From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 8 14:32:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from alice.gba.oz.au (gba-254.tmx.com.au [203.9.155.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D4DD415730 for ; Sat, 8 May 1999 14:31:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gjb@acm.org) Received: (qmail 16081 invoked by uid 1001); 8 May 1999 20:40:55 -0000 Message-ID: <19990508204055.16080.qmail@alice.gba.oz.au> X-Posted-By: GBA-Post 1.03 20-Sep-1998 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 5A91 6942 8CEA 9DAB B95B C249 1CE1 493B 2B5A CE30 Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 06:40:55 +1000 From: Greg Black To: "Greg Quinlan" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Strange reboot saga III References: <001d01be9c62$8e640440$380051c2@greg.qmpgmc.ac.uk> In-reply-to: <001d01be9c62$8e640440$380051c2@greg.qmpgmc.ac.uk> of Wed, 12 May 1999 11:31:11 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Greg Quinlan" writes: > Received: from greg (gquinlan [194.81.0.56]) > by amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA00704 > for ; Sat, 8 May 1999 11:31:22 +0100 (BST) > Message-ID: <001d01be9c62$8e640440$380051c2@greg.qmpgmc.ac.uk> > Reply-To: "Greg Quinlan" > From: "Greg Quinlan" > To: > Subject: Re: Strange reboot saga III > Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 11:31:11 +0100 > [...] > X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 It may be the final two lines of the headers I've shown above that explains it, but the Date header on that message is in the future, although the very first Received header appears to have the correct date. This date in the future error has been very common on posts from Greg Quinlan. It would be a trivial thing to fix it. > Who wants a piece of my humble pie? I think I may have found my problem! Please learn from this experience and recognise that the advice that people were offering, in particular the suggestions that you check your hardware, was indeed good advice and should have been followed a little earlier rather than wasting so much of people's time with the scare stories about FreeBSD. > After the last reboot I opened it up while it was on... and to my horror the > CPU fan was not running!! Since this is an obvious candidate for the problems and since it's extremely simple to check, it should have been found a little earlier. I do think this saga points to the advisability of putting a warning about checking for hardware problems (including fans) in some prominent place that might be easily seen by people who are puzzled by unexplained system failures -- it is always the first thing to check in this kind of case. -- Greg Black To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message