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	Please don't crosspost. Thanks.

Thomas David Rivers wrote:
> 
> And - to add to this - I still can freeze up my pentium
> laptop rather quickly (3.2-RELEASE

	This would be a lot more useful if you were actually using -Stable. As
it is there is no way to know if any of the hundreds of changes between
your -Release and the present have improved (or for that matter
worsened) your situation. 

Good luck,

Doug
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Hi,

On Sun, 26 Sep 1999, Doug wrote:

> 	Please don't crosspost. Thanks.
> 

 Sorry, but I think this is needed in order to attract attention on
-hackers; if I'm wrong please let me know.

> Thomas David Rivers wrote:
> > 
> > And - to add to this - I still can freeze up my pentium
> > laptop rather quickly (3.2-RELEASE
> 
> 	This would be a lot more useful if you were actually using -Stable. As
> it is there is no way to know if any of the hundreds of changes between
> your -Release and the present have improved (or for that matter
> worsened) your situation. 

 Judging from my experiences I'd say the problem got introduced sometime
in the month of August -- eversince that, though I tracked -stable, the
problem manifested continously.

 But there is something that we should pay attention: Alan Cox's patch on
sys/i386/include/atomic.h,sys/i386/i386/atomic.c (committed 24th August in
RELENG_3) and Luigi's suggested patch on sys/vm/vm_object.h -- you
can get the details tracking the "3.2-STABLE hangs after several hours"
thread started 19th August on -stable. Re-reading the thread I realise
that the problems seem to have started on 28th July -- at least 6th August
for me.

 Could someone suggest me a way to catch where the problem hides itself ?
Could "INVARIANTS" in kernel help me ?

 Thanks,
 Ady (@warpnet.ro)



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Got a machine here running 3.3-RC (last updated Sep 7, am doing a
buildworld right now) that runs the RealServer (realaudio) on a pretty
low-bandwidth stream -- 25 connections, 6.5K mono stream..  Runs for about
5 hours on Friday nights.  

The last two weeks that I've run it (since the last upgrade, I believe),
the program simply hangs -- I have no real info about WHAT it's actually
getting stuck on, but it keeps the sockets open, and doesn't respond to
requests -- realaudio, HTTP on the admin port, etc...

Anybody else notice this?  

(I know the detail in this message sucks, but I'm trying to get a foothold
on what's going on.)

--mike




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On 23 Sep, Michael A. Endsley wrote:
> I tried a new installation of 3.3 (19990918)tonight and got the signal 11.
[snip]
> "DEBUG: Signal 11 caught! That's bad!"
> I tried installing 2 times and it happened at the exact same spot.
> Any ideas on what is causing this?

I had the same problem with bad RAM. Also, if it was able to go past
this point, it would panic() later on during decompressing. Try removing
or swapping memory to find which stick is the bad one.

-Th



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On Sun, 26 Sep 1999, Mike Nowlin wrote:

> 
> Got a machine here running 3.3-RC (last updated Sep 7, am doing a
> buildworld right now) that runs the RealServer (realaudio) on a pretty
> low-bandwidth stream -- 25 connections, 6.5K mono stream..  Runs for about
> 5 hours on Friday nights.  
> 
> The last two weeks that I've run it (since the last upgrade, I believe),
> the program simply hangs -- I have no real info about WHAT it's actually
> getting stuck on, but it keeps the sockets open, and doesn't respond to
> requests -- realaudio, HTTP on the admin port, etc...
> 
> Anybody else notice this?  
> 
> (I know the detail in this message sucks, but I'm trying to get a foothold
> on what's going on.)

A verbose 'ps' listing showing wait channels would be useful.

See if you can gcore it and get a traceback...

-Alfred



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> 
> 	Please don't crosspost. Thanks.

 Now - here's an interesting phenom.  (If I can take a tangent
for awhile.)

 I didn't intentionally cross-post - I merely hit `r' to R)eply
in Mail, and didn't pay attention to the headers.

 Now - on this e-mail I did pay attention to the To: lines.  But I 
notice that the topic is now going to a list I don't read.   

 So - should I redirect to a list I do read (which is where I
originally saw the posting) - or - should I simply hope my name
is now included directly in the To: line?     Or, should I,
some weeks from now simply ask on the lists to which I subscribe,
"whatever happened regarding XXX"?  Or, to stay informed, should
I now intentionally cross-post (which is agreed, not a "good thing.")

 That is, the absence of a cross-post (which I agree, shouldn't
be there) will potentially leave me out-of-the-loop.   I get many
hundreds of e-mails (sometimes thousands) a day from the lists
I'm already on - I'm not sure subscribing to a new one, which
may be the "right" answer, is at all practical.

 Just some observations....
 
> 
> Thomas David Rivers wrote:
> > 
> > And - to add to this - I still can freeze up my pentium
> > laptop rather quickly (3.2-RELEASE
> 
> 	This would be a lot more useful if you were actually using -Stable. As
> it is there is no way to know if any of the hundreds of changes between
> your -Release and the present have improved (or for that matter
> worsened) your situation. 


 Yes - you are right - as soon as the 3.3-RELEASE CDs get here, I
will try it out.

 Also, I believe one of the original posters indicated he saw the
problem in 3.x - so, _if_ this is the same problem, a data point that
shows the issue came to light in an older release can help debugging
efforts.  And, if this is not the same problem - then my e-mail becomes
random aggravating noise... that deters from a solution to either
problem...   But, I add it in the hopes that it contributes.

 And - for now - please try and CC: me on the discussions.

	- Dave Rivers -

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From owner-freebsd-stable  Sun Sep 26  4:26:13 1999
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Hi,

On Sun, 26 Sep 1999, Thomas David Rivers wrote:

> > 
> > 	Please don't crosspost. Thanks.
> 
>  I didn't intentionally cross-post - I merely hit `r' to R)eply
> in Mail, and didn't pay attention to the headers.
> 

 It's my fault, if it is to be -- I've initially crossposted to -stable
and -hackers due to my intention to attract attention of developers/core
interested in solving this.

 I believe a good rule of thumb might be to crosspost to -hackers _if_ you
have any interesting technical data that may help the developers.

> > 	This would be a lot more useful if you were actually using -Stable. As
> > it is there is no way to know if any of the hundreds of changes between
> > your -Release and the present have improved (or for that matter
> > worsened) your situation. 
> 
> 
>  Yes - you are right - as soon as the 3.3-RELEASE CDs get here, I
> will try it out.
> 

 Syncing to 3.3-STABLE might be of a better help ;-) ... But since you
need the PAO bits (which I really don't know if they were completely 
merged in -STABLE)...

>  Also, I believe one of the original posters indicated he saw the
> problem in 3.x - so, _if_ this is the same problem, a data point that
> shows the issue came to light in an older release can help debugging
> efforts.  And, if this is not the same problem - then my e-mail becomes
> random aggravating noise... that deters from a solution to either
> problem...   But, I add it in the hopes that it contributes.

 Well, it does, at least in proving that this is indeed a problem that
needs solving; we shouldn't forget that most people use -stable in
production environments where stability is a must.

> 
>  And - for now - please try and CC: me on the discussions.

 OK.

> 
> 	- Dave Rivers -
> 

 Thanks,
 Ady (@warpnet.ro)



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From owner-freebsd-stable  Sun Sep 26  4:31: 9 1999
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Hi again,

On Sat, 25 Sep 1999, Adrian Penisoara wrote:

> On Sat, 25 Sep 1999, The Hermit Hacker wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Just to confirm...I've had similar problems, but *only* after moving to
> > INN-CURRENT, which makes *very* heavy use of MMAP() :( 
> > 
> > What version of INN are you running?
> 
>  I'm not running any kind of INN -- but lately I have been playing with
> nntpcached (2.3.3), but the problems have been manifesting even before
> installing it...

 Hey, this is interesting: I have another server right next to the faulty
one wich is SMP and doesn't exhibit lockups; they're usually synced in
terms of -stable source tracking.
 I'll try to compare the two systems in terms of packages and optional
services that are running, although the second system is very lightly
loaded and this could hide the problem...

 Ady (@warpnet.ro)



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From owner-freebsd-stable  Sun Sep 26  7: 2:37 1999
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Mike Smith wrote:
> 
> > Here is what you are doing wrong when reporting it. When it catches
> > sig 11, it shows a hole bunch of meaningless data, right? Well, this
> > meaningless data is the stuff we use to trace bugs. Until you
> > provide that information, we cannot do anything.
> 
> Actually, what we need is a complete hardware description of the
> system, the output on the debug console with hardware debugging turned
> up, and a confirmation that the problem persists with a fresh set of
> install floppies.

I claim temporary insanity.

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From owner-freebsd-stable  Sun Sep 26  8:39:14 1999
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As Rodney W. Grimes wrote ...
> > At 6:47 PM +0200 1999/9/24, Lauri Laupmaa wrote:
> > 
> > > I have a choice between 'Decade PM1554U2 PCI' and a 'Century
> > > PM2654U2-R-16M PCI'raid controllers.
> > >
> > > I am interested if these are compatible with stable and what are
> > > differences in those two...
> > 
> > 	Those are both SmartRAID V controllers.  The drivers for the 
> > SmartRAID V haven't been released yet.  I'm hoping to get a 
> > pre-release copy of the drivers and a loaner card so that I can do 
> > some benchmarking with them.
> 
> Who is working on a SmartRAID V driver???

My guess is Shimon Shapiro. He's been doing all (most?) of the DPT stuff.

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From owner-freebsd-stable  Sun Sep 26  8:52:16 1999
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From: Bryan Bursey <bbursey@mechv.me.tuns.ca>
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Well folks, I've just been casually watching this thread until now.  Today
I had occasion to do a fresh install of 3.3-19990926-STABLE on a box here. 
I can assure you that there are _no_ hardware issues with this machine,
and I too 'Caught a signal 11' immediately after pressing 'ok' in the
network configuration dialogue.  I'm going to attempt to install an older
-STABLE snapshot and then try to cvsup my way up. 

Regards,
Bryan




On Thu, 23 Sep 1999 thomas@hentschel.net wrote:

|On 23 Sep, Michael A. Endsley wrote:
|> I tried a new installation of 3.3 (19990918)tonight and got the signal 11.
|[snip]
|> "DEBUG: Signal 11 caught! That's bad!"
|> I tried installing 2 times and it happened at the exact same spot.
|> Any ideas on what is causing this?
|
|I had the same problem with bad RAM. Also, if it was able to go past
|this point, it would panic() later on during decompressing. Try removing
|or swapping memory to find which stick is the bad one.
|
|-Th
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Ok, I've got this strange problem with the ports on FreeBSD 3.2/3.3-STABLE.

I've been downloading all ports available by doing 'make -i fetch' in 
/usr/ports/ and its worked just fine. A couple of days ago, I noticed that 
3.3-STABLE was out so, I downloaded it, and I unpacked the ports.tgz and 
thought, well, I might as well download all the updated distfiles for 3.3 
too. So, I started a 'make -i fetch' in my dir /root/ports where I had the 
ports.tgz for FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE unpacked.

Now comes the strange thing, while downloading these ports, the box reboots 
a little now and then which I find really annoying. I get no logs of what 
is happening and I simply have no clue of what happens to the box.

If anyone can help me, I'd be very happy.

regards,
Andy


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On Sat, 25 September 1999, "Daniel C. Sobral" wrote:

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> Michael Endsley wrote:
> > 
> > Mike,
> > Here is what is happening.
> 
> Here is what you are doing wrong when reporting it. When it catches
> sig 11, it shows a hole bunch of meaningless data, right? Well, this
> meaningless data is the stuff we use to trace bugs. Until you
> provide that information, we cannot do anything.

No! I get a small screen that says it caught a signal 11 and is going to shutdown down.
It then says it will try saving what it can, but that I should try starting debugging and watching that screen.
When I click ok, it reboots the computer. Under the monitor screen, all it shows at that point is:
Caught signal 11  Thats bad!

ps- I just tried to browse the previous messages on FreeBSD, but for some reason can't connect
at this time. I posted what the lines before the "caught signal 11! Thats bad!" were.
Mike


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I have and run the following:
OS/2 Warp 3 & 4
Linux (Debian 2.1 and Redhat 5.2)
FreeBSD 3.0 & 2.21
Windows 3.1 95 & 98
Amiga 500 & 4000

If that can't keep a person confused then nothing can! :)
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From owner-freebsd-stable  Sun Sep 26 10: 7:37 1999
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On 26 Sep 1999, Michael Endsley wrote:

[snip]
> I have and run the following:
> OS/2 Warp 3 & 4
> Linux (Debian 2.1 and Redhat 5.2)
> FreeBSD 3.0 & 2.21
> Windows 3.1 95 & 98
> Amiga 500 & 4000
[snip]

Ok.  If you have a working FreeBSD or Linux installation *on that
machine*, step 1 is to boot into it and give us the output of dmesg .  
This will tell us in good detail exactly what hardware you have.  Step 2
is to tell us exactly what you're putting in the network configuration.

If you don't have a working Unix[-like] installation on the machine, you
could boot again with the boot floppies, switch to the console before
doing any of the installation steps (with alt-F1, I think; it's been a
while...) and copy down the boot messages.  Hitting Scroll Lock will
allow you to scroll up to messages that have gone off the top of the
screen.

I do not believe any progress will be made with this problem until we have
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Hi,

On Sun, 26 Sep 1999, Andreas Berg wrote:

> Ok, I've got this strange problem with the ports on FreeBSD 3.2/3.3-STABLE.
> 
> I've been downloading all ports available by doing 'make -i fetch' in 
> /usr/ports/ and its worked just fine. A couple of days ago, I noticed that 
> 3.3-STABLE was out so, I downloaded it, and I unpacked the ports.tgz and 
> thought, well, I might as well download all the updated distfiles for 3.3 
> too. So, I started a 'make -i fetch' in my dir /root/ports where I had the 
> ports.tgz for FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE unpacked.
> 
> Now comes the strange thing, while downloading these ports, the box reboots 
> a little now and then which I find really annoying. I get no logs of what 
> is happening and I simply have no clue of what happens to the box.

 What version of kernel are you running ? Could you send us a dmesg output ?
 What services/processes were you running at that time ?

> 
> If anyone can help me, I'd be very happy.
> 

 Not sure if I can help you but I think we might have similar problems.

> regards,
> Andy
> 

 Thanks,
 Ady (@warpnet.ro)



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At 21:57 1999-09-26 , Adrian Penisoara wrote:
>Hi,

Hello

<snip>

>  What version of kernel are you running ? Could you send us a dmesg output ?
>  What services/processes were you running at that time ?

The kernel is a kernel I've compiled myself, the version would be FreeBSD 
3.2-19990621-STABLE.

dmesg output is..

Copyright (c) 1992-1999 FreeBSD Inc.
Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993
         The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD 3.2-19990621-STABLE #1: Sun Sep 26 00:28:45 CEST 1999
     root@atlantis.fukt.hk-r.se:/usr/src/sys/compile/ATLANTIS
Timecounter "i8254"  frequency 1193182 Hz
Timecounter "TSC"  frequency 199432871 Hz
CPU: Pentium/P55C (199.43-MHz 586-class CPU)
   Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0x544  Stepping=4
   Features=0x8001bf<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,MCE,CX8,MMX>
real memory  = 134217728 (131072K bytes)
avail memory = 127520768 (124532K bytes)
Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0244000.
Probing for devices on PCI bus 0:
chip0: <Intel 82439HX PCI cache memory controller> rev 0x03 on pci0.0.0
chip1: <Intel 82371SB PCI to ISA bridge> rev 0x01 on pci0.7.0
ide_pci0: <Intel PIIX3 Bus-master IDE controller> rev 0x00 on pci0.7.1
xl0: <3Com 3c905B-TX Fast Etherlink XL> rev 0x30 int a irq 10 on pci0.18.0
xl0: Ethernet address: 00:50:04:07:7b:77
xl0: autoneg complete, link status good (full-duplex, 100Mbps)
vga0: <Matrox MGA 2064W graphics accelerator> rev 0x01 int a irq 11 on 
pci0.19.0
Probing for PnP devices:
Probing for devices on the ISA bus:
sc0 on isa
sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0>
atkbdc0 at 0x60-0x6f on motherboard
atkbd0 irq 1 on isa
sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa
sio0: type 16550A
sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa
sio1: type 16550A
wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa
wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): <ST38641A>
wd0: 8207MB (16809660 sectors), 16676 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S
wdc0: unit 1 (atapi): <NEC                 CD-ROM DRIVE:282/3.07>, 
removable, dma, iordy
acd0: drive speed 1376KB/sec, 128KB cache
acd0: supported read types: CD-DA
acd0: Audio: play, 256 volume levels
acd0: Mechanism: ejectable tray
acd0: Medium: no/blank disc inside, unlocked
wdc1 not found at 0x170
fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa
fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold
fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in
vga0 at 0x3b0-0x3df maddr 0xa0000 msize 131072 on isa
npx0 on motherboard
npx0: INT 16 interface
Intel Pentium detected, installing workaround for F00F bug
changing root device to wd0s1a
WARNING: / was not properly dismounted

Processes running has been different from time to time, but I'll make a 
guess of which ones has been there all times.. except from the standard 
stuff, I have xntpd, named8.2.1, sshd, mrtg (every five minutes) and apache.

I doubt that its got anything to do with those processes though, all of 
them had been running for 20 days without any problems. Of course, it could 
be a combination, but I doubt that too..

> >
> > If anyone can help me, I'd be very happy.
> >
>
>  Not sure if I can help you but I think we might have similar problems.

Well, it feels good that I'm not alone, although, I believe I'm right when 
saying that we both could live without the problem. I don't think I'll have 
any more problems, cause I simply wont download more freebsd 3.3 ports on 
this box. But, it would be nice to know whats wrong anyway ;)

>  Thanks,
>  Ady (@warpnet.ro)

-Andy



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From owner-freebsd-stable  Sun Sep 26 13:55:11 1999
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Thomas David Rivers wrote:
> 
> >
> >       Please don't crosspost. Thanks.
> 
>  Now - here's an interesting phenom.  (If I can take a tangent
> for awhile.)

	Actually it's not particularly interesting. 

>  I didn't intentionally cross-post - I merely hit `r' to R)eply
> in Mail, and didn't pay attention to the headers.

	A common mistake. 
 
>  Now - on this e-mail I did pay attention to the To: lines.  But I
> notice that the topic is now going to a list I don't read.

	So if the mail had been properly directed to -stable only in the first
place, you never would have entered into the equation. 
 
>  Yes - you are right - as soon as the 3.3-RELEASE CDs get here, I
> will try it out.

	That's great, but you still won't be using -Stable. 
 
>  Also, I believe one of the original posters indicated he saw the
> problem in 3.x - so, _if_ this is the same problem, a data point that
> shows the issue came to light in an older release can help debugging
> efforts.  

	And many such data points have already been discussed, on the -Stable
mailing list, where all the developers who deal with -Stable hang out,
read the mail, etc. This isn't a federal offense, and it _is_ a common
mistake. I am merely attempting to point out that your (pl.)
justifications are not valid. 

	If you are interested in tracking this problem you should subscribe to
-stable, which is a low-volume list most of the time. I'm afraid you
won't get any sympathy from us as to how much mail you get per day. 

Good luck,

Doug
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From owner-freebsd-stable  Sun Sep 26 16:26:48 1999
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Hi.

The end of the glob man page is rather strange:

STANDARDS
     The glob() function is expected to be IEEE Std1003.2 (``POSIX.2'') com-
     patible with the exception that the flags GLOB_ALTDIRFUNC, GLOB_BRACE
     GLOB_MAGCHAR, GLOB_NOMAGIC, GLOB_QUOTE, and GLOB_TILDE, and the fields
HISTORY
     The glob() and globfree() functions first appeared in 4.4BSD.

Note that the end of the 'STANDARDS' paragraph is missing...

I don't know if this is a stable-specific issue but anyways...

uname -a:
FreeBSD freed.dyn.ez-ip.net 3.3-RC FreeBSD 3.3-RC #16: Fri Sep 10 21:09:10 EDT 1999     spidey@freed.dyn.ez-ip.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/HALL  i386

Thanks.

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From owner-freebsd-stable  Sun Sep 26 16:48:17 1999
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I will load linux and send it to you. I believe (I haven't double-checked) that my 3.2 slice is
messed up when I made a mistake in trying to upgrade to 3.3
Mike



> Ok.  If you have a working FreeBSD or Linux installation *on that
> machine*, step 1 is to boot into it and give us the output of dmesg .  
> This will tell us in good detail exactly what hardware you have.  Step 2
> is to tell us exactly what you're putting in the network configuration.
> 
> If you don't have a working Unix[-like] installation on the machine, you
> could boot again with the boot floppies, switch to the console before
> doing any of the installation steps (with alt-F1, I think; it's been a
> while...) and copy down the boot messages.  Hitting Scroll Lock will
> allow you to scroll up to messages that have gone off the top of the
> screen.
> 
> I do not believe any progress will be made with this problem until we have
> the above information.

I have and run the following:
OS/2 Warp 3 & 4
Linux (Debian 2.1 and Redhat 5.2)
FreeBSD 3.0 & 2.21
Windows 3.1 95 & 98
Amiga 500 & 4000

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> 	If you are interested in tracking this problem you should subscribe to
> -stable, which is a low-volume list most of the time. 

 Thanks, I'll add that list to the others I'm on.  Particularly since
it is low-volume.

 Believe me, I know getting multiple copies or mis-directed e-mails is 
aggravating!

 You mention that 3.3-RELEASE won't be the same as -Stable.   Is there
some way for a resource-constraint environment to assist with debugging
issues in this situation?  Perhaps, in this case, -Stable hasn't moved
very far (as 3.3-RELEASE was just produced?)

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From owner-freebsd-stable  Sun Sep 26 17: 7:18 1999
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The Hermit Hacker wrote:
> 
> I'm assuming a bad drive here, but any way of determining whch based on
> the 'device' entry?
> 
> Sep 24 04:22:07 hub /kernel: swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: device: 0x20
    439
> , blkno: 2704, size: 4096

Major 4, minor 0x20039

The bit layout is:
0xmmmmMMmm
where 'm' is a part of the minor, M = major.  Yes, there is a hole in the
minor.

Here's an example, you'll have to search for it in full.
0 brw-r-----  1 root  operator    4, 0x0002001a Feb 20  1999 /dev/da3s1

Cheers,
-Peter



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I tried to add the aic driver to a system running 3.3-STABLE but this don't
work.

Kernel config file entry:
	controller aic0 at isa? port 0x340 bio irq 11 vector aicintr

Done config, make depend and then running make whit the following output
	make -f ../../dev/aic7xxx/Makefile MAKESRCPATH=../../dev/aic7xxx
	Warning: Object directory not changed from original
/usr/src/sys/compile/TOR
	loading kernel
	ioconf.o(.data+0x1e0): undefined reference to `aicdriver'
	*** Error code 1

	Stop.

A struct aicdriver is defined in i386/isa/aic6360.c but this file is not
included in the build. If I add it to the Makefile, the build fails as the
header files aic.h, <scsi/scsiconf.h> and <scsi/scsi_debug.h> are missing.

The cards using this driver still are on the supported list, so is there a
new driver or has this been broken?

Cheers,
	GLZ
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Bob, Mike, and all the others.
Here is the output of dmesg from both machines. The first is the Aptiva, then the PB-166:

Copyright (c) 1992-1999 FreeBSD Inc.
Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993
	The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD 3.2-19990812-STABLE #0: Fri Aug 13 17:18:35 AKDT 1999
    root@freeOS.fbsd:/usr/src/sys/compile/MYKERNEL
Timecounter "i8254"  frequency 1193182 Hz
Timecounter "TSC"  frequency 233288273 Hz
CPU: AMD-K6tm w/ multimedia extensions (233.29-MHz 586-class CPU)
  Origin = "AuthenticAMD"  Id = 0x562  Stepping = 2
  Features=0x8001bf<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,MCE,CX8,MMX>
  AMD Features=0x400<<b10>>
real memory  = 67108864 (65536K bytes)
avail memory = 62439424 (60976K bytes)
Preloaded elf kernel "kernel.prev" at 0xc02b1000.
Probing for devices on PCI bus 0:
chip0: <Host to PCI bridge (vendor=10b9 device=1531)> rev 0xb2 on pci0.0.0
chip1: <AcerLabs M1533 portable PCI-ISA bridge> rev 0x07 on pci0.2.0
vga0: <ATI model 4755 graphics accelerator> rev 0x9a on pci0.4.0
ide_pci0: <Acer Aladdin IV/V (M5229) Bus-master IDE controller> rev 0x20 int a irq 255 on pci0.11.0
Probing for PnP devices:
CSN 1 Vendor ID: CSC8037 [0x3780630e] Serial 0xffffffff Comp ID: @@@0000 [0x00000000]
mss_attach <CS4237>1 at 0x530 irq 5 dma 1:0 flags 0x10
pcm1 (CS423x/Yamaha/AD1816 <CS4237> sn 0xffffffff) at 0x530-0x537 irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x10 on isa
Probing for devices on the ISA bus:
sc0 on isa
sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0>
pcm0 not probed due to drq conflict with pcm1 at 1
atkbdc0 at 0x60-0x6f on motherboard
atkbd0 irq 1 on isa
psm0 irq 12 on isa
psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0
sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa
sio0: type 16550A
sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa
sio1: type 16550A
fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa
fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold
fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in
wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa
wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): <Maxtor 83240D3>
wd0: 3090MB (6328665 sectors), 6697 cyls, 15 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S
wdc0: unit 1 (wd1): <SAMSUNG SW0434A     (4.3GB)>
wd1: 4104MB (8406720 sectors), 8896 cyls, 15 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S
wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa
wdc1: unit 1 (atapi): <CD-ROM 24X/AKOx/17B>, removable, intr, dma, iordy
acd0: drive speed 4125KB/sec, 120KB cache
acd0: supported read types: CD-R, CD-RW, CD-DA
acd0: Audio: play, 255 volume levels
acd0: Mechanism: ejectable tray
acd0: Medium: no/blank disc inside, unlocked
ppc0 at 0x378 irq 7 flags 0x40 on isa
ppc0: Generic chipset (EPP/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode
lpt0: <generic printer> on ppbus 0
lpt0: Interrupt-driven port
cs0 not found at 0x300
vga0 at 0x3b0-0x3df maddr 0xa0000 msize 131072 on isa
npx0 on motherboard
npx0: INT 16 interface
changing root device to wd1s2a

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Memory: sized by int13 088h
Console: 16 point font, 400 scans
Console: colour VGA+ 80x25, 1 virtual console (max 63)
pcibios_init : BIOS32 Service Directory structure at 0x000fc2c0
pcibios_init : BIOS32 Service Directory entry at 0xfc2d0
pcibios_init : PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfc2f1
Probing PCI hardware.
Calibrating delay loop.. ok - 66.36 BogoMIPS
Memory: 22744k/24576k available (748k kernel code, 384k reserved, 700k data)
Swansea University Computer Society NET3.035 for Linux 2.0
NET3: Unix domain sockets 0.13 for Linux NET3.035.
Swansea University Computer Society TCP/IP for NET3.034
IP Protocols: IGMP, ICMP, UDP, TCP
Linux IP multicast router 0.07.
VFS: Diskquotas version dquot_5.6.0 initialized
Checking 386/387 coupling... Ok, fpu using exception 16 error reporting.
Checking 'hlt' instruction... Ok.
Intel Pentium with F0 0F bug - workaround enabled.
alias mapping IDT readonly ...  ... done
Linux version 2.0.36 (root@porky.redhat.com) (gcc version 2.7.2.3) #1 Tue Oct 13 22:17:11 EDT 1998
Starting kswapd v 1.4.2.2 
Serial driver version 4.13 with no serial options enabled
tty00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
PS/2 auxiliary pointing device detected -- driver installed.
Real Time Clock Driver v1.09
Ramdisk driver initialized : 16 ramdisks of 4096K size
ide: i82371 PIIX (Triton) on PCI bus 0 function 57
    ide0: BM-DMA at 0xffa0-0xffa7
    ide1: BM-DMA at 0xffa8-0xffaf
hda: WDC AC31600H, 1549MB w/128kB Cache, CHS=787/64/63, DMA
hdc: NEC CD-ROM DRIVE:280, ATAPI CDROM drive
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M
FDC 0 is a National Semiconductor PC87306
md driver 0.36.3 MAX_MD_DEV=4, MAX_REAL=8
scsi : 0 hosts.
scsi : detected total.
Partition check:
 hda: hda1 hda2 < hda5 hda6 hda7 hda8 > hda3
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.
Adding Swap: 66492k swap-space (priority -1)
sysctl: ip forwarding off
Swansea University Computer Society IPX 0.34 for NET3.035
IPX Portions Copyright (c) 1995 Caldera, Inc.
Appletalk 0.17 for Linux NET3.035
VFS: Disk change detected on device 02:00
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------



On Sun, 26 September 1999, Bob K wrote:

> Subject: Re: Signal 11 on 3.3 installation
> In-Reply-To: <19990926164510.21839.cpmta@c004.sfo.cp.net>

> 
> Ok.  If you have a working FreeBSD or Linux installation *on that
> machine*, step 1 is to boot into it and give us the output of dmesg .  
> This will tell us in good detail exactly what hardware you have.  Step 2
> is to tell us exactly what you're putting in the network configuration.
> 
> If you don't have a working Unix[-like] installation on the machine, you
> could boot again with the boot floppies, switch to the console before
> doing any of the installation steps (with alt-F1, I think; it's been a
> while...) and copy down the boot messages.  Hitting Scroll Lock will
> allow you to scroll up to messages that have gone off the top of the
> screen.
> 
> I do not believe any progress will be made with this problem until we have
> the above information.

I have and run the following:
OS/2 Warp 3 & 4
Linux (Debian 2.1 and Redhat 5.2)
FreeBSD 3.0 & 2.21
Windows 3.1 95 & 98
Amiga 500 & 4000

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> Bob, Mike, and all the others.
> Here is the output of dmesg from both machines. The first is the Aptiva, then the PB-166:

Again I ask, turn debugging up to full before you start installing, 
then swap to the debug console when the sig11 message comes up, and 
tell us exactly what it says.

I do note, however that neither of the machines seems to have any 
network devices.


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On Sat, 25 Sep 1999, Chad R. Larson wrote:
> As I recall, Robert Sowders wrote:
> > I use Legato products because management bought it. Not

> We use NetBackup from Veritas...

We use ADSM with the SCO v2 client.

The Linux v3 client ignores mountpoints and hangs after about 30 minutes.
Does anyone have it working with STABLE?


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> Their product is not that complicated, and it seems to me
> at least, that they deserve a good dose of open source
> competition.

/usr/ports/misc/amanda

(it's still a bit raw compared to legato et al, but the price is right!)




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Carl Makin once stated:

=On Sat, 25 Sep 1999, Chad R. Larson wrote:
=> As I recall, Robert Sowders wrote:
=> > I use Legato products because management bought it. Not
=
=> We use NetBackup from Veritas...
=
=We use ADSM with the SCO v2 client.
=
=The  Linux v3  client  ignores  mountpoints and  hangs  after about  30
=minutes. Does anyone have it working with STABLE?

Amanda anyone? Sorry, but someone had to...

	-mi


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On Sun, 26 Sep 1999, Mikhail Teterin wrote:

> Carl Makin once stated:
> =We use ADSM with the SCO v2 client.

> =The  Linux v3  client  ignores  mountpoints and  hangs  after about  30
> =minutes. Does anyone have it working with STABLE?

> Amanda anyone? Sorry, but someone had to...

heh,
We've got $300,000 worth of Automated Tape Library and backup
server/software.  I would prefer to use that. :)


Carl.




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All,

I am running (From uname -a):

FreeBSD diarmadhi.mushhaven.net 3.2-STABLE FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE #2: Sun Aug
8 12:09:11 GMT 1999     root@:/usr/src/sys/compile/DIARMADHI  i386

Now, I am running an Abit dual socket 370 mainboard with 2 Celeron 500
CPU's. All work fine under low load, but should I raise the load (Say 
by running Seti@Home, within 2 hours it just freezes up.

Now, what I want to know is is there a web page or tutorial somewhere on
debugging things like this? What can I look for to see what is causing it?
Running either proc alone on the board with a non-SMP mainboard works fine,
so it would seem to be something related to SMP...

Help?

Jamie



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In message <B500F74C6527D311B61F0000C0DF5ADC0D470D@valhall.ign.se> "Lowkrantz, Goran" writes:
: 	controller aic0 at isa? port 0x340 bio irq 11 vector aicintr

aic isn't supported in 3.x or newer.

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I wasn't refusing to do this...its Sunday so I was at church.
Here is the complete debug screen:

DEBUG: ioctl(3, TIOCCONS, NULL) : 0 (success)
rm: not found
DEBUG: found a network device named lp0
acd0: read_toc failed
DEBUG: found a cdrom device for /dev/acd0c
DEBUG: found a floppy device for /dev/fd0
DEBUG: ADD MAPPING for /dev/cuaa0 to sl0
DEBUG: ADD MAPPING  for /dv/cuaa0 to ppp
DEBUG: ADD MAPPING for /dev/cuaa1 to sl0
DEBUG: ADD MAPPING for /dev/cuaa1 to ppp
DEBUG: found a disk device named wd0
DEBUG: found a Dos partition wd0s1 on drive wd0
DEBUG: found a Dos partition wd0s4 on drive wd0
DEBUG: found a disk device named wd1
DEBUG: found a Dos partition wd1s1 on drive wd1
DEBUG: mkdir(/tmp/.doc)
DEBUG: mkdir(/tmp..)
DEBUG: mkdir(/tmp/.doc..)
DEBUG: Executing command `/stand/gunzip < /stand/help/drives.hlp.gz >
/tmp/.doc/doc.tmp'
DEBUG: Command `/stand/gunzip < /stand/help/drive.hlp.gz >
/tmp/.doc/doc.tmp' returns
status of 0
DEBUG: Executing command `/stand/gunzip < /stand/help/drives.hlp.gz >
/tmp/.doc/doc.tmp'
DEBUG: Command `/stand/gunzip < /stand/help/drive.hlp.gz >
/tmp/.doc/doc.tmp' returns
status of 0
DEBUG: Scanning disk wd1 for root filesystem
DEBUG: Scanning disk wd1 for swap partitions
DEBUG: Dist Masks: Dist: 0, Des: 0, Srcs: 0, XServer: 0, XFonts: 0, XDists: 0
DEBUG: Executing command `/stand/gunzip < /stand/help/distributions.hlp.gz
> /tmp/.doc/doc.tmp'
DEBUG: Command ` /stand/gunzip < /stand/help/distributions.hlp.gz >
/tmp/.doc/doc.tmp' returns
status of 0
DEBUG: Signal 11 caught! Thats bad!
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------
Hope this helps.
Mike

>Again I ask, turn debugging up to full before you start installing, 
>then swap to the debug console when the sig11 message comes up, and 
>tell us exactly what it says.
>
>I do note, however that neither of the machines seems to have any 
>network devices.
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>\\  of the man.                   \\  msmith@freebsd.org
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>
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> I wasn't refusing to do this...its Sunday so I was at church.
> Here is the complete debug screen:

Which network device are you trying to configure?

> DEBUG: ioctl(3, TIOCCONS, NULL) : 0 (success)
> rm: not found
> DEBUG: found a network device named lp0
> acd0: read_toc failed
> DEBUG: found a cdrom device for /dev/acd0c
> DEBUG: found a floppy device for /dev/fd0
> DEBUG: ADD MAPPING for /dev/cuaa0 to sl0
> DEBUG: ADD MAPPING  for /dv/cuaa0 to ppp
> DEBUG: ADD MAPPING for /dev/cuaa1 to sl0
> DEBUG: ADD MAPPING for /dev/cuaa1 to ppp
> DEBUG: found a disk device named wd0
> DEBUG: found a Dos partition wd0s1 on drive wd0
> DEBUG: found a Dos partition wd0s4 on drive wd0
> DEBUG: found a disk device named wd1
> DEBUG: found a Dos partition wd1s1 on drive wd1
> DEBUG: mkdir(/tmp/.doc)
> DEBUG: mkdir(/tmp..)
> DEBUG: mkdir(/tmp/.doc..)
> DEBUG: Executing command `/stand/gunzip < /stand/help/drives.hlp.gz >
> /tmp/.doc/doc.tmp'
> DEBUG: Command `/stand/gunzip < /stand/help/drive.hlp.gz >
> /tmp/.doc/doc.tmp' returns
> status of 0
> DEBUG: Executing command `/stand/gunzip < /stand/help/drives.hlp.gz >
> /tmp/.doc/doc.tmp'
> DEBUG: Command `/stand/gunzip < /stand/help/drive.hlp.gz >
> /tmp/.doc/doc.tmp' returns
> status of 0
> DEBUG: Scanning disk wd1 for root filesystem
> DEBUG: Scanning disk wd1 for swap partitions
> DEBUG: Dist Masks: Dist: 0, Des: 0, Srcs: 0, XServer: 0, XFonts: 0, XDists: 0
> DEBUG: Executing command `/stand/gunzip < /stand/help/distributions.hlp.gz
> > /tmp/.doc/doc.tmp'
> DEBUG: Command ` /stand/gunzip < /stand/help/distributions.hlp.gz >
> /tmp/.doc/doc.tmp' returns
> status of 0
> DEBUG: Signal 11 caught! Thats bad!

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At 11:09 PM 09/26/1999 -0700, Mike Smith wrote:
>> I wasn't refusing to do this...its Sunday so I was at church.
>> Here is the complete debug screen:

I'm not. I am just trying to install 3.3 via ftp. I removed all network
cards before starting any of this :)


>Which network device are you trying to configure?
>
>> DEBUG: ioctl(3, TIOCCONS, NULL) : 0 (success)
>> rm: not found
>> DEBUG: found a network device named lp0
>> acd0: read_toc failed
>> DEBUG: found a cdrom device for /dev/acd0c
>> DEBUG: found a floppy device for /dev/fd0
>> DEBUG: ADD MAPPING for /dev/cuaa0 to sl0
>> DEBUG: ADD MAPPING  for /dv/cuaa0 to ppp
>> DEBUG: ADD MAPPING for /dev/cuaa1 to sl0
>> DEBUG: ADD MAPPING for /dev/cuaa1 to ppp
>> DEBUG: found a disk device named wd0
>> DEBUG: found a Dos partition wd0s1 on drive wd0
>> DEBUG: found a Dos partition wd0s4 on drive wd0
>> DEBUG: found a disk device named wd1
>> DEBUG: found a Dos partition wd1s1 on drive wd1
>> DEBUG: mkdir(/tmp/.doc)
>> DEBUG: mkdir(/tmp..)
>> DEBUG: mkdir(/tmp/.doc..)
>> DEBUG: Executing command `/stand/gunzip < /stand/help/drives.hlp.gz >
>> /tmp/.doc/doc.tmp'
>> DEBUG: Command `/stand/gunzip < /stand/help/drive.hlp.gz >
>> /tmp/.doc/doc.tmp' returns
>> status of 0
>> DEBUG: Executing command `/stand/gunzip < /stand/help/drives.hlp.gz >
>> /tmp/.doc/doc.tmp'
>> DEBUG: Command `/stand/gunzip < /stand/help/drive.hlp.gz >
>> /tmp/.doc/doc.tmp' returns
>> status of 0
>> DEBUG: Scanning disk wd1 for root filesystem
>> DEBUG: Scanning disk wd1 for swap partitions
>> DEBUG: Dist Masks: Dist: 0, Des: 0, Srcs: 0, XServer: 0, XFonts: 0,
XDists: 0
>> DEBUG: Executing command `/stand/gunzip < /stand/help/distributions.hlp.gz
>> > /tmp/.doc/doc.tmp'
>> DEBUG: Command ` /stand/gunzip < /stand/help/distributions.hlp.gz >
>> /tmp/.doc/doc.tmp' returns
>> status of 0
>> DEBUG: Signal 11 caught! Thats bad!
>
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>\\  of the man.                   \\  msmith@freebsd.org
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> At 11:09 PM 09/26/1999 -0700, Mike Smith wrote:
> >> I wasn't refusing to do this...its Sunday so I was at church.
> >> Here is the complete debug screen:
> 
> >Which network device are you trying to configure?
> 
> I'm not. I am just trying to install 3.3 via ftp. I removed all network
> cards before starting any of this :)

Forgive my ignorance, but how do you hope to install via FTP without a 
network device?


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To: Mike Smith <mike@smith.net.au>
From: "Michael A. Endsley" <mandm@alaska.com>
Subject: Re: Signal 11 on 3.3 installation 
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Sorry, I misunderstood your question.
PPP on cuaa0 :)


At 11:15 PM 09/26/1999 -0700, Mike Smith wrote:
>> At 11:09 PM 09/26/1999 -0700, Mike Smith wrote:
>> >> I wasn't refusing to do this...its Sunday so I was at church.
>> >> Here is the complete debug screen:
>> 
>> >Which network device are you trying to configure?
>> 
>> I'm not. I am just trying to install 3.3 via ftp. I removed all network
>> cards before starting any of this :)
>
>Forgive my ignorance, but how do you hope to install via FTP without a 
>network device?
>
>
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>
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From owner-freebsd-stable  Sun Sep 26 23:54: 3 1999
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I've noticed something odd occuring here, i'm coping data from 
an ultra-wide disk (da0) to scsi2 disk (da2). 

tar appears to be entering a blocked state, a long with any other
disk io, such as a ls, or df. 

I'm not sure if it's hardware or it's a recreatable problem 
for others.


Top reports this for tar:
21882 root       -2   0   540K   284K getblk   1:29  0.83%  0.83% tar


dmesg:
ahc0: <Adaptec 2940 Ultra SCSI adapter> rev 0x00 int a irq 11 on pci0.15.0
ahc0: aic7880 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs

da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
da0: <QUANTUM XP39100J LYK8> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device
da0: 20.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing
Enabled
da0: 8682MB (17781520 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1106C)
da1 at ahc0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0
da1: <QUANTUM XP34301 101U> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device
da1: 20.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing
Enabled
da1: 4106MB (8410200 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 523C)
changing root device to da0s1a
cd1 at ahc0 bus 0 target 5 lun 0
cd1: <TOSHIBA CD-ROM XM-3801TA 0207> Removable CD-ROM SCSI-2 device
cd1: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8)
cd1: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present
da2 at ahc0 bus 0 target 3 lun 0
da2: <COMPAQPC WDE4360 1.52> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device
da2: 20.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 15), Tagged Queueing Enabled
da2: 4094MB (8386000 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 522C)
cd0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 4 lun 0
cd0: <HP CD-Writer 6020 1.07> Removable CD-ROM SCSI-2 device
cd0: 3.300MB/s transfers
cd0: cd present [336075 x 2048 byte records]

Sameer



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At 11:00 PM 9/26/99 , Michael A. Endsley wrote:
>I wasn't refusing to do this...its Sunday so I was at church.
>Here is the complete debug screen:
>
>DEBUG: ioctl(3, TIOCCONS, NULL) : 0 (success)
>rm: not found
>DEBUG: found a network device named lp0
>acd0: read_toc failed
>DEBUG: found a cdrom device for /dev/acd0c
>DEBUG: found a floppy device for /dev/fd0
>DEBUG: ADD MAPPING for /dev/cuaa0 to sl0
>DEBUG: ADD MAPPING  for /dv/cuaa0 to ppp


Is the above /dv/cuaa0 (note the missing 'e') a typo from you or from the 
installation script?

Which ppp device are you using?  The one on cuaa0 or cuaa1?  Don't forget 
to include the rest of the ppp parameters you're using also and your modem 
type just in case it matters.

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Mike Smith wrote:
> 
> Forgive my ignorance, but how do you hope to install via FTP without a
> network device?

Dial-up PPP has always worked for me... :-)

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Hi,

The default Makefile of pam_unix.so 'src/lib/libpam/modules/pam_unix/Makefile'
doesn't include the crypt library. As a result the pam module isn't working.

When i put add -lcrypt to the LDADD line the module workes fine.

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Thank you Werner, but could you then inform us how to get the supported
controlers that used this driver on-line?

Cheers,
	GLZ

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: 	controller aic0 at isa? port 0x340 bio irq 11 vector aicintr

aic isn't supported in 3.x or newer.

warner


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Patient: "Doctor, it hurts when I type ``nmap -sP 172.22.0.0/16''!!"

Doctor:  "Don't type that."

Patient: "Oh, ok..."


The system will panic with an 'out of mbufs' message when I run the above
nmap command ("ping scan" a class B subnet - my internal IP network).

Should this be happening when run as a normal user??  The kernel is pretty
stock with maxusers 32, no NMBCLUSTERS option, unneeded devices removed.  
There is 64M RAM and 256M swap; it is has dual 90MHz P54C's.

This system (my workstation) is a:
FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE #0: Mon Sep 20 09:44:35 EST 1999

I am:
bash-2.03$ id
uid=1000(andyf) gid=1000(andyf) groups=1000(andyf), 0(wheel)

I have:
bash-2.03$ limits
Resource limits (current):
  cputime          infinity secs
  filesize          1048576 kb
  datasize            65536 kb
  stacksize            8192 kb
  coredumpsize       131072 kb
  memoryuse           65536 kb
  memorylocked         8192 kb
  maxprocesses          256
  openfiles             256

I use:
bash-2.03$ 


How would you go about preventing this problem?

Thanks.


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From owner-freebsd-stable  Mon Sep 27  3:26:39 1999
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The man page formats correctly for me under -current and a 3.3-RC
install.  From the cvs log for that particular man page, and from looking
at the man page source, I don't see anything that should be affecting the 
standards output.

Verify that your copy of /usr/src/lib/libc/gen/glob.3 isn't corrupt,
or that the installed copy of the man page isn't corrupt.

-Mike
  
> Hi.
> 
> The end of the glob man page is rather strange:
> 
> STANDARDS
>      The glob() function is expected to be IEEE Std1003.2 (``POSIX.2'') com-
>      patible with the exception that the flags GLOB_ALTDIRFUNC, GLOB_BRACE
>      GLOB_MAGCHAR, GLOB_NOMAGIC, GLOB_QUOTE, and GLOB_TILDE, and the fields
> HISTORY
>      The glob() and globfree() functions first appeared in 4.4BSD.
> 
> Note that the end of the 'STANDARDS' paragraph is missing...
> 
> I don't know if this is a stable-specific issue but anyways...
> 
> uname -a:
> FreeBSD freed.dyn.ez-ip.net 3.3-RC FreeBSD 3.3-RC #16: Fri Sep 10 21:09:10 EDT 1999     spidey@freed.dyn.ez-ip.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/HALL  i386
> 
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At 02:43 AM 9/27/99 , Andy Farkas wrote:
>The system will panic with an 'out of mbufs' message when I run the above
>nmap command ("ping scan" a class B subnet - my internal IP network).


I'm no expert but this basic question has been asked many times on this 
list recently.  It seems to be a known problem that FreeBSD currently 
panics if it runs out of mbufs.  We all wish this wasn't so and maybe 
someday it won't be.  Check out these messages for more info:

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/search.cgi?words=mbuf+panic&max=25&sort=score&sou 
rce=freebsd-stable


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Hi everyone:

I just downloaded the ISO-9660 filesystem images via ftp, a huge 643
MBytes file. I also have a Sony CD-R CDU920S and the cdrecord command
version 1.6.1. The drive in in 0,5,0 (bus,target,lun). \

I'm trying to use the following to first test later record this on CD.

cdrecord -v -dummy dev=0,5,0 3.3-install.cd0

Oh, I almost forget, I'm running 3.3-STABLE, I just made make world from
3.2-STABLE with no problem.

The command starts running saying the following: 

Starting to write CD/DVD at speed 1 in dummy mode for single session
Last chande to quit, starting dummy write in 1 secods.
Waiting for reader process to fill input-buffer ... input-buffer ready
Starting new track at sector: 0
cam_periph_mapmem: attempt to map 66560 bytes, which is greater than
DFLTPHYS(65536)
cdrecord: Argument list too long. Cannot send SCSI cmd via ioctl

Some hints about what is happening here and how to solve it ?

Thansk in advance for any help.



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If memory serves me right, Gregory Bond wrote:
> > Their product is not that complicated, and it seems to me
> > at least, that they deserve a good dose of open source
> > competition.
> 
> /usr/ports/misc/amanda

You probably mean /usr/ports/misc/amanda24 I think.  /usr/ports/misc/
amanda is a fairly old code base.  The reason that both are in the ports
tree is that that misc/amanda is based on amanda-2.3.0, which is
incompatable with amanda-2.4.0.

We use it to back up a variety of FreeBSD/Linux/Solaris/IRIX machines to
a FreeBSD box with a Mammoth tape loader and I'm pretty happy with the
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Bruce.




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In message <B500F74C6527D311B61F0000C0DF5ADC0D470E@valhall.ign.se> "Lowkrantz, Goran" writes:
: Thank you Werner, but could you then inform us how to get the supported
: controlers that used this driver on-line?

I'm afraid the answer is to port the aic driver from 2.x to CAM, or
write your own CAM driver.

Warner


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Does this mean that the old-style drivers can't be installed when we have
CAM on the system? 
Is it possible to install the old SCSI system to get these drivers working?

What does the following text in the release notes mean in the current
context?

http://www.se.freebsd.org/releases/3.3R/notes.html

----------------------------
[snipp]

The following drivers were supported under the old SCSI subsystem, but are
NOT YET supported under the new CAM SCSI subsystem:

[snipp]

  Adaptec 1510 series ISA SCSI controllers (not for bootable devices)
  Adaptec 152x series ISA SCSI controllers
  Adaptec AIC-6260 and AIC-6360 based boards, which includes the AHA-152x
  and SoundBlaster SCSI cards.

  [ Note:  There is work-in-progress to port the AIC-6260/6360 and
    UltraStor drivers to the new CAM SCSI framework, but no estimates on
    when or if they will be completed. ]
[snipp]
---------------------------------

I would interpret this as I can get them working somehow in 3.3R.

Cheers,
	GLZ

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In message <B500F74C6527D311B61F0000C0DF5ADC0D470E@valhall.ign.se>
"Lowkrantz, Goran" writes:
: Thank you Werner, but could you then inform us how to get the supported
: controlers that used this driver on-line?

I'm afraid the answer is to port the aic driver from 2.x to CAM, or
write your own CAM driver.

Warner


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With Bryan's permission, I am forwarding this to the list. Bryan had the
exact same problem as I am having. 
Did something change between Sept 17 and Sept 2x?
Mike


>Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 12:51:53 -0300 (ADT)
>From: Bryan Bursey <bbursey@mechv.me.tuns.ca>
>To: "Michael A. Endsley" <mandm@alaska.com>
>Subject: Re: Signal 11 on 3.3 installation
>
>I'm convinced that this is a bug in the install...  I went back to
>3.3-19990917-STABLE which I had recently installed on an identical machine
>successfully.  Again, it worked like a charm.  Sometime between Sept. 17
>and Sept. 2x, something went wrong with -STABLE.
>
>So my advice...  try 3.3-19990917-STABLE and cvsup up to the latest source
>if you really feel the need.
>
>Hope that helps.
>
>Bryan
>
>________________________________
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>
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>
>
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Ok. Neither copy in /usr/src/lib/libc/gen/glob.3 or
/usr/share/man/man3/glob.3.gz is corropted. Which is strange.

And what's stranger is that the output of 'man glob' is no more
truncated!

Anyways. End of story. Thanks!

ants/

--- Big Brother told Mike Pritchard to write, at 05:26 of September 27:
> The man page formats correctly for me under -current and a 3.3-RC
> install.  From the cvs log for that particular man page, and from looking
> at the man page source, I don't see anything that should be affecting the 
> standards output.
> 
> Verify that your copy of /usr/src/lib/libc/gen/glob.3 isn't corrupt,
> or that the installed copy of the man page isn't corrupt.
> 
> -Mike
>   
> > Hi.
> > 
> > The end of the glob man page is rather strange:
> > 
> > STANDARDS
> >      The glob() function is expected to be IEEE Std1003.2 (``POSIX.2'') com-
> >      patible with the exception that the flags GLOB_ALTDIRFUNC, GLOB_BRACE
> >      GLOB_MAGCHAR, GLOB_NOMAGIC, GLOB_QUOTE, and GLOB_TILDE, and the fields
> > HISTORY
> >      The glob() and globfree() functions first appeared in 4.4BSD.
> > 
> > Note that the end of the 'STANDARDS' paragraph is missing...
> > 
> > I don't know if this is a stable-specific issue but anyways...
> > 
> > uname -a:
> > FreeBSD freed.dyn.ez-ip.net 3.3-RC FreeBSD 3.3-RC #16: Fri Sep 10 21:09:10 EDT 1999     spidey@freed.dyn.ez-ip.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/HALL  i386
> > 
> > Thanks.
> -- 
> Mike Pritchard
> mpp@FreeBSD.org or mpp@mpp.pro-ns.net

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On Mon, 27 Sep 1999 12:31:52 -0400, Spidey wrote:

> Ok. Neither copy in /usr/src/lib/libc/gen/glob.3 or
> /usr/share/man/man3/glob.3.gz is corropted. Which is strange.
> 
> And what's stranger is that the output of 'man glob' is no more
> truncated!

Next time, try smacking /usr/share/man/cat3/* .  I'm pretty sure you got
cruft out of an interrupted preformat attempt.

Ciao,
Sheldon.


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Bryan Talbot once wrote:

> At 02:43 AM 9/27/99 , Andy Farkas wrote:
> >The system will panic  with an 'out of mbufs' message  when I run the
> >above nmap  command ("ping scan"  a class B  subnet - my  internal IP
> >network).
 
> I'm no  expert but this  basic question has  been asked many  times on
> this  list recently.  It  seems to  be a  known  problem that  FreeBSD
> currently panics if it  runs out of mbufs. We all  wish this wasn't so
> and maybe someday it won't be.

Actually, there are systems out there where  this is NOT so. I would not
be so tactless  to point it out,  but it is FreeBSD-2.2*.  Once, after 3
monthes of  uptime, I tried  to simulate  an "attack" on  my (colocated)
web-server --  a humble  P100 with 32Mb  of RAM on  100Mb network  -- by
issuing  numerous fetch-requests  from  a machine  nearby. The  requests
where steadily growing  in number and in a couple  of minutes the server
locked up.  I was  preparing to call  the ISP (Ziplink)  to ask  them to
reboot it, but it unlocked in about 40 seconds. There were "out of mbuf"
messages in the log, but it stayed up for over 10 more monthes (!) until
finaly its IDE disk started to glitch.

And that  was not even the  2.2.x-RELEASE or anything, but  some sort of
2.2-BETA or something. Too bad out  current ISP (9NetAve) has some sorts
of  mistery problem  (I suspect  some dummy  just trips  over the  power
cables once in a  while), so I cannot get over 3  monthes of uptime from
the our new 2.2.8 machine.

Or is this a different type of "out of mbuf..."?

	-mi


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On Mon, 27 Sep 1999, Mikhail Teterin wrote:

> be so tactless  to point it out,  but it is FreeBSD-2.2*.  Once, after 3
> monthes of  uptime, I tried  to simulate  an "attack" on  my (colocated)
> web-server --  a humble  P100 with 32Mb  of RAM on  100Mb network  -- by
> issuing  numerous fetch-requests  from  a machine  nearby. The  requests
> where steadily growing  in number and in a couple  of minutes the server
> locked up.  I was  preparing to call  the ISP (Ziplink)  to ask  them to
> reboot it, but it unlocked in about 40 seconds. There were "out of mbuf"
> messages in the log, but it stayed up for over 10 more monthes (!) until
> finaly its IDE disk started to glitch.

  Yes, 2.2-stable does recover from mbuf shortages better than 3.2-stable.

  Howerver, be aware that the GENERIC kernel does not have enough mbufs by
default to run a serious server.  Setting MAXUSERS to 64 gives you quite a
number of additional mbufs.

Tom



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On Mon, 27 Sep 1999, Lowkrantz, Goran wrote:

>   [ Note:  There is work-in-progress to port the AIC-6260/6360 and
>     UltraStor drivers to the new CAM SCSI framework, but no estimates on
>     when or if they will be completed. ]
> [snipp]
> ---------------------------------
> 
> I would interpret this as I can get them working somehow in 3.3R.

Why?! "... or if they will be completed" That sounds pretty bleak to me.

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who broke perl?

===> gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl
find: build: No such file or directory
find: build: No such file or directory
sh config_h.sh
Extracting config.h (with variable substitutions)
sh writemain.sh
Extracting writemain (with variable substitutions)
sh writemain lib/auto/DynaLoader/DynaLoader.a > perlmain.c
cc -nostdinc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl/../../../../contrib/perl5
-I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl   -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c perlmain.c
miniperl /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl/../../../../contrib/perl5/configpm  Config.pm
Porting/Glossary myconfig config.sh
cd lib ; ln -sf ../Config.pm
miniperl -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl/lib  -e 'use AutoSplit;
autosplit_lib_modules(@ARGV)'  lib/*.pm lib/*/*.pm
AutoSplitting lib/Getopt/Long.pm (lib/auto/Getopt/Long)
touch autosplit
sh cflags.sh
Extracting cflags (with variable substitutions)
cd ext/DynaLoader;  miniperl -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl/lib Makefile.PL 
LINKTYPE=static INSTALLDIRS=perl PERL_SRC=/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl  LIBS="-lperl"
INSTALLMAN3DIR=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/share/perl/man3;  make -B config
PERL_SRC=/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl
Writing Makefile for DynaLoader
Warning: /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl/lib/Config.pm may be out of date with
/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl/config.sh
cd /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl && make lib/Config.pm
`lib/Config.pm' is up to date.
Warning: /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl/config.h out of date with
/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl/config.sh
*** Error code 1 (ignored)
Makefile out-of-date with respect to Makefile.PL
/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl/lib/Config.pm /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl/config.h
Cleaning current config before rebuilding Makefile...
make -f Makefile.old clean > /dev/null 2>&1 || /bin/sh -c true
/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin/miniperl "-I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl/lib"
"-I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl/lib" Makefile.PL "LINKTYPE=static" "INSTALLDIRS=perl"
"PERL_SRC=/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl" "LIBS=-lperl"
"INSTALLMAN3DIR=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/share/perl/man3"
Writing Makefile for DynaLoader
==> Your Makefile has been rebuilt. <==
==> Please rerun the make command.  <==
false
false:No such file or directory
*** Error code 1

Stop.

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On Mon, 27 Sep 1999, Jason J. Horton wrote:

> ==> Your Makefile has been rebuilt. <==
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> false
> false:No such file or directory
> *** Error code 1
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The above is normally due to your clock being out-of-sync with
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Today Eliezer Rodriguez Gonzalez wrote:

> I just downloaded the ISO-9660 filesystem images via ftp, a huge 643
> MBytes file. I also have a Sony CD-R CDU920S and the cdrecord command
> version 1.6.1. The drive in in 0,5,0 (bus,target,lun). \
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Update your cdrecord.  There were some major changes to CAM in
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A little while ago, I was install 3.2-RELEASE from the CD-ROMs onto a
system without the ability to boot from the CD-ROM.  So I'd made the
usual two floppies and installed using them.

I was having problems like this reported one too.  It would crash with
similar errors in the middle of gunzip/tar extracts.

Now I knew that the floppy images were OK because I'd used them to
install FBSD on another machine from the same CDs a few weeks before.

After thrashing around and not making any progress, I endded up
reformatting the floppies using my working FBSD system.  The filesystem
floppy refused to reformat - lots of errors from the fd driver.  I threw
it in the trash and went through a batch of what turned out to be bad
floppies 'till I found one that formatted successfully.

I dd'd the image onto it successfully.  Then out of paranoia, I dd'd it
back in to compare the image.  The dd failed - again the driver went
crazy complaining about unreadable blocks.  Just to make sure I wasn't
nuts, I dd'd the image back onto the floppy, again without any errors.
It just couldn't read the image even though it apparently wrote it
successfully.  Another floppy in the trash.

I finally found a good floppy that kept its format and its image, popped
it in the install machine, and it worked just fine.  No more gzip
crashes at odd places during the install, 3.2 installed and ran fine.

If you're using floppies, don't trust 'em.


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Just as a note, there is not a word in the release notes that the old SCSI
and the CAM SCSI can't exist at the same time on the same machine. If CAM is
the only SCSI subsystem that can live on a 3.x system, I would say that all
the cards that use a driver not available in CAM is not supported on a
FreeBSD 3.x. Then they should not be in the list of supported cards. The way
I interpret the word supported, if something is supported in an operating
system, it works. Feel free to have any other interpretation but then it's
marketing.

Cheers,
	GLZ

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On Mon, 27 Sep 1999, Lowkrantz, Goran wrote:

>   [ Note:  There is work-in-progress to port the AIC-6260/6360 and
>     UltraStor drivers to the new CAM SCSI framework, but no estimates on
>     when or if they will be completed. ]
> [snipp]
> ---------------------------------
> 
> I would interpret this as I can get them working somehow in 3.3R.

Why?! "... or if they will be completed" That sounds pretty bleak to me.

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In message <B500F74C6527D311B61F0000C0DF5ADC0D4719@valhall.ign.se> "Lowkrantz, Goran" writes:
: Does this mean that the old-style drivers can't be installed when we have
: CAM on the system? 

Yes.

: Is it possible to install the old SCSI system to get these drivers working?

No.

: What does the following text in the release notes mean in the current
: context?

It means that those controllers aren't supported.  One person tried to
write a driver, but he's not released anything.  Justing Gibbs keeps
making noises about this, but he's been far too busy to even think
about this (or at least he was last time I talked to him).

: I would interpret this as I can get them working somehow in 3.3R.

The release notes are then misleading, because AFAIK, you can't run
the old scsi system at all with 3.3R.

Warner


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Hello!

I don't have the box in problem at hand, so I'm just asking if someone 
have got this:

a box of AMD-k6-2-300, 128 Mb RAM, IBM 9 Gb SCSI disk, Tekram
controller, ATX Gigabyte motherboard.

Adding device apm0 to kernel config results in panic immedialty after
probing apm0.

FreeBSD is 3.3-RELEASE (CD-ROM burned from image fetched from
ftp.freebsd.org). 

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Subject: Re: Cdrecord problems to record 1 CD
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On Mon, Sep 27, 1999 at 11:00:40AM -0400, Eliezer Rodriguez Gonzalez wrote:
[...]
> version 1.6.1. The drive in in 0,5,0 (bus,target,lun). \
[...]
> cam_periph_mapmem: attempt to map 66560 bytes, which is greater than
> DFLTPHYS(65536)

That version of cdrecord had a bug: It allocated buffers that
did not start on page boundary. The cam layer requires page
boundary buffers so it padded the data to the next lower
page boundary and the buffer became too big.

I recommend the latest `alpha' version cdrecord-1.8a29 which is
in deed very stable and introduces the new feature to create
bitwise correct audio cd copies.

  Bj=F6rn

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Thanks everyone for clearing this. I will go into the junk-box tomorrow and
dig out another old SCSI card, I think we have a 154x or NCR somewhere that
I can use instead or the DAT.

Cheers,
	GLZ

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In message <B500F74C6527D311B61F0000C0DF5ADC0D4719@valhall.ign.se>
"Lowkrantz, Goran" writes:
: Does this mean that the old-style drivers can't be installed when we have
: CAM on the system? 

Yes.

: Is it possible to install the old SCSI system to get these drivers
working?

No.

: What does the following text in the release notes mean in the current
: context?

It means that those controllers aren't supported.  One person tried to
write a driver, but he's not released anything.  Justing Gibbs keeps
making noises about this, but he's been far too busy to even think
about this (or at least he was last time I talked to him).

: I would interpret this as I can get them working somehow in 3.3R.

The release notes are then misleading, because AFAIK, you can't run
the old scsi system at all with 3.3R.

Warner


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In message <B500F74C6527D311B61F0000C0DF5ADC0D471B@valhall.ign.se> "Lowkrantz, Goran" writes:
: Thanks everyone for clearing this. I will go into the junk-box tomorrow and
: dig out another old SCSI card, I think we have a 154x or NCR somewhere that
: I can use instead or the DAT.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.  You'll be much happier with the
1542 anyway.

Warner


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On Mon, Sep 27, 1999 at 08:26:23AM -0800, Michael A. Endsley wrote:
> With Bryan's permission, I am forwarding this to the list. Bryan had the
> exact same problem as I am having. 
> Did something change between Sept 17 and Sept 2x?
> Mike
> 
I just noticed that there was a commit to tcpip.c in HEAD and
RELENG_3 on Sep 19; a diff between those two revisions (1.92 and
1.74.2.6 - at least those are the revisions according to the
$FreeBSD-tags in the files, the web-frontend to CVS claims that
it's 1.93 and 1.74.2.7 shows the following around line 395:

-       if (!ifaces && !strcmp(ifaces, "auto"))
+       if (!ifaces || !strcmp(ifaces, "auto"))

To me this (the OR-case) seems to be a typo - I can't verify
this, as I don't have a 3.x sourcetree here. Could somebody check
wether this is what broke sysinstall in RELENG_3 ?

bye,
  Harold

> 
> >Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 12:51:53 -0300 (ADT)
> >From: Bryan Bursey <bbursey@mechv.me.tuns.ca>
> >To: "Michael A. Endsley" <mandm@alaska.com>
> >Subject: Re: Signal 11 on 3.3 installation
> >
> >I'm convinced that this is a bug in the install...  I went back to
> >3.3-19990917-STABLE which I had recently installed on an identical machine
> >successfully.  Again, it worked like a charm.  Sometime between Sept. 17
> >and Sept. 2x, something went wrong with -STABLE.
> >
> >So my advice...  try 3.3-19990917-STABLE and cvsup up to the latest source
> >if you really feel the need.
> >
> >Hope that helps.
> >
> >Bryan
> >
> >________________________________
> >Bryan Bursey, DEng
> >Dept. of Mechanical Engineering
> >DalTech (TUNS)
> >
> >
> >        
> >
> >
> __________________________________________________________
>  
>  OS of CHOICE? FreeBSD, LINUX (Debian), OS/2 Warp3&4, Amiga 500&4000
> __________________________________________________________
> 
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On Mon, 27 Sep 1999, Gregory Bond wrote:

> /usr/ports/misc/amanda
> 
> (it's still a bit raw compared to legato et al, but the price is right!)

Amusingly enough, Legato paid my college ~$35K last year to do a project
to add some automation features to the schedular.  I think amanda still
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Oh geeze, you're absolutely right!  Ich habe sysinstall ganz kaput
gemacht. :)

Fixed in -current and merging to -stable.  I'll also re-roll a set
of installation floppies and put them in the updates section of
the ftp site (with suitable docs) and also add this to the ERRATA
for 3.3.  This one only happens if you don't have any interfaces
which is why I didn't trigger it in my testing.

- Jordan

> On Mon, Sep 27, 1999 at 08:26:23AM -0800, Michael A. Endsley wrote:
> > With Bryan's permission, I am forwarding this to the list. Bryan had the
> > exact same problem as I am having. 
> > Did something change between Sept 17 and Sept 2x?
> > Mike
> > 
> I just noticed that there was a commit to tcpip.c in HEAD and
> RELENG_3 on Sep 19; a diff between those two revisions (1.92 and
> 1.74.2.6 - at least those are the revisions according to the
> $FreeBSD-tags in the files, the web-frontend to CVS claims that
> it's 1.93 and 1.74.2.7 shows the following around line 395:
> 
> -       if (!ifaces && !strcmp(ifaces, "auto"))
> +       if (!ifaces || !strcmp(ifaces, "auto"))
> 
> To me this (the OR-case) seems to be a typo - I can't verify
> this, as I don't have a 3.x sourcetree here. Could somebody check
> wether this is what broke sysinstall in RELENG_3 ?
> 
> bye,
>   Harold
> 
> > 
> > >Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 12:51:53 -0300 (ADT)
> > >From: Bryan Bursey <bbursey@mechv.me.tuns.ca>
> > >To: "Michael A. Endsley" <mandm@alaska.com>
> > >Subject: Re: Signal 11 on 3.3 installation
> > >
> > >I'm convinced that this is a bug in the install...  I went back to
> > >3.3-19990917-STABLE which I had recently installed on an identical machine
> > >successfully.  Again, it worked like a charm.  Sometime between Sept. 17
> > >and Sept. 2x, something went wrong with -STABLE.
> > >
> > >So my advice...  try 3.3-19990917-STABLE and cvsup up to the latest source
> > >if you really feel the need.
> > >
> > >Hope that helps.
> > >
> > >Bryan
> > >
> > >________________________________
> > >Bryan Bursey, DEng
> > >Dept. of Mechanical Engineering
> > >DalTech (TUNS)
> > >
> > >
> > >        
> > >
> > >
> > __________________________________________________________
> >  
> >  OS of CHOICE? FreeBSD, LINUX (Debian), OS/2 Warp3&4, Amiga 500&4000
> > __________________________________________________________
> > 
> > 
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> Wed Mar  4 04:53:33 CET 1998   #unix, ircnet
> 
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From owner-freebsd-stable  Mon Sep 27 15:28:55 1999
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Jordan:

Glad to hear you tracked this one down, although I'd like to point out
that this error did occur on my machine _with_ a network device installed.
Specifically, I'm using a 3Com 3c900B with the xl0 driver.

Hope this doesn't add to any confusion.  If I can be of any more use, let
me know.

Bryan
CFDnet.com

On Mon, 27 Sep 1999, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:

|Oh geeze, you're absolutely right!  Ich habe sysinstall ganz kaput
|gemacht. :)
|
|Fixed in -current and merging to -stable.  I'll also re-roll a set
|of installation floppies and put them in the updates section of
|the ftp site (with suitable docs) and also add this to the ERRATA
|for 3.3.  This one only happens if you don't have any interfaces
|which is why I didn't trigger it in my testing.
|
|- Jordan
|
|> On Mon, Sep 27, 1999 at 08:26:23AM -0800, Michael A. Endsley wrote:
|> > With Bryan's permission, I am forwarding this to the list. Bryan had the
|> > exact same problem as I am having. 
|> > Did something change between Sept 17 and Sept 2x?
|> > Mike
|> > 
|> I just noticed that there was a commit to tcpip.c in HEAD and
|> RELENG_3 on Sep 19; a diff between those two revisions (1.92 and
|> 1.74.2.6 - at least those are the revisions according to the
|> $FreeBSD-tags in the files, the web-frontend to CVS claims that
|> it's 1.93 and 1.74.2.7 shows the following around line 395:
|> 
|> -       if (!ifaces && !strcmp(ifaces, "auto"))
|> +       if (!ifaces || !strcmp(ifaces, "auto"))
|> 
|> To me this (the OR-case) seems to be a typo - I can't verify
|> this, as I don't have a 3.x sourcetree here. Could somebody check
|> wether this is what broke sysinstall in RELENG_3 ?
|> 
|> bye,
|>   Harold
|> 
|> > 
|> > >Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 12:51:53 -0300 (ADT)
|> > >From: Bryan Bursey <bbursey@mechv.me.tuns.ca>
|> > >To: "Michael A. Endsley" <mandm@alaska.com>
|> > >Subject: Re: Signal 11 on 3.3 installation
|> > >
|> > >I'm convinced that this is a bug in the install...  I went back to
|> > >3.3-19990917-STABLE which I had recently installed on an identical machine
|> > >successfully.  Again, it worked like a charm.  Sometime between Sept. 17
|> > >and Sept. 2x, something went wrong with -STABLE.
|> > >
|> > >So my advice...  try 3.3-19990917-STABLE and cvsup up to the latest source
|> > >if you really feel the need.
|> > >
|> > >Hope that helps.
|> > >
|> > >Bryan
|> > >
|> > >________________________________
|> > >Bryan Bursey, DEng
|> > >Dept. of Mechanical Engineering
|> > >DalTech (TUNS)
|> > >
|> > >
|> > >        
|> > >
|> > >
|> > __________________________________________________________
|> >  
|> >  OS of CHOICE? FreeBSD, LINUX (Debian), OS/2 Warp3&4, Amiga 500&4000
|> > __________________________________________________________
|> > 
|> > 
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In article <v03130301b414d71ff3a5@192.168.8.115>,
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> Is this done on purpose or is it a bug in the makefile ?

I looks like a bug to me.  But it shouldn't show up for login, because
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I just installed KDE-1.1.2 (after using 1.1.1) and am now having
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On Tue, Sep 28, 1999 at 12:24:51AM +0000, Tim Liddelow wrote:
> I just installed KDE-1.1.2 (after using 1.1.1) and am now having
> problems with the screensaver password.  Basically, it doesn't
> recognise the password - is this a libcrypt problem?  With 1.1.1 there
> wasn't a problem.
> 
> Any ideas?

I don't know the cause, but I had the same problem. Another problem I
ran into earlier is that kdm doesn't work (at least not when installed
from the package). For this reason, I downloaded the kdebase source, ran
configure with --enable-pam, and then rebuit kdm and kscreensaver. This
did the trick. I've been trying to get around to submitting a PR on
this.

If you want to try this route, let me know and I'll send you my
/etc/pam.conf which has the PAM entries you'll need.

This was probably one for -ports...?

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Me too!

Tim Liddelow wrote:

> 
> I just installed KDE-1.1.2 (after using 1.1.1) and am now having
> problems with the screensaver password.  Basically, it doesn't
> recognise the password - is this a libcrypt problem?  With 1.1.1 there
> wasn't a problem.
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> Cheers
> Tim.
 
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Tim Liddelow once stated:

=I  just installed  KDE-1.1.2  (after  using 1.1.1)  and  am now  having
=problems with the screensaver password. Basically, it doesn't recognise
=the password  - is this a  libcrypt problem? With 1.1.1  there wasn't a
=problem.

Before "bad memory" is suggested as a  possible reason, let me say I saw
the  same  thing  with  one  of the  KDE  installations  some  time  ago
(definetly  before 1.1.2).  Back then,  I just  decided not  to use  the
klock.

Last week, I was setting up a  machine for a friend and the same problem
reappeared with a freshly built 1.1.2. I was under a deadline to deliver
the system,  so I just  copied /usr/local/bin/klock from  another system
(also  1.1.2), which  worked  fine.  Sorry, I  did  not investigate  any
further, but  the ldd  output looked  the same on  both klock-s  and the
crypt libraries were pointing to the same places.

I  understand, this  does not  help to  solve the  problem much,  but it
confirms it exists. For the record. Yours,

	-mi


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Hi,

> a box of AMD-k6-2-300, 128 Mb RAM, IBM 9 Gb SCSI disk, Tekram
> controller, ATX Gigabyte motherboard.
> 
> Adding device apm0 to kernel config results in panic immedialty after
> probing apm0.

Please try 
- optsions "VM86"
- flags 0x40 (and 0x71, 0x70 too)

And I'd like to see panic message especially code segment line like,

code segment            = base 0xXXXX, limit 0xXXXX ,type 0xXX
                          DPL X, pres X, def XX X, gran X

Thanks


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> I looks like a bug to me.  But it shouldn't show up for login, because
> the program itself loads libcrypt.  Are you using the pam_unix module
> with some other program?

XFree86 3.3.5 uses PAM. I'm checking this out...

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I have the same problem. I even tried to put old screen saver
programs there but it did not help any.
Would you send me email if you can find a solution?

Evren

On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, Tim Liddelow wrote:

> I just installed KDE-1.1.2 (after using 1.1.1) and am now having
> problems with the screensaver password.  Basically, it doesn't
> recognise the password - is this a libcrypt problem?  With 1.1.1 there
> wasn't a problem.
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> Cheers
> Tim.
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But KDE has many more problems for example when I donot login
with root then if I use kvt as terminal application then I do not see
myself on the output of the command w somehow xterm is working file
Is there anybody who knows a solution for this?

Also when I start kde in the ps ax output I always see
4 instances of startkde program. How can I solve this problem>??


dc:/usr/local/bin#ps ax |grep kde
 6835  ??  I      0:00.01 /bin/sh /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/Xsession kde
 6847  ??  I      0:00.00 /bin/sh /usr/local/bin/startkde
 6848  ??  I      0:00.00 /bin/sh /usr/local/bin/startkde
 6849  ??  I      0:00.00 /bin/sh /usr/local/bin/startkde
 6850  ??  I      0:00.00 /bin/sh /usr/local/bin/startkde
 7151  p3  D+     0:00.00 grep kde
dc:/usr/local/bin#

On Mon, 27 Sep 1999, Mikhail Teterin wrote:

> Tim Liddelow once stated:
> 
> =I  just installed  KDE-1.1.2  (after  using 1.1.1)  and  am now  having
> =problems with the screensaver password. Basically, it doesn't recognise
> =the password  - is this a  libcrypt problem? With 1.1.1  there wasn't a
> =problem.
> 
> Before "bad memory" is suggested as a  possible reason, let me say I saw
> the  same  thing  with  one  of the  KDE  installations  some  time  ago
> (definetly  before 1.1.2).  Back then,  I just  decided not  to use  the
> klock.
> 
> Last week, I was setting up a  machine for a friend and the same problem
> reappeared with a freshly built 1.1.2. I was under a deadline to deliver
> the system,  so I just  copied /usr/local/bin/klock from  another system
> (also  1.1.2), which  worked  fine.  Sorry, I  did  not investigate  any
> further, but  the ldd  output looked  the same on  both klock-s  and the
> crypt libraries were pointing to the same places.
> 
> I  understand, this  does not  help to  solve the  problem much,  but it
> confirms it exists. For the record. Yours,
> 
> 	-mi
> 
> 
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On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, Bryan Bursey wrote:
> Jordan:
> 
> Glad to hear you tracked this one down, although I'd like to point out
> that this error did occur on my machine _with_ a network device installed.
> Specifically, I'm using a 3Com 3c900B with the xl0 driver.
> 
I also just had it happen with a 3c509 (ep0), works fine with 3.3-RELEASE.

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Hello everybody:

Finally I was able to burn my own copy of 3.3-RELEASE, downloaded via ftp
from a mirror site.
I found out, by research and because Mr Fischer told me so, that while
using version 1.6.1 of cdrecord there was a problem using the internal
buffer, so I disabled that feature via the command option fs=0 and then
everything worked fine and I was able to burn my CD-ROM with the older
cdrecord version. 

I take this opportunity to say that the choice of downloading the first CD
out of the 4 CDs set is very welcome for all of us uncapable of purchasing
our own copies due to many reasons I won't explain here. It is another way
to spread the use of FreeBSD.

Thanks for all.



______________________________
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Net Manager & Sys Admin
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Hi

Whats the problem, all my -STABLE boxes give me:

/usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypt/../../../lib/libcrypt/crypt.c: At top level:
/usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypt/../../../lib/libcrypt/crypt.c:14: warning:
`rcsid' defined but not used
make: don't know how to make crypt-md5.c. Stop
*** Error code 2

Stop.
*** Error code 1


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Evren Yurtesen once stated:

=Also when I start  kde in the ps ax output I always  see 4 instances of
=startkde program. How can I solve this problem>??
=
=
=dc:/usr/local/bin#ps ax |grep kde
= 6835  ??  I      0:00.01 /bin/sh /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/Xsession kde
= 6847  ??  I      0:00.00 /bin/sh /usr/local/bin/startkde
= 6848  ??  I      0:00.00 /bin/sh /usr/local/bin/startkde
= 6849  ??  I      0:00.00 /bin/sh /usr/local/bin/startkde
= 6850  ??  I      0:00.00 /bin/sh /usr/local/bin/startkde
= 7151  p3  D+     0:00.00 grep kde
=dc:/usr/local/bin#

This is because startkde is rather stupid  AND there is an old minor bug
inf  FreeBSD's /bin/sh  -- it  does  not do  just exec(3)  for the  last
command  in the  script,  but fork(2)  and  exec(3) as  for  all of  the
intermidiate commands. This  results in the parent  sh process uselessly
waiting  for the  last command  to finish.  The bug  lives for  so long,
because it  does not really  do much harm,  other then wasting  a little
swap and process-entries. The work-around is rather simple too -- use
sh's exec command explicitly for your last command.

Make sure,  your /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/Xsession explicitly  says ``exec
startkde'' and use the following as /usr/local/bin/startkde :

#!/bin/sh
#
#  Misha's KDE STARTUP SCRIPT ( KDE-1.1 )
#

# initialize the configuration first.

kcontrol -init
sleep 1 ; kaudioserver
sleep 1 ; kwmsound &

# Add -ncols 96 after kfm if using a 8-bit display
sleep 1 ; kfm &

sleep 1 ; krootwm &
sleep 1 ; kpanel &
sleep 2 ; kbgndwm &

# finally, give the session control to the window manager
sleep 2 ; exec kwm

	Good luck,

		-mi


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Hi,

Being quite new to FreeBSD, coming from Linux and migrated a few 
years ago from M$, I have a few questions.
I would like to keep track of the FreeBSD 3.3 Stable branch via CTM.

As I am not sure if I setup my system correctly to fullfill the
requirements, here is briefly what I did. There is no doubt that 
I am capable of completely messing up my box :-). I would like to
avoid this.


1.  Downloaded and installed 3.3 from
    .../FreeBSD/releases/i386/3.3-STABLE/

Question: As dmesg shows the following message. Is this stable 3.3 ? 
	
    The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
  	FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE #0: Fri Sep 24 09:43:40 CEST 1999

    
2.  Downloaded Base Delta and corresponding Deltas up to now.
    .../FreeBSD/CTM/src-3/src-3.0200xEmpty.gz, etc.

Question: Are these the correct Deltas I should use?

3.  Subscribed to Mailing lists: ctm-src-3, ctm-announce. 

4.  Ports collection:  
    .../FreeBSD/CTM/ports-cur/
      

5.  BTW (just curiosity): In the Mailing-List index there is a group called 
    ctm-src-3-fast. What is it for?

I would be very glad to receive any hint in which direction I should start
and appreciate any help.

Thanks in advance.

Bye
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Eliezer Rodriguez Gonzalez <elie@uncle.cult.cu>
                                            ^^
>I take this opportunity to say that the choice of downloading the first CD
>out of the 4 CDs set is very welcome for all of us uncapable of purchasing
>our own copies due to many reasons I won't explain here.
                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This is so amazingly cool, I'm beside myself with glee.

Viva el BSD Libre!

	-Michael Robinson

(p.s. I apologize for the offtopicality, but I just can't help myself.)



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On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, Michael Robinson wrote:

> Eliezer Rodriguez Gonzalez <elie@uncle.cult.cu>
>                                             ^^
> >I take this opportunity to say that the choice of downloading the first CD
> >out of the 4 CDs set is very welcome for all of us uncapable of purchasing
> >our own copies due to many reasons I won't explain here.
>                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> This is so amazingly cool, I'm beside myself with glee.

About burning that first CD...

I have an Acer 4432 CD-RW drive (ATAPI) which I've used to burn
several copies of the 3.3 install CD. The most recent copy was burned
using the /usr/share/examples/worm/burncd.sh script (modified to use
the afore-mentioned drive at /dev/wcd0c), and while the files seem to
be there okay, I can't boot off of the CD-R. Most of my experience
with CD-Rs in the past has been on the Mac with Adaptec's Toast.

So, to recap, what makes a CD-R bootable? Is it the image file
(3.3-install.cd0)? Is it wormcontrol? (Not that I saw any options for
this.) How do I find out if my drive is acceptable to FreeBSD? What am
I missing?

Regards,
Ed

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I've just loaded 3.3-RELEASE on my system, installed cvsup-16-bin, modified 
the /etc/make.conf file and did a make update in my /usr/src directory.  I 
was getting a error saying it didn't know how to make crypto.c, but I found 
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Hello!

I've tried to set up XFree86 from 3.3-RELEASE distribution on an AMD
K6-2-300 box with AGP S3 Trio3D, and the server runs slo-o-o-O-o-w. It 
draws windows and canvas fast, but text is drawn EXTREMLY slow, with
interval about 3-4 seconds between (fast!) drawings.

Is it incompartible hardware, bad setup, or problem with XF86_SVGA?

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I forgot to attach the file... Here it is.   

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+ config_arg0=3DConfigure
+ config_args=3D-Dprefix=3D/usr =
-Darchlib=3D/usr/libdata/perl/5.00503/mach =
-Dprivlib=3D/usr/libdata/perl/5.00503 =
-Dsitearch=3D/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005/i386-freebsd =
-Dsitelib=3D/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005 =
-Dman1dir=3D/usr/local/man/man1 -Dman3dir=3D/usr/share/perl/man/man3 =
-des -Ulocincpth=3D -Uloclibpth=3D -Dpager=3Dmore
+ config_argc=3D11
+ config_arg1=3D-Dprefix=3D/usr
+ config_arg2=3D-Darchlib=3D/usr/libdata/perl/5.00503/mach
+ config_arg3=3D-Dprivlib=3D/usr/libdata/perl/5.00503
+ =
config_arg4=3D-Dsitearch=3D/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005/i386-free=
bsd
+ config_arg5=3D-Dsitelib=3D/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005
+ config_arg6=3D-Dman1dir=3D/usr/local/man/man1
+ config_arg7=3D-Dman3dir=3D/usr/share/perl/man/man3
+ config_arg8=3D-des
+ config_arg9=3D-Ulocincpth=3D
+ config_arg10=3D-Uloclibpth=3D
+ config_arg11=3D-Dpager=3Dmore
+ PATCHLEVEL=3D5
+ SUBVERSION=3D3
+ CONFIG=3Dtrue
+ echo Extracting config.h (with variable substitutions)
Extracting config.h (with variable substitutions)
+ sed -e s!^#undef\(.*/\)\*!/\*#define\1 \*! -e s!^#un-def!#undef!
sh writemain.sh
Extracting writemain (with variable substitutions)
sh writemain lib/auto/DynaLoader/DynaLoader.a > perlmain.c
cc -nostdinc -O -pipe =
-I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl/../../../../contrib/perl5 =
-I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl   =
-I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c perlmain.c
miniperl =
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl/../../../../contrib/perl5/configpm  =
Config.pm Porting/Glossary myconfig config.sh
cd lib ; ln -sf ../Config.pm
miniperl -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl/lib  -e 'use =
AutoSplit; autosplit_lib_modules(@ARGV)'  lib/*.pm lib/*/*.pm
AutoSplitting lib/Getopt/Long.pm (lib/auto/Getopt/Long)
touch autosplit
sh cflags.sh
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cd ext/DynaLoader;  miniperl =
-I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl/lib Makefile.PL  =
LINKTYPE=3Dstatic INSTALLDIRS=3Dperl =
PERL_SRC=3D/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl  LIBS=3D"-lperl" =
INSTALLMAN3DIR=3D/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/share/perl/man3;  make -B =
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Warning: /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl/lib/Config.pm may be out =
of date with /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl/config.sh
cd /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl && make lib/Config.pm
`lib/Config.pm' is up to date.
Warning: /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl/config.h out of date =
with /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl/config.sh
*** Error code 1 (ignored)
Makefile out-of-date with respect to Makefile.PL =
/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl/lib/Config.pm =
/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl/config.h
Cleaning current config before rebuilding Makefile...
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/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin/miniperl =
"-I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl/lib" =
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"LINKTYPE=3Dstatic" "INSTALLDIRS=3Dperl" =
"PERL_SRC=3D/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl" "LIBS=3D-lperl" =
"INSTALLMAN3DIR=3D/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/share/perl/man3"
Writing Makefile for DynaLoader
=3D=3D> Your Makefile has been rebuilt. <=3D=3D
=3D=3D> Please rerun the make command.  <=3D=3D
false
false:No such file or directory
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl/ext/DynaLoader.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/gnu.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.
*** Error code 1

Stop.
*** Error code 1

Stop.
*** Error code 1

Stop.
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On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, Evren Yurtesen wrote:

> I have the same problem. I even tried to put old screen saver
> programs there but it did not help any.
> Would you send me email if you can find a solution?

	Before I forget this question really belongs on the -questions
list where it was covered in depth recently. The problem is that the kde
screensavers in 1.1.2 don't have the suid bit. 'chmod u+s
/usr/local/bin/*.kss' is the shotgun solution, you might want to enable
only the one(s) you actually use. 

Good luck,

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Doug once wrote:

> On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, Evren Yurtesen wrote:
> 
> > I  have the  same problem.  I  even tried  to put  old screen  saver
> > programs there but it  did not help any. Would you  send me email if
> > you can find a solution?
> 
>  Before I forget  this question really belongs on  the -questions list
> where  it was  covered  in depth  recently. The  problem  is that  the
> kde  screensavers  in  1.1.2  don't  have the  suid  bit.  'chmod  u+s
> /usr/local/bin/*.kss'  is  the shotgun  solution,  you  might want  to
> enable only the one(s) you actually use.

So, it is a problem with the port... Send-PR time :)

	-mi


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OK... so I got FreeBSD out to play with for the first time in a long
while... to play with RAID.  It doesn't appear to work as advertied.

This weekend, I got three drives together to test vinum --- a
particular vinum configuration that I was trying to instruct someone
over a great distance to set up.  In particular, I wanted to have only 
root off of the raid (in the future, I might even have a mfsroot
kernel to eliminate the root failure point).  Of course, it would be
nice if you could boot with a raid root --- that doesn't seem too
far-fetched (but loading the kernel from a raid partition would be
hard, I understand), but this is what I was doing.

So I have 3 IDE disks (he's using SCSI, but I'm on a budget here ---
and I needed them today, not next week) on which I partition 128M
root on one, and 128M swap on the two others... then install just the
'bin' dist.

Then, I boot and edit the disklabels such that all three drives have
128M in a and the rest in g.  This is not very relavant, but is
background information.  The 3 'g' partitions are added as vinum
drives.  Then I vinum create a 'usr' volume that is RAID-5.

Now... If I put 'start_vinum="YES"' in rc.conf, everything works
fine.  However, if I boot normally, and then type 'vinum start'
afterwards, the machine panics.  This should be easy enough for you to 
reproduce.

The second buglet that I still havn't overcome (the above has the
obvious workaround) is that I did a 'vinum stop -f usr.p0.s2' ... to
test raid... and it did work just fine.  Then later, I did a 'vinum
start usr.p0.s2' ... and it told me that it was working on it, but it
would later fail.  Fail every time.  Even if the partition in question 
was unmounted, the rebuild would fail.

Later, I reread things and it appeared that detach/attach should work
on a subdisk.  This actually crashes the partition --- it doesn't work 
at all if I do that.  Attach will not allow me to add a subdisk to a
raid5 partion --- which is obviously what you'd need to do if you were 
replacing with hot-swap.

Dave.

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On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, Mark Murray wrote:

> > I looks like a bug to me.  But it shouldn't show up for login, because
> > the program itself loads libcrypt.  Are you using the pam_unix module
> > with some other program?
> 
> XFree86 3.3.5 uses PAM. I'm checking this out...

	I've also noticed that logging in with xdm bypasses the
/etc/login.conf stuff, or at least it seems to since xdm is blatting the
PATH I have set up in login.conf. I haven't had time to go deeper than
that, but if you are looking at it anyway this may be related. 

	Of course my "solution" was to add a PATH statement to my
.xsession...

HTH,

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At 3:58 PM -0400 1999/9/28, David Gilbert wrote:

> OK... so I got FreeBSD out to play with for the first time in a long
> while... to play with RAID.  It doesn't appear to work as advertied.

	If you can follow the instructions found at 
<http://www.lemis.com/vinum/how-to-debug.html>, that will help locate 
problems like this and we'll be able to get the code fixed.

	Normally, I'd say that you should make sure to cvsup to the 
latest version of -STABLE and see if you can repeat the problem. 
However, Greg recently posted (dated Tue, 28 Sep 1999 15:14:16 +0930) 
on the -current mailing list that there are a couple of outstanding 
bugs that he has recently tracked down, but which has not yet fixed.


	Take a look at <http://www.lemis.com/vinum/bugs.html> to see the 
current status of the bugs he's working on.  I hope that I have 
recently reproduced the third bug that Greg has had problems 
duplicating (and sent him the relevant information), and with luck 
we'll get this bug located and fixed soon.

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I notice that PLIP in -stable (and possibly -current) still suffers
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>>>>> "Brad" == Brad Knowles <blk@skynet.be> writes:

Brad> 	If you can follow the instructions found at
Brad> <http://www.lemis.com/vinum/how-to-debug.html>, that will help
Brad> locate problems like this and we'll be able to get the code
Brad> fixed.

I'm well aware of this, but these bugs were obvious and easy to
duplicate... so much so...  that I figured the developer replicating
them would be far easier than my continued evaluation.

Also... the current design of the system precludes (I think)
collecting crash dumps.

Dave.

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On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, Mikhail Teterin wrote:

> Doug once wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, Evren Yurtesen wrote:
> > 
> > > I  have the  same problem.  I  even tried  to put  old screen  saver
> > > programs there but it  did not help any. Would you  send me email if
> > > you can find a solution?
> > 
> >  Before I forget  this question really belongs on  the -questions list
> > where  it was  covered  in depth  recently. The  problem  is that  the
> > kde  screensavers  in  1.1.2  don't  have the  suid  bit.  'chmod  u+s
> > /usr/local/bin/*.kss'  is  the shotgun  solution,  you  might want  to
> > enable only the one(s) you actually use.
> 
> So, it is a problem with the port... Send-PR time :)

	I did notify the port's maintainer a while back, haven't heard
from him yet. I have not yet sent a PR because I am not sure that the
screensavers not having the suid bit is actually a "problem," or just a
symptom of something else. A short term solution would be to stick a chmod
command in the post-install target of the port makefile, but I'd rather
leave that decision to Stefan. OTOH, the sheer weight of the number of
questions on this is beginning to gather a momentum of its own....


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At 4:55 PM -0400 1999/9/28, David Gilbert wrote:

> I'm well aware of this, but these bugs were obvious and easy to
> duplicate... so much so...  that I figured the developer replicating
> them would be far easier than my continued evaluation.

	I disagree that these bugs were obvious or easy to find.  I'll 
let Greg speak for himself, but it's my understanding that of the 
three known current bugs, two of them have only recently been located 
(because people haven't given Greg the detailed information he needs 
to be able to try to duplicate the problems on his servers), and we 
won't know for at least another day or two whether I have actually 
found the third.

> Also... the current design of the system precludes (I think)
> collecting crash dumps.

	Perhaps others have had problems, but I haven't.  What problems 
have you had in this area?

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I'd suggest trying a 3.3-stable snapshot, just as soon as I can
get those rolling off of releng3.freebsd.org again.  If it still
occurs, we're now at least debugging the latest and greatest.

- Jordan


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Dear STABLE users, 
below is a copy of my message to comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc 
about the problems with adaptec 2940 UW/U2W cards.     I would
appreciate if anyone would have some ideas on what might be
going wrong.   I have observed this problem on 2 machines with
the same hardware, so termination and cables should not be causing
that.

We have a Dell computer with the Phoenix bios and Adaptec 2940 UW
card.  This computer worked fine until I tried to replace Adaptec
2940UW with 2940 U2W.  The card had internal scsi drive connected to
the internal UW connector, and an external U2W LVD drive connected to
the external U2W connector.  Both drives were terminated.  During the
boot, I noticed the following error messages:

Sep 27 21:59:22 dottie /kernel: (da3:ahc0:0:6:0): WRITE(06). CDB: a 0 8 3f 4 0
Sep 27 21:59:22 dottie /kernel: (da3:ahc0:0:6:0): ABORTED COMMAND asc:47,0
Sep 27 21:59:22 dottie /kernel: (da3:ahc0:0:6:0): SCSI parity error field replaceable unit: 3

(scsi id 6 is the external drive).    I played with various settings of the adaptec bios to no avail.

First I thought that the card was bad.  But then I tried replacing it
with 2940 UW Pro (same as 2940UW, but faster transfer rate), and got
an error on boot saying "Someone reset channel A".  This message
repeats indefinitely.

All problems go away if I leave only the internal device on the scsi chain.

Did anyone else have bad experience with these cards,   or do you think this 
combination of adapted card + phoenix bios might be causing problems?  Thanks!

	Vladimir
	vladimir@math.uic.edu

PS a part of the messages file is below (sorry for a long post).

Sep 27 21:59:20 dottie /kernel: Copyright (c) 1992-1999 FreeBSD Inc.
Sep 27 21:59:20 dottie /kernel: Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993
Sep 27 21:59:20 dottie /kernel: The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
Sep 27 21:59:20 dottie /kernel: FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE #0: Thu Sep 16 21:02:26 CDT 1999
Sep 27 21:59:20 dottie /kernel: vladimir@dottie.math.uic.edu:/usr/src/sys/compile/DOTTIE
Sep 27 21:59:20 dottie /kernel: Timecounter "i8254"  frequency 1193182 Hz
Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: CPU: Pentium Pro (198.95-MHz 686-class CPU)
Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0x619  Stepping = 9
Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: Features=0xfbff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV>
Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: real memory  = 201326592 (196608K bytes)
Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: avail memory = 191746048 (187252K bytes)
Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc037c000.
Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled
Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: Probing for devices on PCI bus 0:
Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: Correcting Natoma config for non-SMP
Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: chip0: <Intel 82440FX (Natoma) PCI and memory controller> rev 0x02 on pci0.0.0
Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: chip1: <Intel 82371SB PCI to ISA bridge> rev 0x01 on pci0.13.0
Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: ide_pci0: <Intel PIIX3 Bus-master IDE controller> rev 0x00 on pci0.13.1
Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: chip2: <PCI to PCI bridge (vendor=1011 device=0021)> rev 0x02 on pci0.14.0
Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: vga0: <S3 Trio graphics accelerator> rev 0x54 int a irq 0 on pci0.16.0
Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: Probing for devices on PCI bus 1:
Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: xl0: <3Com 3c905-TX Fast Etherlink XL> rev 0x00 int a irq 11 on pci1.8.0
Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: xl0: Ethernet address: 00:c0:4f:bf:f6:a8
Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: xl0: autoneg not complete, no carrier (forcing half-duplex, 10Mbps)
Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: ahc0: <Adaptec 2940 Ultra2 SCSI adapter> rev 0x00 int a irq 11 on pci1.9.0
Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: ahc0: aic7890/91 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs
Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: xl1: <3Com 3c905B-TX Fast Etherlink XL> rev 0x30 int a irq 9 on pci1.10.0
Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: xl1: Ethernet address: 00:10:5a:e5:30:ee
Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: xl1: autoneg complete, link status good (half-duplex, 100Mbps)
Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: Probing for PnP devices:
Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: CSN 1 Vendor ID: CTL0054 [0x54008c0e] Serial 0x06b52735 Comp ID: @@@0000 [0x00000000]
Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: Probing for devices on the ISA bus:
Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: sc0 on isa
Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0>
Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: atkbdc0 at 0x60-0x6f on motherboard
Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: atkbd0 irq 1 on isa
Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: psm0 irq 12 on isa
Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0
Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa
Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: sio0: type 16550A
Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa
Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: sio1: type 16550A
Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa
Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold
Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in
Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: ppc0 at 0x378 irq 7 flags 0x40 on isa
Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: ppc0: Generic chipset (ECP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode
Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/8 bytes threshold
Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: lpt0: <generic printer> on ppbus 0
Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: lpt0: Interrupt-driven port
Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: ppi0: <generic parallel i/o> on ppbus 0
Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: plip0: <PLIP network interface> on ppbus 0
Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: ie0: unknown board_id: f000
Sep 27 21:59:22 dottie /kernel: vga0 at 0x3b0-0x3df maddr 0xa0000 msize 131072 on isa
Sep 27 21:59:22 dottie /kernel: npx0 on motherboard
Sep 27 21:59:22 dottie /kernel: npx0: INT 16 interface
Sep 27 21:59:22 dottie /kernel: Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle
Sep 27 21:59:22 dottie /kernel: sa0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 4 lun 0
Sep 27 21:59:22 dottie /kernel: sa0: <HP C1533A 9503> Removable Sequential Access SCSI-2 device 
Sep 27 21:59:22 dottie /kernel: sa0: 3.300MB/s transfers
Sep 27 21:59:22 dottie /kernel: da3 at ahc0 bus 0 target 6 lun 0
Sep 27 21:59:22 dottie /kernel: da3: <SEAGATE ST39175LW 0001> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device 
Sep 27 21:59:22 dottie /kernel: da3: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 15, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled
Sep 27 21:59:22 dottie /kernel: da3: 8683MB (17783240 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1106C)
Sep 27 21:59:22 dottie /kernel: da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
Sep 27 21:59:22 dottie /kernel: da0: <SEAGATE ST34371W 0484> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device 
Sep 27 21:59:22 dottie /kernel: da0: 3.300MB/s transfers, Tagged Queueing Enabled
Sep 27 21:59:22 dottie /kernel: da0: 4095MB (8388314 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 522C)
Sep 27 21:59:22 dottie /kernel: da1 at ahc0 bus 0 target 3 lun 0
Sep 27 21:59:22 dottie /kernel: da1: <SEAGATE ST15150N 0024> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device 
Sep 27 21:59:22 dottie /kernel: da1: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 15), Tagged Queueing Enabled
Sep 27 21:59:22 dottie /kernel: da1: 4095MB (8388315 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 522C)
Sep 27 21:59:22 dottie /kernel: da2 at ahc0 bus 0 target 5 lun 0
Sep 27 21:59:22 dottie /kernel: da2: <SEAGATE ST15230N 0252> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device 
Sep 27 21:59:22 dottie /kernel: da2: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 15), Tagged Queueing Enabled
Sep 27 21:59:22 dottie /kernel: da2: 4095MB (8386733 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 522C)
Sep 27 21:59:22 dottie /kernel: changing root device to da0s1a
Sep 27 21:59:22 dottie /kernel: (da3:ahc0:0:6:0): WRITE(06). CDB: a 0 8 3f 4 0 
Sep 27 21:59:22 dottie /kernel: (da3:ahc0:0:6:0): ABORTED COMMAND asc:47,0
Sep 27 21:59:22 dottie /kernel: (da3:ahc0:0:6:0): SCSI parity error field replaceable unit: 3
Sep 27 21:59:24 dottie /kernel: (da3:ahc0:0:6:0): WRITE(06). CDB: a 0 8 3f 4 0 



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Hi.  We have two routers on our local net.  Only one is our default, of course.
When I ping a host that is via the other route, I get 2 ICMP REDIRECTs (one for
the specific host, one for the net) for every outgoing ping packet.

I.e. i'm getting redirects for the second ... nth packets.  I kind-of assumed
the first redirect would update the local routing tables so that subsequent
pings would go direct to the correct gateway.  And "netstat -r" does show a
_host_ entry, but not a _net_ entry.  And another ping to the same host will go
to the correct gateway, but a ping to another host on the same remote net will 
also elicit 2 REDIRECTS per packet, and install a host route.

I am surprised by 2 elements of this behaviour:
 - the REDIRECT doesn't affect the route chosen by the current ping process
 - only the HOST_REDIRECT gets installed in the routing table

Is this the expected behaviour?



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Generally crashes under X after sitting idle for hours.  If there
is more information I should/can provide, please let me know.





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Script started on Tue Sep 28 20:14:39 1999
bash-2.03# ls -l /usr/sup/src-all/checkouts.cvs\:RELENG_3
-rw-r--r--  1 root  bin  3808821 Sep 23 19:48 /usr/sup/src-all/checkouts.cvs:RELENG_3
bash-2.03# gdb -k
GNU gdb 4.18
Copyright 1998 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are
welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions.
Type "show copying" to see the conditions.
There is absolutely no warranty for GDB.  Type "show warranty" for details.
This GDB was configured as "i386-unknown-freebsd".
(kgdb) exec-file kernel.2 
(kgdb) symbol-file /kernel
Reading symbols from /kernel...done.
(kgdb) core-file vmcore.2
IdlePTD 3272704
initial pcb at 298d7c
panicstr: page fault
panic messages:
---
Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode
fault virtual address	= 0x0
fault code		= supervisor read, page not present
instruction pointer	= 0x8:0xc020926f
stack pointer	        = 0x10:0xc3440e18
frame pointer	        = 0x10:0xc3440e1c
code segment		= base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b
			= DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1
processor eflags	= interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0
current process		= 2810 (sh)
interrupt mask		= 
trap number		= 12
panic: page fault

syncing disks... 13 13 8 3 done

dumping to dev 20409, offset 458880
dump 31 30 29 28 27 26 25 24 23 22 21 20 19 18 17 16 15 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 
---
#0  boot (howto=256) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:285
285			dumppcb.pcb_cr3 = rcr3();
(kgdb) bt
#0  boot (howto=256) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:285
#1  0xc015b270 in at_shutdown (
    function=0xc02719ba <__set_sysinit_set_sym_memdev_sys_init+1050>, 
    arg=0xc339ae40, queue=-1019611520) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:446
#2  0xc0234ed5 in trap_fatal (frame=0xc3440ddc, eva=0)
    at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:942
#3  0xc0234bb3 in trap_pfault (frame=0xc3440ddc, usermode=0, eva=0)
    at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:835
#4  0xc023482a in trap (frame={tf_es = 16, tf_ds = 16, tf_edi = -1019154052, 
      tf_esi = -1019154048, tf_ebp = -1018950116, tf_isp = -1018950140, 
      tf_ebx = -1018756004, tf_edx = 0, tf_ecx = -1070982672, tf_eax = 232, 
      tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = 0, tf_eip = -1071607185, tf_cs = 8, 
      tf_eflags = 66199, tf_esp = -1018756004, tf_ss = -1018950088})
    at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:437
#5  0xc020926f in vm_object_allocate (type=OBJT_DEFAULT, size=2)
    at ../../vm/vm_zone.h:87
#6  0xc0209c34 in vm_object_shadow (object=0xc340f17c, offset=0xc340f180, 
    length=2) at ../../vm/vm_object.c:867
#7  0xc020785e in vm_map_lookup (var_map=0xc3440efc, vaddr=134819840, 
    fault_typea=3 '\003', out_entry=0xc3440f00, object=0xc3440ef4, 
    pindex=0xc3440ef8, out_prot=0xc3440ee3 "Ã", wired=0xc3440edc)
    at ../../vm/vm_map.c:2645
#8  0xc0203007 in vm_fault (map=0xc339f680, vaddr=134819840, 
    fault_type=3 '\003', fault_flags=8) at ../../vm/vm_fault.c:198
#9  0xc0234b46 in trap_pfault (frame=0xc3440fac, usermode=1, eva=134821148)
    at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:816
#10 0xc02346c6 in trap (frame={tf_es = 39, tf_ds = 39, tf_edi = 134881280, 
      tf_esi = -1, tf_ebp = -1077945276, tf_isp = -1018949676, 
      tf_ebx = 134877184, tf_edx = 0, tf_ecx = 134859828, tf_eax = 134859708, 
      tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = 7, tf_eip = 134543809, tf_cs = 31, 
      tf_eflags = 66118, tf_esp = -1077945280, tf_ss = 39})
    at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:358
#11 0x804f9c1 in ?? ()
#12 0x804fa31 in ?? ()
#13 0x804fa48 in ?? ()
#14 0x80504b2 in ?? ()
#15 0x804b2dd in ?? ()
#16 0x804a879 in ?? ()
#17 0x804a639 in ?? ()
#18 0x80512f7 in ?? ()
#19 0x80480e9 in ?? ()
(kgdb) quit
bash-2.03# dmesg
Copyright (c) 1992-1999 FreeBSD Inc.
Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993
	The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE #0: Mon Sep 27 22:14:03 EDT 1999
    root@home.bitshift.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/JOE
Timecounter "i8254"  frequency 1193618 Hz
Timecounter "TSC"  frequency 200527842 Hz
CPU: Pentium/P55C (200.53-MHz 586-class CPU)
  Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0x543  Stepping = 3
  Features=0x8001bf<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,MCE,CX8,MMX>
real memory  = 33488896 (32704K bytes)
avail memory = 29560832 (28868K bytes)
Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc030d000.
Probing for devices on PCI bus 0:
chip0: <Intel 82439TX System Controller (MTXC)> rev 0x01 on pci0.0.0
chip1: <Intel 82371AB PCI to ISA bridge> rev 0x01 on pci0.7.0
uhci0: <Intel 82371AB/EB USB Host Controller> rev 0x01 int d irq 10 on pci0.7.2
chip2: <Intel 82371AB Power management controller> rev 0x01 on pci0.7.3
xl0: <3Com 3c905-TX Fast Etherlink XL> rev 0x00 int a irq 11 on pci0.17.0
xl0: Ethernet address: 00:60:08:39:89:3f
xl0: autoneg not complete, no carrier (forcing half-duplex, 10Mbps)
vga0: <Number Nine model 493d graphics accelerator> rev 0x00 int a irq 11 on pci0.18.0
es1: <AudioPCI ES1370> rev 0x00 int a irq 11 on pci0.19.0
pcm1: using I/O space register mapping at 0xef00
ahc0: <Adaptec 2940 Ultra SCSI adapter> rev 0x00 int a irq 10 on pci0.20.0
ahc0: aic7880 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs
Probing for PnP devices:
CSN 1 Vendor ID: USR1001 [0x01107256] Serial 0x66292220 Comp ID: @@@0000 [0x00000000]
Probing for devices on the ISA bus:
sc0 on isa
sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0>
atkbdc0 at 0x60-0x6f on motherboard
atkbd0 irq 1 on isa
psm0 irq 12 on isa
psm0: model IntelliMouse, device ID 3
sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa
sio0: type 16550A
pcm0 not found
pca0 on motherboard
pca0: PC speaker audio driver
fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa
fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold
fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in
vga0 at 0x3b0-0x3df maddr 0xa0000 msize 131072 on isa
npx0 on motherboard
npx0: INT 16 interface
usb0: <Intel 82371AB/EB USB Host Controller>
uhub0 at usb0
uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
Intel Pentium detected, installing workaround for F00F bug
IP packet filtering initialized, divert disabled, rule-based forwarding disabled, default to accept, unlimited logging
Waiting 2 seconds for SCSI devices to settle
sa0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 4 lun 0
sa0: <HP HP35480A 1009> Removable Sequential Access SCSI-2 device 
sa0: 5.000MB/s transfers (5.000MHz, offset 8)
da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
da0: <SEAGATE ST34573W 6244> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device 
da0: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled
da0: 4340MB (8888924 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 553C)
da1 at ahc0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0
da1: <SEAGATE ST32155W 0362> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device 
da1: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled
da1: 2049MB (4197405 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 261C)
da2 at ahc0 bus 0 target 2 lun 0
da2: <SEAGATE ST32155W 0596> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device 
da2: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled
da2: 2049MB (4197405 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 261C)
changing root device to da1s1a
WARNING: / was not properly dismounted
cd0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 5 lun 0
cd0: <PLEXTOR CD-ROM PX-12TS 1.02> Removable CD-ROM SCSI-2 device 
cd0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 15)
cd0: cd present [250570 x 2048 byte records]
bash-2.03# cat /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/JOE

#
machine		"i386"
ident		JOE

maxusers	32
cpu		"I586_CPU"		# aka Pentium(tm)
config		kernel	root on da1
options         INCLUDE_CONFIG_FILE     # Include this file in kernel
options		"CPU_FASTER_5X86_FPU"
options		"CPU_SUSP_HLT"
#options		MATH_EMULATE		#Support for x87 emulation
options		"COMPAT_43"		# 4.3BSD system calls
options		USER_LDT		# for WINE
options		SYSVSHM
options		SYSVSEM
options		SYSVMSG
options		"MD5"			# for doscmd
options		"VM86"
#options		DDB			#kernel debugger
#options		DDB_UNATTENDED
#options		DIAGNOSTIC
options		KTRACE			#kernel tracing
options		PERFMON
options		UCONSOLE
options		USERCONFIG		#boot -c editor
options		VISUAL_USERCONFIG	#visual boot -c editor

# NETWORKING OPTIONS
options		INET			#Internet communications protocols
pseudo-device	loop			#Network loopback device
pseudo-device	ether			#Generic Ethernet
pseudo-device	bpfilter 1		#Berkeley packet filter
pseudo-device	tun	1		#Tunnel driver (user process ppp(8))
pseudo-device	ppp	1		#Point-to-point protocol
options PPP_BSDCOMP			#PPP BSD-compress support
options PPP_DEFLATE			#PPP zlib/deflate/gzip support
options PPP_FILTER			#enable bpf filtering (needs bpfilter)

# FIREWALL
options		IPFIREWALL              #firewall
options		IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE      #print info about dropped packets
options		IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT #allow everything by default
#options	IPFIREWALL_FORWARD      #enable transparent proxy support
#options	IPDIVERT		#divert sockets
#options	IPFILTER		#kernel ipfilter support
#options	IPFILTER_LOG		#ipfilter logging
#options	IPFILTER_LKM		#kernel support for ip_fil.o LKM
options         "ICMP_BANDLIM"

# FILESYSTEM OPTIONS
options		FFS			#Fast filesystem
options		MFS			#Memory File System
options		NFS			#Network File System
options		"CD9660"		#ISO 9660 filesystem
options		MSDOSFS			#MS DOS File System
options		PROCFS			#Process filesystem
options		FFS_ROOT		#FFS usable as root device
options		MFS_ROOT		#MFS usable as root device
options		NFS_ROOT		#NFS usable as root device
options		"CD9660_ROOT"		#CD-ROM usable as root device

# SCSI DEVICES
controller	scbus0	#base SCSI code
device		da0	#SCSI direct access devices (aka disks)
device		sa0	#SCSI tapes
device		cd0	#SCSI CD-ROMs
device		pass0	#CAM passthrough driver
options		SCSI_REPORT_GEOMETRY

# MISCELLANEOUS DEVICES AND OPTIONS

pseudo-device	pty	16	#Pseudo ttys - can go as high as 256
pseudo-device	speaker		#Play IBM BASIC-style noises out your speaker
pseudo-device	gzip		#Exec gzipped a.out's
#pseudo-device	snp	3	#Snoop device - to look at pty/vty/etc..
#pseudo-device	ccd	4	#Concatenated disk driver
# pseudo-device	vinum		#Vinum concat/mirror/raid driver
options		"MSGBUF_SIZE=40960"

# HARDWARE DEVICE CONFIGURATION
controller	isa0
controller	pnp0
controller	atkbdc0	at isa? port IO_KBD tty
device		atkbd0	at isa? tty irq 1
device		psm0	at isa? tty irq 12
device		vga0	at isa? port ? conflicts
#options	VGA_ALT_SEQACCESS
options		VESA			# needs VM86 defined too!!
pseudo-device	splash
device		sc0	at isa? tty
options		SC_HISTORY_SIZE=200	# number of history buffer lines
#options	SC_DISABLE_REBOOT	# disable reboot key sequence
device		npx0	at isa? port IO_NPX irq 13
controller	fdc0	at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio irq 6 drq 2
disk		fd0	at fdc0 drive 0
device		sio0	at isa? port "IO_COM1" tty flags 0x10 irq 4
device		pcm0	at isa? port ? tty irq 10 drq 1 flags 0x0
device		pca0	at isa? port "IO_TIMER1" tty
#device		joy0	at isa? port IO_GAME

controller	pci0
device		ahc0
device		xl0

# SMB bus
controller	smbus0
device		smb0	at smbus?
# I2C Bus
controller	iicbus0
controller	iicbb0
device		ic0      at iicbus?
device		iic0     at iicbus?
device		iicsmb0  at iicbus?



# Parallel-Port Bus
controller	ppbus0
controller	vpo0	at ppbus?
device		lpt0	at ppbus?
device		plip0	at ppbus?
device		ppi0	at ppbus?

#
# More undocumented options for linting.
# options		CLK_CALIBRATION_LOOP
options		"CLK_USE_I8254_CALIBRATION"
options		CLK_USE_TSC_CALIBRATION
options		NO_LKM
options		COMPAT_LINUX
options		"EXT2FS"
options		SHOW_BUSYBUFS	# List buffers that prevent root unmount

# USB
controller	uhci0
controller	ohci0
controller	usb0
device		ugen0	# Generic USB device driver
device		uhid0	# Human Interface Device (anything w/ buttons and dials)
device		ukbd0	# USB keyboard
device		ulpt0	# USB printer
device		ums0	# USB mouse

bash-2.03# exit

Script done on Tue Sep 28 20:15:26 1999

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From owner-freebsd-stable  Tue Sep 28 17:53: 8 1999
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On Wed, 29 Sep 1999, Gregory Bond wrote:

> Hi.  We have two routers on our local net.  Only one is our default, of course.
> When I ping a host that is via the other route, I get 2 ICMP REDIRECTs (one for
> the specific host, one for the net) for every outgoing ping packet.
> 
> I.e. i'm getting redirects for the second ... nth packets.  I kind-of assumed
> the first redirect would update the local routing tables so that subsequent
> pings would go direct to the correct gateway.  And "netstat -r" does show a
> _host_ entry, but not a _net_ entry.  And another ping to the same host will go
> to the correct gateway, but a ping to another host on the same remote net will 
> also elicit 2 REDIRECTS per packet, and install a host route.
> 
> I am surprised by 2 elements of this behaviour:
>  - the REDIRECT doesn't affect the route chosen by the current ping process
>  - only the HOST_REDIRECT gets installed in the routing table
> 
> Is this the expected behaviour?

  Well, remember that ICMP redirects are just bandages to cover routing
problems.  No one really should be routing that way.

  ICMP redirects are easily spoofed, so many systems ignore them.
Otherwise they risk having their connectivity being disconnected on whim.
Also, many systems no longer send ICMP redirects because some people
actually want to pass traffic through an intervening system!  I don't know
how FreeBSD ships these days, but I suggest that it should ship with
ignore ICMP redirects as the default.

  I find it very odd that your router is sending two redirects per packet.
A host and network redirect sounds very scary.  Good thing your box is
ignoring the ICMP network redirect, otherwise I could hose your network so
quickly.  How quickly do routes added by ICMP redirect expire? :)

  Why not just add a route on your workstation/server, or enable a routing
protocol?  RIPv2 is simple, and offer authentication too.


Tom



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At 04:30 PM 9/28/99 +0200, A. Satow wrote:
>Question: As dmesg shows the following message. Is this stable 3.3 ? 
>	
>    The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
>  	FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE #0: Fri Sep 24 09:43:40 CEST 1999

Not really.  Like it says, it's 3.3-RELEASE - 3.3-STABLE is the branch that
continually improves and periodically freezes into releases.  3.3-RELEASE
is a fine starting point, though.

>2.  Downloaded Base Delta and corresponding Deltas up to now.
>    .../FreeBSD/CTM/src-3/src-3.0200xEmpty.gz, etc.
>
>Question: Are these the correct Deltas I should use?

You should download src-3.0300xEmpty.gz instead (it's more economical to dl
the _latest_ xEmpty) but besides that it looks fine.

>3.  Subscribed to Mailing lists: ctm-src-3, ctm-announce. 

Good.

>4.  Ports collection:  
>    .../FreeBSD/CTM/ports-cur/

*big shrug*  I guess this is used to keep the ports in synch?  I really
have no idea; I've never used it.

>5.  BTW (just curiosity): In the Mailing-List index there is a group called 
>    ctm-src-3-fast. What is it for?

No idea.

>I would be very glad to receive any hint in which direction I should start
>and appreciate any help.

You should look at http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/synching.html#CTM and
also at the -stable and -questions archives.  I know there are some
postings on how to use CTM, dating from when I was trying to figure it out
and there seemed to be only one person in world who'd ever used it
before...  I guess it's not very popular.  But hey, I like it, and it's
easy once you know what you're doing  :)

If you have any further questions, just ask.



-Charon


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> Dear STABLE users, 
> below is a copy of my message to comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc 
> about the problems with adaptec 2940 UW/U2W cards.     I would
> appreciate if anyone would have some ideas on what might be
> going wrong.   I have observed this problem on 2 machines with
> the same hardware, so termination and cables should not be causing
> that.
> 
> We have a Dell computer with the Phoenix bios and Adaptec 2940 UW
> card.  This computer worked fine until I tried to replace Adaptec
> 2940UW with 2940 U2W.  The card had internal scsi drive connected to
> the internal UW connector, and an external U2W LVD drive connected to
> the external U2W connector.  Both drives were terminated.  During the
> boot, I noticed the following error messages:

Is the 2940UW unterminated?  Do you have a UW compliant external SCSI
cable?  Is the total bus length <1.5M (4.5 feet)?

...
> 
> Did anyone else have bad experience with these cards,   or do you think this 
> combination of adapted card + phoenix bios might be causing problems?  Thanks!

No, I think it is a scsi bus problem with the quality/quantity of cable
or quality of termination.


-- 
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From owner-freebsd-stable  Tue Sep 28 19:11:58 1999
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I'd suspect the external SCSI cable if disconnecting it (and presumably
enabling termination on the card) fixed the problem...  I wouldn't rule
out cables just because you have 2 machines with the same hardware...  
Could have been a bad run of cables from the same manuf., or just
el-cheapo cables...

On 29 Sep 1999 vladimir-scsi@math.uic.edu wrote:

> Dear STABLE users, 
> below is a copy of my message to comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc 
> about the problems with adaptec 2940 UW/U2W cards.     I would
> appreciate if anyone would have some ideas on what might be
> going wrong.   I have observed this problem on 2 machines with
> the same hardware, so termination and cables should not be causing
> that.
> 
> We have a Dell computer with the Phoenix bios and Adaptec 2940 UW
> card.  This computer worked fine until I tried to replace Adaptec
> 2940UW with 2940 U2W.  The card had internal scsi drive connected to
> the internal UW connector, and an external U2W LVD drive connected to
> the external U2W connector.  Both drives were terminated.  During the
> boot, I noticed the following error messages:
> 
> Sep 27 21:59:22 dottie /kernel: (da3:ahc0:0:6:0): WRITE(06). CDB: a 0 8 3f 4 0
> Sep 27 21:59:22 dottie /kernel: (da3:ahc0:0:6:0): ABORTED COMMAND asc:47,0
> Sep 27 21:59:22 dottie /kernel: (da3:ahc0:0:6:0): SCSI parity error field replaceable unit: 3
> 
> (scsi id 6 is the external drive).    I played with various settings of the adaptec bios to no avail.
> 
> First I thought that the card was bad.  But then I tried replacing it
> with 2940 UW Pro (same as 2940UW, but faster transfer rate), and got
> an error on boot saying "Someone reset channel A".  This message
> repeats indefinitely.
> 
> All problems go away if I leave only the internal device on the scsi chain.
> 
> Did anyone else have bad experience with these cards,   or do you think this 
> combination of adapted card + phoenix bios might be causing problems?  Thanks!
> 
> 	Vladimir
> 	vladimir@math.uic.edu
> 
> PS a part of the messages file is below (sorry for a long post).
> 
> Sep 27 21:59:20 dottie /kernel: Copyright (c) 1992-1999 FreeBSD Inc.
> Sep 27 21:59:20 dottie /kernel: Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993
> Sep 27 21:59:20 dottie /kernel: The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
> Sep 27 21:59:20 dottie /kernel: FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE #0: Thu Sep 16 21:02:26 CDT 1999
> Sep 27 21:59:20 dottie /kernel: vladimir@dottie.math.uic.edu:/usr/src/sys/compile/DOTTIE
> Sep 27 21:59:20 dottie /kernel: Timecounter "i8254"  frequency 1193182 Hz
> Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: CPU: Pentium Pro (198.95-MHz 686-class CPU)
> Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0x619  Stepping = 9
> Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: Features=0xfbff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV>
> Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: real memory  = 201326592 (196608K bytes)
> Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: avail memory = 191746048 (187252K bytes)
> Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc037c000.
> Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled
> Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: Probing for devices on PCI bus 0:
> Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: Correcting Natoma config for non-SMP
> Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: chip0: <Intel 82440FX (Natoma) PCI and memory controller> rev 0x02 on pci0.0.0
> Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: chip1: <Intel 82371SB PCI to ISA bridge> rev 0x01 on pci0.13.0
> Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: ide_pci0: <Intel PIIX3 Bus-master IDE controller> rev 0x00 on pci0.13.1
> Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: chip2: <PCI to PCI bridge (vendor=1011 device=0021)> rev 0x02 on pci0.14.0
> Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: vga0: <S3 Trio graphics accelerator> rev 0x54 int a irq 0 on pci0.16.0
> Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: Probing for devices on PCI bus 1:
> Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: xl0: <3Com 3c905-TX Fast Etherlink XL> rev 0x00 int a irq 11 on pci1.8.0
> Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: xl0: Ethernet address: 00:c0:4f:bf:f6:a8
> Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: xl0: autoneg not complete, no carrier (forcing half-duplex, 10Mbps)
> Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: ahc0: <Adaptec 2940 Ultra2 SCSI adapter> rev 0x00 int a irq 11 on pci1.9.0
> Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: ahc0: aic7890/91 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs
> Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: xl1: <3Com 3c905B-TX Fast Etherlink XL> rev 0x30 int a irq 9 on pci1.10.0
> Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: xl1: Ethernet address: 00:10:5a:e5:30:ee
> Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: xl1: autoneg complete, link status good (half-duplex, 100Mbps)
> Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: Probing for PnP devices:
> Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: CSN 1 Vendor ID: CTL0054 [0x54008c0e] Serial 0x06b52735 Comp ID: @@@0000 [0x00000000]
> Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: Probing for devices on the ISA bus:
> Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: sc0 on isa
> Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0>
> Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: atkbdc0 at 0x60-0x6f on motherboard
> Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: atkbd0 irq 1 on isa
> Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: psm0 irq 12 on isa
> Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0
> Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa
> Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: sio0: type 16550A
> Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa
> Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: sio1: type 16550A
> Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa
> Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold
> Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in
> Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: ppc0 at 0x378 irq 7 flags 0x40 on isa
> Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: ppc0: Generic chipset (ECP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode
> Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/8 bytes threshold
> Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: lpt0: <generic printer> on ppbus 0
> Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: lpt0: Interrupt-driven port
> Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: ppi0: <generic parallel i/o> on ppbus 0
> Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: plip0: <PLIP network interface> on ppbus 0
> Sep 27 21:59:21 dottie /kernel: ie0: unknown board_id: f000
> Sep 27 21:59:22 dottie /kernel: vga0 at 0x3b0-0x3df maddr 0xa0000 msize 131072 on isa
> Sep 27 21:59:22 dottie /kernel: npx0 on motherboard
> Sep 27 21:59:22 dottie /kernel: npx0: INT 16 interface
> Sep 27 21:59:22 dottie /kernel: Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle
> Sep 27 21:59:22 dottie /kernel: sa0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 4 lun 0
> Sep 27 21:59:22 dottie /kernel: sa0: <HP C1533A 9503> Removable Sequential Access SCSI-2 device 
> Sep 27 21:59:22 dottie /kernel: sa0: 3.300MB/s transfers
> Sep 27 21:59:22 dottie /kernel: da3 at ahc0 bus 0 target 6 lun 0
> Sep 27 21:59:22 dottie /kernel: da3: <SEAGATE ST39175LW 0001> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device 
> Sep 27 21:59:22 dottie /kernel: da3: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 15, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled
> Sep 27 21:59:22 dottie /kernel: da3: 8683MB (17783240 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1106C)
> Sep 27 21:59:22 dottie /kernel: da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
> Sep 27 21:59:22 dottie /kernel: da0: <SEAGATE ST34371W 0484> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device 
> Sep 27 21:59:22 dottie /kernel: da0: 3.300MB/s transfers, Tagged Queueing Enabled
> Sep 27 21:59:22 dottie /kernel: da0: 4095MB (8388314 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 522C)
> Sep 27 21:59:22 dottie /kernel: da1 at ahc0 bus 0 target 3 lun 0
> Sep 27 21:59:22 dottie /kernel: da1: <SEAGATE ST15150N 0024> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device 
> Sep 27 21:59:22 dottie /kernel: da1: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 15), Tagged Queueing Enabled
> Sep 27 21:59:22 dottie /kernel: da1: 4095MB (8388315 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 522C)
> Sep 27 21:59:22 dottie /kernel: da2 at ahc0 bus 0 target 5 lun 0
> Sep 27 21:59:22 dottie /kernel: da2: <SEAGATE ST15230N 0252> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device 
> Sep 27 21:59:22 dottie /kernel: da2: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 15), Tagged Queueing Enabled
> Sep 27 21:59:22 dottie /kernel: da2: 4095MB (8386733 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 522C)
> Sep 27 21:59:22 dottie /kernel: changing root device to da0s1a
> Sep 27 21:59:22 dottie /kernel: (da3:ahc0:0:6:0): WRITE(06). CDB: a 0 8 3f 4 0 
> Sep 27 21:59:22 dottie /kernel: (da3:ahc0:0:6:0): ABORTED COMMAND asc:47,0
> Sep 27 21:59:22 dottie /kernel: (da3:ahc0:0:6:0): SCSI parity error field replaceable unit: 3
> Sep 27 21:59:24 dottie /kernel: (da3:ahc0:0:6:0): WRITE(06). CDB: a 0 8 3f 4 0 
> 
> 
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From owner-freebsd-stable  Tue Sep 28 20:46:53 1999
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On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, Jeremy McMillan wrote:

> You need to read the spec for El-Torito.
> 
> Basically, you need a boot image written to block 0 of your raw CD-R. That
> boot image needs to know how to access your hardware (ie. load a kernel from
> somewhere?). Bootable CDROM supporting BIOS just looks at the first block of
> your CDROM and uses it *just* like the boot blocks from a floppy.

This is not the most helpful response. At your urging, I read the El
Torito spec, and what you're saying above does not appear to be true
of the Walnut Creek 3.2 install CD I have or the ISO image for the 3.3
install CD. What you're describing seems to be the "multiple boot
image configuration" that's discussed in the spec. The 3.2 and 3.3 CDs
appear to be of the "single boot image configuration" variety.

Reading through the mkisofs man page, it that that the ISO image
should contain all of the information necessary to make this CD-R
bootable. Has anyone actually booted off of a CD-R that they've burnt
from the September 17, 1999, image? The disc works fine for installing
packages, etc., but it fails with an error during boot that looks
something like "Booting from ATAPI CD-ROM: Failure." (Most of the
machines around here have Award BIOS, and they all give that error.)

Again, I'm using a copy of the burncd.sh script that I modified to
reference /dev/rwcd0c instead of the HP burner described in the
original script. I have an Acer 4432 CD-RW. The burncd.sh script uses
wormcontrol and not cdrecord -- if cdrecord works with ATAPI
CD-R/CD-RW drives the man page doesn't say so.

The information on burning CDs under FreeBSD is very spotty. I've been
to the freebsd.org site, dejanews, and altavista, only to scrape
together fragments of info. I'd be happy to collect and organize this
information if people out there have it.

Regards,
Ed

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From owner-freebsd-stable  Tue Sep 28 22:13:12 1999
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> This is not the most helpful response. At your urging, I read the El
> Torito spec, and what you're saying above does not appear to be true
> of the Walnut Creek 3.2 install CD I have or the ISO image for the 3.3

All bootable Walnut Creek CDROM FreeBSD CDs use the El Torrito boot
hack to accomplish their purpose.  It's the -b flag to mkisofs.

> Reading through the mkisofs man page, it that that the ISO image
> should contain all of the information necessary to make this CD-R
> bootable. Has anyone actually booted off of a CD-R that they've burnt
> from the September 17, 1999, image? The disc works fine for installing

Yes.  However, it seems to have problems with ATAPI CDROM drives
(where it works fine with SCSI) and we're still scratching our heads
over that one.  What works for one should work for both, but no.  It
would be a lot easier to debug if it just plain didn't work for
*anyone*, you know? :)

- Jordan


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hi, there!

On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, Doug wrote:

> > > I looks like a bug to me.  But it shouldn't show up for login, because
> > > the program itself loads libcrypt.  Are you using the pam_unix module
> > > with some other program?
> > 
> > XFree86 3.3.5 uses PAM. I'm checking this out...
> 
> 	I've also noticed that logging in with xdm bypasses the
> /etc/login.conf stuff, or at least it seems to since xdm is blatting the
> PATH I have set up in login.conf. I haven't had time to go deeper than
> that, but if you are looking at it anyway this may be related. 
> 
> 	Of course my "solution" was to add a PATH statement to my
> .xsession...

see PR ports/13614

/fjoe

PS btw $LANG setting is much more important as xkb does not work properly
when $LANG is not set




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From owner-freebsd-stable  Tue Sep 28 22:20:56 1999
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what is the difference if I do not use exec anywhere?
what does exec command do exactly?

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On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, Mikhail Teterin wrote:

> Evren Yurtesen once stated:
> 
> =Also when I start  kde in the ps ax output I always  see 4 instances of
> =startkde program. How can I solve this problem>??
> =
> =
> =dc:/usr/local/bin#ps ax |grep kde
> = 6835  ??  I      0:00.01 /bin/sh /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/Xsession kde
> = 6847  ??  I      0:00.00 /bin/sh /usr/local/bin/startkde
> = 6848  ??  I      0:00.00 /bin/sh /usr/local/bin/startkde
> = 6849  ??  I      0:00.00 /bin/sh /usr/local/bin/startkde
> = 6850  ??  I      0:00.00 /bin/sh /usr/local/bin/startkde
> = 7151  p3  D+     0:00.00 grep kde
> =dc:/usr/local/bin#
> 
> This is because startkde is rather stupid  AND there is an old minor bug
> inf  FreeBSD's /bin/sh  -- it  does  not do  just exec(3)  for the  last
> command  in the  script,  but fork(2)  and  exec(3) as  for  all of  the
> intermidiate commands. This  results in the parent  sh process uselessly
> waiting  for the  last command  to finish.  The bug  lives for  so long,
> because it  does not really  do much harm,  other then wasting  a little
> swap and process-entries. The work-around is rather simple too -- use
> sh's exec command explicitly for your last command.
> 
> Make sure,  your /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/Xsession explicitly  says ``exec
> startkde'' and use the following as /usr/local/bin/startkde :
> 
> #!/bin/sh
> #
> #  Misha's KDE STARTUP SCRIPT ( KDE-1.1 )
> #
> 
> # initialize the configuration first.
> 
> kcontrol -init
> sleep 1 ; kaudioserver
> sleep 1 ; kwmsound &
> 
> # Add -ncols 96 after kfm if using a 8-bit display
> sleep 1 ; kfm &
> 
> sleep 1 ; krootwm &
> sleep 1 ; kpanel &
> sleep 2 ; kbgndwm &
> 
> # finally, give the session control to the window manager
> sleep 2 ; exec kwm
> 
> 	Good luck,
> 
> 		-mi
> 
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From owner-freebsd-stable  Tue Sep 28 22:23:30 1999
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I could not even make SVGA server work with higher 
resolutions than 800x600 (well it worked 1280x1024 interlaced though)
so I do not think that the SVGA servre really supports Trio3D so far
If you have money to spend on I suggest accelerated X server.
It is working very very good!

On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, Alex Povolotsky wrote:

> Hello!
> 
> I've tried to set up XFree86 from 3.3-RELEASE distribution on an AMD
> K6-2-300 box with AGP S3 Trio3D, and the server runs slo-o-o-O-o-w. It 
> draws windows and canvas fast, but text is drawn EXTREMLY slow, with
> interval about 3-4 seconds between (fast!) drawings.
> 
> Is it incompartible hardware, bad setup, or problem with XF86_SVGA?
> 
> -- 
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On 29-Sep-99 Evren Yurtesen wrote:
>  I could not even make SVGA server work with higher 
>  resolutions than 800x600 (well it worked 1280x1024 interlaced though)
>  so I do not think that the SVGA servre really supports Trio3D so far
>  If you have money to spend on I suggest accelerated X server.
>  It is working very very good!

You may as well buy a fast card supported by XFree86 with the money you'd spend
on Accel X :)

(TNT2's are fairly cheap and fast)

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On Tue, Sep 28, 1999 at 05:52:31PM -0700, Tom wrote:
[...]
> 
>   Well, remember that ICMP redirects are just bandages to cover routing
> problems.  No one really should be routing that way.
> 
>   ICMP redirects are easily spoofed, so many systems ignore them.
> Otherwise they risk having their connectivity being disconnected on whim.
> Also, many systems no longer send ICMP redirects because some people
> actually want to pass traffic through an intervening system!  I don't know
> how FreeBSD ships these days, but I suggest that it should ship with
> ignore ICMP redirects as the default.
> 
4.0-CURRENT has net.inet.icmp.log_redirect and net.inet.icmp.drop_redirect,
for respectively logging and dropping ICMP REDIRECT packets (`off' by default).

Both 4.0-CURRENT and 3.3-RELEASE have net.inet.ip.redirect which controls
sending of ICMP redirects in response to unforwardable IP packets (defaults
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At 10:11 PM -0400 1999/9/28, Alok K. Dhir wrote:

> I'd suspect the external SCSI cable if disconnecting it (and presumably
> enabling termination on the card) fixed the problem...  I wouldn't rule
> out cables just because you have 2 machines with the same hardware...

	I wouldn't be surprised if the cables were marginally okay for UW 
use, but fail miserably for U2W LVD use.  They may not even be 
differential SCSI cables, and in that case I would expect major 
problems in trying to use them with U2W LVD drives.

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From owner-freebsd-stable  Wed Sep 29  1:17:22 1999
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Hi,

On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:

> I'd suggest trying a 3.3-stable snapshot, just as soon as I can
> get those rolling off of releng3.freebsd.org again.  If it still
> occurs, we're now at least debugging the latest and greatest.

 Isn't -STABLE tracking OK ?
 Unfortunately I don't think I can afford reinstalling a new release (this
is a production server). Do you think the installation got somehow trashed
during these succesive updates (with 'make [build|install]world') ? I've
been thinking about remote attacks too (there are no user shells), could
this be a cause ?

 BTW, this morning my co-workers caught another freeze; luckily I left a
top running on a VTY; they told me that the majority of the processes were
in the "idle" STATE -- strange, I haven't seen this in top until now.
Could this be a hint ?


> 
> - Jordan
> 

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"Lowkrantz, Goran" wrote:
> 
> What does the following text in the release notes mean in the current
> context?
> 
> [snipp]
> 
> The following drivers were supported under the old SCSI subsystem, but are
> NOT YET supported under the new CAM SCSI subsystem:
> 
> [snipp]
> 
> I would interpret this as I can get them working somehow in 3.3R.

Huh? What part of "NOT YET supported" don't you understand? Now, I
*hate* not having AIC support, as it prevents me from having X and a
cvs tree in my computer, but the statement looks pretty clear to me.

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"Lowkrantz, Goran" wrote:
> 
> Just as a note, there is not a word in the release notes that the old SCSI
> and the CAM SCSI can't exist at the same time on the same machine. If CAM is
> the only SCSI subsystem that can live on a 3.x system, I would say that all
> the cards that use a driver not available in CAM is not supported on a
> FreeBSD 3.x. Then they should not be in the list of supported cards. The way
> I interpret the word supported, if something is supported in an operating
> system, it works. Feel free to have any other interpretation but then it's
> marketing.

This information is there so that people who have one of these cards
can find that it is no longer supported. If we kept silent, people
would try to upgrade systems that rely on non-supported hardware
just because it was previously supported.

It was wishful reading on your part.

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From owner-freebsd-stable  Wed Sep 29  3:52:47 1999
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On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, Ed Watkeys wrote:

: Reading through the mkisofs man page, it that that the ISO image
: should contain all of the information necessary to make this CD-R
: bootable. Has anyone actually booted off of a CD-R that they've burnt
: from the September 17, 1999, image? The disc works fine for installing
: packages, etc., but it fails with an error during boot that looks
: something like "Booting from ATAPI CD-ROM: Failure." (Most of the
: machines around here have Award BIOS, and they all give that error.)

This might be useful information; I don't know.  I was burning a
few (untested right now) and one of the CD-Rs I had would not start
recording at sector 0; instead it tried to start recording at sector
49,000-something.  SInce the CD-R had never been used before I
assumed it was bad.  Now with 49,000 extra sectors, I could not
complete the burn (it ran out of room) -- but with just a few, you
might be prevented from burning the CD...

Just a thought :-)

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On Tue, Sep 28, 1999 at 12:48:57PM -0700, Doug wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, Evren Yurtesen wrote:
> 
> > I have the same problem. I even tried to put old screen saver
> > programs there but it did not help any.
> > Would you send me email if you can find a solution?
> 
> 	Before I forget this question really belongs on the -questions
> list where it was covered in depth recently. The problem is that the kde
> screensavers in 1.1.2 don't have the suid bit. 'chmod u+s
> /usr/local/bin/*.kss' is the shotgun solution, you might want to enable
> only the one(s) you actually use. 

Cool. However, I found that after I rebuilt the screensavers and did a
make install by hand, the screensaver unlocked properly. The make
install did not set the suid bit on the *.kss files. Maybe it's because I
configured it to use PAM.

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From owner-freebsd-stable  Wed Sep 29  4:59:28 1999
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Hi!
What peculiar feature is it, that symlinks have modes !=0777 depending on
the umask when they have been created?

# umask 0777
# ln -fs xx yy
# ls -l yy
l---------  1 pruess  sophie  2 Sep 29 13:54 yy@ -> xx
# umask 0000
# ln -fs xx yy
# ls -l yy
lrwxrwxrwx  1 pruess  sophie  2 Sep 29 13:55 yy@ -> xx

Of course the mode is inaccessible by chmod.

Thanks,
Gunnar
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On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:

> All bootable Walnut Creek CDROM FreeBSD CDs use the El Torrito boot
> hack to accomplish their purpose.  It's the -b flag to mkisofs.

> Yes.  However, it seems to have problems with ATAPI CDROM drives
> (where it works fine with SCSI) and we're still scratching our heads
> over that one.  What works for one should work for both, but no.  It
> would be a lot easier to debug if it just plain didn't work for
> *anyone*, you know? :)

Well, to make this a bit more depressing, I burned the ISO image using
Adaptec's "Easy CD Creator" on an NT machine around here, and I got
exactly the same behavior -- fine image, no booting. (Same ATAPI CD-RW
drive.)

Which makes me begin to wonder about the image...

Anyway, the next steps are to bring in my Philips SCSI CD-R and give
things a whirl. On a Mac, with Windows, and with FreeBSD.

I'm still looking for someone who's successfully booted from this
image.

Ed

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At 08:59 AM 9/29/1999 -0400, Ed Watkeys wrote:
>On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:
>
> > All bootable Walnut Creek CDROM FreeBSD CDs use the El Torrito boot
> > hack to accomplish their purpose.  It's the -b flag to mkisofs.
>
> > Yes.  However, it seems to have problems with ATAPI CDROM drives
> > (where it works fine with SCSI) and we're still scratching our heads
> > over that one.  What works for one should work for both, but no.  It
> > would be a lot easier to debug if it just plain didn't work for
> > *anyone*, you know? :)
>
>Well, to make this a bit more depressing, I burned the ISO image using
>Adaptec's "Easy CD Creator" on an NT machine around here, and I got
>exactly the same behavior -- fine image, no booting. (Same ATAPI CD-RW
>drive.)
>
>Which makes me begin to wonder about the image...
>
>Anyway, the next steps are to bring in my Philips SCSI CD-R and give
>things a whirl. On a Mac, with Windows, and with FreeBSD.
>
>I'm still looking for someone who's successfully booted from this
>image.

I just burned the image on an NT box using Goldenhawk's Cdrwin.  The CD 
boots just fine on a Compaq AP400 with an ATAPI CDROM.

Jim



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If memory serves me right, Brad Knowles wrote:
> At 10:11 PM -0400 1999/9/28, Alok K. Dhir wrote:
> 
> > I'd suspect the external SCSI cable if disconnecting it (and presumably
> > enabling termination on the card) fixed the problem...  I wouldn't rule
> > out cables just because you have 2 machines with the same hardware...
> 
> 	I wouldn't be surprised if the cables were marginally okay for UW 
> use, but fail miserably for U2W LVD use.  They may not even be 
> differential SCSI cables, and in that case I would expect major 
> problems in trying to use them with U2W LVD drives.

It's not clear whether this post is applicable or not to this 
situation, but...

A lesson I learned last week is to check the connectors for bent pins.  
I had a 2940U2W that I was convinced was broken, until one of my 
cow-orkers checked the connectors and found a bent pin.  I wasted about 
a half a day because it didn't dawn upon me to check for this failure 
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Subject: Re: problems with adaptec 2940 cards on 3.3-STABLE
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To: bmah@CA.Sandia.GOV
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 08:31:19 -0700 (PDT)
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> If memory serves me right, Brad Knowles wrote:
> > At 10:11 PM -0400 1999/9/28, Alok K. Dhir wrote:
> > 
> > > I'd suspect the external SCSI cable if disconnecting it (and presumably
> > > enabling termination on the card) fixed the problem...  I wouldn't rule
> > > out cables just because you have 2 machines with the same hardware...
> > 
> > 	I wouldn't be surprised if the cables were marginally okay for UW 
> > use, but fail miserably for U2W LVD use.  They may not even be 
> > differential SCSI cables, and in that case I would expect major 
> > problems in trying to use them with U2W LVD drives.
> 
> It's not clear whether this post is applicable or not to this 
> situation, but...
> 
> A lesson I learned last week is to check the connectors for bent pins.  
> I had a 2940U2W that I was convinced was broken, until one of my 
> cow-orkers checked the connectors and found a bent pin.  I wasted about 
> a half a day because it didn't dawn upon me to check for this failure 
> mode.

To make you feel better I have spent 2 days before I found the bent
pin on a SCSI bus, and 2 weeks on an DG MV/8000 minicomputer before we
found the 100 ohm backplane connection :-).

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>>>>> "Brad" == Brad Knowles <blk@skynet.be> writes:

Brad> 	Perhaps others have had problems, but I haven't.  What
Brad> problems have you had in this area?

Well... firstly, the design of the system was to put everything (even
swap) on the RAID drive.  The root is outside, of course... and this
took some doing, but that's how the system is currently configured.
I'm not confident that dumping to the raid-swap would be correct.

I may be able to find another drive to dump to, but that will take
several days.

Dave.

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Michael Robinson wrote:
> 
> Eliezer Rodriguez Gonzalez <elie@uncle.cult.cu>
>                                             ^^
> >I take this opportunity to say that the choice of downloading the first CD
> >out of the 4 CDs set is very welcome for all of us uncapable of purchasing
> >our own copies due to many reasons I won't explain here.
>                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> This is so amazingly cool, I'm beside myself with glee.
> 
> Viva el BSD Libre!

The translation might be "gratis" instead of "libre", depending on
your view. (If Linuxen, "gratis" is definitely more appropriate :).

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Ed Watkeys wrote:
> =

> The information on burning CDs under FreeBSD is very spotty. I've been
> to the freebsd.org site, dejanews, and altavista, only to scrape
> together fragments of info. I'd be happy to collect and organize this
> information if people out there have it.

The following was posted to -current. I expect some of it might not
be applicable, but, hey, it's information, right? :-)

From: Amancio Hasty <hasty@rah.star-gate.com>   08/20/99 18:37
Subject: How To Burn CDs
To: Freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG

This is a summary of the information that I gather over the last =

few days with respect to CD recorders.


It appears that the preferred and better supported CD recorders are
scsi . To shorten the gap what is needed is for ATAPI cd recorders
to be integrated into CAM so that we may present a unified interface
to both ATAPI and SCSI CD drives. Post on -hackers if you are =

interested in working on such a project.



The rest of this document will deal with scsi cd recorders.


Software Tools :

cdrecord is used to  burn the CDs . cdrecord http home:
http://www.fokus.gmd.de/research/cc/glone/employees/joerg.schilling/priva=
te/cdr
ecord.htm

        cdrecord supports CD-R, CD-RW and Audio CD (Red Book)
formants.

cdda2wav which is now bundled with cdrecord can extract audio CD
tracks.

         cdrecord is part of the ports/sysutils collection.


tosha    is another scsi tool to extract CD audio tracks and it is
           in the ports/audio directory . tosha is native program to =

           FreeBSD. tosha was written by Oliver Fromme  =

<oliver.fromme@heim3.tu-clausthal.de>

cdd      another native freebsd program to extract CD audio tracks
was
           written by Charles Henrich and is =

           part of the ports/audio collection.

mkisofs  is used to create an iso 9660 cd image. It is located =

         in the ports/sysutils collection


If one of the audio "rippers" does not work report the problem after
first making sure that the program does indeed support your
CD disk unit and then just try another one.


For a list of "reported to work" drives that work with cdrecord +
cdd2wav see:
http://www.fokus.gmd.de/research/cc/glone/employees/joerg.schilling/priva=
te/cdw
riters-1.8.html

External vs. Internal I find that my YAMAHA CRW6416sz scsi cd =

recorder runs rather cool . Some members on the list have reported
that at least early models of their CD-Recorders run hot so they
preferred
to have them external due to the heat problem and/or portability .



A little bit on cdrecord.

To determine which scsi recorder is installed in your system issue:

cdrecorder -scanbus

Cdrecord release 1.8a22 Copyright (C) 1995-1999 J=F6rg Schilling
scsibus0:
                  0) 'SEAGATE ' 'ST34501W        ' '0017' Disk
                  1) 'YAMAHA  ' 'CRW6416S        ' '1.0b' Removable
CD-ROM
                  2) *
                  3) 'SEAGATE ' 'ST15150W        ' '0023' Disk
                  4) *
                  5) *
                  6) *
                  7) *
scsibus1:
                100) *
                101) *
                102) *
                103) *
                104) *
                105) 'UMAX    ' 'UMAX S-12       ' 'V2.0' Scanner
                106) *
                107) *

So my Yamaha CD recorder is scsi bus 0 , scsi address 1, lun 0.

I recommend sticking this information in /etc/default/record
cat /etc/default/cdrecord =

CDR_DEVICE=3D1,0

What this means is that every time that cdrecord runs it =

gets is device info from /etc/default/cdrecord .

If you feel somehow compel to always specify the scsi device in
cdrecord, the syntax is: -dev=3Dbus,scsi address, lun or
                      -dev=3Dscsi address, lun

in my case is:

                        -dev=3D1,0 (the default scsi bus is 0)




I recommend for the first few times to use a CD-RW. They =

are more expensive than CD-R;however, for playing for the first
time with your scsi cd recorder they can actually probably
save you a lot of money.



Now that you have all your hardware and software in place what can
you do 8)

To create an iso cd9660 with a CD-RW:
 mkisofs -R /mount/dir | cdrecord -blank=3Dfast -v fs=3D6m speed=3D3 -

mkisofs pipes an ISO 9660 cd image to cdrecord.

cdrecord does the actual cd burning:
        -blank=3Dfast        first it does a quick blank
        -v                 verbose mode so you can see what is doing
        fs=3D6m              forks a process and uses a 6MB buffer =

        speed=3D3            usually CD-RW can only be burned =

                           as fast as 4X you will have to experiment
                           with your cd recorder to see what speed
                           works best.

Take a break pending upon the size of the image the process
can take 1/2 hour to just a few minutes so kick back and relax.


Here is session for creating audio cds.

mkdir cdtracks
cd cdtracks

cddwa2wav -B

This command generates tracks in the format of:
audio_nn.wav where nn is a track number . audio in .wav format
audio_nn.inf where nn is a track number . pregap info =




cdrecord -blank=3Dfast -audio -useinfo audio*.wav

        -blank=3Dfast   blanks your CD-RW for CD-R don't include
                      this command
        -audio        sets audio cd recording
        -useinfo      use the pregap info generated by cdd2wav =

                      *.inf files

Issues:

In the list there was an exchange of using the tool team for =

buffering vs cdrecord's own buffering scheme:

"Another possibility, if you have the RAM, is to use the team(1)
program (it's in the ports) to buffer the data as it goes to the
burner.
You basically put it into the pipeline between mkisofs and cdrecord,
and
it buffers up to 5MB in memory (default, adjustable).  Of course,
you've
got to have enough RAM to not go into swap during the operation. =

It's a =

very nice program, and I've been told that, with enough memory
(32-64MB), you can be running X11 and compiling programs while the
CD is =

burning (this is with a 2X burner, though)."

    "It should be noted that the 'cdrecord' program implements a
FIFO itself,
    and you can specify the size.  The default is 2MB.  cdrecord
uses a
    shared memory segment and forks so the process buffering the
data is
    made independant of the buffer draining it.

    Modern CD writers usually have 1-2MB of buffer internally.  The
newer
    Yamahas, for example, have 2MB.

    So right off the bat we have around 4MB.  Still, when you are
writing at
    600KB/sec it is possible to get behind if the filesystem you are
building
    has lots of small files.  Apart from writing the mkisofs output
to a file,
    the easiest solution is to tell cdrecord to burn at a slower
rate - e.g.
    1x or 2x instead of 4x or 6x.

Possible Problem and we need clarification

And to head off another question:  When you are recording to a CD-RW
you can do a 'quick erase' of the media using 'cdrecord blank=3Dfast'.
This does not actually erase the data, so if you have used say 100MB
you will only have 550MB left.  You can actually erase the media
using
'cdrecord blank=3Dall', which takes a while.
 =

  In my experience, this is not true.  I have used blank=3Dfast on a
CDRW
  that has over 500 MB written, and then written another 500 MB
without
  a problem.

  I have the same experience. Maybe someone into the physics of the
media
  can explain what the pros-cons are as far as the media itself is
concerned?


Hardware : =


Yamaha CRW6416sz scsi 2 internal cd recorder

I bought the Yamaha CRW6416sz scsi 2 iternal because it is =

somewhat cheap and reliable . You can buy one at CompUSA for
$300.

Reported scsi CD recorders which work and by no means this
list is not  exhaustive rather is nice to know from a FreeBSD user
that it works on their boxes.

1.  JKH swears by his Smart and Friendly Rocket Recorder
    scsi cd recorder  8)
    Honest is probably a good drive because JKH burns =

    quite a few CDs.

2.  Plextor scsi recorders 4x and 8x good recommendation from
    the list.

3.  Philips CDD-3600 CDRW drive

4.  Yamaha 4416 scsi recorder known to work on FreeBSD, Linux, SCO, =

    HP/UX, and NT

5.  Yamaha 6416sz scsi cd recorder.

Hidetoshi Shimokawa <simokawa@sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp> reported:
  I bought DVD-RAM drive for $400.
  5.2GB(double side) media is around $35, you can use them as 2.3GB
x 2
  disks.

  Enabling raw-write in scsi_cd.c, you can newfs/mount DVD-RAM as
UFS.
  Write speed is around 500KB/s, and read speed is around 1.4MB/s.

  Now this sounds like a very nice scsi cd recorder .

  Further input on DVD-RAM is welcome . =




-- =


 Amancio Hasty
 hasty@rah.star-gate.com


And now, for more stuff:


From: Amancio Hasty <hasty@rah.star-gate.com>   08/19/99 04:09
Subject: CD writer : Baby Hacker II
To: current@FreeBSD.ORG

1. Modify cdrecord so that if a device is not specified it will
   do a -scanbus . Present the user with a choice of cd recorders
   from which to chose from . =


   Ideally  there should be a generic device query interface to the
system so
   other similar utilities can do the same thing .

2. Create an LDAP schema to store the configuration for cdrecord.
   the entry should have:
   host , InetOrgPerson, cd recorder brand/model, device name,
scsibus address,
   CD-R speed, CD-RW speed...

   I can provide a servlet which can manage the configuration =

   of the LDAP server. If you are interested on LDAP =

   see: http://www.openldap.org and/or send me email.


3. A bit more dificult. Create a shared library module out of
cdrecord
    with an interface similar to netscape's plug-in . Pick a
graphical
    utility for instance gcombust and interface it to the plug-in.

4. Pie in the sky:
    Do step 2 and use xml as your protocol . For instance , if
    an app such gcombust sents a  status query to the plug-in
    its response should be encapsulated in xml : detailing the
device , =

    current status : recording/pause/playing/stop.


        Enjoy

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At 11:49 AM -0400 1999/9/29, David Gilbert wrote:

> Well... firstly, the design of the system was to put everything (even
> swap) on the RAID drive.  The root is outside, of course... and this
> took some doing, but that's how the system is currently configured.
> I'm not confident that dumping to the raid-swap would be correct.

	Hmm.  Since crash dumps are written by a process that I do not 
believe is vinum aware, I'd be willing to bet that they won't 
properly be written.  Even if that did work, I'm not sure where the 
crash dump recovery process is fired up, but I'd be willing to guess 
that it's before vinum gets started, so you'd have to also make some 
modifications there.

> I may be able to find another drive to dump to, but that will take
> several days.

	Swap and dump is not something that I would tend to be inclined 
to put on vinum.  At least not until we can get to the point where we 
can put all filesystems under vinum, including the root filesystem.

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> The information on burning CDs under FreeBSD is very spotty. I've been
> to the freebsd.org site, dejanews, and altavista, only to scrape
> together fragments of info. I'd be happy to collect and organize this
> information if people out there have it.

The linux cd writing howto has good information:

http://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/CD-Writing-HOWTO

Just ignore the linux-specific parts. Note that whereas Linux calls
mounting a file as a filesystem a loopback filesystem, FreeBSD calls it
a vnode filessystem (see vnconfig(8)).

I didn't see the need for any more information. The howto details using
mkisofs, cdrecord, etc..

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Newly installed 3.3-RELEASE, previously a 2.2.7-REL
box running without any hardware problems for days
and weeks.

Running: 4 ethernet cards (Intel fxp and two SMC on de driver), 
one ppp link (on tun0) and ipfw with natd and ADDED
dummynet bandwidth management.

The only thing new is dummynet, the rest is the same
as compared to 2.2.7-RELEASE box (few config changes required
for upgrade).

I am going soon to add DDB and dump partition, since
the panic is quite reproducible: I start to make
ucd-snmp from locally installed (no NFS) /usr/ports
tree. However, the machine panicked once even in
single user mode, after I have started fsck to repair
filesystems. 

The panic is in vm_page_insert(), and I have not
yet gathered more information, please be patient.

I also have to double-check the non trivial natd
configuration and perhaps it's time to file a PR.

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To:             	Ed Watkeys <edw@poseur.com>
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> On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, Ed Watkeys wrote:
> 
> : Reading through the mkisofs man page, it that that the ISO image
> : should contain all of the information necessary to make this CD-R
> : bootable. Has anyone actually booted off of a CD-R that they've burnt
> : from the September 17, 1999, image? The disc works fine for installing
> : packages, etc., but it fails with an error during boot that looks
> : something like "Booting from ATAPI CD-ROM: Failure." (Most of the
> : machines around here have Award BIOS, and they all give that error.)
> 
> This might be useful information; I don't know.  I was burning a
> few (untested right now) and one of the CD-Rs I had would not start
> recording at sector 0; instead it tried to start recording at sector
> 49,000-something.  SInce the CD-R had never been used before I
> assumed it was bad.  Now with 49,000 extra sectors, I could not
> complete the burn (it ran out of room) -- but with just a few, you
> might be prevented from burning the CD...
> 
> Just a thought :-)
> 

> 
Hey Guys,

I I don't know if this has anything to do with your problem. I 
subscribe to freebsd through Walnut Creek. Yesterday I received my 
3.3 set and could not boot off of disk 1. I tried to boot off of disk 2 
which is the live file system. This disk booted and also started the 
install script. I was just wondering are you possibly getting the same 
iso images? 


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As vladimir-scsi@math.uic.edu wrote ...
> Dear STABLE users, 
> below is a copy of my message to comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc 
> about the problems with adaptec 2940 UW/U2W cards.     I would
> appreciate if anyone would have some ideas on what might be
> going wrong.   I have observed this problem on 2 machines with
> the same hardware, so termination and cables should not be causing
> that.
> 
> We have a Dell computer with the Phoenix bios and Adaptec 2940 UW
> card.  This computer worked fine until I tried to replace Adaptec
> 2940UW with 2940 U2W.  The card had internal scsi drive connected to
> the internal UW connector, and an external U2W LVD drive connected to
> the external U2W connector.  Both drives were terminated.  During the
> boot, I noticed the following error messages:
> 
> Sep 27 21:59:22 dottie /kernel: (da3:ahc0:0:6:0): WRITE(06). CDB: a 0 8 3f 4 0
> Sep 27 21:59:22 dottie /kernel: (da3:ahc0:0:6:0): ABORTED COMMAND asc:47,0
> Sep 27 21:59:22 dottie /kernel: (da3:ahc0:0:6:0): SCSI parity error field replaceable unit: 3
> 
> (scsi id 6 is the external drive).    I played with various settings of the adaptec bios to no avail.
> 
> First I thought that the card was bad.  But then I tried replacing it
> with 2940 UW Pro (same as 2940UW, but faster transfer rate), and got
> an error on boot saying "Someone reset channel A".  This message
> repeats indefinitely.
> 
> All problems go away if I leave only the internal device on the scsi chain.

Sounds like your actual cable is too long or the termination is not up
to snuff after all. USCSI buses should be < 1.5meter long.

My 2940UW works just fine with 3.3-stable.

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From owner-freebsd-stable  Wed Sep 29 12:23:37 1999
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Hello to all, 

I'm sorry if I'm not at the right list, but this one is closest to my
problem. I upgrade both source and port trees via cvsup for my 2.2.8 box.
Problem is, that INDEX doesn't keep up-to-date information about packages
in /usr/ports (even if I delete it, the one I fetch has several weeks old
info). Are there any utils for updating INDEX of ports tree, or am I doing
something wrong, so I don't get new version?

With respect,
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I just burned the image with Adaptec CD Deluxe on a Win98 system.  It
booted fine on an ATAPI CD drive (system has no SCSI devices or
controllers).

Cheers,
Alan

Jim King wrote:
> 
> At 08:59 AM 9/29/1999 -0400, Ed Watkeys wrote:
> >On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:
> >
> > > All bootable Walnut Creek CDROM FreeBSD CDs use the El Torrito boot
> > > hack to accomplish their purpose.  It's the -b flag to mkisofs.
> >
> > > Yes.  However, it seems to have problems with ATAPI CDROM drives
> > > (where it works fine with SCSI) and we're still scratching our heads
> > > over that one.  What works for one should work for both, but no.  It
> > > would be a lot easier to debug if it just plain didn't work for
> > > *anyone*, you know? :)
> >
> >Well, to make this a bit more depressing, I burned the ISO image using
> >Adaptec's "Easy CD Creator" on an NT machine around here, and I got
> >exactly the same behavior -- fine image, no booting. (Same ATAPI CD-RW
> >drive.)
> >
> >Which makes me begin to wonder about the image...
> >
> >Anyway, the next steps are to bring in my Philips SCSI CD-R and give
> >things a whirl. On a Mac, with Windows, and with FreeBSD.
> >
> >I'm still looking for someone who's successfully booted from this
> >image.
> 
> I just burned the image on an NT box using Goldenhawk's Cdrwin.  The CD
> boots just fine on a Compaq AP400 with an ATAPI CDROM.
> 
> Jim
> 
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From owner-freebsd-stable  Wed Sep 29 14:24:29 1999
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I just made a copy of the 3.2 installation CD and it booted fine. I used the
same hardware and software as for my unbootable 3.3 installation CDs.

Based on this info and the previous post by the person who just got
their un-bootable disc 1 from Walnut Creek, it seems to me that
there's (quite possibly) a problem with the image, not necessarily my
hardware. Someone mentioned that they have successfully booted off of
the 3.3 installation CD, but I don't think that person specified
whether they were using RELEASE or an RC.

Ed

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From owner-freebsd-stable  Wed Sep 29 15: 0: 1 1999
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Domas Mituzas once wrote:

> Are there any  utils for updating INDEX  of ports tree, or  am I doing
> something wrong, so I don't get new version?

	cd /usr/ports; make index

It takes forever, which is why it is automaticly regenerated every time...

		-mi


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Eliezer Rodriguez Gonzalez wrote:
> 
> Hello everybody:
> 
> Finally I was able to burn my own copy of 3.3-RELEASE, downloaded via ftp
> from a mirror site.
> I found out, by research and because Mr Fischer told me so, that while
> using version 1.6.1 of cdrecord there was a problem using the internal
> buffer, so I disabled that feature via the command option fs=0 and then
> everything worked fine and I was able to burn my CD-ROM with the older
> cdrecord version.

This also happens when using 1.8a28 under -current.. not quite sure why,
but i'm
guessing for the same reasons outlined in an earlier posting in this
thread.
(I'm going to try a29 next).

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G.P. wrote in list.freebsd-stable:
 > What peculiar feature is it, that symlinks have modes !=0777 depending on
 > the umask when they have been created?

Symlinks are "almost" regular files, just with a special
meaning, so why shouldn't they have modes, too?

 > Of course the mode is inaccessible by chmod.

chmod -H   (see ``man chmod'').

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As I recall, Mikhail Teterin wrote:
> Domas Mituzas once wrote:
> 
> > Are there any  utils for updating INDEX  of ports tree, or  am I doing
> > something wrong, so I don't get new version?
> 
> 	cd /usr/ports; make index
> 
> It takes forever, which is why it is automaticly regenerated every time...

And while you're at it, make readmes   :-)

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I have an application where having NFS mounts is required.  Looking back
through the recent archives, there still seem to be issues with NFS.
However, what is unclear is if this is primarily due to particular types of
I/O... In otherwords, if the nfs mount is Read Only, will I avoid the
majority of problems ? Or if I use V2 ? Or V3 ?

Thanks,

	---Mike
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On Thu, Sep 30, 1999 at 04:17:46AM +1000, takuan@allunix.com wrote:
> Yesterday I received my 
>3.3 set and could not boot off of disk 1. I tried to boot off of disk 2 
>which is the live file system. This disk booted and also started the 
>install script.

If 3.3 is packaged the same as 3.2, disk 1 is an i386 boot/install
disk, whilst disk 2 is an Alpha boot/install disk (as well as the
live filesystem).

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Oliver Fromme wrote:

>  > Of course the mode is inaccessible by chmod.
> 
> chmod -H   (see ``man chmod'').

	That changes the file referenced by the link, not the link itself. In
freebsd there is no way (that I know of) to change the perms on the
link, only the ownership. On solaris you can do chmod -h to change the
perms on the link. Hacking that into our chmod is pretty far down on my
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Hi,

Sorry for the late reaction, i was ill for some days.

I was testing gnu_pop3d whit the pam_unix module.

You can find gnu-pop3d at : http://www.nodomainname.net/software/gnu-pop3d.shtml
 
This is what it logs in /var/log/maillog without the libcrypt :

Sep 30 09:05:11 solomon gnu-pop3d[317]: Incoming connection opened
Sep 30 09:05:11 solomon gnu-pop3d[317]: unable to dlopen(/usr/lib/pam_unix.so)
Sep 30 09:05:11 solomon gnu-pop3d[317]: [dlerror: /usr/lib/pam_unix.so: Undefine
d symbol "crypt"]
Sep 30 09:05:11 solomon gnu-pop3d[317]: adding faulty module: /usr/lib/pam_unix.
so
Sep 30 09:05:12 solomon gnu-pop3d[317]: Socket closed

However, when i compile gnu-pop3d with -lcrypt the problem is also resolved.

I can't say wheter the pam module or the application is responsible for loading the library.

Thanks for the answers so far,


Regards,


Koos de Haan 


Op 02:00 +0200 28-09-1999, John Polstra schreef:

> In article <v03130301b414d71ff3a5@192.168.8.115>,
> Koos de Haan  <sdehaan@caiw.nl> wrote:
> > 
> > The default Makefile of pam_unix.so 'src/lib/libpam/modules/pam_unix/Makefile'
> > doesn't include the crypt library. As a result the pam module isn't working.
> > 
> > When i put add -lcrypt to the LDADD line the module workes fine.
> > 
> > Is this done on purpose or is it a bug in the makefile ?
> 
> I looks like a bug to me.  But it shouldn't show up for login, because
> the program itself loads libcrypt.  Are you using the pam_unix module
> with some other program?
> 
> John
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On 30-Sep-99 Gene Sokolov wrote:
>  The scripts can be made simpler if a [freebsd-stable] is added to the
>  beginning of Subject line of every message posted on the list.

Use the Sender: header to filter your mail instead.

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Unfortunately I have to use MS Outlook Express. It's brain damaged. It can't
parse headers beyond "from:", "to:" and "subject:". Don't tell me to switch,
I can't. The "Subject" seems to be the simplest and the most straight
forward way of sorting.

Gene Sokolov.

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> On 30-Sep-99 Gene Sokolov wrote:
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On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, Gene Sokolov wrote:
:->Unfortunately I have to use MS Outlook Express. It's brain damaged. It can't
:->parse headers beyond "from:", "to:" and "subject:". Don't tell me to switch,
:->I can't. The "Subject" seems to be the simplest and the most straight
:->forward way of sorting.

I have to wonder how you manage to track -STABLE, yet are forced to
use a brain damaged mail user agent. Adding generally useless verbiage
to the headers to help deal with a brain damaged mail agent that
doesn't run on the OS the list is about seems a wonderfull exercise in
irony.

How about creating a second mail drop to subscribe to the list? A
hotmail account, possibly? I believe that recent versions of MSOE can
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>  > What peculiar feature is it, that symlinks have modes !=0777 depending on
>  > the umask when they have been created?
> 
> Symlinks are "almost" regular files, just with a special
> meaning, so why shouldn't they have modes, too?

Simply because modes don't have any meaning in the case of symlinks.

> 
>  > Of course the mode is inaccessible by chmod.
> 
> chmod -H   (see ``man chmod'').

Yes, see ``man chmod''.

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On Thu, Sep 30, 1999 at 10:34:15AM +1200, Mike Muir wrote:
> Eliezer Rodriguez Gonzalez wrote:
> >=20
> > Hello everybody:
> >=20
> > Finally I was able to burn my own copy of 3.3-RELEASE, downloaded via f=
tp
> > from a mirror site.
> > I found out, by research and because Mr Fischer told me so, that while
> > using version 1.6.1 of cdrecord there was a problem using the internal
> > buffer, so I disabled that feature via the command option fs=3D0 and th=
en
> > everything worked fine and I was able to burn my CD-ROM with the older
> > cdrecord version.
>=20
> This also happens when using 1.8a28 under -current.. not quite sure why,
> but i'm
> guessing for the same reasons outlined in an earlier posting in this
> thread.
> (I'm going to try a29 next).

You could check for unaligned buffers in
sys/cam/cam_periph.c:cam_periph_mapmem() (around line 530 in -stable).

One (Kenneth? me?) could also make this debugging hook permanent in
conjunction with one or more sysctl knobs which switch on the check
or/and -- even better -- send a signal (SIGBUS?) to the process on
unaligned buffers. That would make it very easy to debug not only
cdrecord but *any* userland process that uses cam transport.

Any opinions?

  Bj=F6rn

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To: "Gene Sokolov" <hook@aktrad.ru>
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I might add that you could filter out by 'to:' or 'cc:' header.

I, for one, wouldn't want to have '[freebsd-stable]' in _each_ subject
line just because some people do not use fbsd on the list.. :)) 

There's got to be some filtering software on Windoze?

Ciao.

ants.

Gene Sokolov writes:
 > Unfortunately I have to use MS Outlook Express. It's brain damaged. It can't
 > parse headers beyond "from:", "to:" and "subject:". Don't tell me to switch,
 > I can't. The "Subject" seems to be the simplest and the most straight
 > forward way of sorting.
 > 
 > Gene Sokolov.
 > 
 > From: Daniel O'Connor <doconnor@gsoft.com.au>
 > > On 30-Sep-99 Gene Sokolov wrote:
 > > >  The scripts can be made simpler if a [freebsd-stable] is added to the
 > > >  beginning of Subject line of every message posted on the list.
 > >
 > > Use the Sender: header to filter your mail instead.
 > 
 > 
 > 
 > 
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In message <4.1.19990929221225.07e02a50@granite.sentex.ca>, Mike Tancsa 
writes:
> 
> I have an application where having NFS mounts is required.  Looking back
> through the recent archives, there still seem to be issues with NFS.
> However, what is unclear is if this is primarily due to particular types of
> I/O... In otherwords, if the nfs mount is Read Only, will I avoid the
> majority of problems ? Or if I use V2 ? Or V3 ?

I use NFS on my network at home and at work.  I've forced the use of V2 
mounts for about 2-3 years (since 2.2), prior to that I used the 
default that was shipped with 2.0.5 and 2.1.

At work I share files between Solaris, Tru64-UNIX, Linux, and FreeBSD.  
The only issues I've had are,

1)  FreeBSD NFS may be slower than Solaris or Tru64-UNIX NFS.  I haven't
    measured it.  This is just a "seat of the pants" impression.

2)  When sharing files from my desktop FreeBSD system, which has ipfw
    enabled, to a Tru64-UNIX system at an earthquake resistant site 
which
    is 5 hops away, Tru64-UNIX MTU discovery, which is broken, tends to
    mangle NFS packets (and Legato packets too).  Reducing the NFS 
buffer
    size to ~ 1400 fixes this.


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In MS Outlook Express all you have to do is go up to tool and say creat rule
from message when the message is open and the cc: option will open up....I
find this does the trick.





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----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Meyer <mwm@phone.net>
To: Gene Sokolov <hook@aktrad.ru>
Cc: <freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG>
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 1999 4:05 AM
Subject: Re: List maintanence question.


> On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, Gene Sokolov wrote:
> :->Unfortunately I have to use MS Outlook Express. It's brain damaged. It
can't
> :->parse headers beyond "from:", "to:" and "subject:". Don't tell me to
switch,
> :->I can't. The "Subject" seems to be the simplest and the most straight
> :->forward way of sorting.
>
> I have to wonder how you manage to track -STABLE, yet are forced to
> use a brain damaged mail user agent. Adding generally useless verbiage
> to the headers to help deal with a brain damaged mail agent that
> doesn't run on the OS the list is about seems a wonderfull exercise in
> irony.
>
> How about creating a second mail drop to subscribe to the list? A
> hotmail account, possibly? I believe that recent versions of MSOE can
> fetch mail from them. That would allow you to filter on the To: field.
>
> <mike
>
>
>
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At 07:13 AM 9/30/99 -0700, Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group wrote:
>In message <4.1.19990929221225.07e02a50@granite.sentex.ca>, Mike Tancsa 
>writes:

<comments about NFS use in a FreeBSD/ mixed network deleted>

Thanks for the response Cy.  Performance in this case is not so much an
issue. The main thing is I dont want any panics / crashes. I can live with
a little performance penalty in this case.

Thanks,

	---Mike
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From owner-freebsd-stable  Thu Sep 30  9:50:57 1999
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It's a ports question, but you can do a 'make index' in /usr/ports and
you will get an updated INDEX file.  The ports index is apparently
updated only every few weeks, and your next fetch will get a new (old)
INDEX file, but you can use your updated INDEX file in the interim, or
you can set up CVSUP to ignore INDEX and update it yourself.

- Mike Harding

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   Hello to all, 

   I'm sorry if I'm not at the right list, but this one is closest to my
   problem. I upgrade both source and port trees via cvsup for my 2.2.8 box.
   Problem is, that INDEX doesn't keep up-to-date information about packages
   in /usr/ports (even if I delete it, the one I fetch has several weeks old
   info). Are there any utils for updating INDEX of ports tree, or am I doing
   something wrong, so I don't get new version?

   With respect,
   Domas Mituzas



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From owner-freebsd-stable  Thu Sep 30 10:27:40 1999
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At 12:31 PM 9/30/99 +0400, Gene Sokolov wrote:
>Unfortunately I have to use MS Outlook Express. It's brain damaged. It can't
>parse headers beyond "from:", "to:" and "subject:". Don't tell me to switch,
>I can't. The "Subject" seems to be the simplest and the most straight
>forward way of sorting.

"Have to" use it?  That sucks, IMSBO. (IMO + "Strongly Biased" :)

Suggest Pegasus if you *really* want to be able to do custom filters.
Eudora works fine, but only allows 2 criteria.  Pretty sure Outlook only
allows one.  Try to forget Outlook, which does not do APOP and has
irritated me for years.

Daneil's suggestion on using the sender: is the best way or if there is a
"any header" check.  The former is consistant with every list.  The latter
works and should grab direct replies as well.

Or use multiple accounts.

Don't think jmb is going to change things for a M$ mail client problem.


>From: Daniel O'Connor <doconnor@gsoft.com.au>
>> On 30-Sep-99 Gene Sokolov wrote:
>> >  The scripts can be made simpler if a [freebsd-stable] is added to the
>> >  beginning of Subject line of every message posted on the list.
>>
>> Use the Sender: header to filter your mail instead.


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Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 11:40:57 -0600 (MDT)
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Bjoern Fischer wrote...
> On Thu, Sep 30, 1999 at 10:34:15AM +1200, Mike Muir wrote:
> > Eliezer Rodriguez Gonzalez wrote:
> > > 
> > > Hello everybody:
> > > 
> > > Finally I was able to burn my own copy of 3.3-RELEASE, downloaded via ftp
> > > from a mirror site.
> > > I found out, by research and because Mr Fischer told me so, that while
> > > using version 1.6.1 of cdrecord there was a problem using the internal
> > > buffer, so I disabled that feature via the command option fs=0 and then
> > > everything worked fine and I was able to burn my CD-ROM with the older
> > > cdrecord version.
> > 
> > This also happens when using 1.8a28 under -current.. not quite sure why,
> > but i'm
> > guessing for the same reasons outlined in an earlier posting in this
> > thread.
> > (I'm going to try a29 next).
> 
> You could check for unaligned buffers in
> sys/cam/cam_periph.c:cam_periph_mapmem() (around line 530 in -stable).
> 
> One (Kenneth? me?) could also make this debugging hook permanent in
> conjunction with one or more sysctl knobs which switch on the check
> or/and -- even better -- send a signal (SIGBUS?) to the process on
> unaligned buffers. That would make it very easy to debug not only
> cdrecord but *any* userland process that uses cam transport.
> 
> Any opinions?

I think it would be better for userland code authors to use the tools
available for debugging.  It's pretty easy to do something like

assert((ccb->csio.data_ptr & PAGE_MASK) == 0);

Sending non-page-aligned buffers to the passthrough driver is not
forbidden outright.  The problem is sending buffers that are close (within
a page) to the maximum size (64K) that are not page aligned.

Joerg had a problem at one point in cdrecord with non page-aligned buffers,
and he fixed it.  My guess is that he has introduced a new problem.  If you
tell him about it, I'm sure he'll fix it.  (I think he may be out of town
at the moment, so it may be a little while before he responds.)

In the mean time, you can get around the problem by changing the CAM
version of scsi_maxdma() in libscg/scsi-bsd.c to return DFLTPHYS -
PAGE_SIZE instead of DFLTPHYS.  That will prevent the problem from
occuring.

Ken
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To: Koos de Haan <sdehaan@caiw.nl>
Cc: John Polstra <jdp@polstra.com>, stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject: Re: missing lib crypt in pam_unix.so ? 
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 20:39:11 +0200
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> This is what it logs in /var/log/maillog without the libcrypt :
> 
> Sep 30 09:05:11 solomon gnu-pop3d[317]: Incoming connection opened
> Sep 30 09:05:11 solomon gnu-pop3d[317]: unable to dlopen(/usr/lib/pam_unix.so
)
> Sep 30 09:05:11 solomon gnu-pop3d[317]: [dlerror: /usr/lib/pam_unix.so: Undef
ine
> d symbol "crypt"]
> Sep 30 09:05:11 solomon gnu-pop3d[317]: adding faulty module: /usr/lib/pam_un
ix.
> so
> Sep 30 09:05:12 solomon gnu-pop3d[317]: Socket closed
> 
> However, when i compile gnu-pop3d with -lcrypt the problem is also resolved.

OK - fix going in! :-)

M
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Hello,

I just joined freebsd-stable. PLEASE excuse me if
this is a FAQ.

None of my 3.2-STABLE boxes can be updated to
3.3-STABLE until I can get crypt-md5.c for the
source tree, somehow.

During cvsup, I noticed:

Delete src/secure/lib/libcrypt/crypt-md5.c

but no corresponding Checkout event occurred to
replace it! Has this file been removed from the
RELENG_3 tree?

I've seen only one message on Deja.com about 'make
world' fails at crypt-md5.c (nonexistent) after a
successful RELENG_3 cvsup. No answers to date
(hence my assumption this is a FAQ). I grep'd the
source tree after cvsup; no mention of the file
anywhere (except libcrypt/Makefile which expects
it to exist).

Anyway, could someone please point me to the
announcement that shows how to solve this?

Thanks!


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beaupran@JSP.UMontreal.CA writes:
> I might add that you could filter out by 'to:' or 'cc:' header.
> 
> I, for one, wouldn't want to have '[freebsd-stable]' in _each_ subject
> line just because some people do not use fbsd on the list.. :)) 

Ditto. I *hate* that. Have been wondering why some lists I subscribe to 
have that junk added to the subject field. Maybe now I know why as the 
listmaster has an NT bent.

Considering the superiority of *our* choice does anybody have an 
example of how to undo such idiocy? It would help me most if the 
solution involved slocal and rules I could include in ~/.maildelivery.

> There's got to be some filtering software on Windoze?

Eudora Lite 3.06 is free to use and has very good filters. And TTBOMK is
incapable of automatically sending dual HTML and plain-text versions of
your text in MIME attachments (which is so hard to figure out how to
DISABLE in Outlook.)


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On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, Rick Yip wrote:

> Hi!
>  I have bought the official version of FreeBSD 3.2 and tried to get
> the sound to work but it doesn't.  I tried 4Front's software but that
> doesn't work either.  I get messages that I can't configure /dev/dsp:
> device is busy all of the time.  Somtimes I can't "allocate 32768 M "
> problems.  After reading a how-to on AWE (I have a SoundBlaster AWE64
> PnP) sound cards http://members.home.net/conrads/awepnp-freebsd.html,
> it still doesn't work.  Then, 4Front said I should try FreeBSD 3.3 but
> it still doesn't work.  I do get an error when I tried using awe0 at
> 0x620: device is not found when the computer boots.  I wonder if that
> is hanging the computer.
>  Also, your boot cdrom (3.3) doesn't boot.  3.2 does though.  I don't
> know if you are aware of it.  In addition, everytime I reboot, my
> master boot record gets erase to know which partition is made active.  
> I have to boot into dos and fdisk to make the mbr active.  These
> problems I didn't have with 3.2.

1) Please limit the length of your lines
2) This shouldn't have been posted to freebsd-current, which is for
(strangely). FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT. Please direct your query to
freebsd-stable@freebsd.org after posting much more debugging information
(e.g. the output of dmesg(1) at a minimum). I'm not able to help you, but
one of the guys there might.

Thanks,
Kris


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On Wed, 29 Sep 1999, Gregory Bond wrote:

> Hi.  We have two routers on our local net.  Only one is our default, of course.
> When I ping a host that is via the other route, I get 2 ICMP REDIRECTs (one for
> the specific host, one for the net) for every outgoing ping packet.
> 
> I.e. i'm getting redirects for the second ... nth packets.  I kind-of assumed
> the first redirect would update the local routing tables so that subsequent
> pings would go direct to the correct gateway.  And "netstat -r" does show a
> _host_ entry, but not a _net_ entry.  And another ping to the same host will go
> to the correct gateway, but a ping to another host on the same remote net will 
> also elicit 2 REDIRECTS per packet, and install a host route.
> 
> I am surprised by 2 elements of this behaviour:
>  - the REDIRECT doesn't affect the route chosen by the current ping process
>  - only the HOST_REDIRECT gets installed in the routing table
> 
> Is this the expected behaviour?
> 

I've encountered the same. Keeping arp entries fresh for devices that
do routing minimizes any problems it may cause. A cron job that send
a couple of packets to the routers with ping every five minutes should
help. If the box in question participated with the routers in a routing
protocol the problem should go away. If there are only a couple of
networks some static routes should also fix it.

I may be wrong but I think a redirect for a network is not in compliance
with the RFC.

-

Barrett



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As I recall, Jeffrey J. Mountin wrote:
> At 12:31 PM 9/30/99 +0400, Gene Sokolov wrote:
>> Unfortunately I have to use MS Outlook Express.  It's brain damaged.
>> It can't parse headers beyond "from:", "to:" and "subject:".  Don't
>> tell me to switch, I can't.  The "Subject" seems to be the simplest
>> and the most straight forward way of sorting.
> 
> "Have to" use it?  That sucks, IMSBO. (IMO + "Strongly Biased" :)

Well, cut the guy some slack.  In some worlds, users don't control
their desktop.  They are required to use the "officially sanctioned"
tools, and things like Microsoft SMS are used to inforce the rule.
Installation of unapproved software is grounds for termination.

So, such a person would be required to build a machine at home, and
get an account with an ISP in order to do e-mail in the FreeBSD-list
approved manner.  Just might not be an option.

On the other hand, I can't see a reason for the list to change its
methods to accomodate such poor, lost souls either.

	-crl
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> Well, cut the guy some slack.  In some worlds, users don't control
> their desktop.  They are required to use the "officially sanctioned"
> tools, and things like Microsoft SMS are used to inforce the rule.
> Installation of unapproved software is grounds for termination.

Of course, this policy can run both ways -- as "the IS Boss", I get to
make these rules.....  Nobody can install anything on the (rare)
non-UNIXish boxes that I don't "officially sanction", which is almost
always limited to 95-OSR2, Office 97, and a Win32 X server to connect to
the "useful" machines.  :)  As for the UNIXish machines, the users can put
pretty much whatever they want on them, with the understanding that if it
doesn't work, I'll get to it when I have time.  (They do NOT have root
access, so they're limited to their home directories.)

My boss (non-geek-type) keeps talking about putting a bunch of NT machines
in here -- I'm constantly telling her that "FreeBSD, DEC UNIX, and
Samba give you all the functionality you need.  Putting NT in here is a
dumb idea -- if you tell me to make it happen, I won't be able to ensure
that it (the network) keeps working..."

--mike

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From: Chad R. Larson <chad@DCFinc.com>
> Well, cut the guy some slack.  In some worlds, users don't control
> their desktop.  They are required to use the "officially sanctioned"
> tools, and things like Microsoft SMS are used to inforce the rule.
> Installation of unapproved software is grounds for termination.

Thanks for understanding. I spend a lot of time doing client support by
e-mail. Most of our clients use MSOE with all the MIME attachments & html
formatting. Plus about 90% of the clients are Russians writing in 4
different code pages. MSOE is the only one I know that handles all these
things reasonably well. It just can't parse headers. If anyone knows a
better mail client please let me know. Better do it off the list since this
thread clearly does not belong here anymore.

Gene Sokolov.







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> On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, Jeremy McMillan wrote:
> 
> > You need to read the spec for El-Torito.
> > 
> > Basically, you need a boot image written to block 0 of your raw CD-R. That
> > boot image needs to know how to access your hardware (ie. load a kernel from
> > somewhere?). Bootable CDROM supporting BIOS just looks at the first block of
> > your CDROM and uses it *just* like the boot blocks from a floppy.
> 
> This is not the most helpful response. At your urging, I read the El
> Torito spec, and what you're saying above does not appear to be true
> of the Walnut Creek 3.2 install CD I have or the ISO image for the 3.3
> install CD. What you're describing seems to be the "multiple boot
> image configuration" that's discussed in the spec. The 3.2 and 3.3 CDs
> appear to be of the "single boot image configuration" variety.

We just use mkisofs to creat the bootable images, same as everyone else.

The problem, which was resolved this evening, seems to be that mkisofs 
space-pads the copyright text in the boot catalog.  If you have no 
copyright text (like eg. the 3.2 image), it's all-0 and boots properly 
on most systems.

If you have copyright text, it's space-filled and terminated with a 
single 0 byte, and this fails.

Interestingly, the Windows NT CDROM has copyright text in the boot 
catalog that is nul-filled, and this CDROM (probably the only benchmark 
for bootable CDROMs in the industry) boots just fine, leading to the 
conjecture that someone got sloppy in their BIOS code, which has been 
widely replicated.

In effect, it's the fact that Jordan was _more_ careful cutting the 3.3 
images that lead to this problem.  Damn that quality control process.

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\\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself,  \\  msmith@freebsd.org
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> Hi,=20
>=20
> we're experiencing panics on 3.3-stable as of 21st of September,=20
> which looks alike the ones, which were happening with 3.[12] versions.=20

panic before (once per 1-2 day) was for SMP kernel, new one
is for kernel without SMP on the same nfs server, now after 7.5 day of work

# gdb -k kernel.37 vmcore.37
GNU gdb 4.18
Copyright 1998 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are
welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain condition=
s.
Type "show copying" to see the conditions.
There is absolutely no warranty for GDB.  Type "show warranty" for details.
This GDB was configured as "i386-unknown-freebsd"...
IdlePTD 2756608
initial pcb at 22a0c0
panicstr: vm_fault: fault on nofault entry, addr: ce024000
panic messages:
---
panic: vm_fault: fault on nofault entry, addr: ce024000

syncing disks... 64 44 25 7 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 giving up
(da1:ahc1:0:1:0): SYNCHRONIZE CACHE. CDB: 35 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
(da1:ahc1:0:1:0): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:20,0
(da1:ahc1:0:1:0): Invalid command operation code

dumping to dev 20401, offset 1691306
dump 512 511 510 509 508 507 506 505 504 503 502 501 500 499 498 497 496 49=
5 494 493 492 491 490 489 488 487 486 485 484 483 482 481 480 479 478 477 4=
76 475 474 473 472 471 470 469 468 467 466 465 464 463 462 461 460 459 458 =
457 456 455 454 453 452 451 4=
50 449 448 447 446 445 444 443 442 441 440 439 438 437 436 435 434 433 432 =
431 430 429 428 427 426 425 424 423 422 421 420 419 418 417 416 415 414 413=
 412 411 410 409 408 407 406 405 404 403 402 401 400 399 398 397 396 395 39=
4 393 392 391 390 389 388 387=
 386 385 384 383 382 381 380 379 378 377 376 375 374 373 372 371 370 369 36=
8 367 366 365 364 363 362 361 360 359 358 357 356 355 354 353 352 351 350 3=
49 348 347 346 345 344 343 342 341 340 339 338 337 336 335 334 333 332 331 =
330 329 328 327 326 325 324 3=
23 322 321 320 319 318 317 316 315 314 313 312 311 310 309 308 307 306 305 =
304 303 302 301 300 299 298 297 296 295 294 293 292 291 290 289 288 287 286=
 285 284 283 282 281 280 279 278 277 276 275 274 273 272 271 270 269 268 26=
7 266 265 264 263 262 261 260=
 259 258 257 256 255 254 253 252 251 250 249 248 247 246 245 244 243 242 24=
1 240 239 238 237 236 235 234 233 232 231 230 229 228 227 226 225 224 223 2=
22 221 220 219 218 217 216 215 214 213 212 211 210 209 208 207 206 205 204 =
203 202 201 200 199 198 197 1=
96 195 194 193 192 191 190 189 188 187 186 185 184 183 182 181 180 179 178 =
177 176 175 174 173 172 171 170 169 168 167 166 165 164 163 162 161 160 159=
 158 157 156 155 154 153 152 151 150 149 148 147 146 145 144 143 142 141 14=
0 139 138 137 136 135 134 133=
 132 131 130 129 128 127 126 125 124 123 122 121 120 119 118 117 116 115 11=
4 113 112 111 110 109 108 107 106 105 104 103 102 101 100 99 98 97 96 95 94=
 93 92 91 90 89 88 87 86 85 84 83 82 81 80 79 78 77 76 75 74 73 72 71 70 69=
 68 67 66 65 64 63 62 61 60 5=
9 58 57 56 55 54 53 52 51 50 49 48 47 46 45 44 43 42 41 40 39 38 37 36 35 3=
4 33 32 31 30 29 28 27 26 25 24 23 22 21 20 19 18 17 16 15 14 13 12 11 10 9=
 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1
---
#0  boot (howto=3D256) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:285
285                     dumppcb.pcb_cr3 =3D rcr3();
(kgdb) backtrace
#0  boot (howto=3D256) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:285
#1  0xc013d485 in panic (
    fmt=3D0xc02089e6 "vm_fault: fault on nofault entry, addr: %lx")
    at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:446
#2  0xc01c9792 in vm_fault (map=3D0xc0240d2c, vaddr=3D3456253952,
    fault_type=3D1 '\001', fault_flags=3D0) at ../../vm/vm_fault.c:232
#3  0xc01ee0c8 in trap_pfault (frame=3D0xd2dd49dc, usermode=3D0, eva=3D3456=
256104)
    at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:824
#4  0xc01edd7a in trap (frame=3D{tf_es =3D 16, tf_ds =3D -1022492656,
      tf_edi =3D 14436, tf_esi =3D -1022433536, tf_ebp =3D -757249380,
      tf_isp =3D -757249532, tf_ebx =3D -838711196, tf_edx =3D -847782512,
      tf_ecx =3D 8191, tf_eax =3D 39012, tf_trapno =3D 12, tf_err =3D 0,
      tf_eip =3D -1071897493, tf_cs =3D 8, tf_eflags =3D 66178, tf_esp =3D =
-755096640,
      tf_ss =3D -757248584}) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:437
#5  0xc01c246b in ufs_lookup (ap=3D0xd2dd4ad8) at ../../ufs/ufs/ufs_lookup.=
c:238
#6  0xc01c727d in ufs_vnoperate (ap=3D0xd2dd4ad8)
    at ../../ufs/ufs/ufs_vnops.c:2299
#7  0xc015c4a4 in vfs_cache_lookup (ap=3D0xd2dd4b34) at vnode_if.h:55
#8  0xc01c727d in ufs_vnoperate (ap=3D0xd2dd4b34)
    at ../../ufs/ufs/ufs_vnops.c:2299
#9  0xc015e975 in lookup (ndp=3D0xd2dd4d94) at vnode_if.h:31
#10 0xc019e639 in nfs_namei (ndp=3D0xd2dd4d94, fhp=3D0xd2dd4d0c, len=3D2,
    slp=3D0xc2fa6e00, nam=3D0xc3d1b060, mdp=3D0xd2dd4c48, dposp=3D0xd2dd4c4=
4,
---Type <return> to continue, or q <return> to quit---
    retdirp=3D0xd2dd4c2c, p=3D0xd2d7af40, kerbflag=3D0, pubflag=3D0)
    at ../../nfs/nfs_subs.c:1662
#11 0xc0187277 in nfsrv_lookup (nfsd=3D0xc3608d00, slp=3D0xc2fa6e00,
    procp=3D0xd2d7af40, mrq=3D0xd2dd4e34) at ../../nfs/nfs_serv.c:476
#12 0xc01a0106 in nfssvc_nfsd (nsd=3D0xd2dd4e94, argp=3D0x8071f04 "", p=3D0=
xd2d7af40)
    at ../../nfs/nfs_syscalls.c:656
#13 0xc019fa21 in nfssvc (p=3D0xd2d7af40, uap=3D0xd2dd4f94)
    at ../../nfs/nfs_syscalls.c:342
#14 0xc01ee6ab in syscall (frame=3D{tf_es =3D 39, tf_ds =3D 39, tf_edi =3D =
16,
      tf_esi =3D 0, tf_ebp =3D -1077944892, tf_isp =3D -757248028, tf_ebx =
=3D 0,
      tf_edx =3D -1077945288, tf_ecx =3D 0, tf_eax =3D 155, tf_trapno =3D 1=
2,
      tf_err =3D 2, tf_eip =3D 134518972, tf_cs =3D 31, tf_eflags =3D 642,
      tf_esp =3D -1077945280, tf_ss =3D 39}) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:1100
#15 0xc01e4a0c in Xint0x80_syscall ()
#16 0x80480e9 in ?? ()
(kgdb)

>=20
>=20
> panicstr: vm_fault: fault on nofault entry, addr: cdf6f000
> panic messages:
> ---
> panic: vm_fault: fault on nofault entry, addr: cdf6f000
> mp_lock =3D 01000002; cpuid =3D 1; lapic.id =3D 00000000
> boot() called on cpu#1
>=20
> syncing disks... 31 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 giving up
>=20
> dumping to dev 20401, offset 1691306
> dump 512 ...
> ---
> #0  boot (howto=3D256) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:285
> 285                     dumppcb.pcb_cr3 =3D rcr3();
> (kgdb) where
> #0  boot (howto=3D256) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:285
> #1  0xc013eee5 in panic (
>     fmt=3D0xc0212416 "vm_fault: fault on nofault entry, addr: %lx")
>     at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:446
> #2  0xc01cb9da in vm_fault (map=3D0xc024b65c, vaddr=3D3455512576,
>     fault_type=3D1 '\001', fault_flags=3D0) at ../../vm/vm_fault.c:232
> #3  0xc01f7178 in trap_pfault (frame=3D0xd2dd79dc, usermode=3D0, eva=3D34=
55515023)
>     at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:824
> #4  0xc01f6e2a in trap (frame=3D{tf_es =3D 16, tf_ds =3D -1020919792,
>       tf_edi =3D 39307, tf_esi =3D -1020881664, tf_ebp =3D -757237092,
>       tf_isp =3D -757237244, tf_ebx =3D -839452277, tf_edx =3D -847851736,
>       tf_ecx =3D 8191, tf_eax =3D 227723, tf_trapno =3D 12, tf_err =3D 0,
>       tf_eip =3D -1071888861, tf_cs =3D 8, tf_eflags =3D 66182, tf_esp =
=3D -752403456,
>       tf_ss =3D -757236296}) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:437
> #5  0xc01c4623 in ufs_lookup (ap=3D0xd2dd7ad8) at ../../ufs/ufs/ufs_looku=
p.c:238
> #6  0xc01c94d1 in ufs_vnoperate (ap=3D0xd2dd7ad8)
>     at ../../ufs/ufs/ufs_vnops.c:2299
> #7  0xc015dfd0 in vfs_cache_lookup (ap=3D0xd2dd7b34) at vnode_if.h:55
> #8  0xc01c94d1 in ufs_vnoperate (ap=3D0xd2dd7b34)
>     at ../../ufs/ufs/ufs_vnops.c:2299
> #9  0xc0160475 in lookup (ndp=3D0xd2dd7d94) at vnode_if.h:31
> #10 0xc01a05b1 in nfs_namei (ndp=3D0xd2dd7d94, fhp=3D0xd2dd7d0c, len=3D2,
>     slp=3D0xc2fa5e00, nam=3D0xc3c1ae30, mdp=3D0xd2dd7c48, dposp=3D0xd2dd7=
c44,
>     retdirp=3D0xd2dd7c2c, p=3D0xd2d7af40, kerbflag=3D0, pubflag=3D0)
>     at ../../nfs/nfs_subs.c:1662
> #11 0xc018926b in nfsrv_lookup (nfsd=3D0xc35dbb00, slp=3D0xc2fa5e00,
>     procp=3D0xd2d7af40, mrq=3D0xd2dd7e34) at ../../nfs/nfs_serv.c:476
> #12 0xc01a205a in nfssvc_nfsd (nsd=3D0xd2dd7e94, argp=3D0x8071f04cannot r=
ead proc at 0
> )
>     at ../../nfs/nfs_syscalls.c:656
> #13 0xc01a1975 in nfssvc (p=3D0xd2d7af40, uap=3D0xd2dd7f94)
>     at ../../nfs/nfs_syscalls.c:342
> #14 0xc01f77cb in syscall (frame=3D{tf_es =3D 39, tf_ds =3D 39, tf_edi =
=3D 16,
>       tf_esi =3D 0, tf_ebp =3D -1077944892, tf_isp =3D -757235740, tf_ebx=
 =3D 0,
>       tf_edx =3D -1077945288, tf_ecx =3D 0, tf_eax =3D 155, tf_trapno =3D=
 12,
>       tf_err =3D 2, tf_eip =3D 134518972, tf_cs =3D 31, tf_eflags =3D 642,
>       tf_esp =3D -1077945280, tf_ss =3D 39}) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:11=
00
> #15 0xc01e6e3c in Xint0x80_syscall ()
> cannot read proc at 0
> --=20
> -mishania
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[Original thread can be found at the end]

So,

Here's what I've got so far:

--- etc/make.conf.orig  Mon Sep 20 20:59:31 1999
+++ etc/make.conf       Mon Sep 20 21:00:11 1999
@@ -28,6 +28,9 @@
 # To avoid building sendmail
 #NO_SENDMAIL=  true
 #
+# To avoid building BIND
+#NO_BIND=      true
+#
 # To have 'obj' symlinks created in your source directory
 #       (they aren't needed/necessary)
 #OBJLINK=      yes


--- libexec/Makefile.orig       Mon Sep 20 21:00:27 1999
+++ libexec/Makefile    Mon Sep 20 23:18:14 1999
@@ -3,12 +3,16 @@
 
 # Present but disabled: kpasswdd
 SUBDIR=        atrun bootpd comsat fingerd ftpd getNAME getty \
-       makekey mknetid named-xfer rbootd revnetgroup rexecd \
+       makekey mknetid rbootd revnetgroup rexecd \
        rlogind rpc.rquotad rpc.rstatd rpc.rusersd rpc.rwalld \
        rpc.sprayd rshd talkd tftpd uucpd xtend ypxfr
 
 .if !defined(NO_SENDMAIL)
 SUBDIR+=mail.local smrsh
+.endif
+
+.if !defined(NO_NAMED)
+SUBDIR+=named-xfer
 .endif
 
 .if ${OBJFORMAT} == aout


--- usr.sbin/Makefile.orig      Mon Sep 20 21:09:32 1999
+++ usr.sbin/Makefile   Tue Sep 21 08:57:55 1999
@@ -44,13 +44,8 @@
        mrouted \
        mtest \
        mtree \
-       named \
-       named.reload \
-       named.restart \
-       ndc \
        newsyslog \
        nslookup \
-       nsupdate \
        pccard \
        pciconf \
        periodic \
@@ -110,6 +105,14 @@
        makemap \
        praliases \
        sendmail
+.endif
+
+.if !defined(NO_BIND)
+SUBDIR+=named \
+       named.reload \
+       named.restart \
+       ndc \
+       nsupdate \
 .endif


This is just a start, but you get the idea.

Important consideration:  We still want the resolver of course, and ns
tools.  Really what we don't want is named.  So should this be NO_NAMED
instead?

On the other hand, anyone making use of this option would only do so
because they've installed bind8 (Port or by hand.)  They wouldn't need
libs installed by the system, since they'll have them already.  In this
case, NO_BIND is better.

This brings up another issue:  PATHs.  The whole reason I thought this
mess up was I didn't want two versions of every bind tool.  (Weird, and
while looking for an example, I've found that the system nslookup is in
/usr/sbin, and the port version is in /usr/local/bin.)  There are features
in the latest release that I want, and I don't want to rearrange my PATH
to look in /usr/local/* first.

And finally, would this require the cooperation of the bind8 Port
Maintainer?  (eg, install local named.re[start|load]'s with correct
paths to ndc and such.)

Any chance that something like this might be possible?

-------8<--------

Jeremy Shaffner wrote,
> On Wed, 29 Sep 1999, Matthew D. Fuller wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Sep 29, 1999 at 12:18:24PM -0400, a little birdie told me
> > that Jason J. Horton remarked
> > > Is there any way to keep a make world from building named?
> > > I see switches in /etc/make.conf to stop building of sendmail
> > > and perl, but not named. Every time I make world, I have to
recompile
> > > my specially built named, it's starting to be annoying.
> > 
> > 2 choices.
> > 1) Edit /usr/src/usr.sbin/Makefile and take out 'named'.
> > 2) Install your specially built named under /usr/local where it should
> > be, since that'll eliminate the whole problem set.
> 
> This was something I've thought about myself.  Who else thinks a NO_BIND
> option (like NO_SENDMAIL) might be good in /etc/make.conf (with
necessary
> .if's in /usr/src/*/Makefiles)? 


I was thinking about this too! In my case, I made a hack to dump(8),
but I really doubt there is the call to make a NO_DUMP switch.

What I am doing is building a tree of customized utilities under
/usr/local/src; one that mirrors the structure of /usr/src. Right now,
I just go in before a buildworld and,

# cd /usr/src/sbin
# mv dump dump.dist
# ln -s /usr/local/src/sbin/dump .

And the buildworld makes my custom dump!

Now, if I had more things like that, I could easily (prolly) script
such a procedure or even design a /usr/local/src/Makefile to do all
that for me.

And for those who just don't want something built, they can put a "null"
entry in the /usr/local/src tree.

It seems like this might actually be something useful to a lot of
people now that a few others have asked. It would not be too difficult
to make the generic buildworld use the /usr/local/src tree in this way
automatically. I don't see what problems it could cause either. If you
didn't have a /usr/local/src, buildworld would be exactly like it is
now.

Just an idea... that I now wonder if someone may have proposed before?
(And for some reason was not added.)

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At 08:54 PM 9/30/99 -0700, Chad R. Larson wrote:
>Well, cut the guy some slack.  In some worlds, users don't control
>their desktop.  They are required to use the "officially sanctioned"
>tools, and things like Microsoft SMS are used to inforce the rule.
>Installation of unapproved software is grounds for termination.

Wasn't being harsh with him, only his MUA and Bill. ;)

If a shop will not either let me bring in an old system or run my personal
software...

>So, such a person would be required to build a machine at home, and
>get an account with an ISP in order to do e-mail in the FreeBSD-list
>approved manner.  Just might not be an option.

Certainly.  What I've done in the past isn't even to install the software.
Eudora resides on my version of briefcase, which is a hard drive in a
carrier and absolves them of licensing problems.  Not fond of running 2
mail agents, but it works.

Should that not even be allowed then they either need to buy some more
software or find someone else, since I will not be able to do my job.

Course Gene may not be in that position, so I really do feel for him then,
but there are places that offer free mail.  Another fact of the matter is
that personal mail should *not* come into a business account.  Also when it
does so it allows them to freely look at your mail, since it becomes their
property under the Electronic Privacy Act.

Call me an SOB (or spoiled) when comes to some things, but if I had
problems with this much, then doing my job isn't going to exactly be a
pleasure.  Dread the day if/when I have to deal with a firewall that isn't
in my control.

And yes, I do my best to accomodate those with similiar requests.  With
that I'll step off my soapbox and suggest that Gene either work something
out or deal with the listmail asis or from home if possible presuming that
this is a "work related" problem.

>On the other hand, I can't see a reason for the list to change its
>methods to accomodate such poor, lost souls either.

Very agreed.

Oh, and kudos to jmb and others that have worked to reduce the junk on the
lists.  Jon may recall my bitching about being able to list subscribers
many moons back.  Rather put off with another list manager that isn't even
listening to subscriber complaints, so am just a bit hot at the moment.

Back to the usual -stable discussion...


Jeff Mountin - jeff@mountin.net
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At 02:43 AM 10/1/99 -0500, Jeremy Shaffner wrote:
--snip--
>On the other hand, anyone making use of this option would only do so
>because they've installed bind8 (Port or by hand.)  They wouldn't need
>libs installed by the system, since they'll have them already.  In this
>case, NO_BIND is better.

Good idea since this comes up from time to time.  Along with UUCP, which
only makes sense with the sendmail knob.

>This brings up another issue:  PATHs.  The whole reason I thought this
>mess up was I didn't want two versions of every bind tool.  (Weird, and
>while looking for an example, I've found that the system nslookup is in
>/usr/sbin, and the port version is in /usr/local/bin.)  There are features
>in the latest release that I want, and I don't want to rearrange my PATH
>to look in /usr/local/* first.

Don't think the Wraith would go for this and is what $PREFIX is for.
Course a NOBIND option would prevent it from being clobbered.  Considering
that you don't *need* to rebuild the ports all the time.

>And finally, would this require the cooperation of the bind8 Port
>Maintainer?  (eg, install local named.re[start|load]'s with correct
>paths to ndc and such.)

No need.  Customize the Makefile.


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On 01-Oct-99 Jeremy Shaffner wrote:
> 
> [Original thread can be found at the end]
> 
> So,
> 
> Here's what I've got so far:
> 
> --- etc/make.conf.orig  Mon Sep 20 20:59:31 1999
> +++ etc/make.conf       Mon Sep 20 21:00:11 1999
> @@ -28,6 +28,9 @@
>  # To avoid building sendmail
>  #NO_SENDMAIL=  true
>  #
> +# To avoid building BIND
> +#NO_BIND=      true
> +#
>  # To have 'obj' symlinks created in your source directory
>  #       (they aren't needed/necessary)
>  #OBJLINK=      yes
> 
> 
> --- libexec/Makefile.orig       Mon Sep 20 21:00:27 1999
> +++ libexec/Makefile    Mon Sep 20 23:18:14 1999
> @@ -3,12 +3,16 @@
>  
>  # Present but disabled: kpasswdd
>  SUBDIR=        atrun bootpd comsat fingerd ftpd getNAME getty \
> -       makekey mknetid named-xfer rbootd revnetgroup rexecd \
> +       makekey mknetid rbootd revnetgroup rexecd \
>         rlogind rpc.rquotad rpc.rstatd rpc.rusersd rpc.rwalld \
>         rpc.sprayd rshd talkd tftpd uucpd xtend ypxfr
>  
>  .if !defined(NO_SENDMAIL)
>  SUBDIR+=mail.local smrsh
> +.endif
> +
> +.if !defined(NO_NAMED)
                ^^^^^^^^  -> shouldn't this be NO_BIND?
> +SUBDIR+=named-xfer
>  .endif
>  
>  .if ${OBJFORMAT} == aout

---

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Are you using the stable-supfile from the examples?

Near the bottom, you'll find a commented-out entry:

#src-secure

Uncomment.  Rerun cvsup. Life will be good.

==ml

> Hello,
> 
> I just joined freebsd-stable. PLEASE excuse me if
> this is a FAQ.
> 
> None of my 3.2-STABLE boxes can be updated to
> 3.3-STABLE until I can get crypt-md5.c for the
> source tree, somehow.
> 
> During cvsup, I noticed:
> 
> Delete src/secure/lib/libcrypt/crypt-md5.c
> 
> but no corresponding Checkout event occurred to
> replace it! Has this file been removed from the
> RELENG_3 tree?
> 
> I've seen only one message on Deja.com about 'make
> world' fails at crypt-md5.c (nonexistent) after a
> successful RELENG_3 cvsup. No answers to date
> (hence my assumption this is a FAQ). I grep'd the
> source tree after cvsup; no mention of the file
> anywhere (except libcrypt/Makefile which expects
> it to exist).
> 
> Anyway, could someone please point me to the
> announcement that shows how to solve this?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> 
> John Hermes              jhermes@infoglobe.com
> Infoglobe, Inc.            (937) 225-9999 x317
> 
> 
> 
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Ruslan Ermilov <ru@ucb.crimea.ua> writes:
> 4.0-CURRENT has net.inet.icmp.log_redirect and net.inet.icmp.drop_redirect,
> for respectively logging and dropping ICMP REDIRECT packets (`off' by default).

Patches which add these to 3.3 are available on my freefall page.

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Hello,

what is the last word on how to write the full 3.3-Rel on a single CD
(is it necessary to use a 80-minute CD ? - I've tried with a normal
74-min CD and the latest CD-RECORD18a29 under 3.3-Stable, and the
resulting CD is not readable)

	TfH


Mike Smith wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, Jeremy McMillan wrote:
> >
> > > You need to read the spec for El-Torito.
> > >
> > > Basically, you need a boot image written to block 0 of your raw CD-R. That
> > > boot image needs to know how to access your hardware (ie. load a kernel from
> > > somewhere?). Bootable CDROM supporting BIOS just looks at the first block of
> > > your CDROM and uses it *just* like the boot blocks from a floppy.
> >
> > This is not the most helpful response. At your urging, I read the El
> > Torito spec, and what you're saying above does not appear to be true
> > of the Walnut Creek 3.2 install CD I have or the ISO image for the 3.3
> > install CD. What you're describing seems to be the "multiple boot
> > image configuration" that's discussed in the spec. The 3.2 and 3.3 CDs
> > appear to be of the "single boot image configuration" variety.
> 
> We just use mkisofs to creat the bootable images, same as everyone else.
> 
> The problem, which was resolved this evening, seems to be that mkisofs
> space-pads the copyright text in the boot catalog.  If you have no
> copyright text (like eg. the 3.2 image), it's all-0 and boots properly
> on most systems.
> 
> If you have copyright text, it's space-filled and terminated with a
> single 0 byte, and this fails.
> 
> Interestingly, the Windows NT CDROM has copyright text in the boot
> catalog that is nul-filled, and this CDROM (probably the only benchmark
> for bootable CDROMs in the industry) boots just fine, leading to the
> conjecture that someone got sloppy in their BIOS code, which has been
> widely replicated.
> 
> In effect, it's the fact that Jordan was _more_ careful cutting the 3.3
> images that lead to this problem.  Damn that quality control process.
> 
> --
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I'm using 3.3-RELEASE.  And, I've got one CD that I can put
in the drive.

When I do so (if it's the first CD used since booting), I
get the following message:


Oct  1 09:31:02 lakes su: rivers to root on /dev/ttyp0
Oct  1 09:31:08 lakes /kernel: cd0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 4 lun 0
Oct  1 09:31:08 lakes /kernel: cd0: <HP CD-Writer 6020 1.07> Removable CD-ROM SC
SI-2 device 
Oct  1 09:31:08 lakes /kernel: cd0: 3.300MB/s transfers  
Oct  1 09:31:08 lakes /kernel: cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT REA
DY, Vendor Specific ASC


The mount command will not complete.   The CD drive is locked up, as it
believes the CD-ROM is in-use.

If you cntrl-C to interrupt the mount command, you do get a prompt;
but you can't umount the CD (it didn't successfully mount) to clear
up the in-use bit...   So, you can't get the CD-ROM out of the drive.

The only option is to reboot the machine.


What's odd about this - is I can use just about any other CD-ROM,
it just so happens this one particular one (the clip-art CD from WordPerfect)
does this.   I don't seem to be able to find another CD-ROM that
causes the problem.

As you can see - this is an HP 6020i.   I'm also using an aha2940uw.

It's possible this CD has problems (but it works fine in other machines.)

It's possible that an HP 6020 has problems that this CD "tickles" - but,
that should not "lock up" the driver.


So, my issue is this - how do you clear a "partial mount" without
rebooting?


	- Dave Rivers -



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On Fri, 1 Oct 1999, John Baldwin wrote:

> 
> On 01-Oct-99 Jeremy Shaffner wrote:
> > +.endif
> > +
> > +.if !defined(NO_NAMED)
>                 ^^^^^^^^  -> shouldn't this be NO_BIND?

Indeed.  I have been playing with both options and included the
wrong diff.  Sorry.  


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On Fri, 1 Oct 1999, Thierry Herbelot wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> what is the last word on how to write the full 3.3-Rel on a single CD
> (is it necessary to use a 80-minute CD ? - I've tried with a normal
> 74-min CD and the latest CD-RECORD18a29 under 3.3-Stable, and the
> resulting CD is not readable)
> 
> 	TfH

My own burning was made with cdrecord-1.6.1 on FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE and
using a Maxell CD-R74, 74 min and I have a fine working copy of my own.



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:> Hi, 
:> 
:> we're experiencing panics on 3.3-stable as of 21st of September, 
:> which looks alike the ones, which were happening with 3.[12] versions. 
:
:panic before (once per 1-2 day) was for SMP kernel, new one
:is for kernel without SMP on the same nfs server, now after 7.5 day of work

    This looks like a very solvable crash, and you have a nice debugable
    dump.

    I suspect the problem may be an out-of-bounds or odd entryoffsetinblock
    value in frame 5.  Please do the following from gdb:

	frame 5
	print *bp
	print *dp
	print ep
	print entryoffsetinblock

    And it may be better to take this off the list and into private email.
    If I can't figure it out from that I may need access to the dump and
    debug kernel binary.

					-Matt
					Matthew Dillon 
					<dillon@backplane.com>

:#4  0xc01edd7a in trap (frame={tf_es = 16, tf_ds = -1022492656,
:      tf_edi = 14436, tf_esi = -1022433536, tf_ebp = -757249380,
:      tf_isp = -757249532, tf_ebx = -838711196, tf_edx = -847782512,
:      tf_ecx = 8191, tf_eax = 39012, tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = 0,
:      tf_eip = -1071897493, tf_cs = 8, tf_eflags = 66178, tf_esp = -755096640,
:      tf_ss = -757248584}) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:437
:#5  0xc01c246b in ufs_lookup (ap=0xd2dd4ad8) at ../../ufs/ufs/ufs_lookup.c:238
:#6  0xc01c727d in ufs_vnoperate (ap=0xd2dd4ad8)
:    at ../../ufs/ufs/ufs_vnops.c:2299
:#7  0xc015c4a4 in vfs_cache_lookup (ap=0xd2dd4b34) at vnode_if.h:55
:#8  0xc01c727d in ufs_vnoperate (ap=0xd2dd4b34)
:    at ../../ufs/ufs/ufs_vnops.c:2299
:#9  0xc015e975 in lookup (ndp=0xd2dd4d94) at vnode_if.h:31
:#10 0xc019e639 in nfs_namei (ndp=0xd2dd4d94, fhp=0xd2dd4d0c, len=2,
:    slp=0xc2fa6e00, nam=0xc3d1b060, mdp=0xd2dd4c48, dposp=0xd2dd4c44,
:---Type <return> to continue, or q <return> to quit---
:    retdirp=0xd2dd4c2c, p=0xd2d7af40, kerbflag=0, pubflag=0)
:    at ../../nfs/nfs_subs.c:1662
:#11 0xc0187277 in nfsrv_lookup (nfsd=0xc3608d00, slp=0xc2fa6e00,
:    procp=0xd2d7af40, mrq=0xd2dd4e34) at ../../nfs/nfs_serv.c:476
:#12 0xc01a0106 in nfssvc_nfsd (nsd=0xd2dd4e94, argp=0x8071f04 "", p=0xd2d7af40)
:    at ../../nfs/nfs_syscalls.c:656
:#13 0xc019fa21 in nfssvc (p=0xd2d7af40, uap=0xd2dd4f94)
:    at ../../nfs/nfs_syscalls.c:342



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Anyone know of any problems with it?  One of my colleages recently moved
from Windows -> FreeBSD (with not too much urging), but ever since the
move, he has to 'ifconfig rl0 down; ifconfig rl0 up' at least once a day,
which he's finding quite annoying :(

I've been making sure that I keep his box up to reasonably current -STABLE
via cvsup, but nothing appears to help...

Ideas:?


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FreeBSD my.computer.com 3.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE #0: Tue May 18
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I just got a kernel panic while telnetted into my machine.  I didn't have
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Now that distfiles are on disk4 in /cdrom/distfiles instead of
/cdrom/ports/distfiles, the bsd.port.mk can't fetch them if disk4 is
mounted.

--- Mk/bsd.port.mk.orig Thu Sep 30 20:05:00 1999
+++ Mk/bsd.port.mk      Thu Sep 30 20:06:20 1999
@@ -1007,9 +1007,9 @@
 # Search CDROM first if mounted, symlink instead of copy if
 # FETCH_SYMLINK_DISTFILES is set
 CD_MOUNTPT?=   /cdrom
-.if exists(${CD_MOUNTPT}/ports/distfiles)
-MASTER_SITES:= file:${CD_MOUNTPT}/ports/distfiles/${DIST_SUBDIR}/
${MASTER_SITES}
-PATCH_SITES:=  file:${CD_MOUNTPT}/ports/distfiles/${DIST_SUBDIR}/
${PATCH_SITES}
+.if exists(${CD_MOUNTPT}/distfiles)
+MASTER_SITES:= file:${CD_MOUNTPT}/distfiles/${DIST_SUBDIR}/
${MASTER_SITES}
+PATCH_SITES:=  file:${CD_MOUNTPT}/distfiles/${DIST_SUBDIR}/
${PATCH_SITES}
 .if defined(FETCH_SYMLINK_DISTFILES)
 FETCH_BEFORE_ARGS+=    -l
 .endif



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On Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 03:03:33PM -0300, The Hermit Hacker wrote:
> 
> Anyone know of any problems with it?  One of my colleages recently moved
> from Windows -> FreeBSD (with not too much urging), but ever since the
> move, he has to 'ifconfig rl0 down; ifconfig rl0 up' at least once a day,
> which he's finding quite annoying :(
> 
I had a similar problem under FreeBSD 2.2-STABLE using the
rl-driver. The card has been working without problems now since I
installed installed rev. 1.10 of if_rl.c from somewhere at
  http://www.freebsd.org/~wpaul/

I can't say if the driver on Bill Paul's page will work as is
under -STABLE, but you could give it a try.

bye,
  Harold

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*sigh* and SMC used to mean something in a card :(

ah well, replaced two of them with 3com this afternoon, and everything
apears to be running well ... thanks...

On Fri, 1 Oct 1999, Mike Fisher wrote:

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> On Fri, 1 Oct 1999, The Hermit Hacker wrote:
> 
> > Anyone know of any problems with it?  One of my colleages recently moved
> > from Windows -> FreeBSD (with not too much urging), but ever since the
> > move, he has to 'ifconfig rl0 down; ifconfig rl0 up' at least once a day,
> > which he's finding quite annoying :(
> 
> > Ideas:?
> 
> Mine works fine.  However, the comments in the if_rl.c file are pretty 
> disparaging:
> 
>  * The RealTek 8139 PCI NIC redefines the meaning of 'low end.' This is
>  * probably the worst PCI ethernet controller ever made, with the possible
>  * exception of the FEAST chip made by SMC. The 8139 supports bus-master
>  * DMA, but it has a terrible interface that nullifies any performance
>  * gains that bus-master DMA usually offers.
> 
> Might want to suggest that he get a new NIC.
> 
> - -- 
> Mike
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[ On Friday, October 1, Jeremy Shaffner wrote: ]
> 
> Now that distfiles are on disk4 in /cdrom/distfiles instead of
> /cdrom/ports/distfiles, the bsd.port.mk can't fetch them if disk4 is
> mounted.
> 

I think your mailer wrapped lines. Try this:


--- bsd.port.mk.orig    Fri Oct  1 13:24:05 1999
+++ bsd.port.mk Fri Oct  1 13:23:51 1999
@@ -1007,9 +1007,9 @@
 # Search CDROM first if mounted, symlink instead of copy if
 # FETCH_SYMLINK_DISTFILES is set
 CD_MOUNTPT?=   /cdrom
-.if exists(${CD_MOUNTPT}/ports/distfiles)
-MASTER_SITES:= file:${CD_MOUNTPT}/ports/distfiles/${DIST_SUBDIR}/ ${MASTER_SITES}
-PATCH_SITES:=  file:${CD_MOUNTPT}/ports/distfiles/${DIST_SUBDIR}/ ${PATCH_SITES}
+.if exists(${CD_MOUNTPT}/distfiles)
+MASTER_SITES:= file:${CD_MOUNTPT}/distfiles/${DIST_SUBDIR}/ ${MASTER_SITES}
+PATCH_SITES:=  file:${CD_MOUNTPT}/distfiles/${DIST_SUBDIR}/ ${PATCH_SITES}
 .if defined(FETCH_SYMLINK_DISTFILES)
 FETCH_BEFORE_ARGS+=    -l
 .endif


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Bad cut-n-paste.  Thanks.


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On Fri, 1 Oct 1999, John Reynolds~ wrote:

> 
> [ On Friday, October 1, Jeremy Shaffner wrote: ]
> > 
> > Now that distfiles are on disk4 in /cdrom/distfiles instead of
> > /cdrom/ports/distfiles, the bsd.port.mk can't fetch them if disk4 is
> > mounted.
> > 
> 
> I think your mailer wrapped lines. Try this:
> 
> 
> --- bsd.port.mk.orig    Fri Oct  1 13:24:05 1999
> +++ bsd.port.mk Fri Oct  1 13:23:51 1999
> @@ -1007,9 +1007,9 @@
>  # Search CDROM first if mounted, symlink instead of copy if
>  # FETCH_SYMLINK_DISTFILES is set
>  CD_MOUNTPT?=   /cdrom
> -.if exists(${CD_MOUNTPT}/ports/distfiles)
> -MASTER_SITES:= file:${CD_MOUNTPT}/ports/distfiles/${DIST_SUBDIR}/ ${MASTER_SITES}
> -PATCH_SITES:=  file:${CD_MOUNTPT}/ports/distfiles/${DIST_SUBDIR}/ ${PATCH_SITES}
> +.if exists(${CD_MOUNTPT}/distfiles)
> +MASTER_SITES:= file:${CD_MOUNTPT}/distfiles/${DIST_SUBDIR}/ ${MASTER_SITES}
> +PATCH_SITES:=  file:${CD_MOUNTPT}/distfiles/${DIST_SUBDIR}/ ${PATCH_SITES}
>  .if defined(FETCH_SYMLINK_DISTFILES)
>  FETCH_BEFORE_ARGS+=    -l
>  .endif
> 
> 
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On 1999-09-28 11:19 +1000, Lachlan O'Dea <lodea@vet.com.au> wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 28, 1999 at 12:24:51AM +0000, Tim Liddelow wrote:
> I don't know the cause, but I had the same problem. Another problem I
> ran into earlier is that kdm doesn't work (at least not when installed
> from the package). For this reason, I downloaded the kdebase source, ran
> configure with --enable-pam, and then rebuit kdm and kscreensaver. This
> did the trick. I've been trying to get around to submitting a PR on
> this.
> 
> If you want to try this route, let me know and I'll send you my
> /etc/pam.conf which has the PAM entries you'll need.
> 
> This was probably one for -ports...?

I'll look into this. The screen-savers are not installed SUID
because of changes in a script. I had fixed this in 1.1.1, but
the old fix did not apply and I forgot to test, whether a new
one was required (sorry). The screen-savers have to run as root,
since they can't check the users password, else. I do not like 
to have so many additional SUID root programs ...

Regarding PAM support: I'm very interested in your /etc/pam.conf.

I'll not be able to work on this for the next two weeks, if I don't
find time to fix this tomorrow.

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On Fri, 1 Oct 1999, The Hermit Hacker wrote:

> Anyone know of any problems with it?  One of my colleages recently moved
> from Windows -> FreeBSD (with not too much urging), but ever since the
> move, he has to 'ifconfig rl0 down; ifconfig rl0 up' at least once a day,
> which he's finding quite annoying :(

> Ideas:?

Mine works fine.  However, the comments in the if_rl.c file are pretty 
disparaging:

 * The RealTek 8139 PCI NIC redefines the meaning of 'low end.' This is
 * probably the worst PCI ethernet controller ever made, with the possible
 * exception of the FEAST chip made by SMC. The 8139 supports bus-master
 * DMA, but it has a terrible interface that nullifies any performance
 * gains that bus-master DMA usually offers.

Might want to suggest that he get a new NIC.

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From owner-freebsd-stable  Fri Oct  1 16:53:42 1999
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Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 09:23:34 +0930
From: Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
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Subject: HEADS UP!  Problems upgrading Vinum to 3.3-RELEASE
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This is a repeat of a message I sent to -questions and -hackers.  As
somebody pointed out, it's also a -STABLE issue.

I've just found and fixed a bug in Vinum which can cause the system to
crash on start.  It didn't exist in 3.2, and is fixed in 3.3-STABLE.
Briefly, 3.3 now allows you to put Vinum drives on any partition on
any slice, and it checks these slices on start.  If you don't have any
slice entries (/dev/da0s1a and friends), however, it will panic after
(incorrectly) reporting some subdisks to be crashed.  This bug does
not cause data corruption.

This bug has been fixed in 3.3-STABLE.  A copy of the kld is available
at ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/vinum/vinum.ko-3.3-STABLE-30Sep1999.

Note also that when upgrading from FreeBSD 3.2 to FreeBSD 3.3, you
must ensure that your Vinum drives are of type Vinum.  disklabel(8)
should show:

     3 partitions:
     #        size   offset    fstype   [fsize bsize bps/cpg]
       a:  2048000        0     vinum                        # (Cyl.    0 - 1042)
       c:  2048000        0    unused        0     0         # (Cyl.    0 - 1042)

If your partition is of type 'unused', change it with 'disklabel -e'.

To find out about current bugs in Vinum, see
http://www.lemis.com/vinum/bugs.html.

Greg
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From owner-freebsd-stable  Fri Oct  1 18:30:37 1999
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Nothing in the archives seemed conclusive, so I have to ask: are there
any issues that will bite me if I install 3.3 on this box?

The machines have one of Compaq's SCSI controllers that is supposed to
do mirroring, so I assume it's one of the raid controllers. They also
have a Digiboard 8 port board of some sort. Are there any issues
with Digi products I need to watch for? Any video or network gottchas?

The machines are only a couple of months old.

Unfortunately, I won't have any details until I meet with the client
early next week. What should I look out for?

Thanks for any feedback.









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From owner-freebsd-stable  Sat Oct  2  2:20: 5 1999
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Subject: Re: KDE 1.1.2 - screensaver password problem
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On Sat, Oct 02, 1999 at 12:37:26AM +0200, Stefan Esser wrote:

> I'll look into this. The screen-savers are not installed SUID
> because of changes in a script. I had fixed this in 1.1.1, but
> the old fix did not apply and I forgot to test, whether a new
> one was required (sorry). The screen-savers have to run as root,
> since they can't check the users password, else. I do not like 
> to have so many additional SUID root programs ...

I thought they had added a small checkpass program which was supposed
to do this for the screen savers so they wouldn't have to be SUID. I
think it was called kchkpass - I wonder if there is some compile time
option to enable this?

	David.


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From owner-freebsd-stable  Sat Oct  2 11:55:25 1999
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For the sake of completeness I report two (imho quite unobvious)
findings with cdrecord:

1. CD-recorders sometimes get confused about the inserted CD's contents.
   E.g. with a Plextor PX-W4220T and cdrecord 1.8a29 I found that
   the recorder still "thinks" there is already some space used up after
   a "cdrecord blank=fast". It also adds to the used-up space after
   _dummy_ writes. To let the recorder load the correct TOC just eject
   and reload the media after fastblanking or doing dummy writes.
2. The only difference between fast blanking CD-RWs (clearing the TOC
   only) and blanking the whole media is when writing multiple sessions.
   Multiple sessions work by having a pointer to the next session in the
   session's TOC. If you fastblank a CD-RW and happen to write a session
   such that it ends just before another session from the previous
   incarnation of the media this "deleted" session (and all following
   ones) will show up again. Surprise!

Just my Euro 0.02




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Hi,

I am currrently trying to upgrade my FreeBSD 3.1-Release to the Stable 
version and after downloading the source file using CVSup into /usr/src, 
I executed the following command,

make -DNOPROFILE=true buildworld

The compilation halts with the error log attached to this e-mail.

I will appreciate if anyone can reply to me via e-mail as I am not 
subscribed onto this mailing list.

Thank you.

Regards,
Seng Yip


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rebuilding my laptop from hard disk cresh (do not buy sony!).

3.2+PAO

roam.psg.com:/usr/ports/www/netscape46-navigator# make install
===>  Installing for netscape-navigator-4.61
===>   netscape-navigator-4.61 depends on shared library: X11.6 - found
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+ There are no aout libs on this machine. Install compat22 distribution. +
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
*** Error code 1

randy


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Dear gentleman,

I have a box running FreeBSD Stable, it works all fine (as you can
imagine). But some user level programs seems to be able to crash my box
!
I could not believe when that happened.

1) Amaya Web Browser.
	I were using amaya, i pointed a URl to went ot it, just after i tried
to select a text from the browser, and: MY SYSTEM FREEZED, not worked, i
had to the power-off.

2) XV crash my box too.
	Open XV, and then, try to grab a region of your X, your (mine) box
freezed too.


Did you ever face such a problem ?

Thanks a lot for your time and cooperation.



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So did you read the error message?  Did you install the compat22 aout 
libraries?


At 02:04 PM 10/2/99 , Randy Bush wrote:
>rebuilding my laptop from hard disk cresh (do not buy sony!).
>
>3.2+PAO
>
>roam.psg.com:/usr/ports/www/netscape46-navigator# make install
>===>  Installing for netscape-navigator-4.61
>===>   netscape-navigator-4.61 depends on shared library: X11.6 - found
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>+ There are no aout libs on this machine. Install compat22 distribution. +
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>*** Error code 1
>
>randy
>
>
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> So did you read the error message?

yes

> Did you install the compat22 aout libraries?

nope.  i could not understand if the 'compat22 distribution' was a
distribution of libs or of netscape.  i looked for a so named distribution
of netscape and did not find it.  i looked for compat* in the ports
directories and had no luck.

    roam.psg.com:/usr/ports# ls -d */comp*
    ls: */comp*: No such file or directory

i did a search of the web site, and it said to do a /stand/sysinstall, but i
can not see a compat22 package.

randy


> At 02:04 PM 10/2/99 , Randy Bush wrote:
>> rebuilding my laptop from hard disk cresh (do not buy sony!).
>> 
>> 3.2+PAO
>> 
>> roam.psg.com:/usr/ports/www/netscape46-navigator# make install
>> ===>  Installing for netscape-navigator-4.61
>> ===>   netscape-navigator-4.61 depends on shared library: X11.6 - found
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> + There are no aout libs on this machine. Install compat22 distribution. +
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> *** Error code 1
>> 
>> randy


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i found the turkey with a find / -name \*compat22\*

   /usr/src/lib/compat/compat22

and make followed by make install did it.

uh, it seems a bit strange to manually make and install part of the source
tree.  i had done a make buildworld/installworld.

well, thanks for the hint and the patience.

randy

> I believe it's only distributed as a package.  Either use /stand/sysinstall 
> to install the package or download it from an ftp site and install it by 
> hand using pkg_add.
> 
> 
> At 03:12 PM 10/2/99 , Randy Bush wrote:
>>> So did you read the error message?
>>
>>yes
>>
>>> Did you install the compat22 aout libraries?
>>
>> nope.  i could not understand if the compat22 distribution was a
>> distribution of libs or of netscape.  i looked for a named distribution
>> of netscape and did not find it.  i looked for compat* in the ports
>> directories and had no luck.
>>
>>     roam.psg.com:/usr/ports# ls -d */comp*
>>     ls: */comp*: No such file or directory
>>
>>> At 02:04 PM 10/2/99 , Randy Bush wrote:
>>>> rebuilding my laptop from hard disk cresh (do not buy sony!).
>>>>
>>>> 3.2+PAO
>>>>
>>>> roam.psg.com:/usr/ports/www/netscape46-navigator# make install
>>>> ===>  Installing for netscape-navigator-4.61
>>>> ===>   netscape-navigator-4.61 depends on shared library: X11.6 - found
>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>> + There are no aout libs on this machine. Install compat22 distribution. +
>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>> *** Error code 1
>>>>
>>>> randy


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Today Randy Bush wrote:

> uh, it seems a bit strange to manually make and install part of the source
> tree.  i had done a make buildworld/installworld.

Did you read /etc/make.conf?  :)

# If you want the "compat" shared libraries installed as part of
your normal
# builds, uncomment these:
#
#COMPAT1X=  yes
#COMPAT20=  yes
#COMPAT21=  yes
#COMPAT22=  yes

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Hi,

I recently installed FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE (990926-snapshot). The reason I 
upgraded was that my old 3.2-STABLE got unstable and rebooted a little now 
and then, just like it felt like it. Now, a couple of hours after the 
installation of 3.3-STABLE, I get the same strange phenomenon, the box just 
reboots.

I have the following things running..

sshd version 1.2.27
apache version 1.3.9
qmail version 1.03
bind/named version 8.2.1
pidentd 8.2.5
mrtg 2.8.8

If anyone has any suggestions why my machine is screwed up, or if there are 
any known problems or exploits in these programs, I would really appreciate 
it if someone could help me. Since I can't find anything wrong, I suspect 
that someone is trying to hack my machine, and successfully crashes it.

thanks,
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Subject: New CVSup mirror sites
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We've added quite a few new CVSup mirror sites this year.  I thought
it might be a good idea to list them, in the hope that some of you
would help spread the load by switching to them for your CVSup
updates.

One common misconception is that cvsup(N+1).FreeBSD.org is somehow
less up-to-date than or not as good as cvsup(N).FreeBSD.org.  That's
not the case at all -- the numbers mean nothing.  For example, all 7
of the US mirror sites get their updates hourly from the same master
site.  (So do most of the non-US mirrors.)  The only reasons to choose
one over another are (1) to get a good network route to the mirror,
and (2) to get a lightly-loaded mirror.

In the US, cvsup[1-3] are very busy; clients get turned away from them
on a regular basis because they are already at their limit.  The other
4 mirrors are practically idle in comparison.  These are all screaming
fast, well-connected, well-maintained mirrors.  Give them a try if you
haven't already!

As far as I can reconstruct from the revision history of the FreeBSD
Handbook, these are the mirrors that have been added since the
beginning of 1999:

    Brazil
        cvsup2.br.FreeBSD.org
        cvsup3.br.FreeBSD.org

    China
        cvsup.cn.FreeBSD.org

    Czech Republic
        cvsup.cz.FreeBSD.org

    Finland
        cvsup2.fi.FreeBSD.org

    France
        cvsup.fr.FreeBSD.org

    Korea
        cvsup.kr.FreeBSD.org

    Netherlands
        cvsup2.nl.FreeBSD.org

    Russia
        cvsup2.ru.FreeBSD.org

    Spain
        cvsup.es.FreeBSD.org

    Taiwan
        cvsup2.tw.FreeBSD.org
        cvsup3.tw.FreeBSD.org

    United Kingdom
        cvsup2.uk.FreeBSD.org

    USA
        cvsup4.FreeBSD.org
        cvsup6.FreeBSD.org
        cvsup7.FreeBSD.org

---
John Polstra
CVSup Mirrormeister

PS - Please don't start that "Why don't we use round-robin DNS?"
discussion again.  There are technical reasons why it isn't feasible
currently.  Maybe someday.


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From owner-freebsd-stable  Sat Oct  2 20:12:49 1999
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On Sun, 3 Oct 1999, Andreas Berg wrote:

> I recently installed FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE (990926-snapshot). The reason I 
> upgraded was that my old 3.2-STABLE got unstable and rebooted a little now 
> and then, just like it felt like it. Now, a couple of hours after the 
> installation of 3.3-STABLE, I get the same strange phenomenon, the box just 
> reboots.
> 
I've had the same problems...all due to hardware.  Machine would randomly
reboot about once a week, then once every two days or so, finally once a
day.  Tried upgrading hte software, checked for possible heat problems,
checked the RAM, all fine...Disabled the L2 cache, haven't had a single
problem since (unless you count the machine room getting flooded by
Hurricane Floyd).  Most unusual things can be traced down to hardware
problems.



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Try your hardware, i have already had sucha a problem.
It was low quality hardware.

--
ADA, n.:
	Something you need only know the name of to be an Expert in
Computing.  Useful in sentences like, "We had better develop an ADA
awareness."

On Sun, 3 Oct 1999, Andreas Berg wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I recently installed FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE (990926-snapshot). The reason I 
> upgraded was that my old 3.2-STABLE got unstable and rebooted a little now 
> and then, just like it felt like it. Now, a couple of hours after the 
> installation of 3.3-STABLE, I get the same strange phenomenon, the box just 
> reboots.
> 
> I have the following things running..
> 
> sshd version 1.2.27
> apache version 1.3.9
> qmail version 1.03
> bind/named version 8.2.1
> pidentd 8.2.5
> mrtg 2.8.8
> 
> If anyone has any suggestions why my machine is screwed up, or if there are 
> any known problems or exploits in these programs, I would really appreciate 
> it if someone could help me. Since I can't find anything wrong, I suspect 
> that someone is trying to hack my machine, and successfully crashes it.
> 
> thanks,
> Andy
> 
> 
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I was attempting to install PostgreSQL on a server today, and it
requires TK8.0. TK requires X. This particular server runs headless,
keyboardless, and is controlled 100% by remote. I'd rather not have X
installed, to save diskspace and any present/future security holes it
may open.

How do I get the software I want, without having to install X; or is X
pretty much a necessity?

Sean


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From owner-freebsd-stable  Sat Oct  2 22:17: 3 1999
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On Sat, 2 Oct 1999, Sean-Paul Rees wrote:
:->I was attempting to install PostgreSQL on a server today, and it
:->requires TK8.0. TK requires X. This particular server runs headless,
:->keyboardless, and is controlled 100% by remote. I'd rather not have X
:->installed, to save diskspace and any present/future security holes it
:->may open.
:->
:->How do I get the software I want, without having to install X; or is X
:->pretty much a necessity?

X isn't strictly necessary, but many thing need to have specific flags
set to turn off the requirements. However, if you want to run X
clients on the machine - the tcl/tk front end to PostgreSQL, for
instance, or xterm, or load, or ... - you'll need X installed.

For PostgreSQL (I'm looking at a 3.3-RELEASE machine), it looks like
you must have built it with USE_TCL=yes. This builds PostgreSQL 6.4.2,
and 6.5 is out, so you may have a new port which enables TCL by
default (that seems to be common).

Personally, I wound up installing X after the fact to get some X
client working - even on the headless servers - that I now just
install it by default.

	<mike





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cc -c -O -pipe -Wreturn-type -Wcomment -Wredundant-decls -Wimplicit  
-Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes  
-Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wuninitialized -Wformat -Wunused  
-fformat-extensions -ansi  -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include  
-DKERNEL -DVM_STACK -include opt_global.h -elf  ../../kern/kern_sig.c
../../kern/kern_sig.c: In function `expand_name':
../../kern/kern_sig.c:1275: argument `uid' doesn't match prototype
../../kern/kern_sig.c:74: prototype declaration
*** Error code 1

Stop.

Or has something changed in the configuration?





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