Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 11:21:50 -0400 From: Natty Rebel <dervish@ikhala.tcimet.net> To: David Kelly <dkelly@HiWAAY.net> Cc: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Subject: Re: choice of a new SCSI drive? Message-ID: <19990620112150.A19967@ikhala.tcimet.net> In-Reply-To: <199906180215.VAA43581@nospam.hiwaay.net>; from David Kelly on Thu, Jun 17, 1999 at 09:15:09PM -0500 References: <199906180215.VAA43581@nospam.hiwaay.net>
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Quoting David Kelly (dkelly@HiWAAY.net): > Not much discussion here lately of what is going on in the SCSI market. > Ordered a new MB today, an Asus P2B-S, with onboard Adaptec 7890 and > 3860 after checking the archives confirming others have run same. MB was > cheaper than an Adaptec 2940U2W PCI card by itself from most vendors. > Only $200 more than the SCSI-less (but one PCI slot more) P2B-F. > > Is the 3860 an LVD "SCSI bridge" Adaptec uses to separate LVD and single > ended, and run both on the same bus? Am downloading Asus' 11MB PDF > manual at this moment so I might be answering my own question in a > moment. A long moment at 28.8k. > > Would favor IBM or Seagate drives over anything else based on past > performance. Actually less on performance performance and more on > reliability performance. I don't want a 10k drive, partly for the noise. > Partly for the heat. Would favor cool and quiet, as long as its > reliable. > > Changed employers recently. Seems at my old job all my HD bookmarks > listed LVD drives for less than non-LVD. That doesn't appear to be the > case. Then after hearing it mentioned here and confirming it on IBM's > site, it appears most LVD drives can fall back into single-ended mode? > So maybe the market has wizened up learning they can use the latest LVD > on the old controllers? > > A prime candidate HD for my new MB is at: > http://www.onsale.com/category/inv/00037892/01605738.htm > > The is an "IBM ULTRASTAR 18ES 9.1GB HD U2SCSI 68-PIN 7200RPM LVD". For > $350 (includes UPS ground shipping) it appears to be a good value. Just to add more fuel to the fire, www.hypermicro.com has the same drive for $289.00. Someone else has mentioned them before on one of the lists and so far I haven't found anyone that beats their price. I have not purchased anything from them yet, but if I recall the person who mentioned them had no complaints. I just went to a show in my area (East Lansing, MI) and some of the vendors were approaching hypermicros prices (the price difference was $20 - $40) Again this is FYI ... > > Among other nice things it has a 2MB cache. A nasty thing about Onsale/ > AtCost is one can't get a straight answer as to the product's warranty, > they link you to phone numbers where you can call the manufacturer and > ask. IBM lists 5 years for over-the-counter drives. Seagate is well > known for two warranty tiers, over-the-counter, and OEM. The OEM product > is only warranted to the OEM. Its gotten so bad Seagate now has a serial > number checker on their web site. > > A good thing about Onsale is I've dealt with them before and don't > believe they would simply pocket my credit card number and jump across > the border. A bad thing is all my credit cards have sent me those awful > addendums stating they won't go to battle for me against the vendor if > the purchase was made over 100 miles from my billing address. > > For my purposes, LVD is overkill. But I sorta feel like treating myself > to something excessive at the moment. > > Ay pointers to sources of internal LVD cables and terminators? Some > vendors advertise the drives prominently but forget about the > essentials. > > > -- > David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net > ===================================================================== > The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its > capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. > #:^) -- natty rebel harder than the rest ... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message
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