSI disk.

I remember being able to run without the external SCSI cable even plugged in
(nor a terminator.)  If I needed the device, I needed to reboot (I forget if
I just did a rest or a power cycle.)  I was able to loan out the CDROM drive
for others to install OS2 from yet still run.  I don't remember if I ever
did this with FreeBSD however.  Originally, I had a FD-1680 SCSI controller.
When I threw out Linux for FreeBSD, I traded it for the Adaptec.  I don't
remember if I needed to loan the CDROM drive at that point.

I hope this helps,
MikeC

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-----Original Message-----
From:	K. Marsh [SMTP:durang@u.washington.edu]
Sent:	Monday, February 01, 1999 3:29 PM
To:	Kent Stewart
Cc:	q's
Subject:	Re: External SCSI device with internal SCSI adapter?

On Mon, 1 Feb 1999, Kent Stewart wrote:

> Adaptec has cables to hook up their AHA-2940U2W to legacy 50 pin
> internal/external devices. It has a socket connector one end and a plate
to
> go in a slot on the other end. I think I have seen these other places but
it
> would be easy to manufacturer.

Yeah, I bought one of these.  Only thing is, then I can't connect any of
my internal devices - CD and hard disk.  I need to use BOTH internal AND
external devices with my adapter.  Possible?

  Kenneth J. Marsh             University of Washington 
  durang@u.washington.edu        Chemical Engineering


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On Mon, 1 Feb 1999, Brian W. Buchanan wrote:

> On Mon, 1 Feb 1999, Greg Lehey wrote:
> 
> > On Sunday, 31 January 1999 at 22:24:45 -0800, Brian W. Buchanan wrote:
> > > I like to open lots of xterms, but I've found that once I have 16 ptys in
> > > use, I can't spawn any more.  I've rebuilt my kernel with:
> > >
> > > pseudo-device	pty 32
> > >
> > > And I know I have enough pty device entries in /dev, but I still run into
> > > the 16-pty limit.
> > 
> > How do you know you're running into the 16 pty limit?  What's the
> > message?  What are the names of your second group of 16 ptys?
> 
> Further testing has shown this to be a kvt bug.  There's still some
> problem with man reporting 'cannot fork', but it's not easily
> reproduceable.

Before upping my number of process limit in /etc/lgin.conf I would see
"cannot fork" messages. What user class are you in, and what are the
settings in /etc/login.conf? 

> 
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The Adaptec cable is designed to hook up all of your legacy devices, i.e.,
internal and external. I haven't seen the cable to see what device will be
the end of the chain with the terminator on it. Having the external chain
being at the end would be the easiest.

Kent

"K. Marsh" wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 1 Feb 1999, Kent Stewart wrote:
> 
> > Adaptec has cables to hook up their AHA-2940U2W to legacy 50 pin
> > internal/external devices. It has a socket connector one end and a plate to
> > go in a slot on the other end. I think I have seen these other places but it
> > would be easy to manufacturer.
> 
> Yeah, I bought one of these.  Only thing is, then I can't connect any of
> my internal devices - CD and hard disk.  I need to use BOTH internal AND
> external devices with my adapter.  Possible?
> 
>   Kenneth J. Marsh             University of Washington
>   durang@u.washington.edu        Chemical Engineering
> 
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This applies to either FreeBSD-3.0 or 2.2.8.

I've noticed that when the system boots, named starts... but
it gets 'stuck' (for lack of an explanation), this is resolved by
sending a HUP signal to it.  Then it's fine.

I've seen this behavior in named since 2.2.5 and I can't tell if
this is named itself or something else.   Has anyone else noticed
this problem?


Forrest



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On Mon, 1 Feb 1999, Forrest Aldrich wrote:
> This applies to either FreeBSD-3.0 or 2.2.8.
> 
> I've noticed that when the system boots, named starts... but
> it gets 'stuck' (for lack of an explanation), this is resolved by
> sending a HUP signal to it.  Then it's fine.

In /etc/host.conf use
hosts
bind

and make sure the local machine (not just localhost) is in /etc/hosts

Dan
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According to Eric J. Schwertfeger:
> On Mon, 1 Feb 1999, Crist J. Clark wrote:
> 
> > Joe Lira wrote,
> > > to compress * into filename.tar:
> > > 
> > > tar -cvf * filename.tar
> > 
> > Two things,
> > 
> > 1) The archive name/device should be the first argument, i.e.
> > 
> > % tar cvf filename.tar *
> > 
> > 2) tar does not do compression. If you want to do compression try,
> > 
> > % tar cvf filename.tar *
> > % gzip filename.tar
> 
> or just tar czvf filename.tar.gz *
> 
> under FreeBSD, since it has that option (Is FreeBSD using gnu tar, out of 
> curiosity?)
> 


	FreeBSD does use tar|gtar (aka GNU tar) which has builtin
	[un]compression.

	Anybody know if there is a script that can automatically
	uuencode|uudecode tar'd and gzip'd files?  A -U flag to
	gtar could automatically turn `[g]tar czUvf tarball.tgz *'
	into `tarbal.uu', and `tar xzUvf tarball.uu' into 
	`tarball.tar'.

	So much code to hack, so little time....

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David Knight wrote:
> 
>  Hi I'm trying to create the installation disk for FreeBSD 2.2.8 using
> the correct boot.flp from the mirror site and the program fdimage.exe.
> But fdimage keeps saying that the file boot.flp is to big ! I have tried
> using RAWRITE but it crashes on track 80. I am using a Dell GXa using
> Windows NT on Netware 4. Could you please tell me what is wrong
> 
Try using ftp.  I.e. Start > Run > ftp ftp.freebsd.org [Enter]

[login] [change path] [change local path] [etc...]

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Forrest Aldrich wrote:
> 
> I'm preparing to test the upgrade process from 2.2.8->3.0, but I'm
> curious about the filesystem.  I thought that there were some
> differences in the filesystem handling/formats between the versions...?
> 
> If so, how is this converted?

I think they are the same.  I did a binary upgrade from 2.2.2 to 3.0
and had no problems.

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Has anyone had any luck configuring the ESS ES1869 Audio Drive sound card?
I haven't been lucky to date in getting even a beep.  It's the last bit on
my laptop (CTX 700EZ) that I cannot get functioning.  

Any pointers to info, or info itself (i.e. which bits to compile into the
kernel, how to De-pnp the thing) would be very much appreciated.

-Ryan

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well i will keep my mouth shut from now on until i know what i'm doing :)

by the way, a friend of mine and I got a sweet little telnet chat program
running. feel free to stop by ( telnet joe.to port 7227 )

it interfaces the the web in numerous ways:
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On Mon, 1 Feb 1999, Crist J. Clark wrote:

> Joe Lira wrote,
> > to compress * into filename.tar:
> > 
> > tar -cvf * filename.tar
> 
> Two things,
> 
> 1) The archive name/device should be the first argument, i.e.
> 
> % tar cvf filename.tar *
> 
> 2) tar does not do compression. If you want to do compression try,
> 
> % tar cvf filename.tar *
> % gzip filename.tar
> 
> Or, to be more guruish,
> 
> % tar cvf - * | gzip -c > filename.tar.gz
> 
> To do the same thing on one line. HTH.
> -- 
> Crist J. Clark                           cjclark@home.com
> 


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Another option - install the mtools package (MS dos disk tools) then you
can: mcopy mdir mdel mformat ...

Kevin_Weiss/AUS/Lotus@lotus.com wrote:

> If I have a bitmap in MS-DOS format, how do I copy
> it to a freeBSD HDD?
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Thanks guys..... somebody pointed the src out at ftp.dsu.edu downloading as
I type......
Leo

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> From: Eric J. Schwertfeger <ejs@bfd.com>
> To: Mark Ovens <marko@uk.radan.com>
> Cc: Leo Kliger <leo@astea.com.au>; freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.1.5
> Date: Tuesday, 02 February 1999 04:22 AM
> 
> On Mon, 1 Feb 1999, Mark Ovens wrote:
> 
> > Leo Kliger wrote:
> > > 
> > > i want to rebuild the kernel on two 2.1.5 machines but i don't have
the
> > > source...... does anybody out there know how i can get it.....
> > 
> > Hi Leo,
> > 
> > Are they not still available at ftp://ftp.freebsd.org?
> > 
> > If not, I've still got a 2.1.5 CD set (I'm 99.5% sure it's 2.1.5) but
> > it's at work.
> 
> > Let me know.
> 
> If all else fails, I have 2.1.5 sitting on top of a bunch of the Nutshell
> books, but my connection here is 28.8, so if you can't get it faster, let
> me know.
> 

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We use timezone SNT in Sweden but FreeBSD installation offers only CET.
I usually agree to this and then set correct TZ in /etc/rc and /etc/profile.

Now I need to set SNT for the entire environment, I would like to create
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On Mon, 1 Feb 1999, Evren Yurtesen wrote:

> what if some non-root person crashes a process by filling up
> /tmp directory? and when that proceses needs that directory
> it will not be able to use it.

Hopefully, you've got your machine paging you if/when your filesystems are
filled up. If you like, as I suggested before, you can put /tmp on its own
filesystem and apply (large) user quotas to it. That way, it takes a
concerted effort to fill up /tmp, not one rogue user. But you really,
really should keep the permissions on /tmp mode 1777.

Cheers,
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Hi.

I'm using 4.0-CURRENT, with a SCSI CD ROM writer. I need to write
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I understand that I could just dd the original disk, but then how
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cdrecord-1.6.1 doesn't support DAO mode, only TAO mode.

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r412:/usr/local/netscape > ./netscape 
Couldn't open /usr/libexec/ld.so.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^There is not that on my system

system ==  FreeBSD 3.0-19990201-STABLE.


Is that right ? ld.so MUST exist on my system or NOT.





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I am trying to find out what is needed to become an official mirror for
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We would like to become a mirror that can be accessed by the internet
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Bill Hamilton wrote:

> Thanks for the heads-up.
> What if my only network is an ISDN dialup to my ISP and I have
> a static IP address. Any worry?
>

Only if you're not _actively_ preventing, by using a firewall/filter,
people coming down the ISDN link to your box...

>
> "Norman C. Rice" wrote:
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> >   ^^^^^^^
> > Please be aware of the security issues involved with turning access
> > control off, which grants *everyone* access to your X server.
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On Monday,  1 February 1999 at 15:04:00 +0100, VICENTE BIOSCA NAVAS wrote:
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> I have installed at home 2 intel pc's with Freebsd 2.2.8 and 3.0.
>
> Is it possible to create a RAID5 partition with any of the
> utilities included in the cd-rom box?,

You mean on the CD-ROMs?  No.

> or, is it possible establish a mirrored system?.

Yes.

> I've tried to found any information about that but I didn't found
> nothing. Can you help me, please.

There are two mirroring products available for FreeBSD: ccd and
vinum.  Vinum is newer and offers more functionality (including
RAID-5, but this version is not currently being distributed).  Check
ccd(4), ccdconfig(8), cinum(4) and vinum(8).  Vinum is only on 3.0.
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Jason Seidel <jseidel@kodiak.sdsmt.edu> wrote:
> I am trying to find out what is needed to become an official mirror for
> freebsd.
> We would like to become a mirror that can be accessed by the internet
> and I2.  If you could send me any specific information on what we need
> to do on our side, please e-mail me. I would greatly appreciate it.
> We here at SDSM&T are huge fans of FreeBSD.


The cvsup-mirror-1.0 port will help you get everything setup to be a mirror
site.  According to the handbook you may want to contact the freebsd-hubs
mailing list or the admin@FreeBSD.org mailing list.
(according to http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/handbook286.html)

Good Luck and Thanks!

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On Monday,  1 February 1999 at  9:00:20 -0800, Brian W. Buchanan wrote:
> On Mon, 1 Feb 1999, Greg Lehey wrote:
>
>> On Sunday, 31 January 1999 at 22:24:45 -0800, Brian W. Buchanan wrote:
>>> I like to open lots of xterms, but I've found that once I have 16 ptys in
>>> use, I can't spawn any more.  I've rebuilt my kernel with:
>>>
>>> pseudo-device	pty 32
>>>
>>> And I know I have enough pty device entries in /dev, but I still run into
>>> the 16-pty limit.
>>
>> How do you know you're running into the 16 pty limit?  What's the
>> message?  What are the names of your second group of 16 ptys?
>
> Further testing has shown this to be a kvt bug.  There's still some
> problem with man reporting 'cannot fork', but it's not easily
> reproduceable.

No, the ``cannot fork'' is the real bug.  You've got your process
limit set too low.  Check out login.conf(5).

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On Monday,  1 February 1999 at 16:24:54 +0200, Alexey V.Vinogradov wrote:
> I get FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE from ftp.cdrom.com, but i have some troubles.
> All doc files no readed at English. It's read at Ispanyole.

That's ``Spanish'' in English :-)

> It is joke? ;-)

No.

> Pls say me, when i can get doc for FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE at English, if you
> change it from 2.2.7R to 2.2.8R.

You've obviously looked in the wrong place.  The base FreeBSD
documentation is in English.

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On Monday,  1 February 1999 at 12:28:45 -0800, K. Marsh wrote:
> On Mon, 1 Feb 1999, Kent Stewart wrote:
>
>> Adaptec has cables to hook up their AHA-2940U2W to legacy 50 pin
>> internal/external devices. It has a socket connector one end and a plate to
>> go in a slot on the other end. I think I have seen these other places but it
>> would be easy to manufacturer.
>
> Yeah, I bought one of these.  Only thing is, then I can't connect any of
> my internal devices - CD and hard disk.  I need to use BOTH internal AND
> external devices with my adapter.  Possible?

That depends on your host adaptor, about which you've been very quiet.
All host adaptors that I know allow this configuration, but you may
have to juggle terminators on older devices or change BIOS settings on
newer ones.

Greg
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On Monday,  1 February 1999 at 11:24:50 -0800, Kent Stewart wrote:
> On most of the Unix systems I have used there is a make generator for
> Fortran. I don't see such a product on FreeBSD for f77. I have a large
> program, i.e., more than 300 modules, that was last used on a Cray. The
> sources as provided do not contain a makefile. I would like to try and build
> it on FreeBSD but would hate to have to create the makefile by hand <grin>.
> Is there something like mkmf that will generate a makefile.

Not that I know of.  Have you tried gmake?  It knows about Fortran
programs.  You probably need very little to make a usable Makefile.
For example, if you create a single executable out of your 300 .f
programs, you might do:

  $ ls *.f | xargs | sed 's/^/PROG:	/' > Makefile

Substitute the name of your program for PROG.

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Just tried this out and it seems to have a chroot in it somewhere.
When I exited from the chat session I ran whoami and I was root on my own machine.

Jeff





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Kiril Mitev wrote:
> 
> 
> FWIW, I still don't understand the reason behind specifying a pcm0 in the kernel, just to have it 'not found', and working off pcm1 (snd1) :))))))))
> 

You could get rid of that annoying "pcm0 not found" message simply
disabling the pcm device in your kernel config file, or using the
"boot -c" configuration. While the pcm driver is in the kernel
(even if it is disabled), the PNP code attachs the soundcard to it.

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Is it possible for a telnet session to log you in as root on your host
machine??  I'd be very surprised.

I've been using on and working with this chat program ffor years, and i've
never had that happen to me or heard about it happening to anyone else.

joe

On Mon, 1 Feb 1999, Jeff Gray wrote:

> Just tried this out and it seems to have a chroot in it somewhere.
> When I exited from the chat session I ran whoami and I was root on my own machine.
> 
> Jeff
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Feb 01, 1999 at 05:31:50PM -0500, Spike wrote:
> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> > 
> > 
> > On Mon, 1 Feb 1999, Joe Lira wrote:
> > 
> > > well i will keep my mouth shut from now on until i know what i'm doing :)
> > > 
> > > by the way, a friend of mine and I got a sweet little telnet chat program
> > > running. feel free to stop by ( telnet joe.to port 7227 )
> > 
> > Hey, I stopped by joe.to and it is really neat. It looks like a good place
> > to get quick answers to questions. 
> > 
> > > 
> > > it interfaces the the web in numerous ways:
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> > > 
> > > joe
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > 	-Spike Gronim
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There seems to be a tcp connection stuck in the CLOSING state here, which
seems odd. It doesn't seem to be causing any problems, but I imagine if
they start accumulating it could cause a problem. So, my questions are,

1. What could have caused a connection to get stuck like that?
2. How should I get rid of it? (if possible, without rebooting.)

Also, connections do seem to stick in this state fairly often, but timeout
after a while (this problematic one has been there for hours). Is there
any way to change the timeout on the CLOSING state? It's probably
somewhere in the source, but I don't know much about C, less about kernel
internals, and couldn't spot anything obvious looking under /sys/netinet.

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On my 2940UW I have one wide and one narrow connector internally and one
wide connector externally.  Since I have both wide and narrow devices
connected internally, I was unable to use the external connector.  My
solution was to get a plate connector which connected to the internal
narrow bus and provided an external connection.

cheers,
carey nairn

At 09:42 2/02/99 +1030, Greg Lehey wrote:
>On Monday,  1 February 1999 at 12:28:45 -0800, K. Marsh wrote:
>> On Mon, 1 Feb 1999, Kent Stewart wrote:
>>
>>> Adaptec has cables to hook up their AHA-2940U2W to legacy 50 pin
>>> internal/external devices. It has a socket connector one end and a plate to
>>> go in a slot on the other end. I think I have seen these other places
but it
>>> would be easy to manufacturer.
>>
>> Yeah, I bought one of these.  Only thing is, then I can't connect any of
>> my internal devices - CD and hard disk.  I need to use BOTH internal AND
>> external devices with my adapter.  Possible?
>
>That depends on your host adaptor, about which you've been very quiet.
>All host adaptors that I know allow this configuration, but you may
>have to juggle terminators on older devices or change BIOS settings on
>newer ones.
>
>Greg
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"Alexey V.Vinogradov" wrote:
> 
> I get FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE from ftp.cdrom.com, but i have some troubles.
> All doc files no readed at English. It's read at Ispanyole.
> It is joke? ;-)
> Pls say me, when i can get doc for FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE at English, if you
> change it from 2.2.7R to 2.2.8R.

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> to compress * into filename.tar:
> 
> tar -cvf * filename.tar

Wrong on two counts.  This does not compress anything (although
the -z option to many versions of tar will do compression); and
the syntax is wrong.

As shown, it will attempt to overwrite the first file in the
expansion of `*'; and it will attempt (and probably fail) to put
`filename.tar' into the archive.

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Hmmm... must be my error as I cannot duplicate it.  Maybe I was root on this machine when I tried   
it but this xterm is not set up as root and history does not it. 

 % history 130|grep root
 126  history 130 | grep root

sorry for the comment, nice program, thanks for the tip.

Jeff



On Mon, Feb 01, 1999 at 03:39:01PM -0800, Joe Lira wrote:
> Is it possible for a telnet session to log you in as root on your host
> machine??  I'd be very surprised.
> 
> I've been using on and working with this chat program ffor years, and i've
> never had that happen to me or heard about it happening to anyone else.
> 
> joe
> 
> On Mon, 1 Feb 1999, Jeff Gray wrote:
> 
> > Just tried this out and it seems to have a chroot in it somewhere.
> > When I exited from the chat session I ran whoami and I was root on my own machine.
> > 
> > Jeff
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Mon, Feb 01, 1999 at 05:31:50PM -0500, Spike wrote:
> > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Mon, 1 Feb 1999, Joe Lira wrote:
> > > 
> > > > well i will keep my mouth shut from now on until i know what i'm doing :)
> > > > 
> > > > by the way, a friend of mine and I got a sweet little telnet chat program
> > > > running. feel free to stop by ( telnet joe.to port 7227 )
> > > 
> > > Hey, I stopped by joe.to and it is really neat. It looks like a good place
> > > to get quick answers to questions. 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > it interfaces the the web in numerous ways:
> > > > www.joe.to/cgi-bin/stats
> > > > www.joe.to/current.shtml
> > > > www.joe.to/cgi-bin/profiles?command=view
> > > > this page requires you to have logged in to the chat system first
> > > > www.joe.to/cgi-bin/mail?command=login
> > > > 
> > > > joe
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 	-Spike Gronim
> > > 	 sporkl@ix.netcom.com	
> > > 
> > > 
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Hello,

        Ok,  I feel really stupid having to ask this..

    I'm working on a program to communicate with an  Amada  Punch
Press.   It communicates serial.   I looked through the lists and found
a reference to the Serial Programming Guide for POSIX compliant
Operating Systems.   So using the information I gathered there I've
opened the serial port like this

    fd = open("/dev/ttyd0",  O_RDWR |  O_NOCTTY | O_NDELAY);

Then when I go to write to the port

    n = write(fd, "Hello This is a test", 20);

n ends up being -1.   I'm running this as root, I've tried with minicom
and it works fine.

Any suggestions?


Thanks

Mark

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> 2) tar does not do compression. If you want to do compression try,

Wrong.

> % tar cvf filename.tar *
> % gzip filename.tar
> 
> Or, to be more guruish,
> 
> % tar cvf - * | gzip -c > filename.tar.gz

Even better, RTFM.  FreeBSD's tar (which is really GNU tar) does
compression with either compress (the -Z option) or gzip (the -z
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> No, this is a mistake in the package. Xfree86 is not a package so you

That's strange.  It's certainly recognized as a package under
2.2.8-R.  Has that changed in 3.x?  If so, why?

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> > Pls say me, when i can get doc for FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE at English, if you
> > change it from 2.2.7R to 2.2.8R.
> 
> You've obviously looked in the wrong place.  The base FreeBSD
> documentation is in English.

Not on the 2.2.8 CDROMs -- the FAQ section was incorrectly
provided in Spanish.  The English version is available on the
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I just got the CDs in for FreeBSD.  The version is 3.0.  I'm
really beginning to think these install programs hate me.  I'm 
running install from a floppy.  I got past the part where I
got stuck last time and couldn't create the partition on the disk
label editor screen using the auto defaults option.  I got all 
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On Monday,  1 February 1999 at 20:28:12 -0500, Mark Turpin wrote:
> Hello,
>
>         Ok,  I feel really stupid having to ask this..
>
>     I'm working on a program to communicate with an  Amada  Punch
> Press.   It communicates serial.   I looked through the lists and found
> a reference to the Serial Programming Guide for POSIX compliant
> Operating Systems.   So using the information I gathered there I've
> opened the serial port like this
>
>     fd = open("/dev/ttyd0",  O_RDWR |  O_NOCTTY | O_NDELAY);
>
> Then when I go to write to the port
>
>     n = write(fd, "Hello This is a test", 20);
>
> n ends up being -1.   I'm running this as root, I've tried with minicom
> and it works fine.
>
> Any suggestions?

Look at errno and fd.

Greg
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rtinit: wrong ifa (0xf0b22000) was (0xf0989e00)
rtinit: wrong ifa (0xf0983e00) was (0xf0b28f00)

I've been seeing this little message pop up in my dmesg recently. FreeBSD
3.0-STABLE server. Can anybody explain this?


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I was just wondering how a person would go about closing
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Hi!

The FETCH_CMD on my system is set to be

	runsocks fetch -p

to work through the firewall, etc. This works just fine for ftp URLs,
but all of the http ones fail, claiming the host-name is unresolvable.

	mi@rtfm:~ (1100) runsocks fetch -p http://www.yahoo.com/index.html
	fetch: `www.yahoo.com': cannot resolve: Host name lookup failure
	mi@rtfm:~ (1101) runsocks fetch http://www.yahoo.com/index.html
	fetch: `www.yahoo.com': cannot resolve: Host name lookup failure

The socks5 daemon runs on 2.2.8-stable. The client machine is the 3.0-stable.

The immediate nslookup resolves the host just fine... Any ideas?  Thanks!

	-mi

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Hello.  I'm using FreeBSD 2.2.7-RELEASE.  I have two network
interfaces to the outside world, a slow one (sl0) and a fast one
(de0).  My IP addresses are based on my slow link since I have a class
C on that network, but I want the fast link (which has a single
dynamic IP address via dhclient) to be used for most communication.
This router machine, obviously, has two IP addresses -- one for each
network.

dhclient-script configures my routing table with a default route to
the fast link, and from that (router) machine, everything works fine.
However, the other machines on the LAN (ed0) are receiving data only
over the slow link (since their IP addresses are in the class C of
that link).

I would like redirect packets to be sent on all requests inbound on
the slow link, so that the fast link is used instead.  I've looked at
"route", "routed", "gated", "ipfirewall", and "ipfw" and the only
thing that looks like it might work is the 'divert' option in
ipfirewall, but that option seems not to be available in ipfw, and I
can't find any apps that use the divert sockets.

Am I going about this in the wrong way?  Is there a better way to get
the fast link to be used whenever it's available?  I _do_ want the
slow link to be used when the fast one goes down for some reason, or
while a new dynamic IP adderss is propogating through the name
servers.

Thanks for any assistance,

Derrell Lipman

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I have a system with an ATAPI IDE CD-ROM drive (Lucky Goldstar CRD-8322B),
and a SCSI hard disk off a Diamond Fireport 40 controller.

When I try booting off a FreeBSD-2.2.8 installation CD, the kernel
doesn't detect the IDE CD-ROM unless I also hook up an IDE Disk.

I've tried using the "Cable Select", "Master" and "Slave" settings
on the drive, and they all fail.  When using "Cable Select" or "Master" the IDE
controller is detected but the drive is not.  With the "Slave" setting,
the controller is not detected at all.

Should FreeBSD-2.x be able to work with just one IDE device which is a
CD-ROM?

	Thanks,
	Castor Fu


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On Monday,  1 February 1999 at 20:19:59 -0800, Castor Fu wrote:
> I have a system with an ATAPI IDE CD-ROM drive (Lucky Goldstar CRD-8322B),
> and a SCSI hard disk off a Diamond Fireport 40 controller.
>
> When I try booting off a FreeBSD-2.2.8 installation CD, the kernel
> doesn't detect the IDE CD-ROM unless I also hook up an IDE Disk.
>
> I've tried using the "Cable Select", "Master" and "Slave" settings
> on the drive, and they all fail.  When using "Cable Select" or "Master" the IDE
> controller is detected but the drive is not.  With the "Slave" setting,
> the controller is not detected at all.
>
> Should FreeBSD-2.x be able to work with just one IDE device which is a
> CD-ROM?

It should be able to, but it's a weak area.  Is it possible that your
CD-ROM should be jumpered for neither master nor slave when it's by
itself?  Probably the easiest thing to do is to download the 3.0 boot
disk; you don't need to install 3.0, but it'll tell you if it finds
the CD-ROM or not.

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According to Walnut Creeks web page Applixware is currently being ported to
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Is this port to 3.x or 2.2.x and are they on schedule?


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Finally got the libs problem taken care of. Tried installing the package,
then some of the prgs. that it needs went back to X11R5! After that, I
gave up on Apsfilter (unless everything has been upgraded since 3.0-R)
Thanks for your help. I do appreciate it.
Mike


On Mon, 1 Feb 1999, Greg Lehey wrote:

> On Saturday, 30 January 1999 at 20:03:11 -0900, Mike Endsley wrote:
> > On Sun, 31 Jan 1999, Greg Lehey wrote:
> >
> >> On Saturday, 30 January 1999 at 19:46:38 -0900, Mike Endsley wrote:
> >>> I am trying to install apsfilter, but get that @#^$#$#$% problem with
> >>> Imake.tmpl. The problem is that I have Imake.tmpl on my system!
> >>> Right now, it is in /usr/compat/linux/var/X11R6/lib/config/Imake.tmpl.
> >>> Should I copy it elsewhere? I don't know why it is there.
> >>
> >> If that's the only place you have it, it looks as if you haven't
> >> installed the X11 development software.  You'll need to do that.
> >> Don't use the Linux Imake.tmpl, it's not appropriate.
> >
> > Do you know which tgz file that is? I used Xprog.tgz from my 3.0-R cd.
> 
> That should be the one:
> 
> $ tar tzvf Xprog.tgz | grep Imake
> -r--r--r-- root/wheel    84341 Nov 14 12:15 1998 lib/X11/config/Imake.rules
> -r--r--r-- root/wheel    34113 Nov 14 12:15 1998 lib/X11/config/Imake.tmpl
> -r--r--r-- root/wheel    14648 Nov 14 12:15 1998 lib/X11/config/Imake.cf
> 
> This should end up under /usr/X11R6.  Do you have it there?  Otherwise
> you should reinstall the archive.
> 
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On Tue, 2 Feb 1999, Greg Lehey wrote:

> On Monday,  1 February 1999 at 20:19:59 -0800, Castor Fu wrote:
> > I have a system with an ATAPI IDE CD-ROM drive (Lucky Goldstar CRD-8322B),
> > and a SCSI hard disk off a Diamond Fireport 40 controller.
> >
> > When I try booting off a FreeBSD-2.2.8 installation CD, the kernel
> > doesn't detect the IDE CD-ROM unless I also hook up an IDE Disk.
> >
> > I've tried using the "Cable Select", "Master" and "Slave" settings
> > on the drive, and they all fail.  When using "Cable Select" or "Master" the IDE
> > controller is detected but the drive is not.  With the "Slave" setting,
> > the controller is not detected at all.
> >
> > Should FreeBSD-2.x be able to work with just one IDE device which is a
> > CD-ROM?
> 
> It should be able to, but it's a weak area.  Is it possible that your
> CD-ROM should be jumpered for neither master nor slave when it's by
> itself?  Probably the easiest thing to do is to download the 3.0 boot
> disk; you don't need to install 3.0, but it'll tell you if it finds
> the CD-ROM or not.

I assumed that the "Cable Select" position was equivalent to neither
master nor slave.  Booting with the FreeBSD-3.0-RELEASE boot floppy doesn't
detect the CD-ROM drive either.  Is the new Atapi-CD driver likely to 
change things?

Linux works just fine in this configuration.

	-castor


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On Monday,  1 February 1999 at 21:19:55 -0800, Castor Fu wrote:
> On Tue, 2 Feb 1999, Greg Lehey wrote:
>
>> On Monday,  1 February 1999 at 20:19:59 -0800, Castor Fu wrote:
>>> I have a system with an ATAPI IDE CD-ROM drive (Lucky Goldstar CRD-8322B),
>>> and a SCSI hard disk off a Diamond Fireport 40 controller.
>>>
>>> When I try booting off a FreeBSD-2.2.8 installation CD, the kernel
>>> doesn't detect the IDE CD-ROM unless I also hook up an IDE Disk.
>>>
>>> I've tried using the "Cable Select", "Master" and "Slave" settings
>>> on the drive, and they all fail.  When using "Cable Select" or "Master" the IDE
>>> controller is detected but the drive is not.  With the "Slave" setting,
>>> the controller is not detected at all.
>>>
>>> Should FreeBSD-2.x be able to work with just one IDE device which is a
>>> CD-ROM?
>>
>> It should be able to, but it's a weak area.  Is it possible that your
>> CD-ROM should be jumpered for neither master nor slave when it's by
>> itself?  Probably the easiest thing to do is to download the 3.0 boot
>> disk; you don't need to install 3.0, but it'll tell you if it finds
>> the CD-ROM or not.
>
> I assumed that the "Cable Select" position was equivalent to neither
> master nor slave.  Booting with the FreeBSD-3.0-RELEASE boot floppy doesn't
> detect the CD-ROM drive either.  Is the new Atapi-CD driver likely to
> change things?

I believe the new driver is already there in 3.0-RELEASE.  This looks
like bad news.

> Linux works just fine in this configuration.

That at least confirms that you have the jumpers set correctly.  I'll
check who's supporting this stuff.

Greg
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I am getting a new ultra SCSI disk. I don't have it yet but it will be
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I had thought about gmake. The gmake manual is intimdating. It is easy to
modify something that is generated and works. Creating the makefile from
scratch is something else. I also assumed that I needed to supply parameters
to the veraious steps. Your suggested sequence was so simple that it was
worth it to see what it would do. The problem is that the main program
overwhelms the table and kills the build on the first module and continues
on. The message I get is that I have to supply -Nn802 to f77 for the main
program. I don't think it would matter if the table was extended for all of
the modules. I didn't capture the output; however, the defaults appear to
work for everything else. The other thing is that this process isn't
generating object output and it takes about 45 minutes to compile
everything. That becomes a serious problem because it recompiles everything,
everytime. A make generator should create something that looks like

stuff ...

main.o : main.f
	f77 -? main.f
link1.o : link1.f
	f77 -? link1.f

and etc. for all of the functions and subroutines. This depends on a ".o"
being created for each compiled module, which reduces the recompiles to the
changed module. I haven't seen an object file. The basic process is
complicated because f77 isn't a real compiler. It calls f2c which takes the
FORTRAN code and produces c code. Then, it compiles the c code with gcc.

A simple compile and make with f77 produces nothing but the a.out. I am
really trying to make this program run on a PC where I have to cope with 32
bit floats and integers instead of 64 bit - everythings. Unicos and CFT77
(Cray) and FreeBSD and f77 only appear to have common roots. A much older
version runs on a Sun box and this newer version would be nice.

Kent


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> On Monday,  1 February 1999 at 11:24:50 -0800, Kent Stewart wrote:
> > On most of the Unix systems I have used there is a make generator for
> > Fortran. I don't see such a product on FreeBSD for f77. I have a large
> > program, i.e., more than 300 modules, that was last used on a Cray. The
> > sources as provided do not contain a makefile. I would like to try and build
> > it on FreeBSD but would hate to have to create the makefile by hand <grin>.
> > Is there something like mkmf that will generate a makefile.
> 
> Not that I know of.  Have you tried gmake?  It knows about Fortran
> programs.  You probably need very little to make a usable Makefile.
> For example, if you create a single executable out of your 300 .f
> programs, you might do:
> 
>   $ ls *.f | xargs | sed 's/^/PROG:     /' > Makefile
> 
> Substitute the name of your program for PROG.
> 
> Greg
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Greg,
     Would you consider Vinum to be production ready?  Can Vinum
mirror the /  filesystem?  If not, are there plans to do this?  If
there are plans, what is the timeframe?

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On Monday,  1 February 1999 at 21:41:08 -0800, Kent Stewart wrote:
> Greg Lehey wrote:
>> On Monday,  1 February 1999 at 11:24:50 -0800, Kent Stewart wrote:
>>> On most of the Unix systems I have used there is a make generator for
>>> Fortran. I don't see such a product on FreeBSD for f77. I have a large
>>> program, i.e., more than 300 modules, that was last used on a Cray. The
>>> sources as provided do not contain a makefile. I would like to try and build
>>> it on FreeBSD but would hate to have to create the makefile by hand <grin>.
>>> Is there something like mkmf that will generate a makefile.
>>
>> Not that I know of.  Have you tried gmake?  It knows about Fortran
>> programs.  You probably need very little to make a usable Makefile.
>> For example, if you create a single executable out of your 300 .f
>> programs, you might do:
>>
>>   $ ls *.f | xargs | sed 's/^/PROG:     /' > Makefile
>>
>> Substitute the name of your program for PROG.
>
> I had thought about gmake. The gmake manual is intimdating. It is easy to
> modify something that is generated and works. Creating the makefile from
> scratch is something else. I also assumed that I needed to supply parameters
> to the veraious steps. Your suggested sequence was so simple that it was
> worth it to see what it would do. The problem is that the main program
> overwhelms the table and kills the build on the first module and continues
> on. The message I get is that I have to supply -Nn802 to f77 for the main
> program. I don't think it would matter if the table was extended for all of
> the modules. I didn't capture the output; however, the defaults appear to
> work for everything else. The other thing is that this process isn't
> generating object output and it takes about 45 minutes to compile
> everything. That becomes a serious problem because it recompiles everything,
> everytime. 

I'm not sure I understand this, but it doesn't sound right.  What does
your Makefile look like?

> A make generator should create something that looks like
>
> stuff ...
>
> main.o : main.f
> 	f77 -? main.f
> link1.o : link1.f
> 	f77 -? link1.f

No, a Makefile generator should *never* generate something like that
unless each and every module needs a different command, which would be
very poor style.  You can replace all of this stuff with:

.f.o:
	f77 -? $<

This has the advantage that it will still work if you add modules to
the directory.

> and etc. for all of the functions and subroutines. This depends on a ".o"
> being created for each compiled module, which reduces the recompiles to the
> changed module. I haven't seen an object file. The basic process is
> complicated because f77 isn't a real compiler. It calls f2c which takes the
> FORTRAN code and produces c code. Then, it compiles the c code with
> gcc.

That shouldn't make any difference.

> A simple compile and make with f77 produces nothing but the a.out.

OK, I understand that.

> I am really trying to make this program run on a PC where I have to
> cope with 32 bit floats and integers instead of 64 bit -
> everythings. 

When you say a PC, do you mean Microsoft?  FreeBSD runs on PCs, but it
supports 64 bit doubles (I thought Microsoft did too).

To get object files for each source file, try making the Makefile like
this:

  $ ls *.f | sed 's/.f$/.o/ | xargs | sed 's/^/PROG:     /' > Makefile

This will make the program dependent on the objects and not on the
sources.

Greg
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On Tuesday,  2 February 1999 at  5:43:28 +0000, Elliot Finley wrote:
> Greg,

If you send me a mail message, please put my name on the To: line.  My
mailer flags such messages, and so I see them.  Otherwise you risk
being one of the 300 messages I delete without reading every day.

> Would you consider Vinum to be production ready?

Sort of :-)  I'd be happier with more testing, but it appears to be
more stable than ccd.

> Can Vinum mirror the / filesystem?

Not yet.

> If not, are there plans to do this?

Yes.

> If there are plans, what is the timeframe?

In the future :-)  

I don't want to be tied down on this one.  In the meantime, you can
create a vinum volume, say, /Root, and make all of what belongs in / a
symlink into /Root.  There's very little on / which really needs to be
there before Vinum starts up.  

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I have just inherited a server that has been relocated from CA to NY

All that I need to do is to change the IP address of the machine.

How can I do this?  I have been unable to find directions on any of the webpages.

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On Monday,  1 February 1999 at 23:25:52 -0600, Glenn Johnson wrote:
> I am getting a new ultra SCSI disk. I don't have it yet but it will be
> something between 4 and 4.5 GB. I currently have a WDC AC21600H, 1549MB
> drive. I will be making the SCSI disk my primary disk and was trying to
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> and the IDE drive. Does any one have a feel for what the performance of
> that setup would be?

As long as you have only one drive per IDE controller, and if you can
use DMA, performance should be acceptable.   It depends a lot on how
you set up Vinum, of course.

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Hello,
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I have just inherited a server that has been relocated from CA to NY

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Is there a version of FreeBSD that will run on older 68030 MacIntosh
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On Monday,  1 February 1999 at 22:08:34 +0000, Andrew Caner wrote:
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> Is there a version of FreeBSD that will run on older 68030 MacIntosh
> machines such as the IIci and SE30?

No.  FreeBSD doesn't run on Macs.  Try NetBSD or OpenBSD.

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There isn't a version of FreeBSD, but there are other *BSD's that will run
on that architechure (sp?).

Look into NetBSD (www.netbsd.org) and OpenBSD (www.openbsd.org).  Both of
those run quite well on older Macs. I have NetBSD on a couple of Macs here.

Chris

On Mon, 1 Feb 1999, Andrew Caner wrote:

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> Is there a version of FreeBSD that will run on older 68030 MacIntosh
> machines such as the IIci and SE30? If so, where on the net can it found
> for download?
> 
> Thanks,
> adc@islandnet.com
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On 01-Feb-99 Andrew Caner wrote:
> 
> Is there a version of FreeBSD that will run on older 68030 MacIntosh
> machines such as the IIci and SE30? If so, where on the net can it found
> for download?
> 
> Thanks,
> adc@islandnet.com
> 

No, FreeBSD does not support any other platforms (at this time) than x86 and
alpha.

You can try NetBSD:
http://www.netbsd.org/Ports/mac68k/index.html
or OpenBSD:
http://www.openbsd.org/mac68k.html

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Morris,
	I'm attempting to read between the lines on your message, so I may be way
off.

	I seem to remember that ftp can be setup to "chroot" users to a specific
directory of your choosing. (This may require something other than the
default ftpd.)

	For example user Joe could set to access only directory
/usr/home/Joe/public_html each time he uses ftp to update his .html files.
Joe could not leave this directory.

	A different method I'v used, is Samba. The nice thing about Samba, is that
a Share is much like a "map root" on Novell.  The default config file that
come with samba has the user's directories exported to them.


	[RC]


At 01:35 PM 1/31/99 -0600, Morris Allen wrote:
>Hi:
>
>	I have been using FreeBSD for 3 years now.  I just installed the new
>version of 3.0.  The question I have has to do with security access:
>
>As in Novel when you set the security attributes, the user can view and work
>from his directory down. But he/she can not move upstream to look into
>directories above his or hers.
>
>Can this be done with FreeBSD?  If so what is the command and could you give
>me instructions on how to do it.  My problem is,  my users are going into
>other users directories.  I have the attributes setup so they can not write
>or erase, but they are playing in system areas as well as other areas that
>they do not need access to even view.  So in other words,  I want them to be
>able to get into their homepage files and to have the ability to have their
>files viewed from the net, but I want them contained into their
>/home/directory and not able to snoop, in directories above theirs.  Advance
>warning,  I am still a novice in the great world of FreeBSD.
>
>thanks
>Morris Allen
>
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but I would want to know one thing,
I have 2 same model hard drives
why does the message about just one of them?

On Mon, 1 Feb 1999, Karl Pielorz wrote:

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> 
> Evren Yurtesen wrote:
> > 
> > well I do not even use the drive!
> > it just shows up after I push the power button and
> > FreeBSD login prompt comes (sometimes not right away
> > but it comes even when I do not touch anything in 1 or
> > 2 minutes max. and I do not have any processes running
> > else than standart processes which come with standart
> > FreeBSD box)
> 
> Maybe just the activity from the initial fsck/mount is enough to cause it?...
> It shouldn't be any real cause for concern...
> 
> -Kp
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At 10:03 PM 2/1/99 , Larry Orchier wrote:
>I have just inherited a server that has been relocated from CA to NY
>
>All that I need to do is to change the IP address of the machine, gateway,  
>and name servers
>
>How can I do this?  I have been unable to find directions on any of the 
>webpages.

First of all, don't send two copies of the same message six minutes apart.

The IP address for the network interface is set in /etc/rc.conf. However,
there are probably a lot of configuration files which refer to the old IP,
so a "grep OLDIP /etc/*" and "grep OLDIP /usr/local/etc/*" would probably
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Subject says it all. I want to post a notice to Net News via a
script. Looked in the ports collection and didn't see anything there that
would help. Does anybody know of a package or a script that would get me
started.


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hi
my name is cindy and i am about to start IT at UQ this year and i want learn unix but i have absolutely no idea what to do...
I have access to the www and i am using windows98 and i want to install freebsd.... i was wandering if you could help me install this programe by giving me an exact instruction of what to do coz i don't have a cd-rom version and i don't quite understand the floppy installation instructions...
PLEASE Help me!!!!!!
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Larry, 

Two methods.

a) without rebooting

ifconfig ep0 inet  xxx.xxx.xxx.xx  netmask 255.255.255.0 up

where I am assuming your nic card is ep0  [check dmesg to see what it really is]

b) safe way, with rebooting

edit the file /etc/rc.conf

Then reboot.

This method is probably easier and clearer.

Jeff




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> 
> All that I need to do is to change the IP address of the machine, gateway,  and name servers
> 
> How can I do this?  I have been unable to find directions on any of the webpages.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Larry Orchier
> 
> 
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On Monday,  1 February 1999 at 22:36:14 -0800, Castor Fu wrote:
>> I believe the new driver is already there in 3.0-RELEASE.  This looks
>> like bad news.
>>
>>> Linux works just fine in this configuration.
>>
>> That at least confirms that you have the jumpers set correctly.  I'll
>> check who's supporting this stuff.
>
> Thanks!  Hopefully it's something simple and just represents an
> untested corner case.

Sorry, I thought I had a name, but I can't find it.  Could you
send-pr, please, or enter a PR via the web at
http://www.FreeBSD.org/send-pr.html.

Thanks
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I used the piped command and starts out with the program name:	a.f a1.f a2.f
... name.f ... z.f 

The line wraps many times <grin>.

I have downloaded the GMake Manual and I'm looking at adding the rules. It
will have to be broken into the separate modules.

Greg Lehey wrote:
> 
> On Monday,  1 February 1999 at 21:41:08 -0800, Kent Stewart wrote:
> > Greg Lehey wrote:
> >> On Monday,  1 February 1999 at 11:24:50 -0800, Kent Stewart wrote:
> >>> On most of the Unix systems I have used there is a make generator for
> >>> Fortran. I don't see such a product on FreeBSD for f77. I have a large
> >>> program, i.e., more than 300 modules, that was last used on a Cray. The
> >>> sources as provided do not contain a makefile. I would like to try and build
> >>> it on FreeBSD but would hate to have to create the makefile by hand <grin>.
> >>> Is there something like mkmf that will generate a makefile.
> >>
> >> Not that I know of.  Have you tried gmake?  It knows about Fortran
> >> programs.  You probably need very little to make a usable Makefile.
> >> For example, if you create a single executable out of your 300 .f
> >> programs, you might do:
> >>
> >>   $ ls *.f | xargs | sed 's/^/PROG:     /' > Makefile
> >>
> >> Substitute the name of your program for PROG.
> >
> > I had thought about gmake. The gmake manual is intimdating. It is easy to
> > modify something that is generated and works. Creating the makefile from
> > scratch is something else. I also assumed that I needed to supply parameters
> > to the veraious steps. Your suggested sequence was so simple that it was
> > worth it to see what it would do. The problem is that the main program
> > overwhelms the table and kills the build on the first module and continues
> > on. The message I get is that I have to supply -Nn802 to f77 for the main
> > program. I don't think it would matter if the table was extended for all of
> > the modules. I didn't capture the output; however, the defaults appear to
> > work for everything else. The other thing is that this process isn't
> > generating object output and it takes about 45 minutes to compile
> > everything. That becomes a serious problem because it recompiles everything,
> > everytime.
> 
> I'm not sure I understand this, but it doesn't sound right.  What does
> your Makefile look like?
> 
> > A make generator should create something that looks like
> >
> > stuff ...
> >
> > main.o : main.f
> >       f77 -? main.f
> > link1.o : link1.f
> >       f77 -? link1.f
> 
> No, a Makefile generator should *never* generate something like that
> unless each and every module needs a different command, which would be
> very poor style.  You can replace all of this stuff with:
> 
> .f.o:
>         f77 -? $<
> 
> This has the advantage that it will still work if you add modules to
> the directory.

I like that. It is KISS simple. There are actually two programs with some
modules being shared and not all but I'm not worrying about that right now.
It is easier to build each in their own directory.

> 
> > and etc. for all of the functions and subroutines. This depends on a ".o"
> > being created for each compiled module, which reduces the recompiles to the
> > changed module. I haven't seen an object file. The basic process is
> > complicated because f77 isn't a real compiler. It calls f2c which takes the
> > FORTRAN code and produces c code. Then, it compiles the c code with
> > gcc.
> 
> That shouldn't make any difference.
> 
> > A simple compile and make with f77 produces nothing but the a.out.
> 
> OK, I understand that.
> 
> > I am really trying to make this program run on a PC where I have to
> > cope with 32 bit floats and integers instead of 64 bit -
> > everythings.
> 
> When you say a PC, do you mean Microsoft?  FreeBSD runs on PCs, but it
> supports 64 bit doubles (I thought Microsoft did too).
> 

They all do. But when you do a bit mask on a 64-bit integer, you get a
different result than when you try to mask a double integer on a 32-bit
machine because you usually only get the least significant 32-bits masked.
DEC Alpha's and Cray's support 64 bit integer masks. As a personal project,
I am trying to run it on a PC running FreeBSD. Using the "ln" command to
create local files would permit a setup that doesn't work well in the MS
environment. The program doesn't need GUI and FreeBSD could be an ideal
home. This program and a couple of others typically crank for hours and then
writes out a few histories and results. The users change a few numbers and
run the new design. They occasionally let it run all weekend. All you need
is a good solid system that everybody can get to and then let it run. You
can't telnet to NT without add-on products and they have to sit at the
console. 

I have DEC's Visual Fortran on an NT workstation. I have compiled and linked
the program as a Win32 Console app but it dies on an internal problem during
debug. It turns out there are some differences between Fortran on Unix and
Fortran on Windows32. The big area seems to be how the compilers deal with
entry points. Some compilers expect the each call to the entry point to
supply the original argument list. Some compilers permit new arguments with
continued access to the original arguments. This program assumes that you
can introduce new arguments and still have access to the old. The Cray
compiler permited one style and the Dec compiler used the new style. There
aren't that many modules with entry points the might have to be modified
once I have something that can be modified, built and run in the debugger.


> To get object files for each source file, try making the Makefile like
> this:
> 
>   $ ls *.f | sed 's/.f$/.o/ | xargs | sed 's/^/PROG:     /' > Makefile
> 
> This will make the program dependent on the objects and not on the
> sources.

It looked like it was starting out right but complains about too many names.
I will have to create the rules version and see what it does.

I still haven't seen an option to create object output.


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/usr/ports/news/p5-News-Article is where I'd start.

HTH,

Jerry Hicks
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From: Josef Grosch <jgrosch@mooseriver.com>
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> Subject says it all. I want to post a notice to Net News via a
> script. Looked in the ports collection and didn't see anything there that
> would help. Does anybody know of a package or a script that would get me
> started.
> 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Josef
> 
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> From: Mark Turpin <mturpin@spel.com>
> Subject: Serial programming

>     I'm working on a program to communicate with an  Amada  Punch
> Press.   It communicates serial.   I looked through the lists and found
> a reference to the Serial Programming Guide for POSIX compliant
> Operating Systems.   So using the information I gathered there I've
> opened the serial port like this
> 
>     fd = open("/dev/ttyd0",  O_RDWR |  O_NOCTTY | O_NDELAY);
> 
> Then when I go to write to the port
> 
>     n = write(fd, "Hello This is a test", 20);
> 
> n ends up being -1.   I'm running this as root, I've tried with minicom
> and it works fine.
> 
> Any suggestions?

May you should work with /dev/cuaa0 instead ?
As far as I know you will be blocked while opening /dev/ttyd0 until
there will be DCD line active.

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> From: Mark Turpin <mturpin@spel.com>
> Subject: Serial programming
> 
>     I'm working on a program to communicate with an  Amada  Punch
> Press.   It communicates serial.   I looked through the lists and found
> a reference to the Serial Programming Guide for POSIX compliant
> Operating Systems.   So using the information I gathered there I've
> opened the serial port like this
> 
>     fd = open("/dev/ttyd0",  O_RDWR |  O_NOCTTY | O_NDELAY);
> 
> Then when I go to write to the port
> 
>     n = write(fd, "Hello This is a test", 20);
> 
> n ends up being -1.   I'm running this as root, I've tried with minicom
> and it works fine.
> 
> Any suggestions?

I ported qtalk from QNX to FreeBSD;  It seems to work well for me and
illustrates asynch programming for Unix pretty well (YMMV)

http://www.geocities.com/ResearchTriangle/ThinkTank/8131/qtalk.tgz

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On Mon, 1 Feb 1999, Gustavo Vieira G C Rios wrote:

(This almost certainly belongs on freebsd-questions)

> where can i get a SCSI device compatible list to BSD-s ?

  SCSI device?  What kind of device?  Controller?  Disk?  Tape?

> How to get RAID working on my 2.2.8Stable?

  What kind of RAID?  I use DPT.

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Greg Black wrote:
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> > No, this is a mistake in the package. Xfree86 is not a package so you
> 
> That's strange.  It's certainly recognized as a package under
> 2.2.8-R.  Has that changed in 3.x?  If so, why?
> 

Well, I'm running 2.2.8 and there's no /var/db/pkg entry for XFree.
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Ok...as I prepare to load my next FreeBSD machine I was
wonder what the "opinion" on the /opt partition is.  I see
it mentioned in some circles (such as KDE) but have never
considered it.  I'm sure it's just preference to have an
/opt partition..just like I could make a /mike
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On Mon, Feb 01, 1999 at 06:36:48PM +1030, Greg Lehey wrote:
> On Sunday, 31 January 1999 at 22:24:45 -0800, Brian W. Buchanan wrote:
> > I like to open lots of xterms, but I've found that once I have 16 ptys in
> > use, I can't spawn any more.  I've rebuilt my kernel with:
> >
> > pseudo-device	pty 32
> >
> > And I know I have enough pty device entries in /dev, but I still run into
> > the 16-pty limit.
> 
> How do you know you're running into the 16 pty limit?  What's the
> message?  What are the names of your second group of 16 ptys?

Actually, they seem to be allocated in groups of 32, not 16.  From
/dev/MAKEDEV: [1]

pty*)
        class=`expr $i : 'pty\(.*\)'`
        case $class in
        0) offset=0 name=p;;
        1) offset=32 name=q;;
        2) offset=64 name=r;;
        3) offset=96 name=s;;
# Note that xterm (at least) only look at p-s.
        4) offset=128 name=P;;
        5) offset=160 name=Q;;
        6) offset=192 name=R;;
        7) offset=224 name=S;;
        # This still leaves [tuTU].
        *) echo bad unit for pty in: $i;;
        esac
        case $class in
        0|1|2|3|4|5|6|7)
                umask 0
                eval `echo $offset $name | awk ' { b=$1; n=$2 } END { \
                        for (i = 0; i < 32; i++) {
                                c = substr("0123456789abcdefghijklmnopqrstuv", i
 + 1, 1); \
                                printf("mknod tty%s%s c 5 %d; \
                                        mknod pty%s%s c 6 %d;", \
                                        n, c, b+i, \
                                        n, c, b+i); \
                        } \
                }'`
                umask 77
                ;;
        esac
        ;;


[1] The MAKEDEV man page specifies groups of 16.  Odd.  Not updated
perhaps.  docs/9879.

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On 2 Feb 1999, Larry Orchier wrote:

> I have just inherited a server that has been relocated from CA to NY
> 
> All that I need to do is to change the IP address of the machine,
> gateway, and name servers
>
> How can I do this?  I have been unable to find directions on any of
> the webpages.

hi larry,

just edit the file `/etc/rc.conf' and look for the appropriate entries.

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On Monday,  1 February 1999 at 23:08:09 -0800, Kent Stewart wrote:
> Greg Lehey wrote:
>>
>> On Monday,  1 February 1999 at 21:41:08 -0800, Kent Stewart wrote:
>>> Greg Lehey wrote:
>>>> On Monday,  1 February 1999 at 11:24:50 -0800, Kent Stewart wrote:
>>>>> On most of the Unix systems I have used there is a make generator for
>>>>> Fortran. I don't see such a product on FreeBSD for f77. I have a large
>>>>> program, i.e., more than 300 modules, that was last used on a Cray. The
>>>>> sources as provided do not contain a makefile. I would like to try and build
>>>>> it on FreeBSD but would hate to have to create the makefile by hand <grin>.
>>>>> Is there something like mkmf that will generate a makefile.
>>>>
>>>> Not that I know of.  Have you tried gmake?  It knows about Fortran
>>>> programs.  You probably need very little to make a usable Makefile.
>>>> For example, if you create a single executable out of your 300 .f
>>>> programs, you might do:
>>>>
>>>>   $ ls *.f | xargs | sed 's/^/PROG:     /' > Makefile
>>>>
>>>> Substitute the name of your program for PROG.
>>>
>>> I had thought about gmake. The gmake manual is intimdating. It is easy to
>>> modify something that is generated and works. Creating the makefile from
>>> scratch is something else. I also assumed that I needed to supply parameters
>>> to the veraious steps. Your suggested sequence was so simple that it was
>>> worth it to see what it would do. The problem is that the main program
>>> overwhelms the table and kills the build on the first module and continues
>>> on. The message I get is that I have to supply -Nn802 to f77 for the main
>>> program. I don't think it would matter if the table was extended for all of
>>> the modules. I didn't capture the output; however, the defaults appear to
>>> work for everything else. The other thing is that this process isn't
>>> generating object output and it takes about 45 minutes to compile
>>> everything. That becomes a serious problem because it recompiles everything,
>>> everytime.
>>
>> I'm not sure I understand this, but it doesn't sound right.  What does
>> your Makefile look like?
>
> I used the piped command and starts out with the program name:	a.f a1.f a2.f
> ... name.f ... z.f
>
> The line wraps many times <grin>.
>
> I have downloaded the GMake Manual and I'm looking at adding the rules. It
> will have to be broken into the separate modules.

Why?

>>> A make generator should create something that looks like
>>>
>>> stuff ...
>>>
>>> main.o : main.f
>>>       f77 -? main.f
>>> link1.o : link1.f
>>>       f77 -? link1.f
>>
>> No, a Makefile generator should *never* generate something like that
>> unless each and every module needs a different command, which would be
>> very poor style.  You can replace all of this stuff with:
>>
>> .f.o:
>>         f77 -? $<
>>
>> This has the advantage that it will still work if you add modules to
>> the directory.
>
> I like that. It is KISS simple. There are actually two programs with some
> modules being shared and not all but I'm not worrying about that
> right now.

Ah.  That's different, of course.  Yes, that *is* something to worry
about.  But then all you need is:

all:	prog1 prog2
prog1:  a.o b.o c.o g.o
prog2:  a.o d.o f.o g.o

> It is easier to build each in their own directory.

Not necessarily.  Then you need PATH directives and make
implementation dependent things.  If they share a lot of modules,
you're better off in one directory.

>> To get object files for each source file, try making the Makefile like
>> this:
>>
>>   $ ls *.f | sed 's/.f$/.o/ | xargs | sed 's/^/PROG:     /' > Makefile
>>
>> This will make the program dependent on the objects and not on the
>> sources.
>
> It looked like it was starting out right but complains about too
> many names.

Hmm.  I tried it and found I'd left out an apostrophe.  Should be:

  $ls *.f | sed 's/.f$/.o/' | xargs | sed 's/^/PROG:     /' > Makefile

When I run it on this directory:

  $ ls
  Makefile        ew.f            g.f             hfg.f           rq.f            we.f            wqer.f
  cwste.f         ewr.f           gd.f            hw.f            sd.f            weyt.f
  d.f             f.f             gdf.f           qw.f            tq.f            wq.f
  df.f            fd.f            h.f             qwe.f           w.f             wqe.f

I get:

PROG:     cwste.o d.o df.o ew.o ewr.o f.o fd.o g.o gd.o gdf.o h.o hfg.o hw.o qw.o qwe.o rq.o sd.o tq.o w.o we.o weyt.o wq.o wqe.o wqer.o

Then I run gmake:

   $ gmake -k
   f77   -c cwste.f -o cwste.o
   f77   -c d.f -o d.o
   f77   -c df.f -o df.o
   f77   -c ew.f -o ew.o
   f77   -c ewr.f -o ewr.o
   f77   -c f.f -o f.o
   f77   -c fd.f -o fd.o
   f77   -c g.f -o g.o
   f77   -c gd.f -o gd.o
   f77   -c gdf.f -o gdf.o
   f77   -c h.f -o h.o
   f77   -c hfg.f -o hfg.o
   f77   -c hw.f -o hw.o
   f77   -c qw.f -o qw.o
   f77   -c qwe.f -o qwe.o
   f77   -c rq.f -o rq.o
   f77   -c sd.f -o sd.o
   f77   -c tq.f -o tq.o
   f77   -c w.f -o w.o
   f77   -c we.f -o we.o
   f77   -c weyt.f -o weyt.o
   f77   -c wq.f -o wq.o
   f77   -c wqe.f -o wqe.o
   f77   -c wqer.f -o wqer.o
   
This doesn't perform the link stage.  You'd need a rule for that.
Change again:

  $ ls *.f | sed 's/.f$/.o/' | xargs | sed 's/^/OBJS =     /' > Makefile

This gives the first line of the following Makefile; you need to add
the rest yourself:

    OBJS =     cwste.o d.o df.o ew.o ewr.o f.o fd.o g.o gd.o gdf.o h.o hfg.o hw.o qw.o qwe.o rq.o sd.o tq.o w.o we.o weyt.o wq.o wqe.o wqer.o

    prog:	${OBJS}
	    ld -o $@ ${OBJS}

When I run gmake, I get:

   $ gmake
   ld -o prog cwste.o d.o df.o ew.o ewr.o f.o fd.o g.o gd.o gdf.o h.o hfg.o hw.o qw.o qwe.o rq.o sd.o tq.o w.o we.o weyt.o wq.o wqe.o wqer.o
   /usr/libexec/elf/ld: warning: cannot find entry symbol _start; defaulting to 08048074

This last message tells me that I at least have created a broken
executable; since all my modules are empty, that's not surprising.  It
should work for you.

> I will have to create the rules version and see what it does.

Nope, you never need that.

> I still haven't seen an option to create object output.

Yes you have, you just didn't recognize it :-)

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> I have just inherited a server that has been relocated from CA to NY
> All that I need to do is to change the IP address of the machine.
> How can I do this?  I have been unable to find directions on any of the webpages.

you don't say what version but you could do it with..

ifconfig (device) etc...

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On Monday,  1 February 1999 at 23:54:49 -0800, Gregory Sutter wrote:
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>> On Sunday, 31 January 1999 at 22:24:45 -0800, Brian W. Buchanan wrote:
>>> I like to open lots of xterms, but I've found that once I have 16 ptys in
>>> use, I can't spawn any more.  I've rebuilt my kernel with:
>>>
>>> pseudo-device	pty 32
>>>
>>> And I know I have enough pty device entries in /dev, but I still run into
>>> the 16-pty limit.
>>
>> How do you know you're running into the 16 pty limit?  What's the
>> message?  What are the names of your second group of 16 ptys?
>
> Actually, they seem to be allocated in groups of 32, not 16.  From
> /dev/MAKEDEV: [1]
>
> pty*)
>
> <snip>

We're talking about two different things here.  One is how many are
built in the kernel, which is defined in /sys/i386/conf/MYCONFFILE,
and defaults to 16 in GENERIC:

pseudo-device	pty	16	#Pseudo ttys - can go as high as 256

The other is this horrible stuff in /dev/MAKEDEV.

> [1] The MAKEDEV man page specifies groups of 16.  Odd.  Not updated
> perhaps.  docs/9879.

Right.  If we can't get rid of MAKEDEV, the man page needs adding
about 10 times its current volume.

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How would I block this in the firewall

Netblock: 206.40.64.0 - 206.40.95.0

What would the rule look like ?

$fwcmd add deny all from ? to any

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Hello.

I'm interested in upgrade my processor and motherboard combination. The
hardware where I interested in are a Super7 MB with an AMD K6-2 Processor
and a good AGP Grafik-Card. (I currently using the 3.0-RELEASE with
XFree3.3.2)

Has someone this kind of processor running (with good expirience) and which
Grafik-Adaptor would you recommend (I've heard that there are some problems
with some Super7 Boards and some AGP-Cards in combination...).

Thanks in advance for any answer.
Joachim.



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Hi,

I have FreeBSD 3.0-19990201-STABLE #0: Mon Feb  1 10:52:02 GMT 1999

and when I tried

bash-2.02# cd netscape45-navigator/
bash-2.02# make install
===>  Installing for netscape-navigator-4.5
cd
/usr/ports/www/netscape45-navigator/work/navigator-v45.x86-unknown-freebsd
&& yes "" |  LC_TIME=C MOZILLA_HOME="/usr/local/lib/netscape" ./ns-install
./ns-install: not found
*** Error code 127

Stop.
*** Error code 1

Stop.
*** Error code 1

Stop.


Also:

bash-2.02# pwd
/usr/local/netscape-4.5
bash-2.02# ./netscape 
Couldn't open /usr/libexec/ld.so.


What is going on ?????

bye.





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> Has someone this kind of processor running (with good expirience) and which
> Grafik-Adaptor would you recommend (I've heard that there are some problems
> with some Super7 Boards and some AGP-Cards in combination...).

	I'm using Soltek U5 or U1 motherboards with ATI @Play 98s. I've 
run 233 to 350 K6s on them so far. The only problems I've had have been 
dual booting with Windows and the funky drivers located there, nothing 
that's affected FreeBSD though. :)


						Rick

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Hello,

>From the man page :

 This one disallows any connection from the entire hackers network to my
 host:
 
  ipfw addf deny all from 123.45.67.0/24 to my.host.org
 
I think you would need 206.40.64.0/15 (adjust the netmask)

	TfH



Brian wrote:
> 
> How would I block this in the firewall
> 
> Netblock: 206.40.64.0 - 206.40.95.0
> 
> What would the rule look like ?
> 
> $fwcmd add deny all from ? to any
> 
> Thanks
> -Brian
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>> Compiling the pdf version (# $Id: Makefile,v 1.11 1999/01/27 23:39:47
>> nik Exp $) of docbook handbook i get:
>
>Try running /usr/local/bin/mktexlsr, which update's one of TeX's
databases.
>The latest version of the JadeTeX port does that for you. You should
have
>version 1.2 of ports/print/jadetex/Makefile.


Thanks Nik... now i have a pdf version of docbook handbook :)

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On 1999-02-01 22:52:30 -0500, Spaceman wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I was wondering if you had a broken-up version of BSD, instead of just the entire thing in one file.  I'm looking to install it on a computer here and run it as an aberMUD server but don't have to money to buy the CD, or a connection that I trust is stable enough to do the network installation.  If you have it broken up in to 1.4 meg sections or any suggestions on what i should do, I would appriciate it if you would get back to me.

[cc: freebsd-questions]

Well, the distribution *is* splitted into 240KB sections.

$ ls -l | head
total 31099
-rw-rw-r--   1 ftpadm       6056 Oct 17 13:14 CHECKSUM.MD5
-rw-rw-r--   1 ftpadm     240640 Oct 17 13:06 bin.aa
-rw-rw-r--   1 ftpadm     240640 Oct 17 13:06 bin.ab
-rw-rw-r--   1 ftpadm     240640 Oct 17 13:06 bin.ac
-rw-rw-r--   1 ftpadm     240640 Oct 17 13:06 bin.ad
-rw-rw-r--   1 ftpadm     240640 Oct 17 13:06 bin.ae
-rw-rw-r--   1 ftpadm     240640 Oct 17 13:07 bin.af
-rw-rw-r--   1 ftpadm     240640 Oct 17 13:07 bin.ag
-rw-rw-r--   1 ftpadm     240640 Oct 17 13:07 bin.ah

> Thank you,
> Robert Fletcher
> spaceman@shadow-realm.net 

-- 
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I've been trying to setup a firewall.  I barely modified the simple
ruleset (just changed the IP addresses and interfaces).  I have a
few computers connected on an internal LAN.  The FreeBSD machine will
serve as a gateway.  I set up the oip to a bogus address since I don't
know how to set it up to a dynamically allocated address (if someone
could tell me how, I'd appreciate it :)

My problem, however, isn't the oif or oip (not for now at least).  I've
been trying to ping out to my LAN and get a permission denied.  I try
to ping in from the LAN and don't get a response.  I try connecting to
the named server from the LAN and don't get anything either.  Only
the FreeBSD machine has access to the web server, no others.  They
don't even really know the machine exists, except for the fact that
I set it as the primary name server on the NIC.  I'd also like to get
SAMBA to be useful (I've already set up the scripts, all I need is to
open up the connection to the LAN while keeping it closed to the world).
I' also like to use Exceed on the LAN (Win98 machines) therefore I need
to have X opened to the LAN and closed to the world.

Here are my firewall rules:

    oif="tun0"
    onet="222.168.0.0"
    omask="255.255.255.0"
    oip="222.168.0.11"
    iif="ep0"
    inet="192.168.0.0"
    imask="255.255.255.0"
    iip="192.168.0.11"

$fwcmd add deny all from ${inet}:${imask} to any in via ${oif}
$fwcmd add deny all from ${onet}:${omask} to any in via ${iif}
$fwcmd add deny all from 192.168.0.0:255.255.0.0 to any via ${oif}
$fwcmd add deny all from any to 192.168.0.0:255.255.0.0 via ${oif}
$fwcmd add deny all from 172.16.0.0:255.240.0.0 to any via ${oif}
$fwcmd add deny all from any to 172.16.0.0:255.240.0.0 via ${oif}
$fwcmd add deny all from 10.0.0.0:255.0.0.0 to any via ${oif}
$fwcmd add deny all from any to 10.0.0.0:255.0.0.0 via ${oif}
$fwcmd add pass tcp from any to any established        
$fwcmd add pass tcp from any to ${oip} 25 setup
$fwcmd add pass tcp from any to ${oip} 53 setup
$fwcmd add pass tcp from any to ${oip} 80 setup
$fwcmd add deny log tcp from any to any in via ${oif} setup
$fwcmd add pass tcp from any to any setup
$fwcmd add pass udp from any 53 to ${oip}
$fwcmd add pass udp from ${oip} to any 53
$fwcmd add pass udp from any 123 to ${oip}
$fwcmd add pass udp from ${oip} to any 123

I've tried to understand why my machine is still so closed, but nothing
seems to work (mind you it's also very late and my mind is mush, but
I should have at least understood why it's not open to simple tasks
with these rules).  I'm sure I need to add more rules, I just don't know
how to formulate them properly yet.

BTW, this is FreeBSD R 2.2.7 straight off of CD's, and I do have Greg's
book, and have looked through the pages on how to setup the firewall,
but no more than that and the man pages for docs on ipfw.

Thanks,

Manu

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I've only seen it on Solaris systems. Seems to be their answer to
having a place for optional packages. Of course, there's also a
/usr/opt as well.

I can't see much point in doing it. It'd have been nice if the
packages/ports collections had built to /usr/opt so that /usr/local
could be used for things that were local-local, instead of
freebsd-local, but it's a bit late for that.

	<mike


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Hi All.

I'm having a problem which is driving me bonkers.  I've just upgraded to
FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE (from 2.2.7) and to Netscape 4.5 (from 4.05).  I
had 'system now trashed' type problems doing this with cvsup, and
eventually had to use a boot disk from www.freebsd.org to do a complete
reinstallation.

Anyhow, now uname -a outputs the following:

FreeBSD cscall.swan.ac.uk 2.2.8-RELEASE FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE #0: Mon
Nov 30 06:34:08 GMT 1998    
jkh@time.cdrom.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC  i386

My problem is that all the icons in Netscape are being displayed in
black and white.  There seems to be something wrong with the X system. 
I've tried lots of permutations in the XFree86 configuration in
/stand/sysinstall, but to no avail.  I can get the X server to start up
ok, but it makes no difference to Netscape.  I don't know if I have to
reinstall it from the ports collection, or what.

Another program that I run, xspect, now crashes, with an error message:

Translation not implemented (bpp: 24; scrmul: 2)

This is probably very program specific, but the 'translation' bit makes
me think that this is also something to do with X.

My kdm desktop works fine.

I'm still pretty new to Unix, so I want to be careful that I don't trash
my system again.  Any helpful advice regarding this would be gratefully
appreciated.

TIA

G.

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Hi, everyone:
    There is something wrong with the "/" file system.
After removing a large file, I execute "df", but the result is
as same as before. I use "fsck", it's the same. I have to reboot
the system, the result become correct. The other file systems 
don't have such problem. What should I do?
    Any answer is apprieciated!

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G wrote:
> 
> Hi All.
> 
> I'm having a problem which is driving me bonkers.  I've just upgraded to
> FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE (from 2.2.7) and to Netscape 4.5 (from 4.05).  I
> had 'system now trashed' type problems doing this with cvsup, and
> eventually had to use a boot disk from www.freebsd.org to do a complete
> reinstallation.
> 
> Anyhow, now uname -a outputs the following:
> 
> FreeBSD cscall.swan.ac.uk 2.2.8-RELEASE FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE #0: Mon
> Nov 30 06:34:08 GMT 1998
> jkh@time.cdrom.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC  i386
> 
> My problem is that all the icons in Netscape are being displayed in
> black and white.  There seems to be something wrong with the X system.
> I've tried lots of permutations in the XFree86 configuration in
> /stand/sysinstall, but to no avail.  I can get the X server to start up
> ok, but it makes no difference to Netscape.  I don't know if I have to
> reinstall it from the ports collection, or what.
> 

What version of XFree86 are you running?. This problem was raised in
-questions a while ago and I'm pretty certain that you need XFree
3.3.3 to solve this (you could search the mailing lists). I'm running
2.2.8-R, XFree 3.3.3 and Communicator 4.5 and I have no problems.

HTH



> Another program that I run, xspect, now crashes, with an error message:
> 
> Translation not implemented (bpp: 24; scrmul: 2)
> 
> This is probably very program specific, but the 'translation' bit makes
> me think that this is also something to do with X.
> 
> My kdm desktop works fine.
> 
> I'm still pretty new to Unix, so I want to be careful that I don't trash
> my system again.  Any helpful advice regarding this would be gratefully
> appreciated.
> 
> TIA
> 
> G.
> 
> oh, btw: apologies if this message comes through as (gack) html or
> something - the mail client is still a little screwy as well.
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Hi, I'm trying to install FreeBSD 3.0-release for the first time(never tried
to install a unix OS before), when trying to install the computer gives me a
message along the lines of "unable to find files --bin, manpages--could have
selected incorrect media type." This files are on my hardrive [C-(In FAT32
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I have a Creative Labs PCI128 sound card, and was wondering whether
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Helo,

I included in my config file (which builds a working kernel) the following line
(as per ppi(4)):

device ppi0 at ppbus?

This is what I get from make:

ppi.o: Undefined symbol `_ppb_request_bus' referenced from text segment
ppi.o: Undefined symbol `_ppb_release_bus' referenced from text segment

uname -r gives 3.0-RELEASE

--adamo

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Greetings,

I have been trying to get IBCS2 running on 2.2.7 FreeBSD and have been
having problems with a SCO program called filePro.  I turned ibcs2 on
in the /etc/rc.conf and compiled the following into the kernel.
		options         SYSVSHM
		options         SYSVSEM
		options         SYSVMSG
		options         "SHMMAXPGS=4096"


I also setup the following

# ls -al /compat/ibcs2/dev

total 2
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel       512 Feb  1 09:04 .
drwxrwxrwx  5 root  wheel       512 Feb  1 09:00 ..
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel         9 Feb  1 09:03 XOR -> /dev/null
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel         9 Feb  1 09:04 nfsd -> /dev/null
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel         0 Feb  1 09:01 null
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel         9 Feb  1 09:03 socksys -> /dev/null
crw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   41,   1 Feb  1 09:04 spx


The shlib directory was pulled from a SCO rel 5 system and put into
/compat/ibcs2/shlib directory.

# ls -al /compat/ibcs2/shlib

total 325
drwxrwxrwx  2 root  wheel     512 Feb  1 08:21 .
drwxrwxrwx  5 root  wheel     512 Feb  1 09:00 ..
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel   67751 May 13  1997 libc_s
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel   35367 Dec  3  1997 libnsl_s
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel   29201 Dec  3  1997 libsc_s
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  186265 May 13  1997 protlib_s


The application is giving me an error saying there are too many users
in the application for the license.  I wrote the developers of the 
application and they had requested I send the following files:
	/usr/include/sys/ipc.h
	/usr/include/sys/shm.h
	/usr/include/sys/sem.h

The developers of filePro wrote back they believe there is problem with 
the shared memory calls.  FilePro does work on Linux running ibcs but
does not appear to work on FreeBSD.  Only two modules of filePro does not
work on FreeBSD.  Both modules enforce their user license limits and 
report there are too many users using the system at once for that license. 

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

thanks

Mark Comins

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Hello,

I'm afraid Netscape can't work on a 24-bit display (try running it with
a 16-bit deep display ad tell us if it's better.

	TfH

Mark Ovens wrote:
> 
> G wrote:
> >
> > Hi All.
> >
> > I'm having a problem which is driving me bonkers.  I've just upgraded to
> > FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE (from 2.2.7) and to Netscape 4.5 (from 4.05).  I
> > had 'system now trashed' type problems doing this with cvsup, and
> > eventually had to use a boot disk from www.freebsd.org to do a complete
> > reinstallation.
> >
> > Anyhow, now uname -a outputs the following:
> >
> > FreeBSD cscall.swan.ac.uk 2.2.8-RELEASE FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE #0: Mon
> > Nov 30 06:34:08 GMT 1998
> > jkh@time.cdrom.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC  i386
> >
> > My problem is that all the icons in Netscape are being displayed in
> > black and white.  There seems to be something wrong with the X system.
> > I've tried lots of permutations in the XFree86 configuration in
> > /stand/sysinstall, but to no avail.  I can get the X server to start up
> > ok, but it makes no difference to Netscape.  I don't know if I have to
> > reinstall it from the ports collection, or what.
> >
> 
> What version of XFree86 are you running?. This problem was raised in
> -questions a while ago and I'm pretty certain that you need XFree
> 3.3.3 to solve this (you could search the mailing lists). I'm running
> 2.2.8-R, XFree 3.3.3 and Communicator 4.5 and I have no problems.
> 
> HTH
> 
> > Another program that I run, xspect, now crashes, with an error message:
> >
> > Translation not implemented (bpp: 24; scrmul: 2)
> >
> > This is probably very program specific, but the 'translation' bit makes
> > me think that this is also something to do with X.
> >
> > My kdm desktop works fine.
> >
> > I'm still pretty new to Unix, so I want to be careful that I don't trash
> > my system again.  Any helpful advice regarding this would be gratefully
> > appreciated.
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > G.
> >
> > oh, btw: apologies if this message comes through as (gack) html or
> > something - the mail client is still a little screwy as well.
> >
> > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org
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> CAD/CAM solutions for Sheetmetal Working Industry
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Hello,

from ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/3.0-RELEASE/ERRATA.TXT :

o DOS partition installs fail to find the installation bits.

Fix: Rename C:\FREEBSD to C:\3.0-RELEASE and retry the installation.
     The naming syntax was changed to make DOS more like the other
     types of installation media but the docs on DOS installation
     were not updated properly to reflect this.  The current sysinstall
     now accepts both locations, as it should have to begin with.

	TfH

Michael Berhanu wrote:
> 
> Hi, I'm trying to install FreeBSD 3.0-release for the first time(never tried
> to install a unix OS before), when trying to install the computer gives me a
> message along the lines of "unable to find files --bin, manpages--could have
> selected incorrect media type." This files are on my hardrive [C-(In FAT32
> format)]. I am trying to install FreeBSD on another partition. I have asked
> it several times to install from a dos partition and an existing file system
> and in both cases it fails. What could be the problem?
> 
> Thank you
>                    Michael
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I've been playing with some of the window managers available for
FreeBSD-2.2.8 and am leaning towards gwm for its flexibility and
the nice feature of being able to control everything with little
snippets of lisp.  However, I'm finding that it has a tendency
to freeze at times, leading to great frustration for users with
little experience of these things.

I'd be interested to hear from anybody who uses gwm and knows
what things should be avoided if it is to be reliable enough for
ordinary users.

I'm also interested in recommendations of other window managers
that work well under 2.2.8 -- but they must offer multiple
virtual screens in a fashion that is simple to navigate (which
is wmaker falls down badly) and they must be very configurable.

Thanks in advance for any useful pointers.

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HERBELOT Thierry wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I'm afraid Netscape can't work on a 24-bit display (try running it with
> a 16-bit deep display ad tell us if it's better.
> 

Hmm, my system runs at 24bpp and Communicator runs fine (in full
colour). Maybe it's X-server specific, mine is the Mach64 server. One
other thought. I've got the native FreeBSD Communicator, it's not just
the Linux version that's affected is it?


>         TfH
> 
> Mark Ovens wrote:
> >
> > G wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi All.
> > >
> > > I'm having a problem which is driving me bonkers.  I've just upgraded to
> > > FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE (from 2.2.7) and to Netscape 4.5 (from 4.05).  I
> > > had 'system now trashed' type problems doing this with cvsup, and
> > > eventually had to use a boot disk from www.freebsd.org to do a complete
> > > reinstallation.
> > >
> > > Anyhow, now uname -a outputs the following:
> > >
> > > FreeBSD cscall.swan.ac.uk 2.2.8-RELEASE FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE #0: Mon
> > > Nov 30 06:34:08 GMT 1998
> > > jkh@time.cdrom.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC  i386
> > >
> > > My problem is that all the icons in Netscape are being displayed in
> > > black and white.  There seems to be something wrong with the X system.
> > > I've tried lots of permutations in the XFree86 configuration in
> > > /stand/sysinstall, but to no avail.  I can get the X server to start up
> > > ok, but it makes no difference to Netscape.  I don't know if I have to
> > > reinstall it from the ports collection, or what.
> > >
> >
> > What version of XFree86 are you running?. This problem was raised in
> > -questions a while ago and I'm pretty certain that you need XFree
> > 3.3.3 to solve this (you could search the mailing lists). I'm running
> > 2.2.8-R, XFree 3.3.3 and Communicator 4.5 and I have no problems.
> >
> > HTH
> >
> > > Another program that I run, xspect, now crashes, with an error message:
> > >
> > > Translation not implemented (bpp: 24; scrmul: 2)
> > >
> > > This is probably very program specific, but the 'translation' bit makes
> > > me think that this is also something to do with X.
> > >
> > > My kdm desktop works fine.
> > >
> > > I'm still pretty new to Unix, so I want to be careful that I don't trash
> > > my system again.  Any helpful advice regarding this would be gratefully
> > > appreciated.
> > >
> > > TIA
> > >
> > > G.
> > >
> > > oh, btw: apologies if this message comes through as (gack) html or
> > > something - the mail client is still a little screwy as well.
> > >
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> > _______________________________________________________________
> > Mark Ovens, CNC Apps Engineer, Radan Computational Ltd. Bath UK
> > CAD/CAM solutions for Sheetmetal Working Industry
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> >
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Paul Dekker once stated:

=make sure /etc/host.conf contains 'bind' on a line by itself.  The file might look like:

There is.

=nslookup uses the nameservers listed in /etc/resolv.conf.  other applications use resources listed in /etc/host.conf.  if bind isn't in there they won't use the nameserver(s).

Besides, fetch has no problem with ftp URL(s). Other apps resolve fine too: rfinger,
ssh...

	-mi

=Hope this helps.

Nope :(

	-mi

=Mikhail Teterin (mi@kot.ne.mediaone.net) writes:
=> Hi!
=> 
=> The FETCH_CMD on my system is set to be
=> 
=> 	runsocks fetch -p
=> 
=> to work through the firewall, etc. This works just fine for ftp URLs,
=> but all of the http ones fail, claiming the host-name is unresolvable.
=> 
=> 	mi@rtfm:~ (1100) runsocks fetch -p http://www.yahoo.com/index.html
=> 	fetch: `www.yahoo.com': cannot resolve: Host name lookup failure
=> 	mi@rtfm:~ (1101) runsocks fetch http://www.yahoo.com/index.html
=> 	fetch: `www.yahoo.com': cannot resolve: Host name lookup failure
=> 
=> The socks5 daemon runs on 2.2.8-stable. The client machine is the 3.0-stable.
=> 
=> The immediate nslookup resolves the host just fine... Any ideas?  Thanks!
=> 
=> 	-mi
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On Tue, 2 Feb 1999, Greg Lehey wrote:

> On Monday,  1 February 1999 at 21:19:55 -0800, Castor Fu wrote:
> > On Tue, 2 Feb 1999, Greg Lehey wrote:
> >
> >> On Monday,  1 February 1999 at 20:19:59 -0800, Castor Fu wrote:
> >>> I have a system with an ATAPI IDE CD-ROM drive (Lucky Goldstar CRD-8322B),
> >>> and a SCSI hard disk off a Diamond Fireport 40 controller.
> >>>
> >>> When I try booting off a FreeBSD-2.2.8 installation CD, the kernel
> >>> doesn't detect the IDE CD-ROM unless I also hook up an IDE Disk.
> >>>
> >>> I've tried using the "Cable Select", "Master" and "Slave" settings
> >>> on the drive, and they all fail.  When using "Cable Select" or "Master" the IDE
> >>> controller is detected but the drive is not.  With the "Slave" setting,
> >>> the controller is not detected at all.
> >>>
> >>> Should FreeBSD-2.x be able to work with just one IDE device which is a
> >>> CD-ROM?
> >>
> >> It should be able to, but it's a weak area.  Is it possible that your
> >> CD-ROM should be jumpered for neither master nor slave when it's by
> >> itself?  Probably the easiest thing to do is to download the 3.0 boot
> >> disk; you don't need to install 3.0, but it'll tell you if it finds
> >> the CD-ROM or not.
> >
> > I assumed that the "Cable Select" position was equivalent to neither
> > master nor slave.  Booting with the FreeBSD-3.0-RELEASE boot floppy doesn't
> > detect the CD-ROM drive either.  Is the new Atapi-CD driver likely to
> > change things?
> 
> I believe the new driver is already there in 3.0-RELEASE.  This looks
> like bad news.
> 
> > Linux works just fine in this configuration.
> 
> That at least confirms that you have the jumpers set correctly.  I'll
> check who's supporting this stuff.
> 
> Greg
> --

I have this same configuration on a Toshiba Pentium Pro with a Adaptec
2940 onboard adapter.  I'm currently running 2.2.8 on four of these beasts
and never had a problem with installion.  

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On Tue, Feb 02, 1999 at 12:08:27PM +0000, G <G.S.J.Howell@swansea.ac.uk> wrote:

> I'm having a problem which is driving me bonkers.  I've just upgraded to
> FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE (from 2.2.7) and to Netscape 4.5 (from 4.05).  I
> 
> My problem is that all the icons in Netscape are being displayed in
> black and white.  There seems to be something wrong with the X system. 
> I've tried lots of permutations in the XFree86 configuration in
> /stand/sysinstall, but to no avail.  I can get the X server to start up
> ok, but it makes no difference to Netscape.  I don't know if I have to
> reinstall it from the ports collection, or what.

I can confirm. I'm running X version 3.3.3 and SVGA server. My card 
is Matrox G200 SD 8MB of memory. All the Netscape icons are displayed 
black'n'white when I run at 24bpp. No problems with different 
colordepths. Navigator 4.5 version is native FreeBSD.
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Hi

I tried to mount a drive over nfs from picoBSD (the network version)
using:

	mount_nfs remote_host:/exported_partition /mnt

and I get Portmap errors and the process hangs. Portmap is not on the
picoBSD disk - I tried to force it to use a certain port by specifying:

	mount_nfs -o port=2049 remote_host:/exported_partition /mnt

but I still get the same errors. Can anyone help?

Thanks 

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On Tue, Feb 02, 1999 at 11:00:51PM +1000, Greg Black <gjb@comkey.com.au> wrote:

> I'm also interested in recommendations of other window managers
> that work well under 2.2.8 -- but they must offer multiple
> virtual screens in a fashion that is simple to navigate (which
> is wmaker falls down badly) and they must be very configurable.

I'm using fvwm2 about two years. I like it, it's stable and very well 
configurable. It is worth of try for sure.
Look at http://www.plig.org/~xwinman/
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HERBELOT Thierry wrote:
> 
> I'm afraid Netscape can't work on a 24-bit display (try running it with
> a 16-bit deep display ad tell us if it's better.

oh, happy day.  :o)  I set it to 16-bit as you suggested and it works! 
As does my spectrum emulator.  Thanks very much, that is very much
appreciated.

FYI the graphics card was Matrox Millenium II with 4mb 220.

Thanks again

G.

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         Reply to:   Re: Need to Change IP Address
There is no file  /etc/rc.conf    I did a ls /etc and couldn't see one anywhere


Francis A. Vidal wrote:
>On 2 Feb 1999, Larry Orchier wrote:
>
>> I have just inherited a server that has been relocated from CA to NY
>> >> All that I need to do is to change the IP address of the machine,
>> gateway, and name servers
>>
>> How can I do this?  I have been unable to find directions on any of
>> the webpages.
>
>hi larry,
>
>just edit the file `/etc/rc.conf' and look for the appropriate entries.
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Anyone know if it's possible to have a single filesystem on multiple 
drives or partitions... ie, only one inode structure.

If there has been any discussion about this topic in this mailing list 
or elsewhere, please give me a few keywords to search for. Or, even 
better, if there are any books addressing this topic, don't hesitate to 
give me a title or two.

Note: RAID only seems to be a means of backup which spans over multiple 
drives, but it doesn't seem to be able to support a single filesystem on 
multiple drives or partitions... correct me if I'm wrong.

Thanks,
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Replying to my own mail, I had to give up making 3.0-RELEASE run on this
machine. I installed Redhat 5.2 which runs flawlessly. Pity since I run
FreeBSD on all my other machines, stationaries and laptops.

On Sat, Jan 30, 1999 at 11:44:22AM +0100, Gunnar Flygt wrote:
> I have got my hands on one of those nice IBM Thinkpad 770ED. I installed
> 3.0-RELEASE on it yesterday, and everything seemed to be allright. But
> when I start the machine, the booting freezes after a little while. It's
> preceeded by the system speaker beeping three times. Then the machine is
> frozen. I then try to start it with the -c (visual) option. Up comes the
> visual config screen, and after a few seconds three beeps and the
> machine is unreachable. No contact with the keyboard or whatever.
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Greetings to all,

I'm sorry if this is posted to the wrong group, but I have 2
questions...

1. Has anybody installed the HP SureStore 4020i?
2. Is there a port for Real Audio Yet?

Thanks,

Tom

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On Tue, 2 Feb 1999, Wile Coyote wrote:

> Anyone know if it's possible to have a single filesystem on multiple 
> drives or partitions... ie, only one inode structure.

Does the ccd driver help you? If it does, try `man ccd' ...

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I'm trying to install FreeBSD on one of these machines for a friend.
It's a PCI and EISA machine that has a backplane with the cpu on a
card.  Also, it's got a built in adaptec 7870 scsi interface.

No matter what I do, the OS can't see the hard disk . . . well,
actually that's not quite right.  I tried installing 2.2.8 and it
installed after much grief.  After the installation though, it
would never boot up again (off the HD).  I've tried changing the
CMOS and EISA configurations till I'm blue in the face and still it
won't see the HD (in the boot sequence it dies when it tries to set
the root device).

I thought maybe I'd try 3.0 but it's the same.  I'm at a loss.  Every
installation since 1.1.5 has always been pretty much a 1, 2, 3, done
type of operation.  Until this box.  I've never dealt with EISA
so maybe that's the problem but really I think it's just hardware
that isn't gonna be usable for this.

On a related note, I've got a 3c905B in PCI slot one.  I set the cmos
and EISA to use interrupt 10 for that slot.  Neither 2.2.8 nor 3.0
can see the card (the one successful install was with a 3c509 that
had other problems so it was swapped).

Any suggestions (including throw the thing out the window :-) would
be appreciated.

Thanks

Andy

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Wile Coyote wrote:

> Note: RAID only seems to be a means of backup which spans over multiple
> drives, but it doesn't seem to be able to support a single filesystem on
> multiple drives or partitions... correct me if I'm wrong.

AFAIK (and this had better be the case, we're using enough of them!) - RAID /
CCD etc. will merge multiple 'physical' drives into a number of typically
larger 'logical' drives, the file systems are created on the Logical drives,
thus in our case 5 * 4.5Gb physical drives are merged into one 22.5Gb
'logical' drive, which is then created as one filesystem = 22Gb's of space
(spanning all 5 drives)...

If your into RAID have look at Vinum (it's part of 3.0-RELEASE onwards) (man
vinum)

Regards,

Karl

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Hello there,
                    I have built a RAID system with 2 Adaptec
AAA-131SA raid controllers.

Could you let me know which device driver to use for FreeBSD 3.0 or if
this device is not supported, can you point me in the right direction
to obtain one.

Rgds,
          Grant


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On Tue, Feb 02, 1999 at 04:26:45PM +1030, Greg Lehey wrote:
> On Monday,  1 February 1999 at 23:25:52 -0600, Glenn Johnson wrote:
> > I am getting a new ultra SCSI disk. I don't have it yet but it will be
> > something between 4 and 4.5 GB. I currently have a WDC AC21600H, 1549MB
> > drive. I will be making the SCSI disk my primary disk and was trying to
> > think of ways to use my existing IDE drive. What I was thinking was to
> > take 1549MB from the SCSI disk and make a Vinum striped volume with it
> > and the IDE drive. Does any one have a feel for what the performance of
> > that setup would be?
> 
> As long as you have only one drive per IDE controller, and if you can
> use DMA, performance should be acceptable.   It depends a lot on how
> you set up Vinum, of course.
> 
> Greg

Thanks.

I will have the IDE drive on the first channel of the controller with an
ATAPI CDROM drive on the other channel. I hope I have the terminology
right. So, the IDE hard drive will be wd0, and the CDROM will be
wd2. The hard drive is capable of DMA.

When you say performance should be acceptable, does that imply that
performance would be better if I didn't use a Vinum striped volume? I
was considering using the striped volume for /usr/obj and /usr/ports.
-- 
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Excuse me,
	I'd like to download Freebsd, and do an install using diskettes.  Is
there instructions on how to download the diskettes necessary to do an
install?  I've looked around and I can't find them.

					Thanks,
					 Ira Miller


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Hello.
I tryed to compile 3.0-STABLE
the compilers compiles all the source and when it says load kernel
trying probably to link all te .o fiels I got these errors

seems like he cannot find libraries to link...
what I ahve to do to get rid of this ??
thanks

Rick

loading kernel
syscons.o: In function `scvidprobe':
syscons.o(.text+0x231): undefined reference to `vid_configure'
syscons.o(.text+0x24e): undefined reference to `vid_allocate'
syscons.o(.text+0x26b): undefined reference to `vid_get_adapter'
syscons.o: In function `sckbdprobe':
syscons.o(.text+0x29a): undefined reference to `kbd_configure'
syscons.o(.text+0x2be): undefined reference to `kbd_allocate'
syscons.o(.text+0x2db): undefined reference to `kbd_get_keyboard'
syscons.o: In function `sc_attach_unit':
syscons.o(.text+0x3a2): undefined reference to `kbdsw'
syscons.o: In function `scopen':
syscons.o(.text+0x5c5): undefined reference to `kbdsw'
syscons.o: In function `sckbdevent':
syscons.o(.text+0x861): undefined reference to `kbd_release'
syscons.o(.text+0x91f): undefined reference to `kbdsw'
syscons.o: In function `scioctl':
syscons.o(.text+0x1e09): undefined reference to `kbdsw'
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syscons.o(.text+0x1eb6): undefined reference to `kbdsw'
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Riccardo Veraldi wrote:

> Hello.
> I tryed to compile 3.0-STABLE
> the compilers compiles all the source and when it says load kernel
> trying probably to link all te .o fiels I got these errors

read http://www.freebsd.org/~yokota/sc_update.txt ...
you have to update your kernel configuration file ...



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On 2 Feb 99, at 12:44, ira miller wrote:

> Excuse me,
> 	I'd like to download Freebsd, and do an install using diskettes.  Is
> there instructions on how to download the diskettes necessary to do an
> install?  I've looked around and I can't find them.

Yep.  Try the following URL:

http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/FAQ25.html#25

--
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What .jpg .gif etc viewers are avalible for fbsd and do I need SVGA libraries
or anything to enable it?

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Hello everybody.

I'm struggling for more than 3 hours to "catch" the problem. Please help if
you have any idea about what's happening.

I'm running this version:

FreeBSD site.my.net 2.2.7-RELEASE FreeBSD 2.2.7-RELEASE #0: Fri Oct  9
09:19:
29 EDT 1998     root@site.my.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/SITE  i386

I have this exports file:
(I intentionally used operating systems names and versions, instead of the
actual names of the clients, to give you a better idea.)

#/etc/exports file
/array/consulting/tara digital4.0
/array/site digital4.0
/array/site solaris2.5
/array/site hpux10.20
/array/site aix4.1
/array/togo -maproot=0  aix4.2
/array/projects/mydir

everything works fine up to the last line.
the following command fails on both solaris2.5 and hpux10.20:

mount -F nfs site:/array/projects/mydir /mnt

The message I get on the client is: "Permission denied"

Confusing enough, if I do the same on a Linux box:

mount -t nfs site:/array/projects/mydir /mnt

and the directory is mounted successfully.

Self mounting from site to site (through NFS) works to.

Nevertheless, site:/array/site is mounted just fine on both solaris2.5 and
hpux10.20

Can anybody explain to me what's wrong here?! Mountd -d (on site) doesn't
return any explanatory messages when I get permission denied on the client
machines.

Thanks much,
Horia Georgescu


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I am trying to install xmgr from the ports onto a fresh install of
2.2.8. However, I get the following,

# make
===>  Extracting for xmgr-4.1.1
>> Checksum OK for xmgr-4.1.1.tar.gz.
===>   xmgr-4.1.1 depends on file: /usr/X11R6/lib/libhlpclient.a - not found
===>    Verifying install for /usr/X11R6/lib/libhlpclient.a in /usr/ports/x11/libhelp
===>  libhelp-1.8.1 requires Motif.
===>   Returning to build of xmgr-4.1.1
===>   xmgr-4.1.1 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/libmfhdf.a - found
===>   xmgr-4.1.1 depends on shared library: Xbae.6 - not found
===>    Verifying install for Xbae.6 in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/xbae
===>  xbae-4.6.2 requires Motif.
===>   Returning to build of xmgr-4.1.1
Error: shared library "Xbae.6" does not exist
*** Error code 1

Stop.
*** Error code 1

Stop.
*** Error code 1

Stop.
*** Error code 1

Stop.
*** Error code 1

Stop.
*** Error code 1

Stop.
#

I find this quite odd since I have installed xmgr on other FreeBSD
systems without a hitch. As stated, the system I am trying to install
on has no /usr/X11R6/lib/libXbae* files, while the systems that have
not had trouble _do_ have some. None of the systems have Motif.

Where do I get these libraries? Why does this system not have it and
the others do? Is it due to the fact this one has a different video
card? Or because the new one is 2.2.8 and the others 2.2.7? But I could
not find the Xbae libraries on ftp.freebsd.org or my old 2.2.7 CDROMs.

In the end, I'd just like to get xmgr running on this system. Thanks
for any insight.
-- 
Crist J. Clark                           cjclark@home.com

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Here is an interesting problem!  I have a FreeBSD box running release 3.  It
is having a hard time keeping time.  It has a serious skew, but oddly enough
it is not on the slow side.  It seems to count about 2 seconds for every 1
actual second.  Does anyone have any ideas?  It would make sense to me if
the time was slow, but it is not.

Thanks for any help,
Jake

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Gunnar Flygt <gunnar@pluto.sr.se> writes:

> Replying to my own mail, I had to give up making 3.0-RELEASE run on this
> machine. I installed Redhat 5.2 which runs flawlessly. Pity since I run
> FreeBSD on all my other machines, stationaries and laptops.

I'm running 2.2.8 with no problems on a Thinkpad 560X.

I don't know what the differences are between your 700 and mine,
interms of chips. I'd try disabling anything you didn't absolutely
require to boot in the visual config thing so you can find what it
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Can anyone answer the following questions: Can Free bsd 

1) support multi-processing in the Pentium II domain?  If so, which
motherboard is best?

2) support RAID? If so , which system is the best and where can i get it??

3) support optical disk for reading/writing data?

4) support frame relay cards with drivers? If so, where can i get it?

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On Tue, 2 Feb 1999 caijj@trans.hk.hi.cn wrote:

> Hi, everyone:
>     There is something wrong with the "/" file system.
> After removing a large file, I execute "df", but the result is
> as same as before. I use "fsck", it's the same. I have to reboot
> the system, the result become correct. The other file systems 
> don't have such problem. What should I do?
>     Any answer is apprieciated!

Nothing is wrong. As long as some process holds that particular file
open, UNIX will not free the file up. If you killed the process using
the file, the space is returned to the filesystem.

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On my home network, I ran FreeBSD 2.2.7 and it ran great util yesterday I
noticed something very wrong...

While trying to send a message from another workstation (host: squid) to
main, the sendmail daemon complained: "We do not relay."

I there an easy way to fix this?

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Intermittently, I find that my ps2 mouse just stops responding.
I do the Ctrl-Alt-Bksp die-damn-you-die and restart X and everything is
fine again.  Needless to say, blowing away the plethora of windows I have
open does not leave me a happy camper.  Any ideas?

FreeBSD 2.2.2-Release, XFree86 3.3 (or at least xdpyinfo reports Vender
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Thanks...

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On Tue, 2 Feb 1999 mtcomins@aperion.com wrote:

[..]

> The developers of filePro wrote back they believe there is problem with 
> the shared memory calls.  FilePro does work on Linux running ibcs but
> does not appear to work on FreeBSD.  Only two modules of filePro does not
> work on FreeBSD.  Both modules enforce their user license limits and 
> report there are too many users using the system at once for that license. 
> 
> Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Did you link /usr/tmp to /var/tmp? This caught me out.

The shared-memory stuff appears to work fine with us. We've got
a SCO Informix's SQL-engine running fine (this uses SysV ipc stuff)

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Okay..  dead question.  I've since figured out what I was doing wrong.
Sound card works fine. everything works properly for me (with the exception
of MIDI, which for me, isn't a big loss) AND, I can't get the CD to play
music CD's.. 

Any help on that matter?

Solution to getting my ESS ES1869 installed:
-----
Add all the sound config lines from lint into my kernel config.
rebuild kernel and reboot.
check dmesg for detected devices.
remove the ones that weren't detected from the kernel config for next rebuild.
cd /dev ; sh MAKEDEV snd0
.
.
.
some testing, some tweaking of /dev locations, but it works normally now,
with the afforementioned CD Audio problem.
(cdplay just sits there, xcd, xcdplay, all give errors.) it's an IDE
cd-rom, as far as I can tell. (laptop, as listed below)

Any suggestions?


At 04:50 PM 2/1/99 -0500, you wrote:
>Has anyone had any luck configuring the ESS ES1869 Audio Drive sound card?
>I haven't been lucky to date in getting even a beep.  It's the last bit on
>my laptop (CTX 700EZ) that I cannot get functioning.  
>
>Any pointers to info, or info itself (i.e. which bits to compile into the
>kernel, how to De-pnp the thing) would be very much appreciated.
>
>-Ryan
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On your solaris box, how do you have the bsd box shared? ie: share -F nfs -o
rw=site /array/projects/mydir
or share -F nfs -o rw=site.my.net /array/projects/mydir? I have noticed solaris
is a bit funny about this and sometimes requires a full name to run..I have one
machine that requires the full name on one solaris box, and just the machine
name on another which is same os version (2.6), near identical install. 

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Horia Georgescu wrote:
> 
> Hello everybody.
> 
> I'm struggling for more than 3 hours to "catch" the problem. Please help if
> you have any idea about what's happening.
> 
> I'm running this version:
> 
> FreeBSD site.my.net 2.2.7-RELEASE FreeBSD 2.2.7-RELEASE #0: Fri Oct  9
> 09:19:
> 29 EDT 1998     root@site.my.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/SITE  i386
> 
> I have this exports file:
> (I intentionally used operating systems names and versions, instead of the
> actual names of the clients, to give you a better idea.)
> 
> #/etc/exports file
> /array/consulting/tara digital4.0
> /array/site digital4.0
> /array/site solaris2.5
> /array/site hpux10.20
> /array/site aix4.1
> /array/togo -maproot=0  aix4.2
> /array/projects/mydir
> 
> everything works fine up to the last line.
> the following command fails on both solaris2.5 and hpux10.20:
> 
> mount -F nfs site:/array/projects/mydir /mnt
> 
> The message I get on the client is: "Permission denied"
> 
> Confusing enough, if I do the same on a Linux box:
> 
> mount -t nfs site:/array/projects/mydir /mnt
> 
> and the directory is mounted successfully.
> 
> Self mounting from site to site (through NFS) works to.
> 
> Nevertheless, site:/array/site is mounted just fine on both solaris2.5 and
> hpux10.20
> 
> Can anybody explain to me what's wrong here?! Mountd -d (on site) doesn't
> return any explanatory messages when I get permission denied on the client
> machines.
> 
> Thanks much,
> Horia Georgescu
> 
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Hi folks,

I want to configure sendmail -- is there any doc to be found on
2.2-Stable (upgraded from 2.2.7-Release) on this subject?

Maybe this is a FAQ, but I could not locate it in the handbook nor in
FAQ. If there are additional pointers for my situation (dialup
configuration, ip changes between dialin session; one ppp e-mail
account at my provider, one user), I'm interested, too.

I'm aware the Handbook lists how to configure sendmail for a complete
domain. Anyhow, I got no domain, but a single host.

Thanks in advance
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> I'm aware the Handbook lists how to configure sendmail for a complete
> domain. Anyhow, I got no domain, but a single host.

	You might want to take a look at www.sendmail.org


					Rick

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> my name is cindy and i am about to start IT at UQ this year
> and i want learn unix but i have absolutely no idea what to
> do...  I have access to the www and i am using windows98 and i
> want to install freebsd.... i was wandering if you could help
> me install this programe by giving me an exact instruction of
> what to do coz i don't have a cd-rom version and i don't quite
> understand the floppy installation instructions...

If you're in Brisbane and would like a set of the CDROMs, email
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        Hi,

        Paragraph 8.8.19 in the FAQ (/usr/share/doc/FAQ/FAQ.html if
you installed the docs ) might be of help.

On Tue, Feb 02, 1999 at 09:39:59PM +0100, Christoph Sold wrote:
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> 
> I want to configure sendmail -- is there any doc to be found on
> 2.2-Stable (upgraded from 2.2.7-Release) on this subject?
> 
> Maybe this is a FAQ, but I could not locate it in the handbook nor in
> FAQ. If there are additional pointers for my situation (dialup
> configuration, ip changes between dialin session; one ppp e-mail
> account at my provider, one user), I'm interested, too.
> 
> I'm aware the Handbook lists how to configure sendmail for a complete
> domain. Anyhow, I got no domain, but a single host.
> 
> Thanks in advance
> -Christoph Sold
> P.S: Please cc:
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On Tuesday,  2 February 1999 at 11:48:15 -0600, Glenn Johnson wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 02, 1999 at 04:26:45PM +1030, Greg Lehey wrote:
>> On Monday,  1 February 1999 at 23:25:52 -0600, Glenn Johnson wrote:
>>> I am getting a new ultra SCSI disk. I don't have it yet but it will be
>>> something between 4 and 4.5 GB. I currently have a WDC AC21600H, 1549MB
>>> drive. I will be making the SCSI disk my primary disk and was trying to
>>> think of ways to use my existing IDE drive. What I was thinking was to
>>> take 1549MB from the SCSI disk and make a Vinum striped volume with it
>>> and the IDE drive. Does any one have a feel for what the performance of
>>> that setup would be?
>>
>> As long as you have only one drive per IDE controller, and if you can
>> use DMA, performance should be acceptable.   It depends a lot on how
>> you set up Vinum, of course.
>
> Thanks.
>
> I will have the IDE drive on the first channel of the controller with an
> ATAPI CDROM drive on the other channel. I hope I have the terminology
> right. So, the IDE hard drive will be wd0, and the CDROM will be
> wd2.

Those are separate controllers.  That's fine.

> The hard drive is capable of DMA.
>
> When you say performance should be acceptable, does that imply that
> performance would be better if I didn't use a Vinum striped volume? I
> was considering using the striped volume for /usr/obj and /usr/ports.

I'd expect the performance of a striped volume to be better than for a
non-striped volume *for multiple concurrent access*.  What you do on
/usr/obj and /usr/ports doesn't normally fit that model.  I wouldn't
expect much difference like in this case.

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back on 12:04 PM 2/2/99 -0800, you said:
>
>On my home network, I ran FreeBSD 2.2.7 and it ran great util yesterday I
>noticed something very wrong...
>
>While trying to send a message from another workstation (host: squid) to
>main, the sendmail daemon complained: "We do not relay."
>

Look for the lines in your sendmail.cf:

# file containing IP numbers of machines which can use our relay
F{LocalIP} /etc/mail/LocalIP

# file containing names of machines which can use our relay
F{LocalNames} /etc/mail/LocalNames

create/edit as needed.

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Hi,

I try to build Dial-UP server on FreeBSD.
Is there any FAQs on that subject ?

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Nevermind. Found the answer myself, going back to the documentation.
/array/site /array/projects/mydir solaris2.5
was the answer.
Thanks anyway.
Horia

-----Original Message-----
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Stephen, problem is this: the solaris box is the client of the FreeBSD
machine. Share is only usefull when the solaris becomes a NFS server itself.
And this solaris machine is able to import one filesystem and not the other.
Horia

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On your solaris box, how do you have the bsd box shared? ie: share -F nfs -o
rw=site /array/projects/mydir
or share -F nfs -o rw=site.my.net /array/projects/mydir? I have noticed
solaris
is a bit funny about this and sometimes requires a full name to run..I have
one
machine that requires the full name on one solaris box, and just the machine
name on another which is same os version (2.6), near identical install.

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Horia Georgescu wrote:
>
> Hello everybody.
>
> I'm struggling for more than 3 hours to "catch" the problem. Please help
if
> you have any idea about what's happening.
>
> I'm running this version:
>
> FreeBSD site.my.net 2.2.7-RELEASE FreeBSD 2.2.7-RELEASE #0: Fri Oct  9
> 09:19:
> 29 EDT 1998     root@site.my.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/SITE  i386
>
> I have this exports file:
> (I intentionally used operating systems names and versions, instead of the
> actual names of the clients, to give you a better idea.)
>
> #/etc/exports file
> /array/consulting/tara digital4.0
> /array/site digital4.0
> /array/site solaris2.5
> /array/site hpux10.20
> /array/site aix4.1
> /array/togo -maproot=0  aix4.2
> /array/projects/mydir
>
> everything works fine up to the last line.
> the following command fails on both solaris2.5 and hpux10.20:
>
> mount -F nfs site:/array/projects/mydir /mnt
>
> The message I get on the client is: "Permission denied"
>
> Confusing enough, if I do the same on a Linux box:
>
> mount -t nfs site:/array/projects/mydir /mnt
>
> and the directory is mounted successfully.
>
> Self mounting from site to site (through NFS) works to.
>
> Nevertheless, site:/array/site is mounted just fine on both solaris2.5 and
> hpux10.20
>
> Can anybody explain to me what's wrong here?! Mountd -d (on site) doesn't
> return any explanatory messages when I get permission denied on the client
> machines.
>
> Thanks much,
> Horia Georgescu
>
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For added performance on multi-user freebsd boxes, I was wondering if 
there's any way to load the inode structure in memory. Though I have to 
agree this is likely to be a significant memory hog, I'd like to know if 
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Hi,

   On a 3.0-980827-SNAP system:

   pdksh seems to have a problem with the following:

(cd $bindir && tar -cf - . ) | (cd $binwrk && pwd && tar -xvf -)

   the 2nd tar complains with:

+ tar -xvf -
tar: Hmm, this doesn't look like a tar archive.
tar: Skipping to next file header...


   If I remove the invokation of the 1st subshell, everything
works correctly(except that the current process has had it's
directory changed). ie:

cd $bindir && tar -cf - . | (cd $binwrk && pwd && tar -xvf -)


   I cannot seem to replicate this on a 4.0-current system.


   Comments? Critiques?

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On Tuesday,  2 February 1999 at  8:35:48 -0500, Tony Simaz wrote:
> On Tue, 2 Feb 1999, Greg Lehey wrote:
>
>> On Monday,  1 February 1999 at 21:19:55 -0800, Castor Fu wrote:
>>> On Tue, 2 Feb 1999, Greg Lehey wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Monday,  1 February 1999 at 20:19:59 -0800, Castor Fu wrote:
>>>>> I have a system with an ATAPI IDE CD-ROM drive (Lucky Goldstar CRD-8322B),
>>>>> and a SCSI hard disk off a Diamond Fireport 40 controller.
>>>>>
>>>>> When I try booting off a FreeBSD-2.2.8 installation CD, the kernel
>>>>> doesn't detect the IDE CD-ROM unless I also hook up an IDE Disk.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've tried using the "Cable Select", "Master" and "Slave" settings
>>>>> on the drive, and they all fail.  When using "Cable Select" or "Master" the IDE
>>>>> controller is detected but the drive is not.  With the "Slave" setting,
>>>>> the controller is not detected at all.
>>>>>
>>>>> Should FreeBSD-2.x be able to work with just one IDE device which is a
>>>>> CD-ROM?
>>>>
>>>> It should be able to, but it's a weak area.  Is it possible that your
>>>> CD-ROM should be jumpered for neither master nor slave when it's by
>>>> itself?  Probably the easiest thing to do is to download the 3.0 boot
>>>> disk; you don't need to install 3.0, but it'll tell you if it finds
>>>> the CD-ROM or not.
>>>
>>> I assumed that the "Cable Select" position was equivalent to neither
>>> master nor slave.  Booting with the FreeBSD-3.0-RELEASE boot floppy doesn't
>>> detect the CD-ROM drive either.  Is the new Atapi-CD driver likely to
>>> change things?
>>
>> I believe the new driver is already there in 3.0-RELEASE.  This looks
>> like bad news.
>>
>>> Linux works just fine in this configuration.
>>
>> That at least confirms that you have the jumpers set correctly.  I'll
>> check who's supporting this stuff.
>
> I have this same configuration on a Toshiba Pentium Pro with a Adaptec
> 2940 onboard adapter.  I'm currently running 2.2.8 on four of these beasts
> and never had a problem with installion.

How close is the configuration?  Are you also using a Lucky Goldstar
CRD-8322B on its own on the controller?

Greg
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I'm sorry. I figured it out. From /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/GATEWAY

>config GATEWAY root on wd0

uh...duh!

Some people!

Thanks.

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To be more specific:

When I say that "make" completes w/o errors, I mean that the last message I
receive from it is:

loading GATEWAY
rearranging symbols
text        data      bss       dec        hex
782336  53248   70028   905612  dd18c
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Hello, I have recently loaded freebsd 2.2.7 from CD, and I need to build a
custom kernel in order to set it up as a gateway..yada yada.. 

Instructions seem clear, but I am having problems.

After setting up my conf file (GATEWAY, included below), I run:

#/usr/bin/config GATEWAY
    (completes w/o errors)
#cd ../../compile/GATEWAY
#make depend
    (completes w/o errors)
#make
    (completes w/o errors)
#make install
You must first build your kernel before trying to install.
*** Error code 1

Stop.

#

I'm guessing it's a user headspace error, but I'm at a loss. Any suggestions?

______________________________________________________

Okay, so eyeball verification indicates that, indeed, there's no "kernel" in the
directory.

Problem with my config file? I think it must be.  Here it is in all it's glory.

# BASICS

machine "i386"
cpu "I486_CPU"
ident GATEWAY
maxusers 10
config GATEWAY root on wd0

# NECESSITIES

options "COMPAT_43"
options UCONSOLE
options SYSVSHM
options SYSVSEM
options SYSVMSG
options FFS
options NFS
options PROCFS
controller isa0
controller wdc0 at isa? port "IO_WD1" bio irq 14 vector wdintr
disk wd0 at wdc0 drive 0
options "PCVT_FREEBSD=210"
device npx0 at isa? port "IO_NPX" irq 13 vector npxintr
device vt0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" tty irq1 vector pcrint
options KTRACE
options USERCONFIG
options VISUAL_USERCONFIG

# ETHERCARDS

device ed0 at isa? port 0x280 net irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 vector edintr
device ed1 at isa? port 0x240 net irq 12 iomem 0xd8000 vector edintr

# CONFIG OPTIONS

options INET
pseudo-device loop
pseudo-device ether
pseudo-device bpfilter 4
pseudo-device gzip
pseudo-device log
pseudo-device pty 16

# GATEWAY CODE

options IPFIREWALL
options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE
options "IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=100"
options IPDIVERT


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Emmanuel Gravel wrote:

> I've been trying to setup a firewall.  I barely modified the simple
> ruleset (just changed the IP addresses and interfaces).  I have a
> few computers connected on an internal LAN.  The FreeBSD machine will
> serve as a gateway.  I set up the oip to a bogus address since I don't
> know how to set it up to a dynamically allocated address (if someone
> could tell me how, I'd appreciate it :)
>
> My problem, however, isn't the oif or oip (not for now at least).  I've
> been trying to ping out to my LAN and get a permission denied.  I try
> to ping in from the LAN and don't get a response.  I try connecting to
> the named server from the LAN and don't get anything either.  Only
> the FreeBSD machine has access to the web server, no others.  They
> don't even really know the machine exists, except for the fact that
> I set it as the primary name server on the NIC.  I'd also like to get
> SAMBA to be useful (I've already set up the scripts, all I need is to
> open up the connection to the LAN while keeping it closed to the world).
> I' also like to use Exceed on the LAN (Win98 machines) therefore I need
> to have X opened to the LAN and closed to the world.
>
> Here are my firewall rules:
>
>     oif="tun0"
>     onet="222.168.0.0"
>     omask="255.255.255.0"
>     oip="222.168.0.11"
>     iif="ep0"
>     inet="192.168.0.0"
>     imask="255.255.255.0"
>     iip="192.168.0.11"
>
> $fwcmd add deny all from ${inet}:${imask} to any in via ${oif}
> $fwcmd add deny all from ${onet}:${omask} to any in via ${iif}
> $fwcmd add deny all from 192.168.0.0:255.255.0.0 to any via ${oif}
> $fwcmd add deny all from any to 192.168.0.0:255.255.0.0 via ${oif}
> $fwcmd add deny all from 172.16.0.0:255.240.0.0 to any via ${oif}
> $fwcmd add deny all from any to 172.16.0.0:255.240.0.0 via ${oif}
> $fwcmd add deny all from 10.0.0.0:255.0.0.0 to any via ${oif}
> $fwcmd add deny all from any to 10.0.0.0:255.0.0.0 via ${oif}
> $fwcmd add pass tcp from any to any established
> $fwcmd add pass tcp from any to ${oip} 25 setup
> $fwcmd add pass tcp from any to ${oip} 53 setup
> $fwcmd add pass tcp from any to ${oip} 80 setup
> $fwcmd add deny log tcp from any to any in via ${oif} setup
> $fwcmd add pass tcp from any to any setup
> $fwcmd add pass udp from any 53 to ${oip}
> $fwcmd add pass udp from ${oip} to any 53
> $fwcmd add pass udp from any 123 to ${oip}
> $fwcmd add pass udp from ${oip} to any 123
>
> I've tried to understand why my machine is still so closed, but nothing
> seems to work (mind you it's also very late and my mind is mush, but
> I should have at least understood why it's not open to simple tasks
> with these rules).  I'm sure I need to add more rules, I just don't know
> how to formulate them properly yet.
>
> BTW, this is FreeBSD R 2.2.7 straight off of CD's, and I do have Greg's
> book, and have looked through the pages on how to setup the firewall,
> but no more than that and the man pages for docs on ipfw.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Manu
>
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This is not an answer per se but it can prove useful - add another rule just
before the final (default) one that throws everything away to log those
packets, thus:

$fwcmd add 65500 deny log all from any to any

Then when you ttry and ping you'll see log entries on the console indicating
exactly _what_ is about to be thrown away by the default rule.  If you still
don't see anything when using ping, for example, then the packets are being
dropped by rules previous to that one - try enabling logging on those too.
You will prob want to set the log limit to something before trying this,
else the console will be rather busy scrolling....see the examples in
/etc/rc.firewall.

HTH

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>          Reply to:   Re: Need to Change IP Address
> There is no file  /etc/rc.conf    I did a ls /etc and couldn't see one anywhere

What release is on the box? Earlier versions used /etc/sysconfig.

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someone that confused could only benefit from aquiring "The Complete
FreeBSD"
by Greg Lehey (ISBN 1 - 57176 - 227- 2) with cd-rom included!!!
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> Date: Wednesday, 03 February 1999 12:37 AM
> 
> > my name is cindy and i am about to start IT at UQ this year
> > and i want learn unix but i have absolutely no idea what to
> > do...  I have access to the www and i am using windows98 and i
> > want to install freebsd.... i was wandering if you could help
> > me install this programe by giving me an exact instruction of
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Hello,

sd0 is giving me problems and I cannot seem to trace where the root
of them is.  The system will load the kernel (2.2.5), but when it
goes to mount the slices, it hangs then times out.

The kernel reports back:

bt0: not taking commands!
Debugger ("bt742a") called.
bt0: Abort Operation has timed out.

The is the only drive in the system and the same thing happens when
it is accessed wehn booted from another boot device.

It would appear the data (some) is still good.  Any pointers
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On Wed, 3 Feb 1999, Greg Lehey wrote:

> On Tuesday,  2 February 1999 at  8:35:48 -0500, Tony Simaz wrote:
> > On Tue, 2 Feb 1999, Greg Lehey wrote:
> >
> > I have this same configuration on a Toshiba Pentium Pro with a Adaptec
> > 2940 onboard adapter.  I'm currently running 2.2.8 on four of these beasts
> > and never had a problem with installion.
> 
> How close is the configuration?  Are you also using a Lucky Goldstar
> CRD-8322B on its own on the controller?
> 
> Greg
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It's a Toshiba XM-5702B CD-ROM drive.  It's the master on the secondary
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On Tuesday,  2 February 1999 at  8:22:02 -0800, Wile Coyote wrote:
> Anyone know if it's possible to have a single filesystem on multiple
> drives or partitions... ie, only one inode structure.
>
> If there has been any discussion about this topic in this mailing list
> or elsewhere, please give me a few keywords to search for. Or, even
> better, if there are any books addressing this topic, don't hesitate to
> give me a title or two.

As others have said, vinum (or ccd, for legacy applications) does
this.  Apart from the man page, see http://www.lemis.com/vinum.html.

> Note: RAID only seems to be a means of backup which spans over multiple
> drives, but it doesn't seem to be able to support a single filesystem on
> multiple drives or partitions... correct me if I'm wrong.

You're wrong :-) RAID also spreads file systems over multiple disks.

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On Wednesday,  3 February 1999 at  8:24:51 +1030, Greg Lehey wrote:
> On Tuesday,  2 February 1999 at  8:35:48 -0500, Tony Simaz wrote:
>> On Tue, 2 Feb 1999, Greg Lehey wrote:
>>
>>> On Monday,  1 February 1999 at 21:19:55 -0800, Castor Fu wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 2 Feb 1999, Greg Lehey wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Monday,  1 February 1999 at 20:19:59 -0800, Castor Fu wrote:
>>>>>> I have a system with an ATAPI IDE CD-ROM drive (Lucky Goldstar CRD-8322B),
>>>>>> and a SCSI hard disk off a Diamond Fireport 40 controller.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When I try booting off a FreeBSD-2.2.8 installation CD, the kernel
>>>>>> doesn't detect the IDE CD-ROM unless I also hook up an IDE Disk.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've tried using the "Cable Select", "Master" and "Slave" settings
>>>>>> on the drive, and they all fail.  When using "Cable Select" or "Master" the IDE
>>>>>> controller is detected but the drive is not.  With the "Slave" setting,
>>>>>> the controller is not detected at all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Should FreeBSD-2.x be able to work with just one IDE device which is a
>>>>>> CD-ROM?
>>>>>
>>>>> It should be able to, but it's a weak area.  Is it possible that your
>>>>> CD-ROM should be jumpered for neither master nor slave when it's by
>>>>> itself?  Probably the easiest thing to do is to download the 3.0 boot
>>>>> disk; you don't need to install 3.0, but it'll tell you if it finds
>>>>> the CD-ROM or not.
>>>>
>>>> I assumed that the "Cable Select" position was equivalent to neither
>>>> master nor slave.  Booting with the FreeBSD-3.0-RELEASE boot floppy doesn't
>>>> detect the CD-ROM drive either.  Is the new Atapi-CD driver likely to
>>>> change things?
>>>
>>> I believe the new driver is already there in 3.0-RELEASE.  This looks
>>> like bad news.
>>>
>>>> Linux works just fine in this configuration.
>>>
>>> That at least confirms that you have the jumpers set correctly.  I'll
>>> check who's supporting this stuff.
>>
>> I have this same configuration on a Toshiba Pentium Pro with a Adaptec
>> 2940 onboard adapter.  I'm currently running 2.2.8 on four of these beasts
>> and never had a problem with installion.
>
> How close is the configuration?  Are you also using a Lucky Goldstar
> CRD-8322B on its own on the controller?

On Tuesday,  2 February 1999 at 18:11:52 -0500, Tony Simaz wrote:
> It's a Toshiba XM-5702B CD-ROM drive.  It's the master on the secondary
> controller.  FreeBSD finds it as an atapi device on wcd1.  N

The issue here is the CD-ROM drive.

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On  2 Feb, Christoph Sold wrote:
> Hi folks,
> 
> I want to configure sendmail -- is there any doc to be found on
> 2.2-Stable (upgraded from 2.2.7-Release) on this subject?
> 
> Maybe this is a FAQ, but I could not locate it in the handbook nor in
> FAQ. If there are additional pointers for my situation (dialup
> configuration, ip changes between dialin session; one ppp e-mail
> account at my provider, one user), I'm interested, too.


http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/FAQ134.html


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On Tuesday,  2 February 1999 at 17:33:25 -0000, Grant Beckerleg wrote:
> Hello there,
>                     I have built a RAID system with 2 Adaptec
> AAA-131SA raid controllers.

That's a pity.  It's not supported.

> Could you let me know which device driver to use for FreeBSD 3.0 or if
> this device is not supported, can you point me in the right direction
> to obtain one.

You have the choice of writing a driver yourself, paying somebody to
write a driver for you, waiting until somebody decides to write a
driver, or changing your hardware.  If you want to write the driver
yourself or to pay to have a driver developed, discuss the matter on
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On Tuesday,  2 February 1999 at 14:22:12 -0500, pgervais wrote:
> Can anyone answer the following questions: Can Free bsd
>
> 1) support multi-processing in the Pentium II domain? 

Yes.

> If so, which motherboard is best?

Lots of people like ASUS.  I don't have any personal recommendation.

> 2) support RAID? 

Yes.

> If so , which system is the best and where can i get it??

Hardware RAID: DPT SmartRAID III and SmartRAID IV.  Software: Vinum or
ccd.  All software comes with the system.  

> 3) support optical disk for reading/writing data?

Yes.

> 4) support frame relay cards with drivers? If so, where can i get it?

I'm not sure about this one.

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On Wednesday,  3 February 1999 at  9:36:25 +1000, Richard Archer wrote:
> At 9:17 +1000 3/2/1999, Greg Lehey wrote:
>
>>> Is there somewhere a list of FreeBSD 3.0 supported RAID controllers ?
>>
>>  DPT SmartRAID III
>>  DPT SmartRAID IV
>>
>> Big, isn't it?

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> What about the new DPT SmartRAID V?

Not yet.  Work is in progress, but we don't have even a tentative
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On Mon, 1 Feb 1999, John Lind wrote:
> Dan Busarow writes:
> > On Fri, 29 Jan 1999, John Lind wrote:
> > > We have two subnets routed to a Cisco 675 (aDSL).  The 657 is
> > > 137.192.130.30.  The FreeBSD box is 137.192.130.29 on that net,
> > > and the other NIC is 137.192.130.22 on the internal or "protected"
> > > net.  The netmask on both nets is 255.255.255.248.
> > > 
> > > The system we are most trying to protect on the internal net is a
> > > UnixWare system (good grief, I hope that they aren't doing something
> > > weird with TCP that's causing all this!), which is at IP 137.192.130.20.
> > > When I use the "open" ruleset, I have full access to that system
> > > (and so does every one else).  Just for reference, that's
> > > 
> > > 00100 allow ip from any to any via lo0
> > > 00200 deny ip from any to 127.0.0.0/8
> > > 65000 allow ip from any to any
> > > 65535 deny ip from any to any 
> > > 
> > > Since I have full access from anywhere on the Internet to the internal
> > > systems with this ruleset, I know that IP forwarding is working.
> > > 
> > > When I try to do any filtering at all, I loose all access to the UnixWare
> > > system.  The ultimate goal is to have Web access to that system, but
> > > to restrict access for everything else to a few selected IP's.  The
> > > following ruleset isn't nearly that complicated -- I've stripped it
> > > 'way down -- my understanding is that this SHOULD allow Web access
> > > to this system, and nothing else, but instead, I get nothing at all.
> > > I have a test script that installs this, and then if I don't break out
> > > of it, it installs the "open" set again, and as soon as "open" gets
> > > reinstalled, the web accesses that were hanging all proceed.
> > > 
> > > 00100 allow ip from any to any via lo0
> > > 00200 deny ip from any to 127.0.0.0/8
> > > 01000 allow tcp from any to any established
> > > 01200 allow tcp from any to 137.192.130.20 80 setup
> > > 01300 allow tcp from 137.192.130.16/29 to any setup
> > 
> > Try changing the /29 to /28
> > You aren't letting setup out via 137.192.130.29 and so he can't forward
> > the packets.
> 
> OK -- I have to retract part of what I said, but the overall sense of
> things is the same.  The reason I couldn't get into the system was
> not changing the subnet mask to /28 PER SE, but rather that I fat-fingered
> and got a syntax error in rc.firewall in the process.
> 
> The essential facts remain the same, however, which is that neither
> changing the subnet mask to /28 nor putting in a specific rule to
> pass all setup from 137.192.130.29 made any difference at all.
> 
> Help???

Try this.  Rebgoot the system to clear any ipfw counters.
Try making the outbound connection and then run

# ipfw show

That should show you which rule is causing the problem.

Send the output of ipfw show and netstat -rn

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I'd expect there really isn't much of a win from doing this. The disk
buffer system should cache the really crucial inode blocks for
you. It's been a while since I've been inside a BSD I/O system,
though, so you probably want to double check this on -hackers.

If you really feel that's not good enough, I once added a cron job
that every so often just read in the directory structure for the
crucial directories. This caused them to be refreshed in the cache,
and thus kept in memory.

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> there's any way to load the inode structure in memory. Though I have to 
> agree this is likely to be a significant memory hog, I'd like to know if 
> there's any way to accomplish this.
> 
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> reasons to backup your claim.
> 
> Thanks... again,
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Please help...
I would like to install freebsd onto a dedicated machine (which doesn't
have a cdrom) over my home peer to peer network. I have two windows95
machines connected through a hub. How do I get the freebsd machine to
install from the freebsd cdrom in the windows95 machine.

thanks in advance.
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Have there been any new drivers written for the 3c905 (and/or 3c905b)
cards from 3com since 3.0-RELEASE was released?  I've been doing some
tests, and using exactly the same NIC in a Linux box, I get 4.8
megs/second (roughly), and by placing the same card in a FreeBSD box,
I'm getting only 1.3.  (using the xl0 driver).  I've tried several
combinations of the 905's, including boomerangs (3c905, a and b
revisions) and cyclones (3c905b, a b and c revisions), all with the same
end result (aside that some combinations don't auto-neg with each other
well).

I'm thinking of just going with an Intel card and scrapping 3com
altogether, especially since only the old 3c905's auto-neg properly with
our Cisco switch here in the office.  

Before I grab an Intel card, are they stable, and more importantly, can
I get more than 1.3 megs per second out of them? ;)

TIA,

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Vallo Kallaste wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Feb 02, 1999 at 11:00:51PM +1000, Greg Black <gjb@comkey.com.au> wrote:
> 
> > I'm also interested in recommendations of other window managers
> > that work well under 2.2.8 -- but they must offer multiple
> > virtual screens in a fashion that is simple to navigate (which
> > is wmaker falls down badly) and they must be very configurable.
> 
> I'm using fvwm2 about two years. I like it, it's stable and very well
> configurable. It is worth of try for sure.
> Look at http://www.plig.org/~xwinman/
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Try blackbox.
Fast, small, robust, perfect for a UNIX workstation, perfect for me.
Really.
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Hey folks,

Anybody know if anybody is working on lm78/lm75/etc. support for FreeBSD?
I know support exists for Linux (see http://www.netroedge.com/~lm78 ).  If
nobody is working on it i'll hack it in myself, but i dont want to
re-invent the wheel, so to speak.

If you could pass on status/URL's, etc. it would be most appreciated.

Thanks much,

-d
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Hello,

I have recently had to transfer all of our home users's directories to
another machine due to some restructuring in our sysytem methodology. 
Here's how I did it; I'll try to be as (superflously) detailed as
possible, so please bare with me :)

First, the partition information for both FreeBSD 2.2.6 machines
(mach1 and mach2) - we basically setup four partitions, each mounted
on /, /usr, /var and of course the last is for swap.

On the older machine (mach1), I did these NFS commands:

mount -t nfs mach2:/ /mnt/mach1/
mount -t nfs mach2:/usr /mnt/mach1/usr/
mount -t nfs mach2:/var /mnt/mach1/var/

I then did these cpio commands:

cd /usr
find . -print | cpio --verbose -p --make-directories
--preserve-modification-time --unconditional /mnt/mach1/usr
cd /var
find . -print | cpio --verbose -p --make-directories
--preserve-modification-time --unconditional /mnt/mach1/var

The file transfer went well (I haven't noticed any file corruption),
so I proceeded with bringing over the necessary /etc/ files - passwd,
group, and master.passwd.  We use stock login.access and login.conf
configurations, so we left these alone.

Once these were copied over, I ran vipw and made a small change to a
user's realname and saved and exited (to rebuild the pw database). 
Much later during this ordeal, I ended up deleting the /etc/*pwd.db
files and ran pwd_mkdb.

Now the problem :)

If I login as a normal user, I get this error:

shell-init: could not get current directory: getcwd: cannot access
parent directories
job-working-directory: could not get current directory: getcwd: cannot
access parent directories
[user@mach2 .]$ 

Doing an ls:

[user@mach2 .]$ ls
..lots of files listed correctly..

Doing a pwd:

[user@mach2 .]$ pwd 
pwd: could not get current directory: getcwd: cannot access parent
directories

Finally, a cd (and another ls and pwd):

[user@mach2 .]$ cd
cd_links: could not get current directory: getcwd: cannot access
parent directories
[user@mach2 ~]$ ls
..lots of files listed correctly..
[user@mach2 ~] pwd
/usr/www/user

Note the change from '.' to '~' in the cwd field of the prompt.

user's home directory is /usr/www/user, so this shouldn't be related
to the /home -> /usr/home symlink.  The directory permissions up to
this directory are 755, owned by root and group owned by wheel.  The
relevant /etc files are 644/00 (passwd|group/master.passwd).

Other symptoms:

I temporarily changed user's home directory to point to other
directories under /usr, only to get the same error.  I then changed
user's home directory to some locations in / and /var.. and guess
what?  The user can login normally without the error!  This leads me
to believe that maybe the /usr partition is not being mounted
properly, so here's my /etc/fstab:

bash-2.01# cat /etc/fstab
# Device Mountpoint FStype Options Dump Pass#
/dev/sd0s1b none    swap   sw      0       0
/dev/sd0s1a /       ufs    rw      1       1
/dev/sd0s1f /usr    ufs    rw      2       2
/dev/sd0s1e /var    ufs    rw      2       2
proc        /proc   procfs rw      0       0

..which of course looks normal.

*phew* I think that's it.  A simple 'cd' seems to fix it, but
unfortunateley this does not work for CGIs that the webserver depends
on - they end up failing.  Many thanks to anyone who can figure out
what might be going wrong :)

Take care
Anthony
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Tomorow, I will install freebsd on a IBM aptiva, who's something like a:
486-DX (it's writed on the box 466-DX, huh?), 24 meg of ram, etc.. for
the school.
But there is a 3com etherlink 3c905b in it. If disable the PnP option,
it should work OK, right? Cause those peoples are scared about me (I'm
deleting the windows95 partition...) and don't understand how I can
install an OS via network. 
I will be doing an install via boot.flp/ethernet. That should work to?
Really, they are afraid about Unix. The network is NT(server)/win95/Mac
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On Tuesday,  2 February 1999 at 20:37:08 -0500, Malartre wrote:
> Tomorow, I will install freebsd on a IBM aptiva, who's something like a:
> 486-DX (it's writed on the box 466-DX, huh?),

The 66 is probably the processor speed.

> 24 meg of ram, etc.. for the school.
> But there is a 3com etherlink 3c905b in it. If disable the PnP option,
> it should work OK, right?

Should be OK.

> Cause those peoples are scared about me (I'm deleting the windows95
> partition...)

They know you're going to do this?

> and don't understand how I can install an OS via network.  I will be
> doing an install via boot.flp/ethernet. That should work to?

Should do.

> Really, they are afraid about Unix. The network is
> NT(server)/win95/Mac G3.

Good luck!

Greg
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I have just finished compiling mtools from the ports, on a 3.0 Stable
system.

When I do a mdir a: I get

plain_io: Input/output error
init A: could not read boot sector
Cannot initialize 'A:'

and in my /var/log/messages I have this...

Feb  2 17:36:07 freebsd /kernel: fd0: recal failed ST0
70<abnrml,seek_cmplt,equ$
Feb  2 17:36:08 freebsd last message repeated 3 times
Feb  2 17:36:08 freebsd /kernel: fd0c: hard error reading fsbn 0 (No
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Any ideas for me??

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Hi,

Could anyone tell me the major difference between Lite and Lite-2 in terms of
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I am especially curious about the Mbuf: in Wright & Steven's TCP/IP Illustration
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Any other major tcp/ip code improvement in Lite-2 or FreeBSD Rel 3.0?

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> I would like to install freebsd onto a dedicated machine (which doesn't
> have a cdrom) over my home peer to peer network. I have two windows95
> machines connected through a hub. How do I get the freebsd machine to
> install from the freebsd cdrom in the windows95 machine.

	Well, I think you'll it'll be easiest for you to install the 
CDROM in to the FreeBSD machine. Other wise you're going to have to find 
and install a third party FTP server software for Win95 (If such a thing 
exists,) and see if Win95 will be smart enough to figure out that it's 
supposed to be sending files. :)

						Rick

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Sorry to rick for the misdirection, I wasn't paying attention to who
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you can get a fairly comprehensive, though sometimes cryptic and not always
perfect, FTP server called WAR FTP Daemon  from www.tucows.com.  It should do
the trick for a temporary server, but I don't suggest using it as a server
regularly.  Tucows has about a million mirrors, but here's a link to one of
the places to download it.  http://tucows.direclynx.net/adnload/dlwarftp.html

rick hamell wrote:

> > I would like to install freebsd onto a dedicated machine (which doesn't
> > have a cdrom) over my home peer to peer network. I have two windows95
> > machines connected through a hub. How do I get the freebsd machine to
> > install from the freebsd cdrom in the windows95 machine.
>
>         Well, I think you'll it'll be easiest for you to install the
> CDROM in to the FreeBSD machine. Other wise you're going to have to find
> and install a third party FTP server software for Win95 (If such a thing
> exists,) and see if Win95 will be smart enough to figure out that it's
> supposed to be sending files. :)
>
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Hello

i would like to know how do you measure this collision?
thank you

Greg Black wrote:

> > In the last few days I've noticed a really high number of collisions
> > on my Ethernet.  There are only 5 machines on the network, 3 of which
> > are barely active, yet I see:
> >
> > (allegro, running 2.2.6-STABLE)
> > ed0   1500  <Link>      00.00.c0.44.a5.68 43729816    45 43861788    12 977828
> > ed0   1500  widecast      allegro         43729816    45 43861788    12 977828
>
> That's only 1.1%.
>
> > (freebie, running 4.0-CURRENT)
> > Name  Mtu   Network       Address            Ipkts Ierrs    Opkts Oerrs  Coll
> > ed2   1500  <Link>      00.80.48.e6.a0.61 11976144    12 13389307     0 988340
> > ed2   1500  widecast      freebie         11976144    12 13389307     0 988340
>
> And that's only 3.9% -- it's worse than allegro, but not by a
> significant margin for the relatively small amount of traffic.
> On my Ethernet, I have machines that report 0.01%, 9.6%, 0.7%,
> 0.04% and 0.4%.  The outlier is a machine that has been up a few
> hours and was used for a large file transfer which blew its
> average out of the water -- it'll be back to about 1% as time
> goes by.
>
> > I tried an ftp from panic, copying a file of 45 MB from freebie.  The
> > transfer ran at about 1 MB/s with about 450 collisions per second on
> > the freebie side, none on the panic side.  Here are the values before
> > and after:
> >
> > freebie:
> >           Ipkts Ierrs    Opkts Oerrs  Coll
> > before 11978350    13 13392678     0  989089
> > after  11994616    13 13424921     0 1009912
> > diff      16266     0    32243     0   20823
> >
> > panic:
> >           Ipkts Ierrs    Opkts Oerrs  Coll
> > before      480     0      651     1     0
> > after     32143     0    16679     1     0
> > diff      31663     0    16028     0     0
> >
> > Looking at these results (40% collision rate on freebie), it would
> > seem that something is seriously wrong in the network.  On the other
> > hand, allegro also shows a large number of collisions.  At the moment
> > I'm suspecting the (3 month old) Ethernet board in freebie, but I was
> > wondering if there were other reasons which might apply.
>
> I just did some 10 to 15 MB file transfers with NFS on my LAN (I
> don't have FTP set up), and saw collision rates ranging from 25%
> to 35% for those periods.  I'd say that was pretty normal, given
> the way that Ethernet works.  The more interesting statistics
> are the overall figures over time, and the ones you give at the
> start aren't too bad.  Yes, freebie is a bit high -- but 4%
> compared with 1% is not a big factor, especially with the fairly
> low total amount of traffic.  I'd watch it for a bit longer
> before deciding it was a real problem.  After all, if you're
> getting 1 MB/s on a 10 Mb/s LAN, you're doing pretty well :-)
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On Wednesday,  3 February 1999 at 12:11:32 +0800, peter kok wrote:
> Greg Black wrote:
>
>>> In the last few days I've noticed a really high number of collisions
>>> on my Ethernet.  There are only 5 machines on the network, 3 of which
>>> are barely active, yet I see:
>>>
>>> (allegro, running 2.2.6-STABLE)
>>> ed0   1500  <Link>      00.00.c0.44.a5.68 43729816    45 43861788    12 977828
>>> ed0   1500  widecast      allegro         43729816    45 43861788    12 977828
>>
>> That's only 1.1%.
>
> i would like to know how do you measure this collision?

This is output from netstat -bi:

$ netstat -bi
Name  Mtu   Network       Address            Ipkts Ierrs     Ibytes    Opkts Oerrs     Obytes  Coll
ed2   1500  <Link>      00.80.48.e6.a0.61   358053     5   64720004   458435     0  320307968  8347
ed2   1500  widecast      freebie           358053     5   64720004   458435     0  320307968  8347
lp0*  1500  <Link>                               0     0          0        0     0          0     0
tun0  1518  <Link>                             479     0      38668      616     0     126099     0
tun0  1518  widecast      freebie              479     0      38668      616     0     126099     0
tun1* 1500  <Link>                               0     0          0        0     0          0     0
tun2* 1500  <Link>                               0     0          0        0     0          0     0
tun3* 1500  <Link>                               0     0          0        0     0          0     0
sl0*  552   <Link>                               0     0          0        0     0          0     0
ppp0  1500  <Link>                           56159     0   13257713    57910     0   32470985     0

BTW, I had to reboot freebie.  Since then, the incidence of collisions
is *much* lower.  There's something funny going on here.

Greg
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I have just installed mtools from the ports collection on a 3.0 Stable
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mdir a: I get

Can't open /dev/wfd0: Device not configured
Cannot initialize 'A:'

Any ideas on this?

Here is my mtools.conf

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# # FreeBSD floppy drives
drive a: file="/dev/wfd0"
drive b: file="/dev/wfd1"


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	I am trying to get my first 3.0 machine set up. I am having a _very_
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	I can telnet/ftp to machines on my local network. nslookup works to my
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	Any sugestions where to look for this?

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John Sconiers wrote...
> Does CAM capture stsatus changes of devices on the SCSI bus?  IE I
> place a cd into the SCSI cd-rom does CAM capture the signal sent by the
> hardware?  Is there simular support for ide and atapi?  Writting an
> automounter that will automount cd-roms, possible floppys, zips etc.


In a word: No.

The reason that CAM does not detect media insertion, and events like that,
is that there are very, very few devices that support AEN.  AEN is
Asynchronous Event Notification.  It allows a device on the SCSI bus to
send a message to another device, notifying it of a specific event.

To support AEN, the device in question must be capable of being an
initiator, as well as a target.  Also, the controller and controller driver
must support target mode.

The only real way to detect media insertion, etc., is to continually probe
for it.  I think this is how things like mediad on SGI boxes work.  They
probe the drive every so often to see if something has been inserted.

I doubt that ATAPI CDROM drives support anything like AEN that would allow
you to detect media insertion without polling.

One thing to keep in mind is that media probe capability will likely be a
feature of a revamped DEVFS implementation, if it appears at some point.
In fact, Julian had something of the sort working last summer as part of
his DEVFS/SLICE stuff.  Since the media poll routines will block, they'll
probably need to be implemented as either a kernel process/thread, or a
userland daemon that polls for media insertion.

This is obviously an area that would need some thought/design for a good
implementation.

Ken
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Tom Earl wrote...
> Greetings to all,
> 
> I'm sorry if this is posted to the wrong group, but I have 2
> questions...
> 
> 1. Has anybody installed the HP SureStore 4020i?

It should work fine with cdrecord.

> 2. Is there a port for Real Audio Yet?

Dunno about that.  I don't see it in the ports tree.  You may want to
inquire on the ports list.  (ports@FreeBSD.ORG)

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OK, I changed it to /dev/rfd0 and get the same error after I type
mdir.........

plain_io: Input/output error
init A: could not read boot sector
Cannot initialize 'A:'

any ideas for me??

Sean O'Connell wrote:

> On 1999 Feb 02, William Woods (aka wwoods@cybcon.com) wrote:
> > I have just installed mtools from the ports collection on a 3.0 Stable
> > system. Now, when I do a
> > mdir a: I get
> >
> > Can't open /dev/wfd0: Device not configured
> > Cannot initialize 'A:'
> >
> > Any ideas on this?
> >
> > Here is my mtools.conf
> >
> > -----------------------
> > # # FreeBSD floppy drives
> > drive a: file="/dev/wfd0"
> > drive b: file="/dev/wfd1"
> >
> >
> > Any ideas appreciated
>
> Bill-
>
> /dev/wfd0 -> zip drive or ls120
>
> you want to use
>
> /dev/rfd0 or /dev/rfd0c (same)
>
> you probably also want to make sure taht
> you have rw perms ot the device.  a quick
> and dirty approach is to chmod 666 /dev/rfd0
>
> try mdir
>
> S
> --
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> Duke University                                 Fax:   (919) 684-8594
>
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Sebestyen Zoltan wrote...
[Charset iso-8859-2 unsupported, filtering to ASCII...]
> On 1 Feb 1999, Christian Weisgerber wrote:
> 
> > > Any clue what is going on? "aic" is still listed as supported in LINT, although
> > > someone has prepended the above line with "#!CAM#",
> > 
> > This is one of the old drivers that haven't been rewritten yet to fit
> > into the new "CAM" SCSI framework. So the immediate answer to your
> > question is "no".
> > 
> The old SCSI subsystem is still part of FreeBSD, isn't it?
> 


No, it isn't.  It's only in the 2.2.x releases.  All releases, starting
with 3.0, have the CAM code.

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Also, here is a cut from dmesg..........I dont like the looks of this:

----------
fd0: recal failed ST0 70<abnrml,seek_cmplt,equ_chck> cyl 0
fd0: recal failed ST0 70<abnrml,seek_cmplt,equ_chck> cyl 0
fd0: recal failed ST0 70<abnrml,seek_cmplt,equ_chck> cyl 0
fd0: recal failed ST0 70<abnrml,seek_cmplt,equ_chck> cyl 0
fd0c: hard error reading fsbn 0 (No status)
fd0: recal failed ST0 70<abnrml,seek_cmplt,equ_chck> cyl 0
fd0: recal failed ST0 70<abnrml,seek_cmplt,equ_chck> cyl 0
fd0: recal failed ST0 70<abnrml,seek_cmplt,equ_chck> cyl 0
fd0: recal failed ST0 70<abnrml,seek_cmplt,equ_chck> cyl 0
fd0c: hard error reading fsbn 0 (No status)
fd0: recal failed ST0 70<abnrml,seek_cmplt,equ_chck> cyl 0
fd0: recal failed ST0 70<abnrml,seek_cmplt,equ_chck> cyl 0
fd0: recal failed ST0 70<abnrml,seek_cmplt,equ_chck> cyl 0
fd0: recal failed ST0 70<abnrml,seek_cmplt,equ_chck> cyl 0
fd0c: hard error reading fsbn 0 (No status)


William Woods wrote:

> OK, I changed it to /dev/rfd0 and get the same error after I type
> mdir.........
>
> plain_io: Input/output error
> init A: could not read boot sector
> Cannot initialize 'A:'
>
> any ideas for me??
>
> Sean O'Connell wrote:
>
> > On 1999 Feb 02, William Woods (aka wwoods@cybcon.com) wrote:
> > > I have just installed mtools from the ports collection on a 3.0 Stable
> > > system. Now, when I do a
> > > mdir a: I get
> > >
> > > Can't open /dev/wfd0: Device not configured
> > > Cannot initialize 'A:'
> > >
> > > Any ideas on this?
> > >
> > > Here is my mtools.conf
> > >
> > > -----------------------
> > > # # FreeBSD floppy drives
> > > drive a: file="/dev/wfd0"
> > > drive b: file="/dev/wfd1"
> > >
> > >
> > > Any ideas appreciated
> >
> > Bill-
> >
> > /dev/wfd0 -> zip drive or ls120
> >
> > you want to use
> >
> > /dev/rfd0 or /dev/rfd0c (same)
> >
> > you probably also want to make sure taht
> > you have rw perms ot the device.  a quick
> > and dirty approach is to chmod 666 /dev/rfd0
> >
> > try mdir
> >
> > S
> > --
> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Sean O'Connell                                  Email: sean@stat.Duke.EDU
> > Institute of Statistics and Decision Sciences   Phone: (919) 684-5419
> > Duke University                                 Fax:   (919) 684-8594
> >
> > Not only am I highly allergic to perfume; it is an environmental toxin!
> >
> >         http://www.supernet.net/~jackibar/perfume.html


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Brian Behlendorf wrote...
> 
> pez# cdrecord -scanbus
> Cdrecord release 1.6.1 Copyright (C) 1995-1998 Jörg Schilling
> scsibus1:
>                 100) 'IBM     ' 'DCAS-34330W     ' 'S65A' Disk
>                 101) *
>                 102) *
>                 103) *
>                 104) 'SEAGATE ' 'ST15230N        ' '0638' Disk
>                 105) *
>                 106) 'YAMAHA  ' 'CDR400t         ' '1.0q' Removable CD-ROM
>                 107) *
> pez# ls -s
> total 598066
>       3 10            3 11            3 12       598056 cd.img        1
> src
> pez# cdrecord -v -eject speed=2 dev=0,6,0 -isosize cd.img
> Cdrecord release 1.6.1 Copyright (C) 1995-1998 Jörg Schilling
> TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM
> cdrecord: Inappropriate ioctl for device. WARNING: RR-scheduler not
> available, disabling.
> scsidev: '0,6,0'
> scsibus: 0 target: 6 lun: 0
> cdrecord: Inappropriate ioctl for device. Cannot open SCSI driver.
> pez# uname -a
> FreeBSD pez.hyperreal.org 4.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT #2: Sun Jan 31
> 16:10:47 PST 1999     brian@pez.hyperreal.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/pez 
> i386
> 
> 
> Did I miss something in my kernel config? 

You should probably send SCSI questions to the SCSI list.

It looks like, though, you're using the wrong device.  That's SCSI bus 1,
so you should be doing something like:

cdrecord dev=1,6,0 ....

Does this work:

cdrecord dev=1,6,0 -inq

cdrecord will tell you whether or not it can talk to the device.  For
example:

{bladerunner:/usr/home/ken:3:0} cdrecord dev=1,3,0 -inq
Cdrecord release 1.8a14 Copyright (C) 1995-1998 Jörg Schilling
scsidev: '1,3,0'
scsibus: 1 target: 3 lun: 0
Device type    : Removable CD-ROM
Version        : 2
Response Format: 2
Capabilities   : SYNC LINKED 
Vendor_info    : 'PLEXTOR '
Identifikation : 'CD-R   PX-R412C '
Revision       : '1.04'
Device seems to be: Generic mmc CD-R.

It identifies the drive as a generic CD-R.

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Is it possible to check what hosts (if any) in /etc/exports are currently
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I am presently running FreeBDS Version 2.2.6 and I would like to know if it
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On Tue, Feb 02, 1999 at 10:32:21PM -0600, Stingray wrote:
> Is it possible to check what hosts (if any) in /etc/exports are currently
> using NFS file systems on the server?

See showmount(8).

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I tried doing  mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /mnt and I got:

msdos: /dev/fd0: Input/output error

I have not rebooted, I will try that but I am in the middle of a big DL
right now...

I have tried several floppies, all work fine in my windows machiene.

Bill

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> workstation has a floppy tape drive, which occassionally hoses the entire
> floppy subsystem).  Can you mount a DOS formatted floppy:
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Has anyone had any luck getting FreeBSD 3.0 to run on Virtual PC? I know that
people have reported in the past that they couldn't get it to work, but newer
versions of FreeBSD and Virtual PC have come out in the meantime.

I'm able to boot off an image of the boot floppy, but depending on how I set up
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Are there any tricks to getting this thing working, or should I just give up?

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OUCH.  I sent this to -security instead.  And put a decent subject in 
there.  Sorry.

------- Forwarded Message Follows -------
On 2 Feb 99, at 17:10, ira miller wrote:

> I appreciate it...the machine is up and running with freebsd.  One question
> though, I have an Intel Etherexpress pro 100mb card in the machine, and it
> was listed in the kernel config.   How do I get the machine to recognize the
> network?  (the network uses TCP/IP only) we have a router out to the
> internet also.   I thought I did it correctly, but I don't know unix well
> enough to figure out how to check.  

You are welcome.  And welcome to FreeBSD!

I don't know.  But I'll cc this reply to the questions mailing list and it 
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Hi,
I'm trying to install BSD v2.2.5 via FTP on a '486 machine.  I have a small netowrk consisting of 2 pentiums, a '486, SMC 8416 NICs, and a 4-port hub.  The link lights are all lit so I'm pretty sure the physical layer is ok.  I can ping from the windows machines to each other, but the BSD kernel can't find the FTP server on installation.  I'm using Bison FTP server (shareware v 3.5) on one of the pentium's CDROM, drive e:\ as the source.  I can verify that the Bison FTP server is working by logging in from the other pentium.  I'm able to view files, gets, puts, etc. to/from the FTP server.  When I try to install BSD using FTP, I get an error message on the '486 - "couldn't open FTP connction to 192.168.1.110: ....Service not available"
I can see the activity lights on the hub flicker occasionally, showing the retries, but the connection log doesn't show a connection attempt from the BSD machine.  I've tried both anonymous logins and user+password logins, both with the same result.
I used the "makeflp" utility on the CD to create a bootable floppy.  Is there something I need to include on this kernel to enable FTP?  Am I missing something on the FTP login (ftp://192.168.1.110)  (I know this ip address is for internal use only, and I disable it when logging on the the internet).  I feel pretty confident that the FTP server is configured properly, but if you have any suggestions there, it would be appreciated, too.

Thanks in advance for you help

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jeff herrin 

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I was in a similar situation. I bought an extra 16 port module for
a 16Ye and found it didn't work on my 2.2.8 system. After my
research I found that the firmware revision of the CD1440 quad
UART had been changed from 0x46 to 0x48. A look into the 3.0 driver
found that they changed the clock (baud rate divisor), and swapped
the DTR and RTS pins around. So unless the driver supports the new
firmware you won't get far. You could try hacking the code to
make the above mention changes, get the driver files from 3.0
to see what I mean. However the 3.0 driver has sufficient changes
to make a complete back port interesting to say the least.

I ended up doing a 3.0 upgrade, things seem to work well now.
Although I have come across a nasty 3.0 lockup not related to
the Cyclades.

In nlc.lists.freebsd-questions you wrote:
> I just installed a new Cyclades 8Yo board, version 6.02, into an old
> 2.2.5 machine.  After rebuilding the kernel with COM_MULTIPORT and cy0
> support, the system finds the board, and MAKEDEV created the devices.

> I have started getty on the 1st 2 ports to test everything.  It looks
> like getty is sending out a login prompt, but all I see garbage, 
> similar to what you see when the port speed is set incorrectly.

> I did some research and read (somewhere) that the newer Cyclades boards
> don't work with the old driver.  I downloaded the 2.2.x driver from
> Cyclom's ftp site and rebuilt the kernel.  The new kernel panics on
> startup.

> So...........  Is there a new driver that works with 2.2.5?  Or perhaps
> I should upgrade to 3.0.  Cyclom's ftp site had a 3.0 driver available
> for download.  Does that mean the one that ships with the 3.0 CDs 
> doesn't work.

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From: "David Hicks" <dhicks@bendnet.com>
Subject: "Hit and Miss" response......
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 21:45:40 -0800

> I have a FreeBSD machine that is very "hit and miss" when I try to
> contact it from home with Telnet. When I cannot connect, I can't even
> get the machine to respond to a ping. There is not an issue with firewalls
> on the network and other machines in the same room respond without fail
> to pings. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Howdy Cousin :-)

What kind of machine are you connecting with from home?  What version
FreeBSD are you running in the remote location?

Think carefully and try again with as much detail as you can bear.

BTW: I'd be careful about sending passwords in the clear using
telnet; ssh is a much safer choice if your are connecting across
the Internet.

Good Luck,

Jerry Hicks
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As John Sconiers wrote:

> Does CAM capture stsatus changes of devices on the SCSI bus?  IE I
> place a cd into the SCSI cd-rom does CAM capture the signal sent by
> the hardware?

No such thing like a `signal sent by the hardware'.  Next time you
perform some operation on the device, it will respond with a Unit
Attention, thus telling you its medium has been changed.  Still, the
active part is on the side of the host adapter, always.

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In nlc.lists.freebsd-questions you wrote:
> On Tuesday,  2 February 1999 at 11:48:15 -0600, Glenn Johnson wrote:
>> When you say performance should be acceptable, does that imply that
>> performance would be better if I didn't use a Vinum striped volume? I
>> was considering using the striped volume for /usr/obj and /usr/ports.

> I'd expect the performance of a striped volume to be better than for a
> non-striped volume *for multiple concurrent access*.  What you do on
> /usr/obj and /usr/ports doesn't normally fit that model.  I wouldn't
> expect much difference like in this case.

Sustained performance is much better. On my pair of Quantum 6.4GB drives
they get approx 7MB/s sustained (dd if=/dev/zero of=file bs=262144
count=1024). With a vinum strip of 256K in size I get sustained
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> 
> > Does CAM capture stsatus changes of devices on the SCSI bus?  IE I
> > place a cd into the SCSI cd-rom does CAM capture the signal sent by
> > the hardware?
> 
> No such thing like a `signal sent by the hardware'.  Next time you
> perform some operation on the device, it will respond with a Unit
> Attention, thus telling you its medium has been changed.  Still, the
> active part is on the side of the host adapter, always.

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On Wednesday,  3 February 1999 at 17:33:06 +1100, John Saunders wrote:
> In nlc.lists.freebsd-questions you wrote:
>> On Tuesday,  2 February 1999 at 11:48:15 -0600, Glenn Johnson wrote:
>>> When you say performance should be acceptable, does that imply that
>>> performance would be better if I didn't use a Vinum striped volume? I
>>> was considering using the striped volume for /usr/obj and /usr/ports.
>
>> I'd expect the performance of a striped volume to be better than for a
>> non-striped volume *for multiple concurrent access*.  What you do on
>> /usr/obj and /usr/ports doesn't normally fit that model.  I wouldn't
>> expect much difference like in this case.
>
> Sustained performance is much better. On my pair of Quantum 6.4GB drives
> they get approx 7MB/s sustained (dd if=/dev/zero of=file bs=262144
> count=1024). With a vinum strip of 256K in size I get sustained
> 12.5MB/s. Running squid on this setup I can watch the load being
> distributed by running (systat -iostat 1)

Interesting.  Which version of FreeBSD is this?  Are you using the
standard vinum, which includes slow debugging aids, or have you
compiled them out?

> although vinum stats show that one drive seems to be used about 20%
> more than the other.

I've noticed this too.  There's no way this can be a vinum problem (in
other words, you should see exactly the same distribution when using
ccd).  I suspect that it's an incompatibility between ufs and the
stripe size.  I suspect that you may end up with all super blocks on
one drive.  It would be interesting to calculate what stripe size
would balance the cylinder groups across the drives.  

Greg
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Hi there!  I recently installed FreeBSD 2.2.8 on my PC from the CD-Rom 
collection; therefore I also installed a few packages that should appear 
in the /usr/ports directory.  However, while it appears that the 
packages were installed, when I go to the /usr directory, the ports 
directory does not appear to be there, so I can't configure things like 
Mesa or Kde.  Also, when I run /stand/sysinstall, the packages appear 
marked with an X, meaning that the packages were in fact installed, but 
are nowhere to be found in the /usr directory.  Can you help me out with 
this problem?  Thanks.

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Greg,
	I've seen weirdness like this before, but I can't bring the cause to the
front of my brain at the moment.
	I seem to remember one case where a 10-base-T cable had the wrong polarity
on the rx pair, and this was causing a station to miss its collision sense.
Consequently it wasn't doing a good job of backing off early.

	Before anyone gets grumpy with me, I may have the details of the cable
fault wrong. I also remeber a case where one wire of the rx pair was
marginal, and the system functioned, albeit irrationally.

	At least once a year I run into someone using two 10-base-T nics on the
same hub port. How? Some hubs have a port that is both a "regular" and
"uplink" port. When two station are connected this way, the tx collisions
slip in under the collison sense mechanism. It can be quite a good laugh
when you try to explain why not to use both ports at once. ( I haven't seen
a lan analyzer yet that will pinpoint this specific problem. )

	zzzzzz... oops, I'm curious to see what it turns out to be.

	[RC]


At 02:41 PM 2/3/99 +1030, Greg Lehey wrote:
>On Wednesday,  3 February 1999 at 12:11:32 +0800, peter kok wrote:
>> Greg Black wrote:
>>
>>>> In the last few days I've noticed a really high number of collisions
>>>> on my Ethernet.  There are only 5 machines on the network, 3 of which
>>>> are barely active, yet I see:
>>>>
>>>> (allegro, running 2.2.6-STABLE)
>>>> ed0   1500  <Link>      00.00.c0.44.a5.68 43729816    45 43861788
12 977828
>>>> ed0   1500  widecast      allegro         43729816    45 43861788
12 977828
>>>
>>> That's only 1.1%.
>>
>> i would like to know how do you measure this collision?
>
>This is output from netstat -bi:
>
>$ netstat -bi
>Name  Mtu   Network       Address            Ipkts Ierrs     Ibytes
Opkts Oerrs     Obytes  Coll
>ed2   1500  <Link>      00.80.48.e6.a0.61   358053     5   64720004
458435     0  320307968  8347
>ed2   1500  widecast      freebie           358053     5   64720004
458435     0  320307968  8347
>lp0*  1500  <Link>                               0     0          0
0     0          0     0
>tun0  1518  <Link>                             479     0      38668
616     0     126099     0
>tun0  1518  widecast      freebie              479     0      38668
616     0     126099     0
>tun1* 1500  <Link>                               0     0          0
0     0          0     0
>tun2* 1500  <Link>                               0     0          0
0     0          0     0
>tun3* 1500  <Link>                               0     0          0
0     0          0     0
>sl0*  552   <Link>                               0     0          0
0     0          0     0
>ppp0  1500  <Link>                           56159     0   13257713
57910     0   32470985     0
>
>BTW, I had to reboot freebie.  Since then, the incidence of collisions
>is *much* lower.  There's something funny going on here.
>
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I'm using /etc/syslog.conf to direct my dhcp messages to 
/var/log/dhcp.log.  That works.  But the entries are being duplicated to 
/var/log/messages.  I'm quite sure I need a facilty/program specified on 
the /var/log/messages line of /etc/syslog.conf but I've not been able to 
get it right.

For example, the following lines were found in both files:

Jan 30 10:00:48 ns dhclient: DHCPREQUEST on ed0 to 202.27.184.4 port 67
Jan 30 10:50:37 ns dhclient: DHCPREQUEST on ed0 to 202.27.184.4 port 67
Jan 30 11:44:14 ns dhclient: DHCPREQUEST on ed0 to 202.27.184.4 port 67

Here's my /etc/syslog.conf.  I'm using 2.2.8-stable.

#     $Id: syslog.conf,v 1.4.2.5 1998/10/14 22:02:58 nate Exp $
#
#     Spaces are NOT valid field separators in this file.
#     Consult the syslog.conf(5) manpage.

*.*;mail.none;cron.none;kern.none;local0.none;ftp.none;auth.none;authpriv.n
one;ntp.none /var/log/messages
mail.*                                          /var/log/maillog
cron.*                                          /var/cron/log
kern.*                                          /var/log/kernel.log
auth.*;authpriv.*                               /var/log/auth.log
ntp.*                                           /var/log/ntp.log

# uncomment these if you're running inn
# news.crit                                     /var/log/news/news.crit
# news.err                                      /var/log/news/news.err
# news.notice                                   /var/log/news/news.notice

local0.*                                        /var/log/tcpd.log
local0.info;local0.debug                        /var/log/firewall.log
local0.err                                      /var/log/firewall.err

ftp.*                                           /var/log/ftp.log

!startslip
*.*                                             /var/log/slip.log

!ppp
*.*                                             /var/log/ppp.log

!popper
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!dhclient
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From: "Lionel Echeverria" <leer10@hotmail.com>

> Hi there!  I recently installed FreeBSD 2.2.8 on my PC from the CD-Rom 
> collection; therefore I also installed a few packages that should appear 
> in the /usr/ports directory.  However, while it appears that the 
> packages were installed, when I go to the /usr directory, the ports 
> directory does not appear to be there, so I can't configure things like 
> Mesa or Kde.  Also, when I run /stand/sysinstall, the packages appear 
> marked with an X, meaning that the packages were in fact installed, but 
> are nowhere to be found in the /usr directory.  Can you help me out with 
> this problem?  Thanks.

Hi Lionel,

I think you're a bit confused.  That's Ok, I am too  :-)

Think of a FreeBSD package as a precompiled port.  

There are many ports which don't get made into packages for the CD, 
but every normal package has a corresponding port it was created
from.

I say 'normal package' because there are a couple which were
either manually assembled or the corresponding 'ports' was
never publicly released.

So, to answer your question:  Don't look in /usr/ports expecting
to find packages.  Have a peek at /usr/local/bin to see if you
have gobs of programs installed in there.

You can also look at /var/db/pkg to determine just which packages
are installed.

HTH,

Jerry Hicks
wghicks@bellsouth.net


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I've just installed FreeBSD on this machine.  My problem, on boot: -v

psm0: current command byte:0047
kbdio: TEST_AUX_PORT status:00fa
kbdio: DIAGNOSE status:0055
kbdio: TEST_KBD_PORT status:00fa
rsm: keyboard port failed
psm0: the aux port is not functionning (250).
psm0 not found at 0x60

Yet I know that the port is there, I know that the mouse works
(this is a dual boot Win98/FreeBSD).  I've searched through the
mailing list archives and found nothing.  I don't know where the
problem is, but apparently something failed.

Also:

pci0:15: vendor0x11ad, device0x0002, class=network(ethernet)
int a irq 10 [no dpiver assigned]

This is my network card.  I checked tje different supported cards,
and the one I chose apparently was supported (but obviously isn't
under the driver I selected).  It's a Linksys LNE100TX.  Of course,
it's PnP and I don't know if I can disable the PnP ability.  I thought
is was supported under the de driver, and I don't know which driver
would support it.

Does anyone have any clue on

1- making the PS/2 ports work (the keyboard works, but the psm0 port
iqn't found).
2- getting the network card to work (I had the choice between that,
and the D-Link DFE-530, not DE-530)

Thanks!

Manu

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I'd like to switch my keyboard layout between Finnish and US
keyboard. I'd like to do this without killing and restarting the X
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Dear Sirs,

A lot of people talk about Free BSD and I am definitely
interested in purchasing a copy for my own personal use, just for
pleasure and probably just for the hell of it.

I have one quick question.  Last year around August or'
September 1998, the ANSI C++ committee "finally" set up
"the standard".  I was wondering if your newest version
of BSD has build-in C++ compiler which complies to this finalized
standard??

If it happens that you are working on the new one which
will comply to this "standard", please let me know the
version of FreeBSD it is going to be, so that I can make a note for
myself (and possible date of release).

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On Wed, 3 Feb 1999, Greg Lehey wrote:

> > Sustained performance is much better. On my pair of Quantum 6.4GB drives
> > they get approx 7MB/s sustained (dd if=/dev/zero of=file bs=262144
> > count=1024). With a vinum strip of 256K in size I get sustained
> > 12.5MB/s. Running squid on this setup I can watch the load being
> > distributed by running (systat -iostat 1)
> 
> Interesting.  Which version of FreeBSD is this?  Are you using the
> standard vinum, which includes slow debugging aids, or have you
> compiled them out?

This is done with RELENG_3 cvsupped about a week ago. I did a recent cvsup
and noticed a lot of vinum changes, so it was prior to the lastest
round of changes. Particularly the vinum_slices -> vinum_disks change
bit me (I use rc.conf.local for host config).

The machine is a PII-350MHz/100MHz bus with 128MB SDRAM so I think any CPU
intensive debug would be dealt with rather quickly.

On a slower P120MHz I get 4.8MB/s on a single drive and 7.2MB/s with a
vinum stripe. So CPU does play a factor in getting close to the
theoretical double in performance.

> > although vinum stats show that one drive seems to be used about 20%
> > more than the other.
> 
> I've noticed this too.  There's no way this can be a vinum problem (in
> other words, you should see exactly the same distribution when using
> ccd).  I suspect that it's an incompatibility between ufs and the
> stripe size.  I suspect that you may end up with all super blocks on
> one drive.  It would be interesting to calculate what stripe size
> would balance the cylinder groups across the drives.  

Is there anything wrong with a strip size that is not a power of 2? 
Although it still would have to be a multiple of the block size. On Linux
the mke2fs command has an option to specify the stripe size and it does
some tweaks to avoid putting super blocks on the same drive. With the ufs
32MB cylinder groups I woudln't be surprised if if all super blocks were
on the same disk. Anyone for prime number stripe sizes?

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> From: ts@polynet.lviv.ua
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> I try to build Dial-UP server on FreeBSD.
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At http://www.nitek.ru/~igor/pppd/ you can find
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On Wednesday,  3 February 1999 at 18:22:58 +1100, John Saunders wrote:
> On Wed, 3 Feb 1999, Greg Lehey wrote:
>
>>> Sustained performance is much better. On my pair of Quantum 6.4GB drives
>>> they get approx 7MB/s sustained (dd if=/dev/zero of=file bs=262144
>>> count=1024). With a vinum strip of 256K in size I get sustained
>>> 12.5MB/s. Running squid on this setup I can watch the load being
>>> distributed by running (systat -iostat 1)
>>
>> Interesting.  Which version of FreeBSD is this?  Are you using the
>> standard vinum, which includes slow debugging aids, or have you
>> compiled them out?
>
> This is done with RELENG_3 cvsupped about a week ago. I did a recent cvsup
> and noticed a lot of vinum changes, so it was prior to the lastest
> round of changes. Particularly the vinum_slices -> vinum_disks change
> bit me (I use rc.conf.local for host config).
>
> The machine is a PII-350MHz/100MHz bus with 128MB SDRAM so I think any CPU
> intensive debug would be dealt with rather quickly.

There's a certain truth to that.  Some of the debug stuff (like the
memory allocation) is painfully slow, but it's probably still faster
than a disk.

You might like to try to change the parameters in the Makefiles
(/usr/src/sbin/vinum/Makefile and
/usr/src/sys/modules/vinum/Makefile).  Remove the parameter
-DVINUMDEBUG from both of them, do make all install, and see how
things look then.  

>>> although vinum stats show that one drive seems to be used about 20%
>>> more than the other.
>>
>> I've noticed this too.  There's no way this can be a vinum problem (in
>> other words, you should see exactly the same distribution when using
>> ccd).  I suspect that it's an incompatibility between ufs and the
>> stripe size.  I suspect that you may end up with all super blocks on
>> one drive.  It would be interesting to calculate what stripe size
>> would balance the cylinder groups across the drives.
>
> Is there anything wrong with a strip size that is not a power of 2?

Not that I know of :-)  It would be a bug if it were.

> Although it still would have to be a multiple of the block size. 

Right, everything's a multiple of the block size.  It also needs to be
a fraction of the volume size.

> On Linux the mke2fs command has an option to specify the stripe size
> and it does some tweaks to avoid putting super blocks on the same
> drive.

This is new to me.  I didn't know that ext2fs knew anything about
striping.

> With the ufs 32MB cylinder groups I woudln't be surprised if if all
> super blocks were on the same disk. Anyone for prime number stripe
> sizes?

Try it and tell me :-)

Greg
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On Tuesday,  2 February 1999 at 22:57:02 -0800, Robert Clark wrote:
> At 02:41 PM 2/3/99 +1030, Greg Lehey wrote:
>> On Wednesday,  3 February 1999 at 12:11:32 +0800, peter kok wrote:
>>> Greg Black wrote:
>>>
>>>>> In the last few days I've noticed a really high number of collisions
>>>>> on my Ethernet.  There are only 5 machines on the network, 3 of which
>>>>> are barely active, yet I see:
>>>>>
>>>>> (allegro, running 2.2.6-STABLE)
>>>>> ed0   1500  <Link>      00.00.c0.44.a5.68 43729816    45 43861788 12 977828
>>>>> ed0   1500  widecast      allegro         43729816    45 43861788 12 977828
>>>>
>>>> That's only 1.1%.
>>>
>>> i would like to know how do you measure this collision?
>>
>> This is output from netstat -bi:
>>
>> $ netstat -bi
>> Name  Mtu   Network       Address            Ipkts Ierrs     Ibytes Opkts Oerrs     Obytes  Coll
>> ed2   1500  <Link>      00.80.48.e6.a0.61   358053     5   64720004 458435     0  320307968  8347
>> ed2   1500  widecast      freebie           358053     5   64720004 458435     0  320307968  8347
>>
>> BTW, I had to reboot freebie.  Since then, the incidence of collisions
>> is *much* lower.  There's something funny going on here.
>
> 	I've seen weirdness like this before, but I can't bring the
> cause to the front of my brain at the moment.
> 	I seem to remember one case where a 10-base-T cable had the
> wrong polarity on the rx pair, and this was causing a station to
> miss its collision sense.  Consequently it wasn't doing a good job
> of backing off early.
>
> 	Before anyone gets grumpy with me, I may have the details of
> the cable fault wrong. I also remeber a case where one wire of the
> rx pair was marginal, and the system functioned, albeit
> irrationally.
>
> 	At least once a year I run into someone using two 10-base-T
> nics on the same hub port. How? Some hubs have a port that is both a
> "regular" and "uplink" port. When two station are connected this
> way, the tx collisions slip in under the collison sense
> mechanism. It can be quite a good laugh when you try to explain why
> not to use both ports at once. ( I haven't seen a lan analyzer yet
> that will pinpoint this specific problem. )

Interesting.  That's not the case here, because the whole network is
RG 58.

> 	zzzzzz... oops, I'm curious to see what it turns out to be.

I suspect hardware failure, software bug (it only happens with the ed
driver; other Ethernet boards are unaffected) or phase of the moon.

Greg
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On Monday,  1 February 1999 at  5:06:59 -0800, David Greenman wrote:
>>> Well, the values for freebie are now:
>>>
>>> Name  Mtu   Network       Address            Ipkts Ierrs    Opkts Oerrs  Coll
>>> ed2   1500  <Link>      00.80.48.e6.a0.61 16493376    34 21501269     0 2326175
>>> ed2   1500  widecast      freebie         16493376    34 21501269     0 2326175
>>>
>>> Since yesterday, that's 8 million more output packets and 1.3 million
>>> collisions.  That suggests that something might be getting worse.
>>
>> Yes, it does look as though it's getting worse.  You may indeed
>> have a fault somewhere.  I'd certainly check the cables first,
>> and try swapping some of them around before pulling cards from
>> machines.  (I have to pull video cards from five machines
>> tomorrow to swap them for something that works with FreeBSD, so
>> I'm a bit jaundiced about pulling cards at the moment :-) )
>
>    Anything less than 50% collision rate is okay and doesn't reduce the
> throughput significantly. All of the numbers below are in the noise.

You mean it's the noise that's causing the collisions?

Seriously, it's clear that it's not affecting the performance, though
that surprises me; how long does a board hold off after a collision?
I haven't been able to find that info anywhere, but I once worked for
a nameless computer manufacturer whose net had about 50% collisions,
and the throughput was terrible.

The real question was: why is this happening?  I still suspect that
it's trying to tell me something, but I haven't a good feeling for
what.

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Our central SMPT / POP3 server in our company is running
FreeBSD 2.2.7-RELEASE and sendmail(8). We installed on some
Win95 boxes a new MSOE version (don't blame me for that :-)).
Now the clients can't deliver mail using "SMTP" (in real they're not
using SMTP but ESMTP). I checked it with tcpdump(8) and all is
fine with the connection until the client says "EHLO....":

17:49:36.535244 10.0.1.15.1118 > 193.31.10.38.25: P 1:19(18) ack 87 win 8674 (DF)
			 4500 003a ed3a 4000 1e06 992f 0a00 010f
			 c11f 0a26 045e 0019 00e5 455c f489 274f
			 5018 21e2 604e 0000 4548 4c4f 206e 732e
			 7369 7369 732e 6465 0d0a

The sendmail(8) sends back the greeting and the parameters

250-hermes.sisis.de Hello ......, pleased to meet you
250-EXPN
250-VERB
250-8BITMIME
250-SIZE 1000000
250-DSN
250-ONEX
250-ETRN
250-XUSR
250 HELP

but sends them in *two* IP packages, here is the 1st one:

17:49:36.537738 193.31.10.38.25 > 10.0.1.15.1118: P 87:187(100) ack 19 win 17520 (DF)
			 4500 008c 1d4c 4000 4006 46cc c11f 0a26
			 0a00 010f 0019 045e f489 274f 00e5 456e
			 5018 4470 e664 0000 3235 302d 6865 726d
			 6573 2e73 6973 6973 2e64 6520 4865 6c6c
			 6f20 646b 7261 7573 732e 5369 7369 732e
			 6465 205b 3130 2e30 2e31 2e31 355d 2c20
			 706c 6561 7365 6420 746f 206d 6565 7420
			 796f 750d 0a32 3530 2d45 5850 4e0d 0a32
			 3530 2d56 4552 420d 0a32 3530

The client does not await the final "250 ..." messages but
proceeds  with its "MAIL From:..." protocol:

17:49:36.620115 10.0.1.15.1118 > 193.31.10.38.25: P 19:58(39) ack 187 win 8574 (DF)
			 4500 004f ee3a 4000 1e06 981a 0a00 010f
			 c11f 0a26 045e 0019 00e5 456e f489 27b3
			 5018 217e 9995 0000 4d41 494c 2046 524f
			 4d3a 203c 646f 726f 7468 6561 2e6b 7261
			 7573 7340 7369 7369 732e 6465 3e0d 0a

here is the bottom half of the server greeting/parameters in a 2nd pkg:

17:49:36.620705 193.31.10.38.25 > 10.0.1.15.1118: P 187:265(78) ack 58 win 17481 (DF)
			 4500 0076 1d4d 4000 4006 46e1 c11f 0a26
			 0a00 010f 0019 045e f489 27b3 00e5 4595
			 5018 4449 2792 0000 2d38 4249 544d 494d
			 450d 0a32 3530 2d53 495a 4520 3130 3030
			 3030 300d 0a32 3530 2d44 534e 0d0a 3235
			 302d 4f4e 4558 0d0a 3235 302d 4554 524e
			 0d0a 3235 302d 5855 5352 0d0a 3235 3020
			 4845 4c50 0d0a

the client gets confused and stuck and FINISH's the IP exchange:

17:49:36.659147 10.0.1.15.1118 > 193.31.10.38.25: F 58:58(0) ack 265 win 8496 (DF)
			 4500 0028 ef3a 4000 1e06 9741 0a00 010f
			 c11f 0a26 045e 0019 00e5 4595 f489 2801
			 5011 2130 50d3 0000 1d00 0003 0140

I think the client is simply buggy (as usual with these nice and
flashy tools of M$) but is there a way to:

- bring sendmail's answer to the EHLO into *one* IP pkg?
- set the MSOE to use SMTP and not ESMTP (I know that's the wrong
  forum to ask :-) but may be some one had the same prob already);

	matthias
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> Hi Manu,

hi :)
 
> Which version of FreeBSD are you installing?

oups...  Sorry.  FreeBSD 2.2.7 release from the October 98 CD set.
 
> And I know it seems silly to ask, are you sure the
> keyboard and mouse connectors aren't swapped?

Certain.  It's kinda hard to miss with the color coding ;)

Manu

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I'm in the process of starting up a freebsd mirror site.  The port appears 
to have installed correctly.  cvsupd was going out and asking for files.  
It wasn't getting any because it was looking at freefall.freebsd.org and 
it was not configured for my firewall.

So I've modified /usr/local/etc/cvsup/update.sh to include "-P -" to 
select passive mode.  I've also changed /usr/local/etc/cvsup/config.sh to 
include the following line:

host="cvsup.au.FreeBSD.org"

My problem is not knowing how to start cvsupd from the command line.

/usr/local/etc/rc.d/cvsupd.sh contains:

! /bin/sh

if ! PREFIX=$(expr $0 : "\(/.*\)/etc/rc\.d/cvsupd\.sh\$"); then
    echo "$0: Cannot determine the PREFIX" >&2
    exit 1
fi
base=${PREFIX}/etc/cvsup
out=/var/tmp/cvsupd.out

export PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:${PREFIX}/sbin
umask 2

test -x ${PREFIX}/sbin/cvsupd || exit 1
echo -n " cvsupd"
cd ${base} || exit
. ./config.sh || exit
su -m ${user} -c \
    "cvsupd -e -C ${maxclients} -l @${facility} -s sup.client" >>${out} 
2>&1


But if I run it I get:

[root@ns:/usr/local/etc/rc.d] # ./cvsupd.sh 
./cvsupd.sh: Cannot determine the PREFIX

I'm assuming PREFIX should be /usr/local.  But that's as far as I can get.

cheers.

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Jasper O'Malley wrote:

> On Mon, 1 Feb 1999, Evren Yurtesen wrote:
>
> > what if some non-root person crashes a process by filling up
> > /tmp directory? and when that proceses needs that directory
> > it will not be able to use it.
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Hopefully, you've got your machine paging you if/when your filesystems are
> filled up. If you like, as I suggested before, you can put /tmp on its own
> filesystem and apply (large) user quotas to it. That way, it takes a
> concerted effort to fill up /tmp, not one rogue user. But you really,
> really should keep the permissions on /tmp mode 1777.

you mean:
do i change the tmp directory to 1777 (chmod tmp 1777)?
then, could the system page me 'filled up'?

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On Wed, Feb 03, 1999 at 09:21:08AM +0200, Antti Kaipila <anttik@iki.fi> wrote:

> 
> I'd like to switch my keyboard layout between Finnish and US
> keyboard. I'd like to do this without killing and restarting the X
> server. Is there any way to do this easily. Like some nice little
> software that let's me choose my layout "on the fly".

Search over the ports collection, if I remember correctly such a 
software exist under some x11-* collections. It was meant to switch 
between Russian and US layout. I think you can reach same behavior by 
creating two different keymaps and using xmodmap(1) to load necessary 
keymap on the fly. It seems very simple but creating correct keymap 
is black art for me. Better use ready to use keymaps and modify them 
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, need 6)

   Has anyone seen this, or know what it is? (3.0)
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Greg Lehey wrote:
> 
> On Monday,  1 February 1999 at  5:06:59 -0800, David Greenman wrote:
> >>> Well, the values for freebie are now:
> >>>
> >>> Name  Mtu   Network       Address            Ipkts Ierrs    Opkts Oerrs  Coll
> >>> ed2   1500  <Link>      00.80.48.e6.a0.61 16493376    34 21501269     0 2326175
> >>> ed2   1500  widecast      freebie         16493376    34 21501269     0 2326175
> >>>
> >>> Since yesterday, that's 8 million more output packets and 1.3 million
> >>> collisions.  That suggests that something might be getting worse.
> >>
> >> Yes, it does look as though it's getting worse.  You may indeed
> >> have a fault somewhere.  I'd certainly check the cables first,
> >> and try swapping some of them around before pulling cards from
> >> machines.  (I have to pull video cards from five machines
> >> tomorrow to swap them for something that works with FreeBSD, so
> >> I'm a bit jaundiced about pulling cards at the moment :-) )
> >
> >    Anything less than 50% collision rate is okay and doesn't reduce the
> > throughput significantly. All of the numbers below are in the noise.
> 
> You mean it's the noise that's causing the collisions?
> 
> Seriously, it's clear that it's not affecting the performance, though
> that surprises me; how long does a board hold off after a collision?
> I haven't been able to find that info anywhere, but I once worked for
> a nameless computer manufacturer whose net had about 50% collisions,
> and the throughput was terrible.
> 
> The real question was: why is this happening?  I still suspect that
> it's trying to tell me something, but I haven't a good feeling for
> what.

I have had the same problem , and it seems to be related to the fact
that some ethernet cards ( among which mine ) are not autodetect for
the port ( RJ45 or BNC ), try putting your machine on BNC and see what happen
suddendly all these problems go away ? :)) if so then just take your ethernet
card utility disk and switch the port to be used from BNC to RJ45

For info: I am using a <NE2000 PCI Ethernet (RealTek 8029)>

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> >    Anything less than 50% collision rate is okay and doesn't reduce the
> > throughput significantly. All of the numbers below are in the noise.
> 
> You mean it's the noise that's causing the collisions?
> 
> Seriously, it's clear that it's not affecting the performance, though
> that surprises me; how long does a board hold off after a collision?
> I haven't been able to find that info anywhere, but I once worked for
> a nameless computer manufacturer whose net had about 50% collisions,
> and the throughput was terrible.
> 
> The real question was: why is this happening?  I still suspect that
> it's trying to tell me something, but I haven't a good feeling for
> what.

   The collisions are caused by the packet acks in the opposite direction.
Collisions are usually detected very early in the transmission and the
backoff is usually very short. Modern hardware leaves no room for the acks
to slip in without colliding, so you get a lot more collisions. A high
collision rate with a small number of hosts involved is usually nothing to
worry about. It's when you have a lot of machines all trying to talk that
you get into trouble (...but then the collision rate in that case can easily
be several hundred percent). In the nameless comp manufacturer case above,
they probably had other problems with their net that caused CRC errors and
dropped packets...very different from collisions which are retried very
quickly and for up to 16 times before the packet is dropped.

-DG

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On Tue, Feb 02, 1999 at 08:37:08PM -0500, Malartre wrote:
> But there is a 3com etherlink 3c905b in it. If disable the PnP option,
> it should work OK, right? 

I believe the 3c905b is a PCI card and therefore isn't exactly PnP
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Hi
I just want to ask is it possible to come a new version of freeBSD
HandBook in eyerich time? Tnx a lot

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USER             TTY      FROM              LOGIN@  IDLE WHAT
w: proc size mismatch (24920 total, 680 chunks): Undefined error: 0

Upgraded to 3.0 stable how can I fix this? Everthing else works fine.




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After upgrade you need to recompile kernel.

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As I don't have pockets so deep, I need to know where I can get a java
compiler after I get the Operating System from FreeBSD.  Will I be able
to download a free Java Compiler?  I need to partition my hard drive to
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I recompiled the kernel also.

On Wed, 3 Feb 1999, voux wrote:

> After upgrade you need to recompile kernel.
> 
> On Wed, 3 Feb 1999, Jt wrote:
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> > USER             TTY      FROM              LOGIN@  IDLE WHAT
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> > 
> > Upgraded to 3.0 stable how can I fix this? Everthing else works fine.
> > 
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Did you add following line to yours kernel ?
options         PROCFS                  #Process filesystem

On Wed, 3 Feb 1999, voux wrote:

> After upgrade you need to recompile kernel.
> 
> On Wed, 3 Feb 1999, Jt wrote:
> 
> > 
> > USER             TTY      FROM              LOGIN@  IDLE WHAT
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> > 
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> > 
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Yes , the kernel is fine.. I built world & installed no problem made new
kernel no problems...just the w command.



On Wed, 3 Feb 1999, voux wrote:

> Did you add following line to yours kernel ?
> options         PROCFS                  #Process filesystem
> 
> On Wed, 3 Feb 1999, voux wrote:
> 
> > After upgrade you need to recompile kernel.
> > 
> > On Wed, 3 Feb 1999, Jt wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > USER             TTY      FROM              LOGIN@  IDLE WHAT
> > > w: proc size mismatch (24920 total, 680 chunks): Undefined error: 0
> > > 
> > > Upgraded to 3.0 stable how can I fix this? Everthing else works fine.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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"Mayo O." wrote:
> 
> As I don't have pockets so deep, I need to know where I can get a java
> compiler after I get the Operating System from FreeBSD.  Will I be able
> to download a free Java Compiler?  I need to partition my hard drive to
> accomodate the new O.S.  How do I do that without causing any problems
> with what I have alrready in my computer?
>

IBM's Jikes Java compiler is available free. I don;t know the exact
URL as I'm at work, but it was mentioned in either -questions and/or
-chat a couple of months ago so you could search the mail archives or
try IBM's website.

HTH 



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On Tue, Feb 02, 1999 at 01:44:01PM -0500, Chris Shenton wrote:
> Gunnar Flygt <gunnar@pluto.sr.se> writes:
> 
> > Replying to my own mail, I had to give up making 3.0-RELEASE run on this
> > machine. I installed Redhat 5.2 which runs flawlessly. Pity since I run
> > FreeBSD on all my other machines, stationaries and laptops.
> 
> I'm running 2.2.8 with no problems on a Thinkpad 560X.
> 
> I don't know what the differences are between your 700 and mine,
> interms of chips. I'd try disabling anything you didn't absolutely
> require to boot in the visual config thing so you can find what it
> doesn't like.

The thing is, the machine freezes before I can even do anything with the
visual config.

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On Wed, Feb 03, 1999 at 09:06:43AM +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote:

I'm not an expert, but it seems like the M$ client is trying to use
pipelining, which is where the client can simply keep sending out commands
without waiting for responses. Pipelining is an ESMTP feature supported by
some of the newer MTA's like qmail and exim. However, a client cannot
assume that the server supports pipelining unless the server says so by
returning a 250-PIPELINING along with the other codes in response to an
EHLO. I suppose MSOE is being stupid here, as is usual with M$ junk.

> Our central SMPT / POP3 server in our company is running
> FreeBSD 2.2.7-RELEASE and sendmail(8). We installed on some
> Win95 boxes a new MSOE version (don't blame me for that :-)).
> Now the clients can't deliver mail using "SMTP" (in real they're not
> using SMTP but ESMTP). I checked it with tcpdump(8) and all is
> fine with the connection until the client says "EHLO....":
> 
> 17:49:36.535244 10.0.1.15.1118 > 193.31.10.38.25: P 1:19(18) ack 87 win 8674 (DF)
> 			 4500 003a ed3a 4000 1e06 992f 0a00 010f
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> 			 5018 21e2 604e 0000 4548 4c4f 206e 732e
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 14:58:57 +0200 (SAT)
From: Warren Fabricius <wfab@iafrica.com>
To: khetan@iafrica.com
Subject: Absolute newbie to BSD

Hi Khetan...Warren here

I've recently decided to see what BSD is all about. I have no idea if you
have a mailing list that exists for absolute newbies or not, but I am
having a problem installing BSD 2.2.2. I realise that new BSD versions
exist, but would like to see how it looked and worked back then, before
installing BSD 2.2.7. The problem I'm having is the following:

My bios is set to boot up from cd...this works fine. I ge the BSD boot
page, showing me all the components as they are installing. It then runs
through to the installation pages (asking to perform the "fdisk
equivalent, choosing whether you want all the ports, etc..then it asks
where you would like to install from...I select cdrom installation. It
then says it can't find my cd-rom. 

The question is: what am i doing wrong ? why does it detect my cd on
bootup, but not in the actual FreeBSD environment ?

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Thanks

Warren



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Hello,
I passwd form 3.0-RELEASE to 3.0-STABLE
I hve these troubles.

I did this.

echo /boot/loader > /boot.config so now het ELF kernel is loaded
it starts and I ahve this WARNING:
Cannot find /boot/boot.conf
but ti works anyway. What is htei boot.conf file he is searchign for ??

then I have this warnign message in the firewall loading rules:

IP packet filtering initialized, divert disabled, rule-based forwarding disabled, logging limited to 10 packets/entry
changing root device to wd0s1a
ip_fw_ctl: empty interface name

I have this warning of empty interface then the firewall does not wor
kanymore. Before with 3.0-RELEASE it worked and I Di nto have this
warning.

Then an other thing.
I cannot see anymore processes with ps and w I guess I ahve to recompile
usr.sbin usr.bin and bin usr.libexec and all hte STABLE stuff, so this is
not a problem.
THe problem is... how to get rid of ip_fw_ctl warning message ??
and how to fix the warning of /boot/boot.conf not found ??

if I build usr.bin sbin etc of the stable distribution the new programs
will work with 3.0-RELEASE ??

becaus if I build now the new binaries for STABLE on my RELEASE system
and they will not work to build STABLE this is a problem.
Besides if I build STABLE now... the old binaries of 3.0 RELEASE does not
work good so I Cannot build new binaries for the src STABLE
distribution...

how I ahve to do ??

thanks

Rick





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Dear, Sir,
I have a mail problem, and I use the Freebsd 3.0 Release and sendmail 8.9.1.
The DNS of my computer is rpv.iaa.ncku.edu.tw, and I do not have a DNS server.
On the other computer I can ping the computer rpv, so I think the DNS is O.K.
When I send a mail to xxx@sparc3.cc.ncku.edu.tw , it fails. 
And I cannot receive the mail from it. From the maillog, it tells me the message below:

Feb  4 13:08:46 rpv sendmail[1336]: NAA01334:
 to=<xxx@sparc1.cc.ncku.edu.tw>, ctladdr=<xxx@rpv.iaa.ncku.edu.tw>
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 <xxx@rpv.iaa.ncku.edu.tw>... unresolvable relay host name
 [140.116.202.142],check your setup.
But I do not know where to check my setup. 
On the other hand, when I send a mail to xxx.bbs@vlsi1.iie.ncku.edu.tw or xxx@yahoo.com. I find it is O.K., no mater send or receiver.
I get the conclusion that some places I can send and receiver, but some cannot.
Can you help me get the answer to solve this problem? 
Because I use the 2.2.7 before, I never had this problem before.
Now I change to the 3.0 Release, the problem happens.
I have change the /etc/relay-domains file.
Please help me. Thank you.

Sincerely,
     Kuo-Chun Fan


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I have many problems in may server getting the message on dmesg:

file: table is full

I have set the option
OPEN_MAX=256
in the kernel, but I still have problems.

Where can I know the effective number of open file at a moment.
Where do I configure It.

Is there any additional limit on user, process or so on?


Thanks in advance

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>At http://www.nitek.ru/~igor/pppd/ you can find
>how to setup pppd in Russian.


How 'bout a place in English???
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Hello!

Take a look at:
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On Wed, 3 Feb 1999, peter kok wrote:

> do i change the tmp directory to 1777 (chmod tmp 1777)?

The /tmp directory already is mode 1777 by default.

> then, could the system page me 'filled up'?

Nope. You'd have to set up a paging system yourself, if that's something
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systems one way or another.

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> From: Alain G. Fabry <fabry@panam.edu>

> >At http://www.nitek.ru/~igor/pppd/ you can find
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> How 'bout a place in English???

I don't know a good howto for FreeBSD.
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Hello!
I am deciding what version of FreeBSD to install to my computer.
I need the latest stable version. So what is the difference between
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On Wed, Feb 03, 1999 at 02:27:51PM +0100, Riccardo Veraldi wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> I passwd form 3.0-RELEASE to 3.0-STABLE
> I hve these troubles.
> 
> I did this.
> 
[...]
> 
> how I ahve to do ??
> 
> thanks
> 
> Rick

Hi!

You should (in the specified order):

1. Rebuild your system (cd /usr/src && make world)
2. Rebuild your kernel (check /sys/i386/conf/LINT)
3. Install new boot blocks on your boot drive (disklabel -B da0)

And ONLY AFTER THAT you can complain about your problems.

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Hi all--

I've got a Cybex SwitchView 4 port Keyboard/Mouse/Monitor switcher
that I use with my boxes.  It works fine with FreeBSD 2.2.8-Release
and the *gulp* NT systems I have connected, but when I tried a 
FreeBSD 3.0-Release (after setting it up from the 3.0-Release CD
(November 1998) release, it doesn't see the mouse.  I've tried it with
the mouse installed on boot-up and then moving the cabling to use the
SwitchView, but I still get the error messages.

When I boot the box with the mouse through the Cybex SwitchView, I get:
-------------------------------------------------------------
. . . /kernel: mse0 not found at 0x23c
. . . /kernel: psm0 not found at 0x60
-------------------------------------------------------------
(I've re-compiled the kernel with the mse0 mouse option to see if the
Logitech or ATI mouse ports would fix the problem)

When I boot the box with the mouse, it comes up fine and when I startx
the mouse works fine, but when I change the cabling (so the mouse goes
through the SwitchView) I get this:
-------------------------------------------------------------
Fatal server error:
Cannot open Mouse (Input/output error)
. . . /kernel: psm0: failed to enable the device(doopen)
. . . /kernel: psm0: failed to enable the device(doopen)
Xconnection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown)
-------------------------------------------------------------

What can I do to fix this problem?  Should I cvsup the latest, then
make world it?

Any help is greatly appreciated,

Bryan
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Dear FreeBSD,

   Can 2.2.8 handle PCI ethernet cards instead of ISA?

   I notice that the kernel probes 
   device ed0 and isa? port 0x289 net irq 5 vector egintr

   but I have a 10/100 ethernet card which is PCI, and I can't find
any "port" settings for it.  

   What is the way to handle a PCI ethernet card?

   Is 3.0 the way?

Wayne M. Barnes, Ph.D.                        wayne@barnes1.wustl.edu
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Dear FreeBSD,    [ message CORRECTED in the line "device ... " ]

   Can 2.2.8 handle PCI ethernet cards instead of ISA?

   I notice that the kernel probes 
   device ed0 and isa? port 0x280 net irq 5 iomem 0xd8000 vector edintr

   but I have a 10/100 ethernet card which is PCI, and I can't find
any "port" settings for it.  

   What is the way to handle a PCI ethernet card?

   Is 3.0 the way?

Wayne M. Barnes, Ph.D.                        wayne@barnes1.wustl.edu
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"Wayne M. Barnes" wrote:
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> Dear FreeBSD,    [ message CORRECTED in the line "device ... " ]
> 
>    Can 2.2.8 handle PCI ethernet cards instead of ISA?

Certainly can... You mention your card is a 10/100 - what make is it? Do you
have any model details? - Or the name/number of the Chipset on it?

Depening on what type it is you will need to make sure firstly that it's
supported (a lot of PCI cards are), and secondly that you have a device driver
compiled in the kernel for it (we can't tell you why type of device until
we've identified the card :)

Regards,

Karl Pielorz

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On Wed, 3 Feb 1999, Dima Sivachenko wrote:

> I am deciding what version of FreeBSD to install to my computer.

If you can, wait a couple weeks and install 3.1-RELEASE. Otherwise, do a
network installation of 3.0-STABLE.

> I need the latest stable version.

That would be 3.0-STABLE. It's only available for download at the moment.

> So what is the difference between 2.2.8-RELEASE and 2.2.8-STABLE?

2.2.8-RELEASE is 2.2.8 as it was released on CD. 2.2.8-STABLE is
2.2.8-RELEASE with post-release bugfixes and additions. The 2.2 branch was
recently EOLed. 3.X is the new stable branch.

> Does 2.2.8-STABLE already have ELF support?

Not built-in. Use 3.0-STABLE or later for that.

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Mick

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I have a small network, which up to now been served by a farallon ISDN
router.  The farallon box supports address translation, allowing several
machines to share a single ISP account.

I have a DSL line on order, and I'd like to use a free bsd box (boxes?) to
do the same function as the ISDN router.  As I understand it the DSL line
has a ethernet RJ-45, and the terminus is assigned a static IP address.
Obviously the freebsd boxes would need two Ethernet NIC's.

My questions regard configuration:

1) Natd of course looks like it is just the solution.

2) Do I need an additional firewall with natd?  I couldn't
     tell for sure from the man pages

3) Do I need two machines?  (or should I have 2 machines?)
       I'd like to run a proxy server (squid?)
       I'd like to run a Pop3 and SMTP server
       I'd like to run dhcp server
     If I run these on the natd macvhine, will things get confused?
     Are there security implications that wants me to run these on the
        intranet?

4) Are there other network services I want to configure.

5) Are there any pioneers out there that can warn me about
the pitfalls I'm likely to encounter?

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"Wayne M. Barnes" wrote:
> 
> Dear Karl,
> 
>    Thank you for being available so fast.
> 
>     I think my card is Realtek 8139.
>     With a DOS setup program the card is set to I/O Base E800H and
> Interrupt 11.

After checking, the RealTek 8139 is only apparently supported in 3.0 onwards,
in which it appears as a 'rl' device...

You will need 3.0-RELEASE to get this card to work, it looks like the 'rl'
driver is in the standard Kernel that comes with 3.0-RELEASE (as are all the
PCI network drivers available by the look of it) so it should work OK from
boot...

Regards,

Karl

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Does anyone know of any graphical games for FreeBSD that would be
appropriate for a 2 year old??  Something with animals like horses,
cows, dogs,cats, chickens, etc would be perfect.

tia
dbk

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I had the same problem after an update.

Here's what I did:

1. cvsupped again.
2. cd /usr/src && make includes
3. rebuilt and installed world
4. rebuilt and installed kernel

Problem gone  :-)

Cheers,

Jerry Hicks
wghicks@bellsouth.net


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Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 06:48:12 -0500 (EST)

> 
> I recompiled the kernel also.
> 
> On Wed, 3 Feb 1999, voux wrote:
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> > After upgrade you need to recompile kernel.
> > 
> > On Wed, 3 Feb 1999, Jt wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > USER             TTY      FROM              LOGIN@  IDLE WHAT
> > > w: proc size mismatch (24920 total, 680 chunks): Undefined error: 0
> > > 
> > > Upgraded to 3.0 stable how can I fix this? Everthing else works fine.
> > > 
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please could u tell me more about installing a new boot block ??
I do not risk with this to damage the disk label eventually??

thanks

Rick


On Wed, 3 Feb 1999, Ruslan Ermilov wrote:

> On Wed, Feb 03, 1999 at 02:27:51PM +0100, Riccardo Veraldi wrote:
> > 
> > Hello,
> > I passwd form 3.0-RELEASE to 3.0-STABLE
> > I hve these troubles.
> > 
> > I did this.
> > 
> [...]
> > 
> > how I ahve to do ??
> > 
> > thanks
> > 
> > Rick
> 
> Hi!
> 
> You should (in the specified order):
> 
> 1. Rebuild your system (cd /usr/src && make world)
> 2. Rebuild your kernel (check /sys/i386/conf/LINT)
> 3. Install new boot blocks on your boot drive (disklabel -B da0)
> 
> And ONLY AFTER THAT you can complain about your problems.
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Trying to label the drives on a 3.0-STABLE box that has 7 drives connected
to 3 channels, on a DPT SmartRAID IV. All drives are identical with 2 on
each bus except bus 1 which has 3 drives.

------
da0 at dpt0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
da0: <IBM OEM DFHSS4S 4141> Fixed Direct Access SCSI2 device 
da0: Tagged Queueing Enabled
da0: 4119MB (8436988 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 525C)
da1 at dpt0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0
da1: <IBM OEM DFHSS4S 4141> Fixed Direct Access SCSI2 device 
da1: Tagged Queueing Enabled
da1: 4119MB (8436988 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 525C)
da2 at dpt0 bus 1 target 0 lun 0
da2: <IBM OEM DFHSS4S 4141> Fixed Direct Access SCSI2 device 
da2: Tagged Queueing Enabled
da2: 4119MB (8436988 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 525C)
da3 at dpt0 bus 1 target 1 lun 0
da3: <IBM OEM DFHSS4S 4141> Fixed Direct Access SCSI2 device 
da3: Tagged Queueing Enabled
da3: 4119MB (8436988 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 525C)
da4 at dpt0 bus 1 target 3 lun 0
da4: <IBM OEM DFHSS4S 4141> Fixed Direct Access SCSI2 device 
da4: Tagged Queueing Enabled
da4: 4119MB (8436988 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 525C)
da5 at dpt0 bus 2 target 0 lun 0
da5: <IBM OEM DFHSS4S 4141> Fixed Direct Access SCSI2 device 
da5: Tagged Queueing Enabled
da5: 4119MB (8436988 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 525C)
da6 at dpt0 bus 2 target 1 lun 0
da6: <IBM OEM DFHSS4S 4141> Fixed Direct Access SCSI2 device 
da6: Tagged Queueing Enabled
da6: 4119MB (8436988 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 525C)
------

However, I just can't put a label on da4 onwards.
da3 is no problem:

------
mimas:/ # disklabel -r da3
# /dev/rda3c:
type: SCSI
disk: da3s1
label: 
flags:
bytes/sector: 512
sectors/track: 63
tracks/cylinder: 255
sectors/cylinder: 16065
cylinders: 525
sectors/unit: 8436988
rpm: 3600
interleave: 1
trackskew: 0
cylinderskew: 0
headswitch: 0           # milliseconds
track-to-track seek: 0  # milliseconds
drivedata: 0 

8 partitions:
#        size   offset    fstype   [fsize bsize bps/cpg]
  a:  8436988        0    4.2BSD     1024  8192    16   # (Cyl.    0 -
525*)
  c:  8436988        0    unused        0     0         # (Cyl.    0 -
525*)
------

But da4, is:

$ disklabel da3 > /tmp/label
$ disklabel -R -r da4 /tmp/label
disklabel: ioctl DIOCWLABEL: Operation not supported by device

Why can I not alter the labels on da4-6 ?
Many thanks.

Mark Powell - System Administrator (UNIX) - Clifford Whitworth Building
A.I.S., University of Salford, Salford, Manchester, UK.
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Dan Langille wrote,
> I'm using /etc/syslog.conf to direct my dhcp messages to 
> /var/log/dhcp.log.  That works.  But the entries are being duplicated to 
> /var/log/messages.  I'm quite sure I need a facilty/program specified on 
> the /var/log/messages line of /etc/syslog.conf but I've not been able to 
> get it right.

[snip]

> Here's my /etc/syslog.conf.  I'm using 2.2.8-stable.
> *.*;mail.none;cron.none;kern.none;local0.none;ftp.none;auth.none;authpriv.n
> one;ntp.none /var/log/messages

Wow, you are logging _everything_ somewhere, huh? Someone else may be
able to tell you how to modify this line to cut the DHCP messages, but
I have had some experience with filtering my syslog.

I wanted to do something similar for my mail log. I have ~50 users
using POP and they leave their computers on all day checking their
mail every minute or every five minutes. All of the connect/disconnect
messages that generates makes it virtually impossible for a human to
look over the logs without first filtering them. Since I could not
care less about people successfully connecting from within out local
network, I filter those out from the start. Just piping to sed and
grep is problematic. Once started, syslog keeps the pipe open. It
causes problems when syslog rotates the logs and buffering causes the
logs not to necessarily be completely up to date.

I wrote a quick and dirtly little C program that reads one line and
rejects it if it matches a regex. I then appended the output to the
mail log. The line in the syslod.conf is,

mail.info				|/usr/local/bin/fltrmaillog 'Log (in|out) user=.* host=.*\[10.0.0]' >> /var/log/maillog

Here's the C code. HTH.

/*
** fltrmaillog - Filter Mail Log (CJC, 1/22/99)
**
** Usage: fltrmaillog regex
**
** Reads ONE LINE of the stdin, compares it to 'regex.'
** If the line matches, it is dropped. If it does not match
** it is returned as the stdout.
*/

#include <stdio.h>
#include <sys/types.h>
#include <regex.h>

#define MAX_LINE 8*1024

int main(int argc, char *argv[])
{
  char line[MAX_LINE + 1];
  regex_t fltr_regex;

  if ( argc != 2 )
    {
      fprintf(stderr,"%s: expects exactly 1 argument\n",argv[0]);
      return 1;
    }

  if ( regcomp(&fltr_regex,argv[1],REG_EXTENDED | REG_NOSUB) )
    {
      fprintf(stderr,"%s: error compiling regex: '%s'\n",argv[0],argv[1]);
      return 1;
    }

  fgets(line,MAX_LINE,stdin);
  if ( regexec(&fltr_regex,line,0,NULL,REG_NOTBOL | REG_NOTEOL) )
    fputs(line,stdout);

  return 0;
}

-- 
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----- Original Message -----
From: Forrest Howard <forrest@moosebear.com>
To: <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 1999 10:17
Subject: Using freebsd as a router for small network


|
|
|I have a small network, which up to now been served by a farallon ISDN
|router.  The farallon box supports address translation, allowing several
|machines to share a single ISP account.
|
|I have a DSL line on order, and I'd like to use a free bsd box (boxes?) to
|do the same function as the ISDN router.  As I understand it the DSL line
|has a ethernet RJ-45, and the terminus is assigned a static IP address.
|Obviously the freebsd boxes would need two Ethernet NIC's.
|
|My questions regard configuration:
|
|1) Natd of course looks like it is just the solution.

Why, of course.
|
|2) Do I need an additional firewall with natd?  I couldn't
|     tell for sure from the man pages
|
No. You do, however, need to add some firewall rules for divert sockets to
work, but the natd(8) manual page covers this. Also, as a network admin you
should apply other firewall rules (set in your /etc/rc.conf file) to protect
your network integrity. FreeBSD starts out as a generally secure Operating
System, but perhaps you should read the FreeBSD security How-To at
http://www.freebsd.org/~jkb/howto.html.

|3) Do I need two machines?  (or should I have 2 machines?)
|       I'd like to run a proxy server (squid?)
|       I'd like to run a Pop3 and SMTP server
|       I'd like to run dhcp server
|     If I run these on the natd macvhine, will things get confused?
|     Are there security implications that wants me to run these on the
|        intranet?
|
One machine can do for all, and natd will not get confused. Any security
implications are addressed above :)

|4) Are there other network services I want to configure.
|
A BIND name-server (from /usr/ports/net/bind) would be a good addition.

|5) Are there any pioneers out there that can warn me about
|the pitfalls I'm likely to encounter?
|
I'm sure those on this list will be able to help you out.

|Thank you in advance.
|
|Forrest
|
No problem,
-biv

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> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Forrest Howard [SMTP:forrest@moosebear.com]
> Sent:	Wednesday, February 03, 1999 11:17 AM
> To:	freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> Subject:	Using freebsd as a router for small network
> 
> 
> I have a small network, which up to now been served by a farallon ISDN
> router.  The farallon box supports address translation, allowing several
> machines to share a single ISP account.
> 
> I have a DSL line on order, and I'd like to use a free bsd box (boxes?) to
> do the same function as the ISDN router.  As I understand it the DSL line
> has a ethernet RJ-45, and the terminus is assigned a static IP address.
> Obviously the freebsd boxes would need two Ethernet NIC's.
> 
	I have a similar setup, except I currently use PPP over a modem,
instead of PPP.

> My questions regard configuration:
> 
> 1) Natd of course looks like it is just the solution.
> 
	I would agree, natd would perform the address translation.

> 2) Do I need an additional firewall with natd?  I couldn't
>      tell for sure from the man pages
> 
	Yes, you need to setup ipfirewall to redirect the packets to natd
(at least in 2.2.8 you do).

> 3) Do I need two machines?  (or should I have 2 machines?)
>        I'd like to run a proxy server (squid?)
>        I'd like to run a Pop3 and SMTP server
>        I'd like to run dhcp server
>      If I run these on the natd macvhine, will things get confused?
>      Are there security implications that wants me to run these on the
>         intranet?
> 
	No, one machine will do.  I run all of this on my machine without
any trouble at all.  The natd knows enough to distinguish between packets
that are going to the internal network and ones that are meant for the
FreeBSD machine.

> 4) Are there other network services I want to configure.
> 
	That depends on what you want to use the BSD box for.  I personally
have pop/imap/smtp, squid, telnet, ssh (I'm debating closing off telnet),
timed, named, and samba.

> 5) Are there any pioneers out there that can warn me about
> the pitfalls I'm likely to encounter?
> 
	The only pitfall(s) that I can think of are #1 the downtime to get
this all properly configured.  #2 your network to some degree will be
visible to the internet, although it's near impossible to get directly to
the internal machines w/o them initiating some kind of connection.  If you
setup a good set of rules on the firewall you will be just as secure as any
other machine on the internet.  (Safer if you consider that most people on
the internet are running some version of windoze these days  ;^P )

> Thank you in advance.
> 
> Forrest

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On 29 Jan, Greg Lehey wrote:
> On Thursday, 28 January 1999 at 21:10:06 -0500, EKuklajr@aol.com wrote:
>> My company is looking into re-writing our MS-DOS application as a Unix
>> application and i am seriously considering Open source projects such as
>> FreeBSD and Linux as our workstation OS.  Is there any study or data
>> indicating which release is the most stable for our Intel Pentium platforms?
>> Or are they equivalent?  Stability is important as our machines are toxic gas
>> monitors (running  24/7/365), and reliability is very VERY important.
> 
> I think that, compared to MS-DOS, both are incredibly stable.  As
> Jason says, it's difficult to make accurate comparisons.  One approach
> would be to port to both platforms: they're similar enough that this
> should be no more difficult than porting to just one.  For *real*
> reliablity, run one machine with each.  This would, incidentally, put
> you in the best position to ascertain the relative reliability of the
> systems for your particular application.

Hey Greg, What a clever answer, you are a real genius.
One thing is worth telling the author of the original message, it is
your job if you are going to go ahead with such a test, to insure that
NO BUGS in your own software that would trigger a crash on one system,
but fails to do the same for the other.

God help you man. (TOXIC WASTE), I hope that's not interfering with any
ozone layer or anything ;-)

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Hi there,
We all know by now that freebsd is one hell of an OS, and we hear every
now and then of success stories using this beasty, but does anyone know
if anyone in the FreeBSD world  is running a scanner and an OCR
(optical character Recognition) software.  I am typing in millions of
characters every year, and planning to put some books online in the
next few years, this would make my life PARADISE, and help me NUKE the
M$drive that I'm still keeping for:
1. M$ Word
2. M$ PowerPoint
3. Scanner Application & OCR.

Some time ago I have asked this list for scanner support, and for a
decent word processor, until I finish downloading the 60 Megs WP 8.0,
can't tell you that I am very happy.

On the Net, FreeBSD is a Real Giant, fast downloads, networking layer
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To Whom It May Concern:

Is NetBSD close in anyway to Unix SVR3.2/SVR4.0?  I have to program some
hardware.  The hardware manufacturer supports SVR3.2/4.0.  I could care less
if they support it.  I just want the hardware to run under NetBSD in a Alpha
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Adolfo Pisa Menendez wrote:

> I have many problems in may server getting the message on dmesg:
> 
> file: table is full
> 
> I have set the option
> OPEN_MAX=256
> in the kernel, but I still have problems.
> 
> Where can I know the effective number of open file at a moment.
> Where do I configure It.

Set maxusers to something high. The relationship between the max processes
and max open files to the maxusers setting is in /sys/conf/param.c.

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On Wed, 3 Feb 1999, Igor Sysoev wrote:

> > I try to build Dial-UP server on FreeBSD.
> > Is there any FAQs on that subject ?
> 
> At http://www.nitek.ru/~igor/pppd/ you can find
> how to setup pppd in Russian.
> 
Seems all the problems I had were connected with usage of cuaaX
instead of ttydX. By the way, do you know the difference between
cuaaX and ttydX ?

Also, I would like to ask you how can I initialize the line,
accually the modem with your Dial-UP server scenario ?

I have the internal modem [USR Sportser w/ FAX] which seems does not
remember his setup after save [AT&W].
Anyway, I'd like to do some modem initialization when getty starts.
I've used /etc/gettytab to make my own aka std.38400 with 'ic' string
which works pretty well with /dev/cuaaX but does not with /dev/ttydX.

You say that part "tuning the ports" is not ready on the web page,
I think this is what I need. Please, help me.

Thank you.

==
Yaroslav Terletsky



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Hi,

FreeBSD 2.2.6, Pentium, ample RAM.

When I log into a telnet session as ANY user it gives: 

------snip-------------------------------
You have mail.
csh: Permission denied: Permission denied
csh: Trying to start from "/home/user001"
% 
% pwd
pwd: Permission denied
%
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How do I debug/fix this?

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>    Anything less than 50% collision rate is okay and doesn't reduce the
> throughput significantly. All of the numbers below are in the noise.

I'd say that depends on the apps.  We had a production system running ESix
(early S5R4 implementation) that had an application that ran multicast,
using 486DX33 CPUs and SMC Elite16 NICs, on a coaxial net.

We started seeing severe collisions, well below the 50% rate, that
markedly impacted the reliability of the system.  We changed over to fully
switched 10BaseT (the previous tech director had a rabid fear of 10BaseT)
and the reliability problems went away completely.

Then again, I hate collisions so much that I run switched 100baseT at
home (got a great deal on an 8 port switch :-)  It's nice when the
harddrive on either end is the bottleneck for local FTPs.


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Does anybody know what happened to the www.vix.com/hylafax webpage.
I also tried connecting to www.hylafax.org without response.
About 2-3 days ago I had no problem connecting to these sites, just
wondering if these sites will be brought up again.
Is there any other site where I can find some info on Hylafax, especially
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Hi all!

I just wondered if there is any other location to get ips.txt from (to
build the database of the spammers) ?

--------------------
>r00t<@triton:/etc/mail# ls
Makefile                README                  sendmail.cf.additions
>r00t<@triton:/etc/mail# make
fetch ftp://ftp.gulf.net/pub/docs/ips.txt
fetch: ftp.gulf.net: Not logged in
*** Error code 74

Stop.
>r00t<@triton:/etc/mail# ftp ftp.gulf.net
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---------------------------

Any idea?

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I think I have a nice enhancement for lpr in case the file to be
printed resides on the same filesystem as the lpd spooling
directory and should be deleted after printing.

That really becomes interesting in combination with samba and
pcnfs (and maybe others) since they:

a) create temporay files which are removed after printing,
b) often have their spool area on the same fs as lpd.

Normally they invoke lpr with -r. So lpr copies the (temporary)
file and deletes it. After having been printed, lpd removes its
file also.

So why do we copy the file when it is removed afterwards? Since
especially our files here being printed via samba are rather big
(20MB and more) this consumes time for copying and temporary disk
space as well.

I have made a small patch for lpr.c which tries to move the file
if being called with -r. If that failes (maybe because the file
resides on a different fs), it continues normally.

I would like if someone could look into my patch if it contains
security holes or other flaws I haven't thought about. If this isn't
the case, maybe we could commit it to the main tree. (Yes, in that
case I would fix my style :-))

This code is now running here for about half a year and never produced
problems. The speed for printing large samba files significally
increased as well as the fs usage was reduced.

The patch is against a recent 3.0-STABLE but runs on 2.2.8 here.

*** usr.sbin/lpr/lpr/lpr.c.ORI	Wed Feb  3 19:13:57 1999
--- usr.sbin/lpr/lpr/lpr.c	Wed Feb  3 19:15:23 1999
***************
*** 370,375 ****
--- 370,393 ----
  		}
  		if (sflag)
  			printf("%s: %s: not linked, copying instead\n", name, arg);
+ 		if( f ) {		/* means that the file should be deleted */
+ 			seteuid(euid);	/* needed for rename() to succeed */
+ 			if( ! rename( arg, dfname ) ) {
+ 				register int i;
+ 				chmod( dfname, S_IRUSR | S_IWUSR | S_IRGRP | S_IWGRP );
+ 				chown( dfname, userid, getgrnam("daemon")->gr_gid );
+ 				seteuid(uid);
+ 				if (format == 'p')
+ 					card('T', title ? title : arg);
+ 				for (i = 0; i < ncopies; i++)
+ 					card(format, &dfname[inchar-2]);
+ 				card('U', &dfname[inchar-2]);
+ 				card('N', arg);
+ 				nact++;
+ 				continue;
+ 			}
+ 			seteuid(uid);
+ 		}
  		if ((i = open(arg, O_RDONLY)) < 0) {
  			printf("%s: cannot open %s\n", name, arg);
  		} else {


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On 3 Feb 99, at 21:34, Dan Langille wrote:

> I'm in the process of starting up a freebsd mirror site.  The port appears 
> to have installed correctly.  cvsupd was going out and asking for files.  
> It wasn't getting any because it was looking at freefall.freebsd.org and 
> it was not configured for my firewall.
> 
> So I've modified /usr/local/etc/cvsup/update.sh to include "-P -" to 
> select passive mode.  I've also changed /usr/local/etc/cvsup/config.sh to 
> include the following line:
> 
> host="cvsup.au.FreeBSD.org"
> 
> My problem is not knowing how to start cvsupd from the command line.
> 
> /usr/local/etc/rc.d/cvsupd.sh contains:
> 
> ! /bin/sh
> 
> if ! PREFIX=$(expr $0 : "\(/.*\)/etc/rc\.d/cvsupd\.sh\$"); then
>     echo "$0: Cannot determine the PREFIX" >&2
>     exit 1
> fi
> base=${PREFIX}/etc/cvsup
> out=/var/tmp/cvsupd.out
> 
> export PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:${PREFIX}/sbin
> umask 2
> 
> test -x ${PREFIX}/sbin/cvsupd || exit 1
> echo -n " cvsupd"
> cd ${base} || exit
> . ./config.sh || exit
> su -m ${user} -c \
>     "cvsupd -e -C ${maxclients} -l @${facility} -s sup.client" >>${out} 
> 2>&1
> 
> 
> But if I run it I get:
> 
> [root@ns:/usr/local/etc/rc.d] # ./cvsupd.sh 
> ./cvsupd.sh: Cannot determine the PREFIX
> 
> I'm assuming PREFIX should be /usr/local.  But that's as far as I can get.
> 
> cheers.
> 

I now have what I think is a solution.  I removed the first few lines of 
the shell.  mycvsupd.sh contains:

#! /bin/sh

base=${PREFIX}/etc/cvsup                                       
out=/var/tmp/cvsupd.out

export PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:${PREFIX}/sbin
umask 2

test -x ${PREFIX}/sbin/cvsupd || exit 1
echo -n " cvsupd"
cd ${base} || exit
. ./config.sh || exit
su -m ${user} -c \
    "cvsupd -e -C ${maxclients} -l @${facility} -s sup.client" >>${out} 
2>&1


running the script gives:

[root@ns:/usr/local/etc/rc.d] # ./mycvsupd.sh 
 cvsupd[root@ns:/usr/local/etc/rc.d] # ps -auws | grep cvsup


[root@ns:/usr/local/etc/rc.d] # ps -auwx | grep cvsup
root       188 56.1 17.4  1492 2472  ??  R     7:34AM   16:27.76 cvsup -
1gL 1 -c sup.client -h cvsup.au.FreeBSD.org -P - supfile.no
root       160  0.0  1.3   484  180  ??  Is    7:33AM    0:00.21 /bin/sh -
c /usr/local/etc/cvsup/update.sh
root       161  0.0  1.3   492  184  ??  I     7:33AM    0:00.39 /bin/sh 
/usr/local/etc/cvsup/update.sh
root       183  0.0  1.9   140  260  ??  I     7:33AM    0:00.14 lockf -t 
0 /var/spool/lock/cvsup.lock /bin/sh
cvsup      244  0.0  9.3   908 1312  ??  Is    8:01AM    0:00.12 cvsupd -e 
-C 8 -l @daemon -s sup.client
root       248  0.0  4.0   176  560  p1  R+    8:02AM    0:00.24 grep cvsup

So it looks like it's running.  But I doubt it has the correct settings.  
I have yet to test it as a server.  Any suggestions as to the cvsupd.sh 
script?

--
Dan Langille
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Hello!

Is there a danger in mixing

	libc_r.so.3 => /usr/lib/libc_r.so.3 (0x2805f000)
	libm.so.2 => /usr/lib/libm.so.2 (0x280ed000)
	libtcl80.so.1 => /usr/local/lib/libtcl80.so.1 (0x28107000)
	libreadline.so.3 => /usr/lib/libreadline.so.3 (0x2816a000)
	libtermcap.so.2 => /usr/lib/libtermcap.so.2 (0x2818c000)
	libutil.so.2 => /usr/lib/libutil.so.2 (0x28191000)
	libc.so.3 => /usr/lib/libc.so.3 (0x28199000)

with

	libctk80.so.1 => /usr/local/lib/libctk80.so.1 (0x28051000)
	libm.so.2 => /usr/lib/libm.so.2 (0x28086000)
	libncurses.so.3 => /usr/lib/libncurses.so.3 (0x280a0000)
	libtcl80.so.1 => /usr/local/lib/libtcl80.so.1 (0x280b1000)
	libc.so.3 => /usr/lib/libc.so.3 (0x28114000)
	libmytinfo.so.2 => /usr/lib/libmytinfo.so.2 (0x28194000)

in one executable? (Other the removing teh duplicates, of course).

Thanks!

	-mi

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Is anyone able to run netscape server under freebsd?

what is the version used and is it possible to build 'nsapi'
programs under it?  Who do i contact?

thank you very much.

-Alfred


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On Wed, 3 Feb 1999, Mayo O. wrote:

> As I don't have pockets so deep, I need to know where I can get a java
> compiler after I get the Operating System from FreeBSD.  Will I be able
> to download a free Java Compiler? 

Check out:
	http://www.freebsd.org/java/

>I need to partition my hard drive to
> accomodate the new O.S.  How do I do that without causing any problems
> with what I have alrready in my computer?

Try `fips'.

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What error do you get when you try to ping?  Does it time out? Can you
traceroute?

Stan Brown wrote:
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>         I am trying to get my first 3.0 machine set up. I am having a _very_
>         strange problem withe networking.
> 
>         I can telnet/ftp to machines on my local network. nslookup works to my
>         local nameserver. However I can't ping the local machines.
> 
>         Any sugestions where to look for this?
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Seen in FAQ that Smp support was stable since 3.0.

Have critical project soon. First crack with FreeBSD.
Need to have a recommendation from knowledgeble users as to which 
motherboard works best with FreeBSD which provides SMP support for
Pentium II chips at 450 Mhz? I'm looking for a rock solid 
match between FreeBSD and motherboard.

As well, the same question except now for RAID. Which one is the
best match between FreeBSD and SCSI Ultra Wide RAID array.
Would only require 2 SCSI 5-10 Gig drives now. Should be able to expand 
to about 10 drives in the future.

All comments/suggestions/leads welcomed.

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---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 13:48:35 -0600 (CST)
From: Eduardo Viruena Silva <mrspock@esfm.ipn.mx>
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Subject: Can two versions of FreeBSD coexist in a single disk?


Hello,

I have a hard disk with 2 slices in its partition table.  In the first one
I have FreeBSD 2.2.8 and I have not touched the second one for anything.

I received my FreeBSD 3.0 and I thought I could installed it  in the
second slice...

Everything worked ok during the installation.

When the installation process rebooted my machine, the first slice
had lost its disklabel entry... I could not boot from the first slice
anymore...

WHAT HAPPENED???

I did not make anything weird.  I swear!
Has anybody had the same problem?


			Eduardo Viruena




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Installing on 3.0-STABLE from sources/snaps as of 1-30/2-1 '99 time. I
have compiled my kernel, so linux-threads should be running.  I have
copied the ld-linux.so.2 into /compat/linux/lib.  Then I exported
(under bash) my path to the new lib files.  When I attempt the
'./setup  /net' I get an error of:

/tmp/sv001.tmp/setup.bin: error in loading shared libraries
libvos505li.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

Any ideas?

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OK you guys!!!

Nobody answered this, I guess you guys are getting old and slow, the answer is as follows:

I:

1. Rebooted into Single User mode (-s at the boot prompt).
2. mount -u /
3. chmod 755 /usr /var
4. reboot into Multi-User mode.;

Apparently my guy had created the directories (somehow) with excluding permissions and it was affecting things,even though the ls -ld on /usr said 755 when it was in Multi-user mode...

I looked in the archives and found something where someone told the other guy to redo the
whole partition with these symtoms...that would not have worked here (takes too long).

Take care,
Randy Katz

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> Hi,
> 
> FreeBSD 2.2.6, Pentium, ample RAM.
> 
> When I log into a telnet session as ANY user it gives: 
> 
> ------snip-------------------------------
> You have mail.
> csh: Permission denied: Permission denied
> csh: Trying to start from "/home/user001"
> % 
> % pwd
> pwd: Permission denied
> %
> ------snip-------------------------------
> 
> How do I debug/fix this?
> 
> Thank you,
> Randy Katz
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Hi,

I made a boot floppy yesterday after hearing many good things about your =
os. When rebooting the system some activity happened but after a minute =
or so a problem occured:

boot:
Booting 0:fd(0,a)kernel @ 0x284000
text=3D0x13e000 data=3D0x0 bss=3D0xa00 =
symbold=3D[+0x600+0x4+0x270+0x4+0x1f4]
total=3D0x3c346c entry point=3D0x284000
Uncompresing kernel...

crc error

 -- System halted


I tried the disk on two different computers, but...
If you have any advise to mail on howto straight things out, please do =
so. Wanna try this as fast as posible!

Thank's for your time,
Daniel (sweden)
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I have been running previous versions of FreeBSD for many years now
and have been able to run Linux programs such as acroread just fine,
however when I downloaded Star Office 5.0 (a full set of office
automation utilities which runs under Linux), I can't run the program
itself or the installation program ("setup").  I get:

	ELF binary type not known
	Abort

I'm wondering if I would have better luck running this under FreeBSD
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it doesn't help.

Please respond to me directly because I'm not on this mailing list.

Thanks for any help anyone can provide!

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"Christopher S. Weimann" wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Feb 02, 1999 at 08:37:08PM -0500, Malartre wrote:
> > But there is a 3com etherlink 3c905b in it. If disable the PnP option,
> > it should work OK, right?
> 
> I believe the 3c905b is a PCI card and therefore isn't exactly PnP
> and even if you could disable it you wouldn't want to.  If you really
> mean that the card is a 3c509 which is an ISA card you are definatly
> correct in wanting to disable the PnP.
> 
> --
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> Christopher Weimann SysAdmin            Wall Internet LLC.
> Email: cweimann@wallnet.com             PO Box 255
> Web: http://www.wallnet.com/~cweimann   Manasquan NJ, 08736
>                                         732-223-1777
> ------------------------------------------------------------
It was an error: the card is a 3c509b, ISA and PnP.
I will disable PnP tomorow and try an install via ftp through a
firewall.
Thank You
-- 
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is it possible to install freebsd on a mac classic or similar hardware?

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i'm trying to install freebsd on my 1.2g wd1 drive, (this is 2.2.6, it's =
all i got on
cd right now :P) and it reads the disk as having 2.0g and therefore =
locks up
from timeouts when it tries to write to the drive after i confirm the =
install.
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would perhaps trying 2.2.7 work? cause i know i installed 3.0 a while =
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> But if I run it I get:
> 
> [root@ns:/usr/local/etc/rc.d] # ./cvsupd.sh 
> ./cvsupd.sh: Cannot determine the PREFIX
> 
> I'm assuming PREFIX should be /usr/local.  But that's as far as I can get.
> 
Start it with /usr/local/etc/rc.d/cvsupd.sh (that is: include the
complete path) and it will know the prefix.
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Hello ,

I trying to install FreeBSD 3.0 via FTP , but have problem with PCI
Network Card ( D-Link dfe-530TX 10/100).
FreeBSD doesn't recogznize my card and writes me unsupported device,
how I can change configuration of PCI Card ? How I can change IRQ ?This card is in working
condition, because it works on Win98 well.

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On Wed, 3 Feb 1999, Florian Nigsch wrote:

> Hi all!
> 
> I just wondered if there is any other location to get ips.txt from (to
> build the database of the spammers) ?

Nope. The /etc/mail rules are broken...use the RBL support that comes with
sendmail 8.9.x. When I get a chance, I'll be submitting new /etc/mail
material so you can do this easily.

Cheers,
Mick

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When I open an xterm, my .profile is not sourced.
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BTW, this is 3.0R, running XFCE window manager on xfree86 .
Other window managers have the same problem.

What's the trick?

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Sorry, In my previous transmission, I meant to say:
When I open an xterm, my .profile is not sourced.
I have to manually type ". .profile" each time .

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No.

Look at:
NetBSD (http://www.netbsd.org)
OpenBSD (http://www.openbsd.org)

C

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I am trying to download the 3.0 stable, but it doesnt seem to have a 
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On Wed, 3 Feb 1999, bram wrote:

> is it possible to install freebsd on a mac classic or similar hardware?

No, FreeBSD only runs on i386 based machines. You can try NetBSD, OpenBSD,
or MKLinux though.

> 
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Newbie response:
You say that you have tried the disk on 2 different computers; have
you tried to make another disk?  I believe that the boot floppy cannot
have errors on it and work properly.  Try a new disk.

> Daniel Ahlquist wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I made a boot floppy yesterday after hearing many good things about
> your os. When rebooting the system some activity happened but after
> a minute or so a problem occured:
> 
> boot:
> Booting 0:fd(0,a)kernel @ 0x284000
> text=0x13e000 data=0x0 bss=0xa00
> symbold=[+0x600+0x4+0x270+0x4+0x1f4]
> total=0x3c346c entry point=0x284000
> Uncompresing kernel...
> 
> crc error
> 
>  -- System halted
> 
> 
> I tried the disk on two different computers, but...
> If you have any advise to mail on howto straight things out, please
> do so. Wanna try this as fast as posible!
> 
> Thank's for your time,
> Daniel (sweden)
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Ok, I have apache, I'm on a dialup access and I have a Dynamic DNS
account at nws.net (my address is "9.nws.net".
When I dial, I would like that ppp.linkup sync with Dynamic DNS and then
reload httpd to make him know my new address(I think I hardlinked my
address in httpd.conf to 9.nws.net):

# vi /etc/ppp/ppp.linkup
MYADDR:
 !bg sh -c "/usr/home/dyndns/regaddr 9 MYPASS"
 !bg sh -c "/usr/local/sbin/httpd"

or

# vi /etc/ppp/ppp.linkup
MYADDR:
 !bg sh -c "/usr/home/dyndns/regaddr 9 MYPASS && /usr/local/sbin/httpd"

But when I try to browse my site, it say that the server is not up and
running. The only thing I need to do is to reload httpd on the command
line:
# /usr/local/sbin/httpd
And then everything work.
What's the problem?
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where do i change the pointer to the "root web"
for apache 13  frontpage.


for some reason it got changed to a virtual web directory
and the only way i can get  it to go to the real 
root web is to comment out the virtual webs in my
httpd.conf. and restart apache.

i searched most of the /usr/local/frontpage directory for the config
stuff and cant find where the root web setting is located or how it is
even determined.

help!



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Chris Johnson wrote:
> 
> Has anyone had any luck getting FreeBSD 3.0 to run on Virtual PC? I know that
> people have reported in the past that they couldn't get it to work, but newer
> versions of FreeBSD and Virtual PC have come out in the meantime.
> 
> I'm able to boot off an image of the boot floppy, but depending on how I set up
> the drives in Virtual PC (you can make the CD either the secondary master or
> the primary slave), FreeBSD will either not see the hard drive or not see the
> CD. In no case does it seem to want to detect the ethernet card (which is
> supposed to emulate a PCI DEC 21041). I'd considered creating a DOS drive and
> installing off of that, but that still leaves me ethernet-less.
> 
> Are there any tricks to getting this thing working, or should I just give up?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Chris
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NetBSD work under the VirtualPC:
http://www.cs.mu.OZ.AU/tsa/projs/vpcbsd.html
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On Wednesday,  3 February 1999 at 16:43:23 +0000, Mark Powell wrote:
> Trying to label the drives on a 3.0-STABLE box that has 7 drives connected
> to 3 channels, on a DPT SmartRAID IV. All drives are identical with 2 on
> each bus except bus 1 which has 3 drives.
>
> ------
> da0 at dpt0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
> da0: 4119MB (8436988 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 525C)
> da1: 4119MB (8436988 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 525C)
> da2: 4119MB (8436988 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 525C)
> da3: 4119MB (8436988 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 525C)
> da4: 4119MB (8436988 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 525C)
> da5: 4119MB (8436988 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 525C)
> da6: 4119MB (8436988 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 525C)
>
> However, I just can't put a label on da4 onwards.
> da3 is no problem:
>
> But da4, is:
>
> $ disklabel da3 > /tmp/label
> $ disklabel -R -r da4 /tmp/label
> disklabel: ioctl DIOCWLABEL: Operation not supported by device
>
> Why can I not alter the labels on da4-6 ?

To answer the question in the Subject: line: DIOCWLABEL is an ioctl
call saying ``write disk label''.  There's no such underlying
operation on the device: it just writes in a particular place.  Before
considering it a bug in the DPT hardware or software, I'd be inclined
to check the major and minor numbers for your /dev/da* files, and to
run ktrace on the disklabel operation to find out which device
disklabel really tries to open.  If all appears correct, you should
submit a bug report.

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On Wed, 3 Feb 1999, Bill Hamilton wrote:
> From: Bill Hamilton <billh@finsco.com>
> 
> Sorry, In my previous transmission, I meant to say:
> When I open an xterm, my .profile is not sourced.
> I have to manually type ". .profile" each time .

Feed xterm a "-ls" flag. From the man page:

     -ls      This  option  indicates  that  the  shell  that  is
             started  in  the xterm window be a login shell (i.e.
             the first character of argv[0] will be a dash, indi-
             cating  to  the shell that it should read the user's
             .login or .profile).

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In message <36B8CDAF.FFDA59A4@finsco.com>, Bill Hamilton wrote:
} When I open an xterm, my .profile is not sourced.
} I have to manually type . .env (in ksh) each time.
} This may be one of those RTFM questions, but I don't see it.
} 
} BTW, this is 3.0R, running XFCE window manager on xfree86 .
} Other window managers have the same problem.
} 
} What's the trick?

/etc/profile and $HOME/.profile are sourced only if the shell is a "login
shell".  This is determined by whether argv[0] starts with a ``-'' or not,
and whether the shell is started with the ``-l'' command line option or not
(either/or will cause it to be considered a login shell).  

The straightforward way to get a login shell in an xterm is to start xterm
with the ``-ls'' command line parameter.  This is all buried in the
ksh(1) and xterm(1) man pages.


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On Wed, Feb 03, 1999 at 08:38:32AM +0000, David Knapp wrote:

> Does anyone know of any graphical games for FreeBSD that would be
> appropriate for a 2 year old??  Something with animals like horses,
> cows, dogs,cats, chickens, etc would be perfect.

thier are two (ok three) aproaches you could try .. 

a, write some yourself .. this seems to be teh prevailing "WISDOM".

b, digup some of teh old ms dos masterpieces and rejig tehm using OmniBASIC, 
available for freebsd (http://www.omnibasic.com)

c, digup some of teh old ms dos masterpieces (binaries) and run them using 
pcemu (by david headley) or teh current BSDi porting ms dos emulator.

regards

jonathan

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On Wed, 3 Feb 1999, Richard Johnson wrote:

> 
> I'm wondering if I would have better luck running this under FreeBSD
> 3.0?  I hate to spend the time right now to upgrade only to find that
> it doesn't help.
> 
> Please respond to me directly because I'm not on this mailing list.

See Richard Seaman's site:

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For the past several years I've used exmh-2.0.2, usually offline. It 
reads my mail out of the local mail spool /var/mail/dkelly, pushes it 
thru slocal, and into ~/Mail/ according to my .maildelivery rules.

Was running 3.0-current from November 8 until this weekend when I 
refreshed things with a "make world" of the latest RELENG_3. This 
brought in Sendmail 8.9.2, and my problem.

Now, unless I am dialed into the net and have a connection with my 
ISP's nameserver, exmh can not send mail to my own local Sendmail. The 
error is #451. Had that problem before and simply chopped those lines 
out of /etc/sendmail.cf and "cured" the problem. That doesn't work now.

Commenting out the rule which generates 451 messages results in a "553
Domain name required". And so on until I ran out of rules to comment
out.

Have manually added a DS to my sendmail.cf:

# "Smart" relay host (may be null)
DSmail.hiwaay.net

/usr/bin/mail works fine, online and off.

Am thinking if named were running then sendmail and/or mh can find what 
they are missing and things would work again. For full time connections 
simply running /etc/namedb/make-localhost and enabling named in rc.conf 
and listing 127.0.0.1 as a nameserver in /etc/resolv.conf is all it 
takes. When I attempt that on my dialup system, pppd spends about 
90 seconds (a nameserver lookup timeout?) before dialing.

One other thing, with dynamic IP addresses I've always been a little at 
loss as to what FQDN to assign my system. HiWAAY.net provides 
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On Wednesday,  3 February 1999 at 13:50:43 -0600, Eduardo Viruena Silva wrote:
> On Wed, 3 Feb 1999 13:48:35 -0600 (CST), Eduardo Viruena Silva <mrspock@esfm.ipn.mx> wrote:
>
> I have a hard disk with 2 slices in its partition table.  In the first one
> I have FreeBSD 2.2.8 and I have not touched the second one for anything.
>
> I received my FreeBSD 3.0 and I thought I could installed it  in the
> second slice...
>
> Everything worked ok during the installation.
>
> When the installation process rebooted my machine, the first slice
> had lost its disklabel entry... I could not boot from the first slice
> anymore...
>
> WHAT HAPPENED???

YOU OVERWROTE THE LABEL!!!

> I did not make anything weird.  I swear!  Has anybody had the same
> problem?

I suspect you allowed the partitions to overlap.  On the whole, it's
better to avoid (Microsoft) partitions and just use a UNIX partition
table.  For example, on my test machine I run 2.2-STABLE and
4.0-CURRENT.  I have divided the UNIX slice into the following
partitions (this is the output from disklabel -r sd0):

8 partitions:
#        size   offset    fstype   [fsize bsize bps/cpg]
  a:    81920   344064    4.2BSD        0     0     0   # (Cyl.  240*- 297*)
  b:   262144    81920      swap                        # (Cyl.   57*- 240*)
  c:  4226725        0    unused        0     0         # (Cyl.    0 - 2955*)
  e:    81920        0    4.2BSD        0     0     0   # (Cyl.    0 - 57*)
  f:  1900000   425984    4.2BSD        0     0     0   # (Cyl.  297*- 1626*)
  g:  1900741  2325984    4.2BSD        0     0     0   # (Cyl. 1626*- 2955*)

Partition a is the root partition for panic, the -CURRENT machine
Partition b is the swap partition for both machines
Partition e is the root partition for daemon, the -STABLE machine
Partition f is the /usr partition for daemon, the -STABLE machine
Partition g is the /usr partition for panic, the -CURRENT machine

To boot the machine, you just tell it which partition to load the
kernel from.

Greg
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Got real ambitious this weekend with a fresh "make world" of RELENG_3, 
an update to XFree86 3.3.3.1, and the US FreeBSD native version of 
Netscape Communicator 4.5 (replacing the US Linux version 4.07).

Now the dumb Communicator 4.5 pops up a window every few minutes 
informing me,

	Netscape is unable to use the mail server because 
	you have not provide a username. Please provide 
	one in the preferences and try again

I don't have any idea what they are talking about as most ever box is 
filled under Edit->Preferences->Mail & Newsgroups->Identity. And the 
same for Mail Servers where localhost is listed.

Tried a clean ~/.netscape directory. Didn't do any good.

Is it time to revert to the prior version?

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Under Both 2.2.8-STABLE and 3.0-STABLE

After installing WP8, (as root) I went to Preferences -> Files 
-> Graphics Fonts 

But Type 1 Directory is greyed out!  Why is this? How can I use something
other than crappy Courier!

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On Wed, 03 Feb 1999 at 19:42:08 -0600, David Kelly wrote:
> Got real ambitious this weekend with a fresh "make world" of
> RELENG_3, an update to XFree86 3.3.3.1, and the US FreeBSD native
> version of Netscape Communicator 4.5 (replacing the US Linux version
> 4.07).
> 
> Now the dumb Communicator 4.5 pops up a window every few minutes 
> informing me,
> 
> 	Netscape is unable to use the mail server because 
> 	you have not provide a username. Please provide 
> 	one in the preferences and try again
> 
> I don't have any idea what they are talking about as most ever box
> is filled under Edit->Preferences->Mail & Newsgroups->Identity. And
> the same for Mail Servers where localhost is listed.
> 
> Tried a clean ~/.netscape directory. Didn't do any good.
> 
> Is it time to revert to the prior version?
>

Nope.  All you need to do is the following..

Edit -> Preferences -> Mail & Newsgroups -> Mail Servers

Click the host in the Incoming Mail Servers box, then edit.  Add your
username for the mail server in there, and it should shut it up =)

Hope this helps,

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Has someone fixed this to work on FreeBSD.  The
author claims not to have access to a BSD system,
and I think all that needs to be done is to tell
it (configure) to find the threads libs in the right
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I bought a fujisu 10G ATA HD. fdisked and then cannot newfs it. Some can be
newfsed, some cannot and give me a input/output error.

It seems that it will newfs if I partitioned it into several small slice.
Look like you cannot create a single 10 G fs on the drive.

can FreeBSD able to support to create a fs larger or equal 10G?

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I'm having some adventures with my Apache server 
running on FreeBSD 2.2.8 (Celeron 333 w/cache,
256 MB RAM).  Some of my web users are unable to 
run banner rotation CGI scripts - they keep getting
messages like :

[Fri Jan 29 18:19:42 1999] [error] [client 209.122.252.24] 
(35)Resource temporarily unavailable: couldn't spawn child 
process: /u1/delay/www/centralad/getimage.cgi

(editted to fit).  httpd runs as user nobody, and I've
created a new class in /etc/login.conf called "web" and
assigned "nobody" to it (using "chsh nobody"). In the
definitions for class web I've set really high limits 
on maxprocesses and memoryuse, but it hasn't helped 
the problem - still get that blasted error message.

I suspect I'm overlooking something basic - anyone have
any pointers?  And while we're at it, what effect will
I see if I manipulate the limits on datasize, stacksize,
memoryuse, memorylocked, maxprocesses, amd openfiles?

FWIW, I *have* searched the mailing list archive, I
*have* put "limits -u unlimited" in my apachectl, and
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I am doing some  experiments in TCP that require some modifications to
the code. Namely, /netinet/tcp_timer.c
The problem is that I am not able to do any standard file I/O calls in
the TCP code because I was told that the kernel can't handle high level
I/O calls (stdio.h) .

All I need to do is open a file, write some stuff to it and then close
it. But I can't do any of this becuase the kernel will not build if
include stdio.h ??

Any idea ?

I am using FreeBSD 2.2.7

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On Wednesday,  3 February 1999 at 21:08:40 -0500, Mohamed Abdel-Aal wrote:
> I am doing some  experiments in TCP that require some modifications to
> the code. Namely, /netinet/tcp_timer.c
> The problem is that I am not able to do any standard file I/O calls in
> the TCP code because I was told that the kernel can't handle high level
> I/O calls (stdio.h) .
>
> All I need to do is open a file, write some stuff to it and then close
> it. But I can't do any of this becuase the kernel will not build if
> include stdio.h ??

This is probably a question for -hackers, but let's take a quick look
at it first.

The reason why you can't build the kernel with user-level calls is
simply because no mechanism exists to service these calls within the
kernel.  One way to handle this is to have a user process reading the
data from the kernel and then writing it to the file.  Create a dummy
driver which blocks waiting for data from your tcp code, and read it.

Greg
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On Wed, 3 Feb 1999, Malartre wrote:

[...]
> But when I try to browse my site, it say that the server is not up and
> running. The only thing I need to do is to reload httpd on the command
> line:
> # /usr/local/sbin/httpd
> And then everything work.
> What's the problem?

I suspect that your ISP needs some time for the DNS to note the change
in the IP address. If you put a `sleep 5' (you may need to increase
the time), that should solve the problem.

Cheers.
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I've just installed FreeBSD on a new machine (I've got it on 3 others) and
am having a minor problem.

I installed via ftp yesterday (from the ftp.freebsd.org site) and installed
everything with no source. I then downloaded the stable-supfile from the
examples within the 3.0-stable source tree and used it with cvsup to sync
up my /usr/src tree. After doing so I attempted to build a custom kernel. I
built the kernel per the instructsions and installed it. When I rebooted I
got a neat little "Invalid format!" error when it tries loading the kernel.

Just in case there was something silly causing it I did a 'make world' and
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with no errors) and installed it. I get the same thing upon reboot.

Any ideas?

Matt

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On Tue, Feb 02, 1999 at 06:20:56PM -0800, rick hamell wrote:
> > I would like to install freebsd onto a dedicated machine (which doesn't
> > have a cdrom) over my home peer to peer network. I have two windows95
> > machines connected through a hub. How do I get the freebsd machine to
> > install from the freebsd cdrom in the windows95 machine.
> 
> 	Well, I think you'll it'll be easiest for you to install the 
> CDROM in to the FreeBSD machine. Other wise you're going to have to find 
> and install a third party FTP server software for Win95 (If such a thing 
> exists,) and see if Win95 will be smart enough to figure out that it's 
> supposed to be sending files. :)
> 
> 						Rick
> 

Well, with a cross-over ethernet, you may be able to connect the two
togerther, setting up the win box as a ftp server.  Use whatever IP
address you want, but use 255.255.255.255 as the netmask.  I'm not
sure what the file structure needs to be tho for a ftp server.

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Sorry for posting this again but I have not got a response,

I have ported some kde applications and quake stuff to FreeBSD
but I can't have a "PORT" because the changes to the actual code are
too messy, but I can have a "PACKAGE" to pkg_add ...
There is not info on submitting a "PACKAGE" ...there is for a port
but not for a "PACKAGE"

Thank you
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Can anyone tell me what models of DPT RAID controllers are supported by
2.2.8-STABLE and 3.0-STABLE?

We're in the market for moderately large raid storage (rack mounted) and
the DPT cards seem a usable solution.

Please CC me direct on the reply.

Carl.



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i noticed that if the cdrom is already
mounted it cannot find it.

try creating a book disk and booting from it.



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Subject: Absolute newbie to BSD

Hi Khetan...Warren here

I've recently decided to see what BSD is all about. I have no idea if you
have a mailing list that exists for absolute newbies or not, but I am
having a problem installing BSD 2.2.2. I realise that new BSD versions
exist, but would like to see how it looked and worked back then, before
installing BSD 2.2.7. The problem I'm having is the following:

My bios is set to boot up from cd...this works fine. I ge the BSD boot
page, showing me all the components as they are installing. It then runs
through to the installation pages (asking to perform the "fdisk
equivalent, choosing whether you want all the ports, etc..then it asks
where you would like to install from...I select cdrom installation. It
then says it can't find my cd-rom. 

The question is: what am i doing wrong ? why does it detect my cd on
bootup, but not in the actual FreeBSD environment ?

Hope you can help

Thanks

Warren



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From: Lorenzo Varela <lvarela@caribcom.net>
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Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 23:34:54 -0400

> Sorry for posting this again but I have not got a response,
> 
> I have ported some kde applications and quake stuff to FreeBSD
> but I can't have a "PORT" because the changes to the actual code are
> too messy, but I can have a "PACKAGE" to pkg_add ...
> There is not info on submitting a "PACKAGE" ...there is for a port
> but not for a "PACKAGE"

Why would anyone want that?  Sources please  :-)

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All;

I would like to know what is the best upgrade path to 3.0-stable. I am
running 2.2.6 stable. Should I simply upgrade to 3.0-stable? Or should I
start from scratch? I don't have too much info and it would be really easy
to start over. Any recommendations will be greatly appreciated.

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On Thursday,  4 February 1999 at 15:10:15 +1100, Carl Makin wrote:
>
> Can anyone tell me what models of DPT RAID controllers are supported by
> 2.2.8-STABLE and 3.0-STABLE?

Yes.  You could, if you read the messages passing by on this list.
This question was last asked yesterday.

> We're in the market for moderately large raid storage (rack mounted) and
> the DPT cards seem a usable solution.

They look like the only game in town for direct RAID controllers.
SmartCACHE III and SmartCACHE IV.  There's also a driver for the
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> # Compaq are actually DPT controllers.

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Hi there!  I'm having real trouble running X Windows.  First of all, 
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i would like to know how to make 'notifiy mail'
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> From: ts@polynet.lviv.ua
> 
> On Wed, 3 Feb 1999, Igor Sysoev wrote:
> 
> > > I try to build Dial-UP server on FreeBSD.
> > > Is there any FAQs on that subject ?
> > 
> > At http://www.nitek.ru/~igor/pppd/ you can find
> > how to setup pppd in Russian.
> > 
> Seems all the problems I had were connected with usage of cuaaX
> instead of ttydX. By the way, do you know the difference between
> cuaaX and ttydX ?

http://www.nitek.ru/~igor/pppd/freebsd.html#cuaa

> Also, I would like to ask you how can I initialize the line,
> accually the modem with your Dial-UP server scenario ?
> 
> I have the internal modem [USR Sportser w/ FAX] which seems does not
> remember his setup after save [AT&W].
> Anyway, I'd like to do some modem initialization when getty starts.
> I've used /etc/gettytab to make my own aka std.38400 with 'ic' string
> which works pretty well with /dev/cuaaX but does not with /dev/ttydX.

If you will see my url you will know why 'ic' doesn't work with ttydX.
So you need to run by cron such script instead:

-----
#!/bin/sh

chat -V				\
	""		"AT"		\
	"OK"		"ATZ"		\
	"OK"		"ATS0=1"	\
	"OK"		""		\
< /dev/cuaa1 > /dev/cuaa1
-----

Note in this script you have to use cuaaX.
This script can be modified to set autoanswer
and to disable it.

> You say that part "tuning the ports" is not ready on the web page,
> I think this is what I need. Please, help me.

I hope to complete soon.

With best regards,
Igor Sysoev


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On Wed, Feb 03, 1999 at 09:21:08PM -0700, Max wrote:
> All;
> 
> I would like to know what is the best upgrade path to 3.0-stable. I am
> running 2.2.6 stable. Should I simply upgrade to 3.0-stable? Or should I
> start from scratch? I don't have too much info and it would be really easy
> to start over. Any recommendations will be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Thank you all in advance...
> 
> -Max

I would suggest you upgrade to the 2.2.8-STABLE first,
then upgrade to 3.0-STABLE.

All you need is:

http://www.nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk/FreeBSD/make-world/make-world.html
http://www.ucb.crimea.ua/~ru/FreeBSD/30upgrade.html

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At 02:42 PM 2/3/99 PST, Thad Anderson wrote:
>I am trying to download the 3.0 stable, but it doesnt seem to have a 
>complete directory structure.  could someone please help me.

You could look at http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/handbook269.html, but all
I have to say is good luck.  I can't figure out how to upgrade to -STABLE
either, which is why I'm writing, actually... Since my FreeBSD machine
isn't networked, my only option is CTM, but I really can't figure it out.
Is there a way to just install -STABLE from the start (as opposed to a
-RELEASE)?  At this point, redoing an installation would be _MUCH_ easier
than trying to figure out CTM.  Thanks!


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> please could u tell me more about installing a new boot block ??
> I do not risk with this to damage the disk label eventually??
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I am currently having trouble getting my generic OPL3-sa sound card to
detect and run. I added 'controller pnp0' and the YAMAHA line appears on
boot, but i do not know what other lines must be added to enable the
support for the card. Previously in Win95 it was set to a port of 0x220
irq of 5 and a dma of 5.

any information would be greatly appreciated.

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Ferb wrote:
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> I am currently having trouble getting my generic OPL3-sa sound card to
> detect and run. I added 'controller pnp0' and the YAMAHA line appears on
> boot, but i do not know what other lines must be added to enable the
> support for the card. Previously in Win95 it was set to a port of 0x220
> irq of 5 and a dma of 5.
> 
> any information would be greatly appreciated.
> 

Have you enabled the pcm driver (and commented out all the sb*
devices) in your kernel config file?.


Also you may need to ``boot -c'' and set the up the card, e.g. pnp 1 0
os enables irq 0 5......etc.

HTH

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Hello,

Until now I have been running one Stallion EasyConnection 8/64 without any
problems.  I have just added a second panel on the existing host adaptor.
At startup the stli drive reports nrpanels=2 nrports=32 which is
correct and stlload -v also reports 32 ports.

When a load a terminal program, it inits the first panel ok but I can't
access the modems plugged into that first panel.  The second panel doesn't
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Any suggestions?

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On Thu, 4 Feb 1999, Igor Sysoev wrote:

> If you will see my url you will know why 'ic' doesn't work with ttydX.
> So you need to run by cron such script instead:
> 
> -----
> #!/bin/sh
> 
> chat -V				\
> 	""		"AT"		\
> 	"OK"		"ATZ"		\
> 	"OK"		"ATS0=1"	\
> 	"OK"		""		\
> < /dev/cuaa1 > /dev/cuaa1
> -----

Can I run this script somehow different? Cos I'd like to be cron
independed. I'd like this script to be run somwhere in between
getty and pppd, so I could control everything thru /etc/ttys.

Could this to be a 'connect' script in options.ttydX or something like
that ?

==
Yaroslav Terletsky


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  Hello

 /opt partition is under our Alpha's Digital unix. It's an instalation
directory for our Magneto Optic disk 2.3GB. 

 Dovydas

Mike Meyer wrote:
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> I've only seen it on Solaris systems. Seems to be their answer to
> having a place for optional packages. Of course, there's also a
> /usr/opt as well.
> 
> I can't see much point in doing it. It'd have been nice if the
> packages/ports collections had built to /usr/opt so that /usr/local
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> freebsd-local, but it's a bit late for that.
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> From: ts@polynet.lviv.ua
> On Thu, 4 Feb 1999, Igor Sysoev wrote:
> 
> > If you will see my url you will know why 'ic' doesn't work with ttydX.
> > So you need to run by cron such script instead:
> > 
> > -----
> > #!/bin/sh
> > 
> > chat -V				\
> > 	""		"AT"		\
> > 	"OK"		"ATZ"		\
> > 	"OK"		"ATS0=1"	\
> > 	"OK"		""		\
> > < /dev/cuaa1 > /dev/cuaa1
> > -----
> 
> Can I run this script somehow different? Cos I'd like to be cron
> independed. I'd like this script to be run somwhere in between
> getty and pppd, so I could control everything thru /etc/ttys.
> 
> Could this to be a 'connect' script in options.ttydX or something like
> that ?

No.
1. You can run it at starup in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/.
2. You can run it by cron every 10 minutes or so.
3. If you don't use cron you should use mgetty instead of getty.

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> 2. Is there a port for Real Audio Yet?
  i installed two of them 3.0 & 5.0. And it was days when 3.0 worked to
me. But now i cant manpulate buttons with mose.
  5.0 says that it cannot work with compresed data... and brings an
error mesage after it... And seems so was yesterday 'cause i upgraded my
FreeBSD to 2.2.8 Now message appears another - ELF binary type not
known. Brandelf rvplayer --> has no branding.

  Someone nows how to run this thing?

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On Thu, 4 Feb 1999, Igor Sysoev wrote:

> > Can I run this script somehow different? Cos I'd like to be cron
> > independed. I'd like this script to be run somwhere in between
> > getty and pppd, so I could control everything thru /etc/ttys.
> > 
> > Could this to be a 'connect' script in options.ttydX or something like
> > that ?
> 
> No.
> 1. You can run it at starup in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/.
I like this Idead !

> 2. You can run it by cron every 10 minutes or so.
> 3. If you don't use cron you should use mgetty instead of getty.
I use cron but I did not want to depend on it in this case.

Thank again.

==
Yaroslav Terletsky


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Matt Liu wrote:
> 
> I bought a fujisu 10G ATA HD. fdisked and then cannot newfs it. Some can be
> newfsed, some cannot and give me a input/output error.
> 
> It seems that it will newfs if I partitioned it into several small slice.
> Look like you cannot create a single 10 G fs on the drive.
> 
> can FreeBSD able to support to create a fs larger or equal 10G?
> 
> I tried change geometry setting in the sysinstall fdisk screen. it does not
> help.

You failed to mention what version of FreeBSD you are using. There
are many around, y'know... :-) I'm even amazed at how many bugs are
reported for 2.2.7 and earlier...

A "bug" is a "bug" if it exists in the most up to date -stable
version of FreeBSD. Well, right now there are 3.0-STABLE and
2.2.8-STABLE, so things are a little bit more muddier. Generally
speaking, I'd say the more up to date 2.2.8-STABLE, unless you are
already on the 3.0 branch.

Back to the question, I seem to recall a patch for >8Gb being
applied to 2.2.8-STABLE. That's *not* the 2.2.8-RELEASE, the one
that came on the CD-ROM. That's *after* the -release, which you can
get on the Internet, by using cvsup, for instance. Check the
handbook if you have any questions about this.

So, if you are already running the latest 2.2.8-stable, and still
have the problem, could you provide us with the other thing you
forgot, namely the error messages? 

Last, but not least, this question is really more appropriate for
-questions than -hackers.

--
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a mammal be and still have respiratory functions?



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I've just tired to mount a DEC OSF/1 install-CD on my UltraPleX SCSI CDROM
(Tried both cd9960 and ufs filesystems). I didn't succeed and got the
following messages: 

Feb  4 11:37:14 nv4 /kernel: cd1(ahc0:3:0): NOT READY asc:3a,1
Feb  4 11:37:14 nv4 /kernel: cd1(ahc0:3:0): NOT READY asc:3a,1
Feb  4 11:37:41 nv4 /kernel: cd0(ahc0:2:0): data overrun of 16777215 bytes detected in Data-In phase.  Tag == 0x1.  Forcing a retry.
Feb  4 11:37:41 nv4 /kernel: cd0(ahc0:2:0): Have seen Data Phase.  Length  = 1024 .  NumSGs = 1.
Feb  4 11:37:41 nv4 /kernel: sg[0] - Addr 0xe40400 : Length 1024

 However, there were no problems when I 'cat'-ted the contents of the CD
into /dev/null. (Just to see if there are any reading problems.) 
 A minute later the machine resetted, and I'm almost sure that it
happened because of the problems I mentioned above.
 Do you have some idea what happened and what do these messages mean? I
wonder why can some problem with a CD (both IDE and SCSI) bring FreeBSD
down on his knees so easily. 

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On Thu, 4 Feb 1999, Niklas Saers wrote:

> Hi. We've got a DLT-tapedrive and four FreeBSD-boxes which we want to take
> backup of. The DLT-tape can store 15 GB uncompressed, and our disks are
> 8+4+2+1=15 Gb in total, filled up about a third, so there should be more
> than enough. Now I wish to dump them all to the streamer and make dayly
> incrementals. BUT, dump seems only to be able to handle one filesystem pr
> tape. So I'm quite sure I've misunderstood something here. What programs
> should I use to dump all my file systems on my four computers over to the
> DLT-drive and run incrementals on them?

First, this type of message belongs on -questions, no -stable (redirected).
Second, when dumping multiple FS's on a single tape, are you using the
non-rewinding device for the tape (/dev/nrst0, I presume)?
Third, if you have multiple machines you want to backup to a single tape,
you should probably take a look at amanda. It's in the ports collection,
and you may first want to read all about it at:
http://www.cs.umd.edu/projects/amanda/amanda.html

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Under AX4.1, if I type 'xvidtune' in a xterm window
there will be an error message.

I do not want to tune the buttons on my CRT because
under windoze-95 I have to adjust that again.

Any ideas?

Thanx !

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Hi all

I've got the problem setting session limit for my dialup account.
As a test I've set sessionlimit to 3m but user can work much over it.
What I need is just fixed session time, e.g 33m and allow to dial-up
only from 6pm till 7am.

Can anyone help me to construct these rules ?
Thanks in advance.

PS I did rebuild login.conf database and even rebooted machine.

=====
user: ppp
class: subppp

login.conf entries:
[...]
dialer:\
        :hushlogin:\
        :requirehome@:\
        :cputime=unlimited:\
        :filesize=2M:\
        :datasize=2M:\
        :stacksize=4M:\
        :coredumpsize=0:\
        :memoryuse=4M:\
        :memorylocked=1M:\
        :maxproc=16:\
        :openfiles=32:\
        :tc=standard:

subscriber|Subscribers:\
        :accounted:\
        :refreshtime=180d:\
        :refreshperiod@:\
        :sessionlimit@:\
        :expireperiod=180d:\
        :graceexpire=7d:\
        :gracetime=10m:\
        :warnexpire=7d:\
        :warnpassword=7d:\
        :idletime=30m:\
        :sessiontime=3m:\
        :daytime=20h:\
        :weektime=80h:\
        :monthtime=220h:\
        :warntime=4h:\
        :tc=standard:

subppp|PPP Subscriber Accounts:\
        :tc=dialer:\
        :tc=subscriber:
[...]



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On Thu, 4 Feb 1999, Greg Lehey wrote:

> > Why can I not alter the labels on da4-6 ?
> 
> To answer the question in the Subject: line: DIOCWLABEL is an ioctl
> call saying ``write disk label''.  There's no such underlying
> operation on the device: it just writes in a particular place.  Before
> considering it a bug in the DPT hardware or software, I'd be inclined
> to check the major and minor numbers for your /dev/da* files, and to
> run ktrace on the disklabel operation to find out which device
> disklabel really tries to open.  If all appears correct, you should

Dohh. You're right. I did ktrace them, but obviously wasn't paying
attention. On the failing command:

  2208 disklabel RET   execve 0
  2208 disklabel CALL  open(0x8068030,0x2,0x5)
  2208 disklabel NAMI  "/dev/rda6c"
  2208 disklabel RET   open -1 errno 2 No such file or directory
  2208 disklabel CALL  open(0x8068030,0x2,0x5)
  2208 disklabel NAMI  "/dev/rda6"
  2208 disklabel RET   open 3

On the successful:

  2211 disklabel RET   execve 0
  2211 disklabel CALL  open(0x8068030,0x2,0x5)
  2211 disklabel NAMI  "/dev/rda3c"
  2211 disklabel RET   open 3

Quick MAKEDEV put the neccesary devices back in. Quite why they were there
for da[0-3] and not da[4-6] is still a mystery.
Cheers for the help.

Mark Powell - System Administrator (UNIX) - Clifford Whitworth Building
A.I.S., University of Salford, Salford, Manchester, UK.
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Hello,
where is possible to get the latest port update ??
getting it with cvsup tag=. is not updated to the last one

Rick



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Greg Lehey wrote:

> How to get the best results from FreeBSD questions.
> ===================================================
>
> Last update 23 February 1998
>
> This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD questions mailing list.  If

A small point.  I've been lurking on this list for a while to see what I can learn, and seen all the usual 'friendly' banter associated with off-topic posts, dumb quesitons, etc., that makes mailing lists such fun and friendly places
to be.  ;o}

One thing I've not seen, however, is an URL for the archives.  This list *is* archived, I take it?  Is so, where?  Might I suggest that the URL be included in the info-post, in the interests of promoting self sufficiency, and
minimising frustration for all concerned?

Ok, TIA.

Best wishes

G.

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I'm trying to print out the api docs on Kerberos 5 from the ports.
The basic docs are already rendered into postscript (.ps), so
no problem. However, the API docs are still in TeX. I found and
loaded what seems to be the right laTeX, which got me part way
through producing the .ps files, but it dies when trying to run
something called "index" - I loaded "makeindex", which seemed
logical, but that didn't seem to help. Anyone know where I can
find "index"? - Thanks.



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Hi,

My name is Jonathan Eggers, I am a student at the University of Rochester.
Currently I am the Lab Director for the Computer Interest Floor, a special
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> 
> Hi,
> 
> My name is Jonathan Eggers, I am a student at the University of Rochester.
> Currently I am the Lab Director for the Computer Interest Floor, a special
> floor designed to help introduce new technology into the school.  Among
> other things we teach html classes, computer building classes, email
> classes (you wouldn't think we need to, but...), most importantly we run a
> computer lab.  The entire lab is operated and supported by students,
> including the computers and software.
> 
> Currently our main server, Roundtable, is running FreeBSD 2.2.8 and the
> thought of upgrading to 3.0 has been highly recommended to me by both my
> Security Admin and System Admin.
> 
> So I am inquiring about a student rate or a non-profit rate that may be
> available.  If this is not the correct email address please respond with
> the correct one or any other information you think may be helpful.
> 
> Thank You,
> Jonathan Eggers
> 

 Jonathan...

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   See http://www.freebsd.org for more information.

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Hello,

I am looking for a good PCI 56K V.90 modem (internal if possible) that will work
with FreeBSD 2.2.8 as well as with Win95 (2 OS on the same HD). My reseller doesn't
know any thing about Unix (!). I don't know what to buy... I have been told that
with juppers, I would have to switch settings each time a boot in the other OS...
This is crazy if I have to open the box each time!!!!


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I have a USR (3Com) Courier which works fine in FreeBSD.  No jumpers to
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I also find it hard to believe that you'd need to mess with jumpers
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Does FreeBSD support the PAM (pluggable authentication module) API?

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peter kok wrote,
> Hello
> 
> i would like to know how to make 'notifiy mail'
> to dedicated person or root
> when the system has some problems

I am not sure I understand exactly what ''notify mail'' is. I assume
you want the system to notify someone via email where there are
critical system errors? This can be done with syslog. For example, you
could have a line like:

*.emerg		  |mail -s "$HOST EMERGENCY Message" emerg_list

Where 'emerg_list' is a alias on the local machine with the email
address of the people you want to notify.

One caution, now that I think about it, that may not work properly. I
don't think syslog will send an EOT to mail. You may need to put some
program in front of mail that will read one line of input and then
pass it to mail. Then it would look more like,

*.emerg		 |/usr/local/libexec/syslog_mail.sh -s "$HOST EMERGENCY Message" emerg_list

If you put it all in a shell script.
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Hi,

I have three questions:

1. Does anyone know which release of bsd includes the dummynet
implemention?

2. I want to upgrade my systems (now is 2.2.6&7) to stable. I read the
tutorial for upgrading /usr/src, but I donot know how to upgrade
ports-all.

3. I want to modify /usr/src so that I want to keep a local CVS
repository. Can I use CVSup to check /usr/src to my CVS directly and use
CVSup to check out from my CVS?

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I was wondering if someone could tell me the line I need to put in my
sendmail.cf to enable virtual users.  I've created /etc/virtusers and
run makemap hash virtusertable.db, etc.  but I can't figure out which
line needs to be inserted to tell sendmail to use the file.
I've tried the stuff in the virtual hosting section of
www.sendmail.org, but it only mentioned a bunch of m4 stuff that didn't
work for me.  I also found somewhere something that suggested adding
Kvirtualusertable hash -o /etc/virtusertable.db but that also doesn't
seem to have worked.

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sendmail.cw contains domain.com

and 
/etc/virtuser contains
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user2@domain.com	otheruser2

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root@isis.dynip.com wrote,
> Hi there people,
> I am thinking to create majordomo mailing list for Newbies (i.e. people
> who are still wrapped in Nylon), and don't know anything about anything
> in FreeBSD, and Unix in general.
> Anyone think this is a good idea ??
> Thanks.

You are going to get a zillion responses, but...

That mail list does already exist.

Send majordomo@freebsd.org a message containing only 'lists' for a
list of all mail lists.
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I have been given to understand that the P II is inherently a dual
processor, and that under most if not all (ms) operating systems the
second processor will idle. The question is what if anything need to be
done during or after an initial FreeBSD installation needs to be done to
have a functioning dual processor system?


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Randy Martin wrote:
> 
> Does FreeBSD support the PAM (pluggable authentication module) API?

AFAIK it's in 3.0-RELEASE onwards...

-Kp

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This is more of an XFree86 or straight X question, but since a lot of
you may have configured this for FreeBSD yada-yada....

1) I am having trouble configuring the xlogin screen that xdm starts the
way I want. I have been able to change fonts and colors, but there is
one problem I have been having with the text. I cannot seem to be able
to sneak in a newline. What annoys me, is that what works on the SGIs
does not work on the FreeBSD machines. The SGIs have,

xlogin*greeting:        Welcome to %H\n\
IRIX %R

In the Xresources file for xdm. This makes a nice,

                       Welcome to indy
                          IRIX 5.3

Where 'indy' is the hostname -s, and 5.3 is the IRIX version, both
subsituted in by %-escapes.

Well, on FreeBSD, the %-escapes do not work, which I can live with. I
can use 'CLIENTHOST' to get the hostname (but how do I get the short
hostname?). But I cannot seem to get a newline in there. I have tried
using,

xlogin*greeting:        Welcome to CLIENTHOST\n\FreeBSD 2.2.8

xlogin*greeting:        Welcome to CLIENTHOST\n\
FreeBSD 2.2.8

xlogin*greeting:        Welcome to CLIENTHOST\012\FreeBSD 2.2.8

xlogin*greeting:        Welcome to CLIENTHOST\012\
FreeBSD 2.2.8

All of which just give me,

            Welcome to freebsd.mydomain.org FreeBSD 2.2.8

How do I get that \n in there?

2) On this same screen, I have been unsuccessful in modifying the
geometry of the xconsole. I can change the foreground and background
colors of the xconsole just fine, so I know the Xresources are being
used. But no matter what values I might use for XConsole.geometry
I cannot change the size or the position of the xconsole. I would like
to have a small xconsole in the upper-left corner rather than the
lower-right default,

XConsole.geometry:	430x90+0+0

But after adding this and restarting xdm, no change.

Anyone been able to do these things? Thanks in advance.
-- 
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I've got a few varieties of error messages in my system log that I don't know 
how to interpret.  Perhaps someone can tell me what they mean and whether I 
need to do anything about them.

Feb  5 03:25:24 aniwa /kernel: timeout flushing dbuf_out.chan, cnt 0xfff90584 
flags 0x000003c

Feb  5 04:12:28 aniwa /kernel: sio0: 1 more silo overflow (total 208)

Feb  5 04:25:43 aniwa /kernel: How strange... mss_intr with no reason!


The silo 'overflow messages' have been with me since I started running 
freebsd.  My PPP link seems to work well enough though.  It would be nice to 
be rid of the error message, but I figure it's no big deal.

The other two error message types are something I've just seen recently.  They 
appear to be related to system load. Netscape aside, things seem stable 
enough, but perhaps someone can explain what's going on.

FreeBSD 2.2.7-RELEASE + PAO kernel

Andrew McNaughton













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I'm sure there are better ways but:
$ find . -exec file {} \; |grep "FreeBSD"

I don't have ELF yet so I don't know what
the file output of an ELF is but a.out is:
FreeBSD/i386 compact demand paged dynamically linked executable  

(ok, well that also varies a bit, with striping etc).
But find the differences between the outputs
and run from there.



In a previous message, root@isis.dynip.com said:
> Hi there,
> Greg & the Gang,
> I am currently Nuking aout stuff from my system, and reinstalling the
> ports, etc.  I need some script to traverse the whole system searching
> for aout libs, and binaries, and write their path to a file so I can
> figure out where they are burried.
> Please help.
> Thanks
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Hi!

I am now working for an ISP-like institution. There is a machine here,
running Linux (RedHat 4.2, I think), which has all user accounts and
e-mail services, and I want to upgrade it to FreeBSD (the machine hangs
and crashes frequently). The only problem I have found is that password
files are NOT compatible between the two OS's...

Is there any way to transparently migrate all users to the new system?

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Why don;t u try to use a program called xbanner??
it is not on te ports but if you search it and get it and compile under
freebsd it works perfect.

Rick


On Thu, 4 Feb 1999, Crist J. Clark wrote:

> This is more of an XFree86 or straight X question, but since a lot of
> you may have configured this for FreeBSD yada-yada....
> 
> 1) I am having trouble configuring the xlogin screen that xdm starts the
> way I want. I have been able to change fonts and colors, but there is
> one problem I have been having with the text. I cannot seem to be able
> to sneak in a newline. What annoys me, is that what works on the SGIs
> does not work on the FreeBSD machines. The SGIs have,
> 
> xlogin*greeting:        Welcome to %H\n\
> IRIX %R
> 
> In the Xresources file for xdm. This makes a nice,
> 
>                        Welcome to indy
>                           IRIX 5.3
> 
> Where 'indy' is the hostname -s, and 5.3 is the IRIX version, both
> subsituted in by %-escapes.
> 
> Well, on FreeBSD, the %-escapes do not work, which I can live with. I
> can use 'CLIENTHOST' to get the hostname (but how do I get the short
> hostname?). But I cannot seem to get a newline in there. I have tried
> using,
> 
> xlogin*greeting:        Welcome to CLIENTHOST\n\FreeBSD 2.2.8
> 
> xlogin*greeting:        Welcome to CLIENTHOST\n\
> FreeBSD 2.2.8
> 
> xlogin*greeting:        Welcome to CLIENTHOST\012\FreeBSD 2.2.8
> 
> xlogin*greeting:        Welcome to CLIENTHOST\012\
> FreeBSD 2.2.8
> 
> All of which just give me,
> 
>             Welcome to freebsd.mydomain.org FreeBSD 2.2.8
> 
> How do I get that \n in there?
> 
> 2) On this same screen, I have been unsuccessful in modifying the
> geometry of the xconsole. I can change the foreground and background
> colors of the xconsole just fine, so I know the Xresources are being
> used. But no matter what values I might use for XConsole.geometry
> I cannot change the size or the position of the xconsole. I would like
> to have a small xconsole in the upper-left corner rather than the
> lower-right default,
> 
> XConsole.geometry:	430x90+0+0
> 
> But after adding this and restarting xdm, no change.
> 
> Anyone been able to do these things? Thanks in advance.
> -- 
> Crist J. Clark                           cjclark@home.com
> 
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Hi everybody!

My boss gave me a DEC AlphaServer 400 4/233, and instructed me to throw
away Digital Unix and to install Linux or FreeBSD. Of course, I want to
put FreeBSD on it, but I haven't found any instructions on how to begin
the installation process. RedHat Linux has a very understandable
tutorial about that (but heck, I don't know what is the code name for
this machine in particular, so I don't know what version of the loader
to install). Anyway, I want FreeBSD, not Linux... so, please somebody
tell me where to look for information about this matter, besides the
FreeeBSD/Alpha pages.

Many thanks in advance!

Cheers,

Victor Carranza

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All that I need to do is to change the IP values so that I can relocate a mail server and a web server.

The machine they gave me has 2.1.5  running on it.

I attempted to make changes in etc/sysconfig

there's a line that I modified to look like below

ifconfig_ep0 "inet xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx  netmask 255.255.255.0"

I can't ping after I reboot


However, if I type in the following as a command at the # prompt I can ping out, and be pinged in.

ifconfig cp0 inet xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx netmask 255.255.255.0 up

With the line above, I don't have any DNS service


What is the syntax for entries in the file that stores the router and nameserver?

I also have seen the following lines in sysconfig


static_routes = ""

I put in my router number where the xxx's are below

route_default = "xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx"      defalutrouter = "xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx"

routing daemon

Thanks.



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"Paul T. Root" wrote:
> 
> I'm sure there are better ways but:
> $ find . -exec file {} \; |grep "FreeBSD"
> 
> I don't have ELF yet so I don't know what
> the file output of an ELF is but a.out is:
> FreeBSD/i386 compact demand paged dynamically linked executable
> 
> (ok, well that also varies a bit, with striping etc).
> But find the differences between the outputs
> and run from there.

An ELF 'file' shows:

libcam.so.2: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, Intel 80386, version 1 (FreeBSD),
not stripped

Maybe change the grep for FreeBSD to 'ELF' <G>

-Kp

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hmmmm.... so many fascinating things to sort out.... where to begin...

1. The Pentium II does in fact have two internal processors, one for
     Integer operations, one for Floating Point. These two units used
     to be sold independently (e.g. 386/387) but converged about the
     time of the i486.

2. Both the Integer unit and FP unit are used by most software today,
    Windows or otherwise. Very old fossil software might emulate the
    FP stuff in software, assuming no FP processor was present, but
    most chips made in the last few years include FP hardware.

3. There may be some x86 variants with multiple internal integer
     functional units, to pass the one instruction/clock cycle limit, I'm
     not sure (haven't kept THAT close track of x86 lately). Even if
     they do, this is completely internal, and appears to be a single
     processor to the programmer (parallelism and scheduling is
     handled by something called a "stunt box" - and first showed
     up in Seymour Cray's CDC 6000 series computers.) Pretty
     much transparent to software (ok, you can play a few games
     to help out the stunt box for maximum parallelism - typically
    done by ordering machine instructions in the last phase of
    compiler optimization passes).

4. The PII can definitely be built in parallel configurations - with
     multiple chips - dual PII boards are readily available, and
     not even that outrageously expensive today. They can be
     wired for "twice the bang" or fault tolerant "let's both do the
     same thing, and recover if we don't agree" mode

5. With the traditional dual CPU (or quad, 6x, 8x, which takes
     somewhat more complex motherboards/backplanes), you
     can get fairly linear scaling of performance with added
     CPUs. Maybe 3.5X a 1 CPU system with 4 CPUs.

6. To harvest the performance possible on a SMP (Symmetric
     Multi Processor), your OS needs to support multi process
     correctly (can schedule any process on any available CPU)
     and/or multi-threading. Windows NT can do both. FreeBSD
     3.0 supports allocating processes across multiple CPUs.
     (anyone happen to know if the FreeBSD pThreads supports
     SMP in 3.0, to spread threads in a single process across
     multiple CPUs?)

7. Win9x (slightly rewarmed barely 32-bit DOS and Win3.1)
     can't do much of anything with additional CPUs. Nor can
    anything from MS prior to those.

Verstehe?


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>I have been given to understand that the P II is inherently a dual
>processor, and that under most if not all (ms) operating systems the
>second processor will idle. The question is what if anything need to be
>done during or after an initial FreeBSD installation needs to be done to
>have a functioning dual processor system?
>
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On Thu, Feb 04, 1999 at 12:04:36PM +0100, Sebestyen Zoltan wrote:
> I've just tired to mount a DEC OSF/1 install-CD on my UltraPleX SCSI CDROM
> (Tried both cd9960 and ufs filesystems). I didn't succeed and got the
> following messages: 
> 
> Feb  4 11:37:14 nv4 /kernel: cd1(ahc0:3:0): NOT READY asc:3a,1
> Feb  4 11:37:14 nv4 /kernel: cd1(ahc0:3:0): NOT READY asc:3a,1
> Feb  4 11:37:41 nv4 /kernel: cd0(ahc0:2:0): data overrun of 16777215 bytes detected in Data-In phase.  Tag == 0x1.  Forcing a retry.
> Feb  4 11:37:41 nv4 /kernel: cd0(ahc0:2:0): Have seen Data Phase.  Length  = 1024 .  NumSGs = 1.
> Feb  4 11:37:41 nv4 /kernel: sg[0] - Addr 0xe40400 : Length 1024
> 
>  However, there were no problems when I 'cat'-ted the contents of the CD
> into /dev/null. (Just to see if there are any reading problems.) 
>  A minute later the machine resetted, and I'm almost sure that it
> happened because of the problems I mentioned above.
>  Do you have some idea what happened and what do these messages mean? I
> wonder why can some problem with a CD (both IDE and SCSI) bring FreeBSD
> down on his knees so easily. 

sorry no solution, just adding to the observable data .. 

i saw somting like this while trying to read teh walnut creek freebsd 
v2.2.8-release cdrom specificily teh 2nd cd .. the live filesystem cd. several 
directoroies had directory blocksises of 20k and one was up their at 60k 
blocks.

after posting to -questions my observation, well i asked cdrom.com as well i 
have yet to get an answer .. seems thier tech support is slow, but them again 
it has always been slow as near as i can tell.

maybe you might have better luck .. not so grin.

yes, every machine i put this cdrom into and tried to read teh extraordinarily 
large directories woule resuult in an imediate system reboot.

four machine (two very reliab;e i486dx33's, a pentium p5-133 and a newish 
pentium pro p6-180 .. none of these are overclocked) also several versions of 
freebsd produce teh same result, being freebsd v2.2.5-release and freebsd 
v2.2.7-release. all the filesystems are scsi, hostatadapters being adaptec 
1542b's, a buslogic bt-958 (in 8 bit mode only) and an adaptec 2940uw with a 8 
bit bus hard disk and a 16 bit bus hard disk. as for the cdroms they are all 
scsi and come from the reliable end of the nec and sony product range. 

i;ve also got a digital unix v4 licence and installation kit, it has several 
large documentation directories as well .. it also rebooted spontaniously. i 
wa also told my harware was rubbish at teh time .. seems to be a proclivite 
amongst the so called experts. if they don't understand someting its easy to 
bag teh hardware insted of offering intelligent options.

anyway these have been my experiences . your milage may vary, if yo get a 
halfway sane soltion would you mind leting me know, please.

regards

jonathan

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On Thu, Feb 04, 1999 at 10:02:52AM -0600, Victor Carranza wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> I am now working for an ISP-like institution. There is a machine here,
> running Linux (RedHat 4.2, I think), which has all user accounts and
> e-mail services, and I want to upgrade it to FreeBSD (the machine hangs
> and crashes frequently). The only problem I have found is that password
> files are NOT compatible between the two OS's...
> 
> Is there any way to transparently migrate all users to the new system?

I did something similar with a little bit of perl. Parse the Linux password
file and pass the appropriate arguments to "pw useradd." You can set the
password with "chpass -p."

Be sure that you have the DES stuff installed on the FreeBSD box, so that the
passwords are compatible.

Chris

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On Thu, 4 Feb 1999 root@isis.dynip.com wrote:

>  I am currently Nuking aout stuff from my system, and reinstalling the
>  ports, etc.  I need some script to traverse the whole system searching
>  for aout libs, and binaries, and write their path to a file so I can
>  figure out where they are burried.

Assuming you've done nothing non-standard, and have always used ports
and packages to install things, then /var/db/pkg/ contains a directory
named the package/port name, and inside is a +CONTENTS file which
includes the files installed (hopefully).

You can just pkg_delete <pkg_name> to delete the package.

If you've done a make-aout-to-elf or installed 3.0 or above,
then everything in /bin, /sbin, /usr/sbin, /usr/bin and /usr/include
should be ok. The "problem" lies in /usr/local/bin, /usr/local/sbin,
/usr/local/lib, /usr/X11R6/lib and /usr/X11R6/bin. For the non-standard
installed binaries, you can do some sort of file to see if it's ELF
or not.

The libraries at least are fairly easy to locate - look for a 
aout directory.

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Hi-

I was wondering if there is a list of files that are needed for a basic
installation.  I made the boot disk and went through the installation
process, however it asks for the first disk needed after the installation.
If you would please send me the file list or a location to download the
list I would really appreciate it.  Thank you.  Jef

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	I just CVSup'ed "ports-all" from ftp3.freebsd.org ... and
suddenly there are no Makefiles.  (_Anywhere_ in the ports
collection.)  Anyone know what happened?


				Robert Huff


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Hello - I've been toiling with my unix and my manual but cannot find
answers to my problems - 

1. When I fire up xdm I get a huge login: and password: request in
graphics mode.
When filled out, the screen goes blank, and then just comes back
with the same screen. I cannot get rid of the screen at this point.
Is there a secondary passwd file for xdm? 
I can't get another terminal or even reset the computer - I have
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> One thing is worth telling the author of the original message, it is
> your job if you are going to go ahead with such a test, to insure that
> NO BUGS in your own software that would trigger a crash on one system,
> but fails to do the same for the other.

If bugs in an application program crash a Unix machine, then the
system is badly broken and would be worth avoiding.

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See http://www.freebsd.org/picobsd

Brandon Fosdick wrote:
> 
> What is PicoBSD?

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No problem,

I should have been http://www.freebsd.org/~picobsd/

That'll teach me not to check first.

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> Sorry to gripe, but the link you gave is dead.

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There are archives of this on www.egroups.com

GoTo the group: freebsd-questions -> you can read all of the 
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They are archived etc...


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Can any tell me what are the bugs. I looked into the mkfs() code yesterday
night.

The error message I ran into is "input/output error". I tried to locate this
string in the code but not found them.

I used the release 3.0 CDROM's sysinstall to do the disk. Do you guys think
I should download another copy Freebsd 3.0 stable form ftp site. Is it the
CDROM I subscribed is less as good as the 3.0-stable in the ftp site? If so,
it seems I need to down load the whole 3.0 stable tree to be a bit more bug
free.

Remember, I used MS format.exe to do that succesfully. Look like MS things
are better compitible with drives. and this will put Freebsd in much
disadvantage.

MattL
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@modacad.com
> ----------
> From: 	Daniel C. Sobral[SMTP:dcs@newsguy.com]
> Reply To: 	freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Sent: 	Thursday, February 04, 1999 9:17 AM
> To: 	Matt Liu
> Cc: 	freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: 	Re: Unable to newfs HD >10G with 3.0
> 
> Matt Liu wrote:
> > 
> > I bought a fujisu 10G ATA HD. fdisked and then cannot newfs it. Some can
> be
> > newfsed, some cannot and give me a input/output error.
> > 
> > It seems that it will newfs if I partitioned it into several small
> slice.
> > Look like you cannot create a single 10 G fs on the drive.
> > 
> > can FreeBSD able to support to create a fs larger or equal 10G?
> > 
> > I tried change geometry setting in the sysinstall fdisk screen. it does
> not
> > help.
> 
> You failed to mention what version of FreeBSD you are using. There
> are many around, y'know... :-) I'm even amazed at how many bugs are
> reported for 2.2.7 and earlier...
> 
> A "bug" is a "bug" if it exists in the most up to date -stable
> version of FreeBSD. Well, right now there are 3.0-STABLE and
> 2.2.8-STABLE, so things are a little bit more muddier. Generally
> speaking, I'd say the more up to date 2.2.8-STABLE, unless you are
> already on the 3.0 branch.
> 
> Back to the question, I seem to recall a patch for >8Gb being
> applied to 2.2.8-STABLE. That's *not* the 2.2.8-RELEASE, the one
> that came on the CD-ROM. That's *after* the -release, which you can
> get on the Internet, by using cvsup, for instance. Check the
> handbook if you have any questions about this.
> 
> So, if you are already running the latest 2.2.8-stable, and still
> have the problem, could you provide us with the other thing you
> forgot, namely the error messages? 
> 
> Last, but not least, this question is really more appropriate for
> -questions than -hackers.
> 
> --
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> 
> 	She just looked at him over the rotating pencil like, how slow can
> a mammal be and still have respiratory functions?
> 
> 

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Yes, yes, bad form following up your own post, but I figured  one of
these two out: 

Crist J. Clark wrote,

> 2) On this same screen, I have been unsuccessful in modifying the
> geometry of the xconsole. I can change the foreground and background
> colors of the xconsole just fine, so I know the Xresources are being
> used. But no matter what values I might use for XConsole.geometry
> I cannot change the size or the position of the xconsole. I would like
> to have a small xconsole in the upper-left corner rather than the
> lower-right default,
> 
> XConsole.geometry:	430x90+0+0

This is because when xconsole was started in Xsetup_0, the '-geometry'
switched was used, which overrides the Xresource value. Fixed.

Still need help with the first item of my original post.
-- 
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I'm running gs-5.10 (installed from 3.0-RELEASE/packages) on a system running FreeBSD 3.0-RELEASE, using netatalk's papd to serve an Appletalk print queue, printing to an HP Deskjet 855C, using the cjd850 driver. I'm printing from my Mac running MacOS 8.5.1, using either PrintPS or AdobePS. I set up /etc/printcap, etc. using apsfilter. Everything works fine except that when I try to print landscape pages, pages come out clipped but not rotated, i.e. still in portrait with the right few inches chopped off. If I distill to PDF, and print from Acrobat Reader on the Mac, it prints correctly. I've tried several different PPDs. 

I installed gs-5.50 and nothing changed. When I view a landscape file using x11 as the driver, it comes up in a portrait orientation. I installed gs-2.6.2, and it worked fine, though that version doesn't have a cdj850 driver, and the cdj550 driver doesn't support the 855C very well (otherwise I'd stick with that). 

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I have a laptop that i would like to use BSD on however it doesn't have a CD
rom drive. However i do have a pc with a CD rom drive. I also have a syquest
1Gb removeable hard drive. How can i down load BSD on to the Syquest so that
I can install BSD onto the laptop.
I also wasn't able to create the install disk. Any help you can offer would
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From: Xiaowei Yang <yxw@mercury.lcs.mit.edu>
Subject: (no subject)
Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 10:19:10 -0500

> Hi,
> 
> I have three questions:
> 
> 1. Does anyone know which release of bsd includes the dummynet
> implemention?

You'll want 3.x-STABLE (tag RELENG_3) most likely.

> 
> 2. I want to upgrade my systems (now is 2.2.6&7) to stable. I read the
> tutorial for upgrading /usr/src, but I donot know how to upgrade
> ports-all.

Just make sure you have:

ports-all tag=.

in your CVSup file

> 
> 3. I want to modify /usr/src so that I want to keep a local CVS
> repository. Can I use CVSup to check /usr/src to my CVS directly and use
> CVSup to check out from my CVS?

Not sure I understand your question.  If you want to keep a local
repository of the FreeBSD project up to date,  then the most
painless way I know is to install /usr/ports/net/cvsup-mirror.

You can use normal CVS checkout and export commands against this
repository or even run cvsup against the localhost cvsupd process
installed by cvsup-mirror.

I don't understand all of the nuances of trying to place
one's own sources into a  FreeBSD repository being mirrored
with CVSup.

I can't imagine it would be a recommended thing to do.

If you are interested in building local deviants of FreeBSD,
then the artifacts left over from a 'make release' are very
useful for building in a chrooted environment.

You can apply patches from your own local repository there
and then build things without distrupting your development
system.

HTH,

Jerry Hicks
wghicks@bellsouth.net
 
> Thanks,
> 
> -- Xiaowei
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From: Robert Huff <rhuff@kalypso.cybercom.net>
Subject: Ports (3-stable): no Makefiles after CVSup?
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 12:51:23 -0500 (EST)

> 
> 	I just CVSup'ed "ports-all" from ftp3.freebsd.org ... and
> suddenly there are no Makefiles.  (_Anywhere_ in the ports
> collection.)  Anyone know what happened?


Ouch!  They were dutifully deleted most likely.

Read /usr/share/examples/cvsup/stable-supfile
for an explanation of why.  This is a FAQ.

Sorry,

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Hi Folks,

again, I need some help with sendmail on a single host, single user
ppp dialup account (which means I don't know my own IP, it changes
from login to login). Here's the problem:

I set up the mail connection using fetchmail and sendmail as shown
in FAQ 8.19. "How do I set up mail with a dialup connection to the
'net?". For details, see below.

Until here, all is well and everything works as it should. The problem
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could create an account using the same name as my email provider, but
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I have a CD-ROM distribution of FreeBSD 2.2.6 and I want to upgrade to 
the latest stable version.  However, I can't find any 'dummy' 
instructions that tell me how to do this.  There are various references 
to installing the source and (horror of horrors) compiling your own 
kernel (something which I probably don't have enough disk space for even 
if I did have a clue), but I can't find anything that says "to upgrade 
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Am I supposed to re-install the whole thing?  Would installing as though 
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and copy it into some directory?  If the latter, do I need to do 
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rather than 2.2.6?  And can I keep in sync with a cron job?

I'm a C++ programmer so can understand technical stuff, but I have very 
little Unix admin experience.

Thanks!

Regards

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At 10:22 AM 2/4/99 -0500, Crist J. Clark wrote:
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>> Hi there people,
>> I am thinking to create majordomo mailing list for Newbies (i.e. people
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I want to install FreeBSD on an DEC Alpha 4/166.
Can somebody inform me how I can make this sucker boot from the floppy to
start the FreeBSD installation.
I have installed FreeBSD on a couple PC's but am pretty new to the Alpha
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On Thu, 4 Feb 1999 root@isis.dynip.com wrote:

> Hi there,
> Greg & the Gang,
> I am currently Nuking aout stuff from my system, and reinstalling the
> ports, etc.  I need some script to traverse the whole system searching
> for aout libs, and binaries, and write their path to a file so I can
> figure out where they are burried.
> Please help.
> Thanks

I did this with:
(as root)
find / | xargs file | grep executable | sed -e '/ELF/d' | grep FreeBSD |\
tee - listaouts.txt

This will list all aouts to standard output and the file "listaouts.txt".


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On Thu, Feb 04, 1999 at 07:32:10PM +0200, Khetan Gajjar wrote:
> On Thu, 4 Feb 1999 root@isis.dynip.com wrote:
> 
> >  I am currently Nuking aout stuff from my system, and reinstalling the
> >  ports, etc.  I need some script to traverse the whole system searching
> >  for aout libs, and binaries, and write their path to a file so I can
> >  figure out where they are burried.
> 
> Assuming you've done nothing non-standard, and have always used ports
> and packages to install things, then /var/db/pkg/ contains a directory
> named the package/port name, and inside is a +CONTENTS file which
> includes the files installed (hopefully).
> 
> You can just pkg_delete <pkg_name> to delete the package.
> 
> If you've done a make-aout-to-elf or installed 3.0 or above,
> then everything in /bin, /sbin, /usr/sbin, /usr/bin and /usr/include
> should be ok. The "problem" lies in /usr/local/bin, /usr/local/sbin,
> /usr/local/lib, /usr/X11R6/lib and /usr/X11R6/bin. For the non-standard
> installed binaries, you can do some sort of file to see if it's ELF
> or not.
> 
> The libraries at least are fairly easy to locate - look for a 
> aout directory.

i was wondering if somebody could explain to me and the others wonder this 
question .. why is this move to elf so good, expedient and or why is everybody 
falling over backwards to get thier.

i am not a programmer, so i cannot see the difference(s), if thier are any 
between aout and elf. other than say the fact that linux runs elf and we need 
that to be linux compatible .. have out linux emulator work .. sort off.

some pointers and explanation in non programmer-ezze would be muchly 
apreciated. 

regards,

jonathan

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I am trying to install 2.2.8 Stable on a PC using CD-ROM.  The PC already
has Windows NT and Linux installed.  The partition was done by
partitionMagic 3.02.253.  The boot manager is SYSTEM COMMANDER. There are
nine partitions in all.  The ninth is free (1.4GB).  

However, when I come up with the partition menu, FreeBSD only shows three
partitions.  The first is marked as "unused", actually it is the primary
DOS partition (63 blocks).  It can not find the ninth partition which is
free.

Is PartitionMagic (by PowerQuest) compatible with FreeBSD?  Can I use
SYSTEM COMMANDER (I guess it is the boot manager) with FreeBSD (choose
leave boot record intact)? Why FreeBSD can not find the free partition? 

Please help me out. Thanks a lot.

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>the system then tries to access the floppy, and returns:
>
>block 0 of dva0 is not a valid boot block
>bootstrap failure
>


You might not have the alpha boot disk?

Right now I don't think that the alpha install disk works.  It'll boot but
it won't install if the disk doesn't have a  FreeBSD/alpha disklabel.

The most recent SNAP available on ftp.freebsd.org is
3.0-19990114-SNAP, it's in /pub/FreeBSD/releases/snapshots/alpha.   You can
get the disk and try but I think it's broken.   You'll need the boot.flp and
the mfsroot.flp images to boot.  You can then do a boot dva0 and it will
prompt you for the mfsroot floppy.

Mark



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zhihuizhang wrote:
> 
><snip> FreeBSD only shows three
> partitions.  The first is marked as "unused", actually it is the primary
> DOS partition (63 blocks).  It can not find the ninth partition which is
> free.
> 
> Is PartitionMagic (by PowerQuest) compatible with FreeBSD?  Can I use
> SYSTEM COMMANDER (I guess it is the boot manager) with FreeBSD (choose
> leave boot record intact)? Why FreeBSD can not find the free partition?

I use both Partition Magic and System Commander and they work just fine
for me (win95/freebsd 3.0).
However, I'm set up differently. I run FreeBSD on a second drive (which
happens to be scsi).

The thing that bothers me is that you have *nine* partitions? and you
want to run on the 9th?
Sounds like you have an extended partition and maybe you are trying to
use one of the sub partitions
of that for FreeBSD. I tried that once with no success. I don't think it
can be done, but perhaps
someone here knows how to do it.

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Hello,
I'm running a fBSD router / firewall (2 machines).....and allowing a
trusted
client secure access through to one of my internal machines.....

question is can I reserve bandwidth off my 64k isdn for this purpose????

this is because everytime our mail and www traffic goes up the performance
of
his connection goes down.....
if it possible how would I do it??

Leo

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On Thursday,  4 February 1999 at 10:34:02 -0600, Victor Carranza wrote:
> Hi everybody!
>
> My boss gave me a DEC AlphaServer 400 4/233, and instructed me to throw
> away Digital Unix and to install Linux or FreeBSD. Of course, I want to
> put FreeBSD on it, but I haven't found any instructions on how to begin
> the installation process. RedHat Linux has a very understandable
> tutorial about that (but heck, I don't know what is the code name for
> this machine in particular, so I don't know what version of the loader
> to install). Anyway, I want FreeBSD, not Linux... so, please somebody
> tell me where to look for information about this matter, besides the
> FreeeBSD/Alpha pages.

I'm working on an addendum for the next reprint of The Complete
FreeBSD.  This is what I currently have on the subject.  Please let me
know what's missing, and I'll make sure that it's in the printed
version (and send you a copy too).

Greg

Support for Compaq/DEC Alpha Processor
______________________________________

Support  for  Compaq  (previously  Digital  Equipment  Corporation  or DEC) AXP
processors and Alpha systems was introduced with FreeBSD 3.0.  FreeBSD requires
the  same  SRM console firmware as Digital UNIX.  It will not work with the ARC
firmware used with Microsoft NT.  If your system is currently  running  Digital
UNIX,  then  you  should  be able to use the existing SRM console.  You can get
firmware updates from
ftp://gatekeeper.digital.com/pub/Digital/Alpha/firmware.   Note  that  the  SRM
firmware  is  board-specific,  so  take  care  to  choose the correct file that
matches your exact system: near enough is not good enough!  Unfortunately, some
Alpha systems do not support the SRM firmware.  You cannot run FreeBSD on these
systems.

The SRM console commands differ from one  version  to  another.   The  commands
supported by your version are described in the hardware manual that was shipped
with your system.   The  console  help  command  lists  all  supported  console
commands.   If  your  system  has been set to boot automatically, you must type
Ctrl-C to interrupt the boot process and get to the SRM console  prompt  (>>>).
If the system is not set to boot automatically, it will display the SRM console
prompt after performing system checks.

All SRM console versions support the set and show  commands  which  operate  on
environment variables that are stored in non-volatile memory.  The show command
lists all environment variables, including those that are read-only.

The SRM console boot command has the following syntax:

b[oot] -fl flags -fi filename boot_device

These parameters have the following meaning:

o flags is a string that is passed to the operating  system.   If  it  contains
  spaces, you must surround it with double quotes.  When booting FreeBSD, these
  are the boot flags.  For example, setting flags to s instructs the kernel  to
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  parameter is not defined in the boot command, the value defaults to the value
  of the boot_osflags environment variable.

o filename  is  the  name  of  the  file  to load, usually the operating system
  kernel.  When booting FreeBSD, set filename to kernel or  omit  the  filename
  parameter to boot from the default kernel.

o boot_device  is  the  device  name (such as dka100).  Your hardware reference
  manual describes the device naming convention used in your  system.   If  the
  boot_device  parameter is not defined in the boot command, the value defaults
  to the value of the bootdef_dev environment variable.

If your system was previously set to boot automatically, the following  command
should cause the power up sequence stop at the SRM console prompt:

set auto_action 3

The SRM console show device command lists the system devices that were detected
during the power up checks.  If you want to install FreeBSD from  a  CD-ROM  or
floppy  disk,  the  device  must be listed in the device list.  To install from
that device, just type:

boot device_name

at the SRM console prompt.  From this point on, the rest of the installation is
the same as for the Intel architecture.



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Compile ipfw and dummynet into your kernel and config it that way.  It comes
with the 2.2.8 release and will work with 3.0-current...but not release.

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From: Leo Kliger <leo@astea.com.au>
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>Hello,
>I'm running a fBSD router / firewall (2 machines).....and allowing a
>trusted
>client secure access through to one of my internal machines.....
>
>question is can I reserve bandwidth off my 64k isdn for this purpose????
>
>this is because everytime our mail and www traffic goes up the performance
>of
>his connection goes down.....
>if it possible how would I do it??
>
>Leo
>
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> 
> 
> zhihuizhang wrote:
> > 
> ><snip> FreeBSD only shows three
> > partitions.  The first is marked as "unused", actually it is the primary
> > DOS partition (63 blocks).  It can not find the ninth partition which is
> > free.
> > 
> > Is PartitionMagic (by PowerQuest) compatible with FreeBSD?  Can I use
> > SYSTEM COMMANDER (I guess it is the boot manager) with FreeBSD (choose
> > leave boot record intact)? Why FreeBSD can not find the free partition?
> 
> I use both Partition Magic and System Commander and they work just fine
> for me (win95/freebsd 3.0).
> However, I'm set up differently. I run FreeBSD on a second drive (which
> happens to be scsi).
> 
> The thing that bothers me is that you have *nine* partitions? and you
> want to run on the 9th?
> Sounds like you have an extended partition and maybe you are trying to
> use one of the sub partitions
> of that for FreeBSD. I tried that once with no success. I don't think it
> can be done, but perhaps
> someone here knows how to do it.
> 
The nine partitions are (in order) FAT, Extended, Linux Ext2, Linux Ext2,
Linux Ext2, Linux Ext2, Linux Swap, NTFS (I guess this is for NT), and
FAT.  The last one is free to use, I use PartitionMagic to format it and
set it to be FAT.

It seems to me that partition and extended partion are different. If I run
fdisk, there are only two items: 

C: 1   PRI-DOS    31M
   2   EXT-DOS  6119M

So, linux and NT must be put into the EXT-DOS part. 

If this is bad arragement, can you tell me how to do this from scratch?  I
still want to put Linux and NT on that machine as well.

Thanks a lot.


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On Fri, 5 Feb 1999, Leo Kliger wrote:

> Hello,
> I'm running a fBSD router / firewall (2 machines).....and allowing a
> trusted
> client secure access through to one of my internal machines.....
> 
> question is can I reserve bandwidth off my 64k isdn for this purpose????
> 
> this is because everytime our mail and www traffic goes up the performance
> of
> his connection goes down.....
> if it possible how would I do it??

You can use "dummynet" if you are usinmg FreeBSD 2.2.8 or above. "man 4
dummynet"

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> Leo
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On Thu, 4 Feb 1999, Greg Lehey wrote:

> > I have a hard disk with 2 slices in its partition table.  In the first one
> > I have FreeBSD 2.2.8 and I have not touched the second one for anything.
> >
> > I received my FreeBSD 3.0 and I thought I could installed it  in the
> > second slice...
> >
> > Everything worked ok during the installation.
> >
> > When the installation process rebooted my machine, the first slice
> > had lost its disklabel entry... I could not boot from the first slice
> > anymore...
> >
> > WHAT HAPPENED???
> 
> YOU OVERWROTE THE LABEL!!!
> 
> > I did not make anything weird.  I swear!  Has anybody had the same
> > problem?
> 
> I suspect you allowed the partitions to overlap.  On the whole, it's
> better to avoid (Microsoft) partitions and just use a UNIX partition
> table.  For example, on my test machine I run 2.2-STABLE and
> 4.0-CURRENT.  I have divided the UNIX slice into the following
> partitions (this is the output from disklabel -r sd0):

I did not use FDISK or similar.
It just happened.
Partitions are not overlaped.

> 
> 8 partitions:
> #        size   offset    fstype   [fsize bsize bps/cpg]
>   a:    81920   344064    4.2BSD        0     0     0   # (Cyl.  240*- 297*)
>   b:   262144    81920      swap                        # (Cyl.   57*- 240*)
>   c:  4226725        0    unused        0     0         # (Cyl.    0 - 2955*)
>   e:    81920        0    4.2BSD        0     0     0   # (Cyl.    0 - 57*)
>   f:  1900000   425984    4.2BSD        0     0     0   # (Cyl.  297*- 1626*)
>   g:  1900741  2325984    4.2BSD        0     0     0   # (Cyl. 1626*- 2955*)
> 
> Partition a is the root partition for panic, the -CURRENT machine
> Partition b is the swap partition for both machines
> Partition e is the root partition for daemon, the -STABLE machine
> Partition f is the /usr partition for daemon, the -STABLE machine
> Partition g is the /usr partition for panic, the -CURRENT machine
> 
> To boot the machine, you just tell it which partition to load the
> kernel from.
> 
I think I understood what happened...
it was because I used slice "a" of both partitions?
do they overlap ALWAYS?
can FreeBSD distinguish between them?


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In the last episode (Feb 04), zhihuizhang said:
> The nine partitions are (in order) FAT, Extended, Linux Ext2, Linux
> Ext2, Linux Ext2, Linux Ext2, Linux Swap, NTFS (I guess this is for
> NT), and FAT.  The last one is free to use, I use PartitionMagic to
> format it and set it to be FAT.
> 
> It seems to me that partition and extended partion are different. If I run
> fdisk, there are only two items: 
> 
> C: 1   PRI-DOS    31M
>    2   EXT-DOS  6119M
> 
> So, linux and NT must be put into the EXT-DOS part. 
> 
> If this is bad arragement, can you tell me how to do this from
> scratch?  I still want to put Linux and NT on that machine as well.

If you can, remove that spare FAT partition, and rearrange the other
partitions so that the freespace is _not_ inside any extended-partition
containers (Partition Magic should let you do this).  That should let
FreeBSD see and install into it.  FreeBSD wants to install into
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At 02:13 PM 2/4/99 , Rod Aquino wrote:
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On Thursday,  4 February 1999 at 17:19:53 -0600, Eduardo Viruena Silva wrote:
> On Thu, 4 Feb 1999, Greg Lehey wrote:
>
>>> I have a hard disk with 2 slices in its partition table.  In the first one
>>> I have FreeBSD 2.2.8 and I have not touched the second one for anything.
>>>
>>> I received my FreeBSD 3.0 and I thought I could installed it  in the
>>> second slice...
>>>
>>> Everything worked ok during the installation.
>>>
>>> When the installation process rebooted my machine, the first slice
>>> had lost its disklabel entry... I could not boot from the first slice
>>> anymore...
>>>
>>> WHAT HAPPENED???
>>
>> YOU OVERWROTE THE LABEL!!!
>>
>>> I did not make anything weird.  I swear!  Has anybody had the same
>>> problem?
>>
>> I suspect you allowed the partitions to overlap.  On the whole, it's
>> better to avoid (Microsoft) partitions and just use a UNIX partition
>> table.  For example, on my test machine I run 2.2-STABLE and
>> 4.0-CURRENT.  I have divided the UNIX slice into the following
>> partitions (this is the output from disklabel -r sd0):
>
> I did not use FDISK or similar.

Then you didn't partition.

> It just happened.

Nothing ``just happens''.  You have to do something.  It could be that
you don't know what you did, but that doesn't mean you didn't do it.

> Partitions are not overlaped.

So what does the partition table look like?

> I think I understood what happened...
> it was because I used slice "a" of both partitions?

I doubt it.

> do they overlap ALWAYS?

They should never overlap.

> can FreeBSD distinguish between them?

Yes.

Greg
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On 5 Feb 99, at 9:30, Greg Lehey wrote:

> You can get firmware updates from
> ftp://gatekeeper.digital.com/pub/Digital/Alpha/firmware.   

I just tried this, but gatekeeper didn't resolve.  However,
ftp://ftp.digital.com/pub/Digital/Alpha/firmware/index.html
did work.

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On Thursday,  4 February 1999 at 16:13:46 -0800, Dave Walton wrote:
> On 5 Feb 99, at 9:30, Greg Lehey wrote:
>
>> You can get firmware updates from
>> ftp://gatekeeper.digital.com/pub/Digital/Alpha/firmware.
>
> I just tried this, but gatekeeper didn't resolve.  However,
> ftp://ftp.digital.com/pub/Digital/Alpha/firmware/index.html
> did work.

Ugh.  What's a web page doing on an ftp server?  Thanks for the info,
anyway.  Sad to see gatekeeper going away.  It's still known as
gatekeeper.dec.com, but I wonder how long that will last.

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As the subject indicates, I've just started getting 
messages like:

"/kernel: wd0: interrupt timeout:" and
"/kernel: wd0: status 58<rdy,seekdone,drq> error 0"

in my /var/log/messages (FreeBSD 2.2.8 running a 
Celeron 333A with 256 MB RAM).  The drive in question
is a brand-new IBM DTTA-350840.

I assume this means that I'm pretty well screwed, and
better plan on replacing this drive ASAP.  Could someone
familiar with this particular error message advise whether
this is an appropriate assumption? Since I also just lost 
a Quantum UltraSCSI drive this morning, I'm not having a 
lot of luck with disk drives!

Dan Mahoney
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On Thursday,  4 February 1999 at 16:52:40 -0800, dan@ns1.wolf.com wrote:
> As the subject indicates, I've just started getting
> messages like:
>
> "/kernel: wd0: interrupt timeout:" and
> "/kernel: wd0: status 58<rdy,seekdone,drq> error 0"
>
> in my /var/log/messages (FreeBSD 2.2.8 running a
> Celeron 333A with 256 MB RAM).  The drive in question
> is a brand-new IBM DTTA-350840.
>
> I assume this means that I'm pretty well screwed, and
> better plan on replacing this drive ASAP.  Could someone
> familiar with this particular error message advise whether
> this is an appropriate assumption? Since I also just lost
> a Quantum UltraSCSI drive this morning, I'm not having a
> lot of luck with disk drives!

I don't think this means that your drive is dying.  The status is
correct; about the only obvious thing is that it's asserting drq, a
DMA request.  2.2.8 doesn't support DMA; I see two possibilities:

1.  The BIOS is setting the drive up to run in DMA mode, and things
    aren't working so well because the system doesn't handle it.

2.  The 'dma' status is noise, and your IDE controller has missed an
    interrupt.

How often does this happen?  Does the drive work at all?  Has it ever
worked?  Can you specify DMA mode in your BIOS?

Greg
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> I don't think this means that your drive is dying.  The status is
> correct; about the only obvious thing is that it's asserting drq, a
> DMA request.  2.2.8 doesn't support DMA; I see two possibilities:
> 
> 1.  The BIOS is setting the drive up to run in DMA mode, and things
>     aren't working so well because the system doesn't handle it.
> 
> 2.  The 'dma' status is noise, and your IDE controller has missed an
>     interrupt.
> 
> How often does this happen?  Does the drive work at all?  Has it ever
> worked?  Can you specify DMA mode in your BIOS?

It just started happening today, and has only happened a couple
of times.  The drive appears to still be working.  I get a little
paranoid about this system, as it's in nothern CA and I'm in 
southern CA, about 500 miles away.  Since I'm hosting a lot
of virtual web domains on this machine, it's super crucial that
it run reliably.  I just put this box on line last week, replacing
a Pentium 150 with 128 MB RAM running FreeBSD 3.0-SNAP-9808something.

I don't remember whether the BIOS supports DMA mode - next time
I'm in NorCal working on the beasty I'll check it out.  It sounds
like I need to keep watching the logs, and if I see this message
show up more often I'll get worried about it; if not, then I'll
remain cool and trust that it's not about to fall over.

Thanks for the explanation.  It helps calm my nerves a bunch.

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Hi,

	I've been using Sharity of a while now and it all of the sudden
stopped working.  I've tried reinstalling but that doesn't seem to help.

The error I get is:
	Mounting Share: Operation not supported by device
Syslog note something similar:
	 sharity[338]: [1] nfs: sysMount(): [19] Operation not supported 
by device

which comes from Sharity's nfs.c
----
                rval = sysMount(mpAscii, &rootFh, sockFd, &sockAddr,
srvInetName(shrServer(this->share)), service, nfsPath, nfsTimeout,
nfsTransferSize, readOnly, nfsRetransmit);
                storederr = errno;
                uidsecBecomeUser();
        if(rval < 0){
            logPrintf(LOGM_ERROR, "nfs: sysMount(): [%d] %s\n", storederr,
sysSt rerror(storederr));
----

the sysMount command is defined in system.c as
----

int sysMount(char *mpAscii, void *rootFh, int sockFd, struct sockaddr_in
*so ckAddr, char *serverName, char *service, char *nfsPath, btint
nfsTimeout, btint nfsTransferSize, btbool readOnly, btint nfsRetransmit)
{
struct nfs_args         nfs_args;

        sockAddr->sin_len = sizeof(*sockAddr);
        sockAddr->sin_family = AF_INET;
        memset(&nfs_args, 0, sizeof(nfs_args));
#if defined __NetBSD__ || defined BSDI3 || (__FreeBSD__ >= 3) || defined
__OpenB SD__ || defined RHAPSODY
        nfs_args.version        = NFS_ARGSVERSION;
#endif
        nfs_args.wsize          = nfsTransferSize;
        nfs_args.rsize          = nfsTransferSize;
        nfs_args.retrans        = nfsRetransmit;
        nfs_args.timeo          = nfsTimeout;   /* timeout */
        nfs_args.addr           = (struct sockaddr *)sockAddr;
        nfs_args.addrlen        = sizeof(*sockAddr);
        nfs_args.sotype         = SOCK_DGRAM;
        nfs_args.flags = NFSMNT_SOFT | NFSMNT_RETRANS | NFSMNT_TIMEO |
NFSMNT_WSIZE | NFSMNT_RSIZE;
        nfs_args.fh                     = rootFh;
#if !defined __bsdi__ || defined BSDI3
        nfs_args.fhsize         = 32;
#endif
        nfs_args.hostname       = serverName;
        return mount(MOUNT_NFS, mpAscii, readOnly ? MNT_RDONLY : 0,
(caddr_t)&nf s_args);
}

----

I don't know C and I've never had to deal with NFS.  Could somebody
explain to me why I'm getting this error?  Sharity's cifsmount cmd is suid
root.  The mountpoint does exists and I've tried grafting to different
mountpoints but I still get the same error.  The mountpoint is owned by
the correct user.  Sharity is able to login to the NT machine just fine,
it's the nfs mount that fails.

TIA

john.


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On Thu, 4 Feb 1999, Nin|a405 wrote:

> If anyone has some good documentation or websites about how to setup NIS on
> a FreeBSD system, please let me know.
> 
> Thanks,
> -Ninja405

Greetings!

If you go to:

	www.realtime.net/sculpture/nis-startup.html

you will find a tutorial that I wrote after my experiences. In it you
also find Ted Wisniewski's tutorial referenced in the credits section
at the bottom. If you can get or borrow a copy of Hal Stern's book
(referenced as well).

Good luck, and let us know how it goes!

John



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On Thu, 4 Feb 1999, Pallavi Ramam wrote:

> Hi All,
> Has anyone had any experience with FreeBSD running on AMD chips? The
> handbook mentions
> segmentation faults during compilation (it also says this has been
> fixed).
> If  I could more information on what to look out for, possible
> problems/bugs, or your experience,
> I'd be grateful.

I have seen FreeBSD run withno problems on a AMDK6-2 300. 

> 
> Thanks!
> pallavi..
> 
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On Thursday,  4 February 1999 at 17:18:33 -0800, Pallavi Ramam wrote:
> Hi All,
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> Has anyone had any experience with FreeBSD running on AMD chips? 

Yes.  My main machine runs a K6-233.

> The handbook mentions segmentation faults during compilation (it
> also says this has been fixed).

Correct.  Some of the older steppings had problems, but it's been
nearly 2 years since they were fixed.  The older chips (K6-1) also
generate a lot of heat and need good cooling.  The newer chips use
much lower power.

> If I could more information on what to look out for, possible
> problems/bugs, or your experience, I'd be grateful.

There's not really much.  About the only down side is that they can't
run in multiprocessor configurations.

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Hi Jill, I'm forwarding this to the support mailing list which is
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from there, and the answers will become available at
http://www.freebsd.org/search.html for others who have a similar
question in the future.

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Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 20:56:24 +0100
Subject: Making ports passive

How do you make the ports collection passively ftp files?  Can you even
do it?  Can you do it without having to change every Makefile that you
intend to install? I'm sitting on an ISDN line that loves passive
transfers.

/Jill

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> Hi All,
> Has anyone had any experience with FreeBSD running on AMD chips? The
> handbook mentions
> segmentation faults during compilation (it also says this has been
> fixed).
> If  I could more information on what to look out for, possible
> problems/bugs, or your experience,
> I'd be grateful.

I am running on an AMD-K6 200 MHz and have never had the segfault problem,
or any other for that matter.

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> -----Forwarded message from Jill Rhoads <jrhoads@lector.kth.se>-----
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> From: jrhoads@lector.kth.se (Jill Rhoads)
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> Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 20:56:24 +0100
> Subject: Making ports passive
> 
> How do you make the ports collection passively ftp files?  Can you even
> do it?  Can you do it without having to change every Makefile that you
> intend to install? I'm sitting on an ISDN line that loves passive
> transfers.

You should set "FETCH_BEFORE_ARGS= -p" in /etc/make.conf.

> 
> /Jill
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> 
> How do you make the ports collection passively ftp files?  Can you even
> do it?  Can you do it without having to change every Makefile that you
> intend to install? I'm sitting on an ISDN line that loves passive
> transfers.
> 

In your /etc/make.conf file uncomment the following line.. 

FTP_PASSIVE_MODE=	YES

and below it add..

FETCH_BEFORE_ARGS=	-p

That oughta do it.

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Greetings,

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I am currently trying to install FreeBSD 3.0 on one of my computers. 
I have installed it on the same computer before with no problems. 
When transferring the /bin directory, I get many errors including:

/stand/cpio:  warning:  skipped xxxx bytes of junk
/stand/cpio:  invalid header:  checksum error
/stand/cpio  :  No such file or directory
/stand/gunzip:  <fd:0>:  invalid block type
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.  (In no particular order or number of (same) errors.)

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i may be way off..... but maybe the drives gone bad have you tried
"fsck"???
Leo

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> From: MadMan <madman593@yahoo.com>
> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> Subject: installation errors
> Date: Friday, 05 February 1999 01:44 PM
> 
> I am currently trying to install FreeBSD 3.0 on one of my computers. 
> I have installed it on the same computer before with no problems. 
> When transferring the /bin directory, I get many errors including:
> 
> /stand/cpio:  warning:  skipped xxxx bytes of junk
> /stand/cpio:  invalid header:  checksum error
> /stand/cpio  :  No such file or directory
> /stand/gunzip:  <fd:0>:  invalid block type
> /stand/cpio:  premature end of file
> 
> .  (In no particular order or number of (same) errors.)
> 
> Do you have any suggestions?  (I highly doubt that any changes were
> made between installations.)  Thank you!
> 
> madman593@yahoo.com 
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From: Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
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On Friday,  5 February 1999 at 13:47:54 +1100, Leo Kliger wrote:
>> On Friday, 05 February 1999 01:44 PM, MadMan <madman593@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> I am currently trying to install FreeBSD 3.0 on one of my computers.
>> I have installed it on the same computer before with no problems.
>> When transferring the /bin directory, I get many errors including:
>>
>> /stand/cpio:  warning:  skipped xxxx bytes of junk
>> /stand/cpio:  invalid header:  checksum error
>> /stand/cpio  :  No such file or directory
>> /stand/gunzip:  <fd:0>:  invalid block type
>> /stand/cpio:  premature end of file
>>
>> .  (In no particular order or number of (same) errors.)
>>
>> Do you have any suggestions?  (I highly doubt that any changes were
>> made between installations.)  Thank you!
>
> i may be way off..... but maybe the drives gone bad have you tried
> "fsck"???

Yes, you're probably off.  This is corruption within a single file,
and the original poster didn't even say whether the (cpio) archive was
on disk, though it appears to be a floppy.  I'd guess floppy data
corruption.

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In nlc.lists.freebsd-questions you wrote:
> Seen in FAQ that Smp support was stable since 3.0.

Yep.

> Have critical project soon. First crack with FreeBSD.
> Need to have a recommendation from knowledgeble users as to which 
> motherboard works best with FreeBSD which provides SMP support for
> Pentium II chips at 450 Mhz? I'm looking for a rock solid 
> match between FreeBSD and motherboard.

Did have SMP working a treat a couple of weeks ago. This is on an older
Tyan Tomcat dual Pentium board. Then last week I updated my source
and rebuilt the system. The new SMP kernel couldn't stay up longer
than a couple of minutes. Then I built a non-SMP kernel and it's fine.

If I absolutely needed SMP I would stick with 3.0-RELEASE as found
on the CDROM (or a -SNAP made before the middle of January), or wait
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Jim Mock writes:
> On Wed, 03 Feb 1999 at 19:42:08 -0600, David Kelly wrote:
[...]
> > Now the dumb Communicator 4.5 pops up a window every few minutes 
> > informing me,
> > 
> > 	Netscape is unable to use the mail server because 
> > 	you have not provide a username. Please provide 
> > 	one in the preferences and try again
> > 
> > I don't have any idea what they are talking about as most ever box
> > is filled under Edit->Preferences->Mail & Newsgroups->Identity. And
> > the same for Mail Servers where localhost is listed.
> > 
> > Tried a clean ~/.netscape directory. Didn't do any good.
> > 
> > Is it time to revert to the prior version?
> >
> 
> Nope.  All you need to do is the following..
> 
> Edit -> Preferences -> Mail & Newsgroups -> Mail Servers
> 
> Click the host in the Incoming Mail Servers box, then edit.  Add your
> username for the mail server in there, and it should shut it up =)

I don't receive mail with Netscape, only occasionally send mail.

"It *should* shut it up." ??? Outgoing mail server user name was one of 
the first things I filled in.

Everything in the Preferences->Mail Servers dialog box was filled. By
default the "Incoming Mail Servers" list contained, "pop". And just now
I deleted it. Maybe that is the solution? Am offline at the moment so 
its hard to say if removing POP fixed it. But so far so good!

"Outgoing mail (SMTP) server:" is localhost
"Outgoing mail server user name" is dkelly, which still produced the 
error messages. As did leaving this field blank.

SSL is "never"

Local mail directory is /home/dkelly/nsmail



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running AMD k6-300 and never had this problem you speak of.

maybe it is with the 350's i know that there is a bios update
to fix some timing problems with the 350's on my
motherboard.

it is an epox mvp3 


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> Hi All,
> Has anyone had any experience with FreeBSD running on AMD chips? The
> handbook mentions
> segmentation faults during compilation (it also says this has been
> fixed).
> If  I could more information on what to look out for, possible
> problems/bugs, or your experience,
> I'd be grateful.

I am running on an AMD-K6 200 MHz and have never had the segfault problem,
or any other for that matter.

Kenneth Culver


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On Thu, 04 Feb 1999 at 21:45:05 -0600, David Kelly wrote:
[snip..]
> > Nope.  All you need to do is the following..
> > 
> > Edit -> Preferences -> Mail & Newsgroups -> Mail Servers
> > 
> > Click the host in the Incoming Mail Servers box, then edit.  Add
> > your username for the mail server in there, and it should shut it
> > up =)
> 
> I don't receive mail with Netscape, only occasionally send mail.
>

I don't use it to send or receive, but I still had to add it in order
to stop it from giving errors.
 
> "It *should* shut it up." ??? Outgoing mail server user name was
> one of the first things I filled in.
>

I just checked my settings, and I don't even have Outgoing mail server
user name set.

> Everything in the Preferences->Mail Servers dialog box was filled.
> By default the "Incoming Mail Servers" list contained, "pop". And
> just now I deleted it. Maybe that is the solution? Am offline at the
> moment so its hard to say if removing POP fixed it. But so far so good!
>

Could be.  AFAIK, it considers "pop" the incoming mail server,
therefore requiring a user name.  Deleting it should work as long as
netscape doesn't regenerate the default "pop" server when it's
restarted.

> "Outgoing mail (SMTP) server:" is localhost
> "Outgoing mail server user name" is dkelly, which still produced
> the error messages. As did leaving this field blank.
>

Correct, because it was looking at the Incoming mail server username.

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Hi,
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rabbit is running FreeBSD 3.0 Release and has been for some time now.
In the past weeks it has an annoying tendency of rebooting itself without
explanation.

Is this a known bug or result of some system configuration?

How can I trace this problem?

If the rebooting is deliberate, is a log kept describing the conditions
that may have led to this?

Please let me know what you think... at first I suspected it was a fluke,
but as of late the random reboots occur on almost a daily basis.

-Jack Freelander


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Hey there,

You must also uncomment out the rules in the cf file...

about line 606 in my copy you will find the rules which need to be
uncommented out
#handle virtual users

you can use the sendmail -bt command to test you setup.
/usr/sbin/sendmail -bt
Enter <ruleset> <address>
>0 craig@hotmix.com.au
should show you the return...

cheers
craig

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I was wondering if someone could tell me the line I need to put in my
sendmail.cf to enable virtual users.  I've created /etc/virtusers and
run makemap hash virtusertable.db, etc.  but I can't figure out which
line needs to be inserted to tell sendmail to use the file.
I've tried the stuff in the virtual hosting section of
www.sendmail.org, but it only mentioned a bunch of m4 stuff that didn't
work for me.  I also found somewhere something that suggested adding
Kvirtualusertable hash -o /etc/virtusertable.db but that also doesn't
seem to have worked.

(real names changed to protect the innocent)
sendmail.cw contains domain.com

and
/etc/virtuser contains
user@domain.com	otheruser
user2@domain.com	otheruser2

-Dan


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Also, be sure you have the proper format when running makemap.

The correct format, in your case would be:
makemap hash /etc/virtusertable.db < /etc/virtusertable

Chris

On Fri, 5 Feb 1999, Craig Beasland wrote:

> Hey there,
> 
> You must also uncomment out the rules in the cf file...
> 
> about line 606 in my copy you will find the rules which need to be
> uncommented out
> #handle virtual users
> 
> you can use the sendmail -bt command to test you setup.
> /usr/sbin/sendmail -bt
> Enter <ruleset> <address>
> >0 craig@hotmix.com.au
> should show you the return...
> 
> cheers
> craig
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Dan Dockery
> Sent: Thursday, 4 February 1999 23:16
> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> Subject: Virtual users with sendmail
> 
> 
> I was wondering if someone could tell me the line I need to put in my
> sendmail.cf to enable virtual users.  I've created /etc/virtusers and
> run makemap hash virtusertable.db, etc.  but I can't figure out which
> line needs to be inserted to tell sendmail to use the file.
> I've tried the stuff in the virtual hosting section of
> www.sendmail.org, but it only mentioned a bunch of m4 stuff that didn't
> work for me.  I also found somewhere something that suggested adding
> Kvirtualusertable hash -o /etc/virtusertable.db but that also doesn't
> seem to have worked.
> 
> (real names changed to protect the innocent)
> sendmail.cw contains domain.com
> 
> and
> /etc/virtuser contains
> user@domain.com	otheruser
> user2@domain.com	otheruser2
> 
> -Dan
> 
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hi. i have the 2.2.6 cds that came with greg's second edition book.
however the kernel source included does not support 3c509B cards(at least
it wasn't able to detect it at startup). is there a way for me to compile
a 3.0 kernel (using sources downloaded), on a 2.2.6 system? i tried doing
it but the config program does not match the config file(new keywords not
recognized). i tried tweaking around the file(commenting out those with
unsupported keywords), but the compiler stopped somewhere, after issuing
warnings of "-a.out option not recognized." does this mean i need a newer
compiler?

i have read in one of the docs that i have to get the config binary that
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need? i can't seem to find it on the ftp sites since it's supposed to be
in the /usr/sbin dir, and i only saw those binaries that go in the /bin.
can somebody direct me to the source of the config file?

thanks in advance.

vince.

 


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On Fri, 05 Feb 1999 at 12:23:47 +0800, vince@polgas.ps.admu.edu.ph wrote:
> 
> hi. i have the 2.2.6 cds that came with greg's second edition book.
> however the kernel source included does not support 3c509B cards(at
> least it wasn't able to detect it at startup). is there a way for me
> to compile a 3.0 kernel (using sources downloaded), on a 2.2.6
> system? i tried doing it but the config program does not match the
> config file(new keywords not recognized). i tried tweaking around
> the file(commenting out those with unsupported keywords), but the
> compiler stopped somewhere, after issuing warnings of "-a.out option
> not recognized." does this mean i need a newer compiler?
>

Why don't you just install the driver for the ethernet card?  See
http://www.freebsd.org/~wpaul/3Com/ for more info.

HTH,

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Dear experts
Would you tell something about how to write network card driver in
FreeBSD? By the way please tell the mechanism of interrupt of FreeBSD(
kernel programming)?

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Lawrence Hughes wrote:
> 
> hmmmm.... so many fascinating things to sort out.... where to begin...
<snip>
> 
> 5. With the traditional dual CPU (or quad, 6x, 8x, which takes
>      somewhat more complex motherboards/backplanes), you
>      can get fairly linear scaling of performance with added
>      CPUs. Maybe 3.5X a 1 CPU system with 4 CPUs.

It has also been known to go the other way. I saw a series of benchmarks
about a year ago that had you losing 5% per cpu. The analysis was that
state changes were eating the gains. There are some products that are
designed to work in an SMP environment and they gain throughput with an
increase in cpu's.

> 
> 6. To harvest the performance possible on a SMP (Symmetric
>      Multi Processor), your OS needs to support multi process
>      correctly (can schedule any process on any available CPU)
>      and/or multi-threading. Windows NT can do both. FreeBSD
>      3.0 supports allocating processes across multiple CPUs.
>      (anyone happen to know if the FreeBSD pThreads supports
>      SMP in 3.0, to spread threads in a single process across
>      multiple CPUs?)

I don't have the source but there is a system call PVM that runs on a
series of computers as a virtual machine. It will run in a heterogenus
environment but this can produce strange results if the numerics are
vastly different between cpu's. A PC's 64 bit does not produce identical
results to a DEC Alpha, which is one of the favorites because it
produces identical answers to the older multi-headed Cray's.

I am in the midst of compiling a program that works in that environment.
The make, which uses f77, started 1:55 ago and we still have a ways to
go.

Kent

> 
> 7. Win9x (slightly rewarmed barely 32-bit DOS and Win3.1)
>      can't do much of anything with additional CPUs. Nor can
>     anything from MS prior to those.
> 
> Verstehe?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> Date: Thursday, February 04, 1999 10:29 AM
> Subject: Pentium II install
> 
> >I have been given to understand that the P II is inherently a dual
> >processor, and that under most if not all (ms) operating systems the
> >second processor will idle. The question is what if anything need to be
> >done during or after an initial FreeBSD installation needs to be done to
> >have a functioning dual processor system?
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I need to make an ISO-8859-3 font for syscons.  Can somebody tell me
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When we install freebsd, you rawrite .flp to a floppy and boot from
it.   I don't know how they build the .flp file.  Who know and tell me.
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Hi,

I'm trying to use gethostbyaddr and it is returning blank:

$ipaddress = "216.0.22.30";
($name, $aliases, $addrtype, $length, @addrs) =
gethostbyaddr($ipaddress,AF_INET);  
print "Name: $name\n";
print "Aliases: $aliases\n";
print "Type: $addrtype\n";
print "Length: $length\n";
foreach $p (@addrs) {
  print "A:$p\n";
}
exit;

I grepped for AF_INET in /usr/include and there is nothing there, I did a
man on gethostbyaddr and AF_INET is the only parameter listed for type???

Thank you,
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Hi,

We have a FreeBSD server set up as a fileserver for
our LAN. We want to use all kinds of clients with it. With Windows
95/98 it is not problem, but with DOS 6.22 it can not get hooked on
the server. I can initializate the Ethernet LAN Card, but I need some
kind of shell
to log in on the server. We don't want to use telnet or ftp, we want
to have the drives mapped and work on the fileserver directly.
Can you please help me with this problem?

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> 95/98 it is not problem, but with DOS 6.22 it can not get hooked on
> the server. I can initializate the Ethernet LAN Card, but I need some
> kind of shell
> to log in on the server. We don't want to use telnet or ftp, we want
> to have the drives mapped and work on the fileserver directly.
> Can you please help me with this problem?

Microsoft use to have a client for TCP/IP connections on their web site. 
I'd look there first to see if it's even available still.

					Rick

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Correction,

I found this in /usr/include/net:

netisr.h:#define        NETISR_IP       2               /* same as AF_INET */

but none of these types works...or something else isn't.

I am running FreeBSD 3.0.

At 12:18 AM 2/5/99 -0800, Randy A. Katz wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I'm trying to use gethostbyaddr and it is returning blank:
>
>$ipaddress = "216.0.22.30";
>($name, $aliases, $addrtype, $length, @addrs) =
>gethostbyaddr($ipaddress,AF_INET);  
>print "Name: $name\n";
>print "Aliases: $aliases\n";
>print "Type: $addrtype\n";
>print "Length: $length\n";
>foreach $p (@addrs) {
>  print "A:$p\n";
>}
>exit;
>
>I grepped for AF_INET in /usr/include and there is nothing there, I did a
>man on gethostbyaddr and AF_INET is the only parameter listed for type???
>
>Thank you,
>Randy Katz
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Hi !

How can I mount Novell Netware resources into the FreeBSD 3.0 ?

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>We have a FreeBSD server set up as a fileserver for
>our LAN. We want to use all kinds of clients with it. With Windows
>95/98 it is not problem, but with DOS 6.22 it can not get hooked on
>the server. I can initializate the Ethernet LAN Card, but I need some
>kind of shell
>to log in on the server. We don't want to use telnet or ftp, we want
>to have the drives mapped and work on the fileserver directly.
>Can you please help me with this problem?

Your best friend in this case is probably a combination of the LAN
Manager client for DOS and a copy of Samba.  There should be some links
from samba.org to download the LAN Manager client.  I think it's free
now.

-Dan

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I have FreeBSD installed on a dual partitioned hardrive on a 486 20MB 3.2GB
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i needed a boot overlay program made by syquest to enable be to fully
format the 3.2GB rather than the 540MB bios limit, now the program
automatically selected the size of 1.5GB for each partition , now I am
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>If I absolutely needed SMP I would stick with 3.0-RELEASE as found
>on the CDROM (or a -SNAP made before the middle of January), or wait
>awhile until it's working again. Howeber it may be related to my hardware
>and it may be rock solid for you. I have Adaptec 27something PCI SCSI,
>IDE drives, NE2000 PCI network, 128MB RAM.

I had it working as of yesterday, but I was just running 3.0-RELEASE as
well.  The hard drive died, though.  :/  My motherboard was just a cheapo
Amptron dual-PII with the LX chipset , but it was really fast with a
couple of 333's.  I was quite pleased with the performance....  Now all I
need is a hard drive that I can use with it...  (the one I borrowed, IIRC
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Hello there

i really want to know how you to measure network traffic?
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Hi!

I will set up a new server using FreeBSD 3.0-STABLE, previously I have always 
used "dangerously dedicated" disks on my server installations but recently
I picked up some general info about that not being the best thing in the
world to do. Well, let's just say I don't want to use "dangerously dedicated"
disks anymore.

Do I need "BootEasy" if the computer have all disks dedicated
to FreeBSD (but not using dangerously dedicated), will it boot with
the option "Standard MBR" in sysinstall? Or what do you recommend?

Since it will be a server I will reboot it remotely, therefor I don't 
want a bootmanager whivh requires some user input at the console.

Cheers,

Anders A.

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Hello,

You can measure the traffic through one interface via the commande :

netstat -b -I <interface>

	TfH


kok wrote:
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> Hello there
> 
> i really want to know how you to measure network traffic?
> Third party tools or freebsd built in function?
> 
> Thank you
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  Hello

   I can't install SSH-2.x under FreeBSD-2.2.8. how can i fix it?
  Thanks Dovydas

===>  Installing for ssh-2.0.11
(cd apps/ssh; make install)
/bin/sh ../../mkinstalldirs /usr/local/bin
install -c -s -o bin -g bin -m 555 ssh2 /usr/local/bin/ssh2
......
......
...... 
(cd /usr/local/bin && ln -s sftp-server2 sftp-server)
mv -f /usr/local/sbin/sshd /usr/local/sbin/sshd.old
(cd /usr/local/sbin && ln -s sshd2 sshd)
mv -f /usr/local/man/man1/ssh.1 /usr/local/man/man1/ssh.old.1
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(cd /usr/local/man/man1 && ln -s ssh-add2.1 ssh-add.1)
(cd /usr/local/man/man1 && ln -s ssh-agent2.1 ssh-agent.1)
(cd /usr/local/man/man1 && ln -s ssh-keygen2.1 ssh-keygen.1)
(cd /usr/local/man/man1 && ln -s scp2.1 scp.1)
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(cd /usr/local/man/man8 && ln -s sshd2.8 sshd.8)
===>   Generating temporary packing list
/bin/mv -f /usr/local/man/man1/ssh.1.gz /usr/local/man/man1/ssh.old.1.gz
mv: rename /usr/local/man/man1/ssh.1.gz to
/usr/local/man/man1/ssh.old.1.gz: 
No such file or directory
*** Error code 1

Stop.
*** Error code 1

Stop.
*** Error code 1

Stop.


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I would like to set up a dual cpu (pentium II or III) system that works
well with freebsd 3.0 or higher dual supporting op sys.

Any recommendations?  Vendor info where I can get it woul dbe helpful too!
:)  Thanx

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I remember in the dark days when the kernel wouldn't compile with the
-fomit-frame-pointer option. This was fixed and the source files that
wouldn't compile with the option on were handled by the Makefile compiling
them with -fno-omit-frame-pointer (I think). Fine and dandy.
  However, I note that "make world" still barfs if the option is used.
Specifically, it gets to:

-----
building standard com_err library
ranlib libcom_err.a
cc -pg -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -m486 -pipe
-I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/lib/libcom_err/com_err.c -o
com_err.po
cc: -pg and -fomit-frame-pointer are incompatible
*** Error code 1
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Shouldn't the build process be able to handle this case, as the kernel
build does?
Cheers.

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hi
 My name is Nantayut ,I used FreeBSD 3.0 now ,but i can not work
Cyclades Cyclom-y on FreeBSD,How i can use Cyclades Cyclom-y on FreeBSD.


thank you sir.

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Hi All.

I've got a problem with Netscape 4.5, to which I have just upgraded.
Prior to the upgrade, in outgoing message headers the following
appeared:

Content-Type:
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Since the upgrade, I am getting:

Content-Type:
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On a digest version of another mailing list I'm on, a message I posted
appeared as gobbledy gook.  Someone has posted it back to me, an excerpt
of it follows:

YyBhIGwgaSBiIGEgbiB3cm90ZToNCg0KPiAgICAgICAgIGltbyBhIGdvb2Qgcm9hZGNhc2Ug

aXMgd29ydGggJDEwMCBvbiB0aGUgcHJpY2UNCj4gICAgICAgICBvZiBhIHVzZWQgc3ludGgu

ICB0aGV5IGNvc3Qgd2VsbCBvdmVyIHRoYXQgdG8NCj4gICAgICAgICBtYWtlLg0KPg0KPiBP

A few other people, who aren't just receiving digests, have complained
that my mails are appearing as gobbledy gook.  I've tried sending some
mail internally, via our FreeBSD server.  My test messages appeared ok
on someone's MAC, and had the following in the headers

X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by www-compsci.swan.ac.uk id
JAA11067

I have tried experimenting with the 8-bit versus MIME options in
Edit/Preferences/Messages dialogue box, without success.  I have also
read the documents at:

http://www.lemis.com/email.html

When composing email, I typically use the HTML editor (which is, IMHO,
nicer to use) but convert the message to plain text prior to sending.

I upgraded from FreeBSD 2.2.7 stable to FreeBSD 2.2.8 stable at the same
time as upgrading Netscape (from version 4.0.5, I think).  uname -a
returns the following:

FreeBSD cscall.swan.ac.uk 2.2.8-RELEASE FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE #0: Mon
Nov 30 06:34:08 GMT 1998
jkh@time.cdrom.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC  i386

Any advice on this would be gratefully appreciated.

Thanks in advance

G.

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hi all,

i'm setting up a FreeBSD machine that will act as a router for a network
with 2 points of connection. one is connected to a satellite IDU and the
other one is via PPP to another ISP.

i've read the necessary documents for setting up PPP and how to make FBSD
act as a router. i wanted to make the PPP work on-demand if the default
gateway is not reachable at a certain amount of time.

where can i find document(s) / HOW-TO regarding this issue?

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hi

this is a question about doing something in X under freebsd so probably should
not be asked here but i don't know where else to ask it ... and anyway most of
you will probably be able to answer it anyway - so sorry for the post and here
goes ...

how do i, from a single freebsd machine, bring up displays of other freebsd
machines on the network - not just running apps on them but actual login
screens etc ... like VNC or winX from the land of windoze...

If possible i would like to integrate them into my fvwm2 pager so that each
page is a XDM style login for a different reachable host, maybe running
different window managers .... is this even possible ?

any ideas ?

tia
rudi

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G wrote:
> 
> Hi All.
> 
> I've got a problem with Netscape 4.5, to which I have just upgraded.
> Prior to the upgrade, in outgoing message headers the following
> appeared:
> 

Some more info. I've found a message here that I sent from home using
Communicator 4.5, FreeBSD 2.2.8 (same as you) and the header shows:

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I use the same settings at home as here at work, so it looks like the
HTML composing is the problem.

HTH

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Mark Ovens wrote:
> 
> G wrote:
> >
> This is the header from your message as I received it. It looks fine
> in Communicator 4.5 on SunOS 4.1.3_U1:
> 

<snip>

> X-Mime-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id
> DAA03910

> 
> hub.freebsd.org has converted it from base64 to 8bit.
> 

Yes, I have spotted this also.  If I send it internally, then our server
performs the same conversion.

> > ICB0aGV5IGNvc3Qgd2VsbCBvdmVyIHRoYXQgdG8NCj4gICAgICAgICBtYWtlLg0KPg0KPiBP
> 
> That looks like base64

*grin* I'll take your word for it.  Ah, here's the bit were our servers
does that conversion (when someone *receives* a message from me
internally).

> > X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by www-compsci.swan.ac.uk id
> > JAA11067
> >
> The settings I'm using here (for this reply) are:
> 
> Edit->Preferences->Mail & Newsgroups->Messages
> 
> in the bottom pane I've selected Quoted Printable for 8-bit messages.

this is what I usually have

> and in
> 
> Edit->Preferences->Mail & Newsgroups->Formatting
> 
> I'm using "Use plain text to compose" and "Convert to plain text" for
> HTML (the latter probably has no effect for me as I'm not composing in
> HTML.

*nods*
> 
> I think that if you compose in HTML it is sent as 8bit, which means it
> must be encoded (with base64). Some (most?) Unix mailers can't handle
> this, they expect uuencode.

Well, I wouldn't have thought this would make a difference if its is
converted to plain text anyway, but I've set mine the same as yours for
this message anyhow.

> Does any of this help?

*grin* Well, hopefully we'll find out when this message hits this list.

Many thanks for your reply, anyhow.

Best wishes

G.
> -- 
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Hello.

I have looked at your site quite thouroughly, but I didn't find
information on running FREE BSD on a Windows NT Server machine.
I might have overseen information on that; if so I'm sorry for
bothering you.

I have an Intel Pentium 133 / 32MB Ram and 2 HD with 2 partitions each.
One Harddrive has got the NTFS and the other one has got FAT.
I was wondering what would happen if I installed FREE BSD on one of the
FAT Partitions. Would a MULTI OS BOOT Manager be created or something
like that?

The other information I would like to receive is the SIZE of the
"2.2.8-RELEASE" Folder on your FTP SERVER. Is that the only Folder
I need to download completely to run the basic operating system?

Thanks a lot for your patience.. I hope to hear from you soon.

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G wrote:
> 
> 
> Well, I wouldn't have thought this would make a difference if its is
> converted to plain text anyway, but I've set mine the same as yours for
> this message anyhow.
> 

This is how the header of your message appeared:

Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 13:00:18 +0000
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Note the charset is now "us-ascii" and there is no
"Content-Transfer-Encoding". Curious, the header of the message sent
from my FreeBSD system still had the "Content-Transfer-Encoding:
7-bit" field.

I think that HTML composed messages are assumed to be 8-bit, even when
they omly contain 7-bit chars.

> > Does any of this help?
> 
> *grin* Well, hopefully we'll find out when this message hits this list.
> 

>From my experience, many of the replies will be along the lines of
"....get yourself a proper mailer...." ;-)


> Many thanks for your reply, anyhow.
> 
> Best wishes
> 
> G.
> > --
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> Swansea,
>   Singleton Park, Swansea SA2 8PP. UK. Tel:(+44)1792 295 651
>   Fax:(+44)1792 295 708  E-mail: g.s.j.howell[at]swansea.ac.uk
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In muc.lists.freebsd.questions, you wrote:
 :    I have tried the FAQ and the tutorial and the 'for newbies' section
 : and cannot find help with my problem.  I can't install from either
 : floppies or c:\freebsd on my dos partition (/dev/wd0).

You don't mention which release but it's likely to be 3.0, in which
case this note from the ERRATA.TXT may be helpful...

o DOS partition installs fail to find the installation bits.

Fix: Rename C:\FREEBSD to C:\3.0-RELEASE and retry the installation.
     The naming syntax was changed to make DOS more like the other
     types of installation media but the docs on DOS installation
     were not updated properly to reflect this.  The current sysinstall
     now accepts both locations, as it should have to begin with.



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Patrick Anthofer wrote:
> 
> Hello.
> 
> I have looked at your site quite thouroughly, but I didn't find
> information on running FREE BSD on a Windows NT Server machine.
> I might have overseen information on that; if so I'm sorry for
> bothering you.
> 
> I have an Intel Pentium 133 / 32MB Ram and 2 HD with 2 partitions each.
> One Harddrive has got the NTFS and the other one has got FAT.
> I was wondering what would happen if I installed FREE BSD on one of the
> FAT Partitions. Would a MULTI OS BOOT Manager be created or something
> like that?

FreeBSD needs it's own partition. You can use Partition Magic to
create some free space on your disk, or use "fips", available from the
FreeBSD Website.

FreeBSD does come with a Boot Manager, but if you're running NT it is
better (IMHO) to add FreeBSD to the NT boot menu, see the FAQ for
details

> 
> The other information I would like to receive is the SIZE of the
> "2.2.8-RELEASE" Folder on your FTP SERVER. Is that the only Folder
> I need to download completely to run the basic operating system?
> 

You need ~60MB disk space for a minimum binary only (no X-windows or
source) system. Go to http://www.freebsd.org and follow the links
(near the bottom of the page) for installing

HTH



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FreeBSD,

I am running FreeBSD 2.2.7 on a Millenium II by Matrox. I have installed
X windows and KDE desktop. I have installed an appropiate driver for the
sound card and rebuilt my Kernel.

I want to open kmpeg 1,2,3 so that i can play audio files. I haven't got
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on the icons I simply get the browser option "open with". I can't open
the file with anything that is in the toolbar menu.

How do I go about opening such files ? Do I have to move the files to
another location? Can i open them using the Unix terminal ? Do I need
additional files (i.e. shell file) ? 

If you could give me any information I would be very grateful.

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Is the sat downsteam only and upsteam PPP via isp?


On Fri, 5 Feb 1999, Francis A. Vidal wrote:

> hi all,
> 
> i'm setting up a FreeBSD machine that will act as a router for a network
> with 2 points of connection. one is connected to a satellite IDU and the
> other one is via PPP to another ISP.
> 
> i've read the necessary documents for setting up PPP and how to make FBSD
> act as a router. i wanted to make the PPP work on-demand if the default
> gateway is not reachable at a certain amount of time.
> 
> where can i find document(s) / HOW-TO regarding this issue?
> 
> -- 
> francis vidal   university of st. la salle, bacolod city, philippines
> . . . . . . .   PGP key available via e-mail / subject: get PGP key
> u s l s N E T   tel. nos. (6334).435.2324 / 433.3526
> 
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On Fri, 5 Feb 1999, David Beckett wrote:

> I want to open kmpeg 1,2,3 so that i can play audio files. I haven't got
> a clue on how to open the files, if I try to open the files by clicking
> on the icons I simply get the browser option "open with". I can't open
> the file with anything that is in the toolbar menu.
May be the appropriate mp3 kdelnk files are missing. They would bind
files with some mime type to applications in this case mp[123] files to
kmpeg.
What version of KDE do you have - the newer releases include these files
or you can create them from kfm.
>=20
> How do I go about opening such files ? Do I have to move the files to
> another location? Can i open them using the Unix terminal ? Do I need
> additional files (i.e. shell file) ?=20
I attached the shellscript, it's only parameter is the name of the file
you want to open by kfm. But it'll require that kfm knows what to do with
the file to open.=20

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On Fri, 5 Feb 1999, hometeam wrote:

> Is the sat downsteam only and upsteam PPP via isp?

the satellite connection is upstream and downstream (at different rates).
most of the time, the satellite connection would be very slow (close to
80-90 percent packet loss).

if possible, i will redirect the entire traffic to the PPP connection and
remove the PPP connection as soon as i get satisfactory results from the
sat connection (automatically).

> On Fri, 5 Feb 1999, Francis A. Vidal wrote:
> 
> > hi all,
> >
> > i'm setting up a FreeBSD machine that will act as a router for a network
> > with 2 points of connection. one is connected to a satellite IDU and the
> > other one is via PPP to another ISP.
> >
> > i've read the necessary documents for setting up PPP and how to make FBSD
> > act as a router. i wanted to make the PPP work on-demand if the default
> > gateway is not reachable at a certain amount of time.
> >
> > where can i find document(s) / HOW-TO regarding this issue?

[snipped]

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I am using a sat also with a router my upsteam via router...Haven't
found anything that would allow routing traffic across both gateways
at the same time. Your setup seems similar except I would like to load
balance between them. I have not found a simple solution with freebsd.
Linux have something that allows encapsulating ppp conection. load sharing
two modems. with sat not being upsteam is my problem.

I would think your problem could be worked out...Why so much packet loss?
 
I know I am not helping your question I just Don't see many Sat question..

I see Sat's as the way of the future...in comunications. :)

Get enough people maybe a SAT/FreeBsd list:)


On Fri, 5 Feb 1999, Francis A. Vidal wrote:

> On Fri, 5 Feb 1999, hometeam wrote:
> 
> > Is the sat downsteam only and upsteam PPP via isp?
> 
> the satellite connection is upstream and downstream (at different rates).
> most of the time, the satellite connection would be very slow (close to
> 80-90 percent packet loss).
> 
> if possible, i will redirect the entire traffic to the PPP connection and
> remove the PPP connection as soon as i get satisfactory results from the
> sat connection (automatically).
> 
> > On Fri, 5 Feb 1999, Francis A. Vidal wrote:
> > 
> > > hi all,
> > >
> > > i'm setting up a FreeBSD machine that will act as a router for a network
> > > with 2 points of connection. one is connected to a satellite IDU and the
> > > other one is via PPP to another ISP.
> > >
> > > i've read the necessary documents for setting up PPP and how to make FBSD
> > > act as a router. i wanted to make the PPP work on-demand if the default
> > > gateway is not reachable at a certain amount of time.
> > >
> > > where can i find document(s) / HOW-TO regarding this issue?
> 
> [snipped]
> 
> -- 
> francis vidal   university of st. la salle, bacolod city, philippines
> . . . . . . .   PGP key available via e-mail / subject: get PGP key
> u s l s N E T   tel. nos. (6334).435.2324 / 433.3526
> 
> 


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At 3:18 AM -0500 2/5/1999, Randy A. Katz wrote:
>I'm trying to use gethostbyaddr and it is returning blank:
>
>$ipaddress = "216.0.22.30";
>($name, $aliases, $addrtype, $length, @addrs) =
>gethostbyaddr($ipaddress,AF_INET);  
>print "Name: $name\n";
>print "Aliases: $aliases\n";
>print "Type: $addrtype\n";
>print "Length: $length\n";
>foreach $p (@addrs) {
>  print "A:$p\n";
>}
>exit;
>
>I grepped for AF_INET in /usr/include and there is nothing there, I did a
>man on gethostbyaddr and AF_INET is the only parameter listed for type???

Here is an example I had:

#!/usr/local/bin/perl
for (@ARGV) {
    split(/\./);
    splice(@_, $#_, 0, (0) x (4-@_));  # inet_addr conversion
    @hostent = gethostbyaddr(pack(C4, @_), 2);
    printf "[%s] is %s\n", join('.', @_), $hostent[0] || "<UNKNOWN>";
}

It looks like the IP address format is your problem.

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On Fri, 5 Feb 1999, hometeam wrote:

> I am using a sat also with a router my upsteam via router...Haven't
> found anything that would allow routing traffic across both gateways
> at the same time. Your setup seems similar except I would like to load
> balance between them. I have not found a simple solution with freebsd.
> Linux have something that allows encapsulating ppp conection. load
> sharing two modems. with sat not being upsteam is my problem.

if it's not possible at all. i'll just turn off the sat connection and use
the PPP link.

> I would think your problem could be worked out...Why so much packet
> loss?

it's a shitty satellite provider.

> I know I am not helping your question I just Don't see many Sat
> question..
> 
> I see Sat's as the way of the future...in comunications. :)
> 
> Get enough people maybe a SAT/FreeBsd list:)

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Mark Ovens wrote:
> 
> G wrote:
> >
> >
> > Well, I wouldn't have thought this would make a difference if its is
> > converted to plain text anyway, but I've set mine the same as yours for

> Mime-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Note the charset is now "us-ascii" and there is no
> "Content-Transfer-Encoding". Curious, the header of the message sent
> from my FreeBSD system still had the "Content-Transfer-Encoding:
> 7-bit" field.
> 
> I think that HTML composed messages are assumed to be 8-bit, even when
> they omly contain 7-bit chars.

How wrong I was, eh?  It appears that you are correct.  Its weird, 'cos
I always used to use the HTML composer in Netscape 4.05 - its only
because it makes a slightly better job of quoting messages that you're
replying to.

Oh well, I'll struggle through some how.  *grin*

> >From my experience, many of the replies will be along the lines of
> "....get yourself a proper mailer...." ;-)

Mercifully, I haven't had any of them, yet.  Phew.  ;o}

Many thanks Mark.  You're help is very much appreciated.

Best wishes

G.

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Sorry guys, but while I was preparing this e-mail I clicked on Send which
sent the message unfinished.
After apologizing I want to ask if some one has a clue on what could be the
problem with these messages, and if it is other place where I can confirm
the disk has a problem.

I'm running FreeBSD 2.2.2, sendmail 8.9.1 and SCSI-2 HD.

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Mark Powell <M.S.Powell@ais.salford.ac.uk> wrote:
> I remember in the dark days when the kernel wouldn't compile with the
> -fomit-frame-pointer option. This was fixed and the source files that
> wouldn't compile with the option on were handled by the Makefile compiling
> them with -fno-omit-frame-pointer (I think). Fine and dandy.
>   However, I note that "make world" still barfs if the option is used.
> Specifically, it gets to:
> 
> -----
> building standard com_err library
> ranlib libcom_err.a
> cc -pg -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -m486 -pipe
> -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/lib/libcom_err/com_err.c -o
> com_err.po
> cc: -pg and -fomit-frame-pointer are incompatible
> *** Error code 1
> -----
> 
> Shouldn't the build process be able to handle this case, as the kernel
> build does?

The kernel doesn't have to deal with this case unless you run 
'config -p KERNEL', because it doesn't do profiling by default.

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> Do I need "BootEasy" if the computer have all disks dedicated
> to FreeBSD (but not using dangerously dedicated), will it boot with
> the option "Standard MBR" in sysinstall? Or what do you recommend?

You do not need BootEasy.  BootEasy is for machines with multiple operating
system generally.  

Good Luck,

Nathan

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Hello there

Suddenly i rcvd mail very slow.  could u tell me how to i check it?
protocols, or what?

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Hello,

I tried to update my current 2.2.6-Release system to RELENG_3. When I
was makeing buildworld, I got the following errors. Can someone help me
fix it? 

Thanks a lot!


--------------------------------------------------------------
>>> Rebuilding bootstrap libraries
--------------------------------------------------------------
.........

 /usr/src/lib/csu/i386-elf/crtbegin.c -o crtbegin.o
/usr/src/lib/csu/i386-elf/crtbegin.c:30: section attributes are not
supported for this target
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supported for this target
{standard input}: Assembler messages:
{standard input}:73: Error: Unknown pseudo-op:  `.section'
*** Error code 1

Stop.
*** Error code 1

Stop.
*** Error code 1

Stop.
*** Error code 1

Stop.
*** Error code 1

Stop.


-- Xiaowei

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hi,
I try to install freebsd 2.2.8 on IBM Netfinity 5500 whit raid5 disk ,but 
it doesn't recognized the ibm_pci_servraid ....the message said ..disk 
controller not found when I selected
Novice installation...

Thank - regards Pino Lauto


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The samba webpage has some good information on what clients are available,
and their relative merits.

[RC]

On Fri, 5 Feb 1999, Rastislav Gulasa wrote:

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> Hi,
> 
> We have a FreeBSD server set up as a fileserver for
> our LAN. We want to use all kinds of clients with it. With Windows
> 95/98 it is not problem, but with DOS 6.22 it can not get hooked on
> the server. I can initializate the Ethernet LAN Card, but I need some
> kind of shell
> to log in on the server. We don't want to use telnet or ftp, we want
> to have the drives mapped and work on the fileserver directly.
> Can you please help me with this problem?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> gulasa@cetis.savba.sk
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I think we're using the SVGA server, on 3.3.3.1.

I think there is info about this on the Xfree site.

Also, you need to run the text mode setup script, the visual mode setup
uses the VGA server, and it is not compatible with the 6326 chipset.

[RC]


On Fri, 5 Feb 1999, Chris wrote:

> Hi
> 
>    Which X-server do you install to successfully get into X-window?
>    I use SIS-6326 display chip as my display card!!
> 
> 
>                
> 


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Hi.

I am trying to write my own system call functions for BSD.
I am trying to calculate the maximum amount of memory a PC needs
when it is used as a router.
First, I declare "u_long max_memused" in /usr/src/sys/sys/mbuf.h.

Second, I add following code in m_devget function in
/usr/src/sys/kern/uipc_mbuf.c.

	u_long mem_used = size of memory currently used by mbufs and clusters.
	if(mem_used > max_memused) max_memused = mem_used;

Third, I make prototype for my system calls in mbuf.h like following.
	
	long get_mem_stat __P((void));
	void clear_mem_stat __P((void));

Fourth, I declare above system calls in uipc_mbuf.c like following.

	long get_mem_stat(){
		return (long) max_memused;
	}
	void clear_mem_stat(){
		max_memused = 0;
	}

Fifth, I put entries in init_sysent.c like following.

	struct sysent sysent[] = {
		/*......*/
		{0, (*sy_call)get_mem_stat},	/*241 = get_mem_stat */
		{0, (*sy_call)clear_mem_stat},  /*242 = clear_mem_stat */
		/* ..... */
	};
	
	the 241th and 242th wer originally looked like {0, (*sy_call)no_sys},

finally, I put entries in syscalls.c

	"get_mem_stat"		/*241 = get_mem_stat*/
	"clear_mem_stat" 	/*242 = clear_mem_stat*/
	
	they were originally "no_sys".

Now, I recompile the kernel and reboot.  but kernel library is not updated.
I copy /usr/src/sys/sys/mbuf.h to /usr/include/sys/mbuf.h.
I write a small program which includes <sys/mbuf.h> and calls get_mem_stat
and clear_mem_stat system calls.

Whe I compile, I get
"get_mem_stat" : undefined reference from the text segent"
"clear_mem_stat" : undefined reference from the text segent"

What did I do wrong?
Any help on this matter will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
-James Kwon 

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I was wanting to run tcpdump, but I really didn't want to expose my
system to the vulnerability of having /dev/bpf0 configured.  I was
wondering if anyone has succeeded in implementing the Berekely Packet
Filter as a loadable kernel module.  If so I would love to see the source.
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Hi,

Does anyone know how much these 2 cost ?

Fore PCA-200E
Efficient ENI-155p

TIA
M.C Wong



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On Fri, Feb 05, 1999 at 04:40:19PM +0100, Lauto <plauto@ismes.it> wrote:

> hi,
> I try to install freebsd 2.2.8 on IBM Netfinity 5500 whit raid5 disk ,but 
> it doesn't recognized the ibm_pci_servraid ....the message said ..disk 
> controller not found when I selected
> Novice installation...

FreeBSD doesn't support IBM ServeRaid controllers :(
-- 

Vallo Kallaste
vallo@matti.ee

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> Oh well, I'll struggle through some how.  *grin*
> 
> > >From my experience, many of the replies will be along the lines of
> > "....get yourself a proper mailer...." ;-)
> 
> Mercifully, I haven't had any of them, yet.  Phew.  ;o}

Let me be the first then :-)

Seriously, netscape is barely useful in its real role as a web
browser and is completely unsuited to taking on other tasks on
top of that.  Why "struggle" with it when Unix systems have a
plethora of *good* mail user agents, all of which allow you to
use the editor of your choice to do the serious part of the job
while providing a range of configurable options to control the
way the mail is handled.

Sure, you have to learn how to use these things, but that's true
of anything that's worth using.  And you already know how to use
your editor, so that frees you from learning that part.

-- 
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> Is anyone up to providing a brief description of what a logbook should look
> like or how it should be organized [...]

It should look however you would like it to look and it should
be organized in a way that you find useful.  The only absolute
requirement is that it be on paper so that, when you are dealing
with a machine that has been totally trashed, your helpful notes
are still accessible.

The point is to come up with something that *you* will find
useful if you need to know later on what you did.  This means
that it should be easy for you to find the information when you
want it, and it should be easy for you to add to it when you
need to do that.  And, if other people might need the info, it
needs to be kept in a way that will be useful to them as well.

I personally use 6x4inch index cards, with a topic word at the
top of each card, and keep the cards in an alphabetically sorted
and indexed box.  If there is too much info for a single card
under one topic, it's easy to add a second or third card -- or
to re-write the cards more effectively in the light of later
experience.  And it means that, when something could be put
under more than one topic, I can put a card under each possible
topic which just says "see xxx".

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You may also want to check /var/log/messages and do a "df -k" to see if
you're running out of space on the partition that /var/spool/mqueue
resides on.

To check the current status of queued undelivered mail issue the "mailq"
command.

If there is mail setting in the queue you can try to resend it by running
"sendmail -q" as root.

You can watch /var/log/messages and /var/log/maillog to see if any weird
errors are popping up.  If you're running X windows you can "tail -f
/var/log/maillog" in another xterm before before reprocessing queued mail
to see what is going on.



On Fri, 5 Feb 1999, Joe Orthoefer wrote:

> Typically it indicates that there was a network error returned while
> having an smtp conversation with the servers it is trying to spool mail
> to. Either your machine or the particualar smtp hosts receiving the mail
> are on a congested or unreliable link. 
> 
> On Fri, 5 Feb 1999, FreeBSD Questions wrote:
> 
> > -- [ From: FreeBSD Questions * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] --
> > 
> > Sorry guys, but while I was preparing this e-mail I clicked on Send which
> > sent the message unfinished.
> > After apologizing I want to ask if some one has a clue on what could be the
> > problem with these messages, and if it is other place where I can confirm
> > the disk has a problem.
> > 
> > I'm running FreeBSD 2.2.2, sendmail 8.9.1 and SCSI-2 HD.
> > 
> > This a report I rteceive every day:
> > 
> > mail:
> > 		Mail Queue (25 requests)
> > --Q-ID-- --Size-- -----Q-Time----- ------------Sender/Recipient------------
> > VAA17870*  378390 Thu Feb  4 21:49 <mredmond@netsys.hn>
> >                  (I/O error)
> > 				   <beverlyk@las.co.za> WAA21580   171549 Thu Feb  4 22:26
> > <mredmond@netsys.hn>
> >                  (I/O error)
> > 				   <mredmond@ipinc.net> VAA11493*  330093 Thu Feb  4 21:25 MAILER-DAEMON
> >                  (I/O error)
> > 				   <occhiali@usa.net>
> > <bancorp@netsys.hn>
> >       8BITMIME   (I/O error)
> > 				   <102213.601@compuserve.com>
> > 
> > 
> > Pablo Quintana
> > HONDURAS
> > 
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OOOOooooooooppppppppsssssss!!!!!!!!

I screwed up
here's what happens
Feb  5 10:42:53 mnemo ls: /etc/pwd.db: Permission
denied
Feb  5 10:49:13 mnemo login: login_getclass: retrieving
class
information: Permi
ssion denied
Feb  5 10:49:16 mnemo login: login_getclass: retrieving
class
information: Permi
ssion denied
Feb  5 10:49:20 mnemo pine: /etc/pwd.db: Permission
denied
Feb  5 10:49:57 mnemo pine: /etc/pwd.db: Permission
denied

what I did was change the permissions on pwd.db to chmod
600 so that only the root could view the file
since then I changed it to 640 I still get the same
message. ???
what's with login_getclass?? I don't see that file in
/etc/ at all and
those are the only files I touched. I mean I went through everything in
/etc/ to minimize access and increase security for those files.

I just did another login test and see how the
login_getclass is related
to logging in, but not where the file being access is located or what it
is called

anyhow I must have been too restrictive on some of
those files in /etc/

I don't have a reference on this though.

Perhaps someone can post a list of suitable permissions for files in the
/etc/ directory?

Or if you know of why this is happening please tel me.

Thanks so much

Phil
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On Fri, 5 Feb 1999, Randy A. Katz wrote:
> I'm trying to use gethostbyaddr and it is returning blank:
> 
> $ipaddress = "216.0.22.30";
> ($name, $aliases, $addrtype, $length, @addrs) =
> gethostbyaddr($ipaddress,AF_INET);  
> print "Name: $name\n";

Two things.  If you are hardcoding the IP address use

$ipaddress = inet_aton("216.0.22.30");

gethostbyaddr expects $ipaddress to be a four byte "struct".

Second, perldoc Socket says that gethostbyaddr just returns a scalar
name, not a list.

Dan
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Hi!

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I am currently using Squid-2 as my caching proxy, on 3.0-RELEASE.

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Charlie ROOT wrote,
> I was wanting to run tcpdump, but I really didn't want to expose my
> system to the vulnerability of having /dev/bpf0 configured.  I was
> wondering if anyone has succeeded in implementing the Berekely Packet
> Filter as a loadable kernel module.  If so I would love to see the source.
> Thanks.

Oy, I guess you are not a party to the lengthy discussion on
freebsd-security on BPF. A few questions:

1) Why is having /dev/bpf0 configured a security vulnerability? Only
root can use the device, and if root is comprimised, it seems
/dev/bpf0 is the least of your worries. The intruder can rebuild the
kernel with BPF enabled and use it anyway, only plus is you might
notice the restart (hopefully if you are concerned with security,
you'd notice root being broken before then).

2) If /dev/bpf0 is a loadable module, only root can load it... but
what is the security advantage there? Only root could use the device
before, now root just needs to load the module before it uses it. I
don't get it.

You might want to take this to freebsd-security... if you have some
flame-retardant underoos.
-- 
Crist J. Clark                           cjclark@home.com

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I currently have a pc with NT as the only OS. I would like install
another 6 gig drive and make it a BSD drive, and be able to switch
between the two.  Is this possible, and if so, what can I read to help
me accomplish this task?

Thanks
Alan


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Typically it indicates that there was a network error returned while
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are on a congested or unreliable link. 

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On Fri, Feb 05, 1999 at 06:02:13PM +0300, Eugene Vasilchenko wrote:
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> Can you tell me, does FreeBSD supporting the MPU specifications ? In other words, can I install FreeBSD on the server with two P2 processors ?

Yes. Just use FreeBSD 3.0. 2.2.x don't have multiprocessor support. Let me know 
if you need help configuring it.

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Hello!

I've recently fetched and built XFree86 3.3.3.1, and some programs (most 
notably xterm and xemacs 20.4, built from ports also) fails to input Russian 
letters, using either locale or .xmodmap method.

What should I set up? I've tried config file from my (_working_) XFree 3.3.3, 
but it didn't help :-(

Alex.
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I tried to get the star office from the ports collection running, however, it does not :(

Linux compat is enabled in rc.conf, the linux lkm is loaded, 
and the linux compatibility suite is installed from .../emulators/linux_lib

now, whatever I do, it  tries to run (for obvious reasons) 
/usr/local/Staroffice-3.1/linux-x86/bin/setup
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..../setup: can't resolve symbol '_DefaultRuneLocale'
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any pointers, please ?

Kiril




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I installed 2.2.5 on an old 386 ( 8mg RAM, 2 500 mg HD) a year or so ago
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the same machine (clean) and cannot even get to the install menu with the
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Hi all,

I recently purchased a scanner which came with a PCI SCSI
board known as AEC-6710D, a.k.a. ACARD ATP870IU-C .

I'm now looking for a FreeBSD driver for this board, does
someone know if there is one, and where it can be found ?

I don't feel comfortable porting the Linux driver myself
(driver source available from www.acard.com), but I would
be happy to help if someone is working on this.

Thanks in advance,


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Why is all the Windows managers requesting xpm.4 when xpm is 3.4?
These are ports from stable 3.0




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Hi, i am getting crazy once i wish to change from 2.2.8 stable to 3.0
stable and in FreeBSD Brazillian mailing lists simply cannot help me.
Changing from 2.2.7 release to 2.2.8 stable where easy, all i had to do
was to read The complete FreeBSD (Greg Lehey), but know, it's different!
Changing from 2.2.8 stable to 3.0 stable is different. There is more
task than usual, right ?
One friend told me that i need to make world first, change some
configurations files in /etc and then build my kernel, but i would like
a step by step guide about howto do it?
Is there any good soul here to help?

Thank you for your time and cooperation.

PS: i nobody in freebsd homeland can help me, no othet place i'll get
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>Is there any "automatic proxy configuration" server daemon available for
>FreeBSD?
>I am currently using Squid-2 as my caching proxy, on 3.0-RELEASE.


No automatic, but if you install webmin (http://www.webmin.com) you can
configure it (and a lot of services) via web.

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> > Microsoft use to have a client for TCP/IP connections on their web site. 
> > I'd look there first to see if it's even available still.

> Well it looks like that they don't have it there anymore. Can you 
> advise me where else can I find it or how can I solve this problem?

	Check out ftp.microsoft.com/bussys/Clients/MSCLIENT



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Hi,

   Thanks for even looking at this e-mail. There have been so many posts
with CDROM problems all of which i should probably have been reading, but
I decided that Linux installation from cdrom went well, fbsd would be
easy too. Not the case. :(

 
Here's my problem, I got the boot floppy, starts ok. I partiton my drive,
ok. The it comes to finding the source where to install from. I select
cdrom, but all i get is an detect error. 

Now I'm trying to pass some options at the boot: prompt, but not sure what
I'm supposed to type. I tried the following:

1:wdc(0,a)-C
1:wd(2,a) -C
1:mcd(0,a)

I get

Can't find <the above tries>

The cdrom is a generic ATAPI drive (Linux had it as CDR-S1G). 


If anyone could give me hand, I would much appreciate it.

Thanks in advance.

Peter


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Joel Ray Holveck <joelh@gnu.org> wrote:

> I need to make an ISO-8859-3 font for syscons.  Can somebody tell me
> the format for the font files in /usr/share/syscons/fonts?

Well, it's not that difficult to figure out. These files are uuencoded
versions of the actual font image. vidcontrol(1) will happily load both
uuencoded and raw files.

The format of the raw font image is straightforward:
- Each character is composed of <n> scan lines. There are fonts with 8,
  14, and 16 scan lines.
- Each scan line is simply a byte => all characters are eight pixels
  wide.
- There is no interleaving, i.e. bytes (0..n)*m make up character <m>.
- There are 256 characters total.

Basically you can check out a font with hd(1).

$ uudecode /usr/share/syscons/fonts/iso-8x16.fnt
$ hd iso-8x16 | less

Fonts with 16 scan lines are convenient, because that makes 1 character
== 16 bytes exactly one line in hd(1)'s output. (Of course you can
define your own dump format with hexdump(1).) So the line at 0x210 will
be character 0x21:

00000210 00 00 18 3c 3c 3c 18 18 18 00 18 18 00 00 00 00  |...<<<..........|

Let's draw that in our mind's eye:

00  ........
00  ........
18  ...xx...
3C  ..xxxx..
3C  ..xxxx..
3C  ..xxxx..
18  ...xx...
18  ...xx...
18  ...xx...
00  ........
18  ...xx...
18  ...xx...
00  ........
00  ........
00  ........
00  ........

Hey, that's an exclamation mark! As if we didn't know. ;-)

As I mentioned, each character is eight pixels wide. Now if you check
out the glyph of, say, an 'M' in fonts similar to the default VGA one,
you'll notice that the glyph has set pixels over the full width.
Nevertheless, when you type MMMM, the characters don't run into each
other, there's always an unset pixel in between. That's a feature of the
VGA character generator. "But", you might throw in, "there are line
drawing characters that can be combined without any empty space in
between". Right. This is due to another idiosyncracy of the VGA
character generator. For characters at positions 0xC0 through 0xDF the
eighth column is displayed as the ninth column as well.

For the upper half of an ISO 8859-x font you might want to actually use
positions 0x80..0x9F, 0xE0..0xFF, and use a screen map (/usr/share/
syscons/scrnmaps) to map 0xC0..0xDF -> 0x80..0x9F in order to circumvent
the doubling of the eighth column for alphabetic characters.

Back to font formats, there is a "PSF" format, which may be of some
interest, since xmbdfed(1) (available as a port, requires Motif or
Lesstif) can edit PSF fonts directly. A PSF font is just the same as a
syscons font with a 4-byte header prepended: 0x36 0x04 0x00 <n>, where
<n> is the number of scan lines.

> Has this format the same in 2.2.8 and -current?

The above holds true for CURRENT, but I don't see why this should have
been changed for the last decade. ;-)

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To install WindowMaker 0.51.0 i need LibPropList.
I got PropList 0.8.3 version and i installed it as told in INSTALL file
guide:
./configure && make && make isntall

No problem

the problem comes now!!!!!!!

I am trying to get The Latest WindowMaker version working on my system,
but when i tried to ./configure it, i get the following error:

.....
.....
.....
checking for shmget... yes
checking for PLGetString in -lPropList... no

ERROR!!! libPropList is not installed, or could not be found.
         Window Maker requires libPropList to build.
         Please read INSTALL to find where you can find libPropList,
         and install it first.

How can i fix it ?
Did anybody have the same problem ?

Thank you for your time and cooperation.

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On Fri, 5 Feb 1999, Victor Carranza wrote:

> Hi!
> 
> Is there any "automatic proxy configuration" server daemon available for
> FreeBSD?
> I am currently using Squid-2 as my caching proxy, on 3.0-RELEASE.

There is no such animal.  Automatic proxy configuration, in IE and
Navigator, at least, is handled by a simple Javascript-like text file.
If I recall correctly, there is an example of this in the Squid FAQ.  
See http://squid.nlanr.net.  It also is not totally automatic
configuration, since you still need to configure the client to grab
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Hello, 
      I am using Free BSD  2.1.5-RELEASE and finding that the call 
getrlimit() is behaving weirdly. it returns a value of 0, which means 
success. But the value returned in the second parameter 
rlp->rlim_cur, is -1 !! 

      The parameters passed are : 
        first parameter is RLIMIT_NOFILE, 
        second parameter is a pointer to the struct rlimit. 

      Is there any file which has to be modified to get the correct value? 
Or any information regarding this call will be useful. 

thanks, 
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How can a postscript document be printed to a normal printer from the 
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I don't have X, but I do have a few postscript documents I wouldn't mind 
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On Fri, Feb 05, 1999 at 06:37:54PM -0500, Troy Settle wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 25 Jan 1999, Joseph M. Scott wrote:
> 
> > 
> > On Tue, 26 Jan 1999, Leif Neland wrote:
> > 
> > > I'm looking for a dummy pop3-server, which can authorize anybody, and just
> > > send a single message: 'Hey dummy, we have moved the pop3-server; don't
> > > use this ip-adress, use the name: "mail.our.domain" instead.'
> > 
> > 	You could also forward all pop3 traffic to the new machine.  It's
> > probably unlikely that the people checking their email will ever get the "
> > the pop server is now at : whatever_ip", though this may depend largely on
> > the mail client.
> > 
> 
> 
> I'm trying to redirect port 110 traffic to the appropriate host.  I had
> thought that running a simple script to telnet over would do the trick,
> but at least one MUA doesn't seem to like it much (works great by telnet).
> 
> Anyways, I looked at the man page for ipfw(8), and tried to figure out
> that divert thing, but it makes no sense in the context of the man page.
> Can anyone shed some light on this?
> 
> Or, if anyone has a perl or C proggy that just opens a transparent socket
> to another host, I'd appreciate it.

There's a simple way to do it. First, install two ports:
/usr/ports/sysutils/ucspi-tcp and /usr/ports/net/netcat. Then, on the old host,
run (as root):

tcpserver 0 110 nc newhost.com 110 &

where newhost.com is the name of the new POP host. That's all there is to it!
Connections to port 110 on the old host will be connected to port 110 on the
new host.

Chris

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On Fri, 5 Feb 1999, Gustavo Vieira G C Rios wrote:

> To install WindowMaker 0.51.0 i need LibPropList.
> I got PropList 0.8.3 version and i installed it as told in INSTALL file
> guide:
> ./configure && make && make isntall
> 
> No problem
> 
> the problem comes now!!!!!!!
> 
> I am trying to get The Latest WindowMaker version working on my system,
> but when i tried to ./configure it, i get the following error:
> 
> .....
> .....
> .....
> checking for shmget... yes
> checking for PLGetString in -lPropList... no
> 
> ERROR!!! libPropList is not installed, or could not be found.
>          Window Maker requires libPropList to build.
>          Please read INSTALL to find where you can find libPropList,
>          and install it first.
> 
> How can i fix it ?
> Did anybody have the same problem ?

Just untar libPropList-0.8.3.tar.gz into WindowMaker dir and rename
it
into libPropList. You'll merely reinstall it again.

> 
> Thank you for your time and cooperation.
> 

Hope this helps,
Vladimir

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 Greetings all
 I had been working with a gigabit ethernet card called G-Nic from a company
called Packet Engines ( www.packetengines.com ) and a driver that worked
fairly well with FreeBSD 2.2.X. 

 I need to upgrade my systems to 3.0 and P.E. gave me a free upgrade to
their new Gnic2 which supposedly had a 3.X driver only to find it does not
work. I would guess becouse of all the recent changes in 3.0. They keep
promising a driver, but I really need one NOW.

 My question: does anyone else know of a Gigabit Ethernet Card with drivers
that work on 3.0, or would anyone be interested in writing a driver? (requiring
an NDA with P.E)


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  Nicole



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Vladimir Kushnir wrote:
> Hope this helps,
> Vladimir

No, it did not help ?
Any other tips ?


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Jim Mock writes:
> On Thu, 04 Feb 1999 at 21:45:05 -0600, David Kelly wrote:
> > Everything in the Preferences->Mail Servers dialog box was filled.
> > By default the "Incoming Mail Servers" list contained, "pop". And
> > just now I deleted it. Maybe that is the solution? Am offline at the
> > moment so its hard to say if removing POP fixed it. But so far so good!
> >
> 
> Could be.  AFAIK, it considers "pop" the incoming mail server,
> therefore requiring a user name.  Deleting it should work as long as
> netscape doesn't regenerate the default "pop" server when it's
> restarted.

That seems to be the solution, delete the incoming mail server default. 
I moved .netscape out of the way and forced it to create anew, and POP 
was inserted as the incoming mail server. Once deleted it appears to 
stay deleted.

Now dragging a Location to Bookmarks won't let me drop one in a 
sublevel/subfolder of my bookmarks.  :-(


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Do Kingston's EtherRX 10/100BASE-TX/KNE110TX cards work with FreeBSD? I've
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I have FreeBSD 3.0 and I can't get config to accept the pseudo-device log.

Here is a snip from my config file:

    pseudo-device   loop
    pseudo-device   ether
    pseudo-device   pty     16
    pseudo-device   gzip            # Exec gzipped a.out's  
    pseudo-device   log

When I run config...
    # /usr/sbin/config MR
    Don't forget to do a make depend''
    Warning: pseudo-device "log" is unknown
    Kernel build directory is ../../compile/MR

The kernel builds and runs, but some things die when they do some logging
operstions.  (Roxen 1.2 web server) From /var/log/messages:
    Feb  5 17:34:28 mr /kernel: pid 2825 (roxen), uid 0: exited on signal 11

And for kicks, the results of uanme -a
    FreeBSD mr.usu.edu 3.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 3.0-RELEASE #6: Tue Jan 26
    18:55:46 MST 1999     root@mr.usu.edu:/usr/src/sys/compile/MR  i386

Have I nuked something when trimming down the kernel? Any suggestions?

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How to get the best results from FreeBSD questions.
===================================================

Last update 23 February 1998

This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD questions mailing list.  If
you got it in answer to a message you sent, it means that the sender
thinks that at least one of the following things was wrong with your
message:

- You left out a subject line, or the subject line was not appropriate.
- You formatted it in such a way that it was difficult to read.
- You asked more than one unrelated question in one message.
- You sent out a message with an incorrect date, time or time zone.
- You sent out the same message more than once.
- You sent an 'unsubscribe' message to FreeBSD-questions.

If you have done any of these things, there is a good chance that you
will get more than one copy of this message from different people.
Read on, and your next message will be more successful.

This document is also available on the web at
http://www.lemis.com/questions.html.

=====================================================================

Contents:

I:    Introduction
II:   How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions
III:  Should I ask -questions or -hackers?
IV:   How to submit a question to FreeBSD-questions
V:    How to answer a question to FreeBSD-questions

I: Introduction
===============

This is a regular posting aimed to help both those seeking advice from
FreeBSD-questions (the "newcomers"), and also those who answer the
questions (the "hackers").

       Note that the term "hacker" has nothing to do with break- ing
       into other people's computers.  The correct term for the latter
       activity is "cracker", but the popular press hasn't found out
       yet.  The FreeBSD hackers disapprove strongly of cracking
       security, and have nothing to do with it.

In the past, there has been some friction which stems from the
different viewpoints of the two groups.  The newcomers accused the
hackers of being arrogant, stuck-up, and unhelpful, while the hackers
accused the newcomers of being stupid, unable to read plain English,
and expecting everything to be handed to them on a silver platter.  Of
course, there's an element of truth in both these claims, but for the
most part these viewpoints come from a sense of frustration.

In this document, I'd like to do something to relieve this frustration
and help everybody get better results from FreeBSD-questions.  In the
following section, I recommend how to submit a question; after that,
we'll look at how to answer one.

II:  How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions
==============================================

When you subscribed to FreeBSD-questions, you got a welcome message
from Majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG.  In this message, amongst other things, it
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  Welcome to the freebsd-questions mailing list!
  
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  Here's the general information for the list you've
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  This is the mailing list for questions about FreeBSD.  You should not
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Normally, unsubscribing is even simpler than the message suggests: you
don't need to specify your mail ID unless it is different from the one
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If Majordomo replies and tells you (incorrectly) that you're not on
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  2.  You're subscribed to a mailing list which is subscribed to
      FreeBSD-questions. If that's the case, you'll have to figure out
      which one it is and get your name taken off that one. If you're
      not sure which one it might be, check the headers of the
      messages you receive from freebsd-questions: maybe there's a
      clue there.

If you've done all this, and you still can't figure out what's going
on, send a message to Postmaster@FreeBSD.org, and he will sort things
out for you. Don't send a message to FreeBSD-questions: they can't
help you.

III: Should I ask -questions or -hackers?
=========================================

Two mailing lists handle general questions about FreeBSD,
FreeBSD-questions and FreeBSD-hackers. In some cases, it's not really
clear which group you should ask. The following criteria should help
for 99% of all questions, however:

     If the question is of a general nature, ask
     FreeBSD-questions. Examples might be questions about intstalling
     FreeBSD or the use of a particular UNIX utility.

     If you think the question relates to a bug, but you're not sure,
     or you don't know how to look for it, send the message to
     FreeBSD-questions.

     If the question relates to a bug, and you're sure that it's a bug
     (for example, you can pinpoint the place in the code where it
     happens, and you maybe have a fix), then send the message to
     FreeBSD-hackers.

     If the question relates to enhancements to FreeBSD, and you can
     make suggestions about how to implement them, then send the
     message to FreeBSD-hackers.

There are also a number of other specialized mailing lists, for
example FreeBSD-isp, which caters to the interests of ISPs (Internet
Service Providers) who run FreeBSD. If you happen to be an ISP, this
doesn't mean you should automatically send your questions to
FreeBSD-isp. The criteria above still apply, and it's in your interest
to stick to them, since you're more likely to get good results that
way.

IV:  How to submit a question
=============================

When submitting a question to FreeBSD-questions, consider the
following points:

  1.  Remember that nobody gets paid for answering a FreeBSD
      question. They do it of their own free will.  You can influence
      this free will positively by submitting a well-formulated
      question supplying as much relevant information as possible. You
      can influence this free will negatively by submitting an
      incomplete, illegible, or rude question. It's perfectly possible
      to send a message to FreeBSD-questions and not get an answer
      even if you follow these rules. It's much more possible to not
      get an answer if you don't. In the rest of this document, we'll
      look at how to get the most out of your question to
      FreeBSD-questions.

  2.  Not everybody who answers FreeBSD questions reads every message:
      they look at the subject line and decide whether it interests
      them. Clearly, it's in your interest to specify a
      subject. ``FreeBSD problem'' or ``Help'' aren't enough. If you
      provide no subject at all, many people won't bother reading
      it. If your subject isn't specific enough, the people who can
      answer it may not read it.

  3.  Format your message so that it is legible, and PLEASE DON'T
      SHOUT!!!!!. We appreciate that a lot of people don't speak
      English as their first language, and we try to make allowances
      for that, but it's really painful to try to read a message
      written full of typos or without any line breaks. A lot of badly
      formatted messages come from bad mailers or badly configured
      mailers. The following mailers are known to send out badly
      formatted messages without you finding out about them:

      Eudora 
      exmh 
      Microsoft Exchange 
      Microsoft Internet Mail 
      Microsoft Outlook 
      Netscape 

      As you can see, the mailers in the Microsoft world are frequent
      offenders. If at all possible, use a UNIX mailer. If you must
      use a mailer under Microsoft environments, make sure it is set
      up correctly. Try not to use MIME: a lot of people use mailers
      which don't get on very well with MIME.

      For further information on this subject, check
      http://www.lemis.com/email.html.

  4.  Make sure your time and time zone are set correctly. This may
      seem a little silly, since your message still gets there, but
      many of the people you are trying to reach get several hundred
      messages a day. They frequently sort the incoming messages by
      subject and by date, and if your message doesn't come before the
      first answer, they may assume they missed it and not bother to
      look.

  5.  Don't include unrelated questions in the same message. Firstly,
      a long message tends to scare people off, and secondly, it's
      more difficult to get all the people who can answer all the
      questions to read the message.

  6.  Specify as much information as possible. This is a difficult
      area, and we need to expand on what information you need to
      submit, but here's a start:

         If you get error messages, don't say ``I get error
         messages'', say (for example) ``I get the error message 'No
         route to host'''.

         If your system panics, don't say ``My system panicked'', say
         (for example) ``my system panicked with the message 'free
         vnode isn't'''.

         If you have difficulty installing FreeBSD, please tell us
         what hardware you have. In particular, it's important to know
         the IRQs and I/O addresses of the boards installed in your
         machine.

         If you have difficulty getting PPP to run, describe the
         configuration. Which version of PPP do you use? What kind of
         authentication do you have? Do you have a static or dynamic
         IP address? What kind of messages do you get in the log file?

  7.  If you do all this, and you still don't get an answer, there
     could be other reasons. For example, the problem is so
     complicated that nobody knows the answer, or the person who does
     know the answer was offline. If you don't get an answer after,
     say, a week, it might help to re-send the message. If you don't
     get an answer to your second message, though, you're probably not
     going to get one from this forum.  Resending the same message
     again and again will only make you unpopular.

To summarize, let's assume you know the answer to the following
question (yes, it's the same one in each case :-). You choose which of
these two questions you would be more prepared to answer:


Message 1:
Subject: (none)

I just can't get hits damn silly FereBSD system to workd, and Im really good at this tsuff, but I have never seen anythign sho difficult to install, it jst wont work whatever I try so why don't y9ou guys tell me what I doing wrong.

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Message 2:
Subject: Problems installing FreeBSD

I've just got the FreeBSD 2.1.5 CD-ROM from Walnut Creek, and I'm
having a lot of difficulty installing it.  I have a 66 MHz 486 with 16
MB of memory and an Adaptec 1540A SCSI board, a 1.2GB Quantum Fireball
disk and a Toshiba 3501XA CD-ROM drive.  The installation works just
fine, but when I try to reboot the system, I get the message "Missing
Operating System".

----------------------------------------------------------------------


V: How to answer a question
===========================

Before you answer a question to FreeBSD-questions, consider:

1.  A lot of the points on submitting questions also apply to
    answering questions.  Read them.

2.  Has somebody already answered the question?  The easiest way to
    check this is to sort your incoming mail by subject: then
    (hopefully) you'll see the question followed by any answers, all
    together.

    If somebody has already answered it, it doesn't automatically mean
    that you shouldn't send another answer.  But it makes sense to
    read all the other answers first.

3.  Do you have something to contribute beyond what has already been
    said?  In general, "Yeah, me too" answers don't help much,
    although there are exceptions, like when somebody is describing a
    problem he's having, and he doesn't know whether it's his fault or
    whether there's something wrong with the hardware or software.  If
    you do send a "me too" answer, you should also include any further
    relevant information.

4.  Are you sure your answer is correct?  If not, wait a day or so.
    If nobody else comes up with a better answer, you can still reply
    and say, for example, "I don't know if this is correct, but since
    nobody else has replied, why don't you try replacing your ATAPI
    CD-ROM with a frog?".

5.  Don't do a group reply; lots of people send messages with hundreds
    of CCs.  Unless there's a good reason to do otherwise, just reply
    to the person and copy FreeBSD-questions.

6.  Trim the original message to the minimum, and use some technique
    to identify which text came from the original message, and which
    text you add.  I personally find that prepending "> " to the
    original message works best.  Leaving white space after the ">"
    and leave empty lines between your text and the original text both
    make the result more readable.

    Most mailers change the subject line on a reply by prepending a
    text such as "Re: ".  If your mailer doesn't do it automatically,
    you should do it manually.

    If the submitter didn't abide by format conventions (lines too
    long, inappropriate subject line), *please* fix it.  In the case
    of an incorrect subject line (such as "HELP!!??"), change the
    subject line to (say) "Re: Difficulties with sync PPP (was:
    HELP!!??)".  That way other people trying to follow the thread
    will have less difficulty following it.

    In such cases, it's appropriate to say what you did and why you
    did it, but try not to be rude.  If you find you can't answer
    without being rude, don't answer.

    If you just want to reply to a message because of its bad format,
    just reply to the submitter, not to the list.  You can just send
    him this message in reply, if you like.

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          Errata and addenda for the Complete FreeBSD, second edition




                        Last revision: 4 February 1999

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or any other online documentation.   The  result  is  that  most  leading  edge
computer  books are out of date almost before they are printed.  Unfortunately,
``The Complete FreeBSD'', published by Walnut  Creek,  is  no  exception.   The
second  edition  has only just been published, but already a number of bugs and
changes have surfaced.

The following is a list of modifications which go beyond  simple  typos.   They
relate  to the second edition, formatted on 16 December 1997.  If you have this
book, please check this list.  If you have the first edition of 19  July  1996,
please  check  ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-1.  This  same file is also
available via the web link http://www.lemis.com/.

This list is available in four forms:

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  underlining.  It's not suitable for direct viewing.

o An ASCII-only version at  ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-2.ascii.  This
  version  is  posted  every  week to the FreeBSD-questions mailing list.  Only
  take this version if you have real problems with PostScript: I can't be  sure
  that the lack of different fonts won't confuse the meaning.

o A web version at http://www.lemis.com/errata-2.html.

All  these  modifications  have  been applied to the ongoing source text of the

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book, so if you buy a later edition, they will be in it as well.  If you find a
bug or a suspected bug in the book, please contact me at <grog@FreeBSD.org.>

General changes
_______________


o In  a  number  of  places, I suggest the use of the following command to find
  process information:

  $ ps aux | grep foo

  Unfortunately, ps is sensitive to the column width of the  terminal  emulator
  upon  which  it  is working.  This command usually works fine on a relatively
  wide xterm, but if you're running on an 80-column terminal, it  may  truncate
  exactly  the  information  you're  looking for, so you end up with no output.
  You can fix that with the w option:

  $ ps waux | grep foo

  Thanks to Sue Blake <sue@welearn.com.au> for this information


Location of the sample files
____________________________

On the 2.2.5 CD-ROM only, the location of the sample files does not  match  the
specifications  in the book (/book on the first CD-ROM).  The 2.2.5 CD-ROM came
out before the book, and it contains the files on the third (repository) CD-ROM
as  a  single  gzipped  tar file /xperimnt/cfbsd/cfbsd.tar.gz.  It contains the
following files:

drwxr-xr-x jkh/jkh           0 Oct 17 13:01 1997 cfbsd/
drwxr-xr-x jkh/jkh           0 Oct 17 13:01 1997 cfbsd/mutt/
-rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh         352 Oct 15 15:21 1997 cfbsd/mutt/.mail_aliases
-rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh        9394 Oct 15 15:22 1997 cfbsd/mutt/.muttrc
drwxr-xr-x jkh/jkh           0 Oct 17 14:02 1997 cfbsd/scripts/
-rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh       18281 Oct 16 16:52 1997 cfbsd/scripts/.fvwm2rc
-rwxr-xr-x jkh/jkh        1392 Oct 17 12:54 1997 cfbsd/scripts/install-desktop
-rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh         296 Oct 17 12:35 1997 cfbsd/scripts/.xinitrc
-rwxr-xr-x jkh/jkh         622 Oct 17 13:51 1997 cfbsd/scripts/install-rcfiles
-rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh        1133 Oct 17 13:00 1997 cfbsd/scripts/Uutry
-rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh        1028 Oct 17 14:02 1997 cfbsd/scripts/README
drwxr-xr-x jkh/jkh           0 Oct 18 19:32 1997 cfbsd/docs/

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-rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh      199111 Oct 16 14:29 1997 cfbsd/docs/packages.txt
-rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh      189333 Oct 16 14:28 1997 cfbsd/docs/packages-by-category.txt
-rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh      188108 Oct 16 14:29 1997 cfbsd/docs/packages.ps
-rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh      226439 Oct 16 14:27 1997 cfbsd/docs/packages-by-category.ps
-rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh         788 Oct 16 15:01 1997 cfbsd/README
-rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh         248 Oct 17 11:52 1997 cfbsd/errata

To extract one of these files, say cfbsd/docs/packages.txt,  and  assuming  you
have the CD-ROM mounted as /cdrom, enter:

# cd /usr/share/doc
# tar xvzf /cdrom/xperimnt/cfbsd/cfbsd.tar.gz cfbsd/docs/packages.txt

See page 209 for more information on using tar.

These files are an early version of what is described in the book.  I'll put up
some updated versions on ftp://ftp.lemis.com/ in the near future.

Thanks to Frank McCormick <gfm@readybox.com> for drawing this to my  attention.

Chapter 8: Setting up X11
_________________________

For FreeBSD 2.2.7, this chapter has changed sufficiently to make it impractical
to  distribute  errata.   You  can  download  the   PostScript   version   from
ftp://www.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/xsetup.ps,    or    the    ASCII   version   from
ftp://www.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/xsetup.txt.  No HTML version is available.

Page xxxiv
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Before the discussion of the shell prompts in the middle of the page, add:

In this book, I recommend the use of the Bourne shell or one of its descendents
(sh,  bash,  pdksh, ksh or zsh).  With the exception of sh, they are all in the
Ports Collection.  I personally use the bash shell.

This is a personal preference, and a recommendation, but it's not the  standard
shell.   The  standard  BSD  shell  is  the  C shell (csh), which has a fuller-
featured descendent tcsh.  In particular, the standard  installation  sets  the
root  user  up with a csh.  See page 152 (in this errata) for details of how to
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Page 11: Reading the handbook
_____________________________

The CD-ROM now includes Netscape.  Replace the last paragraph on the  page  and
the example on the following page with:

If  you're running X, you can use a browser like netscape to read the handbook.
If you don't have X running yet, use lynx.  Both of these programs are included
on the CD-ROM.  To install them, enter:

# pkg_add /cdrom/packages/All/netscape-communicator-4.5.tgz
or
# pkg_add /cdrom/packages/All/lynx-2.8.1.1.tgz

The  numbers  after  the  name (4.5 and 2.8.1.1) may change after this book has
been printed.  Use ls to list the names if  you  can't  find  these  particular
versions.

Note  that  lynx  is  not a complete substitute for netscape: since it is text-
only, it is  not  capable  of  displaying  the  large  majority  of  web  pages
correctly.  It will suffice for reading most of the handbook, however.

Thanks to Stuart Henderson <stuart@internationalschool.co.uk> and <gkaplan@cas-
tle.net> for drawing this to my attention.

Page 12: Printing the handbook
______________________________

The instructions for formatting the handbook are obsolete.  Replace the section
starting Alternatively, you can print out the handbook with the following text:

Alternatively,  you  can  print  out  the  handbook.   You  need  to  have  the
documentation  sources  (/usr/doc) installed on your system.  You can find them
on the second CD-ROM in the directory of the same name.  To install them, first
mount your CD-ROM (see page 175).  Then enter:

$ cd /cdrom/usr/doc/handbook
$ mkdir -p /usr/doc/handbook            you may need to be root for this operation
$ cp -pr * /usr/doc/handbook

You have a choice of formats for the output:

o ascii  will  give  you  plain  7-bit  ASCII output, suitable for reading on a
  character-mode terminal.

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o html will give you HTML output, suitable for browsing with a web browser.

o latex will give you LATEX format, suitable for further  processing  with  TEX
  and LATEX.

o ps will give you PostScript output, probably the best choice for printing.

o roff  will give you output in troff source.  You can process this output with
  nroff or troff, but it's currently not very  polished.   LATEX  output  is  a
  better choice if you want to process it further.

Once  you  have  decided  your  format,  use  make to create the document.  For
example, if you decide on PostScript format, you would enter:

$ make FORMATS=ps

This creates a file handbook.ps which  you  can  then  print  to  a  PostScript
printer or with the aid of ghostscript (see page 222).

Thanks to Bob Beer <r-beer@onu.edu> for drawing this to my attention.

Page 45:  Preparing floppies for installation
_____________________________________________

Replace  the paragraph below the list of file names (in the middle of the page)
with:

The floppy set should contain the file bin.inf and the ones whose  names  start
with  bin.  followed  by  two  letters.  These other files are all 240640 bytes
long, except for the final one which is usually shorter.  Use the  MS-DOS  COPY
program  to copy as many files as will fit onto each disk (5 or 6) until you've
got all the distributions you want  packed  up  in  this  fashion.   Copy  each
distribution  into  subdirectory  corresponding  to the base name--for example,
copy the bin distribution to the files A:\BIN\BIN.INF, A:\BIN\BIN.AA and so on.

Page 80 and 81
______________

In a couple of examples, the FreeBSD partition is shown as type 164.  It should
be 165.  Thanks to an unknown contributer for this correction  (sorry,  I  lost
your name).




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Page 88: setting up for dumping
_______________________________

The  example mentions a variable savecore in /etc/rc.conf.  This variable is no
longer used--it's enough to set the variable dumpdev.

Page 92
_______

At the end of the section How to install a package add the text:

Alternatively, you  can  install  packages  from  the  /stand/sysinstall  Final
Configuration  Menu.  We saw this menu on page in figure 4-14 on page 71.  When
you start sysinstall from the command line, you get to this menu  by  selecting
Index, and then selecting Configure.


Page 93
_______

Before the heading Install ports from the first CD-ROM add:


Install ports when installing the system
________________________________________

The  file  ports/ports.tgz  on the first CD-ROM is a tar archive containing all
the ports.  You can install it with the base system if you  select  the  Custom
distribution  and  include the ports collection.  If you didn't install them at
the time, use the following method to install them all  (about  40  MB).   Make
sure your CD-ROM is mounted (in this example on /cdrom), and enter:

Page 96
_______

Replace the example at the top of the page with:

Instead, do:

# cd /cd4/ports/distfiles
# mkdir -p /usr/ports/distfiles              make sure you have a distfiles directory
# for i in *; do
>   ln -s /cd4/ports/distfiles/$i /usr/ports/distfiles/$i
> done

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If you're using csh or tcsh, enter:

# cd /cd4/ports/distfiles
# mkdir -p /usr/ports/distfiles              make sure you have a distfiles directory
# foreach i (*)
?   ln -s /cd4/ports/distfiles/$i /usr/ports/distfiles/$i
? end

Thanks  to  Christopher  Raven  <gurab@lineone.net> and Francois Jacques <fran-
cois.jacques@callisto.si.usherb.ca> for drawing this to my attention.

Page 128
________

Replace the complete text below the example with the following:

These values are defaults, and many  are  either  incorrect  for  FreeBSD  (for
example the device name /dev/com1) or do not apply at all (for example Xqueue).
If you are configuring manually, select one Protocol and one Device entry  from
the  following  selection.   If  you must use a two-button mouse, uncomment the
keyword Emulate3Buttons--in this mode, pressing both mouse  buttons  simultane-
ously  within Emulate3Timeout milliseconds causes the server to report a middle
button press.

Section "Pointer"

    Protocol   "Microsoft"         for Microsoft protocol mice
    Protocol    "MouseMan"         for Logitech mice
    Protocol    "PS/2"             for a PS/2 mouse
    Protocol    "Busmouse"         for a bus mouse

    Device     "/dev/ttyd0"        for a mouse on the first serial port
    Device     "/dev/ttyd1"        for a mouse on the second serial port
    Device     "/dev/ttyd2"        for a mouse on the third serial port
    Device     "/dev/ttyd3"        for a mouse on the fourth serial port
    Device     "/dev/psm0"         for a PS/2 mouse
    Device     "/dev/mse0"         for a bus mouse

    Emulate3Buttons           only for a two-button mouse

EndSection

You'll notice that the protocol name does not always match  the  manufacturer's
name.   In  particular,  the  Logitech  protocol only applies to older Logitech

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mice.  The newer ones use either the MouseMan or Microsoft  protocols.   Nearly
all modern serial mice run one of these two protocols, and most run both.

If  you are using a bus mouse or a PS/2 mouse, make sure that the device driver
is included in the kernel.  The GENERIC kernel contains drivers for both  mice,
but the PS/2 driver is disabled.  Use UserConfig (see page 50) to enable it.

Page 140
________

Just before the paragraph The super user add the following paragraph:

If  you  do  manage to lose the root password, all may not be lost.  Reboot the
machine to single user mode (see page 157), and enter:

# mount -u /             mount root file system read/write
# mount /usr             mount /usr file system (if separate)
# passwd root            change the password for root
Enter new password:
Enter password again:
# ^D                enter ctrl-D to continue with startup

If you have a separate /usr file system (the normal case), you need to mount it
as well, since the passwd program is in the directory /usr/bin.  Note also that
you should explicitly state the name root: in  single  user  mode,  the  system
doesn't have the concept of user IDs.

Thanks to Sue Blake <sue@welearn.com.au> for correcting this addendum.

Page 148
________

Replace the text at the top of the page with:

Modern  shells  supply  command  line editing which resembles the editors vi or
Emacs.  In bash, sh, ksh, and zsh you can make the choice by entering

Page 152
________

After figure 10-8, add the following text:

It  would  be  tedious  for  every  user  to  put  settings  in  their  private
initialization  files, so the shells also read a system-wide default file.  For

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the Bourne shell family, it is /etc/profile, while the C shell family has three
files:  /etc/csh.login  to  be executed on login, /etc/csh.cshrc to be executed
when a new shell is started  after  you  log  in,  and  /etc/csh.logout  to  be
executed  when  you  stop  a  shell.   The  start files are executed before the
corresponding individual files.

In  addition,  login  classes  (page  141)  offer  another  method  of  setting
environment variables at a global level.

Changing your shell
___________________

The  FreeBSD  installation  gives root a C shell, csh.  This is the traditional
Berkeley shell, but it has a number of disadvantages: command line  editing  is
very primitive, and the script language is significantly different from that of
the Bourne shell, which is the de facto standard for shell scripts: if you stay
with  the  C  shell,  you  may  still need to understand the Bourne shell.  The
latest version of the Bourne shell sh also includes some command line  editing.
See page 148 for details of how to enable it.

You  can  get  better  command line editing with tcsh, in the Ports Collection.
You can get both better command line editing and Bourne shell syntax with bash,
also in the Ports Collection.

If  you  have root access, you can use vipw to change your shell, but there's a
more general way: use chsh (Change Shell).  Simply run the program.  It  starts
your  favourite editor (as defined by the EDITOR environment variable).  Here's
an example before:

#Changing user database information for velte.
Shell: /bin/csh
Full Name: Jack Velte
Location:
Office Phone:
Home Phone:

You can change anything after the colons.  For example, you might  change  this
to:

#Changing user database information for velte.
Shell: /usr/local/bin/bash
Full Name: Jack Velte
Location: On the road
Office Phone: +1-408-555-1999

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Home Phone:

chsh  checks and updates the password files when you save the modifications and
exit the editor.  The next time you log in, you get the new shell.  chsh  tries
to  ensure you don't make any mistakes--for example, it won't let you enter the
name of a shell which isn't mentioned in the file /etc/shells--but it's a  very
good  idea  to  check  the shell before logging out.  You can try this with su,
which you normally use to become super user:

bumble# su velte
Password:
su-2.00$                 note the new prompt

There are a couple of problems in using tcsh or bash as a root shell:

o The shell for root must be on the root file system,  otherwise  it  will  not
  work  in single user mode.  Unfortunately, most ports of shells put the shell
  in the directory /usr/local/bin, which is  almost  never  on  the  root  file
  system.

o Most  shells  are  dynamically linked: they rely on library routines in files
  such as /usr/lib/libc.a.  These files are not available in single user  mode,
  so  the shells won't work.  You can solve this problem by creating statically
  linked versions of the shell, but this requires programming experience beyond
  the scope of this book.

If you can get hold of a statically linked version, perform the following steps
to install it:

o Copy the shell to /bin, for example:

  # cp /usr/local/bin/bash /bin

o Add the name of the shell to /etc/shells,  in this example the line  in  bold
  print:

  # List of acceptable shells for chpass(1).
  # Ftpd will not allow users to connect who are not using
  # one of these shells.
  /bin/sh
  /bin/csh
  /bin/bash



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You can then change the shell for root as described above.

Thanks  to  Lars Koller  <Lars.Koeller@Uni-Bielefeld.DE> for drawing this to my
attention.

Page 160
________

Replace the text at the fourth bullet with the augmented text:

The second-level boot locates the kernel, by default the file  /kernel  on  the
root file system, and loads it into memory.  It prints the Boot: prompt at this
point so that you can influence this choice--see the man page on page  579  for
more details of what you can enter at this prompt.

Page 175
________

In  the  section  Mounting file systems, replace the text down to and including
the example with:

Microsoft platforms identify partitions by letters which are assigned  at  boot
time.  There is no obvious relation between the partitions, and you have little
control over the way the system assigns them.  By contrast, all UNIX partitions
have  a  specific  relation  to the root file system, which is called simply /.
This flexibility has one problem: you have the choice of where in  the  overall
file  system  structure  you put your individual file systems.  You specify the
location with the mount command.  For example, you would typically mount a  CD-
ROM  in  the  directory /cdrom, but if you have three CD-ROM drives attached to
your SCSI controller, you might prefer to mount them in the  directories  /cd0,
/cd1,  and  /cd2.  [1] In order to mount a file system, you need to specify the
device to be mounted, where it is to be mounted, and the type  of  file  system
(unless it is ufs).  The mount point, (the directory where it is to be mounted)
must already exist.  To mount your second CD-ROM on /cd1, you would enter:

# mkdir /cd1                  only if it doesn't exist
# mount -t cd9660 -o ro /dev/cd1a /cd1


Thanks to Christiane Yeardly <chris@aeon-systems.com> for drawing  this  to  my
attention.

____________________
[1]  This numbering is in keeping with the UNIX tradition of numbering starting
     from 0.  There's nothing to stop you choosing some other name, of  course.
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Page 176
________

Add the following paragraph

Unmounting file systems

When you mount a file system, the system assumes it is going to stay there, and
in the interests of efficiency it delays writing data back to the file  system.
This  is the same effect we discussed on page 158.  As a result, if you want to
stop using a file system, you need to tell the system about it.   You  do  this
with  the umount command.  Note the spelling--there's no n in the command name.

You need to do this even with read-only  media  such  as  CD-ROMs:  the  system
assumes  it  can  access the data from a mounted file system, and it gets quite
unhappy if it can't.  Where possible, it locks  removable  media  so  that  you
can't remove them from the device until you unmount them.

Using  umount  is  straightforward:  just  tell  it what to unmount, either the
device name or the directory name.  For  example,  to  unmount  the  CD-ROM  we
mounted in the example above, you could enter one of these commands:

# umount /dev/cd1a
# umount /cd1

Before  unmounting  a  file  system, umount checks that nobody is using it.  If
somebody is using it, it will refuse to unmount it with a message like  umount:
/cd1:  Device  busy.   This  message often occurs because you have changed your
directory to a directory on the file system you want to  remove.   For  example
(which also shows the usefulness of having directory names in the prompt):

=== root@freebie (/dev/ttyp2) /cd1 16 -> umount /cd1
umount: /cd1: Device busy
=== root@freebie (/dev/ttyp2) /cd1 17 -> cd
=== root@freebie (/dev/ttyp2) ~ 18 -> umount /cd1
=== root@freebie (/dev/ttyp2) ~ 19 ->

Thanks to Ken Deboy <glockr@locked_and_loaded.reno.nv.us> for pointing out this
omission.

Page 180
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The example in the middle of the page should read:

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For example, to generate a second set of 32 pseudo-terminals, enter:

# cd /dev
# ./MAKEDEV pty1

You can generate up to 256 pseudo-terminals.   They  are  named  ttyp0  through
ttypv,  ttyq0  through  ttyqv,  ttyr0 through ttyrv, ttys0 through ttysv, ttyP0
through ttyPv, ttyQ0 through ttyQv,  ttyR0  through  ttyRv  and  ttyS0  through
ttySv.   To  create  each  set  of 32 terminals, use the number of the set: the
first set is pty0, and the eighth set is pty7.  Note that some processes,  such
as xterm, only look at ttyp0 through ttysv.

Thanks to Karl Wagner <karl@softronex.dynip.com> for pointing out this error.

Page 197, first line
____________________

The text of the first full sentence reads:

The first name, up the the  symbol, is the label.

In fact, it should read:

The first name, up to the | symbol, is the label.


Page 208, middle of page
________________________

The  example  shows  the  file  name /dev/rst0 when using the Bourne shell, and
/dev/nrst0  when  using  C  shell  and  friends.   This  is  inconsistent;  use
/dev/nrst0 with any shell if you want a non-rewinding tape, or /dev/rst0 if you
want a rewinding tape.

Thanks to Norman C Rice <nrice@emu.sourcee.com> for pointing out this one.

Page 219
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Before the section Testing the spooler add the following section:





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Starting the spooler
____________________

As we saw above, the line  printer  daemon  lpd  is  responsible  for  printing
spooled  jobs.   By default it isn't started at boot time.  If you're root, you
can start it by name:

# lpd

Normally, however, you will want it to be started automatically when the system
starts up.  You do this by setting the variable lpd_enable in /etc/rc.conf:

lpd_enable="YES"              # Run the line printer daemon

See page 1609 for more details of /etc/rc.conf.

Another line in rc.conf refers to the line printer daemon:

lpd_flags=""        # Flags to lpd (if enabled).

You  don't  normally  need  to  change this line.  See the man page for lpd for
details of the flags.

Thanks to Tommy  G.  James  <tgj@worldnet.att.net>  for  bringing  this  to  my
attention.

Page 231
________

Replace the first line of the example with:

xhost presto bumble gw

The original version allowed anybody on the Internet to access your system.

Thanks  to  Jerry  Dunham  <dunham@dunham.org>  for  drawing  this  one  to  my
attention.

Page 237
________

Replace the text at the top of the page with:

To do this, you could type in, on presto,

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$ rsh freebie xterm -ls -display presto:0 &

The flag -ls tells xterm that this is a login shell, which causes it to read in
the  startup files.  It might work without this flag, but there's a good chance
that some environment variables, such as PATH, may not be set.

In practice, the xterms menus in the window manager will perform this  function
for you when you select the appropriate menu item.

Thanks  to Manuel Enrique Garcia <megarcia@lix.intercom.es> for drawing this to
my attention.

In the section Installing the sample desktop, replace the first paragraph with:

You'll  find  all  the  files  described  in  this  chapter on the first CD-ROM
(Installation CD-ROM) in the directory /book.  Remember that you must mount the
CD-ROM  before you can access the files--see page 175 for further details.  The
individual scripts are in the directory /book/scripts, but you'll probably find
it easier to install them with the script install-desktop:

Thanks to Chris Kaiser <kaiserc@fltg.net> for drawing this to my attention.

Page 242
________

The  instructions  for extracting the source files from CD-ROM in the middle of
page 242 are incorrect.  You'll find the kernel sources on the first CD-ROM  in
the directory /src.  Replace the example with:

# mkdir -p /usr/src/sys
# ln -s /usr/src/sys /sys
# cd /
# cat /cdrom/src/ssys.[a-d]* | tar xzvf -

Thanks    to    Raymond    Noel   <raynoel@videotron.ca>,   Suttipan   Limanond
<b0l6604@unix.tamu.edu> and Satwant <wizkid11@xnet.com> for finding this one in
several small slices.

Page 257
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Replace the paragraph Berkeley Packet Filter with:



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pseudo-device bpfilter
______________________

The  Berkeley  Packet  Filter  (bpf)  allows  you to capture packets crossing a
network interface to disk or to examine them with the  tcpdump  program.   Note
that  this  capability represents a significant compromise of network security.
The number after bpfilter is the number of concurrent processes  that  can  use
the facility.  Not all network interfaces support bpf.

In  order  to  use  the Berkeley Packet Filter, you must also create the device
nodes /dev/bpf0 to /dev/bpf3 (if you're using the default number 4).   Current-
ly, MAKEDEV doesn't help much--you need to create each device separately:

# cd /dev
# ./MAKEDEV bpf0
# ./MAKEDEV bpf1
# ./MAKEDEV bpf2
# ./MAKEDEV bpf3

Thanks  to  Christopher  Raven  <c.raven@ukonline.co.uk> for drawing this to my
attention.

Page 264
________

In the list of disk driver flags, add:

o Bit 12 (0x1000) enables LBA (logical block addressing mode).  If this bit  is
  not set, the driver accesses the disk in CHS (cylinder/head/sector) mode.

o In  CHS  mode, if bits 11 to 8 are not equal to 0, they specify the number of
  heads to assume (between 1 and 15).  The driver recalculates  the  number  of
  cylinders to make up the total size of the disk.


Page 283, ``Creating the source tree''
______________________________________

Add a third point to what you need to know:

3. Possibly,  the  date  of the last update that you want to be included in the
  checkout.  If you specify this date, cvs ignores  any  more  recent  updates.
  This option is often useful when somebody discovers a recently introduced bug
  in -CURRENT: you check out the modules  as  they  were  before  the  bug  was

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  introduced.   You  specify  the  date  with the -D option, for example -D "10
  December 1997".


Page 285, after the second example.
___________________________________

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If you need to check out an older version, for example if  there  are  problems
with the most recent version of -CURRENT, you could enter:

# cvs co  -D "10 December 1997" src/sys

This command checks out the kernel sources as of 10 December 1997.

Page 294
________

Add the following section:

Problems executing Linux binaries
_________________________________

One  of  the problems with the ELF format used by more recent Linux binaries is
that they usually contain no information to identify them  as  Linux  binaries.
They  might  equally  well be BSD/OS or UnixWare binaries.  That's not really a
problem at this point, since the only ELF format that FreeBSD 2.2.7 understands
is  Linux,  but FreeBSD-CURRENT recognizes a native FreeBSD ELF format as well,
and of course that's the default.  If you want to run a  Linux  ELF  binary  on
such  a  system, you must brand the executable using the program brandelf.  For
example, to brand the StarOffice program swriter3, you would enter:

# brandelf -t linux /usr/local/StarOffice-3.1/linux-x86/bin/swriter3

Thanks to Dan Busarow <dan@dpcsys.com> for bringing this to my attention.

Page 364, middle of page
________________________

Change the text from:

The names MYADDR and HISADDR are keywords which represent the addresses at each
end  of  the  link.  They must be written as shown, though they may be in lower

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case.

to

The names MYADDR and HISADDR are keywords which represent the addresses at each
end  of  the link.  They must be written as shown, though newer versions of ppp
allow you to write them in lower case.

Thanks to Mark S. Reichman <mark@fang.cs.sunyit.edu> for this correction.

Page 368
________

Replace the paragraph after the second example with:

In  FreeBSD  version  3.0  and  later,  specify  the  options  PPP_BSDCOMP  and
PPP_DEFLATE  to  enable  two kinds of compression.  You'll also need to specify
the corresponding option in Kernel PPP's configuration file.  These options are
not available in FreeBSD version 2.

Thanks to Brian Somers <brian@Awfulhak.org> for this information.

Page 397
________

In the section ``Nicknames'', the example should read:

www       IN   CNAME          freebie
ftp       IN   CNAME          presto

In other words, there should be a space between CNAME and the system name.

Page 422
________

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tcpdump  is  a program which monitors a network interface and displays selected
information which passes through it.  It uses the Berkeley Packet Filter (bpf),
an optional component of the kernel.  It is not included in the GENERIC kernel:
see page 257 for information on how to configure it.

If you don't configure the Berkeley Packet Filter, you will get a message like


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tcpdump: /dev/bpf0:  device not configured

If you forget to create the devices for bpf, you will get a message like:

tcpdump: /dev/bpf0: No such file or directory

Since tcpdump poses a potential security problem, you must be root in order  to
run it.  The simplest way to run it is without any parameters.  This will cause
tcpdump to monitor  and  display  all  traffic  on  the  first  active  network
interface, normally Ethernet:

Thanks  to  Christopher  Raven  <c.raven@ukonline.co.uk> for drawing this to my
attention.

Page 423
________

The description at the top of the page incorrectly uses  the  term  IP  address
instead  of  Ethernet  address.   In  addition,  a  page  number  reference  is
incorrect.  Replace the paragraph with:

o Line 1 shows an ARP request:  system  presto  is  looking  for  the  Ethernet
  address  of  wait.   It  would  appear that wait is currently not responding,
  since there is no reply.

o Line 2 is not an IP message at all.  tcpdump shows the Ethernet addresses and
  the  beginning of the packet.  We don't consider this kind of request in this
  book.

o Line 3 is a broadcast ntp message.  We looked at ntp on page 160.

o Line 4 is another attempt by presto to find the IP address of wait.

o Line 5  is  a  broadcast  message  from  bumble  on  the  rwho  port,  giving
  information about its current load averages and how long it has been up.  See
  the man page for rwho on page 1167 for more information.

o Line 6 is from a TCP connection between port 6000 on freebie and port 1089 on
  presto.   It  is  sending  384  bytes (with the sequence numbers 536925467 to
  536925851; see page 305), and is acknowledging that the last byte it received
  from presto had the sequence number 325114346.  The window size is 17280.

o Line 7 is another ARP request.  presto is looking for the Ethernet address of
  freebie.  How can that  happen?   We've  just  seen  that  they  have  a  TCP

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  connection.   In  fact, ARP information expires after 20 minutes.  It's quite
  possible that all connections between presto and freebie  have  been  dormant
  for this period, so presto needs to find freebie's IP address again.

o Line 8 is the ARP reply from freebie to presto giving its Ethernet address.

o Line  9 shows a reply from presto on the connection to freebie that we saw on
  line 6.  It acknowledges the  data  up  to  sequence  number  536925851,  but
  doesn't send any itself.

o Line  10  shows  another  448  bytes  of  data  from  freebie  to presto, and
  acknowledging the same sequence number from presto as in line 6.

Thanks to Sergei S. Laskavy <laskavy@hedgehog.cs.msu.su> for drawing this to my
attention.

Page 450: anonymous ftp
_______________________

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Create  a  user ftp, with the anonymous ftp directory as the home directory and
the shell /dev/null.  Using /dev/null as the shell makes it impossible  to  log
in  as user ftp, but does not interfere with the use of anonymous ftp.  ftp can
be a member of group bin, or you can create a new group ftp by adding the group
to /etc/group.  See page 138 for more details of adding users, and the man page
on page 805 for adding groups.

Thanks to Mark S. Reichman <mark@borg.com> for drawing this to my attention.

Page 466, before the ps example
_______________________________

Add another bullet:

o Finally, you may find it convenient to let some other system handle all  your
  mail  delivery  for  you: you just send anything you can't deliver locally to
  this other host, which sendmail calls a smart  host.   This  is  particularly
  convenient if you send your mail with UUCP.

  To  tell  sendmail  to use a smart host (in our case, mail.example.net), find
  the following line in sendmail.cf:



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  # "Smart" relay host (may be null)
  DS

  Change it to:

  # "Smart" relay host (may be null)
  DSmail.example.net


Page 478, ``Running Apache''
____________________________

The text describes the location of the server  as  /usr/local/www/server/httpd.
This  appears to depend on where you get the port from.  Some people report the
file being at the more likely location /usr/local/sbin/httpd (though  note  the
directory  sbin,  not  bin).   Check  both  locations  if you run into trouble.
Thanks to Sue Blake <sue@welearn.com.au> for this information.

Page 492
________

Replace references to nmdb with nmbd.

Page 493
________

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socket options  is  hardly  mentioned  in  the  documentation,  but  it's  very
important:  many  Microsoft  implementations  of  TCP/IP  are  inefficient  and
establish a new TCP more often  than  necessary.   Select  the  socket  options
TCP_NODELAY  and  IPTOS_LOWDELAY,  which can speed up the response time of such
applications by over 95%.

Page 1620
_________

The description of /etc/hosts.lpd erroneously refers to the file /etc/ftpusers.
This should be /etc/hosts.lpd, of course.

Thanks  to  Anders  Andersson  <anders@sanyusan.se>  for  drawing  this  to  my
attention.



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Patrick Anthofer writes:
> I have an Intel Pentium 133 / 32MB Ram and 2 HD with 2 partitions each.
> One Harddrive has got the NTFS and the other one has got FAT.
> I was wondering what would happen if I installed FREE BSD on one of the
> FAT Partitions. Would a MULTI OS BOOT Manager be created or something
> like that?

You'd probably want to REPLACE one or two of the FAT partitions. Just
tell FreeBSD it can have it.  :-)

Mark Ovens pointed out there are instructions in the FreeBSD FAQ on how 
to use NT as your boot loader, here is the URL:

http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/FAQ122.html#122

Personally, I left an empty partition at the start of my 9G HD, empty
for a year or two, until I broke down and put NT 4.0 there. *I* boot
into NT from BootEasy.


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On Friday,  5 February 1999 at 14:01:38 +0100, Patrick Anthofer wrote:
> Hello.
>
> I have looked at your site quite thouroughly, but I didn't find
> information on running FREE BSD on a Windows NT Server machine.
> I might have overseen information on that; if so I'm sorry for
> bothering you.
>
> I have an Intel Pentium 133 / 32MB Ram and 2 HD with 2 partitions each.
> One Harddrive has got the NTFS and the other one has got FAT.
> I was wondering what would happen if I installed FREE BSD on one of the
> FAT Partitions. Would a MULTI OS BOOT Manager be created or something
> like that?

You can't install FreeBSD on a FAT partition.  It needs a FreeBSD
partition.  You can overwrite the FAT, of course, but then it's not
FAT any more.

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Dear Sirs:

     Starting to look at your web site, I saw this snippet.

FreeBSD is an advanced BSD UNIX operating system for "PC-compatible"
computers, developed and maintained by a large team of individuals.

      What does BSD stand for?

All the best,

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Greg Black wrote:
> 
> > Oh well, I'll struggle through some how.  *grin*
> >
> > > >From my experience, many of the replies will be along the lines of
> > > "....get yourself a proper mailer...." ;-)
> >
> > Mercifully, I haven't had any of them, yet.  Phew.  ;o}
> 
> Let me be the first then :-)
> 
> Seriously, netscape is barely useful in its real role as a web
> browser and is completely unsuited to taking on other tasks on
> top of that.  Why "struggle" with it when Unix systems have a
> plethora of *good* mail user agents, all of which allow you to
> use the editor of your choice to do the serious part of the job
> while providing a range of configurable options to control the
> way the mail is handled.
> 

I agree with you Greg, but can you offer a solution to this?

Out of necessity my machine triple boots W95/NT4/FreeBSD 2.2.8. I'm
looking for a system whereby I can have common mail boxes/folders
(stored on the FAT partition) that can be read/updated by a mailer in
all 3 OS's. Someone pointed me to a Windows version of pine, I tried it,
and was very impressed but it has the disadvantage that it can't handle
POP3 mail very well. It can only deal with it online. What I need is to
be able to d/l my mail to a local Inbox (in any of the 3 OS's) and read
it off-line.

Netscape is the closest I've found to what I'm looking for, both Windows
and Unix versions can read thesame mail files but the Unix version
doesn't work too well with the Windows mail files (e.g. I can delete a
message in FreeBSD, but in Windows it's still there :-( ).

Any suggestions?

> Sure, you have to learn how to use these things, but that's true
> of anything that's worth using.  And you already know how to use
> your editor, so that frees you from learning that part.
> 
> --
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> Hello, 
>       I am using Free BSD  2.1.5-RELEASE and finding that the call 
> getrlimit() is behaving weirdly. it returns a value of 0, which means 
> success. But the value returned in the second parameter 
> rlp->rlim_cur, is -1 !! 
> 
>       The parameters passed are : 
>         first parameter is RLIMIT_NOFILE, 
>         second parameter is a pointer to the struct rlimit. 
> 
>       Is there any file which has to be modified to get the correct value? 
> Or any information regarding this call will be useful. 

That means the limit is infinite.

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Ok .. I wrote a mail to the x11amp people and never got anything back. So 
I gess I will try here. 

When I run x11amp and try to play mp3's it gives me some OSS error. the 
docs says that it will runn with standart freebsd drivers and my sound does
work.. I have /dev/audio and all useing the snd0 driver ... other mp3 players
work just fine...

here is the error I get: 

       Incompatible OSS Driversoss sysinfo=537358976: 0
       Warning: Unable to set fragment size!!
       Unable to get fragment size

It seems like it is trying to use OSS.. (I dont have it and am not going 
to buy it)  I spesifyed x11amp -device /dev/audio at the prompt and it 
then sais:

    Unable to reset audio device
    Unable to open the audio device

but if I close it and runn some other mp3 player it works fine ...

HELP


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No... What you want is /usr/ports/x11-wm/windomaker

Learn how to keep your system updated and use the ports subsystem.

You'll be much happier. :-)

Cheers,

Jerry Hicks
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Subject: WindowMaker
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 22:03:49 -0200

> To install WindowMaker 0.51.0 i need LibPropList.
> I got PropList 0.8.3 version and i installed it as told in INSTALL file
> guide:
> ./configure && make && make isntall
> 
> No problem
> 
> the problem comes now!!!!!!!
> 
> I am trying to get The Latest WindowMaker version working on my system,
> but when i tried to ./configure it, i get the following error:
> 
> .....
> .....
> .....
> checking for shmget... yes
> checking for PLGetString in -lPropList... no
> 
> ERROR!!! libPropList is not installed, or could not be found.
>          Window Maker requires libPropList to build.
>          Please read INSTALL to find where you can find libPropList,
>          and install it first.
> 
> How can i fix it ?
> Did anybody have the same problem ?
> 
> Thank you for your time and cooperation.
> 
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> You use windowze because the guy on TV told you to ...
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Dear Sirs:

   While looking at pages for other than NT operating systems, I see
that Linux and Open BSD are claimed to be UNIX -like, or UNIX-type,
while FreeBSD is claimed to be UNIX.  It makes me wonder if Open BSD
is indeed also UNIX-like?  Is it?  (And what makes it UNIX instead of
UNIX-like anyway?)

   Snippets from web pages devoted to the operating systems follow.

FreeBSD is an advanced BSD UNIX operating system for "PC-compatible"
computers, developed and maintained by a large team of individuals.

The OpenBSD project produces a FREE, multi-platform 4.4BSD-based
UNIX-like operating system. Our efforts
place emphasis on portability, standardization, correctness, security,
and cryptography. OpenBSD supports binary emulation of most programs
from SVR4 (Solaris), FreeBSD, Linux, BSDI, SunOS, and HPUX. 

Linux is a free Unix-type operating system            originally
created by Linus Torvalds with the
assistance of developers around the world. 
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I believe that it's based on a DEC 21143 which isn't completely 
working for many operating systems.

It has material differences from the 21140 chip.  Compaq/DEC
*should* have changed the version number as much since it is
causing quite a bit of confusion among developers and users
alike.

Better Luck,

Jerry Hicks
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Subject: Ethernet card question
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 16:56:18 -0800

> Do Kingston's EtherRX 10/100BASE-TX/KNE110TX cards work with FreeBSD? I've
> tried the de0 and tx0 driver and neither detects the card....
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On Friday,  5 February 1999 at 17:43:43 -0800, Randall Senn wrote:
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> Dear Sirs:
>

>    While looking at pages for other than NT operating systems, I see
> that Linux and Open BSD are claimed to be UNIX -like, or UNIX-type,
> while FreeBSD is claimed to be UNIX.  It makes me wonder if Open BSD
> is indeed also UNIX-like?  Is it?  (And what makes it UNIX instead
> of UNIX-like anyway?)

That depends on what you're talking about :-)

  UNIX is a trade mark of AT&T.  Oh, no, they sold it to Univel.
  Wait, Univel became part of Novell.  Hmm, Novell sold the product to
  SCO.  Ah, but SCO gave the name to the Open Group.

If we look at this question of ownership, none of the free operating
systems are UNIX.

  The Open Group introduced certification.  UNIX 95.  UNIX 98.
  Anybody who wanted to provide a minimum of UNIX-like functionality
  and a lot of money could have their product branded UNIX.  Or was
  that 95% UNIX?

If we look at the question of certification, IBM's mainframe OS/390 is
UNIX.  Microsoft's "NT" environment is UNIX.  None of the free
operating systems are UNIX.

  UNIX was originally a research project within AT&T's Bell
  Laboratories.  It was taken up both commercially (System V) and by
  universities, particularly the University of California at
  Berkeley.  UCB had a very strong influence on UNIX, and all current
  versions of UNIX contain UCB code.  They called their software the
  Berkeley Software Distribution (BSD).

If we look at the question of origin, FreeBSD, NetBSD and OpenBSD are
UNIX.  Linux is UNIX-like.  I find "UNIX-type" a rather funny
description, but obviously it's valid.

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>      What does BSD stand for?
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Berkely Software Distribution.

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David Kelly wrote:
> 
> Patrick Anthofer writes:
> > I have an Intel Pentium 133 / 32MB Ram and 2 HD with 2 partitions each.
> > One Harddrive has got the NTFS and the other one has got FAT.
> > I was wondering what would happen if I installed FREE BSD on one of the
> > FAT Partitions. Would a MULTI OS BOOT Manager be created or something
> > like that?
> 
> You'd probably want to REPLACE one or two of the FAT partitions. Just
> tell FreeBSD it can have it.  :-)
> 
> Mark Ovens pointed out there are instructions in the FreeBSD FAQ on how
> to use NT as your boot loader, here is the URL:
> 
> http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/FAQ122.html#122
> 
> Personally, I left an empty partition at the start of my 9G HD, empty
> for a year or two, until I broke down and put NT 4.0 there. *I* boot
> into NT from BootEasy.
> 

Now there's a neat trick :-), installing NT _after_ FreeBSD _and_ using
BootEasy to boot it. How about documenting it.

I always take the safe route, install M$ first as it stomps on the MBR
because it assumes that there's only M$ OS's on the disk, whereas
FreeBSD behaves itself and it's easy enough to dd the first 512 bytes of
the FreeBSD slice into C:\BOOTSECT.BSD and edit C:\BOOT.INI.


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hello all.


in tring to install a hand me down drive from an old dell server from days
gone by im running into some problems. the drive is a 4 gig Seagate
ST-15150N SCSI-2 Fast (Barracuda 4). The drive came out of a FBSD server
running 2.2.5 so i know the drive works.  when the box is booting it will
find and reconise the drive. the problem comes when 1. i try and fireup
sysinstall for repartion the drive, after probing from devise it will
finally spit out the following

outcast /kernel: sd0(aic0:5:0): timed out

2. this same error is probuced when i try and mount it manually.

I was wondering, if this is coused by a termination problem? or maybe a
SCSI conflict? the only other SCSI device in the box is the SCSI card
itself and it is running on IRQ11. I've check seagates site for other
jumper settings but was having a hell of a time tring to figger out the
setting from what they provided. If anyone has experance with these drives
or any thoughts on the error, please contact me



Thanks for any help



Chris Jeter 




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Hello,

Here's a puzzler:

My 3.0-STABLE kernel as of 3 Feb. 1999 works wonderfully and the fxp0
ethernet driver for the on-the-motherboard Intel EtherExpress 10/100 works
well.

Advance 2 days.  I add a SoundBlaster card to the box and recompile the
kernel to support the voxware stuff (using the SAME sources the other kernel
was compiled from, the 3 Feb. 1999 STABLE sources), reboot, and...

fxp0: device timeout

Error City, Arizona!  The device refuses to work.  The link light (green
LED) on the motherboard still glows a friendly green, as does the green LED
link light on the 10baseT hub on my desk.  The 'net cable is a known good
working cable.  Nevertheless, I try swapping cables, wiggling cables,
powering down the hub, switching hub ports, etc. to of no avail.  I reboot
several times as well.  Nothing.  No network.

So, I reboot and use my 3 Feb. kernel again without the sound support. 
Network works wonderfully again.

Here's the ONLY differences between the two kernel configs:

The ONLY difference between the two kernels is that the newer (and
unnetworkable) kernel adds the following to the config:

controller      pnp0
controller      snd0
device sb0      at isa? port 0x220 irq 5 conflicts drq 1 vector sbintr
device sbxvi0   at isa? drq 5
device sbmidi0  at isa? port 0x330
device opl0     at isa? port 0x388
device awe0     at isa? port 0x620

Also, during boot, I added the /kernel.config PNP stuff so that the AWE64
wavetable MIDI would work (and with the new non-working-network kernel, all
the AWE devices are detected wonderfully).

Any ideas?  Are you as puzzled as I am?

Thanks in advance for any/all commentary.

Aaron out.

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libPropList-0.8.3 has been in the ports since 2/2/99,
but the WindowMaker port is still at 0.50.2 not 0.51.0.
Calling Vanilla Shu!

On Fri, 5 Feb 1999, W Gerald Hicks wrote:

> 
> No... What you want is /usr/ports/x11-wm/windomaker
> 
> Learn how to keep your system updated and use the ports subsystem.
> 
> You'll be much happier. :-)
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Jerry Hicks
> wghicks@bellsouth.net
> 
> From: Gustavo Vieira G C Rios <grios@netshell.vicosa.com.br>
> Subject: WindowMaker
> Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 22:03:49 -0200
> 
> > To install WindowMaker 0.51.0 i need LibPropList.
> > I got PropList 0.8.3 version and i installed it as told in INSTALL file
> > guide:
> > ./configure && make && make isntall
> > 
> > No problem
> > 
> > the problem comes now!!!!!!!
> > 
> > I am trying to get The Latest WindowMaker version working on my system,
> > but when i tried to ./configure it, i get the following error:
> > 
> > .....
> > .....
> > .....
> > checking for shmget... yes
> > checking for PLGetString in -lPropList... no
> > 
> > ERROR!!! libPropList is not installed, or could not be found.
> >          Window Maker requires libPropList to build.
> >          Please read INSTALL to find where you can find libPropList,
> >          and install it first.
> > 
> > How can i fix it ?
> > Did anybody have the same problem ?
> > 
> > Thank you for your time and cooperation.
> > 
> > -- 
> > I use UNIX because reboots are for hardware upgrades.
> > You use windowze because the guy on TV told you to ...
> > Gustavo Rios - UNIX System Admin.
> > +---------------------------------------------------+
> > 
> > 
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On Friday,  5 February 1999 at 20:29:05 -0600, Chris wrote:
> hello all.
>
>
> in tring to install a hand me down drive from an old dell server from days
> gone by im running into some problems. the drive is a 4 gig Seagate
> ST-15150N SCSI-2 Fast (Barracuda 4). The drive came out of a FBSD server
> running 2.2.5 so i know the drive works.  when the box is booting it will
> find and reconise the drive. the problem comes when 1. i try and fireup
> sysinstall for repartion the drive, after probing from devise it will
> finally spit out the following
>
> outcast /kernel: sd0(aic0:5:0): timed out
>
> 2. this same error is probuced when i try and mount it manually.
>
> I was wondering, if this is coused by a termination problem? or maybe a
> SCSI conflict?

Probably termination.  What does your dmesg say?

> the only other SCSI device in the box is the SCSI card
> itself and it is running on IRQ11. I've check seagates site for other
> jumper settings but was having a hell of a time tring to figger out the
> setting from what they provided. If anyone has experance with these drives
> or any thoughts on the error, please contact me

It's unlikely to be the drive.  Let's see the dmesg first.

Greg
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Is there any one smart enough here that got WindowMaker working without
using the ports ?
i am trying to buil it, but without success !!!!
when i configure (./configure) my windowmaker it returns me that i don't
have libPropList installed (that's not true, i just installed it)!
How to get it running ?

Steve Emmert wrote:
> 
> libPropList-0.8.3 has been in the ports since 2/2/99,
> but the WindowMaker port is still at 0.50.2 not 0.51.0.
> Calling Vanilla Shu!
> 
> On Fri, 5 Feb 1999, W Gerald Hicks wrote:
> 
> >
> > No... What you want is /usr/ports/x11-wm/windomaker
> >
> > Learn how to keep your system updated and use the ports subsystem.
> >
> > You'll be much happier. :-)
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Jerry Hicks
> > wghicks@bellsouth.net
> >
> > From: Gustavo Vieira G C Rios <grios@netshell.vicosa.com.br>
> > Subject: WindowMaker
> > Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 22:03:49 -0200
> >
> > > To install WindowMaker 0.51.0 i need LibPropList.
> > > I got PropList 0.8.3 version and i installed it as told in INSTALL file
> > > guide:
> > > ./configure && make && make isntall
> > >
> > > No problem
> > >
> > > the problem comes now!!!!!!!
> > >
> > > I am trying to get The Latest WindowMaker version working on my system,
> > > but when i tried to ./configure it, i get the following error:
> > >
> > > .....
> > > .....
> > > .....
> > > checking for shmget... yes
> > > checking for PLGetString in -lPropList... no
> > >
> > > ERROR!!! libPropList is not installed, or could not be found.
> > >          Window Maker requires libPropList to build.
> > >          Please read INSTALL to find where you can find libPropList,
> > >          and install it first.
> > >
> > > How can i fix it ?
> > > Did anybody have the same problem ?
> > >
> > > Thank you for your time and cooperation.
> > >
> > > --
> > > I use UNIX because reboots are for hardware upgrades.
> > > You use windowze because the guy on TV told you to ...
> > > Gustavo Rios - UNIX System Admin.
> > > +---------------------------------------------------+
> > >
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as requested.

[snip]


Feb  5 15:46:22 outcast /kernel: aic0 at 0x340-0x35f irq 11 on isa
Feb  5 15:46:22 outcast /kernel: aic0 waiting for scsi devices to settle
Feb  5 15:46:22 outcast /kernel: (aic0:5:0): "SEAGATE ST15150N 0022" type 0 
fixed SCSI 2
Feb  5 15:46:22 outcast /kernel: sd0(aic0:5:0): Direct-Access 4095MB
(8388315 512 byte sectors) 


[snip]


chris


On Sat, 6 Feb 1999, Greg Lehey wrote:

> On Friday,  5 February 1999 at 20:29:05 -0600, Chris wrote:
> > hello all.
> >
> >
> > in tring to install a hand me down drive from an old dell server from days
> > gone by im running into some problems. the drive is a 4 gig Seagate
> > ST-15150N SCSI-2 Fast (Barracuda 4). The drive came out of a FBSD server
> > running 2.2.5 so i know the drive works.  when the box is booting it will
> > find and reconise the drive. the problem comes when 1. i try and fireup
> > sysinstall for repartion the drive, after probing from devise it will
> > finally spit out the following
> >
> > outcast /kernel: sd0(aic0:5:0): timed out
> >
> > 2. this same error is probuced when i try and mount it manually.
> >
> > I was wondering, if this is coused by a termination problem? or maybe a
> > SCSI conflict?
> 
> Probably termination.  What does your dmesg say?
> 
> > the only other SCSI device in the box is the SCSI card
> > itself and it is running on IRQ11. I've check seagates site for other
> > jumper settings but was having a hell of a time tring to figger out the
> > setting from what they provided. If anyone has experance with these drives
> > or any thoughts on the error, please contact me
> 
> It's unlikely to be the drive.  Let's see the dmesg first.
> 
> Greg
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At 12:25 AM 2/6/99 -0200, Gustavo Vieira G C Rios wrote:
>Is there any one smart enough here that got WindowMaker working without
>using the ports ?

Why not use the ports?  It's a great resource, and I'd _love_ to use the
ports to install WindowMaker if I could figure out how to upgrade to
3.0-STABLE so I could use png-1.0.3 instead of png-1.0.2, which doesn't
work with windowmaker... but that's my own little problem  :)




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On Friday,  5 February 1999 at 20:45:41 -0600, Chris wrote:
> On Sat, 6 Feb 1999, Greg Lehey wrote:
>
>> On Friday,  5 February 1999 at 20:29:05 -0600, Chris wrote:
>>> hello all.
>>>
>>>
>>> in tring to install a hand me down drive from an old dell server from days
>>> gone by im running into some problems. the drive is a 4 gig Seagate
>>> ST-15150N SCSI-2 Fast (Barracuda 4). The drive came out of a FBSD server
>>> running 2.2.5 so i know the drive works.  when the box is booting it will
>>> find and reconise the drive. the problem comes when 1. i try and fireup
>>> sysinstall for repartion the drive, after probing from devise it will
>>> finally spit out the following
>>>
>>> outcast /kernel: sd0(aic0:5:0): timed out
>>>
>>> 2. this same error is probuced when i try and mount it manually.
>>>
>>> I was wondering, if this is coused by a termination problem? or maybe a
>>> SCSI conflict?
>>
>> Probably termination.  What does your dmesg say?
>>
>>> the only other SCSI device in the box is the SCSI card
>>> itself and it is running on IRQ11. I've check seagates site for other
>>> jumper settings but was having a hell of a time tring to figger out the
>>> setting from what they provided. If anyone has experance with these drives
>>> or any thoughts on the error, please contact me
>>
>> It's unlikely to be the drive.  Let's see the dmesg first.
>
> as requested.
>
> Feb  5 15:46:22 outcast /kernel: aic0 at 0x340-0x35f irq 11 on isa
> Feb  5 15:46:22 outcast /kernel: aic0 waiting for scsi devices to settle
> Feb  5 15:46:22 outcast /kernel: (aic0:5:0): "SEAGATE ST15150N 0022" type 0 fixed SCSI 2
> Feb  5 15:46:22 outcast /kernel: sd0(aic0:5:0): Direct-Access 4095MB (8388315 512 byte sectors)

Looks OK so far.  Where are the terminators installed?  Can you run
disklabel -r and fdisk against it?  For example,

# disklabel -r sd0
# /dev/rsd0c:
type: SCSI
disk: sd0s1
label: 
flags:
bytes/sector: 512
sectors/track: 55
tracks/cylinder: 26
sectors/cylinder: 1430
cylinders: 2955
sectors/unit: 4226725
rpm: 3600
interleave: 1
trackskew: 0
cylinderskew: 0
headswitch: 0           # milliseconds
track-to-track seek: 0  # milliseconds
drivedata: 0 

8 partitions:
#        size   offset    fstype   [fsize bsize bps/cpg]
  a:    81920   344064    4.2BSD        0     0     0   # (Cyl.  240*- 297*)
  b:   262144    81920      swap                        # (Cyl.   57*- 240*)
  c:  4226725        0    unused        0     0         # (Cyl.    0 - 2955*)
  e:    81920        0    4.2BSD        0     0     0   # (Cyl.    0 - 57*)
  f:  1900000   425984    4.2BSD        0     0     0   # (Cyl.  297*- 1626*)
  g:  1900741  2325984    4.2BSD        0     0     0   # (Cyl. 1626*- 2955*)

# fdisk sd0
******* Working on device /dev/rsd0 *******
parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are:
cylinders=7044 heads=20 sectors/track=30 (600 blks/cyl)

Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1
parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are:
cylinders=7044 heads=20 sectors/track=30 (600 blks/cyl)

Media sector size is 512
Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1
Information from DOS bootblock is:
The data for partition 1 is:
sysid 165,(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD)
    start 0, size 4226725 (2063 Meg), flag 80 (active)
        beg: cyl 0/ sector 1/ head 0;
        end: cyl 1023/ sector 30/ head 19
The data for partition 2 is:
<UNUSED>
The data for partition 3 is:
<UNUSED>
The data for partition 4 is:
<UNUSED>

Greg
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Why is all the Windows managers requesting xpm.4 when xpm is 3.4?

ports from stable 3.0 I have 3.4






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> I believe that it's based on a DEC 21143 which isn't completely 
> working for many operating systems.
> 
> It has material differences from the 21140 chip.  Compaq/DEC
> *should* have changed the version number as much since it is
> causing quite a bit of confusion among developers and users
> alike.

Hmm, well luckily it was only one card. So I simply just swapped an Intel
from a Windows machine. Anyone know if support for this card will happen
soon? For $29, I'd rather use these than Intel's as long as support was
decent. 




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"Victor M. Carranza G." <victor@mp.lex.gob.gt>
> 
> On Fri, 5 Feb 1999, Aaron D. Gifford wrote:
> 
> > Here's a puzzler:
> >
> > My 3.0-STABLE kernel as of 3 Feb. 1999 works wonderfully and the fxp0
> > ethernet driver for the on-the-motherboard Intel EtherExpress 10/100 works
> > well.
> >
> > Advance 2 days.  I add a SoundBlaster card to the box and recompile the
> > kernel to support the voxware stuff (using the SAME sources the other kernel
> > was compiled from, the 3 Feb. 1999 STABLE sources), reboot, and...
> >
> > fxp0: device timeout
> 
> It looks to me like a resource conflict. Make sure your network device is
> not configured for the same resources as any of the sound system modules.
> PNP is not as smart as it should be... it sometimes shows little respect
> for resources which are already owned by non-pnp devices.
> 
> Try leaving the sound card configured with IRQ 10, dma 1:6, I/O 0x530, and
> your ethernet as IRQ 5, 0x210 (mine is configured that way and works
> well). You will probably need to re-configure pnp stuff using kernel
> configuration in CLI mode.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Victor Carranza

Thanks for the tip!  I recompiled my kernel telling the sound card to use
IRQ 10, modified my /kernel.config pnp statements to match, rebooted, and at
last I have sound and networking simultaneously!  :)

Aaron out.

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I had to configure libPropList with --prefix-/usr/X11R6
not the default /usr/local. This allowed the new WindowMaker
to configure properly.  why this worked, I don't know.
Then when PropList 0.83.0 came out in the ports, I deleted the libs
in /usr/X11R6/lib/ and installed the port. I also configured
WindowMaker with --prefix-/usr/X11R6 (The existing port installs
it there also). You should uninstall the libs in /usr/local/lib
before you reinstall them in /usr/X11R6/lib/. Use ldconfig -r to 
check on your libraries.
 
On Sat, 6 Feb 1999, Gustavo Vieira G C Rios wrote:

> Is there any one smart enough here that got WindowMaker working without
> using the ports ?
> i am trying to buil it, but without success !!!!
> when i configure (./configure) my windowmaker it returns me that i don't
> have libPropList installed (that's not true, i just installed it)!
> How to get it running ?

Steve


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> 
> I apologize for doing this again but I managed to trash the response I got.
> Any users in North Carolina??? TIA.

 I'm attempting to set up a Triangle Area user's group.  I've only gotten
a smattering of replies though...

 Once the "smattering" gets above, oh, say 5 - I think we'll be a go.

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I've been getting my server ready to switch from FreeBSD 2.2.2 to 3.0
Release.  Everything was going well until I tried to bring my kernel ppp
link up to my isp.  I get many silo overflow messages when there's any
activity on the line.  The connection doesn't seem very responsive either.  
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Hello,

I just got sound somewhat working in my 3.0-STABLE kernel (SoundBlaster
AWE64 card), installed the amp port from (/usr/ports/audio/amp), then tried
it out:

% amp -s test-test-123.mp3

amp 0.7.6, (C) Tomislav Uzelac 1996,1997
THIS PROGRAM COMES WITH ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY
PLEASE READ THE DOCUMENTATION FOR DETAILS

Playing: test-test-123.mp3

Properties:    stereo 44100Hz
Coding Method: MPEG1.0 layer3
Bitrate:       128kbit/s
{ 70 }                

At this point I hear approx. 1/2 second of the audio, crystal clear,
perfect, then dead silence, and the frame counter (the { 70 } part) stops
dead.  I CTRL-C out, and restart, but amp reports "Unable to open the audio
device".  I wait 15 seconds, try again, and the same thing repeats, 1/2
second of audio, then dead silence.

Hmm, I think, maybe this is an amp bug?  So I install mpg123 and try it.  I
only hear silence with mpg123, even though the frame counter slowly (slow in
the extreme) progresses through it.

Not one to give up easily, I use amp's ability to convert .mp3 to other
formats:

% amp -s -convert test-test-123.mp3 test.out
...
then
...
% cat test.out > /dev/audio

I hear SCREETCHing sound for about a second, then nothing for about 10
seconds, then I see:

cat: stdout: Input/output error

Here's a cat of /dev/sndstat:
# cat /dev/sndstat

VoxWare Sound Driver:3.5-alpha15-970902 (Wed Aug  6 22:58:35 PDT 1997
Amancio Hasty@rah.star-gate.com)
Config options:

Installed drivers:
Type 1: OPL-2/OPL-3 FM
Type 2: SoundBlaster
Type 6: SoundBlaster16
Type 25: AWE32 Synth
Type 7: SB16 MIDI


Card config:
SoundBlaster at 0x220 irq 10 drq 1
SoundBlaster16 at 0xffffffff irq 1 drq 5
SB16 MIDI at 0x330 irq 1
OPL-2/OPL-3 FM at 0x388 irq 1
AWE32 Synth at 0x620 irq 1

Audio devices:
0: SoundBlaster 16 4.16

Synth devices:
0: Yamaha OPL-3
1: AWE32-0.4.2c (RAM512k)

Midi devices:
0: SoundBlaster 16 Midi

Timers:
0: System clock

Mixers:
0: SoundBlaster
1: AWE32 Equalizer



Any ideas where I should look next?

Thanks in advance!

Aaron out.

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I am running 2.2.7, and have some pppd scripts that I have used for the 
last couple of years to connect to my ISP. I upgraded from my 28.8 to a 
3com IQ ISDN T/A. I changed the phone number, and try to connect. I get 
pass the PSP authentication, and then packets don't forward across the 
line.

Connect the 28.8 modem to the serial port, dial the script, it connects and 
forwards packets.
Connect the ISDN T/A to the same serial port dial the script get the 
dynamic IPs assigned. I try to ping the local assigned IP, and I get 100% 
packet failure. Ping the remote IP, get 100% packet failure, but the SD/RD 
lights flash on the T/A.
Reconnect the 28.8 modem, and all work correctly.

If I change the pap-secrets file to contain the wrong password, the ppp 
connection fails, but the correct password back I get assigned IPs. So, 
there is some talking working across the T/A.

Is there a kernel option to support ISDN T/A? It is an external T/A, 
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NOTE: If I use the evil bill os (NT) the T/A will connect with both 
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Please reply directly, as I do not currently subscribe to this list.

Dan Busarow writes:
[ lots of historical stuff deleted]

> > Help???
> 
> Try this.  Reboot the system to clear any ipfw counters.
> Try making the outbound connection and then run
> 
> # ipfw show
> 
> That should show you which rule is causing the problem.
> 
> Send the output of ipfw show and netstat -rn

Wow I am REALLY convinced that something is REALLY broken.  Having tried
what Dan suggested and not learning much (everything looked like it SHOULD
have worked) I've gone to a TRIVIAL ruleset, and even THAT doesn't work!

Since the rc.firewall code does an ipfw -f flush each time it is run,
I haven't had to reboot to clear the counters.  All the counters
except for the permanent rule (65536 deny ip from any to any) get
cleared -- this may be a "feature", since that rule is never flushed.

The new ruleset should simply allow unrestricted access to the gateway
machine itself on the external interface.  What actually happens is
that the telnet session that I have open to enable the firewall continues
to work (and this accounts for the counter activity on the in the
"established" rule), a new telnet session never gives me the banner
and prompt, even though the "setup" rule counter gets incremented.

Right now, I only see three possibilities:

1) The operation of the firewall code has changed in some subtle way that
   I am unable to infer or discern from examining the example code.
2) I am missing something so obvious that I am staring right at it.
3) FreeBSD 2.2.7 ipfw and/or kernel code is BROKEN.

Following is the information requested:

01000          6        363 allow tcp from any to any established
01250          1         68 allow tcp from any to 137.192.130.29 setup
01251          0          0 allow tcp from 137.192.130.29 to any
01420          0          0 allow tcp from any to any 53 setup
01421          3        216 allow udp from any to any 53
01430          0          0 allow icmp from any to any
65535          4        813 deny ip from any to any

Routing tables

Internet:
Destination        Gateway            Flags     Refs     Use     Netif Expire
default            137.192.130.30     UGSc        3      387       ed0
127.0.0.1          127.0.0.1          UH          0        0       lo0
137.192.130.16/29  link#2             UC          0        0
137.192.130.20     0:a0:c9:32:2:df    UHLW        1      466       ed1    842
137.192.130.24/29  link#1             UC          0        0
137.192.130.30     0:e0:d0:0:d8:60    UHLW        4        0       ed0    798


Please reply directly, as I do not currently subscribe to this list.

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> Do Kingston's EtherRX 10/100BASE-TX/KNE110TX cards work with FreeBSD? I've
> tried the de0 and tx0 driver and neither detects the card....

	Yep, I use them both fine. I think it's the de0 driver, but don't
know for sure as I'm not near my FreeBSD machines...:( 


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Hiya,

Is there any command or display available that will actually display the
kernel panic?

d.



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I'm trying to run a 3Com 3c389D Etherlink III card in a Compaq Presario
1610 laptop, running PCCard support.  When I plug in my card, the kernel
tells me that the card is detected, and it is loading the ep0 driver.
When I try to do anything, however, I get very disappointing results.
Ping always has 100% packet loss, yet netstat -r gives a full and detailed
network table, complete with ethernet addresses.  Traceroute also gives me
returns, hopping from host to host, but at a return time of 2,000ms.
Clearly, there is network traffic, but why is it so slow?

This very same card works on a Winbook XP of mine, another laptop running
2.2.7, but it uses the zp0 driver.  That notebook uses the card fine,
without any hassle (it's a 486 if that's important).  


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On Saturday,  6 February 1999 at 12:14:37 +0800, Dean Hollister wrote:
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> Is there any command or display available that will actually display the
> kernel panic?

gdb.  See  the section on ``Kernel debugging''.

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Hello

i had 486 and 586 intel PC.  it has fail test when testing y2k program.
Both i install freebsd, is there Y2k problem?

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Randall Senn writes:
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> Dear Sirs:
> 
>      Starting to look at your web site, I saw this snippet.
> 
> FreeBSD is an advanced BSD UNIX operating system for "PC-compatible"
> computers, developed and maintained by a large team of individuals.
> 
>       What does BSD stand for?

It stands for something in a secret language that only members can know.
It doesn't translate literally but its ok to tell you that BSD's
translation is something between, "Formula-1 Racing Team", "Penguins are
tasty snacks", and "We have a better sense of humor than Linux."  :-)

In short, to know what BSD really means you have to jump in and use it.

Others have already provided the straight answer. There is an equal 
amount of truth to my answer too as these days BSD means a whole lot 
more than what the initials represent.

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Does anybody know how to configure the NT Boot loader to boot FreeBSD
3.0-STABLE which is using the new boot blocks?  I have tried (many times)
using the boot sector of the secondary master (where FreeBSD resides) to no
avail.  I have tried:

        dd if=/dev/rwd2s3 of=boot.bsd bs=512 count=1

When the loader loads this it says: Boot Error.

I never had any problem with Linux, so I must be missing something here.

Tom Veldhouse
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Hi,
Today I install FreeBSD 3.0-RELEASE and upgrade source to current (by mean of cvsup).
Then - standart procedure:
cd /usr/src
make buildworld && make installworld
cd /sys/i386/conf
config <MY_KERNEL>
cd ../../compile/<MY_KERNEL>
make depend && make && make install

But:
kernel.old (kernel.GENERIC of 3.0-RELEASE) has a.out format and
kernel (FreeBSD-current) has elf format and when I boot kernel,
loader say: Invalid file format!;
Loading of old kernel (kernel.old) is OK.

What's wrong?
Or current doesn't support elf-kernel?

Thanks, Ilya.

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On Fri, Feb 05, 1999 at 07:21:55PM -0500, Chris Johnson wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 05, 1999 at 06:37:54PM -0500, Troy Settle wrote:
> > 
> > On Mon, 25 Jan 1999, Joseph M. Scott wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > On Tue, 26 Jan 1999, Leif Neland wrote:
> > > 
> > > > I'm looking for a dummy pop3-server, which can authorize anybody, and just
> > > > send a single message: 'Hey dummy, we have moved the pop3-server; don't
> > > > use this ip-adress, use the name: "mail.our.domain" instead.'
> > > 
> > > 	You could also forward all pop3 traffic to the new machine.  It's
> > > probably unlikely that the people checking their email will ever get the "
> > > the pop server is now at : whatever_ip", though this may depend largely on
> > > the mail client.
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > I'm trying to redirect port 110 traffic to the appropriate host.  I had
> > thought that running a simple script to telnet over would do the trick,
> > but at least one MUA doesn't seem to like it much (works great by telnet).
> > 
> > Anyways, I looked at the man page for ipfw(8), and tried to figure out
> > that divert thing, but it makes no sense in the context of the man page.
> > Can anyone shed some light on this?
> > 
> > Or, if anyone has a perl or C proggy that just opens a transparent socket
> > to another host, I'd appreciate it.
> 
> There's a simple way to do it. First, install two ports:
> /usr/ports/sysutils/ucspi-tcp and /usr/ports/net/netcat. Then, on the old host,
> run (as root):
> 
> tcpserver 0 110 nc newhost.com 110 &
> 
> where newhost.com is the name of the new POP host. That's all there is to it!
> Connections to port 110 on the old host will be connected to port 110 on the
> new host.

To follow up my own post, it's easier than that. I don't make much use of inetd
so I didn't think of it, but you can install just the netcat port and stick
this in /etc/inetd.conf:

pop3  stream  tcp   nowait  nobody  /usr/local/bin/nc   nc name.of.new.host 110

Chris

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On Saturday,  6 February 1999 at  8:53:04 +0300, Ilya V. Komarov wrote:
> Hi,
> Today I install FreeBSD 3.0-RELEASE and upgrade source to current (by mean of cvsup).
> Then - standart procedure:
> cd /usr/src
> make buildworld && make installworld
> cd /sys/i386/conf
> config <MY_KERNEL>
> cd ../../compile/<MY_KERNEL>
> make depend && make && make install
>
> But:
> kernel.old (kernel.GENERIC of 3.0-RELEASE) has a.out format and
> kernel (FreeBSD-current) has elf format and when I boot kernel,
> loader say: Invalid file format!;
> Loading of old kernel (kernel.old) is OK.
>
> What's wrong?
> Or current doesn't support elf-kernel?

Repeat after me:

  IF YOU USE CURRENT, SUBSCRIBE TO THE FreeBSD-CURRENT MAILING LIST,
  AND READ THE MESSAGES.

You should not use the standard procedure for upgrading to -CURRENT at
the moment.  Lots of messages have gone around on -CURRENT warning
people of different ways of shooting themselves in the foot.  You have
found one.

Reboot your old kernel, get the instructions from the -CURRENT
archive, and try again.  Hopefully you'll be able to continue: it's
possible that the old kernel won't work too well with the new
userland.

Greg
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Hello!

I just set up my freebsd 3.0-release system by downloading everything
through an ethernet connection at work, but how do I configure it so that I
can have both my ethernet connection working, and my modem connection
working when i'm at home (where my computer is going to be 99% of the
time). I'm using kde, and the kppp dialer to connect, I believe I have set
up the connection correctly, as it is very similiar to the win95 one.
However, when I try to connect it gets to "starting pppd" and just stops
there and times out. 

Heres a copy of my routing table which so far has only been set up for
ethernet:

pat# netstat -nr
routing tables

internet:

destination	gateway     flags	refs	use	netif expire
default     207.159.73.1  ugsc	0	0	ed1
127.0.0.1   127.0.0.1     uh	0	0	lo0
207.159.73  link#1	     uc	0	0	ed1
207.159.73.1 link#1	     uhlw     1      0     ed1

I was under the impression that the kppp dialer would automatically add the
necessary entries permanently, or at least temporarily that I added in upon
setting up the connection. Also, four my default gateway (207.159.73.1),
that is a router, which is my gateway when i'm on the lan at work, but when
I dial in (I work for the isp), would my default gateway become the ip of
one of our racks of modems (207.159.73.7 , 207.159.73.9)? 

And, if this matters, I have a static ip, 207.159.73.33, and my host name
is pat.expresshost.com.

Please get back to me with any suggestions...

Patrick
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>Hi,
>Today I install FreeBSD 3.0-RELEASE and upgrade source to current (by mean
of cvsup).
>Then - standart procedure:
>cd /usr/src
>make buildworld && make installworld
>cd /sys/i386/conf
>config <MY_KERNEL>
>cd ../../compile/<MY_KERNEL>
>make depend && make && make install
>
>But:
>kernel.old (kernel.GENERIC of 3.0-RELEASE) has a.out format and
>kernel (FreeBSD-current) has elf format and when I boot kernel,
>loader say: Invalid file format!;
>Loading of old kernel (kernel.old) is OK.
>
>What's wrong?
>Or current doesn't support elf-kernel?



Did you update your bootblocks?

See http://www.freebsd.org/~peter/elfday.html

--Dan




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> Microsoft's "NT" environment is UNIX.

A friend of mine was also told this at an IBM point-of-sale system AIX
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When hard drive support was added to PC-DOS, Microsoft incorporated more
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On Saturday,  6 February 1999 at  1:13:14 -0500, Patrick Morris wrote:
>
> I just set up my freebsd 3.0-release system by downloading everything
> through an ethernet connection at work, but how do I configure it so that I
> can have both my ethernet connection working, and my modem connection
> working when i'm at home (where my computer is going to be 99% of the
> time). I'm using kde, and the kppp dialer

I don't know a kppp dialer.  Do you mean Kernel PPP?  That's not a
dialer, and we don't abbreviate it that way.

> to connect, I believe I have set up the connection correctly, as it
> is very similiar to the win95 one.  However, when I try to connect
> it gets to "starting pppd" and just stops there and times out.

It sounds to me very much like you haven't set the connection up
correctly :-)

> Heres a copy of my routing table which so far has only been set up for
> ethernet:
>
> <snip>

Your routing table is completely uninteresting until you get the
connection up, in which case it almost always gets set automatically.
This routing table showed a typical routing table printout, except
that everything somehow got downshifted.

> I was under the impression that the kppp dialer would automatically
> add the necessary entries permanently, or at least temporarily

Temporarily.

> that I added in upon setting up the connection.

Well, pppd sets them up for you.  And don't forget you don't have a
connection yet.

> Also, four my default gateway (207.159.73.1), that is a router,
> which is my gateway when i'm on the lan at work, but when I dial in
> (I work for the isp), would my default gateway become the ip of one
> of our racks of modems (207.159.73.7 , 207.159.73.9)?

Your default gateway would become the other end of the PPP link, so I
suppose yes.  But don't worry about it, pppd sets it for you.

> And, if this matters, I have a static ip, 207.159.73.33, and my host name
> is pat.expresshost.com.
>
> Please get back to me with any suggestions...

You remind me of the drunk under the lamppost looking for his keys.
Somebody said ``are you sure you dropped them here''.  The drunk said,
``no, over there, but the light's better here''.

First we need to know what's wrong with your PPP connection.  The
routing will take care of itself (hopefully).  Where are your config
files?  Have you done the chat script in debug mode?  What are you
using as a dialer (pppd doesn't dial)?

Greg
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On Friday,  5 February 1999 at 23:00:36 -0800, Dan O'Connor wrote:
>> Microsoft's "NT" environment is UNIX.
>
> A friend of mine was also told this at an IBM point-of-sale system AIX
> seminar. Do you know of any documentation on this? I can't find anywhere
> where Microsoft admits to NT be derived from Unix.

NT is very definitely *not* UNIX, and it's not derived from it.  But
it passes the specification for UNIX 95%.  That's the point I was
making.  I don't know where to find that, but you might try snooping
around the OpenGroup's web pages.

> When hard drive support was added to PC-DOS, Microsoft incorporated more
> Unix-like commands (albeit with a renegade \ directory delimiter and a /
> switch character), but I've never seen anything suggesting NT (ne-OS/2)
> *was* Unix.

No, NT has nothing to do with OS/2.  They gave OS/2 up as a bad job
(presumably from a marketing point of view) and got a guy in from DEC
who had been working with a successor to VMS (take the next letter for
each of the initials and you get WNT :-).

> If it is, it begs the question: Why is NT less stable and less
> robust than Unix?

If it isn't, it still begs that question.  Even given the fact that
Microsoft doesn't have to care, I can't understand it.

Greg
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Greetings,

On my 3.0-STABLE system, I updated XFree86 to 3.3.3.1 using the binary
distributions from ftp.xfree86.org, but pkg_info still reports 3.3.2 as the
registered version.

Is there an easy way of letting the system know that a new version has been
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Dan O'Connor wrote:

You're both right and wrong, from someone who has been around DOS since
before there was a Microsoft involved with it.

> 
> > Microsoft's "NT" environment is UNIX.
> 
> A friend of mine was also told this at an IBM point-of-sale system AIX
> seminar. Do you know of any documentation on this? I can't find anywhere
> where Microsoft admits to NT be derived from Unix.

NT was cloned from UNIX the same way that LINUX was -- only commercially
instead of under the GNU Public Virus.  What Microsoft did was hire
DEC's top UNIX OS developer (sorry, forgot his name) who swore that he
was going to write "The world's best UNIX."  NT was the result.  It was
pure UNIX underneathe and highly abstracted.  There were to be no hacks
at all, a pure microkernel OS that abstrated everything.  And it is
abysmally slow. As for NT not being stable, it was done blindly.  As for
NT being slow, when you indirect the living daylights out of everything,
what you get is a VERY long pathlength.  Basically, all of UNIX was
replicated by Microsoft programmers under one brilliant architect in two
years time, including X and all drivers.  The problem is that there
aren't enough brilliant people at Microsoft and it has always had
problems writing things from scratch.
 
> When hard drive support was added to PC-DOS, Microsoft incorporated more
> Unix-like commands (albeit with a renegade \ directory delimiter and a /
> switch character), but I've never seen anything suggesting NT (ne-OS/2)
> *was* Unix. 

Ah, they have eyes, but they do not see.  What amazes me, coming here
from the PC world, is how ignorant UNIX types are outside of their own
world.  Gates advertised to the world in the 1983 timeframe that UNIX
was the future, and DOS would migrate into UNIX.  Xenix was Gates name
for his "brand" of unix and it was, much later, sold to SCO.  As for
using \ instead of /, that was a hack left over from 1980, when command
line switches were done with / instead of -.  The point of 86-DOS, which
was and always has been the core of MS-DOS, was to get an OS out the
door for Seattle Computer Products.  Gary Kildal and CP/M-86 weren't
happening, so Seattle Computer Products just went ahead and wrote their
own OS.  And CP/M used == the forward slash for options instead of the
dash.  And so it goes.  DOS from version 2 onward was always supposed to
"become" unix some day.  Gates took a detour with OS/2 and then went
right back to it about 1991 when the limitations of Windows 3 were
obvious and IBM was clearly going to score with their rewrite of OS/2.

>If it is, it begs the question: Why is NT less stable and less
> robust than Unix?

Less stable?  Since when has ANYTHING coming from Microsoft been stable?
It took them 18 tries to get DOS 2.0 stable.  You should look at an NT
4.0 boot screen.  Not only were there 1381 builds to get to NT 4.0,
there are fixpacks on fixpacks on top of that.

You have to have been at Microsoft to know how it works.  And I have
been, albeit consulting for one of their client firms.

The folks at Microsoft, the line programmers, are nice and reasonable
people.  The evil at Microsoft comes from the top down.

Their problem is that in their drive to take over the world, they need a
LOT of programmers and a lot of the rocket scientists won't do what
Microsoft wants, which is take the entire world down the path of
mediocrity and enforced corporate uniformity in every area of everyone's
life in the name of private profit.  So Microsoft mostly makes its
living based on the work of guys who, while they are nice fellows, are
not A players, but mostly B and C players.  And due to size, these guys
are largely unsupervised, non-UNIX types writing some pretty
unmaintainable stuff.

Microsoft panders mediocrity at all levels.  They are after profit and
control, not excellence and liberty.  Their reputation for slow,
bloated, faulty and ugly code is their reward.

Best,

Frank
 
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Greg:

I thank you kindly for your rudeness, and your comparing me to a drunkard
was greatly appreciated, as to the questions you asked, they were all
answered in my email, had you read it thoroughly.

"What are you using as a dialer (pppd doesn't dial)?"

I had stated midway through the email:

>> I was under the impression that the kppp dialer would  >> automatically
add the necessary entries permanently, or at 

to which you replied:

>> Temporarily.

This (in my opinion anyway) implies to me that the kppp dialer was used.

>> "First we need to know what's wrong with your PPP connection.    >> The
routing will take care of itself (hopefully).  Where are >> your config
files?  Have you done the chat script in debug >> mode? Greg"

Now, to recap my entire email to answer the rest of your questions, the
problem with my PPP connection is that i had set it up originally to
conduct PPP activity through a network card, and now i want to have it set
up so that my modem can also use PPP while i'm not on the network. Since i
try to connect using ~*KPPP*~ which automates all of my config files, and
scripts, they don't apply. Now, Kppp dials into my ISP fine, a login prompt
appears on my terminal, i enter my username and password, i get a bunch of
!$~@$%^!#$%#!~%$! type stuff and push "continue". Then, kppp continues with
a little message says "attempting to start pppd" or something along those
lines, and it never connects. I was assuming (i'm no expert) that it was
getting confused having a network card and a modem both configured for the
same IP and same settings all the way around. But, it could be anything. 

Please help me out if you can, and keep in mind, no response at all is
better then a rude one

patrick.



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>Hello
>
>i had 486 and 586 intel PC.  it has fail test when testing y2k program.
>Both i install freebsd, is there Y2k problem?


Maybe with your hardware, but not with FreeBSD itself.

What part of your hardware has a Y2K problem?

Most newer PC's don't have any Y2K problems in the BIOS, but most *do* have
problems with the real-time clock (RTC).

Apparently, we're still using the same real-time clock circuit they had in
Samuel Morse's telegraph machine. (Well, OK, maybe a slight exaggeration,
but I don't think the clock circuit has changed much since they added a
battery so you didn't have to type in the date and time whenever you turned
on your PC.)

The problem I've seen with the RTC is that it operates fine in 2000 and
beyond, but that it can't handle the rollover at midnight on 1 Jan 2000. The
way to solve this particular problem is to turn off the computer before
midnight, then wait until after midnight to turn it back on. At this point
the BIOS will correctly update the RTC and it will continue just fine after
that.

Anyway, FreeBSD itself is Y2K ready. See http://www.freebsd.org/y2kbug.html
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On Saturday,  6 February 1999 at  2:31:56 -0500, Patrick Morris wrote:
>
> Greg:
>
> I thank you kindly for your rudeness, and your comparing me to a drunkard
> was greatly appreciated,

Well, sorry that you took offence, Patrick.  It wasn't meant to be
rude.  It's a classic story of errors in debugging, and in fact it has
nothing to do with drunks.

> as to the questions you asked, they were all answered in my email,
> had you read it thoroughly.

I did.  You're still looking under the lamppost.  But you should
consider, when you come asking for free advice, that you should make
it as easy as possible for the people to help you.

> "What are you using as a dialer (pppd doesn't dial)?"
>
> I had stated midway through the email:
>
>> I was under the impression that the kppp dialer would automatically
>> add the necessary entries permanently, or at
>
> to which you replied:
>
> Temporarily.
>
> This (in my opinion anyway) implies to me that the kppp dialer was used.

You're ignoring what I said.  pppd doesn't dial.  You also haven't
answered my first question: what do you mean by kppp or KPPP?

>> "First we need to know what's wrong with your PPP connection.  The
>> routing will take care of itself (hopefully).  Where are your
>> config files?  Have you done the chat script in debug mode? Greg"
>
> Now, to recap my entire email to answer the rest of your questions, the
> problem with my PPP connection is that i had set it up originally to
> conduct PPP activity through a network card, 

I'm not sure what you mean by this.  Probably not face value, anyway
(you can run PPP over Ethernet, but nobody does it).  Anyway, it
doesn't seem to be the issue.

> and now i want to have it set up so that my modem can also use PPP
> while i'm not on the network. Since i try to connect using ~*KPPP*~
> which automates all of my config files, and scripts, they don't
> apply. Now, Kppp dials into my ISP fine, a login prompt appears on
> my terminal, i enter my username and password, i get a bunch of
> !$~@$%^!#$%#!~%$! type stuff and push "continue".

OK.  I said at the very beginning I wasn't sure what you mean by kppp.
Now we have kppp, KPPP, ~*KPPP*~ and Kppp.  You need to explain what
you are doing.

> Then, kppp continues with a little message says "attempting to start
> pppd" or something along those lines, and it never connects. I was
> assuming (i'm no expert) that it was getting confused having a
> network card and a modem both configured for the same IP and same
> settings all the way around. But, it could be anything.

Right.

> Please help me out if you can, and keep in mind, no response at all is
> better then a rude one

OK.  Answer my questions.

Greg
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>NT is very definitely *not* UNIX, and it's not derived from it.  But
>it passes the specification for UNIX 95%.  That's the point I was
>making.  I don't know where to find that, but you might try snooping
>around the OpenGroup's web pages.


Thanks, I'll check it out...


>No, NT has nothing to do with OS/2.  They gave OS/2 up as a bad job
>(presumably from a marketing point of view) and got a guy in from DEC
>who had been working with a successor to VMS (take the next letter for
>each of the initials and you get WNT :-).


Kind of like 2001: A Space Odyssey -- HAL + 0x10101 = IBM :-)

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On Fri, Feb 05, 1999 at 11:15:42PM -0500, Eric I. Arnoth wrote:
> I'm trying to run a 3Com 3c389D Etherlink III card in a Compaq Presario
> 1610 laptop, running PCCard support.  When I plug in my card, the kernel
> tells me that the card is detected, and it is loading the ep0 driver.
> When I try to do anything, however, I get very disappointing results.
> Ping always has 100% packet loss, yet netstat -r gives a full and detailed
> network table, complete with ethernet addresses.  Traceroute also gives me
> returns, hopping from host to host, but at a return time of 2,000ms.
> Clearly, there is network traffic, but why is it so slow?

Looks like missing interrupts. Check-out the used irq in
/etc/pccard.conf and if the PCMCIA or CardBuss controller is
supported at all (check the boot messages) and can steer the
3c389D's interrupts correctly.

	matthias
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Dan O'Connor wrote:
> >No, NT has nothing to do with OS/2.  They gave OS/2 up as a bad job
> >(presumably from a marketing point of view) and got a guy in from DEC
> >who had been working with a successor to VMS (take the next letter for
> >each of the initials and you get WNT :-).
> 
> Kind of like 2001: A Space Odyssey -- HAL + 0x10101 = IBM :-)

Actually, HAL - 0x010101 = IBM.

VMS + 0x010101 = WNT

As usual, Microsoft used the wrong operations to get their result, a
matter which even now the Justice Department ponders in Federal Court

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        Hello.
        A have some questions:
    1. When i installed 3.0-release, i got XWindow from 2.2.6 CD. End
    and made upgrade, where choosed custom/X/... - only X's with base
    system [bin/man/dict...]. When i pressed install - sysinstall
    reinstalled bin/man/... but it don't tried to install XWindow
    system. Where trouble?

    2. After reconfigurating kernel and adding sound card as
    sbpro[ess688] i have that message when kernel load:

    NOTE! SBPro support required with your sound card!
    Hmm.. could this be an ESS688 [rev 6]
    snd0 Sound Blaster Pro 3.1

    When i tried hear music [splay] mp3/wav - i only hear noise :(
    Help me. Who have this card - write all strings for sound card in
    kernel for ess688.


/Plague
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>Ah, they have eyes, but they do not see.  What amazes me, coming here
>from the PC world, is how ignorant UNIX types are outside of their own
>world.

Well, I also come from the DOS/Windows world, so I'm here to prove that PC
folks can be pretty ignorant, too :-)  I appreciate you're nuts-and-bolts
history of the MS-landscape. There's a lot here that I did not know.


>Less stable?  Since when has ANYTHING coming from Microsoft been stable?


Well, true. The Microsoft y2k database lists Win98 as being y2k compliant.
Lo-and-behold, the Windows Update site now has a y2k patch for Win98.


>The folks at Microsoft, the line programmers, are nice and reasonable
>people.  The evil at Microsoft comes from the top down.


It's too bad the MS higher-ups are so concerned about maintaining sales by
continuously adding new features to their products. They'd probably sell
twice as much software if in the next version they simply optimized what
they already had.



>Microsoft panders mediocrity at all levels.  They are after profit and
>control, not excellence and liberty.  Their reputation for slow,
>bloated, faulty and ugly code is their reward.


This is the sad part. As Dick Cavett once said: "As long as people will
accept crap, it will be financially profitable to dispense it."


--Dan

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Greg Lehey wrote:
> 
> On Friday,  5 February 1999 at 23:00:36 -0800, Dan O'Connor wrote:
> >> Microsoft's "NT" environment is UNIX.
> >
> > A friend of mine was also told this at an IBM point-of-sale system AIX
> > seminar. Do you know of any documentation on this? I can't find anywhere
> > where Microsoft admits to NT be derived from Unix.
> 
> NT is very definitely *not* UNIX, and it's not derived from it.  But
> it passes the specification for UNIX 95%.  That's the point I was
> making.  I don't know where to find that, but you might try snooping
> around the OpenGroup's web pages.

The original team was from DEC and it started out with a VMS feel to it.

If NT had a Posix shell it would come very close to being Unix like. Along
with Windows 16, Windows 32, and DOS, it does have a Posix subsystem with
most of the with the .1 and .2 levels built into it. There was a shell
similar to MKS' Toolkit that reached a beta level. The people that
downloaded it wondered if they were trying for the other points of Posix.
The NT resource kit comes with an extensive set of commands that function
much like FreeBSD at the shell level.

> 
> > When hard drive support was added to PC-DOS, Microsoft incorporated more
> > Unix-like commands (albeit with a renegade \ directory delimiter and a /
> > switch character), but I've never seen anything suggesting NT (ne-OS/2)
> > *was* Unix.
> 
> No, NT has nothing to do with OS/2.  They gave OS/2 up as a bad job
> (presumably from a marketing point of view) and got a guy in from DEC
> who had been working with a successor to VMS (take the next letter for
> each of the initials and you get WNT :-).
> 
> > If it is, it begs the question: Why is NT less stable and less
> > robust than Unix?
> 
> If it isn't, it still begs that question.  Even given the fact that
> Microsoft doesn't have to care, I can't understand it.
> 

I think one of the reasons it isn't that stable right now by comparison is
because of rampant featurism. There are so many things being added that it
doesn't stand a chance. I saw an estimate one time of how many lines of code
are going into Win 2000 but it was so outrageously large that I promptly
forgot it.

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i currently have a pc with NT and freebsd. i have two hard drives, one with
NT and freebsd and one with just freebsd. i ordered the freebsd cdrom set
from walnut creek, which came with everything you need. if you know about
your computer, its real easy to do, and even if you don't know it too well,
its not too tough to get through. when you install freebsd onto your drive,
you have the option of installing "boot easy," which will prompt you
everytime you restart to choose which partition you wish to boot, dos or
freebsd. it works very well. it can see multiple drives, or just multiple
os's on one drive, or both.

it rocks.




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>another 6 gig drive and make it a BSD drive, and be able to switch
>between the two.  Is this possible, and if so, what can I read to help
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>
>Thanks
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Thanks THIS DID IT. I had the same problem as Gustavo with configure,
but now it comes as far as to having a Makefile. Now my only problem is
where the header file jpeglib.h is?

On Fri, Feb 05, 1999 at 07:06:52PM -0800, Steve Emmert wrote:
> 
> I had to configure libPropList with --prefix-/usr/X11R6
> not the default /usr/local. This allowed the new WindowMaker
> to configure properly.  why this worked, I don't know.
> Then when PropList 0.83.0 came out in the ports, I deleted the libs
> in /usr/X11R6/lib/ and installed the port. I also configured
> WindowMaker with --prefix-/usr/X11R6 (The existing port installs
> it there also). You should uninstall the libs in /usr/local/lib
> before you reinstall them in /usr/X11R6/lib/. Use ldconfig -r to 
> check on your libraries.
>  
> On Sat, 6 Feb 1999, Gustavo Vieira G C Rios wrote:
> 
> > Is there any one smart enough here that got WindowMaker working without
> > using the ports ?
> > i am trying to buil it, but without success !!!!
> > when i configure (./configure) my windowmaker it returns me that i don't
> > have libPropList installed (that's not true, i just installed it)!
> > How to get it running ?
> 
> Steve
> 
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Hi..

im having troubles with my freebsd system (ver 2.2.2) acting as a gateway
for my lan the trouble i think lies in my ppp.* setups i can get a
connection to my isp but once im connect i cant get any data flow at all
not even from the console 
this system has a totaly dynimic ip setup hence no ips are set they are to
be probed out by the system
any help would be much appricated 


also im running a mini dns server (for the lan) and when i go to connect
(vi telnet or any port) over the lan to it, it will wait for up to 3-5
minutes then prompt the login then once the login has been done it will
wait again for a few minutes and then bring u to the command prompt (in a
telnet case) as soon as i disable the dns in rc.conf the waiting is not
longer a problem proving this is dns related is there any rason why this
waiting occours and how could it be resolved i know it has to look it up
but this time seems a tad to long and there is very little machine load 
 

here are a copy of the ppp.conf and ppp.linkup files

any help would be very much appricated

thanks

Alex


############################################################
# PPP Configuration File ('/etc/ppp/ppp.conf')
#
# Default settings; These are always executed always when PPP
# is invoked and apply to all system configurations.
############################################################
default:                                                          
 set device /dev/cuaa1                                            
 set speed 115200                                                 
 disable pred1                                                    
 deny pred1                                                       
 disable lqr                                                      
 deny lqr                                                         
 set dial "ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 \"\" ATZ OK-ATZ-OK
ATDT\\T TIMEOUT 60 CONNECT"
 set redial 1.1 100                                               
 set reconnect 1 100                                              
#                                                                 
#                                                                 
############################################################      
#
# Invoke with "ppp interactive"
#
############################################################
interactive:
 set authname ppp
 set authkey ppp
 set phone 12345678
 set timeout 72000
 set openmode active
 accept chap
#
#
############################################################
#
# Invoke with: "ppp -auto demand"
#
# Also "/etc/start_if.tun0" is setup to invoke ppp -auto demand On boot
#
############################################################
demand:
 set authname ppp
 set authkey ppp
 set phone 12345678
 set timeout 72000
 set openmode active
 accept chap
 set ifaddr 127.1.1.1/0 127.2.2.2/0 255.255.255.0
 add 0 0 127.2.2.2
 ############################################################


============================================================================


#########################################################################
# PPP Link Up File ('/etc/ppp/ppp.linkup')
#
#  This file is checked after PPP establishes a network connection.
#
#  This file is searched in the following order.
#
#  1) First, the IP address assigned to us is searched and
#     the associated command(s) are executed.
#
#  2) If the IP Address is not found, then the label name specified at
#     PPP startup time is searched and the associated command(s)
#     are executed.
#
#  3) If neither of the above are found then commands under the label
#     'MYADDR:' are executed.
#
#########################################################################
#
# This section is used for the "demand" configuration in
#   /etc/ppp/ppp.conf:
demand:
 delete ALL
 add 0 0 HISADDR
#
# All other configurations in /etc/ppp/ppp.conf use this:
#
MYADDR:
 add 0 0 HISADDR
######################################################################




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On Sat, 6 Feb 1999, Dan O'Connor wrote:

> Well, true. The Microsoft y2k database lists Win98 as being y2k compliant.
> Lo-and-behold, the Windows Update site now has a y2k patch for Win98.

Solaris 2.6 is the same...listed as being y2k compliant, but there are
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After a `make world' to update from 3.0-release to 3.0-stable I get the
following failure when I try to build a new kernel:-

loading kernel
syscons.o: In function `scvidprobe':
syscons.o(.text+0x231): undefined reference to `vid_configure'
syscons.o(.text+0x24e): undefined reference to `vid_allocate'
syscons.o(.text+0x26b): undefined reference to `vid_get_adapter'
syscons.o: In function `sckbdprobe':
syscons.o(.text+0x29a): undefined reference to `kbd_configure'
syscons.o(.text+0x2be): undefined reference to `kbd_allocate'
syscons.o(.text+0x2db): undefined reference to `kbd_get_keyboard'
syscons.o: In function `sc_attach_unit':
syscons.o(.text+0x3a2): undefined reference to `kbdsw'
syscons.o: In function `scopen':
syscons.o(.text+0x5c2): undefined reference to `kbdsw'
syscons.o: In function `sckbdevent':
syscons.o(.text+0x82d): undefined reference to `kbd_release'
syscons.o(.text+0x8eb): undefined reference to `kbdsw'
syscons.o: In function `scioctl':
syscons.o(.text+0x1dd5): undefined reference to `kbdsw'
syscons.o(.text+0x1e43): undefined reference to `kbdsw'
syscons.o(.text+0x1e82): undefined reference to `kbdsw'
syscons.o(.text+0x1f56): undefined reference to `kbdsw'
syscons.o(.text+0x1fee): undefined reference to `kbd_get_keyboard'
syscons.o(.text+0x2029): undefined reference to `kbd_allocate'
syscons.o(.text+0x2056): undefined reference to `kbd_release'
syscons.o(.text+0x205f): undefined reference to `kbd_get_keyboard'
syscons.o(.text+0x207c): undefined reference to `kbdsw'
syscons.o(.text+0x20ee): undefined reference to `kbd_release'
syscons.o(.text+0x216e): undefined reference to `kbdsw'
syscons.o: In function `sccngetch':
syscons.o(.text+0x2719): undefined reference to `kbdsw'
syscons.o(.text+0x274a): undefined reference to `kbdsw'
syscons.o(.text+0x2798): undefined reference to `kbdsw'
syscons.o(.text+0x27bf): undefined reference to `kbdsw'
syscons.o: In function `scrn_timer':
syscons.o(.text+0x295d): undefined reference to `kbd_allocate'
syscons.o(.text+0x296f): undefined reference to `kbd_get_keyboard'
syscons.o(.text+0x2985): undefined reference to `kbdsw'
syscons.o: In function `exchange_scr':
syscons.o(.text+0x2efb): undefined reference to `vidsw'
syscons.o(.text+0x2f4c): undefined reference to `kbdsw'
syscons.o: In function `scinit':
syscons.o(.text+0x4593): undefined reference to `vid_get_adapter'
syscons.o(.text+0x45a0): undefined reference to `vidsw'
syscons.o(.text+0x45bc): undefined reference to `vidsw'
syscons.o(.text+0x477d): undefined reference to `vidsw'
syscons.o(.text+0x479c): undefined reference to `vidsw'
syscons.o: In function `init_scp':
syscons.o(.text+0x4a74): undefined reference to `vid_get_adapter'
syscons.o(.text+0x4a80): undefined reference to `vidsw'
syscons.o: In function `scgetc':
syscons.o(.text+0x4e4a): undefined reference to `kbdsw'
syscons.o(.text+0x5438): undefined reference to `kbdsw'
syscons.o: In function `scmmap':
syscons.o(.text+0x5623): undefined reference to `vidsw'
syscons.o: In function `save_kbd_state':
syscons.o(.text+0x56c5): undefined reference to `kbdsw'
syscons.o: In function `update_kbd_state':
syscons.o(.text+0x5729): undefined reference to `kbdsw'
syscons.o(.text+0x5780): undefined reference to `kbdsw'
syscons.o: In function `update_kbd_leds':
syscons.o(.text+0x57ca): undefined reference to `kbdsw'
syscons.o: In function `set_mode':
syscons.o(.text+0x5805): undefined reference to `vidsw'
syscons.o(.text+0x583f): undefined reference to `vidsw'
syscons.o(.text+0x58ca): undefined reference to `vidsw'
syscons.o(.text+0x5927): undefined reference to `vidsw'
syscons.o: In function `set_border':
syscons.o(.text+0x5957): undefined reference to `vidsw'
syscons.o(.text+0x5a98): more undefined references to `vidsw' follow
*** Error code 1

Stop.

So, the question is, what did I do wrong or can someone explain how to
cure this, please.

Neil.

 
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Hello,

Already twice this week I've received this
cron error.

The isrunning-job script checks if some
vital processes are running (using ps, et al.)
and if not, send a page.

This is the error:

Subject: Cron <root@xxx> /opt/sbin/isrunning-job

ps: kvm_getprocs: Cannot allocate memory


This results in the check failing and me
receiving a false warning...

Anyone?

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Neil Groeber wrote:
> 
> After a `make world' to update from 3.0-release to 3.0-stable I get the
> following failure when I try to build a new kernel:-

I'll take for granted that you read the UPDATING file in /usr/src
and modified your kernel configuration file appropriately... oh,
what the heck, I won't. Have you read the UPDATING file and modified
your kernel configuration file appropriately?

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Greg Lehey wrote:
> 
> OK.  I said at the very beginning I wasn't sure what you mean by kppp.
> Now we have kppp, KPPP, ~*KPPP*~ and Kppp.  You need to explain what
> you are doing.
> 

PMJI Greg, but "kppp" is KDE's GUI front end dialler (kind of like M$
Dial Up Networking thing) that uses the kernel pppd rather than Brian's
user ppp. It's just confusing that the names for everything in KDE start
with "k", which in this case make it look like an abbreviation for
"kernel ppp".

HTH

BTW, liked the joke about the drunk, never heard it before, must be an
Aussie joke I guess ;-)

> OK.  Answer my questions.
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Dan O'Connor wrote:
> 
> This is the sad part. As Dick Cavett once said: "As long as people will
> accept crap, it will be financially profitable to dispense it."
> 
> --Dan
> 
> Beware the lollipop of mediocrity. Lick once and you suck forever.
>                                                 --Anonymous
> 

and how about, "Well-marketed mediocrity will triumph over technical
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Hi

I have a box here running FreeBSD 2.2.1, how y2k compliant is it?
(Is it worth upgrading? It's a box with many users on it, and even our
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Hi,

I just setup Samba and shared some directories on one of my boxes. Shortly
I'll be adding Primary Domain master to the job assignment. I prefer to
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Greetings,
I have an Aironet IC2200 ISA wireless LAN card which I was told
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e derived from Unix.
> 
> NT is very definitely *not* UNIX, and it's not derived from it.  But
> it passes the specification for UNIX 95%.  That's the point I was
> making.  I don't know where to find that, but you might try snooping
> around the OpenGroup's web pages.
> 

It was not NT, but OpenNT --  NT + new posix subsystem.

look at http://www.opennt.com for details (sorry, I have no
time to check this URL, so it can be incorrect).

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Is there any URL that can help me do that ?
Please, give me some tips?

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On Sat, 6 Feb 1999, Greg Lehey wrote:

>   UNIX is a trade mark of AT&T.  Oh, no, they sold it to Univel.
>   Wait, Univel became part of Novell.  Hmm, Novell sold the product to
>   SCO.  Ah, but SCO gave the name to the Open Group.

Actually, Novell gave the name to the Open Group - in order to settle
the longrunning litigation with Berkeley.  They released two versions
of `UnixWare' which was the renamed ATT src.  ATT/USL never cleaned up
the kernel src before selling to Novell.  Novell was unable to clean
it up and kernel panicks on shutdown were a feature...due to this and
other screwups Novell basically gave UnixWare to SCO.  SCO believed,
erroneously, that UnixWare would become their flagship product.  IT
did not - and so OpenServer was not dropped as originally planned.
(Reminds one of SunOS v. Solaris ;-)

UnixWare is now the `enterprise' solution offered by SCO while OpenServer
is for mid-sized businesses.  I expect it will remain unpopular even 
though SCO has signed an agreement (not a letter of intent) with IBM
to have big blue ship UnixWare with their enterprise boxes.

The original Unix is now a bonafide white elephant.  I've been running
it since UnixWare 1.

I now run 2.1.2 and 7.  Neither one is even close to FreeBSD in terms
of stability and functionality.  In fact my Slackware boxes are also
*much* more reliable than SCO.  So much for Unix v. Unix-Like.  ;-)

My shop is looking to migrate from unix to unix-like on our remaining
`unix' boxes.
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Hey.

It looks like the handling of shared libraries with the Apache 1.3.4
build is broken under 4.0-CURRENT.

When you try and run Apache, it complains about loading the various
DSO's :

5=[root@chain] ~# apachectl start
Syntax error on line 202 of /usr/local/etc/apache/httpd.conf:
Cannot load /usr/local/libexec/apache/mod_mime_magic.so into server: /usr/local/libexec/apache/mod_mime_magic.so: Undefined symbol "ap_make_sub_pool"
/usr/local/sbin/apachectl start: httpd could not be started

Could someone confirm this ?

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Ruslan Shevchenko wrote:
> 
> It was not NT, but OpenNT --  NT + new posix subsystem.
> 
> look at http://www.opennt.com for details (sorry, I have no
> time to check this URL, so it can be incorrect).
> 

I've just tried to take a look. It's a valid URL, but guess what? I got
a message "No response. The server may be down.....". :-)

Now what were we saying about NT and stability?


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On 06-Feb-99 hometeam wrote:
> 
> Why is all the Windows managers requesting xpm.4 when xpm is 3.4?
> 
> ports from stable 3.0 I have 3.4

[asmodai@daemon] (265) $ ldconfig -r | grep Xpm
        59:-lXpm.4 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXpm.so.4

Please do the same on your system

also give me the following:

[ ll = ls -alsoF ]

[asmodai@daemon] (266) $ ll /usr/X11R6/lib/*Xpm*
 76 -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  - 76832 Jan  1 16:05 /usr/X11R6/lib/libXpm.a
  0 lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  -    11 Jan  1 16:05
/usr/X11R6/lib/libXpm.so@ -> libXpm.so.4
 57 -rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  - 57472 Jan  1 16:05
/usr/X11R6/lib/libXpm.so.4*

I just want to verify something. 

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Sorry, I really don't want to offend anybody, however I worked at DEC
West right after Cutter left for M$ with NT. Cutter was the one who
headed up the NT developement, and he was most definitely a VMS guy. In
fact he rather disliked UNIX and saw it as the down fall of DEC. At DEC
he was noted for this attitude. He was also the developer of the
Mini-Vax. At the time DEC was moving from Ultrix, which BTW was based on
BSD 4.2, to OSF/1, within DEC anything but UNIX was politically correct.
There had been a battle between OSF/1 and NT at least in Cutter's mind,
and NT lost. So Cutter took NT and went to M$, So the story goes. Right
after that a project was started at DEC, for M$, to port NT to the new
Alpha chip. This BTW was not a very popular project at DEC in fact the
engineers on the project disliked NT immensely and they were VMS guys.
This all took place in ~1990 and ~1991. In the end Ultrix (UNIX)
survived and DEC didn't. As to the question, what is UNIX, NT is not
UNIX it's NT developed in the tradition of VMS and M$. And for those of
you that have worked with VMS you know that it is very different then
UNIX. As one who has worked on UNIX sense 1981 and computer sense 1972
and saw BSD 4.2 replace 4.1 (what a wonderful event) I have listed to
all the old religious wars between System V and BSD. I don't care who
owns the name UNIX. FreeBSD is UNIX in the tradition of BSD, that BTW
includes NetBSD, BSDI and OpenBSD, everything else is UNIX-like. I say
this because the System V tradition has been lost. It was lost when Bell
Labs give up UNIX. Ok I'm a BSD bigot, so shot me. But I am also a UNIX
bigot. BTW I live in Redmond, WA in the same neighberhood as the NT
developers. Maybe I should inview some of them and put it on my Web
site.

Please take no offence I say all this with my tongue firmly planted in
my cheek.

Don 8)


Frank Warren wrote:
> 
> Dan O'Connor wrote:
> 
> You're both right and wrong, from someone who has been around DOS since
> before there was a Microsoft involved with it.
> 
> >
> > > Microsoft's "NT" environment is UNIX.
> >
> > A friend of mine was also told this at an IBM point-of-sale system AIX
> > seminar. Do you know of any documentation on this? I can't find anywhere
> > where Microsoft admits to NT be derived from Unix.
> 
> NT was cloned from UNIX the same way that LINUX was -- only commercially
> instead of under the GNU Public Virus.  What Microsoft did was hire
> DEC's top UNIX OS developer (sorry, forgot his name) who swore that he
> was going to write "The world's best UNIX."  NT was the result.  It was
> pure UNIX underneathe and highly abstracted.  There were to be no hacks
> at all, a pure microkernel OS that abstrated everything.  And it is
> abysmally slow. As for NT not being stable, it was done blindly.  As for
> NT being slow, when you indirect the living daylights out of everything,
> what you get is a VERY long pathlength.  Basically, all of UNIX was
> replicated by Microsoft programmers under one brilliant architect in two
> years time, including X and all drivers.  The problem is that there
> aren't enough brilliant people at Microsoft and it has always had
> problems writing things from scratch.
> 
> > When hard drive support was added to PC-DOS, Microsoft incorporated more
> > Unix-like commands (albeit with a renegade \ directory delimiter and a /
> > switch character), but I've never seen anything suggesting NT (ne-OS/2)
> > *was* Unix.
> 
> Ah, they have eyes, but they do not see.  What amazes me, coming here
> from the PC world, is how ignorant UNIX types are outside of their own
> world.  Gates advertised to the world in the 1983 timeframe that UNIX
> was the future, and DOS would migrate into UNIX.  Xenix was Gates name
> for his "brand" of unix and it was, much later, sold to SCO.  As for
> using \ instead of /, that was a hack left over from 1980, when command
> line switches were done with / instead of -.  The point of 86-DOS, which
> was and always has been the core of MS-DOS, was to get an OS out the
> door for Seattle Computer Products.  Gary Kildal and CP/M-86 weren't
> happening, so Seattle Computer Products just went ahead and wrote their
> own OS.  And CP/M used == the forward slash for options instead of the
> dash.  And so it goes.  DOS from version 2 onward was always supposed to
> "become" unix some day.  Gates took a detour with OS/2 and then went
> right back to it about 1991 when the limitations of Windows 3 were
> obvious and IBM was clearly going to score with their rewrite of OS/2.
> 
> >If it is, it begs the question: Why is NT less stable and less
> > robust than Unix?
> 
> Less stable?  Since when has ANYTHING coming from Microsoft been stable?
> It took them 18 tries to get DOS 2.0 stable.  You should look at an NT
> 4.0 boot screen.  Not only were there 1381 builds to get to NT 4.0,
> there are fixpacks on fixpacks on top of that.
> 
> You have to have been at Microsoft to know how it works.  And I have
> been, albeit consulting for one of their client firms.
> 
> The folks at Microsoft, the line programmers, are nice and reasonable
> people.  The evil at Microsoft comes from the top down.
> 
> Their problem is that in their drive to take over the world, they need a
> LOT of programmers and a lot of the rocket scientists won't do what
> Microsoft wants, which is take the entire world down the path of
> mediocrity and enforced corporate uniformity in every area of everyone's
> life in the name of private profit.  So Microsoft mostly makes its
> living based on the work of guys who, while they are nice fellows, are
> not A players, but mostly B and C players.  And due to size, these guys
> are largely unsupervised, non-UNIX types writing some pretty
> unmaintainable stuff.
> 
> Microsoft panders mediocrity at all levels.  They are after profit and
> control, not excellence and liberty.  Their reputation for slow,
> bloated, faulty and ugly code is their reward.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Frank
> 
> > --Dan
> --
> Disclaimer: Any resemblance between the above views and those of my
> employer are purely coincidental.  I'm not sure what my employer's views
> are, exactly, except that they improve on a day when the stock is doing
> well.
> 
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Laurens,

On 06-Feb-99 laurens van alphen wrote:

> The isrunning-job script checks if some
> vital processes are running (using ps, et al.)
> and if not, send a page.
> 
> This is the error:
> 
> Subject: Cron <root@xxx> /opt/sbin/isrunning-job
> 
> ps: kvm_getprocs: Cannot allocate memory

Care to paste a uname -a?

Because this reeks of cvsup and make world and would imply that ye manually
go to ps directory in /usr/src and make && make install it.

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On 06-Feb-99 Daniel C. Sobral wrote:
> Neil Groeber wrote:
>> 
>> After a `make world' to update from 3.0-release to 3.0-stable I get the
>> following failure when I try to build a new kernel:-
> 
> I'll take for granted that you read the UPDATING file in /usr/src
> and modified your kernel configuration file appropriately... oh,
> what the heck, I won't. Have you read the UPDATING file and modified
> your kernel configuration file appropriately?

Also, one might care to compare the kernel file against LINT and GENERIC
again from time to time...

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On 06-Feb-99 David Richardson wrote:

> Is there a kernel option to support ISDN T/A? It is an external T/A, 
> shouldn't it behave like a normal modem? Do I need to go to 2.2.8 or 3.0?

Been using my external T/A annex `ISDN-modem' ever since 2.2.7/8 up 'till
CURRENT with ppp and never had problems.

Mine is a Trust Communicator.

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On 06-Feb-99 Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:
> Does anybody know how to configure the NT Boot loader to boot FreeBSD
> 3.0-STABLE which is using the new boot blocks?  I have tried (many times)
> using the boot sector of the secondary master (where FreeBSD resides) to
> no
> avail.  I have tried:

try www.winimage.com  it has this utility to make multibooting under NT
very easy. (it's free btw)

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On 06-Feb-99 Jesse wrote:

> I just setup Samba and shared some directories on one of my boxes.
> Shortly
> I'll be adding Primary Domain master to the job assignment. I prefer to
> deny all packets by default, so I'm wondering if anyone knows what rules
> are needed to allow Samba to operate properly. Chances are someone has
> done this before and I don't need to reinvent the wheel.

Samba uses the SMB protocol. If memory serves me right ye will need to
allow NetBIOS.

Also, see www.samba.org, they're bound to have some specs up about the
protocol and portnumbers.

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I think it's sad that almost every PC magazine (including the whole ZD Net
set of 
magazines) is so focused on Linux.  It's not that I think Linux isn't good
enough, but 
it's as though FreeBSD...or any free UNIX version for that matter...doesn't
exist in 
their eyes.  I think this is very crucial area of PR that should be
addressed.  I did 
quite a bit of research before I decided to start with FreeBSD instead of
Linux.  
One of the things I like about FreeBSD is it's organization.  An solid
example of this 
is how distribution is done of new releases--very well organized in my
eyes.  I keep 
reading about "corporate America " not wanting to deploy Linux (again, almost 
NO mention of FreeBSD), but scared about the lack of technical support.  Of 
course, there are companies like Red Hat, blah blah blah...

Anyway, as a (new) user on the outside looking in, who honestly believes that
quite a few corporate heads could be turned to FreeBSD, if only they won't so
ignorant...i.e.. they just don't know.  I do my part (and have been) of
doing some
PR for FreeBSD.  I guess all that's left (on my end) is getting damn good
at FreeBSD,
and asking management to deploy it internally, wherever I work, and
possibly end
up doing consulting with FreeBSD FTP machines and servers, and so forth,
but anyway.
I just wanted to say that...and I've been meaning to say that.  I apologize
to those at
the PR camp for FreeBSD, but I really feel FreeBSD's potential is being
hidden, and 
right now it's only an "unsung hero"...*sigh*

PS - I also hate reading that Linux is Unix! AGH! As Homer Simpson would
say, "
	NO!...no no no no no...", again another reason I chose FreeBSD was b/c
	it (originally) started with AT&T Unix code...anyway...


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On 06-Feb-99 Gustavo Vieira G C Rios wrote:
> To install WindowMaker 0.51.0 i need LibPropList.
> I got PropList 0.8.3 version and i installed it as told in INSTALL file
> guide:
> ./configure && make && make isntall

The problem is, when knowing where to look and what to fix, very easy.

libPropList doesn't adhere to ELF naming conventions at install.

It will install this:

/usr/local/lib/libPropList.a   
/usr/local/lib/libPropList.la          
/usr/local/lib/libPropList.so.1.1
/usr/local/lib/libPropList.so

But fails to make libPropList.so.1

simply do: 

cd /usr/local/lib
ln -s libPropList.so.1.1 libPropList.so.1

that oughtta fix the problem, after the hints file gets updated with
ldconfig. Ye might want to verify with ldconfig -r to see if it appears.

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Gunnar,

On 06-Feb-99 Gunnar Flygt wrote:
> Thanks THIS DID IT. I had the same problem as Gustavo with configure,
> but now it comes as far as to having a Makefile. Now my only problem is
> where the header file jpeglib.h is?

cd /usr/ports/graphics/jpeg

make && make install

That will build the jpeg library and place jpeglib.h in /usr/local/include

That oughtta do it =)

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On 06-Feb-99 charon@freethought.org wrote:
> At 12:25 AM 2/6/99 -0200, Gustavo Vieira G C Rios wrote:
>>Is there any one smart enough here that got WindowMaker working without
>>using the ports ?
> 
> Why not use the ports?  It's a great resource, and I'd _love_ to use the
> ports to install WindowMaker if I could figure out how to upgrade to
> 3.0-STABLE so I could use png-1.0.3 instead of png-1.0.2, which doesn't
> work with windowmaker... but that's my own little problem  :)

Why not get the ports upgrade kit and upgrade the ports directory using
cvsup? This will allow you to keep up to date on the ports and benefit from
new additions.

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The magazines would love to publish more articles on FreeBSD - I get
asked about writing articles from the various editors all the time.

Unfortunately, almost each and every time someone like yourself is
asked to actually write an article to deal with this shortcoming in
FreeBSD's PR picture, they usually quickly deflate, citing a lack of
writing skill, time, ideas for a topic, or whatever, and the end
result is that nothing tangible comes out of it and the problem goes
right on being a problem. :-(

- Jordan

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Frank Warren <clovis@home.com> writes:
> Dan O'Connor wrote:
> > Kind of like 2001: A Space Odyssey -- HAL + 0x10101 = IBM :-)
> Actually, HAL - 0x010101 = IBM.

Umm, no. Maybe you should take a trip back to K-12 :)

DES
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Hello

recently i found that i rcvd mail slowly.  my friend pointed about that
it is a 'relay'
problem.  What is the meaning of 'relay'?  how do i figure out that?

Thank you
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On 06-Feb-99 Wile Coyote wrote:
> How can a postscript document be printed to a normal printer from the 
> console?
> I don't have X, but I do have a few postscript documents I wouldn't mind 
> reading...

try Ghostscript from the ports?

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On 05-Feb-99 Peter P. wrote:

> Here's my problem, I got the boot floppy, starts ok. I partiton my drive,
> ok. The it comes to finding the source where to install from. I select
> cdrom, but all i get is an detect error. 
> 
> Now I'm trying to pass some options at the boot: prompt, but not sure
> what
> I'm supposed to type. I tried the following:
> 
> 1:wdc(0,a)-C
> 1:wd(2,a) -C
> 1:mcd(0,a)
> 
> I get
> 
> Can't find <the above tries>
> 
> The cdrom is a generic ATAPI drive (Linux had it as CDR-S1G). 

Tried swithing it around on the IDE busses? I know of some reported bug
with bus #2 having problem when using the CD-ROM. So ye might want to hook
it into slave mode on Bus #1.

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On 05-Feb-99 ALAN L. CLARKE wrote:
> I currently have a pc with NT as the only OS. I would like install
> another 6 gig drive and make it a BSD drive, and be able to switch
> between the two.  Is this possible, and if so, what can I read to help
> me accomplish this task?

Or get BootPart from http://www.winimage.com/bootpart.htm to set up the
multibooting from NT Loader.

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One might want to turn off MIME when it's not necessary.

Please send yer email again using plaintext please.

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Hello Nicole,

On 06-Feb-99 Nicole Harrington wrote:
>  I need to upgrade my systems to 3.0 and P.E. gave me a free upgrade to
> their new Gnic2 which supposedly had a 3.X driver only to find it does
> not work. I would guess becouse of all the recent changes in 3.0. They
> keep promising a driver, but I really need one NOW.

Hmmm, there were a bunch of changes towards 3.x, but the only problem areas
could lie in the VM stuff and reorganisation of the sources. Shouldn't be
that hard I guess...
 
>  My question: does anyone else know of a Gigabit Ethernet Card with
> drivers that work on 3.0, or would anyone be interested in writing a
> driver? (requiring an NDA with P.E)

No sorry, I do not. Ye might want to ask around in -hardware?

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Hello

how to classify 'System V or 'BSD'

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Kevin Weiss wrote:
> 
> I think it's sad that almost every PC magazine (including the whole ZD Net
> set of
> magazines) is so focused on Linux.  It's not that I think Linux isn't good
> enough, but
> it's as though FreeBSD...or any free UNIX version for that matter...doesn't
> exist in
> their eyes.  I think this is very crucial area of PR that should be
> addressed.  I did
> quite a bit of research before I decided to start with FreeBSD instead of
> Linux.

Don't lose heart. Not too long ago they didn't know that Linux existed,
they'll come around. There always slow.

> One of the things I like about FreeBSD is it's organization.  An solid
> example of this
> is how distribution is done of new releases--very well organized in my
> eyes.  I keep
> reading about "corporate America " not wanting to deploy Linux (again, almost
> NO mention of FreeBSD), but scared about the lack of technical support.  Of
> course, there are companies like Red Hat, blah blah blah...

I recently read four articles in the trades that all said that
"corporate America" was opening up to "open systems" (a code word for
Linux and free software) and was rethinking the question of support.
They sited the fact that HP and Oracle were supporting Linux. And That
many company thought that buying third party support gave them more
flixibility.
So hang it there we'll get there yet. Remember that once there open to
"open systems" they will start looking around at all the systems and of
course FreeBSD will win. But your right we all need to do your part to
promote FreeBSD.

Don 8)

> 
> Anyway, as a (new) user on the outside looking in, who honestly believes that
> quite a few corporate heads could be turned to FreeBSD, if only they won't so
> ignorant...i.e.. they just don't know.  I do my part (and have been) of
> doing some
> PR for FreeBSD.  I guess all that's left (on my end) is getting damn good
> at FreeBSD,
> and asking management to deploy it internally, wherever I work, and
> possibly end
> up doing consulting with FreeBSD FTP machines and servers, and so forth,
> but anyway.
> I just wanted to say that...and I've been meaning to say that.  I apologize
> to those at
> the PR camp for FreeBSD, but I really feel FreeBSD's potential is being
> hidden, and
> right now it's only an "unsung hero"...*sigh*
> 
> PS - I also hate reading that Linux is Unix! AGH! As Homer Simpson would
> say, "
>         NO!...no no no no no...", again another reason I chose FreeBSD was b/c
>         it (originally) started with AT&T Unix code...anyway...
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On 06-Feb-99 kok wrote:
> how to classify 'System V or 'BSD'

Most of the differences lie in administration as well as the technical
background.

The initialisation of programs and daemons are using different mechanisms
on SysV and BSD.

Some Signals are defined differently or there are more defined on one
platform than the other.

The best way to see differences though is to compare the two by actually
using them. Linux is more SysV orientated while FreeBSD is ehm, well, BSD ;)

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On 06-Feb-99 Gustavo Vieira G C Rios wrote:
> Is there any URL that can help me do that ?
> Please, give me some tips?

www.freebsd.org > mailinglist > search > current & stable

query words: upgrade 2.2 3.0
sort by date

that might be a start. (sorry for not being able to provide better help,
but I have been CURRENT all the way)

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Hi Gary!

Try "man hier"

Although I wouldn't try to draw to many comparisons between windows and
FreeBSD, you'll find the differences quite significant.

Generally, the configuration files that you would expect to find in
c:\windows or c:\ are now in /etc or /usr/local/etc

And program files are in /bin, /sbin or /usr/local/bin

Hope this helps!!

Gary Eggerton wrote:
> 
> Can someone point me to a document or provide some info on the directory
> structure of UNIX/FreeBSD please.
> 
> I want to know where you are supposed to put things in comparison to say
> Windows where Windows is typically stored in c:\windows and all your progs
> are in c:\program files etc..

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Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:
> 
> The magazines would love to publish more articles on FreeBSD - I get
> asked about writing articles from the various editors all the time.
> 
> Unfortunately, almost each and every time someone like yourself is
> asked to actually write an article to deal with this shortcoming in
> FreeBSD's PR picture, they usually quickly deflate, citing a lack of
> writing skill, time, ideas for a topic, or whatever, and the end
> result is that nothing tangible comes out of it and the problem goes
> right on being a problem. :-(
> 
> - Jordan
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Well am not a writer to quote you I have "a lack of writing skill"
however I have some time on my hands and I can get help on writting from
feinds and software. I've been running FreeBSD sense 1994 and writting
software for 30 year and for UNIX for 18. I have a passion for my craft
and lots to say. How can I help.

Don 8)

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Hi there,

I am just wondering if there is info about the process state.  I am
doing a school project which my focus is on how FreeBSD is dealing with
the process scheduling and context switching as well as the priority
schema.  I was trying to use the search engine on the net in the
official site, but I could only find very limited information. Could you
direct me how I could obtain relavant information?

Thanks,

Raymond Xie


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Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote:
> 
> Also, one might care to compare the kernel file against LINT and GENERIC
> again from time to time...
> 
> Sound advice.

You are right. I always keep an eye on GENERIC and LINT, and if they
change, I check out what changed.

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I think they've changed their name to Interix or something like that.

I'm sure they were tired of the Ninja-Attack-Lawyers going after them for
putting "NT" in their company name.

I ran OpenNT for about one day. It is the only piece of software I've ever
run under NT that can so thoroughly wedge a system.

It feels really wrong to slap a *POSIX-Adapter* on top of the dubious NT
*kernel* and think of it as UNIX. I think the ROSS sparcplug aproach is
the best.

On an unrelated note, I see a mention that the new Linux kernel may
feature support for a graphical console. (aka without X)

I'd love to see a *BSD based OS with a tightly bound graphical interface,
that doesn't carry the *X* baggage.

If it doesn't happen, has anyone out there taken a good look into "Be"?
I'm hoping its not just a matter of a disgruntled ex-Apple employee taking
the MAC braindamage into the streets.

[RC]

On Sat, 6 Feb 1999, Mark Ovens wrote:

> Ruslan Shevchenko wrote:
> > 
> > It was not NT, but OpenNT --  NT + new posix subsystem.
> > 
> > look at http://www.opennt.com for details (sorry, I have no
> > time to check this URL, so it can be incorrect).
> > 
> 
> I've just tried to take a look. It's a valid URL, but guess what? I got
> a message "No response. The server may be down.....". :-)
> 
> Now what were we saying about NT and stability?
> 
> 
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I in fact did that but didnot get enough information about how to
upgrade /etc. What files are important so I have to copy from the
/usr/src/etc? What old files can be kept?  Do I need to upgrade X, or
recomplie X?

Thanks,

--Xiaowei


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> On 06-Feb-99 Gustavo Vieira G C Rios wrote:
> > Is there any URL that can help me do that ?
> > Please, give me some tips?
> 
> www.freebsd.org > mailinglist > search > current & stable
> 
> query words: upgrade 2.2 3.0
> sort by date
> 
> that might be a start. (sorry for not being able to provide better help,
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Can someone clarify a point for me about sending patches with a PR? I'm
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I've made a small enhancement to csh(1) and want to submit it. Reading
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"Aaron D. Gifford" wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I just got sound somewhat working in my 3.0-STABLE kernel (SoundBlaster
> AWE64 card), installed the amp port from (/usr/ports/audio/amp), then tried
> it out:
> 

[snip]

> % cat test.out > /dev/audio
> 
> I hear SCREETCHing sound for about a second, then nothing for about 10
> seconds, then I see:
> 
> cat: stdout: Input/output error
> 
> Here's a cat of /dev/sndstat:
> # cat /dev/sndstat
> 

Have you tried using the pcm driver instead of Voxware? I had exactly
these symptoms with my OPL3 based card, but it works fine now using pcm

HTH


> VoxWare Sound Driver:3.5-alpha15-970902 (Wed Aug  6 22:58:35 PDT 1997
> Amancio Hasty@rah.star-gate.com)
> Config options:
> 
> Installed drivers:
> Type 1: OPL-2/OPL-3 FM
> Type 2: SoundBlaster
> Type 6: SoundBlaster16
> Type 25: AWE32 Synth
> Type 7: SB16 MIDI
> 
> Card config:
> SoundBlaster at 0x220 irq 10 drq 1
> SoundBlaster16 at 0xffffffff irq 1 drq 5
> SB16 MIDI at 0x330 irq 1
> OPL-2/OPL-3 FM at 0x388 irq 1
> AWE32 Synth at 0x620 irq 1
> 
> Audio devices:
> 0: SoundBlaster 16 4.16
> 
> Synth devices:
> 0: Yamaha OPL-3
> 1: AWE32-0.4.2c (RAM512k)
> 
> Midi devices:
> 0: SoundBlaster 16 Midi
> 
> Timers:
> 0: System clock
> 
> Mixers:
> 0: SoundBlaster
> 1: AWE32 Equalizer
> 
> Any ideas where I should look next?
> 
> Thanks in advance!
> 
> Aaron out.
> 
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   I have tow partitions on my hard disk, one is msdos, the other
is FreeBSD. Now I want to format the msdos partition to FreeBSD,
how can I do? I don't want to reinstall the system.
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   I have tow partitions on my hard disk, one is msdos, the other
is FreeBSD. Now I want to format the msdos partition to FreeBSD,
how can I do? I don't want to reinstall the system.
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I don't know what the poster's problem actually is, but it's not
the driver he's using.  Amp (and mpg123, etc.) work just fine
with my AWE64GOLD and the VoxWare driver.  Just FYI.

On Sat, Feb 06, 1999 at 06:07:51PM +0000, Mark Ovens wrote:
> 
> 
> "Aaron D. Gifford" wrote:
> > 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I just got sound somewhat working in my 3.0-STABLE kernel (SoundBlaster
> > AWE64 card), installed the amp port from (/usr/ports/audio/amp), then tried
> > it out:
> > 
> 
> [snip]
> 
> > % cat test.out > /dev/audio
> > 
> > I hear SCREETCHing sound for about a second, then nothing for about 10
> > seconds, then I see:
> > 
> > cat: stdout: Input/output error
> > 
> > Here's a cat of /dev/sndstat:
> > # cat /dev/sndstat
> > 
> 
> Have you tried using the pcm driver instead of Voxware? I had exactly
> these symptoms with my OPL3 based card, but it works fine now using pcm

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Here's the story:  I booted up windows (i have a multi os 
FreeBSD 4.0-current/windows computer) to do some visual basic work, but 
just after logging in, it gave a strange message stating that the boot
blocks had changed and there might be a virus on the system.  Strange
since I haven't used windows once in several months.  When I tried to
return to BSD, the kernel booted and reckogized my two drives, but just
afterwards, it paniced with this message (for wd0):

	status 59<rdy,seekdone,drq,err> err 10<no_id>

My guess is that Windows is responsible for this. Maybe it currupted the
disklabel when (for some reason) it saw a change in the bootblocks?  I'm
not sure.  Does anyone know what this error message means, or how repair
the damage?


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On 06-Feb-99 Mark Ovens wrote:

> I've made a small enhancement to csh(1) and want to submit it. Reading
> the handbook it says to include patches in the PR (in the FIX section).
> What is the best way to do this? Copying and pasting into the browser
> will trash TABs, converting them to spaces, so the patch won't work,
> unless it's applied with the ``-l'' option.

diff -ul origfile newfile  is what they want I guess...

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On 06-Feb-99 Paul Dekkers wrote:

> I have a box here running FreeBSD 2.2.1, how y2k compliant is it?
> (Is it worth upgrading? It's a box with many users on it, and even our
> main server, so it would cost a bit work I think :-))

The last few weeks a lot of effort has been put into fishing out the last
Y2k bugs. So the best bet would be to migrate to 3.1 which will hit the
world somewhere next week...

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Mark Ovens <marko@uk.radan.com> writes:
> I've made a small enhancement to csh(1) and want to submit it. Reading
> the handbook it says to include patches in the PR (in the FIX section).
> What is the best way to do this? Copying and pasting into the browser
> will trash TABs, converting them to spaces, so the patch won't work,
> unless it's applied with the ``-l'' option.

The browser? What browser? Use send-pr and your editor's "include
file" command (:r filename<RET> in vi, C-x i filename<RET> in Emacs)

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caijj@trans.hk.hi.cn wrote,
> 
>    I have tow partitions on my hard disk, one is msdos, the other
> is FreeBSD. Now I want to format the msdos partition to FreeBSD,
> how can I do? I don't want to reinstall the system.
>    Thanks!

I just helped someone through this on the list a few weeks ago. Here
is what you need to do,

1) Go into fdisk and change the 'sysid' of the first slice to 165.

2) Next you need to use disklabel on the first slice (the DOS
   "partition") look at the disklabel manpage. If auto labeling does
   not work, use the disklabel on the second slice as a template for
   the first one.

In fact, using the second slice's label as a starting point for a new
one is what we ended up doing with the person I helped.

Email me directly if you need more help. HTH.
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First:
	i like to put my fingers on the source code (some times)
Second:
	i like to keep my system updated always. Ports don't have , for
instance, windowmaker 0.51.0 right now?


Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote:
> 
> On 06-Feb-99 charon@freethought.org wrote:
> > At 12:25 AM 2/6/99 -0200, Gustavo Vieira G C Rios wrote:
> >>Is there any one smart enough here that got WindowMaker working without
> >>using the ports ?
> >
> > Why not use the ports?  It's a great resource, and I'd _love_ to use the
> > ports to install WindowMaker if I could figure out how to upgrade to
> > 3.0-STABLE so I could use png-1.0.3 instead of png-1.0.2, which doesn't
> > work with windowmaker... but that's my own little problem  :)
> 
> Why not get the ports upgrade kit and upgrade the ports directory using
> cvsup? This will allow you to keep up to date on the ports and benefit from
> new additions.
> 
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you should install libPropList this way:

tar zxvf <libproplist-xxxxxx>.tar.gz
cd libproplist-xxxx
./configure --prefix=/usr/X11R6
make && make install

ok?
I got no problem.

Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote:
> 
> On 06-Feb-99 Gustavo Vieira G C Rios wrote:
> > To install WindowMaker 0.51.0 i need LibPropList.
> > I got PropList 0.8.3 version and i installed it as told in INSTALL file
> > guide:
> > ./configure && make && make isntall
> 
> The problem is, when knowing where to look and what to fix, very easy.
> 
> libPropList doesn't adhere to ELF naming conventions at install.
> 
> It will install this:
> 
> /usr/local/lib/libPropList.a
> /usr/local/lib/libPropList.la
> /usr/local/lib/libPropList.so.1.1
> /usr/local/lib/libPropList.so
> 
> But fails to make libPropList.so.1
> 
> simply do:
> 
> cd /usr/local/lib
> ln -s libPropList.so.1.1 libPropList.so.1
> 
> that oughtta fix the problem, after the hints file gets updated with
> ldconfig. Ye might want to verify with ldconfig -r to see if it appears.
> 
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On Sat, Feb 06, 1999 at 07:21:09AM -0800, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:
> The magazines would love to publish more articles on FreeBSD - I get
> asked about writing articles from the various editors all the time.
> 
> Unfortunately, almost each and every time someone like yourself is
> asked to actually write an article to deal with this shortcoming in
> FreeBSD's PR picture, they usually quickly deflate, citing a lack of
> writing skill, time, ideas for a topic, or whatever, and the end
> result is that nothing tangible comes out of it and the problem goes
> right on being a problem. :-(

We have been through this many times. We need to find away around
this. Every couple of months we get someone saying, "There are no articles
about FreeBSD in XYZ magazine. We should do something about this". You
reply back that publishers are coming to you, hat in hand, for something to
publish about FreeBSD. You keep reminding us that publishers are desperate
of articles to publish. You provide them with a list article ideas. Then
this person sorta drifts away and we are left with the same problem.

2 suggestions. 1, post the list of article ideas you have on the web. If
you don't have time put this list into a nice web page, send it to me and
I'll put up the page on BAFUG and FreeBSD can just link to this
page. suggestion 2, this advocacy person you are looking for, have them
write an article or 2.


my $0.02

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On 06-Feb-99 Gustavo Vieira G C Rios wrote:
> you should install libPropList this way:
> 
> tar zxvf <libproplist-xxxxxx>.tar.gz
> cd libproplist-xxxx
> ./configure --prefix=/usr/X11R6
> make && make install
> 
> ok?
> I got no problem.

Correct, but what I was trying to explain is that a little step was left
out.

If the library is elf and doesn't adhere to the x.so.# rule then ldconfig
won't pick it up and thusly all other tries to compile the library in fail.

What I suggested was a way to fix all that.

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On 06-Feb-99 Gustavo Vieira G C Rios wrote:
> First:
>       i like to put my fingers on the source code (some times)
> Second:
>       i like to keep my system updated always. Ports don't have , for
> instance, windowmaker 0.51.0 right now?

Don't think so...

Besides, I prefer to compile the stuff myself as well =)

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Gustavo Vieira G C Rios wrote,
> First:
> 	i like to put my fingers on the source code (some times)

If you do not 'make clean' a port after installing it, all of the
source code will be left in a subdirectoy of that port. Typically, it
will be in a 'work' directory.
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Some more information from testing: If I setup the ISDN T/A to connect 
using v.120, it connects just fine. Change the S param to connect using 
Async-Sync PPP / Multilink PPP (both b channels), I connect the second b 
channel comes up, I get the ips assigned, but then I can not route traffic 
across the line. So there must be some problem with Async-Sync PPP / 
multilink PPP.
 
Thanks again,

Dave


I am running 2.2.7, and have some pppd scripts that I have used for the 
last couple of years to connect to my ISP. I upgraded from my 28.8 to a 
3com IQ ISDN T/A. I changed the phone number, and try to connect. I get 
pass the PSP authentication, and then packets don't forward across the 
line.

Connect the 28.8 modem to the serial port, dial the script, it connects and 
forwards packets.
Connect the ISDN T/A to the same serial port dial the script get the 
dynamic IPs assigned. I try to ping the local assigned IP, and I get 100% 
packet failure. Ping the remote IP, get 100% packet failure, but the SD/RD 
lights flash on the T/A.
Reconnect the 28.8 modem, and all work correctly.

If I change the pap-secrets file to contain the wrong password, the ppp 
connection fails, but the correct password back I get assigned IPs. So, 
there is some talking working across the T/A.

Is there a kernel option to support ISDN T/A? It is an external T/A, 
shouldn't it behave like a normal modem? Do I need to go to 2.2.8 or 3.0?

NOTE: If I use the evil bill os (NT) the T/A will connect with both 
channels to my ISP.

Thanks,

Dave

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Hi,

	I'm trying to track down a mystery.

	On November 7th, I installed a kernel with these options (not including
devices and controllers):

machine         "i386"
cpu             "I686_CPU"
ident           NATGATEWAY
maxusers        32
options         MATH_EMULATE            #Support for x87 emulation
options         INET                    #InterNETworking
options         FFS                     #Berkeley Fast Filesystem
options         FFS_ROOT                #FFS usable as root device [keep
this!]
options         MSDOSFS                 #MSDOS Filesystem
options         PROCFS                  #Process filesystem
options         "COMPAT_43"             #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP
THIS!]
options         SCSI_DELAY=15000        #Be pessimistic about Joe SCSI
device
options         FAILSAFE                #Be conservative
options         USERCONFIG              #boot -c editor
options         KTRACE          #kernel tracing
options         SYSVSHM
options         IPFIREWALL

	On December 6, the last log showed a reboot.  Someone kicked out the power.

	On December 7, I started using sharity-light.

	On January 29, I started using Sharity1.07.

	Everything was working until February 1st.  Someone from the telco was
playing with our dsl line and the machine was no longer able to network
properly.  I restarted the machine.  Everything worked fine.  Later, I was
no longer able to get Sharity to work.  I tried upgrading to Sharity.1.08
but it wouldn't work until I recompiled the kernel with "options NFS."

	This is the mystery: why was sharity working before without NFS support.
All that happened, based on the logs, was that there was a couple of
restarts.  The kernel config file's date is November 7th.  The kernel's date
was November 7th.  Sharity's programmer says that I must've had NFS support
otherwise it would not have worked.  Is there anyway, with my kernel config
above that limited NFS support was included that could explain how Sharity
worked and then all of the sudden stopped working?

TIA

john.


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Hi!

When I first installed FreeBSD, my system's BIOS was recognising my
3.2GB drive as only 1GB. Now I've flash upgraded by BIOS and it and
FreeBSD correctly identify it as a 3.2GB unit.

However, FreeBSD still only uses the first GB, since that was the 'whole
disk' when it was installed.

Is it possible to extend FreeBSD's slice to use the whole disk? How will
that effect the BSD partitions? Will they just each get doubled in size?
Or will I need to treat this new slice as a new HDD?

Many thanks, I checked the Handbook, FAQ and mailing list archives. But
all I could find was information relevant to adding a completely new
drive.

Thanks again!
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	Well put... but why is Linux so popular? It's because of the
vocal supporters who've used. It's because of the people who've quietly
replaced outdated machines or bloated machines with Linux servers in their
IT departments. It's very much a grass roots PR campaign. As Jordan said a
little while back we (the FreeBSD community) need to do the same thing,
it's the only way FreeBSD will become more popular. Some suggestions that
I will follow myself once the weather clears up around here, hold a
FreeBSD (but don't exclude Linux IMHO) install-a-thons and 'Windows
Rebate' days at local computer stores. Get a local users group together.
Get your friends to deploy home FreeBSD servers. Go to the local Goodwill
and buy up a bunch of those $20 machines, install FreeBSD on them and
donate them to schools. Get large companies to do the same thing. Quite
frankly get in people's faces about FreeBSD, but remeber to not dis Linux,
only Microsoft products....:) BTW.... I've got a list of people looking
for FreeBSD user groups locatated at
http://www.dsinw.com/~hamellr/freebsd.org/ug.html


						Rick


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Andrew Boothman wrote,
> Is it possible to extend FreeBSD's slice to use the whole disk? How will
> that effect the BSD partitions? Will they just each get doubled in size?
> Or will I need to treat this new slice as a new HDD?

The easiest thing to do, IMHO, would be to create a new FreeBSD slice
in the newfound space. Then, put a disklabel on it and partition the
slice. FreeBSD does treat slices almost like separate HDs.

I am not completely sure what would happen if you changed your current
slice to take up the whole disk. You would need to use fdisk to change
the size of the slice and rewrite the disklabel. I /think/ you would be
possible to preserve your data on the disk, but I am not at all 100%
sure of that.

I _am_ sure that you cannot resize your present FreeBSD partitions
without losing the data. No matter what, if you do not want to have to
rewrite your data, you will be making new partitions.

> Many thanks, I checked the Handbook, FAQ and mailing list archives. But
> all I could find was information relevant to adding a completely new
> drive.

The mail search at the website strikes again? I helped someone convert
a DOS partition to FreeBSD a few weeks ago and just today answered
someone else doing that.

Mail to me or the list if you need more detailed help. You might want
to include your 'dmesg' output relevent to your disk as well as
'fdisk' output.

> Thanks again!

Hope you figure it out.
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On Sat, Feb 06, 1999 at 01:28:45PM -0800, Rick Hamell wrote:
> 
> 
> 	Well put... but why is Linux so popular? It's because of the
> vocal supporters who've used. It's because of the people who've quietly
> replaced outdated machines or bloated machines with Linux servers in their
> IT departments. It's very much a grass roots PR campaign. As Jordan said a
> little while back we (the FreeBSD community) need to do the same thing,
> it's the only way FreeBSD will become more popular. Some suggestions that
> I will follow myself once the weather clears up around here, hold a
> FreeBSD (but don't exclude Linux IMHO) install-a-thons and 'Windows
> Rebate' days at local computer stores. Get a local users group together.
> Get your friends to deploy home FreeBSD servers. Go to the local Goodwill
> and buy up a bunch of those $20 machines, install FreeBSD on them and
> donate them to schools. Get large companies to do the same thing. Quite
> frankly get in people's faces about FreeBSD, but remeber to not dis Linux,
> only Microsoft products....:) BTW.... I've got a list of people looking
> for FreeBSD user groups locatated at
> http://www.dsinw.com/~hamellr/freebsd.org/ug.html

Nicole Harrington and I run BAFUG here in San Francisco. We also do the
Install-A-Thons. If you need and help or advice please let us know.


Josef

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> only Microsoft products....:) BTW.... I've got a list of people looking
> for FreeBSD user groups locatated at
> http://www.dsinw.com/~hamellr/freebsd.org/ug.html


	And it help if I put the right address in...:)
http://www.dsinw.com/~hamellr/freebsd/ug.html


						Rick


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is there perhaps, an IRQ conflict (i.e. both sound and network card
use the same IRQ)?

ZT

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Ok -

 My ISP is moving me off of SL/IP and onto PPP.  So, I've got to brave
the waters and set everything up again.

 I believe using pppd is pretty straight forward, and shouldn't present
me with too many problems... but, I have a question.

 Right now, I use the following ipfw/natd rules to do some forwarding
and gateway stuff:

  (from /etc/rc.conf):
     natd_interface="sl0"
     natd_flags="-m -u -dynamic -redirect_port tcp 10.0.0.11:telnet 6666 -redirect_port udp 10.0.0.11:telnet 6666"

  And, from /etc/rc.firewall:

		...
	$fwcmd add divert natd all from any to any via ${natd_interface}
		...
        $fwcmd add 400 pass tcp from any to 166.82.177.48 7490
        $fwcmd add 401 pass tcp from any to 10.0.0.10 7490
        $fwcmd add 65000 pass all from any to any


So - now - how do I redo this using pppd?  Basically, I'm asking what
the natd_interface should be.  Is it tun0?  Just what is the interface
in this case?  I'd rather change a little as possible, so I'd like to
just get pppd working (kernel-mode ppp) with my current natd/ipfw
setup instead of using the ppp natd support...

	  - Thanks -
	- Dave Rivers -




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On Sat, Feb 06, 1999 at 01:53:55PM -0800, Rick Hamell wrote:
> 
> > Nicole Harrington and I run BAFUG here in San Francisco. We also do the
> > Install-A-Thons. If you need and help or advice please let us know.
> 
> 	Cool! I do have a couple of questions. :) First, are managers of
> the stores and such pretty open to this kind of thing as long as it
> dosen't interfere with customer traffic? Second, do you give away a lot of
> media or do you burn some to give away? Third, what kind of things do you
> do for advertising such a venture? Or do you let walk-by traffic take care
> of itself?


We do the Install-A-Thons at a computer show that is held by a local
company. This company, The Robert Austin Computer Show, has a regular
schedule of shows around the bay area. We asked for a small space at the
shows. Since the Linux people were doing this already they had a clue as to
what we were about. I suggest that you look for a computer show and see if
the organizers would be open to this. You can read more about our
Install-A-Thons on our web site ( www.bafug.org ). 

As to having an Install-A-Thon in a retail store I would guess that the
store owners would not be open to this. Unless the store is very large my
guess is the store owner would see you guys as taking up to much room.

In the past Walnut Creek has, on very infrequent occasions, had a surplus of
obsolete CDs. These were literally on their way to the dumpster. Jordan gave
us these to pass out at the shows. Lately, Walnut Creek has been selling
all that they press and then some. I understand that right now they are
back ordered on CDs. What we do at the shows is we install from our
personal copies and we have persuaded one of the vendors that regularly
attend the shows to carry FreeBSD. When someone wants a copy we send them
over to that vendor.

The Robert Austin people have ads they place in the newspaper. These ads
have in the past and will in the future have a notice for the FreeBSD
Install-A-Thons. They also have an email list that they send out notices
to. We, BAFUG, post notices to the FreeBSD mailing lists as well as net
news groups. This is an area I think that I need to work more on.


Josef

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On Saturday,  6 February 1999 at 11:10:01 +0000, Mark Ovens wrote:
>
> Greg Lehey wrote:
>>
>> OK.  I said at the very beginning I wasn't sure what you mean by kppp.
>> Now we have kppp, KPPP, ~*KPPP*~ and Kppp.  You need to explain what
>> you are doing.
>
> PMJI Greg, but "kppp" is KDE's GUI front end dialler (kind of like M$
> Dial Up Networking thing) that uses the kernel pppd rather than Brian's
> user ppp. It's just confusing that the names for everything in KDE start
> with "k", which in this case make it look like an abbreviation for
> "kernel ppp".

Thanks.  Yes, it would have been of help had Patrick said that the
first time round.

I don't understand why anybody would want to use kppp.  It looks like
a lot of work for nothing.  The UNIX way is to set things up so that
they run automatically.

> BTW, liked the joke about the drunk, never heard it before, must be an
> Aussie joke I guess ;-)

No, it's from Weizenbaum.  As I said, there's no reason for it to be a
drunk.  I also heard the story told in a Yiddish context about a girl
coming home from the synagogue.

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	i am preparing to set up amchine to boot FreeBSD, Windows98, and NT. I
	intendt to have a fairly latge common disk slice. So the question si
	which of the folowing filesystems can FreeBSD read/write?

	FAT32
	FAT16
	NTFS

	Thanks.

	Oh BTW it will be a 3.0 FreebSD machine, if that matters.

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"John Barbee" <jbarbee@singular.com> writes:
> All that happened, based on the logs, was that there was a couple of
> restarts.  The kernel config file's date is November 7th.  The kernel's date
> was November 7th.  Sharity's programmer says that I must've had NFS support
> otherwise it would not have worked.  Is there anyway, with my kernel config
> above that limited NFS support was included that could explain how Sharity
> worked and then all of the sudden stopped working?

kldload nfs

DES
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A cow-orker is bugging me to get the sound working on a computer. (I
personally find sound on computers more of an annoyance than of any
use, but the computer's got a sub-woofer (!?!) and the works.) The
card is a SoundBlaster 16-bit. There is stuff about MIDI support in
the manual, but I have not been able to decide if it's saying the card
has MIDI support or they are giving me work-arounds (MIDI
emulation). Anyway, that is beside the point; the computer does not
seem to see the card at all at boot time as these lines from 'dmesg'
indicate,

sb0 not found at 0x220
sbxvi0 not found
sbmidi0 not found at 0x330

Here are the lines of interest from the kernel config,

#
# Sound card support (SoundBlaster 16bit)
controller      snd0
device          sb0     at isa? port 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 vector sbintr
device          sbxvi0  at isa? drq 5
device          sbmidi0 at isa? port 0x330

Also note that there seems to be no conflict for IRQ 5,

# dmesg | grep irq
chip4 <Intel 82371AB USB interface> rev 1 int d irq 10 on pci0:7:2
ahc0 <Adaptec 2940A Ultra SCSI host adapter> rev 1 int a irq 9 on pci0:14:0
fxp0 <Intel EtherExpress Pro 10/100B Ethernet> rev 5 int a irq 11 on pci0:15:0
vga0 <VGA-compatible display device> rev 1 int a irq 9 on pci1:0:0
sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard
sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa
sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa
lpt0 at 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa
psm0 at 0x60-0x64 irq 12 on motherboard
fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa
wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa
wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa

And 'pnpinfo' claims the soundcard is on IRQ 5 and on the correct
ports,

Card assigned CSN #1
Vendor ID CTL0054 (0x54008c0e), Serial Number 0x081f38bd
PnP Version 1.0, Vendor Version 16
Device Description: Creative SB AWE32 PnP

Logical Device ID: CTL0031 0x31008c0e #0
Device Description: Audio
TAG Start DF
Good Configuration
    IRQ: 5  - only one type (true/edge)
    DMA: channel(s) 1 
        8-bit, not a bus master, count by byte, , Compatibility mode
    DMA: channel(s) 5 
        16-bit, not a bus master, , count by word, Compatibility mode
    I/O Range 0x220 .. 0x220, alignment 0x1, len 0x10
        [16-bit addr]
    I/O Range 0x330 .. 0x330, alignment 0x1, len 0x2
        [16-bit addr]
    I/O Range 0x388 .. 0x388, alignment 0x1, len 0x4
        [16-bit addr]

Anyone know why this is not working? Anyone have a fix for me? Oh,
here is info on the system,

FreeBSD pc232.mydomain.org 2.2.8-RELEASE FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE #0: Sat Feb  6 17:41:56 EST 1999     cjc@pc232.mydomain.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/PC232  i386

Is this a PnP problem? Any help is appreciated.



For completeness, full 'pnpinfo' output, 'dmesg,' and the full kernel
conf are included below. (Spammy.)

# pnpinfo
Checking for Plug-n-Play devices...

Card assigned CSN #1
Vendor ID CTL0054 (0x54008c0e), Serial Number 0x081f38bd
PnP Version 1.0, Vendor Version 16
Device Description: Creative SB AWE32 PnP

Logical Device ID: CTL0031 0x31008c0e #0
Device Description: Audio
TAG Start DF
Good Configuration
    IRQ: 5  - only one type (true/edge)
    DMA: channel(s) 1 
	8-bit, not a bus master, count by byte, , Compatibility mode
    DMA: channel(s) 5 
	16-bit, not a bus master, , count by word, Compatibility mode
    I/O Range 0x220 .. 0x220, alignment 0x1, len 0x10
	[16-bit addr]
    I/O Range 0x330 .. 0x330, alignment 0x1, len 0x2
	[16-bit addr]
    I/O Range 0x388 .. 0x388, alignment 0x1, len 0x4
	[16-bit addr]
TAG Start DF
Acceptable Configuration
    IRQ: 5 7 10  - only one type (true/edge)
    DMA: channel(s) 0 1 3 
	8-bit, not a bus master, count by byte, , Compatibility mode
    DMA: channel(s) 5 6 7 
	16-bit, not a bus master, , count by word, Compatibility mode
    I/O Range 0x220 .. 0x280, alignment 0x20, len 0x10
	[16-bit addr]
    I/O Range 0x300 .. 0x330, alignment 0x30, len 0x2
	[16-bit addr]
    I/O Range 0x388 .. 0x388, alignment 0x1, len 0x4
	[16-bit addr]
TAG Start DF
Acceptable Configuration
    IRQ: 5 7 10  - only one type (true/edge)
    DMA: channel(s) 0 1 3 
	8-bit, not a bus master, count by byte, , Compatibility mode
    DMA: channel(s) 5 6 7 
	16-bit, not a bus master, , count by word, Compatibility mode
    I/O Range 0x220 .. 0x280, alignment 0x20, len 0x10
	[16-bit addr]
    I/O Range 0x300 .. 0x330, alignment 0x30, len 0x2
	[16-bit addr]
TAG Start DF
Acceptable Configuration
    IRQ: 5 7 10  - only one type (true/edge)
    DMA: channel(s) 0 1 3 
	8-bit, not a bus master, count by byte, , Compatibility mode
    DMA: channel(s) 5 6 7 
	16-bit, not a bus master, , count by word, Compatibility mode
    I/O Range 0x220 .. 0x280, alignment 0x20, len 0x10
	[16-bit addr]
TAG Start DF
Acceptable Configuration
    IRQ: 5 7 10  - only one type (true/edge)
    DMA: channel(s) 0 1 3 
	8-bit, not a bus master, count by byte, , Compatibility mode
    I/O Range 0x220 .. 0x280, alignment 0x20, len 0x10
	[16-bit addr]
    I/O Range 0x300 .. 0x330, alignment 0x30, len 0x2
	[16-bit addr]
    I/O Range 0x388 .. 0x388, alignment 0x1, len 0x4
	[16-bit addr]
TAG Start DF
Acceptable Configuration
    IRQ: 5 7 10  - only one type (true/edge)
    DMA: channel(s) 0 1 3 
	8-bit, not a bus master, count by byte, , Compatibility mode
    I/O Range 0x220 .. 0x280, alignment 0x20, len 0x10
	[16-bit addr]
    I/O Range 0x300 .. 0x330, alignment 0x30, len 0x2
	[16-bit addr]
TAG Start DF
Acceptable Configuration
    IRQ: 5 7 10 11  - only one type (true/edge)
    DMA: channel(s) 0 1 3 
	8-bit, not a bus master, count by byte, , Compatibility mode
    I/O Range 0x220 .. 0x280, alignment 0x20, len 0x10
	[16-bit addr]
TAG Start DF
Sub-optimal Configuration
    IRQ: 5 7 10 11  - only one type (true/edge)
    DMA: channel(s) 0 1 3 
	8-bit, not a bus master, count by byte, , Compatibility mode
    DMA: channel(s) 5 6 7 
	16-bit, not a bus master, , count by word, Compatibility mode
    I/O Range 0x220 .. 0x280, alignment 0x20, len 0x10
	[16-bit addr]
    I/O Range 0x300 .. 0x330, alignment 0x10, len 0x2
	[16-bit addr]
    I/O Range 0x388 .. 0x394, alignment 0x4, len 0x4
	[16-bit addr]
TAG End DF

Logical Device ID: CTL7fff 0xff7f8c0e #1
Device Description: Reserved
    I/O Range 0x140 .. 0x178, alignment 0x8, len 0x1
	[16-bit addr]

Logical Device ID: CTL0021 0x21008c0e #2
Device Description: WaveTable
TAG Start DF
Good Configuration
    I/O Range 0x620 .. 0x620, alignment 0x1, len 0x4
	[16-bit addr]
TAG Start DF
Acceptable Configuration
    I/O Range 0x620 .. 0x680, alignment 0x20, len 0x4
	[16-bit addr]
TAG End DF

Logical Device ID: CTL7001 0x01708c0e #3
Device Description: Game
    I/O Range 0x200 .. 0x200, alignment 0x1, len 0x8
	[16-bit addr]

Logical Device ID: CTL0051 0x51008c0e #4
Device Description: StereoEnhance
    I/O Range 0x100 .. 0x138, alignment 0x8, len 0x1
	[16-bit addr]
End Tag

Successfully got 68 resources, 5 logical fdevs
-- card select # 0x0001

CSN CTL0054 (0x54008c0e), Serial Number 0x081f38bd

Logical device #0
IO:  0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000
IRQ 0 0
DMA 4 4
IO range check 0x00 activate 0x00

Logical device #1
IO:  0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000
IRQ 0 0
DMA 4 4
IO range check 0x00 activate 0x00

Logical device #2
IO:  0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000
IRQ 0 0
DMA 4 4
IO range check 0x00 activate 0x00

Logical device #3
IO:  0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000
IRQ 0 0
DMA 4 4
IO range check 0x00 activate 0x00

Logical device #4
IO:  0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000
IRQ 0 0
DMA 4 4
IO range check 0x00 activate 0x00


# dmesg
Copyright (c) 1992-1998 FreeBSD Inc.
Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993
	The Regents of the University of California.  All rights reserved.

FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE #0: Sat Feb  6 17:41:56 EST 1999
    cjc@pc232.mydomain.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/PC232
CPU: Pentium II (quarter-micron) (333.27-MHz 686-class CPU)
  Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0x650  Stepping=0
  Features=0x183f9ff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,<b16>,<b17>,MMX,<b24>>
real memory  = 67108864 (65536K bytes)
avail memory = 63406080 (61920K bytes)
Probing for devices on PCI bus 0:
chip0 <generic PCI bridge (vendor=8086 device=7180 subclass=0)> rev 3 on pci0:0:0
chip1 <generic PCI bridge (vendor=8086 device=7181 subclass=4)> rev 3 on pci0:1:0
chip2 <Intel 82371AB PCI-ISA bridge> rev 1 on pci0:7:0
chip3 <Intel 82371AB IDE interface> rev 1 on pci0:7:1
chip4 <Intel 82371AB USB interface> rev 1 int d irq 10 on pci0:7:2
chip5 <Intel 82371AB Power management controller> rev 1 on pci0:7:3
ahc0 <Adaptec 2940A Ultra SCSI host adapter> rev 1 int a irq 9 on pci0:14:0
ahc0: aic7860 Single Channel, SCSI Id=7, 3 SCBs
ahc0 waiting for scsi devices to settle
ahc0:A:4: refuses synchronous negotiation. Using asynchronous transfers
(ahc0:4:0): "HP CD-Writer 6020 1.07" type 5 removable SCSI 2
worm0(ahc0:4:0): Write-Once 
(ahc0:6:0): "iomega jaz 2GB E.15" type 0 removable SCSI 2
sd0(ahc0:6:0): Direct-Access 
sd0(ahc0:6:0): NOT READY asc:3a,0 Medium not present
sd0: could not get size

sd0(ahc0:6:0): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:24,0 Invalid field in CDB
sd0 could not mode sense (4). Using fictitious geometry
0MB (0 512 byte sectors)
fxp0 <Intel EtherExpress Pro 10/100B Ethernet> rev 5 int a irq 11 on pci0:15:0
fxp0: Ethernet address 00:90:27:22:fe:b8
Probing for devices on PCI bus 1:
vga0 <VGA-compatible display device> rev 1 int a irq 9 on pci1:0:0
Probing for devices on the ISA bus:
sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard
sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0>
sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa
sio0: type 16550A
sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa
sio1: type 16550A
lpt0 at 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa
lpt0: Interrupt-driven port
lp0: TCP/IP capable interface
psm0 at 0x60-0x64 irq 12 on motherboard
psm0: model IntelliMouse, device ID 3
fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa
wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa
wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): <IBM-DHEA-38451>
wd0: 8063MB (16514064 sectors), 16383 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S
wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa
wdc1: unit 0 (atapi): <FX320S/q01>, removable, intr, dma, iordis
wcd0: 5512KB/sec, 256KB cache, audio play, 255 volume levels, ejectable tray
wcd0: no disc inside, unlocked
wdc1: unit 1 (atapi): <LS-120 COSM   02              UHD Floppy/0271C09T>, removable, iordy
wfd0: medium type unknown (no disk)
sb0 not found at 0x220
sbxvi0 not found
sbmidi0 not found at 0x330
npx0 flags 0x1 on motherboard
npx0: INT 16 interface


# more /sys/i386/conf/PC232
#
# PC232
#
# For more information read the handbook part System Administration -> 
# Configuring the FreeBSD Kernel -> The Configuration File. 
# The handbook is available in /usr/share/doc/handbook or online as
# latest version from the FreeBSD World Wide Web server 
# <URL:http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/>
#
# An exhaustive list of options and more detailed explanations of the 
# device lines is present in the ./LINT configuration file. If you are 
# in doubt as to the purpose or necessity of a line, check first in LINT.
#
# CJC, 2/2/99

machine		"i386"
cpu		"I686_CPU"
ident		"PC232"
maxusers	32

options		INET			#InterNETworking
options		FFS			#Berkeley Fast Filesystem
options		NFS			#Network Filesystem
options		MSDOSFS			#MSDOS Filesystem
options		"CD9660"		#ISO 9660 Filesystem
options		PROCFS			#Process filesystem
options		"COMPAT_43"		#Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!]
options		SCSI_DELAY=10		#Be pessimistic about Joe SCSI device
options		BOUNCE_BUFFERS		#include support for DMA bounce buffers
options		UCONSOLE		#Allow users to grab the console
options		FAILSAFE		#Be conservative

config		kernel	root on wd0

controller	isa0
controller	eisa0
controller	pci0

controller	fdc0	at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio irq 6 drq 2 vector fdintr
disk		fd0	at fdc0 drive 0

#
# IDE Devices:

options		ATAPI		#Enable ATAPI support for IDE bus
options		ATAPI_STATIC	#Don't do it as an LKM

controller	wdc0	at isa? port "IO_WD1" bio irq 14 vector wdintr
disk		wd0	at wdc0 drive 0

controller	wdc1	at isa? port "IO_WD2" bio irq 15 vector wdintr
device		wcd0		#IDE CD-ROM
device		wfd0		#IDE floppy (LS-120)

#
# SCSI Devices:
# A single entry for any of these controllers (ncr, ahb, ahc, amd) is
# sufficient for any number of installed devices.
#
controller	ahc0		#Adaptec 274x/284x/294x
controller	scbus0 at ahc0

device		cd0	#Only need one of these, the code dynamically grows
device 		worm0 	at scbus?  # SCSI worm

#
# Sound card support (SoundBlaster 16bit)
controller	snd0
device		sb0     at isa? port 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 vector sbintr
device		sbxvi0  at isa? drq 5
device		sbmidi0 at isa? port 0x330


# Mandatory, don't remove
device		npx0	at isa? port "IO_NPX" flags 0x1 irq 13 vector npxintr

#
# PCI devices
device		apm0    at isa?	disable	# Advanced Power Management
options		APM_BROKEN_STATCLOCK	# Workaround some buggy APM BIOS

#
# Standard devices:
#
# syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console
device		sc0	at isa? port "IO_KBD" tty irq 1 vector scintr
# serial ports
device		sio0	at isa? port "IO_COM1" tty irq 4 vector siointr
device		sio1	at isa? port "IO_COM2" tty irq 3 vector siointr
# conflicting with soundcard?
# device	sio2    at isa? disable port "IO_COM3" tty irq 5 vector siointr
# device	sio3    at isa? disable port "IO_COM4" tty irq 9 vector siointr
# parallel (printer) ports
device		lpt0	at isa? port? tty irq 7 vector lptintr
# PS/2 mouse device
device		psm0	at isa? port "IO_KBD" conflicts tty irq 12 vector psmintr

#
# The `fxp' device provides support for the Intel EtherExpress Pro/100B
# PCI Fast Ethernet adapters.
device fxp0


#
# Network interfaces:
#  The `loop' pseudo-device is MANDATORY when networking is enabled.
#  The `ether' pseudo-device provides generic code to handle
#  Ethernets; it is MANDATORY when a Ethernet device driver is
#  configured.
#  The `bpfilter' pseudo-device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter.  Be
#  aware of the legal and administrative consequences of enabling this
#  option.  The number of devices determines the maximum number of
#  simultaneous BPF clients programs runnable.
#
pseudo-device	loop            #Network loopback device
pseudo-device	ether		#Generic Ethernet
pseudo-device   bpfilter 4      #Berkeley packet filter

#
# Misc Devices:
# Of these, only the `log' device is truly mandatory.  The `pty'
# device usually turns out to be ``effectively mandatory'', as it is
# required for `telnetd', `rlogind', `screen', `emacs', and `xterm',
# among others. 
# If you wish to run certain
# system utilities which are compressed by default (like /stand/sysinstall)
# then `gzip' becomes mandatory too.
#
pseudo-device	log		#Kernel syslog interface (/dev/klog)
pseudo-device	vn	1	#Vnode driver (turns a file into a device)
pseudo-device	pty	16      #Pseudo ttys - can go as high as 256
pseudo-device	gzip		#Exec gzipped a.out's

#
# KTRACE enables the system-call tracing facility ktrace(2).
# This adds 4 KB bloat to your kernel, and slightly increases
# the costs of each syscall.
# options		KTRACE		#kernel tracing

#
# This provides support for System V shared memory.
options         SYSVSHM


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On Saturday,  6 February 1999 at  8:46:40 -0800, Raymond wrote:
>
> I am just wondering if there is info about the process state.  I am
> doing a school project which my focus is on how FreeBSD is dealing with
> the process scheduling and context switching as well as the priority
> schema.  I was trying to use the search engine on the net in the
> official site, but I could only find very limited information. Could you
> direct me how I could obtain relavant information?

This is probably more relevant to -hackers (in-depth technical
discussion).

I don't think we have anything specific for FreeBSD, apart from the
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You're probably best off looking at ``The Design and Implementation of
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much since 4.4BSD; it's a pretty stable part of the kernel.

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try adding 

controller pnp0

to your kernel conf file.

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Redirected to freebsd-questions rather than freebsd-newbies.

Andrew Lankford wrote,
> Two problems have been a minor source of irritation to me while I've used
> 2.2.2 and 2.2.5. 
>  First, I haven't been able to get the class capabilities
> database to work.  I was alerted to this problem when I first logged on to the 
> console:
> Feb  6 13:15:56 bogushost login: couldn't resolve 'tc=' reference in 'login_getclass'
> 
> Since then, I've tried restoring the login.conf file to the "out of box" version,  I've looked for incorrect syntax, and I've tried "tweaking" it in order
> to rid the file of "tc=" references. 
> Going by the man page documentation, I couldn't find any problems with
>  login.conf, so I tried rebuilding "login" and then as much of /usr/libexec as
>  I knew how.  No success, although I could have overlooked something.
>   Does anyone know precisely what the binaries are that I need to rebuild 
> in order to make my system read login.conf without any complaints, or is/was
> there a patch available?

Ummm, why are you rebuilding binaries? When you change 'login.conf,'
use the command 'cap_mkdb /etc/login.conf' to rebuild the datbase. If
login reports trouble, could you forward the 'login.conf' to the list?

> I'm also wondering whether anyone out there using xdm has gotten "sessreg" 
> to work right, that is, does your X session show up in "who"?  I'm not very
> literate in C, but I think the source code for "sessreg" says that *BSD
> OS's can't use DISPLAY values like ":0" in "utmp".  Perhaps this is a question
> that should be directed at the XFree86 folks, but  there have been a few
> other usenet gripes about it.

Sorry, never have tried to use 'sessreg.' How were your xdm files
configuration files using it?

> Thanks in advance for the input...
> 
> 
> Andrew Lankford 

BTW, Andrew, I am not sure what MUA you are using, but a lot of your
lines were greater than 80 columns in length making it hard to read.
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> Kind of like 2001: A Space Odyssey -- HAL + 0x10101 = IBM :-)

Ever read 2001?  HAL really stands for (according to the book)
Heuristically programed ALgorithmic computer.  You'd have to ask
Clarke and Kubrick for the straight story on this though.

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http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/handbook56.html

these are the filesystem options you can put in the kernel.

your closest bet would be MSDOSFS.  but i don't know if that's the same as
FAT16

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> Subject: Supporetd filesystesm?
>
>
> 	i am preparing to set up amchine to boot FreeBSD,
> Windows98, and NT. I
> 	intendt to have a fairly latge common disk slice. So the question si
> 	which of the folowing filesystems can FreeBSD read/write?
>
> 	FAT32
> 	FAT16
> 	NTFS
>
> 	Thanks.
>
> 	Oh BTW it will be a 3.0 FreebSD machine, if that matters.
>
> --
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HI All,

Below I have a very simple 'c' program but I can't make it work !! What am I
doing wrong, it will not compile?

Any help would be great 

Thanks 

Keith

<snip test.c>
#include <math.h>

main ()
{
double x = 64;
double ans;
ans = sqrt(x);

printf("ans = %lf\n",ans);

}

</snip test.c>

keith@wis~>cc test.c
/var/tmp/ccV145121.o: Undefined symbol `_sqrt' referenced from text segment



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I've never heard of kldload until you mentioned it. 
And rc.conf has nfs_client_enable and nfs_server_enable both set to NO.

Thank you.

john.

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> > i don't think any thing i'm running would dynamically link nfs into the
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> 
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Zdenko Tomasic wrote,
> try adding 
> 
> controller pnp0
> 
> to your kernel conf file.

Did it, but no luck. The following pops up in dmesg,

Probing for PnP devices:
CSN 1 Vendor ID: CTL0054 [0x54008c0e] Serial 0x081f38bd

But I still get,

Probing for devices on the ISA bus:
.
.
.
sb0 not found at 0x220
sbxvi0 not found
sbmidi0 not found at 0x330

Do I need to change the lines,

device          sb0     at isa? port 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 vector sbintr
device          sbxvi0  at isa? drq 5
device          sbmidi0 at isa? port 0x330

To,

device          sb0     at pnp0 port 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 vector sbintr
device          sbxvi0  at pnp0 drq 5
device          sbmidi0 at pnp0 port 0x330

Or something like that?
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Andrew, I have gotten my X logins to show up in some form.  I think I was
able to get it showing up in the last log but not respond to w/who/finger.
I was in the middle of tracking down where in the code these program were
getting their information from but got distracted.  I've since reinstalled
and haven't gotten back to it.

Anyway, I think that with the correct sessreg config like it says in
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=137567+139561+/usr/local/www/db/
text/1997/freebsd-questions/19970608.freebsd-questions
you get stuff showing up in the last log.  However, in order for the other
cmds to work you need to do something else.  But I'm not sure and I'm not an
expert.

john.


>
> > I'm also wondering whether anyone out there using xdm has
> gotten "sessreg"
> > to work right, that is, does your X session show up in "who"?
> I'm not very
> > literate in C, but I think the source code for "sessreg" says that *BSD
> > OS's can't use DISPLAY values like ":0" in "utmp".  Perhaps
> this is a question
> > that should be directed at the XFree86 folks, but  there have been a few
> > other usenet gripes about it.
>
> Sorry, never have tried to use 'sessreg.' How were your xdm files
> configuration files using it?
>
> > Thanks in advance for the input...
> >
> >
> > Andrew Lankford


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Stan Brown wrote,
> 	i am preparing to set up amchine to boot FreeBSD, Windows98, and NT. I
> 	intendt to have a fairly latge common disk slice. So the question si
> 	which of the folowing filesystems can FreeBSD read/write?
> 
> 	FAT32
> 	FAT16

All of the FATxx's are supported by enabling the MSDOSFS option in the
kernel (enabled by default). All can do read/writes. FreeBSD will
determine whether a mounted MSDOS filesystem is 16 or 32 on its
own; it is transparent to the user.

> 	NTFS

At present, I believe there is a read-only module for NTFS. See,

http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~markov/ntfs_install.html

> 	Thanks.
> 
> 	Oh BTW it will be a 3.0 FreebSD machine, if that matters.

These all work on 3.x and 2.2.x.

IMHO, you are best off with one of the FAT's. I do not believe Win98
can handle NTFS can it?
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Keith Anderson wrote,
> HI All,
> 
> Below I have a very simple 'c' program but I can't make it work !! What am I
> doing wrong, it will not compile?
> 
> Any help would be great 
> 
> Thanks 
> 
> Keith
> 
> <snip test.c>
> #include <math.h>
> 
> main ()
> {
> double x = 64;
> double ans;
> ans = sqrt(x);
> 
> printf("ans = %lf\n",ans);
> 
> }
> 
> </snip test.c>
> 
> keith@wis~>cc test.c
> /var/tmp/ccV145121.o: Undefined symbol `_sqrt' referenced from text segment

Type,

% cc -lm test.c -o test

This includes the math libraries. It is standard accross most UNICies.
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no, leave isa as it specifies a bus, not controller.
I guess I cannot be of more help.

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On Sun, Feb 07, 1999 at 11:32:38AM +1100, Keith Anderson wrote:
> HI All,
> 
> Below I have a very simple 'c' program but I can't make it work !! What am I
> doing wrong, it will not compile?
> 
> Any help would be great 
> 
> Thanks 
> 
> Keith
> 
> <snip test.c>
> #include <math.h>
> 
> main ()
> {
> double x = 64;
> double ans;
> ans = sqrt(x);
> 
> printf("ans = %lf\n",ans);
> 
> }
> 
> </snip test.c>
> 
> keith@wis~>cc test.c
> /var/tmp/ccV145121.o: Undefined symbol `_sqrt' referenced from text segment

You've got to link it with libm, like so:

cc -lm test.c

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i DID say it the first time around, i said "I'm using kde, and the kppp
dialer to connect"

Do NOT blame me because of your lack of knowledge of KDE.

patrick

At 10:04 AM 2/7/99 +1030, you wrote:
>On Saturday,  6 February 1999 at 11:10:01 +0000, Mark Ovens wrote:
>>
>> Greg Lehey wrote:
>>>
>>> OK.  I said at the very beginning I wasn't sure what you mean by kppp.
>>> Now we have kppp, KPPP, ~*KPPP*~ and Kppp.  You need to explain what
>>> you are doing.
>>
>> PMJI Greg, but "kppp" is KDE's GUI front end dialler (kind of like M$
>> Dial Up Networking thing) that uses the kernel pppd rather than Brian's
>> user ppp. It's just confusing that the names for everything in KDE start
>> with "k", which in this case make it look like an abbreviation for
>> "kernel ppp".
>
>Thanks.  Yes, it would have been of help had Patrick said that the
>first time round.
>
>I don't understand why anybody would want to use kppp.  It looks like
>a lot of work for nothing.  The UNIX way is to set things up so that
>they run automatically.
>
>> BTW, liked the joke about the drunk, never heard it before, must be an
>> Aussie joke I guess ;-)
>
>No, it's from Weizenbaum.  As I said, there's no reason for it to be a
>drunk.  I also heard the story told in a Yiddish context about a girl
>coming home from the synagogue.
>
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On Saturday,  6 February 1999 at 20:03:56 -0500, Patrick Morris wrote:
> At 10:04 AM 2/7/99 +1030, you wrote:
>> On Saturday,  6 February 1999 at 11:10:01 +0000, Mark Ovens wrote:
>>>
>>> Greg Lehey wrote:
>>>>
>>>> OK.  I said at the very beginning I wasn't sure what you mean by kppp.
>>>> Now we have kppp, KPPP, ~*KPPP*~ and Kppp.  You need to explain what
>>>> you are doing.
>>>
>>> PMJI Greg, but "kppp" is KDE's GUI front end dialler (kind of like M$
>>> Dial Up Networking thing) that uses the kernel pppd rather than Brian's
>>> user ppp. It's just confusing that the names for everything in KDE start
>>> with "k", which in this case make it look like an abbreviation for
>>> "kernel ppp".
>>
>> Thanks.  Yes, it would have been of help had Patrick said that the
>> first time round.
>>
>> I don't understand why anybody would want to use kppp.  It looks like
>> a lot of work for nothing.  The UNIX way is to set things up so that
>> they run automatically.
>>
>>> BTW, liked the joke about the drunk, never heard it before, must be an
>>> Aussie joke I guess ;-)
>>
>> No, it's from Weizenbaum.  As I said, there's no reason for it to be a
>> drunk.  I also heard the story told in a Yiddish context about a girl
>> coming home from the synagogue.
>
> i DID say it the first time around, i said "I'm using kde, and the kppp
> dialer to connect"
>
> Do NOT blame me because of your lack of knowledge of KDE.

My sincere apologies for my lack of knowledge and my inability to read
your mind.  I'm obviously not good enough to solve your problems, and
so I won't try.  You'd best find somebody better than me.

Greg
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HELP!  (bet you haven't heard that before :-))

I'm a newbie with FreeBSD, but I've spent numerous hours attempting to =
figure this out.  I have an Intel EtherExpress ISA network card that was =
working fine under windoze on irq9.  According to the documentation, =
this card should be supported under the generic kernel, but it isn't =
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is:
device ix0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd0000

It seems reasonable to me that the driver just isn't in the system.  Am =
I correct?  Would it be somewhere on one of the cd's?  (I purchased the =
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if you don't drop that attitude you won't get anywhere.

if you follow the list, you'd that greg is one of the people who constantly
offers suggestions on the questions list to fix other people's problems.

john.

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> Sent: Saturday, February 06, 1999 5:04 PM
> To: Greg Lehey
> Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> Subject: Re: help - Ethernet AND Modem
>
>
>
> i DID say it the first time around, i said "I'm using kde, and the kppp
> dialer to connect"
>
> Do NOT blame me because of your lack of knowledge of KDE.
>
> patrick
>
> At 10:04 AM 2/7/99 +1030, you wrote:
> >On Saturday,  6 February 1999 at 11:10:01 +0000, Mark Ovens wrote:
> >>
> >> Greg Lehey wrote:
> >>>
> >>> OK.  I said at the very beginning I wasn't sure what you mean by kppp.
> >>> Now we have kppp, KPPP, ~*KPPP*~ and Kppp.  You need to explain what
> >>> you are doing.
> >>
> >> PMJI Greg, but "kppp" is KDE's GUI front end dialler (kind of like M$
> >> Dial Up Networking thing) that uses the kernel pppd rather than Brian's
> >> user ppp. It's just confusing that the names for everything in
> KDE start
> >> with "k", which in this case make it look like an abbreviation for
> >> "kernel ppp".
> >
> >Thanks.  Yes, it would have been of help had Patrick said that the
> >first time round.
> >
> >I don't understand why anybody would want to use kppp.  It looks like
> >a lot of work for nothing.  The UNIX way is to set things up so that
> >they run automatically.
> >
> >> BTW, liked the joke about the drunk, never heard it before, must be an
> >> Aussie joke I guess ;-)
> >
> >No, it's from Weizenbaum.  As I said, there's no reason for it to be a
> >drunk.  I also heard the story told in a Yiddish context about a girl
> >coming home from the synagogue.
> >
> >Greg
> >--
> >See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers
> >finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key
> >
>
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 Help!! I am trying to setup my FreeBSD 2.2.7 box to act as a 
firewall between my local lan and my dial up isp via ppp. I would 
like the Win98 systems on the lan to communicate to the internet 
via socks5 on the firewall. I would like to telnet to the firewall from 
the lan, but only from 204.244.109.4 on the internet. I have disabled 
all daemons except for telnetd in inetd. I have the socks5 server 
from NEC installed. My problem is that my win98 systems will not 
talk to socks5 unless I specifically tell the program to specifically 
do so. I need to be able to do it transparently as I have some 
winsock software that does not have built in proxy support. Unless 
I leave "ipfw add 65000 pass all from any to any" in rc.firewall, the 
pop3 software etc. are all denied. Can anyone offer any 
suggestions?


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I get the above message whenever I try to run Linux binaries.  The
machine is running 3.0-RELEASE, which was binary upgraded from
2.2.2-RELEASE.  I would go troll the archives, but www.freebsd.org
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I have a pnp modem installed . When executing user ppp under 2.2.8 I am
able to connect to my isp where the user and password are accepted. From
that point I am at a loss as to how to proceed. I have tried invoking
lynx at the ppp prompt; but in fact I don't understand the relationship
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line? How is the browser process associated with the communication line?
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Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote:
> 
> On 06-Feb-99 Mark Ovens wrote:
> 
> > I've made a small enhancement to csh(1) and want to submit it. Reading
> > the handbook it says to include patches in the PR (in the FIX section).
> > What is the best way to do this? Copying and pasting into the browser
> > will trash TABs, converting them to spaces, so the patch won't work,
> > unless it's applied with the ``-l'' option.
> 
> diff -ul origfile newfile  is what they want I guess...
> 

I know what's wanted, it's sat here waiting to go. I'm just not sure how
to get it to them. I don't want to send a diff that fails coz all the
TABS have become spaces.


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Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote:
> 
> Mark Ovens <marko@uk.radan.com> writes:
> > I've made a small enhancement to csh(1) and want to submit it. Reading
> > the handbook it says to include patches in the PR (in the FIX section).
> > What is the best way to do this? Copying and pasting into the browser
> > will trash TABs, converting them to spaces, so the patch won't work,
> > unless it's applied with the ``-l'' option.
> 
> The browser? What browser? Use send-pr and your editor's "include
> file" command (:r filename<RET> in vi, C-x i filename<RET> in Emacs)
> 

Ah, come on, give me a break, this is the first time I've done this.

I said I'm going to have to do it on-line on the Website, which means
using a browser. I know how to include a file in vi, but doesn't send-pr
use sendmail? which I haven't got installed. My only concern is that if
I enter the diffs by copying & pasting then the TABS will be converted
to spaces so the patches won't work (without the ``-l'' option).


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Hi,

> Second:
> 	i like to keep my system updated always. Ports don't have , for
> instance, windowmaker 0.51.0 right now?

Which is strange since Brian Handy submitted a PR for it awhile back (the
libProplist change was done already).  I'm not sure whether it was the
libProplist-gnome maintainer's patch or Brian's that got committed.  You
can dig through the PRs to find Brian's diff to update Window Maker to
0.51.

Brett
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Stan Brown wrote:
> 
>         i am preparing to set up amchine to boot FreeBSD, Windows98, and NT. I
>         intendt to have a fairly latge common disk slice. So the question si
>         which of the folowing filesystems can FreeBSD read/write?
> 
>         FAT32
>         FAT16
>         NTFS
> 

All of them :-)


>         Thanks.
> 
>         Oh BTW it will be a 3.0 FreebSD machine, if that matters.
> 
> --
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> --
> Windows 98: n.
>         useless extension to a minor patch release for 32-bit extensions and
>         a graphical shell for a 16-bit patch to an 8-bit operating system
>         originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, written by a 2-bit
>         company that can't stand for 1 bit of competition.
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"Crist J. Clark" wrote:
> 
> A cow-orker is bugging me to get the sound working on a computer. (I
> personally find sound on computers more of an annoyance than of any
> use, but the computer's got a sub-woofer (!?!) and the works.) The
> card is a SoundBlaster 16-bit. There is stuff about MIDI support in
> the manual, but I have not been able to decide if it's saying the card
> has MIDI support or they are giving me work-arounds (MIDI
> emulation). Anyway, that is beside the point; the computer does not
> seem to see the card at all at boot time as these lines from 'dmesg'
> indicate,
> 
> sb0 not found at 0x220
> sbxvi0 not found
> sbmidi0 not found at 0x330
> 

Try the pcm driver instead.

> Here are the lines of interest from the kernel config,
> 
> #
> # Sound card support (SoundBlaster 16bit)
> controller      snd0
> device          sb0     at isa? port 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 vector sbintr
> device          sbxvi0  at isa? drq 5
> device          sbmidi0 at isa? port 0x330
> 
> Also note that there seems to be no conflict for IRQ 5,
> 
> # dmesg | grep irq
> chip4 <Intel 82371AB USB interface> rev 1 int d irq 10 on pci0:7:2
> ahc0 <Adaptec 2940A Ultra SCSI host adapter> rev 1 int a irq 9 on pci0:14:0
> fxp0 <Intel EtherExpress Pro 10/100B Ethernet> rev 5 int a irq 11 on pci0:15:0
> vga0 <VGA-compatible display device> rev 1 int a irq 9 on pci1:0:0
> sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard
> sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa
> sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa
> lpt0 at 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa
> psm0 at 0x60-0x64 irq 12 on motherboard
> fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa
> wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa
> wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa
> 
> And 'pnpinfo' claims the soundcard is on IRQ 5 and on the correct
> ports,
> 
> Card assigned CSN #1
> Vendor ID CTL0054 (0x54008c0e), Serial Number 0x081f38bd
> PnP Version 1.0, Vendor Version 16
> Device Description: Creative SB AWE32 PnP
> 
> Logical Device ID: CTL0031 0x31008c0e #0
> Device Description: Audio
> TAG Start DF
> Good Configuration
>     IRQ: 5  - only one type (true/edge)
>     DMA: channel(s) 1
>         8-bit, not a bus master, count by byte, , Compatibility mode
>     DMA: channel(s) 5
>         16-bit, not a bus master, , count by word, Compatibility mode
>     I/O Range 0x220 .. 0x220, alignment 0x1, len 0x10
>         [16-bit addr]
>     I/O Range 0x330 .. 0x330, alignment 0x1, len 0x2
>         [16-bit addr]
>     I/O Range 0x388 .. 0x388, alignment 0x1, len 0x4
>         [16-bit addr]
> 
> Anyone know why this is not working? Anyone have a fix for me? Oh,
> here is info on the system,
> 
> FreeBSD pc232.mydomain.org 2.2.8-RELEASE FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE #0: Sat Feb  6 17:41:56 EST 1999     cjc@pc232.mydomain.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/PC232  i386
> 
> Is this a PnP problem? Any help is appreciated.
> 
> For completeness, full 'pnpinfo' output, 'dmesg,' and the full kernel
> conf are included below. (Spammy.)
> 
> # pnpinfo
> Checking for Plug-n-Play devices...
> 
> Card assigned CSN #1
> Vendor ID CTL0054 (0x54008c0e), Serial Number 0x081f38bd
> PnP Version 1.0, Vendor Version 16
> Device Description: Creative SB AWE32 PnP
> 
> Logical Device ID: CTL0031 0x31008c0e #0
> Device Description: Audio
> TAG Start DF
> Good Configuration
>     IRQ: 5  - only one type (true/edge)
>     DMA: channel(s) 1
>         8-bit, not a bus master, count by byte, , Compatibility mode
>     DMA: channel(s) 5
>         16-bit, not a bus master, , count by word, Compatibility mode
>     I/O Range 0x220 .. 0x220, alignment 0x1, len 0x10
>         [16-bit addr]
>     I/O Range 0x330 .. 0x330, alignment 0x1, len 0x2
>         [16-bit addr]
>     I/O Range 0x388 .. 0x388, alignment 0x1, len 0x4
>         [16-bit addr]
> TAG Start DF
> Acceptable Configuration
>     IRQ: 5 7 10  - only one type (true/edge)
>     DMA: channel(s) 0 1 3
>         8-bit, not a bus master, count by byte, , Compatibility mode
>     DMA: channel(s) 5 6 7
>         16-bit, not a bus master, , count by word, Compatibility mode
>     I/O Range 0x220 .. 0x280, alignment 0x20, len 0x10
>         [16-bit addr]
>     I/O Range 0x300 .. 0x330, alignment 0x30, len 0x2
>         [16-bit addr]
>     I/O Range 0x388 .. 0x388, alignment 0x1, len 0x4
>         [16-bit addr]
> TAG Start DF
> Acceptable Configuration
>     IRQ: 5 7 10  - only one type (true/edge)
>     DMA: channel(s) 0 1 3
>         8-bit, not a bus master, count by byte, , Compatibility mode
>     DMA: channel(s) 5 6 7
>         16-bit, not a bus master, , count by word, Compatibility mode
>     I/O Range 0x220 .. 0x280, alignment 0x20, len 0x10
>         [16-bit addr]
>     I/O Range 0x300 .. 0x330, alignment 0x30, len 0x2
>         [16-bit addr]
> TAG Start DF
> Acceptable Configuration
>     IRQ: 5 7 10  - only one type (true/edge)
>     DMA: channel(s) 0 1 3
>         8-bit, not a bus master, count by byte, , Compatibility mode
>     DMA: channel(s) 5 6 7
>         16-bit, not a bus master, , count by word, Compatibility mode
>     I/O Range 0x220 .. 0x280, alignment 0x20, len 0x10
>         [16-bit addr]
> TAG Start DF
> Acceptable Configuration
>     IRQ: 5 7 10  - only one type (true/edge)
>     DMA: channel(s) 0 1 3
>         8-bit, not a bus master, count by byte, , Compatibility mode
>     I/O Range 0x220 .. 0x280, alignment 0x20, len 0x10
>         [16-bit addr]
>     I/O Range 0x300 .. 0x330, alignment 0x30, len 0x2
>         [16-bit addr]
>     I/O Range 0x388 .. 0x388, alignment 0x1, len 0x4
>         [16-bit addr]
> TAG Start DF
> Acceptable Configuration
>     IRQ: 5 7 10  - only one type (true/edge)
>     DMA: channel(s) 0 1 3
>         8-bit, not a bus master, count by byte, , Compatibility mode
>     I/O Range 0x220 .. 0x280, alignment 0x20, len 0x10
>         [16-bit addr]
>     I/O Range 0x300 .. 0x330, alignment 0x30, len 0x2
>         [16-bit addr]
> TAG Start DF
> Acceptable Configuration
>     IRQ: 5 7 10 11  - only one type (true/edge)
>     DMA: channel(s) 0 1 3
>         8-bit, not a bus master, count by byte, , Compatibility mode
>     I/O Range 0x220 .. 0x280, alignment 0x20, len 0x10
>         [16-bit addr]
> TAG Start DF
> Sub-optimal Configuration
>     IRQ: 5 7 10 11  - only one type (true/edge)
>     DMA: channel(s) 0 1 3
>         8-bit, not a bus master, count by byte, , Compatibility mode
>     DMA: channel(s) 5 6 7
>         16-bit, not a bus master, , count by word, Compatibility mode
>     I/O Range 0x220 .. 0x280, alignment 0x20, len 0x10
>         [16-bit addr]
>     I/O Range 0x300 .. 0x330, alignment 0x10, len 0x2
>         [16-bit addr]
>     I/O Range 0x388 .. 0x394, alignment 0x4, len 0x4
>         [16-bit addr]
> TAG End DF
> 
> Logical Device ID: CTL7fff 0xff7f8c0e #1
> Device Description: Reserved
>     I/O Range 0x140 .. 0x178, alignment 0x8, len 0x1
>         [16-bit addr]
> 
> Logical Device ID: CTL0021 0x21008c0e #2
> Device Description: WaveTable
> TAG Start DF
> Good Configuration
>     I/O Range 0x620 .. 0x620, alignment 0x1, len 0x4
>         [16-bit addr]
> TAG Start DF
> Acceptable Configuration
>     I/O Range 0x620 .. 0x680, alignment 0x20, len 0x4
>         [16-bit addr]
> TAG End DF
> 
> Logical Device ID: CTL7001 0x01708c0e #3
> Device Description: Game
>     I/O Range 0x200 .. 0x200, alignment 0x1, len 0x8
>         [16-bit addr]
> 
> Logical Device ID: CTL0051 0x51008c0e #4
> Device Description: StereoEnhance
>     I/O Range 0x100 .. 0x138, alignment 0x8, len 0x1
>         [16-bit addr]
> End Tag
> 
> Successfully got 68 resources, 5 logical fdevs
> -- card select # 0x0001
> 
> CSN CTL0054 (0x54008c0e), Serial Number 0x081f38bd
> 
> Logical device #0
> IO:  0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000
> IRQ 0 0
> DMA 4 4
> IO range check 0x00 activate 0x00
> 
> Logical device #1
> IO:  0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000
> IRQ 0 0
> DMA 4 4
> IO range check 0x00 activate 0x00
> 
> Logical device #2
> IO:  0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000
> IRQ 0 0
> DMA 4 4
> IO range check 0x00 activate 0x00
> 
> Logical device #3
> IO:  0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000
> IRQ 0 0
> DMA 4 4
> IO range check 0x00 activate 0x00
> 
> Logical device #4
> IO:  0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000
> IRQ 0 0
> DMA 4 4
> IO range check 0x00 activate 0x00
> 
> # dmesg
> Copyright (c) 1992-1998 FreeBSD Inc.
> Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993
>         The Regents of the University of California.  All rights reserved.
> 
> FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE #0: Sat Feb  6 17:41:56 EST 1999
>     cjc@pc232.mydomain.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/PC232
> CPU: Pentium II (quarter-micron) (333.27-MHz 686-class CPU)
>   Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0x650  Stepping=0
>   Features=0x183f9ff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,<b16>,<b17>,MMX,<b24>>
> real memory  = 67108864 (65536K bytes)
> avail memory = 63406080 (61920K bytes)
> Probing for devices on PCI bus 0:
> chip0 <generic PCI bridge (vendor=8086 device=7180 subclass=0)> rev 3 on pci0:0:0
> chip1 <generic PCI bridge (vendor=8086 device=7181 subclass=4)> rev 3 on pci0:1:0
> chip2 <Intel 82371AB PCI-ISA bridge> rev 1 on pci0:7:0
> chip3 <Intel 82371AB IDE interface> rev 1 on pci0:7:1
> chip4 <Intel 82371AB USB interface> rev 1 int d irq 10 on pci0:7:2
> chip5 <Intel 82371AB Power management controller> rev 1 on pci0:7:3
> ahc0 <Adaptec 2940A Ultra SCSI host adapter> rev 1 int a irq 9 on pci0:14:0
> ahc0: aic7860 Single Channel, SCSI Id=7, 3 SCBs
> ahc0 waiting for scsi devices to settle
> ahc0:A:4: refuses synchronous negotiation. Using asynchronous transfers
> (ahc0:4:0): "HP CD-Writer 6020 1.07" type 5 removable SCSI 2
> worm0(ahc0:4:0): Write-Once
> (ahc0:6:0): "iomega jaz 2GB E.15" type 0 removable SCSI 2
> sd0(ahc0:6:0): Direct-Access
> sd0(ahc0:6:0): NOT READY asc:3a,0 Medium not present
> sd0: could not get size
> 
> sd0(ahc0:6:0): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:24,0 Invalid field in CDB
> sd0 could not mode sense (4). Using fictitious geometry
> 0MB (0 512 byte sectors)
> fxp0 <Intel EtherExpress Pro 10/100B Ethernet> rev 5 int a irq 11 on pci0:15:0
> fxp0: Ethernet address 00:90:27:22:fe:b8
> Probing for devices on PCI bus 1:
> vga0 <VGA-compatible display device> rev 1 int a irq 9 on pci1:0:0
> Probing for devices on the ISA bus:
> sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard
> sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0>
> sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa
> sio0: type 16550A
> sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa
> sio1: type 16550A
> lpt0 at 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa
> lpt0: Interrupt-driven port
> lp0: TCP/IP capable interface
> psm0 at 0x60-0x64 irq 12 on motherboard
> psm0: model IntelliMouse, device ID 3
> fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa
> wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa
> wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): <IBM-DHEA-38451>
> wd0: 8063MB (16514064 sectors), 16383 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S
> wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa
> wdc1: unit 0 (atapi): <FX320S/q01>, removable, intr, dma, iordis
> wcd0: 5512KB/sec, 256KB cache, audio play, 255 volume levels, ejectable tray
> wcd0: no disc inside, unlocked
> wdc1: unit 1 (atapi): <LS-120 COSM   02              UHD Floppy/0271C09T>, removable, iordy
> wfd0: medium type unknown (no disk)
> sb0 not found at 0x220
> sbxvi0 not found
> sbmidi0 not found at 0x330
> npx0 flags 0x1 on motherboard
> npx0: INT 16 interface
> 
> # more /sys/i386/conf/PC232
> #
> # PC232
> #
> # For more information read the handbook part System Administration ->
> # Configuring the FreeBSD Kernel -> The Configuration File.
> # The handbook is available in /usr/share/doc/handbook or online as
> # latest version from the FreeBSD World Wide Web server
> # <URL:http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/>
> #
> # An exhaustive list of options and more detailed explanations of the
> # device lines is present in the ./LINT configuration file. If you are
> # in doubt as to the purpose or necessity of a line, check first in LINT.
> #
> # CJC, 2/2/99
> 
> machine         "i386"
> cpu             "I686_CPU"
> ident           "PC232"
> maxusers        32
> 
> options         INET                    #InterNETworking
> options         FFS                     #Berkeley Fast Filesystem
> options         NFS                     #Network Filesystem
> options         MSDOSFS                 #MSDOS Filesystem
> options         "CD9660"                #ISO 9660 Filesystem
> options         PROCFS                  #Process filesystem
> options         "COMPAT_43"             #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!]
> options         SCSI_DELAY=10           #Be pessimistic about Joe SCSI device
> options         BOUNCE_BUFFERS          #include support for DMA bounce buffers
> options         UCONSOLE                #Allow users to grab the console
> options         FAILSAFE                #Be conservative
> 
> config          kernel  root on wd0
> 
> controller      isa0
> controller      eisa0
> controller      pci0
> 
> controller      fdc0    at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio irq 6 drq 2 vector fdintr
> disk            fd0     at fdc0 drive 0
> 
> #
> # IDE Devices:
> 
> options         ATAPI           #Enable ATAPI support for IDE bus
> options         ATAPI_STATIC    #Don't do it as an LKM
> 
> controller      wdc0    at isa? port "IO_WD1" bio irq 14 vector wdintr
> disk            wd0     at wdc0 drive 0
> 
> controller      wdc1    at isa? port "IO_WD2" bio irq 15 vector wdintr
> device          wcd0            #IDE CD-ROM
> device          wfd0            #IDE floppy (LS-120)
> 
> #
> # SCSI Devices:
> # A single entry for any of these controllers (ncr, ahb, ahc, amd) is
> # sufficient for any number of installed devices.
> #
> controller      ahc0            #Adaptec 274x/284x/294x
> controller      scbus0 at ahc0
> 
> device          cd0     #Only need one of these, the code dynamically grows
> device          worm0   at scbus?  # SCSI worm
> 
> #
> # Sound card support (SoundBlaster 16bit)
> controller      snd0
> device          sb0     at isa? port 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 vector sbintr
> device          sbxvi0  at isa? drq 5
> device          sbmidi0 at isa? port 0x330
> 
> # Mandatory, don't remove
> device          npx0    at isa? port "IO_NPX" flags 0x1 irq 13 vector npxintr
> 
> #
> # PCI devices
> device          apm0    at isa? disable # Advanced Power Management
> options         APM_BROKEN_STATCLOCK    # Workaround some buggy APM BIOS
> 
> #
> # Standard devices:
> #
> # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console
> device          sc0     at isa? port "IO_KBD" tty irq 1 vector scintr
> # serial ports
> device          sio0    at isa? port "IO_COM1" tty irq 4 vector siointr
> device          sio1    at isa? port "IO_COM2" tty irq 3 vector siointr
> # conflicting with soundcard?
> # device        sio2    at isa? disable port "IO_COM3" tty irq 5 vector siointr
> # device        sio3    at isa? disable port "IO_COM4" tty irq 9 vector siointr
> # parallel (printer) ports
> device          lpt0    at isa? port? tty irq 7 vector lptintr
> # PS/2 mouse device
> device          psm0    at isa? port "IO_KBD" conflicts tty irq 12 vector psmintr
> 
> #
> # The `fxp' device provides support for the Intel EtherExpress Pro/100B
> # PCI Fast Ethernet adapters.
> device fxp0
> 
> #
> # Network interfaces:
> #  The `loop' pseudo-device is MANDATORY when networking is enabled.
> #  The `ether' pseudo-device provides generic code to handle
> #  Ethernets; it is MANDATORY when a Ethernet device driver is
> #  configured.
> #  The `bpfilter' pseudo-device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter.  Be
> #  aware of the legal and administrative consequences of enabling this
> #  option.  The number of devices determines the maximum number of
> #  simultaneous BPF clients programs runnable.
> #
> pseudo-device   loop            #Network loopback device
> pseudo-device   ether           #Generic Ethernet
> pseudo-device   bpfilter 4      #Berkeley packet filter
> 
> #
> # Misc Devices:
> # Of these, only the `log' device is truly mandatory.  The `pty'
> # device usually turns out to be ``effectively mandatory'', as it is
> # required for `telnetd', `rlogind', `screen', `emacs', and `xterm',
> # among others.
> # If you wish to run certain
> # system utilities which are compressed by default (like /stand/sysinstall)
> # then `gzip' becomes mandatory too.
> #
> pseudo-device   log             #Kernel syslog interface (/dev/klog)
> pseudo-device   vn      1       #Vnode driver (turns a file into a device)
> pseudo-device   pty     16      #Pseudo ttys - can go as high as 256
> pseudo-device   gzip            #Exec gzipped a.out's
> 
> #
> # KTRACE enables the system-call tracing facility ktrace(2).
> # This adds 4 KB bloat to your kernel, and slightly increases
> # the costs of each syscall.
> # options               KTRACE          #kernel tracing
> 
> #
> # This provides support for System V shared memory.
> options         SYSVSHM
> 
> --
> Crist J. Clark                           cjclark@home.com
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"Crist J. Clark" wrote:
> 
> Stan Brown wrote,
> >       i am preparing to set up amchine to boot FreeBSD, Windows98, and NT. I
> >       intendt to have a fairly latge common disk slice. So the question si
> >       which of the folowing filesystems can FreeBSD read/write?
> >
> >       FAT32
> >       FAT16
> 
> All of the FATxx's are supported by enabling the MSDOSFS option in the
> kernel (enabled by default). All can do read/writes. FreeBSD will
> determine whether a mounted MSDOS filesystem is 16 or 32 on its
> own; it is transparent to the user.
> 
> >       NTFS
> 
> At present, I believe there is a read-only module for NTFS. See,
> 
> http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~markov/ntfs_install.html
> 

You need to be careful though. My doc is 2.2.x specific, the original
poster is running 3.0. The source for 3.x is available from the same
place but I can't guarantee that it's built the same way.

BTW, I checked the URL of the source yesterday and there was a message
saying that it had been added to the 3.x source tree :-)


> >       Thanks.
> >
> >       Oh BTW it will be a 3.0 FreebSD machine, if that matters.
> 
> These all work on 3.x and 2.2.x.
> 
> IMHO, you are best off with one of the FAT's. I do not believe Win98
> can handle NTFS can it?
> --
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Don't use test as your output binary.  There is a system program called
test, and if you have . in you path, you may not figure out why your
program is not working.

Tom Veldhouse
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On Sat, 6 Feb 1999, Crist J. Clark wrote:

> Keith Anderson wrote,
> > HI All,
> > 
> > Below I have a very simple 'c' program but I can't make it work !! What am I
> > doing wrong, it will not compile?
> > 
> > Any help would be great 
> > 
> > Thanks 
> > 
> > Keith
> > 
> > <snip test.c>
> > #include <math.h>
> > 
> > main ()
> > {
> > double x = 64;
> > double ans;
> > ans = sqrt(x);
> > 
> > printf("ans = %lf\n",ans);
> > 
> > }
> > 
> > </snip test.c>
> > 
> > keith@wis~>cc test.c
> > /var/tmp/ccV145121.o: Undefined symbol `_sqrt' referenced from text segment
> 
> Type,
> 
> % cc -lm test.c -o test
> 
> This includes the math libraries. It is standard accross most UNICies.
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>From what I can tell, it looks as if XFree86 supports the Neomagic
2160 chip which is used in the Libretto 110CT, so it looks as if
running FreeBSD and XFree86 on this system is actually a possibility?

Has anyone done this already?

I'm not on this mailing list, so please respond to me directly.  I'll
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I've been looking for this everywhere, what would be the proper
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Doesn't seem to deal well with the -a[uto size] option either...

Too bad dump defaults to huge reel-to-reel tapes... :)

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Paul Foss wrote,
> I'm a newbie with FreeBSD, but I've spent numerous hours attempting to figure this out.  I have an Intel EtherExpress ISA network card that was working fine under windoze on irq9.  According to the documentation, this card should be supported under the generic kernel, but it isn't listed in sysinstall.  I therefore concluded that I would need to build a kernel.  I have done this, and I'm getting an error "ioconf.o Undefinedsymbol _ixdriver referenced from data segment.  My exact syntex is:
> device ix0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd0000

Where in the documentation did you see this? There is no device 'ix0'
in the LINT kernel. Are you sure it is not a PCI card? In which case
it is in the GENERIC kernel,

device fxp0

That is the card supported by the GENERIC kernel.

> It seems reasonable to me that the driver just isn't in the system.  Am I correct?  Would it be somewhere on one of the cd's?  (I purchased the 4 cd set - Free BSD 2.2.8)   Any options other than just purchasing another card?

If is an ISA card, I do not know what the prognosis is. You might look
at the cards that are listed as ISA devices and try to see if one
shares a driver with yours (basically, hope someone just forgot to
list it).

> Thank you so much for your help!

I hope it is of some help. But one other small point, your paragraphs
are all on a single line. This is due to the fact you are using
Outlook, a broken MUA. See,

http://http://www.lemis.com/email.html
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If he actually wants MIDI to work, suggesting that he use the pcm
driver is exceedingly poor advice.

Clearly, this is a PnP card, but the pnp0 device is not in the
kernel config.  Try adding:

controller      pnp0

to the kernel config file, and rebuild the kernel.

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> 
> "Crist J. Clark" wrote:
> > 
> > A cow-orker is bugging me to get the sound working on a computer. (I
> > personally find sound on computers more of an annoyance than of any
> > use, but the computer's got a sub-woofer (!?!) and the works.) The
> > card is a SoundBlaster 16-bit. There is stuff about MIDI support in
> > the manual, but I have not been able to decide if it's saying the card
> > has MIDI support or they are giving me work-arounds (MIDI
> > emulation). Anyway, that is beside the point; the computer does not
> > seem to see the card at all at boot time as these lines from 'dmesg'
> > indicate,
> > 
> > sb0 not found at 0x220
> > sbxvi0 not found
> > sbmidi0 not found at 0x330
> > 
> 
> Try the pcm driver instead.

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On Sunday,  7 February 1999 at  2:39:34 +0000, Mark Ovens wrote:
> Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote:
>>
>> Mark Ovens <marko@uk.radan.com> writes:
>>> I've made a small enhancement to csh(1) and want to submit it. Reading
>>> the handbook it says to include patches in the PR (in the FIX section).
>>> What is the best way to do this? Copying and pasting into the browser
>>> will trash TABs, converting them to spaces, so the patch won't work,
>>> unless it's applied with the ``-l'' option.
>>
>> The browser? What browser? Use send-pr and your editor's "include
>> file" command (:r filename<RET> in vi, C-x i filename<RET> in Emacs)
>
> Ah, come on, give me a break, this is the first time I've done this.
>
> I said I'm going to have to do it on-line on the Website, which means
> using a browser. I know how to include a file in vi, but doesn't send-pr
> use sendmail? which I haven't got installed. My only concern is that if
> I enter the diffs by copying & pasting then the TABS will be converted
> to spaces so the patches won't work (without the ``-l'' option).

Hmm.  Doing this with a browser is really rather like sending a boy on
a man's job.  Losing tabs is not such a crisis, but losing line breaks
is, and both browsers and Microsoft's toy mailers like to do that.
This might be a good time to think about setting up mail on your
FreeBSD box.  It's not difficult.  If you can't do that, send me the
text of the PR and ftp the file to ftp://ftp.lemis.com/incoming/, and
I'll do it for you.

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Hi all,

Getting ready to build a server and need to know if I can use FreeBSD as =
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know if this will work.

CPU, motherboard & case (N440BX-BX):
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   FreeBSD
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On Saturday,  6 February 1999 at 21:10:23 -0800, Hpyrep wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Getting ready to build a server and need to know if I can use
> FreeBSD as the OS.

It would be nice to know what you want to serve.

> I've added the server hardware configuration below, if you would let
> me know if this will work.
>
> CPU, motherboard & case (N440BX-BX):
>    Dual Intel PentiumII 450MHz with MMX, Full Tower Server case
> Operating System:
>    FreeBSD

To take advantage of both processors, you'd need FreeBSD 3.0 or
better.  3.1 will be released in a couple of weeks; I'd recommend
that.

> Memory:
>    128 MB 100MHz SD-RAM ECC 16x72 (x 4)

Depending on what you're serving, this might be a little light for the
CPUs.

> Storage Options:
>    6.5 GB Seagate Ultra SCSI (x 4)
>    Adaptec PCI UltraWide SCSI controller
>    UltraWide SCSI cable
>    Mylex AccellerRAID (200 or 250)

Is this a SCSI-SCSI controller or a bus-connected RAID controller?  If
it's the latter, we don't support it.

> Video:
>    2 MB PCI Trio 64-bit with MPEG support

You don't normally need MPEG support on a server.  Are you planning
anything special?

> Keyboard & mouse:
>    Premium Windows 98 Keyboard

Not a keyboard I would recommend.  But it'll work.

> CD/DVD ROM 32x EIDE
> Audio: None
> Modem:
>    DSL modem and NIC (1-2  512kb connections)

This should work fine with FreeBSD.  I can't make any statement about
performance because I don't know what you're planning to do with it.

Greg
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I'm a newbie to UNIX, and was wondering: I have a spare pentium system
laying around, and am going to set it up fully freeBSD or Turbolinux.
Which would you personally recommend? Also, any books and other docs
that might help me out? I am going to get deep into programming. Which
computer language would you recommend me study?  Thanks a million in
advance!
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MrChevy wrote:
> 
> I'm a newbie to UNIX, and was wondering: I have a spare pentium system
> laying around, and am going to set it up fully freeBSD or Turbolinux.
> Which would you personally recommend? Also, any books and other docs
> that might help me out? I am going to get deep into programming. Which
> computer language would you recommend me study?  Thanks a million in
> advance!
> Brandon Combs
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AKK!! This was on my 3.0-stable console:

ahc0:A:0: no active SCB for reconnecting target - issuing BUS DEVICE RESET
SAVED_TCL == 0x0, ARG_1 == 0x15, SEQ_FLAGS == 0x40
ahc0: Bus Device Reset on A:0. 2 SCBs aborted
(da0:ahc0:0:0:0): READ(10). CDB: 28 0 0 65 eb ff 0 0 10 0 
(da0:ahc0:0:0:0): ABORTED COMMAND asc:4e,0
(da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Overlapped commands attempted
(da0:ahc0:0:0:0): READ(06). CDB: 8 a 91 3f 10 0 
(da0:ahc0:0:0:0): ABORTED COMMAND asc:4e,0
(da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Overlapped commands attempted
(da0:ahc0:0:0:0): READ(10). CDB: 28 0 0 37 a8 4f 0 0 8 0 
(da0:ahc0:0:0:0): ABORTED COMMAND asc:4e,0
(da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Overlapped commands attempted
spec_getpages: I/O read failure: (error code=5)
               size: 4096, resid: 4096, a_count: 4096, valid: 0x0
               nread: 0, reqpage: 0, pindex: 0, pcount: 1
vm_fault: pager read error, pid 100 (syslogd)
(da0:ahc0:0:0:0): READ(06). CDB: 8 0 0 6f c 0 
(da0:ahc0:0:0:0): ABORTED COMMAND asc:4e,0
(da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Overlapped commands attempted
(da0:ahc0:0:0:0): READ(06). CDB: 8 1 0 6f c 0 
(da0:ahc0:0:0:0): ABORTED COMMAND asc:4e,0
(da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Overlapped commands attempted
(da0:ahc0:0:0:0): READ(06). CDB: 8 0 0 6f c 0 
(da0:ahc0:0:0:0): ABORTED COMMAND asc:4e,0
(da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Overlapped commands attempted
(da0:ahc0:0:0:0): READ(06). CDB: 8 2 0 6f c 0 
(da0:ahc0:0:0:0): ABORTED COMMAND asc:4e,0
(da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Overlapped commands attempted
pid 100 (syslogd), uid 0 on /: out of inodes
pid 100 (syslogd), uid 0: exited on signal 11
ahc0:A:0: no active SCB for reconnecting target - issuing BUS DEVICE RESET
SAVED_TCL == 0x0, ARG_1 == 0x1c, SEQ_FLAGS == 0x40
ahc0: Bus Device Reset on A:0. 18 SCBs aborted


what does it mean??

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Hi,

On Sat, 6 Feb 1999, hodeleri wrote:

> I get the above message whenever I try to run Linux binaries.  The
> machine is running 3.0-RELEASE, which was binary upgraded from
> 2.2.2-RELEASE.  

brandelf -t Linux some_executable

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I followed the directions at
http://www.neosoft.com/~conrads/awepnp-freebsd.txt on 3.0-stable

sb0 at 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 on isa
snd0: <SoundBlaster 16 4.13> 
sbxvi0 at drq 5 on isa
snd0: <SoundBlaster 16 4.13> 
sbmidi0 at 0x330 on isa
snd0: <SoundBlaster MPU-401> 
opl0 at 0x388 on isa
snd0: <Yamaha OPL3 FM> 
awe0 at 0x620 on isa
awe0: <SoundBlaster EMU8000 MIDI (RAM2048k)>


Quake1/2 can't seem to use /dev/dsp correctly (they start up and pretend
to use it but no sound comes out, before I installed the drivers they'd
complain)

I can 'cat *.au > /dev/audio' or 'cat *.au > /dev/dsp' and it
works (with a quiet high pitched noise after it's done playing that
doesn't seem to stop!)

I tried a few midi programs but nothing comes out.

Any suggestions?

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MrChevy wrote:
> 
> I'm a newbie to UNIX, and was wondering: I have a spare pentium system
> laying around, and am going to set it up fully freeBSD or Turbolinux.
> Which would you personally recommend? Also, any books and other docs
> that might help me out? I am going to get deep into programming. Which
> computer language would you recommend me study?  Thanks a million in
> advance!
> Brandon Combs

You've asked a question that is partly religious and partly technical in
nature.  The answers will vary in the first part based on who likes what
and what they believe in.  I can only give you my views.  The second
part is much less equivocal.

BSD is morally superior to Linux on all counts.  It is not merely free
of charge, it is intellectually and spiritually free.  The code is there
and you can do with it as you please, without restriction.  If you use
Linux, it is under the Free Software Foundations "Gnu Public License"
that most of us partial to BSD call the "Gnu Public Virus."  It is an
effort to encumber all software, steal everyone's ideas, and looks more
like the Bill Gates Empirical Plan than Bill Gates own monopoly does. 
This requires some explanation.

If you use some Gnu-licensed software, you are REQUIRED, under penalty
of criminal and civil prosecution, to publish the source without cost
beyond distribution charges.  It substitutes the KGB of Stalin and the
Death Camps of Hitler with the guns and powers of US Copyright law. 
Anything you do with Gnu never again belongs to you.  It is not a
statement of "live free or die!" it is, rather, a statement of "give to
us or the power of the state will kill/incarcerate or at least bankrupt
you with legal fees."

The license is cleverly drawn, but it is every bit as evil, morally, as
anything Bill Gates has ever done in ruining competitors.  It is nearly
akin to declaring that the software industry itself, that any profit
made from any software, is inherently evil.

Thus "FreeBSD" like its close siblings Net and Open BSD, really are free
in more ways than you don't have to pay to get them.  If you are
inspired by this software, and want to use some of it to make more,
there is only one requirement -- credit the Regents Of the University Of
California for their contributions, and then do what you will with your
stuff.  Did you make something people are willing to pay for?  Fine,
sell it if you can.  Most of us prefer to contribute back to the
Berkeley License, always aware that we don't "taint" our right to our
own ideas and our own work if we find it commercially useful at a later
date.  The BSD license is one of absolute intellectual freedom.

BSD variants, be they NetBSD, FreeBSD or OpenBSD, are technically
superior in my opinion, and FreeBSD is the best of all distributions for
personal computers simply because FreeBSD, unlike Net or Open, tends to
concentrate on the Intel platform and PC hardware.  NetBSD is great if
you have an old Sun and don't want Sun's encumbered mess.  OpenBSD is
great if you similarly have unusual non-PC hardware and are concentrated
on security issues.

FreeBSD leads through its general excellence of distributions.  BSD
networking has always been better than anyone's, hands down.  Linux is a
pale shadow of BSD by comparison, and the security of ANY BSD variant is
always superior to the security of any Linux variant.

I tried Linux before I settled on FreeBSD.  Red Hat, Caldera, Debian,
Slackware -- I went through all the major distributions.  FreeBSD wins
just in package quality hands down.  And, unlike Linux, I don't have to
be a practicing communist in order to draw from, contribute to, or muck
around with the code base.

My vote is FreeBSD.  It's treated me better than anything else, and so
help me, I actually like it better than Microsoft's best.

All the BSD folks, and I've met some from the NetBSD and OpenBSD crowd,
are quality people, good to know, good to hang out with.

Having said all of that, I'll say all of this.  UNIX and its derivatives
are not for everyone.  I've been programming since I was a kid as a
hobby and professionally since 1978.  There are times when I have to do
a lot of reading of documentation, and still don't quite find all the
answers I'm looking for, and need to wade through some source code to
see what is going on.  

Unlike Windows, there is nobody to hold your hand.  On the other hand,
because source is available, there is this unbelievable freedom to
configure things any way you please, to set them up any way you please.
Even if you don't program, there is enough data out there, and the
programs are so inherently configurable, that a little legwork will,
without recompiling or touching a line of code, give you pretty much
anything you heart desires in network setups, or even in the way you
configure your desktop.

FreeBSD lets you have it your way.

Whatever your choice, good luck.

Frank

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References: <19990205165618.A3426@cpl.net> <19990205210413E.wghicks@wghicks.bellsouth.net> <19990205185853.A25808@cpl.net>
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For the same price, get a Netgear. They work nicely and are supported
by, IIRC, the ar0 driver (?).

Jamie

On Fri, Feb 05, 1999 at 06:58:53PM -0800, Shawn Ramsey wrote:
> > I believe that it's based on a DEC 21143 which isn't completely 
> > working for many operating systems.
> > 
> > It has material differences from the 21140 chip.  Compaq/DEC
> > *should* have changed the version number as much since it is
> > causing quite a bit of confusion among developers and users
> > alike.
> 
> Hmm, well luckily it was only one card. So I simply just swapped an Intel
> from a Windows machine. Anyone know if support for this card will happen
> soon? For $29, I'd rather use these than Intel's as long as support was
> decent. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Hello, I am having a problem running "make world." It runs fine for a
few minutes and then I encounter some error messages and it stops. I am
updating my source tree with cvsup and I am updating to current. Along
with this message I have attached the output of the section of "make
world" where I have the error. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks for your time.


Marc Smith

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>>> Rebuilding bootstrap libraries
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cd /usr/src; PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/home/mercury/bin:/usr/local/bin BISON_SIMPLE=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/share/misc/bison.simple  COMPILER_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/libexec:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin  GCC_EXEC_PREFIX=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib/  LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib  LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib NOEXTRADEPEND=t  OBJFORMAT_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/libexec:/usr/libexec /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin/make DESTDIR=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp -f Makefile.inc1 bootstrap-libraries
cd /usr/src/lib/csu/i386-elf;  /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin/make -DNOINFO -DNOMAN -DNOPIC -DNOPROFILE -DNOSHARED cleandepend;  /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin/make -DNOINFO -DNOMAN -DNOPIC -DNOPROFILE -DNOSHARED all;  /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin/make -DNOINFO -DNOMAN -DNOPIC -DNOPROFILE -DNOSHARED -B install cleandir obj
rm -f .depend /usr/obj/usr/src/lib/csu/i386-elf/GPATH /usr/obj/usr/src/lib/csu/i386-elf/GRTAGS  /usr/obj/usr/src/lib/csu/i386-elf/GSYMS /usr/obj/usr/src/lib/csu/i386-elf/GTAGS
cc -O -pipe -elf -Wall -Wno-unused -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/lib/csu/i386-elf/crt1.c -o crt1.o
cc -O -pipe -elf -Wall -Wno-unused -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/lib/csu/i386-elf/crtbegin.c -o crtbegin.o
/usr/src/lib/csu/i386-elf/crtbegin.c:30: section attributes are not supported for this target
/usr/src/lib/csu/i386-elf/crtbegin.c:31: section attributes are not supported for this target
{standard input}: Assembler messages:
{standard input}:73: Error: Unknown pseudo-op:  `.section'
*** Error code 1

Stop.
*** Error code 1

Stop.
*** Error code 1

Stop.
*** Error code 1

Stop.
*** Error code 1

Stop.

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