From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jan 17 23:56:25 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA05743 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 23:56:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from localhost (gserver.com [209.180.80.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA05738 for ; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 23:56:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from surfchina@gserver.com) Received: (surfchina@localhost) by gserver.com (8.8.8) id BAA00882; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 01:01:08 -0700 (MST) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 01:01:08 -0700 (MST) From: surfchina@gserver.com (Surf China) Message-Id: <199901180801.BAA00882@gserver.com> To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: SurfChina.com - Search Engine for China Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dear friend, Do you ever wonder where to find information about China? Well, wonder no more. Come check out SurfChina.com (http://www.surfchina.com), the BEST SEARCH ENGINE for China. SurfChina.com's database consists of thousands of China, Chinese related web sites, all sites are carefully categorized into over 300 categories, which makes search very easy. New sites and categories are added everyday. You can find Chinese companies, Chinese culture sites, travel agencies, employment opportunities, Chinese newspapers, and much, much more. Take a look for yourself, and tell a friend about SurfChina.com, so everyone can take advantage of this wonderful resource. SurfChina.com also provides China statistical information service. We work directly with the State Statistical Bureau of China to provide the latest, the most accurate, and most authritative China statistical data for our clients. To find out more about this service, please visit http://www.surfchina.com/stats/ Sincerely yours, SurfChina.com team To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jan 18 02:04:15 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA20198 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 02:04:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA20154 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 02:04:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from talon@lpthe.jussieu.fr) Received: from parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr [134.157.10.1]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.9.1a/jtpda-5.3.1) with ESMTP id LAA17711 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 11:04:00 +0100 (CET) Received: from niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr [134.157.10.41]) by parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (8.9.1a/jtpda-5.2) with ESMTP id LAA00859 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 11:04:00 +0100 (MET) From: talon@lpthe.jussieu.fr (Michel TALON) Received: from (talon@localhost) by niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (8.8.8/jtpda-5.1) id LAA11129 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 11:04:00 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <199901181004.LAA11129@niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr> Subject: linux emulation To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 11:04:00 +0100 (CET) Lab: L.P.T.H.E. Universite Paris VI, Tour 16, 1 etage Tel: 44 27 41 05 Fax: (33) 1 44 27 70 88 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have problems with linux emulation of programs compiled under libc6 under FreeBSD 2.2.8-stable. This happens with simple programs not using /proc or clone(). I have installed the port linux_lib-2.6. My old programs using libc5 like Maple continue to work without problem. Now any new program compiled on a Linux Redhat 5.2 machine and working on such machine immediately core dump on the FreeBSD box with sigsev. I have ktraced them and read with linux_kdump. I see correct invocations of the libc6 and the loader: 8580 tree NAMI "/compat/linux/lib/libc.so.6" 8580 tree NAMI "/compat/linux" 8580 tree NAMI "/compat/linux/lib/libc.so.6" 8580 tree RET linux_open 3 8580 tree CALL read(0x3,0xefbfc558,0x1000) 8580 tree NAMI "/compat/linux/lib/ld-linux.so.2" 8580 tree NAMI "/compat/linux" 8580 tree NAMI "/compat/linux/lib/ld-linux.so.2" 8580 tree RET linux_open 3 8580 tree CALL read(0x3,0xefbfc558,0x1000) then a call to getpid as under linux with strace: 8580 tree CALL getpid 8580 tree RET getpid 8580/0x2184 8580 tree PSIG SIGSEGV SIG_DFL 8580 tree NAMI "tree.core" and the program dies without ever beginning execution. Is this a known bug or am i doing something wrong? Thanks -- Michel TALON To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jan 18 02:24:37 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA22126 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 02:24:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from localhost (gserver.com [209.180.80.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA22056 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 02:24:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from surfchina@gserver.com) Received: (surfchina@localhost) by gserver.com (8.8.8) id DAA11316; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 03:28:54 -0700 (MST) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 03:28:54 -0700 (MST) From: surfchina@gserver.com (Surf China) Message-Id: <199901181028.DAA11316@gserver.com> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: SurfChina.com - Search Engine for China Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dear friend, Do you ever wonder where to find information about China? Well, wonder no more. Come check out SurfChina.com (http://www.surfchina.com), the BEST SEARCH ENGINE for China. SurfChina.com's database consists of thousands of China, Chinese related web sites, all sites are carefully categorized into over 300 categories, which makes search very easy. New sites and categories are added everyday. You can find Chinese companies, Chinese culture sites, travel agencies, employment opportunities, Chinese newspapers, and much, much more. Take a look for yourself, and tell a friend about SurfChina.com, so everyone can take advantage of this wonderful resource. SurfChina.com also provides China statistical information service. We work directly with the State Statistical Bureau of China to provide the latest, the most accurate, and most authritative China statistical data for our clients. To find out more about this service, please visit http://www.surfchina.com/stats/ Sincerely yours, SurfChina.com team To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jan 18 02:49:17 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA24547 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 02:49:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gatekeeper.tsc.tdk.com (gatekeeper.tsc.tdk.com [207.113.159.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA24542 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 02:49:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gdonl@tsc.tdk.com) Received: from sunrise.gv.tsc.tdk.com (root@sunrise.gv.tsc.tdk.com [192.168.241.191]) by gatekeeper.tsc.tdk.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA22733; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 02:49:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gdonl@tsc.tdk.com) Received: from salsa.gv.tsc.tdk.com (salsa.gv.tsc.tdk.com [192.168.241.194]) by sunrise.gv.tsc.tdk.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA10285; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 02:48:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gdonl@localhost) by salsa.gv.tsc.tdk.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA05923; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 02:48:57 -0800 (PST) From: Don Lewis Message-Id: <199901181048.CAA05923@salsa.gv.tsc.tdk.com> Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 02:48:57 -0800 In-Reply-To: "Kent S. Harris" "setpgid(2) doesn't work as advertised" (Jan 16, 11:56am) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.6 alpha(3) 7/19/95) To: "Kent S. Harris" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: setpgid(2) doesn't work as advertised Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Jan 16, 11:56am, "Kent S. Harris" wrote: } Subject: setpgid(2) doesn't work as advertised } I believe the manual is correct and the kernel code is wrong. Frequently } in industrial situations, an "area controller" process on a particular } CPU will spawn a number of sub-processes that perform various tasks } such as control special devices. One of the tasks of the "area } controller" is to reap its children and re-spawn them should they } unexpectedly abort. } } So far no problem. However, in a situation where the "area controller" } aborts and is restarted (usually manually), it may want to reclaim its } original children to the process group so it can once again reap } the SIGCHLD signals. To do so it must insert the children into } its new process group via setpgrp. No can do. When a process exits, the SIGCHLD is sent to its parent process, whether they are in the same process group or not. If the parent exits first, then its child processes are inherited by the init process (process 1). There is no way for another process to reclaim them. --- Truck To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jan 18 07:59:39 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA27621 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 07:59:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from idea.co.uk (ultra2.idea.co.uk [194.36.20.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA27614 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 07:59:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kiril@idea.co.uk) Received: from kiril.idea.co.uk (kiril [194.36.20.51]) by idea.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id PAA12333 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 15:57:24 GMT Received: by kiril.idea.co.uk with Microsoft Mail id <01BE42FB.87AEB1B0@kiril.idea.co.uk>; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 15:59:29 -0000 Message-ID: <01BE42FB.87AEB1B0@kiril.idea.co.uk> From: Kiril Mitev To: "stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: RE: SurfChina.com - Search Engine for China Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 15:59:26 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ahem, Is freebsd-stable moderated ?? ---------- From: Surf China Sent: Monday, January 18, 1999 8:01 AM To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: SurfChina.com - Search Engine for China Dear friend, Do you ever wonder where to find information about China? Well, wonder no more. Come check out SurfChina.com (http://www.surfchina.com), the BEST SEARCH ENGINE for China. SurfChina.com's database consists of thousands of China, Chinese related web sites, all sites are carefully categorized into over 300 categories, which makes search very easy. New sites and categories are added everyday. You can find Chinese companies, Chinese culture sites, travel agencies, employment opportunities, Chinese newspapers, and much, much more. Take a look for yourself, and tell a friend about SurfChina.com, so everyone can take advantage of this wonderful resource. SurfChina.com also provides China statistical information service. We work directly with the State Statistical Bureau of China to provide the latest, the most accurate, and most authritative China statistical data for our clients. To find out more about this service, please visit http://www.surfchina.com/stats/ Sincerely yours, SurfChina.com team To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jan 18 09:30:01 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA08967 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 09:30:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za [146.64.24.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA08917 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 09:29:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhay@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za) Received: (from jhay@localhost) by zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA09893; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 19:29:30 +0200 (SAT) From: John Hay Message-Id: <199901181729.TAA09893@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za> Subject: Re: SurfChina.com - Search Engine for China In-Reply-To: <01BE42FB.87AEB1B0@kiril.idea.co.uk> from Kiril Mitev at "Jan 18, 99 03:59:26 pm" To: kiril@idea.co.uk (Kiril Mitev) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 19:29:30 +0200 (SAT) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Ahem, > > Is freebsd-stable moderated ?? Uhm, do I hear someone volunteer? :-) It is more than just a 24x7x365 job. I don't think it is really feasable for any of the FreeBSD lists, except if you can set majordomo to allow mail from subscribers directly through and only moderate mail from unsubscribed people and even then I think you will have trouble finding people to man the moderation posts. John -- John Hay -- John.Hay@mikom.csir.co.za To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jan 18 09:33:19 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA09260 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 09:33:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from soho.london.virgin.net (soho.london.virgin.net [194.168.38.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA09255 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 09:33:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from scot@london.virgin.net) Received: from kirk.london.virgin.net (kirk.london.virgin.net [194.168.38.227]) by soho.london.virgin.net (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA23794; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 17:33:12 GMT (envelope-from scot@london.virgin.net) Received: from localhost (scot@localhost) by kirk.london.virgin.net (8.9.1b+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA21621; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 17:33:09 GMT (envelope-from scot@london.virgin.net) X-Authentication-Warning: kirk.london.virgin.net: scot owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 17:33:09 +0000 (GMT) From: Scot Elliott To: John Hay cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SurfChina.com - Search Engine for China In-Reply-To: <199901181729.TAA09893@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG You can set a list of valid senders in Majordomo - what happens if you set this to be the name of the list file? Scot. On Mon, 18 Jan 1999, John Hay wrote: > > Ahem, > > > > Is freebsd-stable moderated ?? > > Uhm, do I hear someone volunteer? :-) It is more than just a 24x7x365 > job. I don't think it is really feasable for any of the FreeBSD lists, > except if you can set majordomo to allow mail from subscribers > directly through and only moderate mail from unsubscribed people and > even then I think you will have trouble finding people to man the > moderation posts. > > John > -- > John Hay -- John.Hay@mikom.csir.co.za > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jan 18 09:41:47 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA10250 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 09:41:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from flarn.it.ca (flarn.it.ca [199.45.111.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA10245 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 09:41:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from paul@flarn.it.ca) Received: (from paul@localhost) by flarn.it.ca (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA17197; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 12:42:10 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from paul) From: Paul Chvostek Message-Id: <199901181742.MAA17197@flarn.it.ca> Subject: Re: SurfChina.com - Search Engine for China In-Reply-To: <199901181729.TAA09893@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za> from John Hay at "Jan 18, 1999 7:29:30 pm" To: jhay@mikom.csir.co.za (John Hay) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 12:42:10 -0500 (EST) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: Paul Chvostek X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Quoth John Hay: > > Ahem, > > > > Is freebsd-stable moderated ?? > > Uhm, do I hear someone volunteer? :-) It is more than just a 24x7x365 > job. I don't think it is really feasable for any of the FreeBSD lists, > except if you can set majordomo to allow mail from subscribers > directly through and only moderate mail from unsubscribed people and > even then I think you will have trouble finding people to man the > moderation posts. That will help. but it won't stop people *dedicated* spammers who want to reach the list. On the other hand, it will help to identify the spammers, so they can more easily be blacklisted. What about adding something to the charter of the list that states that "off-topic commercial bulk mail which the list administrator(s) feel is obviously classifiable as spam will be cause for immediate removal from the list, and may result in a request for inclusion in the MAPS RBL. If you are unfamiliar with the MAPS RBL, visit http://maps.vix.com/rbl/. If you ignore this, then you waive your right to whine about it later." Something like that could be added to all the lists here. It would be a quick and easy policy adoption, and would probably take up less of our time than discussing each individual piece of spam that hits one of the lists. -- Paul Chvostek Operations / Development vox: +1 416 598 0000 IT Canada http://www.it.ca/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jan 18 09:47:20 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA10885 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 09:47:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from postoffice.mr.net (dialup.MR.Net [137.192.180.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA10876 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 09:47:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cjoseph@mr.net) Received: by postoffice.mr.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA02108 at Mon, 18 Jan 1999 11:47:12 -0600 (CST) SMTP "HELO" = riogrande.mr.net But _really_ from riogrande.MR.Net [137.192.192.73] SMTP "MAIL FROM" = cjoseph@mr.net SMTP "RCPT TO" = Received: by riogrande.mr.net (8.8.8/8.7.2) with SMTP id LAA22585 at Mon, 18 Jan 1999 11:47:12 -0600 (CST) SMTP "HELO" = localhost But _really_ from cjoseph@localhost SMTP "MAIL FROM" = cjoseph@mr.net SMTP "RCPT TO" = Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 11:47:12 -0600 (CST) From: Chris Josephes To: Scot Elliott cc: John Hay , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SurfChina.com - Search Engine for China In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 18 Jan 1999, Scot Elliott wrote: > You can set a list of valid senders in Majordomo - what happens if you set > this to be the name of the list file? Then you'd have to subscribe to the list if you wanted to even ask a simple question. It works, but it's a hassel. I'd say that any time a host sends a spam to the list, it is blocked at the majordomo level (or maybe even the SMTP level) from ever sending email to freebsd.org again. One tip I've liked is always blocking mail from dialup hostnames, like *.da.uu.net or *.dial-access.att.net. It works 99% of the time because most legit email goes through the user's SMTP host. -- _______________ Chris Josephes __/ MRNet \ chrisj@mr.net __/ http://www.mr.net/ \________________/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jan 18 10:27:04 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA15478 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 10:27:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from foobar.franken.de (foobar.franken.de [194.94.249.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA15473 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 10:26:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from logix@foobar.franken.de) Received: (from logix@localhost) by foobar.franken.de (8.8.8/8.8.5) id TAA03312; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 19:25:59 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <19990118192558.A3233@foobar.franken.de> Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 19:25:58 +0100 From: Harold Gutch To: Paul Chvostek , John Hay Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SurfChina.com - Search Engine for China References: <199901181729.TAA09893@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za> <199901181742.MAA17197@flarn.it.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <199901181742.MAA17197@flarn.it.ca>; from Paul Chvostek on Mon, Jan 18, 1999 at 12:42:10PM -0500 X-Organisation: BatmanSystemDistribution X-Mission: To free the world from the Penguin Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jan 18, 1999 at 12:42:10PM -0500, Paul Chvostek wrote: > What about adding something to the charter of the list that states that > "off-topic commercial bulk mail which the list administrator(s) feel is > obviously classifiable as spam will be cause for immediate removal from > the list, and may result in a request for inclusion in the MAPS RBL. If > you are unfamiliar with the MAPS RBL, visit http://maps.vix.com/rbl/. > If you ignore this, then you waive your right to whine about it later." > > Something like that could be added to all the lists here. It would be a > quick and easy policy adoption, and would probably take up less of our > time than discussing each individual piece of spam that hits one of the > lists. > With the exception of the "vixie maps" part, the general charter already says that on http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/handbook351.html#704 "Advertising of non-FreeBSD related products or services is strictly prohibited and will result in an immediate ban if it is clear that the offender is advertising by spam." -- bye, logix Sleep is an abstinence syndrome wich occurs due to lack of caffein. Wed Mar 4 04:53:33 CET 1998 #unix, ircnet To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jan 18 12:53:38 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA09077 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 12:53:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hp9000.chc-chimes.com (hp9000.chc-chimes.com [206.67.97.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA09059 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 12:53:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from billf@chc-chimes.com) Received: from localhost by hp9000.chc-chimes.com with SMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA230091665; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 10:01:05 -0500 Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 10:01:04 -0500 (EST) From: Bill Fumerola To: Chris Josephes Cc: Scot Elliott , John Hay , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SurfChina.com - Search Engine for China In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 18 Jan 1999, Chris Josephes wrote: > Then you'd have to subscribe to the list if you wanted to even ask a > simple question. It works, but it's a hassel. The list(s) in question aren't a "I have a question"-type lists. -questions should be open post, but the majority of the other lists would do well to close doors to subscribers only. - bill fumerola - billf@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfumerol@computerhorizons.com - billf@FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jan 18 15:20:33 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA29933 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 15:20:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from germanium.xtalwind.net (germanium.xtalwind.net [205.160.242.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA29928 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 15:20:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jack@germanium.xtalwind.net) Received: from localhost (jack@localhost) by germanium.xtalwind.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id SAA12106; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 18:20:20 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 18:20:19 -0500 (EST) From: jack To: Bill Fumerola cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SurfChina.com - Search Engine for China In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 18 Jan 1999, Bill Fumerola wrote: > -questions should be open post, but the majority of the other lists would > do well to close doors to subscribers only. s/the majority of// -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jack O'Neill Systems Administrator / Systems Analyst jack@germanium.xtalwind.net Crystal Wind Communications, Inc. Finger jack@germanium.xtalwind.net for my PGP key. PGP Key fingerprint = F6 C4 E6 D4 2F 15 A7 67 FD 09 E9 3C 5F CC EB CD enriched, vcard, HTML messages > /dev/null -------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jan 18 15:53:49 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA03601 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 15:53:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zogbe.tasam.com (zogbe.tasam.com [198.232.144.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA03592 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 15:53:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from clash@tasam.com) Received: from bug (bug.tasam.com [205.252.239.241]) by zogbe.tasam.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id SAA03279; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 18:53:18 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from clash@tasam.com) Message-ID: <003b01be433d$b2facec0$f1effccd@bug.tasam.com> From: "Joe Gleason" To: "jack" , "Bill Fumerola" Cc: Subject: Re: SurfChina.com - Search Engine for China Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 18:53:01 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I find the signal to noise ratio on all the freebsd lists I am on to be quite good. I don't think spam and random junk to the list is a common enough occerance to worry about. Joe Gleason Tasam >On Mon, 18 Jan 1999, Bill Fumerola wrote: > >> -questions should be open post, but the majority of the other lists would >> do well to close doors to subscribers only. > >s/the majority of// > >-------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Jack O'Neill Systems Administrator / Systems Analyst >jack@germanium.xtalwind.net Crystal Wind Communications, Inc. > Finger jack@germanium.xtalwind.net for my PGP key. > PGP Key fingerprint = F6 C4 E6 D4 2F 15 A7 67 FD 09 E9 3C 5F CC EB CD > enriched, vcard, HTML messages > /dev/null >-------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jan 18 16:02:48 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA04732 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 16:02:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from wopr.caltech.edu (wopr.caltech.edu [131.215.240.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA04724 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 16:02:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mph@wopr.caltech.edu) Received: (from mph@localhost) by wopr.caltech.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA23410; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 16:02:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mph) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 16:02:33 -0800 From: Matthew Hunt To: jack Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SurfChina.com - Search Engine for China Message-ID: <19990118160233.A23252@wopr.caltech.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: ; from jack on Mon, Jan 18, 1999 at 06:20:19PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jan 18, 1999 at 06:20:19PM -0500, jack wrote: > > -questions should be open post, but the majority of the other lists would > > do well to close doors to subscribers only. > > s/the majority of// No, that is a bad substitution. freebsd-ports needs to accept ports-related suggestions, bug reports, etc. from any interested party. Similarly for -www, -committers, and -doc at least. And, for the millionth time, unless you handle things very cleverly, closing posting to subscribers only is going to annoy a lot of people who submit messages from various addresses. -- Matthew Hunt * Stay close to the Vorlon. http://www.pobox.com/~mph/pgp.key for PGP public key 0x67203349. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jan 18 16:13:27 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA08360 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 16:13:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ntsrvr.willametteweb.com (dns1.onlinemac.com [204.200.26.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA08355 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 16:13:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mdis29a@onlinemac.com) Received: from pt171.onlinemac.com (pt171.onlinemac.com [204.203.48.223]) by ntsrvr.onlinemac.com (NTMail 3.03.0018/1.ac1f) with ESMTP id ja249037 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 16:14:40 -0800 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990118161325.007f13f0@onlinemac.com> X-Sender: mdis29a@onlinemac.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 16:13:25 -0800 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Matt Distefano Subject: Re: SurfChina.com - Search Engine for China In-Reply-To: <003b01be433d$b2facec0$f1effccd@bug.tasam.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Well, I think that having access to information about China could be a serious benefit to converting more users to FreeBSD... I mean, they could teach us a thing or two about advocacy over there in China... :P /* '' */ /* :: "would you give me a chance? :: Matt Distefano - Jennifer Ever */ /* :: i know what you are.. :: [. mdis29a@onlinemac.com .] */ /* :: cus i saw you on tv..." :: #wiltedrose (DAL.net) */ Your source for news, and other informative rants: 4 boxes, 1 lump each - http://4boxes.freeservers.com Deathly Ill Publications: http://dip.cjb.net Web print, audio - since 1993 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jan 18 17:06:30 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA13985 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 17:06:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mecca.servint.com (mecca.servint.com [209.50.225.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA13979 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 17:06:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from loschert@servint.com) Received: from localhost (loschert@localhost) by mecca.servint.com (8.8.5/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA08269 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 20:11:36 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 20:11:36 -0500 (EST) From: Matt Loschert To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Schedule for 3.0-stable ? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Has any decision been made as to when 3.0 development will branch -stable? I have tentatively heard Q1 '99, but I am wondering if anything more specific has been decided? Matt Loschert To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jan 18 18:43:43 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA26827 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 18:43:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pop.uniserve.com (pop.uniserve.com [204.244.156.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA26820 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 18:43:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from shell.uniserve.ca [204.244.186.218] by pop.uniserve.com with smtp (Exim 1.82 #4) id 102R8e-0007js-00; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 18:43:32 -0800 Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 18:43:29 -0800 (PST) From: Tom X-Sender: tom@shell.uniserve.ca To: Matt Loschert cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Schedule for 3.0-stable ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 18 Jan 1999, Matt Loschert wrote: > Has any decision been made as to when 3.0 development will branch -stable? > I have tentatively heard Q1 '99, but I am wondering if anything more > specific has been decided? There is a very specific schedule. I'm not going to repeat it here, because www.freebsd.org has done a good job of it in the Announcements section. Also, see Jordon's detailed postings in the archives (also at www.freebsd.org). > Matt Loschert Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jan 18 18:43:45 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA26842 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 18:43:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from flarn.it.ca (flarn.it.ca [199.45.111.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA26823 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 18:43:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from paul@flarn.it.ca) Received: (from paul@localhost) by flarn.it.ca (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA28391; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 21:44:22 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from paul) From: Paul Chvostek Message-Id: <199901190244.VAA28391@flarn.it.ca> Subject: Re: SurfChina.com - Search Engine for China In-Reply-To: <003b01be433d$b2facec0$f1effccd@bug.tasam.com> from Joe Gleason at "Jan 18, 1999 6:53: 1 pm" To: clash@tasam.com (Joe Gleason) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 21:44:22 -0500 (EST) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: Paul Chvostek X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Quoth Joe Gleason: > I find the signal to noise ratio on all the freebsd lists I am on to be > quite good. > I don't think spam and random junk to the list is a common enough occerance > to worry about. I don't buy that. How many off-topic commercial posts will you tolerate on the list before you consider it a problem? If it exists at a small scale, the opportunity exists for it to exist at a large scale. If we can come up with a way of avoiding posts like this when they're infrequent enough not to be excessively annoying, then we can avoid the escalation altogether. But this is off-topic for this list. Perhaps we should start a list for it. freebsd-abuse, anyone? -- Paul Chvostek Operations / Development vox: +1 416 598 0000 IT Canada http://www.it.ca/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jan 18 18:58:43 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA28933 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 18:58:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mecca.servint.com (mecca.servint.com [209.50.225.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA28928 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 18:58:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from loschert@servint.com) Received: from localhost (loschert@localhost) by mecca.servint.com (8.8.5/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA09678; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 22:03:32 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 22:03:32 -0500 (EST) From: Matt Loschert To: Tom cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Schedule for 3.0-stable ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 18 Jan 1999, Tom wrote: > There is a very specific schedule. I'm not going to repeat it here, > because www.freebsd.org has done a good job of it in the Announcements > section. Also, see Jordon's detailed postings in the archives (also at > www.freebsd.org). Don't I feel like an idiot. I had been skimming the Announcements section of the site and skipped the critical Dec. 28 announcement. My fault. Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jan 18 21:17:42 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA16317 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 21:17:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from inet1.g5.co.za (mail.g5.co.za [196.38.184.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA16284 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 21:17:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chrisb@g5.co.za) Received: from IS99_CBEDFORD ([192.6.1.85]) by inet1.g5.co.za with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.1960.3) id C6DA3XVT; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 07:19:12 +0200 Received: by IS99_CBEDFORD with Microsoft Mail id <01BE437B.8C27A780@IS99_CBEDFORD>; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 07:15:52 +-200 Message-ID: <01BE437B.8C27A780@IS99_CBEDFORD> From: Christopher Bedford To: "'freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG'" Subject: RE: SurfChina.com - Search Engine for China Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 07:15:50 +-200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id VAA16301 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG How about just mail-bombing this person? Replies to this address do not bounce, so I've got to assume there is a mailbox by this name. Or doesn't this get the message across any more? ---------- From: Surf China[SMTP:surfchina@gserver.com] Sent: 18 January 1999 5:28 am To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: SurfChina.com - Search Engine for China Dear friend, Do you ever wonder where to find information about China? Well, wonder no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jan 18 23:00:14 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA26729 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 23:00:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from piggy.kharkiv.net (piggy.kharkiv.net [194.44.156.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA26624 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 22:59:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from news@piggy.kharkiv.net) Received: (from news@localhost) by piggy.kharkiv.net for ; ; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 08:59:07 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from news) To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Schedule for 3.0-stable ? Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 08:59:00 +0200 Message-ID: <36A42D34.66FF4AF8@kharkiv.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: piggy.kharkiv.net 916729146 151 194.44.156.50 (19 Jan 1999 06:59:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@news.kharkiv.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 19 Jan 1999 06:59:06 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.8-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: Russian, ru, en X-Via: News-To-Mail v1.0 From: "Newsgate" Reply-To: "Vadim V. Chepkov" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --> Use Reply-To: for answer to "Vadim V. Chepkov" Tom wrote: > > On Mon, 18 Jan 1999, Matt Loschert wrote: > > > Has any decision been made as to when 3.0 development will branch -stable? > > I have tentatively heard Q1 '99, but I am wondering if anything more > > specific has been decided? > > There is a very specific schedule. I'm not going to repeat it here, > because www.freebsd.org has done a good job of it in the Announcements > section. Also, see Jordon's detailed postings in the archives (also at > www.freebsd.org). > Hi! In Announcements 3.0-stable sheduled on January, 15. But when I trayed to use tag RELENG_3_0 I didn't get anything (only all sources of 3.0-RELEASE were cleaned :-( ) -- Kind regards, Vadim V. Chepkov ------------------------------------------------------ Vadim V. Chepkov, Kharkiv State Polytechnic University 13 Frunze Str., Kharkiv, Ukraine, 310002 phone: +380 572 400478 fax: +380 572 400592 e-mail: vvc@kharkiv.net http://www.kharkiv.net/~vvc ------------------------------------------------------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jan 19 00:12:29 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA02590 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 00:12:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA02584 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 00:12:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA39711; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 00:06:45 -0800 (PST) To: "Vadim V. Chepkov" cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Schedule for 3.0-stable ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 19 Jan 1999 08:59:00 +0200." <36A42D34.66FF4AF8@kharkiv.net> Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 00:06:45 -0800 Message-ID: <39707.916733205@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > In Announcements 3.0-stable sheduled on January, 15. But when I trayed > to use tag RELENG_3_0 I didn't get anything (only all sources of > 3.0-RELEASE were cleaned :-( ) As announced on the 14th, the date was pushed to the 20th. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jan 19 00:41:41 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA04845 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 00:41:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from www.transfar.com ([202.103.100.248]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA04837 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 00:41:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bs@www.transfar.com) Received: from www.transfar.com ([202.103.100.243]) by www.transfar.com (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with ESMTP id AAA5161; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 16:32:58 +0800 Message-ID: <36A4B5A4.EBF495B1@www.transfar.com> Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 16:41:08 +0000 From: Bright Sea X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matt Distefano CC: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SurfChina.com - Search Engine for China References: <3.0.5.32.19990118161325.007f13f0@onlinemac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Matt Distefano wrote: > Well, I think that having access to information about China could be a > serious benefit to converting more users to FreeBSD... I mean, they could > teach us a thing or two about advocacy over there in China... :P > I am chinese and lives in china,but I don't like the ways of mailing advertising to FreeBSD mailing list. I really like using FreeBSD and I have using it for about two years. More and more people in china become to pay close attention to the development of FreeBSD. :-) B.S. > /* '' */ > /* :: "would you give me a chance? :: Matt Distefano - Jennifer Ever */ > /* :: i know what you are.. :: [. mdis29a@onlinemac.com .] */ > /* :: cus i saw you on tv..." :: #wiltedrose (DAL.net) */ > > Your source for news, and other informative rants: > 4 boxes, 1 lump each - http://4boxes.freeservers.com > > Deathly Ill Publications: http://dip.cjb.net > Web print, audio - since 1993 > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jan 19 04:50:44 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA03224 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 04:50:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA03219 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 04:50:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from talon@lpthe.jussieu.fr) Received: from parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr [134.157.10.1]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.9.1a/jtpda-5.3.1) with ESMTP id NAA09406 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 13:50:36 +0100 (CET) Received: from niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr [134.157.10.41]) by parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (8.9.1a/jtpda-5.2) with ESMTP id NAA18988 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 13:50:36 +0100 (MET) From: talon@lpthe.jussieu.fr (Michel TALON) Received: from (talon@localhost) by niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (8.8.8/jtpda-5.1) id NAA13109 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 13:50:36 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <199901191250.NAA13109@niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr> Subject: Linux emulation To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 13:50:36 +0100 (CET) Lab: L.P.T.H.E. Universite Paris VI, Tour 16, 1 etage Tel: 44 27 41 05 Fax: (33) 1 44 27 70 88 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Here is the solution to the problem: :I have problems with linux emulation of programs compiled under :libc6 under FreeBSD 2.2.8-stable. This happens with simple programs not :using /proc or clone(). I have installed the port linux_lib-2.6. :My old programs using libc5 like Maple continue to work without problem. : :Now any new program compiled on a Linux Redhat 5.2 machine and working :on such machine immediately core dump on the FreeBSD box with sigsev. : The solution is to delete ld-linux.so.1 in /usr/compat/linux/lib and ln -s ld-linux.so.2 ld-linux.so.1 After that libc5 and libc6 programs work correctly. This problem may appear after upgrading an old FreeBSD installation. -- Michel TALON To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jan 19 07:04:08 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA06326 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 07:04:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ocean.aldridge.com (ocean.aldridge.com [206.180.139.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA06171 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 07:04:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dlac@aldridge.com) Received: from aldridge.com (america.aldridge.com [206.180.139.33]) by ocean.aldridge.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA15958; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 09:03:31 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <36A49EC2.BC17B419@aldridge.com> Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 09:03:30 -0600 From: "David L. Aldridge" Organization: The Aldridge Company X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Chvostek CC: Joe Gleason , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SurfChina.com - Search Engine for China References: <199901190244.VAA28391@flarn.it.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It is bad enough that a piece of spam noise hit our list. The real noise is coming from people who can't get over it and just use the Del key. May we please move this list back to subject matter? No response to this post is requested. :+ Dave Paul Chvostek wrote: > > Quoth Joe Gleason: > > I find the signal to noise ratio on all the freebsd lists I am on to be > > quite good. > > I don't think spam and random junk to the list is a common enough occerance > > to worry about. > > I don't buy that. How many off-topic commercial posts will you tolerate > on the list before you consider it a problem? If it exists at a small > scale, the opportunity exists for it to exist at a large scale. If we > can come up with a way of avoiding posts like this when they're > infrequent enough not to be excessively annoying, then we can avoid the > escalation altogether. > > But this is off-topic for this list. Perhaps we should start a list > for it. freebsd-abuse, anyone? > > -- > Paul Chvostek > Operations / Development vox: +1 416 598 0000 > IT Canada http://www.it.ca/ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- David L. Aldridge The Aldridge Company 281.368.0166 (fax: 281.368.0381) http://www.aldridge.com/ Powered by Pentium/FreeBSD/Apache - Because it works. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jan 19 07:14:33 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA14338 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 07:14:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from news.third-rail.net (mail2.third-rail.net [208.153.2.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA14319 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 07:14:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from psion@geekspace.com) Received: from geekspace.com ([208.154.207.42]) by news.third-rail.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO205-101c) ID# 0-44653U100L2S100) with ESMTP id AAA52 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 10:10:59 -0500 Message-ID: <36A4A10E.569FFB29@geekspace.com> Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 10:13:18 -0500 From: Chris Williams X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ARGH! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I feel like I'm being smurfed. 1 piece of relatively inoffensive SPAM has generated 15 or 20 off-topic messages. Somebody needs to come up with a way to keep this from happening, I've seen it happen on virtually every list I subscribe to, that the outraged responses to spam generate 10x as much useless traffic as the actual spam.. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jan 19 07:19:37 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA15417 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 07:19:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA15412 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 07:19:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cy@cschuber.net.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.9.1/8.8.8) id HAA00909; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 07:19:29 -0800 Received: from cschuber.net.gov.bc.ca(142.31.240.113), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda00907; Tue Jan 19 07:19:07 1999 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) id HAA05339; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 07:19:05 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199901191519.HAA05339@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdhJ5335; Tue Jan 19 07:18:38 1999 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 Reply-to: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-OS: FreeBSD X-Sender: cy To: Chris Williams cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ARGH! In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 19 Jan 1999 10:13:18 EST." <36A4A10E.569FFB29@geekspace.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 07:18:36 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Why don't people take the discussion (SurfChina.com) to FreeBSD-chat. Isn't that what it's for? Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Open Systems Group Internet: Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca ITSD Cy.Schubert@gems8.gov.bc.ca Province of BC In message <36A4A10E.569FFB29@geekspace.com>, Chris Williams writes: > I feel like I'm being smurfed. 1 piece of relatively inoffensive SPAM > has generated 15 or 20 off-topic messages. Somebody needs to come up > with a way to keep this from happening, I've seen it happen on virtually > every list I subscribe to, that the outraged responses to spam generate > 10x as much useless traffic as the actual spam.. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jan 19 13:19:28 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA08536 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 13:19:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nhj.nlc.net.au (nhj.nlc.net.au [203.24.133.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA08527 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 13:19:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from john.saunders@nlc.net.au) Received: (qmail 27982 invoked by uid 1000); 20 Jan 1999 08:19:18 +1100 From: "John Saunders" Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 08:19:18 +1100 (EST) To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Kernel PPP tty-level buffer overflows Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Does anybody know how to fix the following. > XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX kernel log messages: > > sio0: 815 more tty-level buffer overflows (total 4715) > > sio0: 3093 more tty-level buffer overflows (total 7808) System is... FreeBSD XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX 2.2.8-STABLE FreeBSD 2.2.8-STABLE #0: Sat Jan 16 13:49:15 EST 1999 root@XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX:/usr/src/sys/compile/MONSTER i386 Modem info is... Device: /dev/cuaa0 dmesg: sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa dmesg: sio0: type 16550A speed: 115200bps carrier: Jan 20 07:02:47 XXX chat[888]: CARRIER 54000 Cheers. -- +------------------------------------------------------------+ . | John Saunders - mailto:john@nlc.net.au (EMail) | ,--_|\ | - http://www.nlc.net.au/ (WWW) | / Oz \ | - 02-9489-4932 or 041-822-3814 (Phone) | \_,--\_/ | NHJ NORTHLINK COMMUNICATIONS - Supplying a professional, | v | and above all friendly, internet connection service. | +------------------------------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jan 19 13:42:51 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA10969 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 13:42:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from natsoft.com.au (natsoft.com.au [203.39.138.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA10959 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 13:42:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from craig@natsoft.com.au) Received: from Win95.natsoft.com.au (Win95 [203.39.138.131]) by natsoft.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA12210 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 08:46:40 GMT Message-ID: <36A4FC86.16F5@natsoft.com.au> Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 08:43:34 +1100 From: Craig Wilson Organization: National Software Pty Ltd X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE with ThunderLAN Network Adapter Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have installed FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE onto a clients Compaq Pentium with a Compaq (ThunderLAN) Network adapter. After a day of network usage the network hung. A ping from the server to another computer on the network resulted in the error: ping: sendto: No buffer space available ping: sendto: No buffer space available The commands: ifconfig tl0 down ifconfig tl0 up freed up the network and all was ok. On investigating the problem database I found kern/6694 which indicates the same problem, with which the answer was that there was a problem with the ep driver, and that increasing NMBCLUSTERS was a workaround. If this was increased will I still eventually run out of buffers and still require the ifconfig commands? Is it possible that there is a problem with the tl driver? Any help would be most appreciated, and thanks for a great operating system.. Thanks in advance. Craig Wilson National Software Pty Ltd To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jan 19 13:52:29 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA12189 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 13:52:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from guepardo.vicosa.com.br (guepardo.tdnet.com.br [200.236.148.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA12177 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 13:52:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grios@netshell.vicosa.com.br) Received: from netshell.vicosa.com.br [200.236.148.197] by guepardo.vicosa.com.br with ESMTP (SMTPD32-4.03) id A0B8B160100; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 19:01:28 +03d00 Message-ID: <36A4FDEC.FCA639B2@netshell.vicosa.com.br> Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 19:49:32 -0200 From: Gustavo Vieira G C Rios X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: x11amp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, i am running 2.2.8-stable, i am playing mp3 using amp. When i decide to get x11amp i have the following err mesg on my console: Sorry: read DMA Channel unavailable but the play normaly. What is this error mesg ? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jan 19 13:59:53 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA13062 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 13:59:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA13048 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 13:59:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id UAA11030; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 20:46:16 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199901191946.UAA11030@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: x11amp To: grios@netshell.vicosa.com.br (Gustavo Vieira G C Rios) Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 20:46:15 +0100 (MET) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <36A4FDEC.FCA639B2@netshell.vicosa.com.br> from "Gustavo Vieira G C Rios" at Jan 19, 99 07:49:13 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Hi, i am running 2.2.8-stable, i am playing mp3 using amp. When i decide > to get x11amp i have the following err mesg on my console: > > Sorry: read DMA Channel unavailable > but the play normaly. > > What is this error mesg ? an erroneous msg... ignore it. cheers luigi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jan 20 00:28:54 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA24170 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 00:28:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from relay.ucb.crimea.ua (relay.ucb.crimea.ua [212.110.138.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA23761 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 00:25:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ru@ucb.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by relay.ucb.crimea.ua (8.9.2/8.9.2/UCB) id KAA19523; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 10:19:36 +0200 (EET) Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 10:19:36 +0200 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: John Saunders Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Kernel PPP tty-level buffer overflows Message-ID: <19990120101936.E16328@ucb.crimea.ua> Mail-Followup-To: John Saunders , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.94.17i In-Reply-To: ; from John Saunders on Wed, Jan 20, 1999 at 08:19:18AM +1100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.8-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Jan 20, 1999 at 08:19:18AM +1100, John Saunders wrote: > Does anybody know how to fix the following. > > > XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX kernel log messages: > > > sio0: 815 more tty-level buffer overflows (total 4715) > > > sio0: 3093 more tty-level buffer overflows (total 7808) > > System is... > > FreeBSD XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX 2.2.8-STABLE FreeBSD 2.2.8-STABLE #0: Sat Jan 16 13:49:15 EST 1999 > root@XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX:/usr/src/sys/compile/MONSTER i386 > > Modem info is... > Device: /dev/cuaa0 > dmesg: sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa > dmesg: sio0: type 16550A > speed: 115200bps > carrier: Jan 20 07:02:47 XXX chat[888]: CARRIER 54000 > Hi! Read the sio(4) manpage, section ``BUGS''. Try to lower down your port's baud rate, say to 57600bps. BR, -- Ruslan Ermilov Sysadmin and DBA of the ru@ucb.crimea.ua United Commercial Bank +380.652.247.647 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jan 20 09:21:26 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA23100 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 09:21:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from obie.softweyr.com ([204.68.178.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA23090 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 09:21:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) Received: from softweyr.com (zaphod.softweyr.com [204.68.178.35]) by obie.softweyr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA10773; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 10:14:31 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) Message-ID: <36A60EF7.53A03129@softweyr.com> Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 10:14:31 -0700 From: Wes =?iso-8859-1?Q?Peters=D4?==?iso-8859-1?Q?=40=21=EA?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?=80?==?iso-8859-1?Q?=EA?==?iso-8859-1?Q?=80=DD=E7?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?=805=EA?==?iso-8859-1?Q?=C0?==?iso-8859-1?Q?=EA?= Organization: Softweyr llc X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.0-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ruslan Ermilov CC: John Saunders , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Kernel PPP tty-level buffer overflows References: <19990120101936.E16328@ucb.crimea.ua> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 20, 1999 at 08:19:18AM +1100, John Saunders wrote: > > Does anybody know how to fix the following. > > > > > XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX kernel log messages: > > > > sio0: 815 more tty-level buffer overflows (total 4715) > > > > sio0: 3093 more tty-level buffer overflows (total 7808) > > Read the sio(4) manpage, section ``BUGS''. > Try to lower down your port's baud rate, say to 57600bps. Or get a 16650 or 16750 based card. I have a dual 16C650 card in my dial-in server, running two Impact IQ ISDN adapters at 115,200 bps, and have had no problems whatsoever. One of these days I'm going to figure out how to crank them up to 230,400 bps. If this is an internal modem, rip it out of your machine and give it to somebody running Winblows who doesn't expect much in the way of throughput. Most internal modems have a flawed pseudo-16550 UART. -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters Softweyr LLC http://www.softweyr.com/~softweyr wes@softweyr.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jan 20 10:41:33 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA01692 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 10:41:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from xxx.video-collage.com (xxx.video-collage.com [209.122.149.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA01657 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 10:41:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mi@video-collage.com) X-Relay-IP:   Received: (from root@localhost) by xxx.video-collage.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id NAA09352 for stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 13:40:24 -0500 (EST) From: Mikhail Teterin Message-Id: <199901201840.NAA09352@xxx.video-collage.com> Subject: something wrong in src/share/mk/Makefile To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 13:40:24 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL48 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The afterinstall target fails because /usr/obj/home/mi/src/tmp/mk (which is what ${DESTDIR}${BINDIR}/mk translates to on my system) is not being created... -mi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jan 20 11:52:51 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA10183 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 11:52:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from vorbis.noc.easynet.net (vorbis.noc.easynet.net [195.40.1.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA10169 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 11:52:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chrisy@vorbis.noc.easynet.net) Received: (qmail 4769 invoked by uid 1943); 20 Jan 1999 19:52:37 -0000 Message-ID: <19990120195237.B25008@flix.net> Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 19:52:37 +0000 From: Chrisy Luke To: Allen Smith , Carl Makin , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Cisco/Intel Ethernet Trunking References: <9901142208.ZM5749@beatrice.rutgers.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <9901142208.ZM5749@beatrice.rutgers.edu>; from Allen Smith on Thu, Jan 14, 1999 at 10:08:04PM -0500 Organization: The Flirble Internet Exchange X-URL: http://www.flix.net/ X-FTP: ftp://ftp.flirble.org/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Allen Smith wrote (on Jan 15): > See ftp://ftp.flirble.org/pub/unix/hacks/FreeBSD/mpath. This work is > still in progress; one thing that would be good for this would be > doing packet output to the least-loaded interface, instead of via the > current round-robin method. When I get time that is certainly one thing that will be an optional feature. MY idea is to measure the current buffered queue length (there is such a thing) - shift by some metric specifyable per next-hop and round-robins the group of the same and smallest number. If the metric is 0, it presets the result of the calc to zero. If all metrics are zero it by inference turns off the load-balancing. This may be coarse, but I'm not sure you'd need finer control. I don't know when I'd do it though - work got real busy recently (*big international lines take a lot of engineering just in person-to- telco time alone - sigh.) Cheers, Chris. -- == chris@easynet.net, chrisy@flix.net, chrisy@flirble.org == Systems Manager for Easynet, part of Easynet Group PLC. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jan 20 13:22:12 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA20359 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 13:22:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.parlez.com (parlez.com [207.44.162.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA20354 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 13:22:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bdv@parlez.com) Received: from parlez.com (132.245.93.76) by mail.parlez.com with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 1.2b2); Wed, 20 Jan 1999 13:31:00 -0800 Message-ID: <36A64900.7D2CF5C@parlez.com> Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 16:22:08 -0500 From: Brian Del Vecchio X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chrisy Luke , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG CC: wolfgang@wsrcc.com Subject: Re: Cisco/Intel Ethernet Trunking References: <9901142208.ZM5749@beatrice.rutgers.edu> <19990120195237.B25008@flix.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Chrisy Luke wrote: > Allen Smith wrote (on Jan 15): > > See ftp://ftp.flirble.org/pub/unix/hacks/FreeBSD/mpath. This work is > > still in progress; one thing that would be good for this would be > > doing packet output to the least-loaded interface, instead of via the > > current round-robin method. > > When I get time that is certainly one thing that will be an optional > feature. MY idea is to measure the current buffered queue length (there > is such a thing) - shift by some metric specifyable per next-hop and > round-robins the group of the same and smallest number. If the metric is > 0, it presets the result of the calc to zero. If all metrics are zero > it by inference turns off the load-balancing. An alternative to consider is to randomly distribute packets across the equal-cost links. This may give you distribution that's as good as or better than any fancy queue-depth metrics. As may have already been discussed here, or may be well-known, the main risk of load sharing (according to my friend Wolfgang) is that you may end up getting TCP segments received out of order. For some implementations of TCP, this will result in segments being discarded and retransmitted, a noticable and detrimental side effect. brian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jan 20 14:28:30 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA26849 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 14:28:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fw.bby.com.au (ns.bby.com.au [192.83.119.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA26844 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 14:28:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by fw.bby.com.au (8.8.8/8.6.9) id JAA28219; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 09:28:04 +1100 (EST) Received: from lightning.itga.com.au(192.168.71.20) via SMTP by fw.bby.com.au, id smtpd028217; Wed Jan 20 22:28:01 1999 Received: from lightning (lightning [192.168.71.20]) by lightning.itga.com.au (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA00466; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 09:28:01 +1100 (EST) Message-Id: <199901202228.JAA00466@lightning.itga.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 From: Gregory Bond To: Brian Del Vecchio Cc: Chrisy Luke , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, wolfgang@wsrcc.com Subject: Re: Cisco/Intel Ethernet Trunking In-reply-to: Your message of Wed, 20 Jan 1999 16:22:08 -0500. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 09:28:01 +1100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > you may end up > getting TCP > segments received out of order. For some implementations of TCP, this will > result > in segments being discarded and retransmitted, a noticable and detrimental > side effect. Any TCP implementation this poor deserves all the bad performance they get. Out-of-order reassembly has been a requirement of TCP stacks since TCP was invented. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jan 20 14:35:04 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA27352 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 14:35:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from capsicum.wsrcc.com (c460058-a.frmt1.sfba.home.com [24.1.65.208]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA27334 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 14:35:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wolfgang@wsrcc.com) Received: (from wolfgang@localhost) by capsicum.wsrcc.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id OAA02878; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 14:34:44 -0800 (PST) From: Wolfgang Rupprecht MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <13990.23043.921555.147980@capsicum.wsrcc.com> Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 14:34:43 -0800 (PST) To: Gregory Bond Cc: Brian Del Vecchio , Chrisy Luke , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Cisco/Intel Ethernet Trunking In-Reply-To: <199901202228.JAA00466@lightning.itga.com.au> References: <199901202228.JAA00466@lightning.itga.com.au> X-Mailer: VM 6.63 under Emacs 19.34.1 Organization: W S Rupprecht Computer Consulting, Fremont CA Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Gregory Bond writes: > > you may end up > > getting TCP > > segments received out of order. For some implementations of TCP, this will > > result > > in segments being discarded and retransmitted, a noticable and detrimental > > side effect. > > Any TCP implementation this poor deserves all the bad performance they get. > Out-of-order reassembly has been a requirement of TCP stacks since TCP was > invented. The problem is not really out-of-order reassembly, but out of order packets triggering the fast-retransmit logic. Basically the receiver sees the out of order packet and thinks a segment has been lost and it retransmits a duplicate ack for the last packet. The transmitter sees the dup ack, figures the next segment has been lost and retransmits that. -wolfgang To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jan 20 14:40:07 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA27827 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 14:40:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from vorbis.noc.easynet.net (vorbis.noc.easynet.net [195.40.1.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA27813 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 14:40:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chrisy@vorbis.noc.easynet.net) Received: (qmail 21200 invoked by uid 1943); 20 Jan 1999 22:39:54 -0000 Message-ID: <19990120223954.E13293@flix.net> Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 22:39:54 +0000 From: Chrisy Luke To: Wolfgang Rupprecht , Gregory Bond Cc: Brian Del Vecchio , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Cisco/Intel Ethernet Trunking References: <199901202228.JAA00466@lightning.itga.com.au> <13990.23043.921555.147980@capsicum.wsrcc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <13990.23043.921555.147980@capsicum.wsrcc.com>; from Wolfgang Rupprecht on Wed, Jan 20, 1999 at 02:34:43PM -0800 Organization: The Flirble Internet Exchange X-URL: http://www.flix.net/ X-FTP: ftp://ftp.flirble.org/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Wolfgang Rupprecht wrote (on Jan 20): > The problem is not really out-of-order reassembly, but out of order > packets triggering the fast-retransmit logic. Basically the receiver > sees the out of order packet and thinks a segment has been lost and it > retransmits a duplicate ack for the last packet. The transmitter sees > the dup ack, figures the next segment has been lost and retransmits > that. Then of course, anyone with lines slow and over utilised enough for it to happen deserves the performance they get. :-) It's not the scenario the idea is intended for. It's been known for a long time weighted or true "load-balancing" at packet level has problems with procotols that depend on any form of fragmentation (like packets). MPP over dialup lines has enough problems - particularly when over multiple access servers. The variance in packet forwarding time and link latency means you get significantly less than the performance gains you would expect. Chris. -- == chris@easynet.net, chrisy@flix.net, chrisy@flirble.org == Systems Manager for Easynet, part of Easynet Group PLC. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jan 20 15:41:12 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA03956 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 15:41:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from guepardo.vicosa.com.br (guepardo.tdnet.com.br [200.236.148.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA03945 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 15:40:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grios@netshell.vicosa.com.br) Received: from netshell.vicosa.com.br [200.236.148.198] by guepardo.vicosa.com.br with ESMTP (SMTPD32-4.03) id AB9D68600EA; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 20:49:49 +03d00 Message-ID: <36A668D4.D92C9E87@netshell.vicosa.com.br> Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 21:37:56 -0200 From: Gustavo Vieira G C Rios X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: BSD-Stable Subject: patch Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG is there any tutorial about how-to apply a patch to the system ? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jan 20 16:10:09 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA07268 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 16:10:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from guepardo.vicosa.com.br (guepardo.tdnet.com.br [200.236.148.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA07154; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 16:09:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grios@netshell.vicosa.com.br) Received: from netshell.vicosa.com.br [200.236.148.196] by guepardo.vicosa.com.br with ESMTP (SMTPD32-4.03) id A276103A0080; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 21:19:02 +03d00 Message-ID: <36A66FAC.8927207@netshell.vicosa.com.br> Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 22:07:08 -0200 From: Gustavo Vieira G C Rios X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: BSD-Stable , BSD-Security Subject: Security Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dear Gentleman, i am running FreeBSD 2.2.8-Stable! i would like to know where can i get a list containning all Security Bug with Bug Fixes! i need this too much once my job is a critical and i am supposed to make a high security system. I would appreciate any help. Thank you for your time and cooperation. Best regards To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jan 20 16:28:04 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA09340 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 16:28:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nhj.nlc.net.au (nhj.nlc.net.au [203.24.133.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA09327 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 16:28:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from john.saunders@nlc.net.au) Received: (qmail 2281 invoked by uid 1000); 21 Jan 1999 11:27:47 +1100 From: "John Saunders" Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 11:27:47 +1100 (EST) To: Wes Peters cc: Ruslan Ermilov , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Kernel PPP tty-level buffer overflows In-Reply-To: <36A60EF7.53A03129@softweyr.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 20 Jan 1999, Wes Peters wrote: > > > > > sio0: 815 more tty-level buffer overflows (total 4715) > > > > > sio0: 3093 more tty-level buffer overflows (total 7808) > > Read the sio(4) manpage, section ``BUGS''. > > Try to lower down your port's baud rate, say to 57600bps. > > Or get a 16650 or 16750 based card. I have a dual 16C650 card > in my dial-in server, running two Impact IQ ISDN adapters at > 115,200 bps, and have had no problems whatsoever. One of these > days I'm going to figure out how to crank them up to 230,400 > bps. It's got nothing to do with the UART, a 16550A can run all day at 115200 under FreeBSD. If the problem was the UART then the error would be "silo overflow". The problem is that the the tty driver is delivering data too quickly for PPP to handle. I'm still convinved that a larger buffer may help, this needs some investigation. The machine is a Pentium 120 with 64MB of RAM, so it's not exactly slow, and it's not swapping. So if it can manage to keep a 10Mbps ethernet saturated why is it having problems with a 115200 com port? And when I'm not FTP'ing stuff to it the ethernet is running around 7% utilization. Anyway running 57600 seems to cure the problem. Cheers. -- +------------------------------------------------------------+ . | John Saunders - mailto:john@nlc.net.au (EMail) | ,--_|\ | - http://www.nlc.net.au/ (WWW) | / Oz \ | - 02-9489-4932 or 041-822-3814 (Phone) | \_,--\_/ | NHJ NORTHLINK COMMUNICATIONS - Supplying a professional, | v | and above all friendly, internet connection service. | +------------------------------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jan 20 16:54:53 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA13340 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 16:54:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from wrath.cs.utah.edu (wrath.cs.utah.edu [155.99.198.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA13323; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 16:54:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from danderse@cs.utah.edu) Received: from torrey.cs.utah.edu (torrey.cs.utah.edu [155.99.212.91]) by wrath.cs.utah.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA20650; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 17:54:40 -0700 (MST) Received: (from danderse@localhost) by torrey.cs.utah.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA85647; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 17:54:39 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from danderse@cs.utah.edu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 17:54:39 -0700 (MST) From: "David G. Andersen" To: Gustavo Vieira G C Rios Cc: BSD-Stable , BSD-Security Subject: Re: Security In-Reply-To: Gustavo Vieira G C Rios's message of Wed, January 20 1999 <36A66FAC.8927207@netshell.vicosa.com.br> References: <36A66FAC.8927207@netshell.vicosa.com.br> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <13990.31322.214055.498707@torrey.cs.utah.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/CERT/advisories has the list of FreeBSD security advisories. Note that that won't guarantee you a "high security" system; to do so, you'll also want to do other things to your system (disabling unnecessary services, setuid programs, etc). Discussions about this can be found in the archives of this list and others (such as bugtraq). There exist some utilities to help you manage setuid programs as well. Please followup all replies to -security. -Dave Lo and Behold, Gustavo Vieira G C Rios said: > Dear Gentleman, > > i am running FreeBSD 2.2.8-Stable! > i would like to know where can i get a list containning all Security Bug > with Bug Fixes! > i need this too much once my job is a critical and i am supposed to make > a high security system. > > I would appreciate any help. > > Thank you for your time and cooperation. > Best regards > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message > -- work: danderse@cs.utah.edu me: angio@pobox.com University of Utah http://www.angio.net/ Computer Science - Flux Research Group To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jan 20 17:02:59 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA14567 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 17:02:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from proxy.lglobus.ru (fly.lglobus.ru [195.34.224.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA14560 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 17:02:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rover@proxy.lglobus.ru) Received: (from rover@localhost) by proxy.lglobus.ru (8.8.8/8.8.5) id FAA00341 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 05:07:06 GMT Message-ID: <19990121050646.A284@lglobus.ru> Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 05:07:05 +0000 From: "Oleg V. Volkov" To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: 2.2.2-RELEASE to 2.2.8-STABLE upgrade Reply-To: fs_rover@lglobus.ru Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@lglobus.ru Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i Organization: -=/ SR 13 /=- Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi! I'm going to upgrade our local 2.2.2-RELEASE system to 2.2.8-STABLE. Is there anything (besides things mentioned in upgrade.txt) that i should be aware of? -- Oleg V. Volkov aka Rover E-mail: rover@lglobus.ru UIN: 11506871 -=/ SR 13 /=- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jan 21 00:56:24 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA06361 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 00:56:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns1.yes.no (ns1.yes.no [195.204.136.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA06334; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 00:56:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eivind@bitbox.follo.net) Received: from bitbox.follo.net (bitbox.follo.net [195.204.143.218]) by ns1.yes.no (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA11292; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 09:56:09 +0100 (CET) Received: (from eivind@localhost) by bitbox.follo.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) id JAA70055; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 09:56:07 +0100 (MET) Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 09:56:07 +0100 From: Eivind Eklund To: Gustavo Vieira G C Rios Cc: BSD-Security Subject: Re: Security Message-ID: <19990121095606.E65259@bitbox.follo.net> References: <36A66FAC.8927207@netshell.vicosa.com.br> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: <36A66FAC.8927207@netshell.vicosa.com.br>; from Gustavo Vieira G C Rios on Wed, Jan 20, 1999 at 10:07:08PM -0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Discussion moved to only security. On Wed, Jan 20, 1999 at 10:07:08PM -0200, Gustavo Vieira G C Rios wrote: > Dear Gentleman, > > i am running FreeBSD 2.2.8-Stable! > i would like to know where can i get a list containning all Security Bug > with Bug Fixes! All security fixes are committed to the source tree; if you really are on -stable (the latest version along RELENG_2_2, at the moment), you should have them all. The only 100% reliable way to find out what has been fixed is 'cvs diff'. Eivind. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jan 21 06:14:41 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA08447 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 06:14:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from europa.salford.ac.uk (europa.salford.ac.uk [146.87.3.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA08441 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 06:14:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Soefian@willow-bank.demon.co.uk) Received: (qmail 8416 invoked by alias); 21 Jan 1999 14:14:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 8404 invoked from network); 21 Jan 1999 14:14:15 -0000 Received: from ame-023.salford.ac.uk (HELO willow-bank.demon.co.uk) (146.87.10.23) by europa.salford.ac.uk with SMTP; 21 Jan 1999 14:14:15 -0000 Message-ID: <36A73664.95001261@willow-bank.demon.co.uk> Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 14:15:01 +0000 From: "Stefan B. Kenway" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: (no subject) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe freebsd-stable subscribe cvs-all To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jan 21 08:01:31 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA19841 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 08:01:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp1.xs4all.nl (smtp1.xs4all.nl [194.109.6.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA19830 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 08:01:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from berend@pobox.com) Received: from auke.nederware.nl (nederware.nl [194.109.55.62]) by smtp1.xs4all.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA18867 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 17:00:26 +0100 (CET) Received: from bmach (bmach.nederware.nl [192.168.33.3]) by auke.nederware.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA05029 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 16:53:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from berend@pobox.com) From: "Berend de Boer" To: Subject: RE: Kernel PPP tty-level buffer overflows Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 16:53:37 +0100 Message-ID: <000001be4556$36a30570$0321a8c0@bmach.nederware.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > It's got nothing to do with the UART, a 16550A can run all > day at 115200 > under FreeBSD. If the problem was the UART then the error > would be "silo > overflow". The problem is that the the tty driver is > delivering data too > quickly for PPP to handle. I run ppp here on a 486/33 with a 1655A at 115200 just very very fine. Groetjes, Berend. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jan 21 09:03:39 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA26932 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 09:03:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail1.doit.wisc.edu (mail1.doit.wisc.edu [144.92.9.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA26925; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 09:03:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gabor@acm.org) Received: from [128.104.216.209] by mail1.doit.wisc.edu id LAA53050 (8.9.1/50); Thu, 21 Jan 1999 11:03:14 -0600 Message-ID: <36A75DD4.41C67EA6@acm.org> Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 11:03:16 -0600 From: Gabor Kincses X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.5-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Satoshi Asami CC: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: end of 2.2-stable support and the future of ports References: <199901210455.UAA89220@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Satoshi Asami wrote: > > Hello world, > > Well, the time has finally come. The 3.0 tree was branched to > 3.1-stable (RELENG_3) and 4.0-current (HEAD) today. > > As has been announced before, the support for the 2.2 branch by the > ports team has now officially ended. New ports will no longer > required to be tested on 2.2. Also, ELF has been the default format > for the 3.0 branch for some time, so now seems like a good time to > declare the end of a.out support too. > > We will not yank 2.2/a.out support from existing ports, but will not > require 2.2 or a.out support be preserved across port updates either. > This means that the numbef of ports that can be compiled on 2.2 will > slowly decrease over time. In a few months' time, I will remove all > 2.2/a.out support from bsd.port*.mk. That will finally free us from > all the kludges we had to put into the system and the ports tree in > order to make a smooth (relatively speaking -- don't laugh) transition > from 2.2/a.out to 3.0/ELF. > > I will build the final snapshot of packages-2.2-stable tonight and put > it up on ftp.freebsd.org. It will be kept there for a few months, but I have three 2.2.5 machines (also have the CDs), but some of the ports have much better versions in the latest 2.2 ports collection. Since these boxes perform exceptionally well, I have a really hard time justifying my mocking around with them. At the same time the need occasionally arises to pick up a port from the CD. It would be a real shame if the 2.2 ports collection disappeared for ever. I know, earlier versions like 2.0.5, 2.1.7 were also wiped out at some point, but the subsequent releases didn't remove such fundamental features like a.out support... So why the rush? Why not just keep a final 2.2 snapshot around (for a few years) for those not willing to just yet plunge into 3.0? Is diskspace cost the limiting factor? Once again, I'm not asking for support, just availability. -- Gabor Kincses (gabor@acm.org) FreeBSD 2.2.5-STABLE To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jan 21 09:24:52 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA29831 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 09:24:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rachel (mail.glenatl.glenayre.com [157.230.160.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA29826 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 09:24:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhicks@glenatl.glenayre.com) Received: from jhicks.glenatl.glenayre.com by rachel (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA18159; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 12:15:12 -0500 Received: from jhicks.glenatl.glenayre.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jhicks.glenatl.glenayre.com (8.9.2/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA02578; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 17:16:19 GMT Message-Id: <199901211716.RAA02578@jhicks.glenatl.glenayre.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Gabor Kincses cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: end of 2.2-stable support and the future of ports In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 21 Jan 1999 11:03:16 CST." <36A75DD4.41C67EA6@acm.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 17:16:14 +0000 From: Jerry Hicks Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Not to fear... They'll be available from the CVS repository until we hear otherwise. You'll start to experience bitrot though, as the software the ports handle advances through its own evolution. If you're really concerned, do what we've done and archive the repo and tarballs from the here and now for possible future use. Good Luck, Jerry Hicks jerry.hicks@glenayre.com > Satoshi Asami wrote: > > > > Hello world, > > > > Well, the time has finally come. The 3.0 tree was branched to > > 3.1-stable (RELENG_3) and 4.0-current (HEAD) today. > > > > As has been announced before, the support for the 2.2 branch by the > > ports team has now officially ended. New ports will no longer > > required to be tested on 2.2. Also, ELF has been the default format > > for the 3.0 branch for some time, so now seems like a good time to > > declare the end of a.out support too. > > > > We will not yank 2.2/a.out support from existing ports, but will not > > require 2.2 or a.out support be preserved across port updates either. > > This means that the numbef of ports that can be compiled on 2.2 will > > slowly decrease over time. In a few months' time, I will remove all > > 2.2/a.out support from bsd.port*.mk. That will finally free us from > > all the kludges we had to put into the system and the ports tree in > > order to make a smooth (relatively speaking -- don't laugh) transition > > from 2.2/a.out to 3.0/ELF. > > > > I will build the final snapshot of packages-2.2-stable tonight and put > > it up on ftp.freebsd.org. It will be kept there for a few months, but > > I have three 2.2.5 machines (also have the CDs), but some of the ports > have much better versions in the latest 2.2 ports collection. Since > these boxes perform exceptionally well, I have a really hard time > justifying my mocking around with them. At the same time the need > occasionally arises to pick up a port from the CD. It would be a real > shame if the 2.2 ports collection disappeared for ever. I know, earlier > versions like 2.0.5, 2.1.7 were also wiped out at some point, but the > subsequent releases didn't remove such fundamental features like a.out > support... > > So why the rush? Why not just keep a final 2.2 snapshot around (for a > few years) for those not willing to just yet plunge into 3.0? Is > diskspace cost the limiting factor? > > Once again, I'm not asking for support, just availability. > > -- > Gabor Kincses > (gabor@acm.org) > FreeBSD 2.2.5-STABLE > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jan 21 09:57:20 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA04175 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 09:57:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rachel (mail.glenatl.glenayre.com [157.230.160.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA04170 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 09:57:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhicks@glenatl.glenayre.com) Received: from jhicks.glenatl.glenayre.com by rachel (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA18340; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 12:47:41 -0500 Received: from jhicks.glenatl.glenayre.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jhicks.glenatl.glenayre.com (8.9.2/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA02652; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 17:48:48 GMT Message-Id: <199901211748.RAA02652@jhicks.glenatl.glenayre.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Gabor Kincses cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: end of 2.2-stable support and the future of ports In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 21 Jan 1999 11:41:41 CST." <36A766D5.2781E494@acm.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 17:48:47 +0000 From: Jerry Hicks Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Jerry Hicks wrote: > > > > Not to fear... They'll be available from the CVS repository until > > we hear otherwise. > > > > You'll start to experience bitrot though, as the software the ports > > handle advances through its own evolution. > > Well, yes, but the distfiles don't really change. I mean there will be > newer versions, but the names tend to be different (new version numbers > usually). > Right, but as the older versions begin to become unmaintained expect the patches and scripts to bitrot WRT the new distfiles. > > > > If you're really concerned, do what we've done and archive the repo > > and tarballs from the here and now for possible future use. > > I have a 340MB drive in one of my machines. The others have maybe a > couple hundred megs, tops. I'm sure all that stuff is more. BTW, how > big is it as of 2.2.8? > Pretty big for everything. You'd need about 4GB for the repo and all of the distfiles. Add about another GB if you want to spin your own releases. Of course you'll also need room to build and install these. That's about $200 worth of hard disks these days. If you can't afford one and have need of some archival bits in the future, feel free to drop me a line as I'll be keeping these indefinitely. I doubt that a year from now WC-CDROM will see enough demand to justify keeping a "Classic" 2.2.8-STABLE snapshot CD set around, although they might if demand justifies it. On the other hand, they are producing the "Toolkit" series, which may contain all of this? Sorry, I haven't had time to evaluate it. Good Luck, Jerry Hicks jerry.hicks@bellsouth.net > -- > Gabor Kincses > (gabor@acm.org) > FreeBSD 2.2.5-STABLE > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jan 21 10:23:26 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA08295 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 10:23:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from techpower.net (techpower.net [205.133.231.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA08285; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 10:23:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hometeam@techpower.net) Received: from localhost (hometeam@localhost) by techpower.net (8.9.2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA71474; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 13:23:26 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from hometeam@techpower.net) Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 13:23:25 -0500 (EST) From: Jt To: Gabor Kincses cc: Satoshi Asami , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: end of 2.2-stable support and the future of ports In-Reply-To: <36A75DD4.41C67EA6@acm.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I cvsuped RELENG_3 and my kernel says 3.0-stable...I thought it would be 3.1 ? On Thu, 21 Jan 1999, Gabor Kincses wrote: > Satoshi Asami wrote: > > > > Hello world, > > > > Well, the time has finally come. The 3.0 tree was branched to > > 3.1-stable (RELENG_3) and 4.0-current (HEAD) today. > > > > As has been announced before, the support for the 2.2 branch by the > > ports team has now officially ended. New ports will no longer > > required to be tested on 2.2. Also, ELF has been the default format > > for the 3.0 branch for some time, so now seems like a good time to > > declare the end of a.out support too. > > > > We will not yank 2.2/a.out support from existing ports, but will not > > require 2.2 or a.out support be preserved across port updates either. > > This means that the numbef of ports that can be compiled on 2.2 will > > slowly decrease over time. In a few months' time, I will remove all > > 2.2/a.out support from bsd.port*.mk. That will finally free us from > > all the kludges we had to put into the system and the ports tree in > > order to make a smooth (relatively speaking -- don't laugh) transition > > from 2.2/a.out to 3.0/ELF. > > > > I will build the final snapshot of packages-2.2-stable tonight and put > > it up on ftp.freebsd.org. It will be kept there for a few months, but > > I have three 2.2.5 machines (also have the CDs), but some of the ports > have much better versions in the latest 2.2 ports collection. Since > these boxes perform exceptionally well, I have a really hard time > justifying my mocking around with them. At the same time the need > occasionally arises to pick up a port from the CD. It would be a real > shame if the 2.2 ports collection disappeared for ever. I know, earlier > versions like 2.0.5, 2.1.7 were also wiped out at some point, but the > subsequent releases didn't remove such fundamental features like a.out > support... > > So why the rush? Why not just keep a final 2.2 snapshot around (for a > few years) for those not willing to just yet plunge into 3.0? Is > diskspace cost the limiting factor? > > Once again, I'm not asking for support, just availability. > > -- > Gabor Kincses > (gabor@acm.org) > FreeBSD 2.2.5-STABLE > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jan 21 10:57:42 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA12370 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 10:57:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA12365 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 10:57:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.9.1/8.8.8) id KAA06901 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 10:57:29 -0800 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda06899; Thu Jan 21 10:57:21 1999 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.9.2/8.9.1) id KAA27552 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 10:57:20 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199901211857.KAA27552@passer.osg.gov.bc.ca> Received: from localhost.osg.gov.bc.ca(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "passer.osg.gov.bc.ca" via SMTP by localhost.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpdv27504; Thu Jan 21 10:56:33 1999 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 Reply-to: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-OS: FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE+CAM X-Sender: cschuber To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ELF Motif Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 10:56:33 -0800 From: Cy Schubert Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Now that 3.0 has become the -stable branch, I would assume that many vendors may port their products to the new binary format. I've spoken to a couple of vendors about their Motif products migration to ELF. Both have said soon. Since I don't have any evidence of anything that will prove these promises either way (being the skeptical person I am), I would like to determine whether I should: 1. Wait. 2. Replace applications with those that use toolkits other than Motif. 3. Use 3.0 with a.out binaries. I would like to still maintain the option of recompiling these applications on 3.0 if I have to, rather than keep a 2.2 system for that purpose. I seem to have the impression that some in the inner sanctum of the FreeBSD project may have managed to get their hands on a pre-release copy of Motif for FreeBSD ELF. If this is the case, one might be able expect that a product will be released by some vendor RSN, in which case wait might be the option to take. Would anyone care to comment on or confirm my assumptions? Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Open Systems Group Internet: Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca ITSD Cy.Schubert@gems8.gov.bc.ca Province of BC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jan 21 11:42:36 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA17666 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 11:42:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles236.castles.com [208.214.165.236]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA17655 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 11:42:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA10381; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 11:19:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199901211919.LAA10381@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ELF Motif In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 21 Jan 1999 10:56:33 PST." <199901211857.KAA27552@passer.osg.gov.bc.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 11:19:21 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Now that 3.0 has become the -stable branch, I would assume that > many vendors may port their products to the new binary format. > I've spoken to a couple of vendors about their Motif products > migration to ELF. Both have said soon. Since I don't have any > evidence of anything that will prove these promises either way > (being the skeptical person I am), I would like to determine > whether I should: 4. www.appstogo.com -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jan 21 12:07:20 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA21010 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 12:07:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from osprey.grizzly.com (osprey.grizzly.com [209.133.20.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA21003 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 12:07:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from markd@Grizzly.COM) Received: (from markd@localhost) by osprey.grizzly.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) id MAA10562; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 12:07:06 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 12:07:06 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199901212007.MAA10562@osprey.grizzly.com> X-Authentication-Warning: osprey.grizzly.com: markd set sender to markd@grizzly.com using -f From: Mark Diekhans To: Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG CC: Mike Smith In-reply-to: <199901211919.LAA10381@dingo.cdrom.com> (message from Mike Smith on Thu, 21 Jan 1999 11:19:21 -0800) Subject: Re: ELF Motif References: <199901211919.LAA10381@dingo.cdrom.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike informs me that the actually domain name is www.apps2go.com >> Now that 3.0 has become the -stable branch, I would assume that >> many vendors may port their products to the new binary format. >> I've spoken to a couple of vendors about their Motif products >> migration to ELF. Both have said soon. Since I don't have any >> evidence of anything that will prove these promises either way >> (being the skeptical person I am), I would like to determine >> whether I should: > >4. www.appstogo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jan 21 12:12:22 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA21948 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 12:12:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jason02.u.washington.edu (jason02.u.washington.edu [140.142.76.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA21937 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 12:12:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jcwells@u.washington.edu) Received: from saul9.u.washington.edu (root@saul9.u.washington.edu [140.142.82.7]) by jason02.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id MAA28314 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 12:12:11 -0800 Received: from S8-37-26.student.washington.edu (S8-37-26.student.washington.edu [128.208.37.26]) by saul9.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id MAA11643 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 12:12:10 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 12:11:34 -0800 (PST) From: "Jason C. Wells" X-Sender: jason@s8-37-26.student.washington.edu Reply-To: "Jason C. Wells" To: FreeBSD-stable Subject: RELENG_3 kernel build died Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I blew away my old sources and supped new sources this morning. I previously ran 3.0-RELEASE and have been waiting for 3x to go stable. Here are pertinent lines from my config file: device sc0 at isa? tty # System console options MAXCONS=16 # number of virtual consoles options SC_HISTORY_SIZE=200 # number of history buffer lines Also, I have NOLKM and NOAUT defined if it matters. I built my kernel. I got a complaint about config not being up to date. I rebuilt and installed config. I went to build my kernel and received the following error. cc -c -O -Wreturn-type -Wcomment -Wredundant-decls -Wimplicit -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wuninitializ ed -Wformat -Wunused -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../ ../../include -DKERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf vers.c loading kernel syscons.o: In function `scvidprobe': syscons.o(.text+0x231): undefined reference to `vid_configure' syscons.o(.text+0x24e): undefined reference to `vid_allocate' syscons.o(.text+0x26b): undefined reference to `vid_get_adapter' syscons.o: In function `sckbdprobe': syscons.o(.text+0x29a): undefined reference to `kbd_configure' **** Snipped more of the same **** syscons.o: In function `set_border': syscons.o(.text+0x59ff): undefined reference to `vidsw' syscons.o(.text+0x5b40): more undefined references to `vidsw' follow *** Error code 1 Stop. I don't know all of that means but it sound bad to me. What have I missed? (I presume I missed something. One of these days I might find a problem not caused by pilot error. :)) Catchya Later, | Give me UNIX or give me a typewriter. Jason Wells | http://www.freebsd.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jan 21 12:22:45 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA23891 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 12:22:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA23879 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 12:22:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.9.1/8.8.8) id MAA07214; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 12:21:51 -0800 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda07212; Thu Jan 21 12:21:38 1999 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.9.2/8.9.1) id MAA29012; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 12:21:38 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199901212021.MAA29012@passer.osg.gov.bc.ca> Received: from localhost.osg.gov.bc.ca(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "passer.osg.gov.bc.ca" via SMTP by localhost.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpdk29005; Thu Jan 21 12:20:50 1999 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 Reply-to: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-OS: FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE+CAM X-Sender: cschuber To: Mark Diekhans cc: Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Mike Smith Subject: Re: ELF Motif In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 21 Jan 1999 12:07:06 PST." <199901212007.MAA10562@osprey.grizzly.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 12:20:50 -0800 From: Cy Schubert Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Good stuff thanks. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Open Systems Group Internet: Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca ITSD Cy.Schubert@gems8.gov.bc.ca Province of BC In message <199901212007.MAA10562@osprey.grizzly.com>, Mark Diekhans writes: > > Mike informs me that the actually domain name is > > www.apps2go.com > > >> Now that 3.0 has become the -stable branch, I would assume that > >> many vendors may port their products to the new binary format. > >> I've spoken to a couple of vendors about their Motif products > >> migration to ELF. Both have said soon. Since I don't have any > >> evidence of anything that will prove these promises either way > >> (being the skeptical person I am), I would like to determine > >> whether I should: > > > >4. www.appstogo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jan 21 13:16:47 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA28941 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 13:16:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from shemp.palomine.net (shemp.palomine.net [205.198.88.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA28929 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 13:16:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cjohnson@palomine.net) Received: (qmail 19382 invoked by uid 1000); 21 Jan 1999 21:16:26 -0000 Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 16:16:26 -0500 From: Chris Johnson To: "Jason C. Wells" Cc: FreeBSD-stable Subject: Re: RELENG_3 kernel build died Message-ID: <19990121161626.A19355@palomine.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Jason C. Wells on Thu, Jan 21, 1999 at 12:11:34PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Jan 21, 1999 at 12:11:34PM -0800, Jason C. Wells wrote: > I blew away my old sources and supped new sources this morning. I > previously ran 3.0-RELEASE and have been waiting for 3x to go stable. > > Here are pertinent lines from my config file: > > device sc0 at isa? tty # System console > options MAXCONS=16 # number of virtual consoles > options SC_HISTORY_SIZE=200 # number of history buffer lines > > Also, I have NOLKM and NOAUT defined if it matters. > > I built my kernel. I got a complaint about config not being up to date. I > rebuilt and installed config. I went to build my kernel and received the > following error. > > cc -c -O -Wreturn-type -Wcomment -Wredundant-decls -Wimplicit > -Wnested-externs > -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline > -Wuninitializ > ed -Wformat -Wunused -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. > -I../ > ../../include -DKERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf vers.c > loading kernel > syscons.o: In function `scvidprobe': > syscons.o(.text+0x231): undefined reference to `vid_configure' > syscons.o(.text+0x24e): undefined reference to `vid_allocate' > syscons.o(.text+0x26b): undefined reference to `vid_get_adapter' > syscons.o: In function `sckbdprobe': > syscons.o(.text+0x29a): undefined reference to `kbd_configure' > **** Snipped more of the same **** > syscons.o: In function `set_border': > syscons.o(.text+0x59ff): undefined reference to `vidsw' > syscons.o(.text+0x5b40): more undefined references to `vidsw' follow > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > > I don't know all of that means but it sound bad to me. What have I missed? There were some major syscons changes a week or so ago. This might help: http://www.freebsd.org/~yokota/sc_update.txt Chris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jan 21 13:25:01 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA29791 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 13:25:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from trantor.sc.metrolink.com (trantor.sc.metrolink.com [209.12.162.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA29766 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 13:24:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from anderson@metrolink.com) Received: from trantor.sc.metrolink.com (trantor.sc.metrolink.com [209.12.162.18]) by trantor.sc.metrolink.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA20780; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 16:24:34 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from anderson@metrolink.com) Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 16:24:30 -0500 (EST) From: Stuart Anderson X-Sender: anderson@trantor.sc.metrolink.com To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ELF Motif In-Reply-To: <199901211857.KAA27552@passer.osg.gov.bc.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've just checked with our person working on the product, and the packages have been finalized. Pending a few Documentaion updates, Motif Complete! should ship next week. It will contain both a.out & ELF versions of the packages on the same CD. I hope this narrows it down more than the RSN answer did 8-). On Thu, 21 Jan 1999, Cy Schubert wrote: > Now that 3.0 has become the -stable branch, I would assume that > many vendors may port their products to the new binary format. > I've spoken to a couple of vendors about their Motif products > migration to ELF. Both have said soon. Since I don't have any > evidence of anything that will prove these promises either way > (being the skeptical person I am), I would like to determine > whether I should: > > 1. Wait. > > 2. Replace applications with those that use toolkits other than > Motif. > > 3. Use 3.0 with a.out binaries. I would like to still maintain > the option > of recompiling these applications on 3.0 if I have to, rather > than keep > a 2.2 system for that purpose. > > I seem to have the impression that some in the inner sanctum of the > FreeBSD project may have managed to get their hands on a > pre-release copy of Motif for FreeBSD ELF. If this is the case, > one might be able expect that a product will be released by some > vendor RSN, in which case wait might be the option to take. > > Would anyone care to comment on or confirm my assumptions? > > > Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 > Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 > Open Systems Group Internet: Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca > ITSD Cy.Schubert@gems8.gov.bc.ca > Province of BC > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > Stuart Stuart R. Anderson anderson@metrolink.com Metro Link Incorporated South Carolina Office 4711 North Powerline Road 105 Fox Ridge Run Fort Lauderdale, Florida 33309 Lexington, SC 29072 voice: 954.938.0283 voice: 803.951.3630 fax: 954.938.1982 SkyTel: 800.405.3401 http://www.metrolink.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jan 21 13:26:48 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA29960 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 13:26:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from news.third-rail.net (mail2.third-rail.net [208.153.2.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA29955 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 13:26:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from psion@geekspace.com) Received: from geekspace.com ([208.154.207.42]) by news.third-rail.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO205-101c) ID# 0-44653U100L2S100) with ESMTP id AAA102 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 16:23:09 -0500 Message-ID: <36A79B4B.376111CC@geekspace.com> Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 16:25:31 -0500 From: Chris Williams X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RELENG_3 build problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a box which was previously tracking 2.2.8-stable, its world is relatively recent. I just cvsuped to RELENG_3, and tried a 'make buildworld', and I fail as follows: cc -O -pipe -elf -Wall -Wno-unused -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/lib/csu/i386-elf/crtbegin.c -o crtbegin.o /usr/src/lib/csu/i386-elf/crtbegin.c:30: section attributes are not supported for this target /usr/src/lib/csu/i386-elf/crtbegin.c:31: section attributes are not supported for this target {standard input}: Assembler messages: {standard input}:73: Error: Unknown pseudo-op: `.section' *** Error code 1 Stop. --- Any clues? Also, is there a document anywhere about how to upgrade from 2.2.x-stable to 3.0-stable? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jan 21 13:47:29 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA02243 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 13:47:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from methan.in-berlin.de (methan.in-berlin.de [160.45.10.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA02236 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 13:47:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from woju@drawbridge.in-berlin.de) Received: from drawbridge.in-berlin.de (woju@drawbridge.in-berlin.de [192.109.42.130]) by methan.in-berlin.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA20019 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 22:47:00 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from woju@drawbridge.in-berlin.de) Received: (from woju@localhost) on Thu, 21 Jan 1999 22:38:19 +0100; by drawbridge.in-berlin.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1/WoJu11) id WAA15002 Message-ID: <19990121223818.I24506@keep.in-berlin.de> Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 22:38:18 +0100 From: Wolfgang Jung To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RELENG_3 build problem Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <36A79B4B.376111CC@geekspace.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <36A79B4B.376111CC@geekspace.com>; from Chris Williams on Thu, Jan 21, 1999 at 04:25:31PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Jan 21, 1999 at 04:25:31PM -0500, Chris Williams wrote: > I have a box which was previously tracking 2.2.8-stable, its world is > relatively recent. I just cvsuped to RELENG_3, and tried a 'make > buildworld', and I fail as follows: > > cc -O -pipe -elf -Wall -Wno-unused -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c > /usr/src/lib/csu/i386-elf/crtbegin.c -o crtbegin.o > /usr/src/lib/csu/i386-elf/crtbegin.c:30: section attributes are not > supported for this target > /usr/src/lib/csu/i386-elf/crtbegin.c:31: section attributes are not > supported for this target > {standard input}: Assembler messages: > {standard input}:73: Error: Unknown pseudo-op: `.section' > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > > --- > > Any clues? Just completed mine... it went without a hitch ;) But: I had an 3.0-CURRENT running. > > Also, is there a document anywhere about how to upgrade from > 2.2.x-stable to 3.0-stable? You proably should transfort your System form a.out to ELF prior, at least that is what I found on the mailarchives. Gruss Wolfgang -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jan 21 14:17:02 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA05632 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 14:17:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from infowest.com (ns1.infowest.com [204.17.177.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA05617; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 14:16:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from agifford@infowest.com) Received: from infowest.com (Tambler.infowest.com [207.49.57.143]) by infowest.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA27262; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 15:16:45 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <36A7A752.E6BDBDDB@infowest.com> Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 15:16:50 -0700 From: "Aaron D. Gifford" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 2.2.8-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Making the move from 2.2.8-STABLE to 3.0-STABLE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Okay, let me see if I have the steps down for upgrading my 2.2.8-STABLE system to 3.0-STABLE: 1. Edit my supfile and make the "RELENG_2_2" tag to "RELENG_3" 2. Grab the new 3.0-STABLE sources with cvsup 3. Read the "UPDATING" file in /usr/src after cvsup-ing the new sources to see if I am missing any steps 4. Do "make aout-to-elf" to upgrade userland from aout to ELF 5. Create a new kernel config file for my 3.0-STABLE system based the new 3.0 GENERIC and/or LINT configuration files since so many changes have occured which will make my 2.2.8 kernel configuration obsolete (I'm thinking of the CAM changes and console changes in particular, and I intend to switch from IPFIREWALL to IPFILTER in my kernel) 6. Since my system uses SCSI drives (/dev/sd0s1a, etc.), edit /etc/fstab and change all references to "sdX..." to "daX..." then do a MAKEDEV of the appropriate daX devices -- is this necessary? I'm just guessing here... 7. Rebuild a new 3.0 kernel -- Does this build the ELF kernel, or will I need to rebuild again after rebooting? 8. Follow the instructions for installing the new ELF boot blocks found at 9 REBOOT What did I miss? Am I overdoing anything (do I have any unnecessary steps)? Any errors with this plan? Thanks in advance! Aaron out. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jan 21 14:23:03 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA06075 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 14:23:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from talking.talking.com (xata.winternet.com [199.199.125.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA06064 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 14:23:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tab@talking.com) Received: from loon (loon [204.246.103.50]) by talking.talking.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA06528 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 16:21:37 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19990121151908.009b3700@204.246.103.1> X-Sender: tab@204.246.103.1 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 15:19:10 -0600 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Terry Braun Subject: how to install 3.0 Stable Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I tried to install 3.0 stable by making a boot floppy and then doing an install by ftp. I could not find an ftp server which allowed the release of 3.0-stable. Am I required to do the install by using cvsup? thanks Terry Braun ------------------- Terry Braun tab@talking.com Talking Networks, Inc. 612-351-0175 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jan 21 15:03:32 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA10241 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 15:03:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fw.bby.com.au (ns.bby.com.au [192.83.119.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA10231 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 15:03:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by fw.bby.com.au (8.8.8/8.6.9) id KAA10717; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 10:03:07 +1100 (EST) Received: from lightning.itga.com.au(192.168.71.20) via SMTP by fw.bby.com.au, id smtpd010712; Thu Jan 21 23:02:59 1999 Received: from lightning (lightning [192.168.71.20]) by lightning.itga.com.au (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA16581; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 10:02:58 +1100 (EST) Message-Id: <199901212302.KAA16581@lightning.itga.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 From: Gregory Bond To: "Jason C. Wells" Cc: FreeBSD-stable Subject: Re: RELENG_3 kernel build died In-reply-to: Your message of Thu, 21 Jan 1999 12:11:34 -0800. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 10:02:58 +1100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG check /usr/src/UPDATING To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jan 21 15:30:24 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA14556 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 15:30:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from polaris.we.lc.ehu.es (polaris.we.lc.ehu.es [158.227.6.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA14539 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 15:30:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jose@we.lc.ehu.es) Received: from we.lc.ehu.es (lxpx19.lx.ehu.es [158.227.99.19]) by polaris.we.lc.ehu.es (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA12078; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 00:30:02 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <36A7B879.574A97A7@we.lc.ehu.es> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 00:30:01 +0100 From: "José Mª Alcaide" Organization: Universidad del País Vasco - Dept. Electricidad y Electrónica X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Williams CC: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RELENG_3 build problem References: <36A79B4B.376111CC@geekspace.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Chris Williams wrote: > > I have a box which was previously tracking 2.2.8-stable, its world is > relatively recent. I just cvsuped to RELENG_3, and tried a 'make > buildworld', and I fail as follows: > [....] The "world" and "buildworld" targets are not appropriate for making the 2.2.8 --> 3.0 transition. You should use "aout-to-elf". Read the first lines of /usr/src/Makefile. -- JMA ----------------------------------------------------------------------- José Mª Alcaide | mailto:jose@we.lc.ehu.es Universidad del País Vasco | http://www.we.lc.ehu.es/~jose Dpto. de Electricidad y Electrónica | Facultad de Ciencias - Campus de Lejona | Tel.: +34-946012479 48940 Lejona (Vizcaya) - SPAIN | Fax: +34-944858139 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- "Go ahead... make my day." - H. Callahan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jan 21 15:51:09 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA16871 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 15:51:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mercury.mv.net (mercury.mv.net [199.125.85.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA16850 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 15:50:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from psion@geekspace.com) Received: from geekspace.com (williams.mv.com [207.22.43.96]) by mercury.mv.net (8.8.8/mem-971025) with ESMTP id SAA09899 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 18:49:38 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <36A7BE39.19D7B203@geekspace.com> Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 18:54:33 -0500 From: Chris Williams X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RELENG_3 build problem References: <36A79B4B.376111CC@geekspace.com> <36A7B879.574A97A7@we.lc.ehu.es> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > I have a box which was previously tracking 2.2.8-stable, its world is > > relatively recent. I just cvsuped to RELENG_3, and tried a 'make > > buildworld', and I fail as follows: > > [....] > > The "world" and "buildworld" targets are not appropriate for making > the 2.2.8 --> 3.0 transition. You should use "aout-to-elf". Read the > first lines of /usr/src/Makefile. Hrmm. I was hoping to build on one machine, and then install onto another to test before installing on the build machine. Is there a way to do this? Is aout-to-elf like buildworld or is it like world? (ie, does it actually install stuff?) -- -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.12 GCS/IT/M/P/S d?- s+:- a17>? C++++$ UBLS++$>++++ P--- L++>+++ E---- W+++$ N- !o K? w@$ !O M-- V-- PS+++ PE Y+ PGP- t+ 5-(++) X+ R+ tv>! b+++ DI+++ D+ G++ e* h!*>++ r%>++ !y->$ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jan 21 16:01:01 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA17897 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 16:01:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.196.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA17866 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 16:00:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (IDENT:gUyf2YapO6OVhTuaqw/zhRRTd0eYVssQ@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA11485; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 09:00:32 +0900 (JST) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.7.6+2.6Wbeta7/3.4W/zodiac-May96) with ESMTP id JAA01528; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 09:03:07 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199901220003.JAA01528@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> To: "Jason C. Wells" cc: FreeBSD-stable , yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp Subject: Re: RELENG_3 kernel build died In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 21 Jan 1999 12:11:34 PST." References: Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 09:03:06 +0900 From: Kazutaka YOKOTA Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >I blew away my old sources and supped new sources this morning. I >previously ran 3.0-RELEASE and have been waiting for 3x to go stable. [...] >I built my kernel. I got a complaint about config not being up to date. I >rebuilt and installed config. I went to build my kernel and received the >following error. [...] >I don't know all of that means but it sound bad to me. What have I missed? > >(I presume I missed something. One of these days I might find a problem >not caused by pilot error. :)) Read http://www.freebsd.org/~yokota/sc_update.txt and update your kernel config file. Also, have a look at the GENERIC kernel config file. Kazu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jan 21 16:15:34 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA22291 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 16:15:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from polaris.we.lc.ehu.es (polaris.we.lc.ehu.es [158.227.6.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA22281 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 16:15:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jose@we.lc.ehu.es) Received: from we.lc.ehu.es (lxpx22.lx.ehu.es [158.227.99.22]) by polaris.we.lc.ehu.es (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA12177; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 01:14:41 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <36A7C2F0.83EF281E@we.lc.ehu.es> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 01:14:40 +0100 From: "José Mª Alcaide" Organization: Universidad del País Vasco - Dept. Electricidad y Electrónica X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Williams CC: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RELENG_3 build problem References: <36A79B4B.376111CC@geekspace.com> <36A7B879.574A97A7@we.lc.ehu.es> <36A7BE39.19D7B203@geekspace.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Chris Williams wrote: > > Hrmm. I was hoping to build on one machine, and then install onto > another to test before installing on the build machine. Is there a way > to do this? > Is aout-to-elf like buildworld or is it like world? (ie, does it > actually install stuff?) There is an aout-to-elf-build target. It is explained at the beggining of /usr/src/Makefile. -- JMA ----------------------------------------------------------------------- José Mª Alcaide | mailto:jose@we.lc.ehu.es Universidad del País Vasco | http://www.we.lc.ehu.es/~jose Dpto. de Electricidad y Electrónica | Facultad de Ciencias - Campus de Lejona | Tel.: +34-946012479 48940 Lejona (Vizcaya) - SPAIN | Fax: +34-944858139 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- "Go ahead... make my day." - H. Callahan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jan 21 16:55:55 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA28076 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 16:55:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jason03.u.washington.edu (jason03.u.washington.edu [140.142.77.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA28070 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 16:55:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jcwells@u.washington.edu) Received: from saul1.u.washington.edu (root@saul1.u.washington.edu [140.142.82.10]) by jason03.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id QAA21672 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 16:55:41 -0800 Received: from S8-37-26.student.washington.edu (S8-37-26.student.washington.edu [128.208.37.26]) by saul1.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id QAA22351 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 16:55:40 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 16:55:05 -0800 (PST) From: "Jason C. Wells" X-Sender: jason@s8-37-26.student.washington.edu Reply-To: "Jason C. Wells" To: FreeBSD-stable Subject: MAKEDEV Missing something? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG s8-37-26 /usr/src # grep -aR acd0 * | more yields nothing related to MAKEDEV. 'wcd0' vanished with the new release. Should MAKEDEV be updated also? Catchya Later, | Give me UNIX or give me a typewriter. Jason Wells | http://www.freebsd.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jan 21 17:05:15 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA29430 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 17:05:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mercury.jorsm.com (mercury.jorsm.com [207.112.128.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA29418 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 17:05:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jer@jorsm.com) Received: from localhost (jer@localhost) by mercury.jorsm.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id TAA10360; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 19:04:45 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 19:04:44 -0600 (CST) From: Jeremy Shaffner To: Gustavo Vieira G C Rios cc: BSD-Stable Subject: Re: patch In-Reply-To: <36A668D4.D92C9E87@netshell.vicosa.com.br> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG One isn't necessary. `cd` into the directory the is located. `patch < patchfile.diff` For more info type `man patch`. On Wed, 20 Jan 1999, Gustavo Vieira G C Rios wrote: > is there any tutorial about how-to apply a patch to the system ? > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > -===================================================================- Jeremy Shaffner JORSM Internet Senior Technical Support Northwest Indiana's Premium jer@jorsm.com Internet Service Provider support@jorsm.com http://www.jorsm.com -===================================================================- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jan 21 17:06:08 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA29570 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 17:06:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jason01.u.washington.edu (jason01.u.washington.edu [140.142.70.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA29557 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 17:06:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jcwells@u.washington.edu) Received: from saul7.u.washington.edu (root@saul7.u.washington.edu [140.142.82.2]) by jason01.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id RAA26480 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 17:05:53 -0800 Received: from S8-37-26.student.washington.edu (S8-37-26.student.washington.edu [128.208.37.26]) by saul7.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id RAA32542 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 17:05:52 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 17:05:17 -0800 (PST) From: "Jason C. Wells" X-Sender: jason@s8-37-26.student.washington.edu Reply-To: "Jason C. Wells" To: FreeBSD-stable Subject: Re: RELENG_3 kernel build died In-Reply-To: <199901220003.JAA01528@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks to all for the help! Catchya Later, | Give me UNIX or give me a typewriter. Jason Wells | http://www.freebsd.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jan 21 17:22:04 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA01918 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 17:22:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mercury.jorsm.com (mercury.jorsm.com [207.112.128.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA01822 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 17:21:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jer@jorsm.com) Received: from localhost (jer@localhost) by mercury.jorsm.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id TAA12327; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 19:21:38 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 19:21:37 -0600 (CST) From: Jeremy Shaffner To: Jt cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: end of 2.2-stable support and the future of ports In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG You missed Jordan's reply afterward with the correction. It's 3.0-STABLE at least until after 3.1-RELEASE ~ Feb 15th. On Thu, 21 Jan 1999, Jt wrote: > > I cvsuped RELENG_3 and my kernel says 3.0-stable...I thought it would > be 3.1 ? > > > On Thu, 21 Jan 1999, Gabor Kincses wrote: > > > Satoshi Asami wrote: > > > > > > Hello world, > > > > > > Well, the time has finally come. The 3.0 tree was branched to > > > 3.1-stable (RELENG_3) and 4.0-current (HEAD) today. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jan 21 18:04:24 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA08654 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 18:04:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from xylan.com (postal.xylan.com [208.8.0.248]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA08632 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 18:04:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) Received: from mailhub.xylan.com by xylan.com (8.8.7/SMI-SVR4 (xylan-mgw 2.2 [OUT])) id SAA23200; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 18:03:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from utah.XYLAN.COM by mailhub.xylan.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4 (mailhub 2.1 [HUB])) id SAA20389; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 18:03:02 -0800 Received: from softweyr.com by utah.XYLAN.COM (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4 (xylan utah [SPOOL])) id TAA09332; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 19:03:01 -0700 Message-ID: <36A7DC55.2C8E66D5@softweyr.com> Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 19:03:01 -0700 From: Wes Peters Organization: Softweyr LLC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 2.2.7-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeremy Shaffner CC: Jt , stable@FreeBSD.ORG, jkh@cdrom.com Subject: Re: end of 2.2-stable support and the future of ports References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jeremy Shaffner wrote: > > You missed Jordan's reply afterward with the correction. It's 3.0-STABLE > at least until after 3.1-RELEASE ~ Feb 15th. Oh come on guys! This should CERTAINLY be shortened to Feb 14th! And stick a big AsciiCAD heart in the /etc/motd. ;^) -- Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket? Wes Peters +1.801.915.2061 Softweyr LLC wes@softweyr.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jan 21 21:31:02 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA19370 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 21:31:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from lohi.clinet.fi (lohi.clinet.fi [194.100.0.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA18929 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 21:29:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hsu@mail.clinet.fi) Received: from katiska.clinet.fi (katiska.clinet.fi [194.100.0.4]) by lohi.clinet.fi (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id GAA23033; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 06:43:31 +0200 (EET) Received: (from hsu@localhost) by katiska.clinet.fi (8.9.0/8.9.0) id GAA03051; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 06:41:31 +0200 (EET) To: "John Saunders" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Kernel PPP tty-level buffer overflows References: From: Heikki Suonsivu Date: 22 Jan 1999 06:41:30 +0200 In-Reply-To: "John Saunders"'s message of 19 Jan 1999 23:40:25 +0200 Message-ID: Lines: 44 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "John Saunders" writes: > Does anybody know how to fix the following. > > > XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX kernel log messages: > > > sio0: 815 more tty-level buffer overflows (total 4715) > > > sio0: 3093 more tty-level buffer overflows (total 7808) You need to configure your kernel with options "TTYHOG=4096" options "RS_IBUFSIZE=1024" and you need to patch sio.c to allow overriding RS_IBUFSIZE, as it is hardcoded (cyclades driver has the same problem, I think). > System is... > > FreeBSD XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX 2.2.8-STABLE FreeBSD 2.2.8-STABLE #0: Sat Jan 16 13:49:15 EST 1999 > root@XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX:/usr/src/sys/compile/MONSTER i386 > > Modem info is... > Device: /dev/cuaa0 > dmesg: sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa > dmesg: sio0: type 16550A > speed: 115200bps > carrier: Jan 20 07:02:47 XXX chat[888]: CARRIER 54000 > > Cheers. > -- +------------------------------------------------------------+ > . | John Saunders - mailto:john@nlc.net.au (EMail) | > ,--_|\ | - http://www.nlc.net.au/ (WWW) | > / Oz \ | - 02-9489-4932 or 041-822-3814 (Phone) | > \_,--\_/ | NHJ NORTHLINK COMMUNICATIONS - Supplying a professional, | > v | and above all friendly, internet connection service. | > +------------------------------------------------------------+ > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Heikki Suonsivu / Clinet Oy / Tekniikantie 12 / FI-02150 Espoo / FINLAND, hsu@clinet.fi mobile +358-40-5519679 work +358-9-43542270 fax -4555276 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jan 21 21:38:57 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA20585 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 21:38:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA20579 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 21:38:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA17347; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 22:02:08 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <199901220502.WAA17347@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: end of 2.2-stable support and the future of ports In-Reply-To: <199901211748.RAA02652@jhicks.glenatl.glenayre.com> from Jerry Hicks at "Jan 21, 99 05:48:47 pm" To: jhicks@glenatl.glenayre.com (Jerry Hicks) Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 22:02:08 -0700 (MST) Cc: gabor@acm.org, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-to: chad@DCFinc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As I recall, Jerry Hicks wrote: > > I doubt that a year from now WC-CDROM will see enough demand to > justify keeping a "Classic" 2.2.8-STABLE snapshot CD set around, > although they might if demand justifies it. Actually, I'd buy a CD-ROM set that consisted of an installation set and then the whole ports collection for 2.2-stable and the distfiles that go with them. Think that'd fit on 2 CD-ROMS? How about it, Walnut Creek? -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org chad@anasazi.com larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jan 21 21:50:59 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA22621 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 21:50:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from guepardo.vicosa.com.br (guepardo.tdnet.com.br [200.236.148.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA22603 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 21:50:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grios@netshell.vicosa.com.br) Received: from netshell.vicosa.com.br [200.236.148.207] by guepardo.vicosa.com.br with ESMTP (SMTPD32-4.03) id AEA0D4C0100; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 00:21:04 +03d00 Message-ID: <36A7EBDA.14003849@netshell.vicosa.com.br> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 01:09:14 -0200 From: Gustavo Vieira G C Rios X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: BSD-Stable Subject: which one Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Where can i download 3.0-stable from ? Is that possible via CTM ? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jan 21 22:50:57 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA29738 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 22:50:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.atl.bellsouth.net (mail.atl.bellsouth.net [205.152.0.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA29729 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 22:50:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wghicks@bellsouth.net) Received: from wghicks.bellsouth.net (root@host-209-214-72-185.atl.bellsouth.net [209.214.72.185]) by mail.atl.bellsouth.net (8.8.8-spamdog/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA13091 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 01:50:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from wghicks (wghicks@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wghicks.bellsouth.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id CAA02963 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 02:07:08 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from wghicks@wghicks.bellsouth.net) Message-Id: <199901220707.CAA02963@bellsouth.net> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RELENG_3 not in CVSROOT/val-tags Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 02:07:06 -0500 From: W Gerald Hicks Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm not sure how this is normally updated but it was necessary for me to add the following line to CVSROOT/val-tags before I was able to checkout the new -stable branch. RELENG_3 y Cheers, Jerry Hicks wghicks@bellsouth.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jan 21 22:59:42 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA00495 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 22:59:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from the.oneinsane.net (the.oneinsane.net [207.113.133.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA00487 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 22:59:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from insane@the.oneinsane.net) Received: (from insane@localhost) by the.oneinsane.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA19322 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 22:59:31 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 22:59:31 -0800 From: "Ron 'The Insane One' Rosson" To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: end of 2.2-stable support and the future of ports Message-ID: <19990121225930.A19235@the.oneinsane.net> Reply-To: insane@oneinsane.net References: <36A7DC55.2C8E66D5@softweyr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: <36A7DC55.2C8E66D5@softweyr.com>; from Wes Peters on Thu, Jan 21, 1999 at 07:03:01PM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD the.oneinsane.net 2.2.8-STABLE X-Opinion: What you read here is my IMHO X-Disclaimer: I am a firm believer in RTFM X-WWW: http://www.oneinsane.net Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Jan 21, 1999 at 07:03:01PM -0700, Wes Peters wrote: > Jeremy Shaffner wrote: > > > > You missed Jordan's reply afterward with the correction. It's 3.0-STABLE > > at least until after 3.1-RELEASE ~ Feb 15th. > > Oh come on guys! This should CERTAINLY be shortened to Feb 14th! And > stick a big AsciiCAD heart in the /etc/motd. ;^) > If it is worth anything I second this motion ;-) Ron -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Ron Rosson ... and a UNIX user said ... The InSaNe One rm -rf * insane@oneinsane.net and all was null and void ------------------------------------------------------------------- It's so nice to be insane, nobody asks you to explain. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jan 21 22:59:54 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA00535 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 22:59:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from holly.dyndns.org (hou2-28.flex.net [207.18.136.183]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA00524 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 22:59:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris@holly.dyndns.org) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.dyndns.org (8.9.2/8.9.1) id AAA16906; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 00:59:33 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from chris) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 00:59:33 -0600 From: Chris Costello To: Gustavo Vieira G C Rios Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: which one Message-ID: <19990122005933.A16543@holly.dyndns.org> Reply-To: phoenix@calldei.com References: <36A7EBDA.14003849@netshell.vicosa.com.br> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1us In-Reply-To: <36A7EBDA.14003849@netshell.vicosa.com.br>; from Gustavo Vieira G C Rios on Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 01:09:14AM -0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 01:09:14AM -0200, Gustavo Vieira G C Rios put this into my mailbox: > Where can i download 3.0-stable from ? > Is that possible via CTM ? It's availible via CVS if you change the tag in the supfile to RELENG_3 (or there might be a 3.0-STABLE supfile up on the website already) *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_3 Enjoy 3.0-STABLE! -Chris > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jan 21 23:13:05 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA01735 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 23:13:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hun.org (hun.org [207.49.60.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA01728 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 23:13:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from attila@hun.org) Received: from localhost (attila@localhost) by hun.org (8.9.1/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA10671; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 07:12:34 GMT (envelope-from attila@hun.org) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 07:12:33 +0000 (GMT) From: attila Reply-To: attila@hun.org To: "Jason C. Wells" cc: FreeBSD-stable Subject: Re: MAKEDEV Missing something? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Owner: attila@hun.org Organization: home for unpenitent hackers and anarcho-cryptophreaks Encrypted: NO MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 21 Jan 1999, Jason C. Wells wrote: >s8-37-26 /usr/src # grep -aR acd0 * | more > >yields nothing related to MAKEDEV. > >'wcd0' vanished with the new release. Should MAKEDEV be updated also? > copy /usr/src/etc/etc.i386/MAKEDEV to /dev it contains the updated locations dont forget to update /etc/fstab for disk name changes. __________________________________________________________________________ go not unto usenet for advice, for the inhabitants thereof will say: yes, and no, and maybe, and I don't know, and fuck-off. _________________________________________________________________ attila__ To be a ruler of men, you need at least 12 inches.... There is no safety this side of the grave. Never was; never will be. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jan 22 03:35:04 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA28266 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 03:35:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from paprika.michvhf.com (paprika.michvhf.com [209.57.60.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA28237 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 03:35:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vev@michvhf.com) Received: (qmail 2103 invoked by uid 1001); 22 Jan 1999 11:34:52 -0000 Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 06:34:52 -0500 (EST) From: Vince Vielhaber To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: end of 2.2-stable support and the future of ports In-Reply-To: <19990121225930.A19235@the.oneinsane.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 21 Jan 1999, Ron 'The Insane One' Rosson wrote: > On Thu, Jan 21, 1999 at 07:03:01PM -0700, Wes Peters wrote: > > Jeremy Shaffner wrote: > > > > > > You missed Jordan's reply afterward with the correction. It's 3.0-STABLE > > > at least until after 3.1-RELEASE ~ Feb 15th. > > > > Oh come on guys! This should CERTAINLY be shortened to Feb 14th! And > > stick a big AsciiCAD heart in the /etc/motd. ;^) > > > If it is worth anything I second this motion ;-) Ditto. And on the CD cover put a big heart and give Chuck a girlfriend. Vince. -- ========================================================================== Vince Vielhaber -- KA8CSH email: vev@michvhf.com flame-mail: /dev/null # include TEAM-OS2 Online Searchable Campground Listings http://www.camping-usa.com "There is no outfit less entitled to lecture me about bloat than the federal government" -- Tony Snow ========================================================================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jan 22 03:59:05 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA00510 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 03:59:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ipt2.iptelecom.net.ua (ipt2.iptelecom.net.ua [195.123.29.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA00493; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 03:59:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sobomax@altavista.net) Received: from vega.pfts.com (async2-53.iptelecom.net.ua [195.123.29.118]) by ipt2.iptelecom.net.ua (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA15084; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 13:58:50 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from sobomax@altavista.net) Received: from altavista.net (big_brother [192.168.1.1]) by vega.pfts.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA11261; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 13:58:10 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from sobomax@altavista.net) Message-ID: <36A867ED.8ADAC14C@altavista.net> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 13:58:37 +0200 From: Maxim Sobolev X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: ru,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: current@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: World broken in RELENG_3 when making aout-to-elf bulid Content-Type: text/plain; charset=x-user-defined Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi folks, I have recent sources (cvsup'ed today) and make aout-to-elf broken with: ===> usr.bin/login cc -pipe -O2 -DCOMPAT_LINUX_THREADS -DVM_STACK -m486 -Wall -DLOGIN_ACCESS -DLOGALL   -I/usr/obj/aout/usr/obj/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/obj/src/usr.bin/login/login.c /usr/obj/src/usr.bin/login/login.c: In function `main': /usr/obj/src/usr.bin/login/login.c:129: warning: argument `argv' might be clobbered by `longjmp' or `vfork' cc -pipe -O2 -DCOMPAT_LINUX_THREADS -DVM_STACK -m486 -Wall -DLOGIN_ACCESS -DLOGALL   -I/usr/obj/aout/usr/obj/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/obj/src/usr.bin/login/login_access.c cc -pipe -O2 -DCOMPAT_LINUX_THREADS -DVM_STACK -m486 -Wall -DLOGIN_ACCESS -DLOGALL   -I/usr/obj/aout/usr/obj/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/obj/src/usr.bin/login/login_fbtab.c cc -pipe -O2 -DCOMPAT_LINUX_THREADS -DVM_STACK -m486 -Wall -DLOGIN_ACCESS -DLOGALL   -I/usr/obj/aout/usr/obj/src/tmp/usr/include  -o login login.o login_access.o login_fbtab.o  -lutil -lcrypt login.o: Undefined symbol `_pam_start' referenced from text segment login.o: Undefined symbol `_pam_strerror' referenced from text segment login.o: Undefined symbol `_pam_set_item' referenced from text segment login.o: Undefined symbol `_pam_strerror' referenced from text segment login.o: Undefined symbol `_pam_set_item' referenced from text segment login.o: Undefined symbol `_pam_strerror' referenced from text segment login.o: Undefined symbol `_pam_authenticate' referenced from text segment login.o: Undefined symbol `_pam_get_item' referenced from text segment login.o: Undefined symbol `_pam_strerror' referenced from text segment login.o: Undefined symbol `_pam_strerror' referenced from text segment login.o: Undefined symbol `_pam_end' referenced from text segment login.o: Undefined symbol `_pam_strerror' referenced from text segment login.o: Undefined symbol `_misc_conv' referenced from data segment *** Error code 1 Stop. Any glue??? Maxim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jan 22 04:59:39 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA13667 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 04:59:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from vmail.domain.com.br ([200.240.26.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA13661 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 04:59:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jfassad@domain.com.br) X-Internal-ID: 36A3933B00015A68 Received: from domain.com.br (200.240.26.240) by vmail.domain.com.br (NPlex 2.0.123); Fri, 22 Jan 1999 10:52:24 -0300 Message-ID: <36A84C77.78F0E7F8@domain.com.br> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 10:01:28 +0000 From: Joao Assad X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.8-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Maxim Sobolev , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: World broken in RELENG_3 when making aout-to-elf bulid References: <36A867ED.8ADAC14C@altavista.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have exactly the same problem here.... no clue at all... I even deleted my src and cvsuped it again.... and nada.. still get the same error. Maxim Sobolev wrote: > Hi folks, > > I have recent sources (cvsup'ed today) and make aout-to-elf broken with: > > ===> usr.bin/login > cc -pipe -O2 -DCOMPAT_LINUX_THREADS -DVM_STACK -m486 -Wall > -DLOGIN_ACCESS -DLOGALL -I/usr/obj/aout/usr/obj/src/tmp/usr/include -c > /usr/obj/src/usr.bin/login/login.c > /usr/obj/src/usr.bin/login/login.c: In function `main': > /usr/obj/src/usr.bin/login/login.c:129: warning: argument `argv' might > be clobbered by `longjmp' or `vfork' > cc -pipe -O2 -DCOMPAT_LINUX_THREADS -DVM_STACK -m486 -Wall > -DLOGIN_ACCESS -DLOGALL -I/usr/obj/aout/usr/obj/src/tmp/usr/include -c > /usr/obj/src/usr.bin/login/login_access.c > cc -pipe -O2 -DCOMPAT_LINUX_THREADS -DVM_STACK -m486 -Wall > -DLOGIN_ACCESS -DLOGALL -I/usr/obj/aout/usr/obj/src/tmp/usr/include -c > /usr/obj/src/usr.bin/login/login_fbtab.c > cc -pipe -O2 -DCOMPAT_LINUX_THREADS -DVM_STACK -m486 -Wall > -DLOGIN_ACCESS -DLOGALL -I/usr/obj/aout/usr/obj/src/tmp/usr/include > -o login login.o login_access.o login_fbtab.o -lutil -lcrypt > login.o: Undefined symbol `_pam_start' referenced from text segment > login.o: Undefined symbol `_pam_strerror' referenced from text segment > login.o: Undefined symbol `_pam_set_item' referenced from text segment > login.o: Undefined symbol `_pam_strerror' referenced from text segment > login.o: Undefined symbol `_pam_set_item' referenced from text segment > login.o: Undefined symbol `_pam_strerror' referenced from text segment > login.o: Undefined symbol `_pam_authenticate' referenced from text > segment > login.o: Undefined symbol `_pam_get_item' referenced from text segment > login.o: Undefined symbol `_pam_strerror' referenced from text segment > login.o: Undefined symbol `_pam_strerror' referenced from text segment > login.o: Undefined symbol `_pam_end' referenced from text segment > login.o: Undefined symbol `_pam_strerror' referenced from text segment > login.o: Undefined symbol `_misc_conv' referenced from data segment > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > > Any glue??? > > Maxim > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jan 22 05:32:40 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA16549 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 05:32:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freenix.no (freenix.no [195.139.70.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA16529 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 05:32:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from morten@freenix.no) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freenix.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA13485; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 14:34:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from morten@freenix.no) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 14:34:36 +0100 (CET) From: "Morten A. Middelthon" To: Joao Assad cc: Maxim Sobolev , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: World broken in RELENG_3 when making aout-to-elf bulid In-Reply-To: <36A84C77.78F0E7F8@domain.com.br> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, Joao Assad wrote: > I have exactly the same problem here.... no clue at all... > I even deleted my src and cvsuped it again.... and nada.. still get the > same error. Perhaps if you use -DNO_PAM it should compile. Read /usr/src/usr.bin/login/Makefile it's all there. -- Morten A. Middelthon Freenix Norge http://www.freenix.no/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jan 22 05:43:48 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA17977 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 05:43:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (quackerjack.cc.vt.edu [198.82.160.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA17963 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 05:43:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jobaldwi@vt.edu) Received: from sable.cc.vt.edu (sable.cc.vt.edu [128.173.16.30]) by quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA19736; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 08:43:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from john.baldwin.cx (jobaldwi.campus.vt.edu [198.82.67.63]) by sable.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA13059; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 08:43:14 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 08:44:21 -0500 (EST) From: John Baldwin To: "Morten A. Middelthon" Subject: Re: World broken in RELENG_3 when making aout-to-elf bulid Cc: Maxim Sobolev , stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Joao Assad Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On 22-Jan-99 Morten A. Middelthon wrote: > On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, Joao Assad wrote: > >> I have exactly the same problem here.... no clue at all... >> I even deleted my src and cvsuped it again.... and nada.. still get the >> same error. > > Perhaps if you use -DNO_PAM it should compile. Read > /usr/src/usr.bin/login/Makefile > it's all there. Actually, you should pass -DNOPAM to make and it will set -DNO_PAM in CFLAGS. For what it is worth, that is in there for compiling PicoBSD since it doesn't have support for shared libraries (not enough space on the floppy) and cannot use PAM. > -- > Morten A. Middelthon > Freenix Norge > http://www.freenix.no/ - --- John Baldwin -- http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/ PGP Key: http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/pgpkey.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBNqiArLaE8XzBCodNAQEfdgP/YwMojLu4SsKgVy0iNoAY/S09gP7oVJx6 Jcuc+tZ9qPKVhnepmmzdC5l9l/EqouMh2ND/Zca9Em2SN7kkaChGH2exsFvtZytu EXEitNZ/1U+idLTCKPsTb6sIbfGAF/e8p73lCikZYkRow4u/LGQHMLHMsEbkCW1e g0BdU5FXzAA= =ZNWl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jan 22 05:49:31 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA18398 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 05:49:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ipt2.iptelecom.net.ua (ipt2.iptelecom.net.ua [195.123.29.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA18385 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 05:49:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sobomax@altavista.net) Received: from vega.pfts.com (async2-53.iptelecom.net.ua [195.123.29.118]) by ipt2.iptelecom.net.ua (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA23143; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 15:48:30 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from sobomax@altavista.net) Received: from altavista.net (big_brother [192.168.1.1]) by vega.pfts.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA11652; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 15:48:22 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from sobomax@altavista.net) Message-ID: <36A881C0.F21025E2@altavista.net> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 15:48:48 +0200 From: Maxim Sobolev X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: ru,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Baldwin CC: "Morten A. Middelthon" , stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Joao Assad Subject: Re: World broken in RELENG_3 when making aout-to-elf bulid References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=x-user-defined Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG But I dont building PicoBSD and I have enough disk space here... Maxim John Baldwin wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > On 22-Jan-99 Morten A. Middelthon wrote: > > On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, Joao Assad wrote: > > > >> I have exactly the same problem here.... no clue at all... > >> I even deleted my src and cvsuped it again.... and nada.. still get the > >> same error. > > > > Perhaps if you use -DNO_PAM it should compile. Read > > /usr/src/usr.bin/login/Makefile > > it's all there. > > Actually, you should pass -DNOPAM to make and it will set -DNO_PAM in CFLAGS. > For what it is worth, that is in there for compiling PicoBSD since it doesn't > have support for shared libraries (not enough space on the floppy) and cannot > use PAM. > > > -- > > Morten A. Middelthon > > Freenix Norge > > http://www.freenix.no/ > > - --- > > John Baldwin -- http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/ > PGP Key: http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/pgpkey.asc > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: 2.6.2 > > iQCVAwUBNqiArLaE8XzBCodNAQEfdgP/YwMojLu4SsKgVy0iNoAY/S09gP7oVJx6 > Jcuc+tZ9qPKVhnepmmzdC5l9l/EqouMh2ND/Zca9Em2SN7kkaChGH2exsFvtZytu > EXEitNZ/1U+idLTCKPsTb6sIbfGAF/e8p73lCikZYkRow4u/LGQHMLHMsEbkCW1e > g0BdU5FXzAA= > =ZNWl > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jan 22 05:55:36 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA19141 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 05:55:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from techpower.net (techpower.net [205.133.231.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA19132 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 05:55:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hometeam@techpower.net) Received: from localhost (hometeam@localhost) by techpower.net (8.9.2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA00603; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 08:54:48 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from hometeam@techpower.net) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 08:54:48 -0500 (EST) From: Jt To: Maxim Sobolev cc: John Baldwin , "Morten A. Middelthon" , stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Joao Assad Subject: Re: World broken in RELENG_3 when making aout-to-elf bulid In-Reply-To: <36A881C0.F21025E2@altavista.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Just make includes and try it again... On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, Maxim Sobolev wrote: > But I dont building PicoBSD and I have enough disk space here... > > Maxim > > John Baldwin wrote: > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > > > On 22-Jan-99 Morten A. Middelthon wrote: > > > On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, Joao Assad wrote: > > > > > >> I have exactly the same problem here.... no clue at all... > > >> I even deleted my src and cvsuped it again.... and nada.. still get the > > >> same error. > > > > > > Perhaps if you use -DNO_PAM it should compile. Read > > > /usr/src/usr.bin/login/Makefile > > > it's all there. > > > > Actually, you should pass -DNOPAM to make and it will set -DNO_PAM in CFLAGS. > > For what it is worth, that is in there for compiling PicoBSD since it doesn't > > have support for shared libraries (not enough space on the floppy) and cannot > > use PAM. > > > > > -- > > > Morten A. Middelthon > > > Freenix Norge > > > http://www.freenix.no/ > > > > - --- > > > > John Baldwin -- http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/ > > PGP Key: http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/pgpkey.asc > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: 2.6.2 > > > > iQCVAwUBNqiArLaE8XzBCodNAQEfdgP/YwMojLu4SsKgVy0iNoAY/S09gP7oVJx6 > > Jcuc+tZ9qPKVhnepmmzdC5l9l/EqouMh2ND/Zca9Em2SN7kkaChGH2exsFvtZytu > > EXEitNZ/1U+idLTCKPsTb6sIbfGAF/e8p73lCikZYkRow4u/LGQHMLHMsEbkCW1e > > g0BdU5FXzAA= > > =ZNWl > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jan 22 06:15:39 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA21355 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 06:15:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ipt2.iptelecom.net.ua (ipt2.iptelecom.net.ua [195.123.29.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA21350 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 06:15:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sobomax@altavista.net) Received: from vega.pfts.com (async2-53.iptelecom.net.ua [195.123.29.118]) by ipt2.iptelecom.net.ua (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA24950; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 16:15:02 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from sobomax@altavista.net) Received: from altavista.net (big_brother [192.168.1.1]) by vega.pfts.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA12119; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 16:14:20 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from sobomax@altavista.net) Message-ID: <36A887D6.10F73F8E@altavista.net> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 16:14:47 +0200 From: Maxim Sobolev X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: ru,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jt CC: John Baldwin , "Morten A. Middelthon" , stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Joao Assad Subject: Re: World broken in RELENG_3 when making aout-to-elf bulid References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=x-user-defined Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dear John, As far as I know make world don't uses include files from /usr/include but rather uses includes from /usr/obj/... So please explain further why it should do the trick... Sincerely, Maxim Jt wrote: > Just make includes and try it again... > > On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, Maxim Sobolev wrote: > > > But I dont building PicoBSD and I have enough disk space here... > > > > Maxim > > > > John Baldwin wrote: > > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > > > > > On 22-Jan-99 Morten A. Middelthon wrote: > > > > On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, Joao Assad wrote: > > > > > > > >> I have exactly the same problem here.... no clue at all... > > > >> I even deleted my src and cvsuped it again.... and nada.. still get the > > > >> same error. > > > > > > > > Perhaps if you use -DNO_PAM it should compile. Read > > > > /usr/src/usr.bin/login/Makefile > > > > it's all there. > > > > > > Actually, you should pass -DNOPAM to make and it will set -DNO_PAM in CFLAGS. > > > For what it is worth, that is in there for compiling PicoBSD since it doesn't > > > have support for shared libraries (not enough space on the floppy) and cannot > > > use PAM. > > > > > > > -- > > > > Morten A. Middelthon > > > > Freenix Norge > > > > http://www.freenix.no/ > > > > > > - --- > > > > > > John Baldwin -- http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/ > > > PGP Key: http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/pgpkey.asc > > > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > Version: 2.6.2 > > > > > > iQCVAwUBNqiArLaE8XzBCodNAQEfdgP/YwMojLu4SsKgVy0iNoAY/S09gP7oVJx6 > > > Jcuc+tZ9qPKVhnepmmzdC5l9l/EqouMh2ND/Zca9Em2SN7kkaChGH2exsFvtZytu > > > EXEitNZ/1U+idLTCKPsTb6sIbfGAF/e8p73lCikZYkRow4u/LGQHMLHMsEbkCW1e > > > g0BdU5FXzAA= > > > =ZNWl > > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jan 22 06:19:46 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA21634 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 06:19:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from techpower.net (techpower.net [205.133.231.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA21629 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 06:19:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hometeam@techpower.net) Received: from localhost (hometeam@localhost) by techpower.net (8.9.2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA00713; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 09:19:12 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from hometeam@techpower.net) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 09:19:12 -0500 (EST) From: Jt To: Maxim Sobolev cc: John Baldwin , "Morten A. Middelthon" , stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Joao Assad Subject: Re: World broken in RELENG_3 when making aout-to-elf bulid In-Reply-To: <36A887D6.10F73F8E@altavista.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG cd /usr/src make includes On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, Maxim Sobolev wrote: > Dear John, > > As far as I know make world don't uses include files from /usr/include but rather > uses includes from /usr/obj/... So please explain further why it should do the > trick... > > Sincerely, > > Maxim > > Jt wrote: > > > Just make includes and try it again... > > > > On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, Maxim Sobolev wrote: > > > > > But I dont building PicoBSD and I have enough disk space here... > > > > > > Maxim > > > > > > John Baldwin wrote: > > > > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > > > > > > > On 22-Jan-99 Morten A. Middelthon wrote: > > > > > On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, Joao Assad wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> I have exactly the same problem here.... no clue at all... > > > > >> I even deleted my src and cvsuped it again.... and nada.. still get the > > > > >> same error. > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps if you use -DNO_PAM it should compile. Read > > > > > /usr/src/usr.bin/login/Makefile > > > > > it's all there. > > > > > > > > Actually, you should pass -DNOPAM to make and it will set -DNO_PAM in CFLAGS. > > > > For what it is worth, that is in there for compiling PicoBSD since it doesn't > > > > have support for shared libraries (not enough space on the floppy) and cannot > > > > use PAM. > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Morten A. Middelthon > > > > > Freenix Norge > > > > > http://www.freenix.no/ > > > > > > > > - --- > > > > > > > > John Baldwin -- http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/ > > > > PGP Key: http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/pgpkey.asc > > > > > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > Version: 2.6.2 > > > > > > > > iQCVAwUBNqiArLaE8XzBCodNAQEfdgP/YwMojLu4SsKgVy0iNoAY/S09gP7oVJx6 > > > > Jcuc+tZ9qPKVhnepmmzdC5l9l/EqouMh2ND/Zca9Em2SN7kkaChGH2exsFvtZytu > > > > EXEitNZ/1U+idLTCKPsTb6sIbfGAF/e8p73lCikZYkRow4u/LGQHMLHMsEbkCW1e > > > > g0BdU5FXzAA= > > > > =ZNWl > > > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jan 22 06:22:17 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA22039 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 06:22:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from techpower.net (techpower.net [205.133.231.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA22033 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 06:22:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hometeam@techpower.net) Received: from localhost (hometeam@localhost) by techpower.net (8.9.2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA00930; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 09:21:38 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from hometeam@techpower.net) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 09:21:38 -0500 (EST) From: Jt To: Maxim Sobolev cc: John Baldwin , "Morten A. Middelthon" , stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Joao Assad Subject: Re: World broken in RELENG_3 when making aout-to-elf bulid In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I wiped my /usr/obj cvsuped buildworld with a log file to track incase np at all...no errors at all.. On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, Jt wrote: > > cd /usr/src > make includes > > > On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, Maxim Sobolev wrote: > > > Dear John, > > > > As far as I know make world don't uses include files from /usr/include but rather > > uses includes from /usr/obj/... So please explain further why it should do the > > trick... > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Maxim > > > > Jt wrote: > > > > > Just make includes and try it again... > > > > > > On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, Maxim Sobolev wrote: > > > > > > > But I dont building PicoBSD and I have enough disk space here... > > > > > > > > Maxim > > > > > > > > John Baldwin wrote: > > > > > > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > > > > > > > > > On 22-Jan-99 Morten A. Middelthon wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, Joao Assad wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >> I have exactly the same problem here.... no clue at all... > > > > > >> I even deleted my src and cvsuped it again.... and nada.. still get the > > > > > >> same error. > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps if you use -DNO_PAM it should compile. Read > > > > > > /usr/src/usr.bin/login/Makefile > > > > > > it's all there. > > > > > > > > > > Actually, you should pass -DNOPAM to make and it will set -DNO_PAM in CFLAGS. > > > > > For what it is worth, that is in there for compiling PicoBSD since it doesn't > > > > > have support for shared libraries (not enough space on the floppy) and cannot > > > > > use PAM. > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Morten A. Middelthon > > > > > > Freenix Norge > > > > > > http://www.freenix.no/ > > > > > > > > > > - --- > > > > > > > > > > John Baldwin -- http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/ > > > > > PGP Key: http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/pgpkey.asc > > > > > > > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > > Version: 2.6.2 > > > > > > > > > > iQCVAwUBNqiArLaE8XzBCodNAQEfdgP/YwMojLu4SsKgVy0iNoAY/S09gP7oVJx6 > > > > > Jcuc+tZ9qPKVhnepmmzdC5l9l/EqouMh2ND/Zca9Em2SN7kkaChGH2exsFvtZytu > > > > > EXEitNZ/1U+idLTCKPsTb6sIbfGAF/e8p73lCikZYkRow4u/LGQHMLHMsEbkCW1e > > > > > g0BdU5FXzAA= > > > > > =ZNWl > > > > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jan 22 06:26:20 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA22236 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 06:26:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bentley.queens.unimelb.edu.au (bentley.queens.unimelb.edu.au [203.28.244.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA22229 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 06:26:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bromage@bentley.queens.unimelb.edu.au) Received: (from bromage@localhost) by bentley.queens.unimelb.edu.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA02724; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 01:25:31 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from bromage) Message-ID: <19990123012531.42370@queens.unimelb.edu.au> Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 01:25:31 +1100 From: Andrew Bromage To: Wes Peters , Jeremy Shaffner Cc: Jt , stable@FreeBSD.ORG, jkh@cdrom.com Subject: Re: end of 2.2-stable support and the future of ports References: <36A7DC55.2C8E66D5@softweyr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <36A7DC55.2C8E66D5@softweyr.com>; from Wes Peters on Thu, Jan 21, 1999 at 07:03:01PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG G'day all. On Thu, Jan 21, 1999 at 07:03:01PM -0700, Wes Peters wrote: > Oh come on guys! This should CERTAINLY be shortened to Feb 14th! And > stick a big AsciiCAD heart in the /etc/motd. ;^) I was thinking... should I? Shouldn't I? What the hell... http://www.queens.unimelb.edu.au/~bromage/heart.txt (My ASCII art is usually much better than this. Give me a break, it's 1:30 am and I'm desparately trying to put off my thesis here...) Cheers, Andrew Bromage To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jan 22 06:38:09 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA23230 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 06:38:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from k6n1.znh.org ([207.109.235.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA23222 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 06:38:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from zach@uffdaonline.net) Received: (from zach@localhost) by k6n1.znh.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA43962; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 14:37:35 GMT (envelope-from zach) Message-ID: <19990122083735.A43891@znh.org> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 08:37:35 -0600 From: Zach Heilig To: W Gerald Hicks , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RELENG_3 not in CVSROOT/val-tags References: <199901220707.CAA02963@bellsouth.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <199901220707.CAA02963@bellsouth.net>; from W Gerald Hicks on Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 02:07:06AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 02:07:06AM -0500, W Gerald Hicks wrote: > I'm not sure how this is normally updated but it was necessary for > me to add the following line to CVSROOT/val-tags before I was able > to checkout the new -stable branch. > > RELENG_3 y It is added by a successful checkout/update for the specific tag. If you want to save it some time, you could update in a directory without a lot of subdirectories (like /usr/src/tools) first: $ cd /usr/src/tools $ cvs -q update -PdA -r RELENG_3 [ or you could manually add it, but that could be more error prone ] -- Zach Heilig / Zach Heilig To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jan 22 09:09:09 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA09173 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 09:09:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rachel (mail.glenatl.glenayre.com [157.230.160.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA09164 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 09:09:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhicks@glenatl.glenayre.com) Received: from jhicks.glenatl.glenayre.com by rachel (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA02823; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 11:58:46 -0500 Received: from jhicks.glenatl.glenayre.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jhicks.glenatl.glenayre.com (8.9.2/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA07986; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 16:59:52 GMT Message-Id: <199901221659.QAA07986@jhicks.glenatl.glenayre.com> To: Wes Peters cc: Jeremy Shaffner , Jt , stable@FreeBSD.ORG, jkh@cdrom.com, jhicks@jhicks.glenatl.glenayre.com Subject: Re: end of 2.2-stable support and the future of ports In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 21 Jan 1999 19:03:01 MST." <36A7DC55.2C8E66D5@softweyr.com> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 16:59:52 +0000 From: Jerry Hicks Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Oh come on guys! This should CERTAINLY be shortened to Feb 14th! And > stick a big AsciiCAD heart in the /etc/motd. ;^) Yes! The Valentine's Day Massacre (of other OS's :-) Cheers, Jerry Hicks jerry.hicks@glenayre.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jan 22 10:06:48 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA16144 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 10:06:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (quackerjack.cc.vt.edu [198.82.160.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA16139 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 10:06:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jobaldwi@vt.edu) Received: from sable.cc.vt.edu (sable.cc.vt.edu [128.173.16.30]) by quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA21071; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 13:06:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from john.baldwin.cx (jobaldwi.campus.vt.edu [198.82.67.63]) by sable.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA31468; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 13:06:29 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <36A881C0.F21025E2@altavista.net> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 13:07:56 -0500 (EST) From: John Baldwin To: Maxim Sobolev Subject: Re: World broken in RELENG_3 when making aout-to-elf bulid Cc: Joao Assad , stable@FreeBSD.ORG, "Morten A. Middelthon" , John Baldwin Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On 22-Jan-99 Maxim Sobolev wrote: > But I dont building PicoBSD and I have enough disk space here... > > Maxim > > John Baldwin wrote: > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> >> On 22-Jan-99 Morten A. Middelthon wrote: >> > On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, Joao Assad wrote: >> > >> >> I have exactly the same problem here.... no clue at all... >> >> I even deleted my src and cvsuped it again.... and nada.. still get the >> >> same error. >> > >> > Perhaps if you use -DNO_PAM it should compile. Read >> > /usr/src/usr.bin/login/Makefile >> > it's all there. >> >> Actually, you should pass -DNOPAM to make and it will set -DNO_PAM in >> CFLAGS. >> For what it is worth, that is in there for compiling PicoBSD since it >> doesn't >> have support for shared libraries (not enough space on the floppy) and >> cannot >> use PAM. >> >> > -- >> > Morten A. Middelthon >> > Freenix Norge >> > http://www.freenix.no/ >> >> - --- >> >> John Baldwin -- http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/ >> PGP Key: http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/pgpkey.asc My point was that a) the Makefile in /usr/src/usr.bin/login turns off PAM if it is executed with NOPAM defined in the environment or on the command line and b) this option exists for use in PicoBSD builds, and is not there for FreeBSD builds, although I suppose that you are free to use it if you wish. - --- John Baldwin -- http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/ PGP Key: http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/pgpkey.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBNqi8wLaE8XzBCodNAQFIFwP/XPpswqkTfCXeEWrXpBzR5nWqCzykIHiX GA1aeWOKYyzPsGW/HwaJG7KAzUMp4KK/2FqanRS/ZW6SU08A59x3QbMR+xJTye2n uMekdXyGeqhpjw2S+KCdcUTvl7vdEZWDso/0o/XvW+/NYegaW1GAWh/JZMM4yf1N vSjWUSWBodA= =8kP3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jan 22 13:23:24 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA15443 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 13:23:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jingoro.prevmed.sunysb.edu (jingoro.prevmed.sunysb.edu [129.49.123.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA15436 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 13:23:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cfanning@jingoro.prevmed.sunysb.edu) Received: (from cfanning@localhost) by jingoro.prevmed.sunysb.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA09109 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 16:23:02 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cfanning) From: Chris Fanning Message-Id: <199901222123.QAA09109@jingoro.prevmed.sunysb.edu> Subject: 3.0-stable snapshots? To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 16:23:02 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a machine that has been tracking stable since 2.2 release (or even earlier) and have been waiting for 3.0 stable to do a hardware upgrade (SMP) and fresh installation. I can imagine I've accumulated a lot of gunk over the ages... That said, will there be a snapshot that I just download and install from of 3.0-stable? I mean, a snapshot that I won't have to do the a.out to ELF process, etc.? The snapshot server doesn't seem to have made the move to 3.0 stable yet. Chris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jan 22 14:42:03 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA25440 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 14:42:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from solar.os.com (solar.os.com [209.113.221.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA25423 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 14:41:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from craigs@os.com) Received: from fargo (fargo.os.com [209.113.221.2]) by solar.os.com (8.7/8.7.0) with SMTP id SAA32031 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 18:00:45 -0500 Message-ID: <000b01be4657$c386e810$02dd71d1@fargo.os.com> From: "Craig Shrimpton" To: Subject: Is this core normal or something sinister? Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 17:37:10 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I found this in my dmesg queue. I've not seen this one before and I'm wondering if this is some kind of crack or a normal crash. "pid 18958 (conftest), uid 0: exited on signal 6 (core dumped)" I don't have a clue to what conftest is. -Craig To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jan 22 14:50:58 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA26406 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 14:50:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cerebus.nectar.com (nectar-gw.nectar.com [204.0.249.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA26399 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 14:50:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nectar@nectar.com) Received: (from smap@localhost) by cerebus.nectar.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA08032; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 16:49:59 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from nectar@nectar.com) Received: from spawn.nectar.com(10.0.0.101) by cerebus.nectar.com via smap (V2.1) id xma008030; Fri, 22 Jan 99 16:49:56 -0600 Received: from spawn.nectar.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spawn.nectar.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA44688; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 16:49:55 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from nectar@spawn.nectar.com) Message-Id: <199901222249.QAA44688@spawn.nectar.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 X-PGP-RSAfprint: 00 F9 E6 A2 C5 4D 0A 76 26 8B 8B 57 73 D0 DE EE X-PGP-RSAkey: http://www.nectar.com/nectar-pgp262.txt From: Jacques Vidrine In-reply-to: <000b01be4657$c386e810$02dd71d1@fargo.os.com> References: <000b01be4657$c386e810$02dd71d1@fargo.os.com> Subject: Re: Is this core normal or something sinister? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii To: "Craig Shrimpton" cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 16:49:55 -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Were you configuring and installing software at the time that uses GNU configure? Many of the applications (most?) in the ports collection use GNU configure. conftest is the name of the small test C programs that GNU configure compiles when attempting to test things on your system, such as determining the size of an ``int'' or what terminal routines are available. Jacques Vidrine / n@nectar.com / nectar@FreeBSD.org On 22 January 1999 at 17:37, "Craig Shrimpton" wrote: > I found this in my dmesg queue. I've not seen this one before and I'm > wondering if this is some kind of crack or a normal crash. > > "pid 18958 (conftest), uid 0: exited on signal 6 (core dumped)" > > I don't have a clue to what conftest is. > > -Craig > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jan 22 16:00:38 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA05704 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 16:00:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from megaweapon.zigg.com (megaweapon.zigg.com [206.114.60.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA05695 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 16:00:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from matt@zigg.com) Received: from localhost (matt@localhost) by megaweapon.zigg.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id SAA19694; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 18:55:56 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from matt@zigg.com) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 18:55:55 -0500 (EST) From: Matt Behrens To: Craig Shrimpton cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Is this core normal or something sinister? In-Reply-To: <000b01be4657$c386e810$02dd71d1@fargo.os.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, Craig Shrimpton wrote: : I found this in my dmesg queue. I've not seen this one before and I'm : wondering if this is some kind of crack or a normal crash. : : "pid 18958 (conftest), uid 0: exited on signal 6 (core dumped)" : : I don't have a clue to what conftest is. conftest is generally part of some configure script. Signal 6 is the abort signal, which I don't really understand myself, except that I've seen pine do it before. :) - Matt Behrens Network Administrator, zigg.com Engineer, Nameless IRC Network To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jan 22 16:03:09 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA06129 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 16:03:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from megaweapon.zigg.com (megaweapon.zigg.com [206.114.60.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA06120 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 16:03:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from matt@zigg.com) Received: from localhost (matt@localhost) by megaweapon.zigg.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id SAA19679; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 18:54:20 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from matt@zigg.com) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 18:54:19 -0500 (EST) From: Matt Behrens To: Chris Fanning cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3.0-stable snapshots? In-Reply-To: <199901222123.QAA09109@jingoro.prevmed.sunysb.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, Chris Fanning wrote: : The snapshot server doesn't seem to have made the move to 3.0 stable : yet. Last I heard, jkh was still working on making the floppy image fit inside a 1.44MB floppy again. It wasn't doing so for a little while. :) Keep watching the server. - Matt Behrens Network Administrator, zigg.com Engineer, Nameless IRC Network To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jan 22 16:28:47 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA10863 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 16:28:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from netrinsics.com ([210.74.177.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA10834 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 16:28:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from robinson@netrinsics.com) Received: (from robinson@localhost) by netrinsics.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id IAA02564; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 08:22:17 GMT (envelope-from robinson) Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 08:22:17 GMT From: Michael Robinson Message-Id: <199901230822.IAA02564@netrinsics.com> To: cfanning@jingoro.prevmed.sunysb.edu, matt@zigg.com Subject: Re: 3.0-stable snapshots? Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Matt Behrens wrote: >On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, Chris Fanning wrote: > >: The snapshot server doesn't seem to have made the move to 3.0 stable >: yet. > >Last I heard, jkh was still working on making the floppy image fit >inside a 1.44MB floppy again. It wasn't doing so for a little >while. :) > >Keep watching the server. Does this mean that .../3.0.0-19990112-SNAP/bin/ contains a.out binaries? -Michael Robinson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jan 22 16:31:27 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA11200 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 16:31:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from goshen.rutgers.edu (goshen.rutgers.edu [165.230.180.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA11192 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 16:31:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from damascus@eden.rutgers.edu) Received: from damascus (damascus.dorm.rutgers.edu [165.230.124.139]) by goshen.rutgers.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA19501; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 19:27:45 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990122193125.007ff690@email.eden.rutgers.edu> X-Sender: damascus@email.eden.rutgers.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 19:31:25 -0500 To: "Craig Shrimpton" , From: Carroll Kong Subject: Re: Is this core normal or something sinister? In-Reply-To: <000b01be4657$c386e810$02dd71d1@fargo.os.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 05:37 PM 1/22/99 -0500, Craig Shrimpton wrote: >I found this in my dmesg queue. I've not seen this one before and I'm >wondering if this is some kind of crack or a normal crash. > >"pid 18958 (conftest), uid 0: exited on signal 6 (core dumped)" > >I don't have a clue to what conftest is. > >-Craig I got this error on occasion as well. I think after a while of cvsupping and recompiling the kernel, it disappeared. Did you just cvsup recently? -Carroll Kong To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jan 22 18:00:21 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA21673 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 18:00:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from megaweapon.zigg.com (megaweapon.zigg.com [206.114.60.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA21664 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 18:00:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from matt@zigg.com) Received: from localhost (matt@localhost) by megaweapon.zigg.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id UAA19868; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 20:55:48 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from matt@zigg.com) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 20:55:48 -0500 (EST) From: Matt Behrens To: Michael Robinson cc: cfanning@jingoro.prevmed.sunysb.edu, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3.0-stable snapshots? In-Reply-To: <199901230822.IAA02564@netrinsics.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Nope, not at all... I installed from 19990112, in fact, and I have a full ELF system. (Actually, you can install 19990112 from floppy, despite the 2.88MB image -- you can make floppies out of kern.flp and mfsroot.flp.) On Sat, 23 Jan 1999, Michael Robinson wrote: : Matt Behrens wrote: : >On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, Chris Fanning wrote: : > : >: The snapshot server doesn't seem to have made the move to 3.0 stable : >: yet. : > : >Last I heard, jkh was still working on making the floppy image fit : >inside a 1.44MB floppy again. It wasn't doing so for a little : >while. :) : > : >Keep watching the server. : : Does this mean that .../3.0.0-19990112-SNAP/bin/ contains a.out binaries? - Matt Behrens Network Administrator, zigg.com Engineer, Nameless IRC Network To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jan 22 19:00:19 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA29246 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 19:00:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA29240 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 19:00:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA28903; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 19:00:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) From: John Polstra Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA11211; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 19:00:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 19:00:07 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199901230300.TAA11211@vashon.polstra.com> To: damascus@eden.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Is this core normal or something sinister? Newsgroups: polstra.freebsd.stable In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990122193125.007ff690@email.eden.rutgers.edu> Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article <3.0.5.32.19990122193125.007ff690@email.eden.rutgers.edu>, Carroll Kong wrote: > At 05:37 PM 1/22/99 -0500, Craig Shrimpton wrote: > >I found this in my dmesg queue. I've not seen this one before and I'm > >wondering if this is some kind of crack or a normal crash. > > > >"pid 18958 (conftest), uid 0: exited on signal 6 (core dumped)" > > > >I don't have a clue to what conftest is. > > > >-Craig > > I got this error on occasion as well. I think after a while of cvsupping > and recompiling the kernel, it disappeared. Did you just cvsup recently? Hang on, guys. Somebody was running a program named "conftest" and it got an assertion failure. There's nothing more to it than that. John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Nobody ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." -- H. L. Mencken To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jan 22 19:25:57 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA03511 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 19:25:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from vader.cs.berkeley.edu (vader.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.38.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA03505 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 19:25:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asami@vader.cs.berkeley.edu) Received: from silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (sji-ca9-34.ix.netcom.com [209.109.236.34]) by vader.cs.berkeley.edu (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA22744 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 19:25:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (8.9.1/8.6.9) id TAA97147; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 19:25:37 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 19:25:37 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199901230325.TAA97147@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <36A75DD4.41C67EA6@acm.org> (message from Gabor Kincses on Thu, 21 Jan 1999 11:03:16 -0600) Subject: Re: end of 2.2-stable support and the future of ports From: asami@FreeBSD.ORG (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Nothing new here, but I just wanted to clarify the rationale. I understand that there are a lot of people still using 2.2.X machines, many of them in mission-critical applications. That's why I insisted that we keep supporting 2.2.X for so long. (Hey, how many of you noticed that 2.2.X was still supported by the ports team for almost three months after the final release (2.2.8)? You should have been there to listen to them grumble when I announced *that* plan. :) The issue here is simply that we do not have enough people to work on three branches. We're already stretching our human resources pretty thin with two; it's just not possible with three. Also, we're asking the port submitters a huge favor by requiring them to ensure that a port works on more than one branch. We can't keep doing that for a branch that is being obsoleted pretty soon for ordinary users. So, unless some of you come forward and say "Me!!! I'll take care of the 2.2.X ports!!! I'll build all the packages and fix the errors!!!" or you mission-critical types come up with enough $$$cash$$$ so we can hire someone to work full-time on 2.2.X ports only for the next few months, I'm afraid there's nothing I can do about it. ;) Satoshi (and the unfatigueable ports team) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jan 22 19:33:10 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA04236 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 19:33:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sims-ha.videotron.net (faure.videotron.net [205.151.222.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA04229 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 19:33:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luc_m@videotron.ca) Received: from videotron.ca (ppp179.112.msherb.videotron.net) by sims-ha.videotron.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1998.09.21.23.34) with ESMTP id <0F5Z003SGTUG81@sims-ha.videotron.net> for stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 22:32:44 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 22:34:42 -0500 From: Luc Morin Subject: 2.2.8-stable to 3.0-stable info needed To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: <36A94352.76443785@videotron.ca> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.8-STABLE i386) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, There seems to be a lot of scattered information on the move from 2.2 to 3.0, but is there any central and authoritative resource on the exact steps involved ? Also, what will become of those things that used to be part of 2.2 but that are not part of 3.0 ? I'm thinking about perl4 being replaced by perl5. Will I have to remove all the perl4 stuff manually ? What else will I need to remove ? Thank you. Luc Morin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jan 22 20:30:48 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA10841 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 20:30:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from tolstoy.mpd.ca (mpd.ca [206.123.11.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA10818 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 20:30:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wlloyd@tolstoy.mpd.ca) Received: (from wlloyd@localhost) by tolstoy.mpd.ca (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA05660; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 23:31:51 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from wlloyd) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 23:31:50 -0500 From: William Lloyd To: Luc Morin Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2.2.8-stable to 3.0-stable info needed Message-ID: <19990122233150.A5604@tolstoy.mpd.ca> References: <36A94352.76443785@videotron.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: <36A94352.76443785@videotron.ca>; from Luc Morin on Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 10:34:42PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 10:34:42PM -0500, Luc Morin wrote: > Hi, > > There seems to be a lot of scattered information on the move from 2.2 to > 3.0, but is there any central and authoritative resource on the exact > steps involved ? > Not that I've found. I would expect that after 3.1 is released documentation for upgrading will be availible. I've done it on two 2.2 machines now. It is not hard. I would suggest that you read some current archives at http://www.freebsd.org/mail and I use the search engine at http://www.progressive-comp.com/Lists/?l=freebsd-current&r=1&w=2#freebsd-current to look for others advice. Basically I did *Upgrade from 2.2-x to 2.2-STABLE (do a make world) *Get 3.0 sources with cvsup read the /usr/src/Makefile *do 'make aout-to-elf' *install new bootblocks (search mailing list) *make new kernel *reboot *upgrade /etc This is not needed but *I run another make world again I wouldn't even try to upgrade a machine low on drive space or processor power (like a 386sx). Do a binary upgrade if you must, or get a more current computer from a scrap heap. Last time I did a make world on a 8MB 386sx-16Mhz it took a week. > Also, what will become of those things that used to be part of 2.2 but > that are not part of 3.0 ? I'm thinking about perl4 being replaced by > perl5. Will I have to remove all the perl4 stuff manually ? What else > will I need to remove ? > Everything that comes with FreeBSD is already replaced or moved to aout subdirectories (like lib stuff). It's reasonably painless except for /etc merging. I found that xemacs compare two directories saves a lot of pain. I would recommend backing up your system and trying the upgrade process first on a workstation before doing a production server. Get fixit floppies ( make sure they work ). I found the fixit floppy didn't work in recent current snaps. Lovely weather. -bill -- William Lloyd mailto:wlloyd@mpd.ca | http://www.mpd.ca To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jan 22 20:32:47 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA11316 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 20:32:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hun.org (hun.org [207.49.60.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA11310 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 20:32:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from attila@hun.org) Received: from localhost (attila@localhost) by hun.org (8.9.1/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA18776; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 04:31:50 GMT (envelope-from attila@hun.org) Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 04:31:49 +0000 (GMT) From: attila Reply-To: attila@hun.org To: "Chad R. Larson" cc: Jerry Hicks , gabor@acm.org, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: end of 2.2-stable support and the future of ports In-Reply-To: <199901220502.WAA17347@freeway.dcfinc.com> Message-ID: Owner: attila@hun.org Organization: home for unpenitent hackers and anarcho-cryptophreaks Encrypted: NO MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG why dont you purchase the 2.2.8 final distribution set from WC-CDROM --it has all that speak off according to the announcements that 2.2.8 was a frozen point in time and all changes were made to 3_0-RELEASE --> CURRENT? for the few changes added after the CD, pick up the diffs by using first the CD and then cvsup; the log files in /usr/local/etc/cvsup/sup/... will give you the delta list. On Thu, 21 Jan 1999, Chad R. Larson wrote: >As I recall, Jerry Hicks wrote: >> >> I doubt that a year from now WC-CDROM will see enough demand to >> justify keeping a "Classic" 2.2.8-STABLE snapshot CD set around, >> although they might if demand justifies it. > >Actually, I'd buy a CD-ROM set that consisted of an installation set and >then the whole ports collection for 2.2-stable and the distfiles that go >with them. > >Think that'd fit on 2 CD-ROMS? > >How about it, Walnut Creek? > > -crl >-- >Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? >chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org chad@anasazi.com larson1@home.net >DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > __________________________________________________________________________ go not unto usenet for advice, for the inhabitants thereof will say: yes, and no, and maybe, and I don't know, and fuck-off. _________________________________________________________________ attila__ To be a ruler of men, you need at least 12 inches.... There is no safety this side of the grave. Never was; never will be. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jan 22 21:42:13 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA17363 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 21:42:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from kendra.ne.mediaone.net (kendra.ne.mediaone.net [24.128.94.182]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA17353 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 21:42:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from software@kew.com) Received: from sonata.hh.kew.com (root@sonata-dmz.hh.kew.com [192.168.205.1]) by kendra.ne.mediaone.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA17713 for ; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 00:42:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from kew.com (minerva.hh.kew.com [192.168.203.144]) by sonata.hh.kew.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA29767 for ; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 00:41:59 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <36A96126.C7C58DE4@kew.com> Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 00:41:58 -0500 From: Drew Derbyshire Organization: Kendra Electronic Wonderworks, Stoneham, MA 02180 (http://www.kew.com) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: which one References: <36A7EBDA.14003849@netshell.vicosa.com.br> <19990122005933.A16543@holly.dyndns.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Chris Costello wrote: > It's available via CVS if you change the tag in the supfile to RELENG_3 > (or there might be a 3.0-STABLE supfile up on the website already) > > *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_3 > > Enjoy 3.0-STABLE! I should remember this, but ... what do I feed the cvs-supfile to snarf ALL releases? -- Drew Derbyshire UUPC/extended e-mail: software@kew.com Telephone: 617-279-9812 "An experienced, industrious, ambitious, and often quite picturesque liar." - Mark Twain To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jan 22 22:32:21 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA22149 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 22:32:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA22144 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 22:32:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA29626; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 22:32:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) From: John Polstra Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA12095; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 22:32:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 22:32:08 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199901230632.WAA12095@vashon.polstra.com> To: software@kew.com Subject: Re: which one Newsgroups: polstra.freebsd.stable In-Reply-To: <36A96126.C7C58DE4@kew.com> References: <36A7EBDA.14003849@netshell.vicosa.com.br> <19990122005933.A16543@holly.dyndns.org> Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article <36A96126.C7C58DE4@kew.com>, Drew Derbyshire wrote: > I should remember this, but ... what do I feed the cvs-supfile to > snarf ALL releases? If you want access to all releases, or even to just two, you're best off CVSupping the CVS repository. In a nutshell, you omit the "tag" and "date" statements in the cvsupfile, and point "prefix" to someplace like "/home/ncvs" -- NOT to your actual source tree. For more information, RTFM cvsup(1), look at the examples in "/usr/share/examples/cvsup/", and read the CVSup FAQ, which is at . And then learn how to use CVS. John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Nobody ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." -- H. L. Mencken To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jan 23 01:13:01 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA04821 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 01:13:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA04812 for ; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 01:12:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA19363; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 02:12:15 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <199901230912.CAA19363@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: end of 2.2-stable support and the future of ports In-Reply-To: from attila at "Jan 23, 99 04:31:49 am" To: attila@hun.org Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 02:12:15 -0700 (MST) Cc: jhicks@glenatl.glenayre.com, gabor@acm.org, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-to: chad@DCFinc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As I recall, attila wrote: > > why dont you purchase the 2.2.8 final distribution set from > WC-CDROM --it has all that speak off according to the > announcements that 2.2.8 was a frozen point in time and all > changes were made to 3_0-RELEASE --> CURRENT? for the few > changes added after the CD, pick up the diffs by using first > the CD and then cvsup; the log files in /usr/local/etc/cvsup/sup/... > will give you the delta list. Been there. My web and ftp server is at 2.1-STABLE (built from the 2.1.7 CD set). I bought several copies of 2.1.7, because I expected to run it for some time. Unfortunately, not all the distfiles are on the CDs, and the last time I went looking for one on the net, it was a long search. I finally wound up back-porting something from the 2.2 tree. I now own two copies of the 2.2.8 set. But we've still the issue about having every distfile for every port, when two years down the road I want to build ... -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org chad@anasazi.com larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jan 23 01:29:12 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA05891 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 01:29:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (osmium.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA05886 for ; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 01:29:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wilko@yedi.iaf.nl) Received: by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl with UUCP id AA20250 (5.67b/IDA-1.5); Sat, 23 Jan 1999 10:22:19 +0100 Received: (from wilko@localhost) by yedi.iaf.nl (8.8.8/8.6.12) id KAA27099; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 10:07:34 +0100 (CET) From: Wilko Bulte Message-Id: <199901230907.KAA27099@yedi.iaf.nl> Subject: Re: which one In-Reply-To: <199901230632.WAA12095@vashon.polstra.com> from John Polstra at "Jan 22, 99 10:32:08 pm" To: jdp@polstra.com (John Polstra) Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 10:07:34 +0100 (CET) Cc: software@kew.com, stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Organisation: Private FreeBSD site - Arnhem, The Netherlands X-Pgp-Info: PGP public key at 'finger wilko@freefall.freebsd.org' X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As John Polstra wrote... > In article <36A96126.C7C58DE4@kew.com>, Drew Derbyshire > wrote: > > > I should remember this, but ... what do I feed the cvs-supfile to > > snarf ALL releases? > > If you want access to all releases, or even to just two, you're > best off CVSupping the CVS repository. In a nutshell, you omit the > "tag" and "date" statements in the cvsupfile, and point "prefix" > to someplace like "/home/ncvs" -- NOT to your actual source tree. > For more information, RTFM cvsup(1), look at the examples in > "/usr/share/examples/cvsup/", and read the CVSup FAQ, which is at > . Just to satisfy my curiosity: how big is the complete CVS repository? Wilko _ ______________________________________________________________________ | / o / / _ Bulte email: wilko@yedi.iaf.nl |/|/ / / /( (_) Arnhem, The Netherlands WWW : http://www.tcja.nl ______________________________________________ Powered by FreeBSD __________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jan 23 03:31:22 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA16083 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 03:31:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from alushta.NL.net (alushta.NL.net [193.78.240.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA16062 for ; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 03:31:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from benst@terminus.stuyts.nl) Received: from stuyts by alushta.NL.net with UUCP id <4794-22297>; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 12:30:39 +0100 Received: from daneel.stuyts.nl (daneel.stuyts.nl [193.78.231.7]) by terminus.stuyts.nl (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA53518 for ; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 12:17:47 +0100 (MET) (envelope-from benst) Received: (from benst@localhost) by daneel.stuyts.nl (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA09998 for stable@freebsd.org; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 12:17:52 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199901231117.MAA09998@daneel.stuyts.nl> Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 1.2) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.118.2) From: Ben Stuyts Date: Sat, 23 Jan 99 12:17:49 +0100 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Can't find X333src on CD's Reply-To: ben@stuyts.nl Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I am trying to locate the source for XFree (X333src*) on the 2.2.8 CD's, but I can't find them. I can only find the contrib source on the fourth cd in distfiles/xc, but the main part seems to be missing. Am I just overlooking something? Please tell me before I go off ftp-ing it from the net. Thanks, Ben To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jan 23 07:01:44 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA09324 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 07:01:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from kendra.ne.mediaone.net (kendra.ne.mediaone.net [24.128.94.182]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA09315 for ; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 07:01:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from software@kew.com) Received: from sonata.hh.kew.com (root@sonata-dmz.hh.kew.com [192.168.205.1]) by kendra.ne.mediaone.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA20226 for ; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 10:01:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from kew.com (minerva.hh.kew.com [192.168.203.144]) by sonata.hh.kew.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA03385 for ; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 10:01:29 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <36A9E448.B2CD9354@kew.com> Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 10:01:28 -0500 From: Drew Derbyshire Organization: Kendra Electronic Wonderworks, Stoneham, MA 02180 (http://www.kew.com) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: CVSUP for dummies (was Re: which one) References: <36A7EBDA.14003849@netshell.vicosa.com.br> <19990122005933.A16543@holly.dyndns.org> <199901230632.WAA12095@vashon.polstra.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG John Polstra wrote: > In article <36A96126.C7C58DE4@kew.com>, Drew Derbyshire > wrote: > > > I should remember this, but ... what do I feed the cvs-supfile to > > snarf ALL releases? > > If you want access to all releases, or even to just two, you're > best off CVSupping the CVS repository. In a nutshell, you omit the > "tag" and "date" statements in the cvsupfile, Looks like the sample cvs-supfile from 2.2.8 already omits these statements. (The directory /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ as a number of samples, for those behind even me on the curve. I'm referring to the file cvs-supfile in this directory) > and point "prefix" > to someplace like "/home/ncvs" -- NOT to your actual source tree. That I know. I was running CVSUP all the time I was the worlds most invisible commiter. :-) > For more information, RTFM cvsup(1), look at the examples in > "/usr/share/examples/cvsup/", and read the CVSup FAQ, which is at > . Thanks for the pointer. > And then learn how to use CVS. Practice, practice, practice. :-) -- Drew Derbyshire UUPC/extended e-mail: software@kew.com Telephone: 617-279-9812 "Breathe deep, the gathering gloom | Cold-hearted orb that rules the night Pizza boxes fill your room | Dead flies in your ceiling light Roving roaches seal your doom | Pipes are grey and plaster white, Run right out and buy a broom, | But we decide which version's right You can use the rent money. | And which is a parody." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jan 23 08:30:33 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA18175 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 08:30:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cassiopeia.caprica.com ([208.153.245.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA18169 for ; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 08:30:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from frank@exit.com) Received: from exit.com (uucp@localhost) by cassiopeia.caprica.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id IAA06275; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 08:30:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from frank@exit.com) Received: from realtime.exit.com (realtime.exit.com [206.223.0.5]) by tinker.exit.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA01652; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 08:17:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from frank@tinker.exit.com) Received: (from frank@localhost) by realtime.exit.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA05591; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 08:17:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from frank) From: Frank Mayhar Message-Id: <199901231617.IAA05591@realtime.exit.com> Subject: Re: which one In-Reply-To: <199901230907.KAA27099@yedi.iaf.nl> from Wilko Bulte at "Jan 23, 1999 10: 7:34 am" To: wilko@yedi.iaf.nl (Wilko Bulte) Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 08:17:48 -0800 (PST) Cc: jdp@polstra.com, software@kew.com, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: frank@exit.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Wilko Bulte wrote: > Just to satisfy my curiosity: how big is the complete CVS repository? realtime# df /cvs Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/da2s1e 1016303 552690 382309 59% /cvs That's just the repository and a few CVSUP-related files. -- Frank Mayhar frank@exit.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jan 23 09:56:09 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA27921 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 09:56:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from slave1.aa.net (slave1.aa.net [204.157.220.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA27916 for ; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 09:56:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dbx@aa.net) Received: from okanogan.dbx.seattle.wa.us (cust59.max7.seattle-k56.aa.net [206.125.81.59]) by slave1.aa.net (8.9.1/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA23120 for ; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 09:55:56 -0800 X-Intended-For: Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 10:04:59 -0800 (PST) From: Doug Burks X-Sender: dbx@okanogan.dbx.seattle.wa.us To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RELENG_3 doc-all tag empty? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greetings, I have adjusted my CVSup script to keep up with the new stable branch. The RELENG_2_2 version had worked flawlessly, but my RELENG_3 version has a minor problem. The "doc-all" tag not only did not retrieve any documentation files, but it deleted all of my existing ones! More oddly, the temporary "sup" file was created and holds the full list of file names. Have I just botched something (I tacked the appropriate part of my CVSup script onto the end of this note), or was a tag not properly hooked up to "doc-all" in the branch? Any information/help appreciated. Thanks! Doug Burks 'Tis better to remain silent and be thought a fool dbx@aa.net than to put up a Web site and remove all doubt *default host=cvsup2.FreeBSD.org *default base=/u1/dbx/tmp *default release=cvs *default delete use-rel-suffix src-all tag=RELENG_3 prefix=/usr cvs-crypto tag=RELENG_3 prefix=/usr doc-all tag=RELENG_3 prefix=/usr src-all tag=. prefix=/usr/current cvs-crypto tag=. prefix=/usr/current doc-all tag=. prefix=/usr/current ports-all tag=. prefix=/usr www tag=. prefix=/usr Doug Burks 'Tis better to remain silent and be thought a fool dbx@aa.net than to put up a Web site and remove all doubt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jan 23 10:52:03 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA02023 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 10:52:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA02000 for ; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 10:51:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA04499; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 10:51:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) From: John Polstra Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA15987; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 10:51:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 10:51:45 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199901231851.KAA15987@vashon.polstra.com> To: dbx@aa.net Subject: Re: RELENG_3 doc-all tag empty? Newsgroups: polstra.freebsd.stable In-Reply-To: Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article , Doug Burks wrote: > Greetings, > > I have adjusted my CVSup script to keep up with the new stable branch. > The RELENG_2_2 version had worked flawlessly, but my RELENG_3 version > has a minor problem. The "doc-all" tag not only did not retrieve any > documentation files, but it deleted all of my existing ones! Bummer. We use branches only on the main source tree. We don't branch the doc, ports, or www trees. That means you must use "tag=RELENG_3" only for collections in the main source tree. For doc, ports, and www you should use "tag=." John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Nobody ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." -- H. L. Mencken To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jan 23 13:23:47 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA17485 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 13:23:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from net177138.hcv.com (net177138.hcv.com [209.153.177.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA17453 for ; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 13:23:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from matthew@wolfepub.com) Received: from thunder ([10.0.0.12]) by net177138.hcv.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA07208 for ; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 16:19:18 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from matthew@wolfepub.com) Message-Id: <4.1.19990123161158.009e7970@firebat.wolfepub.com> X-Sender: matthew@firebat.wolfepub.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 16:24:42 -0500 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Matthew Hagerty Subject: 3.0 to Stable and ELF Kernel Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greetings, I just CVSUPed my 3.0-Release with the RELENG_3 tag. Then I did a makeworld and makeinstall. I also compiled a custom kernel. All the steps went fine, no errors of any kind, but when I typed make install (for the kernel) I received a message that said I should ensure my /boot/loader can handle ELF kernels. I went ahead and did the make -DFORCE install and rebooted. Needless to say, I cannot boot with the kernel I made, however I can boot kernel.GENERIC. Is 3.0 an ELF system? I was under the impression that it was. Also, is the system I just made buy CVSUPing and rebuilding an ELF system? Just out curiosity I made a simple C program and compiled it. I got an a.out binary. I have seen many references on the web site to commands like aout-to-elf and such. Is this a step I have to perform? Thank you, Matthew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jan 23 13:42:11 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA19897 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 13:42:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from netrinsics.com ([210.74.173.72]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA19884 for ; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 13:42:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from robinson@netrinsics.com) Received: (from robinson@localhost) by netrinsics.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id FAA03726 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 24 Jan 1999 05:37:38 GMT (envelope-from robinson) Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 05:37:38 GMT From: Michael Robinson Message-Id: <199901240537.FAA03726@netrinsics.com> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cannot write /cvs/CVSROOT/val-tags Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Can someone explain why, when I use: cvs co -rRELENG_2_2 sys I get: cvs server: Updating sys But when I use: cvs co -rRELENG_3 sys I get: cvs [server aborted]: cannot write /cvs/CVSROOT/val-tags: Permission denied I'm stumped. -Michael Robinson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jan 23 14:06:34 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA22611 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 14:06:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from k6n1.znh.org ([207.109.235.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA22600 for ; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 14:06:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from zach@uffdaonline.net) Received: (from zach@localhost) by k6n1.znh.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA50978; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 22:08:15 GMT (envelope-from zach) Message-ID: <19990123160814.A50957@znh.org> Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 16:08:14 -0600 From: Zach Heilig To: Michael Robinson , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cannot write /cvs/CVSROOT/val-tags References: <199901240537.FAA03726@netrinsics.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <199901240537.FAA03726@netrinsics.com>; from Michael Robinson on Sun, Jan 24, 1999 at 05:37:38AM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Jan 24, 1999 at 05:37:38AM +0000, Michael Robinson wrote: > Can someone explain why, when I use: cvs co -rRELENG_2_2 sys > I get: > cvs server: Updating sys > But when I use: cvs co -rRELENG_3 sys > I get: > cvs [server aborted]: cannot write /cvs/CVSROOT/val-tags: Permission denied This can probably be fixed by typing: chmod +w /cvs/CVSROOT/val-tags If that doesn't work, figure out a way to manually edit /cvs/CVSROOT/val-tags and append this line: RELENG_3 y -- Zach Heilig / Zach Heilig To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jan 23 14:36:06 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA26335 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 14:36:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from netrinsics.com ([210.74.180.179]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA26292 for ; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 14:36:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from robinson@netrinsics.com) Received: (from robinson@localhost) by netrinsics.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id GAA04018; Sun, 24 Jan 1999 06:31:34 GMT (envelope-from robinson) Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 06:31:34 GMT From: Michael Robinson Message-Id: <199901240631.GAA04018@netrinsics.com> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, robinson@netrinsics.com, zach@uffdaonline.net Subject: Re: cannot write /cvs/CVSROOT/val-tags In-Reply-To: <19990123160814.A50957@znh.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Zach Heilig wrote: >On Sun, Jan 24, 1999 at 05:37:38AM +0000, Michael Robinson wrote: >> Can someone explain why, when I use: cvs co -rRELENG_2_2 sys >> I get: >> cvs server: Updating sys > >> But when I use: cvs co -rRELENG_3 sys >> I get: >> cvs [server aborted]: cannot write /cvs/CVSROOT/val-tags: Permission denied > >This can probably be fixed by typing: > >chmod +w /cvs/CVSROOT/val-tags > >If that doesn't work, figure out a way to manually edit /cvs/CVSROOT/val-tags >and append this line: > >RELENG_3 y I tried this, and it doesn't work. The RELENG_2_2 tag works without any /cvs/CVSROOT directory at all. The RELENG_3 tag fails with a message "server aborted". Thus I suspect some problem on the server side (which I may be causing myself, for all I know). -Michael Robinson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jan 23 14:52:36 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA28007 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 14:52:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ceia.nordier.com (m1-6-dbn.dial-up.net [196.34.155.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA27995 for ; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 14:52:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rnordier@nordier.com) Received: (from rnordier@localhost) by ceia.nordier.com (8.8.7/8.6.12) id AAA14957; Sun, 24 Jan 1999 00:51:01 +0200 (SAT) From: Robert Nordier Message-Id: <199901232251.AAA14957@ceia.nordier.com> Subject: Re: 3.0 to Stable and ELF Kernel In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990123161158.009e7970@firebat.wolfepub.com> from Matthew Hagerty at "Jan 23, 99 04:24:42 pm" To: matthew@wolfepub.com (Matthew Hagerty) Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 00:50:59 +0200 (SAT) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Matthew Hagerty wrote: > I just CVSUPed my 3.0-Release with the RELENG_3 tag. Then I did a > makeworld and makeinstall. I also compiled a custom kernel. All the steps > went fine, no errors of any kind, but when I typed make install (for the > kernel) I received a message that said I should ensure my /boot/loader can > handle ELF kernels. I went ahead and did the make -DFORCE install and > rebooted. Needless to say, I cannot boot with the kernel I made, however I > can boot kernel.GENERIC. OK. I just answered your question on -hackers about updating your boot code. > Is 3.0 an ELF system? I was under the impression that it was. Also, is > the system I just made buy CVSUPing and rebuilding an ELF system? Just out > curiosity I made a simple C program and compiled it. I got an a.out binary. > > I have seen many references on the web site to commands like aout-to-elf > and such. Is this a step I have to perform? 3.0-RELEASE had a default binary type of ELF. You can use the objformat(1) command to check on your default, and a command like file /bin/ls to verify the format of your binaries. If you don't get ELF back in response, you will have to looking at an aout-to-elf upgrade. -- Robert Nordier To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jan 23 15:13:11 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA00489 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 15:13:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from net177138.hcv.com (net177138.hcv.com [209.153.177.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA00483 for ; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 15:13:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from matthew@wolfepub.com) Received: from thunder ([10.0.0.12]) by net177138.hcv.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA07295; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 18:08:35 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from matthew@wolfepub.com) Message-Id: <4.1.19990123180740.009ef2f0@firebat.wolfepub.com> X-Sender: matthew@firebat.wolfepub.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 18:13:58 -0500 To: Robert Nordier From: Matthew Hagerty Subject: Thank you (was Re: 3.0 to Stable and ELF Kernel) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199901232251.AAA14957@ceia.nordier.com> References: <4.1.19990123161158.009e7970@firebat.wolfepub.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Again, thank you, everyone. Nice commands to know: objformat and file. New bootblock went in on the first try. Actually *everything* worked on the first try (installing 3.0 from cd, CVSUPing to stable, make buildworld, make installworld, custom kernel, new bootblocks), without errors! Everyone on the FreeBSD team should be congratulated for a job *very* well done. One day I hope to be able to give back what I have been given. Thank you, Matthew At 12:50 AM 1/24/99 +0200, Robert Nordier wrote: >Matthew Hagerty wrote: > >> I just CVSUPed my 3.0-Release with the RELENG_3 tag. Then I did a >> makeworld and makeinstall. I also compiled a custom kernel. All the steps >> went fine, no errors of any kind, but when I typed make install (for the >> kernel) I received a message that said I should ensure my /boot/loader can >> handle ELF kernels. I went ahead and did the make -DFORCE install and >> rebooted. Needless to say, I cannot boot with the kernel I made, however I >> can boot kernel.GENERIC. > >OK. I just answered your question on -hackers about updating your boot >code. > >> Is 3.0 an ELF system? I was under the impression that it was. Also, is >> the system I just made buy CVSUPing and rebuilding an ELF system? Just out >> curiosity I made a simple C program and compiled it. I got an a.out binary. >> >> I have seen many references on the web site to commands like aout-to-elf >> and such. Is this a step I have to perform? > >3.0-RELEASE had a default binary type of ELF. You can use the >objformat(1) command to check on your default, and a command like > > file /bin/ls > >to verify the format of your binaries. If you don't get ELF back >in response, you will have to looking at an aout-to-elf upgrade. > >-- >Robert Nordier > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jan 23 15:46:57 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA03125 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 15:46:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from vader.cs.berkeley.edu (vader.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.38.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA03118 for ; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 15:46:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asami@vader.cs.berkeley.edu) Received: from silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (sji-ca9-34.ix.netcom.com [209.109.236.34]) by vader.cs.berkeley.edu (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA26884; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 15:46:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (8.9.1/8.6.9) id PAA29702; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 15:46:34 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 15:46:34 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199901232346.PAA29702@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> To: jdp@polstra.com CC: dbx@aa.net, stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <199901231851.KAA15987@vashon.polstra.com> (message from John Polstra on Sat, 23 Jan 1999 10:51:45 -0800 (PST)) Subject: Re: RELENG_3 doc-all tag empty? From: asami@FreeBSD.ORG (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * We use branches only on the main source tree. We don't branch the * doc, ports, or www trees. That means you must use "tag=RELENG_3" only * for collections in the main source tree. For doc, ports, and www you * should use "tag=." We get this exact same question (and the "what is the name of the new tag again?") from literally dozens of users every time we branch the tree. Can this info be displayed somewhere prominently? (Will you kill me if I list the RELENG_* tags in examples/cvsup/README?) It might be a good idea to put it even in the -current supfile, as it seems people modify that and don't see the warning in the -stable supfile about not using tags outside of src. Satoshi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jan 23 15:47:08 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA03147 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 15:47:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from polaris.we.lc.ehu.es (polaris.we.lc.ehu.es [158.227.6.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA03141 for ; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 15:47:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jose@we.lc.ehu.es) Received: from we.lc.ehu.es (lxpxew.lx.ehu.es [158.227.99.226]) by polaris.we.lc.ehu.es (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA05282; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 23:54:10 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <36AA5310.A4A41C1E@we.lc.ehu.es> Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 23:54:08 +0100 From: "José Mª Alcaide" Organization: Universidad del País Vasco - Dept. Electricidad y Electrónica X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.0-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthew Hagerty CC: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3.0 to Stable and ELF Kernel References: <4.1.19990123161158.009e7970@firebat.wolfepub.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Matthew Hagerty wrote: > I just CVSUPed my 3.0-Release with the RELENG_3 tag. Then I did a > makeworld and makeinstall. I also compiled a custom kernel. All the steps > went fine, no errors of any kind, but when I typed make install (for the > kernel) I received a message that said I should ensure my /boot/loader can > handle ELF kernels. I went ahead and did the make -DFORCE install and > rebooted. Needless to say, I cannot boot with the kernel I made, however I > can boot kernel.GENERIC. > > Is 3.0 an ELF system? I was under the impression that it was. Also, is > the system I just made buy CVSUPing and rebuilding an ELF system? Just out > curiosity I made a simple C program and compiled it. I got an a.out binary. > > I have seen many references on the web site to commands like aout-to-elf > and such. Is this a step I have to perform? > If you are upgrading from a 2.2.x system, you must make the world using the "aout-to-elf" target. From /usr/src/Makefile: # ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- # # Upgrading an i386 system from a.out to elf format # # # The aout->elf transition build is performed by doing a `make aout-to-elf' # or a `make aout-to-elf-build' followed by a `make aout-to-elf-install'. # You need to have at least 320 Mb of free space for the object tree. # # The upgrade process checks the installed release. If this is 3.0-CURRENT, # it is assumed that your kernel contains all the syscalls required by the # current sources. # # For installed systems where `uname -r' reports something other than # 3.0-CURRENT, the upgrade process expects to build a kernel using the # kernel configuration file sys/i386/conf/GENERICupgrade. This file is # defaulted to the GENERIC kernel configuration file on the assumption that # it will be suitable for most systems. Before performing the upgrade, # replace sys/i386/conf/GENERICupgrade with your own version if your # hardware requires a different configuration. # # The upgrade procedure will stop and ask for confirmation to proceed # several times. On each occasion, you can type Ctrl-C to abort the # upgrade. # # At the end of the upgrade procedure, /etc/objformat is created or # updated to contain OBJFORMAT=elf. From then on, you're elf by default. # # ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hope that helps, -- JMA ----------------------------------------------------------------------- José Mª Alcaide | mailto:jose@we.lc.ehu.es Universidad del País Vasco | http://www.we.lc.ehu.es/~jose Dpto. de Electricidad y Electrónica | Facultad de Ciencias - Campus de Lejona | Tel.: +34-946012479 48940 Lejona (Vizcaya) - SPAIN | Fax: +34-944858139 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- "Go ahead... make my day." - H. Callahan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jan 23 16:21:23 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA08551 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 16:21:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hun.org (hun.org [207.49.60.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA08544 for ; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 16:21:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from attila@hun.org) Received: from localhost (attila@localhost) by hun.org (8.9.1/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA21274; Sun, 24 Jan 1999 00:21:00 GMT (envelope-from attila@hun.org) Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 00:21:00 +0000 (GMT) From: attila Reply-To: attila@hun.org To: "Chad R. Larson" cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: end of 2.2-stable support and the future of ports In-Reply-To: <199901230912.CAA19363@freeway.dcfinc.com> Message-ID: Owner: attila@hun.org Organization: home for unpenitent hackers and anarcho-cryptophreaks Encrypted: NO MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 23 Jan 1999, Chad R. Larson wrote: >As I recall, attila wrote: >> >> why dont you purchase the 2.2.8 final distribution set from >> WC-CDROM --it has all that speak off according to the >> announcements that 2.2.8 was a frozen point in time and all >> changes were made to 3_0-RELEASE --> CURRENT? for the few >> changes added after the CD, pick up the diffs by using first >> the CD and then cvsup; the log files in /usr/local/etc/cvsup/sup/... >> will give you the delta list. > >Been there. My web and ftp server is at 2.1-STABLE (built from the >2.1.7 CD set). I bought several copies of 2.1.7, because I expected >to run it for some time. > >Unfortunately, not all the distfiles are on the CDs, and the last >time I went looking for one on the net, it was a long search. I >finally wound up back-porting something from the 2.2 tree. > >I now own two copies of the 2.2.8 set. But we've still the issue >about having every distfile for every port, when two years down the >road I want to build ... > > -crl well, if it's any help to you, I have, I think, the complete set of 2.2._ release disks as I have a subscription --even though I cvs, I support the team as Jordan requests. I may be missing one set from carelessness or 3 sons, whichever comes first, YMMV if you are stuck, let me know. attila out... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jan 23 17:06:11 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA13238 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 17:06:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hun.org (hun.org [207.49.60.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA13231 for ; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 17:06:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from attila@hun.org) Received: (from attila@localhost) by hun.org (8.9.1/8.8.8) id BAA21432; Sun, 24 Jan 1999 01:05:47 GMT (envelope-from attila) Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 01:05:47 GMT Message-Id: <199901240105.BAA21432@hun.org> From: attila Reply-To: attila@hun.org To: John Polstra Cc: stable-freeBSD Subject: *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_3 ? affect on docs, etc. Owner: attila@hun.org Organization: hun.org, over 40 years beyond the fringe home for unpenitent hackers and anarcho-cryptophreaks Mailer: XEmacs V20.3 Encrypted: NO MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG John- after an RTFM session last week I modified my supfile of 10 Jan which built CURRENT flawlessly (including updating all the man pages and docs) from 2.2.6 and which is now diff'd 8c8 < *default release=cvs delete use-rel-suffix compress --- > *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_3 delete use-rel-suffix compress to the new file below preparatory to moving out of the CURRENT track to the STABLE track. however, in reading your reply to Doug Burks (below), it crossed my mind (or at least the space so designated) the 'tag=RELENG=3' in '*default release=...' may be applied to ports, etc. with results similar to doug's. or is it default release "if required" as I gleaned from RTFM? may save me some aggravation before I hit Froggie's magic twanger. thanx, attila # ___________________________ # hun.org CVSup 'supfile' for RELENG_3 # attila@hun.org 9124-0030 *default tag=. *default host=cvsup.FreeBSD.org *default prefix=/usr *default base=/usr/local/etc/cvsup *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_3 delete use-rel-suffix compress cvs-all # The main FreeBSD CVS repository, excluding crypto cvs-crypto # The export-restricted cryptography code # __________________________ > From: Doug Burks > > > I have adjusted my CVSup script to keep up with the new stable branch. > > The RELENG_2_2 version had worked flawlessly, but my RELENG_3 version > > has a minor problem. The "doc-all" tag not only did not retrieve any > > documentation files, but it deleted all of my existing ones! > > > > *default host=cvsup2.FreeBSD.org > > *default base=/u1/dbx/tmp > > *default release=cvs > > *default delete use-rel-suffix > > > > src-all tag=RELENG_3 prefix=/usr > > cvs-crypto tag=RELENG_3 prefix=/usr > > doc-all tag=RELENG_3 prefix=/usr > > > > src-all tag=. prefix=/usr/current > > cvs-crypto tag=. prefix=/usr/current > > doc-all tag=. prefix=/usr/current > > > > ports-all tag=. prefix=/usr > > www tag=. prefix=/usr > > From: John Polstra > > Bummer. > > We use branches only on the main source tree. We don't branch the > doc, ports, or www trees. That means you must use "tag=RELENG_3" only > for collections in the main source tree. For doc, ports, and www you > should use "tag=." > > "Nobody ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." > -- H. L. Mencken To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jan 23 17:43:55 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA17880 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 17:43:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA17865 for ; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 17:43:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA05798; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 17:43:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA16318; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 17:43:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199901240105.BAA21432@hun.org> Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 17:43:39 -0800 (PST) Organization: Polstra & Co., Inc. From: John Polstra To: attila Subject: RE: *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_3 ? affect on docs, etc. Cc: stable-freeBSD Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 24-Jan-99 attila wrote: > > after an RTFM session last week I modified my supfile of 10 Jan > which built CURRENT flawlessly (including updating all the man > pages and docs) from 2.2.6 and which is now diff'd > > 8c8 > < *default release=cvs delete use-rel-suffix compress > --- > > *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_3 delete use-rel-suffix compress > > to the new file below preparatory to moving out of the CURRENT track > to the STABLE track. > > however, in reading your reply to Doug Burks (below), it crossed my > mind (or at least the space so designated) the 'tag=RELENG=3' in > '*default release=...' may be applied to ports, etc. with results > similar to doug's. or is it default release "if required" as I > gleaned from RTFM? ... > *default tag=. > *default host=cvsup.FreeBSD.org > *default prefix=/usr > *default base=/usr/local/etc/cvsup > *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_3 delete use-rel-suffix compress > > cvs-all # The main FreeBSD CVS repository, excluding crypto > cvs-crypto # The export-restricted cryptography code Your worries are well-founded. :-) This would indeed blow away everything except the "src" tree. If you specify a "tag" (or anything else) in a "*default" line, then it applies to all subsequent collections that don't override the setting with something else. Here's one solution: *default host=cvsup4.FreeBSD.org *default prefix=/usr *default base=/usr/local/etc/cvsup *default release=cvs delete use-rel-suffix compress src-all tag=RELENG_3 cvs-crypto tag=RELENG_3 doc-all tag=. ports-all tag=. # And, if you really want them ... distrib tag=. www tag=. I deleted your initial "*default tag=.", which didn't do anything since it was overridden by the later "*default ... tag=RELENG_3". Also I changed the host, because cvsup.freebsd.org is badly overloaded while the other three US mirrors are cruising. They are all equivalent in that they all update themselves hourly from the master repository on freefall. You could leave out the "base=/usr/local/etc/cvsup", since that's the default. Another way you could get what you want is like this: *default host=cvsup4.FreeBSD.org *default prefix=/usr *default base=/usr/local/etc/cvsup *default release=cvs tag=. delete use-rel-suffix compress src-all tag=RELENG_3 cvs-crypto tag=RELENG_3 doc-all ports-all # And, if you really want them ... distrib www Here, I put "tag=." as a default since it's the most common case. Then I overrode it in the two collections that need to be RELENG_3. And as a third option, you could do this: *default host=cvsup4.FreeBSD.org *default prefix=/usr *default base=/usr/local/etc/cvsup *default release=cvs delete use-rel-suffix compress *default tag=RELENG_3 src-all cvs-crypto *default tag=. doc-all ports-all # And, if you really want them ... distrib www John --- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Nobody ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." -- H. L. Mencken To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jan 23 17:46:13 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA18111 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 17:46:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA18097 for ; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 17:46:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA05814; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 17:45:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA16324; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 17:45:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199901240105.BAA21432@hun.org> Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 17:45:54 -0800 (PST) Organization: Polstra & Co., Inc. From: John Polstra To: attila Subject: RE: *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_3 ? affect on docs, etc. Cc: stable-freeBSD Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Oh, one other thing I forgot to mention. If you want to experiment but you're worried that you might blow away a lot of files, check out cvsup's "-d" option. With it you can specify a maximum number of files to delete before cvsup decides you made a mistake, and quits. John --- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Nobody ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." -- H. L. Mencken To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jan 23 17:54:37 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA18919 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 17:54:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA18913; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 17:54:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA05850; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 17:54:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA16338; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 17:54:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199901232346.PAA29702@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 17:54:23 -0800 (PST) Organization: Polstra & Co., Inc. From: John Polstra To: (Satoshi Asami) Subject: Re: RELENG_3 doc-all tag empty? Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, dbx@aa.net Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 23-Jan-99 Satoshi Asami wrote: > * We use branches only on the main source tree. We don't branch the > * doc, ports, or www trees. That means you must use "tag=RELENG_3" only > * for collections in the main source tree. For doc, ports, and www you > * should use "tag=." > > We get this exact same question (and the "what is the name of the new > tag again?") from literally dozens of users every time we branch the > tree. I know. :-( > Can this info be displayed somewhere prominently? It's already displayed in the Handbook (which I admit isn't updated yet for RELENG_3). > (Will you kill me if I list the RELENG_* tags in > examples/cvsup/README?) No, I won't kill you. You're too far away, and I hate traveling. :-) Put it in there if you want to. But it's just another blasted thing to maintain, and I bet you it won't make any noticeable difference. > It might be a good idea to put it even in the -current supfile, as it > seems people modify that and don't see the warning in the -stable > supfile about not using tags outside of src. I suppose. :-( I need to work out an easy-to-maintain way for CVSup to tell you what the valid tags are for a given collection. It should refuse to do an update if you specify an unknown tag, unless you twist its arm. John --- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Nobody ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." -- H. L. Mencken To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jan 23 19:15:40 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA28567 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 19:15:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from wat-border.sentex.ca (sentex-uu.sentex.ca [209.167.167.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA28554 for ; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 19:15:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from gravel (ospf-wat.sentex.net [209.167.248.81]) by wat-border.sentex.ca (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA07836 for ; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 22:15:20 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990123222208.03b73c10@granite.sentex.ca> X-Sender: mdtancsa@granite.sentex.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 22:22:08 -0500 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Mike Tancsa Subject: RE: *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_3 ? affect on docs, etc. In-Reply-To: References: <199901240105.BAA21432@hun.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >Also I changed the host, because cvsup.freebsd.org is badly overloaded >while the other three US mirrors are cruising. They are all I noticed the same thing as well... Why not do round robin DNS on cvsup.freebsd.org to distribute the load more evenly ? ---Mike ********************************************************************** Mike Tancsa, Network Admin * mike@sentex.net Sentex Communications Corp, * http://www.sentex.net/mike Cambridge, Ontario * 01.519.651.3400 Canada * To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jan 23 20:10:31 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA05278 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 20:10:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA05273 for ; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 20:10:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA06316; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 20:10:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) From: John Polstra Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA16540; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 20:10:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 20:10:18 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199901240410.UAA16540@vashon.polstra.com> To: zach@uffdaonline.net Subject: Re: cannot write /cvs/CVSROOT/val-tags Newsgroups: polstra.freebsd.stable In-Reply-To: <19990123160814.A50957@znh.org> References: <199901240537.FAA03726@netrinsics.com> Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article <19990123160814.A50957@znh.org>, Zach Heilig wrote: > On Sun, Jan 24, 1999 at 05:37:38AM +0000, Michael Robinson wrote: > > But when I use: cvs co -rRELENG_3 sys > > I get: > > cvs [server aborted]: cannot write /cvs/CVSROOT/val-tags: Permission denied > > This can probably be fixed by typing: > > chmod +w /cvs/CVSROOT/val-tags > > If that doesn't work, figure out a way to manually edit /cvs/CVSROOT/val-tags > and append this line: > > RELENG_3 y He's using remote cvs. That line has to be added to the val-tags file on the server, not on the user's machine. We ran into this once before. It could fairly be called a bug in CVS. John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Nobody ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." -- H. L. Mencken To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jan 23 21:39:02 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA14266 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 21:39:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hun.org ([207.49.60.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA14258 for ; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 21:38:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from attila@hun.org) Received: (from attila@localhost) by hun.org (8.9.1/8.8.8) id EAA22116; Sun, 24 Jan 1999 04:40:32 GMT (envelope-from attila) Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 04:40:32 GMT From: "Attila T. Hun" Message-Id: <199901240440.EAA22116@hun.org> 0m8From: attila Reply-To: attila@hun.org To: John Polstra Cc: stable-freeBSD Subject: ...sure beats Murphy corollary #37 into the ground Owner: attila@hun.org Organization: hun.org, over 40 years beyond the fringe home for unpenitent hackers and anarcho-cryptophreaks Mailer: XEmacs V20.3 Encrypted: NO MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG it's always interesting to ex post facto Murphy #37 and review what you interpreted when you RTFM's before the fall... eg: it depends on what you thought you would find, or the results you expected, not what it said. or as I would tell programmers, whose code fell before one of my 5 minute test/onslaught reviews, when they screamed: "...but, but, your not supposed to use it that way!" "but, I did... and, so might the user" your logic is impeccable when multiple variations will accomplish the expected results; option 3 fits my style for obvious simplicity and clarity: *default host=cvsup4.FreeBSD.org *default prefix=/usr *default base=/usr/local/etc/cvsup *default release=cvs delete use-rel-suffix compress *default tag=RELENG_3 src-all cvs-crypto *default tag=. doc-all ports-all distrib www as for the 'cvsup -d' option... nothing ventured, nothing gained! > > "Nobody ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." > -- H. L. Mencken judging from current events, that should be: "Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public." --attila Oscar Wilde, arriving at U.S. Customs (before 1900), was asked if he had anything of value to declare, said: "Yes, my mind!" thanx, again attila out... just a-pickin' and a-grinnin' __________________________________________________________________________ go not unto usenet for advice, for the inhabitants thereof will say: yes, and no, and maybe, and I don't know, and fuck-off. _________________________________________________________________ attila__ To be a ruler of men, you need at least 12 inches.... There is no safety this side of the grave. Never was; never will be. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jan 23 22:52:45 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA22272 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 22:52:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from netrinsics.com ([210.74.179.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA22266 for ; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 22:52:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from robinson@netrinsics.com) Received: (from robinson@localhost) by netrinsics.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id OAA04760; Sun, 24 Jan 1999 14:48:02 GMT (envelope-from robinson) Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 14:48:02 GMT From: Michael Robinson Message-Id: <199901241448.OAA04760@netrinsics.com> To: jdp@polstra.com, zach@uffdaonline.net Subject: Re: cannot write /cvs/CVSROOT/val-tags Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199901240410.UAA16540@vashon.polstra.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG John Polstra wrote: >He's using remote cvs. That line has to be added to the val-tags >file on the server, not on the user's machine. We ran into this once >before. It could fairly be called a bug in CVS. Is this likely to be fixed? -Michael Robinson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message