From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Nov 7 0:35: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54F2F14C31 for ; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 00:35:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com (p24-dn03kiryunisiki.gunma.ocn.ne.jp [210.232.224.153]) by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN) with ESMTP id RAA26218; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 17:34:41 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <382485B7.A8BDA80D@newsguy.com> Date: Sun, 07 Nov 1999 04:47:03 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Juergen Lock Cc: Matt Behrens , zzhang@cs.binghamton.edu, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: easyboot far into disk References: <199911061143.MAA35365@saturn.kn-bremen.de> <19991106194256.A45418@saturn.kn-bremen.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Juergen Lock wrote: > > And if we add a loader command that sets currdev to the first non-floppy > ufs root found (or could this be done in forth too? :) we could even > distribute a general emergency-boot-floppy... The forth part of loader has a serious problem in that it cannot get data back from any of the non-forth commands. So, for instance, if we "set" a variable, there is no way for a program to retrieve the value the variable has been set to. This and a few other things are in my queue for a long time now, but since nobody has been complaining about it, I let it be... :-) -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org What y'all wanna do? Wanna be hackers? Code crackers? Slackers Wastin' time with all the chatroom yakkers? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Nov 7 6:48:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.polytechnic.edu.na (mail.polytechnic.edu.na [196.31.225.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E856614CEA for ; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 06:48:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tim@iafrica.com.na) Received: from [196.31.225.199] (helo=310.priebe.alt.na) by mail.polytechnic.edu.na with smtp (Exim 3.02 #2) id 11k6gT-0001cS-00; Sat, 06 Nov 1999 12:19:13 -0200 From: Tim Priebe Reply-To: tim@iafrica.com.na To: chad@DCFinc.com, "Chad R. Larson" , stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: VLAN support in -stable? (fwd) Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 13:51:37 +0200 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.17] Content-Type: text/plain References: <199911051658.JAA23468@freeway.dcfinc.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <99110614162802.00318@310.priebe.alt.na> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-KMail-Mark: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 05 Nov 1999, Chad R. Larson wrote: > During an off-line discussion, a friend of mine wrote: > > >>> I have just come across a big problem using vlans on a FreeBSD box. > >>> The mtu on the vlan interfaces is only 1496 bytes, the problem is > >>> that any packets destined for the Interface larger than this are > >>> just thrown away. The solution > > > > It's true that 802.1Q makes packets be 4 bytes longer. However, I've > > not found a NIC that can't handle the larger packet, and hubs sure don't > > care. The switches think it's just ducky, usually, since they hope to > > implement the VLAN feature themselves. Changing the MTU in BSD is the > > wrong approach, though. What they need to do is increase the size of > > the ethernet header by 4 bytes (ETHER_MAX_LEN). There needs to be a > > mechanism by which this may be done without a kernel rebuild, though. I thought this was the solution, I added 4 to ETHER_MAX_LEN, rebuilt the kernel, rebooted. The mtu on the physical interfaces was 1504, so I changed it to 1500. I then reurned the mtu on the sun to 1500, and ran a few simple tests, it looked fine. The following morning, I was told things were a mess. A quick look and the system was running at 100% inturupt, 0% idle. I switched the kernel back, and rebooted, droped the mtu on the sun to 1496, and people could talk to the sun properly again. A little side note the system is still at 100% interupt, so that part of the problem had nothing to do with the change. I will try again as soon as I get some new equipment ready. > > The thing that really surprised me was that I can send both "tagged" > > packets and normal ethernet packets on the same BSD interface! I don't > > know why I was so surprised. I have a 3COM 802.1Q-compliant switch with > > one of its 10/100 ports configured as a VLAN trunk (so it expects its > > packets to have the 4-byte tags) and another of its ports in a specified > > VLAN. I built my BSD kernel with support for 24 vlans, and hacked > > ifconfig to let me set the vlan number (no tools in the distribution to > > do that). I can talk out the switch's port just fine, and I can also > > talk to the switch and other things on the normal BSD interface just as > > though the tagged packets weren't there. So, the BSD interface sends > > both tagged and untagged packets and things on the LAN see the ones they > > are supposed to, without the others appearing to be problems. Cool! > > > > However, if you have bpf configured in your kernel, it will panic > > occasionally when doing TCP over tagged packets. I'm looking for info > > on that one. I do not have bpf configured and it ocassionally panics now, but with the system sitting at 100% interupt it may have nothing to do with vlans. Tim. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Nov 7 8: 4:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from blaubaer.kn-bremen.de (blaubaer.kn-bremen.de [195.37.179.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F5ED14D24 for ; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 08:04:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nox@saturn.kn-bremen.de) Received: from saturn.kn-bremen.de (uucp@localhost) by blaubaer.kn-bremen.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with UUCP id RAA08223; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 17:02:32 +0100 Received: (from nox@localhost) by saturn.kn-bremen.de (8.9.3/8.8.5) id NAA82308; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 13:17:46 +0100 (MET) From: Juergen Lock Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 13:17:45 +0100 To: "Rodney W. Grimes" Cc: Matt Behrens , zzhang@cs.binghamton.edu, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: easyboot far into disk Message-ID: <19991107131744.A81793@saturn.kn-bremen.de> References: <19991107031828.A59629@saturn.kn-bremen.de> <199911070444.UAA63937@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.7i In-Reply-To: <199911070444.UAA63937@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Nov 06, 1999 at 08:44:57PM -0800, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > On Sat, Nov 06, 1999 at 11:30:39AM -0800, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > > > I forgot: > > > > make install DESTDIR=/mnt > > > > > > This has bugs in it, it flobbs with /var/db/kvm_kernel.db and should > > > not do any of that stuff unless DESTDIR is null or / or / equiv. > > > > Hmm. I actually looked at the make -n output but missed that bug (oops!) > > > > What would break if we just used ${DESTDIR}/var/db/kvm_kernel.db > > there too? Somehow i would believe it isn't doing it that way for > > a reason... > > The fact that ${DESTDIR}/var/db may not even exist if I am using DESTDIR > to stuff a kernel someplace safe. I think it does a test -f, that should just fail in that case? > > Think about it... the purpose of frobbing with /var/db/kvm_kernel.db is > becuase you _MAY_ be frobbing the kernel running image and libkvm doesn't > like it when /kernel and /bar/db/kvm_kernel.db are missmatched. Yep... > (I think this > code is also seriously broken for the case that you booted some other > kernel. Oh. > It should only be frobbing things if the file it is about to > replace is the file returned by ``sysctl kern.bootfile'', in all other > cases it should do nothing more than install the file.) Sounds good. so use ${DESTDIR}/var/db/kvm_kernel.db but only if kern.bootfile is ${DESTDIR}/kernel? That seems to me like the cleanest way to do it... Regards, -- Juergen Lock (remove dot foo from address to reply) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Nov 7 8: 4:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from blaubaer.kn-bremen.de (blaubaer.kn-bremen.de [195.37.179.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6419714DF0 for ; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 08:04:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nox@saturn.kn-bremen.de) Received: from saturn.kn-bremen.de (uucp@localhost) by blaubaer.kn-bremen.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with UUCP id RAA08238; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 17:02:34 +0100 Received: (from nox@localhost) by saturn.kn-bremen.de (8.9.3/8.8.5) id NAA82570; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 13:34:09 +0100 (MET) From: Juergen Lock Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 13:34:08 +0100 To: "Daniel C. Sobral" Cc: Matt Behrens , zzhang@cs.binghamton.edu, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: easyboot far into disk Message-ID: <19991107133407.B81793@saturn.kn-bremen.de> References: <199911061143.MAA35365@saturn.kn-bremen.de> <19991106194256.A45418@saturn.kn-bremen.de> <382485B7.A8BDA80D@newsguy.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.7i In-Reply-To: <382485B7.A8BDA80D@newsguy.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Nov 07, 1999 at 04:47:03AM +0900, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: > Juergen Lock wrote: > > > > And if we add a loader command that sets currdev to the first non-floppy > > ufs root found (or could this be done in forth too? :) we could even > > distribute a general emergency-boot-floppy... > > The forth part of loader has a serious problem in that it cannot get > data back from any of the non-forth commands. So, for instance, if > we "set" a variable, there is no way for a program to retrieve the > value the variable has been set to. Oh. (I think I actually already wondered about this once, but thought I just didn't look right...) > > This and a few other things are in my queue for a long time now, but > since nobody has been complaining about it, I let it be... :-) > Well. Anyway if (big if) _I_ wanted to do this I would have done it in the C part anyway, my forth is waay too rusty. :) Regards, -- Juergen Lock (remove dot foo from address to reply) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Nov 7 8: 6: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nisser.com (c1870039.telekabel.chello.nl [212.187.0.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A62814D24 for ; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 08:06:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from roelof@nisser.com) Received: from nisser.com (roelof [10.0.0.2]) by nisser.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA25111; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 17:11:13 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from roelof@nisser.com) Message-ID: <3825A36E.5920209D@nisser.com> Date: Sun, 07 Nov 1999 17:06:06 +0100 From: Roelof Osinga Organization: eboa - engineering buro Office Automation X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Smith Cc: Randy Bush , FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: easyboot far into disk References: <199911062057.MAA07266@dingo.cdrom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike Smith wrote: > > > Nice, if the boot process can work with the CHS driver. The problem > > is that is not always the case. E.g. mine. So you can't *get* up and > > running. > > Ok. Would you care to share some details of your problems, rather than > just the bile and vitriol? It has been over on -questions. B.t.w. I fail to see bile and/or vitriol in stating that a problem occurres. You should've seen the first draft, written after a week of diligently trying, studying manpages, discussing over on -questions, reading relevant pages in Greg's book, etc. > > SOL. You can copy the boot0cfg onto the fixit, but what about the > > Build it static. We were, and are, talking newbies here. > "We" being whom, here? Most of us can just fine. If your BIOS won't > translate "right" past the 1024 cylinder mark then you're in the > minority these days. But even then, you can build a new boot1/boot2 > with packet-mode as default enabled and install them on the floppy. The > loader doesn't do packet mode yet simply because I haven't found a case > where it's been needed. Some others over on -questions. Would I have had a case for you! In case you're interested it's a Plato MB with a Quantum EL 5.1A. Again, I'm pretty much sure all this can be build and installed. What I dare to dispute, however, is the easy accessibility of friendly instructions outlining the process. For newbies. > That wouldn't have been nice; we tested it (I've mentioned this > publically before), and it kills quite a number of machines dead. You > wouldn't have been able to boot them at all. That would have been bad. There you go, I mentioned the details publically before. You seem to have missed those, I seem to have missed your mention. But I agree that a larger number of machines dead is worse. > > - boot had the -o packet option > > I don't follow what you're suggesting here. Simple. boot0cfg clearly does something to something. boot can be interupted. Why not put the code that does something to something into boot so that on ancient machines that need it it can be had without going through the hoopla's needed to get it currently. From a newbie's perspective pressing space and entering "boot -o packet" is way more prerable than building a statically linked boot0cfg, injecting that - usually by magic incantation - into some diskette, executing said executable together with new cabalistic handweaving only to end up with something that could mayhap have been incorporated in the first place. > > - the install disks could be used to access ones root disk > > They can. So people keep telling me. I spend over a week on it an I tell you they can't. Not in any sensible way, that is. Compared to this, say, Linux is pure bliss. You pop in the disk enter the root and you're off. Better yet, the process is described in the installation README. Even a newbie can do that, especially with some handholding. > They have been, but ideally there shouldn't be any magic required. Granted on the latter, but as to the former... what does one need to ritually slaughter in order to find those reputed instructions? > > - people that yell RTFM would be automatically throttled > > That's stupid. Documentation exists to save our time and effort. If > you're too lazy to read it, you've got it coming to you. I don't know. It's a good way to cull population growth. But you're missing the point. What newbie would know what docs to read in the first place? Don't tell me boot0cfg is intuitively named . From a newbie's perspective that wouldn't know a boot if it reset him. E.g. nisser:/home/www/Slak$ man boot | grep packet nisser:/home/www/Slak$ man loader | grep packet nisser:/home/www/Slak$ man boot0cfg | grep packet packet Use the disk packet (BIOS Int 0x13 extensions) interface `nopacket'. Use of the `packet' option may cause `boot0' to fail, depending on the nisser:/home/www/Slak$ So you can, and I did, study man-pages till you drop; but if you somehow fail to miss the right one you're up the creek without a paddle. And then you come here only to read people saying "oh, it's so easy, all you need to do is read the man-pages" WHAT manpage! or how about "took me awhile but I figured it out, it's easy once you know how". So tell us the steps allready! Boot and loader are covered by some 31 manpages. Most of which is and alway will be absolutely irrelevant for the average user, never mind the newbie. BTW count is straightforward aporpos: nisser:/home/www/Slak$ echo `apropos boot | wc -l` " + " `apropos loader | wc -l` | bc 31 > TFM still tells you to put the root filesystem below 1024 cylinders. > In most cases, you can get away with anything up to 8GB, but we don't > document that because of people like yourself. Yeah, yeah. Got a system running quite happily with >10 GB. Thank you very much. The problem here is that FreeBSD on this particular box does not do what Linux does, namely correctly detecting the disk geometry. And therein, as they say, lies the rub. Completed, naturally, by being locked into the installation process if you go back to the install disks. Come hell or high water, when you exit it you reboot. If there is a way to install the root in such a way that it uses the correct disk geometry I have failed to find it. In which I am not alone, b.t.w. Mind you, these are just my findings. To with as you please. I've already come to the conclusion that it will be just a bit more time efficient to wipe that disk, install a small DOS partition and reinstall the OS. Funny, though, that FreeBSD needs DOS to run ;). Roelof -- Home is where the (@) http://eboa.com/ is. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Nov 7 8:24:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web119.yahoomail.com (web119.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1BD9A14D24 for ; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 08:24:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ixkatl@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <19991107163341.10700.rocketmail@web119.yahoomail.com> Received: from [207.172.144.231] by web119.yahoomail.com; Sun, 07 Nov 1999 08:33:40 PST Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 08:33:40 -0800 (PST) From: Andrew Sherrod Subject: Re: easyboot far into disk To: FreeBSD Stable MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG There IS a patch for the disk geometry problem. (Thus I have been repeatedly told it is NOT a REAL problem.) See bug reports i386/9431 and i386/10862. Both include my suggested patch to make wd.c recognize the correct geometry at installation. (Rather than requiring the DOS partition work-around or requiring the user to manually configure the disks after start-up.) (Oh, please ignore the one mistake blaming the problem on BIOS rather than disk controller. Otherwise, I stand behind everything written in the bug reports.) Andrew Sherrod --- Roelof Osinga wrote: > Mike Smith wrote: > > > > > Nice, if the boot process can work with the CHS > driver. The problem > > > is that is not always the case. E.g. mine. So > you can't *get* up and > > > running. > > > > Ok. Would you care to share some details of your > problems, rather than > > just the bile and vitriol? > > It has been over on -questions. B.t.w. I fail to see > bile and/or vitriol > in stating that a problem occurres. You should've > seen the first draft, > written after a week of diligently trying, studying > manpages, discussing > over on -questions, reading relevant pages in Greg's > book, etc. > > > > SOL. You can copy the boot0cfg onto the fixit, > but what about the > > > > Build it static. > > We were, and are, talking newbies here. > > > "We" being whom, here? Most of us can just fine. > If your BIOS won't > > translate "right" past the 1024 cylinder mark then > you're in the > > minority these days. But even then, you can build > a new boot1/boot2 > > with packet-mode as default enabled and install > them on the floppy. The > > loader doesn't do packet mode yet simply because I > haven't found a case > > where it's been needed. > > Some others over on -questions. Would I have had a > case for you! In > case you're interested it's a Plato MB with a > Quantum EL 5.1A. Again, > I'm pretty much sure all this can be build and > installed. What I dare > to dispute, however, is the easy accessibility of > friendly instructions > outlining the process. For newbies. > > > That wouldn't have been nice; we tested it (I've > mentioned this > > publically before), and it kills quite a number of > machines dead. You > > wouldn't have been able to boot them at all. That > would have been bad. > > There you go, I mentioned the details publically > before. You seem to > have missed those, I seem to have missed your > mention. But I agree that > a larger number of machines dead is worse. > > > > - boot had the -o packet option > > > > I don't follow what you're suggesting here. > > Simple. boot0cfg clearly does something to > something. boot can be > interupted. Why not put the code that does something > to something into > boot so that on ancient machines that need it it can > be had without > going through the hoopla's needed to get it > currently. From a newbie's > perspective pressing space and entering "boot -o > packet" is way more > prerable than building a statically linked boot0cfg, > injecting that - > usually by magic incantation - into some diskette, > executing said > executable together with new cabalistic handweaving > only to end up > with something that could mayhap have been > incorporated in the > first place. > > > > - the install disks could be used to access ones > root disk > > > > They can. > > So people keep telling me. I spend over a week on it > an I tell you > they can't. Not in any sensible way, that is. > Compared to this, say, > Linux is pure bliss. You pop in the disk enter the > root and you're off. > Better yet, the process is described in the > installation README. Even > a newbie can do that, especially with some > handholding. > > > They have been, but ideally there shouldn't be any > magic required. > > Granted on the latter, but as to the former... what > does one need to > ritually slaughter in order to find those reputed > instructions? > > > > - people that yell RTFM would be automatically > throttled > > > > That's stupid. Documentation exists to save our > time and effort. If > > you're too lazy to read it, you've got it coming > to you. > > I don't know. It's a good way to cull population > growth. But you're > missing the point. What newbie would know what docs > to read in the > first place? Don't tell me boot0cfg is intuitively > named . From a > newbie's perspective that wouldn't know a boot if it > reset him. E.g. > > nisser:/home/www/Slak$ man boot | grep packet > nisser:/home/www/Slak$ man loader | grep packet > nisser:/home/www/Slak$ man boot0cfg | grep packet > packet Use the disk packet (BIOS Int > 0x13 extensions) interface > `nopacket'. > Use of the `packet' option may cause `boot0' to > fail, depending on the > nisser:/home/www/Slak$ > > So you can, and I did, study man-pages till you > drop; but if you > somehow fail to miss the right one you're up the > creek without a paddle. > And then you come here only to read people saying > "oh, it's so easy, > all you need to do is read the man-pages" WHAT > manpage! or how about > "took me awhile but I figured it out, it's easy once > you know how". So > tell us the steps allready! > > Boot and loader are covered by some 31 manpages. > Most of which is and > alway will be absolutely irrelevant for the average > user, never mind > the newbie. BTW count is straightforward aporpos: > > nisser:/home/www/Slak$ echo `apropos boot | wc -l` " > + " `apropos loader | wc > -l` | bc > 31 > > > TFM still tells you to put the root filesystem > below 1024 cylinders. > > In most cases, you can get away with anything up > to 8GB, but we don't > > document that because of people like yourself. > > Yeah, yeah. Got a system running quite happily with > >10 GB. Thank you > very much. The problem here is that FreeBSD on this > particular box does > not do what Linux does, namely correctly detecting > the disk geometry. > > And therein, as they say, lies the rub. > > Completed, naturally, by being locked into the > installation process if > you go back to the install disks. Come hell or high > water, when you exit > it you reboot. If there is a way to install the root > in such a way that > it uses the correct disk geometry I have failed to > find it. In which I > am not alone, b.t.w. > > Mind you, these are just my findings. To with as you > please. I've already > come to the conclusion that it will be just a bit > more time efficient to > wipe that disk, install a small DOS partition and > reinstall the OS. Funny, > though, that FreeBSD needs DOS to run ;). > > Roelof > > -- > Home is where the (@) http://eboa.com/ is. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the > message > ===== 'During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet.' - Al Gore, March 9, 1999: On CNN's Late Edition __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Nov 7 9:11:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from luna.lyris.net (luna.shelby.com [207.90.155.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2F1014A14 for ; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 09:11:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kip@lyris.com) Received: from luna.shelby.com by luna.lyris.net (8.9.1b+Sun/SMI-SVR4) id JAA06983; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 09:11:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from (luna.shelby.com [207.90.155.6]) by luna.shelby.com with SMTP (MailShield v1.50); Sun, 07 Nov 1999 09:11:29 -0700 Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 09:11:28 -0800 (PST) From: Kip Macy X-Sender: kip@luna To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: hang at probing devices screen on VAIO505 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-SMTP-HELO: luna X-SMTP-MAIL-FROM: kip@lyris.com X-SMTP-RCPT-TO: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-SMTP-PEER-INFO: luna.shelby.com [207.90.155.6] Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I sent this to questions but never got a response so I am sending it here. Both PAO and the normal boot floppies hang at the probing devices screen on my Sony VAIO505S. The PAO FAQ does not mention anything about such a problem, and the freebsd.org FAQ suggests that one disconnect one's IDE Jaz or Zip drive, neither of which I have. Does the VAIO505 just fall under the unsupported system category? Thanks. -Kip To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Nov 7 11:45:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles527.castles.com [208.214.165.91]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82CDA14C87 for ; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 11:45:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA13471; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 11:36:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199911071936.LAA13471@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Kip Macy Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: hang at probing devices screen on VAIO505 In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 07 Nov 1999 09:11:28 PST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 07 Nov 1999 11:36:54 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I sent this to questions but never got a response so I am sending it here. > > Both PAO and the normal boot floppies hang at the probing devices screen > on my Sony VAIO505S. The PAO FAQ does not mention anything about such a > problem, and the freebsd.org FAQ suggests that one disconnect one's IDE > Jaz or Zip drive, neither of which I have. Does the VAIO505 just fall > under the unsupported system category? Thanks. Turn off the 'memory stick' device in the BIOS setup screen. It appears that on those machines it either lookes like an IDE device, or at least lives in that address range, and gets our probes all in a tizz. -- \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Nov 7 12: 6:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles527.castles.com [208.214.165.91]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFCA214F12 for ; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 12:06:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA13619; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 11:57:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199911071957.LAA13619@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Juergen Lock Cc: Mike Smith , zzhang@cs.binghamton.edu, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: easyboot far into disk In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 07 Nov 1999 03:54:54 +0100." <19991107035454.B59629@saturn.kn-bremen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 07 Nov 1999 11:57:26 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Rootdev ought to work, actually. But if you get it wrong, the loader > > will fall back to using currdev. > > Hmm then thats strange. I first tried rootdev, which didn't work, and > then later currdev, which did work, and i believe i used the same value > both times! Or was rootdev fixed only recently, the boot floppies i > had lying around and tested this on weren't the latest... I thought rootdev was fixed a long time back. If it's not, please tell me and I'll fix it again. 8) > > > Btw i remember reading in a commitlog that the concept of a `current > > > device' in loader is about to go, so maybe now this no longer works in > > > -current... > > > > The model I'm currently looking at tries to hide the way the loader > > thinks about devices as much as possible simply because it's too > > confusing. > > Well its just the BIOS' way to think about devices, isn't it? Not really; it's a confusing mix of sort-of the way the BIOS thinks about devices, and sort-of the way that we think about them. > > In -current the "best" way to tell your loaded kernel where > > to find its root filesystem is with the vfs.root.mountfrom tunable. > > But since the kernel isn't using the BIOS to mount its root that > of course still makes much more sense. (no need to fiddle with > root_disk_unit if the disk is on the second IDE channel and there > aren't two more on the first, or if there are both IDE and SCSI > disks...) That's exactly the point. The crucial problem has always been working out how to translate the BIOS unit number into a device name (or major/ minor). So we don't bother anymore (except for fall-back emergency cases). > > > (Maybe this should be added to the FAQ as a method of last resort when > > > the BIOS boot code can't see above cyl 1024?) > > > > From what I've been hearing from people lately, in most cases it's 8GB > > that's the new sound barrier, > > Yea, probably true with later boards. (anyone know if there's a > real technical reason for that, or just again short-sightedness of > the BIOS writers? I mean first 32M if i remember right, then 512M, > then 2G, now 8G... shouldn't everyone know by now that disks are > getting bigger all the time?) It's a limitation of the c/h/s interface and the practical translations available. Over 8GB we finally have to use LBA mode; the problem there is that there's still too much legacy hardware out there that will break if we default to it. > > but yes, a FAQ entry is probably worth > > writing. Go to it! > > Thats what i get for saying such things... :) Well OK, once i know > why `rootdev' didn't work i should have a try. Thanks! -- \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Nov 7 12: 9:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22B7214C4A for ; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 12:09:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bright@wintelcom.net) Received: from localhost (bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA07654; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 12:33:36 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 12:33:36 -0800 (PST) From: Alfred Perlstein To: Kip Macy Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: hang at probing devices screen on VAIO505 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 7 Nov 1999, Kip Macy wrote: > I sent this to questions but never got a response so I am sending it here. > > > Both PAO and the normal boot floppies hang at the probing devices screen > on my Sony VAIO505S. The PAO FAQ does not mention anything about such a > problem, and the freebsd.org FAQ suggests that one disconnect one's IDE > Jaz or Zip drive, neither of which I have. Does the VAIO505 just fall > under the unsupported system category? Thanks. i think someone posted just last week that he needed to disbale "memory sticks" in his bios? let us know, -Alfred To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Nov 7 12:22:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles527.castles.com [208.214.165.91]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87DB114C7F for ; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 12:22:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA13716; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 12:13:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199911072013.MAA13716@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Roelof Osinga Cc: Mike Smith , Randy Bush , FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: easyboot far into disk In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 07 Nov 1999 17:06:06 +0100." <3825A36E.5920209D@nisser.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 07 Nov 1999 12:13:20 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > Nice, if the boot process can work with the CHS driver. The problem > > > is that is not always the case. E.g. mine. So you can't *get* up and > > > running. > > > > Ok. Would you care to share some details of your problems, rather than > > just the bile and vitriol? > > It has been over on -questions. That's not very helpful. > B.t.w. I fail to see bile and/or vitriol > in stating that a problem occurres. You should've seen the first draft, > written after a week of diligently trying, studying manpages, discussing > over on -questions, reading relevant pages in Greg's book, etc. With all that study, you still didn't come across the "do not put the root filesystem above the 1024 cylinder mark" warning? > > > SOL. You can copy the boot0cfg onto the fixit, but what about the > > > > Build it static. > > We were, and are, talking newbies here. Newbies should read the instructions. > > "We" being whom, here? Most of us can just fine. If your BIOS won't > > translate "right" past the 1024 cylinder mark then you're in the > > minority these days. But even then, you can build a new boot1/boot2 > > with packet-mode as default enabled and install them on the floppy. The > > loader doesn't do packet mode yet simply because I haven't found a case > > where it's been needed. > > Some others over on -questions. Would I have had a case for you! In > case you're interested it's a Plato MB with a Quantum EL 5.1A. Again, > I'm pretty much sure all this can be build and installed. What I dare > to dispute, however, is the easy accessibility of friendly instructions > outlining the process. For newbies. You're welcome to contribute them. > > > - boot had the -o packet option > > > > I don't follow what you're suggesting here. > > Simple. boot0cfg clearly does something to something. boot can be > interupted. Why not put the code that does something to something into > boot so that on ancient machines that need it it can be had without > going through the hoopla's needed to get it currently. Please go look at the code for boot0. Please tell us where it's possible to put this extra functionality. Please tell us why this is ncessary when the instructions, and everything pertaining to booting PC operating systems, tell you not to install above 1024 cylinders. > From a newbie's > perspective pressing space and entering "boot -o packet" You can't get that far if you need packet mode. > is way more > prerable than building a statically linked boot0cfg, injecting that - > usually by magic incantation - into some diskette, executing said > executable together with new cabalistic handweaving only to end up > with something that could mayhap have been incorporated in the > first place. Now here's the interesting bit. Don't you think that if it was possible and desirable, we would have done it already? So perhaps the reason it hasn't been done is technical, and not based on the fact that we hate people like you? You really have two options here: a) Invest the time and effort required to understand the issues involved. This will mean a lot more than "a week" worth of study. Once you've done this, you'll have a better perspective for understanding the issues involved. b) Trust that the people actually working on the code have some idea of what they're doing, and avoid attacking them. Note that you will generally get better responses from people if you don't rub them up the wrong way first. > > > - the install disks could be used to access ones root disk > > > > They can. > > So people keep telling me. I spend over a week on it an I tell you > they can't. Not in any sensible way, that is. Compared to this, say, > Linux is pure bliss. You pop in the disk enter the root and you're off. > Better yet, the process is described in the installation README. Even > a newbie can do that, especially with some handholding. Only if you've installed below the 1024 cylinder mark. > > They have been, but ideally there shouldn't be any magic required. > > Granted on the latter, but as to the former... what does one need to > ritually slaughter in order to find those reputed instructions? Common sense is typically enough. The boot(8) manpage covers the second-stage bootstrap in considerable detail. The loader(8) manpage covers the loader pretty well. The loader also has an internal interactive help system. > > > - people that yell RTFM would be automatically throttled > > > > That's stupid. Documentation exists to save our time and effort. If > > you're too lazy to read it, you've got it coming to you. > > I don't know. It's a good way to cull population growth. But you're > missing the point. What newbie would know what docs to read in the > first place? Don't tell me boot0cfg is intuitively named . From a > newbie's perspective that wouldn't know a boot if it reset him. E.g. A "newbie" should not be involved in anything related to this, as they should have been following Rule #1: DO NOT INSTALL ABOVE 1024 CYLINDERS. > > TFM still tells you to put the root filesystem below 1024 cylinders. > > In most cases, you can get away with anything up to 8GB, but we don't > > document that because of people like yourself. > > Yeah, yeah. Got a system running quite happily with >10 GB. Thank you > very much. The problem here is that FreeBSD on this particular box does > not do what Linux does, namely correctly detecting the disk geometry. I'm at a loss as to why "correctly detecting" the disk geometry is an issue. If there's more than one OS on the disk, FreeBSD will us the geometry as indicated in the slice table, which is the only one that should be considered. If there isn't more than one OS, it doesn't matter what the geometry is. > Completed, naturally, by being locked into the installation process if > you go back to the install disks. Come hell or high water, when you exit > it you reboot. If there is a way to install the root in such a way that > it uses the correct disk geometry I have failed to find it. In which I > am not alone, b.t.w. It's called "fixit mode", and it's documented in the online help, and right there on the first menu you see when sysinstall starts. You can also abort the boot process after the mfsroot image is loaded, just like the message with the 10-second countdown tells you. -- \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Nov 7 12:38:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from resnet.uoregon.edu (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.144.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01CCD14D08 for ; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 12:38:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by resnet.uoregon.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA32057; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 12:38:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu) Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 12:38:45 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White To: Jean Delaney Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Kernel routing table question In-Reply-To: <199911062244.OAA31263@www.geocrawler.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 6 Nov 1999, Jean Delaney wrote: > Is this normal > > 24.200.7.157 127.0.0.1 UGHS 0 0 lo0 (this line) Yes. Doug White | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Nov 7 13: 9:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from parsons.rh.rit.edu (d116-l055.rh.rit.edu [129.21.116.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 783F11502A for ; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 13:09:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mfisher@csh.rit.edu) Received: from mfisher (helo=localhost) by parsons.rh.rit.edu with local-esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11kZYq-00009Q-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 16:09:16 -0500 Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 16:09:14 -0500 (EST) From: Mike Fisher X-Sender: mfisher@parsons.rh.rit.edu To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: -STABLE panics Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi. I had been running a -STABLE kernel from Fri Sep 17 12:56:58 EDT 1999 with no problems for many weeks. However, a rumored power outage in my dorm led to my downing my machine yesterday and my booting to a kernel that I had built from the same config file the day before. Since then, I have been incurring a lot of panics when using the up-to-date kernels. I believe this to be related to the networking facilities; here are some of the panic reasons I have had: cksum: out of data panic: m_copydata panic: m_copym panic: arpintr I tried flushing and re-cvsupping my sources (believing that my local copy was in error) but I still get the same problems. I have placed a copy of my kernel config file at and a copy of /var/log/messages at . Is there any easy way for me to try to find out where the differences in the sources are that have accumulated over the last two months? - -- Mike "The man who puts all the guns and all the decision-making power into the hands of the central government and then says, 'Limit yourself'; it is he who is truly the impractical utopian." -- Murray Rothbard -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP for Personal Privacy 5.0i Comment: Charset: noconv iQA/AwUBOCXqewNoiUfuQq8NEQLSOQCg9svNrpa2ge9XaBT8rgFUILTAivYAniPt TEIQjwpAboxEQn/0zU7Gdgno =J8J3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Nov 7 14: 6:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relax.dreamfire.net (relax.dreamfire.net [207.113.154.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 036F415085 for ; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 14:06:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sean@dreamfire.net) Received: from dreamfire.net (indigo.dreamfire.net [192.168.10.8]) by relax.dreamfire.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D887FA for ; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 14:06:13 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3825F7E7.31AE58D8@dreamfire.net> Date: Sun, 07 Nov 1999 14:06:31 -0800 From: Sean-Paul Rees Organization: The Dreamfire Solutions Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.6 sun4m) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: WinTV - stereo, radio and FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a WinTV Model that supports stereo and has a built on radio tuner. I managed to get the TV and Radio working in Linux [no remote control support :-(]. Does FreeBSD support the onboard radio, and tv, and stereo, and maybe even have some sort of port for the remote control? This is my goal: Boot FreeBSD, run TV in fullscreen with remote and stereo capacity. Cheers, Sean To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Nov 7 14:26:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from parsons.rh.rit.edu (d116-l055.rh.rit.edu [129.21.116.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C891B150A8 for ; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 14:26:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mfisher@csh.rit.edu) Received: from mfisher (helo=localhost) by parsons.rh.rit.edu with local-esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11kalD-0000EQ-00; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 17:26:07 -0500 Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 17:26:06 -0500 (EST) From: Mike Fisher X-Sender: mfisher@parsons.rh.rit.edu To: Sean-Paul Rees Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: WinTV - stereo, radio and FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <3825F7E7.31AE58D8@dreamfire.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 7 Nov 1999, Sean-Paul Rees wrote: > I have a WinTV Model that supports stereo and has a built on radio > tuner. I managed to get the TV and Radio working in Linux [no remote > control support :-(]. Does FreeBSD support the onboard radio, and tv, > and stereo, and maybe even have some sort of port for the remote > control? Look into ports/graphics/fxtv; it should handle the TV portion of the card. Fxtv contains documentation about how to get it to work with some remote controls. I have a stereo WinTV; fxtv works beautifully for fullscreen TV in X. Kudos to Randall Hopper for his work on this. Some of the tuner ports in ports/audio should handle the radio part. - -- Mike "The man who puts all the guns and all the decision-making power into the hands of the central government and then says, 'Limit yourself'; it is he who is truly the impractical utopian." -- Murray Rothbard -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP for Personal Privacy 5.0i Comment: Charset: noconv iQA/AwUBOCX8fwNoiUfuQq8NEQLW2wCgohYZkaVBRAPAsH8EygAlT5z4ow8An1/8 dsTi5dxzYa/YDTJPmBo6j1DC =Dxin -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Nov 7 15:20:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gw.nectar.com (gw.nectar.com [209.98.143.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66E31150AB for ; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 15:20:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nectar@nectar.com) Received: from bone.nectar.com (bone.nectar.com [10.0.0.105]) by gw.nectar.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C29A92435A6; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 17:18:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from bone.nectar.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bone.nectar.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8CBA1D7A; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 17:19:58 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.0 09/18/1999 X-Exmh-Isig-CompType: repl X-Exmh-Isig-Folder: mlist/freebsd/stable X-PGP-RSAfprint: 00 F9 E6 A2 C5 4D 0A 76 26 8B 8B 57 73 D0 DE EE X-PGP-RSAkey: http://www.nectar.com/nectar-rsa.txt X-PGP-DSSfprint: AB2F 8D71 A4F4 467D 352E 8A41 5D79 22E4 71A2 8C73 X-PGP-DHfprint: 2D50 12E5 AB38 60BA AF4B 0778 7242 4460 1C32 F6B1 X-PGP-DH-DSSkey: http://www.nectar.com/nectar-dh-dss.txt From: Jacques Vidrine To: Mike Smith Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199911071936.LAA13471@dingo.cdrom.com> References: <199911071936.LAA13471@dingo.cdrom.com> Subject: Re: hang at probing devices screen on VAIO505 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 07 Nov 1999 17:19:58 -0600 Message-Id: <19991107231958.B8CBA1D7A@bone.nectar.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 7 November 1999 at 11:36, Mike Smith wrote: > Turn off the 'memory stick' device in the BIOS setup screen. It > appears that on those machines it either lookes like an IDE device, or > at least lives in that address range, and gets our probes all in a tizz. Actually sysinstall gets confused when it tries to read its disklabel (which must fail, because there is no memory card in the slot). I think this is brain damage in the VAIO -- it is as if the memory card slot is not a removable device ... But yes, as Mike says, the work around is to disable it during the install. -- Jacques Vidrine / n@nectar.com / nectar@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Nov 7 15:30:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from alcanet.com.au (border.alcanet.com.au [203.62.196.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 785D2150E0 for ; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 15:30:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jeremyp@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au) Received: by border.alcanet.com.au id <40358>; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 10:24:26 +1100 Content-return: prohibited Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 10:29:39 +1100 From: Peter Jeremy Subject: Re: CTM updates In-reply-to: <199911061344.AAA55740@ares.maths.adelaide.edu.au> To: Greg Lewis Cc: Stephen Montgomery-Smith , FreeBSD Stable Reply-To: peter.jeremy@alcatel.com.au Message-Id: <99Nov8.102426est.40358@border.alcanet.com.au> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3i Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii References: <3821BD8B.91CD0F40@math.missouri.edu> <199911061344.AAA55740@ares.maths.adelaide.edu.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG CTM has been down since 2nd November. The last e-mail delta I received was cvs-cur 5804. Chuck Robey is in the process of correcting the problem and has suggested (on cvs-announce) that it should be back later today. Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Nov 7 17:30:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from goshen.rutgers.edu (goshen.rutgers.edu [165.230.180.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8514150F8 for ; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 17:30:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from damascus@eden.rutgers.edu) Received: from damascus (damascus.dorm.rutgers.edu [165.230.0.68]) by goshen.rutgers.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA02391 for ; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 20:30:11 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19991107202551.00c07220@email.eden.rutgers.edu> X-Sender: damascus@email.eden.rutgers.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Sun, 07 Nov 1999 20:30:48 -0500 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Carroll Kong Subject: Will Dump, backup to a file? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi. I am using FreeBSD 3.3-Release, and I wanted to know if I can do this dump -0 /opt/tmp/varback.dmp /var (where /opt/tmp is some other free slice) The situation is, I have an old celeron machine, and we are getting a new server. However, we want to move the freebsd setup we have from an ide drive to the new scsi drive we are getting. We do not have a tape backup. We just want to copy from one harddrive to another. So, my original plan was to boot back up with the old ide drive on the new server, either using cp -aR or tar the old file systems into the new drive which we will mount. Or, just reinstall a fresh freebsd setup on the scsi drive, and copy back the old data. However, dump seems to be the real answer here, however, everyone seems to talk about how it works on tape drives. I dont' want to see it wipe out any of my file systems, so I want to make sure this will work. Even though everything in UNIX is a file, I am not sure if it will work? Thanks in advance. -Carroll Kong To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Nov 7 17:45:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from panzer.kdm.org (panzer.kdm.org [216.160.178.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBFA6150F8 for ; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 17:45:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ken@panzer.kdm.org) Received: (from ken@localhost) by panzer.kdm.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id SAA02184; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 18:45:18 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from ken) Message-Id: <199911080145.SAA02184@panzer.kdm.org> Subject: Re: Will Dump, backup to a file? In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.19991107202551.00c07220@email.eden.rutgers.edu> from Carroll Kong at "Nov 7, 1999 08:30:48 pm" To: damascus@eden.rutgers.edu (Carroll Kong) Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 18:45:18 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Kenneth D. Merry" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Carroll Kong wrote... > Hi. I am using FreeBSD 3.3-Release, and I wanted to know if I can do this > > dump -0 /opt/tmp/varback.dmp /var > > (where /opt/tmp is some other free slice) > > The situation is, I have an old celeron machine, and we are getting a new > server. However, we want to move the freebsd setup we have from an ide > drive to the new scsi drive we are getting. We do not have a tape > backup. We just want to copy from one harddrive to another. So, my > original plan was to boot back up with the old ide drive on the new server, > either using cp -aR or tar the old file systems into the new drive which we > will mount. Or, just reinstall a fresh freebsd setup on the scsi drive, > and copy back the old data. However, dump seems to be the real answer > here, however, everyone seems to talk about how it works on tape drives. I > dont' want to see it wipe out any of my file systems, so I want to make > sure this will work. Even though everything in UNIX is a file, I am not > sure if it will work? Thanks in advance. What you want is probably: dump -0f - /var > /opt/tmp/varback.dmp The reason for using stdout is to disable the tape length calculations. The -a switch should do the same thing. You can then restore from the dump image using restore(8). You can also copy 'live' from one disk to another. You could do something like this: [ fdisk, disklabel, newfs partitions for the new disk ] [ mount the new root partition as /new ] dump -0f - / | '(cd /new && restore -rf -)' [ now mount the new /usr partition as /new/usr ] dump -0f - /usr | '(cd /new/usr && restore -rf -)' [ and so on for more filesystems ] Ken -- Kenneth Merry ken@kdm.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Nov 7 19:20:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from blaubaer.kn-bremen.de (blaubaer.kn-bremen.de [195.37.179.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5565A1509D for ; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 19:20:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nox@saturn.kn-bremen.de) Received: from saturn.kn-bremen.de (uucp@localhost) by blaubaer.kn-bremen.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with UUCP id EAA01077; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 04:18:59 +0100 Received: (from nox@localhost) by saturn.kn-bremen.de (8.9.3/8.8.5) id EAA12035; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 04:17:07 +0100 (MET) From: Juergen Lock Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 04:17:06 +0100 To: Mike Smith Cc: zzhang@cs.binghamton.edu, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: easyboot far into disk Message-ID: <19991108041705.A11213@saturn.kn-bremen.de> References: <19991107035454.B59629@saturn.kn-bremen.de> <199911071957.LAA13619@dingo.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.7i In-Reply-To: <199911071957.LAA13619@dingo.cdrom.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Nov 07, 1999 at 11:57:26AM -0800, Mike Smith wrote: > > > Rootdev ought to work, actually. But if you get it wrong, the loader > > > will fall back to using currdev. > > > > Hmm then thats strange. I first tried rootdev, which didn't work, and > > then later currdev, which did work, and i believe i used the same value > > both times! Or was rootdev fixed only recently, the boot floppies i > > had lying around and tested this on weren't the latest... > > I thought rootdev was fixed a long time back. If it's not, please tell > me and I'll fix it again. 8) How long back? Guess i have to try a more recent version... > > > > (Maybe this should be added to the FAQ as a method of last resort when > > > > the BIOS boot code can't see above cyl 1024?) > > > > > > From what I've been hearing from people lately, in most cases it's 8GB > > > that's the new sound barrier, > > > > Yea, probably true with later boards. (anyone know if there's a > > real technical reason for that, or just again short-sightedness of > > the BIOS writers? I mean first 32M if i remember right, then 512M, > > then 2G, now 8G... shouldn't everyone know by now that disks are > > getting bigger all the time?) > > It's a limitation of the c/h/s interface and the practical translations > available. Over 8GB we finally have to use LBA mode; the problem there > is that there's still too much legacy hardware out there that will > break if we default to it. It breaks? It doesn't just return an error so you can fall back to the old interface? Or is the problem that there's just not enough space in boot0 for both versions? Regards, -- Juergen Lock (remove dot foo from address to reply) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Nov 7 21:49: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from luna.lyris.net (luna.shelby.com [207.90.155.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3567614ED0 for ; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 21:49:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kip@lyris.com) Received: from luna.shelby.com by luna.lyris.net (8.9.1b+Sun/SMI-SVR4) id VAA10113; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 21:48:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from (luna.shelby.com [207.90.155.6]) by luna.shelby.com with SMTP (MailShield v1.50); Sun, 07 Nov 1999 21:48:04 -0700 Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 21:48:03 -0800 (PST) From: Kip Macy X-Sender: kip@luna To: Jacques Vidrine Cc: Mike Smith , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: hang at probing devices screen on VAIO505 In-Reply-To: <19991107231958.B8CBA1D7A@bone.nectar.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-SMTP-HELO: luna X-SMTP-MAIL-FROM: kip@lyris.com X-SMTP-RCPT-TO: n@nectar.com,mike@smith.net.au,freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-SMTP-PEER-INFO: luna.shelby.com [207.90.155.6] Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks to all. I will do that. I was seriously worried that I might have to install Linux. -Kip On Sun, 7 Nov 1999, Jacques Vidrine wrote: > On 7 November 1999 at 11:36, Mike Smith wrote: > > Turn off the 'memory stick' device in the BIOS setup screen. It > > appears that on those machines it either lookes like an IDE device, or > > at least lives in that address range, and gets our probes all in a tizz. > > Actually sysinstall gets confused when it tries to read its disklabel > (which must fail, because there is no memory card in the slot). I think > this is brain damage in the VAIO -- it is as if the memory card slot is > not a removable device ... > > But yes, as Mike says, the work around is to disable it during the > install. > -- > Jacques Vidrine / n@nectar.com / nectar@FreeBSD.org > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Nov 7 21:53:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D02814ED0 for ; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 21:53:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (doconnor@cain [203.38.152.97]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA02180; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 16:23:01 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3.1 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 08 Nov 1999 16:23:01 +1030 (CST) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: Kip Macy Subject: Re: hang at probing devices screen on VAIO505 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Mike Smith , Jacques Vidrine Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 08-Nov-99 Kip Macy wrote: > Thanks to all. I will do that. I was seriously worried that I might have > to install Linux. Heh.. Linux has the same problem :) --- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Nov 7 22:56:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sal1.yamalinfo.ru (sal1.yamalinfo.ru [195.133.157.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32F5B14E14 for ; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 22:56:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vorob@yamalinfo.ru) Received: from t34.yamalinfo.ru (t34.yamalinfo.ru [195.133.157.7]) by sal1.yamalinfo.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA11362 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 11:56:35 +0500 (ES) (envelope-from vorob@yamalinfo.ru) Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 11:56:34 +0500 From: Yuri Vorobyev X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.36) S/N 12345678 Reply-To: Yuri Vorobyev X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <4497.991108@yamalinfo.ru> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: ccd performance degradation & reboot problem Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------61EB9544ED4" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ------------61EB9544ED4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello! I have made some tests with bonnie. 3.1-RELEASE -------Sequential Output-------- ---Sequential Input-- --Random-- -Per Char- --Block--- -Rewrite-- -Per Char- --Block--- --Seeks--- Machine MB K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU /sec %CPU 100 10085 83.9 13683 38.7 4808 15.5 7716 75.0 14429 26.2 213.7 4.4 FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE #0: Mon Nov 8 -------Sequential Output-------- ---Sequential Input-- --Random-- -Per Char- --Block--- -Rewrite-- -Per Char- --Block--- --Seeks--- Machine MB K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU /sec %CPU 100 1866 16.1 1802 4.3 1828 6.1 8177 80.1 14384 25.7 213.8 5.2 Kernel config was the same. Write speed has fallen very much!! And second problem: this computer (IBM PC server 315) wan't reboot #reboot syncing disks... done (da1:ahc0:0:1:0) SYNCHRONIZE CACHE: CDB: 35 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 (da1:ahc0:0:1:0) ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:20,0 (da1:ahc0:0:1:0) invalid command operation code sks:c0,0 Rebooting... or #reboot syncing disks... done (da1:ahc0:0:1:0) SYNCHRONIZE CACHE: CDB: 35 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 (da1:ahc0:0:1:0) error code 9 Rebooting... Error code change randomly (?) And freeze... System have ADAPTEC 2940 ULTRA / ULTRA W BIOS v1.25 BROKEN_KEYBOARD_RESET i already tried -- Yuri Vorobyev www.yamalinfo.ru ------------61EB9544ED4 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="kernel.conf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="kernel.conf" IwojIEdFTkVSSUMgLS0gR2VuZXJpYyBtYWNoaW5lIHdpdGggV0QvQUh4L05DUi9CVHggZmFtaWx5 IGRpc2tzCiMKIyBGb3IgbW9yZSBpbmZvcm1hdGlvbiByZWFkIHRoZSBoYW5kYm9vayBwYXJ0IFN5 c3RlbSBBZG1pbmlzdHJhdGlvbiAtPiAKIyBDb25maWd1cmluZyB0aGUgRnJlZUJTRCBLZXJuZWwg LT4gVGhlIENvbmZpZ3VyYXRpb24gRmlsZS4gCiMgVGhlIGhhbmRib29rIGlzIGF2YWlsYWJsZSBp biAvdXNyL3NoYXJlL2RvYy9oYW5kYm9vayBvciBvbmxpbmUgYXMKIyBsYXRlc3QgdmVyc2lvbiBm cm9tIHRoZSBGcmVlQlNEIFdvcmxkIFdpZGUgV2ViIHNlcnZlciAKIyA8VVJMOmh0dHA6Ly93d3cu RnJlZUJTRC5PUkcvPgojCiMgQW4gZXhoYXVzdGl2ZSBsaXN0IG9mIG9wdGlvbnMgYW5kIG1vcmUg ZGV0YWlsZWQgZXhwbGFuYXRpb25zIG9mIHRoZSAKIyBkZXZpY2UgbGluZXMgaXMgcHJlc2VudCBp biB0aGUgLi9MSU5UIGNvbmZpZ3VyYXRpb24gZmlsZS4gSWYgeW91IGFyZSAKIyBpbiBkb3VidCBh 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send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Nov 8 2: 3:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC5C1151EC for ; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 02:03:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com (p04-dn01kiryunisiki.gunma.ocn.ne.jp [210.132.6.133]) by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN) with ESMTP id TAA05356; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 19:03:07 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <382682AE.86B03706@newsguy.com> Date: Mon, 08 Nov 1999 16:58:38 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Roelof Osinga Cc: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: easyboot far into disk References: <199911062057.MAA07266@dingo.cdrom.com> <3825A36E.5920209D@nisser.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Roelof Osinga wrote: > > > > - the install disks could be used to access ones root disk > > > > They can. > > So people keep telling me. I spend over a week on it an I tell you > they can't. Not in any sensible way, that is. Compared to this, say, > Linux is pure bliss. You pop in the disk enter the root and you're off. > Better yet, the process is described in the installation README. Even > a newbie can do that, especially with some handholding. Mmmmm.... how about: 1) boot the installation disks until sysinstall comes up. 2) select the Fixit option (the one that mentiones a shell, y'know) on the main menu. Granted, this requires either a fixit disk (you got mfsroot and kern, right? it should be easy to get the fixit) or the cd-rom (I expect most newbies to have a cd-rom available) for you to be able to access the root disk "in a sensible way". (You'd otherwise have to go to Custom/Disklabel/Commit, which is... scary. :-) -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org What y'all wanna do? Wanna be hackers? Code crackers? Slackers Wastin' time with all the chatroom yakkers? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Nov 8 6:24:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nisser.com (c1870039.telekabel.chello.nl [212.187.0.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 235C0150C1 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 06:24:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from roelof@nisser.com) Received: from nisser.com (roelof [10.0.0.2]) by nisser.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA30763; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 15:30:30 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from roelof@nisser.com) Message-ID: <3826DD4C.9BD9E93@nisser.com> Date: Mon, 08 Nov 1999 15:25:16 +0100 From: Roelof Osinga Organization: eboa - engineering buro Office Automation X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Daniel C. Sobral" Cc: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: easyboot far into disk References: <199911062057.MAA07266@dingo.cdrom.com> <3825A36E.5920209D@nisser.com> <382682AE.86B03706@newsguy.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Daniel C. Sobral" wrote: > > Mmmmm.... how about: > > 1) boot the installation disks until sysinstall comes up. > 2) select the Fixit option (the one that mentiones a shell, y'know) > on the main menu. Alas, won't work. Root is most definitely not the root on the hard disk. You can do thing within the fixit environment but not much else. Also the fixit option is part of the installation menu. A menu that when you exit it reboots the machine. > Granted, this requires either a fixit disk (you got mfsroot and > kern, right? it should be easy to get the fixit) or the cd-rom (I > expect most newbies to have a cd-rom available) for you to be able > to access the root disk "in a sensible way". Actually, I usually install Linuxes and BSDs by FTP, but never mind, I do have a fixit disk. > (You'd otherwise have to go to Custom/Disklabel/Commit, which is... > scary. :-) This is more a leven I can relate too . Actually I'm going to try another tack. I wiped the disk and will now see if I can get it to install, and boot, using raw geometry. This by creating two partitions. The first small enough to reside in first 1024 cyls, holding but one slice with the root partition. The other covering the rest of the disk and containing the rest of the usual slices. Theoretically it ought to work. The question is is the install flexible enough to allow one to create multiple partitions as well as the needed slices within those partitions. There's one way to find out . Roelof -- Home is where the (@) http://eboa.com/ is. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Nov 8 7:30:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D67515216 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 07:30:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com (p16-dn02kiryunisiki.gunma.ocn.ne.jp [210.163.200.113]) by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN) with ESMTP id AAA02095; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 00:30:05 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <3826EBF5.6FD7794D@newsguy.com> Date: Tue, 09 Nov 1999 00:27:49 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Roelof Osinga Cc: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: easyboot far into disk References: <199911062057.MAA07266@dingo.cdrom.com> <3825A36E.5920209D@nisser.com> <382682AE.86B03706@newsguy.com> <3826DD4C.9BD9E93@nisser.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Roelof Osinga wrote: > > > 1) boot the installation disks until sysinstall comes up. > > 2) select the Fixit option (the one that mentiones a shell, y'know) > > on the main menu. > > Alas, won't work. Root is most definitely not the root on the hard > disk. You can do thing within the fixit environment but not much > else. Also the fixit option is part of the installation menu. A menu > that when you exit it reboots the machine. mount wd0a /mnt? Is it too much typing for you? > This is more a leven I can relate too . Actually I'm going to try > another tack. I wiped the disk and will now see if I can get it to > install, and boot, using raw geometry. This by creating two partitions. > The first small enough to reside in first 1024 cyls, holding but > one slice with the root partition. The other covering the rest of > the disk and containing the rest of the usual slices. You mean two _slices_, one on the first 1024, and the other at the end of the disk containing the usual _partitions_ (FreeBSD terminoloy -- not getting religious here, just clarifying)? This is a common work-around. > Theoretically it ought to work. The question is is the install flexible > enough to allow one to create multiple partitions as well as the needed > slices within those partitions. AFAIK, it should be relatively trivial. -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org What y'all wanna do? Wanna be hackers? Code crackers? Slackers Wastin' time with all the chatroom yakkers? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Nov 8 7:40:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nisser.com (c1870039.telekabel.chello.nl [212.187.0.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D20191521D for ; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 07:40:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from roelof@nisser.com) Received: from nisser.com (roelof [10.0.0.2]) by nisser.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id QAA31207; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 16:45:52 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from roelof@nisser.com) Message-ID: <3826EEF6.4F676BCD@nisser.com> Date: Mon, 08 Nov 1999 16:40:38 +0100 From: Roelof Osinga Organization: eboa - engineering buro Office Automation X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Daniel C. Sobral" Cc: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: easyboot far into disk References: <199911062057.MAA07266@dingo.cdrom.com> <3825A36E.5920209D@nisser.com> <382682AE.86B03706@newsguy.com> <3826DD4C.9BD9E93@nisser.com> <3826EBF5.6FD7794D@newsguy.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Daniel C. Sobral" wrote: > > mount wd0a /mnt? Is it too much typing for you? And then they tell *me* to stop being sarcastic! HAH! Since when, pray tell, does root reside below mnt? > You mean two _slices_, one on the first 1024, and the other at the > end of the disk containing the usual _partitions_ (FreeBSD > terminoloy -- not getting religious here, just clarifying)? This is > a common work-around. Nope, I mean two *partitions*. You see, *I* did RTFM. FYI what you suggest is nonsense. Won't work since that is not the way things work. Would work in, say, Linux, not in FreeBSD. Nor, I think but it's been awhile, in OpenBSD. > AFAIK, it should be relatively trivial. Since we're clearly talking about two different topice I can but agree that what you've got in mind is relatively trivial. Roelof -- Home is where the (@) http://eboa.com/ is. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Nov 8 7:50:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA01C14D1B for ; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 07:50:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com (p16-dn02kiryunisiki.gunma.ocn.ne.jp [210.163.200.113]) by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN) with ESMTP id AAA08649; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 00:49:44 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <3826F082.1CDFAC78@newsguy.com> Date: Tue, 09 Nov 1999 00:47:14 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Roelof Osinga Cc: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: easyboot far into disk References: <199911062057.MAA07266@dingo.cdrom.com> <3825A36E.5920209D@nisser.com> <382682AE.86B03706@newsguy.com> <3826DD4C.9BD9E93@nisser.com> <3826EBF5.6FD7794D@newsguy.com> <3826EEF6.4F676BCD@nisser.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Roelof Osinga wrote: > > "Daniel C. Sobral" wrote: > > > > mount wd0a /mnt? Is it too much typing for you? > > And then they tell *me* to stop being sarcastic! HAH! Since when, pray > tell, does root reside below mnt? /me sighs mount wd0a /mnt mount /mnt/dev/wd... /... chroot /mnt > > You mean two _slices_, one on the first 1024, and the other at the > > end of the disk containing the usual _partitions_ (FreeBSD > > terminoloy -- not getting religious here, just clarifying)? This is > > a common work-around. > > Nope, I mean two *partitions*. You see, *I* did RTFM. > > FYI what you suggest is nonsense. Won't work since that is not the > way things work. Would work in, say, Linux, not in FreeBSD. Nor, I > think but it's been awhile, in OpenBSD. Sure it works. Eg: First slice: FreeBSD on low cylinders Second slice: Other Operating System Third slice: FreeBSD on high cylinders mount /dev/wd0s1a / mount -t whatever /dev/wd0s2 /otheroperatingsystem mount /dev/wd0s3f /usr mount /dev/wd0s3... ... -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org What y'all wanna do? Wanna be hackers? Code crackers? Slackers Wastin' time with all the chatroom yakkers? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Nov 8 11:36:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from www.geocrawler.com (sourceforge.net [209.81.8.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 555751528C for ; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 11:36:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nobody@www.geocrawler.com) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by www.geocrawler.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA05446; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 11:36:34 -0800 Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 11:36:34 -0800 Message-Id: <199911081936.LAA05446@www.geocrawler.com> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Which files are obsolete? From: "Juan Kuuse" Reply-To: "Juan Kuuse" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This message was sent from Geocrawler.com by "Juan Kuuse" Be sure to reply to that address. I have two 3.1-RELEASE boxes. I successfully upgraded one of them to 3.3-STABLE, following the tutorial instructions by Nik Clayton. When I try do do the same on the other one, it compiles for a long while, then the /usr partition fills up. I deleted the /usr/obj directory, the /usr/ports directory, and symlinked /tmp -> /var/tmp Still, before make buildworld, I start with: (3.1-RELEASE box) $ df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/wd0s1a 31743 19580 9624 67% / /dev/wd0s1f 1080887 852993 141424 86% /usr /dev/wd0s1e 29751 7629 19742 28% /var procfs 4 4 0 100% /proc which seems to be too little disk space on /usr for an upgrade? On the other box (3.3-STABLE), I also deleted the /usr/obj and the /usr/ports directories, but there are more packages installed on that box. Still, I'm left with significantly more disk space: (3.3-STABLE box) $ df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/wd0s1a 31743 24758 4446 85% / /dev/wd0s1f 1107925 737998 281293 72% /usr /dev/wd0s1e 29751 12051 15320 44% /var procfs 4 4 0 100% /proc So, where do I start to look for obsolete files, or files that I can safely remove without doing any harm on the 3.1-RELEASE box? Does the make buildworld create other temporary files which are needed to remove before giving it a new try? Any suggestions are appreciated. Please send a copy to kuuse@quik.guate.com /Juan Kuuse Geocrawler.com - The Knowledge Archive To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Nov 8 11:40:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from probity.mcc.ac.uk (probity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C77814BEB for ; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 11:40:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jcm@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97]) by probity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #3) id 11kue4-000Mke-00; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 19:40:04 +0000 Received: from localhost (jcm@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA09718; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 19:40:04 GMT (envelope-from jcm@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org) Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 19:40:04 +0000 (GMT) From: Jonathon McKitrick To: Juan Kuuse Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Which files are obsolete? In-Reply-To: <199911081936.LAA05446@www.geocrawler.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Try 'make clean' from the /usr/src directory. On Mon, 8 Nov 1999, Juan Kuuse wrote: >So, where do I start to look for obsolete files, or files that I can safely remove without doing any harm on the 3.1-RELEASE box? >Does the make buildworld create other temporary files which are needed to remove before giving it a new try? -jonathon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Nov 8 11:58: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 758) id 63F7C152E4; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 11:57:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 427E61CD472; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 11:57:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@hub.freebsd.org) Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 11:57:46 -0800 (PST) From: Kris Kennaway To: Jonathon McKitrick Cc: Juan Kuuse , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Which files are obsolete? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 8 Nov 1999, Jonathon McKitrick wrote: > Try 'make clean' from the /usr/src directory. make buildworld will already do this :-) Doing something like 'du /usr | sort -n" to find where your space is being used might be useful. Doing a binary upgrade would take much less space, though, and that might be a better option. Kris ---- Cthulhu for President! For when you're tired of choosing the _lesser_ of two evils.. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Nov 8 12:36:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dialup422.apex.dp.ua (dialup422.apex.dp.ua [195.24.155.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A8D914EF8 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 12:36:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from voland@dialup422.apex.dp.ua) Received: (from voland@localhost) by dialup422.apex.dp.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA70143; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 22:35:19 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from voland) Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit X-Comment-To: Yuri Vorobyev To: Yuri Vorobyev Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ccd performance degradation & reboot problem References: <4497.991108@yamalinfo.ru> From: Vadim Belman In-Reply-To: Yuri Vorobyev's message of "Mon, 8 Nov 1999 11:56:34 +0500" Date: 08 Nov 1999 22:34:38 +0200 Message-ID: <85zowoiuxt.fsf@dialup422.apex.dp.ua> Lines: 69 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.7/Emacs 20.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Yuri! On 08 Nov 99 at 08:56, "Yuri" (Yuri Vorobyev) wrote: Yuri> I have made some tests with bonnie. Yuri> 3.1-RELEASE -------Sequential Output-------- ---Sequential Input-- Yuri> --Random-- -Per Char- --Block--- -Rewrite-- -Per Char- --Block--- Yuri> --Seeks--- Machine MB K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU Yuri> K/sec %CPU /sec %CPU 100 10085 83.9 13683 38.7 4808 15.5 7716 75.0 Yuri> 14429 26.2 213.7 4.4 Yuri> FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE #0: Mon Nov 8 Yuri> -------Sequential Output-------- ---Sequential Input-- Yuri> --Random-- -Per Char- --Block--- -Rewrite-- -Per Char- --Block--- Yuri> --Seeks--- Machine MB K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU Yuri> K/sec %CPU /sec %CPU 100 1866 16.1 1802 4.3 1828 6.1 8177 80.1 14384 Yuri> 25.7 213.8 5.2 Yuri> Kernel config was the same. Yuri> Write speed has fallen very much!! This may not be related to the problem's cause, but I usually try different interleave factors using a script which records bonnie's output for later analysis. Differences are significant for various interleaves, but never falls below actual drive speed. So, this rather looks like a wrong way but may be useful information in future. (BTW, my ccd uses interleave factor of 256 and used to be 512 in previous configuration. Both values based on benchmark results.) You may also make sure that you didn't check your da0 drive second time. 8) There are few perfomance issues about IBM DCAS drives. Yuri> syncing disks... done (da1:ahc0:0:1:0) SYNCHRONIZE CACHE: CDB: 35 0 Yuri> 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 (da1:ahc0:0:1:0) ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:20,0 Yuri> (da1:ahc0:0:1:0) invalid command operation code sks:c0,0 Yuri> Rebooting... Yuri> or Yuri> #reboot Yuri> syncing disks... done (da1:ahc0:0:1:0) SYNCHRONIZE CACHE: CDB: 35 0 Yuri> 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 (da1:ahc0:0:1:0) error code 9 Rebooting... Yuri> Error code change randomly (?) Yuri> And freeze... Have you had a look on server's console during benchmarking? I'd expect some SCSI-related error messages on it. You may suffer either from hardware problems or from a driver bug. The second possibility seems to be rather improbable. But the first one is practically definite. Check your cable connection, run SCSI BIOS hardware test. I.e. make sure that da1 works properly. Or not... Yuri> System have ADAPTEC 2940 ULTRA / ULTRA W BIOS v1.25 Ahm, I read some recomendations about upgrading SCSI BIOS to any of 1.3x version. Actually it's been done for my board. -- /Voland Vadim Belman E-mail: voland@plab.ku.dk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Nov 8 15:24:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gateway.internal.inetking.com (bwoodruff.caltel.com [205.214.42.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A3A8152F3 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 15:24:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jon@jons.org) Received: from EXODUS (exodus.internal.inetking.com [192.168.0.4]) by gateway.internal.inetking.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA11363 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 15:25:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jon@jons.org) From: "Jon Christopherson" To: Subject: DELL Poweredge RAID controller Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 16:26:22 -0800 Message-ID: <000b01bf2a49$0cd443c0$0400a8c0@internal.inetking.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello all, I am upgrading my Web server to a DELL Poweredge 4300 series Server. I was wondering if there is support or plans to be support added to 3.3-STABLE for the AMI MegaRAID(Original Manufacturer of the Poweredge RAID card) controller ? as of 3.3-REL it wasn't supported :(. I am trying my best to not have to go install RedHat or slackware( wich support the Card) cause I just love FreeBSD hehe . Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks! Jon Christopherson Jon@jons.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Nov 8 15:40:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BEBB14BC9 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 15:40:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA00992; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 15:30:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199911082330.PAA00992@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Jon Christopherson" Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DELL Poweredge RAID controller In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 08 Nov 1999 16:26:22 PST." <000b01bf2a49$0cd443c0$0400a8c0@internal.inetking.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 08 Nov 1999 15:30:30 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The Dell PERC and PERC 2/SC will be supported in 3.4. The PERC 2 is an Adaptec card and there's no idea yet when we will be supporting it. I hope to have an early version of the AMI support for 3-stable by the end of the week, but Comdex may suck too much time for that. > I am upgrading my Web server to a DELL Poweredge 4300 series Server. I was > wondering if there is support or plans to be support added to 3.3-STABLE for > the AMI MegaRAID(Original Manufacturer of the Poweredge RAID card) > controller ? as of 3.3-REL it wasn't supported :(. I am trying my best to > not have to go install RedHat or slackware( wich support the Card) cause I > just love FreeBSD hehe . Any help would be greatly appreciated! > > Thanks! > > Jon Christopherson > Jon@jons.org > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > -- \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Nov 8 17: 2:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1A481523D for ; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 17:02:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA47466; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 17:01:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 17:01:46 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Roelof Osinga Cc: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: easyboot far into disk Message-ID: <19991108170146.B47320@relay.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: <199911062057.MAA07266@dingo.cdrom.com> <3825A36E.5920209D@nisser.com> <382682AE.86B03706@newsguy.com> <3826DD4C.9BD9E93@nisser.com> <3826EBF5.6FD7794D@newsguy.com> <3826EEF6.4F676BCD@nisser.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre1i In-Reply-To: <3826EEF6.4F676BCD@nisser.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > mount wd0a /mnt? Is it too much typing for you? > > HAH! Since when, pray tell, does root reside below mnt? When you are mis-calling the partition on a drive you didn't boot from, "root". To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Nov 8 17:14:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nisser.com (c1870039.telekabel.chello.nl [212.187.0.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F036B15374; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 17:14:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from roelof@nisser.com) Received: from nisser.com (roelof [10.0.0.2]) by nisser.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id CAA35017; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 02:20:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from roelof@nisser.com) Message-ID: <382775A9.332E96A8@nisser.com> Date: Tue, 09 Nov 1999 02:15:21 +0100 From: Roelof Osinga Organization: eboa - engineering buro Office Automation X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: easyboot far into disk References: <199911062057.MAA07266@dingo.cdrom.com> <3825A36E.5920209D@nisser.com> <382682AE.86B03706@newsguy.com> <3826DD4C.9BD9E93@nisser.com> <3826EBF5.6FD7794D@newsguy.com> <3826EEF6.4F676BCD@nisser.com> <19991108170146.B47320@relay.nuxi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG David O'Brien wrote: > > When you are mis-calling the partition on a drive you didn't boot from, > "root". Touche Roelof PS glad to be able to report the box is up and running. With the raw geometry no less. Probably indeed some bug in the BIOS that prevented it to work correctly with any other geometry. Two slices fixed all. -- Home is where the (@) http://eboa.com/ is. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Nov 8 18:52:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.243.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4869C14F8D for ; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 18:52:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA19021 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 03:52:26 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from olli) Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 03:52:26 +0100 (CET) From: Oliver Fromme Message-Id: <199911090252.DAA19021@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: sysinstall bug? Organization: Administration Heim 3 Reply-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 RZTUC(3) PL2] Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Last week I installed FreeBSD 3.3-stable at a friend (to be exact: the 19991101 snapshot, which was the most current one at that time). Everything went smoothly, but there was one thing which made me wonder... Personally, I never use sysinstall to change any settings, but I edit /etc/rc.conf directly. However, that friend comes from the Windows/Linux camp and is used to use GUIs and stuff (he also uses Midnight Commander as root *shudder*), so he used sysinstall to change various settings. Well, that's OK. But when I had a look at the system later that day, I noticed that /etc/rc.conf had gotten longer and longer. Each time he ran sysinstall, it obviously appended a line like this: # -- sysinstall generated deltas -- # and then blindly appended the new settings. This resulted in a lot of duplicate (and contradictory) entries. Of course, it worked (because the latest entries override the preceding ones), but the whole file was a great mess. Now my question is: Isn't sysinstall supposed to look for existing entries in /etc/rc.conf and _replace_ them, instead of always appending? What purpose does that "generated deltas" line have? Did we do anything wrong? Should I send patches? :) Regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, Leibnizstr. 18/61, 38678 Clausthal, Germany (Info: finger userinfo:olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) "In jedem Stück Kohle wartet ein Diamant auf seine Geburt" (Terry Pratchett) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Nov 8 19:11:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from loanslive.net (loanslive.net [216.103.11.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DA0014BF2 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 19:11:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vValenti@LoansLive.Com) Received: from VVALENTICOMP (liveloans.com [216.103.11.130]) by loanslive.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA40964 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 19:06:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vValenti@LoansLive.Com) Message-ID: <02ee01bf2a5f$5a15a190$e100000a@VVALENTICOMP> From: "Vince Valenti" To: Subject: Help with ifconfig Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 19:05:58 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.5500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It's probably something blatantly obvious, but I can't seem to make aliases for an interface. When I type: # ifconfig ed1 inet 10.0.0.10 netmask 255.255.255.0 I get no errors. However, when I type this: # ifconfig ed1 inet 10.0.0.11 netmask 255.255.255.0 alias ifconfig: ioctl (SIOCAIFADDR): File exists I get the above error. Does anyone have any idea what I'm doing wrong? Thanks, Vince Valenti Senior Technical Engineer vValenti@LoansLive.Com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Nov 8 19:14: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from jade.chc-chimes.com (jade.chc-chimes.com [216.28.46.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0944514A27 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 19:14:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from billf@chc-chimes.com) Received: by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 1D1F01C4D; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 21:15:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18BB9381B; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 21:15:55 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 21:15:55 -0500 (EST) From: Bill Fumerola To: Vince Valenti Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help with ifconfig In-Reply-To: <02ee01bf2a5f$5a15a190$e100000a@VVALENTICOMP> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 8 Nov 1999, Vince Valenti wrote: > # ifconfig ed1 inet 10.0.0.11 netmask 255.255.255.0 alias > ifconfig: ioctl (SIOCAIFADDR): File exists netmask 255.255.255.255 -- - bill fumerola - billf@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfumerol@computerhorizons.com - billf@FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Nov 8 19:22:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from binnacle.wantabe.com (binnacle.wantabe.com [209.16.8.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E61D514FB0 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 19:22:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jeffrl@wantabe.com) Received: from localhost (jeffrl@localhost) by binnacle.wantabe.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id VAA39273; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 21:22:11 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from jeffrl@wantabe.com) X-Authentication-Warning: binnacle.wantabe.com: jeffrl owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 21:22:11 -0600 (CST) From: "Jeffrey J. Libman" To: Vince Valenti Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Help with ifconfig In-Reply-To: <02ee01bf2a5f$5a15a190$e100000a@VVALENTICOMP> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG this is normal. if you netstat -I ed1, you should see that the ip is there. i believe this happens because the interface is already ifconfig'd...but works. i use lo0 for my virtual hosting...it avoids the error message and works fine. cheers, jeff | |\ +------------------------------+ Jeffrey J. Libman, ops. mgr. | \ | Wantabe Internet Services | Wantabe, Inc. |__\ +------------------------------+ jeffrl@wantabe.com <-----|------> | access web cgi ftp news mail | (281) 493-0718 __,.-=\'`^`'~=-../__,.-= +------------------------------+ On Mon, 8 Nov 1999, Vince Valenti wrote: > It's probably something blatantly obvious, but I can't seem to make aliases > for an interface. > > When I type: > > # ifconfig ed1 inet 10.0.0.10 netmask 255.255.255.0 > > I get no errors. However, when I type this: > > # ifconfig ed1 inet 10.0.0.11 netmask 255.255.255.0 alias > ifconfig: ioctl (SIOCAIFADDR): File exists > > I get the above error. > > Does anyone have any idea what I'm doing wrong? > > Thanks, > > Vince Valenti > Senior Technical Engineer > vValenti@LoansLive.Com > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Nov 8 22:31: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.dbitech.bc.ca (i.caniserv.com [139.142.95.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D5D7514E59 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 22:30:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from darcy@ok-connect.com) Received: (qmail 18387 invoked from network); 9 Nov 1999 06:30:51 -0000 Received: from ccliii.caniserv.com (HELO dbitech) (darcyb@139.142.95.253) by 139.142.95.10 with SMTP; 9 Nov 1999 06:30:51 -0000 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19991108223124.00c51650@mail.ok-connect.com> X-Sender: darcyb@mail.ok-connect.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Mon, 08 Nov 1999 22:31:24 -0800 To: From: Darcy Buskermolen Subject: Re: Help with ifconfig Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG try: ifconfig ed1 alias 10.0.0.11 netmask 255.255.255.255 At 07:05 PM 11/8/99 -0800, Vince Valenti wrote: >It's probably something blatantly obvious, but I can't seem to make aliases >for an interface. > >When I type: > ># ifconfig ed1 inet 10.0.0.10 netmask 255.255.255.0 > >I get no errors. However, when I type this: > ># ifconfig ed1 inet 10.0.0.11 netmask 255.255.255.0 alias >ifconfig: ioctl (SIOCAIFADDR): File exists > >I get the above error. > >Does anyone have any idea what I'm doing wrong? > >Thanks, > >Vince Valenti >Senior Technical Engineer >vValenti@LoansLive.Com > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Nov 8 23: 0:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from david.siemens.de (david.siemens.de [192.35.17.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9F5A14E55 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 23:00:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de) X-Envelope-Sender-Is: andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de (at relayer david.siemens.de) Received: from mail2.siemens.de (mail2.siemens.de [139.25.208.11]) by david.siemens.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA12877 for ; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 08:00:44 +0100 (MET) Received: from curry.mchp.siemens.de (curry.mchp.siemens.de [139.25.42.7]) by mail2.siemens.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA10496 for ; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 08:00:44 +0100 (MET) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by curry.mchp.siemens.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA17451 for ; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 08:00:44 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 08:00:43 +0100 From: Andre Albsmeier To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Thanks for fixing ctm generation, but ... Message-ID: <19991109080043.A52181@internal> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG First, thanks for fixing the ctm generation. However, the src-3.0351.gz wants to remove a file 'cout' which doesn't exist. After fixing src-3.0351 in a way that it doesn't want to remove this file anymore, all went well... -Andre To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 9 1:38:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ulysses.noc.ntua.gr (ulysses.noc.ntua.gr [147.102.222.230]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A067B14F5F for ; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 01:38:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from adamo@dblab.ece.ntua.gr) Received: from dblab.ece.ntua.gr (ithaca.dbnet.ece.ntua.gr [147.102.12.1]) by ulysses.noc.ntua.gr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA46186 for ; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 11:38:04 +0200 (EET) Received: (from george@localhost) by dblab.ece.ntua.gr (8.10.0.Beta6/8.9.3) id dA99c4c47440 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 11:38:04 +0200 (EET) Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 11:38:04 +0200 From: Yiorgos Adamopoulos To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sysinstall bug? Message-ID: <19991109113804.A28229@dblab.ece.ntua.gr> Reply-To: adamo@dblab.ece.ntua.gr References: <199911090252.DAA19021@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <199911090252.DAA19021@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de>; from olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de on Tue, Nov 09, 1999 at 03:52:26AM +0100 X-Organization: Knowledge and Data Base Systems Laboratory, National Technical University of Athens, GREECE X-URL: http://home.eu.org/~adamo X-Alt-Email: adamo@ieee.org X-Work-Phone: +30-1-772-1-436 X-Work-FAX: +30-1-772-1-442 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Nov 09, 1999 at 03:52:26AM +0100, Oliver Fromme wrote: > Now my question is: Isn't sysinstall supposed to look for > existing entries in /etc/rc.conf and _replace_ them, instead That would be one way of doing things. > of always appending? What purpose does that "generated deltas" > line have? Did we do anything wrong? Well, the nice thing with the way sysinstall works now is that you have a history of changes in /etc/rc.conf. Much like the way you do when you change it by hand (you do comment changes, don't you? ;-) I do not thing it is a mistake/bug, rather it is a deliberate design feature. What it lacks is an option that can "compress" it to a "normal" size with no duplicate keys. Which makes me wonder: Couldn't rc.conf get generated by something like a NEWDB map? ------------------------------------ Yiorgos Adamopoulos To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 9 2:46:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A78614CFB for ; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 02:46:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA85784 for ; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 02:46:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sysinstall bug? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 09 Nov 1999 03:52:26 +0100." <199911090252.DAA19021@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> Date: Tue, 09 Nov 1999 02:46:00 -0800 Message-ID: <85780.942144360@localhost> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Now my question is: Isn't sysinstall supposed to look for > existing entries in /etc/rc.conf and _replace_ them, instead > of always appending? What purpose does that "generated deltas" > line have? Did we do anything wrong? sysinstall should do something like this, yes. It does not because it was easier to code that solution than do a proper merge. > Should I send patches? :) That has always had a way of escallating the pace of development in the past, I'll say that much. :-) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 9 6: 4:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B25C114E24 for ; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 06:04:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cy@cschuber.net.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id GAA21997; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 06:04:41 -0800 Received: from cschuber.net.gov.bc.ca(142.31.240.113), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda21995; Tue Nov 9 06:04:40 1999 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id GAA26527; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 06:04:37 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199911091404.GAA26527@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdE26523; Tue Nov 9 06:04:32 1999 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.0 09/18/1999 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-OS: FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE X-Sender: cy To: vladimir-bsd-stable@math.uic.edu Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: nfs problems In-reply-to: Your message of "04 Nov 1999 21:00:35 GMT." <19991104210035.9660.qmail@math.uic.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 09 Nov 1999 06:04:32 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <19991104210035.9660.qmail@math.uic.edu>, vladimir-bsd-stable@math.u ic.edu writes: > I did some more testing: if a directory is on an NFS mounted > partition and the mode on the directory is 711 (and the directory is > not owned by root), after mount with NFS v.2 I can list the contents of > the directory. Mounts with NFSv.3 produce expected results: root is > not allowed to list the directory. I will submit a bug report. When you do submit the bug report, please post the PR number. I for one would like to track this PR and even test proposed patches. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Sun/DEC Team, UNIX Group Internet: Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca ITSD Cy.Schubert@gems8.gov.bc.ca Province of BC "e**(i*pi)+1=0" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 9 6:49: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from qzeus.carroll.com (qzeus.carroll.com [199.224.10.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 891CF15096 for ; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 06:49:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from zgu@carroll.com) Received: from z-c.hck.carroll.com [216.44.20.22] by qzeus.carroll.com with SMTP (8.8.5/0) id JAA22281; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 09:48:58 -0500 Message-ID: <001301bf2ac0$d20b3320$16142cd8@z-c.hck.carroll.com> From: "Zhigang Gu" To: Subject: Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 09:43:43 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG auth 16af8b9f subscribe freebsd-stable zgu@carroll.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 9 7:23:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tricord.system.pl (tricord.system.pl [195.205.185.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC94D14BD5 for ; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 07:23:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from saper@system.pl) Received: from localhost (saper@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tricord.system.pl (SYSTEM Internet) with ESMTP id PAA22375 for ; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 15:44:36 +0100 (MET) Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 15:44:33 +0100 (MET) From: Marcin Cieslak To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sysinstall edits rc.conf In-Reply-To: <19991109113804.A28229@dblab.ece.ntua.gr> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 9 Nov 1999, Yiorgos Adamopoulos wrote: > What it lacks is an option that can "compress" it to a "normal" size with no > duplicate keys. Which makes me wonder: Couldn't rc.conf get generated by > something like a NEWDB map? And, perhaps, store it in system.db and user.db files. One can imagine creation of /usr/sbin/regedit utility some day... :) -- << Marcin Cieslak // saper@system.pl >> ----------------------------------------------------------------- SYSTEM Internet Provider http://www.system.pl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 9 7:44:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from inhaler.noopy.org (h00a02419c5cd.ne.mediaone.net [24.128.51.156]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E75A14CE0 for ; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 07:44:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nvp@Noopy.ORG) Received: (from nvp@localhost) by inhaler.noopy.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA53413 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 10:47:17 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 10:47:16 -0500 From: "Nathan V. Patwardhan" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Error building stable sources 11/9/1999 Message-ID: <19991109104716.A53405@noopy.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i X-No-Archive: yes Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I cvsup'ed a fresh set of stable sources both yesterday and this morning (used stable-supfile). On both occassions, 'make buildworld' died with the following error: cc -O -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/ld/rtld/.. -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/ld/rtld -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/ld/rtld/../i386 -fpic -fno-function-cse -DRTLD -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/ld/rtld/../support.c cc -O -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/ld/rtld/.. -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/ld/rtld -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/ld/rtld/../i386 -fpic -fno-function-cse -DRTLD -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/ld/rtld/sbrk.c cc -O -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/ld/rtld/.. -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/ld/rtld -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/ld/rtld/../i386 -fpic -fno-function-cse -DRTLD -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -nostdlib -Wl,-Bshareable -Wl,-Bsymbolic -Wl,-assert -Wl,nosymbolic -o ld.so mdprologue.o rtld.o malloc.o shlib.o md.o support.o sbrk.o -lc_pic -lgcc_pic mdprologue.o(.text+0x22): undefined reference to `_rtld' mdprologue.o(.text+0x40): undefined reference to `_binder' rtld.o: In function `reloc_map': rtld.o(.text+0xe9d): undefined reference to `binder_entry' *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. Just an FYI. Please let me know what you find out. Thanks! -- Nathan Patwardhan nvp@noopy.org "The good place for all who are Noopies" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 9 8: 2:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ulysses.noc.ntua.gr (ulysses.noc.ntua.gr [147.102.222.230]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E10B71532E for ; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 08:01:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from adamo@dblab.ece.ntua.gr) Received: from dblab.ece.ntua.gr (ithaca.dbnet.ece.ntua.gr [147.102.12.1]) by ulysses.noc.ntua.gr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA65368; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 18:01:29 +0200 (EET) Received: (from george@localhost) by dblab.ece.ntua.gr (8.10.0.Beta6/8.9.3) id dA9G1Ts42831; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 18:01:29 +0200 (EET) Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 18:01:29 +0200 From: Yiorgos Adamopoulos To: Marcin Cieslak Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sysinstall edits rc.conf Message-ID: <19991109180129.A41943@dblab.ece.ntua.gr> Reply-To: adamo@dblab.ece.ntua.gr References: <19991109113804.A28229@dblab.ece.ntua.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: ; from saper@system.pl on Tue, Nov 09, 1999 at 03:44:33PM +0100 X-Organization: Knowledge and Data Base Systems Laboratory, National Technical University of Athens, GREECE X-URL: http://home.eu.org/~adamo X-Alt-Email: adamo@ieee.org X-Work-Phone: +30-1-772-1-436 X-Work-FAX: +30-1-772-1-442 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Nov 09, 1999 at 03:44:33PM +0100, Marcin Cieslak wrote: > One can imagine creation of /usr/sbin/regedit utility some day... :) We have sysctl for this... ------------------------------------ Yiorgos Adamopoulos To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 9 8:32:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.243.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 477AA14CCA for ; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 08:32:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA27335 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 17:32:35 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from olli) Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 17:32:35 +0100 (CET) From: Oliver Fromme Message-Id: <199911091632.RAA27335@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sysinstall bug? Organization: Administration Heim 3 Reply-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 RZTUC(3) PL2] Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Yiorgos Adamopoulos wrote in list.freebsd-stable: > On Tue, Nov 09, 1999 at 03:52:26AM +0100, Oliver Fromme wrote: > > Now my question is: Isn't sysinstall supposed to look for > > existing entries in /etc/rc.conf and _replace_ them, instead > > That would be one way of doing things. The only clean way, IMO. > Well, the nice thing with the way sysinstall works now is that you have a > history of changes in /etc/rc.conf. Much like the way you do when you change > it by hand (you do comment changes, don't you? ;-) I use CVS for all non-trivial configuration files. Using commented lines as a "history" is an ugly hack. Not an option. > I do not thing it is a mistake/bug, rather it is a deliberate design feature. I don't believe that (and I think I'm right, see Jordan's reply). > duplicate keys. Which makes me wonder: Couldn't rc.conf get generated by > something like a NEWDB map? What advantage would that have, except for obfuscating the whole thing? Regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, Leibnizstr. 18/61, 38678 Clausthal, Germany (Info: finger userinfo:olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) "In jedem Stück Kohle wartet ein Diamant auf seine Geburt" (Terry Pratchett) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 9 8:41:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ulysses.noc.ntua.gr (ulysses.noc.ntua.gr [147.102.222.230]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B590E14C05 for ; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 08:41:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from adamo@dblab.ece.ntua.gr) Received: from dblab.ece.ntua.gr (ithaca.dbnet.ece.ntua.gr [147.102.12.1]) by ulysses.noc.ntua.gr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA67258 for ; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 18:41:19 +0200 (EET) Received: (from george@localhost) by dblab.ece.ntua.gr (8.10.0.Beta6/8.9.3) id dA9GfJ058790 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 18:41:19 +0200 (EET) Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 18:41:19 +0200 From: Yiorgos Adamopoulos To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sysinstall bug? Message-ID: <19991109184119.A53330@dblab.ece.ntua.gr> Reply-To: adamo@dblab.ece.ntua.gr References: <199911091632.RAA27335@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <199911091632.RAA27335@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de>; from olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de on Tue, Nov 09, 1999 at 05:32:35PM +0100 X-Organization: Knowledge and Data Base Systems Laboratory, National Technical University of Athens, GREECE X-URL: http://home.eu.org/~adamo X-Alt-Email: adamo@ieee.org X-Work-Phone: +30-1-772-1-436 X-Work-FAX: +30-1-772-1-442 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Nov 09, 1999 at 05:32:35PM +0100, Oliver Fromme wrote: > What advantage would that have, except for obfuscating the > whole thing? Maybe none, but unless dropping ideas on the table, you can never improve, right? I thought, I proposed, it got dropped, end of story. ------------------------------------ Yiorgos Adamopoulos To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 9 9:54: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from inhaler.noopy.org (h00a02419c5cd.ne.mediaone.net [24.128.51.156]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C66514C58 for ; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 09:54:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nvp@Noopy.ORG) Received: (from nvp@localhost) by inhaler.noopy.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA53756 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 12:56:57 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 12:56:56 -0500 From: "Nathan V. Patwardhan" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Error building stable sources 11/9/1999 Message-ID: <19991109125656.A53737@noopy.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i X-No-Archive: yes Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I'd like to upgrade my machine from 3.3-RELEASE to 3.3-STABLE. In the past (as recent as 3.2), I'd had no problems doing so. But in this instance, I got an error when building the sources. I cvsup'ed a fresh set of stable sources both yesterday and this morning (used stable-supfile). On both occassions, 'make buildworld' died with the following error: cc -O -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/ld/rtld/.. -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/ld/rtld -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/ld/rtld/../i386 -fpic -fno-function-cse -DRTLD -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/ld/rtld/../support.c cc -O -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/ld/rtld/.. -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/ld/rtld -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/ld/rtld/../i386 -fpic -fno-function-cse -DRTLD -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/ld/rtld/sbrk.c cc -O -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/ld/rtld/.. -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/ld/rtld -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/ld/rtld/../i386 -fpic -fno-function-cse -DRTLD -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -nostdlib -Wl,-Bshareable -Wl,-Bsymbolic -Wl,-assert -Wl,nosymbolic -o ld.so mdprologue.o rtld.o malloc.o shlib.o md.o support.o sbrk.o -lc_pic -lgcc_pic mdprologue.o(.text+0x22): undefined reference to `_rtld' mdprologue.o(.text+0x40): undefined reference to `_binder' rtld.o: In function `reloc_map': rtld.o(.text+0xe9d): undefined reference to `binder_entry' *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. Just an FYI. Please let me know what you find out. Thanks! -- Nathan Patwardhan nvp@noopy.org "The good place for all who are Noopies" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 9 10:49:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1FD4152C2 for ; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 10:49:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com (p18-dn01kiryunisiki.gunma.ocn.ne.jp [210.132.6.147]) by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN) with ESMTP id DAA11066 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 03:49:15 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <38280CDC.A7DF92D0@newsguy.com> Date: Tue, 09 Nov 1999 21:00:29 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sysinstall bug? References: <199911090252.DAA19021@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Oliver Fromme wrote: > > Now my question is: Isn't sysinstall supposed to look for > existing entries in /etc/rc.conf and _replace_ them, instead > of always appending? What purpose does that "generated deltas" > line have? Did we do anything wrong? > Should I send patches? :) Feel free to send the patches. Mind you, you'll have to rewrite the whole thing (something which is in my queue, as a matter of fact). -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org What y'all wanna do? Wanna be hackers? Code crackers? Slackers Wastin' time with all the chatroom yakkers? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 9 11: 7:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hungry.spb.cityline.ru (hungry.spb.cityline.ru [212.46.192.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE3501527D for ; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 11:07:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lev@imc.macro.ru) Received: from lev.sereb.net (ip-104.dialup.cl.spb.ru [212.46.193.104]) by hungry.spb.cityline.ru (8.8.8/8.8/CL) with ESMTP id WAA14029 for ; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 22:01:29 +0300 (MSK) Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 22:02:06 +0300 From: Lev Serebryakov X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.36) S/N F29DEE5D / Educational X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <12918.991109@imc.macro.ru> To: All Subject: FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE can not detect CD Teac-532E-B Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, All! I bought Teac 532E-B IDE CD-ROM drive (I didn't have CD-ROM for a long time). I've attached it as primary-master to my PIIX4 BusMaster controller (on Shuttle Hot 596 motherboard). It works perfectly under DOS and Windows NT, but last STABLE FreeBSD could not detect it. I have 3 HDD (Primary-master, both secondary-master and secondary-slave). Here is my kernel config file (part of it): >====================== LEV586 starts here ======================< >[SKIPPED] controller wdc0 at isa? port "IO_WD1" bio irq 14 disk wd0 at wdc0 drive 0 flags 0xA0FF disk wd1 at wdc0 drive 1 flags 0xA0FF controller wdc1 at isa? port "IO_WD2" bio irq 15 disk wd2 at wdc1 drive 0 flags 0xA0FF disk wd3 at wdc1 drive 1 flags 0xA0FF options ATAPI #Enable ATAPI support for IDE bus device acd0 >[SKIPPED] >====================== LEV586 ends here ======================< Here is my loader config file: >====================== loader.rc starts here ======================< \ Loader.rc \ \ Includes additional commands include /boot/loader.4th \ Reads and processes loader.rc start load kernel load atapi \ Unless set otherwise, autoboot is automatic at this point autoboot 5 >====================== loader.rc ends here ======================< And here is `dmesg' output after boot (part of it): >====================== `dmesg` starts here ======================< Copyright (c) 1992-1999 FreeBSD Inc. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE #0: Tue Nov 9 21:11:35 MSK 1999 root@lev.sereb.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/LEV586 Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz Timecounter "TSC" frequency 249918178 Hz CPU: Pentium/P55C (249.92-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x543 Stepping = 3 Features=0x8001bf real memory = 67108864 (65536K bytes) avail memory = 62672896 (61204K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0275000. Preloaded elf module "atapi.ko" at 0xc027509c. Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: >[SKIPPED] ppi0: on ppbus 0 wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): , DMA, 32-bit, multi-block-16 wd0: 4110MB (8418816 sectors), 14848 cyls, 9 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa wdc1: unit 0 (wd2): , DMA, 32-bit, multi-block-16 wd2: 3079MB (6306048 sectors), 6256 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc1: unit 1 (wd3): , DMA, 32-bit, multi-block-16 wd3: 2014MB (4124736 sectors), 4092 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa >[SKIPPED] >====================== `dmesg` ends here ======================< Last time I have CD-ROM, it was 2.2.5-RELEASE... Is it bug (feature?) of FreeBSD, or I need RTFM (I've read `man loader', but `man wcd', `man acd', `man wdc' and `man atapi' give me nothing)? Lev Serebryakov, 2:5030/661.0 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 9 11:37:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from math.uic.edu (galois.math.uic.edu [131.193.178.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 59A6714D9F for ; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 11:37:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vladimir-freebsd-stable@math.uic.edu) Received: (qmail 4538 invoked by uid 31415); 9 Nov 1999 19:37:46 -0000 Date: 9 Nov 1999 19:37:46 -0000 Message-ID: <19991109193746.4537.qmail@math.uic.edu> From: vladimir-freebsd-stable@math.uic.edu To: Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca, vladimir-bsd-stable@math.uic.edu Subject: Re: nfs problems Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Problem Report kern/14712. Vladimir vladimir@math.uic.edu >From cy@cschuber.net.gov.bc.ca Tue Nov 09 14:04:53 1999 >Delivered-To: vladimir-bsd-stable@math.uic.edu >From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group >X-OS: FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE >X-Sender: cy >To: vladimir-bsd-stable@math.uic.edu >cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG >Subject: Re: nfs problems >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Date: Tue, 09 Nov 1999 06:04:32 -0800 > >In message <19991104210035.9660.qmail@math.uic.edu>, vladimir-bsd-stable@math.u >ic.edu writes: >> I did some more testing: if a directory is on an NFS mounted >> partition and the mode on the directory is 711 (and the directory is >> not owned by root), after mount with NFS v.2 I can list the contents of >> the directory. Mounts with NFSv.3 produce expected results: root is >> not allowed to list the directory. I will submit a bug report. > >When you do submit the bug report, please post the PR number. I for >one would like to track this PR and even test proposed patches. > > >Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 >Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 >Sun/DEC Team, UNIX Group Internet: Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca >ITSD Cy.Schubert@gems8.gov.bc.ca >Province of BC > "e**(i*pi)+1=0" > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 9 13: 1:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from loanslive.net (loanslive.net [216.103.11.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DF4F14A1B for ; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 13:01:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vValenti@LoansLive.Com) Received: from VVALENTICOMP (liveloans.com [216.103.11.130]) by loanslive.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA42615 for ; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 12:56:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vValenti@LoansLive.Com) Message-ID: <000a01bf2af4$be1e5930$1400000a@VVALENTICOMP> From: "Vince Valenti" To: Subject: Natd Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 12:55:22 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01BF2AB1.AF06A710" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.5500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BF2AB1.AF06A710 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello... I have a problem that I am hoping someone could help me = with... I am trying to redirect a port (80) on my FreeBSD box to my internal web = server. I have tried starting natd like this: natd -n ed1 -redirect_port 10.0.0.1:80 80 But it doesn't seem to work. Does anyone have any ideas? Thanks, Vince Valenti Senior Technical Engineer vValenti@LoansLive.Com ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BF2AB1.AF06A710 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello...  I have a problem that I = am hoping=20 someone could help me with...
 
I am trying to redirect a port (80) on = my FreeBSD=20 box to my internal web server.  I have tried starting natd like=20 this:
 
natd -n ed1 -redirect_port 10.0.0.1:80=20 80
 
But it doesn't seem to work.  Does = anyone have=20 any ideas?
 
Thanks,

Vince Valenti
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vValenti@LoansLive.Com<= /DIV> ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BF2AB1.AF06A710-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 9 13:18:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from viper.columbus.rr.com (viper.columbus.rr.com [204.210.252.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B507714A1B for ; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 13:18:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brianmcd@columbus.rr.com) Received: from galatea (flpprbaby@dhcp31168084.columbus.rr.com [24.31.168.84]) by viper.columbus.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA01563; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 16:14:57 -0500 (EST) From: "Brian McDonald" To: "Vince Valenti" Cc: Subject: RE: Natd Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 16:18:25 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <000a01bf2af4$be1e5930$1400000a@VVALENTICOMP> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Vince, I've been using a config file for natd. natd -n ed1 -f /etc/natd.conf where /etc/natd.conf contains: dynamic yes redirect_port tcp 192.168.10.10:80 80 Works like a charm. The last line redirects traffic from the external network to the internal webserver port 80. "dynamic yes" is only needed if you have an DHCP/bootp configured external interface. Not sure about this - but you might get different results from inside and outside the network. The man page isn't specific on "aliasIP" being only the ed1 ip addy, or all addresses for the server. If you can't see the internal server through the NATD server, might add the line redirect_port tcp 10.0.0.1:80 :80 So that natd on the server will redirect _both_ ports. Brian -- Brian McDonald, IBS Consulting Services System Administration Consultant -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Vince Valenti Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 1999 3:55 PM To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Natd Hello... I have a problem that I am hoping someone could help me with... I am trying to redirect a port (80) on my FreeBSD box to my internal web server. I have tried starting natd like this: natd -n ed1 -redirect_port 10.0.0.1:80 80 But it doesn't seem to work. Does anyone have any ideas? Thanks, Vince Valenti Senior Technical Engineer vValenti@LoansLive.Com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 9 13:23:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from loanslive.net (loanslive.net [216.103.11.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 195E4154C9 for ; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 13:23:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vValenti@LoansLive.Com) Received: from VVALENTICOMP (liveloans.com [216.103.11.130]) by loanslive.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA42676; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 13:18:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vValenti@LoansLive.Com) Message-ID: <003f01bf2af7$de3112f0$1400000a@VVALENTICOMP> From: "Vince Valenti" To: Cc: References: <000a01bf2af4$be1e5930$1400000a@VVALENTICOMP> <19991109151927.B10541@enteract.com> Subject: Re: Natd Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 13:17:44 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.5500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Yes, this is what I tried. It doesn't seem to work :( Vince Valenti Senior Technical Engineer vValenti@LoansLive.Com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim C. Nasby" To: "Vince Valenti" Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 1999 1:19 PM Subject: Re: Natd > >From the manpage: > > -redirect_port proto targetIP:targetPORT[-targetPORT] [aliasIP:]alias- > PORT[-aliasPORT] [remoteIP[:remotePORT[-remotePORT]]] > > Basically, you need to do something like > > -redirect_port tcp 10.0.0.1:80 80 > > Note however that I've never actually tried this; YMMV. > > On Tue, Nov 09, 1999 at 12:55:22PM -0800, Vince Valenti wrote: > > Hello... I have a problem that I am hoping someone could help me with... > > > > I am trying to redirect a port (80) on my FreeBSD box to my internal web server. I have tried starting natd like this: > > > > natd -n ed1 -redirect_port 10.0.0.1:80 80 > > > > But it doesn't seem to work. Does anyone have any ideas? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Vince Valenti > > Senior Technical Engineer > > vValenti@LoansLive.Com > > -- > Jim C. Nasby (aka Decibel!) /^\ > jim@nasby.net /___\ > Freelance lighting designer and database developer / | \ > Member: Triangle Fraternity, Sports Car Club of America /___|___\ > > Give your computer some brain-candy! http://www.distributed.net Team #1828 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 9 13:56:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from awfulhak.org (dynamic-41.max4-du-ws.dialnetwork.pavilion.co.uk [212.74.9.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8349015162 for ; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 13:55:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (root@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org [172.16.0.12]) by awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA08189; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 21:46:21 GMT (envelope-from brian@lan.awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (brian@localhost.lan.Awfulhak.org [127.0.0.1]) by hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA04250; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 21:50:07 GMT (envelope-from brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <199911092150.VAA04250@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.0 09/18/1999 To: "Vince Valenti" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org Subject: Re: Natd In-Reply-To: Message from "Vince Valenti" of "Tue, 09 Nov 1999 12:55:22 PST." <000a01bf2af4$be1e5930$1400000a@VVALENTICOMP> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 09 Nov 1999 21:50:07 +0000 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [.....] > natd -n ed1 -redirect_port 10.0.0.1:80 80 > > But it doesn't seem to work. Does anyone have any ideas? You're missing the protocol (tcp): natd -n ed1 -redirect_port tcp 10.0.0.1:80 80 > Thanks, > > Vince Valenti > Senior Technical Engineer > vValenti@LoansLive.Com [.....] > > [.....] *sigh* -- Brian Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 9 15:55:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nisser.com (c1870039.telekabel.chello.nl [212.187.0.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AEC115142 for ; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 15:55:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from roelof@nisser.com) Received: from nisser.com (roelof [10.0.0.2]) by nisser.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id BAA41442; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 01:01:16 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from roelof@nisser.com) Message-ID: <3828B489.60D3F3FB@nisser.com> Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 00:55:53 +0100 From: Roelof Osinga Organization: eboa - engineering buro Office Automation X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew Sherrod Cc: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: easyboot far into disk References: <19991107163341.10700.rocketmail@web119.yahoomail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Andrew Sherrod wrote: > > There IS a patch for the disk geometry problem. (Thus > I have been repeatedly told it is NOT a REAL problem.) > > ... > > (Oh, please ignore the one mistake blaming the problem > on BIOS rather than disk controller. Otherwise, I > stand behind everything written in the bug reports.) Great news. However in my case it really was a BIOS problem. Once I had wiped the disk I tried to install DOS. No go. Next set BIOS to LBA (from LARGE), no go. Finally set to CHS. Go. So there were two problems in parallel. FreeBSD did not recognize the BIOS settings correctly. But also the BIOS seemingly did not function as advertised even for OS's that did use it. Roelof -- Home is where the (@) http://eboa.com/ is. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 9 17:11:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gluttony.peregrine.com (nat-39.peregrine.com [63.82.230.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED6F414DC0 for ; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 17:11:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from erich@peregrine.com) Received: from peregrine.com (gluttony.peregrine.com [172.18.2.42]) by gluttony.peregrine.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA02384; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 17:08:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from erich@peregrine.com) Message-ID: <3828C594.F9D7EF6F@peregrine.com> Date: Tue, 09 Nov 1999 17:08:36 -0800 From: Eric Hedstrom X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lev Serebryakov Cc: All Subject: Re: FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE can not detect CD Teac-532E-B References: <12918.991109@imc.macro.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG If you have a hard drive as primary master (and secondary master and secondary slave), the CD should be the primary slave. Eric Lev Serebryakov wrote: > > Hi, All! > > I bought Teac 532E-B IDE CD-ROM drive (I didn't have CD-ROM for a > long time). > I've attached it as primary-master to my PIIX4 BusMaster controller > (on Shuttle Hot 596 motherboard). > It works perfectly under DOS and Windows NT, but last STABLE FreeBSD > could not detect it. > I have 3 HDD (Primary-master, both secondary-master and > secondary-slave). > > Here is my kernel config file (part of it): > > >====================== LEV586 starts here ======================< > >[SKIPPED] > controller wdc0 at isa? port "IO_WD1" bio irq 14 > disk wd0 at wdc0 drive 0 flags 0xA0FF > disk wd1 at wdc0 drive 1 flags 0xA0FF > controller wdc1 at isa? port "IO_WD2" bio irq 15 > disk wd2 at wdc1 drive 0 flags 0xA0FF > disk wd3 at wdc1 drive 1 flags 0xA0FF > > options ATAPI #Enable ATAPI support for IDE bus > device acd0 > >[SKIPPED] > >====================== LEV586 ends here ======================< > > Here is my loader config file: > >====================== loader.rc starts here ======================< > \ Loader.rc > \ > \ Includes additional commands > include /boot/loader.4th > > \ Reads and processes loader.rc > start > > load kernel > load atapi > > \ Unless set otherwise, autoboot is automatic at this point > autoboot 5 > >====================== loader.rc ends here ======================< > > And here is `dmesg' output after boot (part of it): > >====================== `dmesg` starts here ======================< > Copyright (c) 1992-1999 FreeBSD Inc. > Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 > The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. > FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE #0: Tue Nov 9 21:11:35 MSK 1999 > root@lev.sereb.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/LEV586 > Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz > Timecounter "TSC" frequency 249918178 Hz > CPU: Pentium/P55C (249.92-MHz 586-class CPU) > Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x543 Stepping = 3 > Features=0x8001bf > real memory = 67108864 (65536K bytes) > avail memory = 62672896 (61204K bytes) > Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0275000. > Preloaded elf module "atapi.ko" at 0xc027509c. > Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: > >[SKIPPED] > ppi0: on ppbus 0 > wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa > wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): , DMA, 32-bit, multi-block-16 > wd0: 4110MB (8418816 sectors), 14848 cyls, 9 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S > wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa > wdc1: unit 0 (wd2): , DMA, 32-bit, multi-block-16 > wd2: 3079MB (6306048 sectors), 6256 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S > wdc1: unit 1 (wd3): , DMA, 32-bit, multi-block-16 > wd3: 2014MB (4124736 sectors), 4092 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S > fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa > >[SKIPPED] > >====================== `dmesg` ends here ======================< > > Last time I have CD-ROM, it was 2.2.5-RELEASE... Is it bug (feature?) > of FreeBSD, or I need RTFM (I've read `man loader', but `man wcd', > `man acd', `man wdc' and `man atapi' give me nothing)? > > Lev Serebryakov, 2:5030/661.0 > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 9 18:57:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5FDC14C45 for ; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 18:57:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA02301 for ; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 18:48:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199911100248.SAA02301@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Mylex DAC-960 driver, second revision available Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 09 Nov 1999 18:48:16 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've just put up the second revision of the backported Mylex DAC 960 driver. This should work with most 3.x systems, although it's only been tested with 3.3-stable. Notes: - This release tries to deal with the "poll still busy" problem that has been reported. I was being too zealous in complaining about outstanding status commands. - You can't boot from a RAID volume. The fix for this is quite nontrivial, and may not ever make it back into the 3.x family. - Before installing a card, you *must* update your bootstrap and loader as detailed in the included instructions (binaries are provided). Download from: http://www.freebsd.org/~msmith/RAID/mylex/mlx-stable-991109.tar.gz -- \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 9 18:57:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9447714D4E for ; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 18:57:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA02309 for ; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 18:48:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199911100248.SAA02309@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: AMI MegaRAID driver, first revision available Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 09 Nov 1999 18:48:18 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've just put up the first revision of the backported AMI MegaRAID driver. This should work with most 3.x systems, although it's only been tested with 3.3-stable. Notes: - This is the first revision. It should work OK, but I will appreciate feedback on how well it works for you. - You can't boot from a RAID volume. The fix for this is quite nontrivial, and may not ever make it back into the 3.x family. - Unlike with the Mylex cards, you _don't_ need to update the bootstrap and loader before installing the card. Download from: http://www.freebsd.org/~msmith/RAID/ami/amr-stable-991109.tar.gz -- \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 9 19:27:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.uniserve.com (mail2.uniserve.com [204.244.156.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9267014BC4 for ; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 19:27:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from shell.uniserve.ca ([204.244.186.218]) by mail2.uniserve.com with smtp (Exim 3.03 #4) id 11lOPw-000Lvd-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 09 Nov 1999 19:27:28 -0800 Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 19:27:23 -0800 (PST) From: Tom X-Sender: tom@shell.uniserve.ca To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: NFS in -stable Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've been searching the archives for some definitive statements on what the status of NFS these days, and I have really come with anything. How is the performance, and stability of the NFS client in 3.2-stable today? I understand the server side of NFS locking is finished, but the client isn't? So if processes running on a client lock NFS files, the NFS server won't know, and neither will other NFS clients? However, what about processes running on the same client? Will those locks work? Is NFSv2 or NFSv3 recommended for 3.2-stable? I'm primarily interested in the NFS client, versus a NetApp NFS server. Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 9 23:28:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (smtp10.atl.mindspring.net [207.69.200.246]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89DD214A00 for ; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 23:28:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dex@wankers.net) Received: from wankers.net (user-38lcilb.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.74.171]) by smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA18945 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 02:28:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (dex@localhost.mindspring.com [127.0.0.1]) by wankers.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA22823 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 02:28:20 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from dex@wankers.net) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 02:28:20 -0500 (EST) From: Taz X-Sender: dex@localhost.mindspring.com To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: a CLOSE_WAIT fiasco Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is basically an FYI. I have 2 fetchmail processes that have been running on a 3.3-STABLE box for a week. Suddenly, a few hours ago, I ran out of available file descriptors. Upon investigation, fetchmail and sendmail had been uncooperative with each other due to this issue. Oddly enough, the instance of fetchmail with the problem was the one that delivers FAR less mail. a netstat -an showed over 800 connections in CLOSE_WAIT. After killing sendmail, several of these gradually expired, but I still maintained a constant 800+ CLOSE_WAIT state connections upon restarting it. I finally tracked down the issue when I realized that something was STILL wrong, and ran an fstat. fetchmail had a collection of fd's corresponding to the connections stuck in CLOSE_WAIT. upon killing the process, exactly 800 connections left CLOSE_WAIT. The moral of this story is: if you run out of fd's and you run fetchmail with a local MTA, do an fstat and look for a fetchmail process with several lines. More than 20 stream connections means it's having a problem, and killing it will resolve the issue. No need to wreck your uptime for a few hundred hung connections. -J. -- opinions? cat creative_criticism >/dev/ponder cat flames >/dev/null -- J.D. Mischo -- SuperTaz -- DexNation Holodream -- dex@wankers.net -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 10 1:30: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hungry.spb.cityline.ru (hungry.spb.cityline.ru [212.46.192.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 431D214C47 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 01:29:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lev@imc.macro.ru) Received: from lev.sereb.net (ip-1467.dialup.cl.spb.ru [212.46.200.245]) by hungry.spb.cityline.ru (8.8.8/8.8/CL) with ESMTP id MAA17390 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 12:28:17 +0300 (MSK) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 12:26:46 +0300 From: Lev Serebryakov X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.36) S/N F29DEE5D / Educational X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <14518.991110@imc.macro.ru> To: Eric Hedstrom Subject: Re[2]: FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE can not detect CD Teac-532E-B In-reply-To: <3828C594.F9D7EF6F@peregrine.com> References: <3828C594.F9D7EF6F@peregrine.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Eric! Wednesday, November 10, 1999, 4:08:36 AM, you wrote: EH> If you have a hard drive as primary master (and secondary master and EH> secondary slave), the CD should be the primary slave. >> I've attached it as primary-master to my PIIX4 BusMaster controller ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >> (on Shuttle Hot 596 motherboard). >> It works perfectly under DOS and Windows NT, but last STABLE FreeBSD >> could not detect it. >> I have 3 HDD (Primary-master, both secondary-master and >> secondary-slave). It was a type. I mean ``primary-slave'', of course. Sorry. Lev Serebryakov, 2:5030/661.0 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 10 2:20:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.uct.ac.za (mail.uct.ac.za [137.158.128.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 443DD1525B for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 02:20:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dks@its.uct.ac.za) Received: from dks.its.uct.ac.za ([137.158.27.4] helo=its.uct.ac.za) by mail.uct.ac.za with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #1) id 11lUmD-0003np-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 12:14:53 +0200 Message-ID: <382946E7.7A4682C7@its.uct.ac.za> Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 12:20:23 +0200 From: Daniel Smith Organization: University of Cape Town X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en-gb] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: ncplib mirror? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Is anyone out there mirroring Boris Popov's ncplib site? We haven't been able to get to it for the last few days (no responses after cisco-gw.ricc.kz) Thanks, Daniel. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 10 2:56:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from jktmail02.indosat.net.id (jktmail02.indosat.net.id [202.155.15.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 077A615303 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 02:56:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andy@bozo.dhs.org) Received: from mrican.yogya.linux.or.id ([202.155.16.69]) by jktmail02.indosat.net.id with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.977.9); Wed, 10 Nov 1999 17:51:34 +0700 Received: (qmail 7968 invoked by uid 500); 10 Nov 1999 11:01:57 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 11:01:57 -0000 Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 18:01:56 +0700 (JAVT) From: Andy Permana To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: support for motherboard intel ca810 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello everyone, is there any Support for Motherboard intel CA-810a on FreeBSD-3.3-STABLE ? My 3.3-STABLE won't compile the kernel correctly on CA-810a but works fine on intel BI-440ZX though, it always throws error. ps: i'm using BI-440ZX to re-making the world and it works perfectly Thankyou -andy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 10 6:24:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de (ipamzlx.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA18314E02 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 06:24:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ohartman@ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de) Received: from ipamzlx.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE (ipamzlx.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.54]) by ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA61022 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 15:25:45 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ohartman@ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 15:25:44 +0100 (CET) From: "O. Hartmann" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Error on compiling ... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Today I got the newest stuff from CVS (10th Nov 1999). When trying to make world I get this error: -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> elf make world started on Wed Nov 10 15:22:10 CET 1999 -------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Cleaning up the temporary elf build tree -------------------------------------------------------------- mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp chflags -R noschg /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/ rm -rf /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Making make -------------------------------------------------------------- mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/make ( cd /usr/src/usr.bin/make; MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=""; unset MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX; PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin:/usr/local/krb5/sbin:/usr/local/krb5/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/scripts:/usr/local/samba/bin BISON_SIMPLE=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/share/misc/bison.simple COMPILER_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/libexec:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin GCC_EXEC_PREFIX=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib/ LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib NOEXTRADEPEND=t OBJFORMAT_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/libexec:/usr/libexec MAKEOBJDIR=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/make make DESTDIR=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp -I/usr/src/share/mk -DNOINFO -DNOMAN -DNOPIC -DNOPROFILE -DNOSHARED all; PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/bin! :/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin:/usr/local/krb5/sbin:/usr/local/krb5/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/scripts:/usr/local/samba/bin BISON_SIMPLE=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/share/misc/bison.simple COMPILER_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/libexec:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin GCC_EXEC_PREFIX=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib/ LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib NOEXTRADEPEND=t OBJFORMAT_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/libexec:/usr/libexec MAKEOBJDIR=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/make make DESTDIR=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp -I/usr/src/share/mk -DNOINFO -DNOMAN -DNOPIC -DNOPROFILE -DNOSHARED install; PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin:/usr/local/krb5/sbin:/usr/local/krb5/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/loca! l/scripts:/usr/local/samba/bin BISON_SIMPLE=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/s hare/misc/bison.simple COMPILER_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/libexec:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin GCC_EXEC_PREFIX=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib/ LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib NOEXTRADEPEND=t OBJFORMAT_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/libexec:/usr/libexec MAKEOBJDIR=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/make make DESTDIR=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp -I/usr/src/share/mk -DNOINFO -DNOMAN -DNOPIC -DNOPROFILE -DNOSHARED clean ) cc -O3 -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/make -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.bin/make/arch.c cc -O3 -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/make -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.bin/make/buf.c cc -O3 -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/make -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.bin/make/compat.c cc -O3 -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/make -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.bin/make/cond.c cc -O3 -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/make -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.bin/make/dir.c cc -O3 -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/make -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.bin/make/hash.c cc -O3 -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/make -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.bin/make/job.c cc -O3 -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/make -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.bin/make/for.c cc: Internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 11 *** Error code 1 cc: Internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 11 *** Error code 1 2 errors *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error Gruss O. Hartmann ------------------------------------------------------------------- ohartman@ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de Klimadatenserver des IPA, Universitaet Mainz To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 10 6:31:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pawn.primelocation.net (pawn.primelocation.net [205.161.238.235]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2721914D67 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 06:30:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cdf.lists@fxp.org) Received: by pawn.primelocation.net (Postfix, from userid 1016) id 6232C9B22; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 09:30:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pawn.primelocation.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F7C6BA1D; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 09:30:41 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 09:30:41 -0500 (EST) From: "Chris D. Faulhaber" X-Sender: cdf.lists@pawn.primelocation.net To: "O. Hartmann" Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Error on compiling ... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 10 Nov 1999, O. Hartmann wrote: > Today I got the newest stuff from CVS (10th Nov 1999). > When trying to make world I get this error: > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> elf make world started on Wed Nov 10 15:22:10 CET 1999 > -------------------------------------------------------------- > cc: Internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 11 > *** Error code 1 > cc: Internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 11 > *** Error code 1 > 2 errors > *** Error code 2 > 1 error > *** Error code 2 > 1 error > *** Error code 2 > 1 error > http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/troubleshoot.html#AEN1083 ----- Chris D. Faulhaber | All the true gurus I've met never System/Network Administrator, | claimed they were one, and always Reality Check Information, Inc. | pointed to someone better. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 10 6:34:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from supra.rotterdam.luna.net (supra.rotterdam.luna.net [194.151.24.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 454A114D67 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 06:34:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stephanb@luna.nl) Received: (from stephanb@localhost) by supra.rotterdam.luna.net (•8.8.8/tcpwrp+ismx/8.8.8/chk+tcpwrpr) id PAA06451; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 15:33:03 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 15:33:03 +0100 From: Stephan van Beerschoten To: "O. Hartmann" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Error on compiling ... Message-ID: <19991110153302.L2341@supra.rotterdam.luna.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.6i In-Reply-To: ; from O. Hartmann on Wed, Nov 10, 1999 at 03:25:44PM +0100 Organization: Luna Internet Services http://www.luna.nl Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Nov 10, 1999 at 03:25:44PM +0100, O. Hartmann wrote: > Today I got the newest stuff from CVS (10th Nov 1999). > When trying to make world I get this error: > cc: Internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 11 Signal 11 links to faulty hardware. Have you -perhaps- overclocked your system ? If not .. try letting your system cool down a few minutes, and try ahain. Its certainly NOT A GOOD SIGN if these sig11's keep coming. Its not something we can change for your. Its your pjuter, not the FreeBSD code that generated this. -Steve -- Stephan van Beerschoten Email: stephanb@luna.nl Network Engineer Luna Internet Services www.luna.nl PO Box 28013 3003 KA Rotterdam NL PGPKey fingerprint = 45 57 97 61 B2 12 FB 4C 77 8D 35 29 C4 2A 2D 27 The perl script is correct if its get this job done before your boss fires you To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 10 7:23:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from goshen.rutgers.edu (goshen.rutgers.edu [165.230.180.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77DA714DDA for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 07:23:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from damascus@eden.rutgers.edu) Received: from damascus (damascus.dorm.rutgers.edu [165.230.0.68]) by goshen.rutgers.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA12098 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 10:23:40 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19991110101255.00ad7df0@email.eden.rutgers.edu> X-Sender: damascus@email.eden.rutgers.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 10:24:52 -0500 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Carroll Kong Subject: Tcp_wrappers - using 3.2-release Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi. I am using a commercial software that has hardcoded their lib_wrap (built into binary) to read in /etc/hosts.allow /etc/hosts.deny, however, they are using the old version / old format. I tried mixing and matching, no good. :) The final ALL: ALL in the /etc/hosts.allow that normally denies everything and backfingers and mails is being read in as a pass all for the hardcoded binary. The author suggested I recompile libwrap to point elsewhere. Ok. I went into /usr/src/lib/libwrap, modified the Makefile, make clean; make; make install. Ok. Now my /usr/lib has the new libwraps. However, do I have to recompile tcp_wrappers? I tried doing cd /usr/src/contrib/tcp_wrappers/ make REAL_DAEMON_DIR=/usr/sbin -DSTYLE=PROCESS_OPTIONS -DHOSTS_ALLOW="/etc/wrap/hosts.allow"...... freebsd, then as I read the compilation, it says that it is using "/etc/hosts.allow" instead! Basic problem: Need to get tcp_wrappers to read from a different directory. Potential solutions: 1) Use tcp_wrapper port, however, if I do, how do I get future ports to properly "wrap" against the port, since I have not properly uninstalled the default tcp_wrapper installation. 2) reinstall the lib_wrap and tcp_wrappers from my /usr/src tree so that they read in the /etc/wrap/hosts.* files instead of /etc/hosts.* 3) beg the author to statically recompile the binary just for me. Thanks guys. I would appreciate any kind of viable solution or work around. Thanks in advance! -Carroll Kong To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 10 7:27:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.sprawlnet.com (ns1.sprawlnet.com [208.224.169.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D98514DDA for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 07:27:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@sprawlnet.com) Received: from jedi (jedi.sprawlnet.com [208.224.169.134]) by ns1.sprawlnet.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with SMTP id XAA14615 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 23:29:07 GMT (envelope-from mike@sprawlnet.com) Message-ID: <001201bf2b8f$cd2820a0$86a9e0d0@sprawlnet.com> From: "Michael Steinfeld" To: Subject: sharing a single modem connection with natd. Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 10:25:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000F_01BF2B65.E1EA6770" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01BF2B65.E1EA6770 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have 2 computers in my home network. One of them is running FreeBSD = 3.3-Stable and the other Linux SuSE 6.1 =20 THe FreeBSD box has the modem in it which connects to my ISP and is = assigned a dynamic IP.=20 FreeBSD - pn0 is assigned 192.168.0.98 Linux - eth0 (rl0) is assigned 192.168.0.99 I set up natd as follows: 1) Compiled in options ipfirewall ipdivert in a new kernel 2) added natd_enable=3D"YES" firewall_enable=3D"YES" = gateway_enable=3D"YES" in rc.conf 3) I edited /etc/services natd 8668/divert # now i know this shouldnt be very difficult but there must be = something i am over-looking. After i compiling the new kernel ,editing the files i restarted my = Freebsd box. after using ' ppp -alias my-isp ' i run ' natd -interface tun0 ' The freebsd box is connected to the internet at this point, but the = linux box isnt. I set eth0 to use pn0's address as the gateway. what i ultimately want to do is share the one internet connection for = both box's. ( Yes, both box's are talking to one another) if i issue ' nslookup ' on the linux box after a considerable amount of = time i get an error message something similar to *** cant get name of = 196.1.6.8=20 which 196.1.6.8 happens to be the nameserver of my isp.=20 Any suggestions would greatly be appreciated. Michael Steinfeld | The only good is knowledge and the only evil = ignorance. --Socrates Unix Administrator | mike@sprawlnet.com // Salute to JGB and = The Boys .. still going down that road. Sprawlnet.com INC =20 ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01BF2B65.E1EA6770 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have 2 computers in my home network. One of them = is running=20 FreeBSD 3.3-Stable and the other Linux SuSE 6.1
 
THe FreeBSD box has the modem in it which connects = to my ISP=20 and is assigned a dynamic IP.
 
FreeBSD -  pn0 is assigned = 192.168.0.98
Linux -       eth0=20 (rl0) is assigned 192.168.0.99
 
I set up natd as follows:
 
1) Compiled in options ipfirewall ipdivert in a = new=20 kernel
2) added natd_enable=3D"YES" firewall_enable=3D"YES" = gateway_enable=3D"YES" in rc.conf
3) I edited /etc/services   natd  =20 8668/divert
 
 # now i know this shouldnt be very difficult = but there=20 must be something i am over-looking.
 
After i compiling the new kernel ,editing the files = i=20 restarted my Freebsd box.
 
after using ' ppp -alias my-isp ' i run ' natd = -interface tun0=20 '
 
The freebsd box is connected to the internet at this = point,=20 but the linux box isnt. I set eth0 to use pn0's address as the=20 gateway.
what i ultimately want to do is share the one = internet=20 connection for both box's.
 
( Yes, both box's are talking to one = another)
 
if i issue ' nslookup ' on the linux box after a = considerable=20 amount of time
i get an error message something similar to  = *** cant get=20 name of 196.1.6.8
which 196.1.6.8  happens to be the nameserver = of my isp.=20
 
 
Any suggestions would greatly be = appreciated.
 
 
 
Michael=20 Steinfeld         | The only = good is=20 knowledge and the only evil ignorance. --Socrates
Unix=20 Administrator       |  mike@sprawlnet.com  &nbs= p; //=20 Salute to JGB and The Boys .. still going down that = road.
Sprawlnet.com=20 INC    
------=_NextPart_000_000F_01BF2B65.E1EA6770-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 10 9:30:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from axl.noc.iafrica.com (axl.noc.iafrica.com [196.31.1.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8892D14C04 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 09:30:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sheldonh@axl.noc.iafrica.com) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.noc.iafrica.com) by axl.noc.iafrica.com with local-esmtp (Exim 3.040 #1) id 11lbZX-0003aF-00; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 19:30:15 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: Carroll Kong Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Tcp_wrappers - using 3.2-release In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 10 Nov 1999 10:24:52 EST." <4.2.0.58.19991110101255.00ad7df0@email.eden.rutgers.edu> Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 19:30:15 +0200 Message-ID: <13778.942255015@axl.noc.iafrica.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 10 Nov 1999 10:24:52 EST, Carroll Kong wrote: > 2) reinstall the lib_wrap and tcp_wrappers from my /usr/src > tree so that they read in the /etc/wrap/hosts.* files instead of > /etc/hosts.* Edit the following files to your taste and then ``make world'': /usr/src/lib/libwrap/Makefile /usr/src/usr.sbin/tcpdchk/Makefile /usr/src/contrib/tcp_wrappers/Makefile I think that's enough. Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 10 11:38:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from luna.lyris.net (luna.shelby.com [207.90.155.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80754152A5 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 11:38:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kip@lyris.com) Received: from luna.shelby.com by luna.lyris.net (8.9.1b+Sun/SMI-SVR4) id LAA04595; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 11:37:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from (luna.shelby.com [207.90.155.6]) by luna.shelby.com with SMTP (MailShield v1.50); Wed, 10 Nov 1999 11:37:55 -0700 Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 11:37:54 -0800 (PST) From: Kip Macy X-Sender: kip@luna To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: build failure Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-SMTP-HELO: luna X-SMTP-MAIL-FROM: kip@lyris.com X-SMTP-RCPT-TO: stable@freebsd.org X-SMTP-PEER-INFO: luna.shelby.com [207.90.155.6] Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am sending this here because -questions mailing list does not seem to be working. When I try and build 3.3-RELEASE I get the following error when doing > make buildworld ===> secure cd: can't cd to /usr/src/secure *** Error code 2 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. What am I doing wrong? -Kip To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 10 11:46:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from inhaler.noopy.org (h00a02419c5cd.ne.mediaone.net [24.128.51.156]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01D4214BF3 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 11:46:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nvp@Noopy.ORG) Received: (from nvp@localhost) by inhaler.noopy.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA40572 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 14:49:01 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 14:49:01 -0500 From: "Nathan V. Patwardhan" To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Error building stable sources 11/9/1999 Message-ID: <19991110144901.A40564@noopy.org> References: <19991109125656.A53737@noopy.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <19991109125656.A53737@noopy.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Nov 09, 1999 at 12:56:56PM -0500, Nathan V. Patwardhan wrote: : [snip] : mdprologue.o(.text+0x22): undefined reference to `_rtld' : mdprologue.o(.text+0x40): undefined reference to `_binder' : rtld.o: In function `reloc_map': : rtld.o(.text+0xe9d): undefined reference to `binder_entry' [snip] Uh, okay. So whatever happened before -- didn't happen again when I cvsup'ed (yet again) this morning. 'make buildworld' worked just fine. Hmmm. -- Nathan Patwardhan nvp@noopy.org "The good place for all who are Noopies" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 10 11:55: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at (vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at [128.130.111.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E34C3152F1 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 11:54:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pfeifer@dbai.tuwien.ac.at) Received: from markab (markab [128.130.111.33]) by vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA28596; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 20:54:24 +0100 (MET) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 20:54:23 +0100 (MET) From: Gerald Pfeifer To: Tom Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NFS in -stable In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 9 Nov 1999, Tom wrote: > Is NFSv2 or NFSv3 recommended for 3.2-stable? I'm primarily interested > in the NFS client, versus a NetApp NFS server. I don't know about NetApps and we haven't retested this with 3.3 on a better network, but a FreeBSD 3.2 client against a Solaris 2.6 server running NFSv3 is a big No! Caused us quite some (nearly) infinite hangs on the client side. Once we enforced NFSv2, all problems went away. Gerald -- Gerald "Jerry" pfeifer@dbai.tuwien.ac.at http://www.dbai.tuwien.ac.at/~pfeifer/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 10 12: 1:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ulysses.noc.ntua.gr (ulysses.noc.ntua.gr [147.102.222.230]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96C8714C8C for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 12:01:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from adamo@dblab.ece.ntua.gr) Received: from dblab.ece.ntua.gr (ithaca.dbnet.ece.ntua.gr [147.102.12.1]) by ulysses.noc.ntua.gr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA39745; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 22:01:06 +0200 (EET) Received: (from george@localhost) by dblab.ece.ntua.gr (8.10.0.Beta6/8.9.3) id dAAK16935570; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 22:01:06 +0200 (EET) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 22:01:06 +0200 From: Yiorgos Adamopoulos To: Kip Macy Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: build failure Message-ID: <19991110220106.A35548@dblab.ece.ntua.gr> Reply-To: adamo@dblab.ece.ntua.gr References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: ; from kip@lyris.com on Wed, Nov 10, 1999 at 11:37:54AM -0800 X-Organization: Knowledge and Data Base Systems Laboratory, National Technical University of Athens, GREECE X-URL: http://home.eu.org/~adamo X-Alt-Email: adamo@ieee.org X-Work-Phone: +30-1-772-1-436 X-Work-FAX: +30-1-772-1-442 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Nov 10, 1999 at 11:37:54AM -0800, Kip Macy wrote: > ===> secure > cd: can't cd to /usr/src/secure ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Can *you* cd there? Does it exist? Have you CVSuped it all? ------------------------------------ Yiorgos Adamopoulos To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 10 12:15:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from luna.lyris.net (luna.shelby.com [207.90.155.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 873FC14D92 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 12:15:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kip@lyris.com) Received: from luna.shelby.com by luna.lyris.net (8.9.1b+Sun/SMI-SVR4) id MAA04882; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 12:15:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from (luna.shelby.com [207.90.155.6]) by luna.shelby.com with SMTP (MailShield v1.50); Wed, 10 Nov 1999 12:15:21 -0700 Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 12:15:21 -0800 (PST) From: Kip Macy X-Sender: kip@luna To: Yiorgos Adamopoulos Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: build failure In-Reply-To: <19991110220106.A35548@dblab.ece.ntua.gr> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-SMTP-HELO: luna X-SMTP-MAIL-FROM: kip@lyris.com X-SMTP-RCPT-TO: adamo@dblab.ece.ntua.gr,stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-SMTP-PEER-INFO: luna.shelby.com [207.90.155.6] Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I just grabbed the source from ftp://ftp3.freebsd.org/u/FreeBSD/releases/i386/3.3-RELEASE/src/ and ran install.sh. That always built in the past when I grabbed it from ftp.freebsd.org, but the encryption source may no longer be included due to export restrictions. Is that the case? -Kip On Wed, 10 Nov 1999, Yiorgos Adamopoulos wrote: > On Wed, Nov 10, 1999 at 11:37:54AM -0800, Kip Macy wrote: > > ===> secure > > cd: can't cd to /usr/src/secure > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > Can *you* cd there? Does it exist? Have you CVSuped it all? > ------------------------------------ > Yiorgos Adamopoulos > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 10 12:24:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from typhoon.mail.pipex.net (typhoon.mail.pipex.net [158.43.128.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F394514E47 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 12:24:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: (qmail 12974 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 20:24:32 -0000 Received: from userbk53.uk.uudial.com (HELO marder-1.) (62.188.144.61) by smtp.dial.pipex.com with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 20:24:32 -0000 Received: (from mark@localhost) by marder-1. (8.9.3/8.8.8) id UAA01094; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 20:22:31 GMT (envelope-from mark) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 20:22:31 +0000 From: Mark Ovens To: "Chris D. Faulhaber" Cc: "O. Hartmann" , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Error on compiling ... Message-ID: <19991110202231.D319@marder-1> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Nov 10, 1999 at 09:30:41AM -0500, Chris D. Faulhaber wrote: > On Wed, 10 Nov 1999, O. Hartmann wrote: > > > Today I got the newest stuff from CVS (10th Nov 1999). > > When trying to make world I get this error: > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>> elf make world started on Wed Nov 10 15:22:10 CET 1999 > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > cc: Internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 11 > > *** Error code 1 > > cc: Internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 11 > > *** Error code 1 > > 2 errors > > *** Error code 2 > > 1 error > > *** Error code 2 > > 1 error > > *** Error code 2 > > 1 error > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/troubleshoot.html#AEN1083 > ...and http://www.bitwizard.nl/sig11/ it evens starts with: "My kernel compile crashes with gcc: Internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 11 What is wrong with the compiler? Which version of the compiler do I need? Is there something wrong with the kernel?" > ----- > Chris D. Faulhaber | All the true gurus I've met never > System/Network Administrator, | claimed they were one, and always > Reality Check Information, Inc. | pointed to someone better. > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- STATE-OF-THE-ART: Any computer you can't afford. OBSOLETE: Any computer you own. ________________________________________________________________ FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark/ mailto:mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 10 12:37:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from alcanet.com.au (border.alcanet.com.au [203.62.196.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41610151EE for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 12:37:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jeremyp@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au) Received: by border.alcanet.com.au id <40322>; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 07:31:19 +1100 Content-return: prohibited Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 07:37:12 +1100 From: Peter Jeremy Subject: Re: build failure In-reply-to: To: Kip Macy Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: peter.jeremy@alcatel.com.au Message-Id: <99Nov11.073119est.40322@border.alcanet.com.au> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3i Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii References: <19991110220106.A35548@dblab.ece.ntua.gr> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 1999-Nov-11 07:15:21 +1100, Kip Macy wrote: >I just grabbed the source from >ftp://ftp3.freebsd.org/u/FreeBSD/releases/i386/3.3-RELEASE/src/ >and ran install.sh. Did you delete your old /usr/src first? >On Wed, 10 Nov 1999, Yiorgos Adamopoulos wrote: >> On Wed, Nov 10, 1999 at 11:37:54AM -0800, Kip Macy wrote: >> > ===> secure >> > cd: can't cd to /usr/src/secure >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >> >> Can *you* cd there? You haven't answered this. This _is_ a critical point. For example, if /usr/src/secure is a dangling symlink, then you will your reported error. Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 10 12:57:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from luna.lyris.net (luna.shelby.com [207.90.155.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B153015266 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 12:57:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kip@lyris.com) Received: from luna.shelby.com by luna.lyris.net (8.9.1b+Sun/SMI-SVR4) id MAA05190; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 12:56:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from (luna.shelby.com [207.90.155.6]) by luna.shelby.com with SMTP (MailShield v1.50); Wed, 10 Nov 1999 12:56:56 -0700 Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 12:56:55 -0800 (PST) From: Kip Macy X-Sender: kip@luna To: Peter Jeremy Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: build failure In-Reply-To: <99Nov11.073119est.40322@border.alcanet.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-SMTP-HELO: luna X-SMTP-MAIL-FROM: kip@lyris.com X-SMTP-RCPT-TO: jeremyp@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au,stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-SMTP-PEER-INFO: luna.shelby.com [207.90.155.6] Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 11 Nov 1999, Peter Jeremy wrote: > On 1999-Nov-11 07:15:21 +1100, Kip Macy wrote: > >I just grabbed the source from > >ftp://ftp3.freebsd.org/u/FreeBSD/releases/i386/3.3-RELEASE/src/ > >and ran install.sh. > > Did you delete your old /usr/src first? Yes. > > >On Wed, 10 Nov 1999, Yiorgos Adamopoulos wrote: > >> On Wed, Nov 10, 1999 at 11:37:54AM -0800, Kip Macy wrote: > >> > ===> secure > >> > cd: can't cd to /usr/src/secure > >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > >> > >> Can *you* cd there? No. There was no secure directory. > > You haven't answered this. This _is_ a critical point. For example, > if /usr/src/secure is a dangling symlink, then you will your reported > error. > > Peter > > -Kip To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 10 15: 7:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sinai.dhs.org (adsl-216-103-54-61.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [216.103.54.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BFEA14CEE; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 15:07:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sab@sinai.dhs.org) Received: from localhost (sab@localhost) by sinai.dhs.org (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA11596; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 14:59:35 -0800 Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 14:59:35 -0800 (PST) From: Scott Benjamin To: stable@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org Subject: ldconfig finding libraries, but ld is not. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've installed some libs on my machine (3.3-STABLE 11-09-1999) in /usr/local/lib, via ports and some tarballs. I have let ldconfig_path in rc.conf. When I do a ldconfig -r -v -elf | grep libname, it finds the correct library. but when I try to link, the linker can't find the libraries. Any ideas? I'm a bit frustrated. I would prefer to not set LD_LIBRARY_PATH if at all possible. Regards, Scott To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 10 15:10:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pawn.primelocation.net (pawn.primelocation.net [205.161.238.235]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC1DC14F20; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 15:10:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cdf.lists@fxp.org) Received: by pawn.primelocation.net (Postfix, from userid 1016) id 874D99B25; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 18:10:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pawn.primelocation.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DAD9BA1D; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 18:10:35 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 18:10:35 -0500 (EST) From: "Chris D. Faulhaber" X-Sender: cdf.lists@pawn.primelocation.net To: Scott Benjamin Cc: stable@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ldconfig finding libraries, but ld is not. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 10 Nov 1999, Scott Benjamin wrote: > > I've installed some libs on my machine (3.3-STABLE 11-09-1999) in > /usr/local/lib, via ports and some tarballs. I have let ldconfig_path in > rc.conf. When I do a ldconfig -r -v -elf | grep libname, it finds the > correct library. but when I try to link, the linker can't find the > libraries. Any ideas? I'm a bit frustrated. I would prefer to not set > LD_LIBRARY_PATH if at all possible. > cc -L/usr/local/lib ..... ----- Chris D. Faulhaber | All the true gurus I've met never System/Network Administrator, | claimed they were one, and always Reality Check Information, Inc. | pointed to someone better. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 10 15:25:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F02C714D48; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 15:25:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bright@wintelcom.net) Received: from localhost (bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA01842; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 15:50:08 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 15:50:08 -0800 (PST) From: Alfred Perlstein To: Scott Benjamin Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ldconfig finding libraries, but ld is not. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 10 Nov 1999, Scott Benjamin wrote: > > I've installed some libs on my machine (3.3-STABLE 11-09-1999) in > /usr/local/lib, via ports and some tarballs. I have let ldconfig_path in > rc.conf. When I do a ldconfig -r -v -elf | grep libname, it finds the > correct library. but when I try to link, the linker can't find the > libraries. Any ideas? I'm a bit frustrated. I would prefer to not set > LD_LIBRARY_PATH if at all possible. you must either set LD_LIBRARY_PATH or use the -L/path/to/wierd/library/dir flag to gcc to tell it where to look. -Alfred To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 10 16:25:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.westbend.net (ns1.westbend.net [209.224.254.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1EEB15266 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 16:25:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hetzels@westbend.net) Received: from admin (admin.westbend.net [209.224.254.141]) by mail.westbend.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA89464; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 18:25:20 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from hetzels@westbend.net) Message-ID: <016a01bf2bdb$3cc77500$8dfee0d1@westbend.net> From: "Scot W. Hetzel" To: "Kip Macy" Cc: References: Subject: Re: build failure Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 18:25:19 -0600 Organization: West Bend Internet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6000 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG From: "Kip Macy" > I just grabbed the source from > ftp://ftp3.freebsd.org/u/FreeBSD/releases/i386/3.3-RELEASE/src/ > and ran install.sh. That always built in the past when I grabbed it from > ftp.freebsd.org, but the encryption source may no longer be included due > to export restrictions. Is that the case? The Crypto sources were never included in the src directory, you need to install them separately by getting them from the des directory (scrypto.*, skerbero.*, ssecure.*). NOTE: if your not in the US/CANADA you need to fetch them from ftp.internat.freebsd.org. Scot To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 10 18:14:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web1.allunix.com (17.93.ng.netgatepool.quiknet.com [207.231.93.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFD7A15416 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 18:14:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from david@allunix.com) Received: from windoze (windoze.allunix.com [192.168.0.3]) by web1.allunix.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA00245 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 18:29:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from david@allunix.com) Received: from lists.securityfocus.com (lists.securityfocus.com [207.126.127.68]) by web1.allunix.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA00751 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 09:41:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-bugtraq@SECURITYFOCUS.COM) Received: from lists.securityfocus.com (lists.securityfocus.com [207.126.127.68]) by lists.securityfocus.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBC311F926; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 09:06:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from LISTS.SECURITYFOCUS.COM by LISTS.SECURITYFOCUS.COM (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1061482 for BUGTRAQ@LISTS.SECURITYFOCUS.COM; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 09:05:48 -0800 Approved-By: aleph1@SECURITYFOCUS.COM Delivered-To: bugtraq@lists.securityfocus.com Received: from securityfocus.com (securityfocus.com [207.126.127.66]) by lists.securityfocus.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 37D611EEF6 for ; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 15:23:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 10750 invoked by alias); 9 Nov 1999 23:23:10 -0000 Delivered-To: BUGTRAQ@SECURITYFOCUS.COM Received: (qmail 10747 invoked from network); 9 Nov 1999 23:23:10 -0000 Received: from nwcst315.netaddress.usa.net (204.68.23.60) by securityfocus.com with SMTP; 9 Nov 1999 23:23:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 10541 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Nov 1999 23:23:48 -0000 Received: from 204.68.23.60 by nwcst315 for [199.174.164.143] via web-mailer(M3.3.1.96) on Tue Nov 9 23:23:48 GMT 1999 X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (M3.3.1.96) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: <19991109232348.10540.qmail@nwcst315.netaddress.usa.net> Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 16:23:48 MST Reply-To: Brock Tellier From: Brock Tellier Subject: Re: [Re: FreeBSD 3.3's seyon vulnerability] X-To: Bill Fumerola X-cc: BUGTRAQ@SECURITYFOCUS.COM To: BUGTRAQ@SECURITYFOCUS.COM Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by web1.allunix.com id JAA00751 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It would be nice if you: (a) filed a pr using send-pr(1) or the web interface or (b) contacted security-officer@FreeBSD.org or (c) sent mail to the maintainer of the port I've sent mail to security-officer@freebsd.org several times regarding the "faxalter" exploit and "amanda" exploit and recieved no response. Interestingly, now that I have neglected to send mail to this address, I've recieved a response from someone. You can't expect people to keep sending mail into the void until someone at FreeBSD decides that "this one is important enough". I gave the standard week or so to recieve email back for the previous vulnerabilities I reported and will do so in the future. If I don't hear back, you can bet I'll still post. Brock Tellier UNIX Systems Administrator Chicago, IL, USA ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 10 18:25:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from andrsn.stanford.edu (andrsn.Stanford.EDU [36.33.0.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 253C814C8C for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 18:25:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andrsn@andrsn.stanford.edu) Received: from localhost (andrsn@localhost.stanford.edu [127.0.0.1]) by andrsn.stanford.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA57357; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 18:18:44 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 18:18:44 -0800 (PST) From: Annelise Anderson To: Michael Steinfeld Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sharing a single modem connection with natd. In-Reply-To: <001201bf2b8f$cd2820a0$86a9e0d0@sprawlnet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG You probably need to fill out /etc/resolv.conf on the FreeBSD box, so it knows where to find the nameserver you want to use. Maybe some entries in /etc/hosts would help too. But, for what you're doing you really don't need the kernel firewall stuff or natd. ppp -alias or ppp -nat (same thing) will do it for you. Annelise On Wed, 10 Nov 1999, Michael Steinfeld wrote: > I have 2 computers in my home network. One of them is running FreeBSD 3.3-Stable and the other Linux SuSE 6.1 > > THe FreeBSD box has the modem in it which connects to my ISP and is assigned a dynamic IP. > > FreeBSD - pn0 is assigned 192.168.0.98 > Linux - eth0 (rl0) is assigned 192.168.0.99 > > I set up natd as follows: > > 1) Compiled in options ipfirewall ipdivert in a new kernel > 2) added natd_enable="YES" firewall_enable="YES" gateway_enable="YES" in rc.conf > 3) I edited /etc/services natd 8668/divert > > # now i know this shouldnt be very difficult but there must be something i am over-looking. > > After i compiling the new kernel ,editing the files i restarted my Freebsd box. > > after using ' ppp -alias my-isp ' i run ' natd -interface tun0 ' > > The freebsd box is connected to the internet at this point, but the linux box isnt. I set eth0 to use pn0's address as the gateway. > what i ultimately want to do is share the one internet connection for both box's. > > ( Yes, both box's are talking to one another) > > if i issue ' nslookup ' on the linux box after a considerable amount of time > i get an error message something similar to *** cant get name of 196.1.6.8 > which 196.1.6.8 happens to be the nameserver of my isp. > > > Any suggestions would greatly be appreciated. > > > > Michael Steinfeld | The only good is knowledge and the only evil ignorance. --Socrates > Unix Administrator | mike@sprawlnet.com // Salute to JGB and The Boys .. still going down that road. > Sprawlnet.com INC > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 10 18:48:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from luna.lyris.net (luna.shelby.com [207.90.155.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2993414BCA for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 18:48:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kip@lyris.com) Received: from luna.shelby.com by luna.lyris.net (8.9.1b+Sun/SMI-SVR4) id SAA08080; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 18:47:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from (luna.shelby.com [207.90.155.6]) by luna.shelby.com with SMTP (MailShield v1.50); Wed, 10 Nov 1999 18:47:58 -0700 Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 18:47:58 -0800 (PST) From: Kip Macy X-Sender: kip@luna To: "Scot W. Hetzel" Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: build failure In-Reply-To: <016a01bf2bdb$3cc77500$8dfee0d1@westbend.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-SMTP-HELO: luna X-SMTP-MAIL-FROM: kip@lyris.com X-SMTP-RCPT-TO: hetzels@westbend.net,stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-SMTP-PEER-INFO: luna.shelby.com [207.90.155.6] Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks. -Kip On Wed, 10 Nov 1999, Scot W. Hetzel wrote: > From: "Kip Macy" > > I just grabbed the source from > > ftp://ftp3.freebsd.org/u/FreeBSD/releases/i386/3.3-RELEASE/src/ > > and ran install.sh. That always built in the past when I grabbed it from > > ftp.freebsd.org, but the encryption source may no longer be included due > > to export restrictions. Is that the case? > > The Crypto sources were never included in the src directory, you need to > install them separately by getting them from the des directory (scrypto.*, > skerbero.*, ssecure.*). > > NOTE: if your not in the US/CANADA you need to fetch them from > ftp.internat.freebsd.org. > > Scot > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 10 20:31: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from klentaq.com (klentaq1.emergingtech.org [199.217.151.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7427D14DBA for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 20:31:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stabilizer@klentaq.com) Received: (from stabilizer@localhost) by klentaq.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) id WAA01899; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 22:40:38 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from stabilizer) From: Wayne M Barnes Message-Id: <199911110440.WAA01899@klentaq.com> Subject: Re: Help with ifconfig In-Reply-To: from "Jeffrey J. Libman" at "Nov 8, 1999 9:22:11 pm" To: jeffrl@wantabe.com (Jeffrey J. Libman) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 22:40:38 -0600 (CST) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org (FreeBSD Stable) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dear Jeff, Could you please give more details for how to "use lo0"? What is your ifconfig line, exactly? I have been having trouble implementing apache virtual hosting, and I would like to try your way. Please add other details, if you think of them. Thank you, Wayne M Barnes stabilizer@klentaq.com > this is normal. if you netstat -I ed1, you should see that the ip is > there. i believe this happens because the interface is already > ifconfig'd...but works. > > i use lo0 for my virtual hosting...it avoids the error message and works > fine. > > cheers, > jeff > > | > |\ +------------------------------+ > Jeffrey J. Libman, ops. mgr. | \ | Wantabe Internet Services | > Wantabe, Inc. |__\ +------------------------------+ > jeffrl@wantabe.com <-----|------> | access web cgi ftp news mail | > (281) 493-0718 __,.-=\'`^`'~=-../__,.-= +------------------------------+ > > On Mon, 8 Nov 1999, Vince Valenti wrote: > > > It's probably something blatantly obvious, but I can't seem to make aliases > > for an interface. > > > > When I type: > > > > # ifconfig ed1 inet 10.0.0.10 netmask 255.255.255.0 > > > > I get no errors. However, when I type this: > > > > # ifconfig ed1 inet 10.0.0.11 netmask 255.255.255.0 alias > > ifconfig: ioctl (SIOCAIFADDR): File exists > > > > I get the above error. > > > > Does anyone have any idea what I'm doing wrong? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Vince Valenti > > Senior Technical Engineer > > vValenti@LoansLive.Com > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 10 20:58:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web1.allunix.com (17.93.ng.netgatepool.quiknet.com [207.231.93.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E85D14DBA for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 20:58:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from davey@allunix.com) Received: from windoze (windoze.allunix.com [192.168.0.3]) by web1.allunix.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA00266; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 21:14:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from davey@allunix.com) Message-Id: <199911110514.VAA00266@web1.allunix.com> From: davey@allunix.com To: jeffrl@wantabe.com Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 21:00:03 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: ifconfig and apache Cc: freeBsd-stable@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199911110440.WAA01899@klentaq.com> References: from "Jeffrey J. Libman" at "Nov 8, 1999 9:22:11 pm" X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jeff, Try ifconfig ed1 10.0.0.11 netmask 0xffffffff I am not an expert but it works great everytime on my box. Why do you want to assign ip's to each virtual host. Apache will handle it, you can even set apache up so that the only thing you have to do to add a virtual host to your box is to add the dns entrys. > Dear Jeff, > > Could you please give more details for how to "use lo0"? > What is your ifconfig line, exactly? > I have been having trouble implementing apache virtual hosting, > and I would like to try your way. > Please add other details, if you think of them. > Thank you, > > Wayne M Barnes stabilizer@klentaq.com > > > > this is normal. if you netstat -I ed1, you should see that the ip is > > there. i believe this happens because the interface is already > > ifconfig'd...but works. > > > > i use lo0 for my virtual hosting...it avoids the error message and works > > fine. > > > > cheers, > > jeff > > > > | > > |\ +------------------------------+ > > Jeffrey J. Libman, ops. mgr. | \ | Wantabe Internet Services | > > Wantabe, Inc. |__\ +------------------------------+ > > jeffrl@wantabe.com <-----|------> | access web cgi ftp news mail | > > (281) 493-0718 __,.-=\'`^`'~=-../__,.-= +------------------------------+ > > > > On Mon, 8 Nov 1999, Vince Valenti wrote: > > > > > It's probably something blatantly obvious, but I can't seem to make aliases > > > for an interface. > > > > > > When I type: > > > > > > # ifconfig ed1 inet 10.0.0.10 netmask 255.255.255.0 > > > > > > I get no errors. However, when I type this: > > > > > > # ifconfig ed1 inet 10.0.0.11 netmask 255.255.255.0 alias > > > ifconfig: ioctl (SIOCAIFADDR): File exists > > > > > > I get the above error. > > > > > > Does anyone have any idea what I'm doing wrong? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Vince Valenti > > > Senior Technical Engineer > > > vValenti@LoansLive.Com > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 10 21: 4: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from klentaq.com (klentaq1.emergingtech.org [199.217.151.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E6131541B for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 21:04:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stabilizer@klentaq.com) Received: (from stabilizer@localhost) by klentaq.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) id XAA01984; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 23:14:51 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from stabilizer) From: Wayne M Barnes Message-Id: <199911110514.XAA01984@klentaq.com> Subject: Re: ethernet hard or soft failure In-Reply-To: from Bill Marquette at "Nov 8, 1999 11: 6:53 am" To: billm@danger.ms (Bill Marquette) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 23:14:51 -0600 (CST) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org (FreeBSD Stable) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dear Bill :( Our network guru has looked for rogue cards or laptops on our dept. network and found none. I have increased maxusers to 256, and have tried NMBCLUSTERS at 1024, 4096, (and currently 16K; too recent for results, yet.) I have increased my bpf units to 24. I have set up a cron job to run every 15 minutes and log the DIFF against the last time, then DATE, to http://barnes1.wustl.edu/wayne/NMB [Here is testNMB* which crontab runs every 15 minutes: netstat -m | diff NMB.boring - | grep ">" >> ~wayne/NMB.log date >> ~wayne/NMB.log netstat -m > ~wayne/NMB.boring ] No luck so far. Every weekday between 1 and 4 or so, my NIC card stops transmitting across the network. The console is stays up, but no pings can get out, nor can anyone log in from anywhere else. Our network guy JJ found a recommendation on "Deja News" (I don't know where that is) to increase kern.vm.kmem.size as the next resort. I don't know what a the current value is, or what a reasonable next level is. I can't tell by inspecting source mbuf.h, either. It's well concealed, if it's there. Wayne M Barnes stabilizer@klentaq.com > Wayne, I'm curious to see if you ever got your ethernet issues resolved. > I'm currently having VERY similar issues with a -CURRENT box. My NIC's > have been 3com 3c905 and generic DEC 2104x chipset cards, FYI. So far for > me the only thing that's helped (hasn't fixed it, but helped) has been to > disable my screensaver in X. > > --Bill > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 10 21:13:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sinai.dhs.org (adsl-216-103-54-61.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [216.103.54.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4B241541E; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 21:13:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sab@sinai.dhs.org) Received: from localhost (sab@localhost) by sinai.dhs.org (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA12190; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 21:05:23 -0800 Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 21:05:23 -0800 (PST) From: Scott Benjamin To: Alfred Perlstein Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ldconfig finding libraries, but ld is not. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've tried the LD_LIBRARY_PATH and it still doesn't work. Any more suggestions? Scott On Wed, 10 Nov 1999, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > On Wed, 10 Nov 1999, Scott Benjamin wrote: > > > > > I've installed some libs on my machine (3.3-STABLE 11-09-1999) in > > /usr/local/lib, via ports and some tarballs. I have let ldconfig_path in > > rc.conf. When I do a ldconfig -r -v -elf | grep libname, it finds the > > correct library. but when I try to link, the linker can't find the > > libraries. Any ideas? I'm a bit frustrated. I would prefer to not set > > LD_LIBRARY_PATH if at all possible. > > you must either set LD_LIBRARY_PATH or use the -L/path/to/wierd/library/dir > flag to gcc to tell it where to look. > > -Alfred > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 10 21:37:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from unicorn.blackhats.org (unicorn.blackhats.org [194.109.83.155]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB45214D25 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 21:37:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from unicorn@blackhats.org) Received: by unicorn.blackhats.org (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 9EA7012C01; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 04:56:25 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 04:56:25 +0100 From: The Unicorn To: Michael Steinfeld Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sharing a single modem connection with natd. Message-ID: <19991111045625.T66052@unicorn.blackhats.org> References: <001201bf2b8f$cd2820a0$86a9e0d0@sprawlnet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre4i In-Reply-To: <001201bf2b8f$cd2820a0$86a9e0d0@sprawlnet.com>; from mike@sprawlnet.com on Wed, Nov 10, 1999 at 10:25:17AM -0500 X-Files: The Truth Is Out There! Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Michael! On Wed, 10 Nov 1999, Michael Steinfeld wrote: > I have 2 computers in my home network. One of them is running FreeBSD > 3.3-Stable and the other Linux SuSE 6.1 > > The FreeBSD box has the modem in it which connects to my ISP and is > assigned a dynamic IP. > > FreeBSD - pn0 is assigned 192.168.0.98 > Linux - eth0 (rl0) is assigned 192.168.0.99 > > I set up natd as follows: > > 1) Compiled in options ipfirewall ipdivert in a new kernel > 2) added natd_enable="YES" firewall_enable="YES" gateway_enable="YES" in rc.conf > 3) I edited /etc/services natd 8668/divert > > # now i know this shouldnt be very difficult but there must be > something i am over-looking. Yes you are... > After i compiling the new kernel, editing the files i restarted my > Freebsd box. > > after using ' ppp -alias my-isp ' i run ' natd -interface tun0 ' > > The freebsd box is connected to the internet at this point, but the > linux box isnt. I set eth0 to use pn0's address as the gateway. what i > ultimately want to do is share the one internet connection for both > box's. Which is very similar to the configuration I have running, only difference is that I have some more boxes connected and am using ISDN to connect to the Internet. > ( Yes, both box's are talking to one another) Of course they are :-) > if i issue ' nslookup ' on the linux box after a considerable amount > of time i get an error message something similar to *** cant get name > of 196.1.6.8 which 196.1.6.8 happens to be the nameserver of my isp. Right, and that is where the "problem" lies. You have activated the ipfw firewall, but by default the rule is set to deny all traffic. So setup your firewall rules in /etc/rc.firewall and you should be OK. > Any suggestions would greatly be appreciated. Like I wrote above set up your firewall rules. If you just want to check the configuration then the command "ipfw add allow ip from any to any" would be sufficient. But beware since you then have opened your box to basically allow all trafic from/to the Internet. A better way is to read the ipfw manual page and set up the ipfw firewall rules you need. > Michael Steinfeld --- End of Quoted Text --- Ciao, Unicorn. -- ======= _ __,;;;/ TimeWaster ================================================ ,;( )_, )~\| A Truly Wise Man Never Plays PGP: 64 07 5D 4C 3F 81 22 73 ;; // `--; Leapfrog With A Unicorn... 52 9D 87 08 51 AA 35 F0 ==='= ;\ = | ==== Youth is Not a Time in Life, It is a State of Mind! ======= Echelon Teasers: NSA CIA FBI Mossad BVD MI5 Cocaine Cuba Revolution Espionage To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 10 21:58:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com [24.2.89.207]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E8F514D7B; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 21:58:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cjc@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com) Received: (from cjc@localhost) by cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA45854; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 01:01:57 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cjc) From: "Crist J. Clark" Message-Id: <199911110601.BAA45854@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com> Subject: Re: ldconfig finding libraries, but ld is not. In-Reply-To: from Scott Benjamin at "Nov 10, 1999 09:05:23 pm" To: sab@sinai.dhs.org (Scott Benjamin) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 01:01:57 -0500 (EST) Cc: bright@wintelcom.net (Alfred Perlstein), stable@FreeBSD.ORG, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: cjclark@home.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Scott Benjamin wrote, > On Wed, 10 Nov 1999, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > > > On Wed, 10 Nov 1999, Scott Benjamin wrote: > > > > > > > > I've installed some libs on my machine (3.3-STABLE 11-09-1999) in > > > /usr/local/lib, via ports and some tarballs. I have let ldconfig_path in > > > rc.conf. When I do a ldconfig -r -v -elf | grep libname, it finds the > > > correct library. but when I try to link, the linker can't find the > > > libraries. Any ideas? I'm a bit frustrated. I would prefer to not set > > > LD_LIBRARY_PATH if at all possible. > > > > you must either set LD_LIBRARY_PATH or use the -L/path/to/wierd/library/dir > > flag to gcc to tell it where to look. > > > > -Alfred > > > > I've tried the LD_LIBRARY_PATH and it still doesn't work. Any more > suggestions? Did you try using the '-L' option on the compile command line? And you are using the '-l' option too? For example, you are trying to include /usr/local/libweird.a in your executable, you would need to have '-L/usr/local/lib -lweird' on the compile command line (if you are using default Makefile rules, just add the quoted portion to the LDCONFIG variable). IIRC, both ldconfig(8) and LD_LIBRARY_PATH are for the _runtime_ shared library linker and have nothing to do compiling programs. -- Crist J. Clark cjclark@home.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 10 22: 4: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from diarmadhi.mushhaven.net (diarmadhi.mushhaven.net [63.75.111.197]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03AE414F3D for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 22:04:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mistwolf@diarmadhi.mushhaven.net) Received: (from mistwolf@localhost) by diarmadhi.mushhaven.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA72545 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 22:03:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mistwolf) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 22:03:24 -0800 From: Jamie Norwood To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ldconfig finding libraries, but ld is not. Message-ID: <19991110220324.A72518@mushhaven.net> References: <199911110601.BAA45854@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3i In-Reply-To: <199911110601.BAA45854@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Nov 11, 1999 at 01:01:57AM -0500, Crist J. Clark wrote: > > > > I've installed some libs on my machine (3.3-STABLE 11-09-1999) in > > > > /usr/local/lib, via ports and some tarballs. I have let ldconfig_path in > > > > rc.conf. When I do a ldconfig -r -v -elf | grep libname, it finds the > > > > correct library. but when I try to link, the linker can't find the > > > > libraries. Any ideas? I'm a bit frustrated. I would prefer to not set > > > > LD_LIBRARY_PATH if at all possible. > > Did you try using the '-L' option on the compile command line? And you > are using the '-l' option too? For example, you are trying to include > /usr/local/libweird.a in your executable, you would need to have > '-L/usr/local/lib -lweird' on the compile command line (if you are > using default Makefile rules, just add the quoted portion to the > LDCONFIG variable). > > IIRC, both ldconfig(8) and LD_LIBRARY_PATH are for the _runtime_ > shared library linker and have nothing to do compiling programs. I actually have/had a PR open on this, as it is non-intuitive and non-standard to both not include /usr/local/lib and LD_LIBRARY_PATH in the search path when compiling; I even on one machine went so far as to install everything in /usr/lib just so things compile sanely for my less than FreeBSD-savvy users, and am currently looking into migrating to Linux to fully cure the problem. Jamie > -- > Crist J. Clark cjclark@home.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 10 22: 7:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (GndRsh.dnsmgr.net [198.145.92.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 787B814F3D for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 22:07:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: (from freebsd@localhost) by gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA79532; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 22:06:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199911110606.WAA79532@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Subject: Re: ethernet hard or soft failure In-Reply-To: <199911110514.XAA01984@klentaq.com> from Wayne M Barnes at "Nov 10, 1999 11:14:51 pm" To: stabilizer@klentaq.com (Wayne M Barnes) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 22:06:58 -0800 (PST) Cc: billm@danger.ms (Bill Marquette), freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD Stable) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Dear Bill > > :( > > Our network guru has looked for rogue cards or laptops on our > dept. network and found none. Has he put a thermometer inside your computer case.... that would be my next step. Also for the fellow below with the 21x4x cards, watch out there have been a lot of bad chips since Intel took the production of this over, they tend to stop talking on the wire anywhere from 15 min to 2 days of power on. Seems to be thermally related. Kingston now replaces them without even a question when I call with another one doing this. The problem is not resticted to Kingston cards as I have seen it on generic cards as well, and seems to inflict only the DC21x4x chips with the word ``Intel'' on them, the ones that say ``Digital'' have always worked just fine :-) > I have increased maxusers to 256, and have tried NMBCLUSTERS at 1024, > 4096, (and currently 16K; too recent for results, yet.) > > I have increased my bpf units to 24. > > I have set up a cron job to run every 15 minutes and log the > DIFF against the last time, then DATE, to > http://barnes1.wustl.edu/wayne/NMB > [Here is testNMB* which crontab runs every 15 minutes: > netstat -m | diff NMB.boring - | grep ">" >> ~wayne/NMB.log > date >> ~wayne/NMB.log > netstat -m > ~wayne/NMB.boring > ] > > No luck so far. Every weekday between 1 and 4 or so, my NIC card stops > transmitting across the network. The console is stays up, but no pings > can get out, nor can anyone log in from anywhere else. What does the link light on the hub show is going on? Usually when I see this thermal problem the hub light will either be going nuts, or on the partitioning hubs it shows the port has gone into jabber mode and has been partitioned out of the network. > Our network guy JJ found a recommendation on "Deja News" (I don't know > where that is) to increase kern.vm.kmem.size as the next resort. I > don't know what a the current value is, or what a reasonable next level > is. I can't tell by inspecting source mbuf.h, either. It's well > concealed, if it's there. > > Wayne M Barnes stabilizer@klentaq.com > > > Wayne, I'm curious to see if you ever got your ethernet issues resolved. > > I'm currently having VERY similar issues with a -CURRENT box. My NIC's > > have been 3com 3c905 and generic DEC 2104x chipset cards, FYI. So far for > > me the only thing that's helped (hasn't fixed it, but helped) has been to > > disable my screensaver in X. This could perhaps lower the thermal temperature in your chassis, please check your ventalation and internal temperature. Look for dead power supply fans, etc. Oh, and look for an Intel branded DC21x4x chip... -- Rod Grimes - KD7CAX @ CN85sl - (RWG25) rgrimes@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 10 22:27:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kot.ne.mediaone.net (kot.ne.mediaone.net [24.218.15.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 885571543F for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 22:27:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mi@kot.ne.mediaone.net) Received: from rtfm.newton (rtfm.newton [10.10.0.1]) by kot.ne.mediaone.net (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA19982; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 01:27:21 -0500 (EST) From: Mikhail Teterin X-Relay-IP: 10.10.0.1 Received: (from mi@localhost) by rtfm.newton (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA63269; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 01:27:21 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mi@kot.ne.mediaone.net) Message-Id: <199911110627.BAA63269@rtfm.newton> Subject: Re: ldconfig finding libraries, but ld is not. In-Reply-To: <19991110220324.A72518@mushhaven.net> from Jamie Norwood at "Nov 10, 1999 10:03:24 pm" To: Jamie Norwood Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 01:27:21 -0500 (EST) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: %UW#n0|w>ydeGt/b@1-.UFP=K^~-:0f#O:D7w hJ5G_<5143Bb3kOIs9XpX+"V+~$adGP:J|SLieM31VIhqXeLBli" IIRC, both ldconfig(8) and LD_LIBRARY_PATH are for the _runtime_ => shared library linker and have nothing to do compiling programs. = =I actually have/had a PR open on this, as it is non-intuitive and =non-standard to both not include /usr/local/lib and LD_LIBRARY_PATH in =the search path when compiling; Mmm, "standard"? What standard are you refering to? "Intuition" is too subjective... =I even on one machine went so far as to install everything in /usr/lib =just so things compile sanely for my less than FreeBSD-savvy users, and =am currently looking into migrating to Linux to fully cure the problem. Now, that's a threat :) AFAIK, on Linux the self-built packages tend to also install into /usr/local. Depending on the C-compiler in use, /usr/local/lib may or may not be present in the default library path. The later versions of GCC (egcs) seem to include it -- on FreeBSD too, which is, probably, an oversight of the porter. I don't see what your problem is, to be honest. Your "users" will have to learn how to add directories to the link-time search path anyway. They will have libs in their own ~/lib and other locations, which can not all be listed as default. Also, remember about /usr/X11R6/lib. Some will want /opt/lib as well, etc. -mi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 10 23:21:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from guru.phone.net (guru.phone.net [216.240.39.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BFD5F15457 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 23:21:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mwm@phone.net) Received: (qmail 78453 invoked by uid 100); 11 Nov 1999 07:20:54 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14378.28246.28493.440833@guru.phone.net> Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 23:20:54 -0800 (PST) To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ldconfig finding libraries, but ld is not. In-Reply-To: <199911110627.BAA63269@rtfm.newton> References: <19991110220324.A72518@mushhaven.net> <199911110627.BAA63269@rtfm.newton> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 3) "Acadia" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mikhail Teterin writes: ;->=> IIRC, both ldconfig(8) and LD_LIBRARY_PATH are for the _runtime_ ;->=> shared library linker and have nothing to do compiling programs. ;->=I actually have/had a PR open on this, as it is non-intuitive and ;->=non-standard to both not include /usr/local/lib and LD_LIBRARY_PATH in ;->=the search path when compiling; ;->Mmm, "standard"? What standard are you refering to? "Intuition" is too ;->subjective... I didn't start this, but the standard ports heirarchy is that libraries from packages and ports go into /usr/local/lib. The system doesn't search all the standard places that software from FreeBSD puts libraries. This is bad. Yes, there are lots of such places. That doesn't make the situation not be bad - that just makes it more painfull, and harder to fix. ;->=I even on one machine went so far as to install everything in /usr/lib ;->=just so things compile sanely for my less than FreeBSD-savvy users, and ;->=am currently looking into migrating to Linux to fully cure the problem. ;->Now, that's a threat :) AFAIK, on Linux the self-built packages tend to ;->also install into /usr/local. That may be true. But rpms - "packages" in FreeBSD terms - all go into /usr. If packages didn't go into /usr/local, then not searching /usr/local/lib wouldn't be a problem. ;->I don't see what your problem is, to be honest. Your "users" will have ;->to learn how to add directories to the link-time search path anyway. Only if they are going to be installing new libraries in non-standard places, or building their own. Not everyone does that. Not even all software developers do those things. ;->They will have libs in their own ~/lib and other locations, which can ;->not all be listed as default. Also, remember about /usr/X11R6/lib. Some ;->will want /opt/lib as well, etc. /opt? Haven't run into that one on a Linux system yet. I still curse at regular intervals at the ports/packages collection installing things in /usr/local. That means I need another place for things that I maintain, instead of came with FreeBSD. Putting everything in /usr is one such solution. /opt is another (but having everything have it's own hierarchy pretty much sucks). ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 23:53:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from billm@danger.ms) Received: by nuke.danger.ms (Postfix, from userid 1010) id 2803328B1C; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 21:53:43 -1000 (HST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nuke.danger.ms (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A16024D18; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 21:53:42 -1000 (HST) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 21:53:42 -1000 (HST) From: Bill Marquette To: "Rodney W. Grimes" Cc: Wayne M Barnes , FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: ethernet hard or soft failure In-Reply-To: <199911110606.WAA79532@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 10 Nov 1999, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > No luck so far. Every weekday between 1 and 4 or so, my NIC card stops > > transmitting across the network. The console is stays up, but no pings > > can get out, nor can anyone log in from anywhere else. > > What does the link light on the hub show is going on? Usually when I see > this thermal problem the hub light will either be going nuts, or on the > partitioning hubs it shows the port has gone into jabber mode and has > been partitioned out of the network. For me the hub has always been sitting there with a solid link light showing no activity. I should point out that I run -CURRENT as it's a personal workstation and I'm doing some development work that would benefit from being done on -CURRENT. I'm merely dropping in on this as I'm having similar issues. > > > have been 3com 3c905 and generic DEC 2104x chipset cards, FYI. So far for > > > me the only thing that's helped (hasn't fixed it, but helped) has been to > > > disable my screensaver in X. > > This could perhaps lower the thermal temperature in your chassis, please > check your ventalation and internal temperature. Look for dead power > supply fans, etc. Oh, and look for an Intel branded DC21x4x chip... None of the above I'm afraid. The machine in question is running an original 10MBit DEC card from well over a year ago now with NO problems until I switched to FreeBSD. As for heat, I'd buy that three months ago, there's now so damn many fans in this case adding another one would only increase noise and not help temperature and the only fan blowing out warm air is the one in the power supply. As I've posted on the -CURRENT lists, I can duplicate the issue by raising the network load to around 100K/sec...usually I see the NIC die w/in minutes. For reference, my 3com 3c905 card would just die with a no route to host error and then eventually come back; this again is with near no network activity and at the time a screensaver (Matrix from KDE to be precise). Anyways, I'll be trying out -STABLE on this machine this weekend sometime cause my problems are probably a -CURRENT issue that nobody else is having. Just trying to get to the bottom of it and grabbing on to ANYONE standing nearby ;-P Thanks!!! --Bill To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 11 1: 5:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (GndRsh.dnsmgr.net [198.145.92.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B3E115452 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 01:05:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: (from freebsd@localhost) by gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA79929; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 01:03:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199911110903.BAA79929@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Subject: Re: ethernet hard or soft failure In-Reply-To: from Bill Marquette at "Nov 10, 1999 09:53:42 pm" To: billm@danger.ms (Bill Marquette) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 01:03:48 -0800 (PST) Cc: stabilizer@klentaq.com (Wayne M Barnes), freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD Stable) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Wed, 10 Nov 1999, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > > No luck so far. Every weekday between 1 and 4 or so, my NIC card stops > > > transmitting across the network. The console is stays up, but no pings > > > can get out, nor can anyone log in from anywhere else. > > > > What does the link light on the hub show is going on? Usually when I see > > this thermal problem the hub light will either be going nuts, or on the > > partitioning hubs it shows the port has gone into jabber mode and has > > been partitioned out of the network. > > For me the hub has always been sitting there with a solid link light > showing no activity. I should point out that I run -CURRENT as it's a > personal workstation and I'm doing some development work that would > benefit from being done on -CURRENT. I'm merely dropping in on this as > I'm having similar issues. Okay, but like you say latter, this may be a -current issue, which I don't run much of around here except when I am trying to get some news bits ported over from -current to -stable. > > > > > have been 3com 3c905 and generic DEC 2104x chipset cards, FYI. So far for > > > > me the only thing that's helped (hasn't fixed it, but helped) has been to > > > > disable my screensaver in X. > > > > This could perhaps lower the thermal temperature in your chassis, please > > check your ventalation and internal temperature. Look for dead power > > supply fans, etc. Oh, and look for an Intel branded DC21x4x chip... > > None of the above I'm afraid. The machine in question is running an > original 10MBit DEC card from well over a year ago now with NO problems > until I switched to FreeBSD. Okay, I have not seen this problem on older cards, though it started to happen with cards made in early 1999, and I should mention it only seems to inflict the DC2114x cards, I had been saying 21x4x, but it is only the 100Mb/s cards. > As for heat, I'd buy that three months ago, > there's now so damn many fans in this case adding another one would only > increase noise and not help temperature and the only fan blowing out warm > air is the one in the power supply. Ahhh... lots of fans is not always the correct solution to thermal issues, especially when you let me know that they are all inlet fans except the one exhaust fan. You have a high positive pressure created if your inlet CFM exceeds your outlet CFM and this can cause really strange airflows inside the chassis. Also when I here ``blowing out warm air'' it does infact tell me that a significant temperature rise is occuring inside the chassis some place, and that is bad news. Proper airflow through a chassis should cause less than a 5 or so degree C rise. The exhaust air should not feel warm to the human hand, if it does something is wrong with the cooling system. You might try flipping the direction on some of your fans so that the number of fans blowing air out of the chassis is somewhat closer, but still slightly less than the number blowing in. This retains the anti-dust measure of having a positive pressure chassis (assuming the inlet fans have filters over them ;-o) and often produces much better cooling. > > As I've posted on the -CURRENT lists, I can duplicate the issue by raising > the network load to around 100K/sec...usually I see the NIC die w/in > minutes. For reference, my 3com 3c905 card would just die with a no route > to host error and then eventually come back; this again is with near no > network activity and at the time a screensaver (Matrix from KDE to be > precise). Any more data than ``just dies''? > > Anyways, I'll be trying out -STABLE on this machine this weekend sometime > cause my problems are probably a -CURRENT issue that nobody else is > having. Just trying to get to the bottom of it and grabbing on to ANYONE > standing nearby ;-P Thats probably a safe move :-) > > Thanks!!! Welcome.. -- Rod Grimes - KD7CAX @ CN85sl - (RWG25) rgrimes@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 11 2: 8:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tantivy.stanford.edu (tantivy.Stanford.EDU [36.118.0.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8769E14C8E for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 02:08:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from techie@tantivy.stanford.edu) Received: (from techie@localhost) by tantivy.stanford.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) id CAA16461; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 02:05:08 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 02:05:08 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Vaughan Message-Id: <199911111005.CAA16461@tantivy.stanford.edu> To: billm@danger.ms, freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net Subject: Re: ethernet hard or soft failure Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, stabilizer@klentaq.com In-Reply-To: <199911110903.BAA79929@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > From: "Rodney W. Grimes" > Subject: Re: ethernet hard or soft failure > To: billm@danger.ms (Bill Marquette) > Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 01:03:48 -0800 (PST) > Cc: stabilizer@klentaq.com (Wayne M Barnes), > freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD Stable) > > As for heat, I'd buy that three months ago, > > there's now so damn many fans in this case adding another one would only > > increase noise and not help temperature and the only fan blowing out warm > > air is the one in the power supply. > > Ahhh... lots of fans is not always the correct solution to thermal issues, > especially when you let me know that they are all inlet fans except the > one exhaust fan. You have a high positive pressure created if your inlet > CFM exceeds your outlet CFM and this can cause really strange airflows > inside the chassis. > > Also when I here ``blowing out warm air'' it does infact tell me that > a significant temperature rise is occuring inside the chassis some place, > and that is bad news. Proper airflow through a chassis should cause less > than a 5 or so degree C rise. The exhaust air should not feel warm to the > human hand, if it does something is wrong with the cooling system. > > You might try flipping the direction on some of your fans so that the > number of fans blowing air out of the chassis is somewhat closer, but > still slightly less than the number blowing in. This retains the anti-dust > measure of having a positive pressure chassis (assuming the inlet fans > have filters over them ;-o) and often produces much better cooling. > Additional thoughts on cooling.. tidy up your internal cabling.. it's hard to blow thru a forest of ribbon cables. make sure you have good airflow from bottom to top, and put your exhaust fans above the inlet fans, and on opposite sides on the case. if you can't put fans on both sides, consider internal baffles to direct airflow across hotspots. don't forget to check your air filters for clogging. depending on your environment, you may want to make it a checklist item on a weekly or monthly basis. put a thermometer in the case. move it around, and try to find the hot areas. look at how your cards are arranged, and how much heat each one produces. allow some airspace around hot cards, and try to locate them where there is good airflow. consider splitting the heat load across multiple chassis. I tend to put the the cpu + cdrom in one box, and the disks in another (if using multiple disks). -- Welcome My Son, Welcome To The Machine -- Bob Vaughan | techie@{w6yx|tantivy}.stanford.edu | kc6sxc@w6yx.ampr.org | P.O. Box 9792, Stanford, Ca 94309-9792 -- I am Me, I am only Me, And no one else is Me, What could be simpler? -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 11 4:45:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from binnacle.wantabe.com (binnacle.wantabe.com [209.16.8.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 996D214D05 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 04:45:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jeffrl@wantabe.com) Received: from localhost (jeffrl@localhost) by binnacle.wantabe.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id GAA12924; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 06:45:00 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from jeffrl@wantabe.com) X-Authentication-Warning: binnacle.wantabe.com: jeffrl owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 06:45:00 -0600 (CST) From: "Jeffrey J. Libman" To: Wayne M Barnes Cc: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: Help with ifconfig In-Reply-To: <199911110440.WAA01899@klentaq.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG for freeBSD this is the simplest: i have the following lines in /etc/rc.conf: ifconfig_lo0_alias1="inet 209.16.8.6 netmask 0xffffff00" ifconfig_lo0_alias2="inet 209.16.8.7 netmask 0xffffff00" ifconfig_lo0_alias3="inet 209.16.8.82 netmask 0xffffff00" ifconfig_lo0_alias4="inet 209.16.8.87 netmask 0xffffff00" ifconfig_lo0_alias5="inet 209.16.8.122 netmask 0xffffff00" ifconfig_lo0_alias6="inet 209.16.8.10 netmask 0xffffff00" ifconfig_lo0_alias7="inet 209.16.8.102 netmask 0xffffff00" ifconfig_lo0_alias8="inet 209.16.8.206 netmask 0xffffff00" the rc.network code reads these and does the ifconfig lines automatically. the only other thing needed: if you want the world to actually "see" these addresses, besides in apache, via ping, traceroute, etc, you need to turn on the proxy arp in rc.conf thusly: arpproxy_all="YES" hoping this helps. cheers, jeff | |\ +------------------------------+ Jeffrey J. Libman, ops. mgr. | \ | Wantabe Internet Services | Wantabe, Inc. |__\ +------------------------------+ jeffrl@wantabe.com <-----|------> | access web cgi ftp news mail | (281) 493-0718 __,.-=\'`^`'~=-../__,.-= +------------------------------+ On Wed, 10 Nov 1999, Wayne M Barnes wrote: > Dear Jeff, > > Could you please give more details for how to "use lo0"? > What is your ifconfig line, exactly? > I have been having trouble implementing apache virtual hosting, > and I would like to try your way. > Please add other details, if you think of them. > Thank you, > > Wayne M Barnes stabilizer@klentaq.com > > > > this is normal. if you netstat -I ed1, you should see that the ip is > > there. i believe this happens because the interface is already > > ifconfig'd...but works. > > > > i use lo0 for my virtual hosting...it avoids the error message and works > > fine. > > > > cheers, > > jeff > > > > | > > |\ +------------------------------+ > > Jeffrey J. Libman, ops. mgr. | \ | Wantabe Internet Services | > > Wantabe, Inc. |__\ +------------------------------+ > > jeffrl@wantabe.com <-----|------> | access web cgi ftp news mail | > > (281) 493-0718 __,.-=\'`^`'~=-../__,.-= +------------------------------+ > > > > On Mon, 8 Nov 1999, Vince Valenti wrote: > > > > > It's probably something blatantly obvious, but I can't seem to make aliases > > > for an interface. > > > > > > When I type: > > > > > > # ifconfig ed1 inet 10.0.0.10 netmask 255.255.255.0 > > > > > > I get no errors. However, when I type this: > > > > > > # ifconfig ed1 inet 10.0.0.11 netmask 255.255.255.0 alias > > > ifconfig: ioctl (SIOCAIFADDR): File exists > > > > > > I get the above error. > > > > > > Does anyone have any idea what I'm doing wrong? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Vince Valenti > > > Senior Technical Engineer > > > vValenti@LoansLive.Com > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 11 5:43:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from news.lucky.net (news.lucky.net [193.193.193.102]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABC7514D75 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 05:43:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ak@finukr.com.ua) Received: (from mail@localhost) by news.lucky.net (8.Who.Cares/8.Who.Cares) id PQT05328 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 15:43:34 +0200 (envelope-from ak@finukr.com.ua) From: "Alexey Kurbatov" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Fax server? Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 15:43:14 +0200 Organization: Unknown Message-ID: <80eh50$4i8$1@news.lucky.net> X-Trace: news.lucky.net 942327776 4680 193.193.194.70 (11 Nov 1999 13:42:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@news.lucky.net X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2417.2000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 7 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi! Help me, please! Where can I get Fax server application (port) for Free BDS? Thanks. Alexey Kurbatov. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 11 5:54:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pooh.elsevier.nl (pooh.elsevier.nl [145.36.9.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77F6F14D95 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 05:54:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from steve@pooh.elsevier.nl) Received: (from steve@localhost) by pooh.elsevier.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA85913; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 12:53:38 GMT (envelope-from steve) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <80eh50$4i8$1@news.lucky.net> Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 12:53:37 -0000 (GMT) From: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" To: Alexey Kurbatov Subject: RE: Fax server? Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 11-Nov-99 Alexey Kurbatov wrote: > Hi! > Help me, please! > Where can I get Fax server application (port) for Free BDS? > Thanks. > Alexey Kurbatov. /usr/ports/comms/hylafax ------------------------------------------------------- Tell a computer to WIN and ... ... You lose ------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 11 8:41:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from klentaq.com (klentaq1.emergingtech.org [199.217.151.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B021714CA7 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 08:41:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stabilizer@klentaq.com) Received: (from stabilizer@localhost) by klentaq.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) id KAA02871; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 10:52:10 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from stabilizer) From: Wayne M Barnes Message-Id: <199911111652.KAA02871@klentaq.com> Subject: Re: ethernet hard or soft failure In-Reply-To: <199911110616.BAA63189@rtfm.newton> from Mikhail Teterin at "Nov 11, 1999 1:16:33 am" To: mi@kot.ne.mediaone.net (Mikhail Teterin) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 10:52:10 -0600 (CST) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org (FreeBSD Stable) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dear M I, When your cron job runs, everyone will be knocked off their jobs, no? Or is it harmless, and they just get a 1 sec. blip, without their xterms or sessions dying? How could I run your line of commands only when the link is down? By the way, I should have pointed out that my cron job captured a crash (see log at http://barnes1.wustl.edu/wayne/NMB): > 303/320 mbufs in use: > 244 mbufs allocated to data > 59 mbufs allocated to packet headers > 14/62/4096 mbuf clusters in use (current/peak/max) > 164 Kbytes allocated to network (40% in use) Tue Nov 9 12:45:00 CST 1999 LOCKUP OF INTERNET CONNECTON OCCURS -- REBOOT AT 12:47 I was hoping the many mbufs in use was a clue, although the available mbuf clusters do not seem to be near saturated. 15 minute time points are not very illuminating. Wayne M Barnes stabilizer@klentaq.com > I continue having my ISA ep-card lock up every so often (under heavy > traffic in both directions). My workaround is a cron-job: > > ifconfig ep0 down; sleep 1; ifconfig ep0 up > > -mi > > Wayne M Barnes once stated: > > =Dear Bill > = > = :( > = > = Our network guru has looked for rogue cards or laptops on our > =dept. network and found none. > = > = I have increased maxusers to 256, and have tried NMBCLUSTERS at 1024, > =4096, (and currently 16K; too recent for results, yet.) > = > = I have increased my bpf units to 24. > = > = I have set up a cron job to run every 15 minutes and log the > =DIFF against the last time, then DATE, to > =http://barnes1.wustl.edu/wayne/NMB > =[Here is testNMB* which crontab runs every 15 minutes: > =netstat -m | diff NMB.boring - | grep ">" >> ~wayne/NMB.log > =date >> ~wayne/NMB.log > =netstat -m > ~wayne/NMB.boring > =] > = > = No luck so far. Every weekday between 1 and 4 or so, my NIC card stops > =transmitting across the network. The console is stays up, but no pings > =can get out, nor can anyone log in from anywhere else. > = > = Our network guy JJ found a recommendation on "Deja News" (I don't know > =where that is) to increase kern.vm.kmem.size as the next resort. I > =don't know what a the current value is, or what a reasonable next level > =is. I can't tell by inspecting source mbuf.h, either. It's well > =concealed, if it's there. > = > =Wayne M Barnes stabilizer@klentaq.com > = > => Wayne, I'm curious to see if you ever got your ethernet issues resolved. > => I'm currently having VERY similar issues with a -CURRENT box. My NIC's > => have been 3com 3c905 and generic DEC 2104x chipset cards, FYI. So far for > => me the only thing that's helped (hasn't fixed it, but helped) has been to > => disable my screensaver in X. > => > => --Bill > => > => > = > = > = > =To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > =with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > = > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 11 9:47:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from jktmail02.indosat.net.id (jktmail02.indosat.net.id [202.155.15.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7B8314CA2 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 09:47:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andy@bozo.dhs.org) Received: from mrican.yogya.linux.or.id ([202.155.16.69]) by jktmail02.indosat.net.id with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.977.9); Fri, 12 Nov 1999 00:42:30 +0700 Received: (qmail 11345 invoked by uid 500); 11 Nov 1999 17:53:03 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 17:53:03 -0000 Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 00:53:03 +0700 (JAVT) From: Andy Permana To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: is there any support for ca-810 motherboard Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi guys, is there any support for intel's new chipset 810 ? On intel motherboard (ca-810) i can't get the kernel to be compiled on that system. i always get kernel panic when compiling xfree and other ports :( i already upgraded the bios' motherboard and not using udma-66 cable provided by the motherboard. When compiling kernel, the error messages show up randomly like this In file included from ../../sys/kernel.h:279, from ../../netinet/tcp_usrreq.c:41: ../../sys/module.h:53: parse error at null character ../../sys/module.h:62: parse error before `}' ....... *** Error code 1 and whet i execute make again the error messages shows differently ../../netinet/tcp_usrreq.c:340: warning: `ostate' might be used uninitialized in this function *** Error code 1 and i have to type make again again again and again to make the kernel compiled (is this true ?) Is this because freebsd-stable doesn't support intel's new chipset ca810 or something else? Any viable help/solutions will be appreciated. thankyou -andy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 11 9:59: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from misha.cisco.com (misha.cisco.com [171.69.206.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97BB014E4E for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 09:58:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mi@misha.cisco.com) Received: (from mi@localhost) by misha.cisco.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id MAA02627; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 12:58:18 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mi) Message-Id: <199911111758.MAA02627@misha.cisco.com> Subject: Re: is there any support for ca-810 motherboard In-Reply-To: from Andy Permana at "Nov 12, 1999 00:53:03 am" To: Andy Permana Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 12:58:17 -0500 (EST) Cc: stable@freebsd.org Reply-To: mi@aldan.algebra.com From: Mikhail Teterin X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL60 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Andy Permana once wrote: > On intel motherboard (ca-810) i can't get the kernel to be compiled on > that system. [...] > When compiling kernel, the error messages show up randomly like this > > In file included from ../../sys/kernel.h:279, > from ../../netinet/tcp_usrreq.c:41: > ../../sys/module.h:53: parse error at null character > ../../sys/module.h:62: parse error before `}' > ....... > *** Error code 1 This happened to me a couple of times on the not so hot MB (not sure what chipset, but it is at least a year old). [...] Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Pentium II/Xeon/Celeron (334.09-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x651 Stepping = 1 Features=0x183f9ff real memory = 134217728 (131072K bytes) avail memory = 125890560 (122940K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0446000. Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled [...] Somehow, some files get zero-filled. A bug, obviously :( A workaround for me was to remove the file and see re-created. But for you, it seems, the problem is a lot more severe, and the bug really does show up. You may need to wait for one of the kernel gurus to get the same motherboard and fix the problem, which exists but is a lot harder to reproduce on the older ones. -mi > and whet i execute make again the error messages shows differently > > ../../netinet/tcp_usrreq.c:340: warning: `ostate' might be used > uninitialized in this function > *** Error code 1 > > and i have to type make again again again and again to make the kernel > compiled (is this true ?) > > Is this because freebsd-stable doesn't support intel's new chipset ca810 > or something else? > > Any viable help/solutions will be appreciated. > thankyou > > -andy > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 11 10: 1:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from evil.2y.net (port-4-249.adsl.one.net [216.2.1.249]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36F5714E8B for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 10:01:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cokane@evil.2y.net) Received: (from cokane@localhost) by evil.2y.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA69670 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 13:02:24 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cokane) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 13:02:23 -0500 From: Coleman Kane To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Make world failing Message-ID: <19991111130223.A65788@evil.2y.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I have been having make world compile on both of my machines due to something in the assert.h header file included by /usr/src/lib/libc/gen/assert.c and /usr/src/lib/libstand/assert.c. I remedied this problem by including the assert.h from the /usr/include directory in both of these files. I haven't had time to look through the assert.h included by either of these yet. --cokane Coleman Kane To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 11 10:18:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sol.freibergnet.de (sol.freibergnet.de [194.123.255.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB20E15285 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 10:18:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mw@sol.freibergnet.de) Received: (from mw@localhost) by sol.freibergnet.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA47689; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 19:17:58 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mw) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 19:17:58 +0100 From: Martin Welk To: Alexey Kurbatov Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fax server? Message-ID: <19991111191758.C45723@sol.freibergnet.de> References: <80eh50$4i8$1@news.lucky.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.5i In-Reply-To: <80eh50$4i8$1@news.lucky.net>; from Alexey Kurbatov on Thu, Nov 11, 1999 at 03:43:14PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Nov 11, 1999 at 03:43:14PM +0200, Alexey Kurbatov wrote: > Hi! > Help me, please! > Where can I get Fax server application (port) for Free BDS? > Thanks. > Alexey Kurbatov. cd /usr/ports/comms/hylafax make all install Additional clients are avaiable for MacOS and Windows, setup may be tricky. Regards, Martin -- FreibergNet Systemhaus GbR Martin Welk * Sales, Support Systemhaus für Daten- und Netzwerktechnik phone +49 3731 781387 Unternehmensgruppe Liebscher & Partner fax +49 3731 781377 D-09599 Freiberg * Am St. Niclas Schacht 13 http://www.freibergnet.de/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 11 11:10:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from amanda.swlct.sthames.nhs.uk (hide14.nhs.uk [194.6.81.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1735514C0E for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 11:10:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from greg@swlct.sthames.nhs.uk) Received: from greg.swlct.sthames.nhs.uk (qmh-00553.qmpgmc.ac.uk [10.1.20.82]) by amanda.swlct.sthames.nhs.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA01388 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 18:59:48 GMT Message-ID: <001301bf2c79$34e5bec0$5214010a@swlct.sthames.nhs.uk> From: "Greg Quinlan" To: References: Subject: Slapd (LDAP) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 19:16:07 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG HELP!! Is any one using the slapd (ldap) services, if so can they point me to a good reference site, as all the man pages refer to the Ldap Administrators Guide :( Thanks Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 11 11:42:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ulysses.noc.ntua.gr (ulysses.noc.ntua.gr [147.102.222.230]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A41D314BF4 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 11:42:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from adamo@dblab.ece.ntua.gr) Received: from dblab.ece.ntua.gr (ithaca.dbnet.ece.ntua.gr [147.102.12.1]) by ulysses.noc.ntua.gr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA10584; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 21:42:29 +0200 (EET) Received: (from george@localhost) by dblab.ece.ntua.gr (8.10.0.Beta6/8.9.3) id dABJgTO26688; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 21:42:29 +0200 (EET) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 21:42:29 +0200 From: Yiorgos Adamopoulos To: Greg Quinlan Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Slapd (LDAP) Message-ID: <19991111214229.A24265@dblab.ece.ntua.gr> Reply-To: adamo@dblab.ece.ntua.gr References: <001301bf2c79$34e5bec0$5214010a@swlct.sthames.nhs.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <001301bf2c79$34e5bec0$5214010a@swlct.sthames.nhs.uk>; from greg@swlct.sthames.nhs.uk on Thu, Nov 11, 1999 at 07:16:07PM -0000 X-Organization: Knowledge and Data Base Systems Laboratory, National Technical University of Athens, GREECE X-URL: http://home.eu.org/~adamo X-Alt-Email: adamo@ieee.org X-Work-Phone: +30-1-772-1-436 X-Work-FAX: +30-1-772-1-442 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Nov 11, 1999 at 07:16:07PM -0000, Greg Quinlan wrote: > Is any one using the slapd (ldap) services, if so can they point me to a > good reference site, as all the man pages refer to the Ldap Administrators > Guide :( http://www.openldap.org/ http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/ <- The LDAP book ------------------------------------ Yiorgos Adamopoulos To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 11 12:20:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shell.futuresouth.com (shell.futuresouth.com [198.78.58.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9EA714F50 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 12:20:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fullermd@futuresouth.com) Received: (from fullermd@localhost) by shell.futuresouth.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA25503; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 14:20:10 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 14:20:10 -0600 From: "Matthew D. Fuller" To: "Jeffrey J. Libman" Cc: Wayne M Barnes , FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: Help with ifconfig Message-ID: <19991111142009.Y393@futuresouth.com> References: <199911110440.WAA01899@klentaq.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3i In-Reply-To: X-OS: FreeBSD Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Nov 11, 1999 at 06:45:00AM -0600, a little birdie told me that Jeffrey J. Libman remarked > for freeBSD this is the simplest: > > i have the following lines in /etc/rc.conf: > > ifconfig_lo0_alias1="inet 209.16.8.6 netmask 0xffffff00" > ifconfig_lo0_alias2="inet 209.16.8.7 netmask 0xffffff00" > ifconfig_lo0_alias3="inet 209.16.8.82 netmask 0xffffff00" > ifconfig_lo0_alias4="inet 209.16.8.87 netmask 0xffffff00" > ifconfig_lo0_alias5="inet 209.16.8.122 netmask 0xffffff00" > ifconfig_lo0_alias6="inet 209.16.8.10 netmask 0xffffff00" > ifconfig_lo0_alias7="inet 209.16.8.102 netmask 0xffffff00" > ifconfig_lo0_alias8="inet 209.16.8.206 netmask 0xffffff00" > > the rc.network code reads these and does the ifconfig lines automatically. This becomes ungodly ugly when you have 3 or 4 C's. Better to use an external script. And do you REALLY want a /24 netmask on all of them?? -- Matthew Fuller (MF4839) | fullermd@over-yonder.net Unix Systems Administrator | fullermd@futuresouth.com Specializing in FreeBSD | http://www.over-yonder.net/ FutureSouth Communications | ISPHelp ISP Consulting "The only reason I'm burning my candle at both ends, is because I haven't figured out how to light the middle yet" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 11 12:38:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from s01.arpa-canada.net (s01.arpa-canada.net [209.104.122.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C566914D6F for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 12:38:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from matt@BabCom.ORG) Received: by s01.arpa-canada.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 49AF7B889; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 15:38:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by s01.arpa-canada.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43159E; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 15:38:21 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 15:38:21 -0500 (EST) From: matt X-Sender: matt@s01.arpa-canada.net To: "Matthew D. Fuller" Cc: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: Help with ifconfig In-Reply-To: <19991111142009.Y393@futuresouth.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 11 Nov 1999, Matthew D. Fuller wrote: [...] : This becomes ungodly ugly when you have 3 or 4 C's. Better to use an : external script. And do you REALLY want a /24 netmask on all of them?? I made a script called /etc/rc.ifconfig, I suppose this should be /usr/local/etc for technical correctness, but it works nicer than the ifconfig_ed0_aliasX types in /etc/rc.conf, I make rc.local call rc.ifconfig- This is what it looks like: -- rc.ifconfig start -- #!/bin/sh echo -n 'Binding Aliased IPs...' i=3 j=128 while test ${i} -lt ${j} ; do /sbin/ifconfig ed0 inet 209.104.122.${i} netmask 0xffffffff alias 2>/dev/null i=`/bin/expr ${i} + 1` done echo " done" -- rc.ifconfig end -- [...] Matt -- "If the primates that we came from had known that someday politicians would come out of the...the gene pool, they'd a stayed up in the trees and written evolution off as a bad idea. Hell, I always thought the opposable thumb was overrated." -Sheridan, "A Distant Star" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 11 12:48:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tupac.portal.v.pl (LEPAK.with.GALS.and.FuCk.Em.At.portal.v.pl [212.160.101.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2FC014BE0 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 12:47:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mleczo@tupac.portal.v.pl) Received: (from mleczo@localhost) by tupac.portal.v.pl (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA29325; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 22:48:31 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mleczo) Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 22:48:31 +0100 (CET) From: mleczo Message-Id: <199911132148.WAA29325@tupac.portal.v.pl> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-URL: http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/stable.html X-Mailer: Lynx, Version 2.8.1rel.2 Subject: http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/stable.html Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I would like to subscirbe Thx To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 11 13:13: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from klentaq.com (klentaq1.emergingtech.org [199.217.151.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A24614C82 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 13:12:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stabilizer@klentaq.com) Received: (from stabilizer@localhost) by klentaq.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) id PAA03191; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 15:23:06 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from stabilizer) From: Wayne M Barnes Message-Id: <199911112123.PAA03191@klentaq.com> Subject: Re: ethernet hard or soft failure In-Reply-To: <199911111650.LAA02139@misha.cisco.com> from Mikhail Teterin at "Nov 11, 1999 11:50:16 am" To: mi@aldan.algebra.com Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 15:23:06 -0600 (CST) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org (FreeBSD Stable) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dear M.I., Thank you for your suggestion of how to conditionally reset my NIC card. I show below my full implementation. We'll see if my FreeBSD3.3 system is more stable now. Here is my root crontab line: * * * * * ~wayne/testNIC.sh Here is my script file testNIC.sh (expanded from your suggestion): #!/usr/local/bin/tcsh ping -c 1 128.252.120.1 > /dev/null || \ (~wayne/testNMB; \ echo RESET NIC CARD by testNIC.sh >> ~wayne/NMB.log; \ ifconfig rl0 down; sleep 1; ifconfig rl0 up) Here is my script file testNMB netstat -m | diff NMB.boring - | grep ">" >> ~wayne/NMB.log date >> ~wayne/NMB.log echo testNMB >> ~wayne/NMB.log netstat -m > ~wayne/NMB.boring If my card is thermally hot, or something (my fan seems okay to me), I'll get one or two outputs from this in my NMB.log, available at http://barnes1.wustl.edu/wayne/NMB for awhile. Wayne M Barnes stabilizer@klentaq.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 11 13:31: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from irbs.irbs.com (irbs.irbs.com [209.36.62.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B1B514D30 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 13:30:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jc@irbs.com) Received: (from jc@localhost) by irbs.irbs.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA20215; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 16:30:44 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19991111163043.26294@irbs.com> Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 16:30:44 -0500 From: John Capo To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Patch to Support DLINK Quad 21143 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The -stable de driver can not force the DLINK 570TX link speed or duplex mode. Autonegotiation works for 10Mbs half duplex and for 100Mbs full or half duplex. The patch below allows link speed and duplex mode to be set with ifconfig. 10Mbs full duplex autonegotiation is still broken. This patch is against -stable but the modified routine, tulip_media_set(), is the same in -current. A modified tulip_media_set() follows the patch. It would be nice to know if this patch fixes single port 21143 cards. I am sure that 21143 handling is going to be special case depending on the manufacturer and card type. It will be nice when 8255X quad cards are available at resonable prices. John Capo Index: sys/pci/if_de.c =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/cvs/src/sys/pci/if_de.c,v retrieving revision 1.93.2.3 diff -c -r1.93.2.3 if_de.c *** if_de.c 1999/08/29 16:31:35 1.93.2.3 --- if_de.c 1999/11/11 19:51:15 *************** *** 364,402 **** } TULIP_CSR_WRITE(sc, csr_sia_general, mi->mi_gpcontrol); TULIP_CSR_WRITE(sc, csr_sia_general, mi->mi_gpdata); ! } else if (mi->mi_type == TULIP_MEDIAINFO_MII ! && sc->tulip_probe_state != TULIP_PROBE_INACTIVE) { ! int idx; ! if (sc->tulip_features & TULIP_HAVE_SIAGP) { ! const u_int8_t *dp; ! dp = &sc->tulip_rombuf[mi->mi_reset_offset]; ! for (idx = 0; idx < mi->mi_reset_length; idx++, dp += 2) { ! DELAY(10); ! TULIP_CSR_WRITE(sc, csr_sia_general, (dp[0] + 256 * dp[1]) << 16); } - sc->tulip_phyaddr = mi->mi_phyaddr; - dp = &sc->tulip_rombuf[mi->mi_gpr_offset]; - for (idx = 0; idx < mi->mi_gpr_length; idx++, dp += 2) { - DELAY(10); - TULIP_CSR_WRITE(sc, csr_sia_general, (dp[0] + 256 * dp[1]) << 16); - } - } else { - for (idx = 0; idx < mi->mi_reset_length; idx++) { - DELAY(10); - TULIP_CSR_WRITE(sc, csr_gp, sc->tulip_rombuf[mi->mi_reset_offset + idx]); - } - sc->tulip_phyaddr = mi->mi_phyaddr; - for (idx = 0; idx < mi->mi_gpr_length; idx++) { - DELAY(10); - TULIP_CSR_WRITE(sc, csr_gp, sc->tulip_rombuf[mi->mi_gpr_offset + idx]); - } } if (sc->tulip_flags & TULIP_TRYNWAY) { tulip_mii_autonegotiate(sc, sc->tulip_phyaddr); } else if ((sc->tulip_flags & TULIP_DIDNWAY) == 0) { u_int32_t data = tulip_mii_readreg(sc, sc->tulip_phyaddr, PHYREG_CONTROL); data &= ~(PHYCTL_SELECT_100MB|PHYCTL_FULL_DUPLEX|PHYCTL_AUTONEG_ENABLE); sc->tulip_flags &= ~TULIP_DIDNWAY; if (TULIP_IS_MEDIA_FD(media)) data |= PHYCTL_FULL_DUPLEX; if (TULIP_IS_MEDIA_100MB(media)) --- 364,406 ---- } TULIP_CSR_WRITE(sc, csr_sia_general, mi->mi_gpcontrol); TULIP_CSR_WRITE(sc, csr_sia_general, mi->mi_gpdata); ! } else if (mi->mi_type == TULIP_MEDIAINFO_MII) { ! if (sc->tulip_probe_state != TULIP_PROBE_INACTIVE) { ! int idx; ! if (sc->tulip_features & TULIP_HAVE_SIAGP) { ! const u_int8_t *dp; ! dp = &sc->tulip_rombuf[mi->mi_reset_offset]; ! for (idx = 0; idx < mi->mi_reset_length; idx++, dp += 2) { ! DELAY(10); ! TULIP_CSR_WRITE(sc, csr_sia_general, (dp[0] + 256 * dp[1]) << 16); ! } ! sc->tulip_phyaddr = mi->mi_phyaddr; ! dp = &sc->tulip_rombuf[mi->mi_gpr_offset]; ! for (idx = 0; idx < mi->mi_gpr_length; idx++, dp += 2) { ! DELAY(10); ! TULIP_CSR_WRITE(sc, csr_sia_general, (dp[0] + 256 * dp[1]) << 16); ! } ! } else { ! for (idx = 0; idx < mi->mi_reset_length; idx++) { ! DELAY(10); ! TULIP_CSR_WRITE(sc, csr_gp, sc->tulip_rombuf[mi->mi_reset_offset + idx]); ! } ! sc->tulip_phyaddr = mi->mi_phyaddr; ! for (idx = 0; idx < mi->mi_gpr_length; idx++) { ! DELAY(10); ! TULIP_CSR_WRITE(sc, csr_gp, sc->tulip_rombuf[mi->mi_gpr_offset + idx]); ! } } } + if (sc->tulip_flags & TULIP_TRYNWAY) { tulip_mii_autonegotiate(sc, sc->tulip_phyaddr); } else if ((sc->tulip_flags & TULIP_DIDNWAY) == 0) { u_int32_t data = tulip_mii_readreg(sc, sc->tulip_phyaddr, PHYREG_CONTROL); data &= ~(PHYCTL_SELECT_100MB|PHYCTL_FULL_DUPLEX|PHYCTL_AUTONEG_ENABLE); sc->tulip_flags &= ~TULIP_DIDNWAY; + TULIP_CSR_WRITE(sc, csr_sia_connectivity, TULIP_SIACONN_RESET); + TULIP_CSR_WRITE(sc, csr_sia_tx_rx, 0); if (TULIP_IS_MEDIA_FD(media)) data |= PHYCTL_FULL_DUPLEX; if (TULIP_IS_MEDIA_100MB(media)) ---- tulip_media_set() ---- static void tulip_media_set( tulip_softc_t * const sc, tulip_media_t media) { const tulip_media_info_t *mi = sc->tulip_mediums[media]; if (mi == NULL) return; /* * If we are switching media, make sure we don't think there's * any stale RX activity */ sc->tulip_flags &= ~TULIP_RXACT; if (mi->mi_type == TULIP_MEDIAINFO_SIA) { TULIP_CSR_WRITE(sc, csr_sia_connectivity, TULIP_SIACONN_RESET); TULIP_CSR_WRITE(sc, csr_sia_tx_rx, mi->mi_sia_tx_rx); if (sc->tulip_features & TULIP_HAVE_SIAGP) { TULIP_CSR_WRITE(sc, csr_sia_general, mi->mi_sia_gp_control|mi->mi_sia_general|TULIP_SIAGEN_WATCHDOG); DELAY(50); TULIP_CSR_WRITE(sc, csr_sia_general, mi->mi_sia_gp_data|mi->mi_sia_general|TULIP_SIAGEN_WATCHDOG); } else { TULIP_CSR_WRITE(sc, csr_sia_general, mi->mi_sia_general|TULIP_SIAGEN_WATCHDOG); } TULIP_CSR_WRITE(sc, csr_sia_connectivity, mi->mi_sia_connectivity); } else if (mi->mi_type == TULIP_MEDIAINFO_GPR) { #define TULIP_GPR_CMDBITS (TULIP_CMD_PORTSELECT|TULIP_CMD_PCSFUNCTION|TULIP_CMD_SCRAMBLER|TULIP_CMD_TXTHRSHLDCTL) /* * If the cmdmode bits don't match the currently operating mode, * set the cmdmode appropriately and reset the chip. */ if (((mi->mi_cmdmode ^ TULIP_CSR_READ(sc, csr_command)) & TULIP_GPR_CMDBITS) != 0) { sc->tulip_cmdmode &= ~TULIP_GPR_CMDBITS; sc->tulip_cmdmode |= mi->mi_cmdmode; tulip_reset(sc); } TULIP_CSR_WRITE(sc, csr_gp, TULIP_GP_PINSET|sc->tulip_gpinit); DELAY(10); TULIP_CSR_WRITE(sc, csr_gp, (u_int8_t) mi->mi_gpdata); } else if (mi->mi_type == TULIP_MEDIAINFO_SYM) { /* * If the cmdmode bits don't match the currently operating mode, * set the cmdmode appropriately and reset the chip. */ if (((mi->mi_cmdmode ^ TULIP_CSR_READ(sc, csr_command)) & TULIP_GPR_CMDBITS) != 0) { sc->tulip_cmdmode &= ~TULIP_GPR_CMDBITS; sc->tulip_cmdmode |= mi->mi_cmdmode; tulip_reset(sc); } TULIP_CSR_WRITE(sc, csr_sia_general, mi->mi_gpcontrol); TULIP_CSR_WRITE(sc, csr_sia_general, mi->mi_gpdata); } else if (mi->mi_type == TULIP_MEDIAINFO_MII) { if (sc->tulip_probe_state != TULIP_PROBE_INACTIVE) { int idx; if (sc->tulip_features & TULIP_HAVE_SIAGP) { const u_int8_t *dp; dp = &sc->tulip_rombuf[mi->mi_reset_offset]; for (idx = 0; idx < mi->mi_reset_length; idx++, dp += 2) { DELAY(10); TULIP_CSR_WRITE(sc, csr_sia_general, (dp[0] + 256 * dp[1]) << 16); } sc->tulip_phyaddr = mi->mi_phyaddr; dp = &sc->tulip_rombuf[mi->mi_gpr_offset]; for (idx = 0; idx < mi->mi_gpr_length; idx++, dp += 2) { DELAY(10); TULIP_CSR_WRITE(sc, csr_sia_general, (dp[0] + 256 * dp[1]) << 16); } } else { for (idx = 0; idx < mi->mi_reset_length; idx++) { DELAY(10); TULIP_CSR_WRITE(sc, csr_gp, sc->tulip_rombuf[mi->mi_reset_offset + idx]); } sc->tulip_phyaddr = mi->mi_phyaddr; for (idx = 0; idx < mi->mi_gpr_length; idx++) { DELAY(10); TULIP_CSR_WRITE(sc, csr_gp, sc->tulip_rombuf[mi->mi_gpr_offset + idx]); } } } if (sc->tulip_flags & TULIP_TRYNWAY) { tulip_mii_autonegotiate(sc, sc->tulip_phyaddr); } else if ((sc->tulip_flags & TULIP_DIDNWAY) == 0) { u_int32_t data = tulip_mii_readreg(sc, sc->tulip_phyaddr, PHYREG_CONTROL); data &= ~(PHYCTL_SELECT_100MB|PHYCTL_FULL_DUPLEX|PHYCTL_AUTONEG_ENABLE); sc->tulip_flags &= ~TULIP_DIDNWAY; TULIP_CSR_WRITE(sc, csr_sia_connectivity, TULIP_SIACONN_RESET); TULIP_CSR_WRITE(sc, csr_sia_tx_rx, 0); if (TULIP_IS_MEDIA_FD(media)) data |= PHYCTL_FULL_DUPLEX; if (TULIP_IS_MEDIA_100MB(media)) data |= PHYCTL_SELECT_100MB; tulip_mii_writereg(sc, sc->tulip_phyaddr, PHYREG_CONTROL, data); } } } To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 11 13:45:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shell.futuresouth.com (shell.futuresouth.com [198.78.58.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59B8F14C9E for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 13:45:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fullermd@futuresouth.com) Received: (from fullermd@localhost) by shell.futuresouth.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA02698; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 15:45:39 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 15:45:39 -0600 From: "Matthew D. Fuller" To: matt Cc: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: Help with ifconfig Message-ID: <19991111154539.A393@futuresouth.com> References: <19991111142009.Y393@futuresouth.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3i In-Reply-To: X-OS: FreeBSD Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Nov 11, 1999 at 03:38:21PM -0500, a little birdie told me that matt remarked > On Thu, 11 Nov 1999, Matthew D. Fuller wrote: > [...] > : This becomes ungodly ugly when you have 3 or 4 C's. Better to use an > : external script. And do you REALLY want a /24 netmask on all of them?? > > I made a script called /etc/rc.ifconfig, I suppose this should be > /usr/local/etc for technical correctness, but it works nicer than > the ifconfig_ed0_aliasX types in /etc/rc.conf, I make rc.local call > rc.ifconfig- This is what it looks like: Actually, you should call it from rc.network; things like Apache need to be started *AFTER* you ifconfig the aliases, or it won't bind() to them. And if you look, rc.network already has provisions for this: # Set up all the network interfaces, calling startup scripts if needed for ifn in ${network_interfaces}; do if [ -e /etc/start_if.${ifn} ]; then . /etc/start_if.${ifn} fi So just rename the script to /etc/start_if.ed0 and don't worry 'bout it :) -- Matthew Fuller (MF4839) | fullermd@over-yonder.net Unix Systems Administrator | fullermd@futuresouth.com Specializing in FreeBSD | http://www.over-yonder.net/ FutureSouth Communications | ISPHelp ISP Consulting "The only reason I'm burning my candle at both ends, is because I haven't figured out how to light the middle yet" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 11 13:56:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp2.vnet.net (smtp2.vnet.net [166.82.1.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBBF014D7E for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 13:56:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rivers@dignus.com) Received: from dignus.com (ponds.vnet.net [166.82.177.48]) by smtp2.vnet.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA29906 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 16:56:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from lakes.dignus.com (lakes.dignus.com [10.0.0.3]) by dignus.com (8.9.2/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA04515 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 16:56:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from rivers@localhost) by lakes.dignus.com (8.9.3/8.6.9) id QAA00731; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 16:56:02 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 16:56:02 -0500 (EST) From: Thomas David Rivers Message-Id: <199911112156.QAA00731@lakes.dignus.com> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, rivers@lakes.dignus.com Subject: 3.3 panics after running large programs... Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I was wondering if anyone else has experienced the following symptoms... (this is 3.3-RELEASE, but, presumably would be true on 3.3-STABLE...). This machine is a P200 with an AHA2940. 1) Run a program under Linux emulation that takes a while and uses a *lot* of memory (say, several times your physical RAM. (Could be that linux emulation has nothing to do with it - it's just a program that gets some serious memory use and I/O happening.) 2) After the program completes - a panic occurs, in one of the subsequent programs (e.g. usually in X, or the next program run - just some other process.) 3) The panic seems to occur in ahc_done (by my reading of the a kernel nm and the panic's IP address.) In this instance, the panic says the IP is c0131160 and ahc_done is c0131148 (somewhere toward the start of ahc_done?) Probably the first line or so - somewhere around: ccb = scb->ccb; LIST_REMOVE(&ccb->ccb_h, sim_links.le); The panic message prints, etc.. (it's one of those page faults in kernel mode that prints two panics - the first one rolls off of the screen.) Then, my machine is locked up hard - no dump is taken, so the subsequent reboot doesn't save any core. (I've believe I've got savecore set appropriately in /etc/rc.local: appropriately set in my /etc/rc.local # # Set the dump device so when we crash we'll save info # dumpdev="/dev/da0s1b" So - I have little more to go on. I'm hoping if I config a kernel with DDB I'll be able to determine just where this panics. I guess there are really two "prongs" to this: 1) Anyone noticed a panic similar to this? 2) Is there any reason I'm not getting a nice savecore? The machine is simply hanging solid... - Thanks - - Dave Rivers - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 11 14: 0:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shell.futuresouth.com (shell.futuresouth.com [198.78.58.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3E1214DFB for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 14:00:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fullermd@futuresouth.com) Received: (from fullermd@localhost) by shell.futuresouth.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA03895; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 16:00:12 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 16:00:12 -0600 From: "Matthew D. Fuller" To: Thomas David Rivers Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, rivers@lakes.dignus.com Subject: Re: 3.3 panics after running large programs... Message-ID: <19991111160011.B393@futuresouth.com> References: <199911112156.QAA00731@lakes.dignus.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3i In-Reply-To: <199911112156.QAA00731@lakes.dignus.com> X-OS: FreeBSD Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Nov 11, 1999 at 04:56:02PM -0500, a little birdie told me that Thomas David Rivers remarked > > Then, my machine is locked up hard - no dump is taken, so the > subsequent reboot doesn't save any core. (I've believe I've got savecore > set appropriately in /etc/rc.local: > appropriately set in my /etc/rc.local ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I presume you mean rc.conf. > I guess there are really two "prongs" to this: > > 1) Anyone noticed a panic similar to this? No, but... > 2) Is there any reason I'm not getting a nice savecore? > The machine is simply hanging solid... As a guess, if it's freaking out in the routines for the SCSI controller, it might have trouble dumping to a drive on it; maybe it locks trying to do it, or maybe it has enough (or too much ;) 'smarts' to not even try. -- Matthew Fuller (MF4839) | fullermd@over-yonder.net Unix Systems Administrator | fullermd@futuresouth.com Specializing in FreeBSD | http://www.over-yonder.net/ FutureSouth Communications | ISPHelp ISP Consulting "The only reason I'm burning my candle at both ends, is because I haven't figured out how to light the middle yet" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 11 14: 3:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.vnet.net (smtp1.vnet.net [166.82.1.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E75214DA2 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 14:03:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rivers@dignus.com) Received: from dignus.com (ponds.vnet.net [166.82.177.48]) by smtp1.vnet.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA29310; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 17:03:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from lakes.dignus.com (lakes.dignus.com [10.0.0.3]) by dignus.com (8.9.2/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA04534; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 17:03:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from rivers@localhost) by lakes.dignus.com (8.9.3/8.6.9) id RAA00845; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 17:03:14 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 17:03:14 -0500 (EST) From: Thomas David Rivers Message-Id: <199911112203.RAA00845@lakes.dignus.com> To: fullermd@futuresouth.com, rivers@dignus.com Subject: Re: 3.3 panics after running large programs... Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, rivers@lakes.dignus.com In-Reply-To: <19991111160011.B393@futuresouth.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > On Thu, Nov 11, 1999 at 04:56:02PM -0500, a little birdie told me > that Thomas David Rivers remarked > > > > Then, my machine is locked up hard - no dump is taken, so the > > subsequent reboot doesn't save any core. (I've believe I've got savecore > > set appropriately in /etc/rc.local: > > appropriately set in my /etc/rc.local > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > I presume you mean rc.conf. > > > > I guess there are really two "prongs" to this: > > > > 1) Anyone noticed a panic similar to this? > No, but... I didn't believe it would be too frequent - certainly people have run large programs on 3.3-RELEASE and aha2940s without problems... I do as well - but there seems to be this one that reliably causes the panic... > > > 2) Is there any reason I'm not getting a nice savecore? > > The machine is simply hanging solid... > > As a guess, if it's freaking out in the routines for the SCSI controller, > it might have trouble dumping to a drive on it; maybe it locks trying to > do it, or maybe it has enough (or too much ;) 'smarts' to not even try. > > > Ah - good point. I only enabled dumpdev yesterday - it was hanging like this before (but that doesn't mean it wasn't trying to dump, and failing...) I'm about to try using DDB to see if I can at least keep the keyboard up... - Dave R. - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 11 14: 4:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp2.vnet.net (smtp2.vnet.net [166.82.1.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DED1614E28 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 14:04:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rivers@dignus.com) Received: from dignus.com (ponds.vnet.net [166.82.177.48]) by smtp2.vnet.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA01892; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 17:04:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from lakes.dignus.com (lakes.dignus.com [10.0.0.3]) by dignus.com (8.9.2/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA04543; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 17:04:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from rivers@localhost) by lakes.dignus.com (8.9.3/8.6.9) id RAA00872; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 17:04:51 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 17:04:51 -0500 (EST) From: Thomas David Rivers Message-Id: <199911112204.RAA00872@lakes.dignus.com> To: fullermd@futuresouth.com, rivers@lakes.dignus.com, rivers@dignus.com Subject: Re: 3.3 panics after running large programs... Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, rivers@lakes.dignus.com In-Reply-To: <199911112203.RAA00845@lakes.dignus.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > I'm about to try using DDB to see if I can at least keep the keyboard > up... > > - Dave R. - > > Well - I'm really at a loss now.. I already had DDB compiled into that kernel... and, a panic doesn't seem to be dropping into it... I've got options DDB in the kernel config file... - Dave R. - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 11 14:14:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from server.baldwin.cx (jobaldwi.campus.vt.edu [198.82.67.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D19414E28 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 14:14:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jobaldwi@vt.edu) Received: from john.baldwin.cx (john [10.0.0.2]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA34417; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 17:13:49 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jobaldwi@vt.edu) Message-Id: <199911112213.RAA34417@server.baldwin.cx> X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3.1 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <14378.28246.28493.440833@guru.phone.net> Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 17:13:49 -0500 (EST) From: John Baldwin To: Mike Meyer Subject: Re: ldconfig finding libraries, but ld is not. Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 11-Nov-99 Mike Meyer wrote: > I still curse at regular intervals at the ports/packages collection > installing things in /usr/local. That means I need another place for > things that I maintain, instead of came with FreeBSD. Putting > everything in /usr is one such solution. /opt is another (but having > everything have it's own hierarchy pretty much sucks). Try maintaining a lab of 40-80 identical machines. Then imagine distributing /usr/local and /usr/X11R6 via NFS. Then you only have to install the package on one machine to install it everywhere. That doesn't work when installed under /usr. Are you enlightened yet? > -- http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jobaldwi/ PGP Key: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jobaldwi/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 11 14:18:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.vnet.net (smtp1.vnet.net [166.82.1.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 848E314E3D for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 14:18:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rivers@dignus.com) Received: from dignus.com (ponds.vnet.net [166.82.177.48]) by smtp1.vnet.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA02684 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 17:18:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from lakes.dignus.com (lakes.dignus.com [10.0.0.3]) by dignus.com (8.9.2/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA04569 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 17:18:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from rivers@localhost) by lakes.dignus.com (8.9.3/8.6.9) id RAA00383 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 17:18:52 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 17:18:52 -0500 (EST) From: Thomas David Rivers Message-Id: <199911112218.RAA00383@lakes.dignus.com> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: -- panics 3.3-RELEASE. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Well, I think I may know why DDB isn't working well for my other problem. When I go to the console and press: -- just to see if DDB is available - *poof* - instant double panic and reboot - with no core saved. Unfortunately - the panic rolls off the screen faster than I can read it (although there does seem to be two sets of panic info.) Unlike my other panic, this doesn't hang - it reboots. I'll submit a PR for this; but, in the meantime, I'm pretty sure other people have DDB in their 3.3-RELEASE systems... don't they? - Dave R. - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 11 14:36:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from guru.phone.net (guru.phone.net [216.240.39.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 28EA314EBC for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 14:36:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mwm@phone.net) Received: (qmail 2198 invoked by uid 100); 11 Nov 1999 22:36:14 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14379.17630.340446.163663@guru.phone.net> Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 14:36:14 -0800 (PST) To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ldconfig finding libraries, but ld is not. In-Reply-To: <199911112213.RAA34417@server.baldwin.cx> References: <14378.28246.28493.440833@guru.phone.net> <199911112213.RAA34417@server.baldwin.cx> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 3) "Acadia" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG John Baldwin writes: ;->On 11-Nov-99 Mike Meyer wrote: ;->> I still curse at regular intervals at the ports/packages collection ;->> installing things in /usr/local. That means I need another place for ;->> things that I maintain, instead of came with FreeBSD. Putting ;->> everything in /usr is one such solution. /opt is another (but having ;->> everything have it's own hierarchy pretty much sucks). ;->Try maintaining a lab of 40-80 identical machines. Then imagine ;->distributing /usr/local and /usr/X11R6 via NFS. Then you only have to ;->install the package on one machine to install it everywhere. That ;->doesn't work when installed under /usr. Are you enlightened yet? Yes, but not about what you hoped. Back when I did that kind of thing, I did a better job than that. Let's see - off the top of my head, I've network mounted /usr (the Linux solution to this problem), /opt (the Solaris solution), and used rdist, rsync and perforce to do the distribution. The bottom line is that taking the name people have standardized on for installing *local* packages and installing system-provided packages there is a bad thing(TM). None of the solutions I used suffered from that flaw. ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 14:49:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from plambert@pinky.plambert.net) Received: (from plambert@localhost) by pinky.plambert.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA95524 for stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 14:49:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from plambert) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 14:49:38 -0800 From: "Paul M . Lambert" To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ldconfig finding libraries, but ld is not. Message-ID: <19991111144938.B69565@pinky.plambert.net> References: <14378.28246.28493.440833@guru.phone.net> <199911112213.RAA34417@server.baldwin.cx> <14379.17630.340446.163663@guru.phone.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <14379.17630.340446.163663@guru.phone.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 11 Nov 1999, Mike Meyer wrote: > > Yes, but not about what you hoped. Back when I did that kind of thing, > I did a better job than that. Let's see - off the top of my head, > I've network mounted /usr (the Linux solution to this problem), /opt > (the Solaris solution), and used rdist, rsync and perforce to do the > distribution. > > The bottom line is that taking the name people have standardized on > for installing *local* packages and installing system-provided > packages there is a bad thing(TM). None of the solutions I used > suffered from that flaw. > > Ports are not provided by the OS. Neither are packages. If there's a problem with a port, it's not the responsibility of the people with commit access to the OS source. It's a _port_. It belongs in /usr/local. Items distributed with the OS and maintained by the maintainers of the OS belong in /usr; items specific to each machine (which may not be on the next FreeBSD machine you encounter) belong in /usr/local. Code I've written myself, I put in /usr/local. It seems reasonable that /usr/local/lib doesn't get special treatment, since it doesn't _need_ to have special treatment for everyone. Most Linux distributions want to work perfectly out-of-the-box for everyone, leaving them somewhat less-than-optimal for many situations. In my experience, FreeBSD take the opposite approach: the OS only includes those things necessary to boot on a reasonable selection of hardware, and do basic networking and so forth. All the tools necessary to _add_ to the system are available, but there's very little extra "fluff" in the base distribution. Because this "added" software isn't actually part of the OS, the OS doesn't automatically assume that /usr/local/lib is important. Seems reasonable to me. I'm aware that you disagree, and I don't begrudge you that right. But I would like you to be made aware that there are many of us out here who feel that the FreeBSD way meets our needs better than stuffing absolutely everything that anyone can figure out how to put into an RPM into one directory tree. The method used by many Linux distributions meets other needs. And anyone with any experience with UN*X whatsoever can make both work in either capacity. I see no need to change anything. --plambert -- I hate bombs, terrorism, fear, plans, future and past injustices, manifestos, popular sentiment, ignition, timetables, meetings, and poorly adjusted weasels. A warm hello to my friends and fans in domestic surveillance! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 11 14:58:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from misha.cisco.com (misha.cisco.com [171.69.206.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DA7514EAD for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 14:58:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mi@misha.cisco.com) Received: (from mi@localhost) by misha.cisco.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id RAA03811; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 17:57:54 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mi) Message-Id: <199911112257.RAA03811@misha.cisco.com> Subject: Re: ldconfig finding libraries, but ld is not. In-Reply-To: <14379.17630.340446.163663@guru.phone.net> from Mike Meyer at "Nov 11, 1999 02:36:14 pm" To: Mike Meyer Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 17:57:54 -0500 (EST) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: mi@aldan.algebra.com From: Mikhail Teterin X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL60 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike Meyer once wrote: > The bottom line is that taking the name people have standardized on > for installing *local* packages [/usr/local -mi] and installing > system-provided packages there is a bad thing(TM). The FreeBSD's point of view is, that the "system-provided packages", are the ones that are already under the /usr itself. That includes monsters like bind, amd, sendmail, perl, cc, uucp, etc. (Whether they should all be always included is a different story.) What you install using the pkg_add or build/install through the ports, ARE the *local* packages you refer to. The ports are just there to aid you. However, I believe the problem of the person starting this thread, was that the /usr/local/lib is in the cc/ld's default search path. The person demanded it be put there or he switched to Linux. Well, since /usr/local is not part of the OS, putting /usr/local/lib onto cc/ld's list is wrong, IMHO. Next, they'll want /usr/local/include on the cpp's list! And we can't allow that :-) -mi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 11 15: 4:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.vnet.net (smtp1.vnet.net [166.82.1.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F079F14E4A for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 15:04:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rivers@dignus.com) Received: from dignus.com (ponds.vnet.net [166.82.177.48]) by smtp1.vnet.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA11578 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 18:04:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from lakes.dignus.com (lakes.dignus.com [10.0.0.3]) by dignus.com (8.9.2/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA04645 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 18:04:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from rivers@localhost) by lakes.dignus.com (8.9.3/8.6.9) id SAA00681 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 18:04:49 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 18:04:49 -0500 (EST) From: Thomas David Rivers Message-Id: <199911112304.SAA00681@lakes.dignus.com> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: More on 3.3-RELEASE panics (doesn't happen with 3.1-RELEASE.) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG If you've been reading along... I've got a 3.3-RELEASE box which will reliably panic after running a particular Linux executable. On a lark, I decided to simply boot a 3.1-RELEASE kernel there to see what happened. First, I had to replace /modules/linux.ko with the 3.1-RELEASE version to get the linux executable to run. After that - things worked great. I've been able to run the reliable reproduction without the slightest hint of a panic... on *exactly* the same hardware, etc... (which kinda rules out those possibilities.) So - I'm inclined to believe there is a 3.3-RELEASE problem that needs looking into... but, since I can't get DDB working, I don't have a good idea of where to start.... Thoughts? - Dave Rivers - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 11 15:14:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from guru.phone.net (guru.phone.net [216.240.39.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A6A6714C9E for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 15:14:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mwm@phone.net) Received: (qmail 3164 invoked by uid 100); 11 Nov 1999 23:14:05 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14379.19900.963634.387520@guru.phone.net> Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 15:14:04 -0800 (PST) To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ldconfig finding libraries, but ld is not. In-Reply-To: <19991111144938.B69565@pinky.plambert.net> References: <14378.28246.28493.440833@guru.phone.net> <199911112213.RAA34417@server.baldwin.cx> <14379.17630.340446.163663@guru.phone.net> <19991111144938.B69565@pinky.plambert.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 3) "Acadia" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Paul M . Lambert writes: ;->> The bottom line is that taking the name people have standardized on ;->> for installing *local* packages and installing system-provided ;->> packages there is a bad thing(TM). None of the solutions I used ;->> suffered from that flaw. ;->Ports are not provided by the OS. Neither are packages. You're arguing semantics. Ports (and packages) come on the CD-ROM that comes with my subscription to FreeBSD. I see complaints about ports failing to build or function properly regularly on a mail list @freebsd.org, and nobody complains that it's inappropriate. I won't argue that they are part of the OS - if you won't argue that they aren't part of the FreeBSD distribution (in fact, a major part as far as I'm concerned.) ;->If there's a problem with a port, it's not the responsibility of ;->the people with commit access to the OS source. It's a _port_. It's the responsibility of the people who have commit access to the *ports* tree. That's why problem reports about ports go to freebsd-ports! ;->It belongs in /usr/local. I don't agree. Things being maintainted and supported locally belong in /usr/local. Ports and packages come on the distribution, and you go back to the same channels for support as you do for core parts of that distribution. ;->Items distributed with the OS and maintained by the maintainers of ;->the OS belong in /usr; items specific to each machine (which may ;->not be on the next FreeBSD machine you encounter) belong in ;->/usr/local. Code I've written myself, I put in /usr/local. I'm sorry, but if you believe that optional parts of the distribution belong in /usr/local, the sendmail clearly belongs there: bash-2.03$ grep -i sendmail /etc/make.conf # To avoid building sendmail NO_SENDMAIL= true bash-2.03$ ;->I'm aware that you disagree, and I don't begrudge you that right. ;->But I would like you to be made aware that there are many of us ;->out here who feel that the FreeBSD way meets our needs better than ;->stuffing absolutely everything that anyone can figure out how to ;->put into an RPM into one directory tree. I understand that. My problem isn't that everything isn't shoved into /usr. My problem is that the standard name space for locally-supported packages has been coopted by part of the FreeBSD distribution. I'd be equally happy if it were /opt, /packages, /usr/packages, or something similar (/lets/make/mike/type/a/lot would make me unhappy, mind you :-). I'm not pushing for that to change - I realize how much work it would be - but I'm going to exercise the option to complain about it if an appropriate moment comes up and I've been bitten by it recently. ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 15:56:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rivers@dignus.com) Received: from dignus.com (ponds.vnet.net [166.82.177.48]) by smtp2.vnet.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA22542 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 18:56:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from lakes.dignus.com (lakes.dignus.com [10.0.0.3]) by dignus.com (8.9.2/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA04706 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 18:56:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from rivers@localhost) by lakes.dignus.com (8.9.3/8.6.9) id SAA00665 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 18:56:47 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 18:56:47 -0500 (EST) From: Thomas David Rivers Message-Id: <199911112356.SAA00665@lakes.dignus.com> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Solution to my 3.3-RELEASE panics! Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Well, When I started to edit kernel sources to try and track down my panics... a few compiles later & *poof* everything was working. I'll have to attribute this to the "nut behind the wheel." Apparently, I must have done a config with some option (likely DDB) on and not done a clean build... (i.e. didn't do a `make clean; make') After a clean build - I can't get the panic any more, and -- drops me into DDB. /\ / \ / \ _/______\_ - Dave (pointy hat) Rivers - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 11 16:12:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from blaubaer.kn-bremen.de (blaubaer.kn-bremen.de [195.37.179.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49BDA14FB5 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 16:12:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nox@saturn.kn-bremen.de) Received: from saturn.kn-bremen.de (uucp@localhost) by blaubaer.kn-bremen.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with UUCP id BAA31807; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 01:10:29 +0100 Received: (from nox@localhost) by saturn.kn-bremen.de (8.9.3/8.8.5) id WAA01008; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 22:47:30 +0100 (MET) From: Juergen Lock Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 22:47:30 +0100 To: Mike Smith Cc: zzhang@cs.binghamton.edu, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: easyboot far into disk Message-ID: <19991111224730.A739@saturn.kn-bremen.de> References: <19991107035454.B59629@saturn.kn-bremen.de> <199911071957.LAA13619@dingo.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.7i In-Reply-To: <199911071957.LAA13619@dingo.cdrom.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Nov 07, 1999 at 11:57:26AM -0800, Mike Smith wrote: > > > Rootdev ought to work, actually. But if you get it wrong, the loader > > > will fall back to using currdev. > > > > Hmm then thats strange. I first tried rootdev, which didn't work, and > > then later currdev, which did work, and i believe i used the same value > > both times! Or was rootdev fixed only recently, the boot floppies i > > had lying around and tested this on weren't the latest... > > I thought rootdev was fixed a long time back. If it's not, please tell > me and I'll fix it again. 8) Alright I finally got around testing this with a later kern.flp (3.3-R actually), and it still didn't work. I also noticed rootdev isn't listed when i do a `show', but i guess thats not the problem as other variables didn't show up either... Oh and loader.help isn't on the floppy although there would have been enough free space for it. And loading the kernel from the floppy seemed a bit slow, although i didn't time it... Regards, -- Juergen Lock (remove dot foo from address to reply) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 11 16:25:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bogslab.ucdavis.edu (bogslab.ucdavis.edu [169.237.68.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC9A614C0E for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 16:25:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from greg@bogslab.ucdavis.edu) Received: from deal1.bogs.org (deal1.bogs.org [198.137.203.51]) by bogslab.ucdavis.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA20014 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 16:25:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from deal1.bogs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by deal1.bogs.org (8.8.8/8.6.12) with ESMTP id QAA00809 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 16:25:40 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199911120025.QAA00809@deal1.bogs.org> To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-To: Mike Meyer X-Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ldconfig finding libraries, but ld is not. In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 11 Nov 1999 15:14:04 PST." <14379.19900.963634.387520@guru.phone.net> Reply-To: gkshenaut@ucdavis.edu Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 16:25:40 -0800 From: Greg Shenaut Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <14379.19900.963634.387520@guru.phone.net>, Mike Meyer cleopede: >Ports (and packages) come on the CD-ROM that >comes with my subscription to FreeBSD. I see complaints about ports >failing to build or function properly regularly on a mail list >@freebsd.org, and nobody complains that it's inappropriate. I won't >argue that they are part of the OS - if you won't argue that they >aren't part of the FreeBSD distribution (in fact, a major part as far >as I'm concerned.) I agree with all this, and I was shocked when I moved from BSD/OS to FreeBSD that all the distributed software was placed into /usr/local. But the reality is that the FreeBSD folks consider the stuff handled as "distributions" to be FreeBSD, and all the other stuff (absolutely required, IMHO, in order to actually do anything on the computer) to be optional local stuff, so it goes into /usr/local. After pouting for several months (which gave me a paintful cramp in the jaw), I spent a couple of days moving what I considered "local" (mostly stuff I've written or glommed over the years) into a separate file hierarchy with a root name based on the name of our lab, and now I don't have to worry about it (and my jaw feels much better too). -Greg Shenaut To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 11 16:33:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from guru.phone.net (guru.phone.net [216.240.39.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1BCA414F1C for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 16:33:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mwm@phone.net) Received: (qmail 5090 invoked by uid 100); 12 Nov 1999 00:33:51 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14379.24687.831912.817278@guru.phone.net> Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 16:33:51 -0800 (PST) To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ldconfig finding libraries, but ld is not. In-Reply-To: <199911120025.QAA00809@deal1.bogs.org> References: <14379.19900.963634.387520@guru.phone.net> <199911120025.QAA00809@deal1.bogs.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 3) "Acadia" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greg Shenaut writes: ;->After pouting for several months (which gave me a paintful cramp ;->in the jaw), I spent a couple of days moving what I considered ;->"local" (mostly stuff I've written or glommed over the years) into ;->a separate file hierarchy with a root name based on the name of ;->our lab, and now I don't have to worry about it (and my jaw feels ;->much better too). Yeah, I did that. /usr/local is on /usr, and /home has stuff that's local on it. It's just a minor annoyance (as opposed to, say, Windows UI behavior, which is a major annoyance). If some other problem with part of the distribution being in /usr/local shows up shortly after I've had to deal with it, I complain. ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 16:39:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA14529; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 17:39:06 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <199911120039.RAA14529@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: ldconfig finding libraries, but ld is not. In-Reply-To: <199911120025.QAA00809@deal1.bogs.org> from Greg Shenaut at "Nov 11, 99 04:25:40 pm" To: gkshenaut@ucdavis.edu Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 17:39:06 -0700 (MST) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As I recall, Greg Shenaut wrote: > After pouting for several months (which gave me a painful cramp > in the jaw), I spent a couple of days moving what I considered > "local" (mostly stuff I've written or glommed over the years) into > a separate file hierarchy with a root name based on the name of > our lab, and now I don't have to worry about it (and my jaw feels > much better too). We use /pdl (for Public Domain and Local) for stuff that doesn't come through FreeBSD.org. It has the expected hierarchy. /pdl /pdl/bin /pdl/lib /pdl/etc /pdl/src /pdl/src/public /pdl/src/local In /pdl/src/local go stuff we've written, or stuff that is encumbered by license restrictions and the like. /pdl/src/public contains freely reusable stuff. -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 11 17:23:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from icarus.idirect.com (icarus.idirect.com [207.136.80.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5906C14C0E; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 17:23:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from alleve@idirect.com) Received: from orion.idirect.com (orion.idirect.com [207.136.80.167]) by icarus.idirect.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA07233; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 20:23:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from user (ts7-67t-23.idirect.com [216.154.34.214]) by orion.idirect.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA42347; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 20:23:36 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <030b01bf2cac$f15d8be0$7393fea9@user> From: "Allix Primus" To: , Subject: Mounting an ATAPI-CDROM ? Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 20:26:22 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0306_01BF2C83.04B3E6A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0306_01BF2C83.04B3E6A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable At boot time it shows wdc0 as the cdrom , but it won't mount . I checked = the /dev/ and the wdc0 isn't there either. Is there something in the = kernel I should add ? ------=_NextPart_000_0306_01BF2C83.04B3E6A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
At boot time it shows wdc0 as the cdrom , but it = won't mount .=20 I checked the /dev/ and the wdc0 isn't there either. Is there something = in the=20 kernel I should add ?
------=_NextPart_000_0306_01BF2C83.04B3E6A0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 11 17:34:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from guru.phone.net (guru.phone.net [216.240.39.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id ECD2414BE0 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 17:34:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mwm@phone.net) Received: (qmail 6505 invoked by uid 100); 12 Nov 1999 01:34:24 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14379.28319.927705.778764@guru.phone.net> Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 17:34:23 -0800 (PST) To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ldconfig finding libraries, but ld is not. In-Reply-To: <19991111144938.B69565@pinky.plambert.net> References: <14378.28246.28493.440833@guru.phone.net> <199911112213.RAA34417@server.baldwin.cx> <14379.17630.340446.163663@guru.phone.net> <19991111144938.B69565@pinky.plambert.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 3) "Acadia" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Paul M . Lambert writes: ;->It seems reasonable that /usr/local/lib doesn't get special treatment, ;->since it doesn't _need_ to have special treatment for everyone. Except, of course, that /usr/local/lib *does* get special treatment! It's listed in ldconfig_paths (and the aout subdir ldconfig_paths_aout), along with /usr/X11R6/lib & /usr/lib/compat. None of those are part of the OS, though all are part of the distribution. This seems a tad inconsistent. We make sure that the person installing software doesn't have to do anything extra to make it work at the install time - but someone trying to compile against them is left out in the code because "they aren't part of the OS". ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 17:38:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA25753 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 02:38:10 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from olli) Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 02:38:10 +0100 (CET) From: Oliver Fromme Message-Id: <199911120138.CAA25753@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Mounting an ATAPI-CDROM ? Organization: Administration Heim 3 Reply-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 RZTUC(3) PL2] Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Allix Primus wrote in list.freebsd-stable: > At boot time it shows wdc0 as the cdrom , but it won't mount . I checked = > the /dev/ and the wdc0 isn't there either. Is there something in the = > kernel I should add ? wdc0 ist the IDE controller, not the CD-ROM drive. Look for acd0 (ATAPI CD-ROM drive) in your boot messages. Type this command: dmesg | grep acd If it's not there, it's probably missing in your kernel's config file (or there's a hardware problem), so simply add it and make a new kernel If it's there, then the following should mount a CD: mount -t cd9660 /dev/acd0c /mnt (Note the "c" character has been appended to the device name, which is necessary to specify the "partition". There are no partitions on a CD, so "c" is used to specify "just the whole thing". I think you may use "a" as well.) Regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, Leibnizstr. 18/61, 38678 Clausthal, Germany (Info: finger userinfo:olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) "In jedem Stück Kohle wartet ein Diamant auf seine Geburt" (Terry Pratchett) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 11 18:52: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tupac.portal.v.pl (LEPAK.with.GALS.and.FuCk.Em.At.portal.v.pl [212.160.101.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8C5C14FE3 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 18:51:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mleczo@tupac.portal.v.pl) Received: from localhost (mleczo@localhost) by tupac.portal.v.pl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA01733; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 04:53:01 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mleczo@tupac.portal.v.pl) Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 04:53:00 +0100 (CET) From: mleczo To: Mike Meyer Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ldconfig finding libraries, but ld is not. In-Reply-To: <14379.24687.831912.817278@guru.phone.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Helo Im new to all of this But got one question I cant compile eggdrop on my FreeBSD 2.2.8 When it comes to linking i got an error ld: -ltcl no match Wheres the problem PLease help me solve this bye To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 11 18:54:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kiwi.mail.easynet.net (kiwi.mail.easynet.net [195.40.1.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3F9615266 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 18:54:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ak@freenet.co.uk) Received: from freenet.co.uk (alister.w.easynet.co.uk [212.212.251.86]) by kiwi.mail.easynet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC20ADB2C9; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 02:54:14 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <382B8165.147D279@freenet.co.uk> Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 02:54:29 +0000 From: Alex X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Baldwin Cc: Mike Meyer , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ldconfig finding libraries, but ld is not. References: <199911112213.RAA34417@server.baldwin.cx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG John Baldwin wrote: > > On 11-Nov-99 Mike Meyer wrote: > > I still curse at regular intervals at the ports/packages collection > > installing things in /usr/local. That means I need another place for > > things that I maintain, instead of came with FreeBSD. Putting > > everything in /usr is one such solution. /opt is another (but having > > everything have it's own hierarchy pretty much sucks). > > Try maintaining a lab of 40-80 identical machines. Then imagine > distributing /usr/local and /usr/X11R6 via NFS. Then you only have to > install the package on one machine to install it everywhere. That > doesn't work when installed under /usr. Are you enlightened yet? Yes - it's cool to have all the packages in one place, such as /usr/local (BSDI has what, /usr/contrib?) What is NOT cool is /usr/local/etc, which I believe should be different for each machine. Why not /etc/local/..., say? BTW, OpenBSD doesn't have a /usr/local/etc (everything goes in /etc). Alex To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 11 19:22:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 855BE14C28 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 19:22:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA00545; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 19:13:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199911120313.TAA00545@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Andy Permana Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: is there any support for ca-810 motherboard In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 12 Nov 1999 00:53:03 +0700." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 19:13:13 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The 810 chipset is, as far as I'm aware, still buggy. The symptoms you're seeing tend to indicate that you are seeing serious memory integrity failures, which would be consistent with that. > hi guys, > is there any support for intel's new chipset 810 ? On intel motherboard > (ca-810) i can't get the kernel to be compiled on that system. > i always get kernel panic when compiling xfree and other ports :( > i already upgraded the bios' motherboard and not using udma-66 cable > provided by the motherboard. > > When compiling kernel, the error messages show up randomly like this > > In file included from ../../sys/kernel.h:279, > from ../../netinet/tcp_usrreq.c:41: > ../../sys/module.h:53: parse error at null character > ../../sys/module.h:62: parse error before `}' > ....... > *** Error code 1 > > and whet i execute make again the error messages shows differently > > ../../netinet/tcp_usrreq.c:340: warning: `ostate' might be used > uninitialized in this function > *** Error code 1 > > and i have to type make again again again and again to make the kernel > compiled (is this true ?) > > Is this because freebsd-stable doesn't support intel's new chipset ca810 > or something else? > > Any viable help/solutions will be appreciated. > thankyou > > -andy > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > -- \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 11 20:17:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.itga.com.au (ns.itga.com.au [192.83.119.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E822415425 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 20:17:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: from lightning.itga.com.au (lightning.itga.com.au [192.168.71.20]) by ns.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA98567; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 15:16:54 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: from lightning.itga.com.au (lightning.itga.com.au [192.168.71.20]) by lightning.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA29570; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 15:16:54 +1100 (EST) Message-Id: <199911120416.PAA29570@lightning.itga.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 From: Gregory Bond To: Mike Meyer Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ldconfig finding libraries, but ld is not. In-reply-to: Your message of Thu, 11 Nov 1999 16:33:51 -0800. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 15:16:53 +1100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Yeah, I did that. /usr/local is on /usr, and /home has stuff that's > local on it. It's just a minor annoyance (as opposed to, say, Windows > UI behavior, which is a major annoyance). This is an old, old, _OLD_ problem. I personally have been dealing with it since the days of mod.sources. I even remember the wrenching sensation that came from discovering that there were these very substantial, useful programs out there and people _just gave them away_. The mind boggled. For many years we have (on our Sun systems) had a /usr/local/{bin,lib,sbin,etc} hierarchy for stuff from the net (etc) that isn't part of the OS, and /usr/ local//{bin,lib,etc} for locally-developed stuff. It's a 3-way distinction that has proved very useful. It does still annoy me that gcc on Suns will look in /usr/local/include but the linker won't look in /usr/local/lib... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 11 20:26:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.itga.com.au (ns.itga.com.au [192.83.119.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E06C615425 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 20:26:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: from lightning.itga.com.au (lightning.itga.com.au [192.168.71.20]) by ns.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA98612 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 15:26:09 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: from lightning.itga.com.au (lightning.itga.com.au [192.168.71.20]) by lightning.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA29936; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 15:26:08 +1100 (EST) Message-Id: <199911120426.PAA29936@lightning.itga.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 From: Gregory Bond To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Mounting an ATAPI-CDROM ? In-reply-to: Your message of Fri, 12 Nov 1999 02:38:10 +0100. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 15:26:08 +1100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > wdc0 ist the IDE controller, not the CD-ROM drive. > Look for acd0 (ATAPI CD-ROM drive) in your boot messages. > Type this command: dmesg | grep acd Depending on the vintage of his system, the ATAPI CD driver and correspon= ding = /dev/ entry have been called wcd0 and acd0 at various times, even in the = life = of 3.x. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 11 21:41:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from guru.phone.net (guru.phone.net [216.240.39.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id ACEE61541B for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 21:41:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mwm@phone.net) Received: (qmail 11930 invoked by uid 100); 12 Nov 1999 05:41:27 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14379.43143.557210.577197@guru.phone.net> Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 21:41:27 -0800 (PST) To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ldconfig finding libraries, but ld is not. In-Reply-To: <199911120416.PAA29570@lightning.itga.com.au> References: <199911120416.PAA29570@lightning.itga.com.au> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 3) "Acadia" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Gregory Bond writes: ;->> Yeah, I did that. /usr/local is on /usr, and /home has stuff that's ;->> local on it. It's just a minor annoyance (as opposed to, say, Windows ;->> UI behavior, which is a major annoyance). ;->This is an old, old, _OLD_ problem. I personally have been dealing with it ;->since the days of mod.sources. I even remember the wrenching sensation that ;->came from discovering that there were these very substantial, useful programs ;->out there and people _just gave them away_. The mind boggled. I'm old enough to have gone the other way - the first time I ran into programs that people treated like *property*, I boggled. I was used to software being either 1) something the hardware manufacturer gave you as part of the machine lease/purchase so it would be useful, or 2) something that was free. ;->For many years we have (on our Sun systems) had a /usr/local/{bin,lib,sbin,etc} ;->hierarchy for stuff from the net (etc) that isn't part of the OS, and /usr/ ;->local//{bin,lib,etc} for locally-developed stuff. It's a 3-way ;->distinction that has proved very useful. I never saw that one - stuff in /usr/local we put on after the base OS install, and generally had people on-site to look at and possible fix, whether we it was written locally or not. We did migrate things through /usr/local/new and /usr/local/old if it looked like there were incompatabilities. ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 23:38:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from iwasaki@jp.FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (isdnb44.imasy.or.jp [202.227.24.172]) by tasogare.imasy.or.jp (8.9.3+3.2W/3.7W-tasogare/smtpfeed 1.01) with ESMTP id QAA22430; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 16:37:40 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from iwasaki@jp.FreeBSD.org) Message-Id: <199911120737.QAA22430@tasogare.imasy.or.jp> To: rivers@dignus.com Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: -- panics 3.3-RELEASE. In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 11 Nov 1999 17:18:52 -0500 (EST)" <199911112218.RAA00383@lakes.dignus.com> References: <199911112218.RAA00383@lakes.dignus.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.93 on Emacs 19.34 / Mule 2.3 (SUETSUMUHANA) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 16:37:36 +0900 From: Mitsuru IWASAKI X-Dispatcher: imput version 980905(IM100) Lines: 15 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, rivers> When I go to the console and press: rivers> rivers> -- rivers> rivers> just to see if DDB is available - *poof* - instant rivers> double panic and reboot - with no core saved. I think that this already fixed in -STABLE and there is detail info at http://www.FreeBSD.org/releases/3.3R/errata.html Thanks To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Nov 12 0:21:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles544.castles.com [208.214.165.108]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9CBA14C0B for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 00:21:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA00397 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 00:12:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199911120812.AAA00397@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Mylex and AMI drivers, README errata Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 00:12:18 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As many people have noticed, I left a typo in the README files for both the AMI and Mylex driver kits; the following corrections are in order: "kernel. Copy the files amr.c, amrvar.c amrreg.c and amrio.h into" becomes "kernel. Copy the files amr.c, amrvar.h amrreg.h and amrio.h into" and "Copy the files mlx.c, mlxvar.c, mlxreg.c and mlxio.h into /sys/pci," becomes "Copy the files mlx.c, mlxvar.h, mlxreg.h and mlxio.h into /sys/pci," My apologies for any confusion that this may have caused. For those of you still waiting to see how these drivers pan out, I have received positive feedback from a number of users already. If you have the opportunity to try these drivers out, I encourage you to do so and let me know how you go. Again, for AMI MegaRAID, HP NetRAID and some Dell PERC controllers: http://www.freebsd.org/~msmith/RAID/ami/amr-stable-991109.tar.gz For Mylex DAC960 controllers (also shipped with Compaq workstation PCs, *not* servers): http://www.freebsd.org/~msmith/RAID/mylex/mlx-stable-991109.tar.gz -- \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Nov 12 8:24: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk [130.159.196.126]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 991DB14D4C; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 08:23:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from roger@cs.strath.ac.uk) Received: from muir-10 (roger@muir-10.cs.strath.ac.uk [130.159.148.10]) by fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA22696 Fri, 12 Nov 1999 16:23:37 GMT Message-ID: <382C3F08.15FB@cs.strath.ac.uk> Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 16:23:36 +0000 From: Roger Hardiman Organization: University of Strathclyde X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (X11; I; OSF1 V4.0 alpha) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: wpaul@freebsd.org Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: 3.3-stable kernel panics Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Bill, CC to -stable I have a PC with an onboard realtek 8139 network card. It all worked great with 3.3-RELEASE but today I CVSuped and made world, and now the machine hangs and panics frequently. I can hang the machine just by ftping files from another site. I can panic the machine by using the ttcp network bandwidth tool in one screen, and running 'netstat 1' in another screen. When the panic happens, the kernel trace is small_i586_bcopy ip_input ipintr swi_net_next I took another machine running 3.3-stable (CVSup about a week ago). I removed its 10 Meg 3COM network card and added a RealTek 8139 card. It then had the same behavious - hanging whenever I started streaming any data over the network. I replaced the network card with a Linksys v2 card (using the MX driver) and the machine works correctly. So, I assumed the recent RealTek driver commit to -stable was at fault. However, I reverted if_rl.c and if_rlreg.h back to the old 3.3-Release versions and the panics still happen. So I assume the problem is elsewhere in the kernel, perhaps in the general IP code (netinet) or in the memory management (as it was a i586_bcopy which failed) Any ideas? Roger -- Roger Hardiman | Telepresence Research Group roger@cs.strath.ac.uk | DMEM, University of Strathclyde tel: 0141 548 2897 | Glasgow, Scotland, G1 1XJ, UK fax: 0141 552 0557 | http://www.telepresence.strath.ac.uk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Nov 12 8:27:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from amanda.swlct.sthames.nhs.uk (hide14.nhs.uk [194.6.81.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A391214F82 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 08:27:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from greg@swlct.sthames.nhs.uk) Received: from greg.swlct.sthames.nhs.uk (qmh-00553.qmpgmc.ac.uk [10.1.20.82]) by amanda.swlct.sthames.nhs.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA41743 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 16:17:18 GMT Message-ID: <00cb01bf2d2b$a7261e00$5214010a@swlct.sthames.nhs.uk> From: "Greg Quinlan" To: References: <199911120426.PAA29936@lightning.itga.com.au> Subject: CPIO message. Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 16:33:29 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG cpio: Read error at byte 0 in file ./proc/3250/map, padding with zeros cpio: File ./proc/3250/etype shrunk by 64 bytes, padding with zeros cpio: Read error at byte 0 in file ./proc/3249/map, padding with zeros While doing a cpio backup the above message appears. I know it is the process file system, and that my backup is NOT failing, but I just can not get rid of the message. I have tried: cd / find . \! -name "./proc/*" -depth -print | cpio -oBO /dev/tape -H NEWC BUT that still tries to backup the /proc directory.... what next? Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Nov 12 9:11: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from server.baldwin.cx (jobaldwi.campus.vt.edu [198.82.67.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B761814DED for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 09:10:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jobaldwi@vt.edu) Received: from john.baldwin.cx (john [10.0.0.2]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA06277; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 12:10:02 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jobaldwi@vt.edu) Message-Id: <199911121710.MAA06277@server.baldwin.cx> X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3.1 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <14379.17630.340446.163663@guru.phone.net> Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 12:10:02 -0500 (EST) From: John Baldwin To: Mike Meyer Subject: Re: ldconfig finding libraries, but ld is not. Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 11-Nov-99 Mike Meyer wrote: > John Baldwin writes: > ;->On 11-Nov-99 Mike Meyer wrote: > ;->> I still curse at regular intervals at the ports/packages > collection > ;->> installing things in /usr/local. That means I need another place > for > ;->> things that I maintain, instead of came with FreeBSD. Putting > ;->> everything in /usr is one such solution. /opt is another (but > having > ;->> everything have it's own hierarchy pretty much sucks). > ;->Try maintaining a lab of 40-80 identical machines. Then imagine > ;->distributing /usr/local and /usr/X11R6 via NFS. Then you only > have to > ;->install the package on one machine to install it everywhere. That > ;->doesn't work when installed under /usr. Are you enlightened yet? > > Yes, but not about what you hoped. Back when I did that kind of > thing, > I did a better job than that. Let's see - off the top of my head, > I've network mounted /usr (the Linux solution to this problem), /opt > (the Solaris solution), and used rdist, rsync and perforce to do the > distribution. > > The bottom line is that taking the name people have standardized on > for installing *local* packages and installing system-provided > packages there is a bad thing(TM). None of the solutions I used > suffered from that flaw. Umm, if the name /usr/local disturbs you greatly, then set PREFIX in /etc/make.conf to whatever name you do like (/usr/global), etc. Also, ports are not system-provided packages, they are 3rd party software. I also don't see how installing 3rd party software directly under /usr so that it is mixed up with system-provided software (what is in /usr that comes with OS, i.e. not 3rd party software) is easier to administer. Then you are having to distribute a lot more and increasing your network load, espeically your NFS load. To each his own I suppose. Personally, I think sticking everything under the sun in /usr/bin is not organized. > -- http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jobaldwi/ PGP Key: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jobaldwi/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Nov 12 9:15:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pike.cdrom.com (pike.cdrom.com [204.216.28.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3ABD15057 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 09:15:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cshumway@cdrom.com) Received: from localhost (cshumway@localhost) by pike.cdrom.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA11359; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 09:15:52 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 09:15:52 -0800 (PST) From: Christopher Shumway To: mleczo Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ldconfig finding libraries, but ld is not. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 14 Nov 1999, mleczo wrote: > Helo > Im new to all of this > But got one question > I cant compile eggdrop on my FreeBSD 2.2.8 > When it comes to linking i got an error > ld: -ltcl no match > > Wheres the problem > PLease help me solve this This would have been better suited for -questions, but here we go. You need to instal the TCL8 port to compile eggdrop. See /usr/ports/lang/tcl81/ or install the package from /stand/sysinstall. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Nov 12 9:31:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from guru.phone.net (guru.phone.net [216.240.39.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8366E14CC8 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 09:30:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mwm@phone.net) Received: (qmail 27744 invoked by uid 100); 12 Nov 1999 17:30:53 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14380.20173.800799.137562@guru.phone.net> Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 09:30:53 -0800 (PST) To: John Baldwin Cc: Mike Meyer , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ldconfig finding libraries, but ld is not. In-Reply-To: <199911121710.MAA06277@server.baldwin.cx> References: <14379.17630.340446.163663@guru.phone.net> <199911121710.MAA06277@server.baldwin.cx> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 3) "Acadia" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG John Baldwin writes: ;->> The bottom line is that taking the name people have standardized on ;->> for installing *local* packages and installing system-provided ;->> packages there is a bad thing(TM). None of the solutions I used ;->> suffered from that flaw. ;->Umm, if the name /usr/local disturbs you greatly, then set PREFIX in ;->/etc/make.conf to whatever name you do like (/usr/global), etc. That's the same headache, only in a different place. The traffic on the ports list suggests that support for PREFIX isn't universal as well. Come to think of it - does the OS install let me specify what PREFIX should be when installing packages? ;->I ;->also don't see how installing 3rd party software directly under /usr so ;->that it is mixed up with system-provided software (what is in /usr that ;->comes with OS, i.e. not 3rd party software) is easier to administer. Ports and packages *do* come with the OS. When I boot from the FreeBSD floppy, it figures some stuff out about my system, ask me about some stuff - including letting me choose what packages I want to install. It then copies a bunch of stuff over the network and installs it. Some of that sofware goes in /usr; some goes in /usr/local - they *all* come from the net under the control of the installation software. ;->Then you are having to distribute a lot more and increasing your ;->network load, espeically your NFS load. To each his own I suppose. ;->Personally, I think sticking everything under the sun in /usr/bin is ;->not organized. I don't know - "executables are in /usr/bin" sounds like an organization to me :-). That's what started this. My problem is that the OS install puts software in a place that is traditionally reserved for software that didn't come with the distribution. This means you either get to deal with the headaches associated with missing software that was installed as part of the OS install and software that you added, or you get headaches when you forget to deal with it when installing softare that didn't come with the distribution (the solution of creating an area that *should* be named /usr/local, but can't), or you get headaches when you forget to deal with it when installing the packages that come with FreeBSD. ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 09:34:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mleczo@tupac.portal.v.pl) Received: from localhost (mleczo@localhost) by tupac.portal.v.pl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA03363 for ; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 19:35:56 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mleczo@tupac.portal.v.pl) Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 19:35:56 +0100 (CET) From: mleczo To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ldconfig finding libraries, but ld is not. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 14 Nov 1999, mleczo wrote: > Helo > Im new to all of this > But got one question > I cant compile eggdrop on my FreeBSD 2.2.8 > When it comes to linking i got an error > ld: -ltcl no match > > Wheres the problem > PLease help me solve this > > bye > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > One more time casue this thiung very important to me To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Nov 12 9:58:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from scientia.demon.co.uk (scientia.demon.co.uk [212.228.14.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D25614D97 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 09:58:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ben@scientia.demon.co.uk) Received: from strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk ([192.168.0.4] ident=exim) by scientia.demon.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.092 #1) id 11mJUY-0000Me-00; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 16:24:02 +0000 Received: (from ben) by strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk (Exim 3.092 #1) id 11mJUY-0000Yn-00; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 16:24:02 +0000 Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 16:24:02 +0000 From: Ben Smithurst To: Thomas David Rivers Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Solution to my 3.3-RELEASE panics! Message-ID: <19991112162402.D2052@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk> References: <199911112356.SAA00665@lakes.dignus.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <199911112356.SAA00665@lakes.dignus.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thomas David Rivers wrote: > I'll have to attribute this to the "nut behind > the wheel." Apparently, I must have done a > config with some option (likely DDB) on and not > done a clean build... (i.e. didn't do a `make clean; make') You shouldn't need to make clean... make depend; make should be enough. -- Ben Smithurst | PGP: 0x99392F7D ben@scientia.demon.co.uk | key available from keyservers and | ben+pgp@scientia.demon.co.uk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Nov 12 10: 2:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.243.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3C5814F94 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 10:01:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA27907 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 19:01:57 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from olli) Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 19:01:57 +0100 (CET) From: Oliver Fromme Message-Id: <199911121801.TAA27907@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Mounting an ATAPI-CDROM ? Organization: Administration Heim 3 Reply-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 RZTUC(3) PL2] Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Gregory Bond wrote in list.freebsd-stable: > > wdc0 ist the IDE controller, not the CD-ROM drive. > > Look for acd0 (ATAPI CD-ROM drive) in your boot messages. > > Type this command: dmesg | grep acd > > Depending on the vintage of his system, the ATAPI CD driver and corresponding > /dev/ entry have been called wcd0 and acd0 at various times, even in the life > of 3.x. That's true. However, this is the -stable mailing list, and he didn't mention the version of his OS at all, so I assumed that he has a "current" -stable, so to speak. ;-) Regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, Leibnizstr. 18/61, 38678 Clausthal, Germany (Info: finger userinfo:olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) "In jedem Stück Kohle wartet ein Diamant auf seine Geburt" (Terry Pratchett) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Nov 12 10:18:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from amanda.swlct.sthames.nhs.uk (hide14.nhs.uk [194.6.81.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA2EF15176 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 10:18:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from greg@swlct.sthames.nhs.uk) Received: from greg.swlct.sthames.nhs.uk (qmh-00553.qmpgmc.ac.uk [10.1.20.82]) by amanda.swlct.sthames.nhs.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA49601 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 18:08:21 GMT Message-ID: <00ea01bf2d3b$2a0738e0$5214010a@swlct.sthames.nhs.uk> From: "Greg Quinlan" To: Subject: Re: Slapd (LDAP) Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 18:24:31 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG To answer my own question: In /usr/ports/net/ldap/work/ldap-3.3/doc/guides/guide.pdf (administrators guide) There is everything you'd ever need.....for sladp Thanks anyway to those who tried to help. Greg My original question was: > Is any one using the slapd (ldap) services, if so can they point me to a > good reference site, as all the man pages refer to the Ldap Administrators > Guide :( To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Nov 12 12:12:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from banana.dhs.org (cr691909-a.ym1.on.wave.home.com [24.112.57.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B149114F94 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 12:12:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mercutio@banana.dhs.org) Received: from PENTIUM (pentium [10.10.10.2]) by banana.dhs.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA21628 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 15:06:44 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mercutio@banana.dhs.org) Message-ID: <000101bf2d4b$3da0aac0$020a0a0a@PENTIUM> From: "Mercutio" To: Subject: subscribe Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 15:19:35 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Nov 12 12:25:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from androcles.com (androcles.com [204.57.240.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E666014D47 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 12:25:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from alex@androcles.com) Received: (from dhh@localhost) by androcles.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA07428; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 12:24:54 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <19991111144938.B69565@pinky.plambert.net> Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 12:24:53 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: dhh@androcles.com From: "Duane H. Hesser" To: "Paul M . Lambert" , Mike Meyer Subject: Re: ldconfig finding libraries, but ld is not. Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike and Paul I agree with both of you (at least conceptually), regarding installation locations of software (the topic here has wandered a bit from the original Subject: line). I think your positions are not so far apart, differing only in detail. It is certainly (in my view) useful to keep optional software separate from the base system. Personally, I find it convenient (especially at upgrade time) to keep separate 1) the 'base' system 2) the 'ports' system 3) locally ported/generated software By default, the ports system combines 2) and 3), but is flexible enough to allow them to be separated rather easily (for the most part) simply by adjusting the variables LOCALBASE and X11BASE in /etc/make.conf. I have read most of this thread, and have been surprised that no one mentioned this. It is in the forefront of my mind because I spent some time this summer in a 'major upgrade' of my system, with a fresh install of FreeBSD 3.2 stable *and* RedHat Linux 6.0 on a new 9 gig ultra-wide Atlas drive (for a while there, I had a 'quad boot' system). The Linux system is just one big mass (on one filesystem); there is no 'base' system, just a kernel, an init, and everything else, all mixed together. On the FreeBSD system, though, I spent some time re-designing the filesystem layout (since it's possible to *have* a filesystem layout) to support the above separation. On the 'old' FreeBSD system, ports and locally installed software were intermixed so that it was difficult to know which was which. The switch to elf made it seem reasonable to re-install everything in any case. Here is what I've done. It may not appeal to you, but the point is that the ports system is flexible enough to let each of us do our own thing. Those who see no advantage to separating optional software ported 'elsewhere' and home-grown ports or sources need do nothing. The rest of us only need to do a couple of quick edits of make.conf and the ports supfile, and maybe a couple of 'mkdirs'. I've gone so far as to make separate filesystems for 'ports' and 'local'. /dev/da0s1d 3181934 1488777 1438603 51% /usr/local /dev/da0s1f 2087950 959140 961774 50% /usr/ports The result is the usual: /usr/local/bin /usr/local/lib /usr/local/include /usr/local/src ...etc.. where I put stuff I have personally mangled. LOCALBASE is set to '/usr/ports' (the default is '/usr/local') so there is also: /usr/ports/bin /usr/ports/lib /usr/ports/include /usr/ports/src/ports ...etc... (the latter path really should be just '/usr/ports/src', but cvsup is rather insistent about appending 'ports' to the supfile 'prefix', so what the heck) I have also installed the latest XFree86 distribution, which I also wish to keep separate. /dev/da1s2e 514202 329113 143953 70% /usr/X11R6 I set X11BASE to '/usr/ports/X11R6', so that X11 ports are also kept separate from the 'stock' distribution (combined with all other ports). THE RESULTS of this have been encouraging, so far (I am not quite finished yet, working at it in fits and starts, with a lot of the old stuff still around; the framework is in place though, and the next upgrade (circa 2039 :-) will be easier). Most non-X11 ports honor LOCALBASE just fine; works like a charm. A few still have 'local' hardwired in, but after many years of hand-porting USENET distributions, etc. I'm not about to complain about an occasional need to edit a PREFIX in a makefile. The ports maintainers have more than once indicated a willingness to fix any reported problems of this nature, but there have been surprisingly few of these. I will go through my notes one day and send them what I've managed to record; until then, no complaints from *here*. The X11 situation is not quite as rosy; there have been quite a few which needed hand patching. The problem seems to be a lot of Imakefiles with BINDIR, INCROOT, MANPATH, and USRLIBDIR hard-coded to use /usr/local. Even so, hand-patching these has not been much of a burden. I should note that I also provide a /usr/local/X11R6 dirctory, although the only things there so far are some TrueType fonts. On the *original* topic of this thread (having to do with compiler/linker paths) it *would* be nice if configure scripts (Imakefiles) took account of the possiblity that LOCALBASE (X11BASE) might not be /usr/local, and were prepared to look both places, and add the necessary '-I' and '-L' flags. I would add my voice to any movement which might arise aimed at changing the default LOCALBASE for ports away from '/usr/local', although I do not find it strange in the least that the developers of the ports system chose that prefix in the beginning. The '/usr/local' convention arose rather strongly wayyyyyy back in the mid eighties and has gained status in many minds as a (de facto) 'standard'. I would argue, though, that the extraordinarily useful 'ports' system is a slightly different animal than locally-generated or locally-ported software beasties, that it is useful to keep the two separate, and that 'ports' should therfore be ordained with its own carefully selected pathname prefix. Given the current (slightly imperfect) flexibility of the ports system, though, I am not motivated to carry picket signs, organize rallys--anything like that. I just think it would be nice. -------------- Duane H. Hesser dhh@androcles.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Nov 12 12:40:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp2.vnet.net (smtp2.vnet.net [166.82.1.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A17415084 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 12:40:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rivers@dignus.com) Received: from dignus.com (ponds.vnet.net [166.82.177.48]) by smtp2.vnet.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA12003; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 15:40:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from lakes.dignus.com (lakes.dignus.com [10.0.0.3]) by dignus.com (8.9.2/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA06435; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 15:40:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from rivers@localhost) by lakes.dignus.com (8.9.3/8.6.9) id PAA05304; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 15:40:00 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 15:40:00 -0500 (EST) From: Thomas David Rivers Message-Id: <199911122040.PAA05304@lakes.dignus.com> To: ben@scientia.demon.co.uk, rivers@dignus.com Subject: Re: Solution to my 3.3-RELEASE panics! Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <19991112162402.D2052@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Thomas David Rivers wrote: > > > I'll have to attribute this to the "nut behind > > the wheel." Apparently, I must have done a > > config with some option (likely DDB) on and not > > done a clean build... (i.e. didn't do a `make clean; make') > > You shouldn't need to make clean... make depend; make should be enough. > > -- > Ben Smithurst | PGP: 0x99392F7D > ben@scientia.demon.co.uk | key available from keyservers and > | ben+pgp@scientia.demon.co.uk > I'm not sure. I'm _guessing_ this is what happened. config a brand kernel without options DDB. do a make - boot and run that kernel - all is fine. then, change the config file and add options DDB. Then, do make depend; make (which I believe is what I did.) But - some of the files that need to know that DDB is now defined are not recompiled (I'm guessing, I haven't checked on this.) - Dave Rivers - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Nov 12 16:42:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3BD914C2A for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 16:42:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA69948; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 16:42:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 16:42:02 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Mike Meyer Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ldconfig finding libraries, but ld is not. Message-ID: <19991112164202.B69871@relay.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: <14378.28246.28493.440833@guru.phone.net> <199911112213.RAA34417@server.baldwin.cx> <14379.17630.340446.163663@guru.phone.net> <19991111144938.B69565@pinky.plambert.net> <14379.19900.963634.387520@guru.phone.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre1i In-Reply-To: <14379.19900.963634.387520@guru.phone.net> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Nov 11, 1999 at 03:14:04PM -0800, Mike Meyer wrote: > ;->It belongs in /usr/local. > > I don't agree. Things being maintainted and supported locally belong > in /usr/local. Ports and packages come on the distribution, and you go > back to the same channels for support as you do for core parts of that > distribution. I'll have to agree with you here. I think it was a grave mistake for FreeBSD to install packages into /usr/local/. We should have used /usr/pkg/ as NetBSD did. As GCC maintainer, I will not add /usr/local/lib to the list of automatically looked places in the base compiler. For one it isn't PREFIX clean. [ Please remember one can set PREFIX=/usr/pkg and build the Ports Collection ] -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.com) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Nov 12 16:45: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60F6015072 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 16:45:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA69971; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 16:44:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 16:44:34 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Mike Meyer Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ldconfig finding libraries, but ld is not. Message-ID: <19991112164434.C69871@relay.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: <14378.28246.28493.440833@guru.phone.net> <199911112213.RAA34417@server.baldwin.cx> <14379.17630.340446.163663@guru.phone.net> <19991111144938.B69565@pinky.plambert.net> <14379.28319.927705.778764@guru.phone.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre1i In-Reply-To: <14379.28319.927705.778764@guru.phone.net> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Nov 11, 1999 at 05:34:23PM -0800, Mike Meyer wrote: > Except, of course, that /usr/local/lib *does* get special treatment! > It's listed in ldconfig_paths (and the aout subdir > ldconfig_paths_aout), along with /usr/X11R6/lib & > /usr/lib/compat. None of those are part of the OS, though all are part > of the distribution. > This seems a tad inconsistent. We make sure that the person installing Yes, but ldconfig_paths is in the rc.conf configuration file. -L paths are hardcoded and compiled into GCC and friends. The user can change ldconfig_paths as they need to. There isn't an easy way for them to change the auto -L list. -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.com) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Nov 12 16:48:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 396E214C2A for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 16:48:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA70001; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 16:47:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 16:47:59 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: "Duane H. Hesser" Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ldconfig finding libraries, but ld is not. Message-ID: <19991112164759.D69871@relay.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: <19991111144938.B69565@pinky.plambert.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre1i In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Nov 12, 1999 at 12:24:53PM -0800, Duane H. Hesser wrote: > A few still have 'local' hardwired in, but after many years of ... > The X11 situation is not quite as rosy; there have been quite a > few which needed hand patching. The problem seems to be a lot of > Imakefiles with BINDIR, INCROOT, MANPATH, and USRLIBDIR hard-coded > to use /usr/local. Even so, hand-patching these has not been much > of a burden. Please send a PR on these. We want to make everything PREFIX clean. -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.com) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Nov 12 16:53:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D728150A4 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 16:53:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA70056; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 16:52:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 16:52:41 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Mike Meyer Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ldconfig finding libraries, but ld is not. Message-ID: <19991112165241.E69871@relay.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: <14379.17630.340446.163663@guru.phone.net> <199911121710.MAA06277@server.baldwin.cx> <14380.20173.800799.137562@guru.phone.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre1i In-Reply-To: <14380.20173.800799.137562@guru.phone.net> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Nov 12, 1999 at 09:30:53AM -0800, Mike Meyer wrote: > That's the same headache, only in a different place. The traffic on the > ports list suggests that support for PREFIX isn't universal as well. In what way? > Come to think of it - does the OS install let me specify what PREFIX > should be when installing packages? Yes, ``pkg_add -p /usr/foo''. The problem of course is that the value of PREFIX is burned into many packages. You'd be sucessful if you build the ports yourself, setting "PREFIX=/foo" (or even PREFIX=/) > Ports and packages *do* come with the OS. When I boot from the FreeBSD They do come with the OS, but the code is not maintained by FreeBSD developers. -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.com) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Nov 12 17:14:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from guru.phone.net (guru.phone.net [216.240.39.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 04F3415150 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 17:13:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mwm@phone.net) Received: (qmail 40670 invoked by uid 100); 13 Nov 1999 01:13:43 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14380.47942.986074.382586@guru.phone.net> Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 17:13:42 -0800 (PST) To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ldconfig finding libraries, but ld is not. In-Reply-To: <19991112165241.E69871@relay.nuxi.com> References: <14379.17630.340446.163663@guru.phone.net> <199911121710.MAA06277@server.baldwin.cx> <14380.20173.800799.137562@guru.phone.net> <19991112165241.E69871@relay.nuxi.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 3) "Acadia" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG David O'Brien writes: ;->On Fri, Nov 12, 1999 at 09:30:53AM -0800, Mike Meyer wrote: ;->> That's the same headache, only in a different place. The traffic on the ;->> ports list suggests that support for PREFIX isn't universal as well. ;->In what way? Just - well, you noted it yourself right here: ;->> Come to think of it - does the OS install let me specify what PREFIX ;->> should be when installing packages? ;->Yes, ``pkg_add -p /usr/foo''. The problem of course is that the value of ;->PREFIX is burned into many packages. You'd be sucessful if you build the ;->ports yourself, setting "PREFIX=/foo" (or even PREFIX=/) But that's the wrong question. Part of the install process includes selecting packages to load. That's all nice & user-friendly & GUI-ish. The question is: can I set PREFIX for packages that are installed at that point? For that matter, if those packages have references to things in /usr/include and I do "pkg_add -p /usr/pkg" - what happens to those references? ;->> Ports and packages *do* come with the OS. When I boot from the FreeBSD ;->They do come with the OS, but the code is not maintained by FreeBSD ;->developers. Right. That's a good reason for them not to go in /usr. That they come with the OS is a good reason for them not to go in /usr/local. ; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 04:20:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from zhang_huabin@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 86315 invoked by uid 0); 13 Nov 1999 12:20:42 -0000 Message-ID: <19991113122042.86314.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 202.134.89.193 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 04:20:42 PST X-Originating-IP: [202.134.89.193] From: "Herbert Chang" To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: How to disable sendmail on autoboot? Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 20:20:42 CST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG When FreeBSD boot, default it will start sendmail. How to disable this? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Nov 13 4:23: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from abc.123.org (123.org [195.244.241.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC32614E1D for ; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 04:22:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from k@abc.123.org) Received: (from k@localhost) by abc.123.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA82520; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 13:22:47 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from k) Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 13:22:47 +0100 From: Kai Voigt To: Herbert Chang Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to disable sendmail on autoboot? Message-ID: <19991113132247.E54046@abc.123.org> References: <19991113122042.86314.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <19991113122042.86314.qmail@hotmail.com> Organization: 123.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Herbert Chang wrote: > When FreeBSD boot, default it will start sendmail. > How to disable this? % grep sendmail /etc/defaults/rc.conf sendmail_enable="YES" # Run the sendmail daemon (or NO). sendmail_flags="-bd -q30m" # Flags to sendmail (if enabled) So, just add sendmail_enable="NO" # Run the sendmail daemon (or NO). to your /etc/rc.conf file. Kai -- kai voigt hamburger chaussee 36 24113 kiel 04 31 - 22 19 98 69 http://k.123.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Nov 13 7:21:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from goshen.rutgers.edu (goshen.rutgers.edu [165.230.180.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F363714CAB for ; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 07:21:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from damascus@eden.rutgers.edu) Received: from damascus.dorm.rutgers.edu (damascus@damascus.dorm.rutgers.edu [165.230.0.68]) by goshen.rutgers.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA26612; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 10:21:13 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 10:21:09 -0500 (EST) From: Carroll Kong X-Sender: damascus@damascus.dorm.rutgers.edu To: Herbert Chang Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to disable sendmail on autoboot? In-Reply-To: <19991113122042.86314.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 13 Nov 1999, Herbert Chang wrote: > When FreeBSD boot, default it will start sendmail. > How to disable this? > Add... in /etc/rc.conf sendmail_enable="NO" it is case sensitive, please make a note of that. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Nov 13 10:38:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay4.smtp.psi.net (relay4.smtp.psi.net [38.9.52.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BEC214FCD for ; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 10:38:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from keichii@mail.utexas.edu) Received: from [38.192.209.90] (helo=keichii) by relay4.smtp.psi.net with smtp (Exim 1.90 #1) for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG id 11mi4D-0001g3-00; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 13:38:30 -0500 Message-ID: <000f01bf2e06$3de89f40$5ad1c026@keichii> From: "¶³¹q¤§­· Michael Wu" To: Subject: Installworld fails repeatedly Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 12:38:12 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi guys, I was rebuilding a box completely and did a clean install. [format hd then FTPed] I installed 3.3-release successfully. Thereafter, I immediately installed cvsup-bin via /stand/sysinstall and supped 3.3-stable. I edited /etc/make.conf to remove -O2 optimization and to have option NOSENDMAIL I do make -j4 buildworld, which completes fine and happy. When I do make -j4 installworld, I keep getting the following error: This problem is repeatable and I have done several complete reinstalls. The box is an old pentium100mhz, brand new 64mb ram and brand new 2gb hd The same configuration has been running 3.3-stable before, I just wanted to make it more secure. I would appreciate any help that comes my way. Thank you /usr/share/man/man1/red.1.gz -> /usr/share/man/man1/ed.1.gz /bin/red -> /bin/ed ===> bin/expr install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 expr /bin install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 expr.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1 ===> bin/hostname install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 hostname /bin install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 hostname.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1 ===> bin/kill install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 kill /bin install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 kill.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1 ===> bin/ln install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 ln /bin install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 ln.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1 install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 symlink.7.gz /usr/share/man/man7 ===> bin/ls install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 ls /bin install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 ls.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1 ===> bin/mkdir install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 mkdir /bin install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 mkdir.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1 ===> bin/mv install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 mv /bin install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 mv.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1 ===> bin/pax install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 pax /bin install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 pax.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1 ===> bin/ps install -c -s -o root -g kmem -m 2555 ps /bin install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 ps.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1 ===> bin/pwd install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 pwd /bin install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 pwd.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1 ===> bin/rcp install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 4555 -fschg rcp /bin install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 rcp.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1 ===> bin/rm install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 rm /bin install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 rm.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1 ===> bin/rmdir install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 rmdir /bin install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 rmdir.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1 ===> bin/sh install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 sh /bin Could not execute shell *** Error code 1 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error Michael Chin-Yuan Wu ¹]¤M¶Q¤@³Î¡M¹Ú·Q¸u¨}¹Ï¡C Strive for the very best, the outcome is not important. FreeBSD - Service Pack FFFF For NT / Ultimate Patch for Linux -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Nov 13 13:13:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from guru.phone.net (guru.phone.net [216.240.39.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C84FB151B6 for ; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 13:13:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mwm@phone.net) Received: (qmail 58256 invoked by uid 100); 13 Nov 1999 21:13:32 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14381.54396.208737.822334@guru.phone.net> Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 13:13:32 -0800 (PST) To: Kai Voigt Cc: Herbert Chang , stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to disable sendmail on autoboot? In-Reply-To: <19991113132247.E54046@abc.123.org> References: <19991113122042.86314.qmail@hotmail.com> <19991113132247.E54046@abc.123.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 3) "Acadia" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kai Voigt writes: ;->Herbert Chang wrote: ;->> When FreeBSD boot, default it will start sendmail. ;->> How to disable this? ;->% grep sendmail /etc/defaults/rc.conf ;->sendmail_enable="YES" # Run the sendmail daemon (or NO). ;->sendmail_flags="-bd -q30m" # Flags to sendmail (if enabled) ;->So, just add ;->sendmail_enable="NO" # Run the sendmail daemon (or NO). ;->to your /etc/rc.conf file. You might also consider adding NO_SENDMAIL=true to /etc/make.conf. This will prevent system builds from installing sendmail at all. ; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 15:04:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mmuir@es.co.nz) Received: from es.co.nz (p23-max5.dun.ihug.co.nz [209.77.156.23]) by smtp1.ihug.co.nz (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id MAA12050; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 12:03:52 +1300 Message-ID: <382DEE4E.F19DFB93@es.co.nz> Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 12:03:42 +1300 From: Mike Muir X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=B6=B3=B9q=A4=A7=AD=B7?= Michael Wu Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Installworld fails repeatedly References: <000f01bf2e06$3de89f40$5ad1c026@keichii> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "¶³¹q¤§­· Michael Wu" wrote: > When I do make -j4 installworld, I keep getting > the following error: > This problem is repeatable and I have done several > complete reinstalls. > The box is an old pentium100mhz, brand new 64mb > ram and brand new 2gb hd > The same configuration has been running 3.3-stable > before, I just wanted to make it more secure. > I would appreciate any help that comes my way. > Thank you Drop the -j4 and you wont get: > ===> bin/sh > install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 sh /bin > Could not execute shell > *** Error code 1 > 1 error > *** Error code 2 > 1 error > *** Error code 2 > 1 error > *** Error code 2 > 1 error > *** Error code 2 > 1 error > *** Error code 2 > 1 error > *** Error code 2 > 1 error To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Nov 13 18:41:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cutter.wantabe.com (cutter.wantabe.com [209.16.8.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBCDF1521F for ; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 18:41:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jeffrl@wantabe.com) Received: from localhost (jeffrl@localhost) by cutter.wantabe.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA05753 for ; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 20:41:45 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from jeffrl@wantabe.com) Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 20:41:45 -0600 (CST) From: "Jeffrey J. Libman" To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: please ignore this unforgiveable waste of bandwidth testing new mail server! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG please ignore this unforgiveable waste of bandwidth testing new mail server! jeff | |\ +------------------------------+ Jeffrey J. 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